[00:10] Yeah, Apple has crazy money [00:11] I wonder if they have enough money to float Microsoft a loan. [00:12] http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2012/08/29/apple-now-bigger-market-cap-microsoft-google-amazon-facebook-combined/ [00:12] Whether that's true or not, it makes a nice story. [01:54] heya rick_h_ [01:54] I need your webdev skillz [01:56] jcastro: what's up? [01:56] hey so I had my DNS on gandi [01:56] but I moved to route53 [01:56] k [01:56] how do I know when my site has propagated fully? [01:57] http://www.whatsmydns.net/#A/www.jorgecastro.org [01:57] I did this [01:57] all depends on the client. In *theory* it should be as long as the TTL on the old DNS server [01:57] but that's not always followed to the second [01:57] yeah so really, my only concern is that I did it right [01:57] like, I'm not _sure_ that when all the dns catches up that my site will work [01:58] I want to figure out how to test with the latest, even if it's not propagated [01:58] Edit your hosts file. [01:58] well to test that, just check it by specifying the dns server. http://droptips.com/using-dig-to-query-a-specific-dns-server-name-server-directly-linux-bsd-osx [01:58] do that against the route53 dns servers. Do they give you end points? [01:58] yeah but I am also using cloudfront, so I don't really know what to do about /etc/hosts [02:02] do you know the ip jorgecastro.net should resolve to? [02:02] that's pointing at a server? Or just at s3/cloudfront? [02:03] http://paste.mitechie.com/show/872/ is on aws [02:03] and site loads fine for me, quick [02:03] ok, well not so quick for all assets, but quick enough [02:07] just s3/cloudfront [02:07] ah ok dude [02:07] so ns-1790.awsdns-31.co.uk. [02:07] jcastro: yea, I think you're set [02:07] is one of the new dns server things they told me to add [02:07] so ... I switched out dns and everything just worked [02:07] huh [02:08] I was expecting everything to break [02:08] but man, they do a nice job of making it convenient to use all their services instead of piecemeal [02:08] lol, naw. Unless you took down the old stuff it should update invisible [02:08] yea, AWS wins because they provide tools that work together nicely [02:09] it's like, annoying to set up cloudfront and s3 with another dns provider [02:09] but if you use route53 it's like, click click, here's my bucket, CDN that shit yo. [02:09] done. [02:09] hahahaha laughing at "CDN that shit yo" [02:09] dude it's not even that [02:09] yea, every time I backup a EC2 EBS to S3 I get thinking "crap this is nice" [02:09] it's just like, click, and then pay [02:12] rick_h_: how brutal, my bill for my blog this month [02:12] .69 cents [02:12] lol [02:12] that's _with_ cloudfront [02:12] normal s3 is like .18 [02:12] but I ain't ghetto! [02:14] i can't believe my wife still watches american idol [02:14] Blame Keith Urban. [02:14] probably should srsly this show should have died a long time ago [02:14] hah [02:15] Am I the only person who mutters "fuck you" around Toby Keith's "I Love this Bar and Grill"? [02:15] lol [02:15] haha, doubtful. [02:15] and Mariah and Nick Minaj or however you spell are terrible [02:15] just burn it down [02:16] greg-g: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/8410275040/in/photostream :) etsy ftw for crap I can't do. [02:16] seriously, they've got anything on etsy these days [02:16] gotten a wall clock, boys apron, etc [03:33] jcastro: Rush induction into the RnRHoF is April 18th [03:33] THey're selling tickets to Fans on Jan 28th [04:57] rick_h_: awesome! :) [14:12] the android app for pebble is now live in google play [14:12] though it won't do any good until you get your pebble [14:14] yea, installed it this morning [16:32] oops http://r.bmark.us/u/9ebada2bed1780 [16:32] maybe that's why barracuda networks is hiring :P [16:32] Oh that's no good. [16:32] That's a reputation hit no security company can afford. [16:33] 10yrs is a lot of hardware [16:34] Q: Did you read in there that it was intentional? [16:35] snap-l: huh, so what's the catch with Ting [16:35] SPrint only [16:35] yeah but you don't deal with sprint directly right? [16:35] And you have to buy the device, but they're working on BYOD [16:36] No, you deal direct with them [16:36] jcastro: right, just deal with ting [16:36] oh, so I can't just switch to them if I have my own stuff [16:36] They have a beta program [16:36] one sec. [16:36] this is nuts [16:36] $416 for a galaxy nexus? [16:36] thats w/o the carrier giving you any money [16:37] you buy the phone outright [16:37] right, I already do that. [16:37] but a nexus4 is $299 from google. [16:37] though sold out. :( [16:37] jcastro: If you use my referral code, you can get $25 off [16:38] https://help.ting.com/entries/22352167-ting-byo-s-d-supported-devices-list [16:38] none of my devices are on the BYOD list [16:38] Yeah, then you'd have to buy a device. [16:38] http://decafbad.net/2012/06/06/i-love-my-phone-company-or-why-ting-com-is-awesome/ [16:39] referral is at the bottom [16:39] If you have a contract, you can cancel in February, and they'll reimburse your ETF. [16:39] I don't have a contract [16:39] I've been on a euro-style plan for like 5 years. \o/ [16:39] ++ [16:40] Yeah, the no-contract is awesome with Ting. [16:40] hey! split your referral with me! ;) [16:40] kidding [16:40] huh [16:40] are all their phones CDMA? [16:40] yes [16:40] oh, it's sprint right [16:41] ugh [16:41] right [16:41] you're killing me bro [16:41] Stop leaving the country. ;) [16:41] Won't matter then. ;) [16:42] hey don't get me wrong, I love saving money, but I won't be giving up my gsm phone any time soon [16:43] I need to figure out the regulatory process that made it so Sprint allows this (not just Ting, Virgin Mobile uses Sprint's towers, I bet MetroPCS and similar do as well) [16:43] if there's ting<->tmo, count me in. [16:43] greg-g: they've always resold stuff (the big carriers) [16:43] jcastro: show me one other than sprint that does it, though [16:44] Verizon does it [16:44] Tracfone is via TMo [16:44] Or at least in this area they are. [16:44] http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/aboutUs/reseller/resellerFAQ.jsp [16:44] here you, start greg-mobile! [16:47] greg-g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator [16:47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators [16:47] huh, well then, I am proven wrong [16:48] I didn't know Sprint owned boost [16:48] I thought they just sold it to Boost and were like "you keep the low low end" [16:48] TMo also now owns Metro PCS, iirc. [16:49] "Walmart Family Mobile" [16:49] man [16:49] can you imagine _that_ experience [16:49] lol [16:49] * greg-g sings the deliverance theme [16:49] "Hello, I'd like to dispute a charge". "Whu?" [16:50] "I said I'd like to dispute a charge". "Huh? Charge? No, we don't accept credit cards" [16:50] http://www.mysimplemobile.com/ [16:50] looks ting-esque [16:50] but for tmo [16:50] "No, I mean I have a charge on my bill that I'd like to ... " "Omigawd, we don't allow ducks in the store no more. Not after the incident" [16:51] my only other problem is jill never moved to her google voice #, so I'd have to like, transfer it, sigh [16:51] Ting makes it easy [16:51] easy peasy [16:51] like, seriously easy, as easy as you think it should be [16:51] And you can turn in the old phone to Gazelle for... well... pocket change. [16:52] Let's not go there. [16:52] In February I will have like 8 months left on my Verizon contract. Ting would really pay that termination fee? [16:52] yeah I've done that [16:52] brousch: That's what I'm banking on [16:52] I keep all old smartphones for testing apps [16:52] I have a Galaxy Nexus waiting to activate. [16:52] brousch: Hm, maybe I should do that instead [16:53] man, moving to simplemobile would make my bill go from 130 to 90 [16:53] I'm skeptical. That's a big chunk-o-change [16:53] Gazelle is offering $26 for the Thunderbolt [16:53] for the 2 of us [16:53] jcastro: Moving to Ting would make your bill half that. [16:53] Seriously. [16:54] https://ting.com/plans [16:54] yeah, so I'm not willing to go to the cdma ghetto for it. All the best phones come out for gsm first [16:55] It's cheap enough that you could use that for your tooling-around-the-states phone [16:55] true true [16:55] and then buy the OMGWTFBBQ phone before UDS [16:55] it's only $6 to keep it active. [16:55] per month [16:56] You could put it in a drawer for 2 months and still come out ahead. ;) [16:57] hmm, so 2 nexuses from google + simple seem like a decent money saving effort off the bat [16:59] even @ only a 40 different with simple, that's like, a car payment over the course of a year. [16:59] How much do you and Jill use your phones? [17:00] I don't much, I have a gtalk landline I use which is free [17:00] but she eats through minutes like a beast [17:00] we need like, the 1000 min plan [17:01] OK, so 1000 minutes, 2000 messages, and 1000 megabytes is 53 a month for two phones [17:01] and if you go over, you just bump up [17:01] 71 a month for 2gb a month [17:01] and if you don't use it, they credit the difference. [17:02] It sounds so good it feels like a scam! [17:02] so if you pay for 2000M, and only use less than 500, you get a credit of $29 [17:02] I get that, it sounds awesome [17:02] but cdma is a deal breaker for me [17:02] How often do you travel out of the country? [17:02] 6 times a year? [17:02] 4 times a year? [17:03] it's not just that [17:03] Enlighten me [17:03] the phones I buy (nexuses) all come out in gsm first, by a long margin usually too [17:04] OK, so you have to wait a little to buy the new toy. [17:04] Are you saving money? :) [17:04] craig, I know you want a referral, I'll just buy you a beer for helping me find simple. :p [17:04] I'm not in it for the referral; I want you to make a good choice. [17:05] well, let's see [17:05] I would need 2 phones, that's $391 a pop for a galaxy nexus [17:05] a phone that was slow the day it came out, over a year ago. [17:05] So get the S3 [17:05] vs. $299 for a nexus4, which is admitably sold out [17:06] The Nexus 4 is HTC< so it'll blow up in a year [17:06] the s3 is even more of a joke, it's $520! [17:06] also any non-nexus is an immediate deal breaker, has to be purge google. [17:06] rick_h_: help me out here, I know you understand. [17:06] with jcastro, getting sick of devices on verizon :/ [17:07] also I meant pure google, not purge google [17:07] some of us pay for the joy of software updates and devices that don't suck [17:07] OK, so you're paying $400 for a year-old phone [17:07] And getting a hell of a ddeal in the process on a month-to-month basis [17:07] N4 isn't year old and is < $400 and you can get it on GSM, have latest android, and know it'll be good for the next 2 years without an issue [17:07] ^^^^ [17:07] And you'll pay $90 a month for the privilege [17:08] 1200 to have a nice toy [17:08] with admittedly great coverage [17:08] phone is more than a toy for some :P [17:08] dude don't blame me, it's not my fault all those phones suck [17:09] vs 480 for a year for two phones [17:09] (that's about how much I pay for JoDee's dad and my phone per month) [17:09] $40 [17:09] assuming I don't get referral bonuses [17:09] right, but what's the price when your phone has no coverage and you run out of gas, or say..hit a deer in the back wood by my uncle's house :P [17:09] rick_h_: In case you hadn't noticed, Sprint is in a lot of rural areas Verizon isn't. ;) [17:09] meh, jcastro you go man. [17:10] snap-l: hey so for sure, for my parents and stuff, this is awesome [17:10] I mean, Sprint is in GR, and that's rural. ;) [17:10] snap-l: heh, was at music class surfing on my tablet while the ATT and Sprint folks couldn't get get/send a text message :) [17:10] and that's every wed night [17:11] rick_h_: Were they on iPhones ? :) [17:11] just saying it's not so clear cut for those of us that rely on the phone and coverage. [17:11] (grasping at straws, yeah) [17:11] snap-l: two iphones, one ipad, and don't know wtf the sprint phone was [17:11] AT&T coverage was shit anyway. [17:12] My iPhone was pretty useless when it wasn't on wifi [17:12] jcastro: let me know what yuo end up with. I'm thinking I might have to move back to ATT next contract [17:12] rick_h_: Why? [17:12] I am just waiting for N4's to get into stock [17:13] bring my own device and have 4g [17:13] the ATT 4g is not as good as verizon but hear it's getting better [17:13] Ph, yeah, minor detail: Sprint doesn't have 4G in this area. [17:13] and I'm sick of long waits for any software updates on my nexus [17:13] might keep a verizon mifi and get phones from ATT [17:13] well, bring my own phones that is [17:14] Didn't know ATT supported BYOD. [17:14] they don't really, you can buy a sim on contract and get it working though. It took some work but did get a sim working in my gsm mifi I bought for international travel [17:15] tmo doesn't have 4g either, it's 3.5g [17:15] yea, when I say 4g I mean LTE [17:15] they just call it 4g [17:15] because they're assholes [17:15] jcastro: I mean you'll only get 3g [17:15] There's no 4G / LTE coverage, period [17:16] ah [17:16] well, as I like to say, "I'm on tmo, I'm always on 3g." [17:16] You have to go to Ohio for 4G [17:16] I get their "4g" HSPDA or whatever in AA and RO and in most populated areas, including my house [17:17] but like, I don't care that much, all 4g means is hitting my cap faster [17:17] lol [17:17] just like the comcast commercials [17:17] jcastro: Oh, Ting doesn't have caps. [17:17] "We're faster than anyone else." [17:17] but if you do simple arithmetic you'd hit their cap in like a day. [17:18] I want to know why fucking Valprasio has 4G and we don't. [17:19] hey rick_h_, off topic for now, but do you still send things to your kindle to read offline, stuff like longer blog posts/articles? [17:19] Yeah, talking abou phone service is so on-topic. ;) [17:20] well, on-current-topic-of-discussion ;) [17:20] greg-g: no, not really. I tried to read books offline. If the article isn't worth attention now I bookmark it in case I need it but don't always go through them all [17:20] this channel should be renamed #ubunu-us-mi-offtopic, but no one would be in #ubuntu-us-mi anymore ;) [17:21] rick_h_: gotcha [17:23] tried/try that was [17:25] ah, this is kind of nice, actually: https://www.amazon.com/gp/sendtokindle/firefox [17:28] greg-g: very cool [17:29] heh, they've got the whole read it later in kindle setup. [17:33] greg-g: I thought instapaper had something to move articles to the kindle [17:34] snap-l: /me doesn't use instapaper [17:34] snap-l: but whatever works [17:34] Right, I haven't used INstapaper in a while now [17:34] I thought it was a more involved process back in the day [17:34] I just print to PDF and put it in a Dropbox folder. [17:34] it == getting things to the kindle [17:34] yea, instapaper supported it, how I used to get stuff on there [17:34] * greg-g nods [17:35] you mean you first hit up r.bmark.us and then put that in the dropbox folder? :P [17:35] Um, yeah [17:35] tried to convince John here to use bookie instead of this scrapbooking [17:35] lol [17:35] he was under the mistaken impression that Bookie didn't do images [17:36] of course all of the articles I found didn't have images. [17:36] hah [17:36] Or the parsing was wonky. [17:36] you read the wrong news sites ;) [17:36] well, so I don't pull down and store images [17:36] https://bmark.us/bmark/readable/b14e57863c22f2 [17:37] but I do try to update them to the correct links if I can [17:37] ah interesting. Should file that as a bug against breadability [17:37] sucky, works with readability. I fail [17:39] http://r.bmark.us/u/fa83e5f50cba96 does better since there's more body to it [17:39] http://r.bmark.us/u/f47105aef8de5a is pretty much ugh as well [21:27] grr, neither the Fx nor the Chrome official Send to Kindle plugins are working