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[06:41] <mundonet> hola
[06:41] <mundonet> hay alguien??
[06:42] <mundonet> que hable español??
[06:42] <Unit193> !es | mundonet
[06:42] <ubottu> mundonet: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #xubuntu-es; escriba "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. Si nadie responde, puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.
[06:43] <mundonet> gracias
[06:45] <Unit193> Da nada.
[07:10] <xubuntu048> so Have a question
[07:11] <xubuntu048> regarding the best server to use with xubuntu
[07:14] <xubuntu048> whatever... no response i'm out
[09:02] <heraclitis> I'm having problems with my networking connection. I try to ping my loopback, no response. My gateway, no response.
[09:02] <baizon> heraclitis: post your ifconfig output on paste.ubuntu.com please
[09:03] <moetunes> heraclitis:  does   ifconfig -a   show the device is UP ?
[09:06] <heraclitis> moetunes: yes pasting in a few seconds. Had to transfer from one computer to another.
[09:08] <heraclitis> Pasted.
[09:08] <baizon> heraclitis: post link here ;)
[09:08] <heraclitis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1557867/
[09:08] <heraclitis> I see how that works. That's pretty awesome.
[09:09] <baizon> heraclitis: try to ping 192.168.0.1
[09:10] <baizon> or what is your gateways ip adress?
[09:10] <heraclitis> I waited 13103ms, 100% packet loss. 14 packets transmitted. And my gateway is 192.168.0.1
[09:10] <heraclitis> ip address 192.168.0.80
[09:10] <heraclitis> netmask 255.255.255.0
[09:11] <baizon> heraclitis: yes, saw it on your paste
[09:11] <heraclitis> ignore ipv6, it's irrelevant (my router doesn't support it).
[09:11] <baizon> is it your home network?
[09:12] <heraclitis> It is my home network.
[09:12] <baizon> heraclitis: you dont use a mac filter right?
[09:12] <heraclitis> negative
[09:13] <heraclitis> Never could get that configuration to work properly. lol
[09:15] <heraclitis> What baffles me is that I can't even ping my own computer.
[09:15] <baizon> you cant ping localhost?
[09:17] <moetunes> is there a /etc/hosts file that mentions localhost ?
[09:18] <heraclitis> negative. And when I ping from my laptop, I get this response: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1557884/
[09:18] <heraclitis> And no, I can't ping localhost. Give me one second moetunes. I'll check
[09:20] <baizon> heraclitis: try to ping 127.0.0.1
[09:20] <heraclitis> I have 127.0.0.1 listed as Localhost in /etc/hosts. And 127.0.1.1 as $compname in the same file.
[09:21] <heraclitis> I ping 127.0.0.1 with 100% packet loss
[09:25] <heraclitis> I've been monitoring the interface with wireshark, and I get icmp Destination unreachable (host unreachable) errors. All traffic is local, from 46132 using the UDP protocol
[09:25] <moetunes> can you paste /etc/hosts ?
[09:25] <heraclitis> Occasionally I'll get an attempted ARP to the default gateway. And I'll paste that in a second.
[09:27] <moetunes> I'm pretty sure it'll be a config somewhere
[09:28] <heraclitis> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1557904/
[09:29] <moetunes> so hostname is unreal?
[09:29] <heraclitis> Yes
[09:30] <heraclitis> It was the first thing that came to mind
[09:30] <heraclitis> While installing
[09:30] <heraclitis> You know, like "unreal, man"
[09:30] <moetunes> what is setting the eth1 to 198.168.0.80 ?
[09:31] <moetunes> why is it 127..0.1.1 in /etc/hosts?
[09:31] <moetunes> why is it 127.0.1.1 in /etc/hosts?
[09:32] <heraclitis> My networking connections is setting it to 192.168.0.80. Manual configuration. And I don't know why it's 127.0.1.1 That caught my attention as well.  Should I make it the same as localhost?
[09:32] <moetunes> no - make it 192.168.0.80
[09:33] <heraclitis> Okay one sec.
[09:39] <heraclitis> Done, restarted networking. I get this error when restarting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1557947/
[09:41] <heraclitis> I'm guessing my /etc/network/interfaces should contain something referring to eth0 or eth1 and their ip configuration, but I don't know the syntax, or if I'm right.
[09:44] <moetunes> try    service network restart
[09:46] <heraclitis> I believe the syntax of that command would be "service networking restart" and it says stop:Unknown instance:Start: Job failed to start
[09:46] <heraclitis> Bad formatting there.
[09:48] <moetunes> have you installed xubuntu in ubuntu then manually set the network up?
[09:49] <moetunes> seems like you need to set the /etc/network/interfaces file up manually too
[09:54] <heraclitis> No, it was a fairly fresh install of xubuntu from the desktop iso image. I needed something faster than ubuntu. And I just tried setting up the /etc/network/interfaces file manually. No luck. Same error as before. I followed the syntax for static routing as shown here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_syntax_of_etc_network_interfaces
[09:55] <heraclitis> I actually have two network adaptors. Both were working until this last boot. Now one says "device not managed". And the other is giving me problems.
[09:56] <heraclitis> I've even tried using usb instead of ethernet to connect. I do have dhcp disabled on my modem, and I'm using google's dns servers. So I have to statically route.
[09:57] <moetunes> ok. I'd try another reboot just to check if it is a one of glitch or check in dmesg for clues on why it filed
[09:58] <moetunes> *failed
[09:58] <heraclitis> okay. Rebooting now.
[10:01] <heraclitis> The plymouth splash screen says "Waiting for network configuration". That's new. Doesn't seem to be working. How do I access dmesg? And what sort of clues should I watch for?
[10:04] <moetunes> I would start with   dmesg | grep -i net   in a terminal
[10:07] <heraclitis> I don't know how to read this output, so I'll send it your way. Give me a sec.
[10:09] <heraclitis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1558101/
[10:15] <moetunes> there seems to be some fail there on the "terminated with status 1" lines and the last suggests networkmanager is starting
[10:17] <heraclitis> I discovered one error, in the /etc/network/interfaces. Where it said "iface lo", it should have said "auto lo". So now I can ping localhost "unreal" (compname).
[10:18] <heraclitis> Now I need to gain lan access. I'm going to try to reboot, and see if the changes to /etc/network/interfaces made a difference.
[10:22] <heraclitis> Off topic, but how to I read the messages that are listed during shutdown? I keep getting something about "insecure pipe" (to paraphrase immensely). It scrolls by too quickly to read it. I know it's not related to this issue though.
[10:25] <heraclitis> I've restarted. I'm now getting a massive packet loss while pinging the default gateway, but I'm getting one. Average packet loss seems to be about 94%. (2 of 35 received). Making progress. Lol
[10:25] <heraclitis> No connection to outside world, though.
[10:28] <moetunes> shutdown messages aren't logged anywhere
[10:30] <heraclitis> Before restart, I also edited the /etc/network/interfaces to read: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1558224/
[10:30] <moetunes> I'm guessing there is still something upn with your interfaces file
[10:32] <moetunes> remove the dns-domain line and eth0 can't be auto and static afaik
[10:35] <heraclitis> I just remembered something that may make a difference. I've been playing around with tor for a while, and me being the "monkey see, monkey do" type with computers (i like to see what'll happen)... I edited some of the configuration of ~/.ssh
[10:35] <heraclitis> And I removed that line. Is there a way to reset ~/.ssh to defaults?
[10:36] <moetunes> ssh won't interfere with a net connection
[10:36] <moetunes> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_network_interface_with_the_static_ip
[10:36] <heraclitis> after removing "auto" and the "dns domain" lines from the file, I loose connectivity from the default gateway.
[10:37] <moetunes> ^ says no auto wiyh static
[10:38] <moetunes> nameserver should be in /etc/resolv.conf instead of the interfaces file
[10:38] <heraclitis> oh okay. I'll change that.
[10:39] <heraclitis> When I go to change that file it says "Do not edit this file by hand -- Your changes will be overwritten"
[10:40] <heraclitis> it says nameserver is 127.0.0.1
[10:40] <moetunes> that's from networkmanager which you should make sure doesn't run if you are manually setting the network
[10:43] <heraclitis> so I should change nameserver to 8.8.8.8 if I want it to be google's dns server?
[10:45] <moetunes> yes if you stop networkmanager from running
[10:46] <moetunes> can't stress that enough
[10:46] <moetunes> can't stress that enough
[10:47] <heraclitis> How do I stop networkmanager from running on boot? I know I can stop it while the comp is running, but at boot it'll try to start automatically, won't it?
[10:50] <moetunes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Disabling_NetworkManager
[10:55] <heraclitis> I'm up and running. I deleted everything in the /etc/network/interfaces with the exception of "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback". Then I stopped networking by running "sudo service network-manager stop" then I ran "sudo start network-manager". Worked like a charm. I'm viewing google now from that computer. Thanks for everything, sir. I wish there were a way to repay you for your time and effort.
[10:56] <moetunes> you gave up doing the manual setup you had? glad it's working :)
[10:59] <heraclitis> I am still using manual ip address and dns configuration. But through network manager. I can't use auto dns or address leasing through my router. It's a pos from my ISP. I need to get a cisco. Lol. I'm glad it's working, too.
[11:00] <heraclitis> Now I can finally get off this Ubuntu 12.04 laptop. After using xubuntu, I can't go back. I'll find you when I log in over on my desktop.
[11:08] <heraclitis> Thanks again, moetunes!
[11:08] <moetunes> cheers ;)
[11:15] <heraclitis> moetunes: are you using pidgin? If so, I have a movie I'd like to give you in exchange for your help.
[11:20] <moetunes> heraclitis:  I use weechat and I saw the movie was ready to be transfered but I have plenty of movies thaks ;)
[11:20] <moetunes> s/thaks/thanks/
[11:21] <heraclitis> No thank you. If there's anything I help you with, let me know. I'd be glad to try.
[11:22]  * Yotson (scratching each others back)++ :D
[11:23] <moetunes> it's all good. this is what support channels are for :)
[12:40] <niuniomartinez> Hi. I have a problem with OpenGL.
[12:41] <niuniomartinez> It does work (Open Arena, SuperTux Kart, eDuke32) but Allegro has some problems.
[12:43] <niuniomartinez> They suggested (http://www.allegro.cc/forums/thread/61153) that it's a problem with drivers.
[12:44] <niuniomartinez> But I don't know which one I'm using...
[14:09] <Cristiano> Pessoal alguém ai poderia me dizer se o conky funciona bem no Xubuntu 12.10?
[14:32] <heraclitis> how to proxy all terminal commands like wget, hg, and apt?
[14:34] <koegs> heraclitis: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69983/proxy-settings-not-working
[14:34] <koegs> the rest depends on the programs
[16:23] <heraclitis> good voip service for pstn on xubuntu? not cisco?
[16:25] <holstein> heraclitis: "good" is a matter of opinion.. what are you looking for? and what have you tried? and what hasnt worked about what you have tried? i thought pstn was not a voip
[16:26] <heraclitis> I have only used Magicjack, but it only works in Windows. I would stay in Ubuntu all the time if my phone service could be transferred here as well. Magicjack uses voip to transfer to pstn. I would like something I could use with a current number, or a new one for little to no cost. Up time of more than 80 percent would be great, as well. secure would be excellent, but not a requirement.
[16:28] <holstein> heraclitis: you can port your # to google voice or a similar service and use it on the operating system or device you choose
[16:28] <heraclitis> I've been giving serious thought to nettalk... it can stand alone or be plugged into a computer. Similar to magicjack. I'm using the old usb dongle for magicjack.
[16:28] <heraclitis> Good point. I didn't think about google voice.
[16:28] <heraclitis> And that will allow me to make calls from my computer as though it's my old number, correct?
[16:29] <holstein> heraclitis: im not a google-fan-boy... i just like the service... there are a lot of options with google voice
[16:31] <holstein> chase follow... widgets that will go straight to voicemail and not show your #... dialing to and from other #'s... custom voicemail messages... plus, it works in the browser with linux
[16:31] <heraclitis> Lol. I reserve judgment with Google. And what's this chase follow? Is it in Synaptic?
[16:32] <holstein> heraclitis: if you want to program a few #'s for google voice to try... it'll try one.. then the next.. so on, til you either answer one of the phones, or it goes to voicemail
[16:33] <heraclitis> That's pretty neat.
[16:33] <heraclitis> I'm checking it out now.
[16:35] <holstein> heraclitis: its not a "linux" solution, but it works in linux... i would just read about it, and feel free to /join the #xubuntu-offtopic channel and i'll share more specifics
[17:13] <Ronalds_M> how to reset password in freenode
[17:14] <Ronalds_M> damn nickserv is saying that I'm not allowed to do that
[17:16] <holstein> Ronalds_M: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[17:34] <Ronalds_M> tnx Holstein
[17:34] <Ronalds_M> but in reality
[17:34] <Ronalds_M> freenode has turned that thing off
[17:34] <Ronalds_M> so you have to go to freenode channel
[17:34] <Ronalds_M> and ask staff to reset it
[17:50] <holstein> Ronalds_M: that thing?
[17:51] <holstein> Ronalds_M: you should alert the staff in the channel if the documentaion is not current
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[18:04] <heraclitis> how to allow virtualbox through ufw?
[18:04] <heraclitis> nat or bridged best?
[18:04] <holstein> heraclitis: i usually change settings so the vm gets an ip from the router
[18:04] <holstein> then, its the same as if it were a normal machine on the network
[18:05] <heraclitis> and would that be nat or bridged to config that way?
[18:06] <holstein> heraclitis: i dont think you can bridge, and share the IP of the main machine, and get a seperate IP to the VM
[18:06] <heraclitis> I have two network adaptors. (3 if necessary).
[18:06] <heraclitis> If that makes a difference.
[18:07] <holstein> heraclitis: i have only ever set up the VM so it gets an IP from the main gateway, just as a normal machine...
[18:07] <heraclitis> I have it set up that way. default gateway is the same, ip lease is the same, dns the same, but only lo (127.0.0.1) has any activity or connectivity.
[18:09] <holstein> heraclitis: you are getting an ip from theh gateway? can you ping the gateway? and/or other machines on your network?
[18:09] <holstein> did you "break" the dns settings trying to set a static ip?
[18:09] <heraclitis> no ping from gateway on VM, from host, yes. I'm communicating with you on it. And I set up my dns manually.
[18:10] <holstein> heraclitis: then its not set up properly
[18:10] <holstein> heraclitis: when you can ping the gateway, you'll be able to forward ports from the gateway to the VM
[18:10] <heraclitis> I'll keep working at it. lol
[18:54] <geoff__> Hi - this is my first post here - just observing
[19:01] <knome> !hi | geoff__
[19:01] <ubottu> geoff__: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!
[19:03] <geoff__> Hi knome and ubottu
[19:04] <knome> hello geoff. btw, if you are looking for a channel for random (non-support) chatter, we have #xubuntu-offtopic
[19:04] <geoff__> Thanks very much for that guys
[19:05] <knome> no problem
[19:05] <geoff__> I anticipate I will be normally logged on as BlinkinCat
[19:06] <knome> geoff__, sure, no problem :)
[19:06] <Bon-chan> can you guys suggest me a good system monitor? to place it at the workspace. i have the defaults in my window panel but want to try a diferent one
[19:07] <geoff__> How come NickServ states I am not logged on?
[19:09] <Pici> because you aren't.
[19:12] <geoff__> I don't understand that - if my words can be seen - I won't take up your time - perhaps I will go and observe off-topic
[19:12] <Ronalds_M> trying to boot Mac OS X in virtual machine give no bootable medium... anyone knows why that happens?
[19:13] <geoff__> Goodnight guys and thanks
[19:13] <Ronalds_M> (doing that for study purpoises only)
[19:14] <Ronalds_M> Geoff you are not logged on in freenode
[19:17] <geoff__> I really am sorry for messing that up - a steep learning curve for me - can I just exit the page without registering any damage?
[19:17] <knome> geoff__, yup.
[19:20] <geoff__> Thanks knome - now to get into the Guidelines - a good idea eh ?Goodnight all and thanks
[19:20] <knome> geoff__, good night½
[19:20] <knome> ...!
[21:39] <xubuntu369> I can not connect to the wireless network, can someone help me?
[21:43] <moetunes> xubuntu369:  there's a wiki dor that - tried it?
[21:43] <moetunes> !wifi
[21:43] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:46] <xubuntu369> moetunes: I have ubuntu 12.10, but installed Xubuntu 11.10 is for testing and disconnecting but on ubuntu connects normal!
[21:47] <xubuntu369> ubottu: thanks!!!
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[22:33] <Jayneil> While plugging in an external USB device, the eject option in thunar 1.6 does not seem to work properly.. switched to nautilus, it worked fine.. anyone else facing the same issue.. ?
[22:39] <ochosi> Jayneil: "does not seem to work properly" == ?
[22:43] <Jayneil> http://pastebin.com/jVY7UFNp
[22:53] <ochosi> Jayneil: strange, what version of thunar 1.6 are you using exactly and where did you install it from?
[23:24] <Troy^> Hey just installed xubuntu 12.10 and i also installed plank. I'm trying to figure out how i can get the plank dock to start at boot
[23:41] <holstein> Troy^: in the settings menu, you'll find startup applications there somewhere in session i believe... i gtg or id look and tell you exactly, but keep digging :)
[23:56] <Jayneil> 1.6.2  and I used xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.12
[23:58] <ochosi> Jayneil: then it'd be best if you could report a bug