/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/01/23/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

rmg51when will it all end?02:13
rmg51JonathanD: make it stop :P02:13
rmg51I guess we have this to look forward to all night :-/02:51
pleia2hopefully that will sort it03:06
rmg51that seems to have worked03:16
rmg51at least for the last 10 minutes03:16
rmg51Morning10:40
JonathanDMorning.10:42
waltmanMorning.12:23
jedijfMorning.12:24
teddy-dbearMorning peoples13:07
InHisNamemorning again16:24
ChinnoDogmorning happens every day17:26
teddy-dbearnot if you sleep through it :-[17:33
InHisNameafternoon, gents17:40
ChinnoDogI'm pretty sure morning happens even if you aren't awake for it.18:08
Samuraialbagood bacon to all and to all some good bacon!18:38
waltmanmmm, bacon18:39
SamuraialbaHow is everything going?18:39
waltmanI'm lacking bacon.18:39
SamuraialbaYou need to go get some18:48
MutantTurkishso... If I inherited a linux desktop with a password ....19:18
MutantTurkishcan I get access to it?19:18
mn2010we are all lacking proper amounts of bacon19:19
mn2010yes19:19
mn2010there is cracking tools for gnu-linux19:19
mn2010but it needs to have sshd or a unprivilaged account to access from a tty19:19
waltman"inherited" :)19:22
MutantTurkishneither19:24
MutantTurkishworse case scenario is that I just boot a live cd, and do a chroot right?19:25
MutantTurkishor just look at the guys stuff and wipe it out?19:26
ChinnoDogI don't understand the goal MutantTurkish. Are you trying to get access to his stuff or just repurpose the desktop?19:29
jedijfMutantTurkish: boot single user19:29
jedijfMutantTurkish: change boot line init=/bin/sh19:30
jedijfMutantTurkish: physical acees is ownership19:30
jedijfacess too - merhaba19:30
jedijfaccess19:30
jedijf319:30
jedijflook then wipe - that's what i usually do19:32
jedijfeverytime i dont look, i wonder what i've missed19:32
MutantTurkishright on19:33
MutantTurkishor could I just gain access and use?19:33
MutantTurkishI mean... it's already setup with squeeze19:33
MutantTurkish where do I add the init?19:33
MutantTurkishon the end of linux /asdjfsajflksf or the end of initrd asdfjsadfjsadf19:33
MutantTurkishjedijf: ^19:34
jedijfgoogle it19:35
jedijflinux though19:35
jedijfhaha19:35
jedijfwhat distro though single is easiest if non ubu19:35
mn2010im assuming they were smart enough to ENCRYPT there storage or use LVM... that makes chroot or switching shell pointless19:36
MutantTurkishmn2010: would you bother to do that?19:36
MutantTurkishjedijf: and my keyboard is ix'd when I do htat... I guess usb support kicks in later?19:37
jedijfMutantTurkish: bios19:38
jedijfor add usb in kernel line19:39
jedijfor ps219:39
jedijfor look for 'recovery' or single user19:39
jedijftry single instead of init=.....19:41
jedijfif single or recovery not present19:41
MutantTurkishsingle user prompts for root passwd19:42
jedijfk, then init=19:42
MutantTurkishinit= what?19:42
jedijffind ps2 or turn on usb in bios19:42
MutantTurkishsorry I am feeling sluggish19:42
jedijfinit=/bin/sh19:42
MutantTurkishther is no ps2 port.19:42
jedijfbios19:42
MutantTurkishk19:42
MutantTurkishthe weird thing is that the keyboard works up until I boot19:43
MutantTurkishbut I can edit grub and all19:43
jedijfthat is odd19:43
MutantTurkishmaybe I can manually specify the drivers/19:43
MutantTurkish?19:43
jedijfMutantTurkish: you can19:46
MutantTurkishhow? google is being a bastard19:46
MutantTurkishjedijf:what about chrooting in?19:46
jedijfinsmod in grub iirc19:53
MutantTurkishinsmod only works with grubs modules:/19:53
MutantTurkishyou can specify video drivers19:53
MutantTurkishwell it's a known kernel  bug19:53
MutantTurkishso I think I'll just poke around during the livcd19:53
jedijfyou can do that too19:54
MutantTurkishworks out the same I suppose19:56
MutantTurkishyeesh specrtwm with xrandr is scary20:18
=== InHisName1 is now known as HowdyDoody
ChinnoDogI ordered a refurbished drive from NewEgg last night. I hope it is not junk.20:24
MutantTurkishChinnoDog: good luckl20:24
ChinnoDogWD 1.5GB with 64MB cache for $62.99.20:25
MutantTurkish?20:28
MutantTurkishwhat....20:28
MutantTurkish1.5Tb right?20:28
MutantTurkisheeek the debian installer won't even let me mount it20:28
MutantTurkishgrrr20:38
MutantTurkishit's like arguing with a child!20:40
MutantTurkishexcept this child is debian20:43
MutantTurkishis there a way to tell if it's encrypted? I can't seem to mount any of this stuff20:45
ChinnoDogIf you are using hardware based full disk  encryption then the disk needs a password. Your BIOS would have to support FDE.20:48
ChinnoDogIf it is using software encryption then idk20:48
* waltman notes that this is why he doesn't use FDE :)20:50
ChinnoDogFDE seems good in principle20:53
ChinnoDogIt certainly makes life easier when it works. No software encryption necessary and no performance degredation.20:54
ChinnoDogAnd no need to wipe disks before disposing of them.20:55
ChinnoDogWell, I guess that isn't really true. There is the secure erase command to use for that though.20:55
waltmanI just get scared about losing a password, or that standard diagnostic tools/methods might not work.20:57
ChinnoDogWith hardware FDE the diagnostic tools are unaware of the encryption. They will all work20:57
ChinnoDogWith software encryption you have to jump through hoops20:57
MutantTurkishnice I'm in21:43
MutantTurkishnow I just need to copy all this junk to my own usb drive...21:44
MutantTurkishbut my usb drive is where my system is currently operating from.21:44
MutantTurkishsadjfa'sg21:44
jedijfoh MutantTurkish congrats on the job - now you need *the* book - formerly pink, now purple - pleia2 what's the exact title?21:46
MutantTurkishthank you21:46
pleia2admin.com21:46
pleia2it's <3 <321:46
MutantTurkishthanks21:51
MutantTurkishhighly recommended?21:51
MutantTurkish45 bucks...21:51
MutantTurkishis there a good program that I can use to visually inspect my servers21:54
MutantTurkishhave several servers, i'd like a nice big GUI to say "yes everythngs ok!"21:54
MutantTurkishxcowsay "Don't Panic"21:54
pleia2it's the best book21:55
MutantTurkishgood! I'll put it on my list21:56
* ChinnoDog takes note21:56
MutantTurkishjedijf: I am in....21:56
MutantTurkishtime to download all his stuff and sort through it21:56
MutantTurkishahh it's like a 8 gig tarball arleady.21:58
ChinnoDogWhy are you rifling through his stuff?21:58
ChinnoDognote to self: do not give MutantTurkish hard drives that have not been zeroed out22:00
jedijfhuman nature..why why23:12
waltmanhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/85201403@N00/8408786727/23:15
pleia2:(23:16
waltmanit almost caught fire :)23:18
pleia2I bet!23:18
jedijfwaltman: http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f2d6/?cpg=50851246&msg_id=50851246&et_rid=523162386&linkid=50851246_text_f2d623:18
waltmanthe UPS was beeping most angrily23:18
waltmanjedijf: huh23:19
jedijfyou like the sauce - everyone likes chocolate23:20
waltmanbut I'm not sure of the combination...23:20
jedijfseems better then the bacon chocolate sauce23:21
pleia2spicy chocolate is all the rage23:21
waltmanbut garlicy spicy chocolate?23:21
pleia2maybe!23:22
pleia2I thought we were getting over bacon madness, but then I went to a place that had bacon lobster mac&cheese23:22
pleia2why would you do that?!23:22
pleia2ruin perfectly good lobster mac&cheese23:23
jedijfpleia2: that seems like a win23:27
jedijfis this marriage thing interfering with that combo?23:27
pleia2it's very american to take it that far :)23:27
pleia2well, lobster would already be off the table23:28
jedijftrue23:28
jedijfbut that's a less followed jawn23:28
pleia2but we're serving steak and scallops at our wedding, so I don't know what we do :)23:28
pleia2just no pork23:28
jedijfsee, the scallops wrapped in da pork are common and why i said the other seemed like a natural23:28
pleia2we asked the rabbi doing the ceremoney if he needed a kosher meal and he was like "ahahaha, kosher."23:28
pleia2well ok23:28
pleia2:)23:28
jedijfham hoagies23:29
jedijf\o/23:29
pleia2I never really cared for ham23:29
pleia2I do miss pepperoni, but pizza in general is pretty much off my pre-wedding diet anywya23:29
jedijfthey have turkey everything now anyway23:29
pleia2mostly yeah23:30
jedijfi was at the new andy's around the corner from mj's grandmoms old spot and the turkey sausage inventory was double the pork23:32
jedijftoday23:32
waltmanaren't scallops technically 'shellfish'?23:32
pleia2yes23:33
jedijfsee23:33
waltmanI don't judge :)23:33
jedijfkosher rules are like this: shrimp is shellfish; shrimps aren't23:33
pleia2we thought about doing things properly dietary-wise at the wedding, but since we just do "no pork" we decided that's the only rule we'll follow for this too23:33
pleia2also, I love boiling animals in their mother's milk, so...23:34
pleia2mmm cheesesteaks23:34
jedijfand it can make you crazy....like pumpkin..is it parve...23:34
pleia2passover is hard23:34
jedijfmatzah meal sucks and explodes23:34
pleia2it's ok if you cover it with cheese23:35
jedijfso glad i don't do passover cakes(if you want to call them that) anymore23:35
jedijfeven though it was big money, until the supermarkets killed the margin and really, is there a good passover cake?23:35
pleia2no23:35
jedijfevery 3 or so years, i lie to myself and try again because the names are enticing23:36
waltmanSo anyway, we had 4 computers running at 100% and sucking around 500W each, all going through that one power strip.23:36
jedijfwaltman: no fuses on those belkins?23:37
waltmanWe were wondering the same thing!23:37
pleia2actually amazing that sort of thing doesn't happen more often23:38
jedijfyeah power strips are the new outlet octopus23:38
jedijfbut makes everyone feel better23:38
waltmanWe were basically using one of the strips as an extension cord into the second one, which was plugged into the wall.23:39
jedijfthat's a fire code violation23:39
waltman(we're rewiring things tomorrow)23:39
* jedijf has been cited23:39
pleia2jedijf: otherwise known as "good idea at the time"23:39
jedijfcodes shmodes23:39
jedijfcan't even use an extension cord to a strip23:40
jedijfstrip to wall23:40
jedijfhmmm23:40
jedijfwaltman: well thanks, now i won't get mad when i get cited23:41
jedijfhe doesn't even cite me anymore, just shakes his head23:41
* waltman notes that he let the electrical engineering grad students in his lab design the wiring :)23:43
jedijfit does seem like double protection - assuming they were fuse protected23:43
waltmanWe were 200W over spec23:44
jedijfdid equip get fried or just the outlet strip23:46
waltmanjust the strip.23:49
jedijfso that's a win23:49
waltmannod23:51
waltmanthe computers were running off a ups23:52
waltmanit was mainly the ups that was sucking up the juice23:52
waltmanUPSs23:52

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