[00:01] <maheanuu> IaOra Everyone, I am having a snit trying to set up the laptop on wireless, I have been using Cat5 all these years and just received my Asus TF700 Tablet, I want to network the tablet and the computer in a wireless home network , the tablet sees the Router an NetGear13 and as long as I am cat5, the notebook works fine but it will not recognize the router even with the wireless on the notebook turned on, could use some help in walking th
[00:01] <maheanuu> ru the setup for the notebook
[00:03] <Ramsrambo> I am on Ubuntu 12.10 on a pentium 4 desktop I did a clean install and I keep getting this error "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error"
[00:06] <Ramsrambo> anyone here pl. respond
[00:06] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, I see you
[00:07] <maheanuu> I am not sure on the 12.10 errors, as I have not gotten any higher than 12.04
[00:07] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : respond to my query Pl.
[00:07] <washuu_de> What kind of questions may I ask here?
[00:08] <Ramsrambo> anyone else
[00:08] <IboS> hello
[00:09] <washuu_de> how to avoid the new platform
[00:09] <IboS> i'm looking for someone called gerd knorr
[00:09] <IboS> he created the webcamd command on linux
[00:09] <sammuchann> Im new to ubuntu, and I'm confsed should I get antivirus or not is there even antivirus software?
[00:10] <ukbeast> I have a sandybridge driver and I get http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z447/Aaron_Holmes1/Screenshotfrom2013-01-22000723_zpsbafdf6db.png graphic artefacts
[00:10] <k1l_> !antivirus | sammuchann
[00:10] <washuu_de> when updating to oneiric
[00:11] <k1l_> !notunity | washuu_de
[00:11] <blkadder> sammuchann: ClamAV seems to be the most commonly used solution.
[00:11] <Ramsrambo> How do I add swap to my clean install now ?
[00:11] <ukbeast> http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z447/Aaron_Holmes1/Screenshotfrom2013-01-22000723_zpsbafdf6db.png has anyone else gotten this
[00:12] <k1l_> IboS: how does that related to ubuntu support?
[00:12] <maheanuu_> I have been trying to learn linux/ubuntu for over a year now, and am the only one on the island that uses it, besides i only deal in english and here it is either Tahitian or French, and my tech ability there is worse than it is in english
[00:12] <washuu_de> !nounity
[00:12] <IboS> k1l_: where to look for then ?
[00:12] <IboS> how to contact the autor of a programm ?
[00:13] <k1l_> IboS: look in the manpage
[00:13] <ukbeast> so unity is causing these glitches?
[00:13] <maheanuu_> test
[00:13] <Ramsrambo> How do I add swap to my clean install now ? on ubuntu 12.10
[00:14] <ukbeast> So I switch to gnome3?
[00:14] <washuu_de> Should I install  gnome-shell after the upgrade. Is that what ubotto wants to tell me?
[00:14] <escott> !gnome3 | ukbeast
[00:15] <escott> Ramsrambo, if you dont have space for a partition you can make a swapfile
[00:15] <k1l_> washuu_de: do you know what you want in the first place?
[00:16] <washuu_de> I want to upgrade without having Unity as platform
[00:16] <k1l_> washuu_de: the bots message tells you to go with gnome-panel if you want a gnome2 lookalike
[00:16] <washuu_de> Hi k1l...
[00:16] <maheanuu_> I am not finding Network Manager anywhere in 12.04, but going Cat5 I work fine thru the router, and my Asus TF700 wireless hooks up perfectly, I am trying to get the both together on wireless so that I can use the notebook when I go interisle to Papeete and Moorea
[00:16] <Ramsrambo> escott: pl guide me creating it now bcos free is showing nothing
[00:16] <ukbeast> thanks, I'll try that
[00:17] <modem> who needs networkmanager
[00:17]  * modem uses wpa_supplicant all the way.
[00:17] <maheanuu_> washu
[00:17] <escott> Ramsrambo, find the section "Four-step Process to Add Swap File"
[00:17] <escott> Ramsrambo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[00:17] <washuu_de> Will that work after the upgrade. I just install the gnome package ?
[00:18] <maheanuu_> washuu_de,  I removed the Unity asap as I hated it, and went back to the classic
[00:19] <maheanuu_> modem, I cannot find anyway to go wireless on the notebook, but it worked before I did my last upgrade
[00:19] <washuu_de> @mahenuu So you know how to :-)
[00:20] <washuu_de> @maheanuu So you know how to :-)
[00:20] <maheanuu_> I fumbled my way through it, by using Google and asking lots and lots of questions
[00:20] <maheanuu_> washuu_de, that above was for you
[00:21] <maheanuu_> I am still learning, not as fast as before, at the ripe ol age of 75 my synapses are slowing down a bit
[00:22] <washuu_de> I must have missed it. Paste it to chat, please.
[00:22] <maheanuu_> washuu_de, Google "Removing Unity and returning to Gnome and bob's yer uncle
[00:23] <wjtaylor> what package installs the xchat indicator in gnome?
[00:23] <maheanuu_> I have spent the better part of today trying to set up home networking between my new tablet and my old Toshiba Laptop...
[00:23] <xeta> new user, new install, trying to troubleshoot bluetooth dev, a scribbler2 robot connecting to an azio doggle...
[00:24] <xeta> bluetooth manager connects and pairs...python shell wont init rfcomm
[00:24] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, do an "apt-get install xchat and you should have no problems that is in the terminal
[00:24] <econdudeawesome> Howdy. I'm trying to open a FoxPro CDX file -- i think it's a metadata file for a .DBF file?-- any one know of a valid program that works? The encoding seems odd when I use head/cat or python to view
[00:25] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, do not use the quotation mark
[00:25] <wjtaylor> maheanuu_: I did, but it doesn't minimize to the tray in gnome...
[00:25] <xeta> got it to work once but cant replicate it
[00:26] <maximo> Msg nickserv identify Maximo
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> ouch...
[00:26] <maheanuu_> Mine doesn't either, I have to go to Applications to open it
[00:27] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, the above post is for you
[00:27] <pwf> has anyone seen hulu struggle with HD video?
[00:27] <pwf> youtube 1080p is smooth as butter
[00:27] <Scunizi> This is unusual.. I've got an mp4 video from a camcorder that plays in every other video player that I have EXCEPT VLC.  It did a week ago and now doesn't. I figure I messed something up but I can't find the possible switch.  Both video and audio are gone but it looks like it's playing. Any suggestions welcome
[00:27] <pwf> hulu can barely do 'medium'
[00:27] <wjtaylor> the joke is I figured this out before, but forgot to write it down....
[00:28] <escott> pwf, hulu is flash so thats not very surprising
[00:28] <maheanuu_> wjtaylor, I have the same prob, but at the age of 75 I have an excuse
[00:30] <washuu_de> a.jaehrig@cablemail.de
[00:30] <pwf> escott: youtube is flash too
[00:30] <pwf> it works great
[00:30] <washuu_de> damn... wrong
[00:30] <maheanuu_> Anyone available to help me walk thru a wireless homenetwork setup on a Toshiba laptop with Ubuntu 12.04 installed and a Asus TF700 Running fine on wireless
[00:30] <escott> pwf, are you sure you are using flash based youtube not HTML5?
[00:31] <washuu_de> g'night
[00:31] <pwf> html5 youtube has hardware acceleration? hmmm
[00:31] <Ramsrambo> escott : Thanks for that link I was able to add the swap and free is showing the actual available free swap mem now
[00:31] <pwf> no it's flash, i see the flash menu when i do right click > settings
[00:31]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[00:32] <escott> pwf, in that case the videos must be encoded in such a way as to be easier to decode
[00:32] <pwf> it does say playback is accelerated, but not decoding
[00:32] <pwf> how can i enable hardware decoding? is it just hardware dependent?
[00:32] <pwf> i need to upgrage the CPU in my htpc anyways
[00:32] <pwf> i guess that's how i'll solve it
[00:33] <maximo> question: how do I check my present version?
[00:33] <tekkbuzz> anyone know the command to find the Not-Installed pkg. containing some file?
[00:33] <quinn_> Hey everyone, Ubuntu is a little slow on my machine, and it seems to be graphics related
[00:34] <Ramsrambo> escott: Just one more Q I keep getting this "sorry ubuntu 12.10 has experienced an internal error" for most apps that I access
[00:34] <quinn_> Do you think it would be ok to install the nonfree driver?
[00:34] <maheanuu> bak, dunno where I went, but sure left here for outer space I guess
[00:34] <escott> Ramsrambo, i dont know what you expect us to say about that
[00:35] <escott> Ramsrambo, i've got a light that comes on in my car every time i drive it. what should I do?
[00:35] <Ramsrambo> escott: Is it bcos my desktop is too old for this version of ubuntu
[00:36] <maheanuu> My major problem is trying to put together the questions so most of you can understand what I am trying to say
[00:36] <Joschii> moin
[00:36] <Joschii> hi
[00:37] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, do you mean you get the error when you try to open  VLC, or read a file  or what?
[00:38] <maximo> question: need to find out my version of ubuntu so to upgrade it?
[00:38] <Ramsrambo> escott : Yes, video, eveloution, all the utilities ....
[00:38] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo,  escott, has left
[00:39] <maheanuu> Have you tried to do an automatic upgrade?
[00:39] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : yeah! sorry I took him for the reply
[00:39] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, I know I get lost in here a lot also
[00:39] <quinn_> with laptop-mode-tools, is it install and forget or do you have to do something else?
[00:40] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : Nope I did a clean install
[00:40] <quinn_> !info laptop-mode-tools
[00:40] <fbdystang> Hi, I have a ubuntu 11.04 server that I would like to manage remotely. What is the best and most effective way to do this?
[00:41] <quinn_> Probably SSH
[00:41] <maheanuu> A clean install does not upgrade the drivers all the time and like myself, after I did the last upgrade, I lost all my passwords and a lot more and have just about caught up again
[00:41] <k1l_> fbdystang: you should consider upgrading the server first. 11.04 is out of support
[00:42] <fbdystang> I am running an open ACS server that requires an old postgresql version, so updates don't work
[00:42] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : what can I do now ? to get rid of this problem
[00:43] <maheanuu> Where I am, no one uses Linux, and if they did they would not help, knowledge is power here, and you do NOT let that get away from you...   Bein an old navy chiefm, I believe that the more I work with others the more we both learn and the better off we all are, but that is just me
[00:44] <fbdystang> Does SSH provide a GUI or just command line? If GUI, please point in direction.
[00:44] <quinn_> I believe there are GUIs for SSH
[00:44] <quinn_> I wouldn't know for sure though
[00:44] <Ramsrambo> maheanuu : I appreciate your view towards solving a problem
[00:48] <vifanq> How to configure a wifi interface? I had it as option during installation, but I selected to use ethernet
[00:49] <maheanuu> test
[00:50] <maheanuu> Ramsrambo, try this
[00:51] <apophisss> hi, looking for some direction... i set up a friend with 12.04 last night at a location with no network... it's a stock 12.04 32 bit install, i'd like to burn some packages (vlc, plugins for video, etc) on dvd to transport it to the computer and update
[00:51] <apophisss> i'm wondering if there is an easy way to download the packages as well as their dependancies?
[00:51] <maheanuu> vifanq, I am trying to find out the same thing, but no answers so far
[00:52] <quinn_> I can't adjust the brightness on my laptop, it just stays the same
[00:52] <quinn_> How do I change it?
[00:52] <maheanuu> I have a tablet working fine on wifim, but the notebook running ubuntu doesn't even see the router unless I am cat 5 to it
[00:54] <FunkyELF> If I want to use proprietary drivers should I go with NVidia or AMD?
[00:54] <maheanuu> I do not, apparently have any drivers for wifi in Ubuntu 12.04.....   I did before I upgraded last week, and now that I have the tablet, I want to network the 2 and also gain the ability to work together, but no joy
[00:54] <FunkyELF> which has the best experience on Ubuntu?
[00:55] <maheanuu> FunkyELF, what are you running
[00:55] <quinn_> NVIDIA by far
[00:55] <quinn_> Intel's the best in my experience though
[00:55] <apophisss> hi, looking for some direction... i set up a friend with 12.04 last night at a location with no network... it's a stock 12.04 32 bit install, i'd like to burn some packages (vlc, plugins for video, etc) on dvd to transport it to the computer and update
[00:55] <apophisss> i'm wondering if there is an easy way to download the packages as well as their dependancies?
[00:55] <quinn_> I'm on an AMD computer and I hate it
[00:55] <mojtaba> Hi,
[00:55] <tripelb> Help, I got a bad install and got stuck in grub recovery. Can't get to windows. Maybe I did something wrong in partition, I gave it one partition, figured swap and whatever would be carved out of the 20G. Right now I want to get the copy of lubuntu I downloaded off my nexus 7 and I need windows for that. Then the future....
[00:56] <FunkyELF> maheanuu, what do you mean?  I have a 1090T 6 core processor w/ 8GB RAM and a video card that I'm likely to return within 30 days
[00:56] <mojtaba> Does anybody know a step by step tutorial to configure openvpn?
[00:56] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to linux
[00:56] <mojtaba> If anybody knows movie, that is better.
[00:56] <mojtaba> :)
[00:56] <wjtaylor_> I found the way to add the xchat to the systray in gnome if anyone cares....
[00:57] <mojtaba> I want to configure openvpn on my computer in office and use to connect to it from windows and android.
[00:57] <mojtaba> Because actually I am going to go to the trip.
[00:57] <tripelb> mojtaba: did you try this http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[00:57] <PoolShark_> hi hi
[00:57] <mojtaba> I want to pass the filtering.
[00:58] <FunkyELF> quinn_, what about video acceleration?  I have a Radeon HD 7700 that I got last week.  I've installed Ubuntu 2 or 3 times, Linux Mint 4 or 5 times with different desktop environments trying to get good performance out of this card.  Just today with the newly released (yesterday) 13.1 fglrx drivers I finally have okay performance, but I was looking at switching to NVidia
[00:58] <mojtaba> Any simpler step by step documentation or movie is highly appreciated.
[00:58] <tripelb> Welcome mojtaba
[00:58] <mojtaba> tripelb: Thank you very much
[00:58] <maheanuu> FunkyELF, I am running an ASUS TF700 with 64 Gigs and a 32Gig mini Sd and it is fantastic, running wireless, but I am stuck on Cat5 on this Toshiba and I cannot find anyway to set up any wireless at all
[00:58] <tripelb> !ask | mojtaba
[00:59] <mojtaba> ubottu: ok, thanks
[00:59] <mojtaba> tripelb: what is !ask | mojtaba
[00:59] <mojtaba> ?
[01:00] <tripelb>  wjtaylor I care, after I vet it installed that is. Groan. Tell me. OK tomPM too.
[01:00] <maheanuu> Without wireless, at present, I cannot network the tablet and the laptop,
[01:00] <memand> !ubottu | mojtaba
[01:00] <mojtaba> ubottu: ok
[01:00] <mojtaba> Thank you
[01:01] <tripelb>  wjtaylor_  (correctnick) I care, after I vet it installed that is. Groan. Tell me. OK tomPM too.
[01:01] <Nasuga> Does anybody have an idea on how to restore grub after installing Windows XP with a live cd of ubuntu?
[01:03] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[01:03] <tripelb> mojtaba: look up, it makes the info-bot ubottu  tell you something. The thing is they want the entire question on one line. Then you wait. I am waiting, meanwhile, I found your VPN tutorial. Cool eh?
[01:04] <mojtaba> tripelb: what is info-bot?
[01:04] <memand> Nasuga: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstalling_GRUB_2
[01:04] <Nasuga> memand: Thansk
[01:04] <mojtaba> tripelb: Thank you by the way.
[01:04] <memand> np
[01:04] <tripelb>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:05] <marshall> how do I make it so that when a user runs a certain shell script, all of the files they create will belong to a group that the user belongs to, but isn't their primary group? is there a way to say "just use this group as the primary group for this shell session"?
[01:05] <apophisss> hi, looking for some direction... i set up a friend with 12.04 last night at a location with no network... it's a stock 12.04 32 bit install, i'd like to burn some packages (vlc, plugins for video, etc) on dvd to transport it to the computer and update
[01:05] <apophisss> i'm wondering if there is an easy way to download the packages as well as their dependancies?
[01:06] <airdem> is it okay to backup / via "tar -cpf"?
[01:06] <hd1> can I burn a bootable usb key of Ubuntu, if so, how?
[01:07] <Ubunturific> using what OS to create the Key?
[01:07] <apophisss> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[01:07] <memand> marshall: You could write some aliases into the ~.bashrc
[01:08] <ubuntu-tester> apophisss: apt-get download
[01:08] <apophisss> he has no internet from the computer
[01:08] <barbori4_> has anyone ever backed up their is cisco ios to ubuntu
[01:08] <apophisss> i have internet from mine, want to dl the packages and transport on burned DVD to the computer
[01:08] <quinn_> I can't change the brightness on my laptop, what's going on?
[01:09] <hd1> Mac OS X, Ubunturific
[01:09] <barbori4_> I just need link that shows me what to do to back up my router IOS to my linux machine
[01:09] <tripelb> This channel is only for tech question and answer. Often is helps busy. This is the side talk channel entry command. I just joined it.   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:09] <tripelb> This channel is only for tech question and answer. Often is helps busy. This is the side talk channel entry command. I just joined it.   /join #ubuntu-offtopic mojtaba
[01:09] <apophisss> quinn_ the FN+brightness keys don't work? Brightness and lock in the control panel doesn't work?
[01:10] <memand> apophisss: apt-get download [package] downloads the .deb file
[01:11] <apophisss> with dependancies?
[01:11] <craigbass1976> quinn_, what are you running?  I was about to ask the same thing.  Acer 7750 here, but a 5517 worked great.
[01:11] <ubuntu-tester> apophisss: or better: apt-get install --download-only [packages...]
[01:11] <quinn_> I have an Acer AO725-0487
[01:11] <quinn_> The meter and fn keys display and work
[01:12] <quinn_> but the brightness itself does not change
[01:12] <ubuntu-tester> apophisss: then burn package cache to CD
[01:12] <apophisss> i'd like to build the dvd from a windows machine...
[01:12]  * hd1 wonders if http://ubuntu-rescue-remix.org/files/URR/iso/ubuntu-rescue-remix-12-04.iso will work for rescuing his ubuntu installation
[01:12] <memand> quinn_: have they been working before?
[01:13] <craigbass1976> memand, probably not.  I'm reading a lot about trouble with them.
[01:15] <quinn_> no, this is a new install
[01:16] <apophisss> if i grab the vlc package from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/vlc download it with all the listed dependencies, will it work with a non-updated stock install of 12.04 32 bit?
[01:16] <tripelb> I found some manual partitioning instructions so I am leaving to try them on my own. I see I have to create swap etc and did not. Onward.
[01:17] <Baribal> Hi. I want to update only grub-pc to proposed, so I wrote this /etc/apt/preferences: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1557187/     However, when I do apt-get update, I see no mention of proposed, and apt-get install grub-pc won't update the pacage. What am I doing wrong?
[01:17] <quinn_> no, this is a new install
[01:18] <fooooooo> hello all can someone tell me how to display temperature in Celsius rather than Fahrenheit for ubuntu and xsensors
[01:19] <memand> quinn_: try doing 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |& curl -F sprunge=@- sprunge.us' and send me the link that comes back :)
[01:20] <Pez_2012> a
[01:21] <mojtaba> Did you find any tutorial for openvpn?
[01:21] <maheanuu> Well, I guess that it is back to Google, and the mine,  perhaps my questions are too easy for the hoi paloi, or I just do not know how to ask them, as pretty much usual, I end up working for about a week finding out how to do these things on my own.......
[01:22] <mojtaba> server and client side is highly appreciated.
[01:23] <memand> quinn_: u there?
[01:24] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: have you read the official one? http://openvpn.net/howto.html
[01:25] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: That is difficult for me as I am new to linux era.
[01:25] <craigbass1976> quinn_, you have a number pad on your laptop?
[01:27] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: but vpn setup isn't something that can be done with one click, without understanding, cause it's about security
[01:28] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Do you know any step by step video?
[01:28] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: you have to learn some tech details
[01:28] <memand> craigbass1976: I think quinn_ fell asleep :P
[01:29] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: If you know any step by step movie like, please kindly share it with me.
[01:29] <mojtaba> :)
[01:29] <craigbass1976> memand, Aww, balls.  I just fixed my number pad and thought he'd (she'd?) like to know.
[01:29] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: alternatively, you can use one of paid vpn services, they provide one-click solutions
[01:30] <dfc302> whats up guys
[01:30] <memand> craigbass1976: what fixed it?
[01:30] <mojtaba> Actually I want to configure it on my computer in my office and connect to it to dismiss filtering while I am away.
[01:30] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Actually I want to configure it on my computer in my office and connect to it to dismiss filtering while I am away.
[01:31] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: i don't know any video guides (you can search youtube). but i can help you with setup
[01:31] <memand> dfc302: sup?
[01:31] <mojtaba> ubuntu-tester: Actually I have installed it, but I really do appreciate if you can help me.
[01:31] <ubuntu-tester> mojtaba: pm me
[01:32] <craigbass1976> changing XKBOPTIONS="" to XKBOPTIONS="numpad:microsoft" in /etc/default/keyboard
[01:32] <craigbass1976> memand, ^^
[01:32] <craigbass1976> memand, the brightness solutions look like HACKS...
[01:32] <memand> craigbass1976: Aaah, the good old "made by MS" probæem :P
[01:33] <memand> *problem
[01:34] <craigbass1976> memand, they DO cause a lot of problems, don't they...
[01:35] <memand> craigbass1976: Let's just say that I'm not a fan
[01:37] <sfdve1213> anyone here support with Netflix-desktop install?
[01:37] <dr_willis> sfdve1213:  all i can say is that it worked for me.. other then that..  ;)
[01:37] <dr_willis> sfdve1213:  and it can be sluggish
[01:38] <sfdve1213> dr_willis: ok. I was trying to install it on Mint13 and got to the player; I have sound but no video
[01:38] <memand> craigbass1976: /etc/default/keyboard is where ubuntu keeps it's keyboar bindings? Or is it where it sets the kb setup?
[01:39] <craigbass1976> memand, I think setup.  Wouldn't bindings be somewhee in ~/ ?
[01:39] <memand> craigbass1976: Yeah, I think you'r right about that ;)
[01:40] <memand> craigbass1976: I can't say for sure though since I'm not on a ubuntu setup. But yeah probably somewhere in ~/.config/*
[01:44] <dr_willis> i rarely mess with keybindings.. some are handled by gnome some are handled by compiz
[01:46] <memand> dr_willis: True that :) I'm wondering why no one is taking up the task of making a better composite manager than compiz (that can do equally awesome stuff)
[01:47] <dr_willis> memand:  because its a thankless grueling task. ;)
[01:48] <memand> dr_willis: Aint everything made for Linux just that? ;)
[01:48] <php42> hello, how do i restore backups using backup-manager ?
[01:48] <php42> i'm doing incremental backups to S3
[01:49] <dr_willis> memand:   ever check out 'metesse' (i think i spelt it right) it was a WM/desktop that had neater features then compiz
[01:51] <helloworld> Hello World! I have ubuntu installed, but i would like to switch to linux mint. my computer does not have a disk drive. does anyone know how to do this?
[01:52] <craigbass1976> memand, fixed brightness too!
[01:52] <dr_willis> helloworld:  you mean you have no cdrom drive?
[01:52] <Hilikus> how can i check if a burnt iso is not corrupted?
[01:52] <jda2000> helloworld, does you computer have PXE boot capability.
[01:52] <memand> dr_willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbrfy-HN4Gw
[01:52] <dr_willis> !md5 | Hilikus
[01:53] <helloworld> there is not optical drive, and i do not know what PXE boot capability is
[01:53] <jda2000> helloworld, Or should I say can it boot from the network adapter?
[01:53] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  check the md5 sum of the burnt cd
[01:53] <helloworld> it can do that
[01:53] <dr_willis> helloworld:  use a bootable flash drive.. and i really suggest just sticking to Ubuntu
[01:53] <dr_willis> the cd also has some sort of verify option i thought
[01:53] <Hilikus> dr_willis: i saw that one, but it is to checksum the original iso and compare it to a number online, what i want is to checksum the created cd with all the files inside to see if it matches the content of the original iso
[01:54] <jda2000> helloworld, I guess I should have asked if you can boot from a flas drive first.
[01:54] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  if the checksum of the burnt cd  is the same as the iso. that sort of confirms its good.
[01:54] <memand> jda2000: :P
[01:54] <Hilikus> dr_willis: how do i checksum a cd? it will give one checksum for each file, whereas the iso is a single file
[01:55] <dr_willis> Hilikus:  i recall the live cds haveing some verify option that checked the files also.
[01:55] <dr_willis>  Hilikus  md5sum /dev/cdrom
[01:55] <php42> dr_willis++
[01:55] <helloworld_> sorry, my computer derped
[01:56] <helloworld_> was it jda2000 that was helping me?
[01:57] <jda2000> it was dr_willis
[01:57] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  booting/installing from flash drive is commonplace.. i suggest sticking to ubuntu.
[01:57] <helloworld_> ok.
[01:57] <helloworld_> i tried to install from a USB, but it did not work
[01:58] <dr_willis> then either you made the usb wrong, or dident tell the pc to boot the usb.. or it cant boot fromusb
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> Q: Is there a way to reset your theme and all with Unity?
[01:58] <jda2000> helloworld_, USB flash or DVD?
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> I have a weird issues where menu items have a white background but white text as well.
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> It's quite buggy.
[01:58] <quinn_> I installed the proprietary AMD driver and now it has a watermark that says it's unsupported. I'm at a tty right now and I NEED THIS TO WORK VERY SOON. PLEASE HELP
[01:58] <dr_willis> Crazy_Spai:  all your settings are in .compiz and .config for the most part. You could rename those 2 dirs. and relog in
[01:58] <quinn_> I need to get back to the open source driver
[01:58] <Crazy_Spai> dr_willis: Thank you very much.
[01:58] <adamk> quinn_: So uninstall the proprietary driver.
[01:58] <helloworld_> when i booted from the usb, it said "non-system disk. press any key to reboot"
[01:58] <quinn_> How?
[01:59] <dr_willis> quinn_:  i belive theres a answer to that on askubuntu.com how to turnoff the watermark
[01:59] <memand> quinn_: What drivers did you install for what?
[01:59] <quinn_> flgrx or whatever for a Radeon 7290
[01:59] <adamk> quinn_: Presumably you used the Ubuntu driver installer (jockey) to install the drivers, right, since that's the supported method?  Just use the jockey to turn it off.
[01:59] <jda2000> helloworld_, so it didn't get far enough along to break you ubuntu system.....
[01:59] <quinn_> But if the GUI doesn't work...
[02:00] <adamk> You didn't say the GUI doesn't work...
[02:00] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=amd+watermark
[02:00] <helloworld_> jda2000: what does that mean
[02:00] <quinn_> I said I was at a TTY, but I can't be pedantic right now
[02:00] <adamk> quinn_: So use 'apt-get remove fglrx*' to remove fglrx.
[02:00] <jda2000> helloworld_, you can still boot ubuntu?
[02:00] <adamk> quinn_: Maybe you can't, but I can.  What you said is not the same as "the GUI isn't working" :-)
[02:01] <julian-delphiki> there are other ways to get to a TTY than having the gui not work
[02:01] <julian-delphiki> so, adamk is correct
[02:01] <quinn_> Okay, it's removing
[02:01] <helloworld_> jda2000: if I remove the flash drive or change the boot priority, ubuntu loads normally
[02:02] <adamk> quinn_: As dr_willis said, you could also go through the steps to remove the watermark, but you will also need to check the Xorg log file to see why Xorg failed in the first place.
[02:02] <jda2000> helloworld_, OK, how much free space do you have on your hard drive?
[02:02] <quinn_> Restarting the computer..
[02:03] <helloworld_> jda2000: im not sure about the free space, but the whole thing is 160 gigs
[02:03] <n3tw0rk401> Xorg -configure
[02:03] <n3tw0rk401> that will create a new xorg file for you
[02:03] <jda2000> helloworld_, try df
[02:03] <helloworld_> hold on
[02:04] <helloworld_> jda200: it says 542664
[02:04] <quinn_> I had another question - brightness adjustment doesn't work on my machine. The FN keys show the little toggle menu, and the bar will move according to how I press buttons
[02:04] <quinn_> But the brightness of the screen itself does not change.
[02:05] <jda2000> helloworld_, have you backe everything up?
[02:05] <memand> quinn_: try doing 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness |& curl -F sprunge=@- sprunge.us' and send me the link that comes back :)
[02:05] <jda2000> helloworld_, have you backed everything up?
[02:05] <helloworld_> no, but there is nothing on m system i want to keep
[02:06] <quinn_> The first command comes up saying 0
[02:06] <n3tw0rk401> echo "7" > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[02:06] <jda2000> helloworld_, what did you put on the USB drive before you tried to boot it?
[02:06] <quinn_> The first command comes up saying 0
[02:06] <helloworld_> jda2000: like, ever?
[02:07] <quinn_> curling the link
[02:07] <ubuntu> "/server rizonbnc.us.rizon.net 1234 sh1nji:kil.,m
[02:07] <quinn_> nothing's coming up so far
[02:07] <ubuntu> 0-o
[02:08] <jda2000> helloworld_, no, how did you prepare it for the install.
[02:09] <quinn_> Nothing's coming up with that curl
[02:09] <quinn_> ....
[02:10] <memand> quinn_: try 'cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness |& curl -F sprunge=@- sprunge.us'
[02:10] <helloworld_> jda2000: i used unetbootin to make a bootable usb with the iso i wanted, i plugged it in, changed the bios settings
[02:11] <quinn_> Max brightness comes up as 10
[02:11] <jda2000> helloworld_, that sounds about right.
[02:12] <quinn_> Nothing's coming up with curl
[02:12] <quinn_> !info curl
[02:12] <helloworld_> jda2000: but when i boot up, it says "non-system disk. press any key to reboot"
[02:12] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  sounds like either the usb was made wrong. or its not seeing the usb first
[02:12] <jda2000> helloworld_, What kind of CPU do you have?
[02:12] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: what happened then you curl'd
[02:12] <memand> quinn_: Ok, then try 'sudo echo 10 > sudo /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness'
[02:13] <helloworld_> jda200: i have no idea
[02:13] <jda2000> helloworld_, This is just a shot in the dark but did you remove the USB from the drive before you re-booted?
[02:13] <helloworld_> jda2000: no
[02:14] <jda2000> helloworld_, This is just a shot in the dark but did you remove the USB from the socket.
[02:14] <helloworld_> jda2000: no
[02:15] <jda2000> helloworld_, at this point it looks like something went wrong with the preparation of the USB drive but I don't have a clue as to what.
[02:15] <cfhowlett> helloworld_, drives do go bad ...
[02:15] <memand> quinn_: Did anything happen when you did 'sudo echo 10 > sudo /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' ?
[02:15] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  theres alterantive tools to make usb flash from isos at the pendrivelinux web site
[02:16] <Corey> memand: NO.
[02:16] <Corey> memand: You cannot redirect the output of sudo.
[02:16] <quinn_> let me check
[02:16] <helloworld_> jda2000: when i look at the files on the usb, there are some .exe files. does this mean the os i want can only be installed on windows?
[02:16] <Corey> !sudotee
[02:16] <jda2000> helloworld_, That
[02:16] <quinn_> Didn't work
[02:17] <jda2000> helloworld_, seems a bit odd.
[02:17] <memand> Corey: Then how would you recommend doing?
[02:17] <julian-delphiki> sudo sh -c "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlights/acpi_video0/brightness"
[02:17] <Corey> memand: printf "foo" | sudo tee /etc/file
[02:17] <Corey> I'm sure there's a factoid somewhere for that.
[02:17] <julian-delphiki> or this, memand:  sudo sh -c "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlights/acpi_video0/brightness"
[02:17] <quinn_> Nothing
[02:17] <julian-delphiki> should work
[02:18] <jtrucks> anyone worked with spideroak headless on multiple systems?
[02:18] <jda2000> helloworld_, You didn't see any error mesages as the USB drive was being set up?
[02:18] <quinn_> Was I supposed to put in the quotes too?
[02:18] <helloworld_> jda2000: in unetbootin?
[02:18] <jda2000> helloworld_, right.
[02:18] <memand> quinn_: Try the command that julian-delphiki wrote above you
[02:18] <helloworld_> jda2000: nope
[02:19] <quinn_> it puts a > before lines
[02:19] <jda2000> helloworld_, I like dr_willis's suggestion that there are other tools out there to make a bootable USB drive.
[02:19] <quinn_> Nothing else comes up..
[02:19] <helloworld_> jda2000: the ones i can find are all .exes
[02:19] <memand> quinn_: what do you mean it put's a > ?
[02:20] <Aufwind> Hi, I just updated my Ubuntu machine including some proprietary nvidia drivers and my Display which had usually a high Resolution (32 inches) is now "downgraded to" 1280x760. And this is the highest resolution I can select in settings. Any ideas what could have been broken? If you need more informaition to help me just let me know please. Don't know where to start. :-)
[02:20] <jda2000> helloworld_, Hmm...
[02:20] <dr_willis> pendrivelinux site has them for linux and windows.. and with newer disrtos you can just 'dd' the iso file straight to the usb
[02:20] <quinn_> If I hit return, it goes one line down and just has a > and then a flashing line
[02:21] <madprops> should i logout for update-alternative changes to take effect?
[02:21] <memand> quinn_: Ok, pres ctrl+c
[02:21] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: hit control-c, and then type sudo bash -c "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlights/acpi_video0/brightness"
[02:21] <helloworld_> dr_willis: i just do "dd isonamehere.iso"  ?
[02:21] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  you have to tell it where to go.
[02:21] <helloworld_> dr_willis: how
[02:21] <quinn_> same result
[02:21] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  and if you tell it the wrong device = erased hd
[02:22] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: and nothing is happening to your backlight?
[02:22] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  sudo dd if=theisofile.iso of=/dev/sdX                  where X = a,b,c,d  or whatever letter your usb is
[02:22] <quinn_> Nothing seems to be changing..
[02:22] <helloworld_> dr_willis: thank you, iwill try that
[02:22] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: try this command then
[02:22] <quinn_> The hardware keys act like I'm changing it, but the brightness isn't changing
[02:22] <dr_willis> quinn_:  it may be easier to be trying these echos from a root shell. that way the sudo redirection is not confuseing thingsd
[02:22] <jda2000> helloworld_, in fact, I see usb-creator-gtk on my Ubuntu system....
[02:23] <julian-delphiki> echo 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[02:23] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  get the wrong drive letter = erased hard drive..   so watch out
[02:23] <julian-delphiki> try that quinn_^
[02:23] <cfhowlett> jda2000, not sure it's not standard on ALL buntu's.  It's on my xubuntu as well
[02:23] <helloworld_> dr willis: how do i find out what letter the usb is
[02:23] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: after you ctrl-c to make sure you're out of the >'s
[02:23] <dr_willis> helloworld_:  sudo blkid
[02:23] <helloworld_> dr_willis: thank you
[02:24] <quinn_> oK, i AM ROOT
[02:24] <usr13>  !openvpn helloworld_ sudo fdisk -l
[02:24] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: hmm, that wasn't the intent...
[02:24] <elise0011> Hi I did a pastebin under elise001, Would appreciate help with broken dependencies on my Ubuntu laptop. Now on Windows 8 machine. Prefer Ubuntu, when it is working.
[02:24] <memand> julian-delphiki: Do you know if the backlight can be controled elsewhere?
[02:24] <helloworld_> usr13: what was that
[02:24] <julian-delphiki> memand: only if it has a diff video driver...
[02:24] <quinn_> It prints back 10
[02:24] <quinn_> And nothing else
[02:24] <usr13> helloworld_: It's a command that will show you the device names of your HDs
[02:24] <cfhowlett> elise0011, and the pastebin url is ... ?
[02:25] <elise0011> And how do I change my name to elise001 here on irc please?
[02:25] <helloworld_> usr13: thx
[02:25] <usr13> helloworld_: NP
[02:25] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: pastebin the output of  "ls -lR /sys/class/backlight"
[02:25] <memand> quinn_: then try 'printf 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness'
[02:25] <dr_willis> quinn_:
[02:25] <dr_willis> sudo cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[02:25] <dr_willis>  
[02:25] <elise0011> cfhowlett: I have to figure that out.
[02:25] <dr_willis> shows the value of that variable also. ;)
[02:26] <dr_willis> elise0011:  /nick pick-a-nick
[02:26] <cfhowlett> elise0011, do the paste and copy/paste the url in the channel
[02:26] <BigBear> #swig
[02:26] <quinn_> pastebin.com/8uUsgC93
[02:27] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: again with a capital R please.
[02:28] <elise0011> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/e5GAwMgX
[02:28] <jc___> I installed a new network card and installed the drivers off the CD. I need to blacklist rt2800, but even though I have rt2800pci rt2800usb tr2800lib  and rt2x00lib usb pci blacklisted they are still loading! how can I make them stop?
[02:28] <quinn_> pastebin.com/06MZ8wfn
[02:28] <cfhowlett> elise0011, grr.  I'm in China and for some reason, the great firewall is blocking that url today ... among others.
[02:29] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: and what video card do you have?
[02:29] <elise0011> cfhowlett: Funny, your name does not sound Chinese. I am near Stanford University. A few miles away.
[02:29] <quinn_> Radeon HD 7290
[02:29] <quinn_> It's on an AMD C-70 APU
[02:30] <cfhowlett> elise0011,  I'm an American in China.  :)
[02:30] <samba35> i have 3 linux system and some time confused with hostname and ip and port  so , is there any way to get login prompt with system name (and /or with  uname -a) detail at ssh login prompt
[02:30] <memand> quinn_: try this 'xbacklight -dec 40'
[02:30] <dr_willis> samba35:  thers 1000's of ways to customise your bash prompt. checkout the 'bash prompt howto' at tldp.org
[02:30] <shortstraw8> Anyone have google-talk installed, I'm running 12.04 an the packages they give for plugins do not work
[02:31] <memand> quinn_: or 'xbacklight -inc 40'
[02:31] <dr_willis> samba35:  as for befor the login. theres the MOTD file you can alter. but ssh may not show that
[02:31] <elise0011> Can anybody besides cfhowlett help me with my broken Ubuntu system on my other laptop, please?
[02:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I am having trouble with one of my 250gb sata drives. There are "splicing" errors when I try to copy files from the drive to another drive (ext4 to ext4). I only have ext4, except for my external drives.
[02:32] <elise0011> I have broken dependencies. About to flood. Sorry.
[02:32] <quinn_> Neither of those did anything
[02:32] <julian-delphiki> elise0011: paste bin
[02:32] <samba35> ok thanks
[02:32] <elise0011> http://pastebin.com/e5GAwMgX    Maybe not flood.
[02:32] <Seven_Six_Two> The partition locks up when I try to read a file, but reappears after a reboot.
[02:33] <memand> quinn_: and it did not complay that xbacklight was not installed?
[02:33] <quinn_> I installed it
[02:33] <quinn_> It told me it wasn't installed, so I installed it
[02:33] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  sounds like a HD is failing. or vry bad fs curruption
[02:33] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: i have an idea. reboot with acpi_backlight=vendor as a kernel parameter
[02:33] <quinn_> How do I do that?
[02:33] <elise0011> sudo apt-get install -f        is not working.
[02:34] <elise0011> charlie/Guest66435: How did you change your name on irc please?
[02:35] <dr_willis> elise0011:   /nick Pick-a-nick
[02:35] <julian-delphiki> elise0011, pretty sure that's already been explained to you.
[02:35] <julian-delphiki> elise0011: /nick elisesnewnick
[02:35] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, that's what I was thinking, but it's not getting worse, and not making noise. SMART says clean
[02:35] <quinn_> How do I do that?
[02:35] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  ive seen hds fail/die/come back to life... ;) work for a week.. then die again
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, it's also not refusing to mount or forcing a scan when I boot.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> yeah, I just bought a 2TB drive tonight, but I'
[02:36] <julian-delphiki> quinn_: it requires getting into grub prompt :S
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm trying to save what I can first.
[02:36] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  may be time ti learn how to use ddrescue ;)
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, not heard. distro?
[02:36] <quinn_> I'm doing this from a different computer
[02:36] <elise0001> So how do I fix my broken dependencies please?
[02:36] <dr_willis> Seven_Six_Two:  just a tool for imageing/recoverying a hd/partion to a file/hd.
[02:36] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, or is it a package?
[02:37] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: can you re link your paste bin and I will take a look
[02:37] <Seven_Six_Two> dr_willis, oh, I'll check that out, thanks
[02:37] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[02:37] <dr_willis>  ddrescue /dev/hdc hdimage logfile
[02:38] <elise0001> julian-delphiki:   sudo apt-get install -f       will repaste
[02:38] <elise0001> http://pastebin.com/e5GAwMgX
[02:39] <elise0001> Thjanjks
[02:39] <elise0001> Thanks
[02:39] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: what caused this to start?
[02:40] <dr_willis> this may be caused by held packages  --> tried a 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'  ?
[02:40] <jda2000> I want to drag a bash script onto the launcher and have it stick there.  What keys should I hold down?
[02:40] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: and this is on a laptop?
[02:40] <jda2000> On 12.04
[02:40] <julian-delphiki> elise0001, yeah, try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:40] <dr_willis> jda2000:  i dont think unity works that way. You may be able to make a .desktop file that launches the script and drag it...
[02:41] <elise0001> I think it happened over a week ago when the laptop had problems part way thru an upgrade. Monitor tiles strangely. Maybe have bad video drivers. Flakely computer. Power cord connection flakey.
[02:41] <jda2000> dr_willis, Ok THanks I'll google that.
[02:41] <elise0001> Got computer from silent auction.
[02:42] <julian-delphiki> elise0001, yeah, try a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:42] <jc___> I can't blacklist rt2800
[02:42] <elise0001> When monitor tiles, I have to unplug computer from power cord and take battery out and restart.
[02:43] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: okay, just please run the command
[02:43] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: don't really need /all/ of the backstory
[02:43] <econdudeawesome> howdy all
[02:43] <elise0001> ok
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> I am having a hard time figuring out how to get at old CRX database files in Ubuntu
[02:44] <econdudeawesome> specifically the metadata
[02:44] <elise0001> Will go try that now.
[02:44] <julian-delphiki> econdudeawesome: so.. chrome extensions
[02:45] <econdudeawesome> julian-delphiki: are you kidding? Sweet. Do you know of a specific one? (Working with FERC data, tiny little buggers not don't appear to be unicode)
[02:45] <julian-delphiki> econdudeawesome: i mean, aren't crx files chrome extensions?
[02:45] <fission6> i see my ssh port is opened when i scan my IP, but i don't understand what box it is? thatsmy ISP
[02:45] <econdudeawesome> julian-delphiki: no, not chrome extensions unfortunately. Old Visual Fox Pro database files
[02:46] <econdudeawesome> julian-delphiki: they may well share the extensions though
[02:46] <julian-delphiki> fission6: Do you have your port forwarded in your router?
[02:46] <Corey> econdudeawesome: I'd start digging through the apt repos to see if you can find something that'll get you the data you need.  Then script around it, iterate through.
[02:46] <fission6> i don't believe so
[02:47] <econdudeawesome> Corey: I would but I can't figure out the encoding at all
[02:47] <julian-delphiki> fission6: you have to forward it, if you're behind a router, or you won't be able to publically ssh to it.
[02:47] <fission6> i know
[02:47] <fission6> thats why i don't understand why port 22 is opened
[02:47] <fission6> when i scan my ip
[02:47] <Corey> econdudeawesome: Grab one of them, what does "file" say about it?
[02:47] <julian-delphiki> fission6: yep, it's open
[02:47] <fission6> yea
[02:48] <fission6> but why / how
[02:48] <julian-delphiki> fission6: and you're sure its not the SSH server?
[02:48] <econdudeawesome> Corey: Gotta be cross-listed. Maple Help Database. But the files were created by Visual Fox Pro in the late 90s
[02:48] <somsip> fission6: do you ahve a router/cable-modem?
[02:48] <Corey> econdudeawesome: Is this sensitive data, or can you share a file?
[02:49] <fission6> yes its paired together somsip
[02:49] <fission6> its one device
[02:49] <somsip> fission6: and you are scanning from an external source using you ISP allocated IP?
[02:49] <fission6> yep
[02:49] <econdudeawesome> Corey: I can share the file. Here is a link from the FERC site: http://www.ferc.gov/docs-filing/forms/form-1/data.asp
[02:50] <somsip> fission6: so does your router have access to admin functions through SSH?
[02:50] <Corey> econdudeawesome: 82 MB compressed>
[02:50] <Corey> This might take some time. :-)
[02:50] <fission6> well i mean its one device
[02:51] <julian-delphiki> fission6: it's probably a port open for them to run diagnostics
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> Corey: yeah, sorry. The actual crx files are only like 8 kb or so...
[02:51] <julian-delphiki> fission6: however, it is a really old version of ssh...
[02:51] <econdudeawesome> they're metadata for the .dbf files (which open fine with a spreadsheet program)
[02:51] <Corey> econdudeawesome: Downloded.  Okay, let's see here.
[02:51] <fission6> julian-delphiki: i agree but still scary no?
[02:52] <julian-delphiki> fission6: you could always ask them why it's open
[02:52] <fission6> i just may
[02:52] <somsip> fission6: and you are scanning externaly, like from ShieldsUp or somewhere? Not scanning from your PC?
[02:52] <elise0001> Did not work.
[02:52] <elise0001> Will pastebin results
[02:52] <fission6> somsip yep, why do you ask
[02:52] <julian-delphiki> somsip: i just sucessfully connect to it, so yes, fission6 is talking externally
[02:53] <fission6> julian-delphiki: how did you connect just ssh?
[02:53] <somsip> fission6: because routesr can allow some ports from LAN but denies from WAN. So they appear open on an nmap scan by me, but not from elsewhere
[02:53] <julian-delphiki> fission6: yes
[02:53] <julian-delphiki> somsip: that's not the case here
[02:54] <fission6> i think its opened for the ISp
[02:54] <fission6> which is nuts
[02:54] <Corey> Hmm, none of my usual tools crack it open, econdudeawesome.
[02:54] <econdudeawesome> Corey: okay
[02:54] <vjacob> hiya. any ideas on how to proceed with an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04, if "do-release-upgrade -d" only gives "No new release found" ?
[02:55] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: does it do anything without the -d?
[02:55] <vjacob> the /etc/lsb-release on the system contains "normal"
[02:56] <vjacob> sorry /etc/release-upgrades. meanwhile, /etc/lsb-release correctly reflects the installed system
[02:56] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, no
[02:56] <elise0001> julian-delphiki and others:   http://pastebin.com/QH4WVG8E
[02:57] <julian-delphiki> elise0001.... sudo apt-get dist-upgrade no spaces
[02:57] <julian-delphiki> between dist and upgrade
[02:58] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, if it makes any difference I think I started such an upgrade (and it worked) but interrupted it after 10 seconds
[02:58] <vjacob> in the past (had to make a backup first)
[02:58] <julian-delphiki> hmm....
[02:58] <vjacob> oh well
[02:59] <vjacob> I guess 11.10 will serve me fine, security updates seem to install and all
[02:59] <julian-delphiki> well, you could uninstall the package for upgrades and reinstall it
[02:59] <vjacob> oh
[02:59] <vjacob> good idea
[02:59] <vjacob> update-manager-core?
[02:59] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: apt-get remove --purge update-manager-core
[02:59] <julian-delphiki> yep
[03:00] <julian-delphiki> elise0001: why not just reinstall the OS on this?
[03:01] <blackangel> had anyone being lucky enought to get the ati 13 drivers works on ubuntu 12.10 yet?
[03:03] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, I didn't realise that purging ubuntu-desktop would make network-manager disfunctional
[03:03] <texla> I installed Ubuntu-12.04.1 to a 16 gb usb flash drive...When booting I  get the following message;;Out of range cannot display video mode change computer display input to 1600x1200 60mhz..How to fix
[03:04] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, hope that I can get the network back using wicd-curses, so I can reinstall ubuntu-desktop, update-manager-core, etc.
[03:04] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: oh, ouch, sorry about that
[03:04] <vjacob> not your fault
[03:05] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|texla,
[03:06] <texla> cfhowlett, The message time out and then the o/s is fine...Monitor set at 1600x1200 4.3 and the o/s display the same
[03:09] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, if I can't find a way to get the network working again, which packages would you guess I should find a way to transfer manually or using a USB connected CDR?
[03:10] <vjacob> hopefully USB will work
[03:11] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: you should be able to mess with /etc/network/interfaces to make network work
[03:11] <asidjazz> anyone here konw vpnc well
[03:11] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: is this on wifi or wired?
[03:12] <asidjazz> im trying to setup vpnc on a remote box and i lose internet on it when it successfully connects.. ssh dies.. anyone know what i can do?
[03:12] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, ethernet
[03:12] <php42> hello, how do i restore incremental backups that i've backed up to s3 using backup-manager ?
[03:12] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: then it should work easily.
[03:12] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: actually, if you do "sudo dhclient eth0" it may pick up an address that way
[03:13] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, actually it's already in there
[03:13] <julian-delphiki> and then you can reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:13] <cfhowlett> php42, I THINK it's sudo apt-get upgrade --reinstall
[03:14] <Hieber> Hey guys, I just installed 12.10, went through all of the updates and whatnot, but I have an issue: I can't change the status (under the envelope icon) to something other than offline.
[03:14] <Drex_> Hello, Software Center is not launching, sometimes throws an error, any advice on how to fix ?
[03:15] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, that last commands just hangs (blank line, blinking cursor). also "service networking stop" does the same
[03:15] <vjacob> any other ideas?
[03:15] <vjacob> I'm a bit hesitant to reboot presently, as you might imagine :)
[03:15] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: well... does "ifconfig" say that it has an IP?
[03:16] <vjacob> it doesn't (tried that). also "wicd-curses" never seems to finish 'obtaining IP address' (used to work, AFAIK)
[03:17] <vjacob> getting stranger...
[03:17] <julian-delphiki> vjacob, hmm, ifconfig eth0 down
[03:17] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: and then ifconfig eth0 up
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[03:18] <_LoL_> ❤♥
[03:18] <FloodBot1> _LoL_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:19] <shortstraw8> So I downloaded the plugin for hangout(google) the package in downloads reads...... google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb. If I exract it pulls DEBIAN  ect  opt  usr, and nothing works does this have to be in the file system and if so how do I get it there correctly? running 12.04 ubuntu
[03:19] <cfhowlett> shortstraw8, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb us the usual method
[03:20] <acu> I have a ubuntu 10.04 with a user name but I do not know the password - however I know the password for root - but I do not know what do I need to press when the system boots to see the CLI - and login as root  - can anyone tell me how ?
[03:20] <iml> acu: type su to login as root
[03:21] <acu> iml: but I have only the gnome login and there is only one user as option - how can I get to command line interface
[03:22] <shortstraw8> cfhowlett, no gives me   dpkg: error processing foo.deb
[03:22] <julian-delphiki> acu: ubuntu doesn't have a root login by default, unless you enabled it...
[03:22] <elise0001> Stiil not working. Please see   http://pastebin.com/kC2DTYPb
[03:22] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, didn't work I am afraid (sorry for being difficult here)
[03:22] <cfhowlett> acu if you can log in as root, just reset the user password
[03:22] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: hrmm..
[03:23] <cfhowlett> shortstraw8, sorry, that was my best shot.  ask again in channel.
[03:23] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: i'd reboot :S
[03:23] <acu> is there a way to boot in cli not gdm ? Grub is not installed it seem
[03:23] <raven_> well i have no sound, when i watched tutorials on youtube they said i should install some package because i have an 8core amd, but i cant find it in the software center, i also havent installed my graphics because theres a few options and i dont know which is best
[03:23] <shortstraw8> So I downloaded the plugin for hangout(google) the package in downloads reads...... google-talkplugin_current_amd64.deb. If I exract it pulls DEBIAN  ect  opt  usr, and nothing works does this have to be in the file system and if so how do I get it there correctly? running 12.04 ubuntu
[03:23] <bazhang> !nox | acu
[03:23] <cfhowlett> acu, boot into recovery mode will bring you to CLI
[03:23] <zero_coder> hello , i had been using windows alongside ubuntu , but now i have moved windows free , i have got freed paritions , how can i merge it with ubuntu's main partition??
[03:23] <cfhowlett> acu, grub IS installed
[03:23] <raven_> can anyone help me?
[03:24] <julian-delphiki> shortstraw8: you have to install that, not extract it.
[03:24] <bazhang> !gparted | zero_coder
[03:24] <iml> acu: try ctrl-alt-f2 to switch to a console, not sure what login prompt you will get though
[03:24] <cfhowlett> zero_coder, boot an ubuntu USB/CD and use gparted
[03:24] <raven_> can anyone help me to get my sound to work
[03:24] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, working again!
[03:24] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, I don't understand what happened exactly :)
[03:25] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: meh :P
[03:25] <zero_coder> can i use it directly from ubuntu to get the job done??
[03:25] <shortstraw8> julian-delphiki,  what command from the terminal? do you know?
[03:25] <bazhang> shortstraw8, simply double clicking it should open the software center
[03:25] <cfhowlett> !patience|raven_,
[03:25] <bazhang> !audio | raven_ read this first
[03:25] <vjacob> julian-delphiki, thanks a bunch
[03:25] <vjacob> I appreciate it.
[03:25] <shortstraw8> bazhang, says that it is not supported when I do that.
[03:25] <bazhang> shortstraw8, dpkg -i file.deb
[03:26] <bazhang> shortstraw8, then you need the 32bit one
[03:26] <cfhowlett> raven_, NO sound?  or just no sound when in youtube?
[03:26] <vjacob> do-upgrade-release is working.
[03:26] <julian-delphiki> vjacob: sweet.
[03:26] <vjacob> very.
[03:26] <vjacob> good stuff, ubuntu.
[03:26] <vjacob> good stuff!
[03:27] <asidjazz> anyone know the equivalent vpnc configuraiton for hte checkbox "use the connections only for hte resources on its network" ?
[03:27] <shortstraw8> bazhang, Even if I'm on a 64bit?
[03:27] <sammuchann> Can youdisable the amazon search on 12.10?
[03:27] <somsip> !shopping | sammuchann
[03:27] <bazhang> shortstraw8, did you try the command I gave you
[03:27] <bazhang> !adlens | sammuchann
[03:27] <sammuchann> Thanks :D
[03:27] <marta> hi all
[03:28] <cfhowlett> marta, greetings
[03:28] <marta> i have a problem with apt-mirror
[03:28] <shortstraw8> bazhang, Yes I got a     dpkg: error processing file.deb (--install):
[03:28] <marta> cannot open gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/precise/main/binary-: No such file
[03:28] <marta> you can see the double "//"
[03:28] <bazhang> shortstraw8, did you actually write file.deb ? or the actual file name
[03:28] <marta> how can i clean it?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> marta, ez fix is to switch to a different mirror to test
[03:29] <marta> is the mirror the problem?
[03:29] <marta> i try another in a minute
[03:30] <elise0001> Downloading Ubuntu 12.04.01 on my broken Ubuntu laptop. Hope monitor does not tile during download.
[03:30] <acu> how can I boot in recovery mode as I do not see the grub dialog ?
[03:30] <marta> same error:   cannot open archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/precise/main/binary-: No such file
[03:30] <cfhowlett> marta, IDK if the mirror is up/down/broken but  a quick test of an alternate should clarify matters somewhat
[03:30] <bazhang> acu, is this a dualboot? a wubi install? or standalone ubuntu
[03:30] <vjacob> all right. later guys.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> marta, then something else is happening.  Sadly, over my head to fix.  Please stay in channel and ask again.
[03:31] <matthewvz> acu: Have you tried hitting shift while booting?
[03:31] <acu> bazhang, is a standalone, but I cannot see the grub
[03:31] <marta> thanks
[03:31] <bazhang> acu, hold shift at boot then
[03:31] <shortstraw8> bazhang,  yes the first time my bad.   Says no such file or directory
[03:31] <usr13> acu: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode
[03:31] <marta> someone know how to fix apt-mirror?
[03:31] <iml> it's the url, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:31] <cfhowlett> raven_, what is your hardward?
[03:32] <raven_> okay.. which graphics drivers are best for a 7950
[03:32] <bazhang> shortstraw8, are you in the correct directory? tab complete to finish the package name
[03:32] <nuxninja> hello
[03:32] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, greetings
[03:32] <raven_> its fxed.. it was defaulted to the wrong thing >_<
[03:32] <nuxninja> cfhowlett: use alsa mixer to check settings.......alternatively check the indicator applet to see if sound is not muted for applications
[03:32] <raven_> now i just dont know which graphics drivers to install
[03:33] <marta> apt-mirro cannot open gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/precise/main/binary-: No such file anyone can help me?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, ??? I think you mean Raven ... my sound works.
[03:33] <raven_> and do i need to install drivers for my cpu ? i dont know if it needs extra stuff because its an 8 core?
[03:33] <acu> it does not work, I wish I could not the ip address - I know this is a vlan from kvm libvirt
[03:33] <shortstraw8> bazhang, I needed to cd to downloads didnt I
[03:33] <asidjazz> anyone here have any experience with vpnc?
[03:34] <bazhang> shortstraw8, where did you download it to
[03:34] <raven_> ubuntu isnt very.. female friendly >_>
[03:34] <bazhang> asidjazz, ask the actual question
[03:34] <iml> marta: the url is obviously incorrect, but isn't this an apt-get problem? why apt-mirror?
[03:34] <usr13> raven_: WHy do you way that?
[03:34] <bazhang> raven_, thats nonsense
[03:34] <shortstraw8> bazhang, downloads
[03:34] <cfhowlett> raven_, ubuntu has no gender preferences
[03:34] <raven_> lol.. sorry im just having trouble
[03:34] <marta> i need a local mirro for my local net
[03:34] <thomedy> please please pleaes... i have been doing some work on a project for a client i went to make a bakc up just now before sending off my progress and i accidentally hit tar -xvzf instead of tar -cvzf is there anywhere i can recover the old version
[03:34] <thomedy> please
[03:34] <usr13> raven_: Is the drink holder not working?
[03:34] <bazhang> raven_, wrong channel for that
[03:34]  * thomedy crosses his fingers
[03:34] <bazhang> usr13, thats enough
[03:35] <marta> i'd like to use this because i read is more useful but this bug make me really angry
[03:35] <asidjazz> bazhang: i got this remote box to connect to a vpn just fine.. but it drops my ssh connection and isnt connectable until i reboot it
[03:35] <raven_> cananyone help me install ati graphics drivers?
[03:35] <dr_willis> thomedy:  you extacted the old version on top of your new?
[03:35] <usr13> bazhang: Where is your sense of humor?
[03:35] <marta> apt-get works fine
[03:35] <thomedy> i didn't mean to but yes
[03:35] <asidjazz> bazhang: i basically need the command line option of that checkbox to "use the connections only for the resources on its network" equivalent
[03:35] <thomedy> i was trying to cvzf instead of x i just did it too fast
[03:35] <dr_willis> thomedy:  i know of no way to revover them
[03:35] <bazhang> usr13, this is NOT the jokes channel. /msg ubottu behelpful
[03:36] <iml> marta: I think you need to configure /etc/apt/mirror.list so it uses the working sources from sources.list
[03:36] <thomedy> anyone else
[03:36] <raven_> :(
[03:36] <bazhang> shortstraw8, try to tab complete the package name
[03:36] <raven_> this needs like a new user guide
[03:37] <bazhang> !manual | raven_ have a read
[03:37] <cfhowlett> raven_,  there is a downloadable ubuntu manual
[03:37] <bazhang> !rute | raven_ and these
[03:37]  * cfhowlett *bazhang has the flying fingers over his keyboard!*
[03:38] <shortstraw8> bazhang, No your right    says package architecture (amd64) does not match system
[03:38] <bazhang> shortstraw8, do you get what I mean by tab complete?
[03:38] <marta> @iml http://pastebin.com/aS6ca7LG
[03:39] <shortstraw8> bazhang,  Thought that I had the 64bit OS
[03:39] <bazhang> shortstraw8, well once you have the correct package, you now know how to install it
[03:41] <marta> http://pastebin.com/equTedms
[03:42] <raven_> i just need help for graphics drivers..
[03:42] <julian-delphiki> marta: take the / off the end of the ubuntu
[03:42] <julian-delphiki> ...
[03:42] <usr13> raven_: What is your gpu?
[03:42] <raven_> amd 7950
[03:43] <shortstraw8> bazhang, thanks!
[03:43] <dr_willis> often askubuntu.com and the forums will have help for specific problematic video cards.   I dont use ati.
[03:43] <usr13> raven_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042575
[03:43] <iml> marta: what julian-delphiki said
[03:45] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/174461/amd-binary-driver-fails-to-initialize-graphics-card-any-ideas
[03:46] <raven_> um
[03:46] <Dionist> Is this the Ubuntu help channel?
[03:46] <jacob1618> hi
[03:46] <raven_> that link doesnt really explaiin how to do it..
[03:47] <bazhang> Dionist, yes
[03:47] <julian-delphiki> _raven:  By updating the BIOS / firmware on my Asus P8Z77-V Motherboard, the integrated graphics no longer appeared in the lspci output and is now completely disabled.
[03:47] <Dionist> Alright. Anyone here know how to work with conky? I've been trying to get mine to work, but none of the solutions I've googled seems to help.
[03:48] <bazhang> Dionist, have you read the conky beginners guide?
[03:48] <apsassin> hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.10 through an hdmi to my tv andd have no sound. In sound settings there is no option Hdmi option only digital or analogue. neither gives me any sound
[03:49] <apsassin> any ideas?
[03:49] <marta> julian-delphiki, i had to take off from source.list the "7" ?
[03:49] <marta> julian-delphiki, i had to take off from source.list the "/" ?
[03:49] <Dionist> bazhang Link me just so I can make sure if I've read it or not.
[03:49] <julian-delphiki> marta: yes, remove the "/" after ubuntu
[03:49] <bazhang> Dionist, just a moment
[03:49] <marta> moment i try immediatly
[03:50] <usr13> apsassin: http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[03:50] <Dionist> bazhang It's a custom config I downloaded, but when run in terminal, it says that three of the configuration files are invalid. I'm concerned if the files are corrupt or something.
[03:50] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky   Dionist
[03:50] <apsassin> thanks usr 13 i will go through that.
[03:51] <apsassin> it should work the same for 12.10?
[03:51] <raven_> i cant find any install guides for my 7950
[03:51] <usr13> apsassin: I dono
[03:52] <marta> doesn't work, now my source.list look like: http://pastebin.com/index/aS6ca7LG
[03:52] <julian-delphiki> marta: what does it do now/
[03:52] <marta> same error
[03:52] <julian-delphiki> doubtful
[03:53] <raven_> -_-
[03:53] <Rabblerouser> I tried running Linux through an external USB hard drive, but get this http://i.imgur.com/sbXBr9c.jpg
[03:53] <Rabblerouser> It sort of hangs there
[03:53] <marta> i taked off from mirror.list too because it show me triple "///"
[03:53] <julian-delphiki> marta... i don't think that apt-mirror uses /etc/sources.list
[03:54] <julian-delphiki> mirror.list, i think
[03:54] <usr13> apsassin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/219990/no-sound-over-hdmi-12-10-amd-a4-5300-apu-msi-fm-a55m-e33 ?
[03:54] <marta> /etc/apt/mirro.list is the configuration file of apt-mirror
[03:54] <php42> if you have an AMD gfx card, good luck :)
[03:55] <marta> and now look like: http://pastebin.com/Qjam0NNW
[03:55] <julian-delphiki> marta: isn't that what you already linked me?
[03:55] <marta> no was source.list
[03:55] <julian-delphiki> [21:52] <marta> doesn't work, now my source.list look like: http://pastebin.com/index/aS6ca7LG
[03:55] <julian-delphiki> well
[03:56] <marta> i posted both
[03:56] <julian-delphiki> well your sources.list is very wrong
[03:56] <julian-delphiki> it looks the same as your mirror.list
[03:56] <marta> whats wrong on my source.list?
[03:57] <Dionist> bazhang I think I had to rename the filename. It won't let me restart the conky itself so let me quickly log out and in. I'll get back to report.
[03:57] <julian-delphiki> marta: the entire ### CONFIG ### block... that isn't supposed to be there
[03:57] <julian-delphiki> marta: nor the clean lines.
[03:57] <Rabblerouser> Can anyone help me just get Ubuntu to run?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Rabblerouser, maybe.  details?
[03:59] <Rabblerouser> I posted above. http://i.imgur.com/sbXBr9c.jpg It stops here. I'm trying to boot off an external.
[04:00] <julian-delphiki> marta: your /etc/sources list should be all of 3 lines. http://pastebin.com/ai8eJwjd or similar
[04:00] <Rabblerouser> Not sure if Ubuntu sharing space with PC backups on my external would cause that
[04:00] <Dionist_> bazhang I'm back. And no, it wasn't the file name.
[04:00] <Seven_Six_Two> I just purchased a new 2TB sata drive, and it's not showing up...
[04:01] <Seven_Six_Two> took all other drives out, and booted from usb
[04:01] <php42> hello, how do i restore incremental backups that i've backed up to s3 using backup-manager ?
[04:01] <marta> i follow that guide:  http://unixrob.blogspot.it/2012/05/create-apt-mirror-with-ubuntu-1204-lts.html
[04:01] <Dionist_> bazhang Nothing in the guide you gave me explains the invalid configuration errors. Although now I have a new error.
[04:02] <julian-delphiki> marta: well, you didn't, because that says nothing about modifying /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:02] <Dionist_>  Conky: invalid configuration file '/home/dion/.conkyrc'  Conky: missing text block in configuration; exiting ***** Imlib2 Developer Warning ***** : 	This program is calling the Imlib call:  	imlib_context_free();  	With the parameter:  	context  	being NULL. Please fix your program.
[04:02] <bazhang> Dionist_, well it was a custom config. so make your own that is not problematic
[04:03] <Dionist_> How about anyone else who can actually *help* rather than just "Here's a guide! ....oh. Then download something different or make your own."
[04:04] <julian-delphiki> Dionist_: no one here will probably be able to troubleshoot a custom conky config
[04:04] <b_> i just tried to `mv` a dir and it failed with the error msg, 'Directory not empty' what is this about?
[04:04] <OerHeks> Dionist_, how could we help, if we have not seen your conky script ? use paste.ubuntu.com for multiple lines
[04:05] <Dionist_> julian-delphiki Even if I link to said config package?
[04:05] <marta> here is described my same error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-mirror/+bug/977278
[04:05] <marta> and here a fix for a bug but i'm not a programmer so i don't want to manage code directly: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682395
[04:05] <bazhang> Dionist_, the guide is how to understand making conky work, contact the custom config maker if you have issues. the guide itself is not a panacea for any and all custom configs out there
[04:06] <Rabblerouser> :/ Hm.. thanks anyways.
[04:06] <julian-delphiki> marta: are you using ARM?
[04:06] <marta> nono
[04:06] <marta> i386
[04:06] <marta> is only the same error found on google
[04:06] <julian-delphiki> then its unlikely that something being wrong with a regex that detects ARM will matter
[04:06] <marta> i cannot find out something other
[04:07] <SnapSnap> Hi, I downloaded an icon theme but don't know how to apply it.
[04:07] <julian-delphiki> marta: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=991425 i could
[04:07] <Dionist_> Hrm. Very well. Still feels like nobody really tried. Maker's good as gone, so guess I'm stuck with looking for something else.
[04:07] <bazhang> Dionist_, did you give us a link to said custom config? or even pastebin it as requested?
[04:08] <Dionist_> http://laserbeam3.deviantart.com/art/Conky-empowered-desktop-168092656
[04:08] <Dionist_> bazhang Why? You yourself told me to go off and contact the maker instead.
[04:09] <Dionist_> bazhang Link's up there though.
[04:09] <julian-delphiki> Dionist_: did you read the readme in the zip?
[04:10] <Dionist_> julian-delphiki I'm not such a moron that I'd go here before reading and trying everything I know myself first. Yes, I did. I followed everything to the letter, and it doesn't explain the error.
[04:11] <marta> sigh... doesn't work...
[04:13] <julian-delphiki> marta: i can look at it if you give me an ssh login
[04:14] <marta> i try
[04:16] <raven_> how do i install a .run file?
[04:16] <julian-delphiki> Dionist_: even the creater says that he doesn't know how to make it work
[04:17] <jman> hello
[04:17] <jman> anybody around? i need some help un-grubbing
[04:18] <julian-delphiki> jman: people are around, ask your questions
[04:18] <jman> so yeah i had ubuntu booting successfully after doing a wubi and for some reason today i got a grub prompt
[04:19] <jman> grub 1.99
[04:19] <jman> i tried doing
[04:19] <jman> insmod part_msdos
[04:19] <jman> insmod ext2
[04:19] <jman> set root=(hd0, msdos1)
[04:19] <jman> linux vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1
[04:19] <jman> that command
[04:19] <IdleOne> marta: I strongly recommend not giving ssh access to your computer to strangers. it is a big sedurity risk
[04:19] <jman> gave me
[04:20] <IdleOne> !enter | jman
[04:20] <jman> invalid file name: 'vmlinux'
[04:20] <julian-delphiki> IdleOne: fortunately i'm just trying to help, i'm a sysadmin by trade.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> jman, why wubi?  wubi is for TESTING ubuntu according to the developers.  It is not intended as a long term storage option.  Better to virtualbox or, ideally, dual boot ...
[04:21] <IdleOne> julian-delphiki: I am sorry if you took my recommendation as an insult and I am sure you have good intentions, but still my recommendation stands.
[04:21] <jman> sorry what was your recommendation? and how would i set up a dual boot? i'm a total n00b to this stuff
[04:22] <kewel> I have an old machine, should I use lubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[04:22] <julian-delphiki> IdleOne: no big deal,
[04:22] <Abhijit> kewel, how old?
[04:22] <kewel> PIII 1GHz 512MB
[04:22] <kewel> ubuntu 10.04 runs kinda choppy
[04:23] <IdleOne> julian-delphiki: thanks for understanding. in this channel we ask for screenshots, pastebins, but we don't ever recommend giving access to ones system.
[04:23] <dr_willis> lubuntu for thgat low end a system
[04:23] <cfhowlett> kewel, 10.04 is EOL very soon.
[04:23] <kewel> ya, I know
[04:23] <cfhowlett> kewel, lubuntu or xubuntu suggested
[04:23] <julian-delphiki> IdleOne: yeah, i've hung around here long enough to know that. I just figure i can probably fix this one quickly.
[04:24] <kewel> ya .. I used my last blank cdr for lubuntu 12.10 x86 inst .. but it locks up .. gonna try the alt inst when I get a disc
[04:24] <dr_willis> there is no alt for 12.10
[04:24] <kewel> I found a couple hits on google that say 12.10 uses more ram than 12.04
[04:24] <Abhijit> kewel, http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
[04:24] <Abhijit> kewel, look into this http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Old+Computers
[04:24] <dr_willis> 12.10 wants PAE enabled hardware also
[04:25] <dr_willis> a PIII may not have that
[04:25] <cfhowlett> kewel, not USB?
[04:25] <jman> wait so...ungrubbing how
[04:25] <cfhowlett> kewel, you can direct upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04
[04:25] <kewel> ya there is -- http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/quantal/release/
[04:25] <Nautilus> I know that filesize and 'size on disk' don't always match, but a 7.4M file that takes 59.3M? What's up with that?
[04:25] <kewel> fifth link down
[04:26] <kewel> dr_willis: the pae thing, does 12.04 work?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, that ain't right ...
[04:28] <OerHeks> kewel that url is lxde - Lubuntu, not ubuntu with gnome
[04:28] <noobatlife> I am using wine to get office 2010 installed ony my 64 bit machine
[04:28] <raven_> when i try to install the ati driver it makes a log file that says this Package build failed!
[04:28] <raven_> Package build utility output:
[04:28] <raven_> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 294: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: debclean: not found
[04:28] <raven_> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: 295: ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: dpkg-buildpackage: not found
[04:28] <raven_> [Error] Generate Package - error generating package : Ubuntu/quantal
[04:28] <FloodBot1> raven_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <noobatlife> but it says installation failed
[04:28] <SnapSnap> Hi, I downloaded an icon theme but don't know how to apply it.
[04:28] <raven_> sorry
[04:28] <noobatlife> I need office 2010 because my class requires heavy use of Microsoft Access
[04:29] <noobatlife> or Office 2007
[04:29] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: any ideas whats up?
[04:29] <dr_willis> !appdb | noobatlife
[04:29] <raven_> how do i get the packages debclean and dpkg-buildpackage
[04:29] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, no, but I have to ask, is this an ubuntu file?  or downloaded from ... elsewhere?
[04:29] <dr_willis> !find debclean
[04:30] <kewel> dr_willis: ya .. alt install not alt .. thanks for pointing that out.
[04:30] <dr_willis> !find dpkg-buildpackage
[04:31] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: It's an SQL file I just DL'd. When I saw that I deleted it and re-exported ... same result.  "ls" reports the 7.4, the UI says the Filesize is 7.4M and "Size On Disk" is 59.3M.
[04:32] <tekkbuzz> Does anyone know the apt command to find the "Not-Installed" pkg. containing some file?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> Nautilus, any way to hash check that file?  md5sum, something?
[04:32] <Nautilus> not that I know of
[04:32] <cfhowlett> tekkbuzz, apt-cache policy packagename
[04:33] <raven__> sorry i had a graphical glitch,.. all my windows turned into my background? i dont know what im doing.. how do i find packages?
[04:33] <tekkbuzz> cfhowlett: okay thanks, I'll try it.
[04:33] <dr_willis> raven__:  ubottu   | File debclean found in devscripts
[04:33] <cfhowlett> tekkbuzz, good luck
[04:33] <dr_willis> raven__:  ubottu   | File dpkg-buildpackage found in dpkg-dev, gitpkg, zsh, zsh-beta
[04:34] <raven__> i dont know what that means..
[04:34] <dr_willis> you asked where to find the 'debclean' thing.. its in the package 'devscripts' according to the bot.. who uses the apt commands t search the syste,m
[04:34] <GeminiDomino> Is it safe to mount /var with the "noexec" flag on 10.04 Server and/or 12.04 server?
[04:34] <tekkbuzz> cfhowlett: wait, I'm trying to find the packagename.
[04:35] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: the sql file seems intact and complete (looking at it in gedit)
[04:35] <raven__> -_- this is too complicated
[04:35] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: maybe just a bug in the UI?
[04:35] <Nautilus> cfhowlett: BTW I'm on 12.04 with LXDE
[04:36] <noobatlife> Sigh i give up. If i fail this course because of stupid ass need for Access then let it be. I am sick and tired of everything
[04:36] <dr_willis> bianca:   the apt system has numerous search features to find things.
[04:37] <tekkbuzz> cfhowlett: I need the packagename, I know the filename, but the package is Not installed.
[04:37] <dr_willis> tekkbuzz:  apt-file can help with that.
[04:37] <dr_willis> !info apt-file
[04:38] <bianca> cso i put sudo apt-get devscripts?
[04:38] <tekkbuzz> dr_willis: thanks
[04:39] <dr_willis> bianca:  'sudo apt-get install packagename'
[04:39] <Nautilus> is there a command line command to see the "size on disk" of a file?
[04:39] <dr_willis> !apt | bianca
[04:39] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  df and du,
[04:39] <CrazyZurfer> Holy jesusss, by mistake I did a sudo chmod 644 / and everything is breaking and burniing!! :(
[04:39] <dr_willis> CrazyZurfer:  i predict a reinstall is in your future
[04:39] <CrazyZurfer> I mean 644 -R
[04:39] <CrazyZurfer> Dr_willis: no waaay
[04:40] <CrazyZurfer> There must be other way
[04:40] <julian-delphiki> no
[04:40] <julian-delphiki> a reinstall is probably the only fix there
[04:40] <dr_willis> use live cd. chroot, use package system to reinstall EVERY package.. and hope it works...
[04:40] <CrazyZurfer> Once i read that something could be done with the live cd
[04:41] <dr_willis> depending on how  quickly you stopped the chmod command...
[04:41] <CrazyZurfer> Kind of quickly
[04:41] <Nautilus> dr_willis: df seems to be the filesystems, du says "7248    ."     does that mean approx 7.4M ?
[04:41] <dr_willis> with a SSD ;) that may not be very quick.
[04:41] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  du -h  for human readable.. see man du
[04:42] <CrazyZurfer> I've got an 5400 rpm :)
[04:42] <bianca> every time i  install what it wants, it says im missing something else
[04:42] <dr_willis> i would imagine reinstalling every package on the system (not sure how you would do that) would take quiet some time.
[04:42] <Nautilus> dr_willis: thanks, ok that says 7.1M   But 12.04/LXDE says 7.4M filesize, 59.3M for size on disk. UI bug?
[04:42] <dr_willis> bianca:  we dont know what you are doing..  give details.
[04:43] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  no idea. I would guess so.
[04:43] <bianca> Supported adapter detected.
[04:43] <bianca> Check if system has the tools required for installation.
[04:43] <bianca> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-22-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[04:43] <bianca> One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver.
[04:43] <bianca> Optionally, run the installer with --force option to install without the tools.
[04:43] <FloodBot1> bianca: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:43] <bianca> Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable. Not recommended.
[04:43] <CrazyZurfer> I stopped it in 10 secconds approx
[04:43] <Nautilus> dr_willis: ok thanks for the sanity check. du is probably the reliable one
[04:43] <bianca> accident! i ment to put a link http://pastebin.com/gDRw9Ddf
[04:43] <julian-delphiki> CrazyZurfer: i recommend backing up your home folder and reinstalling
[04:43] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  unless its some sort of sparse file.
[04:43] <Nautilus> dr_willis: an SQL dump (text file)
[04:44] <CrazyZurfer> Ok, i guess I'm reinstalling
[04:45] <dr_willis> theres no need to msg me bianca  i dont use ati drivers.. so have very little experence with them
[04:45] <dr_willis> the one ati ssytem i have - uses the open sourced drivers
[04:45] <bianca> do you know how i fix that error?
[04:45] <GeminiDomino> Any gotchas for mounting /var "noexec" on xorg-less Lucid or Precise servers?
[04:46] <dr_willis> fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.
[04:46] <dr_willis> !headers
[04:46] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)    to install headers..
[04:46] <marta> thanks a lot julian-delphiki
[04:48] <bianca> it says i dont need it
[04:50] <saimanoj> @justvenky: hi
[04:50] <bianca> http://pastebin.com/GvbPFGbN
[04:50] <saimanoj> @just_venky: hi
[04:50] <julian-delphiki> bianca... uname -r
[04:50] <julian-delphiki> not raven -r
[04:50] <just_venky> @saimanoj
[04:51] <just_venky> @saimanoj: bolo
[04:51] <bianca> ohh thank you!
[04:51] <bianca> im a doofus ^_~
[04:52] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx   may have a clearer guide
[04:53] <bianca> it worked! thanks guys
[04:54] <noobatlife> Ok
[04:55] <noobatlife> Is it possible to install microsoft office 2010 using Vmware on linux ubuntu?
[04:55] <noobatlife> Is there a way i  can get a small minimalist version of windows to use?
[04:55] <noobatlife> I wouldnt go to these lengths just for Access
[04:55] <noobatlife> Its because of my school
[04:55] <noobatlife> They rely on windows products too much
[04:56] <noobatlife> I live in a country that doesnt even know that linux exist
[04:56] <dr_willis> noobatlife:  you install the OS into the virtual machine. such as Vbox or vware. then install the app on the Virtual OS in the vm.
[04:56] <dr_willis> noobatlife:  so it should work
[04:56] <noobatlife> Exacly dr willis
[04:56] <noobatlife> But i need a minimalist version of windows
[04:56] <dr_willis> noobatlife:  so Yes its possible. -
[04:56] <noobatlife> the pain of downloading a whole OS
[04:56] <bianca> dr willis, i have an 8core cpu, do i ineed to install something so ubuntu uses it properly?
[04:56] <dr_willis> Thats not really a ubuntu support issue. ;)
[04:57] <noobatlife> internet speed is slow
[04:57] <noobatlife> Yes it is
[04:57] <dr_willis> bianca:  Not that i would know of.. ubuntu has been multi core friendly for years
[04:57] <noobatlife> OK
[04:57] <noobatlife> I will do some google searching around
[04:57] <bianca> :2 okie
[04:57] <noobatlife> If i cant get anything I will call it a day
[04:57] <noobatlife> makes no sense killing out myself
[04:58] <dr_willis> some speciffic apps may not use all cores. but  it depends on the exact ap
[04:58] <bianca> its the amd 8core not the i7 4 core with hyperthreading
[04:58] <dr_willis> I doubt if it matters much. ive not herd of anything special needed for the current generation cpus.
[04:59] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[04:59] <dr_willis> test it with a live cd and see if it works. ;)
[04:59] <bianca> i dunno.. i spent alot of money on my pc and i feel as if its being waisted in linux..
[04:59] <bianca> like i went and got the bestamd motherboard and cpu and fast ram
[04:59] <dr_willis> If you bought a system for Linux and specifically got an ATI card.. you should have done some more research
[05:00] <dr_willis> 'cutting edge/just came out hardware' is the most problematic  to deal with.
[05:00] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499, greetings
[05:00] <bianca> no.. lol i have an nvidia laptop and ubuntu wonteven install on it cause of the graphics card
[05:00] <dr_willis> stuff that has been out for a few months to a year. are often no hassles.
[05:00] <dr_willis> I have no issues with my 4 nvidia systems.
[05:00] <dr_willis> The nvidia-optimus stuff is a problem area however. I dont own one of those
[05:01] <bianca> ohh mine is, its a 555m
[05:01] <dr_willis> #'s like that dont mean much to me. I dont keep up with latest hardware any more :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> not much point in it when im doing linux on most all my machines
[05:01] <dr_willis> i look for 'best value for the $$ and best linux compatiabilty' when buying new hardware
[05:02] <bianca> well i guess i can virtualise windows as a 4core with 8 gigs of ram >_<
[05:02] <bianca> thats only half my system so
[05:02] <dr_willis> I rarely even need to boot to windows these days.
[05:02] <bianca> i play games :3
[05:02] <dr_willis> when i do.. its like a backlog of 5+mo of updates.
[05:02] <Nautilus> in 12.04, where would I likely find the default php.ini ?
[05:03] <dr_willis> Nautilus:  try 'locate php.ini'
[05:03] <dr_willis> I imagine my Next PC will be one of those Valve Steam Pistons. ;) if they ever come out.
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> so I recently turned my netbook into a wifi router because my current one is old, had a broken antenna, and data seemed slow.  Everything is great but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to open ports, my setup looks pretty much like the stuff I got from this guide with the exception of static ip for 2 computers in dhcpd.conf http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> point/
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> my netbook runs 12.04
[05:05] <noobatlife_> Which virtualization software is better? Virtual Box or Vmware?
[05:05] <ShapeShifter499> yes I have tried iptables with no seeming luck
[05:05] <bianca> how do you turn a netbook into a router? lol
[05:06] <ShapeShifter499> bianca, http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point/
[05:06] <Nautilus> dr_willis: I don't seem to have a default one, would that be normal? I have 17 in backups of live sites, one in docs named php.ini-development, then in usr/share/php5 there are php.ini-production, -production-dist, -production.cli
[05:07] <user02938> I used ubuntu 12.04 mini .iso (non-pae net installer) to install "ubuntu lxde desktop". Problem is my d-link dwa-125 wireless USB doesn't work with lxde but it works fine with kubuntu desktop. Why?
[05:07] <noobatlife_> Which virtualization software is better? Virtual Box or Vmware?
[05:07] <Buddy> Howdy everyone
[05:08] <Buddy> is there a better channel for those of us who are totally and completely new to Ubuntu and Linux in general? lol
[05:08] <upset> used WinUSB to try and write a live Windows usb, didn't work and want to clear it for something else but it's acting weird. umount doesn't think it's mounted.
[05:08] <Nautilus> noobatlife_: put it this way, those are the best 2. Give one a go
[05:09] <upset> sudo mkfs.vfat -n 'Label' -I /dev/sdc thinks that it's busy
[05:09] <noobatlife_> Nautilus loves crashing for no reason as well
[05:09] <user02938> Buddy, well this is a help room for ubuntu/linux
[05:10] <Nautilus> don't look at me, I'm just the friendly neighboorhood cephalopod
[05:10] <Nautilus> noobatlife_: ^
[05:10] <Buddy> thanks User... just figured you might be more into helping people with specific issues who have a vague idea of how to get around Linux
[05:10] <Buddy> I am brand new to it just starting to explore and know absolutely NOTHING! lol
[05:11] <Rich787> How do you pass arguments to a ./configure script? I tried the following: ./configure --with-apr <directory> and it says "invalid value of canonical build"
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Buddy, use the forums ... beginner section
[05:13] <Nautilus> would usr/share/php5/ be an appropriate place to put a default php.ini file?
[05:13] <Buddy> thanks cfhowlett
[05:13] <Nautilus> Buddy: first guess, it may not be mounted
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Buddy, no problem.  have fun, be safe.
[05:13] <Seven_Six_Two> woot! VT8237 and SATAIII is best described by a series of 4 letter words.
[05:14] <Buddy> oh thanks Nautilus... I actually am having no problems. Up and running well just figured IRC would be a great way to dive into a little trial and error and explore the system...
[05:14] <Buddy> where I can get a little interaction and feedback. ; ) thanks for offering such a quick help idea though
[05:15] <Seven_Six_Two> I jumpered my 6Gb/s drive to 3Gb/s. Aside from flat out not working, is there a reason not to undo it after install?
[05:15] <Nautilus> Buddy: this is a good place. hang around, be patient, etc
[05:16] <Seven_Six_Two> I have 2 sata controllers. the first is via, and it won't work with my drive. I jumpered while connected to that controller. Then I switched to another controller, and it works, but is still jumpered.
[05:16] <Buddy> lol thanks much Nautilus. Just saw 1622 total users in channel and figured this might not be the one to be flooding with total newbie kind of stuff lol
[05:16] <Nautilus> Buddy: it's the general chat channel
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Buddy, it's not busy in here now, so don't be shy.
[05:17] <Rabblerouser> Am I correct in assuming you can only install 4GB of Linux onto an external USB?
[05:17] <upset> Again, weird flash drive. Says it isn't mounted even though I can look at file contents, when I go to format it it says it's busy. I need to clear it outl
[05:17] <Buddy> lol thanks Seven : )
[05:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, what do you mean by "4GB of Linux"
[05:18] <Rabblerouser> The pendrive installer. Says I can only go up to ~4000MB
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, you can have partitions larger than that, and you can use usb drives that are whole, or partitioned.
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Rabblerouser, since the USB is going to boot into ram, I believe you'd be more concerned with that ...
[05:18] <yoga> Hi, there. How do I install grub 2 boot loader onto a partition(/dev/sda3)?
[05:18] <Nautilus> upset: huh, have you tried a reboot?
[05:18] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, 32 bit?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !grub|yogo
[05:19] <Rabblerouser> I realized something was wrong when I loaded up Steam on Linux and saw I only had ~300MB space left
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, how large is your usb drive/partitions?
[05:19] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, is that the partitioner that's giving that limit?
[05:20] <Rabblerouser> Seven_Six_Two: 500GB total. But the Ubuntu partition is 395GB
[05:20] <Rabblerouser> The other partition is my PS3's backup :)
[05:21] <yoga> sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 will not do it, it won't allow to do that.
[05:21] <elise0001>  Donloaded newest stable version of Ubuntu. Having trouble burning it to a CD. Any advice. On my Ubuntu system, which has problems.
[05:21] <Seven_Six_Two> Rabblerouser, where did the pendrive installer come from?
[05:22] <cfhowlett> elise0001, did you md5sum check the iso?
[05:22] <cfhowlett> elise0001, and no USB boot?
[05:22] <Rabblerouser> It's the one linked from the Ubuntu page. pendrivelinux.com, apparently
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> elise0001, what kind of problems? Have you tried both k3b and brasero?
[05:23] <yoga> the command grub-setup is not found, any idea?
[05:23] <cfhowlett> yoga, just reinstall grub to the target drive ... should be /dev/sda
[05:24] <replica> how do i upgrade my ubuntu 12.10 to ubuntu 13.04
[05:24] <Rabblerouser> Seven_Six_Two: The pendrive installer is the one linked from Ubuntu, from pendrivelinux.com (sorry if you read before, I forgot to address your name :S)
[05:24] <replica> help with th commands if u can plz
[05:24] <replica> me*
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1|replica, you DO know 13.04 is BETA right?
[05:26] <replica> oh !
[05:28] <replica> ubottu i was browsing omg ubuntu and thy got lots of previews on 13.04 beta the animations look cool any help on how to get those for my 12.10 ? does sudo do-release-upgrade -d help to do tht
[05:28] <replica> lol
[05:28] <cfhowlett> replica, go to #ubuntu+1 for that
[05:28] <fafaliel> backend_version = wx.VERSION_STRING
[05:28] <fafaliel> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERSION_STRING'
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise
[05:29] <fafaliel> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[05:29] <fafaliel> NAME="Ubuntu"
[05:29] <FloodBot1> fafaliel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <Buddy> lol.... tempermental little bot isn't it?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> Buddy, just doin the job it's assigned.
[05:30] <Rabblerouser> Seven_Six_Two, still there?
[05:30] <dr_willis> "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" would have been enough ;)
[05:31] <yoga> cfhowlett: I wan't to reinstall grub to /dev/sda3 which is where my Ubuntu is install, the rease being is that (long story), when I install Ubuntu and during choose which location to instal the grub2 bootloader, I choose the /dev/sda, then I install another boot loader software Chameleon which cannot see Ubuntu there (no bootloader in /dev/sda3) unless I install grub2 bootloader on /dev/sda3.
[05:31] <fafaliel> Help with package python-wxgtk2.8 : backend_version = wx.VERSION_STRING
[05:31] <fafaliel> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERSION_STRING'
[05:31] <vhadil> hy how to fix this, i use ubuntu 10.10 http://dpaste.com/886397/
[05:31] <cfhowlett> yoga, ok, so boot an ubuntu live cd/usb and install grub where you want it.
[05:31] <dr_willis> Software Chameleon - cant even find a Ubuntu Install.. ;)
[05:32] <TheLordOfTime> !10.10 | vhadil, 10.10's end of life...
[05:32]  * cfhowlett suspects hackintosh/triple boot 
[05:32] <dr_willis> !eol | vhadil
[05:32] <vhadil> so how to fix my problem
[05:32] <Buddy> howlett : )
[05:32] <cfhowlett> vhadil, time to upgrade to a supported version.  I suggest 12.04
[05:33] <tacorwin> Is it a bad idea to use Ubuntu 12.04 Live from a USB on a daily basis?
[05:33] <yoga> cfhowlett: without reinstall the whole Ubuntu again? Just the grub2, how?
[05:34] <Rabblerouser> What is the "persistent file" on a Live USB install?
[05:34] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, BAD idea?  no.  just be careful when shutting down the usb or it will scramble.
[05:34] <fafaliel> Can't anybody answer my python package question??
[05:34] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  thats a place it saves changes and user data files to
[05:34] <cfhowlett> yoga, I think it's sudo grub-install and the grub update to write the changes.
[05:34] <cfhowlett> fafaliel,  ask in #python
[05:34] <cfhowlett> fafaliel, oh, wait. sorry.  wrong response.
[05:34] <Rabblerouser> dr_willis So basically that's my "free space" on a Live USB install? And I can have, at max, 4 GB?
[05:35] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  depens on the size of your usb
[05:35] <Rabblerouser> My USB has room for plenty. :) Though I only wanted to try 160GB
[05:35] <Rabblerouser> It's an external HDD
[05:35] <vhadil> damn, reinstal
[05:35] <yoga> cfhowlett: grub-install will not allow me to install to a partical partition, that is sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 will fail!
[05:35] <tacorwin> cfhowlett: What do you mean?
[05:36] <kmon> Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for
[05:36] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  using a live install on a external HD is a little  limiting. You can do a full normal install to a external USB Hd.
[05:36] <kmon> pls help " Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for"
[05:36] <cfhowlett> vhadil, that package doesn't show up in the repos and I've got ALL universes enabled.  I'm guessing you built from source?
[05:36] <Rabblerouser> dr_willis: and how would I do that?
[05:36] <dr_willis> kmon:  we dont really know what you are asking.
[05:36] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  same as you install to a internal HD. Just be sure grub goes to the external HD
[05:37] <Rabblerouser> grub?
[05:37] <dr_willis> !grub
[05:37] <BlackWeb> I've been running into this problem ever since I installed 12.04, with the Login Screen Wallpaper, I installed a Package with Edubuntu, & ever since the login screen has been a Picture of a Satellite & a guy in the ground, I've tried Changing permissions in /usr/share/backgrounds/ No worky, I tried Erasing all the edubuntu wallpapers inside folder and login screen is just blue background, But when I go into Ubuntu tweak its showing
[05:37] <BlackWeb>  the one I selected as the one set but its not using it, Does Edubuntu Package overwrite Ubunut tweak or where is the setting for this?
[05:38] <Rabblerouser> The thing is, I'm just trying Ubuntu out. I don't really know how to even start the process of this
[05:38] <BlackWeb> Almost about to reinstall the whole system but seems like overkill for a wallpaper
[05:38] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:    i normally install from a live-usb-flash to a real external USB HD..
[05:38] <cfhowlett> BlackWeb, /ubuntu tweak/  you're managing your ubuntu system with a NON-repo and non-ubuntu product.  Expect unforeseen consequences.
[05:39] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  or just not worry about a trivial login wallpaper.
[05:39] <wing_> hi
[05:39] <cfhowlett> wing_, greetings
[05:39] <dr_willis> BlackWeb:  could be its not using lightdm also.
[05:39] <Rabblerouser> dr_willis: Ubuntu will give me the option to select which drive to install to?
[05:39] <fafaliel> apt package for wxPython => AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'VERSION_STRING' ?
[05:39] <wing_> thanks, could someone please help me fix internet?
[05:39] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  yes. theres a custome install section
[05:39] <dr_willis> wing_:  thats a little vague.. give more details
[05:40] <wing_> i think my DNS not working
[05:40] <BlackWeb> Alright I'll try, reinstalling & leave out the edubuntu package
[05:40] <cfhowlett> fafaliel, ask in #python as well.  That package isn't part of ubuntu ...
[05:40] <BlackWeb> Thanks for Help everyone
[05:40] <cfhowlett> wing_, why?
[05:40] <wing_> i did upgrade to quantal and now it connects to wireless but doesn't work in browser
[05:40] <dr_willis> wing_:  but IRC works?
[05:40] <wing_> this is different computer
[05:40] <Rabblerouser> Hm.. I'll see if I can get the process started now. Thanks. I'll hit you up if it don't work.
[05:41] <cfhowlett> wing_, wired uses DNS to search internet names ....
[05:41] <wing_> yeah I'm not sure that's where the problem is
[05:41] <cfhowlett> BlackWeb, try sudo apt-get purge edubuntu
[05:41] <cfhowlett> wing_,  if your wired can see the internet, it's NOT  a DNS issue.
[05:41] <wing_> it's a little strange since it connects fine to the router but can't seem to get to the internet
[05:41] <tacorwin> Is it a bad idea to use Ubuntu 12.04 Live from a USB on a daily basis? (I already asked, but didnt get a clear responce
[05:42] <wing_> it's wireless
[05:42] <yoga> So my question would be: How do I reinstall grub on a partition instead of on the drive, while grub-install /dev/sda3 failed?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> tacorwin if you need daily ubuntu, you can install virtualbox in win and put ubuntu on that ... safely
[05:42] <wing_> i really don't know where to start for something like this cfhowlett so I came here
[05:42] <cfhowlett> wing_, understood.
[05:43] <user02938> tarcorwin, from past experience, ubuntu on usb runs horribly slow and updates can fail.  Might depend on the quality and speed of your usb
[05:43] <dr_willis> yoga:  what was the exact command you used?
[05:43] <cfhowlett> wing_, does your wifi indicator light up?  and what is your hardware?
[05:43] <tacorwin> cfhowlett: My main issue is that i have a portable computer, but i cant install it because the flash memory is all corrupted from extended use.
[05:44] <wing_> yeah it connects fine, it's a vaio, the light is on, everything seems cool until I open browser and it acts like it's not connected
[05:44] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, ummm, we cannot work around hardware failures with software.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, so I guess USB is the way to go
[05:45] <dr_willis> wing_:  start with a ping test. to see if you can ping the local pcs and google.com and the router.
[05:45] <bianca> now that humans have left chernoble, animals have moved in and calling it home >_< :( kinda sad that its hurting them though
[05:45] <dr_willis> wing_:  ping google.com   in a tutorial.
[05:45] <tacorwin> will i be able to run sudo apt-get update?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, I wouldn't.
[05:45] <dr_willis> in a terminal. ;)
[05:46] <julian-delphiki> bianca: this is a support channel..
[05:46] <wing_> i tried that it says unknown host
[05:46] <bianca> im supporting!
[05:46] <dr_willis> wing_:  now try 'ping 8.8.8.8'
[05:46] <wing_> i can ping my router though
[05:46] <tacorwin> cfhowlett: okay, just checking.
[05:46] <julian-delphiki> bianca: not by talking about chernobyl
[05:47] <cfhowlett> tacorwin, the biggest problems I've hard are updates and accidentally yanking the USB before uubntu shuts down.  The latter will scramble your system.
[05:47] <bianca> im educating
[05:47] <wing_> ok ping 8.8.8.8 works fine also
[05:47] <julian-delphiki> bianca, no
[05:47] <dr_willis> wing_:  so these tests point to you not having a proper DNS server setup.
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !ot|bianca,
[05:47] <bianca> julian, yes :3
[05:47] <thomedy> quick question... i have been doing very well... as of late... however i m still fairly new at this i have an overflow of work and handing it off to people ... i have  a list of contacts that im pretty confident in to take my over flow ... here is my question... im now taking on the roll of project management as well as developper which is awesome i have a contract i have to bid on but before i can bid on it i need some psd's is it reaso
[05:47] <thomedy> nable to ask my overflow people to give me a mockup to send my potential client ... my goal is to ask 3 or so of my overflows for mockups and get their quote on time and price and then send it to my client and then choose...
[05:47] <julian-delphiki> bianca: you even spelled chernobyl wrong.
[05:47] <thomedy> okay thats it is that reasonable
[05:47] <yoga> dr_willis: sudo grub-install /dev/sda3
[05:47] <dr_willis> wing_:  8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are googles free DNS servers. You can use the network config tools to set them as your default dns servers
[05:47] <bianca> at least i made an effort :3
[05:47] <wing_> yeah, I don't see anywhere to change dns settings
[05:47] <thomedy> dam... sorry im not where i thought i was
[05:47] <cfhowlett> thomedy, nothing to do with ubuntu and wrong channel...
[05:48] <thomedy> no i just realized where i was my bad
[05:48] <yoga> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding.w
[05:48] <yoga> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[05:48] <yoga> /usr/sbin/grub-bios-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> wing_, any chance the problem is on the router side?  i.e. set to reject unknown/new wireless connections?
[05:48] <CrazyZurfer> :'( is there a way to see all installed software in my ubuntu in order to download them later  after reinstalling ubuntu?
[05:48] <intestino> hi, greeting from Indonesia!
[05:49] <wing_> cfhowlett, no I think it's a DNS thing
[05:49] <dr_willis> !clone | CrazyZurfer
[05:49] <cfhowlett> CrazyZurfer, yes.  wait one.
[05:49] <cfhowlett> intestino, greetings
[05:49] <wing_> I'll lookup how to change that
[05:49] <wing_> thanks for your help dr and cf
[05:50] <cfhowlett> wing_, good luck,
[05:54] <CrazyZurfer> How do you guys do the simple quote with us keyboard?
[05:54] <dr_willis> simple quote? Single Quote?  ' ' ' '
[05:54] <dr_willis> its right there next to the enter key. ;)
[05:55] <dr_willis> " ' " ' "  jkl;'
[05:55] <CrazyZurfer> Thanks
[05:55] <CrazyZurfer> Ubuntu loaded with us desktop :)
[05:55]  * cfhowlett where's the 'ANY' key?
[05:55] <CrazyZurfer> Us keyboard i mean
[05:55]  * dr_willis writes ANY on cfhowlett's delete key
[05:56] <Klownicle> Can someone help me, im getting a "db5 error(-30969) Database Enviroment Vers.ion Mismatch" when attempting to install a package.  I just recently upgraded to 11.10
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Klownicle, what package is causing this error
[05:56] <omabena> hello
[05:56] <dr_willis> how did you upgrade?
[05:56] <Klownicle> Googleing around mentions to remove any old files in \var\lib\rpm then rebuild, but its not working.
[05:56] <Klownicle> I did a inplace upgrade via the update.
[05:57] <omabena> any of you guys, know how can I install xmllint
[05:57] <dr_willis> !find xmllint
[05:57] <Klownicle> Its an acronis backup package I had been using previously before upgrade.
[05:57] <dr_willis> xmllint
[05:57] <dr_willis> Usage : xmllint [options] XMLfiles
[05:57] <dr_willis> Its installed here.. ;) no idea what package it came from
[05:58] <jtrucks> does the postfixadmin .deb work correctly with 12.04?
[05:58] <dr_willis> if you just type 'xmllint' it may tell you
[05:58] <omabena> mmm it's not installed by default right?
[05:58] <dr_willis> No idea.
[05:59] <dr_willis> if you want to install it.. :) its aparently not installed..  so i guess not.
[05:59] <mysteriousdaren> disappointing playdeb is dead :(
[05:59] <dr_willis> Never really used it.
[06:00] <omabena> well yeah, just installed that packages libxml2 something and it's there
[06:00] <omabena> thanks for echoing that!
[06:00] <mysteriousdaren> well I preferred it to ubuntu software center, for many not official packages
[06:01] <Klownicle> Anyone able to help me out?  Google isn't being too helpful :-/
[06:01] <CrazyZurfer> Abou clone dr_willis the terminal from the live cd says that I dont have installed aptitude and cant install it :(
[06:02] <Seven_Six_Two> I just noticed that I have no sound (tray icon shows --). HP g60 laptop. I use it for school, and it's normally muted so I don't know when it got stuck that way
[06:03] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, left click on the sound icon and unmute
[06:03] <Adirolfx> Anyone know of a way to adjust contrast on Lenovo Thinkpad?  I can adjust brightness, but can't figure out contrast
[06:04] <Rabblerouser> Weird. Tried starting the Live USB with a 4GB persistent file, but it just hung there
[06:04] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, that's not an option in the menu that appears. Only the slider (can't move), rhythmbox applet, audacious shortcut, and sound settings.
[06:04] <jtrucks> hmm. apparently it does.
[06:05] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, nothing listed in settings >> play sound through
[06:05] <CrazyZurfer> Daaamn!
[06:05] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, run a terminal;  pavucontrol
[06:05] <CrazyZurfer> Sorry for cursing :(
[06:06] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, connection to pulseaudio failed. retrying in 5s
[06:06] <CrazyZurfer> Any way to get my files back from live cd when ubuntu files got a 644 chmod?
[06:06] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, also run the alsamixer in terminal and check your settings
[06:07] <bean> CrazyZurfer: you could chmod +x /path/to/executable
[06:07] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, I started pulseaudio service, now pavu says establishing connection to PA. please wait.
[06:08] <CrazyZurfer> Bean I stupidly did "sudo chmod 644 -R /"
[06:08] <bean> CrazyZurfer, I know.
[06:08] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, those are fine
[06:09] <CrazyZurfer> And what do you mean by path to executable
[06:09] <Seven_Six_Two> pavu is still trying to connect to pulse
[06:09] <cfhowlett> Seven_Six_Two, I guess you already tried rebooting?
[06:09] <bean> CrazyZurfer: So you could make everything executable so you can at least run things
[06:09] <Seven_Six_Two> cfhowlett, as a last resort!
[06:10] <bean> CrazyZurfer: so you could do chmod +x -R /
[06:10] <bean> CrazyZurfer, and that would be slightly less unfucked
[06:10] <CrazyZurfer> Or chmod +x -R /media/ubuntu because Im on live cd now
[06:11] <bean> CrazyZurfer: yep
[06:11] <bean> it might still not work
[06:11] <bean> could try though
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> That's cool :)
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> May I ask a question?
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> No
[06:12] <CrazyZurfer> Nothing
[06:13] <CrazyZurfer> Srry xd
[06:13] <wing_> does ubuntu default to these two DNS servers? 68.94.156.1 and 68.94.157.1
[06:14] <SwedeMike> wing_: no, there is no default dns server in ubuntu.
[06:14] <wing_> also if DNS wasn't working couldn't I just type in the IP address for some server into my browser?
[06:15] <bean> wing_: no
[06:15] <bean> wing_: http/1.1 requires a host header
[06:15] <bean> to determine the site to be loaded
[06:15] <wing_> SwedeMike: where is this coming from then, I have them in my DNS but I never add the
[06:16] <wing_> hmm ok, I can ping DNS servers just fine
[06:16] <wing_> but my browser cannot do this?
[06:16] <bean> but you can't query them?
[06:16] <bean> dig @8.8.8.8 google.com
[06:17] <CrazyZurfer> Bean: things appear with permissions = owner: 1000 - user #1000
[06:17] <CrazyZurfer> Is that normal?
[06:17] <bean> CrazyZurfer: yes, uid 1000 = first user non system created
[06:18] <wing_> bean yeah it's weird
[06:19] <CrazyZurfer> Bean: where dic you learn so much? :)
[06:19] <wing_> what does dig @8.8.8.8 mean?
[06:19] <CrazyZurfer> Did*
[06:20] <bean> CrazyZurfer: i do this all day at work
[06:20] <dr_willis> dig - DNS lookup utility
[06:20] <bean> wing_: run that on the command line,
[06:20] <dr_willis>  dig (domain information groper) is a flexible tool for interrogating DNS name servers.
[06:20] <bean> its to see if you can query any dns servers.
[06:21] <wing_> ok done
[06:22] <dr_willis> ;; Query time: 48 msec
[06:22] <wing_> it's really strange because I had internet, did the upgrade to quantal, albeit a weird way, then upon restart bam, this problem
[06:22] <dr_willis> shows i have a decent connection to the 8.8.8.8 dns servers wing_
[06:22] <wing_> i got 398 msec
[06:23] <bean> wing_: but it came back with a result?
[06:23] <wing_> yeah it seemed to do fine, no errors
[06:23] <bean> wing_: have you tried to curl anything
[06:23] <wing_> no
[06:24] <wing_> curl google.com ?
[06:24] <bean> yeah
[06:24] <bean> it should spit back a blob of code
[06:24] <CrazyZurfer> Bean: when I do a "dir" at /home/ubuntu  it says a big string of numbers and "-" and at the end Joako -> that was my user name what is all that string :)
[06:24] <wing_> Couldn't resolve host 'google.com'
[06:24] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[06:24] <wing_> I think something got messed up when I upgraded
[06:25] <bean> wing_: if you do dig google.com without the @8.8.8.8 does the results look different
[06:25] <dr_willis> CrazyZurfer:  dir here just gives a list of filenames.  perhaps you have a dir alias thats differnt.
[06:25] <dr_willis> alias dir   (may show the alias)
[06:25] <wing_> bean, it says that it timed out no servers could e reahed
[06:26] <bean> ok
[06:26] <JokesOnYou77> I just attached an IDE drive to my computer by USB (with a converter) and it shows up in palimpsest but not in fdisk -l or anywhere else I can find.  Can anyone help me mount it?
[06:26] <wing_> reached
[06:26] <bean> wing_: you need to change what dns servers you are using
[06:26] <bean> wing_: do you know how to do that?
[06:26] <iter> wing, you need an IP address, default gateway and subnet mask, and nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:26] <wing_> do you think that if you knew how I did upgrade it would help?
[06:26] <bean> iter: ... no
[06:26] <bean> no.
[06:27] <nuxninja> anybody want my help .......questions please
[06:27] <wing_> umm, not really I tried to but it has 68.94.156.1 and 68.94.157.1 still for some odd reason,
[06:27] <wing_> bean I used the network panel
[06:28] <bean> wing_, okay, see if it will let you set custom dns servers. use 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220
[06:28] <xib> bean, er
[06:28] <cfhowlett> wing_, for grins and giggles, please reset your router and attempt to connect
[06:28] <dr_willis> wing_:  thers really only 1 or 2 ways to upgrade...  unless you did somthing really wonky
[06:28] <CrazyZurfer> !cline
[06:28] <CrazyZurfer> !clone
[06:29] <iter> why would you use opendns?
[06:29] <wing_> I put 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 after changing settings to Automatic(DHCP) addresses only
[06:29] <iter> they are evil
[06:29] <iter> very good wing, use goog dns at least
[06:29] <bean> wing_: okay, that should work.
[06:29] <bean> iter: because it doesn't matter?
[06:29] <bean> iter: opendns is perfectly safe.
[06:29] <Jokes> I just attached an IDE drive to my computer by USB (with a converter) and it shows up in palimpsest but not in fdisk -l or anywhere else I can find.  Can anyone help me mount it?
[06:29] <iter> shrug, f opendns and their nxdomain hijacking
[06:29] <iter> at least goog doesn't do taht
[06:30] <iter> wing_: ifconfig shows your correct info for IP and subnet mask ?
[06:30] <wing_> dr_willis: what I did, and it seemed to work fine until this, was to change all my sources.list to the quantal default ones, then I did upgrade through the upgrade manager
[06:30] <iter> and netstat -rn has your correct gateway?
[06:30] <dr_willis> wing_:  that was totally the Wrong way.. You are lucky the system even boots.
[06:31] <dr_willis> Jokes:  try 'sudo blkid' to see if its seen
[06:31] <iter> that's the old school debian method right there
[06:32] <wing_> dr_willis: so I did it the wonky way?
[06:32] <iter> %s/olddistro/newdistro/g && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[06:32] <dr_willis> wing_:  the worse way possible i imagine..
[06:32] <dr_willis> for ubuntu
[06:33] <iter> meh, nothing that you can't fix
[06:33] <Jokes> dr_willis, it's not seen according to blkid, but palimpsest shows it as a peripheral usb device on /dev/sde
[06:33] <iter> can you ping 8.8.8.8 wing_
[06:34] <wing_> bean no luck, it has listed the google DNS servers now but still the browser doesn't find servers :-(
[06:34] <wing_> iter yeah that works fine
[06:34] <iter> can you ping google.com
[06:34] <wing_> no
[06:35] <dr_willis> Jokes:  id unplug/plug it back in.. and see if dmesg mentions any errors about it
[06:35] <iter> cat /etc/resolv.conf | pastebinit
[06:35] <Jokes> dr_willis, replugging worked!  Now I feel a little silly, but thank you :)
[06:35] <wing_> no such file or directory
[06:35] <iter> right, that's not installed
[06:36] <iter> try sudo echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[06:36] <iter> then ping google.com again
[06:37] <bean> can't sudo echo with redirection
[06:37] <bean> that won't work
[06:37] <iter> ok... sudo -s
[06:37] <bean> echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[06:37] <iter> then echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' >> /etc/resolv.conf
[06:38] <Jokes> dr_willis, I now have a new problem.  Most of the drive is made of logical partitions and I can't access them
[06:38] <Jokes> Error starting job: Failed to execute child process "lvchange" (No such file or directory)
[06:38] <dr_willis> Jokes:  what filesystem?
[06:38] <wing_> permission denied
[06:38] <Jokes> dr_willis, ext4
[06:38] <wing_> using sudo or sudo -s
[06:38] <bean> wing_: use this
[06:38] <bean>  echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[06:38] <iter> if you type sudo -s and press enter it should ask for a password
[06:39] <dr_willis> Jokes:   so if you try to mout them by hand they give any error messages?
[06:39] <wing_> oh, i"ll try other way
[06:40] <wing_> thannks now I can ping google.com
[06:40] <bean> yw
[06:40] <Jokes> dr_willis, mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[06:41] <wing_> but browser still can't see it, do I need to restart them?
[06:41] <Jokes> Maybe I should just plug it back into the old box and use a live distro :/
[06:41] <wing_> oh I guess so
[06:41] <dr_willis> Jokes:  ive  never used lvm's so no idea on those
[06:41] <wing_> It works now thanks!!!
[06:41] <wing_> that was strange
[06:42] <iter> what happens when you type sudo -s and press enter
[06:42] <wing_> dr_willis: apparently I've found a new way to upgrade, just make sure to fix /etc/resolv.conf after attempting my method
[06:43] <Jokes> dr_willis, crap.  Thanks for trying.
[06:43] <Jokes> Anyone know how to mount an external drive that uses LVM groups?
[06:43] <dr_willis> wing_:  its not a new way.. its an old way that has left many people who come in here with totally unbootable systems
[06:44] <wing_> dr_willis: seems like the easiest way, it really should be supported
[06:45] <wing_> it could be called a 'seamless' upgrade
[06:46] <Jokes> dr_willis, IT LIVES!!!
[06:46] <dr_willis> wing_:  it can cause severe breakage....   theres reasons they developed the do-release-upgrade tool
[06:46] <Jokes> Had to install package: lvm2  apparently was removed after 11.04 update
[06:47] <wing_> hmm I'll have to look into that method could be a bit safer for next time
[06:48] <iter> yes, use do-release-upgrade
[06:48] <dr_willis> a bit safer is a understatement..
[06:48] <dr_willis> You could have been looking at a total reinstall.
[06:48] <iter> however I have a machine which has been upgraded since dapper with the other method
[06:48] <iter> works fine
[06:49] <iter> wow that's 14 releases ago huh
[06:49] <iter> dayam
[06:50] <wing_> I remember when Ubuntu first came out I had them send me some CD's
[06:50] <nighthawknz> anyone got hyperv experience
[06:50] <wing_> they were free
[06:57] <wing_> should I use firmware-libertas or linux-firmware?
[07:00] <nathanbz> hey
[07:00] <nathanbz> how do i tell what version of apache i have installed
[07:00] <nathanbz> as in prefork, normal etc
[07:01] <wing_> oic it looks like firmware-libertas is obsolete now
[07:01] <iter> if you installed from repos you can dpkg -i | grep -i apache
[07:01] <nathanbz> thanks iter thats the command i wanted :)
[07:01] <iter> in that case you definitely want the correct command
[07:01] <iter> should be dpkg -l sorry
[07:01] <nathanbz> yeah i knew it was l
[07:02] <nathanbz> I just couldn'
[07:02] <nathanbz> was just having a brain fart
[07:06] <wing_> what's this weird screen sliding thing in quantal called?
[07:11] <arunkumar413> how to make geany execute this command : "qmlscene <filename>
[07:12] <wing_> anyone know what it's called, it's when you go to the bottom of the screen and the whole thing comes up
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> wing_: some kind of hot corner app?
[07:13] <wing_> it's the default in quantal when your cursor goes to the bottom of the screen
[07:13] <wing_> I'd like to remove it but I don't know what it's name is
[07:13] <arunkumar413> wing_: notification area
[07:14] <wing_> thanks
[07:15] <arunkumar413> how to make geany execute the terminal command : "qmlscene <filename>"
[07:16] <arunkumar413> instead of going to the terminal and compliling the program I want to compile it directly from the geany
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Arunkumar413: ask in #geany too
[07:22]  * TXRoadkill is away: Off to find a shrubbery...
[07:22] <somsip> !away > TXRoadkill
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> I have tried to do a sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree and it tells me there is no candidate.  Do I need to enable nonfree in repositories, and if so where do I do it?  I have opened Synaptic for ease of use now.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> ! Info flashplugin-nonfree
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue     thanks
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: cat /etc/issue - Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: enable the multiverse repo
[07:31] <mikubuntu> last two times i've booted i get a message (preboot) that /tmp file is not present or mounted ... with the option to skip or mount manually ... whats up with that
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: do you have a separate partition for /tmp?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: is the /tmp folder present?
[07:35] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: i don't know ... if i enter 'm' for manual mount it seems to go ahead and boot
[07:35] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: It is enabled.
[07:36] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: i haven't done anything other than the updates that the manager presents
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:37] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: worried that one of the next times i try to boot its not going to
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: what is the output of:   file /tmp
[07:38] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: E: Package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: flashplugin-installer
[07:39] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: just a sec
[07:40] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[07:40] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: /tmp: sticky directory
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: does: ls -l / | grep tmp    show full access (drwxsrexrwx)
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Without the e
[07:43] <lex_> ey guyz
[07:44] <Ascavasaion> Hell, am I the ooooooonly person on Planet earth that can never get Flash to work?
[07:44] <lex_> oh really?
[07:44] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: drwxrwxrwt  13 root root 135168 Jan 22 02:39 tmp  (tmp in red)
[07:46] <Ascavasaion> Does Microsoft own Adobe/Flash now?  Judging by the fact that its downloads never work, they are stopping support... sure sounds like a Microsoft move to me.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: adobe owns flash
[07:47] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Oh, well then I am just too stupid to get it to work.
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: I use chrome,  it comes with pepper flash, no need for Adobe's thing
[07:48] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Chrome, Chromium, and Firefox do not work with Flash when I touch it.
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: mine is green.  Could be significant.
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i remove all flash packages and install chrome,  done
[07:49] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: LEt me try that.
[07:49] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: you think? :P
[07:49] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: you think? :P
[07:50] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: I began with a sudo apt-get emove flash*
[07:50] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: i was assuming that it could be a bug that came in an update -- this is the first case you heard of this?
[07:50] <Ascavasaion> emove=emove
[07:51] <hellyeah> hey
[07:51] <hellyeah> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[07:51] <hellyeah> what are you saying about this
[07:51] <Ascavasaion> Oh for the love of!  No chrome either.  Only chrome available.
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: this is support only
[07:52] <Ascavasaion> Oh for the love of!  No chrome either.  Only CHROMIUM available.
[07:52] <hellyeah> i just ask for response
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: its nit in the repos. Calm down
[07:52] <hellyeah> question is ubuntu 12 comes with spyware
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: I suggest you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:53] <hellyeah> hmm
[07:53] <hellyeah> okey
[07:53] <somsip> !adlens | hellyeah
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: thats not a question,  its sn incorrect statement
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: its not spyware
[07:54] <dr_willis> and its been covered in detail in about every blog and  other ubuntu info sites about.. what? 8 mo ago?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: yoy been in a cave or something?
[07:55] <hellyeah> man
[07:55] <hellyeah> i just saw a mail abouthat
[07:55] <hellyeah> and i come here to ask
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Dr_willis: I was watching this tv show about this guy called Hitler, we should totally stop him
[07:56] <dr_willis> down with evil! ;)
[07:57] <dr_willis> hellyeah:  see   Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ   and the info at the omgubuntu and webupd8 and other ubuntu blogging sites
[07:57] <david_> Wondering if linux projects could be compiled in android
[07:57] <somsip> ActionParsnip: As someone who is in this channel to help others when he can, I find your response to hellyeah deplorable. You're usually very helpful. It is not necessary to rag an uninformed person like this. I though we were better in this channel
[07:57] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: I did the following http://www.itworld.com/software/304992/install-googles-chrome-browser-ubuntu-1210 and chrome is downloading.
[07:58] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  you dont have to attack me
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: I didn't,  just pointing out that its not spyware
[07:58] <dr_willis> david_:  not without some work i imagine.
[07:59] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  yoy been in a cave or something? this is kinda aggressive talking
[07:59] <hellyeah> no problem anyways
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Was meant as a joke, apologies all round
[08:00] <david_> I know its possible with the NDK somehow.
[08:00] <somsip> ActionParsnip: ok by me. Back on-topic then, eh?
[08:01] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  actually i want to defend ubuntu because i saw an email in mailling list. And i need source to collapse this statement. Because i know there are a lot of people that saw these email and probably use ubuntu. I dont want  anyone have biased idea or something
[08:01] <hellyeah> i love open source.
[08:01] <cloudu> i love open source tooo
[08:02] <varikonniemi> how can i make the fullscreen videos of the web not to open in the upper left most monitor? I have the second monitor on the left side, and it opens all flash in it
[08:02] <Ascavasaion> hellyeah: Let it go, he was joking, you misunderstood him which is easy on chat.  ActionParsnip is the most helpful perso in the channel, and I have been coming here for years.
[08:02] <cloudu> any one  know step by step off cloud
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> Hellyeah: the data is anonymous,  so its not spying
[08:03] <hellyeah> ActionParsnip:  my english is kinda poor i am sorry if i misunderstood you wrongly
[08:03] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: any idea how to fix?
[08:03] <hellyeah> but i am sincere with last thing i said
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Cloudu: what is off cloud please?
[08:03] <varikonniemi> nvsettings does not help here, as i have selected the primary monitor
[08:03] <varikonniemi> et flash does not accept this
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: if you run:   mount; lsb_release -a; uname -a      can you pastebin the output please
[08:05] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: just a sec
[08:05] <apm1> if i enable/on the firewall in gufw  once and then close gufw will the firewall be disabled ?
[08:05] <cloudu> cloud computing
[08:06] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:  the omgubuntu or webupd8 blog site had a artical on flash 'hacks/tweaks' to fix some of the issues with full screen flash videos. Mainly dealing with Multi-monitor support
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Cloudu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: ufw will run in the background
[08:07] <varikonniemi> dr_willis, do you happen to have an url?
[08:08] <apm1> with the same prefrences as i previously setup with gufw ?
[08:08] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:  nope. those are the only 2 ubuntu news/blog sites i go to . so it was on one of those 2
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: yes, gufw is a GUI to the service
[08:08] <varikonniemi> kk i try google my way through :D
[08:08] <apm1> and do i have to edit these prefrences after every reboot
[08:08] <david_> It is interresting that 11.2 would be the last adobe flash for linux, since a merger of Adobe with Microsoft is in the works.
[08:08] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:   or go to the 2 sites and look ;) i belive it was on the top 'links' bar of one of them the other day
[08:09] <varikonniemi> david_, merger?
[08:09] <varikonniemi> where from is this info
[08:09] <varikonniemi> i thought it had to do with google taking over flash development on linux through chromium, and adobe just freeing resources
[08:10] <apm1> ActionParsnip, do i have to edit these preferences everytime or ufw retains them even after a reboot ?
[08:10] <vhadil> i want to build ubuntu server, stable version for server version what 12.
[08:11] <somsip> vhadil: if it's for production, 12.04 is probably best as you have long term support on it
[08:11] <david_> I tried to watch a facew book video and it said that I needed a plugin.  When I clicked to get it, it said 11.2 was the final release.  I read elsewhere of a partnership of Microsoft with Adobe and a possible merger.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Vhadil: I'd go for precise,  it is LTS
[08:12] <vhadil> ActionParsnip, thanks dude
[08:12] <chamunks> how do I allow permalinks in apache I thought it was simply a2enmod rewrite
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> David_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'     thanks
[08:13] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: http://imagebin.org/243777
[08:13] <somsip> chamunks: is this Wordpress?
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Chamunks: I'd ask in the apache channel too
[08:14] <chamunks> I was conciddering it ActionParsnip
[08:14] <chamunks> somsip, yes
[08:14] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Well, chrome is installed... now to se if Flash works.
[08:14] <somsip> chamunks: make sure /wordpress/.htaccess can be written/created by www-data.
[08:14] <apm1> ActionParsnip, sorry to ask a stupid question ,but does ufw retain the preferences i edited with gufw even after a reboot ?
[08:14] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: just now i had to log out and back in to webchat.freenode.net because when i tried to post the page said that action would close all irc windows -- that never happend before, could it be related to the /tmp thing?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: I imagine so but I don't use it
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: why an image for text?
[08:15] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: The application Google Chrome has closed unexpectedly"... awesome!!!!
[08:15] <chamunks> somsip, http://puu.sh/1R0gN
[08:15] <mikubuntu> wanted the red type to show ActionParsnip
[08:16] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: do you need it in text
[08:16] <somsip> chamunks: do you get an error in Dashboard when you try to enable permalinks?
[08:17] <chamunks> somsip, not when i enable them just when I navigate once I have done so.  plus in w3tc plugin it tells me the .htaccess file isnt allowing rewrites or nginx is interfearing but i dont have nginx installed so its likely the htaccess
[08:18] <david_> LSB Version:	core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch
[08:18] <david_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[08:18] <david_> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[08:18] <david_> Release:	12.04
[08:18] <david_> Codename:	precise
[08:18] <FloodBot1> david_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:18] <somsip> chamunks: and mod_rewrite is enabled and working?
[08:18] <david_> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-36-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:44:52 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: no, its just lighter and faster to use text in every way
[08:19] <chamunks> somsip, well according to the diagnostics from the w3tc it is.
[08:20] <somsip> chamunks: ugly fix is to chmod 777, write it, then chmod it back to something safe. But it's something around permissions
[08:20] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: didn't know if the red type was significant, never had colored type come out of term
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Mikubuntu: all I can suggest is to test RAM using memtest86+ from Grub, also run an fsck from liveCD to make sure the drive and data are ok
[08:20] <david_> Hello.
[08:20] <chamunks> somsip, hmm apparently it did write out just now it didnt give me the option before but its now telling me the same error again let me f5 a few times.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> David_: use a pastebin. I did say
[08:21] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Well, Opened Google Chrome and Youtube for example tells me I need to install plugins. :(
[08:21] <david_> Ok
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> David_: actually I didn't,  sorry
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> David_: http://pate.ubuntu.com     or similar
[08:21] <philwyett> Ascavasaion: What is your cpu?
[08:22] <Ascavasaion> philipballew: Very old AMD
[08:23] <philipballew> philwyett, ^
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: can you please pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[08:23] <mikubuntu> ActionParsnip: don't know how to do either of those ... its late guess i'll just hope it boots tomorrow - lol.  thx, nite.
[08:23] <nathanbz> i created a user with sudo useradd -d /home/testuser -m testuser
[08:23] <nathanbz> but when i change to that user there command line seems very limited
[08:23] <philwyett> Ascavasaion:  Flash and Pepper flash in chrome require SSE2 instructions. Flash will not work for you.
[08:23] <nathanbz> do i need to setup some bash settings or somethingk
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Nathanbz: us3 adduser instead
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Use*
[08:24] <nathanbz> how do i remove the user i created
[08:24] <Ascavasaion> philipballew: Oh, okay, thank you. :(
[08:24] <chamunks> somsip, no difference
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Natanbz: sudo userdel testuser
[08:25] <somsip> chamunks: what did you do?
[08:25] <chamunks> somsip, chmod 0777
[08:25] <chamunks> somsip, http://puu.sh/1R0oq
[08:25] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1557794/
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> Nathanbz: there is an option to remove the home of the user too but I forget it
[08:26] <somsip> chamunks: did you set AllowOverride All (or whatever) in your virtual host for this site?
[08:26] <chamunks> somsip, likely not
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer
[08:26] <somsip> chamunks: which would enable mod_rewrite to the site...maybe one to look at
[08:27] <nathanbz> thanks
[08:27] <chamunks> somsip, good call it was set to none
[08:27] <somsip> chamunks: tada!
[08:27] <chamunks> I'll run that on all my vhosts and see how that works.
[08:29] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Okay I did sudo dpkg -P flashplugin-installer and have restarted Chrome and still no luck.  philipballew said "Flash and Pepper flash in chrome require SSE2 instructions. Flash will not work for you."... I am using an old AMD processor... is he correct?
[08:29] <chamunks> somsip, you're my hero
[08:30] <chamunks> somsip, permalinks works now and I set .htaccess back to default perms and it seems to be agreeing entirely.
[08:30] <bab> hi guys
[08:30] <philipballew> Ascavasaion, you can hit your tab key till it shows the right name usually
[08:30] <somsip> chamunks: np. Just bear in mind that All is not a safe production setting. And you know about the w3tc cache bug, yes?
[08:30] <chamunks> I do not
[08:30] <chamunks> somsip, so after I'm finished I should set it back to none?
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: you may need an older flash, or you could try gnash, lightspark or even minitube , no need for flash then :)
[08:31] <somsip> chamunks: go to http://your-site/wp-content/cache If you geta directory list, block the dir in htaccess
[08:31] <Ascavasaion> ActionParsnip: Okay, cool man.
[08:31] <Ascavasaion> philipballew: Huh?
[08:31] <chamunks> somsip, I got a 404
[08:32] <somsip> chamunks: k - should have been patched by now if you've downloaded a new version. Override None will kill your htaccess again, but it might be better to allwo htaccess, but disallow others. You'll need to read up on that yourself
[08:32] <philwyett> Ascavasaion: My old workaround: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=134940#c60
[08:33] <philwyett> Ascavasaion: yes yyou can use an old version. :-)
[08:33] <Ascavasaion> philipballew: Okay, I get it now HAHAHA!
[08:34] <fishcooker> i want to build ubuntu with no window desktop manager.. so the ubuntu after booting directly running my apps
[08:34] <chamunks> somsip, well either way you saved the day again you're awesome cheers
[08:34] <somsip> chamunks: np.
[08:35] <Ascavasaion> philwyett: Thanks for the tip, but I think that is a little advanced for me.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: install ubuntu minimal
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: you can then install something like fluxbox or openbox to draw the windows
[08:37] <philwyett> Ascavasaion: No probs. You could try gnash as ActionParsnip suggested.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: install slim as a login manager and a network manager irf you are using WiFi.  Total space is about 1.2Gb
[08:38] <Eagleman> Is there something like this for scp?  Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[08:38] <Stefan91> Do you know if getting an internet connection via wireless is possible with ubuntu installed on a lenovo laptop?
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: you can SFTP to localhost if that is what you meant
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Stefan91: sure
[08:39] <Eagleman> ActionParsnip, i want to copy a file to a remote system, using scp
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[08:40] <iceroot> Eagleman: scp localfile.txt user@host:/path/on/the/target/
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: nautilus can connect to sshfs too
[08:40] <Eagleman> ActionParsnip, that works however i want users inside a group that only allows them to use scp:  Subsystem sftp internal-sftp  is what i have now
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: you could chmod and chown the scp binary to restrict access
[08:42] <Eagleman> Subsystem sftp internal-sftp  should allow scp?
[08:42] <Stefan91> when i use the network-connection icon in the menu bar on the top right when ubuntu is started, there do not appear any network connections, do i have to set up anything before i can acces internet, i just got ubuntu on pc and i don't know anything about it
[08:43] <zetheroo> has anything changed between Win7 to Win8 in regards to dual booting Ubuntu?
[08:43] <btral> hi
[08:43] <btral> what is the means of OPT=$(getopt -o fr --long factory,reboot,delete-sysid -n '$TAG' -- "$@") ?
[08:44] <dr_willis> looks like its setting the OPT variable to be the oputput of that command. ;)
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Btral: run it then run:   echo $OPT    to see what it sets to
[08:49] <technikfreak> hello guys, does anyone could suggest me a good internetfilter so for my kids that they are able to surf safe on the web?
[08:49] <technikfreak> they are 16 and 14
[08:50] <quick-> technikfreak: procon works for firefox
[08:50] <technikfreak> ok
[08:50] <Eagleman> I was looking for this but then for scp:  ForceCommand internal-sftp
[08:50] <dr_willis> technikfreak:  put the pc in a front room so everyone can see wht they are doing. ;) you may want to look into using Opendns also. It has some filtering features
[08:50] <technikfreak> i will try it, but when they start download shit i think the only way is to use a proxy
[08:51] <technikfreak> at the moment they don|t have a smartphone but when this will happened..
[08:51] <technikfreak> dr_willis : but a 16 year teenager will hve a own laptop
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Technikfreak: could install squid or snort and use that as a proxy, could use a dedicated box then pull up monthly logs etc
[08:51] <dr_willis> Given the size of 'protecting' the network. You have to really defin what you want to let them do and not do.. theres not going to be a single perfect answer
[08:51] <quick-> technikfreak: You can use keywords to block the content and the word list can be changed only with a password . Check https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/procon-latte/
[08:52] <dr_willis> If they have a laptop they can connect to the neighbors wifi and get aroundyour stuff. ;)
[08:52] <technikfreak> dr_willis : yeap but than i have done my protection
[08:52] <dr_willis> so its most likely going to be a multi-prong approach
[08:52] <technikfreak> haha i will setup for every neihgbarhood a proxy because in case my kids asked for network
[08:53] <technikfreak> normally they are very good and sitting not the whole day gaming or downlaoding
[08:53] <mah454> Hello
[08:53] <technikfreak> but i see form other parents that they ahve problems
[08:53] <mah454> How can get ubuntu mobile ?
[08:53] <mah454> can download it ?
[08:53] <dr_willis> mah454:  at this time.. no.
[08:53] <Stefan91> when i use the network-connection icon in the menu bar on the top right when ubuntu is started, there do not appear any network connections, do i have to set up anything before i can acces internet, i just got ubuntu on pc and i don't know anything about it
[08:53] <quick-> mah454: HI
[08:53] <Stefan91> can anybody help please?
[08:54] <zetheroo> does Ubuntu have any issue with UEFI?
[08:54] <technikfreak> Stefan91 : is the network card blinking?
[08:54] <quick-> mah454: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
[08:54] <dr_willis> zetheroo:  ive herd some people have issues with it... others dont.
[08:54] <Stefan91> i got turned on wireless on my laptop and the router is tourned on
[08:55] <quick-> Stefan91: Pls ask your question if anybody knows a sloutin they ll respond
[08:55] <Guest87162> Guys, I'm on a USB trying out Ubunto. If I try to install OpenVpn by doing  sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn I get the error: "Package network-manager-openvpn is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:55] <Guest87162> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:55] <Guest87162> is only available from another source" Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[08:56] <qualia> ubunto :P
[08:56] <Guest87162> yes sorry
[08:56] <qualia> no that was cute
[08:56] <Guest87162> yeah. so any  ideas?
[08:58] <fishcooker> i want to make a box running without window desktop manager so after booting my apps running directly
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> ! Vpn
[08:59] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  you are better off using a very minimal window manager. such as jwm, or fluxbox
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> Qualia: it gets called all sorts
[09:00] <Guest87162> @Action, I did try this command from that page: sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[09:00] <dr_willis> Guest87162:  start with a 'sudo apt-get update' then try reinstalling it
[09:00] <Guest87162> thanks
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: i've seen guides on just running chrome with some jiggery pokery
[09:00] <dr_willis> fishcooker:  what apps are you trying to do this with?
[09:01] <fishcooker> java apps dr_willis
[09:02] <fishcooker> which the link ActionParsnip :-D
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: flwm is probably as light as it goes
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: askubuntu.com/questions/141165/how-do-i-install-only-chrome-on-a-minimal-installation
[09:03] <dreamon_> Hello. having a samsung printer SCX-3200. first had 12.04 printer work sometime, sometimes not. scanner same. It work till made a new start of OS on there day. same problem.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: I'd go with fluxbox,  its light
[09:04] <fishcooker> have u try openbox(OB) ActionParsnip
[09:04] <fishcooker> :P
[09:04] <fishcooker> btw thanks for the link
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: indeed, they are similar
[09:04] <Guest87162> Guys, no luck. I've done sudo-apt-get remove --purge network-manager. Then reinstalled and restarted it. But still, sudo-apt-get install network-manager-openvpn gives me the same error of there being no release candidates. Could it be because I'm on a USB and haven't installed Ubuntu yet?
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: I run openbox+xcompmgr+docky   and its about 230Mb in RAM :-)
[09:05] <dreamon_> Also tried install manually install .. nothing worked fine
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> Fishcooker: http://db.tt/wv3FcIag :-)
[09:08] <hXm> i am in the group www, /var/www/domain is owned by root and group www, i want group www can read write and execute under /var/www/domain and every directories in this
[09:08] <hXm> i did chmod -R ugo+xwr
[09:08] <hXm> and i see every file as executable and some directories i cant join
[09:08] <hXm> what do i wrong
[09:09] <fishcooker> cool ActionParsnip
[09:09] <Corey> hXm: In short, you made every file executable.  Recursively.
[09:09] <Corey> Smoove.
[09:09] <Guest87162> hahaha
[09:09] <nipa> Anyone got some tips on getting a bluetooth headset running?
[09:10] <nipa> I keep getting internal errors when trying to pair my device. It seems most people are experiencing errors with the standard bluetooth suite from software center
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Nipa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio
[09:12] <atlef>  anyone tried gnome-shell-mousewheel-zoom https://launchpad.net/~tobias-quinn/+archive/gsmz  64bit cinnamon and have it working, it removes mdm and refuses to login even if i install gdm
[09:12] <atlef> *in
[09:12] <dr_willis> !info mdm
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> Dreamon: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88700/how-do-i-get-a-samsung-scx3200-multifunction-printer-scanner-working
[09:13] <dr_willis> Hmm. not even sure what mdm does. ;)
[09:13] <atlef> universal access zoom function was not to my liking
[09:13] <quick-> !info simon
[09:13] <ThinkT510> !mint | atlef
[09:13] <dr_willis> cinnamon is also not supported here i belive.. it can break ubuntu.
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Atlef: cinnamon isn't supported here
[09:13] <atlef> ok
[09:13] <atlef> get it
[09:13] <atlef> sorry
[09:14] <atlef> ∕me hangs around #linuxmint-help for answer
[09:14] <dr_willis> the main mint channel is on a differnt server
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Atlef: you could install xfce4 and use XFCE if you like a 2 panel desktop
[09:14] <atlef> i know
[09:15] <atlef> patient i will, hurr
[09:15] <atlef> *be
[09:16] <lst> lineage for pussies
[09:17] <rd4> guys ,I have one problem----> time print 'hello' >>result           I want to write the time into result file .how to do it ?
[09:18] <Stefan91>  when i use the network-connection icon in the menu bar on the top right when ubuntu is started, there do not appear any network connections, do i have to set up anything before i can acces internet, i just got ubuntu on pc and i don't know anything about it
[09:18] <ThinkT510> rd4: #bash could help
[09:18] <dr_willis> rd foo=$(command)  i think
[09:18] <Stefan91> the network wireless little lamp doesn't blink in ubuntu
[09:18] <Stefan91> could anybody help please?
[09:18] <rd4> ThinkT510, ok
[09:18] <ThinkT510> Stefan91: depends on your wifi chipset
[09:19] <ThinkT510> Stefan91: pastebin lspci
[09:19] <Stefan91> how can i influence my wifi chipset
[09:19] <Stefan91> ?
[09:19] <AStorm|work> hello
[09:19] <Stefan91> can i do any configurations there?
[09:19] <ThinkT510> Stefan91: open a terminal and type lspci
[09:19] <AStorm|work> I have an issue with unity and multi-screen on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:20] <AStorm|work> screen lock seems to move all windows onto first screen
[09:20] <Stefan91> how do i open a terminal? sorry i really donÄt know anything abouut it
[09:20] <ThinkT510> Stefan91: then put that info into a pastebin so we can see
[09:20] <AStorm|work> is it possible to fix this behavior?
[09:20] <dr_willis> !terminal
[09:20] <ThinkT510> Stefan91: ctrl+alt+t
[09:20] <AStorm|work> (or is that a bug I should report somewhere on launchpad)
[09:20] <dr_willis> Stefan91:  alt-ctrl-t, or look for terminal in the dash  are 2 ways
[09:20] <ThinkT510> !paste | Stefan91
[09:20] <dr_willis> first thing i always do.. put a terminal icon on the panel
[09:21] <lst> dr_willis enjoy your red eyes
[09:21] <lst> :D
[09:21] <AStorm|work> apparently I'm unlucky or nobody knows how to fix it (yes, I have tried google and checked wiki)
[09:22] <Stefan91> thank you i'll try
[09:22] <dr_willis> lst:  actually its about 2 hrs untill my normal bed time.
[09:22] <lst> dr_willis haha okay
[09:22] <lst> dr_willis just kidding (:
[09:22] <ThinkT510> AStorm|work: then check launchpad to see if anyone else has run into it
[09:23] <nipa> ActionParsnip, should I follow the guide for Gutsy?
[09:25] <AStorm|work> ThinkT510:  1 → 75 of 656 results  <- halp!
[09:25] <AStorm|work> most unrelated too
[09:26] <AStorm|work> ah, found the bug, it's "Confirmed"
[09:26] <AStorm|work> that's about it.
[09:27] <AStorm|work> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/832312
[09:27] <AStorm|work> why is that Low priority
[09:27] <AStorm|work> it's critical user experience bug, trivial to trigger
[09:27] <AStorm|work> well, maybe not exactly critical, but highly annoying
[09:27] <AStorm|work> :>
[09:29] <ThinkT510> AStorm|work: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:29] <AStorm|work> 12.04 LTS
[09:29] <AStorm|work> it's also present in 12.10
[09:29] <ThinkT510> AStorm|work: then you may want to add to that bug report
[09:30] <AStorm|work> yes, first I need to reactivate the account, eh
[09:31] <iceroot> AStorm|work: it is is really now low i am always going to #ubunu-bug and ask if someone can check the bug and mark it as medium, high and so on. that normally will also bring some attention to the bug i am facing
[09:32] <AStorm|work> iceroot: posting a comment *should* do as well; commented
[09:35] <CQ> hello, how do I get a remote X display to work? I allowed remote hosts with xhost +, exported the display to the host:0 (also tries host:0.0) but get a message that the host is refusing connections
[09:35] <lst> That's sad
[09:35] <lst> :(
[09:39] <fishcooker> i want to build desktop i want to build desktop video.conference station on linux .. which graphic card that would be recommended for this teleconference session? dual monitor the feed and stream monitorvideo.conference station on linux .. which graphic card that would be recommended for this teleconference session? dual monitor the feed and stream monitor
[09:39] <abc> bewafa....a aaa bewafa....aaa bewafa nikali hye tu, jutha payar tera pyar..............ni jutha pyar kitta haye tu bewafa nikali hye tu....
[09:40] <subdesign> where to set up sleep mode settings in 12.10? Its too short time goes to quickly to sleep
[09:45] <iceroot> AStorm|work: yes i think so too
[09:49] <Eagleman> I am trying to encrypt a tar file, however after i entered the password nothing seems to happen, and when i abort the encryption the file is reduced to 0 bytes:  openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -e > out.tar.gz.enc
[09:50] <ikonia> Eagleman: that command will do nothing
[09:50] <ikonia> Eagleman: you've not given en iput
[09:50] <ikonia> an
[09:51] <Eagleman> I noticed, i think its working now. Have to find a way to decrypt now
[09:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: ???? why are you doing this if you don't know how to decrypt it
[09:52] <dr_willis> CQ:  you are using ssh x forwarding?
[09:52] <ikonia> encypting something when you don't know how to decrypt it......very silly
[09:52] <Eagleman> To protect my backup.tar.gz file
[09:52] <ikonia> Eagleman: yes, but you don't know how to decrypt it
[09:52] <Eagleman> ikonia, its just for testing purposes now
[09:52] <ikonia> so it's worthless
[09:53] <Eagleman> for now it is
[09:53] <justmeh> ikonia, wrong
[09:53] <justmeh> its not silly, its smart
[09:53] <dns53> Eagleman have you tried using gpg?
[09:53] <justmeh> as long as all keystrokes were recorded and output, there's no issue.
[09:53] <Eagleman> dns53, will do it after this
[09:54] <ikonia> justmeh: what ?
[09:54] <ikonia> justmeh: encypting a file so you can't use it....is "good"
[09:54] <ikonia> sorry, but no
[09:54] <justmeh> [01:52] <ikonia> encypting something when you don't know how to decrypt it......very silly <- wrong
[09:54] <ikonia> no, it's not
[09:54] <ikonia> as it makes the file worthless
[09:54] <justmeh> you just don't have your head wrapped around an experimentation round
[09:54] <ikonia> you've just created a worthless file
[09:54] <justmeh> wrong
[09:54] <justmeh> the keystrokes and issues observed all will teach how to actually use it
[09:55] <justmeh> its as if you saying don't bother unless you already know how
[09:55] <justmeh> not very useful for a learning channel
[09:55] <ikonia> so lets see, you have a file you can use.....you encypt it with a technicque you have no idea how to decypt it and thus making the file usless
[09:55] <ikonia> you need an idea of how to decyrpt it before encypting it so you get the encyption options right
[09:55] <Eagleman> ikonia, let me find out how to decrypt it...
[09:56] <CQ> dr_willis: yes, trying ssh -X remotehost but its not settingthe display at the remote end
[09:56] <ThinkT510> ikonia: i think what justmeh is trying to say is that it is good that Eagleman is trying to learn about encrption/decryption
[09:56] <justmeh> yes
[09:56] <justmeh> and as long as the keystrokes are recorded even a failed attempt is useful.
[09:56] <justmeh> anything useful is not silly.
[09:56] <dr_willis> CQ:  you  sure you dont me -x  ? i recall -X and -x being opposites.. one disables X fowarding
[09:56] <justmeh> thus my disagreement ;)
[09:57] <ikonia> ThinkT510 I'm not saying learning is bad, but randomly doing things that can potentially ruin your files...unwise
[09:57] <dns53> gpg is relatively straight forward, gpg --encrypt --recipient 'email@host' filename,   just export the public key to the user running the script and you do not need a password to encrypt
[09:57] <CQ> dr_willis: -X enables, -x disables according to the manpage
[09:57] <ikonia> research before typing commands seems a more mature approach to achieving the goal
[09:58] <dr_willis> CQ:  jusat checking.. seen people get them reversed.. i always just setit to alwaysforward.
[09:59] <dr_willis> CQ:   if X forwarding. you shouldent need tobe messing with the xhost command at all. that would let you run an app and have  it appear on the remote pc.
[10:00] <CQ> dr_willis: any ideas why it wouldn't be set?
[10:00] <dr_willis> CQ:   if X forwarding. you shouldent need tobe messing with the xhost command at all. that would let you run an app and have  it appear on the remote pc.
[10:01] <justmeh> Eagleman, i think you forgot the input file?
[10:01] <CQ> dr_willis: all I'm doing right now is ssh -X remotehost /usr/bin/xeyes and its not getting a display... if I just ssh -X remotehost and echo $DISPLAY its empty
[10:01] <justmeh> http://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/#encrypt-simple <- random related content @ Eagleman
[10:02] <dr_willis> echo $DISPLAY
[10:02] <dr_willis> localhost:10.0
[10:02] <dr_willis> is what i get when im ssh'd and x forwarding
[10:02] <CQ> locally I jsut see :0 which is OK...
[10:02] <justmeh> @ Eagleman also: http://www.fir3net.com/Redhat-/-Fedora/password-protect-and-encryptsalt-a-file-with-openssl-in-linux.html
[10:02] <justmeh> you should be set after looking through those
[10:02] <dr_willis> this is locally
[10:03] <CQ> what do you see if you ssh -X remotehost and there echo $DISPLAY?
[10:03] <dr_willis>  ssh -X localhost
[10:03] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:03] <dr_willis> was my test.. Idont have a box to ssh to at the moment
[10:03] <CQ> no, ssh -X remotehost... thats where you want to run the application.
[10:03] <CQ> ah, ok
[10:04] <CQ> yes, I get the same thing
[10:04] <CQ> for localhost
[10:06] <justmeh> Eagleman, any further issues?
[10:07] <nathanbz> anyone know how to access files on s3 from the command line in ubunto
[10:08] <somsip> nathanbz: use s3cmd
[10:08] <Eagleman> justmeh, that example works fine, however i need to encrypt a tar file
[10:08] <nathanbz> ty
[10:13] <Eagleman> openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc -in encrypted.tar.gz.enc > decrypted.tar.gz
[10:13] <Eagleman> Not sure if this will work
[10:14] <justmeh> -d ?
[10:19] <Sail> i have apache2 prob i just created mysite.conf file in /etc/apache2/sites-avail/mysite.conf after this i run a2ensite mysite.conf command to enable it   for the failure  this file not working as per my condition so i delete it and after deletion whenever i run apache restart command it gave me error http://dpaste.com/hold/886669/
[10:20] <llutz> Sail: rm /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/mysite.conf              the dangling link still exists
[10:20] <Eagleman> justmeh, atleast it works
[10:20] <justmeh> :>
[10:20] <justmeh> see? USEFUL!
[10:21] <Eagleman> However, its not so secure to use a static password saved in a file with limited permissions
[10:21] <Sail> llutz: how to fix this?
[10:21] <justmeh> sail when you killed the site did you update the a2ensite bit?
[10:21] <justmeh> eagleman, well the master cert has to be present right?
[10:21] <llutz> Sail:nest time you use a2dissite   and don't just remove your config
[10:21] <justmeh> if so, might as well setup for passwordless encryption
[10:22] <Sail> justmeh: how to update it
[10:22] <justmeh> and, the guys were right, check out gpg
[10:22] <Eagleman> justmeh, yes i was already planning to do that. Wanted to see how this worked
[10:22] <Sail> llutz: thanx man it workd
[10:22] <Sail> *works
[10:22] <justmeh> ^_^
[10:22] <justmeh> teamwork there!
[10:23] <llutz> Sail: things usually start to work, if you do them right
[10:23] <justmeh> lulz
[10:27] <freakynl> Hi, is there any way to install targetcli without the X crap?
[10:27] <freakynl> Running ubuntu server from a 2G USB stick. targetcli wants to pull in 1.2G of packages I don't have that much space (nor do I need 90% of X)
[10:30] <Eagleman> Great, not enough entropy
[10:32] <kekko97> buongiorno a tutti
[10:32] <Eagleman> I never get higher than 200 entropy_avail
[10:34] <ikonia> Eagleman: what are you protecting ?
[10:35] <Eagleman> ikonia, i want to use gpg --gen-key but its saying that there is not enough entropy_avail
[10:35] <jnths> Hi, somebody knows a good video editor for ubuntu?
[10:36] <ikonia> Eagleman: what are you using for entropy ?
[10:36] <Eagleman> ikonia, not sure but i think:  /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail
[10:37] <llutz> Eagleman: sudo apt-get install rng-tools  then run "sudo rngd -r /dev/random" in a 2nd terminal (man rngd)
[10:37] <llutz> Eagleman: ^ while you run gpg --gen-key
[10:38] <Sail> jnths: openshot for more info regarding this run apt-cache show openshot
[10:39] <jnths> Sail, thanx!
[10:40] <Eagleman> llutz, thats not working either
[10:42] <rigo> i would like to reload the sudoers file so give permissions without reboot.
[10:42] <rigo> how can i do that?
[10:42] <llutz> rigo: just let the user re-login
[10:43] <rigo> i c thanks :)
[10:43] <llutz> rigo: reboot isn't required
[10:43] <Sail> ok so i got another problem in apache 2 whenever i access apache in browser it says You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[10:43] <Sling> Sail: what does the errorlog say>?
[10:44] <llutz> Sail: you DocRoot needs to be readable by user "www-data", check it
[10:44] <Sail> Sling: what error log?? i am just getting error while accessing browser You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[10:44] <Sling> llutz: best to first check what the actual error is instead of assuming its filesystem permissions :)
[10:45] <Sail> llutz: can you please tell me the steps please
[10:45] <Sling> Sail: yes that is the browser error, the real error is in the ErrorLog (usually in /var/log/apache2/error.log I think)
[10:45] <Sling> check what your ErrorLog is set to in your configuration
[10:46] <rigo> im just sucking with xmltv+hts...
[10:46] <Sail> Sling: my last line in error log is http://dpaste.com/hold/886797/
[10:47] <Sling> Sail: why are you serving content from /root/ ?
[10:47] <Sling> you don't want to give your webserver read access to that folder, put your website in /var/www/somewhere
[10:48] <mathi> hello
[10:48] <goshWork> heyah :]
[10:48] <Ben64> just because its the documentroot, doesn't mean it should be in /root
[10:49] <headcr4sh> I need to disable automatic time/date synchronization on my Ubuntu (12.10) machine to perform some tests. I set "network time" to "off" in the control panel, but everytime I set the date manually (e.g. 'date -s "tomorror"') it only stays that way for a few tiny microseconds before switching back to NTP'd date... any ideas?
[10:50] <Sling> Sail: also best to not use htaccess files if you have access to the main configuration, it reduces performance and makes configuration more complex
[10:50] <Sail> Sling: thanx
[10:51] <zetheroo> !phone
[10:52] <headcr4sh> How _does_ Ubuntu 12.10 sync it's date/time settings? Package "ntp" is not installed on my machine,...
[10:53] <ikonia> headcr4sh: if you are not using ntp then it doesn't sync
[10:53] <justmeh> is ntpdate in?
[10:53] <headcr4sh> ikonia: yeah ... that's what I thought. But unfortunately someting IS changing my date/time...
[10:53] <justmeh> o nvm
[10:54] <justmeh> headcr4sh, more data pls
[10:54] <headcr4sh> Ok.
[10:54] <ikonia> headcr4sh: bios
[10:54] <justmeh> ya i would guess your right there, hwclock
[10:54] <justmeh> !UbuntuTime
[10:55] <headcr4sh> I execute 'date -s "tomorrow"' to MANUALLY set my date/time (I need to perform some tests) -- I can see that for a few microseconds the date will be set, but after that it switches back immediately.
[10:55] <headcr4sh> justmeh: UbuntuTime entry is old and outdated.
[10:55] <justmeh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime @ headcr4sh
[10:55] <justmeh> ya
[10:55] <justmeh> http://linux.die.net/man/8/hwclock
[10:55] <justmeh> ^-- updates that bios drivin hwclock
[10:56] <justmeh> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TimePrecision-HOWTO/set.html <- should be exactly what you're looking fore
[10:56] <justmeh> s/fore/for
[10:58] <headcr4sh> justmeh: ok... I'll take a look.
[10:58] <Sail> !guidelines
[10:59] <headcr4sh> changing the hw clock works... BUT syncing hw clock to system clock doesn't. -- that is really strange
[11:00] <headcr4sh> 'hwclock --set --date="tomorrow" && hwclock -s' << I can see (just execute `hwclock`), that my hardware clock was changed. But it fails to adjust the system clock.
[11:00] <justmeh> well
[11:00] <justmeh> first set hwclock to utc
[11:00] <justmeh> then set system tzdata to local zone
[11:00] <headcr4sh> Something must be running in the background, but I can't put my finger on anything suspicious.
[11:00] <justmeh> then still issues?
[11:00] <zsm1703> Mq432phm8w
[11:00] <Sling> zsm1703: might want to change that password :)
[11:01] <justmeh> lol
[11:01] <justmeh> fast..
[11:01] <headcr4sh> justmeh: yes. hwclock is set to tomorrow. System clock won't let me sync w/hardware clock... :-(
[11:01] <justmeh> what commands/output are you getting?
[11:01] <erupter> hi guys! is there a well known reason why when in tty console (alt+fn) the alignement of the last row oscillates between the bottom and the top of the screen? as if some vertical alignement was wrong, except we don't have cathode ray tubes anymore :P
[11:01] <justmeh> pastebin it?
[11:01] <erupter> hi guys! is there a well known reason why when in tty console (alt+fn) the alignement of the last row oscillates between the bottom and the top of the screen? as if some vertical alignement was wrong, except we don't have cathode ray tubes anymore :P
[11:02] <justmeh> erupter, once was good, sounds like you have a vid driver issue
[11:02] <erupter> justmeh, sorry, could not read the first part of the question the first time I posted (blank spaces). that's unfortunate about the vid drivers...
[11:02] <headcr4sh> justmeh: I'll try to figure out WHAT to pastebin. ;) -- btw. the time precission HOWTO is not applicable for Ubuntu 12.10 either -- e.g. no /etc/sysconfig/clock file on 12.10 anymore.
[11:03] <headcr4sh> justmeh: something must really have changed. In the past it was enough to stop "ntp" and set date/time manually via "date" command...
[11:04] <justmeh> headcr4sh, what i do:
[11:04] <justmeh> 1. set tzdata for local timezone
[11:04] <justmeh> 2. ntpdate -uv ntp.ubuntu.com
[11:05] <justmeh> @headcrash: 22 Jan 03:04:43 ntpdate[2649]: ntpdate 4.2.6p2@1.2194-o Sun Oct 17 13:35:14 UTC 2010 (1)  ////// 22 Jan 03:04:48 ntpdate[2649]: step time server 91.189.94.4 offset -3.830719 sec
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:05] <justmeh> greetz BluesKaj
[11:06] <BluesKaj> hi justmeh
[11:06] <zsm1703> hi
[11:06] <justmeh> hie
[11:08] <megha> is that true that after installing once we have to install it again and again when a new version of ubuntu is available ?
[11:08] <Ben64> you can upgrade
[11:08] <justmeh> megha, upgrades are pretty easy
[11:08] <justmeh> in fact it will tell you when one is out by default IIRC
[11:09] <Sling> yes, in the motd
[11:09] <justmeh> Sling, think desktop
[11:09] <justmeh> motd can do that also -- but that's typically server
[11:09] <Sling> sorry, I'm more of a server guy :)
[11:09] <justmeh> you can force a check, lets see, something like 'update-manager -d' or so
[11:09] <Sling> but anyway, best way is probably to subscribe to the announce list
[11:09] <justmeh> Sling, i hear ya ;)
[11:09] <justmeh> ya
[11:10] <justmeh> when ur system checks for packages it should be checking for releases
[11:10] <justmeh> daily / weekly / whatever its set to
[11:10] <megha> so only 1 install will last longer and no need to reinstall on new version release..
[11:10] <justmeh> @ megha it is true that a package may be updated several to dozens of times a year
[11:10] <justmeh> so you would need to download new versions as they come out - IF it matters to you
[11:11] <justmeh> you don't have to update I suppose, but i doubt very many people would cosign that as good behavior ;)
[11:11] <justmeh> megha, yeah, you will end up with a few extra packages here and there, but for the most part you can just upgrade again and again
[11:11] <megha> so just doing regular updates is fine :)
[11:11] <justmeh> sure ;)
[11:11] <megha> that's cool :)
[11:11] <justmeh> I tell mine to check and offer updates daily
[11:11] <Ben64> megha: until a new version of ubuntu comes out, then you should upgrade
[11:12] <justmeh> Ben64, don't confuse the package view with the os overall view
[11:12] <justmeh> true for os view, but don't run packages without checking for updates for 6 months
[11:12] <Ben64> i don't think he's asking about packages
[11:12] <justmeh> ben64 this is a help chan, so i tend to give a bit extra infoz
[11:12] <antonio_> does anyone here use Kdenlive?  For some reason playback is all screwed up...all the clips are playing double speed
[11:12] <justmeh> its also important to know how to think about stuffs
[11:13] <justmeh> not it @ antonio_
[11:13] <antonio_> ?
[11:13] <Ben64> megha: LTS versions released every 2 years, normal versions every 6 months
[11:14] <justmeh> ben64 - also biggest difference, is the normal versions keep more advanced packages
[11:14] <justmeh> the LTS versions _tend_ to keep more stable packages
[11:14] <Ben64> yep
[11:14] <megha> Ben64: so for eg if i  am  installing LTS version right now and say after 2 years i can upgrage to newer LTS without reinstalling the whole system ?
[11:14] <Ben64> megha: correct
[11:14] <justmeh> ^_^
[11:15] <justmeh> success!!
[11:15] <megha> cool
[11:15] <megha> :) :D
[11:15] <Ben64> next LTS is April 2014
[11:15] <megha> even this is true for norval versions ?
[11:15] <justmeh> and lts has extended support now, right ben? 5yrs instead of 3?
[11:15] <megha> normal*
[11:15] <Ben64> normal versions don't last as long
[11:15] <justmeh> megha, normal versions expire in 18 months
[11:15] <Ben64> justmeh: yes
[11:15] <justmeh> but you can mirror repos if you need to
[11:16] <megha> so after 18 months i have to reinstall my system ?
[11:16] <Ben64> best to do it after 6 months on normal releases
[11:16] <Ben64> or else you have to upgrade a few times at once
[11:16] <erupter> megha, you can keep on going just like lots of machines with winxp or ubuntu 8 do...
[11:17] <Ben64> then you miss out on security updates and bug fixes
[11:17] <justmeh> megha, let me break down for u
[11:17] <justmeh> today: 12.10 normal. 6 months: 13.04 normal, and so forth, this works very well
[11:17] <justmeh> today: 12.10 normal, 1 yr from now 13.10 normal; this works not so great
[11:18] <justmeh> today: 12.10 normal, 2 yrs from now (after 12.10 is fully dead for a few months) 14.04 - probably break
[11:18] <justmeh> so, when upgrading go one step at a time in the same line of releases
[11:18] <justmeh> normal upgrades normal, LTS upgrades LTS
[11:18] <headcr4sh> justmeh: I figured out the root cause of my problem (somehow) -- my DHCP client configuration contains a "request ntp-servers" section. So... obviously the DHCPClient was responsible for keeping my system time synced (usually a great mechanism, but as mentioned... I NEED to set my system time to a bogus value for some tests).
[11:18] <megha> justmeh: till what i understand is you are trying to say that that there is no need to reinstall the system when you are moving from 12.10 to 13.10 just a upgrage does your work
[11:18] <erupter> justmeh, I thought the only distro supposedly able to upgrade where the LTS ones, not the others...
[11:19] <headcr4sh> @ justme, others : thanks for your input anyways.
[11:19] <megha> sorry 12.10 to 13.04
[11:19] <headcr4sh> :-)
[11:19] <justmeh> megha, for 12.10 to 13.10 do 12.10->13.041->13.10
[11:19] <justmeh> yeah
[11:19] <Ben64> megha: yeah you can go 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04, or 12.04 -> 14.04
[11:20] <justmeh> @ headcr4sh - ok once your hwclock is good, then system time games can begin
[11:20] <justmeh> lets see here
[11:20] <megha> that's what i wanted to know it's cool to go on with your current ubuntu without reinstalling it :D :D :D
[11:20] <justmeh> yeah
[11:21] <justmeh> and if you really wanna do a big upgrade and be safe, you can dump your installed packages list, either from command line or synaptic, and you can also backup your /home/$USER directory
[11:24] <justmeh> hm
[11:24] <justmeh> @ headcr4sh i see what you mean
[11:25] <alexhq> How to specify Channel for gst-launch v4lsrc device=/dev/video0 for multichannel card?
[11:25] <justmeh> date;hwclock --set --date="9/22/16 16:45:05"; hwclock --hctosys;date ##does not do what i think it should
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> justmeh  maybe the people in #bash can help
[11:36] <justmeh> MonkeyDust, mebbie.. seems odd tho
[11:40] <zetheroo> what does it take for an external screen on DVI port to be seen by Ubuntu?
[11:41] <vsMS01> Can anyone tell me, which kernel will come in Ubuntu 12.04.02 ?
[11:41] <justmeh> zetheroo, that its a supported live channel, that you have a vid driver for the card in question that supports multimons (most should now), and that you setup each mon separately in xconfig
[11:42] <Ben64> !info linux-generic precise | vsMS01
[11:42] <zetheroo> I added a screen to my T400 laptop ... and it's not being seen in the Displays panel in Ubuntu 12.04
[11:42] <zetheroo> if I use VGA its just fine ... but on DVI no go
[11:43] <vsMS01> I heard something about 3.5 will become the default in 12.04.02
[11:43] <cfhowlett> vsMS01, actual specs are on the website ...
[11:43] <vsMS01> cfhowlett: can you tell me the URL?
[11:44] <Ben64> vsMS01: 12.10 has 3.5
[11:44] <Ben64> not sure what you mean by 12.04.02
[11:44] <tux11211211> how do i check if my wirelss card is functioning
[11:44] <vsMS01> Ben64: I mean the upcoming point release
[11:44] <justmeh> zetheroo, maybe one is on a card and the other is onboard?
[11:44] <Ben64> i don't think they change kernels in the middle of releases, especially LTS
[11:45] <zetheroo> justmeh: ah, could that really be? This laptop has ATI and Intel gfx and atm is running on Intel only
[11:46] <justmeh> zetheroo, you may need to look at lspci -vvv to see what is attached where
[11:46] <Ben64> although... the daily builds do show 3.5 kernel... strange
[11:46] <vsMS01> I know that 3.5 is actually included in 12.04 and I also heard that it is supported But I also found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Release/Rolling and in addition some comments in different lauchpad tickets
[11:46] <justmeh> might not quite get it from it, but that's a possibility, sorry i dont know that particular laptop good enough to tell
[11:49] <vsMS01> so linux-image-<flavour> linux-current should point to the quantal kernel now?
[11:50] <daze> I'm connecting to a IRC server that has a self-signed certificate. I want to add it to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/. How do I get it? xchat-gnome simply refuses to connect, not giving me an option of adding the certificate to my system (as does mIRC on win).
[11:50] <daze> Ubuntu 12.10, if that changes anything
[11:51] <_raven> will Ubuntu Phone be developed for asus padphone 2 too?
[11:52] <daze> _raven: community will port ubuntu phone to various models. if it runs android, it most likely will have a ubuntu version for it.
[11:53] <_raven> daze i plan to buy the padphone 2, hopefully it will be a version there for that then ;)
[11:54] <ThinkT510> !phone | _raven
[11:55] <daze> nice concept
[11:55] <justmeh> yes
[11:55] <justmeh> but what they showed off was um
[11:55] <justmeh> smoke
[11:55] <daze> I mean the padphone
[11:55] <daze> it's a bigger screen for your phone
[11:55] <justmeh> oh
[11:55] <justmeh> yeah
[11:56] <justmeh> look up the clambook
[11:56] <daze> if all the phones had a connector in the same place, it would be awesome :)
[11:56] <justmeh> they do
[11:56] <justmeh> its hdmi/mhl
[11:56] <tux11211211> how to check my wifi card
[11:56] <justmeh> if that connector was low latency for mhl that would be really nice
[11:56] <justmeh> !wifi | tux11211211
[11:57] <justmeh> yaknow i just realized, ubuntu is more popular than win8
[11:58] <erbo> anyone know the status of thunderbolt support? does it still make your cpu go crazy to use a apple thunderbolt display under linux?
[11:58] <daze> wow, how thin is that clambook? O.O
[11:59] <justmeh> think macbook air
[12:00] <justmeh> so point is, whether padphone, or clambook, the phone is most certainly a legit target for *nix
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> win8 is the best thing that could happen to linux
[12:00] <Eagleman> Why does gpg keeps saying It is NOT certain that the key belongs to the person named in the user ID. If you *really* know what you are doing, you may answer the next question with yes.  I want to trust that key
[12:00] <justmeh> not with 12.10 running around lol
[12:01] <justmeh> Eagleman, your gonna need the next dood up
[12:01] <justmeh> sorry :P
[12:01] <justmeh> but drop me the answer when you find it
[12:01]  * justmeh collects these things ^_^
[12:02] <Eagleman> gpg --always-trust works
[12:03] <subdesign> with 100Mbit lan how many Megabytes should be a copy process?
[12:03] <Ben64> subdesign: use math :D
[12:03] <subdesign> i have 2 ubuntu computers connected trough a router but the speed seems like 10Mbit ..
[12:04] <Ben64> there are 8 bits in a byte
[12:05] <Eagleman> subdesign in the ideal situation= 100/8= 12.5MB/sec
[12:06] <subdesign> hm thanks
[12:06] <Eagleman> so your 10 mbit speed seems alright, but i think you are talking about MB not mbit
[12:06] <subdesign> so 12.5 should be okay
[12:07] <Eagleman> 12.5 is max with your hardware
[12:07] <subdesign> then all right
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> but max values tend to be theoretical
[12:07] <cristian_c> Hi
[12:07] <cristian_c> I've enabled suspend with: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
[12:08] <cristian_c> It works but when I try resume, a kernel panic occurs or desktop is unusable
[12:08] <justmeh> subdesign, i like installing bwm-ng and run in terminal
[12:08] <daze> so is there a way to extract the SSL certificate from an IRC server? (I'm trying to connect to a server with a self-signed certificate that I want to trust)
[12:08] <justmeh> that will tell you what your looking at, and give you something to paste for us
[12:09] <cristian_c> If I launch chromium by the terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: No such file or directory
[12:09] <subdesign> justmeh, thx suggesting no im satisfied with the value :)
[12:09] <subdesign> *now
[12:09] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[12:09] <justmeh> cool ;)
[12:10] <justmeh> daze, interesting question.
[12:10] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:10] <Lynx_> Hi all! I have some trouble starting sshd. I try with "sudo service ssh start" and get the message ist was started. But when I check with ps it's not running, and I also can't connect. Where would I find the error? Is there a log file?
[12:11] <erbo> Lynx_: Check /var/log/syslog
[12:12] <erbo> you can also try starting it manually to see if you get a clue to what's going on, "/usr/sbin/sshd -D"
[12:13] <Lynx_> erbo: Thanks, I found it already, I had a wrong option in the sshd_conf
[12:13] <nooooo> hello
[12:13] <nooooo> ive a proble:
[12:13] <nooooo> *problem
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> nooooo  let's hear it
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> in 1 line
[12:14] <nooooo> each time i want to install something from the softwarecenter the warning "untrusted packages" appears
[12:14] <erbo> nooooo: sudo apt-key update && sudo apt-get update
[12:14] <nooooo> but just with everything i want to install this happens
[12:15] <nooooo> erbo:  thx i ll try
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> nooooo  what's the output of lsb_release -sd ?
[12:15] <justmeh> btw daze short answer is openssh should be able to do it
[12:16] <justmeh> i had to 'phone a friend' but i gather the suggestion is to point it at the ircd
[12:16] <daze> ok, thanks. I'll look into it now ;)
[12:16] <justmeh> though, any good irc client should be able to ignore the self signed cert errors
[12:16] <justmeh> but i assume you want to explicitly accept this one, and not 'some others' ?
[12:16] <daze> yeah
[12:16] <justmeh> yeah that could differentiate one leaf from another
[12:16] <daze> accepting anything on connect isn't that safe :)
[12:16] <justmeh> yeah
[12:17] <justmeh> ok cool, let me know if it works
[12:17] <nooooo> gpg: Total number processed: 4
[12:17] <nooooo> gpg:              unchanged: 4
[12:17] <justmeh> use memoserv if i'm afk or offline @ daze
[12:20] <Lynx_> Another question: I have just installed Ubuntu, and have a second harddrive in my box. This gets mounted under /media/xxxx. I want to have this permanently mounted under /data, do I have to edit fstab to do this?
[12:20] <justmeh> Lynx_, yeah
[12:21] <justmeh> ok no
[12:21] <Lynx_> justmeh: ok, I thought maybe there was a gui way nowadays, I never know what the number in fstab mean...
[12:21] <justmeh> you can use gparted maybe
[12:22] <ThinkT510> !fstab | Lynx_
[12:23] <Lynx_> ThinkT510: cheers, I'll read that
[12:24] <justmeh> yeah gparted shows mount point but doesnt seem to set it
[12:28] <BluesKaj> justmeh, set the mount points with the partitioner when installing the OS
[12:31] <justmeh> BluesKaj, yeah, was looking for something within the full install to do the same thing
[12:31] <justmeh> for like 30s
[12:31] <justmeh> via gui
[12:31] <justmeh> there is something, i think, but i dont see it atm, too tired ^^;
[12:32] <BluesKaj> use manual partitioning . justmeh then you'll choose the partition , then change and choose / or /home or whatever you need
[12:33] <ThinkT510> BluesKaj: he isn't talking about partitioning an install, he just wants a gui front end for editing fstab
[12:35] <justmeh> ThinkT510, actually to be just slightly more precise, Lynx_ wanted it :P
[12:35] <BluesKaj> ok ThinkT510 , guess i should have scrolled back ...never heard of a fstab gui tho
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> Lynx_  try mountmanager, it's in the software center
[12:42] <troop> hello, i wonder if there is an option about sleep mode something like this; when i watch a movie it will dedect the process and will wait for the finish video and will sleep. similary windows 7 or 8
[12:43] <chris_> Is there a way to change the colour of the active and in-active tabs in the ubuntu terminal application? They are so similar that I can barely see a difference, which it makes it hard to know which tab im in.
[12:48] <henn1nk> hello guys. which package do i need to install for paperclip (rubyonrails) + imagemagick for png usage?
[12:48] <rocky> what's everyone's favourite gmail notifier (that integrates with unity's messaging dropdown) for ubuntu 12.10 ? i can't seem to get any to work
[12:49] <henn1nk> hello guys. which package do i need to install for paperclip (rubyonrails) + imagemagick for png usage? i tried out libmagickwand-dev but that didn't help.
[13:00] <Eagleman> Can this be done without writing 2 files to the disk, tar -cvpzf $file /media/backups/wd500gb/backups/rsnapshot/weekly.0/
[13:00] <Eagleman> gpg --yes --always-trust --encrypt --recipient 'robin@eagleman.net' $file
[13:02] <Eagleman> Instead of making a tar and encrypting the tar, i want an encrypted tar
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  guess you better ask in #bash
[13:05] <KNIGHT-RAK> hi all , i forget my ebox password how can i change or find with ssh in my host ?
[13:05] <fairuz> Eagleman: You can just pipe the tar to the gpg right?
[13:06] <goudkov> are there any recommendations against using aptitude with 64-bit 12.04? i'm getting some "internal resolver" messages when trying aptitude install, and no errors when trying apt-get install for the same packages.
[13:07] <goudkov> i also read some posts about there being problems with aptitude and multiarch.
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> goudkov  apt-get
[13:07] <goudkov> MonkeyDust: ?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> goudkov  use apt-get, not aptitude
[13:08] <KNIGHT-RAK> how can stop ebox ?
[13:08] <Eagleman> fairuz, i wont end it with a file.tar.gz and file.tar.gz.gpg file?
[13:08] <goudkov> MonkeyDust: right. but is there some statement from ubuntu about it? or is it common wisdom?
[13:08] <goudkov> I've been using aptitude for a long time. really used to it.
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> !aptitude | goudkov there you go
[13:09] <goudkov> now, upgrading to 64-bit and things seems to not work
[13:09] <goudkov> so i'm trying to figure out if i should abandon aptitude completely and get used to apt-get instead
[13:09] <fairuz> Eagleman: If you pipe, you will not have the .tar
[13:10] <goudkov> MonkeyDust: ok, thanks
[13:13] <daze> justmeh: I was able to extract the certificate by using `openssl s_client -connect irc.myserver.net:6697` and copying the base64-encoded certificate block to a .crt file which I then imported into user's certificates. It seems to be good, except that the certificate in question is expired, so I'm not able to 100% confirm this. It expired ~20 days ago, so a new one should be issued by now. I'll alert the admins. Thanks for your help ;)
[13:14] <deathofbox> I was wondering if a computer using Linux can be hacked and remotely controlled.
[13:14] <deathofbox> Is it possible? I'm a little bit paranoid that I've been the target of an unscrupulous individual
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> deathofbox  wrong channel
[13:15] <ThinkT510> deathofbox: of course it can
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> deathofbox  discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[13:15] <deathofbox> ThinkT510: someone on Dalnet threatened to hack into my computer. He started doing a lot ctcp ping commands directed to my username. should I be scared?
[13:15] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: that is not offtopic here, its a security question
[13:16] <iceroot> deathofbox: no you should not be scared
[13:17] <deathofbox> Ok. Thanks for the reassurance. At the very least I have my firewall on if that helps at all.
[13:17] <ThinkT510> deathofbox: a ping is harmless
[13:17] <iceroot> deathofbox: 1. when someone says "i will hack you" you know that it will not happen because a real hacker knows what the word "hacking" means, 2. there are a few things you can do to avoid security riscs, dont run software as root when not needed, dont give your passwords away, always install the latestes secuerity updates by using software-center
[13:18] <deathofbox> iceroot: Thank you very much for that! Pardon my ignorance if I throw around the word Hacker loosely. I will admit that I am completely ignorant when it comes to that subject matter.
[13:18] <cfhowlett> deathofbox, and do not use your administrative account for daily use.
[13:19] <deathofbox> cfhowlett: Gotcha. I'll create a non-administrative account then.
[13:19] <iceroot> deathofbox: but on GNU/Linux there is no reason to be afraid. its always good to be carefully and to ask if you have questions
[13:20] <deathofbox> iceroot: That's good to know. And yes, I agree that you can never be too careful.
[13:23] <Valorosu> hello guys
[13:23] <Valorosu> im a bagabont
[13:23] <Valorosu>  whana do nasty stuffs?
[13:23] <Valorosu> smoke baluba
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Valorosu, ???? this is ubuntu support.
[13:24] <Valorosu> what?
[13:24] <Valorosu> idoah;dfshsdfatijkdy7iasef\
[13:24] <Valorosu> ';lafpsfzd ;oj
[13:24] <Valorosu> ]aew4t'\
[13:28] <goshWork> the fck was that :O
[13:28] <DJones> Ignore it, they're gone anyway
[13:29] <cfhowlett> goshWork, move along, people.
[13:29] <goshTummyHurts> nothing to see :D
[13:29] <goshTummyHurts> i see :]
[13:33] <BluesKaj> really quiet in the 'buntu chats today ...supposedly this is statistically the saddest day of the year in the Nothern Hemisphere... how's that for an uplifting statement ...now we can move on :)
[13:35] <fishcooker> is cron really essential service?
[13:36] <Pici> fishcooker: I'd consider it essential.
[13:37] <fishcooker> hmm so it automatically loaded from start Pici
[13:38] <Pici> fishcooker: its part of our most minimal disk image and yes, it starts at boot.
[13:39] <fishcooker> ok no offense pici, thanks for the info
[13:43] <hambone2> Am I on the Ubuntu channel yet?
[13:43] <iceroot> hambone2: yes
[13:43] <cfhowlett> hambone2, what's the problem
[13:43] <hambone2> oh, nice, not much chatting atm, confused me.
[13:44] <cfhowlett> hambone2, this is the support channel.  general chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:44] <BluesKaj> yeah ,real busy in here today
[13:45] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, must mean those *buntu systems are working right!
[13:46] <hambone2> I use Ubuntu on my own computer and like it very much. Thanks for the great experience, but... my dad's new computer came with Windows8 and it is messed up. I wanted to just put Ubuntu on it, but the new computer is like locked up or something with that new "secure boot" that is preinstalled on some Dell computers.
[13:46] <goshHates> everything written before a "but" is superfluous :D
[13:46] <cfhowlett> !uefi|hambone2,
[13:47] <FlowRiser> cfhowlett,  yes, same thing on my school computer ... O.o
[13:47] <FlowRiser> can't even boot of usb because of password, can't install from wubi ... i'm stuck using windows
[13:47]  * cfhowlett *wubi*  shudder ...
[13:48] <Ben64> they keep saying secure boot won't stop linux or anything, but so many people have problems with it
[13:49] <FlowRiser> why do a secure boot ? what was wrong with the las one ? >.<
[13:49] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, flow no cdrom drive
[13:49] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:49] <ericshell> does anyone know how to add a window manager manually built to the list of available managers at the login screen of ubuntu 12? i cant remember, been a while
[13:49] <hambone2> So, here is my question: Is there a way to download an image file on my Ubuntu computer, burn that image to a DVD with Brasero and then use that DVD to start the UEFI computer? I'm confused because when I went to download Ubuntu for Windows it offered me a file with an .exe extention, which I don't think will work right as a booter.
[13:50] <ericshell> built e16 but cant get it to list at the login screen
[13:50] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, you?  I heard PXE is the method for a no drive option ... or USB
[13:50] <BluesKaj> I meant FlowRiser , no cdrom or usb
[13:50] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> hambone2, ubuntu for windows is wubi.  Not recommended except for testing ubuntu
[13:50] <FlowRiser> BluesKaj, it has a password on bios and it's set to boot from the hdd first O.o
[13:51] <Ben64> FlowRiser: get rid of the password
[13:51] <FlowRiser> I know, but that would mean opening the case!
[13:51] <Ben64> yep
[13:52] <BluesKaj> what about boot sequence ..perhaps gparted on media can help ?
[13:52] <FlowRiser> i think those pcs are new or something, coul void their warranty ... Plus, i doubt the teacher won't notice me  opening the case.
[13:52] <maxagaz_> do you know a tool to convert a psd image to gimp xfc image (keeping all the elements of the image) ?
[13:52] <FlowRiser> BluesKaj, i tried that ...
[13:53] <maxagaz_> I mean psd to xcf
[13:53] <FlowRiser> maxagaz_, yes, use gimp
[13:53] <cfhowlett> maxagaz_, gimp
[13:53] <hambone2> Is there a version of Ubuntu that comes with the "secure key" that lets Windows8 preloaded machines recognize it as an authentic OS?
[13:54] <somsip> !uefi | hambone2
[13:54] <cfhowlett> hambone2, quick and ez.  Install virtualbox in windows.  install ubuntu in virtual box
[13:55] <ericshell> does anyone know how to add a window manager manually built to the list of available managers at the login screen of ubuntu 12? i cant remember, been a while
[13:55] <BluesKaj> FlowRiser, what did you try ?
[13:56] <hambone2> Thank you cfhowlett, but the new Win8 machine won't even boot up at all. The Win8 OS is refusing to boot, plus I hated it anyway, but when I went to load up Ubuntu it wouldn't recognize the boot disk because or "secure boot." I will read the blue link from ubottu...
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> ericshell  this here shows how to remove them, guess it helps if you want to add some http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[13:57] <cfhowlett> hambone2, can't help with windows.  ask ##microsoft or take that machine back to the store
[13:58] <ericshell> ty
[13:58] <Beifong> isn't there a option for wget to stop trying when a read error occurs
[13:58] <Beifong> I've checked all the options in --help
[13:59] <FlowRiser> BluesKaj, i tried booting of cd, usb, wubi, assisted boot, parting a partition and installing manually on that (didn't have enough permisiions to do that)
[13:59] <hambone2> @cfhowlett, yes, we will take the machine back to the store if we can't get Ubuntu loaded, but are trying to avoid that because we live way out in the country and the store is miles away. I think I see the solution on the ubottu link. It says download the 64 bit version on Ubuntu and it will be able to talk to the newfangled laptops.
[14:01] <njd001> I am looking for a way to convert my physical HDD into an image so i can wipe my corporate image install ubuntu and then boot my corporate image as a vm in ubuntu any suggestions ?
[14:01] <cfhowlett> njd001, dd or remastersys are tools to look into
[14:01] <blackangel> i get this message window:
[14:01] <blackangel> One or more tools required for installations cannot be found on the system.
[14:01] <blackangel> Install the required tool before installing the fglrx driver. Optionally, run the
[14:01] <blackangel> installer with --force option to instal without the tools. Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration and may make your system unstable.
[14:01] <blackangel> Not recommend.
[14:01] <blackangel> See /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log for more details.
[14:01] <FloodBot1> blackangel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:01] <blackangel> And inside that log it says:
[14:02] <blackangel> any one using 12.10 wit an ATI card?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> njd001  start here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=953738
[14:03] <njd001> well heres the thing the baseline image is a windows image on the SSD i just want to compress and delete it install ubuntu and bring it back as a vm on ubuntu.
[14:03] <njd001> remastersys looks like its *nix backup ?
[14:04] <hambone2> Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate you being here for us newbies. I am downloading the suggested version of Ubuntu from SourceForge now and I think it will work on my dad's computer. Bye for now.
[14:05] <cfhowlett> hambone2, SOURCEFORGE?  Why not download directly from ubuntu?  Better yet, use the torrents and save time and bandwith
[14:05] <njd001> ah thats what i wanted
[14:06] <Greenshirt> windows minded
[14:06] <iceroot> !anyone | blackangel
[14:06] <Pinkamena_D> stupid question, but...If i had a mac address in the "cloned mac address field" and i
[14:06] <Pinkamena_D> deleted the profile
[14:06] <iceroot> !enter | Pinkamena_D
[14:06] <Pinkamena_D> if their anywhere else that mac was stored?
[14:06] <hambone2> Uh, I would have picked a torrent, but the link sent me to a short list. Good idea though, I don't like waiting 15 minutes for the image file to download, plus I can pay back by seeding when I find it.
[14:06] <njd001> i was pondering DD i'll go read but i assume DD would run from LiveCD boot and allow me to dump it to an external disk.
[14:06] <Pinkamena_D> my bad
[14:06] <cfhowlett> njd001, sounds like a plan
[14:07] <njd001> thanks guys!
[14:07] <cfhowlett> njd001, have fun, be safe
[14:07] <iceroot> Pinkamena_D: the mac is stored in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent- and it will be assigned to eth0 for example, if you change your mac you will get eth1
[14:07] <Pinkamena_D> like a log somewhere?
[14:07] <iceroot> Pinkamena_D: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[14:08]  * njd001 is a ubuntu convert :)
[14:09] <blackangel> i do not know if my question get out since i didnt use past bin so here it is XD  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1559445/
[14:09] <Pinkamena_D> thank you very much, its still in there!
[14:10] <iceroot> !ati | Pinkamena_D
[14:10] <iceroot> Pinkamena_D: sorry wrong nick
[14:10] <hambone2> Please tell me where the torrent links are for downloading ubuntu? All I keep getting are  links to the direct download.
[14:10] <iceroot> !ati | blackangel
[14:10] <iceroot> Pinkamena_D: and it will never delete there automaticly, you have to delete it by yourself if you dont wnat that mac anymore assigned to eth0 for example
[14:10] <iceroot> !torretns | hambone2
[14:10] <iceroot> !torrents | hambone2
[14:12] <hambone2> Thanks iceroot.
[14:19] <craigbass1976> I've got a fellow trying to connect to an ubuntu box from windows 7 using remote desktop (the windows app)  It works, but only as root.  What privs does root have that we don't that would cause this?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> craigbass1976, is he an admin? No?  Then he shouldn't be root!
[14:21] <blackangel> he said it works only when you are root
[14:21] <blackangel> XD
[14:22] <craigbass1976> He owns the business, he can do what he wants. :)  But he does see that he shouldn't be remoting in as root...
[14:23] <cfhowlett> craigbass1976, ah.  my mistake.
[14:24] <Ronalds_M> hello everyone
[14:24] <Ronalds_M> for some reason I have mac osx iso file left on my ubuntu, and I wanted to use oracel virtual box but it fails to start at all?
[14:24] <mad_> I vaguely remember there was a commandline tool to manage ppa repositories.
[14:24] <mad_> Can anyone give me a hint?
[14:25] <Ronalds_M> I ussualy add ppain software center
[14:25] <Ronalds_M> not a command line fan that much
[14:26] <mad_> add-apt-repository I guess
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> hello fellas, could someone please lend a helping hand with this issue?
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/5822964
[14:29] <mad_> There is no 'add-apt-repository' as said on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_PPAs <.<
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> I tried installing some skype-call-video recorder and it could be becuase of that
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> though i did a apt-get remove skype-call-recorder --purge
[14:29] <mad_> Ops, sorry, typo. Sutpid me
[14:29] <mad_> There is
[14:30] <Ronalds_M> you can't install what Wiz_Keed?
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> it's in the paste
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> qbzr
[14:31] <wjtaylor_> Is anyone having an issue with Nautilus in 12.04. It doesn't recognize double-clicks... has issues with single clicks.. anyone? This is on a Dell XT2.
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> or i havn't included that in the paste by mistake
[14:31] <Wiz_KeeD> apt-get install qbzr
[14:33] <Ronalds_M> I don't know what that qbzr is for, but try installing trough different source
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> !info qbzr
[14:34] <Ronalds_M> it's probably missing that python thingy and other things you pasted
[14:34] <Linux39> Hi All,
[14:34] <Linux39> im new to linux
[14:34] <Linux39> i have installed ubuntu server 12.10
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> well it should install the dependecies
[14:35] <jordanrain> How do I get folder shares to stick on reboot?
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> but it says there is some broken pacakge or whatnot
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> any idea what that is?
[14:35] <Linux39> may i know how to publish a html sites
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> Linux39  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[14:35] <Linux39> ok thanks
[14:36] <Ronalds_M> new to linux, installs server os, great start
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Ronalds_M, agreed
[14:38] <soahccc> Isn't it stupid to disconnect ssh users when their key isn't recognized while allowing password authentication? I was curious why the connection always got disconnected, it refuses my offered key and then disconnects me
[14:43] <iceroot> soahccc: and the connection will refuse also when the password is missing/wrong
[14:43] <iceroot> soahccc: so what is the issue?
[14:45] <llutz> soahccc: allowing "PasswordAuthentication yes" is always stupid
[14:45] <Wiz_KeeD> help?
[14:46] <soahccc> iceroot: I was just interested, it is an external sftp but I was searching an hour for the cause. I could connect from a Windows machine but all my *nix systems were failing unless I discovered it is the offered key
[14:46] <soahccc> s/unless/until
[14:47] <Makdaam> hello
[14:48] <jhutchins> soahccc: Given that the vast majority of internet connections are protected with passwords, your statement is unreasonably broad.
[14:48] <Makdaam> I'm stuck installing ubuntu server on a headless KVM server with "Undefined video mode number: 314"
[14:48] <jhutchins> soahccc: Sorry, it wasn't you it was llutz.
[14:49] <Makdaam> is there a working way to install ubuntu without any graphics (ie. only text console)
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> !text | Makdaam
[14:49] <ThinkT510> !mini | Makdaam
[14:49] <Makdaam> ThinkT510: mini has the same problem... oh I didn't mention I was booting alternate
[14:50] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[14:50] <jhutchins> Makdaam: In other words yes, you just have to do manual package selection and not select a desktop environment.
[14:50] <bab> orudie, good question
[14:50] <Makdaam> jhutchins: I can't even get to the installer terminal :) because the curses installer can't work without a graphics card
[14:51] <Makdaam> jhutchins: or at least something along the way of booting it
[14:51] <orudie> bab, thanks, well is there a way to change it ?
[14:52] <soahccc> llutz: I was glad in the first place that it is at least no FTP to get those (sensitive) data. Although I know regret it a bit due to this stupid error :/ I was wondering if British telecom have a highly secure or just a crap SSH config
[14:52] <llutz> jhutchins: a. this refers to ssh b. if you have the choice password vs key, passwords are stupid  and c. at "the vast majority of internet connection" you doesn't habe the choice
[14:52] <llutz> s/habe/have/
[14:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Anyone please?
[14:54] <jhutchins> Makdaam: What kind of connection are you installing from?
[14:55] <bab> orudie, I'm not a pro, ask the question again here
[14:56] <jhutchins> Makdaam: There is a fairly good chance you've mis-diagnosed your problem.
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> Does anyone know how to fix this?
[14:56] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/5823260
[14:56] <Makdaam> jhutchins: yes there is... I'll work around it by getting a working vm image and cloning it
[14:57] <ThinkT510> Wiz_KeeD: have you added any ppas?
[14:57] <Wiz_KeeD> what are those?
[14:57] <llutz> Wiz_KeeD: sudo apt-get -f install
[14:57] <ThinkT510> !ppa | Wiz_KeeD
[14:57] <Wiz_KeeD> i remember adding a repository for some obscure software that i didn't need
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried that llutz
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> it didn't work :(
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> i also tried instaling some softwarehttp://atdot.ch/scr/download/
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> sorry: http://atdot.ch/scr/download/
[14:58] <Wiz_KeeD> which crashed and the end of the install
[14:59] <ThinkT510> Wiz_KeeD: using software from outside the official repos is probably the cause for 99% of all the dependency problem i've seen here
[14:59] <Wiz_KeeD> I really need that package and i don't know why it's broken
[14:59] <Wiz_KeeD> Well i won't touch them again that's for sure but now there's the problem of solving everything and going back
[14:59] <Wiz_KeeD> :(
[14:59] <sls> in #als
[14:59] <sls> hello
[15:00] <ThinkT510> Wiz_KeeD: first step is to remove them
[15:00] <Wiz_KeeD> i did apt-get remove skype-call-recorder --purge
[15:00] <ThinkT510> Wiz_KeeD: not just the software but also the repositories
[15:01] <Wiz_KeeD> well this software that i've added now isn't from a repo
[15:01] <Wiz_KeeD> just downloaded and used deb
[15:01] <ThinkT510> Wiz_KeeD: then you can sudo apt-get update
[15:01] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i remove that last repository which i forgot the name to :-s
[15:01] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks for helping out by the way, pretty desperate
[15:01] <helmut_> hi
[15:02] <iceroot> soahccc: when you are facing problems connectin with ssh, you should try ssh -v user@host to get a good debug-info about the reason
[15:06] <darkrusu> #join semarang
[15:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ThinkT510?
[15:08] <ThinkT510> Wiz_KeeD: i can't tell you how because i've never needed to do it myself, but at least you know what you need to do
[15:10] <w1k> hello, greetings from my atari800:)
[15:12] <deadmund> How do I use the dig command to look up a specific domain name at a specific dns server?  (For example, dig yahoo.com @8.8.8.8  is timing out, what am I doing wrong?)
[15:12] <MraAlbertina> w1k: wow from atary800 ... :o can you help me installing on my microwave (900 watts)?
[15:13] <leecy> Hi
[15:14] <leecy> I'm having a problem with USB input devices going through a KVM to Ubuntu
[15:14] <leecy> occasionally, Ubuntu will cease listening to the devices and won't resume listening until restarted
[15:16] <heywood> what are the best options for remote accessing an ubuntu box behind a firewall/NAT router from outside the network? is the current version of ssh and related tools considered to be secure? i have 12.04.1 LTS.
[15:16] <leecy> dmesg results shows a barrage of errors hub_port_status failed (err = -110)
[15:16] <deadmund> heywood: yes, ssh is very secure
[15:17] <leecy> I was able to get to dmesg because I also have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse set on the computer- this seems to happen with every distro I use
[15:19] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[15:19] <leecy> any idea why this can happen? I also have two Wintel boxes and a Mac connected to the same KVM, and they don't exhibit this behavior.
[15:19] <heywood> deadmund: ok, ssh gets me a root shell for basic admin tasks. if i want to do something fancier (tunneling a VNC connection through it, exporting a display, etc.), what else would i need to install? something like vncviewer?
[15:20] <deadmund> heywood: You should never ssh as root or allow the root user to ssh.  YOu should ssh as yourself (a normal user) and then use sudo or su if you need to.
[15:20] <deadmund> heywood: To vnc you need to install vncviewer :P  I can find a guide if you need more specifics.  BTW, vnc over the Internet is slow.
[15:21] <deadmund> heywood: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/dtg/attarchive/vnc/sshvnc.html
[15:21] <deadmund> heywood: ssh -X (referred to as x forwarding) is more efficient
[15:22] <Wiz_KeeD> help! :(
[15:22] <heywood> deadmund: ah, ok. but i'm a little confused about ubuntu's users setup. right now the root password is not enabled (as per ubuntu default), but my one user account is labelled as administrative.
[15:22] <heywood> deadmund: so i can ssh into the box as myself, then sudo for admin stuff.
[15:23] <heywood> deadmund: i have a remote X server running here so ssh -X would work just fine.
[15:23] <deadmund> heywood: Yeah, your account is administrative meaning you can assume the identity of root (by using sudo).  Sudo users your own password to switch to the root user, thus there is not root password
[15:23] <deadmund> heywood: ssh as yourself, then use sudo, that is correct
[15:23] <deadmund> heywood: ssh -X is great :)
[15:23] <heywood> deadmund: so is it the case than an "administrative" user is just incloded in sudoers?
[15:24] <enbloc> when using ssh with X forwarding, if I run firefox on the remote machine, it appears to see if I have one running locally, and it then opens a tab in my local firefox, refusing to create a new instance on the remote machine (which may not have the same network visibility). I've tried to disable this, but my googlefu is weak, and I can't accurately and uniquely describe the problem in searchable terms.
[15:24] <phschwartz> What is the best channel to ask questions about deb packaging for ubuntu?
[15:24] <heywood> phschwartz: #ubuntu-packaging ?
[15:25] <deadmund> heywood: in ubuntu, yes
[15:25] <deadmund> enchilado: firefox --no-remote
[15:25] <enbloc> thanks deadmund
[15:26] <deadmund> enbloc: sure
[15:26] <Lofde_> I am using ubuntu, i have a hard drive that i took out of a windows 8 machine, it has all kinds of weird partitions an ESP 524mb fat, DIAGS 42 fat, Unknown 134mb, WINRETOOLS 524MB NTFS, an OS partition 491GB, and a PBR Image 7.8GB NTFS.. i did a "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd bs=512" and wrote 0's to the entire drive, but i still cant 'format' the drive, when i try to ask for a password to authenticate can anyone help?
[15:27] <heywood> deadmund: ok. so since i have everything else set up, is it just a matter of starting sshd (manually, via init.d, etc.) on the ubuntu box then?
[15:27] <deadmund> heywood: If you installed openssh-server it will be started by default for you (already placed in init.d)
[15:28] <heywood> deadmund: ah, ok. i haven't (yet). do you know if the post-install scripts run by apt would start it?
[15:29] <deadmund> heywood: I don't know if it starts after install...
[15:29] <deadmund> heywood: you can start it: sudo service sshd start
[15:29] <bono> Lofde_: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd even zeroes the partition table; you need a new one. I recommend gparted
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, this might help , but since you've aready tried write 0s to drive , dunno if it will work , http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[15:30] <heywood> deadmund: that's easy enough. last thing: my router can do port forwarding (though it's not set up right now). as i recall, ssh listens on port 22. is there any security benefit in forwarding some high-numbered port from the WAN to 22 on the LAN side?
[15:30] <Lofde_> these uefi pc's are making me so mad... i had to change all kinds of bios settings to install windows 7 to that computer and replace the drive to get it to function... no one likes windows 8 :/
[15:31] <goshHates> Lofde_ thats why they force us to use that shit :]
[15:31] <goshHates> no1 would use win8 if it wasnt such a pain in the ass to change the os =D
[15:31] <goshHates> but its even more cruel to use win8, so its worth the time changing :>
[15:32] <deadmund> heywood: I'm glad you brought that up! ! :)
[15:32] <BluesKaj> lof  it's not windows 8 itself , it MS trying to become more proprietary and prevent , or making it a PITA to install other OSs in guise of security features
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Lofde_,^'
[15:33] <Lofde_> **f*cking windows 8.... get bill gates in here**
[15:33] <deadmund> heywood: generally, using a non-standard port is rather effective at hiding from script kiddies.  However, this is security through obscurity.  Basically you're not hiding in a better place, just a different place.  So... yeah.  What's better is to use some of the automated systems that automatically block brute force attempts by watching logs and editing a blocklist.
[15:33] <hje841> any one got an idea as to why /dev/ttyUSB0 gives 'resource temporarily unavailable' in my own code (C++) when it's run on a 12.04 in a vm on Win7? ( I know)
[15:33] <deadmund> heywood: like this
[15:33] <deadmund> http://www.sshguard.net/
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, Bill gates is retired , blame Ray Ozzie
[15:34] <heywood> deadmund: main issue for me is that i just left the place where the ubuntu box is, and am now far away for a while :(
[15:34] <heywood> unfortunately i didn't have time to set up secure remote access before i left
[15:34] <deadmund> heywood: You generally can't configure the router from outside the lan
[15:34] <Pici> heywood, deadmund: fail2ban is a popular tool for preventing login attempts.
[15:34] <heywood> so i have to walk a (very non-technical) person through those steps.
[15:34] <Pici> !info fail2ban
[15:34] <deadmund> Pici: thanks :)
[15:35] <Astradeus> ubuntu-precise: how can i find the package which created a user/group? (ssl-cert or scanner for example)
[15:35] <deadmund> heywood: yes, have fun!  Easiest thing might be to ssh in, shut off ssh and then go there yourself when you get a chance
[15:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Can someone please help me remove repositories form 12.04? :(
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> i tried editing the source.list and i see no extra repository there maybe i missed something :(
[15:36] <heywood> deadmund: i will certainly do that when i'm there next. but i need to do some admin in the meantime, so stopping sshd altogether won't work.
[15:36] <heywood> i'll try sshguard and fail2ban, as you suggested.
[15:37] <deadmund> heywood: If it's short term there is very low chance the brute force attacks will work.  Especially if you have an ever remotely good password
[15:37] <soahccc> How can I prevent ssh from sending my key? I found two settings but they are v1 specific :/
[15:37] <heywood> and i have LAN-side config disabled on the router, so i'll need to get that fixed via "meatspace VNC" (i.e. asking the non-techie person over the phone to type specific things at the keyboard)
[15:38] <heywood> deadmund: password is reasonably safe behind the firewall, but if i'm going to expose it to the big bad Intarwebs i'll feel safer with a much longer one
[15:38] <deadmund> heywood: yeah, well... sounds like you need to instruct that meat-bag
[15:38] <heywood> (not schneier's "epic passpoem," but something similar)
[15:39] <wjtaylor_> Does anyone else have trouble clicking on icons in nautilus? It works in list view, but not with icons.
[15:39] <Lofde_> i can understand them using uefi , but they've made this hard drive some how password encrypted where changes to it cant be made :/.. the user didnt set any special hard drive password to it.. gparted is giving me an error when trying to change the partition table..
[15:39] <heywood> deadmund: errr... that "meat-bag" is my dad :o
[15:40] <deadmund> heywood: haha, didn't mean to offend!
[15:40] <heywood> deadmund: no worries. no offence taken. :)
[15:42] <CreativeEmbassy> first time install, I'm taken directly to gnu grub version 1.99-21ubuntu3
[15:42] <CreativeEmbassy> how do I get into ubuntu?
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone help on the broken package issue?
[15:46] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  I havent followed, try sudo apt-get -f install // also check if you do not have a mix of i386 and amd64 packages
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, my understanding is the partitioning has to be done insude w8 then the page i p[osted has instructions how to work around the uefi and get to the bios (most) machines still have it but it's hidden , then you can setup the boot sequence etc
[15:47] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, thank you for helping out i tried the first i don't know about the seonc thing you said
[15:48] <Wiz_KeeD> do what in the Pici?
[15:48] <Pici> Wiz_KeeD: You said you couldn't locate the sources.list for the extra repository.  The files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ get sourced for entries, so you might find the file you're looking for in there.
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here
[15:48] <Lofde_> i took the drive out.. was going to "write over it" with a windows 7 image i have using acronis 2011, when acronis wouldnt see the drive then i had to quickly just take a spare sata drive , write the image to it, then it wouldnt boot in the pc... then i had to go into the bios , disable uefi , set it to legacy boot, and the windows 7 fired up on the new drive, this old hard drive though i would like to use it in some aspect but trying to get t
[15:48] <Lofde_> he drive usable now is becoming the big issue
[15:49] <Wiz_KeeD> one seccond MonkeyDust
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/5824860
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> this all started because of some broken packages MonkeyDust :(
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  are you using PPAs ?
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I think i've added one when i tried to add some software to browse my android phone
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> which can only be placed in media transfer shit something
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> and i added a repo then but i forgot it's name
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  i guess that PPA is the culprit
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> that's why i wanted to remove it, how can i remove it? :(
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !ppa-purge
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> that's just it, repository-name
[15:54] <Wiz_KeeD> i don't know it :(
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  or system settings, sources
[15:54] <Wiz_KeeD> no such thing as sources in system settings
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  it's software sources
[15:55] <Lofde_> success, i dont know how but after writing all 0's to the entire disk, using gparted and trying over and over to 'write a new partition table to it' it would keep erroring out, telling me it was unsuccessfully but slowly started deleting one partition at a time and finally i could write a proper partition table and then format the drive :)
[15:56] <Wiz_KeeD> so how do i find out the package name?
[15:56] <Wiz_KeeD> isn't there like a reset command?
[15:56] <MichaelP> On my netbook i have 23 inch HD tv hooked up to hdmi... How do i make grub and plymounth boot show on both screens like it does on the livecd ?
[15:58] <Wiz_KeeD> MonkeyDust, i have history of changes installs and whatnot
[15:58] <Wiz_KeeD> can that help?
[15:59] <Wiz_KeeD> just the names of the packages and not the repositories
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Lofde_, cool , glad to hear that
[16:00] <Freeaq> Hi. I bought a usb wlan dongle, but when I plug it in, networkmanager doesn't pick it up. lsusb shows it just fine though. How can I fix my wifi?
[16:00] <kunaishuriken> You probably don't have the driver for it
[16:00] <Freeaq> os: 12.04 lts
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  i think the "Translation" thing is what you have to remove
[16:01] <Wiz_KeeD> why would you say that?
[16:02] <Wiz_KeeD> what do you think about this MonkeyDust http://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  guess you can try that
[16:06] <MichaelP> On my netbook i have 23 inch HD tv hooked up to hdmi... How do i make grub and plymounth boot show on both screens like it does on the livecd ?
[16:08] <Wiz_KeeD> any other advice MonkeyDust ?:(
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> same thing...FUCK
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/5825263
[16:10] <go8765> MichaelP: mb this help http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-grub-customizer-302-in-ubuntu.html
[16:10] <nextb> hello am new in linux wanna format my flsh drive in command line
[16:10] <nextb> how could i do that
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm fucked...
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  ok, but mind your language
[16:11] <DJones> 99.33
[16:11] <DJones> Grr
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  backup your personal data and reinstall ubuntu, if all else fails
[16:12] <davidjones> I need help with connecting to my VPN, I have a pptp and openvpn through anonine and everytime I try to connect the icon just flashes than stops and says VPN service failed to start/Connection attempt timed out
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> i've already done that, it takes a lot of time
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> i messed up one repo and i have to reinstall ubuntu...that's silly! :(
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  a lot of time is better than stagnating, like now
[16:12] <Wiz_KeeD> that's messed up
[16:12] <MichaelP> go8765, is that going to show grub and plymouth on the external monitor ?
[16:15] <go8765> MichaelP: sorry. no. i dont fully understand what you want
[16:17] <MichaelP> go8765, i have an external monitor when booting livecd.. grub and plymouth show on both screens.. but once ubuntu is installed.. it only shows on the laptop screen. I want it to show on both screens again
[16:18] <Touhou11> MichaelP: Have you tried configuring it?
[16:18] <MichaelP> Touhou11, If i new how i would not be asking
[16:18] <go8765> MichaelP: you see your second monitor in display settings?
[16:19] <jose5> I am trying to configure printing permissions for an admin user.  Any printing gurus here?
[16:19] <MichaelP> go8765, yes
[16:20] <Touhou11> jose5: Have you read the CUPS documentation?
[16:20] <go8765> MichaelP: so you enle option "mirror displays" in this dialog?
[16:20] <go8765> *enable
[16:21] <jose5> that's where I got stuck I have all printers working but need to configure  admin who can only clear the queue
[16:21] <MichaelP> go8765, im in kde so it probly alittle different
[16:23] <BluesKaj> MichaelP, I answered your question in#kubuntu
[16:23] <MichaelP> k
[16:23] <go8765> MichaelP: with kde I cant help. but if you try ubuntu desktop, I think all be work good. (I have the ssame problem today with xfce, but when I try ubuntu-all become work)
[16:24] <Wiz_KeeD> AHA!!
[16:24] <Wiz_KeeD> back tracked it MonkeyDust
[16:24] <Wiz_KeeD> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/unstable
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Wiz_KeeD  great! thumbs up!
[16:24] <BluesKaj> I'm assuming hdmi isn't much differnt
[16:24] <MichaelP> go8765, alright..
[16:25] <Wiz_KeeD> but if that's not the problem then i'm dead
[16:26] <silvericy> Hello! i am trying to download unity webplayer to linux
[16:27] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[16:30] <silvericy> Hello! i am trying to download unity webplayer to linux
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> silvericy  that's great, but did you have a question?
[16:31] <silvericy> How do i download unity webplayer to linux OS4?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> silvericy  what's linux OS4 ?
[16:31] <silvericy> it is a lightweight version of linux
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> silvericy  this is the ubuntu support channel, better ask in the OS4 channel, then
[16:32] <Pici> silvericy: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.  Use ##linux or their channel for support please.
[16:32] <eSa|> how do I set gnome-terminal title from command-line inside a running instance in xfce window manager?
[16:32] <silvericy> kk-thanks
[16:33] <xenmax> hi, is is possible to execute windows xp from ubuntu 12.10? In my case i would like to execute my windos xp sp3 installed in one of my partitions.
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> xenmax  try virtualbox, it's the closest you can get, i guess
[16:37] <Hatori> how we can reconfigure console fonts ? Its looks too big
[16:37] <lovre> hi all. I have just receive a software update notification saying there are updates for "RPM shared library" and other RPM related stuff.. Why do i have those on ubuntu (mint actually), arent they for redhat?
[16:38] <xangua> !mint | lovre
[16:38] <bazhang> lovre, ask mintsupport
[16:38] <lovre> bazhang: ok thank you
[16:38] <Hatori> how we can reconfigure console fonts ? Its looks too big
[16:39] <Hatori> !console-setup
[16:39] <xenmax> MonkeyDust: thanks but VB is for installing new windows i guess, i want to boost an ALREADY  INSTALLED windows xp sp3
[16:40] <Hatori> !search console-setup
[16:40] <Hatori> !info console-setup
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> xenmax  where does ubuntu in the picture?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> come*
[16:42] <xenmax> ubuntu comes from the fact that it would be the main system
[16:45] <MonkeyDust> xenmax  and you want to use ubuntu, to make windows run faster?
[16:45] <snql> how to send my video (3d quality) up to 64 GB from india?
[16:45] <ncsquid22> snql: FedEx
[16:47] <yak_king> lol nc
[16:49] <yak_king> today's noob project... installing printer! hehe
[16:51] <ehnn> has anybody ever had an issue on ubuntu where emails were CC'd to everybody in their address book with a single URL in them?
[16:51] <ehnn> this is thunderbird 17.0.2 on quantal
[16:51] <xenmax> MonkeyDust:  no, i just need to run windows xp sometimes
[16:52] <ehnn> links all end with yahool2.php but vary otherwise hxxp://www.daume-bauunternehmen.de/images/stories/yahool2.php
[16:53] <quick-> whois quick-
[16:53] <yak_king> sorry ehnn I'm complete noob haven't even used thunderbird yet
[16:53] <h00k> ehnn: It sounds like your mail account is compromised
[16:53] <ehnn> as far as I can tell there isn't any malicious code on the pages of those links
[16:53] <h00k> ehnn: It wouldn't be a thunderbird issue, but it sounds like someone figured out your password and is using it to spam
[16:53] <ehnn> this happened at midnight last night
[16:54] <h00k> ehnn: whos
[16:54] <ehnn> h00k: which password?
[16:54] <Pici> ehnn: is this a gmail account?
[16:54] <h00k> ehnn: who'se the mail provider you have set up? (hotmail, gmail, etc)
[16:54] <h00k> ehnn: your email account password
[16:54] <ehnn> the sent emails are on the local client
[16:54] <wjtaylor_> Bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1560076/
[16:55] <h00k> ehnn: thunderbird will sync folders (sent, outbox, etc), so it could have been done from a web interface with whoever your provider is, and thunderbird synch'd the sent folder.
[16:55] <h00k> ehnn: who is your email provider
[16:55] <ehnn> gmail
[16:55] <h00k> ehnn: I recommend changing your gmail/google password
[16:55] <ehnn> true, her pass could suck less
[16:56] <ehnn> I guess that must be it
[16:56] <h00k> ehnn: it is synching the 'sent' folder, someone just used your account to send a bunch of spam to your contacts :(
[16:56] <ehnn> I've looked everywhere on the local system for traces of anything malicious
[16:56] <ehnn> chkrootkit, clamav...
[16:56] <Pici> ehnn: It probably wasn't done from your local machine.
[16:57] <guest12312> whois quick-
[16:57] <ehnn> lol, she doesn't want to change her password
[16:57] <Pici> ehnn: If you login to gmail web, click the details button on the lower right hand side.
[16:57] <ehnn> face-palm
[16:58] <Gnea> !ppa
[16:58] <h00k> ehnn: tell her it's like someone having the keys to her house. It's time to change the lock.
[16:58] <quick-> Is using using Simon on 12.04 ?
[16:59] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[16:59] <ehnn> h00k: yea, I guess I just wanted a second opinion, thanks guys/gals
[17:00] <ehnn> I'll make her change her pass and hope for the best
[17:01] <marcreichelt> Hi!
[17:01] <yak_king> howdy marcreichelt
[17:01] <orudie> i installed dconf-editor, and trying to get to org/gnome/shell/overrides to find the option called workspaces-only-on-primary , but the path org/gnome/shell/ does not exist. i can only get ti /org/gnome in dconf-editor
[17:02] <marcreichelt> I have an Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS 64 bit server installed. I *need* sun-java6-jdk, that's why I installed it via the Flexion script as described on http://www.gaggl.com/2012/04/installing-java6-jdk-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[17:02] <marcreichelt> But now when I want to install tomcat or jenkins APT says it will install the openjdk-6, which I want to prevent
[17:03] <marcreichelt> is there any good way to install Java-based applications from APT without installing the openjdk?
[17:04] <ouyes> I have windows7 64bits on my laptop, and I installed ubuntu 12.04 32bits via usb drive, but I find that, the grub was installed to my usb drive, once I remove the usb drive, there is no boot option to ubuntu,(UEFI).how can make dual boot possible without my usb drive?
[17:04] <quick-> marcreichelt:  http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2012/01/sun-java-6-now-can-be-installed-on.html
[17:05] <marcreichelt> quick-, that's not possible any more (as you can read in the comments on the page you linked)
[17:08] <snkcld1> can anyone confirm that if i use mget or get via FTP, that it will _not_ delete the remote file?
[17:08] <llutz> snkcld1: it shouldn't
[17:09] <yak_king> dang... no driver found for my printer... selecting generic brings up too many options that I don't understand....
[17:09] <yak_king> hi ho hi ho.... off to brother's website I go
[17:10] <Sashmo_> does anyone know if there is a way to connect multiple times to one port??  is there a work around?  I am only able to connect once to a multicast ip and port, but in windows I can do it many times.....
[17:11] <gianni> ciao
[17:11] <gianni> !list
[17:11] <ouyes> anyone have the experence of UEFI boot?
[17:12] <Tom_86> hi
[17:12] <yak_king> howdy Tom!
[17:13] <Tom_86> im new to irc..
[17:13] <gabared> Hi all! I've got apt-get update errors: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[17:13] <gabared> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_quantal-updates_main_i18n_Translation-en
[17:14] <jr1> tom_86: welcome
[17:14] <gabared> Also synaptic and  sofware center crashes
[17:14] <gabared> updatemanager... the same
[17:15] <Ronalds_M> how to reset password in freenode? damn nickserv is saying that I'm not allowed to do that
[17:16] <zyngawow> Hello
[17:16] <yak_king> welcome Tom... I'm new to Linux... and outdated to IRC : )
[17:16] <yak_king> Tom Looks like you've found your way to a room and got a nick without much trouble : )
[17:17] <zero_coder> #philosophy
[17:17] <jr1> Yak_king: what distro are you using
[17:17] <xangua> Ronalds_M: /join #freenode , you'll get better help there
[17:17] <zero_coder> i am sorry
[17:18] <yak_king> lol sorry jrl the red threw me off... thought that was a PM
[17:18] <barraponto> I'm trying to install Ubuntu without uninstalling Windows, it says I can allocate some room for Ubuntu just by sliding a divider
[17:18] <yak_king> ubuntu 12.04LTS on this computer 12.10 on a laptop
[17:18] <barraponto> but it doesn't identify which of the partitions will be used for ubuntu :/
[17:19] <jr1> Im a fan of 12.04 lts
[17:19] <yak_king> so am I so far... couldn't get 12.10 installed right on this antiquated desktop of mine
[17:19] <yak_king> went back to 12.04.... no trouble! well little trouble... somehow installed it back to the flash drive I was coming off of
[17:20] <jr1> 12.10 has ads in the dash
[17:20] <yak_king> wouldn't boot from the computer anyway... but good ole google helped me get through it
[17:20] <yak_king> oh that would be weird!...
[17:20] <maverick710> hi people
[17:20] <yak_king> barely got it installed on the laptop then had some hardware issues (non linux related) so haven't really had a chance to play with it there much
[17:21] <jr1> are you booting from disk or usb for install
[17:21] <yak_king> might end up putting it back to 12.04 if that's the case...
[17:21] <yak_king> did both... booted from usb to make sure it would work then followed install program from the desktop there and went through install
[17:22] <yak_king> after restart it tried to boot from hard drive and brought up blank screen with cursor... crtl alt f1 did nothing...
[17:22] <jr1> sounds like a boot loader problem
[17:23] <raincomputers> Can anyone give me a hand getting my sound to work? Lspci is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1560168/
[17:23] <yak_king> good ole windows three finger solute restarted computer and booted from USB but it was the regular version not the one that normally boots from usb... don't remember exactlyl what I did but followed some google advice to remove usb from the list for some sort of secondary boot
[17:23] <yak_king> then installed all the updated.... pretty well got WELL above my head and now no trouble LOL
[17:23] <khaos> hi is there any way to add to all program icons an option to run under optirun?
[17:24] <yak_king> trying to install printer today... not much luck so far
[17:24] <jr1> try other distros some distros just dont work on some machines
[17:25] <vith> jr1, yak_king: this will take care of the ads in search on 12.10: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[17:25] <raincomputers> Can anyone give me a hand getting my sound to work? Lspci is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1560168/
[17:26] <yak_king> well I had actually started with 12.04lts on this machine using same method with no trouble so knew it would work. like I said THAT problem is fixed now though
[17:26] <yak_king> don't know enough about Linux to fix it again if I have that problem on a future install LOL but is working ok
[17:26] <hilo> What's the difference between system groups and groups a
[17:26] <yak_king> thankyou with!! good stuff
[17:28] <khaos> hi is there any way to add to all program icons an option to run under optirun?
[17:28] <ouyes> khaos, yes, do it one by one on the command line
[17:29] <khaos> ouyes,  i want to add an option in all applications in unity is there a way or a tool to customize it in menus? not in terminal; thanks
[17:29] <ouyes> khaos, afaik, there is none
[17:29] <ouyes> khaos, I have to reboot, bye
[17:29] <yak_king> sorry raincomputers I am a total Linux noob. Wish I could help you
[17:31] <zyngawow> Can anyone help with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/245911/wifi-not-working-after-reboot
[17:31] <MrPopinjay> Anyone know why rsync failed to transfer this file? "rsync: mkstemp "/media/louis/WD-My-Passp/Backup-PinkyMKII/Pictures/.Screenshot from 2012-12-06 13:54:35.png.wRqriy" failed: Invalid argument (22)"
[17:31] <Ronalds_M> unity is customizable by unsettings, ubuntu tweak and some others outes
[17:31] <Ronalds_M> ouyes *
[17:31] <yak_king> a little nerve racking to look on your screen and see "MyUbuntu quit" hehe
[17:31] <Ronalds_M> ccsm is another tool, but it's dangerous and can break unity
[17:32] <PrimeCl0ver> khaos;  you need to make a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/
[17:32] <PrimeCl0ver> or
[17:32] <PrimeCl0ver> you can put on in ~/.local/share/applications
[17:33] <PrimeCl0ver> that should update the Unity Application lenses with any customer programs you add
[17:33] <hamed> graphical interface doesn't start. ((it says low graphic or something))
[17:33] <raincomputers> I need sound :/
[17:33] <raincomputers> Stupid intel chipset :(
[17:34] <skp1> raincomputers: have you checked your sound levels with alsamixer?
[17:35] <moondoggy> Hi there.  Can someone tell me the name of the service that pops up notifications on the desktop?
[17:35] <raincomputers> skpl: I'm so confused
[17:35] <hamed> hey moondoggy
[17:35] <xangua> !info notify-osd | moondoggy
[17:35] <raincomputers> Just by opening alsamixer my audio started working...
[17:35] <raincomputers> Lol.
[17:35] <raincomputers> Why didn't I think of that duhhhh
[17:36] <hamed> didn't think see you here moondoggy
[17:37] <moondoggy> Hi, hamed .
[17:37] <moondoggy> I see a few of us on computer channels.
[17:37] <moondoggy> Thanks, ubottu .
[17:38] <hamed> my ubuntu crashed
[17:38] <hamed> just the command line is accesible
[17:38] <ProfessorBacon> the pope died
[17:38] <ProfessorBacon> POPE IS DEAD
[17:38] <moondoggy> Sweet.  Found notify-send.  Thanks ubottu and hamed .
[17:40] <tyler_d> I'm running ubuntu 12.04 64 bit and my sound card is missing, as a result I have no sound icon in the unity panel, however the sound does work and is controlable from alsamixer, any help restoring this would be appreciated?
[17:43] <yak_king> is there a more efficient way in terminal to see if a program is installed than apt-get install PROGRAMNAME
[17:43] <yak_king> and checking that way?
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> tyler_d  sounds like sound card is integrated in your motherboard
[17:43] <llutz> yak_king: apt-cache policy packagename
[17:44] <kostkon> tyler_d, try:  rm -rf ~/.pulse   then logout and login again
[17:44] <tyler_d> MonkeyDust: it is indeed, laptop computer
[17:44] <yak_king> thanks ilutz will try
[17:45] <tyler_d> kostkon: did a cp -avi first, but removed, will log out and in in a few here
[17:45] <tyler_d> kostkon: ty for the quick response
[17:46] <yak_king> cool ilutz... thanks!
[17:47] <chiggins> If I install ruby1.9 for the entire system, and a user uses RVM, would there be a conflict that breaks things, or would the user just default to using RVM
[17:47] <savio> chiggins, RVM is used to avoid conflict don't worry
[17:48] <chiggins> savio: Sweet deal, thanks. And I was about to ask that in #metasploit, I thought I recognized your name haha.
[17:48] <savio> chiggins, :)
[17:49] <chiggins> cheers. see ya on the other side :)
[17:51] <savio> chiggins, sure. but on which side?
[17:52] <savio> chiggins, left or right :)
[17:55]  * TXRoadkill is away: Off to find a shrubbery...
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> !away| TXRoadkill
[18:00] <freakynl> hi, does ubuntu have alternate packages for things like python etc? As in no-X versions? Need to configure LIO on an ubuntu server that's installed on a 2G stick. The entire OS doesn't even consume 900M now.
[18:00] <JuJuBee> I am new to unity.  How do I add a custom launcher to the bar on left if the app does not create a .desktop file?
[18:00] <freakynl> targetcli wants to pull in half X, ruby, python, bunch of other crap. 1.2G for a cli config toolie... I don't have that much space free :/
[18:01] <Pici> freakynl: try running apt-get with the "--no-install-recommends" argument
[18:03] <freakynl> Pici: holy crap - from 1.2G to 8M that's just sick.
[18:03] <freakynl> Pici: Thanks :)
[18:03] <Pici> freakynl: np :)
[18:12] <drwrr> hi! i'm having trouble getting a (supposedly compatible) usb audio device to work, snd-usb-audio says "failed with error -5" in dmesg. could someone help me troubleshoot this please?
[18:12] <GreenGuy> Anyone have any suggestions for an Ubuntu alternative?
[18:12] <Pici> GreenGuy: Try ##linux
[18:15] <PowerTux> anyone knows why is too slow to open firefox/thunderbird print dialog ? its about 30 seconds
[18:15] <rhin0> where would the log of a kernel panic be?  -- never had one before
[18:15] <rhin0> does it file its crisis to disk anywhere?
[18:16] <nightlyowl> Hello, I want to install LXDE, but I don't want all those other lubuntu-desktop packages...
[18:17] <llutz> !info lxde | nightlyowl   check this
[18:18] <nightlyowl> Thank you
[18:18] <Soelen> hello, quick question, is it possible to create a local network nameserver?
[18:18] <freakynl> rhin0: usually not iirc, if there's a panic - how would you be sure the filesystem / disk drivers aren't f*ed up and will screw your data? If you google it there's quite some info on it tho' :)
[18:19] <Soelen> like when I'm browsing with firefox http://somethingsomething, it leads to my ubuntu server in the next room
[18:19] <rhin0> should have taken a photo of the screen or something?  I am backing away from xubuntu 12.10... not using it any more
[18:19] <freakynl> Soelen: you have a search domain with a wildcard - it's your dns :)
[18:20] <rhin0> I understand kernel panic won't do much after panic ie, tidy up, file debug message to disk
[18:20] <rhin0> is a brain seizure
[18:20] <Soelen> freakynl: sorry but I dont understand heh
[18:20] <freakynl> Soelen: pastebin /etc/resolv.conf please
[18:21] <Soelen> freakynl: http://pastebin.com/HVGAsV0A
[18:21] <jordanrain> So I followed a tutorial to change my login screen wallpaper, and now I just get a blank screen and can't do anything :/ Anyway of repairing this besides reinstalling?
[18:22] <freakynl> Soelen: ok, so when you go to say http://whatever whatever can not be resolved (in this case by definition as whatever is not a fqdn, whatever.com would but but if that does not resolve the same applies)
[18:23] <freakynl> so your dns client adds the search domain, fritz.box in this case, making the request whatever.fritz.box
[18:23] <freakynl> your router (a fritz box apparently :)) has a dns file stating *.fritz.box points to that IP
[18:23] <jordanrain> I followed this tutorial to change my login screen wallpaper, and now I have no display at all: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/10/change-ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-background/
[18:24] <jordanrain> Anyone know about what I can do to fix it :/
[18:24] <Soelen> freakynl: in other words it is only possible by creating a subdomain for fritz.box like whatever.fritz.box
[18:25] <freakynl> so there's a bunch of things you can do, remove the search domain, use another dns server, change the DNS server on the fritzbox if that's possible. Any of them can solve the issue, the middle one alone doesn't please people though as your box will regularly send requests for something.fritz.box to an external DNS server then who doesn't know what to do with it
[18:26] <Ian_Corne> Greetings
[18:26] <freakynl> Soelen: Oh, I misread, thought you had the issue that http://notarealdomain went to that box, but yes, you can set up a dns server that responds with whatever IP on whatever request you send it
[18:26] <Ian_Corne> anyone managed to get HP Scanjet 5530 working?
[18:26] <freakynl> you actually want that issue haha, but yes you can. A lot of ISPs use that kind of thing for the first time setup of their modems for example
[18:28] <Soelen> freakynl: superb, then one last question, with what keywords do I need search in google to find further readings? I didnt find helpful stuff at the first place which is why I tried to ask here at #ubuntu
[18:28] <rdgadwe> how i can set account in thunderbird
[18:29] <drwrr> Soelen, http://freetz.org/wiki/help/fritz_faq
[18:29] <freakynl> Soelen: dns wildcard zone should help
[18:29] <freakynl> Soelen: you will need to run your own dns
[18:31] <freakynl> Soelen: alternatively - if you want all http/https requests to always go to some other url you might set up a proxy server and force that into all browsers as well. I personally don't have a preference, but if you feel more comfortable with one than the other ;). Proxy will need to be setup on client (although you could use auto config or something) DNS server (and search domain) can be pushed with DHCP (if they override the DNS to 8.8.8.8 for examp
[18:34] <Soelen> freakynl: about the site which you gave me, I guess for all 3 possible solutions I need to connect with my fritzbox via telnet to do this
[18:34] <Soelen> and thanks buddy, I didnt thought about proxy yet
[18:34] <freakynl> Soelen: squid is pretty nice and I'm lacking a lot of context (as in what you want to achieve, why, etc.) :)
[18:35] <Dizzle> i am trying to use handbrake and i run the command but i get "rror mp4 muxer disabled" anyone know how i would "enable" it in ubuntu?
[18:35] <Dizzle> error*
[18:37] <jackbrown> If I use a main proxy into my configuration then i connect to a VPN, the VPN what will see? My proxy IP or my Machine IP ?
[18:39] <Kion1> can someone help me with the command to install the latest versin of skype on 10.04
[18:41] <kostkon> Kion1, just go and download it from the skype website
[18:41] <Soelen> Kion1: didnt ran the support for 10.04 out?
[18:42] <kostkon> Soelen, not yet
[18:42] <Kion1> Thanks guys
[18:42] <auronandace> Soelen: 10.04 desktop support ends april
[18:44] <freakynl> Soelen: 10.04 desktop - maybe, but 10.04 server is a LTS release (5 years)
[18:44] <freakynl> !LTS
[18:44] <freakynl> Soelen: desktop in april thus :)
[18:45] <Soelen> oh ok good to know, thanks guys heh, good to know about ubuntu server and those 5 years
[18:48] <xj54y> Hey, I was curious as to how I could get both my 10/100/1000 NIC and WLAN NIC to become managed with network-manager (and respectively, nm-applet). Right now, neither one can be managed as they're not available it appear. However, they're manageable via command line (e.g., iwconfig/wpa_cli/ifconfig)
[18:49] <daftykins> xj54y: if you've got any manual config in /etc/network/interfaces that will stop NM working
[18:51] <xj54y> daftykins, I had thought the same thing, which leads me to my next question. Ever since I've installed ubuntu, upon boot, the boot takes SO LONG as ubuntu is trying to figure the networking thing about, then gives it another 60 seconds... How could I go about removing that from my init script? (Management of all services actually per run level wouldn't hurt to know either)
[18:53] <daftykins> xj54y: afaik ubuntu doesn't use run levels
[18:53] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[18:53] <daftykins> xj54y: are you sure it's not some PXE boot rubbish going on that's holding it up?
[18:53] <orudie> i installed dconf-editor, and trying to get to org/gnome/shell/overrides to find the option called workspaces-only-on-primary , but the path org/gnome/shell/ does not exist. i can only get ti /org/gnome in dconf-editor
[18:53] <Nitin> Hello
[18:53] <daftykins> orudie: install 'ccsm' and have a fiddle
[18:54] <Nitin> any one who can give answer of my query
[18:54] <Nitin> ?
[18:54] <orudie> daftykins, its german and not free ? lol
[18:54] <daftykins> orudie: german 0o
[18:54] <Nitin> How can I join India
[18:54] <Nitin> ?
[18:54] <daftykins> hang on i might have memory failed
[18:54] <xj54y> daftykins, I actually no idea what it is since there's a huge lack of verbosity upon ubuntu's bootup.
[18:55] <daftykins> xj54y: check logs
[18:55] <orudie> daftykins, it says (Deutsch) in ubuntu software center
[18:55] <xj54y> daftykins, specificity would be helpful.
[18:55] <OerHeks> !india
[18:55] <jackbrown> Why if I set a General Proxy into my proxy settings doesn't work ?  (this proxy works 100% into the browser)
[18:56] <daftykins> xj54y: dmesg naturally.
[18:57] <daftykins> orudie: 12.10 ja?
[18:57] <orudie> daftykins, 12.04 , I am not german )
[18:57] <daftykins> orudie: actually nm i don't have a clue what's going on. i'm not german either, please stop saying that it's boring me immensely
[18:58] <xj54y> daftykins, you're telling me to look for apples on an orange tree... What should I look for, why and would finding something related to what I'm looking for (or exactly) provide useful information to help you assist me with my current issue (for the sake of clarity)..?
[18:58] <daftykins> xj54y: nevermind i can't be bothered to hold your hand right now sorry.
[18:58] <xj54y> daftykins, Sorry, I don''t understand what you're saying.
[18:59] <blkadder> Wait there is hand-holding available?
[18:59] <orudie> daftykins, thanks for your help
[19:00] <xj54y> daftykins, should I be looking for a lack of carriers in logs?
[19:01] <zyngawo> Can anyone help with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/245911/wifi-not-working-after-reboot
[19:02] <nuxninja> replug it in and see
[19:02] <xj54y> daftykins, also, looking through dmesg, the mass majority of information regarding hardware specifically doesn't shed ANY light on any of the services being started or anything of the like. May be the wrong place to look for what you've mentioned.
[19:03] <zyngawow> replug it?
[19:03] <zyngawow> A PCI device?
[19:03] <zyngawow> Soldered to the Mobo? No, thank you
[19:03] <daftykins> xj54y: look up that 'bootchart' thing. it'll show you what's taking time
[19:03] <Clovertown> !de
[19:04] <xj54y> daftykins, that 'bootchart' thing? Are you not sure?
[19:05] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[19:05] <tyler_d> orudie: it is only going one over, appears to be two as it's 2 monitors wide
[19:06] <tyler_d> orudie: the answer, is not that I'm aware of
[19:06] <daftykins> xj54y: no i know, but i'm not going to google for you
[19:07] <orudie> tyler_d, heh ) well, it detects the laptop monitor and a Dell external monitor.
[19:07] <xj54y> daftykins, oh, I wasn't inferring any such suggestion. I wasn't sure if you wanted me to google something you weren't sure about.
[19:08] <xj54y> daftykins, sorry about that. It's hard to understand you because you're not very clear in communicating. Thank you for you help! :-)
[19:08] <daftykins> xj54y: that's because i can't be bothered now =/ you seem to want too much
[19:09] <daze> anybody got Skype mono icons for Unity? I've got skype indicator working, but it uses colored icons and it seems there's no way (?) to override that, because those icons come from the app itself and not from a file. Anybody familiar with this?
[19:09] <tripelb> i need help with partitioning. i read the web pages in askubuntu. i have 4 partitions ext, swap types. Also 1G RAM.  Now i jnow i nwed a 2G swap and the rest / mount point
[19:11] <xj54y> daftykins, Err.. I was under the impression that you had intention to help me resolve my issue due to the nature of your response. To what level you can at all provide assistance is completely unpredictable on my end as I haven't the necessity or ability to judge your aptitude, quality of service, or any of measure of competence with respect to the partial solutions you have provided.
[19:11] <tripelb>  is that correct? Web says ti make empty by resizing but 0 us too small says the partitioner. Please guide me. Thanks
[19:11] <daftykins> xj54y: bye then
[19:11] <tripelb> i need help with partitioning. i read the web pages in askubuntu. i have 4 partitions ext, swap types. Also 1G RAM.  Now i jnow i nwed a 2G swap and the rest / mount point
[19:11] <xj54y> daftykins, it's probably logical to not attempt to help anyone if you have no time. It leaves the individual really confused most of the time.
[19:12] <antonio__> halooooo
[19:12] <daftykins> xj54y: it wasn't the time element, it's that you're being particularly awkward. now stop messaging me please
[19:12] <xj54y> daftykins, I was pointed to this method of communication by canonical themselves. Are you not at all associated with canonical?
[19:13] <orudie> hi
[19:14] <xj54y> Actually, does anyone in this channel know if this channel is at all affiliated with Canonical?
[19:14] <antonio__> ciaoooooooo
[19:15] <tripelb>  also can i read files eg lubuntu12.94.iso from a nexus 7 ti a flash drive using a livecd? 9.04 CD - ATM my ISP is phone.
[19:16] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to set up a router.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  In the dhcp section, files are being referred to that don't exist.  /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf for one
[19:19] <tripelb> xj54y: FWIW i think this channel ia a
[19:19] <tripelb> xj54y: FWIW i think this channel is all independent volunteers
[19:20] <tripelb>  Canonical.has no interear hence no liability. in several years on here i have not seen any.mention of affiliation ans at leaat one disclaimer.
[19:21] <tripelb> <--desirea help with partitioner. has goigles
[19:22] <tripelb>  read web pages tried stuff.
[19:23] <orudie> Hi. I am running ubuntu 12.04 with two monitors. When I switch between desktop workspaces (with "ctrl+alt left, right), it shifts two desktop spaces left or right. Is there a way to change it so that it shifts only one workspace, instead of two ?
[19:23] <tripelb> typos apologies. big thumbs. fon is tiny, FroYo
[19:26] <root__> asdasd
[19:26] <daze> can I change indicator applet positions in the unity panel?
[19:26] <andre450> hey everyone
[19:27] <hamed> d
[19:27] <andre450> super happy with switching to ubuntu :)
[19:27] <Tr3v012__> ?
[19:28] <thoonai> hey
[19:28] <hamed> i have a problem with booting , "low garphics mode" warning comes and after that ubuntu doesn't start
[19:29] <trism> daze: not without recompiling
[19:29] <thoonai> im searching a good curses based partitioning programm
[19:29] <MraAlbertina> hello. what's the best way to achieve a private grid computing system in order to run a ubuntu server environment?
[19:29] <Tr3v012__> lol
[19:30] <daze> trism: if you're refering to the indicator applet order, there seems to be ordering-override.key file that might just do the trick. I'm trying it out :)
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> MraAlbertina  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:30] <Tr3v012__> anyone else running Bt5?
[19:30] <MraAlbertina> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu Desktop, if that matters
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> Tr3v012__  type /joun #backtrack-linux, as it is not supported here
[19:31] <thoonai> MraAlbertina: what do you want to do?
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> Tr3v012__  type /join #backtrack-linux, as it is not supported here
[19:31] <MraAlbertina> thoonai: what i wrote :p
[19:31] <trism> daze: let me know if it works, though I wouldn't get your hopes up, I just looked at the code again and it still seems to be hardcoded (there were plans to add a gsettings key but never seemed to happen)
[19:31] <xentity1x> Hi, my package system is broken. When I try to run sudo apt-get install -f I get this error http://pastebin.com/tJk7FE2f. Anyone have advice?
[19:31] <Lededje> Hello
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> MraAlbertina  you said "server environment", hence my suggestion
[19:32] <thoonai> im searching a good curses based partitioning programm
[19:32] <Tr3v012__> why am i banned D:
[19:32] <MraAlbertina> MonkeyDust: doesn't matter :) with ubuntu, in general
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> Tr3v012__  maybe you just need to register your nick
[19:32] <Tr3v012__> :/
[19:32] <Pici> Tr3v012__: don't IRC as root
[19:32] <beowulf2> what language is ubuntu mostly written in?
[19:32] <Tr3v012__> yea about that...
[19:33] <MraAlbertina> beowulf2: check debian, kernels, packages
[19:33] <Tr3v012__> i just downloaded r3 and i was taking a look at it
[19:33] <thoonai> beowulf2: should be Assembler and C/C++ then a lot of bash scripts and perl
[19:34] <hamed> i have a problem with booting , "low garphics mode" warning comes and after that ubuntu doesn't start
[19:34] <Lededje> I have an issue with an apache2 server; whenever I use php I'm not able to access it from an external network. A cookie for anyone who can solve my problem :3
[19:34] <orudie> how can I modify a shortcut for start options for a certain application ?
[19:34] <Tr3v012__> and now am downloading mint
[19:34] <jrib> !lamp | Lededje
[19:34] <jrib> Lededje: follow the troubleshooting steps for that issue on the wiki page the bot linked
[19:35] <Lededje> Thanks jrib, I'll give it a go :)
[19:35] <orudie> I have a shortcut pinned and locked in my launcher. How can I change launch options ?
[19:35] <thoonai> im searching a good curses based partitioning programm
[19:35] <lifebird64> does anybody online have any experience with netatalk?
[19:36] <Tr3v012__> well gtg
[19:36] <lifebird64> I'm having issues with printers not showing up via bonjour/avahi
[19:40] <daze> trism: http://i.imgur.com/LdrUjYV.jpg it kinda works. Previously the weather indicator was between Exaile and Skype indicators and now I moved it after the messaging indicator. I need to get the applet names and maybe I'll be able to move it after the clock :)
[19:40] <trism> daze: interesting, which key is this?
[19:41] <daze> trism: well, you see the ~/.local/share/indicators/application/ordering-override.keyfile open. That's all I did.
[19:43] <trism> daze: ahh interesting, I don't have that file, but it seems you can move appindicators anyway then...won't work for the clock though
[19:43] <daze> yeah, I created that file manually
[19:43] <daze> and the corresponding folder
[19:44] <daze> I'm reading http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/how-to-change-application-indicators.html
[19:44] <trism> daze: nifty, thanks for the link
[19:46] <daze> it seems the clock is stuck on the right no matter what, along with the sound and other system indicators
[19:46] <daze> but other than that, all 'additional' indicators can be ordered that way :]
[19:47] <trism> daze: yeah, that file is loaded by indicator-application, which handles all the appindicators, but full indicators will still be locked in place since they are hardcoded in the panel-service.c file
[19:47] <trism> daze: still, better than nothing. hopefully someone will add the gsettings key so all the indicators will be reorderable eventually
[19:48] <daze> yeah, unity could use some customization settings :)
[19:51] <daze> now if I could just force mono icons for skype..
[19:52] <wachpwnski> Where can I get a memstick image I can dd?
[19:52] <PrimeCl0ver> Has anyone else had the issue with icons and text being garbled after installing gnome-shell and using GDM instead of lightgdm?
[19:52] <wachpwnski> For some reason unetbootin doesn't boot for me
[19:56] <Lededje> jrib: Some people are able to connect to it no problem
[19:56] <jrib> Lededje: what happens when you try?
[19:56] <Lededje> jrib: Sorry, this is regarding the php issue.
[19:56] <jrib> Lededje: I remember :)
[19:57] <Lededje> jrib: It will either load fine, or timeout
[19:57] <jrib> Lededje: so it randomly times out?  And only for you?
[19:57] <Mary_> can some please help me.  I have installed Nagios on ubuntu 12 server via apt-get.  I got it running and it is working.  BUT i just found out i am using a older version of Nagios and it will update to the most recent version.  Any ideas?
[19:57] <Lededje> jrib: The access log says each request is http 200
[19:57] <Mary_> any suggestion would be great
[19:58] <Lededje> jrib: No, I'm able to connect every time. So is a remove server i'm trying. But at work and at friends houses it times out
[19:58] <Lededje> jrib: And only when php is on the page. It is really strange :?
[19:58] <jrib> Lededje: sounds strange, yes
[19:58] <xentity1x> Hi, my package system is broken. When I try to run sudo apt-get install -f I get this error http://pastebin.com/tJk7FE2f. Anyone have advice?
[19:59] <Lededje> jrib: I formatted my server with a fresh 12.04 lts and it didn't fix it :(
[19:59] <jrib> Lededje: does it happen with every php page?  Did you try making some simple hello world?
[20:00] <Lededje> jrib: I'm using <?php phpinfo(); ?> at the moment
[20:00] <Lededje> jrib: I'll try an echo
[20:00] <jrib> Lededje: that should be simple enough
[20:01] <Lededje> jrib: Strange.... echo "ping"; prints ping but php info doesnt work... some of the time?
[20:01] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_ remove it
[20:01] <Lededje> jrib: That has fixed it but it is still peculiar that the other info function didn't work
[20:02] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_ I would also look at the ppa's for Icinga instead of Nagios
[20:02] <jrib> Lededje: very
[20:02] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, https://wiki.icinga.org/display/howtos/Setting+up+Icinga+with+IDOUtils+on+Ubuntu
[20:02] <Lededje> jirb: Anyway, thank you for your time. Would you like me to send you a cookie?
[20:02] <PrimeCl0ver> Very very simple to follow and nearly impossible to mess up if you follow the instructions
[20:03] <Lededje> jirb: or I can stick a fiver in a charity box of your choosing
[20:03] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver: thank you.  so you are saying icinga is better than nagios?
[20:03] <jrib> Lededje: it's ok, thanks :)
[20:03] <letozaf_> hi
[20:03] <Lededje> jrib: Very humble, many thanks
[20:04] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, I say neither is better then the other. Icinga is a fork of Nagios. I personally prefer Icinga's new interface and their PHP api. Nagios and Icinga can share plugins and the core engine of Icinga stays in line with Nagios's feature set.
[20:04] <Vorenii> hi guys
[20:04] <Vorenii> anyone willing to helpme with my sound issue?
[20:05] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, I hope that helps.
[20:05] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver:  i find nagios difficult due to lack of docs.  is Icinga have better docs ?
[20:05] <Mary_> but yes interface looks better?
[20:05] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, The documentation on Icinga is very good and they also have a really good IRC channel on FreeNode
[20:06] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver: yes nagios irc is dead!
[20:06] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver: have you used both ?
[20:06] <ironhalik> Do I need additional driver for my touchpad on thinkpad x220?
[20:06] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, I started 8 years ago on Nagios and about 3 years ago on Icinga.
[20:06] <ironhalik> I currently have just left click, and the touchpad will not support multitouch
[20:07] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, I personally suggest this combination. Icinga/PNP/Check_MK
[20:07] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver: i wish i had asked before doing all this works! but glad you gave me get me hints
[20:07] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver: i assume you do this all on ubuntu server? and it there good tutorial for Ubuntu?
[20:08] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, The configs you made for Nagios can be used in Icinga.
[20:08] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, Yes my Icinga servers are spread across 10 Ubuntu 12.04 servers.
[20:08] <F14> good evening
[20:08] <Mary_> PrimeCl0ver: thank you!
[20:08] <PrimeCl0ver> Mary_, No Problem.
[20:09] <F14> can someone help me with the instalation of gambas 3 in xubuntu
[20:09] <F14> please
[20:09] <ncsquid22> press F14 on your keyboard
[20:11] <orudie> how can I modify a shortcut for start options for a certain application ?
[20:11] <Vorenii> If i download skype from skype.com it says wrong architecture i386, but which one do i need?
[20:12] <xangua> Vorenii: i just install skype from software center
[20:13] <wachpwnski> whats the difference between 12.10 and 12.04? Are there still all the packages 12.04 lts has?
[20:13] <ncsquid22> hi F14....here is how to do it.
[20:13] <ncsquid22> F14:  http://kalaharix.wordpress.com/gambas-3/gambas-3-compile-and-install/
[20:13] <k1l> !lts | wachpwnski
[20:13] <k1l> wachpwnski: that is the 12.04. its focused on stability
[20:14] <wachpwnski> So 12.10 just has features I might not need?
[20:14] <Vorenii> xangua, i dont see it in the software center
[20:14] <ttl-> is it possible to recover passwords for wireless networks from a home folder of a previous installation of 12.04?
[20:14] <k1l> wachpwnski: it got some new program versions that were released after 12,04
[20:15] <ncsquid22> ttl: I doubt it.
[20:16] <ncsquid22> ttl: you can try airmon-ng, airodump-ng, aircrack-ng etc...
[20:16] <ttl-> i know the login password for the user...
[20:16] <ttl-> are those passwords stored in some kind of keyring?
[20:16] <ncsquid22> ttl: the router?
[20:16] <jrib> ttl-: should be saved in gnome keyring afaik
[20:16] <ttl-> jrib: yes
[20:17] <ttl-> jrib: i only have a backup of the my home directory
[20:17] <ttl-> -the
[20:17] <Hackbat> I've been fighting 12.04 trying to get my AlFA dongle working.
[20:18] <jrib> ttl-: did you try using seahorse (maybe there is some other gui way to access the keyring but I don't know it)?
[20:18] <ttl-> jrib: where are the keyring files stored in 12.04
[20:18] <Hackbat> I have a card that works with it but it's only G and it's like 10% of the speed of the alfa
[20:18] <ttl-> jrib: command line is fine too :)
[20:19] <jrib> ttl-: I don't know the default location of the file
[20:19] <jrib> ttl-: if you've copied them to your new home, seahorse should just find them
[20:20] <jrib> ttl-: check ~/.gnome2/keyrings
[20:22] <Vorenii> anyone know howto fix sound through my speakers on a imac?
[20:23] <kesi> Is this an okay channel to ask for help with apache on Ubuntu? I suspect I'm just missing something simple
[20:23] <Pici> kesi: here or #httpd.  Give it a shot here and we'll see if we can help.
[20:23] <jrib> kesi: yes, there's also #httpd if you're asking an apache-specific question
[20:24] <kesi> Well, I did the LAMP install and had the same problem so I guttted it and started over with just apache2. When I have the default site, it works. When I try to set it to my own site, I get 403 errors. Followed these directions:
[20:24] <kesi> Well, can't paste but from the help.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <kesi> I used a2ensite and a2dissite to enable mine and edited the file. I think the permissions are right
[20:26] <Pici> kesi: did you restart apache afterwards?
[20:26] <kesi> Pici, many times
[20:26] <kesi> Pici, no errors
[20:27] <fkm> kesi: That one is (IMO) for #httpd
[20:27] <Towanda> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh0woT7NkKI
[20:27] <Pici> kesi: Can you pastebin your site file? (be sure to santitize any sensitive info)
[20:27] <raincomputers> I keep getting aptdaemon crashes. Any fix for this?
[20:27] <Pici> Towanda: do not post random links here
[20:27] <Towanda> ok
[20:27] <kesi> Pici, sure. You mean the one that I used to change the home directory?
[20:28] <Pici> kesi: Whatever you enabled with a2ensite
[20:29] <kesi> Pici, http://pastebin.com/mf1CgLV1
[20:30] <Pici> kesi: can www-data read files in /home/blah/public_html/
[20:34] <kesi> Pici, what perms do I need? I think it's 755 right now and owned by blah
[20:34] <Vorenii> anyone know howto fix sound through my speakers on a imac?
[20:35] <pbuckley> is anyone getting audio popping from pianobar in ubuntu 13.04?
[20:36] <kesi> The help page didn't mention any permission changes but I remember having some sort of problem before
[20:36] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: you have Ubuntu on the imac?
[20:37] <Vorenii> yes, but i have sound through my speakers
[20:38] <angelo__> hello, i've just read a tread dated 2008 about a bug in nautilus that you cannot be warned if you press canc on a file, it moves into trash without the option to asking if you are sure to move the file into trash. Could please somebody tell me how can i get such a basic function on my 12.10 distro?
[20:38] <ncsquid22> so, what is the problem Vorenii?
[20:38] <enapupe> Is there a ppa for the latest intel graphics?
[20:39] <ncsquid22> enapupe: check upubuntu.com
[20:39] <Vorenii> Ncsquid the problem is that i have no sound :D
[20:39] <enapupe> ncsquid22: checking..
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> enapupe  start here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[20:40] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: If you have an aluminum iMac and you do not have sound : open /etc/modprobe.d/options : sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/options and add "options snd-hda-intel model=imac24" to the file and save ( ctrl+o and ctrl+x to exit ) then reboot.
[20:40] <bianca> can anyone help me, i keep getting this internal system error?it says evolution-calendar-factory crashed with SIGSEGV
[20:40] <enapupe> Another thing, my computer is not powering off anymore after kernel upgrade... it goes to: [somenumbers] Power off.  and halts so I have to unplug from the power source
[20:40] <Vorenii> thank you ncsquid22 ill try that right away
[20:40] <ncsquid22> I will be here Vorenii. Let me know
[20:42] <ironhalik> is there any additional software for synaptics touchpads?
[20:42] <enapupe> You people suggest to update ubuntu kernel to 3.7?
[20:42] <Vorenii> brb ncsquid22
[20:43] <g105b> How do I find out how much ram and vram is in my laptop?
[20:43] <g105b> (running 12.10)
[20:43] <enapupe> g105b: free -m ?
[20:43] <pbuckley> free
[20:43] <vifanq> How to configure wifi ?
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> enapupe  the current kernel is 3.5 (12.10), anything beyond that needs a ppa and is not officially supported
[20:44] <pbuckley> dmidecode
[20:44] <g105b> what does that tell me, enapupe? http://pastie.org/5826830
[20:44] <pbuckley> you have about 4gb of ram
[20:44] <enapupe> yeah
[20:44] <angelo__> Guys, it's really amazing to me that an operating system as powerful and flexible as Ubuntu won't even give me the option to request a dialogue box before deleting items with one keystroke
[20:45] <enapupe> 1.3gb used, 2.3gb free - 3.5gb of cached stuff
[20:45] <edgabaldi> can i get non-free packages in ubuntu?
[20:45] <g105b> pbuckley, enapupe, how much vram?
[20:45] <angelo__> I can't figure this out, as many other ppl did.. no fix already since 2008, huh?
[20:45] <enapupe> 1.3gb used, 2.3gb free - 3.5gb (used with* cached stuff)
[20:45] <jhutchins> angelo__: Which desktop are you running?
[20:45] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, no luck.
[20:45] <enapupe> angelo__: Swap
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> edgabaldi  sure, the software center contain commercial programs
[20:45] <enapupe> angelo__: 8gb swap, nothing in use
[20:45] <g105b> enapupe, what's confusing me is how to differentiate between vram and ram?
[20:46] <ncsquid22> is your imace 24 or 27?
[20:46] <ncsquid22> Vorenii?
[20:46] <Vorenii> 24
[20:46] <craigbass1976> What's the ubuntu equivalent of the old Fedora service network restart ?  I'm trying to get a new address from the dhcp server.
[20:46] <Vorenii> in windows I know the sounddriver is something with CircusLogic blabla
[20:46] <enapupe> angelo__: vram = video ram
[20:46] <pbuckley> g105b: use dmidecode or lspci to get your video hardware and look it up
[20:46] <bekks> craigbass1976: dhclient ethX
[20:46] <angelo__> enapupe: wrong person
[20:46] <enapupe> ups, sorry
[20:47] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: you might wanna check this out:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac
[20:47] <angelo__> jhutchins: nautilus, gnome  12.10
[20:47] <enapupe> g105b:  vram = video ram
[20:47] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: go to Sound
[20:47] <craigbass1976> bekks, is ther eone to just bring everything down and back up again?
[20:47] <g105b> enapupe, I know, what do you mean?
[20:47] <bianca> hey guys i have an at graphics card, a 7950, and i need to get this package somehow = lib32-catalyst-utils
[20:47] <bianca> but i cant find it
[20:47] <enapupe> g105b: what kind of video card do you have?
[20:47] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, I am there mate.
[20:48] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, tried all 3 options , tested them with volume loud open.. and nothing
[20:48] <jhutchins> angelo__: Edit/Preferences/Behavior
[20:48] <angelo__> jhutchins: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/95853
[20:49] <enapupe> bianca: check this out http://pkgs.org/download/lib32-catalyst-utils
[20:49] <angelo__> jhutchins: you cannot fix this like that
[20:49] <jhutchins> angelo__: Yep, select a delete command that requires confirmation.
[20:49] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: Ubuntu version?
[20:49] <bianca> enapupe will this work if i have the drivers from the ati website installed
[20:49] <Vorenii> 12.10
[20:50] <jhutchins> angelo__: Since the trash must be emptied manually, this is not the default.
[20:50] <enapupe> bianca: I have no idea, but zip file should fix the hole for the  lib
[20:50] <angelo__> jhutchins; ok, i will have confirmation do delete the file forever, not a confirmation to move it to the trash
[20:51] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, i see my right audio dive @ alsamixer
[20:51] <angelo__> jhutchins: how good is a trash can if i'm not even sure what's in there cause i might have che canc key pressed by mistake since it's so close to the up arrow?
[20:52] <ncsquid22> Vorenii: This looks promising.... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443020
[20:52] <jhutchins> angelo__: You can find the patches that address this on nable.
[20:52] <bianca> enapupe can you tell me how to install .tar.xz files?
[20:52] <Hackbat> I'm having some trouble getting my alfa card running on 12.04
[20:52] <angelo__> jhutchins: do you happen to know where i can find them?
[20:52] <jhutchins> angelo__: my up arrow key has nothing on three sides of it.
[20:52] <jhutchins> angelo__: Google.
[20:53] <jhutchins> angelo__: I forget what I used, something like nautilus confirm delete.
[20:53] <angelo__> jhutchins: k thanks, i will look for that
[20:53] <enapupe> angelo__: I saw what you are looking for sometime ago, didn't activated it, but, I guess it was a native otion
[20:53] <enapupe> option*
[20:54] <angelo__> enapupe: it is not, since '08: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus/+bug/95853
[20:55] <jemadux> i have ubuntu lts and ubuntu 13.04 alpha on my machine .. i want the grub to boot directly lts version and not 13.04 .. how to solve thay?
[20:55] <bianca> how do i move something as super user in terminal?
[20:55] <bianca> i need to move a whole folder and merge it with another
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> jemadux  #ubuntu+1
[20:55] <constrictor> I am getting unable to find suitable address error when trying to mount a NAS share any help
[20:55] <constrictor> ?
[20:55] <enapupe> angelo__: oh, that sucks
[20:56] <angelo__> enapupe: yes it does cause it's like six lines of code
[20:56] <bianca> anyone..?
[20:57] <phiq> bianca use "mv"
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> bianca  sudo mv
[20:57] <bianca> thank you
[20:57] <Vorenii> brb another reboot
[20:58] <jemadux> MonkeyDust: it's ubuntu alltime question
[20:58] <pc05> oi
[20:58] <adriann> Hi. I have a question about installing ubuntu on a Hackintosh. Is there anyone that can help me with that?
[20:59] <pc05> UFF
[20:59] <enapupe> adriann: what do you mean? like a virtual machine? or dual boot?
[20:59] <adriann> as a dualboot.
[20:59] <enapupe> IDK, I must say I lost big time to make OSx run on a VM inside ubuntu, didn't worth it.
[21:00] <adriann> i already have both osx and windows installed on it. each on its own harddrive.
[21:00] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, that didnt work aswell
[21:00] <hilo> is there a way to set a motd message for CLI logins
[21:00] <adriann> I also have a harddrive ready for ubuntu.
[21:00] <Vorenii> great this linux stuff :')
[21:00] <ncsquid22> damm!
[21:00] <enapupe> adriann: who is controlling the boot?
[21:01] <jrib> hilo: sure, read: « man update-motd »
[21:01] <ncsquid22> I am sorry Vorenii. I might have to do some extra research....
[21:01] <hilo> jrib, ty
[21:01] <Vorenii> i threw my windows off :(
[21:01] <enapupe> adriann: I don't think you will have problems with that.
[21:01] <adriann> enapue: chameleon
[21:01] <poq> What is nouveau in xsensors? How to identify what device is it?
[21:01] <Vorenii> now im with a OS that has no sound :P
[21:01] <ncsquid22> I am sure is a module that might need to be loaded....
[21:02] <auronandace> poq: nouveau is the open source nvidia graphics driver
[21:02] <adriann> enapupe: will grub detect osx?
[21:02] <ncsquid22> mattkruse: Do you work for Panasonic?
[21:02] <Vorenii> ncsquid22, what was the link again
[21:02] <enapupe> adriann: will chameleon detect ubuntu?
[21:02] <mattkruse> No haha
[21:02] <ncsquid22> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443020
[21:02] <Vorenii> i hopen my /etc/modprobe.d/imac.conf and its empty :S
[21:02] <ncsquid22> lol..sorry
[21:03] <mattkruse> Banno.com ftw.
[21:03] <adriann> enapupe: i dont know.
[21:03] <enapupe> adriann: I think it will. Anyhow, grub is your best friend to make it work
[21:03] <ncsquid22> i think the instructions say the file needs to end with .conf
[21:03] <poq> auronandace: thanks
[21:03] <ncsquid22> so imac.conf might do it
[21:03] <enapupe> adriann: if not, you'll find a lot of docs online
[21:03] <adriann> enapupe: Ok, Thanks:)
[21:03] <Vorenii> ya but its empty ncsquid22
[21:04] <ncsquid22> awesome Vorenii: just add that line to it and reboot
[21:04] <Vorenii> whats the terminal commands again
[21:04] <Vorenii> sorry learning here mate
[21:04] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:04] <ncsquid22> sorry but I have to go now.....I will be back later
[21:08] <helios> hi! sorry to bother you, but I have a question regarding ssd
[21:08] <fidel>  !ask | helios
[21:10] <helios> I bought a ssd and installed ubuntu, for whatever reason I want to reinstall ubuntu and was wondering how do I format the drive? Do I just tell gparted to format the ssd? or should I use the suggested solution here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD_Memory_Cell_Clearing and then install ubuntu? Thanks for reading
[21:10] <xentity1x> Hi, my package system is broken. When I try to run sudo apt-get install -f I get this error http://pastebin.com/tJk7FE2f. Anyone have advice?
[21:13] <SERRA> Some on is fre for chat
[21:13] <jrib> xentity1x: bug 1068165 see workaround there
[21:14] <linux111> does anyone in here use DrJava
[21:14] <Hackfox> Can anyone give me a hand with getting my ALFA card working?
[21:15] <Hackfox> I'm getting tired of using my crappy 802.11G wifi card
[21:15] <linux111> you want it on monitor mode
[21:15] <linux111> pocket injection
[21:16] <Hackfox> what?
[21:17] <Hackfox> I'm not running backtrack here man
[21:17] <un2him> stock ubuntu still rocks...tried many variants, xfce, gnome, etc, but keep coming back to Unity
[21:17] <linux111> what model
[21:17] <linux111> is your alfa usb
[21:17] <Hackfox> Unity is "Okay"
[21:17] <Hackfox> AWUS036NHR USB
[21:18] <un2him> Gnome 3 is my second favorite
[21:18] <Hackfox> It "works" but it's very sketchy
[21:18] <Hackfox> will crash at the drop of a hat
[21:18] <linux111> ok
[21:18] <linux111> what version of ubuntu
[21:18] <MonkeyDust> un2him  you mean gnome-shell
[21:19] <linux111> u running on
[21:19] <Hackfox> 12.04
[21:19] <un2him> MonkeyDust, yep
[21:19] <xentity1x> jrib, I did sudo rm /usr/share/doc/libdrm2/changelog.Debian.gz. That didn't seem to work.
[21:19] <jrib> xentity1x: pastebin what happens now.
[21:19] <xentity1x> jrib, samething
[21:19] <jrib> xentity1x: so pastebin it
[21:20] <Hackfox> I tried installing the driver from Realtek but it just threw errors...
[21:20] <xentity1x> jrib, http://pastebin.com/xWJgBDCE
[21:20] <Hackfox> errors that didn't really tell me anything
[21:21] <jrib> xentity1x: look at the error and look at the file you deleted
[21:21] <kish> how do i instalk thghe old n accelerated ubuntu desktop and ditch unity?=?
[21:22] <linux111> first download this http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[21:22] <linux111> Download the "Linux driver for Kernel 3.0.0/3.1.0/3.2.0" from the Realtek website
[21:22] <linux111> http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[21:23] <linux111> than It will open in Archive Manager; extract the rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012 folder to your Downloads folder.
[21:23] <auronandace> !gnome2 | kish
[21:23] <kish> !notunity
[21:23] <linux111> Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, and type/paste the following, one line a time:
[21:23] <linux111> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:23] <linux111> cd Downloads/rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012
[21:23] <linux111> make
[21:23] <linux111> sudo make install
[21:24] <FloodBot1> linux111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <xentity1x> jrib, it says there are errors in multiple changelog files. Should i delete all of them?
[21:24] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> kish: xfce4 is a great 2 panel deskop if you like the gnome2 smell
[21:24] <linux111> Then reboot, and your AWUS036H should be detected.
[21:25] <Hackfox> linux111, the AWUS036NHR has a realtek 8192cu
[21:25] <kish> COMPIZ IS FUCKING RAPING MY SYSTEM
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> kish  language
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> and cpas
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> caps
[21:25] <Hackfox> I've got the proper drivers
[21:25] <xecuter> hi, i am germany
[21:25] <kish>  I CANT even disable it
[21:25] <linux111> Download the "Linux driver for Kernel 3.0.0/3.1.0/3.2.0" from the Realtek website here.http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> kish  install other DE, logout, select other DE, login
[21:26] <enapupe> jordan: google ubuntu lightdm wallpaper
[21:26] <linux111> 2. It will open in Archive Manager; extract the rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012 folder to your Downloads folder.
[21:26] <Hackfox> Dude I have the correct driver for my chipset
[21:26] <enapupe> jordan: IDK what exactly might be, but this google serach might help you
[21:26] <linux111> Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, and type/paste the following, one line a time: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:26] <xentity1x> jrib, ok i deleted all of them. Seems to be working. Thanks!
[21:26] <linux111> cd Downloads/rtl8187L_linux_1041.0209.2012
[21:26] <linux111> make
[21:26] <linux111> sudo make install
[21:26] <france> ciao
[21:26] <FloodBot1> linux111: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <Hackfox> Lets ignore that part of the site you're reading from
[21:26] <france> !list
[21:27] <kish> !WARESZ
[21:27] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:27] <jrib> xentity1x: no problem.  It's not something you did by the way.  It's a bug with the way those multiarch packages work
[21:27] <jordan> enapupe: I think you're pinging the wrong person :)
[21:27] <Hackfox> How about I just go and pastebin the result of the intall.sh script
[21:27] <jrib> xentity1x: so until they fix it, it may bite you again during an upgrade
[21:27] <GA89> Hi there
[21:27] <enapupe> jordan: lightdm is the guy that provides login screen
[21:28] <GA89> could someone please help me with a little problem?
[21:28] <enapupe> yes, i'm pinging the wrong person ,sorrry
[21:28] <xentity1x> jrib, Ok well I guess I know how to fix it now.
[21:28] <helios> anyone has an advice on reformatting a ssd? or do i just reinstall ubuntu and not worry about it?
[21:29] <linux111> ok try this gksu gedit /etc/rc.local
[21:29] <kish> what do you mean by reformat
[21:29] <bekks> helios: Normally, you just reinstall, and dont reformat.
[21:29] <linux111> Add on line: Code: iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M
[21:30] <helios> I want to reinstall and then put all my data on the ssd
[21:30] <linux111> before the exit 0, save, close gedit and reboot
[21:30] <jordanrain> Hi, my login screen background is just that weird purple color. Is there a way to get my regular desktop wallpaper to show up there again?
[21:30] <bekks> helios: Which doesnt affect what I just said.
[21:30] <linux111> Code: gedit /etc/rc.local
[21:30] <linux111> Add one line: Code: iwconfig wlan0 rate 5.5M
[21:31] <linux111> before the exit 0, save, close gedit and reboot.
[21:31] <enapupe> jordanrain: IDK what exactly might be, but this google serach might help you: "lightdm background"
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> jordanrain: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue    please
[21:31] <helios> well I was thinking in wiping the disk and do a fresh install rahter than a reinstall
[21:31] <helios> sorry for the cnfusion
[21:31] <helios> confusion*
[21:31] <jordanrain> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[21:32] <GA89> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 in old acer travelmate 4500 but i get unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your pc. Whats wrong and what can i doo?
[21:33] <ephesius> helios: those seem like the same thing? are you talking about moving and existing system from one hd to a ssd?
[21:34] <GA89> No suggestions?
[21:35] <ephesius> GA89: did you download the 32 or 64 bit image?
[21:35] <Mamo-chan> vlc cant play dvds here on ubuntu, it knows the dvd is there, just cant play it. Anyone?
[21:35] <GA89> ephesius: 32
[21:35] <linux111> FOUND SOLUTION!!! TO FIX JUST ABOUT ANY WIFI PROBLEM (FIXED ALL OF MINE). Go to turminal and type in: lshw -C network
[21:35] <craigbass1976> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  I still can't route after going through this.  I can give out addresses from my internal nic, but and clients can't ping out of the lan
[21:35] <GA89> ephesius: it was a while back but im sure it was 32
[21:36] <GA89> ephesius: should i try 64?
[21:36] <Mamo-chan> no one? ;/
[21:37] <yeats> !dvd | Mamo-chan
[21:37] <helios> I already have ubuntu on the ssd, due to some problems I decided to do a fresh install: e.g. pick the option to format the drive and lose all the data on it from the ubuntu installer. Not the option to reinstall maintaing all of your data I was wondering If I should do the secure erase before doing this should I leave the installer format the disk and be done with it
[21:37] <Mamo-chan> thanks
[21:37] <ephesius> GA89: no, the 64 won't work I thought maybe you were using the wrong disk image
[21:37] <bekks> helios: In this context, "format" just means "delete the existing partitioning layout and create a new one"
[21:38] <GA89> ephesius: Nea, girlfriend needed ubuntu for studies and i downloaded 32 bit version
[21:39] <helios> yes, I suppose. So should I leave the installer to format the drive or should I secure erase it and then run the buntu installer?
[21:39] <bianca> um can anyone help me with this? mv: cannot move `/home/raven/Desktop/usr' to `/usr': Directory not empty
[21:39] <bianca> raven@raven-pc:~$
[21:40] <Mamo-chan> thanks yeats... it works now
[21:40] <Mamo-chan> :)
[21:40] <GA89> bianca: there was another command for that i think
[21:40] <GA89> i dont remeber what it was thought
[21:40] <bianca> GA89 is there a merge command?
[21:41] <GA89> bianca: not sure
[21:41] <craigbass1976> Is iptables necessary to make a router?
[21:41] <GA89> bianca: long time since i needed that
[21:41] <bianca> :(
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> bianca: do you use a GUI OS?
[21:41] <bianca> yeah
[21:42] <OerHeks> GA89, did the error say something about PAE ?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> bianca: run:   gksudo nautilus $HOME    and you can copy the data as needed
[21:42] <GA89> OerHeks: yup
[21:42] <bianca> it said i need to set permissions for nautilus to work
[21:43] <GA89> kernel requires features not present on CPU: pae
[21:44] <bianca> arghhh
[21:44] <OerHeks> GA89, i would choose workaround #3 >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present  the mini iso and install all manually with internet
[21:44] <bianca> is there a merge command?
[21:45] <GA89> OerHeks: how hard is it?
[21:45] <OerHeks> GA89, easy
[21:46] <einonm> On an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, I've lost my clock display on the menu bar, along with the messaging icon. How can I get them back?
[21:46] <GA89> OerHeks: ok i'll try that, thanks
[21:47] <trism> einonm: are indicator-messaging and indicator-datetime installed?
[21:47] <bianca> can somoene help me merge a folder with another? i keep getting permission denyed just because it has files in it
[21:47] <trism> einonm: and is this unity or gnome-panel?
[21:47] <einonm> Checking now - it's unity
[21:48] <trism> einonm: sorry indicator-messages
[21:48] <trism> einonm: not messaging
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> bianca: anything in:  man cp   to make it merge?
[21:48] <corbolma> hi
[21:48] <bianca> people asking to build f*ing deathstar get help but i cant get help to move some files
[21:48] <corbolma> I've a problem wiht wifi
[21:49] <bianca> ActionParsnip so i put sudo man cp 'folder' 'destination' ?
[21:49] <bekks> bianca: Copy everything from A to B, then remove A. Merge done.
[21:49] <jrib> bianca: what exactly are you trying to do to /usr anyway?
[21:49] <craigbass1976> bianca, rsync might be what you're after
[21:50] <bianca> fuck linux, cant even move files
[21:50] <einonm> trism: messaging was, but datetime wasn't, I guess I need to restart to see a difference?
[21:50] <tripelb> o stiil need help with partitionin
[21:50] <trism> einonm: just log out/back in, or kill unity-panel-service
[21:50] <jrib> bianca: mind your language please.
[21:50] <corbolma> deauthenticating from
[21:50] <bianca> im trying to move stuff for my graphics over because apparently the drivers didnt incude 32 libs? or something idk
[21:50] <einonm> will do, thanks
[21:50] <ProfessorBacon> kish_: are you high
[21:50] <craigbass1976> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router  I still can't route after going through this.  I can give out addresses from my internal nic, but and clients can't ping out of the lan
[21:50] <trism> einonm: oh, indicator-messages also hides itself if no apps are using it, so that's probably why you can't see it
[21:50] <corbolma> none?
[21:51] <jrib> bianca: what are you actually trying to accomplish?  Why do you think you need to move stuff for your graphics?
[21:51] <tripelb> I stiil need help with partitioning.. patieny 2 days. have 4 partitions want 2.    (/ and swap) ram 1g
[21:52] <einonm> trism: that worked for the time, thanks. Still don;t understand why it was removed in the upgrade. Is there a way to show the messaging icon as well?
[21:53] <bianca> because whi get this error that says im missing 32 bit libarys for opwn gl when i run play on linux, and when i googled it i got linked to a package that had the 32 bit libarys apparently
[21:53] <kish> professorbacon, just shot up so ye
[21:53] <kish> does xfce4 support a second monitor
[21:53] <bianca> but i cant put them where they need to go because linux is stupid and doesnt like me accomplishing things
[21:53] <kish> a second desktop?
[21:53] <bianca> raven@raven-pc:~$ sudo rsync '/home/raven/Desktop/usr' '/usr'
[21:53] <bianca> skipping directory usr
[21:53] <bianca> that didnt do anything
[21:53] <jrib> bianca: what error?  What gives you the error?
[21:55] <bianca> play on linux says 'PlayOnLinux is unable to find 32bits OpenGL Libaries. You might encounter problems with your games.
[21:55] <corbolma> anyone can h me?
[21:55] <snyp3r-2000> Hi everyone!
[21:55] <woo> !questions | corbolma
[21:56] <corbolma> ok
[21:56] <bianca> in windows you can just drag and drop anything whereeve you want it to go! :)
[21:56] <bianca> and apparently ubuntu has more freedom -_-
[21:57] <jrib> bianca: I'm 99% certain that you should not be copying things to /usr yourself.
[21:57] <bekks> bianca: Only when having administrative permissions, you can do so on windows.
[21:57] <corbolma> my wirless said deauthenticating from by local choice (reason=3)
[21:57] <tripelb> what is the oldest bersion of ubuntu that will see my nexus 7 on usb? should 9.04 ?
[21:57] <jhutchins> bianca: Are you on wheezy?
[21:57] <bianca> well i need it, how else am i meant to get these files in there
[21:57] <bianca> what the hell is a wheezy
[21:58] <craigbass1976> Is this still valid?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/
[21:58] <bianca> ive spent f*ing hours trying to copy files somewhere... why is this not a thing i can just do?
[21:58] <jrib> bianca: usually one uses the package manager to install things; one does not copy files into /usr
[21:59] <jrib> bianca: you can just do it. But you shouldn't be doing it.
[21:59] <trism> einonm: indicator-messages hides itself if there aren't any apps using it, a bunch weren't ported in time so if you don't use empathy that may be why you don't see it
[21:59] <bianca> well find me the amd 32bit opengl files on the package manager and ill listen to you
[21:59] <einonm> trism: ok, thanks.
[22:00] <jhutchins> bianca: You'
[22:01] <jrib> bianca: I don't know what playonlinux wants.  But you can install the 32bit of a package by appending ":i386" to its name
[22:01] <tripelb> invisible /me wants to make a partition be bigger and does.t get bow to do it from askununtu. would like guidance
[22:01] <[snake]> hello, I am having an issue(I think major) with my package manager: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:01] <jhutchins> bianca: You've spent hours because you are trying to force a Linux box to behave like Windows and run Windows software.  Why not just run your games on Windows?
[22:01] <jrib> [snake]: pastebin the full output
[22:01] <bianca> i have the file si need
[22:01] <bianca> i cant put them in the right folder
[22:02] <[snake]> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1560907/
[22:02] <tripelb> i have been here for hours now. since 11:30 now 2p
[22:02] <jhutchins> bianca: I was asking what release of Ubuntu you're running because it makes a difference how 32b vs 64b libraries are handled.
[22:02] <jhutchins> bianca: Sorry, wheezy was the wrong term anyway.
[22:02] <bianca> im using 64 ubuntu
[22:02] <jhutchins> bianca: That's not how you do it.
[22:03] <jrib> [snake]: see workaround in bug 1068165 (note the file is different)
[22:03] <jhutchins> bianca: Yes, do you know which release?
[22:03] <Pici> tripelb: can you re-ask your question please?
[22:03] <XMLnewbi> is it bad to run nginx side by side with apache?
[22:03] <jhutchins> bianca: The system has to know it has the 32b libraries and know where to look for them.
[22:03] <bianca> 12.10
[22:04] <[snake]> jrib I ran the sudo apt-get install -f like they said, and that is the output. I was installing ia32-libs-gtk when it happened.
[22:04] <jhutchins> xlnt.  Let me check some details for you.
[22:04] <jrib> [snake]: did you read the bug report?
[22:04] <bianca> i found  this in the software center ATI binary X.Org driver
[22:04] <jrib> bianca: what do you mean by "this"?
[22:04] <bianca> apparently it breaks unity but better than nothing i guess
[22:04] <MichaelP> ubuntu 12.04 LTS sence it's long term does it get the newer kernels and other newer packages of 12.10. or is it always going to stay behind ?
[22:04] <[snake]> jrib, reading it now
[22:04] <bekks> MichaelP: yes.
[22:04] <bianca> jrib what are you talking about
[22:05] <bekks> MichaelP: But it willbe supported much longer than 12.10
[22:05] <jrib> MichaelP: the kernels are backported to LTS releases (apt-cache search -n linux-image backport)
[22:05] <jhutchins> bianca: Try sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[22:05] <jrib> bianca: I'm trying to understand what you say.
[22:05] <bianca> this is a word commonly used in the english language,
[22:05] <k1l_> MichaelP: the focus is not on the newest releases of the software
[22:05] <tripelb> my phone says that it is connected via USB and yet LSUSB does not show my phone what am I missing?
[22:05] <jrib> bianca: I know what the word means.  I'm asking what "this" refers to.
[22:06] <yakusa48> which one is better LAMPP (ubuntu) or XAMPP for Linux (apachefriend)?
[22:06] <jrib> !lamp | yakusa48
[22:06] <MichaelP> So the concept of LTS is like debian.. Working on it longer to make for a more stable system ?
[22:06] <bekks> yakusa48: Neither nor. Just install the according ubuntu packages.
[22:06] <jrib> yakusa48: use the lamp setup ubottu described; that way you get updates from the repositories
[22:07] <bianca> the thing i said after it
[22:07] <blablub234> hi. does somebody know why theres no efi loader on the ubuntu 12.10 x64 netinstall? (mini.iso)
[22:07] <jrib> bianca: ok
[22:07] <jrib> !who | bianca
[22:07] <k1l_> tripelb: depends on the phone i guess. some new phones use mtp
[22:07] <bianca> jhutchins do i have to restart after?
[22:07] <k1l_> bianca: do you actually want some to help you or do you only want to flame and rant?
[22:07] <linux111> your phone "ttyACM0"
[22:08] <bianca> im not flaming and ranting, i asked about 3 million questions and got nowhere so i stated some facts :)
[22:08] <jhutchins> bianca: Sholdn't.  Using apt-get should reload what's needed.
[22:08] <[snake]> jrib, ok that helped. I think it's working now.
[22:09] <jhutchins> k1l_: Patience, we're getting there.
[22:09] <linux111> /dev/ttyACM0
[22:11] <bianca> has anyone here seen all aussie adventures XD russell coight really knows his stuff xD
[22:11] <hamed> is there any way to reconfigure the graphic driver via command line in ubuntu? without connecting to the internet?
[22:11] <hamed> is there any way to reconfigure the graphic driver via command line in ubuntu? without connecting to the internet
[22:11] <hamed> ?
[22:11] <jrib> hamed: reconfigure it for what?
[22:12] <bianca> jhutchins its still giving me the error
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> hamed: what do you mean by 'reconfigure'
[22:13] <hamed> the low graphics mode dialog appeared in booint
[22:13] <hamed> booting*
[22:13] <hamed> and i can just access the command line
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> hamed: and what video chip please?
[22:14] <hamed> intel integrated
[22:14] <hamed> ubuntu 12.04
[22:14] <tripelb> k1l_:  layers of issues. i want to get lubuntu.iso off my necus 7 and onto any cd or flash dr. then i can make a livecd. i have livecd's of 9.04 also 11.04 but this celleron has trouble with the graphics.  thanks. -- after thay i will meed to chang my partitions to install over failed install, i didnt assign a swap.    f my
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> hamed: the driver is in a default install.
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> hamed: could try reinstalling the intel driver package
[22:15] <hamed> but i can't access the GUI
[22:15] <folorn> ive decided that theirs no hope skype will not install on ubuntu anyone else just give up :) lol or had issues putting skype on their machine?
[22:15] <OptimizedCoder> I'm seeing a samba share - but I do not know where it is coming from. Any way of finding this out?
[22:16] <DJones> tripelb: Have you tried the Airdroid app on the N7 to get access via wifi instead of cable?
[22:16] <yakusa48> thanks for your reply
[22:16] <dingo311> the only way i can run alsamixer is with the sudo command. i change the perms but they dont stick past a reboot...any ideas
[22:17] <jhutchins> bianca: It _should_ be able to find them, but at this point you probably have to look at some playonlinux support for how it wants to do it.  You might end up doing symlinks.  Also, dpkg -L ia32-libs and see what it put where, see if it got the glx libs.
[22:17] <tripelb> djones no wifi on gift old computer or in houser
[22:17] <tripelb>  this is lowest budget operation.
[22:18] <GA89> OerHeks: got to partitioning and it shows just usb, any suggestions?
[22:18] <DJones> tripelb: Ouch
[22:18]  * tripelb is on phone mow
[22:19] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: Come again?
[22:19] <tripelb> i know dj. i feel like the graveyard of computers so i got the nexus but it is limited until i root it.
[22:20] <tripelb> no I must go take the bus
[22:20] <tripelb> now
[22:20] <GA89> SonikkuAmerica: im installing ubuntu with minidisk (from net) and got to partitioning, and it only shows usb flash, not any other hard drives
[22:20] <bianca> http://pastebin.com/c90BxC1i
[22:20] <bianca> jhutchins http://pastebin.com/c90BxC1i
[22:21] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: OK, is that the text installer?
[22:21] <aupiff> hello, everyone. I am having a pretty weird problem with my ubuntu. I have executables in a dir that is part of my path and as I type in the commmand names, I can even tab complete them. However, when I try to actually execute the commands, i get a bash error saying that the file isn't found. any ideas?
[22:21] <jisawesome> raven_, Mine just installed automatically with the 6450
[22:22] <jisawesome> what version of ubuntu are you using
[22:22] <GA89> http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present im using 3. option
[22:22] <aupiff> precise
[22:22] <bianca> argh
[22:22] <GA89> made boot usb
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: Do you know if the minidisk has a PAE?
[22:23] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: (Physical address extension) Some don't.
[22:23] <GA89> shouldnt have
[22:23] <GA89> im using this because got dont have pae error
[22:24] <SonikkuAmerica> GA89: Do any of the suggestions on the page work for you?
[22:24] <GA89> well im trying step 3 now
[22:24] <GA89> havent tried other
[22:24] <ephesius> aupiff: do you have execute permission on them?
[22:24] <OerHeks> GA89, oke, check your bios, see if your HDD is set to IDE or AHCI, choose ahci. this could be the problem not seeing the hdd in linux
[22:25] <craigbass1976> Is this still valid?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/  I've followed the walkthrough but can't ping out to the wan from a client on the lan.
[22:25] <kish> !notunity
[22:25] <jhutchins> bianca: You don't have to restart Linux.  You probably have to restart whatever process is running under linux to support the games.
[22:25] <GA89> OerHeks: ok i will check
[22:25] <bianca> i did restart it
[22:26] <craigbass1976> hey dr_willis , just the person who might know the answer...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/  I've followed the walkthrough but can't ping out to the wan from a client on the lan
[22:26] <bianca> ill restart my pc anyway and see what happens, brb
[22:26] <dingo311> the only way i can run alsamixer is with the sudo command. i change the perms but they dont stick past a reboot...any ideas
[22:26] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Are you using the Live DVD/USB?
[22:26] <jhutchins> Annnd jhutchins gets caught in the scrollback again.
[22:27] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: no, server 12.04
[22:27] <yak_king> I have a printer connected to home network via wifi. Just downloaded driver... anyone mind walking a complete linux noob through a driver installation?
[22:27] <SonikkuAmerica> yak_king: Be glad to via PM if no one else wants to
[22:27] <jhutchins> Ok, really lame on the ia32-libs.
[22:28] <lain__> I'm running Xubuntu but using Fluxbox. Even though I have nm-applet on stratup, the Internet connection often doesn't work? What other process do I need to run upon startup? Strangely, if I log out and log into XFCE and then log back into Fluxbox, the Internet works. Thanks for any help.
[22:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Typically a ia32-libs problem workaround is to install wine.
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> yak_king: is it a standalone wifi printer, or is it hooked up to another pc?
[22:28] <yak_king> standalone
[22:28] <GA89> OerHeks: im starting to think there is no hdd or maybe its just dead :D cant find any options for it on boot menu
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> yak_king: can you ping the printer?
[22:28] <coldmate> DEOP coldmate
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lain__: when it doesn't work, is nmapplet running ok?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> lain__: have you considered trying wicd (assuming you dont use 3G)?
[22:29] <lain__> ActionParsnip: Yes, it is running and it shows that I am connected, and I can see the icon.
[22:29] <lain__> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[22:29] <GA89> OerHeks: thanks for help, im going to sleep, will try again tommorow :)
[22:30] <yak_king> Parsnip... I think you helped me on forums with an upgrade to 12.10 LOL I'm Buddy
[22:30] <yak_king> anyway... if it was you on forums you already know... I am completely illiterate when it comes to linux lol... how do I ping printer?
[22:30] <Baribal> Hi. I'd like to use the master archives (I need a package really urgently which hasn't mirrored to my repo yet). What do I need to replace de.archive.ubuntu.com by in sources.list?
[22:31] <k1l_> Baribal: just cut of the "de."
[22:31] <bianca> still not working.. obviously the drivers ont the ati website are bogus
[22:31] <Baribal> Thanks.
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> yak_king: same as in windows, ping ip.address.of.printer
[22:31] <k1l_> Baribal: but you can set this in the gui too
[22:31] <yak_king> ok great... lemme get printer to print out network info and will try that then pm you if that's ok
[22:32] <Baribal> k1l_, I'd rather not ssh -X into a bandwidth-stingy university. :)
[22:32] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  cant ping anything on the network - but the internet and stuff works?
[22:32] <bianca> where do i get my ati drivers from?
[22:33] <craigbass1976>  dr_willis I'm on the "router" pc right now.  My laptop though can't ping the external ip of this box.
[22:33] <k1l_> bianca: what is wrong with the ati drivers that come in the repos?
[22:33] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:   could be the router pc is not responding to pings
[22:33] <bianca> whats a repops?
[22:33] <bianca> whats a repos?
[22:33] <dr_willis> !repo | bianca
[22:33] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, my internal ip is
[22:33] <k1l_> bianca: repository
[22:34] <jhutchins> bianca: repository (of ubuntu packages).
[22:34] <bekks> craigbass1976: The external IP is normally not pingable from within a network.
[22:34] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  so the only issue is the pinging? or are there other problems?
[22:34] <bianca> i got my drivers from the ati website and its missing the 32bit libarys
[22:34] <jhutchins> bianca: the ia32-libs package causes several others to install, but I can't tell if it includes the glx stuff.  Seems to be pretty much everything.
[22:34] <k1l_> Baribal: well :)  i just mentioned because most users will find it easier to do this within the gui
[22:34] <jhutchins> bianca: What program gives you this error?
[22:35] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, no traffic at all is getting through this box from the lan.  I can ping 8.8.8.8 from here, but agian not from the laptop.  And can't browse, ssh, check email, etc from the lan either
[22:35] <Baribal> k1l_, so do I, and that'd be what I'd have tried locally. :) But on this machine, no dice.
[22:35] <jhutchins> bianca: The OLD answer - the one that worked - was to build a 32b install for running 32b, either as a multi-boot or a VM.
[22:35] <bianca> whaat..
[22:35] <bianca> can linux do anything..
[22:35] <jhutchins> bianca: Asking the ATI drivers to do multiarch when multiarch is not really working yet is a lot.
[22:36] <bianca> so what do i do? just not have open gl? let my $300 graphics card go to waist?
[22:36] <jhutchins> bianca: I haven't used windows as anything but a dumb terminal to run linux since 2004.
[22:37] <rasabin> hello how are people the linux
[22:37] <jhutchins> bianca: You play games written for linux, or somethng like steam's new stuff.
[22:37] <jhutchins> bianca: What program is complaining about the 32b libs?
[22:37] <bianca> how can i play games with no renderer
[22:37] <k1l_> jhutchins: i think the program used is playonlinux
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> bianca: linux does lots
[22:38] <jhutchins> bianca: You have a renderer.  You wouldn't expect to run the games on a mac.
[22:38] <bianca> exceot utilize my graphics card
[22:38] <bianca> mac has plenty of games
[22:38] <bianca> steam supports mac
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> bianca: which video chip do you have?
[22:38] <jhutchins> Seriously, why run Windows games on a Linux box anway?  Run them in Windows.
[22:38] <bianca> 7950
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> bianca: steam supports linux, they also recommend using linux too
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> !ati | bianca
[22:39] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins: He might be trying to run a 16-bit app in a 64-bit env which doesn't work
[22:39] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: did you see my reply? i am on server 12.04
[22:39] <nander> does anyone here have experience with vsftpd?
[22:40] <bekks> nander: Why?
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: I did, sorry I didn't respond
[22:40] <nander> I want to limit anonymous access to a certain ip-range, while keeping all ip's open for authenticated traffic
[22:40] <nander> the ip-range is a /16 ipv4 range
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> bianca: you don't need to manually download the driver, or visit any site and download them
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Weird. Are other changes in other programs persistent
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[22:40] <bianca> i give up
[22:40] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: its all good, i see you are busy
[22:41] <mikemonk> which terminal emulator would you recommend for windows? are there better alternatives than putty?
[22:41] <jhutchins> SonikkuAmerica: THe problem is the 32b ATI drivers in a 64b env, and I don't even know that it's a problem, but it's certainly a stretch to run software on the wrong OS on the wrong arch.
[22:41] <bianca> this is just me repeating myself over and over and over and over and over and over
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> bianca: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[22:41] <jhutchins> bianca: Steam also supports linux now.
[22:41] <bianca> idk what that means
[22:41] <bekks> nander: Never heard of a setup like that - and you cant distinguish between authed/anon access until the user finally authed/used anon access.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> bianca: in a terminal, run the command. What is output?
[22:42] <jhutchins> ActionParsnip: She's on 12.10.
[22:42] <bekks> nander: So technically, you cant close IPs for anon access.
[22:42] <nander> damm..
[22:42] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: seems to be, alsamixer is the only thing i'v tried and got that error, this is a fresh install too. installed ssh, apache, a few other things and nothing else.
[22:42] <nander> So I have to choose to block anon access or to use ip tables and block users I want to be able to authenticate?
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> bianca: ok, then run:  sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle     and reboot. Done.
[22:43] <bianca> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did you do that?
[22:43] <bianca> yes
[22:43] <bekks> nander: Correct. Thats because you only know wether a user uses anon access AFTER entering the credentials.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> bianca: have you tried running: sudo aticonfig --initial
[22:43] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Weird.
[22:44] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: What sound driver does it currently use?
[22:44] <bianca> Found fglrx primary device section
[22:44] <bianca> Using /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:44] <bianca> Saving back-up to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.fglrx-0
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> bianca: have you used that command before?
[22:44] <bianca> no
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> bianca: but its on the how to guide made by canonical for your GPU, so why not?
[22:46] <bianca> ? i dont know what your talking about
[22:46] <dirkounet> hello
[22:47] <bianca> i didnt do a guide, i just got the linux 86, 64 bit drivers from the ati website
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bianca: The command is on the guide for ATI GPUs for Ubuntu. Surely this would be the FIRST page you went to.....
[22:47] <dirkounet> maybe someone can help here. Trying to connect my usb-stick to ubuntu 12.10, but nothing is mounted, no icon on desktop etc
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bianca: logically
[22:47] <bianca> SORRY THAT I DONT KNOW EVERY WEBSITE EVER CREATED
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> dirkounet: is it a 3G stick?
[22:47] <dirkounet> but its listed when doing lsusb
[22:47] <bianca> dick.
[22:47] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: i think there was the old windows driver install way back in mind
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> bianca: but a simple web search would have showed you, you don't have to know every page
[22:48] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: this is the code i use "sudo chmod -R a+rwX /dev/snd"
[22:48] <SonikkuAmerica> dirkounet: Try [ sudo mount <whatever the location of the USB stick is> ]
[22:48] <k1l_> !language | bianca
[22:48] <codephobic> hi
[22:48] <dirkounet> ActionParsnip: do not think so, manually mounting works
[22:48] <Dice-Man> hello how to configure my keyboard on 12.10 ?
[22:48] <k1l_> bianca: people are trying to help you. so calm down
[22:48] <Dice-Man> sometimes some touches are locked
[22:48] <Dice-Man> like ctrl
[22:48] <Dice-Man> alt gr
[22:48] <Dice-Man> or #
[22:48] <FloodBot1> Dice-Man: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <dirkounet> i simply want to have an automount (for the iphone it works without doing anything)
[22:48] <bianca> no hes just harassing me
[22:49] <codephobic> How do I get Ubuntu's boot menu to find an install of Debian on my system?
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: I'm not familiar with that switch syntax... can you give me a numeric equivalent for (-R a+rwX)?
[22:49] <sw> Hi, if I have a 512 MB / 1 CPU / 20 GB SSD Disk server, should I run 12.10 32-bit or 64-bit?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> bianca: instead of trying to guess how things work in an OS you are clearly not versed with, why not try and find guides on how to do it properly, you'll be less frustrated when what you think is how something is done doesn't work
[22:49] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: 777 maybe?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> bianca: i gave you the official how to, and you clearly haven't read it
[22:49] <bianca> im not finding this guide your talking about
[22:49] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: "sudo update-grub" should see it.
[22:49] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: alsa says the card is nvidia, chipset  Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)
[22:49] <k1l_> bianca: no he is not. dont take it personally that something doesnt work like you thing it should be
[22:50] <bianca> well thats a lie you did no such thing
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> sw: I'd go for xubuntu 32bit or Lubuntu 32bit
[22:50] <dirkounet> SonikkuAmerica: as i said, mounting manually works
[22:50] <bianca> your pissing me off and not helping
[22:50] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I tried that but doesn't pick up the debian install
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> 22:38 < ActionParsnip> !ati | bianca
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: That's the GPU, not the sound card
[22:50] <sw> ActionParsnip: No desktop environment, server ... Definetly 32-bit though?
[22:50] <rbookhouse> When my pc does absolutely nothing (even when its been doing nothing for hours) the hard disk light still blinks every 2 seconds or so... is there a way to completely stop the light blinking (without physically cutting the connection) - the pc is in a bedroom and its very annoying
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> bianca: right before you wrote 'i give up'
[22:50] <SonikkuAmerica> dirkounet: Oh, I see.
[22:50] <codephobic> I installed debian on a second hd (sdb) but within a logical partition. I'm not sure if that affects anything.
[22:50] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Is os-prober installed?
[22:50] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, hmm not sure, how would I check?
[22:51] <Dizzle> rbookhouse put a piece of tape over it?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> sw: if the cpu is 64bit then i'd go 64bit
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: "sudo apt-get install os-prober"
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> bianca: anyhoo, try a reboot now
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: If it is, it won't do anything. if it isn't it'll install.
[22:51] <rbookhouse> Dizzle, that doesn't stop it blinking
[22:51] <codephobic> ah, k I'll check now
[22:51] <Dizzle> rbookhouse sorry i was under the impression the light was bothering you
[22:51] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: i thought so
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Which distro did you install second?
[22:52] <codephobic> seems to be already installed
[22:52] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I installed debian squeeze.
[22:52] <rbookhouse> Dizzle, it does - but i want it to stop blinking - not hide the fact its blinking
[22:52] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: After Ubuntu?
[22:52] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, yes
[22:52] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: When it asked to install a boot loader, did you pick no?
[22:53] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, the problem is that I didn't install grub at the end of the debian install... I figured Ubuntu's grub2 would pick it up, but not working.
[22:53] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: in alsamixer, i press f2 for sys info and it closes
[22:53] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I did pick "no", thinking grub2 (ubuntu) would find it.
[22:54] <codephobic> instead grub2 finds old (removed) instances of debian and ubuntu, rather than the fresh install
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Can you run update-grub and post the output to pastebin?
[22:54] <codephobic> I think I need to clean up grub
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: I'll take a look.
[22:54] <codephobic> k, one moment
[22:54] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: this is where i got the chmod code: http://plethoracomputers.com/index.php/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,277/catid,4/func,view/id,89/
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: You could also try reinstalling grub in Ubuntu.
[22:55] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, I tried that
[22:55] <countley> is there a good speech recognition  for ubuntu
[22:55] <codephobic> (as well as update-grub), but neither have found debian.
[22:55] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Can you post it to pastebin?
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> countley  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SpeechRecognition
[22:56] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, http://pastebin.com/CWrRkQBz
[22:57] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: 00:07.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1) /per lspci
[22:57] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: I know your problem.
[22:57] <codephobic> katsumeblisk, oh?
[22:57] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: Boot into the top 3.2.x kernel. I think grub is seeing Debian as another Ubuntu install.
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> countley  here's more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2014005
[22:57] <codephobic> oh
[22:57] <katsumeblisk> codephobic: That may fix it. If not, idk
[22:57] <codephobic> hmm, that's interesting.
[22:57] <codephobic> ok, I'll give it a go now
[22:58] <codephobic> thanks for the help katsumeblisk :)
[22:58] <bianca> same issue
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: I just got burned. Weird.
[22:59] <countley> MonkeyDust cheers
[22:59] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: ouch, what all did you miss?
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica>  SonikkuAmerica: 00:07.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1) /per lspci <<< That.
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> bianca: can you run:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep fgl     and pastebin the output please
[23:04] <bianca> http://pastebin.com/vGQZ3pk6
[23:04] <bianca> wait what
[23:05] <bianca> why does it say the clock is 22 mhz
[23:05] <bianca> 33*
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> bianca: driver=fglrx_pci    driver is loaded
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> bianca: not sure. I've seen high end cards say similar. I wouldn't sweat it
[23:06] <bianca> it should be like 800mhz?
[23:06] <bianca> well its still giving me the error
[23:07] <k1l_> which error?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> bianca: i have buddies with decent nvidia cards with the same output
[23:07] <k1l_> and who is giving it?
[23:07] <bianca> are you kidding me?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> bianca: try installing super tux cart, or something like that
[23:07] <Ben64> bianca: dude. chill out
[23:08] <bianca> sick of repeating myself
[23:08] <ephesius> its a public channel people come and go
[23:08] <MondayMondayMond> bianca:  way to speak to a bunch of people volunteering their time
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> bianca: again, have you ried super tux cart (or similar)
[23:08] <dr_willis> it pays to be verbose on IRC -  messages can appear out of order. and people constantly get disconnected/reconnected
[23:09] <k1l_> bianca: i think you should try to make a support thead in the ubuntuforums. i dont think that is gonna take a good end here on irc :/
[23:09] <bianca> well you were here every time someone asked me
[23:10] <bianca> and people ask then say nothing
[23:10] <vitimiti> hi
[23:10] <bianca> peoand yous kepe making meput  all this stuff in terminal but ive got nowehere
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> bianca: do other 3D games run ok?
[23:10] <bianca> wait i have to download something
[23:11] <k1l_> bianca: we dont know what you did and what is actually going on there. so we need to ask to get a clue
[23:11] <Xen> I am wondering about software raid setup on ubuntu 12.04 LTS, I have a raid failure and in messing around I screwed something up.  I am wondering about how it should be setup.  I have a large partition and small one on each disk (swap section and data sections) and I am wondering, how they should be combined in raid.  ie: small with small, or large with small and vice versa)
[23:11] <vitimiti> I have this message when logging in my system, and I'd like to know if it's a big deal or if there's any solution, since i can't seem to finde anything about this http://pastebin.com/L8xnCTvz thanks beforehand
[23:11] <k1l_> bianca: i really recommend you to use the forums for support, since you dont seem to like the way irc works.
[23:11] <dr_willis> Hmm. Dont usb3 hds have smart info? noticed thats greyed out in the disk manager tool for my new USB3 3TB hd..
[23:12] <bianca> kick me then
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> vitimiti: what is the output of:  uname -a
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> bianca: try other 3D games, like super tux cart
[23:12] <bianca> I AM
[23:12] <vitimiti> ActionParsnip, Linux vitimiti-K53U 3.5.0-22-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:47:00 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:12] <k1l_> bianca: i just want you to stop making the drama.
[23:12] <bianca> stop repeating yourself
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> bianca: cool, let me know how you go
[23:13] <Ben64> dr_willis: they do have smart info, but not everything can see it from usb
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: you never replied to me
[23:13] <bianca> i did
[23:13] <bianca> all 3 times
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> vitimiti: are you using an Asus K73TA?
[23:13] <ephesius> bianca: if you had responded and told him you were trying it he wouldn't have asked over and over
[23:13] <dr_willis> Ben64:   that may be why i thought i saw it on other usb hds.. got a new HD.. wanting to sort of test it out.. its a bit noisy and clcks when i first power it up. but from what reviews ive seen.. its just a loud noisy drive.
[23:13] <vitimiti> ActionParsnip, an ASUS-K53U
[23:14] <dr_willis> Ben64:  getting these days where i dont trust HDs very much. ;)
[23:14] <Ben64> i know what you mean
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> vitimiti: possibly related https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1019417
[23:14] <bianca> omg im not talking anymore, everyones so fucused on telling how to use a f*ing chatroom instead of helping
[23:14] <dr_willis> and this is supposed to be my backup drive. ;)  getting  80MB/s to it via usb3 to usb3
[23:14] <vitimiti> ActionParsnip, thanks, let me check it :)
[23:15] <Ben64> bianca: because you don't seem to know how to respond to people without an attitude
[23:15] <bianca> = hours of getting nowhere
[23:15] <MondayMondayMond> bianca: somebody has a case of the mondays
[23:15] <dr_willis> thats what often happens with cutting edge hardware. - linux support/drivers have not caught up with the hw quirks.
[23:15] <Ben64> bianca: i looked back about 40 minutes, and most of it is you complaining. if you put the same effort into trying to solve the problem, maybe you'd be done by now
[23:16] <heywood> planning to enable openssh-server on my home server running 12.04.1 LTS. the box sits behind a firewall router running NAT. root is disabled (as per ubuntu default); one user account that is listed in sudoers.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> bianca: are there bugs reported?
[23:16] <bianca> in windows, i could have literally just moved the files i need to the right place, you cant do that in linux :)
[23:16] <heywood> question is, is it considered best practice to make a separate account, with a super-strong password, for access from the outside?
[23:16] <bianca> i havent finnished downloading yet, my internet is slow
[23:17] <Ben64> heywood: you should have a good password anyway, but you can use your normal account
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> bianca: gksudo nautilus $HOME    you can put any file anywhere
[23:17] <bianca> it didnt work it said i havent set permissions for nautalis
[23:17] <bianca> like i said like an hour ago
[23:17] <Ben64> yes, because we all saw what you wrote an hour ago :|
[23:18] <heywood> Ben64: existing password is pretty strong (mixed case, punctuation, numbers) but i'm paranoid about it not being strong enough when the box is exposed to the intarwebs.
[23:18] <Dice-Man> hello people
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> bianca: then run:  sudo -i   and you can cp the files where you want
[23:18] <Ben64> heywood: it would be a good idea to change the ssh port. lots of bots run scans on port 22
[23:18] <heywood> Ben64: perhaps i should just change my existing password to the very long one?
[23:18] <Dice-Man> how to configure my keyboard please ?
[23:19] <Ben64> heywood: put on fail2ban, combined with your already good password, and you should be fine
[23:19] <bianca> Error moving file: Permission denied
[23:19] <bianca> i need to merge folders
[23:19] <heywood> Ben64: thought about that too. router can do port forwarding, so i could forward a random high-numbered port (WAN) to 192.168.xx.yy:22 (LAN), specifying the machine running sshd. would that plus fail2ban be sufficient?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Dice-Man: what make and model keyboard please?
[23:20] <bianca> omfg its my os why the hell cant i do what i want?
[23:20] <Ben64> heywood: yeah, it'd take billions of combinations to figure out your password, and fail2ban doesn't give them that many tries :)
[23:20] <k1l_> bianca: what are you trying to copy from where to where?
[23:20] <bianca> om, the repeating myself thing again
[23:20] <k1l_> bianca: stop that!
[23:21] <bencc> what is precise-backports repo?
[23:21] <Ben64> bianca: if you haven't said it in the past 5 minutes it didn't happen
[23:21] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: i guess the chmod would be 777
[23:21] <k1l_> bianca: answer the easy questions or leave the support channel if you dont want to recieve help
[23:21] <heywood> Ben64: ok, thanks. out of curiosity, is there a way to assign a (very long) password to an account when accessed via ssh, and a regular one when accessed at the console? would that even make sense?
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Yeah
[23:21] <heywood> (sorry -- very much a noob at security. just paranoid, maybe.)
[23:21] <bianca> im trying to merge a usr an ect folde ron my desktop with thoughs in my /
[23:21] <Ben64> heywood: well..... you could disable passwords and use keys instead, even more secure
[23:22] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: i thought you asked what the number equivilant would be
[23:22] <heywood> Ben64: is there a tutorial for that somewhere?
[23:22] <Ben64> heywood: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[23:22] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: Yeah, I looked it up
[23:22] <heywood> Ben64: specifically, i'm not sure how that would work for access from the machine's keyboard directly (i.e. physical access)
[23:23] <SonikkuAmerica> dingo311: But I don't know about that NVIDIA audio chip.
[23:23] <Ben64> heywood: well password would still work locally, just over ssh you'd need the key
[23:23] <bianca> but you cant do that in linux because it has a babyproofed commandline
[23:23] <MondayMondayMond> bianca: sudo..
[23:23] <bianca> i did sudo
[23:23] <bianca> you still cant
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> bianca: [ sudo -i ] first before the command maybe?
[23:24] <bianca> because the move command cont comprehend or wrap its head around the idea of the folder already exsisting in the destination, and having files in it already?! outragious
[23:24] <k1l_> bianca: can you show the command you used?
[23:24] <heywood> Ben64: ah, OK, that would be perfect. i'm fine creating a key for remote access (which i will probably only ever do from my one and only laptop). local login w/ existing PW would be just fine.
[23:24] <bianca> and apparently theres no merge command.. sooo.. its impossible to merge folders in linux
[23:25] <dingo311> SonikkuAmerica: me either, didnt have this issue on desktop version ever...maybe not related but ssh keys dont seem to be working and earlir today i could not access anything but everything was running. a reboot fixed that, but then i realised i needed sudo for alsa again
[23:25] <bianca> no i cannot
[23:25] <nathan_> is there anyway i can setup ssh server so that whereever it is in the world i can connect to it WITHOUT having to modify (open port 22 ) on the router??
[23:25] <geoff__> I am stuck in here and can't get out - what command should I use - thanks heaps
[23:25] <overdub> bianca, rsync can merge directories
[23:25] <k1l_> bianca: last time: stop that ranting. that is not gonna help you anyway and just making users forget your real problem!
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> bianca: if you run ath amd catalyst control centre, do you get any errors etc?
[23:25] <overdub> or at least sync one directory to another
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: you need to open the port on the router, or the connection will be dropped
[23:26] <k1l_> geoff__: want to leave the irc? or just change to another channel?
[23:26] <bianca> no?
[23:26] <heywood> bianca: you could try cp -i. that would effectively allow you to merge two directories without overwriting (or with selective overwriting). of course that would take a long time if you have many files.
[23:26] <geoff__> leave channel
[23:26] <k1l_> geoff__: /part
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> bianca: does it show the driver in use and so forth?
[23:26] <geoff__> thanks kil
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: its the nature of NAT which all router use
[23:27] <bianca> i forgot the move command, and i want to overweight
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> bianca: mv  is the move command
[23:27] <overdub> oh my bad, don't want to overwrite existing files, rsync might not work for you then
[23:27] <bianca> yes
[23:27] <heywood> bianca: mv -f will force overwrite. add a sudo if you have permissions issues.
[23:27] <bianca> clock = 1250 :3
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> bianca: but the driver is in use and so forth
[23:28] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: playonlinux and some other game was the inital problem, irrc
[23:28] <heywood> Ben64: anyway, thanks for the link. i think i'll change the password to something even longer anyway, and stick to key-based access for 99% of the time.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> bianca: maybe its steam being wierd then , if open gams run ok then its a wine issue (check appdb for compatibility)
[23:29] <bianca> root@raven-pc:~# mv -f '/home/raven/Desktop/usr' '/home/raven/Desktop/etc' '/'
[23:29] <bianca> mv: cannot move `/home/raven/Desktop/usr' to `/usr': Directory not empty
[23:29] <bianca> mv: cannot move `/home/raven/Desktop/etc' to `/etc': Directory not empty
[23:29] <Ben64> why are you trying to overwrite stuff in /usr and /etc anyway
[23:30] <heywood> Ben64: heck, i can always do admin stuff locally from the laptop even if i'm sitting next to the machine. easier than having to type the very long PW over and over again (i have the screen set to lock after only a few minutes)
[23:30] <bianca> it has fine compatibility
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> bianca: you will need to copy the files from within those folders to the folders themselves if you cannot find a merge command
[23:30] <bianca> what...
[23:30] <heywood> bianca: mv -f /home/raven/Desktop/usr/* /usr/* maybe?
[23:31] <dr_willis> or use the 'mc' file manager as root. ;) thats what i normally do for cli needs
[23:31] <heywood> bianca: but that really will overwrite stuff in /usr ... as others have noted, that might be a bit risky.
[23:31] <bianca> well it didnt work
[23:31] <bianca> directory is not empty
[23:31] <heywood> bianca: oops... i meant mv -f /home/raven/Desktop/usr/* /usr/ maybe?
[23:31] <bianca> it blows my mind how stupid this is
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> bianca: if you cannot copy them as you tried, then go into each folder and copy the files in the subfolders individually
[23:31] <themill> .o0( mv isn't stupid )
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> bianca: why are you manually copying stuff to /usr and /etc?
[23:32] <bianca> still same thing, directory isnt empty
[23:32] <Ben64> mkdir /home/raven/Desktop/tobemerged; mv /home/raven/Desktop/usr /home/raven/Desktop/etc /home/raven/Desktop/tobemerged/; sudo rsync -avP /home/raven/Desktop/tobemerged/* /
[23:32] <Ben64> type that, break your system, i don't care
[23:32] <bianca> cause when i googled the issue it gave me the files im missing
[23:33] <heywood> bianca: if it's the files inside /home/raven/Desktop/usr/ that you want to move, then that should work just fine. you're probably getting that error due to trying to move directories inside .../Desktop/usr/ onto identically-named directories inside /usr/
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> bianca: can you pastebin the output of:   find ~/Desktop      Thanks
[23:33] <heywood> Ben64: your shell-fu is strong. :)
[23:34] <lbj_90> My mouse is locking up after clicking one of the side buttons and I remember there's a way to get a readout of mouse position and clicks but I don't remember how to get to it. Anybody know? I thought it was dmesg but I want a live readout
[23:34] <bianca> LOL.. that made a folder called tobemerged and its not doing anything..
[23:34] <Ben64> heywood: its not very fancy
[23:34] <Ben64> bianca: you probably didn't type it correctly
[23:34] <bianca> i copyed it
[23:34] <heywood> no, but better than my ham-handed suggestion. i always have to look at the manpage for rsync on the rare occasion i need to use it.
[23:36] <bianca> hmm i think it worked
[23:36] <dr_willis> lbj_90:  the xev command perhaps
[23:36] <tripelb> i want to ruen 4 partitions into 2 and resize does not like a zero size. what's to do?
[23:36] <bianca> is it meant to delete the origonal or not?
[23:36] <Ben64> no
[23:36] <lbj_90> that's what's up tripleb, thanks!!
[23:36] <dr_willis> tripelb:  you plan on keeping the data intact?
[23:37] <bianca> brb
[23:37] <heywood> Ben64: do i understand correctly that the bit at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring#disable-password-authentication applies only to passwords used for ssh login attempts, and that it doesn't apply to local logins?
[23:37] <tripelb> and i forgot the teeminal command to list the partitions so i only have the gui. help help did not help.
[23:37] <Ben64> heywood: yep
[23:37] <dr_willis> heywood:  you can set up keys for ssh where theres no need for a password..
[23:38] <Ben64> tripelb: sudo fdisk -l
[23:38] <heywood> IOW, if i disable PW auth as described, i'll need keys for ssh, but my local login still works as before.
[23:38] <lbj_90> dr_willis: thanks to you, read the wrong name at first...thanks!
[23:38] <dr_willis> tripelb:  sudo blkid or    cfdisk -l or fdisk -l
[23:38] <dr_willis> heywood:  it does not affect local login at all.
[23:38] <heywood> dr_willis: right. i think that's what i want to do. (long pre-stored key for ssh from my laptop, regular PW for login at the server's keyboard)
[23:38] <Ben64> tripelb: and if you want to remove 2 partitions, you need to remove them, not resize them to zero
[23:39] <dr_willis> heywood:  simple way is to use the 'ssh-copy-id' command to copy keys around. then you can use keys., or password
[23:39] <dr_willis> once you get it working without passwd. you can disable the passwd auth
[23:39] <Ben64> i love ssh keys, lets me log into my server, my raspberry pi, my desktop, my laptop without ever having to type a password
[23:40] <Ben64> from my phone, or from any of the aforementioned devices
[23:40] <heywood> dr_willis: ok, seems like a bit of a chicken-and-egg thing, but relatively low-risk if i only do it the one time (and then disable PW once the ssh-copy-id stuff is set up. correct?
[23:40] <dingo311> Ben64: then maybe you can help me with ssh keys. i copy the key into authorized_keys but still have to put in a password
[23:41] <Troy^> How does one get plank dock to start at boot?
[23:41] <heywood> in theory, a (single) PW-based ssh login should not be sniffable so as to reveal the PW.
[23:41] <Sgt_Shultz> & allow someone 2 scan u as u walk past ....
[23:41] <dr_willis> heywood:  or you copy the files over via a flash drive.. but copy-id is easier
[23:41] <Ben64> dingo311: you might need to restart the ssh server
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: add the item to the startup items
[23:42] <heywood> dr_willis: understood. unfortunately my laptop and i are several thousand km away from the server at the moment. :o
[23:42] <dr_willis> Troy^:  whats 'plank dock' ? theres the ~/.config/autostart/ directory
[23:42] <dr_willis> heywood:  id keep password auth enabled then.. just in case the keys get messed up ;)
[23:42] <dingo311> Ben64: i use sudo service ssh restart
[23:43] <heywood> dr_willis: ok. but i should be safe disabling once i can verify that the key-based ssh login works, right?
[23:43] <heywood> ... disabling PW auth, that is.
[23:43] <dr_willis> heywood:  should be.. but often i have issues with testing out a new client on my phone with getting the keys working. so its nice to have passwd to fallback on
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: there is a 'startup apps' item in dash, run plank at boot
[23:44] <heywood> dr_willis: ok. maybe i'll just change the PW to something very very long as an intermediate step (in addition to setting up the ssh keys).
[23:44] <Ben64> dingo311: you need the key from the id_rsa.pub on the client in the authorized_keys on the server
[23:44] <Troy^> Ok, i found that, But I really don't know where plank resides.
[23:44] <Ben64> Troy^: type "which plank"
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: run:    which plank    and it will tell you
[23:44] <heywood> maybe i'm being too paranoid, but i feel like i need to be (much) more cautious as soon as i expose the machine to the open internet.
[23:45] <dr_willis> heywood:  got a tinfoil hat to go with the paranoia also? ;)
[23:45] <Troy^> ActionParsnip and Ben64 thanks
[23:45] <dr_willis> heywood:  check out fail2ban and logwatch also to keep an eye on it
[23:45] <Vivekananda> hello everyone : A very simple question about xchat in ubuntu lucid. I type /msg or /MSG nickname hello and it does NOt open a new window and shows the hello sent to the nick but on the main channel page itself shows --- >nickname<| hello
[23:45] <heywood> dr_willis: thin titanium. much more stylish and durable.
[23:45] <Vivekananda> whi si this
[23:45] <heywood> i think everyone will be wearing them in a few years.
[23:45] <Ben64> Vivekananda: use /query
[23:45] <dr_willis> Vivekananda:  most likely an xchat setting. check its docs?
[23:45] <frijol> hola
[23:46] <lbj_90> xev doesn't display anything when I click the button that freezes up my mouse. any other recommendations?
[23:46] <k1l_> Vivekananda: single /msgs are sent as a single message and dont open a query
[23:46] <nathan_> is there anyway i can setup ssh server so that whereever it is in the world i can connect to it WITHOUT having to modify (open port 22 ) on the router??
[23:46] <Vivekananda> Ben64: pardon my ignorance but how do I use /query ? can someone point me to it.
[23:46] <dingo311> Ben64: this is on my phone. i generate a key, copy it, paste into ~.ssh/authorized_keys and restart
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: no, its not possible. you must open port 22/tcp on the router
[23:46] <Ben64> Vivekananda: same way as /msg
[23:47] <nathan_> serious Actionparsnip
[23:47] <dr_willis> router has to know where to send the request. ;)
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: yes
[23:47] <Vivekananda> k1l_: how do I send a window message ?? as Ben64 says /query
[23:47] <Vivekananda> hmm
[23:47] <heywood> nathan_: do you know if your router can do port forwarding?
[23:47] <nathan_> what about a tunnel...( still dont know/ understand how to yet)
[23:47] <dr_willis> tunnle would still need ssh access/port forwarding
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: like dr_willis says, you need to tell the router where to push the connection as well as allow asynchronous traffic in, the nature of routers gives a firwall by it dropping unsolicited connection attempts, unless you make a rule
[23:48] <nathan_> well thats not the problem actually...if the router can port forward the thing is i wont have access to the various routers settings
[23:48] <k1l_> Vivekananda: did you acutally try "/query nickname"?
[23:48] <usr13> nathan_: The process would be to forward port 22 to an inside IP, (which would need to be a static lease, or static IP).
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: if you want an SSH tunnel, you still need a connection to the system from the outside
[23:49] <nathan_> cant ssh listen on another port? a higher level port?
[23:49] <Vivekananda> I tried /QUERY BEN hello and it just opened a new window but I dont see my "hello" anywhere on it :(
[23:49] <nathan_> or on port 80?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: you can tweak the port if you wish, it allows you to connect to multiple SSH servers
[23:50] <Ben64> Vivekananda: well after the window is opened you could use /msg
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: your router may be able to push connections to different port numbers, most home grade routers use the same port number for the forward as they connect on
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: you can change the port number in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> nathan_: changing the port number will not give any security
[23:52] <nathan_> Actionparsnip ?? i thought ssh worked on encryption.. how is it not secure than.??
[23:52] <nathan_> how does changing the port make it less secure
[23:52] <XMLnewbi> anyone got some time to help me set up Vhosts on my ubuntu 12.04 server? ive been crunching at this a couple days and still cant get more the one domain on my VPS
[23:53] <nathan_> anyway thanks for your help ima google it further
[23:53] <nathan_> exit
[23:53] <nathan_> exit
[23:53] <FloodBot1> nathan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <heywood> nathan_: if your router can do port forwarding, you could forward some random high-numbered port on the WAN (internet-facing) side to port 22 on the LAN (local network) side. i think you could also restrict it to a specific IP on the LAN side as well.
[23:54] <tripelb> ben64 ah i was going by the askubuntu page. i'll be bac in a sec. gonna switch to see the page on nexus7. now on phone which will become hotspot. is this ghetto tech or a fresh way if doing things, she jokes.
[23:55] <XMLnewbi> I can see why people pay for cpanel now
[23:55] <Ben64> ew, cpanel
[23:55] <Ben64> i wouldn't use it if it was free
[23:56] <merlini_xu> When i update my ubuntu ,It will report this message "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)".anyone can help me.
[23:57] <XMLnewbi> do you use any control panel?      can you point me to a good Vhosts command line tutorial. Ive tried a bunch and no luck yet
[23:57] <Ben64> no, i just use a command line :)
[23:58] <dingo311> guys, why wont my permissions for alsamixer stick after a reboot? i have to use sudo to run it. this is on server 12. never had this issue with the desktop distro
[23:59] <Vivekananda> Ben64: Do you mean that I should type /query Ben64 and then /msg Ben64 Hello to show the hello ?
[23:59] <Ben64> Vivekananda: yeah
[23:59] <cmdr> hello