anthony__no. didnt work00:00
rajke88hi people00:01
SonikkuAmerica__Quick one: Can I get to the 13.04 beta using [ update-manager -c -d ] yet in 12.10?00:01
rajke88did anyone tried new ati drivers on Ubuntu 12.10?00:02
beandpurgert: it is, but linux doesn't use it.00:02
jrib!13.04 | SonikkuAmerica__00:02
ubottuSonikkuAmerica__: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+100:02
beananthony__: what did it display00:02
SonikkuAmerica__jrib: Didn't know there was a channel for it... lol00:02
dpurgertbean, ah ... that explains it00:02
SonikkuAmerica__I typically like getting my hands on raw stuff00:02
anthony__it said the connection timed out. no server could be reached00:02
beananthony__: okay.00:03
beandpurgert: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5735 RFC 5735 it seems00:03
beandpurgert: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3927 too00:04
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beananthony__: and your eth0 is set to use DHCP right?00:04
dpurgertbean, so it is out there ... just not used ... and now to brush up on netmasks because I suck at them :)00:04
anthony__m not sure. how would i check00:05
craigbass1976What port is update running on?  I'm wondering if I'm getting blocked on a school network.00:05
beancraigbass1976: it should just be using http00:05
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craigbass1976bean, thought so... just checking00:05
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edward-sanhi, I have Ubuntu 12.04 and I'd like to use the svn version of gcc 4.6.3. Is it there a package repository with this?00:07
ActionParsnip!ppa | edward-san00:08
ubottuedward-san: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge00:08
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anthony__my xbox works fine on it. and my computer worked fine on it too before i put 11.10 back on it00:20
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ActionParsnipdpurgert: 169.254 is the dhcp fail subnet00:21
ActionParsnipdpurgert: what ethernet chip is it?00:22
ActionParsnipanthony__: ^00:22
slacktivisti'm downloading ubuntu server 12.04 at 20kbps.  Is this a ploy to make me buy the CDs?00:23
beananthony__: what made you decide on on 11.1000:23
anthony__do u meanwhat00:23
ActionParsnipslacktivist: tried a different source?00:23
beananthony__: current ubuntu is 12.04 for LTS and 12.10 for non-lts00:23
dpurgertActionParsnip, wha? I didn't break anything ... at least I don't think so ...00:23
ActionParsnipdpurgert: just an fyi :)00:24
anthony__because it worked the best out of all the verions i had00:24
edward-sanhmm, I forgot about the gcc-snapshot package... I don't need to go unsecure00:24
west333anthony__ you could try  sudo lshw -c network  that should bring up all of the network info,  then get the chipset name and the driver name00:24
slacktivistActionParsnip, there is no other source listed on the download page.00:24
ultreiaanthony__ > you mentioned your xbox working fine. does your dsl modem (or dsl modem) have more than one place to plug in an ethernet cable, or are you just using one single modem/router plug for various things?00:24
ActionParsnipslacktivist: you can use cdimage site00:24
ActionParsnipslacktivist: torrents will run a lot faster00:24
dpurgertActionParsnip, I know this ... the argument was "Ubuntu (or linux ...?) doesn't use it"00:24
slacktivist?cdimage? ActionParsnip ?00:25
ActionParsnipslacktivist: yes00:25
biancawhat do i do if im installing something in the software manager and it gets stuck half way, it says applying changes00:25
histoslacktivist: cdimage.ubuntu.com00:25
slacktivistthanks histo and ActionParsnip00:25
anthony__it has multiple ports00:25
ActionParsnipslacktivist: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cdimage+ubuntu   too hard?00:26
ultreiaanthony__ > ok, so it's probably a router and not just a modem00:26
slacktivistActionParsnip, that would really help if there were actually torrents for 12.0400:27
slacktivistnot desktop00:27
biancaarggh -_-00:27
ultreiaanthony__ > next question. if you attach your 11.10 pc and boot, what exactly does "ifconfig" say?00:27
edward-san...wow, last time gcc-snapshot was updated was almost one year ago00:27
ActionParsnip!torrents | slacktivist00:28
ubottuslacktivist: Quantal can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/desktop/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/quantal/server/ubuntu-12.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696900:28
anthony__do u want me to reboot or put in ifconfig00:28
bairuihow do i install a package from Quantal on Precise?00:28
ActionParsnipslacktivist: there are torrents of all releases00:29
ActionParsnipbairui: you don't00:29
histo!backports | bairui00:29
ubottubairui: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging00:29
ultreiaanthony__ > if it's already running and has been connected since it's last boot, then just put in "ifconfig"00:29
bairuithank you, histo00:29
ActionParsnipbairui: find a PPA or use a backport, you will make a mess of your packages and have a halfway monster between Precise and Quantal which we cannot support00:29
bairuiActionParsnip: it was the PPA thing i was angling for. Thanks. I'll read the backports link and come back if i can't figure it out. I want the 1.5 version of python-pygments.00:30
ActionParsnip!ppa | bairui00:30
ubottubairui: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge00:30
ActionParsnipbairui: great search box in that link, or use the !ppa bang on duckduckgo :)00:31
bairuicool :)00:31
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ActionParsnipbairui: very cool00:31
biancacan someone help me? i tryed installing something in the software center but it go stuck saying applying changes, then i restarded and tryed to remove and now its stuck again saying applying changes00:32
beanoh jeez, bianca: never stop it when its in the middle of things00:32
ActionParsnipbianca: what are you installing?00:32
anthony__it has eth0 and lo with things after each00:32
ultreiaanthony__ > under the "eth0" section, does it list anything resembling an ip address?00:32
biancahow do i fix it..00:32
ActionParsnip!aptfix | bianca00:32
ubottubianca: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »00:32
ActionParsnipbianca: try that ^00:32
biancado i cllose the software center first?00:33
ultreiaanthony__ > I mean, are there any sets of 4 numbers separated by dots?00:33
ActionParsnipbianca: yes00:34
biancaum.. it worked except i went and tryed to remove playonlinux again and now its stuck again lol00:34
jhutchinsultreia: We established over an hour ago that he didn't have an ipv4 on eth0, he tried dhclient and it timed out, we've never confirmed he has an actual connection by looking at the link lights.00:35
beanbianca: things dont complete instantly00:35
anthony__no just one with a mix of letters and numbers separated by colons. im starting to think it was a bad install of the os. cause my usb wont even mount00:36
biancadpkg: error: --configure --pending does not take any non-option arguments00:36
biancai get that when i put that command00:36
beananthony__: you could try 12.04 or 12.10 instead00:36
e2580hi, anyone know a rule based way i can control my media player, example, if id tag for artist contains "justin bieber", then skip next track? Im using clementine for a media player, i may be open to other players that support this but i prefer a generic approach.00:36
ultreiaanthony__ > does your modem/router have any brand/model number on it?00:37
jhutchinsultreia: Why would that matter?00:37
kunaishurikenHello everyone.00:37
jhutchinsultreia: He either doesn't have a physical connection - bad cable or not seated - or there's a problem with the driver.  Since he won't answer simple direct questions I think we're just wasting channel bandwidth.00:38
anthony__my routervis a westell 750000:38
kunaishurikenDoes anyone know how to multiseat with tty, but NOT X?00:38
ultreiajhutchins- I am thinking that anthony's dsl box might have multiple ports but still be just a dsl modem, in which case his isp might be filtering connections based on mac address, with his xbox being the currently accepted mac address00:39
anthony__bean: i tried those. they didnt work well with my computer. thats y i came back to 11.1000:39
kunaishurikenI've been wanting to set up an Ubuntu server at my school00:39
escottkunaishuriken, don't run X00:39
djshotglassjust installed ubuntu and whenever the screen turns off it wont come back on00:40
djshotglassi have to reboot00:40
djshotglassi am ssh'd into the machine its online00:40
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djshotglassbut moving mouse/hitting keys wont turn screen00:40
djshotglassi dont want to reboot it00:40
biancaits stuck at exactly halfway00:41
ultreiajhutchins- would that make any sense?00:41
kunaishurikenhow??? Every tutorial I've seen for multiseat involves running the X server00:41
anthony__dont talk shit jhutchinson. the connections fine. link lights and all. im answering the questions. but im not going to type everything out from the terminal00:41
cjae_how do I make firefox stop using nautilus filemanager00:41
beankunaishuriken: ssh00:42
djshotglasssunshineinn@X3470:~$ xset dpms force on00:42
djshotglassxset:  unable to open display ""00:42
escottkunaishuriken, just uninstall the X server or add "text" to your boot options00:42
escottdjshotglass, DISPLAY=:0 xset dpms force on00:42
jribdjshotglass: what are you trying to do ?00:42
djshotglassturn on my monitor00:42
bianca!language kunaishuriken00:42
djshotglassvia ssh00:42
kunaishurikenescott, thanks I got it00:43
djshotglassi cant turn it on with keyboard or mouse00:43
jribdjshotglass: did you see escott's suggestion?00:43
biancacan anyone help me?00:44
djshotglassyes didnt error but didnt turn on monitor either00:44
beanbianca: what is going on now00:44
biancaits still stuck00:44
ultreiaanthony__ > was your xbox already up and running and connected to your dsl modem when you booted ubuntu?00:44
biancait wont install..00:44
bairuiin case I'm not seeing the danger, is there anything scary about me installing this PPA on my precise system for the 1.5 version of pygments?   https://launchpad.net/~mitya57/+archive/test100:44
beanbianca: are you attempting to install via apt / aptitude or synaptic00:44
anthony__h comtuer connected fine before i put 11.10 on it. my tablet connects fine too. my router has 4 etho out. and  1 dsl in00:45
ezrafreehello, can anyone tell me the best way to achieve virtual users for my e-mail system in ubuntu?00:45
jribdjshotglass: what's « xset q » returning?00:45
biancathe ubuntu software center00:45
ultreiaanthony__ > that wasn't the question. What exactly was running and connected to the dsl modem when you boot up your ubuntu pc?00:46
escottdjshotglass, if you are going to be playing around with display :0 from the tty you probably want to export the DISPLAY variable00:46
anthony__y xbox wasnton but it was connectwd. it cant be the HW of the computer cause it connected to the internet with12.1000:47
anthony__the computer00:47
beanbianca: then you could stop software center, and do the !aptfix from earlier00:48
ultreiaanthony__ > the point I'm trying to make is that the first machine you boot after you power up your dsl modem, wins and gets the ip address. everything else loses and gets nothing00:48
biancaoh it finally worked! i guess im just impatient00:48
beanbianca: andthen use apt-get install packagename00:48
anthony__then y did everything work fine before. i was using my compute,  tablet and xbox all at the same time. my computer wont connect to the network at all. not just the internet. the router itself00:51
Annette01Hey guys, im a little stuck here, i just installed ubuntu but my computer just boots to windows without getting to a bootloader or anything00:51
beanbianca: like i said, nothing is instant00:52
ultreiaanthony__ > ok. maybe your ethernet card is fried, and it concidentally happened at exactly the same time as when you reinstalled 11.1000:52
ultreiaanthony__ > or maybe one of the little wires in the ethernet cable chose that moment to break00:53
anthony__would it stilll show up in terminal after a sudo command if it was fried?00:53
ultreiaanthony__ > the only way to be sure it's not hardware is to reinstall 12.x, at least for a little while00:54
anthony__i tried 2 etho coords00:54
ultreiaanthony__ > at least boot the live cd00:54
e2580hi, anyone know a rule based way i can control my media player, example, if id tag for artist contains "justin bieber", then skip next track? Im using clementine for a media player, i may be open to other players that support this but i prefer a generic approach.00:54
ultreiaanthony__ > if you boot the 12.x live cd and it's working, then you know the problem isn't HW00:55
archdoes anyone need help00:55
archim an ubuntu pro00:55
Annette01I need help @_@00:56
archwhat do you need help with, m'lady?00:56
Annette01I installed ubuntu using a dvd, and it doesnt boot00:56
ultreiaanthony__ > if the problem is software and you really really hate 12.x, then find another distro. Ubuntu isn't the only one00:56
Annette01it boots to windows instead00:56
Annette01no bootloader or anything00:56
archyeah thats cuz ur a noob00:56
Annette01That was...helpful.00:57
Annette01Thank you.00:57
bairuiafter doing   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:blah   and   sudo aptitude update   why do I not see the added repo in the update stream? I do have the corresponding   /etc/apt/sources.list.d/blah.list00:57
ezrafreeonce i have postfix installed, how can i test sending an email over the localhost?00:57
anthony__i dont have a cd for 12. i updated from 12.4. i started at 11.04. and did updates tov12.10. the cd for 11.04 doesnt work anymore. i had to download  11..10 to a flash drive and install thst00:58
beanarch: please be helpful00:58
ultreiaAnnette01- after installing, did you install and configure grub2?00:58
Annette01I dont think so. I installed it and it asked to restart and to remove the install media and hit enter. I did as it asked and ten it rebooted and i was back in windows00:58
icerootezrafree: echo "mailtext" | mail -s "subjecttest" mail@localhost00:58
icerootezrafree: replace the text with your needs00:59
beanAnnette01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows00:59
ezrafreeiceroot: ahh, ok, so i do need the "mailutils" package then00:59
ezrafreethanks iceroot00:59
icerootezrafree: should be installed by default if i am correct00:59
beanAnnette01: i realize that it says windows, but it still applys00:59
ultreiaanthony__ > I thought you said you did a clean reinstall of 11?01:00
beanarch: do you need help with something? if not you should probably do that.01:00
beanarch: probably leave*01:00
beanbecause you're a troll01:00
archim here to help the n00booboos01:01
Annette01thank you bean, Ill be able to access windows after this still right? Im kinda new to this and im not ready to just lose all my data.01:01
beanAnnette01: assuming that you installed ubuntu correctly, yes.01:01
ezrafreeiceroot: hmm, i am running ubuntu server 12.04 and it does not seem to be there by default. np though, i just installed it.01:01
beanarch: you didnt though, you just called someone a noob.01:01
Annette01Thank you bean and ultreia :)01:01
icerootezrafree: ah ok, good to know, thought its default, specially on the server version01:01
ultreiayou are welcome01:01
icerootarch: stop it01:01
anthony__i said i did a complete uninstall/reinstall. when it booted from the flash i chose "replace existing os"01:02
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thetinyjesusCould someone explain to me the benefit (if any) of going with Ubuntu over Linux Mint01:02
archanthony_ nobody cares01:02
archstupid noobooboos01:02
ultreiaanthony__ > have you still got the flash drive? and have you got nothing important to lose on that harddrive?01:02
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iceroot!ops | arch01:03
ubottuarch: please see above01:03
compdocthetinyjesus, good support. many packages available.01:03
icerootthetinyjesus: personal preference i would say, ubuntu has the larger community01:03
anthony__i no what ur thinkin. im doin it now01:04
elkyarch stop that01:04
thetinyjesusoops sorry didnt see chat01:04
thetinyjesusis there things that are compatible with ubuntu that are not with linux mint?01:04
archstupid nooboontus01:04
elkythetinyjesus, ubuntu users get to get support from this large community. mint users have to try find someone in their small community.01:04
ultreiaanthony__ > if you have nothing to lose on the entire drive, no windows at all, there is a command "dd" which should be used before reinstalling ubuntu01:04
thetinyjesuselky: is it because the two are not compatible with each other?01:05
beanultreia: not really...01:05
icerootthetinyjesus: they are not supported here01:05
icerootthetinyjesus: so if you are facing issues with mint you have to use other support ressources01:05
bean!derivatives | thetinyjesus01:05
ubottuthetinyjesus: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)01:05
anthony__so go into terminal and put in dd?01:05
elkythetinyjesus, no, but we ubuntu users don't know all the mint changes, so we can't give support for it01:05
icerootthetinyjesus: but normally they are compatible01:05
icerootthetinyjesus: i would suggest to try out ubuntu01:06
beananthony__: no, i would just reinstall, and just be sure to tell it to use the whole disk, not "replace" just use entire disk01:06
elkythetinyjesus, the same way redhat won't support centos01:06
thetinyjesusiceroot: the problem I had with ubuntu is i really disliked unity after using it for a couple weeks, and really enjoyed cinnamon otherwise i'd just use ubuntu01:06
ultreiaanthony__ > what you would do is boot the flash drive, and enter the "dd" command from it's console, before installing01:06
beanultreia: why, there's no point01:06
beanultreia: the disk is going to get formatted anyways01:07
ultreiabean- it will by default get a quick format which doesn't erase any of the garbage already there01:07
beanultreia: i question whether you know what you're talking about there.01:08
anthony__ok.dovi hit"try ubuntu"? how do i get to the console01:08
thetinyjesusas far as stability goes, are they equals to each other, as in ubuntu releases an update will linux mint receive the same update or does mint specifically go through the updates and choose which ones they want to add01:08
ultreiaanthony__ > ask bean01:08
icerootthetinyjesus: you should ask the mint channel how they handle updates01:08
icerootthetinyjesus: mint is not supported here01:08
iceroot!mint | thetinyjesus01:09
ubottuthetinyjesus: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:09
beananthony__: just go to "install ubuntu"01:09
elkythetinyjesus, the bits you touch will be mint changes and they can't just get those from ubuntu developers. you'd have to wait for mint to fix the problems01:09
thetinyjesusiceroot: alright, last question is ubuntu 12.04 more stable and smoother running than 12.10? i know its a long term release but are there features in 12.10 that make it run better01:09
beananthony__: and from there go through stuff until you get to "Installation type", from there do the "Erase Disk and install ubuntu" option01:09
beanbetter is a very relative term, thetinyjesus01:10
thetinyjesusbean: better to me would be smoother running, faster response, i don't care about having to reinstall sooner than LT editions01:11
icerootthetinyjesus: i would say 12.04 is more stable then 12.1001:11
thetinyjesusbean: also more universal compatible I say this because for example on Steam's website they say to download 12.04 not 12.1001:11
icerootthetinyjesus: its tested for a longer time, its using better tested software (older)01:12
ultreiathetinyjesus, if Steam is important to you, that would be major consideration01:12
icerootthetinyjesus: steam is working fine here on 12.04 but the games are running better on 12.10 because 12.10 comes with a newer xorg-intel package01:12
anthony__ok imdoing it nowok01:13
thetinyjesusiceroot: is it true that you should never upgrade your linux distribution only fresh install, also as far as older software goes would that mean when firefox / google chrome release updates 12.04 will not get for a longer period of time01:13
ultreiathetinyjesus- upgrade are like rolling dice01:13
beanthetinyjesus: you can upgrade ubuntu installations. I know that Mint recommends a clean install01:13
beanYeah, I don't really /like/ doing upgrades to be honest.01:14
icerootthetinyjesus: upgrades are working ok, no need for fresh installed01:14
beanA bit scary...01:14
beanI actually tried a 10.04 -> 12.04 a while back01:14
beanon a vm01:14
beandidn't end well01:14
icerootthetinyjesus: normally a program will never get a major update just a security update but there are a few exceptions like browsers, mailclients (thunderbird), libreoffice and so on01:14
icerootthetinyjesus: but the base-system will not hit major-updates within one ubuntu release01:14
thetinyjesusbean: so technically with ubuntu i could install 12.10, and when a beta of 13.04 comes out i could "upgrade" to that and as new betas come out it will be a rolling update so once 13.04 was fully released I would already have all the files?01:15
ultreiathetinyjesus- does Steam only recommend buntu?01:15
icerootthetinyjesus: yes01:15
icerootultreia: yes01:15
beanthetinyjesus: i suppose you could, yes.01:15
beanthetinyjesus: keep in mind that 13.04 is only supported in #ubuntu+1 though01:16
thetinyjesusiceroot: so ubuntu 12.04 would use older versions of firefox etc, 12.10 would use a newer version but i would have to manually install the newest version of those programs ?01:16
icerootthetinyjesus: no01:16
thetinyjesusbean: as in if i had issues i would use a different IRC channel ?01:16
anthony__i tried booting from te flash but it did the hdd first instead. i have the boot sequence as removables first.ill take the hdd off thensequence all together and se wheere thst gets me01:16
icerootthetinyjesus: programs like browsers (as i said) will hit major updates within one ubuntu release01:16
thetinyjesusiceroot: oh my bad dude01:16
icerootthetinyjesus: software-center will inform you about new versions and will install them01:17
iceroot!info firefox precise01:17
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 18.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 (precise), package size 23122 kB, installed size 48584 kB01:17
beanthetinyjesus: i'd install 12.04, and if you ever think you're really behind, do the upgrade.01:17
bean!info chromium01:17
icerootthetinyjesus: as you see 12.04 has firefox 18.0.101:17
ubottuPackage chromium does not exist in quantal01:17
beanbah, right01:17
ultreiawhen did mozilla suddenly become "safe"?01:17
beanthats from google.01:17
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icerootbean: chromium-browser is the package name01:17
bean!info chromium-browser01:17
ubottuchromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 23.0.1271.97-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 (quantal), package size 24472 kB, installed size 89519 kB01:18
beanmy google chrome is 24.0, on windows01:18
beana little bit beind but not really01:18
thetinyjesusmy chrome says Version 24.0.1312.5601:18
beanactually apparently mine is updating as we speak. heh01:18
icerootthetinyjesus: chrome != chromium-browser01:19
anthony__its not even noticing my usb. fml today.01:19
thetinyjesusreally appreciate everyone's support in helping me understand linux better01:19
ultreiathetinyjesus- if you question the choice of ubuntu or mint, give mint a try for while?01:19
thetinyjesusultreia: i am, but i did something wrong and am going to have to reinstall linux so I want the more supported version01:20
ultreiathetinyjesus- what happened wrong with mint?01:20
thetinyjesusultreia: i installed some themes that automatically installed and corrupted something because it's running rubbish now01:21
ultreiathetinyjesus- you could try mint a second time w/o those themes?01:21
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org01:22
tatshi, i was running ubuntu precise 12.04 (running unity as my windows manager) and I just did an upgrade to 12.10. at login my GUI is basically gone: I only see the background. no widget, no menu, nothing.01:22
ultreiaupgrades are like a (russian) roulette wheel01:23
tatsultreia: I don't know: i always get the bullet.01:23
ultreiatats- the bad news is you can't downgrade back to 12.0401:25
crazycory22can someone help me please?01:25
escottcrazycory22, only if you ask01:26
ultreiacrazycory22- what seems to be the problem?01:26
crazycory22I'm new to Ubuntu.  I ran Ubuntu 11.10 for a couple of weeks, and had my computer auto update to Ubuntu 12.04.  My dell 1395 wifi card WAS working in 11.10, in 12.04 i go to install the STA drivers and I get this error message in the log01:27
crazycory22"2013-01-16 02:20:17,515 DEBUG: BroadcomWLHandler enabled(): kmod enabled, bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted01:27
crazycory222013-01-16 02:20:25,264 DEBUG: Shutting down"01:27
ultreiacrazycory22- sounds like you should un=blacklist those mods01:28
nopoliticacrazycory22: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | grep b4301:28
bairuiok; assuming there are no PPAs for python-pygments version 1.5 for Precise, what is the recommended way to install this version on Precise?01:29
crazycory22on the CLI this is what it said "# Replaced by b43 and ssb.01:29
crazycory22it has "b43" in red01:30
escottcrazycory22, thats a comment01:30
beanbairui: why not use 1.6?01:30
linuxgeckocrazycory22:    I'm here..   i have a solution to help.01:30
bairui1.6 would be fine - is it available for Precise?01:30
escottcrazycory22, try grep -C5 b43 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf01:30
LucenutI'm trying to get used to this Pidgin. But I can't figure out how to run off the balloons every time a friend signs on!01:31
crazycory22wtf is it telling me about a garmin_gps driver?01:31
hotfungihow would I go about encrypting my entire hard drive for / during a fresh Ubuntu installation?01:32
hotfungiis there a guide somewhere? I'm failing at google01:32
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tatsultreia: is there a way for me to at least verify wether the upgrade went fine or not? make sure everything was installed?01:32
ubottuFor information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory01:33
ultreiatats- obviously everything isn't fine01:33
escotthotfungi, you want an encrypted luks partition there should be docs for that on the main ubuntu pages.01:33
toterHi… Does anyone know how to remove these annoying bluetooth messages from startup? http://pastebin.com/FN1wFkLD01:34
toterI tried almost everything01:34
hotfungicls, Ben64 , escott , thank you all01:35
Ben64toter: some lines in a log affect you?01:35
ultreiatats- fixing a corrupted upgrade is beyond my skills01:35
tatsultreia: i know but i want to make sure that every package was properly installed during the upgrade. there was an interruption (my computer froze) during the upgrade process so i'd like to make sure the packages were installed before looking into other things.01:35
Lucenuthotfungi, I think in xubuntu it;s an option in the installer.01:36
tatsultreia: beyond mine as well ... :/01:36
toterBen64: So i have to disable rsyslog then?01:36
anthony__im just havin a shit day with technology01:36
hotfungiLucenut, that'd be awesome- I'll look into it, thanks01:36
Ben64tats: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop01:37
ultreiatats- for whether the packages installed ok, try the file "/var/log/dpkg.log" and see if it has any errors near the end01:37
appamattoWhy aren't there any USB memstick images?01:37
Ben64toter: i'm trying to figure out why you care, it doesn't affect performance or anything01:37
hotfungiLucenut, looks like it's an option on standard Ubuntu 12.10 installs too?01:37
clsappamatto just download the normal ISO and make it a bootable cd ?01:37
Bacon3www.niggertube.com || YOU ARE ALL FAGGOTS01:40
tatsBen64: installing ubuntu-desktop solved part of the issue: i now can see my desktop. still no menus though. i'll try deleting my .gnome and .compiz folders01:41
west333appamatto: you could install unetbootin.exe and download the liveCD image and then use that to burn the ISO to the USB stick01:41
appamattocls How?01:41
crazycory22how do i get open sshd started?01:41
appamattoI don't understand why they don't just provide memstick images01:41
escottcrazycory22, it should start automatically if openssh-server is installed. you can also sudo service ssh start01:42
west333because the ISO is a compressed format  it would take up too much bandwidth01:42
h00kcrazycory22: sudo service ssh start01:42
crazycory22ty.  it is already started.  just not smart enough to realize that01:43
crazycory22someone is going to try to ssh into my computer to help me fix this stupid thing01:44
tatsno, it's not working. still no menus or dashboard01:45
ultreiahow are they going to ssh into a computer with no working networking?01:45
LucenutCan someone tell me how to turn off the balloons in pidgin when a friend comes online?01:45
crazycory22it is connected via wire01:46
west333speaking of networking  did we get anthony__ fixed up?01:46
ultreiano, Anthony left in despair01:46
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west333ahhh  :(01:46
crazycory22he had me install sshd, and screen01:46
west333I had some ides , but wasn't sure how far you and bean etal got with him01:47
Ben64tats: what if you create a new user and log in as it01:47
ultreiaI got told all my ideas were stupid and didn't apply in Anthony's real situation, so I gave up01:47
xanguaLucenut: tools, plugins, search for Libnotify plugin and disable the start session messages (not good idea to disable the plugin itself if you are using unity)01:48
west333hmmm , ya I would have sat back too01:48
tatsBen64: will try01:48
tatsnope. same problem.01:49
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Lucenutxangua, is that in pidgin or in ubuntu?01:50
Ben64tats: what session are you logging in to01:50
xanguaLucenut: yes, the tool menu01:50
ultreiaatats- did the package install log show any errors from the upgrade?01:50
ultreiatats- (sorry) did the package install log show any errors from the upgrade?01:51
LucenutBeautiful thanks xangua01:51
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tatsultreia: no, I didn't see any, but there's a lot of stuff so I might have been missing it.01:52
crazycory22how do i start screen?01:53
lupinis there a reason it says 32bit is recommended? as far as i know computers haven't been 32 bit in quite some time01:53
tatsBen64: sorry, I don't know how to check that.01:53
Ben64lupin: 64 bit doesn't work on 32 bits01:53
Ben64tats: when you log in, click the ubuntu icon01:53
Ben64before you log in*01:54
lupinBen64: that is it? there isn't any true benefit from 32 bit other than people who have no clue on what hardware they're using?01:54
Ben64it'll give you choices like "Ubuntu" "Ubuntu 2d" or others01:54
Ben64lupin: right01:54
ultreialupin, 64 isn't 100% "mature" yet, unless you are using an AMD6401:54
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tatsBen64, ultreia: I think I might have get it fixed. by running sudo apt-get install unity (duh). I just don't get why the upgrade removed it. at least the menus are back. let me check if everything is back to normal.01:55
lupinultreia: i'm using an intel i501:55
escottultreia, what?01:55
escottlupin, use the 64bit image unless you have a small amount of ram <2GB or so01:55
lupinescott: i5 with 4gb ram nvidia graphics01:56
Ben64i'd say use the 64bit anyway, its easier to upgrade ram than architecture01:56
crazycory22i have 4gb and had to use the 32bit...even though i have an AMD Turion 64bit processor01:56
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ultreia64 is always pretty perfect on an AMD64, on other chipsets sometimes there are HW issues because Intel is only faking AMD's 64 bit implementation01:56
Ben64ultreia: um...01:56
escottlupin, having 64bit really isn't about how much ram you have so much as the additional registers and instructions available only in x86-6401:56
kewelI got minitube installed in lubuntu, now I do I add an icon in the menu bar?01:57
PatrickDickeykewel: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu might help. It talks about adding entries to the Main Menu on LXDE (Lubuntu's desktop)01:58
kewelpatrickdickey: wonderful, thankyou!01:59
west333My DT is an AMD64 athlon 4600+  never an issue running 64 bit  *nix02:00
west333my 2 lappies are 32 bit tho02:00
west333those 2 are running  Lubuntu02:01
PatrickDickeywest333: are they having problems?02:01
west333mine no , I was referrencing a remark in the forum02:02
PatrickDickeyAhh ok. I missed that (since I just joined).02:02
ultreiawell, you must go with 64 if you have more than 4gb ram02:03
ezrafreecan anyone recommend whether or not postfix+dovecot is the way to go if i want virtual users/domains?02:04
ultreiaRobot Devil !02:07
PatrickDickeyezrafree: I'm not sure how well it works for that, but I use it for sending logs from my home server to my gmail account. It's pretty easy to set up.02:08
Omen_20Hi. Has anyone had any issues with Chromium after using web-apps? My chrome apps are now gone from the browser and when I open a tab of a web-app I have on the launcher it no longer works. I have to click the app in the launcher but it adds an unneeded chromium instance to the launcher.02:10
PatrickDickeyezrafree: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=YNPTVwh3x3LdNofv_XNQMQ&cp=41&gs_id=1m&xhr=t&q=virtual+users+and+domains+with+postfix+dovecot&es_nrs=true&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=postfix+dovecot+virtual+users+and+domains the third link in the list is the one I used to configure mine. You might find some useful information in the results.02:10
ezrafreethanks patrick, i'll check it out02:14
PatrickDickeyNo problem. Hope you find your answer.02:14
cjaedoes anyone know of a program similiar to ultracopier02:15
escottcjae, you should describe what that program does02:15
cjaesorry, it copies files :p hang on ill get the little detail from the site02:16
Omen_20I'm also having a problem with Empathy holding on the number badge after viewing messages.02:17
kewelwhat size icon should I use for my lubuntu menu entries?02:17
cjaeUltracopier is free and open source software licensed under GPL3 that acts as a replacement for files copy dialogs. Main features include: play/pause, speed limitation, on-error resume, error/collision managemen02:18
PatrickDickeykewel, you could always look at some of the .desktop files in that directory. They should give you an idea of size and other aspects.02:18
escottcjae, rsync?02:18
cjaespeed limitation ...drools02:18
cjaethink its gui02:18
kewelpatrickdickey: ya I should.  sorry for the dumb question.  this is too fun02:18
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PatrickDickeykewel, no problem The only 'dumb' question is the one you don't ask. Plus, you're making me learn too. :)02:19
RollinV2not sure if i should thank ubuntu devs or amd, but my laptop temps are finally stable at 50ish C from watch sensors. big improvement.02:20
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west333RollinV2:  Cooler plates for the lappies are what I use , good investment02:22
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RollinV2west333, i had two laptop coolers. both broke. time to invest again. ha.02:23
west333hmmm, I guess its the brand you get02:24
bairuicool; installed Pygments 1.6 using easy_install02:25
west333I have this  1 fan job , 6 yrs old   still kicking ,  cost $35 back then02:25
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west333 the other is a $20 job and one of the fans is starting to  act up 3 months old02:25
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JokesOnYou77Hi all, what's the command to show all of the dependencies of a package?02:27
witesharkany advise on installing Skype on 12.04?02:28
nronksrwiteshark: I can verify it installs and works.02:28
nronksrapt-get install skype02:28
witesharknronksr, thanks!02:29
west333JokesOnYou77:  I believe its    sudo apt-cache depends <package>02:29
zykotick9west333: JokesOnYou77 apt-cache does NOT require sudo02:30
PatrickDickeywiteshark: if that doesn't work, I downloaded the .deb file from Skype.com and installed it that way.02:31
JokesOnYou77thank you both02:37
witesharkPatrickDickey, thanks! it's installed, gonna test the cam now :)02:41
ActionParsnipwiteshark: i suggest you test the cam in cheese first02:42
witesharkActionParsnip, yeah i have seen that02:43
dongwoohey guys,02:50
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ClientAliveI wanted to make a directory structure from a different logical volume show up inside a directory in ~/02:58
ClientAliveIs using a link the right way to do that?02:58
ActionParsnipClientAlive: i'd use a link02:58
ClientAliveActionParsnip: soft or hard?02:59
massey_Hey guys, something weird is happening with my laptop03:00
west333sym link should work ??03:00
ActionParsnipClientAlive: soft03:00
ActionParsnipmassey_: wassup03:01
ClientAliveok, cool. I had to look up what sym link means  :)03:01
ClientAliveso is there a flag I need to pay attention to in order to get all subdirectories as well? Like a -r or -R flag or something? (I'll man ln but just wanted a pointer).03:02
massey_I disabled bluetooth from the icon on the top left and my network manager stopped recognizing any and all wireless networks03:02
ActionParsnipClientAlive: its a soft link, the OS will see a folder, but the actual storage is done on the thing you link to03:02
massey_I'm not sure if disabling bluetooth was related to that but they happened almost at the same time03:02
massey_and when I try to re-enable bluetooth I can't; it's all greyed out and nothing is clickable03:02
ActionParsnipClientAlive: you just link a folder, the subfolders will appear on their own03:03
ClientAliveActionParsnip: ok, cool, that's what I want. I'll giver er' a rip  :)03:03
massey_I can connect via ethernet fine03:03
massey_and I've run restart network-manager and nothign happened03:03
GProgubuntu is great03:03
ActionParsnipClientAlive: you can even navigate them in CLI too, the link appears as a folder and you can 'cd' into it without any extra effort03:03
GProghappy to get rid of windows03:03
ActionParsnipClientAlive: its like a windows shortcut but more powerful03:03
newbie-I want to make a dualboot win/ubuntu on a new 60GB SSD, wha sizes to partition prior to putting win 7?03:04
ActionParsnipGProg: if it suits your needs, great03:04
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dr_willis60gb is barely enough for a single windows install ;)03:09
ClientAliveOMG It works! It works! ahhh haa haa haaaaa...03:09
dr_willisubuntu can be happy with 20-30gb.. depending on your needs03:09
goudkovin 12.04, i changed default folders (for pictures, video, documents, etc.) to one folder called ~/tmp. and now, i have five "tmp" folders listed on the left panel of nautilus. is there a way to remove them? not bookmarks, but the computer section in the left panel.03:09
massey_ActionParsnip: any ideas?03:09
goudkovi couldn't find any setting for that.03:09
dr_willisyou can firt it on smaller.. but thats getting in the way of doing any real work eith it newbie-03:09
west333ActionParsnip:  do you think if massey_  runs rfkill list  it will say if the Bluetooth is soft blocked ?03:10
massey_why don't I run it and see :-)03:10
massey_Brb have to get my charger03:10
west333try it03:10
west333 CLI   rfkill list03:11
west333in CLI window03:11
tripelbif anyone remembers me. i reinstalled windows. i fear all my old disks so till later.03:12
west333massey  you might have to run it  as  rfkill list bluetooth03:13
massey_rfkill list says that dell-bluetooth is soft blocked and hard blocked03:13
massey_so is wifi03:13
tripelbused win xp. i dont understand ant atvantages to 7.03:14
west333 hard blocked is a physical lock out , soft block is undone with  sudo rfkill unblock bluetooth03:14
massey_is there any way to unblock it / would that solve my problem?03:14
tripelbused win xp. i dont understand ANY aDvantages to 7.03:14
west333so if the dongle has a switch  give it  a flip on03:14
dr_willistripelb:  i use cp/m i dont see any advantages to 16+bit os;s03:15
confused-I want to make a dualboot win/ubuntu on a new 60GB SSD, wha sizes to partition prior to putting win 7?03:15
west333you could also try  sudo rfkill unblock wifi03:16
dr_willisconfused-:  ubuntu can be happy with 20-30gb. and do 'real' work.03:16
massey_west333: hmm, I ran both sudo rfkill unblock wifi / bluetooth but a subsequent rfkill list has the same output as before03:16
dr_willisconfused-:  windows may  be hard to fit totally on a 60gb hd03:16
massey_i.e. they're both still softblocked03:16
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west333ok, look at  rfkill --help  and see if anything in there might also e worth trying b03:17
rubiconjoshI wrote a program in C++ using Qt that listens too a TCP port, I just wrote a basic Python program that auto runs on my raspberry pi so that when it boots up it connects to my server program over the network, now I am going to add modules to both the client and the server program to handle things like a webcam and motor controllers. Anyone else working on something similar?03:17
west333you system is somewhat different than mine03:17
newbie|2this my first ubuntu install.  :)03:18
rubiconjoshbah wrong channel, sorry03:18
west333 for instance  wlan  or...?03:19
massey_no new options really03:19
west333try  all for the option03:19
newbie|2not messed with linux in long time03:19
massey_I did03:19
west333then shut off others in turn until you find the one controlling the dongle03:19
west333ohh ok03:19
newbie|2wish me luck or not03:20
massey_I'm confused; what's a dongle?03:20
west333try a log out and back ?  after the setting changes03:20
west333bluetooth dongle03:20
west333if not onboard03:20
ActionParsnipwest333: it'll show it, needs sudo though03:21
massey_okay I'll give that a shot03:21
massey_would there be a corresponding dongle for wifi as well?03:21
west333thanks ActionParsnip03:21
west333newer lappies have it built in . mines a usb dongle03:21
massey_still not recognizing any networks; still not letting me change bluetooth settings03:22
west333no   wifi is onboard  801.g/b/n etc03:22
massey_ActionParsnip: when I run it with sudo it has the same output as when I don't03:22
west333if you didn't plug anything into a usb port  then the sevice is onboard03:23
massey_ah got it03:23
massey_could the reason unblock isn't working be that they're also Hard Blocked?03:23
west333yup BUT..... it will say  in the  rfkill list  listing03:24
massey_it does say that they're hard blocked in the output to rfkill list03:24
massey_is it possible to un- hard block them?03:25
west333else try this ,,,     sudo lshw -c network .... then wait for a minute or so ,,,,  it will give you the status of all network devices03:25
west333soft or/and hard vblocked03:25
tripelbdr_willis: i need to learn what you mean. what has a 16bit os? i thot all was 32 now 64.03:25
ActionParsnip16bit OS, hahhaha03:26
massey_west333: that command has interesting output. The first line is "*-network DISABLED" and it goes on to list details about my wireless interface03:27
west333massey_:  unhard blocking is done by you turning it off via a physical switch or  Fn + <key> combo03:27
massey_and then further down there's "*-network" without "DISABLED" and it lists details about ethernet03:27
west333yea its a handy  command that one03:27
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massey_ah, would you know the key combo / how I could find it?03:27
dr_willistripelb:  there were 8 bit os's befor there were 16 bit os's  ;)03:28
ActionParsnip16bit OS, max ram is 65kb03:28
west333try  Fn +F203:28
west333 or some-such03:28
Hawkerz(or check the bios when you reboot)03:28
* [[franco]][[off] holas , como estan ?03:28
_helios_[[franco]][[off], no habla espaniol amigo03:29
[[franco]][[off][_helios_] :) a bueno esta bien , de donde es esta red ?03:29
massey_Wow, fn + f5 did it03:29
massey_bluetooth and wireless working again03:29
massey_thanks west333!03:29
west333the other option is to go to your lappy OEM site and download the lite-version of the operators manual and get the key combo from that03:30
west333 kewl03:30
zombiejimHello, I just installed ubuntu 12.04 and would like to know the most proper way to install nvidia drivers for best performance03:34
_helios_[[franco]][[off], Red que estás buscando?03:35
west333we have espanol rooms , guys03:35
[[franco]][[off][_helios_] no busco nada , solo queria saber de que pais es este servidor.03:36
_helios_west333, what is the # that's what he's looking for03:36
RollinV2west333, give him the room03:36
[[franco]][[off][_helios_] de donde eres tu '03:36
[[franco]][[off][_helios_] de donde eres tu ?03:36
west333ya , i forget  the code tho  ~es?03:36
bazhang!es | _helios_ [[franco]][[off]03:36
ubottu_helios_ [[franco]][[off]: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.03:36
[[franco]][[off][_helios_] yo soy de argentina :) , queria saber si saben algo de DDos o de botnet ?03:36
west333I'm in a browser window03:37
RollinV2the bot knows spanish? not bad.03:37
[[franco]][[off][bazhang] ya entre en #Ubuntu-es pero no ahy nadie ¬¬03:37
west333it does too03:37
RollinV2oh, no one in the spanish room03:37
bazhang[[franco]][[off], this is NOT the channel or network to talk about DDos / botnets03:37
_helios_bazhang, hes asking what country the network is from03:37
onektlooking to set up working bluetooth PAN on 12.04,  so far,  all guides have let to failure.  Any references appreciated.03:38
zombiejimCould anyone please let me know the best way to install Nvidia drivers on ubuntu 12.0403:38
bazhangzombiejim, what card03:38
dr_williszombiejim:  i just install the nvidia-current package03:38
zombiejimbazhang, I am using the 310m laptop03:38
dr_williszombiejim:  if you have an optimus based system - that adds difficulty03:39
bazhangzombiejim, have you tried nvidia-current package03:39
zombiejimI have yet to try anything as I would like to do it the correct way the first, websites such as softpedia claim i need to add repository's to do that03:39
rubiconjoshzombiejim, if you have an optimus system look at bumblebee03:39
zombiejimrubiconjosh, how do I know if its an optimus system03:39
rubiconjoshzombiejim, is it a laptop that has an nvidia card and onboard graphics?03:40
zombiejimrubiconjosh, yes03:40
sgo11hi, just install ubuntu 12.10 (gnome remix). where is "language support"? I don't find it in system settings. I would like to set "Keyboard Input Method System". where can I set it? thanks.03:40
_helios_[[franco]][[off], Esto no es una red buena para hablar de DDOS o botnet03:40
ClientAlivewhen formatting an ext4 filesystem on a logical valume (lvm2) are there options that would optimize for many small files being stored on it?03:40
bazhang_helios_, stop that NOW03:40
_helios_bazhang, I just told him this is not the place for botnet or ddos sorry03:40
rubiconjoshzombiejim, then it is, search for bumblebee, I have never used it, but someone in here with very limited knowledge was successful using it last night03:41
rubiconjoshzombiejim, http://bumblebee-project.org/03:41
zombiejimrubiconjosh, so it's not recommend to do install nvidia-current that is what the steam website and softpedia say but I have heard of bumblebee as well03:41
rubiconjoshzombiejim, adding the ppa and installing nvidia-current is for 'regular' systems that do not use optimus. Like the desktop I am on, I have integrated graphics, but I have a GTX 670, that is what the nvidia driver is designed for. Some laptops are designed to run some applications with onboard graphics and some with the nvidia card, they do this to save battery. The nvidia drivers for linux AFAIK do not support optimus on03:43
rubiconjoshlinux currently, the bumblebee project is aiming to support it.03:43
zombiejimrubiconjosh, http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/5628303:44
zombiejimrubiconjosh, that is my graphics card03:44
rubiconjoshzombiejim, read the very bottom of that page, it talks about optimus, right above the 'See the README' line03:45
sgo11where can I ask questions related to ubuntu gnome remix? thanks.03:45
rubiconjoshzombiejim, I honestly do not know a lot about optimus, if you are not sure your laptop uses it search for your laptop model number, it should be mentioned in the specifications for that model03:46
ActionParsnipzombiejim: look into bumblebee03:47
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zombiejimI am following bumblebees instructions now, I'm assuming I skip the x-swat/x-updates command because im using 12.04 and not 11.0403:48
FattyMattyUbuntu is turning into windows03:48
xangua!info ubuntu-gnome-desktop03:48
ubottuubuntu-gnome-desktop (source: ubuntu-gnome-meta): The Ubuntu GNOME Remix desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (quantal), package size 3 kB, installed size 26 kB03:48
xanguasgo11: gnome remix is just a metapackage , there is also ubuntu-gnome03:48
zombiejimIf I'm reading correctly03:48
dr_willis!fud | FattyMatty03:48
ubottuFattyMatty: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt03:48
xanguathere is also #ubuntu-gnome sgo1103:48
zombiejimIf you are on Ubuntu 11.04 or older and want newer drivers (recommended) than the ones available in the official repos, run:03:49
sgo11xangua, thanks. I am in that channel now. I just can't find language support from system settings.03:49
zombiejimIs that outdated and I should do the same for 12.04?03:49
_helios_FattyMatty, Ubuntu is far from being Windows considering it's already 100x better than Windows and more powerful.03:49
FattyMatty_helios_, Humm I dont know. I've been using Debi03:50
rubiconjoshzombiejim, I have never installed Bumblebee, I would read the guide on the website i provided and this, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee, also check out #bumblebee03:50
FattyMattyfor nearly nine years03:50
FattyMattyare lazy and want windows and clicky things03:50
FattyMattybut want to tell everyone they use Linux03:50
dr_willishow dare they expect things to get easier to use....03:50
rubiconjoshIs anyone running dual monitors? If so have you had success it making notifications appear on your left monitor?03:53
_helios_I have a good question, why are they going to support 12.04 longer than the new 12.10?03:53
xangua!lts | _helios_03:53
ubottu_helios_: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)03:53
bazhang_helios_, its LTS03:53
zombiejimwell its downloading 400 megs for bumblebee hoping it works, immediately after installing ubuntu it was telling me my video drivers were crashing for hockey03:53
_helios_So should I switch to 12.04 or just keep 12.10? is 12.04 weaker what would I loose if I went to 12.04?03:54
sgo11anyone know why there is no "Language Support" in ubuntu gnome remix 12.10? thanks.03:54
sgo11under system settings.03:54
west333as a for instance  I use  12.04 on all 3 of my boxes , i just pulled unity off and put  LXDE on for my lappies03:54
majnoonwhat is the name of the audio settings app in unity ?03:55
rubiconjosh_helios_, LTS just means it will be updated with security fixes and bugs longer than a non LTS release. You will be fine with either version, most likely if you are a home user you will not keep the same version for 3-5 years anyway03:55
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biancahow do i install a .rpm file?03:55
west333pulse audio  is another03:55
ActionParsnipbianca: you can use alien but I recommend you try find a deb03:55
rubiconjosh!rpm | bianca03:55
ubottubianca: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)03:55
dr_willisbianca:  best is to NOT use rpms on ubuntu03:55
histobianca: Are you sure there isn't a deb availbe for your application?03:55
ActionParsnipbianca: why do you want to use an RPM?03:55
_helios_rubiconjosh, ah ok, I'll keep the 12.10, does anyone know if there is a new version on the way or they just gonna soup up 12.10 make it more stable?03:56
RollinV2ubuntu may become a rolling release distro03:56
biancatheres a .tar.tz aswell? but i dont know how to install it either03:56
dr_willis!release | _helios_03:56
ubottu_helios_: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases03:56
biancaitts for adobe flash03:56
rubiconjosh!releases | _helios_03:56
dr_willis_helios_:  next release is 13.0403:56
dr_willisbianca:  theres flash installers in the repos03:57
ActionParsnipbianca: flash is in the repos, you don't need an RPM03:57
_helios_cool, I can't wait to try it out03:57
rubiconjosh_helios_, Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months03:57
ActionParsnip_helios_: its pre-release, expect issues. Support is in #ubuntu+103:57
ActionParsnipbianca: even using the tar.gz and putting the file in the browser plugin folder is better03:58
_helios_rubiconjosh, wow that's impressive every six months a new free OS that's impressive.03:58
biancawhat the hell.. it says i already have it but 2 mins ago it said i need to download it03:58
bianca>_> nevermind its working now03:58
ActionParsnipbianca: rpm files are not for ubuntu, and using alien can cause issues03:58
dr_willis_helios_:  its not new.. its updated.. with some changes.03:58
kDM`Hey everyone.  I used to have Ubuntu, but quickly stopped using it because I could not use my DYNEX Wireless Enhanced G USB plugin to retrieve Internet.  It only came with a Windows disc, but I really want to try to use Ubuntu... Is there anyway that I can install everything it needs and be able to use the Internet? Please PM if you may be able to help, rather than chat. :) Thank you in advance.03:58
ActionParsnipkDM`: what wifi chip does it use?03:58
kDM`I'm not sure. :/ How would I check that? :)03:59
RollinV2_helios_, i recommend staying with the most up to date LTS release. you don't have to update every 6months03:59
rubiconjoshkDM`, lsusb03:59
_helios_dr_willis, cool beans, I've been telling everyone at my college to switch to Ubuntu but allot of people are glued to that horrible Microsoft product.03:59
ActionParsnipkDM`: sudo lshw -C network     may show it, or:  lsusb03:59
_helios_RollinV2, I'll prob stay with 12.1064-bit for awhile because it's pretty bugles04:00
ActionParsnipkDM`: how could you stop using Ubuntu due to the wifi adapter, when you don't even know the wifi chip?04:00
west333majnoon:  the audio settings  app that i use is   <pavucontrol>  you can install it  with  sudo apt-get install  pavucontrol04:00
_helios_I have my laptop with 12.10 64-bit runs like a champ everything is compatible, then I have a desktop running Xubuntu 12.10 64bit04:01
RollinV2_helios_, if you already have 12.10 installed stick with it. easier then backtracking to 12.04.04:01
west333sounds like he hard blocked it  like massey did inadvertantly04:01
ActionParsnipkDM`: if lshw shows the chip, use it to find guides04:02
ActionParsnipkDM`: if not, use the 8 character hex id to find guides04:02
ActionParsnipkDM`: personally. I'd ditch the non-working usb stick and research a little, find one that can be made to work very easily (broadcom for example) or one that works out of the box04:03
ActionParsnipkDM`: usb wifi is stupendously cheap04:03
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kDM`Thank you Action. (:04:03
RollinV2any way to remove unity/dash and keep the top global menu? or do i need to install gnome and start over?04:04
ActionParsnipRollinV2: install gnome-panel, log off and log in to the new session04:06
west333RollinV2:  try LXDE04:07
RollinV2ActionParsnip, ill try that. sorry for the novice question but i get confused what uninstalls what. really want to keep the global menu but nothing else.04:07
RollinV2west333, better than xfce?04:09
west333RollinV2:  LXDE is wayyyyy better04:09
west333 LXDE is like gnome  but with taskbar at bottom . and  kde lite04:09
ActionParsnipRollinV2: you can add a global menu in xfce04:10
west333it uses openbox window manager04:10
west333 more functionality , low  resources04:10
ActionParsnipwest333: like razorqt :)04:11
ActionParsnipwest333: kde light04:11
west333not familiar with razor04:11
RollinV2"The version of GNOME Panel available in the repository for Ubuntu 12.04 is a modified version of Fallback Mode with the addition of a custom theme and ports of Ubuntu's own Indicators from their old GNOME 2.x desktop."04:11
RollinV2hum.. very close to what i want04:11
west333its like XP in style ,if thats a sign04:11
RollinV2ActionParsnip, i may do that. i use xubuntu on my low end systems. so im familar with the environment.04:12
RollinV2west333, i like a few bells and whistles :-)04:13
west333ya me too , and easy on this old lappy04:13
ituvoxHello. I am having trouble getting an epson multifunctional scanner to work under ubuntu 12.04, using any utility. The scanner is model Tx133, and I've already tried installing iscan, over and over, which should work for this model. The scanner seems to be detected well, but running iscan or xsane just stalls, and doesn't do anything until I unplug it, when it gives a communication error.04:13
west333so here are the screenshots ,,   lxde.org/image_galleries/screenshots04:14
west333copy and paste to browser04:14
ActionParsnipituvox: if you run:  lsusb   do you see a USB ID for the device?04:15
ituvoxBus 003 Device 004: ID 04b8:0883 Seiko Epson Corp.04:15
RollinV2west333, im a command line junkie. you should have told me to wget the images.04:15
ituvoxShould it detect a different one for the scanner and printer though?04:15
west333RollinV2:  ok..04:15
ituvoxOr just one for the whole device is fine?04:15
west333 next time04:15
RollinV2west333, um.. not sure i like default lxde. its way too windows like. and im raging hard on win8 right now.04:16
west333RollinV2:  so I installed  LXDE via synaptic .. logout ,,, session lxde . then removed unity04:16
RollinV2west333, thanks for reminding me to have a fallback in place before removing unity04:17
west333ok , then  gnome 3.4.2 I guess04:17
ActionParsnipituvox: does that ID give you guides?04:17
west333that mine04:17
ituvoxActionParsnip: What do you mean? If I search for it on the internet?04:18
RollinV2west333, ohh.04:18
RollinV2brb. relogin04:18
ituvoxAll i've been able to find are things I've already tried.04:19
ituvoxNamely installing the iscan packages04:19
ActionParsnipituvox: yes, what were you using to search? the make and model?04:19
west333RollinV2:  I t has the right click menu style like xfce does and you can mod it  with  obmenu ,  or geany .... the menuing system for openbox is xml04:19
ActionParsnipituvox: use this but modify it: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-259356.html04:20
ActionParsnipituvox: in linux, what is printed on the pretty casing doesn't mean a fat lot. you want the hardware IDs and so forth from the device and you will find guides04:20
ituvoxWill do, thanks for the help. Let's see...04:20
ActionParsnipituvox: hence the lsusb command being handy04:20
ituvoxThanks for the advice. I should have thought of that.04:21
west333on default with the default menu . go to advanced and select  the box there04:21
west333on right click .... changes to xfce style with glamor04:21
ActionParsnipituvox: may help: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=04b8%3A0883+linux+scan04:22
rubiconjoshIs anyone running dual monitors? If so have you had success at moving notifications to the left monitor?04:23
west333yup rubiconjosh  i run dual on both lappies here04:25
rubiconjoshwest333, is your main monitor setup to be the left or right monitor?04:25
west333you nedto run xrandr04:25
rubiconjoshwest333,  if you run notify-send "test" does the notifcation appear on the left monitor or right monitor04:26
west333you need to set up a script in  ~/.config /autostart/LxRandR.desktop04:27
ituvoxActionParsnip: For this guide http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-259356.html04:27
ituvoxI'm at the last step, fixing permissions, and under /etc/udev/rules.d/ I can't seem to find what I need to edit04:27
ituvoxThese files are there: 70-persistent-cd.rules  70-persistent-net.rules  README  z80_user.rules04:27
rubiconjoshwest333, thank you. I have been scowering bug reports trying to find out how to fix this, I will look for an example script04:28
ituvoxShould I create the file?04:28
west333rubiconjosh:  okey doky ,, ya I cant post it in here ,,04:28
west333but its about 5 lines of code04:29
rubiconjoshwest333, PM, pastebin or email it to me?04:29
ituvoxOr is there another syntax for these files in ubuntu04:30
west333I'll see if pastebin takes a copy of mine04:30
ituvoxshould it be something like 70-pesistent-usb.rules ?04:30
antonio_aloha folks04:32
west333rubiconjosh:  Done deal go have a look04:32
west333under my nick04:33
ActionParsnipituvox: yes, you make the new file04:33
antonio_sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install04:33
ituvoxAnd just call it 10-local.rules ? Okay04:33
antonio_actionparsnip: last night you told me how to back up a list of my installed packages to my-packages...how do I re-install them?04:34
antonio_don't I just use sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install04:34
ActionParsnip!clone | antonio_04:35
ubottuantonio_: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate04:35
tripelbTHIS IS NEW AND IMPORTANT,Canonical solicits input for ubuntuphone. Opens it up. http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/01/23/community-driven-ubuntu-phone-core-apps/04:35
west333yep tripelb  I want one04:37
ituvoxActionParsnip: The permissions have been fixed, now I can scanimage -L as a normal user. Thank you. However, running iscan and xsane still results in stalling.04:37
west333just dont know where or when or which carriers will support it04:37
rubiconjoshwest333, send you a pm, not sure where you pasted that config file04:37
west333rub pm , ok ,, i pasted to link at top of forum04:38
antonio_actionparsnip: I get the following xargs: aptitude: No such file or directory sudo: aptitude: command not found04:38
orudiehi. what is a keyboard shortcut to go full screen for a vm in virtualbox in ubuntu 12.04 ?04:38
tripelbwest333: we will learn,I got the link from reddit04:38
testing_@actionparsnip `sudo apt-get install aptitude`?04:38
ActionParsnipantonio_: you will need to install aptitude04:39
ClientAlivedoes anyone know if there's a way to add items under "computer" in the pane in nautilus?04:39
ActionParsnipantonio_: if you are using 64bit OS and need multiarch then aptitude may moan04:39
antonio_you mean it'll nag like a woman? ;)04:40
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.04:40
testing_@ClientAlive Ctrl+D04:41
testing_(although that goes to bookmarks pane, not computer pane)04:41
west333rubiconjosh:  it wont let me paste into that window04:41
ActionParsnipClientAlive: add it as a bookmark, it will also show in the quick menu in the right click04:42
ClientAlivetesting_: oh, yeah but I meant specifically under "Computer" in that pane04:42
testing_Why? bookmarks pane is right above04:42
ClientAliveI would prefer it not be separate (just more convenient for me)04:42
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testing_AFAIK you can't sorry..04:42
ActionParsnipClientAlive: then you could make symlinks to the home folder for the things you desire04:43
ClientAliveActionParsnip: I think that's the answer. I made ln -s inside a directory in the home direcotory. It's not really right like that04:43
ActionParsnipClientAlive: no, thats why the bookmarks exist04:44
ActionParsnipClientAlive: much neater04:44
ClientAliveI guess04:45
ClientAlivethx tho04:45
west333rubiconjosh:  it wont allow me to even type in that message window you have opened  let me try something04:46
rubiconjoshwest333, I am in #flood, just join that channel and paste the file there, that is what the channel is for04:47
ituvoxI went ahead and installed the latest version of the iscan packages, but it still stalls as usual.04:49
ActionParsnipituvox: does the new udev rule not work?04:50
ituvoxIt seems to work, scanimage -L now gives the expected output as a normal user04:51
ituvoxBut that was not the problem apparently04:51
ActionParsnipituvox: are there bugs reported04:51
ituvoxActionParsnip: I don't know where to look for any, to be honest04:52
ituvoxOf the driver you mean?04:53
ActionParsnipituvox: look for bugs for the usb id or the make and model, or you can report your own04:54
vnc786on giving print some times i got this in .xsessions-errors and printing doesn't work http://pastebin.com/VLuRntju on ubuntu 12.04 64 bit04:59
vnc786using default DE05:00
vnc786but if i logged out and log in printing works with no issue05:03
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Wiz_iso files converted from avi using mkisofs in CLI not playing in mplayer or vlc05:06
ActionParsnipvnc786: are there any bugs reported?05:08
ActionParsnipWiz_: they probably won't. Why make an iso of the files?05:09
unheedingdoes anyone have any idea why you can't log in from the ctrl+alt+f1 command line?  It keeps saying that the system is going to halt in 4 minutes, but this persists after a restart05:09
Wiz_to burn the iso straight to dvd instead of using a GUI based program which seems to take longer05:10
ActionParsnipWiz_: if you want a video dvd I recommend you use devede05:11
west333ActionParsnip:  some one probably dd'd those files to iso and retreiving them could be dangerous  with dd ..... would  unetbootin  uncompress thenm onto drive or flash media05:11
mrlawsome got dumps ?05:11
ActionParsnipwest333: both ways are fine in newer releases05:11
west333or say  k3b05:11
Wiz_when i use that the iso file that gets created is not playable either05:11
west333 was thinking dd might brick his OS if a typo ensued05:12
ActionParsnipwest333: unetbootin is just a bit more user friendly05:12
ActionParsnipwest333: oh sure, dd can become (d)ata (d)estroyer if used incorrectly05:12
west333lol  yup05:12
ActionParsnipWiz_: if you loop mount the iso file, you should be able to play the contents05:13
vnc786ActionParsnip: i did not found exactly related to gtk printer05:14
antonio__has anyone ever installed adobe air in ubuntu 12.10?05:14
ActionParsnipantonio__: its not compatible or developed for Ubuntu05:14
stephiniis there a way to move the bar to the right side? having it on the left doesn't work correctly when i have a synergy server to the left of it...05:14
ActionParsnipantonio__: hasnt been for ages now05:14
dr_willisantonio__:  tried and failed a few weeks back..05:14
antonio__so there is no way to get it working for 12.10 ?05:15
antonio__ugh..need it for market samurai05:15
west333adobe air works fine on  12.x05:15
unheeding"adobe" * "works" lol05:16
west333i use it for  QR code scanning with camera05:16
ActionParsnipantonio__: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/adobe-air-for-linux-axed05:16
Annette01Hello everybody, i finaly got ubuntu installed using a help thing on the forums but i seem to have encountered some sort of error :S it doesnt say just that something about a system program failing and i can report or close05:16
Annette01Also, when i try to search for software under hte centre, i just get a :( smiley face thing05:16
west333unheeding:  it does  justget the last stable build and follow the install instructions  no big05:16
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unheedingwest333: i was joking05:17
unheedingbut nobody has any idea why "system is going to halt in 4 minutes" would keep showing up in the ctrl+alt+f1 terminal after entering a username?05:18
ActionParsnipAnnette01: run:  sudo apt-get update     after closing the app, is it smooth?05:18
ActionParsnipunheeding: does it actually turn off?05:18
Annette01im not sure what you mean by "is it smooth" but will do05:18
ActionParsnipAnnette01: any errors or warnings?05:18
antonio__dr_willis: think its working http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2024914&highlight=adobe+air+12.1005:18
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unheedingActionParsnip: even after reboot this message persists.  and no, it doesn't turn off05:19
Annette01ActionParsnip: it seems to be doing a bunch of updates then "done"05:19
unheedingattempting to log in using the GUI just boots the user back to the login screen05:19
west333ACPI settings .... in screensaver ...... change them unheeding05:19
ActionParsnipunheeding: run:  grep -i minutes ~/.bashrc     does it output anything?05:19
dr_willisantonio__:  i basically decided i dident need anything from adobe. I wont even instsll air on my android05:20
unheedingActionParsnip: the user can't even login to the ctrl+alt+f1 terminal05:20
ActionParsnipAnnette01: cool, if you run:  sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     does it start upgrading the OS ok?05:20
ActionParsnipunheeding: how anout CTRL + ALT + F205:21
west333singlr user mode at boot? with gui05:23
histo!who | west33305:23
ubottuwest333: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:23
west333histo:  ok05:24
Annette01ActionParsnip: You are my hero, you have been so helpful, along with bean and another person i cant remember05:27
Annette01You have helped me when i almost gave up05:27
anthonyi need help mounting a usb on ubuntu 11.1005:27
histoanthony: plug it in05:28
unheedinganthony: is the filesystem BeFS or HAMMER?05:28
* histo scratches head who uses BeFS05:29
histoor hammer for that matter05:29
anonraptranthony: what filesystem is the usb formatted to?05:29
unheedingHaiku users or DragonFlyBSD people :D05:29
ActionParsnipAnnette01: hehe05:29
ActionParsnipAnnette01: cli to the rescue05:29
ActionParsnipAnnette01: just making the planet a better place in my own tiny way05:30
anthonyye. thank u. i got that far. but it says it cant mount. it says "error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad options, bad superblock on /dev/sdb105:30
anthonyidk wat file system it is05:31
biancawill the new ubuntu stilll have ushity05:31
west333mount -t  < type>05:31
biancasorry typo, unity*05:31
west333bianca:  LOL @ ushity05:32
Wiz_i tried and found a work around even though it may seem long winded, but thanks for the help05:32
west333amen sista05:32
biancalol well it is... uts like its meant to be on a phone.. its so grosely simplified05:32
dr_willisand how long have you been using unity?05:33
biancaliiiike... 4 days now05:33
dr_willisso sorry, but i dont put a lot of weight in your opinions.05:34
west333bianca:  ya good point  something less complex on a trial  basis would be the way  then work up05:34
biancadammit! dr_willis doesnt value my opinions.. my plans for total world domination are crumbling!05:35
SDrhowdy, putty doesn't seem to output home/end really well -using both bash, and fish, it prints [1~  to the terminal. any way I can fix that?05:35
SDr(expected behaviour is, of course, going to the beginning/end of the line)05:35
Wiz_i did try the loop mount thing and it showed me my contents, I think the file itself has some high definition video and audio(.avi 2 and 1/2 hour long movie), but I used ffmpg to convert it and then converted it to iso and the iso played, I'll just have to work out the specs to get it to the right aspect ration on a normal T.V. screen, again thanks for your help05:35
dr_willisSDr:  try the utf-8 encoding in putty, and try differnt termtypes05:36
amomagnome terminal wants to install a font. How disable it?05:36
anthonyso any help with the usb thing05:37
mrlawanyone got dumbs ??05:38
biancais the new ubuntu phone thing open source too?05:38
Annette01ActionParsnip: i just got a internal error and under details it says05:39
ActionParsnipmrlaw: phrase your full qustion please. a single word is a poor question05:39
bentinatawhy my virtualbox menu is missing?05:39
west333 you know , ii watched the  webblog tween  Daniel and Leann and I sooo wanted to be there ...  really .... i had some Q's about resellers and stuff that L and D didnt even consider05:39
Annette01ActionParsnip:  /usr/bin/jockey-gtk05:39
dcopeis there a daemon that will automatically clean up mp3 idv3 data?05:39
ActionParsnipAnnette01: are you installing proprietary video drivers?05:40
anonraptranthony: have you tried inserting the usb into another OS to check what filesystem it has? stick it in a windows machine or a mac and see if it recognizes it?05:40
Annette01yes i am ActionParsnip, getting the latest nvidia drivers05:40
biancai dont like it, the new ubuntu phone, i like a blank desktop xD05:41
anonraptranthony: if the usb will not mount under any OS you may just be out of luck. i.e. damaged or improperly formatted usb05:41
biancaplus its practicly has unity05:42
anthonyi plugged it into my tablet. it mounted fine. its not the usb. i have several problems with ubuntu at the moment that im trying to resolve by05:42
histobianca: what new ubuntu phone?05:42
histobianca: nothing has been finalized05:42
anthonyreinstalling the os. ut i need to mount it to use the startup disk creator utility05:42
histoanthony: can you pastebin the output of dmesg after you plug in the usb device05:43
histoanthony: also any errors you are gettings05:43
anthonyno i cant. my computer wont onnect to the internet. thsts one of the problems im trying to resolve.  im on my android tblet right now05:44
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west333ActionParsnip:  ok , so now I hve a qiucky  Q for you  whats the deal with proprietary drivers on Ubuntu ..  my AMD 64  , has a radion  9550 lx  card installed  [ vga x DVI]  and now issues05:45
west333no* issues05:45
west333 so why the drivers thing05:46
histoanthony: what type of network card do you ahve on that computer?05:46
histoanthony: can you type in lspci   and let us know the chipset of your network card05:46
histoanthony: if it's wifi you may want to try plugging in a cable for the time being to atleast get online. Most likkely you have a broadcom chipset wireless card.05:47
DWSRhey all, I'm having an issue where my .Xsession-errors is growing to absolutely stupid sizes (~17GB). I tried symlinking the file to /dev/null, but it reappeared. Help?05:47
anthonyill copy the last entry into dmesg. 2856.203374 FAT - fs (sdb1): IO charset iso8859-1 not found05:47
histoDWSR: what is being put in there?05:47
DWSRhisto: Sec.05:47
DWSRhisto: I already deleted it to get my server to function properly.05:48
histoDWSR: well whya re you running X on a server btw?05:48
anthonyits a wired connection. iv tried fixing it. im sure its a driver but i just want to do a complete clean uninstall/reinstall so itll fix everything05:48
DWSRhisto: Need it for an iTunes instance inside of VBox.05:49
DWSRfor Airplay.05:49
Annette01Okay, im back again after updating drivers again. I keep getting this error saying there was a internal system error or something of the sort, it provides no informatino05:49
ActionParsnipDWSR: what is in the file?05:51
DWSRActionParsnip: Sec, letting it fill up.05:51
histoDWSR: https://github.com/hendrikw82/shairport#readme05:51
aeon-ltdi'm i not seeing this right, but 11.10 server  32bit doesn't exist?05:52
histoActionParsnip: I asked already05:52
DWSRhisto: Trying to stream from, not to.05:52
histoaeon-ltd: yes it does but it's getting close to end of life05:53
linuxil y a du monde ? je test voyager xubuntu05:53
aeon-ltdhisto: thank you05:54
somsip!fr | linux05:54
ubottulinux: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.05:54
DWSRActionParsnip && histo: in .xsession-errors seems to be a bunch of crap regarding someone slamming my vino daemon.05:54
ActionParsnipDWSR: are you port forwarding to vino from outside?05:55
DWSRWas, in the process of not doing it. Already installed FreeNX.05:55
ActionParsnip!vnc | DWSR05:56
ubottuDWSR: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX05:56
ActionParsnipDWSR: vnc has zero security05:56
DWSRActionParsnip: I know.05:56
DWSRActionParsnip: I already have FreeNX installed. I'm de-forwarding everything right now. I'll probably also uninstall vino05:56
DWSR!package vino05:56
ActionParsnipDWSR: so using an ssh tunnel is good, port forwarding to vino isn't a good idea05:56
histoDWSR: Can you change your default vnc port05:56
histoDWSR: or install fail2ban and right your own jail05:56
DWSRhisto: Just uninstalling Vino.05:57
DWSRand de-forwarding.05:57
ActionParsnipor use ssh for everything and ditch vnc all together05:57
histoDWSR: I would use ssh tunnel to vnc and add fail2ban to stop people from brute forcing ssh05:58
ActionParsnipDWSR: what do you do on the remote PC?05:58
ActionParsnipDWSR: once you get connected?05:58
DWSRActionParsnip: Not much.05:58
DWSRagain, mostly just for my vbox iTunes installation.05:59
ActionParsnipDWSR: you can manage vbox via web ui05:59
DWSRActionParsnip: You can't interact with the vbox instance though.06:00
b1llyis there a hotkey to switch through "tabs"06:02
b1llylets say I had multiple web browser tabs open06:02
DWSRIn Chrome, Firefox, and Opera.06:02
DWSRCtrl+Shift+Tab goes in the opposite direction06:03
dr_williswould depend on the app.06:03
GleechHey everyone just browsing chat channels! I have free music at my site www.leechradio.weebly.com my irc channel is #leechradio for Freenode!06:03
Gleechi like using chrome better.06:03
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anonraptrkinda new to IRC. trying to join raspberry pi channel but getting error(477) need to be identified with services. help?06:09
BillyZaneanonraptr: hi06:10
aeon-ltd__!identify | anonraptr06:10
ubottuanonraptr: You can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, as a typo will give away your password. If that happens, identify and then type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.06:10
BillyZane!register | anonyraptr06:11
ubottuanonyraptr: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode06:11
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BillyZanehmm crap06:11
BillyZaneanonraptr: type in /msg nickserv register password email06:12
linus_anyone know how to get Xchat to show buttons and list of users in the room on ubuntu 10.04 PowerPC version?06:12
BillyZanethe order of email and password might be reversed06:12
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HannofcartI recently experimented with a Radeon and switched back to my NVidia card but now I am havign trouble installing the nvidia drivers again. I made sure I had the generic kernel headers package installed before installing nvidia-current-updates. But then lsmod | grep  nvidia shows nothing installed06:15
HannofcartSo i am not able to sudo modproble nvidia06:15
HannofcartIt loads the noveau drivers on startup06:16
anonyraptr /msg nickserv register 2rak005 anonymousraptr@yahoo.com06:17
aeon-ltdoh boy06:18
rypervencheSo many trolls...06:18
anonraptri did exactly what i was told not to.06:19
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aeon-ltdanonraptr: might wanna change your yahoo mail password too06:20
Noskcajhow can i overclock an AMD radeon 5770 in Ubuntu, ideally with a GUI06:20
anonraptrfeels like there is an inherent flaw in a system where the line between registration and giving everyone your email and pw is paper thin06:20
GleechHey everyone just browsing chat channels! I have free music at my site www.leechradio.weebly.com my irc channel is #leechradio for Freenode!06:20
aeon-ltdGleech: don't do that here.06:21
anonraptri changed pw superfast06:21
aeon-ltdanonraptr: ideally you register the first time you connect to freenode, but not to any chans06:22
lasers(And to use status window instead of channels)06:24
ActionParsnipHannofcart: could use:   sudo nvidia-xconfig   then reboot06:30
Gleechcan you change register names?06:31
ActionParsnipanonraptr: people are adding a leading space06:31
ActionParsnipGleech: I'd ask in #freenode06:31
ActionParsniplasers: +106:32
koumorileohi guys ... new to linux made the change about a week ago ... for media servers i'm using rygel w/ dlna .... but i see PLEX in the ubuntu software center .... anyone have exp with plex and its functions ?06:32
ActionParsnipkoumorileo: I use plex06:32
koumorileoyah ? any chance u can give me a run down of the difference between plex and rygel ?06:33
biancaim trying to install a program in the ubuntu software center, and it says its free, but theres no download button, it just ghas a buy button06:33
ActionParsnipkoumorileo: ive not used rygel.06:34
Noskcajhow can i re-direct the .cache folder to a different HDD. also how can i overclock an AMD GPU in Ubuntu?06:34
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: use a symlink06:34
koumorileorygel runs in terminal06:34
NoskcajActionParsnip, ok06:35
koumorileoand i connect to it using my ps3 and my android products06:35
biancawhy would you need to overclock? if you need to overclock for ubuntu then im guessing your gpu is too old to safely overclock >_<06:35
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: I use a symlink from /run/google-chrome to ~/.cache/google-chrome   to speed up the web a little06:35
anonraptranyone familiar with the diff in the Tor browsers between win/osx/linux? win and osx browers seems to use orig architecture but ubuntu tor browser uses firefox? is that right?06:37
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Leechradioit works06:37
mulrayi want to uninstall ubuntu and regain my original partition scheme06:38
mulrayis that possible06:38
BillyZanedoes anyone know how to get a creative sound blaster z to work on ubuntu 12.10?06:38
ActionParsnipmulray: sure, you can use gparted to setup the new partition scheme if you want06:39
NoskcajActionParsnip, how do i make a symlink? would it be easier to mount .cache in RAM?06:39
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: move the folder to where you desire, then link to it06:40
anonraptrmulray: if what your asking is can you go back to the single partition you originally had and not have to reinstall your OS, im not so sure. you may not like that answer06:40
NoskcajActionParsnip, i still don't really understand06:40
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: you want .cache on another partition06:41
Noskcajon another drive (ssd to HDD)06:41
mulrayanaonraptr - i think gparted might work i'll just reboot to another medium06:41
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: so you copy the folder to the other partition (lets say it's mounted to /media/part1   you will then get the cache folder really at /media/part1/.cache06:41
mulrayonly thing i might have trouble with is grub06:42
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: the physical storage is moot06:42
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: you can then run:  ln -s /media/part1/.cache ~/.cache06:42
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: this will make a link to the moved folder, the OS will see the link as if it was the folder, and nothing has changed06:42
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: yet the actual storage of the cache folder is really on /media/part106:43
anonraptrtil that gparted kicks azz and i formatted and reinstalled os for no good reason last month..  lol06:43
NoskcajActionParsnip, i think i understand, thanks. any idea for OCing my GPU?06:43
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: never had to do it, sorry06:45
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: when you installed you could have made your /home partition on the platter based drive and have no issue. Also make sure your swap is not on the SSD too06:46
NoskcajActionParsnip, will do, i wanted most of /home to be on the ssd06:47
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arunkumar413sound quality is not good in my ubunutu06:49
histo!sound > arunkumar41306:50
ubottuarunkumar413, please see my private message06:50
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arunkumar413histo: i checked it, the volume levels are max. But the quality is not as good as that of in windows. my lappy has dolby advanced audiio. In windows the quality is super.06:56
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: casual user data doesn't really benefit unless you work with several humdred Mb files06:56
NoskcajActionParsnip, ok, the install just finished, can i still move /home? it's a 240gb ssd so not a huge worry06:57
liuubuntu 12.04 amd64 installation stuck at "Copying installation logs.."06:58
penzurHi, is there a faster way to change from unity to xfce desktop environment in ubuntu 12.0?06:58
Bry8Star{EBHi, for ubuntu to be installed on efi bios based laptop, where can i get more info on EFI ?06:58
ActionParsnippenzur: log off, log on06:59
ActionParsnipNoskcaj: I'd just leave it tbh06:59
NoskcajActionParsnip, my thoughts exactly06:59
arunkumar413is there any good driver for dolby audio in linux07:01
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ActionParsniparunkumar413: alsa can do lots of chammels07:02
liuis there anyone having the same bug on installation?   stuck at "copying insatllation logs ..."07:03
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arunkumar413ActionParsnip: is not about the number of channels. its about the quality07:03
ActionParsniparunkumar413: what is the output of:   wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload07:03
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions07:04
ActionParsniparunkumar413: is it a Creative thing by any chance?07:04
mulrayubuntu is a bloated piece of shitty adware, gg canonimazon07:04
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arunkumar413ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1565327/07:05
dw-After upgrade to 12.04 on login (or logout) sound volume goes to max, then i login and its back where it was before i logged out ... ideas?07:08
ActionParsniparunkumar413: try:  echo "options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=auto" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null07:08
ActionParsniparunkumar413: reboot to test07:08
arunkumar413ActionParsnip: my system is am amd processor but the alsa shows the card as hda intel07:09
subcoolcan someone help me correct some permissions -07:09
west333subcool:  which ones07:10
subcooldrwxrwxrwx 7 subcool subcool 4096 Jan 23 18:01 Ext3Storage07:10
Jojo_my ubuntu 12.04 server is on VM workstation 8, does anyone now how can i access the web server on my main O.S?07:10
subcoolits a partition im using for space- but for some reason the permissions got messed uip07:11
west333subcool:  is that a dir?07:11
subcoolwest333, ya07:11
arunkumar413ActionParsnip: ok i put that command, but there is no response from that command07:11
Jojo_my ubuntu 12.04 server is on VM workstation 8, does anyone now how can i access the web server on my main O.S(windows)?07:11
vlacaarunkumar413: hint: > /dev/null07:11
Jojo_my ubuntu 12.04 server is on VM workstation 8, does anyone now how can i access the web server on my main O.S(windows)?07:11
west333 if so  , sudo chattr  <dir name> needed attrib>  ie  o700  or 0470, etc07:12
arunkumar413vlaca: command not found07:12
vlacano, I meant that's why there's no response from the command07:13
vlacait just appended a line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf07:13
arunkumar413vlaca: ok, now should i restart the notebook07:14
vlacaarunkumar413: yes, like ActionParsnip said07:14
Guest51366hi I am trying to create a larger than 4GB persistent partition in ubuntu liveusb, and followed the guide http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/ but my pendrive partition can't be resized and there is a red exclamation mark, can you help me ,thanks07:15
west333you probbably dont want the  set atrib in there so  chattr  ~/<dir>  <attrib>  say 755 or such should be ok   depending on needed07:15
ActionParsniparunkumar413: the command doesn't output anything..07:15
arunkumar413vlaca: but my lappy is a amd processor and radeon graphics, but in the alsa script it is also showing about intel hda audio. why is it so?07:16
Guest51366hi I am trying to create a larger than 4GB persistent partition in ubuntu liveusb, and followed the guide http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-larger-than-4gb-casper-partition/ but my pendrive partition can't be resized and there is a red exclamation mark, can you help me ,thanks07:16
ActionParsnipGuest51366: is the partition mounted?07:17
vlaca!patience | Guest5136607:17
ubottuGuest51366: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:17
west333sub you can also do  chmod  -r -v  ~/dir < all files>  too with some tweaking07:17
ActionParsnipGuest51366: you cannot resize a mounted partition07:17
vlacaarunkumar413: it's just the audio chip you have, doesn't matter what kind of processor you got07:18
Guest51366ActionParsnip: thanks, but I have umouted it,   sudo umount /dev/sdb07:18
ActionParsnipGuest51366: you don't mount sdb07:19
ActionParsnipGuest51366: you'd umount /dev/sdb107:19
Guest51366and there is no data about disk usage and left07:19
zykotick9west333: fyi, when using multiple switches you don't need - for each, so using your example, you could just have "chmod -rv ~/dir..."07:19
e2580hi, anyone know a rule based way i can control my media player, example, if id tag for artist contains "justin bieber", then skip next track? Im using clementine for a media player, i may be open to other players that support this but i prefer a generic approach.07:19
pwnophobicso is it okay to ask for tech support on this irc?07:19
vlaca!ask | pwnophobic07:20
ubottupwnophobic: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:20
anthonymy usb wont mount. i do dmesg and it saysb"FAT-fs (sdb1): IO charset iso8859-1 not found" please help07:20
Guest51366there is no /dev/sdb1 but only /dev/sdb07:20
anthonyi no. i followed the file path and seen. but thats wat it says07:21
west333yes  zykotick9  thanks ..  I still explin stuff as rpm - U -V -h . rather than rpm - Uvh ...  I m not sure why07:22
anthonycan anyone help me?07:22
zykotick9west333: rpm, that explains it ;)07:24
west333I'll get the hang of this place yet07:25
aeon-ltdanthony: if you haven't asked your question ask it07:25
arunkumar413vlaca: restared the sytem but still the quality has not improved07:25
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anthonyi have07:25
vlacaarunkumar413: you might have multiple sound cards and it might default to the onboard intel hda chip07:25
vlacaarunkumar413: can you disable that from your BIOS?07:26
Guest51366anybody using liveusb with persistent partition larger than 4GB ?07:26
arunkumar413vlaca: how to configure the amd idt07:26
anthonyaeon-ltd: i have asked. my usb wont mount07:28
pwnophobici tried to install 12.04 as a dual boot with windows.  i loaded up the disk on startup to install, but just got a black screen after the short purple screen with the mouse and keyboard.  I ended up installing everything in nomodeset thinking its because there was no driver for my gtx 560ti.  after finally installing i activate the nvidia driver to restart to a black screen.  I'm just asking for help to install 12.04 correctly wit07:28
vlacaarunkumar413: I would try to disable the onboard one from the BIOS. failing that, you could try blacklisting the snd_hda_intel module07:29
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arunkumar413vlaca: instead of rebooting and disable i would like to enable to the amd idt07:29
vlacaarunkumar413: do you have multiple sound cards?07:31
vlacawith multiple outputs07:32
arunkumar413vlaca: not sure, i think there should becoz i have amd readon graphics card07:32
west333Notes to self  :[ I can hardly wait for the issues  UEFI will conjure up ]07:33
vlacaarunkumar413: what does that have to do with what kind of sound card(s) you have?07:33
arunkumar413vlaca: amd should have provided the sound card aslo, becoz in windows under sound, video and game controller, i saw the amd idt07:35
arunkumar413vlaca: lspci command output has the amd audio device http://paste.ubuntu.com/1565380/07:37
arunkumar413vlaca: see line 4 and 1507:38
vlacaarunkumar413: try sudo lshw -C sound07:41
[x_]anyone here know squid well?07:42
[x_] i'm trying to figure out why my squidGuard setup isn't working. I have the following in squid.conf:url_rewrite_program /usr/local/bin/squidGuard -c /usr/local/etc/squid/squidGuard.conf07:42
[x_]with my squidguard conf set to : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1565269/07:42
[x_]however if i go to a url in the ads file, such as merchants.netstep.net, it is not blocked07:42
[x_] and we can see squidGuard running, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1565277/07:42
[x_] i built the db files, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1565275/07:42
west333[x_]:  ufw active?07:43
[x_]yeah it's not blocking07:43
[x_]the proxy is working07:43
west333something is blocking ports  and/or monitoring07:43
[x_]the proxy is working just isn't blocking the urls properly07:43
arunkumar413vlaca: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1565390/07:43
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vlacaarunkumar413: you can see that there's two and only one is active - using the snd_intel_hda driver07:45
vlacaarunkumar413: like I said, try disabling from BIOS, it should auto-detect and use the other one07:45
vlacaarunkumar413: if that is not possible try blacklisting the snd_intel_hda driver07:46
west333[x_]:  I would think  that a config file isnt set properly  but I dont use squid .....maybe try   man squid in CLI or maybe a pdf on it from OEM07:46
arunkumar413vlaca: i think in bios there is no option to disable07:46
arunkumar413vlaca: in the two cards listed which one is good07:47
vlacaarunkumar413: since you're saying that the sound is worse than on win, I'm guessing th inactive one07:47
vlacaarunkumar413: anyway, I have no other ideas07:48
arunkumar413vlaca: what should i do if there is no option to disable or enable the audio devices in bios07:48
OnkeltemHi. I'm running 32bit 10.10 and want to upgrade to 64bit 12.04. Following guide on ubuntu.com I have to upgrade to 11.04, then to 11.10 and then to 12.04 finally07:48
OnkeltemIs that corect?07:49
somsipOnkeltem: 32 to 64 is very messy. Best to reinstall07:49
imarkyes just reinstall to 6407:49
arunkumar413vlaca: i think the problem is with the driver, as we are driving them with an intel audio driver07:49
imark3 upgrades would take forever anyway and require about 6gb of downloads or more07:50
Onkeltemsomsip, imark:  I would glad to, but this PC is not mine and I'm afraid to broke something07:50
somsipOnkeltem: I only found one online guide on upgrading 32 to 64, and even that recommended not to do it.07:50
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imarkin all honesty you stand just as much chance messing stuff up with 3 upgrades in a row07:50
west333arunkumar413:  usually on lagcy boards  if the ability to not  enable/llly means that there are jumpers on the MoBo that need to be set/altered suadisable devices lies within .... it U07:50
Onkeltemimark: yeah, looks evil :)07:51
west333something got messed here07:51
vlacaarunkumar413: no, you're not driving *them* just one of them. the other one is inactive07:51
west333 the mobo . ig nothing in bios  means   the MoBo has jumpers for config on legacy Mobo'd07:52
vlacaarunkumar413: that's why I asked whether there's multiple outputs. if there's just one output, the two cards probably cannot work at the same time07:52
arunkumar413vlaca: on the laptop it says dolby advanced audio. what does it mean, is the sound card a dolby or is dolby a driver or a codec or dolby speakers07:52
vlacaarunkumar413: I have no idea what it means07:53
Annette01I just got a alert "system program problem detected" with no information just "report" or "close"07:53
arunkumar413vlaca: now how to enable the other audio device without going to bios07:56
west333the bios should ask ,, use onboard  or pci sound ..... select the one  you want as default , save settings and reboot ,,, should be eazy as pie07:56
west333that will be the one Ubuntu picks up as default07:57
vlacaarunkumar413: I don't know if it's possible07:58
arunkumar413west333: even if we enbale it in bios, what about the driver, does linux kernel has the driver or it uses the default intel hda driver07:58
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west333then  sudo lshw -c sound ,, look for driver07:59
west333if no driver  then try  search07:59
histoOnkeltem: yes that's correct you hve to upgrade in order unless you are going from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS to LTS07:59
histo!upgrade > Onkeltem08:00
ubottuOnkeltem, please see my private message08:00
west333else if driver , do lsmod  | grep <driver name > and08:00
vlacaarunkumar413: it might also be just the windows driver doing some extra processing08:00
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histo!who | west33308:00
ubottuwest333: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:00
west333 then modprobe  < driver name>08:00
vlacahave you tried searching for the exact model of the laptop and sound issues on linux/Ubuntu?08:00
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histoarunkumar413: have you tried searching on askubuntu or the forums for your laptop model?08:02
arunkumar413histo: its a very popular laptop available across leading retails stores08:02
arunkumar413histo: and its hp branded08:02
histoarunkumar413: okay well then I'm sure someone else has run into the problem. that's why I suggest searching in askubuntu and the forums.08:03
west333arunkumar413:  did what I suggested make sense08:03
arunkumar413histo: ah! this is the problem with linux, people just ask to digg the whole web to get their issue resolved.08:04
vlacaarunkumar413: this is the problem with lazy people, they expect others to solve their problems08:05
histoarunkumar413: no I'm trying to help you. I believe you are experiencing a bug. Since i'm not running the model you or nore have you stated what model it is. It's doubtfull I can help you.08:05
histoarunkumar413: hense why I suggest you search ASKUBUNTU since that's where most people go when They are not getting help in here08:05
histo!patience | arunkumar41308:05
ubottuarunkumar413: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:05
histoarunkumar413: ^^^^^^^^^^^ See08:05
west333histo:  my premis was to get the driver or at least the driver was present and active  else modprobe for it08:05
PatrickCok, so i'm totatlly new to setting up ubuntu from scratch.08:05
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histowest333: the driver should be loaded even if the card is not active.08:06
PatrickCi wanted to do a complete setup, so i went with a 12.10 minimal install. is there a good guide on installing a DM/WM?08:06
histowest333: assuming you are correct he just needs to activate a different card with an asound file. Although I've never seen hardware like this.08:06
vlacahisto: one of the cards shows up as UNCLAIMED08:06
icerootPatrickC: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   or use xubuntu-desktop  or kubuntu-desktop  or lubuntu-desktop to get unity, xfce4, kde or lxde08:07
west333histo  yea , the  later I was thinking08:07
PatrickCiceroot: thanks08:07
arunkumar413vlaca: its not being lazy. its about time. people have work. They do jobs, they need to earn living. i spend working 12 hours in office and sleep only for 4 hours in a day.08:07
histoarunkumar413: Thank god you didn't experience any bugs in windows.08:08
garnethisto: I didn't too.08:08
PatrickCdoes anyone know what DM elementryos uses?08:08
PatrickCor is that not ubuntu based?08:08
vlacaarunkumar413: have we not tried to help you? yes. have you even provided the exact model of the laptop? no. that's why we suggested you to look for others who had a similar issue08:09
arunkumar413vlaca: i rarely use windows. It's just the sound quality which in noticed08:09
histoarunkumar413: what model laptop do you have?08:09
dr_willis  they may have their own dm08:09
majnoonhisto, he no have bugs in windows ? he must not be doing something right08:09
anonraptri have been running ubuntu 12.10 and its kind of a full featured beast. Tried Lubuntu today and it was fast and slick and easy to use. The machine I have ubuntu on is already a duelboot with backtrack 5 r3. can i cange ubuntu 12.10 to Lubuntu without losing the backtrack partition?08:10
arunkumar413vlaca: this is my laptop http://www.flipkart.com/combo-hp-pavilion-g6-2005ax-laptop-apu-quad-core-a8-4gb-500gb-win7-hb-1-5gb-graph/p/itmdaa2xq7jnnvch08:10
vlacaarunkumar413: it was histo who asked for the model, not me08:11
arunkumar413histo: http://www.flipkart.com/combo-hp-pavilion-g6-2005ax-laptop-apu-quad-core-a8-4gb-500gb-win7-hb-1-5gb-graph/p/itmdaa2xq7jnnvch08:11
garnetarunkumar413: Question. Does Windows work on your laptop?08:11
arunkumar413garnet: yes08:11
west333histo  just off the wall as an idea ,, if he sets up *nix on his box with  onboard sound as default  . then later adds card , but card is not seated correctly or some -such to which the added isnt detected08:12
garnetThen why are you spending your time breaking things and trying to install an OS which doesn't?08:12
histoarunkumar413: I don't see a single result for someone experiencing the behavior you are. Are you play the same audio file in both OS's?08:12
west333then it would make sense that the driver is afk or non-operative08:12
histowest333: he's runnning a lappy08:12
histoanonraptr: apt-get install lubuntu-desktopp08:13
histoanonraptr: and remove the ubuntu desktop stuff.08:13
arunkumar413histo: yes, the surround is missing in linux where as in windows the surround sound is good08:13
histoarunkumar413: it's a laptop it has fake surround. You need to open alsamixer and check your levels for the surround.08:14
histoarunkumar413: most likely your other "channels" are turned down or muted08:14
arunkumar413histo: then how to enable them08:15
histoarunkumar413: with alsamixer   You can run that in a terminal08:15
arunkumar413histo: which sound is ubuntu using is it oss or alsa08:15
histoarunkumar413: the volume manager may have the ability to add those channels as well.08:15
arunkumar413histo: in the default sound applet it is not showing the other channels08:16
arunkumar413histo: now installing the alsa mixer08:17
histoarunkumar413: there is somewhere to enable the other channels.  Edit preferences or something. I don't use unity so I can't look for you.08:17
histoarunkumar413: or alsamixer will show all of them under the playback menu08:18
Ben64i don't think there are other channels08:18
histoBen64: My laptop has them08:18
histoBen64: with my dolby home theater whatever garbage sound system.08:19
Ben64how do you have it hooked to your system08:19
arunkumar413histo: no alsamixer not showing the channels. it just shows master volume level, mic level, etc,,,....08:20
histoBen64: it's built into the lappy. Here... let me post screen shot08:21
histoarunkumar413: press F308:21
histoarunkumar413: or F5 for all08:21
arunkumar413histo: f3 is for brightneess08:21
west333arunkumar413:  I see that you are looking for a decent sound control GUI , try  pavucontrol it works for the alsa system via pulse audio   the instal for that if you like is   sudo apt-get install pavucontrol08:21
histoBen64: arunkumar413 http://imagebin.org/24402408:22
west333it will obviously add on the depends for your spin08:22
histoarunkumar413: no F3 in alsamixer is for playback, F4 is for capture levels, F5 is for all08:22
Ben64histo: because its hdmi08:22
histoBen64: not it's not08:23
Ben64it says so08:23
histoBen64: yes there is a hdmi out on the laptop but i'm not using it.08:23
Ben64thats why you have the extra channels08:23
phongdatglshare wallpaper :D08:24
histophongdatgl: what my tron lightcycle?08:24
subcoolcan someone help me- i screwed up my home directory permissions08:25
west333subcool:  what happpened08:25
Ben64!rootirc | Bliso08:25
ubottuBliso: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.08:25
west333we just went over this08:25
subcoolwest333, no clue- i thought i knew what iw as doing before..08:25
FloodBot1phongdatgl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:25
histosubcool: what do you mean screwed up?08:25
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histophongdatgl: http://imagebin.org/24402508:26
west333subcool:  ok , no big , where are you ate  with RWX on anything08:26
arunkumar413histo: pavucontrol not showing the centre and surround levels08:26
subcooldrwxrwxrwx 8 subcool subcool 4096 Jan 24 02:14 Ext3Storage08:27
west333everything in the  ~?  [ home directory should  be  all yours08:27
subcoold-wx--x--x 53 subcool subcool  4096 Jan 23 18:45 subcool08:27
histoarunkumar413: IDK then just a thought at something to try.  How did you discover this?  Are you playing the same audio file in Windows and Linux?08:27
bluebeat09hi. anyone using caffeine app in ubuntu 12.10?08:27
Ben64subcool: what are you trying to do08:27
arunkumar413histo: YES08:27
Ben64arunkumar413: whats the problem08:28
arunkumar413histo: sorry for capitasl08:28
subcooli messed up the permissions to my directoryes08:28
west333subcool:  ok so specifically .... what is the issue with  files08:28
Ben64subcool: thats what you did, what were you trying to accomplish?08:28
histosubcool: chmod go-x08:28
Ben64don't do that ^08:29
subcoolI have two folders. /media/Ext3Storage and /home/subcool - i need their permissions fixed08:29
histosubcool: chmod u+r go-x /home/subcool08:29
phongdatglviet nam de08:29
west333ok  you arnt follwing ,,,, initially  what files were bugging you for acces08:29
histoBen64: Yes I meant the second one08:29
Ben64subcool: sudo chmod 755 /home/subcool08:29
Ben64histo: no that is bad as well08:29
histoBen64: how's that?08:29
Ben64try removing execute bit on a folder and see what happens08:30
histosubcool: sorry that's right08:30
arunkumar413histo: i need to to these things to get good sound. 1. enable the correct audio device 2)configure the device to use the correct audio driver rather than default linux driver08:30
subcoolk- thanks..08:30
histosubcool: should be chmod u+xrw g+r /home/subcool08:30
kepler'sudo rm -fr /home/*' then pan handle in /usr08:30
subcoolsorry- i wold tried to fix it on my own, but- i already messed it up08:30
vlacaarunkumar413: do you have proprietary linux drivers for your sound card?08:30
Ben64arunkumar413: have you tried "sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio"08:30
bluebeat09hi. anyone using caffeine app in ubuntu 12.1008:31
cristian_cI've enabled suspend with: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend08:31
Ben64histo: why not just use octal?08:31
histosubcool: ll /home/08:31
cristian_cIt works but when I try resume, a kernel panic occurs or desktop is unusable08:31
Ben64cristian_c: then stop resuming :|08:31
cristian_cIf I launch chromium by the terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: No such file or directory08:31
arunkumar413Ben64: why should i remove the pulse audio08:31
histoBen64: Becuaes it's easier for people to under stand ugo and +-wxr  ...08:31
Ben64arunkumar413: because it can make audio sound bad on certain systems08:31
cristian_cBen64, but I must resume when I suspend08:31
Ben64cristian_c: then don't suspen08:32
cristian_cBen64, why?08:32
Ben64because it messes up...08:32
arunkumar413Ben64: yes done08:32
west333ok  subcool   7 = r/w/x  6= r/w  4 =r  5 = r x  2= w , 4 =r  1= x , 0= nada ....... so your folders  for UGO , user /group / owner  should  be  7 55 as is a standard ,,, do we concur08:33
cristian_cBen, ok, obviously at this moment I'm not running the suspension to pc08:34
histowest333: yes 755  lol wow did I typo the hell out of my suggestions08:34
EskimoBob_afk Hi, any ideas where can I get libxul-embedding and nspr installed in *ubuntu?08:34
cristian_cHow can I solve this problem?08:34
histosubcool: chmod 755 /home/subcool   will fix your ~08:35
west333subcool:  so we should have the  chattr  settings for those as  75508:35
EskimoBob_afkwhere do you buntu guys hide libxul-embedding and nspr?08:35
vlacahisto: that's 0755 :P08:35
west333 or else if   chmod  dir / *  75508:35
west333or similar08:36
SajarI have some questions about runlevels and services in ubuntu 12.4.01 LTS. Anyone who might be able to help?08:36
west333 ok slow typing08:36
histowest333: -R08:36
histovlaca: chmod 755 works08:37
west333ok  - R = recursive08:37
EskimoBob_afkI need to get spice-xpi installed but missing libxul-embedding and nspr and searching has no usable results08:37
vlacahisto: apparently yes, it assume the mising digits are zeroes08:38
histosubcool: you could use the chmod -R 755 /home/subcool     or chmod -R u=rwx g=rx o=rx /home/subcool08:39
cristian_cAny ideas?08:39
histosubcool: althought that will make every file x08:39
west333subcool: chattr works best  my friend in CLI ...  do the man page on it   man chattr08:39
subcoolso many options08:40
west333755 is what you want on all except root  files08:40
subcooli used the basic one08:40
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subcool755 seemed to work08:41
EskimoBob_afknspr is OK now I am still missing libxul-embedding08:41
subcoolim trying to manage and use utorrent server for linux, because im tired wine and the other... im not winning this battle08:41
histosubcool: are you planning on serving torrents?08:42
EskimoBob_afkso any of yo know what pkg has libxul-embedding because I can not find it with find08:42
subcoolhisto, not really-08:42
MonkeyDustsubcool  why not use transmission or deluge?08:42
subcooljust enough to share what i dl08:42
histosubcool: What do you want just a cli app to dl torrents?08:42
EskimoBob_afkand google searches have returned 0 usable answers08:42
west333ya 755  is read all  execute owner08:42
icerootwhen installing grub from a rescue cd will there be any issues? because its not the grub from the ubuntu cd (issues for upgrades) or should i always use the ubuntu-live cd to install grub?08:42
qualiadoes my MAC address change with operating system change ?08:42
icerootqualia: no08:43
west333group read08:43
histoiceroot: No if it's grub208:43
EskimoBob_afkiceroot: use the CD for start08:43
subcooloriginallly - i wanted to use the remote and such- but i recently realized that server doenst have any of those options.08:43
cjaeis it better to encase a directory and it contents for transfer, even it the contents could not be compressed anymore. eg. a mp3 folder . would this make it not necessarily faster but a smoother transfer over various protocols?08:43
histo!grub2 > iceroot08:43
ubottuiceroot, please see my private message08:43
icerootcjae: just use tar which is not compressing files08:43
subcooli like the remote app thats available.  - and i just cant seem to find a working environement08:43
histocjae: wouldn't speedup anything.08:44
cjaeiceroot: right but does a tared file make for a smoother transfer ?08:44
histocjae: you could try using rsync and see if compression would speedup or not.  -n is a dry run.08:44
cjaehisto: tried rsync already08:44
histocjae: I would use rsync for a smooth transfer. I do offsite bakcups with it running as a cronjob.08:45
subcoolim giving up for the night- its 4 am08:45
icerootcjae: make what?08:45
subcoolthanks for the help with my permissions..08:45
histosubcool: check out rtorrent whne you wake up08:45
west333subcool:  although its read /write  most time any writes to a file wil be logged  and you can track it  so 755 is a std method for new installs for ~/ files>08:45
histowest333: would the issue with -R 755 be that all files would then be +x instead of just rw08:46
subcoolhisto, i saw that on xbmc -08:46
vlacawest333: that's interesting, where are any writes to a file logged exactly?08:46
EskimoBob_afkAny ideas how (from what pkg) can I get libxul-embedding installed?08:46
cjaeI mean it seems if I try to copy over the said folder with multiple small files, not compressed, the transfer speeds seem to struggle at point where the mulitple files are located08:46
subcoolI really just like the ida of having the server running, and being able to add new torrent from my phone.08:47
EskimoBob_afkwho ever has this chmod "problem" use http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/chmodcal.shtml :)08:47
EskimoBob_afkLOL and learn what those numbers mean08:47
cjaepictures whatever, im not trying to get faster, it just "seems" that say one larger file doesnt go 5, 20,15, 2 27,2,13 MB/s08:48
subcoolEskimoBob_afk, nice link- thanks08:48
cjaedoes that make any sense08:48
EskimoBob_afksubcool: np08:48
vlacaEskimoBob_afk: do you have something like libxul-dev installed08:49
qiyongthis is x86_64, why do-release-upgrade tries to fetch binary-i386 ?08:49
kjelle.o/ Anyone know a good linux daemon to use as LDAP against other linux workstations (e.g. they use likewise to auth to this linux daemon) - but this linux daemon must be a sync (read-only AD) from a windows AD server.08:49
EskimoBob_afkcjae: no and there can be billions of reasons08:49
kjelleso Windows AD server -> sync ubuntu server. Linux clients LDAP auth -> ubuntu server. Which software could I use on my ubuntu server?08:49
cjaeit would be nice to see just 20 all the time, so my question is ... is it worth it to bother tarring directories08:49
histosubcool: rtorrent is the way to go. It can monitor a directory for .torrent files and start dl'ng them08:49
west333histo  funny you  "menchion " it , my neighbor is a media scarf  and wanted me to rape my  * nix  box with tat windbloze  attache crud \08:50
MonkeyDustkjelle  there's zafra, zimbra, landscape08:50
EskimoBob_afkvlaca: there is no libxul-dev available08:50
EskimoBob_afkdid you even try: aptitude search libxul-dev ?08:51
histocjae: no08:51
histocjae: for a safe transfer I would use rsync08:51
kjelleMonkeyDust: hmms okey.08:51
vlacaEskimoBob_afk: although it's about 9.10, see http://mozilla.6506.n7.nabble.com/where-to-get-libxul-embedding-for-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-td236628.html08:51
kjelleIll check them out08:51
histocjae: tar doens't compress at all.08:51
qiyongthis is x86_64, why do-release-upgrade tries to fetch binary-i386 ?08:51
vnc786did "sudo apt-get -d install wine1.4" and all files are downloaded in "/var/cache/apt/archives" but when doing "dpkg -i wine* lib* zlib*" it is again asking for some dependencies08:51
cjaeEskimoBob_afk: well I seem to get horrible transfers over smb, 20-30 MB/s at best, when I use NFS I get cpu topping at the box doing the writing, and if use ftp I get about 50 average08:51
cjaebut who uses ftp08:51
EskimoBob_afkcjae: I have seen that page multiple times but this is no help08:51
EskimoBob_afkit's outdated and those pkg are no longer available08:52
cjaeEskimoBob_afk: did nt send you a page08:52
w00bihow do I mount a samba share to a folder? Can't find a command that works08:52
EskimoBob_afkit was vlaca08:52
vnc786how do i give /var/cache/apt/archives has a source08:53
EskimoBob_afkvlaca: I have seen that page multiple times but this is no help08:53
baronoswhy the totem in ubuntu without searching youtube? and debian with youtube?08:53
EskimoBob_afkit's outdated and those pkg are no longer available08:53
histovnc786: becuase you missed some dependancies08:53
cjaehisto: right and my folders already have jpeg and mp3 so it wouldnt squish much anyway08:53
histovnc786: -d doesn't pull all the depends I believe.  Whya re you trying to do this btw?08:53
cjaehisto: so what is the purpose of tar then?08:54
histocjae: Yeah you can get compression on that08:54
histocjae: tar is just a container08:54
cjaehisto: and containers dont transfer smoother ?08:54
EskimoBob_afkcjae: NFS is a joke so what did you expect? faster data transfer than your network can support ? :)08:55
vnc786histo: all dependencies are there in folder08:55
vnc786histo: will be installing on multiple pc so...08:55
histocjae: Yeah I think your thinking about pointless things. You are bottlenecked by your network. Now if you were transferring a bunch of smaller files you may run into some issues.08:55
cjaeEskimoBob_afk: not at all, not sure how many times ive said smoother not faster08:55
histovnc786: use apt-get intall wine   after you pull the depends not dpkg08:56
qualiais WPS not supported by wpa_supplicant ?08:56
histoqualia: I don't believe so.08:57
histocjae: define smoother?08:57
EskimoBob_afkFUUUUUUU that xul thingy and *ubuntu!08:57
histocjae: risk of data corruption?  If that is your concern then you would be using rsync but you refuse for some reason.08:57
histoEskimoBob_afk: what are you trying to install that needs it?  also apt-file may be of some help here.08:58
cjaehisto: rsync is fine just exploring other things, I use it for things I cannot afford to lose08:58
histocjae: again then I don't know what you mean by smooth on a file transfer.08:58
vnc786histo: will do that but want to know if all dependcies are there in so can i tell or give source to dpkg command08:58
nibblercan anyone recommend a nice webgallery that runs fine on ubuntu (server)? i'm overwhelmed by the choices to take: gallery3, coppermine.....08:59
histovnc786: apt-get will start downloadign dependancies if they aren't there.08:59
cjaehisto:  5, 20,15, 2 27,2,13 MB/s  is what I would call rough transfer speeds and smooth would bounce between 20-25 MB/s08:59
histovnc786: if they are in cache it will use that copy08:59
histocjae: so again speed is the issue. When you are transfering smaller files you are going to see a hit like that. If you tar'd you may get more consistent speeds09:00
cjaehisto: ok  thats what I was asking09:00
cjaewell it not to go faster, just stop slowing to point of pausing09:01
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BillyZanehow do i configure openSSH on ubuntu?09:01
vlacaBillyZane: for what?09:01
erboBillyZane: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config?09:01
nibblerBillyZane: just install it, and you are done with the basics, check out /etc/sshd for details09:01
histocjae: that's from the small files.  You could resolve it with a multi stream transfer. Or making one big file ex: tar or use compression.09:01
histo!ssh | BillyZane09:01
ubottuBillyZane: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)09:01
MonkeyDustBillyZane  basically: ssh [remote user]@[remote IP]09:02
histoBillyZane: the server side or the client?09:02
BillyZanei installed it... i typed man openssh_config09:02
histoBillyZane: the server config is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config09:02
cjaehisto: thanks, I just didnt know how to ask that to google, was hard enough to try to explain what I meant lol09:02
BillyZaneohh ok...09:02
histoBillyZane: the user clientside stuff can be put in ~/.ssh09:02
erboBillyZane: man sshd_config09:02
nibblerBillyZane: chance is, you are already done09:02
histocjae: tranfer speed or throughput was what you were looking for not smooth09:03
BillyZanenibbler: first time doing it... now sure how it works09:03
histoBillyZane: you can ssh localhost   and see if it's answering09:03
BillyZanenibbler. i installed.... openssh-server09:04
BillyZaneok i'll try09:04
histoBillyZane: If you are going to port forward on your router so You can get to this box from the outside world, may I recomend installing fail2ban so you server doesn't get hammered.09:04
EskimoBob_afkhisto: I need to get spice-xpi installed but missing libxul-embedding and searching via google has no usable results09:04
EskimoBob_afkI have wasted a half a morning on this bs now09:04
BillyZaneit says authenticity of localhost can't be established, ECDSA key fingerprint is .....09:04
BillyZanehisto: sure09:04
BethovenLedUbuntu 12.04 LTS09:05
histoEskimoBob_afk: Let me do some quick searching09:05
BethovenLedIf I increase my RAMs09:05
histoBillyZane: you can hit yes to accept09:05
BillyZanehisto: oh btw, this is a virtual box i have it on, lol. i have a ubuntu proper install though09:05
BethovenLedUbuntu usually accept how much ?09:05
BillyZanei suppose virtual box won't really do right?09:05
histoBillyZane: that's a secuirty measure so that you can know if the host you are connecting to has changed or you arevictim to a man in the middle attack.09:05
histoBillyZane: no it will.09:06
BethovenLedPlease if anyone can help ?09:06
EskimoBob_afkhisto: thanx09:06
Hannofcarti just installed nvidia-current-updates (after installing the generic linux headers). lshw -c video lists nvidia as the driver. Yet, on kde, my window decorations are messed up, no panels at top, resolution is downgraded.... what could be wrong/09:06
histoBethovenLed: 64g b09:06
MonkeyDust!memory | BethovenLed is this useful09:06
ubottuBethovenLed is this useful: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html09:06
BillyZanehisto: what's that program called again?09:07
cjaehisto: ya im just trying to wrap head around protocols, since the reported network speed should be about 125 MB/s which is never reached, but to see only 13 Mb/s is hard to understand the overhear there. FTP seems to be about the best at 50 and + somtimes.09:07
BethovenLed64 Gb RAM you mean ?09:07
Sajaris anyone familiar with the symbolic links in the /etc/rc#.d folders and how to configure them on 12.04?09:07
histoEskimoBob_afk: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196041609:07
west333BethovenLed:  whqt is the issue ther09:07
histoBillyZane: which program?09:07
west333something about ram?09:08
histoBethovenLed: yes09:08
histoBethovenLed: that's the limit09:08
BillyZanehisto: you said there's an app that protects your ssh server from middle man attacks and such09:08
west333what OS are you using09:08
BethovenLedOh Cool thanks histo09:08
west333 32 bit or 64 bit09:08
BillyZanehisto: isn't openSSH really secure though? i don't see why i'd even need it, but i guess it's needed09:08
histoBethovenLed: sorry that's with pae 32bit kernel with 64 bit system it's aro9und 1TB09:08
histoBethovenLed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#Memory09:09
BethovenLedI am using a 32 bits processor so ==> 64 Gb right ?09:09
MonkeyDustBethovenLed  with PAE09:10
histoBillyZane: you need fail2ban!!!! It stops brute force attempts on your server. It allows people three tries within so many minutes and then bans their ip for 5 minutes by default.09:10
BethovenLedWhat is PAE ?09:10
histoBillyZane: unless you enable key based logins09:10
histoBethovenLed: Physical address extension09:10
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info09:10
BillyZanehisto: ohhh nice, then they can't use a brute force attack to enter09:10
west333BethovenLed:  you can figure out  max Q memory  with a calculator    64 bit  is  [2^64th power ] = mem max09:11
histoBillyZane: right. You wouldn't believe where the attempts come from.  China mostly. I even had a login attempt from an Australian DoD computer that had most likely been comprimised.09:11
Sajaris anyone familiar with the symbolic links in the /etc/rc#.d folders and how to configure them on 12.04?09:11
histowest333: but there are other limits on 64bit that bring it down to 1TB09:12
BillyZanehisto: trippy. to think my home computer would be attacked by chinese hackers09:12
west333 so as the lads in here said  there is also a max file size09:12
histo!upstart | Sajar09:12
ubottuSajar: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/09:12
zetheroois there a command which shows the version of the Intel driver in use?\09:12
west333yup  histo09:12
EskimoBob_afkhisto: thanx, this was one of the first pages I ended up :) but sorry to say, this will not resolve the problem because xulrunner-1.9.2_1.9.2.28+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1_i386.deb craps out. There are some dependency problems and someone has even filed a bug09:12
histoBillyZane: yeap.. YOu can run a honeypot if you want to see what they are doing. There are programs like kippo that are fun to play with.09:12
west333 else off  the max file size is larger tho09:13
west333contiguous , aka VM09:13
histoEskimoBob_afk: Yes.. Did you contact the devs of splice-xpi  ??09:13
histoEskimoBob_afk: and is there another program that you could use possibly?09:13
BillyZanehisto: it's freaking late. i need to sleep, i gotta wake up and stdy too but i need to get this working also, whoe is me. what shoul i do09:13
EskimoBob_afkmy hatred of kubuntu has risen to FUUUU from FUU ... LOL09:13
BillyZaneEskimoBob_afk: i'm getting bored of kubuntu also09:14
somsipBillyZane: try Fail2Ban if you want to keep them out as soon as they start to do silly stuff09:14
BillyZanei want a new desktop environment now09:14
Sajarthank you ubottu. I'll look into it. Will this mean that the rc#.d will be useless?09:14
BillyZanesomsip: ok, i'll try it09:14
EskimoBob_afkhisto: no, I do not have a user in bugs something something page09:14
nibblerBillyZane: dozends of desktop enviroments are just an apt-get away....09:14
histoEskimoBob_afk: http://www.ovirt.org/Ovirt_build_on_debian/ubuntu#SPICE  There is deb at the bottom of the page09:15
EskimoBob_afki have used gentoo for 10 years so this apt-* sh** is really strange to me :)09:15
nibblersomsip: i see bruteforcers adapting to fail2ban already, only scanning a few combinations a time and coming back later...09:15
histoEskimoBob_afk: https://launchpad.net/~gekkio/+archive/spice  is the ppa09:15
west333BillyZane:  try  the LXDE  insted of KDE ,, just install it , and at login  change session to  lxde09:16
nibblerEskimoBob_afk: by strange you mean "strangely fast and slick", coming from gentoo, eh?09:16
EskimoBob_afkhisto: oh, let me check that out :) thanx09:16
somsipnibbler: not really an effective way to crack passwords then is it? It all depends on what limits the server admin wants to set on different logs.09:16
histoEskimoBob_afk: Yeah you are suffering from dependancy hell right now. Worst case scenario you could build all the dependancies from source by yourself.09:16
BillyZanewest333: that is the one i'm actually looking at09:16
west333^5 kiddo ,, its a good DE09:17
EskimoBob_afkhisto: no, life is too short for this09:17
histoEskimoBob_afk: then I would suggest trying the PPA09:17
histo!ppa > EskimoBob_afk09:17
ubottuEskimoBob_afk, please see my private message09:17
EskimoBob_afkI am going to09:17
nibblersomsip: highly effective, as it beats fail2ban.... instead of having 100 overtaken hosts scanning one target each, each goes for 3 tries each host, and then to the next target, coming back to the original one 12h later. gives them the same try/second rate over the targeted servers, just without having to worrie about 5m-12h bans via fail2ban09:17
BillyZanewest333: have you tried cinnamonne09:18
EskimoBob_afkPPA it is, lets see what happens09:18
west333no thanks09:18
west333 lol09:18
histowest333: what is kiddo?09:18
histowest333: oh nvm...Lol  I thought you were saying kiddo is a good DE09:18
west333kiddo is a friendly way of saying  buddy09:18
histoBillyZane: XFCE is nice to. Although lately i've been running Awesome WM. I can't stand using my mouse.09:19
west333nm ,, np  bo big09:19
west333no big**09:19
BillyZanehisto, i'll check out XFCE09:19
SajarMost people I know would take "Kiddo" as an insult :909:19
somsipnibbler: ok - I'd not considered distributed attacks like that. However 5m - 12h bans are configurable. It was a suggestion, not set in stone. YMMV09:19
opalepatrickusing unity with 12.10 - have a problem with launcher and hud/lens disappearing behind browsers other apps etc. Anyone have any ideas?09:19
west333uggghhh  xfce09:19
BillyZanei guess i can try it09:20
west333 lacky - sphere , no options09:20
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opalepatricklol, its an acquired taste09:20
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fidel!info avant-window-navigator09:20
ubottuPackage avant-window-navigator does not exist in quantal09:20
histonibbler: I'mm not seeing that sort of activity09:20
EskimoBob_afkfuu, buntu has versions, damn...  so , if i have "precise" and the help uses "snotty" do I just replace the snotty with precise in "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gekkio/spice/ubuntu natty main"09:20
fidelinteresting - it existed until 12.04 then09:20
BillyZanewest333: no?09:21
west333thats exactly why I went to lxde ,, xfce was a lacky09:21
EskimoBob_afkoops, it's natty, same difference09:21
west333try lxde09:21
nibblersomsip: even if its not distributed, the total attempt/second and final success rate, considering 1000-10000 attempts per host, is easily achivable. i am now banning foreign IPs permanently, and only unban those of my local country....09:21
fidelwhat dock-like app would you guys recommend me insteed of AWN then?09:21
BillyZanewest333: i'm using kubuntu atm, is lxde that much better? i kinda like the retro... simple. low quality look. that is to say, no fancy transparencies. i'm sorta use to it on windows 7 though, and my PC is not slow by any means09:21
histoEskimoBob_afk: Hrm... The PPA is old then if it has references to Natty and no precise.09:22
somsipnibbler: I'm not interested in a discussion on the merits of Fail2Ban right now. You have some valid points. I don't experience any attacks like that on my server. I'm working now, so EOT for me09:22
apm1lxde is the plainest desktop one can get09:22
fidelBillyZane: how about just testing it up?09:22
opalepatrickwest333, I meant unity... been using mint adn like it, but some things are very easy from a workflow pov with unity... testing my patience though :-)09:22
west333BillyZane:  then you will lik it over xf09:22
EskimoBob_afkhisto: ok :(09:22
fidelBillyZane: you can simply install xfce and any other environment besides your kde09:22
BillyZanefidel: for sure.09:22
histonibbler: where did you obtain a list of country specific ips?09:22
west333no unire max Q for ram in a calc BethovenLed:   you can figuty is for faster boxes , not lappys09:22
sarujiGetting error message please re-install "software center", tried to purge and than install, same error09:23
west333ok that got messed  unity is for higher end boxes ,09:23
sarujisystem is 12.10 on a x230t laptop09:23
west333and dweebs09:23
opalepatrickwhere do I go to find unity lovers then #masochism ?09:23
sarujiany ideas or directions?  thank you ahead of time09:23
histoEskimoBob_afk: hrm.....09:24
west333 lxde is for lower end / older machines  good on lapppies09:24
apm1saruji, hows the hardware support on the x230t ?09:24
histoEskimoBob_afk: there are packages for precise in jason brooks ppa09:24
west333lxde is the low end kde09:24
histoEskimoBob_afk: so yes change to precise09:24
nibblerhisto: geoip does help you09:25
BillyZanequick question.. is xfde a full featured desktop? i don't want to lose functionality09:25
MonkeyDustBillyZane  try it, to see if you miss something09:25
apm1BillyZane, it is more than what unity provides :p09:25
wald0what is the most recent/updated branch of ubuntu ? i have "quantal" and "raring" on my sources.list, and where fits "precise" btw ?09:25
histoBillyZane: yes xfce is full featured.  There is also xubuntu   which is centered around xfce09:26
BillyZaneima check that out09:26
histo!releases | wald009:26
ubottuwald0: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases09:26
MonkeyDustwald0  precise is an LTS, raring is the future release09:26
histoBillyZane: you can have multiple DE's installed on one machine also.09:26
sarujiapm1, awesome09:26
histoBillyZane: you choose what DE you want on the login screen.09:26
wald0MonkeyDust: what is an lts ?09:27
apm1long term support releses09:27
ubottuwald0: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)09:27
sarujiapm1, literaly just popped in 12.10 with my thumb drive and all is working, using xournal is really nice, cleaner to manage than onenote, really am happy!09:27
BillyZanei'm presuming xfde is xfdesktop409:27
MonkeyDustwald0  long term support, longer support, updates09:27
apm1saruji, did the fingerprint reader work ?09:28
sarujiapm1, but right now my software center is not working, guess i'll just apt-get everything09:28
sarujiapm1, could not tell you, i did not get it included on the machine09:28
BillyZanewhy does xfde have 3 types of installs... xfdektop4, -data and -dbg, will these all install after i install xfdesktop4 ?09:28
west333BillyZane:  I have used RH 6~9. fed 3~10, Sue 11.2 and Ubu 10.4~12.04 .... and the lxde DE comes up as a 10 over gnome for attractiveness and way under KDE for resource hog status09:28
criiptHow do I recover my ubuntu password? =(09:29
OnkeltemCan I upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 12.04 if I will boot from 12.04 iso?09:29
criiptDon't want to reinstall.09:29
sarujihello, could anyone point me towards a solution to software center missing or being corrupted?09:29
Onkeltems/I will/I/09:29
BillyZanewest333: well i guess i'm sold then. i sorta like gnome though, LOL09:29
cfhowlettOnkeltem, you can clean install but not upgrade09:29
west333openbox also alows 2 modes   xfce mode  and gnome mode09:29
Onkeltemcfhowlett: will it preserve my data?09:29
apm1saruji, try reinstalling unity it'll pull it as a dependency , i hope09:29
west333BillyZane:  install it , try it09:29
cfhowlettOnkeltem, if you have a dedicated separate /home and do not format /home09:30
BillyZanewest333: i'm installing xfdesktop4 atm09:30
histoBillyZane: it's xfce not xfde09:30
west333 then make notes09:30
sarujiapm1, should i do a purge of unity?09:30
BillyZaneumm... wait09:30
histo!xfce | BillyZane09:30
ubottuBillyZane: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels09:30
west333 np09:30
apm1saruji, no just reinstall via synaptic09:30
BillyZanei thought xfde was the better one09:30
cjaecriipt: write your password in black permanent marker on something black plastic, eg, back of monitor  hold in light to reveal :p09:30
BillyZanehisto: i'll install xfce also :)09:30
cfhowlettsaruji, I wouldn't.  Just install the DE you want and use that.09:30
MonkeyDustBillyZane  better is a matter of taste09:30
Onkeltemcfhowlett: no, I don't have a dedicated partition for /home09:31
histoBillyZane: there is not xfde package. If you are install xfdesktop4  that is a desktop background and stuff.09:31
sarujicfhowlett, DE? Differential Equa?09:31
MonkeyDustsaruji  desktop environment09:31
sarujiok really confused now09:31
histosaruji: desktop environment09:31
sarujiMonkeyDust, oh09:31
BillyZanehisto: how do i get it then?09:31
sarujithanks all09:31
cfhowlettOnkeltem, then /home will not be preserved and will be overwritten09:32
sarujicfhowlett, i want the default one that comes with ubuntu desktop09:32
apm1saruji, i am not sure it'll work 100%09:32
cfhowlettsaruji, Desktop Environment *unity xfce, etc.09:32
histoBillyZane: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  For the complete xubuntu experience.  If you want to go minimal you could just sudo apt-get install xfce409:32
sarujiapm1, no problem09:32
BillyZanehisto: when i do sudo apt-cache search xfde , i only see 3 results09:32
apm1its xfce09:32
sarujicfhowlett, ok so sudo apt-get purge unity?09:32
cfhowlettsaruji, default is unity09:32
sarujiand than install09:32
histoBillyZane: Right because its' XFCE<<<< Notice the C not a D.09:32
Onkeltemcfhowlett: heh, even Windows can keep data09:32
apm1search for xfce409:32
sarujifrom command prompt?09:32
cfhowlettsaruji, I'd suggest you do not purge unity.  Just don't use it.09:32
west333MonkeyDust:  exactly  so I want billy to install it  and at login , doo a sesion  lxde ad try it09:32
MonkeyDustsaruji  no need and you'll probably ruin yous rystem09:32
histoBillyZane: you keep typing xfde  for some reason.09:33
sarujiok so how can i reinstall my DE, in order to fix my software center???09:33
west333good thing my typos dont count  for appearances09:33
BillyZaneok, i'll try the other desktop...09:33
cfhowlettOnkeltem, dedicated /home is easy to establish.  set it up, then do your upgrade09:33
BillyZaneso xfce and xfde are all part of xubunutu?09:33
MonkeyDustsaruji  if you don't like unity, install something else, logout, select something else, login09:33
apm1BillyZane, no xubuntu is a remix of ubuntu +xfce09:34
sarujiMonkeyDust, i like unity, just getting an error when starting ubuntu software09:34
histosaruji: what's wrong with your software center?09:34
west333billy apm1 same old routine  login  sudo apt-get install  lxde09:34
MonkeyDustsaruji  try sudo apt-get install softwarecenter --reinstall09:34
west333log out ,,,,,, login lxde session09:35
apm1west333, when did i ask that :p09:35
west333 mod as you will09:35
histoBillyZane: lxde is the same way there is lubuntu-desktop  for lxde+ubuntu  Or you can just install these DE's by themselves. The choice is yours.09:35
sarujiMonkeyDust, ok will do09:35
MonkeyDustsaruji  try sudo apt-get install software-center --reinstall09:35
apm1west333, no i am not asking a question ,i know this stuff :p09:35
Onkeltemcfhowlett: what do you mean - establish? Whole hdd is already partitioned and it has exactly two partitions for "/" & sawp09:36
meetwhen installing software through software center, is any .deb file or as such stored anywhere on my computer?09:36
sarujiMonkeyDust, running it now, thanks09:36
apm1meet, most are stored in your apt cache09:36
west333I forgot about the name groupings  as I aid , as a noob here  it will take awhile\09:36
histomeet: /var/cache/apt/archives/09:37
meetapm1: will i be able to use them for installation on another computer? It has got an internet connection but slow.09:37
dagerikwhen I boot there is an error that /tmp was unable to mount. help09:37
apm1meet, as long as the dependencies are installed too09:37
histo!apt-mirror | meet09:37
histohrm.. what happened to that trigger09:38
apm1the bot sleeps :p09:38
jangquick question: using grub2 with ubuntu. In order to work around an mcp55 issue, I need to ensure that every new kernel gets a particular option added to the grub boot line. Is there a file to configure that?09:38
Name141is there an offical Spotify source now?09:39
BillyZanei want to try out xfde, not ce09:39
MonkeyDust<3 "quick questions", they can never be answered09:39
BillyZanehow do i install xfde ?09:39
meetwill everything running on ubuntu run on Zorin OS?09:39
apm1i have never in my life seen xfde09:39
west333BillyZane:  install both09:39
apossudo apt-get install xfce09:39
BillyZaneare you xure? wouldn't that install xubunutu09:39
aposBillyZane,  sudo apt-get install xfce09:39
BillyZanexubunutu is a remix of ubuntu and xfce, it's not xfce or xfde09:40
apm1apos, its apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies (for the noobs ) :p09:40
west333that way you can try all  xfce and  lxde  and gnome09:40
apospersonally i would recommend sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio09:40
jangMonkeyDust: perhaps not; /etc/grub.d/10_linux looks dense but also appears to not haul in any config file, which I find hard to believe09:40
BillyZanewest333: it installs all 3 at once?09:40
west333BillyZane:  you need to sudo apt-get , or lazy like me install from synaptic09:41
BillyZanexfce is unable to locate09:41
west333each is seperate09:41
BillyZanei can't find a proper package09:41
histojang: /etc/default/grub09:41
BillyZaneso i install all the packages09:42
apm1BillyZane, run this "sudo apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies"09:42
janghisto: thanks.09:42
histo!info spotify | Name14109:42
ubottuName141: Package spotify does not exist in quantal09:42
west333 sudo apt-get installl xfce09:42
BillyZaneapm1: working09:42
BillyZaneit's installing09:42
Name141histo: I'm using 12.04.109:42
apm1west333, the package name in the repos is xfce409:42
west333&&sudo apt-get install lxde09:42
histojang: more specifically the GRUB_CMDLIND_LINUX_DEFAULT  line09:42
Name141http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/the-quickest-way-to-install-spotify-client-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ doesn't help either09:42
BillyZanei'll try lxde also09:42
aposBillyZane,  personally i would recommend sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-desktop09:43
west333 yup thats the spin of xfce09:43
Name141says spotify-client-qt isn't there09:43
histoName141: what are you looking for exactly I didn't understand you rquestion09:43
janghisto: if we're ever co-located, that's earnt you a beer. cheers.09:43
Name141histo: To get Spotify native09:43
BillyZanei think this vbox only has about 122gb or so of space09:43
Name141histo: All though I guess I could just install wine09:43
BillyZaneerr.. 1209:43
west333 its the 4th release  so thats  the one you want09:43
histoName141: Oh it's a windows app09:43
Name141histo: I thought they ported it09:43
west333synaptic is soooo much easie09:43
aposUbuntu Studio runs xfce n out of the box is a really awedome system09:43
histoName141: http://www.spotify.com/us/blog/archives/2010/07/12/linux/09:44
apm1apos, ubuntu studio also pulls a lot of MM apps he'll never use09:44
histoName141: Google is your friend btw09:44
BillyZanei gotta sleep09:44
aposor will he?09:45
BillyZanethanks everyone.. wait wait i'll testout the new OS09:45
BillyZaneerr environment09:45
apm1apos, idts09:45
apm1did he say he's an artist kind09:45
histoapos: why would he install that?   H ejust wants to check out xfce09:45
west333histo ypu yup  google is09:45
apm1xfce4 and xfce4-goodies was the way to go09:45
apm1thus he did install it :)09:46
aposprobably like 80% of em, plus the rest being there ready to open any kind of file he'll ever get his hands on for the most part09:46
BillyZaneok i'm in xfce09:46
Name141histo: not google images anymore09:46
apm1BillyZane, do thank me in the future when you'll be a *nixer and xfce die hard :p09:46
BillyZaneooo.. i like it09:46
west333ok , nw log out of xfce  do a sesion change  to lxde and login09:46
BillyZaneit's kinda cool. i just hate the mac menu bar on the bottom09:47
BillyZanehmm.. i gotta install lxde right09:47
apm1its a panel not a dock09:47
aposyou can move it change it or get rid of it09:47
BillyZaneis it lxde4 ?09:47
west333ok  ya  that helps lol09:47
histoBillyZane: right click on the panel on the bottom and remove it09:47
west333apt-get  gets the current  spin09:47
BillyZaneoh so nice, i have 4 desktops :D09:47
histoBillyZane: lxde09:48
BillyZaneOMG so much better than kubuntu09:48
BillyZanei don't know why, but i lik eit09:48
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apm1BillyZane, you can increase the number of those desktops09:48
BillyZaneoh snap09:48
antonio_hey folks09:48
antonio_anyone here good with kdenlive?09:48
EskimoBob_afkhisto: you are the man! https://launchpad.net/~gekkio/+archive/spice  worked and there is no need to replace "natty" in "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gekkio/spice/ubuntu natty main " and deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/gekkio/spice/ubuntu natty main09:48
histoBillyZane: There are tons of DE's  Like I say you should just youtube like unity lxde xfce awesome wm    etc....09:48
histoEskimoBob_afk: You should replace natty with precise in your sources.list09:49
BillyZaneawesome wm.... hmm, i'll check that out09:49
histoEskimoBob_afk: could cause issues in the future. And they have precise packages in that ppa.09:49
apm1BillyZane, awesome wm is for experienced users09:49
aposi made mine smaller and put it on the left side of the screen09:49
aposxfce is nice09:49
aposbetter than unity09:49
apm1it is a tiling wm09:49
BillyZaneawesome WM  looks like a non-mouse based system09:49
Name141histo: well that worked09:49
aposantonio_,  i havent used kdenlive much. mostly just openshot09:50
BillyZaneapm1: i am not experienced. so i'll pass for now09:50
BillyZanewhat is the package name for lxde?09:50
BillyZaneis it lxde-desktop09:50
MonkeyDustfind lxde09:50
MonkeyDust!find lxde09:50
ubottuFound: lxde, lxde-common, lxde-core, lxde-icon-theme09:50
apossudo apt-get install lxde09:51
BillyZanei guess it's common ?09:51
apm1BillyZane, run "sudo apt-get install lxde"09:51
west333lxde is openbox . which is an evoluttion of blackbox  wm  so its going to be better than xfce09:51
somsip!info lubunut-desktop09:51
ubottuPackage lubunut-desktop does not exist in quantal09:51
histoBillyZane: Here's my awesome wm desktop http://imagebin.org/24402909:51
somsip!info lubuntu-desktop09:51
ubottulubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.45 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; ia64; sparc; lpia; armel; armhf)09:51
Name141I assume he doesn't want to just install lubuntu-desktop with everything ?09:51
BillyZanek, it's installing09:51
histoI just through up cmatrix for the lulz09:51
aposur gonna run out of drive space installing all these window managers if you only have 12gb09:51
antonio_apos: my main thing is, I don't know what profile I should use for a youtube video..so there are no black bars, etc.09:52
BillyZanei dunno why i'm getting this now, i like this desktop a lot, but it doesn't hurt to try09:52
somsiphisto: use your screens! (12 here, 10 in use...)09:52
BillyZaneoh! big question...09:52
BillyZanewhat's a good irc program, i hate kvirc09:52
aposi dont like the look and feel of lxde as much as xfce09:52
histosomsip: Nah I like splits I have a wide lappy monitor09:52
antonio_billyzane: I use xchat...never done me wrong09:52
BillyZanei agree, xfce is nice09:52
BillyZaneantonio, i'll give it a try09:53
apm1xfce is the best since the dawn of it09:53
aposxchat is nice09:53
BillyZanexchat installed09:53
antonio_fast :D09:53
BillyZaneok, i'm gona switch to lxde09:53
Name141Oh yeah, will there be any support for the 4670 in the next LTS, or is 12.04 the end of the line for the AMD non-free drivers all together ?09:53
histosomsip: Not really splits but tiling. What's thepoint of a tiling manager if you are going t use 12 screens?09:53
antonio_I love ubuntu..don't really like the video editing programs though09:53
apm1i am a debian refugee09:54
histoantonio_: yeah linux video editing has some issues right now.09:54
EskimoBob_afkjoke of the day! : RHEL webbased admin interface error message "Please open this page using Internet Explorer Version 7 and above on a Windows machine."09:54
EskimoBob_afkIE 7?09:54
BillyZanewow lxde loaded fast09:54
histoapm1: weechat or irssi here depending on my mood.09:54
antonio_so far kdenlive hasn't crashed yet09:54
histoBillyZane: lxde is really slim on resources09:54
histoBillyZane: there are even lighter DE's09:54
somsiphisto: becuase I have 16 things running, so I don't have to minimise anything. Some share screens, some (IDEs) are fullscreen. That's much of the point of awesome, I believe09:54
apm1histo, i can't cope with text files for configs :)09:54
BillyZanei think my bios uses more resources than this09:54
dagerikhow do I get internet connectivity in the rescue shell? ifconfig only shows the lo interface.09:54
somsiphisto: but each tot heir own. no wrong way09:55
BillyZaneit's nice. i gotta agree, it's nice. but xfce hits a sweet spot09:55
west333somsip:  yea way back when , i had a girl on each i a skimpy swim suit too... now its down to 2 desk tops09:55
antonio_Anyone in here decent with video editing?09:55
histosomsip: No tiling is the point. You can run virtual desktops in pretty much every DE09:55
histosomsip: true09:55
apm1BillyZane, welcome to *nix :)09:55
biancawhats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu09:55
west333 right click / advanced09:56
apm1ubuntu has unity and kubuntu has kde09:56
MonkeyDustbianca  gnome vs kde09:56
histobianca: ubuntu uses unity as the desktop environment while kubuntu uses kde09:56
west333BillyZane:  right click09:56
west333 check mark the box09:56
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west333 then you have the xfce style09:56
BillyZane2wow, this is nice09:57
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BillyZane2xchat that is09:57
penzurwhy does unity suck?09:57
histoBillyZane2: That's the beauty of linux. You can mess around change everything and there is about 100 ways to do the same task. You have to pick which is best for you.09:58
penzuris there a way to use xfce as a default desktop env?09:58
somsiphisto: I'm intrigued. How do you maximise previously minimised apps using only keys if you don't use screens? dO you really run everything on one screen?09:58
histopenzur: yes09:58
histopenzur: just install xfce and select it at the login screen instead of unity09:58
BillyZane2histo, you are so right about that. OMG SPELL CHECK!!!!!! I need this so bad09:58
histosomsip: yes09:58
penzurthanks histo!09:58
somsiphisto: how do you maxmimise with only keys?09:58
histosomsip: meta+w09:59
histosomsip: sorry meta+f09:59
somsiphisto: you have everything full screen and tab around them all?09:59
west333penzur:  no ,,,, on faer new machines , its faster than light ,, but the issue is the  method()  of it all , contradicts common thought09:59
west333fear = newer*10:00
histosomsip: No I have them tiled just like in that screenshot10:00
penzurwhat do you mean by method()?10:00
histosomsip: meta+spacebar will switch between tiling methods10:00
somsiphisto: private as it's OT?10:01
histosomsip: I also use vimium plugin in chrome. So I have vim keybindings for my web browser. I never touch the mouse er... touchpad in this case.10:01
histosomsip: sure10:01
west333its a 'rag on" programming methods .10:01
BillyZane2histo, west33, apm1: thanks for all the help, i really appreciate it. I gotta sleep, but i'll keep at it. I'm liking *nix more everyday10:01
apm1BillyZane, :)10:01
west333penzur:  it means that method is an emty set10:02
biancaI think linux sucks because i hate the whole surface thing, that they got rid of the start menu, and am always getting fuckin viruses, and random crashes... oh wait thats windows :P10:02
west333meaning we see it as a no go10:02
Tm_Tbianca: please stick in the topic10:03
MonkeyDustbianca  mind your language10:03
BillyZane2on a side note, i really need to get a dedicated linux box up and running here.. sigh10:03
BillyZane2umm.. ok good night10:03
ninersSo I just started Ubunu... don't know a whole lot about it... Not the most tech savvy guy in the world but I know my way around a computer about as good as most and Lenix is just a bit confusing... please help10:04
speek_o_guru!OT | niners10:05
MonkeyDustniners  start with a question10:05
ubottuniners: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:05
biancatheres lots of tutorials on youtube and such that can help you, im new too :)10:05
ninersBianca. How new are you to it? What are probems you've run into10:06
MonkeyDustniners  better get used to the system, then come back if you have a specific question10:07
antonio_damn kdenlive keeps on crashing...Why can't any linux video editing programs just work?10:07
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auronandaceantonio_: i like openshot10:08
ninersThanks Monkey Dust... Well here's a question... why do I have to use a windows emulator (wine) in order to use Netflix?10:08
MonkeyDustniners  because there's no native linux client10:08
ninersand that means what?10:08
MonkeyDustniners  netflix for linux does not exist, because the netflix guys didn't create one10:09
auronandaceniners: wine is not an emulator10:09
ninerswhat is it then?10:09
MonkeyDustniners  it's a layer10:09
ninersI was under the impression that is is10:09
west333BillyZane2:  so how di d you make out with th new DE10:09
auronandaceniners: a compatibility layer10:10
auronandaceniners: an emulator is software that pretends to be hardware, wine doesn't do that10:10
ninerswell what does that mean in laymen terms... I'm a hardware guy not software10:10
XtremeWizIs it possible to view my password if I have administrator privileges?10:10
ninerswhat does it do then if not that?10:10
west333ha et  wine ,  it should all be Xen10:11
auronandaceniners: it implements the windows apis on other operating systems10:11
MyrttiXtremeWiz: not in cleartext10:11
ninerssuch as lenix10:11
MonkeyDustniners  linux10:11
west333afk  brb10:11
ninersokay. cool10:11
ninerswell goodnight10:11
XtremeWizMyrtti: Thanks. How do i reset my password then?10:12
XtremeWizI forgot it. But I can login because it's not asking for a password.10:12
MyrttiXtremeWiz: passwd username10:13
elferthats what she said10:14
XtremeWizMyrtti: It says You may not view or modify password information for myusername10:16
histoXtremeWiz: sudo passwd username10:16
histoXtremeWiz: or you can boot in single user mode and passwd username10:17
XtremeWizWow thanks, that worked.10:17
histo!topic  | elfer10:18
ubottuelfer: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic10:18
Hanumaanhow to start mysql in ubuntu 12.10 ?10:18
lukas123Hello. For testing purpose I would like to install a very recent version of inkscape without mixing up my system. Is this possible? What term do I have to search for?10:18
XtremeWizHanumaan: try "/etc/init.d/mysql.server start"10:18
histoHanumaan: it should be started if you installed mysql server10:19
histolukas123: what do you mean installing it from source rather than the software center?10:19
mr0wlwhat is the difference between "fglrx-amdcccle" and "fglrx-amdcccle-updates?"10:20
XtremeWizwell, I reset my password, but when I tried to login, it says "the password you use to login no longer matches your login keyring... :/10:20
lukas123histo, from source is okay. I want to keep the version from software center clean and just try the source version for some days.10:20
histo!checkinstall | lukas12310:20
ubottulukas123: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!10:20
west333lukas123:  you cou;d start by telling the room which spin you are on  and if it's just a  matter of upgrades  try sudo apt-get upgrade  inskape10:21
lukas123histo, great. I will read the documentation.10:22
MoL0ToVhi to all! i see that latest xubuntu need more or 4GB to install. I have a asus eeepc with 4GB ssd internal disk. what are the latest version that fit in 4GB? leaving some space also to store some document or mp3..10:22
histoXtremeWiz: go to Passwords and Encryption keys and put your new password in there also.10:22
lukas123west333, I would like to try http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SymbolsDialog which is not in the repository-version. Thus I this histo's answer is a good solution.10:23
Hanumaanhisto, I think you figured out my problem .. got it thanks10:23
histolukas123: yeah always use checkinstall when compiling from source. Then you can easily remov ethe compiled deb.10:24
west333lukas123:  you are free to try and do as you wish ,,,, but sourse code is alwlays a  stained golden peak ,,, you do so with no  back up10:25
purplerain!minimal | MoL0ToV10:25
ubottuMoL0ToV: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD10:25
histowest333: that's why you use checkinstall10:25
dagerikI get this error "the boot the disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present". I have tried all suggestions from google results. Help10:26
west333 try it    ./ configure  , make clean , make ,  strip , sudo make install10:26
histo!lubuntu | MoL0ToV10:26
ubottuMoL0ToV: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.10:26
histodagerik: when do you get there arrer?10:26
histowest333: no ./configure make checkinstall    <---10:27
dagerikhisto: It's right after boot I get this error message.10:27
lukas123west333, That is right. I am just curious what is going to be released in the near future.10:27
histodagerik: do you have /tmp set to mount on a different drive?10:27
dagerikhisto: no, i think it's mapped to ram10:27
histodagerik: why?10:28
histodagerik: please pastebin your /etc/fstab10:28
west333 ya , but strip . cleans out extras after init chech  not debug10:28
west333else  heavy install10:28
dagerikhisto: it's a default ubuntu install, i dont know how it works10:28
histowest333: checkinstall creates a deb that you can easily install and remove.10:28
dagerikhisto: im unable to pastebin, but there are no entries for /tmp10:29
histodagerik: hrm.. Well that's an issue what sort of disk do you have?10:29
XtremeWizhisto: I went to "Passwords and Keys" but I couldn't find anything there. I can add a new password keyring. Is that what you meant?10:30
onboradI use ubuntu core install xorg and xterm ,chroot in rootfs ,start xorg by myself  lead display blackscreen , couldn't switch virtual terminal .and no error report  any one ideas?10:30
histoXtremeWiz: Hold on let me take a look...10:30
dagerikhisto: i have a regular magnetic disk10:31
dagerikhisto: this problem 'the disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present' occurred after a large dist-upgrade and reboot10:31
histodagerik: well does /tmp exist now that the system is up and running?10:32
dagerikhisto: let me check10:32
LIDHHello, anyone to help me to get Touch working on ubuntu 12.10?10:32
MonkeyDust!info touch10:33
ubottuPackage touch does not exist in quantal10:33
sonkey4wow really10:34
LIDHmy problem is i can't get the touchscreen device listed on USB or COM10:34
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histodagerik: and was there an issue witht he dist-upgrade ???10:34
histoMonkeyDust: isn't it synaptics10:34
XtremeWizhisto: When I right click on Login and "Change Password" it still asks me the old password for the 'Login' keyring10:34
histoXtremeWiz: yeah put the new one in10:35
histoXtremeWiz: that's it right click login10:35
MonkeyDusthisto  ?10:35
histoMonkeyDust: your !info touch10:35
F-GTanyone got any suggestions as to why I cant get ctrl + alt + f1-f6 working .. just a blank screen10:35
XtremeWizhisto: it says "the original password was incorrect"10:35
histo!info synaptics | MonkeyDust10:35
ubottuMonkeyDust: Package synaptics does not exist in quantal10:35
histoMonkeyDust: nvm10:35
histoXtremeWiz: are you using the new one you set in console?10:36
XtremeWizhisto: yes, that's the only password i know10:36
XtremeWizhisto: is that not what I should use?10:37
LIDHHello, anyone to help me to get Touch working on ubuntu 12.10?10:38
histoXtremeWiz: you can try deleting the keyring files from the /home/username/.gnome2 folder10:38
dagerikhisto: /tmp exists and has files.10:38
histoXtremeWiz: then reboot and login it should tell you to choose a new password for the keyring.10:38
dagerikhisto: dist-upgrade worked fine. but after reboot came this error10:39
histodagerik: did the upgrade have an issue or no errors?10:39
histodagerik: hrm..10:39
LIDHHello, anyone to help me to get Touch working on ubuntu 12.10?10:39
sonkey4LIDH, your spamming10:39
heroandtn3Hello, I have a question about Ubuntu: where ubuntu save windows partition info?10:40
dagerikhisto: this is from mount; "tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)"10:40
histodagerik: did you make a post on the forums?10:40
histodagerik: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107725  ?? is that yours?10:41
dagerikhisto: no10:41
fidelheroandtn3: could you try to rephrase your question?10:41
heroandtn3I have checked /etc/fstab but nothing about Windows partition in that file10:41
histodagerik: you may want to post there that you are experiencing the same issue10:41
dagerikhisto: if i skip mounting, the system runs, but it can be very slow.10:41
dagerike.g. it takes 10 seconds for the mount command to exit10:41
heroandtn3sorry, my English is not good. I'm Vietnamese10:42
histoheroandtn3: it doesn't save the info... What do you mean where does it mount it when you double click it?10:42
fidel!vt > heroandtn310:42
OnkeltemHow to know monitor model/maker?10:42
histoOnkeltem: look at the sticker on the back10:42
fidel!vn > heroandtn310:42
ubottuheroandtn3, please see my private message10:42
Ben64dagerik: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/fstab10:42
Onkeltemhisto: I have only ssh there10:42
histoBen64: he said it's a default install I found someone that just posted on the forums with the same issue.10:42
Ben64histo: but fstab holds the key10:43
dagerikhisto, Ben64; tabbing in bash hangs for 10 seconds. maybe this indicates something10:44
dagerikpasting fstab soon...10:44
histoOnkeltem: I don't know of a way10:44
west333fidel:  what you did is quite correct , you got a whole screen there in CLI mode,,  and   ctrl +alt + F7 gets you back to your  GUI settings10:45
heroandtn3fidel: thank you!10:45
Ben64dagerik: are you running off a flash drive or something slow like that?10:45
fidelwest333: i guess you want to talk with someone else - wrong nick-completion?10:45
fidelheroandtn3: good luck - i hope the vietnamese channel can help you. it was hard - at least for me - to understand your question ;)10:45
val_*hello world!*10:46
Tortax^^^ :)10:46
val_question : command(x) -> what is x ? and how to access ?10:46
Ben64val_: we need context for that10:46
histo!detail | val_10:46
histo!details | val_10:46
ubottuval_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:46
dagerikhisto, Ben64; /etc/fstab; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1565696/10:47
Onkeltemhisto: found, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EDID10:47
histoOnkeltem: ahh very clever10:47
histoOnkeltem: problem if they aren't running an X10:47
zetheroocopying large files to USB stick is very slow ... copying a 3GB file takes 20min ... why is this?10:47
Ben64dagerik: well thats weird... if i had to guess, i'd say your hard drive has problems, or the cable, or the motherboard, or a combination of those10:48
Onkeltemhisto: true, but there are talks about read-edid utilty, though I haven't tried it10:48
Ben64zetheroo: flash drives are almost always slow10:48
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histoOnkeltem: just out of curiosity why would you need to do that?10:49
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dagerikBen64: the drive is on /dev/sda at 320 GB. i think it's a regular magnetic disk10:49
zetherooBen64: not this slow ... the same file copying to the same USB stick on the same PC in the same USB port ... but in Windows ... is much faster10:49
zetherooBen64: this file copies in about 8 min in Windows10:50
Ben64zetheroo: is it ntfs?10:50
zetherooBen64: FAT10:50
riplyzetheroo, my ubuntu dtop also takes forever to copy to USB even if it's USB3..10:50
Ben64well then maybe your timing is off10:50
Ben64do a benchmark on both OS's to be sure about speeds10:50
zetherooriply: yes, I have had this issue for a long time now ... but never got around to trying to sort it out10:51
riplyzetheroo, try ext4 if you're only using it in ubuntu of ntfs if winblows too10:51
ikoniayour usb controller may have weaker support in linux than windows10:51
histoBen64: No same issue here with usb but i'm thinking its an issue with fat for some reason. I have yet to test it though with other FS types10:51
Ben64fat32 is just as fast as windows10:51
Onkeltemhisto: hehe, trivial: my mother liked my monitors and asked me to purchase the same for her. I've come to her but forgot to look at my models :)10:51
ikoniariply: it's called "windows" - if you want serious help, treat it respectfully10:51
Ben64ntfs is slow, especially when the partition gets more full10:51
riplyzetheroo, ye, it's annoying. In fact, to further increase the frustration, after it says that it's done - it is in fact not. If I try to safely remove it, it says that it's busy and I have to wait a while longer too.10:51
histoikonia: lol10:51
zetherooikonia: wow really?10:51
riplyikonia, seriously?10:52
zetherooriply: yes, I have had that happen too10:52
riplyikonia, I don't want help, I was just saying that I suffer a similar issue. I'm not phased by it.10:52
Onkeltemhisto: and have only ssh to my superb PC harverster with 3 monitors :)10:52
ikoniaif you can't use the proper names of software/tools - then don't bother discussing it10:52
histoI've experienced the same usb speed issue on multiple machines.10:52
histoThat's why I think its filesystem related or something else going on .10:53
Ben64maybe i'm just lucky then. I get ~40MB/s over usb2.0 to a fat32 partition10:53
ikoniaBen64: I don't think so, I get a similar experience as you10:53
riplyikonia, I don't like Windows. I don't like that they stole the OS. I don't like that they capitalised off of the world. I don't like that they 'innovate' by stealing. I will call the OS WinBLOWS if I like.10:53
histoBen64: Yeah I could never touch that.10:53
Ben64but it's not a flash drive, its a hdd with a usb adapter10:54
ikoniaBen64: similar here, but I do get a reasonable match to windows performance with usb stick's too10:54
histoBen64: riply I experience it alsow with usb enclosure or flash drive.  But like I say it's rare that I use them.10:54
Ben64trying an ntfs partition, speeds drop to ~20MB/s if I have my cpu on "performance"10:54
ikoniaBen64: but the overhead of fuse stick in then too10:54
ikoniaalthough that would be quite a large overhead10:55
histoI could do some testing now. Is there a way to calculate the rate of transfer in cli?10:55
ikonia(%50 drop)10:55
Ben64if only more things supported ext4 :(10:55
dr_willismost of my htpc media boxs support ext4. ;-)10:55
Ben64my raspberry pi does, my blu ray player and tv do not10:56
dr_willisi setup a dlna server on my pi. for my tv.10:56
LIDHHello, anyone to help me to get Touch working on ubuntu 12.10?11:02
AngryBirdhlw people i was downloading tha os x can anybdy tell me how to intall it?11:03
ThinkT510AngryBird: this isn't apple support11:03
MonkeyDustAngryBird  #macosx11:04
AngryBirdok guys :)11:06
histoBen64: Just did a test i get 41,948,173.33 bytes/sec to my external hdd on my server with fat3211:06
antonio_no one talks in the kdenlive channel11:06
ThinkT510antonio_: have you tried openshot?11:06
histoBen64: so nevermind must have been an issue with earlier kernels or someting11:06
antonio_Thinkt510: Yes I have...I need kdenlive11:06
histodr_willis: which dlna server did you use?11:06
histo!anyone | LIDH11:07
ubottuLIDH: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.11:07
histo!details > LIDH11:08
ubottuLIDH, please see my private message11:08
LIDHI have Ubuntu 12.1011:09
LIDHand a POS EBN X-950 with touch, and i can't get the touch hardware listed anywhere11:09
LIDHdid dmesg | grep "USB"11:09
zimbowhen i look at installing eclipse via apt i see that it wants to install the open java sdk11:09
zimboand an old version at that11:09
zimbohow can i chanage that?11:10
BWMerlinwhen do new nvidia graphics drivers make it into the ubuntu repositories?11:10
LIDHand nothing, also did screen /dev/ttyS[0-5]11:10
LIDHnothing seems to detect the touchscreen device11:12
AngryBirdhlw guys plz tell me how to cnect #macosx this netwrk is not shown by nerwrk list11:13
histoLIDH: lsusb  ?11:13
histoLIDH: or lspci11:13
LIDHnothing, even went to a database for the hardware id's and nothing11:14
LIDHonly detected they keyboard mouse and interface11:14
Jojo_hello, how to change permission of file? the settings are locked and it says "your nor th owner"11:15
Jojo_hello, how to change permission of file? the settings are locked and it says "your not the owner"11:15
MonkeyDustAngryBird  start here http://stephenpickering.com/2009/10/01/how-to-network-a-mac-to-ubuntu-easily/11:15
Jojo_hello, how to change permission of file? the settings are locked and it says "your not the owner"11:16
huttanJojo_: man chmod11:16
huttanJojo_: man chown11:16
ThinkT510!alis | AngryBird11:16
ubottuAngryBird: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*11:16
Jojo_and then?11:16
huttanJojo_: read the help?? remember you will need to use sudo11:17
Jojo_huttan: can you walk me through on it please ?11:18
huttanJojo_: to change the owner of a file u do: sudo chown user file11:18
ThinkT510Jojo_: what file is it?11:18
Jojo_the var/www/index.php file...can't edit the content11:19
huttanJojo_: To change permissions of a file you do: chmod permission file11:19
Jojo_huttan: like "sudo chmod permission file" ?11:20
huttanJojo_: yeah but if ur workin in that folder u prolly wanna do it recursive11:20
histoJojo_: There are several ways. You could chmod the file. or chown the file changing the owner or create a group that you are a member of and give that group permissions to the file.11:20
Jojo_huttan: ok will do, thanks.. i'll post again :)11:21
histoJojo_: yeah chmod can use octal or you can use u=user g=group o=world   r=read w=write x=execute so chmod o+w   would allow the world to write to it.11:21
AngryBirdok guysthanx 4 give me yr expensive time :)11:22
histonot the safest route11:22
Jojo_huttan: can you put it like a command please..11:23
huttanJojo_: sudo chown jojo /var/www/index.php11:23
huttanassuming ur user is named: jojo11:23
Jojo_huttan: thanks..begginner <<<< :)11:24
histo!manual | Jojo_11:24
ubottuJojo_: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:24
MonkeyDustJojo_  is that ubuntu server?11:25
histoThey really need an html version of that manual11:25
antonio_does anyone in here use kdenlive?11:27
antonio_hey apos:11:28
MonkeyDustantonio_  try #kdenlive or maybe #ubuntu-studio11:28
histoantonio_: i've tried it once11:28
Jojo_huttan: hi, theres an error with the getedit program..cant save file because cant save a copy of backup etc...11:29
Jojo_huttan: yup, ubuntu server LTS11:30
Jojo_huttan: yup, ubuntu server precise LTS11:30
greenmang0Hello Friends, where can I find old Maverick repos? would they be functional?11:32
MonkeyDustgreenmang0  no11:32
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades11:32
Jojo_are you there?11:32
dr_willisthe old repos get moved to an archive server11:32
greenmang0MonkeyDust: what if I don't want security updates and support? I just want to install few packages11:32
LIDHso i tried every command to list hardware and still can't get my touchscreen device listed. any advices?11:33
Jojo_anybody know how to troubleshoot the getedit app??? cant save i file and says it cant save a copy of backup etc...11:33
greenmang0dr_willis: ok, so is it possible to use those archive server urls in sources.list?11:33
dagerikBen64, histo: my problem with /tmp drive errors were resolved after coming back to lunch. After 30 mins the system is not slow anymore.11:33
Jojo_anybody know how to troubleshoot the getedit app??? cant save a file and says it cant save a copy of backup etc...11:33
XtremeWizJojo_: or gedit?11:34
histoJojo_: save the file to a different name. because you probably are trying to save to a file you don't have permisions to.11:34
Jojo_yes sir11:34
Jojo_i have permission sir11:35
MonkeyDustJojo_  is there a reason you installed ubuntu-server?11:35
muszekhi... quick question. ext4 or btrfs on my new computer? (ssd, separate partition for /home)11:37
ThinkT510muszek: ext411:37
ThinkT510muszek: btrfs isn't stable yet11:37
muszekThinkT510: thank you11:37
histoJojo_: try saving to different name are you getting an error11:38
muszekdoes /home encryption work fine?  I've never done it before...11:38
histomuszek: I second ext411:38
histomuszek: yes but with a penalty11:38
greenmang0dr_willis: thanks!11:39
muszekhisto: is it a big penalty?  I'm using intel 330 ssd and core i5 ivy bridge11:39
dannylately when i restart or boot up ubuntu it hangs on my wallpaper for quite a wile before my de loads ups ive never had this problem before even when unity wasnt so good im wondering if there is a way i can find out why it takes so long and whats going on with my slugish startup11:40
muszekshould I make the swap partition on ssd, or regular hdd?11:41
histomuszek: regular hdd or none at all11:41
histomuszek: you may want to google tips for using an ssd with linux to prolong its life11:42
muszekhisto: ok.  when using no swap, should I do something (like reduce swappiness)?11:43
histomuszek: http://www.howtogeek.com/62761/how-to-tweak-your-ssd-in-ubuntu-for-better-performance/11:43
muszekhisto: thank you11:44
cristian_cAn other question:11:44
cristian_cHow can I launch the Find window in Chromium from terminal?11:45
cristian_cAny ideas?11:45
ThinkT510cristian_c: whats wrong with ctrl+f11:45
cristian_cThinkT510, it opens xterm11:46
histocristian_c: F311:47
histocristian_c: or install vimium plugin and use /11:48
cristian_chisto, it works11:48
cristian_chisto, vimium?11:48
histocristian_c: vimium is a plugin that gives you vim key bindings in chrome  / is find11:48
cristian_cah, ok, I understand11:49
histo!pm > Jojo_11:49
ubottuJojo_, please see my private message11:49
histoJojo_: I sent you the trigger just FYI11:49
adamkAny idea why my mouse often gets stuck when moving from one monitor to another in unity? I usually have to move the mouse to the very top of the screen in order to keep it moving.11:52
Jojo_can someone tell me about the rules and regulation about the channel, thanks!11:52
ThinkT510!guidelines | Jojo_11:52
ubottuJojo_: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines11:52
histo!who | Jojo_11:54
ubottuJojo_: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)11:54
histoJojo_: ^^ see11:54
Jojo_histo, i see!11:56
Jojo_!who | histo11:56
ubottuhisto: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)11:56
Jojo_histo: ok this is amusing :)11:57
Annette01Hello! Has anybody here had any luck with running league of legends in linux?11:58
histo!appdb > Annette0111:59
ubottuAnnette01, please see my private message11:59
Annette01Im...not sure how to see this pirvate messege.12:00
ThinkT510Annette01: depends on you client, in xchat its to the left12:00
Annette01Im using the default ubuntu chat client right now.12:00
histo!appdb | Annette0112:01
ubottuAnnette01: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help12:01
ThinkT510!screenshot | Annette0112:01
ubottuAnnette01: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.12:01
Annette01Ah, i do know what wine is. The issue im having is the client launches fine, but when the game loads it throws a "direct x error" something about shaders 2.012:01
Annette01Ill SS the issue though, give me a moment12:02
ThinkT510Annette01: then join #winehq12:02
Annette01Okay. Thank you :)12:02
famax8iuhiug ilawf12:05
famax8is this teh help forum12:06
famax8or the off topic?12:06
XtremeWizfamax8: You're on the Official Ubuntu Support Channel. :)12:07
famax8i can ask u specific question reagrding install?12:07
XtremeWizfamax8: yes12:07
famax8even ubuntu studio?12:08
XtremeWizNot sure, but you may try.12:08
famax8well is more of an install issue12:08
cfhowlettfamax8, ask.  please.  just ask12:08
XtremeWiz!ask | famax812:08
ubottufamax8: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:08
famax8yesterday i installed studio 12.1012:08
cfhowlettfamax8, preferably with details12:08
famax8ok ok12:09
famax8lets see, i have a preinstalled win 7 ultimate - and yesterday i installed in dual boot ubuntu studio 12.10, it ran smoothly but when i restarted no way to see the OS nor to boot on it fron the hard drive - is a desktop and it has a specific hard drive for linux and i would like to safely install it without having to use the windows cd because is no cd actaully and i do no have the hardware to burn the one provided with one of my mac12:11
MonkeyDustfamax8  tip: there's also #ubuntustudio, but it's not as busy as this channel12:11
famax8as such12:11
famax8oh is it one specific for studio?12:11
cfhowlettfamax8, no cd?  make a USB12:12
famax8i dont mind busy or not i mind a good tutorial and so on ^^ becasue this is my issue, no godo tutorial and i polished my retian online!!12:12
famax8nope no cd and no burner..? :/ yeah well free hardware alrite :)12:12
cfhowlettfamax8, you can boot from USB12:12
famax8so, shall reinstall but via windows or by booting my usb stick? which option shall i choose to be sure a dual boot is created?12:13
famax8for linux yes but for windows no so i can not repair if needed12:13
cfhowlettfamax8, wait, you used the windows installer?  wubi?12:13
histo!grub2 | famax812:13
ubottufamax8: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)12:13
famax8no the first isntall yesterday was via booting on usb stick sorry i forgot to mention12:14
histofamax8: and now you cant' see ubuntu or can't see windows?12:14
famax8windows was fine couldnt see ubuntu12:14
* val_ coucou12:14
histofamax8:follow the link from ubottu for fixing grub12:14
val_ca va ?12:14
famax8and thus even if windows startup is destroyed it will fix it?12:15
cfhowlettfamax8, ubuntu rewrites the master boot record.  Not sure exactly how this works on UEFI ... to fix windows you need to boot the windows disk and repair.12:15
histofamax8: why is windows startup destroyed now?12:16
histofamax8: do you have a system that uses uefi?12:16
histo!uefi | famax812:16
ubottufamax8: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI12:16
famax8is not destroyed... yet... -__-12:16
famax8but i prefer be safe than sorry as i dont have windows cd12:17
histofamax8: I'm so confused can you restate your question with more clarity12:17
famax8and uefi??12:17
famax8u mean the "dos"?12:17
histo!details | famax812:17
ubottufamax8: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:17
famax8i know mac's efi but Uefi12:17
famax8lets make it simple12:17
histofamax8: Yeah because it didn't make any sense the first time12:17
histo!enter | famax812:18
ubottufamax8: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:18
MonkeyDustfamax8  guess you better start again, from the beginning, nobody's following anymore12:18
varun_Hello everyone . Anyway to install emacs 24 on ubuntu lucid12:20
famax8lets sjut say, i want to do a dual boot ubuntu studio 12.10 on a preinstalled windows 7 ultimate that has no cd to rescue - desktop with 1 hard drive for win one for ubuntu - forget the rest :)12:20
MonkeyDustfamax8  so a plain dual boot?12:21
cfhowlettfamax8, install virtualbox into windows, put US in the vbox12:21
histocfhowlett: that's not dual booting12:21
famax8but that wont gimme full access12:21
histofamax8: then you put the ubuntu install cd in  and install12:22
MonkeyDust!dualboot | famax812:22
ubottufamax8: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:22
cfhowletthisto, true, but given the issues, he's raised, it puts his system at minimal risk12:22
famax8well ok i tried ot install via windows yesterday but couldnt see the US at restart and i wasnt even given the option12:23
famax8i followed a tutorial i found here (thas how i found the chat)12:23
histofamax8: because grub didn't get installed properly12:23
famax8ah no different machien sorry12:23
varun__hello everyone. How do I install an emacs 64 in the ubuntu lucid12:24
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famax8sorry no no sorry wrong info here ^^12:24
cfhowlettfamax8, and this is on a mac?12:24
MonkeyDustvarun__  sudo apt-get install emacs12:24
famax8nope never!12:25
varun__MonkeyDust: I already have that and have done that. I have emacs versoin 23 and need 2412:25
varun__how to ??12:25
varun__do that ?12:25
c00keesamba is freaking me out , it is neccessary to use the terminal when configuring samba12:25
c00keeon ubuntu12:25
adamkvarun__: apt-get install emacs2412:25
varun__but dont I have to add repos. I am on lucid lynx onlly :)12:26
famax8cfhowlett: is on a pc desktop12:26
cfhowlettfamax8, got it.12:26
MonkeyDustvarun__  if it's not in the repos, you need a PPA or so, but that's not supported, use it at your own risk12:27
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs, ed - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code12:27
OerHeks!info emacs12:27
ubottuemacs (source: emacs-defaults): GNU Emacs editor (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 45.0 (quantal), package size 1 kB, installed size 25 kB12:27
OerHeksversion 4512:27
cfhowlettfamax8, I dual boot win7 and US.  I'd say boot the ubuntu CD and you'll probably find that your ubuntu files did indeed install.  If so, reinstall grub and you should be flying.12:27
histoWhat is emacs 6412:27
moritz_89Hey Guys. Want to help me with online voting? sry for asking here but im ubuntu user, so know this channel and u r 1700 peaople in here ^^12:28
Ben64moritz_89: no12:28
MonkeyDust!poll | moritz_8912:28
ubottumoritz_89: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:28
OerHeksmoritz_89, no voting/polling here please12:28
histoc00kee: no I think there is a samba gui now12:28
ubottumoritz_89,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:28
Ben64pretty sure thats against the guidelines12:28
moritz_89ok so do like never asked xD12:28
famax8cfhowlett: so via usb is fine too? what if it fail to install the grub well again?12:28
histoc00kee: you can even administer it via the web with swat12:29
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histofamax8: Does this computer have a recovery partition?12:29
Ben64moritz_89: not a problem, but if we start letting one person, then 1800 people will be here doing it :)12:29
famax8not at all12:29
cfhowlettfamax8, so far as ubuntu is concerned, there's no difference between booting cd or usb.  If grub fails again, we have to problem solve it's failing.12:29
histofamax8: who made it?12:29
moritz_89Ben64: thats true ^^12:30
famax8histo : made the machine?12:30
histofamax8: Who is the manufacturer/builder of the computer does it have a make/model???12:31
histo!samba | c00kee12:31
ubottuc00kee: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.12:31
famax8histo: not at all is full of different parts form here and there12:31
histofamax8: Okay then why do you not have a windows cd?12:31
famax8has been given without -__-12:31
famax8and no burner to burn a new one12:32
histoc00kee: there are other guis to. I'm sure you can find one if you search the software center for samba12:32
histofamax8: well at the very least backup your data. You could also use something like clonezilla to backup your current partition to some external storage.12:33
cfhowlettfamax8, do you have the windows 25 digit verification code on that machine?  you can DL a legal win iso, from ****soft12:33
famax8i was thinking of this actually just now clonezilla will do an image and i can reinstall then12:33
famax8but i cant burn it!!!12:33
c00keeright, and i did configure it using with gui, but most tutorials direct me to opening the terminal and modifying /etc/samba/smb.conf12:33
famax8i have the program already but no way to burn a cd12:33
MonkeyDustfamax8  sounds like a limited custom-built pc12:34
famax8anyway it wont ruin my windows just the guerub right?12:34
cfhowlettfamax8, windows has a usb boot creator as well.  look it up.12:34
famax8monkeydust: hahaha yes this is a nice way to put it12:34
famax8needs at least 8gb usb stick for windows12:35
cfhowlettfamax8, won't touch windows unless you tell it too.  partition carefully.12:35
famax8i got 4gb12:35
famax8no need for partition is a separate hard drive dedicated to it only12:35
dr_willisyou do mean 2 real hard drives.. not one drive with differnt 'letters/partions' ;)12:36
dr_willisif so.. be sure you are booting the HD that has grub on it.12:36
famax8yes to physical hard drives12:37
famax8would that be the problem then? that i dont see US once i reboot after install as it happened yesterday?12:37
cfhowlettfamax8, make sure you install grub to the right spot.12:37
famax8the HD with US right?12:37
cfhowlettfamax8, not necessarily.  consult your tutorial.  grub can be installed anywhere12:38
histofamax8: clonezilla to another hdd12:38
famax8and what would you recommend then?12:38
gnarulaHi! I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu on my Macbook 2,1 and have run into boot issues with grub. Here's a log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1565899/12:39
ThinkT510famax8: try changing the boot order in bios for your harddrives to see if you did install grub to the other drive12:39
gnarulaWhen trying to boot into ubuntu,  I get an error saying "error: file not found" and the grub rescue prompt12:39
doomlordubuntu for android - how compromised is it/isnt it; does it replace android completely or 'fill in the gnu/linux blanks' around the android core12:40
ThinkT510!phone | doomlord12:41
ubottudoomlord: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone12:41
histognarula: why is grub installed to /dev/sda4?12:41
famax8linux for phones?12:41
doomlordlooks  awesome to me12:41
gnarulahisto: that's the partition for ubuntu… Should I install it somewhere else?12:42
arcskyhello its empty in syslog and messages how do i start or check if that processes running?12:42
histognarula: no it's right nvm12:42
famax8ok off to try again i'll keep you posted if u care ^^12:43
cfhowletthisto, note: installing to a mac12:43
histocfhowlett: oh12:43
histocfhowlett: what's the deal with sda1 on the mac then12:43
histo!dualboot | gnarula12:43
ubottugnarula: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:43
gnarulahisto: sda1 is the EFI partition afaik12:43
cfhowletthisto, never done it ... but there are many tutorials on the matter.  It's not so straight forward as installing on a windows machine.12:44
histognarula: Yeah I'd hve to refer you to the documentation provided by ubottu12:45
dwarderis there a something like ssmtp (which uses your email account i.e. google to send emails from php, somekind of sendmail) but won't send this emails and store them on local box for reading i.e. block all emails from leaving the box12:46
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histodwarder: is ther a problem with ssmtp?12:47
VlanXHey, how can i add a network remote folder on my desktop with 12.10 ?12:48
ThinkT510!nfs | VlanX12:48
ubottuVlanX: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.12:48
histodwarder: Oh you don't want to send email out you just want local mail?12:48
dwarderhisto: i want email to be stored localy for my reading but for php app it must be as if it sends an email12:49
histodwarder: install sendmail12:50
histodwarder: and email dwarder@localhost12:50
raddy_Is there a supported method to install ubuntu 12 without burning media./12:51
ThinkT510!usb | raddy_12:52
ubotturaddy_: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent12:52
histodwarder: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-57664.html  here's another link12:52
raddy_i have ubuntu iso in my hard drice12:52
dwarderhisto: thanks12:53
raddy_wubi method is very slow12:53
cfhowlettraddy_, if you've got the iso, use unetbootin to make a bootable USB12:53
ThinkT510raddy_: avoid wubi12:53
raddy_I don't want to use usb drive or cd / dvdr12:54
MonkeyDustThinkT510  don't even mention the name12:54
ThinkT510raddy_: then use a usb12:54
ThinkT510raddy_: oops sorry12:54
cfhowlettraddy_, wubi should be your LAST resort.  DEAD last.12:54
ThinkT510!pxe | raddy_12:54
ThinkT510raddy_: you can install via network12:55
Ben64its much harder to set up than usb12:55
cfhowlettraddy_, no usb? no CD?  ok; install virtual box in windows, install ubuntu to virtualbox12:55
histodwarder: http://www.cmsimike.com/blog/2011/10/30/setting-up-local-mail-delivery-on-ubuntu-with-postfix-and-mutt/  Here's a way with postfix12:56
Ben64!netboot | raddy_ , cfhowlett12:56
ubotturaddy_ , cfhowlett: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate12:56
cfhowlettBen64, ty12:57
gnarulahisto: at the rescue prompt, executing "ls (hd0,gpt4) gives an error "bad filename"12:59
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html - See also !cloning12:59
yak_kingoh cool... can do all the work to set it up only once... then "clone" to laptop?! !cloning13:00
yak_king!cloning yaj_king13:00
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause problems with multiarch before 12.10) - See also !automate13:00
erupterhi guys, I have a problem with a file's permission. it's a usb tty and it gets reset on reboot. I need it to stick. How can I do that?13:00
histoerupter: what?13:01
histo!botabuse > yak_king13:01
ubottuyak_king, please see my private message13:01
erupterhisto, sudo chmod a+rw /dev/ttyACM013:01
erupterit doesn't stick on reboot13:01
dr_willisHmm.. i imagine it would reset if you unplyg/replug back in the device also erupter13:02
histoerupter: You are trying to change permisions on a device you relize that right13:02
erupterhisto absolutely13:02
dr_williserupter:  the proper way may be a udev rule (i think) if you want to tweak it.  q why do you need to set the permissions on it?13:02
yak_kinghot it histo.... thanks sorry... I reallly WAS looking for info LOL but didn't think about the bot being able to do it in pvm... sorry... and thanks : ()13:02
erupterdr_willis, because I need user programs to access it13:03
dr_williserupter:  a dirty work around would be put the command in /etc/rc.local13:03
histoerupter: okay well you'd have to write a udev rule that sets the permisions properly13:03
dr_willisudev rule would be the proper way. ;)13:03
yak_kinghot it=got it......13:03
histoerupter: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html13:03
yak_king<------ =  moron who can't type : )13:03
erupterhisto, dr_willis ok thank you13:03
histoerupter: may I ask why you are doing this btw?13:04
erupterhisto, are you familiar with ROS?13:04
histoerupter: no13:04
ThinkT510erupter: real time operating systems?13:05
histoerupter: robot operating system?13:05
erupterhisto, ok. there is a program that uses a certain library to broadcast laser scans. it has to be able to access the laser, which has a usb/tty connection13:05
erupterhisto, yes13:05
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erupterThinkT510, no13:05
anonymous9999999yes ROS is awesome13:05
anonymous9999999what laser scanner are you using?13:05
* PatrickDickey was going for Really Old Software...13:06
histoerupter: okay well why doyou need to give everyone read write?13:06
erupterhisto, it can't access the tty in user space unless I either change the permissions or sudo it, since I can't always sudo it (remote launch) I have to change permissions13:06
histoerupter: what is "it"13:06
erupterhisto, I don't know, just following the tutorial on the program. it says you have to chmod a+rw13:07
yak_kinghowdy txp : )13:07
PatrickDickeyhello txp13:07
histoerupter: do you have a link for the tut?13:07
erupteranonymous9999999, urg0413:07
erupterhisto: http://www.ros.org/wiki/hokuyo_node/Tutorials/UsingTheHokuyoNode13:07
histoerupter: I'm sure if you give "it" permisions properly using sudo it would work.13:07
histoerupter: hint visudo13:07
erupterhisto, I don't want to13:08
erupterhisto, moreover I will be mostly running the process remotely from automated ssh scripts13:08
PatrickDickeyerupter if there's a group that already has the proper permissions (besides root), you could always add the user to that.13:08
PatrickDickeyIsn't there an option in user permissions, for accessing USB or TTY devices?13:09
erupterPatrickDickey, I could create such a group, but given the fact that devices are (as far as I know) by default accessible only by root, how can I create a group that by default has access to devices?13:09
Ben64erupter: in the example on that site, "dialout" group has access to it13:10
PatrickDickeyerupter: which version of ubuntu are you on?13:10
PatrickDickeyhi g-hennux13:12
erupterif I do ls -la /dev/ttyA* I get dialout too13:12
erupterbut I don't know what's that...13:12
g-hennuxi want to have my firewall script run on system startup, but after libvirt has started. can i safely run it from /etc/rc.local or is this executed before the init.d/* scripts are started?13:12
PatrickDickeyerupter: it's a group that has permission to access modems. I would guess at least.13:12
PatrickDickeyg-hennux: Can it run after you log in? If so, you can add it to startup applications.13:13
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g-hennuxPatrickDickey: this is a server, i don't usually log in after reboot13:15
Ben64!upstart | g-hennux13:16
ubottug-hennux: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/13:16
arunkumar413there are two audio devices on my laptop, how do i enable the amd idt audio device13:16
anonymous9999999erupter-i missed the beginning of this questioning but why aren't you just setting the permissions using udev?13:17
PatrickDickeyerupter: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Privileges Look at "use modem" for an answer to what dialout does. Then you can search for adding user to a group.13:17
erupteranonymous9999999, because I don't know how :)13:17
opalepatrickI know you all love unity... how can I see what lens are installed?13:17
erupterPatrickDickey, that's what I've been doing the latest 10 mins :p13:17
fidelopalepatrick: i guess there are several ways - one might be using dpkg -l and grep that for lens13:18
PatrickDickeyerupter: and did you find the information?13:18
DJJeffwhat is the gphoto2 filesystem and how can I get it work with ubuntu 12.1013:18
erupterPatrickDickey, about adding a user to a group, sure. easy enough13:18
fidelopalepatrick: as in: dpkg -l | grep lens13:18
anonymous9999999erupter, you don't know how?  Aren't you using udev for your motors?  It works much better to be able to address them as /dev/left_wheel and /dev/right_wheel then /dev/ttyUSB :)13:18
opalepatrickthanks fidel appreciated13:19
MonkeyDust!info gphoto2| DJJeff13:19
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MonkeyDust!info gphoto2 | DJJeff13:19
ubottuDJJeff: gphoto2 (source: gphoto2): The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.14-1 (quantal), package size 249 kB, installed size 1030 kB13:19
erupteranonymous9999999, never used udev and besided my motors are connected to a low-level controller that communicates over serial13:19
fidelopalepatrick: np. another way would be using synaptic and filter the installed packages there13:19
PatrickDickeyerupter: then if you know that the dialout group has access to the tty, why not add your user to that group?13:19
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opalepatrickactually that worked fine fidel13:19
fideli know ;)13:19
MonkeyDustDJJeff  why do you wb13:20
MonkeyDustDJJeff  why do you want it, if you don't know what it is?13:20
erupterPatrickDickey, no that wasn't what I meant: I dind't realize there was a usergroup with access to the device until histo pointed that out to me, after that it was simple adding my user to that group.13:20
anonymous9999999erupter, you should read http://linux.die.net/man/8/udev  read the section on sample udev.permissions13:20
erupteranonymous9999999, am already, still I don't really need that at the moment13:20
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anonymous9999999erupter, what's your robot do?  mapping?13:21
PatrickDickeyerupter: Gottcha. If adding yourself to the dialout group takes care of the chmod a+rw thing, I wouldn't worry about a udev rule. Unless you need something else specfied.13:21
* PatrickDickey just my .02 worth, which is worth about.000002 actually13:22
arunkumar413there are two audio devices on my laptop, how do i enable the amd idt audio device13:22
erupteranonymous9999999, at the moment pretty nothing. I'm implementing ros, so I'm still in the early stages. Previous existing platform (all custom) was used for testing swarm algorithms13:22
yak_kinglol Patrick13:22
erupterPatrickDickey, thanks, that's my reasoning13:22
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: Right click on the volume control and choose "Sound Settings" and if it's listed in there, select it for your output device.13:23
Guest93604arunkumar413: first is your device supported? and are you using pulseaudio or alsa?13:23
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: no, its not listed13:23
arunkumar413Guest93604: don't know there is no sound icon in the panel13:23
anonymous9999999erupter, udev's not really very hard to figure out...i would recommend it so you can address your devices more conveniently.  it's also helpful in case your devices  change...i.e if your laser becomes /dev/ttyACM1 you can change a line in udev instead of having to rewrite your code....just my .02 from having worked on it before :)13:24
anonymous9999999arunkumar413, run alsamixer from terminal13:24
erupteranonymous9999999, thanks, I'll keep it in mind should I need that. although for these things ROS is wonderful: everything is parametric. I can even change the laser on-the-fly :)13:25
erupterand remotely to boot :D13:25
Guest93604arunkumar413: would this give you some help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112835113:25
stroodlepuphelp :) i'm having problems with my adobe flashplayer13:26
anonymous9999999erupter, cool, did you write the motor control code yourself or are you using a ros module?13:26
PatrickDickeystroodlepup: what problems are you having?13:26
arunkumar413anonymous9999999: there is no reft, right, centre channel13:26
stroodlepupvideo has yellow 'blotches' in it13:27
stroodlepupand it's not the video's fault13:27
cfhowlettstroodlepup, lot of that going around13:27
stroodlepupis that another adobe update by youtube?13:28
erupteranonymous9999999, myself13:28
stroodlepupi have the latest falsh player13:28
Hanmacjust a little question why there is amd64 and i386 as architectures for the packages but not mingw32/mingw64 ... wouldnt it be possible and nice to have this packages too? ... or maybe exist an easy way to build them?13:28
PatrickDickeySounds like adobe has 'flashpox'.13:28
stroodlepupsomething like that patrick13:28
anonymous9999999erupter, what motor controller are you using?13:28
erupteranonymous9999999, ages ago... could really use a rework, but I can't even begin to put my mind to it...13:28
yak_kinglol patrick13:28
PatrickDickeyHanmac: I'd venture that it's because you only deal with either i386 or amd64 regardless of whether it's ming or not.13:29
stroodlepupit kinda looks like static....13:29
yak_kinghowdy Corey13:29
MonkeyDustHanmac  maybe because not enough people have ever heard about ming13:29
erupteranonymous9999999, custom developed: it's a PIC18 controlling some allegro drivers with 2 stepper motors, the robot is a small indoor tailored to being the most economic13:29
anonymous9999999erupter, cool.  how far along are you with ros?  Have you gotten to learn about transforms yet?  Those killed me13:30
CoreyBRyak_king, i'm good and u? :)13:30
PatrickDickeyming is supposed to help you run a linux environment in Windows right? (Or simulate one at least)13:30
anonymous9999999PatrickDickey, are you thinking of cygwin?13:30
PatrickDickeyanonymous9999999: I thought they were both birds of the same feather. ;)13:31
yak_kingerupter, anonymous9999999 You guys are obviously seasoned hobbyist so I hate to bug you with the basics but don't see the topic on robotics very often. One quick startup question, if I may?13:31
MonkeyDustanonymous9999999  you should address Hanmac13:31
yak_kingoustanding Corey, thankyou!13:31
cfhowlettstroodlepup, are you on chrome?13:31
anonymous9999999MonkeyDust, what's that?13:31
erupteranonymous9999999, luckily I have the background (EE+CS) still how does my knowledge convert to ROS escapes me13:31
erupteryak_king, go fire away13:31
PatrickDickeyMonkeyDust: I think anonymous9999999 was answering my question about what ming does.13:31
Piciyak_king, erupter, anonymous9999999: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support, can I ask you to move the off-topic conversation to somewhere else? Perhaps it would be more interesting to the folks in ##electronics ?13:31
erupterPici sure13:32
yak_kingWhat would you guys recommend for a good way to start learning about microcontrollers? I have barely started with breadboarding and enjoying it but looks like micr controllers are the next obvious step but don't really know where to start with them... such as a kit of something13:32
erupterubuntu question: how can I automate connecting to a WEP encripted wlan? without unity that is13:32
ThinkT510!wep | erupter13:32
ubottuerupter: WEP is totally insecure, don't use it, the full Wireless Documentation for Ubuntu can be found at:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs13:32
yak_kingoh cool Pici... thanks. I'lll quit after that last question... typed it before reading your comment... sorry. Sounds like a fun room to check out. Thankyou13:32
arunkumar413anonymous9999999: its not showing, it's taking the default device13:32
arunkumar413anonymous9999999: in windows its detecing the amd idt13:33
CoreyBRDo you guys think Aaron Swartz was assassinated or he commited suicide?13:33
ThinkT510!ot | CoreyBR13:33
ubottuCoreyBR: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:33
HanmacCoreyBR i think its not an good idea to think about that13:33
NoobuntuGuys, I have been using a Ubuntu for a while and have a question that has been bothering me for some time. If you install software in for example 12.10 and that software has a config file in /ETC/APP/APP.CONF. Now when you make some changes in the conf file, what happens if you do a dist upgrade to 13.04? will the conf file be overwritten and your changes lost?13:34
HanmacPatrickDickey & MonkeyDusk & anonymous9999999 : i am building ruby gems as C(++) extension and at some functions i dont know if they work on windows too, that why i want to build some test space, but i dont want to install an Windows VM if possible13:34
arunkumar413anonymous9999999: in windows the sound is crisp, loud and surround sound is there but where as in windows its like normal audio, no surround sound. i have dolby advanced audio on the laptop13:34
CoreyBRHanmac, why?13:34
cfhowlettNoobuntu, assume that a dist upgrade will overwrite previous configs13:34
CoreyBRis it forbidden to speak about things like these here? :s13:35
arunkumar413anonymous9999999: in windows the sound is crisp, loud and surround sound is there but where as in UBUNTU its like normal audio, no surround sound. i have dolby advanced audio on the laptop13:35
CoreyBRif so, i'm sorry lol i didnt know that13:35
cfhowlettCorey, its off topic.  use the offtopic channel for such, please.13:35
anonymous9999999yak_king, i learned on this book: http://www.amazon.com/Microcontroller-Theory-Applications-HC12-S12/dp/0136152058/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359034519&sr=1-4&keywords=hcs12+microcontroller13:35
CoreyBRoh god, i tough i was on offtopic, sorry.13:35
PatrickDickeyCoreyBR: I think he was being a bit sarcastic, but I could be wrong. And the question does belong in offtopic, unless it has to do with ubuntu.13:35
Noobuntucfhowlett, Thanks! And what if the app used a file that suddenly is no longer needed in the new version? Will they remain as useless files on your OS or will they be removed?13:36
PatrickDickeyLOL been there done that CoreyBR.13:36
Guest93604arunkumar413: did u read that link i sent you?13:36
CoreyBRPatrickDickey, HAHAHA i'm using a new irc client i'm kinda lost yet13:36
cfhowlettNoobuntu, if you format your /filesystem, obviously they'll go away.  If you install without formatting, I'd imagine they'll remain as orphaned files.13:37
PatrickDickeyCoreyBR: which one?13:37
RollinV2Corey, irssi or burst13:37
stroodlepupthe garbled display in flash is annoying13:37
CoreyBRPatrickDickey, now i'm in XCHAT, i was in IRSSI and Finch13:37
CoreyBRboth in terminal13:37
arunkumar413Guest93604: i didn't understand it13:37
Noobuntucfhowlett, Is it bad practice then to do a dist-upgrade? and on a new ubuntu release (Every 6 months) one should always do a clean install?13:37
PatrickDickeycfhowlett: and Noobuntu, if the configs are there, doesn't the upgrade ask you what you want to do with them? I know for samba and a few others, it does.13:37
HanmacNoobuntu: on a normal upgrade it does ask you what version you want (or trys to merge the changes) i dont know if this happends on dist upgrade too13:37
cfhowlettstroodlepup, seems to be a chrome/html5 issue.  bug has been filed.13:38
ThinkT510!dist-upgrade | Noobuntu13:38
ubottuNoobuntu: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.13:38
yak_kingthankyou so much anonymous9999999, checking it out now! my appologies to you and the room to steer you off topic. That'13:38
PiciHanmac, Noobuntu: a dist-upgrade is NOT a release upgrade.13:38
Guest93604arunkumar413: there might be some deep file editing you might have to do in order to get it to work. Or you can just try to install pulseaudio, and it might detect it13:38
NoobuntuOk Everyone, Sorry for the confusion. I did mean an OS upgrade.13:38
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cfhowlettNoobuntu, y u no use LTS?  seriously, unless you NEED the bleeding edge, I'd urge you to consider just riding the LTS version.  Fewer headaches, more stability, longer support ...13:39
HanmacPici i know i mean that apt-get command13:39
Guest93604arunkumar413:  as for an example..i have a set of small usb speakers....alsa didn't detect them automaticly..i had to edit alsa.conf...but pulse audio found em right away13:39
cfhowlettPatrickDickey, honestly I don't recall ever seeing the question, but then I only clean install my dist-upgrades13:39
arunkumar413Guest93604: what is the diff between alsa and pulse13:40
PatrickDickeycfhowlett: I've had it with a few configurations. Typically I just let it overwrite them, and then I fix them if needed. It should give the option of seeing a diff between the versions.13:40
cfhowlettPatrickDickey, in the interest of clarity, I referred to release-upgrades ...13:40
arunkumar413Guest93604: are they drivers13:40
Guest93604arunkumar413: they both do the same thing "bring sound to your speakers" one just has better support13:40
PatrickDickeycfhowlett: I knew what you meant. ;)13:40
stroodlepuphowlett, I'll post a screenshot...13:40
cfhowlettstroodlepup,  see the following   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/chrome-flickering-videos-on-youtube-4175445575/13:41
Guest93604arunkumar413: as for an example...pulseaudio seems to work better for using bluetooth headphones13:41
arunkumar413Guest93604: then what is dolby and amd IDT13:41
Noobuntucfhowlett, I guess I just have a soft spot for new features :). So if I would always want the latest release,  the cleanest way is to do a clean install every time? As an upgrade would leave orphaned files?13:41
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: Dolby is a type of noise reduction (and a company) and amd IDT is a brand of High Definition audio cards.13:42
cfhowlettNoobuntu, I'd suggest clean upgrade with formatted /filesystem and, of course, a separate /home so you don't have to start COMPLETELY over each time.13:42
ThinkT510Noobuntu: a clean install is simply less complicated, more can go wrong with an upgrade13:42
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PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: alsamixer and pulseaudio are the ways that your computer allows you to interact with those cards.13:42
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anonymous9999999Noobuntu, you can still keep whatever apps you care about up to date with a PPA.  I would highly recommend staying on the LTS...the other ones have a strong tendency to be buggy13:43
PatrickDickeyI agree about the clean install vs upgrade. If you're building a new home, why use an old foundation?13:43
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: if that is so, then i think the default card is intel hda, i want to make it amd idt13:43
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PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: the problem is, your sound settings don't "see" that card. So, either it's a driver issue, or it's something with the sound settings. The suggestion to install pulseaudio is there to help rule out which one it is. And it's the easier of the two options (changing sound systems or finding/installing drivers)13:45
sg20002Hello. Can somebody help me with kernel panic? I get "/sbin/init: Accessing a corrupted shared library" when loading and then krenel panic happens. What's weird - it's not telling me what lib is broken.13:45
NoobuntuHmm, Those are some good points indeed. And what about applications in general. For example a music player, let's say you change a preference. Will most applications store a preference file in your /HOME or will settings be saved in /ETC?13:45
PatrickDickeysg20002: Did you make any changes recently, or has this been happening since you installed?13:45
cfhowlettNoobuntu, user preferences generally go to the user /home13:45
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: installed the pulse audio, but still the sound icon is not there on the panel13:46
anonymous9999999Noobuntu, some will go in /etc but majority will go in /home...I would back up your /etc directory each time you do a reinstall13:47
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: in your menu, you should have some options for pulse now.13:47
NoobuntuOn an unrelated note: Y WE NO HAVE Sublime 2 IN SOFTWARE CENTER?13:47
sg20002PatrickDickey: That machine worked for ages. There were no changes recently, but apparently it was having some weird problems not so long ago.13:47
zetherooif I go to the System Settings and then to Details > Graphics the Driver is "Unknown" - why is that?13:48
PatrickDickeysg20002: is it always the same message before the panic? Also, what do you see in /var/log/kernel.log around the time of the panic?13:48
PatrickDickeyzetheroo: what kind of video card do you have?13:48
cfhowlettNoobuntu, cuz REAL *nix users speak vim!  or vi?  or gedit?13:48
PiciNoobuntu: because no one has packaged it.13:48
anonymous9999999what is sublimme 2?13:48
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: no there are no options13:48
Pici!newpackage | Noobuntu13:48
ubottuNoobuntu: The packaging guide is at http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/  - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports and !sponsoring13:48
sg20002PatrickDickey: Oh, gonna go check that.13:48
MrBl33tnano ftw13:48
Guest93604zetheroo: in a terminal you can type in lspci | grep VGA13:49
cfhowlettMrBl33t, knew I was forgetting one13:49
* PatrickDickey prefers nano also13:49
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: the subwoofer is faded13:49
NoobuntuSo for an easily maintainable system a good setup would be: OS on SSD /HOME on other physical drive?13:49
MrBl33tnano ftw :)13:49
zetherooPatrickDickey: this is my gfx info http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566097/13:49
anonymous9999999Noobuntu, that's how I would do it...i think your swap should be on the physical drive also13:49
Noobuntucfhowlett, Your not a fan of a nice looking gui are you ;-).13:49
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: When you say that, you're looking in the sound settings, right?13:49
cfhowlettNoobuntu, sublime 2 website profile is shown on ubuntu.  Looks good13:50
zetherooGuest93604: I realize that there are ways of getting information via terminal ... but I am curious as to why this dialog is not picking up the Driver in use13:50
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: yes13:50
stroodlepupcfhowlett, still there?13:51
NoobuntuOh yeah Swap shouldn't be on the SSD I guess?13:51
Guest93604zetheroo: ah...no idea.13:51
cfhowlettstroodlepup, until starbucks kicks me out ...13:51
Guest93604zetheroo: as for an output in a gui i just use sysinfo13:51
zetherooGuest93604: right13:52
stroodlepuphow can i post a link?13:52
Noobuntuanonymous9999999, check out http://www.sublimetext.com/ It's a neat text editor.13:52
stroodlepupimage link?13:52
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.13:52
cfhowlettstroodlepup,  see the following   http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/chrome-flickering-videos-on-youtube-4175445575/13:52
stroodlepupsaw already13:52
cfhowlettstroodlepup, noted13:53
stroodlepupi'll be posting mine13:53
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: You might have to close sound settings and reopen it. Otherwise, you can also type lspci | grep Audio in a terminal, and see if it shows that card.13:53
* PatrickDickey should really be activating "sleep mode" for himself--not the computer. :P13:54
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: lspci shows there are two device from amd13:55
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: and is one of them the right device?13:55
arunkumar413arun@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep Audio13:55
arunkumar41300:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 990213:55
arunkumar41300:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01)13:55
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: is this the sound card13:56
Ben64arunkumar413: could  you pastebin the entire "lspci"13:56
NoobuntuHow well does ubuntu handle multiple monitors?13:57
MrBl33ti run multiple fine13:57
NoobuntuFor example having "virtual pixels" in between monitors.13:57
solidoodlesupporWhat's new and sweet in ubuntu?13:57
arunkumar413Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566110/13:57
zetherooGuest93604: btw, if you install mesa-utils then the Driver info shows correctly in the Systems Settings > Details > Graphics area :)13:58
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NoobuntuI have triple monitors for a pc. Are they identified as 3 different displays? Or can you do some eyefinity kind of setup?13:59
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: that what i did and posted it see above13:59
zetheroohas there been any progress in regards to the slow file transfer speed from HDD to USB stick!?13:59
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: And which card shows up in Sound Settings?14:00
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: arun@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep Audio14:01
arunkumar41300:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device 990214:01
VlanXis there a way of showing the exact size in bytes when you click property on a folder?14:01
arunkumar41300:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01)14:01
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: When you open Sound Settings, (where you were before you started typing in the terminal) which device is listed there?14:02
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: this is what i want to do, enable the correct sound card, configure the correct audio driver for the device, use the best sound card control system to configure the channels and woofers14:02
totermy question is kinda silly, but… Do any of you guys know how to enable an option in Gnome 3 to auto arrange icons? Every single time I remove a folder or file from the desktop, i have to manually right-click and select "organizee desktop by name"...14:02
Ben64arunkumar413: you do realize its a laptop, right?14:03
arunkumar413Ben64: yes14:03
stroodlepupcfhowlett http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=24404714:03
Ben64it has like... two tiny speakers under the screen14:03
cfhowlettstroodlepup, exactly as described.  I'm going to go with the theory of a chrome bug as found in that link I sent.  Fix?  Try a different browser maybe?14:04
arunkumar413Ben64: they may be tiny, the sound they produce is awesome in windows, as i said before the surround is not felt in linux. By the way did you ever listen to the dolby advanced audio altec lansing speakers sound on hp laptop in winodws14:05
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: Ben64 has a good point how are you connecting your external speakers to the laptop? Does it actually have an output for them, or are you connecting through the headphone jack?14:05
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: i'm using the internal speakers of the phone14:05
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: i'm using the internal speakers of the laptop14:06
blamiso many internal speakers ...14:06
PatrickDickey!sound | arunkumar413 this might help you. Especially Troubleshooting sound.14:06
ubottuarunkumar413 this might help you. Especially Troubleshooting sound.: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.14:06
Ben64its probably just a difference in equalization and/or processing effects14:06
IdleOneriply: can you send to channel now?14:07
NoobuntuIs a GTX 690 supported in ubuntu?14:07
arunkumar413Ben64: ah, may be its the wrong driver14:07
theseuseverytime I turn on my laptop without the power cable plugged in Ubuntu 12.04 won't boot to unity, any ideas?14:07
sgo11hi, how to install latest version of gthumb? the version in repo is too old. thanks.14:08
MonkeyDustsgo11  find a ppa, but at your own risk, not supporte here14:08
PatrickDickeyNoobuntu: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/304.37/README/supportedchips.html has a list of supported Nvidia cards in Linux.14:08
Eagleman As far as i know i am using dovecot only as SASL authentication backend for postfix, do you suggest disabling all functions that are currently not in use ( imap pop3... ) ?14:09
cfhowlettNoobuntu, have fun, be safe14:09
PatrickDickeyEagleman, I'd say yes. But you're better off asking in #dovecot than here.14:09
cfhowlettsgo11, download and compile from source is one option ...14:09
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566149/  play back is a generic audio device not the amd idt14:10
PatrickDickeyriply pass14:10
riplyPatrickDickey, thank you!14:10
PatrickDickeyriply no problem.14:10
Noobuntucfhowlett, PatrickDickey, thanks for your support! Btw, are there any people here that game frequently?14:11
sgo11cfhowlett, where can I download the source? or where can I find the ppa? I did lots of search. no luck. Not many people mention gthumb... it's the best image viewer I can find in linux.14:11
MrBl33tpretty impressed with 13.04. still needs nvidia upgrade sorting though. boots to a out of size desktop, you have to purge remove nvidia and reinstall to get it too work...14:11
cfhowlettNoobuntu, they come through.  expect more with steam coming online.  I think there's an irc for linux games14:11
sg20002PatrickDickey: Hmm Kernel logging seems to be disabled, since the last log is old. Is there a way to turn it on without booting the machine?14:11
PatrickDickeyNoobuntu: I do on occasion, but not much.14:11
Ben64Noobuntu: i play lots of tf214:12
MonkeyDust!ppa | sgo1114:12
ubottusgo11: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge14:12
cfhowlettsgo11, well it does show up in the universe repo ... version
fidel!info gthumb14:12
ubottugthumb (source: gthumb): image viewer and browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.0.2-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 1083 kB, installed size 3073 kB14:12
PatrickDickeysg20002: I'm not sure. How long does it go before it kernel panics?14:12
Noobuntucfhowlett, PatrickDIckey, Yes I'm excited with the release of steam on Linux. I do wonder why it hasn't caught on more. For example: WoW. They have an OSX client, how hard could it be to port it to linux? :/14:12
Ben64Noobuntu: there already is a linux client for wow14:13
theseuseverytime I turn on my laptop without the power cable plugged in, Ubuntu 12.04 won't boot to unity, any ideas?14:13
PatrickDickeyNoobuntu: most likely it's just a demand issue.14:13
cfhowlettNoobuntu, ask gaben.  I'm just glad that it's finally happening.14:13
sg20002PatrickDickey: I think it crashes just after initing ethernet connection.14:13
sgo11cfhowlett, when I do apt-cache show gthumb, mine show pool/universe/g/gthumb/gthumb_3.0.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb. why?14:14
PatrickDickeysg20002: Can you boot it into recovery mode?14:14
sg20002PatrickDIckey: No, the same thing happens.14:14
NoobuntuThe excuse that's used often is that the userbase is too small. But if there would be games the userbase would grow. It's just a matter of getting things started really.14:14
kostkonNoobuntu, blizzard will announce a linux games this year. you never know, it might be a wow linux client.14:14
cfhowlettsgo11, i'm on 12.04 and enabled backports ...14:14
Noobuntukoston, where have you read that?14:14
sgo11cfhowlett, I am on 12.10.14:14
kostkonNoobuntu, all over the net :P try phoronix.com14:15
NoobuntuBen64, what do you mean there is a linux client? If you mean using Wine, that's not a real client to me.14:15
Ben64Noobuntu: What I mean is, Blizzard made and has a working Linux native client for World of Warcraft14:15
sgo11cfhowlett, what does enabled backports mean? thanks.14:15
NoobuntuBen64, Hmm Googling on that now. Color me surprised!14:16
cfhowlettsgo11, i'm on 12.04.  if a 12.10 package is enabled for 12.04, I can get it if I have enabled "backports" as in a backwards ported package.14:16
PatrickDickeysgo11: Mine says Version: 3:3.0.2-0ubuntu2 when I do apt-cache show gthumb (on Lubuntu 12.10).14:17
w0rm-_xIn Ubuntu how do I check what programs are running just like in windows task manager?14:17
sgo11cfhowlett, ok. I guess I have backports too. I can see deb http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-backports in sources.list. why ubuntu 12.04 has higher gthumb version than ubuntu 12.10 ? weird.14:17
kostkonw0rm-_x, open your system monitor14:17
PatrickDickeysg20002: I'm not sure how to help you then. The last set of kernel panics that I had was due to bad memory. So, that's an option (running memtest86).14:17
w0rm-_xkostkon, where is that?14:17
sgo11PatrickDickey, yeah, the same version I have.14:17
NoobuntuOne of the big problems with Linux, and this is from other game developers too, is the problem of targeting a specific version of the platform. Since everyone is free to create their own distros, they can become somewhat unstandardized. That makes "targeting linux" difficult.14:18
cfhowlettsgo11, in terminal run apt-cache policy gthumb and see what you get14:18
NoobuntuI Lol'd when I read that.14:18
deadmundWhat is a good replacement for sudo service networking stop || start || restart   now that this feature is gone14:18
kostkonw0rm-_x, just search for it in the dash, assuming you are using ubuntu 11.10+14:18
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dv310p3rWhen I pull up Expo, I can switch between workspaces using the arrow key's. Does anyone know how I can bind the UP, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT actions to my vim keys instead?14:18
sgo11cfhowlett, I still got 3:3.0.2-0ubuntu214:18
PatrickDickeyNoobuntu: then they target the two main versions. Fedora/Debian(Ubuntu).14:18
sgo11it seems gthumb 3.7 has been released.14:19
sg20002PatrickDickey: Thanks anyways. Tried memtest.14:19
NoobuntuPatrickDickey, Indeed! But it does mean that they would have to make a lot of different deb's / rpm's? For the different versions and the 32 BIT / 64 BIT14:19
w0rm-_xkostkon, got it thanks14:19
PatrickDickeysgo11: Do they have a .deb file? Or is it tied into Gnome 3.7?14:19
kostkonw0rm-_x, :)14:19
MonkeyDustsgo11  latest is not always the best choice14:19
cfhowlettsgo11, I'm on ubuntustudio.  xubuntu is the DE ...14:20
PatrickDickeyNoobuntu: I think they'd just have to update the libraries and dependencies if those change. But both Fedora and Ubuntu are on 6 to 12 month release schedules. So it's not like they'd be doing it every day/week.14:20
sgo11I really hate the idea importing photos/pictures before viewing it. shotwell etc... being the default image viewer. sucks. I like viewing images by browsing folders.14:20
NoobuntuAlso, I can imagine game developers want to protect their code. Are you that well protected against reverse engineering in Ubuntu?14:21
PatrickDickeysg20002: Are you running memtest now, or did you already try it? And if you already tried it, did you get any errors?14:21
cfhowlettsgo11, fyi    http://www.rileybrandt.com/2012/07/31/linux-photo-1/14:21
sg20002PatrickDickey: No errors.14:22
cfhowlettShapeShifter499, greetings14:22
PatrickDickeyNoobuntu: I'd say you're as protected as you are in Windows. By that I mean someone can do it, if they want to.14:22
NoobuntuPatrickDickey, but I think for windows you extra sets of tools to scramble your code. Altough I must admit I don't really know what I'm talking about :).14:23
ShapeShifter499Is it possible to disable ssh password and instead have my system email me a new ssh key every day?14:23
cfhowlettsgo11, found the ppa  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/gthumb-300-released-ubuntu-ppa.html14:23
eruptermmm I think I screwed something with the network management... I ran some sudo iwconfig commands, and now, when I launch unity, the whole connection manager doesn't appear -_-14:24
ankrHello people. I just installed 12.04 and saw the new "Show desktop" option when switching windows with Alt+Tab.... Is there a way to remove that?14:24
ankrWhen I accidentally picks that option it minimizes all programs on all desktops, which is just.. lame.14:24
sgo11cfhowlett, thanks. I found it here: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/gthumb14:25
arunkumar413PatrickDickey: i think its the wrong kernel module which is driving the amd idt device, the kernel module which is driving is snd intel hda14:25
oeeveHi, I jsut installed ubuntu 12.04 lts. And it's giving me a hard time mounting drives, I get an error that only root can mount drives. I know I can edit fstap and add the uuid's to automount. and then chmod the mounted drive... But this seems quite time consuming for every drive and usb stick I ever put in my. I could aslo probably just stay logged in as root, but I would like to not Is there any hidden way to "tell/set" ubuntu to accept14:25
oeeve external drives for all users, and automount them14:25
MonkeyDustankr  first get used to the system, then try to modify things14:25
ankrthanks alot14:25
PatrickDickeysg20002: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks is a start. http://www.google.com/search?q=enable+kernel+logging+ubuntu might give you some good suggestions too.14:25
Ben64oeeve: ubuntu mounts external drives when they're plugged in by default14:26
BluesKajHiyas all14:27
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: I think the link that Guest93604 gave you earlier is the way to go then. In the long comment, the poster describes how to blacklist the intel driver.14:27
ayrusHello, while installing "myunity" error "There isn’t a software package called “myunity” in your current software sources." what to do14:27
deadmundayrus: what do you think myunity is?14:27
oeevebut I installed the server version, since i'm going to use it as a home file server. would the server version be different regarding this?14:27
PatrickDickeyarunkumar413: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1128351 is the link I'm referring to.14:27
ayrusdeadmund, its an application https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/myunity/14:28
TekniQueI have a problem with software raid on 12.04, the init scripts prevent the system from booting if they detect a hard drive that has some header associating it with a raid array14:28
oeeveI just get a long error message telling me i'm not allowed to mount drives14:28
Ben64oeeve: yeah definitely possible14:28
TekniQueeven if that raid array is not configured anywhere14:28
TekniQueand certainly not set to be mounted14:28
markovhwhat's that tool that does vnc,rdp and more and so on that's installed by default on ubuntu?14:28
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Ben64oeeve: what does "groups" say14:28
TekniQuethe machine drops to a shell in the initramfs14:28
deadmundayrus: trying to find it myself14:29
stroodlepupmidori works great14:29
TekniQueIs there no mode for a server machine to always boot, never under any circumstance halt at the console14:29
cfhowlettstroodlepup, no yellow spots?14:29
ayrusdeadmund, ok. I have updated the software sources using sudo apt-get update14:29
oeevegroup name seems to be the same as my account name14:29
ayrusdeadmund, but still its not found in ubuntu 12.1014:30
PatrickDickeyI'm not seeing it either.14:30
Ben64oeeve: you're only a member of one group?14:30
cfhowlettstroodlepup, ok then.14:30
pythonsnakeanyone using bitlbee with skype here?14:30
zykotick9!info myunity14:30
ubottuPackage myunity does not exist in quantal14:30
oeeveand Ben, how to you do that cool thing by having my nick in front of the message? :)14:30
deadmundayrus: It's not int he repos apparently.  here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203709/how-do-i-install-myunity-on-12-1014:30
oeevesorry, not so used to irc:p14:30
markovhnvm found it, remmina14:30
Ben64i type your name oeeve :)14:30
pythonsnakeor rather, is there a bitlbee with skype in the repos?14:30
zykotick9ayrus: myunity doesn't appear to be an "ubuntu" package, i see a PPA from OMGbuntu link...14:31
seednodeoeeve, start typing the name and hit Tab14:31
deadmundayrus: oh wait... reading now14:31
seednodeAnd it'll fill in the closest match14:31
deadmundayrus: what version are you on? 12.10 ?14:31
oeeveI gues so, should i change the groupe my users present in? to root or admin or someting maby?14:31
ayrusdeadmund, ok.14:31
oeeveBen64, cool :)14:31
Ben64oeeve: this is the groups i'm a part of on my desktop system - "ben64 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare mythtv"\14:31
ayrusdeadmund, http://askubuntu.com/questions/203709/how-do-i-install-myunity-on-12-1014:31
PatrickDickeyayrus: MyUnity is a third-party application, not official part of the Unity project. (from the link you gave us).14:32
ayrusdeadmund, Linux version 3.5.0-22-generic (buildd@komainu) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.7.2-2ubuntu1) ) #34-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 8 21:47:00 UTC 201314:32
oeeveah, I just checked properties on one of the mounted drives:p is there any smart terminal command to check group settings fast?14:32
deadmundwth is happening: the ubuntu site clearly says it's in the software center (I presume then that means it's in the repos)  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/quantal/myunity/14:32
deadmundayrus: I asked for your ubuntu version, not your kernel version.  cat /etc/issue14:33
Ben64oeeve: thats what i asked you originally : /     <Ben64> oeeve: what does "groups" say14:33
ayrusdeadmund, Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l14:33
arnabHi, I was messing around in keybinds, and somehow managed to bind "Ctrl+S" to something else than save...Now I can't see where I can rebind it to save :<14:33
PatrickDickeyayrus: https://launchpad.net/myunity is their launchpad page.14:34
deadmundayrus: ok, 12.10 then.  I'm not sure what is happening with this app14:34
ayrusPatrickDickey, let me follow your link.14:34
oeeveBen64, ah, sorry. this is what it says: centurion adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev sambashare lpadmin14:34
ayrusPatrickDickey, that's supported only till 12.04. :(14:35
PatrickDickeyayrus:  that's what I just found too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/myunity14:36
e-dardHi all, I often ssh into an application server, which then pulls from github our repos, using my private key on my local machine. So me --> remote --> github14:36
MonkeyDustayrus  looks like you're out of luck, then14:36
devmarkokay i use ubuntu now14:36
devmarkbut i dont like the desktop, can i change it?14:36
c2tarunHi friends, My room-mates on windows machine are not able to see my machine in there Networks window. But when they are trying to access my machine by my IP address they are able to access it. We are sharing data over Lan via Wi-Fi router14:36
e-dardSuddenly it's stopped working. ssh-agent is running on local14:36
devmarki want the old one, as windows, not on left side14:37
zykotick9!notunity | devmark14:37
ubottudevmark: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic14:37
MonkeyDust!notunity | devmark14:37
e-dardon my remote machine I get: ssh -T git@github.com --> Permission denied (publickey).14:37
MonkeyDustdevmark  install other DE, logout, select other DE, login14:37
NoobuntuIs Ubuntu Phone already downloadable somewhere?14:37
devmarkubottu: how can i encrypt my ubuntu?14:37
ubottudevmark: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:37
e-dardand also: ssh-add -L show --> Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.14:37
PatrickDickeydevmark: if you don't want Gnome, you can use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (KDE) xubuntu-desktop (XFCE) or lubuntu-desktop (LXDE) amongst others.14:38
e-dardwhen I do the same process to another remote server everything is fine. I know the issue is with remote_server and not my local machine.14:38
MonkeyDustdevmark  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory14:38
devmarkbe installed Recommends: usb-creator-kde but it is not going to be installed Recommends: userconfig but it is not going to be installed14:40
devmarkE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.14:40
vifanqMonkeyDust: cool feature of the encryptfs would be: ability to automount after 1 or 2 AC powerdowns14:40
devmarkcant install kubuntu-desktop14:40
MonkeyDustdevmark  sudo apt-get update, then try again14:41
arooni-mobileubuntu 12.10; now my google chrome stable wont start, starts up and crashes immediately;  terminal says: "Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.; Created new window in existing browser session.'.  google chrome is latest stable versoin.  ideas?14:42
arnabHi, I was messing around in keybinds, and somehow managed to bind "Ctrl+S" to something else than save...Now I can't see where I can rebind it to save :<14:42
pythonsnakeis there a bitlbee with skype in the repos?14:42
pythonsnakeanyone using bitlbee with skype here?14:42
zykotick9arnab: fyi ctrl+s is application specific, just remove whatever keybinding you've added for ctrl+S "should" restore it's behaviour14:43
c2tarunhow can I check for a packages version in repository?14:44
e-dardwhen I do ssh -vT git@github.com I can see that it does not offer up my private key on my local machine. It's not being forwarded correctly14:44
arnabzykotick9: thanks! :)14:44
devmarkhow do i then avaible kubuntu after install?14:44
eruptermmm didn't see this coming14:44
MonkeyDustc2tarun  apt-cache policy14:44
eruptermy ubuntu workstation has 2 network interfaces, unfortunately catting /etc/resolv.conf shows the wrong DNS gets prioritized. how do I go about this?14:45
KC4LZNAre there any references, paid or free, on how to write rules in udev other than this site I found? http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html14:45
MonkeyDustdevmark  like you said, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:46
erupteressentially I need both DNS but the one I choose must be the first to be called14:46
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NoobuntuIs there anything near the Visual Studio IDE for ubuntu?14:46
Valkohelo, i have an ubuntu server installation with 3 network cards, but only one is active, my interfaces configuration is this one: http://pastebin.com/UvSXMsge14:46
Valkoanything i did wrong?14:46
devmarkMonkeyDust: is it hard to get openvpn working on ubuntu? I really need it. and I already did apt-get install openvpn, but i dont understand what i should do after?14:47
erupterValko, don't you need auto eth1 auto eth2 auto eth3 too?14:47
MonkeyDustdevmark  never tried it, i'm sure someone else can help14:47
Valkooh yeah, thanks erupter xD didn't thought about this14:48
devmarkMonkeyDust: now i did kubuntu install, but it looks the same? how do i switch over to Kubuntu and vice versa?14:48
jribe-dard: does it get offered when you ssh elsewhere?14:48
zykotick9Valko: in addition to what erupter just mentioned, do you really have dhcp servers connect to each nic?14:48
NoobuntuIs there anything near the Visual Studio IDE for ubuntu?14:48
cfhowlettdevmark, reboot and when you get to the login screen, select kubuntu session14:48
erupterNoobuntu, Netbeans, Eclipse14:49
Valkono, it's an home server,14:49
devmarkcfhowlett: I didnt install ubuntu, i run it from live cd?14:49
devmarkdoes that make any matter?14:49
cfhowlettdevmark, well, then that won't work14:49
MonkeyDustdevmark  logout, select kde, mogin14:49
cfhowlettMonkeyDust, on the live CD?14:50
MonkeyDustah, live cd, missed that part14:50
zykotick9MonkeyDust: <ot> too bad your typo wasn't kogin14:50
Valkothanks erupter, you mention was right, all 3 connections are up now14:51
erupterValko, ^_^14:51
devmarkhmm didnt see any diffrent14:53
devmarkI just found PPTP VPN for Ubuntu in menu. Why is there none OpenVPN options? Is it possible to get openvpn option in there?14:54
researcher123How can I know if my screen is 1600x1080  or what?14:54
devmarkresearcher123: System Settings14:55
Ben64researcher123: xrandr14:55
zykotick9researcher123: in terminal type "xrandr" should show you14:55
arooni-mobileubuntu 12.10; now my google chrome stable wont start, starts up and crashes immediately;  terminal says: "Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.; Created new window in existing browser session.'.  google chrome is latest stable versoin.  ideas?14:55
devmarkresearcher123: System Settings / Displays14:55
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devmarkI just found PPTP VPN for Ubuntu in menu. Why is there none OpenVPN option? Is it possible to get openvpn option in there?14:56
researcher123thanks all14:56
devmarki already run apt-get install openvpn but can still just find PPTP14:57
devmarkin there14:57
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NielsMknI'm trying to install gnome-session-fallback but it keeps saying that its not available in your software sources. I've selected the main server for download in software sources14:57
devmarkwhere is everything from ubuntu gonna be saved? if I run live cd14:59
MonkeyDustdevmark  not15:00
KC4LZNAre there any references, paid or free, on how to write herb rules other than the man pages or this website? http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html15:00
KC4LZN*udev rules..15:01
PiciKC4LZN: you could try #ubuntu-desktop, they might have some better resources.15:01
devmarkMonkeyDust: not? somewhere it must be saved?15:01
devmarkMonkeyDust: in memory maybe?15:01
devmarkwhere is log files saving? if i run live cd ubuntu?15:02
MonkeyDustdevmark  when you end the live session, all saves and modifications are lost15:02
devmarkMonkeyDust: so nobody not even the police can see, that i have been used ubuntu?15:03
MonkeyDustdevmark  "not even the police"15:03
devmarkMonkeyDust:ok ty15:04
devmarki think there must be some small dumbs in memory or cache15:04
theseuseverytime I turn on my laptop without the power cable plugged in, Ubuntu 12.04 won't boot to unity, any ideas?15:04
Picidevmark: RAM is volitile memory, it does not retain anything after power is removed.15:05
arooni-mobileubuntu 12.10; now my google chrome stable wont start, starts up and crashes immediately;  terminal says: "Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.; Created new window in existing browser session.'.  google chrome is latest stable versoin.  ideas?15:05
bentinatatheseus:  your battery15:05
theseusmy battery is fine15:05
ironhalikanyone knows how to make middle mouse button on touchpad (three finger tap) permament? I need to use synclient TapButton3=2 command on every screen unlock15:06
devmarkPici: i know, but is there no cache in harddrive, that they can see "this guy has been used ubuntu, and they can see what homepages he has visit"? is this not possible with live cd?15:06
theseusthe wierd thing is, I can boot up my laptop with the power cord plugged in, boot into ubuntu and then unplug the power cable and everything works fine15:06
Picidevmark: the live cd does not write anything to your harddrive.15:06
theseusjust cant boot up correctly when charging cable isn't plugged in15:06
rman__hi guys15:07
devmarkPici: okay, so answer is no? caouse it sounds "not sure"15:07
jhutchinsdpurgert: Morning.  That guy ever get his networking figured out?15:07
Picidevmark: its no.15:07
devmarkPici: ok ty15:07
devmarki really like ubuntu15:07
devmarki didnt know they had update it so much15:07
devmarkfirst time i used it, it was more like windows15:07
tarunshhow can one get microsoft word to work on ubuntu?15:08
Pici!wine | tarunsh15:08
ubottutarunsh: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu15:08
sky__anyone there?15:09
tarunshor is there any good word like software which is open source....libre office is not matched to word.15:10
Picisky__: There are 1800 people here, if you have a question, just ask.15:10
Dionisttarunsh- what do you mean it's not matched to Word?15:10
sky__ok, i will , thks15:11
bentinataPici:  yeah, 1.8k but only ~7 who notice15:11
MonkeyDustDionist  he's  provoking a discussion15:11
tarunshi mean pffice tools like powerpoint, word etc are more convenient...now when i dont have windows on my system...i want good options15:11
NielsMkngtg later15:11
Guest4229MonkeyDust: troll detected :p...15:12
sky__some people join and quit all the time15:12
jhutchinstarunsh: open/libre office are the closest things to the MS stuff.  koffice is not as advanced.15:12
DionistTarunsh: Can't help you there. OpenOffice/LibreOffice is best for me, haven't used Word in years.15:12
bentinatasky__: disable your join/part messages15:12
tarunshok...thanx...well i will need some time to get used to it....15:13
bentinatasky__: what irc client you use?15:13
tarunshPici, ubottu...thanx for the "wine" thingy15:14
iricktarunsh: you have two options really. LibreOffice/OpenOffice or run Microsoft Office under WINE. The easiest way to do that is to take your Microsoft Office installation CD and use PlayOnLinux to walk you through the installation.15:14
ritzsky_ it is broken15:14
tarunshok..got it....will it be slowed down or become sluggish with wine?15:15
tarunshin any way15:15
irickNot really.15:15
zellcan anyone tell me how can I set root $PATH ?15:15
jribzell: why?15:15
tarunshthen that is the best option i guess15:15
zell(I just modified /etc/environment, but i didn't modified my root user PATH)15:16
katsumeblisktarunsh: Depends on your hardware.15:16
zelljrib: i need it to execute php adminstration tasks15:16
jribzell: how are you trying to execute them?15:16
tarunsh<katsumeblisk> ok15:16
zellzell: sudo pecl upgrade mongo15:16
zellzell: sudo pecl upgrade go take /usr/bin/php when i want him to use another one15:17
jhutchinstarunsh: You may need crossover office if you need more than the basics.15:17
zell(ofc, I just talekd to my self twice XD)15:17
tarunshjhutchins : what is crossoer office?15:18
zelljrib: i want to proritize a whole bin folder before another ...15:19
zelljrib: that's why i changed the path15:19
zelljrib: but not working for root15:19
soahcccI just discovered apt-dater... Isn't there something like this which doesn't require anything on the remote side except SSH and aptitude obviously?15:20
jribzell: ubuntu uses the secure_path option (see man pages for "sudoers" and "sudo").  You can see what it's set to in your /etc/sudoers (edit with the command "visudo")15:21
tarunshthis place is really cool, great way to get ubuntu related help.15:23
jribzell: I'm not familiar with pecl, but I see that it's installed /usr/bin/pecl from from the php-pear package.  Isn't /usr/bin already in your root's PATH?15:23
ikoniaplease don't use pecl15:24
ikoniait's bad, it will cause you pain in the log run15:24
jribzell: see ikonia15:24
PrincessLunaDo Multi touch systems like 5 and 10 point work in ubuntu15:24
EdePopedehi all, any chance to find out kernel version of xubuntu 12.10 without booting?15:25
katsumebliskPrincessLuna: Depends on the hardware.15:25
orudiehi. what works better with ubuntu 12.04, virtualbox or vmware workstation ?15:26
jribEdePopede: the default one?  The latest one? Or the one on your current system whose files you have access to at the moment?15:26
PrincessLunakatsumeblisk: Does it work (assuming drivers etc exist)15:26
jhutchinstarunsh: crossover office is the commercial version of wine, able to do more proprietary stuff.15:26
MonkeyDustorudie  virtualbow is in the repos15:26
EdePopedethe one on my cd15:26
MonkeyDustorudie  virtualbox* is in the repos15:26
EdePopedejrib: volname says Xubuntu 12.10 amd6415:27
jribEdePopede: ok, but I don't know which question you want the answer too15:27
jhutchinsPrincessLuna: Like katsumeblisk said, it depends on the hardware and whether there is linux support for it from the manufacturer.15:28
EdePopedejrib: like what would uname -r say?15:28
jribEdePopede: you can look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see what the default kernel is.  You could also just list the kernels in /boot and take a guess that it would boot the latest one15:29
PrincessLunajhutchins: Are there any 10 point and 5 point touch devices that work? Do KDE (primarily) or even unity accept multi touch gestures for interfacing?15:30
in^anyone having audio problems in Chrome?15:30
EdePopede.disk/info says: Xubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.1) ... and grub.cfg has absolutely no numbers15:30
PriceyAre there still compositing issues when your total screen(s) size breaches 2k in either direction?15:31
PriceyIf "maybe", are they only with certain cards... intels...?15:31
jhutchinsPrincessLuna: The only data on hardware compatibility is reports contributed by users, most of whom don't bother to make a report.  You can search for specific hardware and see if anyone has it working, but multipoint interfaces like that are far from common.15:32
njd001hmmm !java15:33
SnapSnapIs there a way to revert a dist-upgrade?15:34
jhutchinsSnapSnap: Restore your backup.15:34
MonkeyDustSnapSnap  or fresh install15:34
SnapSnapjhutchins, MonkeyDust, Thanks15:35
njd001so i have a dumb n00b question15:35
njd001i installed java based on some n00b url15:36
auronandace!java | njd00115:36
ubottunjd001: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.15:36
njd001java runs fine in the cli but the browers isnt linked15:36
njd001heyy i just tried that i guess you have to do ! command without text before it?15:36
auronandacenjd001: yes, the !command has to be first15:37
njd001oh thats right15:38
beauvaisCan anyone recommend a good Ubuntu IRC client?15:38
MonkeyDustbeauvais  irssi weechat and xchat are popular15:39
zykotick9beauvais: xchat for gui, or irssi/weechat for terminal are popular15:39
auronandacebeachbrake: gui = xchat; cli = weechat15:39
beauvaismany thanks15:39
auronandacebeachbrake: sorry, misstab15:39
othersubpol were are you? estas x aki ??15:39
njd001hmmm so it installed but still seems to be failing15:44
njd001when i go to www.java.com and run the java test it does not detect java. :-/15:45
njd001i also keep getting some web-apps-index error i sent the report (but with 1800 peopl in here im sure its just one of a few)15:46
blaminjd001: thats because firefox blocking latest java due some sort of vulnerability in it15:47
njd001ohhh thats right15:47
arooni-mobileubuntu 12.10; now my google chrome stable wont start, starts up and crashes immediately;  terminal says: "Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.; Created new window in existing browser session.'.  google chrome is latest stable versoin.  ideas?ubuntu 12.10; now my google chrome stable wont start, starts up and crashes immediately;  terminal says:15:47
arooni-mobile"Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.; Created new window in existing browser session.'.  google chrome is latest stable versoin.  ideas?15:47
katsumeblisknjd001: You probably have to enable the Java plugin, which I don't recommend unless you need it.15:47
njd001ponders going back to java 1.6.21 perhaps?15:47
in^anyone having audio problems in Chrome on 12.04LTS?15:48
njd001katsumeblisk i am trying to force Cisco Anyconnect to install from my ASA15:48
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njd001it does not seem to install manually so i know it deploys via java15:48
korsai am trynig to force zip file15:49
katsumeblisknjd001: I wouldn't go back to an older version of Java. THey're insecure.15:49
katsumeblisknjd001: Maybe this'll help http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/use-java-plugin-to-view-interactive-content15:49
njd001on a positive note the native qemu-KVM and virt-manager are running smoothly and wonderful on 12.1015:49
katsumeblisknjd001: You may need to install icetea if it's not there at all.15:50
* njd001 didnt want to install virtualbox or vmware15:50
* ikonia once again asks njd001 do stop with the /me commands15:50
njd001ikonia sorry bad habit15:50
ikonianjd001: and please stop calling people "noobs" when it's clear you're pretty inexpereinced yourself15:50
ikonianjd001: there is no need for iut15:50
njd001owes ikonia a dollar donation to ubuntu everytime he does it its up to about 10 bucks so far15:51
njd001i am calling myself one there ikonia15:51
ikoniaplease stop15:51
ikoniait's not a crime or "bad" to be new15:51
nick_hwhat would cause `ps u -p 12345` to show the user ID rather than the username of the process?15:52
ikonianick_h: the username not being associated to that uid15:52
Diegosnathi guys! Is there any distro optimized to run virtualbox or vmware workstation? I want to have a minimal distro to run virtual machines in, in order to have a multiboot! Any idea?15:52
ikoniaDiegosnat: no, there is no need for "optimization"15:52
njd001im just used to server side i install run the updates and hand it over to my Dev teams not used to a lot of this config to make things work I'll get it eventually.15:53
njd001and i will submit my donation later today :)15:53
Diegosnatikonia, i want one that boot and gives me openbox as prompt15:53
belgianguyHi, I'm trying to use an USB webcam, and am getting the following through hwinfo: http://pastebin.com/0HbRjCqh15:53
ikonianjd001: please stop saying "I'm used to the server side" - when yesterday it was clear you had no idea what you where doing on the command line15:53
ikonianjd001: it's "ok" to be new or inexperienced, so I don't know why you are trying to justify asking basic questions, it's "ok" to ask basic questions15:53
belgianguybut if I try to view it using vlc (reading from /dev/video1) I get a green image15:53
ikoniaDiegosnat: why do you want to boot to an open box prompt15:53
nick_hikonia: the uid is definitely associated with a username, though. ps outputs user ID 117, and `getent passwd 117` outputs "elasticsearch:x:117:127::/var/lib/elasticsearch:/bin/false"15:54
ikoniaDiegosnat: you can't run vm's from there....so what is the point.15:54
DiegosnatI want to create a multiboot computers15:54
ikoniaDiegosnat: so ?15:54
ikoniaDiegosnat: that has nothing to do with what you've just said, or asked for15:54
Diegosnatikonia, why not?15:54
philinuxbelgianguy: try it with the app cheese15:54
ikoniaDiegosnat: because it's not, what has openbox got to do with anything you've just said15:54
ikonianick_h: that's very odd15:54
belgianguyphilinux: that defaults to my default Webcam, while I inserted another one through USB15:55
ikonianick_h: if you "su - elasticsearch" and then do "id" does it report back ok ?15:55
Diegosnatikonia, sorry i meant virtualbox15:55
belgianguyphilinux: ah, I can pick sources, in Preferences15:55
belgianguystill green :(15:56
ikoniaDiegosnat: ??? what ? that makes no sense15:56
philinuxbelgianguy: soes it need a driver?15:56
Diegosnatikonia, minimal linux + virtualbox = multiboot15:56
usuariok pasa15:56
ikoniaDiegosnat: what are you saying, it makes no sense15:57
jhutchinsDiegosnat: When most people say multiboot they mean that the system can boot into multiple OSs or releases.15:57
ikoniaDiegosnat: that has nothing to do with multiboot15:57
nick_hikonia: the elasticsearch user's shell is /bin/false , so one can't switch to that user15:57
PiciDiegosnat: Are you looking to run virtual machines with graphical interfaces directly on that computer?15:57
ikoniaDiegosnat: 1.) boot linux 2.) start virtual box application 3.) boot any vm's you want15:57
jhutchinsikonia: I think he wants to boot a VM host, then have the option to launch multiple VMs of various systems.  Not the most efficient way to do it, but possible.15:57
ikoniajhutchins: booting any linux distro will give you that15:58
Diegosnatikonia, right15:58
jhutchinsDiegosnat: There is no pre-configured install that's meant to do that, you could just do a minimal install and add what you needed for the VM host.15:58
Diegosnatdont u think that would be cool?15:58
ikoniathe fact that you are asking these questions suggest you should not be using a minimal install15:59
ikoniaDiegosnat: ????? what are you talking about "that would be cool" any linux distro already does this ??15:59
Diegosnatikonia, you dont understand the idea15:59
jhutchinsDiegosnat: Both VMWare and RedHat offer optimized hypervisors.  I believe that the VMWare product is more highly optimized.15:59
Diegosnatjhourani, thank you16:00
Diegosnathowever i want to install that on my laptop16:00
Diegosnati want to boot up the linux distro with vmware or virtualbox in seconds16:00
ikoniaDiegosnat:....I'm pretty sure you want al linux distro, that on boot allows you to start/auto start VM's ?16:00
Diegosnatand after from there decide what I want to boto16:00
ikoniaDiegosnat: errrr the boot time has nothing to do with that16:00
ikoniaDiegosnat: that's disk / ram / cpu limitations16:00
ikoniaDiegosnat: boot any linux distro, set vbox to auto start....problem solved16:00
Diegosnatikonia, thank you, i knew that16:01
DiegosnatI was wondering if there was something ready16:01
ikoniathen why are you saying it ?16:01
ikoniaDiegosnat: there is....any linux distro16:01
ikoniaany linux distro is "ready"16:01
belgianguyI tried using it through MPlayer16:01
jhutchinsDiegosnat: I think what ikonia is on about is that you can set up a system that will actually boot to multiple different installed OSs without having to use a VM.  What a VM gives you is the ability to run more than one OS at the same time, within hardware limits.16:01
belgianguybut there I get a slew of errors http://pastebin.com/qJY8Vq8t16:01
Diegosnatikonia, you do not understand16:01
Diegosnati know that16:01
DiegosnatI want one ready16:01
Diegosnatthat boot only vmware16:02
Diegosnatand i can install it and be ready16:02
ikoniaDiegosnat: they are all ready16:02
ikoniaDiegosnat: vmware is a comercial product16:02
ikoniaDiegosnat: the version you want is called "VMWARE ESX Server"16:02
ikoniaDiegosnat: that is exaclty what you've asked for16:02
Diegosnatikonia, avoid to talk to me16:02
Diegosnatyou are stubborn16:03
Diegosnatand you think to be superior16:03
ikoniaDiegosnat: you're just asking for something that already exists16:03
Diegosnatwhat you are saying is obvious and everyone knows it.16:03
DiegosnatNO IT DOES NOT16:03
ikoniaDiegosnat: then why are you asking for something16:03
jhutchinsikonia: Your arguing with him isn't helping anybody.16:03
mojtabaDoes anybody know how can I automatically email the external IP address of the server?16:04
ikoniajhutchins: no, it's clearly not, it's a waste of time16:04
jhutchinsbelgianguy: Does it work despite the "errors"?16:04
Diegosnatikonia, if you do not understand because you think to be so cool is pointless16:04
belgianguyjhutchins: no, I get error after error16:04
belgianguyhowever, some frames seem to be parsed correctly, at least it states so at the end16:05
Picimojtaba: Huh? Can you rephrase that or maybe explain what you're trying to acheive?16:05
MonkeyDustmojtaba  i guess the people in #bash can tell you how to write a script to that end16:05
Diegosnatjhutchins, I want to install a minimal distro that boots to virtualbox. Does it exist? I know that I can configure everydistro to do that, but i want a very minimal one that is already configured that when X starts open virtual box16:05
jhutchinsmojtaba: There are are a number of programs like the dyndns client that can automatically update a DNS service, some of those can also work via email.  I wrote my own when I needed one.16:05
ikoniaDiegosnat: that is not an ubuntu question - so please stop asking in this channel16:05
jhutchinsDiegosnat: Not that I know of, you could ask in #vbox.16:05
ikoniaDiegosnat: we support Ubuntu here - only ubuntu16:05
jhutchinsikonia: Please just back off.16:06
techThijsyum install ubuntu =)16:06
njd001ikonia why would virt-manager say that KVM is not available if i do virtlibd -d it does not seem to want to start.16:06
ikonianjd001: is the kvm module loaded ?16:06
philinuxbelgianguy: see if any of this helps. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam16:06
njd001libvirtd shows running16:07
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ikonianjd001: no - the kernel module16:07
mojtabaActually I need to find what is the external IP address of my server each day, as I am not using the static IP address for it16:07
raven_how to set ipv4 link to "shared with other machines" via cmd?16:08
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njd001i do not believe they are.16:08
jhutchinsmojtaba: ok.16:08
llutzmojtaba: cronjobrunning "wget -qO- showip.com|grep IP|cut -d'>' -f4|cut -d'<' -f1   | mail -s my-ip me@example.org"16:09
zykotick9!ics > raven_16:09
ubotturaven_, please see my private message16:09
ikonianjd001: that will be your problem them16:09
ikonianjd001: you need the kernel module loaded to use kvm16:09
njd001yes performance sucks it seems.16:09
makerbreakris it possble to restart lightdm from a cron job?16:09
njd001well it starts to load then just hangs16:09
MonkeyDustmojtaba  start with this     curl ifconfig.me | tee ~/Documents/ip-address16:09
ikonianjd001: what starts to load ?16:09
njd001the vm i am trying to create16:10
MonkeyDustmojtaba  what llutz sais is better16:10
zykotick9ikonia: you might want to confirm with njd001 (i don't see there posts) that they have virt support in cpu (required by kvm) with command: cat /proc/cpuinfo | egrep '(vmx|svm)'16:10
ikoniazykotick9: a wise move always16:10
patiehi.. best ftp gui client ?16:11
Pici!best | patie16:11
ubottupatie: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.16:11
belgianguyphilinux: most of that I already tried16:11
belgianguyand the rastageeks driver is gone, or at least the site is16:11
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njd001i see vmx i dont see svm the CPU is SandyBridge on a t43016:12
jhutchinsmojtaba: the ddns3-client package does what you need - you may want to set up an account at dyndns at dyn.com.  I belive they are still free for up to two hosts.16:12
patiePici: THANK YOU :) REALLY16:12
jhutchinsmojtaba: If you have a router it may already have the ability to do that.16:13
njd001i do see smx16:13
njd001seems like i am missing something16:13
drPoohi all, Im runnint 10.04 LTS on a headless server and I get the following when running df -h "100% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs". Has anybody ran into this issue? I found this page http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1370 telling me to "sudo mv /etc/init/ureadahead.conf /etc/init/ureadahead.conf.disable". Any ideas?16:14
njd001ikonia the command kvm-ok verfied check box in the bios :)16:15
njd001i forgot to enable vt16:16
njd001that might help16:16
njd001apparently Lenovo moved the VT setting under security16:17
g105bI tried locking a Wine app to the launcher a year ago when Unity was new-ish, and it was difficult to make the launcher icon behave like an actual app (with running indicator, for example)... I tried again today and still not possible - anyone got a hack to make this behave properly?16:17
njd001ikonia does this mean i may have to recompile the kernel modules?16:17
ikonianjd001: no, just load the kernel module if your hardware supports it16:17
njd001it was disabled at the time of ubuntu 12.10 install16:18
njd001WHY Lenovo moved that under security is beyond me16:18
ikoniawhat was disabled ?16:18
ikoniaVT support ?16:19
philinuxbelgianguy: I bought logitech cos I knew it would work. Sorry cant be of any more help16:19
ikonianjd001: because it has security implications16:19
pradeep_after upgrading to linux-generic-image-3.5.0-22 my wirless stopped working16:19
pradeep_help me16:19
ikonianjd001: allowing guests access to the host16:19
njd001ah yes16:19
njd001makes sense.16:20
ikoniaso if you don't need it, why introduce a risk16:20
ikoniaand if you do need it you should be aware enough to enable it16:20
belgianguyphilinux: thanks, but this is just for a demonstration, if I buy hardware, I do, too, buy $RELIABE_BRAND16:20
pradeep_after upgrading to linux-generic-image-3.5.0-22 my wirless stopped working16:20
belgianguybut in this case, the hardware was supplied to me and I'm stuck with it :)16:20
njd001eww it did not like me turning that on16:20
njd001someones irc client is going awol16:21
drPoohi all, Im runnint 10.04 LTS on a headless server and I get the following when running df -h "100% /var/lib/ureadahead/debugfs". Has anybody ran into this issue? I found this page http://www.somewhereville.com/?p=1370 telling me to "sudo mv /etc/init/ureadahead.conf /etc/init/ureadahead.conf.disable". Any ideas?16:21
jhutchins!any ideas?16:22
ubottujhutchins: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:22
toteris anyone having problems with bootchart? it takes 10 secs max to boot ubuntu on my machine, but bootchart shows that the boot process took 50 secs!!! http://imgur.com/lMSU4bB16:22
njd001ikonia this looks a LOT better no error on virt-manager now.16:23
philinuxbelgianguy: was is the device code for it in lsusb16:23
pochefuokhi everyone, how can i add an IRC channel of ubuntu in italian?? thanks! ;D16:24
zykotick9!it | pochefuok16:24
ubottupochefuok: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)16:24
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belgianguyphilinux: Bus 002 Device 005: ID 06a5:d001 Divio ProLink DS3303u Webcam16:25
pochefuokthanks ubottu16:25
njd001which ones the better video vmvga/xen/qxl/cirrus(isnt cirrus like the old tn5270)16:25
MonkeyDustnjd001  better depends on what you prefer16:26
ikonianjd001: never had a problem with the vmvga, but it depends on what you want/need16:26
njd001MonkeyDust yes i just realized this goes with the question i had yesterday about selection of video modules. I also noticed that my corporate ISO when it goes to install it does not see C:\16:27
njd001perhaps this will be fixed now with the module loaded..16:27
philinuxbelgianguy: it shows up in here ok http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/video4linux/gspca.txt16:27
nick_hikonia: it turns out that the username is too long for ps to display. instead, ps shows the uid16:27
belgianguyah, thanks philinux, that at least assures me it should work16:28
pythonsnakewhere does service starting errors go to?16:29
njd001good golly miss molly much faster :D16:29
serei have a labtop and a vga monitor and trying to turn on a monitor from command so i can set resolution16:29
nemo*sigh*  So, I'm a big boy, and I'd like to decided when I want to update.  The new dialog from the updater seems determined to make it really hard to avoid.  keeps that window around, w/ restart focused, only one alt-tab + enter away from catastrophe16:30
nemoso. I have to xkill it16:30
nemois there a way to get the old dialog back? some settings/config thing?16:30
nemoI mean, xkill isn't horribly hard to do, I can make a little icon for it. but. still...16:31
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pradeep_my wireless is not working plz help me16:33
philinuxbelgianguy: no idea if this will help or not. http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/get-your-webcam-working-gspca16:33
belgianguyah thanks philinux, I'll try that!16:33
pradeep_plz help me16:34
philinuxbelgianguy: I thought by now that the drivers for that cam would be built in to kernel16:34
MonkeyDustnemo  system settings, software sources, updates16:34
zombiejimJust wanted people to know that with a nvidia 310m, installing bumblebee corrupted my graphics card. Installing the 310 beta runs flawlessly just in case you were having problems16:35
nemoMonkeyDust: hrm. have to switch to unity to access that I 'spose.  Thanks.16:35
MonkeyDustnemo  what DE are you in?16:35
nemoMonkeyDust: MATE16:35
nick_hif /var/run/ isn't world-writable, how are other processes supposed to create PID files?16:36
nemoMonkeyDust: there is the old software sources dialog (like synaptic launches) but that has no way to control that dialog's annoyance unfortunately16:37
BorgCubahi, I cant switch off frto16:37
BorgCubai.e. "sudo echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_frto" results in permission denied16:37
nemoBorgCuba: sudo sh -c "echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_frto"16:38
PiciBorgCuba: sudo does not pass I/O redirection operators.16:38
BorgCubaokay, thanks!16:38
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PiciBorgCuba: or echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_frto16:38
nemoor just sudo su   and do whatever :-p16:38
BorgCubanemo's suggestion worked16:39
raven_i am trying to set up my pc as wireless access point. i see in iftop the client device connects to the dns but i cannot load any website - any ideas how to solve that?16:39
BorgCubabye and thanks for the help, nemo and Pici16:39
in^anyone having audio problems in Chrome on 12.04LTS?16:40
nemoraven_: well. speaking personally, I've never had any luck w/ adhoc16:40
kostkonin^, what kind of problems16:40
raven_nemo, ad hoc is no option16:40
in^no audio on videos16:40
nemoraven_: oh. you're not doing adhoc? good16:40
raven_nemo any way to look for the problem? any iptable that is not set right?16:40
in^works fine in Firefox16:40
raven_nemo, no real ap with hostapd and dnsmasq16:41
nemoraven_: no familiarity outside of adhoc. sorry :)  I know some about dyndns and routing in linux, but not wifi.16:41
kostkonin^, on a specific website or everywhere?16:41
jhutchinsraven_: Is your AP doing NAT for the wifi?16:41
in^all video flash / html516:41
raven_jhutchins, it i am not sure i did sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s -o eth0 -j MASQUER16:42
nemoMonkeyDust: right. I'll try to remember. maybe I'll jump into unity real quick when I do the reboot. thanks :)16:42
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jhutchinsraven_: That looks like yes.  Is the AP getting NAT from a router or does it have a public address?16:43
MonkeyDustnemo  should be similar in mate, i'm not familiar with the DE, tho16:43
in^@kostkon any ideas?16:43
raven_jhutchins, uplink is eth0 with
kostkonin^, if you start a video in chrome and then open your sound prefs and select the Applications tab, do you see chrome listed in there?16:44
in^@kostdon: hmmm let me check16:44
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in^@kostkon no, it is not listed16:45
kostkonin^, hmm16:45
in^@kostkon: it was working fine, did some auto updates and its stopped working16:46
in^@kostkon: thinking it was an oss update16:46
kostkonin^, ?!!?!16:46
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raven_jhutchins, i see a dnsrequest on wlan0 but not on eth0 - obviously its not bridged right - how to setup the bridge right?16:46
kostkonin^, have you by any chance installed oss or tried to configure your sound somehow?16:47
in^@kostkon: oss is installed but has been for a while16:48
deadmundWhat is a good replacement for sudo service networking stop || start || restart   now that this feature is gone16:49
kostkonin^, do you now the reason?16:49
kostkonin^, why it was installed16:49
kostkonin^, maybe it was a dep for something else, do you remember16:50
anonymous9999999deadmund, /etc/init.d/networking stop /etc/init.d/networking start16:50
in^think it was for using my usb condensor mic16:50
raven_jhutchins, any idea?16:51
in^i can uninstall and see if that works16:51
njd001ikonia i solved my disk issue looks great apparently the VT bit was my virt-manager issue. Thanks :D16:51
deadmundanonymous9999999: Are you sure that works?16:52
deadmundanonymous9999999: I'm not on an ubuntu machine right now16:52
Thordeadmund: that or replace with restart instead16:53
in^@kostkon checked in Synaptic... oss is not installed so must be an Alsa problem?16:53
anonymous9999999deadmund, yep that works16:53
Thordeadmund: but sudo service networking * works on my 12.10 servers, so that feature isn't gone afaik?16:54
kostkonin^, possibly16:54
devmarkhow do i change keyboard settings_16:54
devmarkto swedish16:54
in^is it possible to revert to Alsa that was used before update?16:54
zachBneed to create a install disk for ppc64.16:54
PsyMarI am trying to figure out how to install wine on 64-bit ubuntu, and I'm getting dependency errors, where should I start?16:54
deadmundThor: oh :P16:54
deadmundThor: It was def gone for a little while16:55
Thordeadmund: root@gw-01 ~# service networking restart, worked of rme16:55
kostkonin^, do you remember what packages were updated?16:55
in^i just said update all16:56
zachBsomeone recommended a g5 powerMac any idea how to create an install distro install the the g5 will see from the boot selecont16:56
Thordeadmund: for that sake, I can't remember seeing that it haven't been there in any version since 11.04 at least16:56
kostkonin^, how long ago. Maybe it's still in the dpkg.log16:56
devmarkhow do i change so i can write swedish letters_16:56
in^last week16:56
anonymous9999999deadmund, it's there in 12.0416:56
in^should be, where is the log located?16:57
kostkonin^, in a terminal, give:  gedit /var/log/dpkg.log16:57
Thordevmark: what version of ubuntu are you using?16:57
in^k, brb16:57
devmarkThor> lubuntu16:57
Thordevmark: version...? server? Desktop?16:58
devmarkThor> live cd desktop16:58
Thoragain, version?16:58
raven_i am trying to set up my pc as wireless access point. i see in iftop the client device connects to the dns but i cannot load any website - any ideas how to solve that?16:58
devmarkThor> Thor 3.2.0-23-generic16:59
Thordevmark: 12.10? 12.04? 11.10? 11.04?16:59
njd001ikonia / zykotick9 when the cat /proc/cpuinfo does it _have_ to have both vmx svm or is it 'one or the other' type thing?16:59
ShapeShifter499does anyone know what ham0 is?  I get it as a interface when I run ifconfig16:59
in^@kostkon: only audio related update was Pulse Audio on the 18th17:00
Thordevmark: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1039107, switch ar with se17:00
in^has to be the culprit17:00
kostkonin^, hmm right.  in a terminal give:  ps -A pulse   do you get any output?17:01
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anonymous9999999ShapeShifter499, google is your friend17:01
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in^@kostkon: get a sytax err, should there be a | grep in there?17:02
ShapeShifter499anonymous9999999, right now I can't connect to google.com (or any google services17:02
njd001wow people still flood advertise...thats stupid17:02
anonymous9999999ShapeShifter499,  http://dougmelton.com/other-fun-stuff/hamachiubuntuhowto/17:02
devmarklubuntu@lubuntu:~$ setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,sv17:02
kostkonin^, lol sorry, yeah, it should be  ps -A | grep pulse17:02
devmarkError loading new keyboard description17:02
devmarkThor didnt work17:02
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ShapeShifter499ahh ok17:03
Thordevmark: what version of lubuntu did you download?17:03
in^@kostkon: output // 2417 ?        00:29:00 pulseaudio17:03
nick_hif /var/run/ isn't world-writable, how are non-root processes supposed to create PID files?17:03
kostkonin^, ok17:03
devmarkThor. how do i check that_17:03
ShapeShifter499anonymous9999999, thank you, I was trying to set that up before I messed up some network settings17:03
anonymous9999999ShapeShifter499, np17:03
Thorcat /etc/lsb-release17:04
zykotick9nick_h: isn't /var/run linked to /run for you?17:04
Thordevmark: cat /etc/lsb-release17:04
in^@kostkon: is there a way to downgrade PulseAudio?17:04
Thordevmark: just need the DISTRIB_RELEASE= line17:04
devmarkThor> so what command should i use instead_17:05
kostkonin^, no need to, but you could reset it, by doing the following: pulseaudio -k   then: rm -rf ~/.pulse  and finally: pulseaudio -D17:06
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sybaritenA VPN solution at my work requires an alien computer to be "company compliant" to connect. On the linux side, this means: IPtables active with rules, v >= 1.4.7 , ClamAV v >= 0.97.3, AnyConnect17:06
sybaritennow, for the first part there.... what do i want to see if i do an iptables -L ? i see three "chains"17:07
sybaritenwith very little info17:07
Thordevmark: tried this? http://noobish-nix.blogspot.no/2012/06/how-to-add-and-switch-keyboard-layout.html17:07
nemoMonkeyDust: well, under software sources->updates I didn't see anything that would change that dialog to allow cancelling instead of just prompting for restart17:08
nemoMonkeyDust: so I'm assuming there's just a different app in Unity.17:08
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kostkonin^, close all the apps that are capable of producing audio before doing it17:09
njd001MonkeyDust how long does pastebinit hold the data ?17:09
in^@kostkon: what about system sounds?17:09
nemosybariten: my guess is they want a default reject or drop rule17:10
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nemosybariten: w/ whitelisted ports17:10
raven_i am trying to set up my pc as wireless access point. i see in iftop the client device connects to the dns but i cannot load any website - any ideas how to solve that?17:10
sybaritennemo: ok.... any search info about that?17:10
kostkonin^, not it's ok. actually the apps that are currently connected to pulseaudio, like e.g. if you are have a media player running or an flash vid in firefox17:11
nemosybariten: there are probably a ton of iptable sample firewalls out there17:11
in^@kostkon: ok will let you know what happens17:11
nemosybariten: I guess I could share my script after cleaning it up a bit17:11
sybaritennemo: that'd be kind of you17:12
sunny__Hi everybody17:14
in^@kostkon: output// E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.17:17
kostkonin^, ok then give again:  rm ~/.pulse, then logout and login back again17:17
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hsnmckHello, lets say that I have two network interfaces wlan and eth0, is there a way to force chrome to use wlan and firefox to use eth0 ? Thanks17:22
angsI connect a device through telnet and I need to execute "exit" on that device, however when I type exit, the telnet is terminated. is there any way to change exit command on telnet?17:22
icemanany ideas why i keep getting this error when running apt-get install firefox:amd617:23
nick_hzykotick9: yeah, it is. the question still applies, though  =)17:23
icemanErrors were encountered while processing:17:23
giricz81hi guys, I am experiencing problems with dropbox v 1.6.16, there is only red icon with exclamation mark in my panel, and there is only complains  "can't acces dropbox folder"17:23
zykotick9nick_h: my /run isn't world writable either, but stuff seems to get in there ok?  good luck.17:23
kostkoniceman, give:  sudo apt-get clean    and then try to apt-get install it again17:24
icemanhow can i fix the error to get firefox to install?17:24
prodnixHi all, using disk manager I just created a raid0 with 2 ssd's. Benchmark results are exactly the same as a single drive? Waht am I missing?17:24
icemani have done all that but no luck. will try that again17:24
njd001prodnix thats a storage question and i can answer that you aren't missing anything17:25
njd001which raid did you do ?17:25
icemangetting the same error17:25
njd001prodnix which raid did you do?17:25
prodnixnjd001: can you clear up my misconception of performance doubling?17:25
_raventrying to setup a wlan acess point with hostapd and dnsmasq. anything is not right with the bridge between wlan0 and eth0 - need help please17:26
icemanE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)17:26
njd001prodnix yes that doesnt happen with raid thats not the point of raid17:26
prodnixnjd001: I used the GUI tool for lack of being arsed to go google it up. I used mdadm afaik17:26
njd001prodnix which raid did you do 0/1/2/3/4/5/6/10/5017:26
icemanis there any way to do a force install of firefox?17:27
prodnixnjd001: But I thought that was the point of RAID017:27
in^@kostkon: no joy, must be chrome, because audio in everything else works fine17:27
njd001RAID 0 gives you space expansion over more than one disk and its not good unless you mirror it if you have a single disk failure you're screwed.17:27
kostkonin^, :(  you could try reinstalling it17:27
in^i did, gonna try to downgrade17:27
ikoniaits not good if you mirror it either17:27
njd001RAID 0 is faster than all the other raids...but still17:28
ikoniaraid 0 is for high performance trash data17:28
ikonianothing else17:28
nemokostkon: other browsers work?17:28
njd001let me get you the BEST url for RAID17:28
in^@nemo: yes17:28
MichaelPCan i create a livecd of my system for backup purpose ?17:28
kostkonin^, you could try testing it with a new profile. http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=14205917:29
prodnixWell I just got 2 SSD's in the post ready to start messing around with bcache. Im stumped now17:29
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ikoniaMichaelP: you can, but it's quite a bit of effort17:29
in^hmm, good idea17:29
axgbHow do you edit the gnome3 tray17:29
njd001I worked for both NTAP and did a LOT with EMC and was on SAN for a long time at Cisco i agree with ikonia for the most part its for data you dont care about like a copy of your music or something that would be backedup elsewhere17:29
axgbI want to add wicd to it17:29
njd001prodnix here is the Best of the BEST url's that explains RAID 0-6 + 10 50 0+117:30
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njd001also know that RAID 10 and RAID 0+1 are NOT the same.17:31
prodnixnjd001: I purely took the plunge into SSDs because of bcache, Im not totally set back. I quite sure I can use both SSDs to their fullest17:31
MichaelPikonia, What would i need.. I want something.. going to take windows off... the harddrive.. And i have my system now setup the way i want... So i want to loose anything17:31
_raventrying to setup a wlan acess point with hostapd and dnsmasq. anything is not right with the bridge between wlan0 and eth0 - need help please17:31
prodnixnjd001: Ive spent a while looking into raid, I have 4 500G disk in LVM stripe and got insane improvements in bandwidth17:32
njd001this is SSD ?17:32
icemanany ideas why apt-get or aptitude failed to install firefox? i use the firefox tarball install and it runs fine.17:32
prodnixnjd001: mechanical disks17:32
njd001spindles ok what rpm's are they and yes they should be identical disks if possible17:33
disharmoniciceman, unless you tell us the apt-get error noone can answer that17:33
njd001prodnix most raid controllers sync the spindle to prevent from becoming whats known as spindle bound.17:34
prodnixnjd001: 7200RPM, 2 old samsungs and 2 newer WD's i think17:34
njd001oo yeah you dont want to do that17:34
icemanhere is the error again i get near the end of the install again17:34
njd001your RAID 0 on all these drives?17:34
adamkiceman: Pastebin the *full* output of the command.17:34
prodnixnjd001: yes, been running them for months without a problem17:34
_raventrying to setup a wlan acess point with hostapd and dnsmasq. anything is not right with the bridge between wlan0 and eth0 - need help please17:35
njd001so what happens is the raid controller will look at all spindles and if the newer WD's are faster it will try to throttle them (at least a good RAID controller will) to match the lower speed of 7200 rpm17:35
prodnixand they massively vary is performance too, but its all junk data like games and redownloadable crap17:35
njd001yes it will17:35
njd001because your running multiple spindles in different RPMS17:35
njd001your getting whats called spindle bound.17:35
prodnixnjd001: but these SSDs need to be firing on all 12 cylinders for my bcache testing17:36
njd001it means the disks are indepedent but if the buffers on them are different sizes or the spindle spins at a different rate than it won't keep up17:36
icemanhere is error: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/208323717:36
prodnixnjd001: I run multiple windows VMs on my PC and host LANs with my mates and disk is a huge bottleneck17:37
njd001ok wait you just said you have 7200 RPM disks are you trying to raid SSD with 7200 RPM ?17:37
prodnixnjd001: no17:37
njd001clarify please.17:37
prodnixnjd001: seperate array17:37
njd001what raid controller model are you using?17:37
icemannote that i also run into similar error when trying to install the 32bit version as well17:38
prodnixnjd001: check out bcache, ul understand where im heading17:38
in^@kostkon: no joy :-/17:38
prodnixnjd001: mdadm, software raid17:38
kostkonin^, :(17:38
in^will downgrade and let you know17:38
ClientAliveI've been trying to find a solution to a particular piece of software on my system (running 12.04 server with gnome 3). I have Visual Paradigm Community Edition installed but it installs to my home directory (and I HATE that - hate'). So I think I've found an option but not sure I know enough to understand whether it will do what I want for me. Can someone please help me evaluate the option?17:38
njd001Are the disks all using the same raid controller... I'm familiar with caching and cascaded disk arrays.17:38
ClientAliveWhat I want is to install it to /opt/VPUML/17:38
ClientAliveHere's what I found: vpworkspace17:38
ClientAlivesorry, hang on17:39
ironhalikIs there any fingeprint reader UI that works with encrypted home dir?17:39
prodnixnjd001: I am am not running any controller, Im using the software raid in linux called mdadm17:40
Miebsterwill rm -rf /this/dir/*  follow symlinks in /this/dir/ and delete data that exists outside of /this/dir?17:40
njd001ok so your wanting the SSD to act as a prefetch to the actual RAID'ed disks the spindles.17:40
prodnixnjd001: exactly :)17:40
njd001yep got it i sww that17:40
njd001see that.17:40
njd001lemme thnk about this for a second... brb17:40
disharmoniciceman is that acroread package from the official repos?17:40
prodnixnjd001: tyvm :)17:40
njd001is going to his whiteboard to diagram it out...17:40
icemani am not sure. how can i tell?17:41
prodnixnjd001: lol17:41
njd001ok so your doing software raid (argh)17:41
belgianguyis there a way to get a binary dump from a webcam17:41
belgianguyit won't open in any of the tools I've consulted17:41
belgianguyfrom ffmpeg to mplayer, vlc, xawtv17:42
prodnixnjd001: I know this sux but I have plenty of cores to go around so I dont mind the overhead17:42
njd001prodnix let me get back to my spindle question how many disks are in that raid and what raid format is it obviously your doing RAID 0 on the SSD's17:42
teekohwhat can i use as a dynamic proxy forwarder? On one internal computer I want to connect to my internal proxy that looks up a proxy list and forwards my original request to the actual proxy in the list. IDEAS?17:42
njd001so the only way in any given RAID system that SSD works best is once the data is cached there but you still have to overcome the issue of spindles.17:43
prodnixnjd001: they are all in the same array, RAID0 (I know its ballsy). 2 of them are around 30% slower than the other 2. the 2 slower drives also have half the cache.17:43
njd001then what your doing will not work17:44
prodnixnjd001: I am totally up for suggestions too, I have enough space to backup17:44
teekohin a raid, it only works as fast as your slowest piece of hardware17:44
njd001at least not that way17:44
prodnixnjd001: at which level will it not work?17:44
disharmoniciceman, i did a quick search and there's no acroread pkg in 12.04 at least. The cmd apt-cache showpkg packagename should tell you more17:45
njd001prodnix heres the design change: you want to take the spidles of the same speed and put them each into its own raid group. rg1 and rg217:45
prodnixteekoh: when I can dd almost 600MB/s I dont care :)17:45
njd001the SSD needs to be RG017:45
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icemannot sure why it try to overwrite file /usr/lib/firefox/plugins when there's no plugins folder17:46
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njd001the SSD's and disk spindles should never ever ever ever ever did i say ever ever touch each others volume riding on them.17:46
shark12342Can u guys me if this is real17:46
shark12342macbook air for $17017:46
adamkiceman: Because dpkg thinks there is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/, and it thinks this was installed by some acroread package you managed to install somehow.17:46
icemaniam using v12.10. an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.1017:46
adamkiceman: So remove the acorread package.17:46
xanguadisharmonic: iceman adobe reader is on partner repository17:46
njd001otherwise what your trying to do is pair a Ferarri engine in a Chevy Chevette with 10 people stuffed in the car.17:47
prodnixnjd001: How will I then utilise both spindle arrays?17:47
njd001i just said it :)17:47
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icemanlet me search for acroread package and remove it.17:47
disharmonicxangua, hmm i should have those enabled17:47
njd001you create a volume that sits on the spindles as two raid groups paired oon disk speed.17:47
ortixhi guys, i'm having a little trouble running cron17:48
prodnixso the finished product will be using 2 arrays? instead of 1 big 1?17:48
ortixi can't seem to run commands and i can't figure out how to even check if it ran17:48
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njd001then you create one raid group for the SSD's that are independent from the spindle (they act as a front load cache) to the spindles.17:48
vinylhey guys do any of you guys know were i can find the mouse write file?17:48
ortixall I want to do is run flexget every 30 minutes17:48
njd001normally you would never do this as a software driven raid17:49
njd001you really need a HW Raid controller to do this right.17:49
prodnixok, I suppose with the cache I wont need the spindle bandwidth17:49
prodnixmakes sense17:49
njd001no you dont its slowing you down.... actually its Mocking you and "laughing" in a way17:49
prodnixnjd001: hehe17:49
njd001because the SSD's have to act as the same speed of a 7200 rpm disk.17:50
Padd_hi is there someone here that can help with a question regarding adding a user to sudo ?17:50
prodnixnjd001: well I only got the SSDs today so my huge spindle bandwidth served me well up until now17:50
njd001look at the designs of some of the best storage arrays in the world..EMC, NTAP, storageTEK17:50
prodnixnjd001: I am very interested in zfs but Im not forking out for the slc ssd's17:51
root____1I'm installing tftpd on ubuntu 11.04 http://www.davidsudjiman.info/2006/03/27/installing-and-setting-tftpd-in-ubuntu/comment-page-4/#comment-94631 from this page and it's not working...I don't see any ports listening17:51
njd001the logic is that when you use SSD as a flashCACHE when you pull a file in from the spindle it loads to the SSD the metadata gets tagged so that it rarely has to talk to the disk and only provide the delta in data change to write to disk.17:51
prodnixnjd001: hope bcache will fill the gap and not have to spend a fortune17:51
vinylnvm i found it :317:51
njd001the only time it has to reflush the SSD (flashcache) is if you blob big data through it and it flushes your cached data.17:52
prodnixnjd001: Am I heading in the right direction with my hardware?17:52
prodnixnjd001: will it suffice for my project? :)17:53
njd001yes well RAID cards can suck too because they normally come with a tiny spec of memory about 512 MB thats used for metadata tagging for the location of data on a spindle or SSD17:53
jrib!11.04 | root____117:53
prodnixnjd001: thank you for your help17:53
ubotturoot____1: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on October 28, 2012. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.17:53
icemanthanks guys! acroread was the root cause of the problem. not sure how or when the acroread got install17:53
prodnixnjd001: much appreciated17:53
root____1so i should upgrad17:53
jribroot____1: your priority should be to upgrade to a supported release.  You're not receiving security updates on 11.0417:54
qhartmanI've been having consistent problems with Remmina killing my window manager on 12.0417:54
njd001some of the largest PetaByte Netapp filers use 7200 rpm 1-2-3 TB disks but set 1-2TB PCI 3.0 slotted SSD in front of the spindle.17:54
qhartmanAnyone else seen this?17:54
prodnixnjd001: which software cache should i be focusing on?17:54
root____1is there an alternate tftpd since I can't get this working?17:54
prodnixnjd001: u mention flashcache17:54
prodnixnjd001: Ive heard a lot of good stuff about bcache17:55
njd001prodnix flashCACHE is just the name netapp gives its 2 TB PCI slotted card that sits in a PCI 3.0 busline (they are about 30,000 dollars on a filer implimentation)17:55
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jribroot____1: you just want an ftp server?17:56
prodnixnjd001: ah, the benchmark i read compared against software called flashcache, hence the confusion17:56
njd001bcache is just a software implimentation of Cache I/O that most storage companies use HW to do it it most likely runs a form of bcache thats embedded in the PCI card.17:56
prodnixnjd001: awesome, learning more from u than hours of googling :D17:57
root____1tftp so I can back up my cisco images17:58
prodnixnjd001: filled me with confidence and enthusiasm17:58
njd001prodnix when you do SAN and NAS storage for a long time you become an expert. even if you dont want to be.17:58
jribroot____1: I don't know then.  My suggestion would be to see if the problem persists after you upgrade and if so, come back and troubleshoot17:59
njd001has seen whole corporations become spindle bound even in a netapp or emc array because of lack of proper configuration it can be entertaining. Glad i could help.17:59
prodnixnjd001: Legend! :)18:00
chimeracoderI'm having trouble creating installation media for Ubuntu 12.10 for use alongside OS X Lion - any suggested approach?18:00
prodnixbye all18:00
njd001but ok :)18:00
jribchimeracoder: which .iso are you using?18:01
chimeracoderI've tried creating the USB on OS X, but it doesn't seem to be working with unetbootin either18:01
chimeracoderjrib: I've tried with a couple of different isos18:01
jribchimeracoder: which ones? :)18:01
chimeracoderright now I'm using the 32 bit one that I downloaded off of the main site; before that I tried with xubuntu and also with the one htat unetbootin downloads automatically18:01
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chimeracoderon OS X I had to convert it to a dmg or img first, but that didn't work either18:01
root____1okay jrib18:01
jribchimeracoder: there are special ISOs for macs. You can find them here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/18:02
jrib!mac | chimeracoder18:02
ubottuchimeracoder: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages18:02
PsyMarOK, I'm getting desperate -- I have tried "solutions" on installing wine from about 10 different websites, and none have helped18:02
PsyMarI'm trying to install wine on Ubuntu 12.10 x6418:03
jribPsyMar: sudo apt-get install wine  (done)18:03
PsyMarand I keep getting a dependency error18:03
PsyMardone that twenty times, jrib18:03
jribPsyMar: pastebin the error18:03
chimeracoderjrib: as for creating the USB, though, how do I do that on OS X? or do I do that on a Linux machine with unetbootin, etc.?18:03
jribchimeracoder: I don't know what the recommended way is on OS X.  I believe you can use unetbootin, or usb-creator-gtk (only Linux I think), or even dd.  I'll send you the install wiki page18:04
jrib!install | chimeracoder18:04
ubottuchimeracoder: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate18:04
chimeracoderjrib: yeah, I tried that yesterday, but rEFIt wasn't recognizing it18:05
PsyMarjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566749/18:05
jribchimeracoder: you could also just burn a dvd.  I've never used a usb to install on a mac so I can't tell you for sure what to do18:06
chimeracoderjrib: the interwebs seemed to suggest that Lion+ has some issues, but supposedly it can still be done18:06
chimeracoderjrib: no, this is a MBA18:06
chimeracoderno CD/DVD drive18:06
jribchimeracoder: so you used the +mac iso yesterday?18:07
chimeracoderjrib: yup18:07
jribchimeracoder: with unetbootin?18:07
chimeracoderjrib: no, I didn't have my Linux computer with me yesterday, so I tried Disk Utility and dd (on the mac)18:08
chimeracoderone of which required me to create a dmg/img first (some websites pointed to that)18:08
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jribchimeracoder: I'd give unetbootin a try then unless the docs point you elsewhere18:09
chimeracoderjrib: alright, will try18:10
PsyMarjrib: pastebinned my wine installation error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566749/18:10
noregretcan someone tell me where is all the ram, http://i.imgur.com/nBttP06.png18:11
zykotick9!atemyram | noregret18:11
ubottunoregret: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html18:11
jribPsyMar: pastebin output of "apt-cache policy wine1.4"18:11
VivekanandaHello everyone. I am trying to install emacs 24 into ubuntu lucid but not successful yet. The second problem is  I am also getting error messages after running apt get update. Could I request someone to look into it. The result of the apt-get update command and sources list is here --- http://pastebin.com/iShcJSuU18:12
PsyMarjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1566771/18:13
katsumebliskVivekananda: It seems like one of your PPAs doesn't exist.18:14
katsumebliskVivekananda: At least for 10.04.18:14
jrtappersHow do I set ubuntu to use integrated graphics and a graphics card?18:14
katsumebliskjrtappers: Desktop or Laptop? What brand of video card?18:15
Vivekanandakatsumeblisk: which one is it ? I mean which line should I delete ( from the pastebin sources file ?18:15
jrtappersDesktop,  AMD, it works on win 7, so not a hw problem18:16
katsumebliskVivekananda: You could use the Software Sources GUI (found in Synaptic's menus) and remove whatever olivier-berten is.18:16
katsumebliskVivekananda: It's saying it can't find that repo for Lucid.18:16
jribPsyMar: run "sudo apt-get update" before we do anything else and confirm that wine1.4-i386 is still not available.  If so, what is the output of "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures"18:16
chimeracoderjrib: should it be on /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1?18:17
Vivekanandaso isnt the same line present in /apt/sources.list ??18:17
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jrtapperskatsumeblisk, Ubuntu 12.1018:17
VivekanandaI thought is should be right ??18:17
katsumebliskVivekananda: I didn't see it.18:17
katsumebliskjrtappers: That's not what I asked.18:17
jribchimeracoder: don't know.  I would guess /dev/sdb though (make sure that's actually your usb of course)18:17
jrtappers<jrtappers> Desktop,  AMD, it works on win 7, so not a hw problem18:17
katsumebliskjrtappers: Oh18:17
katsumebliskjrtappers: Make sure you mention who you're talking to or it gets missed.18:17
chimeracoderjrib: unetbootin doesn't give me an option for /dev/sdb - just /dev/sdb1, that's why I ask18:18
jrtapperskatsumeblisk, ok18:18
chimeracoderon Arch, I remember that /dev/sdb1 wouldn't work, though18:18
katsumebliskjrtappers: I can't really help then. Sorry. I know a bit about laptops with optimus graphics switching between Intel and nVidia.18:18
chimeracoderbut then again, the Arch Wiki page says that that same method won't work with UEFI, so I don't know if that's even valid here, since I'm using rEFIt18:18
katsumebliskjrtappers: Why do you want to use both?18:18
PsyMarjrib: I could've sworn I ran sudo apt-get update about 5 times by now, but this time it's installing, thanks18:18
jribPsyMar: cool18:19
jrtapperskatsumeblisk, I have 3 screens, 2 off graphics, one of integrated. The REALLY odd thing is that screen 3 shows the shutdown animation, nothing else18:19
_methodsjrtappers: have you gotten the integrated to work at all?18:21
katsumebliskjrtappers: This may help. I just Google'd it. I can't really do much else. Sorry. http://askubuntu.com/questions/108758/runt-integrated-intel-graphics-card-nvidia-pcie-graphics-card18:21
Eldrekhi im trying to install ubuntu for the first time, but the screen just goes black when I select install from grub18:21
Vivekanandakatsumeblisk: After removing the line I get a new error .Weird ---http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM18:21
PsyMarEldrek: are you on a laptop?18:21
PsyMardo you have a brightness key on your keyboard/18:21
PsyMarif so, turn up the brightness, that worked for me18:21
jrtappers_methods, It works on 7, and it shows the shutdown animation, the rest of the time it shows black screen, but not in sleep, so it is getting told to show a black screen18:22
Eldrekyes, but the backlight was on18:22
PsyMarEldrek: The darkest setting on linux is not "dark" but "completely black"18:22
PsyMarat least, on the version of ubuntu and the computer I have18:22
_methodsjrtappers: hrmm i've got 4 mon i'm trying to get working18:22
_methodshaven't found much about getting more than 2 running18:22
Eldrekso its normal for the backlight to be on with no image on screen?18:22
PsyMarI had the same problem, turning up brightness worked18:22
PsyMarI don't know if that's "normal" but that's what happened to me18:22
Eldrekok ill try and report back18:22
Eldrekmy only brightness key is fn + arrows though does that matter18:23
jrtappersOk, secondly, how do I set up an ssh server to only allow reverse ssh connections, nothing else?18:24
chimeracoderjrib: still doesn't work18:25
IndustrialIs there a list of services the Unity environment starts? I would like my window manager set up to be as compatible as possible. Right now I have unstyled gtk for example ...18:25
chimeracoder'Non system disk - Press any key to reboot'18:25
PsyMarEldrek: doubt it matters18:25
Nasserthe weather indicator crashes when searching for location, any suggestion? or if there i any similar app?18:25
VivekanandaAnyone can take a look at my files and tell me why even google download is giving error in the sources file. This is sources for ubuntu lucid and I am runnig apt-get update --- http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM18:25
vfwIndustrial: service18:25
Rishabh_Ditto for the weather app.18:26
Industrialvfw: yes, service.18:26
Nasserthank you18:27
ranmanwhy did I join this channel?18:27
vfwIndustrial: service --status-all18:27
PsyMarranman: in your IRC client's defaults?18:27
jribchimeracoder: there are some fairly explicit instructions here http://maketecheasier.com/install-ubuntu-12-10-in-macbook-air/2012/11/08 .  Is this what you tried yesterday?18:27
vfwIndustrial: See man service18:27
evonHow do I get Ubuntu to add a program I downloaded to add it to the lens and put an icon in the sidebar.  Right now I'm running the program from a directory in my Downloads folder18:27
chimeracoderjrib: yes18:27
Industrialvfw, this is not at desktop level. The system still does this if I am in i3wm, not Unity.18:28
jribchimeracoder: ah, I guess that's mostly the same as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick .  What happens when you try to use it?18:28
Industrialin i3wm my GTK looks is ugly as hell18:28
shuktyHI, i ve a prob. with my 12.10 x64 and driver ati. I m using a laptop and till now np , but today my ati config set my resolution to 4000*4000 and it s kinda impossible 'due i m sure my lapt it s quite ancient and ... how can i set it manually ? tnx dudes18:29
Industrialso what do I need to set up to make it look like in Unity18:29
IndustrialNode scrollbars, etc.18:29
vfwevon: First, I would suggest moving it somewhere else18:29
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:29
Eldrekok, brightness didn't fix it18:29
njd001i like that !18:29
vfwevon: What application is it?18:29
evonvfm what folder would be ideal?18:29
Vivekanandaanone ??18:29
evonvfm: Aptana Studio18:29
zykotick9Eldrek: have you tried nomodeset?18:29
vfwevon: /opt/18:30
jribIndustrial: probably running gnome-settings-daemon will do it... if you don't mind running gnome-settings-daemon.  I just setup ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and ~/.gtkrc-2.018:30
Eldrekzykotick9 I tried typing it in the grub parameters18:30
Vivekananda Anyone can take a look at my files and tell me why even google download is giving error in the sources file. This is sources for ubuntu lucid and I am runnig apt-get update --- http://pastebin.com/HptJ96TM18:30
peeps[work]does anyone here know if i can connect from ubuntu to windows via remote desktop "With Network Level Authentication"18:30
zykotick9Eldrek: ok.  just checking.18:30
PsyMarEldrek: how much RAM does your computer have?18:30
Eldrekzykotick9 is that the correct way?18:30
EaglemanCan i chroot a user to a directory and allow it to use scp?18:30
zykotick9!nomodeset > Eldrek18:31
ubottuEldrek, please see my private message18:31
vfwevon: And then put a symlink to the executable someplace like /usr/bin18:31
peeps[work]i am setting up my windows to enable remote desktop, and there are two options, just not sure if ubuntu supports the more secure one.  "Allow connections from computers running any version of Remote Desktop"   or "Allow connections only from computers running Remote Desktop with Network Level Authentication"18:32
vfwevon: sudo ln -s /opt/newapp/my-new-app-executable /usr/bin/18:32
vfwevon: Just make sure it is unique in name18:32
vfwevon: ... that the command name does not already exist on your system...18:33
EldrekPsyMar 8gb ram18:33
evonVFM ok i did all that using nautilus18:33
jribvfw, evon: good idea to use /usr/local/bin for things you install yourself imo18:34
Eldrekzykotick9 I've been to the page the bot linked me, but it doesn't seem to say how to put the command in?18:34
jribEagleman: yes, search "man sshd_config" for chroot18:34
vfwjrib: Good point.18:34
ioriapeeps[work]: may that is valid only for Win remote desk... i'm not sure18:34
vfwevon: jrib ... but no big deal either way.18:35
zykotick9Eldrek: i'm pretty sure it must be... if it's from the livecd i have no idea, from grub you can use 'e' to edit a line (for a one time test)18:35
Eldrekalright, that's what I did. it didn't do anything different though18:36
vfwevon: As jrib suggests, it would be a bit more proper to place the symlink in /usr/local/bin (as long as it's in your path), (less crowded there too).18:36
evonvfm jrib. ok I will move it there18:36
vfwjrib: Thank you for the correction/constructive criticism18:37
* jrib nods18:37
Eldrekis there nothing else I can try?18:38
Eaglemanjrib, the thing is is that i cannot use scp:  This service allows sftp connections only.18:38