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slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round16:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu)16:02
slangasekjodh stokachu stgraber bdmurray ogra doko xnox barry slangasek ev cjwatson16:02
jodh* blueprints:16:02
jodh  - foundations-r-upstart-stateful-re-exec: DONE16:02
jodh  - foundations-r-upstart-roadmap: NOPROGRESS16:02
jodh  - foundations-r-arm-ubiquity: NOPROGRESS (btw - who assigned 'implement reboot in the oem-config' to me?)16:02
jodh  - foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements:16:02
jodh    - Updated spec updates for shutdown and event prefixing.16:02
jodh    - Reworked workitems plan.16:02
jodh    - Reviewed and merged lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-session-socket.16:02
jodh    - Reviewed and merged lp:~xnox/upstart/user-log-dir.16:02
jodh    - Reviewed lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-make-event-bridge-usable.16:02
jodh    - Worked on removal of existing sessions code.16:03
jodh    - Worked on adding list-sessions.16:03
jodh    - Worked on setenv+getenv branch.16:03
jodh* upstart16:03
jodh    - Tweaked lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-881885 after comments from cjwatson.16:03
jodh    - Uploaded fix for bug 1096531.16:03
ubottubug 1096531 in upstart "After touch /forcefsck and reboot: Assertion failed in log_clear_unflushed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109653116:03
jodh    - discussions with kernel team re kernel image 'boot hang' (which16:03
jodh      looks to be a conflation of bug 1096531 and a kernel issue16:03
jodh      resulting in no console output).16:03
jodh* misc:16:03
jodh    - FOSDEM admin.16:03
jodh🁭16:03
slangasekhum, "reboot in oem-config" doesn't sound familiar to me16:03
jodh 16:03
stokachubug 1023069 - Havent had a chance to dig into this one but wanted to know UE has come across this in testing16:03
stokachubug 1078103 - Some of the partners listed are in this meeting, wanted to get some feedback on what we were doing for providing acroread across arch's and distro's.16:03
stokachuhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698329 - working on getting sosreport packaged and included into Debian16:03
ubottubug 1023069 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Packages was corrupt" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102306916:03
ubottubug 1078103 in acroread (Ubuntu) "Still no acroread for 64 bit precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107810316:03
stokachucurrently working on this merge: https://merges.ubuntu.com/a/aptitude/REPORT16:03
cjwatson881885> I approved that modulo conflicts16:03
ubottuDebian bug 698329 in wnpp "ITP: sos -- This set of tools is designed to provide information to support organizations" [Wishlist,Open]16:03
stokachu(done)16:03
stgraberFeature work:16:04
stgraber - Upstart (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements)16:04
stgraber  - Some more work on the session socket code, now merged upstream.16:04
stgraber  - Worked a bit on the event bridge to make it work with the session socket and handle pid files properly.16:04
* xnox vaguelly recollects info about it. jodh: it may be related to hostname changes (e.g. reboot to update hostname everywhere)16:04
stgraber  - Planning the next steps (jobs, packaging, landing).16:04
stgraber - Container (BLUEPRINT: servercloud-r-lxc)16:04
stgraber  - Code reviews.16:04
stgraber  - Planning 0.9~alpha3.16:04
stgraber - Networking (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-networking)16:04
stgraber  - Merged isc-dhcp-server and fixed a few bugs in the process (bug 1071928, bug 1088682 and bug 930962)16:04
stgraber  - Merged resolvconf and fixed a few bugs in the process (bug 1085756 and bug 1085862)16:04
ubottubug 1071928 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Quantal) "isc-dhcp-server-ldap (4.2.4-1ubuntu10.1) is not capable of ldap" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107192816:04
stgraber  - Prepared experimental version of isc-dhcp-server with Infiniband support, waiting for test results before pushing to the archive.16:04
ubottubug 1088682 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Quantal) "dhclient does not register hostname to dynamic DNS (AD)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108868216:04
stgraberOther work:16:04
ubottubug 930962 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu) "dhcp3-server reports many bad udp checksums to syslog using virtio NIC" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93096216:04
ubottubug 1085756 in resolvconf (Ubuntu) "/etc/ppp/ip-up.d/000resolvconf doesn't check if envvar USEPEERDNS is set" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108575616:04
stgraber - Installer16:04
ubottubug 1085862 in resolvconf (Ubuntu) "#DEBHELPER# token is in the wrong place, and other resolvconf postinst nits" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/108586216:04
stgraber  - SRUed fix for casper bug 98427616:04
ubottubug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98427616:04
stgraber - Other16:04
stgraber  - Helped debug some qemu/libvirt interactions (bug 1102487)16:04
ubottubug 1102487 in libvirt (Ubuntu) "VM won't boot after recent qemu upgrade" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110248716:04
stgraber  - Patch pilot on Monday16:04
stgraberTODO:16:04
stgraber - Follow-up on state of the lxc and libseccomp MIRs.16:04
stgraber - Try to finish any LXC feature work for this cycle (2 items left).16:05
stgraber - Prepare some upstart user session debs with all our patches and the initial Xsession scripts and upstart jobs.16:05
stgraber - Start the work on (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-improving-dist-upgrades).16:05
stgraber(DONE)16:05
cjwatsonstokachu: 1023069> I think that should have been a new bug rather than dogpiling on an existing one, but regardless: please get the affected user to upload a full installer syslog (they can extract it by going back to the main menu and selecting "save debug logs", or by running 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb' from a shell and using scp)16:05
bdmurray* blueprints16:05
bdmurrayfoundations-r-phased-update: I'm working on parts of this16:06
stokachucjwatson: ok would you prefer a new bug ? ill re-expire this one and create a new one with that info16:06
jodhxnox: yes I recall discussions where we decided it would be safest to reboot, but don't remember getting assigned the workitem :)16:06
cjwatsonstokachu: the business about Packages.gz being 20 bytes (i.e. gzip of an empty file) is likely a red herring since that's probably as intended on a CD16:06
cjwatsonstokachu: nah, might as well continue with this now16:06
cjwatsonstokachu: just for the next time :)16:06
bdmurrayfoundations-r-improving-dist-upgrades: no progress16:06
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stokachucjwatson: sure thing ill make sure support knows as well not to piggy back off stuff like that16:06
bdmurrayfoundations-r-crash-database: I'm working on a team view for errors.ubuntu.com16:06
bdmurrayfoundations-r-sru-queue-velocity: no progress16:06
bdmurrayother:16:07
bdmurraysubmitted and merged a merge proposal for the subscriber packages view on errors16:07
bdmurrayreported bug 1103156 regarding most_common_problems.js and user parameter16:07
ubottubug 1103156 in Errors "not possible to use user parameter on front page of errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110315616:07
cjwatsonstokachu: Yeah, sometimes it makes sense but more often than not it doesn't16:07
bdmurrayposted on blog regarding source package searching on errors.ubuntu.com16:07
bdmurraydiscovered that the Launchpad API does not serve ETags with collections thereby making it harder to cache them16:07
slangasekstokachu: bug #1023069> xnox's reply seems definitive, this should only happen if there's a network problem?16:07
bdmurrayresearch into update-manager phased updates support in Q16:07
ubottubug 1023069 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Packages was corrupt" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102306916:07
bdmurrayinvestigation into lsb-release crash - bug 109421816:07
ubottubug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109421816:07
bdmurrayinvestigation into bug 1096022 and upgrade test failing16:07
ubottubug 1096022 in update-manager (Ubuntu) ""E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" during lucid->precise universe upgrade of amd64" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109602216:07
bdmurrayinvestigation into wubi bug 109381916:07
ubottubug 1093819 in Wubi "Wubi installed 12.10 amd64 without configuring i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109381916:07
bdmurrayverified P SRU of autofs5 - bug 48869616:07
bdmurrayhad a holiday16:07
ubottubug 488696 in autofs5 (Ubuntu Precise) "syntax error in nsswitch config near [ syntax error ]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/48869616:07
bdmurrayuploaded apport fix for bug 110019816:07
ubottubug 1100198 in apport (Ubuntu) "source_linux.py logic fails to detect 3.8.0-0-generic as an Ubuntu kernel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110019816:07
bdmurray⁂ done16:07
cjwatsonslangasek: *should* - worth a double-check though if it's affecting a customer16:07
ogra_done:16:07
ogra_ * added preseed.cfg support to nexus7 images16:07
ogra_ * added shell script that makes auto-rotation of the nexus7 work16:07
ogra_ * fixed various gsettings issues16:07
ogra_ * updated onboard settings on the nexus7 for new features (proper docking support)16:07
ogra_ * various discussions about nexus7 work16:07
ogra_ * started the weekly nexus7 status meeting on fridays again16:07
ogra_ * hunting down IS to somehow get an arm livefs builder again16:07
ogra_todo:16:07
ogra_ * port nx7 images to xz compression (blocked on missing livefs builder)16:08
ogra_ * discuss livefs builder situation with infinity (carried over from last week, blocked on builder)16:08
ogra_ * fix plymouth vs console-setup racing somehow (likely needs cjwatson advice) to allow initrd-less booting16:08
ogra_ * port update-notifier to pkexec to fix onboard vs gksu issues16:08
ogra_ * add lux script for making the ambient light sensor work on the nexus716:08
ogra_..16:08
doko* blueprint cross building: should be done (there wasn't much in the blueprint i16:08
dokotself)16:08
doko* fixed the armhf and armel cross compilers (still need the armel one, because d16:08
dokopkg-cross can't handle arm biarch, and getting rid of dpkg-cross would require m16:08
dokoore work)16:08
cjwatsonlikely needs cjwatson staring at a wall for an hour trying to remember ...16:08
doko* looking at python3 and twisted16:08
doko* started backporting python3 cross build patches to 2.7.16:08
doko* updated GCC to the Linaro 2013-01 release.16:08
doko* updated my notebook to raring, now having the fan constantly running :-(16:08
doko(done)16:08
ogra_cjwatson, you mean the console-setup stuff ?16:09
ogra_heh16:09
xnoxfoundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements:16:09
xnox* implement review comments in the lp:~xnox/upstart/user-log-dir16:09
xnox  Approved and merged now.16:09
xnoxfoundations-r-arm-usb-creator-fastboot-support:16:09
xnox* Started UI and backend implementation. Usb-creator can auto-launch16:09
xnoxupon plugging in a nexus7 device (with a hack), nexus7 devices16:09
slangasekstokachu: wrt bug #1078103, I thought Adobe was no longer giving us distribution rights in any event16:09
xnoxappear. It doesn't yet successfully flash nexus7. Hoping to have a PPA16:09
ubottubug 1078103 in acroread (Ubuntu) "Still no acroread for 64 bit precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107810316:09
xnoxspec, setup secure-boot VM (with OVMF) to verify/fix Secure Boot16:09
xnoxsupport in usb-creator.16:09
xnoxubiquity:16:09
xnox* Working on a couple preseeding bugs for QA (nfs & oem-config preseeds)16:10
xnoxTODO:16:10
xnox* lvm2 merge to continue shipping clvm16:10
xnox* mdadm merge from experimental to bring in improved isms support.16:10
xnox..16:10
cjwatsonogra_: yeah16:10
barryshort week due to usa holiday.  bug 1100408.  bug 1077087.  bug 1077092.  bug 1102715.  bug 1102621.  reviewed lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/raring/python3-defaults/resync will approve/upload unless doko objects.  uploaded python3-whoosh to ppa for testing as xapian replacement.16:10
ubottubug 1100408 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Update Depends for new oneconf packaging" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110040816:10
barryfoundations-r-python3-oauth: 2 bugs fix committed; all other bugs in progress with branches having mps awaiting review (with a couple waiting for imminent new upstream release).16:10
ubottubug 1077087 in Ubuntu Single Sign On Client "Switch from python-oauth to python-oauthlib" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107708716:10
ubottubug 1077092 in Ubuntu One storage protocol "Switch from python-oauth to python-oauthlib" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107709216:10
ubottubug 1102715 in OneConf "oneconf-query crashed with ImportError in /usr/bin/oneconf-query: No module named oneconf.version" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110271516:10
ubottubug 1102621 in Twisted Buildbot Configuration "xvfb failed to start" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110262116:10
barryfoundations-r-python-versions: updated blueprint work items.16:10
barryfoundations-r-python33: see above merge proposal for last remaining TODO.16:11
barrydone16:11
xnoxslangasek: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acroread/9.5.1-1precise1/+build/3404003 seems to part of the problem.16:11
xnoxstokachu: it failed to build for amd64 in precise, which may be something we should fix or not.16:12
stokachuxnox: do we have a general consensus on if we are going to continue building acroread?16:13
cjwatsonpresumably we need to find out if we have continued permission to redistribute before a consensus from this team means anything16:13
stokachudo i ask legal about that?16:13
slangasekogra_: "Somehow get an arm livefs builder again" - do we not currently have one?16:15
cjwatsonI've lost track of who's responsible for partner agreements; presumably somebody with OEM in their title16:15
ogra_slangasek, not since four days, nope16:16
slangasekogra_: is there an RT for this?16:16
slangasekogra_: (please cc: me to it)16:16
ogra_slangasek, seems there is some kind of machine moving going on in the DC16:16
cjwatsonor actually maybe ISV16:16
ogra_no, RT, i am constantly in #is though, in conversation with ChrisS16:16
ogra_he said there would be hope that everything is connected up again later today16:17
slangasekdoko: wrt cross-compilation, the main deliverable that we need here is high-level documentation in wiki.ubuntu.com telling people how to use everything; does that exist already?16:18
cjwatsonslangasek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding shouldn't be too bad now16:18
dokohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrossBuilding16:19
slangasekxnox: mdadm> did you see my bug assignment to you wrt mdadm's degraded mode initramfs handling?16:19
dokoright, maybe I should extend this how to use it with just dpkg-buildpackage16:19
cjwatsonstokachu: My best guess after some trawling through the directory and the wiki would be to try David Duffey16:20
stokachucjwatson: ok thanks ill shoot him an email and get some confirmation on that16:20
xnoxslangasek: now, i did.16:20
slangasekogra_: please open an RT for this issue (and in general, for issues like this that are taking longer than they should) so that IS knows it's a priority - not just the person you're talking with in #is at the time16:21
ogra_k16:21
slangasekstokachu: please cc: me on your mail to dduffey16:21
stokachuslangasek: rgr that16:22
xnoxslangasek: will include it in the upcomming upload.16:22
slangasekta16:22
slangasek * short week, US holiday this Monday16:22
slangasek * pulled into a number of meetings last week at the client sprint16:22
slangasek * ongoing discussions with folks around Kylin16:22
slangasek * tried to reproduce bug #1094218 (and failed), though there is strong confirmation it's specific to TeamViewer16:22
ubottubug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109421816:22
slangasek * fielding various mountall, plymouth bug reports; mountall once again is too fast (bug #1103047)16:22
ubottubug 1103047 in mountall (Ubuntu) "mountall causes automatic mounting of gluster shares to fail" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110304716:22
slangasek * head-scratching over bug #110024716:22
ubottubug 1100247 in shim (Ubuntu Raring) "Unable to install Ubuntu on laptop without enabling Legacy mode" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110024716:22
slangasek * double dose of SRU processing last week, as the queue is rather long16:22
slangasek * FOSDEM planning16:22
slangasek * TODO this week:16:22
slangasek  * hunt down gnu-efi regression affecting shim16:22
slangasek  * systemd packaging16:22
slangasek * BP status:16:22
slangasek  * foundations-r-secure-boot: in progress er the above16:22
slangasek  * foundations-r-improve-cross-compilation: stalled; will look at this next month16:22
slangasek  * foundations-r-opt-installation: no progress to report; will start on this next month16:22
slangasek(done)16:22
slangasekbdmurray: did you have any more luck reproducing bug #1094218 than I did?16:22
slangasekI'm not seeing anything in teamviewer that explains why this would break16:22
evWeek of January 17th16:23
ev- Continued work on the prodstack error tracker deployment.16:23
ev  - I've now got it deployed and working end-to-end in Amazon EC2, including16:23
ev    using S3 to store core dumps. \o/16:23
ev  - Provided set up instructions in the RT and at16:23
ev    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker/Deployment#Prodstack16:23
ev  - Started looking into getting the existing Nagios hooks implemented.16:23
bdmurrayslangasek: no, I'm working on reproducing that dist upgrade bug16:23
slangasekok16:23
ev- Finishing up my apport branch to group system-internal error reports with the16:23
ev  next desktop application error report. Just need to fix a few more failing16:23
ev  tests (that expect lone system reports to produce a UI) and it will be ready16:23
ev  for review.16:23
ev- Meeting with Andy and Stefan to discuss how we can better handle error16:23
ev  reports from the kernel.16:23
ev  - They're going to write an in-kernel replacement for kerneloops.16:23
ev  - We'll create something similar to the failed to suspend mechanism for16:23
ev    reporting when the system has hard locked, somewhat replacing the16:23
ev    /var/crash/vmcore approach.16:23
ev- Started investigating how we can translate Breakpad-generated error reports16:23
ev  into Apport reports:16:23
ev  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker/BreakpadApplicationSupport16:23
ev- Code review.16:23
evBlueprints:16:23
evhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-crash-database16:23
ev- Work with the kernel team now done, with the remaining tasks handed over to them.16:23
ev- Errors from Debconf dialogs and graphical application hangs still sitting in16:23
ev  the nearly-done state, waiting for me to find enough time to finish them off.16:23
ev- Will likely defer the Hadoop-dependent "What's interesting about this16:23
ev  problem?" task, as IS refuses to touch my Hadoop deployment instructions16:23
ev  until we get production on prodstack, thus fixing the retracer scaling16:24
ev  problem.16:24
ev- Will work on the automatic error reporting mechanism soon, as it's required16:24
ev  for a number of work items (juju, landscape, etc).16:24
ev- I'll be completing all the nagios tasks as I implement that piece of the16:24
ev  prodstack deployment.16:24
evhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-updates-from-crash-reports16:24
ev- Will hold off on this until the tail-end of the cycle, time permitting.16:24
evhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-fix-ddebs16:24
ev- Blocked on infinity (?) teaching the librarian to publish ddebs.16:24
evhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-metrics16:24
ev- Deferred.16:24
evhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-bucketing-improvements16:24
ev- Plan in place. I need to run this by the security team as there are16:24
ev  outstanding questions as to how we retain enough privileges to drop to the16:24
ev  user experiencing the error to run the additional hooks.16:24
evhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-r-phased-updates16:24
ev- Brian is mostly handling this.16:24
ev(done)16:24
cjwatsonFeature progress this week:16:24
cjwatson foundations-r-finish-archive-reorg: debmirror patch accepted upstream.  Launchpad patch to add Package-Set fields in progress.  Discussed detailed requirements with security team (earlier this year).  Next step: discuss detailed requirements for Supported field with PES/GSS/etc.16:24
cjwatson foundations-r-grub-integration-testing: Got hold of upstream's megatest scripts, which may come in handy here.16:24
cjwatson foundations-r-phased-updates: Launchpad database patch deployed.  Launchpad code patch pushed and awaiting review.16:24
cjwatson foundations-r-secure-boot: Sufficiently done for 12.04.2.  Next step: look into using -signed preferentially, for 13.04 and 12.04.3.16:24
cjwatson foundations-r-upload-intermediary: Still figuring out how to hook in autopkgtest.  This didn't quite make it to the top of my list this week, but I live in hope.16:24
cjwatson12.04.2:16:24
cjwatson Significant progress on oversizedness.  Should be fine as soon as I figure out why my attempt at language pack removal apparently didn't stick (just asked webops to tweak apt preferences).16:24
cjwatson Almost everything else looks good; just sorting out the last few necessary bug-fixes.16:24
cjwatsonInstaller:16:25
cjwatson Figured out bug 1065281 (I think).  Awaiting confirmation before I finish the backports for 12.04.2.16:25
ubottubug 1065281 in partman-efi (Ubuntu Quantal) "Installer crashed when trying to partition 4k/4k sector hard disks" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106528116:25
cjwatson Refactored automatic mode a bit.16:25
cjwatson Committed fix for bug 1057485 for 12.04.2.16:25
ubottubug 1057485 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "ubiquity-kde codepage problem in Timezone map (Timezone.py)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/105748516:25
cjwatsonGRUB:16:25
cjwatson Reduced delta against Debian a bit.16:25
cjwatson Continued back-burner work on nested function removal.16:25
cjwatson Sorted out problems with containers a bit more comprehensively (bug 1060404).16:25
ubottubug 1060404 in lxc (Ubuntu Precise) "update-grub runs and fails in containers" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106040416:25
cjwatsonArchive admin / Launchpad:16:25
cjwatson Got fed up with developers having to use debuild -v when stacking multiple SRUs; fixed sru-report to handle this, and filed bug 1102870 for the remaining Launchpad work.  I hope to get the latter fixed next week.16:25
ubottubug 1102870 in Launchpad itself "Copies use naïve ancestry check to calculate previous version for notifications and bug closures" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110287016:25
cjwatson Trying to narrow down https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-January/036374.html.16:25
cjwatsonOn holiday tomorrow morning and all of Friday.16:25
cjwatson..16:25
slangasekany more questions over the above?16:26
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs16:27
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs
slangasekbdmurray: anything new popping up?16:28
bdmurrayslangasek: bug 1102499 but I see it was assigned already16:29
ubottubug 1102499 in mdadm (Ubuntu) "Cannot see 'bootdegraded' question" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110249916:29
bdmurraybug 1101326 is that for us or the desktop team?16:29
ubottubug 1101326 in consolekit (Ubuntu) "console-kit-daemon appears to consume 2GB of memory" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110132616:29
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slangasekbdmurray: we can ask seb128 if he has someone who can look at consolekit; otherwise ours16:32
bdmurrayslangasek: is that we as in me?16:32
bdmurrayI've been reviewing some of our past bugs and bug 1013681 could still use fixing.16:34
ubottubug 1013681 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "make apt-key net-update secure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101368116:34
slangasekbdmurray: we as in you> yes please :)16:34
bdmurraycjwatson: you'd mentioned a server side change...16:34
dokoI really hope that the eglibc update still will get into 12.04.2 (can't see infinity online here)16:35
cjwatsonOh, err, I'd sort of lost track of that one16:36
cjwatsonIIRC it's a static file to be put somewhere?  If somebody provides the file and tells me where to install it ...16:37
cjwatsonOh, you can't, it's a signed file.  Instructions for doing so, then16:38
cjwatsonHappy to be a substitute webop for this purpose ;)16:38
bdmurrayslangasek: and regarding bug 1094218 did we want to get it assigned?  It is still the #1 error on errors.ubuntu.com. (Oh, the vast majority of the reports are from 12.04)16:42
ubottubug 1094218 in lsb (Ubuntu) "lsb_release crashed with IOError in getstatusoutput(): [Errno 10] No child processes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109421816:42
slangasekbdmurray: well, I haven't been able to reproduce it, and it appears to be caused by a third-party deb even if we can't figure out how16:43
slangasekbdmurray: so it's not at the top of the priority list IMHO16:43
evnonsense, all problems should be prioritised based on their rank on errors.ubuntu.com! ;)16:44
slangasekheh16:44
xnoxdespite being caused by a third-party deb, I don't expect lsb_release to ever crash like that.16:44
slangasekI don't either, and I also can't /get/ it to crash like that16:44
xnoxit should return an error exit code and possibly some output.16:44
slangasekas cjwatson noted last week, it looks like something has reaped our child for us, which doesn't make sense16:45
stgraberI've actually introduced a bug like that in python3-lxc once as I had a generic child reaper in the python module, so anything import python3-lxc was getting their child reaped for them and trickering similar errors16:47
slangasekstgraber: well, teamviewer doesn't install any python code at all so shouldn't be the cause of generic child reapers... if you want to take a look, though, feel free16:48
slangasekbdmurray: anything else?16:48
bdmurraybug 86982516:48
ubottubug 869825 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "French (Switzerland) is no longer a layout choice in the installer" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86982516:48
slangasekwontfix> stgraber lives in Canada now16:49
evhahaha16:49
stgraberthat's actually wrong, fr_CH is in there, just not where you'd think it'd be, it's under German (Switzerland) IIRC16:49
* slangasek blinks16:49
bdmurrayright it says that in the description16:50
bdmurray' Swiss-french people now have to go to "German (Switzerland)" and then choose Switzerland French layout in the right pane.'16:50
xnoxwell, we took keyboard layouts from debian.... sure we can have an ubuntu patch for this.16:53
slangasekis this straightforward to fix?16:54
stgraberit's probably straightforward to fix once we find where the bug is and console-setup usually gives me headaches :)16:54
* ogra_ joins the console-setup whining 16:54
xnoxreading wikipedia the only difference between switzerland german/french/italian/romanish/liechtenstein/luxembourg keyboard layout is which accented characters get the preferencial access without dead keys.16:55
ogra_*whine*16:55
xnoxso i'm pretty sure that any swiss computer user can use any swiss keyboard ;-)16:55
xnoxlayout.16:55
stgraberxnox: yep, the physical layout is identical between fr_CH and de_CH, it's just that you get direct é and à with the french layout and ö and ü with the german layout16:56
* xnox ponders if we can display same layout in multiple categories....16:56
stgraberxnox: well, they'll be a bit annoyed having to press shift a lot more often than usual, but yeah, it won't prevent them from installing and changing the layout later16:56
cjwatsonI question whether that's in console-setup16:57
slangasekso does anyone want to take this bug?16:57
cjwatsonBecause most of the keyboard layout/variant categorisation stuff comes more directly from xkb-data16:57
cjwatson(well, possibly it might involve a console-setup rebuild)16:57
cjwatsonslangasek: I'll take it and hate myself16:57
slangasekdone ;)16:58
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:58
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slangasekanything else?16:58
bdmurraywho is the right person to review a software-center merge proposal?16:58
xnoxmterry?!16:58
xnoxor mvo....16:58
xnoxdepends which bits of software center.16:59
stgraberbdmurray: I'd have said mvo but that's probably not true anymore, hold on a sec, I'll find a good fallback :)16:59
barryprobably not mvo ;)16:59
barryalsina16:59
ogra_and depends if you can catch mvo online16:59
barry(i think)16:59
xnoxbdmurray: which merge proposal?16:59
bdmurrayhttps://code.launchpad.net/~brian-murray/software-center/bug-1095823/+merge/14397116:59
xnox(e.g. if it's not the black magic core it may be easier )17:00
bdmurraynope its kind of silly17:00
stgraberbdmurray: bah, my usual fallback apparently no longer works for Canonical either ;)17:00
ogra_well, but that change looks rather easy :)17:01
xnoxbdmurray: infinity is in the correct team membership, he  can +1 it, and then tarmac should auto land the patch =)17:01
dokobarry, looks like there some extra changes, but I can't see these being committed to debian17:01
xnoxbarry: and you can as well =)))17:01
ogra_after all you can just trust smagoun and blame him afterwards if it failed17:02
* xnox thinks he got lp permissions wrong.17:02
barryxnox: true.  i can review it but i don't feel comfortable committing it.  roberto alsina is leading the project now i think17:02
xnoxbarry: it's a one line typo fix.17:02
barryxnox: oh17:02
bdmurray2 characters even17:03
ogra_-OEM_CHANNEL_DESCRIPTOR = "/var/lib/ubuntu-dist-channel"17:03
ogra_+OEM_CHANNEL_DESCRIPTOR = "/var/lib/ubuntu_dist_channel"17:03
xnoxbarry: it's OEM priority. we should be landing it and sru'ing it.17:03
* xnox likes the humble "Ubuntu One Control Tower" team name.17:03
barryxnox, bdmurray approved.  i have to skip out for an errand at lunch (soon as this meeting's over), but ping me and i'll land it when i get back if no one else does17:05
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slangaseksold17:05
barrythanks!17:05
ogra_thanks !17:05
slangasekthanks, everyone17:05
stgraberthanks!17:05
jodhthanks17:05
bdmurraybarry: thanks17:06
xnoxcheers17:07
evthanks!17:07
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