=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [00:12] anyone here know how to figure out why my printer will not add under 13.04? [00:14] It detects ok, but then I get a message 'Failed to add new printer' and no more information. [00:17] cprofitt, :-( [00:18] think I found the applicable bug [00:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1101213 [00:18] Launchpad bug 1101213 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "G-c-c printing doesn't allow you to select a hp printer" [Undecided,New] [00:18] yep, that one worked for me [00:20] that one would be a bad one to get to release [00:21] weird [00:21] I have an hp that works [00:21] my HP worked, just not throught the exposed GUI [00:22] ohh [00:22] lol.. [00:22] it's plugged into my wife's machine [00:22] even though it sits next to mine [00:22] hahah [00:23] so system-config-printer worked, but the gnome control center did not [05:30] Good morning [06:05] guten morgen pitti [06:06] wie geht? [06:07] hey balloons! gut, danke! und Dir? [06:08] gut.. mon hands? es kalt :-) [06:09] haha [06:09] ;-) my german is 4 days worth of exposure from before last UDS ;-) [06:10] I love the way german sounds.. it has such a soothing cadence to it [06:24] balloons: FYI, it's "Meine Hände? Sie sind kalt" (my hands? they are cold) [06:25] balloons: really, soothing? with our rather hard vowels and consonants they chose German to alert and train dogs :) [06:25] ahh. yes, some french slipped in there.. I do know meine ;-) no idea if it was mein or meine Hände :-) [06:26] mein is singular, meine is plural [06:26] pitti, yes, I guess call me crazy.. I think it sounds cool.. It's not a lullaby though :-) [06:26] (or singular feminine) [06:26] ahh, danke [06:26] wow.. meine is plural and singular feminine [06:27] hmmm [06:27] guten nacht pitti.. it's time for me [06:28] sleep well! === BEC is now known as alpha_ === alpha_ is now known as BEC [07:20] balloons, what's happened to the classroom sessions in my absence? i'm confused [07:20] * balloons pretends he's asleep [07:20] Noskcaj, i thought you all switched the times [07:20] perhaps phillw did [07:21] yeah, something like that. i was away from the internet for 3 days [07:22] gotcha [07:59] good morning [08:00] good morning [08:34] good morning [08:39] evening dholbach [08:51] hi Noskcaj === yofel_ is now known as yofel === _salem is now known as salem_ === Ursinha_ is now known as Ursinha [14:50] phillw, ping [14:52] hi smartboyhw [14:52] phillw, now I will set my session on 6th Feb, 2012 [14:52] Oops 2013:P [14:54] smartboyhw: good :) Noskaj popped on earlier, at least he now knows our sessions are not today :) [15:01] phillw, LOL [15:06] phillw, balloons PING (respond now) [15:08] gema also [15:09] phillw, balloons gema I just realized that 30th January 2013 is when Ubuntu Developer Week will be held. [15:09] No way we are gonna get into their way [15:09] Guess we need to delay it till certain time [15:25] smartboyhw: [15:25] pong [15:25] smartboyhw, phillw I don't mind delaying it another week [16:06] yes, I'm not sure who moved the sessions to next weds [16:06] phillw, do you know? [16:07] since udw is going on at the same time, we should probably pick a different day === salem_ is now known as _salem === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:20] balloons, hey [17:21] hey zyga [17:21] balloons: any update on friendly topics? I wasn't able to track things today [17:21] zyga, not yet [17:21] most folks aren't about yet [17:22] ping me if something shows up, I'll start posting parts of the friendly prototype for review [17:22] kk [17:34] Is the UI for Utah just jenkins, or is there a separate UI? [17:50] antarus, there is no UI persay for utah..you define a job, and the output is written to a file.. jenkins is used as a nice way to view the output and execute the jobs.. you could utilize something else if you wished [17:51] is this junit XML output then? [17:56] antarus, josepht could tell you more [17:57] if he's about :-) [17:58] what are you looking to do [17:58] ? [18:01] mostly curious [18:01] we currently use autotest for our QA / testing efforts [18:01] and I think we have a..healthy dislike of it [18:22] ahh.. [18:22] well, utah has a mailing list.. you could certainly get your questions answered by asking on there as well [18:23] antarus, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-utah-devel [18:24] ok, thanks ;) [19:40] antarus: i think it's yaml. [19:40] antarus: not junit xml. [19:40] antarus: xnox is correct [19:47] antarus: heh [19:47] antarus: there's a milion tools for automatic testing out there [19:48] antarus: I believe that plars has experience with autotest [20:35] phillw, ping [20:38] hi balloons [20:38] got a re-sched for Jackson. [20:38] ahh, yes === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:45] good evening! [21:51] hey dkessel [21:51] how does tonight find you? [21:52] it finds me... positively tired :) [21:52] * dkessel has had his first diving lesson today [21:53] ohh.. fun! but tiring [21:53] I've been there.. I hope it's a good tired ;-) [21:55] yup :) prost! [21:55] thomi, you about mate? [21:55] dkessel, i assume you didn't do a handbrake turn in your first lesson. i had to. [21:55] balloons: yup, sure am [21:55] what's up? [21:55] handbrake turn? [21:56] *looks that up* [21:56] dkessel, drift? [21:56] go sideways while turning [21:57] do any of you guys know about ssd suport in ubuntu? [21:57] ah.... no, none of that today. diving in a circle at 3 m depth in the pool was the maximum :) [21:59] ok [22:02] Noskcaj, a little [22:03] hello SergioMeneses :- [22:04] balloons, hey hey! [22:04] balloons, other than the stuff listed here http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/ do you have any suggestions? [22:05] I have email from Carla! o0 [22:05] balloons, did you get a hangout invite? [22:05] I did not [22:11] hmm. i should probably enable trimming [22:12] dkessel, good idea, and move all your temp files [22:14] mhh i don't know... wouldn't that use up my memory too much? i only have SSDs on my netbooks with little RAM... [22:16] who is the guy on the "ubuntu might become a rolling release after 14.04" g+ hangout? http://www.heise.de/open/meldung/Ubuntu-Canonical-erwaegt-Umstellung-auf-Rolling-Release-1789862.html [22:17] should be someone from canonical, probably? [22:19] dkessel, i was assuming you have a second drive. i have a 1TB caviar black as well as my new agility 3 [22:20] rolling release, that sounds interesting. but isn't ubuntu partly rolling anyway? [22:22] well the development version is :) [22:23] uds-s [22:23] oops [22:23] dkessel: I prefer to wait for announcements at UDS... there is that much 'chatter' about what ubuntu is and is not going to do keeps the 'new news' people in updated blogs :D [22:25] phillw, speaking of UDS, the web site does not say yet when or where the next one will be. around what time is that announced normally? [22:28] dkessel: It's not been announced yet... No doubt there will be many "breaking stories"... but stay tuned to http://uds.ubuntu.com/ for the facts :) [22:29] phillw: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-s/ says "oakland, california" ;) [22:30] dkessel: I was going to say, I expect USA for UDS-S :D [22:30] may be you can raise a bug report :P [22:31] phillw: too bad, I would've loved to attend a UDS once :) if that would even be possible...yeah... i'd file a bug "UDS-S will not be in europe" [22:32] dkessel: they are in EU about 1 / 3 times, so it should be back in EU about 14.10 === Noskcaj is now known as Noskcaj_afk [22:35] ...that leaves some time for me to make sure i get the possibility to attend ;) [22:35] phillw: it's more like 1/2 actually, we only had one exception ever where it happened twice in a row in the US [22:39] (for those I attended, it's been: Boston, Prague, Mountain-View, Barcelona, Dallas, Brussels, Orlando, Budapest, Orlando, *Oakland, Copenhagen) [22:41] stgraber: I sit corrected :) [22:41] my memory is a bit fuzzy for those before that as I was only attending remotely, but I think it was: Montreal, Paris and Mountain-View [22:41] :-) [22:41] dkessel, we do sponsor folks [22:41] but yea, you just missed the copenhagen one [22:41] I can't remember what was before Montreal though, might have been Sidney [22:41] probably close to you [22:41] btw, that guy in the hangout video is daniel holbach [22:41] One day, they will hold one in London where the UK Canonical office is :) [22:41] great chap [22:42] he does ubuntu developer stuff, but dips into qa to help out on the autopkg test [22:42] yeah, copenhagen would have been possible :) ah, that is daniel :) yeah, we had email contact - and some here during the autopkgtest hackfest [22:42] ohh btw.. thomi just shared some good news dkessel [22:42] phillw: extremely unlikely, the first few Ubuntu meetings back in 2004/2005 were in the UK but they've moved to cheaper locations since [22:42] /usr/share/doc/python-autopilot/html/index.html has the autopilot docs.. the website is missing them because of a build error [22:42] until it gets corrected, have a look there [22:42] it's even getting rare to get internal company sprints in London as flying people abroad is cheaper apparently :) [22:43] stgraber: yeah, they should try manchester :) [22:43] I was wondering where they all went [22:43] balloons, oh nice - thanks for the hint [22:43] yea.. I'm seriously floored [22:44] ... and good job! to thomi :) [22:44] yes, uk oddly enough is more expensive.. [22:44] :) [22:44] sadly the others aren't about.. i'll mail everyone [22:46] balloons: from a read back of logs, were you chatting to the lap-top testing team? [22:46] at some point [22:46] lol [22:48] balloons, :O === toddyhb is now known as toddy [22:49] and what happened? [22:49] SergioMeneses, carla is going to contact you [22:49] thomi, which autopilot version should the docs say in the bottom left corner? 0.1 or 1.1? [22:50] your going to be part of the session [22:50] dkessel: let me check, one sec [22:50] balloons, sure, Im answering her email back [22:50] SergioMeneses: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_4 [22:51] phillw, we are working on that [22:51] :) [22:51] we shall met tomorrow [22:52] SergioMeneses: that is great news. Whilst I'm not the the admin for the sessions, it seems to have been a bit of mission creep for me :D [22:52] dkessel: there's a small bug in the docs - it's not reading the version number from the package.... Should be easy enough to fix though. [22:52] dkesselhowever, the docs in /usr/share/doc/python-autopilot/ are generated for each build, so they're *guaranteed* to be relevant for the version of autopilot that you have insstalled [22:53] phillw, haha! [22:53] phillw, jajaja a bit! [22:55] thomi, sorry to say that - but what about the API docs? ;) [23:01] ah well. good night. i should really be in bed already