[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[15:08] <outwork> hi
[15:09] <ankurash> exit
[15:13] <kosson> yes
[15:13] <Jamal> yep :D
[15:13] <kosson> from Romania!
[15:13] <kosson> Cheers!
[15:13] <Ullas> Hello from Kerala, India
[15:14] <hakan> heey
[15:15] <Jamal> what is your role in this hangout ?
[15:16] <Jamal> (messages get there with delay )
[15:17] <hotice> Hello from Bangalore, India
[15:18] <Jamal> Will Unity ever become as flexible as KDE ? I mean, sure, we have 3rd party config software, but would be nice to do this native
[15:19] <Jamal> stop teasing me with ubuntu phone :))
[15:19] <andreas3115> is this live or recorded ?
[15:21] <goryzk> hello łś
[15:21] <kiko> great
[15:21] <goryzk> ;]
[15:21] <andreas3115> ok it's recorded
[15:22] <Ullas> @ <andreas3115> its live streaming
[15:24] <hotice> affirmative
[15:24] <HoOn> ooohhhh
[15:25] <kosson> How open it will be the new system? I ask because I sense that the terminal producers will raise some IP issues?!
[15:25] <andreas3115> are u sure? because i can pause them
[15:25]  * reborn is here
[15:28] <romski> hi
[15:28] <reborn> hi
[15:29] <jaaay> hey
[15:29] <djjimbo> hola
[15:29] <romski> what time will it start? gmt+8
[15:29] <faximeno> hola!
[15:29] <reborn> cool
[15:29] <djjimbo> como estan
[15:29] <djjimbo> que hay de nuevo en ubuntu
[15:29] <Oussama> it will start in 30 minutes
[15:30] <faximeno> hola ubunteros!
[15:30] <romski> thanks Oussama. so it will be 12mn gmt+8.. ill be back later.
[15:31] <Oussama> romski: ;)
[15:31] <HoOn> I cant't wait for the UBuntu OS images to be released! :)
[15:31] <faximeno> alguien ha probado los smartphone con ubuntu?
[15:31] <duncan> hi
[15:31] <djjimbo> NO YO TODAVIA NO
[15:32] <reborn> yeeah it will be great
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[15:32] <reborn> i wanna be a developer for it to..
[15:33] <prudhvi_> hi
[15:35] <HoOn> I hope the UBuntu phone is not going to be too locked down. Unlocked bootloaders please!
[15:41] <Tung> do you open source code of ubuntu for phone?
[15:42] <reborn> yeah it will b opensource
[15:47] <couguar> What's about user rights management? And does the mobile Version uses same caches?
[15:51] <Andrei15193> hello
[15:52] <Andrei15193> how's it going?
[15:52] <ubuntu_knight> hi all :)
[15:53] <farouk225> hi everybody
[15:53] <MrDzikuPL> Hello everybody :)
[15:53] <redhatpro> hi
[15:54] <websiddu> ll
[15:55] <farouk225> welcome
[15:55] <buoncri> hi to all
[15:55] <fabryjavier> hi
[15:55] <sgtech> hi
[15:55] <eni992> hi :D
[15:55] <sgtech> am from ethiopia
[15:55] <chris_> heho
[15:56] <hiyo> so what is this all about?
[15:56] <Kiguan_Portugal> Hello Guys
[15:56] <Graf_Zahl> hello
[15:56] <Tuxkalle> hi
[15:56] <farouk225> we have just to listen??
[15:57] <icocoy> chown
[15:57] <fabryjavier> Has the hangout started?
[15:57] <farouk225> so what should we do ??
[15:57] <Generator> hi
[15:57] <aoam> hi
[15:58] <hippyjake> sup All
[15:58] <Generator> i just joined
[15:58] <dholbach> some of you might have to reload http://ubuntuonair.com/ (just make sure it says "Leann Ogasawara" in the video title)
[15:58] <Generator> can i ask what is the topic of the discussion?"
[15:59] <Dreeg> hi all
[15:59] <factor> Hello
[15:59] <bk201> Hey folks :)
[16:00] <John__> ok
[16:00] <Alinwebdev> test123
[16:00] <dholbach> test test :)
[16:00] <sgtech> hey
[16:00] <dholbach> and we're live
[16:00] <sgtech> hajfkgh 328 2 u89fusdhjfhn 8923riouoDHJ()3u9003u; "?Kj89032oij3ur 2r23r
[16:00] <sgtech> whats going on?
[16:00] <sgtech> hi]
[16:01] <aoam_> why doesnt work video?
[16:01] <darren__> hi
[16:01] <dholbach> can you hear me all right?
[16:01] <fraggle> wont work for me eithere
[16:01] <hippyjake> "this live event will begin in a few moments"
[16:02] <GuidoPallemans_> hippyjake: go to the youtube page for anyone seeing "this live event will begin in a few moments"
[16:02] <tufan> HEllo
[16:02] <ubunturk> hello
[16:02] <GuidoPallemans_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AQvOIExkCaw
[16:02] <aoam__> yea its working after reload
[16:02] <tufan> hello
[16:02] <hippyjake> oh it came up!
[16:02] <tufan> Ubuntu return of Gnome 3 :(
[16:02] <ho_diggy> hey
[16:02] <edit> hello
[16:02] <fraggle> you can watch it on youtube, works
[16:02] <Guest55470> ssup
[16:03] <pasjrwoctx> I see nothing
[16:03] <pata_> hi... cheers from Mexico
[16:03] <Finn_> Hi
[16:03] <NONE_OF_THEM> Hello everybody!
[16:03] <fraggle> watch on youtube
[16:03] <pasjrwoctx> has it started?
[16:04] <designbybeck> yes pasjrwoctx
[16:04] <pasjrwoctx> :( nothing
[16:04] <designbybeck> pasjrwoctx:  http://ubuntuonair.com/
[16:04] <pata_> is there any way we you can go back to gnome or the old menu on future Ubuntu editions??
[16:04] <aoam__> You should filter that join spam guys
[16:04] <Kiguan_Portugal> Can we install ubuntu in our android phone, our we have to buy one phone with ubuntu pre-instaled??
[16:04] <dholbach> please prefix your questions with QUESTION: if you have any
[16:05] <Tasha> They will release Images to install on phones.
[16:05] <Chris_McL> QUESTION#
[16:05] <fraggle> what kind of phones?
[16:05] <Link512> smartphones
[16:05] <Tasha> They havent released that yet, of course smart phones.
[16:06] <nubbix> So what is the deal about Unity and why is this so important to the Ubuntu dev team?
[16:06] <designbybeck> Screenshots or Video on that flipping orientation??
[16:06] <ho_diggy> money, duh
[16:06] <factor> Will be looking for a phone , would like a phone with GPL userspace i.e. ubuntu phone , are they available yet?
[16:06] <Tuxkalle> #QUESTION What kernel does 13.04 get  shipped with?
[16:06] <sunta> the picture in the backround is crooked
[16:07] <Tuxkalle> #QUESTION If i want to start with some bug testing of Kenels where to start reading?
[16:07] <Leo_> is there anyway to turn of entrance and exit to the channel?
[16:07] <PrimeCl0ver> QUESTION: I understand that the Galaxy Nexus GSM will be one of the first phones with the public release available. Is there any chance that we will see it on the CDMA versions of the Galaxy Nexus (Toro/Toroplus)?
[16:07] <Tuxkalle> #QUESTIONIs it possible to get your autograph on a paper shipped to Norway?
[16:07] <Kiguan_Portugal> QUESTION: Can we install ubuntu in our android phone, our we have to buy one phone with ubuntu pre-instaled??
[16:07] <localp> Leo_: yes on most clients
[16:07] <Tuxkalle> #QUESTIONDo you know about "The Ada Initiative"
[16:07] <Chris_McL> QUESTION: When will Ubuntu Phone be available? Also, will it be available for the Samsung Galaxy SIII.
[16:08] <Tung> #QUESTION: When will you public source code and image of Ubuntu for Phone?
[16:08] <stranger_> @Leo_ yes. Top-Left corner of chat widget. Options.
[16:08] <Spirinox> Hi !
[16:08] <netnot> When is Ubuntu for phone available to public ?
[16:08] <Leo_> OH  TY  :)
[16:09] <ba7a7chy> is this live ? or id it finished
[16:09] <hippyjake> just starting
[16:09] <ba7a7chy> cool
[16:09] <nubbix> Will 13.10 be the next LTS version?
[16:09] <sunta> nubbix, 14.04
[16:09] <nubbix> thx
[16:10] <r4f3> Could you please turn off the light behind you?
[16:10] <hey> stream is working on ubuntuonair now, but now audio
[16:10] <sunta> indeed leann. pls turn of the light
[16:10] <cielak> apart from connection problems: is it just me, or is the volume super-low?
[16:10] <MrDevStaff> Hey
[16:10] <Spirinox_> QUESTION: Is Jono Bacon dead?
[16:10] <wicked> yo
[16:10] <hey> *no audio
[16:10] <hippyjake> haha^
[16:10] <nubbix> straem and audio works fine
[16:10] <r4f3> sound good
[16:11] <ba7a7chy> damn, screen isnt big for both image and chat :(
[16:11] <John121> I got audio without any issues.
[16:11] <Phillip25> for me volume is very low
[16:11] <MrDevStaff> So when will ubuntu 13 be released?
[16:11] <Spirinox_> Sound ok, but put it louder please!
[16:11] <cielak> must be something on my side, then, thanks
[16:11] <matt275> audio working here
[16:11] <stulle_> ba7a7 try F11
[16:11] <MrDevStaff> The official build, not rc builds
[16:11] <MrDevStaff> Audio works for me too
[16:11] <hey> had audio, now I don't
[16:11] <ba7a7chy> f11 did the trick, thanks :)
[16:11] <Spirinox_> Put the volume louder please
[16:11] <r4f3> Guys should i buy a Mac?
[16:11] <thedoctor_> audio works for me but it's stuttery and echoy
[16:11] <Jragon> Audio works fine for me
[16:11] <Euro> How can i hide the join and Quit messages with pidgin?
[16:11] <NONE_OF_THEM_> QUESTION: Have you guys responded to the invitation by XDA Developers in regards of working together?
[16:11] <Spirinox_> STOP LEAVING HE CAN'T SEE OUR MESSAGE
[16:11] <MrDevStaff> r4f3, no
[16:11] <reisi007_> Audio is working here... Hi everyone ;9
[16:11] <matt275> what happened to the director guy ?
[16:12] <nubbix> turn off the light source in the back
[16:12] <JackLo_> Greetings
[16:12] <MrDevStaff> XDA-Developers rocks
[16:12] <r4f3> MrDevStaff: why not?
[16:12] <NONE_OF_THEM_> QUESTION: Has Google responded in any way to Ubuntu for Phones yet?
[16:12] <Phillip25> it would be nice if you turn your volume louder
[16:12] <Rory> Hey
[16:12] <Spirinox_> LOUDER
[16:12] <MrDevStaff> R4f3: their computers is not worth the price
[16:12] <pungi-man> hey everyone!
[16:12] <Spirinox_> QUESTION: Is Jono Bacon dead?
[16:13] <r4f3> MrDevStaff: i agree, but they are great machines for work
[16:13] <wicked> no
[16:13] <Rory> When is ubuntu phone being released?
[16:13] <nubbix> nerds will
[16:13] <MrDevStaff> Is there any news about the Ubuntu 13? Because I would want to know when it will be released to the public in not test builds.
[16:13] <ba7a7chy> +1 on ubuntu phone reales date
[16:13] <jono> Spirinox_, I hope now
[16:14] <reisi007_> What's the different between the Ubuntu for phone kernel and Android'S?
[16:14] <hey> bo_obsUbuntu: hey
[16:14] <Spirinox_> Oh, hi jono
[16:14] <Tung> #QUESTION: When will you public source code and image of Ubuntu for Phone?
[16:14] <r4f3> Leann, do you work on a Macbook?
[16:14] <matt275> is there any development going on for better network/wifi "drivers"
[16:14] <r4f3> Is it worth?
[16:14] <wicked> yeah  when is  ubuntu phone releasing?
[16:14] <jono> Spirinox_, :-)
[16:14] <nubbix> Are there any new modifications to the git tree in 13.04?
[16:14] <Rory> QUESTION: When is ubuntu phone being released?
[16:14] <MrDevStaff> #Question When will the Ubuntu 13 be released or when will it be finished atleast?
[16:14] <Phillip25> ubuntu phone will realese in late Feb
[16:15] <rej0hn> QUESTION: will i need to root my phone to use ubuntu-mobile or will there be phones for sale with ubuntu-mobile preinstalled?
[16:15] <Spirinox_> jono : it has been a long time since last time i watch your stream, so i was worried
[16:15] <GuidoPallemans> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPhone
[16:15] <ba7a7chy> yey!
[16:15]  * nubbix Are there any new modifications to the git tree in 13.04?
[16:16] <jono> Spirinox_, last one was last week
[16:16] <jono> will be another tomorrow :-)
[16:16] <matt275> question about progress  of wifi/network card drivers
[16:16] <Spirinox_> jono : i'll try to be there then :p
[16:16] <ba7a7chy> What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:16] <Nishantsingh> HI
[16:16] <jono> Spirinox_, :-)
[16:16] <Spirinox_> jono : are you still on live stream? or another one?
[16:17] <jono> Spirinox_, I do it on ubuntuonair too
[16:17] <talw> ubuntu phone will support East Asian language
[16:17] <ba7a7chy> What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:17] <clivend> hello everyyone
[16:17] <matt275> i installed ubuntu on 3 laptops and had lots of problems gettign the network/wifi cards working
[16:17] <clivend> what is the topic today?
[16:17] <Supercell> At how many WPM do you type ?
[16:17] <rej0hn> QUESTION: are there any chances to have nvidia-optimus support out-of-the-box in ubuntu 13.04
[16:17] <ba7a7chy> What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:18] <MrDevStaff> #Question Will ubuntu phone be able to run a kernel on already existing devices like Xperia U or so with some kernel modifications?
[16:18] <poitroae> hi
[16:18] <John__> hi
[16:18] <jragon> hi
[16:18] <poitroae> what exactly is he doing right now?
[16:18] <nubbix> Are there any new modifications to the git tree in 13.04?
[16:18] <Tasha> QUESTION: will questions about gaming be answered here?
[16:18] <sunta> thx
[16:18] <r4f3> thank you Leann
[16:18] <jragon> It looks good.
[16:18] <spobat> :}
[16:18] <r4f3> You use MAC?
[16:18] <nubbix> Thanks for the light
[16:18] <factor> QUESTION: What about EFI booting,
[16:18] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:19] <Nishantsingh> My organisation is using UBUNTU 12.04 machine (DELL) hardware..... and our WIFI woes are growing day by day....
[16:19] <spobat> r4f3, did he answer the question already? (I just accidientally closed the browser) :o
[16:19] <designbybeck> Nishantsingh:  what are the woes?
[16:19] <Nishantsingh> we are using this on 8000+machines
[16:19] <Nishantsingh> frequent disconnection
[16:19] <ZoSo_un> good luck !
[16:20] <GuidoPallemans> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:20] <Nishantsingh> and have a tough time reconnecting
[16:20] <Tasha> QUESTION: how do you stream your desktop? I can not find a program to do so for ubuntu.. Webcamstudio is gone now.
[16:20] <Guest21623> what' your view about the brain fuck scheduler vs the stock scheduer
[16:20] <lagos_> What has the kernel team done to help improve gaming on Ubuntu?
[16:20] <designbybeck> Nishantsingh:  what are the routers and connection types you are using t on the routers? I had my personal one disconnect a lot, then changed its connection type and it works fine now
[16:20] <Spirinox_> jono : i'll bookmark this adress then, thx :p
[16:20] <cielak> raring release schedule link, for your convenience: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[16:21] <matt275> also puleaudio problems here.. especially with skype
[16:21] <reisi007_> Where is the link to the hangout?
[16:21] <spobat> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[16:21] <MrDevStaff> #Question Will ubuntu for phones be easy to port to Android based devices?
[16:21] <Nishantsingh> Mode is infra
[16:21] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:21] <spobat> MrDevStaff, does this make sense? there isn't a touch/small screen optimized UI, right?
[16:22] <cielak> It is generally a good idea for phone-specyfic questions to try #ubuntu-phone
[16:22] <Nishantsingh> WPA & WPA2
[16:22] <MrDevStaff> spobat, there is, Ubuntu for phones is based on real ubuntu but with a UI for phones
[16:22] <Phillip25> in late Feb
[16:22] <spobat> k
[16:22] <ba7a7chy> that was suprising...
[16:22] <John__> aouuuuu
[16:22] <jragon> Oh hia
[16:22] <Spirinox_> QUESTION: Do you communicate with the Linux Organisation sometimes or not at all?
[16:23] <Tasha> lol that was kinda loud and unexpected xD
[16:23] <ImAuser> oh yeah
[16:23] <stulle_> yep indeed she is much louder than he
[16:23] <Spartan_> when is comming the phone out?
[16:23] <nubbix> Will we ever see a version without Unity from Ubuntu?
[16:23] <jragon> Leann: can you turn your mic down a little?
[16:23] <Phillip25> for me to she is ver loud
[16:23] <maxduvet> very loud for me too
[16:23] <jarlath> QUESTION: Daniel, could you turn up your microphone? I can hardly hear you. Leanne is crystal clear.
[16:24] <markusb> Your micro is too loud
[16:24] <ba7a7chy> +1 take your microphone lower
[16:24] <mosu24> why doesnt cannonical contact micro pc manufacturers like Rikomagic to make a tv dongle powered by ubuntu?
[16:24] <nubbix> +1 on the mic down a nodge
[16:25] <factor> QUESTION: How is Ubuntu dealing with Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI)issues?
[16:25] <PrimeCl0ver> QUESTION: Following the programming language question, coudl PyQT with QML be used in place of the traditional QML?
[16:25] <Phillip25> +1 mic
[16:25] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:25] <Tasha> +1 for ba7a7chy's question
[16:25] <factor> Why cant I compile my 386 16mhz computer to run Linux now :P
[16:25] <jragon> +1 ba7a7chy
[16:26] <nubbix> Why cannot Unity be optional and not the default setup?
[16:26] <aoam> you guys has different volume, can you change it? :D
[16:26] <rej0hn> +1 nubbix
[16:26] <mosu24> +1 nubbix
[16:27] <jragon> +1 nubbix
[16:28] <rej0hn> unity was the 1st thing i got rid of ;)
[16:28] <Phillip25> +1 nubbix
[16:28] <mosu24> lol
[16:28] <romski> just got back
[16:28] <hippyjake> if you dont like unity why not use a diff iso
[16:28] <apurvtwr> is the meeting over?
[16:28] <stulle_> npoe
[16:28] <stulle_> still running
[16:28] <searchfgold> Oh no, where did the video go?
[16:28] <jragon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQvOIExkCaw#!
[16:28] <tension83> hello evry one
[16:29] <jragon> It's working for me.
[16:29] <nubbix> What are they talking about, I zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
[16:29] <spobat> i really disliked unity at the beginning as it was so different from gnome. Taking a closer look you recognize that it's actually pretty similar and also a *very* bit like OS from the UI and usage
[16:29] <spobat> like Mac OS X*
[16:29] <spobat> .. and that is awesome :pp
[16:29] <Euro> and what would be better for phones?
[16:29] <Euro> gnome2? :D
[16:29] <spobat> none?
[16:29] <spobat> android? :D
[16:30] <huydotnet> android
[16:30] <huydotnet> who need ubuntu on android phone =.=
[16:30] <ba7a7chy> ....we dont care about managment talk about kernel shizlle stuff
[16:30] <Euro> i mean the desktop not the system ;)
[16:30]  * jragon yawns.
[16:31] <stulle_> i think it will take time until ubuntu phone can compete with android in ui questions
[16:31] <buddyshashank> hi
[16:31] <jragon> hi
[16:31] <markusb> i hate the UI of Anroid!
[16:31] <markusb> *android
[16:31] <huydotnet> what happend if i replace android with ubuntu on my phoen?
[16:31] <jragon> +1 markusb
[16:31] <JoseeAntonioR> if you guys have any questions, make sure to prefix them with the word QUESTION:
[16:31] <factor> How about using libhybris to get and run android apps on desktop and mobile devices.
[16:31] <mosu24> QUESTION  why doesnt cannonical contact micro pc manufacturers like Rikomagic to make a tv dongle powered by ubuntu?
[16:31] <spobat> markusb, sure?
[16:31] <spobat> even the 4.2 one?
[16:31] <spobat> I love it.
[16:31] <Guest21623> #question what' your view about the brain fuck scheduler vs the stock scheduer in linux kernel
[16:32] <spobat> the plain google Android 4.2 one.
[16:32] <jragon> QUESTION: can Leann turn her mic down or can you turn yours up.
[16:32] <markusb> have you seen the windows phone UI?
[16:32] <spobat> without any samsung or htc crap is really good
[16:32] <ba7a7chy> +1 jragon
[16:33] <jragon> The blackberry ui is surprisingly nice.
[16:33] <Euro> +1 jragon
[16:33] <markusb> ^^
[16:33] <factor> On the Ubuntu phone , will I have the same access to libraries apt get remove cache etc..
[16:33] <mosu24> question - are you reading the questions?
[16:33] <spobat> jragon, the train already went on. and rim is not on it. it's too late now imo.
[16:33] <nubbix> Where did the "Q&A" go?
[16:33] <jragon> I know. I really hope someone makes some port to make BB phones Andriod.
[16:33] <spobat>  #ubuntu-on-air-q
[16:34] <markusb> in future there will be: Android, WP, iOS and Ubuntu
[16:34] <huydotnet> QUESTION: what are u guys talking about now ???
[16:34] <markusb> ubuntu is used bye programmers and linux fans
[16:34] <stulle_> +1 huydotnet
[16:34] <JoseeAntonioR> nubbix: this is not exactly a Q&A, but we will try to get to your questions
[16:34] <spobat> markusb, I even believe WP has no chance
[16:34] <markusb> really?
[16:35] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: what about chaingin X11 with the new wayland ?
[16:35] <rej0hn> QUESTION: will the bug with the sd-card readers of dell laptops ever get fixed? :D i always have to echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan to get it mount sd-cards ;)
[16:35] <spobat> markusb, I am not sure. They have a lot of money to push it.
[16:35] <designbybeck> ba7a7chy: I like that question
[16:35] <markusb> i have a windows phone 7
[16:35] <matt275> window 8 is horribe, now is the time to push ubuntu.
[16:35] <spobat> They started too late as well.
[16:35] <spobat> thus they missed the critical point.
[16:35] <spobat> ..when everything went to android.
[16:35] <huydotnet> WP started too late ? i dont think so
[16:36] <mosu24> +1 matt but without unity
[16:36] <markusb> that's true
[16:36] <buddyshashank> QUESTION:  Whether kernel bux fixeses are relase in pathches of current kernel too???
[16:36] <spobat> huydotnet, funny. they both started too early and too late
[16:36] <markusb> but i love the design of WP
[16:36] <spobat> too early: windows mobile: failed dramatically
[16:36] <markusb> and the hardware is fine too
[16:36] <spobat> too late: wp
[16:36] <huydotnet> haha
[16:36] <markusb> true story, spobat :(
[16:37] <spobat> imo, MS is a operating systems company - they shouldn't try to put their "brilliance" into every branche..
[16:37] <markusb> microsoft have a tick-tock: fine -> bad -> fine -> bad ^^
[16:37] <nubbix> Why is Ubuntu moving closer to a commercial oriented platform, is this true to the Linux community?
[16:37] <markusb> i think windows phone is a brilliant OS
[16:37] <markusb> but it was to late. that's right
[16:37] <rej0hn> good question, nubbix
[16:38] <huydotnet> it will be brilliant if it can run desktop app on phone :|
[16:38] <jragon> +1 nubbix
[16:38] <Phillip25> QUESTION:  how long will this session be ?
[16:38] <spobat> markusb, do you mean the user interface?
[16:38] <huydotnet> @nubbix: open source product with commercial quality, that's cool
[16:38] <spobat> because I'm not sure of the entire architecture yet
[16:39] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: what about chaingin X11 with the new wayland ? <-----!!!
[16:39] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: What about the 3.8 kernel updates for gaming performance improvments ???
[16:39] <spobat> my friend has one too, he upgraded a few weeks ago (I don't know the exact version) and whilst upgrading to a newer OS version his phone rebooted ~5 times.
[16:39] <markusb> if i compare android to WP7, my windows phone 7 is very very fast
[16:39] <markusb> in loading, switching, etc
[16:39] <factor> Question: What is the best program to use while working on the kernel/debug/etc.
[16:39] <spobat> this, in my opinion, reveals of massive internal difficulties and lacks.
[16:40] <spobat> linux (e.g. android) in comparison takes exactly 1 reboot at a maximum
[16:40] <markusb> but that's the problem of android
[16:40] <kunk> I have heard some people saying that Canonical does not give back to the community by submitting patches to upstream projects. How true is this? How much does Ubuntu/Canonical participate in upstream kernel development?
[16:40] <spobat> markusb, that is interesting. Per se, I think the .net framework really is faster than the java vm.
[16:41] <spobat> but what astounded me was that angry birds at the beginning was very flickery on wp, only.
[16:41] <nubbix> I feel like the Unity was forced on me as an Ubuntu user, now I really concider Linux Mint...
[16:41] <spobat> ..but then again, it might just be *bad programming* of rovio. I'm not sure about that.
[16:41] <markusb> if i think of my WP; it has a 1GHz Singlecore. if i think of other Androids, they have dual and quadcores
[16:42] <huydotnet> don't compare OS speed by its additional products like games or blah blah
[16:42] <markusb> so you can't match it..
[16:42] <matt275> #nubbix try Lubuntu
[16:42] <spobat> markusb, what exactly did you compare?
[16:42] <zolly> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/01/ubuntu-phone-download-will-be-ready-late-february
[16:42] <markusb> the OS performance
[16:42] <spobat> yes, how?
[16:42] <markusb> like switching programs, switching menues
[16:42] <huydotnet> what about iOS guys?
[16:43] <beatpoet> I can barely hear the guy
[16:43] <beatpoet> SPEAK UP!
[16:43] <spobat> how do you switch between apps @ wp?
[16:43] <factor> Question: What file system is Ubuntu going to use, being much is moving to SSD.
[16:43] <spobat> but i hardly think it's going quicker than on either ios or android, they have very advanced multi-apps-techniques.
[16:43] <rcnc> low audio levels -- please get closer to MIC
[16:44] <nubbix> #Question Why does Leann ask the question, why are we here?
[16:44] <markusb> there a three keys: if you hold the left one, you can switch between opened apps
[16:44] <spobat> ios: slide left, right, up with 5 fingers | Android: press "task manager button."
[16:44] <dholbach> sorry, I can't change any of the mic settings :-(
[16:44] <spobat> markusb, since which version?
[16:44] <spobat> since the beginning?
[16:44] <markusb> no
[16:45] <markusb> at beginning they allowed running only one app (best thing for performance)
[16:45] <huydotnet> ios also started like that
[16:45] <markusb> since 7.5 you can open 7 apps. if you switch, the other one get freezed and dont use CPU
[16:45] <matt275> i dont think the regular user cares about kernel release
[16:45] <beatpoet> can't hear the guy
[16:45] <spobat> I don't see why they made this arbitrary 7-apps limit.
[16:45] <matt275> usability is more of a concern
[16:45] <huydotnet> they cares about performance
[16:46] <markusb> yes
[16:46] <spobat> if there's not enough ram, get some of the frozen apps out, otherwise keep them in.
[16:46] <HoOn> He'susing a crappy Apple headset! No wonder I can't hear him!
[16:46] <beatpoet> Compare Ubuntu Mobile to Android from a developer's perspective.
[16:46] <markusb> but there is no sense to have more opened apps
[16:46] <matt275> i would have to say  most users dont even know what a kernel is
[16:46] <huydotnet> +1 beatpoer
[16:46] <rej0hn> what is a kernel :O ?
[16:46] <rej0hn> ;)
[16:47] <spobat> markusb, but switching then is expectedly quicker.
[16:47] <matt275> i guess this is for developers tho
[16:47] <beatpoet> mumble mumble
[16:47] <markusb> yes
[16:47] <nubbix> Wonder if any Ubuntu employee dear to talk about Unity?????
[16:47] <beatpoet> Ubuntu Mobile VS. Android
[16:47] <Guest21623> #question what's your view about the brain fuck scheduler vs the stock scheduer in linux kernel
[16:48] <markusb> but it was a good decision
[16:48] <huydotnet> as a developer, i want to know, how much i will get if i sell my apps on "ubuntu mobile marketplace", and compare it to Google Play?
[16:48] <factor> kernelnewbies.org is good as well
[16:48] <chrisjlee> What's your normal day like?
[16:49] <dholbach> that's #ubuntu-kernel
[16:49] <spobat> #QUESTION Ubuntu-Phone VS Android
[16:49] <ba7a7chy> QUESTION: what about chaingin X11 with the new wayland ? <-----!!!
[16:49] <Guest21623> #question will ubuntu re support gnome session fall back.
[16:49] <huydotnet> #question this is a question
[16:49] <chrisjlee> #question What is your normal day like Leann?
[16:50] <huydotnet> #question who is this guy? why i am here?
[16:50] <nubbix> Of course they welcome new kernel testers, free labour....
[16:51] <stulle_> ..and that's waht open source 's sense is
[16:51] <matt275> windows stopped booting on ly laptop..  thats why it's got ubuntu on it now... lol
[16:51] <matt275> my*
[16:51] <spobat> markusb, do you actively use ubuntu on your `main` machine?
[16:51] <markusb> i'm out now..
[16:51] <beatpoet> #have you worked on the mobile kernel?
[16:51] <markusb> okay
[16:51] <markusb> i wait :)
[16:51] <Guest15698> Hello!
[16:51] <markusb> yes. my laptop has a ubuntu-partition and a windows partition
[16:52] <huydotnet> i use windows on my main machine
[16:52] <buddyshashank> QUESTION:  Whether 3D acceleration is supported on letest kernel 3.5
[16:52] <markusb> i use win for programming .Net (visual studio'), and some software
[16:52] <spobat> huydotnet = markusb ?
[16:52] <spobat> k
[16:52] <stulle_> buddyshank. 3d acceleration is quite well supprted in ubntu for years
[16:52] <markusb> no
[16:53] <markusb> on ubuntu i programm other things
[16:53] <markusb> and do other things
[16:53] <shiva_> hi
[16:53] <spobat> hm..
[16:53] <shiva_> Spobat may i know what is going on?
[16:53] <spobat> I'm also currently using w7, but intend to switch to macos :o
[16:53] <spobat> just for the unix-likeness
[16:54] <matt275> I was going to dual boot..  but i found software replacement for just about everything i needed..  except for Photoshop..  so i didn't bother putting windows back on it
[16:54] <buddyshashank> stulle   i was trying today on 3.2.35 but didn't got sucess, may be i am lacking
[16:54] <markusb> i will never use mac ^^
[16:54] <shiva_> okay
[16:54] <Euro> next time please sync your mic level...
[16:54] <markusb> they are too expensive ^^
[16:54] <shiva_> how can we interact with this video?
[16:54] <beatpoet> *****dude turn up your mic
[16:54] <spobat> (iosdev and the *great* hardware [retina, touchpad])
[16:54] <rej0hn> lol it was filed since 10.04
[16:54] <spobat> [macbook pro]
[16:54] <rej0hn> *11.04 i mean
[16:54] <stulle_> buddyshashank what graphics card?
[16:54] <rej0hn> by a bunch of ppl
[16:54] <vRBa> can't hear what is he talking
[16:54] <markusb> retina.. okay.. but it's tooo expensive
[16:54] <spobat> it's very portable, thin and i need to travel alot.. but let's get back to ubuntu :P
[16:54] <beatpoet> *************************tell the guy to turn up his mic**************************
[16:55] <Christaeon> hey
[16:55] <markusb> but our discussion is nice :)
[16:55] <matt275> issuses with wifi cards
[16:55] <markusb> and the masters don't read this ^^
[16:55] <nubbix> Unity UNITY?
[16:55] <beatpoet> I like to get whipped by giant fish heads while eating cold gravel
[16:55] <Guest15698> anyone here have experience with Ubuntu joining in a Active Directory?
[16:56] <markusb> but now i leave you :)
[16:56] <rej0hn> Bug #703180 incomlpelete since 10.10 ;)
[16:56] <Christaeon> I recently ditched Ubuntu for mint, don't like it and goin back to Ubuntu today
[16:56] <rej0hn> <- sd-card reader
[16:56] <markusb> have a nice day :)
[16:56] <shiva_> hi
[16:56] <beatpoet> This guy has the quietest voice in the world
[16:57] <dholbach> any more question?
[16:57] <dholbach> beatpoet, sorry - I seem to have mic problems
[16:57] <dholbach> tried to fix it
[16:57] <beatpoet> Can you ask about Mobile development? I'm a mobile developer. lol @mic
[16:58] <GuidoPallemans> QUESTION Leann what kernal is the phone built on?
[16:58] <matt275> lol
[16:58] <Christaeon> now your talking, I'd like to know more about the mobile Ubuntu
[16:58] <GuidoPallemans> thanks
[16:58] <kunk> How does the Android kernel differ from upstream?
[16:59] <Spartan_> so... ubuntu phone until april 2014?
[16:59] <matt275> can i put ubuntu os on an Iphone ?
[16:59] <factor> Does thephone  use BIONC libc or GNU libc
[16:59] <matt275> lol
[16:59] <buddyshashank> stulle i am using nvidia, but correct version i am missing as i am not having system right now
[16:59] <factor> Really good, thanks.
[16:59] <thanassis> some laptops have over heating whats going on?
[17:00] <Christaeon> meh
[17:00] <Guest86747> hi
[17:00] <rej0hn> i hope they keep the logs...
[17:00] <rej0hn> ;)
[17:00] <Guest86747> hi
[17:01] <stulle_> budyshashank i can't tell as i'm using radeon, sorry. but it's working fine for me
[17:01] <matt275> i'd like to get involved in ubuntuTV..
[17:01] <Guest86747> how to isntall vpn hotspotshield on ubuntu?
[17:01] <rej0hn> ty
[17:01] <rej0hn> bye
[17:01] <buddyshashank> bye
[17:01] <matt275> later
[17:01] <dholbach> thanks everyone
[17:02] <stulle_> welcome
[17:05] <kirbylife> hola
[17:06] <kirbylife> hola
[17:06] <kirbylife> hola
[17:07] <kirbylife> hola
[17:07] <kirbylife> hola
[17:07] <JoseeAntonioR> kirbylife: ya no estamos al aire
[17:08] <kirbylife> okay
[17:44] <anal> hi
[17:54] <mibofra> hi :)
[19:30] <monti> what is the best programming language you advise us to learning for developing application under ubuntu ?
[19:45] <sanonline4u> hi
[19:45] <sanonline4u> when is it starting?
[19:50] <sanonline4u> Is this live? Or I am seeing a recorded one?
[19:57] <sanonline4u> Plz can anyone respond?
[19:57] <sanonline4u> is this a recording?
[20:10] <cielak> sanonline4u: this stream has finished few hours ago
[20:10] <cielak> what you see is a recording
[22:36] <tinti> nice
[22:46] <vijay> what is this hangout agenda
[22:47] <vijay> is ubuntu kernel a open source ?