[04:43] <inetpro> good morning
[04:43] <inetpro> Maaz: tell kilos Goeie more Oom
[04:43] <Maaz> inetpro: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:30] <Kilos> sjoe
[05:30] <Kilos> more inetpro en ander
[06:20] <Kilos> pc rebooting on its own again
[06:21] <Kilos> sigh
[06:35] <sakhi> Morning
[06:35] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[06:42] <magespawn> good morning all
[06:49] <Kilos> hi magespawn SmilyBorg 
[06:49] <SmilyBorg> Hey all
[06:54] <magespawn> hey SmilyBorg Kilos
[06:54] <magespawn> Kilos pc still giving probs?
[06:54] <Kilos> yeah started again last night
[06:55] <Kilos> swopping ram from other one to try localise the faulty one
[06:55] <Kilos> only slower now
[06:55] <Kilos> but min ram is better than no ram
[06:55] <magespawn> indeed
[06:58] <magespawn> you think it is a ram issue?
[06:59] <Kilos> well the monkey said reseat ram las week and for a week it worked good
[06:59] <Kilos> ram or mb
[07:00] <Kilos> s/las/last/
[07:05] <magespawn> you can try memtest
[07:09] <Kilos> i have and it goes through without any errors, that what is confusing
[07:10] <Kilos> and it is so time consuming
[07:18] <magespawn> yup i do not know of software that can accurately test a mb
[07:20] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[07:21] <Kilos> hey sneaky fly
[07:21] <jrgns> morning Kilos, all
[07:22] <Kilos> i need to fing something that will alert when you away peeps return
[07:22] <Kilos> find
[07:31] <playmonkey> morning Kilos 
[07:32] <Kilos> hehe hi playmonkey 
[07:32] <Kilos> is that you wes
[07:32] <playmonkey> the web chat works here
[07:32] <playmonkey> yes
[07:32] <Kilos> yay
[07:32] <playmonkey> but remember it is unsecure. 'they' can see what we talk about ;)
[07:32] <Kilos> well after all this time you got a way hey
[07:33] <Kilos> well done
[07:33] <Kilos> you gotta keep cleaning ff cache or somethintg
[07:33] <playmonkey> oh I always knew about webchat. I'm just too paranoid to actually *use* it :P
[07:33] <playmonkey> clean the cache for what?
[07:34] <Kilos> so the browser doesnt remember where it went
[07:34] <playmonkey> oh that is not a problem.
[07:34] <playmonkey> the problem is the connection goes through a network that is out of my control
[07:34] <Kilos> ah
[07:35] <playmonkey> [PC] <> [PROXY] <> [ISP] <> [WEB]
[07:35] <Kilos> so it can be monitored while working?
[07:35] <playmonkey> yup
[07:35] <Kilos> ai
[07:35] <playmonkey> Maaz: coffee on
[07:35]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:36] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[07:36] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[07:36] <Kilos> i spose its harmless if you come for coffee
[07:36] <playmonkey> Kilos: I need to post you that hedgewars game. it is quite fun.
[07:37] <Kilos> is it big?
[07:37] <playmonkey> rather large to download from all the nice music it has
[07:37] <playmonkey> 130MB about?
[07:37] <Kilos> data low till the 1st
[07:37] <Kilos> eeek
[07:37] <Kilos> hi henkj 
[07:37] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[07:37] <Kilos> not now playmonkey 
[07:37] <playmonkey> hi henkj 
[07:37] <Kilos> wont make the month
[07:38] <playmonkey> that why we can post you a love-bundle but I think when I get the new ubuntu discs i'll include those too
[07:38] <Kilos> and dont forget a dvd with 
[07:38] <Kilos> um
[07:38] <Kilos> your os?
[07:38] <Kilos> crashbang
[07:38] <playmonkey> yes crunchbang
[07:38] <playmonkey> lol, not crash :p
[07:38] <Kilos> lol oh ya that too
[07:39] <Kilos> they got him
[07:39] <Kilos> aw
[07:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for playmonkey and Kilos!
[07:40] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[07:40] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[07:45] <Kilos> he didnt even get to have his coffee
[07:49] <playmonkey> back Kilos 
[07:50] <playmonkey> had to close the window suddenly
[07:50] <Kilos> thought they got you
[07:50] <Kilos> dont jeapodise your work hey
[07:51] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:51] <Vince-0> Hi Kilos , hoe gaan dit met jou
[07:51] <Kilos> Maaz, spell jeopordise
[07:51] <Maaz> Kilos: Suggestions: jeopardise
[07:51] <playmonkey> hi Vince-0 
[07:51] <Vince-0> hi playmonkey hoe gaan dit
[07:51] <playmonkey> I don't think that spelling looks right Maaz 
[07:51] <Kilos> goed dankie en jy Vince-0 
[07:51] <playmonkey> good Vince-0 
[07:53] <playmonkey> bet everyone is glad it is Friday
[07:55] <playmonkey> Vince-0: I've been getting into hedgewars a bit, the quality of the content is just too good
[07:56] <playmonkey> and it has lan play, or online via their official server. you can spectate games too, it works fine with a 2G/3G connection even.
[07:59] <Vince-0> Vrydag, ja
[07:59] <Vince-0> I'm bored at work
[08:00] <Vince-0> hedgewars? checking it out now
[08:00] <playmonkey> wish I was bored ;)
[08:00] <playmonkey> I have to get back to coding this C# MVC site...
[08:01] <Vince-0> using a framework?
[08:02] <playmonkey> yes, knockout and razor
[08:02] <playmonkey> and MEF
[08:02] <Vince-0> hedgewars intro vid - queen lol . its a worms knock-off
[08:03] <playmonkey> yeah its a worms remake :D
[08:10] <playmonkey> have a good day Vince-0 and Kilos and *your-name-here*
[08:17] <Vince-0> baai
[08:17] <Vince-0> oh, too late
[08:18] <Kilos> quick hey
[09:30] <Kilos> hi N8Wulf 
[09:31] <N8Wulf> hey Uncle Kilos
[09:31] <N8Wulf> Fridaayyyy
[09:31] <Kilos> haha
[09:38] <superfly> afternoon
[09:38] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[09:45] <N8Wulf> what's the kde groups name again pls?
[09:46] <N8Wulf> (blush)
[09:46] <Kilos> lol
[09:46] <superfly> kde group?
[09:46] <Kilos> ask superfly and inetpro 
[09:46] <N8Wulf> #ubuntu-kde non comprende vous
[09:46] <superfly> #kubuntu
[09:46] <N8Wulf> Dankie dankie
[09:49] <inetpro> N8Wulf, Kilos: why?
[09:49] <Kilos> he needs some kde info of course
[09:49] <Kilos> you winning inetpro ?
[09:50] <N8Wulf> stuck with something small: how do I switch Workspaces? with gnome I pressed Cntrl+Alt & Left /right
[09:50] <Kilos> i click in that block of workspaces bottom left
[09:51] <N8Wulf> and to move a App we "normally" press Ctrl+Alt+Shift and Left/Right... Kilos... Clicking is for Windows users
[09:51] <Kilos> lol
[09:51] <superfly> N8Wulf: I set mine up to use Super+Alt+Left/Right
[09:51] <superfly> N8Wulf: you can set all of that up... let me quickly see...
[09:52] <superfly> N8Wulf: btw, don't forget Alt+F2
[09:53] <superfly> N8Wulf: System Settings -> Shortcuts & Gestures -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts, Select "KWin" as the component, and Bob's your uncle!
[09:53] <superfly> Meta = Super = Windows key
[09:55] <charl_> good morning
[09:55] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[09:55]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:57]  * inetpro is happy with all in one workspace and simply Alt+Tab for switching between apps and Alt+F2 to start new apps
[09:58] <inetpro> not sure why anyone would want different workspaces, but that's just me
[09:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[09:59] <inetpro> if I really want to move stuff to a 2nd desktop I just switch with Ctrl+F1,F2,Fx
[10:00] <Kilos> see N8Wulf the kde guys here are clever
[10:01] <N8Wulf> one reason being that I run IRC on my right hand workspace, my browser on the bottom workspace and then the rest in my Main workspace. then when I need to switch quickly between the 15 open Apps, I dont need to Alt-Tab 32 times
[10:02] <inetpro> 15 open apps? Why?
[10:03] <inetpro> superfly: by the way, my super key is not working by default, is there anywhere you need to enable it?
[10:04]  * inetpro goes to google it
[10:07] <inetpro> hmm... 
[10:07] <inetpro> the key definitely works when I set it to launch the KMenu
[10:08] <inetpro> but shortcuts defined in above mentioned settings don't do what they should be doing
[10:08] <N8Wulf> thanx guys
[10:08] <inetpro> N8Wulf: working?
[10:08] <Kilos> inetpro, i asked you if you are winning with you move to new hardware
[10:08] <inetpro> Kilos: I'm always winning
[10:09] <Kilos> except when youre sukkeling
[10:09] <Kilos> hehe
[10:10] <inetpro> Kilos: it will take some time in between many other daily challenges, we're sorting out the memory tonight
[10:12] <Kilos> whew long hours hey
[10:12] <Kilos> shame
[10:12] <Kilos> keep us informed though
[10:22] <N8Wulf> Heeelpp... Server 12.10 , I'm trying to edit the resolv.conf but I see that it is dynamically managed by resolvconf
[10:23] <N8Wulf> so how do I change the DNS server in the resolv.conf? pleas someone
[10:27] <N8Wulf> the mighty Google has spoken
[10:27] <N8Wulf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/157154/how-do-i-add-changes-resolv-conf-without-getting-overwritten
[10:54] <magespawn> bbl
[10:54] <Kilos> k
[11:14] <N8Wulf> What's for Lunch gents?
[11:20] <inetpro> N8Wulf: i just noticed that steers dropped their prices
[11:21] <inetpro> with combo meals
[11:21] <inetpro> for*
[11:23] <N8Wulf> Greek Salad with lots of Feta... made by Fruit and Veg
[11:23] <inetpro> nice!
[11:24] <N8Wulf> indeed... and Big Bananas for pudding
[11:27] <Kilos> lol
[11:28] <Kilos> what is a caterpillar in afrikaans
[11:29] <Kilos> http://code.google.com/apis/language/translate/overview.html
[11:29] <Kilos> dont work that link
[11:29] <Kilos> goes to google developers
[11:31] <superfly> inetpro: probably because you're already using the Super key as a dedicated shortcut for something else
[11:40] <inetpro> superfly: I don't actually, have never used it since using kubuntu... ok perhaps not never
[11:41]  * inetpro is used to many default kde shortcuts without needing the super key
[11:53] <N8Wulf> Any Geniuses in the house for Lamp Server installation?
[11:55] <N8Wulf> Using this: sudo tasksel install lamp-server  I'm supposed to get a Prompt to create a MySql password, but this never happened. Should I remove and reInstall or can I set the PW in another way?
[11:56] <superfly> N8Wulf: google it, there are tons of blog posts out there on how to reset your MySQL admin password
[11:56] <superfly> s/admin/root/
[11:56] <N8Wulf> tanx
[12:11] <Squirm> good afternoon
[12:14]  * Squirm pops in
[12:16] <N8Wulf> afternoon Squirm
[12:16] <Squirm> hello N8Wulf, superfly 
[12:19] <N8Wulf> pls point me in the right direction.. busy setting up a smei headless box. I have to run a Webbrowser on the box as part of the setup, so I'm installing LXDE quickly. Do I have to run the LXDE first, then something like VNC-Server so that I can connect remotelly/
[12:19] <N8Wulf> ?
[12:19] <N8Wulf> *don't ask me what a "smei" is, typo
[12:21] <inetpro> you're doing it wrong
[12:21] <inetpro> a web server should never require a gui
[12:22] <N8Wulf> http://docs.moodle.org/20/en/Step-by-step_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu
[12:22] <N8Wulf> just above the Step for Setup a virtual server
[12:24] <inetpro> remind me to never install Moodle
[12:25] <N8Wulf> which brings me back to my Q... some kind of remote X possible?
[12:26] <inetpro> N8Wulf: try using a text browser
[12:27] <inetpro> no gui needed
[12:27] <inetpro> elinks, links, lynx or any other
[12:33] <N8Wulf> good idea.. will let you know
[13:12] <Squirm> and N8Wulf, it is possible to have a remote X session
[13:12] <Squirm> just don't ask me how to do it :P
[13:12] <Squirm> only way I know of is ss -x
[13:13] <N8Wulf> will read up on that one thanx for the tip
[13:13] <Squirm> well, ssh -X
[13:13] <Squirm> it brings an X application through ssh.
[13:13] <N8Wulf> ow COOL
[13:47] <inetpro> I would however stay away from installing X components on a server
[13:47] <inetpro> the only thing that is sometimes needed is libraries
[14:02] <superfly> if you need something like X, use Xvfb
[14:13] <charl_> i find it hard to believe that there is now an ubuntu derivative that is actually called "descentos"
[14:13] <charl_> http://www.descentos.org/
[14:13] <charl_> how unoriginal can you get
[14:14] <charl_> (i'm not criticising the distro by the way, just the name...)
[15:00] <N8Wulf> have a gr8 weekend all
[15:05] <inetpro> N8Wulf: thanks, same to you
[15:06] <Kilos> cheers N8Wulf storm coming inetpro 
[15:06] <Kilos> there by your side
[15:06] <inetpro> Kilos: nee, it's already over
[15:06] <inetpro> or you mean by my house?
[15:07] <inetpro> in city centre we just had a massive amount of rain
[15:07] <inetpro> well, massive in a short space of time
[15:07] <inetpro> sun is out again
[15:07] <N8Wulf> storm hitting the Vaal now
[15:17] <hibana> Kilos: and you didn't even greet me?
[15:22] <Kilos> aw sorry hibana was asleep
[15:22] <Kilos> just woke when dogs barked when sis got home
[15:23] <Kilos> storming your house side
[15:25] <hibana> ahh he's sleeping in the middle of the day?
[15:25] <hibana> ai!
[15:27] <magespawn> hey all finnally back at a keyboard
[15:27] <Kilos> dont spot man
[15:27] <Kilos> kop klap dag
[15:27] <Kilos> grrr
[15:27] <inetpro> Kilos: jammer oom
[15:27] <Kilos> np 
[15:27]  * inetpro going down in a few minutes
[15:28] <Kilos> see some interesting stuff here
[15:28]  * hibana ready to take control
[15:28] <Kilos> good luck inetpro hibana 
[15:30] <hibana> Kilos: thanks
[15:32] <magespawn> whats up Kilos?
[15:33] <hibana> hmm...
[15:33] <hibana> dood soos 'n mossie
[15:34] <Kilos> aw poor inetpro
[15:35] <magespawn> anywho i am off for the rest of the day,see you later all
[15:36] <Kilos> later magespawn 
[15:54] <Kilos> saw some interesting stuff about x onna server
[15:54] <Kilos> hehe
[15:59] <inetpro> hello world
[16:02] <Kilos> wb inetpro well done
[16:02] <Kilos> plustwo, with you?
[16:02] <Kilos> or coincidence
[16:11] <Kilos> oh my
[16:23] <Kilos> aw toods banana
[16:23] <Kilos> i mean hibana
[16:23] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[16:23] <inetpro> en dit sonder om te groet?
[16:24] <Kilos> sies
[16:24] <Kilos> maar hy is oud so ons kan hom verskoon
[16:25] <hibana> hmm...
[16:25] <Kilos> haha
[16:25] <Kilos> jy moet groet ballie
[16:26] <hibana> sjoe
[16:26] <hibana> sorry oom
[16:26]  * hibana going to sleep now
[16:26] <hibana> bye oom
[16:26] <Kilos> nag hibana lekker rus
[16:26] <hibana> mooi bly julle!
[16:26] <Kilos> werk als
[16:27] <Kilos> ai!
[16:27]  * inetpro voel stukke beter
[16:27] <Kilos> mooi
[16:29] <Kilos> hi drussell hows things
[16:29] <Kilos> ?
[16:30] <inetpro> wb drussell
[16:31] <drussell> Kilos: good! Just back from Stockholm... -29 degrees there ;o)
[16:31] <Kilos> eeeek
[16:31] <drussell> inetpro: thx
[16:45] <smile> hi
[16:45] <smile> :p
[16:45] <Kilos> hi smile 
[16:46] <smile> how are you kilos? :)
[16:46] <Kilos> good ty smile and you?
[16:47] <smile> im okay
[16:47] <smile> :)
[16:48] <smile> im cleaning up old kernels :p
[16:48] <Kilos> good
[16:50] <smile> yeah :)
[16:50] <smile> 665 mb :o
[16:51] <Kilos> such big kernels?
[16:56] <smile> haha, http://www.praag.co.za/nuus-magazine-402/internasionale-nuus-magazine-399/12951-gaan-vlieg.html
[16:56] <smile> no, four :)
[16:56] <Kilos> ah
[17:32] <Kilos> wbb
[17:38] <Kilos> hi not_found 
[17:38] <not_found> hiya uncle Kilos 
[17:40] <not_found> ChanServ: /help
[17:40] <not_found> >.
[17:40] <not_found> >.>
[17:41] <smile> Kilos: wb :p
[17:43] <Kilos> ty smile 
[17:44] <Kilos> wassup not_found 
[17:44] <not_found> not much uncle Kilos ... playing around with chanserv
[17:45] <Kilos> lol what you wanna do
[17:45] <Kilos> ChanServ: /help
[17:45] <Kilos> that does nothing
[17:45] <not_found> oh I just had to op so I could change the topic in another channel...
[17:45] <not_found> already got it done now :p
[17:45] <Kilos> ah
[17:46] <Kilos> did that command give you a message or options?
[17:46] <not_found> nope
[17:46] <Kilos> ah
[17:46] <not_found> /msg ChanServ help worked
[17:46] <Kilos> ya
[17:46] <not_found> /msg ChanServ help commands worked
[17:47] <not_found> takes me a while but where there is a google there is a way
[17:47] <Kilos> lol
[17:47] <Kilos> you must remember those things man
[17:48] <Kilos>  like /msg nickserv Nick etc
[17:48] <not_found> perhaps... for the one time in a year I might need it
[18:41] <Kilos> inetpro, why you use hibana when working on system?
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: so that I could see when inetpro got cut
[18:42] <Kilos> oh ty
[18:42] <inetpro> was connecting with hibana from a different route
[18:42] <Kilos> via?
[18:42] <inetpro> same network, just another server
[18:43] <Kilos> from same pc?
[18:43] <inetpro> another server at the gate of our network
[19:28] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight.
[19:30] <smile> bye :)
[19:30]  * smile waves