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* skellat waits eagerly00:01
Cheri703Well, who all is here for the meeting?00:01
* paultag can be here00:02
Cheri703Quite the turnout!00:03
* drkokandy is here00:03
Cheri703ah, ok00:03
skellatAnd there was more than 48 hours notice this time!00:03
Cheri703Well, I'll start off with: we've recently been discussing trying to shift some focus from worrying about in-person events to having online events00:03
Cheri703Some discussion was had about video vs voice chat, and while I think mumble is a good idea, it *would* be hard to get photos of our "event" to send in00:04
Cheri703if it's a google hangout, we could at least do screenshots and such. With mumble, a screenshot of the signed in users isn't terribly impressive.00:04
Cheri703I think we'd still want to try to do ReLoCo stuff, but as far as trying to get people from larger geographical areas together, it's just not happening, so we'll go with online stuff.00:05
Cheri703Anyone have thoughts on that?00:05
Cheri703...00:06
Cheri703aaaaanyone?00:06
Cheri703crickets00:06
skellatAt this point I'm continuing to investigate video solutions and have not found anything satisfactory *yet*00:06
drkokandyI agree with trying to get ReLoCos together for some in-person events00:06
Cheri703if anyone wants to volunteer to develop an alternative to google hangouts, they're welcome to do that too ;)00:06
drkokandyBecause without doing some things in person we're wasting the geographic foundation of the LoCo00:07
Cheri703drkokandy: we need to schedule one once the temperatures are consistently above 20 degrees again...it's too stinking cold to go anywhere right now00:07
drkokandythat is true00:07
Cheri703true drkokandy, but as spread out as we are, the geographic foundation is...tenuous00:07
skellatI've still got Lake Effect Snow Warning going until 10 AM tomorrow.  Wind chills have been hazardous to human flesh for anything but minimal time lengths of exposure.00:08
* skellat had to go shovel out family cars before tonight's meeting00:08
Cheri703Oh, actually: I'll be in Cleveland the evening of 02/15 because I have to spend the night at the airport, if any ubuntu clevelanders wanted to hang out or grab dinner, I'd be game :)00:09
Cheri703I would like to do things in person, and had hopes of doing that at one time, but we seem to be getting sparser and sparser as far as people who actively participate.00:09
Cheri703I'd like to see some life in the mailing list/forums at some point.00:09
skellatWe had fairly good IRC activity today00:10
drkokandywe've had a more active IRC than usual these past couple of weeks or so00:10
Cheri703yeah, but we have LOTS AND LOTS of people who are technically members of u-ohio and we have 21 signed in to chat right now00:10
Cheri703so...irc isn't exactly reaching the masses00:11
skellatNo, it isn't00:11
skellatThen again, how many of the 400+ members actually have any connection or contact with the LoCo at large?00:12
Cheri703not many00:12
Cheri703Do we have a u-ohio g+ group? does anyone know?00:13
drkokandynot one that I'm a part of00:13
skellatI don't use G+00:13
Cheri703I think a lot of ubuntu folks are on g+, so probably could poke around there00:13
skellatWe have an Identica group that paultag is the owner of00:13
paultagchallah00:13
paultagOh man00:13
paultagI can transfer00:13
Cheri703yeah...identica is....fairly dead afaik00:13
Cheri703?00:13
paultagskellat: seeing as how you're an identica master, I'll chown to you00:13
skellatIdentica is fairly alive Cheri703 and is still being developed00:14
Cheri703I've heard of a lot of people having issues with it00:14
Cheri703so I dunno00:14
skellatpaultag: We'll talk about that separately as we may need Evan involved00:14
paultagack00:14
Cheri703I think g+ is rapidly becoming a hub of ubuntu stuff00:14
paultagerm, hurm00:15
paultagskellat: http://identi.ca/group/ubuntuohio ← I'm not an admin D:00:15
skellatIdentica is getting set to archive about 80% of the accounts as they're inactive and the data is going to go to Archive.org.  The active accounts remain active.00:15
skellatpaultag: Crap!  I'll contact Evan separately so I can take control of that myself.00:15
paultagack00:16
skellatCheri703: I thought we had a Page on G+ back during one or the other of my abortive attempts to use the service.  I wonder if we still do.00:17
Cheri703looks like bioselement made a page00:18
Cheri703I'll reach out to him00:18
drkokandyOh, found one: https://plus.google.com/116070181546687340819/posts00:18
drkokandyhere's the community: https://plus.google.com/communities/11357625327221611477200:19
Cheri703sent a message00:20
Cheri703hopefully we can get that going a bit00:20
skellatI've pinged Evan via Identica to see if I can take control of the group there00:20
Cheri703So: Goals for this next month: Try to get some online presence going, whether g+, identica, mailing list, forum, also try to get some sort of local events moving in some capacity somewhere. Mansfield will have one this coming month, if any other areas can get SOMETHING to happen, that'd be great. Even if it's a "I will be at x location at y time with my computer and able to give demos" and have like a sign on your table or something. I dunno00:22
Cheri703. SOMETHING that is contact with the outside world. :)00:22
Cheri703I will probably post something to the mailing list tonight just to try to get some conversation going00:22
Cheri703well...will probably post within the next week or so. big work thing going on so my brain is a bit...wobbly00:23
Cheri703anyone have any other thoughts on that?00:23
skellatNope.00:23
skellatI'll be running the educational session next Monday at 10 PM Eastern00:24
Cheri703Everyone can participate in getting things going on the mailing list btw ;)00:24
Cheri703awesome!00:24
skellatI'll be posting the slide deck to SlideShare00:24
skellatWhat metric do we want to use to measure the success of the event?00:26
Cheri703I think for the level of participation we usually get to events, HAVING the event is a success. :)00:26
skellatOkay00:26
skellatPING: Unit193 jrgifford canthus13 jacob00:27
Cheri703I'm serious! We haven't done something like that before, so I consider it a positive thing to be doing it at all :)00:27
skellatAlrighty00:27
skellatIs there anything paultag can share with us about the state of Debian efforts relative to Wheezy?00:28
paultagcurrent RC bug squash rates place release at about 3 months out00:29
paultagif you'd like to see it sooner, fix bugs :)00:29
paultagBSP I'm helping run in Boston @ MIT this weekend00:29
paultagquestions? :)00:29
skellatSo we're looking at April instead of February then00:29
paultagyeah, sadly00:29
paultagthere were some RC bugs found late in freeze00:30
paultagand it's set us back a bit, I think.00:30
paultaghelp is welcome, and as always I'd be glad to help anyone get involved00:30
skellatAnd for the record I'll remind folks across the LoCo that efforts to aid Debian in squashing bugs do trickle down to help Ubuntu00:30
Cheri703Alright, any other topics for tonight?00:31
skellatAny recent contacts with the LoCo Council?00:32
Cheri703talked with cz<tab> unofficially a few weeks ago00:32
Cheri703result of that convo was the push toward ANY activity, then working out in-person activity later00:33
skellatLaura Czajkowski, you mean?00:34
* paultag chuckles00:34
Cheri703yeah00:34
skellatAlrighty00:34
skellatCheri703: Could you ask Laura Czajkowski in her Launchpad-related capacity about whether or not it is possible to change the LoCo team's settings so that e-mail cannot be turned off?00:35
Cheri703I think that with spam and opt-in/out regulations we can't force email on anyone00:36
skellatDarn00:36
skellatOkay00:36
skellatI've got nothing else00:36
Cheri703I know that if I'd opted out of email and suddenly started getting it again, I'd be SUPER mad00:36
Cheri703so...yeah00:36
Cheri703ok. I guess that wraps things up for the meeting. I'll (as always) be idling in here, so if anyone has thoughts , feel free to toss them out!00:37
skellatThen we stand adjourned, I guess? Our next meeting is our educational session on Monday at 10 PM.00:38
Cheri703Yep. Have a good night folks!00:38
drkokandysounds great! Good night all!00:40
Unit193skellat: Pong. :P01:33
jrgiffordskellat: sorry!01:45
jrgiffordCheri703: so you'll be in cleveland-ish huh?01:45
Cheri703yeah, I'm flying out early saturday morning, and rather than deal with trying to get someone to drive me to cleveland at 5am, I'm going up friday night and I'll just find somewhere to sleep in the airport01:46
jrgiffordhm. i think i'm busy, but i'll check01:46
Cheri703yeah, 02/1501:46
Cheri703if no one is around, no worries, just figured I'd mention it :)01:46
jrgiffordok01:48
andygraybeal_aye, morning10:37
thafreakMorning Ohio14:58
yanoHello Wisconsin^WOhio!15:43
dzhohi y'all15:44
Cheri703I think I decided on xubuntu for my long-term trial15:56
paultagugh, goddamnit15:59
paultagI think someone took my Ubuntu mug from my Desk :(15:59
paultagI'm peeved, I liked that mug.15:59
jrgifford:\17:25
paultagit's the downside of working @ a loft18:50
paultaga lot of talks and stuff are held here and randors just walk through coworking18:50
paultagfucking annoying18:50
canthus13paultag: the upside being you can nail the asshat that keeps undoing your changes with a coffee cup from across the room. :)18:59
paultag:)19:22
dzhoif you can *find* your coffee cup, that is19:25
dzhoseek out one, you may find the other due to a pre-emptive move ;-)19:26
thafreakwhat the hell...i was trying to use virtualbox...20:30
thafreakand my computer went nuts20:30
thafreakswapping like no one's business20:30
thafreakI look, and I have like 2gb of free ram...but 2gb of swap being used!20:30
thafreakturned my swap off20:30
Unit193I'm trying out zswap, and I'll say it's pretty helpful when the computer starts swapping out.20:31
thafreakwhat does that do? just compress the swap?20:31
Unit193http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI1MDM or even better: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/fe313521-2e95-46f2-817d-44a4f27eba32/entry/new_linux_zswap_compression_functionality7?lang=en20:35
canthus1349.5MB for a 140 page manual? LG, you're really, really doing it wrong.21:25
Unit193But you need hi-res images!21:26
canthus13heh.  ALso, 140 freaking pages to use your TV? Seriously.21:26
dzhoTV is probably more powerful than $REALLY_OLD_BUT_FAMOUS_COMPUTER22:30
jrgiffordprobably23:09
dzhoI sort of want to try fuzzing our flatscreen TV or our digital video box thingie23:12

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