| RAOF | chrisccoulson: Why does Thunderbird make it so difficult to send plain-text email? | 00:15 |
|---|---|---|
| TheMuso | RAOF: How so? I've never had a problem sending plain text email... | 00:22 |
| TheMuso | Mind you I always set things up such that I view plain text emails, and make sure my replies are sent as plain text only. | 00:22 |
| desrt | RAOF: you just have to find the right places to turn it off | 00:24 |
| desrt | RAOF: i agree -- it's pretty damn obnoxious | 00:24 |
| desrt | RAOF: consider, though, that mozilla is very very much about html, as a company | 00:24 |
| desrt | and it makes a bit of sense | 00:24 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 00:24 |
| micahg | RAOF: it's one preference | 00:29 |
| RAOF | micahg: Where? | 00:30 |
| micahg | Edit -> preferences -> composition -> Send OPtions | 00:30 |
| RAOF | And add * to Plain Text Domains? | 00:31 |
| micahg | hrm, that's not what I thought it was | 00:32 |
| RAOF | Yeah, that's where I looked first, but it doesn't have a “Just send plain text, damnit” option. | 00:32 |
| desrt | i think it's a per-account setting or something | 00:33 |
| desrt | i remember it _not_ being easy to find | 00:33 |
| desrt | ya... under account settings for each account | 00:34 |
| desrt | there is a checkbox in "Composition and addressing" | 00:34 |
| RAOF | Ah, yes. There we go. | 00:34 |
| RAOF | Good work on that dialog being > 768 pixels high, by the way. | 00:34 |
| lifeless | WIN | 00:35 |
| TheMuso | HTML in email really shoudl have been banned years ago. | 00:38 |
| TheMuso | Its a bitch when I get emails that don't have a plain text equivalent. | 00:39 |
| TheMuso | Whoops, meant pain, a little milder... | 00:39 |
| desrt | heh | 00:39 |
| desrt | i'm infuriated enough when i get html-only email that i can't even imagine... | 00:40 |
| lifeless | TheMuso: bitch is fine :> | 00:45 |
| TheMuso | heh ok. | 00:49 |
| lifeless | TheMuso: if it was aimed at someone, it definitely wouldn't be | 00:50 |
| lifeless | TheMuso: but its very mild on the swearometer, and you are normally -so- polite ... :) | 00:50 |
| desrt | lifeless: i find people's swearometers are calibrated differently according to country | 00:51 |
| lifeless | desrt: yeah | 00:53 |
| RAOF | Man, those fglrx-updates/nvidia | 01:39 |
| RAOF | Man, those fglrx-updates/nvidia-updates SRUs are a gnarly mass of unknown status. | 01:40 |
| duflu | RAOF: Unknown status? | 01:40 |
| RAOF | duflu: It's hard to determine what the status of the various pieces are. Have the updates been verified? Which packages are verified? What about Godot? | 01:41 |
| duflu | RAOF: So the usual... just trust us... this new version is better :) | 01:41 |
| duflu | Or are they being uploaded without any -proposed testing? | 01:42 |
| RAOF | Oh, they're in -proposed now. | 01:43 |
| RAOF | I'm just trying to work out whether they should be move from -proposed to -updates. | 01:43 |
| duflu | RAOF: Mind-reading of graphics vendors is in your job description, no? | 01:44 |
| RAOF | Oh, thsi is a problem partially of my own making. The *bugs* are a gnarly mass of confusion. | 01:45 |
| RAOF | Ok. So the only thing preventing fglrx-updates from hitting precise-proposed is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer-updates/+bug/1039397 not being verified. | 01:47 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1039397 in fglrx-installer-updates (Ubuntu) "[Dell Precision M6700] HDMI audio fails, HDMI/Displayport output has blank frame" [Medium,Incomplete] | 01:47 |
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| bryce | RAOF, yeah it's quite a confusing mess. Think the verification requirements are being overly strict? | 02:20 |
| RAOF | bryce: Not really. Two of the bugs linked in the SRU are not actually bugs, so can't be verified. That's my fault for letting the package into proposed. | 02:22 |
| bryce | part of the problem is the installer for the proprietary drivers involves a bit of playing russian roulette | 02:22 |
| pitti | Good morning | 05:29 |
| highvoltage | pitteah | 06:36 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:45 |
| jibel | good morning | 08:00 |
| didrocks | salut jibel! | 08:02 |
| pitti | hey didrocks, how are you? | 08:05 |
| didrocks | pitti: still tired, but going in the right direction :) | 08:06 |
| didrocks | yourself? | 08:06 |
| pitti | I'm quite fine, thanks; making some nice progress on mocking hardware | 08:06 |
| didrocks | sweet! | 08:06 |
| pitti | gphoto2 --auto-detect already works, now working on actually mocking the data as well | 08:06 |
| didrocks | excellent :) | 08:07 |
| jibel | hey didrocks | 08:07 |
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| seb128 | hey desktopers | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gconf/3.2.5-0ubuntu6 ... did you just forget to push or did you forgot to use the vcs? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, if that's the second one don't bother, I can just merge it back there from the archive version | 10:07 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, forgot VCS; I'll commit it now, for teaching myself :) | 10:07 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke ;-) | 10:07 |
| pitti | seb128: done, sorry | 10:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry, thanks! | 10:09 |
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| === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark | ||
| ogra_ | seb128, hmm, i have a slight problem with gsettings on the nexus ... we ship http://paste.ubuntu.com/1562339/ ... and in dconf-editor i can see "suspend" being the setting thats used, nontheless it gives me the interactive dialog *until* i once switch the setting in dconf-editor manually once | 11:26 |
| ogra_ | any idea what that could be ? | 11:26 |
| seb128 | ogra_, do you run glib-compile-schemas on rootfs/usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/ubuntu-defaults-nexus7-powerbtn.override to get gschemas.compiled updated? | 11:29 |
| seb128 | ogra_, the glib triggers take care of that on the system when installing package, not sure that happens for your rootfs | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | i thought dh does that automatically | 11:29 |
| ogra_ | oh, rootfs is only a package path | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | the binary package puts it in / | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | (some weird setup of the ubuntu-defaults stuff) | 11:30 |
| seb128 | ogra_, gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power button-power | 11:30 |
| ogra_ | well, i changed it now, let me reset it first | 11:31 |
| seb128 | what does that give when it's behaving buggy? | 11:31 |
| seb128 | k | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | well, dconf-editor showed the right value | 11:31 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, wrt. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-gnome-plans-review I wasn't sure whether the "update .." ones were DONE already, as we don't yet have their final versions | 11:31 |
| ogra_ | ("suspend") | 11:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, we are on the unstable serie and will track it through version, I think it's good enough for the workitems, but feel free to change it back if they are useful for tracking for you | 11:32 |
| pitti | seb128: so you think they are enough for "get to current GNOME 3.7.x version", and the rest will just be part of the normal update cycle? | 11:32 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 11:32 |
| pitti | seb128: I'm on d-devel-list, so through that I should get a reminder for new devel releases | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | seb128, "set to default" in dconf-editor gets me "suspend" back in the value field and makes the entry non-bold ... though pressing the power button now gets me the dialog again | 11:33 |
| pitti | seb128: if you are also watching, please feel free to prod me if I forget | 11:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, well, I'm watching http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop.html in any case ;-) | 11:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, will do | 11:33 |
| * pitti te donne une accolade | 11:33 | |
| * seb128 hugs pitti back | 11:33 | |
| seb128 | ogra_, if the gsettings command return the right value then there is probably a bug in gnome-session... | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | ogra@nexus7:~$ gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power button-power | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | 'interactive' | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | ogra@nexus7:~$ | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | aha | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | funny, why does dconf show the other value | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | could it be that i miss any quoting in the .override file ? | 11:35 |
| pitti | seb128: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-gnome-fallback even relevant for this cycle still? | 11:36 |
| pitti | seb128: i. e. do we want to move the automounting code in this cycle to be prepared, or move it to free resources for nexus 7 and friends? | 11:37 |
| seb128 | ogra_, dconf-editor is hackish, gsettings lacks the api it needs so it does guess work by parsing schemas itself | 11:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes that spec is still revelant, and it would be good to clean/move the automount code, that's not the highest item on the list though | 11:38 |
| seb128 | ogra_, try ='suspend' yes (with the '') | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | no change | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | even tried double quotes | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | it is a list value, i wonder if it needs special treatment due to that | 11:42 |
| ogra_ | hmm, no it says string | 11:44 |
| tkamppeter | seb128, there is an upstream fix for bug 1101213, can you apply it? Thanks. | 11:49 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1101213 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "G-c-c printing doesn't allow you to select a hp printer" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101213 | 11:49 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, sure, thanks for looking to it! | 11:49 |
| didrocks | Laney: btw, the 2nd blog post should answer to some of your question about how to interact with them | 11:52 |
| didrocks | them beeing the PS packages | 11:52 |
| didrocks | Laney: if you have any question, I think we should file a FAQ in the end | 11:52 |
| didrocks | (that I'll paste to a wiki page) | 11:52 |
| Laney | didrocks: awesome, will read! | 11:53 |
| Laney | I think I want a simple document that just says | 11:55 |
| Laney | - bzr branch <whatever> | 11:55 |
| Laney | - hack hack hack | 11:55 |
| Laney | - bzr commit --fixes=lp:foo; bzr push lp:~/...; bzr lp-propose ... | 11:55 |
| didrocks | Laney: can you add that to the desktop pad? | 11:55 |
| Laney | - set commit message on MP | 11:55 |
| didrocks | Laney: I'll grab the questions for doing the FAQ | 11:55 |
| Laney | ok I'll add my questions there | 11:56 |
| didrocks | thanks :) | 11:56 |
| Laney | yubikeyyyyyyyyyy | 11:56 |
| didrocks | Laney: part 3 will be really on the daily release process, what's the bots are doing and so on | 11:56 |
| ogra_ | seb128, argh ... | 11:59 |
| seb128 | ogra_, ? | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | so the file needs to end in .gschema.override, not in .override | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | :P | 11:59 |
| * ogra_ slaps forehead | 11:59 | |
| seb128 | lol | 11:59 |
| seb128 | sure | 11:59 |
| seb128 | sorry I didn't pay attention to the filename | 11:59 |
| Laney | didrocks: what happened here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/128756347/indicator-power_12.10.6daily13.01.17-0ubuntu1_12.10.6daily13.01.18-0ubuntu1.diff.gz - no explanation of the changes in the changelog? | 12:02 |
| didrocks | Laney: because nobody attached a bug to their branch, I'm keep telling them to do that, please join the effort :) | 12:03 |
| Laney | interesting | 12:03 |
| xnox | Laney: i guess lp:indicator-power has commit messages. | 12:03 |
| Laney | I'm sure it does | 12:03 |
| didrocks | right, but commit messages can be noisy and not really explanatory | 12:04 |
| didrocks | that's why I decided to limit at bug reports, which is what we generally list for any releases | 12:04 |
| Laney | does it use the commit message you can set on MPs if they are set? | 12:04 |
| seb128 | you also don't want an hundred commit messages listed in debian/changelog if there is an hundred commits | 12:04 |
| xnox | "g_type_init() is deprecated as of glib 2.35.4, so bump our glib minimum requirement and remove the g_type_init() call." | 12:04 |
| xnox | is the commit message and whould be useful. | 12:04 |
| didrocks | xnox: in that case, yeah, but not the general rule | 12:04 |
| Laney | I did a MP for something the other day and got told to set a commit message there | 12:05 |
| seb128 | there is also the changelog spam effect | 12:05 |
| xnox | didrocks: what about using first line only? (git-dch style) | 12:05 |
| Laney | should those be generally useful? | 12:05 |
| xnox | * [-r161] g_type_init() is deprecated as of glib 2.35.4, so bump our glib minimum requirement and ... | 12:05 |
| didrocks | xnox: will cut in the middle a commit message, even worse | 12:05 |
| didrocks | xnox: they don't use that the "short/long summary" | 12:05 |
| didrocks | s/that// | 12:05 |
| xnox | clearly we should switch to git then | 12:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, those are a requirement for the merger bot, not sure why anymore, something to do with the readability of the vcs logs I think | 12:05 |
| * xnox hides | 12:05 | |
| didrocks | Laney: and it's only on the unity stack, different teams are using different flows, other are just taking the description then | 12:06 |
| Laney | seb128: Perhaps. I've never known what they are for really but it could be useful in this case | 12:06 |
| didrocks | (see part 2 ;)) | 12:06 |
| didrocks | and I think this doesn't solve the changelog spam | 12:06 |
| didrocks | I think important changes needs to have a bug attached | 12:07 |
| didrocks | or being just specified manually in debian/changelog as part of the merge | 12:07 |
| didrocks | this is more an educational thing than anything else | 12:07 |
| didrocks | larsu: btw, can you keep that in mind when reviewing/doing changes please? ^ | 12:07 |
| larsu | didrocks, is a --fixes lpXXXX on the commit enough? | 12:09 |
| larsu | or associating the MR with the bug? | 12:09 |
| didrocks | larsu: either the one, or the other, or even just mentionning "this fixes bug #XXXX" any commit message of the changes | 12:09 |
| didrocks | s/the one/this/ | 12:09 |
| didrocks | I'm quite flexible to spot that :) | 12:10 |
| didrocks | you don't want to see the regexp :p | 12:10 |
| larsu | haha | 12:10 |
| larsu | okay :) | 12:10 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 12:11 |
| Laney | hmmmmm | 12:11 |
| larsu | didrocks, np, I actually prefer having a bug reference myself | 12:11 |
| larsu | I just forget sometimes | 12:11 |
| didrocks | and you get the praise then! | 12:11 |
| didrocks | with your name :) | 12:11 |
| didrocks | in the changelog :p | 12:12 |
| Laney | does it already do one changelog entry per MP? | 12:12 |
| didrocks | one changelog entry per bug | 12:12 |
| didrocks | as you would find in any NEWS file | 12:12 |
| Laney | ack | 12:13 |
| Laney | so it feels a bit heavy to make people file bugs when they can just JFDI a fix | 12:13 |
| didrocks | Laney: well, if they don't want to file bugs, they can themselve add it to debian/changelog as part of the MP | 12:14 |
| didrocks | if they feel it's important enough to get communicated | 12:14 |
| Laney | ah, that is allowed eh | 12:14 |
| didrocks | yep :) | 12:14 |
| Laney | we get to my questions on the pad now | 12:14 |
| Laney | so let's leave it here :P | 12:14 |
| didrocks | yep :) | 12:14 |
| didrocks | and if they already referenced the bug in the changelog | 12:14 |
| didrocks | there is no duplication | 12:15 |
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| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| BigWhale | What rolling release?! Nooooo.... :> | 12:53 |
| BigWhale | This means less release parties :( | 12:53 |
| ogra_ | just make them bug fixing parties then | 12:54 |
| BigWhale | ogra_, I have those on a weekly basis! ;) | 12:55 |
| czajkowski | lol | 13:00 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 13:19 |
| davmor2 | BigWhale: What are you on about it means that you have to party everyday for the newly released stuff | 13:20 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, I'm good, how are you? | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks | 13:24 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, just woke up? ;-) | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i wish :) | 13:24 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i've got this for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/1562859/ ;) | 13:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, will you be unhappy if I discard it? | 13:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I just noticed this morning, looking at version, that cairo 1.12.10 is out for a week and it includes that fix (with a stack of other ones) | 13:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I was going to just do the update | 13:26 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh, that's ok then :) | 13:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you can do the update if you are looking for launchpad karmas though ;-) | 13:26 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, i don't mind doing that | 13:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, great, thanks | 13:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, http://www.cairographics.org/releases/cairo-1.12.10.tar.xz | 13:28 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 13:29 |
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| chrisccoulson | g_variant_parse doesn't return a floating reference, does it? | 13:51 |
| larsu | chrisccoulson, according to gvariant-parser.c, it does | 13:59 |
| larsu | docs could be a little more clear there | 13:59 |
| === jhernandez|lunch is now known as jhernandez | ||
| larsu | but I think close to everything that gives you a variant gives you a floating ref | 14:00 |
| larsu | desrt, right? | 14:00 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| czajkowski | Sweetshark: you know most OSS are on G+ right ;) | 14:15 |
| mlankhorst | it's like a glossy magazine for geeks | 14:17 |
| czajkowski | so now I get content on there, twitter, and my inbox, 3-4 times o the same story :) fun | 14:17 |
| * czajkowski bounces her nexus 7 off a wall | 14:17 | |
| mlankhorst | testing the gravity sensor? :P | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | my on screen keyboard has vanished | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | and I've tried a lot of things now to make it come back | 14:19 |
| czajkowski | nothing works and I want it for fosdem | 14:19 |
| mlankhorst | can you attach usb? | 14:19 |
| czajkowski | mlankhorst: yup | 14:21 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, is it activated in system settings, universal access, input tab? | 14:21 |
| czajkowski | http://ubuntuone.com/0S97eFdCGOGC1Dk6mEeFlZ | 14:22 |
| mlankhorst | that's probably not going to work | 14:23 |
| czajkowski | indeed | 14:23 |
| czajkowski | it's not | 14:23 |
| mitya57 | that's not Universal Access panel, that's Keyboard panel | 14:24 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, that's not what I asked | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | http://ubuntuone.com/0qF9v89DMgQG7jEUGyxzOD | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | there? | 14:24 |
| seb128 | yeah | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | seb128: sorry that was a paste from earlier on | 14:24 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, do you have a keyboard or a ssh access to type commands? | 14:24 |
| czajkowski | cant get up the keyboard at all | 14:24 |
| seb128 | can you ssh to it or plug an usb keyboard for debugging? | 14:25 |
| czajkowski | it's plugged in now. | 14:25 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, can you see if onboard is running (ps ax | grep onboard) | 14:26 |
| Sweetshark | czajkowski: echo chambers are fun ;) | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | not really :) | 14:32 |
| czajkowski | seb128: thank you | 14:32 |
| Sweetshark | czajkowski: but one can test on G+, what works and then carry that to the outside world ... | 14:33 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, yw, good luck | 14:33 |
| bcurtiswx | I have a weird issue with online accounts. It says I have an AIM account that requires authorization once I start empathy, but online accounts has no record of this AIM account. I'm searching for a bad config file somewhere, but not exactly sure where to look. Any ideas? | 14:34 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, run empathy-accounts | 14:34 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, I guess it's an account you configured in empathy itself by then, out of the integrated online accounts | 14:35 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, looks to be the case. thx | 14:35 |
| seb128 | yw ;-) | 14:35 |
| bcurtiswx | if i wanted to issue a command 30 seconds after I lock the screen and have it quit after i return. what would I use ? | 14:40 |
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| chrisccoulson | larsu, doesn't http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/glib/gvariant-parser.c#n2371 make sure that the GVariant returned is not floating? | 14:58 |
| larsu | chrisccoulson, oh, nice catch. I must have read over that, sorry :) | 14:59 |
| chrisccoulson | larsu, i think ted must have assumed it returned a floating reference too | 15:00 |
| chrisccoulson | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dbusmenu-team/libdbusmenu/trunk.13.04/view/head:/libdbusmenu-glib/server.c#L1061 | 15:00 |
| chrisccoulson | and http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dbusmenu-team/libdbusmenu/trunk.13.04/view/head:/libdbusmenu-glib/menuitem.c#L1659 | 15:00 |
| chrisccoulson | in fact, everywhere it uses g_variant_parse ;) | 15:00 |
| desrt | larsu: no | 15:01 |
| desrt | larsu: only constructors | 15:01 |
| larsu | chrisccoulson, yes :( | 15:01 |
| larsu | desrt, thanks | 15:01 |
| desrt | larsu: and you have to pretend that g_variant_builder_end() is called g_variant_new_from_builder() :) | 15:01 |
| larsu | haha | 15:02 |
| chrisccoulson | fantastic :) | 15:02 |
| chrisccoulson | does anyone have some rope i could borrow for a few moments? | 15:02 |
| larsu | desrt, another question: g_main_context_pending seems to return FALSE if there are no immediate sources to be dispatched. Is there a function to find out whether there are *any* sources? | 15:03 |
| bcurtiswx | dental floss OK ? | 15:03 |
| desrt | larsu: you have to poll... | 15:03 |
| larsu | :-/ | 15:03 |
| desrt | so like prepare/query/poll/check | 15:03 |
| larsu | this makes writing a loop that stops when no events are attached very hard | 15:03 |
| desrt | heh | 15:04 |
| * larsu could use that for his tests | 15:04 | |
| desrt | yup :) | 15:04 |
| larsu | desrt, care to add a function that does this? | 15:04 |
| desrt | we talked about adding this to gmaincontext | 15:04 |
| desrt | but you don't want it | 15:04 |
| larsu | why? | 15:04 |
| desrt | because 'pending' is a very difficult term | 15:04 |
| desrt | is a timeout that will fire in 1 second from now pending? | 15:04 |
| larsu | well, I just spend 20 minutes finding out "pending" is not what I thought it meant | 15:04 |
| larsu | YES. | 15:05 |
| desrt | okay | 15:05 |
| desrt | how about a pending async result that will fire 1 second from now? | 15:05 |
| larsu | yes | 15:05 |
| desrt | that's the problem | 15:05 |
| larsu | because you don't know about these? | 15:05 |
| desrt | async results don't become GSources until they are (immediately) ready to dispatch | 15:05 |
| larsu | right | 15:05 |
| desrt | so that made us think maybe we should have like g_main_context_hold() as a sort of special "don't exit now!" ref | 15:06 |
| desrt | then the whole thing just started feeling too much like GApplication | 15:06 |
| larsu | hm, and that's a bad thing? | 15:07 |
| desrt | meh | 15:07 |
| desrt | it would require changes everywhere | 15:07 |
| desrt | everyone who may at some point add an idle would have to call this hold() | 15:07 |
| desrt | i guess GTask and GSimpleAsyncResult could be updated to do that... | 15:08 |
| desrt | but this is starting to get out of hand, wouldn't you agree? | 15:08 |
| desrt | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690126 is the bug btw | 15:08 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 690126 in gdbus "Do not quit mainloop while there are pending GSources" [Normal,Assigned] | 15:08 |
| larsu | desrt, agreed. It seemed like an easy thing at first :) | 15:15 |
| desrt | larsu: did you do a lesson yet? :) | 15:24 |
| larsu | desrt, no :( | 15:24 |
| desrt | dude | 15:24 |
| desrt | you're going to be in toronto in two weeks and unable to speak the local language | 15:25 |
| larsu | there's just so much other stuff I need to take care of | 15:25 |
| desrt | lessons are quick :p | 15:25 |
| larsu | I do have the tab open, does that count? | 15:25 |
| larsu | for something? | 15:25 |
| desrt | hahahah | 15:26 |
| desrt | you TODO list by tab, hm? | 15:26 |
| larsu | not usually, only in this case | 15:26 |
| larsu | because I actually meant to do it :) | 15:26 |
| desrt | whenever i see ken he always says "haven't heard from lars yet..." | 15:27 |
| larsu | he already know me? | 15:28 |
| larsu | *knows | 15:28 |
| desrt | he knows you will be sending lessons soon :) | 15:28 |
| larsu | heh | 15:28 |
| didrocks | grrr, on 3G | 16:11 |
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| dobey | seb128: can i get you or someone to look at my patch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/859600 please? | 17:07 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 859600 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Precise) "Please convert gnome-keyring to multiarch" [High,In progress] | 17:07 |
| seb128 | dobey, will have a look | 17:16 |
| dobey | seb128: thanks | 17:21 |
| xnox | dobey: i think last time around this was attempted, the use case was to have the library co-installed and the problem was that the /etc/ conffile encodes multiarch path. | 17:27 |
| xnox | which means that conf file is no longer the same across all architectures and thus failing to co-install. | 17:27 |
| xnox | has this been addressed? | 17:27 |
| * xnox can't figure that bit out just by looking at the patch. | 17:28 | |
| * xnox didn't build both amd64/i386 & try to co-install them yet. | 17:28 | |
| dobey | xnox: which conf file? | 17:30 |
| xnox | let me dig into it. 1sec. | 17:31 |
| dobey | xnox: i have them co-installed on my machine from my ppa right now. | 17:31 |
| xnox | awesome =) | 17:31 |
| dobey | xnox: the p11kit conf file only has the module name in it | 17:31 |
| xnox | hmm.. | 17:31 |
| dobey | /etc/pkcs11/modules/gnome-keyring.module that file, that is | 17:32 |
| xnox | dobey: why is the patch against oneiric and not raring?! | 17:40 |
| dobey | xnox: eh? | 17:41 |
| dobey | +gnome-keyring (3.6.2-0ubuntu2) raring; urgency=low | 17:41 |
| xnox | dobey: i downloaded not your patch... | 17:41 |
| dobey | xnox: you're not looking at *my* patch :) | 17:41 |
| xnox | i was looking at your patch, but my clipboard had the other url in it... | 17:42 |
| dobey | oh | 17:42 |
| xnox | =) all is fine now. | 17:42 |
| dobey | thanks | 17:43 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, still working on that cairo update? | 18:17 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, if you do, please include http://cgit.freedesktop.org/cairo/commit/?id=fa4f48cccb6c7f4e1afb2ff4b98b906b7d8d4afc , it fixes a regression from the new version | 18:18 |
| seb128 | c.f bug #1101316 | 18:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1101316 in cairo (Ubuntu) "Evince switches to wrong page while scrolling in continuous mode" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1101316 | 18:18 |
| LIDH | Hello, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem? | 18:36 |
| dobey | LIDH: #ubuntu is the general help channel | 18:43 |
| LIDH | ok | 18:43 |
| LIDH | thank you but i've already post there, and no one helped me :s | 18:43 |
| dobey | well be patient | 18:45 |
| dobey | if you're impatient, nobody will want to help you :) | 18:46 |
| sarnold | LIDH: check 'dmesg' output for information, you might get lucky | 18:47 |
| robru | xnox, thanks for fixing bug 1099589 ;-) | 19:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1099589 in devscripts (Ubuntu) "wrap-and-sort crashed with TypeError in save(): must be str, not bytes" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099589 | 19:21 |
| xnox | robru: np =) | 19:21 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128. sorry, was away for dinner and exercise | 20:13 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll include that change too | 20:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no worry, thanks ;-) | 20:14 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I hope for you it's "exercise and dinner", not good to go to cycle after eating ;-) | 20:15 |
| robru | mterry, if you get a sec I'd like to ask you some questions about that mp you sent me | 21:00 |
| mterry | robru, the deja-dup one? sure | 21:00 |
| robru | mterry, yeah, so, what steps should I take to ensure that your change is working | 21:00 |
| robru | ? | 21:00 |
| mterry | robru, well make check is always good, but I only fixed the existing tests to work with the code change, I didn't add any new tests for it, because I didn't know how to fake partitions without root access | 21:04 |
| mterry | robru, so I personally verified it manually. The trick is to do a backup from a partition that is different than the partition /tmp is on | 21:04 |
| mterry | robru, then run "G_MESSAGES_DEBUG=all deja-dup --backup" and notice the arguments we pass to duplicity. There should be a --tempdir with an appropriate (same partition as source files) directory | 21:05 |
| robru | mterry, yeah, that's what i meant. so my home directory is different than tmp | 21:05 |
| mterry | robru, so deja-dup should pass ~/.cache/deja-dup/tmp as tempdir to duplicity | 21:05 |
| robru | mterry, oh, btw, I started using deja-dup for my actual, real $HOME backups. Will that command interfere with the backups I have going? | 21:06 |
| robru | should i make a dummy user for this? ;-) | 21:06 |
| mterry | robru, it will use your normal settings to make a backup yeah. But it won't (shouldn't) interfere with them, just start a new backup | 21:08 |
| robru | mterry, so it'll try to backup all 500GBs then? maybe I will make a dummy user ;-) | 21:08 |
| mterry | robru, you also might want to double confirm that ~/.cache/deja-dup/tmp is empty after the run | 21:08 |
| mterry | robru, well, it will do an incremental or whatever, but if you haven't made a first backup yet, then yah. dummy or change your backup settings momentarily | 21:09 |
| robru | mterry, ok, great. I'll try it out shortly. thanks | 21:09 |
| robru | mterry, I'm getting a weird xmllint error on 'make check' | 21:49 |
| mterry | xmllint? | 21:49 |
| mterry | paste me | 21:50 |
| robru | mterry, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1564351/ does this mean anything to you? | 21:50 |
| robru | probably a missing dep or something simple | 21:50 |
| mterry | robru, oh, I bet the gnome-docs automake stuff is missing a dep on the 'all' target for the 'check' target | 21:50 |
| robru | but I'm not sure | 21:50 |
| mterry | robru, run make && make check | 21:50 |
| robru | ahhh | 21:51 |
| robru | in unrelated news, today I found a little netbook of mine that's been in storage since November. It had raring installed on it... now I'm just installing all 905 updates ;-) | 21:52 |
| robru | mterry, ok, xmllint is passing, tests are going ok so far, just have to do the manual checks and then I'll approve your branch | 21:53 |
| mterry | robru, cool. Thanks! | 21:54 |
| mterry | robru, heh, only 905?! | 21:54 |
| robru | mterry, well, it was put in storage *late* in november ;-) | 21:56 |
| robru | so just 905 updates for december/jan | 21:56 |
| mterry | :) | 21:57 |
| robru | mterry, ok, so if I see '--tempdir=/home/robru/.cache/deja-dup/tmp' in the debugging output, then that for sure means it worked? ~/.cache/deja-dup/tmp directory was never used prior to this branch? | 22:07 |
| mterry | robru, right | 22:08 |
| mterry | robru, nor was --tempdir either | 22:08 |
| robru | mterry, k, great. just gonna peruse the diff briefly then approve ;-) | 22:09 |
| mterry | robru, I just noticed something myself looking at the diff | 22:17 |
| robru | oh? | 22:17 |
| mterry | robru, I changed DuplicityInstance.start from normal to async. And thus dropped it's 'throw Error' line | 22:17 |
| robru | ... ok? | 22:17 |
| mterry | robru, but, when I called it from DuplicityJob before, I would bubble up the error message via show_error(). In this new diff, the error message gets swallowed by DuplicityInstance and the user will end up just seeing a generic "Unknown error" message | 22:18 |
| mterry | robru, let me fix that real quick | 22:18 |
| robru | ok | 22:18 |
| robru | mterry, oh, I like the way you allow this tempdir logic to be overridden by an env variable. That's thinking ahead ;-) | 22:22 |
| mterry | robru, I fixed the issue I found locally, but I decided to write a test for this case for the future. But I have to run. So I'll update tomorrow | 22:31 |
| robru | mterry, ok | 22:31 |
| mterry | robru, thanks for the review! | 22:34 |
| robru | mterry, yw, have a good night! | 22:34 |
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