| snap-l | Yeah, Apple has crazy money | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| snap-l | I wonder if they have enough money to float Microsoft a loan. | 00:11 |
| snap-l | http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/08/29/apple-now-bigger-market-cap-microsoft-google-amazon-facebook-combined/ | 00:12 |
| snap-l | Whether that's true or not, it makes a nice story. | 00:12 |
| jcastro | heya rick_h_ | 01:54 |
| jcastro | I need your webdev skillz | 01:54 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: what's up? | 01:56 |
| jcastro | hey so I had my DNS on gandi | 01:56 |
| jcastro | but I moved to route53 | 01:56 |
| rick_h_ | k | 01:56 |
| jcastro | how do I know when my site has propagated fully? | 01:56 |
| jcastro | http://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/www.jorgecastro.org | 01:57 |
| jcastro | I did this | 01:57 |
| rick_h_ | all depends on the client. In *theory* it should be as long as the TTL on the old DNS server | 01:57 |
| rick_h_ | but that's not always followed to the second | 01:57 |
| jcastro | yeah so really, my only concern is that I did it right | 01:57 |
| jcastro | like, I'm not _sure_ that when all the dns catches up that my site will work | 01:57 |
| jcastro | I want to figure out how to test with the latest, even if it's not propagated | 01:58 |
| JonEdney | Edit your hosts file. | 01:58 |
| rick_h_ | well to test that, just check it by specifying the dns server. http://droptips.com/using-dig-to-query-a-specific-dns-server-name-server-directly-linux-bsd-osx | 01:58 |
| rick_h_ | do that against the route53 dns servers. Do they give you end points? | 01:58 |
| jcastro | yeah but I am also using cloudfront, so I don't really know what to do about /etc/hosts | 01:58 |
| rick_h_ | do you know the ip jorgecastro.net should resolve to? | 02:02 |
| rick_h_ | that's pointing at a server? Or just at s3/cloudfront? | 02:02 |
| rick_h_ | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/872/ is on aws | 02:03 |
| rick_h_ | and site loads fine for me, quick | 02:03 |
| rick_h_ | ok, well not so quick for all assets, but quick enough | 02:03 |
| jcastro | just s3/cloudfront | 02:07 |
| jcastro | ah ok dude | 02:07 |
| jcastro | so ns-1790.awsdns-31.co.uk. | 02:07 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea, I think you're set | 02:07 |
| jcastro | is one of the new dns server things they told me to add | 02:07 |
| jcastro | so ... I switched out dns and everything just worked | 02:07 |
| jcastro | huh | 02:07 |
| jcastro | I was expecting everything to break | 02:08 |
| jcastro | but man, they do a nice job of making it convenient to use all their services instead of piecemeal | 02:08 |
| rick_h_ | lol, naw. Unless you took down the old stuff it should update invisible | 02:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea, AWS wins because they provide tools that work together nicely | 02:08 |
| jcastro | it's like, annoying to set up cloudfront and s3 with another dns provider | 02:09 |
| jcastro | but if you use route53 it's like, click click, here's my bucket, CDN that shit yo. | 02:09 |
| jcastro | done. | 02:09 |
| jjesse | hahahaha laughing at "CDN that shit yo" | 02:09 |
| jcastro | dude it's not even that | 02:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, every time I backup a EC2 EBS to S3 I get thinking "crap this is nice" | 02:09 |
| jcastro | it's just like, click, and then pay | 02:09 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: how brutal, my bill for my blog this month | 02:12 |
| jcastro | .69 cents | 02:12 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 02:12 |
| jcastro | that's _with_ cloudfront | 02:12 |
| jcastro | normal s3 is like .18 | 02:12 |
| jcastro | but I ain't ghetto! | 02:12 |
| jjesse | i can't believe my wife still watches american idol | 02:14 |
| JonEdney | Blame Keith Urban. | 02:14 |
| jjesse | probably should srsly this show should have died a long time ago | 02:14 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 02:14 |
| snap-l | Am I the only person who mutters "fuck you" around Toby Keith's "I Love this Bar and Grill"? | 02:15 |
| jjesse | lol | 02:15 |
| JonEdney | haha, doubtful. | 02:15 |
| jjesse | and Mariah and Nick Minaj or however you spell are terrible | 02:15 |
| jjesse | just burn it down | 02:15 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/8410275040/in/photostream :) etsy ftw for crap I can't do. | 02:16 |
| rick_h_ | seriously, they've got anything on etsy these days | 02:16 |
| rick_h_ | gotten a wall clock, boys apron, etc | 02:16 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Rush induction into the RnRHoF is April 18th | 03:33 |
| snap-l | THey're selling tickets to Fans on Jan 28th | 03:33 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: awesome! :) | 04:57 |
| jjesse | the android app for pebble is now live in google play | 14:12 |
| jjesse | though it won't do any good until you get your pebble | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | yea, installed it this morning | 14:14 |
| rick_h_ | oops http://r.bmark.us/u/9ebada2bed1780 | 16:32 |
| rick_h_ | maybe that's why barracuda networks is hiring :P | 16:32 |
| snap-l | Oh that's no good. | 16:32 |
| snap-l | That's a reputation hit no security company can afford. | 16:32 |
| rick_h_ | 10yrs is a lot of hardware | 16:33 |
| snap-l | Q: Did you read in there that it was intentional? | 16:34 |
| jcastro | snap-l: huh, so what's the catch with Ting | 16:35 |
| snap-l | SPrint only | 16:35 |
| jcastro | yeah but you don't deal with sprint directly right? | 16:35 |
| snap-l | And you have to buy the device, but they're working on BYOD | 16:35 |
| snap-l | No, you deal direct with them | 16:36 |
| greg-g | jcastro: right, just deal with ting | 16:36 |
| jcastro | oh, so I can't just switch to them if I have my own stuff | 16:36 |
| snap-l | They have a beta program | 16:36 |
| snap-l | one sec. | 16:36 |
| jcastro | this is nuts | 16:36 |
| jcastro | $416 for a galaxy nexus? | 16:36 |
| jjesse | thats w/o the carrier giving you any money | 16:36 |
| jjesse | you buy the phone outright | 16:37 |
| jcastro | right, I already do that. | 16:37 |
| jcastro | but a nexus4 is $299 from google. | 16:37 |
| jcastro | though sold out. :( | 16:37 |
| snap-l | jcastro: If you use my referral code, you can get $25 off | 16:37 |
| snap-l | https://help.ting.com/entries/22352167-ting-byo-s-d-supported-devices-list | 16:38 |
| jcastro | none of my devices are on the BYOD list | 16:38 |
| snap-l | Yeah, then you'd have to buy a device. | 16:38 |
| snap-l | http://decafbad.net/2012/06/06/i-love-my-phone-company-or-why-ting-com-is-awesome/ | 16:38 |
| snap-l | referral is at the bottom | 16:39 |
| snap-l | If you have a contract, you can cancel in February, and they'll reimburse your ETF. | 16:39 |
| jcastro | I don't have a contract | 16:39 |
| jcastro | I've been on a euro-style plan for like 5 years. \o/ | 16:39 |
| snap-l | ++ | 16:39 |
| snap-l | Yeah, the no-contract is awesome with Ting. | 16:40 |
| greg-g | hey! split your referral with me! ;) | 16:40 |
| greg-g | kidding | 16:40 |
| jcastro | huh | 16:40 |
| jcastro | are all their phones CDMA? | 16:40 |
| snap-l | yes | 16:40 |
| jcastro | oh, it's sprint right | 16:40 |
| jcastro | ugh | 16:41 |
| greg-g | right | 16:41 |
| jcastro | you're killing me bro | 16:41 |
| snap-l | Stop leaving the country. ;) | 16:41 |
| snap-l | Won't matter then. ;) | 16:41 |
| jcastro | hey don't get me wrong, I love saving money, but I won't be giving up my gsm phone any time soon | 16:42 |
| greg-g | I need to figure out the regulatory process that made it so Sprint allows this (not just Ting, Virgin Mobile uses Sprint's towers, I bet MetroPCS and similar do as well) | 16:43 |
| jcastro | if there's ting<->tmo, count me in. | 16:43 |
| jcastro | greg-g: they've always resold stuff (the big carriers) | 16:43 |
| greg-g | jcastro: show me one other than sprint that does it, though | 16:43 |
| snap-l | Verizon does it | 16:44 |
| snap-l | Tracfone is via TMo | 16:44 |
| snap-l | Or at least in this area they are. | 16:44 |
| jcastro | http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/aboutUs/reseller/resellerFAQ.jsp | 16:44 |
| jcastro | here you, start greg-mobile! | 16:44 |
| jcastro | greg-g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator | 16:47 |
| jcastro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators | 16:47 |
| greg-g | huh, well then, I am proven wrong | 16:47 |
| jcastro | I didn't know Sprint owned boost | 16:48 |
| jcastro | I thought they just sold it to Boost and were like "you keep the low low end" | 16:48 |
| snap-l | TMo also now owns Metro PCS, iirc. | 16:48 |
| jcastro | "Walmart Family Mobile" | 16:49 |
| jcastro | man | 16:49 |
| jcastro | can you imagine _that_ experience | 16:49 |
| greg-g | lol | 16:49 |
| * greg-g sings the deliverance theme | 16:49 | |
| snap-l | "Hello, I'd like to dispute a charge". "Whu?" | 16:49 |
| snap-l | "I said I'd like to dispute a charge". "Huh? Charge? No, we don't accept credit cards" | 16:50 |
| jcastro | http://www.mysimplemobile.com/ | 16:50 |
| jcastro | looks ting-esque | 16:50 |
| jcastro | but for tmo | 16:50 |
| snap-l | "No, I mean I have a charge on my bill that I'd like to ... " "Omigawd, we don't allow ducks in the store no more. Not after the incident" | 16:50 |
| jcastro | my only other problem is jill never moved to her google voice #, so I'd have to like, transfer it, sigh | 16:51 |
| snap-l | Ting makes it easy | 16:51 |
| greg-g | easy peasy | 16:51 |
| greg-g | like, seriously easy, as easy as you think it should be | 16:51 |
| snap-l | And you can turn in the old phone to Gazelle for... well... pocket change. | 16:51 |
| snap-l | Let's not go there. | 16:52 |
| brousch | In February I will have like 8 months left on my Verizon contract. Ting would really pay that termination fee? | 16:52 |
| jcastro | yeah I've done that | 16:52 |
| snap-l | brousch: That's what I'm banking on | 16:52 |
| brousch | I keep all old smartphones for testing apps | 16:52 |
| snap-l | I have a Galaxy Nexus waiting to activate. | 16:52 |
| snap-l | brousch: Hm, maybe I should do that instead | 16:52 |
| jcastro | man, moving to simplemobile would make my bill go from 130 to 90 | 16:53 |
| brousch | I'm skeptical. That's a big chunk-o-change | 16:53 |
| snap-l | Gazelle is offering $26 for the Thunderbolt | 16:53 |
| jcastro | for the 2 of us | 16:53 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Moving to Ting would make your bill half that. | 16:53 |
| snap-l | Seriously. | 16:53 |
| snap-l | https://ting.com/plans | 16:54 |
| jcastro | yeah, so I'm not willing to go to the cdma ghetto for it. All the best phones come out for gsm first | 16:54 |
| snap-l | It's cheap enough that you could use that for your tooling-around-the-states phone | 16:55 |
| jcastro | true true | 16:55 |
| snap-l | and then buy the OMGWTFBBQ phone before UDS | 16:55 |
| snap-l | it's only $6 to keep it active. | 16:55 |
| snap-l | per month | 16:55 |
| snap-l | You could put it in a drawer for 2 months and still come out ahead. ;) | 16:56 |
| jcastro | hmm, so 2 nexuses from google + simple seem like a decent money saving effort off the bat | 16:57 |
| jcastro | even @ only a 40 different with simple, that's like, a car payment over the course of a year. | 16:59 |
| snap-l | How much do you and Jill use your phones? | 16:59 |
| jcastro | I don't much, I have a gtalk landline I use which is free | 17:00 |
| jcastro | but she eats through minutes like a beast | 17:00 |
| jcastro | we need like, the 1000 min plan | 17:00 |
| snap-l | OK, so 1000 minutes, 2000 messages, and 1000 megabytes is 53 a month for two phones | 17:01 |
| snap-l | and if you go over, you just bump up | 17:01 |
| snap-l | 71 a month for 2gb a month | 17:01 |
| snap-l | and if you don't use it, they credit the difference. | 17:01 |
| brousch | It sounds so good it feels like a scam! | 17:02 |
| snap-l | so if you pay for 2000M, and only use less than 500, you get a credit of $29 | 17:02 |
| jcastro | I get that, it sounds awesome | 17:02 |
| jcastro | but cdma is a deal breaker for me | 17:02 |
| snap-l | How often do you travel out of the country? | 17:02 |
| snap-l | 6 times a year? | 17:02 |
| snap-l | 4 times a year? | 17:02 |
| jcastro | it's not just that | 17:03 |
| snap-l | Enlighten me | 17:03 |
| jcastro | the phones I buy (nexuses) all come out in gsm first, by a long margin usually too | 17:03 |
| snap-l | OK, so you have to wait a little to buy the new toy. | 17:04 |
| snap-l | Are you saving money? :) | 17:04 |
| jcastro | craig, I know you want a referral, I'll just buy you a beer for helping me find simple. :p | 17:04 |
| snap-l | I'm not in it for the referral; I want you to make a good choice. | 17:04 |
| jcastro | well, let's see | 17:05 |
| jcastro | I would need 2 phones, that's $391 a pop for a galaxy nexus | 17:05 |
| jcastro | a phone that was slow the day it came out, over a year ago. | 17:05 |
| snap-l | So get the S3 | 17:05 |
| jcastro | vs. $299 for a nexus4, which is admitably sold out | 17:05 |
| snap-l | The Nexus 4 is HTC< so it'll blow up in a year | 17:06 |
| jcastro | the s3 is even more of a joke, it's $520! | 17:06 |
| jcastro | also any non-nexus is an immediate deal breaker, has to be purge google. | 17:06 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: help me out here, I know you understand. | 17:06 |
| rick_h_ | with jcastro, getting sick of devices on verizon :/ | 17:06 |
| jcastro | also I meant pure google, not purge google | 17:07 |
| rick_h_ | some of us pay for the joy of software updates and devices that don't suck | 17:07 |
| snap-l | OK, so you're paying $400 for a year-old phone | 17:07 |
| snap-l | And getting a hell of a ddeal in the process on a month-to-month basis | 17:07 |
| rick_h_ | N4 isn't year old and is < $400 and you can get it on GSM, have latest android, and know it'll be good for the next 2 years without an issue | 17:07 |
| jcastro | ^^^^ | 17:07 |
| snap-l | And you'll pay $90 a month for the privilege | 17:07 |
| snap-l | 1200 to have a nice toy | 17:08 |
| snap-l | with admittedly great coverage | 17:08 |
| rick_h_ | phone is more than a toy for some :P | 17:08 |
| jcastro | dude don't blame me, it's not my fault all those phones suck | 17:08 |
| snap-l | vs 480 for a year for two phones | 17:09 |
| snap-l | (that's about how much I pay for JoDee's dad and my phone per month) | 17:09 |
| snap-l | $40 | 17:09 |
| snap-l | assuming I don't get referral bonuses | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | right, but what's the price when your phone has no coverage and you run out of gas, or say..hit a deer in the back wood by my uncle's house :P | 17:09 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: In case you hadn't noticed, Sprint is in a lot of rural areas Verizon isn't. ;) | 17:09 |
| rick_h_ | meh, jcastro you go man. | 17:09 |
| jcastro | snap-l: hey so for sure, for my parents and stuff, this is awesome | 17:10 |
| snap-l | I mean, Sprint is in GR, and that's rural. ;) | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: heh, was at music class surfing on my tablet while the ATT and Sprint folks couldn't get get/send a text message :) | 17:10 |
| rick_h_ | and that's every wed night | 17:10 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Were they on iPhones ? :) | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | just saying it's not so clear cut for those of us that rely on the phone and coverage. | 17:11 |
| snap-l | (grasping at straws, yeah) | 17:11 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: two iphones, one ipad, and don't know wtf the sprint phone was | 17:11 |
| snap-l | AT&T coverage was shit anyway. | 17:11 |
| snap-l | My iPhone was pretty useless when it wasn't on wifi | 17:12 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: let me know what yuo end up with. I'm thinking I might have to move back to ATT next contract | 17:12 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Why? | 17:12 |
| jcastro | I am just waiting for N4's to get into stock | 17:12 |
| rick_h_ | bring my own device and have 4g | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | the ATT 4g is not as good as verizon but hear it's getting better | 17:13 |
| snap-l | Ph, yeah, minor detail: Sprint doesn't have 4G in this area. | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | and I'm sick of long waits for any software updates on my nexus | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | might keep a verizon mifi and get phones from ATT | 17:13 |
| rick_h_ | well, bring my own phones that is | 17:13 |
| snap-l | Didn't know ATT supported BYOD. | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | they don't really, you can buy a sim on contract and get it working though. It took some work but did get a sim working in my gsm mifi I bought for international travel | 17:14 |
| jcastro | tmo doesn't have 4g either, it's 3.5g | 17:15 |
| rick_h_ | yea, when I say 4g I mean LTE | 17:15 |
| jcastro | they just call it 4g | 17:15 |
| jcastro | because they're assholes | 17:15 |
| snap-l | jcastro: I mean you'll only get 3g | 17:15 |
| snap-l | There's no 4G / LTE coverage, period | 17:15 |
| jcastro | ah | 17:16 |
| jcastro | well, as I like to say, "I'm on tmo, I'm always on 3g." | 17:16 |
| snap-l | You have to go to Ohio for 4G | 17:16 |
| jcastro | I get their "4g" HSPDA or whatever in AA and RO and in most populated areas, including my house | 17:16 |
| jcastro | but like, I don't care that much, all 4g means is hitting my cap faster | 17:17 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:17 |
| jcastro | just like the comcast commercials | 17:17 |
| snap-l | jcastro: Oh, Ting doesn't have caps. | 17:17 |
| jcastro | "We're faster than anyone else." | 17:17 |
| jcastro | but if you do simple arithmetic you'd hit their cap in like a day. | 17:17 |
| snap-l | I want to know why fucking Valprasio has 4G and we don't. | 17:18 |
| greg-g | hey rick_h_, off topic for now, but do you still send things to your kindle to read offline, stuff like longer blog posts/articles? | 17:19 |
| snap-l | Yeah, talking abou phone service is so on-topic. ;) | 17:19 |
| greg-g | well, on-current-topic-of-discussion ;) | 17:20 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: no, not really. I tried to read books offline. If the article isn't worth attention now I bookmark it in case I need it but don't always go through them all | 17:20 |
| greg-g | this channel should be renamed #ubunu-us-mi-offtopic, but no one would be in #ubuntu-us-mi anymore ;) | 17:20 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: gotcha | 17:21 |
| rick_h_ | tried/try that was | 17:23 |
| greg-g | ah, this is kind of nice, actually: https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/firefox | 17:25 |
| rick_h_ | greg-g: very cool | 17:28 |
| rick_h_ | heh, they've got the whole read it later in kindle setup. | 17:29 |
| snap-l | greg-g: I thought instapaper had something to move articles to the kindle | 17:33 |
| greg-g | snap-l: /me doesn't use instapaper | 17:34 |
| greg-g | snap-l: but whatever works | 17:34 |
| snap-l | Right, I haven't used INstapaper in a while now | 17:34 |
| greg-g | I thought it was a more involved process back in the day | 17:34 |
| snap-l | I just print to PDF and put it in a Dropbox folder. | 17:34 |
| greg-g | it == getting things to the kindle | 17:34 |
| rick_h_ | yea, instapaper supported it, how I used to get stuff on there | 17:34 |
| * greg-g nods | 17:34 | |
| rick_h_ | you mean you first hit up r.bmark.us and then put that in the dropbox folder? :P | 17:35 |
| snap-l | Um, yeah | 17:35 |
| snap-l | tried to convince John here to use bookie instead of this scrapbooking | 17:35 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 17:35 |
| snap-l | he was under the mistaken impression that Bookie didn't do images | 17:35 |
| snap-l | of course all of the articles I found didn't have images. | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | hah | 17:36 |
| snap-l | Or the parsing was wonky. | 17:36 |
| greg-g | you read the wrong news sites ;) | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | well, so I don't pull down and store images | 17:36 |
| snap-l | https://bmark.us/bmark/readable/b14e57863c22f2 | 17:36 |
| rick_h_ | but I do try to update them to the correct links if I can | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | ah interesting. Should file that as a bug against breadability | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | sucky, works with readability. I fail | 17:37 |
| rick_h_ | http://r.bmark.us/u/fa83e5f50cba96 does better since there's more body to it | 17:39 |
| rick_h_ | http://r.bmark.us/u/f47105aef8de5a is pretty much ugh as well | 17:39 |
| greg-g | grr, neither the Fx nor the Chrome official Send to Kindle plugins are working | 21:27 |
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