| r4y | I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and am downloading Ubuntu 12.04 to put onto CD, what program do I use to burn it into CD?, I have always used Nero on Windows XP and I would like to not use Nero, lol. | 00:10 |
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| r4y | Is a prgogram already installed for this? | 00:10 |
| r4y | I mean do I need to install ISO Master?, or is there a program already installed in Ubuntu 10.04 for this? | 00:12 |
| geirha | Ubuntu has been able to burn isos for as long as I can remember | 00:14 |
| geirha | you right-click the iso and choose "Burn to disc..." or something like that | 00:14 |
| r4y | Ah OK, I will see when the time comes. | 00:15 |
| r4y | Sounds like something I've seen before | 00:15 |
| r4y | Great, TY | 00:16 |
| r4y | Take care, bye | 00:16 |
| r4y | write to disc, but I have to halt my computer, then rehook up my CD writer | 00:17 |
| r4y | bye | 00:17 |
| IveBeenBit | I have a problem setting up dual boot on a machine that already has Windows on it. The first stage where it asks me to choose a place for boot loader installation, it only will show the live USB drive. It seems I cannot get to the hard disk that holds Windows | 01:21 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, what version of windows? | 01:21 |
| IveBeenBit | Windows 7 | 01:22 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, can you select "try ubuntu" with the live USB and run "sudo parted -l " and paste that to paste.ubuntu.com | 01:23 |
| IveBeenBit | 1 moment please. Thank you. | 01:23 |
| IveBeenBit | Sorry it took so long. I have a Dvorak keyboard and have to type in Qwerty without seeing the letters. HAHA. URL upcoming | 01:28 |
| IveBeenBit | paste.ubuntu.com/1571450 | 01:29 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, why do you have partitions on your flash disk? | 01:29 |
| IveBeenBit | I don't know. I used unetbootin and installed an ISO on the flash disk. My guess is that unetbootin did it. | 01:30 |
| IveBeenBit | Or maybe I did months ago when I was messing with it. It could be my fault. | 01:31 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, ok never used unetbootin... it also did it in the stupidest way imaginable | 01:31 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, so when you go into the installer you dont see windows at all? | 01:31 |
| IveBeenBit | hang on I will go back to the installer so I can tell you accurately | 01:32 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: i ran into that and realized mt usb was not formatted FAT32 | 01:32 |
| duanedesign | but ntfs | 01:32 |
| IveBeenBit | at the installer it has /dev/stb and under that .../stb1 and ...sdb5 | 01:33 |
| IveBeenBit | an the bottom is the drop down and I can choose dev sda, sdb or sdb1 | 01:34 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, then it is seeing sda | 01:34 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, but it doesnt list windows? perhaps it is booting efi. can you see if there is a folder /sys/firmware/efi or /sys/firmware/uefi | 01:35 |
| IveBeenBit | Right, but when I pick that, it does not change the selections at the top...still shows the graph of the USB's partitions | 01:35 |
| IveBeenBit | in sys/firmware there is only acpi and memmap | 01:36 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, i dont remember all the steps in the installer is this after you selected "manual partitioning" or before? | 01:36 |
| IveBeenBit | before. I am trying to get to the part that lets me partition | 01:37 |
| IveBeenBit | It's the very 1st step after it tells you to make sure you have enough hard drive space. | 01:37 |
| duanedesign | is it trying to onstall the bootloadder while creating the usb? | 01:37 |
| ubuntuuser | back again, my mouse still not working I already discarded a hardware issue (it works on bios), so not sure what to do from here. | 01:37 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, well the bootloader will be installed to the mbr so your original question about the bootloader is irrelevant to whether or not it shows windows partitions on that disk | 01:37 |
| ubuntuuser | I am using a 12.04lets version desktop | 01:38 |
| IveBeenBit | escott: so I should just tell it to install the bootloader at sda? | 01:38 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, i thought the bootloader was after the partitioning... so im a bit confused as to what step you are at | 01:39 |
| IveBeenBit | you want to remote desktop into this thing? I just formatted everything so there's nothing personal on it | 01:39 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, the bootloader would be installed to sda if you plan to install the system to sda. | 01:40 |
| IveBeenBit | but it's seriously the first screen after it says "make sure you have 5 gigs and are connected to the internet" | 01:40 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, i could be wrong about the order in which it asks you things | 01:40 |
| IveBeenBit | I was planning to give Ubuntu its own partitions, and put the bootloader in there | 01:40 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, pbr loaders are very fragile | 01:41 |
| IveBeenBit | But understand I am a linux dumbass and may be trying to do something stupid without realizing it | 01:41 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, grub really doesnt like doing that you would probably have to do it all manually | 01:41 |
| duanedesign | I had a hard time with the usb-creator yesterday. i also did not have any DVDs. I ended up installing 11.04 on CD and upgrading onr distro at a time until I got to 12.10\\ | 01:41 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, there is a difference between the "bootloader" and the second stage grub files and the boot files | 01:42 |
| IveBeenBit | Grub has given me big problems before. It broke Windows last time I tried to ise Ubuntu | 01:42 |
| IveBeenBit | Back then I had motherboard RAID installed but I reconfigured everything because Ubuntu doesn't like BIOS-driven RAID apparently | 01:43 |
| IveBeenBit | but it put grubs everywhere | 01:43 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, they call it fake raid for a reason | 01:43 |
| IveBeenBit | so I was hoping to keep it segregated this time | 01:43 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, the reason fakeraid support is bad is because its complete junk and most developers recognize that and don't have any interest in writing drivers for it | 01:44 |
| IveBeenBit | So I got rid of all the fake RAID arrays. The problem is I have one of these fancy motherboards that uses an SSD as a windows cache disk. So I have to tie the HDD and SDD together into a fakeraid | 01:44 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, and thats not going to work. | 01:45 |
| IveBeenBit | SSD* | 01:45 |
| IveBeenBit | I was afraid you would say that | 01:45 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, i would go buy yourself another disk and don't put it into any intel storage anything and use it properly | 01:46 |
| IveBeenBit | Right now I only have 1 HDD plugged in and no RAID activated. I was going to partition everything and install both OSes and then turn on the RAID and see if it breaks Ubuntu | 01:46 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, you can google around and see if anyone has had success with that intel speed whatever, but i doubt it | 01:46 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: their are some windows programs the mess with the MBR (eho knows why). For example Adobe Creative Suite | 01:46 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, it will | 01:46 |
| IveBeenBit | Do you think I could put Windows on an entire separate HDD, tie that into the SSD with Fake RAID and give Ubuntu it's own HDD that is not in a RAID array at all? | 01:48 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, supposedly its supported with dmraid 1.0.0-rc15 so you could try, but i would not | 01:48 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, that is what i would | 01:48 |
| IveBeenBit | escott: what do you mean? "That is what I would" | 01:49 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, have a disk outside the rapid storage array and use that to boot linux | 01:50 |
| IveBeenBit | OK. Well then I will have to put an old HDD into this badboy and start from scratch. I'll probably be back to bug you guys then. | 01:51 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, the other thing that people sometimes do is put their bootloader and /boot directory on a thumb drive and then use whatever fakeraid stuff on their disks | 01:51 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, that circumvents the "grub doesn't know what intel is doing" problem and puts it all on the shoulders of dmraid which has a better chance of working. i still would not trust intel rapid storage with my data though | 01:51 |
| IveBeenBit | I don't trust Intel RST with my data. All the data goes on a separate HDD but RST has been working well for me for a year. | 01:53 |
| IveBeenBit | Do you guys have an opinion on this: http://bcache.evilpiepirate.org/ | 01:53 |
| IveBeenBit | Or this: https://github.com/facebook/flashcache | 01:53 |
| IveBeenBit | BTW thank you very much for your time, guys. | 01:55 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, if you have it in writeback mode then you are trusting it with your data | 01:55 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, i would certainly trust an in kernel software implementation more. neither are in the ubuntu kernels at this time. bcache may make it into mainline at some point | 01:57 |
| IveBeenBit | escott: so I should just watch the update notes and see if bcache is ever included? Then maybe switch? | 01:57 |
| escott | IveBeenBit, well you can't "switch" | 01:58 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/08/28/2112208/some-windows-apps-make-grub-2-unbootable | 01:59 |
| duanedesign | i am sure they are not doinr it on purpose ;) | 01:59 |
| IveBeenBit | OK Well then I will start over. So the plan is: 1) Put Windows on its own HDD & fakeraid it to the SSD 2) Put Ubuntu on its own disk - no RAID. Anything else I should know? | 02:02 |
| duanedesign | if you have any questions fek free to ask them here. You may not get an immediattte response but we do check thr channel regularly | 02:05 |
| IveBeenBit | Thank you guys for the help! Let's see how this goes! | 02:06 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: You can also ping our team members in #ubuntu-beginners-team . That is where we chit chat and take care of team business | 02:07 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: best of luck! | 02:07 |
| IveBeenBit | what is the proper etiquette to do that so I'm not being intrusive? | 02:07 |
| duanedesign | just ask if dsomeone can herlp with issue X in #ubuntu-beginners | 02:08 |
| IveBeenBit | Good deal. Thank again. I'm Audi! | 02:09 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: you can also join the the Neginners Team we are always looking for new members :) | 02:09 |
| duanedesign | currently the ter=am is open. The only prerequisite is that you want to help the community domehow | 02:10 |
| IveBeenBit | I will do it if I can ever get this marvelous OS to work on my computer! | 02:10 |
| duanedesign | hopefully se can help you do that | 02:11 |
| duanedesign | IveBeenBit: i will send you a PM w/ my email | 02:11 |
| IveBeenBit | OK nice. PM received | 02:12 |
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| ryan1975 | Good day. I am looking for help understanding a piece of hardware on my Ubuntu desktop. | 20:24 |
| ryan1975 | Am I in the right place? | 20:24 |
| ryan1975 | I have a Planar touchscreen. The touch pointing device was working for a while, but it has stopped working. | 20:26 |
| ryan1975 | how do I test it for a hardware issue? | 20:32 |
| holstein | could be complicated | 20:38 |
| holstein | you'd have to go to a supported operating system and driver | 20:38 |
| ryan1975 | Someone else seems to have gotten the hardware working here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082116&highlight=Planar+touchscreen | 20:41 |
| holstein | well, you had the hardware working, correct? | 20:42 |
| ryan1975 | I had too, but now it is not working, and I do not know enough to troubleshoot HW vs. software. | 20:42 |
| holstein | i dont think its an issue of "can it work" | 20:42 |
| holstein | to troubleshoot the hardware, id want to have another one, and just swap it out | 20:42 |
| ryan1975 | No. It is not an issue of can it work. I am trying to use "how it works" to determine why it stopped working. | 20:42 |
| holstein | have one working, and swap in the questionable one | 20:42 |
| holstein | OR, you'll need to go to what is supported | 20:43 |
| holstein | ryan1975: i disagree | 20:43 |
| holstein | ryan1975: if it was working, then it *can* work | 20:43 |
| holstein | its not working now, and you dont know why, and you are (and rightly so) trying to determine if its bad hardware | 20:43 |
| ryan1975 | Yes. I agree that it can work. I wonder if I did something to the software to make it stop working. | 20:44 |
| holstein | the answer is not one you want to hear though, since it likely envolves installing a supported operating system | 20:44 |
| ryan1975 | For example, I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10. | 20:44 |
| holstein | one the manufacturer supportes | 20:44 |
| holstein | ryan1975: try a 12.04 live CD | 20:44 |
| ryan1975 | Hmm...I could try that. | 20:44 |
| holstein | if it worked in 12.04, it'll work with the 12.04 live CD, and you can decide what to do about it from there | 20:44 |
| ryan1975 | Fair enough. If it does not work with the live CD. Test it on a Win7 laptop. | 20:46 |
| ryan1975 | ? | 20:46 |
| holstein | ryan1975: if it doesnt work, i dont feel like you can assume the hardware is broken | 20:47 |
| ryan1975 | The hardware is designed for Win7 according to the manufacturer. | 20:47 |
| ryan1975 | Agreed. | 20:47 |
| ryan1975 | Do you have a different recommendation if it does not work from a 12.04 Live CD? | 20:48 |
| ryan1975 | I'm trying to come up with a list of things to try rather than a single task Do loop. | 20:49 |
| holstein | ryan1975: it'll be literally whatever you feel comfortable with based on what the manufacturer expects | 20:49 |
| holstein | what would i want? 2 devices.. one working.. swap in the broken one.. on whatever operating system | 20:50 |
| ryan1975 | I understand. | 20:50 |
| ryan1975 | Do you have a suggestion for tracking down potential software solutions? | 20:51 |
| ryan1975 | The device shows up in lsusb as "Quanta Optical Touch Screen" under 12.10. | 20:51 |
| ryan1975 | It did the same in 12.04 when it worked. | 20:51 |
| holstein | i usually try live CD's til something works, then i'll just search around.. searching "ubuntu" and "linux".. searching broad as possible | 20:53 |
| ryan1975 | Thank you for your help. I'll go see what I can find. | 20:54 |
| IveBeenBit | I am having problems installing Ubuntu in a dual boot with Windows 7. The partition editor does not recognize any of my hard drives, and then the installer crashes. | 23:18 |
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