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[06:08] <mediaman49> testing connection  your sound is good as is video
[06:09] <mediaman49> I can see you and hear you fine
[06:11] <mediaman49> topic of the Day?
[06:12] <JoseeAntonioR> mediaman49: the stream is not live anymore
[06:13] <mediaman49> Kernel  realtime   work  who looks after in ubuntu?
[06:15] <JoseeAntonioR> mediaman49: as I was saying, the stream is not live anymore
[06:17] <mediaman49> thanks jose
[07:44] <Testingtesting> Does anyone know where I can watch the older ubuntuonair videos?
[07:46] <Testingtesting> In answer to myself, incase the channel is logged somewhere. The "old" hangout's can be found on youtube (of course!) in the ubuntuonair channel
[08:30] <dholbach> good morning
[11:23] <tinti> hi, do someone have any news about ubuntu android?
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[16:41] <nemesis1311> help
[17:46] <GuidoPallemans> does the jono hangout start in 75 minutes?
[17:48] <JoseeAntonioR> GuidoPallemans: yep, you're right!
[17:48] <GuidoPallemans> haha ok, thanks
[17:50] <GuidoPallemans> JoseeAntonioR: maybe adjust the site :D
[17:50] <JoseeAntonioR> GuidoPallemans: what do you mean?
[17:51] <GuidoPallemans> http://ubuntuonair.com/
[17:51] <GuidoPallemans> still says Next Hangout: Ubuntu Development Hangout with Leann Ogasawara of the Kernel Team
[17:51] <JoseeAntonioR> GuidoPallemans: fixed, thanks!
[17:52] <GuidoPallemans> magnificent
[17:52] <GuidoPallemans> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?p0=1440&iso=20130123T19 hehee
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[18:52] <JoseeAntonioR> hey guys! we're starting in a while
[18:54] <jono> JoseeAntonioR, joining now
[18:54] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: ok!
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[18:59] <JoseeAntonioR> we're live now, you can reload the page and click on the video to start watching :)
[18:59] <Cormac-W8KWA> got it
[19:00] <GuidoPallemans> yup
[19:00] <netcurli> yes
[19:00] <Cormac-W8KWA> Yes just fine
[19:00] <GuidoPallemans> brillian T-shirt
[19:00] <nathanpc> love the t-shirt
[19:01] <nathanpc> haha
[19:03] <d0od> QUESTION: Can you tell us morr about the Ubuntu Core Apps project?
[19:03] <nathanpc> no, it's ok
[19:03] <rrnwexec> QUESTION: What's the biggest Ubuntu news you've heard this week?
[19:03]  * popey hugs d0od 
[19:03] <Cormac-W8KWA> be nice havent had my coffee yet
[19:04] <amaro_ray123> QUESTION: I have heard rumors Ubuntu is considering a rolling release. Is that something in the works?
[19:05] <RobinJ> QUESTION: or rather, a favour; please mention next time in which IRC channel i need to be :p
[19:05] <popey> RobinJ: it's listed on the site ☺
[19:05] <JoseeAntonioR> RobinJ: All Ubuntu on Air! sessions take place here (in exception of those related to classroom)
[19:06] <RobinJ> popey, i didnt get here through the website
[19:06] <RobinJ> didnt know it was called "ubuntu on air"
[19:06] <RobinJ> just sayin' :p
[19:06] <popey> ok ☺
[19:06] <pemibo> QUESTION: Do you think that we will  see Ubuntu Phone OS on a tablet some day like Android and iOS.
[19:07] <GuidoPallemans> QUESTION: when will the ubuntu qml api somewhat update? it hasn't changed a bit since the announcement of the phone
[19:07] <The_Flying_V> QUESTION: Your opinion on a possible rolling release of ubuntu
[19:07] <nathanpc> QUESTION: Is there any video about how to create packages for PPAs?
[19:07] <RobinJ> QUESTION: This is a little hobby project of mine; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.robinj.ubuntu -- But it uses Ubuntu artwork. is there any kind of license agreemet, disclaimer, privacy policy, whatever legal nonsense i need to put in there as to not get in trouble?
[19:10] <popey> RobinJ: we have a trademark policy
[19:10] <popey> RobinJ: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[19:10] <RobinJ> popey, wow, that's lengthy enough :p
[19:11] <gregfmartin> QUESTION: Is QML the primary language that's being focused on now?
[19:19] <ProfTwitch> QUESTION. Can you tell us more about the new Scopes API?
[19:20] <FlyingPig> QUESTION: Are there plans for a CoreApps project for the desktop? It seems that GNOME and Unity are drifing apart more and more and Nautilus gets worse with each release.. (Would also be handy to have 1 source tree for all form factors..)
[19:21] <ikons> Question: when will canonical publicly acknowledge they messed up on the shopping lens and do something about it?
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[19:22] <ikons> Question: why doesnt Canonical give the trademark to the community and form a foundation so the community can have more input in the OS and direction?
[19:22] <Cormac-W8KWA> QUESTION: Any word on when there going to do "Themeing Work" with unity desktop?
[19:23] <ProfTwitch> QUESTION: Mark talked about applications having a 'phone face' and a 'desktop face'. Is there a plan for Ubuntu Phone Core Apps to be the phone face to the existing desktop apps, such as evince, gcalctool, etc.?
[19:23] <JoseeAntonioR> keep asking your questins, they'll be read on-air and answered!
[19:26] <rrnwexec> QUESTION: There's been a thread recently on the ubuntu-phone mailing list about partnering with  a "fair-trade" phone handset manufacturer. The idea would be to get Ubuntu deployed on a hardware platform that more closely matches Ubuntu's ethos. Any thoughts on pursuing this idea?
[19:26] <aeonwanderer> QUESTION: any clues about customization on ubuntu phone,
[19:27] <pemibo> QUESTION: Will we see more tutorials for Ubuntu Phone OS and Ubuntu Desktop in the future? I like the ones on developer.android.com or the video you did on developer.ubuntu.com (that little browser). Those helped me really a lot ;).
[19:30] <KevQuirk> Jono - I've heard rumours of Ubuntu going to a rolling release. Can you elaborate on this at all?
[19:30] <popey> KevQuirk: you missed it, he already covered that in detail
[19:31] <KevQuirk> ahhh crap
[19:31] <popey> its recorded and will be online to watch later
[19:31] <KevQuirk> Cool, I'll catch it on youtube later.
[19:31] <KevQuirk> thanks popey
[19:31] <ikons> Question: do you think Canonical has been critical of community members who has disagreed with the implementation? do you think contributors should be honest or toe the line? you said Alan Bells feedback was good but his ideas have not been used?
[19:32] <jamesh_> QUESTION: Is QML/JavaScript/C/C++ now the preferred way to develop for ubuntu desktop also?
[19:34] <ikons> Linux Foundation, Python Foundation, and many others do a fine job of protecting their trademarks
[19:37] <fruglepie> Engeneering is the only contribution worth counting?
[19:37] <popey> QUESTION: My son Sam knows you as "Daddys friend who *always* wears flip-flops" yet in recent photos you're not wearing them! This upsets Sam greatly and makes me look like a terrible father. Why aren't you wearing flip-flops?! :D
[19:38] <ikons_> Question: will Canonical at some point better recognize top community contributors and do more to support locos? it seems fedora better supports its communities with resources?
[19:40] <d0od> QUESTION: Recently some developers of apps in the 'ubuntu top 10 paid' chart have been mentioned their low sales. Are Canonical concerned with the current sales figures for apps? Or is it a case of getting people to use the Software Center more?
[19:40] <gregfmartin> popey - Demand he show his shoes on-air! :D
[19:41] <FlyingPig> QUESTION: Will I be able to use Ubuntu TV on my Ubuntu Desktop once it is finished?
[19:42] <popey> :D
[19:44] <ikons> Question: California loco says you go to loco events in your own state or even idle on the channel? doesnt seem supportive
[19:44] <ProfTwitch> QUESTION: We heard about an icon refresh a while ago and have now seen the new icons for scopes, the BFB, Ubuntu Software Centre, etc. Given you have hired a designer, can we expect to see many more new icons in Raring?
[19:45] <ikons> says you dont
[19:46] <ikons> jono: dont go to events ^
[19:46] <fruglepie> QUESTION: Is that periodic table complete?
[19:47] <popey> ikons: other canonical people do go to their local loco and lug, jono is just one guy
[19:47] <pemibo> QUESTION: Last year Mark Shuttleworth said that development will move more behind closed doors. Did he mean Ubuntu Phone OS with that or will we see some surprises on future desktop releases?
[19:48] <conscioususer_> QUESTION: Are there plans to hire full-time people to accelerate documentation work? Some Ubuntu-exclusive API docs are very lacking compared to, for example, GNOME docs, but usually the response about this is "volunteers welcome"
[19:49] <ProfTwitch> QUESTION: We heard about an icon refresh a while ago and have now seen the new icons for scopes, the BFB, Ubuntu Software Centre, etc. Given you have hired a designer, can we expect to see many more new icons in Raring?
[19:49] <ikons_> Question: so idling on a loco channel to support your local community is hard or makes your day longer?
[19:51] <NONE_OF_THEM> test
[19:51] <popey> success
[19:51] <NONE_OF_THEM> Cheers :-)
[19:52] <JoseeAntonioR> any last questions, guys?
[19:52] <d0od> QUESTION: Did you get to explore much of CES earlier this month?
[19:52] <Cormac-W8KWA> QUESTION: Any guitar playing today?
[19:53] <ProfTwitch> +1 for guitar playing
[19:53] <doctormon> jono: Burn out warning. Surely you should rest more?
[19:53]  * Cormac-W8KWA wants to hear "Unite"
[19:53] <aeonwanderer> +1 for drums :)
[19:54] <ProfTwitch> Also +1 for Jono having family time!
[19:54] <doctormon> ikons_: I look after my child during the day, it hard enough to get time to spend time on the computer now.
[19:54] <ProfTwitch> QUESTION: I often see hilarious stories from parent life. Any funny baby incidents this week?
[19:56] <fruglepie> QUESTION: Will Ubuntu have any adverts in print, internet or TV media?
[19:56] <popey> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[19:56] <popey> not poo stories
[19:56] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: ^
[19:56] <popey> the cardinal sin of new parents
[19:56] <JoseeAntonioR> popey: too late, I think
[19:57] <popey> oh, the same zombie noise jono makes
[19:57] <doctormon> lol, popey, children on breast milk only poo every few days, as much as a week.
[19:57] <popey> like father like son
[19:57] <Cormac-W8KWA> When dipares say 6 pounds... they mean 6 pounds
[19:57] <NONE_OF_THEM> How does Canonical usually pick new employees?
[19:58] <aeonwanderer> Question: whats your favorite beer?
[19:58] <chaselivingston> NONE_OF_THEM: make sure to preface your question with QUESTION:
[19:58] <rZr> QUESTION: Wont it be a good idea to setup a program for existing Meego/Symbian qml devs, we have apps to port to ubuntu ?
[19:58] <deshack> QUESTION: until now, Windows8 has had very few success and we know more and more manufacturers choose Linux. Do you think this is time for Ubuntu to have more success on desktop?
[19:58] <gregfmartin> Question: Is there currently a way to test Ubuntu Phone apps on existing hardware compatible with the Ubuntu Phone/Mobile ROM image? For example, running them on a Nexus 7. Sorry to steer convo back onto a technical track! :)
[19:58] <popey> ooh, was that the cloudy beer, yes, it's yummy
[19:58]  * Cormac-W8KWA had shock top last week... wasnt impressed by it
[19:59] <deshack> thx
[20:00] <Cormac-W8KWA> RE: Brains!
[20:00] <doctormon> Thanks jono
[20:00] <popey> nice to see you dude
[20:00] <d0od> "it's a wrap"
[20:00] <netcurli> thank you
[20:00] <GuidoPallemans> thanks!
[20:00] <Cormac-W8KWA> Thanks Jono
[20:00] <nathanpc> Thanks jono!
[20:00] <ProfTwitch> Good job, Jono :-)
[20:00] <NONE_OF_THEM> Thanks, Jono!
[20:00] <pemibo> Thanks Jono
[20:01] <rZr> thx
[20:01] <KevQuirk> Cheers Jono
[20:01] <snwh> thanks much, jono :)
[20:01] <d0od> So say we all!
[20:02] <popey> thanks JoseeAntonioR
[20:02] <doctormon> Damn video doesn't work on xbmc. Can't wait for Ubuntu TV.
[20:02] <doctormon> (unless it sucks, then I can wait)
[20:02] <JoseeAntonioR> popey: :)
[20:03] <jono> thanks, all!
[20:03] <rZr> jono, going to fosdem ? i guess yes ?
[20:06] <jono> rZr, nope
[20:13] <popey> jono: that beer was delicious, even after the giant pizza of doom (which i finished for breakfast the next day)
[20:14] <jono> popey, LOL
[20:14] <jono> yeah, I love shocktop
[20:14] <jono> the pizza was insane
[20:21] <jamesh_> QUESTION: is Qt now preferred over GTK ?
[20:21] <davidkitchener> Hello from freezing Ontario
[20:22] <rZr> jamesh_, too late ?
[21:11] <DML> QUESTION what programming language do I need to know to develop Ubuntu desktop apps?
[21:12] <JoseeAntonioR> DML: we're not live right now
[22:15] <GuidoPallemans> ubuntuonair.com seems to be off
[22:15] <GuidoPallemans> JoseeAntonioR:
[22:16] <JoseeAntonioR> GuidoPallemans: I know, we're working on it
[22:16] <GuidoPallemans> oh ok