rmg51 | when will it all end? | 02:13 |
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rmg51 | JonathanD: make it stop :P | 02:13 |
rmg51 | I guess we have this to look forward to all night :-/ | 02:51 |
pleia2 | hopefully that will sort it | 03:06 |
rmg51 | that seems to have worked | 03:16 |
rmg51 | at least for the last 10 minutes | 03:16 |
rmg51 | Morning | 10:40 |
JonathanD | Morning. | 10:42 |
waltman | Morning. | 12:23 |
jedijf | Morning. | 12:24 |
teddy-dbear | Morning peoples | 13:07 |
InHisName | morning again | 16:24 |
ChinnoDog | morning happens every day | 17:26 |
teddy-dbear | not if you sleep through it :-[ | 17:33 |
InHisName | afternoon, gents | 17:40 |
ChinnoDog | I'm pretty sure morning happens even if you aren't awake for it. | 18:08 |
Samuraialba | good bacon to all and to all some good bacon! | 18:38 |
waltman | mmm, bacon | 18:39 |
Samuraialba | How is everything going? | 18:39 |
waltman | I'm lacking bacon. | 18:39 |
Samuraialba | You need to go get some | 18:48 |
MutantTurkish | so... If I inherited a linux desktop with a password .... | 19:18 |
MutantTurkish | can I get access to it? | 19:18 |
mn2010 | we are all lacking proper amounts of bacon | 19:19 |
mn2010 | yes | 19:19 |
mn2010 | there is cracking tools for gnu-linux | 19:19 |
mn2010 | but it needs to have sshd or a unprivilaged account to access from a tty | 19:19 |
waltman | "inherited" :) | 19:22 |
MutantTurkish | neither | 19:24 |
MutantTurkish | worse case scenario is that I just boot a live cd, and do a chroot right? | 19:25 |
MutantTurkish | or just look at the guys stuff and wipe it out? | 19:26 |
ChinnoDog | I don't understand the goal MutantTurkish. Are you trying to get access to his stuff or just repurpose the desktop? | 19:29 |
jedijf | MutantTurkish: boot single user | 19:29 |
jedijf | MutantTurkish: change boot line init=/bin/sh | 19:30 |
jedijf | MutantTurkish: physical acees is ownership | 19:30 |
jedijf | acess too - merhaba | 19:30 |
jedijf | access | 19:30 |
jedijf | 3 | 19:30 |
jedijf | look then wipe - that's what i usually do | 19:32 |
jedijf | everytime i dont look, i wonder what i've missed | 19:32 |
MutantTurkish | right on | 19:33 |
MutantTurkish | or could I just gain access and use? | 19:33 |
MutantTurkish | I mean... it's already setup with squeeze | 19:33 |
MutantTurkish | where do I add the init? | 19:33 |
MutantTurkish | on the end of linux /asdjfsajflksf or the end of initrd asdfjsadfjsadf | 19:33 |
MutantTurkish | jedijf: ^ | 19:34 |
jedijf | google it | 19:35 |
jedijf | linux though | 19:35 |
jedijf | haha | 19:35 |
jedijf | what distro though single is easiest if non ubu | 19:35 |
mn2010 | im assuming they were smart enough to ENCRYPT there storage or use LVM... that makes chroot or switching shell pointless | 19:36 |
MutantTurkish | mn2010: would you bother to do that? | 19:36 |
MutantTurkish | jedijf: and my keyboard is ix'd when I do htat... I guess usb support kicks in later? | 19:37 |
jedijf | MutantTurkish: bios | 19:38 |
jedijf | or add usb in kernel line | 19:39 |
jedijf | or ps2 | 19:39 |
jedijf | or look for 'recovery' or single user | 19:39 |
jedijf | try single instead of init=..... | 19:41 |
jedijf | if single or recovery not present | 19:41 |
MutantTurkish | single user prompts for root passwd | 19:42 |
jedijf | k, then init= | 19:42 |
MutantTurkish | init= what? | 19:42 |
jedijf | find ps2 or turn on usb in bios | 19:42 |
MutantTurkish | sorry I am feeling sluggish | 19:42 |
jedijf | init=/bin/sh | 19:42 |
MutantTurkish | ther is no ps2 port. | 19:42 |
jedijf | bios | 19:42 |
MutantTurkish | k | 19:42 |
MutantTurkish | the weird thing is that the keyboard works up until I boot | 19:43 |
MutantTurkish | but I can edit grub and all | 19:43 |
jedijf | that is odd | 19:43 |
MutantTurkish | maybe I can manually specify the drivers/ | 19:43 |
MutantTurkish | ? | 19:43 |
jedijf | MutantTurkish: you can | 19:46 |
MutantTurkish | how? google is being a bastard | 19:46 |
MutantTurkish | jedijf:what about chrooting in? | 19:46 |
jedijf | insmod in grub iirc | 19:53 |
MutantTurkish | insmod only works with grubs modules:/ | 19:53 |
MutantTurkish | you can specify video drivers | 19:53 |
MutantTurkish | well it's a known kernel bug | 19:53 |
MutantTurkish | so I think I'll just poke around during the livcd | 19:53 |
jedijf | you can do that too | 19:54 |
MutantTurkish | works out the same I suppose | 19:56 |
MutantTurkish | yeesh specrtwm with xrandr is scary | 20:18 |
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ChinnoDog | I ordered a refurbished drive from NewEgg last night. I hope it is not junk. | 20:24 |
MutantTurkish | ChinnoDog: good luckl | 20:24 |
ChinnoDog | WD 1.5GB with 64MB cache for $62.99. | 20:25 |
MutantTurkish | ? | 20:28 |
MutantTurkish | what.... | 20:28 |
MutantTurkish | 1.5Tb right? | 20:28 |
MutantTurkish | eeek the debian installer won't even let me mount it | 20:28 |
MutantTurkish | grrr | 20:38 |
MutantTurkish | it's like arguing with a child! | 20:40 |
MutantTurkish | except this child is debian | 20:43 |
MutantTurkish | is there a way to tell if it's encrypted? I can't seem to mount any of this stuff | 20:45 |
ChinnoDog | If you are using hardware based full disk encryption then the disk needs a password. Your BIOS would have to support FDE. | 20:48 |
ChinnoDog | If it is using software encryption then idk | 20:48 |
* waltman notes that this is why he doesn't use FDE :) | 20:50 | |
ChinnoDog | FDE seems good in principle | 20:53 |
ChinnoDog | It certainly makes life easier when it works. No software encryption necessary and no performance degredation. | 20:54 |
ChinnoDog | And no need to wipe disks before disposing of them. | 20:55 |
ChinnoDog | Well, I guess that isn't really true. There is the secure erase command to use for that though. | 20:55 |
waltman | I just get scared about losing a password, or that standard diagnostic tools/methods might not work. | 20:57 |
ChinnoDog | With hardware FDE the diagnostic tools are unaware of the encryption. They will all work | 20:57 |
ChinnoDog | With software encryption you have to jump through hoops | 20:57 |
MutantTurkish | nice I'm in | 21:43 |
MutantTurkish | now I just need to copy all this junk to my own usb drive... | 21:44 |
MutantTurkish | but my usb drive is where my system is currently operating from. | 21:44 |
MutantTurkish | sadjfa'sg | 21:44 |
jedijf | oh MutantTurkish congrats on the job - now you need *the* book - formerly pink, now purple - pleia2 what's the exact title? | 21:46 |
MutantTurkish | thank you | 21:46 |
pleia2 | admin.com | 21:46 |
pleia2 | it's <3 <3 | 21:46 |
MutantTurkish | thanks | 21:51 |
MutantTurkish | highly recommended? | 21:51 |
MutantTurkish | 45 bucks... | 21:51 |
MutantTurkish | is there a good program that I can use to visually inspect my servers | 21:54 |
MutantTurkish | have several servers, i'd like a nice big GUI to say "yes everythngs ok!" | 21:54 |
MutantTurkish | xcowsay "Don't Panic" | 21:54 |
pleia2 | it's the best book | 21:55 |
MutantTurkish | good! I'll put it on my list | 21:56 |
* ChinnoDog takes note | 21:56 | |
MutantTurkish | jedijf: I am in.... | 21:56 |
MutantTurkish | time to download all his stuff and sort through it | 21:56 |
MutantTurkish | ahh it's like a 8 gig tarball arleady. | 21:58 |
ChinnoDog | Why are you rifling through his stuff? | 21:58 |
ChinnoDog | note to self: do not give MutantTurkish hard drives that have not been zeroed out | 22:00 |
jedijf | human nature..why why | 23:12 |
waltman | http://www.flickr.com/photos/85201403@N00/8408786727/ | 23:15 |
pleia2 | :( | 23:16 |
waltman | it almost caught fire :) | 23:18 |
pleia2 | I bet! | 23:18 |
jedijf | waltman: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f2d6/?cpg=50851246&msg_id=50851246&et_rid=523162386&linkid=50851246_text_f2d6 | 23:18 |
waltman | the UPS was beeping most angrily | 23:18 |
waltman | jedijf: huh | 23:19 |
jedijf | you like the sauce - everyone likes chocolate | 23:20 |
waltman | but I'm not sure of the combination... | 23:20 |
jedijf | seems better then the bacon chocolate sauce | 23:21 |
pleia2 | spicy chocolate is all the rage | 23:21 |
waltman | but garlicy spicy chocolate? | 23:21 |
pleia2 | maybe! | 23:22 |
pleia2 | I thought we were getting over bacon madness, but then I went to a place that had bacon lobster mac&cheese | 23:22 |
pleia2 | why would you do that?! | 23:22 |
pleia2 | ruin perfectly good lobster mac&cheese | 23:23 |
jedijf | pleia2: that seems like a win | 23:27 |
jedijf | is this marriage thing interfering with that combo? | 23:27 |
pleia2 | it's very american to take it that far :) | 23:27 |
pleia2 | well, lobster would already be off the table | 23:28 |
jedijf | true | 23:28 |
jedijf | but that's a less followed jawn | 23:28 |
pleia2 | but we're serving steak and scallops at our wedding, so I don't know what we do :) | 23:28 |
pleia2 | just no pork | 23:28 |
jedijf | see, the scallops wrapped in da pork are common and why i said the other seemed like a natural | 23:28 |
pleia2 | we asked the rabbi doing the ceremoney if he needed a kosher meal and he was like "ahahaha, kosher." | 23:28 |
pleia2 | well ok | 23:28 |
pleia2 | :) | 23:28 |
jedijf | ham hoagies | 23:29 |
jedijf | \o/ | 23:29 |
pleia2 | I never really cared for ham | 23:29 |
pleia2 | I do miss pepperoni, but pizza in general is pretty much off my pre-wedding diet anywya | 23:29 |
jedijf | they have turkey everything now anyway | 23:29 |
pleia2 | mostly yeah | 23:30 |
jedijf | i was at the new andy's around the corner from mj's grandmoms old spot and the turkey sausage inventory was double the pork | 23:32 |
jedijf | today | 23:32 |
waltman | aren't scallops technically 'shellfish'? | 23:32 |
pleia2 | yes | 23:33 |
jedijf | see | 23:33 |
waltman | I don't judge :) | 23:33 |
jedijf | kosher rules are like this: shrimp is shellfish; shrimps aren't | 23:33 |
pleia2 | we thought about doing things properly dietary-wise at the wedding, but since we just do "no pork" we decided that's the only rule we'll follow for this too | 23:33 |
pleia2 | also, I love boiling animals in their mother's milk, so... | 23:34 |
pleia2 | mmm cheesesteaks | 23:34 |
jedijf | and it can make you crazy....like pumpkin..is it parve... | 23:34 |
pleia2 | passover is hard | 23:34 |
jedijf | matzah meal sucks and explodes | 23:34 |
pleia2 | it's ok if you cover it with cheese | 23:35 |
jedijf | so glad i don't do passover cakes(if you want to call them that) anymore | 23:35 |
jedijf | even though it was big money, until the supermarkets killed the margin and really, is there a good passover cake? | 23:35 |
pleia2 | no | 23:35 |
jedijf | every 3 or so years, i lie to myself and try again because the names are enticing | 23:36 |
waltman | So anyway, we had 4 computers running at 100% and sucking around 500W each, all going through that one power strip. | 23:36 |
jedijf | waltman: no fuses on those belkins? | 23:37 |
waltman | We were wondering the same thing! | 23:37 |
pleia2 | actually amazing that sort of thing doesn't happen more often | 23:38 |
jedijf | yeah power strips are the new outlet octopus | 23:38 |
jedijf | but makes everyone feel better | 23:38 |
waltman | We were basically using one of the strips as an extension cord into the second one, which was plugged into the wall. | 23:39 |
jedijf | that's a fire code violation | 23:39 |
waltman | (we're rewiring things tomorrow) | 23:39 |
* jedijf has been cited | 23:39 | |
pleia2 | jedijf: otherwise known as "good idea at the time" | 23:39 |
jedijf | codes shmodes | 23:39 |
jedijf | can't even use an extension cord to a strip | 23:40 |
jedijf | strip to wall | 23:40 |
jedijf | hmmm | 23:40 |
jedijf | waltman: well thanks, now i won't get mad when i get cited | 23:41 |
jedijf | he doesn't even cite me anymore, just shakes his head | 23:41 |
* waltman notes that he let the electrical engineering grad students in his lab design the wiring :) | 23:43 | |
jedijf | it does seem like double protection - assuming they were fuse protected | 23:43 |
waltman | We were 200W over spec | 23:44 |
jedijf | did equip get fried or just the outlet strip | 23:46 |
waltman | just the strip. | 23:49 |
jedijf | so that's a win | 23:49 |
waltman | nod | 23:51 |
waltman | the computers were running off a ups | 23:52 |
waltman | it was mainly the ups that was sucking up the juice | 23:52 |
waltman | UPSs | 23:52 |
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