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SecrisI changed the theme to Zion (reversed) and kate is still showing black text00:14
TorchSecris: you mean why do the colours in kate not change with the global colour theme?00:16
Secrisbasically00:16
TorchSecris: if that is indeed the question, the answer is that kate has its own colour schemes00:16
SecrisSo I will need to get more color schemes?00:18
TorchSecris: just set the colour scheme in kate the way you want it00:19
Torchhttp://i.imgur.com/OcOaagQ.png00:20
SecrisTorch: I just switched back to the  oxygen theme it doesn't bother me I was just playing with the darker themes for when i am in a darker mood00:21
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cjaewhere is ultracopier01:14
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cjaewhat the hell happened to the mouse back button on the kickoff menu? did it go to the spot for using back button on dolphin?04:28
amomaproblem:gnome terminal wants to install a font. How disable it?05:37
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EskimoBob_afkHi, any ideas where can I get libxul-embedding and nspr?08:17
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morganhow do you unblock contacts in telepathy ?09:03
morgani.e - i accidentally added a contact to be blocked (my boss...) how do I unblock them ?09:05
morgan anyone know how to unblock contact in kde's im client (telepathy) ?09:17
Tm_Tmorgan: good question09:39
morgani can seem to block - but there is no 'unblock'...09:39
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cjaesomeone should package the UFW KControl Module, I wish I knew how10:17
jEhrichsmorgan: you should ask in #kde-telepathy10:24
cjaeyes I built it10:48
cjaewooohoooo10:48
morganjEhrichs: thanks10:52
jEhrichsanyone here knows how to get an updated "kde-config-tablet" into quantal-backports?10:52
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cjaehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLmRo7dYbJg11:07
morganOur entire office is running Kubuntu now !11:48
morgan100% of people have now moved away from unity/cinnamon11:48
morgan(+ winblows)11:48
Peace-morgan: good11:49
morganeasily the best DE to work with...11:49
Peace-:)11:49
hateballmorgan: Just out of curiousity, how many are you and what do you do?11:50
hateballperhaps better suited for !ot11:50
morganabout 15 ppl - web hosting.11:50
hateballRight11:50
Peace-morgan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWNkHOA56O411:50
Peace-morgan: if someone wants panels11:50
morganif your working in the webhosting/server buisiness your a fool not running Linux...11:50
morganpanels look cool !11:52
morganI have found 1 issue though.... if on dual monitors (nvidia twinview) you grab a plasma widget by the main bulk of the widget (not the side bar) which some allow - i.e weather forecast they don't drag over to the other screen correctly.....11:57
Peace-morgan: #plasma11:58
morganPeace: thanks12:00
morgani'll bug them with the bug12:01
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doctorpepperhi guys!!!13:51
doctorpeppercan anyone help me please, i am using ktorrent with a proxy and  it seems that ktorrent ignores completly the proxy settings14:04
invariantdoctorpepper, I recommend you do the proxy part via some other tool.14:10
invariantdoctorpepper, that way you know that kproxy doesn't need to have that logic.14:10
invariantdoctorpepper, and if you use some well tested tool, you are less likely to have any issues.14:10
doctorpepperactually the same setup used to work 6 months ago14:11
invariantdoctorpepper, I am not saying that it didn't.14:14
invariantdoctorpepper, I am just saying that if something doesn't work, working around it by using more proven tools is a viable strategy.14:14
BluesKajHiyas all14:27
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lordievaderGood afternoon14:55
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zero_coderdoes this all work?16:44
hateballzero_coder: What does?16:45
zero_codernothing works hateball16:48
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odo2063Hi!17:29
lordievaderodo2063: Hey17:29
odo2063yesterday i update from 11.10 over 12.04 to 12.10, but now i can't control my backlight brightness on my lenovo s205(AMD) anymore(specialkeys for sound do work). and i can control brightness at "boottime"17:31
odo2063does somebody has an idea?17:31
lordievaderodo2063: Check if the gfx driver is properly installed.17:32
odo2063checked/installed twice with jockey17:32
odo2063strange...that seems not right...17:33
lordievaderodo2063: Is the driver also in use?17:33
odo2063lets get back to the driver install. there are to points "ATI Fire GL" and "Video driver for the AMD...". and i installed the second, but it tells me that i have installed the first one17:35
disharmonicEvening17:35
lordievaderHey disharmonic17:35
odo2063hi17:36
lordievaderodo2063: Does it give more information? (Fglrx/radeon?)17:36
odo2063no17:37
odo2063fglrx is loaded17:37
odo2063and i have "dirct rendering" and cubes :-)17:38
MichaelPGoing to take windows of my Harddrive.. But i have 12.10 setup the way i want it with qtcurve styles and themes and all that.. What do i need to my a livecd of my system.. Or back all that up so i dont loose it ?17:39
disharmonicMuon doesnt auto-request kdesu?17:40
lordievaderodo2063: So to get things straight, amdcccle does not complain... Can you change the brightness thorugh the powersettings in the System Settings program?17:40
lordievaderMichaelP: How did you install (K)ubuntu?17:40
MichaelPLive usb17:40
odo2063lordievader,  there is no amdccle17:41
lordievaderodo2063: Ahh that probably explains it :), strange though that the jockey reports that it is installed. Try reinstalling the fglrx driver.17:43
MichaelPnormaly amdccle is start menu setting... amd catalyst control center17:43
lordievaderMichaelP: Ok, then it should suffice to simply remove the Windows partition and update the Grub config. However it is allways a good idea to back up sensitive data before doing a major hard-disk operation.17:44
odo2063lordievader,  doing so with synaptic17:44
lordievaderodo2063: Oh btw, can the terminal not find amdcccle? Or isn't it in the startmenu?17:44
lordievaderodo2063: Jockey is a better option, imo.17:45
disharmonicJockey is unreliable17:45
lordievaderdisharmonic: Not to me...17:45
lordievaderJockey-text anyhow.17:46
odo2063lordievader,  startmenu has it17:46
odo2063lordievader,  but powersettings does nothing17:46
lordievaderodo2063: Hold on whay do you mean? Is the Amd control center in the start menu?17:46
BluesKajodo2063, run glxinfo | grep OpenGL to make sure the driver is loaded , it shows up beside "OpenGL version string"17:47
disharmoniclordievader, well my experience was so positive i now d/l the driver from AMD and generate debs with the buildpkg option ;)17:47
odo2063lordievader,  OpenGL vendor string: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.17:47
lordievaderdisharmonic: The downside of a manual install is that it usually breaks when you update the kernel, well that's my experience.17:48
MichaelPlordievader, sence windows 7 and 8 makes that little boot partition.. does linux boot record go to that or mbr17:48
BluesKajodo2063,  the OpenGL version string, not vendor17:49
odo2063OpenGL version string: 4.2.11903 Compatibility Profile Context17:49
lordievaderMichaelP: Hmm good question, I must say I do not know. I suspect Grub is still in the mbr, since that is the section the bios reads when bootstrapping to OS.17:50
mandoguitfwiw...  if you type    inxi -Gx    that information as well as video driver etc is displayed17:50
lordievaderOr fglrxinfo, in this case.17:51
disharmoniclordievader, yeah. I always reinstall if the kernel gets updated, just to be sure.17:51
odo2063inxi -Gx17:52
lordievaderdisharmonic: I grew tired of that, so I started using the jockey, works fine for me.17:52
mandoguitodo2063:   in terminal17:52
disharmonicRegarding the Muon question. Shouldn't Muon ask for priviliges when clicking on install rather than displaying an error?17:52
BluesKajyes17:52
odo2063mandoguit,  command not found17:52
MichaelPdoes ubuntu have anything to make livecd of the installed system... Like in PcLinuxOS when i used that years ago... i used MkLivecd17:53
mandoguitodo2063:    hmmm.....might have to install it then.   nice little utility to have on hand as it displays tons of info regarding ones system17:53
MichaelPi found what im looking for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization17:54
nandhuthis will work out easily you can do a chroot to the live cd environment alter your linux and make it ready again17:54
nandhuLiveCDCustomization17:55
odo2063http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566720/   <-- fglrxinfo17:55
mandoguitodo2063:   http://code.google.com/p/inxi/        seems it's not included in the default k/ubuntu installs as it is in other distro's.    worth a look at imho17:57
odo2063mandoguit,  maybe not today ;-)17:57
lordievaderodo2063: Can you paste bin the output of: sudo jockey-text -l17:58
odo2063http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566720/18:00
odo2063kmod:fglrx - ATI Fire GL (Proprietary, Enabled, In use)18:00
disharmoniclordievader, i never managed to enable the updates stream personally. I've seen others with the same issue. It does work as it should for many ppl though18:01
odo2063http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566733/18:01
MichaelPSo for LiveCDCustomization i need to have the kubuntu iso i take it... Sence it says choose ISO image that will be used for the base... im installed kubuntu... but i have ubuntu iso in my usb harddrive... or should i redown kubuntu iso?18:01
lordievaderdisharmonic: Had many issues with that too, but in 12.10 it worked to my surprise.18:02
FlowRiserodo2063, i have an Ati card; what i do after every installation of ubuntu; i install fglrx through: sudo apt-get install fglrx18:02
* odo2063 is back in 5min18:02
lordievaderMichaelP: Why do you want to make a LiveCd?18:02
disharmoniclordievader, well i'm on 12.04 ;)18:02
odo2063MichaelP,  mint has actual a nice tool in its repo18:02
lordievaderodo2063: Hmm seems the fglrx driver is installed, however I'd try to reinstall the driver through the jockey.18:03
MichaelPTo have a compleate backup of my system18:03
lordievaderdisharmonic: I had the same problem in 12.04.18:03
MichaelPodo2063, whats in there repo18:04
lordievaderMichaelP: A better way would be to get an external drive, or burn the files to a dvd.18:04
MichaelPlordievader, what my ./kde/share/apps18:06
lordievaderMichaelP: I'd say /home, this contains all the user's files and user's config files. And perhaps a few things out of /etc (system-wide config files).18:08
mohamarehi all18:08
lordievaderHey mohamare18:08
mohamareسلام18:09
mohamareفارس هست؟18:09
lordievadermohamare: This is an english chat-room, could you speak english?18:10
odo2063   i try a reboot after reinstalling18:10
mohamarewery fev18:10
mohamare:d18:10
lordievader!arabic | mohamare18:11
ubottumohamare: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية18:11
mohamareنعم18:12
MichaelPall i really want is all themes and icons... sence i have all that with a day od downloading all the themes... qtcurve and bespin18:13
mohamarei new in linux18:13
odo2063nothing new18:14
lordievadermohamare: Check out: http://kde-look.org/18:15
odo2063so any other options instead of a new installation?18:15
lordievaderodo2063: I take it, it didn't work?18:17
odo2063lordievader,  exactly18:17
lordievaderodo2063: Hmm, bummer. You could try a manual install... Means: removing the driver through the jockey. Downloading the driver from AMD and manually installing that one.18:20
odo2063lordievader,  yeah may...u know...it's not an option for me ;-) (not that i not can)18:22
lordievaderodo2063: What do you mean? Why not?18:23
mohamareno parsian in this room?18:24
odo2063lordievader,  i just take the new intall then...18:24
lordievaderodo2063: Then you will be left with the radeon driver...18:24
lordievaderWould be the same if you simply removed the fglrx driver, radeon is fallback.. should be in any case.18:24
odo2063lordievader,  y?18:24
lordievaderodo2063: But why is a manual install no option?18:25
odo2063lordievader,  i just dont want to! :-)18:26
lordievaderodo2063: Well you could try and see if the radeon driver supports the backlight brightness control. I know it never did for me, but perhaps for your card it does.18:27
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invariantlordievader, since when are those things even remotely related?18:51
lordievaderinvariant: Brightness control and gfx drivers you mean?19:04
invariantlordievader, yes19:04
invariantlordievader, because I haven't ever seen a device where they are related.19:05
lordievaderinvariant: I had the same problem once with my laptop, the fix was installing the gfx driver.19:05
invariantlordievader, very unlikely.19:06
invariantlordievader, you might think that was the solution.19:06
invariantlordievader, backlights are not controlled by graphics cards.19:06
lordievaderinvariant: Perhaps, it seemed so at the time.19:06
lordievaderinvariant: I see, then do you have a suggestion for odo2063 how he can fix his problem?19:07
invariantlordievader, check for platform support in the linux kernel for his device.19:08
invariantlordievader, if there is no such support, it's never going to work.19:09
invariantlordievader, (unless he wants to reverse-engineer the windows drivers)19:09
odo2063lordievader,  i had the idea that it might be something with the groups19:09
invariantlordievader, my answer is the only correct answer.19:09
invariantThis is why you first check whether your hardware is supported with platform drivers before buying it.19:10
invariantSupported hardware is more expensive, but will save you a ton of headaches.19:10
lordievaderodo2063: Has the brightness control worked before?19:11
odo2063lordievader,  in 11.10 yes19:12
odo2063and with with any 12.10 live-image19:12
lordievaderodo2063: Since when did it stop working? After an update or something?19:16
odo2063exactly. i did yesterday the big run from 11.10 over 12.04 to 12.1019:17
lordievaderodo2063: Hmm perhaps simply reinstalling 12.10 is the easiest...19:18
odo2063:-) i think i said something like that :-P19:18
lordievaderodo2063: Hehe :)19:19
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mandoguitany web page on how to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 without reinstalling?  thanks20:05
BluesKaj!upgrade20:06
ubottuFor upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QuantalUpgrades/Kubuntu20:06
BluesKajmandoguit, ^20:06
mandoguitBluesKaj:   thanks  :)20:07
designbybeckGreetings all, I have Kubuntu 12.10 installed on a computer that is being donated for a public access area for students. I'd like to let them login with Guest, but I want them to have a preset desktop with widgets and such ready to go. Can I do this?20:07
EagleScreendesignbybeck: yes you can20:08
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designbybeckEagleScreen: might you point me in the directoin to set that up? I already have the main login set the way I want with widgets and background, how do I make this the default for the Guest everytime someone logs in20:09
disharmonicKDE does look sweet. Provided you take the time to set it up. Most distros have it looking really bland though20:10
EagleScreendesignbybeck: making script that changes configuration on the fly, and make a plasma restart, OR using a different account than guest and using it as the guest account (i think this method is easier)20:11
designbybeckhmmm, so i can make a "randomuser" and set everything up on that "randomuser" account, and then make it a member of "guest"? EagleScreen is that how?20:12
EagleScreendesignbybeck: why is your main reason to use guest account? autoremove of all files?20:14
designbybeckfor the most part EagleScreen20:14
EagleScreendesignbybeck: I think the easiest way is: 1) create a normal user, 2) use nodm instead if kdm (or lightdm, 3) clear that user password if you want, 4) make some script which clear previous sessions files at login20:16
designbybeckEagleScreen:  It is for mainly physics and computer science students. I want them to be able to use all the software I have installed on it20:16
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disharmonicHmm, how do i set up virtual desktops? It used to be under the Desktop tab iirc, but i don't see that one anymore20:17
EagleScreendesignbybeck: if you use nodm instead of lightdm, users can login with no password, and custom desktop configuration done by you will be persistent20:18
disharmonicnvm, foud it20:18
designbybecknot sure how to make those scripts and such EagleScreen20:18
designbybeckI guess other than the Widget setup I really don't care that they use Guest... Was just hoping to have some of the converter, calculator, weather widgets open when they first started up20:19
EagleScreendesignbybeck: any dude?20:21
designbybeckno I'm not a programmer sorry20:22
EagleScreendesignbybeck: can't you make a bash script?20:23
designbybeckno clue20:23
designbybeck!#20:24
designbybecklol something like that in a text file20:24
EagleScreenlet me see other alternatives..20:24
designbybeckEagleScreen: with UbuntuTweak you can change a few login details on Ubuntu, was hoping for something that easy20:29
EagleScreendesignbybeck: i am looking for it20:35
EagleScreendesignbybeck: the key is in /etc/guest-session/skel I think20:46
designbybeckah yes, I remember reading something about that for the Ubuntu setup I did20:46
designbybeckit was something along the lines as you get one sessions setup how you want it, copy something and put it in /guest-session/skel20:46
designbybeckI just didn't run across Kubuntu and Activities/Widgets and didn't know if it would work the same20:47
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EagleScreendesignbybeck: I think yes, i am going to do a test20:47
designbybeckgreat! Thank you EagleScreen20:47
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EagleScreendesignbybeck: guest-session script appears to be using files in  /etc/guest-session/skel, but there is not  /etc/guest-session/skel in my system :O20:57
designbybeckhmm EagleScreen you think that Kubuntu doesn't have it?21:36
designbybeckwhat system you running EagleScreen?21:37
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EagleScreendesignbybeck: on Kubuntu 12.10 that directory is not present22:09
EagleScreendesignbybeck: as consequence, I only have an idea of doing it with a user different than guest, which you could use like the guest account22:10
designbybeckI am seeing that myself EagleScreen22:22
EagleScreendesignbybeck: have got that directory in your system?22:23
designbybeckno I do not EagleScreen I meant I see that it isn't there on Kubuntu or my Ubuntu setup22:24
EagleScreenok22:24
EagleScreendesignbybeck: use a normal user, you can create it with graphical tools or with command: sudo adduser charlie22:25
EagleScreenwhere charlie is the username you want22:25
EagleScreendesignbybeck: you can deactivate his password with: sudo passwd -d charlie22:26
EagleScreenthen everybody can login with it22:26
EagleScreendesignbybeck: you also can install nodm if you do not want login screen neither (auto login without login screen)22:26
EagleScreendesignbybeck: then you can customize the desktop as you like, and it will be persistent22:27
designbybeckI think there is a setting in Kubuntu that will turn off the password for the login22:27
EagleScreendesignbybeck: may be22:28
designbybeckWill it roll back if another students changes something or turns off a widget EagleScreen ?22:28
EagleScreendesignbybeck: we can do something to estore back the default (customized) desktop each time a session is started, so yes22:29
EagleScreendesignbybeck: first create a new user and custimize the desktop as you want there. Ae you going to do it right now?22:31
designbybeckEagleScreen:  I just found under System Settings Start up and SHutdown under Session Management area22:32
designbybeckIt has On Login area... wonder if that might help22:32
EagleScreenwe can use it later to run things at login22:34
designbybeckbut it says you can reload a saved session, wonder where you save it in the first place is EagleScreen22:36
EagleScreendesignbybeck: that has nothing to do regarding you want22:41
designbybeckno?22:46
EagleScreendesignbybeck: no22:49
EagleScreendesignbybeck: have you already created a a normal (not admin) user account and customized it?22:50
designbybeckyes just did that EagleScreen22:55
designbybeckgot it pretty much how the other one was22:55
EagleScreendesignbybeck: now login with the other (admin) account22:56
designbybeckok22:56
designbybeckI'm in as admin EagleScreen22:57
EagleScreenok now open a dolphin window as admin or a konsole terminal as admin22:57
designbybeckk i'm in the term22:59
EagleScreenbecome root bu command: sudo su22:59
EagleScreenand entering your pssword22:59
designbybeckk i'm root23:00
EagleScreenhow is your user's name?23:00
EagleScreennot this (admin) the other you created (not admin)23:00
designbybeckphysics23:03
designbybeckis the username23:03
EagleScreenok23:03
EagleScreenlets create a new directory: mkdir /opt/physics_skel23:03
designbybeckok made that23:05
EagleScreennow we copy normal files to there: cp -a /home/physics/* /opt/phisics_skel/23:06
designbybeckwhat does the -a do?23:06
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EagleScreendesignbybeck: copy recursively and keep file permisions (like buckup)23:07
designbybeckah ok, that is done now23:07
EagleScreennow copy hiden and config files: cp -a /home/physics/.* /opt/physics_skel23:10
designbybeckgave some errors saying it would not create hard link to ... file. I am guessing that is correct because we want it to stay pointing to the same absolute path correct EagleScreen23:11
EagleScreenyes23:12
EagleScreendont worry23:12
designbybeckok that is done23:12
EagleScreennow you have a backup of that user settings in that directory23:12
EagleScreenI think we can automatize the restoring of that files for each session23:13
designbybeckok great, that is more than I did have23:14
benklopamazon?23:14
EagleScreendesignbybeck: my compuer runs very slow, i think it has no free disk space23:16
designbybeckOk EagleScreen thank you very much for your help with all of this23:16
EagleScreendesignbybeck: let me see the KDE config options for startup23:18
Kanohi,did anybody successfully boot kubuntu with a secure boot system?23:18
EagleScreendesignbybeck: create another directory: mkdir /opt/bin/23:21
EagleScreendesignbybeck: change to that directory: cd /opt/bin23:22
designbybeckk23:22
designbybeckok EagleScreen i'm in /opt/bin23:23
EagleScreencreate a text file: touch restore.sh23:23
EagleScreenthe fine name is 'restore.sh'23:24
designbybeckok it made that file23:26
EagleScreenlets give it right permissions: chmod 777 restore.sh23:27
designbybeckok done23:28
EagleScreennew i must write a small script in that file, stand by a moment23:28
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EagleScreendesignbybeck: how time it taked to copy files with cp -a before?23:42
designbybecknot very long EagleScreen23:44
designbybeckthefolders moved faster than the .hidden23:45
EagleScreenmy computer is taking ages23:45
EagleScreeni must have something broken by use unstble software23:45
designbybeckwell this was a clean install EagleScreen23:46
designbybeckso I didn't have any files hardly, though I did have a bunch of software I had downloaded, just no of that had been ran23:46

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