| CarstenG | Hi at all | 16:03 |
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| cqfd93 | Hi Carsten! | 16:28 |
| CarstenG | Hi Sylvie. | 16:45 |
| CarstenG | I think the French quantal version is nearly ready to publish | 16:46 |
| CarstenG | Kevin uploaded today the title page. | 16:46 |
| cqfd93 | That's great news! | 16:57 |
| cqfd93 | I haven't heard from Kevin about that, maybe he's too busy. | 16:58 |
| godbyk | CarstenG, cqfd93: The French quantal version has just been published. I just got the email that it passed review at CreateSpace. | 18:40 |
| godbyk | The PDFs are available on our website and the printed version is now available via CreateSpace. | 18:40 |
| godbyk | It should appear on Amazon soon. | 18:41 |
| godbyk | I also just published the Spanish translation of precise-e2. The quantal edition will be available in the next week. | 18:43 |
| godbyk | It's nice to see such a variety of languages in the first dropdown list: http://ubuntu-manual.org/downloads | 18:44 |
| CarstenG | Hi Kevin | 18:47 |
| CarstenG | Great news! | 18:47 |
| CarstenG | This motivates a lot to work on the German translation further. | 18:48 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Having the French translation team show you up like that? ;-) | 18:51 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Even the Russians are ahead of you with precise-e2. :) | 18:52 |
| godbyk | Looking at the translation statistics, I'm quite excited to see how many translations are nearly complete! | 18:52 |
| godbyk | I may have to get a larger bookshelf if this keeps up! | 18:52 |
| CarstenG | yes... you are right... We are not really a lot people working on German. | 18:53 |
| CarstenG | At the moment I guess me and Daniel are the only two.. | 18:53 |
| CarstenG | .And I can only make suggestions... | 18:54 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Yeah, I think a lot of depends on how many translators you have helping. | 18:59 |
| CarstenG | Well, here you see our progress: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGermanTranslators/UbuntuManual | 19:01 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: Who does 'ich' refer to in the translator column? | 19:04 |
| CarstenG | Ich = I | 19:05 |
| godbyk | I know that much.. but who is 'I'? | 19:05 |
| CarstenG | Its a placeholder, where a contributor can place his name. | 19:05 |
| godbyk | Ah, okay. | 19:05 |
| godbyk | I didn't know if it referred to a third translator who had created the wiki page or what. | 19:05 |
| CarstenG | No, Daniel Schury created the page. | 19:06 |
| cqfd93 | Hi again, both! | 19:08 |
| cqfd93 | Just announced the great news to the Frenct team | 19:08 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: Ah, excellent, Sylvie. Be sure to thank them for me for all their hard work. And congratulations! | 19:09 |
| cqfd93 | I already thanked them. Thank you! | 19:11 |
| godbyk | I should have another couple translations of 12.10 published within the next week or so. | 19:11 |
| cqfd93 | Are we the first team publishing 12.10? | 19:12 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: I think so. | 19:14 |
| godbyk | The Slovenian team is up next. And I think Spanish might be ready, too. | 19:14 |
| godbyk | cqfd93: Did you order a printed copy of 12.04e2 in French? If so, how does it look? | 19:15 |
| cqfd93 | I already received my copy of 12.04-e2: it looks great (too bad it is just black and white) | 19:16 |
| CarstenG | :-) | 19:17 |
| cqfd93 | Several co-workers asked me to order it for them | 19:17 |
| CarstenG | Kevin, you see, the color version should become a option in future. :-) | 19:18 |
| godbyk | I could publish color editions easily enough.. I just don't want people to get confused when they search for our book and find that it costs $30. | 19:19 |
| godbyk | Let me see what the color edition would cost.. one moment. | 19:19 |
| godbyk | For the English edition of quantal, it looks like it would be about US$20. | 19:21 |
| CarstenG | As you know, I would upload both versions and let the user choose. | 19:23 |
| godbyk | CarstenG: That's what I'd do. I just want to make if obvious why the one is more expensive. | 19:24 |
| godbyk | I have to go to a meeting now. I'll be back in a couple hours. | 19:26 |
| godbyk | If I don't talk to you guys before then, I hope you see you at the meeting this weekend! | 19:26 |
| cqfd93 | see you later Kevin! | 19:27 |
| CarstenG | How do they calculate the price? Do they count all pages for the color version, or only the pages which have really color and let the black/white pages at a lower price? | 19:27 |
| CarstenG | See you Kevin! | 19:27 |
| godbyk | They count all the pages the same (as color). | 19:30 |
| godbyk | see ya! | 19:30 |
| teolemon | i just reported this | 20:50 |
| teolemon | not sure whether it's in plans | 20:51 |
| teolemon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+bug/1103679 | 20:51 |
| manualbot | Launchpad bug 1103679 in ubuntu-manual "Broader distribution of Ubuntu Manual (Kindle Store, Google Play, iBookstore)" [Undecided,New] | 20:51 |
| godbyk | Hello, teolemon. Thanks for collecting those URLs. I'll check them out. | 21:36 |
| godbyk | teolemon: I would like to produce our manual in a few different e-book formats but I haven't had time to write the code to do that yet. | 21:37 |
| teolemon | now that we've finished the French translations | 21:37 |
| teolemon | we're preparing a media blitz | 21:37 |
| godbyk | Cool. | 21:37 |
| cqfd93 | ;-) | 21:37 |
| godbyk | teolemon: Thanks for all your help with the French translation. It's a lot of work! | 21:38 |
| teolemon | and we want to get it out on the largest number of ways | 21:38 |
| godbyk | I'm going to submit it to the Ubuntu Software Center, too, but it tends to take quite some time before it shows up there. | 21:38 |
| teolemon | not English | 21:38 |
| teolemon | whatever | 21:38 |
| godbyk | (I think there are only a few reviewers for the Software Center and a lot of submissions.) | 21:38 |
| teolemon | and also, I was wondering about the ETA for the Ubuntu Software Centre | 21:39 |
| teolemon | ah ok | 21:39 |
| teolemon | it will need to use the private ppa/ purchase thingy | 21:39 |
| teolemon | for speed of publication reasons | 21:39 |
| teolemon | right ? | 21:39 |
| teolemon | we were wondering whether further pushing back the announcement to include software centre links | 21:40 |
| teolemon | or to move ahead without | 21:40 |
| godbyk | teolemon: I would go ahead without it. | 21:40 |
| godbyk | teolemon: The last manual I published through the Software Center took 2-3 months. | 21:40 |
| teolemon | eeek | 21:40 |
| godbyk | Yeah. | 21:40 |
| teolemon | that's a joke :-/ | 21:41 |
| godbyk | I know that they're trying to improve the process, but right now it's quite slow. | 21:41 |
| godbyk | I submit the manual and then just wait. | 21:41 |
| teolemon | I hope they have a speedier process for Apps | 21:41 |
| godbyk | As far as I know, it's the exact same process. | 21:41 |
| teolemon | otherwise, Ubuntu will never get to be a premium platform for devs | 21:41 |
| teolemon | ... | 21:41 |
| godbyk | I'm going to look into creating a PPA for all of our manuals so that people can more easily install them in Ubuntu. | 21:42 |
| teolemon | not sure where they are installed afterwards | 21:42 |
| teolemon | is there a way to make a shortcut appear either in the launcher | 21:42 |
| teolemon | or on the desktop | 21:43 |
| godbyk | There is. | 21:43 |
| godbyk | When we install them through the Software Center currently, the files get installed to a subdirectory of /opt. | 21:43 |
| godbyk | And icons are installed in the dash. | 21:43 |
| teolemon | I'm also going to talk the French team into including it in the localised iso | 21:43 |
| godbyk | Cool. | 21:44 |
| teolemon | I think the AppStore submissions should be faster | 21:44 |
| teolemon | except perhaps for Apple | 21:44 |
| teolemon | that might go as far as rejecting it on ideological reasons | 21:44 |
| teolemon | (worth trying though) | 21:44 |
| godbyk | I'll look into it. | 21:45 |
| godbyk | I know that some e-book readers can handle PDFs, but I wouldn't want to send them a PDF that's designed for a full-sized piece of paper. | 21:46 |
| godbyk | I think the text would be too small on the e-book reader and the reader would have to zoom in all the time. | 21:46 |
| godbyk | So I'll have to see what size of PDF works best with those readers. | 21:46 |
| godbyk | I've started writing some code to convert our manuals to ePUB format, but that'll take a bit longer. | 21:46 |
| teolemon | yes | 21:50 |
| teolemon | the right way to do it | 21:50 |
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