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pittiGood morning06:06
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jibelGood morning08:04
chrisccoulsongood morning everyone08:41
didrockshey chrisccoulson08:50
chrisccoulsonhi didrocks, how are you?08:55
didrockschrisccoulson: quite busy… still fighting with autopilot tests not running08:55
chrisccoulsondidrocks, trying to figure out why my tests aren't working properly (https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-ppa-adt-ubuntu_mozilla_daily_ppa-firefox-trunk/) ;)08:56
chrisccoulsonhi Laney09:04
Laneyhappy friday ;-)09:04
seb128hey desktopers09:10
Laneyhey seb12809:11
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looldidrocks: Just a heads up that I've fixed the smem issue we were seeing; it wasn't amd64 specific, but related to latest 3.8 kernels09:40
didrockslool: interesting… good to know at least09:42
didrocksseb128 wasn't up to date then :)09:42
seb128didrocks, weird, I'm uptodate09:43
didrocksseb128: come on, you are so 2012! :-)09:43
* didrocks hugs seb12809:43
seb128well, 3.5.0-18-generic09:43
seb128what's the current one?09:43
loolseb128: 3.809:43
didrocksyep, 3.8 here09:44
seb128k, I likely got the -generic binary dropped or something09:44
seb128didrocks, lool: thanks ;-)09:44
* seb128 installs "linux"09:45
loolit's fortunate that the nexus 7 kernel was lagging behind to09:45
BigWhaleHmmm I think that GIR for Gstreamer is broken in 13.04 ...09:47
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1099942 in Kazam Screencaster "Can't record video in any format" [Critical,Confirmed]09:48
LaneyBigWhale: interesting10:03
LaneyBigWhale: I get that when I start with a quantal chroot and then upgrade python-gi to raring's version10:03
LaneyBigWhale: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/random-scripts/gst-broken10:08
BigWhaleLaney, that's seriously broken yes ...10:11
BigWhaleThanks for confirming it's not just me. :)10:11
Laneywant to file it with pygobject upstream? :-)10:11
BigWhaleI'll do that yes.10:13
* Laney subscribes10:14
BigWhaleLaney, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69251510:23
ubot2Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Run time error trying to register a type" [Critical,Unconfirmed]10:23
chrisccoulsondoes everyone else see black lines with this link? http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/reftests/reftest-sanity/filter-1.xhtml10:26
Laneyfour boxes, alternating filled and outline10:26
chrisccoulsonhmmm :/10:27
chrisccoulsoni wonder why it appears all white when i run the actual tests?10:28
seb128chrisccoulson, what Laney said10:30
tkamppeterlarsu, seb128, I have discovered a problem: In Raring we have switched the printer setup tool from s-c-p to g-c-c. The new g-c-c does not auto-download drivers from OpenPrinting, this functionality must be introduced as completely new feature. Askink upstream for implementing it will go a long process through GNOME design and also the upstream maintainer works at Red Hat and Red Hat would not put effort into a facility for downloading10:30
tkamppeter proprietary drivers.10:30
seb128tkamppeter, wasn't that a known issue before we changed?10:31
chrisccoulsonbut for some reason, when i run the actual test here, the black lines are invisible10:31
chrisccoulsonand it fails in the same way here too https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/raring-ppa-adt-ubuntu_mozilla_daily_ppa-firefox-trunk/10:31
larsuseb128, tkamppeter, yes, this was a known issue. I thought we figured out the auto-downloading was done by the s-c-p daemon that we are still using?10:31
seb128tkamppeter, larsu: it's listed in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-system-config-printer-vs-gnome-3-control-center10:32
seb128"The new printer tool doesn't handle proprietary drivers (design choice), switching to the GNOME version would break downloading of those drivers10:32
seb128-> we don't want to drop that feature in Ubuntu10:32
seb128  -> if it doesn't get in upstream, we'll have to patch the ubuntu version"10:32
larsuseb128, right, I think I talked to tkamppeter after that and we figured out that this is done by the daemon10:33
seb128tkamppeter, btw you are a workitem on that blueprint about... " Make sure driver auto-download works: TODO"10:34
larsuseb128, I guess he's working on that right now :P10:34
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tkamppeterseb128, we have found a way to do it without needing to modify the GNOME tool, as the GNOME tools calls s-c-p backend libraries via D-Bus, I will put the functionality completely in the backend. S no problems with GNOME upstream.10:55
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chrisccoulsonah, figured out the test failures11:37
chrisccoulsonstupid build system is mangling some svg's when packaging the testsuite11:38
chrisccoulsonthat there, breaks a significant amount of tests :(11:46
chrisccoulsonpitti, how do i disable scour from running in the builds?11:47
pittichrisccoulson: cdbs?11:47
chrisccoulsonpitti, yeah, it's still cdbs11:48
pittichrisccoulson: I guess it's cdbs, as that's the only one invoking it automatically11:48
chrisccoulsonah, i wasn't sure if this was some pkgbinarymangler thing11:48
chrisccoulsonin that case, i'll grep the cdbs files :)11:48
pittichrisccoulson: DEB_DH_SCOUR_ARGS = -N<pkgname>11:49
pittito ignore that package name; can also be specified multiple times11:49
chrisccoulsonright, i'll give that a try now :)11:52
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ogra_cyphermox, could bug 1105068 be realted to your recent modemmanager question ?13:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 1105068 in ubuntu-nexus7 "getty on ttyGS0 causing lots of wakeups" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110506813:51
seb128ogra_, the nexus meeting is at 5pm german time right?14:04
cyphermoxogra_: no it has nothing to do with it. It could indeed be caused by MM though.. not sure14:05
ogra_seb128, no, 5pm french time :)14:05
seb128ogra_, thanks ;-)14:05
cyphermoxogra_: my question was that I noticed that if I went very quickly after connecting the nexus 7 to open ttyASM3 in screen, I'd see AT commands sent by NM mess up with getty, but it settles down pretty quickly14:08
cyphermoxwhereas that bug is for ttyGS0 -- inside the nexus, as opposed to outside :)14:08
ogra_right, but it could be that getty gets confused by getting AT commands14:09
cyphermoxI think the fix will likely be the exact same thing though, and I discussed it with upstream, Dan seemed to say it shouldn't be blacklisted but I still don't understand why -- seems safe to blacklist that particular USB ID14:09
cyphermoxogra_: in both cases it's a new "modem" (serial device), and getting probed14:10
ogra_well, we could do it as distro patch worst case14:10
cyphermoxunless these wakeups come from something completely different14:10
cyphermoxogra_: oh yeah14:10
cyphermoxbut it still seems like a valid upstream patch -- if people are using that particular USB ID they are necessarily trying to do something special, since you can only get it if you use the kernel g_serial module, with the default settings14:11
ogra_hmm, i think the wakeups come from chraging the device14:11
cyphermoxbtw: why didn't we register a USB ID or just use a different one? ;D14:11
cyphermoxogra_: could be too14:11
ogra_hmm, or not14:12
cyphermoxmultiple 5V on a serial line?14:12
ogra_well, i just checked, still wakes up like crazy14:12
ogra_even with no cable plugged in14:12
cyphermoxit could very well be confusing the kernel14:12
ogra_so its neither14:12
cyphermoxwell no14:12
cyphermoxit can still be MM14:12
ogra_on the nexus side, yeah14:12
ogra_shutting down MM on the nexus seems to not have any effect either14:13
cyphermoxI'll give it a shot14:14
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cyphermoxogra_: what command got the traces?14:28
ogra_traces ?14:28
ogra_i'm just watching with htop14:28
cyphermoxin the bug14:28
ogra_ask cking ... though he might be using powertop14:28
ckingi used eventstat14:29
didrockspitti: hey, I would appreciate if I can abuse from some of your rescoring power for https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/424681814:29
didrocksso that we can get a daily release soon :)14:29
ogra_but htop shows it nicely as well, getty eats CPU all the time14:29
ogra_usually being in the top 5 busy apps when sorting by CPU14:29
cyphermoxyeah but eventstat interests me ;)14:30
ckingI wrote it for the power saving work in 12.0414:30
pittididrocks: hmm; bumping to 6000 now makes it "7 hours" :(14:30
ckingcyphermox, think of it like vmstat for events ;-)14:31
cyphermoxcking cool14:31
pittididrocks: even 90014:31
cyphermoxof course it may be counterproductive to do that while connected to 3G over said bus...14:32
pittididrocks: two libo builds, and some disabled ones, sorry14:32
pittididrocks: but it'll be the next in line14:32
didrockspitti: ah, excellent! Thanks a lot :) I won't have to wake up in the middle of the night to ensure the daily is in :)14:33
* didrocks hugs pitti14:33
* pitti hugs you back14:34
cyphermoxCking: hmm its special on the nexus with on board... It doesn't limit output to the number of lines on the terminal.14:43
ckingcyphermox, ah, so it's the  tty driver being a pain then?14:45
ogra_cking, do you have a 3G nexus ?14:48
ckingogra_, how do I figure that out?14:48
ogra_i wonder if that comes into play somewhere and interferes14:48
ogra_hmm, good question, i gues it shoudl offer you 3G networks in NM14:49
* ogra_ has never had a 3G one in his hands, in fact i only own an 8G model from the early days14:49
didrocksseb128: did you see quite some dconf crashes since yesterday's fix?14:49
didrocksseems there is nothing in errors on the first page14:50
ckingogra_, I can't see any 3G networks, so can't tell really14:51
ogra_well, was it given to you by the company ?14:51
ogra_i know we didnt buy any 3G models14:51
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ckingogra_, i purchased it from google14:53
ogra_heh, well, then you should know what you bought :P14:53
didrocksseb128: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/d-conf/+bug/110488315:09
ubot2didrocks: Error: ubuntu bug 1104883 not found15:09
didrockshey desrt :)15:17
didrocksdesrt: want to debug a dconf crash? do you need the stacktrace this time to get it fix or will you just be awesome once more and not using it? :)15:17
cyphermoxogra_: speaking of a 3G model, I wouldn't mind having my hands on one to make sure the modem works properly there. you know, maintaining MM and everything ;)15:23
cyphermoxcking: well, partly15:23
cyphermoxcking: the tty driver is being a pain because it's hard to easily readable data from eventstat unless you're on serial15:23
ogra_cyphermox, probably vanhoof has one15:23
cyphermoxcking: but then that will break the data you get if what you're interested in is how often the nexus wakes up because of the tty15:24
cyphermoxcking: otherwise, we use the g_serial module with no parameters, so it load up with the default USB ID15:24
ogra_else have your  managernapprove the expenses15:24
cyphermoxthat has the chance of being used elsewhere by people trying to really hook up some fake modem to MM15:25
cyphermoxI wish we could register our own, or kind of steak the USB ID from the actual nexus15:25
cyphermoxsince you know... it's a nexus15:25
cyphermoxthough if we use that USB ID, then I definitely can't blacklist it in ModemManager, otherwise it will break tethering15:26
cyphermoxI think registering an ID with IANA or whatever costs money though15:26
cyphermoxthe current state isn't too bad, just a little tricky for some things ;)15:26
cyphermoxogra_: I've been thinking seriously about it15:27
cyphermoxbut then maybe I'd just buy it outright and keep it ;)15:27
ogra_yeah,i wasnt joking eithern:)15:27
jibeldidrocks, dconf crash has been retraced and duped to bug 110488315:29
ubot2Launchpad bug 1104883 in d-conf (Ubuntu) "dconf-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_is_trusted()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110488315:29
didrockscyphermox: not seeing my pings? :)15:30
cyphermoxerr sorry yeah I might have missed them15:30
didrocksjibel: hem, I wrote that 20 minutes ago and even tried to teased desrt, but thanks! :)15:30
jibeldidrocks, you're faster than my email client then :)15:31
didrocksjibel: I have an easy F5 :p15:32
sil2100didrocks: did all tests for all machines run in 51?15:41
didrockssil2100: not on ATI15:42
didrockssil2100: but for nvidia/intel, it's reliable15:42
didrockssil2100: it doesn't have your latest fix, but the rest, you can base on it if you want to continue fixing some :)15:42
didrockssil2100: also, maybe you can investigate to put back the multi-ws ones, changing the value before the test and putting that back to 1 during the teardown?15:42
sil2100didrocks: yea, I'll think whether to do those or just revisit them later and now look at standard failures ;)15:44
didrockssil2100: sounds good to me as well!15:45
didrockssil2100: kill them all \o/15:45
seb128didrocks, didn't no, but seems you found it15:47
Sweetsharkbdrung: do you think I should edit/merge the ppa changelog lines from previous historical uploads too?15:47
Sweetsharkbdrung: (esp. those of upstream versions that never made it to main?)15:51
didrocksseb128: yep, can you put that on your track list once desrt is back? we can get it reliably in the daily release15:51
seb128didrocks, sure15:51
didrocksthanks a lot :)15:51
bdrungSweetshark: if the raring version has the ppa paragraphs in it, you can keep them (to avoid additional work)15:58
bdrungSweetshark: alternatively, you could take the whole changelog from Debian and add only one new paragraph for raring (but then you have to state all changes to debian)16:00
Sweetsharkbdrung: k16:10
desrtdidrocks: again?16:47
didrocksdesrt: yeah, you screwed some daily release for me! (this time, it doesn't impact that much, but apport is taking the focus and so the integration tests are failing)16:48
didrocksdesrt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/d-conf/+bug/110488316:48
ubot2Ubuntu bug 1104883 in d-conf (Ubuntu) "dconf-service crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_is_trusted()" [Medium,Confirmed]16:48
desrts already fixed16:48
didrocksseb128: backporting? :) ^16:49
seb128desrt, not in the commits you told me to backport the other day :p16:49
seb128desrt, do you have the commit id?16:49
desrtyup.  just commented on the bug16:49
seb128didrocks, do you have a testcase to confirm the fix?16:49
desrtbut here: http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=998c6e65cf18aee626b9982347c29b4b09f2c09716:49
seb128desrt, thanks16:49
desrtvery very old bug16:50
seb128oh, come on16:50
seb128not another glib upload :/16:50
didrocksseb128: not really, apart from not having crashes during the daily release tests16:50
desrthttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=789824 may interest you16:50
ubot2bugzilla.redhat.com bug 789824 in dconf "[abrt] dconf-0.10.0-1.fc16: gvs_tuple_is_normal: Process /usr/libexec/dconf-service was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)" [Unspecified,On_qa]16:51
seb128desrt, btw didrocks almost convinced me I was wrong to agree on taking glib unstable serie16:51
desrtthat would have been a mistake, considering this bug is some 3-4 years old :)16:51
seb128it's turning again into playing catchup on segfault issues16:51
didrocksseb128 loves backporting fixes :)16:51
seb128well, we didn't have those segfaults before updating dconf16:52
desrtplus: i warned you this would be a bumpy ride in terms of weird possibly-incompatible changes, but that i'd be around to fix crashers16:52
desrtya... fedora was having these issues since last year16:52
desrtbut they did get worse recently16:52
seb128desrt, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/129480637/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.glib2.0_2.35.4-1~ppa4.2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz btw17:09
desrtGLib:ERROR:/build/buildd/glib2.0-2.35.4/./glib/tests/gwakeuptest.c:243:test_threaded: assertion failed (g_atomic_int_get (&tokens_alive) == 0): (4 == 0)17:10
desrtoh good.  hit my new assert.17:10
desrtso i think it's the kernel17:10
seb128desrt, it's racy, I had to try 3 times to hit the build issue17:11
desrti was concerned that i had gotten some weird thready stuff wrong in that test, but this makes it pretty clear17:11
desrtthe GWakeup does not get signalled until that variable is set to 017:11
desrtand meanwhile the assert sees it set to 417:12
desrtseb128: have you ever seen the issue on a non-builder build?17:12
seb128desrt, no, but I tend to skip the glib testsuit when I only backport a simple commit, it takes ages to run on my laptop ;-)17:13
Laneyit also doesn't happen on the distro builders?17:13
desrtso we can go with my process-is-being-randomly-signalled-by-something theory17:14
seb128Laney, hard to say, we didn't upload glib enough to say17:14
seb128Laney, I got it twice on amd64 with 5 ppa uploads, 0 times on i38617:14
desrtwhich would cause poll() to early-exit with errno=EINTR17:14
seb128desrt, so you are saying that the test can be "bugged" by external processes?17:15
desrtseb128: only by something causing EINTR17:15
desrtwhich the kernel can throw at it for all kinds of stupid reasons17:15
desrtthis is what we were speculating about the other day17:16
desrtlemme throw another more-assert patch your way17:16
desrtthis bug is really interesting17:16
desrtsorry it's so annoying for you :)17:16
seb128no worry, it's not *that* annoying, it didn't break my upload to raring17:17
desrtseb128: http://www.fpaste.org/yw51/17:22
seb128desrt, thanks17:22
desrti honestly don't know what we will see :)17:23
Sweetsharkbdrung: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1570329/ <- fixed changelog17:28
Sweetsharkbdrung: eh, make that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1570337/17:31
bdrungSweetshark: "upstream beta -- first port to raring" and "ppa prerelease bugs to packaging mailing list" could be dropped (no new information)17:47
bdrungSweetshark: you have "merge from Debian" twice. that could be combined to one entry17:47
bdrungSweetshark: besides that, it looks good17:48
bdrungSweetshark: i will take the source tarballs from http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/libreoffice4/ and the debian directory from the debian git repository (so pushing your changes there is enough)17:50
Sweetshark"ppa prerelease bugs to packaging mailing list" actually is new information, but it could be clearer -- as in:17:53
Sweetsharkmake ppa prerelease bugs being reported to packaging mailing list in control-file17:54
bdrungSweetshark: i will leave now. i wish you enjoyable holidays. i will continue review the package later, fix severe issue (if any found), upload it, and sent you a mail with stuff that should be fixed in future uploads.17:54
bdrungSweetshark: = "debian/control.in: make ppa prerelease bugs being reported to packaging mailing list"?17:54
bdrungSweetshark: is that change only relevant for the PPA?17:55
Sweetsharkbdrung: not quite. the change is in debian/rules and it generates a "Bugs:<ppa packaging team>" in the control file, if and only if the package version has a ppa string in it.17:57
bdrungah, okay. the changelog entry was misleading me.17:58
bdrungSweetshark: BTW, PPA should be written in capital in the changelog entries18:00
* didrocks waves good evening, see you in a week guys!18:00
Laneydidrocks: have fun!18:00
didrocksthanks, good luck for next week Laney ;)18:00
* Laney suddenly gets scared18:01
Sweetsharkbdrung: pushed as http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=commitdiff;h=23b97aa8cc5c80b82d10fe39be73aca1e347eefb18:12
Sweetsharkbdrung: thanks a lot.18:12
* Sweetshark begins teardown for going on vacation.18:15
doomlordanyone know if /how its possible to add file thumbnailers to the ubuntu filebrowser18:42
doomlord(additional thumbnailers for new types )18:43
Laneydoomlord: should be; see /usr/share/thumbnailers/18:45
Sweetsharkbdrung: oh, one note: you need to do a "./debian/rules control" to regenerate the control file when using the debian dir from the branch. Checking in a generated file didnt make sense to me (and is terribly annoying on merges)18:45
mterryseb128, sorry I missed the nexus7 meeting this morning, but I'm reading the log18:47
seb128mterry, no worry, thanks18:47
doomlordi'm guessing %s = size, %u=input filename, %o = output filename for the commandline invocation18:48
robrumterry, seb128 : there was a meeting this morning?18:50
doomlordbefore i write it , does anything  in linux provide thumnailers for 3d file formats like .obj18:50
seb128robru, not a desktop one, there is a nexus7 weekly meeting at 4pm utc on #ubuntu-meeting18:51
robruseb128, should I be participating in that?18:51
seb128robru, it's a good idea to join for those who are up seeing the nexus focus18:51
robruseb128, I'll try for the next one ;-)18:52
seb128robru, well, it's a status update meeting more than anything else, reading the log is good enough if you don't have questions ;-)18:52
Laneyenough gstreamer/pidgin!18:59
Laneyhappy weekend everyone ;-)18:59
mterryrobru, a nexus7 meeting happens at 16h UTC on Fridays19:09
mterryrobru, in #ubuntu-meeting19:09
robrumterry, thanks19:10
desrtseb128: looks like the amd64 build of your glib upload got past the glib/tests/ :(19:26
desrtseb128: maybe you should modify the next upload to run the testsuite 20 times :)19:26
robrumterry, ping19:36
robrumterry, actually this is too hard to explain in IRC, I'm going to email you19:37
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mterryrobru, yo19:46
robrumterry, check your inbox please ;-)19:48
mterryrobru, yes Vala is magic19:51
mterryrobru, there are two separate things going on that make it seem magical19:51
mterryrobru, oh ok19:52
mterryrobru, just saw your other message.  Will reply in email19:52
mterryrobru, replied20:10
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robruanybody around to help me troubleshoot some networking issues on the pandaboard? cyphermox ?23:46
robrucyphermox, I managed to boot quantal on my pandaboard, plugged in wired ethernet, and I got the notification bubble that it was connected over ethernet, but the installer gave me the warning that the installation is best done with a network connection. So I click continue anyway, and the first thing it asks me to do is connect to a wifi. So I choose my same wifi, and I get the notification bubble saying it's connected (so now it has23:59
robruboth wired and wireless connection into the same router), but the installation wizard does not continue past that point, it just hangs on the wifi selection screen (despite the fact that the wifi connected successfully).23:59

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