| phoenix_firebrd | good morning everyone | 00:53 |
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| BarkingFish | good morning :) | 00:59 |
| BarkingFish | Well, it almost is. Sometime ago, I had a bug with ndiswrapper not building on dkms - Bug #1023645 - it was fixed in quantal, and it's back in raring :( | 01:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1023645 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu Quantal) "ndiswrapper-dkms 1.57-1ubuntu1: ndiswrapper kernel module failed to build [error: ‘struct kernel_stat’ has no member named ‘cpustat’]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023645 | 01:00 |
| BarkingFish | according to the record there, apparently a fix has been released for raring - and it's not worked. I've had to boot into raring on an old kernel, 3.5.0.22 in order to get ndiswrapper up. | 01:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | BarkingFish: did you update the bug report? | 01:09 |
| BarkingFish | yeah, just left a note on there for Julian, the one who set Fix released | 01:09 |
| BarkingFish | also mistakenly called him Julius :P | 01:10 |
| BarkingFish | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/1023645/comments/31 | 01:10 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1023645 in ndiswrapper (Ubuntu Quantal) "ndiswrapper-dkms 1.57-1ubuntu1: ndiswrapper kernel module failed to build [error: ‘struct kernel_stat’ has no member named ‘cpustat’]" [High,Confirmed] | 01:10 |
| phoenix_firebrd | BarkingFish: whats the kernel version in which bug is present | 01:10 |
| BarkingFish | i wish ubottu wouldn't keep doing that :) | 01:10 |
| BarkingFish | 3.8.0.1 | 01:11 |
| BarkingFish | *3.8.0-1 | 01:11 |
| BarkingFish | brb | 01:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | BarkingFish: it seems someoneelse has posted a commont the same sort | 01:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | later | 01:11 |
| BarkingFish | ok phoenix_firebrd, cheers. | 01:14 |
| BarkingFish | It might be good if I post some logs of what i'm getting told when I try to build it manually or with dkms. It got fixed in quantal, i don't understand what could have gone wrong in the space of 6 months and no upgrades :/ | 01:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | BarkingFish: past the log | 01:19 |
| phoenix_firebrd | *paste | 01:19 |
| BarkingFish | ok, one moment | 01:19 |
| phoenix_firebrd | back in 5 mins | 01:25 |
| BarkingFish | ok | 01:27 |
| BarkingFish | i need to reboot too. I think i may be doing something wrong :) | 01:27 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: O_O | 01:41 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: morning | 01:43 |
| shadeslayer | hi phoenix_firebrd | 01:43 |
| shadeslayer | morning to you too | 01:43 |
| shadeslayer | and finally someone I can say morning to at a sane time | 01:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | did you succeed with the libkolab tests? | 01:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | :) | 01:43 |
| shadeslayer | somewhat | 01:44 |
| shadeslayer | as yofel mentioned, the tests open kompare | 01:44 |
| shadeslayer | and tried to make kompare quit using a couple of methods | 01:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: so the developers thought we should be building the source without the pbuilder? | 01:45 |
| shadeslayer | dbus, kquitapp ( which is basically just another wrapper over dbus for KDE apps ), using kill `pidof kompare` .... nothing worked | 01:45 |
| shadeslayer | I even tried extracting the dbus address from /proc/pid_of_komare/environ | 01:46 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: usually tests don't wait for an app to be closed | 01:46 |
| shadeslayer | it's not unusal to have tests that require X running | 01:47 |
| shadeslayer | but it's unusual to open an app and keep waiting for it to be closed | 01:47 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: why is this written pbuilder unfriendly | 01:47 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: because pbuilder is just a packaging tool used by packagers | 01:48 |
| shadeslayer | it holds no significance when writing code :) | 01:48 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: i know but the devs know that we will be testing with pbuilder right? | 01:48 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 01:49 |
| BarkingFish | hi again. | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | pbuilder is just a packaging tool | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | hey BarkingFish | 01:49 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: so this is why Riddell is not using pbuilder | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: to each his own :) | 01:49 |
| BarkingFish | hi shadeslayer :) | 01:49 |
| phoenix_firebrd | BarkingFish: got the log? | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | you can use sbuild or whatever | 01:49 |
| shadeslayer | pbuilder is just the de facto standard in Ubuntu land for build packages | 01:50 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: the testing would be easy if i use a vm with a full install right? | 01:50 |
| shadeslayer | not really | 01:50 |
| BarkingFish | the error, phoenix_firebrd - i forgot and did it in a tty, so couldn't copy / paste | 01:50 |
| phoenix_firebrd | BarkingFish: ok | 01:51 |
| shadeslayer | you could just add your ppa, install the kolab stuff, try it out and remove the PPA | 01:51 |
| shadeslayer | that's what I usually do | 01:51 |
| BarkingFish | the upshot is, i can't install manually, because apparently it can't find KBUILD - it needs me to supply the path to KBUILD when i try to manually make ndiswrapper. | 01:51 |
| BarkingFish | and i forgot entirely how the hell to get dkms to do anything :) | 01:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: but the package is only done for raring and i have 12.10 | 01:51 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | then setup a VM | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | though you could just use a pbuilder for that too | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | unless it's a graphical app, in which case it's better to do it in a VM | 01:52 |
| shadeslayer | see pbuilders --login option | 01:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: is there a way to take a snapshot of the base image of pbuilder? | 01:54 |
| shadeslayer | huh? | 01:54 |
| shadeslayer | snapshot? | 01:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: i saw that already | 01:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: ya if i use save after login, it will update the base image , but if i want to have the dfault base, i have to create it again right? | 01:55 |
| shadeslayer | then don't use --save-after-login? | 01:56 |
| shadeslayer | just do a --login | 01:56 |
| shadeslayer | and the changes won't be saved | 01:56 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: if i want some packages to be installed before the pbuilder starts building | 01:56 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ? | 01:57 |
| shadeslayer | can you give me a usecase? | 01:57 |
| shadeslayer | as to why you would want to do that? I can advise better that way | 01:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: example i want dbus and dbus-x11 to be installed | 01:57 |
| shadeslayer | why? | 01:58 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: in case an app needs as a requirement | 01:58 |
| shadeslayer | then you add it to Build-Depends | 01:58 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: no not as a dep , but for some other purpose | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | define 'other purpose' | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | for eg. I added xvfb and other stuff to Build-Depends for libkolab tests | 01:59 |
| shadeslayer | even though it's not required to compile libkolab, it's required to run the tests | 02:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: tell me how can i install something before pbuilder starts | 02:00 |
| shadeslayer | I still don't see why you'd want to do that :P | 02:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: tell me | 02:01 |
| shadeslayer | because let's say you do it, that change will be local, and when you upload it to Launchpad, the build will fail | 02:01 |
| shadeslayer | because it doesn't have that dep installed | 02:01 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: well .. you could write a hook, or install it by hand and use --save-after-login | 02:01 |
| phoenix_firebrd | i min | 02:02 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: sorry i was on the phone | 02:08 |
| shadeslayer | np | 02:08 |
| shadeslayer | I'm about to leave though, in another 10 minutes or so | 02:08 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: what you say is right and i know that too, but i want to know how to do that | 02:09 |
| shadeslayer | ok, like I said, 2 ways | 02:09 |
| shadeslayer | one way keeps the chroot clean | 02:09 |
| shadeslayer | the other is quicker | 02:09 |
| BarkingFish | i'm going to be going soon, but if anyone can help me with the dkms thing, your assistance would be appreciated. | 02:09 |
| shadeslayer | BarkingFish: tried #ubuntu-x ? | 02:10 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: we can't login to the env when pbuilder running? | 02:10 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: sure you can | 02:10 |
| BarkingFish | I want to run raring with what it came with - not pollute it by having to use an old kernel, so i need to either get dkms to build ndiswrapper, or be able to build it manually. | 02:10 |
| BarkingFish | shadeslayer, no, i didn't even know it existed | 02:10 |
| BarkingFish | :) | 02:10 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: sec | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | 02:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: so there is not way of running or installing an app expect to add to deps | 02:11 |
| BarkingFish | that's for xorg apparently | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | read the section on Pbuilder Hooks | 02:11 |
| BarkingFish | this isn't anything to do with xorg from what I can see :) | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | BarkingFish: but isn't DKMS related to X ? | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 02:11 |
| shadeslayer | dunno then, sorry | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | there's also #ubuntu-kernel | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | so *maybe* that helps? | 02:12 |
| BarkingFish | aha | 02:12 |
| BarkingFish | you bet it does | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | awesome | 02:12 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: I don't follow your question | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | when you install an app, it should pull in everything it requires | 02:13 |
| shadeslayer | there's a Depends field explicitly for that | 02:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: tell me how can i install dbus and dbus-x11 before pbuilder starts testing apart from adding it to deps and and with out using the save after login option | 02:14 |
| shadeslayer | write a hook | 02:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: thats nice | 02:15 |
| shadeslayer | see the wiki page I just sent you a couple of lines back | 02:15 |
| shadeslayer | and note the hook names | 02:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: i am reading that | 02:16 |
| shadeslayer | the hook names signify at what point in the build they're run | 02:16 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: so you wrote a hook to kill kompare? | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | no | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | writing a hook is not feasible for that because that hook is not there in the build | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | so I tried killing it via debian/rules | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | note that hooks are only local | 02:17 |
| shadeslayer | the buildd has no hooks / extra packages installed | 02:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: ya, i am asking it purely for local purposes only | 02:18 |
| shadeslayer | it will only read debian/control and install the packages it reads from the Build-Dep line | 02:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: for testing my things | 02:18 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 02:18 |
| shadeslayer | anyway, gtg | 02:18 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 02:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: bye | 02:19 |
| jussi | Morning ladies and gents | 07:25 |
| highvoltage | hello jussi | 07:56 |
| jussi | gday highvoltage! | 07:57 |
| jussi | highvoltage: hows things? been a while since we talked... | 07:59 |
| highvoltage | jussi: oh well | 08:00 |
| highvoltage | jussi: been tough but I have a feeling everything is going to be ok | 08:01 |
| highvoltage | jussi: and you? | 08:01 |
| jussi | highvoltage: yeah, doing ok, kid growing, work going ok. | 08:01 |
| yofel_ | phoenix_firebrd: hi, as shadeslayer said, installing packages by hooks is usually not recommended as it's purely local, but look at the B20icecc hook as an example | 08:41 |
| yofel_ | as those packages only make sense locally they're installed by hook | 08:41 |
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| phoenix_firebrd | yofel_: ya i know, but its like the "goto" | 08:41 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: for local personal testing purposes | 08:42 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i have some doubts on using amazon ec2 | 08:42 |
| yofel | sure, it's just that you should usually keep your setup as clean as possible to use different pbuilder images | 08:42 |
| yofel | I have a couple of quantal images with different setup for example | 08:42 |
| yofel | (different sets of PPA's added etc.) | 08:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 08:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: how much does it cost the community if i use the cloud for an hour? | 08:43 |
| yofel | you'll have to ask Riddell what kind of ec2 instance he's using and then look up the prices | 08:44 |
| yofel | it's usually not that much though, and a higher productivity is usually woth it | 08:44 |
| yofel | *worth | 08:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i am using it past 3 hrs and i am worried about the cost | 08:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: building fast-md5 now | 08:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: working with the ec2 is bliss except the char echo speed is slow because of my show internet connection | 08:46 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: probably with a 400 ms delay | 08:47 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: well, the pricing is here: http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/ but I don't know where the instance is nor what kind | 08:50 |
| yofel | meh, they still only accept credit cards :( | 08:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: this one is a partial log http://paste.kde.org/656090/ | 08:55 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: fast-md5 build fails | 08:55 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: from the log the resulting output is a jar | 08:56 |
| yofel | the new build.xml has no jar target, so the error is right | 09:00 |
| yofel | I know 0 about ant so can't really help here | 09:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok i will drop this build process and exit the ec2 session | 09:01 |
| yofel | make sure to power it down if you know that you don't need it anymore | 09:02 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: dont it affect someone else? | 09:02 |
| yofel | I don't think those sessions are shared, you'll have to ask Riddell though | 09:02 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: yesterday he asked me if he can shutdown , i am confused | 09:03 |
| yofel | uhm, they charge by runtime, so he was wondering whether you were still using it before he shuts it down | 09:04 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: so can i shutdown now? | 09:04 |
| yofel | let's wait for him if you're not sure | 09:04 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: in that case i will just exit the session | 09:05 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: did you review the packages in my ppa? | 09:06 |
| yofel | I did for kolab | 09:06 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: I am planning to remove the ssh and gpg keys, will that affect the packages in the ppa? | 09:06 |
| yofel | I'm not familiar with the others so it'll have to wait till the evening if you want *me* to review them | 09:07 |
| yofel | I can't upload them anyway | 09:07 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: nope, only new uploads/commits | 09:07 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: so removing the present ssh and gpg keys from launchapd and from my local doesnot affect the packages in the ppa correct? | 09:08 |
| yofel | whatever is already on launchpad isn't affected. The keys are only used to identify you to launchpad from outside of the WebUI | 09:11 |
| yofel | the ppa has it's own signature key for the binary packages | 09:12 |
| yofel | *its | 09:12 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 09:12 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: can you recommend some packages that needs priority from here http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/uehs/no_updated.html | 09:13 |
| yofel | hm, I don't recognise pretty much all packages on that list, so there isn't really anything from us left | 09:18 |
| yofel | at least nothing with a working watch file | 09:18 |
| yofel | (someone remind me to fix the one in kile) | 09:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i will remind you. | 09:19 |
| yofel | let's see if mom has something | 09:20 |
| yofel | https://merges.ubuntu.com/ | 09:20 |
| yofel | (universe.html) | 09:20 |
| yofel | Riddell: is koffice-l10n still used by something? | 09:21 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: go merge quassel ;) | 09:22 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: is that the merge request dashboard ? | 09:23 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: it's the auto-generated list of packages that could be merged with newer versions from debian | 09:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: so i should pick from here | 09:24 |
| yofel | well, I'm not a merge expert, or at least not an expert at teaching it, and quassel seems to be the only thing from our packageset in there | 09:24 |
| yofel | let's see if it's worth i | 09:24 |
| yofel | *it | 09:24 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok , shall i try? | 09:25 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: doesn't look like it's really worth it on first glance, but feel free to | 09:30 |
| yofel | I couldn't find the classic merge guide, the udd one is here and usually works too: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-merging.html | 09:30 |
| yofel | just use debianlp:sid/quassel as debian branch | 09:31 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 09:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i can do this later? | 09:32 |
| yofel | there's not a lot to merge here, so it should be not too hard | 09:32 |
| yofel | sure | 09:32 |
| yofel | if you won't do it it'll probably be forgotten for a while | 09:33 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: why? | 09:33 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: one thing though. If you do start on it, mention that in the (invisible) comment field on https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | 09:33 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: the debian package doesn't really add anything except some maintenance changes compared to our package | 09:34 |
| yofel | so usually nothing I would spend my time on. But good as an example | 09:34 |
| yofel | (good as an example that actually yields something useful) | 09:34 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i will try this with the help of you or someelse | 09:35 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i am new to this | 09:35 |
| yofel | sure. Once you did the merge you've seen most of our packaging activities I think. Except for packaging something from scratch | 09:37 |
| yofel | not sure if we have something in the queue for that | 09:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: i have done packaging from scratch , like the the nepomuk metadata extractor | 09:38 |
| yofel | ah good | 09:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: which reminds me about the python optimization, did you do it? | 09:40 |
| yofel | no, better look for someone else as that looks time consuming from what I've seen and I don't have that much spare time currently | 09:40 |
| yofel | (or at least am not motivated enough to spend a few days on that) | 09:41 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok, the python thing takes 1h 10 min for compiling the ontologies , thats not good right? | 09:42 |
| yofel | I tried it, I know, took half an hour even on my i7 | 09:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | brb | 09:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | going to building simple-http | 09:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: what happended to libkolabxml? | 09:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ah its merged | 09:58 |
| allee | afiestas: debian pkgers asked: what's the mininal version of kdelibs, kdeworkspace that required for (lib)kscreen? | 10:00 |
| yofel | allee: CMakeLists.txt should tell you that | 10:01 |
| yofel | but doesn't yay | 10:02 |
| yofel | allee: I don't think we've tried to build it with anything older than 4.9 | 10:02 |
| yofel | allee: kdeworkspace doesn't seem to be needed though | 10:03 |
| yofel | afiestas: about kscreen: <pinotree> why does it require qjson 0.8? | 10:19 |
| afiestas | allee: no idea tbh | 10:29 |
| afiestas | but anything 4.9 and greater works | 10:29 |
| afiestas | should work in 4.8 as well I guess | 10:30 |
| afiestas | but only 49 and above is supported | 10:30 |
| afiestas | yofel: because it does? :33 | 10:30 |
| afiestas | qjson 0.7.1 is not able to properly serialize floats | 10:30 |
| yofel | ah ok | 10:30 |
| afiestas | tbh, getting tired of having to asnwer these questions :s | 10:30 |
| afiestas | I mean, it is like the 5th time I do, maybe I should document it somewhere | 10:31 |
| yofel | heh | 10:31 |
| allee | afiestas: can't be wrong :-) | 10:31 |
| vassie | Riddell: Hello, new package uploaded ;) | 10:39 |
| vassie | Riddell: In the build queue, will keep an eye on it | 10:44 |
| Riddell | good stuff vassie | 11:22 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: a basic ec2 machine costs 8.5UScents an hour | 11:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: is that hi or low? | 11:26 |
| Riddell | it's cheap for an hour, it's expensive to leave it on for a year | 11:27 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: should i shutdown after finishing my work or just exit the session? | 11:28 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: yes you should terminate it with "poweroff" | 11:28 |
| Riddell | or by telling me | 11:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: will it affect anyone else | 11:29 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: shutting down a machine? depends if anyone else is using the machine | 11:36 |
| Riddell | they're not usuall shared, the whole point is it's a quick way to get an isolated environment | 11:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: ok | 11:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: in that case whenever i need, i will ask and after finishing my work i will leave a message for you or if no one else is using i will shutdown | 11:38 |
| Riddell | yep | 11:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: the user ubuntu is public? | 11:39 |
| Riddell | no, when I start a machine it has an ssh key only I have for access and I can add other people's ssh keys | 11:39 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: so you added mine from launchpad? | 11:40 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: I think i am asking the wrong question | 11:41 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: yes I did | 11:42 |
| Riddell | vassie: best to bump the ppa version no, 0.9.2-0ubuntu2~ppa1 -> 0.9.2-0ubuntu2~ppa2 | 11:42 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: I need my ssh key files in there, what should i do | 11:42 |
| Riddell | phoenix_firebrd: I'll add it when starting up a machine for you | 11:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: thank you | 11:43 |
| vassie | Riddell: ah, thought i had to bump the ubuntu number | 11:50 |
| Riddell | vassie: either works but best to bump the ~ppa one in a ppa | 11:50 |
| vassie | Riddell: shall i cancel the current build and resubmit? | 11:50 |
| Riddell | vassie: no no leave it | 11:50 |
| vassie | Riddell: k | 11:51 |
| vassie | Riddell: hope this one works, what comes after? runtime deps and backports? | 11:52 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Riddell: I am not using the ec2 now | 11:55 |
| phoenix_firebrd | bbl | 12:03 |
| Riddell | anyone have a UEFI secure boot computer thing? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | or know what to buy for one? | 12:18 |
| yofel | Riddell: I think anything that's certified for Window 8 should work for that | 12:21 |
| Riddell | hmm this says not easy to identify http://superuser.com/questions/396905/how-to-identify-uefi-capable-laptops | 12:49 |
| xnox | Riddell: you can download OVMF and set it up in KVM | 13:07 |
| xnox | Riddell: these instructions are the best https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SecureBoot | 13:08 |
| xnox | note that it doesn't save state, so one can provision SB keys and "reboot" with SB mode, but not shutdown kvm & start again. | 13:08 |
| Riddell | hmm, lots to read | 13:21 |
| Riddell | basse? basse who made konqi? | 13:24 |
| basse | hi. just wanted so say congratulations for kubuntu developers. just finished upgrading from natty to oneiric to precice to quantal | 13:24 |
| Riddell | that's quite an upgrade! | 13:25 |
| basse | and it all just worked :) ok. well, lost wireless for a bit, but that was just wrong drivers and easy fix. and on the process, got 40gigs more space on my harddrive, which is kind of strange. but i like it :) | 13:25 |
| basse | Riddell: yes, thats the same basse | 13:25 |
| Riddell | welcome back :) | 13:26 |
| basse | heh thanks. i've been here all the time tho.. :) maybe a bit more on the blender side of things. | 13:26 |
| Riddell | you can blend us a kubuntu raring ringtail to say thanks :) | 13:28 |
| basse | what is that? | 13:30 |
| Riddell | the codename for 13.04, a ringtail lemur | 13:31 |
| Riddell | which is raring to go | 13:31 |
| basse | cute | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 13:33 |
| basse | Riddell: so it's like the kde logo and something around that.. looking at the previous logos | 13:34 |
| basse | well.. not kde.. but the gear thing | 13:35 |
| Riddell | basse: what is? | 13:36 |
| basse | logo.. | 13:36 |
| Riddell | basse: the kubuntu logo not "gear thing" :) | 13:37 |
| basse | :) | 13:37 |
| Riddell | anyone fancy testing usb-creator-kde for python 3? | 13:37 |
| Riddell | yofel: I thought I deleted koffice-l10n | 13:38 |
| Riddell | hmm apparently not | 13:38 |
| basse | you wouldn't know anything about the grahic tablet settings in new kubuntu? | 13:40 |
| Riddell | yofel: package removed | 13:41 |
| Riddell | basse: only that we added the wacom system settings module | 13:41 |
| Riddell | but it hasn't got much testing | 13:41 |
| basse | i'm running my carefully crafted dual-monitor-swapping script .. and i a bit afraid of trying this nice new tool that basicly looks like that would do the same thing.. | 13:41 |
| basse | except hotkey.. | 13:41 |
| basse | wondering if it saves over some settings.. or uses xinput.. | 13:42 |
| cyphermox | shadeslayer: poke | 15:44 |
| cyphermox | shadeslayer: looks like I'll be officially postponing working on VPN plugin install automatisation | 15:45 |
| cyphermox | (which means unofficially I'll get to it eventually, just not in paid work) | 15:45 |
| cyphermox | feel free to hack at it and ask questions though, if you want to patch that early | 15:45 |
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| yofel | JontheEchidna: is there some way to run an a command after an apt-get dist-upgrade (or any apt command) finishes? Or are there only dpkg triggers? | 16:01 |
| yofel | I was wondering if we could have some popup after a kde upgrade that people should please restart their session. | 16:01 |
| yofel | Not sure if the current notification helper behaviour is best for that | 16:01 |
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| JontheEchidna | yofel: it's pretty much limited to dpkg triggers | 18:05 |
| JontheEchidna | as far as I know | 18:05 |
| yofel | hm, ok, thanks :/ | 18:12 |
| yofel | killing ksmserver is a bad idea | 18:23 |
| JontheEchidna | heh | 18:36 |
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| shadeslayer | yofel: ack | 20:19 |
| shadeslayer | cyphermox: re VPN stuff, I'll look at it next month | 20:19 |
| cyphermox | ack! | 20:20 |
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