[00:01] <nomoney4me> good evening everyone
[00:02] <nomoney4me> would anyone be able to help me with setting up my newly installed ubuntu laptop?
[00:06] <carif> can anyone recommend a keyboard layout utility? I'm trying to figure out what scancodes my microsoft wireless comfort 4000 keyboard is actually generating
[00:06] <cholby> hey is there an ubuntu I can put on my iphone?
[00:07] <cholby> I don't like iOS
[00:07] <bean> cholby: no
[00:07] <Random832> carif: showkey will give you scan codes
[00:07] <Random832> carif: run it on the console, and 10 seconds of silence to quit.
[00:07] <cholby> bean somebody told me there was a mobile version in beta
[00:07] <cholby> i can't find it though
[00:07] <cholby> is it on sourceforge?
[00:08] <bean> cholby: whoever told you that was a liar.
[00:08] <Random832> cholby: it's not going to be for iphones, most likely
[00:08] <cholby> why can't I just put the current version of ubuntu on my phone?
[00:08] <bean> because that is not how phones work
[00:08] <bean> they're specialized to run one certain piece of software
[00:08] <Random832> bean: in theory it is, there could totally be a cyanobuntumod
[00:09] <bean> Random832: on iphone?
[00:09] <Random832> but i don't think ubuntu phone OS is even ready at all, let alone ready to be ported to random hardware
[00:09] <shwaiil> hi
[00:09] <Random832> bean: IIRC someone did once successfully install android on an iphone
[00:10] <shwaiil> Q: Can we use "Hot corners" like Osx ? I just got use to it at work... ! Thanks for looking! ubuntu 12.10
[00:10] <will3032840> Hello? I need some help with ubuntu and a WDNA3100v2.
[00:10] <Random832> but it's certainly a lot harder to make work than a pc, and like i said i don't think ubuntu mobile is even ready at all yet
[00:10] <jrib> shwaiil: I  would be surprised if there isn't some compiz plugin for that
[00:10] <will3032840> this is a dev question, cause I need the WDNA3100v2 working for ubuntu ARM.
[00:11] <will3032840> as in a belkin WDNA3100v2.
[00:12] <bean> Random832: there was a linux on iphone project like 3 years ago
[00:12] <carif> Rand832, ty. Is there a way to get the codes translated into their symbolic equivalents? e.g. Left Alt seems to be generating keycode 111
[00:12] <will3032840> Hello? why isn't anyone responding
[00:13] <carif> Random832, ^^^
[00:14] <bean> will3032840 please do not beg for people to answer
[00:14] <bean> !repeat
[00:20] <Random832> carif: what do you mean by symbolic equivalents?
[00:21] <Random832> you asked for scancodes, not symbols
[00:21] <Random832> try xev (run in X, not console) if you want what X is interpreting as, but you said to find out what scancode it is actually sending
[00:21] <carif> Random832, yup, I asked the wrong question, xev will give me symbols, ty
[00:22] <Random832> apt-get install x11-utils if it's not by default
[00:22] <bean> will3032840: does your device show up in dmesg when it gets plugged in?
[00:22] <will3032840> can I repost my question or not?
[00:23] <bean> will3032840: does the usb device show up in dmesg?
[00:23] <bean> or
[00:23] <bean> lsusb
[00:23] <will3032840> bean: yes, and it identifies the device correctly but it says no interfaces avalible
[00:24] <bean> will3032840: thats a broadcom chip, yeah?
[00:26] <liveusb> what's the password for root on the 12.10 live image?
[00:26] <dblinx> Here is a question.... just got hit with a few viruses and maleware on my eeb server... need to know a way to make sure its clean
[00:26] <bean> liveusb: why do you need the root password? ubuntu doesn't have a root user with a password by default.
[00:26] <bean> !sudo | liveusb
[00:27] <bean> dblinx: as in windows viruses or bad scripts in linux?
[00:27] <scristopher> dblinx, clamav will do the job
[00:27] <scristopher> also were the sites php based sites that got hit?
[00:28] <bean> dblinx: what scristopher says plus http://www.rfxn.com/projects/linux-malware-detect/ maldet will work well
[00:28] <gustavo> bean: windows viruses are made by smart people... bad scripts in linux are made by new or bad users
[00:28] <Ben64> dblinx: depends what you mean by "got hit"
[00:28] <filantropus> can someone tell me how i activate the java plug in mozilla firefox?
[00:28] <bean> gustavo: not necessarily.
[00:28] <dblinx> Scripts
[00:28] <scristopher> if they were php based sites that got injected depending on the obfuscation clamav may or may not detect it
[00:28] <Ben64> dblinx: reinstall
[00:28] <filantropus> pls
[00:29] <bean> you can try running maldet
[00:29] <scristopher> dblinx, were these websites that got injected with malware?
[00:29] <bean> on it
[00:29] <dblinx> Or restore from backup
[00:29] <bean> but that'll quarentine all bad files.
[00:29] <escott> filantropus, you should be aware there are multiple java zero-days out there in the wild. its not a safe thing to be doing
[00:29] <scristopher> or ?
[00:29] <dblinx> Yes
[00:29] <scristopher> well there is a easy way to find stuff if clamav doesnt
[00:30] <Ben64> if they were able to have a login on the computer, nothing is safe
[00:30] <scristopher> find . -name "*.php" | xargs grep base64 --- if it is base64 encoded stuff
[00:30] <filantropus> ?
[00:30] <dblinx> How... clam found 20 infectioned fikea
[00:30] <scristopher> clam should remove the stuff as well
[00:31] <scristopher> i like to get the base64 encoded crap and decode it, save it for later study myself
[00:31] <filantropus> i'm installing it from the java page
[00:31] <escott> filantropus, java is insecure. you should be very wary of using java in a webbrowser
[00:31] <Myrtti> escott: some banks in their infinite wisdom require sun java to use their Internet banking systems
[00:31] <escott> !openjdk | filantropus
[00:31] <escott> !info openjdk | filantropus
[00:31] <dblinx> Ill try that... what if its a x86...
[00:31] <filantropus> then, how can i run a game that needs java¡
[00:31] <filantropus> ?
[00:32] <escott> !info openjdk-7-jre
[00:32] <escott> filantropus, ^^^ finally thats the package
[00:33] <scristopher> dblinx, are you asking me?
[00:33] <escott> Myrtti, the last thing i would call the banking industry is "wise" certainly not infinite ;)
[00:33] <dblinx> Yes...
[00:33] <scristopher> ... im not sure what you mean by that because i think we are talking about 2 different things
[00:33] <daftykins> escott: probably why it's a common non-literal phrase :P
[00:33] <scristopher> base64 is the type of encryption alot of malware uses
[00:34] <scristopher> if you can find any y ou can decode it
[00:34] <filantropus> thanks.. but... how can i install that package...
[00:34] <Myrtti> escott: no kidding. my point being that openjdk/icedtea isn't always an option
[00:34] <filantropus> sorry, i'm new on this...
[00:34] <dblinx> Ok... wil try that and see
[00:35] <escott> Myrtti, that doesn't change the recommendation not to use it.
[00:35] <scristopher> dblinx, i recommend to use either php to decode base64 or this site http://www.whitefirdesign.com/tools/unobfuscate-php-hack-code.html
[00:35] <escott> filantropus, sudo apt-get install package-name
[00:35] <escott> !apt | filantropus
[00:35] <scristopher> if you find base64 code it will break down into plain text as long as its not a base64 encoded image
[00:36] <Myrtti> escott: besides, Firefox can be set to allow to run java only on set whitelisted domains.
[00:38] <escott> Myrtti, then perhaps you can tell filantropus how to setup that whitelist
[00:39] <lauratika> videos ending with .MOV extensions play sketchy no matter what player im using... totem,smplayer etc etc. any ideas why?
[00:39] <bean> lauratika, have you tried VLC? I wonder if it'd be better.
[00:39] <kouriinu> i need help with ubuntu can someone help me
[00:40] <damselfly9> possibly
[00:40] <bean> !ask | kouriinu
[00:40] <lauratika> i dont have it, but so far all other extensions pĺay well... wonder if there is an issue with this sort of files.
[00:40] <filantropus> Escott
[00:41] <filantropus> the instalation of package is done
[00:41] <filantropus> but the game still is asking for plug in.
[00:41] <bean> lauratika: vlc may help.
[00:41] <bean> lauratika: i prefer it on *nix, to be honest.
[00:41] <kouriinu> tried to download ubuntu but the program doesnt come up to say try or download it goes straight to /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found grub rescue tried boot repair it doesnt work
[00:41] <escott> filantropus, im sure there is a plugin package as well
[00:42] <escott> filantropus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Browser_plugin recommends the icedtea-7-plugin
[00:42] <bean> kouriinu: how many hard drives do you have
[00:42] <tty> I am wondering in bash can I take tree > (and have a different directory for a file to go.).
[00:42] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  you mean youy tried to download the ISO file from ubuntu.com? or what exactly
[00:43] <kamel> hello
[00:43] <kamel> :)
[00:43] <gwen_fifty-six> Hello! I'm french but I don't found a solution to my problem in the french documentation... I'm on Ubuntu Studio, and I can't use 2 screens in the same time because I have a shadow on my first monitor.... You can help me?
[00:43] <bean> tty: that would be a complicated script.
[00:43] <kouriinu> i mean that i put the iso on a disk (not on this computer ) and when i booted it it went straight to /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found
[00:43] <scristopher> tty, what do you mean
[00:44] <bean> kouriinu: so your live-cd does not boot? or after installation?
[00:44] <kouriinu> correct live-cd does not boot i have tried 3 other live-cd and they dont boot either
[00:44] <sw> !studio | gwen_fifty-six
[00:44] <scristopher> im not sure i understand but i would be happy to help with your script tty
[00:44] <bean> kouriinu: and that computer is set to boot off cd?
[00:45] <bean> kouriinu: what sort of computer is it?
[00:45] <kouriinu> i do believe so yes it is a dell insprion
[00:45] <bean> kouriinu: what model of inspiron
[00:46] <kouriinu> N5050
[00:46] <gwen_fifty-six> Ubottu, This isn't only a package, I have installed Ubuntu studio with a live CD, and I have the low latency 'noyau' too...
[00:46] <lauratika> try vlc and it's worst seems to be an issue with mp4 files...
[00:47] <tty> I can't write to the directory I want to use the tree < (file). So I want to make the file go to a directory that I can write to.
[00:48] <bean> kouriinu: hmm, i'm not sure what the issue would be. Ususally that happens after you install and grub doesn't install correctly. What OS was on the laptop before?
[00:48] <damselfly9> kouriinu; when you said you tried 3 different cd's, did you download each separately or did you just try using the same iso image three times?
[00:48] <escott> tty, is your use of "<" an indication you are asking about bash redirection?
[00:48] <scristopher> thats what im wondering
[00:48] <kouriinu> i downloaded three seperately
[00:48] <kouriinu> and it was windows 7
[00:49] <scristopher> simply writing a file to a directory should be easy, redirecting a file to a directory should be as well
[00:49] <burner___> can anyone help me get unity working?  Compiz keeps crashing and i'm left with no window management and no dash... if i get a term open quick enough, i can run openbox --replace and work without a dash yet, but I really want to try unity instead of xfce
[00:49] <kubotsu> or, he just wants to move the file .. fancy words decoded
[00:49] <scristopher> heh
[00:49] <damselfly9> kouriinu; do the downloaded iso files match their checksums?
[00:50] <kouriinu> i dont know
[00:50] <kouriinu> how do you know that
[00:50] <tty> I am taking < to write to file so I can see all the directories and files.
[00:50] <scristopher> oh
[00:50] <bean> kouriinu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Windows
[00:50] <scristopher> i think
[00:50] <bean> tty... are you just wanting a list of all files under this directory?
[00:51] <tty> Yes. But I want it in a txt but the problem is that I can make a text file that I am trying use tree on.
[00:52] <kouriinu> i can not use that because the computer i am trying to put it on does not reconize any os now and the computer i am downloading the iso on isnt windows
[00:52] <tty> can = can't
[00:52] <escott> tty, so you "tree > /full/path/to/somewhere/you/can/write"
[00:52] <kouriinu> how do i check it on ubuntu
[00:52] <shwaiil> Q: Is there a way to have Tabs or split screen in the terminal window ?
[00:52] <bean> kouriinu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM_on_Linux
[00:52] <escott> shwaiil, yes
[00:53] <bean> shwaiil: sure, there are lots of terminals and emulators that can split screen
[00:53] <scristopher> for i in $(ls filename); do mv $i -($date +%Y%m%d); done ?
[00:53] <damselfly9> kouriinu; if the cd never booted, how could it make your windows unbootable (?)
[00:53] <scristopher> something like that heh
[00:53] <scristopher> prolly not
[00:53] <scristopher> but its hard to tell
[00:53] <erg> i'm using pkg-config to get the libs path for linking to opencv, but it's searching in /usr/local/lib instead of /usr/lib. i removed the libs from that path but need to make it find the right ones.
[00:54] <bean> tty: why do you need to write it to a file?
[00:54] <kouriinu> well when i first put it in it booted downlaoded and then the grub error happened....i got the boot repair disk put it in it said it worked and when i put the boot disk back in it wouldnt pull up the ubuntu menue
[00:54] <erg> the /usr/lib/pkgconfig/opencv.pc file doesn't have any reference to /usr/local -- where is pkg-config getting /usr/local from?
[00:55] <kouriinu> the disk i used to boot ubuntu on the other computer was the same one i used to boot in on the another computer nad it worked fine
[00:55] <filantropus> hi Escott
[00:55] <filantropus> that plug in
[00:55] <kubotsu> i've had similar issues with burnt .iso's
[00:55] <filantropus> doesnt work...
[00:56] <kubotsu> even on the same computer , same disc wont work a second time .. quite wierd
[00:56] <damselfly9> weird, almost like the cd lost data almost immediately
[00:57] <guest29584> Can anyone suggest a good place to find some grub2 experts to look at the output of "bootinfoscript" and suggest some grub2 repairs? (I have already posed my question in #grub and am waiting for a response there.)
[00:57] <dr_willis> or the drive that burnt it was a little wonky or weak spots on the cd.
[00:57] <kouriinu> i have redownloaded and booted the re downloaded iso on another disk
[00:57] <escott> filantropus, is it listed in "about:plugins" in firefox? have you restarted firefox
[00:57] <kouriinu> and it STILL doesnt work
[00:57] <dr_willis> guest29584:  the askubuntu.com site and the forums
[00:57] <kouriinu> but itll playy other disks fine like itll use the boot repair disk fine just not the ubuntu iso disk
[00:57] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  try making a bootable usb may  be the best thing to try
[00:57] <filantropus> i have restarted firefox
[00:57] <escott> guest29584, you certainly won't find anyone with grub knowledge here. its not like ubuntu uses grub or anything
[00:58] <damselfly9> oh. just thought of something, what are the chances that the first ubuntu boot that worked wrote some garbage back to the cd because it was being booted in a burner?
[00:58] <kouriinu> i will try that but i can figure out how to make it bootable on my usb iv looked at videos but dont understand i guess im techilogically stupid
[00:58] <escott> damselfly9, 0
[00:59] <filantropus> what thats about:config thing?
[00:59] <escott> filantropus, just type it in like an address
[00:59] <filantropus> yes
[00:59] <filantropus> shows a great list
[00:59] <escott> filantropus, and i suggested about:plugins not config
[00:59] <filantropus> ups
[00:59] <filantropus> sorry
[00:59] <kouriinu> so how do i get it bootable on a usb
[01:00] <guest29584> dr_willis: Thanks, I'll look.  escott: Ha, nice. I meant no offense. Would you like to help?
[01:00] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  dozens of tools at the pendrivelinux site to put the iso on usb.
[01:00] <kouriinu> ok i will try that
[01:00] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  or theres imageing tools that basically do a direct data dump of the  iso to the usb. those can be the least problematic
[01:00] <filantropus> IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.3 (1.3-1ubuntu1.1))
[01:01] <escott> guest29584, if you would like to ask. its not offensive just silly. walk into the emergency room and ask if they have a phonebook because you need to call a surgeon
[01:01] <escott> filantropus, then you have the plugin.
[01:01] <filantropus> yes.
[01:01] <filantropus> but doesnt work...
[01:02] <Scunizi> I'm thinking of picking up a USB turntable. If you have experience with any that work please let me know.
[01:02] <escott> filantropus, then i dont really know. thats the official way to install it, but i havent had one installed in years so i have no real experience
[01:02] <filantropus> :(
[01:02] <filantropus> maybe i can probe with another plugin?
[01:03] <WBF> I know ndiswrapper doesn't work for ARM, but the driver that is required for my wifi dongle requires ndiswrapper ):
[01:03] <damselfly9> WBF; guess you need a different wifi dongle
[01:04] <dr_willis> glad i bought dongles that work out of the box  with linux. ;) amazon has several, got 3 differnt kinds for about $13 each
[01:05] <WBF> damselfly9: can someone at least help me with trying to get it to work? I need a driver made for arm.
[01:05] <weige> SB
[01:05] <weige> SB
[01:05] <weige> SB
[01:05] <FloodBot1> weige: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:05] <dr_willis> WBF:  there is the #ubuntu-arm channel - ive never ran ubuntu on arm. Only arm box i got is my Pi
[01:05] <damselfly9> WBF; I couldn't promise much, but what kind of wifi dongle is it?
[01:06] <weige> Ubuntu on Arm all shit
[01:06] <WBF> demselfly9: netgear wdna3100 v2
[01:06] <tty> Because of the tons of directories and files. I am doing this an executrices for a unix class of mine.
[01:07] <escott> tty, what is your primary language?
[01:07] <tty> English
[01:08] <escott> well nevermind...
[01:08] <dr_willis> ;^)
[01:08] <dr_willis> executrices>
[01:08] <dr_willis> ?
[01:08] <damselfly9> WBF; that dongle uses the BCM4323 chipset
[01:08] <weige> chinglish
[01:08] <weige> ALL FUCK U!
[01:08] <Lisa_Fox> executrices  plural of ex·ec·u·trix - Noun -
[01:08] <Lisa_Fox> A female executor of a will.
[01:08] <FloodBot1> weige: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <weige> .
[01:09] <weige> .
[01:09] <weige> .
[01:09] <FloodBot1> weige: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:09] <Ben64> some people just really don't like this channel
[01:10]  * Lisa_Fox nods
[01:11] <guest29584> escott: Sure, no problem, here you go.  http://paste.debian.net/228764/  It's a two-drive sata system, first one 500GB fairly normal, I think it was /boot /root /swap /home, maybe with rounding partitions between? The second one 350GB has 6 partitions w/ assorted OS's?
[01:11] <WBF> damselfly9: but, that requires ndiswrapper ): I want a linux driver written.
[01:11] <damselfly9> WBF; oh, you want someone to write a linux driver for you?
[01:12] <Ben64> i just buy chips that are compatible with linux
[01:12] <WBF> damselfly9: yes
[01:12] <escott> guest29584, ok... and what is the question
[01:12] <damselfly9> WBF; it won't happen because the programming info for the bcm4323 is not open source
[01:13] <WBF> damselfly9: ): I guess I'll never get wifi on my arm device, I'll just throw it out.
[01:13] <Ben64> you can get cheap usb wireless devices for <$10
[01:14] <damselfly9> WBF; you could get  different dongle instead of throwing away you arm device
[01:14] <pak> Hi all .. Can any one tell me from which  file I can get the current cpu temperature in ubuntu system
[01:14] <WBF> damselfly9: well I cannot now that it's out of the box and radioshack's horrible return policy ):
[01:14] <guest29584> escott: Well, after I temporarily installed an old DOS 6.22 drive for troubleshooting and removed it after, grub2 now doesn't seem to find anything bootable. I'm not sure why. I thought the script might help?
[01:14] <escott> !info lm-sensors | pak
[01:15] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone
[01:15] <damselfly9> WBF; then absorve the cost, buy another different dongle and give this one to a friend who uses windows
[01:15] <pak> ubottu, Thank you.. par i tried it and this is not able to detect the sensors..
[01:15] <escott> guest29584, what do you mean "installed dos 6.22" was it on another hard disk you attached and then removed?
[01:16] <pak> ubottu, I am getting this error.. /sys/bus/pci/devices: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/sensors-detect line 2900.
[01:16] <escott> guest29584, also please clarify cant find anything bootable. meaning nothing boots or windows doesnt boot
[01:16] <damselfly9> WBF; a second dongle is probably cheaper than a second arm device
[01:16] <pak> ubottu, I want to know he file from where it is reading the temperatures..
[01:17] <escott> pak, its not reading from a file
[01:17] <guest29584> escott: As far as I know, everything I did was virtual (on a VirtualBox image of the drive), but there could be a bug, error, problem?
[01:17] <pak> escott, So from where it is getting the data ?
[01:17] <escott> pak, or at least not all of it.
[01:18] <pak> escott, I am currently looking fo the cpu temperature part only..
[01:18] <escott> pak, lots of places. querying the i2c bus for instance
[01:18] <escott> pak, find /sys -iname "*temp*" or find /sys -iname "*therm*"
[01:19] <escott> pak, how these things work changes depending on what chipset you have
[01:19] <pak> I am looking for arm chipset.
[01:20] <guest29584> escott: I don't have the message in front of me, but it is not finding anything to boot, and not coming up with the boot menu. A long sentence about insert boot media I think it said. Not my lengthy grub2 menu.
[01:20] <escott> guest29584, is this a message from the bios or from grub's preloader?
[01:21] <escott> guest29584, sounds like a message from the bios which suggests you need to go into the bios and confirm the correct boot device is selected
[01:21] <Vivekananda> anyone familiar with bash script. It is a quick and simple question. I am just replacing \w the PS1 with \W but it seems not to work .
[01:21] <Vivekananda> http://pastebin.com/qawuac9Z
[01:21] <guest29584> escott: I'm not completely sure, It's been a long time since I had to deal with either. Is there a page where I can peruse grub2 messages?
[01:22] <escott> guest29584, grub would never say "insert boot media" so if it says that its the bios
[01:22] <pak> escott, Thank you.. I got it .. it reading from /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/temp2_input file..
[01:25] <usuario_> paco1
[01:26] <guest29584> escott: As far as I know, the correct boot device is selected. I was paraphrasing a long message in a few words. I am running on an Ubuntu live CD now, and I can see, mount, browse, etc. the two drives in question. I tried a simple sudo ubdate-grub, but got "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?)."
[01:26] <escott> guest29584, if you are going to update grub from the livecd you need to chroot first. did you do that? do you know how to do that? your grub.cfg looks ok
[01:28] <escott> guest29584, i would write down or take a  picture of the error message you are getting so we can figure out exactly where it is coming from
[01:28] <guest29584> escott: Oops, sorry, s/ubdate/update/  No, this is the first time anything like this has happened. Do you have a link?
[01:28] <escott> guest29584, i would not waste your time with a chroot just yet
[01:29] <guest29584> escott: OK, I will write the message down if/when I reboot. In the meantime, is there a place where I can look at likely suspect messages from grub2?
[01:30] <guest29584> escott:  (Perhaps I can identify it from memory.)
[01:30] <escott> guest29584, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:36] <uiopqwer> how can i get notifications-daemon to display multiple bubbles. older versions used to do this :(
[01:37] <n0sq> is there a way to fix my sudoer file even though i can't get into it? or will i have to re-install ubuntu?
[01:38] <escott> n0sq, you can boot the livecd and chroot in or boot to the rescue/single user mode
[01:45] <Amine> hello
[01:47] <MichaelP> what is the best site for plymouth boot screens ?
[01:48] <antonio__> There is never anyone active in kdenlive
[01:50] <katharma_> hello
[01:50] <katharma_> http://www.neobux.com/?r=katharma  Make money online guaranteed
[01:51] <harrisr> how do i transfer music from ubuntu to itouch 4 ios 6 dr_willis
[01:52] <escott> !ipod | harrisr
[01:53] <harrisr> that doesnt help
[01:54] <harrisr> when i go to rythmbox it says initilize and it wont let me select model number
[01:55] <k1l> harrisr: the newest ios thingies are not reverse engeneered so far.  as far as i know you have to use itunes in wine for that
[01:55] <harrisr> how do i get it to work in wine
[01:58] <MichaelP> Whats a good site with good plymouth boot screens ?
[01:59] <bakpak2hvy> try themacuser.org
[01:59] <bakpak2hvy> dis gun b gud
[01:59] <JakeR5555> hello
[02:00] <bakpak2hvy> hey there
[02:00] <JakeR5555> i have a problem with evince and apparmor
[02:00] <bakpak2hvy> im not familiar with apparmor
[02:01] <JakeR5555> when i open a pdf file in it and go to my shared windows harddisk it won't allow me to create a folder but it allows me to save the file in already created folder
[02:01] <bakpak2hvy> but what seems to be the problem?
[02:01] <harrisr> k1l, how do iget itunes to work with wine
[02:01] <bakpak2hvy> ^use windows
[02:01] <MichaelP> bakpak2hvy, where the themes on there? or is that a site to screw with mac users
[02:01] <harrisr> cant
[02:01] <escott> JakeR5555, shared via samba?
[02:01] <marcusw> don't use itunes
[02:01] <marcusw> >using linux
[02:01] <darksidesimmons> JakeR5555, creating the directory using windows?
[02:02] <marcusw> >want to run closed source
[02:02] <harrisr> well i need to move my songs to ipod touch 4
[02:02] <bakpak2hvy> MichaelP: i dont understand your question
[02:02] <JakeR5555> darkside from linux
[02:02] <bakpak2hvy> harrisr: have you tried not using shitty apple products?
[02:02] <JakeR5555> outside evince i can create a directory but from inside evince it reject the mkdir
[02:03] <JakeR5555> apparmor stopping me
[02:03] <harrisr> i have a android tablet but just bought ipod touch for mobility
[02:03] <bakpak2hvy> harrisr: again, no shitty apple products
[02:03] <harrisr> too bad
[02:03] <OerHeks> !iphone
[02:03] <harrisr> its for my wife
[02:04] <bakpak2hvy> no excuses
[02:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone can help me with conky, and the caviar dreams font in particular?
[02:04] <MichaelP> bakpak2hvy, i asked for a good plymouth boot screen site.. you said try http://themacuser.org/ ... No themes.. Looks a a joke site to F*ck with mac users
[02:04] <bakpak2hvy> oh, you're looking for something like two kids in a sandbox
[02:04] <justmeh> harrisr, first, apple products are not shitty
[02:04] <justmeh> interfaces are sparse, and devices tend to be locked in
[02:04] <harrisr> i know i never said they were
[02:04] <justmeh> but just moving some songs?
[02:04] <justmeh> no u didnt
[02:04] <harrisr> yeah
[02:05] <bakpak2hvy> i did!
[02:05] <justmeh> [18:03:30] <bakpak2hvy> harrisr: again, no shitty apple products
[02:05] <justmeh> that was for bakpak2hvy
[02:05] <justmeh> anyway, ive used a lot of programs, usually you can just plug the device in and the default system audio player will deal with it, or have a plugin for it
[02:06] <KylieBrooks> so fireeefox sux for memory
[02:06] <not-bakpak2hvy> lol im back
[02:07] <harrisr> it says to initilize it in rythmbox but wont let me click model number
[02:07] <justmeh> !ops not-bakpak2hvy ban-evasion
[02:07] <justmeh> !op not-bakpak2hvy ban-evasion
[02:07] <darksidesimmons> JakeR555, sounds like permissions ls -lah or sudo chmod 777 -R <directory name> as a test or disable apparmor apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.evince
[02:07] <justmeh> srry k1l not sure of the current trigger, thx
[02:07] <harrisr> why is he banned
[02:07] <justmeh> language
[02:08] <harrisr> can i be an op
[02:08] <justmeh> not exactly.. :P
[02:08] <harrisr> why?
[02:08] <justmeh> !rules | harrisr
[02:08] <JakeR5555> dark good
[02:08] <harrisr> i have a good attitidue
[02:08] <JakeR5555> so...  apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.evince
[02:08] <darksidesimmons> what was your fix?
[02:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone? I got conky and my theme all working right, just I get those character blocks here and there. I think I just don't have the right font, and just want to install a font
[02:09] <justmeh> Ubuntu Core Channel Guidelines <-
[02:09] <justmeh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil
[02:09] <darksidesimmons> weird it was apparmor after all
[02:09] <harrisr> what about it
[02:09] <darksidesimmons> :)
[02:09] <justmeh> you asked why, now you can find out
[02:09] <justmeh> the short answer is no, the longer answer is maybe
[02:09] <bak-again> lol guise
[02:09] <harrisr> anyway rythmbox wants to initilize my itouch but wont let me select model number
[02:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> the conky config files reference two fonts, caviar dreams and Santana. How do I check if the fonts are installed?
[02:10] <JakeR5555> darksidesimmons thanks you help me.. i didnt even think about it that way
[02:10] <escott> harrisr, there is presumably a reason for that. apple is known for intentionally breaking any application that attempts to talk to their products that is not itunes. its probably related to that
[02:10] <harrisr> i need to put my songs on my ipod
[02:11] <escott> harrisr, then you need to get itunes running either
[02:11] <escott> !wine | harrisr
[02:11] <justmeh> i usually use gtkpod
[02:11] <harrisr> i tried
[02:11] <escott> harrisr, or you can try a virtualization tool
[02:11] <kevinmthomas> hi
[02:11] <harrisr> it says something about choose a source
[02:11] <harrisr> how]
[02:12] <justmeh> just skip it and use the wine solution
[02:12] <justmeh> back everything up, then try rhythmbox
[02:12] <justmeh> i cannot guardsmen you will not experience data loss otherwise
[02:12] <justmeh> s/guardsmen/guarantee
[02:12] <kevinmthomas> i have a question does anyone know why ytalk and talk dont work in a terminal?
[02:12] <harrisr> justmeh can we pm
[02:12] <justmeh> no
[02:12] <harrisr> please
[02:13] <harrisr> all these people are confusing
[02:13] <justmeh> iphone 5 is popular the troubleshooting needs to stay in common chats
[02:13] <harrisr> Justasic, iPod directory structure not found
[02:13] <justmeh> harrisr, then its just not working for you
[02:13] <darksidesimmons> I think we still need to modify the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.evince as better solution
[02:13] <justmeh> or its got the wrong mount
[02:13] <marcusw> #ubuntu-iboughtapplecrapnowhalpmeplox
[02:13] <justmeh> [18:11:26] <justmeh> i usually use gtkpod
[02:14] <JakeR5555> darksidesimmons i don't need that kind of protection. i know it may cause somebody to hack me.. MAYBE, but i don't need it
[02:14] <kevinmthomas> anyone have issues with ytalk?
[02:14] <JakeR5555> i really appericate your help
[02:14] <k1l> marcusw: stop that. be helpfull if you want to help
[02:14] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone I have a small problem with the bash and changin \w to \W does not work. http://pastebin.com/ewENdp37
[02:14] <marcusw> actually, I would like to ask a question
[02:14] <harrisr> ok i clicked ok and entered my model number but error initializing iPod:  Unsupported checksum type
[02:14] <darksidesimmons> this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/778638 explains both approaches
[02:15] <marcusw> why don't we have amazon ads in this chan?
[02:15] <JakeR5555> darksidesimmons yeah but i didnt know how put permission for my shared windows harddisks.. it just didnt work. took hours of my time
[02:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> I am glad we don't, it would look like hell to me, I am using irssi
[02:15] <kevinmthomas> anyone?
[02:16] <justmeh> kevinmthomas, what?
[02:16] <justmeh> btw hide join/parts in your options if the chan moves too much @ noobs
[02:16] <guest29584> escott: Thanks for your help, I have a few things to try now, but I'll have to reboot. If I come back, I'll bring that boot-time error message with me. Thanks again.
[02:16] <kevinmthomas> i have ytalk installed it wont connect both parties just hang
[02:16] <justmeh> ah not running that, sorry
[02:17] <kevinmthomas> how about talk
[02:17] <darksidesimmons> any snmpv3 experts around?
[02:17] <kevinmthomas> is there any terminal chats avail in a server os?
[02:17] <dyadic_> hay guys I keep get sugges for tollet cleanser when try 2 run terminol from Dash how disable amazoom spy
[02:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> use irssi kevinmthomas for irc
[02:18] <justmeh> pidgen i think has a cli package
[02:18] <justmeh> *pidgin
[02:18] <kevinmthomas> yes irc works great but i mean or an inter server chat
[02:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, dunno
[02:19] <kevinmthomas> pidgin is graphical
[02:19] <k1l> dyadic_: you can easily disable the amazon search in the system settings
[02:19] <dr_willis> kevinmthomas: years ago there used to be  talk. but ut was annoying
[02:20] <kevinmthomas> yes talk just hangs now dosent work im looking for something like it
[02:20] <dr_willis> !find talk
[02:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> I completely removed unity and the launcher, I use gnome-fallback
[02:20] <primius> hello, I run a website which sells penis enlargement merchandise, I was wondering who I should talk to about an affiliate agreement for ubuntu desktop integration
[02:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> !find caviar
[02:20] <justmeh> try finch
[02:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> damn
[02:20] <dr_willis> kevinmthomas:  yiu have used talk befor?
[02:21] <kevinmthomas> i did try finch also graphicl
[02:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, why did it check for quantal? I use precise
[02:21] <justmeh> there's a cli package for finch
[02:21] <kevinmthomas> finch doesent work in a terminal
[02:21] <kevinmthomas> oh cli?
[02:22] <dyadic_> primius: i dont want ur penis product when search 4 terminalo r wen i try running my chrome thanks but no thx
[02:22] <antonio__> is it possible to delete all packages that were installed on a certain day?
[02:22] <antonio__> trying to install kdenlive from source is a pain!
[02:22] <tylerwoodward> I have a question. I want to make a copy of my install so I can install it on another PC. What is the best way of doing this?
[02:23] <primius> dyadic_: it's ok, just click on the ads and they'll go away
[02:23] <NOnick> serbiancafe
[02:23] <linuxman> k1l is having a busy saturday morning :D
[02:23] <kevinmthomas> the other issue i have is my pop and imap are closed i cant seem to use a mail client to check myy mail
[02:23] <justmeh> tylerwoodward, several
[02:24] <justmeh> looks like deja dup is the defualt backup program now
[02:25] <qwebirc170963> MY NAME IS MARK SHUTTLEWORTH
[02:25] <spundun> hi all...
[02:25] <antonio__> WHY ARE WE SCREAMING
[02:25] <spundun> how do I install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.7 using apt-get or synaptic?
[02:26] <justmeh> http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/
[02:26] <justmeh> that looks like the easiest
[02:26] <spundun> I'm on ubuntu 12.04.1
[02:26] <kevinmthomas> anyone have issue with getting mail o work on a client however it works in terminal
[02:26] <tylerwoodward> He really wants us to know his name.
[02:26] <justmeh> @ tylerwoodward
[02:26] <tylerwoodward> Yes, justmeh?
[02:26] <justmeh> look up
[02:26] <linuxman> lol
[02:26] <tylerwoodward> Oh I see
[02:26] <linuxman> so many trolls at this hours..
[02:26] <justmeh> linuxman, lol
[02:27] <rhin0> why do I get 10 updates for "generic kernel" 20 minutes after doing a full update (after installation) (xubuntu 12.04)
[02:27] <rhin0> whats "generic kernel"
[02:27] <BluesKaj> just don't feed the trolls , and maybe they'll go away
[02:27] <Mathias> any programs that'll paste lines into a window that doesn't like ctrl+v(and such)? (i.e. typing them for you)
[02:27] <justmeh> !generic
[02:27] <rhin0> ok thanks
[02:27] <justmeh> np\
[02:27] <tylerwoodward> Thanks justmeh. That looks like what I need.
[02:28] <justmeh> np tylerwoodward
[02:28] <lulzorz> BluesKaj: or gag them for mention of ZOMG AMAZON ADS, that works too
[02:28] <lulzorz> it's clear that this is a user-supported feature and that these unsavory characters are a fringe group which should be marginalized as heavy-handedly as possible
[02:29] <antonio__> is it possible to delete all packages that were installed on a certain day?
[02:29] <justmeh> hm
[02:29] <BluesKaj> it's a full moon .. the goofballs are out in force
[02:29] <justmeh> i would look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ for files created that day
[02:30] <justmeh> then apt-get --purge remove them
[02:30] <justmeh> there will likely be collateral damage
[02:32] <antonio__> I think I'll just reinstall ubuntu and try again
[02:32] <spundun> I'm trying to find gcc 4.7 for my ubuntu 12.04.1. I'd rather not compile it myself.
[02:33] <spundun> with clang I did the same using nice directions here. https://launchpad.net/~h-rayflood/+archive/llvm
[02:34] <kouriinu> i got the ubuntu to boot but i still get the /grub/i386-pc/normal.mod error
[02:34] <kouriinu> how do i fix that
[02:34] <spundun> I found a package for gcc-4.7 here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.7
[02:34] <spundun> but I don't know how to cleanly get it into my system like I did with clang
[02:34] <bean> kouriinu: by doing a grub-install on your drive you're booting off of.
[02:35] <kouriinu> how do i do that
[02:37] <spundun> oh looks like it's for ubuntu 12.10
[02:37] <kouriinu> how do i do a grub install on the driver
[02:39] <Mathias> nvm, i think i managed to get an answer from google, after 30 tries. well well :P
[02:40] <bean> kouriinu: is there only one drive?
[02:40] <bean> kouriinu: if only one drive "grub-install /dev/sda" on the command line, I believe.
[02:40] <kouriinu> drive?
[02:40] <M61> Hi guys anybody can help me with GRUB2 issue on loading Ubuntu 12.10? Only Win7 is listed :( tried the troubleshooting already and I have the paste.ubuntu.com URL
[02:40] <kouriinu> what command line
[02:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> partition
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> M61: do you have the live cd still?
[02:41] <M61> USByes
[02:41] <bean> kouriinu: the terminal
[02:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> boot it, you will need to add a ppa and install a package, let me get the commands for your M61
[02:41] <kouriinu> i cant get it to pull up
[02:42] <Dave77> is there ubuntu 64bit v 12.10 available?  when I try download "get ubuntu 12.10" it gives me 12.04
[02:42] <bean> kouriinu: i can't help
[02:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup, I had it but downgraded for 12.04 Dave77
[02:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Is qt creator the only worthwhile ide for developing?
[02:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> kouriinu: press ctrl+alt+t
[02:42] <M61> Dave: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[02:43] <kouriinu> i did
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> kouriinu: what version of ubuntu do you have?
[02:43] <Neytiri> how would i completly cone my harddisk?
[02:43] <kouriinu> 12.10
[02:43] <Dave77> M61: yes it tries to send me file "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso"
[02:43] <Mathias> Neytiri: tried dd?
[02:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm, strange Dave77 .
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> kouriinu: Press ctrl+f2 then tell it to run gnome-terminal
[02:44] <bean> Dave77: grabs 12.10 for me...
[02:44] <kouriinu> nothing comes up
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> M61: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[02:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> M61: sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[02:44] <bean> Dave77: http://ftp-mirror.internap.com/pub/ubuntu-releases//quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[02:45] <kouriinu> wait it says an error occured while attempting to process this problem report unknown encoding idna
[02:45] <nibblll> Neytiri: dd for real clone. but check "hard disk upgrade mini howto" for other good approaches
[02:45] <Dave77> thanks.. if there is a bug in file download page.. who would fix it?
[02:45] <M61> ntzrmtthihu777: done it, few times already still it loads only WIN7
[02:45] <bean> kouriinu: you should probably just reinstall if there is nothing you care about on there.
[02:45] <bean> And during that process it will fix your problems
[02:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> bean: Dave77 wants 64 bit, not 32 bit
[02:45] <kouriinu> i just did re isntall it its the only way i got it up again
[02:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> strange, very strange M61
[02:46] <M61> Dave77: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?release=latest&bits=64&distro=desktop&status=zeroc
[02:46] <bean> Dave77: http://ubuntu.mirrors.pair.com/releases//quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[02:46] <bean> theres the actual iso
[02:47] <M61> ntzrmtthihu777: I have the config URL if you can have a look?
[02:47] <Dave77> right problem was I had JS disabled to stop the annoying cookie warning
[02:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> I am no experd, M61. Just pointing out stuff I had to do myself
[02:47] <M61> okay
[02:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> but, if you don't mind, I will have a look
[02:48] <M61> it's weird tho, okay thanks sent it in pvt msg
[02:48] <bean> kouriinu: well, something went wrong on your install process
[02:49] <bean> !fixgrub
[02:49] <bean> kouriinu: does it drop you into any sort of prompt when it gives you the error?
[02:50] <kouriinu> nope
[02:50] <BWMerlin> I keep getting the following error, how can I correct it? "The following packages have unmet dependencies: glx-diversions : PreDepends: nvidia-installer-cleanup but it is not installable  Recommends: glx-alternative-mesa E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[02:51] <bean> kouriinu: if you can boot up the live cd again, can you run "grub-install /dev/sda"
[02:51] <bean> BWMerlin: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ont he command line, maybe
[02:51] <kouriinu> ok how do i do that
[02:52] <bean> kouriinu: open up the program "terminal" once you get it booted.
[02:52] <kouriinu> ok
[02:52] <arooni-mobile> my chrome ubuntu 12.04 latest version seems to be crashing.  ideas?
[02:52] <bean> arooni-mobile: as in chromebook?
[02:52] <cakeboss> Hey all. I need to convert from .img to .bin, how can I do this in ubuntu?
[02:53] <arooni-mobile> bean, no i have ubuntu 12.04; chrome is an app
[02:53] <kouriinu> i tried to re isntall it now it send me to busy box
[02:53] <arooni-mobile> i see: Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated.
[02:53] <kouriinu> it says built in shell
[02:53] <kouriinu> (initramsfs)
[02:53] <bean> kouriinu: it really sounds like something is broken with that computer, maybe.
[02:53] <bean> arooni-mobile: oh, you said "chrome ubuntu 12.04 latest version", so i was confused.  it is chromium or google chrome
[02:54] <dr_willis> cakeboss:  you mean a cdrom image? to a cue/bin ?  theres some command line tools in the repos i recall.
[02:54] <BWMerlin> bean: no luck with that
[02:54] <kouriinu> its a new computer so...
[02:54] <kouriinu> yeah
[02:55] <bean> kouriinu: so why are you deciding to use ubuntu?
[02:56] <kouriinu> my friend wanted something other than windows and my other friend suggested ubuntu they said itw as a good program
[02:56] <kouriinu> and well it works good for me
[02:56] <kouriinu> just not on my friends computer
[02:56] <bean> I would love to help you get it installed, but I don't think I can really help at this point.
[02:56] <kouriinu> can you point me to anyone who can
[02:57] <bean> kouriinu: everyone here is a volunteer. Maybe someone else can help.
[02:57] <kouriinu> i understand i just wondered if you have a site or someone specific that you could point me to
[02:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> q me kouriinu and I'll see what I can do
[02:57] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  there a huge varity of hardware out there.. so its never going to be perfect.
[02:57] <kouriinu> what is q me and well ill do what i can to
[02:58] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777, kouriinu: you should probably just discuss it in here.
[02:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> q = query, private message
[02:58] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  its always possible the next release will work with no hassles on his hardware
[02:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> hard to keep up with 4-5 convos going at once, plus people coming and going
[02:59] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  brand nes/just came out  this month kind of hardware will almost always be  the most likely to be problematic.  it takes time to work out bugs in the new stuff
[02:59] <joseneto> My ACER ASPIRE 5532 camera is not being recognized
[02:59] <bean> kouriinu: you said inspiron N5050 right?
[02:59] <bean> that's not *super* new.
[03:00] <bean> or maybe it is.
[03:00] <bean> hgmmm
[03:00] <bean> I wonder if it has a weird bootloader or something
[03:01] <kouriinu> i did yes
[03:01] <dr_willis> bean:  also depends on the release being used.. if you are using 12.04 -  anything thats  came out after it was released could be prone to problems.
[03:01] <bean> yeah...
[03:01] <dr_willis> since it wasent avaiable to test befor release
[03:01] <bean> kouriinu: you said 12.10 right?
[03:01] <dr_willis> or even stuff out a month or 2 befor release
[03:01] <kouriinu> i understand and i wouldnt care if there was another OS on the comupter
[03:01] <kouriinu> yes
[03:03] <krazed> Is there an official 12.04 torrent w/ gnome3?
[03:03] <bean> kouriinu: you should try 12.04
[03:03] <bean> kouriinu: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201105-8079/ ubuntu says that the Inspiron 15 N5050 is certified to work
[03:03] <dr_willis> krazed:  theres no official gnome-3 only  ubuntu.
[03:03] <zack> hi
[03:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> yup, there is a torrent of 12.04, but I think you will have to install gnome3 yourself
[03:04] <dr_willis> krazed:  theres unofficial ones.. ;)
[03:04] <kouriinu> thast good
[03:04] <zack> hello?
[03:04] <dr_willis> krazed:  you mean to be saying 'gome-shell' when you say gnome3 right? since unity uses gnome3
[03:05] <krazed> dr_willis: Thanks, I meant like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10 but for .04.
[03:05] <bean> zack: hi?
[03:05] <linuxman> gome :D
[03:05] <boko> lol
[03:05] <joseneto> My ACER ASPIRE 5532 camera is not being recognized
[03:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> I use gnome-fallback myself, unity just doesnt do it for me
[03:06] <dr_willis> krazed:  if you need the latest gnome-shell  from a pps or unorricial source.. then i dont see the reason to stick tgo 12.04 ;)
[03:06] <Triups> I am running ubuntu 12.10.  I prefer to make my own firewall scripts...what is ubuntu's method of doing this?
[03:06] <linuxman> like iptables?
[03:06] <dr_willis> !firewall
[03:06] <boko> running 12.04 thru descentos
[03:06] <dr_willis> boko:  and whats DescentOs?
[03:07] <boko> its ubuntu with MATE desktop
[03:07] <boko> and a couple other nice features, its on distrowatch
[03:07] <Triups> linuxman, yes, I mean iptables.  Just wondering where ubuntu likes this done.  I will try those linkes dr_willis brought up for me
[03:07] <joseneto> My ACER ASPIRE 5532 camera is not being recognized
[03:08] <dr_willis> joseneto:  tried it in cheese?
[03:08] <bean> joseneto: yeah, try installing cheese and see if it shows up there, also be a bit more patient, we usually have to google your issue before replying.
[03:08] <joseneto> i wuld if anyone would help
[03:08] <joseneto> ok
[03:08] <bean> joseneto: !patience
[03:08] <joseneto> sorry
[03:08] <boko> lol cheese
[03:09] <bean> !patience
[03:09] <dr_willis> webcams seem to either work out of the box.. or are totally new/unsupported.. from what ive seen
[03:09] <kevinmthomas> I have a question regarding setting up POP3 and IMAP, I have successfully installed Postfix and I am receiving emails from the outside world and I am able to send however I cant setup a client as the ports are blocked and I have them opened on my router ports 143 and 110
[03:09] <bean> kevinmthomas: is this at your home? or on a server.
[03:09] <kevinmthomas> well its my server
[03:09] <kevinmthomas> i am running here
[03:10] <kevinmthomas> its ubuntu server 12.04
[03:10] <bean> kevinmthomas: just saying that some ISPs block outgoing mail
[03:10] <justmeh> @ joseneto you were given an answer: try cheese
[03:10] <joseneto> i am
[03:10] <dr_willis> !info cheese
[03:10] <kevinmthomas> oh
[03:10] <joseneto> justmeh : iam
[03:10] <kevinmthomas> when i run a portscan 110 and 143 are closed as they are open in the router
[03:10] <justmeh> joseneto, cool ;)
[03:10] <kevinmthomas> when i remove them from teh router they become stealth again
[03:11] <dr_willis> stealth  ;)
[03:11] <justmeh> kevinmthomas, are you doing port triggering or forwarding?
[03:11] <kevinmthomas> well im not sure I am new to this
[03:11] <justmeh> triggering might not be so reliable..
[03:11] <kevinmthomas> i belive its port forwarding
[03:11] <justmeh> k
[03:11] <kevinmthomas> in my cisco router
[03:11] <justmeh> is the mail server on your local network?
[03:11] <kevinmthomas> however the ports are blocked
[03:11] <bean> kevinmthomas: so you're trying to connect from the outside world to your ubuntu server at your house
[03:11] <kevinmthomas> the mail sever is on the local server
[03:12] <justmeh> nmap yourself
[03:12] <kevinmthomas> yes see - i can send and receive emails just fine its using a program like thunderbird
[03:12] <joseneto> justmeh, almost there (installing)
[03:12] <kevinmthomas> where the problem occurs
[03:12] <justmeh> k?
[03:12] <kevinmthomas> or outlook
[03:12]  * justmeh nodds @ kevinmthomas 
[03:12] <justmeh> that's not the same though
[03:12] <kevinmthomas> so i beleive it is related to the closed ports
[03:13] <kevinmthomas> hmmm
[03:13] <justmeh> thunderbird or the other is trying to connect to 1.2.4.5:xyz
[03:13] <bean> kevinmthomas: well, you need to make sure your forwarding is right in your router.
[03:13] <justmeh> when running a mail server its YOURIP:xyz
[03:13] <justmeh> so if your isp has that port closed then you are unable to run one
[03:13] <joseneto> justmeh, it installed and i had no success :-(
[03:13] <arooni-mobile> hi folks i see "Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated." ... when i try to start up chrome.  i'm not really sure what i need to do to make it work again..   ubuntu 12.10;  latest chrome
[03:13] <kevinmthomas> i have comcast
[03:13] <kevinmthomas> i did a google search
[03:14] <Mathias> e
[03:14] <Mathias> end
[03:14] <scristopher> just run it on a different port?
[03:14] <bean> arooni-mobile: thats a "warning" not a critical
[03:14] <justmeh> comcast?
[03:14] <justmeh> oh ahahaha
[03:14] <kevinmthomas> and found info all over the map
[03:14] <justmeh> for sure you need to call support and ask them to open the port
[03:14] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  its just a warning.. are you  using a personal   .fonts.conf ?
[03:14] <justmeh> (whois'd you)
[03:14] <kevinmthomas> here is a dumb question - when a port is closed and it is open in the router, is it definately teh ISP?
[03:14] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, its crashing tho
[03:14] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  i imagine its not from that warning then.
[03:14] <justmeh> no
[03:15] <bean> kevinmthomas: fwiw, I don't recommend running mail on a residential network. lol
[03:15] <kevinmthomas> i hear you bean
[03:15] <justmeh> PC (firewall, daemons) -> router -> modem -> net
[03:15] <justmeh> any one of those can close it
[03:15] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  i recall there being some command line options to use a failsafe/clean  profile you may want to try. it could be a plugin causing the issue
[03:15] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, how can i do that
[03:15] <kevinmthomas> i dont belive there is a firewall open in ubuntu server
[03:16] <kevinmthomas> i looked for that
[03:16] <bean> there is, but its not on by default
[03:16] <justmeh> kevinmthomas, i'm gonna scan ur ports
[03:16] <kevinmthomas> ok
[03:16] <kevinmthomas> please do
[03:16] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  check the command line options to the browser      normally    command --help     will show them
[03:16] <justmeh> scanning
[03:16] <justmeh> come to #flood kevin
[03:17] <kevinmthomas> join the room #flood?
[03:17] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  or just move/rename your browsers config dir/cache  and see if it starts normally from a clean state
[03:17] <justmeh> join already
[03:17] <justmeh> yeah
[03:18] <adcifu> hi
[03:20] <joseneto> justmeh, ......
[03:21] <justmeh> joseneto, sorry let me flag the others
[03:21] <justmeh> i was just pointing out they did give you one thing to do
[03:21] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, tried with --disable-extensions; still crashin
[03:21] <joseneto> ok
[03:22] <justmeh> dr_willis @ joseneto plz
[03:22] <justmeh> bean also plz
[03:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> hm
[03:26] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  try as a newly made user perhaps. or the guest user.
[03:28] <justmeh> dr_willis, @ joseneto plz
[03:28] <justmeh> cheese failed
[03:28] <joseneto> yes
[03:28] <dr_willis> justmeh:  sounds liek an unsupported camera to me.
[03:29] <dr_willis> bbl
[03:29] <justmeh> joseneto, how about using lspci to find the camera's id and googling it
[03:29] <justmeh> or googling the camera + 12.10 precise
[03:29] <joseneto> ok lets try
[03:30] <justmeh> run: sudo lspci -vvv and pastebin it
[03:31] <joseneto> justmeh , http://pastebin.com/d6EkaWhw
[03:32] <justmeh> i don't really see it there..
[03:32] <justmeh> your gonna have to google the notebook model and see what you find i think
[03:32] <joseneto> i did
[03:32] <joseneto> i found nothing
[03:33] <joseneto> in this specific model
[03:33] <craigbass1976> Is there no chromium-browser for 12.04 on a ppc laptop?
[03:33] <joseneto> but i also have another camera which is a microsoft and it doesnt get recognized
[03:33] <bean> craigbass1976: i doubt it.
[03:33] <CIarence> hi all
[03:34] <craigbass1976> bean, no soup for you!
[03:35] <CryptoSec> hello to everyone in #ubuntu channel room... I'm running 12.04 and I'm having a problem printing text documents to my HL-2140 brother printer... in one of my attempts... I tried printing a 4 page documents but all i get is an endless papers coming out of my printer with  zero texts printed on any one of the pages....  And it just keeps printing pages after pages way beyond the 4th page.  ...
[03:35] <CryptoSec> ...What do you guys think the problem might be?? drivers messed up?
[03:35] <craigbass1976> CryptoSec, I'm surprised.  HP has been good about giving out drivers
[03:36] <craigbass1976> CryptoSec, Oops, that's a brother, isn't it?
[03:37] <craigbass1976> CryptoSec, did you grab the driver from their site?
[03:37] <craigbass1976> CryptoSec, http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/index.html
[03:38] <joseneto> help
[03:40] <CryptoSec> craigbass1976: it's a Brother brand.... I just used the drivers that came with ubuntu...
[03:43] <misterswag> trying to create a symlink for /var/lib/mysql to /srv/mysql
[03:43] <misterswag> how would i copy it to /srv/mysql?
[03:43] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, which place are you trying to make the symlink at?
[03:44] <craigbass1976> CryptoSec, try the ones on brother's site
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> i assume /srv/mysql would be the link to /var/lib/mysql?
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, ^
[03:44] <misterswag> yes TheLordOfTime
[03:44] <misterswag> so sudo cp -R -p?
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, sudo ln -s /var/lib/mysql /srv/mysql
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> assuming /srv/ exists and needs superuser creation rights.
[03:44] <misterswag> thanks TheLordOfTime
[03:44] <TheLordOfTime> s/creation/modification/
[03:44] <misterswag> yes it does
[03:45] <puff> When I try to install or remove a package, I get an error 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable.
[03:45] <puff> https://gist.github.com/a3c3d4eb084dd373c9e2
[03:45] <misterswag> to copy /var/lib/mysql over there TheLordOfTime do i do sudo cp -R -p /var/lib/mysql /srv/mysql?
[03:45] <Barfolomew> has anyone gotten emacspeak to work?
[03:45] <puff> I'm looking at a forum thread about downloadnig libc and manually extracting ldconfig, but I'd like to understand what went wrong to begin with.
[03:46] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, this is why symlinks exist: you don't need to copy them all over if they exist elsewhere, just set up the symlink with the command i gave you
[03:46] <misterswag> oh im trying to move it out of /var/lib
[03:46] <misterswag> since its limited space
[03:46] <misterswag> :)
[03:46] <misterswag> and symlink it back so i dont have to mess with apparmor
[03:46] <misterswag> and the configs
[03:47] <CryptoSec> craigbass1976: should I use the cupswrapper or LPR driver? It's the first time I came across such a decision for my printer?
[03:47] <misterswag> TheLordOfTime, so my objective is copy it out to /srv/ and symlink it back
[03:47] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, erm... i don't advise that, since the mysql executable uses /var/lib/mysql...
[03:47] <TheLordOfTime> s/executable/process/
[03:48] <misterswag> yeah so cant i cp it to /srv/mysql
[03:48] <misterswag> and symlink it back to /var/lib/mysql
[03:48] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, ideally first, you turn off the mysql process first...
[03:48] <misterswag> yes i did
[03:48] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, then sudo mv /var/lib/mysql /srv/mysql
[03:48] <TheLordOfTime> then sudo ln -s /srv/mysql /var/lib/mysql
[03:48] <TheLordOfTime> but I HIGHLY recommend you don't do that
[03:48] <misterswag> will it get messy?
[03:48] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, just because mysql is weirdly tempermental
[03:49] <misterswag> i see
[03:49] <craigbass1976> CryptoSec, I can't remember.  We have an MFC at work and I don't remember which one I grabbed -- that was three years ago.  Anyone else?  Is LPR or cupswrapper a better bet to grab from Brother's website?
[03:50] <misterswag> TheLordOfTime, currently i have my ssd to mount as /var
[03:50] <misterswag> i would just like to give all of /var/lib/mysql to that ssd
[03:50] <misterswag> possible?
[03:50] <elb0w> So I just upgraded to 12.10. I am getting this issue when I select my headphones and play music from the shell it is not going to them
[03:50] <misterswag> that would be my other scenario
[03:50] <elb0w> it goes to my speaker instead
[03:50] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, that's going outside my expertise, but i don't think it'd be easy to set up
[03:50] <TheLordOfTime> misterswag, especially since /var/* is already there
[03:50] <misterswag> yah
[03:51] <TheLordOfTime> in fact i think it'd be incredibly hard
[03:51] <misterswag> it sounds iffy too
[03:51] <misterswag> lol
[03:51] <misterswag> all i can do is just use it till it runs out of space
[03:51] <misterswag> mysqldump
[03:51] <misterswag> and make sure /var has enough space
[03:51] <misterswag> lol
[03:52] <misterswag> on next install
[03:52] <elb0w> nvm fixed it
[03:52] <elb0w> good ole pacmd
[03:52] <CryptoSec> craigbass1976: I did some Google search and I found that LPR is more command line and cups has more gui front end to it... so it just matters what the user is comfortable and his preference.
[03:55] <CryptoSec> and with that... I just answered my own question...
[04:03] <wiz007> how to reset fonts to ubuntu defaults
[04:04] <wiz007> is there any command to reset fonts to default in ubuntu
[04:04] <__mikem> oh great I don't remember the password for my nick
[04:05] <__mikem> oh well, I am having trouble getting wireless to work on my laptop. I have a centrino n-1000 wireless chip and no matter what I do, it asks for the wireless password, waits for a bout a minute then asks for it again
[04:06] <Dave77> how do I find the device name of a USB stick/sd card writer?  Is there some way from file explorer? I'm trying to partition an SD card in USB stick.
[04:08] <damselfly9> Dave77; "lsscsi"
[04:09] <Dave77> thanks
[04:10] <Kanoh> Dave123, sudo fdisk -l
[04:10] <Kanoh> Dave77, ^
[04:12] <puff> Can anybody help me with an apt error?  https://gist.github.com/0c44c797e6b034ef01f5
[04:12] <Dave77> Kanoh: found it thanks
[04:13] <__mikem> does anyone know how to get the centrino n-1000 wireless chip to work with ubuntu?
[04:15] <damselfly9> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi
[04:15] <puff> Ah, hm.. okay, adding /sbin to my regular shell PATH before invoking sudo fixes that.
[04:15] <puff> Weird.
[04:15] <damselfly9> that link was for __mikem
[04:16] <__mikem> thank you, looking
[04:16] <jjgalvez__> linux-backports-modules-cw-3.x-precise-generic, there are 3.3,3.4,3.5,and 3.6 which one should I install? I wanted to get the updated backported wireless drivers from my card
[04:18] <tetchey> Can I extend the authentication timeout for GUI apps like the Ubuntu Software Centre? I have made the timestamp_timeout 60 minutes in the sudoers file, but the USC seems to ignore it
[04:18] <__mikem> And this is already starting to look like more trouble than its worth.
[04:20] <damselfly9> http://www.computerandyou.net/2011/05/how-to-solve-no-wireless-network-in-ubuntu-11-04-centrino-wireless-n-1000/
[04:22] <damselfly9> that second link gives really easy instructions, __mikem. they might even work
[04:25] <__mikem> damselfly9, yes. I did the rfkill list thing and nothing is blocked except my blutooth.
[04:25] <__mikem> and I don't think the bluetooth has anything to do with my wireless
[04:26] <__mikem> specifically, hp-wifi is not soft blocked or hard blocked
[04:28] <daniel_mum> hh
[04:29] <__mikem> damselfly9, ^
[04:30] <damselfly9> what? I don't have intel wifi. I tried to find you info. but it appear to not work for you
[04:31] <__mikem> Its like HP goes out of their way to select their hardware based on how much frustration it will cause when trying to get it to work with linux
[04:31] <dell_> anyone know about antix? it wont go into suspend on my del latitude
[04:32] <damselfly9> rfkill probably would have given you an error if it was a hardware problem
[04:32] <__mikem> yeah
[04:32] <__mikem> the hardware works fine because it sees all the available access points
[04:33] <damselfly9> probably just your system networking setup
[04:34] <__mikem> THe system is a bran new system other than having been dist-upgrade'ed right after finishing the install. After that I installed linux-wlan-ng and linux-wlan-ng-firmware
[04:34] <damselfly9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[04:36] <clean> hi, is it possible to set password for user accounts in persistent live usb ?
[04:36] <damselfly9> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[04:36] <__mikem> I'm about to just go out and buy a usb wireless card.
[04:37] <clean> anybody using LiveUSB ?
[04:38] <damselfly9> __mikem, don't buy a bcm43xx -based one
[04:38] <CLUSTERfoo> Anyone know why it could be that Wake On Lan works perfect within a small window of time, but if I leave the computer sleeping / down for more than about an hour, suddenly it doesn't respond to WOL?
[04:39] <__mikem> damselfly9, yeah I had an adventure with broadcom a few years back, although I atleast got it working with fwcutter
[04:39] <__mikem> it wasn't very reliable though
[04:40] <damselfly9> that link to the ubuntu wifi troubleshooting page might help
[04:41] <__mikem> yeah I am keeping these links for later. I'll try them tomorrow. I was sort of hoping there would be some package I could just install that would make it work.
[04:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is there handwriting recognition software on ubuntu?
[04:43] <__mikem> Akiva-Thinkpad, tegaki-recognize maybe
[04:44] <DWSR> Is there anything similar to GlusterFS?
[04:44] <dell_> anyone know about antix? it wont go into suspend on my del latitude
[04:45] <dell_> or si their an antix channel
[04:45] <dell_> ?
[04:46] <__mikem> damselfly9, anyway thank you. I'll see if I can get it working in the morning.
[04:46] <dell_> :
[04:47] <carrey> -_-
[04:48] <__mikem> dell_, this channel is for ubuntu. Antix is a different distribution
[04:48] <DWSR> Is there anything similar to GlusterFS?
[04:49] <clean> anybody using persistent LiveUSB ?
[04:52] <__mikem> dell_, there doesn't appear to be an antix channel, but there is a generic linux channel called ##linux. Someone in there might know about antix
[04:57] <elvillas> does anyone know how to connect a TV as a screen to my computer through an HDMI cable?
[05:02] <rk0n> What's the app called that regular Ubuntu uses for audio control? I'd like to install it on my xubuntu setup.
[05:02] <cfhowlett> rk0n, pavucontrol should already be present
[05:03] <rk0n> cfhowlett: Thank you very much.
[05:03] <__mikem> insidently, what happened to that restricted driver manager that used to be on Ubuntu?
[05:03] <__mikem> I used to be able to go to this thing that said Aditional DRivers, and it used to autodetect everything and give me the option of enabling things like graphical drivers and stuff
[05:04] <vivid> __mikem: if youre on 12.10+, you can find it in the software sources utility
[05:04] <cfhowlett> __mikem, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:05] <__mikem> oh
[05:05] <__mikem> found it.
[05:06] <__mikem> Says nothing is in use, although there should be atleast the graphics driver installed, although the graphics card on this machine doesn't work on windows either, so maybe its broken.
[05:06] <cfhowlett> __mikem, probably a safe bet
[05:07] <__mikem> I just need to get a new laptop, preferably one that is known to play well with linux. THis thing is absolutely an abortion
[05:07] <__mikem> oh well, have a good night
[05:10] <mikemike> a
[05:10] <a_b0y> is there a ubuntu version for tablets?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !arm|a_b0y, the ubuntu nexus 7 project is underway,  also see ...
[05:11] <crocket> ubuntu tablet is certainly a win.
[05:11] <a_b0y> isn't nexus 7 google?
[05:11] <crocket> I don't want a stripped down version of linux, which is android.
[05:11] <crocket> A full-fledged linux table is desirable.
[05:11] <crocket> table -> tablet
[05:11] <mikemike> can anyone help me on a c++ algorithm ?
[05:11] <dr_willis> good luck finding  a full featured linux tablet at this time.
[05:11] <cfhowlett> a_b0y, yes nexus is google, but it will run ubuntu
[05:12] <crocket> mikemike : That's for C++ or #algorithm.
[05:12] <a_b0y> i don't like google
[05:12] <mikemike> nobody is on #algorithm
[05:12] <dr_willis> they are testing a ubuntu on the nexus 7
[05:12] <crocket> mikemike : You have to be patient.
[05:12] <crocket> Give it hours or half a day.
[05:13] <crocket> mikemike : Or use stackoverflow
[05:13] <crocket> mikemike : You can utilize http://stackexchange.com/
[05:13] <dr_willis> stackoverflow is handy ;)
[05:13] <a_b0y> so will this ubuntu tablet only work on google products?
[05:13] <Noskcaj> dr_willis, it works fine as long as you don't try to dual-boot
[05:13] <mikemike> i know about stackoverflow .. i was looking for a quick answers since I don't have some hard code
[05:13] <crocket> Will the ubuntu tablet contain a full featured ubuntu OS?
[05:13] <mikemike> just a bubble sort
[05:13] <cfhowlett> a_b0y, there IS no ubuntu tablet available
[05:14] <dr_willis> a_b0y:  there is a port of ubuntu to the Nexus7 its the ONLY one i know of at this time
[05:14] <crocket> What a disappointment.
[05:14] <dr_willis> there was mention of a Kubuntu tablet some months back. but not sseen it mentioned anywhere lately
[05:14] <crocket> I'll have to buy a lightweight laptop.
[05:14] <dr_willis> we have NO info on any  ubuntu tablets. :) we dont know what may come out in the next year
[05:15] <Noskcaj> crocket, acer c7 chromebook $200, done
[05:15] <dr_willis> that chromebook i hear works well
[05:15] <a_b0y> so this ubuntu port a fresh install port or will it just piggyback off of android?
[05:15]  * cfhowlett also hear good things about chromebook
[05:15] <kepler> i want an asus zenbook prime, the 11 inch with 1080p screen, but im waiting for them to make the bezel smaller (and hopefully add a gige card)
[05:15] <dr_willis> You can run ubuntu in a VM on most any mondern rooted android devicce.
[05:15] <majnoon> pulseaudio is enabled by default correct ??
[05:15] <crocket> Noskcaj, Isn't it too cheap?
[05:16] <dr_willis> majnoon:  yes
[05:16] <Soelen> hello everyone, my apache webserver is not working anymore, even after a restart, I dont know what is going on
[05:16] <Noskcaj> crocket, it's pretty good actually. check out some reviews
[05:16] <Noskcaj> majnoon, all but lubuntu
[05:16] <seel> I need some help with getting an irssi script saved and loaded
[05:16] <BWMerlin> I keep getting the following error, how can I correct it? "The following packages have unmet dependencies: glx-diversions : PreDepends: nvidia-installer-cleanup but it is not installable  Recommends: glx-alternative-mesa E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[05:17] <crocket> 1.4kg!!!
[05:17] <crocket> It is not light.
[05:17] <crocket> My arms are fragile.
[05:17] <Noskcaj> crocket, then get a light ultrabook
[05:17] <dr_willis> please overreact elsewhere...
[05:17] <savio> Hello Guys
[05:18] <cfhowlett> savio, greetings
[05:18] <savio> cfhowlett, same to u
[05:19] <seel> I know that I need to save the file in ~/.irssi/scripts but it puts it in the home folder and I'm not sure how to save scripts where things are hidden and all
[05:19] <dr_willis> seel:  you just use the full path.
[05:19] <dr_willis> seel:  or use ctrl-h to have the file manager show .whatever files
[05:20] <dr_willis> cp foo  ~/.whatever/whever
[05:20] <majnoon> ok installed pa vol control (not correct name) did EXACTALLY what i wanted :)
[05:20] <dr_willis> or  hit ctrl-l and type in the path in the file manager
[05:21] <Soelen> what is going on with my webserver?
[05:22] <dr_willis> Soelen:  checked your logs yet?
[05:22] <seel> so using nano, how would I do that exactly?
[05:22] <dr_willis> seel:  save it to ~/.irssi/scripts
[05:22] <seel> I have the script in there but to save it in the right place...
[05:22] <Soelen> dr_willis: kinda, I guess those logs on var/www/apache2, but I didnt found any hints there
[05:22] <seel> when I did that it said permission denied
[05:22] <dr_willis> or save it to your home directory then copy it to ~/.irssi/scripts
[05:23] <Soelen> I am not even sure if it's the webserver or something else
[05:23] <dr_willis> seel:  you sure that directory exists?
[05:23] <dr_willis> seel   mkdir ~/.irssi/scripts
[05:23] <seel> yeah, I did that already
[05:23] <kepler> did you do it as root?
[05:24] <dr_willis> save it to your home direcoto . then try to copy it via cp
[05:24] <majnoon> dEfault max volume not worth a darn pavol let me "boost: it \o/
[05:24] <seel> kepler: didn't do it as root, just created the folder
[05:24] <seel> dir, I mean
[05:25] <seel> ok, let me try that
[05:25] <nuxninja> hallo
[05:25] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, greetings
[05:27] <seel> looking it up, it actually shows the file is already there in the right place
[05:27] <seel> ls ~/.irssi/scripts/bitlbee_rename.pl
[05:27] <seel> that's the file, so that's right
[05:28] <dr_willis> use 'cat' instead of ls - to verify the proper stuff is IN the file
[05:28] <dr_willis> and use  'ls -l'   instead of ls to veryify the ownership and permissions  of the file
[05:29] <dn40> alias
[05:30] <seel_> got disconnected for some reason...
[05:30] <seel_> but yeah, when I try to load it I just get a permission denied for some reason
[05:30] <koveras0927> even as root?
[05:31] <seel_> I'm not logged in as root, no
[05:31] <dr_willis> seel_:  may  be time to check the irssi docs and the #irssi channel
[05:31] <dr_willis> and use ls -l to verify the permissions and ownwership of the file   and 'cat' to verify its contents
[05:32] <seel_> ok
[05:32] <koveras0927> so irssi is an irc program and you're having trouble installing it?
[05:32] <dr_willis> hes having trouble getting a script he made to load in it
[05:32] <seel_> well, and each new script I create or download has to be given permission to be executible, right?
[05:32] <koveras0927> oh
[05:33] <koveras0927> ha way above me, I'm not really there yet
[05:33] <dr_willis> seel_:  no idea on that in irssi. i dont see why it would need to be executable..  the #irssi channel woul dbe the place to ask
[05:33] <seel_> someone else's script but yeah, it's for facebook actually
[05:33] <dr_willis> I perfer weechat to irssi
[05:33] <seel_> it's to show the names rather than the numbers for people on facebook
[05:35] <lud> hi ,any program to sync my ipod nano 4th g
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !ipod|;id
[05:36] <seel_> I've tried weechat a few times but the only real difference I liked was the buddy list oub, what really seperates the two for you?
[05:36] <seel_> oob*
[05:36] <dr_willis> buddy list? never notice
[05:37] <dr_willis> it has smart filteering and a  'script' manager system.
[05:37] <crocket> Is ubuntu tablet coming?
[05:37] <Arch4nge1> 1
[05:37] <dr_willis> crocket:  we are not privy to canocals design goals.. or timelines
[05:37] <seel_> ok, so more user-friendly then?
[05:37] <dr_willis> crocket:  i imagine it will be one here .. eventually
[05:37] <cfhowlett> crocket, no set time, no announcements
[05:38] <dr_willis> seel_:  its more powerfull and thought out i find.
[05:38] <dr_willis> 'user friendly' is a meaningless buzzword these days
[05:38] <lud> but ubuntu runs perfect even in ARM
[05:38] <dr_willis> lud:  not perfect on arm.. and its more about the other hardware on a tablet then the cpu
[05:39] <dr_willis> there is #ubuntu-arm
[05:39] <DigitalPhil> anyone able to help with  fancontrol/lm-sensors? I've been messing with this for a while, and it pretty well has gotten on my nerves...
[05:40] <lud> that is something i just don't get why if this distro is debian-based has no ARM version?
[05:40] <seel_> ok
[05:40] <dr_willis> there are arm versions of ubuntu. they are a work in progress...
[05:40] <dr_willis> !arm
[05:41] <lud> yeah but debian does.
[05:41] <dr_willis> does what?  we never said there was no arm ubuntu....
[05:41] <cfhowlett> lud, as always ubuntu ain't debian ...
[05:41] <crocket> ok
[05:42] <dr_willis> thers no ubuntu for my raspberry pi. ;) its arm cpu is too low end
[05:42] <lud> thanks guys, i'm glad there is a version on the way.
[05:42] <jamaican-brotha> hi Shiva
[05:42] <dr_willis> lud:  its allready here.. but as we said.. see #ubuntu-arm as to how well developed it is
[05:42] <cfhowlett> DNS query request: please run a terminal: nslookup www.wordpress.com and paste the output.  I can't get accurate results behind the China firewall
[05:42] <lud> yeah i know i'm using raspbian
[05:42] <dr_willis> theres more to  an os then just supporting a CPU
[05:43] <lud> o really? my bad,
[05:43] <dr_willis> if you are using raspbian then you see all sorts of quirks and issues with it that are still being worked on....
[05:44] <koveras0927>  nslookup www.wordpress.com
[05:44] <koveras0927> Server:		127.0.1.1
[05:44] <koveras0927> Address:	127.0.1.1#53
[05:44] <koveras0927> Non-authoritative answer:
[05:44] <koveras0927> www.wordpress.com	canonical name = lb.wordpress.com.
[05:44] <FloodBot1> koveras0927: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:44] <cfhowlett> Pretty sure the focus is on #phone for the moment.  If that works out, we can hope that a portable port will follow - probably the nexus 7
[05:45] <dr_willis> a portable port? ;)
[05:45] <koveras0927> Any reason you wouldn't be able to run the smartphone version on the nexus 7?
[05:46] <tim_> hello
[05:47] <tim_> i have a question about what type of linux to use on a netbook
[05:47] <penguinman> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1571847/
[05:47] <koveras0927> depends on the netbook
[05:47] <lud> I got a chrome netbook, the 200$ one, any advise on installing ubuntu?
[05:48] <koveras0927> I think that was mentioned earlier, one sec.
[05:48] <cfhowlett> penguinman, thank you.  Will see if I can drill under the firewall ...
[05:48] <penguinman> cfhowlett: ugh, i hear that thing is beastly.
[05:49] <tim_> koveras0927: acer aspier 1 with 1 gig of ram running intel core atom@1.5ghz with a 320 gig HD
[05:50] <cfhowlett> penguinman, it has it's moments.  Interestingly, the easiest exploit to configure was facebook.  twitter and youtube are pretty well locked down.
[05:50] <donnie> True or false. I run Xunbuntu. and I want to remove Thunderbird. Since I'm on Xubuntu. It's safe to "remove xfce desktop' and my xubuntu will be untouched
[05:50] <penguinman> donnie: yeah, it's just a meta package
[05:51] <flashtonic32> i
[05:52] <koveras0927> tim_: I'd say you should stick with xubuntu or lubuntu
[05:53] <donnie> penguinman: So it is completely safe. Cause I'm reading a forum that says let it uninstall the xubuntu-desktop... and really nothing will be lost at all everything will work and functon the same
[05:53] <tim_> koveras0927: ive looked into xbuntu but not lubuntu. whats better in your oppion
[05:55] <koveras0927> I really like xubuntu myself but have only played around with lubuntu a little bit, not enough to form an unbiased opinion, sorry
[05:55] <tim_> easy to install?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> tim_, sudo apt-get install lubuntu
[05:56] <koveras0927> yeah it's easy, about as easy as any regular ubuntu installation
[05:56] <Noskcaj>  cfhowlett, isn't it: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop?
[05:57] <Noskcaj> or lubuntu-core
[05:57] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj, errr ... I think it's desktop.  Thanks.
[05:57] <Noskcaj> cfhowlett, np.
[05:57] <tim_> im still on windows 7
[05:58] <tim_> just plannig what to do a dual boot with
[05:58] <Noskcaj> tim_, both have pro's and con's. but please don't use windows 8
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj, help me out ...
[05:58] <koveras0927> windows 8 makes me sad.
[05:58] <Noskcaj> cfhowlett, yeah, what
[05:58] <cfhowlett> tim_, if you don't have to go windows 9, don't
[05:58] <Noskcaj> koveras0927, let's hope windows blue fixes that
[05:58] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj, please state the correct command for tim_ to get lubuntu DE
[05:59] <tim_> XD i would kill windows on my netbook but i need it for school
[05:59] <koveras0927> from windows i don't think there is one, just download it from the xubuntu website, use unetbootin to install it to a flash drive, and boot off the flash drive
[05:59] <Noskcaj> tim_, install either lubuntu-desktop (all of the stuff from the iso) or lubuntu-core (just the DE (i think))
[06:00] <koveras0927> or lubunu
[06:00] <Noskcaj> koveras0927, Wubi?
[06:00] <Noskcaj> koveras0927, use LiLi instead, it's better
[06:00] <tim_> oh right. for linux you can mix and match
[06:00] <cfhowlett> Noskcaj, there it is.  sudo apt-get install lxde
[06:00] <koveras0927> Noskaj: I've never actually used LiLi, then again I usually go with straight ubuntu
[06:01] <Noskcaj> koveras0927, it's windows only, probably the best usb maker there is
[06:01] <koveras0927> Noskaj Actually I think I've used this before, I only found unetbootin when my cd drive broke back in 08
[06:02] <tim_> noted. ive got to use a usb key to install  what ever i end up using
[06:03] <koveras0927> tim_ try using both, whatever you can get working first, but it's not hard.
[06:03] <koveras0927> tim_ have you ever set up a dual boot before?
[06:03] <tim_> im kind of a noob when it comes to linux install
[06:03] <tim_> and no
[06:04] <jamaican-brotha> unetbootin is a piece of cake...just experiment
[06:04] <koveras0927> so your chromebook is running windows 7 you said?
[06:04] <tim_> netbook* but yes
[06:04] <jamaican-brotha> tim_ nothing to worry just take ur time
[06:05] <koveras0927> do you know how to shrink your windows partition to allow space to install linux?
[06:05] <tim_> no i dont.
[06:05] <tim_> okay i know nothing about linux install
[06:05] <koveras0927> right click computer, click manage, and go to disk management. Right click your main windows partition C: and click shrink
[06:06] <koveras0927> then you just put in the size in MB that you want your linux partition to be, I'd say 40 would be fine for just learning how to use it
[06:06] <koveras0927> 40GB, not MB
[06:07] <tim_> okay
[06:07] <koveras0927> then after you shrink your partition you'll have free space for linux, use unetbootin/LiLi to make a bootable usb drive and boot off of it, then it's pretty self explanatory from there
[06:08] <tim_> okay thanks
[06:08] <tim_> ill make sure i do a full backup first
[06:08] <koveras0927> Good idea :D
[06:09] <koveras0927> when you click install lubuntu or whatever ubuntu distro you're installing, click the option saying install alongside windows, it will keep both windows and linux and let you choose what to boot when you start up next time
[06:09] <tim_> okay thanks for all the help!
[06:11] <lud> when comes out to market the ubuntu phone?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !phone|lud, unknown
[06:12] <koveras0927> lud I've heard rumors that ubuntu will be availble for galaxy nexus in feb, but not sure about other devices
[06:24] <jbud> Hey #ubuntu, I'd like to set a few hotkeys, as well as remove some pre-set hotkeys from here (12.04), but under Settings->Keyboard->Shortcuts I'm unable to remove some hotkeys, and also I cannot use certain keys in the bindings for my own (anything with Alt and PrintScreen). I also tried using gconf-editor but it seemed to bug up when I tried adding my own customs
[06:25] <jbud> TL;DR, how can I access the hotkeys file? Where is that stored? I'd like to add and remove these settings manually
[06:25] <BillyZane> hi everyone
[06:25] <kisho> Hi i am new in ubuntu
[06:25] <kisho> u.u
[06:25] <we6jbo> hi
[06:25] <BillyZane> omg. oooo mmmmm ggggg... i got tightvnc to work on ubuntu finally
[06:25] <kisho> no is easy
[06:25] <kisho> u.u
[06:25] <Ciphoenix> welcome kisho
[06:25] <kisho> thanks
[06:26] <kisho> my english no is very good
[06:26] <kisho> wry u from ?
[06:28] <kisho> ...
[06:29] <Ciphoenix> Nigeria
[06:29] <kisho> woow africa cool
[06:31] <Ciphoenix> you?
[06:31] <kisho> uruguay
[06:31] <yacks> \
[06:31] <yacks> \
[06:31] <yacks> \
[06:31] <yacks> by mistake, typed in
[06:32] <Ciphoenix> yacks trying to post a question?
[06:32] <yacks> nope...
[06:32] <kisho> alguien habla español
[06:32] <kisho> ...
[06:32] <Ciphoenix> kisho: that's great
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !es|kisho,
[06:34] <LiThiuME3> My cached memory is ALWAYS maxed out... Kernel + apps takes 26% of memory Cached 73% :| is that normal?
[06:35] <jbud> LiThiuME3: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[06:35] <LiThiuME3> om nom nom nom nom delicious ram
[06:35] <jbud> Hahah
[06:35] <jbud> Saw this the other day too
[06:36] <LiThiuME3> :P
[06:36] <LiThiuME3> thanks
[06:36] <jbud> np :)
[06:36] <LiThiuME3> Im quite the new indeed at linux
[06:36] <LiThiuME3> its my first VPS
[06:37] <LiThiuME3> started a week ago
[06:37] <jbud> Really/ How are you enjoying things so far?
[06:37] <guideX> there's a weird clicking problem i've noticed in ubuntuy
[06:37] <guideX> ubuntu
[06:37] <LiThiuME3> I like the challange and the head banging part of it :P
[06:37] <guideX> where you must click three times sometimes
[06:37] <guideX> in the folders
[06:37] <jbud> Love Linux :) I'll be trying out Arch when I get my PC fixed up next week
[06:37] <cfhowlett> guideX, on 12.10?
[06:37] <LiThiuME3> jbud no GUI ssh only
[06:38] <guideX> hmm I don't know, i will check
[06:38] <guideX> (sorry lame windows user)
[06:38] <jbud> lol
[06:38] <jbud> Damn you Windows users!
[06:38] <guideX> :/
[06:38] <guideX> yeah (kicks can)
[06:38]  * jbud angrily shakes fists
[06:39] <guideX> ubuntu 11.04
[06:39] <LiThiuME3> jbud reading a lot of tuts online and guides etc...
[06:39] <jbud> guideX: pretty sure I had a similar issue when I started, I went to settings -> mouse/touchpad   and played with the settings
[06:39] <cfhowlett> guideX, system>settings  mousepad is where you should look
[06:39] <jbud> LiThiuME3: Really? Are you into any scripting at all?
[06:39] <guideX> hmm ok
[06:39] <LiThiuME3> Still having problem with my deluge and other stuff I want to figure out if I can setup a dns server on my box also I need to find what runs my ftp server
[06:40] <guideX> I would be happy with just a click, or two clicks.. thanks
[06:40] <LiThiuME3> jbud no not really I need to learn bash
[06:40] <jbud> That's what completely sold it for me. I love being able to build scripts so easily with the huge range of tools
[06:40] <guideX> also..
[06:40] <guideX> is there anything exactly like notepad?
[06:40] <jbud> LiThiuME3: Bash is super easy to pickup :)  tldp
[06:40] <jbud> guideX: gedit
[06:40] <cfhowlett> guideX, exactly like?  no. Similar to?  absolutely
[06:40] <guideX> I'm pretty slow and shakey with it
[06:40] <guideX> I perfer regular old notepad for php stuff..
[06:40] <LiThiuME3> learn a new command that is my fav now lol pgrep
[06:41] <Ciphoenix> better than notepad IMHO
[06:41] <guideX> well i could do vi i guess
[06:41] <jbud> Love vim
[06:41] <guideX> nothing is better than notepad, except visual studio ofc
[06:41] <guideX> well for me..
[06:41] <jbud> guideX: I wrote a wiki on vim if you want for a reference: http://wiki.jbud.me/index.php?title=Vim
[06:41] <LiThiuME3> jbud need to learn vim to I read that Its superior to nano once you konw how to use it :P
[06:42] <jbud> After reading through the documentation
[06:42] <jbud> vim is awesome I love it
[06:42] <guideX> also... if I want to have ubuntu, but without the terrible new interface in 12, is there an option or
[06:42] <guideX> but without "fooling around" with it
[06:42] <Ciphoenix> you mean notepad++?
[06:42] <kepler> guideX, i use kubuntu
[06:43] <guideX> ok
[06:43] <LiThiuME3> jbud do you know why when I creat a new user on my box it only have > when it log in SSH and not username@this:
[06:43] <jbud> LiThiuME3: I'm still trying to get things figured out though. Like matching the intellisense to netbeans for Java or Visual Studio for .NET
[06:43] <jbud> LiThiuME3: You're in something right now
[06:44] <jbud> Like, a program or something
[06:44] <jbud> Basically its waiting for you to type something else
[06:44] <jbud> its like, if you were in bash and you said:   while true; do
[06:44] <jbud> its waiting for you give more
[06:44] <jbud> Try ctrl+d
[06:44] <LiThiuME3> kk 1 min
[06:45] <LiThiuME3> ok
[06:45] <LiThiuME3> nice
[06:45] <jbud> :D
[06:46] <LiThiuME3> now I need to figure out my problem with deluge lol
[06:46] <jbud> Hahah
[06:47] <jbud> I'm giving up local torrenting now
[06:47] <jbud> I grabbed myself a seedbox for $6/mo
[06:47] <LiThiuME3> Well my VPS is a seedbox pretty much
[06:47] <jbud> Such a good deal, plus my ratio has raised through the roof
[06:47] <jbud> Oh yeah
[06:47] <LiThiuME3> 34$ unmetered 1Gbps
[06:48] <jbud> Damnnn
[06:48] <jbud> That's awesome!
[06:48] <LiThiuME3> 400 go hdd
[06:48] <LiThiuME3> yeah
[06:48] <jbud> I wonder, is that part of the new google fiber optic? I hear thats the big thing, 1 gb/s
[06:49] <LiThiuME3> Yeah thats crazy lol
[06:49] <LiThiuME3> 1Gbps to home
[06:49] <LiThiuME3> lol
[06:49] <jbud> Woah!
[06:49] <jbud> LiThiuME3: https://fiber.google.com/about/
[06:49] <jbud> Check it out, they've got a free option
[06:50] <LiThiuME3> A Google Fiber user named Mike Demarais ran a speed test only minutes after his service went live according to ArsTechnica. He achieved 696.38 Mbps download and an impressive 620.49 Mbps upload.
[06:50] <jbud> Free internet, guaranteed for 7 years?
[06:50] <kepler> http://speedtest.net/result/2432981385.png !
[06:51] <LiThiuME3> DAyummm
[06:51] <LiThiuME3> whats that ?
[06:51] <kepler> work machine
[06:51] <LiThiuME3> lol
[06:51] <kepler> :D
[06:51] <LiThiuME3> can you host me a box pl0x ?
[06:51] <kepler> we have a couple of 10 gig links
[06:52] <jbud> Woah!
[06:52] <kepler> unfortunately no
[06:52] <jbud> lol
[06:53] <kepler> still waiting for a chance to speed test on one of the 10 gig links. im on a gig port now
[06:53] <kepler> not sure boss would be happy about running fiber to a workstation...and stealing one of the cards from a server
[06:54] <LiThiuME3> hahaha
[06:55] <jbud> So I wonder if this will be standard speeds soon then
[06:55] <jbud> For everyday residentials
[06:55] <kepler> i hope so.
[06:55] <LiThiuME3> jbud if I am part of a group and I the file I want to cp is owned by a group I am part of and the folder I want to copy it to is a Group that I am part of but it does not want to copy
[06:56] <kepler> i was happy to get 105 down 20 up. if i can get gig/gig, id probably explode
[06:56] <jbud> Lol dl a movie in like 3 seconds
[06:57] <jbud> LiThiuME3: Can you cp it at all? Even in any other folders?
[06:57] <LiThiuME3> cp: cannot create regular file `../reencode_serie.sh': Permission denied
[06:58] <jbud> o interesting, its the folder that's having problems
[06:58] <jbud> Creating files within that folder
[06:59] <guideX> in 11.04 how do you get to the "task manager"
[06:59] <jbud> guideX: ps aux
[07:00] <jbud> guideX: top
[07:00] <jbud> those are the two that I use
[07:00] <LiThiuME3> aaahhh
[07:00] <LiThiuME3> i think I found my prob lol
[07:00] <LiThiuME3> -rw-r--r-- 1 deluge deluge  526 Jan  7 12:03 reencode_serie.sh
[07:00] <guideX> hmm ps aux
[07:00] <jbud> You'll also want to grep for the specific task you're looking for
[07:00] <jbud> Hahah LiThiuME3 that'd be it
[07:00] <jbud> Didn't even consider that
[07:01] <jbud> guideX: ps aux | grep bash    <-- this will show you all the bash scripts currently running
[07:01] <Notimik> hi is se.archive.ubuntu.com down for everyone or is just my isp hosed?
[07:01] <guideX> is that one of those leet bash algorithyms
[07:01] <LiThiuME3> jbud even with chmod 777 I can't move them
[07:01] <LiThiuME3> weird
[07:01] <jbud> Notimik: I can ping it fine?
[07:01] <LiThiuME3> but as root I can...
[07:01] <guideX> you mean they don't have a good list of programs somewhere with a "kill" button
[07:02] <guideX> i'll have to write one :>
[07:02] <Notimik> jbache: mm but i get these when updating from it W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  Unable to connect to se.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: 130.239.18.138 80]
[07:02] <jbud> guideX: kill -9 [process id]
[07:03] <Notimik> jbud: for more or less all of the repos
[07:03] <jbud> Notimik: Yeah I take it back, its not loading for me there either :(
[07:03] <Syria> Anyone could please help to record the play back on computer using audacity or any another application?
[07:04] <guideX> hmm that's not working, is there another way?
[07:04] <guideX> to end a program which is misbehaving
[07:04] <jbud> guideX: It should, unless there's permission issues, then you'd need to sudo
[07:04] <jbud> I mean there may be a gui for it, but I prefer the command line
[07:04] <guideX> yes but.. then I put in the credentials I logged in with, but they're wrong somehow
[07:05] <jbud> hrmm
[07:05] <guideX> plus I can't tell which column is which to the task list
[07:05] <LiThiuME3> jbud my user was part of two groups deluge and lithiume3 (which is the username it self) I chown -R lithiume3:lithiume3 [the dir]     now I can do anything
[07:05] <jbud> guideX: 2nd left is the process id
[07:05] <jbud> if it helps..
[07:05] <LiThiuME3> but if I had it chown -R deluge:deluge [ the dir ] I could not do nothing
[07:05] <LiThiuME3> weird
[07:05] <guideX> ah cool
[07:06] <jbud> guideX: ps aux | grep bash | awk '// {print $2, $NF}'
[07:06] <jbud> just replace bash with what you're actually looking for
[07:06] <Hutu_Ry> 0.0
[07:06] <guideX> hmm ok
[07:07] <guideX> sorry I would google it, but it's chrome which is misbehaving.. has me in an endless loop.. "oh crap, I can't kill the process, I better google it, damn, I can't google it, I better kill the process" etc..
[07:07] <jbud> haha
[07:08] <jbud> guideX: ps aux | grep chrome | awk '// {print $1 }' | xargs | kill -9
[07:08] <jbud> destroys chrome
[07:08] <nearst> hi all
[07:08] <guideX> hmm cool thx
[07:08] <guideX> i'll try it
[07:09] <nearst> try htop
[07:09] <jbud> I wouldn't myself :P Its just a little dangerous is all. I'd personally just `ps aux | grep chrome` and then manually pick and kill each one
[07:09] <Notimik> is there a devops team for the repo servers?
[07:09] <LeMike> Hello. I have a script that always downloads a file. But this can be local cached for one week. How would the condition in sh script look like?
[07:09] <folorn> could anyone help me with a quick problem .."how do i change the file permissions on a certain user again?"
[07:09] <folorn> if anyone could help..
[07:10] <folorn> need a password changed for a certain user and im on gnome 3 i think.
[07:11] <m3pow> Hello !
[07:11] <m3pow> it seems there is something wrong with my LAN adapter
[07:12] <m3pow> as i browse along everything disconnects and i have to restart the laptop in order to be able to reconnect again
[07:12] <jbud> folorn: is the file group the same group assigned to the user you want to give the permissions to?
[07:12] <nearst> folorn, try read man regarding chmod, chown and chcon
[07:12] <m3pow> is it a software or hardware issue ?
[07:13] <jbud> folorn: If so, just chmod g+7 [file]     7 for read write execute
[07:13] <folorn> thanks guys
[07:13] <jbud> oops uh, g+rwx  I think is what I meant to say
[07:14] <folorn> ya was hopeing for it to be terminal so im trying to learn my way around still forgot maybe chown would work if i found the correct file path.. which is a mircle at this point lol :)
[07:14] <jbud> folorn: lol yeah its a bit crazy at first. I wrote everything I could on a cue card, and referred to that thing religiously for the first few months
[07:15] <nearst> m3pow, try look into /var/log/syslog regarding the failure of your LAN adapter. try lsmod to look into your network adapter module
[07:15] <fego> hi, /6
[07:16] <diverdude> Did anybody in here ever interface with basler cameras from ubuntu?
[07:16] <fego> hi, can anyone suggest me a mid range hp laptop with nvidia graphics please? that has good Ubuntu compatibility
[07:16] <m3pow> thanks fego
[07:16] <m3pow> fego i have HDX18 atm
[07:16] <ranjan> fego: never go with nvidia cards, its always a pain with ubuntu
[07:17] <ranjan> fego: why cant you go for an ultrabook with Intel HD Graphics.
[07:17] <ranjan> fego: also hp is the most troublemaker for me in case of ubuntu compatibility.
[07:18] <ranjan> fego: i have HP DV4, with dual graphics.
[07:18] <nearst> wow, new ubuntu unity update is scary
[07:18] <jbud> really?
[07:18] <ranjan> fego: even with the latest ubuntu the battery drains out within 1 to 1 and a half hours
[07:18] <jbud> nearst: Should I beware?
[07:19] <nearst> jbud, nope. i know ure good
[07:19] <fego> ranjan: mind a pm?
[07:19] <guideX> hmm nothings working.. maybe I should reboot
[07:19] <_raven> how is the chance to get v ubuntu phne for asus padphone2?
[07:19] <ranjan> fego: sure
[07:20] <tony_> test
[07:20] <guideX> heh reboot is so fast
[07:21] <jbud> Yes :)
[07:21] <nearst> guideX, lucky!
[07:24] <guideX> hmm it keeps saying no such process
[07:24] <guideX> weird
[07:24] <guideX> when I do the kill
[07:24] <jbud> guideX: Cause its already killed, try ps aux again
[07:24] <jbud> Also try doing it manually, don't do that other way I showed you
[07:24] <guideX> it changed
[07:24] <guideX> ok
[07:25] <Aziroshin> Hello.
[07:25] <antonio_> anyone have experience getting a broadcom wireless driver to work?
[07:25] <guideX> it keeps changing
[07:25] <antonio_> in 12.10
[07:25] <guideX> I can't do it fast enough
[07:25] <BlackWeb> I'm trying to Partition a 3TB HardDrive on my system which I've done on a Ubuntu_Server_12.04 Install & had it work with no problems, but when i try it in 12.04 Then I'm running into a problem it keeps erroring out then when i do a fdisk -l Then its showing the Hard Drive twice one as /dev/sda & /dev/sde; Has anyone ever ran into this problem, I know theres only 1 3tb Hard_Drive
[07:25] <nearst> guideX, try install htop
[07:25] <guideX> ok
[07:26] <folorn> j #kubuntu
[07:28] <folorn> hrm back
[07:29] <BlackWeb> Wheres Dr_Willis when you need him LOl
[07:29] <kyo> I FUCKU
[07:29] <kyo> sorry send error
[07:29] <LiThiuME3> no you dont
[07:30] <nearst> !language | kyo
[07:30] <kyo> emacs is too hard to study QAQ
[07:30] <jbud> lol send error?
[07:30] <kyo> OK i know
[07:30] <kyo> lol poor english
[07:30] <theadmin> kyo: Don't use emacs then, use gedit or geany or whatever
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> use vim... :)
[07:30] <kyo> Gedit 0 0 u r kidding?
[07:31] <jbud> vim is awesome
[07:31] <Aziroshin> scite is also a good option.
[07:31] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: If anything, Emacs is a lot easier to understand than Vim.
[07:31] <kyo> EMACS can make coffee
[07:31] <kyo> lol
[07:31] <jbud> Yeah but vim has a game: http://vim-adventures.com/
[07:31] <kyo> VIM can't
[07:31] <theadmin> jbud: oh please, M-x tetris
[07:31] <nearst> kyo, nano work fine im guess
[07:31] <theadmin> kyo: Yes, but you're complaining emacs is hard, so use something else.
[07:31] <Aziroshin> No one asked yet whether either of these will blend. Amazing.
[07:32] <aeon-ltd> theadmin: i was starting the wars again :)
[07:32] <kyo> 0 0
[07:32] <jbud> lol
[07:32] <nearst> emacs is epics
[07:32] <Tm_T> !ot | kyo and others
[07:32] <aeon-ltd> sorry for derailing.
[07:33] <theadmin> aeon-ltd: Oh, heh.
[07:34] <guideX> hmm, is there another way to install htop, i get an error
[07:34] <guideX> i'm missing an operand
[07:34] <nearst> sudo apt-get install htop
[07:35] <guideX> ah ok
[07:35] <BlackWeb> Has anyone ever ran into the problem of it showing a HardDrive as 2 Seperate Devices?
[07:35] <kyo> what is seperate
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> BlackWeb: 2 partitions? or are they assigned different /dev/sdx?
[07:36] <arshavin> BlackWeb: you mean like /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[07:36] <guideX> omg there's like bazillions of them
[07:36] <guideX> chromiums
[07:36] <BlackWeb> Have a 3tb Hard Drive been trying to format Fdisk -l  Shows the same hard Drive as /dev/sde & /dev/sda
[07:36] <jbud> lol yes Chrome does that
[07:36] <guideX> oh ok
[07:37] <guideX> it does it on windows too but more like 4-5
[07:37] <guideX> which is a lot for windows :P
[07:37] <_raven> how is the chance to get ubuntu phone for asus padphone2?
[07:37] <jbud> guideX: o actually I'm speaking from past experience on Windows. Haven't checked it out for Linux actually
[07:37] <arshavin> BlackWeb: that's really strange have you tried gparted?
[07:37] <theadmin> _raven: Is it a multli-core phone?
[07:38] <afotek> Hello. I want to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu. How do I prepare a partition for Ubuntu before installing Windows? As I understand, it's better to install Windows first. Do I make an extended partition or plain ext3 partition?
[07:38] <theadmin> _raven: If so, likely.
[07:38] <jbud> I found Chrome to be really awkward and buggy on linux, so I swapped to Firefox
[07:38] <arshavin> BlackWeb: that's really strange have you tried gparted or cfdisk?
[07:38] <guideX> jbud there was like two whole pages
[07:38] <kyo> ext3 allowed
[07:38] <BlackWeb> First it only showed it as /dev/sda,  Went ahead `parted -a optimal /dev/sda` Table: gpt and then while it was making partition errored out so exited and now its showing it as 2 devices so now trying to mkfs.ext3 -v -l "" /dev/sde1 and it looks like it just worked, but how am I suppose to tell it to mount
[07:38] <theadmin> afotek: Eh. Just install Windows to an empty hard drive, but leave some unpartitioned space for Ubuntu to use later
[07:38] <guideX> ah cool that worked :>
[07:38] <guideX> now it opens again :)
[07:39] <BlackWeb> when I tried gparted then it errored out while it was making the partition also
[07:39] <afotek> theadmin: Is it possible to leave 50 Gb of unpartitioned space before Windows partition?
[07:39] <arshavin> BlackWeb: it may be because of that gpt thing which is different fro normal mbr
[07:39] <_raven> theadmin quadcore. i havevto decide to send it back soon if here wont be a free os on it
[07:39] <Guest60313> hey i am trying to make a bootlable usb for arch linux and i am using ubuntu but in start up disk creator it doesnt show the duel iso can anyone show me what command i should use its in my downloads folder and my usdb is sdb1
[07:39] <guideX> htop is a nice prog
[07:40] <justmeh> hey Guest60313
[07:40] <BlackWeb> I tried using msdos instead of gpt & it said that it doesnt support over 2TB
[07:40] <theadmin> Guest60313: If you can't read the ArchWiki, don't use Arch. But, sudo dd if=something.iso of=/dev/sdb
[07:40] <justmeh> link me to the page your following
[07:40] <justmeh> nvm
[07:40] <arshavin> Guest60313: what do you mean by does not show
[07:40] <BlackWeb> On my Ubuntu_Server_12.04 it worked fine, Same type of hard Drive & Motherboard
[07:41] <saju_m> how check squid user auth via terminal?
[07:41] <justmeh> why don't you type that into google saju_m lol
[07:41] <theadmin> afotek: From what I've experienced the partitioning in the Windows installer makes that kind of hard. It's easy to leave space after it, though, but are you sure 50GB is enough? Doesn't sound like a lot
[07:41] <arshavin> BlackWeb: is it internal or external
[07:41] <justmeh> http://goo.gl/W300D
[07:41] <Guest60313> arshavin: like i search for the iso and select it and it doesnt show up after i click open
[07:41] <justmeh> its an excellent search
[07:41] <BlackWeb> Internal
[07:41] <saju_m> i googled ando tried lot of things
[07:42] <justmeh> btw not that anyone cares, but i just masterd basic drbd :D
[07:42] <saju_m> but i could not get it
[07:42] <Guest60313> theadmin: ok i didnt use sudo man i feel dumb
[07:42] <arshavin> Guest60313: ou mean when you tab to complete the command
[07:42] <theadmin> Guest60313: Oh, lol
[07:43] <Guest60313> theadmin: ha maybe im not ready to try arch yet if i cant remeber to put sudo lol
[07:43] <nearst> !iso | Guest60313
[07:43] <BlackWeb> I can try switching the SATA Port on the Motherboard, I know I have it plugged into a 6Gbs Ports While on my other system its plugged into Standard SATA Port
[07:43] <saju_m> my squid setup working and asking for password, if i cofigure it in firefox.
[07:43] <afotek> theadmin: I'm using GParted for partitioning. I have a 1 Tb drive and I'm going to make partition for Ubuntu (50 Gb), partition for Windows (50 Gb) and NTFS partition for the rest for all the data.
[07:43] <saju_m> but i want to test it via termial or another tool?
[07:43] <theadmin> afotek: Woah. You can't store ALL the data on NTFS, especially various user configurations.
[07:43] <keshav> Hey guys !!
[07:43] <arshavin> Guest60313: why do you want to mount arch iso?
[07:44] <keshav> I had a question regarding cloud computing
[07:44] <keshav> ??
[07:44] <keshav> can anyone help me out >>
[07:44] <keshav> ??
[07:44] <theadmin> keshav: Ask the question...
[07:44] <lud> ask buddy
[07:44] <Guest60313> arshavin: i would like to make a bootlable usb so i can try it out never used anything beside ubuntu kubuntu or xubuntu thought i would open my horizons a bit
[07:45] <theadmin> Guest60313: Yeah if you never used anything but Ubuntu Arch is gonna be very hard for you
[07:45] <nearst> try remastersys
[07:45] <keshav> I am quite new to cloud computing and I wanted to make a private cloud just for getting a hang of it. so which platform should i use for it ?
[07:45] <afotek> theadmin: I thought it'll be fine: configs are stored on system partitions and user data is stored on NTFS partition.
[07:45] <arshavin> Guest60313: you just do dd if=x.iso of=/dev/sdx bs=4M
[07:45] <Guest60313> theadmin: well looking for way to force me to increase my knowlege on linux and this looks like what i think im looking for
[07:45] <keshav> openstack opennebula cloudstack ??
[07:45] <theadmin> afotek: Well, depends on what you mean as "user data"
[07:46] <theadmin> Guest60313: Heh, might be better to go with Gentoo then :P
[07:46] <Dave77> what is the equivilant of directX on ubuntu?
[07:46] <afotek> theadmin: music, documents etc.
[07:46] <theadmin> afotek: Oh, that'd be fine
[07:46] <theadmin> Dave77: OpenGL
[07:46] <nearst> Dave77, xorg :P
[07:46] <Guest60313> theadmin: i was looking into that but from most of the reviews sites say arch is easier
[07:47] <saju_m> keshav: try this http://fosshelp.blogspot.in/2013/01/howto-install-openstack-using-devstack.html
[07:47] <kostkon_> neither
[07:47] <Dave77> I mean how difficult can it be for large games company to include linux binary/setup on the DVD?
[07:47] <theadmin> Guest60313: Easier to install? Not really, just faster (less compiling). Easier to use? Heck no, it breaks with almost every update.
[07:47] <kostkon_> the dirextx equivalent is SDL
[07:47] <arshavin> Guest60313: what crap arch is easy only after you have high speed internet a few tutorials and lots of stet
[07:47] <Aziroshin> Are there CDs that won't be able to contain the ubuntu image?
[07:48] <Aziroshin> These CD RWs say they are 700 MB. I suppose they are too small. Why the hell do I even have crap CDs like these? I don't get it. Sigh..
[07:48] <arshavin> Guest60313: this whole arch hype is crap
[07:48] <theadmin> Aziroshin: Uh, all CDs are 700MB...
[07:48] <arshavin> Guest60313: now they don't even allow an offline installation media
[07:48] <Aziroshin> The Ubuntu image is 763, and wodim complains. -overburn doesn't help
[07:48] <theadmin> Aziroshin: You need a DVD to install Ubuntu if you're using a version later than 12.04
[07:48] <keshav> is there another group for cloudcomputing ?
[07:48] <afotek> theadmin: So I can leave 50 Gb for Ubuntu in "unformatted" and it'll be OK?
[07:49] <theadmin> afotek: yep
[07:49] <afotek> theadmin: Great, thanks!
[07:49] <Guest60313> arshavin: ha so u say gentoo also ? ha guys i just wanna try using something a lil more different ubuntu ive been using for 6 years and i kinda wanna just try something else lol
[07:49] <Aziroshin> I don't have dvds available. I guess I will have to look into that "iso to usb" software I've forgotten the name from.
[07:49] <afotek> theadmin: And can I change hard drive and volume attributes under Ubuntu?
[07:49] <kyo> yes u can
[07:49] <theadmin> afotek: attributes as in...?
[07:49] <Alocer> Aziroshin: unetbootin ? ? ?
[07:50] <antonio_> does anyone have experience getting a broadcom wireless adapter working in 12.10
[07:50] <theadmin> Alocer: No, that never works
[07:50] <antonio_> its such a pain in the @#$#
[07:50] <afotek> Like read-only
[07:50] <Aziroshin> Alocer: I think that might have been it, thanks.
[07:50] <theadmin> Aziroshin: You can just use dd
[07:50] <Guest60313> still and will allways be diehard ubuntu fan i got a galaxy nexus just to be the first to try out ubuntu mobile and have a nexus 7 with ubuntu 13.04
[07:50] <arshavin> Guest60313: if you want try something different then arch is ok
[07:50] <Alocer> :P
[07:50] <Aziroshin> theadmin: I dd the iso onto the raw usb stick and it will work, yes?
[07:51] <arshavin> Guest60313: but they need to provide offline installation media for it to be accepted by everyone
[07:51] <Alocer> Aziroshin: theadmin: i think u should make the usb bootable
[07:51] <lud> @antonio_ ubuntu should install the drivers right away.
[07:51] <theadmin> Aziroshin: Yeah, something along the lines of: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb
[07:51] <afotek> kyo: and what software can I use for that?
[07:51] <antonio_> lud: it didn't
[07:51] <theadmin> Alocer: Nah, just dd'ing it works, Ubuntu images are hybrid
[07:51] <Aziroshin> theadmin: I will just do that, thanks.
[07:51] <Aziroshin> Awesome@hybrid
[07:51] <Alocer> theadmin: Aziroshin: dd is much simpler
[07:52] <Aziroshin> Yeah, I love that dding it over works out of the box, I didn't know that.
[07:52] <nearst> dd is fun im guess
[07:52] <arshavin> Guest60313: check your usb drive device name by typing "sudo fdisk -l" and replace of=/dev/sdx
[07:52] <afotek> theadmin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS "Attributes: Read-only, hidden, system, archive, not content indexed, off-line, temporary, compressed"
[07:53] <theadmin> afotek: I don't think the Linux NTFS implementation cares for any of those. After all, hidden files in Linux must have names starting with a ".", "system" is a purely Windows thing, and there's no permission implementation for NTFS that's POSIX-compatible so no "read-only" either.
[07:53] <arshavin> nearst: amazing utility if you know how to use it,but terrible if you don't
[07:54] <antonio_> this is so damn annoying..
[07:54] <antonio_> I cannot get my wireless broadcom device to work
[07:54] <theadmin> antonio_: Do you have a wired connection?
[07:54] <nearst> which broadcom
[07:54] <djQuery> just ran var$ chown -R me www  but it fails on 1 directory in there that is currently marked as read only
[07:55] <helmut_> hi
[07:55] <antonio_> theadmin: yes
[07:55] <djQuery> how do I remove the readonly from the directory
[07:55] <theadmin> antonio_: Okay, open the "additional drivers" tool and see if there's a Broadcom driver around.
[07:55] <theadmin> djQuery: sudo chmod a+r www
[07:57] <afotek> theadmin: that's quite bad, because I thought it's possible to create external read-only backup
[07:57] <arshavin> djQuery: run chmod on that directory
[07:57] <djQuery> nopers still happening
[07:57] <djQuery> arshavin, ^^
[07:57] <antonio_> theadmin: its a well known problem with ubuntu and broadcom drivers
[07:57] <theadmin> djQuery: Can you paste the exact error?
[07:57] <djQuery> chown: changing ownership of `www/jquery-ui': Operation not permitted
[07:58] <theadmin> djQuery: Uh, are you using sudo?
[07:58] <djQuery> yes
[07:58] <theadmin> djQuery: If not it likely won't just work
[07:58] <arshavin> djQuery: tru sudo su
[07:58] <theadmin> !danger
[07:58] <theadmin> arshavin: That's not the way to do it.
[07:59] <theadmin> djQuery: Use "sudo -i" to get a root shell and work from there.
[07:59] <djQuery> sudo chmod a+r jquery-ui
[08:00] <djQuery> while in the www directory as well
[08:00] <Guest60313> arshavin: i got it working thank you
[08:00] <Guest60313> theadmin: i got it working thank you also
[08:00] <antonio_> this is starting to really piss me off...why can't my damn wireless work!
[08:00] <djQuery> theadmin, is that like sudo root
[08:01] <kostkon_> antonio_, did you open the drivers tool and what happened
[08:01] <theadmin> djQuery: "root" is not a command so that doesn't do anything :P
[08:02] <theadmin> djQuery: But it gives you a root shell, similarily to "su -"
[08:02] <antonio_> argh
[08:03] <djQuery> chown -R david www   no errors this time
[08:03] <antonio_> I can't open additional drivers..but its installed
[08:03] <alocer> !mint | alocer
[08:03] <kostkon_> antonio_, are you getting an error?
[08:04] <djQuery> theadmin, arshavin, thanks for the help guys
[08:04] <antonio_> koston: if I try finding it under dash board it doesn't even show up
[08:06] <theadmin> antonio_: Pastebin the output of "sudo jockey-text -l"
[08:06] <pr0x1mity> what is long black and smells like shit?
[08:06] <pr0x1mity> the niggers in the welfare line! =D
[08:07] <kostkon_> antonio_, right. open the sodtware centre, select edir -> software sources, i believe, and then click on the last tab
[08:07] <theadmin> bazhang: Thank you >.<
[08:07] <antonio_> kmod:wl - Broadcom STA wireless driver (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use) [auto-install]
[08:07] <theadmin> antonio_: Tada.
[08:07] <theadmin> antonio_: sudo jockey-text -e kmod:wl
[08:08] <antonio_> Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[08:08] <theadmin> antonio_: ...Okaysies, pastebin that
[08:08] <antonio_> how do I open that?
[08:08] <antonio_> gedit?
[08:09] <theadmin> antonio_: You could use that, yes
[08:09] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/hzegwY5z
[08:09] <kyo> http://shafou.com
[08:10] <theadmin> antonio_:  bcm43xx: blacklisted, b43: blacklisted, b43legacy: blacklisted # <- why are those blacklisted?
[08:10] <antonio_> I have no idea
[08:11] <antonio_> can I just edit that file and "un" blacklist them?
[08:11] <theadmin> antonio_: grep -HP 'b(cm)?43' /etc/modprobe.d/*
[08:12] <theadmin> antonio_: Gotta figure out where they are blacklisted first
[08:13] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/VUKxsfZP
[08:13] <antonio_> there
[08:14] <theadmin> antonio_: Okay, sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.ignore # and reboot after that
[08:15] <antonio_> so this ?
[08:15] <antonio_> sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.conf /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-bcm43.ignore #
[08:15] <theadmin> antonio_: yeah
[08:15] <antonio_> back in a few..thansk
[08:15] <antonio_> thanks
[08:15] <Em_> I am unable to install Gparted via "sudo apt-get install gparted". Help
[08:16] <theadmin> Em_: What is the error?
[08:17] <Em_> theadmin: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package gparted is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'gparted' has no installation candidate
[08:17] <theadmin> !info gparted
[08:17] <theadmin> Em_: Er. Run "sudo apt-get update".
[08:17] <Em_> theadmin: what was wrong?
[08:18] <theadmin> Em_: Likely you're missing the package index. Happens if it's a new install.
[08:18] <antonio_> didn't work :(
[08:18] <theadmin> Em_: Or if it's a LiveCD or such
[08:18] <theadmin> antonio_: Damn. Well I'm out of ideas
[08:18] <Em_> theadmin: what is the package index for?
[08:18] <antonio_> this is so goddamn annoying
[08:18] <theadmin> Em_: Basically it's a list of packages and where to get them from, it's created by "sudo apt-get update"
[08:19] <antonio_> I have so much work to do...and I don't need to be dealing with such minor b.s.
[08:19] <Em_> so the command "sudo apt-get update" updates my kernel and gives it the information or the list of packages wher eto get softwares from, right?
[08:20] <spikeb> it gives updated packages, yes
[08:20] <spikeb> info, that is.
[08:20] <theadmin> Em_: ...apart from the kernel part, that sounds right
[08:20] <antonio_> what can I do?
[08:20] <kostkon> antonio_, try using the additional drivers ui
[08:20] <Em_> theadmin: the update is done but I still get the same error message
[08:21] <antonio_> koston: I can't open additional drivers..even though its installed
[08:21] <antonio_> how can I open additional drivers from term?
[08:21] <kostkon> antonio_, open the software centre, select edit -> software sources, then select the last tab. i think
[08:22] <warl0k> hello everyone
[08:22] <warl0k> anyone here good with 10.04LTS ?
[08:22] <fego> the update is needed to update the adress book used to locate packages
[08:22] <theadmin> Em_: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:22] <antonio_> koston: the only one available is the driver thats not working
[08:22] <Em_> theadmin: 12.10, do I need to reboot my compuiter?
[08:22] <theadmin> Em_: no.. this is weird
[08:23] <warl0k> I've got a linux box running as a VM that *briefly* is responsive to ping while booting, but as services start it stops responding to pings.
[08:23] <kostkon> antonio_, try to activate it again
[08:23] <antonio_> it is activated
[08:23] <warl0k> can't quite figure out what the hell is going wrong with it.
[08:23] <kostkon> antonio_, then try rebooting and see what happens
[08:24] <Em_> @theadmin: I'm quite new to this distro, the whole Linux thing actually.
[08:24] <antonio_> koston: I've already done that..nothing
[08:24] <warl0k> normally I'd just FFR the stupid thing, but it's got half a terabyte of needed websites on it..
[08:24] <theadmin> Em_: I understand, but that should've been enough. Seriously strange.
[08:24] <kostkon> antonio_, does it say that is activated and working?
[08:25] <antonio_> just says its using an alt driver
[08:25] <kostkon> antonio_, ?
[08:26] <antonio_> this is b.s.
[08:26] <antonio_> rb
[08:26] <antonio_> brb
[08:27] <antonio_> argh
[08:28] <antonio_> is there anyway to take my ubuntu installation back to default? any term commands?
[08:28] <kostkon> antonio_, don't think so. you can always reinstall
[08:28] <antonio_> well..guess I'm doing thta
[08:28] <antonio_> that
[08:28] <antonio_> back in a few...
[08:29] <kostkon> :/
[08:29] <dr_willis> purge and reinstall every pacakge.. ;)
[08:30] <warl0k> thanks
[08:30] <theadmin> dr_willis: You can't expect that to work
[08:30] <Em_> theadmin: tried rebooting my computer, didn't work.
[08:30] <dr_willis> nope - i wouldent exxpect it to work
[08:32] <warl0k> anyone know of something other than iptables that could cut off a network connection post-boot?
[08:32] <warl0k> because I have thoroughly flushed iptables, I think.
[08:32] <nomoney4u> hello there ubuntu community :)
[08:32] <dr_willis> stopping the network service.  ifdown eth0,
[08:32] <dr_willis> driver crashing... (that would be odd)
[08:33] <warl0k> yeah, network connections are up, but all the packets are dropped.
[08:33] <warl0k> no panics
[08:33] <dr_willis> wireless or wired?
[08:33] <warl0k> wired.
[08:33] <dr_willis> err.. you flushed the rules then rebooted? that wouldent survvicce a reboot.
[08:33] <dr_willis> survive
[08:34] <warl0k> why would I reboot?
[08:34] <warl0k> it's Linux.
[08:34] <zenu> @war10k Have you tested the ethernet cable with a loop test/ another computer?
[08:34] <dr_willis> you said post-boot...
[08:34] <warl0k> short of changing a core portion of the kernel, there's never a need to reboot.
[08:34] <dr_willis> so it does it on ever bootup?
[08:34] <warl0k> on bootup there is a window of maybe 5 seconds where it will respond to ping.
[08:35] <warl0k> then as services start up, bye-bye goes the network connection.
[08:35] <dr_willis> wonder if theres a conflicting ip on the  network
[08:35] <warl0k> nope.
[08:35] <Devaki> is there a way to enter a command as soosn as i login to freenode on xchat ?
[08:35] <Devaki> im sick of messaging nickserv :/
[08:36] <dr_willis> Devaki:  xchat has on connect and on join options. check the server settings and docs.
[08:36] <kepler> Devaki, menu, network list, edit
[08:36] <dr_willis> xchat used to have some very good guides/links in its help menu
[08:36] <kepler> xchat menu, that is
[08:36] <dr_willis> it would be in the 'server' settings for the freenode server. i belive
[08:36] <kepler> yeah. there is a box for nickserv password
[08:37] <dr_willis> or just make a simple alias you can type to do whatever it is you want.
[08:37] <Devaki> but that doesnt work.
[08:37] <kepler> what doesnt work?
[08:37] <Em_> I can't install gparted. Error: "Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package emacs-snapshot-gtk is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'emacs-snapshot-gtk' has no installation candidate"
[08:38] <Guest71093> nickserv password dosent work
[08:38] <warl0k> ohhhhhh.
[08:38] <Guest71093> as you can see , i am guest now
[08:38] <kepler> works for me
[08:38] <warl0k> apparently irqbalance doesn't like me.
[08:38] <Guest71093> stupid xchat.
[08:38] <dr_willis> there is the xchat irc channel.
[08:38] <kepler> you went to freenode, hit edit, and added your password to the nickserv box?
[08:39] <Guest71093> yep
[08:39] <kepler> close and open? it only does it on connect, not after hitting apply or something
[08:39] <Guest71093> I know
[08:40] <Guest71093> i did
[08:40] <kepler>  /shrug. works for me
[08:40] <warl0k> dr_willis: apparently on hyper-v VMs running Linux, irqbalance service causes this issue.
[08:41] <dr_willis> warl0k:  never done any of that stuff. ;)
[08:41] <alocer> anyone knows how can i find what program uses internet with tcpdump ? ? 	
[08:41]  * kepler plugs esx 
[08:42] <hay> hi, on one of mine kvm guests (I have 8 running without any problems) I get occasional: lost page write due to I/O error messages and can't even umount partitions... the issue still remains with only one guest after changing all the hard drives in the RAID array (we changed drives although nothing strange was in the logs of the host machine)... I am pretty lost why it happens, any ideas are
[08:42] <hay> very appreciated...
[08:43] <kepler> nas, san, or local?
[08:43] <hay> there is a local raid on the host machine
[08:44] <koegs> alocer: you could try to use nethogs
[08:44] <warl0k> kepler: different strokes for different folks. I wanted a cluster sans SAN requirement, so I went with Server 2012 and Hyper-V and SCVMM.
[08:45] <bekks> warl0k: Whats SCVMM?
[08:45] <bekks> warl0k: And "sans" means "without", correct?
[08:45] <kepler> warl0k, that was for hay. :P but boooo ms
[08:47] <Em_> I am unable to install anything via the CLI
[08:47] <Em_> gparted
[08:47] <Em_> emacs
[08:47] <Em_> nothing
[08:47] <FloodBot1> Em_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <hay> kepler, I am lost as just what to do next.. I could create a new guest and transfer all the data and services, but I just want to understand why it happened... and after googling for quite a lot I found out that I am not the only one with this issue :S
[08:47] <bekks> Em_: Why? Whats happening when doing what exactly?
[08:48] <dr_willis> Em_:  sone a sudo apt-get update   recently?
[08:48] <dr_willis> done a. ...
[08:48] <kepler> hay, not sure. :/ ive only encountered those types of problems with my nas
[08:48] <Osakasa^> hello, how do i check which driver version Additional Drivers installed? (amd card)
[08:49] <punch_line> i have also had the same problem... have you checked your processes?
[08:49] <Em_> dr_willis: Yeah, I've done that.
[08:49] <Em_> bekks: Here's the error, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572119/
[08:49] <auronandace> Em_: what version of ubuntu?
[08:50] <kepler> Em_, sounds like you don't have the correct repos
[08:50] <Em_> auronandace: 12.10
[08:50] <Em_> kepler: How can I check that?
[08:50] <punch_line> what error do you get doing a .......apt-get update?
[08:50] <Em_> I'm running Ubuntu right now
[08:50] <antonio_> hey folks...
[08:50] <antonio_> So I just reinstalled 12.10
[08:51] <kepler> cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <antonio_> Now I want to try to diagnose my wireless problems
[08:51] <bekks> Em_: lsb_release -sc will tell you the ubuntu version.
[08:52] <auronandace> antonio_: lspci will tell you what wireless you have (among other hardware)
[08:52] <Em_> bekks: It says quantal
[08:52] <Em_> uname -a == "3.5.0-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 11 18:52:46 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux"
[08:52] <bekks> Em_: Thats good then. Could you please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list too?
[08:53] <antonio_> audrondance: this is the output
[08:53] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/ME4203GF
[08:54] <auronandace> !b43 | antonio_
[08:54] <Em_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572125/
[08:55] <kostkon> antonio_, did you try to activate it again in the additional drivers?
[08:55] <Em_> bekks: It gives me the same error message when I try to install emac
[08:56] <bekks> Em_: Then pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade please
[08:56] <antonio_> koston: installing additional drivers
[08:57] <kostkon> antonio_, nice
[08:58] <coz_> hey guys, 12.04..nvidia cirrent..screen flashes..black and back when opening anything including applications,, any ideas?
[08:59] <Em_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572129/ ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572130/
[09:00] <antonio_> what term command do I use to find out what chipset my wireless card is?>
[09:00] <bekks> antonio_: lsusb
[09:00] <kostkon> antonio_, you already did. <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/ME4203GF
[09:01] <bekks> Em_: And whats the output of apt-cache policy gparted ?
[09:04] <warl0k> bekks: yes, without a SAN.
[09:05] <bekks> warl0k: And whats SCVMM?
[09:05] <Em_> bekks: gparted:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: (none)   Version table:
[09:07] <Knight2000> Hello
[09:09] <antonio_> koston: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[09:09] <kostkon> antonio_, :/
[09:09] <Knight2000> I have a little problem while installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my windows 7 Computer: I cant create new Partitions. Can anyone help me pleas?^^
[09:09] <Em_> bekks: ?
[09:10] <auronandace> Knight2000: you can only have 4 primary partitions
[09:10] <antonio_> this is the result of it
[09:10] <kostkon> antonio_, btw, have you installed all the availables updates? if not, install them all and then try to activate it again
[09:10] <przemek> hello Dears does anyone know what that raid 3ware 9750 log errors output means? http://pastebin.com/Sx0zqi8A
[09:10] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/72GjB4Qt
[09:10] <Knight2000> ok. what can i do to get Ubuntu and Windows running?
[09:11] <auronandace> !dualboot | Knight2000
[09:11] <antonio_> Knight2000: have you tried virtualbox?
[09:11] <Knight2000> if i use virtualbox my sense of Linux is gone^^
[09:11] <bekks> Knight2000: ?
[09:12] <Unknown0BC> Hello, is there a ubuntu program I can use to do a full system diagnostics ? My laptop has been acting very absurd, also in windows ( not surprising - that one though )
[09:12] <bekks> Em_: You could check which repos are enabled in detail.
[09:14] <Knight2000> But for Multiboot, i need a new partition
[09:15] <Unknown0BC> Found System Testing. I hope its any good.
[09:15] <bekks> Unknown0BC: No,, but there are programs to analyze different aspects.
[09:16] <nearst> !qemu | Knight2000
[09:17] <auronandace> !partitioning | Knight2000
[09:18] <kostkon> antonio_, what's the output of:  apt-cache policy bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:18] <Knight2000> can i have more than 4 partitions with these programms?
[09:19] <antonio_> koston: http://pastebin.com/LTAm3mqm
[09:19] <bekks> Knight2000: You can have up to 18 partitions on a default MSDOS disk label.
[09:19] <bekks> Knight2000: It does not depend on which program you are using.
[09:19] <auronandace> Knight2000: not more than 4 primary partitions no, but one of your primary partitions can be an extended partition into which you can put several logical partitions
[09:19] <thoni> pusing....
[09:20] <thoni> ujan gak berenti2,.......
[09:20] <Knight2000> what si the difference between primary and logical?
[09:21] <auronandace> Knight2000: a logical partition is inside an extended one
[09:21] <bekks> Knight2000: Technically, the difference is the place where the information is stored - primary or extended partition tables.
[09:22] <kostkon> antonio_, just to be sure. the output of:  iwconfig
[09:23] <antonio_> eth0      no wireless extensions. lo        no wireless extensions.
[09:24] <kostkon> antonio_, right ok
[09:24] <Knight2000> i see... But can i convert an partition to a extended whithout formating it?
[09:24] <auronandace> Knight2000: no
[09:24] <Knight2000> ok. i have a problam -.-
[09:25] <bekks> auronandace: Which is not true.
[09:25] <BillyZane2> hi
[09:25] <bekks> Knight2000: Using gparted, you can move your partitions without formatting them, but you should create a backup before.
[09:26] <auronandace> Knight2000: then you need to get rid of one of your primary partitions to put an extended partition in its place then you can put logical partitions inside that
[09:26] <BillyZane2> what's a good media player that will play all file types?
[09:26] <spikeb> VLC, mplayer (and any of its front ends)
[09:27] <BillyZane2> ok...
[09:27] <BillyZane2> ty
[09:27] <Knight2000> @auronandace but i really need all of this 4
[09:27] <kostkon> antonio_, apt-cache policy broadcom-sta-source
[09:27] <auronandace> bekks: an extended partition is a container for logical partitions, so you can't convert a primary into an extended without getting rid of all its contents
[09:28] <auronandace> Knight2000: then you either need to get another harddrive or use a vm
[09:28] <antonio_> koston: here you go http://pastebin.com/9A0d35dZ
[09:28] <kostkon> antonio_, if you don't have it then give the following: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source && sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common
[09:29] <antonio_> I'm going to hold off for just a second...updating everything
[09:29] <kostkon> antonio_, nice, then do what ive told you
[09:29] <kostkon> antonio_, and then reboot
[09:29] <Knight2000> ok... i will get a ssd an put windows on it. after that i will use my old C partition for Ubuntu
[09:29] <Knight2000> should work, or?
[09:30] <auronandace> Knight2000: yes, just curious, what is on the 4 primaries that you can't get rid of?
[09:31] <jim__> Hi, I tried gnome 3.6 (fedora 18 and ubuntu 12.10) and it's unusably slow compared to gnome 3.4, unity and kde. i just move windows and lags so bad. It only happens when i use nvidia driver, nouveau seems to work better. Is there any solution?
[09:31] <Knight2000> C is for OS and some programms that must be installed on the same partition as windows, D for Data and E for all other programms
[09:32] <auronandace> Knight2000: so thats 3, is the other a system restore partition?
[09:32] <Knight2000> the last one is just 100MB named System Reserved. I think i is for the Windows BootLoader
[09:33] <Knight2000> had vanilla installation of windows. no restore partition
[09:33] <auronandace> Knight2000: i make sure my windows only takes up 1 partition, frees the others up for more OSes
[09:34] <antonio_> :(
[09:34] <antonio_> no workey
[09:34] <Knight2000> it takes just one. but i have to share Data and Programms (using Wine) with both OSs
[09:35] <kostkon> antonio_, :/
[09:35] <antonio_> this is driving me nuts!
[09:35] <auronandace> Knight2000: it would be a very bad idea to share a programs folder between wine and windows
[09:36] <kostkon> antonio_, is the new driver listed in the drivers tool now
[09:36] <Knight2000> because?
[09:36] <kevin_> my nautlius seams to have major problem with samba shares. It stops download after a few minutes. There is no problem when I use smbget... Does anyone know if you can do something to get it to work better?
[09:36] <auronandace> Knight2000: things will break catastrophically
[09:36] <antonio_> what drivers tool?
[09:36] <antonio_> additional drivers?
[09:36] <kostkon> antonio_, yes
[09:36] <antonio_> I cannot load additional drivers
[09:36] <antonio_> the program is installed...but I cannot find it
[09:37] <auronandace> Knight2000: better info in #winehq
[09:37] <kostkon> antonio_, i mean the software sources
[09:37] <antonio_> ah..nope
[09:38] <Knight2000> hm.... ok. but i cant (and dont want to, because of my file organization) move the contents from the other 2 Partitions to C
[09:40] <auronandace> Knight2000: programs installed in wine go to the linux partition, inside the .wine/ folder in /home
[09:40] <kostkon> antonio_, try following again the instructions on the wiki. your card's chip id is BCM4312
[09:40] <kostkon> antonio_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[09:40] <auronandace> Knight2000: anywho, i gotta go sorry
[09:40] <kevin_> my nautilus seams to have major problem with samba shares. It stops download after a few minutes. There is no problem when I use smbget... Does anyone know if you can do something to get it to work better?
[09:40] <Knight2000> ok. bye. thank you^^
[09:41] <antonio_> koston: was just reading that page..
[09:41] <antonio_> so should I use this one? sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[09:42] <maan> cxc
[09:42] <Em_> I am unable to install gparted or emacs using sudo apt-get install emacs/gparted
[09:42] <maan> hi michael
[09:42] <Knight2000> ok. i buy a SSD now... That will use less the time as moving all contents of E to C... Bye to all of you. And tank you all^^
[09:43] <kostkon> antonio_, try it yeah
[09:43] <Knight2000> *thank
[09:43] <antonio_> what should I do about the other ones I installed..how can I uninstall them?
[09:44] <Araneidae> What's the cleanest way to install the AMD Catalyst 13.1 driver?  And how do I figure out which version I'm running now?!
[09:44] <kostkon> antonio_, don't worry about that
[09:44] <antonio_> brb..reboot time
[09:44] <mah454> Hello
[09:44] <cspro> fucking hello
[09:45] <mah454> I enabled xdmcp in ubuntu (lightdm) , after restart lightdm , use this command for test : Xephyr -query 192.168.1.6 :1
[09:45] <mah454> but only show black screen !
[09:45] <oakmeow> hello!
[09:45] <mah454> How can debug it ?
[09:45] <antonio_> argh
[09:45] <antonio_> not working
[09:46] <subdesign> any good real time resource monitor app?
[09:46] <macsim> hi, I got a graphic bug with nividia GTX 560 Ti, after a time I got a black square on top left of my screen who allways stay over everything here is the screenshot : http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5608/cran26012013104002.png any idea ? thanks (I'm on 12.10)
[09:47] <antonio_> I'm at a complete loss right now as to what to do
[09:49] <antonio_> working!
[09:49] <antonio_> thanks koson!
[09:49] <kostkon> antonio_, how?!
[09:49] <antonio_> I went to software sources and applied the changes..
[09:50] <kevin_> my nautilus seams to have major problem with samba shares. It stops download after a few minutes. There is no problem when I use smbget... Does anyone know if you can do something to get it to work better?
[09:50] <antonio_> not sure what caused the change...
[09:50] <kostkon> antonio_, there was a driver listed there and you activated it?
[09:50] <antonio_> yeah
[09:50] <antonio_> I tried activating it before and it didn't work
[09:50] <kostkon> antonio_, i think installing the firmware helped a little :P
[09:50] <antonio_> ;)
[09:51] <antonio_> now I need to install kdenlive from source :(
[09:51] <kostkon> antonio_, why from source?
[09:51] <antonio_> isn't from source usually better?
[09:51] <antonio_> ie, more stable?
[09:51] <spikeb> no
[09:52] <antonio_> spikeb: do you use kdenlive?
[09:52] <spikeb> no, but generally speaking, using the distribution's packages is the best idea.
[09:52] <antonio_> I'm having a problem with kdenlive where a ton of the rendering profiles aren't available
[09:53] <kostkon> antonio_, they have a ppa if you want to use that, do it bu all means. it's an "official" ppa http://kdenlive.org/download-ubuntu
[09:54] <antonio_> koston: will that one be better than the one thats already in the package manager?
[09:58] <antonio_> koson: on http://kdenlive.org/download-development#script they talk about a development package for kdenlive.  Would it be unwise to use a development version?
[09:59] <kostkon> antonio_, not the unstable versiosn. the url i gave you was for the stable one
[10:00] <kostkon> antonio_, but it says on the page: "Versions of Kdenlive in official repositories are deprecated. It is strongly recommended to install Kdenlive 0.9 packages using Sunab's alternative repository"
[10:00] <coz_> hey guys, 12.04 screen flickering with kernel update, without nvidia driver, with nvidia driver screens goes black then back to normal when opening any application,,, any ideaas?
[10:00] <kostkon> antonio_, so, why not, just use the ppa. you'll get an update everytime there is a new version out, hopefully
[10:02] <Naeblis> Hi. Getting the following error when I try to install postgresql-server-dev-9.1: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:02] <Naeblis>  postgresql-server-dev-9.1 : Depends: libpq-dev (>= 9.1~) but it is not going to be installed
[10:02] <Naeblis> E: Broken packages
[10:03] <Naeblis> I tried to go update and dist-upgrade. Not working
[10:03] <Naeblis> *do
[10:08] <txomon> which is the difference between using apache-prefork-dev and apache-threaded-dev?
[10:09] <bekks> The threading model being used.
[10:09] <bekks> The first uses forks, the second threads.
[10:09] <txomon> bekks, but by default, which is used?
[10:10] <bekks> txomon: I think it is prefork, but I'm not that sure about it.
[10:12] <Petrov> hmm, i have installed win 8 and now i'll install ubuntu (dual boot, on the same hdd), but ubuntu can only see my hdd and not the partitions?
[10:12] <txomon> bekks seems that Apache HTTP Server - high speed threaded model
[10:12] <txomon> is the one used
[10:13] <bekks> txomon: The term "threading model" applies to both methods.
[10:13] <cristian_c> Hi
[10:14] <cristian_c> I've enabled suspend with: dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.UPower /org/freedesktop/UPower org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
[10:14] <wector> Hi all
[10:14] <cristian_c> It works but when I try resume, a kernel panic occurs or desktop is unusable
[10:14] <cristian_c> If I launch chromium by the terminal, I get: pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.1/resource: No such file or directory
[10:14] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem? Any ideas?
[10:14] <antonio_> argh
[10:15] <antonio_> Now I'm having a really hard time getting rendering profiles to work in kdenlive
[10:15] <wector> Not ideas
[10:16] <wector> Very bad
[10:19] <wector> Are some body
[10:19] <megha> i have installed dwm, but i am unable to change to fonts and color scheme of urxvt-256
[10:20] <_raven> AVPampa Live imi Nebelhorn Piratenradio: http://stuke7.piratenpartei-bayern.de:8000/mp3-96.mp3.m3u    Follow us on Twitter: NebelhornRadio
[10:20] <_raven> sry wrong channel
[10:21] <megha> as previously i had installed on arch linux, where they used .Xresoruces to enter the config where as ubuntu is using .Xdefault for the config.
[10:22] <bekks> megha: Both files are used...
[10:23] <megha> bekks: so i can use any of the files ?
[10:23] <wector> Nice man
[10:24] <megha> cause in arch linux only .Xresource file is used no .Xdefaults
[10:24] <wector> Of course
[10:25] <wector> :-)
[10:25] <mah454> Hello
[10:25] <mah454> I can not connect to xdmcp server !
[10:25] <mah454> only show black screen
[10:26] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[10:26] <bekks> mah454: Did you restart your X-Server?
[10:26] <mah454> bekks: yes
[10:27] <mah454> after configure lightdm
[10:27] <wector> Reboot trying before
[10:27] <bekks> mah454: So what did you configure in detail?
[10:27] <mah454> bekks: with this document : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/xdmcp
[10:27] <foll> h
[10:28] <mah454> I use KDE desktop
[10:29] <przemek> smuxi irc crashed so i will text you again :)
[10:31] <wector> So what
[10:34] <wector> My ubuntu is bad
[10:34] <ex3me> hey there :)
[10:35] <wector> Why not
[10:35] <ex3me> is there any volume problem with realtek sound chips? in my ubuntu the sound is very low normally
[10:35] <SAngeli> Can anyone please help me with ubuntu server for apt-get update error?
[10:35] <SAngeli> here is the error:
[10:35] <SAngeli> W: Unable to retreave bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_source_Sources Sum hash does not correspond
[10:35] <SAngeli> W: Unable to retreave bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_universe_source_Sources Sum hash does not correspond
[10:35] <ex3me> sorry, no idea...im kinda new to ubuntu
[10:36] <SAngeli> I was told to run sudo software-properties-gtk but get another error:
[10:36] <SAngeli> http://pastebin.com/nrPTvabv
[10:36] <SAngeli> if anyone can please help it would be appreciated.
[10:36] <antonio_> anyone have experience installing adobe air on ubuntu 12.10?
[10:36] <SAngeli> Thanks ex3me
[10:36] <wector> Thx
[10:36] <ex3me> have you had a look in the ubuntu forums? normally there are very good manualrs
[10:37] <ex3me> i found a solution there for most of the problems, exept mine
[10:37] <SAngeli> I got this aswer from forum
[10:37] <SAngeli> I am googling arond now
[10:37] <ex3me> ok, im out...im too new to help anyone it seems
[10:37] <wector> Can I do play counter strike via it
[10:37] <antonio_> night
[10:37] <ex3me> i managed to play Cs. 1.6 once in openGL
[10:38] <ex3me> it was working with a emulator, i think it was not wine, it was called different
[10:38] <wector> I'm will
[10:39] <ex3me> does anyone  know how to fix a volume problem with a realtek 97 AC HD Soundcard?
[10:40] <wector> No thanks
[10:40] <ex3me> does it make sense to try other linux systems as well? does others use different drivers maybe?
[10:40] <bekks> ex3me: No.
[10:41] <ex3me> ok i see...thanks :)
[10:41] <wector> Right
[10:43] <wector> No no no
[10:44] <antonio_> anyone have any luck installing adobe air on 12.10?
[10:45] <wector> I have no some money at all
[10:45] <shakkir> how to install ubuntu?
[10:45] <ex3me> is this a serious question shakkir?
[10:46] <SAngeli> I solved this problem running this command: apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:46] <SAngeli> now all is fine.
[10:46] <SAngeli> thank s
[10:46] <ex3me> congratz mate :)
[10:48] <wector> Tell about me and it
[10:48] <wector> More
[10:52] <cristian_c> An other question:
[10:52] <cristian_c> What command must I use from terminal to make the Find box appeared in chromium?
[10:53] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:53] <jjeronimo> find box?
[10:54] <bekks> cristian_c: There is no such command.
[10:54] <jjeronimo> oh ic
[10:54] <badday> hi there, I am trying to install sugar on top of Ubuntu ARM, therefore, I followed the suggestions given here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution#Installation; everything finishes successfully, but when I try to install sweets desktop via "apt-get install sweets-desktop", it results in http://pastebin.com/tKDpNdku ; and I noticed that "apt-get update" tells me: http://pastebin.com/Shnaa9c6 , so there seems to be some issue with the sources, b
[10:54] <badday>  ut I guess keys were automatically installed by the script?
[10:55] <cristian_c> bekks, oh
[10:56] <wector> Well I try do
[10:57] <tockitj_> i need to build vim from source - how to install it and make it available for removal later on ? :(
[10:58] <cristian_c> bekks, ok, but why can I use shortcut for my browser (Home, Back, Next)?
[10:58] <cristian_c> *shortcuts
[10:58] <bekks> cristian_c: Shortcuts in a browser arent terminal commands.
[10:58] <bekks> cristian_c: And they have nothing in common.
[10:59] <cristian_c> bekks, ok, but can I add other shortcuts?
[11:00] <cristian_c> *further
[11:00] <wector> I added
[11:00] <bekks> cristian_c: No.
[11:03] <Unknown0BC> Good Day, When trying to start ffserver on Ubuntu Oneiric I get an error: bind(port 8090): Address family not supported by protocol
[11:03] <Unknown0BC> \
[11:03] <Unknown0BC> Reasearch indicates that it is possibly a bug in libav.
[11:03] <Unknown0BC> Now how can I upgrade just that lib ?
[11:08] <sote> Hello from Melbourne Australia, Issue: can not change clock from 24-hour to AM/PM . It will change in the Advanced Settings but the clock itself remains in 24 hour mode, Can not right click on clock it only shows ABOUT.  Indicator Applet Complete 0.5.0 - Want my clock in AM/PM as I am not in the ARMY!
[11:09] <Guest59721> here you can hack any FACEBOOK ACOUNT http://hackfacebookaccount.org/?ref=2093068
[11:09] <sote> 12.04
[11:10] <sote> logged in using gnome as unity annoys me
[11:12] <Aziroshin> Hello
[11:12] <alocer> "apt-get --install-suggests" will it install all the suggested packages for the dependencies ?
[11:13] <sote> who is that directed @
[11:13] <BlackWeb> I'm try to enable Desktop Cube Which  its showing it as being, but Still getting just the desktop wall, has anyone ran into this problem?
[11:13] <sote> untick wall
[11:14] <Aziroshin> I have tried creating a bootable media of 12.10. I have available 700MB CD RWs as well as a 4 GB  SD card in a card reader on USB. dd-ing the CD iso onto the stick directly as well as unetbooting the image onto a single partition on the stick both produce the same results: Ubuntu hangs on the bootscreen, F1 revealing I/O Error in relation to /dev/sda
[11:14] <Aziroshin> *medium
[11:16] <Aziroshin> Well, I'll just install 12.04
[11:17] <Aziroshin> I can always convert it to 12.10
[11:17] <Barfolomew> anyone here gotten emacspeak to work?
[11:17] <eeepc> hey there, i got xubuntu 12.10 on my asus eeepc (1005p) and i tried to connect it with a TFT Monitor. now that i cant see anything after i login. Installed lxde-core on a tty, here i can log in. can anyone help me? what file needs to be edited?
[11:19] <alocer> eeepc: Do you have access to terminal.
[11:19] <alocer> eeepc: Can you reconfigure the xorg.conf again? ?
[11:19] <eeepc> alocer: yes im on lxde know
[11:20] <eeepc> alocer: thought there is no xorg.conf file? i didn't find it
[11:21] <sgo11> with google-chrome, when I visit github.com, it shows "The site's security certificate is not trusted!". what's going on? never meet this problem before.
[11:22] <larsduesing> sgo11: here is everything ok with that certificate
[11:22] <sgo11> if I use chrome through ssh tunnel, it works fine.
[11:23] <alocer> eeepc: try read " man 5 xorg.conf" if it helps . I don't know anything else
[11:23] <larsduesing> sgoll: Offending certificate is "DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1" - that is perfectly valid
[11:23] <sgo11> can my ISP change the certificate somehow ?
[11:23] <larsduesing> sgoll it can theoretically.
[11:24] <alocer> sgo11: where do you live ?
[11:24] <larsduesing> can you have a look which CA is issuing yours?
[11:24] <sgo11> alocer, china.
[11:24] <eeepc> alocer: i will try it thank you!
[11:24] <alocer> eeepc: :P that was all i know
[11:25] <alocer> sgo11: u have that thing (censorship) right? if yes they have simulated git webserever
[11:25] <ben1u> hello, I had a kernel panic last night. Where can I find more info about that crash?
[11:25] <alocer> i have same problem with google.com
[11:26] <larsduesing> alocer: no, only a "firewall" that breaks up any ssl-connection
[11:26] <eeepc> alocer: i there a way to uninstall xserver and install it agein?
[11:26] <rocktop> I have ksoftirqd take 100% of CPU usage can some one help please ?
[11:26] <alocer> eeepc: dont do that
[11:27] <daniel13> how do i install ubuntu without a dvd?
[11:27] <eeepc> alocer: ok :)
[11:27] <alocer> eeepc: reconfigure it
[11:27] <k1l> daniel13: use ausb stick?
[11:27] <k1l> *a usb
[11:27] <larsduesing> eeepc: "apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg" But it may break your installation.
[11:27] <Soopah> daniel13: with a USB key
[11:28] <alocer> eeepc: nvidia  have some tools if you are using nvidia graohic card
[11:28] <sgo11> I have to use github.com through ssh tunnel from now on. the speed is too slow. what a pity.......
[11:29] <Soopah> daniel13: thk you...
[11:29] <eeepc> larsduesing: that could help, thanks
[11:29] <larsduesing> eeepc: and a "sudo" in front :)
[11:29] <larsduesing> eeepc: np
[11:30] <k1l> eeepc: wait.
[11:30] <eeepc> larsduesing: yes, i did it. i will reboot no and see if it worked
[11:30] <eeepc> kil: ok
[11:30] <k1l> eeepc: there is no xorg.conf by default anymore
[11:30] <k1l> if you need one just make one
[11:31] <alocer> eeepc: make one
[11:31] <k1l> !hcl | eeepc
[11:31] <k1l> take a look into that lists if you hardware needs some special setings
[11:31] <subdesign> anyone found Clementine audio player sometimes very quiet?
[11:33] <eeepc> k1l: xubuntu already works on my netbook, but i cant login to xfce anymore. the config must be broken when i tried to connect a TFT Monitor. i installed lxde on a tty
[11:34] <eeepc> k1l: im now on lxde on this netbook
[11:34] <jacklk> Hello, I have Ubuntu installed on my desktop but it has no network card, is there a way to update it? I have another working computer with internet, and a USB stick. Is it possible to download anything?
[11:34] <k1l> eeepc: ? xubuntu worked and then stopped working? what did you do just before it wasnt working anymore?
[11:34] <alocer> eeepc: there was tool that allow you to reset the xfce configuration
[11:35] <k1l> eeepc: instead of installing over and over again i would look out for the real issue
[11:35] <eeepc> k1l: i connected a TFT monitor, then my screen was black.
[11:37] <k1l> eeepc: you tried the shortcuts for switching the display output?
[11:37] <eeepc> k1l: yes, didn't worked.
[11:38] <sote> back soon, will try another DE to see if I can change clock from 24-hour format to AM/PM, Advanced Settings didn't help!
[11:39] <alocer> eeepc: do you have a problem without TFT monitor connected  ?
[11:39] <dr_willis> learn to read military  time..  ;-)
[11:40] <sote> my mate typed it out for me as a joke
[11:40] <ioria> zulu time ?
[11:40] <bekks> dr_willis: 0500 ZULU. :P
[11:40] <sote> 13=1 14=2 and so on lol
[11:40] <dr_willis> give me a sit-rep!
[11:40] <eeepc> alocer: when a try to login to a xfce session, yes theres no screen. i can login to lxde but not to xfce
[11:41] <ankur> hi guys i have a problem plz help me
[11:41] <ankur> i had 4 partiotions in windows c,d,e,f
[11:41] <k1l> eeepc: can you pastebinit the .xsession-errors from that user after you tried to loogin into the xfce?
[11:41] <alocer> k1l , eeepc : Shall we reset the configuration of XFCE or not ?
[11:42] <alocer> eeepc: try "xconf" it helped me alot
[11:43] <alocer> sry
[11:43] <alocer> xfconf
[11:43] <sote> give xfce 5 mins to load then try right clicking on the screen ... I started off with basic ubuntu 12.04 but added about 5 other DE's to it so I could have my own version of Ulimate Edition that could actually be seen! but still it's ubuntu 12.04 depending on what DE I log into.
[11:43] <eeepc> k1l: here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/1XrdMSwE
[11:44] <SAngeli> Does anyone know MDADM (Radi software under Ubuntu server)? I have a question to ask
[11:45] <k1l> eeepc: you need to login to xfce and after that upload the file from CLI to no be overwritten by your lxde session
[11:45] <eeepc> alocer: yes i think i have to reset the default xfce configuration. can u tell me how i can do this?
[11:46] <alocer> k1l: upload what ?
[11:46] <eeepc> k1l: theres no screen when i login to xfce
[11:46] <k1l> alocer: not you, the eeepcuser. the file .xsession-errors
[11:47] <sote> opens games, clicks AMOR , back later have a nice chat session o/ bye bye o/
[11:47] <k1l> eeepc: yes. and problems from that get logged into that file. but it gets overwritten when you login into lxde
[11:48] <eeepc> k1l: ok i understand this. but how can i send u that file
[11:48] <k1l> !pastebinit | eeepc
[11:49] <eeepc> ok i will try it
[11:50] <ioria> one time i deleted all the  .  (hidden) folder in my home directory and xfce  restarted
[11:50] <alocer> try deleting .cache and .config  in your home dir's but first get a backup.
[11:50] <ioria> yep :-P
[11:54] <ioria> i'd like to start a project to build ubuntu under cygwin on windows.... :-) tha's sound idiotic ?
[11:55] <theadmin> ioria: Pretty much, what do you mean "build ubuntu"? Build APT?
[11:55] <theadmin> Because that's the core of it
[11:55] <ioria> yes
[11:56] <ioria> dpkg, at least
[11:57] <theadmin> ioria: Might be possible, but I'm not sure it will work. Not all Linux apps build on Cygwin.
[11:57] <theadmin> ioria: Also, APT is more of a binary package manager, and Cygwin does not offer Linux binary support...
[11:58] <ioria> theadmin: thanks for the reply... i'll be thinking about it mybe something like portage that emules APT
[11:58] <theadmin> ioria: Generally speaking, hamsters. I think you can run Ubuntu on coLinux, though.
[11:59] <alimj> ioria: Theadmin is right. Not all Linux Apps could be built on Cygwin. By the way, There is already "apt-cyg" available for Cygwin that mimic apt-get syntax
[11:59] <user8737> lxpanel has totally messed up. Won't show minimized windows & widgets have moved to the left. I want them on the far right.
[11:59] <ioria> alimj: thanks
[11:59] <Mrokii> Hello. What (if any) is the recommended way to install Qt5 on Ubuntu?
[12:00] <theadmin> Mrokii: The recommended way is wait for 13.04, I think.
[12:00] <alimj> ioria: Anytime - http://code.google.com/p/apt-cyg/
[12:01] <ioria> alimj: that's interesting tx
[12:04] <Mrokii> theadmin: And if I don't want to wait for 13.04?
[12:05] <Mrokii> theadmin: Maybe I found an answer myself. There seems to be a repository for Qt5.
[12:06] <k1l> Mrokii: if you want it for ubuntu-phone the get-started guide mentions a PPA: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/
[12:06] <megha>  if i am  having .xinitrc file, how can i execute it ?
[12:07] <megha> because in there, there are few commands to be executed before the dwm starts.
[12:07] <k1l> megha: restart the dm?
[12:07] <megha> conversely where can i put those command that are there in .xinitrc file ?
[12:07] <theadmin> Mrokii: Installing an unsupported Qt version can likely break Qt apps. You've been warned.
[12:07] <jrib> megha: how do you login/
[12:07] <megha> k1l: but if we are using login manager you can't use .xinitrc file
[12:07] <Mrokii> k1l: I was just interested in Qt5 in general.
[12:08] <Mrokii> theadmin: Okay, thanks.
[12:08] <megha> jrib: still i have to disable the login manager and execute the .xinitrc script.
[12:08] <jrib> megha: is that what you want to do?
[12:09] <megha> jrib: if there is another way round than it's more better. keeping the login manager and also executing commands in .xinitrc script
[12:09] <k1l> megha: so you want a autostart for programs?
[12:10] <jrib> megha: create a ~/.xsession (instead of ~/.xinitrc) and use "user xsession" session in your login manager
[12:10] <g0tcha> hey guys, how can i check if im running the latest version of a package in ubuntu server?
[12:10] <theadmin> k1l: Most desktop environments read commands in ~/.config/autostart, will that do?
[12:10] <theadmin> megha: Sorry, the above was for you
[12:10] <jrib> g0tcha: apt-get update && apt-cache policy PACKAGE
[12:10] <theadmin> megha: Or what jrib says
[12:11] <megha> wow 2 options in hand :)
[12:11] <g0tcha> jrib, thanks.. i have znc 0.206 installed, and when i check it says package 1.0 for ubuntu is there, but it doesnt want to update to it
[12:11] <k1l> theadmin: im not sure about that
[12:11] <g0tcha> keeps telling me i have the latest verison.. any idea?
[12:12] <Mrokii> theadmin: I wanted to try out this repo, btw: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-proper
[12:12] <jrib> g0tcha: show the output of « apt-cache policy znc » and your attempt at upgrading it in a pastebin please
[12:12] <k1l> g0tcha: maybe need to run a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:12] <theadmin> k1l: Well, it's more of a folder with .desktop files with Exec= lines, but all in all that does what it needs to do, run programs on login.
[12:12] <g0tcha> jrib, alright, one sec
[12:12] <megha> jrib: what you meant was instead of .xinitrc file create .xsession file and from the login manager select user xsession right ?
[12:14] <jrib> megha: yes
[12:14] <g0tcha> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572524/
[12:14] <theadmin> Mrokii: Well, go ahead -- just if it breaks don't blame me :P
[12:14] <k1l> theadmin: i think /etc/xdg/autostart/  should work, too, with the .desktop files
[12:14] <cristian_c> bekks, I was told that in kubuntu browser shortcut are possible
[12:14] <g0tcha> k1l, im on server 12.04.1
[12:14] <Mrokii> theadmin: I didn't intend to balme anybody but myself. :I
[12:14] <Mrokii> :)
[12:14] <jrib> g0tcha: are you pinning?
[12:15] <g0tcha> jrib, what do you mean?
[12:15] <cristian_c> *shortcuts
[12:15] <k1l> g0tcha: version 1 is in backports. the regular universe just got the 0.206 version
[12:16] <megha> thanks k1l , jrib , theadmin :) rebooting my system
[12:17] <g0tcha> k1l, tbh, im not sure i get what you mean
[12:17] <jrib> g0tcha: what's the output of « apt-cache policy »
[12:17] <auronandace> !backports | g0tcha
[12:19] <g0tcha> jrib, you want me to paste all that?
[12:19] <theadmin> !pastebin | g0tcha
[12:20] <jrib> g0tcha: ah, seems a change was made to backports so packages weren't installed by default.  See the link auronandace sent you towards the bottom ("Installing Backports")
[12:20] <megha> jrib: the commands inside the .xsession file is not getting executed
[12:20] <jrib> megha: what session did you choose in the login manager?
[12:20] <g0tcha> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572543/
[12:21] <megha> it gave me xclinet script
[12:21] <jrib> megha: what?
[12:22] <megha> ya it's giving me that option. and that ran into my dwm
[12:24] <megha> jrib: i am able to run both the instances script as well as dwm using both of them i can log into dwm
[12:24] <Chriys> Hi there. I have my ubuntu server 12.04 running postfix with courier imap. But it cannot send or receive email outside of the local network. I tried to connect the server using thunderbird but doesn't work. I generated a self-signed certificate. The computer has 192.168.1.101 local ip connected to the TP-Link router and the ports are open.  Here is the configuration of postfix http://paste.ub
[12:24] <Chriys> untu.com/1572489/. i did the steps on ubuntu website to install and config postfix https://help.ubuntu.com/11.10/serverguide/postfix.html  and i also did those steps for config of mysql with postfix http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/courier-mysql-ubuntu-9.10-karmic
[12:25] <jrib> megha: here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/77191/how-can-i-use-lightdm-for-user-defined-sessions I thought they had added that in by default though.... may want to do more research
[12:25] <jrib> megha: (see the first answer although it is wrong about ".xinitrc")
[12:27] <megha> jrib: ya going through it.
[12:27] <badday> is there a terminal command to show available desktop environments and change it if necessary?
[12:27] <megha> jrib: 1 ans is wrong ?
[12:28] <megha> i have to create xsession file in /etc/X11
[12:29] <theadmin> badday: You can change desktop environments on the login screen. The officially supported ones by Ubuntu are Unity, KDE, Xfce and LXDE.
[12:30] <theadmin> badday: You can install those from the repos.
[12:30] <badday> theadmin: yeah, I know, but currently I have only the core installed and therefore no graphical UI and therefore no login screen
[12:30] <jrib> megha: no, what that first answer says is what I do.  But he mentions that it will execute .xinitrc and that is wrong.  It will execute ~/.xsession
[12:31] <megha> ya correct
[12:31] <AtumT> badday, and gnome
[12:31] <badday> AtumT, theadmin: is there not also a dpkg-command?
[12:33] <megha> jrib: should i place all of my commands into /etc/X11/xsession ?
[12:33] <jrib> megha: no...
[12:33] <megha> as by default in my home directory i was not havin xsession file
[12:33] <megha> jrib: ok
[12:33] <backbox> hi:)
[12:34] <megha> jrib: so how can i do autostart from programs in window managers ?
[12:34] <megha> i.e. manually
[12:34] <jrib> megha: use ~/.xsession and select the session you just created in your login manager
[12:34] <megha> if this works than this will be helpfull as then there will be no need for any file.
[12:35] <megha> jrib: ok doing it.
[12:35] <watcha> hi, i'm trying to install sphinxsearch 2.0.6, but when I run the install, it says that it need libmysqlclient16 ? can't seem to install it thou?
[12:36] <ioria> badday: what's the problem with aptitude ?
[12:36] <badday> ioria: sorry, didn´t get u
[12:37] <auronandace> !aptitude | ioria
[12:38] <ioria> badday: you want to install another DE, don't you ?
[12:38] <badday> ioria: no, I already installed it but want to make sure it appears and is correctly installed
[12:38] <megha> badday: for that you have to log out to check
[12:39] <ioria> badday: yep logout and select in the menu the new DE
[12:40] <oal> I've set up a few VMs, and i need to forward some ports to them. Now, I use ufw. Is this still the best way to do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833844?
[12:40] <markaum> Hello, does anyone here know how to install oracle database on ubuntu?
[12:41] <markaum> I'm having a lot of trouble trying to install it
[12:41] <bekks> markaum: Thats not officially supported by Oracle.
[12:41] <patrunjel> hi, could anyone please recommend an mp3 player/addon that remembers where I've stopped listening to something and starts from there the next time I play the file?
[12:42] <bekks> markaum: Because it isnt supported :)
[12:42] <markaum> bekks: I know, we use RHEL for our servers, but we are trying to change the OS that the dev team is using
[12:43] <bekks> markaum: Which will lead to an totally unsupported environment which leads to the loss of support by ORacle. Best advice: Dont do it.
[12:45] <markaum> bekks: We develop software using the Oracle ADF Framework, and we have to use JDeveloper. Using JDev on windows is frustrating, crashes a lot
[12:45] <markaum> bekks: On Linux, we have a huge gain of productivity. The only setback is having to use virtual machines to run Oracle Linux
[12:47] <badday> ioria, megha, AtumT, theadmin: The thing is that if I restart it tells me "failed to load session ubuntu", therefore I would like to check which desktop environments are installed
[12:50] <markaum> Anyone knows how to install Oracle XE on Ubuntu?
[12:51] <markaum> I've tried many tutorials, but still, the database refuses to start up
[12:51] <Aziroshin> Hello
[12:52] <Aziroshin> I successfully burned the 12.04 image, and booted it. Unfortunately, "ubuntu" and a blank password are not working.
[12:52] <Aziroshin> It's telling me the login credentials are wrong.
[12:52] <patrunjel> hi, could anyone please recommend an mp3 player/addon that remembers where I've stopped listening to something and starts from there the next time I play the file?
[12:52] <Aziroshin> I know smplayer does this, but it's primarily a video player.
[12:53] <patrunjel> thanks, I'll try it out and see how it goes
[12:53] <Aziroshin> I know it does it for video files
[12:53] <Aziroshin> I doubt it'll be any different for mp3s.
[12:54] <patrunjel> it might, since you expect mp3s to be songs and such, but I'll sort it out
[12:54] <patrunjel> thanks
[12:58] <Aziroshin> Does anyone have an idea about logins not working on a non-modified live cd?
[12:58] <Aziroshin> I don't get it. That can't be right.
[12:58] <n8w> hey guys
[12:59] <n8w> i need to make a full backup of my deb system(including partitons etc). what app would u recommand me?
[13:00] <hav0k> hi
[13:01] <auronandace> n8w: you could use dd if you want an exact backup
[13:03] <n8w> auronandace: hm it looks quite ok...simple n it does what i need...nice...what about rsync?
[13:03] <auronandace> !backup | n8w
[13:06] <Aziroshin> Hmm. Ill try making an USB stick of that and modify passwd
[13:06] <lobo> no
[13:07] <Guest19612> i co dalej?
[13:07] <markaum> Does anyone at all knows how to install Oracle XE on Ubuntu?
[13:09] <krux> have you asked google ?..
[13:13] <watcha> hm, how can I see what permission, a folder has, via. terminal?
[13:14] <usr13> watcha: ls -l
[13:14] <llutz> watcha: ls -ld /folder
[13:14] <watcha> thanks:)
[13:15] <vnc786> missing 1366x768 on ubuntu 12.10 any idea tried xorg from intel website but no success
[13:22] <vnc786> quit
[13:23] <watcha> what is the most simple/newbie friendly ftp server to setup?
[13:25] <wjtaylor_> any way to disable the screen saver while watching web movies ... you tube... ted... etc.
[13:27] <Lemur> hey i just got ubuntu how do i change the resolution?
[13:27] <ikonia> Lemur: the display properties tool
[13:28] <Lemur> wheres that?
[13:28] <Lemur> in system setting?
[13:28] <ikonia> Lemur: I'd suggest reading https://help.ubuntu.com to get an understanding of the basics of using the desktop
[13:28] <Lemur> k thx
[13:30] <kylescottmcgill> is there a Regex channel or does someone know how to make something conditional, or better put, "find X where it CAN contain this"
[13:31] <kylescottmcgill> basically im trying to find whitespace or no whitespace between an xml document <xml></xml> <-- i want to find this or <xml> </xml>
[13:33] <dandandan> hey i have a very strange problem in 12.10 server
[13:34] <dandandan> does anyone have a minute to give me a second opinion?
[13:34] <sote> couldn't work out my clock issues in gnome classic so logged out and into gnome... now my clock is in AM/PM mode.. so now I'm happy
[13:34] <ThinkT510> dandandan: if anyone does then they will chime in, so just post the issue
[13:34] <dandandan> sure
[13:35] <dandandan> ok ill make a paste
[13:37] <mrshr3d> Kyle - you might be able to, I'm no expert but there are good tuts on regret just do a google
[13:37] <watcha> hm just got my apache server running, everything is fine from here, I can see my site just fine.. but not from my laptop on the same local network? just show 404
[13:38] <mrshr3d> Watcha, can you see it by IP address?
[13:38] <watcha> not from my other computer no,  and from the server itself it just redirects to localhost when using ip.
[13:39] <watcha> but when I restart apache, it say( servers fully qualified domain name .... 127.0.1.1 ... for servername=
[13:39] <ikonia> watcha: so ?
[13:40] <ikonia> watcha: that's only a warning because you've not set a valid fqdn
[13:40] <nbt> kylescottmcgill: <xml>\s*</xml> will match <xml></xml> or <xml> </xml> with any number of spaces
[13:40] <nbt> is that what you meant?
[13:40] <watcha> okay, so that's nothing to worry about?
[13:40] <dandandan> ok so heres the deal, im wgetting a file to a ubuntu server and i get a http redirect like so pastbin.com/1YFJAfK9 . n
[13:41] <ikonia> watcha: it means it's just bound to that ip address, as there is no fqdn
[13:41] <dandandan> from centos, and older versions of ubuntu it works fine
[13:41] <dandandan> and ive tried it from different providers/locations, same result
[13:42] <ikonia> dandandan: what is the url you are trying to get ?
[13:42] <dandandan> it only seems to happen on ubuntu
[13:42] <dandandan> i cant really share it
[13:42] <ikonia> then I can't really help
[13:42] <dandandan> it has sensitive information
[13:42] <dandandan> i can show you what the server is returning if you like
[13:42] <ikonia> it's fine, I'll leave it there - good luck
[13:42] <dandandan> i can dump the headers and edit them out
[13:43] <dandandan> np
[13:43] <dandandan> thanks anyways
[13:43] <mrshr3d> Rplace the sensitive info with something else then ;-)
[13:49] <sgo11> normally, what image resolution should I use for mp3 id3 tag? I can not find the answer by google. thanks.
[13:50] <dandandan> ha
[13:51] <dandandan> in the process of doing that i see
[13:51] <dandandan> for some reason the ip resolves to a completely different machine
[13:51] <dandandan> why? no idea
[13:52] <sgo11> ha, some forum suggests to use 600x600
[13:52] <dandandan> was a noob to miss that one tho
[13:55] <wildNBK> hi all, just installed a new system, it has 3 hdds, but I can only see 2, one that the instal is on and my storage drive, can't see the new one
[13:55] <kylescottmcgill> nbt your a legend
[13:55] <kylescottmcgill> thanks
[13:56] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: how are they all connected?
[13:57] <jiffe1> I am trying to upgrade my install of mongodb using their distro http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org/repo/ubuntu-upstart but after apt-get update the version isn't any different
[13:57] <jiffe1> it is on a new machine I setup with the same version of ubuntu
[13:57] <wildNBK> all in sata2 ports
[13:57] <jiffe1> I even removed the distro and apt-get update and the package is still there with the same version
[13:58] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: in what way are you seeing only 2 disks? what tools are you using to check?
[13:59] <wildNBK> just nautilus at the moment
[13:59] <OerHeks>  wildNBK what is the size of hdd 3 ?
[13:59] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: sudo fdisk -l
[14:00] <wildNBK> ahhh, is shows in gparted as 'unallocated'
[14:00] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: so it is detected, theres just nothing on it yet
[14:01] <wildNBK> yep, just writing the partition table now, sorted, sorry to mess you about
[14:01] <dandandan> so
[14:01] <ThinkT510> !yay | wildNBK
[14:01] <dandandan> trns out my dns is being hijacked
[14:01] <dandandan> the http requests get re routed to the virgin island
[14:01] <jiffe1> well an apt-get upgrade did upgrade to 2.2.2 even though apt-cache show shows 2.2.0, must be cached :)
[14:02] <dandandan> this happens on amazon ec2 and also OVH
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:07] <sote> hello blue, from Australia
[14:09] <wildNBK> ThinkT510, not out of the woods yet, I can't create files/folders on the new drive as I don't have permission, how do i resolve this?
[14:10] <mangoix> kubuntu better then ubuntu?
[14:10] <mangoix> i like the graphic more on kubuntu
[14:10] <mangoix> kubuntu menu its more like windows "easy" to use
[14:11] <sote> mount-manager ? worked for me
[14:11] <TomyLobo> ok this is nuts: my laptop has ecrypted home folders. my public key is in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on that thing. if i log in while i'm logged in from somewhere else, everything is fine and the ssh server accepts my key
[14:11] <DWSR> Anyone here use GlusterFS?
[14:11] <nuxninja> hello
[14:11] <TomyLobo> however, while i'm not logged in, it *refuses* my key
[14:12] <DWSR> I'm wondering if it's possible to initialize a storage brick with data already existing
[14:12] <bekks> TomyLobo: Because your key cant be accessed then.
[14:12] <TomyLobo> bekks yes, i realize. it's still nuts
[14:12] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: depends what filesystem you put on it
[14:12] <ThinkT510> !fstab | wildNBK
[14:12] <TomyLobo> it allows you to lock yourself out of your server, for instance
[14:12] <bekks> TomyLobo: Thats one of the caveats of encryption - I dont use it :P
[14:13] <bilel> hi, I've just installed ubuntu aside windows with a usb live key, but why grub hasn't been installed so that I can choose which partition I want to use? Do I have to install it myself?
[14:13] <sote> should I need to use a anti-virus on Ubuntu? I know what sites I use and with the bad site I use Firefox with adblock plus and NoScript.
[14:14] <ThinkT510> !av | sote
[14:14] <sote> the only nasty site is redtube
[14:14] <TomyLobo> so you dont need antivirus, eh?
[14:15] <TomyLobo> yesterday i was told in this channel, that there's nothing stopping a keylogger from logging my password entered into kdesudo
[14:15] <BluesKaj> !antivirus | TomyLobo
[14:15] <sote> that's what I thought, I do access windows via the QNAP err well the storage folders like media
[14:15] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: a keylogger isn't a virus
[14:16] <TomyLobo> but it's malware and an antivirus would detect it
[14:16] <bekks> TomyLobo: No. AntiVIRUS is designed against VIRUSES. :)
[14:16] <sote> clam-av works well but never needed to use it
[14:16] <bekks> TomyLobo: It will not detect rootkits, etc.
[14:17] <mangoix> ThinkT510: it is. trojan / virus
[14:17] <TomyLobo> ok, then let me link you a piece of antiviruswormtrojanrootkitmalwarespam software
[14:17] <TomyLobo> "antivirus" is a shorthand
[14:18] <vulte> I'm having a strange problem with GNOME/possibly compiz...Odd pixelation occurs on text and, for a little bit after boot, the wallpaper
[14:18] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: not all "antivirus" products protect against all malware threats
[14:18] <BluesKaj> bekks, then the question is , is linux safer from rootkits and keyloggers than other OSs ?
[14:18] <mangoix> ThinkT510: why shouldnt keylogger be virus? caouse it is a smaller version of virus, that calls for a trojan.
[14:19] <bekks> mangoix: Because a keyloagger does not spread itself.
[14:19] <sote> only issue I was having earlier was in Gnome Classic... Couldn't change the clock from 24-hour to AM/PM even though in the advanced settings it said it changed but the clock still showed 24-hour format :( so I logged out of Gnome Classic and into Gnome
[14:19] <TomyLobo> 8. Ownership of the means of production is in the hands of the workers
[14:19] <TomyLobo> :D
[14:19] <mangoix> bekks: no matter. btw, yes it can spread itself too.
[14:19] <mangoix> if it want to
[14:19] <ThinkT510> mangoix: a virus does damage to the system, a keyloger collects keystrokes, at best its spyware not a virus
[14:20] <mangoix> ThinkT510: it diffrent from time to time, it could damage your system at same time too.
[14:21] <sote> I thought all computers kept a log of the keys that have been pressed/ typed
[14:21] <TomyLobo> that would be insane
[14:21] <ThinkT510> mangoix: spyware just collects information and can pass it on, thats it, anywho this is getting offtopic
[14:21] <vulte> could I get some help..Odd text and wallpaper pixelation is occurring on my 12.10 install. It could be associated with my amd radeon card
[14:22] <sote> I didn't like 12.10 went back to 12.04
[14:22] <mangoix> ThinkT510: but it could also damage your system at same time.
[14:22] <ThinkT510> mangoix: no, it collects information, please stop this discussion now
[14:23] <DWSR> Anyone that can help me with initializing a storage brick on GlusterFS with pre-existing data?
[14:23] <mangoix> ThinkT510: it could also damage your system at same time + collects information. Stop now.
[14:23] <mangoix> depends on the trojan
[14:23] <kostkon> ThinkT510, mangoix, stop it :P
[14:24] <nuxninja> boop
[14:24] <nuxninja> msg ls
[14:25] <vulte> could I get some help..Odd text and wallpaper pixelation is occurring on my 12.10 install. It could be associated with my amd radeon card
[14:25] <nuxninja> hi
[14:25] <TomyLobo> "virus", "keylogger" and "trojan" are distinct categories of malware, that may or may not come bundled in one package. malware from each of these categories is detected by one or another program commonly referred to as "antivirus". can we agree on that?
[14:25] <wector> Strike
[14:25] <nuxninja> vulte install amd driver
[14:25] <nuxninja> from amd.com
[14:26] <vulte> nuxninja: i'll give that a shot. thanks
[14:26] <TomyLobo> vulte err
[14:26] <TomyLobo> it might be hard to get rid of
[14:26] <vulte> how do you mean?
[14:26] <TomyLobo> make sure it has a clean uninstall
[14:26] <mangoix> TomyLobo: thats what i said. :)
[14:27] <mangoix> leave it now..
[14:27] <TomyLobo> you said a keylogger is a smaller version of a virus, which is that pissed ThinkT510 off
[14:27] <TomyLobo> s/that/what/
[14:27] <mangoix> stfu now
[14:27] <mangoix> leave it
[14:27] <mangoix> i said
[14:27] <vulte> a .run file.. how would i run that? ./*.run from terminal?
[14:27] <mangoix> :S
[14:27] <FloodBot1> mangoix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:28] <sote> AMOR = Amusing Misuse Of Resources <-- love it but want to make it so I have many AMOR critters on my screen, How would I do this
[14:28] <mangoix> TomyLobo: a keylogger can be a virus as well.
[14:28] <mangoix> so leave it now and stfu..
[14:29] <TomyLobo> can be != is. it's subset vs equivalence.
[14:29] <mangoix> TomyLobo: EYYY do you wanna lick my hairy balls?
[14:29] <mangoix> STFU I TOLD YOU IDIOT
[14:29] <mangoix> we leave this now..
[14:29] <totem> dr_willis, good morning
[14:30] <vulte> That was mature
[14:30] <nuxninja> vulte like that from terminal: $sudo bash <file name...........>.sh
[14:30] <vulte> ah bash. ok thanks
[14:31] <mangoix> TomyLobo: its enought now.
[14:31] <sote> what is mangoix's problem?
[14:31] <mangoix> leave it
[14:31] <charminthemoose> How do I get plymouth to display the upstart service messages on TTY1 in a system where 'details' is the only plugin script for plymouth?
[14:32] <mangoix> sote: wtf do you want? stfu and leave it i said.
[14:32] <vulte> On installing AMD proprietary driver, "One or more tools required for installation cannot be found on the system. Install the required tools before installing the fglrx driver." what are the tools i need to install first?
[14:32] <sote> mangoix grow up you child
[14:32] <nuxninja> which driver you downloaded vulte
[14:33] <vulte> AMD Catalyst 13.1 Proprietary Linux x86_64 Display Driver
[14:33] <vulte> i'm on 64-bit 12.10
[14:33] <nuxninja> correct it should work
[14:34] <vulte> it says it's missing "one or more tools" required for install
[14:34] <nuxninja> which card
[14:34] <vulte> radeon hd 6850
[14:34] <sote> come here for help but get abused ... thanks
[14:34] <zimbo> has anyone used trisquel, on a desktop and server in a small office? how does it compare with ubuntu?
[14:34] <zimbo> in general
[14:34] <TomyLobo> anyway, back to my original question: why does that !av factoid (unqualifiedly) say that linux doesn't need an antivirus, when a keylogger installed on a sudo-root-capable account can compromise your entire system?
[14:34] <ThinkT510> zimbo: best asked in ##linux
[14:34] <nuxninja> vulte check askubuntu.com and similar sites it should be pretty straightforward
[14:34] <zimbo>  ThinkT510 ok
[14:35] <DWSR> TomyLobo: Because a keylogger isn't a virus.
[14:35] <mangoix> sote: leave it now child. this is off topic
[14:35] <DWSR> TomyLobo: a keylogger can be installed by a virus.
[14:35] <vulte> nuxninja: will do. appreciate the assistance. :)
[14:35] <sote> people come here for help, not your abuse
[14:35] <mangoix> DWSR: OFF TOPIC; LEAVE IT!
[14:35] <TomyLobo> 1. so an antivirus would detect the virus
[14:35] <DWSR> Anyone here use GlusterFS? I'm wondering if it's possible to initialize a storage brick with data already existing
[14:35] <nuxninja> any time bro.....i nearly got banned once
[14:35] <DJones> sote: mangoix Leave it, drop the discussion
[14:35] <DWSR> mangoix: Lose the caps please and thank you.
[14:35] <TomyLobo> 2. an antivirus might also detect the keylogger itself
[14:36] <mangoix> DWSR: No. Leave it!
[14:36] <mangoix> DJones: ok this guys go on and on..
[14:36] <zimbo> wow the ubuntu community isn't that friendly, i guess shuttleworth and his lemmings are just about making money hey?
[14:36] <DJones> TomyLobo: You'd still need to input a password before the keylogger could run, if you're not sure what you're installing, you probably shouldn't install it anyway
[14:36] <sgo11> anyone use easytag? I just use easytag to remove the picture from mp3 file. but the file size is unchanged. how come?
[14:37] <mangoix> DJones +
[14:37] <TomyLobo> DJones you mean it's impossible to log your own keys with user rights?
[14:37] <DWSR> sgo11: Because of mp3 headers and padding.
[14:37] <zimbo> i could write a key logger in c in about an hour lol not that difficult
[14:37] <DWSR> sgo11: The picture was removed, but the space has been left so that the file does not need to be completely rewritten if you add a new picture of similar, or smaller size.
[14:37] <mangoix> DWSR: A keylogger may be a virus as well. thats the fact! so leave it now..
[14:37] <sote> topic is dropped, moving on too see what others need help with!
[14:38] <TomyLobo> zimbo could it log user A's keys if run as user A?
[14:38] <DWSR> sgo11: There should be a way to remove padding from files in easytag.
[14:38] <zimbo> what?
[14:38] <DJones> TomyLobo: You could do that in your own user environment, but without it being installed with admin rights, what could it do with it
[14:38] <zimbo> of course
[14:38] <sgo11> DWSR, I want to delete that space too. how can I do that? The picture is mis-added with very big resolution. let me check easytag settings...
[14:38] <sote> Djones, Thankyou, have a nice night/day
[14:39] <TomyLobo> DJones "own user environment"? like a box in a box? :)
[14:39] <TomyLobo> and i don't know what something can and can't do with admin rights, with respect to logging keys. that's why i'm asking :)
[14:40] <zimbo> it would log your passwords for example
[14:40] <zimbo> like you bank info
[14:40] <zimbo> etc
[14:40] <TomyLobo> or your own password which you enter into sudo
[14:40] <DJones> TomyLobo: Its probably a better conversation to have in #ubuntu-offtopic, thats more for general discussion like that
[14:40] <Jpmh> I have a bootable usb stick from which I have made many systems - usually I get a choice of installing alongside the existing Windoze - on HP Compaq machines I do not get this - is this becuase they have setup too few partitions
[14:41] <TomyLobo> DJones we're at a conclusion anyway, i think. will you follow? since you seem to have the power to change that factoid :)
[14:41] <ThinkT510> TomyLobo: in the vast majority of cases malware is nothing to worry about on linux unless you frequently download things from sources you don't trust
[14:41] <DJones> TomyLobo: Are you ok with a pm?
[14:41] <TomyLobo> sure
[14:42] <TomyLobo> not by everyone. go away mangoix
[14:42] <sote> is there a room admin that I can complain about threats to ?
[14:42] <DWSR> sote: DJones is one.
[14:42] <DWSR> sote: Hence why he kicked you.
[14:42] <sote> Thanks
[14:43] <ThinkT510> sote: theres #ubuntu-ops
[14:43] <sote> better to work with a situation then to turn a blind eye
[14:43] <sote> thankyou
[14:47] <sote> still learning how to use this... thanks everyone for their info and tips
[14:48] <nearst> hi ppl
[14:48] <ThinkT510> sote: irc or ubuntu?
[14:48] <sote> the IRC part
[14:48] <ThinkT510> sote: ah, more help can be found in #freenode too
[14:49] <sote> should I make a complain about the threats I got from another user or should I just forget about it
[14:49] <sote> easier to forget
[14:49] <sgo11> DWSR, I really don't find a way to remove the padding space of id3 tag from mp3. do you know how to do that? or which key words should I google for? thanks.
[14:49] <ThinkT510> sote: better to forget
[14:49] <DWSR> sgo11: Not really sure.
[14:50] <Jpmh> sote: if the threats are real you should pass them immediately to your local Police Department
[14:50] <DWSR> Jpmh: Probably just an ITG.
[14:50] <sgo11> DWSR, I did search remove padding, but no luck. let me do more search then. thanks. :)
[14:50] <sote> reading does my head in so I come here for assistance
[14:50] <Jpmh> DWSR: what is am ITG?
[14:50] <DWSR> Internet Tough Guy
[14:51] <sote> learn something new every day
[14:51] <Jpmh> DWSR: I would agree - however a few reports to PDs tend to build up and get them under control
[14:51] <nearst> sgo11, try sudo apt-get install easytag
[14:51] <sgo11> nearst, the problem is caused by using easytag. :)
[14:51] <DWSR> Jpmh: With the only problem being the fact that you have no idea who they are in real life.
[14:51] <DWSR> Jpmh: Still, this is OT.
[14:52] <nearst> sgo11, thereis a lot of id3 editor in foss :)
[14:52] <LiquidDemocracy> I want to play a Java game in Firefox. What package do I have to install?
[14:52] <Jpmh> DWSR: I assure you that the logs are sufficient that if the PD follows up it can all be traced
[14:52] <ThinkT510> LiquidDemocracy: firefox has likely disabled your java plugin
[14:52] <DWSR> LiquidDemocracy: It should be installed by default, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins should help you
[14:52] <sgo11> nearst, yeah, but I can not find one which can remove the picture and its space. easytag removes the picture, but the size of mp3 is unchanged. it keeps the picture space there.
[14:52] <DWSR> LiquidDemocracy: Also, that.
[14:53] <LiquidDemocracy> thx
[14:53] <sgtkilljoy> LiquidDemocracy: openjdk
[14:53] <nearst> sgo11, ouch. im not really sure bout that. just last time im use that one im guess
[14:54] <alfreddo> p7spsixavb7my26g
[14:55] <sote> the police would laugh at me and say what is said on the internet is heresay
[14:55] <sote> anyways, materr soon to be forgotten about
[14:55] <DWSR> sote: I would recommend just ignoring it if it's just a one-off.
[14:56] <sote> it was mangoix that made the threat
[14:56] <vulte> sote: if it's an actual literal threat i.e. "i'm going to come and hurt you" the police would take it seriously in my experience
[14:57] <sote> so I can block people on this thing aye
[14:57] <sote> cool
[14:57] <ThinkT510> sote: sure, /ignore nickthatyouwanttoingnore
[14:57] <DJones> sote: If you're concerned about it, join #freenode and report it there, thats the network admin channel, if not, just ignore it, you can always put the person on ignore
[14:57] <sote> Thanks for your time and effort
[14:58] <vulte> man, installing these AMD proprietary drivers is a lot of work..lol
[14:58] <kevinmthomas> morning everyone
[14:58] <ThinkT510> vulte: i stick to the open source ones
[14:58] <vulte> hello there
[14:58] <bilel> hi, I've installed ubuntu aside from windows, grub2 is installed too, but it keeps booting windows each time, I don't see the grub screen, what can I do?
[14:58] <bhavesh> Can I upgrade my Linux Kernel from live USB?
[14:58] <samba35> how to get list of all dpkg--recconfigure(able) package
[14:58] <faLUCE> hi, I have a vga monitor connected to my notebook (therefore, I use two monitors). However, I can't set on the vga monitor a resolution > 1024x768 ... what can I do?
[14:59] <vulte> ThinkT510: I was using open-source but was experiencing issues with random pixelation
[14:59] <sote> windows update is boring to watch, loves watching sudo updates in the terminal ... :)
[14:59] <OerHeks> bilel,  hold left shift @ boot to enter grub menu
[14:59] <kevinmthomas> i wanted to thank you all for helping yesterday im still having issues with getting a mail client to work with my mail on my server
[14:59] <ThinkT510> vulte: are you running any 3d apps/games?
[14:59] <faLUCE> ubuntu 12.10
[15:00] <kevinmthomas> its 12.04 i think 32 bit
[15:00] <vulte> ThinkT510: I have multi-monitors and needed to use the "put" function from Compiz to allow me to use flash full-screen on monitor 2. Compiz could be the issue, unsure
[15:00] <ThinkT510> vulte: oh, flash and 2 monitors, out of my league sorry
[15:00] <bilel> OerHeks: do you mean "left shift" + "@" when the pc boots?
[15:00] <faLUCE> hi, I have a vga monitor connected to my notebook (therefore, I use two monitors). However, I can't set on the vga monitor a resolution > 1024x768 ... what can I do? I did not have this problem on ubuntu 11.10 for example
[15:01] <vulte> ThinkT510: no problem, thanks for your time :)
[15:01] <ThinkT510> bilel: there are 2 shift keys on your keyboard, hold the one to your left while it boots
[15:02] <bhavesh> can I upgrade the kernel of already installed Ubuntu from a live USB?
[15:02] <vulte> i always forget the name of 12.10..last I used ubuntu seriously was hoary :P oh well
[15:02] <ThinkT510> bhavesh: not sure why you would want to. having network problems?
[15:03] <DWSR> bhavesh: Yes, you can upgrade the kernel from an installed Ubuntu.
[15:03] <ThinkT510> !12.10 | vulte
[15:03] <bhavesh> ThinkT510: well its showing kernel panic
[15:03] <DWSR> ThinkT510: Even if you are, you could download the packages to your installed distro, then trigger the upgrade.
[15:03] <vulte> thinkt510: Yeah I looked it up :P thanks
[15:03] <ThinkT510> DWSR: hence why i asked about his network
[15:04] <bilel> ThinkT510: ok, but why isn't it showing up by default? I don't really like the fact that I have to always keep in mind "press shift" as soon as I boot my computer otherwise it'll default to windows. I remember with ubuntu 11.04 it was showing up by default, but apparently not with 11.10
[15:04] <bhavesh> DWSR: well I cannot boot into the installed ubuntu, so I was trying to use the live usb for upgrading the kernel
[15:04] <root_____> how to give ipaddress+portnumber a hostname e.g: 192.168.1.2:8000 localhost.com any solution?
[15:04] <DWSR> bhavesh: Yeah, I was following.
[15:04] <DWSR> !hosts | root_____
[15:04] <ThinkT510> bilel: it should show by default
[15:04] <ThinkT510> !grub | bilel
[15:04] <bhavesh> DWSR: So how am I supposed to use these commands for upgrading the kernel from live USB? http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/09/how-to-install-linux-kernel-354-on.html
[15:05] <Ail> how to give ipaddress+portnumber a hostname e.g: 192.168.1.2:8000 localhost.com any solution?
[15:05] <DWSR> Ail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3407
[15:05] <DWSR> That will show you how.
[15:05] <bilel> ThinkT510: thank you, I'll try this out.
[15:06] <k1l_> !rootirc > Ail
[15:06] <bhavesh> DWSR: if I follow those commands, then it will upgrade the kernel of ubuntu installed on usb, right?
[15:07] <Ail> DWSR: i already tried it in hosts file but only ipaddress work fine but when i give portnumber withipaddress thn its not working
[15:08] <DWSR> Ail: You can't assign portnumbers.
[15:08] <DWSR> Ail: You'll have to do localhost.com:port
[15:08] <Ail> DWSR: any other way
[15:08] <Ail> ?
[15:08] <DWSR> no.
[15:08] <DWSR> That's how DNS works.
[15:08] <vulte> Installing AMD Catalyst, appears in terminal: "Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed." will that be an issue to the driver working?
[15:08] <DWSR> vulte: Yes.
[15:09] <DWSR> Means the kernel module isn't installed
[15:09] <vulte> what is the package name so i can install it?
[15:09] <vulte> i'm on quantal if it matters
[15:09] <sgo11> DWSR, I solved the problem by installing libid3-tools and then run "id3convert -s file.mp3".
[15:09] <DWSR> sgo11: Awesome, good to know.
[15:10] <k1l_> vulte: can you nopaste the whole installing error message with named kernel etc.?
[15:10] <sgo11> DWSR, :) thanks for your help.
[15:10] <vulte> k1l_: Yes, one moment while I do that
[15:11] <vulte> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572945/
[15:11] <yeats> vulte: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`' (note the backquotes around 'uname -r')
[15:11] <k1l_> vulte: is there a reaason you dont use the driver ubuntu ships?
[15:12] <vulte> k1l_: Having issues with text pixelation and distortion with stock open-source driver. Maybe related to Compiz from what I've learned
[15:12] <DWSR> k1l_: Because amdcccle provides better performance in some cases.
[15:12] <DWSR> s/amdcccle/radeon/
[15:12] <disharmonic> Hi
[15:12] <DWSR> Whatever they call the proprietary blob.
[15:13] <yeats> fglrx
[15:13] <disharmonic> Quick question, Can i symlink to a NTFS partition?
[15:13] <k1l_> it just i saw some of those missing kernel header failures lately.
[15:13] <k1l_> all with the .deb paackage
[15:13] <DWSR> disharmonic: Yes, if you wan tto divide by 0.
[15:13] <DWSR> disharmonic: What exactly are you trying to do?
[15:14] <yeats> k1l_: I've seen the same problem with virtualbox (from the vbox repo) - looks like 'linux-headers' is not listed as a dependency (though it actually is)
[15:14] <vulte> k1l_ + yeats: it now worked correctly with those kernel headers. thank you to both!
[15:14] <vulte> wish me luck, I'm going to reboot..
[15:14] <k1l_> vulte:
[15:14] <DWSR> good luck.
[15:14] <k1l_> is there a reason you are not running the newest kernel build?
[15:15] <k1l_> -22 seems the latest build in the 12,10 repo
[15:15] <disharmonic> DWSR, i'm a bit short on space on my EXT4 drive as i never allocated space for games. With the Steam beta i'm runnin out of space fast. I was thinking to symlink steams games folder to my NTFS partition
[15:15] <DWSR> disharmonic: I would definitely NOT do that.
[15:15] <DWSR> But it's certainly possible.
[15:15] <vulte> k1l_: didn't realize that. I think I'll get the driver stable on what I have right now then update and fix it
[15:15] <yeats> disharmonic: yeah, you don't want to do that
[15:16] <disharmonic> yeats k11 there's a metapackage that gets the latest headers and source.
[15:16] <DWSR> disharmonic: As long as you have a method of reading and writing to NTFS partitions (ntfs-3g, or built in ntfs support in the kernel), you can symlink to whatever.
[15:16] <yeats> disharmonic: yep
[15:16] <k1l_> vulte: yes, just keep in mind to reinstall the driver after a kernel upgrade (if dkms doesnt do the job)
[15:16] <DWSR> k1l_: dkms should do it, from my personal experience.
[15:18] <Bruse_> Hi guys. I created a Ubuntu 12.10 version that I am trying to install on my Macbook Pro 9.2 (13" Mid-2012). But when I try to boot from the CD all I get is a blinking cursor. Anyone know how to fix this?
[15:18] <disharmonic> DWSR, on 12.10 DKMS strangely does not depend on the kernel headers. I run into that issue when i installed virtualbox(it wasn't a dep for that either)
[15:18] <SourceSlayer> Hey
[15:18] <DWSR> disharmonic: Ah, I'm on 12.04
[15:18] <SourceSlayer> They "type your command" thing on the unity launcher is stuck...
[15:19] <vulte> much to my surprise, it booted
[15:19] <vulte> but I have a new problem :(
[15:19] <Ray> try to use the LTS ver. like 12.04 for more further assistance bro~
[15:19] <disharmonic> DWSR, yeats so symlinking to NTFS could potentially lead to filesystem issues?
[15:19] <SourceSlayer> It's covering a part of the screen but I can still click on things under it, is there any way to get rid of it without logging out?
[15:19] <DWSR> disharmonic: No.
[15:19] <DWSR> disharmonic: It could potentially lead to you corrupting your Steam install.
[15:20] <DWSR> disharmonic: ntfs rw support is pretty stable these days.
[15:20] <Ray> SOurceSlayer : installing ubuntu on macbook?
[15:20] <yeats> disharmonic: no chance of increasing your (non-NTFS) disk space?
[15:20] <SourceSlayer> Ray: I've already installed it.
[15:20] <Dougie187> Does anyone know if there's a way to get "shopt -s direxpand" to work in 12.04?
[15:20] <SourceSlayer> Why? I guess this is a common problem?
[15:20] <vulte> Just rebooted successfully after installing AMD proprietary driver. I'm turning off mirroring displays so I can use my dual monitors, and it says "The selected configuration for displays could not be applied: required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[15:21] <disharmonic> yeats, it could be done. But i have no way atm to back up all my data. So it would be risky
[15:21] <DWSR> vulte: Sounds like x didn't detect both panels properly.
[15:21] <sote> Ubuntu 10.10 worked fine on the Mac Mini
[15:22] <vulte> DWSR: it detected fine on the old open-source driver. how can i make it re-detect?
[15:23] <DWSR> vulte: Stop X, then 'sudo X -configure'
[15:23] <DWSR> vulte: That *should* work.
[15:23] <vulte> okay. how do i stop and start x before and after doing that then? sorry, new-ish to ubuntu
[15:23] <DWSR> vulte: First thing, pop open a terminal and check the output of 'xrandr -q'
[15:24] <DWSR> vulte: That will ask X what displays it thinks that you have.
[15:24] <Ray> SourceSlayer : Stuck..? how stuck is it?
[15:24] <sote> watch youtube videos on how to fix or customise your install
[15:25] <vulte> DWSR: there are DFPs 1-7. 6 and 7 have resolutions up to and including 1920x1080@60Hz
[15:25] <DWSR> vulte: So it knows that you have 2 1080p panels.
[15:25] <DWSR> hrm.
[15:25] <disharmonic> vulte,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Oneiric_Installation_Guide#Dual.2FMulti_Monitors
[15:25] <DWSR> disharmonic: Ah, thanks. Was looking for that.
[15:26] <disharmonic> DWSR, as i'm using fglrx i always have the link handy. The wiki is quite good these days
[15:27] <vulte> disharmonic, DWSR: ran the commands listed, do i need to restart X or something? it still isn't working yet
[15:27] <disharmonic> vulte, for configuration changes to take effect you usually have to restart x yes
[15:28] <vulte> ok. what is the procedure to restart X then
[15:28] <k1l_> vulte: just log out
[15:28] <vulte> ah. thanks
[15:28] <DWSR> vulte: Yes, usually. Restarting or logging out.
[15:28] <k1l_> vulte: that will restart the xsession
[15:28] <k1l_> you could restart the xserver with other comands but that will result in a logout ,too
[15:29] <dcope> Anyone know what driver support is like for this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132020
[15:29] <ubuntu> hi
[15:29] <Guest50980> hi everybody
[15:29] <Dougie187> Anyone know of a ppa with newer versions of bash for 12.04?
[15:29] <Ray> dcope : what ubuntu ver. do you use?
[15:30] <disharmonic> dcope, afaik CMedia chips are well supported, but don't quote me on that
[15:30] <DWSR> How can I uninstall the default office suite (OpenOffice I believe?) from a term?
[15:30] <yeats> !hardware | dcope
[15:31] <disharmonic> vulte, you probably need to enable Big Desktop in amdccle now
[15:31] <vulte> disharmonic: Yeah, was just going to say the same error exists. I'll try and figure that out
[15:33] <DWSR> Is there a way to remove all packages a metapackage depends on?
[15:33] <dcope> yeats: thanks
[15:33] <disharmonic> DWSR apt-get remove libreoffice* should do the trick
[15:33] <dcope> Ray: i'm using 12.04
[15:33] <DWSR> disharmonic: Thanks. Keep forgettign I can use wildcards.
[15:34] <dcope> Hm, only mentions 7.1 on the link yeats got the bot to write.  I guess it'll work.
[15:34] <disharmonic> DWSR,  also removing the core package should force all its depending packages to uninstall as well
[15:34] <Ray> dcope : i guess it works
[15:34] <vulte> woohoo! multi monitors are go. Thank you so much!
[15:35] <Ray> dcope : check with the jockey
[15:35] <disharmonic> vulte, np :)
[15:35] <Dougie187> Is the only way to get bash 4.2.29 rather than 4.2.24 in 12.04 to build it yourself?
[15:36] <DWSR> disharmonic: Can I remove X?
[15:36] <DWSR> disharmonic: By just doing apt-get remove x*?
[15:37] <disharmonic> DWSR, that would remove all packages starting with x. Not recommended
[15:37] <DWSR> lol
[15:37] <disharmonic> although apt-get probable wouldn't be able to do it anyway
[15:37] <DWSR> X server is provided by xorg, correct?
[15:38] <vulte> More issues, hope you guys don't mind..I installed compiz packages and rebooted and that's when the display issues started. those are fixed with new AMD driver, but keycommands set in CompizConfig are not functioning. I'm not entirely sure compiz is actually on
[15:38] <sujon> when I compile into Codeblocks...it shows (Permission denied)
[15:38] <disharmonic> yeah. removing xserver-common should frce the removal
[15:38] <kevinmthomas> Ongoing question, I have mail working properly on my ubuntu server as I can send and receive mail however I cant access a client as it wont recognize my smtp and pop3 or imap server
[15:40] <vulte> possibly important side-note, I am on GNOME 4 and not Unity
[15:40] <bekks> vulte: Gnome 3. :)
[15:40] <vulte> 3. right
[15:40] <vulte> :P
[15:41] <sujon> why it shows permission denied  while compiling in Codeblocks ? Whts wrong ?
[15:41] <DWSR> sujon: You don't have permission, clearly.
[15:41] <sote> I don't like unity much either ... logged in using gnome but about to log out and into gnome classic so I can attempt to fix my clock again
 (I am Beginner)  Btw I am running as admin on PC
[15:42] <disharmonic> vulte, Gnome 3 doesn't use compiz. It uses Mutter
[15:42] <vulte> disharmonic: can I force use of compiz over mutter in that case?
[15:43] <cableordsl> hello guys i need your advice, it seems like a simple question, but im about to change from a dsl to cable provider, and i wonder whether the ip change is as easy peasy with JDownloader afterwards, goolging the problem leaves me bewildered....
[15:43] <DarkSnow> il y a quelqu'un ?
[15:43] <disharmonic> vulte, not sure. Why would you even want to do that. Mutter is faster than compiz
[15:43] <DWSR> !fr | DarkSnow
[15:44] <disharmonic> sujon, by admin you mean as root?
[15:44] <k1> hallo.. Im new  at linux  N i installed ubuntu 12.4 lts
[15:44] <vulte> disharmonic: you're right. let me put it this way. To be able to place full-screen flash on monitor 2, i need a key combination that will move the current window to the next monitor. Compiz is the way I thought to do that. is it possible, then, do do something like that with mutter?
[15:44] <DWSR> disharmonic: Can I force a removal of everything depended on by ubuntu-desktop?
[15:45] <k1> I need  help with sound N video card driver
[15:45] <disharmonic> DWSR, hmm i don't know of a way to remove packages listed in a meta-package
[15:45] <vulte> disharmonic appears in high demand right now..I don't mind waiting my turn :)
[15:45] <DWSR> disharmonic: Or, can I copy my entire ubuntu install to another drive on the same system?
[15:46] <sujon> disharmonic : I don't know clear. how to overcome this problem ?
[15:46] <disharmonic> vulte, i havent used Gnome3 much.
[15:46] <cableordsl> hello guys i need your advice, it seems like a simple question, but im about to change from a dsl to cable provider, and i wonder whether the ip change is as easy peasy with JDownloader afterwards, goolging the problem leaves me bewildered....
[15:46] <vulte> hmm...okay. thanks
[15:47] <DWSR> cableordsl: It should be easy.
[15:47] <sote> Back soon, watching Compiz Fusion Tutorial - Howto Increase Desktop Functionality with Ubuntu  on Youtube
[15:47] <k1> plz... help
[15:47] <DWSR> !ask | k1
[15:48] <cableordsl> DWSR, googling seems like no use, people state different things, most say its not easy or doesnt work. how can i make sure before i make the contract with the cable provider?
[15:48] <sote> cya everyone o/ have a nice day/night, might be back later o/
[15:48] <vulte> later sote
[15:48] <disharmonic> vulte, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122748/enabling-native-shortcuts-on-gnome-3 maybe that helps
[15:49] <vulte> disharmonic: hey, that looks like it might work. thanks a lot!
[15:49] <disharmonic> DWSR, you can clone your Ubuntu install using clonezilla or a similar tool
[15:50] <k1> I  installed linux ubuntu 12.4 lts.. I need help wirh install sound N video card Driver.. This 1st time im using linux.. plz.. help
[15:50] <disharmonic> sujon, have tried to compile starting the cmd with sudo?
[15:50] <cableordsl> hello guys i need your advice, it seems like a simple question, but im about to change from a dsl to cable provider, and i wonder whether the ip change is as easy peasy with JDownloader afterwards, goolging the problem leaves me bewildered...googling seems like no use, people state different things, most say its not easy or doesnt work. how can i make sure before i make the contract with the cable provider?
[15:50] <vulte> Hmm..There are GNOME 3 shortcuts for moving windows to different workspaces. for this purpose, is monitor 2 a seperate workspace?
[15:51] <Lemur> is there anyone here that uses tor that can help me with a problem i'm having trying to set up my ubuntu in virtualbox
[15:51] <sote> K1 maybe this is what you are after, use in terminal : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:52] <lantizia> Whats the best/most-appropriate away for me on 12.04 to use the kernel from 13.04 ?
[15:52] <disharmonic> vulte, well you can always test it ;)
[15:52] <ThinkT510> lantizia: you don't
[15:52] <sujon> disharmonic : I just have installed codeblocks from Sotware center and started to compile . but It shows me a message and says(Permission Denied)  .I used to compile with codeblocks in windows and Running Ubuntu some days ago. So don;t know yet it's full features
[15:52] <vulte> yeah, it didn't work. looking into it online
[15:53] <disharmonic> lantizia, there's a ppa that has all the current kernels iirc. It's not recommended for daily use though
[15:53] <sote> Linux is fun, You'll become addicted
[15:54] <k1> Im installing now
[15:54] <Uldics> Anyone can help in changing the order of modules loaded?
[15:54] <Uldics> [   17.913537] gamecon: no such parport 0
[15:54] <Uldics> [   17.964447] parport_pc 00:09: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
[15:54] <Uldics> [   17.964506] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
[15:54] <FloodBot1> Uldics: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:54] <disharmonic> sujon, you don't have access to a certain folder most likely. You need to change the folders permission or ownership
[15:55] <k1> What should I do Now ??
[15:55] <sote> read forums, I know it does your head in but still... learn from trial and error
[15:56] <sote> try your media player now
[15:56] <Lemur> clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/viewtopic.php?f=20&=3564@start=100     (tor link) i was following this tutorial and i hit a snag setting up my ssh tunnels, can someone check it out and maybe help me?
[15:56] <rawplayer> hi, how can i remove the top bar in unity-greeter which you see in lightdm
[15:58] <cableordsl>  hello guys i need your advice, it seems like a simple question, but im about to change from a dsl to cable provider, and i wonder whether the ip change is as easy peasy with JDownloader afterwards, goolging the problem leaves me bewildered...googling seems like no use, people state different things, most say its not easy or doesnt work. how can i make sure before i make the contract with the cable provider?
[15:58] <oal> When I press the down arrow in my terminal, the input is moved down one line. When I press the up arrow, nothing happens. I want to see the last command I ran. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[15:58] <disharmonic> If you want to learn some basic cmd line and understand Linux/Unix better i recommend reading this as well http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html
[15:58] <bekks> cableordsl: How JDownloader related to any IP changes?
[15:59] <vulte> disharmonic: I got it working. i had to set custom commands with a command-line tool called "wmctrl". hooray!
[15:59] <Lemur> how to post a link on here?
[15:59] <cableordsl> bekks, i can change ip automatically with JD. and dsl
[15:59] <k1> For Sound.. Front left is working but Front Right is not working
[15:59] <bekks> cableordsl: For evading IP bans on downloads?
[15:59] <disharmonic> vulte,  great. I need to give Gnome3 a chance one of these days. It actually seems quite useable
[16:00] <sote> thanks for the link disharmonic
[16:00] <Uldics> Anyone can help in changing the order of modules loaded?
[16:00] <cableordsl> exactly, bekks, thats what im worrying about
[16:00] <vulte> disharmonic: yeah. Moving from Windows 8 it is a breeze. There are little nitpicks I have with it, but so far I really like it
[16:00] <vulte> I'
[16:00] <vulte> sorry
[16:01] <pybokeh> im new to irc, how do i enter a new line into my chat?  i tried ctrl+enter or alt+enter, but no go
[16:01] <Lemur> how do you post a link on here?
[16:01] <vulte> I'm trying to move to primarily using Ubuntu and keeping windows just for games and stuff..Gotta get all this silly stuff like multiple monitors sorted first. so far it feels great though
[16:02] <Lemur> can anyone tell me how to post links on here?
[16:02] <vulte> Unfortunately as a CS major I need to use Visual Studio and compile apps for Windows, so I have to do that there.. :(
[16:02] <Troy^> what is good virtual pc software to run ubuntu under windows 7?
[16:02] <zykotick9> pybokeh: don't.
[16:02] <vulte> Troy^: Oracle VirtualBox
[16:02] <Lemur> @troy lookup virtualbox
[16:02] <cableordsl> hello guys i need your advice, it seems like a simple question, but im about to change from a dsl to cable provider, and i wonder whether the ip change is as easy peasy with JDownloader afterwards, goolging the problem leaves me bewildered...googling seems like no use, people state different things, most say its not easy or doesnt work. how can i make sure before i make the contract with the cable provider?
[16:02] <pybokeh> +1 for virtualbox
[16:02] <Lemur> what vulte said
[16:02] <zykotick9> -1 for oracle
[16:03] <pybokeh> haha +1 for -1 for oracle
[16:03] <disharmonic> cableordsl, you should probably take that question to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:03] <vulte> from my experience with networking, what cableordsl is saying shouldn't be a problem at all
[16:04] <OerHeks> cableordsl, we don't know if your next provider support ip change like that, contact them i guess
[16:04] <Lemur> could someone please tell me how to post a link on here? i cant describe my problem without showing the tutorial i tried to follow
[16:04] <pybokeh> Lemur: does copy/paste work?
[16:04] <Lemur> ummm not exactly
[16:04] <Lemur> i'm in virtualbox
[16:04] <cableordsl> vulte, DerHeks i have no fritz box, only the modem, that consider to order
[16:04] <Lemur> and i dont have the shared clipboard on
[16:04] <d0lphin_> Hello
[16:05] <vulte> cableordsl, are you by any chance in europe?
[16:05] <pybokeh> igore, just a test
[16:05] <pybokeh> test
[16:05] <pybokeh> tes
[16:05] <d0lphin_> I'm sorry about the question but..., i... install libdvdcss and nav dns libdvd and totem... and... when i play one dvd it dont give me the subtitles "allready select the option to load subtitles in totem"
[16:05] <cableordsl> yes, vulte
[16:06] <vulte> I've never heard of FritzBox outside of europe :P
[16:06] <ThinkT510> !test | pybokeh
[16:06] <vulte> But with the modem you have, it seems like it should be fine. YMMV
[16:06] <cableordsl> vulte, yeah seems like a german name^^
[16:06] <Lemur> lemme see if i can figure out how to turn the shared clipboard on
[16:07] <vulte> cableordsl: It's actually just an internet nickname, I came up with it randomly. Interesting that it sounds german though since I am german by blood
[16:07] <Lemur> http://clsvtzwzdgzkjda7.onion/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3564&start=100
[16:07] <Lemur> got it
[16:07] <Lemur> theres the tutorial i tried to follow
[16:07] <Lemur> the snag i hit is down almost to the end
[16:07] <vulte> uhoh, a .onion. hopefully somebody's on tor
[16:07] <Lemur> with setting up ssh tunnels
[16:07] <Lemur> yep
[16:08] <Lemur> <3 my tor
[16:08] <d0lphin_> any idea why totem is not play dvd subtitles?
[16:08] <FloodBot1> Lemur: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <k1l_> Lemur: that page is not viewable for ppl not on tor
[16:08] <cableordsl> vulte, please insert my name otherwise i oversee what u write, by german, i meant FRITZ
[16:08] <Lemur> i know that
[16:08] <sote> sorry Lemur Firefox can't find the server at
[16:08] <Lemur> i need someone familiar with tor to help me anyways
[16:08] <OerHeks> d0lphin_, make sure the subtitle filename is equal to the movie filename
[16:08] <vulte> cableordsl: ah, okay. and sorry about that
[16:08] <k1l_> Lemur: so that limits the users who could help to a minimum. good luck with that
[16:08] <Lemur> well not really i guess...  lemme see if i can find it on  the real internets
[16:09] <disharmonic> d0lphin_, you can also try vlc instead
[16:09] <pushcx> I'm browsing some afp shares in Nautilus, works great. Where are they in the filesystem? I'd like to open a shell there and use some command line tools.
[16:09] <vulte> There are onion viewers available to the public web from what I remember
[16:09] <Lemur> reading the comments on it its supposedly been posted around alot
[16:09] <Lemur> i can probably find it
[16:09] <Megabyte> Hey guys
[16:09] <sote> vlc works great for slow motion but I can't get any sound from it so I use Xine
[16:09] <zykotick9> pushcx: check ~/.gvfs
[16:10] <kostkon> sote, is xine still around?
[16:10] <d0lphin_> OerHeks it is one dvd... ; disharmonic no... i don`t try whith vlc only whith totem... but if i remember totem allways wrk fine but it looks it is not working the subtitles now :|
[16:10] <sote> must be, it looks great too
[16:10] <pushcx> zykotick9: empty
[16:10] <cableordsl> vulte, can you help me with my problem, it seems that i need a reconnection script for JDownloader, dunno if it exists, gooogling, i am a noob, says, i need to change the mac address in order to receive a new ip
[16:10] <Megabyte> I have noticed neither my mouse nor my tablet (Wacom Bamboo) get turned on by default when the system boots. What should I do?
[16:10] <zykotick9> pushcx: don't know then.  good luck.
[16:10] <migo> thinstation who know ?
[16:10] <pybokeh> what is "flood"?
[16:11] <kostkon> sote, huh, thought was dead long ago. at least, gnome got rid of it in their media player
[16:11] <vulte> cableordsl: I'm not personally familiar with JDownloader
[16:11] <pybokeh> in the geek world, what is meant by "flood"
[16:11] <kostkon> aka totem
[16:11] <Megabyte> Hey guys?
[16:11] <sote> flood is posting too much in here at once
[16:11] <kostkon> !info xine
[16:11] <kostkon> :/
[16:11] <zykotick9> pybokeh: using more then 1 line in irc ;)  usually flood is 3-4 lines.
[16:11] <DarkSnow> hi !
[16:11] <cableordsl> vulte, ok thanks anyway, do you know where i can get help=?
[16:11] <vulte> lemur: I looked it up and if you replace .onion with .tor2web.org, it will work on the public web
[16:11] <k1l_> pybokeh: how does that relate to a ubuntu support issue? we have the #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[16:11] <pybokeh> oh ok thanks!
[16:12] <pybokeh> i saw someone mention flood here that is why i ask
[16:12] <sote> oh a chit chat ch.. where?
[16:12] <vulte> cableordsl: http://support.jdownloader.org/index.php?/Tickets/Submit
[16:13] <disharmonic> kostkon, xine is better than GStreamer imo.
[16:13] <pybokeh> since i didn't know what flood meant, how am i suppose to know asking about it is not allowed here? ;-)
[16:13] <sote> yeah I got excited and installed a heap of media players, making my own version of Ultimate Edition lol
[16:13] <vulte> pybokeh: you're fine, you didn't know :) happens to all of us
[16:14] <urlwolf> installed on a dell 1720 with broadcom, so no wireless. ethernet works. When installing updates, ethernet dies. Now I
[16:14] <kostkon> disharmonic, i don't agree :P but let's end it here otherwise they are gonna say we are chit chatting :P
[16:14] <cableordsl> vulte, thanks
[16:14] <urlwolf> Now I'm pretty much locked out of my own computer
[16:14] <urlwolf> can't install anything
[16:14] <zykotick9> !flood | pybokeh
[16:14] <urlwolf> any workarounds?
[16:14] <cableordsl> disharmonic, no ones answering in ubuntu-offtopic
[16:15] <disharmonic> cableordsl, m8 the only ones that can answer your question with certainty are the providers
[16:15] <m8> disharmonic, :O
[16:15] <akim> hello
[16:16] <kostkon> m8, lol
[16:16] <m8> kostkon, i'm the only can answer :D
[16:16] <disharmonic> m8, lol. You're just asking for it with that nick :P
[16:16] <kostkon> m8, apparently :P
[16:16] <cableordsl> disharmonic, so do you think calling them and ask whether they support ip change helps?
[16:17] <disharmonic> i don't see what else you can do.
[16:17] <m8> kostkon, :E
[16:17] <k1l_> guys, please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support. thank you
[16:17] <Uldics> Anyone can help in changing the order of modules loaded? http://pastebin.com/CS5ErLWF
[16:17] <kostkon> m8, :P
[16:17] <vulte> without knowing for sure what cableordsl means by ip change, whether he means a static IP or what, his ISP may be able to help
[16:17] <deed02392> is ubuntu supposed to come with runit as standard? or init?
[16:17] <kostkon> upstart | deed02392
[16:17] <kostkon> damn
[16:18] <kostkon> !upstart | deed02392
[16:18] <Lipizinho> sfsfs
[16:18] <cableordsl> vulte, i think, i will ahve a "quasistable ip" that changes only every two weeks or for providerwise
[16:18] <deed02392> kostkon, i want to know because a package i'm installing wants to use runit by default
[16:19] <o0m> I need and experienced Ubuntu/Linux guru to PM for problem solving. I would appreciate it. Thanks!
[16:19] <deed02392> i don't have the skill to replace that, i just want to know which ubuntu supports by default
[16:19] <vulte> cableordsl: you mean "questionable"? are you doing questionable things online? :P
[16:19] <ThinkT510> o0m: why not in channel?
[16:19] <lasers> o0m: Ask here. Otherwise, you're out of luck. (Most likely!)
[16:19] <wildNBK> which package do  I grab to allow the use of the 'old style' gnome interface?
[16:20] <zykotick9> !notunity > wildNBK
[16:20] <o0m> sorry thought it was to convoluted or something to annoy in chat =P
[16:20] <cableordsl> vulte, "quasi-stable"!
[16:20] <disharmonic> He probably wants to refresh his IP so he can d/l from free locker services faster
[16:20] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: there is gnome fallback mode but gnome2 is dead, live with it
[16:20] <kostkon> deed02392, hmm no idea. if you could paste here the exact message using a pastebin) you are getting maybe someone will be able to help you
[16:20] <cableordsl> vulte, no questionable things i guess
[16:20] <o0m> im having a bot pf trouble... my upgrade isnt working, dont have any repo list... I cant seem to upgrade atall
[16:21] <o0m> *bit of
[16:21] <vulte> cableordsl: in my experience, if you aren't set up with a static IP from your provider, simply power-cycling your modem will give you a new IP
[16:21] <disharmonic> ThinkT510, wildNBK  i find Cinnamon provides a relativly similar experience
[16:21] <vulte> cableordsl: if you aren't sure, ask the cable provider in question
[16:21] <ThinkT510> disharmonic: not supported here
[16:21] <o0m> anyone able to run me through how to maybe get all those back so im able to?
[16:22] <cableordsl> vulte, i think its clear that i will have a static ip, that i m pretty sure of
[16:22] <wildNBK> ThinkT510, ok, the worst thing I find is the 'being sold stuff' in the home menu, can I at least get rid of that?
[16:22] <disharmonic> ThinkT510, obviously. I don't see why it shouldn't be mentioned though
[16:22] <ThinkT510> wildNBK: of course, check privacy settings
[16:22] <k1l_> cableordsl: that is a topic for the offtopic channel. (like mentioned before)
[16:22] <vulte> cableordsl: Ask the cable provider if they can set you up with a dynamic then
[16:22] <cableordsl> vulte, do you think i will have a chance with no programming knowledge to change my ip then (with JD) in this case?
[16:22] <disharmonic> cableordsl, static IP usually means it doesnt change. at all
[16:23] <wildNBK> lol, that easy... thanks!
[16:23] <ThinkT510> disharmonic: feel free to mention it as long as you state it isn't supported on ubuntu (same with mate)
[16:23] <sote> unplug the modem cable for 5 mins will reset your IP?
[16:24] <vulte> cableordsl: without knowing the specifics of the provider, your setup, etc, I cannot say for certain. If you ask the cable provider prior to setup, I'm sure they can answer your questions
[16:24] <cableordsl> vulte, kll, disharmonic, yepp, thats what i think sukks with a stable ip. do you think i can still change it with jdownloader?
[16:24] <cableordsl> vulte, kll, disharmonic, i dunno the modem name yet
[16:24] <Megabyte> Hello
[16:24] <Megabyte> Can you guys help me with my mouse?
[16:24] <vulte> cableordsl: The modem wouldn't matter so much as how the ISP handles IP handouts
[16:25] <vulte> cableordsl: again, ask them
[16:25] <cableordsl> vulte, ok thaks i will
[16:25] <k1l_> cableordsl: last warning now. this is offtopic here as its not a ubuntu issue. talk to jdonwloader or your ISP
[16:25] <lasers> Megabyte: It ran away? :(
[16:25] <vulte> k1l_: I think we got it solved now. no need to worry mate
[16:26] <Megabyte> lasers, For it to work, I need to plug and unplug it.
[16:26] <defer_> Is it possible to create udev event that runs lomoco -8 to get right mouse resolution?
[16:26] <Megabyte> lasers, What do I do for it to work by default?
[16:26] <defer_> When i plug in my usb mouse mx510
[16:26] <k1l_> vulte: its a pitty for the real ubuntu issues that get faded in that offtopic :/
[16:27] <lasers> Megabyte: Try different USB port?
[16:27] <cableordsl> kll, no one ansered on offftopic, anyway, thanks for your help, vulte, kll, disharmonic
[16:27] <lasers> Megabyte: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55820/on-startup-usb-mouse-needs-re-plugging
[16:27] <vulte> k1l_: agreed. If needs more help and I'm still around, I'll talk to him in offtopic myself
[16:28] <lasers> Megabyte: (Btw, I have that same issue on my XBMC HTPC for keyboard. I never got around to it. So.. Thank you in advance!)
[16:29] <Megabyte> lasers, Let me try this then...
[16:29] <lasers> s/keyboard/remote control/
[16:29] <lasers> Megabyte: Okay. :)
[16:29] <sote> My wireless mouse and keyboard fails to respond on start up also but I just unplug and replug it in, yes the usb port is powered but still sometimes it fails to respond on start up.. no big deal
[16:30] <vulte> sote: is the problem with the usb receiver ubuntu-specific or happens no matter what OS?
[16:30] <sote> think it's just my computer but it don't bother me
[16:30] <vulte> sote: alright :)
[16:31] <Megabyte> brb
[16:35] <jrtappers> Hello, how do I add another card to Xorg without losing my current settings?
[16:36] <jrtappers> And can someone step my through it please
[16:37] <lasers> Add a card and play it out.
[16:37] <jrtappers> lasers, the card is installed, its not working though
[16:37] <koumi> Hello
[16:37] <jrtappers> It shows the alt+ctrl+f* terminals and the shutdown animation
[16:37] <lasers> jrtappers: $ lscpi | grep -i vga
[16:38] <koumi> how to find dhcp server ip address in ubuntu
[16:38] <koumi> ?/
[16:38] <koumi> ?
[16:38] <jrtappers> lasers, it doesn't come up in the grep, but the integrated is detected
[16:38] <jrtappers> il pastebin it
[16:39] <koumi> how to find dhcp server ip address in ubuntu????????????
[16:39] <jrtappers> koumi, are you on the network already
[16:40] <jrtappers> lasers, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1573208/
[16:40] <koumi> ok bun in my lessons in univercity i need to find the ip of the dhcp server
[16:40] <jrtappers> lasers, The integrated is not used by ubuntu 00:02:0
[16:41] <kostkon> !homework | koumi
[16:41] <kostkon> damn
[16:41] <jrtappers> !homework | jrtappers
[16:42] <jrtappers> koumi, Is it for homework or is it to use the network?
[16:42] <lasers> jrtappers: Ehm. Have you tried tweaking around with /etc/X11/xorg.conf? (I had no experiences with ATI, only NVIDIA)
[16:42] <jrtappers> lasers, Its the integrated thats not working
[16:42] <damselfly9> koumi; it says here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-find-out-dhcp-server-ip-address/
[16:42] <Megabyte> No luck
[16:43] <koumi> for homework
[16:43] <jrtappers> lasers, I have 2 running off the 7770 (B & C) and 1 off the internal (A)
[16:43] <koumi> for homework
[16:43] <jrtappers> lasers, A only shows the alt+ctrl+f* terminals and the shutdown animation
[16:44] <damselfly9> koumi; that link I just posted explains that you can find that info in your dhclient.leases file
[16:45] <vulte> is there a screensaver settings on gnome3? i can't find it
[16:45] <lasers> koumi: Seek assistance from your professors, professor assistants, comouter labs, etc.
[16:45] <koumi> hey how to find dhcp server ip address in ubuntu???????????? i need it for my homework
[16:45] <kostkon> vulte, there are none
[16:45] <Guest69285> hi..
[16:45] <damselfly9> koumi; I just gave you the answer
[16:45] <k1l_> koumi: did you read what was posted to you?
[16:45] <Guest69285> anyone there?
[16:45] <lasers> jrtappers: The monitors works -- but not the boot animination?
[16:46] <k1l_> !ask | Guest69285
[16:46] <kostkon> vulte, you can install xscreensaver if you want fancy screensavers, gnome3 only gives you a blank screen for a screensaver
[16:46] <vulte> kostkon: That blank screen was that I was thinking. I want the screens to stay on fulltime
[16:46] <jrtappers> lasers, The monitor works (Tested in 7), it shows a black screen apart from showing the alt+ctrl+f* termianls and the shutdown animation
[16:46] <koumi> can  you resend me the link please/
[16:47] <kostkon> vulte, you mean on displaying stuff?
[16:47] <k1l_> vulte: take a look into the energiy settings
[16:47] <koumi> damselfly9 can  you resend me the link please?
[16:47] <lasers> jrtappers: So you're asking how to start a 2nd xsession?
[16:47] <damselfly9> koumi; since I did your homework for you, you could at least scroll your screen back
[16:47] <k1l_> koumi: scroll back and read it again
[16:48] <jrtappers> lasers, that might work well, any solution really
[16:48] <lasers> jrtappers: Do you have two working monitors and one blank screen?
[16:48] <vulte> k1l_, kostkon: I want the screens to stay on regardless of inactivity. under power settings everything is set to don't suspend and never, but the screens still go blank till I move my mouse
[16:48] <jrtappers> lasers, Yes
[16:49] <hamstermar> hi evry body | i have make bashscript evrything works Good but I have bug i Want tell to The script to do this: {check for evry url in a file using curl and then i there is the specefice word on the page put it in an other file if not don't put it in that file }
[16:49] <lasers> jrtappers: Hmm. Try $ DISPLAY=:0.1 exec COMMAND  -- COMMAND being your DE or WM.
[16:49] <koumi> but the is not a link sent by you  damselfly9
[16:49] <lasers> jrtappers: Gnome? KDE?
[16:50] <ThinkT510> hamstermar: try asking in #bash
[16:50] <jrtappers> lasers, Gnome 3
[16:50] <XReaper> Uldics: ohithere
[16:50] <subdesign> hello, any idea why my wifi stops working after I install linux-backports package?
[16:50] <kostkon> vulte, hmm, yeah, i think there is an option to dim the monitor, try in the monitor settings. i'm on 10.04 right now and can't tell you where that option is exactly
[16:50] <vulte> kostkon: okay. thanks
[16:50] <hamstermar> ThinkT510 where
[16:50] <jrtappers> lasers, can that be a normal terminal or does it need alt+ctrl+f1
[16:50] <hamstermar> #bash
[16:50] <ThinkT510> hamstermar: /join #bash
[16:50] <subdesign> and removing this package, wifi gone, and wired lan works again
[16:50] <hamstermar> ok thanks
[16:50] <Uldics> XReaper: can you help me with changing the order of modules loaded?
[16:51] <AkTiV> da wa eba w maikawa
[16:51] <AkTiV> cirei dolni
[16:51] <lasers> jrtappers: Make a simple script? Do it in normal terminal. $ DISPLAY=:0.1 exec gnome-session (me think)  -- Try it first.
[16:51] <damselfly9> koumi; I tried. since this is your homework, try a yahoo search for {linux "show dhcp server address"}. that is what I searched for you get you the link I posted
[16:52] <kostkon> AkTiV, whois say you are in bulgaria so..
[16:52] <kostkon> !bg | AkTiV
[16:52] <cableordsl> vulte, the isp says theyre giving out dynamic ips. good news
[16:52] <kostkon> says*
[16:52] <jrtappers> lasers, that does nothing and closes the termianl
[16:52] <hamstermar> ThinkT510,hhhh no one is in there
[16:52] <hamstermar> ThinkT510,hhhh no one is in ther
[16:52] <AkTiV> kostkon ty
[16:52] <kostkon> AkTiV, np
[16:52] <vulte> cableordsl: excellent! good luck
[16:53] <ThinkT510> hamstermar: 762 people are there
[16:53] <cableordsl> vulte, so there is no problem reconnecting manually, what do ypou think?
[16:53] <lasers> jrtappers: Hold on. Testing something simple here.
[16:54] <jrtappers> lasers, Is there something meant to be in front of display? An $ or something
[16:54] <Guest69285> can anyone tell me how to get password of facebook account
[16:55] <iceroot> !ot | Guest69285
[16:55] <disharmonic> Anyone know where the Software Center installs bought 3d games? /usr/bin?
[16:55] <lasers> jrtappers: DISPLAY=:0.1 exec gnome-session    <-- Not working?
[16:55] <jrtappers> lasers, nope, but it closes the terminal
[16:55] <kostkon> jrtappers, i think only when you want to get its value. when setting it you omit the $
[16:55] <iceroot> disharmonic: dpkg -S packagename
[16:56] <kovu> does anyone know how to install a bj=1-sx printer on ubuntu
[16:56] <iceroot> disharmonic: that will show you all path which are used
[16:56] <lasers> jrtappers: Can you see X cursor on blank screen when you're hovering over there?
[16:56] <jrtappers> nope
[16:56] <donsd> I installed 12.10 and lost all my crontab settings. Are my old settings stored somewhere?
[16:56] <Megabyte> I found out the solution
[16:56] <lasers> Megabyte: What is it? :o
[16:56] <kovu> does anyone know how to install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu
[16:56] <Megabyte> lasers, it's simpler than what anyone may think...
[16:57] <jrtappers> lasers, I forgot the exec and it got this
[16:57] <disharmonic> iceroot, right. Thx
[16:57] <koumi> ok thank you damselfly9 i found it
[16:57] <lasers> jrtappers: Ah, you may have to set up xorg first. I usually use nvidia-xconfig / nvidia-settings (and that's NVIDIA stuff, not ATI)
[16:57] <Megabyte> lasers, Turn your computer off physically and wait 5 minutes
[16:57] <Megabyte> as in, plugging it off
[16:57] <jrtappers> lasers, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1573266/
[16:57] <hplc> anyone that can verify that any of the xubuntu lubuntu etc etc works on HP dv6 laptop?
[16:57] <jrtappers> *, how do I list displays
[16:58] <kovu> does anyone know how to install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu
[16:58] <Megabyte> lasers, If you think I'm trolling, take a look: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1652883
[16:58] <lasers> jrtappers: Damn you for disobeying the exact command. :p
[16:58] <OerHeks> kovu, canon bj10sx is not in openprinting database http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Canon/ you might want to try the 10e driver
[16:58] <kostkon> !hardware | hplc
[16:58] <jrtappers> lasers, that just closed my terminal, so I tried changing it a bit
[16:58] <kovu> how do i install it please
[16:58] <jrtappers> lasers, Is there a way to list all displays?
[16:59] <kostkon> hplc, you could check there first and then if you are still unsure come back here again
[16:59] <lasers> jrtappers: xrandr -q, maybe?
[16:59] <lasers> jrtappers: On their respectful X11.
[17:00] <jrtappers> lasers, that looks useful, il pastebin it
[17:00] <hplc> kostkon, got it, thanks
[17:00] <kostkon> hplc, np]
[17:00] <kostkon> np*
[17:00] <kovu> the ubuntu picks up the parellel to usb converter but not the printer
[17:00] <damselfly9> kovu; this, might help- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1428662
[17:00] <lasers> Megabyte: Sounds like meh-meh hardwares?
[17:00] <Megabyte> lasers, Probably... but if you had trouble with your keyboard, this should work
[17:01] <lasers> Megabyte: remote control. I'll try it tonight. :P
[17:01] <jrtappers> lasers, I >'d the output to a file
[17:02] <jrtappers> lasers, does the send file option on Xchat work here?
[17:03] <Guruuu> (you'll have to enable the multiverse repo to get ttf-mscorefonts-installer)  ,,, how to enable it?
[17:03] <jrtappers> lasers, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1573283/
[17:03] <kostkon> Guruuu, in the software centre, select edit → software sources
[17:04] <Guruuu> via shell please?
[17:04] <talos05> ciao
[17:04] <kostkon> Guruuu, it's a menu option
[17:04] <talos05> !lista
[17:04] <kostkon> Guruuu, right
[17:04] <kostkon> hmm
[17:04] <Guruuu> i'm using putty
[17:04] <lasers> jrtappers: You have dozen DisplayPorts?
[17:04] <Guruuu> ssh access to the machnie
[17:04] <jrtappers> lasers, no, 2
[17:05] <jrtappers> lasers, 1 VGA on mobo (A)
[17:05] <hplc> kostkon, that page were extremely outdated and said project canceled in 2005 :s
[17:05] <lasers> jrtappers: What is the problem? I see two connected monitors.
[17:05] <hplc> kostkon, scrap that link
[17:05] <awestroke> I have chown'd and chgrp'd /var/www to www-data, and added www-data to my users groups, and chmod -R g+wrx /var/www , but I still can't place files there
[17:05] <jrtappers> lasers, I have 3 monitors
[17:05] <kostkon> Guruuu, nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment symbol # from the beginning of the line that contains the url of the multiverse
[17:05] <lasers> jrtappers: On this X11 server. You want the result of 3rd monitor? Do xrandr -q on that moniotr (2nd X11 Server)
[17:05] <kostkon> repo*
[17:06] <kostkon> hplc, ok
[17:06] <Guruuu> thank you kostkon
[17:06] <kostkon> Guruuu, then save the file, close it, and then give:  sudo apt-get update
[17:06] <jrtappers> lasers, says cannot open display
[17:06] <jrtappers> lasers, when I am on ctrl+alt+f1 terminal on A, B and C turn off
[17:07] <jrtappers> lasers, when I leave with alt+ctrl+f1, the  terminal stays on A
[17:07] <jrtappers> A is the problem screen
[17:07] <lasers> jrtappers: Don't use TTY.
[17:07] <kostkon> url → uri*
[17:08] <jrtappers> lasers, what do I do then? Im bad at these configs
[17:08] <AntDam> hey all, i'm new to ubuntu and xchat...trying to learn and coming over from windows
[17:08] <lasers> jrtappers: Use regular terminal. (or make a simple script). That way, you can launch a 2nd X11 with one command.
[17:08] <psauxw> i got a wierd question ... I'm using a laptop right now and i tried pretty much all of the distros so I was wondering how come my laptop fan works well only with ubuntu?
[17:08] <jrtappers> lasers, I can't do anything but TTY on screen A
[17:09] <kovu> when i type into the command console lpinfo -v it detects unknown usb printer
[17:10] <lasers> jrtappers: When you start up computer, which monitors came on?
[17:10] <kovu> this is what comes up ---> direct usb://Unknown/Printer
[17:10] <k1l_> psauxw: maybe because of the kernel settings and driver settings ubuntu uses.
[17:10] <psauxw> k1l_, yea that's what i think too ... but which settings ! :D
[17:10] <jrtappers> lasers, B and C have picture
[17:11] <jrtappers> lasers, A is on but black
[17:11] <jrtappers> lasers, I have an idea! How do I specify device with startx!
[17:12] <damselfly9> psauxw; you mean the fan never turns on at all with other distros?
[17:12] <lasers> jrtappers: Those are your new default monitors, I guess? I don't know if I can change default monitors in BIOS. I don't think so. My computer is really old. ;3
[17:12] <defer_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/247937/how-to-create-udev-event-that-runs-lomoco-8-for-mx510-usb-mouse
[17:13] <psauxw> damselfly9, nah i mean the fan turns SO MUCH on the other distros but with ubuntu it works without noise and without overheat
[17:13] <jrtappers> lasers, how do I select device when I run startx
[17:13] <lasers> jrtappers: When I start up, two monitors come on. I manually start 3rd monitor with hulu script. Now I think about it. I could start all three, but meh.
[17:13] <kovu> this is what comes up ---> direct usb://Unknown/Printer
[17:14] <kovu> when i type into the command console lpinfo -v it detects unknown usb printer
[17:14] <lasers> jrtappers: man startx -- Good luck. :)
[17:15] <jrtappers> lasers, thanks, at the very least I have 3 new ideas! Sorry to have such a hard to describe problem
[17:15] <damselfly9> kovu; that forum thread mentioned that it started working after trying to print to it anyways. what happens then?
[17:15] <lasers> jrtappers: No problem. I should get fourth monitor. Just cause... :P
[17:17] <AntDam> anybody know where to get a list of videocards supported by ubuntu\linux?
[17:19] <sote> XChat-Gnome just crashed... sighs oh well...
[17:19] <lasers> jrtappers: There are some limitations.. For instance, you can't drag windows through all monitors. Only whatever X11 it's on.
[17:19] <jrtappers> How do I set which pci device startx or gnome-session uses?
[17:20] <jrtappers> lasers, I have a idea, but I need to find someone who knows about startx
[17:20] <lasers> jrtappers: lspci ?
[17:20] <jrtappers> lasers, I know that the integrated is 00:02.0
[17:21] <jrtappers> lasers, How do I start a new X session on a certain PCI address?
[17:21] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; at startup X detects what it can match to a driver. It goes by pci ids not slot numbers
[17:22] <jrtappers> damselfly9, I have the pci id, I want to start a second X session
[17:22] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; the only way you could do that is within a virtual machine
[17:23] <lasers> jrtappers: No idea!
[17:23] <jrtappers> damselfly9, no other way?
[17:24] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; the first copy of X will be taking control of your mouse and keyboard
[17:24] <adamk>  jrtappers: Why not create an xorg.conf file that specifies the drivers for all your GPU devices in one spot?  Then running X will run it on both devices.
[17:24] <jrtappers> adamk, That would be ideal
[17:25] <kovu> when i try to print nothing happens
[17:26] <jrtappers> adamk, problem is that I'm using the AMD beta drivers, and that was hard for me to work out
[17:26] <jrtappers> adamk, Im not very good at complex config files
[17:26] <damselfly9> kovu; I wish I could be of moe help, but I don't have hardware like yours to experiment with
[17:26] <adamk> You are going to have a very very difficult time getting Xorg to use the proprietary drivers on one GPU and open source drivers with any other GPU.
[17:26] <adamk> It may not even be possible, honestly.
[17:27] <jaco> hi
[17:27] <jrtappers> adamk, can you think of how to try?
[17:27] <jaco> i need help
[17:28] <jaco> with hdmi in ubuntu 12
[17:28] <jaco> anybody can help me?
[17:28] <vulte> i'm on gnome3, I simply cannot find sleep/standby/suspend anywhere..is it hidden?
[17:28] <jrtappers> vulte, press the power button briefly
[17:28] <jrtappers> vulte, it will pop up
[17:28] <adamk> jrtappers: I wouldn't try.  If I wanted to use different drivers on different GPUs, I'd stick with all open source drivers.  That's your best chance of getting it to work.
[17:29] <jasunto> just curious if any has ubuntu 12.10 64bit desktop running on a PC with two nvidia cards in SLI?
[17:29] <vulte> jrtappers: Cancel, Restart, and Power Off are the options
[17:29] <jaco> anybody can help me with hdmi in ubuntu 12.04
[17:30] <jrtappers> adamk, the open source drivers can't run the games when I tried, AMD beta was my last hope, it kind of works
[17:30] <adamk> Then I wish you luck.
[17:30] <vulte> !ask | jaco
[17:30] <kovu> damit i missed the messege how do i scroll up to see it
[17:31] <jrtappers> adamk, Ok, workaround, can I keep TTY going whilst im on ctrl+alt+f7?
[17:31] <jasunto_> Yup
[17:31] <jrtappers> adamk, Have it as a permenant terminal window on that screen
[17:32] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; so this is all about running games? Why not have two xorg.conf files, one which specifies the opensource drivers and the other which specifies the proprietary drivers? you could switch between xorg.conf files based on whether you want games or general usage
[17:32] <adamk> damselfly9: The problem with that is that the proprietary drivers use a different libglx...
[17:32] <zykotick9> adamk: regarding your GPU open driver comment.  i've read you "can't" simultaniously run nvidia/ati propritary drivers...
[17:32] <jrtappers> damselfly9, Sounds like a good idea, but how?
[17:32] <adamk> damselfly9: And a different kernel module.
[17:33] <adamk> damselfly9: So it would require rebooting between switching drivers.
[17:33] <adamk> zykotick9: That is correct.
[17:33] <jrtappers> OK, so can I keep TTY going?
[17:33] <henkka> Hello, could someone help me a bit. i have external monitor connected to my laptop. but cant set its resolution. its same as laptops
[17:33] <damselfly9> rebooting between games vs general usage wouldn't be too terrible
[17:33] <vulte> henkka: are you mirroring the laptop's screen on the monitor or extending it?
[17:34] <jrtappers> adamk, damselfly9, zykotick9  Ok, workaround, can I keep TTY going whilst im on ctrl+alt+f7?
[17:34] <henkka> vulte, oh that helped.. thanks :D
[17:34] <vulte> henkka: np :)
[17:34] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; you can set ubuntu to boot to text instead of to X, then you can switch xorg.conf files without rebooting
[17:35] <jrtappers> Ok, so how would I do all of this?
[17:35] <henkka> or didnt.. now i have apps on my laptop and empty desktop on monitor :D
[17:35] <damselfly9> with a lot of effort. but to run games is worth it to the true gamer :)
[17:35] <jaco> I have Macbook Pro with always ubuntu, of course and both the sound and video go jumping when I connect hdmi to TV. Anybody knows what is happening?. Thank you in advance :-)
[17:36] <henkka> and mouse only moves on laptop monitor
[17:36] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; first step, setup for boot to text
[17:37] <jrtappers> damselfly9, how long to set it up, roughly?
[17:37] <damselfly9> less time than a night of halo, if everything goes well
[17:37] <jrtappers> Ok
[17:38] <jrtappers> damselfly9, Ok, should I backup my current config? (And how?)
[17:39] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; backing up is always good
[17:39] <jrtappers> damselfly9, can we try using propietery and open source, just to see, with backup there is nothing lost if it goes wrong
[17:41] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; so for steps- (1) set for boot to text (2) make sure both drivers are installed (3) generate 2 xorg.conf files, one for each driver
[17:41] <mainklain> sorry mates but i have i serious problem and i don't know how to fix it
[17:41] <evalic> anyone here by anychance that can help me figure out how to remove a file i can not find.  Trying to either delete tiny figue 4.0 or somehow upgrade it
[17:41] <AntDam> how would i remove eubuntu from ubuntu, via the terminal?
[17:42] <henkka> hmm btw, anyone have idea can you use laptop hdds in desktop machines? :D
[17:42] <greenbarel> sudo apt-get remove eubuntu  maybe  try it
[17:42] <bekks> henkka: Sure.
[17:42] <wector> No
[17:42] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; for the exact details you might need to ask better experts than me :)
[17:42] <mainklain> Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_partner_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[17:42] <jaco> I have Macbook Pro with always ubuntu, of course and both the sound and video go jumping when I connect hdmi to TV. Anybody knows what is happening?. Thank you in advance :-)
[17:43] <mainklain> what you seduced to do?
[17:43] <kovu> please can someone tell me how to innstall the driver for my bj-10sx printer
[17:43] <evalic> thank you that was what i wanted to do as well.  just  mine tf
[17:43] <keelG> Kovu - have you tried using a generic PCL or PS driver?
[17:43] <henkka> my desktop comp keeps freezing / crashing, could try if its hdd problem as i have extra laptop one. already tried windows / linux, 3 diffrent gpu, diffrent memorys.. 2 diffrent psu. all i can think its mobo problem or hdd
[17:43] <greenbarel> @henkka yes you can, if you have 2.5 external hard drive you can diskonect it and connest that from your laptop
[17:44] <bekks> henkka: Then check the hdd status.
[17:44] <kovu> no
[17:44] <kovu> what are those
[17:44] <henkka> with ubuntu it usually either hard crashed at startup. or freeze when doing something
[17:44] <kovu> i want to try to install a ppd driver
[17:45] <kovu> but dont know how to
[17:45] <mainklain> thx anyway
[17:45] <henkka> really old dekstop tho.. so could be mobo problem
[17:45] <jrtappers> henkka, run SMART
[17:46] <henkka> hmm havent tried that yet
[17:46] <henkka> what does that do? :p
[17:46] <jrtappers> henkka, will tell you if the HDD is in good shape
[17:46] <jrtappers> go to disks
[17:46] <damselfly9> jrtrappers; I need to be offline for an hour for hardware maintenance
[17:46] <jaco> anybody can hear me?. am I visible?
[17:46] <bekks> !smart | henkka
[17:47] <kovu> yes jaco we see you
[17:47] <jrtappers> !smart | jrtappers
[17:47] <jaco> oh, thanks
[17:47] <bekks> henkka: The package you need is called smartctl
[17:47] <jrtappers> henkka, No
[17:47] <jaco> im newbie
[17:47] <jrtappers> bekks, you can do it with preinstalled utils
[17:47] <kovu> same here
[17:47] <bekks> jrtappers: Tell me how that utility is named when it is not smartctl.
[17:47] <henkka> already dried some surface scan program, but it didnt found anything
[17:48] <bekks> jrtappers: There are no other tools which are able to test the SMART capabilities.
[17:48] <henkka> have to try that out when i have patience.. been pulling my hair off for about 2 days with that desktop comp
[17:48] <jrtappers> bekks, what about disks?  click the settings on the top right in it
[17:49] <bekks> jrtappers: Which just reads the smart info but is NOT able to run SMART tests.
[17:49] <bekks> jrtappers: At least without an installed smartctl
[17:49] <jaco> so, nobody knows how help me
[17:49] <jrtappers> bekks, if its a dependency of a preinstalled package then it should be already installed
[17:50] <bekks> jrtappers: Which technically doesnt change what I said.
[17:51] <kovu> how do i install my ppd driver for my printer
[17:51] <jrtappers> bekks, we are areguing over two ways of doing the same thing, so we are both right, argument over, abck to useful things
[17:52] <RollinV2> is there a way to reboot the desktop environment without relogging? thanks.
[17:52] <jrib> RollinV2: not really.  Why do you want to?
[17:52] <wector> I can buy
[17:53] <bekks> RollinV2: No, thats impossible, technically.
[17:53] <jaco> RollinV2: you can push ctrl+backspace
[17:53] <jrtappers> Is there an easy way to add a device to Xorg config?
[17:53] <gherkin> hello
[17:53] <gogo4> hi
[17:53] <bekks> jaco: Please dont suggest that,since that restarts the X server and does NOT care about closing open files, etc.
[17:54] <RollinV2> jrib bekks i was curious about it. mainly for refreshing if a gui related package is updated.
[17:54] <gherkin> bekks: what do you suggest?
[17:54] <jrib> it's not even the right key sequence and it's been disabled for a while by default too :)
[17:54] <RollinV2> jaco, thanks. i will try that.
[17:54] <bekks> gherkin: I suggest saving your documents, and logging out properly :)
[17:54] <gherkin> does anyone want to hear a joke?
[17:54] <jrib> gherkin: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[17:54] <hplc> is there any generally accepted certification program for linux? or each distro went their own way?
[17:54] <bekks> RollinV2: That will kill your X-server - you have been warned.
[17:55] <gogo4> gherkin: sounds like fun
[17:55] <gherkin> jrib: it's an ubuntu related joke though
[17:55] <jrib> RollinV2: jaco's suggestion won't work.  It's not the right key sequence.  ctrl-alt-backspace did used to restart the X server (but wouldn't take care to ask you nicely about saving your work) but that's been disabled by default for a while now.  It's not what you want
[17:55] <jrib> gherkin: great, that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for!  #ubuntu is for support
[17:55] <gherkin> oh :(
[17:56] <lasers> You can't have 'fun' without #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:57] <Munchor> Install is stuck on Calcualting files to skip copying for a loong time. Any idea?
[17:57] <jrtappers> What driver for Intel Integrated Graphics? Im setting up Xorg.conf
[17:57] <RollinV2> bekks, found out too late. lol
[17:57] <jaco> oh, I really thought he would save all his work, of course
[17:58] <konraddo> hi, someone asked me for help (how to list all files in current folder which name ends on 't' and order those files by date. i guess it'll be "ls *t -lrt", but unfortunatelly currently i don't have any linux installed to test it and i cannot find my pendrive with ubuntu. can somebody tell me if this is a proper command?
[17:58] <jrib> konraddo: it's not
[17:59] <jrib> konraddo: erm, maybe it is.  I thought -r was same as -R but I'm wrong
[18:00] <jrib> konraddo: in any case, you'll still be listing the contents of directories.  It depends on what you want to do exactly
[18:00] <konraddo> you mean that it would list not only files in current folder, but also files that are in subfolders of current folder?
[18:01] <jrib> konraddo: sure.  If you have a folder named "foldert", you will get the contents of foldert as output
[18:01] <shayde> Hey guys I'm trying to partition my HD through the ubuntu installation, how would I go about doing that on 12.10?
[18:01] <shayde> I have windows 7 already installed
[18:01] <konraddo> ok, thanks
[18:02] <compdoc> shayde, their used to be an 'alternative' version of the installer for that
[18:02] <shayde> really now?
[18:03] <jrib> compdoc: the normal installer allows partitioning too, doesn't it?
[18:03] <shayde> jrib thats what I thought too...
[18:04] <shayde> jrib you select "something else" after selecting ur language
[18:04] <shayde> I'm just trying to figure out how to partition from there.
[18:05] <compdoc> shayde, I dont see the alternative for 12.10. Just 12.04. I know the Ubuntu Server d/l allows partition setup, including LVM
[18:06] <kovu> how do i make myself the root
[18:06] <compdoc> kovu, use the command sudo
[18:06] <yeats> !sudo | kovu
[18:07] <nebkat> anyone ever have tty flashing above gui?
[18:07] <nebkat> specifically the cursor
[18:07] <nebkat> when I ctrl-alt-f7 it switches the the tty, then moving around the screen slowly shows the gui again
[18:08] <nebkat> to the*
[18:08] <kovu> thx
[18:09] <vulte> anyone who speaks german can PM me? i need a quick translation that is unclear with google
[18:10] <jaco> hi, anybody has experience connecting hdmi to tv in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:10] <smw> !anyone | jaco
[18:12] <jaco> anybody to help me with the hdmi in ubuntu 12.04
[18:12] <jaco> please
[18:12] <vulte> !ask | jaco
[18:12] <jaco> anyone?
[18:13] <machicola> are there any video players for ubuntu that support .wmv
[18:13] <vulte> machicola: VLC does for sure
[18:13] <hplc> is there any certification that is more generally accepted than others? LPI?
[18:14] <machicola> ok, thanks
[18:14] <kovu> i want to add a ppd file to cups but i cant
[18:14] <kovu> it wont let me
[18:14] <kovu> its a driver file for my printer
[18:15] <yeats> kovu: why not just use the Printers dialog?
[18:15] <smw> jaco, ask you real question, tell us what you have done, what happened, and what you expected
[18:15] <vulte> how can i add a shared SMB network printer? the address of the printer would be \\vcalcium\APTN1
[18:16] <yeats> vulte: 'sudo apt-get install samba' then use the Printers dialog
[18:16] <jaco> When i connect hdmi to tv the sound and video go bad
[18:16] <vulte> yeats: thanks
[18:16] <smw> jaco, need more info than "go bad" :-)
[18:16] <kovu> i dont know what that is
[18:16] <smw> jaco, take your time, use as much detail as you can on one line
[18:16] <jaco> i mean, go jumping
[18:17] <yeats> kovu: you're on Ubuntu, right?  just click the Unity button and type "printers" and hit enter
[18:17] <jrtappers> Is there an easy way to add a device to Xorg.config? GUI or CLI?
[18:17] <kovu> my printer dont show upp
[18:17] <kovu> and its on generic printer
[18:18] <yeats> kovu: is it attached to your machine or on a network?
[18:19] <kovu> its a bj-10sx arerell printer that has a usb converter
[18:19] <kovu> parallel *
[18:20] <kovu> when i type into the command console lpinfo -v it detects unknown usb printer
[18:21] <yeats> kovu: interested - bug 492876 is about that exact model
[18:21] <vulte> yeats, I still am encountering issues adding the printer..I can't seem to navigate to a server or see its printers via samba
[18:21] <vulte> @yeats, I am on gnome 3 if it makes a difference
[18:23] <kovu> so what i am confused i looked at this link how does it help me please
[18:23] <richweskus> is there anybody out there?
[18:24] <vulte> yes
[18:26] <yeats> kovu: I was just sharing because someone else has obviously experience the same difficulties
[18:26] <speaker1234> ugh. I reinstalled windows and lost my grub boot menu.  I can't find the instructions to fix grub so I  can dual boot.  any pointers please?
[18:26] <jaco> in hdmi to tv, the sound and video go, stop, go, stop and so on, like cpu problem but it is not. Anybody know why it is happening. I have a Macbook Pro. I have iOS and Ubuntu and I always use ubuntu (is for that I am asking this question here)
[18:27] <yeats> vulte: when you click on Network Printer then Windows Printer via SAMBA are you not able to enter the address?
[18:28] <vulte> yeats: there is no Windows Printer via SAMBA option. note this is on GNOME 3 not Unity
[18:28] <brendan_> test..
[18:28] <yeats> vulte: should be the same dialog
[18:28] <yeats> vulte: system-config-printer 1.3.11
[18:29] <yeats> (on 12.10)
[18:29] <vulte> yeats: maybe I need to install that package
[18:29] <ioria> hi. i need xbel-utils package (xbel_parse, specifically) but it is available only for hardy.  does anyone know a similar program in 12.04? tx
[18:29] <bilel> Hi, I'm trying to install a new apt repository with add-apt-repository, this one (http://lgp203.free.fr/ubuntu), I run this command "sudo add-apt-repository  http://lgp203.free.fr", but it doesn't look like it's taken in account, do you know why?
[18:29] <yeats> !find xbel
[18:30] <yeats> !find xbel 12.04
[18:30] <yeats> !find xbel precise
[18:30] <yeats> (sorry for spamming)
[18:30] <Tertulero_31_oes> anyone know how i can control my music play on Xchat???
[18:31] <ioria> yeats: tx but which package i should install ?
[18:33] <Tertulero_31_oes> anyone know how i can control my music player on Xchat???
[18:33] <qw> hello all
[18:33] <jaco> hi
[18:33] <jaco> qw
[18:33] <jaco> how are you?
[18:33] <qw> help me please install wine
[18:33] <jaco> sudo aptitude install wine
[18:34] <RollinV2> also check the wine qiki for application compatibility winehq.org
[18:35] <Tertulero_31_oes> anyone know how i can control my music player on Xchat???
[18:35] <qw> more I want to run the game Spider windose in Linux
[18:36] <yeats> bilel: you wouldn't add that repo like that with add-apt-repository - you'd need to add the entries to /etc/apt/sources.list (or to a file in sources.d) - also, a caution against adding third-party repos unless you absolutely need to and know what you're getting into
[18:36] <yeats> ioria: it doesn't look like it's packaged at all for Ubuntu or Debian anymore
[18:36] <jaco> when you have already installed wine you will know how to install such a game
[18:37] <qw> game is download
[18:38] <RollinV2> qw, if wine is installed properly just click the installer for the game
[18:38] <ioria> yeats: ok. do you know, for any chances, another program that convert xbel file in html  ? i tried xsltproc it works but i'm not very good in xsl formatting
[18:39] <jrtappers> What is the easiest way to add a device to Xorg.conf?
[18:39] <yeats> ioria: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that
[18:39] <ioria> yeats: ok thanx
[18:40] <petergk> jrtappers, get a sample, the cleanest way
[18:41] <senter> hi, someone have backtrack 5?
[18:43] <yeats> !backtrack | senter
[18:43] <theseb> anyone have issues with volume being randomly MUTED often?
[18:43] <Abhay92> hi,i am new to ubuntu.can anyone tell me how to configure the source code?
[18:43] <Nasser> hi
[18:43] <Muelli> Abhay92: usually ./configure
[18:43] <theseb> Abhay92: what does that mean?
[18:43] <theseb> Abhay92: what source code?
[18:43] <bilel> yeats: I'm trying to install codeblocks to learn C, but I just found the package is available with synaptic, so I think I don't need to install this new repo, thx
[18:43] <jaco> I can't connect my ubuntu to tv via hdmi
[18:44] <yeats> bilel: yes, codeblocks is in the normal repos
[18:44] <jaco> Abhay92: you have to write "./configure" in root foler
[18:45] <jaco> but, why do you want to do that?
[18:45] <TheLordOfTime> should I be worried when apt-get upgrade says its removing all DKMS modules, and causes micro system hangs that eventually resolve themselves?  (old system that is in dire need of udpates :P)
[18:45] <TheLordOfTime> (12.04)
[18:46] <shady__> hi guys
[18:46] <shady__> can u tell wat is use of IRC?
[18:47] <Muelli> shady__: see the topic
[18:49] <olivier__> exit
[18:51] <tima_> What is a good program to put xbuntu on a flash drive from windows?
[18:51] <Abhay92> how to install vlc fron package??
[18:51] <jierro> LiLi
[18:52] <tima_> k thanks
[18:54] <Walex> TheLordOfTime: not terribly worried, it is a bit typical.
[18:55] <Walex> Abhay92: there are prebuilt packages for VLC. Just Software Center, Synaptic, Aptitude, 'apt-get' as usual.
[18:56] <Abhay92> ./configure command istn't working?
[18:57] <Walex> Abhay92: don't install from source unless you are a fairly skilled computer engineer...
[18:58] <Walex> Abhay92: anyhow IIRC the Ubuntu Wiki has a page on building from source.
[18:58] <Flannel> !checkinstall | Abhay92
[18:59] <RollinV2> tima_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:59] <tima_> .helpwhy thank you! love the amount of help
[19:00] <qw> help me please run game from wine
[19:00] <tima_> why*
[19:00] <ThinkT510> !appdb | qw
[19:00] <blbrown_win3> is there a way to see if my machine will work with compiz.  I did a opengl test and hardware acceleration is enabled at about 70fps
[19:00] <sote> try play on linix
[19:01] <ThinkT510> blbrown_win3: best way is try it and see
[19:01] <blbrown_win3> ThinkT510, is it easy to go back from
[19:02] <ThinkT510> blbrown_win3: what are you running now?
[19:02] <blbrown_win3> ThinkT510, Ubuntu 12.10
[19:02] <ThinkT510> blbrown_win3: unity uses compiz by default
[19:02] <blbrown_win3> oh
[19:03] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know how to fix firefox not loading and returning "Firefox is already running" even if there's no firefox processes running?
[19:03] <TheLordOfTime> (12.04)
[19:03] <Walex> TheLordOfTime: yes.
[19:03] <TheLordOfTime> Walex:  what's the fox?
[19:04] <jaco> TheLordOfTime: use kill
[19:04] <jaco> for really killing it
[19:04] <TheLordOfTime> jaco:  kill -9'd all of them already.
[19:04] <TheLordOfTime> and its still erroring
[19:05] <Walex> TheLordOfTime: in your profile dir, 'lock' and '.parentlock'
[19:05] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[19:06] <Walex> SnapSnap: presumably you need to find a CouchDB channel or mailing list.
[19:06] <SnapSnap> Walex, what does that mean? I'm not very familiar with how it works.
[19:07] <codepython777> on ubuntu, what is the correct place to start jobs/my programs at boot time?
[19:07] <jaco> anybody knows how connect to tv with hdmi
[19:07] <Walex> codepython777: regrettably there are too many. But look into '/etc/rc.local'
[19:07] <adamk> jaco: You plug it in and then run 'xrandr' to see if the video driver sees the device.
[19:07] <TheLordOfTime> !privmsg | jaco
[19:08] <Walex> SnapSnap: from the few details you give it looks like one of the files you are trying to backup belongs with a CouchDB database, and that probably needs a speicifc backup program
[19:09] <codepython777> Walex: no /etc/rc.local on my machine?
[19:10] <codepython777> oh there is
[19:10] <codepython777> i thought it was a dir
[19:10] <ThinkT510> !upstart | codepython777
[19:11] <alocer> Unhandled page fault on read access <-- how can i get read of this
[19:11] <ThinkT510> !away > qos|away
[19:12] <IDWMaster> Has anyone tried installing Ubuntu onto a USB flash drive before?
[19:12] <ThinkT510> !usb | IDWMaster
[19:12] <IDWMaster> I'm talking about actually installing it, not a live CD boot
[19:13] <JPeterson> what are the hotkys for ubuntu snap? (automatic window arrangement)
[19:13] <misfit> does anyone else find it concerning to connect to IRC and have it find your hostname/IP automatically?
[19:14] <ThinkT510> misfit: no
[19:14] <xangua> JPeterson: control+super
[19:14] <ThinkT510> misfit: if you want a cloak ask in #freenode
[19:14] <xangua> JPeterson: left, right, up or down :)
[19:14] <misfit> thanks ;)
[19:14] <JPeterson> thx
[19:18] <IDWMaster> Is there a way to make Ubuntu run faster when running from a USB flash drive?
[19:19] <IDWMaster> Installing software in particular is slow
[19:19] <ThinkT510> IDWMaster: not really
[19:19] <Curseorange> Could i get someone to help me with Wine here? or is there a specific channel i should join for tha?
[19:19] <IDWMaster> No clever cache optimizations or anything?
[19:19] <bekks> IDWMaster: Use a faste USB flash drive.
[19:19] <ThinkT510> !wine | Curseorange
[19:27] <JPeterson> why is the bottom bar shown?
[19:28] <codepython777> Walex: in rc.local, do i have to put a command like this --> /usr/bin/python mysrcipt.py in background -- append with "&"?
[19:28] <Walex> codepython777: depends very much on what you want to happen, often a good idea.
[19:29] <JPeterson> i dont find any information of it at https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=ubuntu 12.10 bottom bar
[19:29] <justin11> can i have created an example configuration file that we will be using for the rest of this article and Download it? yes or no?
[19:29] <JPeterson> i mean https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=ubuntu+12.10+bottom+bar
[19:29] <_helios_> JPeterson, what do you mean by bottom bar?
[19:30] <bekks> justin11: huh?
[19:30] <JPeterson> a bar thats on the bottom (of the desktop)
[19:30] <JPeterson> gray
[19:30] <_helios_> hmm what version of Ubuntu?
[19:30] <JPeterson> probably added in 12.04 or 12.10
[19:30] <_helios_> JPeterson, no it's not been added because I don't have a bottom bar.
[19:30] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: by default there is no bottom bar in unity
[19:31] <JPeterson> around 100 px high
[19:31] <JPeterson> it has a backup notification icon to the right
[19:32] <kostkon> JPeterson, there is no such thing in ubuntu since 11.04
[19:32] <_helios_> Well this is off topic but I have these two small solar panels they put out about 6volts when I wire them in series in direct sunlight just 1 volt to much to charge my ipod ;(
[19:32] <JPeterson> clicking it gives a message similar  to "do you know what backup is?"
[19:32] <justin11> i am setting up unrealircd linode
[19:33] <justin11> i am setting up unrealircd in my ubuntu
[19:34] <IDWMaster> I'm running Ubuntu on a Samsung Series 7 Slate and noticed that the touchscreen is recognized as an absolute pointing device rather than a multi-touch screen. Any ideas on how to get it to recognize it properly?
[19:34] <IDWMaster> xinput sees it as an:
[19:34] <IDWMaster> Atmel maXTouch Digitizer
[19:34] <epitamizor> hey how come Xorg is built with 2.6 kernel but the iso ships with 3.2
[19:34] <justin11> i am setting up unrealircd in my ubuntu 12.10
[19:37] <abhi92> quit
[19:37] <JPeterson> how do i move a window when the title bar has moved outside the screen
[19:38] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: alt+click
[19:38] <Plumblum> okey so this is a really fun problem, just typing shutdown closes my ssh connection but the computer refuses to poweroff but when using shutdown -h it turns off. what could that little fun problem be ?
[19:39] <bekks> Plumblum: Thats no problem but intended behaviour. :)
[19:39] <ThinkT510> Plumblum: man shutdown
[19:39] <Plumblum> o.O
[19:39] <epitamizor> just use init 0
[19:39] <Plumblum> but it refuses to let me back in :P
[19:39] <RollinV2> user permissions
[19:39] <Plumblum> so what could the purpouse be
[19:39] <bekks> epitamizor: Which is what shutdown is calling.
[19:39] <bekks> Plumblum: Take a look at the "-h" option of shutdown.
[19:40] <bekks> RollinV2: Wrong :)
[19:40] <Plumblum> i know it stands for halat/poweroff
[19:40] <Plumblum> but that is what an "ordinary" shutdown should do
[19:40] <bekks> Plumblum: Not according to the man page. :)
[19:40] <Plumblum> since i cant get back on it after shutdown i have to pull the plugg or hold the powerbutton
[19:41] <bekks> Plumblum: Because ommiting the -h option just brings a system down butr does NOT power off NOR reboots it. Thats intended behaviour.
[19:42] <Plumblum> huh
[19:42] <Plumblum> just thought it was some strange bug :P
[19:42] <damselfly9> bekks; I've always found -h will power it off if acpi is enabled
[19:42] <RollinV2> bekks, its correct for server shutdowns :-) .. but on a desktop you are right. permissions won't matter.
[19:42] <bekks> Plumblum: So if you want it to be powered off, use -h
[19:42] <Plumblum> why would i want to bring down a system ?
[19:42] <bekks> damselfly9: Thats what -h is for.
[19:42] <Plumblum> if i forget -h how do i safley turn it off
[19:42] <Plumblum> since it just sits there
[19:42] <bekks> Plumblum: Pull the plug.
[19:42] <Guest25158> hi peoples !
[19:42] <Plumblum> thats a strange behaviour xD
[19:43] <Plumblum> if you ask me atleast
[19:43] <bekks> Plumblum: Thats intended and well described in the man page.
[19:43] <user1> hi
[19:43] <epitamizor> having it off but not truely off keeps the comp warm
[19:43] <damselfly9> Plumblum; maybe have it on a powerstrip with a switch?
[19:43] <Guest25158> how OS ubuntu will good for me, than i have 2500GHz(bartron)/2Gb-ram ?
[19:44] <Plumblum> bekks, im sure it is :) but i will have to find an online option. im trying to get wol to work and its a pain testing when i have to run back and forth :P
[19:44] <Guest25158> друзья, есть тут русский кто ?
[19:44] <RollinV2> can also volt check
[19:44] <justin11> can i have created an example configuration file that we will be using for the rest of this article and Download it? yes or no?
[19:44] <bekks> Plumblum: Well, then it is a bug since the invention of UNIX.
[19:44] <bekks> justin11: What are you talking about?
[19:44] <damselfly9> Guest25158; that sounds like good enough hardware
[19:44] <bekks> !ru | Guest25158
[19:45] <RollinV2> Plumblum, if it really bothers you.. make a bash alias for shutdown to shutdown -h
[19:45] <JPeterson> alt + click does nothing
[19:45] <Guest25158> о ес
[19:45] <Plumblum> bekks, im still trying to learn :P i found an online wikki, but it dosnt state what the purpouse of just typing shutdown does
[19:45] <justin11> bekks i am setting up unrealircd in my ubuntu 12.10
[19:45] <bekks> Plumblum: Then take a look at the man page please - it is described in there.
[19:45] <JPeterson> i can only move the bottom and side borders
[19:46] <bekks> justin11: And which article are you referring to?
[19:46] <JPeterson> i can't access the top border
[19:46] <JPeterson> the window doesn't respond to snap either
[19:46] <Guest25158> какую ОС поставить на старенький компьютер ?, так парюсь с виндовс, и решил убунту установить, но не знаю, в новых версиях гном или пальцоадаптированая хрень
[19:46] <bekks> !ru > Guest25158
[19:47] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: are you trying to drag it when you alt+click the window?
[19:48] <JPeterson> yes
[19:48] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: hold down alt and click and drag it
[19:48] <JPeterson> it doesnt support that
[19:48] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: what are you using?
[19:48] <justin11> bekks http://wiki.swiftirc.net/index.php?title=Installing_and_Configuring_UnrealIRCd_on_Linux
[19:49] <JPeterson> ThinkT510: /home/user/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam
[19:49] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: i mean what desktop environment
[19:49] <JPeterson> default
[19:49] <bekks> justin11: Thats a foreign wiki entry and I dont think someone in here has an example config fitting that setup.
[19:49] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: works here, don't know what to tell you
[19:50] <deadbeef> guys, i'm afraid the insallation of a package became corrupt; is there a way to do 'sanity checks', like checking the md5 of files, for packages in ubuntu ?
[19:50] <epitamizor> hey how come Xorg is built with 2.6 kernel but the iso ships with 3.2
[19:50] <Walex> deadbeef: yes
[19:50] <bekks> epitamizor: The kernel version of the build system doesnt matter.
[19:50] <JPeterson> ThinkT510: how about the goldilocks?
[19:50] <Walex> deadbeef: but note that the MD5 list is not signed...
[19:51] <kostkon> JPeterson, goldi what?
[19:51] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: you lost me
[19:51] <JPeterson> The Story of the Three Bears
[19:51] <kostkon> JPeterson, ...
[19:51] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: how is this relevant to you being able to move windows?
[19:51] <Guest25158> join #ubuntu-ru
[19:52] <JPeterson> ThinkT510: it isn't. i didn't interpret that you asked what to tell me in connection with that
[19:52] <deadbeef> Walex: no problem, i basically had a power outage and java started crashing after that; the ram seems to be ok, so maybe it's the files
[19:52] <deadbeef> i'm installing debsums, let's see
[19:52] <damselfly9> deadbeef; are you running it from a ssd?
[19:52] <Walex> deadbeef: unlikely in the sense that once installed it is hard to get corruption...
[19:52] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: if you wanted to confuse me i think you just succeeded, i hope you figure out a solution to your issue
[19:53] <deadbeef> damselfly9: nop
[19:53] <JPeterson> ThinkT510: so you don't want to tell me anything?
[19:53] <MraAlbertina> Hi. If anyone familiar with web "Operating System"s, like EyeOS... can you please give me a suggestion of a linux based good one. I appreciate it.
[19:54] <xangua> MraAlbertina: ubuntu
[19:54] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: what do you want me to tell you? you asked how to move a window thats partially off-screen, i told you to use alt+click and drag, somehow it doesn't work for you then you mention goldilocks
[19:54] <justin11> bekks do u know irc.oftc.net /j #linode
[19:54] <bekks> justin11: No.
[19:54] <MraAlbertina> xangua: thanks but no thanks.
[19:55] <JPeterson> yes in response to "[20:49] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: works here, don't know what to tell you"
[19:55] <hhhzzzain> Jpeterson: Press Alt key then left-click on the window, it allows you to move the window up and down.
[19:56] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: sorry, slow on the jokes today
[19:56] <JPeterson> hhhzzzain: there's no such fucntion for any window
[19:56] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: if that does not work, right-click in the title bar of and choose "move"
[19:57] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: then you should be able to move the window once the "hand" icon appears.
[19:57] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: tell me if that worked?
[19:57] <sfdve1213> hay otro canal para espanol?
[19:58] <kostkon> !es | sfdve1213
[19:58] <sfdve1213> ubottu: gracias.
[20:00] <JPeterson> hhhzzzain: the windows only have a close button (rather than also minimize and restore)
[20:00] <dr_willis> Hmm... the alt-click ANYWHERE ON A Window to drag it.. was a feature of every window manager ive ever used.. actually i think its a feature of X.
[20:00] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: I entered the room a few minutes ago, what is your problem again?
[20:01] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: you're not trying to alt+click drag a window thats maximised are you?
[20:01] <JPeterson> no "minimize window" "maximize window" button on windows
[20:02] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: oh ok, I remember that you could add those and pick which buttons to show at the "window" settings area.
[20:02] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: I am not currently on ubuntu and can not direct you where you can find that settings.
[20:03] <damselfly9> JPeterson; what if you just close the window and try again?
[20:04] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: you can fix that. but if you need to immediately minimize or maximize windows, right-click on the title bar (the top part of windows) and it should show options to minimize, maximize, move, close, others ...
[20:05] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: some particular windows do not have maximize such as the settings. But you are saying all windows (file browser, internet, etc) do not have minimize and maximize buttons?
[20:05] <funkymonk> Hi I'm using 12.04.1 LTS server edition. How do I upgrade php 5.3 to 5.4
[20:06] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: are you running ubuntu in a vm?
[20:06] <JPeterson> ya
[20:06] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: haha, thats why alt isn't being picked up
[20:06] <JPeterson> well not entirely, alt + tab is registered
[20:07] <_helios_> I just got my belkin usb wifi adapter in the mail for the desktop, works great switching over to the desktop brb
[20:07] <k1l_> isnt it only 2dunity in a vm?
[20:08] <hhhzzzain> who has "unity-tweak-tool" installed on their ubuntu 12.10?
[20:08] <JPeterson> k1l_: how do i determine that?
[20:08] <henkka> Hi, could someone help. Running 12.04.1 with intel gma 4500m graphic card. tried open steam.. says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0". do i have to get some drivers or what? or doesnt ubuntu just work well with intel graphic cards..
[20:09] <jrtappers> hello, could someone help me setup a xorg.conf file
[20:09] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: http://askubuntu.com/questions/210962/window-controls-missing-cannot-maximise-or-minimize-applications
[20:09] <k1l_> JPeterson: "echo $DESKTOP_SESSION "
[20:09] <jrtappers> henkka, what driver are you using?
[20:09] <k1l_> should say ubuntu when unity3d
[20:09] <adamk> henkka: Use a service like http://pastebin.com/ to show us your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[20:10] <henkka> jrtappers, not sure if i have any atm. this hard drive was on radeon system before..
[20:10] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: this is funny, but did you try moving your mouse over the grey bar at the top?
[20:10] <henkka> adamk, ok sec
[20:10] <jrtappers> henkka, run "jockey-gtk" at terminal
[20:11] <henkka> jrtappers, (jockey-gtk:3140): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_icon_set_render_icon_pixbuf: assertion `icon_set != NULL' failed
[20:11] <jrtappers> henkka, try gksudo jocket-gtk
[20:12] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson: in unity like (mac os) the title bar action buttons are located at the top panel bar on the left hand side.
[20:12] <jrtappers> * gksudo jockey-gtk
[20:12] <henkka> yeah.. says theres no drivers
[20:13] <JPeterson> after running `metacity --replace` in a window inside x windows toggling is disbled
[20:13] <JPeterson> the windows z depth cant be altered
[20:13] <oxoocoffee> I was wondering if 12.10 supports TRIM and it it auto detect SSD?
[20:13] <jrtappers> Can lightdm be told which xorg.conf to use?
[20:13] <henkka> jrtappers, guess i should install some intel drivers.. but no idea how. :)
[20:14] <basso> you can game counter-strike 1.6 on ubuntu
[20:14] <basso> mfw
[20:14] <JPeterson> starting a console with alt + ctrl + t is allowed, but typing in the console window is not allowed
[20:14] <jrtappers> henkka, try additional drivers
[20:15] <henkka> jrtappers, yeah just dunno where to find them. cant find them from intel website atleast
[20:15] <jrtappers> type in additional drivers in the launcher
[20:16] <ThinkT510> jrtappers: jockey-gtk is the additional drivers dialog
[20:16] <jrtappers> ThinkT510, just wanted to try it in case, bugs can be weird
[20:17] <henkka> Yeah it just says that closed drivers blabla
[20:17] <henkka> theres no install button or anything
[20:17] <jrtappers> Ok, that means you will need to look on the web
[20:17] <ThinkT510> henkka: you shouldn't need to install intel graphics drivers
[20:17] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Nickelback - Savin' Me] CeBoLiNhA 2012
[20:18] <kostkon> henkka, you are already using the intel driver. ubuntu comes with it
[20:18] <adamk> henkka: Again, pastebin that log file.
[20:18] <damselfly9> jrtappers; I think X needs to use a file called "xorg.conf" if there is one. But you could have a shell script to "cp xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf" or "cp xorg.conf.2 xorg.conf"
[20:19] <ThinkT510> damselfly9: it doesn't need a xorg.conf but it will be obeyed if one is present
[20:19] <jrtappers> damselfly9, ok, is there no way to specify which file, to avoid making the pc not boot by mistake
[20:20] <RollinV2> oxoocoffee, you find any answers about the ssd/trim?
[20:20] <Guest93124> hello world.
[20:20] <jrtappers> ThinkT510, what would happen if xorg was deleted?
[20:20] <LiThiuME3> :O
[20:20] <henkka> adamk, http://pastebin.com/VjDbr6u9
[20:20] <oxoocoffee> RollinV2: I was googling around and found few. Still looking
[20:20] <damselfly9> jrtappers; that's why I was suggesting vefore that you might set it to boot to text console. that way it always boots
[20:20] <LiThiuME3> Hmmm can somebody help me I don't really know the proper term for something I want to do lol ><
[20:21] <ThinkT510> jrtappers: what exactly do you mean? if just the xorg.conf file then xorg will simply dynamically load as normal
[20:21] <adamk> henkka: You have the nvidia drivers installed, which is why the GLX module is not working.  You are attempting to use the nvidia GLX module on an intel GPU.
[20:21] <oxoocoffee> RollinV2: Looks like you can edit fstab to add extra params. But wondering if it can auto detect.
[20:21] <oxoocoffee> Also what is the best FS for SSD?
[20:21] <henkka> adamk, wondering how that happened.. any idea how to fix it?
[20:21] <ThinkT510> LiThiuME3: describe what you want to do
[20:22] <adamk> henkka: Remove the nvidia driver :-)
[20:22] <RollinV2> oxoocoffee, i couldnt find anything specific when i looked months ago. i use the ssd manager in windows dual boot to be safe.
[20:22] <damselfly9> oxoocoffee; btrfs is supposed to be good for ssd
[20:22] <henkka> adamk, bit noobish on ubuntu. could you be more spesific :P
[20:22] <RollinV2> oxoocoffee, ah.. thats a good find.
[20:22] <LiThiuME3> ThinkT510 kind of a "shortcut" to a folder in linux if you ls it would looke like that   Folder name --> destination
[20:22] <adamk> henkka: How you remove it depends on how you installed it in the first place.
[20:23] <ThinkT510> LiThiuME3: symlink
[20:23] <LiThiuME3> tyvm i'll google that ^^
[20:24] <henkka> adamk, prolly tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates at some point :D
[20:24] <LiThiuME3> ThinkT510 so I need to creat a dir mkdir MyDirName then ln -s /MyDirName /The/Destination
[20:25] <ThinkT510> LiThiuME3: sorry, i've not used symlinks
[20:25] <LiThiuME3> np ^^
[20:25] <LiThiuME3> thansk for the command tho
[20:25] <LiThiuME3> ill check it out
[20:25] <LiThiuME3> and test :P
[20:26] <oxoocoffee> RollinV2: check my PM
[20:26] <henkka> adamk, prolly tried sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates at some point :D
[20:26] <henkka> oops
[20:26] <adamk> henkka: Check the software center to see if the nvidia driver is installed from there.
[20:27] <henkka> adamk, oh yes it is
[20:27] <JPeterson> k1l_: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION return ""
[20:28] <k1l_> JPeterson: which ubuntu was it?
[20:28] <RollinV2> oxoocoffee, thanks!
[20:28] <oxoocoffee> RollinV2: I m also reading on which FS is best for SSD. Still not sure.
[20:28] <JPeterson> k1l_: 14.4
[20:28] <wupeng> +ubuntu
[20:29] <k1l_> JPeterson: ?
[20:30] <ThinkT510> JPeterson: 14.04 doesn't exist yet
[20:30] <relisher> btrfs gave me the best speed on my SSD, but then I ran into problems since I ran out of inodes
[20:31] <ThinkT510> relisher: btrfs is not yet production ready
[20:34] <JPeterson> move is super + button1
[20:34] <JPeterson> someone said alt + button1
[20:35] <ryan1975> I am trying to troubleshoot a touchscreen device with Ubuntu 12.10.
[20:36] <ryan1975> The device is recognized using lsusb as a Quanta Computer Optical Touch Screen.
[20:36] <henkka> ok thanks everyone, that fixed the problem :D
[20:37] <k1l_> ryan1975: which hardware is that?
[20:37] <ryan1975> It is a Planar PX2230MW.
[20:37] <henkka> one more question. always when i start ubuntu my sound is muted.. is there way to set it so it wont be?
[20:38] <ryan1975> There was an article posted by someone here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2082116&highlight=Planar+touchscreen
[20:39] <ryan1975> Who seemed to have gotten the hardware to work. I had it working for a while, but something has happened, and I don't know enough to troubleshoot the issue.
[20:39] <fris> does a console program exist to convert pdf to epub? i know about the gui one calibre
[20:39] <oxoocoffee> Some say ext4 some btrfs :) here. Some saying that if you have jurnalization it should be off. So a lot to find out. Any one here can share what worked for him and what did not?
[20:40] <james_> #ardour
[20:43] <jrtappers> How do I have one xorg.conf where propietary drivers are used and one where they are not?
[20:43] <jaco> have you ever had a problem with sound in hdmi. I mean, when I use the hdmi's sound video stops and goes, stops and goes, but not when useing pc's sound
[20:43] <ThinkT510> jrtappers: you plan to switch graphics often?
[20:44] <cloudgeek> help python install
[20:44] <jrtappers> ThinkT510, I can't have the 3rd screen with propietary, cant run some software on open
[20:47] <newphreak> Hello, when i log in via ssh, ubuntu sais there is 6 security updates, but apt-get upgrade has no new packages
[20:47] <newphreak> so what and where are these 6 security updates?
[20:48] <newphreak> I am by the way running ubuntu server 12.04.1 LTS
[20:48] <lazers> jrtappers: "man xorg.conf" -- I see it under Section "InputDevice" -- Try that?
[20:48] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | newphreak
[20:48] <newphreak> ThinkT510: oh, dist-upgrade is a little different then on other distrobutions then :) thanks
[20:49] <newphreak> now i know what to look for
[20:49] <newphreak> !upgrade
[20:50] <alegen> hey, anyone who has experience with davmail?
[20:51] <funkymonk> How do I check what character encoding my filesystem is using?
[20:52] <damselfly9> jrtappers; this has directions for generating one xorg.conf, you'd do it once while the proprietary drivers are configured, then switch to the opensource and do it againhttp://www.ehow.com/how_8521031_create-xorgconf-ubuntu.html
[20:53] <chase> ping admin ?
[20:53] <damselfly9> jrtappers; you'd og course save a backup copy of the first xorg.conf you get, beause it will be overwirtten the second time
[20:53] <chase> i registered earlier but it isn't letting me login again (and i was cloaked, too)..
[20:53] <k1l_> misfit: ask in #freenode for freenode questions
[20:54] <damselfly9> guess he or she left
[20:54] <LiThiuME3> is there an easy way to test if a port is open on ubuntu via command line ?
[20:56] <happyface> Is there a channel where I can get support for 3.7 kernel?
[20:57]  * dd slaps burrtil around a bit with a large trout
[21:02] <Ralf_> #corewar@irc.jeux.fr
[21:05] <guntbert> Ralf_: thats a different irc network/server - this is freenod
[21:05] <guntbert> * freenode
[21:07] <bool> Why is hibernation deactivated?
[21:08] <Guest24404> & is it possible to activate hibernation ?
[21:08] <keelG> Dno & Yes :)
[21:08] <bool> this guide tells how to activate it: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/10/important-thingstweaks-to-do-after.html
[21:09] <Guest24404> thx
[21:11] <JPeterson> how do i replace with the non-untiy gnome?
[21:11] <JPeterson> gnome --replace?
[21:11] <yaro014> Hello
[21:11] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson, what ubuntu version do you have?
[21:11] <JPeterson> 14.4
[21:12] <bekks> 14.4 isnt released yet :P
[21:12] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson, if 12.10 then you have to install another desktop package "xfce" or "xubuntu-desktop"
[21:13] <damselfly9> JPeterson is back from the future :)
[21:13] <JPeterson> hhhzzzain: because startx enters non-unity gnome i suspect i can start it from inside x
[21:13] <yaro014> Could anyone tell me, is it possible to run just some applications from virtualized windows under linux ? I dont want to load up whole windows desktop but just application which will pops up like normal window
[21:13] <keelG> Does anyone have any experiences with a gui/client for SMS sending and retrival through a UMTS modem, they'd like to share? :) I have been looking at gnome-phone & gnokii, but I found gnome-phone to be lagging, and gnokii doesn't apear to have any active gui projects ;/
[21:13] <JPeterson> "i come from the future" (german terminator accent)
[21:14] <hhhzzzain> Jpeterson: are you using remote desktop? vps?
[21:14] <k1l_> JPeterson: dont use startx. use the lightdm
[21:14] <JPeterson> no
[21:14] <keelG> @Yaro014 I guess you could use either something like VMware Workstation, which has a "unity" function og use a remote machine and RDP
[21:14] <hhhzzzain> jpeterson, I was not following your problem, maybe someone else can help.
[21:14] <k1l_> JPeterson: and 14.4 is not a valid ubuntu. please pastbin "lsb_release -a"
[21:16] <yaro014> keelG: hmm Unity looks promising, this is what I looking for, is RDP not displaying whole desktop instead of just application ?
[21:16] <damselfly9> I guess skynet can assign any version numbers it wants
[21:16] <keelG> @Yrao014 - check this out for "seamless app RDP" or RemoteApp as MS calls it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148159/remmina-remoteapp-over-rdp
[21:16] <Wug> OK, so. I've got a website that loads in one browser and not in chromium
[21:16] <keelG> You can make RDP display only application
[21:16] <keelG> also :)
[21:17] <Wug> the website uses https and has a self signed certificate, but I don't get to the warning page, it gives me error 2 (Unknown Error)
[21:17] <Wug> I've tried clearing cache and browsing data and all that, and reinstalling the browser hasn't fixed it either
[21:17] <Wug> is there a magic command I can run to force reconfigure a package and all of its dependencies?
[21:18] <yaro014> keelG: your the man !, big thanx for that  :), this is exactly what I'm looking for. I just need to run RSAT for active directory. Big thanx again
[21:18] <damselfly9> Wug; are you sure that site isn't checking for browser useragent strings and making an exception of chromium?
[21:18] <Wug> it was working until some update in the recent past
[21:18] <Wug> restarted chromium, and the website would no longer load
[21:19] <jaco> have you ever had a problem with hdmi's sound. I mean, when I use the hdmi's sound the video stops and works, stops and works..., but it does not happen when useing pc's sound and video in hdmi. Summarizing, video and sound from hdmi DO NOT work, whereas video from hdmi and sound from pc DO work.
[21:19] <damselfly9> jaco; that's good to know
[21:20] <damselfly9> jaco; no but it happens to a lot of people who come asking here, so now I can tell them
[21:21] <dipix> boi stop!
[21:21] <henkka> hmm anyone have idea how to remove mesa driver.. seems to cause problems
[21:21] <damselfly9> jaco; I don't use hdmi sound, I use a real soundcard
[21:22] <Wug> jaco: have you checked the cable?  I heard something the other day that such problems can be caused by the obnoxious drm scheme HDMI uses not working quite correctly on substandard cables
[21:22] <Wug> don't go out and buy a $80 6 foot cable or anything, but it might be worth investigating
[21:22] <dipix> henkka; sudo apt-get purge mesa-utils
[21:23] <Wug> dipix: you wouldn't by any chance know a command I could use to force reconfigure chromium-browser and all of its dependancies would you?
[21:23] <Wug> god damnit
[21:24] <damselfly9> Wug; very well, your computer is now damned
[21:24] <Wug> it already is
[21:24] <Wug> im trying to undamn it
[21:25] <damselfly9> Wug; is that website the only site your new chromium has a problem with?
[21:25] <misterswag> is it possible to add space from / to /var
[21:25] <Wug> damselfly9: it's the only one I've found.  I've looked for others and not found any
[21:27] <Wug> for the record, the website is https://cs.rit.edu/
[21:27] <hehateme> is there a way to get win programs the require netframework to work on ubuntu
[21:27] <damselfly9> Wug; then consider yourself lucky you have many other web browsers to choose from
[21:27] <jaco> thank you so much to Wug and damselfly9
[21:28] <Wug> damselfly9: I'll pretend you're just trolling
[21:28] <n0sq> bummer, looks like i'll have to re-install 12.10 on one of my PC's - booted up knoppix to try to repair things but some files on the hard disk, like usermod, disappeared
[21:28] <keelG> @Yaro014  Glad I could help :)
[21:30] <Wug> Would anyone by any chance know a command I could use to force reconfigure chromium-browser and all of its dependencies?
[21:30] <damselfly9> Wug; it is unfortunate tht not every browser works with every website, but that is the breaks. I have many sites that don't work with *all* browsers, so I have more than one browser available. That's hardly trolling to say it's a minor inconvenience
[21:31] <ironhalik> Any idea why my thinkpad with 12.10 installed would draw 25W of power when it should be around 10W at idle?
[21:31] <keelG> @misterswag Isn't you /var mounted @ /?
[21:31] <keelG> @Ironhalik - Do you have Laptop-mode-tools installed? Check with Powertop :)
[21:32] <ironhalik> keelG: do I need to do some configuration after installing laptop mode tools?
[21:33] <Wug> damselfly9: if you don't know how to reconfigure the package and all of its dependencies and can't think of anything else to try apart from using a different browser, then I'd appreciate if you would help other people and leave my query be
[21:33] <hurleyman> hello, I can't locate a media server irc so I apologize if this is in the wrong spot. I have been looking at switching to ubuntu for a media server
[21:33] <hurleyman> mainly for plex. I came across amahi anybody used it
[21:34] <jaco> exit
[21:34] <Wug> I have another computer with the same version of OS and browser that works fine, it's got to be a broken package or something
[21:34] <kostkon> hurleyman, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/plexmediaserver/
[21:34] <keelG> ironhalik: well, I have personally done some minor tweaks and adjustsments - but all in all, it does not require much config
[21:34] <hehateme> is there a way to get win programs the require netframework to work on ubuntu
[21:34] <damselfly9> Wug; as you wish. I'll pretend you are just trolling
[21:36] <keelG> hehateme: check out the "mono" project, if you want to run .net code @native - else you'd probaly want to virtualize the MS environment
[21:36] <PhysicsBrain> Guys, greetings. Later I've installed the late ATI driver my Ubuntu QQ do not start anymore, appear a black screen with stains strange error. Anyone can help me?
[21:37] <keelG> PhysicsBrain: Do you get a console prompt if you press CTRL+ALT+F2 i.e.?
[21:37] <Wug> PhysicsBrain: can you get us the text of the error?
[21:37] <hehateme> does mono run alongside wine?
[21:38] <Wug> hehateme: I believe they are seperate
[21:38] <hurleyman> kostkon, thankyou.  I came across that this morning and read up on the install.  looks simple enough.
[21:38] <Wug> I'm not sure how much if any stuff they share between them
[21:38] <kostkon> hurleyman, yes, it should be easy
[21:38] <keelG> I am +1 with Wug
[21:38] <hurleyman> kostkon, messed with amahi at all?
[21:39] <Wug> .NET applications are not strictly executables, so mono is probably just an implementation of the .NET framework
[21:39] <kostkon> hehateme, avahi? not really
[21:39] <kostkon> oops
[21:39] <kostkon> hurleyman, avahi? not really
[21:39] <keelG> I have some experience with Avahi
[21:39] <hehateme> what is avahi?
[21:39] <hurleyman> ahahi or amahi?
[21:40] <keelG> Bonjour / zero-config for you link local
[21:40] <hurleyman> avahi or amahi?
[21:40] <kostkon> hurleyman, oh it's amahi ok :P
[21:40] <keelG> avahi, I am sorry if I started up some confusion
[21:40] <hurleyman> no worries!!
[21:42] <JPeterson> how do i programtaiclly from startx or other program run gnome instead of unity?
[21:43] <hurleyman> what about greyhole for disk pooling?
[21:43] <Wug> JPeterson: have you googled it?  google yielded this: http://www.itworld.com/software/272614/use-gnome-classic-ubuntu-1204
[21:43] <keelG> JPeterson: Install the Gnome DE
[21:43] <Wug> havent tested it
[21:44] <Brewster> I have a friend that would like to use space on my vps to practice using wordpress
[21:44] <JPeterson> with programatically i mean with an argument
[21:44] <Brewster> oops forgot to finish
[21:45] <k1l_> JPeterson: could you first clarify which ubuntu you are using?
[21:45] <JPeterson> 12.10
[21:45] <k1l_> JPeterson: and like told before. dont use startx. start the dm, like lightdm and choose the session there
[21:45] <jrtappers> How do I stop Xorg -configure saying can't run in framebuffer mode, please specify Bus IDs
[21:45] <k1l_> JPeterson: so why were you talking about ubuntu 14.4 the last times you were asked o_O
[21:46] <Brewster> I have a friend that would like to use space on my vps to practice using wordpress. However I really don't trust anyone with access to my vps. Is there a way that I can give them ftp access to only a specific directory?
[21:46] <jrtappers> Brewster, a user with only access to that folder by ftp may work
[21:46] <keelG> Brewster: I reckon all FTP server applications support ACL based on users
[21:47] <jrtappers> ThinkT510, I have nearly solved the graphics problem
[21:48] <Brewster> oh wait hold up I think I solved my problem
[21:48] <jrtappers> ThinkT510, but Xorg -configure says it can't run in framebuffer mode, please specify Bus IDs
[21:48] <Brewster> alright thanks
[21:50] <carlom61> Hi guys anybody with Ubuntu 12.10 + NVIDIA 310.xx and no errors with Unity?
[21:50] <Wug> carlom61: im sure it depends on what graphics hardware you havw
[21:51] <k1l_> carlom61: i think there are alot users :)
[21:51] <carlom61> but there is an issue whereby after installation Unity disappears
[21:52] <k1l_> carlom61: you should describe your issue than talk about general problems
[21:55] <techeavy> exit
[21:57] <carlom61> I have default graphic drivers (x.org server Nouveau display) installed now, however, once I install updated Nvidia drivers eiter from website or proprietary NVIDIA binary, after reboot Unity disappears and I cannot get it back working. Is it possible that bloody NVIDIA ufficial drivers always cause this issue now?
[21:57] <dodo_> hi, my new ubuntu installation wont recognize any usb memory stick i instert in computer, this message appears:Adding read ACL for uid 999 to `/media/lubuntu' failed: Operation not supported
[21:58] <k1l_> carlom61: you tried the driver from the repo?
[21:58] <carlom61> yep
[21:58] <carlom61> same problem
[21:58] <k1l_> carlom61: you have the log from the install?
[21:58] <keelG> dodo_: I solution to your problem is desribed on the facebook wall of the official fanpage
[21:58] <k1l_> carlom61: maybe the kernel headers are missing
[21:58] <alexxxxxxa> How to change IP adress? google doesnt help...
[21:58] <dodo_> keelg i dont have facebook acc
[21:59] <alexxxxxxa> Ii even installed wicd
[21:59] <keelG> dodo_: hang on
[21:59] <carlom61> no because I have reinstalled fresh 12.10 now and I dont dare reinstall them b4 I get a solution working
[21:59] <k1l_> alexxxxxxa: restart router
[21:59] <alexxxxxxa> but just cant find "proxy" anywhere
[21:59] <alexxxxxxa> tried
[21:59] <alexxxxxxa> it doesnt help
[21:59] <alexxxxxxa> I could do it on windows, by just typing "ipconfig /release, renew"...
[22:00] <alexxxxxxa> any hints?
[22:01] <keelG> dodo_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Adding+read+ACL+for+uid+999+to+%60%2Fmedia%27+failed%3A+Operation+not+supported
[22:01] <dodo_> thank you keelg
[22:01] <k1l_> carlom61: no pm please
[22:01] <carlom61> okay
[22:01] <dodo_> lol
[22:03] <wector> I gonna buy good shower
[22:06] <bsmith093> i just upgraded via fresh install from lucid to precise , i had the gedit plugins  installed, they are still in the repo, so i got them again, but where does it svae sessions, becasuse non of my old sessions are there?
[22:06] <HPChris> Hey i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 along side win 7,  My win7 is on sda3 instead of sda1, before proceeding with installation it warns about possible boot failure risks and such,  any advice?
[22:07] <Gleaker> hello, I am trying to install ubuntu from the windows installer and its downloading the amd64 version and I do not have an amd processor... i assume this is ok?
[22:07] <Gleaker> there was no option to pick anything different
[22:07] <damselfly9> Gleaker; no, it won't run
[22:08] <keelG> HPChris: Is your Windows already installed? If so, GRUB will mostlikely fix it for you NP. Else Have a liveCD ready with boot-repair.
[22:08] <Gleaker> it auto selected it i guess
[22:08] <damselfly9> Gleaker; you need a 64 bit cpu to run 64 bit linux
[22:08] <keelG> Gleaker: AMD64 is if your cpu supports the x86_64 architecture
[22:09] <Gleaker> hrm
[22:09] <guntbert> damselfly9: don't be silly - he defintely doesn't need an AND processor
[22:09] <guntbert> *AMD
[22:09] <damselfly9> he needs a 64
[22:09] <Gleaker> is there a way to convince the windows inatller i have an x86 system?
[22:10] <carlom61> hi guys, who is DEFINITELY using 12.10 + Nvidia 310.xx?
[22:10] <Prodego> Gleaker: yes that is ok
[22:10] <k1l_> carlom61: i am. but i told you that is not the way to resolve problems
[22:10] <keelG> Gleaker: are you trying to install Windows?
[22:10] <keelG> Gleaker: or installing Ubuntu FROM Windows?
[22:11] <Gleaker> trying to install ubuntu from the webpage, it has an installer
[22:11] <keelG> Gleaker: I will find you another guide to install - hang on
[22:11] <Gleaker> for some reason it d/l's and trys to install the amd64 version
[22:12] <keelG> Gleaker: This guide has screenshots and it all: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Installing-Ubuntu-12-10-301012.shtml
[22:12] <k1l_> Gleaker: it is the 64bit version. the patent was invented by amd so its called amd64. but its for intel cpus, too
[22:13] <keelG> Gleaker: i386/i686 is 32bit, and AMD64 is 64bit - if you have a computer from this decade - you should be able to run AMD64 just fine
[22:13] <Gleaker> kk
[22:13] <keelG> Gleaker: and as k1l_ says it doesnt matter if you have intel or AMD
[22:14] <Gleaker> ok thanks, i will try it again cause it didnt work
[22:14] <keelG> Gleaker: follow the guide I linked you
[22:14] <Gleaker> k
[22:15] <HPChris> my win7 is on sda 3, recovery is on sda1,  howcome the ubuntu installer warns about possible boot failure before installation? never seen this before
[22:16] <brianmunk> does ubuntu 12.10 come with a new naming standard for wired network interfaces, my card is not eth0 but p6p1 and I just wondered why, does anyone have a answer or a site with more information?
[22:18] <keelG> brianmunk: Not that I am aware of - my interfaces are named liked they've always been
[22:18] <keelG> HPChris: Because it will install GRUB instead of MS BCD
[22:18] <keelG> in the MBR
[22:20] <HPChris> Okay thanks, I've installed it alongside before and would use the grub menu, windows would be inside the grub menu in the past , it has just never gave me this warning before, so things should be fine with detecting the windows partition aswell?
[22:20] <n0sq> during re-install, i don't format /var but i get a message that all files under that directory will be deleted????
[22:20] <keelG> HPChris: I should think so yes
[22:21] <HPChris> thanks you kindly,  I'll be back if I have problems,
[22:21] <orionar> hello
[22:21] <orionar> imma noob
[22:21] <orionar> HALP ME
[22:21] <k1l_> !ask | orionar
[22:22] <keelG> orionar: look at the channel topics for guidelines :)
[22:22] <orionar> oh ok
[22:22] <orionar> whats
[22:23] <liquidmetal> Anyone here setup a dlna server on ubuntu?
[22:23] <PhysicsBrain> Guys, greetings. Later I've installed the late ATI driver my Ubuntu QQ do not start anymore, appear a black screen with stains strange error. Anyone can help me?
[22:23] <orionar> im sorry
[22:23] <keelG> PhysicsBrain: I have already enquired you for futher details
[22:23] <PhysicsBrain> Sorry the late.. no text error, just the black screen and i cannot open the terminal.
[22:23] <orionar> friend was making look bad
[22:24] <keelG> PhysicsBrain: what if you press CTRL + ALT + F2
[22:24] <Gnonthgol> what is the precise-updates repo? do I want it?
[22:24] <PhysicsBrain> Nothing keel G!
[22:25] <PhysicsBrain> Maybe the recuperation mode?
[22:25] <keelG> PhysicsBrain: you should try hold down "shift" when you boot, and boot ubuntu in recovery mode and reconfigure your xorg
[22:27] <PhysicsBrain> got it. Now I'm in BT other boot. I'll try and came tell you! Thanks Keel G!
[22:28] <tb01110100> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my friend's Compaq Presario CQ57. However, the computer refuses to boot from the USB, though it shows up in the boot options menu.
[22:28] <PhysicsBrain> Can I do in other boot or only in the Ubuntu?
[22:28] <tb01110100> I select SanDisk, then it boots to Windows.
[22:29] <damselfly9> tb01110100; that happanes to me too, my pc has a low success rate of booting usb
[22:29] <Gnonthgol> anyone?
[22:30] <jwrigley> Gnonthgol, what was that?
[22:30] <Gnonthgol> what is the precise-updates repo? do I want it?
[22:31] <jwrigley> Gnonthgol, are you asking conceptually what it is, or simply looking for the url?
[22:31] <souperk> hello, I have a problem! well, its not really a problem but.... being a newbie, its more a question! I would like to see the console messages scrolling at boot, instead of a black screen before desktop comes up!
[22:31] <souperk> how can I do that?
[22:32] <Gnonthgol> jwrigley: conseptualy, the url is easy enough to find
[22:32] <damselfly9> souperk; it is a boot option you can specify in grub2
[22:32] <jwrigley> souperk, Generally escape will toggle that
[22:33] <ring0> souperk, remove 'splash' from /etc/default/grub afterwards run 'sudo update-grub'
[22:33] <Gnonthgol> jwrigley: but I ran into a dependency problem with perl on the main repo and wonders if I should activate the updates repo, however I do want lts
[22:33] <tb01110100> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my friend's Compaq Presario CQ57. However, the computer refuses to boot from the USB, though it shows up in the boot options menu.
[22:33] <souperk> hello damselfly9 and ring0, thanks for your answers. ring0, do I have to edit that file "grub" right from ubuntu desktop?
[22:34] <guntbert> !repeat | tb01110100
[22:34] <ring0> souperk, yes, you have to edit the file
[22:34] <souperk> I will try!
[22:35] <souperk> the command "sudo update-grup" is important? or can I just boot the machine after the modification?
[22:35] <damselfly9> souperk; might be safer to comment it out than remove it altogether, so you don't forget where it went
[22:35] <souperk> *sudo update-grub *sorry
[22:36] <ring0> souperk, no you need to run the command afterwards or your adjustment will have no effect
[22:37] <jwrigley> Gnonthgol, Do you want it? Depends what version of Ubuntu you are running. A repository (repo for short) is the place from which ubuntu installs software. The updates repo contains recommended updates to software, precise-updates repo contains recommended updates for Ubuntu Precise Pangolin
[22:37] <ring0> damselfly9, how is he supposed to comment out splash in this line? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[22:38] <souperk> nice statement!
[22:38] <souperk> maybe i can just put // in front of the line like i do in php files?
[22:38] <damselfly9> by copying the whole original line to a comment
[22:38] <keelG> tb01110100: It sounds like your machine doesn't want to boot the USB for one reason or the other. Does the USB boot on other machines, and are you using UEFI boot (Win8 certified machines)=
[22:38] <ring0> damselfly9, that would work
[22:39] <tb01110100> keelG: It's a W7.
[22:39] <ring0> souperk, uncommenting is done with a #
[22:39] <keelG> tb01110100: can you boot the USB on another machine?
[22:39] <dcope> hey all
[22:39] <dcope> all of the sudden my 12.04 install is freaking out... it's like there is an input device clicking as fast as possible on my machine
[22:39] <jwrigley> In ubuntu jar-files can be executed if java is installed and the executable bit is set. Anyone know how that happens?
[22:39] <dcope> any ideas?
[22:39] <Gnonthgol> jwrigley: I too have read the docs, but what exactly does recommended updates mean, is it major versions, minor versions or just patches, can it cause the system to become unstable?
[22:40] <souperk> I can put a line above that one with #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[22:40] <tb01110100> keelG: BRB
[22:40] <souperk> so that I can still see how it was the original? is it ok?
[22:40] <damselfly9> yes
[22:40] <JokesOnYou77> HI all, I'm getting a duplicate sources message when I run apt-get update and I think it has something to do with an extra Partners repo entry added by the software center, has anyone seen this before?
[22:40] <keelG> jwrigley: java -jar /path/to/jar.file
[22:41] <damselfly9> dcope; what is it doing at a rapid rate?
[22:41] <Gnonthgol> jwrigley: the kernel have options to register executors in userspace, when the kernel tries to run something that is not a shell file or an elf file it runs java
[22:42] <dcope> damselfly9: it is hard to describe
[22:42] <dcope> damselfly9: i right click on the desktop, and new folder is atuomatically selected
[22:42] <dcope> by the time the right click is over, the new folder is also clicked like 15 times
[22:42] <dcope> so now i have a bunch of open folders
[22:43] <tb01110100> keelG: Now that you mention it, No. :)
[22:43] <dcope> i think the sixaxis driver is cuasing it
[22:43] <damselfly9> dcope; does it keep doing that? or does it only happen when you right click?
[22:44] <keelG> tb01110100: That might be the root cause then ;) Use unetbootin, if you already tried that or it still fails - try to repartition/format the USB drive
[22:44] <dcope> damselfly9: it keeps doing it
[22:44] <dcope> for instance, i just clicked my user name in the top right of unity and it auto selected "Swithc User"
[22:44] <damselfly9> dcope; can you try a different mouse?
[22:44] <dcope> damselfly9: i have
[22:44] <dcope> damselfly9: i tried usb mouse and now i am over VNC
[22:45] <damselfly9> dcope; that's messed up alright
[22:45] <dcope> indeed
[22:45] <dcope> i removed the sixaxis driver but it's still happening
[22:45] <JokesOnYou77> Does anyone know why the software-center lists an extra Partners source that is "Added by Software-Center" and if it's safe to uncheck it?
[22:45] <damselfly9> what about a different usb port?
[22:45] <dcope> damselfly9: i tried vnc too and it does it
[22:45] <dcope> with the mouse unplugged
[22:45] <Gnonthgol> dcope: I hope you have checked the obvious and unplugged all the usb connections to see if there is another mouse hidden away
[22:46] <dcope> yes
[22:46] <damselfly9> weird
[22:46] <dcope> it only happens after login all
[22:46] <dcope> i use the mouse at the login screen just fine. i log into my account and bam, it happens
[22:47] <damselfly9> dcope; do have have any remote desktop options enabled?
[22:47] <RollinV2> JokesOnYou77, thats for software like dropbox vlc etc if i recall correctly. its safe to leave it on.
[22:47] <dcope> argh this is annoying
[22:47] <dcope> damselfly9: none, im doing vnc over ssh
[22:47] <jwrigley> Gnonthgol, precise-updates are considered to be stable, but as with any change it may introduce instability. Depending on the instability a new version will appear in either precise-security or again in precise-updates
[22:47] <samo_svoj> I have a quuestion regarding default UI - currently it is Unity but entering into mobile phone market Ubuntu plans to use Qt for UI. Does it mean Ubuntu have plans to switch to KDE as default UI in future?
[22:48] <dcope> is there a way to unload x drivers?
[22:48] <jwrigley> Gnonthgol, does that mean there is a kernel flag to activate java?
[22:48] <dcope> or just reload the stock ubu x mouse driver?
[22:48] <dr_willis> you can use qt without kde
[22:48] <dcope> over ssh
[22:48] <JokesOnYou77> RollinV2, I think it's causing a duplicate sources entry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574253/
[22:48] <JokesOnYou77> *Error
[22:49] <damselfly9> dcope; this only happened after you installed sixaxis?
[22:49] <folorn> could someone explain to me how to Add repositories from terminal please i forget " I've already imported the key so everything should be good just forgot the command all repos are debs too as well"?
[22:49] <dcope> damselfly9: yes. "sixad" package. but i removed it and rebooted
[22:49] <samo_svoj> dr_willis: of course you can, but it is more complex from developers perspective to mix GTK+ and Qt
[22:49] <dr_willis> samo_svoj: i belive some ubuntu apps are allready using qt. i foget what ones
[22:50] <dcope> damselfly9: so it only happens when i click
[22:50] <dcope> i can mouse over a folder and it doesn't open
[22:50] <dcope> but if i click it once to select it, like 10 new windows open
[22:50] <samo_svoj> dr_willis: does it means ubuntu is leaving GTK+?
[22:50] <damselfly9> dcope; apparently it left unremoved entries in the config files. you could try reinstalling the normal mouse package, that might reset things
[22:50] <Gnonthgol> jwrigley: look up binfmt_misc
[22:50] <kostkon> dr_willis, ubuntu one client
[22:50] <dcope> damselfly9: xserver-xorg-input-mouse ?
[22:51] <damselfly9> any normal mouse package
[22:51] <dr_willis> samo_svoj: no idea.  could be they used qt for tge u1 client to make it more portable
[22:52] <jwrigley> Gnonthgol, thanks, will do.
[22:52] <dcope> damselfly9:  how can i open an x application over ssh?
[22:52] <dcope> i want to open xev
[22:53] <hehateme> how do u use mono and wine together?
[22:53] <damselfly9> I don't know, I never use ssh
[22:53] <keelG> you dont
[22:53] <dcope> on os x we have `open` which will launch a program on the host machine
[22:53] <kevinmthomas> ssh is the way to go  telnet is dead except for port testing
[22:53] <dcope> on debian it seems that an x error is just spat out when trying to launch an x program over ssh
[22:54] <hehateme> so how do u use an exe that requires netframe work plus wine?
[22:54] <dcope> the only way is if you're on the host machine which makes no sense
[22:54] <JokesOnYou77> Can anyone give me a hand with a duplicate sources error? there's no duplicate source I can find in sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574253/
[22:54] <keelG> dcope: do you want to open the application on the remote system or on the host from which you are initiatiing the tunnel?
[22:54] <dr_willis> use xhost in the remote box to allow access. rhen export the display frim the ssh sessiin
[22:54] <dcope> keelG: open it on the host machine
[22:54] <kostkon> hehateme, latest wine includes mono and uses it when loading .net apps
[22:54] <dcope> google is of no help :
[22:54] <dcope> (
[22:54] <Flannel> JokesOnYou77: You'll need to pastebin your sources.list, as well as everything in /etc/sources.list.d/
[22:55] <souperk> guys, deleting "splash" after quiet did not work
[22:55] <souperk> I just rebooted and the screen is still black!
[22:55] <souperk> no console messages :(
[22:55] <keelG> dcope: use ssh -Y user@remote
[22:56] <damselfly9> souperk; did you update grub before you rebooted?
[22:56] <kostkon> hehateme, to get the latest version of wine, follow the instructions here:  http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[22:56] <souperk> yes damselfly9, i did that command from the terminal console, after editing the file
[22:56] <souperk> and now that I try to edit again, I verify that splash is not there anymore
[22:56] <keelG> Why would you install mono in Wine?
[22:56] <whitenoise> anyone familiar with creating headless virtual box vms on ubuntu server? I created one, installed xrdp, booted the VM, and I when I do <Ubuntu's IP>:3389 .. I get the host machine, not the VM guest as documented.
[22:56] <dcope> keelG: same thing... $xev .... xev:  unable to open display ''
[22:57] <damselfly9> souperk; you can get the same messages afterwards in a console window
[22:57] <dcope> jesus christ, is there no way to launch an x program on a machine that i am ssh'd into on ubuntu?
[22:57] <keelG> dcope: I seem to vaguely remember needing to enable something. Buuuuuut I am not sure at all
[22:58] <Gnonthgol> dcope: use the -X option in ssh
[22:58] <keelG> dcope: Its a long time since Ive done it, but it should work
[22:58] <dr_willis> dcope:  with xhost and exporting the display.. i recall its doable
[22:58] <damselfly9> dcope; yes, if the target machine's port 6000 was left open
[22:58] <UNIm951> Hi.
[22:58] <UNIm951> Help me please
[22:58] <UNIm951> i have realtek wifi
[22:59] <dr_willis> disable x forwarding. on the host use  the xhost command to allow it.. ssh in. export display. run the app
[22:59] <guntbert> UNIm951: you need to ask a real question - all in one line please
[22:59] <dcope> i'm not trying to tunnel x to my machine!
[22:59] <Gnonthgol> dcope: assuming you have X on both the client and the server and X-Forwarding enabled in sshd.conf on your server
[22:59] <dcope> no, i don't want to forward
[22:59] <keelG> dcope: ooow, then you should listen to dr_willis
[22:59] <dcope> i am ssh into machine foobar, how can i launch `xev` on machine foobar?
[23:00]  * washuu_de is back (gone 87766:28:00)
[23:00] <Gnonthgol> dcope: you could set the DISPLAY env variable to direct the output to another display
[23:00] <UNIm951> on lsmod i can see that rtl8192se module is loaded. But network-manager and ifconfig -a don't show wlan0 interface
[23:00] <dr_willis> dcop ... you use xhost  then export the display
[23:00] <JokesOnYou77> Flannel: sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574277/    contents of /etc/apt/sources/list/d   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574281/
[23:01] <Gnonthgol> JokesOnYou77: #cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:02] <JokesOnYou77> Gnonthgol, you can't cat a directory
[23:02] <Gnonthgol> JokesOnYou77: #cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[23:02] <Flannel> JokesOnYou77: Sorry, I meant the contents of each of those files.  Since it looks like in your sources.list, you have the partner repository enabled, and then in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/precise-partner.list, you probably also have the partner repository enabled, and there's your duplication.
[23:03] <JokesOnYou77> Gnonthgol, I bow to your superior knowledge of the shell :)
[23:03] <bloony> why doesnt the ubuntu repo have htop 1.0.2? only has 1.0.1 it seems?
[23:03] <dr_willis> !latest
[23:03] <Flannel> bloony: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[23:04] <JokesOnYou77> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574297/
[23:04] <Gnonthgol> bloony: next release will have 1.0.2
[23:04] <hehateme> kostkon thanks for the info worked out perfectly. was using an older wine.
[23:04] <bloony> Flannel: hmm.. cant remember.. where can I see that?
[23:05] <Flannel> bloony: lsb_release -a
[23:05] <bloony> Gnonthgol: okay
[23:05] <kostkon> hehateme, :)
[23:05] <bloony> Flannel: 12.10
[23:05] <Gnonthgol> JokesOnYou77: there you see duplicate lines, there should be the same lines in software centre
[23:05] <Flannel> JokesOnYou77: Yeah, the previous thing I said is the case.  You have the partner repository enabled in two places.  See line 53 here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574277/ and 16 here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1574297/
[23:06] <Flannel> bloony: htop 1.0.2 was released in November of 2012, after 12.10 was released.  That's why it doesn't have 1.0.2, what about 1.0.2 were you hoping to have?  Features? or bug fixes?
[23:06] <ironhalik> keelG: After installing laptop-mode-tools and following wiki art on power saving, I've cut the power consumption in half :)
[23:07] <keelG> ironhalik: great stuff mate! I did some stuff like activating ASPM (be careful and test this, before enabling) it could save you as much as ~1watt - Also I made some changes to chargins tresholds of the battery to extend it lifetime
[23:08] <JokesOnYou77> Flannel, I see that now.  But I still don't understand what sources.list.d is for or why the software-center added this entry on its own.  Also, lines 16 and 17 are also duplicates if they are some how additional to sources.list
[23:08] <usr13> keelG: Where is the wiki?
[23:08]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[23:08] <Flannel> JokesOnYou77: Pretend everything in sources.list.d is appended to your sources.list, because that's basically what apt-get does.
[23:08] <ironhalik> keelG: the wiki reports ASPM should be safe to use on x220, so I enabled it too
[23:08] <keelG> usr13: ask ironhalik, I only pointed him into the direction of laptop-mode-tools
[23:09] <ironhalik> usr13: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/PowerSavingTweaks
[23:09] <keelG> ironhalik: I am using it also on a X1C, but you should still test it :)
[23:09] <Flannel> JokesOnYou77: Yeah, both the binary and src repositories are duplicates.  I'm not sure why software center did, but simply deleting that file (sources.list.d/precise-partner.list, I imagine) should solve your problem
[23:09] <keelG> ironhalik: just by leaving your machine powered on for like 24hours or so
[23:10] <JokesOnYou77> Flannel, so should I fix this by unchecking the box in the software-center GUI or should I edit sources.list since it looks like modifications for ".d might not stick?
[23:10] <keelG> ironhalik: I am curious - what is your watt usage on a X220?
[23:11] <ironhalik> keelG: currently, on idle, about 12-13W
[23:11] <ironhalik> and with the CPU out of sleep, around 20-23
[23:11] <keelG> max brightness?
[23:12] <Flannel> JokesOnYou77: I'm not really sure.  Some of those warnings were for other files, since that contained the contents of *all* of those files.  Unchecking it in software sources *should* comment it out of sources.list, not fiddle with sources.list.d.  My first experiment would be to delete the file in the sources.list.d, open/close all of the software sources thing, and then see if it comes back (I expect it won't).
[23:12]  * Gnonthgol remembers the days of undervolting the cpu to 0.7V to keep the fans from dying
[23:12] <ironhalik> yeah, max or almost max - according to powertop, reducing the brigthness doesn't save as much power as it did on CCFL displays
[23:13] <keelG> Gnonthgol: check this out: http://www.dvice.com/archives/2012/12/ges-piezoelectr.php
[23:13] <ironhalik> Gnonthgol: I've once seen a guy who would blow into his thinkpad during boot-up to make his dead fan spin, to bypass BIOS checking it's status
[23:13] <keelG> Gnonthgol: The "fan" has been installed on a Thinkpad and test to to work
[23:14] <JokesOnYou77> Flannel, I'll give it a shot
[23:14] <Gnonthgol> keelG: nice
[23:14] <keelG> Gnonthgol: soon it will be "remember back in the day, when laptop had moving mechanical parts?"
[23:14] <hipitihop> I'm getting constant stream of following error in my syslog can someone help me identify pls: kernel: [21221.398976] input input5: event field not found
[23:15] <Gnonthgol> modern laptops have better fans and more thought out placement of everything in addition to less power hungry hardware, cooling is not the biggest problem today
[23:15] <keelG> true, but the design of a fan is "hopeless" never the less
[23:15] <keelG> compared to the alternative presented by GE
[23:15] <Gnonthgol> keelG: laptops will always have moving parts, they just becomes smaller
[23:16] <keelG> weeeeeell
[23:16] <JokesOnYou77> Flannel, I unchecked it in the GUI and it worked!  Thanks for all the help.  And same to Gnonthgol
[23:16] <ironhalik> the x220 is silent most of the time, only under heavy load you can hear a faint fan noise
[23:16] <Gnonthgol> np
[23:16] <keelG> Gnonthgol:  There is no bearings left then :)
[23:17] <keelG> On my Thinkpad X1C fan noise or cooling is no issue - however the idea of a mechanical spinning fan is hopeless :D
[23:17] <keelG> It will die eventually
[23:17] <keelG> mostlikely before anything else
[23:18] <Gnonthgol> either the cpus will become cooler so they don't need fans, or we will have fancier cooling, or both
[23:18] <keelG> Gnonthgol: didnt you check out my link?
[23:18] <keelG> you have the fan replacement right there
[23:18] <keelG> wait, ill find the youtube promo
[23:19] <Gnonthgol> I saw the link, and I am waiting for it to become common
[23:19] <ironhalik> my 486sx ran passively cooled :>
[23:19] <keelG> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm5fXj-hUpk
[23:19] <keelG> true, but this seems like something we could have within a few generations
[23:20] <keelG> (of laptops
[23:20] <keelG> )
[23:20] <keelG> they took the old Thinkpad X1 (with the NON-ULV cpu) and tested it
[23:22] <keelG> ow wait it looks like its the ULV CPU afterall
[23:22] <keelG> still cool tech!
[23:23] <KxTwo> Hey guys I am looking for up to date instructions on how to stream media from ubuntu to my ps3(want to watch movies).  My google search turns up things that are 3 or 4 years old.
[23:23] <felipe_Brz> i am having a little issue with my wireless card... when I run lshw -class network i can see that the driver for my card is called 'wl0' ... is adding this driver name to blacklist.conf the best way to change drivers?
[23:24] <jay__> anyone give me a command to speed up myu wireless lags on internet
[23:24] <ubuntuuser> hi  my mouse keeps frezzing in ubuntu 10.04 desktop version i re installed this three times so far
[23:25] <ubuntuuser> any clues?
[23:25] <jay__> anyone give me a command to speed up my wireless lags on internet
[23:25] <JPeterson> how do i get the launch command from the dash home menu?
[23:26] <kostkon> JPeterson, launch command?
[23:26] <ironhalik> wow, x1 has nice access to it's components
[23:26] <JPeterson> ya the command run when dash home item is clicked
[23:27] <keelG> ironhalik: too bad almost everything is soldered on
[23:27] <kostkon> JPeterson, for which app?
[23:27] <JokesOnYou77> jay__, I'm really not sure there is such a thing.  Your best bet would be to make sure you're close enough to your router to get a signal and to make sure you're not getting any interference from nearby wifi routers
[23:27] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  ushare, or other dlna servers can do that...
[23:27] <hipitihop> how can I find out what device this log entry relates to: "kernel: [21491.127129] input input5: event field not found"
[23:28] <ironhalik> keelG: huh, yeah
[23:28] <KxTwo> dr_willis, I was going to try this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ps3MediaServer
[23:28] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  so try it...
[23:28] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  most dlna servers have ps3 options
[23:37] <g0tcha> hey guys, is it possible to put an order on which bash script starts first on boot?
[23:37] <dr_willis> g0tcha:  the upstart system has methods to order things.. but it also tries to run things in parallel when it can.
[23:38] <dr_willis> the 'upstart cookbook' web site has some decent docs on it
[23:39] <g0tcha> dr_willis, is that part of ubuntu or a stand alone?
[23:46] <tekoholic> Oh boy...  Can anyone help me with this?:  I'm running several machines with Ubuntu, and mesh-networking via batman-adv, getting IP via DHCP.  This is successful as long as everything is here at the home.  However, I have a vehicle computer (cellular WAN when necessary) and a portable (netbook) that are not always at home.  I'm looking to script a scenario such as this:  dhclient mesh0 -> if fail to get IP set static and start
[23:46] <tekoholic> dnsmasq
[23:47] <tekoholic> However, dnsmasq is already running for sake of local DNS Caching, so it would need to be REstarted, I imagine, with different config
[23:48] <felipe_Brz> could anybody confirm that, if I see driver=wl upon probing my wireless card, that means that it's the STA Broadcom Driver??
[23:56] <jfair> org-mode
[23:59] <bakers> I'm testing bundling a game, and I need a ubuntu 64 test user
[23:59] <bakers> Anyone willing to tell me if my binary works/launches the game?
[23:59] <bakers> and has Ubunutu 64? I tested it on Fedora 64 bit
[23:59] <Tr3v0r> .
[23:59] <mojtaba> Hi, Can anyone tell me how can I use mail in bash?
[23:59] <mojtaba> It does not work