| KlfJoat | Does anyone care to look at bug 1102797 for me and make sure I did it right? It's my first time, so be gentle. <grins> | 03:48 |
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| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1102797 in sane-backends (Ubuntu) "Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 does not work after fresh install of 12.10 x64" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102797 | 03:48 |
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| om26er | where to report bugs for cdimage.ubuntu.com ? | 15:26 |
| ogra_ | against ubuntu-cdimage | 15:27 |
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| psusi | wasn't there a tag to make the bot stop messing with bugs in the linux package? | 18:38 |
| ogra_ | bot-stop-nagging ? | 18:42 |
| ogra_ | or some such | 18:42 |
| psusi | that's it | 18:44 |
| bluefoxxx | this is probably a better channel than #-devel | 19:17 |
| bluefoxxx | is it appropriate to file bugs in the distribution found? | 19:17 |
| bluefoxxx | Or should I be working my way upstream, checking for behavior in Debian, and filing from top down? | 19:17 |
| bluefoxxx | Particularly in this case apache2 comes with a configuration file that includes a global Listen directive | 19:17 |
| bluefoxxx | this is 1) useless; 2) stupid; 3) problematic if you don't run a VirtualHost on port 80 but DO run other services on port 80 | 19:18 |
| bluefoxxx | Those of us pushing vhosts out with configuration management software can generally avoid messing with httpd.conf except for that | 19:18 |
| bluefoxxx | anyway | 19:19 |
| bluefoxxx | trying to decide if I need to file with Launchpad or with Debian's bug tracker | 19:19 |
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| hggdh | bluefoxxx: if it affects Ubuntu, then you can open the bug here. If it is also present in Debian, you should _also_ open one in Debian, and cross-ref both | 19:46 |
| TheLordOfTime | what hggdh said :) | 19:47 |
| * TheLordOfTime was ninja'd. | 19:47 | |
| hggdh | (it is better to have upstream fix an issue, always, and it minimises future merges) | 19:47 |
| hggdh | TheLordOfTime: :-) | 19:47 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, you pulled the words out of my mouth about upstream... i do that with nginx all the time :P | 19:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | SEND: bug upstream to nginx trac. WAIT: for patch. APPLY: patch for SRUing. | 19:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | ::p | 19:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | speaking of which, one of my nginx servers died... o.O | 19:48 |
| hggdh | sometimes I *do* pay attention to this channel ;-) | 19:48 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, :P | 19:48 |
| bluefoxxx | hggdh, I was more in the mind that I'm not a strictly Debian proper user, it's an extra step for me to go back | 19:59 |
| bluefoxxx | and interested in if it's fairly likely that opening an Ubuntu bug will get the changes propagated back to Debian if it affects Debian, due to collaboration | 20:00 |
| bluefoxxx | or if I should spin up a VM and test everything and see if the same bugs come from upstream | 20:00 |
| TheLordOfTime | typically, what i'd do is look at the debian package... | 20:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | and see if it exists there. | 20:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | already * | 20:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | usually i find already-filed upstream ones, but i also usually file bugs in debian if its not already filed - usually including which version of the package is affected, or the nearest equivalent one. | 20:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | and of course, testing the upstream package :p | 20:02 |
| TheLordOfTime | (of course, for PHP5 and nginx, i don't have to do that, its already done by others... xD) (my specialization is server packages :P) | 20:02 |
| hggdh | but you are not *required* to open it on Debian. It would help, but it is not necessary. Eventually, someone will. | 20:02 |
| hggdh | meanwhile, you wait ;-) | 20:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | yep | 20:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | ... okay, either apt-mirror hates me or my system is broken.......... | 20:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | :/ | 20:03 |
| antiface | Hi, I'm new to this. Am I supposed to be Triaged first before coming here? | 20:06 |
| TheLordOfTime | no, we can help you regardless of if the bug is triaged or not :) | 20:06 |
| TheLordOfTime | although hggdh'll probably be more help than I right now | 20:06 |
| * TheLordOfTime is debugging apt-mirror | 20:06 | |
| antiface | Ok. Thanks. I just switched to Ubuntu less than a month ago, so it's all very new to me. :) | 20:07 |
| antiface | I'm still gathering together a proper documentation of the problem anyway.. and it's something that's been discussed a good deal on forums.. | 20:09 |
| yofel | TheLordOfTime: what's wrong with your apt-mirror? | 20:09 |
| * TheLordOfTime reads the logs | 20:09 | |
| * TheLordOfTime facedesks | 20:09 | |
| TheLordOfTime | lolololololololololololol... its erroring out because one of the mirrors that it mirrors is down xD | 20:10 |
| yofel | heh | 20:10 |
| * TheLordOfTime repoints the offline-mirror entry to the US regional archive | 20:10 | |
| TheLordOfTime | s/regional/country code/ | 20:11 |
| antiface | There must be a resource out there, a site or IRC channel for people having a hard time with audio setups? | 20:11 |
| bluefoxxx | ok | 20:13 |
| bluefoxxx | That should be a very low importance but I can't triage my own bugs. | 20:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | triage requires bugcontrol usually, which bug? | 20:13 |
| bluefoxxx | 1105411 | 20:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | LP Bug 1105411 | 20:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1105411 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "apache2 default conf file contains Listen directive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1105411 | 20:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | bugs usually need to be confirmed before we triage, but i agree on the low importance | 20:14 |
| * TheLordOfTime sets the bug as Low Importance | 20:14 | |
| bluefoxxx | It's low priority because it's effectively meaningless housekeeping minimizing the configuration | 20:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | agreed, which is why i set it :) | 20:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, which releases are affected? | 20:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | all of em? | 20:17 |
| bluefoxxx | 12.10 last I looked | 20:17 |
| bluefoxxx | I stumbled over it trying to deploy puppetmaster-passenger from a puppet module | 20:17 |
| bluefoxxx | couldn't figure out how to get port 80 closed | 20:18 |
| bluefoxxx | manager stumbled over the same issue in RHEL6 a few hours ago because Apache was binding to 80 and breaking another server software ;p | 20:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | sounds like upstream issues? | 20:18 |
| bluefoxxx | (I guess it affects RHEL/Fedora too) | 20:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | if its in Ubuntu its likely in Debian, *checks debian BTS to see whether this is filed there* | 20:19 |
| bluefoxxx | well, the location is in httpd.conf in RHEL and ports.conf in Ubuntu, but it's probably in Ubuntu because it's in Debian | 20:19 |
| bluefoxxx | hence why I asked if I should test this in Debian and file there earlier, which I don't have time to do at the precise moment and which requires me to figure out where to get a Debian install ISO :) | 20:19 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'd file in both Ubuntu and Debian then. i usually file in ubuntu first and triage it up to Debian where necessary, and sometimes all the way to upstream :P | 20:21 |
| yofel | ports.conf from SID: http://paste.kde.org/656618 | 20:22 |
| yofel | so feel free to bug them | 20:22 |
| * TheLordOfTime triages to Debian | 20:22 | |
| bluefoxxx | yofel, is it inconceivable to keep Debian packages in git? | 20:23 |
| bluefoxxx | like, the build tree, sans the source code | 20:23 |
| yofel | uh, I think the debian folks do that | 20:23 |
| bluefoxxx | I don't remember, but i thought that the source of a deb file was without any source code, and that it knew where the code came from, got the tar.gz, extracted it, built, packaged, etc. | 20:23 |
| bluefoxxx | is that still correct? | 20:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | yofel, 2.2.22-12, right? | 20:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | (what you found it on) | 20:23 |
| bluefoxxx | yofel, cool, I should find their git server so I can just read through stuff there :) | 20:24 |
| yofel | bluefoxxx: not really, a normal debian source package is source+packaging as it doesn't need a VCS at all | 20:24 |
| bluefoxxx | yofel, it's notable that the Listen 443 thing is broken in newest httpd anyway | 20:24 |
| yofel | but there is a git plugin I believe that does exactly what you're saying | 20:25 |
| bluefoxxx | I think. SOmething is. | 20:25 |
| bluefoxxx | Like, SSL won't inherit SSL configuration directives from the global space in virtualhost anymore, which is funny. It broke our Web server here when I tried to migrate it. 8) | 20:25 |
| bluefoxxx | but I know awk | 20:25 |
| yofel | TheLordOfTime: 2.2.22-12 yeah | 20:25 |
| bluefoxxx | which is Unix kungfu | 20:25 |
| * yofel solved *that* with c&p as he only had one host there | 20:26 | |
| yofel | but yeah, I did notice that -.- | 20:26 |
| yofel | bluefoxxx: I think you're looking for http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-apache/apache2.git;a=summary btw | 20:28 |
| yofel | seems to be the full source too though | 20:28 |
| bluefoxxx | excellent | 20:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | i shall return, i have to disappear because of reboot :/ | 20:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | yofel, bluefoxxx, bug sent to debian. Debian Bug 698967 has been linked to the Ubuntu bug. | 20:47 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 698967 in apache2 "apache2 default conf file contains Listen directive" [Minor,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/698967 | 20:47 |
| TheLordOfTime | (The LP bug is LP Bug 1105411) | 20:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1105411 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "apache2 default conf file contains Listen directive" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1105411 | 20:48 |
| * TheLordOfTime goes off to beat his head into the wall because of Windows being stupid. | 20:51 | |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, still here? | 21:12 |
| bluefoxxx | TheLordOfTime, barely | 21:34 |
| bluefoxxx | TheLordOfTime, messing with a media server on CentOS6 | 21:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=698967 | 21:35 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 698967 in apache2 "apache2 default conf file contains Listen directive" [Minor,Open] | 21:35 |
| bluefoxxx | Cannot wait for CentOS7 | 21:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, well if you can divert your attention | 21:35 |
| TheLordOfTime | someonie responded on the debian bug | 21:35 |
| bluefoxxx | because for a few days, RHEL will not be so much of a pile of crap. | 21:35 |
| bluefoxxx | TheLordOfTime, from what I can tell the Listen directive is completely unneeded at all | 21:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | if you have email you can respond :P | 21:36 |
| bluefoxxx | ok | 21:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | email 698967@bugs.debian.org to respond. you may want to point out if you're the poster of the ubuntu bug too | 21:37 |
| TheLordOfTime | since all i did was "triage" it to debian | 21:37 |
| bluefoxxx | TheLordOfTime, I must have missed something somewhere. Trying to figure out what I did. | 21:39 |
| TheLordOfTime | :) | 21:39 |
| bluefoxxx | TheLordOfTime, I think I'm completely wrong :( | 21:40 |
| bluefoxxx | Apache listens on whatever it's told to listen on, whether or not there is actually a virtual host listening there. It doesn't cry that you have a VirtualHost listening on another port that it's not listening on, doesn't open the port, and will cry if you're not listening on any ports. Blah. | 21:41 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, so... notabug and i should have it invalid'd in debian and invalid it in ubuntu? :P | 21:43 |
| * TheLordOfTime yawns | 21:43 | |
| TheLordOfTime | apache, while being a server package, isn't on my list of favorite packages :P | 21:43 |
| bluefoxxx | probably. | 21:45 |
| bluefoxxx | responded | 21:54 |
| bluefoxxx | made a fool of myself now | 22:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 22:15 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, don't forget to mark that on the debian bug as well, 698967@bugs.debian.org :P | 22:17 |
| bluefoxxx | i replied to the debian bug | 22:17 |
| bluefoxxx | i should probably put something on the launchpad bug | 22:17 |
| bluefoxxx | or not do this crap while I'm doing 40 other things at work | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | someone already did on the lp bug | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 22:17 |
| bluefoxxx | I have too much negative karma to make mistakes :| | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/1105411/comments/2 <-- you? | 22:17 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 1105411 in apache2 (Debian) "apache2 default conf file contains Listen directive" [Unknown,New] | 22:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, i'm going to assume that comment was yours. | 22:20 |
| bluefoxxx | DA | 22:20 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm forwarding to debian, with the suggestion to mark it as invalid or similar. | 22:20 |
| bluefoxxx | i think it got there by way of e-mail to the list | 22:25 |
| bluefoxxx | ... | 22:25 |
| bluefoxxx | I have no idea what I did, all I know is I saw an e-mail and I hit reply. | 22:25 |
| bluefoxxx | TheLordOfTime, just send them 'nevermind, end user is incompetent' | 22:26 |
| bluefoxxx | that should get the point across | 22:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 22:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | doesn't matter. | 22:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | i've already sent the message along :) | 22:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | we tend to be nicer than just "INCOMPETENT! </banrifle?>" | 22:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | :P | 22:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | bluefoxxx, i suggested that they close the bug as won'tfix or notabug. | 22:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | they did so :) | 22:34 |
| TheLordOfTime | and i politely suggested that :) | 22:34 |
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