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| dholbach | good morning | 08:30 |
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| czajkowski | ogra_: I hate to be apain but - http://ubuntuone.com/3Hmktiws4Z1qhaXs35B5PL | 11:45 |
| czajkowski | have rebooted it 4 times still stuck here any ideas? | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | czajkowski, have you checked the a11y settings ? | 11:46 |
| czajkowski | ogra_: I cant get the dash up | 11:46 |
| ogra_ | use the ceg | 11:46 |
| czajkowski | when I click on the big ubuntu bittn it just gives the icon text dash home so cant change any settings | 11:47 |
| czajkowski | ceg? | 11:47 |
| ogra_ | use the menu on the top right :) | 11:47 |
| ogra_ | the gear | 11:47 |
| czajkowski | all frozen :( | 11:47 |
| czajkowski | each reboot still leaves it on the page to enter in my wifi code | 11:47 |
| ogra_ | try to cancel the wlan dialog, could be that it grabs the focus | 11:47 |
| czajkowski | narp :( | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | you mean it doesnt take any input there either ? | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | (for the cancel button) | 11:48 |
| czajkowski | nope wont cancel it | 11:48 |
| czajkowski | nothing seems to want to close for me | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | that sounds like a completely frozen xserver | 11:49 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 11:50 |
| czajkowski | bit of a pita :( | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | when was that installed ? | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | recent images have a serial console running on the usb port | 11:50 |
| czajkowski | few months back | 11:50 |
| czajkowski | before xmas | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | hmm, not sure when i added that | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | you could try to plug it into a PC and check demsg for creation of something like /dev/ttyUSB0 | 11:52 |
| czajkowski | ok cheers will do when I get a lull in work | 11:52 |
| czajkowski | thanks ogra_ | 11:52 |
| czajkowski | need to fix it by fosdem times as dont wnat to lug laptop | 11:53 |
| ogra_ | with the working rotation and todays xorg fix its nearly usable | 11:53 |
| janimo | FYI the Tegra3 Technical Reference Manual seems to be available in the nvidia dev zone/tegra dev programme. I just noticed today, it may be old news | 12:08 |
| janimo | the realtek sound codec on the nexus7 has no public datasheet though | 12:09 |
| czajkowski | something hates me :( http://ubuntuone.com/0S97eFdCGOGC1Dk6mEeFlZ | 12:10 |
| ogra_ | janimo, well, there must be something in pm-suspend that makes it work, i wonder if some sub modules are unloaded and re-loaded ... | 12:24 |
| ogra_ | havent found the time to inspect what the scripts do | 12:25 |
| * ogra_ just uploaded onboard changes ... we now have proper docking in place | 12:25 | |
| ogra_ | and the power button will suspend by default | 12:25 |
| ogra_ | janimo, did you upgrade to latest xorg already ? it makes input work in portrait | 12:26 |
| janimo | ogra_, did not upgrade yet today, looking forward to test the new x stuff though | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | the "button 1 gets stuck" issue is still there | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | but portrait works the same way as landscape now | 12:49 |
| janimo | I have been looking at the sound/suspend issue yesterday, no progess though, just seeing the different register values, comparing to android and staring at the code | 12:49 |
| janimo | ogra_, the button stuck issue is our showstopper | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | well, i'm busy adding the preseeding stuff to the installer ... once i'm done with that i'll take the time to look into what pm-utils does | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | i think it unloads many of the snd_ modules | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | if we could mimic that behavior on first boot it might or might not work :) | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | eeek, MS buys dell ! | 12:52 |
| lilstevie | hm | 12:58 |
| lilstevie | ogra_: nasty | 12:58 |
| RaYmAn | isn't it only rumors still? And probably only a relatively small part | 12:58 |
| ogra_ | i just read news that it was a done deal | 12:59 |
| RaYmAn | got a link? | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | only german | 12:59 |
| Rjs | I noticed some touchscreen&grab-related patches in the xorg-devel list a few days ago, I wonder if they would be enough to fix the "button gets stuck" issue? (I don't know enough of the details to know...) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg.devel/34653 | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | RaYmAn, happy google translate :P http://www.golem.de/news/windows-lizenzen-microsoft-will-milliardenanteil-an-dell-kaufen-1301-97090.html | 13:01 |
| marvin24 | " ... licenses for future tablets" ? | 13:04 |
| marvin24 | I though Dell announces to quit tablet and smartphone business | 13:05 |
| marvin24 | *thought | 13:05 |
| lilstevie | marvin24: android tablet | 13:05 |
| marvin24 | ah, we failed in a booming market - let's try some dead end one? | 13:05 |
| marvin24 | janimo: I started to package a 3.8 kernel for tegras | 13:06 |
| marvin24 | how do I add modules to the ABI ? | 13:06 |
| janimo | ogra_, our sound is not modular, so unlikely it is due to module reloading | 13:06 |
| janimo | marvin24, adding modules? Does it error on build? | 13:07 |
| marvin24 | (sorry for the dumb question) | 13:07 |
| marvin24 | janimo: yes, | 13:07 |
| marvin24 | it compares module file from old abi | 13:07 |
| marvin24 | and fails, because new abi has different modules | 13:07 |
| janimo | marvin24, you should just add an ignore.modules or modules.ignore (I always forget) file | 13:07 |
| janimo | let me check | 13:07 |
| marvin24 | I think this is defined already, but I'll also check again | 13:08 |
| janimo | I wish there was a global 'Never check ABI GTFO' option on kernel builds | 13:08 |
| marvin24 | there is a ignore.abi | 13:08 |
| janimo | and always just bump ABI by default, as it is the case almost always in my experience | 13:08 |
| janimo | touch abi/3.5.0-17.27/armhf/ignore.module | 13:09 |
| janimo | but use the actual current ABI dir | 13:09 |
| marvin24 | janimo: ok, thanks - will give it a try | 13:09 |
| janimo | I am here if you have further questions and glad you work on this. It would be great to have a 3.8 tegra kernel in the archives | 13:10 |
| janimo | and switch ac100 to it | 13:10 |
| marvin24 | well, it should run on any tegra2 or tegra3 device | 13:10 |
| marvin24 | if you tell u-boot the correct device tree | 13:10 |
| janimo | right, but test on ac100 first as we have the device and the developer :) | 13:10 |
| marvin24 | sure ;-) | 13:10 |
| marvin24 | janimo: btw, is it possible to build a kernel package on launchpad - I read something about a 4 hours limit ... | 13:11 |
| janimo | marvin24, it should be possible but I don't know if there are public armhf builders | 13:11 |
| janimo | I know I used to test on an internal PPA | 13:12 |
| janimo | ogra_, ^ ? | 13:12 |
| marvin24 | well, I already build some packages for arm ... | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | czajkowski, ^^^ | 13:12 |
| marvin24 | he he, that's done already | 13:12 |
| janimo | ah ok then. I did not know about time limit, although 4 hours usually was enough for panda and ac100 kernels AFAIK | 13:12 |
| marvin24 | https://launchpad.net/~ac100/+archive/ppa | 13:12 |
| czajkowski | ogra_: you pinged | 13:13 |
| marvin24 | I just don't want to fall from grace | 13:13 |
| janimo | nice. | 13:13 |
| marvin24 | czajkowski: all ok | 13:13 |
| czajkowski | grand | 13:13 |
| marvin24 | czajkowski: is it ok to build a kernel package on armhf | 13:14 |
| janimo | marvin24, neh just try and if there's a limit we should bump it up instead of penalizing the uploader | 13:14 |
| janimo | there may be limits so the ppa is not hogged but a kernel build is a desirable use-case | 13:14 |
| marvin24 | I was told not to upload package which run more than 4 hours, that's why I ask | 13:14 |
| czajkowski | marvin24: it's not on my list of not to enable - but as long as it's not more than 10 builds and greater than 4 hours | 13:14 |
| janimo | marvin24, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ac100/3.1.10-6.10/+build/3962084 | 13:15 |
| janimo | slightly over 2 hours | 13:15 |
| czajkowski | https://dev.launchpad.net/CommunityARMBuilds | 13:15 |
| marvin24 | janimo: that's not a complete kernel I think | 13:15 |
| janimo | you mean not completely configured ubuntu kernel? | 13:16 |
| marvin24 | yes, maybe many modules missing | 13:16 |
| janimo | right, ac100 does not have full ubuntu configs | 13:16 |
| marvin24 | it takes one hour on my dual core 2.6 GHz machine | 13:16 |
| marvin24 | I just used the omap config ... | 13:16 |
| janimo | maybe a ti-omap4 build is more relevant | 13:16 |
| marvin24 | and also enabled PCI (which omap doesn't have as it seems) | 13:17 |
| janimo | czajkowski, does that mean the ARM builds are not automatic based on a dput but need to be manually requested for each upload? | 13:17 |
| * marvin24 still doesn't get why we need to enable all possible modules instead of all useful ones | 13:18 | |
| janimo | https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa/+build/4046784 | 13:18 |
| janimo | yes over 4h | 13:18 |
| janimo | the PPA builder you linked to currently builds an origen kernel and it is past the 3 h mark. So building kernels should be doable there | 13:19 |
| marvin24 | janimo: AFAIK, the ppa needs to be enabled one time | 13:19 |
| janimo | marvin24, if a module is really unlikely to get used on the ac100 feel free to disable | 13:20 |
| marvin24 | I meant in general | 13:20 |
| janimo | we started with minimal but a lot of USB and network options are required for various people's corner cases | 13:20 |
| marvin24 | e.g. you don't need all the regulators and mfd which are specific for each soc | 13:20 |
| janimo | and since it is a module it does not affect those who do not used them, just build time | 13:20 |
| janimo | right, if some options do not make sense they should not be there indeed | 13:21 |
| janimo | hw support for impossible setups | 13:21 |
| * marvin24 didn't count how many kWh he wasted already for building useless modules where the packaging failed in the end | 13:23 | |
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| xnox | ogra_: do we have serial number patters or device models ids for nexus-ses to destinguish 8/16/3g models? | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | xnox, yeah, ask vanhoof or mfisch, i think they figured them out for the zenity installer | 15:27 |
| xnox | ogra_: ok. I'll just poke the source then ;-) | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | you can request info via fastboot | 15:27 |
| mfisch | xnox: vanhoof did all that magic, but I think he used the partition info | 15:28 |
| xnox | mfisch: sounds about right. | 15:29 |
| xnox | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1563337/ | 15:29 |
| xnox | ogra_: mfisch: fastboot getvar all output for my nexus7 | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | right, just grab the userdata partition and de-hex the size | 15:30 |
| mfisch | yep | 15:31 |
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| ptl | hello :) | 17:07 |
| Wing_Z | Hi all | 18:08 |
| Wing_Z | eny body could please lend me a hand obout pinmuxing on omap4? | 18:08 |
| thoomaas | hello | 19:01 |
| vhadil | hello | 19:02 |
| thoomaas | i have problem with playing mp3 in raspbian | 19:02 |
| thoomaas | omxplayer work but nothing else | 19:03 |
| XorA | raspbian is not ubuntu | 19:03 |
| thoomaas | i know but no body answer to me in another rooms | 19:04 |
| XorA | I dont know the answer, dont have a Pi | 19:04 |
| Noskcaj | are there install instructions for ubuntu on nexus somewhere? | 19:09 |
| Tassadar | Noskcaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation | 19:10 |
| Noskcaj | thanks | 19:10 |
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