| ibeardslee | morning | 18:24 |
|---|---|---|
| snail | morning | 19:20 |
| ibeardslee | thumper: nice response to that that openchat email | 20:29 |
| thumper | ibeardslee: thanks, I tried to stay reasonable | 20:29 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:29 |
| thumper | although I did have to laugh a bit about the bit where he said canonical could install a package to control your webcam and record you having sex to make porn movies for the amusement of canonical employees | 20:30 |
| thumper | I don't think any of us have time for that :) | 20:30 |
| ajmitch | where am I missing this entertaining mail? | 20:30 |
| thumper | ajmitch: nzoss-opencat | 20:30 |
| thumper | chat | 20:30 |
| thumper | windows 8 - a video something | 20:30 |
| thumper | turned into ubuntu bashing | 20:30 |
| ajmitch | sounds typical | 20:30 |
| ajmitch | I see the main person instigating that is a local | 20:32 |
| thumper | yep | 20:33 |
| ajmitch | you should sit down & have a chat with him after codecraft some time, it could be entertaining :) | 20:33 |
| thumper | yeah... or I might just end up getting angry | 20:34 |
| ajmitch | probably | 20:34 |
| ajmitch | just reading your reply now | 20:36 |
| mwhudson | morning | 20:44 |
| thumper | hi mwhudson | 20:56 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: sorry | 21:17 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: np | 21:17 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: i shouldn't reply to fb when cranky in the morning because a baby isn't sleeping | 21:18 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: that will be a while then :) | 21:18 |
| thumper | heh | 21:19 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: although right after i posted that, she went so sleep for so long that i was late into the office this morning so... | 21:20 |
| olly | it seems unlikely you could record *any* very useful video by turning on people's webcams | 21:45 |
| olly | you'd get a lot of footage of people staring at screens | 21:46 |
| olly | perhaps it'd work for a porn website for people turned on by ceilings | 21:46 |
| olly | or nose picking | 21:46 |
| thumper | olly: heh | 21:57 |
| ajmitch | thumper: ok, I see now that I should not read my dunlug email | 22:09 |
| thumper | :) | 22:09 |
| thumper | I unsubscribed from dunlug after the last lot of unty bashing | 22:10 |
| ajmitch | monday morning & I want a stiff drink | 22:10 |
| ajmitch | and I'm not a fan of a number of recent changes, but still... | 22:10 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: :) | 22:10 |
| mwhudson | olly: i was drinking coffee when i read that dammit | 22:19 |
| ibeardslee | there are a number of people with gripes about unity, on the whole it does the job for me. And certainly the 'how dare someone monetise their work' comments are a bit arse. As are the "I'll go to distro $x" and Distro $x is built on Ubuntu | 22:22 |
| mwhudson | who was it who made the "that's it! i'm switching to arch" t-shirts? | 22:23 |
| ajmitch | ibeardslee: but it's ubuntu without the evil bit set that they're moving to | 22:26 |
| thumper | mwhudson: we should so get some of those printed | 22:32 |
| mwhudson | i think it was a bit of an omg ubuntu meme for a while | 22:33 |
| mwhudson | is omg ubuntu still a thing? | 22:33 |
| mwhudson | it seems to not have dns currently | 22:34 |
| mwhudson | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | 22:35 |
| mwhudson | origin.omgubuntu.co.uk.29INCNAMEorigin.omgubuntu.co.uk. | 22:35 |
| mwhudson | UM | 22:35 |
| ajmitch | I'm not seeing a CNAME | 22:38 |
| ajmitch | just an A record also with a 30 sec TTL | 22:39 |
| mwhudson | yeah, it works now | 22:40 |
| olly | i think unity has suffered from being pushed into prime time too early | 23:00 |
| olly | people form an impression from when they first use something, and that tends to stick around | 23:00 |
| olly | it's a difficult choice, because pushing things out to the masses helps get a lot of people bashing away at them and shaking out issues | 23:02 |
| ajmitch | it might have worked out better to have it available but not the default desktop for a couple of releases, but that's in the past now | 23:02 |
| olly | it is for unity, though it's something to think about whether one can learn from | 23:03 |
| ajmitch | by the time precise rolled round unity was fairly usable, or people had learned to put up with it :) | 23:03 |
| mwhudson | how's wayland going heh heh | 23:03 |
| ajmitch | it'll be ready any day now | 23:05 |
| thumper | I have an answer to that, but I'm not allowed to say :) | 23:07 |
| ajmitch | whatever it is, people will complain | 23:09 |
| ajmitch | I think that's one thing we can be sure about :) | 23:10 |
| ibeardslee | on the whole people don't like change | 23:11 |
| olly | that's what you need to change | 23:11 |
| mwhudson | ibeardslee: but they don't like the current situation either! | 23:12 |
| mwhudson | so you have to change just the things _they_ care about | 23:12 |
| mwhudson | but everyone cares about different things | 23:12 |
| ajmitch | on the whole, people like to complain | 23:13 |
| mwhudson | +1 insightful | 23:13 |
| ibeardslee | mwhudson: the current situation is a change ;) | 23:15 |
| ibeardslee | but I think ajmitch does nail it | 23:15 |
| olly | on the plus side, if they're complaining, they probably actually care | 23:15 |
| olly | if you made a major change and there was no response, that'd not be a very good sign | 23:16 |
| mwhudson | this is true | 23:18 |
| ibeardslee | some of the LCA tweets seem to be covering the same thing (Bdale's keynote) | 23:20 |
| ibeardslee | https://twitter.com/henaredegan/status/295671279955099648 | 23:21 |
| * thumper is missing LCA | 23:21 | |
| thumper | ajmitch: you are there? | 23:21 |
| ajmitch | no I'm not | 23:22 |
| ibeardslee | although I think part of the difference is that "want it to work the way I used to use it" | 23:22 |
| * ibeardslee isn't there either | 23:22 | |
| * mwhudson comes across a link to http://xkcd.com/178/, randomly | 23:23 | |
| snail | i'd click that link, but i'm not really into pokemon... | 23:45 |
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