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cprofittanyone here know how to figure out why my printer will not add under 13.04?00:12
cprofittIt detects ok, but then I get a message 'Failed to add new printer' and no more information.00:14
balloonscprofitt, :-(00:17
cprofittthink I found the applicable bug00:18
cprofitthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/110121300:18
ubot5Launchpad bug 1101213 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "G-c-c printing doesn't allow you to select a hp printer" [Undecided,New]00:18
cprofittyep, that one worked for me00:18
cprofittthat one would be a bad one to get to release00:20
balloonsweird00:21
balloonsI have an hp that works00:21
cprofittmy HP worked, just not throught the exposed GUI00:21
balloonsohh00:22
balloonslol..00:22
balloonsit's plugged into my wife's machine00:22
balloonseven though it sits next to mine00:22
balloonshahah00:22
cprofittso system-config-printer worked, but the gnome control center did not00:23
pittiGood morning05:30
balloonsguten morgen pitti06:05
balloonswie geht?06:06
pittihey balloons! gut, danke! und Dir?06:07
balloonsgut.. mon hands? es kalt :-)06:08
pittihaha06:09
balloons;-) my german is 4 days worth of exposure from before last UDS ;-)06:09
balloonsI love the way german sounds.. it has such a soothing cadence to it06:10
pittiballoons: FYI, it's "Meine Hände? Sie sind kalt" (my hands? they are cold)06:24
pittiballoons: really, soothing? with our rather hard vowels and consonants they chose German to alert and train dogs :)06:25
balloonsahh. yes, some french slipped in there.. I do know meine ;-) no idea if it was mein or meine Hände :-)06:25
pittimein is singular, meine is plural06:26
balloonspitti, yes, I guess call me crazy.. I think it sounds cool.. It's not a lullaby though :-)06:26
pitti(or singular feminine)06:26
balloonsahh, danke06:26
balloonswow.. meine is plural and singular feminine06:26
balloonshmmm06:27
balloonsguten nacht pitti.. it's time for me06:27
pittisleep well!06:28
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Noskcajballoons, what's happened to the classroom sessions in my absence? i'm confused07:20
* balloons pretends he's asleep07:20
balloonsNoskcaj, i thought you all switched the times07:20
balloonsperhaps phillw did07:20
Noskcajyeah, something like that. i was away from the internet for 3 days07:21
balloonsgotcha07:22
zygagood morning07:59
jibelgood morning08:00
dholbachgood morning08:34
Noskcaj evening dholbach08:39
dholbachhi Noskcaj08:51
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smartboyhwphillw, ping14:50
phillwhi smartboyhw14:52
smartboyhwphillw, now I will set my session on 6th Feb, 201214:52
smartboyhwOops 2013:P14:52
phillwsmartboyhw: good :) Noskaj popped on earlier, at least he now knows our sessions are not today :)14:54
smartboyhwphillw, LOL15:01
smartboyhwphillw, balloons PING (respond now)15:06
smartboyhwgema also15:08
smartboyhwphillw, balloons gema I just realized that 30th January 2013 is when Ubuntu Developer Week will be held.15:09
smartboyhwNo way we are gonna get into their way15:09
smartboyhwGuess we need to delay it till certain time15:09
gemasmartboyhw:15:25
gemapong15:25
gemasmartboyhw, phillw I don't mind delaying it another week15:25
balloonsyes, I'm not sure who moved the sessions to next weds16:06
balloonsphillw, do you know?16:06
balloonssince udw is going on at the same time, we should probably pick a different day16:07
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zygaballoons, hey17:20
balloonshey zyga17:21
zygaballoons: any update on friendly topics? I wasn't able to track things today17:21
balloonszyga, not yet17:21
balloonsmost folks aren't about yet17:21
zygaping me if something shows up, I'll start posting parts of the friendly prototype for review17:22
balloonskk17:22
antarusIs the UI for Utah just jenkins, or is there a separate UI?17:34
balloonsantarus, there is no UI persay for utah..you define a job, and the output is written to a file.. jenkins is used as a nice way to view the output and execute the jobs.. you could utilize something else if you wished17:50
antarusis this junit XML output then?17:51
balloonsantarus, josepht could tell you more17:56
balloonsif he's about :-)17:57
balloonswhat are you looking to do17:58
balloons?17:58
antarusmostly curious18:01
antaruswe currently use autotest for our QA / testing efforts18:01
antarusand I think we have a..healthy dislike of it18:01
balloonsahh..18:22
balloonswell, utah has a mailing list.. you could certainly get your questions answered by asking on there as well18:22
balloonsantarus, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-utah-devel18:23
antarusok, thanks ;)18:24
xnoxantarus: i think it's yaml.19:40
xnoxantarus: not junit xml.19:40
josephtantarus: xnox is correct19:40
zygaantarus: heh19:47
zygaantarus: there's a milion tools for automatic testing out there19:47
zygaantarus: I believe that plars has experience with autotest19:48
balloonsphillw, ping20:35
phillwhi balloons20:38
phillwgot a re-sched for Jackson.20:38
balloonsahh, yes20:38
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dkesselgood evening!21:45
balloonshey dkessel21:51
balloonshow does tonight find you?21:51
dkesselit finds me... positively tired :)21:52
* dkessel has had his first diving lesson today21:52
balloonsohh.. fun! but tiring21:53
balloonsI've been there.. I hope it's a good tired ;-)21:53
dkesselyup :) prost!21:55
balloonsthomi, you about mate?21:55
Noskcajdkessel, i assume you didn't do a handbrake turn in your first lesson. i had to.21:55
thomiballoons: yup, sure am21:55
thomiwhat's up?21:55
dkesselhandbrake turn?21:55
dkessel*looks that up*21:56
Noskcajdkessel, drift?21:56
Noskcajgo sideways while turning21:56
Noskcajdo any of you guys know about ssd suport in ubuntu?21:57
dkesselah.... no, none of that today. diving in a circle at 3 m depth in the pool was the maximum :)21:57
Noskcajok21:59
balloonsNoskcaj, a little22:02
balloonshello SergioMeneses :-22:03
SergioMenesesballoons, hey hey!22:04
Noskcajballoons, other than the stuff listed here http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/ do you have any suggestions?22:04
SergioMenesesI have email from Carla! o022:05
alesageballoons, did you get a hangout invite?22:05
balloonsI did not22:05
dkesselhmm. i should probably enable trimming22:11
Noskcajdkessel, good idea, and move all your  temp files22:12
dkesselmhh i don't know... wouldn't that use up my memory too much? i only have SSDs on my netbooks with little RAM...22:14
dkesselwho is the guy on the "ubuntu might become a rolling release after 14.04" g+ hangout? http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Ubuntu-Canonical-erwaegt-Umstellung-auf-Rolling-Release-1789862.html22:16
dkesselshould be someone from canonical, probably?22:17
Noskcajdkessel, i was assuming you have a second drive. i have a 1TB caviar black as well as my new agility 322:19
Noskcajrolling release, that sounds interesting. but isn't ubuntu partly rolling anyway?22:20
dkesselwell the development version is :)22:22
dkesseluds-s22:23
dkesseloops22:23
phillwdkessel: I prefer to wait for announcements at UDS... there is that much 'chatter' about what ubuntu is and is not going to do keeps the 'new news' people in updated blogs :D22:23
dkesselphillw, speaking of UDS, the web site does not say yet when or where the next one will be. around what time is that announced normally?22:25
phillwdkessel: It's not been announced yet... No doubt there will be many "breaking stories"... but stay tuned to http://uds.ubuntu.com/ for the facts :)22:28
dkesselphillw: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-s/ says "oakland, california" ;)22:29
phillwdkessel: I was going to say, I expect USA for UDS-S :D22:30
phillwmay be you can raise a bug report :P22:30
dkesselphillw: too bad, I would've loved to attend a UDS once :) if that would even be possible...yeah... i'd file a bug "UDS-S will not be in europe"22:31
phillwdkessel: they are in EU about 1 / 3 times, so it should be back in EU about 14.1022:32
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dkessel...that leaves some time for me to make sure i get the possibility to attend ;)22:35
stgraberphillw: it's more like 1/2 actually, we only had one exception ever where it happened twice in a row in the US22:35
stgraber(for those I attended, it's been: Boston, Prague, Mountain-View, Barcelona, Dallas, Brussels, Orlando, Budapest, Orlando, *Oakland, Copenhagen)22:39
phillwstgraber: I sit corrected :)22:41
stgrabermy memory is a bit fuzzy for those before that as I was only attending remotely, but I think it was: Montreal, Paris and Mountain-View22:41
balloons:-)22:41
balloonsdkessel, we do sponsor folks22:41
balloonsbut yea, you just missed the copenhagen one22:41
stgraberI can't remember what was before Montreal though, might have been Sidney22:41
balloonsprobably close to you22:41
balloonsbtw, that guy in the hangout video is daniel holbach22:41
phillwOne day, they will hold one in London where the UK Canonical office is :)22:41
balloonsgreat chap22:41
balloonshe does ubuntu developer stuff, but dips into qa to help out on the autopkg test22:42
dkesselyeah, copenhagen would have been possible :) ah, that is daniel :) yeah, we had email contact - and some here during the autopkgtest hackfest22:42
balloonsohh btw.. thomi just shared some good news dkessel22:42
stgraberphillw: extremely unlikely, the first few Ubuntu meetings back in 2004/2005 were in the UK but they've moved to cheaper locations since22:42
balloons/usr/share/doc/python-autopilot/html/index.html has the autopilot docs.. the website is missing them because of a build error22:42
balloonsuntil it gets corrected, have a look there22:42
stgraberit's even getting rare to get internal company sprints in London as flying people abroad is cheaper apparently :)22:42
phillwstgraber: yeah, they should try manchester :)22:43
balloonsI was wondering where they all went22:43
dkesselballoons, oh nice - thanks for the hint22:43
balloonsyea.. I'm seriously floored22:43
dkessel... and good job! to thomi :)22:44
balloonsyes, uk oddly enough is more expensive..22:44
thomi:)22:44
balloonssadly the others aren't about.. i'll mail everyone22:44
phillwballoons: from a read back of logs, were you chatting to the lap-top testing team?22:46
balloonsat some point22:46
balloonslol22:46
SergioMenesesballoons, :O22:48
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SergioMenesesand what happened?22:49
balloonsSergioMeneses, carla is going to contact you22:49
dkesselthomi, which autopilot version should the docs say in the bottom left corner? 0.1 or 1.1?22:49
balloonsyour going to be part of the session22:50
thomidkessel: let me check, one sec22:50
SergioMenesesballoons, sure, Im answering her email back22:50
phillwSergioMeneses: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_422:50
SergioMenesesphillw, we are working on that22:51
SergioMeneses:)22:51
SergioMeneseswe shall met tomorrow22:51
phillwSergioMeneses: that is great news. Whilst I'm not the the admin for the sessions, it seems to have been a bit of mission creep for me :D22:52
thomidkessel: there's a small bug in the docs - it's not reading the version number from the package.... Should be easy enough to fix though.22:52
thomidkesselhowever, the docs in /usr/share/doc/python-autopilot/ are generated for each build, so they're *guaranteed* to be relevant for the version of autopilot that you have insstalled22:52
balloonsphillw, haha!22:53
SergioMenesesphillw, jajaja a bit!22:53
dkesselthomi, sorry to say that - but what about the API docs? ;)22:55
dkesselah well. good night. i should really be in bed already23:01

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