[00:00] <Sgt_Shultz> Look ColW
[00:00] <Sgt_Shultz> oops
[00:01] <Ben64> XMLnewbi: if you have the normal install of apache, you can just put basic configs into sites-available and sites-enabled
[00:02] <seamus_> Whenever I scroll or backspace past the end of a text, I get a loud beep that isn't controlled by anything in my sound settings. I'm running GNOME Classic on Lubuntu 12.10. What should I try?
[00:04] <Sgt_Shultz> a shorter beep & u got morse ...
[00:04] <cmdr> jmd deutsch?
[00:04] <k1l_> cmdr: wir haben einen deutschen channel: #ubuntu-de
[00:05] <shortstraw8> what is the correct way to unpack a tar.gz file cause upack200 is not working
[00:05] <Ben64> tar zxfv blah.tar.gz
[00:05] <k1l_> !rootirc > cmdr
[00:05] <seamus_> Do it again and I get remorse. Seriously, the beep is way louder than any other sounds. x(
[00:05] <hays> is there an irc channel for chrubuntu?
[00:06] <k1l_> !alis | hays you tried that
[00:07] <Sgt_Shultz> seamus_, TRY ANOTHER KEYBOARD, MAYBE 4  A START, MAYBE A FAULT
[00:07] <k1l_> seamus_: you mean the pc speaker?
[00:08] <k1l_> seamus_: that should be blacklisted anyway iirc
[00:08] <Sgt_Shultz> oooops, caps
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> shortstraw8: install unp and use it for all archives.
[00:09] <k1l_> seamus_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194744/how-to-disable-internal-speaker-audio try that
[00:10] <dingo311> am i to assume by the lack of response that no one knows? i dont want to waste my time and yours if its unanswerable right now. i also dont want to flood by asking every 10 minutes
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> hays: possibly #ubuntu-arm may know
[00:10] <hays> k1l_: is there some subtle way to use that?  I don't see an obvious channel
[00:10] <seamus_> Ah, thank you! My friend knew what the problem was immediately when you mentioned pc speaker.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> dingo311: using sudo sets root's settings, not your users
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> dingo311: run:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[00:11] <shortstraw8> ActionParsnip, Cool worked perfect thanks
[00:12] <Dionist> ActionParsnip Hey there. Actually, I don't have any problem right now, I just wanted to thank you for all the help. I'm greatly enjoying my Ubuntu'd Mac.
[00:12] <dingo311> ActionParsnip: without sudo i get operation not permitted....not sure i have pulseaudio, i didnt install it...
[00:12] <dingo311> ActionParsnip: just alsa
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Dionist: no worries dude, thanks for the gratitude :)
[00:13] <Dionist> ActionParsnip Actually, just one little more thing. I figured out how to get IRC client up and running, but where's the Ubuntu off topic room, and how do I look up a list of rooms based on a keyword, if that's possible?
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !alis | Dionist
[00:14] <zsm1703> hi、
[00:14] <Dionist> Thanks!
[00:15] <Dionist> ...
[00:15] <Dionist> That's a LOT of Ubuntu rooms.
[00:16] <bianca>  well will VMware work on my system? will i be able to play games ? because wine isnt working for me
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> bianca: games run really badly in virtualized systems.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did the opensource game work ok?
[00:17] <bianca> but i have an 8core and 16 gigs of ram, so i could give it 4 cores and 8 gigs of ram?
[00:17] <bianca> yeha
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> bianca: its the video card access than raw resources
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did you check the appdb for compatibility with your wine game?
[00:19] <stlu> I'm trying to remove Unity and having problems.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> stlu: I suggest you just install a new shell and leave unity installed. It doesn't take much space on the drive
[00:20] <k1l_> !rootirc > root__
[00:20] <stlu> @ActionParsnip: I really need to wipe out unity and Gnome3 libs because it causes lots of problems with my wanted desktop MATE.
[00:21] <bianca> yes, but i just get a black screen when i launch it..
[00:21] <bianca> ill start over i guess
[00:21] <stlu> Is there a way to force apt-get to remove all dependant packages instead of installing more packages to satisfy the dependencies?
[00:22] <nabblet> hi, how can i add inadyn (dyn-dns updater) to autostart so that it get's started even if no one logs in.
[00:22] <erenilson> NIC connecting and disconnecting, normally works in win 7 (dual boot)
[00:22] <Schumi24> The Ubuntu Software Center seems to be crashing each time I try to open it - is there a way to reinstall it, or somethign similar?
[00:23] <erenilson> can anyone help me??
[00:23] <stlu> Is there a way to force apt-get to remove all dependencies of the packages I want to purge?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> Schumi24: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[00:23] <stlu> This is the tutorial I am trying to follow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12469027#post12469027
[00:23] <jrib> stlu: apt-get autoremove   (in theory :))
[00:23] <nabblet> erenilson, i had a similar problem with my wireless card - since ubuntu 12.04 - it was no problme under 10.04
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> bianca: what game are you trying to launch?
[00:24] <bianca> League of legends
[00:24] <stlu> jrib: that will only install the old linux headers from the last update.
[00:24] <Schumi24> That worked. Thanks ActionParsnip  :D
[00:24] <jrib> stlu: what?
[00:24] <stlu> *that will only remove ...
[00:24] <k1l_> stlu: do it the other way. first install mate and then remove unity
[00:24] <Schumi24> I really gotta change the default nick, I made a typo when I entered it
[00:25] <erenilson> I installed ubuntu 12.10, is to fix this problem?
[00:25] <gunarm_> what does it mean when my server that I ssh into every day suddenly says "The autheticity of host can't be established"  Did something expire or am I getting hacked?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> bianca: did you patch wine?
[00:25] <jrib> stlu: it will only work if the dependencies were installed *automatically* because you manually installed some other package
[00:25] <gunarm_> it gives the ECDSA finger print and asks if I want to continue as if it was a new server
[00:25] <stlu> kll_ I did install MATE, it has no effect on my problem, apt-get wanted to install 100MB+ of KDE packages and libs - this is not Kubuntu, its mainstream ubuntu
[00:26] <k1l_> stlu: you are sure mate or the ppa doesnt want to install that?
[00:27] <majnoon> for some reason vlc plugin no work in chrome ,it NOT a major problem :)
[00:27] <guigouz> hello, I'm setting my video modes on xorg.conf, but when I start X, it still lists a lot of modes, tried disabling EDID and other stuff, no luck, any ideas ? 12.04 here
[00:27] <erenilson> I installed ubuntu 12.10, is to fix this problem?
[00:27] <stlu> kll_: I'm certain, these "extra" packages are related to ubuntu, not MATE.
[00:27] <guigouz> *i mean xrandr still lists a lot of modes
[00:28] <stlu> I am following this exactly on a default install, (+MATE) and the tutorial doesn't mention all the extra crap downloading. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12469027#post12469027
[00:28] <stlu> sorry, its this tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[00:29] <Falados_> Having a problem booting 12.10.  It seems once it runs initrd the system reboots - no errors. Any way to see what's going on?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Falados_: have you tested your ram?
[00:30] <Falados_> ActionParsnip, no have not tested ram.  Had 12.04 Kubuntu installed before with no issues.
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Falados_: its a good starting point
[00:30] <Falados_> ok I'll try that.  If that isn't the problem - is there any other next step?
[00:31] <Falados_> ActionParsnip, I also have my root fs on LVM, if that makes a difference.
[00:31] <stlu> Is there a way to discover the packages that rely on others in a system?
[00:32] <fbdystang> I just installed an server instance, but I keep getting incorrect password attempts. Is there a way to find out my password?
[00:32] <stlu> That way I could add them in and then there wont be any reason to install the extra crap.
[00:32] <nabblet> problem solved http://blog.schmidt.br.com/2012/04/installing-dyndns-inadyn-as-service-on.html
[00:32] <dr_willis> fbdystang:  not really. normal method would be use recovery mode or a livce cd and reset the password to a known one.
[00:33] <LiThiuME3> Hmm quick question should : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58846 -j ACCEPT     forward port and accept connection from the port 58846
[00:33] <jrib> stlu: apt-cache depends?  apt-cache rdepends?  I'm not sure what you are actually doing.
[00:33] <wachpwnski> I've installed SLiM, Cinnamon, and Xorg, now how do I configure them together to run with startx?
[00:33] <w0rm-_x> c
[00:34] <fbdystang> dr_willis: is there a way I can just get to be root to fix?
[00:34] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  you wouldent use startx to start a loginmanager like slim
[00:34] <k1l_> wachpwnski: no not startx
[00:34] <dr_willis> fbdystang:  recovery console from the grub menu
[00:34] <erenilson> quit
[00:34] <stlu> jrib: I am removing the packages listed on this tutorial, so that MATE won't conflict with Unity or Gnome3 daemons. http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> fbdystang: www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:34] <wachpwnski> k1l_:  How do I configure Cinnamon with startx then?
[00:34] <fbdystang> ActionParsnip: thnx :)
[00:34] <jrib> stlu: and?  what's the output?
[00:35] <k1l_> wachpwnski: start a desktopmanager and start cinnamon from there
[00:35] <jrib> stlu: also, are you sure you need to?  Why don't you just install mate?  What conflicts?
[00:35] <stlu> jrib: apt-get progressively wants to install more alternate packages as I try to remove them.
[00:35] <jrib> stlu: that's too vague
[00:35] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  the login manager should show a listg including the available desktops
[00:36] <stlu> jrib: it got ridiculous and actually tried pushing KDE packages and libs on me when I tried to remove the Gnome3 ones.
[00:36] <k1l_> wachpwnski: as slim is in the repos why not installing slim? it should configure itself as the dm
[00:36] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  how do I configure the login manager to start?
[00:36] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  it should be doing that allready. unless you disabled it.
[00:36] <wachpwnski> k1l_:  I did, so I just reboot now?
[00:36] <jrib> stlu: does official mate documentation say you need to remove them?  Might be easier to just leave the alternate desktop and not use it
[00:36] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  this is a server install
[00:37] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  shouldent matter. you install the lightdm or whatever dm and it sets up as a service
[00:37] <jrib> stlu: see here: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[00:37] <stlu> Official MATE documentation will probably end up being modified by me for Ubuntu -specific problems.
[00:38] <jrib> stlu: what do you mean?  They have ubuntu-specific directions there
[00:38] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  it is saying "failed to load session "ubuntu"
[00:38] <stlu> gnome-settings-daemon, for one, will crash the mate-settings-daemon and all icons and styles will be missing.
[00:38] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  what is saying that
[00:38] <jrib> stlu: so don't run it?  Is mate running gnome-settings-daemon for some reason?
[00:39] <stlu> jrib: the ubuntu-specific documentation does not take these problems into acount. I will probably be the only one who updates it.
[00:39] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  when I login with slim
[00:39] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  select a differnt desktop   to use from the login manager screen
[00:40] <stlu> jrib: that isn't the only problem.  I'll spare you the details but the bottom line is, I can't wate for Mubuntu to materialize, I need Unity and Gnome3 OUT.
[00:40] <jrib> stlu: have you actually verified that it's still a problem?  For example here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-mate-desktop-environment-in-ubuntu-12-04precise11-10-oneiric.html there is mention of conflicts with gnome being fixed
[00:41] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  i think i have to link my session to cinnamon
[00:41] <stlu> jrib: that is the same documentation as in the MATE wiki.  I don't think many users have actually tried it because there are lots of unsolved problems even with the current version 1.4
[00:41] <dr_willis> wachpwnski:  i would hope that cinnamon adds a proper .desktop entry for the login managers to use.. if not - i wouldent put much faith in cinnamon
[00:41] <cjae> to use a samba client only does my user have to be in samba group?
[00:42] <fsdfs> real mean use debian, homos use ubuntu
[00:42] <fsdfs> just sayin
[00:42] <MarasLy> noluyo la burda
[00:42] <MarasLy> breh breh
[00:42] <MarasLy> simdi 1697 kiþi var ve kimse konusmuyormu :S
[00:43] <zykotick9> fsdfs's ignorant opinion do not reflect those of "debian users" as a whole
[00:43] <k1l_> !tr | MarasLy
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> cjae: i believe the default groups give enough access to access samba shares
[00:43] <wachpwnski> dr_willis:  maybe I have to reinstall since I installed slim after
[00:44] <cjae> ActionParsnip: well the user is in sambashare group anyway
[00:44] <stlu> I have seen that the MATE problems don't occur when MATE is added ontop of Ubuntu server.  But I have a dell laptop with MATE and I don't want to change over to a server, I just want to remove Unity and the Gnome3libs.
[00:44] <Kajover> Hi. I have installed Ubuntu 12.10 (64-Bit) on my Macbook Air 2010. After experiencing graphic glitches I selected the nvidia drivers (current - tested) in "software sources" and am currently looking at this screen (http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=230500&d=1358897837). Does anybody have any idea how I might resolve this? Thank you very much in advance.
[00:44] <stlu> *I have a Dell laptop with Unity.
[00:44] <Kajover> does anybody have an idea how i might resolve this
[00:45] <cjae> ActionParsnip: I am just trying to get rid of zeroconf and setup a pure connection to my sambashare server
[00:45] <jrib> stlu: so remove them
[00:46] <cjae> ActionParsnip: Im getting very slow transfer speeds for having a gigabit lan
[00:46] <stlu> jrib: brings me back to original problem: apt-get then tries to keep installing more and more packages as I try to remove them.
[00:46] <jrib> stlu: I asked you to pastebin, but you don't
[00:47] <Dyl> Hello everyone
[00:47] <justmeh> !hi
[00:47] <justmeh> huh, nothing.
[00:48] <justmeh> Greetings anyway Dyl :)
[00:48] <MarasLy> hi channel
[00:48] <justmeh> cjae - samba?
[00:48] <justmeh> really?
[00:48] <zykotick9> justmeh: !hi was remove a long time ago ;)
[00:48] <justmeh> zykotick9, ah lol
[00:48] <X3MBoy> Good evening (-4:30 GMT)
[00:49] <cjae> justmeh: ya man, my nfs broken so how
[00:49] <cjae> some*
[00:49] <MarasLy> nece konusuyorlarsa
[00:49] <MarasLy> :D
[00:49] <justmeh> cjae, ok lets talk about the real issue then, nfs
[00:49] <justmeh> What's broken about it?
[00:50] <Dyl> I am now in a lot of trouble lol. I forgot my main admin accounts password in Ubuntu and I only have access to a guest account. Is there anyway I can regain access to my other account? I dun want to format the pc. :/
[00:50] <jrib> stlu: I'll be back in ~15
[00:50] <justmeh> Dyl, yes
[00:50] <justmeh> grab a pencil:
[00:50] <justmeh> 1. reboot and hold shift if you don't see grub menu
[00:50] <justmeh> 2. boot the recovery kernel
[00:50] <justmeh> 3. drop to shell
[00:50] <bianca> ActionParsnip im still reinstalling it
[00:50] <justmeh> 4. you should now be root; run: 'passwd $username'
[00:51] <justmeh> if this fails, you will need to grab a live cd and chroot in
[00:51] <Dyl> justmeh: the guest account has adminstrator priveleges. is there anything I can do with that?
[00:51] <justmeh> sure
[00:51] <cjae> justmeh: well I have some kind  of a seroconfig on my system that lets me see my nas smb and nfs shares. But either the nfs is broken on the nas or something is wrong with this zeroconf thing
[00:52] <justmeh> sudo passwd $username
[00:52] <k1l_> Dyl: no it hasnt administrativ privileges
[00:52] <k1l_> Dyl: its not in the sudoers group
[00:52] <k1l_> (which makes sense as its a guest account :) )
[00:53] <cjae> justmeh: also Ive asked in the nas channel and users seem to have no issue with nfs on nas version
[00:53] <justmeh> ok
[00:53] <justmeh> and what NAS?
[00:53] <cjae> justmeh: nas4free
[00:53] <Dyl> is there a terminal command to list all users on a system?
[00:54] <cjae> .573
[00:54] <justmeh> Dyl, maybe you can do: ls /home
[00:54] <Dyl> *usernames
[00:54] <fishscene> Please allow me to express my displeasure on trying to Download the Ubuntu CD's for Mac... http://www.ubuntu.com/download I mean, is it too much to ask for the link to "alternate download" remain on the download screen? Now I have to go to Google and search for the Download repository... not a good way to keep people on the Ubuntu website. :(
[00:54] <Kajover> can anybody please help me with installing nvidia drivers correctly.. i've selected them in software sources but my macbook air (2010) wont boot
[00:54] <justmeh> you might not be able to read passwd: cat /etc/passwd /etc/shadow
[00:54] <justmeh> fishscene, agreed, i would submit a feature request
[00:55] <Kajover> stuck at brcms_ops_bss_info changed: arp filtering: enabled true, count 1 (implement)
[00:55] <fishscene> Where can I do that?
[00:55] <justmeh> lets take a look
[00:55] <justmeh> http://www.ubuntu.com/community
[00:56] <cjae> justmeh: but smb is connecting via the zeroconf and thats why I was messing with it
[00:56] <fishscene> WAIT. nvm. Link is on the bottom of the download page
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode and select root, then run:  nvidia-xconfig ; reboot
[00:56] <fishscene> ...I think it could be labeled better, but heck, the functionality is there at least. =\
[00:56] <justmeh> cjae, out of curiosity, why zeroconf it at all?
[00:56] <justmeh> personally I consider this type of behavior to be reckless
[00:57] <fbdystang> ActionParsnip: It looks like that the non working password is a system password. How to reset that?
[00:57] <cjae> justmeh: because I works through the dolphin filemanger and I just that to spliit screen cause its right there, no REAL reason. I would like to strip zero right off if I could
[00:57] <cjae> using kde but have gnome shell too
[00:58] <justmeh> well http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ would be the spot
[00:58] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: Unable to write to X11
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> f_droopy: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root then run:  passwd foo; reboot    change foo for your username. Eg:   passwd dave; reboot
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: is it read only per chance?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: run:   mount -o remount,rw /
[00:58] <Kajover> im not an expert. how do i check that
[00:58] <Kajover> ok
[00:59] <justmeh> cjae, why don't you walk us through the whole issue. so you have a nas(?) storage device. it uses ipv4. its set to zeroconf?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: then retry the first command
[00:59] <justmeh> you have a desktop, runs kde/gnome, works in kde, not gnome
[00:59] <justmeh> all that correct?
[00:59] <cjae> justmeh: yes
[00:59] <justmeh> ok good
[00:59] <cjae> no works in gnome too
[00:59] <cjae> just painfully slow
[00:59] <justmeh> this kde/gnome, do they live side by side in the same install, or are they seperate boxen or seperate installs?
[01:00] <justmeh> ok
[01:00] <cjae> there is something wrong with kio -slave in kde though
[01:00] <cjae> side by side
[01:00] <cjae> gnome file manager is slighly faster
[01:01] <justmeh> ok
[01:01] <justmeh> when you run a nautilus window from a terminal and try it, does it give out any errors? what about  the kde?
[01:02] <justmeh> what versions of samba are being used on each device?
[01:02] <justmeh> making sense?
[01:02] <cjae> yes
[01:02] <justmeh> imagine you are trying to get tech support.... ;)
[01:02] <cjae> nfs://nas4free.local:2049/mnt/first/  no such file or device
[01:03] <tonsofpcs>  ?
[01:03] <justmeh> ok
[01:03] <justmeh> you may have an issue with dns
[01:03] <justmeh> nslookup nas4free.local
[01:04] <heywood> ActionParsnip: thanks for the ssh tips earlier. (nice nick, BTW :) ).
[01:05] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: Warning: unable to locate/open X configuration file. New X configuration written to /etc/x11/xorg.conf -> Secont time: using x configuration file: /etc/x11/xorg.conf"; backed up  file '/etc/x11/xorg.conf' as  '/etc/x11/xorg.conf.backup'; new x configuration file written to 'etc/x11/xorg.conf'
[01:05] <heywood> dr_willis: thanks for the help earlier.
[01:05] <cjae> justmeh: into cmd?
[01:05] <cjae> or in naut
[01:06] <justmeh> cmd
[01:06] <cjae> http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=lc0u6boqcx116r00rw4e.png
[01:06] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: still... this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=230500&d=1358897837
[01:06] <seamus_> It seems text boxes are still beeping. I realized when I tested it I was using the google search box, which never made that sound anyways. And the sound it's making isn't a pcspkr beep, but the same as the "Default" alert sound. Even though alert sounds are turned off....
[01:06] <ubuntuapps> hi all
[01:07] <cjae> justmeh: server can't find nas4free.local: NXDOMAIN
[01:07] <ubuntuapps> how do i promote an app?
[01:07] <ubuntuapps> I have published a game on the oubuntu software center
[01:07] <ubuntuapps> but its not getting any purchases
[01:07] <phomer> hey, I'm a new Ubuntu and I'm having trouble launching Spring Tools Suite. I just closed it 5 minutes ago so I know it's working. When I click on the icon on unity launcher it just keeps blinking slowly. I tried to find the process via htop (and kill it), but I couldn't find any matches for STS.
[01:07] <FloodBot1> ubuntuapps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <ubuntuapps> how do i promote my app?
[01:08] <justmeh> cjae, yup
[01:08] <cjae> justmeh: http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=7qp4ntjoxodv4k0let07.png
[01:09] <seamus_> pcspkr and snd_pcsp are already blacklisted and not running, but I still get beeps.
[01:09] <justmeh> ok
[01:09] <justmeh> then set the ip explicitly, with a /32
[01:09] <justmeh> that would only give it one ip to choose from..
[01:10] <justmeh> and gateway shouldnt matter as long as the machines making requests were on the same /24
[01:10] <justmeh> but perhaps you should ping the freenas doods?
[01:10] <cjae> right
[01:10] <cjae> dont know what you mean by a /32
[01:11] <cjae> give an ip instead
[01:11] <MarasLy> mýnayim bura ne ya
[01:11] <MarasLy> bombok
[01:11] <cgkades> cjae: /32 is in reference to the subnet mask
[01:11] <justmeh> http://www.netlife.co.za/tech-guides/49-network-attached-storage-nas-devices/76-improve-freenas-smb-performance.html
[01:11] <seamus_> They don't happen in the terminal, but xchat's message prompt, chromium's url, and system settings prompts all beep loudly if I press backspace or left at the end. This is especially painful when browsing and listening to music, as the beep is far, FAR louder than the music.
[01:11] <justmeh> good google search: "gnome samba slow freenas" no quotes
[01:12] <cjae> right like cidr
[01:12] <justmeh> yes
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: in sounds, I belive there is a bell volume
[01:12] <justmeh> so if it zeroconf's to an ip in that range then setting it to a /32 is effectively giving it a static ip
[01:12] <justmeh> if instead that's an ACL it could break it
[01:12] <justmeh> (like an allowed hosts setting)
[01:12] <cjae> ok
[01:13] <seamus_> In settings, under sound, there are five tabs: Output, Input, Hardware, Sound Effects, and Applications. Sound Effects has an alert volume option, but it is already muted.
[01:14] <seamus_> And in alsamixer, Beep is muted and set to zero.
[01:14] <justmeh> system bell seamus_
[01:14] <justmeh> that's the one
[01:15] <Kajover> ActionParsnip: Do you have any other idea?
[01:15] <justmeh> would also do it with a double tab doing a bash tab complete with multiple matches
[01:15] <seamus_> Also, for some reason, changing the default alert sound more than once causes the settings program to crash....
[01:15] <seamus_> justmeh: Not an option.
[01:16] <justmeh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6560023&postcount=4
[01:16] <confused_> most run dual boot systems, I dont do games so is it likely I could do with ubuntu only?
[01:17] <justmeh> confused_, I would recommend doing dual boot while learning to do everything
[01:17] <justmeh> but, instead, lets talk about what you do do. what do you do?
[01:17]  * justmeh is do'ing it
[01:17] <seamus_> pcspkr is already blacklisted. 'modprobe -r pcspkr' doesn't do anything and 'rmmod pcspkr' raises an error saying the proc doesn't exist.
[01:18] <confused_> just everyday stuff
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Kajover: not sure, sorry
[01:19] <confused_> I have two drives I could erase and put ubuntu and windows on each, or its better just dual boot one drive?
[01:19] <justmeh> then try toggling the setting in alsamixer
[01:19] <Kajover> thank you anyway
[01:19] <confused_> alsamixer, I will look that up
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> confused_: i'd put ubuntu on the same drive as windows, then have a shared ntfs area for user data on the other drive as well as an ntfs partition for pagefile and %tmp% then a partition for swap
[01:20] <Annette01> Hello everybody, Is it okay to ask questions here?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[01:20] <confused_> yes ann
[01:21] <blkadder> Annette01: It depends on the question, but generally yes.
[01:21] <Annette01> Im trying to install ubuntu on my computer, but when i run the live usb both to install, and run off the usb it freezes after a ton of command line stuff
[01:21] <Annette01> Ive tried three usb sticks, all differnt sizes and brans
[01:21] <Annette01> brands*
[01:22] <Annette01> i also disabled the ufei thing in the bios
[01:22] <seamus_> "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l" Sorry, I know I said 12.10 earlier. I'm helping a friend fix this machine and forgot he wanted the LTS....
[01:22] <blkadder> We'd need the error message in order to help...
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: did you MD5 tes the ISO you downloaded?
[01:22] <blkadder> Or at least I would. :-)
[01:22] <seamus_> It's an odd set-up for an old machine. Installed Lubuntu to get around a compatibility issue with the CPU, then put GNOME 3 over it, but he runs GNOME Classic.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: did you look in sound settings, there is a bell volume
[01:23] <Annette01> Im not super in the know. But what is a md5 test?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Annette01
[01:23] <seamus_> There doesn't appear to be such a thing in sound settings, in any of the five tabs or any of the lists inside those..... However, I may have solved it by disabling something in alsamixer called "external amplifier". Let me test real quickly.
[01:23] <Annette01> Thanks ^_^
[01:23] <Annette01> Ill look here!
[01:24] <seamus_> Nope. It turned off all sound.
[01:24] <seamus_> Turning it back on leaves me with the same problem.
[01:24] <Sgt_Shultz> seamus_, change keyboard or maybe look in BIOS to see if "beep on error" is on, it maybe a hardware thing
[01:25] <seamus_> Ok. Can't change keyboards, since it's a laptop, but will check BIOS.
[01:25] <Annette01> IT says the checksums are differnt, what does that mean?
[01:25] <Annette01> oh wait
[01:25] <Annette01> i missed a step
[01:26] <seamus_> Though, would it be a hardware thing if it sounds like the default alert sound? Like someone strumming some weird metallic but not-instrument string thing. xP
[01:26] <seamus_> Not like a pure tone or harsh generic beep. Just way too loud.
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: different hashes means the image is corrupted
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: try:    xset -b off
[01:27] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: It matches, i didnt copy paste into the thing
[01:27] <blkadder> Annette01: Then we're back to needing the error message....
[01:28] <m000gle> Is there any way to integrate additional software with the Message Menu in Ubuntu 12.10? ... Specifically, none of Pidgin, Skype, X-Chat, Liferea etc appear in the Message Menu appindicator, despite being available there in previous releases
[01:28] <seamus_> Oddly, it throws an error at me if I try "xset -b off", suggesting the syntax is "xset -b b off". Neither command helped though. :/
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1652309   set the sound theme to none (i like this too, stupid sounds interrupting my media)
[01:28] <Annette01> the last thing i see before it just hardlocks in the long line of command prompt looking stuff is something about ata control
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: what video chip do you use?
[01:28] <Annette01> nvidia 670m
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: please remember to md5 test in future?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: ahh, what CPU?
[01:29] <Annette01> intel core i7 3610-qm
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: so its an Optimus setup?
[01:29] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: switchable GPU
[01:29] <Annette01> Nope, its a pure nvidia setup. Non switchable
[01:30] <Annette01> Its a g75vw asus rog laptop.
[01:30] <seamus_> Hm, perhaps I have an old version of the sound settings program? Mine does not look like that. Doesn't have theme option, nor the previously mentioned bell option....
[01:30] <seamus_> How would I update it?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: http://ark.intel.com/products/64899/Intel-Core-i7-3610QM-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz   says it has an intel 4000 HD
[01:30] <wachpwnski> Wow
[01:30] <wachpwnski> I just installed my desktop environment and slim
[01:31] <wachpwnski> cinnamon must be beta or something
[01:31] <Annette01> The cpu may have it but the GPU used isnt a optimus enable chip
[01:31] <Sgt_Shultz> seamus_, maybe if its older laptop, its only got basic sound hardware ....
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> wachpwnski: its an unofficial gnome2 fork
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: try the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[01:32] <wachpwnski> It's choppy and the windows cannot be moved?
[01:32] <wachpwnski> or closed
[01:32] <Annette01> Okay. Im not sure what that means. How do i do that boot option?
[01:32] <dylan> I'm having a little bit of a strange problem.  I can't click anything on the launcher in Unity.  It appears when I mouse over the left side, but I can't click anything.  I can only click stuff if I enable my laptop screen (I have a second monitor hooked up to my home laptop, which I just use as a desktop) in display settings, and set the launcher to appear on both monitors.  Even then it only works on the laptop screen.
[01:33] <seamus_> Alright, I'm going to try checking the BIOS, brb.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> dylan: same in a different session, like xfce?
[01:34] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: Sorry, im a bit of a newbie to this all.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Annette01
[01:35] <reconmaster> anyone recommend a good laptop to use with *nix? I've been looking into system76
[01:36] <justmeh> reconmaster, ive never bothered getting one made for nix
[01:36] <justmeh> but the biggest thing I would watch for is the included wifi device
[01:37] <justmeh> make sure its fully supported in *nix, and that you can packet capture with it
[01:37] <justmeh> (fully functional)
[01:37] <reconmaster> yeah, i've never bought a *nix specific one, but I don't want to shell ot for windows 8
[01:37] <reconmaster> didn't know if the mainstream ones just have oem hardware you can buy or not
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> reconmaster: dell will preinstall ubuntu (if memory serves)
[01:38] <Annette01> I think i heard that too, but only a select few laptops and desktops.
[01:39] <Sgt_Shultz> it a crime with MAc & mScrap names all over it .... bundling
[01:39] <escott> ActionParsnip, reconmaster  but then you have dell. I would rather shoot myself personally
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> escott: my D420 runs 100% OOTB :)
[01:41] <reconmaster> yeah, i've been running an asus netbook, but it is just too slow to be serviceable.  and now i really dont want to even see what doze 8 is about
[01:41] <reconmaster> but thanks guys for the help, just thought i would check on here
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> reconmaster: could run lubuntu on the netbook
[01:46] <Annette01> Ive played around with windows 8 for a bit, for windows its ccualy not so bad, i think 90% of the rage is the same stuff people put towards linux, its just the matter of "new" and change. Theres some serious faults for sure though. And ive wanted to try ubuntu again for a while ive just not had the harddrive room until i got this new laptop :)
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: as the song goes; every OS sucks
[01:48] <xbskid> ActionParsnip: RISC OS? :)
[01:48] <ericentrino> ubuntu is nice, first time i use it
[01:49] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: So very true, haha.
[01:49] <Annette01> ActionParsnip: Potato = best os
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> xbskid: they all crash dude
[01:49] <xbskid> Potatos don't crash :(
[01:50] <Annette01> If you leave them sitting for too long they spoil, thats kinda like crashing, isnt it?
[01:52] <Sgt_Shultz> it is about being able to use your machine, I had a customer that used a Commodore64, 4 19 years, because it can doing the work, and he knew the system ...
[01:53] <linux_is_my_hero> anyone know how to turn drivers that worked in 12.04.1 into drivers that work on a popular linux-based mobile os (which shall remain nameless)?
[01:53] <antonio__> I'm planning on upgrading my 10.04 to the latest version..
[01:53] <antonio__> Should I upgrade straight from 10.04 to the latest..or should I upgrade sequentially?
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> Annette01: you can upgrade 10.04 to 12.04 directly, then to 12.10 if you want#
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: ^
[01:55] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: do you have any experience porting from one distro to another?
[01:55] <bk> what package includes apaste?
[01:56] <rypervenche> linux_is_my_hero: We would need to know the distro to be able to tell.
[01:57] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu 12.04.1 to android 4.0
[01:59] <MrDyne>  /topic
[01:59] <antonio__> actionparsnip: Am I supposed to be able to see an upgrade ubuntu in the ubuntu update manager? I can't see anything like that
[02:00] <linux_is_my_hero> antonio_: for what its worth, my 12.04.1 machine doesn't have that button either.
[02:00] <MrDyne> I'm not sure if this is correct thinking, but isn't it good pratice to run java/Minecraft server with an extra limited user account?
[02:01] <rypervenche> MrDyne: It's a smart thing to do, yes.
[02:01] <fishscene> MrDyne: When running anything, it's always best to give the least-amount of priviledges as possible.
[02:01] <MrDyne> Can you recommend a guide on how to do this?
[02:02] <rypervenche> You can create a jailed account. There are some useful packages that can help with this.
[02:02] <rypervenche> I don't know if "jail" is available on Ubuntu though.
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | antonio__
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> MrDyne: you could even run it in a chroot if you are super paranoid
[02:03] <courblah> can anyone help me..i have a line 6 toneport kb37 sound card but there is no driver for ubuntu..please help?
[02:04] <MrDyne> Well I have a Xubuntu desktop computer that we are using as our groups dedicated server. So the more security the better.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> courblah: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[02:05] <courblah> i have no clue :)
[02:05] <noiro> Hey guys, my screen keeps going black as if in screensaver after like 10 minutes. I turned off the lock, any reason for this?
[02:05] <escott> noiro, dpms
[02:05] <MrDyne> My next question was going to be on setting up a good firewall. What is a easy to config firewall for a gaming dedicated webserver computer.
[02:06] <cub> noiro, mine does the same.. :\
[02:06] <escott> noiro, you can "xset -dpms" and it should stay on
[02:06] <fishscene> MrDyne: For that, if you have a spare computer lying around with 2 network interfaces, I recommend smoothwall
[02:06] <fishscene> (smoothwall.org)
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> courblah: you won't. you need to run the command
[02:08] <fishscene> MrDyne: Aside from that, almost any router that can do port forwarding (NOT PORT TRIGGERING!) should be good. Depends on your scale though. If you have 50+ users, you might want to look into a serious hardware firewall.
[02:08] <fishscene> ...but I'm a bit off-topic at the moment. :P
[02:08] <justi665> Hello
[02:08] <MrDyne> No we only got 20 players but at most 12 play..
[02:09] <MrDyne> Would a Linksys router modded with DD-WRT be enough>
[02:10] <courblah> i run it
[02:10] <fishscene> MrDyne: That should be fine, but go ahead and PM me on this topic as we're off-topic for this channel
[02:10] <courblah> it gave me : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=085e34c5ba9e5639409e9c6daec82838b44bea73
[02:10] <MrDyne> err how?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> courblah: ok, are you using the hdmi or the sound card?
[02:17] <courblah> it is an external sound card,that is connecting via usb cable (line 6 toneport kb37)
[02:17] <noiro> escott: didn't work
[02:19] <courblah> http://line6.com/legacy/toneportkb37 this is the sound card i have,there is no drivers for it :(
[02:21] <micmic> ciao
[02:21] <micmic> non riesco piu ad entrare in sortcenter
[02:21] <XMLnewbi> so I moved my site over to nginx           site pulled up but my links are offering a download of the page.php rather then going to the page
[02:21] <micmic> potete aiutarmi?
[02:22] <bean> XMLnewbi: you have to install the php module for nginx
[02:22] <escott> XMLnewbi, i thought nginx was a caching accelerator. does it have a php module?
[02:22] <bean> escott: nginx is like apache, but event model
[02:23] <XMLnewbi> maybe i need to install 5.4 http://www.sitepoint.com/php-with-nginx-is-about-to-become-a-lot-easier/   ?
[02:23] <bean> XMLnewbi: http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-nginx-with-php5-and-php-fpm-and-mysql-support-lemp-on-ubuntu-12.04-lts
[02:24] <bean> XMLnewbi: you have to tell it what to do, in the config
[02:24] <BeefTaco> Hello all
[02:24] <XMLnewbi> thanks, im working though that link
[02:24] <bean> XMLnewbi: obvs ignore stuff about mysql
[02:26] <BeefTaco> I have an external drive mounted at /media/username/MediaDrive. What I want to do is create a user called Friends that will have ONLY read and execute permissions on a couple of folders on this drive via ssh. How do I do this?
[02:26] <escott> BeefTaco, is the external drive NTFS?
[02:26] <mox> Hola
[02:27] <BeefTaco> escott: Yes, I made sure not to set it up as FAT32 when I formatted it.
[02:27] <escott> BeefTaco, then what you propose is impossible
[02:27] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: io non parlo italiano, ma Google Translate fa. quando si dice che non può entrare nel sortcenter, vuoi dire il menu cruscotto?
[02:27] <BeefTaco> escott: Even if it is being ssh'ed into from an NTFS system?
[02:28] <escott> BeefTaco, to some extent what you propose is impossible even with a proper partition. depends on whether or not you accept chroot jails as a legit solution
[02:28] <BeefTaco> escott: What are chroot jails?
[02:28] <micmic> ma su canaIe ita non mi caga nessuno
[02:28] <escott> BeefTaco, NTFS is not POSIX. you cannot enforce POSIX permissions on it, hence you cannot apply different posix permissions to the same NTFS mountpoint
[02:29] <BeefTaco> escott: Meaning that the permissions cannot be set per user?
[02:29] <micmic> softwarecenter
[02:29] <escott> BeefTaco, there is one fake set of permissions per NTFS mountpoint.
[02:30] <micmic> aiutami Iinux
[02:30] <escott> BeefTaco, on top of that you have noexec and a host of other annoyances
[02:31] <escott> BeefTaco, assuming you switch to a proper posix filesystem then you could attempt a chroot jail but these days i would recommend a virtual machine over a chroot jail
[02:31] <micmic> heIpppppppppppppppppppp
[02:31] <BeefTaco> escott: What about a way to allow access to entire drive regardless of permissions? Would simple ssh do this?
[02:31] <micmic> he1pppppppppppppp meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:32] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: quando la trovi nel menu cruscotto e fare clic su di esso, non si fa nulla?
[02:32] <escott> !it | mimic
[02:32] <linux_is_my_hero> thats cool theres an italian room :-)
[02:32] <micmic> si, apre Ia pagina ma poi non mi fa connettere
[02:33] <escott> BeefTaco, one thing you need to understand is that a user only exists on a system to the extent that they can run binaries. For example when I ssh into another machine I *am* /bin/bash
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> linux_is_my_hero: there are lots of channels for lots of languages :)
[02:34] <BeefTaco> Okay, that makes sense. Guess what I am try to do then is create a "restricted" user.
[02:34] <escott> BeefTaco, so removing execute permissions from someone is also a way to deny them access. you could copy /bin/bash and libc and some other basic necessities into a folder and chroot them to that, but (a) its a very limited environment (b) its hard to update (c) its security is no greater than what you copy to that directory
[02:35] <micmic> heIppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[02:35] <BeefTaco> escott: Limited environment is what I want. The whole purpose is to allow friends to access content on the drive remotely.
[02:35] <escott> BeefTaco, my recommendation if you wanted to give access to someone who you didnt trust would be to consider either an sftp jail (which means they can only upload/download) or a virtual machine (so you can trash the whole thing/start over if it gets compromised)
[02:35] <BeefTaco> Or have me access it on the restricted user from their house.
[02:35] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: hai provato a spostare il computer a un altro collegamento ad internet? forse alcune porte sono bloccate.
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> micmic: what is the issue?
[02:36] <BeefTaco> escott: What is a good vm environment for ubuntu 12.10?
[02:36] <escott> BeefTaco, the NTFS thing just makes stuff more complicated because you dont have real permissions on those files (you cannot change them except for the entire disk at a time)
[02:36] <hoechts> Hi, I  have set up a new raid to /dev/md1 .. now i rebootet, and my raid is mounted on /dev/md127 .. how can i change it to /dev/md1?
[02:36] <micmic> no, ho soIo una connessione wifi
[02:36] <escott> BeefTaco, there are lots. kvm, xen, virtualbox. something like kvm could be made nice and lightweight
[02:36] <BeefTaco> escott: Thank you very much, I will try that as a solution :)
[02:37] <linux_is_my_hero> actionparsnip: i dont think he speaks english so i've been using google translate
[02:37] <Free99> BeefTaco: KVM is what ubuntu officially supports, I use it on several servers. real light and fast
[02:37] <courblah> hopeless:(
[02:37] <BeefTaco> Free99: Thank you for the reassurance :)
[02:37] <micmic> si vede che carica ma non si coIIega
[02:37] <micmic> mi da iI simboIo e basta
[02:38] <escott> hoechts, you might be able to play around with udev rules
[02:38] <hoechts> escott, where can i find more about this? i dont know udev
[02:38] <linux_is_my_hero> wifi come rete dati cellulare (4G), o come hotspot wifi coffee house?
[02:39] <xangua> !it | micmic linux_is_my_hero
[02:39] <micmic> suI canaIe in itaIiano non mi risponde nessuno
[02:40] <micmic> aItrimenti non sarei qui, non sono idiota
[02:40] <escott> hoechts, you can see some rules in /etc/udev/rules.d otherwise just look at man udev
[02:40] <hoechts> do you know if i can stop rebuilding an array which i have started manually?
[02:42] <micmic> sono anche suI canaIe itaIiano in questo momento
[02:42] <escott> hoechts, you can just stop the array
[02:42] <hoechts> escott, and then?
[02:42] <linux_is_my_hero> micmic: hai provato google translate? allora si può provare camere in molte lingue tra cui inglese :-)
[02:42] <escott> hoechts, and then hopefully it is stopped
[02:43] <hoechts> and how do i start it? there is data on that raid ;)
[02:43] <hoechts> i dont like loosing this data
[02:43] <escott> hoechts, stopping and starting an array does nothing to the data inside it
[02:43] <hoechts> it cost me 3 days to copy the data to that raid ;)
[02:43] <micmic> adesso ci provo, sperando bene
[02:43] <hoechts> escott, ok then i try it ;) good to know i have backups ;)
[02:44] <ULO> I tried 12.10 (full install) the other day dual boot w/ W7 and it ran like ass. My machine can run W7 just fine (everything is snappy and fast) but for some reason 12.10 is meh. Should I go back to 12.04 or should I just install 13.04 as my daily driver (I plan on using it just for fun). Are there any nagging bugs?
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> ULO: what video chip do you use?
[02:45] <ULO> ATI 5400
[02:45] <hoechts> escott, thank you! mdadm --assemble --scan now mounted my raid on /dev/md1 - like i wanted ;)   i check what happens after a reboot
[02:46] <ULO> ActionParsnip:  Radeon HD 5450
[02:46] <ULO> 512MB
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> ULO: did you install the proprietary video driver
[02:47] <randimiller> Any suggestions for a linux mmorpg? bored and looking for a new game to play
[02:47] <ULO> ActionParsnip: Yup. Loading programs and switching from programs was really slow too. Logging into Ubuntu (compared to 12.04) was extremely slow.
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> randimiller: http://mmohuts.com/editorials/linux-mmorpgs
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> ULO: tried a different desktop, like xfce?
[02:49] <ULO> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I tried it and it runs a better. I'd like to keep using Unity though :S
[02:50] <fbdystang> ULO: Install android. hehe j/k
[02:50] <Mamo-chan> wee... more kubuntu errors.. It wont allow me to set images i download to desktop background.
[02:50] <Mamo-chan> Any thoughts? :(
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> Mamo-chan: asked in #kubuntu
[02:50] <hoechts_> :/ my raid is always starting as /dev/md1 when i reboot although i wrote /dev/md1 in mdadm.con :/
[02:50] <ULO> fbdystang: Already got a Nexus 4 & 7 for that ;)
[02:51] <Mamo-chan> heh.. ok
[02:52] <escott> hoechts_, have you run an update-initramfs?
[02:52] <hoechts_> escott, ill try it
[02:52] <ULO> How is 13.04 running? Any weird experience breaking bugs?
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> ULO: is this an upgrade from Precise?
[02:52] <escott> !ubuntu+1 | ULO
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> ULO: #ubuntu+1 for Raring
[02:53] <hoechts_> escott, hmm im not sure what option i should give this command ;) .. -u?
[02:53] <ULO> ActionParsnip: It was a clean install
[02:53] <hoechts_> i dont know initramfs either ;)
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> ULO: works ok here but my hardware is super Linux friendly
[02:53] <escott> hoechts_, i always have to check... -a i think helps
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> ULO: I know the xorg in Quantal hates 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx ATi GPUs and there is a PPA with a fix, may help you
[02:54] <ULO> ActionParsnip: Yikes. I'd like to give the PPA a try :) Where can I find it?
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> ULO: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[02:58] <hoechts> escott, thank you very much - it worked! Now i will kill my old raid. cu
[03:03] <seamus_> There was no BIOS option I could tell was making it buzz. It doesn't seem to matter what I do. I can't get rid of this alert sound. Also, it seems the sound is actually more of a gong.
[03:08] <seamus_> So, I'm getting gong-like alert noises whenever I backspace or scroll too far in a text bar. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on an old Dell Latitude D600. The sound settings dialog doesn't include a terminal bell checkbox or slider of any kind, pcspkr module is not running, AlsaMixer's Beep volume is at 0% and muted, and my BIOS only mentions one keyboard-related beep option, and it is disabled.
[03:08] <halp-pl0x> hello
[03:08] <halp-pl0x> i have a minor problem
[03:08] <halp-pl0x> and can probably be fixed very easily
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: what if you set the sound scheme to none?
[03:09] <seamus_> My sound settings dialog doesn't mention any scheme or theme -like options. Can I do that by terminal?
[03:09] <halp-pl0x> how do i change the network interface "wlan0" to have a static ip? when i edit /etc/../interfaces  and set it up there, terminal tells me it "failed to bring up wlan0"
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> seamus_: http://toastytech.com/guis/ubuntu10sounds.png   like that
[03:10] <ipank> hello
[03:11] <ipank> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1561522/
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> halp-pl0x: in network manager -> wired tab, click the wired connected and set it to manual
[03:11] <ipank> I can't boot into windows partition
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> halp-pl0x: you will need to set the name servers too
[03:11] <thetinyjesus> Is there a way to get an iphone to sync with ubuntu yet?
[03:12] <thetinyjesus> I noticed in the new ubuntu development video he's wearing the apple headphones so i figured theres a trick to get it to sync
[03:12] <ipank> can anyone help me?
[03:12] <stlu> halp-pl0x: I beleive you need the wpa-supplicant to provide a Passphrase to your wireless router in order to manage the wifi from the command line.
[03:12] <ipank> !grub
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> ipank: what happens when you try to boot WIndows?
[03:12] <ipank> ActionParsnip, no, the windows 7 is not listed
[03:13] <thetinyjesus> do the restore grub link, happened to me as well
[03:13] <seamus_> The sound effects tab contains "Alert Volume", with a slider and on/off switch (set to "off"), and a selector labeled "choose an alert sound" with five options (set to "default").
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> ipank: if you run:   sudo update-grub    do you see Windows mentioned?
[03:13] <seamus_> Nothing else.
[03:13] <stlu> I'm still needing assistance removing Unity in 11.10.  Jrib?
[03:13] <ipank> ActionParsnip, no
[03:13] <ipank> ActionParsnip, it just generic kernell, recovery, and memtest
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> stlu: Oneiric is EOL in April. Is it worth it?
[03:14] <stlu> Yes, because f***ing dell won't use newer versions and I just bought a laptop from them.
[03:14] <seamus_> The other options are "Bark", "Drip", "Glass", and "Sonar".
[03:14] <seamus_> There is no "none".
[03:15] <stlu> Plus, my bet is it will be just as nasty with 12.04 or 12.10.
[03:15] <thetinyjesus> stlu: Samsung is the WORST computer manufacturer in the world
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> stlu: I recommend upgrading to 12.04, it is LTS so supported til April 2017
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: I'd say Acer
[03:15] <stlu> Well if I can't do it here then it wont work in 12.04.  this is apt-get I am fighting with.  http://pastebin.com/2JU2BUtq
[03:15] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: My samsung laptop was purchased in august this year, and they will not support windows 8
[03:16] <ipank> any help?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> stlu: if you simply install xfce4 or another desktop, you will get a new session to log in at the login screen
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: do you want windows 8?
[03:16] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: no drivers at all, thats why im desperately looking for a way to transfer songs to my iphone
[03:16] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: i thought i did, upgraded and found out no drivers work
[03:16] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: didnt think a brand new laptop with an I7 wouldn't work
[03:16] <stlu> Action-Parsnip: I am perfectly happy using TTY1, all I want is Unity and the crud gone. http://pastebin.com/2JU2BUtq
[03:17] <joseneto> My display driver is not working as a result my computer is really slow, please help
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> stlu: then uninstall xorg and the other apps will fail deps and when you use autoremove it will haul the rest of the stuff off
[03:18] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i know that out of principal, a new laptop should be windows 8 compliant, but do you think you would really need windows 8 over 7? i personally prefer 7, unless you have a touch screen monitor
[03:18] <BillyZane> then again, i have not tried windows 8, maybe it's really cool
[03:18] <seamus_> In fact, my whole desktop doesn't really look like the one in that picture. It is much plainer. Let me put up a screenshot.
[03:18] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: of course i didn't think i needed it but it's always fun to play around with new software and now im stuck and cannot transfer songs to my iphone
[03:19] <halp-pl0x> i have another question, why isnt my computer's ip adress showing up in my routers list? my router is showing that something is there (showing a mac address, but no name or ip adress). and im still able to access the internet from my computer???????
[03:19] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: os in this case
[03:19] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i recommend just sticking with 7 and if you want to try a new OS, try a linux OS if you haven't already, or maybe a BSD flavor
[03:19] <bean> halp-pl0x: have you rebooted your router?
[03:19] <halp-pl0x> yes
[03:19] <BillyZane> oh wait, i'm in #ubuntu, n/m you already have
[03:19] <eamon> what do I do if I forgot my sudo password?
[03:19] <bean> halp-pl0x, then your computer probably has a DHCP lease from before the reboot.
[03:20] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: i have windows 8 and ubuntu partitioned, windows 8 has ruined that partition and the only thing i ever used windows for was for syncing the iphone
[03:20] <halp-pl0x> bean: how to i renew it?
[03:20] <bean> halp-pl0x: it doesn't really need to be in your lease list
[03:20] <joseneto> My display driver is not working as a result my computer is really slow, please help. Acer aspire 5532 ATI Radeon HD3200. HELP!!
[03:20] <halp-pl0x> oh okay
[03:20] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: and i know how time consuming it would be to downgrade to windows 7 without screwing up the linux partition
[03:21] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i wouldnt use 8 even if i could :P
[03:21] <eamon> I forgot my sudo password; what do I do?
[03:21] <halp-pl0x> well also, i recently reinstalled windows on my computer, and it destroyed the grub menu,(it doesnt eve show it) and boots straight to windows. how do i fix that?
[03:21] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: neither would i it sucked for the few minutes it worked
[03:21] <stlu> ActionParsnip: I'll take you up on that.  Don't go anywhere.
[03:21] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: to be fair the week it worked and then suddenly all the drivers went haywire
[03:21] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: wow that sucks
[03:21] <seednode> Not sure what's going on here, but I kinda like Win8
[03:22] <eamon> How do I reset the password?
[03:22] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: im just in disbelief that with 100 million + iphones no one has figured out how to sync them up to ubuntu the most popular distro
[03:22] <kion> eamon: you need to log in with a live disk and reset it from there
[03:23] <bean> halp-pl0x: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[03:23] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: and as far as i know isn't apple based of unix? idk why it would be so difficult
[03:23] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i'm starting to regret even having an iphone/ipad. there's too much baggage
[03:23] <halp-pl0x> ty bean
[03:23] <eamon> kion, what is the command?
[03:23] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: because unix and linux are free, and apple is slavery
[03:23] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: well after owning an HTC Hero, HTC Evo, Galaxy SII/SIII I've given up with androids
[03:23] <seednode> BillyZane, tell me about it. I just use a dumbphone now
[03:24] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: all the same crap, the battery life is horrible and after a month the phone just simply sucks
[03:24] <BillyZane> the phone slows down to a crawl.
[03:24] <BillyZane> yeah, my ihphone 4 should not be this slow
[03:24] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: are you running ios 6 on it? that is probably why it started to run slow with even ios 5
[03:24] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: what's wrong with androids?
[03:25] <BillyZane> no, i'm running iOS5, i wouldn't dare use 6
[03:25] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: battery life/ running slow after a month
[03:25] <linux_is_my_hero> lets not forget that sometimes poorly programmed apps can kill a phone no matter what os its running
[03:25] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: but if the battery didn't slow, would it be ok?
[03:25] <linux_is_my_hero> *cough* facebook
[03:25] <BillyZane> linux_is_my_hero: i gotta delete some apps then
[03:25] <BillyZane> i have a 32gig iphone with 100mb free space
[03:25] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: not going to lie i just don't like them, even on the SIII the touch screen wasn't as responsive, the apps load slower,
[03:26] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: the good news is 'apt-get remove xorg' isn't trying to install OS/2 or some nonsence.  Nothing would surprise me anymore.
[03:26] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: youtube videos still have difficulty loading on google's own phone and probably the worst part is the fragmentation, everyone has their own software except if you get googles phone
[03:26] <BillyZane> thetinyjesus: i wish phones were more like PCs. where i can just install my own OS. i heard about that ubuntu OS. that sounds interesting
[03:26] <linux_is_my_hero> billyzane: its not anything you did.  the apps just keep getting bigger no matter what phone you have.  i had to delete some apps too.
[03:26] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: i looked into it, looks awesome obviously right now it's slow if you watch the demo videos but it has potential
[03:27] <XMLnewbi> so I'm failing to get nginx to work. Trying to go back to apache. I did a sudo apt-get install apache2           but there is no folder apache2 in the etc folder now
[03:27] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: now what - "suduo apt-get autoremove" ?
[03:27] <XMLnewbi> I need to figure out how to backup a clean install so I can restore it when I get myself in trouble like this
[03:27] <Keshav> HI guys
[03:28] <thetinyjesus> BillyZane: my problem with with owning android phones is unless you choose google's nexus phone or whatever they call it now, don't expect to get their lasted OS for months IF  ever
[03:28] <Keshav> I wanted to install cinamon on ubuntu 12.04 using cli
[03:28] <Keshav> How should I proceed
[03:28] <bean> Keshav what is cinnamon
[03:28] <Keshav> I have the ppa, but not the steps
[03:29] <Keshav> Desktop environment
[03:29] <thetinyjesus> cinnamon is a window manager
[03:29] <Keshav> for ubuntu
[03:29] <Keshav> anybody using it?
[03:29] <thetinyjesus> i am but i'm also running mint 14
[03:29] <spizzo> cinnamon? I'm using it on mint
[03:29] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: nothing is auto-removing >:|
[03:29] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i did install it on ubuntu 12.04 with no problems
[03:30] <eamon> is the sudo password the same as the root password?
[03:30] <spizzo> I'm reading up on apt-get commands and wondering why upgrade exists since the only difference between that and dist-upgrade seems to be smarter dependency resolution.
[03:30] <stlu_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove...
[03:30] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: if you want it sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable
[03:30] <thetinyjesus> then sudo apt-get update
[03:31] <spizzo> eamon: root password should be the password for the root account, sudo password should be the one for whichever account you're using.
[03:31] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: followed by sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[03:31] <eamon> spizzo: this is ubuntu, there is no root account…
[03:32] <eamon> So I don't know if that guide will work…
[03:32] <kion> eamon no, it is not the same, but gives you the same potential
[03:32] <eamon> ( http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3457-gentoo-linux-restoring-the-root-password )
[03:32] <stlu_> eamon: sudo gives you the same level of authority *as if* you were root.  Just add sudo before any commands in your tutorial.
[03:33] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: did you have a question on cinnamon or what?
[03:33] <stlu_> Keshav wants a cinnamon install tutorial
[03:33] <Keshav> yea
[03:33] <Keshav> Following your instructions downloading the package :)
[03:33] <eamon> would editing /etc/shadow from a livecd work?
[03:33] <joseneto> I cant install ati Radeon HD3200 on ubuntu 12.10 .Please HELP!!!!
[03:33] <kion> eamon
[03:33] <joseneto> acer aspire 5532 3GB
[03:33] <eamon> kion
[03:34] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: oh :P btw you should like it, been using it for a while with not a single crash yet, the last version had tons of bugs but not this one
[03:34] <kion> Go on a live cd and se the command sudo passwd USER
[03:34] <kion> where user is your lost password user
[03:34] <stlu_> eamon: if you are trying to change the root password then you haven't got it.
[03:34] <Keshav> Okay, never had this repository
[03:34] <stlu_> eamon: you only need your user password in Ubuntu.
[03:34] <Keshav> And is mint 14 a desktop environment or an altogether different OS?
[03:35] <LiThiuME3> should : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 58846 -j ACCEPT     forward port and accept connection from the port 58846
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: the xorg in quantal hates your gpu
[03:35] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: as far as i know its not different from ubuntu but i could be wrong i never really researched it that much, i think they use different file managers
[03:35] <joseneto> :(
[03:35] <Keshav> I see
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: there is a fix
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[03:35] <Keshav> btw do you type my name each time? Or is there a reply button on right click :|
[03:35] <spizzo> mint is another OS, but it is strongly related to ubuntu
[03:36] <joseneto> ActionParsnip
[03:36] <thetinyjesus> i type Kes and press tab
[03:36] <stlu_> Lithiume3: ACCEPT only allows the connection to your computer.  You need to make further changes to forward it to a second machine.
[03:36] <tonsofpcs> k<tab> = Keshav
[03:36] <joseneto> what do i do?
[03:36] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: for me its probably thet tab
[03:36] <Keshav> hmmm
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> joseneto: read the link I gave, why do you think I went and got it?
[03:36] <Keshav> When I Press tab it shows all the names starting with t
[03:36] <Keshav> Fiddling around
[03:36] <joseneto> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry
[03:36] <Keshav> should get it
[03:36] <joseneto> :0
[03:36] <joseneto> :)
[03:36] <Keshav> tonsofpcs,
[03:36] <Keshav> got it looks like
[03:36] <tonsofpcs> Keshav:
[03:36] <FloodBot1> Keshav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: theti TAB should be enough
[03:37] <LiThiuME3> stlu_ it's on my VPS I have Deluge running with a daemon on the for 58846 I cant connect from my home computer, So if I understand well i need to apply other commands in order to forward the port?
[03:37] <Keshav> yeah
[03:37] <Keshav> thetinyjesus :
[03:37] <Keshav> Phew
[03:37] <tonsofpcs> theti tab should pay for my drinks
[03:37] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, should pay for my drinks
[03:37] <Keshav> what, no, it shows comma after thetinyjesus!
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> lol
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> im broke unless the hartford insurance hires me after our phone interview
[03:38] <Keshav> lol :D
[03:38] <tonsofpcs> thetinyjesus: well, hopefully they hire you.  we need drinks :)
[03:38] <thetinyjesus> :P
[03:39] <pepee> anyone having problems with USB devices in 12.10?
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> tonsofpcs: ever drink some johnny walker blue label ?
[03:39] <tonsofpcs> thetinyjesus: not that I can recall.
[03:39] <stlu_> Lith: no, if you are trying to connect to a service on the same VPS then you only need to accept.  Forward would only be used to go from your VPS, to another VPS for example.
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> tonsofpcs: its friggin amazing
[03:39] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, after following the three commands, cli stopped downloading packages, so guess its time to restart?
[03:39] <nearst> hi all
[03:39] <Keshav> Or should I see the change without restarting the system
[03:39] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: you might be able to just log out and change environment if it doesnt work than yah have to reboot
[03:40] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Okay
[03:40] <tonsofpcs> ever spit 151 into a fire and had it light back close enough to your face that people think you set your eyebrows on fire?
[03:40] <Keshav> lol
[03:40] <LiThiuME3> stlu_ Ok thanks for the answer I guess I was looking at the wrong "solution" for my problem
[03:40] <thetinyjesus> lmao never drank 151
[03:40] <LiThiuME3> Thanks
[03:40] <thetinyjesus> i enjoy whiskey
[03:40] <stlu_> Lith: no problem, I figured that out back when I wanted to make a computer into a router.
[03:41] <LiThiuME3> stlu_ hehehe ^^
[03:41] <stlu_> ActionParsnip!
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> stlu_: ?
[03:42] <thetinyjesus> anyone remember playing ultima online or counter strike 1.6... damn i miss those times
[03:42] <stlu_> I removed xorg your silly suggestion.  How do I automatically get rid of all the higher level dependant packages?
[03:42] <stlu_> "autoremove" does not show any candidates.
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: I remember the early CS betas etc, great times
[03:42] <nearst> cs 1.6
[03:43] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: hell yah dude, never in my life have i went to a LAN party other than once for counter strike tournament best time ever playing a game
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: where the Ts were short sleved versions of the CTs
[03:43] <kewel> which is faster on an old machine running lubuntu, chrome or firefox?
[03:43] <nearst> cs and dota
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: where did cs_industry go :(
[03:44] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: no idea, i wonder if anyone still plays 1.6.. source ruined it
[03:44] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: actually no call of duty ruined it lol.. god damn lag compensation makes me wanna rip my hair out
[03:45] <thetinyjesus> im shooting you im shooting you!! dead.. watch kill cam.. never shot a bullet
[03:45] <stlu_> Action...
[03:47] <thetinyjesus> no way people actually still play counter strike ?? i might have to install steam
[03:48] <Keshav> Ofcourse people play it a lot
[03:48] <Keshav> Well, Cs Go is catching steam right now
[03:48] <joseneto> ActionParsnip can i get corelDraw x6 working in ubuntu 12.10 how about adobe products?
[03:49] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: how's that cinnamon
[03:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Well, checking the settings, I do not see any difference in the interface, its weird, something's wrong probably
[03:50] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: do you know if you can play 1.6 with an integrated graphics card on laptop? nvidia 310m
[03:50] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: yeah the interface should be completely different
[03:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Ofcourse you can
[03:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No there is no change in interface :o
[03:51] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: damn.. hmm did you reboot too?
[03:51] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, hmmm
[03:51] <joseneto> can i get corelDraw x6 working in ubuntu 12.10 how about adobe products?
[03:52] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: im looking into that, strange someone else said that happened to them and if they login with guest cinnamon looks perfect
[03:52] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Its loaded, maybe I should check, what I was expecting to change
[03:52] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: unity should be gone :P
[03:52] <Keshav> maybe
[03:53] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Trying to login via Guest lets see what happens
[03:53] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: okay
[03:55] <guest-tXq38B> thetinyjesus, looks like I don't know what should change :P
[03:56] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, nothing changed lol
[03:56] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, time to switch to youtube video
[03:56] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm yeah ill watch some too save you some time
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: cinnamon isn't supported here, it may also cause issues as its  3rd party package
[03:57] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: ugh 2nd video exact same way i showed you
[03:58] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No its ok, I'll try and help myself
[03:58] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: i've gotten it to work perfect on ubuntu
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: just install xfce4 package and log off, log in to the xfce session
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: its still 3rd party, so there is no real way of knowing it will fly
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: the packages in the official repo are tested and are known to work
[03:59] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: could it have something to do with them switching to nemo file manager?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: no idea, sorry
[04:00] <Keshav> ActionParsnip, you mod?
[04:01] <kion> When I upgraded to 12.10, my google earth was gone!   I downloaded the .deb and when I run it, the software manager says it is of bad quality. Has anyone had this problem?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: mod what?
[04:03] <stlu_> ActionParsnip: I reported your suggestion to a Ubuntu Admin.  I know how to fix that but I don't know how to stop you from being a jerk.
[04:04] <stlu_> Have a nice day
[04:04] <thetinyjesus> lol
[04:05] <lf_> sd
[04:05] <pyro254750> anybody have any experience with internet connectivity issues on the client side of openvpn?
[04:05] <PhatTony> Nothing to fear but fear its self
[04:05] <kion> ActionParsnip: you are not a jerk, actually thanks for all your help and effort that you put in supporting Ubuntu!!!! I am with you,
[04:06] <thetinyjesus> i didnt see actionparsnip say one negative thing
[04:06] <dah81> Hi all, I've tried the forums and searched the zillions of topics on the issue but I am still stuck and wondering if anyone can help me get my NVidia GT 520 working in either 12.04 or 12.10?
[04:07] <kion> dah81: have you tried installing Nvidias Drivers?
[04:08] <dah81> yes, tried nouveau and nvidia proprietary
[04:08] <dah81> from x-swat and from nvidia.com
[04:09] <kion> dah81: it is not complicated, 1st you download the latest driver from Nvidia,      2nd you make it executable,     3rd you switch to a tty ctrl+alt+f1    4th  sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop  5th sudo sh NVIDIA_Driver_Naem
[04:09] <dah81> yup, that's what i tried
[04:09] <kion> dah81 6th you reboot
[04:09] <dr_willis> and hope it worked.
[04:09] <dah81> i get to reboot, and it just loads a blank aubergine coloured screen
[04:10] <kion> strange I usa an NVIDI GTX 260M and it works
[04:10] <dr_willis> tried the nomoseset option?
[04:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Bingo!
[04:10] <dah81> yes, nomodeset tried
[04:10] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: got it?
[04:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, It worked :D Didn't do that interface change thing at the logon screen, Yeah!
[04:11] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: lol
[04:11] <dah81> as well as various other grub options found on the net and forums
[04:11] <kion> dah81: the same driver has an uninstall option
[04:11] <kion> try uninstalling it
[04:11] <kion> and re installing
[04:11] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: thats the best part, it it doesnt work as planned or you dont like it you just switch back to unity
[04:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Thanks a lot mahn :D
[04:11] <kion> dah81: I am guessing
[04:12] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: glad it did, you can customize tons of stuff on it too
[04:12] <Keshav> Yeah, will do that :D
[04:12] <reb_> hi
[04:13] <rdsm> hi
[04:13] <avickery> Need advice on best command line diff tool to integrate with git
[04:13] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, One query, any way to find out the  total memory used by the setup files in File system?
[04:13] <dah81> hmmm, k, I'll try it. If it doesn't work maybe I'll make a forum post detailing what I've tried and my setup and the results so far
[04:13] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, or specifically the drive on which ubuntu is installed
[04:13] <dah81> thanks for your help kion
[04:13] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm, never even looked into that TBH
[04:14] <thetinyjesus> menu-admin-system info
[04:14] <kion> dah81: sorry I dont know more, I have been frustrated with my Nvidia card in the past
[04:14] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: seems to have quite a bit
[04:14] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, hmmm, switched to Ubuntu from Win last week, doesn't look like I'll switch back to Win again except for games
[04:14] <avickery> good boy
[04:15] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i switched linux like 2 years ago, never use windows other than games/ transferring songs to iphone
[04:15] <reb_> i'm having trouble with my CDs.  ubuntu wont read them
[04:15] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, hmm
[04:15] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: do all your torrenting on linux and even use as media server
[04:15] <dr_willis> reb_: what kind of cd
[04:15] <rdsm> After a kernel panic on a Sony Vaio Duo , The keyboard is not responding even on the bios, any one knows if the keyboard on this machine needs a specific driver on the UEFI boot files? The original boot partitions were overwritten by ubuntu during install process.
[04:16] <reb_> normal -R CD
[04:16] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i also made a 3rd partition on mine, one that both windows and linux reads so all my downloads are visible on windows as well
[04:16] <Keshav> Didn't try making this as media server, however as of torrenting, when the net gets dc, the files go corrupt :\
[04:16] <dr_willis> reb_: try mounting them by hand
[04:16] <reb_> it works when i boot up in windows
[04:16] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, yea even I did that
[04:16] <reb_> it just wont read them otherwise
[04:16] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: nice dude, best way to do it
[04:17] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: did you try menu> admin> system info for what you were looking for
[04:17] <Keshav> Oh wait
[04:19] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No, why, I didn't find system info in admin!
[04:19] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm maybe that's just a mint thing im not sure where that option is for ubuntu, it shows your filesystem and memory usage
[04:19] <kion> How do I get rid of the guest account?
[04:19] <dr_willis> reb_: try mounting them by hand. look for error messages
[04:20] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Okay maybe
[04:20] <reb_> it's kinda hard to make a Linux live CD when it says please insert CD when ever i try to add files
[04:20] <kion> Keshav what info are you looking for?
[04:20] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Any suggestions for torrent files? They go corrupt, sometimes, if the net gets dc
[04:20] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: really even with transmission ?
[04:20] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Yep!~
[04:21] <Keshav> kion system info, that is the memory used by the partition on which ubuntu is installed
[04:21] <dr_willis> reb_:  that made no sence.. add files where?
[04:21] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: does the same thing happen if you close transmission and re open it?
[04:21] <kion> Keshav I am trying to remember the command for that, unfortunately I left my Ubuntu laptop at office
[04:22] <reb_> i want to make a Linux live CD but every time i try putting anything on the CD it says there's nothing there
[04:22] <dr_willis> reb_:  you mean you are trying to  burn an ISO file to a cd?
[04:22] <reb_> yes
[04:22] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Yea, unfortunately it won't do the integrity check either, so I have to re download the torrent everytime and make it read the downloaded files
[04:23] <dr_willis> that wasent what you were asking earlier,
[04:23] <kion> Keshav try fsck -l
[04:23] <kion> on a terminal
[04:23] <dr_willis> reb_:  what burner app are you trying to use
[04:23] <reb_> just the normal file
[04:23] <Keshav> kion, did that, it open settings for repair
[04:23] <dr_willis> just the normal file - tells me nothing.
[04:23] <dr_willis> !burn
[04:24] <Keshav> opened*
[04:24]  * cfhowlett details, people!
[04:24] <reb_> ty
[04:24] <kion> Keshav make shure you give the l as in list option
[04:24] <dr_willis> reb_:  its possible the app is looking for /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd when it should be looking for /dev/sr0
[04:24] <kion> fsck -l
[04:24] <Keshav> oh wait lol
[04:24] <Keshav> I used 1
[04:25] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm wow i never noticed but mine does the same thing
[04:25] <Keshav> kioin It says the file system is mounted, a warning that is, plus it says, if you continue, you will cause sever system damage!
[04:26] <kion> keshav, dont continue!
[04:26] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Moreover there isn't a way to download torrent files and save them to hdd
[04:26] <Keshav> kion yea stopped at that
[04:26] <kion> try man -k partition  for a list of possible commands, I miss my ubuntu laptop
[04:27] <Keshav> kion IT says apropos what?
[04:28] <itsrachelfish> is there any way to make the sensors command continue to output?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> itsrachelfish: could write a little bash command to run, wait then repeat
[04:29] <itsrachelfish> ...why
[04:29] <itsrachelfish> okay how about this
[04:29] <kion> keshav if you type "man -k partition" it should give you a list of commands that have the word partition on their manual pages
[04:29] <itsrachelfish> I want a simple command line temperature monitoring program
[04:30] <itsrachelfish> how can this not exist?
[04:31] <kion> Keshav
[04:31] <kion> Keshav try this sudo fdisk -l
[04:31] <kion> Keshav l as in list!!!
[04:31] <Keshav> kion yea did that
[04:31] <Keshav> kion looks like I got it
[04:32] <kion> ok good!
[04:32] <rdsm> itsrachelfish, sensors
[04:33] <rdsm> itsrachelfish, watch -n 1 sensors
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> itsrachelfish: http://poundcomment.wordpress.com/2009/08/28/ubuntu-cpu-temperature-terminal-prompt/
[04:35] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: try doing this it just fixed my transmission problem
[04:35] <fred-fri> im a dev. i need to open port 25 to test a mail program im making. currently it is closed, e.g if i do telnet localhost 25 i get connection refused
[04:36] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: edit>preferences - click downloading tab
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> rdsm: thank you for the watch -n tip
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> :)
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> that's exactly what I needed
[04:36] <itsrachelfish> #useful
[04:36] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: at bottom incomplete check keep incomplete torrents in: and select whatever folder you want
[04:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: start a download wait till it gets to like 5 megs or 10 megs w/e close program
[04:37] <kion> itsrachelfish: I would just cat the /proc file contaning the temperature your are looking
[04:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: when you reopen right click the torrent and verify local data
[04:37] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: im assuming it's putting the data in a temp folder thats losing the information or something? not sure
[04:37] <selite> Guys how do I install Sun's Java on Ubuntu? Most methods online fail to install it.
[04:37] <rdsm> fred-fri, sudo nc -l 25
[04:37] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, looks like it
[04:38] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, playing with the settings
[04:38] <kion> k
[04:38] <Daxter> x/ow
[04:38] <Daxter> er wrong app. darnit
[04:38] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: its definitely working for me doing it that way, every time i reopen transmission its paused and i just have to re verify the data and its back to where it was
[04:39] <fred-fri> rdsm: thanks, i ran that and entered my password but now it looks like that terminal froze lol
[04:39] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Okay, checking it
[04:39] <selite> How do I install sun's java?
[04:39] <fred-fri> rdsm: the caret is blinking but i get no new prompt
[04:40] <Daxter> hey i messed up my java install somehow when I tried upgrading to java7 via webupd8's ppa for it. now minecraft won't run (except in a VM) :(. Any ideas?
[04:40] <rdsm> fred-fri, the nc is now listening on port 25 until you close that program , run telnet in other terminal and it will connect
[04:40] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i noticed i loose like 5-10 megs my guess is maybe instead of having corrupt data it backtracks itself a little bit
[04:40] <fred-fri> rdsm: ok
[04:41] <grim4593> I have used gsettings to move my minimize, maximize, and close buttons to the right side of the screen. However, when the window is maximized the buttons jump back to the left. Is there a way to fix this?
[04:41] <fred-fri> rdsm: cool thanks
[04:41] <rdsm> fred-fri, glad to help.
[04:42] <dr_willis> grim4593:  no. since the buttons are part of the global menu stuff. and not part of the window after you  maxamize
[04:42] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: just started DL at 70 megs, stopped at 103 restarted at 84 better than 0 i guess lol
[04:43] <grim4593> I see
[04:44] <rdsm> After a kernel panic on a Sony Vaio Duo , The keyboard is not responding even on the bios, any one knows if the keyboard on this machine needs a specific driver on the UEFI boot files? or is it probably a hardware failure? (are UEFI boot partitions even loaded before the BIOS?) The original boot partitions were overwritten by ubuntu during install process.
[04:45] <soupwell> not sure this is the best place to ask my question; if someone has a better suggestion, please let me know.  I have started a pptp VPN server on my home server. I can connect to it, but I cannot "see" my local machines. I am beginning to suspect that the problem is that the network I am physically in (my hotel wifi) uses the same ip range as my home network (192.168.1.x). In my imperfect understanding of how the routing happens, I am guessing that when I tr
[04:45] <selite> Stupid cunts.
[04:45] <cfhowlett> rdsm, look at re-flashing/restoring your bios ... good luck with that
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !ops|selite,
[04:46] <b1lly> when downloading packages, I always get confused -- is there an easy way to tell which ones I need
[04:46] <b1lly> sometimes it asks for my "architecture" etc, and theres always different versions
[04:47] <cfhowlett> b1lly, use software center
[04:47] <elky> cfhowlett, they quit on their own
[04:47] <cfhowlett> elky, so I see.
[04:47] <cfhowlett> b1lly, "architecture" asks if you're on a 32 or 64 bit machine
[04:47] <Daxter> soupwell: I don't remember why, but if there is a LAN conflict with addys and your VPN, the computer will always try to connect to whoever has the address on the LAN your on, not your VPN
[04:48] <b1lly> cfhowlett: so amd64 is 64 bit and i386 is 32
[04:48] <cfhowlett> b1lly, correct
[04:48] <Daxter> the easy trick is to set your 3rd octet to something that isn't default (eg 192.168.SETTHIS.blah)
[04:48] <rdsm> cfhowlett, I haven't thought about that but if I need to do it I'll take it to technical service tomorrow , sony created that mess machine , I'll let sony handle it... thanks tor the tip anyway :)
[04:49] <soupwell> Daxter: does that mean I'm SOL if I'm on a LAN that conflicts with my VPN? It seems like this would be a common enough problem that there would be a workaround
[04:49] <cfhowlett> rdsm, best of luck.  don't tell them *ubuntu* or they will likely claim a warranty violation
[04:49] <soupwell> ah
[04:49] <soupwell> thanks
[04:49] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, it won't work
[04:49] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: its restarting from 0 for you?
[04:50] <soupwell> argh, I was hoping not to have to restructure the home network
[04:50] <Daxter> soupwell: yes you are SOL till you can get back to your lan and change your addressing. As far as a workaround I dont knwo of any
[04:50] <rdsm> cfhowlett, Oh, I'll delete the partitions before, (their rescue utility already erased one of them for me anyway...) , thanks again.
[04:50] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, No you did not understand, if I would download the torrent again, it would verify the cache, but suppose if a torrent while downloading, the net gets disconnected, then the downloads cannot be started from the same torrent file
[04:50] <soupwell> thanks for the input. I'll see if I can get it done via ssh
[04:51] <Daxter> np
[04:51] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: hmm i'm lost on that one never experienced that
[04:52] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Is there any way to save torrents?
[04:52] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Instead of directly allowing them to open in Transmission or another client?
[04:53] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i cant seem to get magnet links to work on linux to be able to save as
[04:53] <TheLordOfTime> Keshav, right click the link, save target as, <save> ?
[04:53] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: some websites i go to allow that option but like piratebay never has that
[04:53] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: its grayed out on most sites
[04:53] <TheLordOfTime> thetinyjesus, screenshots or lies, its worked for me for eons
[04:54] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: okay ill screen shot
[04:55] <dr_willis> greying out the save as? i think theres extensions to get around that. ;)
[04:55] <Keshav> TheLordOfTime, no it won't save :o
[04:56] <Keshav> TheLordOfTime, btw am using firefox
[04:56] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: is there a reason i cant take a screenshot with right click option open
[04:56] <rdsm> Keshav, there are firefox add-ons to get the .torrent from the magnet, googled here and found one called magrent. but I never used it...
[04:57] <TheLordOfTime> Keshav, there's probably extensions to get around that.  I've never had issues with it, but i don't use piratebay.  for anything.
[04:57] <thetinyjesus> TheLordOfTime: im using chrome and it wont allow me to either
[04:57] <thetinyjesus> and it comes up with this message under the link
[04:57] <thetinyjesus> Problems with magnets links are fixed by upgrading your torrent client!
[04:58] <Keshav> yep it says that, and to go awy with it, it requires to download some another crappy browser
[04:58] <b1lly> I used software center to install xmonad, but I have no idea how to run it or find it now...
[04:58] <Keshav> open dashboard and seach
[04:59] <b1lly> ya its not there
[04:59] <Keshav> Open software center> All softwares Type xmonad in search bar, check if you have it
[04:59] <dr_willis> b1lly:  then why did you install it?
[04:59] <rdsm> b1lly, xmonad is a window manager , after installing it'll show as an option on the login screen, beware that xmonad needs to be configured before use since it works based on shortcuts.
[05:00] <Keshav> rdsm, that helped thanks :)
[05:00] <b1lly> rdsm: ok, great, where can I configure it
[05:00] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: i switched to firefox, and i have a 2nd option get torrent file
[05:00] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: which allows me to save as
[05:00] <kaushal> Hi
[05:01] <rdsm> b1lly, ~/.config/xmonad if I am not mistaken , you should google to learn about it , xmonad is not for beginners
[05:01] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: using firefox 18.0.1 but looks to be specific to mint
[05:01] <dr_willis> xmonad is definatly not for beginners
[05:01] <kaushal> Any tool to draw block diagram for example list out servers,switches and routers..?
[05:02] <dr_willis> !info dia
[05:02] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, looks like, earlier there was no option to save it as torrent file
[05:02] <kaushal> dr_willis: ok
[05:02] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, However with magrent as rdsm said it became easy :D
[05:02] <Sgt_Shultz> using xubuntu here, torrent work from firefox flawlessly with delege
[05:02] <Sgt_Shultz> deluge
[05:03] <Keshav> Sgt_Shultz, it was about being able to save torrent files and not opening them directly in deluge
[05:03] <folorn> any idea how to see your ip information etc from the terminal ? i forget
[05:03] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: just found out something weird.. it depends on the torrent file itself i opened that torrent link in chrome and it worked too and tried "the hobbit" and there was no get torrent file option
[05:03] <xubuntu_> Has anyone else had issues with htop displaying certain threads using 100% when idle?
[05:03] <Sgt_Shultz> well firefox saves a copy in downloads, 4 me anyway
[05:03] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Download magrent addon in firefox,
[05:03] <Daxter> Somehow I messed up my java install when I tried upgrading to java7 from java6-openjdk via webupd8's ppa for java7. But now any JAva apps won't run, except in a VM. Any ideas?
[05:04] <pyro254750> folorn: try ifconfig
[05:04] <dr_willis> Daxter:  uninstall them all and reinsrtall the one you  want perhaps.
[05:04] <thetinyjesus> magnet fixer?
[05:04] <dr_willis> Daxter:  check what java you are using also.. java -version
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> Daxter: i suggest you contact the ppa maintainer
[05:04] <dr_willis> !java
[05:04] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, magrent
[05:04] <folorn> thanks pyro254750
[05:05] <dr_willis> the webupd8 ppa is just a script  that does what i think the java factoid outlines.
[05:05] <fred-fri> rdsm: so if i telnet i get the output with your command
[05:05] <fred-fri> rdsm: my mail program seems to be able to open a connection to port 25 too, but i dont see any output produced
[05:05] <rdsm> fred-fri, if you telnet you will be sending information for the netcat application.
[05:05] <Daxter> i unistalled java7, but java6 isnt running right. java -version reports the OpenJDK, java 1.6
[05:05] <b1lly> rdsm: any "easier" window manager utilities like xmonad?
[05:06] <fred-fri> rdsm: right, but i actually want my mail program that im developing to connect to it
[05:06] <fred-fri> rdsm: which it does, i just dont get any output
[05:06] <fred-fri> rdsm: even though my mail program is sending stuff there
[05:06] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: yup works new option download .torrent file when right click
[05:06] <nebula> bhu123
[05:06] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: nice one
[05:07] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Say thanks to rdsm  :)
[05:07] <thetinyjesus> rdsm: you rock :D
[05:07] <Keshav> :po
[05:07] <Keshav> :P
[05:07] <rdsm> b1lly, what do you mean like xmonad? what kind of feature are you looking for?
[05:07] <b1lly> something to manage my windows
[05:08] <dr_willis> thats a little vague b1lly
[05:08] <b1lly> I want to be able to snap applications/windows to the left/right side of my screen easily
[05:08] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: did that fix your problem you were having
[05:08] <rdsm> b1lly, gnome...
[05:08] <b1lly> with keyboard shortcuts
[05:08] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Probably it should,
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> BillyZane: compiz has the grid plugin
[05:08] <Daxter> hmm now it seems to work. I don't knwo what to say...
[05:08] <pyro254750> billy, if you are running gnome you can use ctrl+alt+ left and right
[05:08] <pyro254750> compiz also has similar features
[05:08] <b1lly> pyro254750: that just switches my workspace
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> BillyZane: you can assign a shortcut key to it too (i belive)
[05:08] <b1lly> compiz doesnt seem to work on my machine for some reason
[05:08] <b1lly> even though I have it enabled
[05:09] <rdsm> fred-fri, you will receive the output of the connection on the terminal with netcat open , I don't remember eSMTP RFC from my mind, you should read the documentation regarding the protocol or install a smtp server on your machine.
[05:09] <pyro254750> ah you mean to snap the app from space to space?
[05:09] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: thats the benefit of linux always keeps your brain active :P
[05:09] <b1lly> sure
[05:09] <b1lly> yeah
[05:09] <b1lly> so if i had 2 apps open
[05:09] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, :P
[05:09] <b1lly> i can snap one to the leftside taking up 50% and one to the right side taking up 50%
[05:09] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, I just wanted even the games to work :D
[05:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, They would work with Wine but fps is comparatively lower as compared to win
[05:10] <rdsm> b1lly,  ctrl+super(windoze key)+ left/right
[05:10] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: sometimes its possible to get certain games to work but its hit or miss and a pain in the ass lol
[05:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, yea that is
[05:10] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, true
[05:10] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: theres not a lot of documentation on how to do it either
[05:11] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: like wine will work for a lot of games but the performance kinda sucks at least in my experience
[05:11] <pyro254750> billy: ctrl + alt + num will snap windows to left/right in varying sizes
[05:11] <b1lly> rdsm: the left and right dont work
[05:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Yeah, but wine does it flawlessly for some games I tried, Yeah the performance is low
[05:11] <b1lly> rdsm: only up and down (to maximzied)
[05:11] <b1lly> pyro254750: that don't work either
[05:11] <b1lly> I believe those are both "features" of compiz
[05:11] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Nevermind one or two quarters and we will have steam box for linux as well :D
[05:11] <b1lly> and like I said, compiz isn't working properly on my machine
[05:11] <pyro254750> ctrl + alt + num is a unity feature
[05:12] <b1lly> well it doesn't do anything on my machine
[05:12] <thetinyjesus> psh that would be great playing some CS on linux
[05:12] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, Then it would be possible to play games on ubunut too :D :P
[05:12] <pyro254750> whatchu talkin bout, its already possible
[05:13] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: with good performance
[05:13] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, That torrent thing works great, now no corrupted files :P
[05:13] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: good deal man
[05:13] <pyro254750> yes, with good performance
[05:13] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: have a guide for it? or is it just wine
[05:13] <pyro254750> its wine, but its not just simply launching with wine. youve gotta play with the settings
[05:14] <rdsm> b1lly, open system preferences , go to keyboard,  shortcuts tab , navigation option , you should be able to it there.
[05:14] <pyro254750> but after a bit of tweaking ive got wow running at 60fps+ on 3 screens
[05:14] <rdsm> *you should be able to set it there.
[05:14] <thetinyjesus> hmm going to have to look into this i wanna play some CS
[05:14] <Keshav> thetinyjesus, you stay in?
[05:15] <thetinyjesus> Keshav: huh?
[05:15] <Keshav> Vinius I meant to ask :)
[05:16] <pyro254750> thetinyjesus, im pretty sure there is a counterstrike port
[05:16] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: looking into it now
[05:16] <b1lly> rdsm: that only allows me to setup controlling workspaces
[05:16] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: i hope so :)
[05:17] <thetinyjesus> would you look at that, 14 hours ago Steam released Ubuntu Beta
[05:17] <pyro254750> I also seem to recall reading somewhere that valve was going to be doing alot with steam and linux, which should mean native for most of their games
[05:17] <thetinyjesus> it just came out for beta :)
[05:18] <dr_willis> the not so beta beta
[05:18] <thetinyjesus> whats that mean lol
[05:18] <pyro254750> probably that its buggy, lol
[05:19] <pyro254750> going to find out soon enough, dling
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> where the hecks the dl link lol
[05:19] <pyro254750> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[05:19] <pyro254750> click install
[05:19] <thetinyjesus> nvm
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> i really hope its playable
[05:20] <thetinyjesus> it uses your normal steam account im assuming ?
[05:20] <pyro254750> yeah
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> going to have to get a new one its been like 8 years since i played CS
[05:21] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, Do you play kz?
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: naw only played CS from steam
[05:21] <thetinyjesus> or you mean kill zone
[05:21] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, Kz = kreedz mod in CS, wonder you don't know it :o Bhop and climbing maps?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: Urban terror is a lot like couter strike, plus it has wall jumping :)
[05:22] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: naw man never played those damn i cant wait and is urban terror free?
[05:22] <rdsm> b1lly, sorry , you're right. my mistake, have you tried Ctrl + (Win key) + left or right , and it didn't worked?
[05:23] <pyro254750> it looks like they want you to pay for games again for linux version
[05:23] <rdsm> b1lly,  Are you using unity? what application are you trying to do it?
[05:23] <b1lly> rdsm: yeah, yeah
[05:23] <b1lly> well, any (even chrome)
[05:23] <rdsm> b1lly, ubuntu 12.10?
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: really dan
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> damn
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: that kreedz mod looks like the jump levels from UT
[05:24] <keshav_> Btw anybody tried using any cleaning software? Like ccleaner for windows, does anything exist on similar terms for 12.04?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: bleachbit
[05:24] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, maybe, never played UT
[05:24] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[05:24] <thetinyjesus> mines still updating steam
[05:24] <pyro254750> yeah, all the games I have purchased on my account dont come up, but when i search for them they are "linux games" and they want like 20 bucks a peice for them, lol
[05:25] <pyro254750> I guess no native halflife on linux right now
[05:25] <thetinyjesus> jesus
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> pyro254750: it runs excellently in Wine
[05:25] <thetinyjesus> the games still cost 20 bucks?
[05:25] <keshav_> pyro254750, yep use wine!
[05:25] <b1lly> rdsm: i'm trying to use compiz to do any of the effects, but unfortunately not of them work
[05:25] <kewel> how to change lubuntu menu items to run chrome with flags? much thx
[05:25] <pyro254750> sounds good to me
[05:25] <dr_willis> hmm. my games showed a few weeks ago
[05:25] <rdsm> b1lly, oh you are using compiz?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: I recommend you make a copy of the file that launches it in /usr/share/applications   and then open it in gedit. You can then make your own options and so forth
[05:26] <b1lly> rdsm: I tried to use it, but it doesn't work for me
[05:26] <rubiconjosh> I remember reading you may have to pay for the same game for each operating system due to development costs for the porting
[05:26] <b1lly> rdsm: nothing compiz related seems to work
[05:26] <rdsm> b1lly, are you on ubuntu 12.10?
[05:26] <b1lly> yeah, the latest
[05:26] <dr_willis> kewel: find the chrome.desktop file copy it. customize it
[05:27] <kewel> dr_willis: sweet thanks!
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: sudo cp /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop; gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: ^
[05:27] <pyro254750> oh wait I see. when I search for it, it shows a price, but if you click on it then it tells you that you own it
[05:27] <rdsm> b1lly, hold down the super key , and see if a keyboard shortcuts list appear.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: sorry, wrong target
[05:27] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, Trying to understand
[05:27] <thetinyjesus> so everything is universal ?
[05:28] <rdsm> b1lly, the one you're looking for is supposed to be in the lower right of that list.
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> kewel ^   sorry
[05:28] <thetinyjesus> im willing to buy CS for linux but wanna make sure i can play on windows if it doesnt work
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> its been a long night
[05:28] <b1lly> i dont see keyboard shortcuts
[05:28] <b1lly> the super key is the "windows" key correct?
[05:28] <thetinyjesus> i lost all my old information
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: yes
[05:29] <rubiconjosh> billy: did you hold the super key for at least three seconds?
[05:29] <rdsm> b1lly, exactly , you should hold it for a few seconds.
[05:29] <b1lly> ya
[05:29] <b1lly> nothing shows up
[05:29] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, how do I fine the file that launches it :|
[05:29] <b1lly> the only thing that shows up are numbers and stuff
[05:29] <b1lly> on my icons to the left
[05:29] <b1lly> aka my toolbar or w/e
[05:29] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, actually new to Ubuntu, installed it jsut a week ago
[05:29] <kewel> actionparsnip: cool .. checking it out ...
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: I just gave you it. run the command in terminal
[05:30] <rdsm> b1lly, I guess these features are from compiz, unity uses it asbackend.
[05:30] <b1lly> yeah, but compiz doesn't work for me
[05:31] <b1lly> I can configure the settings
[05:31] <b1lly> but nothing I choose in it actually has any effecty
[05:31] <rdsm> have you restarted the graphical interface?
[05:31] <pyro254750> rdsm, i had those features on my laptop prior to compiz install, im pretty sure its a unity thing
[05:31] <keshav_> sudo cp /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop; gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/my-google-chrome.desktop
[05:31] <keshav_> what will the above command do? Is it one? Or any colons that differ it into two commands ActionParsnip
[05:32] <pyro254750> also, some apps will not allow the shortcut popup to come up, its best to click on the desktop and THEN hold down the super key
[05:32] <OptimizedCoder> In gdb, how do I redirect the o/p of a certain gdb command to a file (instead of stdout)?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: yes its all one, you can then edit the Exec= line as you wish, and the Display Name line, so that it appears differently in the menus
[05:33] <rdsm> pyro254750, ohh yeah, that's is true , you should try it b1lly. also have you tried restarting the graphical interface after config with compiz?
[05:33] <b1lly> rdsm: how do I do that
[05:34] <b1lly> rdsm: and yeah, I think I have video card issues or compiz is conflicting withs omething
[05:34] <rdsm> pyro254750, ctrl + alt + backspace still works?
[05:34] <b1lly> rdsm: is there anyway to check if compiz is working properly
[05:34] <keshav_> ActionParsnip, it opened two documents in gedit, thats it
[05:34] <rdsm> b1lly, compiz is not my strong point , maybe pyro254750 can help you better.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> keshav_: it should only open one. the desktop file is what manages the menu items. you can then edit it as you wish. You need to make a copy or the updates will overwrite your efforts
[05:35] <pyro254750> rdsm, yes ctrl + alt + backspace works, but you have to enable it in keyboard layout options
[05:36] <b1lly> ctrl+alt+backspace doesnt do anything for me
[05:37] <kewel> cool it werked.
[05:37] <thetinyjesus> omfg i think i just found my old steam account
[05:37] <pyro254750> rdsm, you can also use sudo restart lightdm
[05:37] <rdsm> b1lly, sorry man I suggest asking on the channel I am not the best one to help with it , but certainly gnome fits your needs.
[05:38] <rdsm> b1lly, I suggest trying this command last informed by pyro254750
[05:38] <XMLnewbi> so I accedently edited my original default nginx config file.             I keep reinstalling nginx with sudo apt-get uninstall but files dont change back
[05:38] <b1lly> ;/
[05:39] <kewel> ß
[05:39] <rdsm> b1lly, sorry dude I am not god. :))
[05:39]  * kewel found the character map
[05:39] <b1lly> no doubt, thanks for effort
[05:39] <thetinyjesus> whattt counter-strike not available for linux steam??
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: run:  killall -u $USER    and it will do the same
[05:39] <rubiconjosh> billy: I missed what your problem is. Compiz settings are not doing anything?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: i'd ask in the channel for the app
[05:40] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: what you mean?
[05:40] <pyro254750> billy, you should be able to get compiz settings up with ccsm
[05:40] <rdsm> rubiconjosh, shortcuts ctrl+super+left/right are not half-maximizing the app and holding super is not showing the shortcuts.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: well, this is the channel for ubuntu, is there a channel for steam?
[05:40] <Avinash> hi
[05:41] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: not sure theres a bunch of us figuring it out in here
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> pyro254750: ccsm is known to cause issues
[05:41] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, No there isn't one for linux
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[05:41] <keshav_> thetinyjesus, That's why people suggested wine here
[05:41] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: is it allowing you to install CS?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: try in  #ubuntu-steam
[05:42] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: im about to try wine
[05:42] <thetinyjesus> keshav_: soo excited i found my old CS account
[05:42] <pyro254750> thetinyjesus: no, so far the only one I can find thats linux compatible is TF2
[05:42] <keshav_> yea do that, the performance decreases is only 5-10%
[05:42] <Avinash> tnx
[05:42] <rubiconjosh> billy: What graphics card do you have?
[05:42] <keshav_> hi Avinash
[05:43] <Avinash> hi
[05:43] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, purge instead of uninstall will remove everything including the config files, but I guess that it's easier to find the default config file on google...
[05:44] <Ben64> How can I tell which DNS servers a system is currently using? (12.04)
[05:44] <b1lly> pyro254750: ccsm?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: nslookup bbc.co.uk     may show it
[05:44] <Nach0z> check /etc/resolv.conf
[05:44] <Nach0z> may or may not have a nameserver listed
[05:44] <thetinyjesus> pyro254750: any tips on using wine for steam?
[05:44] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, just installed nginx here, I can send you the default .conf at pvt if you want.
[05:44] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: nice, thanks
[05:45] <pyro254750> billy: ccsm is the compiz config settings manager. I personally havent had any issues with it, but actionparsnip indicated that it is known to cause issues
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: why wine for steam, there is a native app
[05:45] <thetinyjesus> ActionParsnip: counter-strike isn't part of the native app
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> pyro254750: Billy: there is a warning now when you first use it
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> thetinyjesus: i see
[05:46] <Ben64> thetinyjesus: steam works really well on wine, i never had a problem with it
[05:46] <pyro254750> thetinyjesus: counterstrike should be capable of running independant of steam direct from the .exe. If i were going to try it with wine, thats how I would do it
[05:46] <XMLnewbi> sure just pastebin it plz
[05:46] <keshav_> Ben64, +1
[05:46] <njd001> i have a stupid user question if i download ubuntu 12.10 desktop will it contain ubuntu liveCD ?
[05:46] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, include my nickname when talking to me , otherwise it's hard to see your answer.
[05:47] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, What graphics card or graphics chipset do you have?
[05:47] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, just a sec, I'm on a fresh install here, no plugin at vim to pastebin.
[05:47] <pyro254750> njd001: the 12.04 cd has an option to boot as a live cd, the 12.10 should as well
[05:47] <njd001> excellent
[05:47] <b1lly> well, I have an nvidia graphics card
[05:47] <b1lly> but I couldn't get it to work properly
[05:47] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  Which one and which driver?
[05:47] <njd001> my friend here at work said i can use clonentfs to clone the local disk image of the physical disk
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: pyro254750 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/should-ccsm-be-purged-from-the-ubuntu-repos :)
[05:47] <b1lly> so I think it's using the onboard graphics
[05:48] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, I have a gtx760 that worked before and after I installed the latest nvidia driver
[05:48]  * njd001 wants to make the corporate image his vm within ubuntu 12.10 :) as i had asked earlier apparently clonentfs will do this :D
[05:48] <rdsm> XMLnewbi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1561761/
[05:48] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: I tried installing latest drivers and it gave me a lot of trouble
[05:48] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  If you launch the details program and look under graphics what does it say?
[05:48] <njd001> not sure if you guys use a knowledge bot but thats a good one to add clonentfs
[05:49] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: Driver
[05:49] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: Experience: Standard
[05:49] <jeeves_moss> how can I import the e-mail folder files from my dovecot server back into thunderbird so I can push them to my exchange server?
[05:49] <pyro254750> actionparsnip: very intersting, I guess I havent flipped the self destruct switch yet, lol
[05:49] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, which nvidia card do you have? and what onboard graphics chipset?
[05:49] <njd001> pyro254750 one other good point to ask this laptop im installing on has both nvidia and intel video cards (independent) which one should i make ubuntu 12.10 use?
[05:49] <cloudgeek> i am running a program from shell in python ,triangle.py ,i write it in vim and also make it executable but it is giving wrong answer ,but on a online compiler it's giving correct answer! so help me
[05:49] <b1lly> I think a geforce gt 435m or 420m
[05:50] <b1lly> one of the
[05:50] <b1lly> i think its the 420
[05:50] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, lspci | grep VGA
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: i'd ask in #python
[05:51] <pyro254750> njd001: while im no expert, I suspect that the nvidia will require a proprietary driver installed while the intel will not. If you dont plan to do much 3d rendering (gaming), then I would let ubuntu pick what it wants. otherwise, id use the nvidia.
[05:51] <b1lly> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[05:51] <b1lly> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0df1 (rev a1)
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: is the system a laptop?
[05:52] <njd001> pyro254750 its a work laptop and im not much of a gamer ;-)
[05:52] <b1lly> yeah
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: oh then you want bumblebee
[05:52] <njd001> but great insight thanks!
[05:52] <rubiconjosh> Oh, you have the optimus setup
[05:52] <zykotick9> b1lly: do did need to use lspci -v to get both cards to output like that right?
[05:52] <b1lly> rubiconjosh: yeah, I remeber reading about that somewhere
[05:52] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, I have never configured that, the m at the end of the card name should have tipped me off
[05:52] <pyro254750> njd001: in that case I would just let ubuntu pick its own drivers. Either card should have more than enough for what you are doing. I have an older laptop running with compiz, and its very smooth, all using built in ubuntu drivers
[05:52] <njd001> pyro254750: I have a thinkpad T430
[05:52] <thetinyjesus> so far so good steam seems to be installing cs through wine perfect
[05:52] <b1lly> zykotick9: no
[05:53] <zykotick9> b1lly: interesting, thanks.
[05:53] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: what is bumblebee
[05:53] <rubiconjosh> b1lly, sorry I do not know anything about the optimus setup other than installing the regular nvidia driver will not work and will probably cause X to not run
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: its a project to accomodate switchable GPUs using nvidia (aka Optimus)
[05:54] <b1lly> is it on software center?
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> !optimus
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> !bumblebee
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[05:55] <cloudgeek> ActionParsnip: can i use the above /env/python like same
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> cloudgeek: I don't code python, sorry
[05:55] <MichaelP> What is better for a live usb stick ext2 or fat32 ?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> MichaelP: fat32 is advised in the guides
[05:56] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: ok, installing
[05:56] <MichaelP> ActionParsnip, okthanks
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: bumblebee is far from perfect
[05:56] <dr_willis> MichaelP:  the live tools will normally wan tto use fat*
[05:57] <rdsm> cloudgeek, if your script is running but the result output is wrong probably your code is wrong , check if the indent correct, but here is not the best place to ask.
[05:59] <kewel> well peeps, I got my PIII 1GHz 512MB up and running with lubuntu 12.04 .. had to use an old version of flashplugin, but it can youtube and run libreoffice ..
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> kewel: awesome
[06:00] <kewel> =)
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> kewel: I'd use minitube for youtube, its less taxing on the CPU
[06:00]  * rdsm remembers when p4 came out and p3 was better.
[06:01] <kewel> actionparsnip: cool.  I'll look into it
[06:01] <kewel> how do I get ubuntu 10.04 off of sda1?
[06:02] <kewel> delete the partition and then stretch this one?
[06:02] <rubiconjosh> kewel: before you delete a partition to remove linux make sure your boot loader is not getting its config file from that partition
[06:02] <b1lly> bumblebee great sucess
[06:02] <b1lly> thanks alo0t
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> kewel: its an option, you may have to rejig Grub if it uses the partition to store the configs
[06:03] <b1lly> OS runs really slow but
[06:03] <rdsm> b1lly, hooray!
[06:03] <b1lly> it worked lol
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: use:  optirun firefox     to make the app use the nvidia gpu and not the Intel one
[06:03] <kewel> rubiconjosh: thx
[06:03] <kewel> actionparsnip: thx
[06:03] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: how do I do that
[06:03] <b1lly> in terminal?
[06:04] <xrs> i deleted a 3 GB folder to free up some space (deleted as root) its not in the trash and i didnt get that space back. how do i get rid of that 3GB folder i dont want / where did it go?
[06:06] <kepler> xrs, how did you delete it as root?
[06:06] <rubiconjosh> xrs: what folder did you delete and how did you delete it?
[06:06] <b1lly> ActionParsnip: ?
[06:06] <vhadil> hy
[06:06] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  I am pretty sure he meant type that into a terminal to force that application to use your nvidia graphics card
[06:07] <b1lly> oh
[06:07] <b1lly> so I have to type that into terminal every time I want to launch an application
[06:07] <b1lly> ?
[06:07] <vhadil> on ubuntu 12.04 i'l instal squid, but squid3 installed no squid2, why
[06:07] <xrs> sudo sudo thunar, navigated to /media/$myuser/$USBdisk/media/$user/USBdisk/ right clicked on the folder i wanted gone and selected delete. (its from a diff comp that ran out of space and wouldnt boot so i slapped it into this computer to delete some files)
[06:07] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  No
[06:08] <xrs> vhadil,  install manually specifying the version you want with apt-get (ensure backports are enabled in software sources)
[06:08] <vhadil> xrs, how to , im beginner
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> b1lly: yes, or ALT+F2
[06:09] <rubiconjosh> b1lly,  Read about half way down, https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/FAQ
[06:09] <jcxl> has anyone ever suffered from the terrible infamous affliction of kidney stones
[06:10] <skp1> your mom has
[06:10] <kewel> yes
[06:10] <xrs> vhadil,  launcher menu -> settings -> Software Sources -> Updates  -> Backports checked. then ->open konsole / terminal -> type "sudo apt-get install squid2"
[06:10] <kewel> drink lots of water and alcohol as needed for fun
[06:10]  * njd001 wonders how thats relavant in #ubuntu
[06:10] <Keshav> +1
[06:11] <rdsm> jcxl, watch -n 3600 /drink/water
[06:11] <IdleOne> !ot
[06:11] <jcxl> kewel i've had what i thought was organ pain for the last 4 months to the point where i could barely shower or shave, had soo many tests done even a colonoscopy and endoscopy because they thought it was gi problems based on where the pain was,  i had my kidneys ultrasounded etc. and 3 ctscans.. all was fine...  then last night i got them ultrasounded again and they found a 4mm kidney stone in
[06:11] <b1lly> is it odd that my brightness only controls the window im targetting? :O
[06:11] <jcxl> my ureter
[06:11] <xrs> IdleOne,  do you know how i can free up that 3GB?
[06:11] <jcxl> sooo relieved.. i thought i was going to be stuck in mystery pain for life
[06:12] <jcxl> thing is i've had it for so long, i don't think its going to pass on its own
[06:12] <IdleOne> xrs: no idea
[06:12] <kewel> jcxl: ya they're not cool .. and depending on where the get stuck, it can be like labor pains or gettting kick in the groin by a mule
[06:12] <xrs> kepler, rubiconjosh, I did:  sudo sudo thunar, navigated to /media/$myuser/$USBdisk/media/$user/USBdisk/ right clicked on the folder i wanted gone and selected delete. (its from a diff comp that ran out of space and wouldnt boot so i slapped it into this computer to delete some files)
[06:12] <jcxl> sorry
[06:13] <rubiconjosh> xrs: Is that USB disk a linux partition? I honestly do not know a lot about it, but the trash may not work with NTFS or FAT, again I do not really know about it
[06:13] <xrs> what happens when you delete a folder as root?
[06:13] <IdleOne> kewel: This is Ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[06:13] <kepler> xrs, did you check in root's home dir trash?
[06:13] <xrs> i dont have hard drives, i run my computers from USB sticks formatted as EXT2
[06:13] <kewel> jcxl: sound elementary, but I should say -- drink a lot of water, as it gives the dissolved solids less chance to rock up together
[06:14] <kewel> jcxl: and if one is stuck, drink lots of water to push it out, and take antiinflamitories as the ureter will clamp onto the stone
[06:14] <IdleOne> kewel: This is Ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics
[06:15] <xrs>  /root is empty on both computers (viewing as root with thunar)
[06:15] <rubiconjosh> xrs: anything in /root/.local/share/Trash ?
[06:15] <xrs> ah maybe i didnt show hidden files
[06:15] <Keshav> How to remove joined and quit messages so that the chatbox looks clean ?
[06:15] <rubiconjosh> xrs, ls -a
[06:15] <rdsm> Ubuntu , better than medicare! lol.
[06:15] <jcxl> kewel i msged you,  do you mind?
[06:16] <jcxl> just trying to find somone who has went through it,  google tends to scare me
[06:16] <kairos> Ubuntu is saying my open wifi network has a pssword, but it no longer does. Is this a common problem?
[06:16] <xrs> Keshav,  in my xchat i right click on the room name -> settings -> hide join / part
[06:16] <rdsm> kairos, changed the config recently?
[06:16] <kairos> rdsm: Of the network? Yes.
[06:17] <rdsm> Keshav, /clear
[06:17] <xrs> kairos,  right click on the wifi signal -> edit -> delete the entry for that router
[06:17] <kairos> Thanks, xrs. I'll try it.
[06:18] <Keshav> Thanks xrs looks like it worked
[06:18] <pratik_> hey guyz i having some issue with ubuntu 12.10
[06:18] <pratik_> everytime i got a error and saying i need to report the problem
[06:18] <pratik_> i send report manytime
[06:18] <pratik_> still having same issue :(
[06:18] <xrs> what application?
[06:18] <pratik_> any help appriciate
[06:18] <pratik_> :)
[06:18] <kepler> what is the issue?
[06:19] <xrs> what application does it say is crashing?
[06:19] <kairos> xrs: That didn't work.
[06:19] <rubiconjosh> xrs, Find you files taking up space?
[06:19] <xrs> reboot
[06:19] <xrs> rubiconjosh,  /root/.share is empty
[06:19] <kairos> xrs: Yeah, that was what I was trying to avoid. Oh well. Thanks for the help. :)
[06:19] <rubiconjosh> xrs, was there a /root/.local ?
[06:19] <rdsm> pratik_, what is the issue and the application?
[06:20] <xrs> rubiconjosh,  yes /root/.share/ is there but nothing is in it
[06:20] <pratik_> i dont know which application is causing the issue
[06:20] <pratik_> rdsm: but i am getting this error everytime
[06:21] <rdsm> pratik_, when is the warning appearing , what is open when it happens , is anything happening right before the error notice appears?
[06:21] <xrs> click more details and post a screenshot of what the bottom says (make sure you click the triangles to show hidden stuff)
[06:21] <rdsm> pratik_, also do you execute any action before the error notice appears.
[06:21] <pratik_> rdsm: nope, its happening anytime, everytime
[06:21] <pratik_> on startup
[06:21] <rdsm> pratik_, also do what xrs said.
[06:21] <pratik_> on running firefox
[06:21] <pratik_> or even on other times
[06:22] <rdsm> pratik_, do what xrs said.
[06:23] <pratik_> ok be right back
[06:23] <TeckyJ> exit
[06:23] <TeckyJ> sorry
[06:24] <Keshav> Anybody using Cinnamon here?
[06:24] <inverse> what's cinnamon?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: ask in the mint channel
[06:24] <Keshav> Desktop environment
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Keshav: cinnamon isnt supported here
[06:25] <Keshav> !alis
[06:25] <rubiconjosh> Anyone know a website to view info pages online?
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> !mint | Keshav
[06:25] <xrs> rubiconjosh,  i found the deleted stuff in: /media/xrs/302af7b6-9096-4626-9a49-293ba71e18c2/.Trash-0/files   now how do i actually delete it?
[06:26] <rubiconjosh> xrs, the same as you did before, since it is in a .Trash it should actually be deleted this time
[06:26] <kepler> rm -fr  /media/xrs/302af7b6-9096-4626-9a49-293ba71e18c2/.Trash-0/<files>
[06:26] <xrs> well i still only have 88Kb free on the drive
[06:26] <ghinhismajesty> Rubiconjosh: Like man pages?
[06:27] <Keshav> !mint
[06:27] <rubiconjosh> ghinhismajesty, Yes, I can find man pages online easily, I was hoping to find a repository online for info pages
[06:27] <kepler> !kubuntu
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> rubiconjosh: duckduckgo has a !man bang too :)
[06:28] <rubiconjosh> xrs, How are you calculating the free space on the drive?
[06:28] <xrs> thunar
[06:29] <rubiconjosh> xrs, Does df concur?
[06:29] <xrs> gparted agrees with thunar
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> xrs: run:   df -h
[06:30] <rubiconjosh> ActionParsnip, thank you I have never used that. !info does not work as I hoped though.
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> rubiconjosh: also try:  !ppa firefox     :)
[06:30] <xrs> df says theres 900MB free (the "deleted" folder was 3GB)
[06:31] <rubiconjosh> ActionParsnip, thank you, I may switch to duckduckgo and figure out its extras
[06:31] <carl1> xubuntu recognizes the unused space on hard drive as dec and pen drive dec
[06:32] <xrs> this is ubuntu studio trying to delete files off a xubuntu hard drive
[06:32] <carl1> now my pen drive is format in dos/need a way to format and get it to recognize as dec or vice versa
[06:34] <carl1> take it this isn't really a help group.
[06:34] <xrs> i dont know what your asking for
[06:34] <xrs> over my head
[06:35] <carl1> i used to use eugene geeks but haven't seen a geek on there in a long time.
[06:35] <xrs> what is dec
[06:35] <majnoon> carl1, fdisk or gparted (or equivalents) SHOULD work
[06:35] <xrs> digital computer corp?
[06:35] <carl1> what the pen drive as recognized by xubuntu
[06:35] <xrs> digital equipment corp*
[06:35] <rubiconjosh> xrs, You could try du, dont run it with no arguments though... just learned what that does
[06:35] <carl1> dec the opposite
[06:36] <xrs> what is dec?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> xrs: i was thinking the same
[06:36] <carl1> it is a label placed upon a drive
[06:36] <xrs> gparted, dont use labels
[06:36] <carl1> like c drive
[06:37] <carl1> yes it kind of does
[06:37] <carl1> unetbooten certainly does
[06:37] <carl1> and so does xubuntu or any other linux
[06:37] <xrs> gparted will format it. dont use labels, i have trouble when i try changing the volume name
[06:37] <carl1> no it won't
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> carl1: so what is the issue, you cannot mount the partition?
[06:37] <carl1> it formatted by default as dos
[06:38] <xrs> yes lets get down to what are you relly here for? whats the error / root cause
[06:38] <carl1> couldn't make it format anoither way
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> carl1: when you last unplugged it, did you safely remove it in software before physically removing it
[06:38] <carl1> unetbooten would identify my hard drive as the only acceptable drive to load an iso onto.
[06:39] <carl1> its ok I am tired after a long day of virus battle and trying to work xubuntu.
[06:39] <antonio__> I'm trying to upgrade to 10.10 and I get a "fetching the upgrade failed. there might be a network problem"...yet I have an internet connection..what gives?
[06:39] <carl1> forget it I will get sleep and try again
[06:40] <carl1> probably have to go find a windows computer so it will do what I tell it to.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: i'd use the alternate maverick ISO and upgrade that way. Why not upgrade to Precise directly. LTS to LTS upgrades are very supported
[06:40] <antonio__> how can I upgrade to it directly?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | antonio__
[06:41] <xrs> thanks everyone!
[06:41] <antonio__> Can I upgrade all the way to the current version?
[06:41] <carl1> If I could just load precise puppy on my flash I'd be ok but now I am stuck with a dos pen drive that linux won't recognize.
[06:41] <rubiconjosh> See you guys later
[06:41] <rdsm> rubiconjosh, cya.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: you'd need to upgrade to Precise first, then to Quantal
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: or you could do a clean install
[06:43] <antonio__> which version is precise?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: 12.04 LTS
[06:44] <antonio__> I'm still lost on how to upgrade to precise
[06:46] <tripelb> antonio__: whats your preaent veraion?
[06:46] <tripelb> present
[06:47] <antonio__> 10.04
[06:47] <ampalaya> hello
[06:47] <antonio__> aloha
[06:48] <tripelb> antonio__: basically you cant. you will need to back up and reinstall. but.make sure you get another opinion. there could.be something.i dont k ow.about
[06:52] <antonio__> how can I tell if my machine is 386 or 64?
[06:53] <ketan985> just type uname -a in terminal
[06:53] <antonio__> 686 is 64 bit, right?
[06:53] <tripelb> my friends. i have now deleted my extra partitions and will create new ones. it took 2 patient days to get an answer here but it was nowhere on tje foir how to repartion webpages, askubumtu (sic) and ubuntuforums and linuxbsdos and howtoplaza. Whew. -- now I have 22963 of space and 1G of RAM
[06:53] <SwedeMike> antonio__: no.
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: thats the arch of the kernel, won't necessarily match the cpu :)
[06:54] <antonio__> how can I tell what my cpu is?
[06:54] <SwedeMike> antonio__: x86_64 means it's a 64bit kernel
[06:54] <SwedeMike> antonio__: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[06:54] <aeon-ltd> is there any problem in having / as ext2 and /home as ext4?
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: cat /proc/cpuinof | grep -i model    then use the web to find out
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: none at all :)
[06:54] <tripelb> so i shold make 2 G of swap amd the rest /  ... AmIRite?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: ext2 has no journal, so sudden power offs will be a bit scary
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> ActionParsnip: thanks, what about performance or errors? is journaling worth reinstalling / for?
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: yes, you have less than 2Gb RAM so double RAM as swap is good
[06:55] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: can home be ntfa? i have been.wondering.that.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> aeon-ltd: you can add a journal to ext2 to make it into ext3
[06:56] <tripelb> ok. wow am happy ActionParsnip
[06:56] <antonio__> swedemike: this is the pastebin I got from that process
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: no, but you can have a small (2Gb) /home partition then store casual data like images and music etc on the NTFS
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: you can then symlink to the ntfs for easy access
[06:57] <antonio__> I think its 64 bit, not sure though
[06:57] <ActionParsnip>  antonio__: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i model
[06:57] <antonio__> does Instruction Set - 64bit mean my processor is 64 bit
[06:57] <antonio__> tried that actionparsnip:
[06:58] <antonio__> cat: /proc/cpuinof: No such file or directory
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: yes that's why I tweaked it
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: bit of a typo
[06:58] <antonio__> ah ;)
[06:59] <antonio__> This is my processor http://ark.intel.com/products/42925/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T4500-1M-Cache-2_30-GHz-800-MHz-FSB
[06:59] <antonio__> when it says instruction set - 64 bit..does that mean its 64 bit?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> antonio__: yes, its 64bit
[06:59] <antonio__> ok thanks...
[07:00] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: in partitioner. now installing 9.04 --  ok.to use ext4 ? ahould i check Format.the.partition?  id so.why? if not why?
[07:01] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: once.installed, praxtice
[07:01] <crazybrain> How to format SD card using Ubuntu 12.10
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> crazybrain: use gparted
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: installing 9.04?  ...as in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[07:01] <tripelb>  i will want to.get the lubuntu off.my nexus 7
[07:02] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: yep
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: its not supported anymore
[07:02] <tripelb>  i lost track.of my 12.04 disk. and my 11
[07:03] <antonio__> is there any kind of command I can run that will compile a list of the software I have already installed? to make it easier to re-install everything?
[07:03] <tripelb>  i lost track.of my 12.04 disk. and my 11.04 disk says "hardware cannot do unity" then boots gnome and displays wrong.
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> !clone | antonio__
[07:04] <crazybrain> How to format mobile sd card?
[07:05] <antonio__> brilliant!
[07:05] <crazybrain> i am using Ubuntu 12.10
[07:05] <crazybrain> THere is no option of formatting
[07:06] <crazybrain> someone help me
[07:06] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: i do not care of unsupported. if i install it properlyy grub will recover and then i can get to the qindows partition and thwn i can get lubuntu 12.04 off of the nexus and burn me a morw better liveCD. anyway that is mt plan
[07:07] <tripelb> !ask | crazybrain
[07:07] <foo357> Hello, I've got a computer running 12.04 LTS, usb sticks seem to get mounted with noexec and whatnot... the permissions are something like Xrwx------ how can I change this?
[07:07] <crazybrain> How to format mobile sd card through Ubuntu 12.10??
[07:09] <antonio__> !automate
[07:09] <tripelb> crazybrain: i think you use gparted.
[07:10] <BeautFreedom> foo357, with chmod -r a+rwx <device>
[07:10] <tripelb> crazybrain: that is on the live cd. y??ou have to use apt-get to pit it on your installed.system.
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> foo357: manually mount the device with better options is another way
[07:11] <crazybrain> tripelb: i typed apt-get install gparted
[07:11] <tripelb> crazybrain: sudo apt-get install gparted       IIR
[07:12] <crazybrain> IIR?>??
[07:12] <tripelb> crazybrain: thats what i am uaing now. it is also called the partitioner
[07:13] <tripelb> iir = if i remember
[07:14] <foo357> BeautFreedom: um, isn't it impossible to change permissions like that? Anyway I tried chmod'ing the particular files but it had no effect.
[07:14] <foo357> ActionParsnip: having to manually mount and deal with this would be undesirable
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> foo357: when you last unplugged the device, did you safly eject it before you removed it physically?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> foo357: or did you just yank it out?
[07:16] <foo357> ActionParsnip: well yes, since the last boot
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> foo357: what file system is it using?
[07:17] <foo357> ActionParsnip: ntfs
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> foo357: have you chkdsk'd it in Windows?
[07:18] <foo357> ActionParsnip: no... but as far as I knoe there haven't been any indications of anything being wrong... what do you suspect?
[07:19] <ampalaya> hello. can anyone tell me the command to know the ip addresses/hosts/clients in a network?
[07:19] <ubuntun00b> Anyone here well versed with issues concerning wubi installations?
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> ampalaya: use nmap
[07:20] <dr_willis> ubuntun00b:  i would say - its best to avoid wubi whenever possible
[07:20] <ubuntun00b> dr_willis: I'm seeing this.
[07:20] <ampalaya> thanks but if i want to know all the clients connected in a network?
[07:20] <dr_willis> ampalaya:  clients for what service?
[07:20] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: i chose ext4 and swap tuened out as 1998M. -- now previously i booted into grub recovery ... so should i niw do "install the boot loader" ?  and what Device? ... or.skip.this part?  thanks.>
[07:21] <dr_willis> ampalaya:  you can scan the network to see all pcs on the network via nmap  - it should show most all of them
[07:21] <ampalaya> everything. all the services a client is running
[07:21] <dr_willis> ampalaya:  what if a pc on the network is not using the services :)   you want to know abbout it also?
[07:22] <tripelb> ubuntun00b:  avoid wubi.
[07:22] <ampalaya> yes their open ports as well
[07:22] <dr_willis> ampalaya:  sounds like a job for nmap of similer network scanners
[07:22] <ubuntun00b> I re-sized my Wubi install using the official manual from the website. After successfully completing the re-sizing, and successfully booting into Ubuntu via Wubi, I thought everything was great, except that it could not detect that I had enlarged the available disk space by 20GB.
[07:22] <dr_willis> or similer..
[07:23] <ampalaya> yes like a network scanner
[07:23] <dr_willis> ampalaya:  it is a network scanner. ;) not like one.
[07:23] <Pierreb> how can i add 24th of last month to a file with date if i run the script on the 1th of the new month so i can't use -X days as it will be different each month
[07:23] <dr_willis> !info nmap
[07:23] <ampalaya> lol yeah network scanner can nmap do that?
[07:24] <ubuntun00b> When I went to port it to a pre-formatted 100GB ext4 partition, I can no longer boot to Ubuntu. It states it cannot detect my display, and cannot detect my input. I have tried everything I can think of, but my irc handle says it all, I'm afraid
[07:24] <dr_willis> nmap IS a network scanner
[07:24] <tripelb> ubuntun00b:  wubi has imafinary disl.space. if windows falters oe cannot.be booted, aay different hardware then all your quni data is gone .. like mu.ponyo.disk image :(
[07:24] <dr_willis> ubuntun00b:  its possible to mount the wubi hd image from a live ccd and get files from it,
[07:25] <tripelb> dr_willis: e
[07:25] <ampalaya> yes it is, how can i display clients connected and the open ports in a wireless network
[07:26] <tripelb> dr_willis: really? oh hug!!! thats a project.for later.
[07:26] <iceroot> ampalaya: nmap host
[07:26] <ubuntun00b> tripelb: I had no such issue there. All the hardware is working great, no Windows failures, etc. That was the first thing I thought of, and spent a couple hours running various video diagnostics and hard drive diagnostics, including the standard windows chkdsk, and linux fsck
[07:26] <dr_willis> ampalaya:  its worth th etime to read the nmap docs
[07:26] <ubuntun00b> dr_willis: How is this possible, and where can I find documentation on how to make it happen?
[07:27] <ubuntun00b> I'd rather not clog up the channel with you walking me through it, you know?
[07:27] <dr_willis> ubuntun00b:  the wubi hd is a  file on the windows drivce. you can mount it via mounts loopback file feature
[07:27] <iceroot> ampalaya: nmap 192.168.0.0/24   change the network to the network you are using
[07:27] <ampalaya> will do. thanks
[07:27] <dr_willis> i dont use wubi. so cant walk ya through it. I dont know th efile names.. ;)
[07:27] <ubuntun00b> lol I do.
[07:28] <tripelb> ActionParsnip: i chose ext4 and so the swap turned out to be 1998M. --  previously i booted into grub recovery ... so should i now do "install the boot loader" ?  and what Device? ... or.skip.this part?  thanks.
[07:28] <ubuntun00b> Think I could do it using a GParted live disk?
[07:28] <ampalaya> thanks iceroot thats it i could nmap the whole subnet
[07:28] <__Hackuin__> ampalaya: Nmap is a over kill for your task, just try ping your /24 address and try a "arp -a", Don't just blindly scan a network.
[07:28] <dr_willis> the same can be done for a casper-rw file also. I recall others doing it for the wubi files. but ive never done so
[07:28] <dr_willis> gparted is not for disk image files last i tried it... but
[07:29] <dr_willis> im not sure it cant do it. ;) but gparted wont let you copy files from the image
[07:29] <iceroot> __Hackuin__: he wants all services
[07:29] <iceroot> __Hackuin__: on all clients of the network
[07:30] <dr_willis> if a client is running a servicce.. isent it a server? ;)
[07:30] <ubuntun00b> damn. I have an empty 100GB ext4 partition, and if I can rescue the 25GB of crap I have in my home folder, I'll be happy as hell.
[07:30] <tripelb> ubuntun00b:  can i pm you? if it works i want to give you my i fo so i can pick your brain later. i want my Ponyo disk image back.
[07:30] <iceroot> dr_willis: good point ;)
[07:30] <dr_willis> tripelb:   the cartoon about the goldfish girl? ;)
[07:31] <__Hackuin__> @ iceroot, didn't read next convo.. just read.. (12:49:00  IST) ampalaya: hello. can anyone tell me the command to know the ip addresses/hosts/clients in a network?
[07:31] <ubuntun00b> tell you what. PM me, and I'll give you my email. I'm in Windows, right now, and we'll see what we can make happen
[07:31] <iceroot> __Hackuin__: ok
[07:32] <gnomefreak> ubuntun00b: you may want to be a less general or you can wind up having the channel pming you
[07:32] <ubuntun00b> lol gnomefreak
[07:32] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:32] <ampalaya> @ _Hackuin__ and iceroot thanks for the help
[07:32] <tripelb> dr_willis: yes i bought it before the dubbed one came out and later stepped on the actual disk. i am in love with that movie. btw the NYT is far and away the best review of it.
[07:39] <ubuntun00b> So many people, so little time... lol
[07:40] <foo357> Hello, I've got a computer running 12.04 LTS, usb sticks seem to get mounted with noexec and whatnot... the permissions are something like Xrwx------ how can I change this?
[07:44] <hrundi-bakshi> hey guys i need HELP!
[07:44] <dr_willis> foo357:  you mean vfat on usb flash drives?
[07:44] <goodnerd> hey i got a proablem. i just installed new ubuntu i was using an older version with gnome for years. i installed gnome and how everything i open is glued on to the upper left cornor
[07:44] <foo357> dr_willis: hm, the usb stick contains a ntfs FS
[07:44] <tripelb> anyone or ActionParsnip: i chose ext4 and so the swap turned out to be 1998M. --  previously i booted into grub recovery ... so should i now do "iinstall the boot loader" ?  and what Device? ... or.skip.this part?  thanks.
[07:44] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-confif
[07:44] <goodnerd> is this normal or did i mess up
[07:44] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[07:45] <dr_willis> foo357:  i recall netfs-config letting you tweak that.
[07:45] <hrundi-bakshi> im doing this new project with 3g Modem bonding on Ubuntu .....someone help..
[07:45] <goodnerd> the menubar seems glued to the menubar of gnome
[07:45] <foo357> dr_willis: thanks I will check that out
[07:45] <dr_willis> foo357:  or just use ntfs-3g to mount it with what options you  need..  theres a reason the files are not exectable. :0 it would make them all executable
[07:46] <hrundi-bakshi> any idea how to bond Heterogenous networks on ubuntu???
[07:46] <foo357> dr_willis: ntfs-3g? what's all that?
[07:46] <hrundi-bakshi> NIC+ 3G+wifi+other network bonding on ubuntu
[07:46] <tripelb> is bootloader same aa grub? what device.does.it go.omt
[07:47] <goodnerd> does anyone know how to unstick the menubars
[07:47] <hrundi-bakshi> any networking experts here
[07:47] <tripelb>  default is hd0 --- what does that mean?
[07:47] <Guest15554> hi
[07:48] <dr_willis> !info ntfs-3g
[07:48] <zimbo> is there an editor that i can use to quickly draw diagrams, flowcharts, charts etc. while taking notes?
[07:48] <zimbo> i've tried to find something in emacs, though if it's there i haven't found it
[07:48] <vlaca> zimbo: maybe dia
[07:49] <Ben64> hrundi-bakshi: you pretty much can't do that
[07:49] <vlaca> for flowcharts at least...
[07:49] <foo357> dr_willis: I got the package ntfs-3g installed...
[07:49] <dr_willis> foo357:  and ntfs-3g is what the system is using to allow  you full access to ntfs filesystem
[07:50] <giNeeRing> HEy, tried to follow a guide to get a  WiFi pci card working. Then did a kernel config. --- Is there a way to reinstall kernel that came with the IMG without formatting?
[07:51] <hrundi-bakshi> sudo apt-get reinstall linux-image        ..........will reinstall the kernel...MOST likely will delete all your old configs
[07:52] <goodnerd> fixed it
[07:52] <goodnerd> gnome no effect
[07:52] <goodnerd> thanks guys =p
[07:54] <vp18> Hi guys .I have a Netgear N900 DB router w/my 1TB Seagate External HDD plugged in the USB port of the router.What can I use to access it on Ubuntu 12.10?PLease  help
[07:54] <Ben64> vp18: seems more like a router issue
[07:54] <vp18> The router is fine
[07:55] <MoL0ToV> http://pastebin.ca/2306399  <- suggestions?
[07:55] <Ben64> but its the router with the hard drive. we deal with ubuntu, not routers
[07:56] <tripelb> i boot into grub re o ery and so am reinstalling ubuntu. should i reinstall the bootloader? in (hd0) ? please someone address this!!!
[07:56] <vp18> No i can unplug the HDD from the router itself but can I use Samba or something
[07:58] <rdsm> tripelb, "grub re o ery" what?
[07:59] <dr_willis> vp18:  most routers  use samba/windows network shares to share their drivves.. some can do ftp and nfs also
[07:59] <dr_willis> check  your routers docs and settings
[07:59] <vp18> where can i find that
[07:59] <vp18> plz
[08:00] <dr_willis> where can you find your  routers docs?   try its company homepage?
[08:01] <tripelb> grub recovery rdsm but now i get crash recovery  detected an it sounds like a loop. shutdown is not shutting down livecd
[08:02] <rdsm> tripelb, what exactly is the problem? your phrases are not making sense.
[08:02] <tripelb> ogny: you dutch?
[08:03] <ogny> tripelb: turk
[08:03] <talntid> find . -maxdepth 1 -type d -exec echo {} \;    --- that returns folders like ./foldername
[08:03] <talntid> how can I remove the ./ from the foldername ?
[08:03] <tripelb> rdsm i munged a ubuntu install. still is a windows partition ..boots into grub recovery
[08:04] <Ben64> talntid: | sed s/^..//
[08:06] <tripelb> rdsm i am lost. crashes during partitioning is what it seems. i want to boot into windows to get lubuntu diskimage 12.04 OFF  my nexus 7.          u
[08:06] <dr_willis> bonus points.. put quotes around the names that contain spaces.. ;)   extra credit.. do it ONLY for dirs thta hacve spaces in the names
[08:07] <tripelb> what do i do at grub rescue?
[08:07] <antonio__> how can I backup my Thunderbird accounts and save all of the emails?
[08:09] <tripelb> rdsm anything you can help with here?
[08:09] <rdsm> tripelb, trying to understand.
[08:10] <guest-zEN5k1> ke
[08:10] <guest-zEN5k1> hacker hacker
[08:10] <Ben64> guest-zEN5k1: not here
[08:11] <rdsm> tripelb, you installed ubuntu in your computer but it crashed during partitioning now you're unable to access the windows because grub is installed?
[08:13] <hrundi-bakshi> ubotto: hi
[08:16] <iceroot> firefox is using this default website "http://start.ubuntu.com/12.04/Google/?sourceid=hp" what does the hp means? is it something else then the company hp? because at the moment i am connected to the hp network
[08:18] <tripelb> rdsm unable yo access windows cause it goes into grub recovery>
[08:20] <riply> Hi guys, does anyone know if the Ubuntu OS will be iPhone compatible? ie replace iOS?
[08:20] <ShapeShifter499> Has anyone here used or is currently using webmin? I just installed it and although it uses my system user and pass I'm a bit worried about security
[08:20] <virtual_user>  riply no
[08:20] <iceroot> !webmin | ShapeShifter499
[08:20] <riply> ShapeShifter499, keep it updated and you'll be fine. Webmin is basically an industry standard.
[08:20] <tripelb> rdsm ls gives me this. (hd0) (hd0,msdos7) (hd0,msdos6) etc like that ending woth (fd0)
[08:21] <petergk> hello
[08:21] <iceroot> riply: please dont suggest webmin on debian based systems
[08:21] <riply> ShapeShifter499, from a support point of view, however you're going to run into issues
[08:21] <petergk> anybody knows that if I disable activity logging, it really stops to send data to canonical?
[08:21] <riply> iceroot, you beat me to it :)
[08:21] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: really? Why is it not supported any more?
[08:21] <iceroot> riply: :)
[08:22] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: read what ubottu wrote
[08:22] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: it may break your system
[08:22] <tripelb> rdsm i think i have to sleep now. i will continue tomorrow.
[08:23] <rdsm> tripelb, ok.
[08:23] <rdsm> tripelb, tomorrow if you want to try you can google win7 grub chainloader +1
[08:24] <ShapeShifter499> Hmm seems like the devs (or dev? ) is keeping it up to date for Debian/Ubuntu, there is a whole section on the webmin site for Debian(and Debian based systems)
[08:24] <ShapeShifter499> It's working for me so far
[08:25] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: and we dont support that here
[08:25] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: because it may break your system
[08:25] <riply> ShapeShifter499, I use Virtualmin with no issues yet (touch wood) but there is no support in the LTS
[08:26] <riply> iceroot, do you have any more debian-friendly suggestions?
[08:26] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: .....you've just said "I'm worried it's using my system password for security" iceroot has gave you a link saying it's not supported due to security issues....and you're asking "why"....look at your initial question
[08:26] <bazhang> !ebox > ShapeShifter499
[08:27] <iceroot> riply: ssh + vi(m)
[08:27] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: that's a bit boring lol
[08:27] <apos> "Playing error : Resource not found. at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm line 135."
[08:27] <iceroot> riply: but that is just my opinion, i dont like these webguis to manage a server. if i am unable to manage a server and need a webgui i should not manage a server
[08:29]  * apos agrees w/ iceroot 
[08:30] <Ben64> that is very true.
[08:30] <ShapeShifter499> bazhang: thank you
[08:30] <apos> if u choose to pull the trigger; should your drama prove sincere; do it somewhere far away from here.
[08:30] <iceroot> apos: apt-file search gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm
[08:30] <iceroot> gmusicbrowser: /usr/share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm
[08:31] <iceroot> apos: so "sudo apt-get install gmusicbrowser" should fix it
[08:31] <apos> its there. its just a bug'
[08:31] <iceroot> apos: ah you mean the "../"?
[08:31] <ShapeShifter499> bazhang: assuming it's vary secure?
[08:31] <ripthejacker> how do i open new gnome-terminal tab from console or from a script?
[08:32] <ShapeShifter499> I'm using this on my Ubuntu netbook that has now become my cbc and Wi-Fi router
[08:32] <ripthejacker> gnome-terminal --tab opens a new window not a new tab
[08:32] <ShapeShifter499> router cbc
[08:32] <ShapeShifter499> Oops
[08:32] <grep> k
[08:32] <ShapeShifter499> Touch keyboards suck lol
[08:33] <riply> ripthejacker, if I'm understanding you correctly, when the terminal is open, press crtl+shift+t
[08:34] <ripthejacker> riply, i already specified i want to do it using console because i want to do this in a script
[08:34] <riply> ripthejacker, so you want to open it, from within a script, with how many open tabs?
[08:35] <ripthejacker> ok i think i'm creating an x-y problem
[08:35] <ripthejacker> riply, what i want to do is to start two different servers from one script
[08:35] <apos> why the need for the extra tab?
[08:35] <ripthejacker> so one way is to make one of them run in background
[08:36] <antonio__> exit
[08:36] <ripthejacker> but i want to monitor both of them
[08:36] <antonio__> haha...whoops
[08:36] <riply> ripthejacker, something like this? gnome-terminal --tab -e 'ssh myserver' --tab -e 'ssh myserver'
[08:36] <Seven_Six_Two> I have xdmcp set up on my lan. My desktop has 2 22" monitors. Instead of alt+ctrl+[1..9] with double wide desktop on both, I'd like (on login) for an xdmcp connection to establish and display on the second monitor.
[08:36] <apos> why the need for the extra tab??
[08:37] <apos> ....
[08:37] <apos> why does && not suffice for starting 2 servers in 1 script?
[08:37] <hagzag> Hi anyone here with W520 and Nvidia runing ubutnu 12.10?
[08:37] <riply> ripthejacker, that should open a terminal with two tabs both logged onto myserver.
[08:37] <riply> or two different servers is you like?
[08:38] <hagzag> GF106GLM [Quadro 200M[
[08:38] <hagzag> anyone ?
[08:38] <apos> i have no idea what chip that is
[08:38] <hagzag> Been through all the howtos/tutorials with no luck :(
[08:38] <ripthejacker> riply, so i crate two scripts one for each server and then do gnome-terminal --tab -e '1.sh' --tab -e '2.sh' ?
[08:38] <ripthejacker> *create
[08:39] <apos> ripthejacker,  you cant &&?
[08:39] <ripthejacker> apos, but i want both of them in foreground
[08:40] <iceroot> apos: command1 && command2     command2 will only be startet when command1 is done
[08:40] <apos> i dont know. id call upon a second xterm
[08:40] <iceroot> apos: when command1 will run forever (acrtive program/window) command2 will never be executed
[08:42] <apos> fork 1 script into 2 simultaniously
[08:42] <histo> !anyone | hagzag
[08:42] <commode-man> free masala -dosa free masala dosa anyone
[08:43] <iceroot> !ot | commode-man
[08:43] <histo> ripthejacker: you'd have to man gnome-terminal most likely to find out how to open a new tab.  I'm sure you'd somehow have to specify which window you want a new tab in.
[08:44] <ripthejacker> histo, the window from which i run the script
[08:44] <histo> ripthejacker: also in a bash script program1 &   program 2 &   will run both at the same time.
[08:44] <apos> but i come fro the windows world where 1 txt based adv is made of thousands of scripts
[08:45] <dr_willis> i dont think it works that wat
[08:45] <dr_willis> way
[08:46] <histo> dr_willis: who?
[08:46] <commode-man> dr.willis: hi
[08:48] <dr_willis> reading tge man pages for gnome-terminal  i dont recall it wotking the way hes wanting.  i do see a neat profile feature. that wiuld eliminate the needs for the scripts
[08:49] <ripthejacker> dr_willis, eliminate the needs for the scripts???
[08:49] <ripthejacker> o.O
[08:49] <dr_willis> you can set a profile to run a command.
[08:49] <histo> ripthejacker: using just 1 & symbol like I suggested would start program1 and background it start program2 in the fg.  You could program1 &   program2 && fg    that way when you exit program2 you get the output for program1
[08:50] <ripthejacker> histo, i want fg for both, thats why i asked if i could start a new tab
[08:50] <histo> ripthejacker: why not just start a new terminal?
[08:50] <histo> ripthejacker: if you are tabbing them isn't that the same thing as jobs?  You could also use nohup so it doesn't exit when the shell dies
[08:51] <histo> ripthejacker: since you cant view both tabs at once.
[08:51] <ripthejacker> ripthejacker, but then why does gnome-terminal allow tabs if you cant view more than one at a time ?
[08:52] <ripthejacker> histo, , but then why does gnome-terminal allow tabs if you cant view more than one at a time ?
[08:52] <hXm> how to send signals to a program? custom signal
[08:52] <hXm> kill -s returns  invalid signal specification
[08:52] <auronandace> ripthejacker: you might be interested in tmux
[08:53] <dr_willis> hmm   stackoverflow.com/tags/gnome-terminal/hot
[08:53] <dr_willis> lots of coool tricks there   ;-)
[08:55] <dr_willis> i thought i saw a example of a script thated starrted gnome-terminal with 4 tabs wuth a different app in each tab.. once....
[08:56] <ripthejacker> dr_willis, no its How to display tabs as 4 spaces in gnome-terminal
[08:56] <histo> ripthejacker: you could use screen and split vertically or horizontally
[08:56] <dr_willis> !info terminator
[08:57] <hagzag> anyone here can halp with nvidia
[08:57] <commode-man> !info cowsay
[08:57] <commode-man> cowsay
[08:57] <ikonia> hagzag: start asking a question rather than just for help
[08:58] <Keshav> ikonia:
[08:58] <hagzag> I have GF106GLM [Quadro 200M]  on ubutnu 12.10
[08:58] <ripthejacker> ok so i possibly cannot achieve what im looking for without installing a new program?
[08:58] <hagzag> and I cant get it to work
[08:58] <hagzag> I tried all the tutorials / forums with no luck
[08:59] <joie> i have 2 et4 partition, one of them (the root) is rather full, will it use the other one for installing new programs?
[08:59] <joie> *ext4
[08:59] <auronandace> joie: no
[08:59] <petergk> anybody knows that in U 12.04 , if I disable activity logging, it really stops to send data to canonical?
[08:59] <ikonia> petergk: if you disable activity logging and amazon lense, no data is sent anywhere
[08:59] <commode-man> ikonia: hi
[09:00] <joie> autonandace: what should I do ? is there anyway to merge the new one with the full partion?
[09:00] <dr_willis> ripthejacker: check that stack exchange site and askubuntu.com  they may know a way
[09:00] <ikonia> commode-man: yes ?
[09:00] <histo> hagzag: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:00] <commode-man> is there a command list help file for thsi IRC
[09:00] <histo> commode-man: /help
[09:00] <auronandace> joie: not really, you could make your current / bigger
[09:00] <joie> auronandace: check that stack exchange site and askubuntu.com  they may know a way
[09:00] <commode-man> histo: love you bro
[09:00] <ripthejacker> dr_willis, ok thank you
[09:01] <ShapeShifter499> iceroot: bazhang: I think I'm going to stay with webmin, everything is setup, configured, working the way I want and so far (knock on wood) I had no problems, it's just there to act as a router configure page since my Ubuntu system is acting as my Wi-Fi router
[09:01] <dr_willis> stackoverflow.com/search?q=gnome+terminal+tabs
[09:01] <hagzag> ikonia: just did ask, no news yet :)
[09:01] <ikonia> hagzag: then wait
[09:02] <dr_willis> has how to show 4 spaces for a tab character. ;-)
[09:03] <ripthejacker> :P
[09:03] <ripthejacker> !info xdotools
[09:03] <ripthejacker> !info xdotool
[09:04] <petergk> ikonia, thanks
[09:08] <iceroot> ShapeShifter499: you can do what you want but we will not support that setup here
[09:09] <riply> ripthejacker, sorry man, I was afk. No that should open one terminal with two tabs.
[09:10] <apos> ShapeShifter499,  the US Navy is perfectly willing to train you for free on how to setup your linux box as the perfect headless firewall / proxy / ids
[09:10] <apos> no military service required
[09:10] <ShapeShifter499> Lol
[09:11] <apos> you laugh but thats a $400,000 discount
[09:11] <apos> certs included
[09:11] <auronandace> !ot | apos
[09:14] <miha> anyone knows how to properly use mtp with android 4.x .. it shows some files/folders, not others, it doesnt refresh files...
[09:14] <klawd> hi!
[09:15] <klawd> i just installed ubuntu. what's the best way to go to an XFCE system from here?
[09:15] <klawd> i could not use netinst so it installed the complete thing
[09:15] <commode-man> !ot | ls
[09:15] <auronandace> klawd: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:15] <klawd> hm ok
[09:17] <dr_willis> klawd:  or insta;; the xubuntu-desktop package
[09:17] <commode-man> ADDBUTTON sam
[09:18] <klawd> dr_willis: yeah, i knew there's different ways to do it
[09:18] <klawd> i just don't know which is preferrable
[09:18] <klawd> i don't want to muck up my system
[09:19] <klawd> actually, since i only want the WM really, im gonna go with the xfce4 package alone
[09:22] <Annette01> Hello everybody, I think i need a little bit of help. Ive tried installing ubuntu 12.04 on my asus g75vw laptop when i run it from the usb stick or try to install it after about 40-50 lines of text it freezes and does nothing. I let it sit like that for 20 minutes with no effect and im starting to lose hope. I installed ubuntu in the past a long time ago and it didnt seem to freak out then
[09:22] <Annette01> which has me perplexed. Im normaly pretty computer savvy
[09:25] <riply> Annette01, did you make the USB Boot Disk using an Ubuntu Live CD?
[09:25] <riply> Annette01, or did you just copy the .iso onto it?
[09:26] <Annette01> I used the iso and the software the ubuntu page suggested.
[09:27] <Annette01> Let me get the name of te software riply
[09:27] <Annette01> universial usb installer
[09:27] <Annette01> the md5 checksums match up
[09:27] <Annette01> on the iso
[09:28] <Anna30F> ____________Hello __________
[09:29] <Annette01> Oh boy, spam bots.
[09:33] <Annette01> riply: Still there?
[09:34] <ripthejacker> !info wmctrl
[09:36] <klawd> ok, so i installed xfce4 but it seems to be very outdated style-wise
[09:36] <klawd> and the terminal emulator didn't work
[09:37] <dr_willis> classic look is not outdated.. its retro ;)
[09:37] <dr_willis> and it is themeable
[09:37] <klawd> no, it actually is outdated
[09:37] <impi> hey guys, anyone know how to downgrade sun java from 1.8 to 1.6?
[09:38] <impi> 1.8 is so unstable
[09:38] <dr_willis> impi:  uninstall the 1.8   insall 1.6
[09:38] <impi> dr_willis, i have to do that manually hey? cant do it via apt?
[09:38] <dr_willis> or use the alternatives system to select the java you wan tto use if you wan tto keep them all installed
[09:38] <dr_willis> I dont know how you  installed the javas
[09:39] <spyzer> heye everyone, I was making a program which uses libwebkitgtk-3.0, but when I compile the program i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1562127/
[09:39] <dr_willis> !java
[09:39] <spyzer> i have installed all dependencies through apt-get
[09:39] <spyzer> then why do i get this
[09:39] <spyzer> ?
[09:39] <spyzer> i am using pkg-config
[09:39] <impi> thank you dr_willis
[09:39] <spyzer> for lib dependency
[09:40] <gnomefreak> spyzer: you should try asking in #ubuntu-moto
[09:40] <dr_willis> moto? or motu?
[09:40] <gnomefreak> motu
[09:40] <dr_willis> ;)  thought we had a ubuntu for cars channel
[09:40] <gnomefreak> oh damn lack of sleep is catching up with me
[09:40] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:41] <impi> oracle-java6-installer - Oracle Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6
[09:42] <bianca> does anyone here play league of legends?
[09:43] <Annette01> I do bianca :)
[09:43] <hagzag> I understand there is no nvidia related info I can get here ?
[09:43] <JornStian> could someone please explain to me where the server-xorg-video-displaylink package went in the newest release?
[09:43] <bianca> Annette01 do you play on linux?
[09:43] <Annette01> No, but id like to! Im still trying to get some help with installing the thing :(
[09:44] <helmut_> hi
[09:44] <Annette01> Its throwing freezes at me :(
[09:44] <auronandace> !nvidia | hagzag
[09:44] <nbubuntu> hi anyone know about the log location for disk ultility ?
[09:44] <hagzag> thanks will take a look again
[09:44] <constrictor> Has anyone set up their own video conferencing solutions here?
[09:45] <bianca> lol i installed it with playonlinux, and i found a patch i need to apply to it there on the wineHQ site, but i cant figure out how to apply a wine patch into playonlinux
[09:45] <iceroot> bianca: playonlinux is already using patched wine versions
[09:45] <nbubuntu> I did a benchmark for disk utility , I dont wanted to format my pendrive it to do the benchmark test again. Please let me know the the log location ?
[09:46] <iceroot> bianca: that is the reason why there is playonlinux, to use different/patched wine versions for each program
[09:46] <MoL0ToV> http://pastebin.ca/2306399  <- suggestions?
[09:46] <iceroot> !anyone | constrictor
[09:46] <utilisateur> slt
[09:48] <JornStian> i'm trying to get a displaylink usb-dvi adapter to work in quantal, however i can't find server-xorg-video-displaylink anywhere...?
[09:48] <Annette01> Right now, the issue im having is that when i run the ubuntu 12.04 install from usb (ive tried sandisk, no name and kingston so far with no luck, all differnt sizes) and it freezes at this part of the startup where its a ton of text on screen scrolling then it just stops
[09:49] <gnomefreak> !info server-xorg-video-displaylink quantal
[09:50] <gnomefreak> JornStian: it is no longer a package
[09:50] <JornStian> uhm? so how would I get the unit working?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> at least not built anymore from us, or it merged into another package
[09:50] <JornStian> I tried compiling from source, that obviously doesn't work either :|
[09:51] <gnomefreak> JornStian: not sure im not a Xorg person
[09:51] <JornStian> but what changelog or whom should I ask to find it out?
[09:51] <JornStian> :/
[09:51] <JornStian> gnomefreak: thanks anyway
[09:51] <steveccc> i am trying to get many files from an http server - I can go to the url and it gives me a directory listing but ideally what I would like to do is mount the http:www........ address over a folder - is this possible>
[09:52] <Annette01> i guess ill try to dig out a dvd from the back of the closet and try to burn that
[09:52] <ikonia> steveccc: webdav.....
[09:52] <gnomefreak> JornStian: most likely we dont have some depends if it was removed. if it merged into another package than im not sure why it failed. you could try the ubuntu xorg(not sure of the real name for it)
[09:52] <steveccc> ikonia: the other server doesnt have webdav?
[09:52] <ikonia> steveccc: then no
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ikonia: what is the xorg channle?
[09:53] <ikonia> gnomefreak: #xorg
[09:53] <steveccc> is ther a gui version of wget?
[09:53] <JornStian> gnomefreak: I tried apt-cache search displaylink, gives no hits....
[09:53] <gnomefreak> channel even
[09:53] <gnomefreak> ikonia: for ubuntu?
[09:53] <ikonia> gnomefreak: ooh, no idea for ubuntu,
[09:53] <ikonia> gnomefreak: don't know if there is a specific #ubuntu-xorg
[09:53] <gnomefreak> JornStian: if it was merged or removed you would not find it
[09:54] <JornStian> gnomefreak, ikonia: thank you guys, I'll try asking the xorg guys
[09:54] <gnomefreak> nope that isnt it but thanks ikonia
[09:54] <ikonia> gnomefreak: sorry, I meant I don't know if there is even something like that for ubuntu,
[09:54] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I'm only aware of upstream xorg and xorg-devel
[09:54] <gnomefreak> there may not be
[09:55] <cjae> why when I try to install hashalot, I want to remove  linux-headers-3.5.0-17{u} linux-headers-3.5.0-17-generic{u}
[09:55] <gnomefreak> cjae: why do you want to remove the kernel packages?
[09:55] <cjae> it*
[09:55] <cjae> not me
[09:56] <gnomefreak> you dont need the -headers packages IIRC
[09:56] <Kalidarn> hmm, I set the resolution to 1600x1200 like it says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays#Resolution_Settings but it would seem my terminal font is taken back to 640x480, even though the grub menu is displaying at 1600x1200
[09:56] <bianca> annette
[09:56] <bianca> i have that same issue on my laptop, i used the same usb to install onto my desktop and it works fine
[09:56] <bianca> but i did find linux mint works good on my laptop
[09:56] <zubrow> enet.net
[09:57] <Kalidarn> seems to have stopped working after i upgraded to quantal now I think about it.
[09:58] <cjae> sha256 NAS4Free-x64-embedded-9.1.0.1.531.img mlockall: Cannot allocate memory Warning: couldn't lock memory, are you root?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> imk not 100% but grub resolution is seperate from terminal fonts
[09:58] <bianca> omg remember gamegreak studios?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> s/imk/im
[09:58] <Kalidarn> gnomefreak: yes that takes place after the kernel has been booted
[09:59] <Kalidarn> but you'll notice the first bit of text is actually in the regular font, then the console font is set
[09:59] <gnomefreak> k
[09:59] <bianca> gamefreak make the pokemon games
[10:01] <impi> damn thank you godf
[10:02] <impi> java 6 is way faster...even phpstorm was getting iffy
[10:02] <Maork> .
[10:02] <impi> my god, ooracle what were you thinking
[10:02] <bianca> omg pokemon x and y look awesom
[10:02] <auronandace> !ot | bianca
[10:04] <holybladder> Hi guys. This one might need to go to a more specific Compiz/Unity/whatever channel, but I've been looking for an answer for ages and haven't found a satisfactory one...I would like a way to run an arbitrary application (mostly social networking) as a sidebar in Ubuntu. I can position and pin it with Devilspie or to an extent with Compizconfig, but I can't get other windows to "maximise around" it. IE I want to
[10:04] <holybladder>  reserve a section of screen space for that app and know that other apps won't invade it. Any suggestions?
[10:05] <Kalidarn> holybladder: you might be better off posting that on the forums
[10:05] <holybladder> Kalidarn: Okay, is it offtopic here?
[10:05] <Kalidarn> nah wider audience
[10:06] <Kalidarn> seems fairly specific.
[10:06] <holybladder> Fair enough
[10:06] <justmeh> holybladder, look at docking mode
[10:07] <hagzag> no luck with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto for nvidia
[10:07] <hagzag> ay sugesstions ?
[10:08] <holybladder> justmeh: The extended window manager hint? Devilspie can set it, but it just undecorates and pins it, doesn't reserve the space
[10:09] <nbubuntu> I did a benchmark for disk utility , I dont wanted to format my pendrive it to do the benchmark test again. Please let me know the the log location ?
[10:09] <nbubuntu> hi anyone know about the log location for disk ultility ?
[10:15] <iceroot> nbubuntu: had a look at the manpage or -help?
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[10:17] <invariant> How do I setup things such that old linux kernel header packages don't remain installed?
[10:17] <Kartagis> would doing a lvcreate on a disk trash it?
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> invariant  define 'things'?
[10:18] <invariant> MonkeyDust, bits on the system.
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> !details | invariant
[10:18] <invariant> MonkeyDust, I don't care which solution you come up with.
[10:18] <invariant> MonkeyDust, I can install anything I want, change anything I want.
[10:19] <klawd> hi. i just installed xubuntu-desktop but it's outdated. it still has the old appfinder and themes. how do i upgrade that?
[10:19] <invariant> MonkeyDust, I am just asking for a good solution to this well defined problem.
[10:19] <auronandace> invariant: to give you a solution he needs to know what you want removed
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> invariant  if you don't want a solution, then why do you ask a question?
[10:20] <auronandace> klawd: you don't
[10:20] <invariant> auronandace, I don't want to have any kernel headers installed save for the two highest entries in grub.
[10:20] <klawd> auronandace: i don't?
[10:20] <auronandace> klawd: just stick to whats in the repo
[10:20] <invariant> auronandace, which is pretty much the definition of 'old'.
[10:20] <klawd> but the stuff in the repo is old and ugly :(
[10:20] <inverse> sup.
[10:21] <inverse> how is everyone doing this morning?
[10:21] <invariant> auronandace, really, the question was well defined; MonkeyDust just asked for an unneeded clarification.
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> klawd  the latest is not always the best or most stable
[10:21] <Kartagis> would doing a lvcreate on a disk trash it?
[10:22] <klawd> MonkeyDust: it's weird. at home i installed with netinst and it asked me on install time if i wanted xfce (or xubuntu, don't remember)
[10:22] <invariant> Anyway, does anyone have something to support me?
[10:22] <klawd> i checked that and it installed the latest stuff
[10:22] <auronandace> invariant: "such things" and "bits on the system" do not sound well defined to me
[10:22] <klawd> here, i couldn't use netinst and i have this outdated stuff
[10:22] <klawd> maybe i have testing at home tho, don't know
[10:22] <invariant> auronandace, this is about Ubuntu, isn't it?
[10:23] <invariant> I feel like I am talking to a prototype robot which has no intelligence whatsoever.
[10:23] <dr_willis> the  netinstall installs the same stuff that the xubuntu cd would install
[10:23] <bianca> can anyone help me? i installed league of legends with playonlinux but when i launch it i just get a black launcher,
[10:23] <klawd> dr_willis: i used a normal ubuntu cd tho
[10:23] <inverse> i'm about to install Ubuntu, and i was curious, what's the best way to put it in here? along Windows 7?
[10:23] <auronandace> invariant: you mentioned kernel headers, remove the ones you don't need
[10:23] <dr_willis> klawd:  and they all use the same repos.
[10:23] <invariant> auronandace, obviously, automatically for all eternity.
[10:24] <klawd> so what's the best and safest way to switch to testing then?
[10:24] <dr_willis> inverse:  best would be to have a seperate hard drive for ubuntu.
[10:24] <noxygen> invariant: i wasnt here but i think You Don't need to be mean
[10:24] <dr_willis> klawd:  testing? as in the 'debian testing' ? ubuntu osent have that. You  could find a xfce PPA perhaps that may  havce newer stuff
[10:25] <auronandace> !dualboot | inverse
[10:25] <invariant> noxygen, this channel is about support; to me it seems more about trolling if people ask really dumb questions in response to questions.
[10:25] <inverse> i actually do have a spare hard drive, but i would like to install it on the same hard drive just so i don't have to waste time switching.
[10:25] <inverse> wouldn't that be easier?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> noxygen  invariant is the only intelligent person in the channel, we ought to be aware of that
[10:25] <bianca> anyone?
[10:25] <dr_willis> inverse:  depends on the details.. my pc has  4 hard drives. ;)
[10:25] <auronandace> inverse: dual boot doesn't restrict you to one harddrive
[10:25] <IdleOne> invariant: consider that removal your only warning to change your attitude.
[10:25] <noxygen> inverse: Burn the cd, boot on and install on another partition or even better on a second hd
[10:26] <inverse> i see.
[10:26] <dr_willis> inverse:  you asked what was 'best' - its very handy to have the linux install totally on itss own hard drive on your  desktop machine.
[10:26] <inverse> i noticed on the website that you can download the Windows installer for Ubuntu
[10:26] <inverse> any benefit to that?
[10:26] <auronandace> inverse: avoid wubi if you can
[10:26] <dr_willis> inverse:  thats 'wubi' ....  dont use wubi.
[10:26] <dr_willis> thats a far far way from 'best'
[10:26] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:27] <IdleOne> invariant: in response to your question I suppose you could write a script that looks for newer installed version of the kernel headers and removes the old ones. I wouldn't know how to do that though.
[10:27] <inverse> lol
[10:27] <invariant> IdleOne, yes, I thought of that myself already.
[10:27] <inverse> okie well i want to install it on my hard drive, is there another way to do that without using Wubi?
[10:27] <invariant> IdleOne, and I can write that script.
[10:27] <IdleOne> invariant: well then, get to it :)
[10:27] <invariant> IdleOne, however, I thought Ubuntu was for human beings, meaning that such things should already work.
[10:27] <dr_willis> inverse:  the  normal install CCAN  dual boot from a single hard drive. you just need to resize your windows partions during install.
[10:28] <dr_willis> inverse:   be  sure to make backups of your system first..
[10:28] <invariant> IdleOne, these are practical features that an OS should have (clearning up the mess it creates)
[10:28] <dr_willis> inverse:  a power failure during resizeing = bad...
[10:28] <ikonia> invariant: stop
[10:28] <ikonia> invariant: leaving legacy kernels in place is not a mess
[10:28] <inverse> just out of curiosity, what's wrong with Wubi?
[10:28] <inverse> just for my own general knowledge.
[10:28] <IdleOne> invariant: feel free to create the script and package it, it may some day get added as a default.
[10:28] <invariant> ikonia, leaving a few around is not a problem.
[10:28] <ikonia> invariant: apt-get has clean up fuctions to remove obsolote packages, which you can run if you need to
[10:28] <dr_willis> inverse:  its fragile.  pron to crashing/brekaage. and hard to fix
[10:28] <invariant> ikonia, leaving 15 around is a problem.
[10:28] <ikonia> invariant: then remove them,
[10:29] <inverse> hmm.
[10:29] <ikonia> invariant: see if the apt-get clean up functions mark them as obsolte
[10:29] <dr_willis> They finally  got rid of that 'computer janitor' tool. ;) it caused more problems then it fixed
[10:29] <ikonia> (which will auto remove them)
[10:31] <bianca> i need help running a .sh file in playonlinux
[10:31] <lauksas> hi all, looking for an advice about ubuntu... I thinking to migrate to kubuntu, since unity is full of bugs, someone can tell me the pros and cons?
[10:31] <inverse> doesn't Wubi create the partition itself once it starts to install Ubuntu?
[10:31] <dr_willis> lauksas:  try it out.. see if you like it.
[10:31] <inverse> i have a lot of questions concerning Ubuntu, i'm glad someone is here.
[10:31] <dr_willis> Ill stick with Unity.
[10:32] <dr_willis> lauksas:  its trivial to have both desktops installed on the same system. you can switch  easially
[10:33] <Kartagis> bianca: make it executable with chmod +x file.sh, then use it like ./file.sh
[10:33] <bianca> Kartagis i have no idea what that means
[10:33] <lauksas> you mean install de KDE in my ubuntu? .. I know that it is possible, but the unity... is giving me headache
[10:34] <Kartagis> bianca: oh, and this is #ubuntu, join playonlinux channel
[10:34] <lauksas> since I install KDE, unity will still going up?
[10:34] <penguinman> lauksas: not at the same time, no
[10:34] <bianca> how do i find that channel
[10:34] <invariant> lauksas, the only limitation to the amount of desktop environments you can install is your diskspace.
[10:34] <penguinman> lauksas: you have the option to chose which de you use at login
[10:35] <dr_willis> lauksas:  install whatever-dektop packages you  want
[10:35] <IdleOne> bianca: /join #playonlinux
[10:35] <Kartagis> bianca: /j #playonlinux, it exists
[10:35] <invariant> lauksas, every user can select a different desktop environment and they can all be in use at the same time.
[10:35] <dr_willis> !kubuntu
[10:35] <invariant> lauksas, do not reinstall a completely new operating system if you only want to change desktop environment.
[10:35] <foo357> Hello, I've got a computer running 12.04 x86_64 and I need a 32 bit package, libfontconfig1 ... I think all I need to do is to add the 32-bit repose to my sources.list and that's it... question si which repos do I need?
[10:36] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop        wait a bit.. its like a 400mb download.. log out.. select kde
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> lauksas  simply install the kde desktop environment, logout, select kde, login
[10:36] <dr_willis> !find libfontconfig1
[10:37] <blackbeard> Hi!
[10:37] <blackbeard> can anybody help me with python macros discoverability?
[10:37] <blackbeard> I was using LO 3.6.2 but then tried 4 alpha 1 - and could not see my scripts,
[10:37] <blackbeard> which I copied to ~/.config/libreoffice/4/user/Scripts/python
[10:37] <blackbeard> so I purged LO 4, removed ppa repositories and installed 3.6.2 from standard Ubuntu repos, alongside  with libreoffice-script-provider-python 1:3.6.2~rc2-0ubuntu4
[10:37] <FloodBot1> blackbeard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <blackbeard> scripts are still in ~/.config/libreoffice/3/user/Scripts/python but also not visible now from run macro dialog
[10:38] <antonio_> Aloha folks...
[10:38] <antonio_> So I finally installed the latest version :D
[10:38] <antonio_> Going to take a bit to get used to this..went from 10.04 to 12.10
[10:38] <bianca> nobody on the playonlinux chanel talks
[10:39] <antonio_> For some reason I can't get wifi to work...I got on here with a eth connection
[10:39] <antonio_> How can I enable wireless?
[10:39] <IdleOne> blackbeard: sounds like a #libreoffice question
[10:40] <blackbeard> ooops, I'm in the wrong channel
[10:40] <inverse> yea, i'm just going to download the iso, mount it, then just create a separate partition in BIOS to install it on.
[10:40] <inverse> sounds easier.
[10:41] <Kartagis> bianca: patience young warlock
[10:42] <mpajor_op5> padawan* :-)
[10:42] <foo357> dr_willis: well in which repos does the packages reside in?
[10:43] <dr_willis> what package
[10:44] <foo357> dr_willis: the ones I mentioned about 10 minutes ago :) libfontconfig1
[10:44] <bianca> stillnobody
[10:44] <dr_willis> no idea. you shouldent need to add any repos
[10:45] <foo357> dr_willis: I got the 64 bit version of the sources.list file, appending the whole 32 bit version seems like it could be a bit overkill
[10:46] <IdleOne> bianca: We don't need an update every 5 minutes on what the other channel is or isn't doing. Your issue appears to be a playonlimux problem and playonlinux is not supported in this channel.
[10:46] <antonio_> argh
[10:47] <antonio_> for some reason I can't get my wireless connections to work in 12.10
[10:47] <dr_willis> foo357: you have a 64 bit ppa you are using?
[10:48] <dr_willis> 64 bit ubuntu can pull in needed 32bit files with no changes to the sources.list i thought
[10:48] <bianca>  //update.log.07 There is still no response in the playonlinux irc channel, as they days stretch on, i begin to worry about they survival..
[10:49] <amcsi_work> hi
[10:49] <foo357> dr_willis: hmm yes that might be true... but the problem is further complicated by the fact that the target computer doesn't have an internet connection :S
[10:49] <amcsi_work> I'm using ubuntu 12.10 and it doesn't let me change the date and time in its settings. Please help.
[10:50] <kaka> hi
[10:50] <emx> how do i get the ips of the used nameservers?
[10:50] <Sling> emx: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:51] <amcsi_work> it's like greyed out for me
[10:51] <emx> Sling, nameserver 127.0.1.1 <-- there must be more to it.
[10:51] <ikonia> /etc/resolv.conf should point at 127.0.1.1 on ubuntu
[10:51] <Sling> ah
[10:51] <ikonia> due to the way the dns resolution is setup on ubuntu - it uses local naming service to forward to external resources
[10:51] <Sling> of course, something out of the ordinary :)
[10:52] <Sling> the ubuntu way
[10:52] <mz`> dnsmasq used by networkmanager
[10:52] <Klojum> amcsi_work: how different is your time? Perhaps you selected the wrong timezone during installation?
[10:52] <mz`> completely out of control. etc/resolv.conf should contain the dns caches of the ISP, damnit.
[10:52] <ee12113> hello
[10:52] <kaka> hello
[10:53] <kaka> SB
[10:53] <ikonia> mz`: what ?
[10:53] <kaka> 你是SB
[10:53] <antonio_> can someone help me to get my wireless connection working?
[10:53] <mz`> it is not right to use local dns cache, to use the real dns caches
[10:53] <thec4ke> ubuntu devs: lets make dns resolution dependent on a desktop app!
[10:53] <mz`> more processes for no gain
[10:54] <thec4ke> for people who wanted to use ubuntu as a server.. yyyyea sorry
[10:54] <mz`> 1 network manager + 1 dnsmasq ... instead of one dhclient and normal resolv.conf..
[10:54] <emx> so there is no way in ubuntu to read out the used nameservers?
[10:54] <mz`> there is
[10:54] <mz`> connection information in the network manager
[10:55] <mz`> if i remmeber well
[10:55] <thec4ke> pretty sure you can still use resolv.conf if you want
[10:55] <thec4ke> it will just break networkmanager
[10:55] <thec4ke> i run a router/firewall that completely ignores network manager
[10:56] <thec4ke> just add whatever dns you want to it or use dhclient
[10:57] <antonio_> anyone??
[10:57] <thec4ke> you might wanna describe your problem antonio_ and see if anyone can help
[10:57] <Speiros> Hello.  Can anyone direct me to somewhere I can get help regarding my microphone, as I'm using Ubuntu 10.04, and the microphone on my headset won't work in Paltalk.
[10:57] <antonio_> can someone help me to get my wireless connection working?
[10:58] <Klojum> which part is not working, antonio_ ?
[10:58] <antonio_> its not connecting..
[10:58] <antonio_> I don't have any wireless connections in the drop down menu
[10:59] <k1l> antonio_: can you show the line of your wireless card in "lspci" or "lsusb"?
[10:59] <Klojum> so the wireless network card is properly installed in the first place?
[10:59] <k1l> antonio_: make sure that no hardware settings have turned that wireless thing off
[10:59] <antonio_> k1l: here http://pastebin.com/RVNsZebJ
[11:00] <antonio_> klojum: yep..it worked on 10.04 about an hour ago...
[11:00] <antonio_> just finished installing 12.10
[11:00] <dr_willis> so you upgraded 10.04 to 12.10
[11:00] <Klojum> Installing or upgrading?
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  right click on the network applet, check 'en able wireless'
[11:01] <antonio_> monkeydust: there is no option to enable wireless
[11:01] <Klojum> Is networking altogether enabled?
[11:01] <antonio_> networking is enabled..the wired connection works fine
[11:01] <k1l> he needs the b43 driver and not the wl driver for that card. maybe its the wrong module
[11:03] <antonio_> k1l: how can I get that?
[11:03] <antonio_> actually..let me restart..brb
[11:03] <kepler> does wireless disable automatically when wired?
[11:04] <dr_willis> kepler:  no
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> kepler  i'm wired now, wireless still detects plenty connections, so no
[11:04] <keanehsiao> hi… everybody. I just change some configuration in sysctl.conf and reboot.  after start, I can connect instance via 80 port but ssh(22) port… how can I change it back???
[11:04] <k1l> kepler: yes, you can just use one connection in standard settings. but you can still siwtch between. its just connected to one at time
[11:05] <antonio_> back
[11:05] <bianca> can anyone help we with this wine tutorial http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit im upto the secont step and confused
[11:05] <k1l> antonio_: can you show a "lsmod"
[11:06] <antonio_> yeah
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> bianca  type /join #winehq
[11:06] <keanehsiao> hi… everybody. I just change some configuration in sysctl.conf and reboot.  after start, I can connect instance via 80 port but ssh(22) port… how can I change it back???   1000*thanks
[11:07] <antonio_> k1l: here you go
[11:07] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/dmhcfyCN
[11:08] <k1l> antonio_: ok, you dont have the b43 modul running which is neede for your card. im looking for an english tutorial to install that
[11:09] <funkt> Hi there Im trying to move the unity bar to the bottom does anyone know the simplest way of doing this in 64bit version of 12.04
[11:09] <bianca> nmobody talks in other channels
[11:10] <antonio_> thanks k1l:
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> bianca  it's because it's night in most of the english speaking world, i guess
[11:10] <k1l> antonio_: well, lets do it manually: "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source broadcom-sta-common broadcom-sta-source "  that removes old drivers that might not work
[11:11] <k1l> after that install " sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer " that is the open driver
[11:11] <ioria> antonio_: do you need broadcom driver ?
[11:12] <antonio_> ok did all of that
[11:12] <antonio_> k1l: Should I try to restart now?
[11:12] <k1l> antonio_: ok pastebin a "lsmod" again?
[11:13] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/PcSk181h
[11:14] <k1l> antonio_: ok i would try a restart as the easiest
[11:15] <antonio_> ok..hopefully it works :D
[11:15] <antonio_> if not back for more ;)
[11:15] <antonio_> exit
[11:15] <antonio_> damn..not terminal ;()
[11:15] <antonio_> ;)
[11:15] <FloodBot1> antonio_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <johnnnnnny> when running "ps aux", what do the brackets mean??
[11:17] <johnnnnnny> root         2  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    00:48   0:00 [kthreadd]
[11:18] <antonio_> hey k1l: no go :(
[11:19] <johnnnnnny> ?
[11:19] <johnnnnnny> antonio_: what are you trying to figure out?
[11:19] <antonio_> trying to get wireless working
[11:19] <Kartagis> would doing a lvcreate on a disk trash it?
[11:19] <NeoXibalba> hello
[11:20] <johnnnnnny> hi
[11:20] <NeoXibalba> How can i remove the commercial staff from ubuntu. (amazon in search, proprietary software search in software manager)
[11:20] <k1l> antonio_: ok, than try the wl driver like mentioned here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:20] <cag> goto
[11:20] <johnnnnnny> antonio_: wifi issues?
[11:21] <johnnnnnny> antonio_: what card do you have?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  read this to see what lvcreate does (scroll down w bit) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1782296
[11:22] <NeoXibalba>  sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[11:22] <NeoXibalba> to remove amazon ads
[11:22] <tinti> Hi, does any body have notices about ubuntu android?
[11:22] <tinti> *news
[11:23] <antonio_> I have a broadcom card
[11:24] <k1l> !phone | tinti
[11:26] <antonio_> k1l: I'm following the directions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:26] <antonio_> not sure what to do
[11:27] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: what is LVM's pro versus otherwise?
[11:28] <k1l> antonio_: look at the lsmod if there is the b43 module loaded.
[11:28] <Iszak> Anyone know a PPA to get vsftpd on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  with LVM, you can easily resize partitions on-the-fly
[11:28] <k1l> antonio_: ah we can check if there it is shut off by a hardware key with "sudo rfkill list"
[11:28] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: any other?
[11:29] <k1l> Iszak: why a PPA?
[11:29] <Iszak> k1l sorry I should clarify what version of vsftpd, 3.0
[11:29] <Iszak> Currently I'm on 2.3.5 which lacks a feature I need.
[11:30] <antonio_> k1l: I think its working http://pastebin.com/CJA7FpMW
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  easily create partitions, it's mainly used used for server, i guess the people in #ubuntu-server know more details
[11:30] <antonio_> er, I think I mean its installed
[11:31] <antonio_> going to restart and see what happens..hopefully I wont have to come back
[11:31] <k1l> antonio_: yes. make a "sudo iwlist scan" please
[11:31] <tinti> ubottu: no previously they have announced ubuntu/android a dual system in which you could have both systems
[11:32] <k1l> tinti: that goes in the same channel. but there are no news
[11:32] <tinti> ubottu: kkk, impress me
[11:32] <tinti> k1l: what?
[11:32] <varghese> hii
[11:32] <varghese> hii
[11:33] <varghese> hellow
[11:33] <varghese> i'm new here
[11:33] <antonio_> aloha...
[11:33] <antonio_> nothing is working
[11:34] <k1l> antonio_: yes. make a "sudo iwlist scan" please
[11:34] <antonio_> ok
[11:34] <antonio_> k1l:  Interface doesn't support scanning.
[11:34] <Wizek> What is the difference between putting your app's settings as a dotfile in `~/` or into `~/.config` ?
[11:35] <daze> when I run Nautilus as root, it's 5x faster than when I run it as myself. I disabled all extensions, thumbnails, etc. - nothing helps. Is there a known fix for that? There are a lot of people complaining online, but I failed to find a solution.. :/
[11:35] <tinti> k1l: this in fact http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[11:35] <k1l> antonio_: is it blocked in "sudo rfkill list"?
[11:35] <tinti> I would like to have more info
[11:35] <tinti> is there a #ubuntu-dev?
[11:35] <k1l> tinti: ask in #ubuntu-phone please
[11:36] <antonio_> I just ran that command..didn't do anything
[11:36] <Us3r_Unfriendly> hi
[11:36] <k1l> antonio_: hmm
[11:37] <k1l> antonio_: you can try to deinstall the b43 driver and install the wl driver, like mentioned in the wiki page
[11:37] <tinti> k1l: thanks
[11:38] <phoenix_firebrd> how long does it take to get the confirmation mail after adding a gpg key?
[11:39] <apos> dont know. i got locked out of my microsoft account as soon as i submitted mine.
[11:40] <foo357> Hello, I've got a local .deb package, can I somehow determine it's dependencies?
[11:41] <Us3r_Unfriendly> antonio_: what driver are you trying to use?  have you tried ndiswrapper as well?
[11:41] <antonio_> k1l: how do I uninstall the b43 driver?
[11:45] <phoenix_firebrd> foo357: for what purpose?
[11:45] <phoenix_firebrd> apos: are you talking about the key?
[11:45] <antonio_> us3r_unfriendly: just trying to get wireless to work
[11:46] <foo357> nevermind phoenix_firebrd I fixed it
[11:47] <phoenix_firebrd> foo357: how?
[11:48] <antonio_> argh
[11:49] <cristian_c> Hi
[11:49] <cristian_c> I've enabled suspend with: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
[11:49] <cristian_c> It works but when I try resume, a kernel panic occurs or desktop is unusable
[11:50] <cristian_c> If I launch chromium by the terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: No such file or directory
[11:50] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[11:50] <Ben64> cristian_c: don't suspend?
[11:51] <cristian_c> Ben64, the suspend works, the resume no
[11:51] <Ben64> if you don't suspend, you don't have to resume
[11:51] <cristian_c> Ben64, but I can suspend
[11:51] <Ben64> ok, then don't resume
[11:52] <cristian_c> Ben64, but I must resume
[11:52] <Ben64> but it doesn't work
[11:52] <cristian_c> if I suspend
[11:52] <cristian_c> Ben64, it resume, but bad
[11:52] <cristian_c> *resumes
[11:52] <Ben64> so don't
[11:53] <cristian_c> Ben64, I don't understand
[11:53] <dr_willis> suspend doesnt always work with all hardware or drivers.
[11:53] <antonio_> this is starting to get really annoying
[11:53] <cristian_c> dr_willis, how can I solve it?
[11:54] <dr_willis> cristian_c:  No idea. It can be very hardware specific
[11:54] <cristian_c> dr_willis, ok
[11:54] <dr_willis> I would check the forums and bug reports for your specific hardware
[11:54] <cristian_c> ok
[11:55] <dr_willis> I never use suspend or hibernate. It just causes more troubles then its worth on linux and windows
[11:56] <apos> "Playing error : Resource not found. at /usr/bin/../share/gmusicbrowser/gmusicbrowser_gstreamer-0.10.pm line 135."
[11:56] <cees_> oolla
[11:56] <cees_> helus my friend is pito
[11:57] <nbubuntu> anyone know where does Disk Utility log save ?  I tested the smart and benchmark , would like to retrieve it
[11:57] <cees_> owdj9e3
[11:57] <cees_> ebucebc
[11:57] <cees_> dw vfk
[11:57] <cees_> ecmoejc
[11:57] <cees_> encioec
[11:57] <FloodBot1> cees_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <cees_> soy uun polito el mas wapo de todos de mt onmf
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:58] <antonio_> argh
[11:58] <vivek_> i have a problem at hand with ubuntu 12.04 pls can somebody help
[11:59] <_JF1976_> Q)> is there an easy way to include auto wireless WPA2/PSK connection for i386_netboot_12.04.iso ?
[11:59] <antonio_> k1l: and anyone else that can help.  When I try to install the WL driver I get this http://pastebin.com/t3LKK8sA
[12:01] <dr_willis> Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the
[12:01] <dr_willis> kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed.
[12:01] <dr_willis> So install the kernel source. :) most likely you just need the headers
[12:01] <dr_willis> !headers
[12:03] <foo357_> Hello, where can I configure the network setting for 12.04?
[12:03] <antonio_> dr_willis: was that for me?
[12:04] <dr_willis> antonio_:  that was your error message.. you need the proper kernel files to compile the driver
[12:04] <antonio_> dr_willis: so will sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) do that for me?
[12:04] <dr_willis> seems weird the package dident pull them in when you installed it
[12:05] <dr_willis> thats the command for the kernel headers.. yes..  You need those
[12:05] <antonio_> Thanks
[12:05] <dr_willis> you might need the full soruce.. but that would be weird.
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  it looks something went wrong with wifi, during installation
[12:07] <nbubuntu> anyone know where does Disk Utility log save ?  I tested the smart and benchmark , would like to retrieve it
[12:07] <cristian_c> dr_willis, I've found nothing with launchpad or google
[12:07] <cristian_c> :(
[12:08] <antonio_> still giving me that error
[12:08] <dr_willis> antonio_:  you may need the full kernel source then. Not sure wht the command for that is
[12:08] <antonio_> this is so damn annoying!
[12:09] <phoenix_firebrd> nbubuntu: it should be in /var/log
[12:09] <dr_willis> linux-source - Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches
[12:09] <antonio_> I can't get any of my critical work done because of this b.s.
[12:09] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[12:09] <cfhowlett> antonio_, always keep one backup kernel
[12:09] <dr_willis> I bought several wireless dongles that work out of the box. ;)
[12:09] <antonio_> E: Package 'kernel-source' has no installation candidate
[12:10] <dr_willis> done a 'sudo apt-get update' recently ?
[12:10] <antonio_> yep
[12:10] <dr_willis> !info kernel-source
[12:10] <dr_willis> hmm. apt-cache search just shoiwed it here
[12:10] <dr_willis> !info linux-source-3.5.0
[12:11] <dr_willis> try that one i guess
[12:11] <antonio_> what do I do?
[12:12] <cjae> what is the default network tools package called ? the one that has ping, traceroute etc.. in gui
[12:12] <cjae> or meta package name
[12:12] <nbubuntu> phoenix_firebrd : nope , can't find any of it .
[12:13] <jabulmer12> cjae: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-tools
[12:13] <antonio_> dr_willis: any idea what I can do?
[12:14] <dr_willis> did you try to install   linux-source-3.5.0  ?
[12:14] <dr_willis> what ubunbtu version are you using anyway
[12:15] <antonio_> 12.10
[12:15] <subdesign> can i rename disk label if Im on the ubuntu drive that I unmount?
[12:15] <phoenix_firebrd> nbubuntu: check /var/log/syslog
[12:15] <dr_willis> tune2fs can do that i belive subdesign
[12:15] <cjae> jabulmer12: this is the gui one?
[12:16] <subdesign> thx
[12:16] <antonio_> dr_willis: how do I install that?
[12:16] <PatrickDickey> antonio, what are you trying to do (I just came into the room)?
[12:17] <dr_willis> same as you ahve been installing other packages... sudo apt-get install packaagename
[12:17] <antonio_> should I do sudo apt-get  linux-source-3.5.0 ?
[12:17] <nbubuntu> phoenix_firebrd : nope , nothing at /var/log/syslog
[12:18] <antonio_> patrickdickey: trying to get my wireless working
[12:18] <PatrickDickey> antonio_: sudo apt-get install linux-source-3.5.0
[12:18] <dr_willis> thats the command... yes...
[12:18] <jabulmer12> cjae: I havent checked if its the gui one
[12:18] <FlowRiser> antonio, what chip do you have ?
[12:18] <jabulmer12> cjae: I think its for both
[12:19] <Kartagis> !grub2
[12:19] <antonio_> E: Invalid operation linux-source-3.5.0
[12:19] <antonio_> flowriser: broadcom b43
[12:19] <dr_willis> antonio_:  and whats the EXACT command you used
[12:20] <FlowRiser> antonio_, search for drivers first, on the manufacturers website. Then install whatever you need ...
[12:20] <subdesign> dr_willis, done, thanks
[12:20] <phoenix_firebrd> nbubuntu: i think the disk utility doesn't log messages to a file, you better wait here till someone helps you
[12:20] <dr_willis> the drivers seem to be in the repos.. its asking for the kernel source to compile them
[12:20] <antonio_> sudo apt-get linux-source-3.5.0
[12:20] <FlowRiser> sudo at get install packagename
[12:20] <FlowRiser> apt*
[12:20] <PatrickDickey> antonio_: sudo apt-get install linux-source-3.5.0
[12:20] <dr_willis> antonio_:  notice the examples we used  had an 'install' :)
[12:21] <Kartagis> antonio_: sudo apt-get install linux-source-3.5.0
[12:21]  * PatrickDickey thinks dr_willis is a smart cookie
[12:21]  * FlowRiser sees that love is in the air.
[12:22]  * PatrickDickey sprays that love repellent spray around himself
[12:22]  * dr_willis burps
[12:22]  * FlowRiser thinks that "spray" smells like fart
[12:22] <aged> what amount of memory would you reccomend for 11 10 in vbox please
[12:23] <cfhowlett> aged, half of your available ram
[12:23] <PatrickDickey> aged, what are you going to use it for, and how much memory do you have total?
[12:23] <FlowRiser> aged, the amount required by your os + the amount required by 11.10
[12:23] <nbubuntu> phoenix_firebrd : because I tested a thumb drive benchmark a must to format to test the write seq. I dont want to test again since I have file save in it and I need to format it empty. There's a log somewhere which save under disk utility
[12:24] <aged> 2gb vbox on xp pro dual boot with win7
[12:24] <PatrickDickey> aged I'd say no more than 1GB then. Otherwise vbox will give you warnings.
[12:25] <aged> thanks
[12:25] <PatrickDickey> aged no problem. If you're doing this to decide whether you like ubuntu or not, bear in mind that it acts differently in a virtual environment.
[12:26] <dr_willis> lubuntu works well in vbox
[12:26] <dr_willis> very handy tool to have
[12:26] <aged> yep then will have to learn how to triple boot with 7and xp pro and run raid with eigh hdd
[12:26] <cfhowlett> aged, slower for one thing.  also, unless you install guest additions, you won't see native resolution
[12:27] <cjae> jabulmer12: gnome-nettool
[12:27] <aged> tried 1210 did not like unity launcher bar on the side
[12:27] <PatrickDickey> aged Yeah, I can't help with the RAID part, but the triple boot won't be too bad. Just make sure you install Ubuntu last.
[12:28] <aged> will cross that bridge when we comee to it
[12:28] <PatrickDickey> aged: There are other options. I'm running Lubuntu, You've got KDE, Gnome, XFCE, and others.
[12:28] <jabulmer12> cjae: aweomse :)
[12:28]  * dr_willis tried unity and liked the hud and the quicklists and other neat features
[12:29] <cjae> yep
[12:29] <antonio_> thanks!
[12:29] <aged> let me get my head round it first then i might be tempted to explore more
[12:29] <antonio_> it worked! wireless !
[12:30] <PatrickDickey> I like Unity. I just like trying different things. Plus, I was having "issues" with my computer, so I thought switching to a lighter desktop would help.... Nope.
[12:30] <dr_willis> lubuntu is about as light as it gets ;) for a full features desktop
[12:31] <bizhanMona> HI I am using Ubuntu 12.10. I am trying to utility from www.flashfrom.org to update the bios on my PC. I have used the same utility on Fedora 17, which can detect the SPI BIOS on the board, but it fails on Ubuntu? Thx
[12:31] <PatrickDickey> Yeah. it definitely is.
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> cinnamon on ubuntu (ppa) was a buggy failure here
[12:31] <andygraybeal> can someone briefly explain a "rolling release"  ... sounds like "moving target" to me :P
[12:32] <jrib> !sru | andygraybeal
[12:32] <PatrickDickey> andygraybeal: It basically is a moving target. They set up a specific timeframe, and continually create new versions.  Think major versions not so much the .1 or .3 versions.
[12:32] <jrib> andygraybeal: that's ubuntu's update policy.  On a stable release, they just keep updating things to new versions as they are released
[12:32] <jrib> andygraybeal: s/stable/rolling release/ sorry :)
[12:32] <cfhowlett> andygraybeal, consider that LTS releases are every 2 years, supported for 5 years.  Interim releases are every 6 months, supported for 2 years.  NOW: eliminate the interim release.  You'd have LTS's with point releases i.e. 12.4, 12.4.1, etc.
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> andygraybeal  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release
[12:32] <BluesKaj> andygraybeal, a rolling release doesn't have any dated releases, the OS is constantly upgraded
[12:33] <andygraybeal> thank you guys
[12:33] <PatrickDickey> bizhanMona: was it flashfrom.net or flashfrom.org? I ask, because I can't get to flashfrom.org.
[12:35] <PatrickDickey> bizhanMona: try joining #flashrom and ask there. That's their channel for IRC. I'd imagine they'll be able to guide you better than we can.
[12:35] <bizhanMona> PatrickDicky: flashfrom.org and thank you so much for your help.
[12:36] <auronandace> cfhowlett: interim releases are 18 months support, not 2 years
[12:36] <blackangel> guys had anyone have any issues with ati cards on 12.10 ?
[12:37] <auronandace> blackangel: many people have
[12:37] <adamk> blackangel: Someone, somewhere, probably has an issue with ati cards on 12.10.
[12:37] <cfhowlett> auronandace, ah ya?  I thought that got increased as well.  thanks for correcting my bad intel.
[12:37] <adamk> blackangel: What's the real question.
[12:37] <PatrickDickey> blackangel: yes. Which card do you have?
[12:37] <blackangel> i have the 5XXXX its supported but when i try to install the latest driver it show me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1559445/
[12:38] <adamk> The log specifically mentions the need to have the kernel headers installed... Do you have them installed?
[12:39] <blackangel> i honestly dont know how to verify that :(
[12:39] <blackangel> i am learning
[12:39] <PatrickDickey> blackangel: you need to run sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:40]  * PatrickDickey easier to give the command, since kernel-headers doesn't exist.
[12:40] <blackangel> Patric that code gives unable to locate package
[12:41] <PatrickDickey> blackangel:  one second then.
[12:41] <dr_willis> !headers
[12:42] <dr_willis> done a sudo apt-get update recently?
[12:42] <blackangel> yes
[12:42] <blackangel> just did it
[12:42] <blackangel> carzy i try again now it worked
[12:42] <cfhowlett> serious question ... I just learned that macs keeps a log of EVERY file you download.  Does linux/ubuntu also?
[12:42] <Ben64> dr_willis: that doesn't seem like the best way to install headers
[12:43] <Ben64> I'd do... sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g`
[12:43] <dr_willis> it worked for someone just 10 min ago
[12:43]  * PatrickDickey hopes ubuntu doesn't keep track of every file I downloaded... it might get jealous of all the Fedora iso's that I got. :P
[12:44] <Ben64> pretty sure ubottu's method only works for the current kernel, and then doesn't get new headers when the kernel changes
[12:44] <blackangel> trying to install the driver lest see
[12:44] <dr_willis> they needed the headers and sorce
[12:44] <PatrickDickey> Ben64: what exactly does your version of the command do? And for what blackangel needed, he only needs the current version.
[12:44]  * PatrickDickey or she*
[12:45] <commode-man> ikonia: hi
[12:45] <Ben64> PatrickDickey: it'd get linux-headers-generic as opposed to linux-headers-3.2.0-36-generic
[12:46] <Ben64> because what happens when 3.2.0-37 comes out
[12:46] <ikonia> commode-man: why do you keep hilighting me ?
[12:46] <commode-man> oops soree
[12:46] <ikonia> commode-man: you've done this multiple times, why do you keep doing it ?
[12:46] <blackangel> i will restart my mouse is frozen
[12:47] <blackangel> be right back guys
[12:47] <commode-man> idk .......someone told me youre the admin
[12:47] <ikonia> commode-man: yes, so why do you keep pinging me ?
[12:47] <ikonia> commode-man: do you need something ?
[12:47] <commode-man> idk ......maybe i can be a mod
[12:47]  * cfhowlett this is better than netflix
[12:47] <ikonia> commode-man: very doubtful based on your contribution in the channel
[12:47] <ikonia> commode-man: I'd suggest reading the following information
[12:47] <yak_king> lol howlett
[12:48] <commode-man> go ahead
[12:48] <ikonia> commode-man: (ubottu has just sent you a pm)
[12:48] <commode-man> ok
[12:48] <commode-man> how do i read it
[12:49] <ikonia> commode-man: open the url in a web browser
[12:49] <PatrickDickey> commode-man: it should appear on the left side of your window, or at the top, depending on which chat client you're using.
[12:49] <commode-man> no nothing yet
[12:50] <commode-man> got it
[12:50] <commode-man> thanks folks.
[12:54] <andygraybeal> normally if i were goign to move from 10.04 to 12.04, i would wipe clean and reinstall, just to get the freshness feeling.  if i'm on rolling updates, does this mean i don't have to do this?
[12:54] <ikonia> andygraybeal: don't have to
[12:54] <ikonia> andygraybeal: recommended, debatable
[12:54] <ikonia> andygraybeal: keep in mind the period of time between releases
[12:54] <jabulmer12> You don't need to do fresh installs now
[12:55] <cfhowlett> andygraybeal, personally, I'd clean install major releases ...
[12:56] <blackangel> Patrick Thanks a lot it worked flawlessly  \(^_^)/ yeah
[12:56] <blackangel> now i can play on steam :) happy camper
[12:56] <kro[au]> Hi i've done a debootstrap install of 12.04, when i boot there is no console (output from the debug ofcourse but no login prompt) how ever, SSH is working and able to login.
[12:56] <blackangel> i will post the solution on ubuntu forums since no one answer me XD
[12:56] <jabulmer12> I find with ubuntu its easy to install a load of packages that you only use once
[12:57] <jabulmer12> So I do fresh installs on the Desktops
[12:57] <jabulmer12> but not on the servers
[12:57] <aged> right lubuntu loading in vbox
[12:59] <commode-man> im already on launchpad
[13:00] <ikonia> commode-man: we don't need a commentary
[13:00] <commode-man> bye
[13:03] <Geet> are there any ubuntu 12.04 based distros which use gnome3?
[13:03] <lcabreza> question: can you create a filesystem w/out logical volume group ?
[13:03] <dr_willis> hmm., i thought 12.04 did use gnome3
[13:04] <Geet> dr_willis, gnome shell
[13:04] <commode-man> its uses gtk3 libraries from gnome 3
[13:04] <dr_willis> you can install gnome-shell, there are some gnome-shell only unofficial varients ive seen
[13:04] <kro[au]> Hi i've done a debootstrap install of 12.04, when i boot there is no console (output from the debug ofcourse but no login prompt) how ever, SSH is working and able to login.
[13:04] <Geet> dr_willis, can you name any?
[13:04] <commode-man> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-session-fallback
[13:05] <Geet> commode-man, what is fallback for?
[13:05] <commode-man> gnome 2.32 like
[13:05] <dr_willis> nope - check the disrtowatch website
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> Geet  fallback looks like gnome2
[13:05] <cees_> icnioecrrvt4v
[13:05] <dr_willis> distrowatch
[13:05] <commode-man> its exactly gnome 2.32 but with new gtk3
[13:05] <cees_> ode estas makina
[13:05] <Geet> thanks
[13:05] <dr_willis> fallback is not exactly like gnome 2.
[13:06] <commode-man> so its bug free
[13:06] <cees_> hello
[13:06] <DJones> cees_: English only in this channel
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !es|cees_,
[13:06] <dr_willis> theres differances
[13:06] <MEGASHAREUPLOAD> Hello brothers!
[13:06] <dr_willis> and its definatly not bug free.
[13:06] <commode-man> have you used gnome 3
[13:06] <cees_> hello
[13:06] <commode-man> its unusable
[13:06] <dr_willis> ubuntu uses gnome3 as does gnome-shell
[13:06] <commode-man> hi
[13:06] <ikonia> commode-man: please dont spread fud
[13:06] <ikonia> commode-man: gnome 3 is perfectly stable
[13:06] <commode-man> whats fud
[13:06] <ikonia> commode-man: google it
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !fud
[13:07] <commode-man> ok
[13:07] <after> hello
[13:07] <cees_> hello
[13:07] <after> joseee
[13:07] <after> jose
[13:07] <cees_> tutu
[13:07] <after> jajaja
[13:07] <after> jajajajaa
[13:07] <after> jjajaja
[13:07] <FloodBot1> after: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <commode-man> yes the gtk3 libraries
[13:07] <ikonia> after: stop it please
[13:07] <cees_> amos a ecgh<r um f4v tgdb
[13:07] <cees_> dg vgt
[13:07] <after> halalalalalala
[13:07] <cees_> b
[13:07] <FloodBot1> cees_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <cees_> fe
[13:07] <DJones> jabulmer12: Stop that
[13:07] <DJones> jabulmer12: Sorry, after stop that
[13:07] <after> g
[13:07] <after> rb
[13:09] <angela_1> Hi all
[13:09] <AminosAmigos> Hello :)
[13:09] <commode-man> hi
[13:10] <after_> sois españolñes¿
[13:10] <after_> o ingleses?
[13:10] <DJones> !es | after_
[13:12] <angela_1> when ever I update my ubuntu 12.04, it gets done till 72% and at 73% it lists a number of error all the time like "W: Failed to fetch http://10.30.8.176/apt-cacher/security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-security/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to 10.30.8.176:http:". can some one help me with this
[13:12] <lordmonkey_> Can anyone help me with set label-guide on Ubuntu with GTop  using python for constant width indicator in Unity top panel ?
[13:12] <ikonia> angela_1: it can't connect to your cache server
[13:12] <ikonia> angela_1: talk to who runs the cache server
[13:12] <kro[au]> angela_1 use another mirror
[13:13] <angela_1> ikonia: thank you, but how can we know who runs cache server?
[13:14] <angela_1> kro[au]: another mirror in sense?
[13:14] <ikonia> angela_1: you're connecting to a mirror, based on IP - who set that up
[13:15] <dr_willis> apt-cache is a feature where you normally set up a single pc on the local lan to cache and hold/download all packages for the rest of the lan. to save download bandwitch.
[13:16] <ikonia> someone must have setup that cache
 ya, but i do not have much idea about who has set it.
[13:18] <dr_willis> angela_1:  so whos the admin/owner of this machine?
[13:18] <ikonia> angela_1: then either a.) find out and talk to them b.) change your mirror to a public one
[13:18] <yak_king> howdy cees!
[13:18] <aged> can i use a mouse with a wheel
[13:19] <ikonia> aged: yes
[13:19] <andygraybeal> thanks for the responses guys
[13:19] <yak_king> heheh I reading a few minutes behind.... sorry
[13:19] <cfhowlett> andygraybeal, have fun, be safe
[13:20] <angela_1> ikonia: okay. well I know the admin password so I have all the privileges.
[13:20] <dr_willis> aged:  scroll weels work fine here
[13:20] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:21] <kro[au]> resolved.
[13:21] <angela_1> ikonia: can you tell me how to change mirror to a public one?
[13:23] <foo357_> Hello, I've got a computer running 12.04 LTS x86_64 where I need to install some 32 bit packages, how can I do this?
[13:24] <andygraybeal> cfhowlett,  :))
[13:24] <jabulmer12> Hey
[13:24] <jabulmer12> the 32 bit packages can be installed and run as usual
[13:24] <jabulmer12> no specific changes required
[13:27] <subdesign> any replacement for gnome system tools in 12.10?
[13:27] <subdesign> repo has i386 only, cant install
[13:28] <fidel> heavily offtopic - but any channel you can recommend for hp-printer questions? i enabled ipsec on the printer (hell yeah thats possible) and now i cant reach the webinterface anymore hrhr
[13:28] <ikonia> fidel: if it's offtopic, don't ask it
[13:28] <ikonia> more so if you know it's offtopic
[13:28] <Pici> fidel:(fyi) #freenode can always suggest the proper channel for questions.
[13:28] <fidel> Pici: thx
[13:29] <jabulmer12> subdesign: Do you have the source code avalible
[13:29] <jabulmer12> ?
[13:31] <jabulmer12> subdesign: this should help http://www.shibuvarkala.com/2010/03/how-to-install-32bit-deb-applications.html
[13:31] <ikonia> subdesign: I strongly recommnd you do not follow the advice in that link
[13:32] <histo> jabulmer12: did you read that link?
[13:33] <histo> !info gnome-system-tools quantal | subdesign
[13:34] <Pici> That package is available for all the architectures we normally support
[13:34] <jabulmer12> histo: I read the website?
[13:34] <histo> foo357_: what are you trying to install?
[13:35] <moon`> Is there a way to get ubuntu to update without having to do restarts
[13:35] <moon`> I loathe system restarts for updates
[13:35] <moon`> I use to use ksplice to update the kernel but I see it doesn't work in 12.10
[13:37] <histo> moon`: they show 12.10 supported on their site
[13:38] <tyler_d> I'm running 12.04 64 and would like to unencrypt my hard-disk, how would I accomplish this?
[13:38] <histo> moon`: also you should look and vote for http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26083/
[13:40] <histo> tyler_d: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107410/can-you-unencrypt-remove-encryption-from-a-user-home-folder
[13:41] <tyler_d> histo: so I may as well re-install at this point... dirty dirty
[13:41] <tyler_d> histo: ty for getting back though
[13:42] <histo> tyler_d: I wouldn't reinstall. I'd just copy your contents out.
[13:45] <tyler_d> histo: how would I determine if its just the home directory or the entire disk that is encrypted?
[13:45] <histo> tyler_d: I would assume running mount or looking at fstab should shed some light on what is using ecryptfs
[13:51] <JerusalemToker42> anybody here?
[13:51] <ikonia> many people
[13:51] <histo> no
[13:52] <histo> only like 1700+ ppl
[13:54] <PatrickDickey> JerusalemToker42: next question?
[13:56] <blez> I can't find the wubi for ubuntu 12.10
[13:56] <blez> can someone give me a working link?
[13:56] <blez> the ones on ubuntu.com give me 404
[13:56] <odaynot> hi, guy
[13:57] <PatrickDickey> !wubi | blez This might point you in the right direction.
[13:57] <JerusalemT> so as I was saying before my net connection went down, i only have shell access to my ubuntu machine
[13:57] <JerusalemT> and i was using the GUI to mount drives
[13:57] <Pici> blez: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/wubi.exe
[13:58] <JerusalemT> from the menu, in the places section
[13:58] <JerusalemT> they didn't automount.
[13:58] <seednode> Are you unable to mount from shell?
[13:58] <histo> !mount | JerusalemT
[13:58] <JerusalemT> where is that info stored (the places shortcuts) and how can I mount those partitions from shell
[13:58] <JerusalemT> i don't know the parameters seednode
[13:58] <histo> JerusalemT: mount /dev/devicename /mount/point
[13:59] <BluesKaj> blez, if you intend to become a serious ubuntu user then wubi isn't like a full install of the OS ..it gives you an idea of what ubuntu is about that's all
[13:59] <PatrickDickey> Also blez, a lot of people come in here with issues because of wubi.
[13:59] <JerusalemT> anyone know where that is?
[13:59] <blez> I found it. Let's hope it doesn't screw up my bootloader
[14:00] <seednode> BluesKaj, I've never had issues with Wubi; installs with it have been just as stable as fresh installs.
[14:00] <linuxusr> Hi i add additional 2 ip`s on my debian based dedicated server by editing /etc/network/interfaces >>  http://pastebin.com/XBuc7UvN  >> please check for me the configration is right >> Thanks in Adnace for your kind time :)
[14:00] <PatrickDickey> JerusalemT: Do you know which drives are which?  If so, you can use fdisk -l to find out which drives are assigned to what /dev/ and then add them to your /etc/fstab. I would say check the link that ubottu put up earlier though.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> stability isn't what I meant seednode , but to each his own
[14:01] <PatrickDickey> !mount | JerusalemT check this link for more information.
[14:01] <seednode> BluesKaj, I'm just curious what issues you've had with it? I've not had more issues with than any other install method.
[14:02] <JerusalemT> let me try to refine my question. in the ubuntu GUI, i had shortcuts in the "places". where is that info available from the shell?
[14:02] <seednode> "Info" meaning contents/labels of your drives?
[14:02] <seednode> I'm not sure what you mean.
[14:03] <JerusalemT> sorry i'm not being clear.
[14:03] <zetheroo> is Unity running on Gnome? ... Is any part of the Unity desktop still Gnome?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> it's not real install , seednode....it's a file that runs in windows
[14:04] <ThinkT510> zetheroo: unity runs on top of gnome3
[14:04] <Pici> zetheroo: yes. Unity is a shell for gnome3, but its not gnome shell.
[14:04] <JerusalemT> In the ubuntu GUI, at the top, there is a menu option Places
[14:04] <seednode> So, Windows still runs in the background when you boot to Ubuntu with it? Odd, I haven't seen 2GB+ idle RAM usage with it
[14:04] <JerusalemT> I managed to bookmark the mounts there and simply had to click on them to mount them
[14:04] <JerusalemT> but i cant access the gui
[14:04] <seednode> Well, as other users have said, you'll probably have to mount them manually
[14:05] <JerusalemT> i got that part.
[14:05] <seednode> So, say you have files on a fourth drive (after the default /, /home, and /boot)
[14:05] <JerusalemT> my question is in what file is the "places" info stored?
[14:05] <ThinkT510> JerusalemT: are you running 10.04?
[14:05] <Pici> JerusalemT: What are you looking for? The names of the locations you mounted?
[14:05] <seednode> You'd use 'mount /dev/sda4 /mount/point/here' (Assuming sda4 is the disk)
[14:06] <JerusalemT> so how do i figure out what /dev/??? is?
[14:06] <blez> I downloaded the 12.10 version
[14:06] <ThinkT510> JerusalemT: sudo fdisk -l
[14:06] <seednode> BluesKaj, that was a legitimate question; "it's a file that runs in windows" So you boot into Windows with Ubuntu running over it?
[14:06] <ThinkT510> JerusalemT: or launch gparted
[14:07] <JerusalemT> making progress
[14:08] <JerusalemT> found em
[14:08] <blez> I already downloaded it from http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/12.10/wubi.exe
[14:08] <BluesKaj> seednode, you can boot directly into the wubi/ubuntu file , but it's still running inside windows , not on top., if you want to run windows and ubuntu , dual booting is the best method
[14:08] <seednode> So, explain again
[14:08] <seednode> If it's running INSIDE Windows
[14:08] <seednode> Doesn't the mean Windows must also run?
[14:09] <seednode> Your terminology here is ambiguous
[14:09] <ikonia> seednode: it's running within the windows file system
[14:09] <ikonia> seednode: nothing else
[14:09] <ThinkT510> seednode: what he means is that the file is located on the windows partition
[14:09] <seednode> Ah, that makes more sense
[14:09] <Pici> seednode: it can make changing the boot paramaters tough, and upgrading can be painful as well.
[14:09] <seednode> Can you not, then, create an ext4 filesystem on a second hard drive?
[14:09] <ikonia> seednode: you certainly can
[14:09] <seednode> And mount that as /home?
[14:09] <ikonia> seednode: you can do whatever you want
[14:09] <seednode> Just making sure
[14:10] <seednode> He was kinda making it sound like you were limited to NTFS
[14:10] <ikonia> seednode: it doesn't run on NTFS
[14:10] <Pici> seednode: Its not actually NTFS, its a disk image in a file.
[14:10] <ikonia> it runs on a file system stored within a file on an NTFS partition
[14:10] <seednode> Ah, so it's kinda like a Virtual machine, then?
[14:10] <ikonia> no
[14:10] <seednode> Except without Windows in the background?
[14:10] <ikonia> no
[14:10] <seednode> If it's not a true boot
[14:10] <ikonia> it's nothing like a virtual machine
[14:10] <seednode> Nor emulation
[14:10] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <ikonia> it is true boot
[14:10] <seednode> And it requires Windows
[14:10] <seednode> Huh...
[14:11] <seednode> wonder why I wasn't quieted
[14:11] <seednode> Floodbot loves me
[14:11] <BluesKaj> !wubi | seednode
[14:11] <ThinkT510> a vm will always be safer than wubi
[14:11] <blez> why it's not a full install? what's the difference?
[14:11] <JerusalemT> SCHWEET! Thanks guys. I found my data. Can someone point me to a faq about automounting them when I boot?
[14:12] <seednode> JerusalemT, just look up fstab automounts
[14:12] <ThinkT510> !fstab | JerusalemT
[14:12] <JerusalemT> muchos gracious guys
[14:13] <blez> PatrickDickey the thing is, that I'm having a tablet/laptop with Intel Atom, it has Windows 8, but I want to dual boot ubuntu. I just got a new minisd card and I'm trying wubi
[14:13] <seednode> I'm curious; if wubi is that unsafe AND convoluted, why does Canonical distribute it?
[14:13] <seednode> Seems like a bad idea.
[14:13] <blez> the thing is that the tablet has UEFI, and it doesn't see my bootable usb drive
[14:14] <ikonia> seednode: it's not "unsafe"
[14:14] <cfhowlett> seednode, wubi is for testing.  used as it's intended, it's great
[14:14] <ikonia> seednode: it is restricted a little more than a normal install
[14:14] <k1l> seednode: its for testing purposes. to let the windows user see what its about
[14:14] <seednode> You said it's less safe than using it in a VM
[14:14] <ikonia> seednode: it's only unsafe if people use it incorrectly
[14:14] <ikonia> seednode: yes, less safe is not the same as "unsafe"
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> blez: That's because Microsoft conviced (ok, demanded) that tablet makers lock their UEFI boots down.
[14:14] <ikonia> personally - I don't find it safe, because so many users break their systems by not researching what they are doing
[14:14] <blez> what's why I'm trying minisd now, but one guy told me that ubuntu's installer don't see the GPT partitions
[14:14] <ikonia> but that is a user problem, not a product problem
[14:14] <blez> and scews them up
[14:15] <ikonia> blez: ubuntu is fine with gpt
[14:15] <blez> .......
[14:15] <blez> YES, that's what just happened.
[14:16] <apsassin> hello all, i was hoping somebody could help me with my display scaling over HDMI.I am running ubuntu 12.10 and I have installed amd drivers but find no options in CCC. does any body have any help  they could offer?
[14:16] <jluc> 'o
[14:17] <blez> good that win8 fixes it
[14:17] <blez> damn wubi
[14:17] <jluc> Using nautilus in Unity, i copied all content of a folder, then i deleted the folder. I cannot paste copied content anymore. Content is lost. Is there some way to recover it ?
[14:17] <ikonia> jluc: it's done
[14:17] <ikonia> gone
[14:18] <ikonia> check your recycle bin
[14:18] <jluc> empty
[14:18] <ikonia> you've deleted the thing you where copying....
[14:18] <jluc> that's a shame !
[14:18] <ikonia> how can you paste it
[14:18] <jluc> it should be somewhere, in dustbin...
[14:18] <jluc> but its not.
[14:19] <JerusalemT> am i still online?
[14:19] <ikonia> yes
[14:19] <JerusalemT> wierd
[14:20] <apsassin> can anybody point me in the direction to get some information on display scaling with amd drivers in Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> blez, if you want to partition a drive for installing ubuntu with W8 and uefi on it , check this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-uefi-supported-windows-8-system
[14:20] <diamonds> sequoia
[14:20] <diamonds> hi
[14:23] <njd001> !ntfsclone
[14:23] <njd001> aww
[14:23] <apsassin> can anybody point me in the direction to get some information on display scaling with amd drivers in Ubuntu 12.10?
[14:23] <ThinkT510> !brain | njd001
[14:24] <njd001> ThinkT510 thank you!
[14:24] <njd001> i am looking to do an ntfsclone of my Thinkpad T430
[14:24] <njd001> thought i would try here first.
[14:24] <Pici> apsassin: Its somehere in the CCC, I always struggle to find it on my computer too.  I don't have graphical access to that machine right now though, so I can't really help.
[14:25] <njd001> my plan is to use native virtualization in ubuntu and clone my current SSD to a file
[14:26] <MEGASHAREUPLOAD> 50gb free for your files: megashareupload . com
[14:26] <apsassin> Pici, i have read that it should be in CCC>display manager>DTV>Scaling but i dont see DTV or scaling anywhere.
[14:26] <njd001> ThinkT510 one stupid user question when i plug in a usb disk (2 TB) is there a way to get ubuntu to discover  this or does it do this by itself.
[14:26] <histo> njd001: why not jsut image to a file and then mount that file as the drive in virtualization software
[14:26] <Pici> apsassin: Are you running it with gksudo?
[14:27] <histo> njd001: does it by itself
[14:27] <njd001> thats the plan histo :)
[14:27] <apsassin> thanks for acknowledging anyway. i will go back to google.
[14:27] <apsassin> yes i am
[14:27] <njd001> but i want ubuntu to use the 180 GB SSD for a boot device
[14:27] <phillip> ubuntu
[14:27] <histo> njd001: dd if=/dev/devicename of=/path/to/file.image
[14:27] <njd001> histo oh nice DD
[14:27] <njd001> will DD do this if the disk is protected by bitlocker?
[14:27] <apsassin> though i am in GUI
[14:28] <apsassin> as administrator
[14:28] <njd001> will it just capture it as a gian binary file or should i decrypt it first?
[14:28] <histo> njd001: no you'd have to unencrypt it
[14:28] <njd001> Giant*
[14:28] <histo> njd001: or decrypt
[14:28] <njd001> histo sounds good :D
[14:28] <histo> njd001: otherwise you'd just image a bunch of encrypted data.
[14:29] <njd001> has been a M$FT winnie for the last 20 years and windows 8/2012 is disappointing so i am very excited to get started with ubuntu.
[14:29] <njd001> but alias i still need a windows image for other things. :(
[14:29] <histo> njd001: be very carefull with the dd command. You can wipe a drive with a typo
[14:29] <apsassin> Thanks for your time Pici
[14:29] <ThinkT510> njd001: a vm is a great practice gound
[14:30] <njd001> histo thats why i have the finest people in the industry here in #ubuntu with me :)
[14:30] <njd001> ThinkT510 i would concur but I am working on openstack at cisco I want much more exposure in my daily life.... I learn by doing not so much reading :)
[14:30] <histo> njd001: i've booted a local disk in a virtual machine liek you are trying a long time ago. I don't remember all the tricks to getting windows to be happy doing it. I know 7 was easier to deal with than older versions of windows.  Something with the registry etc...
[14:31] <dhanasekaran> Hi guys How to update crontab with shell script
[14:31] <njd001> so if i have it everyday at work and on my laptop it means i will learn more by exposure.
[14:31] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: you don't update cron with a shell script
[14:31] <ThinkT510> !uefi | njd001
[14:31] <dhanasekaran> ikonia: any non interactive way add crontab entry
[14:31] <njd001> histo i have the my corporate ISO for backup since the laptop is new theres no data on it .... yet.
[14:32] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: sure, crontab $new_crontab_file
[14:32] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: but I don't see why you would do that
[14:32] <histo> dhanasekaran: have the script edit the /var/spool/cron/crontabs/  files
[14:32] <njd001> I just prefer to backup the source just in case i need it before i wipe it
[14:32] <ThinkT510> njd001: backups are always prudent
[14:33]  * njd001 spent 10+ years in storage you gotta a storage / nas/san question i can field it. :)
[14:33] <hany> eny one can help me?
[14:33] <ThinkT510> hany: only after you tell us the issue
[14:33] <hany> i need opengl for uuntu
[14:34] <dhanasekaran> histo: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/sysops my user id sysops, 01 01 * * * /home/sysops/sarexecute.sh it's not started
[14:34] <histo> hany: what type of video card do you have?
[14:34] <histo> dhanasekaran: what?
[14:34] <njd001> ThinkT510 histo y'all will be happy to know I am building an 8 B250 Blade system with 10 TB for openstack on san boot....but when it comes to personal computing I am a little green. :)
[14:35] <ThinkT510> njd001: #ubuntu is here to answer any questions you have regarding ubuntu
[14:35] <njd001> exactly.
[14:35] <dhanasekaran>  /var/spool/cron/crontabs/sysops  sysops is the my system user, added cron  entry to  01 01 * * * /home/sysops/sarexecute.sh
[14:35] <njd001> Desktop is not my forte :)
[14:35] <dhanasekaran> not properly work my cron entry
[14:36] <njd001> histo what was the dd syntax again
[14:36] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: just put the crontab in a file and run "crontab $new_cron_file" and it will replace your old crontab
[14:36] <\\Mr_C\\> is there a way to cycle through the video modes once its in the desktop manager with a key combination?
[14:36] <njd001> if=source of=path/filename.image
[14:36] <dhanasekaran> ikonia: /var/spool/cron/crontabs/sysops  sysops is the my system user, added cron  entry to  01 01 * * * /home/sysops/sarexecute.sh crontab not properly work
[14:36] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: please re-read what I just said
[14:37] <histo> dhanasekaran: id fyou man cron it says not to edit those files directly although I'm not sure why.
[14:37] <ikonia> dhanasekaran: that' snot what I said to do
[14:37]  * njd001 scrolls back
[14:37] <histo> dhanasekaran: I like ikonia's solution better
[14:38] <njd001> hey another dumb question with respect to the ubuntu install
[14:38] <njd001> when you have a platform with 2 video devices does it get messy with a vm?
[14:38] <ikonia> no
[14:38] <ikonia> the virtual machines use a virtual video device
[14:39] <njd001> oh pooh.
[14:39] <njd001> So I cannot allocate one video device to local and one to virtual?
[14:40] <ikonia> njd001: you can use PCI passthrough, but I suspect you'll strugle with that
[14:40] <njd001> ikonia i could also ping soren see how he does it i would imagine i am not the first person to want to do this or even try it
[14:40] <kesi> Hi guys, For some reason all of my active program tabs show up on every workspace although they aren't in that particular workspace. I can't find the setting to changethis.
[14:41] <ikonia> njd001: why do you need to ping someone else when I've ust told you how to do it
[14:41] <njd001> oh well you said i would struggle
[14:41] <ikonia> njd001: yes, I supect you would, but asking someone else won't change that, but you are of course welcome to do what you see best
[14:41]  * njd001 isnt fluent on desktop side im a server guy
[14:42] <ikonia> njd001: and yet you are struggling with "server" functions
[14:42] <njd001> no.
[14:42] <ikonia> oh, you seem to be
[14:42] <ikonia> my mistake
[14:42] <njd001> server side i just deal with deployments which is gui-less in my lab
[14:42] <ikonia> njd001: right, so you should be fine with this then
[14:42] <ikonia> as it's configuring a virtual machine
[14:43]  * njd001 is still learning...
[14:43] <ikonia> which is totally managment by the command line
[14:43] <vms> list
[14:43]  * njd001 has a feeling he will need to invest in some patience to make this work as well.
[14:44]  * ikonia has a feeling he should stop trying to justify not being able to do things and stop using /me commands
[14:44] <njd001> point noted.
[14:46] <kesi> I'm registered but showing up on ubuntu-unregged. Can anybody see me?
[14:46] <ikonia> yes
[14:46] <ThinkT510> kesi: indeed
[14:46] <Pici> kesi: this isn't #ubuntu-ungregged
[14:47] <putrowengi> helo
[14:47] <kesi> Ah, okay. The title bar in xchat says it is
[14:47] <kesi> Does anybody know why all of my program tabs are showing up in the taskbar from all of my workspaces? This didn't use to happen.
[14:48] <kesi> 12.04 Gnome2
[14:48] <BEARS|DiscoverY> any french ?
[14:48] <BEARS|DiscoverY> any french ?
[14:48] <ikonia> !Fr | BEARS|DiscoverY
[14:48] <ThinkT510> kesi: gnome2 isn't available in 12.04
[14:49] <kesi> ThinkT510, ack, you're right. I'm not on Unity though.
[14:49] <Eacos> French in channel,
[14:49] <Eacos> ?
[14:49] <crippa> hi. I have a file owned by user1.group1, permission -rw-r--r--. Its folder has permissions drwxrws--- and it's ownded by root.group1. I can list the file but I cannot copy it to my own folder. Why?
[14:49] <ThinkT510> Eacos: #ubuntu-fr
[14:49] <k1l> kesi: when you are on the gnome-fallback (that looks like gnome2) be aware tat is not a full functioning gnome2
[14:52] <apsassin> hello all. I am trying to fix Scaling through HDMI with AMD CCC but under display manager where there should be DTV settings I only have projector.
[14:52] <kesi> kll, okay. Is there any way to fix this though?
[14:52] <crippa> anyone?
[14:52] <apsassin> hoping somebody might have a solution
[14:52] <Pici> crippa: What error do you get when you try to copy it?
[14:53] <ThinkT510> kesi: we need to know what you are using before we can help
[14:53] <AppleJuice_> crippa, I dont know why it fails. Have you tried copying it with sudo?
[14:53] <ThinkT510> !screenshot | kesi
[14:53] <apsassin> might have to remove purge  drivers and reinstall?
[14:53] <apsassin> or am i overlooking something simple?
[14:55] <AppleJuice_> apsassin, In my case I needed to download the kernel heads to make sure the video driver from AMD was installed correctly.
[14:55] <AppleJuice_> headers*
[14:57] <pranavk> I customized my sources.list file and changed the domain name to my custom mirror.Note that it now included quantal-updates, quantal-security , quantal-backports also in addition to just quantal.
[14:57] <pranavk> But I am still getting some error while downloading some files
[14:57] <pranavk> packages and updates are working fine but some softwaeres from my software update GUI are saying that no internet connetion found
[14:58] <pranavk> is there something that needs to be done in the mirror so that I can download security and backports thing also from this same mirror ?
[15:00] <phschwartz> Is it standard on 12.04+ to use dnsmaq to create the local dns resolver?
[15:01] <apsassin> Apple
[15:02] <apsassin> applejuice, i installed all header its the GUI for CCC that is missing the DTV function
[15:06] <doomlord> is there an option to make unity's global menu *permanently visible*
[15:06] <doomlord> (with truncated window title)
[15:06] <BluesKaj> phschwartz, only if you install dnsmasq and configure the file for namservers ..otherwise it's not installed by default
[15:09] <dhanasekaran> Hi Gays sar -A 11 [-A means getting all report and  1  1 ? what]
[15:09] <dhanasekaran> sar -A 11 [-A means getting all report and  1  1 ? what]
[15:11] <phschwartz> blueskaj: Must have been the install of openstack for a local setup that might have done it.
[15:15] <Pici> dhanasekaran: I don't understand your question. Are you asking what the 11 means in that command?
[15:19] <dhanasekaran> Pici: sar -A 1 1 [-A all details 1 1 second args? third args?]
[15:20] <Pici> dhanasekaran: As the manpage says, the first and second number would be for interval and count, repectively.
[15:21] <dhanasekaran> Pici: it's a one interval and count means what?
[15:21] <dhanasekaran> Pici: one minute interval  one count right?
[15:22] <Pici> dhanasekaran: interval is how long to run the cumulative statistics across (in seconds), and count is how many times to run it.
[15:22] <gisli> oh lord! who on earth decided that the usb disk creator in ubuntu could only make ubuntu-bootable usb-sticks???
[15:22] <Orkultus> gisli: use unetbootin
[15:22] <dhanasekaran> Pici: thanks i underand
[15:23] <gisli> Orkultus: yeah I did. But this is just so stupid and somehow ms/apple-like
[15:23] <dhanasekaran> Pici: Thanks i understand sorry for typo..
[15:23] <Pici> dhanasekaran: np
[15:23] <gisli> make it hard for people to switch from their system
[15:23] <Orkultus> gisli: it's usually there to help with recovery and such
[15:24] <Pici> gisli: There are other tools available for that.
[15:24] <Arunav> Where  are the configuration files for tftp located?
[15:24] <Orkultus> Pici: if you are making a thumbstick with a Windows OS, you should check out winusb
[15:24] <ncsquid22> Arunav: try this: locate tftp | more
[15:24] <Arunav> Thank you very much, ncsquid22
[15:24] <Arunav> I'll try that one out.
[15:25] <Arunav> ncsquid22: thank u problem is dsolved
[15:26] <ncsquid22> Arunav: awesome...
[15:26] <Orkultus> oh the joys of Linux
[15:32] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to test network speed over a long period?  My ISP thinks I have nothing better to do than call them and use speakeasy, which is especially frustrating when the network is not consistently slow.
[15:33] <nibbler> craigbass1976: set up some monitoring ( i recommend zabbix) and have pings running as well as latency tests of webpages and possible downloads from some hosts once in a while
[15:34] <nibbler> craigbass1976: but thats not just easy, thats some work to do
[15:34] <craigbass1976> nibbler, but if it's ascript I can write and have running for a couple days, I'd be happy.
[15:34] <gisli> Pici: what other tools? Unetbootin seems to be failing because of some need for p7zip
[15:35] <hagzag> hi
[15:35] <ncsquid22> craigbass1976: I dont know why you want to that but check iperf out
[15:35] <macswell> My laptop (running 12.04 x64) freezes/hardlocks after 1-2 seconds after unplugging AC power. How might I go about troubleshooting this? (googling for tips has me all over the place and nothing has worked so I am trying to figure out troubleshooting steps rather than just trying this and that)
[15:35] <hagzag> bashing my head with nvidia on ubuntu 12.10
[15:35] <hagzag> lspci shows this
[15:35] <hagzag> lspci | grep VGA
[15:35] <hagzag> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF106GLM [Quadro 2000M] (rev a1)
[15:36] <hagzag> can anyone help out here ?
[15:36] <ncsquid22> craigbass1976: iperf will allow you to perform bandwidth measurements and you can even configure the interval between the bandwidth test
[15:37] <nibbler> ncsquid22: if you have a host to measure against....
[15:37] <ThinkT510> hagzag: lsmod will show what drivers are loaded
[15:37] <ncsquid22> nibbler: of course you will need a server and a client....
[15:38] <hagzag> lsmod | grep nvidia comes up with nothing
[15:38] <hagzag> lsmod | grep video
[15:38] <hagzag> uvcvideo               80848  0
[15:38] <hagzag> videobuf2_core         35881  1 uvcvideo
[15:38] <hagzag> videodev              125118  2 uvcvideo,videobuf2_core
[15:38] <hagzag> videobuf2_vmalloc      12861  1 uvcvideo
[15:38] <FloodBot1> hagzag: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <hagzag> videobuf2_memops       13405  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
[15:38] <ncsquid22> nibbler: there are other tools like wget...curl and stuff but they require you understand some basic command line switches and stuff
[15:39] <ozpy> Hi. I updated Ubuntu 12.10, restarted the system and now... No unity is working. I tried ALT+CTRL F2 > Unity --reset but it does not work
[15:40] <iradic> Hello!
[15:41] <ozpy> Hi. I updated Ubuntu 12.10, restarted the system and now... No unity is working. I tried ALT+CTRL F2 > Unity --reset but it does not work
[15:42] <iradic> Has anyone experienced frequent crashes in evolution-calendar library?
[15:42] <hagzag> my nvidia issues are @: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1563377/
[15:42] <macswell> My laptop (running 12.04 x64) freezes/hardlocks after 1-2 seconds after unplugging AC power. How might I go about troubleshooting this?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> macswell  system settings, power
[15:43] <hagzag> #nvidia
[15:44] <macswell> @monkeyDust what am I looking for there, I see standard power settings...
[15:44] <usr13> ozpy: What does the screen look like?  (Can you describe it?)
[15:44] <craigbass1976> ncsquid22, the host/client...  I was worried about that, and hoping I could just ping my ISP's dns server or something.  With host/client they're going to say "Oh, it's the other machine's ISP that's slow"
[15:45] <Orkultus> hagzag: did you install drivers from xswat ppa?
[15:45] <hagzag> ive been doing all sorts of stuff il will take alook again @ xswat ppa
[15:46] <macswell> MonkeyDust: what am I looking for there, I see standard power settings...
[15:46] <Orkultus> hagzag: very easy to do..after adding the ppa, just type in sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:46]  * scullen 
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> macswell  it's odd, i don't even find anything in brightness and lock
[15:47] <usr13> hagzag: lsmod |grep nouv
[15:48] <hagzag> returnes nothing
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> macswell  is this page useful? it has no solution, but at least some hints http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480901
[15:48] <usr13> hagzag: Hummmm...  You should be running nouveau
[15:48] <hagzag> tried
[15:49] <usr13> hagzag: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log  #Send us resulting URL
[15:50] <macswell> MonkeyDust: not quite, its a slightly different issue. I was actually looking for troubleshooting methodology. Which logs to crawl through, or command line tools might clue me in as to what is happening... any advice on that front?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> macswell  none, repeat your question ever 10 minutes or so, in 1 line, and hope someone comes up with new ideas or suggestions
[15:51] <hagzag> Its long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1563402/
[15:52] <macswell> MonkeyDust: Thanks, I appreciate the help! I think the link in the post on acpid might actually help a bit... if nothing else I'll learn something new =)
[15:52] <usr13> read from bottom up...
[15:52] <hagzag> usr13: im rebooting after installing the current ill BRB
[15:53] <usr13> hummm.... what is "current ill" ?
[15:54] <usr13> anyone know what ^^ that means?
[15:54] <Pici> usr13: installing the current.  I'll BRB.
[15:55] <usr13> Pici: Ok, then what is "the current"?
[15:55] <Pici> usr13: The current version? I dunno.
[15:56] <hagzag> usr13: smae place after x/swat
[15:56] <usr13> hagzag: What?
[15:56] <usr13> hagzag: At any rate, from looking at the log file, we see that you are running vesa
[15:56] <hagzag> install nvidia-current from x/swat ppa and I am still on some fallbak display
[15:57] <njd001> ha!
[15:57] <usr13> hagzag: ok good.  So how did that work out?
[15:57] <njd001> I love that name Error404NotFound
[15:57] <hagzag> exactly which is fallbak right
[15:57] <Error404NotFound> njd001: Thanks
[15:57] <edgy> Hi, I see hunspell-?? packages files are symlinked via myspell directory too, are there any apps that require this? isn't myspelll deprecated in favor of hunspell?
[15:58] <tobyjones8> Hello
[15:58] <usr13> hagzag: maybe you need to run nvidia-settings or nvidia-xconfig
[15:58] <usr13> hagzag: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #What does that say?
[15:58] <tobyjones8> Can anyone suggest any good places where I can learn C++ on the web please?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> tobyjones8 http://www.planet-source-code.com/vb/Tutorial/?lngWId=3
[15:59] <hagzag> done: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1563426/
[15:59] <macswell> tobyjones8: Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming -- on the right hand side a little way down they have recommended resources, tons of good stuff
[16:00] <tobyjones8> OK
[16:00] <usr13> tobyjones8: http://www.howtoforge.com/learning-c-cplusplus-step-by-step
[16:00] <tobyjones8> I've tried googling a lot of places. The code is syntactically correct, but I don't know how to apply it
[16:00] <tobyjones8> Thanks for the responses guys :)
[16:02] <usr13> hagzag: Ok, try it and see. (That file is written to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  Right?
[16:02] <duckx0r>  /j #postfix
[16:02] <usr13> hagzag: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:02] <tobyjones8> Are any of you people Android users?
[16:02] <usr13> yep
[16:02] <tobyjones8> I'm excited to see Ubuntu on Android.
[16:02] <usr13> tobyjones8: Tried it yet?
[16:02] <ThinkT510> !phone | tobyjones8
[16:02] <tobyjones8> Especially as I can install it on my Nexus 7, but I'll wait, for speed to be improved.
[16:03] <hagzag> try what reboot ?
[16:03] <usr13> hagzag: Or just restart X  Ctrl-Backspace
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> tobyjones8  maybe you can help improve it
[16:03] <tobyjones8> Tried the C tutorial or Ubuntu on Android?
[16:04] <Pici> !offtopic
[16:04] <tobyjones8> Maybe, monkeydust.
[16:04] <tobyjones8> I'll install it some day when I reinstall Ubuntu (HDD failed, and lost all my Ubuntu partition)
[16:05] <hagzag> just did now I have a screen which dosent fit my screen (move right /s lsft with my cursers shows me the remainign
[16:05] <tobyjones8> hagzag
[16:05] <tobyjones8> hold down the windows logo key
[16:05] <tobyjones8> move the scroll wheel down
[16:05] <tobyjones8> as if you were scrolling down
[16:05] <tobyjones8> You might have magnified your screen by accident.
[16:06] <hagzag> no thats not the case ...
[16:06] <xentity1x> Hi I have an nvidia quadro 2000m. When I try to switch to one of the tty screens all I get is a blank screen. Anyone know why?
[16:06] <tobyjones8> Oh, OK
[16:06] <tobyjones8> Are you using a CRT monitor, hagzag?
[16:06] <tobyjones8> Try lowering the screen resolution
[16:07] <hagzag> no its my laptops screen
[16:07] <tobyjones8> You might have set the screen resolution to higher than the panel can actually display, and it's scrolling about to compensate.
[16:07] <tobyjones8> Check your screen resolution.
[16:07] <hagzag> I have too options 800X600 and 800X600(4:3)
[16:08] <tobyjones8> Hm.
[16:08] <tobyjones8> Do you have the proper display drivers installed for your system?
[16:09] <hagzag> I thought I did I installed nvidia-current from x/swap ppa
[16:09] <hagzag> did I mentions its  12.10
[16:09] <xentity1x> hagzag, I pretty much installed nvidia-current.
[16:10] <hagzag> me too with no luck :(
[16:10] <xentity1x> hagzag, Does it give you the option to enable proprietary drivers in software sources?
[16:10] <ikonia> PPA....x-swat...the words that often mean doom
[16:11] <LoRez> how does one build linux-backports-modules-3.2.0-3.2.0 for something other than 3.2.0-23?
[16:11] <astropirate> hello,
[16:11] <tobyjones8> I don't really like Unity.
[16:11] <hagzag> who gives me ?
[16:11] <tobyjones8> Which makes me glad that 10.04 LTS is still supported until April.
[16:12] <k1l> !notunity | tobyjones8
[16:12] <astropirate> I am not able to log into my user account. when I try to log into my account, it takes me back to the log in screen. But i am able to log into the guest account. any help?
[16:12] <jrib> tobyjones8: what will you do in april?
[16:12] <escott> !gksudo | astropirate
[16:12] <jrib> astropirate: check ~/.xsession-errors for the user
[16:12] <k1l> tobyjones8: this is a support channel. if you dnt have an actual support issue please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chatting
[16:12] <escott> astropirate, you need to chown your XAuthority file back to yourself
[16:12] <tobyjones8> Upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu, and install gnome-shell
[16:13] <tobyjones8> Performance is slow on my antique laptop though so I don't really want to upgrade
[16:13] <astropirate> hmmm
[16:13] <tobyjones8> damn you, ATI drivers
[16:13] <hagzag> astropirate: drop to root shell and take a look at: ~/.xsession-errors
[16:13] <escott> astropirate, so ctrl-alt-f1; login. sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority; exit; ctrl-alt-f7
[16:15] <astropirate> hagzag, escott, it says :  Error: error found in add-in  /usr/lib/g
[16:15] <xentity1x> Hi I have an nvidia quadro 2000m. When I try to switch to one of the tty screens all I get is a blank screen. Anyone know why?
[16:16] <hagzag> if you <alt><ctrl>F1 can you login
[16:16] <hagzag> ?
[16:17] <hagzag> astropirate: you can't login in graphical mode so try logging in from <alt><ctrl>F1/F2...
[16:17] <astropirate> hagzag, thats where it gives the error
[16:17] <astropirate> it is in the log file
[16:18] <astropirate> for the actual user
[16:18] <hagzag> so that preventing X to login
[16:18] <astropirate> i think so
[16:18] <astropirate> do you know what it means?
[16:18] <hagzag> I had the same issue th eother day whilst editing one of my RC files
[16:18] <astropirate> i havent touched anything
[16:19] <hagzag> and no I dont see th entire log you can use; http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:19] <astropirate> this is soo retarded. on the day of work deadline it takes a giant shit on my head
[16:19] <ikonia> astropirate: please drop the language an attitude
[16:19] <astropirate> hagzag, how do i put the log file there fromt he commandline?
[16:20] <hagzag> right well you could email it to youeself and on a different computer paste it ...
[16:20] <ikonia> !pastebinit | astropirate
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> astropirate  cat [logfile]|pastebinit
[16:22] <xentity1x> hagzag, I get the ctrl+alt f7 gui to work fine, but the other tty shells are black
[16:22] <tobyjones8> ugh, brb.
[16:22] <tobyjones8> kids are throwing snowballs at my windows
[16:22] <hagzag> hmm, not sure what could cause that ...
[16:22] <Beast> hi all
[16:23] <astropirate> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1563490/   hagzag
[16:24] <jrib> astropirate: "Home directory /home/mansoor not ours"
[16:24] <ikonia> astropirate: looks like you've tried to put a lot of compiz projects in
[16:24] <astropirate> what does that mean?
[16:24] <astropirate> i haven't touched or configured anything in months
[16:24] <hagzag> astropirate: not sure ...
[16:25] <jrib> astropirate: what's the output of « ls -ld /home/mansoor »?
[16:25] <astropirate> ohh
[16:25] <jrib> "ohh" :)
[16:25] <scotty^> mode scotty^ -i
[16:25] <astropirate> I have Unity and Xmonad running together
[16:25] <astropirate> maybe that cased it?
[16:25] <scotty^> oops
[16:26] <astropirate> but it has been running like that for months and months
[16:26] <astropirate> just fine
[16:26] <jrib> astropirate: it's also trying to load things from /root which seems strange.
[16:26] <astropirate> I cant log into the other DMs either
[16:26] <Beast> say, lately I've been having artifacts, large areas of my screen not refreshing and displaying what ever was previouly rendered as if frozen despite changing the content in the area. Might this be a video card problem?
[16:27] <ikonia> looks like you've been messing around as root
[16:27] <ikonia> and permissions / locations have got messed up
[16:27] <ozpy> usr13: Sorry about the delay. There's no unity working. Just a purple background
[16:27] <compdoc> Beast, bad memory on the vid card can cause artifacts.
[16:27] <bipul> I am looking some ubuntu tuts for writing code in C for Packet capturing through libpcap
[16:27] <Beast> I've noticed it happens when leafpad runs and disappears as soon as I close it
[16:27] <astropirate> ikonia, banshee is sound right? can I disable it?
[16:28] <ikonia> astropirate: create a new user and see if you can login as that user
[16:28] <astropirate> I just need to get this work done
[16:28] <astropirate> ok
[16:28] <compdoc> Beast, does the card have a fan? is the fan running? is the heatsink under the fan clogged with dust?
[16:28] <Beast> compdoc: regardless of it happening only when leafpad runs?
[16:28] <ikonia> astropirate: don't worry about banshee
[16:28] <Pici> astropirate: Did you recently add a new icon to docky?
[16:28] <kimsia> hi there,i have a problem installing pecl extension for perl
[16:28] <kimsia> http://askubuntu.com/q/245996/10591
[16:28] <astropirate> Pici, nope, dont use docky
[16:29] <Beast> compdoc: I haven't opened up the laptop but it is running on one fan, the other one failed on my a while ago.
[16:29] <kimsia> any advice?
[16:29] <astropirate> i have literally done no configuration at all with this computer
[16:29]  * Mi` is away: Stripping and stuff
[16:29] <ikonia> kimsia: the download is valid
[16:29] <Pici> astropirate: gnome-do?
[16:29] <ikonia> !away > Mi`
[16:29] <astropirate> Pici, nope
[16:29] <ikonia> kimsia: sorry, the download is invalid
[16:29] <compdoc> Beast, oh, a laptop. that makes it harder to check that stuff
[16:29] <kimsia> what do you mean?
[16:29] <Mi`> lol
[16:29] <Pici> astropirate: you could try deleting/backing up ~/.local/share/gnome-do and then trying again.
[16:29] <kimsia> ikonia: meaning t o say what should I do?
[16:29] <ikonia> kimsia: look at the error " Download of "pecl/perl" succeeded, but it is not a valid package archive"
[16:30] <compdoc> Beast, Ive seen problems with the ribbon cable that connects the display in laptops
[16:30] <ikonia> kimsia: also why ar eyou telling us your PHP version, when you are trying to download perl.....not php
[16:30] <kimsia> ikonia: how do i determine what is a valid package archive?
[16:30] <ikonia> kimsia: it it is valid, it contains all the files etc
[16:30] <kimsia> I found the instructions on how to download and install the perl pecl extension so that I can call Perl scripts from PHP
[16:30] <ikonia> kimsia: basically using pecl is a bad idea in my view
[16:30] <Beast> compdoc: I might think of having it cleaned. Yes, a laptop, it's a macbook pro. I've angled it, made a cooling stand using an ikea towel hanger and taken out the battery so as to compensate for being one fan down.
[16:30] <ikonia> there are perl-php modules alreedy in the ubuntu repo
[16:31]  * Mi` is back (gone 00:01:50)
[16:31]  * Mi` is away: 
[16:31] <ikonia> Mi`: can you please turn that off
[16:31] <Mi`> Okay
[16:31] <kimsia> ikonia: http://stackoverflow.com/a/5879984/80353
[16:31] <ikonia> kimsia: I don't need to see that
[16:31] <Beast> compdoc: interesting, as to the ribbon as I suspect there is a problem with that here as my screen stopped working a few months ago. I use an external monitor now, forced to.
[16:32] <astropirate> brb trying to log in again
[16:32] <compdoc> Beast, heh. Maybe time for a new laptop?
[16:32] <ESPARTANO> hello guys
[16:32] <kimsia> ikonia: sorry. I am forced to use that because a particular Perl module has the functions i needed that no PHP library provides
[16:33] <ikonia> kimsia:  I disagree, there is a php->perl module availablve inthe ubuntu repos
[16:33] <ikonia> kimsia: but that's up to you, but I strongly advise you not to use pecl - but it's up to you
[16:33] <Beast> compdoc: I also had my power cut off, and I'm not running a surge protector, although th contractor said there should be no problem as he didn't turn the power on, so no surge. Could this be related.
[16:33] <mansoor-s> woohoo!!
[16:33] <mansoor-s> it worked
[16:33] <Beast> ?
[16:33] <mansoor-s> who told me to delete the  gnome-do directory?
[16:34] <mansoor-s> thank you all for help!!
[16:34] <compdoc> Beast, surges are an problem. Just losing power tends not to be a problem, but occasionally it can corrupt files.
[16:34] <belgianguy> hello
[16:34] <Pici> mansoor-s: I did. you're welcome.
[16:34] <belgianguy> if one was interested in the Ubuntu project, where would one start?
[16:34] <belgianguy> (as in contributing)
[16:34] <kesi> Okay, I'm back with new problems! I installed Ubuntu 12.04 in a kvm. I then installed Unity but I'm unable to use it. I can remove it and install/use Gnome but I'd rather have the full functionality. The error is: WARNING: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0 unity-panel-service:no process found compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :0. I realize this could be a virtualization problem but thought I'd ask since I'm able to run gnome without a p
[16:34] <kesi> roblem
[16:34] <ikonia> !contribute | belgianguy
[16:34] <ESPARTANO> i have ubuntu 12.10
[16:35] <belgianguy> ahh, thanks ikonia :)
[16:35] <k1l> belgianguy: depends on your skills. there are contributing pages in the wiki on ubuntu.com
[16:35] <ESPARTANO> a live en spain
[16:35] <ESPARTANO> i live in spain
[16:35] <belgianguy> k1l: any skills I should surely have mastered?
[16:36] <ikonia> belgianguy: read the pages and see where you can fit in
[16:36] <belgianguy> ikonia: will do, they seem nicely structured, and will explain it better than asking superfluous questions here
[16:36] <Beast> compdoc: Yeah, I got a hand me down toshiba on sight. It runs a little too hot, and will have to do a bios update (for the fan/heat issues) without windows installed, a challenge in of itself. Heck, I might just install windows to do the bios update. We'll see assoon as I can get my hands on it permanently.
[16:37] <kimsia> ikonia: thank you
[16:37] <ESPARTANO> Is there any channel that is Spanish?
[16:37] <Pici> !es | ESPARTANO
[16:38] <BluesKaj> ok , bbl..stuff to do
[16:38] <len> Hi all
[16:38] <kesi> Anybody want to help with Unity install issue?
[16:38] <kimsia> ikonia: where can i find this php->perl module that you speak of?
[16:38] <ikonia> kimsia: in the ubuntu repos
[16:38] <lenlen> I need to open gnome-terminal inside chroot environment
[16:39] <Pici> ikonia: whats the package name, I couldn't find it myself.
[16:39] <lenlen>  when I try to launch "gnome-terminal" the window is blank
[16:39] <ikonia> I'm sure there is on in there hang on, I've not got an ubuntu machine here to check
[16:39] <lenlen> could somebody help me, please?
[16:39] <kimsia> ikonia: i tried this search http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=php+perl&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[16:39] <kimsia> did not find what I was looking for
[16:42] <kesi> Need help installing unity from the command line on 12.04
[16:42] <ikonia> kimsia: can't see anything specific, I'm still looking though
[16:43] <kimsia> ikonia: thank you i too am also searching
[16:43] <kesi> Am I visible?
[16:43] <ikonia> kimsia: you can also use the php "file" option to run external files, such as perl cgi scripts
[16:43] <Beast> compdoc: thanks for the advice and feedback
[16:43] <kimsia> ikonia: let me give that a shot
[16:44] <kimsia> ikonia: I see. I needed to execute the perl scripts programatically inside a PHP file
[16:45] <kimsia> ikonia: not really using the php command line though
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin> is it safe to install Java7 from the official rpm package using alien?
[16:45] <kesi> Can you install unity on top of gnome?
[16:45] <ikonia> kimsia: there is a php function (I'm sure the guys in ##php can give you the proper syntax) that is something like file ('/home/user/create-stats.pl')
[16:45] <ovidiu-florin> I don't have openjdk installed, and I'd preffer not to install it
[16:45] <ikonia> kimsia: it will allow you to call perl files like that,
[16:46] <xangua> kesi: unity is a shell for gnome
[16:46] <ikonia> kimsia: there is also a way you can hook it into the cgi directory
[16:46] <ikonia> kimsia: I don't know the syntax as I'm not really a php user, but the guys in ##php should be able to correct me
[16:46] <ThinkT510> !alien | ovidiu-florin
[16:46] <kesi> xangua, I have 12.04 on the command line and I can install gnome and run it but I can't install unity
[16:46] <kimsia> ikonia: got it. i will go check
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[16:47] <kesi> xangua, can I install Gnome and then upgrade to Unity somehow?
[16:47] <Pici> kesi: What happens when you try to install Unity?
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin> then what is the ubuntu way of installing Java7? (not open JDK)
[16:47] <kesi> Pici, errors about the display :0
[16:47] <k1l> kesi: you tried to install the "ubuntu-desktop" package?
[16:47] <ThinkT510> !java | ovidiu-florin
[16:48] <Pici> kesi: When you *install* it? or when you use it?
[16:48] <kesi> kll, that's what I selected during install
[16:48] <mkultra> ubuntus way of installing java is apt-get, try synaptic searching for java
[16:48] <kesi> Pici, after install when I try to run it
[16:48] <sgtkilljoy> mkultra: well apt........
[16:49] <kesi> Pici, no errors during install 'sudo apt-get install unity'
[16:50] <Pici> kesi: you had said that you were getting errors on install.
[16:50] <k1l> kesi: what errors do you get?
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> thank you ThinkT510
[16:50] <kesi> Pici, kll, when I try to run unity after install I get: WARNING: no DISPLAY variable set, setting it to :0
[16:50] <ThinkT510> ovidiu-florin: no worries
[16:51] <Pici> kesi: Where are you trying to start it from?
[16:51] <kesi> Pici, kll, then unity-panel-service no process found
[16:51] <kesi> Pici, command line after install
[16:51] <k1l> kesi: i assume you are using startx or something?
[16:51] <Pici> kesi: you should be starting it from your login manager (lightdm by default)
[16:51] <kesi> kll, I don't know what that is. This is a virtual machine with Ubuntu precise 12.04
[16:51] <k1l> kesi: keep in mind to give as much info as you can: we dont see what you see
[16:52] <username_> hello
[16:52] <k1l> kesi: do a "sudo start lightdm" or replace start with restart
[16:52] <kesi> kll, gotcha
[16:53] <kesi> kll, unknown job: lightdm
[16:53] <kesi> kll, installing that now
[16:54] <k1l> kesi: the ubuntu-desktop package should have installed that, iirc
[16:54] <kesi> kll, it doesn't seem to have. Even tried through tasksel
[16:54] <kesi> kll, so, I started lightdm
[16:55] <k1l> choose your user account and the ubuntu session in there
[16:56] <subdesign> what do you think can I cancel Brasero image checksum after burning an image?
[16:57] <kesi> kll, it's not liking my password even though I know it's right. Going to try to start over
[16:57] <kesi> kll, or, rather, reboot
[16:58] <k1l> kesi: make sure its not the root account you try to login. and keep things like shift or different keyboard layouts in mind
[16:58] <kesi> kll, it's got my full name instead of username. I do have a caps in my password.. is there something I have to do to get the shift to work?
[16:59] <pyro254750> anybody have a recomendation for .nzb client
[17:00] <sgtkilljoy> pyro254750: sabnzbd+
[17:00] <kesi> kll, reboot took me right back here
[17:00] <kesi> kll, can't log in although it seems to try to go to a screen adn then return
[17:00] <pyro254750> thanks sgtkilljoy
[17:01] <kesi> kll, Guest session doesn't work either
[17:01] <k1l> kesi: take a look into the .xsession-errors in the home of the user. there should be logged if the xserver got a problem
[17:03] <ag4913_> i am looking for help installing ubuntu
[17:03] <ag4913_> can someone please help me a bit
[17:03] <sgtkilljoy> ag4913: wats the prob?
[17:03] <pyro254750> what issue are you having ag4913
[17:04] <ag4913> I've tried installing with the windows installer
[17:04] <ag4913> it rebooted, i had to choose ubuntu instead of windows
[17:04] <ag4913> and then it started to count down from 5 saying that it would complete the installation
[17:05] <macswell> My laptop hardlocks when switching from ac-power to battery. This does not happen if I put it into suspend first (or use Windows). I currently have 12.04 x64 installed, how might I go about troubleshooting this?
[17:05] <ag4913> it counted down to '0' and now has been sitting there for 10 minutes
[17:05] <vitor> i have a problema. i installed the wine 1.4. and now i am trying to install a .exe but i have this error: unable no initialize installer GUI. how can i solve this?
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> vitor  #winehq
[17:06] <pyro254750> vitor, check http://appdb.winehq.org and make sure the game you are trying to install works
[17:09] <vitor> it's not a game. it's microsoft windows 7 usb dvd tool
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> vitor: try running it from command line
[17:10] <vitor> with "wine program.exe" ?
[17:10] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[17:11] <pyro254750> isnt the usb/dvd tool just used to burn an iso of the windows 7 installation image?
[17:11] <vitor> same error
[17:11] <vitor> yes pyro
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> google that error
[17:11] <pyro254750> ubuntu can burn images natively
[17:11] <Dizzle> wouldnt unetbootin do the same?
[17:11] <ovidiu-florin> Dizzle: yes it would
[17:12] <ovidiu-florin> actually unetbootin is jut for USB drives, not for burning CD/DVD's
[17:12] <sgtkilljoy> or usb-imagewriter
[17:13] <melvin_>  /show window 3
[17:13] <pyro254750> vitor: you can burn the image natively from within ubuntu. If im not mistaken you have to purchase the iso to use the usb/dvd download tool, and it downloads the iso and burns it for you. So what that means for you, is that since you have purchased a license, you can download the .iso from torrent or newsgroups and use your legal serial and have a 100% legit copy of windows
[17:14] <pyro254750> vitor: that would allow you to burn the image natively and not have to mess with wine
[17:14]  * simpledot e
[17:14] <iwl3945> Hi every body! I just install lucid lynx and the wifi does not work, activate wifi is unclickable
[17:15] <ag4913> hey I'm looking for some help installing ubuntu
[17:15] <ag4913> anybody got a good mind for it?
[17:15] <pyro254750> ag4913: try rebooting and seeing if the installer picks back up
[17:15] <xangua> iwl3945: just installed¿ you are aware that lucid has only a copuple more months of support right¿
[17:16] <pyro254750> iwl3945: you will probably have better results with 12.04 unless you have some funky hardware
[17:16] <ag4913> pyro254750: i did. it did the same thing and now its just a black screen with a blinking cursor in the top left
[17:16] <iwl3945> I love lucid lynx and i don't wanna move
[17:17] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: what is the problem?
[17:17] <ag4913> I've tried installing with windows installer
[17:17] <pyro254750> ovidiu-florin: his install is hanging after reboot
[17:17] <iwl3945> pyro254750 you are somewhere right about. I NEED HELP PLEASE
[17:18] <pyro254750> iwl3945: what wifi adapter do you have
[17:18] <iwl3945> It is already installed
[17:18] <iwl3945> the driver is my nickname
[17:19] <macswell> My laptop hardlocks when switching from ac-power to battery. This does not happen if I put it into suspend first (or use Windows). I currently have 12.04 x64 installed, how might I go about troubleshooting this?
[17:20] <ag4913> having trouble installing ubuntu
[17:20] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[17:20] <ag4913> can someone please help
[17:20] <pyro254750> iwl3945:  http://www.dotkam.com/2008/11/17/configure-iwl3945-driver-on-ubuntu/
[17:20] <nizor> hello
[17:20] <juk> !ask | ag4913
[17:20] <iwl3945> i run there...
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> ag4913: Which version and environment?
[17:21] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin: I'm using version 12.10
[17:21] <nizor> need help on how to connect to a restricted wireless network
[17:21] <nizor> ?
[17:22] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: so you've tried to install it using the windows installer?
[17:22] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin:correct
[17:23] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: at reboot does GRUB show up?
[17:23] <kicklighter> goodnight people...
[17:23] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin:when i do, i choose ubuntu, then it says completing ubuntu installation counts down from 5. then freezes
[17:24] <ag4913> ovidiu-florin: how do i determine if GRUB shows up
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> !grub | ag4913
[17:24] <kesi> kll, Pici, are you guys still there? Had some unrelated network outage
[17:24] <kicklighter> i have an curious qestion...is it true that you can load kernels in wine?
[17:24] <SonikkuAmerica> ag4913: You can check the #grub channel for help with GRUB
[17:25] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: it's a list of bootable systems that shows up after you power on you r computer
[17:26] <kicklighter> is there a submiter for my richdom
[17:26] <LIDH> hello
[17:26] <LIDH> anyone out there to help me with some issues on Ubuntu 12.10?
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: try removing ubuntu from windows and then reinstalling it
[17:26] <kicklighter> what's on? with you ubuntu 12.10
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> !ask | LIDH
[17:26] <LIDH> can't get touch to work
[17:26] <SonikkuAmerica> nizor: Restricted network you said?
[17:27] <LIDH> i have a POS EBN X-950 and i can't find the touchscreen device
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> another wubi issue?
[17:27] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica yes
[17:27] <LIDH> lsusb doesn't pick anything, screen /dev/ttyS* doesn't either
[17:27] <ovidiu-florin> MonkeyDust: are you reffering to ag4913 's problem?
[17:27] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica so? :)
[17:28] <kicklighter> wubi...do a plain install with your furfilness in handman craft an you see it works even better
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> ag4913: can you boot in windows?
[17:28] <SonikkuAmerica> nizor: You said you were having issues connecting. Tell me more.
[17:29] <LIDH> it appears to be EgalaxTouch, but can't find the interface
[17:29] <kicklighter> plug your utp in..maybe it helps
[17:29] <LIDH> can't get it listed anywhere :s
[17:29] <LIDH> anyone to do a private and help me?
[17:30] <kicklighter> i will do a ltile private work..what's the prob?
[17:33] <kicklighter> me my self have prob...can i load the kernel of windows nt 4.0 in wine...anyone expiernce
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> !wine | kicklighter
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> kicklighter  better ask in #winehq
[17:35] <kicklighter> it wasn't just a idea...i will. sort it out myself. ..do you people grant the alwsne to kitle in this chatroom???
[17:35] <jhutchins> SonikkuAmerica: please don't feed the trolls.
[17:36] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins: Not intended....
[17:36] <kicklighter> amazing piece a os ubuntu i was gazded with the easyness of it...maybe soneday the create an ever better gui
[17:37] <kicklighter> anyone in this chatroom for some smalltalk....????
[17:38] <ThinkT510> !ot | kicklighter
[17:38] <kicklighter> bye
[17:38] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica i see the network, its close to my house, but if you try connecting....it just *try* and then tells you cannot connect...its accepts only systems that it has in its databse... something of such nature....my friend's system is on its database so he connects eaasily
[17:39] <shanttu> Greetings. I've had some kernel-crashes. Now usr/share/apport/kernel_crashdump is consuming 100% cpu. Should I kill it or just wait?
[17:41] <ihatewinbad> I hope this counts as a support topic.... Is Startup Disk Creator the only app to burn ISO's usable as boot, similar to Universal USB Installer?
[17:41] <LIDH> anyone to help me with touchscreen problems?
[17:42] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: are you trying to burn an iso from within ubuntu?
[17:42] <jhutchins> ihatewinbad: Any bootable iso image can be burned to disc using one of many applications.
[17:42] <jhutchins> !burn
[17:42] <opalepatrick> can I locate apache on a shared partition so that I can access from different distros. Done it with everything else, but not knowledgeable yet enough to work this through.
[17:42] <shanttu> ihatewinbad, I like multisystem http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[17:43] <Kruemmel_m0nster> Hey guys i need serious help
[17:44] <ihatewinbad> pyro254750: I am trying to create a boot so I can Side-by-Side MInt 14.
[17:44] <pyro254750> do you already have the iso downloaded?
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> Kruemmel_m0nster  start with a question
[17:44] <ihatewinbad> Yes I do.
[17:44] <Kruemmel_m0nster> Any1 has some skills with data recovery? Issued rm -r in the wrong directory
[17:44] <pyro254750> right click iso and select write to disc
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !recover | Kruemmel_m0nster
[17:45] <ThinkT510> !undelete | Kruemmel_m0nster
[17:45] <ihatewinbad> From there will I be able to make it boot from the Flash Drive correct?
[17:46] <Kruemmel_m0nster> By the way its ntfs
[17:46] <pyro254750> so you arent trying to burn a mint iso to a dvd, your trying to burn it to a flash drive? or you are trying to create a boot disk to install from the flash drive? please clarify
[17:47] <ihatewinbad> Boot Disk to Install from the flash drive.
[17:47] <pyro254750> you can select boot device when pc is booting up, usually something like f12 during post check, and select usb device
[17:48] <ihatewinbad> That's not the issue I am having. I am just not sure what application would work best to write the ISO image, so I can boot it.
[17:48] <terkyi> hi, ubuntu cannot detect wireless wifi capability on my laptop. I think the card is fried. Is there a way to check though through terminal? wired ethernet internet works fine
[17:49] <Kruemmel_m0nster> Please anyone? :-(
[17:49] <ihatewinbad> Startup Disk Creator, the app I attempted would not accept the ISO images.
[17:51] <sw> Hi, what's the default Terminal font and size in Ubuntu?
[17:51] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: sudo dd if=mint14.iso of=/dev/sdc
[17:51] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: that is assuming that the device is sdc. Perform this with it unmounted
[17:51] <boze> I put alias aptana="/home/boze/Documents/Aptana_Studio_3/AptanaStudio3 " in my .bashrc, but it won't run from the command line :(
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> Kruemmel_m0nster  http://askubuntu.com/questions/59968/recover-accidentally-removed-files-on-ntfs-partition#59971
[17:52] <useless1> pyro254750: I am back I follow all the steps but no wifi at all
[17:52] <useless1> pyro254750: It was iwl3945 last time
[17:52] <LIDH> anyone to help me with touchscreen problems?
[17:53] <ihatewinbad> its sdb, but where you put sdc I should input sdb correct?
[17:53] <Kruemmel_m0nster> MonkeyDust: thanks but my problem with this is that i want to recover every file
[17:53] <TPB-AFK> !offtopic
[17:53] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: correct. The iso name should match your iso as well
[17:54] <LIDH> *lifts hand and waits for anyone to pay attention*
[17:54] <ihatewinbad> alright I will try it and get back to you. Thank you.
[17:54] <pythonsnake> Can I ask Ubuntu Server questions here?
[17:54] <pythonsnake> #ubuntu-server
[17:54] <pythonsnake>  is really quiet
[17:55] <useless1> I can not use my wifi point this a fresh install ubuntu lucid lynx, perhaps it's over but I think there is a solution to my problem
[17:56] <ThinkT510> useless1: what chipset?
[17:56] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[17:57] <useless1> the driver name is iwl3945, which command can i type to full inform you about?
[17:57] <pythonsnake> #ubuntu-server
[17:57] <pythonsnake> oops
[17:57] <OerHeks> LIDH, if you don't get responce, try #ubuntu-touch * i have no touch experience
[17:57] <LIDH> ah, thank's i'll go there
[17:58] <Ghostring> hey guys, any idea why i get this on bootinfoscript: Mounting failed:   mount: unknown filesystem type ''... it's a windows disk i cloned with DD  (both ntfs) , it was able to see the files on ubuntu but after i ran the windows boot repair it screwed the windows disk
[17:58] <terkyi> why is my wifi card hard blocked? and what does that mean? http://pastebin.com/7C6kx6A3
[17:59] <OerHeks> !bootinfoscript
[17:59] <ihatewinbad> pyro254750: Real quick, when I type the filename of the ISO, and type the command you told me, it tells me there is no such file or directory. How do I tell it where the file is?
[17:59] <OerHeks> Ghostring, not sure it will fix windows problems
[17:59] <pyro254750> ihatewinbad: how did you download the iso?
[17:59] <Ghostring> OerHeks I can't see the disk on ubuntu, the content
[18:00] <ihatewinbad> I downloaded it straight from linuxmint.com and saved it when prompted.
[18:00] <Ghostring> Contents: unknown... I just want to understand why ubuntu can't even open the disk since it was able the first time
[18:00] <nizor> SonikkuAmerica So? pls help if u've got idea
[18:02]  * wwilkins tests this out
[18:02] <pyro254750> did you do it from chrome?
[18:02] <zebra> hej jest tam kto ?
[18:02] <ihatewinbad> No, Firefox.
[18:03] <pyro254750> file should be located in /home/yourusername/Downloads
[18:03] <opalepatrick> annoying thing in unity 12.10 - system has a problem, get message box asking if I want to report it, say yes, password, then it either disappears or starts again.. maybe three times. Annoying... any clues?
[18:03] <ihatewinbad> So through the terminal how do I tell it to look there?
[18:03] <Ghostring> gonna reboot and try crazy things them :(
[18:03] <opalepatrick> Dont think I ever report anything
[18:04] <pyro254750> from terminal type cd /home/yourusername/Downloads
[18:04] <ihatewinbad> ok let me try that.
[18:04] <pyro254750> then type dir and you should get a list of files in that folder
[18:04] <pyro254750> and you should see the iso
[18:04] <pyro254750> then run the command i gave you earlier
[18:05] <mr_inferior> i type in >> sudo ./configure and get this output: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[18:05] <jhutchins> mr_inferior: So you conclude what?
[18:06] <LIDH> In ubuntu 12.10 how do I list every device plugged in? (com, USB, LPT)
[18:06] <ioria> terkiy: are you using encryption ?
[18:07] <pyro254750> mr_inferior: that error indicates that you dont have build-essential installed
[18:08] <beowulf2> anyone know any good games for linux? preferably non-violent ones
[18:08] <LIDH> In ubuntu 12.10 how do I list every device plugged in? (com, USB, LPT)
[18:08] <OerHeks> LIDH, lshw / lsusb / lspci
[18:09] <LIDH> but it doesn't list my touchscreen device
[18:09] <ThinkT510> !games | beowulf2
[18:09] <LIDH> can't detect the EgalaxTouch
[18:09] <LIDH> even with the drivers installed it doesn't show up
[18:10] <LIDH> any ideas on what it could be?
[18:11] <Andre_de1> hi
[18:18] <Andre_de1> g
[18:19] <d3javu> hi all
[18:19] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[18:20] <shukty> HI, i ve a prob. with my 12.10 x64 and driver ati. I m using a laptop and till now np , but today my ati config set my resolution to 4000*4000 and it s kinda impossible 'due i m sure my lapt it s quite ancient and ... how can i set it manually ? tnx dudes
[18:21] <frustro> cr90255
[18:21] <eggplant-expert> shutky what ati card is that model
[18:22] <shukty>  Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
[18:22] <shukty>  minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1600 x 1600
[18:22] <pyro254750> shukty: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:23] <beowulf2> !games
[18:23] <pyro254750> once resolution is edited to where you want it you will need to restart x
[18:23] <tworkin> I'm trying to install a python script as a daemon via upstart. I have my .conf file in /etc/init, and can issue `start foo`; the problem seems to be this script calls git/ssh at a few points, so it needs an SSH key. what user does upstart start my script as?
[18:23] <alusion> Hey ubuntu I just checked my logs and apparently I have java listening on port 4242 and 4243 and so I suspect some kind of compromise what actions should I take right now?
[18:23] <shukty> ok i ll try pyro
[18:23] <Rienzilla> alusion: i'd recommend pulling the network plug of the machine as a first order of business
[18:23] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[18:24] <Rienzilla> if you are interested in what or who compromised you, investigate
[18:24] <Rienzilla> and then the only real solution is a clean reinstall of the machine
[18:24] <alusion> I will investigate yes.
[18:24] <alusion> how can I just close the port
[18:25] <Rienzilla> you can put it in your firewall, but it's a better idea to just disconnect the machine (not reboot it just disconnect it)
[18:25] <tworkin> alusion: kill the process, or iptables can ban specific ports
[18:25] <Rienzilla> since you can't know what else they have access to
[18:25] <LIDH> just shutdown the computer, it's the safest way
[18:25] <Rienzilla> if you shut it down you cannot investigate
[18:26] <LIDH> that's a problem
[18:26] <LIDH> but, you won't be attacked either, if it is shut down
[18:26] <Rienzilla> you ccan also set it on fire
[18:26] <Rienzilla> that's also a very secure solution
[18:26] <Rienzilla> :)
[18:26] <LIDH> yes, and then grab a notebook and start working as it used to be a few years ago
[18:27] <LIDH> the idea of setting it on fire, may not be the safest, there's a possibility for data recovery after that
[18:27] <LIDH> maybe some acid or something
[18:27] <navetz> hello, can someone please help me fix eclipse. It is very very slow, I'm using Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_11-b21) with eclipse Juno
[18:28] <alusion> hmm so my iptables command should look something like this:
[18:29] <alusion> sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 4242 -j DROP
[18:29] <alusion> repeat for 4243 as well, does it check out?
[18:29] <nullby7e> my video card with default drivers cannot be used it's very slowly, but when i install proper drivers when i start X i don't have icons start menu etc. just background wallpaper, how to fix that?
[18:29] <LIDH> So, I have Ubuntu 12.10 and a POS system EBN X-950 with touchscreen (EgalaxyTouch according to the manual), so, i tried $lsusb and it doesn't list the touchscreen controller. If I do a screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] can't get any input from the touchscreen. Already did $ modprobe -r usbtouchscreen and still doesn't detect, any ideas what's the problem?
[18:29] <bean> alusion: yes, but remember that iptables is a first-match-wins sort of thing
[18:29] <bean> so if you have earlier rules that allow
[18:31] <Eliadar> !list
[18:32] <Eliadar> il cavaliere oscuro
[18:32] <bean> !it | Eliadar
[18:33] <bean> Eliadar: but this is not a channel for movies.
[18:33] <mrdeb> does alternate installer allow wifi connect
[18:33] <mrdeb> ?
[18:33] <Eliadar> ok where is channel for movie?
[18:34] <bean> Eliadar: probably not on this network
[18:34] <Eliadar> xdcc?
[18:34] <bean> Eliadar: no.
[18:35] <dirkounet> hello, which ftp-server do you advise to use on ubuntu 12.04 : pureftp or proftp or smth else?
[18:35] <bean> Eliadar: Non ci sono film su questa rete.
[18:35] <bean> dirkounet: I like vsftpd but that's a personal opinion
[18:35] <nullby7e> my video card with default drivers cannot be used it's very slowly, but when i install proper drivers when i start X i don't have icons start menu etc. just background wallpaper, how to fix that?
[18:36] <_methods> vsftpd
[18:36] <dirkounet> does vsftp also provide a virtual user concept such as pure-ftp?
[18:37] <bean> dirkounet: yes, i think.
[18:37] <_methods> http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/
[18:37] <bean> dirkounet ^
[18:38] <tworkin> in an upstart job, Ii'm trying to activate a python virtual environment via the "source" command. I get this error: /proc/self/fd/9: 3: /proc/self/fd/9: source: not found
[18:38] <tworkin> can you 'source' in a upstart script block?
[18:42] <LIDH> How do I get ubuntu 12.10 to detect more than 4 COM ports?
[18:44] <jrib> tworkin: you might want to try #upstart too
[18:44] <escott> twobitsprite, /bin/sh is not bash
[18:44] <escott> tworkin, ^^^
[18:44] <_methods> LIDH: have you tried setserial?
[18:44] <LIDH> how do i do that?
[18:44] <LIDH> all i know is it only appears listed com 1 to 4
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> twobitsprite  bash is ba sh bourne again shell
[18:45] <_methods> under dmesg?
[18:45] <LIDH> yes
[18:45] <_methods> and you have more than that?
[18:45] <LIDH> and i know it has more
[18:45] <_methods> hrmm
[18:45] <escott> tworkin, either use the proper POSIX commands "." in this case, or explicitely use bash
[18:46] <LIDH> i already did a few things
[18:46] <jhutchins> LIDH: Where are the other com ports?  On an extender card?  USB?
[18:46] <LIDH> i think the dmesg | ls -/dev/tty only shows 4
[18:46] <LIDH> it's a POS system
[18:46] <LIDH> it has internal and external coms
[18:46] <_methods> try dmesg | grep tty
[18:46] <KC4LZN> Is there any references for writing rules in udev other than man pages? I've looked at this site http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html but it doesn't cover 12.04
[18:46] <LIDH> i'll try, brb
[18:48] <dlsensei_xubuntu> hi
[18:48] <dlsensei_xubuntu> everyone
[18:49] <LIDH> did that and it shows: first row serial8250 ttyS[0-3]
[18:49] <_methods> hrmm
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> hey guys got a dell studio 1537 trying to install wireless driver
[18:50] <LIDH> and then repeats the same as: 00:05 ttyS0
[18:50] <LIDH> to 4
[18:50] <LIDH> and then 00:06, and so on
[18:50] <LIDH> until 00:09
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> i used the sta one but my dlink doesnt shows up only my neighbours do
[18:50] <_methods> well back to what jhutchins said is it usb, or where are the ports
[18:50] <_methods> on a card
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> works fine on win 7
[18:50] <_methods> and how many ports are there
[18:50] <dlsensei_xubuntu> helloo
[18:51] <rypervenche> !ask | dlsensei_xubuntu
[18:51] <rypervenche> dlsensei_xubuntu: Err, wrong one. Please be patient, someone will answer you.
[18:51] <LIDH> well, the ports are on the bottom of the POS
[18:51] <_methods> how many ports are there?
[18:52] <LIDH> in BIOS it detects 8
[18:52] <jhutchins> LIDH: IBM?
[18:52] <makerbreakr> hi, is it possible to restart lightdm from a cron job?
[18:52] <LIDH> EBN X-950
[18:52] <jhutchins> LIDH: You're not working for Core are you?
[18:52] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: Sure.
[18:52] <B3N--10> hello
[18:52] <LIDH> http://www.ebn-pos.com/products/X-POS-950-Sandy-Bridge-Quad-Dual-core.php
[18:52] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, I have tried all variations
[18:52] <LIDH> working for core?
[18:52] <makerbreakr> and I can not get it to restart
[18:53] <makerbreakr> service, /etc/init.d, full paths, etc
[18:53] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: how often do you want it to restart?
[18:53] <makerbreakr> I have the timing done, I just cant get lightdm to restart
[18:53] <LIDH> what's core?
[18:53] <makerbreakr> let me gist
[18:54] <makerbreakr> https://gist.github.com/4611554 thats my latest iteration
[18:54] <_methods> LIDH: you acn try setserial -g /dev/ttyS[01234567]
[18:54] <LIDH> so it says it has 5 RS232 and then 3 internal
[18:54] <LIDH> ok, let me try
[18:54] <makerbreakr> I tried /sbin/service, /etc/init.d/lightdm etc
[18:54] <LIDH> brb
[18:54] <makerbreakr> the first command works just fine fwiw
[18:55] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: two questions
[18:55] <makerbreakr> shoot
[18:55] <jhutchins> I believe the ubuntu kernel is compiled to use only 4 serial ports.
[18:55] <_methods> hrmm
[18:55] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: What is the exit code coming from that fist command? and did you add this to root's crontab?
[18:55] <makerbreakr> it is /etc/cron.d/
[18:55] <jhutchins> Could someone check one of the config files in boot and search for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e2fJfiddx4
[18:55] <jhutchins> Arg, bufferbusted again.
[18:56] <jhutchins> CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=
[18:56] <makerbreakr> and, Im not sure what the exit code is from the first command, but it should be completing successfully
[18:56] <makerbreakr> (ie, the file does get moved)
[18:56] <jhutchins> I suspect it's CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=4
[18:56] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: try doing it from root's cron (sudo crontab -e)
[18:56] <vlaca> jhutchins: says 32
[18:56] <jhutchins> (That video by the way is a very nice rendition of Stairway by Heart, with some interesting people in the audience.)
[18:56] <LIDH> so, it only detects 4
[18:57] <jhutchins> vlaca: Interesting, that's changed.
[18:57] <LIDH> i did setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0-9]
[18:57] <vlaca> (on 12.10)
[18:57] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: root mv /etc/X11/91-ServerFlags.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/91-ServerFlags.conf; echo $? > /root/exitcode
[18:57] <LIDH> and only ttyS[0-4] got detected
[18:57] <jhutchins> LIDH: Double check the config file on your system.
[18:57] <LIDH> ok, how?
[18:57] <LIDH> sudo nano /etc/config?
[18:57] <LIDH> where's the config file?
[18:58] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: The exit code may still not be 0, in which case the && will prevent lightdm from restarting.
[18:58] <jhutchins> grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/coinfig-`uname -r`
[18:58] <jhutchins> config
[18:58] <jhutchins> grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config-`uname -r`
[18:58] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, if I put any other command there it works
[18:58] <makerbreakr> ie /sbin/reboot
[18:59] <makerbreakr> exitcode is 127
[18:59] <rypervenche> that's why
[18:59] <jhutchins> LIDH: Probably not a bad idea to just grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config-`uname r`
[18:59] <shock_one> Hi. Is there any way to make Ubuntu wake up faster? It takes about 8 seconds compared to 2 in OS X on the same hardware.
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  more swap, maybe
[19:01] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: It may be because it is overwriting an old file, in which case using mv -f may work.
[19:01] <LIDH> did that but it failed, maybe i'm doing it wrong
[19:01] <LIDH> did exactly as you typed here
[19:01] <roger_padactor> I installed a ubuntu image on ec2 the other day and when looking at the http conf folder it was missing the site-available and sites-enabled.  how do I have that setup?
[19:02] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, no go
[19:02] <shock_one> MonkeyDust, I don't have swap. As far as I know sleep (S3 mode) doesn't use HDD to store information from memory. How would swap help?
[19:02] <makerbreakr> i was able to have the exit code 127 and reboot the machien though, rather than restart lightdm
[19:02] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: I don't know what the 127 exit code is for though, so I can't say.
[19:02] <makerbreakr> i think its something to do with the way lightdm specifically works
[19:02] <RobinJ> in which channel do i need to be for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=synlnIErJKU ?
[19:03] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: not possible. You probably didn't have a 127 exit code that time that you did.
[19:03] <Pici> RobinJ: Please don't post random links here. If you have a question, just ask it.
[19:03] <RobinJ> ..... Pici not random.
[19:03] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, i am going to remove the mv part of it
[19:03] <jhutchins> LIDH: Ok, instead of the part in the ` marks, just use tab.
[19:03] <LIDH> so, how do i do that grep config_serial thing?
[19:03] <makerbreakr> and just have it run /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[19:03] <rypervenche> makerbreakr: You could use ; instead of &&
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  would that be hibernate or suspend?
[19:03] <LIDH> ok
[19:04] <LIDH> brb, i have to go 2 floors down to get the POS
[19:04] <jhutchins> LIDH: I'm off digging through some old documentation on this.  Used to do POS myself.
[19:04] <shock_one> MonkeyDust, suspend.
[19:04] <LIDH> I really appreciate that, if we were neighbours i would pay you some cold beers ;)
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  then use swap, it has to be larger than your ram
[19:04] <_methods> LIDH: you'll probably have to add som uarts to grub
[19:04] <Pici> RobinJ: #ubuntu-on-air
[19:04] <_methods> LIDH:
[19:05] <_methods> http://kiwi-hacker.blogspot.com/2010/12/adding-4-port-rs232-serial-pci-card-to.html
[19:05] <jaequery> I've got a strange problem. i'm at /, and i do "du -hs", it says total is 7.5GB,  but df -h shows my / is using 50GB. what gives?
[19:06] <bean> jaequery: are you doing sudo du -sh /
[19:06] <bean> ?
[19:06] <MoL0ToV> 00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device 0153 (rev 09) - what is this?
[19:06] <jaequery> yea I'm root
[19:06] <jhutchins> LIDH: If the kernel config is ok, you need to know what parameters the ports use - what IRQ and IO address.
[19:06] <makerbreakr> 07 01 * * 3  /usr/bin/service lightdm restart ; echo $? > /root/exitcode
[19:07] <bean> jaequery, not sure then.
[19:07] <makerbreakr> rypervenche, that yeilds no exit code in /root
[19:07] <shock_one> MonkeyDust, Can you explain why would it make waking up faster. I have some doubts about it — in suspend mode memory content isn't written out but remains in RAM.
[19:07] <makerbreakr> which is weird
[19:08] <soneri> ciao
[19:08] <soneri> !list
[19:08] <Capneon> join #ubuntu-wou
[19:09] <jhutchins> LIDH: Results?
[19:09] <LIDH> can't get over that code grep CONFIG_SERIAL
[19:09] <LIDH> keep getting directory not found
[19:09] <LIDH> :s
[19:09] <_methods> you try that link i sent you?
[19:09] <Capneon> join #ubuntu-wou
[19:09] <LIDH> still nothing..
[19:09] <jhutchins> grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config<tab>
[19:10] <LIDH> i was trying, i have to take pictures of it with the mobile phone to do the commands
[19:10] <LIDH> i will bring it upstairs, brb
[19:10] <_methods> use andchat
[19:10] <_methods> android i'm assuming
[19:10] <_methods> then you can log in here with your phone
[19:11] <Capneon> #join ubuntu-wou
[19:11] <Pici> Capneon: What are you trying to do?
[19:11] <Capneon> join another room
[19:12] <Pici> Capneon: /join #channel
[19:12] <Capneon> ty
[19:12] <LIDH> yes but now i have it here next to me
[19:12] <LIDH> let me just switch it on
[19:12] <_methods> k
[19:14] <brontosaurusrex> lmao
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> shock_one  apologies, it's hibernation that uses swap, not suspend
[19:15] <LIDH> so, the grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config
[19:15] <jhutchins> MonkeyDust: I prefer to use "suspend to disk" or "suspend to ram" - "sleep" and "hibernate" can mean either.
[19:15] <LIDH> pressing tab gives me /boot/config-3.5.0-
[19:16] <jhutchins> LIDH: press tab again.
[19:16] <jhutchins> LIDH: and/or do uname -r and see what's running. It's probably whatever the higher number is.
[19:17] <LIDH> i'll get the chat in the pos so i can Copy/paste
[19:17] <LIDH> just a sec
[19:17] <_methods> ssh into it
[19:17] <LIDH> that's easy to talk if you understand how to do it..
[19:18] <_methods> oh
[19:18] <LIDH> if it's easy, i could do
[19:18] <_methods> well do you know it's ip address
[19:18] <_methods> and are you using linux right now?
[19:18] <_methods> or windows
[19:18] <LIDH> windows
[19:18] <jhutchins> LIDH: up arrow will repeat the previous command.
[19:18] <_methods> well if you have it right there just do whatever is easiest
[19:19] <_methods> learning ssh is a whole other bag of cats
[19:19] <shock_one> jhutchins, I specified that I use S3 mode. It has pretty unambiguous meaning :-)
[19:19] <jhutchins> LIDH: There's a free program called putty that will let you connect to a linux box running sshd.  Very handy.
[19:19] <_methods> ^^
[19:20] <jhutchins> shock_one: Maybe to you.  I don't know an S3 from a K2500.
[19:20] <jhutchins> LIDH: In fact, if this box is going to be some kind of server, ssh is pretty much essential.
[19:21] <amews_aj-study> After installing guest additions in ubuntu 10.04 running inside latest Virtualbox, the taskbar never appears after login. It seems to freeze on the desktop (only background visible). Ideas?
[19:22] <jhutchins> amews_aj-study: Isn't 10.4 pretty old?
[19:22] <amews_aj-study> True, but it's the last LTS before unity, which I don't like
[19:22] <tkeith> Is there a way to have kvm/libvirt VMs automatically save before shutdown and resume after startup? (so automatic security update reboots can not kill off VMs)
[19:24] <LIDH_> hello, i'm now on the POS
[19:25] <amews_aj-study> jhutchins, suggestions?
[19:25] <LIDH_> config-3.5.0-17-generic  config-3.5.0-22-generic
[19:25] <ikonia> LIDH_: POS?
[19:25] <LIDH_> i get this if i press tab
[19:25] <LIDH_> if i do grep CONFIG_SERIAL /boot/config
[19:27] <dlam> hey how do i find what package has a command?  I'm looking for the one that has `dig`
[19:28] <jhutchins> LIDH: Sorry, multitasking again.  If you type 2<tab> it should complete the 22-generic.
[19:28] <jhutchins> LIDH: We'll assume it's running the most recent.
[19:29] <LIDH> yes got it
[19:29] <LIDH_> CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS=48
[19:29] <LIDH_> CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS=32
[19:30] <jhutchins> Ok, cool, we now know your kernel supports up to 32 ports.
[19:30] <jhutchins> cat /proc/tty/driver/serial
[19:31] <LIDH> after 4 i get IRQ0
[19:31] <jhutchins> LIDH: Might need sudo with that.
[19:31] <LIDH> yes already did, after 4 i get unknown
[19:31] <LIDH> before that i get uart:16550A Port:xxxxxx
[19:32] <LIDH_> 0: uart:16550A port:000003F8 irq:4 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 1: uart:16550A port:000002F8 irq:3 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 2: uart:16550A port:000003E8 irq:5 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 3: uart:16550A port:000002E8 irq:5 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 4: uart:16550A port:000002F0 irq:10 tx:2340 rx:0 RTS|DTR
[19:32] <LIDH_> 5: uart:unknown port:00000000 irq:0
[19:32] <g16> How do I launch the default mail client without knowing its name, via terminal? Sort of default-mail command?
[19:32] <Pici> !paste | LIDH_
[19:32] <jhutchins> LIDH: Ok, so you've got five ports.
[19:33] <LIDH> no, it has more
[19:33] <LIDH> i didnt paste more..it has until 31
[19:33] <LIDH> since all are unknow
[19:33] <jhutchins> LIDH: Right, because it's set to have 32 ports available, but only sees the hardware for 5.
[19:33] <jhutchins> !paste
[19:34] <LIDH> yes thats it
[19:34] <LIDH> so, how do i identify if it has any hardware plugged=
[19:34] <disharmonic> hey guys
[19:35] <LIDH> all this mess is because it has a touch controller that isn't detected neither on USB or Serial
[19:35] <jhutchins> LIDH: Have to generate a signal from the hardware.
[19:35] <disharmonic> Is there an issue with Ubuntu and Cat 13.01? Both KDE and Unity are seriously misbehaving
[19:35] <LIDH> already did the command: screen /dev/ttyS[0-4] and it doesn't pick anything
[19:36] <phschwartz> can you install a local package with apt-get the way you can with yum localinstall?
[19:36] <Pici> phschwartz: no, you'd use dpkg fr that.
[19:36] <Pici> *for
[19:36] <fidel> phschwartz: dpkg -i path_to_local_package.deb
[19:37] <phschwartz> Pici: dpkg doesn't do any depenency resolution, and I am not a fan of telling users to then do an apt-get install -f after the package install fails
[19:38] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> (H)3ll0
[19:38] <Pici> phschwartz: gdebi will do dependency resolution, but thats probably not what you're looking for.
[19:38] <stef1a> hi. i'm using ubuntu 12.10, and whenever i boot, the brightness setting on my computer (hp probook 4535s) resets to maximum brightness. how can i force ubuntu to remember the brightness settings?
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> cam0ver
[19:39] <Pici> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: Can we help you?
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> no :P
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> Pici
[19:39] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> any hacker here :P ?
[19:40] <jhutchins> LIDH: That's not what screen does.
[19:40] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> any HACKER here ?
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> phschwartz  what you can: write a script that includes dpkg -i blah && sudo apt-get -f install, then alias that script to something simple for your users
[19:41] <h00k> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: this isn't a hacker-search channel, it's an Ubuntu support channel. If you have an ubuntu related question, this is the place to ask it
[19:41] <jhutchins> LIDH: So, setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0-4] - does that show all 5?
[19:41] <h00k> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: check out the topic for important info
[19:41] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> im not a fuckin n00b i know many hackers Joinc the IRC here :P
[19:41] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> cam0VER
[19:41] <LIDH> yes
[19:42] <LIDH> it displays all
[19:42] <Xx-MEGAFAB-xX> 200 Manhattan CAMERA's HACKED by World'sBrutal Hackers & MegaTeam - Xx-M E G A F A B -xX
[19:42] <DJones> Xx-MEGAFAB-xX: /remove Xx-MEGAFAB-xX Enough of that
[19:42] <disharmonic> So after updating to cat 13.1 both Unity and KDE fail to display a desktop. I can see the wallpaper and the UI flickers in and out. Any ideas?
[19:42] <phschwartz> DJones: ty
[19:42] <willem_> willem is Quit
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> disharmonic  what's cat 13.1 ?
[19:43] <disharmonic> MonkeyDust, AMD catalyst 13.01
[19:43] <jhutchins> LIDH: 0 & 1 are generic I/O, 2 is the MSR, 4 is the customer display.
[19:44] <jhutchins> LIDH: http://www.ebn-pos.com/products/Spec_X-POS-950.php
[19:44] <LIDH> hum, and the touchscreen?
[19:44] <LIDH> my problem is i cant connect the touchscreen
[19:44] <jhutchins> LIDH: I think we have to assume it's USB.
[19:44] <jhutchins> LIDH: Does it show up in lsusb?
[19:44] <LIDH> can't get it listed with dmesg | grep "USB"
[19:46] <lickalott> gents, whats the package name for the latest glib?  i've tried glib-2.34.3 glib2, glib2.34, glib-2.34
[19:48] <lantizia> Is there anyway to refer to $HOME or ~ in a desktop shortcut file?  Neither seem to be expanded
[19:48] <disharmonic> there's no errors in dmesg |tail and fgl_glxgears works fine
[19:48] <bipul> http://pastebin.com/2SswDcp2 can any one tell me what's wrong with this
[19:48] <trism> lickalott: for building code? libglib2.0-dev
[19:48] <h00k> lickalott: you can tab it out, libglib[tab]
[19:49] <zatan> Hej how can i set these permission on file ? -rwxr-xr-x
[19:49] <jhutchins> zatan: Use chmod
[19:49] <lickalott> zatan 421 421 421 rwx respectively
[19:49] <lickalott> chmod 744 <filename)
[19:49] <lickalott> *<filename>
[19:49] <bekks> chmod 755 ...
[19:49] <bekks> 4+1=5
[19:50] <lickalott> sry!!
[19:50] <lickalott> lol
[19:50] <lickalott> math in public
[19:50] <ultreia> lickalott- http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/glib/2.35/glib-2.35.4.tar.xz
[19:50] <zatan> nice one guys
[19:50] <lickalott> ultreia i just downloaded that, but I was getting irritated that I couldn't grab it out of the repos
[19:50] <lickalott> tks!
[19:50] <Nemis> hi guys
[19:50] <Nemis> I need some help
[19:50] <lickalott> ask
[19:51] <Nemis> InputStream xmlStream = getClass().getClassLoader().getResourceAsStream("/resources/midi.xml");
[19:51] <Nemis> returning null
[19:51] <Nemis> midi.xml is placed under src/main/resources
[19:51] <Pici> Nemis: Try the channel for whatever language you're writing that in/.
[19:51] <lickalott> c++ or java?
[19:51] <Nemis> i tought it is a java support channel
[19:51] <Pici> Nemis: This is #ubuntu
[19:51] <Nemis> do you know which channel or server I can use?
[19:51]  * lickalott looks at chan title
[19:51] <Pici> Nemis: join ##java
[19:52] <Nemis> ok sry
[19:52] <Nemis> oh, sry
[19:52] <Nemis> it automaticaly joined me to ubuntu i didnt notice
[19:52] <crawln> so is there a avconv channel to :P
[19:52] <Pici> !alis
[19:52] <disharmonic> Also 3d games work as they should. What could cause both kwin and compiz to have issues?
[19:52] <ultreia> lickalott- most distros lag behind the newest packages
[19:54] <Nemis> damn, cannot join java channel, it is +r
[19:54] <bekks> Nemis: Then you have to register your nickname before.
[19:54] <g16> Nemis: try #programming
[19:54] <Nemis> how to?
[19:54] <Nemis> how to register
[19:54] <g16>  /join #programminf
[19:55] <bekks> Nemis: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[19:55] <sw> !register | Nemis
[19:55] <crawln> and all i'm trying to do is batch convert mkv's to mp4's with avconv lol
[19:56] <dlsensei_xubuntu> ok solve the problem i got a wireless adapter bcm4312 dell studio 1537 i used b43-lpphy and now i can connect to dlink
[20:01] <disharmonic> Can enabling xvba cause this stuff? I don't see what it has to do with either KWin or Compiz
[20:01] <ultreia> disharmonic- what are the symptoms of your problem?
[20:02] <disharmonic> Weirdly enough i don't have the issue with E17 even though i have compositing enabled there too
[20:02] <rubiconjosh> I am running dual monitors and I want to change the monitor that notifications appear on, is this posibble? I do not see an option for it under Displays.
[20:02] <disharmonic> ultreia,  both Unity and KDE fail to display a desktop. I can see the wallpaper and the UI flickers in and out. Any ideas?
[20:02] <jhutchins> disharmonic: compiz causes compiz to have issues.
[20:03] <ultreia> disharmonic- so you have the wallpaper background with anything else?
[20:04] <disharmonic> ultreia, yes. The ui just flickers in and out quite quickly
[20:04] <ErdMutter> I was wondering if there is anyone with experience in improving battery life on a mac running Ubuntu 12.10. As of right now I only get 50% of the battery life of that on Mac OS X Mountain Lion.
[20:05] <disharmonic> ErdMutter, have you installed and configured laptop-mode tools?
[20:05] <ErdMutter> disharmonic: Yes, I did have laptop-mode-tools installed and configured.
[20:06] <ultreia> disharmonic- there may be a descriptive error message in /var/log/xorg.0.log (?)
[20:07] <crawln> so how would i user avconv to batch convert mkv to mp4 file format
[20:07] <jrib> crawln: can you convert one file yet?
[20:08] <crawln> i can
[20:08] <jrib> crawln: use a for loop then
[20:09] <crawln> well i just started learning how to use ubuntu 2 days ago :(]
[20:09] <crawln> and the loop things still confuse me
[20:09] <jrib> crawln: are all the files in one directory?
[20:09] <crawln> yes
[20:09] <crawln> when i did the example
[20:09] <jrib> crawln: what example?
[20:09] <crawln> it converted them to mkv.mp4
[20:09] <disharmonic> ultreia,  no errors in Xorg.0.log and 3D games work fine
[20:10] <LIDH> oh god, i'm getting full of this POS, so..the touchscreen is not detected on USB and also on TTYS*
[20:10] <OerHeks> ErdMutter, maybe this askubuntu answer is any help >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/103886/dual-boot-ubuntu-using-3-times-more-battery-than-leopard/104089#104089
[20:11] <disharmonic> HW accelerated XBMC works fine as well.
[20:11] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; do avconv -i "$i.mkv" -c copy "$i.mp4"; done
[20:12] <ErdMutter> OerHeks: Thank you, I will read though it. :)
[20:12] <jrib> crawln: so you just want to rename them at this point or do you want to redo the converting and get the name right from the start?
[20:12] <ultreia> disharmonic- then the problem must be in the window manager rather than in X. I can understand unity being a failure, but not so for kde
[20:12] <crawln> get the name right from the start
[20:12] <KeyboardNotFound> Hi, i joined added monitor into the VGA port on my laptop, but I see the same monitor I see the laptop, how do I monitor to see one workspace and the other monitor (laptop) other workspace?
[20:12] <crawln> i know i can use the cp *.mkv.mp4 *.mp4
[20:12] <crawln> but that's just annoying lol
[20:12] <crawln> wanna do it right from the beginning
[20:13] <disharmonic> ultreia, it's what has me perplexed as well. On top of that E17 works fine
[20:13] <jrib> crawln: try this example in your shell: foo=file.mkv; echo ${foo}; echo ${foo%.mkv}
[20:13] <jrtappers> KeyboardNotFound, to stop them being in clone use the display settings
[20:14] <jrtappers> type in "Display" at the launcher, it should come up
[20:14] <ultreia> disharmonic- perhaps it is something in your xinitrc file?
[20:15] <disharmonic> i didn't touch that but i'll tke a look. is there a log of recently updated/installed packages?
[20:15] <crawln> i see how that is
[20:15] <jrib> crawln: ok, so now you know how to modify your command?
[20:15] <donnie> How do I tell update manager to stop displaying updates. When "Don't display updates" is checked
[20:17] <ultreia> disharmonic- /var/log/dpkg.log (I think)
[20:17] <disharmonic> ultreia, duh. thanks
[20:18] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; avconv -i "${file%.mkv}  -codec copy ${file%.mp4} ; done?
[20:18] <crawln> or would it just be
[20:18] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; avconv -i "$i" -codec copy ${file%.mp4} ; done?
[20:18] <jp^> Any one know how to add lines to a text file which is in a zip file ?
[20:19] <zykotick9> crawln: you are missing a do in there
[20:19] <crawln> for i in *.mkv; do avconv -i "$i" -codec copy ${file%.mp4} ; done?
[20:19] <crawln> i was more worried about the correct placing of the file%
[20:19] <ultreia> disharmonic- did these problems begin when you switched from one WM to the other?
[20:20] <disharmonic> ultreia, no. I see some mesa packages in my dpkg log, which is weird
[20:21] <jrib> crawln: not exactly.
[20:22] <jrib> crawln: put an "echo" before your "avconv" and run what you have.  That way you will have the command printed and can understand what is wrong
[20:23] <ultreia> disharmonic- I am sorry, I have no definite ideas. Perhaps a reinstall of kde?
[20:23] <rubiconjosh> Anyone running multiple monitors have success with making notifications appear on a monitor that is not the right-most display?
[20:23] <crawln> i understand it's not copying the file name
[20:24] <tdignan> How do I sync photos to an iphone? I'm a noob when it comes to apple stuff. Just copying the files via USB mass storage doesn't seem to make them accessible via the photo gallery
[20:24] <jrib> crawln: well for one, your variable is $i, not $file
[20:24] <tdignan> is there any tool for linux I can use to import them
[20:25] <crawln> figures i wouldn't see that lol
[20:25] <tdignan> to clarify, I didn't buy this iphone. It was given to me and I need it for a job. I personally wouldn't go out of my way to buy one :P
[20:25] <tdignan> it'd be a great phone if it ran linux instead.
[20:25] <tdignan> :D
[20:26] <jrtappers> tdignan, can itunes run on WINE?
[20:26] <tdignan> maybe
[20:26] <tdignan> i guess i'll just reboot into windows and use itunes
[20:26] <ultreia> tdignan- http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115286-233.html#!
[20:26] <tdignan> ultreia: nice
[20:27] <tdignan> when I googled i didn't find anything this good. thanks
[20:27] <_methods> try floola
[20:27] <Kjubert> i tried it  - iTunes doesnt work on wine. i dont use iTunes, but i had to fix the iPod of a friend and ran into that problem...
[20:27] <_methods> oops nm you said linux
[20:27] <jrtappers> How do I set grub to default to the last booted OS?
[20:27] <tdignan> wait no
[20:28] <tdignan> i's another article from 2008
[20:28] <tdignan> 5 year old instructions are not for me
[20:28] <disharmonic> ultreia, i think mesa got pulled by the Update manager and overwrote some AMD libs. Since i'm using a custom fglrx package apt probably doesn't have the mesa stuff as conflicting with fglrx
[20:28] <tdignan> it says nothing about photos, either.
[20:28] <ultreia> do those instructions no longer work?
[20:28] <_methods> tdignan: try floola
[20:28] <_methods> it works on linux now
[20:29] <disharmonic> ok time to test my theory
[20:29] <crawln> haha
[20:29]  * crawln does a happy dance
[20:30] <trism> tdignan: don't know about the iphone but for my ipad I just plug it in and use: gphoto2 -P; to copy it to the current directory
[20:30] <trism> tdignan: I imagine you could use anything that uses that lib
[20:30] <crawln> thanks jr
[20:30] <crawln> that helped alot
[20:31] <crawln> didn't realize i needed to go ${file%.mkv}.mp4 lol
[20:31] <jrib> crawln: yep
[20:32] <crawln> kept trying ${file%}.mp4
[20:32] <crawln> was like wth lol
[20:32] <Kjubert> I have a question: is the Ubuntu-Software-Center generally downloading .deb-files for installing software? Because for some software you cant find deb-packages for download online and i would like to gather these by copying possible temporary deb-packages the software-center is using. is there a way??
[20:32] <crawln> thanks man appreciated
[20:32] <jrib> crawln: you might be interested in http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Parameters
[20:32] <crawln> thanks
[20:34] <Pici> Kjubert: the software center is just a wrapper around apt-get, it downloads and installs debs. They're all available in our repositories and you can download them manually with your browser if you want too.
[20:35] <g16_> Kjubert: look into /var/cache/apt/archives
[20:37] <Kjubert> aahh... i knew the s.center was a frontend for apt. but i didn't know the repository is accessible by web interface. thanks, i just found it!
[20:37] <dinar2> hello. though my user is in plugdev, cannot write in ntfs!
[20:38] <ultreia> dinar2- is it using ntfs-3g?
[20:38] <TeckyJ> sorry hey just checking to make sure i have this irc thing working ^^;
[20:38] <Bsims> dinar2: who owns the mountpoint... ran into that
[20:40] <crawln> dinar2 one of the things i had to do is make a symlink to the folder under my home folder
[20:40] <crawln> to get deluge to be able to make folders and put files in the folders
[20:40] <dinar2> thank you
[20:40] <crawln> it wouldn't do it under /mount/folder/{new folder}
[20:40] <dinar2> that is strange, i ll try
[20:40] <disharmonic> well this is frustrating.
[20:41] <crawln> it worked for me was having issues with flexget pushing new folder commands to deluge
[20:41] <crawln> after making the symlink it worked
[20:41] <crawln> because the ntfs drive is all root:root
[20:41] <crawln> least with my system
[20:41] <crawln> and changing permissions on the folders didn't take on the ntfs drive
[20:42] <crawln> probably because of the way it mounts to the system
[20:42] <Bsims> crawln: why not just start your file manager as root
[20:42] <tdignan> thanks to everyone who helped. booting into the dark side to sync the iphone :)
[20:42] <antonio_> ciaoooooooooo
[20:42] <crawln> because it wasn't the file manager doing it
[20:42] <tdignan> one more thing I will leave you with
[20:42] <antonio_> hellooooooooooooooo
[20:42] <crawln> it was deluge getting issued the command from flexget
[20:42] <tdignan> it is sometimes OK to use evil to fight evil
[20:42] <tdignan> Apple is worse than microsoft in every way
[20:42] <faLUCE> Hi, I can't resize a window of a program run under wine. The lower right corner is outside the bottom of the desktop. what can I do?
[20:42] <tdignan> they are the real enemy
[20:43] <tdignan> bye
[20:43] <antonio_> list?
[20:43] <crawln> set the windows sized in the wine config
[20:43] <crawln> think winetricks will do it for you
[20:43] <crawln> i use playonlinux
[20:43] <crawln> with it's pretty ui :P
[20:44] <ultreia> disharmonic- no success?
[20:46] <dinar2> crawln linking helped, thank you
[20:47] <crawln> dinar2: it works because the mount is under usually /media/(mount) which you don't own
[20:47] <crawln> by bypassing the /media/ you go straight to the server
[20:47] <fredbulah> need help with udev rules ... is this the right room? ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-development better?
[20:48] <fredbulah> hello all
[20:48] <fidel> !ask | fredbulah
[20:49] <crawln> !answer | fidel
[20:49] <crawln> aww
[20:49] <crawln> it needs to say answer the question :P
[20:49] <crawln> that would be awesome :P
[20:49] <fidel> crawln: well there is no question so far as i can see ;)
[20:50] <crawln> fidel: yeah but it would still be cool
[20:51] <antonio_> list??????
[20:51] <antonio_> hellloooooooooo
[20:52] <ultreia> antonio_ - this is not a file sharing site
[20:52] <DJones> !list > antonio_
[20:52] <disharmonic> finally
[20:52] <NielsMkn> hello
[20:52] <ultreia> disharmonic- what was the problem?
[20:53] <disharmonic> Looks like enabling tear free desktop did the trick. Or rather it seems to have worked around the issue as my mouse still disappears if i leave it static
[20:53] <disharmonic> ultreia, see above
[20:54] <NielsMkn> I have a small problem. I'm trying to install flareget on ubuntu 10.04 but I get an error as it requires libqt4-network (version >= 4.4.8)
[20:54] <fredbulah> connecting a usb hub with 3 flash drives only fires a udev rule [which creates a separate mount point for each usb device] once. all 3 devices get mounted but the affected udev rule fires only once, was expecting it to fire once per device. is this a problem or is this working as designed?
[20:54] <ultreia> disharmonic- strange about the mouse pointer
[20:55] <disharmonic> ultreia, my guess is Vsync refereshes the ui very fast but not the nouse pointer. It's not really an issue though. When i move it it imediatly reappears
[20:56] <antonio_> hellllooooooooooooo
[20:56] <ultreia> disharmonic- does kde have that thing with the eyes that point to the mouse pointer?
[20:57] <NielsMkn> erm any idea how to fix this?
[20:59] <crawln> NielsMkn: sudo apt-get update?
[21:00] <NielsMkn> tried that, it seems that lib qt4-network max version for ubuntu 10.04 is only 4.4.6
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> iqs this antonio a bot?
[21:00] <Pici> NielsMkn: I don't see flareget in any of the Ubuntu repositories.
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> !find flareget
[21:01] <UltraParadigm> Can anyone point me in the right direction.  My soundcard (Soundblaster Audigy SE)  isn't listed when I do "cat /proc/asound/cards"
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  consider upgrading to 12.04 or 12.10
[21:01] <NielsMkn> http://www.flareget.net16.net/
[21:02] <NielsMkn> MonkeyDust: but I don't want to work with unity :(
[21:02] <crawln> yeah the default on 12.04 is 4.4.8.1
[21:02] <Pici> NielsMkn: You don't need to use unity.
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  you don't have to, install a different DE and use that, fallback is very similar to gnome2
[21:02] <ThinkT510> NielsMkn: you dont have to, there is kde, xfce, enlightenment, lxde
[21:02] <Bsims> NielsMkn: I'd suggest xfce... its rather nice
[21:04] <crawln> so would everything go boom if you installed a deb package from precise on lucid?
[21:04] <NielsMkn> Darn
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  this is what gnome3 fallback looks like http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fpdM3UOam3Y/TzW6lrA9yNI/AAAAAAAAHuQ/5Wf9Xum-oxQ/s1600/ubuntu12.04-classic-session.png
[21:04] <ThinkT510> crawln: never mix different version packages
[21:04] <F3Speech> Anyone tell me how to 'fix' my putty client in ubunut. Running in windows I can copy and paste into my putty term windows, in ubuntu I cant :( makes using the term alot slower.
[21:04] <NielsMkn> MonkeyDust: gnome3 fallback is stable?
[21:05] <crawln> was wondering that myself F3Speech lol
[21:05] <crawln> never cared though just ssh'd in a term
[21:05] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- the sb audigy se has been supported under alsa using driver ca106, just not very well, many driver errors
[21:05] <F3Speech> crawln: im wondering if thats the way to go, putty is handy though
[21:06] <crawln> F3Speech: well i found that after puttying the ssh key's on the server a terminal was faster
[21:06] <crawln> F3Speech: seeing as putty requires the puttykeyring thing
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> crawln: you can may the ssh server not use DNS too, makes login faster
[21:07] <F3Speech> not noticed the keyring tbh, guess ill lookup the connection string for term then
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  it's just a different 'skin' for ubuntu
[21:07] <crawln> ActionParsnip: yeah well i've only been using it for 2 days learning alot though
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> crawln: best way to learn is to use it :)
[21:08] <ultreia> NielsMkn- kde is an old standard
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: how is it old?
[21:08] <NielsMkn> MonkeyDust: well I'm reading about it on google and some people are saying that applets like battery indicator etc didn't work properly on ubuntu 11.10
[21:08] <crawln> F3Speech: yeah i just put the ssh key on then ssh blah.com lol
[21:09] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- because kde has been around for a long time
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> NielsMkn  people complain about anything - and i mean *anything*
[21:09] <crawln> I'm thinking of trying cinnamon but not sure
[21:09] <crawln> right now i just use stock unity
[21:09] <ThinkT510> crawln: cinnamon isn't supported here
[21:09] <crawln> lol
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: its only 1 year older than gnome
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> crawln  it's beautiful but buggy, i tried it for a few days, then deleted it
[21:10] <crawln> yeah a friend had it on his comp
[21:10] <crawln> was removed a few days later
[21:10] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- they have both been around for a long time
[21:10] <crawln> said if it ever gets polished it'll be nice
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: I know, just wondered where you got 'old standard' from
[21:11] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- "old standard"/ old favorites, as compared to xfce for example
[21:11] <UltraParadigm> If "cat /proc/asound/cards" doesn't list my sound card, what can I do?
[21:11] <Triups> I need help with channel bonding.  I have followed tutorials that show different ways and keep failing.  Should I be using bond-master or bond-slave?  Should I be using LACP on my cisco switch or no?
[21:12] <NielsMkn> alright thanks, gtg now later
[21:12] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- that means no driver recognizes your card. you can only get a different kind of sound card
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: favourite is an opinion. xfce was started in 1996, just like gnome
[21:13] <ultreia> ActionParsnip- xfce must have been little used in 1996, it was unheard of then
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> ultreia: possibly
[21:14] <UltraParadigm> Ultreia: is that because I installed in after installing Ubuntu?  Maybe alsa needed to compile with it or something?    Grasps at straws
[21:15] <martinalex> abend...
[21:15] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- no. you can normally install sound cards after installing linux
[21:16] <chudler> Hello. Is there a way we can test d-i partman recipes "offline" outside of the installer? Currently I develop them and don't know exactly what is going to happen until build-time.
[21:16] <martinalex> i have a problem with xfig... it doesnt use german umlauts
[21:16] <chudler> AFAICT there's not even an installable partman package.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> martinalex: are there any bugs reported?
[21:18] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- sometimes Ceative Labs makes soundblaster cards with the same name but different chipsets, and sometimes the companies that make OEM versions of Ceative cards will do things like changing the pci ids or the eeprom contents. For whatever reason, you appear to be out of luck with this particular audigy se
[21:19] <martinalex> ActionParsnip: didnt find the bugtracker... but this problem seems to be usual
[21:20] <ThinkT510> !launchpad | martinalex
[21:21] <martinalex> ThinkT510: this bug is not reported in launchpad
[21:22] <martinalex> i thought of an official xfig bugtracker... i dont know if there is such a thing
[21:22] <opalepatrick> when I get a system error in unity 12.10 I get a winodw popping up to report the problem,. I say yes, give password and then it disappears and comes back for a repeat three times or so. Any clues?
[21:23] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- I once long ago had a SB live made by Dell, it would work in windows but not in linux. I later got a SB live made by Creative, and it worked in both. Both cards looked the same and had the same pci id, but they did not function equally
[21:23] <opalepatrick> Doesnt seem to report - also cant work out what is broken
[21:23] <jhutchins> UltraParadigm: It would be unusual for an audigy to be completely undetected.
[21:23] <jhutchins> UltraParadigm: Does lspci show it?  lspci -nn and give us the numerical ID.
[21:24] <n-iCe> is ubuntu phone os available for download?
[21:24] <ThinkT510> !phone | n-iCe
[21:24] <UltraParadigm> No, I'm thinking either I'm an idiot and didn't put it down correctly, or tiger sent me a defective one.
[21:24] <jhutchins> UltraParadigm: Does not show in lspci?
[21:25] <ultreia> UltraParadigm- did you not say it worked in windows 7?
[21:26] <martinalex> there should be a  possibility to get umlaute via the compose key - but it doesnt work for me either
[21:27] <UltraParadigm> jhutchins:  no, the only audio device it shows is the hdmi output for my video card.  It's not there at all, My onboard also isn't there, but I disabled that in bios so that makes since.
[21:28] <jrib> martinalex: ü (compose doublequote u)
[21:29] <k1l> !away > dniMretsaM
[21:29] <martinalex> jrib: but which key is compose usually and why does it seem to work and in the end its a and not
[21:29] <martinalex> the umlaut ä i wanted to write...
[21:29] <jrib> martinalex: depends on your layout.  Check your keyboard configuration
[21:29] <UltraParadigm> jhutchins: I'm going to go open the box again and reseat the card.
[21:29] <jhutchins> Yeah, I would.
[21:30] <jhutchins> Hopefully with the power off.
[21:30] <Triups> could someone direct me to some proper documentation for linux channel bonding.  There seems to be amess of misinformation out there
[21:31] <Bsims> Triups: try #linux or maybe debian, they tend to be more useful on server type questions
[21:31] <ThinkT510> Triups: perhaps someone in ##linux might help
[21:32] <Triups> ty
[21:32] <ultreia> jhutchins0 hopefully he or she will realize "power off" means "power cord disconnected" on atx and newer systems
[21:35] <martinalex> jrib: i did check my keyboard settings and the configurations works in every program except xfig - it writes constantly "a instead of ä... (and it has the correct behavior for the compose key as æ can be written in xfig
[21:38] <jrib> martinalex: http://www.xfig.org/userman/drawing.html#compose-char
[21:40] <martinalex> jrib: thanks a lot! i tried to write symbols in the reverse order... the way it is usual in latex...
[21:40] <jrib> martinalex: yes, xfig seems to do something weird...
[21:41] <anthony__> can anyone here help me with a wired connection problem with ubuntu 11.10?
[21:42] <ultreia> it shouldn't take this long to reseat a card, I hope they have nroken thir machine
[21:42] <disharmonic> ultreia, i'm in Unity currently
[21:42] <ThinkT510> anthony__: you should consider upgrading, 11.10 support ends in april
[21:43] <sagiet> help
[21:43] <sagiet> !help
[21:43] <sagiet> how to get chanel list
[21:43] <froek>  /list
[21:44] <anthony__> i know. but i had 12.1 and it was all messed up. thats why i had to go back to 11.10. also i cant upgrade if i cant connect to the internet
[21:44] <ultreia> there are thousands of channels on freenode
[21:44] <froek> you can even find them on the web for freenode
[21:45] <elena-IK> are there remote controls that work well on ubuntu, with little configuration? I want to remote control media players (vlc mostly), but I can't get any of my remotes (IR and bluetooth) to work right with LIRC. or is there some kind of config gui for lirc? are there alternatives to LIRC?
[21:45] <froek> sagiet: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode
[21:45] <sagiet> tnx
[21:45] <froek> np
[21:45] <ultreia> anthony__ = can you descrobe the symptoms of your wired connection problem?
[21:46] <rubiconjosh> Anyone running multiple monitors able to get notifications to appear on a monitor other than the right-most one?
[21:46] <wiggmpk> When I view my movies on my NAS device via Samba / Workgroup in Nautilus, I have some file names that are totally different than what appears when I view the directory via FTP. What could cause this?
[21:47] <jhutchins> wiggmpk: you mean they have different filenames?  Different sizes?
[21:47] <sagiet> How du i get cmd list
[21:47] <wiggmpk> jhutchins: different file names, like drastically different too
[21:47] <anthony__> @ultreia: yeah just a sec. im on my amdroid tablet so itll take time to type it out
[21:47] <jhutchins> wiggmpk: Like Windows Shortnames?
[21:48] <ThinkT510> sagiet: ask in #freenode for irc help
[21:48] <jhutchins> sagiet: What client?
[21:48] <sagiet> xchat/gnome
[21:48] <wiggmpk> jhutchins: I haven't considered that, but I would say no
[21:48] <sagiet> whant to know basic.. comand
[21:49] <jhutchins> wiggmpk: Could be a matter of permissions and you're seeing different files.
[21:49] <rubiconjosh> sagiet, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=IRC+X-Chat+commands
[21:49] <sagiet> tnx
[21:49] <ThinkT510> rubiconjosh: don't use that site here please
[21:49] <ultreia> wiggmpk, could you share an example of the two names that one particular file has?
[21:50] <wiggmpk> jhutchins: ultreia I'll collect some more information quick, its on another network without internet access, gimme a moment.
[21:51] <sagiet> i found it /help
[21:51] <Noskcaj> is TRIM enabled by default in 12.10?
[21:52] <anthony__> it connected finenwhen i had 12.10. thats how i downloaded and reverted back to 11.10. everything it connected correctly. when i tryvtoconnect  it says that  its been disconnected ad that im offline. when i unplug the etho coord from the modem and back it it says the  same thing.  so it knows its theere it just wont connect
[21:53] <jhutchins> This is what comes from managing wired connections with a gui.
[21:54] <sagiet> Any one that can help width some css scripting.. want to re write from hover to mouse click
[21:55] <subcool> hey- ive been running into weird issues with ownership on my computer
[21:55] <Pici> subcool: ##css please, #ubuntu is just for Ubuntu support.
[21:55] <subcool> i have running -
[21:55] <Pici> subcool: sorry, mistab
[21:55] <subcool> k
[21:55] <sagiet> how do i do chanel changing
[21:55] <Pici> sagiet: /join #css please, #ubuntu is just for Ubuntu support.
[21:56] <ultreia> anthony__> what kind of modem do you have? (cable or dsl?)
[21:56] <hunnicutt> Hello
[21:56] <ProfessorBacon> blerp
[21:56] <hunnicutt> I have a question for developers, I imagine.
[21:56] <hunnicutt> I would like to compile nm-applet from source using the same command-line for "configure" used to compile with Ubuntu 12.04
[21:56] <subcool> i am running LiveUSB on my machine, and im mounting and moving files from my NTFS to an Ext3. I have mounted the Ext3, or im trying. It mounted under ROOT. ?? - now im trying to change owndership to user- and... im not sure how to.
[21:57] <wiggmpk1> jhutchins: ultreia: example, [REC] 3: Genesis.m4v (via FTP) _8PAM7~4.M4V (via nautilus/samba windows workgroup)
[21:57] <subcool> Being iam on a liveusb- it wont let me change the ownership to the normal user of the computer. but id' like for the folders to be atleast user permissions.
[21:57] <jhutchins> sagiet: http://xchat.org/faq/
[21:58] <hunnicutt> I have the nm-applet 0.9.4.1, fetched from git.  But I don't know how to build this for GTK-2, it seems to create a shared library which pulls in GTK 3
[21:58] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1564369/
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> subcool: look into chmod and chown :)
[21:58] <jhutchins> wiggmpk1: Look up "samba windows shortnames"
[21:58] <hunnicutt> ahh ubuntu-devel
[21:59] <anthony__> ultreia: can u help?
[21:59] <ProfessorBacon> i need help with my aquarium.  my fish have ICH and they are dying.
[21:59] <subcool> ActionParsnip, i am- sudo chown subcool /media/Ext3Storage/
[21:59] <ultreia> anthony__> what kind of modem do you have? (cable or dsl?)
[21:59] <subcool> ActionParsnip, i have invalid user.
[21:59] <wiggmpk1> jhutchins: thanks mate
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> subcool: is subcool your username?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> subcool: you may have to boot to the Ubuntu OS to chown as your user
[22:00] <anthony__> ultreia: dsl. it worked fine before i went to 11.10. iv tried restarting the modem and computer. but it didnt do anything to help
[22:00] <subcool> ActionParsnip, cant i just chown "default user"
[22:00] <atrius> did ubuntu switch to the embedded glibc by default a while back?
[22:01] <subcool> ActionParsnip, instead of using a user name, i can just change the permssion manually? like 777 or something right?
[22:01] <ultreia> anthony__> ok. Is your dsl modem pppoe or bridging?
[22:01] <jhutchins> anthony__: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-lan.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> subcool: is subcool the first user you made in Ubuntu?
[22:01] <subcool> ActionParsnip,  yeah,
[22:02] <jhutchins> subcool: You have to chown to a specific user.
[22:02] <subcool> ActionParsnip, for giggles i can just copy it as root- im just trying to learn and fix it.
[22:02] <subcool> jhutchins, oh- ok.
[22:02] <jhutchins> !perissions
[22:02] <jhutchins> !permissions
[22:02] <riccardone> I've already put down a network ... It's incredible, the sysadmin of today are very unqulified
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> subcool: if you run:  id | grep uid    what is the ID of the user in the liveUSB?
[22:02] <subcool> remotedk or something
[22:04] <jhutchins> subcool: Have a look at that link before deciding how you want to go about it.
[22:04] <riccardone> a little scan with nmap et voilà :), but I've warned him, a little message on his printer, like afilm
[22:04] <riccardone> wow! applause for Riccardone :)
[22:04] <subcool> k- thanks..!
[22:05] <sisto67> e
[22:06] <anthony__> ultriea: i think pppoe. but idk
[22:07] <ultreia> anthony__> if it is pppoe, then you must login with some sirt of username and password
[22:08] <anthony__> well then its not that. because i never had to do that before
[22:10] <CuteGuy1> Hey there. I'm trying to rip some DVDs using an old IDE DVD burner hooked into an USB external enclosure. Yet my system does not mount the DVD, eve if lsusb does recognize the usb. How can I rip the DVDs? Is there any workaround to mount the DVD? Thanks in advance...
[22:10] <ultreia> anthony__> if it's not pppoe, all I can think of is that you should never try to downgrade, it breaks everything
[22:11] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: What's on the DVDs?
[22:11] <cjae> is this for real? what will happen if I try to use the drivers for 10.10 on 12.10           http://www.hidpoint.com/hidpoint/download.html
[22:11] <MonkeyDust> CuteGuy1  do you know how to manually mount a device?
[22:11] <ultreia> cjae, don't do it
[22:12] <cjae> ultreia: why
[22:12] <CuteGuy1> jhuchins: on the DVD I got dvd files. It is not an audio DVD nor a data DVD
[22:12] <anthony__> well i did a complete unintall/reinstall. could it just be a driver that wasnt installed when 11.10 was being installed?
[22:13] <CuteGuy1> monkeydust: I do not know how to manually mount.
[22:13] <yeats> cjae: it won't be supported here in any case - if that's not reason enough, I would expect system breakage and dependency problems
[22:13] <ultreia> cjae- because the drivers for 10.10 are a different kernel version, and you will likely end up with a non-booting system, or a crippled system if you are lucky
[22:13] <ThinkT510> !mount | CuteGuy1
[22:13] <CuteGuy1> jhutchins: on the DVD I got dvd files. It is not an audio DVD nor a data DVD
[22:13] <CuteGuy1> Thanks a lot Thinkt510 and ubottu!
[22:14] <akSeya> hello
[22:14] <CuteGuy1> Oh, Ubottu is the bot, I get it...
[22:14] <jhutchins> cjae: Given that they appear to have different downloads for each release, they're probably compiled for a specific kernel and won't work with a different one.  You could always try it.
[22:14] <akSeya> is there something wrong with irc.freenode.net?
[22:14] <akSeya> xchat just cant connect to it
[22:14] <yeats> !freenod | akSeya
[22:14] <ThinkT510> akSeya: you are on it now
[22:14] <yeats> !freenode
[22:14] <jhutchins> cjae: It's unlikely to cripple your system, but also unlikely to work
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> CuteGuy1  sudo fdisk -l #to know the dvd drive -- mkdir blah -- sudo mount /dev/sxxx blah
[22:15] <akSeya> yeah but i'm on webchat
[22:15] <CuteGuy1> Thanks a lot MonkeyDust, I'll try that right away!
[22:15] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: You don't want to mount it.
[22:15] <akSeya> xchat tries to conneect to irc.freenode.net (32.1.6.176) port 6667...
[22:15] <danley> Hi, I have a problem with my time. ntp is enabled, the timezone is set correctly in the system settings but my time is always 1 hour ahead.
[22:15] <akSeya> but time expires
[22:15] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: Something like mplayer or vlc should be able to play it.
[22:15] <Miebster> Where is a good place to ask about netcat?
[22:16] <CuteGuy1> I did try with vlc and failed, But I will try mplayer. Thanks a lot jhutchings
[22:16] <jhutchins> !dvd | CuteGuy1
[22:16] <akSeya> any idea on what can I do to test out what the problem is?
[22:17] <akSeya> i can't ping irc.freenode.net either
[22:17] <ThinkT510> akSeya: why .net shouldn't it be .org
[22:17] <CuteGuy1> jhutchins thanks a lot. It is not a commercial DVD, its some homevideo burn in a DVD with the DVD folder structure and such
[22:17] <Paradigm|2> Ok, so I got my sound card sorted out, thank yoU!
[22:17] <ThinkT510> !yay | Paradigm|2
[22:17] <CuteGuy1> I need to rip the video to a video file...
[22:18] <Paradigm|2> It turns out that since I build the PC, the motherboard and the case are playing tug-of-war with my pci cards
[22:18] <akSeya> damn
[22:18] <Paradigm|2> when I screwed in the back plate the pin all popped out. heh
[22:19] <akSeya> ThinkT510, I could swear it was .net
[22:19] <ThinkT510> akSeya: i'm on .org right now
[22:19] <akSeya> yeah, with .org it worked
[22:19] <wjtaylor_> My cursor jumps randomly. I have a touchscreen (Dell XT2). How do I correct?  Just calibrate?
[22:19] <jhutchins> CuteGuy1: I think the encoding is still restricted and requires special codecs.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[22:20] <_jeremy_> !libdvdcss2
[22:20] <wjtaylor_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[22:21] <CuteGuy1> Thanks a lot jhutchins
[22:22] <ultreia> anthony__> has your machine ever worked with 11.10 in the past?
[22:23] <dsaj> what is the command to see how much memory is available to download?
[22:23] <dpurgert> dsaj, like how much free hdd space you have?
[22:23] <fidel> dsaj: 'free' to show ram/memorg // 'df' for space
[22:24] <anthony__> ultriea:. yes. thats y i came back to this version. cause it worked awesome before
[22:25] <dsaj> thank you
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: got the latest BIOS?
[22:25] <ultreia> anthony__> so if this 11.10 was installed clean, something else must have changed, like your cabling or your outdoor connection.
[22:25] <wjtaylor_> yes
[22:25] <wjtaylor_> ActionParsnip: ^^
[22:26] <wjtaylor_> It's not doing it much, and didn't start doing it until I started using the touchscreen.
[22:26] <wjtaylor_> just enough to be annoying
[22:27] <dsaj> I need to remove some packages to gain hdd space, how can I see the list of installed packages?
[22:27] <ultreia> /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:27] <fidel> dsaj: dpkg -l
[22:27] <dsaj> thank you fidel
[22:27] <dsaj> and ultreia
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> wjtaylor_: are there bugs reported?
[22:28] <wjtaylor_> not sure, but I have another bug for the team as well... might as well look for it on launchpad...
[22:28] <anthony__> no change. except the ip. but other than that still dsl modem
[22:29] <funky> hi guys, I'mtrying to set up a set of laptops for the students to use. The school's wifi uses a automatic proxy to connect to the internet. Is there any way to save the proxy setting for the guest account to use? It seems like the settings are reset after each session.
[22:29] <ultreia> anthony__> different internet provider?
[22:30] <anthony__> nope. same one. same model modem. same computer. is there a way to check thr drivers t see if there all ther and working?
[22:31] <jhutchins> anthony__: DId you look at those links I posted earlier?
[22:31] <ultreia> anthony__> I can think of one solution, but it would cost a small amount of money. Instead of directly connecting to the modem, obtain a cheap dsl-router and let it do all the work
[22:32] <jhutchins> ultreia: That's really going the wrong way for a simple connection.  He just needs to diagnose the problem and figure out what the cause is.  If it worked with 11.10 it'll work with 12.
[22:34] <anthony__> yes i did but i didnt see any thing that might fix it. and wats the difference between a modem and router. i might have them mixed up
[22:34] <ultreia> jhutchins- from what Anthony says, it used to work great under 11.10, not so great under 12.x, but after cleanly reinstalling 11.10, it no longer works. something is wrong
[22:38] <jhutchins> ultreia: So troubleshoot it.  ifconfig, route, dmesg, syslog, etc.
[22:43] <anthony__> i id
[22:44] <anthony__> i did ifconfig but idk wat it means
[22:46] <ultreia> anthony__ > I must be going for the night, jhutchins and the others sound capable to help you
[22:47] <anthony__> jhutchins: can u help me
[22:48] <Miebster> I have an application creating a connection to the local host on a specefic port.  I can't change how this app launches or how it connects to localhost.  I have an app that is listening for a connection on that port.  The problem is that app has to be ran on a different machine.  How can I setup something that listens for that port on my local host, and sends it to the other machine, (and the other direction too)
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[22:52] <Schumi23`> Were is a place I can go to report bugs on Ubuntu
[22:53] <jhutchins> anthony__: I can if you'll look at the troubleshooting links I posted earlier.
[22:53] <Schumi23`> (ie: The equivalent of Bugzilla with Mozilla)
[22:53] <jhutchins> anthony__:  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-lan.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25557
[22:53] <anthony__> can anyone help me with my wired network issue
[22:54] <raven_> hey guys, could anyone help me with my amd drivers? i dont know the difference between the 12.6 legacy driver and the 13.1 proprietary driver
[22:55] <jhutchins> anthony__: I would start out by looking at dmesg and at /var/log/syslog after cycling the connection and see what they say is happening.
[22:55] <raven_> like.. whats legacy mean >.<
[22:56] <raven_> hey again jhutchins
[22:56] <jhutchins> legacy usually means that the hardware is discontinued.
[22:57] <bianca> oh..
[22:57] <bianca> well yesterday i installed the  propriatary ones and i got that 32bits library error?
[23:01] <bianca> i reinstalled ubuntu and now i have the same issue as last time when i try to install the graphics drivers, fglrx installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/3.5.0-22-generic/build/include/linux/version.h
[23:01] <ademone> hello there
[23:01] <qr> bianca: so install the kernel headers, what's the problem?
[23:02] <ademone> i have a problem with my external HDD
[23:02] <bianca> i dont know how to do that..
[23:02] <ademone> i can not mount it
[23:02] <dsaj> when I attempt to remove a file, I get "no space left on device" error http://pastebin.com/aUSFBfMk how do I suppose to free space?
[23:02] <qr> bianca: they're in the repositories, I forget the exact name but if you google 'ubuntu install kernel headers' I'm sure you'll find it
[23:03] <k1l> bianca: with install drivers you mean you donwloaded smth from an internet site?
[23:03] <ademone> the gparted cant recognise the file system
[23:03] <dpurgert> dsaj, what's the output of df -k . ?
[23:03] <bianca> yeah
[23:03] <k1l> bianca: why dont you use that driver that comes with ubuntu?
[23:04] <jhutchins> dsaj: Delete or move files
[23:04] <dsaj> dpurgert: http://pastebin.com/3BqkWwLC
[23:04] <k1l> bianca: the ubuntu drivers are already made fit into the ubuntu. so they are to prefer
[23:04] <dpurgert> ouch
[23:04] <dsaj> jhutchins: I try apt-get remove vi for example, but I get the same error
[23:04] <bianca> what driver?
[23:05] <bianca> without any drivers like right now, even moving windows is laggy..
[23:05] <dpurgert> dsaj, you'll need to delete or move stuff (not vi, or programs ... saved stuff)
[23:05] <dpurgert> clear your trash, delete temporary files or old files that you've since revised
[23:06] <k1l> bianca: ubuntu has the amd driver in their software repositories
[23:06] <dpurgert> or move stuff off to a different drive (e.g. a USB drive or a second hdd)
[23:06] <k1l> bianca: there is no need to download anything from the internetsites when its included in ubuntu
[23:06] <dsaj> dpurgert: thank you
[23:06] <bianca> oh.. i tend not to get things though the software center because most things are out of date >_<
[23:06] <jhutchins> dsaj: DELET FILES, not remove packages.  Delete files from your homedir (that you KNOW what they are), delete files from /tmp
[23:06] <compdoc> AMD just released a new driver I hear
[23:06] <shwaiil> hi
[23:06] <k1l> bianca: newer ist not better
[23:07] <bianca> okay.. ill try it
[23:07] <bianca> im installing the linux hears though :)
[23:07] <harta_>  I am stuck on Setting up python2.7-minimal (2.7.1-5ubuntu2.2) ... when updating through terminal
[23:07] <bianca> headers*
[23:07] <shwaiil> Q: I made a change in .bashrc and now I can't run any command in the terminal, can't access the .bashrc so dont know what to do, any help pls ? tks
[23:07] <anthony__> @jhutchinson: i did ifconfig and puched in the info from there into the network connections gui. now its alternating connected and disconnected
[23:07] <k1l> bianca: as you know from last time the new shiny amd driver from that site it didnt work. so do you want a newest one that doesnt work a good one from ubuntu?
[23:07] <dpurgert> dsaj, yeah /tmp is a good one to kill ... you can also go into firefox/chrome and kill the temp files/cookies (i forget where they hide ... is it $HOME/.mozilla (or .chrom[e|ium] ... or something like that)
[23:08] <bianca> actually i think i installed like 3 last time xD
[23:08] <ademone> i have a problem with my external HDD
[23:08] <oneseventeen> anyone have tips on partitioning a 3TB seagate drive from the command line?
[23:08] <ademone> the gparted cant recognise the file system
[23:08] <ademone> please help me, i dont want to lose my files
[23:08] <yeats> shwaiil: what happens when you try to run a command?
[23:08] <compdoc> the amd proprietory drivers included with sometimes dont work
[23:08] <k1l> bianca: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line
[23:09] <yeats> ademone: why are you using gparted if you're trying to preserve files?
[23:09] <dpurgert> oneseventeen, depends -- how familiar are you with command line and formatting disks ... and is there anything "important" on the drive?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> oneseventeen: could use parted or fdisk
[23:09] <ademone> because i wanted to mount it but it cant be
[23:10] <dpurgert> ademone, why can't you mount it?
[23:10] <ademone> please tell me
[23:10] <ademone> how?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ademone: your backups will maintain data integrity
[23:11] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, what's ademone trying to do here?  I don't follow his line of enquiry ... also cue "backups?"
[23:11] <bianca> 'The easiest way to install binary drivers is to use the built in Hardware Drivers manager in Ubuntu. ' i dont have hardware drivers..
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> dpurgert: mount a usb partition
[23:11] <shwaiil> yeats: tks for looking, "Is not included in the PATH environment variable" its like the bashrc is just break
[23:11] <yeats> ademone: so you're using gparted how? from the Ubuntu liveCD or from a gparted live CD?
[23:11] <k1l> bianca: its called jockey
[23:12] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, uh ... forgive my fail at USB ... but doesn't Ubuntu just mount them into /media by default?
[23:12] <ademone> i installed it on my ubuntu
[23:12] <yeats> shwaiil: can you pastebin the full error and share the link?
[23:12] <yeats> ademone: okay, so you're working with it live?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> dpurgert: it can, ntfs not ejected properly can have issues. depends if best practice has been followed
[23:12] <yeats> ademone: meaning, you installed it on your system and you're running it on the same system?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> ademone: installed what>?
[23:12] <bianca> i dont have that either, um is 12.10 called ringtail?
[23:13] <bianca> raring ringtail*?
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: 13.04 is ringtail
[23:13] <ademone> its at the software center
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: are you running 13.04?
[23:13] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, "Best Practice" ... um, not using NTFS? :) (I know ... )
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ademone: what did you install?
[23:13] <yeats> ademone: okay - let's back up... what are you trying to accomplish here?
[23:13] <bianca> no? i dont know what that is im running 12.10
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> bianca: thats Quantal
[23:13] <k1l> bianca: go to settings and then software-soures. there should be a last tab with additional drivers
[23:14] <dpurgert> yeats -- he apparently did something "bad" with a USB flash drive (didn't eject it properly?) and now it's misbehaving under his ubuntu install
[23:14] <shwaiil> yeats: http://pastebin.com/AV3hrYmW
[23:14] <harta_> i ran sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix a problem that occured during an interupted update and now it is stuck on Setting up python2.7-minimal (2.7.1-5ubuntu2.2) ...  this was my first update after OS installation
[23:14] <yeats> dpurgert: ah - thanks - I didn't realize he had shared anything previously
[23:15] <bianca> which one is better, proprietary or proprietary updates
[23:15] <shwaiil> yeats: I just added a new path to the .bashrc and this started happening I just need to find the file and delete the lines, but don't know how to show hiddne files through the GUI
[23:15] <histo> !better | bianca
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> "23:12 < ademone> i installed it on my ubuntu"    what does this mean?
[23:15] <bianca> lol..
[23:15] <dpurgert> yeats, yeah, I'm kinda getting it in pieces myself -- ActionParsnip clarified it for me
[23:15] <yeats> shwaiil: you can do '/usr/bin/vi <file>'
[23:15] <bianca> well how do i pick one
[23:16] <histo> bianca: under the settings manager there is a additional drivers applicaiton
[23:16] <ademone> ussualy when i plug my external HDD it mounts it automatically, but now it cant be mounted not even with the partition manager gparted, i tried sudo mount -a but no response, the partition manager cant recognise the file system
[23:16] <dpurgert> shwaiil, force it with /usr/bi... blast! beaten to it
[23:16] <yeats> dpurgert: :-D
[23:16] <bianca> yes im there, they are the same except one says updates at the end
[23:16] <subcool> how do i deteremine where grub is?
[23:16] <subcool> which partition
[23:16] <histo> ademone: does dmesg show that the drive is being seen
[23:16] <k1l> bianca: take the updates.
[23:16] <dpurgert> subcool, it's on the MBR of your HDD.
[23:16] <yeats> ademone: gparted is not the solution here, then
[23:17] <bianca> im guessing that means its one that recieves updates and the other doesnt?
[23:17] <ademone> with the sudo fdisk -l i can see it
[23:17] <dpurgert> yeats, it probably is ... just not in the way he hopes ...
[23:17] <anthony__> CAN ANYONE HELP WITH MY WIRED NETWORK PROBLEM. UBUNTU 11.10
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> anthony__: please kill the caps
[23:17] <dpurgert> anthony__, 1. stop yelling.  2. what's your problem?
[23:18] <subcool> dpurgert, ademone - yeah, i just formated my sda1 that had ntfs- and i want to make sure i have it backed up or something before i enter hell
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> ademone: see what?
[23:18] <dpurgert> um, you formatted the drive?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> ademone: what is 'it'?
[23:18] <subcool> dpurgert, partition
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ademone: when you last unplugged the drive, did you use the 'safely remove' feature in your OS?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ademone: or did you just unplug it
[23:20] <ademone> i cant remember, i think just an unplug, i havent use it for a long time
[23:20] <dpurgert> ah, misread :) ... the MBR is "outside" of the addressable /dev/sd[a-z][0-9] space
[23:20] <dpurgert> so you should be OK
[23:20] <iceroot> could someone please tell me what is the english string in nm-applet for ipv4 to send the hostname to dhcp. should be something like "dhcp client name"
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then you are mistreating your hardware
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ademone: is the file system NTFS ?
[23:20] <Schumi23`> Hi! Is there  a place to report bugs with Ubuntu? Like Bugzilla with Mozilla, but for Ubuntu?
[23:20] <ademone> propably sir, i am not sure
[23:20] <dpurgert> though you'll probably have a broken grub because there used to be something there (presumably, windows?)
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then this is especially important if you intend to use it in Ubuntu too
[23:21] <somnambulant> ademone: blkid /dev/sdxy
[23:21] <ademone> i am sure its not ex something
[23:21] <bean> Schumi23`: sure there is, but first you are going to want to be sure that it's a bug.
[23:21] <dpurgert> so go and run 'sudo update-grub' to make a new menu/bootloader
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ademone: shove the drive in a Windows PC, chkdsk the partition then in the bottom right, use the safely remove feature.
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ademone: you'll probably find it is then ok
[23:22] <ademone> i tried it but the windows says me to format it
[23:22] <iceroot> !bug | Schumi23`
[23:22] <dpurgert> iceroot,  nm-applet ... you mean network manager?
[23:22] <iceroot> dpurgert: yes
[23:23] <dpurgert> from what I can see, setting "Automatic (DHCP)" leaves no configuration options ...
[23:23] <ademone> should i try blkid /dev/sdb?
[23:23] <anthony__> iv been tryin to get help for an hour now. my computer wont connect to my network. its wired correctly and my internet works. ii cycled the power on both. didnt do anything
[23:23] <bianca> thanks guys :)
[23:23] <dpurgert> anthony__, what's the output of ifconfig ?
[23:23] <jhutchins> anthony__: Did you look at those links I sent you?
[23:24] <iceroot> dpurgert: its for an existing connecting inside the ipv4 tag
[23:24] <jhutchins> anthony__: Pretty sure it's been more than an hour.
[23:24] <dpurgert> iceroot, not really sure -- I edit configs manually ... um, lemme try digging around
[23:24] <jhutchins> dpurgert: Right, with DHCP all of the options are set from the server.
[23:25] <jhutchins> dpurgert: With a text-based config you can override some of them.
[23:25] <iceroot> dpurgert: i am facing a bug? that since 12.04 my system is not reporting the hostname to the router, so i cant use hostnames on my network, when i enter my hostname manually in that field its working, so i want to create a bug
[23:26] <bean> !bug | iceroot
[23:26] <dpurgert> iceroot, um, sounds more like an issue with your router having wrong (internal) DNS information than anything
[23:26] <iceroot> bean: yes i know...
[23:26] <iceroot> bean: read my text...
[23:26] <iceroot> dpurgert: how should my router get the dns information when the client is not sending them?
[23:26] <shwaiil> yeats: thanks it worked
[23:26] <steed> hello from Hellas
[23:27] <dpurgert> iceroot,  it would have it because it generates the DNS table when the host asks for an IP address lease
[23:27] <subcool> dpurgert, k- thanks..
[23:28] <yeats> shwaiil: great
[23:28] <dpurgert> subcool, um, what'd I do?
[23:28] <iceroot> dpurgert: hm ok, i thought the field http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/nm-applet.png  "DHCP CLient-Kennung" needs to be filled by default
[23:28] <iceroot> dpurgert: when doing it by hand as the screen shows, my router is showing the hostname instead of the ip for connected devices
[23:28] <anthony__> yes. im using 11.10. not 10.04. the output is a bunch of numbers and letters. i cant copy and paste cause im on my tablet
[23:28] <jhutchins> anthony__: You can read them.
[23:29] <bianca> arrrgh i love you guys
[23:29] <jhutchins> anthony__: Are you getting an ip4 address?
[23:29] <bianca> <3
[23:29] <subcool> dpurgert, you helped me understand MBR and grub
[23:29] <dpurgert> iceroot, that's a client identifier, not the system hostname (in theory ... could be the same I suppose ... like I said, I don't use network manager)
[23:29] <anthony__> im not typing thewhole thing out. its too much
[23:29] <k1l_> bianca: keep in mind, that searching in the ubuntu-repos is the first way to do.no donwloading anywhere :)
[23:30] <bean> anthony__: well, we have to have information to help.
[23:30] <jhutchins> bianca: You got it working?
[23:30] <bianca> :)
[23:30] <dpurgert> anthony__, do ifconfig | pastebinit (note, pastebin command might be misspelt)
[23:30] <bean> dpurgert: he doesn't have network... so that won't really work
[23:30] <bianca> yeah, hardware acceleration and everything :3
[23:30] <iceroot> dpurgert: i will have a look if there are known bugs for "fritzbox" because it was working some time ago then i changed my fritzbox and upgraded to 12.04 :)
[23:31] <ademone> anyone?
[23:31] <dpurgert> bean, I assumed (incorrectly it seems) that he was on the same machine, maybe wireless
[23:31] <anthony__> wat do u neet? the inet6 addr?
[23:31] <dpurgert> anthony__, are you using ipv6 across your network, or ipv4 ?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> ademone: if windows says to format it then the FAT may be damaged
[23:32] <iceroot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp/+bug/115426
[23:33] <ademone> can i do something? or i have to format the HDD
[23:33] <anthony__> ipv6 i think. but im not positive
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> ademone: i'd format it then restore data from backup
[23:33] <ademone> how
[23:34] <ademone> this disk is my backup
[23:34] <bean> anthony__: well, we can't really help without more info then... Can you like, even, take a picture of it and upload it somewhere?
[23:35] <jhutchins> bianca: What did you end up with that finally worked?
[23:35] <dpurgert> actually -- if you're using IPV4, you'll see both ... do you see one (e.g. 192.168.1.100, or 169.x.x.x)?
[23:36] <steed> nvidia drivers are necessary on ubuntu?
[23:36] <bean> steed: video drivers are necessary on any os
[23:36] <anthony__> i thought of a way. but itll take a couple minutes
[23:37] <steed> bean i use now the aytomatic drivers nuveau, nuveau are nvidia?
[23:37] <jhutchins> dpurgert: It's unlikely pastbinit will work if he doesn't have a network connection.
[23:37] <bianca> that additional drivers thing seems to really work, xD with the update driver, plus the hardware acceleration part near the bottom of this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_via_the_command_line
[23:37] <dpurgert> jhutchins, yeah ... figured he was making do with a (USB) wifi card ...
[23:37] <jhutchins> anthony__: If you're going to keep trying to do things other than answer the questions you're asked you're not going to get it fixed.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then format the device and then make a fresh backup (if the device is the backup then the original data still stands)
[23:38] <jhutchins> anthony__: You don't need to paste the output of the commands, you need to read and understand it.
[23:38] <bianca> although it did say it wasnt working after i first put them 2 lines in for the harware acceleration, but it was working after i restarted so :)
[23:38] <ademone> yeah but i have data that i dont have on my desktop
[23:38] <jhutchins> bianca: Great, now those of us who DON'T have nvida can pass that along!
[23:39] <ademone> at the external HDD i mean
[23:39] <jhutchins> ademone: Not if you formatted it.
[23:40] <iceroot> dpurgert: just for your info, its a fritzbox bug and an ubuntu bug, ubuntu is not sending the correct identifier and the fritzbox is then ignoring the complete hostname task https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dhcp/+bug/115426/comments/6
[23:40] <bianca> noo its amd :3
[23:40] <ademone> jhutchins: i cant understand
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> ademone: then you could use foremost to maybe get data back. You will need an equal amount of writable free space as foremost will spit all files out that it finds to the folder
[23:40] <bianca> oh >< nvm
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> ademone: you will also lost file names
[23:40] <anthony__> i understand most of it. but wat do i need this info for. what do i do with it
[23:41] <bean> anthony__: we just need to know if it has a valid address
[23:42] <bean> anthony__: what is the output of "ip addr"
[23:42] <anthony__> so wat do i need to do then
[23:42] <jhutchins> anthony__: Seeing if you have an address is the first step of seeing if you can connect.
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> ademone: foremost is not perfect, files may be damaged too, so you may only get halfimages etc.
[23:42] <jhutchins> anthony__: You still haven't answered the question of whether you have an ipv4 address.
[23:43] <ademone> ahh
[23:43] <blob4000> is this the right channel to ask about building a package (virtualbox-guest-additions-iso) from source, so that i can make a small change in the source before installing?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> ademone: I suggest you review your backup regime, it is clearly not appropriate
[23:44] <bean> anthony__: what is the output of "ip addr"
[23:44] <blob4000> i'm using apt-get source to get the package's source, i just want to know the next steps for working with the tar.gz source, making changes, and recompiling + installing
[23:44] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, I send the important stuff to FTP ;)
[23:44] <bean> i just dont back up anything
[23:44] <bean> and write all docs, etc, on google dos
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> bean: that'll bite you in the ass one day
[23:45] <bean> ActionParsnip: eh, i just try to keep everything important in the cloud
[23:45] <bean> aware that its bad practice though
[23:45] <ademone> thanx a lot
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> bean: thats a backup then :)
[23:45] <bean> is certainly not what I do at work
[23:45] <bean> :p
[23:45] <ademone> i propably will lose my files
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> bean: not bad practice, its pretty sweet
[23:45] <ademone> :(
[23:45] <dpurgert> ... trouble is, it doesn't seem to get mirrored anywhere :)  ... guess we can't all be good enough for that to happen
[23:45] <bean> ActionParsnip: certainly means more disk space for the disposable files
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> ademone: try foremost. you should run a better backup, you wouldn't have an issue then. that's what a backup is to prevent
[23:46] <anthony__> im lookin at "inet6" "hwaddr" those are the 2 addrresses from "ifconfig eth0". "ip addr" gives mostly the same
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> bean: I have about 1Gb of data in $HOME, the rest is on my file server
[23:47] <bean> makes sense
[23:47] <dpurgert> anthony__, is there an ipv4 address? (i.e. inet addr:192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or something)
[23:48] <wjtaylor_> anyone know of a util that will stress test my video card?
[23:49] <jhutchins> anthony__: You still haven't told us if you have an ipv4 address.
[23:49] <anthony__> no. just one with numbers and letters
[23:50] <jhutchins> anthony__: Ok, so we know at least that you don't have an address.
[23:50] <dpurgert> odd that you're running ipv6-only on a home network.  you have an IPV6-only address on the computer you're using to talk to us?
[23:50] <bean> dpurgert: he's on his tablet.
[23:51] <bean> anthony__: what happens when you type "dhclient eth0"
[23:51] <anthony__> i have inet6 nothin that looks like ipv4.
[23:51] <jhutchins> anthony__: Do you have link lights on the computer & the modem?
[23:51] <dpurgert> bean, tablet is still a computer, and shou... ohhhh, 3G?
[23:51] <bean> dpurgert: no, its just his computer can't get an address from the router over the wire, it sounds like
[23:51] <iceroot> which dhcpclient is network-manager using by default? dhcp3-client is not installed on this system and i dont know any other clients
[23:51] <jhutchins> dpurgert: Not odd, cards auto-configure ipv6 even if they don't have a connection.
[23:52] <dpurgert> bean, right -- trying to get a test case from a working connection ...
[23:53] <dpurgert> jhutchins, and would, in theory also have a 169.x.x.x IPV4 address (unless Ubuntu just straight doesn't show it ... )
[23:53] <jhutchins> anthony__: Do you have link lights on the computer & the modem?
[23:53] <anthony__> yes i have link lights. thats the first thing i checked. and i put in ddhclient eth0. nothing happend. no output
[23:53] <jhutchins> dpurgert: No, not on linux.
[23:53] <bean> anthony__: ok, now does ifconfig eth0 show an address?
[23:53] <jhutchins> bean: He said he didn't have ipv4.  Hasn't told us if the link lights are on.
[23:54] <dpurgert> jhutchins, fair enough ... been a while since I've fought with the connection ...
[23:54] <bean> jhutchins: i told him to run dhclient eth0
[23:54] <bean> hoping that i'd grab one
[23:54] <jhutchins> He's hopeless, I give up.  G'nite guys.
[23:54] <dpurgert> anthony__, you spelled it wrong -- it's "dhclient eth0" ... not "ddhclient..."
[23:54] <bean> anthony__: does "ifconfig eth0" show "UP BROADCAST MULTICAST" somewhere
[23:54] <dpurgert> g'nite
[23:57] <anthony__> ifconfig eth0 shows hwaddr and inet6. it shows UP BOADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST. and i spelled dhclient wrong on herr cuse im on my tablet and its hardv to type
[23:57] <dpurgert> anthony__, ok, no worries :)
[23:58] <bean> anthony__: okay, does "dig +short google.com" work
[23:59] <dpurgert> jhutchins, wait ... isn't the 169.254.0.0/16 block part of some RFC?