[00:00] <mojtaba> Do I need to do something before that?
[00:00] <keelG> an pop3/imap email client or just send an email with smtp?
[00:00] <mojtaba> I just got dead.letter in my home directory
[00:01] <mojtaba> I want to send it via my gmail
[00:01] <mojtaba> keelG: I just want to use my gmail account
[00:01] <mojtaba> I guess it is imap.
[00:01] <keelG> mojtaba: Im afraid I have no expereince with a cmdline based email client or any other client which will allow you to do that. However It wouldnt surprise me it existed :)
[00:02] <mojtaba> actually I want to use command line one, because finally I want to set a task with cron to email the external IP address of the server remotely on a daily basis
[00:03] <keelG> mojtaba: check this out: http://www.fclose.com/b/linux/1411/sending-email-from-mailx-command-in-linux-using-gmails-smtp/
[00:03] <mojtaba> I know how to get the external ip address of the server via cmd
[00:03] <JPeterson> how do i mov ethe unity launch bar to the bottom?
[00:03] <dr_willis> JPeterson:  short answer.. you dont./
[00:03] <k1l_> JPeterson: that is not ment to happen
[00:04] <keelG> Mark Shuttleworth is slightly "Steve Jobs" when it comes to the unity bar
[00:04] <dr_willis> there used to be unofficial and crashy mods/hacks one could use.. but not seen those mentioned in ages.
[00:04] <mojtaba> keelG: I will take a look. thanks
[00:04] <RollinV2> keelG, slightly? lol
[00:04] <k1l_> if you want unity not to be like unity, just dont use unity. thats it :/
[00:04] <keelG> I was only putting it mildly ;)
[00:04] <dr_willis> you can always run some other docks if you wanted
[00:04] <vulte> hello all, I edited /etc/fstab so it would auto mount a CIFS network volume.. with the line for that CIFS volume, the system hangs on boot due to CIFS being unable to mount the network share. is there some way to delay the mount until some point later in boot?
[00:05] <dr_willis> along with unity
[00:05] <keelG> Yea, make unity autohide and run AWN or docky or whatever
[00:05] <Noskcaj> is it possible to use opencl with the mesa drivers?
[00:05] <RollinV2> they won't even let unity be docked to the right or bottom edge of the screen. its beyond a slap in the face to customization.
[00:05] <JPeterson> neither were you
[00:05] <dr_willis> vulte:  i think theres some waiting option for cifs.  or just set it to noauto , then mount it from rc.local after some delay so you know the system is up and ready
[00:05] <RollinV2> plank is good dock.
[00:06] <k1l_> RollinV2: before going to judge read about the history of the gnome2. :/
[00:06] <dr_willis> ive seen more issues with users messing things up with their customizations  then i want to mention...
[00:06] <keelG> Plank looks awesome
[00:07] <vulte> dr_willis: is noauto an argument i can put in the share's line in /etc/fstab?
[00:07] <dr_willis> vulte:  yes.
[00:07] <RollinV2> k1l_, gnome2 was forked too much. i get it. doesn't excuse unity's complete lack of customization options.
[00:07] <vulte> dr_willis: thanks
[00:07] <bakers> I just packaged up a game, can someone tell if this runs for you? http://www.perturb.org/tmp/shivah.tar.gz
[00:07] <dr_willis> night all..
[00:08] <IveBeenBit> I am having problems installing Ubuntu in a dual boot with Windows 7. The partition editor does not recognize any of my hard drives, and then the installer crashes. Does anyone feel like helping me in #ubuntu-beginners?
[00:08] <k1l_> RollinV2: no, there is a very famous citation from linus torvalds about the customizations from gnome2.
[00:08] <keelG> bakers: I normally wouldn't mind helping out the next guy with his pet project. But why don't you test your code yourself
[00:08] <k1l_> so judging unity in that way is not to be true about the gnome2 itself.
[00:09] <RollinV2> i've read linus option on gnome3. never saw his gnome2 rants.
[00:09] <bakers> keelG: I tested it on fedora, and I want an ubuntu test
[00:09] <bakers> keelG: I'm testing if the binary I made is cross distro compatible
[00:09] <keelG> bakers: I get that, why not just live ubuntu and test it?
[00:09] <tronnix> ivebeenbit i;m over there
[00:09] <bakers> keelG: I could do that!
[00:10] <k1l_> RollinV2: kk :/
[00:10] <RollinV2> he is right about tweak tool
[00:10] <keelG> RollinV2: I guess you have seen the Mechanig project ?
[00:11] <hehateme> hello wine 1.5.5 wont show up in the repository. only 1.5.2
[00:11] <RollinV2> keelG, i can't keep up with everything. googling it now.
[00:13] <RollinV2> keelG, looks useful. should come built into the distro.
[00:14] <nibbler> anyone good with digikam? i'm importing my pics which i managed with f-spot before. the tags, which seems to be saved in the xmp/Subject field, are comma sperated. now when importing it sometimes gives me several distinct tags, and for some pictures only one long tag, including several commas... how to control this?
[00:15] <Noskcaj> am i able to se open cl with the open-source drivers?
[00:16] <Noskcaj> *use
[00:16] <allan_> hello
[00:16] <Nekosan> anyone know if this will work with 12.04? http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-Webcam-5MP-50-0M-Camera-Stand-Mic-6-LED-for-Laptop-PC-Mac-Linux-/290849463013?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123
[00:16] <keelG> RollinV2:  Yea. From what I could tell they forked with Ubuntu Tweak and are trying to package it slightly more userfriendly. Beats CSSM thats for sure!
[00:16] <allan_> anyone here willing to help out a linux noob?
[00:17] <keelG> allan_:  if you state your problem, with adequate details I am certain someone will :)
[00:18] <RollinV2> use paste.ubuntu.com if your problem is multiline
[00:19] <allan_> in the ubuntu software center the buttons and words keep glitching. it seems the glitch is only visual, but its rather annoying and I dont know anything about linux to fix it
[00:19] <tronnix> are you running a live distro?
[00:19] <tronnix> or installed?
[00:19] <allan_> no
[00:19] <allan_> I am dual booting however.
[00:19] <chamunks> I'm slightly concerned about this output http://puu.sh/1T9dU  can someone make sure I'm not worried over nothing.
[00:20] <allan_> installed.
[00:20] <chamunks> the output is apt-get response to an install I'm trying to run http://puu.sh/1T9dU
[00:20] <tronnix> install synaptic package manager, and use software center minimally
[00:21] <allan_> also I am having some issues getting steam to install. Im using 12.10
[00:21] <keelG> allan_: what tronnix said - however, does the problem exist in a Guest session or if you login as another user?
[00:21] <allan_> I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to use this instead of windows 7, or just run along side.
[00:21] <hehateme> ive added  ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa and it just has 1.5.2 not 1.5.5
[00:22] <allan_> It exists on my main account. No idea about guest sessions.
[00:22] <chamunks> does anyone thing that it would be safe for me to restart this server after seeing this Its my first time on this server.
[00:23] <CraftyBanardo> Hi Guys, can anyone help me with a samba issue. I feel like I've been banging my head against the wall for the last 2-3 hours.
[00:33] <waspinator> can anyone see the footer here in firefox? http://www.cssreset.com/demos/layouts/how-to-keep-footer-at-bottom-of-page-with-css/
[00:34] <waspinator> doesn't show up in FF 18.0.1
[00:34] <waspinator> but it does on windows ...
[00:34] <hipitihop> waspinator, ok on 17.01 linux
[00:35] <hanlond> Is this an appropriate place to ask questions about ubuntu server?
[00:36] <jrib> hanlond: yes, and there's also #ubuntu-server.  Either channel is fine
[00:36] <k1l_> hanlond: you can ask here. but there is #ubuntu-server, too
[00:36] <hipitihop> waspinator, sorry too quick a nd was running a windows vb here, meant to say, ff 18.0.1 on windows is ok
[00:36] <k1l_> jrib: *5* :)
[00:36] <jrib> k1l_: at least I'm fairly certain I've said the right thing now ;)
[00:36] <waspinator> ya works for me on windows too...
[00:37] <hipitihop> waspinator, but it is also fine on 18.0.1 on buntu (lts)
[00:38] <waspinator> I'm on 12.10 x32. strange
[00:39] <keelG> waspinator: also ok on 12.10@ff18.01 - if its the "tear footer" thing
[00:42] <waspinator> oh doh! I'm just an idiot. I have two screens 1920x1080 and 1920x1200, and when I moved my FF window from the bigger one to the smaller one it looked like it was full screen but it wasn't. the bottom was just being cut off
[00:44] <keelG> waspinator: is it getting late by any chance? ;)
[00:44] <hehateme> what is Xlib/Xfree86?
[00:45] <Cyber_Akuma> Installing Ubuntu to a usb drive right now... though I want to know what would be the best way to install 3rd party drivers since i've never done it before, especially Nvidia's
[00:45] <Cyber_Akuma> I assume since nvidia's drivers are binaries they won't be avaliable in teh reposotories
[00:45] <waspinator> keelG, unfortunately it's not so I can't blame it on that. guess I am tired though. thanks for your help
[00:47] <dbrom> hello all. question: I would like to compress my files and use as little space as I can. I am using tar at the moment but when I use tar.gz I have been told that there is a change that i can loose data ... whats my options
[00:47] <escott> dbrom, tar doesnt compress and no
[00:47] <josesierra> Hello... I have a recurring issue that I hope someone can help me troubleshoot.
[00:47] <keelG> tar is a container, and doesn't compress
[00:47] <dbrom> Cyber_Akuma: : are you using a gui
[00:47] <josesierra> My connection to the internet is intermittent.  Every couple of minutes it stops loading pages or connecting...
[00:48] <josesierra> then after a few seconds it reconnects
[00:48] <josesierra> well, more like thirty seconds
[00:48] <dbrom> when I make a tar ball its not compressed
[00:48] <josesierra> I'm using wireless right now, but it happens even if the connection is wired...
[00:48] <keelG> josesierra: does it happen on another machine as well?
[00:48] <josesierra> it's super annoying, and it happens all the dang time.
[00:49] <escott> dbrom, usually when someone says tarball they mean a tar.gz/tgz file which is compressed but a plain tar archive is not compressed
[00:49] <josesierra> keelG, I have several machines on this network.  It happens on my laptop as well (ubuntu) but it doesn't happen on the two windows machines on the network
[00:49] <josesierra> the two windows machines, one is wired and one is wireless, and they don't have any issues (aside from being windows, of course)
[00:50] <keelG> josesierra: does the network disconnect if you run ping to 8.8.8.8 i.e.?
[00:50] <josesierra> my other ubuntu laptop has the same issue but I've only tried connecting via wireless.
[00:51] <josesierra> keelG, lemme check
[00:51] <keelG> josesierra: do you see the network reconnecting in the top panel?
[00:51] <josesierra> keelG, negative.  there's no visual indication of the issue.
[00:52] <keelG> josesierra: run the ping
[00:52] <josesierra> keelG, just pinged 8.8.8.8 and it's pinging pretty consistently at 30-40ms... with a bump to 160ms once in a while
[00:52] <keelG> but no disconnects?
[00:52] <josesierra> negative
[00:52] <keelG> are you using google chrome or chromium browsers by any chance?
[00:53] <josesierra> yes I am...
[00:53] <Jpmh> usually when I install from my usb stick it offers me the choice of install side-by-side with Windoze - on Compaqs it does not - is this because they set the partition table too small?
[00:53] <josesierra> chrome
[00:53] <josesierra> I have the issue with FF as well though...?
[00:53] <keelG> josesierra: I would guess its a DNS relates issue or an issue with dnsmasq
[00:53] <josesierra> (that was my first attempt at troubleshooting...)
[00:53] <escott> Jpmh, a lot of laptops are shipping these days with 4 primary partitions. you need to convert one to extended or delete one
[00:54] <josesierra> keelG, how can I fix it?
[00:54] <keelG> josesierra: are you using a local DNS server?
[00:55] <josesierra> keelG, not that I know of... I mean, no, I don't have a DNS running at my house
[00:55] <keelG> josesierra: check your DNS settings and try changing them to another knowgood
[00:55] <Jpmh> escott: that's what I suspected - do not really want to delete one - how can I convert one to an extended one?
[00:55] <Jpmh> escott: actually is there any way I can re-partition without damaging what is on there?
[00:56] <escott> Jpmh, yes. the easiest way is probably to install gdisk and then convert to gpt and then convert back to msdos
[00:56] <keelG> josesierra: if that still fails, we can try to disable dnsmasq
[00:56] <josesierra> keelG I hate to be this noobtastic, but I have no idea how to do that.  Wireless settings?
[00:56] <Jpmh> escott: can you point me at some instructions for beginners on that - I am linux competant but this is all new to me
[00:57] <keelG> josesierra: yes :) http://askubuntu.com/questions/2321/what-is-the-proper-way-to-change-the-dns-ip
[00:57] <josesierra> keelG: thank you!  attempting now...
[00:57] <escott> Jpmh, i dont know of any written instructions for this. it doesnt really matter what you do to the partition table as long as your end result has the partitions starting and ending at the same LBA
[00:58] <snow_> its your router thats the blame, check its settings
[00:58] <hanlond> #ubuntu-server
[00:59] <Jpmh> escott: what tool would I use to creat a new partition table then with more partitions - or for that matter to change one to an extended one.  If I change one to extended will Windoze object?
[00:59] <josesierra> keelG... I'm not sure what DNS to set it to?  Should I run DNS locally...?
[00:59] <escott> Jpmh, you can use whatever you want. parted, gdisk, sfdisk, gparted
[00:59] <keelG> josesierra: set it to 8.8.8.8 for testing (googles DNS)
[00:59] <escott> Jpmh, whatever you are comfortable with
[01:00] <josesierra> keelg: roger
[01:00] <Jpmh> escott: ty so much - I am comfortable with parted - but if I convert one of the existing partitions will Windoze complain?
[01:01] <escott> Jpmh, i dont think so but i dont know much about windows. i think it doesnt like to boot its main partition on an extended partition
[01:01] <keelG> Jpmh: Windoze just reads the partition table and displays your drives :)
[01:01] <Jpmh> escott: ty - I will make the "recovery" partition extended then
[01:02] <keelG> Jpmh: Unless something goes wrong that is ;)
[01:02] <escott> Jpmh, that would probably defeat the purpose of the partition
[01:02] <Jpmh> keelG: I want to do a side-by-side for someone who I think will change to ubuntu but dare not take away windoze immediately
[01:03] <escott> Jpmh, just give them a usb live system
[01:03] <escott> Jpmh, of setup a virtualbox system
[01:03] <keelG> that shouldn't be a problem - however I must admit I don't know what will happen if you move or change the recovery partition or if even grub is capable of detecting and adding a boot entry to this
[01:03] <josesierra> keelG wierdly enough, it seems to be working pretty darned good right now... no drops so far, and I would've had several drops in this amount of time
[01:04] <josesierra> and fast.  way faster than it was.
[01:04] <snow_> @jpmh; I am thinging that rezising is the only safest repartitioning you can do, but i think if you're talking about repartitioning that there is no way to test it out other that have a back up set else where for safety
[01:04] <josesierra> keelG thank you!!!
[01:04] <Jpmh> escott: the live usb is just too slow on a low-end compaq and the same thing for a virtual box - this is one of the reasons he should be using ubuntu
[01:05] <keelG> josesierra: np :) I dont know what is wrong in your network, that would cause this to be a problem only on your ubuntu boxes and not affect windows though
[01:05] <escott> Jpmh, i dont know why the liveusb would be much slower
[01:05] <Jpmh> escott: I occasionally run off the live usb - it is VERY slow compared to a real disk
[01:06] <hplc> the server version of ubuntu, how is bind set by default? to serve localhost? localdomain? or not set at all?
[01:06] <snow_> it's your usb port maybe
[01:06] <keelG> Jpmh: flashdrives have limitations in read IO, also if its old and used that could cause it to be slower than "normal"
[01:06] <Jpmh> snow_: I don't think so - the system even tells you that to run full speed install to hard disk
[01:07] <keelG> Jpmh: limitations in IO = drive vary in speeds :)
[01:07] <escott> Jpmh, that would be slow to start programs and boot, but it should be the same speed to run programs, unless you are concerned about boot performance
[01:07] <Jpmh> keelG: I think it may be the squashfs - but eitherway - him running that way is not the way to change him
[01:08] <Jpmh> escott: I agree - and it is slow boot and slow load of programs that I see - so we are on the same track
[01:08] <pravuz> Hey! Anyone else having issues with nvidia powermizer? Mine is on adaptive, but stuck on the highest performance level. my gpu is burning up:S
[01:09] <keelG> Jpmh: Are you comfortable with converting to GPT and UEFI booting? Then you can just make all partitions primary. However this might still break the MS recovery partition
[01:10] <Jpmh> keelG: I have absolutely no idea about GPT or UEFI - so probably no
[01:10] <escott> keelG, i dont think windows will boot if you convert
[01:10] <keelG> escott: point taken, dont listen to me Jpmh
[01:11] <keelG> or well
[01:11] <JPeterson> how do i change the `dpkg -l`desired state from purge to insatlled?
[01:11] <Jpmh> keelG: ty - and I appreciate the laugh I got from you telling me to igmore YOU
[01:11] <escott> keelG, that said converting to gpt and back was the way i first suggested keelG attack the problem its very easy to do
[01:12] <keelG> escott: I am actually almost certain windows doesnt care.. Since its GRUBs job to kick windows into starting up at that part of the boot process
[01:12] <allan_> does anyone know if Ubuntu is designed to properly take advantage of quad+ core processors?
[01:12] <Cyber_Akuma> I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu, and I dunno if this is normal or not, but it can't seem to tell when I am clicking on a window that is over another window. If I click an option for example and it opens a window, I can't click on anything in that window, it keeps clicking on the items that are beind that window
[01:13] <escott> keelG, no windows absolutely cares. its completely different
[01:13] <keelG> escott: also win7 is HAL independent, and I dont think its even changed, other than ACPI calls
[01:13] <escott> allan_, only version 2.0+
[01:13] <linuxman44> Cyber_Akuma, lol
[01:13] <linuxman44> bizzare stuff
[01:13] <allan_> >.> so 12.10 would be able to then?
[01:13] <keelG> escott: I wish I could put it to the test! :)
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma> Look, no need to laugh, I haven't used ubuntu in a while
[01:13] <Cyber_Akuma> is that default behavior?
[01:14] <escott> keelG, the boot entry points for the kernel are completely different
[01:14] <Cyber_Akuma> it seems to lock mouse input to a certain window
[01:14] <Cyber_Akuma> and dosen't let me click on anything else
[01:14] <keelG> escott: arent those handled by GRUB?
[01:14] <felipe_Brz> i've downloaded some firmware in an attempt to solve a wireless card problem. Other than copying the .fw files into /lib/firmware/brcm, is there anything else I need to do in order to activate it????
[01:14] <Cyber_Akuma> even the installer did this
[01:14] <escott> keelG, http://gitorious.org/tianocore_uefi_duet_builds/pages/Windows_x64_BIOS_to_UEFI
[01:16] <Cyber_Akuma> Is this a feature of the new UI or no?
[01:16] <waver> Hello all!
[01:16] <Jpmh> keelG:  and escott  ty - i have a spare machine I will test on
[01:17] <keelG> escott: I agree, from what you just linked me - it would break Windows boot - however it would be because it would require ACHI driver for booting :)
[01:17] <keelG> escott: rest of the changes they talk about are BCD, which are irrelevant since we would be using GRUB in this scenario
[01:18] <escott> keelG, trust me it wont work
[01:18] <waver> I am having some odd random freezing on my Ubuntu 12.04.1 box
[01:18] <waver> looking at syslog I don't see anything that would explain why it is freezing
[01:18] <waver> wondered if I might get some other eyes on it
[01:19] <keelG> escott: I do beleive you :)
[01:20] <keelG> waver: server/desktop is other ttys responding?
[01:20] <waver> desktop but I am running it headless as a server
[01:21] <waver> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=H3ELxUUS
[01:21] <waver> you can see looking at that chunk of syslog it freezes at the 19:39:01 point
[01:21] <waver> this keeps happening
[01:21] <keelG> waver: is that your tail?
[01:21] <waver> that is a chunk from syslog yes
[01:22] <waver> every time it has frozen, networking stops working etc, I reboot and it  comes back up
[01:22] <keelG> waver: do you have any fatal errors or such in dmesg?
[01:23] <waver> hmm don't believe so let me see
[01:23] <Jpmh> escott: ok - i have converted a test system using gdisk - added a partition - how do i convert back?
[01:23] <keelG> waver: reboot - I guess you hard boot it, by powering it on?
[01:23] <waver> yea :-\
[01:23] <escott> Jpmh, gdisk can convert both ways, one of the menu options will let you convert to and from gpt
[01:24] <escott> Jpmh, when you convert back just ask that gpt setup one of the partitions inside an extended
[01:24] <Jpmh> escott: I hit help and do not see it?
[01:24] <waver> hmm keelG nothing in dmesg
[01:25] <keelG> waver: is it logged into the desktop?
[01:25] <waver> one change that I made to the server and this started happening was.... i replaced a 2TB WD Caviar Green with a 3TB Caviar Green
[01:25] <waver> I can login to the desktop via vnc
[01:25] <escott> Jpmh, probably under the recovery/transformation options "r"
[01:25] <keelG> waver: hmm, new hardware
[01:25] <waver> yea
[01:26] <Jpmh> escott: ty - let me look there
[01:26] <waver> the drive seems to be working fine but.... this odd freezing... hmmmm
[01:26] <waver> I've got a PCI SATA Controller, thinking about changing to that... wondering if it is SATA Controller related... it is an older mobo
[01:27] <keelG> waver: try running a long test on the disk (will take atleast 24hours)  with either smartctl or gsmartcontrol (one is cli other is gui, but does the exact same thing).
[01:27] <waver> ah yea hmm
[01:28] <keelG> waver: oh lol, forgot it is locking up - well, boot a liveCD. Then you might see if its related to other hardware problems :)
[01:28] <waver> yea... thinking I might have to put the video card in and hook it up
[01:28] <waver> is really a bummer :-\
[01:29] <keelG> waver: these kinda things usually are ;/
[01:29] <damselfly9> waver; if you kept the original drive it was coopied from, then you might be able to llf it and check for bad sectors
[01:29] <waver> hmmm bad sectors on the new drive?
[01:30] <damselfly9> it happens
[01:30] <damselfly9> quality control isn't too good these days
[01:30] <keelG> waver: I have tried more than once, when I ran a smartctl on a new drive - only to find out, it wasnt new at all
[01:30] <waver> yea
[01:31] <waver> I actually did scan the drive using WD Diag util long tst
[01:31] <damselfly9> besides, all drives have bad sectors, it's just a question of whether they've been remapped
[01:31] <waver> tests showed the drive was ok
[01:31] <waver> hmm
[01:32] <damselfly9> on a scsi drive, it can actually tell you how many were bad from the factory
[01:32] <keelG> All drives still have these two tables, but I guess its vendor specifik how and if you can access both of these
[01:33] <keelG> cant recall if smartctl shows them
[01:35] <keelG> yea P-List and G-List: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_sector
[01:36] <damselfly9> still, I've had drives with bad sectors and it didn't instantly lock up the whole machine
[01:36] <keelG> that is true! However, I merely suggested him to boot a liveCD and test the disk, since he recently had it replaced :)
[01:37] <damselfly9> maybe trying the pci sata card waver mentioned?
[01:38] <waver> yup
[01:38] <waver> if it freezes again
[01:38] <waver> I am going to do that
[01:38] <keelG> When did it freeze?
[01:38] <keelG> @Live?
[01:38] <waver> hmm it has just randomly been freezing
[01:38] <waver> tailing syslog I just see something similar to what I sent via pastebin
[01:39] <damselfly9> waver, do you think there is any chance you might have accidently unseated some memory while changing the hdd?
[01:39] <keelG> or anything else for that matter :P
[01:41] <waver> hmmm damselfly9 that is possible
[01:41] <waver> perhaps the RAM isn't in all the way ;-) heh
[01:41] <waver> I will check it all
[01:41] <waver> I can say that all of the ram is showing up properly tho
[01:42] <keelG> Well, if you boot a LiveCD/USB the unseated memory would def. show as well ;)
[01:42] <Physicist> Hello fellas! Any device about install Steam on BackTrack 5 r3? I tried every little thing (almost probrably), but, appear that the archtecture is fail!!
[01:42] <damselfly9> I had some loose memory once. It survived 5 passes on memtest and then went crazy
[01:42] <waver> heh
[01:42] <keelG> Physicist: you know that BT5r3 is based on Ubuntu 10.04 right?
[01:43] <Physicist> Yes! And i'm doind a upgrading to 12.04..
[01:44] <keelG> Physicist: Then you might not experience any issues installing, but I am merely guessing ;)
[01:44] <Physicist> So keel G, can you say how can I do it?
[01:45] <manamana> is this as bad as it looks? http://i.imgur.com/9SPEGL4.jpg (HD failing SMART test)
[01:46] <Physicist> What mean?
[01:46] <damselfly9> yeah, failing a smart test is bad
[01:46] <escott> manamana, its worse than it loos
[01:46] <escott> looks
[01:46] <keelG> I wouldnt store my family vacation pictures on that drive, no
[01:46] <manamana> oh shit
[01:46] <damselfly9> time for backups
[01:47] <escott> keelG, its perfectly safe for him to take that disk out and stack printed photos on top of it.
[01:47] <keelG> escott: true, its perfectly safe as a paperwieght ;)
[01:47] <Physicist> Fellas, can I install Steam on Backtrack?
[01:47] <damselfly9> Physicist; didn't you say it didn't work?
[01:48] <keelG> I would think you would experience a lot of issues on a 10.04 based ubuntu distro - however maybe if you upgrade to 12.04, why dont you try? :)
[01:48] <manamana> luckily I just got a new 1 TB, does it still make sense to keep using the one who failed the test as backup?
[01:48] <escott> manamana, no its trash
[01:48] <manamana> :(
[01:48] <waver> manamana: how old is it?
[01:48] <waver> warranty replace?
[01:48] <Physicist> I just have finish upgrading to the 12.04 base, still cannot, but, maybe have one solution. Wine?
[01:48] <escott> manamana, disk failure isn't imminent. disk failure already occured
[01:48] <manamana> waver: less than a year
[01:48] <damselfly9> manamana; I would trust a drive that's ready to fail at any moment for backups
[01:49] <waver> warranty replace that thing!
[01:49] <waver> done
[01:49] <keelG> Physicist: if you have Steam in .deb format, you wont need wine
[01:49] <escott> manamana, always stress test new disks when you get them. don't just assume its good because its new
[01:49] <Physicist> I knoe keel G, remember of the i386 failure?
[01:49] <keelG> always stress test any electronics component when you just get it
[01:50] <keelG> well, maybe its because you are running 32bit and its 64bit or vice verse
[01:51] <Physicist> No, I have AMD 64 - a great machine, and this happened anway!
[01:51] <keelG> more on the "stress test subject" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn-in
[01:52] <Physicist> kell G: my machine is 64bit, why that?
[01:52] <damselfly9> waver; does your machine have more than one sata controller (mine has two different ones, so I thought I'd ask)
[01:52] <waver> hmm damselfly9 I checked that
[01:52] <waver> just intel here
[01:52] <waver> older mobo can see the controllers here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030
[01:53] <waver> controller*
[01:53] <damselfly9> ok. mine has two, one is pci-locked and the other isn't
[01:53] <keelG> waver: what damselfly9 just said got me thinking, its not one of these motherboards with a broken controller from intel?
[01:53] <keelG> ah p35
[01:53] <keelG> nvm
[01:53] <waver> oohhh hmm it is the Abit IP35 Pro
[01:53] <waver> mhm
[01:53] <waver> old old old
[01:53] <waver> :)
[01:53] <keelG> yea
[01:53] <waver> thinking of doing a rebuild
[01:53] <waver> but still squeezing some juice out of this one
[01:54] <damselfly9> a broken sata controller might tend to freeze things up
[01:54] <keelG> Try the LiveCD/USB first and check the disk meanwhile you test if crashes :)
[01:54] <waver> what's interesting is.... this seems to have just presented itself since adding this 3TB drive
[01:54] <waver> has been running with many 2TB drives for a long time
[01:54] <waver> no prob at all
[01:54] <Physicist> Bye guys! Thank a lot for nothing!
[01:54] <keelG> np
[01:55] <keelG> Hmmmmmmmm
[01:55] <keelG> Btw
[01:55] <keelG> How large is the parition?
[01:55] <waver> full drive umm 2.7TB
[01:55] <keelG> and you are using MBR?
[01:56] <keelG> ofc
[01:56] <keelG> hm
[01:56] <waver> GPT
[01:56] <damselfly9> if it's an old motherboard, it might have the old bios limitation of 2tb disks
[01:56] <keelG> narh
[01:56] <waver> have to for more than 2TB
[01:56] <keelG> exactly
[01:56] <escott> keelG, presumably he is using mbr+gpt
[01:56] <waver> yea
[01:56] <keelG> or that yes
[01:56] <waver> I believe just GPT but can't say for sure, used gparted
[01:57] <keelG> oh well, nvm then
[01:57] <keelG> Id still go with the liveCD test :)
[01:58] <waver> cool gotcha keelG
[01:58] <escott> waver, also do a ram test
[01:58] <moon`> you can't install a 64bit version of ubuntu on a 32 bit system yeah?  It just wouldn't run?
[01:58] <waver> gotcha, is Ram test something I can do while booted or do I need to boot something to test it
[01:58] <keelG> on a 32bit CPU? No
[01:58] <escott> moon`, correct. the other way around yes
[01:58] <waver> 64bit
[01:58] <moon`> I installed ubuntu on the wife's laptop off of a livecd I had and it's a 64 bit version that installed but I didn't realize her laptop had a 64 bit cpu
[01:59] <escott> waver, the livecd has a ram test option during boot
[01:59] <waver> ah yes
[01:59] <keelG> moon: You can install 32bit ubuntu on a 64bit CPU, np :)
[02:00] <keelG> moon : Sorry, I am obviously having problems reading :)
[02:01] <Wug> Would anyone by any chance know a command I could use to force reconfigure chromium-browser and all of its dependencies?
[02:05] <gormanator> hey everyone...kind of a newbie to ubuntu...exploring multitouch options. By default i can do two finger scrolling, but I was looking for a little more customiziablity. It doesn't seem like my current touchpad is supported by touchegg, a solution I tried earlier
[02:11] <keelG> Anyone know the accuracy of power usage of devices estimated by powertop?
[02:13] <jarray52> After running "sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-quantal" on Ubuntu 12.04, Virtualbox no longer works. I get the error message telling me to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup. However, vboxdrv setup doesn't exist in /etc/init.d. Any suggestions?
[02:16] <keelG> jarray52: Have you checked this out? I am not certain if its your exact issue:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/205154/virtualbox-etc-init-d-vboxdrv-setup-issue
[02:16] <jarray52> keelG: Thanks.
[02:18] <dollarbang1> can someone tell me how to open a terminal session under Ubuntu desktop, thanks.
[02:18] <escott> dollarbang, ctrl-alt-t
[02:18] <keelG> CTRL+ALT+F[1-7] ?
[02:18] <keelG> if you mean another tty :)
[02:19] <xrs> or you could search in the launcher menu for terminal
[02:19] <dollarbang1> (*&^&*%&^*(&&(*)(&(*)&&^%&^&$^&%^ can't be that dang easy....thanks very much, the RTFM wasn't much help.
[02:19] <escott> dollarbang, just hit the window key and start typing the keywords is the other way to start applications
[02:19] <keelG> Hold down the win...
[02:19] <keelG> what escott said :D
[02:20] <keelG> oh actually
[02:20] <keelG> if you hold down the Windows key, you should see a little cheat sheet for shortcuts as well
[02:21] <damselfly9> Physicist; welcome back
[02:21] <philsf> isn't empthy supposed to open new incoming messages automatically, like, say, pidgin or any other IM app?
[02:22] <keelG> philsf: you should have a notification in the indicator @top panel
[02:22] <Physicist> Hello fellas! My backtrack 5 r3 have one notification of one newest update - ubuntu 1.04. Should I upgrade?
[02:22] <jarray52> keelG: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms fails
[02:22] <Physicist> thanks damselffly!
[02:23] <damselfly9> Physicist; I don't know, 1.04 is pretty old
[02:23] <philsf> keelG, I get the notification, and can open the window (when it doesn't crash) from the message indicator menu. But I'd really like if the window opened automatically
[02:23] <AGreyCrane> So... mount /dev/vdb1 /mnt/test  -  EXT4-fs (vdb1): unable to read superblock  end_request: I/O error, dev vdb, sector 2050   and yet fsck -t ext4 /dev/vdb1 yeids : /dev/vdb1: clean, 11/2097152 files, 176658/8388352 blocks  any suggestions?
[02:23] <xrs> Physicist,  if its not security related, i wouldnt
[02:23] <xrs> then again if you do break functionality its easy to make a new backtrack
[02:23] <keelG> AGreyCrane: stupid question here: vdb1 is that like lvm?
[02:24] <Physicist> danselfly9: I know. Its a security yeah, of the system to upgrade!
[02:24] <AGreyCrane> keelG: Its the virtio (KVM) disk
[02:24] <subb1> HI guys.
[02:24] <keelG> oooooh
[02:25] <nizor> Hey
[02:25] <virusuy> howdy yall !
[02:25] <escott> AGreyCrane, what about not telling fsck the filesystem type or telling mount the filesystem type
[02:26] <nizor> Need help on the connection to wireless network......passworded network.....pls
[02:26] <subb1> I use ubuntu one service. But each time I add files to ubuntuone synced folder, I'll have to do System > Preferences > Ubuntuone , the click 'Connect' to start the sync. How to automate this? ie when a change is made to the folder, automatically it should get synced.
[02:26] <damselfly9> Physicist; or did you mean 11.04? that would only be 2 years old
[02:26] <xrs> nizor,  what is the problem you are having?
[02:26] <jarray52> keelG: http://dpaste.org/VEGBQ/
[02:27] <subb1> I'm using Lucid Installation of Ubuntu
[02:27] <nizor> Xrs connecting to a password protected wireless network
[02:27] <damselfly9> Physicist; 11.04 Natty Narwhal is a classic
[02:28] <AGreyCrane> escott: fsck still runs clean. mount still fails
[02:28] <Physicist> Appeared a security notification system itself, reporting a new version to update, 12.04 LTS - but I do not know if my system will continue backtrack! I am using the BT 5 r3. Its new!
[02:28] <keelG> Try and install it from here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[02:28] <keelG> @ jarray52
[02:28] <escott> AGreyCrane, how about reading sector 2050 with dd?
[02:29] <damselfly9> Physicist; 12.04 is reasonably new
[02:29] <damselfly9> Physicist; people report less problems with 12.04 than with 12.10
[02:31] <Physicist> damselfly9: I know! I guess I will try upgrade and see what happened! But do you understand that I am using the newest backtrack? And this is a update from  the system not myself?
[02:31] <ongandrew> hi everyone
[02:31] <AGreyCrane> escott: reads fine, no error
[02:31] <escott> AGreyCrane, weird
[02:31] <keelG> AGreyCrane: im curious, are you trying to mount a kvm disk, to your host machine?
[02:32] <damselfly9> Physicist; updates are dangerous. clean installs are better
[02:32] <AGreyCrane> keelG: no, kvm disk to guest machine
[02:32] <ongandrew> i got some problem can you guys help me out
[02:32] <AGreyCrane> escott: command I ran was
[02:32] <Physicist> But the BT 5 r3 is the new version!
[02:32] <AGreyCrane> escott: sorry for the wasted line there: dd if=/dev/vdb1 of=/dev/null skip=2050 count=1 bs=512
[02:32] <ongandrew> I'm trying to install a 64 bits ubuntu desktop 12.10 to my new asus  g75vw from a dvd. Everything worked slowly but fine until it finished, then the  installation program prompted me to restart.I clicked restart button  after which the computer freezes and finally I have to power it off.
[02:33] <Physicist> Show a freaky window want update itself!
[02:33] <AGreyCrane> keelG: and fwiw, I have vda1 mounted fine (vda is raw on nfs, vdb is lvm on iscsi)
[02:33] <ongandrew> can anyone help me with that
[02:33] <damselfly9> Physicist; I don't know backtrack (I can't try every distro)
[02:33] <wb4bbc> Ongandrew , I have that same machine are you trying to installit along side with windows ?
[02:34] <ongandrew> nope
[02:34] <ongandrew> just ubuntu
[02:34] <krux> did you turn it on >?
[02:34] <damselfly9> Physicist; if you don't want to update, can you say no?
[02:35] <wb4bbc> Hmmmm, I have heard that some people have disabled the UEFI and that helped just a idea
[02:35] <genio_> يالبى الأوبنتو <3 :D
[02:35] <ongandrew> UEFI? sorry just new to ubuntu just want to try out a new os so i have 0 idea
[02:35] <Physicist> BT is being updated based on ubuntu as ubuntu or as BT? This question is!
[02:36] <xangua> !backtrack | Physicist
[02:36] <escott> ongandrew, what version of windows did this come with?
[02:36] <wb4bbc> windows7
[02:36] <ongandrew> yup
[02:36] <AGreyCrane> escott, keelG: just tried with the start on 4096 same issue ( this time block 4098 ) strange
[02:36] <ongandrew> windows 7 basic
[02:36] <wb4bbc> Basic on  ROG GW75 ?
[02:37] <Physicist> Thank you fellas! Good day!!
[02:37] <escott> ongandrew, can you tell how far the boot gets? does ubuntu get loaded at all? does grub load?
[02:38] <ongandrew> after installing ubuntu it just says restart now or continue testing ubuntu right i clicked on the restart now then after that it would eject the cd and lets you press enter after pressing enter nothing happened
[02:38] <keelG> AGreyCrane: I must admit, I am way out of depth here - I have limited experience with iscsi and hardly any with LVM ,7
[02:38] <keelG> AGreyCrane: the only experience I had with LVM was that I couldn't get it to mount either :P
[02:38] <keelG> (crashed drive)
[02:38] <wb4bbc> DO a search on ROG website there is a whole thread on what you need to do
[02:40] <ongandrew> @wb4bbc you tanking to me?
[02:40] <wb4bbc> Yes
[02:40] <AGreyCrane> keelG: no worries, thanks for the input :) LVM is the underpining for the disk, but in the vm it just looks like a drive. I think it has something to do with advanced format (4k sector) drives. I'll figure it out
[02:40] <ongandrew> ROG?
[02:40] <wb4bbc> Republic of Gamers you do have one of those machines
[02:41] <kris_therrien> can anyone help me i cant connect to my remote mysql database from ubuntu
[02:41] <escott> ongandrew, nothing happened? time stopped? a tear in the fabric of the universe? how did you escape the singularity...
[02:42] <keelG> AGreyCrane: best of luck mate :)
[02:42] <ongandrew> i just pressed the power button to shut it down i have wait for about 30 mins but with no luck nothing happens just the ubuntu logo
[02:43] <escott> ongandrew, so after you power it back up you get the ubuntu logo for an extended time?>
[02:44] <ongandrew> nope after the reboot it goes on normally but it seems a little slow
[02:45] <ongandrew> after install the reboot screen just hanged and after i have restart my pc its all good i think but a bit slow
[02:45] <escott> ongandrew, so your complaint is what exactly? that the installer wasnt able to get the cpu to reboot?
[02:46] <escott> ongandrew, thats an annoyance but nothing to worry about. just means you have to manually powercycle the system or figure out the proper ACPI fixups to get reboot/halt to work correctly
[02:47] <damselfly9> it's terrible needing to press the power button :(
[02:47] <keelG> Good thing you wont need to reboot with Linux!!!!!!111one
[02:47] <ongandrew> how do i do that and aren't there files missing? caus it needed to restart thought there might be something missing through the installation process
[02:47] <keelG> did you see what I did there?
[02:48] <Cyber_Akuma> Well..... took me all of about 30 minutes to trash my Ubuntu installation
[02:48] <Cyber_Akuma> lovely
[02:48] <escott> ongandrew, x86 has never had a particularly well defined way to halt/reboot the system from software
[02:48] <ongandrew> you guys use ubuntu also right
[02:48] <ongandrew> i use x64
[02:49] <kris_therrien> can anyone help me i cant connect to my remote mysql database from ubuntu
[02:49] <damselfly9> ongandrew; yes, but I don't mind hitting the power button
[02:49] <escott> ongandrew, there are a bunch of strange techniques that may have different results on different systems. you'll probably want to look for instructions on selecting the write ACPI settings for your particular laptop anyways
[02:49] <ongandrew> won't that dmg your computer? i mean always force shut downing your computer like on windows your system could be dmg or corrupted
[02:50] <keelG> only if the OS is still running
[02:50] <escott> ongandrew, if you wait until it has halted and the OS isn't doing anything its fine
[02:50] <damselfly9> ongandrew; no, I shutdown then press the power button
[02:50] <Blacklite_> how do i remove this annoying bouncing icon when I start an app in kubuntu 12.04?
[02:50] <ongandrew> o ok
[02:50] <VictorVE> Ah! The magic of IRC
[02:50] <keelG> <3
[02:51] <ongandrew> whats the best stable verion of linux that is good for beginers like me
[02:51] <Cyber_Akuma> ... I told ubuntu to install to a usb flashdrive AND to install the bootloader to it
[02:51] <ongandrew> have 0 knowledge from linux
[02:51] <Cyber_Akuma> why did it still trash my windows bootloader?
[02:51] <escott> ongandrew, this is the ubuntu channel... so we will usually suggest that you start with gentoo :-P
[02:51] <damselfly9> ongandrew; free or non-free?
[02:51] <keelG> Cyber_Akuma: cause you need to install GRUB in its place?
[02:51] <Blacklite_> escott: lol
[02:52] <VictorVE> ongandrew, go with Ubuntu, the regular one
[02:52] <VictorVE> then specialize
[02:52] <Cyber_Akuma> keelG: Again, I installed the bootloader to the usb flashdrive
[02:52] <Blacklite_> I need help
[02:52] <keelG> escott: please stop, I cant bare to laugh so hard at this hour! ^_^
[02:52] <damselfly9> ongandrew; if you got the money to spend, RedHat or Suse
[02:52] <Blacklite_> HALP
[02:52] <Blacklite_> PLZZZZZ
[02:52] <VictorVE> Zero knowledge of linux = default one :P
[02:52] <ongandrew> regular one? which version
[02:53] <keelG> Cyber_Akuma: sorry mate, I just answered your last senteance :)
[02:53] <VictorVE> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[02:53] <escott> ongandrew, regular ubuntu desktop would be the standard recommendation unless you have a specific desire/hardware limitation
[02:53] <Cyber_Akuma> I decided to try out ubuntu by installing it to a usb flashdrive... it couldne't focus on the right window to save it's life, got corruted after a reboot, and now screwed up my windows bootloader...
[02:53] <Cyber_Akuma> I think Linux hates me..
[02:53] <VictorVE> For long-term support,
[02:53] <VictorVE> choose Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:54] <escott> ongandrew, 12.10 if you want to upgrade in 3 months, 12.04 if you dont
[02:54] <Blacklite_> FFS GUISE!!!
[02:54] <VictorVE> Cyber, Linux doesn't hate :)
[02:54] <keelG> Yea Guise stop harrasing Blacklite_!
[02:54] <Blacklite_> how do I remove the bouncing icon in KUBUNTU PRECISE
[02:54] <ongandrew> whats the diff of 12.04 and 12.1
[02:55] <Cyber_Akuma> VictorVE: First time I ever tried a livecd it kernel paniced on boot... a livecd! Granted, that was Knoppix years ago...
[02:55] <escott> !lts | ongandrew
[02:55] <Cyber_Akuma> but yeah, I have NEVER had much success with linux. I thought to try again with ubuntu... it just wrecked everything >.<
[02:55] <escott> !eol | ongandrew
[02:55] <VictorVE> ongandrew: 12.04 = no reinstall in years
[02:55] <VictorVE> 12.10 = reinstall in months
[02:55] <keelG> Blacklite_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+I+remove+the+bouncing+icon+in+KUBUNTU+PRECISE
[02:55] <VictorVE> your pick!
[02:56] <jarray52> keelG: Thanks again. That worked like a charm. I now have virtual box running on Ubuntu 12.04 with the 12.10 kernel.
[02:56] <ongandrew> ok ok i think am gonna go with 12.04 thanks everyone
[02:56] <escott> ongandrew, you dont have to reinstall, but you would have to upgrade which replaces all the software on the system with newer versions
[02:56] <keelG> jarray52: no probs mate! good to hear you're up and running
[02:56] <usr13> ongandrew: You mean 12.04 and 12.10  Well, the first obvious difference is that they are 6 months apart. Second, and most important, 12.04 is LTS and 12.10 is not.
[02:56] <AGreyCrane> keelG: FYI worked around it for the moment by enableing write-through caching on the disk in KVM. Something about qemu not likeing 4k sector disks in cache none mode
[02:56] <VictorVE> yes 12.04 = GOOD CHOICE!
[02:56] <damselfly9> Cyber_Akuma; strange, the pendrive shouldn't have overwritten window's boot loader
[02:56] <Blacklite_> keelsG: like I haven't tried that already.
[02:56] <Cyber_Akuma> I know
[02:56] <livefree424_> I'm following the Ubuntu app tutorial for the currency converter and i followed all the steps but instead of a currency converter all my code displays is a HELLO WORLD any ideas...here is my code http://pastebin.com/46U8hsAq
[02:56] <ongandrew> another thing about the difference on bought the version i mean is there interface diff or something like that
[02:57] <Cyber_Akuma> thats why I am so surprised this happened
[02:57] <VictorVE> You are a newcomer so probably would appreciate the larger life-span
[02:57] <Cyber_Akuma> I just wanted a removable install of linux I could plug into the pc when I needed
[02:57] <keelG> AGreyCrane: sounds like some advanced konfu! You must teach me some time ;)
[02:57] <Cyber_Akuma> Not only could I not get it to work, but it for some reason overwrote the windows bootloader
[02:57] <escott> AGreyCrane, thats a bit scary
[02:57] <damselfly9> Cyber_Akuma; what did it over-write it with?
[02:58] <keelG> Cyber_Akuma: do you have Linux installed as well on the machine with Windows?
[02:58] <Cyber_Akuma> keelG: windows is on an internal hdd, ubuntu was installed on an external usb flashdrive
[02:58] <Cyber_Akuma> And I set the bootloader to isntall to the falshdrive when I installed ubuntu
[02:58] <livefree424_> Cyber_Akuma: you can go to ubuntu.com and use the windows installer and its like running a program but gives you ubuntu os
[02:58] <keelG> Cyber_Akuma: how did you install?
[02:59] <escott> Cyber_Akuma, thats not always supported
[02:59] <Cyber_Akuma> livefree424_: I prefer to run it native
[02:59] <AGreyCrane> escott: yeah, working of an old bug report from 2010, but the suggested work around still worked o.O https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608548
[02:59] <WarNinJa> hello everyone, can someone please tell me how to connect to an undernet server please? i do not know the address to get there
[02:59] <mgdunn> has anyone had issue during installation, whether you turn nomodeset or apci=off on or not.  Computer is a Dell XPS15z if that helps. I've seen it has had a bunch of issues
[02:59] <Cyber_Akuma> keelG: booted the livecd, chose to manually configure the install path, formatted my usb drive as ext4 and set it's mount point as "/", then set the bootloader to install to the flashdrive
[02:59] <gormanator> ey everyone...kind of a newbie to ubuntu...exploring multitouch options. By default i can do two finger scrolling, but I was looking for a little more customiziablity. It doesn't seem like my current touchpad is supported by touchegg, a solution I tried earlier
[03:00] <mgdunn> always get blank screen
[03:00] <Cyber_Akuma> ... barely that is, the mouse wasn't behaving
[03:00] <damselfly9> WarNinJa; us.undernet.org or eu.undernet.org (?)
[03:00] <Cyber_Akuma> still didn't even after it was installed
[03:00] <WarNinJa> damselfly9 thank you i will try, ill let you know if it fails thanks again
[03:02] <livefree424_> I'm following the Ubuntu app tutorial for the currency converter and i followed all the steps but instead of a currency converter all my code displays is a HELLO WORLD any ideas...here is my code http://pastebin.com/46U8hsAq
[03:02] <JonEdney> Is thjere a way to run the gnome shell on 12.10, but still be able to go back to unity if need be?  I am not familiar with the gnome interface and want to check it out
[03:02] <Cyber_Akuma> The mouse was never focusing on the right window, and attempting to install videocard drivers just made the whole isntall corrupt
[03:02] <escott> !gnome | JonathanD
[03:02] <escott> JonEdney, ^^^
[03:02] <escott> !gnome-shell | JonEdney
[03:03] <waver> thmmm ok it froze again
[03:03] <escott> JonEdney, apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:03] <waver> trying the PCI sata card
[03:03] <JonEdney> ty escott
[03:03] <waver> thinking this has to be related to the new 3TB drive
[03:03] <escott> JonEdney, the debian gnome-shell seems to work a lot better though
[03:04] <wector> Not think more do it
[03:04] <keelG> waver: my immediate attention is directed at the drive also, but needs more testing  before I could say anything with certanty ;(
[03:05] <waver> for sure appreciate you guys thinking through it with me
[03:05] <escott> waver, were you in AHCI mode before?
[03:05] <waver> just nice to bounce some ideas off of others :)
[03:05] <keelG> always glad to help :)
[03:05] <waver> I also checked to ensure all of the memory is seated properly
[03:05] <waver> hmm escott
[03:05] <waver> has been awhile since I've had a monitor hooked up to look at the bios on this box
[03:05] <escott> waver, (and are you in AHCI now)
[03:06] <waver> the sata could be set to I believe "IDE" mode
[03:06] <waver> not 100% sure on that though
[03:06] <waver> just seems like I remember something wonky like that
[03:06] <waver> I can hook up a monitor and look
[03:06] <escott> waver, that could be an issue with a 3tb disk (its going to have some crazy firmware to deal with fixing up logical vs physical sectors
[03:07] <waver> mmmm yea
[03:07] <keelG> Vendor-firmware-voodoo
[03:08] <ClientAlive> I need to use the linux command line on my brand new lappy (with winblows 8 on it). I'm having a difficult time getting it to boot the 64 bit desktop cd for 12.04. So far I have: disabled secure boot in bios, enabled legacy boot in bios, move the cd/dvd rom drive to the top of the list in both the legacy and uefi lists. Reboot ant it STILL boots into win 8.
[03:08] <ClientAlive> what do I do?
[03:08] <genio_> how i can play Minecraft on ubuntu guys ??????????????
[03:09] <escott> ClientAlive, if you change to legacy bios windows will be non-bootable
[03:09] <ClientAlive> It's booted now
[03:09] <ClientAlive> I made that change
[03:09] <ClientAlive> let me reboot and go into bios setting to verify
[03:09] <escott> ClientAlive, its clearly not taking. if it were then windows wouldn't boot
[03:09] <ClientAlive> ok
[03:09] <ClientAlive> I'll check
[03:10] <keelG> ClientAlive: It will mostlikely detect you have a EFI partition and boot UEFI - if you didnt have that present, it would fallback and boot legacy
[03:10] <damselfly9> does windows 8 absolutely require uefi?
[03:10] <escott> ClientAlive, the firmware is probably trying to be smart and ignoring your requests because it would make the system unbootable
[03:10] <mgdunn> Does anyone have any advice for my attempt at installing.  I have to turn nomodeset on or else the computer just turns off, if I turn that on and apci=off on I still eventually just get a blank screen.  My computer is a Dell XPS15z if that helps since I know it has had some issues.  Basically any attempt at install end in a blank screen
[03:10] <keelG> damselfly9: iirc yes
[03:11] <keelG> To be "Windows Certified" I know it _HAS_ to, but I don't if they allow some backwards compatability
[03:11] <mgdunn> tried from DVD and USB for both 12.04 and 12.10
[03:11] <keelG> mgdunn: dual gfx?
[03:12] <mgdunn> no
[03:12] <wector> I did it via 12.10 atall
[03:12] <somsip>      zxcbnnm
[03:13] <somsip> oops - vacuuming keyboard...
[03:13] <ClientAlive> ok. I'm looking at my bios settings, insyde bios (gag me), system configuration tab, boot order submenu, and the option entitled "Legacy Support" is <Enabled>, the option entitled "Secure Boot" is <Dissabled>
[03:13] <ClientAlive> at any rate what can I do to boot that live cd in this system?
[03:14] <escott> ClientAlive, you shouldnt have any trouble booting the install cd even in efi mode. i would verify you burned it correctly
[03:14] <ClientAlive> that is a possible problem
[03:14] <wector> Windows most die
[03:14] <keelG> I experienced trouble booting Ubuntu LiveUSBs in UEFI mode however :)
[03:14] <somsip> oops - vacuuming keyboard...
[03:15] <ClientAlive> it is the "amd 64" release and I'm running intel. I didn't think that should matter tho. Does it?
[03:15] <keelG> Nop
[03:15] <damselfly9> ClientAlive; what model intel cpu?
[03:15] <ClientAlive> sudo kvm-ok
[03:15] <ClientAlive> hang on
[03:15] <ClientAlive> sorry bout that
[03:16] <ClientAlive> http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&email_id=2436514&jumpid=in_r329_emailconfig  <- That's the beast
[03:16] <ClientAlive> that what they shipped me
[03:16] <mgdunn> graphics is nvidia gt525M if that helps
[03:18] <escott> mgdunn, if that is nvidia optimus then that will be a problem
[03:19] <damselfly9> ClientAlive; doesn't really say what model cpu chip it's running
[03:19] <ongandrew> are there anyone that i could change my booting screen like i want to see a circle like the one on the website (which i can't seem to find now) he said how fast does your computer load
[03:19] <ClientAlive> Perhaps I should throw out there what I'm really, ultimately after. Here's the situation. I paid another $175 for that cpu because it has intel vt-d. I've made numerous attempts to find out if the chipset and bios are going to support that through HP but alas, to no avail at all. I need a certain way to know (or understand) whether I'm able to make use of this vt-d technology or this things going back to HP.
[03:19] <ClientAlive> intel i7 - 3820QM
[03:20] <cub> how to view images in terminal
[03:20] <keelG> like as ascii art?
[03:20] <escott> cub, eog
[03:20] <cub> idk like when im using links
[03:20] <cub> to browse
[03:21] <keelG> ClientAlive: what is it you wish to achieve by using Intel VT-d?
[03:21] <ClientAlive> what I was hoping may help is to run sudo kvm-ok (after installing it) via the live cd.
[03:21] <escott> ClientAlive, just because the cpu has vt-d doesnt mean anything
[03:21] <escott> ClientAlive, the motherboard must have an iommu as well. you probably just wasted $175
[03:21] <ClientAlive> that's the same thing someone else asked me. Atm, I'm not an expert on the technology. I do however want to experiment with it and learn.
[03:22] <cub> im just trying to use links on a ubuntu server install to view pics
[03:22] <ClientAlive> so my current objective is to determine that I have it available (the cpu supports it but what about the other factors?)
[03:22] <cub> thats why i was asking .. ty for helping
[03:23] <compdoc> ClientAlive, why do you need vt-d?
[03:23] <ClientAlive> escott: that is exactly the problem. Try finding out anything about a lappy mobo or it's chipset or the bios from HP - not gonna happen  ;<
[03:23] <ClientAlive> Pissed as hell about that
[03:23] <damselfly9> ClientAlive; how much ram do you have?
[03:23] <ClientAlive> compdoc: do I have to know why I need it to want it?
[03:23] <ClientAlive> 8 gb
[03:23] <escott> ClientAlive, if you need vt-d you should be building your own machine from components you can select and verify before you purchase
[03:24] <compdoc> never found it necessary in all the years ive been building vm servers to run kvm
[03:24] <keelG> ClientAlive: This will tell you what the CPU supports, but as escott mentioned, some of the tech requires other tech or might even be limited by the OEM: http://ark.intel.com/products/64889/Intel-Core-i7-3820QM-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz
[03:25] <ClientAlive> escott: ideally, yes. I love this lappy in every other respect but I probably wouldn't have paid for a cpu upgrade if not for vt-d. I may want to return it for a refund if the chipset and bois aren't going to allow it.
[03:25] <keelG> I recall Sony not letting their customers enable Intel VT at all, even though the CPU supported it - fail!
[03:25] <ClientAlive> keelG: what you said is exactly the part I'm after. It is why I'm here. Is the information I seek to discover.
[03:25] <ClientAlive> the chipset and the bios
[03:26] <escott> ClientAlive, there is no good way to find out except to install kvm and see if you can passthrough whatever device it is you want to pass through
[03:26] <ClientAlive> ok
[03:26] <escott> ClientAlive, and dig through every single tab in the bios
[03:27] <JPeterson> how do i add ~/.bash_profile to ubuntu1 from the shell?
[03:27] <damselfly9> ClientAlive; I had the interesting experience lately of trying one distro's burnt cd where the cd tested good but more than half the machines I tried it in rejected it as non-bootable
[03:27] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to install unity on xubuntu?
[03:27] <ongandrew> question everyone how do i obtain this kind of loading screen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFRP1D4KkH0)
[03:27] <escott> JPeterson, vi ~/.bash_profile
[03:27] <zman099> should i buy a new laptop or buy a ssd for my old latitude d630
[03:27] <zman099> and install ubuntu
[03:27] <craigbass1976> unity interface only has three stars in software center, so I wasn't sure if that was the one.
[03:27] <bsmith093> i have the wierdest problem, sudo apt-get update refuses to connect to any server i try, but every other web based thing i have works fine. fresh 12.04 install
[03:28] <JPeterson> escott: with add i mean synchronize
[03:28] <ClientAlive> escott: ok. This makes sense. So far, what I've seen in bios says "Virtualization Technology" with options to "enable" or "dissable" (it's currently enabled because of me). This seems very general name to me and I don't understand if "Virtualization Technology" in cluded vt-d or not.
[03:28] <craigbass1976> bsmith093, where are you?  I was in a school the other day and I think they were blocking ubuntu updates for some reason
[03:28] <ClientAlive> damselfly9: interesting
[03:28] <bsmith093> craigbass1976: home network worked fine 20 minutes ago
[03:29] <damselfly9> ClientAlive; so apparently there has been something weird going on with cd bootcode lately that makes it only bottable in some machines
[03:29] <escott> ClientAlive, what you expect the firmware to be well documented? crazy man, next you will expect it to be written correctly. it never ends with people like you
[03:29] <ClientAlive> it would be nice
[03:30] <ClientAlive> no, I just wonder how virutualization tech works in general. If it is normal for the virutalization extensions to include vt-d or have it separate
[03:30] <ClientAlive> that's what would be very telling
[03:30] <rstat1> usually separate
[03:30] <ongandrew> how do i obtain this kind of loadking screen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFRP1D4KkH0
[03:30] <escott> ClientAlive, could be either way. it could mean vmx it could mean vt-d it could mean that your board doesnt support vt-d it could be both
[03:31] <ClientAlive> I see
[03:31] <phunyguy> Is it possible to load Ubuntu on a Microsoft Surface tablet? I got one for free from work, and I was just curious.
[03:31] <keelG> phunyguy you can tell us, is the bootloader unlocked?
[03:31] <ClientAlive> I'll try the empiracle method then as you suggest (make a vm and try to pass a device through).
[03:31] <xrs> phunyguy,  yes you can but you may need to use boot-repair for the linux bootloader to work
[03:31] <ClientAlive> thx
[03:31] <phunyguy> I have no idea
[03:31] <escott> phunyguy, thats an arm device? with win8?
[03:31] <phunyguy> xrs, do you have any guides/
[03:31] <xrs> yes
[03:31] <phunyguy> escott, ARM, with WindowsRT
[03:31] <rstat1> surface rt has a very locked bootloader.
[03:31] <keelG> uff, no dice iirc
[03:32] <phunyguy> doh.
[03:32] <JPeterson> u1sdtool --create-folder ~/.xbcm
[03:32] <phunyguy> Would love for that to work.
[03:32] <JPeterson> u1sdtool: error: PATH: '/home/user/.xbcm' don't exists
[03:32] <keelG> its still ARM
[03:32] <phunyguy> it's a nice tablet, good weight, microSD slot, USB port...
[03:32] <rstat1> If you figure out a way around the UEFI SecureBoot then sure you can run any ARM os on you want.
[03:33] <phunyguy> humph
[03:34] <xrs> i thought i had a better one than this but i guess i didnt bookmark it:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:34] <cgkades> does anyone know where the system logs portable drive or thumb drive insertion?
[03:34] <JPeterson> the folder command is `u1sdtool --create-folder ~/.xbmc`, what's the file command? u1sdtool --create-file ~/.bash_profile
[03:34] <escott> cgkades, syslog
[03:35] <Tux_1> cgkades: dmesg
[03:35] <escott> !pm | ongandrew
[03:35] <cgkades> Tux_1: thought so, thanks
[03:35] <escott> ongandrew, im not answering because i dont know the answer. its a plymouth mod i dont know which
[03:36] <ongandrew> oh ok
[03:36] <cub> how do i find out my computer info.. like model etc
[03:37] <cub> there's a command right?
[03:37] <escott> cub, lshw, lspci, lsusb
[03:38] <keelG> if you want your computer model, you can also do dmesg |grep ThinkPad (if you have a thinkpad)
[03:38] <crippledmonk> you can also open a terminal window and type cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:39] <cub> ty
[03:41] <keelG> fyi, best cli tool in these late (early) hours: sl
[03:45] <crippledmonk> clear
[03:53] <craigbass1976> How do I install the regular ubuntu interface on xubuntu
[03:53] <Corey> IIRC it's a meta package "ubuntu-desktop"
[03:54] <crippledmonk> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:01] <kewel> how to install java 7 on lubuntu 12.04?
[04:01] <kewel> nm. just got it
[04:01] <kewel> =P
[04:02] <kewel> can anyone find a cool list of common/popular repositories?  I dono why but it would make me feel better
[04:03] <dr_willis> check the omgubuntu and webupd8 blos sites
[04:03] <dr_willis> blog.
[04:04] <dr_willis> they mention most popular apps you may want to know about
[04:05] <kewel> dr_willis: cool .. thx
[04:07] <Dave77> is there any software for ubuntu that would help me to download files, what do I need?    I want to send URL from other PC to ubuntu box and have it download the file.
[04:07] <Lucenut> Hey peeps, kinda new to ubuntu. How do I connect to my local network windows shares?
[04:07] <escott> Lucenut, open the file manager and click on "local network"
[04:07] <escott> !samba | Lucenut for more advanced stuff
[04:08] <Lucenut> I am in eclipse and want to edit some files on a development webserver.
[04:08] <hehateme> i keep getting the get thread context failed message in wine. any ideas?
[04:08] <tim_> hello if im about to run a dual boot of xbuntu and windows 7 and im wondering if i need to make a partion from within windows or if i can create a partion in the setup
[04:09] <escott> tim_, either
[04:09] <tim_> oh okay. that makes it very easy.
[04:09] <tim_> i now just need to boot from my flash drive
[04:09] <tim_> and im all set
[04:10] <hehateme> is it true that its not a good idea to install ubuntu first then windows
[04:10] <escott> !grub | hehateme
[04:11] <dr_willis> if you know how to reinstall the grub loader you can do it easially enough.  hehateme
[04:12] <escott> goodnight dr_willis
[04:12] <dr_willis> and know how to leave partions free for windows
[04:13] <hehateme> thorugh live cd? does it already have boot installer?
[04:13] <hehateme> that being said it doesnt matter if its xp or 7?
[04:14] <dr_willis> if you have to ask.. it may be much better idea to install windows first
[04:14] <Lucenut> OK, I don't get this. Trying to connect to my local network windows shares.
[04:14] <dr_willis> xp or 7 shoultent matter mych
[04:14] <hehateme> already  to much on my linux partition
[04:15] <Lucenut> In the file manager I went to Network and then tried opening the "Workgroup" and the "Windows Network". Both fail.
[04:16] <Lucenut> Windows explorer has an address window where you can type "\\SERVER\C$"
[04:16] <Lucenut> How can I do that in ubuntu?
[04:16] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  in the file manager you can also hit    ctrl-l  and enter the share path        smb://server/share
[04:16] <Lucenut> Or specifically Eclipse.
[04:16] <kewel> so is there a difference between a repo and a ppa?
[04:16] <dr_willis> or try the server ip instead of name
[04:17] <dr_willis> a ppa is a personal repo. uts a little differenr
[04:17] <dr_willis> !ppa
[04:18] <kewel> aha
[04:18] <kewel> thx
[04:19] <grndlvl> I have a lenovo t430s running ubuntu 12.04LTS using the 3.4.0-030400-generic kernel (because of lock ups have been on it since like the second day and suspend previously worked) and recently suspend stopped working any ideas or a good direction to start diagnosing the issue? thx in adv.
[04:20] <grndlvl> btw it does attempt to suspend, however, it immediately wakes up
[04:20] <AnonGr_> !x #part
[04:22] <Lucenut> OK, I was able to connect in the file explorer. But in Eclipse I still only see the linux file system. Do I need to map a drive or something?
[04:22] <dr_willis> grndlvl:  try older kernels. see if it goes back to working. if so definatly file a bug report.
[04:22] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  for non gnome apps.. look in your ~/.gvfs directory
[04:22] <grndlvl> yeah I tried the latest 3.2 release as well :(
[04:22] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  or you can mount shares by hand to specific local directories to be easier to find.
[04:24] <grndlvl> dr_willis: ok thx; I will try to debug further and if I can't figure it out I will post a bug report. I wish I knew when it stopped exactly. The weird thing is I have been using the same kernel b/c 12.04LTS is still supplying 3.2 out of the repos.
[04:26] <dr_willis> i never use hibernate or suspend. ;)
[04:27] <Lucenut> Sorry Dr Willis. I don't understand either of those suggestions.
[04:27] <grndlvl> dr_willis: yeah I hear ya. I rarely do myself, except when I do b/c of travel and what not
[04:28] <grndlvl> thx though
[04:28] <Lucenut> I tried creating a "virtual file system" in Eclipse with the same IP/info as I connected with the file explorer but no luck.
[04:29] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  look in your users .gvfs directory. the shares get mounted inside there
[04:29] <dr_willis>  the full path would be /home/yourusername/.gvfs
[04:29] <grndlvl> ha found something that might be down the right alley
[04:29] <Lucenut> I couldn't find anything like .gvfs
[04:29] <grndlvl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1076498
[04:30] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  look again.. ;)  you do realize things that begin with a . are hidden by default in the file manager.. type in the full path
[04:30] <Lucenut> Type it in where?
[04:31] <Lucenut> Ecplise doesn't have an address box.
[04:33] <dr_willis> use the normal file manager perhaps?
[04:34] <dr_willis> I dontuse eclipse.. so no idea how it works
[04:34] <Lucenut> OK, there is an address box. I typed in smb://192.168.1.105/wwwroot and it's just grinding.
[04:34] <dr_willis> smb:// is a special kind of address used by Gnome/gtk/ type apps.. TRY the .gvfs directory
[04:35] <dr_willis> not all apps support smb:// type nameing
[04:35] <HowardTheDuck> hi is ubuntu a good operation system
[04:35] <dr_willis> HowardTheDuck:  works very well for most people/
[04:35] <Lucenut> Just type ".gvfs" in the address bar?
[04:35] <xrs> HowardTheDuck,  Ubuntu Studio is better
[04:35] <waver> so far so good using the PCI Sata
[04:35] <HowardTheDuck> s-s-studio
[04:35] <waver> shall see if it freezes
[04:35] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  again.. i DONT use eclipse..  however you enter a path to save/load files.. you look in your .gvfs directory
[04:35] <josesierra> Wondering if somebody might know something about this or maybe point me in the right direction: I'm running Gnome Shell 3.6 and it just gobbles up memory like crazy
[04:36] <HowardTheDuck> i have 10.04 but im afraid to upgarde
[04:36] <josesierra> Unity does as well, even more than Gnome Shell...
[04:36] <HowardTheDuck> because of this g-nome
[04:36] <dr_willis> !10.04
[04:36] <cfhowlett> HowardTheDuck, gnome will not prevent upgrades ... what do you mean
[04:36] <xrs> open the task manager and see whats taking up all the memory
[04:36] <dr_willis> gnome-2 is basically dead.. time to bury it and move on. ;)
[04:37] <HowardTheDuck> wow dead is a strong word
[04:37] <cfhowlett> HowardTheDuck, xubuntu and lubuntu are lightweight alternatives
[04:37] <HowardTheDuck> i like gnome do
[04:37] <dr_willis> I wouldent say its strong enough.. its been sick for a long time.
[04:37] <dr_willis> Theres numerous docks in 12.10  you can play with
[04:37] <Lucenut> "file:///.gvfs"
[04:37] <dr_willis> Ive heard plank is nice.. but not sure if its in the default repos. (it may be to new)
[04:37] <zykotick9> dr_willis: gnome2 is dead.  and gnome3 fallback is even living-dead at this point ;)
[04:37] <cfhowlett> HowardTheDuck, don't upgrade yet.  install xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop and try them out.
[04:38] <OerHeks> and Kubuntu
[04:38] <HowardTheDuck> i have the verion of lubuntu that was around when 10.04 ubuntu came out installed on my centrino laptop
[04:38] <dr_willis> Yep. Not heard lately if gnome-fallback is on or off the chopping block at this time.. ;) i wouldent count on it being around for much longer
[04:38] <dr_willis> 12.10 lubuntu is very nice
[04:39] <crippledmonk> Anyone ever use crunchbang? Don't hit me. just asking.
[04:39] <HowardTheDuck> nestles crunch
[04:39]  * cfhowlett smacks crippledmonk ...
[04:39] <dr_willis> I just install openbox :) if i need openbox
[04:39] <dr_willis> or blackbox. or fluxbox. or whatever ;)
[04:40] <Lucenut> Dr. Willis I tried "file:///.gvfs", "file://.gvfs"
[04:40] <crippledmonk> That's the great thing about linux. LOT'S of choices
[04:40] <singharkirat> Hie
[04:40] <singharkirat> I m nd
[04:40] <Lucenut> Nothing works.
[04:40] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, greetings
[04:41] <singharkirat> I m new to ubuntu, can i know how to update this thing... :-/
[04:41] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  how about just /home/yourusername/.gvfs ?
[04:41] <timaaa> Im in the middle of setting up xbuntu and im wondering how to do a partion
[04:41] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, what version
[04:41] <dr_willis> !manual
[04:41] <dr_willis> timaaa:  how to do what partition? what sort of layout your partions should be in? depends on your needs.
[04:42] <singharkirat> 12.04
[04:42] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, you want to upgrade to a new version of ubuntu or just update 12.04?
[04:42] <timaaa> How to do a partion to install xbuntu
[04:43] <singharkirat> Just update
[04:43] <dr_willis> timaaa:  the installer can auto partition. Or you an do it by hand.
[04:43] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, just run update manager  system>update manager
[04:43] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, i'm just followin the thread.. In my directory, .gvfs is a directory not a file
[04:44] <dr_willis> Toph2:  thats correct.. it is a directory that contains all the samba mounts and other special mounts
[04:44] <Toph2> dr_willis,,, ok
[04:44] <singharkirat> Thanks
[04:45] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, have fun, be safe
[04:45] <singharkirat> Do we have something to shrink a,partition?
[04:45] <singharkirat> :)
[04:45] <dr_willis> gparted can do all that singharkirat
[04:45] <Lucenut> Dr. Willis I can browse to /home/greg/ then I add ".gvfs" and it just sits there saying wait.
[04:46] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  try going there from your normal file manager.
[04:46] <singharkirat> I m not getting any shrinking option...
[04:47] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, you said you wanted to update ubuntu.  are you installing something now?
[04:47] <dr_willis> singharkirat: if your system is allready using 4 primary partitions   then you may have to do some work to repartion things
[04:47] <singharkirat> I installed
[04:48] <Lucenut> Nope, can't find .gvfs in the file explorer.
[04:48] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, so why are you now shrinking partitions?  To accomplish what?
[04:48] <zykotick9> dr_willis: huge advantage of gtp, no primary partition limit :)
[04:48] <zykotick9> s/gtp/gpt/
[04:50] <megha> is their a software for fxp transfter ?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> megha, fxp?  you mean ftp?
[04:50] <Nickelx> hello all, this might be a strange question to come to the irc about, but does anyone know of a gameboy advance emulator that's compatible with 12.10?? I'm having issues with visualboy advance and have been looking for fixes and whatnot to no avail.
[04:50] <megha> cfhowlett: no i meant fxp
[04:50] <dr_willis> fxp - Hmm.. i recall seeing that asked befor.. thats some sort of modified ftp.. i think we  looked into it and a great many of the ftp clients did it.... but ive never used fxp
[04:50] <dr_willis> couldent really see the point of fxp ;)
[04:51] <singharkirat> I hv 3 primary partitions..  I want to shrink one and make them 4
[04:51] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, boot your ubuntu cd/usb.  fire up gparted.  shrink (CAREFULLY).  Remove the boot CD/USB and restart ubuntu
[04:52] <BlackDalek> how do I send quick chat messages over a LAN? Is there any program for this in Ubuntu?
[04:52] <zykotick9> Nickelx: i've used mednafen for gba in the past
[04:52] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  depends on how the other guys are logged in if they will see them or not and what apps you should be using
[04:52] <singharkirat> Thanks
[04:52] <megha> dr_willis: it useless but i have no other way than to use fxp
[04:52] <Nickelx> zykotick9: thanks hombre, i'll google that right now! <3
[04:52] <dr_willis> megha:  try the various ftp clients and see i guess.
[04:53] <megha> dr_willis: can you name some of the clients ?
[04:53] <bsmith093> any ideas, update manager works fine, but apt cant find any server i try and connect it to, and every other web thing works perfectly
[04:53] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, this is over a the same LAN (everyone will be using the same client) - NOT over internet...
[04:53] <dr_willis> megha:  apt-cache search ftp        nautilus has ftp built in also
[04:53] <BlackDalek> Does such an app exist for Ubuntu?
[04:53] <megha> dr_willis: ok :)
[04:53] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  using whata same 'client' ?  are they sshed in? in X in what?
[04:54] <singharkirat> I have installed ubuntu 12.10 on my lenovo thinkstation s20, on some of them every thing is fine but on some the system hangs after grub... Amy help
[04:54] <dr_willis> I thought the ubuntu IM stuff had some sort of "local network" chat feature
[04:55] <singharkirat> I noticed that the graphics appear very poor on the system with this problem...
[04:55] <Nickelx> zykotick9: i just installed that via apt, and i can't find it, why would that be?
[04:55] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, I think it used to.. but now everything seems to be geared towards needing to go through the interent :(... I am trying to find something that will allow IM over a LAN without needing internet connection to function...
[04:56] <BlackDalek> internet*
[04:57] <BlackDalek> dr_willis, LAN IM client would need to run on either Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10, as that is what all PCs are using.
[04:57] <cfhowlett> singharkirat, check for restricted/proprietary drivers.  Also, if you are installing for work deployment machines, I'd suggest you install 12.04, the Long Term Support release
[04:58] <bsmith093> apparentyl anon proxy will screw up apt, dunno why but one quick purge and i can apt-get again
[04:58] <waver> hmmmm
[04:58] <dr_willis> BlackDalek:  you could set up some sort of jabber or irc server for the lan to use. that may be the easiest thing.
[04:59] <waver> keelG you still around?
[04:59] <zykotick9> Nickelx: it's a cli starting app, with a quasi-GUI once started.  from terminal try "mednafen /path/to/rom"
[04:59] <waver> damn server froze again! UGH
[04:59] <Nickelx> kk, i'll give it a shot
[05:02] <arun_> hey
[05:02] <arun_> huys
[05:02] <arun_> i have a problem
[05:03] <arun_> can any one help me
[05:03] <Nickelx> zykotick9: thanks a billion, this is awesome. :D
[05:03] <Lucenut> Hmm still no luck connecting to windows shares from Eclipse. I can with file explorer smb//...
[05:04] <zykotick9> Nickelx: read the instructions, it's got lots of options!  fyi alt+shift+1 to config joy1 ;)
[05:05] <arun_> hey guys help me anyone /
[05:06] <arun_> help me guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyysssssssssssssssssss
[05:06] <Nickelx> zykotick9: lmao, i was going to ask that soon enough!!!!!
 can any one help me [10:45] == karakedi [~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] [10:45] == NaN123 [~Thunderbi@181.130.229.186] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] == cfhowlett [~cfhowlett@123.116.119.18] has quit [Quit: Leaving] [10:45] == jSwan [~jason@76-10-128-20.dsl.teksavvy.com] has left #ubuntu [] [10:46] <Nickelx> zykotick9: thanks a billion, this is awesome. :D [10:46] <Lucenut> Hmm still no luck c
[05:07] <arun_> hey is anyone listening me
[05:07] <arun_> mn
[05:07] <arun_> man
[05:07] <dr_willis> arun_:    it would help if you stated the actual problem more then spamming
[05:07] <arun_> thanks man
[05:08] <Lucenut> Anyone know how to connect to windows shares from Eclipse?
[05:08] <arun_> Hey how to remove pdf copyright security ?
[05:08] <tonsofpcs> magic
[05:08] <dr_willis> Lucenut:  there is the eclise channels perhaps.
[05:09] <alejandro_> hi
[05:09] <alejandro_> anybody here speak spanish?
[05:09] <alejandro_> i have a doubt about the installation of some drivers
[05:09] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: there is a #ubuntu-es I believe
[05:09] <arun_> Hey how to remove pdf copyright security ?
[05:09] <dr_willis> !es
[05:10] <dr_willis> arun_:  thats not really a ubuntu support type issue.. and i think the answer is 'you dont'
[05:10] <arun_> oh is there any pdf support channel?
[05:10] <tonsofpcs> yes, http://www.adobe.com/
[05:11] <alejandro_> i have installed  ubunto 10.4 but the wifi driver cant recognize any red
[05:11] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: "network" (not "red")
[05:11] <ac1> Why no 12.04?
[05:11] <arun_> hey is there any theme for ubuntu 12.1
[05:12] <tonsofpcs> you probably need a specific driver for your wifi card.  Why not try 12.04 or 12.10?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !who
[05:12] <alejandro_> because 12.10 cant recognize the red (network)
[05:12] <xangua> arun_: you can find lots of in gnome-look.org
[05:12] <alejandro_> tonsofpcs come on!!!!
[05:12] <tonsofpcs> as you can see, only three people have said anything in the past 20 minutes.  If you think the conversation is ambiguous, you can ask for clarification.
[05:13] <arun_> !tab thanks
[05:13] <arun_> !tab
[05:13] <alejandro_> !tonsofpc because 12.10 cant recognize the red (network)
[05:13] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: perhaps an issue with the card?  is this a laptop with a wifi on/off switch? my netbook requires I force the wifi on in BIOS.
[05:13]  * dr_willis feels he should point out that !COMMANDS are bot triggers
[05:14] <ac1> !commands
[05:14]  * tonsofpcs !facepalms
[05:14] <alejandro_> i dont thing so, i have installed ubuntu four times, two time 12.4 and two times with 10.4
[05:14] <alejandro_> and nothing
[05:15] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: fn key plus a wifi symbol on one of the top keys maybe?
[05:15] <dr_willis> 10.04 is nearing its end of life.
[05:15] <alejandro_> !tonsofpcs nope
[05:15] <dr_willis> alejandro_:  dont put a ! befor their name
[05:16] <alejandro_> dr_willis, i write what i want
[05:16] <mhs> Hi
[05:16] <dr_willis> alejandro_:  then you are not paying attention.. !commands are bot triggers.. so you are going to be constantly spamming the bot..
[05:16] <dr_willis> alejandro_:  this will most likely annoy people
[05:16] <tonsofpcs> dr_willis: I think he's using google translate or something...
[05:16] <PhysicsBrain> Hello fellas! How can I enable the sudo password in the 12.10 QQ. My system do not require the password!!
[05:16] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: si quieres ayuda en espanol, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:17] <tonsofpcs> PhysicsBrain: visudo
[05:17] <alejandro_> no problem i can understand you tonsofpcs
[05:17] <dr_willis> PhysicsBrain:  we have to wonder how it got disabled.
[05:17] <alejandro_> how i can switch on my network card using bios?
[05:18] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: depends on the BIOS.  My work netbook can't function with linux using the wifi because the switch is handled by software
[05:18] <PhysicsBrain> tonsofpcs: Only this and my system will require the system password?
[05:18] <amartin_> leave
[05:19] <tonsofpcs> PhysicsBrain: please read the file and/or its man page.
[05:19] <mhs> My micromax data card is not working properly in ubuntu 12.10. The device is not detecting at all.
[05:19] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: I had one laptop that I had to dual-boot windows with because you needed to manually enable the wifi in windows each time you shut down completely, then reboot to linux.
[05:19] <dr_willis> mhs:  and whats a micromax data card?
[05:19] <PhysicsBrain> Alone! I did not anything to disable it!
[05:19] <tonsofpcs> alejandro_: may  be easier to get a USB wifi card.
[05:19] <alejandro_> mmm ok
[05:20] <PhysicsBrain> Why tonsofpcs?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !paste
[05:20] <alejandro_> im going to seek a tutorial in web
[05:20] <tonsofpcs> PhysicsBrain: because otherwise you might break your system
[05:21] <PhysicsBrain> Ok. Thanks, but, i have to add any line in the visudo file?
[05:23] <dr_willis> PhysicsBrain:  so you did a clean install of 12.10 and the sudo password was disabled by default?
[05:23] <bekub> hi
[05:24] <cfhowlett> bekub, greetings
[05:25] <bekub> HI
[05:25] <PhysicsBrain> dr_willis: No! I just had change the file! this is weird, i know. It's ok now!
[05:25] <bekub> HI
[05:25] <cfhowlett> bekub, greetings ... again
[05:27] <PhysicsBrain> dr_willis: I did a upgrade. 12.04 -> 12.10! I did something to chande it! I fix it yet!
[05:28] <PhysicsBrain> why in this chat show the ip?
[05:28] <PhysicsBrain> This is crazy!
[05:28] <dr_willis> !cloak
[05:29] <dr_willis> PhysicsBrain:   hasent been an issue for the decades that irc has existed...
[05:30] <PhysicsBrain> Ok!! No problem. Bye fellas!! Good day!!
[05:40] <cipher__> hi, i'm using pulse-audio & alsa, recently no sound devices have shown up to play through, the audio bar is grayed out and such. i recall I fixed this one by deleting a file and restarting my computer, can anyone point me toward that?
[05:40] <cipher__> this once by*
[05:40] <cipher__> err, it was directory actually
[05:40] <dr_willis> the  .pulse* stuff in your home directory perhaps
[05:41] <cipher__> will it re-populate the file if i purge it?
[05:41] <dr_willis> if you are worried about it.. move/rename it.
[05:41] <cipher__> *thanks.
[05:41] <dr_willis> and see
[05:41] <cipher__> ok
[05:41] <cipher__> thank you
[05:41] <dr_willis> You said you deleted it befor. ;)
[05:46] <Frank604> hi
[05:46] <dr_willis> Hello
[05:48] <Frank604> pretty quiet here
[05:48] <Guest73216> derp
[05:48] <dr_willis> Its Sunday Morning. :)
[05:49] <alessandro_> a
[05:49] <LiThiuME3> b
[05:49] <alessandro_> c
[05:49] <virusuy> dr_willis: here in Uruguay it's 3am :P
[05:49] <Frank604> it is 9:49 pm saturday here
[05:50] <SegFaultAX> How can I determine which source a package will come from?
[05:50] <SegFaultAX> Via apt or dpkg.
[05:50] <alessandro_> it is 06:52 am here
[05:51] <Frank604> apt-cache policy packagename ?
[05:51] <SegFaultAX> Frank604: Yup, just landed. Thanks.
[05:52] <Frank604> No problemo Mr. Bernard
[05:55] <kewel> what's the apt-get command to show installed packages matching 'java' ?
[05:55] <dr_willis> apt-cache search pattern
[05:55] <dr_willis> !apt
[05:55] <kewel> swee ot
[05:56] <kewel> ack too much .. how do I remove java 7?
[05:56] <dr_willis> depends on how you isntalled it.
[05:56] <dr_willis> apt-get remove packagename
[05:56] <dr_willis> !java
[05:57] <dr_willis> or install some other java and just tell the system to use the other java
[05:57] <LiteBeer> kewel: dpkg -l '*java*' | grep ^ii
[05:57] <kewel> I used sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[05:57] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever needed to uninstall java. ;) so never really tried it.
[05:57] <kewel> I'm trying to downgrade to java 6 ..
[05:58] <kewel> my roommate is trying to play games on pogo .. and this piii 1ghz 512 is having trouble with java (i think)
[05:59] <kewel> I did 'sudo apt-get install oracle-java6-installer' .. but I tested my java version on the web and it's still 7
[05:59] <dr_willis> there is a way you can have both installed and switch btween them.
[06:00] <kewel> ooh
[06:00] <kewel> do tell!
[06:00] <dr_willis> see the !java factoid url
[06:00] <dr_willis> i belive its in there
[06:00] <LiteBeer> kewel: try: update-alternatives --config java
[06:02] <kewel> got it
[06:02] <kewel> do I need to restart chrome?
[06:02] <xrs> i would
[06:07] <PrincessLuna> Anyone with an ultrabook? How are you using the msata drive?
[06:08] <kewel> hmm
[06:08] <mhs> Can any body tell me the Indian chatting rooms
[06:09] <kewel> changed to default to 6 .. rebooted .. listed version options with 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' -- told me 6 .. like I told it to .. however when I go to a java test page in chrome it says I'm running 7
[06:09] <kewel> it makes sense if that doesn't make sense
[06:09] <timmm> Hello im about to set up xbuntu and im wondering how to comfigue the hard drive
[06:10] <sakui> why does my screen go blank in ubuntu server 12.04.1 x86 after grub bootloader?
[06:11] <xrs> timmm,  i would make a swap partition that is = in size to the amount of ram you have, the rest depends on how big the hard drive is but you want the largest partition to be /home  (you will need a "/" partition. this is where xubuntu and its apps will install to.)
[06:12] <xrs> !in
[06:13] <timmm> So currently i have a hard drive configured for windows 7. So do i need to resize the partions? Xrs
[06:15] <xrs> if you want it on the win7 hard drive and you have no "unallocated" space, yes you will need to resize the partition. in that case you are better off with a small SWAP and all else partitioned as "/" (not haveing a /home partition will make things harder in the long run but for your setup thats the easiest way)
[06:15] <xrs> BACK UP YOUR DATA
[06:15] <timmm> I got a bacckup
[06:15] <timmm> Im confused by what to do
[06:16] <xrs> well then resize the windows partition to give you however much linux space you want and let Xubuntu take care of the rest
[06:17] <timmm> Im not sure how to resize a partion. Call me a noob its okay, xrs
[06:17] <dr_willis> the installer can resize existing windows partions. or you can use gparted from a live cd for total control.
[06:17] <xrs> there is a program called gparted (i think xubuntu put it in the Settings Manager in the launcher menu)
[06:18] <xrs> gparted is like windows disk management
[06:18] <dr_willis> typical layout for a windows/xubuntu sustem  -->    (primary windows ntfs - a few 100gb+)  (extended partion with logicals for  Luubntu /  and swap)
[06:18] <Ray> its usually by clicking mouse right button > resize/shrink
[06:18] <dr_willis> or you could use all primaries if you wanted to. but theres a limit to 4 of those with non-gpt systems
[06:19] <Ray> ensure that if u use gparted, ntfs supported. (ntfsprogs)
[06:19] <xrs> use gparted to resize the windows partition and let the xubuntu installer handle the rest of the partitioning. be sure you tell it you want to dual boot with windows
[06:20] <xrs> xubuntu's gparted comes with ntfs-utils
[06:20] <Ray> great
[06:20] <dr_willis> My normal disk layout -->     (windows) (linux / 30gb) (/home big as i can get it) (1gb swap)
[06:21] <timmm> so do i need a usb to us gparted?
[06:21] <Ray> recomendded swap is 2x of your ram, but its not a "rule" on making swap
[06:21] <xrs> no
[06:21] <Spanky100> dr_willis:  You using any utility in Windows to access your home directory?
[06:21] <dr_willis> a gparted-live cd/usb s a very handy tool
[06:21] <timmm> Dont have disc drive
[06:22] <dr_willis> Spanky100:  any of the windows tools to access ext* ive found very flakey.
[06:22] <xrs> timm go to the launcher menu (the mouse thingy in the upper-left) select Settings Manager -> gparted
[06:22] <Spanky100> Me too.  that's why I asked...
[06:22] <Ray> no usb need
[06:22] <timmm> I dont see it xrs..
[06:23] <Ray> akh, u use xubuntu?
[06:23] <Spanky100> dr_willis:  You formatting home with NTFS then? I presume you mean to imply that /home is on a separate partition...
[06:23] <xrs> okay let me switch over to my xubuntu PC
[06:23] <Ray> definitely
[06:23] <timmm> Im running off my usb key with xbuntu
[06:23] <dr_willis> Spanky100  You dont use NTFS for home
[06:24] <dr_willis> I use 4 primary partions
[06:24] <dr_willis> My current setup has /home on its own 3TB hard drive.
[06:24] <Ray> wow
[06:24] <Spanky100> No I don't....  Was wondering if you do though with your 3rd partition so you can see it in your windows directory...
[06:25] <Spanky100> Or is third partition /home just ext3 or ext4
[06:25] <timmm> Okay i have a windows netbook running xubuntu from my usb key and am trying to install it.
[06:26] <Ray> owh
[06:26] <Spanky100> I've kind of given up on multi-boot systems.  I've pretty much dedicated on box Linux or Windows and kind of just stick with it...
[06:26] <apos> timmm do you see a round blue icon with a mouse in the upper left corner of the screen?
[06:26] <timmm> Yup
[06:26] <apos> click that then click settings manager
[06:26] <apos> gparted is in there
[06:26] <Ray> thats it~
[06:27] <Ray> step-by-step makes it easier
[06:27] <timmm> I dont see it
[06:27] <dr_willis> I rarely boot into windows these days. its on its own hd on most of my systems
[06:28] <Spanky100> New VMware Workstation 9.X working pretty well on Ubuntu 12.04 over here.... Have to give credit to the VMWare guys.  The interface is clean.
[06:28] <Ray> on xubuntu, is Gparted included on the live CD/USB?
[06:28] <apos> yes
[06:28] <apos> it disapears after install but its there for the install
[06:28] <dr_willis> Ray:  if its not.. you can install it  and it will install to ram. so you can use it
[06:28] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:28] <Ray> yeah
[06:29] <Spanky100> I'm about 75/25.  Work applications necessitate some Windows...  Been trying to stick with Ubuntu or variants for all my server tasks.
[06:29] <dr_willis> theres specific gparted live cds you can get also
[06:29] <timmm> Found it
[06:29] <Ray> nah
[06:29] <timmm> Under system
[06:29] <Spanky100> 75% Windows unfortunately.  Lot of time on the workstation....
[06:30] <Ray> hmm, keep you're eyes open, you just opened it when find the gparted~
[06:30] <apos> i havent touched a windows pc since i found ubuntu studio
[06:30] <timmm> Ya i found gparted
[06:30] <Ray> open it -_-
[06:30] <timmm> It is open
[06:31] <dr_willis> now may be a good time to watch a gparted tutorial or 2 on youtube. ;)
[06:31] <apos> right click on your windows partition and choose resize
[06:31] <Ray> try to locate the win partition
[06:31] <dr_willis> and.. you DO have backups allready made?
[06:31] <timmm> Yup
[06:31] <dr_willis> you do know how to restore from thebackups? ;)   seen that happen once...
[06:31] <Ray> haha
[06:32] <timmm> Okay so ive got 284 gigs total of my main partion
[06:32] <Ray> he know it, he plays with partition!
[06:32] <apos> now you need to decide how much space you want for linux
[06:32] <Spanky100> timm:  Of all the utilities I've used on Windows Images - I would recommend Macrium Reflect.  Unless you are are sure your image is bulletproof.
[06:32] <apos> i would say no less than 16GB
[06:33] <Ray> yeah
[06:33] <timmm> I think ill go about 84
[06:33] <Ray> right click on the desired partition > resize/move
[06:34] <Ray> you're on making a place for the new neighborhood~
[06:35] <timmm> Frig its giving me errors
[06:35] <Spanky100> ... so your internet explorers can become firefox explorers ...
[06:35] <Ray> what error?
[06:36] <Ray> haha, how about Mozilla Internet..??
[06:36] <timmm> Its giving me error codes
[06:36] <Spanky100> Chromium Explorer
[06:36] <Ray> yeah, i mean could you explain it more detail..?
[06:37] <Spanky100> ...(hope you've got a good image)...
[06:37] <Ray> type here what you read there in the error
[06:37] <apos> Redo! Backup & Restore is nice.   clonezilla frontend GUI any idiot can use. i ship my PCs with a Redo! DVD containing the "factory" image.
[06:38] <Ray> partition training just by the chat, what....
[06:38] <Ray> timm Make sure you've unmounted the partition.
[06:39] <Ray> any responds?
[06:40] <timmm> Im gunna send you a screenshot of what ive got
[06:41] <Ray> Great
[06:41] <apos> k
[06:42] <Ray> i assume youre uploading the image and giving me the link? ok
[06:42] <damian_^> hi, where can i find a global menu for xfce xubuntu? there is a few ppa's but none seem to be up to date for quantal...
[06:43] <timmm> Yup ray
[06:43] <Ray> haha
[06:43] <apos> sudo apt-get install main-menu?
[06:44] <damian_^> apparently there is an indicator-applet-appmenu but i cant find that either...
[06:44] <apos> thats broken
[06:45] <apos> i say use main-menu and organize the launcher menu to your liking?
[06:45] <apos> or are you trying to do something else?
[06:45] <Ray> not a good idea, but its needed.
[06:46] <zaraki> my wifi isnt working on ubuntu 12.04 lts, but working on other OS. solutions?
[06:46] <damian_^> sorry apos was that to me?
[06:46] <apos> yeah
[06:46] <Ray> zaraki you dont yet installed the wireless driver i suppose...
[06:47] <apos> zaraki,  try installing ndis wrapper, otherwise we'll need to know what chipset it uses
[06:47] <timmm> Http://imgur.com/DPEWbch
[06:47] <Ray> ok
[06:47] <zaraki> ok
[06:47] <damian_^> sorry,  by global menu i mean that osx style file, edit, etc, in the panel
[06:48] <apos> timmm,  go into windows cmd and run chkdsk /f
[06:48] <apos> ur windows is borked
[06:48] <apos> a lil
[06:49] <apos> or you could install testdisk but id rather have windows fix windows
[06:49] <Ray> yeah, i supposed it to,
[06:49] <Ray> otherwise, chkdsk and shrink/resize from windows
[06:50] <apos> i dont think windows disk management will let you resize the system partition
[06:50] <damian_^> will gnome panel applets work in xfce somehow?
[06:50] <timmm> Windows is firing up
[06:50] <Ray> oh, i forgot it!
[06:50] <apos> damian_^,  i heared of new support for that in xfce but i know nothing about it
[06:51] <Ray> itself, the local disk c
[06:51] <damian_^> ill do a search :)
[06:51] <Ray> haha, resizing mounted and "itself" partition-_-
[06:52] <Ray> so, you're win partition makes the installation step stuck?
[06:52] <timmm> Yup
[06:53] <timmm> I cant go anywhere when i try and. Use the installer
[06:53] <Ray> ohm, okay
[06:53] <timmm> Its set up so i dont have any free hard drive space
[06:53] <Ray> try to use another partition, could you..?
[06:54] <apos> timmm,  go into windows cmd and run chkdsk /f
[06:55] <Ray> chkdsk /f, by the way, what the meaning of "/f? param..? i dont know
[06:55] <apos> fix
[06:56] <timmm> It says acsess denied as you do not have suffiect privallages. You have to invoke this utility in elvated mode.
[06:56] <apos> your not an admin
[06:56] <timmm> No i am.
[06:56] <apos> then your windows is a lot worse off than we thought
[06:56] <Ray> are you an Admin..?
[06:57] <timmm> Yes i am.
[06:57] <Ray> it just makes the progress stuck
[06:57] <Ray> try different partition, would you..?
[06:57] <timmm> Which one?
[06:58] <Ray> depending on the SCreenshot,
[06:58] <nomoney4u> Hello there.  Can anyone help me set up my computer? I recently made a switch over to Ubuntu 12.10 from Windows and realized that I don't have the drivers for my graphic card.  Do I need it?
[06:58] <apos> at this point ur windows is broken, not letting you run chkdsk. from here you need to talk to the guys in ##windows
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> nomoney4u: if you want to get any power from it then yeah
[06:58] <zaraki> ndiswrapper asked to install new driver, select 'inf' file. my comp has only ubuntu currently what to do?
[06:58] <Ray> dev/sda2..??
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> zaraki: you can extract drivers from the windows exes.
[06:59] <nomoney4u> aeon-ltd: So in my case, my graphic card is an ATI 4850 512mb.  Would I search for a linux driver for it?
[07:00] <apos> zaraki,  if its an internal wifi run "sudo lspci" or if USB run "sudo lsusb" and let us know what chipset the wifi is
[07:00] <timmm> I just ran command propt with admin permissions and i gave up some stuff
[07:00] <aeon-ltd> !ati
[07:00] <aeon-ltd> nomoney4u: there
[07:01] <nomoney4u> Thank you both of you.
[07:01] <nomoney4u> oops, that was a bot :P
[07:01] <aeon-ltd> :)
[07:01] <apos> it happens
[07:01] <zaraki> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
[07:01] <zaraki> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
[07:01] <zaraki> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 03)
[07:01] <zaraki> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
[07:01] <zaraki> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[07:01] <FloodBot1> zaraki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <zaraki> 0e:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[07:01] <apos> whoa there nelly ur gonna get urself kicked
[07:01] <Ray> haha
[07:01] <timmm> Apos, got it runnig
[07:02] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | zaraki
[07:02] <apos> timmm,  restart the mnachine, let chkdsk /f run then boot back into xubuntu n try gparted again
[07:02] <kewel> lubuntu 12.04 on p3 1ghz 512mb -- downgraded to java 6 .. and I still can't get the java games on pogo to work .. is this a lost cause?
[07:02] <apos> so zaraki  is using a BCM4322 chipset
[07:03] <kewel> [pogo.com]
[07:03] <apos> kewel,  whats the address? ill try it on mine
[07:03] <kewel> ^^=)
[07:04] <Ray> how about looking drivers up on Jockey-gtk or -kde?
[07:04] <zaraki> so, what do u want me to do?
[07:05] <timmm> There was some corrupt stuff
[07:05] <Ray> huh..
[07:05] <timmm> Still going
[07:06] <Ray> ok, just get back to xubuntu, gparted, choose dev/sda (unmount it) and resize it
[07:06] <timmm> i willl when its done.
[07:06] <kewel> can anyone think of a cool website I can test my java inst on? games or something?
[07:07] <Ray> i recommend 20-30 Gb on it, if you want.
[07:07] <apos> zaraki,  check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896713
[07:07] <timmm> Ray i think i will do 80
[07:08] <Ray> yeah, but the sda2 is not enough for it, is it "66 GB"..? i cant see it
[07:09] <apos> kewel,  i am able to play bloons2 on pogo.com
[07:09] <kewel> apos: what kinda puter you got?
[07:09] <Ray> 106687f74a1273d.v
[07:09] <apos> this machine is a basiclly fresh xubuntu 12.04 install
[07:09] <kewel> cpu ram?
[07:10] <apos> core2 duo, 3GB
[07:10] <kewel> Is java friggin my puter up?
[07:10] <kewel> piii1ghz 512mb
[07:10] <apos> i am using firefox
[07:10] <kewel> =(
[07:10] <apos> 512 is very low
[07:10] <Ray> haha timm dont  give up
[07:10] <kewel> firefox is too slow on this .. I'm using chrome
[07:11] <apos> you need to add at least another 256 to that machine to expect pogo to work
[07:11] <nomoney4u> Would anyone of you recommend doing gaming over virtualbox rather than dual booting to windows?
[07:11] <kewel> that's what I figured
[07:11] <kewel> that's what I'll tell my roomie
[07:11] <kewel> java is as java does
[07:11] <kewel> my momma always said
[07:11]  * kewel has a wonderful, nurturing mother
[07:12] <kewel> and a dumb sense of humor
[07:12] <Ray> haha
[07:12] <kewel> alright
[07:12] <kewel> me not my mom
[07:12] <kewel> ANYWAYS
[07:12] <kewel> does java fuxx0r up my system when I'm not running java apps?
[07:13] <Gorroth> hi
[07:13] <apos> you will definately know when java is in use, otherwise it wont do much but take up space
[07:13] <kewel> that's what I thought.  neato.
[07:13] <Ray> i live at java, using java~
[07:13] <Gorroth> i'm using the ATI Gallium drivers, but there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and i don't see the gallium drivers setup under /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/.  where is this info?
[07:14] <Gorroth> because i'm trying to use xrandr or change the configs manually to select the proper primary display in my dual monitor setup
[07:14] <damian_^> can someone please try decipher how to find the ppa related to this package?   https://launchpad.net/~nilarimogard/+archive/test/+build/3966766
[07:14] <zaraki> tar (child): hybrid-portsrc-x86_32_5_10_27_6.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory, apos?
[07:14] <damian_^> i cant find the appropriate ppa on that page...
[07:15] <apos> zaraki,  type ls and make sure the file is in the folder your currently in
[07:16] <Spanky100> Java has really kicked some people in the booty crack these last couple of weeks.  More holes than a pile of swiss cheeese...
[07:16] <Ray> haha
[07:17] <eoin_> hey anyone know anything about subtle tiling window manager?
[07:17] <Spanky100> I had three clients with problems related to Java exploits with trojans, malware, viruses likely coming through Java...
[07:17] <Spanky100> All in past two weeks.
[07:18] <apos> damian_^,  my guess would be to look / ask this guy: https://launchpad.net/~lamont
[07:18] <Ray> java??
[07:18] <wector> How install fln
[07:18] <dr_willis> ill take a double latte
[07:18] <Ray> yeah sometime it makes me daft~
[07:18] <Spanky100> What I don't understand is why there is not an automated update for Java on the 64-bit version of Windows.  Not a good idea as that is probably the more popular version of Windows right now.
[07:18] <dr_willis> wector: whats fln
[07:19] <Ray> yeah, you right
[07:19] <wector> This is a post nuclear rpg
[07:20] <Ray> i dont really far knowing about java code
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: ask the question succeeding that question
[07:20] <apos> Spanky100,  its not listed as a recommended update?
[07:20] <dr_willis> wector: so its a linux game?
[07:20] <eoin_> ok, how do i get to the linux mint irc?
[07:20] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: ##linuxmint
[07:20] <Ray> but my laptop seems getting "java exception" when i try to run my fav apps
[07:20] <eoin_> in x chat i cant see it in the network list
[07:21] <apos> i wasnt away mint had its own irc server
[07:21] <apos> aware*
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> eoin_: ? it's on freenode
[07:21] <dr_willis> their main channel is not in freenode
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> oh
[07:22] <dr_willis> !mint
[07:22] <Ray> different distro
[07:22] <apos> !ubuntustudio
[07:23] <Ray> its like you disscussing about red hat, suse, some others.
[07:24] <Ray> tim123 = timmm?
[07:24] <tim123> Yup
[07:24] <Ray> same source
[07:25] <eoin_> ok still lost how exactly do i get to linuxmint-help
[07:26] <apos> point your xchat to connect to irc.spotchat.org
[07:27] <dr_willis> or click on the link'  if that showed as a link
[07:27] <Ray> Dynamic Topic
[07:28] <Pie_> hi all
[07:28] <virusuy> Pie_: 'sup !
[07:29] <Pie_> whats going today ?
[07:29] <apos> !ot
[07:30] <Ray> wanna ask, better go here instead of the forum-_- waiting for answers
[07:30] <tim123> So got an install
[07:30] <tim123> :D
[07:30] <Ray> installed tim123..?
[07:30] <tim123> Just about
[07:31] <Ray> hoping succesful
[07:31] <omkar_> exit
[07:31] <tim123> I hope
[07:31] <blackheart> sir today i istalled ubuntu 12.10 and tried to remove unity with sudo apt-get remove unity* and sudo apt-get autoremove when i  restarted no ita dialog box comes says uable to detect garphics adpter  display and input devices i can navigate as keybord dosent works here so please help me to get ubuntu running with awesome wm
[07:31] <Pie_> do Ubuntu has Ambassdors like Fedora did ?
[07:31] <apos> tim123,  if thats not a junker of a PC i would *highly* recommend Ubuntu Studio. same look and feel, less headache
[07:31] <Ray> haha
[07:31] <apos> Pie_,  i believe so
[07:32] <tim123> Its a netbook -_-
[07:32] <Pie_> apos, can you tell how to join them
[07:32] <apos> then xubuntu was the best choice
[07:32] <apos> ubuntu.com
[07:32] <Ray> blackheart why you did you removed unity..?
[07:33] <apos> cuz he didnt like it?
[07:33] <blackheart> low system  =_=
[07:33] <badday> I have trouble to start programs with Sugar 0.90 from the official ubuntu sources, is it recommended to use the outdated version of the official sources? I use ubuntu 12.04 ARM
[07:33] <Ray> haha
[07:34] <Ray> you cant remove unity instead of change it
[07:34] <apos> i have *never* seen sugar work.
[07:34] <Ray> sugar? work?
[07:34] <cub> sugar tastes best in tea
[07:34] <blackheart> so sir i installed unity again then also same dialog box comming
[07:35] <Ray> then we better moving to ##culiner :D
[07:35] <apos> blackheart,  if you can get to a command line interface, tyope sudo apt-get install awesome && sudo apt-get awesome-extra
[07:36] <badday> apos: well, sugar itself seems to run well
[07:36] <Ray> blackheart when you uninstall & install unity, few of packages are lost
[07:36] <apos>  type sudo apt-get install awesome && sudo apt-get install awesome-extra
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> i would not recommend tiling for those who aren't used to tiling
[07:37] <blackheart> ok i am just upgrading unity with command line
[07:37] <blackheart> *ubuntu
[07:37]  * washuu_de is back (gone 1105406:58:06)
[07:37] <blackheart> @ray can i manuly install them
[07:38] <tim123> Hey ray can i acsess my media on the windows partion or do i need to move it to the linux partion?
[07:38] <Ray> btw, im still on Junior High know... haha
[07:38] <kostkon> blackheart, also try giving:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[07:38] <K5MWG> ?
[07:38] <Ray> tim123 YOU definitely can access them from xubuntu
[07:39] <apos> tim123,  yes linux can play with the windows files but dont hold your breath on windows getting along with linux
[07:39] <antonio_> hey folks
[07:39] <Guest24437> good morning
[07:39] <tim123> Okay thanks.
[07:39] <Ray> at my country, its evening
[07:39] <Guest24437> is someone out there to explain me a liite thing?
[07:39] <doomperdicion1> .
[07:39] <doomperdicion1> .
[07:39] <Guest24437> okay here its morning xD
[07:40] <antonio_> Ray, where at?
[07:40] <Ray> :D
[07:40] <Guest24437> than i say hello
[07:40] <dr_willis> !ask
[07:40] <doomperdicion1> .
[07:40] <tim123> Its 3AM here in canada
[07:40] <Ray> haha,
[07:40] <Guest24437> thx ill write it down :-d takes a moment
[07:40] <blackheart> its 1.10 pm in india :P
[07:40] <Ray> aah, sorry its afternoon now not evening
[07:41] <tim123> Yes i am canadain, i dont live in an igloo.
[07:41] <badday>  blackheart: and sunny here in delhi ;)
[07:41] <blackheart> xD
[07:42] <Ray> oooh, i called  my mother and unfortunately its my sister's friend -_-
[07:42] <Ray> here 2 AM
[07:43] <badday> back to topic, guys
[07:43] <Ray> 2 pm
[07:43] <cub> how to make unity run faster?
[07:43] <badday> Ray | !ask
[07:43] <Guest24437> So here we go. Im totally new to ubunut but i want to realize the following situation. Atm im runnning Win7. n my computer there are 3 hard drives with various partitions. On one of the hard drives i have a unpartitioned area, and here is where id like to install ubuntu. Note that this partion is NOT on the drive where win is installed. It shoulkd end up with a dualboot system. So i go to intall ubunut manually and ad
[07:43] <Ray> !ask
[07:44] <apos> cub,  reduce swapiness and move tempfs to RAM
[07:44]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[07:44]  * washuu_de is back (gone 00:00:01)
[07:44] <apos> try diff grfx drivers?
[07:44] <Ray> use "My Unity" decrease the size and its transparenity
[07:45] <cub> how do i do that
[07:45] <Ray> its an App
[07:45] <cub> apos?
[07:45] <cub> yes Ray i've used it
[07:45] <cub> and my graphics chip isnt supported so it really didnt help much
[07:45] <Ray> bloody right you do
[07:45] <eoin_> how many people are happy with unity as it is now?
[07:45] <apos> cub,  http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html
[07:46] <Ray> many people, definitely
[07:46] <apos> i ditched unity almost immediately. i keep trying it out as a touch screen OS but im just not happy with the menu
[07:46] <Ray> yeah, now im downloading gnome3
[07:47] <apos> xfce = boss
[07:47] <eoin_> same as me apos ubuntu is great linux distro it's just that UI
[07:47] <Ray> sometime bored with this unirt
[07:47] <cub> yeah the menu is crap
[07:47] <cub> my hardware is what is really giving me the problem tho
[07:47] <apos> xfce would be a better option over unity
[07:48] <Ray> haha its because your hardware, probabky
[07:48] <cub> im sure because i used a fedora live cd on my laptop, which has better hardware, and it uses a gnome desktop like unity,
[07:48] <cub> ran fine
[07:48] <Guest24437> anyone?
[07:48] <cub> very fast even for livecd.. so i am sure its my hardware, but im trying to figure out a way to make the best
[07:48] <apos> then replace unity with xfce and be happy
[07:48] <cub> i used lxde , and kde, i dont like them
[07:48] <cub> lol
[07:49] <apos> or use fedora. not my cup of teea but its not terrible
[07:49] <eoin_> is fedora 18 any good haven't tried it yet
[07:49] <apos> ubuntu studio = god
[07:49] <cub> couldnt install anything else on here except ubuntu as thats the only CD i have... dvd burner doesnt work
[07:49] <cub> lol
[07:49] <cub> or reader for that matter
[07:50] <Ray> due on my connection... its too slow, im supine on that DE
[07:50] <apos> no thumbdrives?
[07:50] <cub> well yes but i couldnt get it to boot from my usb  drive
[07:50] <apos> no old hard drives you dont care about?
[07:50] <cub> tried setting it in bios and it couldnt figure it out
[07:50] <cub> yeah thats what i installed linux on lol
[07:50] <cub> my windows hard drive is dying
[07:50] <cub> so im on a very small AND old hardddrive
[07:50] <cub> 15gb :\
[07:50] <Ray> you can use gnome3 from USC, could you?
[07:50] <apos> in BIOS enable legacy support. that outta fix the boot issued USB
[07:51] <apos> ......this keyboard is nutty
[07:51] <kostkon> cub, 15gb is extremely low nowadays
[07:51] <apos> enable USB legacy support*
[07:51] <Ray> yeah
[07:52] <dr_willis> ive ran my whole ubuntu install from 32gb flash drives befor. ;)
[07:52] <Ray> anyone here uses Mythbuntu or Edubuntu..?
[07:52] <cub> i know
[07:52] <cub> this is a pos machine
[07:52] <cub> :\
[07:52] <apos> i dont own any hard drives. all my computers run from 16gb & 8gb USB thumbdrives formatted in ext2
[07:52] <cub> 15gb hd, 1gb ram, intel graphics chip..
[07:52] <cub> dvd reader doesnt work
[07:53] <apos> edubuntu is only usefull in large deployments
[07:53] <cub> some usb ports dont work
[07:53] <Ray> wow
[07:53] <cub> just junk )
[07:53] <Ray> haha
[07:53] <cub> but the guy who sold it to me for 200 something said "everything is working perfectly!"
[07:53] <tim123> We got xubuntu
[07:53] <apos> yay!
[07:53] <Ray> installed tim..??
[07:53] <cub> i might try xfce
[07:53] <dr_willis> If you were near to me cub id give you about 6 old pcs ;)
[07:53] <Ray> haha, how rich
[07:54] <cub> haha dr_willis, the donation would be appreciated for just one working one lol
[07:54] <dr_willis> I picked up 3 from the trash a few months back
[07:54] <Ray> haha
[07:54] <dr_willis> 1 of those worked..  ;)
[07:54] <cub> actually the machine i paid for was much better than this one, but the motherboard gave out
[07:54] <cri_> come funziona la vpn su xubuntu?
[07:54] <Ray> and you keep it dr_willis..?
[07:54] <cub> i was running ubuntu on it, had compiz and everythuing as my nvidia card was supported. But the guy got cheap
[07:54] <tim123> Ray we are good
[07:55] <Ray> woohoo
[07:55] <dr_willis> They are all  going on the rummage sale in the spring.
[07:55] <cub> instead of fixing my machine he gave me another one of "equal value", without the video card", and less memory
[07:55] <cub> he gave me a larger hd  tho , which now is dying.. so
[07:55] <tim123> Thanks to everyone who helped me
[07:55] <dr_willis> 15gb was a larger hd?
[07:55] <dr_willis> thats scary
[07:55] <Ray> woow haha xD
[07:56] <cub> lol no actually i have a 80 gb hard drive on here
[07:56] <Ray> rofl
[07:56] <apos> any one have a 2.5" hard drive they could spare?
[07:56] <cub> yes it's still small, the original was 40 gb, he upgraded to 80 (he said for free), gave me less memory, and kept the nvidia graphics card...
[07:56] <cub> this is years back  tho
[07:57] <Coffeecoco> apos i got one
[07:57] <Coffeecoco> pickup only
[07:57] <apos> ill pay to shipo
[07:57] <dr_willis> You may want to Upgrade to a Raspberry Pi. ;)
[07:57] <Coffeecoco> from au
[07:58] <apos> what part?
[07:58] <apos> any were near perth?
[07:58] <Coffeecoco> na im sorry im a bastard i didnt think you was for real
[07:58] <Coffeecoco> im in melb btw
[07:58] <cub> aww
[07:58] <Ray> hey, anyone now using alias for the term now?
[07:59] <dr_willis> Ray:  what?
[07:59] <inverse> how do i install WarCraft III on Ubuntu
[07:59] <inverse> :-/
[07:59] <Ray> dr_willis : alias
[08:00] <Ray> dr_willis : alias for terminal
[08:00] <Ray> dr_willis : alias... the .bash file
[08:01] <Ray> im still missunderstand with the .profile
[08:03] <dr_willis> Ray:  thers numerous guides on making bash alias's for differnt things
[08:04] <dr_willis> Ray:  .profile is read at the first login i recall..  unless .bashrc exists
[08:04] <Ray> thats why ive said that im  not understand yet... its, to complicated but complex
[08:05] <dr_willis> i dont see whats complex about it... it reads .profile...    unless .bashrc exists.. then it uses .bashrc instead.
[08:05] <dr_willis> put some  'echo this is  .profile' at the top of the .profile file. and so on with other files to see whats getting loaded when
[08:05] <Ray> ok
[08:07] <Ray> should i add the Hashtag dr_willis..?
[08:07] <Ray> "#"
[08:07] <dr_willis> Ray:  Huh?
[08:07] <dr_willis>   You may want to read up on some bash scripting guides.
[08:07] <dr_willis> # this is a comment.. its not ran.
[08:08] <dr_willis> echo this is ran.. its a command..
[08:08] <Ray> oh... i see
[08:08] <dr_willis> # echo - this dosent get ran,....
[08:08] <dr_willis> this is very very much bash basics. ;)
[08:09] <Ray> how can i see the the command run?
[08:09] <dr_willis> see wht command run?
[08:09] <Ray> the 'echo this is  .profile' command.
[08:09] <dr_willis> that will get printed when you login
[08:09] <dr_willis> IF it runs .profile
[08:09] <dr_willis> logical eh?
[08:10] <Ray> what? partition?
[08:10] <Ray> i use primary for my ubuntu
[08:10] <dr_willis> Partition? huh? you seem to be jumping around..
[08:11] <Ray> i think "logical" thats it jumping to the partition
[08:11] <Ray> haha
[08:11] <jrtappers> I have a strange X related problem. I have two X sessions running, changing from ctrl+alt+7 to ctrl+alt+8 blanks the 7 screen, but the other way round leaves the 8 screen frozen
[08:11] <Ray> if i log out now, the browser closed :/
[08:12] <dr_willis> open a new terminal - it will reread some of the bash init scripts
[08:12] <Ray> nothing happen
[08:13] <dr_willis> the aparently it didenbt run .profile ;)
[08:13] <dr_willis> since .profile is only ran by 'login shells'
[08:13] <jrtappers> I have two monitors, one X session on each
[08:14] <Ray> ok i see, tks for the bash basic knowledge
[08:14] <dr_willis> ive never used seperate X sessions that way jrtappers .   so no  idea on it
[08:15] <jrtappers> dr_willis, I have integrated on open source drivers and a graphics card on propietary, so two X sessions is neccessary it seems
[08:15] <Ray> is there any channels talking about screenlet? i know this is funny but how it works -_-
[08:16] <Ray> wow, two graphics driver active?
[08:16] <dr_willis> you mean the screenlets desktop widgits?
[08:16] <jrtappers> Ray, yes
[08:16] <Ray> yeah
[08:16] <Ray> desktop widget
[08:17] <Ray> jrtappers : it might be crash or conflict
[08:17] <jrtappers> Ray, intel integrated on open source and a 7770 on closed source
[08:17] <Ray> no idea :/
[08:18] <jrtappers> Ray, its running now, its just odd that changing 7 to 8 blanks 7, but 8 to 7 leaves 8 frozen
[08:18] <jrtappers> Ray, so at the moment that screen is for things that do not change
[08:19] <Ray> im using single card and driver :/ jrtappers
[08:19] <Ray> this is insane
[08:19] <Ray> xD
[08:19] <jrtappers> Ray, so was I until yesterday, then I decided to try to get monitor 3 working
[08:20] <jrtappers> Ray, The cool thing is that I can have different window managers on the different screens
[08:21] <Ray> jrtappers : in single machine.?
[08:21] <hehateme> ive installed wine 1.5.5 through a tarball but my exe wont associate with wine and i dont have the option on a right click
[08:21] <jrtappers> Ray, yes
[08:22] <jrtappers> hehateme, have you tried installing wine program loader from the software center?
[08:22] <dr_willis> hehateme:  you mean you compiled from source?
[08:22] <Ray> its recommended you to install wine from aptitude or ubuntu soft. cent.
[08:22] <hehateme> yes i used ./tools/wine installer
[08:23] <antonio_> I
[08:23] <antonio_> I'm having a weird issue.  I was just using gimp...problem is one of the windows can
[08:24] <antonio_> can't be moved...the top of it is pushed over the top of the screen..like this http://s98.beta.photobucket.com/user/con_movies/media/Screenshotfrom2013-01-26222101_zps310cb887.png.html
[08:24] <antonio_> how can I adjust this?
[08:24] <hehateme> i had to install 1.5.5 cause its not in the software center only 1.5.2
[08:24] <dr_willis> alt-click on the window anywhere and drag it back perhaps?
[08:24] <dr_willis> hehateme:  winehq has a ppa with newer versions I belive
[08:25] <hehateme> i used the ppa and only 1.5.2 is avalable on it
[08:25] <jrtappers> Is there a way to keep a TTY running in the background? That might be the first step
[08:25] <liquidmetal> I'm looking for an application indicator that can display the output of a shellscript I made - does anyone know something like that?
[08:25] <jrtappers> hehateme, why do you need 1.5.5?
[08:25] <Ray> whatt..??
[08:25] <antonio_> never mind, got it
[08:25] <Ray> yeah haha
[08:25] <dr_willis> theres example indicator-applets code writen in python ive seen on the askubuntu.com indicator-applet list
[08:25] <hehateme> i need it for the .net framework 4.0 that it can support
[08:26] <dr_willis> you can always fallback to running wine via the command line...   wine /path/to/your.exe
[08:26] <dr_willis> i rarely double click on a .exe to run it. ;)
[08:27] <Ray> Terminal-man
[08:27] <dr_willis> given the huge # of times wine fails ;)  double clicking often shows nothing.
[08:28] <kouriinu> i keep getting an (-5006 : 0x8000ffff)error when i try to install a game why
[08:28] <dr_willis> I can only think of like 2 apps i normally use in wine also. so i dont use it much any more
[08:28] <hehateme> i get an error message about stack overflow
[08:28] <dr_willis> kouriinu:  what game and how are you installing it?
[08:28] <liquidmetal> anyone know an appindicator for ubuntu that can display whatever I provide?
[08:28] <kouriinu> fall out 3 and i am trying to install it with wine
[08:29] <Ray> check for the compatibility at winehq
[08:29] <dr_willis> liquidmetal:  you mean an indicator-applet?  theres ones written in python you can change to do whatever you want
[08:29] <apos> it'll be the apocalypse by the time you get that running
[08:29] <jrtappers> liquidmetal, you could try using notify if you are at shell
[08:30] <apos> this year should be the start of linux gaming but it hasnt happened yet
[08:30] <Ray> its provided by steam??
[08:30] <dr_willis> hmm.. just saw some posting about CS and  Halflife on linux steam now...
[08:30] <liquidmetal> jrtappers: what do you mean notify?
[08:30] <kepler> apos, http://steamforlinux.com/
[08:30] <kouriinu> i dont know
[08:30] <apos> yes thats one of them
[08:31] <apos> then theres the steambox and the ouya
[08:31] <dr_willis> !appdb |  kouriinu
[08:31] <Ray> yeah, i wonder that linux for games... it was greatful
[08:31] <kouriinu> i just want to install it
[08:31] <hehateme> i cant get an older wine to completely remove
[08:31] <jrtappers> liquidmetal, "notify-send Hello Hello"
[08:31] <jrtappers> run that
[08:31] <apos> and blizard is making a linux game this year. Id has always been down with linux
[08:31] <liquidmetal> jrtappers: ah... don't want to do that
[08:32] <dr_willis> liquidmetal:  some details on what you want to do would be helpfull.
[08:32] <spacecase> hello!  Is there any way to share my wifi connection to my ethernet jack? in ubuntu?
[08:32] <kouriinu> yeah that site hasnt helped me
[08:32] <dr_willis> !ics | spacecase
[08:32] <timfrost> jrtappers: screen may be what you want for ' Is there a way to keep a TTY running in the background? '
[08:32] <jrtappers> I would like L4D2 on steam for linux, that would be good, seeing as tit was theri first test game, and its not on the store
[08:32] <dr_willis> not even played L4D on windows. ;)  its too scary......
[08:32] <liquidmetal> dr_willis: I wrote a quick script that logs into my ISP can calculates the data I've used. It would be awesome if that number can show up on top and refresh every few hours or so.
[08:32] <jrtappers> timfrost, tried screen, this is to keep an X session running on a second monitor
[08:33] <wildc4rd> just with the resource use I can understand it, in windows, 2.5 gig of my 8 gig RAM is used just at desktop, with ubuntu its about 500 meg
[08:33] <dr_willis> liquidmetal:  use conky and have it run your script every 20 min.. it will be on the desktop
[08:33] <apos> spacecase,  click your wifi signal -> edit -> select wired _> tell it to share
[08:33] <Snakevincy> ciao
[08:33] <Snakevincy> !list
[08:34] <dr_willis> liquidmetal:  you could also make it do a notification every 60 min.. if needed
[08:34] <liquidmetal> looking into that too... found this: http://www.eurion.net/python-snippets/snippet/Create%20an%20Application%20Indicator.html
[08:35] <liquidmetal> dr_willis: a more general question - how do decide if you want to put something in the top bar or the desktop?
[08:35] <timfrost> jrtappers: can't help then.  Xsession != TTY
[08:35] <Ray> gotcha
[08:35] <dr_willis> liquidmetal:  indicator-applets go in the top panel.  theres numerous widgits things like conky you can have drawn on the desktop
[08:35] <Ray> just logging in from xchat :D
[08:35] <jrtappers> timfrost, Just trying to get some clues
[08:36] <user_> test
[08:36] <user_> now im Ray
[08:37] <wildc4rd> is there any way I can get GKrellM to always be on top of other windows?
[08:37] <Chiko> what is the best way to have a program run on startup on ubuntu 12.04.1 lts ?
[08:37] <dr_willis> it used to have a dock mode wher it would make other windows resize around it ages ago wildc4rd .. not used it in years
[08:37] <user_> SCreenlet
[08:37] <Snakevincy> ciao
[08:38] <Snakevincy> !list
[08:38] <Chiko> also would be good to see the output of each program i've been using screen so far
[08:38] <dr_willis> getting out some of the old skool apps tonight. ;)
[08:38] <Chiko> just want something that will run on startup as well as in the background
[08:38] <wildc4rd> lol
[08:38] <dr_willis> Chiko:  what kind of program...
[08:38] <user_> background..?
[08:38] <dr_willis> Chiko:  its all in the details ;)
[08:38] <user_> it must be an Antivirus... if u use windows xD
[08:38] <kamidi> user_ (Ray) = TrollBot?
[08:39] <Chiko> didn't think that would apply but sure it's a server application that handles multiple connections whilst writing to the console showing server like information :P
[08:39] <user_> what, Trollbot????
[08:39] <dr_willis> Chiko:   X app? terminal app? used by a user? or as root?
[08:39] <ZadYree> Hello!
[08:39] <Chiko> terminal app
[08:39] <liquidmetal> thanks dr_willis!
[08:40] <Chiko> user/root don't care probably root
[08:40] <dr_willis> Chiko:   you could start it from /etc/rc.local  and spawn it as root or a user. and have it log to a file.. then just tail the log file as needed.
[08:40] <dr_willis> Chiko:  or spawn a screen session in rc.local for it. you could then connect to. if its more interactive
[08:40] <ZadYree> I'd like to know if there is an easy way of kernel upgrading, under 12.10
[08:40] <Chiko> screen may be better yeah
[08:41] <Chiko> so /etc/rc.local to launch whatever i want on startup?
[08:41] <dr_willis> ZadYree:  best to stick to the kernels in the repos.. there are some experimental kernel ppa's i belive.
[08:41] <dr_willis> Chiko:  that will run them on bootup yes.
[08:41] <Chiko> is there anything else? i'm under the impression there is several ways of doing this under linux
[08:41] <Chiko> something jobs~
[08:41] <dr_willis> theres always several ways to do somthing.. it depends on the details
[08:41] <kepler> cron jobs?
[08:41] <Chiko> yeah those
[08:42] <ZadYree> dr_willis, I assume a recent one would be more appropriate regarding my hardware
[08:42] <dr_willis> cron runs a command on a regular basis.. but  i dont rcall ever seeing cron used to start a screen session
[08:42] <kepler> cron is a scheduler, so it wont open something at startup...well, cron starts at startup, but the task occurs when it is told to
[08:42] <dr_willis> ZadYree:  you could always trh the ppas i guess.. or see if 13.04 newer kenrnel works.
[08:42] <ZadYree> Okay!
[08:42] <tigrakos> hello i have install rtorrent with webui in my server and its work fine when i install zpanel and i try to go mysite/rutorrent i get this SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length. ! thanks!
[08:43] <Chiko> yeah could come in handy for another app though
[08:43] <ZadYree> I thought it was possible to do with the native software set ;)
[08:43] <hehateme> i cant get wine completely off my system
[08:43] <Chiko> i have a health checker currently which just sits and checks the other apps every so often thinking it may be worthwhile to have it run and close handled by the cron..or not
[08:43] <dr_willis> ZadYree:  you can compile your own kernel.. you asked for  an EASY way
[08:44] <ZadYree> hehe, I may be lead to do that if it's the only solution :P
[08:44] <dr_willis> compiling your own kernel is not 'easy'
[08:44] <dr_willis> and you could test a newer kenrle via a 13.04 live cd. if you wanted to save some time
[08:44] <ZadYree> indeed
[08:45] <ZadYree> I may do this first
[08:45] <kepler> feature in the new kernel you need?
[08:45] <FlyOnZeWall> Chiko, when you say "apps", so you mean programs running in the GUI?
[08:45] <ZadYree> support for my laptop features
[08:46] <ZadYree> Had to code several syscalls which need to be called as root, so... key layouts may be better hehe
[08:46] <mvk> i had a little problem with ubuntu lastnight, my notebook was running out of battery while being DISCONnected from a powersource
[08:47] <mvk> then got stuck in a bootloop; i think it wanned to hibernate..
[08:47] <mhs> How to install and use Micromax 353g data card in Ubuntu 12.10?
[08:47] <Chiko> FlyOnZeWall: apps referring to programs i write in c++/c# that only work with the console
[08:47] <mvk> so i was waken up by the sound of my 2k laptop.. stuck in bootloop
[08:47] <mvk> you can imagine better ways to be woken up with..
[08:48] <Chiko> I'm not using the GUI just using a hosted vps
[08:48] <Chiko> and running services from it
[08:48] <mvk> how do i prefent my notebook from going into hibernation, are there any ways to test hibernation / check some log?
[08:48] <mvk> prevent
[08:50] <FlyOnZeWall> Chiko, ok, then for the record I'd like to state that "apps" is one of, if not the, most ambiguous trend word in the software development area atm =P
[08:51] <Chiko> I was just going for a general as the "app" isn't important :P
[08:52] <cirwin> everytime I log in, an Ubuntu One popup appears
[08:52] <cirwin> how do I stop it?
[08:52] <Chiko> I just wanted feedback on running things on startup =P
[08:52] <cirwin> :)
[08:52]  * cirwin takes the poor-man's approach to running things at startup. Assign them keyboard shortcuts :)
[08:53] <helmut_> hi
[08:57] <dr_willis> Chiko:  make your apps into actual servces that log to log files may be a better approach
[08:57] <dr_willis> unless they need tobe interactive
[08:59] <afendiosman> "Need to get 25.1 MB of archives. After this operation, 11.3 kB of additional disk space will be used."  ... why does this mean?
[08:59] <dr_willis> its downloading 25mb of updates.
[08:59] <dr_willis> it will install the updated and only 11.3k of more disk space will be used
[08:59] <hehateme> what does this mean?
[08:59] <hehateme> err:wincodecs:PngEncoder_CreateInstance Trying to save PNG picture, but PNG support is not compiled in
[08:59] <afendiosman> means the only needed update is that 11.3k ?
[09:00] <dr_willis> the binary/data files or whatever of that pacvkage have grown by 11k
[09:00] <dr_willis> hehateme:  and whats saying that? sounds like it dosent have png support compiled in.
[09:01] <inverse> where can i learn more about Ubuntu?
[09:01] <inverse> completely new to it.
[09:01] <dr_willis> !manual | inverse
[09:01] <hehateme> dr_willis from trying to use wine
[09:01] <inverse> thanks.
[09:01] <dr_willis> hehateme:  well whatever is being ran  sounds like it dosent have png support compiled in.
[09:01] <ikonia> inverse: https://help.ubuntu.com
[09:01] <hehateme> so how do i get png support?
[09:02] <blackheart> hey guys i have installed xfce4 but light dm doesnt shows option to switch it it
[09:02] <dr_willis> download whatever it is compiled with png support i guess...
[09:02] <dr_willis> since its a windows app in wine.. its not really s ubuntu limit as far as i can tell
[09:02] <afendiosman> ##winehq for wine specific problem
[09:03] <Chiko> dr_willis: for now i connect over ssh to monitor the current status of the server (updates real time) for future though it will handle api calls and i won't need to view it directly
[09:03] <afendiosman> err #winehq
[09:03] <us3r> how do i find out what version of ubuntu im running? 12.04?
[09:03] <Chiko> dr_willis: hmm an actual service thats what i was interested in
[09:03] <ikonia> us3r: lsb_release -a
[09:04] <blackheart> please help
[09:04] <us3r> thanks!
[09:05] <ESphynx> hey guys... where can I get Ubuntu dev support? :|
[09:05] <ikonia> ESphynx: define "dev support£"
[09:05] <ikonia> support
[09:05] <ESphynx> ikonia I'm trying to get an SRU going
[09:05] <ikonia> ESphynx: right, so what do you need help with ?
[09:06] <ikonia> what have you done so far, and what are you stuck on
[09:06] <User_> hello
[09:06] <ESphynx> ikonia: I'm stuck on the fact that my software is 219 commits apart from the version in Quantal, and at least 25% of those commits are important bug fixes
[09:06] <Gnomex> Hi Guys I need Some help
[09:06] <SomeGuy> Hello
[09:06] <ikonia> ESphynx: what do you expect to happen ?
[09:07] <ESphynx> ikonia: I'm at a loss.
[09:07] <ikonia> ESphynx: apologies, are you trying to get packge updated to a higher version in quantal ?
[09:07] <ikonia> ESphynx: is that the end goal ?
[09:07] <ESphynx> ikonia: my main worry was that the package is uninstallable at the moment on Quantal/64 bit.
[09:07] <Gnomex> i can Update my pakage.. they said like this..  --->> W:GPG error: http://deb.torproject.org quantal InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 74A941BA219EC810, W:Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.offensive-security.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:07] <Gnomex> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/main/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.offensive-security.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:07] <Gnomex> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/microverse/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.offensive-security.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:07] <Gnomex> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/macroverse/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.offensive-security.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:07] <FloodBot1> Gnomex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <Gnomex> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.offensive-security.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:07] <Gnomex> , W:Failed to fetch http://archive.offensive-security.com/dists/pwnsauce/universe/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.offensive-security.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[09:07] <SomeGuy> Trying to switch from Linux Mint 14 Cinnamon over to Ubuntu 12.10..new user here..Cinnamon just has to much stuff on it I don't need, Ubuntu seems easier, if anyone can help message me ( :
[09:08] <ESphynx> ikonia: but as April aproaches, my worry lessens (the problem is already fixed in Raring)
[09:08] <ikonia> ESphynx: sorry, I missed that as Gnomex flooded the channel, can you try again please.
[09:08] <ikonia> SomeGuy: ok - delete mint, install ubuntu, that's how you switch
[09:08] <dr_willis> SomeGuy:  thats a little vague. ;)
[09:08] <SomeGuy> Haha, ya I am having trouble uninstalling mint
[09:08] <Gnomex> i'm not FLood
[09:08] <Gnomex> :-w
[09:08] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  looks like you got a lot of ppas and other repos that are dead.
[09:08] <ikonia> ESphynx: if you have patches that can be included in the CURRENT quantel build, then raise a bug, attach the patches and do a build
[09:08] <apos> Gnomex,  !pastebin
[09:08] <ikonia> it will get reviewed
[09:08] <c0li> use pastebin then
[09:08] <Gnomex> How..?
[09:09] <ikonia> Gnomex: you just flooded the channel with 50 lines of text - you flooded
[09:09] <Chiko> pastebin.com
[09:09] <Gnomex> how can i solved tat
[09:09] <kostkon> !paste | Gnomex
[09:09] <ikonia> ESphynx: if you're trying to get package bumpted from say version 1.2 to 1.4 - my personal view is you are wasting your time.
[09:09] <ESphynx> ikonia: basically, the latest version of the software would work on Quantal... but it's to have it accepted as an SRU that is the problem.
[09:09] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  why do you have all those ectra things added to your system? torproject and  offensive-security.com ?
[09:09] <SomeGuy> I am totally new to these Operating systems ha, running a dual boot at the moment, want to remove Mint without screwing up everything, couldnt find any solid info on how to remove mint properly
[09:09] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  step 1 would be to remove them from your pps's and sources.list
[09:09] <ikonia> ESphynx: are you trying to bump a package from version 1.2 -> 1.4 (for example)
[09:10] <apos> yeah get rid of those ppas since they dont work
[09:10] <dr_willis> SomeGuy:  tell the ubuntu installe rto install over it and reformat its partitions.. backup imporntant stuff first
[09:10] <dr_willis> SomeGuy:  or use gparted from a ubuntu cd. and reformat the partions.
[09:11] <dr_willis> or just delete the partions, and let the installer repartion as it wants
[09:11] <SomeGuy> dr_willis: Ok cool, so when I go to install Ubuntu it will give me the option to install over linux?
[09:12] <Gnomex> dr_willis how can i back to normal pps
[09:12] <dr_willis> the installer has advanced options where you can do whatever you want.
[09:12] <Gnomex> :(
[09:12] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[09:12] <Gnomex> i think i'm try to install some tools
[09:12] <Gnomex> backtrack
[09:12] <Gnomex> :(
[09:13] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  Huh? You dont want to mix repos from differnt  disrtos like that.
[09:13] <ikonia> Gnomex: with respect, you don't know how to run your OS, why are you trying to install security tools
[09:13] <ikonia> Gnomex: it's like trying to build an engine when you can't change a tire
[09:13] <Gnomex> yeah.. i know.. i'm wrong..
[09:13] <Gnomex> like try n error..
[09:13] <ikonia> Gnomex: I would suggest re-installing and getting back to a known good state
[09:14] <Gnomex> i'm just alone here nobody teach me..
[09:14] <ikonia> Gnomex: read
[09:14] <Gnomex> yeah i'm read manual..
[09:14] <ikonia> great, then you should have no problem
[09:14] <Gnomex> something i dunno what means all this..
[09:15] <Gnomex> btw i like Ubuntu..
[09:15] <apos> Gnomex,  https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/
[09:15] <Gnomex> how to i'm purge back pps..??
[09:15] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge  | Gnomex
[09:16] <apos> launcher menu -> settings -> software sources ->
[09:16] <ikonia> Gnomex: re-install
[09:16] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  aparently you knew enough to add all those extra repos and ppas ..  time to remove them.. or backup your imporntant data. and reinstall a clean system  and condider it a lesson in not adding lots of stuff you dont need
[09:16] <ikonia> Gnomex: you are at a bad state,
[09:16] <Gnomex> i'm on Unity now.. can u tell me step by step..
[09:16] <apos> launcher menu -> settings -> software sources ->
[09:16] <apos> oops
[09:17] <ikonia> Gnomex: download ubuntu CD. Burn CD. Boot From CD, install ubuntu over broken install
[09:17] <Gnomex> :( to bad if i must reinstall back..
[09:18] <apos> Gnomex,  erase and clean install Ubuntu Studio. then go to https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/ and download backtrack and use unetbootin to "burn" backtrack onto a USB drive
[09:18] <apos> because who knows what else you might have done to that poor machine
[09:18] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  you are using backtrack now ?  or ubuntu? If you are planing on using backtrack.. i have to wonder WHY...
[09:19] <Gnomex> i'm just trying to install backtrack...
[09:19] <Gnomex> :(
[09:19] <apos> you dont "install" backtrack
[09:19] <dr_willis> Gnomex:   your original question had nothing to do with 'installing backtrack'
[09:19] <ikonia> Gnomex: then this channel is not for you
[09:19] <ikonia> Gnomex: try #backtrack-linux channel
[09:20] <Gnomex> Noo..
[09:20] <dr_willis> actually - isent backtrack ment to be ran from a live cd? not installed?
[09:20] <apos> you dont "install" backtrack
[09:20] <Gnomex> i'm try  to get back Normal Ubuntu
[09:20] <ikonia> Gnomex: then re-install ubuntu
[09:20] <Gnomex> coz cant Update my pakage
[09:20] <apos> i'd reinstall. you can no longer trust that machine
[09:20] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  best would be to reinstall.. who knows what all you have done to your system.
[09:20] <ikonia> Gnomex: you have 2 options 1.) install backtrack linux 2.) install ubuntu, which do you want
[09:21] <dr_willis> i would be 1/2 way done witn a ubuntu install in the time this chatting has been going on
[09:21] <apos> ^^
[09:21] <Gnomex> Ubuntu loor...
[09:21] <ikonia> Gnomex: you have 2 options 1.) install backtrack linux 2.) install ubuntu, which do you want
[09:21] <Gnomex> 2 Install Ubuntu
[09:21] <apos> you dont install backtrack...
[09:21] <Gnomex> Okey..
[09:22] <ikonia> Gnomex: right, download the ubuntu CD, burn it, boot from it, install it
[09:22] <Gnomex> backtrack not Good apos..??
[09:22] <ikonia> Gnomex: that is what you need to do
[09:22] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  why do you even think you need backtrack at all?
[09:22] <Gnomex> to bad if must reinstall back..
[09:22] <ikonia> Gnomex: ok - stop
[09:22] <ikonia> Gnomex: why are you talking about re-installing backtrack
[09:22] <apos> backtrack is a live operating system. you can run backtrack from USB or DVD using a disk imaging program like unetbootin or 'linux 'Live USB Creator.
[09:22] <dr_willis> Gnomex:  now you sound like a broken record.. come back when you  have ubuntu installed.
[09:22] <ikonia> Gnomex: you've just said you wanted to install ubuntu, not backtrack
[09:22] <Gnomex> Not reInstall BackTrack..
[09:22] <liquidmetal> dr_willis: have you written an app indicator like the system load indicator? How can I get the chart/graph thingy.
[09:23] <ikonia> apos: it's also a desktop install
[09:23] <Gnomex> u told me reInstall Ubuntu right
[09:23] <ikonia> Gnomex: yes.
[09:23] <dr_willis> liquidmetal:  nope. i rarely code.  I do recall some indicator-applets at the askubuntu.com site that were similer.
[09:23] <ikonia> Gnomex: so why are you talking about re-installing backtrack
[09:23] <apos> you can but you should NOT
[09:23] <ikonia> nonsense
[09:23] <ikonia> but that is not for this channel
[09:23] <Gnomex> sorry 1st i think  backtrack n ubuntu same system...
[09:24] <Gnomex> but i'm wrong..
[09:24] <Gnomex> :(
[09:24] <apos> ikonia as in the person who thinks ubuntu studio is not an ubuntu OS?
[09:24] <dr_willis> backtrack is not ubuntu..
[09:24] <ikonia> Gnomex: no, they are not
[09:24] <ikonia> Gnomex: so download ubuntu, install ubuntu, and forget about backtrack
[09:24] <ikonia> apos: what ?
[09:24] <Gnomex> i got old Cd Ubuntu..
[09:24] <ikonia> Gnomex: boot from it, install it
[09:24] <apos> arent you the guy who was telling ubuntu studio users they can get help here?
[09:24] <Brainiac> later I had installed the kernel 3.7 mt internet 3G do not install anymore! Any device?
[09:24] <ikonia> apos: no
[09:24] <Gnomex> then Update back pakage..??
[09:24] <dr_willis> Gnomex:   i suggest gettting the latest ubuntu 12.10 version if your cd is very old.
[09:25] <ikonia> Brainiac: 3.7 is not a supported kernel in ubuntu
[09:25] <ikonia> Brainiac: 3.5 is the current supported kernel
[09:25] <Guest24437> hey
[09:25] <Gnomex> can u give link to Download 12.10 lts
[09:25] <dr_willis> !download
[09:25] <afendiosman> ..
[09:25] <Gnomex> Okay.. Thanks Dude..
[09:25] <apos> www.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <Brainiac> ikonia: I saw in a blog to upgrade and did it! My Ubuntu is the 12.10.. Really?
[09:26] <Guest24437> followin problem: i instaalled ubuntu on a second hard drive and also bootlader there accordingly to some suggetions i got here. Now how can i boot from this partition i cant find it in bios
[09:26] <ikonia> Brainiac: then you have followed a blog that suggests downloading and installing software outside the ubuntu stable repos
[09:26] <ikonia> !info linux-image | Brainiac
[09:27] <ikonia> Brainiac: as you can see 3.5 is the current stable kernel image from the official repos
[09:27] <_raven> http://stuke7.piratenpartei-bayern.de:8000/mp3-96.mp3.m3u
[09:27] <dr_willis> Guest24437:  look again.. ive ve seen very few bios's that dont have that feature. Or at the very start/power up ther may be some F keys. or bs, or del, or esc. that may bring up a menu
[09:27] <ikonia> Brainiac: I strongly suggest verifying information before installing software suggested on peoples blogs
[09:27] <Guest24437> yes i get this by using f12 but there is only my "c" drive dvd usb lan etc
[09:28] <Guest24437> no other hard drive
[09:28] <dr_willis> Guest24437:   you can put grub on the other hd if you wanted to.
[09:28] <Brainiac> Thanks a lot. I will see that carefully! I am re-installing.
[09:28] <dr_willis> Brainiac:  or just use the grub menu to select an older kernel
[09:28] <ikonia> dr_willis: it will still be installed
[09:28] <ikonia> dr_willis: and still have updated headers etc
[09:28] <studio-user661> anyone up who has some fair experience getting dualbooting working right? Trying to get Ubuntu studio 12.10 and slackware-14 to play nicely, and using a shared /home with different uid/logins on the different distros
[09:28] <dr_willis> then he can try to remove it..
[09:29] <Gnomex> hey can u give me direct link to Download it..?? my english not well.. sorry
[09:29] <Guest24437> i know but sinnce i just want to test it is more cobvenient not to touch windoof bootloader#
[09:29] <Gnomex> :(
[09:29] <dr_willis> but we dont know what he did.
[09:29] <ikonia> studio-user661: you are going to have a hard time
[09:29] <studio-user661> why's that? ikonia?
[09:29] <ikonia> studio-user661: 1.) using different uid's is going to cause problems 2.) dual booting with ubuntu's grub2 build and a seperate linux distro will cause pain
[09:29] <Guest24437> dr_willis i can tell u exactly what i did shall i?
[09:29] <dr_willis> Guest24437:  i always boot from my 2nd hard drive.. if you cant figure out the bios settings.. well.. we cant really walk ya through it.
[09:29] <dr_willis> theres so many varity in bios's
[09:30] <Brainiac> How can I do it? Recuperation mode?
[09:30] <Guest24437> i know but i really ont find the setting xD
[09:30] <ikonia> Brainiac: where did you get the 3.7 kernel
[09:30] <dr_willis> Guest24437:  power down.. unplug the first HD. ;) power up.. see if it boots the 2nd hd.
[09:30] <ikonia> mainline vanilla ?
[09:30] <Guest24437> that one thing i want to avoid since my machine is nicely hidden ;-)
[09:31] <Guest24437> in bootmenu i only get "hard drive" but no further selction
[09:31] <Brainiac> In a site!
[09:31] <ikonia> Brainiac: tell you what, you want ot be cryptic with me, help yourself
[09:32] <ikonia> Brainiac: I'm asking reasonable questions such as "where did you get this software as it's not in the official ubuntu repos" - you want to give clever responses like "from a site!" - good luck with your problems
[09:34] <Guest24437> seems no1 can help me?
[09:34] <Brainiac> I'm sorry ikonia. Was not from a official repositoy. How i say, i saw in a blog of ubuntu things, a many people did the same. I really do not remember the blog!!
[09:35] <Brainiac> Can I just select the old kernel?
[09:36] <lukasz> Hi! Im newbie. I work with dual monitors. I want to disable vertical toolbar on second monitor. Its possible?
[09:37] <serp_> vertical?
[09:37] <Brainiac> ikonia, can I? just select?
[09:37] <leebtron> ikonia: studio_user here, I use different logins and uids to keep the config files seperate in the /home/username folders, and then remap/hardlink/symlink the /movies, /music/ documents, etc subfolders to communal folders on a seperate partition
[09:37] <lukasz> hmmm I dont know corect name for it
[09:37] <ikonia> Brainiac: sorry - I'm not progressing this any more, you're package will probably have downloaded now headers etc, and you want to provide no iformation, so I don't want to help
[09:38] <ikonia> leebtron: yes, and that will still cause you problems as /home must be owned by the same uid/gid
[09:38] <ikonia> leebtron: unless I'm not understanding what you are doing when you say a shared home
[09:38] <leebtron> kk
[09:39] <lukasz> serp_: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Hht7VZ29XgM/TTTSuhvpJoI/AAAAAAAAY1A/sO0_DAaEvZk/s1600/unity1.png
[09:39] <lukasz> on the left side you can see toolbar .... Vertical stripe with icons
[09:40] <Brainiac> ikonia, what information shoud I provide?
[09:40] <nibbler> anyone good with digikam? i'm importing my pics which i managed with f-spot before. the tags, which seems to be saved in the xmp/Subject field, are comma sperated. now when importing it sometimes gives me several distinct tags, and for some pictures only one long tag, including several commas... how to control this?
[09:40] <lukasz> I want to disable it on one of my monitors
[09:40] <ikonia> Brainiac: ask the channel, I'm out
[09:40] <dr_willis> lukasz:  theres settings somewher to show/hide it on one or both montitors
[09:41] <dr_willis> lukasz:  i just cant rember where.
[09:41] <leebtron> basically, I have a 128GB SSD HDD in this laptop with 8 GB /dev/sda1 for swap, 16GB /dev/sda2 in ext4 for slackware '/', 24GB /dev/sda3 in ext4 for UStudio '/', and the remaining 80GB or so in /dev/sda4 as an ext3 for /home on both slackware and UStudio.
[09:41] <dr_willis> lukasz:  a quick serach at askubuntu.com should show you
[09:41] <ikonia> leebtron: then they need to share the same uid/gid
[09:41] <Brainiac> Thank you ikonia! you are really weird!
[09:41] <Brainiac> I am! I will try on my own!
[09:41] <dr_willis> I recall it being a easially iverlooked pulldown menu item on the monitors or displays or some semi-related setting dialog
[09:43] <leebtron> I use different logins for the different os's, so they technically have separate folders inside /dev/sda4, but I also have created /dev/sda4/Documents, /dev/sda4/Downloads, /dev/sda4/movies, etc; and inside both os's I have symlinked or hardlinked /home/slackwareuser/movies to /home/movies.... so the folders appear transparently, yet are both accessible from either side
[09:43] <ikonia> leebtron: /home is the key thing, not the directories under it
[09:44] <leebtron> I don't have any issue with my data management, outside of getting thunar to mate well with my networked RAID box...
[09:45] <leebtron> I don't have a problem dealing with home ikonia
[09:45] <czar> i may have just been hacked
[09:45] <ikonia> leebtron: so what's the issue you actually need help with ?
[09:45] <czar> i was just hacked via desktop sharing, some commands were run on my terminal
[09:45] <leebtron> tthe problem i'm having is getting lilo to properly chainload into Ubuntu's GRUB2, and/or keeping slackware 14.0 from getting screwy when it's booted from GRUB2
[09:46] <czar> will someone check out the commands for me to see what i need to clear it up
[09:46] <ikonia> czar: re-install ubuntu then
[09:46] <ikonia> czar: do not paste the commadns
[09:46] <ikonia> czar: if you feel you have been compromised, re-install ubuntu
[09:46] <ikonia> we do not want to see them
[09:46] <czar> :(
[09:46] <apos> its no longer trusted
[09:46] <apos> needs to be removed from the network
[09:46] <czar> are other computers on my network also compromised?
[09:47] <bekks> czar: Maybe.
[09:47] <ikonia> czar: remove it now to remove risk
[09:47] <czar> ok done
[09:47] <dr_willis> hacked via desktop shareing.. err.. so they guessed your password?
[09:47] <leebtron> my /home directories operate perfectly well, and maintain data transparently throughout both operating systems. I'mnot trying to get something silly like using the same login across the OS's while retaining the same inode for /home.... that's just asking fro trouble
[09:47] <czar> password wasnt enabled, the computer wasnt supposed to be connected
[09:47] <czar> to the net
[09:48] <dr_willis> so they got into a user account? or were you running as root?
[09:48] <czar> user acct
[09:48] <dr_willis> well you can do what you want. but the most sure/safest thing would be a reinstall..
[09:49] <leebtron> czar: what services are you running as user?
[09:49] <lukasz> I have one more question,. How is simplest way to actualize firefox?
[09:49] <ikonia> actualize ?
[09:49] <lukasz> (I'm newbie)
[09:49] <czar> firefox is actualized
[09:49] <czar> next question
[09:49] <ikonia> what does actualize mean
[09:49] <lukasz> I have firefox 15
[09:49] <dr_willis> if root was not comprimized and you dident have any special user rights going on.. it should have only hurt the users home files
[09:49] <lukasz> 15.0
[09:49] <lukasz> Current firefox is 18.0
[09:49] <czar> is root a specific user
[09:49] <dr_willis> !firefox
[09:50] <czar> i use one acct for everything
[09:50] <ikonia> czar: re-install
[09:50] <ikonia> what does actualize firefox mean ?
[09:50] <dr_willis> czar:  if your ubuntu level is such that you have to ask what root is.. id say backup/reinstall and next time set passwords..
[09:50] <dr_willis> !root
[09:50] <czar> reinstall as in format root partition?
[09:51] <dr_willis> czar:  yes.  - backup any imporntant user files first
[09:51] <czar> i have files on a seperate partition
[09:51] <czar> "/home"
[09:51]  * dr_willis wonders why a desktop system that was supposed to be not on the network..  had desktop shareing enabled...
[09:52] <dr_willis> its possible your users own personal files have been damaged also.. i would check them out
[09:52] <czar> some pedantic fags in here tonight
[09:52] <dr_willis> if they havent been jsut deleted
[09:53] <leebtron> czar: what services do you have enabled as user? if you're running wifi, and have rdesktop or something similar running at the same time, then it's possible that someone could have networked directly to you on an open socket
[09:54] <leebtron> ikonia, are you familiar with lilo/GRUB2?
[09:54] <ikonia> leebtron: certainly seperatly, I don't use them to do what you want to do, I don't like the concept of what you are trying to do (personally)
[09:55] <leebtron> which is what, do you think?
[09:55] <ikonia> chainload grub2 from lilo
[09:55] <leebtron> I am not certain that you completely understand what I'm sttempting to do
[09:56] <leebtron> the only reason for that is that I vastly prefer lilo to GRUB2, but I haven't figured out how to install UbuntuStudio without also installing GRUB2
[09:56] <ikonia> there is a box in the installer that says "don't install bootloader" or words to that effect
[09:56] <lukasz> I cant find a package with latest firefox ...
[09:56] <ikonia> I assume that's been carried across to the ubuntu studio installer also
[09:57] <dr_willis> lukasz:  there used to  be PPA's with daily builds and  other newer versions.
[09:57] <leebtron> I haven't seen it there, it's a selection menu that allows for install to /dev/sda, or to one of the partitions under it
[09:57] <ikonia> looks like it's removed as an option then
[09:59] <leebtron> in which case I've installed it to /dev/sda3, my UStudio partition. If I attempt to load UStudio directly from lilo, it will boot up, butI am unable to use mouse or keyboard.
[10:00] <DigitRig> is it possible to add a user using usermod -G to group root?
[10:00] <ikonia> DigitRig: sure
[10:00] <DigitRig> and will it give root privileges to root chown (group) directories?
[10:00] <ikonia> DigitRig: no
[10:00] <leebtron> if I use GRUB2 as the primary bootloader, installed to /dev/sda; then slackware acts funky, and things just don't quite work right
[10:00] <ikonia> DigitRig: its a group, not owner
[10:00] <DigitRig> ikonia, but if the directory is chownd to root:root then isn't root also the group?
[10:01] <leebtron> DigitRig: I'm not sure what you're trying to make work, but it sounds like you'd be better off using sudo
[10:01] <DigitRig> leebtron it's over sftp so I can't actually issue any commands
[10:02] <leebtron> aha
[10:02] <leebtron> your ftp server?
[10:02] <DigitRig> well, an ec2 instance I am sftp editing files on....
[10:03] <leebtron> or are you trying to get privledge escalation on another ftp server?
[10:03] <DigitRig> uhh I dont think so?
[10:04] <leebtron> can you modify the permissions of the sftp login on the server?
[10:04] <DigitRig> hmm, I'll try that, thaks leebtron
[10:07] <vanosten> .
[10:07] <leebtron> DigitRig: if you canmodify permissions on the server's files, you shouldbe able to use SUID or SGID on the necesasary files' permissions which would be able to give you root's permissions with those files without actually giving you root permissions
[10:08] <Pranas> hi guys. how to trace error if I get black screen after login?
[10:09] <dr_willis> Pranas:  tried the  nomodeset option yet?
[10:09] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[10:10] <Pranas> dr_willis: nomodeset means very basic graphics mode, am I right?
[10:10] <dr_willis> nope
[10:10] <dr_willis> it tells the kernel to do somthing differntly i recall.
[10:10] <Pranas> I used nomodeset to install my 12.04 , because otherwise it would hang
[10:10] <lukasz> I want to install latest firefox. Im there:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion#Firefox-stable_channel
[10:11] <dr_willis> ive ran for months with nomodsset witn ho issues
[10:11] <lukasz> Im clickink link in first point
[10:11] <dr_willis> no issues
[10:11] <lukasz> whot next ?
[10:11] <lukasz> *what next ?
[10:11] <Pranas> do you happen to have nvidia graphics card?
[10:11] <dr_willis> i only have nvidia. ;) well netbooks are on intel
[10:13] <Pranas> so I probably should look into this nomodeset. and other than that just default updated packages.
[10:13] <dr_willis> lukasz:  what version of FF are you looking for?
[10:14] <Pranas> btw, I tried nvidia-current package. after that ubuntu gives me black screen like 30% of the time. at other times it's fine
[10:14] <dr_willis> Pranas:  thats weird that its not all the time.
[10:15] <dr_willis> FF 18.0.1 is the latest? thats what i have on my ubuntu box
[10:15] <lukasz> dr_willis: LAtest - 18.0
[10:15] <dr_willis> its came from the normal repos as far as i know
[10:15] <lukasz> My ubuntu is 12.04 ... Its problem ?
[10:15] <smokingfreak> some one familiar with metasploit on ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[10:15] <dr_willis> !info firefox
[10:16] <dr_willis> im on 12.10
[10:16] <smokingfreak> no one?
[10:16] <dr_willis> !info firefox precice
[10:16] <dr_willis> !info firefox precise
[10:16] <dr_willis> looks like its 18.0.1 on 12.04 also.
[10:17] <lukasz> Any ideas how to install firefox 18.0 on 12.04 ?
[10:17] <dr_willis> Its in the normal repos from what the bot just said.
[10:18] <dr_willis> its in  'main'
[10:18] <dr_willis> bbl  work time for me
[10:19] <lukasz> I still cant ubnderstand :/\
[10:20] <BillyZane> hi lukasz
[10:20] <smokingfreak> yeah lukasz "$ wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/firefox_18.0.1%2Bbuild1.orig.tar.bz2"
[10:20] <BillyZane> are you very new to ubuntu?
[10:20] <smokingfreak> and after that $ tar -xjvf firefox*
[10:20] <smokingfreak> $ cd firefox*
[10:20] <smokingfreak> $ ./configur
[10:20] <smokingfreak> sudo make
[10:20] <kostkon> lukasz, what's the output of:  apt-cache policy firefox
[10:20] <smokingfreak> sudo make install
[10:21] <BillyZane> smokingfreak: can you explain to me what all those steps do
[10:21] <BillyZane> why the $ ?
[10:22] <liquid-silence> hi all
[10:22] <liquid-silence> moving to ubuntu on my imac
[10:22] <liquid-silence> is the amd64-mac disk ok?
[10:23] <lukasz> Im trying to upgarde ubuntu to 12.10
[10:25] <captine> liquid-silence, haven't installed it on iMac.  but my friends mac mini couldn't do 64bit due to it's EFI chip.
[10:26] <liquid-silence> ok I will check
[10:26] <arun> hi guys
[10:26] <captine> liquid-silence, 64 Bit should be fine if you have a iMac that can run native 64bit kernel.  not sure if any of them suffer from the restrictions as the mac mini's did
[10:26] <lukasz> smokingfreak: Im in firefox extracted package folder
[10:26] <liquid-silence> captine: because archlinux refuses to work
[10:26] <arun> i cannot remove pdf copyright security from my pdf file
[10:26] <lukasz> and im typing in terminal "./configure"
[10:26] <lukasz> dont work ....
[10:28] <captine> liquid-silence, how old is ur iMac?  As i said, i have never installed on an iMac (bought a mac mini 2012 server to run proxmox on, but havent gotten around to it yet
[10:29] <liquid-silence> captine: 2009
[10:29] <liquid-silence> so I think I will be fine
[10:30] <liquid-silence> captine: mind a pm?
[10:31] <captine> liquid-silence, i have seen people ask for all questions and troubleshooting to be done in the general chat.  perhaps someone who has experience would be able to help when they get back from tea:)
[10:31] <captine> liquid-silence, i am looking some things up now quick.
[10:33] <liquid-silence> captine: I am currently in a terminal only downloading ubuntu
[10:33] <crawln> I have a question about doing a mass conversion of mkv files to mp4 using avconv
[10:33] <captine> liquid-silence, ok.  do you still have osx installed then?
[10:33] <crawln> anyone have time to help me
[10:34] <defer_> Is there any good udev guide for making rules?
[10:34] <defer_> I want to set udev rule that runs "lomoco -8" when i plug in my usb mouse
[10:35] <liquid-silence> captine: no
[10:35] <bruno__> hi
[10:35] <captine> liquid-silence, ok. what terminal are you in then?  are you planning to install from usb or CD?  which version of ubuntu you downloading?  12.04.01 or 12.10?
[10:35] <Dan1987> Hi all, Ive just done an upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 through the update-manager. All went well during upgrade but on first log-in i have no Unity Desktop. All i have is the background. Any advice on what i can do? Cheers
[10:36] <ted___> Hello, I can't access my user and am unable to mount my private directory. Could anyone help?
[10:36] <liquid-silence> DVD
[10:36] <liquid-silence> but I am on a botched archlinux
[10:36] <liquid-silence> 12.10
[10:37] <ted___> My boot got messed up so I'm trying to transfer the data from it using a live CD.
[10:37] <liquid-silence> killing time now
[10:37] <liquid-silence> about 30 minutes for the download to be completed
[10:38] <ted___> Does anyone know a way to access your data when your machine won't boot?
[10:39] <apos> linux live disk
[10:39] <ted___> Using one.
[10:39] <liquid-silence> mount the device
[10:39] <ted___> Need a little more detail, please.
[10:39] <apos> then whats ur problem?
[10:39] <captine> liquid-silence, ok.  I installed ubuntu on friends old mac mini few weekends ago and it went really smoothly.  Am sure once the DVD is burnt the install will go smoothly
[10:39] <ted___> The drive is encrypted.
[10:39] <liquid-silence> captine: I think so too
[10:39] <liquid-silence> except for ATI
[10:39] <k1l> ted___: start a ubuntu live system (like on a cd/dvd or on a usb-stick). then you could easily click-to-mount the partitions in the nuatilus file explorer
[10:39] <liquid-silence> ATI is the dogs breakfast
[10:40] <apos> the drive is encrypted. you best bet is to attack the key.
[10:40] <k1l> ted___: if its encrypted im out of the business
[10:40] <liquid-silence> captine: used the mac iso?
[10:40] <apos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McpLJcPkmSw
[10:40] <apos> ooops
[10:40] <apos> https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/
[10:40] <ted___> attack the key?
[10:41] <ted___> Isn't there someway I can get it to think I'm the right user with the right key and mount it?
[10:41] <apos> yes. do not try to desypher the data. instead try to unlock it.
[10:41] <apos> yes
[10:41] <apos> if you have the key
[10:41] <apos> https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/
[10:41] <FloodBot1> apos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:41] <Nickinator> Were you using Bitlocker?
[10:41] <ted___> No no...ubuntu made it that way.
[10:42] <apos> you are about to embark an an epic hack.
[10:42] <arun> hey guys which is the best pdf file editor
[10:42] <bilel> hi, I've installled ubuntu 11.10 and grub2 yesterday, now I've juste fogured out windows can't even be booted anymore, the windows loader appears on the list, but when I click on it, it says "Secure Boot forbids loading module from /boo/grub/x86_64-efi/ntfs.mod", I can only boot ubuntu...
[10:42] <k1l> ted___: maybe you need to install the encryption tools ubuntu brings in the repos to encrypt the partition. but im not sure because i dont use encryption
[10:43] <k1l> apos: no need for hacking with external tools in that case
[10:43] <crawln> can anyone help me with avconv
[10:43] <ted___> No...it's got everything it needs right there. my credentials just aren't lining up.
[10:43] <apos> you dont know what your talking about
[10:43] <crawln> trying to convert an entire folder of mkv to mp4
[10:43] <Nickinator> By the sounds of it you're either using TrueCrypt or Bitlocker, and most "hacking" tools won't crack that (in less than a decade anyway)
[10:43] <apos> and neither do you
[10:44] <apos> so it seems i should keep my mouth shut as this conversation isnt appropriate for freenode.
[10:44] <arun> hey guys which is the best pdf editor
[10:44] <arun> ????/
[10:44] <ted___> apos, I tried to follow this fix: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[10:44] <ted___> That just leads me to believe it can be more simple than attacking it.
[10:45] <ted___> You're right though...I'm not very knowledgable.
[10:45] <arun> hey guys any one
[10:45] <arun> help me yaar
[10:45] <arun> which is the best pdf editor?????/
[10:45] <ted___> I don't know arun, I don't use pdfs. Sorry.
[10:46] <bekks> !best | arun
[10:47] <arun> hey by which can i edit the copyright pdf
[10:49] <bekks> arun: Hopefully by none. A copyright should be respected.
[10:49] <kostkon> arun, there are a couple in the software centre. have you checked?
[10:49] <kostkon> arun, pdf editors*
[10:49] <BlackWeb> I've been looking into Encryption, Which I've been using GPG, But heard about Openssl AES256, Is OpenSSL AES256 More secure then GPG or are they Similar?
[10:50] <BlackWeb> Is OpenSSL mainly used to encrypt with Ciphers
[10:50] <apos> itsd illegal to enter or leave the USA
[10:50] <ted___> Do I honestly have to "hack" my own computer? I can't believe that it's set up so that when your boot breaks you're screwed.
[10:51] <apos> you ENCRYPTED it
[10:51] <k1l> ted___: you need to specifiy where exactly you have problems.
[10:51] <ted___> What do you want to know k1l?
[10:51] <cgtdk> apos: No one cares about export restrictions on cryptography
[10:51]  * rudrab says hello to all
[10:51] <arun> hey isn't there any way to remove copyright restriction from a pdf?
[10:52] <k1l> ted___: you said you followed the tutorial you linked. so where is the problem in there?
[10:52] <cgtdk> arun: You've already asked several times.
[10:52] <arun> sorrry
[10:52] <Soopah> ask google
[10:52] <cgtdk> Soopah: or DuckDuckGo
[10:52] <arun> but no one ansered the question
[10:52] <ted___> I got to the 21st line...and instead of working like the example...I got the same error.
[10:52] <kostkon> arun, you aren't going to get help for that here. nevertheless, if yotu want to edit your pdf file, check the pdf editors that are available in the usc
[10:52] <rudrab> friends, am i in right place to ask about ubuntu devices (i.e. phone) specially? or there is any dedicated channel?
[10:52] <arun> I googled a lot
[10:52] <BlackWeb> Apos is OpenSSL AES256 Encryption More Secure Than GPG
[10:53] <BlackWeb> just curious
[10:53] <arun> pok
[10:53] <arun> ok
[10:53] <k1l> !phone | rudrab
[10:53] <arun> thanks
[10:53] <BlackWeb> I use GPG with keys
[10:53] <ted___> Of course, mine didn't look exactly like the example, because I used this tutorial: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/mounting-hard-drive-from-live-cd-558177/ to mount it
[10:53] <apos> most encryption is limited to 56bit or 128bit eliptic curve because America wont let you inport or export higher.
[10:54] <ted___> so everything I was doing had a /mnt/mountpoint prefix.
[10:54] <rudrab> ubottu: thanks.
[10:54] <apos> beyound that its all about the algorythem in use
[10:55] <apos> and i need to leave now. i am in violation of some non disclosure pacts in several rooms. not to mention im sure ubuntu code of conduct has something to say about giving support whist drunk
[10:55] <BlackWeb> Alright, So OpenSSL is mainly used to encrypt with password cipers, & gpg with keys right?
[10:56] <cgtdk> BlackWeb: What do you need encryption for?
[10:56] <a5h15h> using xubuntu 12.04...the pointer disappears after inactivity...any fix?
[10:57] <BlackWeb> Mainly Bank Stmt that I download instead of receiving papermail, want to secure them on drive so Tar/Zip them into file and just checking on encrypting the archive
[10:57] <k1l> ted___: did you mount the /home partition as /home?
[10:57] <BlackWeb> Mainly Financial records
[10:58] <ted___> It ended up being /mnt/mountpoint/home
[10:58] <BlackWeb> cgtdk, I've been using GPG using keys,
[10:58] <ted___> I'm not sure how to make it work otherwise.
[10:58] <BlackWeb> then heard about openssl does openssl just encrpyt mainly with cipers?
[10:58] <a5h15h> have searched on the web...leading to a package called unclutter...but i dont have it installed...
[10:58] <cgtdk> BlackWeb: PGP/GPG and AES are both very secure and they should both be fine for your purpose.
[10:58] <cgtdk> I usually use GPG though
[10:58] <apos> ^^
[10:59] <apos> on both accounts
[10:59] <apos> just dont use a gpg key you reg'd publicly  XD
[10:59] <BlackWeb> Alright, ya I'm using GPG now using keys, Which Openssl it that mainly just used for creating encryption with ciphers without the keys
[10:59] <k1l> ted___: for the tutorial you follow you need to mount it to /home not /.../.../home
[11:00] <ted___> Oh...well I don't know how to do that.
[11:00] <k1l> ted___: the mount command you used, what did it look like?
[11:01] <BlackWeb> Can Gpg Decrypt a file Encrypted with OPenSSL
[11:01] <ted___> Just "mount" but see...when I try to mount it without making a directory first...it just says "Yep, it's already mounted!"
[11:01] <cgtdk> BlackWeb: No
[11:01] <ted___> That was dense of me...hold on I'll get better info.
[11:02] <BlackWeb> Alright kinda figured that but ya its cool, Downloaded some files from net from anonymous Encrypted with AES256
[11:02] <ted___> mkdir /mnt/mountpoint     then  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/mountpoint
[11:02] <k1l> ted___: well, if you used the mount command mentioned in that forumthread, it should have looked like "mount /dev/sdXY /mountoint" just the mountpoint needs to say "/home"
[11:03] <Kaleo> Good morning! I would like to know how can I fix a problem with my 12.10 QQ kernel. I just want uninstall a recent and install the 3.5!
[11:04] <ted___> You lost me...I'm sorry I'm trying to follow.
[11:04] <ted___> What part did I do wrong?
[11:04] <k1l> ted___: yes, there is the problem. fot the recovery of the encrypted home you need to mount that partition to /home and not /mnt/mountpoint
[11:05] <ted___> I don't know how.
[11:05] <dr_willis> !mount
[11:05] <k1l> ted___: just change your command to "mount /dev/sda1 /home"  _if_ that encrypted home partition is the sda1 partition
[11:05] <ted___> oh...oh! let me try that!
[11:05] <k1l> but before you need to unmount that old mount command
[11:06] <ted___> Oh, okay...would that be "unmount"
[11:06] <computer1> does anyone here work on the LibreOffice build..?
[11:06] <dr_willis> umount   no n
[11:06] <ted___> Thank you dr_willis :)
[11:06] <ted___> be right back!
[11:06] <k1l> yes, without the first n
[11:06] <Kaleo>  Good morning! I would like to know, how can I fix a problem with my 12.10 QQ kernel. I just want uninstall a recent and install the 3.5... version!
[11:08] <^ciclope^> salve
[11:08] <Kaleo> Do not have people here? (sarcasm)
[11:08] <dr_willis> hmm. whats a qq kernel
[11:08] <dr_willis> never heard the term
[11:09] <moltevolte> hi
[11:09] <dr_willis> and the question is a little confuseing
[11:09] <Kaleo> dr_willis - i'm back!
[11:09] <dr_willis> moo!
[11:10] <Kaleo> dr_willis: Can you help-me?
[11:10] <dr_willis> i have no idea what you are asking.
[11:11] <dr_willis> and the question is a little confuseing
[11:12] <Kaleo> I want uninstall a recent kernel and back to courrent version: 3.5 of the Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal Quetzal.
[11:12] <ted___> k1l I unmounted, then mounted like you said...I hit enter and it didn't say anything...just went to another command line.
[11:12] <ted___> Didn't change the directory or anything.
[11:12] <k1l> ted___: there is no report when it went through
[11:12] <bilel> after ubuntu installation, grub2 was missing, so I launched boot repair (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1572862/), now I can't boot windows anymore, when I select it on the grub list, I get "Secure boot forbids loading module from /bootgrub/x86_64-efi/ntfs.mod", do you know why? thanks for your help I don't know what to do now
[11:13] <k1l> no try the other tutoorial again
[11:13] <ted___> I can't?
[11:13] <k1l> why?
[11:13] <ted___> It didn't put me in the directory.
[11:13] <dr_willis> if you used the package manager to install the kernels. the  use it to uninstall what you dont want
[11:13] <k1l> you dont need to be in that directory
[11:13] <ted___> but that's what the tutorial says?
[11:14] <Kaleo> Was installed from terminal - wget!!
[11:14] <k1l> ted___: this? http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2010/04/16/how-to-recover-crypted-home-directory-in-ubuntu/
[11:14] <Kaleo> I do not have the address anymore
[11:14] <ted___> When I mount using /mnt/mountpoint....my command line changes to include the directory.
[11:14] <ted___> when I mount like you said...I'm still stuck in root@ubuntu.
[11:14] <dr_willis> wget downloads files.. it dosent install stuff.
[11:14] <k1l> ted___: no forget those forumthread with the /mnt/mountpoint stuff
[11:15] <ted___> I understand it isn't right...but as an example.
[11:15] <bekks> ted___: root@ubuntu is a prompt, it does not tell you anything about the path you are in.
[11:15] <Kaleo> ch mod.... from a comand!
[11:15] <ted___> bekks I might not be using the correct terminology but do you know what I mean?
[11:15] <dr_willis> Kaleo:  chmod dosent install stuff either. it chamges file modes
[11:16] <k1l> ted___: so start the commands that are mentioned in that last code-box on the tutorial
[11:16] <bekks> ted___: No, to be honest.
[11:16] <ted___> the tutorial shows you being in your home directory...the command line/prompt..."displaying" that you're "in" the directory.
[11:16] <k1l> ted___: there is no need to got to an directory at the start of that tutorial, as far as i can see
[11:17] <Kaleo> Guys, how can I uninstall a kernel easily from terminal?
[11:17] <ted___> Alright k1l I'm going to give it a whirl.
[11:18] <ted___> wait yes it does.
[11:18] <ted___> Right at the beginning of the tutorial you see a # after /home/username
[11:18] <iceroot> Kaleo: sudo apt-get remove linux-image- TAB TAB to see als install kernels
[11:18] <iceroot> Kaleo: dont remove the generic package from linux-image
[11:18] <iceroot> Kaleo: linux-image-generic
[11:18] <ted___> Or is that part of the command, I'm understanding it wrong?
[11:19] <k1l> ted___: that is because the user stated at the beginning of the tutotrial, that he could not use his home because its encrypted and to show that he already changed into that directory.
[11:19] <k1l> ted___: you are looking in the wrong direction in this part. just keep moving
[11:19] <ted___> It doesn't work.
[11:20] <ted___> It says the directory doesn't exist.
[11:20] <Kaleo> iceroot: I want install just one yhat i have installed!
[11:21] <Kaleo> "That"... 3.7 version.
[11:21] <Kaleo> iceroot: Thank you!
[11:21] <k1l> ted___: hmm. im not sure if its because you mounted the wrong partition or the wrong mountpoint or smth other :/
[11:22] <k1l> ted___: where did it not work exactly?
[11:22] <ted___> Right at the beginning? I expected when you told me to mount that way...I'd get something like root@ubuntu: /home/user#
[11:23] <k1l> ted___: no
[11:23] <ted___> Just like the example...instead I mounted and it doesn't say anything...just root@ubuntu:#~
[11:23] <ted___> Which doesn't look like the example at all.
[11:23] <k1l> mounting smth doesnt mean you get there instantly
[11:23] <ted___> So okay...how do I get there?
[11:23] <k1l> ted___: you dont need to get there
[11:23] <ted___> In the tutorial the guy is there.
[11:23] <ted___> That's where he starts.
[11:24] <k1l> thats what im talking about. you need to do the commands mentioned at the start . no matter where you are
[11:24] <k1l> ted___: the commands he is doing dont need a place
[11:24] <k1l> so dont stop at that meaningless point
[11:24] <ted___> Then why does he show himself using the commands in a place...and when I'm not in a place...theyy don't work?
[11:25] <k1l> ted___: last time not: adding a user to the system doesnt need a place to get started
[11:25] <ted___> how come when I use /mnt/mountpoint...it changes the directory...and I can get halfway through the tutorial.
[11:25] <k1l> *now
[11:26] <k1l> ted___: ok. i quit. you dont listen to what i try to help you and keep doing the wrong commands. so hopefully omeone other got more luck in helping you.
[11:27] <ted___> Thank you for trying to help me. sorry about it.
[11:27] <theManag3R> Hello, any experienced Virtualbox + Ubuntu users here?
[11:28] <bekks> theManag3R: Why?
[11:29] <theManag3R> After one week of tight battle with trying to install Ubuntu in Virtualbox, I changed my .iso and I got it properly installed, but now it wont start...
[11:29] <ted___> I typed /home/user# adduser --no-create-home without being in the directory like you're saying and it just keeps telling me it doesn't exist. So I' sorry...I just don't understand k1l
[11:30] <theManag3R> It boots properly, but it gets stuck on the Ubuntu default wallpaper
[11:31] <liquid-silence> ok burning ubuntu disk
[11:31] <dr_willis> theManag3R: you may want to install lubuntu un vbox. since unity wants a 3d enabled system
[11:31] <dr_willis> it may not start properly in vbox
[11:33] <zeroth__> i'm using backtrack and when I restart it obviously loads a saved session but it's a mess of windows. How do I save a new session when I get it the way I want it?
[11:33] <bekks> !backtrack | zeroth__
[11:34] <zeroth__> Just looking for any info on saving sessions
[11:34] <zeroth__> thanks
[11:34] <mhs> Can anybody tell me which 3g data card(dongle) is suitable for ubuntu 12.10 please.
[11:36] <mhs> Hello anybody?
[11:36] <liquid-silence> why is the damn iso bigger then a DVD?
[11:36] <liquid-silence> err
[11:36] <liquid-silence> CD
[11:37] <dr_willis> because its a dvd
[11:37] <dr_willis> as of 12.10
[11:38] <liquid-silence> urg
[11:38] <liquid-silence> I dont have dvds
[11:38] <liquid-silence> :(
[11:38] <mhs> Hello I am using ubuntu 12.10, which 3g data card would be suitable for that.
[11:38] <mhs> ?
[11:38] <dr_willis> use a usb flash
[11:38] <krux> make it a usb
[11:38] <krux> :)
[11:38] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: from a command line?
[11:38] <dr_willis> mhs:  check reviews online
[11:38] <dr_willis> liquid-silence: thats doable with   dd
[11:39] <mhs> I am not finding...
[11:39] <dr_willis> dd the iso straight to the usb  sdx
[11:39] <dr_willis> !hcl
[11:39] <liquid-silence> sdb1 or sdb?
[11:39] <dr_willis> sdb
[11:39] <dr_willis> its a disk image
[11:40] <liquid-silence> \cool doing it
[11:40] <liquid-silence> hopefully my mac will boot
[11:40] <dr_willis> macs have dd?  ;-)
[11:40] <majnoon> !samba
[11:40] <mhs> Whether does micromax work well with ubuntu 12.10?
[11:40] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: no on archlinux install
[11:40] <liquid-silence> that is fscked
[11:40] <liquid-silence> because of stupid decisions with kernel 3.7
[11:40] <liquid-silence> not working with ATI legacy
[11:41] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: btw you using unity?
[11:41] <dr_willis> i normally use unity
[11:41] <liquid-silence> ah ok
[11:41] <liquid-silence> but?\
[11:42] <liquid-silence> I hope this works
[11:42] <liquid-silence> took me 4 hours to kill arch with ati drivers
[11:43] <liquid-silence> dd takes forever :)
[11:43] <bekks> Use a reasonable bs= parameter then, like 16M or something
[11:43] <newwen> Ubuntu 12.10 doesn't work with ATI legacy propietary drivers unless you downgrate X.org to v1.12
[11:43] <dr_willis> you did use a bs=1mb  option
[11:44] <deed02392> do I need to install PHP separately, or is the php5-fpm package sufficient to run a php fpm server?
[11:44] <somsip> deed02392: if it needs php to run it should pull it in as a dependency
[11:45] <deed02392> i suppose
[11:45] <eric_hungern> how can i delete / uninstall softwares installed by config make install
[11:45] <dr_willis> make uninstall   eric_hungern
[11:46] <bekks> eric_hungern: hopyfully by make uninstall - there is no other way.
[11:46] <eric_hungern> hmm
[11:46] <eric_hungern> where must i do it . in the installed directory?
[11:46] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: what are your thoughts on unit?
[11:46] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: what are your thoughts on unity?
[11:46] <dr_willis> or by hand.. ewww
[11:46] <dr_willis> unity works well for me
[11:46] <liquid-silence> ok
[11:47] <somsip> eric_hungern: from the source/build directory
[11:47] <bekks> eric_hungern: In the same pathe where you ran make config, etc.
[11:47] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: using bs=16M
[11:47] <eric_hungern> bekks, ok thanks last question. will it delete / uninstal everything. i mean is it like apt-get --purge?
[11:49] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: how long have you been using ubuntu
[11:49] <eric_hungern> ok guys thanks
[11:49] <dr_willis> since dapper i recall
[11:49] <liquid-silence> any other distro's?
[11:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:50] <eric_hungern> i wonder why 12.04 so slow?
[11:50]  * liquid-silence is going to install 12.10
[11:50]  * eric_hungern had installed 12.04 LTS
[11:50] <bekks> eric_hungern: hopefully the make script does its job - if not, you have to clean up manually.
[11:50] <Fuzolan> The Message "Your BIOS is broken; DMA routed to ISOCH DMAR unit but no TLB space." should only lead to a performace drop when using iommu or I'm wrong?
[11:50] <eric_hungern> bekks, ok
[11:51]  * eric_hungern must admit. ubuntu is one fo the bewst distros.
[11:51] <cgtdk> eric_hungern: are you drunk?
[11:51] <eric_hungern> cgtdk, a little bit:D
[11:51] <cgtdk> I see
[11:52] <cgtdk> Not that I disagree regarding Ubuntu! It is an extraordinary distribution.
[11:53] <eric_hungern> ??
[11:53] <eric_hungern> your comment is good or bad?
[11:53] <cgtdk> eric_hungern: I like Ubuntu
[11:54] <cgtdk> except for Unity, but I don't have to use that
[11:54] <eric_hungern> me too . debian could did not recoginized my wireless card. but ubuntu
[11:54] <eric_hungern> unuity is good. it is like mac os global menu but i wold like to place it in the bottom
[11:54] <eric_hungern> i hate dash menu
[11:54] <cgtdk> I prefer the freedom of simply using a standalone window manager
[11:55] <eric_hungern> it would be great if there is way to remove the dash
[11:55] <eric_hungern> ah yes cgtdk but you know gnome 3x is terrbile
[11:55] <eric_hungern> kde always crahes and consumes too much ram
[11:55] <eric_hungern> gnome 2x is old so unity is good
[11:55] <eric_hungern> i hope ubuntu will develop it very well
[11:56]  * eric_hungern is looking forward to see the next LTS
[11:58] <fedor> hi to everyone. Is there an alternative to admuncher in windows for Ubuntu12.04?
[11:58] <fedor> and i do not mean addons for browsers
[11:58] <bekks> !info admuncher
[11:59] <fedor> i know that. That's why i've written alternative
[11:59] <eric_hungern> i wonder what is the new features in the next lts
[11:59] <bekks> fedor: I dont even know what admuncher is, so I was hoping to get some info from ubottu :)
[11:59] <eric_hungern> how can i learn
[11:59] <fedor> that's an addblocker
[11:59] <meet> i am using gnome shell. in the bottom notification bar which is shown in the overview, i want to remove the removable drives icon. how to do that?
[12:00] <bekks> eric_hungern: There are two releaseto go until the next LTS is going to be planned.
[12:00] <eric_hungern> 13.04?
[12:00] <bekks> eric_hungern: No. 14.04 will be LTS.
[12:00] <eric_hungern> hm ok
[12:01] <bekks> fedor: Where, if not in a browser, could ads be seen? :)
[12:01] <iceroot> is there a way i can send keyboard and mouse-events over ssh to an existing x-server? so that i have remote keyboard and remote-mouse? (dont need to see the screen, juust want to interacte with the x-server)
[12:01] <ted___> http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html
[12:02] <eric_hungern> ice799, xdotool
[12:02] <ted___> That works for mounting an encrypted home from a live CD/usb...don't know that anyone needs it...but there it is :)
[12:02] <eric_hungern> but you must know window id
[12:02] <iceroot> eric_hungern: ah ok, i am already using it on the server to automate things, would be great if i can interacte with it from remote, i will have a look at the manpage
[12:03] <iceroot> eric_hungern: ah ok, i want it globaly for the x-server and not for one specific window
[12:03] <ted___> thanks for your help earlier, k1l
[12:03] <eric_hungern> ice799, hmm dig deeper:D
[12:04] <iceroot> eric_hungern: i found a nc-hack to send my keyboard-events to the /dev/foobar on the server...
[12:04] <iceroot> eric_hungern: sounds like what i want but nc is always hard :)
[12:05] <iceroot> eric_hungern: http://superuser.com/questions/67659/linux-share-keyboard-over-network
[12:06] <iceroot> then i would just write a script to execute the second command so that i can enable/disbale it and put it on a hot-key so that i can switch easily my keyboard for local or remote-access
[12:07] <eric_hungern> sounds good
[12:08] <eric_hungern> i wil take note that idea. iceroot maybe oneday i need something like that
[12:08] <iceroot> eric_hungern: ssh would be better (encryption) but i will give the nc-hack a try
[12:08] <eric_hungern> yes ice799 you should try that nhack
[12:09] <iceroot> ah i can great a ssh-tunnel for 4444 and route the nc-traffic through it
[12:09] <iceroot> s/great/create
[12:11] <iceroot> i like how you can do everything with GNU/Linux (when you know how to do it).
[12:12] <iceroot> the only limit is your skill, not the system
[12:12] <eric_hungern> :D
[12:13] <Mensch-Maschine> Hi
[12:20] <MishaX2> Is there anyone who could help me out with testing pgp mail encryption?
[12:20] <zykes-> how can I debug "Jan 27 13:19:56 svc02 kernel: [175799.587970] init: ceilometer-api main process (31797) terminated with status 2
[12:20] <MishaX2> I cannot test it right now
[12:20] <zykes-> when there's no more info to go on ?
[12:23] <Ray> Still cold yep~
[12:26] <bel3atar> l3achran sba7 lkheir
[12:28] <Ray> Is there any x irc chat app for IOS?
[12:29] <bel3atar> Ray: IOS or iOS?
[12:29] <iceroot> Ray: ask #jail #ios or something like that
[12:29] <MishaX2> Could anyone help me with testing my gpg set up?
[12:30] <bel3atar> MishaX2: http://simpleshell.com/
[12:31] <MishaX2> I just want to send an encrypted e-mail to someone else and see if it works, I just needs someones e-mail address + public key right?
[12:31] <MishaX2> and the key I can find on the keyserver
[12:31] <bekks> MishaX2: Yes.
[12:31] <iceroot> MishaX2: yes
[12:32] <dkam> Hi guys - trying to get audio over HDMI working.  VLC doesn't output any sound.  Not really sure where to start - Alsamixer seems to default to "HDA ATI SB" rather than "HDA NVidia".  Will that be related?
[12:32] <MishaX2> Does anyone want to give me their e-mail address, so I can just see how it works and if it works
[12:32] <MishaX2> that'd be great...
[12:32] <bekks> MishaX2: You could send an email to yourself, using your public key.
[12:33] <iceroot> dkam: yes it is related, use F6 in alsamixer to change the outrput
[12:33] <iceroot> dkam: or use "pavucontrol" it should also be able to send data to hdmi
[12:35] <MishaX2> Ok, is it like this? I need someones public key... that person needs my public key. I can send a message to him and enter my private passphrase when sending it. He magically can decrypt it?
[12:35] <dkam> iceroot: Everytime I start alsamixer, it's using HDA ATI SB
[12:35] <MishaX2> He decrypts it with his private key and the message that I sent, was encrypted using my private key and his public key
[12:35] <MishaX2> correct?
[12:35] <cgtdk> MishaX2: I believe so
[12:35] <iceroot> MishaX2: you only need the oub-key of someone and you will encrypt the message with his pup key, we will decrpyt it with his private-key
[12:35] <bekks> MishaX2: You need a public key of someone. The other person just needs his/her secret key.
[12:36] <iceroot> MishaX2: your key is not needed for encryption, its only needed for signing
[12:36] <bekks> MishaX2: And the message you SEND is just encrypted using his/her public key.
[12:36] <iceroot> MishaX2: you only use the key from the other person for encryxption
[12:36] <MishaX2> ah ok
[12:37] <MishaX2> Ok nice, that's pretty neat.
[12:37] <liquid-silence> is it safe to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10?
[12:37] <MishaX2> Thanks
[12:37] <liquid-silence> or is it better to install 12.10 straight up
[12:37] <liquid-silence> dr_willis: my imac is not seeing the USB disk
[12:37] <iceroot> liquid-silence: its always best to "never touch a running system"
[12:37] <liquid-silence> iceroot: so clean install?
[12:37] <iceroot> liquid-silence: no
[12:38] <liquid-silence> upgrade?
[12:38] <iceroot> liquid-silence: never touch a running systems does not mean delete it, it means use 12.04
[12:38] <liquid-silence> iceroot: why not use 12.10?
[12:38] <iceroot> liquid-silence: but if you need 12.10 for some reasons, the upgrade is fine, no need for reinstall
[12:38] <bekks> liquid-silence: Because it will be supported much longer.
[12:38] <iceroot> liquid-silence: because "never touch a running system" why should you install 12.10 when 12.04 is running fine=
[12:38] <liquid-silence> iceroot: I just wish ati would work on arch currenly
[12:39] <Aleksander> Hello. I'd like my user to have /home/user/Documents linked to ntfs partition with Windows' My Documents, how should I mount it? Make autofs mount it automatically on each startup, or perhaps with fstab?
[12:39] <iceroot> Aleksander: fstab
[12:40] <iceroot> !fstab | Aleksander
[12:40] <liquid-silence> iceroot: going to try the 12.04 alternative disk atm
[12:40] <Aleksander> iceroot, thanks, and what options should I give to allow user rw to it?
[12:40] <liquid-silence> hopefully that works
[12:41] <iceroot> liquid-silence: works for what?
[12:41] <liquid-silence> on my imac
[12:41] <iceroot> liquid-silence: ah ok
[12:41] <iceroot> !mac | liquid-silence
[12:41] <liquid-silence> iceroot: no browser bro
[12:41] <iceroot> liquid-silence: luckily i never owned an apple-jail so i dont know if it is working
[12:41] <liquid-silence> on archlinux install without X
[12:41] <iceroot> liquid-silence: w3m, lynx
[12:44] <dr_willis> or use your  phones browser. ;)
[12:50] <mondeoscotch> I've got a problem with Grub2... I have two displays connected to my computer, fisrt one I'm using as primary display for general purposes, second one is a TV that I'm using sometimes to watch Videos etc. problem is that Grub always shows boot menu on my telly, how do I change this?
[12:51] <mondeoscotch> I want Grub to show boot menu on another display
[12:51] <mondeoscotch> any idea how to confugure this?
[12:52] <dr_willis> may not be doable mondeoscotch
[12:52] <mondeoscotch> really?!
[12:52] <dr_willis> it may be a bios setting
[12:52] <mondeoscotch> hmmm
[12:52] <mondeoscotch> that's a clue
[12:52] <mondeoscotch> I'll have to look in to it
[12:54] <dr_willis> ive had similer iissues
[12:54] <mondeoscotch> did you managed to solve it?
[12:55] <mondeoscotch> through bios configuration?
[12:56] <dr_willis> no
[12:59] <askari> hi all
[13:00] <jeanfidi> hi
[13:00] <cfhowlett> askari, greetings
[13:01] <askari> thx :D all
[13:02] <jeanfidi> on peut trouver de l'aide ici?
[13:02] <bekks> !fr | jeanfidi
[13:02] <autotick> join #coolness
[13:02] <autotick> #irchelp
[13:03] <jeanfidi> ok, i understand only a written english
[13:04] <askari> english is internasional language
[13:04] <ogra_> better switch off your voice output then
[13:05] <hapster> hello. is it possible to use optirun (bumblebee) and use the nouveau driver instead of the nvidia one?
[13:06] <k1l> hapster: dont think so
[13:06] <hapster> k1l: Manjaro Linux supports it. Dunno how they got it to work that way.
[13:10] <sparx> how to load an icon in java from a mount point
[13:14] <ath1> is it possible with 12.04 to install grub NOT in the MBR but in the bootsector of the root partition?
[13:14] <damrock> hi
[13:14] <apos> sure but it wont boot
[13:14] <cfhowlett> ath1, yes.  grub will install where you put it.  getting it to boot from the location might be a whole different issue
[13:14] <cfhowlett> damrock, greeting
[13:14] <ath1> I currently use 11.04, which doesn't support this
[13:15] <cfhowlett> ath1, that said, I have done just that on a triple boot ...
[13:15] <damrock> i got some packet drops with 82574L driver
[13:15] <k1l> ath1: you need a bootloader in the mbr
[13:15] <Unknown0BC> Hi, how many of you get an error when running ffserver ? It seems there is a bug in Oneiric distribution. I am looking for a resolution.
[13:15] <ath1> I plan to boot it with the windows 7 boot loader
[13:15] <k1l> ath1: that wont work
[13:15] <cfhowlett> ath1, good luck with that ...
[13:15] <damrock> how to upgrade those e1000e driver in ubuntu, i downloaded those kernel things
[13:15] <k1l> the windows bootloader doesnt see or boot the linux
[13:16] <bekks> damrock: Why do you want to upgrade them?
[13:16] <bekks> damrock: And which kernel do you use?
[13:16] <ath1> it works if you give the boot loader a linux boot sector in a file. I tested that.
[13:18] <cfhowlett> ath1,  do it then ... just be ready and able with windows and ubuntu reinstall media if needed
[13:19] <SerenE_SparK> when i try to load an image in java it gives me null point error.
[13:19] <cosmonauta> bom dia
[13:20] <ath1> ok, thx
[13:20] <nuxninja> hi
[13:20] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, greetings
[13:20] <askari> anybody that success install ubuntu in android?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !arm|askari,
[13:21] <k1l> askari: that ubuntu-chroot installs are not covered by this channel. please talk to the app developer
[13:21] <cfhowlett> askari, efforts are underway to install ubuntu on a nexus 7 device
[13:22] <keelG> and GNexus (Ubuntu Phone OS)
[13:23] <nuxninja> hi
[13:24] <bel3atar> hi
[13:24] <cfhowlett> bel3atar, greetings
[13:25] <nuxninja> seems like a dead sunday :|
[13:25] <s4ltiness> tis the day of the dead
[13:25] <askari> ok all..i want to install ubuntu in my android device.hisense phone with snapdragon dualcore procesore
[13:25] <cfhowlett> !phone|askari, wrong channel to ask.
[13:26] <dr_willis> askari:  you may want to check in #android  since  theres no official ubuntu for that..
[13:26] <dr_willis> yetg
[13:26] <dr_willis> yet...
[13:26] <askari> i success install damn small linux with limbo (like qemu)
[13:26] <bel3atar> askari: bravo
[13:26] <nuxninja> brava!!
[13:26] <askari> ok sory :D
[13:27] <k1l> askari: like i told before. that is not officially covered in this channel. try #ubuntu-arm or ask the device-community
[13:28] <nuxninja> know what cpu and gpu you use arm or something else and check ubuntu site and wikipedia to know if your cpu/gpu kernel support is there
[13:29] <askari> ok all :D
[13:31] <luminarc> Hi. could someone help a bit. i am trying to install libdrm-nouveau2 but it fails to install.
[13:31] <nuxninja> try nvidia drivers from nvidia site luminarc
[13:32] <luminarc> but dont have nvidia card :P
[13:32] <nuxninja> so how will it work?? unless you kno sometin better
[13:32] <dr_willis> hmm.. isent nouveau the  open sourced nvidia drivers?
[13:32] <cgtdk> dr_willis: Yes
[13:33] <dr_willis> so if he has no nvidia card...   bah.. im going to get a soda..
[13:33] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:34] <luminarc> well dunno why ubuntu wants me to install it.. but when i try to install lubuntu desktop it says i need it
[13:34] <nuxninja> i got me a hot choc ....cold here
[13:34] <dr_willis> pastebin the exact error messages and what you are doinmg perhaps
[13:35] <nuxninja> luminarc make sure you Dont have an Nvidia card ..
[13:35] <luminarc> well i am 100% sure about that
[13:35] <luminarc> i have intel gma 4500m
[13:35] <nuxninja> dr_willis ++1
[13:35] <cfhowlett> luminarc, not nvidia ...
[13:35] <nuxninja> good so no nvidia .......so then whats the problem
[13:36] <luminarc> when i try to install lubuntu desktop.. i need libdrm-nouveau2.. but when i try to install it it gives me error
[13:36] <cfhowlett> luminarc, wharrort e
[13:36] <cfhowlett> what error
[13:36] <luminarc> sec
[13:37] <nuxninja> how many times you tried luminarc
[13:37] <luminarc> many :P
[13:37] <luminarc> trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdrm_nouveau.so.2.0.0', which is also in package libdrm-nouveau1a 2.4.41~precise~ppa1.1
[13:38] <ogra_> plymouth depends on all libdrm-* packages, it is nomal that they are installed
[13:38] <dr_willis> now we are getting somewhere...
[13:38] <dr_willis> pppa1.1 ->  hmm. you got a ppa enabled that conflicting perhaps.
[13:38] <ogra_> (on x86 arches at least)
[13:39] <luminarc> any idea how to get rid of it?
[13:39] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[13:39] <goldrake> ./install.sh
[13:39] <nuxninja> also pass no_modeset parameter during boot
[13:39] <dr_willis> goldrake:  file not found..
[13:39] <dr_willis>  ;0
[13:40] <nuxninja> if eventually noting works reburn the cd/dvd and try again..
[13:41] <luminarc> k thanks.. i try it
[13:41]  * dr_willis stares blankly at nuxninja  odd advice]
[13:42] <luminarc> hmm ppa-purge also requires libdrm-nouveau2.. :(
[13:42] <nuxninja> msg dr_willis looking blankly
[13:43] <jp_> which is the best 3d video player for Ubuntu ?
[13:44] <dr_willis> luminarc:  you could  figure out wwhat package that file belongs to and just remove it. then disable the ppa or install the otehr packagees
[13:44] <apg> When will Ubuntu 12.04.02 be released? How much of Megabytes it usually takes to upgrade a whole system to a new maintenance release?
[13:44] <k1l> apg: the exact day is mentioned in the release schedule
[13:44] <escott> !ubuntu+1 | apg
[13:45] <apg> I meant ubuntu 12.04.2
[13:45] <cfhowlett> apg, don't think a  date has been set.  patience.
[13:45] <dr_willis> never  even  noticed a 12.04.1  - but im on 12.10 so guess it dosent matter much
[13:46] <k1l> !precise
[13:46] <dr_willis> the .x releases seem to come about every 6 months dont they
[13:46] <yeats> apg: it's not really a big deal - you just 'apt-get upgrade' (or 'dist-upgrade') and you're there - not like a release to release upgrade
[13:46] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, true.  this point release was delayed ... kernel issues as I understand it.
[13:47] <dr_willis> those pesky pesky kernels
[13:47] <k1l> apg: and the "release" is just a summation of all the updates that came to this date. so i case of a new isntall you dont need to download all updates from 12.04
[13:47] <nuxninja> zram was to be inducted but too many problems with 13.04 .....next versions are supposed to be something of a rolling release
[13:47] <sgo11> do anyone use gthumb? for catalog, when I delete a image file which has a catalog, I don't find the catalog file gets updated (~/.local/share/gthumb/catalogs/<name>.catalog). That means the catalog file will have a file uri which does not exist. This doesn't seem correct. thanks.
[13:47] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, not true.  official word is NO rolling release plans for the immediate future
[13:47] <sgo11> PS: I use nautilus to delete that file.
[13:48] <nuxninja> ok
[13:48] <k1l> nuxninja: that topic would suit better into #ubuntu-discuss
[13:48] <k1l> (since its not a real technical support problem for now)
[13:48] <nuxninja> tanks
[13:49] <dr_willis> preemptive technicial support. ;)
[13:49] <lcabreza1> PGP Whole Disk Encryption anybody knows any compatible for ubuntu ?
[13:49] <apg> k1l, cfhowlett, yeats okay, Thanks. Just curious :). Some problems here on 12.04.1, just out of curious of whether there will be some *minor* improvement.
[13:49] <nuxninja> cool
[13:49] <yeats> apg: what problems? did you want help with those?
[13:49] <cfhowlett> apg, point releases, by definition are "minor"
[13:49] <luminarc> This package belongs to a PPA: xorg-edgers
[13:50] <dr_willis> luminarc:   you really needed the xorg-edgers ppa? why
[13:50] <luminarc> i dont, this computer is mess. :P
[13:50] <dr_willis> that ppa does a lot of stuff to the whole X system i recall.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> lcabreza1, as in whole disk encryption?
[13:51] <apg> yeats, I have seen the bug report in launchpad. Like, unity crash, ubuntu software center crash, libreoffice printing non black text, etc
[13:51] <yeats> apg: ah - ok
[13:51] <lcabreza1> cfhowlett: i've tried it on RHEL. but don't know if there is any on Ubuntu version ?
[13:51] <dr_willis> luminarc:  i also think it included updated intel video drivers
[13:51] <dr_willis> bbl.
[13:51] <cfhowlett> lcabreza1, nothing in software center ...
[13:52] <apg> yeats, but some times bug fixes come so long, don't they?
[13:53] <lcabreza1>  cfhowlett:hmm..i just check the forums, no official release yet from symantec ..
[13:54] <root> root
[13:54] <root> root
[13:54] <k1l> !rootirc > Guest13394
[13:54] <lcabreza1> anybody has an idea how to make activkey sim work on ubuntu 12.04. it can be detected using pcsc_scan but it just dies after that ..
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:57] <apg> BlueKaj what can I do for you?
[13:58] <apg> BluesKaj what can I do for you?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> apg, things are fine right , but thanks for offering :)
[13:59] <BluesKaj> right now
[14:00] <blz> Hi, how can I reinstall grub2 after installing ubuntu?
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !grub2|blz
[14:01] <mar1> unifiedlinux: je t'aide, je génère un message :)
[14:17] <Aha> aaa
[14:18] <delkin_> Hi everyone. When I list my /etc/rc2.d I don't see anything related to X (no gdm nor lightdm). Shoulnd't this folder have all the services that are launched when my linux boots on runlevel 2? I can see with 'runlevel' that I am running on 'N 2'. I was expecting to find a service called something like S90lightdm that I could change to K99lightdm. Can someone give me a hint?
[14:21] <sect0r> does anyone know how to change Empathys contact list size?
[14:23] <sw2band> .
[14:25] <dr_willis> delkin_:  ubuntu uses upstart for most services now.
[14:25] <dr_willis> delkin_:  look in /etc/init/
[14:25] <dr_willis> delkin_:  if you want to boot to text mode. use the text option
[14:25] <dr_willis> !text
[14:25] <doomlord> hi, what is "Linux"
[14:25] <doomlord> :)
[14:25] <|nv|s|b|e> linux
[14:26] <dr_willis> !linux
[14:26] <doomlord> but wikipedia says "linux" is an OS :) ("for the kernel, see Linux Kernel" ) :)
[14:26] <dr_willis> edit the wiki then.
[14:27] <|nv|s|b|e> lol
[14:27] <|nv|s|b|e> the publically schooled rise again
[14:27] <dr_willis> linux is also a brand laundry soap i recall...
[14:27] <mhs> I am finding record macro in libreoffice
[14:27] <damrock> isnt it possible to compile a kernel module against another kernel?
[14:27] <k1l> doomlord: ask in ##linux if you dont like the wiki page.
[14:27] <|nv|s|b|e> it cleans any traces of windoze
[14:28] <doomlord> we're jus thaving the debate on #programing
[14:28] <doomlord> is it a kernel or an os
[14:28] <dr_willis> the term applys to both
[14:28] <|nv|s|b|e> its an os kernel
[14:28] <k1l> doomlord: that is not a ubuntu support issue :/
[14:28] <doomlord> my point is, it streamlines communication to just call the OS "linux", and "LinuxKernel" can disambiguate
[14:28] <doomlord> (i just thought some here might have na opinion)
[14:29] <delkin_> dr_willis: where should I set the 'text' option?
[14:29] <dr_willis> delkin_:  did you read the info the bot gave? its in /etc/defult/grub
[14:29] <dr_willis> !text
[14:30] <dr_willis> for perment changes. eidt the file for one time use.. appand it to the grub option via the grub menus
[14:30] <mhs> Hey I am not finding record macro in my libreoffice Version 3.6.2.2. How to get it please.
[14:31] <delkin_> dr_willis: gonna take a look on that. thanks
[14:34] <damrock> why is nobody fixing those kernel module for e1000
[14:34] <damrock> i get mad still those errors in 12.10
[14:34] <k1l> damrock: is there a bug report on launchpad.net?
[14:34] <damrock> yes
[14:34] <damrock> of course it is
[14:35] <damrock> its fixed with the 3.7
[14:35] <damrock> but i can't get my sas controller work with 3.7 because another issue there
[14:35] <damrock> so im damned
[14:35] <damrock> either 3.5 sas works, or 3.7 ethernet works
[14:35] <k1l> damrock: well there are no kernel upgrades for released versions
[14:36] <damrock> what a idiotic crap because the bug is known for 1 year now
[14:36] <apos> then fix it
[14:36] <Colonel> Test
[14:36] <damrock> there is a lot of issues with new ubunut
[14:37] <tiox> There are always issues with Ubuntu.
[14:37] <damrock> lsd install doesnt' work either with new version of python, because nobody tested if it works
[14:37] <damrock> so they put a new python version and hope everything runs fine
[14:38] <damrock> thats a catastrophic way to make ubuntu popular for peoples
[14:38] <k1l> damrock: this is not a channel for ranting. if there is a bug you know file a bug report on launchpad.net and contribute there
[14:38] <damrock> thank god i use osx on my desktop i don't have the nerves with ubuntu on desk
[14:38] <k1l> *sigh*
[14:38] <Sentynel> hi folks, anybody know if there's anything I can do to stop a pile of apt-check processes being spawned whenever I update apt? I'm running ubuntu server on an ec2 micro instance and don't have the memory or cpu capacity to cope with this, so the whole thing locks up for several minutes every time. there's a bunch of threads/reports about it, but nobody seems to have any actual solutions.
[14:38] <damrock> it doesnt help if you fill a bug report you need to wait forever for the fix
[14:39] <Lucenut> Hey guys, how do you install java for a browser in ubuntu?
[14:39] <damrock> i fix it by myself, compiling the new e1000 drivers and basta
[14:39] <damrock> wait for christmas till it fixed, lol
[14:39] <k1l> damrock: it doesnt help to rant here instead of helping the devs. so i dont see what you want to result in here
[14:40] <damrock> because the raring lsd package is still not fixed, and the bug is knwo for a year
[14:40] <PatchAdams> lucenut, I have used this method many times....http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-ubuntu-12-04.html
[14:41] <ogra_> damrock, how does ranting in a support channel help with that ?
[14:41] <damrock> ranting?
[14:41] <ogra_> yes
[14:41] <damrock> fill a bug in launchpad sounds so funny
[14:41] <damrock> because it doesnt help
[14:42] <ogra_> but ranting in the wrong place does ?
[14:43] <damrock> you need a boss who coordinate the entire distro, like redhat
[14:43] <kostkon> !ops | damrock
[14:46] <delkin_> dr_willis: does it make sense to talk about runlevels since 'upstart' was adopted?
[14:48] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[14:48] <riqdiiz> dr_willis: Hi all how can I get my ideos tether mode  detected by slitaz so I can use it for internet?
[14:48] <dr_willis> ask in slitaz support pwrhaps?
[14:49] <riqdiiz> Its dead silence there.
[14:50] <rhett_valda> hey, i am in singapore, and my laptop is spoiled yesterday, any suggestion on what to buy for internet browsing and possibly debugging, photo editing, 3d modeling sometimes. a little bit of this and a little bit of that from time to time.
[14:50] <kostkon> riqdiiz, tried their forums?
[14:50] <apos> Ubuntu Studio
[14:50] <cgtdk> rhett_valda: Thinkpads are great in general
[14:50] <k1l> riqdiiz: that is no reason to ask in the ubuntu support :/  look out if they got a forums or something else like a maillist
[14:52] <riqdiiz> k1l: how do I do that.
[14:53] <dr_willis> slitaz home page  perhaps....
[14:53] <k1l> riqdiiz: see at their page
[14:53] <riqdiiz> k1l:thanks
[14:55] <Lisa_Fox> I'm trying to figure out where to put the command for synergyc so it loads on X startup (So i can use it at the X logon screen.
[14:57] <gaussblurinc> hello! does anybody use online-folders for backups? (dropbox, google drive)
[15:01] <Laughing_man> Ubuntu is gay and bloated .... Archlinux <333
[15:01] <dr_willis> i bet lots of people do gaussblurinc
[15:01] <devon> Help! I removed Unity to replace it with Cinnamon, and now I've ruined a lot of things! How can I reverse it?
[15:02] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge | devon
[15:02] <gaussblurinc> dr_willis: yeah, thanks:) i want do the same:) can you advise which one and which tool is best for this?
[15:02] <dr_willis> gaussblurinc: not really. i use them all
[15:02] <devon> dr_willis: couldn't I just use sudo apt-get remove cinnamon?
[15:03] <dr_willis> devon: no idea.. try it and see?
[15:03] <gaussblurinc> dr_willis: maybe tool?
[15:03] <devon> I removed Unity for a reason, it was slow and not to my liking, so I wanted to go to something else, like GNOME
[15:03] <dr_willis> we dont support cinnamon  so no idea what it unstalls
[15:04] <devon> is GNOME still supported or is it just Unity that's supported now?
[15:04] <dr_willis> unity uses gnome 3
[15:04] <k1l> devon: gnome is supported like unity is based on the gnome3 layer
[15:04] <dr_willis> gnome2 us dead
[15:04] <brianmunk> gaussblurinc, try them, Ubuntu One is good for ubuntu, googledrive is not super under linux (I dont think google made a linux app yet (there are 3rd party tools tho), and well dropbox works on every platforme
[15:05] <devon> so how could I remove the Unity parts of GNOME3 and just have a plain GNOME desktop?
[15:05] <k1l> devon: but cinnamon ist not supported. since you need a ppa to install it. for support for cinnamon see the cinnamon community or devs
[15:05] <dr_willis> !classic
[15:05] <devon> !notunity
[15:06] <dr_willis> or just  use lubuntu
[15:06] <devon> I'll have to try this
[15:06] <k1l> devon: you can go with gnome-shell or the gnome-fallback as supported desktops from gnome. but keep in mind that the fallback is not a real gnome2 and misses some features
[15:07] <dr_willis> and fallback is scheduled for removal in the future
[15:07] <k1l> for sticking to the old gnome2 looks i woul recommend to go with xfce or lxde
[15:08] <gaussblurinc> brianmunk: and if i want to backup images? dropbox isn't good solution because of space limit :\
[15:08] <dr_willis> gaussblurinc: buy more?
[15:09] <gaussblurinc> dr_willis: will do
[15:09] <brianmunk> gaussblurinc, I don't think any of them offer alot of space, unless you are paying for amount of storage
[15:10] <gaussblurinc> brianmunk: actually, i want to save images from my phone with android. So, i think, that solution with google drive will be better, but i am not sure
[15:12] <k1l> gaussblurinc: android offers an own storage with google services. so better ask the android support on that
[15:12] <brianmunk> gaussblurinc, I think drive is 5 gb free storage, and yes from android, google drive or dropbox is to be prefered atm imo
[15:14] <lautriv> does ubuntu really inhect amazon ads ?
[15:15] <devon> good news/bad news
[15:15] <devon> GNOME installed
[15:16] <devon> but now I still boot to a desktop with 2 icons and that's it
[15:16] <devon> opening a terminal and typing gnome-shell --replace opens the GNOME 3 window manager
[15:16] <devon> and the terminal just stays open, and if I close it, GNOME disappears
[15:17] <ry|an> I guess the part where you insatlled gnome is the bad news
[15:17] <ry|an> but I don't see the good news
[15:17] <Ciphoenix> has anyone tried dual booting with windows 8?
[15:17] <devon> how can I fix this? with the skill I have, I know I shouldn't have touched it, but I couldn't deal with the slowdowns of Unity anymore
[15:17] <larsduesing> Ciphoenix: works. definitely.
[15:17] <Ciphoenix> need to know if there are issues
[15:17] <k1l> devon: which ubuntu are you running? and how did you start that desktop?
[15:18] <PatchAdams> I used to dual-boot...never any issues...no windows anymore!
[15:18] <devon> k1l: I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and the desktop started from login, the login stayed as Unity default
[15:18] <dr_willis> devon:  dont use the close button.  do command &    then  the exit command
[15:18] <Ciphoenix> Iarsduesing: thank you :)
[15:18] <k1l> devon: you need to choose you gnome session on the login menue
[15:18] <brianmunk> PatchAdams, 2nd that, no windows anymore
[15:19] <larsduesing> devon: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop ubuntu-gnome-default-settings"
[15:19] <devon> oh, alright
[15:19] <k1l> devon: so logout and choose the gnome session. (make sure you installed the gnome-shell metapackage)
[15:20] <larsduesing> oh, by the way, is here any rrdtool-competent person? :-)
[15:20] <ChaozHenchman> !notunity
[15:21] <apg> why do not consider to *at least* give a space for cinnamon or mate in ubuntu official repo?
[15:21] <ChaozHenchman> !investigate
[15:22] <k1l> apg: its because the depencies of those desktops
[15:22] <josesierra> my gnome-shell process is chewing up about 190mb or RAM... does that sound normal?
[15:22] <josesierra> because it seems unusually high to me.
[15:23] <larsduesing> josesierra: Mine is at 194 MB now.
[15:23] <josesierra> and holding?  because it sometimes heads well into the two hundreds...
[15:24] <K350> is there any tool to convert megabytes to bytes?
[15:24] <ChaozHenchman> investigate "gnome-tweak-tool"
[15:24] <apg> k1l, doesn't it like as simple as like changing the name of conflicting depedencies ? Sorry, I do not know deeper about packaging.
[15:24] <ChaozHenchman> what does it mean to investigate in this case?
[15:24] <larsduesing> josesierra: not too much had a look on it
[15:25] <k1l> apg: no
[15:25] <cgtdk> K350: What exactly do you mean by that? SHowing how many bytes X megabytes is?
[15:25] <larsduesing> K350: multiply by 1024*1024?
[15:25] <k1l> ChaozHenchman: to look at it. there are some settings you might want to change
[15:28] <lcabreza1> getting this error on activkey : Slot 1 (0x2): Activkey Sim [CCID Bulk Interface] 01 00
[15:28] <lcabreza1>   (empty)
[15:32] <jemadux> is there a main menu editor w/o installing gnome on ubuntu lts ?
[15:35] <yeats> jemadux: alacarte *kinda* works
[15:36] <kostkon> jemadux, http://www.iloveubuntu.net/menulibre-1301-released-significant-under-hood-improvements
[15:39] <jemadux> kostkon: thanks ... yeats : alacarte works and install full gnome that i dont want :)
[15:39] <kostkon> jemadux, np
[15:45] <rhett_valda> would you guys buy a fujitsu laptop?
[15:46] <k1l> !ot | rhett_valda
[15:46] <badger_> Hello, can someone help me with a broadcom network driver for 12.10 it is a 4311 device
[15:46] <badger_> please
[15:46] <tax-agent> no rhett_valda i would first check specs
[15:46] <rhett_valda> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:46] <k1l> !broadcom | badger_
[15:47] <devon> Update: I got everything working. Now I'm going to have to invent something to slap me whenever I try to make changes...
[15:47] <badger_> ubottu, I have followed a solved problem solution and I still can't seem to make it work
[15:48] <devon> Thanks for all the help!
[15:50] <yeats> jemadux: by "without installing gnome" I thought you meant gnome3/gnome-shell
[15:52] <badger_> Does anyone know about broadcom drivers in 12.10? it has stopped my wireless functioning and I am really confused now!
[15:54] <tax-agent> those devices belong to a cult of troublemakers.....pratical note badger_  check askubuntu.com or try with your live cd and see if ti works
[15:54] <badger_> tax-agent, It has worked fine previously. updating killed it.
[15:54] <tax-agent> There you go!!!!!!
[15:55] <tax-agent> dont update.
[15:55] <tax-agent> just run
[15:55] <tax-agent> sudo apt-get update
[15:55] <badger_> I have gone through this process on 12.04  but there are so many different guides and I dont fully understand what I'm tinkering with
[15:56] <xeviox> if someone has an usb wireless n adapter working (plug and play) please tell me the name...
[15:56] <badger_> tax-agent, I just ran that command. do i need to restart?
[15:56] <badger_> reboot ?
[15:57] <xeviox> wireless n ( 300 mbps)..
[15:58] <badger_> tax-agent, There was a setting previously in system settings about Additional drivers which now isn't in system settings.
[15:58] <VlanX> any way to show the size of each sub directory on nautilus?
[15:58] <tax-agent> not really ......what i meant was ubuntu 12.10 is a network troublemaker........used 10.10 11.04 11.10 12.04 none of these had problems ...technically something is wrong with 12.10.........DONT UPDATE ....on  a fresh install just run the command i gave... and that's it.
[15:59] <badger_> ahh so should I not update to 12.10?
[15:59] <_helios_> tax-agent, I haven't had any problems with 12.10 64bit
[15:59] <tax-agent> you could.....im running 12.10 on server with bonding but its the worst
[15:59] <keelG> tax-agent: dist-upgrades tend to be prone to errors - however my clean install of 12.10 is damn near flawless
[15:59] <k1l> tax-agent: that is not entirely true what you state here.
[15:59] <_helios_> keelG, agreed
[16:00] <tax-agent> keelG       you read my mind.....do that badger_
[16:00] <_helios_> keelG, I have a clean install of 12.10 64bit runs like a champion.
[16:00] <tax-agent> ^^
[16:00] <badger_> tax-agent, Okay, I will go back to a fresh install on 12.04 is there a tool that I can use to make a live-usb 12.04 to install from ? I have a iso but when i made a live usb on windows with a tool called unetbootin it doesnt install correctly.
[16:01] <k1l> badger_: so you tried the b43 driver or the sta driver mentioned in that wiki page the bot gave you?
[16:01] <keelG> the fact that 12.10 is quite stable aside, I must admit I get another "feel" in 13.04, like we are getting back to some roots - but its only a feeling and I haven't tried it for more than 30mins
[16:01] <_helios_> badger_, if your going to make it from windows use the Universal USB Installer
[16:01] <tax-agent> badger unetbootin is superb..
[16:02] <tax-agent> depends what image you are using
[16:02] <badger_> maybe it is the image that is the problem. i have a live cd of 11.04. but that makes me upgrade to 11.10 so its a very longwinded process to get back to 12.04
[16:03] <Fuzolan> The Message "Your BIOS is broken; DMA routed to ISOCH DMAR unit but no TLB space." should only lead to a performace drop or I'm wrong?
[16:03] <islevegan> i am trying to connect to my nexus 4 internet tethering via bluetooth since there are conflicts between wifi and bluetooth when both are simultaneously enabled. i can "pair" and "connect" with the nexus 4 but internet connectivity is not happening.
[16:03] <tax-agent> just down load it ....dont upgrade badger_
[16:04] <vipin> ?
[16:04] <tax-agent> hi vipin
[16:04] <k1l> tax-agent: there is no general problem with the upgrades. dont tell that
[16:04] <badger_> tax-agent, download a new iso you mean?
[16:04] <vipin> hi
[16:04] <islevegan> in the bluetooth tray item i have "plugins" and "local services". there are some options there that create different kind of failures when trying to connect to the bluetooth internet service from the computer.
[16:04] <tax-agent> k1l he has a 'problem' that's why otherwise not
[16:04] <k1l> badger_: so you dont want to investigate what is wrong with your driver and make a new install?
[16:05] <tax-agent> if you dont have already then yes badger_
[16:05] <k1l> tax-agent: there was no information what is the problem actually. and you stating serveral time as a fact, that upgrade dont work, which is not true
[16:06] <badger_> k1l, I don't mind I have a clean install of 12.10 theres nothing on my linux partition i need to keep
[16:06] <k1l> there is no general problem with the upgrades.
[16:06] <islevegan> i am not sure which settings in plugins and local services is right for connecting to bluetooth internet tethering.
[16:06] <VlanX> please i'd need some info with 7zip using ubuntu...
[16:06] <badger_> k1l, I think the broadcom driver is a problem as there are lots of differing driver solutions when I search for solutions
[16:07] <Adeeb> Does the cmd "rm -rf *" only remove files which are in the home dir?
[16:08] <badger_> everyone that helped thanks, going offline to reinstall from a cd.
[16:08] <vipin> hey guys!! i hav a problem installing docks in my lubuntu 10.04. It says u hav to enable compositing to run this dock. Can any one help me with this??
[16:08] <k1l> badger_: you should take a look into the official wiki page regarding that broadcom chips that the bot linked.
[16:08] <tax-agent> vipin install compiz or xcompmgr
[16:08] <k1l> vipin: you need a 3d vga driver for most docks
[16:09] <islevegan> for example, in the bluetooth tray > Local services > Network > DUN Support > i have 2 options, NetworkManager or Blueman. In PAN Support I have the came options.
[16:09] <_helios_> Adeeb, I think that will delete everything it has permission to
[16:09] <vipin> how do i do that?
[16:09] <ericus> Adeeb, it depends
[16:09] <tax-agent> vipin what card do u have amd or nvidia
[16:10] <vipin> i hav nothing. its a crapy old laptop with just 256 mb ram and no graphic card
[16:10] <ericus> Adeeb, if you're in, let's say /home/user/randomfolder and run that command, everything in randomfolder will be deleted
[16:10] <VlanX> how can i set compression level while zipping a folder???  Can anybody help me out with that?
[16:10] <k1l> vipin: so i dont see a chance to run a dock which need fancy 3d-support to run on that thing
[16:10] <tax-agent> so u mean shared memory.......so then just install xcompmgr from terminal vipin
[16:11] <zykotick9> vipin: from terminal "lspci | grep -i vga" to find your graphics card
[16:11] <zniavre> good afternoon , im tryind to theme a bit unity but im stuck with strange shadow between panel and launcher ( http://i.imgur.com/CxELtD9.png ) any idea how to remove it please ?
[16:11] <ericus> Adeeb, if you're in /, then everything will be deleted. Not recommended
[16:11] <Lapp3n> Hej alla ubuntu kunniga... :)
[16:11] <Adeeb> Are you trying to tell me that if it is ran as "sudo rm -rf *", it will remove everything --- even the OS files provided that the current directory is /?
[16:11] <ericus> hej Lapp3n
[16:12] <Lapp3n> ericus: Detta är inte den svenska delen.. hahha
[16:12] <ericus> I know Lapp3n
[16:13] <ericus> Adeeb, yes, as much as is possible to remove. Bad idea.
[16:14] <Fuzolan> adeeb: it depends on the current directory
[16:14] <ericus> if the cd is /, then it would be a disaster
[16:14] <islevegan> and in bluetooth tray > Plugins > there are many different items, some of which claim a conflict with others and i'm given a choice of either, not both. For example, NMDUNSupport conflicts with PPPSupport and NMINtegration while PPPSupport conflicts with NMIntegration and DhcpClient while PPPSupport conflicts with NMIntegration. I'm not sure which combination is correct.
[16:14] <vipin> tax agent, i did what u said, it now says "GA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[16:15] <vipin> yes i did
[16:15] <asaram-bapu> so you installed xcompmgr from terminal vipin??
[16:17] <vipin> yes i did... i installed the docky dock too... it works but has a black rectangle around it... i installed xcompmgr and when i run it, the dock works properly and the rectangle is gone and it works proprly with all effects, but as soon as i close the terminal, it again stops working properly
[16:18] <asaram-bapu> CORRECT!
[16:18] <asaram-bapu> the terminal keeps xcompmgr running as a process thats why!!
[16:18] <vipin> so how can i fix it?
[16:19] <asaram-bapu> vipin just press ALT+F2 and type xcompmgr in the run box........THATS it
[16:20] <vipin> nothing happened
[16:21] <asaram-bapu> then for now just run it from terminal and keep it minimized .....Dont Close it!
[16:21] <vipin> ok
[16:21] <vipin> how can i add xcompmgr to the auto start program list?
[16:22] <Jaboc> Hello, does anyone know how to boot Ubuntu from disc on a macbook with a new hard drive?
[16:22] <asaram-bapu> vipin ...goto system tools-----preferences-------startup applications
[16:23] <vipin> i dont have preferences option under system tools
[16:23] <samba35> i have nokia 3500c phone i want to connect to internet using this phone ,how do i connect i tryed with wvdail but i get message on phone subcrib to packet data 1st and wvdail goes in redial attempt
[16:23] <riot_le> Press alt+d when Boot @Jaboc
[16:24] <layke_> Not sure on the best channel? If I connect to a host using ssh, I specify the key to use usign, -i ~/.ssh/key how would I do the same using scp?
[16:24] <asaram-bapu> vipin install gnome-session-properties
[16:24] <Jaboc> okay ill try that thank you @riot
[16:25] <layke_> I want to copy from.. so I am trying this
[16:26] <vipin> ok.. can u give me the code to install that?
[16:26] <layke_> scp -i ~/.ssh/Master.pem ubuntu@host/vol/file.sql.gz .
[16:26] <layke_> But I get a cannot stat.. error.
[16:26] <asaram-bapu> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-properties
[16:28] <bennett1> hi! anyone knows how to change the appearance of lightdm's login box?
[16:28] <bennett1> in special, I wanted to change the color that goes behind a selected text
[16:28] <layke_> Ah I was missing the :
[16:30] <Lapp3n_> ericus: Var tvungen byta dator..:S
[16:30] <havok-laptop> Hello, I'm having some trouble with booting the "Try ubuntu" option
[16:31] <havok-laptop> It gets stuck at the loading screen :/
[16:31] <Jaboc> okay trying to boot ubuntu from a dvd/iso from a clean hard drive on a macbook. Tried to push option+D and nothing happened. When I just hold option down during restart I got a mouse cursor on an otherwise white screen. How can I get the macbook to read the dvd?
[16:31] <keelG> hold down ALT or C instead
[16:33] <Lapp3n_> I have a problem with big icones on my wifes ubuntu... How do I get smaller icones .. I have the resolution 1920x1280
[16:33] <asaram-bapu> hi Devaki
[16:33] <Devaki> Hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu 12.10 to my another computer, but unfortunately i have a problem with netwrok. ubuntu doesnt detect any wireless connectionss.
[16:33] <Devaki> Anyone knows wha might bethe question ?
[16:34] <asaram-bapu> what card u using Devaki
[16:34] <Devaki> how do i check that ?
[16:34] <asaram-bapu> lspci dump from terminal
[16:35] <Jaboc> @keelG. I just tried that, got the flashing question mark and the white screen. Is it possible the .iso burn is corruputed somehow?
[16:37] <keelG> Jaboc: I would test the CD on another system and/or make a MD5 sum or something to verify your download of the iso :)
[16:37] <Devaki> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
[16:37] <Devaki> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
[16:38] <Jaboc> keelg: Thank you!
[16:38] <Devaki> lspci returns that , asarm-baqu
[16:38] <Devaki> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312
[16:38] <asaram-bapu> S*** another guy 1 min ago had the same card!!!!
[16:38] <FergusL> is there something special in Ubuntu (server) not having all cpu drivers ncluded ?
[16:38] <FergusL> can't seem to add the right kernel module for my old CPU
[16:39] <asaram-bapu> there are many answers on google search try askubuntu.com Devaki
[16:40] <k1l_> !broadcom | Devaki
[16:41] <k1l_> Devaki: see this page and try either the sta driver and/or the b43 driver
[16:41] <asaram-bapu> k1l, your'e the man THANK YOU
[16:43] <havok-laptop> Lets try again. I'm trying to start the "Try ubuntu" option, but I get stuck at the boot screen with the five dots. The version I'm trying with is 12.04.1 for 64bit via usb
[16:45] <keelG> havok-laptop: low-tech testing, have you tried on another known-good system?
[16:45] <keelG> havok-laptop: also, I seem to recall you can press esc, and see where in the boot process it gets stuck
[16:46] <Ghrim> How do I make ubuntu respect my mouse settings? there is no way to turn off acceleration in the GUI so I set it with xinput, which works, but only for about two seconds, then the acceleration kicks back in again.
[16:46] <havok-laptop> keelG: If you mean tried on another computer, yes. The laptop i'm on now atm is running ubuntu with the exact same usb installer
[16:47] <keelG> havok-laptop: try the other thing, with ESC then
[16:51] <havok-laptop> keelG: It's stuck at a line that says "fbcon: Remapping primary device, fb1, to tty 1-63"
[16:52] <havok-laptop> line above that is "fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb1) is primary device"
[17:02] <spab> Okay.  This sucks.
[17:02] <spab> I'm mounting remote NFS exports from my media server on my local machine
[17:02] <spab> And 2 of 3 will mount with the right user and group
[17:03] <spab> But another refuses to mount locally as anything but nobody:nogroup
[17:03] <spab> Two of the three mounts on the server are physical partitions from /mnt
[17:03] <spab> But one is a directory in a user home directory
[17:04] <spab> Do my UIDs have to be the same on both machines of that user for this to mount right?
[17:05] <malcom2073> Hey, I'm getting an error: "(xfce4-appfinder:31467): xfce4-appfinder-CRITICAL **: Failed to open window: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."  which causes a 3 second delay whenever I try to launch a particular application, how can I track down what might be causing this?
[17:05] <escott> spab, or you have to map them in your exports
[17:05] <spab> It's mapped in my exports
[17:05] <spab> It mounts
[17:06] <spab> locally that is
[17:06] <spab> But it won't give readwrite access
[17:06] <spab> The other two mounted exports are root:root, but the problem export is nobody:nogroup and I cannot for the life of me figure this out
[17:07] <spab> My /etc/exports lines for all 3 are identical so it *should* work, but doesn't
[17:07] <spab> I mean it mounts, I can df and see it, but can't read/write
[17:09] <spab> And changing the UID/GID prior to mounting has no effect
[17:09] <spab> It just changes back to nobody:nogroup
[17:10] <spab> I have my suspicions that it has something to do with the problem mount being in a user's home directory but Google is being stubborn, or i'm not searching right, so I said "screw this noise; freenode"
[17:10] <solidoodlesuppor> Hello everybody!
[17:10] <solidoodlesuppor> Anybody tried a tiling window manager for ubuntu?
[17:12] <escott> solidoodlesuppor, what desktop are you using
[17:12] <spab> malcom2073, I presume you Googled your error?
[17:12] <malcom2073> spab: Yeah, most results I was finding was people thinking their application was being run as root
[17:12] <malcom2073> I've figured out a workaround though, so I'm not gonna worry about it.
[17:13] <waveform> Hello all!
[17:13] <spab> Hi there, waveform!
[17:13] <escott> spab, can the non-root user access a folder owned by a non-root user in one of the working directories
[17:13] <spab> escott let me check quick
[17:14] <waveform> I was here yesterday trying to troubleshoot some odd freezing I'm seeing with 12.0.4
[17:14] <waveform> I was previously running headless and the system just kept freezing for no particular reason and nothing was in the logs
[17:14] <spab> escott, yes
[17:14] <waveform> I hooked up my video card and ran mem test on it... no errors found with memory
[17:15] <waveform> booted into Ubuntu now with video cards hooked up and started down my normal path of getting things up and running and there was a kernel panic
[17:15] <spab> waveform, I have to ask, could this be a temperature issue?
[17:16] <waveform> don't think so spab, nothing has changed and the system has never had similar issues, especially temperature issues
[17:16] <spab> waveform, any recent system updates?
[17:16] <waveform> unless the cpu cooler came unseated or something odd
[17:16] <waveform> yes spab I did do the latest ubuntu system updates
[17:16] <escott> waveform, what was the panic
[17:16] <waveform> hmmm I've got a screenshot of it I took with my phone
[17:16] <waveform> not sure how to tell with it
[17:17] <waveform> sec
[17:18] <waveform> image of kernel panic
[17:18] <waveform> http://imgur.com/twgUoDc
[17:18] <spab> Gah, this is the kind of crap that makes me want to pay a high school kid to fix
[17:19] <thechef> How can I ban the package ttf-corefonts-installer forever from ever being installed again together with other recommends? It's one of the package I do not enjoy at all, because it usually messes up my system with ugly fonts and besides requires accepting an EULA in an otherwise automated installation procedure.
[17:19] <spab> I gave up on sysadmin stuff like 5 years ago, I realized I got no joy at all from it anymore
[17:19] <waveform> escott: if you get a chance to glance at that link I pinged let me know
[17:20] <[1]lg188> Hello Aptitude is suggesting packages I do not need. I have no dependencies left according to apt-get check.
[17:20] <[1]lg188> And it pisses me off.
[17:20] <spab> thechef, I think I know how
[17:20] <iceroot> !language | [1]lg188
[17:20] <kostkon> !aptitude | [1]lg188
[17:21] <kostkon> [1]lg188, be careful with it
[17:21] <iceroot> [1]lg188: and what is wrong if aptitude is suggesting something?
[17:21] <spab> Add the following line to your /etc/apt/preferences
[17:21] <spab> Package: nameofpackage
[17:21] <spab> Pin: origin ""
[17:21] <[1]lg188> iceroot, I'm not going to rage on anyon I'm just expressing my frustration.
[17:21] <[1]lg188> anyone*
[17:21] <spab> Pin-Priority: -1
[17:21] <iceroot> [1]lg188: not here
[17:21] <jrib> [1]lg188: this channel is for asking and getting help.  If you want help, can you pastebin the actual aptitude and apt-get output?
[17:21] <zykotick9> [1]lg188: check "man aptitude" and read about the -R / --without-recommends option
[17:22] <spab> By giving negative priority for this PIN you will block the installation of the package from any origin
[17:22] <[1]lg188> zykotick9, does it stop from suggestion for ever?
[17:22] <thechef> spab: Thanks!
[17:22] <zykotick9> [1]lg188: no
[17:22] <kostkon> [1]lg188, i would recommend to avoid using it per warning from ubottu above
[17:23] <Ghrim> How do I get rid of mouse acceleration??
[17:23] <Hasselsaurus> Has anyone else spent time fighting with the AMD HD6450 and HDMI audio under 12.10?
[17:23] <[1]lg188> koturk, I have only 1 architecture x86
[17:23] <kostkon> [1]lg188, is it a 32 or 64 installation?
[17:24] <spab> kostkon, try xinput set-prop 14 273 -1
[17:24] <[1]lg188> 32bit server
[17:24] <kostkon> spab, ??
[17:24] <kostkon> [1]lg188, ok
[17:24] <spab> At your terminal window
[17:24] <spab> It may need to be sudo'd
[17:26] <spab> kostkon, it will only be active for the current session, if you want it permanent you'll need to create a shell script and add it to your startup applications in System -> Startup Preferences
[17:26] <escott> waveform, yeah im not sure either
[17:26] <spab> It's a bit of a kludge but it works
[17:27] <waveform> yea ;-\ hmmm
[17:28] <escott> waveform, this is on the guest?
[17:28] <waveform> sorry on the guest?
[17:28] <waveform> what do you mean exactly escott
[17:28] <bianca> hey guys, ive been having this uissue with ubuntu and linux mint on my laptop where after i update i get a disk is read only error, and when i googled it the solution was to use the ext3 file system instead of 4
[17:29] <escott> waveform, you have vbox modules loaded. is this the host or the guest
[17:29] <bianca> will that have any negitive effects? or is it just the same?
[17:29] <waveform> ohhh this is host
[17:29] <escott> !mint | bianca
[17:29] <waveform> not running a guest
[17:29] <waveform> I just had installed virtualbox to do some testing
[17:29] <waveform> with an XP VM
[17:29] <bianca> i said ubuntu and mint you moron
[17:30] <xangua> !attitude | bianca
[17:30] <spab> bianca, is there a specific error you can paste/type?  That will help to understand the issue further.
[17:30] <bianca> im just asking if using ext 3 will make my laptop slow or anything
[17:30] <spab> bianca: ignore the bot, s/he is trying to govern politeness.  But don't swear.
[17:31] <bianca> omg i give up talking to you people
[17:31] <[1]lg188> bianca, !]
[17:31] <solidoodlesuppor> escott: I use xfce
[17:31] <solidoodlesuppor> It's lite. Is there a window manager for that?
[17:31] <[1]lg188> Woops
[17:31] <escott> solidoodlesuppor, so you can probably use any window manager you want
[17:32] <solidoodlesuppor> Ah! Care to give a recommendation? I'm not familiar with the choices for ubuntu
[17:32] <solidoodlesuppor> <all my buddies use arch>
[17:32] <ThinkT510> solidoodlesuppor: xfce uses xfwm
[17:33] <bianca> sooo is ext3 the same?
[17:33] <escott> solidoodlesuppor, xmonad is the classic version.
[17:33] <solidoodlesuppor> That's the one in haskal right? I'm looking for something with lots o' fancy keyboard shortcuts ^_^
[17:33] <dr_willis> ext3 should work bianca  - but ive never heard of such a problem with ext4...
[17:33] <bianca> okay thanks for answering my only question :) youve all been a huge help with your stupid comments and ignoring my question to point and make stupid comments
[17:33] <dr_willis> and theres a great many people using ext4
[17:34] <BigMallet> Where can I view my websites added to favorites
[17:34] <dr_willis> i would suspect hardware failure. bianca ..
[17:34] <ThinkT510> BigMallet: doesn't that depend on your browser?
[17:34] <bianca> naw ive been coming here for a week and nobody every fucking helps, you pick and choose what your read and seem to have no idea what yous are talking baout
[17:35]  * dr_willis thought he was helping....
[17:35] <kmicu> I added "application in terminal" entry to Main Menu. How I can have it available in Startup Applications?
[17:35] <ThinkT510> bianca: like dr_willis said, sounds like a hardware issue, ext4 works great for me
[17:35] <BigMallet> Where can I find my recently added Favorites
[17:36] <kmicu> Or how can I run application in terminal from Startup Applications?
[17:36] <bianca> well not for me and my hdd works in my pc just fine, and windows works just fine
[17:36] <morf_> Hello, does someone know where to find grub's menu.lst in Mint 12/Ubuntu 11?
[17:36] <ThinkT510> BigMallet: favourites for what? are you in a browser?
[17:36] <bianca> linux just doesnt support my outragiously generic and modern laptop
[17:36] <dr_willis> hds often work.. untill they totally fail  and can be flakey in bteween
[17:36] <dr_willis> but im done helping
[17:36] <[1]lg188> bianca don't push it
[17:37] <escott> thank you jrib
[17:37] <Industrial`> Can I set Unity gtk looks outside of Unity wm sessions? e.g. in i3wm
[17:37] <morf_> nobody?
[17:37] <Industrial`> default gtk is butt ugly
[17:37] <dr_willis> morf_:  try the locate command...
[17:38] <BigMallet> locate: manual
[17:38] <[1]lg188> okay guys now it's fixed. Thanks
[17:38] <morf_> dr_willis: Only an example-file in /usr/share/docs/
[17:39] <dr_willis> morf_:  you do realize that most distros are using r grub2 these days.. and grub2 dosent use a menu.lst
[17:39] <zykotick9> dr_willis: tough time locating a menu.lst in grub2 ;)
[17:39] <iceroot> heise.de
[17:39] <BigMallet> How can I open a word document in xterm?
[17:39] <escott> BigMallet, libreoffice filename.doc
[17:39] <pooltable> help best music tags edit for ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[17:39] <zykotick9> BigMallet: with libreoffice or actually as a text file?
[17:39] <spab> morf_, yeah, they changed over to grub.cfg in 9.x
[17:39] <dr_willis> !grub2 | morf_
[17:40] <BigMallet> zykes-, Text
[17:40] <zykotick9> BigMallet: see if ubuntu has antiword available
[17:40] <morf_> Hm okay, tank you.
[17:40] <BigMallet> zykes-, Anitword?
[17:40] <morf_> thank*
[17:40] <BigMallet> Antiword?
[17:40] <dr_willis> !find antiword
[17:40] <dr_willis> ;)
[17:40] <pooltable> adiword ???
[17:41] <zykotick9> BigMallet: 1) tab fail 2) sorry, i guess ubuntu doesn't have it
[17:41] <dr_willis> !info antiword
[17:41] <dr_willis> yes it does
[17:41] <zykotick9> dr_willis: thanks
[17:41] <BigMallet> ubottu, AWESOME!
[17:41] <BigMallet> Thats exactly what I need
[17:41] <pooltable> help best music tags edit for ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[17:42] <dr_willis> !best | pooltable
[17:42] <BigMallet> dr_willis, Should I download from xterm or the browser?
[17:42] <dr_willis> pooltable:  theres a dozen+ tag editor apps in the repos
[17:42] <dr_willis> BigMallet:  huh?   its in the repos.. use the packge manager tools of course....
[17:42] <dr_willis> thats why they exist
[17:43] <spab> Haha, every time I come here with an un-Googleable problem I wind up spending hours helping out others
[17:43] <pooltable> ok sorry easy to use ?
[17:43] <DarkSnow> #ubuntu-fr
[17:43] <spab> I blame the 90s
[17:43] <dr_willis> pooltable:  use the package manager tools/software center to search and look at whats there.
[17:43] <tungst> hi all
[17:44] <pooltable> oko
[17:44] <ThinkT510> spab: whats the issue?
[17:45] <spab> ThinkT510, I switched over from samba to nfs to mount from Ubuntu to Ubuntu, and one export mounts as nobody:nogroup and the others are root:root, I can't read/write to my mount
[17:45] <spab> ThinkT510, I can mount the problem NFS export from the server to the local machine, 'df' and see space, but that's all I can do
[17:45] <viderbit> Yo dudes :)
[17:46] <spab> ThinkT510, the two working exports are mounted physical disks on the server in /mnt, but my problem export is a folder in a user home directory
[17:46] <ThinkT510> spab: ah, sorry i'm useless on those issues
[17:46] <spab> ThinkT510, thanks for asking.  Asking is always good.
[17:46] <dr_willis> spab:  i tend to usse sshfs to get to users homes. ;) but it will be slower then nfs i imagine
[17:47] <super-supandi> hello Doctor
[17:47] <spab> dr_willis, I used sshfs for the longest time, then needed to mount from a Windows client and switched to Samba, but that was stuttery and slow for video files,so a few days ago I made the switch to NFS
[17:48] <spab> And on the media disk, it's exponentially faster
[17:48] <pooltable> try easttag thanks for the help
[17:48] <spab> And ditched that Windows machine
[17:48] <dr_willis> ive switched to dlna/ushare/upnp for my media shares.  ;)
[17:48] <pooltable> easy
[17:48] <blbrown_win3> does ubuntu12.10 have built-In twitter support (writing and reading)
[17:48] <zykotick9> spab: fyi, when sharing over NFS - it's UIDs not usernames that are actually used (at least by default).  so if UID 1000 is owner on server, client will map to it's UID 1000 (even if the names are different).  I'm not sure this will help you right now though.
[17:49] <pooltable> does any know a cheap laptop screen repair shop ?
[17:49] <dr_willis> pooltable:  i doubt if such a thing exists as a 'cheap' one.
[17:49] <dr_willis> replacement parts cost as much as a new laptop it seems
[17:49] <spab> zykotick9, HRMMM.  I had my suspicions this could be a UID issue but couldn't find any Google answers
[17:50] <spab> pooltable, you can do it yourself
[17:50] <waveform> escott: I checked my BIOS and am running the latest version I did notice some interesting settings on the RAM voltages etc
[17:50] <spab> pooltable, it's an evening with a few beers but it is very, very simple providing you have an antistatic wrist strap
[17:50] <waveform> set them back to their defaults
[17:50] <waveform> and CPU back to its defaults
[17:50] <waveform> want to make sure it isn't some oddness
[17:50] <pooltable> spab i think i can but not sure where to buy the screen from ?
[17:51] <super-supandi> hallo
[17:51] <spab> pooltable, what make/model laptop?  I have done 3, and bought them from China on eBay with no flaws
[17:51] <spab> Not even a dead pixel
[17:51] <DJones> pooltable: Maybe ask in ##hardware people there may be able to suggest somewhere
[17:51] <pooltable> asus k53u
[17:51] <spab> pooltable, let me check for you
[17:51] <pooltable> spad thanks
[17:52] <sleon_> hello
[17:52] <sleon_> say something
[17:52] <wector> Hello
[17:52] <spab> pooltable, you may have to open the laptop display and get the physical model number off the back of the LCD
[17:52] <sleon_> how are you wector
[17:52] <spab> pooltable, is it a 15.6" LCD?
[17:52] <wector> Sorry
[17:53] <spab> I found one for 59.87 on Amazon
[17:53] <pooltable> send link please?
[17:53] <spab> pooltable, back up -- did you break it, or did it just go dead?
[17:53] <spab> If it went dead, it could be a backlight inverter problem
[17:53] <pooltable> spab step on it
[17:53] <spab> http://www.amazon.com/Asus-K53U-Laptop-Screen-Replacement/dp/B008C4WND8
[17:53] <spab> Sorry, robots if that offends
[17:55] <abhi92> hi guys ,iam new to ubuntu.i cannot install softwares since  'make 'command shows error as :"make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."plz help me.
[17:55] <escott> abhi92, there has to be a makefile in your working directory
[17:56] <ThinkT510> abhi92: compiling should be the very last resort
[17:56] <dr_willis> abhi92:  not all  source code uses a make file
[17:56] <zxz> Hi guys
[17:56] <zykotick9> ThinkT510: +1
[17:56] <ThinkT510> !software | abhi92
[17:56] <spab> abhi92, is the software you want not available with the apt packages?
[17:56] <DJones> abhi92: What are you trying to install? Generally, Ubuntu users just install from the official repo's
[17:56] <kovu> please can someone help me install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu
[17:56] <PhatTony> When I run antiword in terminal, I keep getting file size isnt readable
[17:56] <tina-patel> hi
[17:56] <PhatTony> Sugggestions?
[17:56] <PhatTony> Suggestions?
[17:57] <dr_willis> PhatTony:  whats the exact commandyou are using?
[17:57] <PhatTony> dr_willis, antiword filename
[17:57] <escott> PhatTony, does antiword support docx?
[17:57] <dr_willis> check its man pages?  it may want other options. or have limits
[17:58] <spab> PhatTony, are you using any non-english characters?
[17:58] <spab> I have had trouble with antiword and cyrillics and umlauts
[17:58] <dr_willis> and be sure you are using the proper filename ;)
[17:58] <PhatTony> dr_willis, I use tab to fill in the name
[17:59] <pooltable> spad docx is windows 2007 and up end of file ext
[18:01] <PhatTony> ls
[18:01] <dr_willis> file not found
[18:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:03] <kovu> please can someone help me install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu
[18:04] <PhatTony> Anyone  know how to setup a cron job?
[18:05] <ThinkT510> !cron | PhatTony
[18:05] <julian> hello
[18:05] <julian> çfriend
[18:07] <gregL> PhatTony,  It's pretty easy if you install the package schedule tasks
[18:07] <PhatTony> gregL, Do I do a apt-get
[18:08] <gregL> PhatTony, It should be in the Software center
[18:08] <replica> my cd contents are not read whn i plac it into my dvd wat shd i do any help
[18:09] <spab> replica, I have a stupid question, are you putting your DVD into just a CD-ROM non-DVD drive?
[18:09] <replica> :| my dvd into my dvd drive itself
[18:12] <kovu> please can someone help me install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu
[18:13] <escott> kovu, is that not supported by cups?
[18:13] <replica> my cd contents are nit displyed whn i put the cd into my dvd reader do i have problm with my dvd drivers any help
[18:13] <escott> replica, what kind of cd is it
[18:13] <replica> it has songs in it
[18:14] <escott> replica, like mp3s?
[18:14] <replica> yes i am kind of new to ubuntu
[18:14] <escott> replica, because an audio cd doesnt have files on it
[18:14] <kovu> no
[18:15] <kovu> it isnt
[18:15] <replica> it has
[18:15] <replica> does my cd get mounted on my task bar whn it reads
[18:15] <replica> ?
[18:15] <kovu> it has a ppd driver but i cant install it in the cups folder as i need to be root
[18:15] <escott> replica, then i would (a) see if you can find the cd drive on the left in nautilus. failing that try to run "udisks --mount /dev/dvd" failing that check "cat /proc/partitions"
[18:16] <msanford> use sudo command to access root
[18:16] <escott> !sudo | kovu
[18:16] <dbrom> anyone use freenas... have a question and the freenas room is dead
[18:16] <replica> escott replica@Replica:~$ udisks --mount /dev/dvd
[18:16] <replica> Mount failed: Error mounting: mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0
[18:17] <PhatTony> !sudo | kovu
[18:17] <escott> replica, does that cd work on other computers? do other cds work in that drive?
[18:17] <PhatTony> !sudo ufw
[18:17] <replica> yes
[18:17] <xxiao> after a while ubuntu is mixed with original packages, checkinstalls, local make-install, any tool to analysis the status and possibly return to an original ubuntu state?
[18:17] <Bakou> Has anyone run into issues with strongswan rejecting your CA cert because it "lacks basic constraints"?
[18:17] <escott> xxiao, reinstall
[18:18] <xxiao> escott: sigh
[18:18] <replica> the cd spins whn i tak it out but the cd dosnt get mounted nor can i see its contents
[18:19] <spab> dbrom, I did FreeNAS once, what's up?
[18:20] <dbrom> ok I have a user created and is able to login ove scp to the box but its able to to more then just the home directory
[18:20] <kovu> that command dont work
[18:20] <kovu> the command !sudo|kovu dont work
[18:21] <msanford> use sudo infront of a command for root privledges
[18:21] <ThinkT510> kovu: read what the bot wrote
[18:21] <escott> dbrom, "able to to more then"
[18:22] <dbrom> ok... set it to use /mnt/data/bob as its home dir but its able to go to /mnt/data and see other directories
[18:23] <escott> dbrom, yes
[18:23] <ultramancool> I keep getting errors like this, http://img.trulz.ca/11.png anyone have ideas?
[18:23] <kovu> the problem is that it knows the converter cable but cant see the printer
[18:23] <dbrom> dont want the users to go out side of its home directory
[18:23] <escott> dbrom, then you shouldnt be using scp
[18:23] <spab> kovu, does a USB device show up in your system log when you plug the printer in (assuming it's USB)
[18:24] <PhatTony> !kismet
[18:24] <dbrom> ftp would do it
[18:24] <ThinkT510> !brain > PhatTony
[18:24] <escott> dbrom, http://www.minstrel.org.uk/papers/sftp/
[18:25] <carlom61> anybody can help me with Ubuntu 12.10 + NVIDIA drivers installation (to avoid any Unity issue on reboot after install)?
[18:25] <PhatTony> Got it... reading now...
[18:25] <elliot-666> sorry I'm a bit of a noob to Linux
[18:26] <replica> :D hehe i didnt dowload the drivers yet the thrid party one noob me
[18:26] <ThinkT510> elliot-666: we all start somewhere
[18:26] <elliot-666> lol indeed
[18:26] <dbrom> still able to go outside of the home directory
[18:27] <xirtoth> Hello, anyone have any idea about inte gpu drivers? most of games etc are not starting with default ones.. is theres some 3rd party ones i can use?
[18:27] <Seven_Six_Two> tried to install ampache, failed, stating "Something weird has happened,  unable to create ampache vhost.". Looked up bug, found one (#996507) that says a fix was released 6 months ago.
[18:27] <escott> dbrom, still what? you clearly havent had time to read and implement everything in the webpage i sent you
[18:27] <elliot-666> I really like LInux so far.
[18:27] <replica> escott are third party drivers necessary do thy have dvd drivers too to read the cd contents ?
[18:28] <ThinkT510> xirtoth: intel drivers are already in the kernel, you shouldn't need to install any
[18:28] <xirtoth> thinkt510, ok ty
[18:28] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know the channel for wine?
[18:28] <kovu> please can someone help me install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu i am a noob
[18:28] <escott> replica, you should not need any special driver. either the cd is strangely formated or improperly burned or the dvd reader is broken
[18:28] <ThinkT510> Pinkamena_D: #winehq
[18:28] <Pinkamena_D> thanks
[18:28] <kovu> i am new to ubuntu
[18:29] <elliot-666> :)
[18:29] <replica> hmmm will look into it thnkx anyways escott
[18:30] <elliot-666> is there any way to have propellerhead's Reason 5.0 work on Ubuntu?
[18:30] <AminosAmigos> just lainched myunity to do some tweaks got a msg sayin i am running unity 2D ! How do i check with terminal if that's true ??
[18:30] <xirtoth> like when i try amnesia demo, it just crashes after load screen.. i seen it work in youtube with same hardware i have.
[18:31] <ThinkT510> AminosAmigos: ps aux | grep metacity
[18:31] <kovu> please can someone help me install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu i am a noob
[18:31] <elliot-666> anyone know how to use Reason 5.0 on Linux?
[18:32] <ThinkT510> elliot-666: is it a windows app?
[18:32] <elliot-666> yes
[18:32] <ThinkT510> !wine | elliot-666
[18:32] <dr_willis> i wonder if anyone ecven knows what reason 5.0 is
[18:32] <lucis> Hi all i have a question: I am trying to output my log files to a database. and am following this guide : http://vermeer.org/docs/1   . Yet i seem to be stuck at mport-to-oracle.sh  #to write files to the fifo we have a job import-to-oracle.sh #!/bin/sh nohup sqlplus username/password@dbname @/dev/ora.pipe >/dev/null &
[18:32] <elliot-666> okay
[18:32] <elliot-666> thank you very much
[18:32] <kovu> please can someone help me install a bj-10sx printer on ubuntu i am a noob
[18:32] <lucis> it does not tell me where to create/place this script
[18:32] <escott> kovu, please stop asking the same question. its not specific enough
[18:33] <dr_willis> kovu:  you have looked at the forums and askubuntu.com about that printer?
[18:33] <wall> hi alll
[18:33] <wall> !!!!!!!!!
[18:33] <escott> lucis, wherever you would like
[18:33] <matrixa1> Quakelive isn't going into match, simply not starting, not windowed mode or anything, any idea?
[18:34] <lucis> escott expected as much :) thx for the heads up
[18:34] <kovu> i am here for help to for people like escott to hinder me
[18:34] <AminosAmigos> yeah got two metacity in red does that mean i am in 2d ? ThinkT510
[18:34] <dr_willis> kovu:  so have you cheecked out the forums and askubuntu.com ?
[18:34] <kovu> yes i made a thread
[18:34] <kovu> 0 replies and 99 views
[18:34] <dr_willis> did you search first?
[18:35] <ThinkT510> AminosAmigos: if metacity turned up in the grep search then yes, unity used compiz, unity2d uses metacity
[18:35] <CounterPillow> Hi, when I try to remove the openjdk-6-jre in favour of openjdk-7-jre-headless Ubuntu tries to install the entirety of gnome. https://gist.github.com/53deb6fde915f46ed138
[18:35] <kovu> yes i did a search but no results
[18:36] <escott> kovu, i dont see how i am hindering you. the fact is you won't get help with such a vague question
[18:36] <escott> !details | kovu
[18:36] <dr_willis> kovu:   both sites? the forums and askubuntu.com
[18:36] <kovu> yes both sites
[18:37] <jg47hm> how to move a file into home folder
[18:37] <kovu> i am running ubuntu 12.10 i am having problems with a bj-10sx printer not comming up when i type slusb in console the converter shows but the printer does not or is unknows printer
[18:38] <kovu> i think it was slusb or whatever that command is
[18:38] <dr_willis> what converter?
[18:38] <escott> kovu, so you need to get a driver. file for it
[18:38] <ThinkT510> kovu: lsusb
[18:38] <kovu> a parrellel to use converter
[18:38] <kovu> lsusb thats it
[18:38] <dr_willis> egads.. somhing that old? ;)
[18:38] <kovu> i tried but the ppd file i downloaded i dont have a clue what to do with
[18:39] <CounterPillow> Also, my server for some reason thinks it desperately needs X11 installed, and wanting to remove x11-common package makes it barf on  default-jre : Depends: openjdk-6-jre (>= 6b23~pre11-1ubuntu1~) but it is not going to be installed
[18:39] <zygoptera> kovu >> Looking up your situation on linuxquestions_org, not all usb to parallel adapters are supported by linux. Some are windows only. The ones not supported by linux are seen only as unknown usb devices.
[18:40] <kovu> i typed in on google bj-10sx printer driver ubuntu and it came up with a site
[18:40] <aaamourao> Hey, I have a problem with GRUB. I installed Ubuntu after Windows, but my MBR was not replaced by GRUB. My boot manager still being Windows Boot Manager and I don't know why. I tried to use a live disk to use grub install, and although the commands returned ok, nothing changed. I just can boot Ubuntu  using Super Grub2 Disk. Someone here can help me?
[18:40] <escott> kovu, that file needs to be put somewhere in /usr/share/ppd there should be exact instructions that came with the download
[18:40] <escott> aaamourao, what version of windows?
[18:41] <aaamourao> and I'm sure that I installed GRUN at SDA and not a partition
[18:41] <zygoptera> kovu >> It does not matter if your printer is supported by linux if your usb to parallel adapter is not.
[18:41] <escott> !pm | aaamourao
[18:42] <aaamourao> escott: I use Windows 7
[18:42] <Galaxor> I made a startup usb key
[18:42] <Galaxor> I try to get my bios to boot to it with uefi, and it acts differently than when I boot to the key using regular mode.
[18:42] <kovu> it shows as an usb device unnamed ptinter
[18:42] <escott> aaamourao, paste the output of "sudo parted -l" to paste.ubuntu.com. you might also download and run the boot-info-script from sourceforge
[18:42] <Galaxor> Unfortunately, the main difference is that it just shows a black screen and never boots up.
[18:43] <Galaxor> If I don't boot to the key in uefi mode, the installer won't recognize that uefi is an option.
[18:43] <escott> !nomodeset | Galaxor
[18:44] <Galaxor> escott, thanks, I'll try that.
[18:45] <CounterPillow> Okay, I managed to fix my problem. I had to remove icedtea-netx first. Apparently Ubuntu's dependency-handling is even more broken than I initially thought
[18:45] <PhatTony> Is there a program what will show me traffic on my wlan
[18:45] <PhatTony> ?
[18:46] <bekks> PhatTony: Sure: iptraf e.g.
[18:46] <Galaxor> PhatTony: I like iftop.
[18:46] <PhatTony> Like symantec endpoint protection
[18:46] <yeats> PhatTony: look into wireshark too
[18:46] <PhatTony> iftop
[18:47] <CounterPillow> wireshark is a bit overkill
[18:48] <yeats> CounterPillow: depends on your needs
[18:49] <CounterPillow> Whether something is overkill or not depends on one's needs? what a revelation
[18:50]  * yakirice coughs
[18:54] <netchip> hey
[18:54] <ThinkT510> straw
[18:54] <netchip> how can I assign a specific IP to a specific service?
[18:55] <ravur> Hi, when (in which place of which script) to mount unionfs to provide roaming profiles?
[18:55] <bekks> netchip: You have to configure the service to bind to that specific servoice.
[18:56] <Galaxor> escott: nomodeset did not help.  Y'know what else is weird is that when I boot using uefi, I don't get the purple screen or the graphical bootup.  I get standard black-and-white grub.  Is that supposed to happen?
[18:56] <escott> Galaxor, sounds reasonable
[18:56] <the_incognito> t
[18:57] <aaamourao> escott: sorry, I am no understanding. What should I do?
[18:59] <arun> hey guys
[18:59] <arun> my bluetooth is not working
[18:59] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm getting this error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107004 on Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not sure how to fix it.
[19:00] <xirtoth> do i need specific drivers for radeon or is it there by default?
[19:00] <Galaxor> escott: Mkay.  Anything else I should try?  I've tried removing quiet nosplash, I tried acpi_osi=...
[19:00] <arun> yes
[19:01] <arun> its defaulti
[19:01] <dr_willis> xirtoth:  radeon is a bit vague. you mean your specific chipset is a radeon? or the radeon drivers are needed for your chipset?
[19:01] <dr_willis> the term gets a little overused.
[19:02] <arun> hey dr_will help me yaar
[19:02] <aaamourao> escott: here is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577596/
[19:02] <arun> my bluetooth is not working
[19:02] <dr_willis> i have 4 bluetooth dongles.. only 1 wworks in linux
[19:02] <dr_willis> ;)
[19:03] <arun> hey i have multiboot in 7 and linux
[19:03] <escott> aaamourao, so you have a gpt disk with an efi partition and a grub_bios partition
[19:03] <escott> it would be strange to have windows 7 booting efi but its not unheard of
[19:03] <arun> so will my bluetooth work properly
[19:03] <dr_willis> arun:  may depend on the exact chipset its useing.
[19:04] <arun> hey how to remove pair from bluetooth
[19:04] <arun> in my ubuntu ?
[19:06] <arun> hey guys r u there'
[19:06] <arun> hey guys r u there?
[19:07] <dr_willis> if it waswent working.. how did you pair it?
[19:07] <aaamourao> escott: yeah, I think so hahaha Did you recognize some mistake that I committed?
[19:08] <arun> it was working before but not now
[19:10] <escott> aaamourao, so grub_bios is an indication that ubuntu installed grub for a bios boot
[19:10] <escott> aaamourao, i would figure out how the system is currently booting windows. presumably it is efi mode in which case you need to install grub-efi
[19:11] <aaamourao> ok
[19:11] <aaamourao> escott: ok, should I "sudo apt-get install grub-efi"?
[19:12] <escott> aaamourao, within a chroot sure
[19:12] <aaamourao> okey, scott.. I install it and run "grub-efi"?
[19:12] <arun> hey
[19:12] <arun> will
[19:12] <aaamourao> escott:  okey, scott.. I install it and run "grub-efi"? after change root, of course
[19:13] <mojtaba> Hi
[19:14] <arun> help me
[19:14] <arun> hey Mr. Will
[19:14] <mojtaba> Could you please let me know what is the equivalent download manager in ubuntu?
[19:14] <bekks> mojtaba: equivalent to what?
[19:15] <tanveer> is this ubuntu ?
[19:15] <tanveer> I need help
[19:15] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to linux and in windows era I used to use IDM.
[19:15] <tanveer> as soon as possible
[19:15] <craigbass1976> I've got 12.04 on /dev/sda2, and 12.10 /dev/sdd5  but grub won't recognize the 12.10 install. I haven't had to mess with grub since I could directly edit menu.lst or grub.conf.  What's the best way to make grub see the install.
[19:15] <DJones> tanveer: Yes it is the ubuntu support channel
[19:15] <mojtaba> bekks: download manager
[19:15] <tanveer> DJones:  HI I want to Install Teamviewer but its not working
[19:15] <bekks> mojtaba: You have to install one, if you need one.
[19:15] <tanveer> DJones:  i just installed fresh Ubuntu 12.10
[19:15] <tanveer> DJones:  and i also have no sound
[19:15] <mojtaba> bekks: Do you know which one is better?
[19:16] <bekks> !best | mojtaba
[19:16] <tanveer> I also couldnt get chrome to work so i installed chromium
[19:16] <minoo> hi
[19:16] <mojtaba> !best | mojtaba
[19:16] <DJones> tanveer: Just ask the channel in general, for the sound issue, you'll need to give details of your sound hardware, what you've done to try getting it working, and what actually happens
[19:17] <PhatTony> Whats the cli to find a program
[19:17] <PhatTony> ?
[19:17] <dr_willis> find in what way?
[19:17] <tanveer> ok DJones  can u help me install Teamviewer??
[19:17] <tanveer> il do sound after
[19:17] <minoo> is there a way to determine which i386 packages are needed for run a specific binary on my amd64 precise workstation?
[19:17] <arun> hey Dr. WIll help me
[19:17] <escott> minoo, ldd
[19:17] <arun> man
[19:17] <DJones> tanveer: Sorry, its not something I've used
[19:17] <dr_willis> arun:  with?
[19:17] <minoo> i dont want to install the complete ia32-libs
[19:17] <tanveer> DJones:  its in the software center but i have no luck installing it
[19:18] <PhatTony> I want to configure iftop but I can't seem to locate it
[19:18] <dr_willis> PhatTony:  start with man iftop
[19:18] <lauratika> after reboot ubuntu wont remember display settings always... anyone knows what can be the issue?
[19:18] <arun> oh at last it worked
[19:18] <mojtaba> I am looking for something equal to IDM in ubuntu
[19:19] <bekks> mojtaba: I guess no one in here ever saw IDM.
[19:19] <mojtaba> could you please let me know what can I choose? I have no idea.
[19:19] <mojtaba> internet download manager
[19:19] <mojtaba> I am pretty new to linux
[19:19] <mojtaba> please help
[19:19] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  i find i rarely need a download manager.. why do you want one?
[19:19] <bluesnow> Anyone know how to solve this problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2107004
[19:20] <bluesnow> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04
[19:20] <bluesnow> with an intel graphics driver
[19:20] <mojtaba> I want to download some files from a website
[19:20] <mojtaba> then how can I do that?
[19:20] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  click on the links?
[19:20] <bekks> mojtaba: Click them in your browser.
[19:20] <tanveer> how do i get
[19:20] <tanveer> Steam on ubuntu?!?
[19:20] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  or you want to give some more detailss...
[19:20] <minoo> escott: if i run ldd <binary> i get: not a dynamic executable
[19:20] <dr_willis> !steam | tanveer
[19:21] <xirtoth> how do i install flash player to firefox on kubuntu? noob on linux :)
[19:21] <mojtaba> dr_willis: There are many files to be downloaded and I want to make schedule for downloading
[19:21] <dr_willis> !flash
[19:21] <dr_willis> mojtaba:  for web site cloneing - httrack.  or check out wget, or curl
[19:21] <xkernel> how to install Ubuntu 12.10 with separate /home partition and also encrypt the whole disk?
[19:22] <mojtaba> dr_willis: suppose you visit a website and would like to download 20 files from there, not the whole website.
[19:22] <zygoptera> xkernel >> if you encrypt your system disk, you will have problems if you ever need to repair files to boot (which happens much too often)
[19:23] <ikonia> xkernel: do you REALLY need to encypt the whole disk, more so as you don't know how to do it
[19:23] <j32a32> I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer Aspire One 725-0899 and I am unable to use the built in mouse pad and I do not have access to an external mouse.
[19:24] <tanveer> my steam on ubuntu is not installing
[19:24] <tanveer> its been saying waiting fo a while
[19:24] <dr_willis> tanveer:  see the ubuntu-steam channel
[19:24] <tanveer> whats it called?
[19:25] <zygoptera> "#ubuntu-steam"
[19:25] <dr_willis> !steam | tanveer  2nd time now...
[19:25] <tanveer> dr_willis:  i still have the same sound problem i am neweruser123  from long time ago
[19:25] <xkernel> ikonia, yes I have to encrypt the whole disk and I'm already on encrypted disk but I need to have separate home partition so I don't restore my whole data every time I install system
[19:25] <tanveer> the sound problem which no one could fix
[19:25] <dr_willis> tanveer:  i doubt if i wold rember it if  it was from 10 min ago... ;0
[19:25] <tanveer> it was from 1 month ago
[19:26] <dr_willis> i rarey mess with sound issues.  since ive rarely had sound issues
[19:26] <psyke83> hey guys. I'm on the 12.10 Ubuntu release, and something is driving me nuts. In gnome-terminal, key navigation is broken. If I press ctrl + left/right/up/down, control codes are printed instead of moving. How can I fix this?
[19:27] <zygoptera> xkernel >> (1) partition the second hdd (2) format that partition (3) add an entry to your fstab pointinh "/home" to that partition
[19:29] <AminosAmigos> I am running unity 2D and i have no idea why any help ?
[19:29] <j32a32> I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer Aspire One 725-0899 and I am unable to use the built in mouse pad and I do not have access to an external mouse
[19:30] <blargg> I have a 101-key keyboard and want to remap caps lock to be a modifier for accessing media keys. e.g. caps lock+F1=volume down, caps lock+F2=volume up, etc.
[19:31] <blargg> I'm thinking that I need to map it to be a fourth modifier, then make F1-F12 have secondary codes when it's pressed, but I'm not sure how.
[19:31] <Cypher27> ubuntu is life
[19:31] <snql> sex*
[19:32] <DJones> snql: Nope, wrong channel & network
[19:32] <xkernel> zygoptera, is ok to resize2fs the root on the working system or do I have to boot with livecd?
[19:32]  * yakirice cheers at DJones
[19:32] <dr_willis> xkernel:  you dont resize a in use fulesystem
[19:33] <j32a32> I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 on my Acer Aspire One 725-0899 and I am unable to use the built in mouse pad and I do not have access to an external mouse any ideas?
[19:34] <l057c0d3r> hello peeps...
[19:35] <yakirice> j32a32: http://askubuntu.com/questions/190489/touchpad-not-working-in-ubuntu-12-04
[19:35] <l057c0d3r> was hoping i could get some help really fast... i didn't set up auto login when i installed ubuntu...  so i went into /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and added autologin-user="My user name" and autologin-user-timeout=5 so it would log me in after 5 seconds if another user was not selected
[19:35] <lucis> j332a32 what i can find is that when you type FN+F7 at the login screen, the touchpad works. the rest is up to you if this is the case.
[19:36] <l057c0d3r> however after 5 seconds instead of login me in..  the password box vanishes and it sais.. failed to authenticate..   where did i go wrong
[19:36] <j32a32> ubuntu recognizes the touch pad as Enabled but it does not work.
[19:36] <yakirice> oh :/
[19:37] <SolarisBoy> is there a specific package to install to avoid these messages "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory" on actions like apt-get installs etc. - it's a debootstrapped ubuntu 12.04.1 precise system
[19:38] <lucis> j32a32 they have mentioned that is indeed so, but it states that in the login screen the fn+f7 should do the trick.  perhaps synclient TouchPadOff=0
[19:38] <yakirice> yeah i just saw that also lucis
[19:38] <j32a32> ok thanks lucis
[19:38] <PeterGriffin> Is it possible to split the console in two and see 2 tty on the same screen in order to tail 2 files simultaneously?
[19:39] <cire> I cannot find package smbfs. Did it get replaced, and if yes, by what?
[19:39] <schallusion> hi, after upgrading to the new kernel (3.2.0.-36) yesterday, my wlan stoped working. It is a Broadcom BCM 4313 device. it does not get an ip address anymore. any idea what could have gone wrong?
[19:39] <bekks> !samba | cire
[19:40] <cire> ubottu: I have a samba server. I need smbfs on the client side.
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> PeterGriffin: terminator can be split easily. Or just open 2 terminals side by side
[19:40] <lucis> schallusion, does the led of the wifi still light up?
[19:40] <cire> bekks: i need sth for doing "mount //server/share /target"
[19:40] <bekks> cire: Install samba.
[19:40] <cire> bekks: samba-common?
[19:41] <cire> I do not want the server
[19:41] <jarray52> Is there a way I can get my edid id number? I want the hexidecimal string version. xrandr --prop fails.
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Schallusion: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i firm     do you see messages about missing firmware
[19:41] <os__konversation> hi
[19:41] <lucis> schallusion, try rfkill unblock all          followed by : ifconfig wlan0 up
[19:41] <PeterGriffin> ActionParsnip: I have only console, no graphics. It's a server
[19:42] <os__konversation> canon pixma mp250 printer doesn't scan anything ..
[19:42] <cire> okay, I think samba4-clients is the way
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> PeterGriffin: ahh, you could use screen. Not sure about side by side
[19:42] <os__konversation> any ideas ?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: did you check the canon Europe site for driver?
[19:43] <herpherp> Hello, someone pretty please take alook at my xorg.conf i cant get nvidia-settings to play nice: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577719/
[19:43] <cire> cifs-utils was the right packagfe
[19:43] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip: i check the offical site
[19:44] <os__konversation> it has a driver for ubuntu 10.04
[19:44] <l057c0d3r> any idea why i get failed to authenticate on login using autoloign?  added autologin-user=USERNAME to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:44] <herpherp> os__konversation: was that for me?
[19:44] <os__konversation> herpherp: no :) sorry
[19:44] <herpherp> oh hehe np np :)
[19:45] <IdleOne> l057c0d3r: I am thinking there is something you need to edit in /etc/pam.d/lightdm but I am not sure what
[19:45] <schallusion> ActionParsnip, lucis: i will try
[19:45] <l057c0d3r> IdleOne, i'll check it out...
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: yes, does the driver work?
[19:45] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip: i didn't try it actually .. :)
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: it doesn't say its for Lucid,  just says Ubuntu and Debian
[19:46] <netchip> bekks, do you have any tutorial how I can do that? :)
[19:47] <bekks> netchip: Doing what?
[19:47] <netchip> bekks, binding a specific service to a specific IP ;-)
[19:47] <netchip> bekks, binding a specific service to a specific IP ;-)
[19:48] <bekks> netchip: Depends on the service.
[19:48] <l057c0d3r> hmm.. maybe i should add myself to the group nopasswordlogin..
[19:48] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip:
[19:48] <os__konversation> Operating system(s):		
[19:48] <os__konversation> Fedora 12 (32 & 64 bit), Ubuntu 10.04 (32 & 64 bit), open SUSE 11.2 (32 & 64 bit
[19:48] <l057c0d3r> it sais auto sufficeient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswordlogin
[19:48] <os__konversation> ActionParsnip: here please : http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010752.asp
[19:48] <schallusion> lucis: the network is up (with eth1). it seems that the wlan is connected to the network but does not get an ip
[19:48] <l057c0d3r> or there is an optional pam_gnome_keyring.so
[19:48] <netchip> bekks, ah, so I can't do that right via Ubuntu?
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/Fax__Multifunctionals/InkJet/PIXMA_MP_series/PIXMA_MP250.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-822898&page=1&type=download
[19:49] <bekks> netchip: You can do it entirely in Ubuntu - every service you runn is a part of Ubuntu.
[19:49] <schallusion> ActionParsnip: this seems a hit
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Os_konversation: says ubuntu and Debian .....
[19:50] <schallusion> ActionParsnip: ACPI(PEGP) defines _DOD but not _DOS
[19:50] <lucis> schallusion, what does ifconfig tell you?
[19:50] <l057c0d3r> k well i think i got it now.. going to see if it worked
[19:50] <netchip> bekks, I mean, configure Ubuntu to let that service run on that IP ;)
[19:50] <l057c0d3r> thanks for pointing me in a good direction IdleOne
[19:51] <schallusion> lucis: ifconfig tells me the interface is up, iwconfig tells me it is connected, the log tries DHCPDISCOVER, but fails
[19:51] <IdleOne> l057c0d3r: hope you sort it out.
[19:51] <bekks> netchip: Yes, you have to configure the service to do so. By default, a service runs on all available interfaces.
[19:51] <bekks> netchip: There is no magic button that does your job. :)
[19:53] <user57809> anyone from toronto here knows a place where one could get his hands on an old computer hardware for cheap? or are craiglist/kijiji the best options in this case?
[19:54] <netchip> bekks, Ah, okay, thank you! :)
[19:54] <lucis> schallusion, try restarting the network service
[19:55] <dyoung2> Hi Just used swapon -s and it shows a partition size of 6236156. What does that mean? Is it in bytes/kb/Mb??
[19:56] <schallusion> lucis: i tried restarting the device and the computer several times ... the wlan itself is also working. another laptop gets the connection
[19:58] <lucis> schallusion, still try /etc/init.d/network restart. have had trouble myself in the past with down/up'ing interfaces and rebooting all not working. yet that restart did the trick
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> User57809: ebay maybe
[20:02] <schallusion> lucis: still no dhcp working
[20:02] <happyface> I changed my cursor theme and the cursor is now switching between a generic black cursor and the new theme
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Happyface: tried logging off and on?
[20:03] <happyface> ActionParsnip, yeah
[20:04] <happyface> ActionParsnip, might just be a defective theme
[20:04] <Dmnchild> Greetings all, curious if anyone is seasoned with freenx? Im getting a 404 error on the apt-get install freenx (seems I got repository in there. using server 12.10) Following the FreeNX guide I get stuck here.
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Happyface: tried a reboot too?
[20:05] <happyface> ActionParsnip, yeah
[20:05] <DarkSim> On Ubuntu 12.04 how do I look how much space there is left on a drive?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: does the repo support Quantal?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: df -h
[20:06] <Dmnchild> ActionParsnip: I think its accessing the repo, per instructions it let me add, update etc. then I get 3 similar errors for different versions when it tries to install
[20:06] <Dmnchild> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: partitions have space, not the drive.  Even if the partition is 100% of the drive, it's still the partition
[20:07] <Dmnchild> and so forth for different cpu
[20:07] <DarkSim> ActionParsnip, I have a extra 100gb ext4 partition which I was supposed to store things on but everything happens to stay on the OS partition
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: you can mount the other partition as a folder and use it that way.
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: can you see why its not found :-)
[20:09] <DarkSim> Yeah I guess, it just that everything I install manually gets installed on the OS Drive anyway
[20:09] <DarkSim> So I guess it's less important to have seperate drives in Linux than it is on Windows
[20:10] <DarkSim> partitions*
[20:10] <lucis> schallusion can you ping the modem? if you cannot it is normal you get no ip.
[20:10] <Dmnchild> Bah so time to downgrade then eh
[20:10] <Frank604> Darksim: or you can simlink the drive
[20:11] <Dmnchild> I only have remote access to this computer so needs to support remote login (less i decide to only command prompt, but i am not on that level yet ;p)
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: it can be advantageous,  separate /home is good, some people like to have other parts of the filesystem on its own partitions
[20:11] <codepython777> I've a remote ubuntu box with 10GB hard drive space (only ssh access with root). How can I backup the hard drive so that I can build a machine locally with 10GB hard drive that is a mirror of the remote box.
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: what are you intending to use freenx to achieve?
[20:11] <DarkSim> Oh ok, still learning Linux (for almost 1 year now)
[20:12] <Dmnchild> GUI remote login using the Nomachine Player
[20:12] <DarkSim> but I guess I'll just wipe it all if it doesn't feel good
[20:12] <DarkSim> it's only 130gb
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: yes but to do what on the remote system?
[20:12] <codepython777> touch: cannot touch `tempfile': Read-only file system -- any ideas on how to debug/fix this?
[20:12] <DarkSim> Sorry, you lost me
[20:12] <bekks> codepython777: sudo mount -o rw,remount ...
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: obviously its remote access, that is what freenx is for
[20:13] <bekks> codepython777: Most likely, there is a reason why it was mounted readonly.
[20:13] <codepython777> bekks: why did this happen?
[20:13] <DarkSim> ActionParsnip, you are talking to the wrong guy
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: what activities will you be doing on the remote system
[20:13] <bekks> codepython777: You have to find it out, e.g. using dmesg
[20:13] <codepython777> bekks: how can we find out whats the problem?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: doh
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: what are you going to do on the remote system
[20:14] <Bruse_> Hello folks
[20:14] <DarkSim> ActionParsnip, I have free 104gb drive space, how can I use that to expand the OS partition?
[20:14] <codepython777> bekks: my dmesg does not even have a word "read" that is realted to read only it seems
[20:14] <Dmnchild> consolidation of services I pay for through other companies… web hosting, seed box being the primary uses.
[20:15] <Bruse_> I am having trouble installing ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 9.2.
[20:15] <Dmnchild> stuff I could do via command prompt only, but still would like the remote login.
[20:15] <bekks> codepython777: Then it might have run out of the ring buffer of dmesg already.
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> Darksim: you could mount it  as a folder and use it as data storage
[20:15] <Bruse_> When I try to boot from the DVD I keep getting stuck with a black screen and a blinking underscore
[20:15] <DarkSim> I understood that, but for the sake of change, let's merge the partitions instead
[20:15] <codepython777> bekks: http://pastebin.com/TdUDAFMD
[20:15] <Bruse_> I have tried multiple DVD's now
[20:16] <Bruse_> Anyone here recognize the problem?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> Dmnchild: if yoy can do it securely via cli, I'd do that. Fewer services listening
[20:16] <bekks> codepython777: Which Ubuntu is it? And is it a virtualized server?
[20:16] <codepython777> bekks: /dev/xvda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) -- ?
[20:16] <codepython777> bekks: it is a virtualized server that i got from another company
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: what video chip do yoy use?
[20:17] <codepython777> bekks: /dev/xvda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) -- I guess /dev/xvda1 is acting up?
[20:17] <bekks> codepython777: I guess it is ro, since mount states it cant write to /etc/mtab
[20:17] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip it is the Nvidia HD4000
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: oh a switchable gpu thing?
[20:19] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip , hmm, not sure. I think it is integrated with the CPU?
[20:19] <Eddispagetti> hallo,  könnte mir jemand helfen?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: add the boot option:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[20:19] <bekks> !de | Eddispagetti
[20:19] <ntalasha> so how do i start firstime on ubuntu
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> Bruse_: you will get issues with that mess. You will need bumblebee to get any sort of support
[20:20] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip I am a bit of a noob. What does that command do and how do I do it? Appreciate your help.
[20:21] <ntalasha> are you talking to me actionparsnip
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> ! Bootoption | Bruse_
[20:21] <raven> hi i have an external hard drive that has broken in the last couple of days
[20:22] <raven> i dont know really what happend but my parents took the usb cable out from the computer when it was off and i was not home.. anyways trying to mount it via ubuntu but fdisk -l and lsusb -vv does not show the disk at all (its an external drive with separate power supply)
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> Ntalasha: not seeing anything in my chat log
[20:22] <raven> anyone knows what the reason could be ?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Raven: try in ##hardware
[20:23] <Bruse_> ActionParsnip ubottu Ok, thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
[20:23] <bekks> raven: Broken harddisk, broken USB case, broken power supply.
[20:23] <raven> bekks i tried to change usb cable still the same
[20:23] <codepython777> bekks: if its read only, is there a way to create a backup of that drive so that i can try to boot from that drive?
[20:23] <codepython777> or is that too crazy to try
[20:24] <malkauns> how do i get ccsm in 12.10 to remember my settings like keybindings and command shortkeys?
[20:24] <bekks> codepython777: Sure, just copy the data to another filesystem.
[20:24] <ntalasha> hey am using a generic ubuntu linux combination can someone help me understand,i need am failing to load the google chrome browser
[20:24] <raven> the power supply nah dont think so, the LED on the drive flashes white
[20:28] <codepython777> bekks: how do i copy? rsync? I'd like to create a replica of the original hard drive.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> Maljauns: ask in #compiz too. I'm pretty sure ccsm isn't to be used now. It causes problems
[20:29] <bekks> codepython777: then use a livecd and clone the disk using dd or clonezilla
[20:29] <malkauns> hmm
[20:30] <keelG> Hi guys - I have this small cosmetic issue with ubuntu, any suggestions will be much appreciated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577838/
[20:31] <gnom3> hi
[20:32] <dr_willis> moo!
[20:32] <keelG> moomoo
[20:32] <Fuzolan> The Message "Your BIOS is broken; DMA routed to ISOCH DMAR unit but no TLB space." should only lead to a performace drop or I'm wrong?
[20:33] <Dmnchild> ActionParsnip: Hm, installing. so far better then the 12.10 lol. thanks. Now perhaps Ill get lucky and make it through setup without snags
[20:34] <Nahita> Hey guys, do any one know any dedicated ubuntu server channel?
[20:34] <ravur> how to use overlayfs as root? Do I need Ubuntu 12.10, or 12.04 is enough?
[20:34] <Guest33032> no
[20:34] <phunyguy> Nahita, #ubuntu-server
[20:35] <Nahita> phunyguy: thnx
[20:35] <poiut> 1111
[20:36] <codepython777> bekks: Is it safe to try ? sudo touch /forcefsck ?
[20:36] <codepython777> bekks:  as far as copying is concerned. I only have ssh access, so livecd is out
[20:37] <codepython777> bekks: wont even let me do that : touch: cannot touch `/forcefsck': Read-only file system
[20:37] <schallusion> lucis: thx for help ..
[20:37] <schallusion> by
[20:38] <aaamourao> Hey, someone knows how to install GRUB in a PC with a UEFIbooting?
[20:39] <lucis> schallusion you figured it out?
[20:39] <bekks> codepython777: "/touch forcefsck" is not part of booting a livecd and running fsck -f
[20:40] <codepython777> bekks: that was for trying to get the filesystem to recover from read only
[20:40] <wbf> does anyone know how to get a netgear N150 working in ubuntu?
[20:40] <OerHeks> !uefi | aaamourao
[20:42] <wbf> again, does anyone know how to get a netgear N150 working in ubuntu?
[20:47] <Vivekanada> hello everyone. I google hangout my connection keeps dropping
[20:47] <Vivekanada> like every few seconds
[20:47] <Vivekanada> how do I trouble shoot?
[20:50] <boriseto> One noobish question. Can somebody point me to a repository like getdeb/playdeb, since those are discontinued?
[20:50] <MartynKeigher> github?
[20:51] <lauratika> is there a way to move file between folders without copying them?
[20:51] <boriseto> lauratika, with cut or holding shift while drag n drop.
[20:52] <xangua> !ppa | boriseto
[20:52] <boriseto> xangua, ubottu , yeap, thank you
[20:53] <zykes-> how can I debug these ? "Jan 27 13:19:56 svc02 kernel: [175799.587970] init: ceilometer-api main process (31797) terminated with status 2" ?
[20:54] <lauratika> no drag n' drop option...
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Vivekanada: does the whole web connection drop too?
[20:54] <wbf> Action! good to see you!
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: thanks :)
[20:54] <wbf> ActionParsnip: do you know how to get a belkin n150 working on linux?
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: which wifi chip does it use?
[20:55] <Devaki> is anyone using MonoDevelop here ?
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: isn't a 'belkin n150' a router?
[20:56] <wbf> ActionParsnip: RTL8188CUS
[20:56] <wbf> ActionParsnip: oops meant netgear XD
[20:56] <dr_willis> Laurenceb: hold ctrl as you drag and drop'.
[20:57] <wbf> ActionParsnip: sorry for the confusion
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: http://thatguruguy.wordpress.com/2012/09/04/working-rtl8188cus-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[20:58] <_helios_> Hey for some reason libmp3lame is missing on Xubuntu how can I get it back?
[20:59] <msev> hi guys, is it normal that firefox takes 5-7seconds to start up in ubuntu 12.10?
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Msev: cold start, yes
[20:59] <daze> depends on your hardware :)
[20:59] <ravur> how to make root filesystem on overlayfs?
[20:59] <wbf> ActionParsnip: how would I get all the packages and manually install them to compile it? b/c I have no internet access on that ubuntu desktop
[20:59] <dr_willis> ! Find libmp3lame
[21:00] <dr_willis> !Find libmp3lame
[21:00] <msev> laptop: 2.2ghz dualcore , 2gb ram, nvidia 8600m gt 256mb,..lol ancient hardware
[21:01] <xangua> msev: if you don't want it send it to me :)
[21:02] <arun> hey guys i am unable to install tar.bz2 of filezilla
[21:02] <arun> help me
[21:02] <msev> xangua haha
[21:02] <msev> :)
[21:02] <_helios_> dr_willis, I found it, I forgot to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras on this machine lol
[21:02] <msev> I need it still :)
[21:03] <xangua> arun: sudo apt-get install filezilla ; it's already on repository
[21:03] <arun> hey can't i install from .tar.bz2?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Arun: nautilus can connect to anything Filezilla can
[21:04] <kiraslaugh> what is the best way to set up vnc, like the most secure way?
[21:04] <msev> is there some command to list all installed software in the terminal?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | kiraslaugh
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Kiraslaugh::what are you wanting to do on the remote system via the VNC?
[21:05] <Phosphate> Anyone have experience with 13.04 on a Nexus 7?
[21:05] <Dmnchild> FreeNX is kicking my arse atm :( service is running now, seems to want to connect and comes up black screen. boo. Im determined to figure it out though ;p
[21:06] <wbf> ActionParsnip: I said How would i manually actually download all the packages required in order to finish the tutorial?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Phosphate: #ubuntu+1 for raring support til release day
[21:06] <kiraslaugh> well i was actually just needing it to start VMs that i control remotely for school
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: wired connection
[21:06] <Phosphate> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[21:06] <wbf> ActionParsnip: well how would I do that with a windows laptop a flash drive and the device?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Kiraslaugh: what do you virtulize with?
[21:07] <kiraslaugh> virtualbox
[21:07] <chechodan> hello everyone
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: grab what it needs online I guess. Using a wired link will be far far easier
[21:07] <chechodan> i have a question for you
[21:07] <arun> hey guys my smartcam is not working please help
[21:08] <chechodan> how redimension my swap from 2gb to 4gb encrypted
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Kiraslaugh: could try http://code.google.com/p/phpvirtualbox/
[21:09] <chechodan> how this work?
[21:09] <msev> guys have fun!
[21:09] <msev> gotta go
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Chchodan: ask support questions
[21:09] <chechodan> where
[21:09] <chechodan> thank you
[21:09] <malkauns> ActionParsnip, looks like i had to change the backend in ccsm to flat-file config
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Chechodan: where you are typing now, type you question
[21:10] <chechodan> ok :) my question is: how redimension my swap from 2gb to 4gb encryoted
[21:11] <chechodan> encrypted
[21:11] <wbf> ActionParsnip: How do I find out the name of the package to compile the driver?
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: you could study the text in the script
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: is the USB wifi being used in a laptop?
[21:13] <wbf> ActionParsnip: there's no package mentioned in the script
[21:13] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Arun: do you see yourself in cheese?
[21:13] <arun> ????????????????
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Wbf: is it a laptop?
[21:14] <arun> hey guys help me yaaaaaaar
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Arun: you seem to have ueed characters my client cannot show
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <FloodBot1> arun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:14] <arun> hey hey my smartcam is not working guys help me
[21:14] <arun> hey
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Arun: great way to get banned and ignored. Don't vdo that,
[21:15] <arun> ok
[21:15] <arun> hey but guys help me
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Arun: do you see yourself in cheese?
[21:15] <arun> ?
[21:15] <arun> u mean
[21:15] <arun> hey which is fastest ubuntu download site?
[21:16] <dr_willis> torrents i find fsstest
[21:16] <wbf> ActionParsnip: the build link is broken :O
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Arun: install and run it, it is a program. Try saying "I don't know what you mean" rather than "?????" Which is completely meaningless
[21:16] <BluesKaj> arun, doenload for ubuntu or applications ?
[21:17] <arun> apps
[21:17] <BluesKaj> arun , the packager manager
[21:17] <arun> ok thanks for ur kind info
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Arun: the fastest download will change with load and location,  there is no single fastest or nobody would use any other.  But then it would be the slowest due to traffic
[21:18] <wbf> ActionParsnip: as in /lib/modules/3.0.8+/build is broken
[21:18] <arun> oh thanks
[21:19] <arun> guys but pops some error while loading smartcam
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Arun: you haven't answered my question
[21:20] <arun> yes whats your question?
[21:20] <bennypr0fane> hello, I installed a GUI application (Canon scanner software "Scangear MP") ) in 12.04 (Unity) but it does not show in the menu. When I type its name in dashboard there are no results. I can start it from terminal though, so it's installed. How can I make it availalble in the menu?
[21:20] <wbf> ActionParsnip: now build is missing.
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> Arun: 3rd time now: do you see yourself in cheese?
[21:20] <arun> no
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Arun: ok, run:  lsusb     use the 8 character hex I'd to find guides
[21:22] <arun> lsusb
[21:22] <chechodan> http://apuntes-para-no-olvidar.blogspot.com.ar/2011/09/ampliar-memoria-swap-en-ubuntu.html
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Arun: ib a terminal
[21:22] <Muelli> bennypr0fane: you have to put a .desktop file in the correct directory. That should bootstrap you to get you going.
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> In*
[21:22] <arun> hey it doesn't work in terminal aslso
[21:22] <arun> asks for packages
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> Arun: LSUSB   in lower case
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> Arun:   what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue     too please
[21:23] <Dmnchild> Curious: No monitor attached to server, would this make it so no /.Xauthority is created? Seems I am stuck on this with FreeNX
[21:24] <Dmnchild> FreeNX is trying to connect now, and from what I am reading my problem is coming from this file that does not exist
[21:26] <arun> lsusb: Bus 003 Device 004: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]
[21:26] <arun> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 15d9:0a4c Trust International B.V. USB+PS/2 Optical Mouse
[21:26] <arun> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:26] <arun> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[21:26] <arun> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:26] <arun> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[21:26] <FloodBot1> arun: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> Arun: we don't need that, you do
[21:27] <arun> and for cat/etc/issue:
[21:27] <arun> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Arun: imagine if evenn5 people pasted like that? Think about it..... how useless the channel would be?
[21:28] <ClientAlive> I have a desktop with 12.04 server and gnome 3 on it and just got a new lappy. I want to put 12.04 desktop (not server) on the lappy but I also want to install all the same programs on it that are on the desktop (with the exception of only a couple things). Is there an easy automated way to do this once I've installed 12.04 destktop on the lappy?
[21:28] <jasunto> anyone familiar with the rsyslogd on 12.10?
[21:28] <jasunto> or should i say rsyslog
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> ! Clone | clientalive
[21:29] <jasunto> anyone know how to enable syslog server in 12.10, more specifically server version
[21:29] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: awesome. And I assume that all I would need to do is edit that file to delete the entries for the apps I don't want?
[21:30] <markprime> anyone familiar with binwalk?
[21:30] <iceroot> !anyone | markprime
[21:30] <arun> hey i didn't paste that
[21:30] <arun> all
[21:30] <arun>  i just copied the whole output man
[21:31] <jasunto> how do you enable syslog server in 12.10 server?
[21:31] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: Hey thx man. That really was a stupid question. I know better. Peace  :)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Clientalive: absolutely
[21:32] <keelG> Hi guys - I have this issue with Ubuntus Ambiance and Radiance theme - any suggestions will be much appreciated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1577838/
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Jasunto: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-remote-syslog-logging-on-debian-and-ubuntu/
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Jasunto: took me about 15 seconds to find......
[21:33] <cristian_c> Hi
[21:33] <jasunto> me too, except 12.10 is using rsyslog
[21:33] <cristian_c> What command must I use from terminal to make the Find box appeared in chromium?
[21:33] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[21:33] <arun> hey action help me man where are u
[21:33] <jasunto> and i dont see the lines that are mentioned in those old articles
[21:33] <yeats> cristian_c: Ctrl-F?
[21:33] <cristian_c> yeats, Ctrl+F opens xterm
[21:34] <markprime> having trouble making binwalk on 11.10 just wondered if anyone was familiar with it, any suggestions
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, then you're doing it wrong - ctrl+f is the keyboard shortcut for find in chromium
[21:34] <yeats> cristian_c: wait - I'm not sure I understand - you want to invoke the Find box in Chromium from the command lin?
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> if something's intercepting that and running xterm instead...
[21:34] <jasunto> and as i thought, opening said file from pasted guide results in blank page meaning that file doesnt exist
[21:35] <jasunto> rephrase: How do you configure syslog server using 12.10 rsyslog?
[21:35] <cristian_c> yeats, yes
[21:36] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, but f I press Ctrl+F an xterm window appears :(
[21:36] <yeats> cristian_c: okay - then I have no idea, sorry
[21:36] <cristian_c> yeats, ok
[21:37] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: why do you want to do that?
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, whcih means something somewhere has ctrl+f as a keyboard shortcut to open xterm, and is overruling chromium's shortcut
[21:37] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, you need to figure out what and disable that
[21:37]  * TheLordOfTime uses ttys for terminal, so he can't help much.
[21:37] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, maybe :)
[21:37] <_helios_> TheLordOfTime, uses the 133t ctrl-alt-f1 f2 f3 etc... lol
[21:38] <jasunto> guessed around and found uncommenting # provides UDP syslog reception $ModLoad imudp $UDPServerRun 514 works for udp
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, no "maybe" there, that's a definite cause of such a problem.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> cristian_c, in all the ubuntu releases, ctrl +f is NOT a shortcut to open xterm.
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> by default at least
[21:38] <cristian_c> ok
[21:38] <cristian_c> TheLordOfTime, I've not set any shortcut for xterm
[21:39] <VlanX> how do i clear arp cache on ubuntu?
[21:39] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: lsb_release -sd
[21:39] <arun> hey how to allow my software to use bluetooth software
[21:39] <ClientAlive> Now I have one other question tied to my first question: 12.04 desktop will surely come (by default) with some packages I don't want on there. Is there a convenient way to gather a list of stuff to remove and then do so in an automated fashion (like the command I was given for repicating the packages from my desktop machine to the lappy)
[21:39] <ClientAlive> ??
[21:40] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[21:40] <jrib> ClientAlive: apt-get remove package1 package2 ...
[21:40] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: are you using unity?
[21:40] <_helios_> ClientAlive, I think apt-get autoremove package1 package2 etc
[21:41] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, no
[21:41] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: what desktop environment are you using?
[21:41] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, lxde
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Cristian_c: CTRL + ALT + T   opens a gnome-terminal
[21:42] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: look for your keyboard shortcuts settings
[21:42] <skp1> can someone help me? everytime i set my computer to suspend after one hour, the power options reset to zero, i think when i logoff or reboot
[21:42] <skp1> reset to do nothing i mean
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Cristian_c: also works in other DEs and opens their terminals too
[21:42] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, I don't find them
[21:42] <ClientAlive> jrib: helio: what about something more, errr... automated than searching for every package I don't want on there? Is it conceivable I could run << aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages  >> on the newly installed o/s on the lappy, diff the two files (the lappy one and the desktop machine one). Then review and edit that diffed file. When satisfied, is there a way to feed that fill in for the purpose
[21:42] <ClientAlive> of removing (not installing)?
[21:42] <_helios_> skp1, Are you plugged into a wall?
[21:43] <Phonequer2> Why does bzr dh-make shout about no "whoami" being set, and then, in the created package, sets everything to root@localhost -- while I've had set the whoami to meaningful values?
[21:43] <ClientAlive> problem: don't know the commands for diff or feeding the file in to remove the stuff.
[21:43] <ThinkT510> cristian_c: then you likely are not looking hard enough
[21:43] <skp1> _helios_: yes, it's a desktop
[21:43] <jrib> ClientAlive: how can your preferences be automated?  It's your preference as to whether or not you want a package
[21:43] <ClientAlive> jrib: hang on I will show you something
[21:44] <_helios_> skp1, that's weird, I don't use suspend though because it's known to cause issues.
[21:44] <blargg> I'm not getting any of the media keys to work. They're enabled, in particular in dconf-editor org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys. xev reports that they are showing up as media keys (e.g. KeyPress event [...] keycode 67 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[21:44] <cristian_c> ThinkT510, ok
[21:44] <arun> hey guys hhhhhhhhhhellllllllppppppppp
[21:44] <Laxis> What do you need help with arun?
[21:44] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip gave me this a moment ago. It is for installing not removing. Can I do what I was asking in connection with it; but, in the end. for removal rather than installation?
[21:45] <ClientAlive> ! Clone | clientalive
[21:45] <arun> i cannot configure smartcam man
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Arun: did one of the lines from lsusb not identify the device?
[21:46] <andy321> help please with USB serial port adapter, can no see ttyUSBS0 connected, triend minicom with pins 2 and 3 shorted but nothing appears on screen, have chmod to 666 and made user added to dialout group, is there anything else to do?
[21:46] <ClientAlive> jrib: this -> "<ubottu> (In the future, please use a private message to investigate) To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this may cause
[21:46] <ClientAlive> problems with multiarch before 12.10)"
[21:46] <jrib> ClientAlive: yes?
[21:46] <arun> yes it did
[21:46] <blargg> Anyone got any ideas about my media key problem?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Arun: did you search for the 8 character hex I'd?
[21:46] <ClientAlive> jrib: so to reverse the process with a diff and a review/edit thrown in the middle
[21:46] <ClientAlive> commands to do so?
[21:47] <arun> Bus 003 Device 004: ID 03f0:171d Hewlett-Packard Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045]
[21:47] <arun> this is all i got
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Arun: thats a Bluetooth device,  not a webcam.
[21:48] <blargg> I'm not getting any of the media keys to work. They're enabled, in particular in dconf-editor org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys. xev reports that they are showing up as media keys (e.g. KeyPress event [...] keycode 67 (keysym 0x1008ff11, XF86AudioLowerVolume)
[21:48] <spacecase> for some reason cinnamon is using a ridiculous amount of CPU.  Upwards of 50-60%
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Spadecase: cinnamon isn't supported here
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> Spacecase: ^
[21:49] <arun> hey man don't u know smartcam ?
[21:49] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: Surely you know the commands for the second part? Do you?
[21:49] <arun> it is a software to virtualize a phone as webcam
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Clientalive: seconds
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> Clientalive: second part of what?
[21:50] <jrib> ClientAlive: This is my understanding of your situation: you have a new install.  You want to remove packages.  Yes?
[21:51] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I can scroll up, copy and past again if you like
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Arun: sorry, i'm not knowledgeable of every software ever
[21:51] <orionar> hello, im a noob, how do you cd to a file location in terminal
[21:51] <arun> ok
[21:51] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: just let me know the best way
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Arun: think before you type
[21:51] <arun> than teach me how to allow a software to use bluetooth
[21:52] <orionar> can someone help me? i need to learn how to cd to a file location in terminal
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Arun: what phone do you have?
[21:52] <_helios_> orionar, you type cd path/path
[21:52] <arun> n72
[21:52] <orionar> what do i put in path/path, how do i find the filepath?
[21:52] <_helios_> orionar, type ls
[21:52] <orionar> 1s
[21:52] <_helios_> orionar, ls
[21:53] <ClientAlive> jrib: yes. I want an (almost) exact duplicate of the desktop machine on the lappy with these importand differences - (not appache2), not gnome 3 but rather unity (ubuntu's desktop release).. AND eclipse will be installed sparately.
[21:53] <_helios_> orionar, LS lower case
[21:53] <orionar> ok thank you, ill try
[21:53] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: I don't know what seconds means
[21:53] <_helios_> orionar, remember that the filesystem is CASE SENSATIVE
[21:53] <ClientAlive> not in the context I see you use it anyway
[21:53] <jrib> ClientAlive: why are there two machines now?  You're cloning the package installation from one machine to another and want to modify it?
[21:54] <_helios_> orionar, so if a folder says MyStuff make sure you type it cd MyStuff
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Clientalive: was a typo
[21:54] <orionar> ok thank you, i just type the location, and then the file name?
[21:54] <andy321> help please with USB serial port adapter, I can see ttyUSBS0 connected, tried minicom with pins 2 and 3 shorted but nothing appears on screen, have chmod ttyUSBS0 to 666 and checked ttyUSBS0 is owned by dialout group, is there anything else to do?
[21:55] <ClientAlive> jrib: it's 2 things going on: (1) clone the packages from the desktop machine onto the laptop machine. (2) Remove 12.04 default packages (on the lapptop install) that are not currently found on the desktop machine.
[21:55] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: ok
[21:55] <ClientAlive> :O
[21:56] <Chuckqt> I'm looking for some help with ubuntu 12.12 missing unity and launcher bar
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Arun: discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nseries-and-Symbian-Smartphones/n82-as-webcam-on-linux/td-p/370062
[21:57] <arun> thanks
[21:57] <ClientAlive> jrib: So the idea I thought may work is to (1) isolate the packages that get installed on the lappy wich are not found on the desktop machine. (2) feed that list into aptitude for removal as apposed to installation.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: what video chip do you use?
[21:57] <Chuckqt> nvida gts
[21:57] <Chuckqt> 450
[21:57] <jrib> ClientAlive: then you can either create another aptitude command that searches for uninstalled packages or just use dpkg --get-selections (with dpkg --get-selections though you lose the fact that with the aptitude command you didn't end up with dependencies as manually installed packages)
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: did you install nvidia-current package?
[21:58] <ClientAlive> jrib: I wondered if diffing the list of installed packages that cones from the desktop machine with the list that comes from the lappy would genarate that.
[21:58] <jrib> ClientAlive: sure, you can do what you suggest too.  Just run the aptitude command on your laptop and then find the difference in the file (man comm)
[21:59] <Chuckqt> yea, I did on my last reinstall and I did updates thru software updater and on the reboot all I see is a blank screen
[21:59] <ClientAlive> jrib: ok, but the problem is I have never used diff (at least not successfully) and I don't know commands to do these actions.
[21:59] <ClientAlive> :)
[21:59] <jrib> ClientAlive: I suggest you use comm for this, not diff
[21:59] <ClientAlive> ok
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: install xfce4 too, it doesn't need compositing to run. It'll give a usable desktop
[22:00] <heywood> what's the name of the control panel executable where you can set the power settings (screensaver lock timeout, etc.)?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: is the system a laptop?
[22:00] <ClientAlive> jrib: thx for your help sir. Do I now need to study how to use this package (comm) so that I'll have the command I need to run?
[22:00] <Chuckqt> no it's a desktop I built several years ago
[22:01] <Chuckqt> I was running an RC of windows 8 when it expired and I thought I would give ubuntu a try
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: try running: nvidia-xconfig     in root recovery console
[22:01] <Chuckqt> of course this is my first attempt
[22:02] <minoo> how can i build a 32bit binary package on a amd64 workstation which is then installable via <package-name>:i386 ?
[22:02] <Rikstation> seem to have forgot my password, is there any way to recover
[22:02] <Rikstation> or renew
[22:02] <OerHeks> !lostpassword
[22:02] <jrib> ClientAlive: it's very straightforward, read its man page
[22:02] <Chuckqt> is this a problem with nvidia cards only?
[22:02] <zygoptera> minoo >> you would at least need to install the 32 bit sources
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Rikstation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[22:03] <Rikstation> thank you ActionParsnip & OerHeks
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Chuckqt, which nvidia card ?
[22:04] <minoo> zygoptera: i have 32 bit binary here, its a upstream closed source thingy. I already builded a amd64 package with it, but dh_shlibdeps is not setting the correct dependencies
[22:04] <Chuckqt> gts450
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Chuckqt: if your monitor isn't playing right,  you can use an xorg.conf file to make it work. You will have problems if you use an Intel CPU with Ivy/Sandybridge
[22:05] <Chuckqt> I've installed the os as a 32bit and 64bit I was able to get a running system when I installed 12.4  32 bit but had to mess around and upgrade to the 64 bit
[22:05] <minoo> zygoptera: i already figured out all the 32bit packages which are needed for it, i just cant find a tutorial for building packages which are :i386
[22:06] <Chuckqt> some times I wish I could just leave thing alone
[22:06] <zygoptera> minoo >> isn't it a gcc option for which platform you are compiling for?
[22:08] <jeeves_moss> how can I recover the pictures from an SD card?  I've tried to use testdisk, and it can't see the partition
[22:08] <Chuckqt> well, thanks for the suggestions, I'm all set to complete a reinstall, so wish me luck
[22:08] <minoo> zygoptera: i'm not compiling at all, its already compiled bin
[22:09] <BluesKaj> Chuckqt, you may need the swatx ppa for the correct driver for the gts450,  http://howtofindsolution.blogspot.ca/2012/10/install-and-configure-latest-nvidia.html
[22:10] <BluesKaj> oops, too late
[22:10] <dr_willis> jeeves_moss:  you could try ddrescue to image the card to a file. then try to recover from the file with various tools also.
[22:12] <Justice> so is there a reason unity runs like crap when i disable desktop icons in dconf-editor ?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Jeeves_moss: try foremost. Your backups will be a far better method
[22:12] <erupter> I've got reading a bit on launchpad, but I'm still fuzzy over what are the needed steps to create a ppa. what else can I read to get a clear picture on what goes where?
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Erupter: try in #launchpad
[22:13] <erupter> uh...
[22:13] <erupter> everything has a channel nowadays...
[22:13] <erupter> sometimes I'll find myself in #blowingmynose :p
[22:13] <erupter> ok thanks, going over there
[22:15] <ploot> howdy
[22:16] <Justice> how do i stop the annoying popups of "program failure report" ?
[22:16] <ploot> i'm havng trouble upgradiing ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 on a system that two OS
[22:16] <ClientAlive> can gnome shell be just flat out installed on top of a fresh 12.04 desktop install (with unity)? Will it break something or will I just end up with the choice to use gnome3 or unity?
[22:16] <ploot> it goes to grub_rescue
[22:16] <ploot> i've dealt with it before but problem is i can set the linux kernal
[22:16] <ploot> i can browse and see it
[22:16] <winnie^> hi, i stumble upon a "bug" src: http://trick77.com/2012/12/27/haproxy-and-real-ip-addresses-in-apache2-using-the-rpaf-module/ i tried it out and now everything is working fine
[22:16] <dr_willis> I thought you can do that ClientAlive
[22:16] <ploot> but if i try to set it I get "not an assignment"
[22:17] <crazybrain> My Ubuntu 12.10 stopped working
[22:17] <winnie^> this problem with <IfModule mod_rpaf.c> in rpaf.conf took me hours of nerve wrecking try and error sessions
[22:17] <crazybrain> It freezes in the loading process
[22:17] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: ok, I'll give er' a try. Worse come to worse I can reinstall  :)
[22:17] <ClientAlive> thx
[22:17] <crazybrain> Is there any repair disc or tool that i can apply??
[22:17] <dr_willis> Justice:  i belive thats called 'apport' or appreport'  theres several ways to disable it. but i dont recall how.  i looked up how on askubuntu.com ;)
[22:18] <crazybrain> I am not even able to use root as it freezes
[22:18] <dr_willis> crazybrain:  can you ssh in? perhaps check logs to see whats going on
[22:21] <crazybrain> dr_willis: how can i do that?
[22:21] <dr_willis> ssh ip.of.server   from a 2nd machine on the lan.. :) if you got ssh server installed
[22:21] <dr_willis> never mind.. ;P
[22:22] <TomodachiRadio> Hey everyone!
[22:22] <snql> hi
[22:22] <crazybrain> dr_willis: i am not able to login
[22:23] <crazybrain> dr_willis: how can i ssh in?
[22:23] <TomodachiRadio> Does any1 from Brazil?
[22:23] <dr_willis> ssh ip.of.server   from a 2nd machine on the lan.. :) if you got ssh server installed
[22:23] <BluesKaj> !br
[22:23] <danlamanna> hey guys, for some reason my default terminal directory is / - same with my emacs - it used to be ~ though, any ideas?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> TomodachiRadio,^
[22:24] <TomodachiRadio> Thanx!
[22:25] <iceroot> danlamanna: what is the output of "whoami" and "echo $HOME"
[22:25] <danlamanna> iceroot: whoami is dan, and $HOME is /home/dan
[22:26] <dr_willis> i wonder if theres a gnome-terminal profile setting that defines the initial directory
[22:26] <danlamanna> i'm actually wondering now, if anything in my https://github.com/danlamanna/Bash-Emacs-Configs/blob/master/.bashrc
[22:26] <dr_willis> or if theres somthing in your .bashrc or .profile cd-ing to someplace
[22:26] <ClientAlive> Is there a release of ubuntu 12.04 which is similar in functinoality to android or win 8 (like what you would find on a net book)? In which the user interface functions similarly?
[22:27] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  lubuntu and kubuntu have  a netbook-interface option..  but ive not used them
[22:27] <dr_willis> i like the normal lubuntu desktop ;)
[22:28] <crazybrain> dr_willis: is there any repair tool for Ubuntu 12.10?
[22:28] <dr_willis> crazybrain:  the grub recovery menu item has a few features. but no idea what all it can fix.
[22:28] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I see. thx
[22:29] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  there is a way to get chromeos on top of ubuntu :)
[22:30] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I'll have to check that out. Not familiar with chrome  :)
[22:30] <danlamanna> weird, i've commented out all of .bashrc and .profile and still occurring
[22:30] <dr_willis> danlamanna:  those only get used by the login shell  i belive.
[22:31] <dr_willis> or was i thinking of another file. ;() i get confused ;)
[22:31] <dr_willis> if your initial login did some cd /  - then it may be the root cause.
[22:32] <dr_willis> ive seen cases where you for example use 'startx' from /media/ and everything wanted to start with /media/ as its initial directory
[22:32] <danlamanna> hmm
[22:32] <snql> danlamanna test
[22:32] <snql> sorry
[22:32] <ploot> anyone have experience with upgrade / install issue where I have win7 & ubun12.04 dual booting
[22:33] <ploot> then i upgraded to ubuntu12.10
[22:33] <ploot> and now i get stuck when i try to boot
[22:33] <ploot> and it puts me at grub rescue prompt
[22:33] <ploot> not a big deal
[22:33] <ploot> just that i use the tutorial using the SET command
[22:33] <ploot> set root, set prefix works fine
[22:34] <ploot> set kernel does not
[22:34] <ploot> but i can see the files / directories are there
[22:34] <dr_willis> id just use a live cd and the boot-repair tool and  see if it corrects things
[22:34] <ploot> ok thanks dr_willis
[22:34] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[22:35] <ploot> you're saying I should download ubuntu 12.10 and burn it to a disk and then boot to the disk?
[22:35] <dr_willis> there is a custom made boot-repair cd mentioned on the wiki pages also.
[22:35] <dr_willis> you could try to fix with a 12.04 live cd also if you had one
[22:35] <ploot> gotcha
[22:35] <ploot> thanks much
[22:36] <ploot> ubottu, thanks. that's where I went first and followed the instructions to no avail
[22:36] <drag0nius> anyone knows which of geforce 600 series are broken for multi-monitor in ubuntu?
[22:36] <ploot> lol
[22:37] <dr_willis> nap time for me.. bbl
[22:40] <mathi> hi
[22:40] <mathi> hi, I edited crontab with crontab -e, now are the crontabs automatically launch ?
[22:41] <mathi> *ed
[22:41] <blsh0p> i have a question
[22:41] <blsh0p> will dual booting ubuntu on a mac make it slow in the long run?
[22:41] <genoobie> hey all
[22:41] <IdleOne> no
[22:41] <genoobie> I just installed xubuntu and I am trying to use additional drivers to install the wireless card
[22:42] <genoobie> but it says "downloading and installing driver" for like 10 minutes now
[22:42] <genoobie> how can I tell if it is doing anything
[22:44] <genoobie> any tips?
[22:45] <genoobie> there used to be a lot of traffic on this channel...
[22:46] <drag0nius> what is some GPU confirmed working with multiple monitors under ~170 euros?
[22:46] <daftykins> genoobie: if by traffic you mean peeps demanding help, it comes and goes :>
[22:46] <daftykins> drag0nius: where multplie = 2 ?
[22:46] <sleekm> hi. i installed ubuntu net install and I do not have gdm or lightdm etc. when the computer boots i have to type startx everytime. how can i get it to automatically log me in this way without having to download a login manager. it is only a single user laptop
[22:46] <sleekm> ?
[22:47] <drag0nius> 2 is good, 3 would be best (in future)
[22:47] <drag0nius> i've geforce 560 ti right now, but it's barely starting on 2 monitors
[22:47] <genoobie> daftykins, just making an observation that's all
[22:48] <daftykins> drag0nius: barely starting?
[22:48] <drag0nius> main screen is working pretty good
[22:48] <drag0nius> but its even hard to describe what happens to second ;d
[22:48] <genoobie> anyhow, I'm not sure how to tell if a tool is running or it's "hung"
[22:48] <drag0nius> sometimes its all grey, sometimes all white, sometimes both go off
[22:49] <daftykins> genoobie: use the system monitor to see if the processor load is high
[22:49] <drag0nius> mouse cursor was some weird shape (dont remember which)
[22:49] <genoobie> ok
[22:49] <drag0nius> its common problem with my gpu model
[22:50] <genoobie> daftykins, does not appear to be high.  Task manager is the highest usage
[22:50] <genoobie> however, jockey-gtk is using 1-3%
[22:50] <genoobie> that's the window opened and referring to the "additional driver"
[22:51] <sleekm> hi. i installed ubuntu net install and I do not have gdm or lightdm etc. when the computer boots i have to type startx everytime. how can i get it to automatically log me in this way without having to download a login manager. it is only a single user laptop?
[22:51] <daftykins> genoobie: ah, it silently downloads when you enable drivers so it might be taking time
[22:51] <genoobie> daftykins, >10 mins?
[22:52] <genoobie> any way to check if it is "downloading"?
[22:52] <genoobie> there are a lot of processes
[22:52] <genoobie> that's strange
[22:52] <usr13_> sleekm: That's the way I use my laptop, (I start the GUI manually).
[22:52] <genoobie> there's not really much running
[22:52] <daftykins> genoobie: just kill it and start again then
[22:53] <daftykins> drag0nius: are you using the nvidia driver?
[22:53] <genoobie> from the "task manager" window?
[22:54] <drag0nius> with nvidia driver it didnt even launch gui
[22:54] <genoobie> hmm, I think as soon as lubuntu downloads I am going to try it
[22:54] <drag0nius> and its exactly the same problem for couple ubuntu releases
[22:54] <kokomura> j
[22:54] <genoobie> lubuntu and xubuntu are going to have the same hardware support, correct?
[22:55] <saltmiser> yes
[22:55] <saltmiser> it's the same underlying system
[22:56] <sleekm> usr13_: i understand i am just giving this laptop to my 10 year old niece so wanted it to login auto without a gui. it only has 512mb ram so loading it down with games and just wanted it as slim as possible
[22:56] <sleekm> usr13_: my bad for answering so late
[22:57] <usr13> sleekm: I think  ~/.config/autostart - which is profile (or user), is still honored.
[22:58] <sleekm> usr13_: lol meant to say i want it to login auto into gui. lol
[22:58] <sleekm> ok i will open the file and check out
[23:00] <sleekm> usr13:
[23:00] <sleekm> usr13: this is how the autostart is
[23:00] <sleekm> @lxpanel --profile LXDE @pcmanfm --desktop --profile LXDE @/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[23:01] <genoobie> ugh
[23:01] <sleekm> what should i add to auto login to x then without having to login to the black screen prompt first
[23:01] <genoobie> I am pretty sure this thing is "hung" or "hanged"
[23:02] <genoobie> hey all
[23:02] <sleekm> another issue i have is that i need to know what is needed from synaptic for the gnome keyring. i can start synaptic from terminal with password but the gui will not take the password
[23:02] <sleekm> sup genoobie
[23:02] <genoobie> new to this thing, and coming from a winxp world
[23:02] <genoobie> 120 processes seems like a lot
[23:03] <sleekm> genoobie: xp ran more u couldnt see
[23:03] <genoobie> I am running xubuntu which is purported to be fast
[23:03] <genoobie> but it is dragging and hanging
[23:03] <genoobie> not sure why though...
[23:03] <sleekm> genoobie: lubuntu is quicker if u want minimal approach
[23:03] <genoobie> yeah, I use lubuntu on another laptop and it seems ok
[23:03] <genoobie> I mean I like it because it is pretty fast
[23:03] <usr13> sleekm: A file with something like Exec=/usr/bin/startx in it.
[23:04] <genoobie> should I just install lubuntu or try and slim down xubuntu
[23:04] <usr13> sleekm: or Exec=/usr/bin/startxfce4
[23:04] <usr13> sleekm: or Exec=/usr/bin/startlxde
[23:05] <usr13> sleekm: In other words, cut to the chase and start the DE
[23:08] <w0rm-_x> I have Java installed by default, it is an old version, how do I remove it?
[23:14] <fadax> hi
[23:15] <saltmiser> yo
[23:16] <fadax> how do i figure out what packages to install with apt-get, for example if I know I need the c++ library xmlrpc_client how can I find out what package that's in?
[23:16] <saltmiser> packages.ubuntu.org I believe you can browse
[23:16] <saltmiser> unless you want to know the exact apt-get/dpkg command to tell you, that I don't know
[23:18] <sect0r> Hello, I am new to linux/ubuntu.  I installed 12.10, updated it, installed some apps from the sofware center, and rebooted.  Now after I login nothing happens, all I see is the desktop wallpaper and my resolution changed.  Can someone help me?
[23:19] <fadax> ok thanks saltmiser i'll try that
[23:19] <saltmiser> fadax, it used to be packages.debian.org
[23:19] <saltmiser> back in the dizz-ay
[23:19] <saltmiser> sect0r, can you login with any other window manager
[23:20] <saltmiser> sup SolarisBoy
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> hi
[23:20] <saltmiser> do you use Solaris
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> sure
[23:20] <saltmiser> more than Ubuntu
[23:20] <saltmiser> ?
[23:20] <escott> fadax, apt-file can help you find individual files in packages
[23:21] <SolarisBoy> i guess i use ubuntu more often as i use it for a desktop
[23:22] <sect0r> saltmiser; how do i try that
[23:22] <saltmiser> do you ever see the login screen
[23:22] <saltmiser> where you have to login
[23:22] <sect0r> saltmiser; i can bring up a terminal with ctrl+alt+t
[23:23] <sect0r> yes
[23:23] <saltmiser> you have a terminal?
[23:23] <saltmiser> oh that's good
[23:23] <Joe> Hello, I have never used an operating system on a PC other than Windows. I am interested in using Ubunutu on an older computer however I have some questions before I procede
[23:23] <saltmiser> Joe, don't use Ubuntu use Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[23:24] <Joe> I read that Xubuntu and Lubuntu are more fit for computers with outdated hardware?
[23:24] <saltmiser> you read correct!
[23:24] <saltmiser> Lubuntu would be anything pre like 1998
[23:24] <saltmiser> 2000, or so
[23:25] <Joe> When would Xubuntu be? Because mine was probably around 2003
[23:25] <saltmiser> What are the specs?
[23:25] <saltmiser> Ubuntu runs nice if the 3D is supported out of the box
[23:25] <saltmiser> I use Xubuntu on my laptop I bought 2 years ago from walmart
[23:25] <saltmiser> dual-core 1 GHz CPU with 8GB DDR3 1066 RAM
[23:26] <saltmiser> Joe, depending on the specs, you should use Xubuntu
[23:26] <skp1> xfce4 is highlt customizable.
[23:27] <skp1> highly.
[23:27] <sect0r> saltmiser: could it be because I changed the video driver?
[23:27] <zygoptera> saltmiser >> a large percentage of the problem asked about here on the average day revolve are unity. Maybe xubuntu is a better solution for even newer computers?
[23:27] <escott> Joe, you could also try ubuntu in a virtual machine on modern hardware. ie download and install virtualbox on your windows system
[23:28] <saltmiser> zygoptera, considering I used unity once for about 5 minutes before I gave up, yes, I agree
[23:28] <saltmiser> escott, I agree
[23:28] <saltmiser> sect0r, that probably has a lot to do with it
[23:28] <Amphibulus> I have tested unity in the past and I did not like it, but since 12.04 I run unity
[23:28] <Joe> I believe it is a Dell Dimension 4600 which would leave it with Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz processor, 512 mb RAM and I'm not sure what other information is necessarry
[23:28] <Amphibulus> and I like it :S
[23:28] <saltmiser> sect0r, what is your video situation?
[23:29] <escott> Joe, and doing so would be both easier to use and a fairer comparison because you will be able to give substantially more resources to the virtual machine than your 2003 laptop
[23:29] <saltmiser> Amphibulus, if I had a touch screen I think unity would be nice.  If unity is what ubuntu is trying to sennd to the smartphones, that would be cool
[23:29] <sect0r> is there a way I can bring up ubuntu system settings from terminal?
[23:29] <saltmiser> sect0r, the terminal is the system settings ;P
[23:29] <saltmiser> I'm not sure what to tell you
[23:29] <saltmiser> do you know how to edit text files
[23:29] <saltmiser> ?
[23:29] <saltmiser> with nano
[23:29] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, I don't have a touch screen, but I don't know what people don't like about it
[23:30] <daftykins> sect0r: what do you want to change?
[23:30] <zygoptera> Joe >> if all your components are linux compatible, that should be sufficient
[23:30] <chuckly> I having trouble installing ubuntu on my motherboard z77 gigabyte
[23:30] <saltmiser> daftykins, he messed up his video, I was going to have him boot X with the vesa driver to get him going
[23:30] <Joe> I am limited with Linux information, how can I learn if my components are compatible?
[23:30] <daftykins> saltmiser: ah ok, sorry didn't realise you were already on that one
[23:30] <sect0r> daftykins: the graphics driver it uses
[23:31] <Amphibulus> Joe buy parts, and if it doesn't work put them in the trash, then repeat
[23:31] <escott> Joe, thats what the install cd/livecd is for
[23:31] <chuckly> I have create a usb stick and only get so far with the initial boot and then stops
[23:31] <saltmiser> Joe, most are. Boot up the live cd and see what happens
[23:31] <Amphibulus> that's what I have done, but now I'm happy with my setup
[23:31] <saltmiser> chuckly, what you mean it stops
[23:31] <daftykins> Joe: there are hardware compatibility lists online
[23:32] <the_mix> chuckly, use universal usb installer
[23:32] <zygoptera> Joe >> a xubuntu live cd is the final way to know.
[23:32] <the_mix> to make it bootable
[23:32] <Joe> Live CD from Ubunutu? I have not purchased anything yet, I have just been looking around when I found an old tower in my basement with a very limited hard drive
[23:32] <Amphibulus> chuckly, I have a z77a msi and it works
[23:32] <saltmiser> Joe you don't purchase anything
[23:33] <chuckly> saltmiser: 12.04.1 64bit uefi I get stripes on the screen after the first boot
[23:33] <escott> !nomodeset | chuckly
[23:33] <Joe> So for a live cd I jsut download the Xubutnu iso image and burn it to a cd?
[23:33] <saltmiser> joe, yes
[23:33] <saltmiser> just like if you were illegally burning a windows cd
[23:34] <saltmiser> same exact procedure
[23:34] <Amphibulus> there is some system that I was unable to install with 12.04.1 but I have able with 12.04... maybe you can give it a try
[23:34] <chuckly> saltmiser: should I boot into uefi or not with 12.04.1
[23:34] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:34] <Joe> okay and I am able to do this using a bootable flash drive as well?
[23:34] <saltmiser> chuckly, I don't know what UEFI is unfortunately. I'm just a programmer
[23:34] <zygoptera> Joe >>  yes
[23:34] <saltmiser> Joe indeed you can
[23:35] <Joe> Okay thank you. So Ubuntu is not suggested for my Dimension 4600? Which is more preferred, Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[23:35] <saltmiser> joe I believe there are decent instructions on the ubuntu website for how to burn an ISO image to a flash drive, the xubuntu procedure would bet he same
[23:35] <chuckly> I will try to boot with nomodeset
[23:35] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:35] <zygoptera> Xubuntu should be fine
[23:35] <saltmiser> Joe Xubuntu would be preferred.  Lubuntu is for extremely limited computers, i'm talking like Pentium 3's and earlier
[23:35] <chuckly> how do I do this with the live usb
[23:35] <saltmiser> I use XFCE on a 500mhz pentium3 anyway
[23:35] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, do you run 12.04 or 12.10?
[23:36] <saltmiser> so really like pentium 2's and other obscure hardware
[23:36] <saltmiser> cat: /etc/ubuntu-version: No such file or directory
[23:36] <Joe> Okay thank you. What is really the difference between Xubuntu and Ubuntu?
[23:36] <danman1453> just upgraded to 12.04 from 11.10, the gui shows the desktop background, then backs out to a terminal looking screen with no prompt. Just something about mount then unmounting the network filesystems.
[23:36] <escott> Joe, the gui is different
[23:36] <Amphibulus> Joe, X interface
[23:36] <zygoptera> Joe >> it should probably run xubuntu faster than it ran windows
[23:36] <saltmiser> Joe Xubuntu uses a 2D desktop environment like Windows XP and 2000
[23:36] <OerHeks> xubuntu 512 mb, ubuntu 1 gb
[23:37] <saltmiser> Joe Ubuntu uses a 3D environment like windows aero, etc.
[23:37] <lazer> Joe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment (See Unity and Xfce)
[23:37] <danman1453> i can ctl-alt-f1 into tty1 and start startx no problem. but my usb hd isnt mounted. my other local shares are fine.
[23:37] <Amphibulus> So I guess I'm the only one who like Unity
[23:37] <OerHeks> Lubuntu 256 mb
[23:37] <Joe> Okay, will it require the same or possibly less hard drive space than windows? Because I had to use a small hard drive I had laying aroudn to reinstall Windows as my old one stopped functioning
[23:37] <saltmiser> Joe WAy less space
[23:37] <C4zz1dy> Isn't Unity a game engine? ;P
[23:37] <saltmiser> Joe if you have like 4GB that's fine
[23:38] <Joe> Okay thank you very much, I will try to install Xubuntu when I've some spare time. For now I will attempt to learn teh basics of this operating system. Thanks!
[23:38] <saltmiser> Amphibulus, I've been using KDE and XFCE for so long that I just can't adjust to Unity.  I miss GNOME
[23:38] <Amphibulus> Well, it runs nicely here, really fast
[23:38] <escott> C4zz1dy, there is a game named unity as well
[23:38] <danman1453> every time i have upgraded to the latest release, the boot broke. i am going to stop upgrading.
[23:38] <C4zz1dy> seriously?
[23:38] <C4zz1dy> to the googles. brb
[23:38] <zygoptera> Joe >> if you want to get general use from it, I would recommend at least 18gb
[23:38] <escott> C4zz1dy, there is also a game named chromium and it came first so installing chromium is usually not what people want when they want the browser
[23:38] <chuckly> ubottu: the page indicates I need 12.10, so I will do boot without uefi, if I can only work out how to do it
[23:39] <sect0r> saltmiser: yes, I know how to use pico, what file contains the gpu driver information I'm looking for?
[23:39] <saltmiser> Joe, I can tell you the basics in a sentence.  Linux does everything from the command line, aka a terminal.  Learn to use the terminal, and you'll know how to control everything.
[23:39] <escott> chuckly, you can boot efi in 12.04
[23:39] <lazer> (And there are unity linux! I googled!)
[23:39] <saltmiser> sect0r, I was thinking /etc/X11/xorg.conf, that is where X stores it's configuration.  If it is an empty file that means X is autoconfiguring it's self when you start it
[23:39] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:39] <sect0r> i checked that, it's empty
[23:39] <Joe> Do you have any advice on where I can learn to sue a terminal?
[23:40] <C4zz1dy> well I know of Chromium..
[23:40] <saltmiser> sect0r, if you can manage to get the X server shut down, some commands you could play with as root include `X -configure` and `X -config /root/my_test_xorg.conf`
[23:40] <Joe> **use
[23:40] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, I just pin the software that I use on the bar, then I search for those that I need, not sure sure what is missing
[23:40] <C4zz1dy> Some galactica looking thing
[23:40] <chuckly> do some more reading then, thanks for your help and patienc
[23:40] <lazer> Joe: Just keep using it and you'll learn that way.
[23:40] <saltmiser> `X -configure` will make an xorg.conf.new file based on the configuration it finds
[23:40] <C4zz1dy> Joe, start by registering on the Ubuntu forums :)
[23:40] <skp1> unity is awesome.
[23:40] <OerHeks> Joe, good start > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[23:40] <saltmiser> when the system boots, X will use /etc/X11/xorg.conf as it's graphics configuration
[23:41] <saltmiser> here you can set up custom resolutions, etc.
[23:41] <Joe> Okay I will give it a shot. Terminal is for Xubuntu as DOS is for Windows?
[23:41] <Amphibulus> skp1, :)
[23:41] <C4zz1dy> The community and help articles are pretty good
[23:41] <saltmiser> but sect0r, if you change the video driver to "vesa" the X server should start.
[23:41] <C4zz1dy> It's a sexier version of CMD
[23:41] <C4zz1dy> lol
[23:41] <saltmiser> sect0r, if you could give me more details on what sort of GPU you're working with I could help more
[23:41] <Joe> Alright haha thanks!
[23:41] <saltmiser> I've delt with both nvidia and ati
[23:42] <saltmiser> Joe, don't forget that Ubuntu isn't the only distro in the world
[23:42] <saltmiser> Joe, OpenSUSE is another nice one
[23:42] <saltmiser> you might like Kubuntu if you're not underestimating your laptop's capabilities
[23:42] <C4zz1dy> Kubuntu too
[23:42] <sect0r> saltmiser, thanks for your help, i fixed it. ran software-properties-gtk from the terminal window I got to open and switched it back to the old driver.
[23:42] <C4zz1dy> and Mint..though Ubuntu still my fave.
[23:42] <saltmiser> sect0r sweet. I don't actually use ubuntu, I use gentoo :P
[23:43] <zygoptera> saltmiser >> dell dimension 4600 specs here ... http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600/sm/specs.htm
[23:43] <Joe> Do you prefer one over the other for lightness? I am looking for a quick Operating System that will run smoothly
[23:43] <saltmiser> my "work laptop" runs ubuntu and I use ubuntu server a lot so, figured I'd hang out here
[23:43] <saltmiser> runs xubuntu, that is ;D
[23:43] <saltmiser> Joe xubuntu will run pretty quick
[23:43] <aeon-ltd> Joe: got time? arch or ubuntu server. start from scratch just install the stuff you need
[23:44] <saltmiser> you can have gentoo compile every source file specifically for your computer's processor
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> Joe: you can't get leaner than that without recompiling every package
[23:44] <saltmiser> pretty much
[23:44] <saltmiser> arch always seemed really snappy for 32 bit machiens
[23:44] <saltmiser> since xubuntu compiles for 386 still
[23:44] <Joe> I am not sure how I would install the stuff I need. I have never used an operating system on my desktop computer other than Windows so I am looking for a Linux operating system to learn on
[23:44] <saltmiser> arch linux compiles for the 686
[23:45] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:45] <saltmiser> Joe, you can get your feet wet with xubuntu
[23:45] <escott> !apt | Joe
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> latest kernel dropped i386 a while ago
[23:45] <zygoptera> Joe >> According to your system specs, you could possibly do a memory upgrade to 1gb. If it is cheap enough, it might be advisable
[23:45] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, sorry, does it build for 686 yet or just 486
[23:45] <chuckly> managed to get it booting with live usb however freezes ast freeing unused kernel memory
[23:45] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: arch?
[23:45] <C4zz1dy> If you're looking for one to learn on, i'd suggest an out of box install first..
[23:45] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, ubuntu
[23:45] <Joe> Could I get Xubuntu running on it withotu the memory upgrade? If I can tes tit out and I like it, I will possibly upgrade to enhance performance
[23:46] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, yes an out-of-box install of xubuntu for Joe's older dell laptop
[23:46] <zygoptera> Joe >> yes. Just advisable for the long run
[23:46] <C4zz1dy> oh lol
[23:46] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: it builds for 686 i think, but you can still use 486. let me google.
[23:46] <C4zz1dy> didn't read that
[23:46] <jarray52> Is the AOC E1649FWU supported on Ubuntu 12.10 in conjunction with a VGA monitor? It's a USB monitor that uses the displaylink driver?
[23:46] <saltmiser> Joe I used xubuntu on a 500 MHz Pentium 3 with 512MB of ram
[23:46] <C4zz1dy> yea try it out with something affordable first
[23:46] <Joe> I will consider it once I get up and running. I will most likely install Xubuntu to learn Linux basics as I've not the slightest clue on a Linux based operating ssytem at this time
[23:47] <C4zz1dy> It's okay, a lot of us are still finding our way around
[23:47] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: just 386 is dropped, not 486
[23:47] <jarray52> Joe: have you used a Mac before?
[23:47] <saltmiser> Joe, once you get the ropes of driving ubuntu from the command line, you'll be ready for arch linux and gentoo. this may take years however :P
[23:48] <C4zz1dy> lol
[23:48] <Joe> I have used a Mac maybe 3 times to check an E-Mail or look up something on Google :p
[23:48] <C4zz1dy> you mean it WILL take years ;D
[23:48] <C4zz1dy> HAH
[23:48] <Joe> When I said I was clueless on Linuxs based operating systems, I meant it!
[23:48] <escott> aeon-ltd, ubuntu is compiled for 586 or 686 these days
[23:49] <Joe> I believe my Android smartphone uses a Linux based operating system, however I'm not much into the operating system yet :p
[23:49] <aeon-ltd> C4zz1dy: no, learn fast. you'll learn faster by diving into arch. if you can run a vm you can get a little testing playground to work with.
[23:50] <saltmiser> Joe, your fastest, best computer that is personal. does it run windows 7 and was it made after 2010?
[23:50] <Amphibulus> saltmiser, I run ubuntu on a E3-1230v2, 32gb ram with an SSD and a GTX660 with 4 monitors, no lag so far
[23:50] <SnapSnap> When I try to perform a backup, I get the following error: "BackendException: Could not initialize backend: No module named couch.auth"
[23:50] <saltmiser> Joe because if it is new enough, you should install Virtualbox or VMWareplayer on it and you can install computers in there
[23:50] <saltmiser> including windows
[23:50] <Joe> My fastest, best personal computer is my Windows 8 laptop bought right after release
[23:51] <C4zz1dy> Holy crap Amphibulus talk about beastly overkill
[23:51] <saltmiser> Amphibulus, lol but the compiled code is it taking advantage of all the assembly instructiosn your wicked CPU supports?
[23:51] <saltmiser> it _could_ run faster :P :P
[23:51] <Joe> Well my only real reason for switching operating systems is so I can begin using my old tower again
[23:51] <zygoptera> Joe >> looking at your system specs {radeon 9800 video, intel eepro ethernet} should be fine. I am still looking for what sound card you have
[23:51] <chuckly> removed graphics card and it works
[23:51] <saltmiser> Joe I can dig that
[23:51] <C4zz1dy> there's only one reason for 4 screens...
[23:51] <aeon-ltd> C4zz1dy: needs more overclocking...
[23:52] <saltmiser> Joe that Pentium 3 I keep talking about from 1997 I still use. it runs FreeBSD though
[23:52] <Amphibulus> I have 4 X Asus PA238Q
[23:52] <saltmiser> AMD Phenom II X6 3.0 GHz
[23:52] <C4zz1dy> go home Bill Gates, you're drunk
[23:52] <saltmiser> but that has windows booted right now
[23:52] <saltmiser> with ubuntu-server running in a VM
[23:53] <saltmiser> BUT EVERYBODY this is just a transition from arch linux to gentoo for it. the system has 3 hard drives, windows takes up 2 of 'em :P
[23:53] <Joe> Hmm, what do you suggest for a simple operating system to learn the basics of Linux on?
[23:53] <saltmiser> Joe, FreeBSD, but that ain't even Linux
[23:53] <lolcat> Hello
[23:53] <C4zz1dy> hey saltmiser, i've never used ubuntu-server or arch..what're their purposes?
[23:53] <lolcat> How may I mount a wubi .disk image?
[23:53] <aeon-ltd> Joe: basics?=command line?
[23:53] <escott> Joe, but why? if your interest is making an informed judgement about how much you like linux as a desktop OS you should use a VM on your existing system
[23:53] <C4zz1dy> wubi is an .exe installer
[23:53] <saltmiser> escott, no he just wants to use his old tower for soemthing
[23:54] <saltmiser> because windows 98 is useless
[23:54] <C4zz1dy> it's great for powerdorking in IT consultant interviews
[23:54] <escott> Joe, if you just want to toy around with old hardware or have some task that needs limited computational capabilities then using the old machine makes sense
[23:54] <Joe> Basics as in browsing the Internet basics, I've used nothing other than a Windows really haha
[23:54] <lolcat> Please, I need to check this image
[23:54] <saltmiser> Joe when you get it all installed, use google chrome or chromium as the browser, it runs the best
[23:54] <aeon-ltd> Joe: browsers are the same across all oses
[23:54] <escott> Joe, i wouldn't even use a machine from 2003 for browsing the web
[23:55] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, ubuntu-server, arch linux and freebsd all come with "nothing" installed, no GUI, etc.
[23:55] <escott> Joe, there is too much flash and too much video and too much javascript and too much memory usage
[23:55] <escott> Joe, websites use opengl these days...
[23:55] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, sometimes I just need a unix shell to do some programming from, doesn't really matter what the OS is and I don't need a gUI
[23:55] <C4zz1dy> oh..
[23:55] <saltmiser> many people like me don't need a GUI
[23:55] <C4zz1dy> so how does one even get "started" with that? :P
[23:55] <saltmiser> just on the computer in front of them
[23:55] <zygoptera> escoot >> I do. I have plenty of computing power, more than enough for linux web browsinh
[23:55] <Joe> A memory upgrade would not be worth it then?
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: wuuuuuuut, file management sucks with guis
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> *without
[23:56] <saltmiser> like I have one computer in front of me running Xubuntu.  But I have about 3 more I'm working with that have no GUI
[23:56] <k1l_> C4zz1dy: ubuntu-server comes without a desktop preinstalled.
[23:56] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, please, file management is a snap without a gui
[23:56] <escott> Joe, im just questioning the wisdom of this from the perspective of "i want to learn about linux" if you want to learn about linux i would go the VM route
[23:56] <C4zz1dy> aeon-ltd, he's from the matrix :P
[23:56] <saltmiser> easier than with a GUI
[23:56] <Amphibulus> I have 32gb ram it's usefull when you spin up lot of dev box
[23:56] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: drag/drop > mv
[23:56] <saltmiser> escott, let the man use his ancient tower damnit
[23:56] <namesJay> Hello ppl
[23:56] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, are you kidding
[23:56] <C4zz1dy> i can't even navigate my download folder on Windows..
[23:56] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, I write programs to do my file management
[23:56] <saltmiser> python and common lisp
[23:56] <zygoptera> escott >> Joe's machine came standard witha 128mg radeon 9800, It can web browse
[23:57] <saltmiser> hell I used to use common lisp as my login shell
 escott, let the man use his ancient tower damnit
[23:57] <Amphibulus> anybody have experience with chef or puppet?
[23:57] <Joe> I am interested in using an old machine for light use. When I said I wanted to learn Linux, I meant the basics and later on maybe get more detailed. I am just looking to put this old tower to some use for the time being
[23:57] <crumychrome> or chroubuntu?
[23:57] <saltmiser> Joe, I understand!
[23:57] <saltmiser> Joe, escott doesn't :P
[23:58] <k1l_> Amphibulus: ask a direct question if its ubuntu support related
[23:58] <C4zz1dy> Yea Joe, go try the distros saltmiser advised :)
[23:58] <saltmiser> Joe, you have a feeling, an itch to fire that old computer up, probably just because it's old, and of all the old things you have that you don't use anymore; this computer is the best example. I totally feel you.
[23:58] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, he's not ready for those
[23:58] <k1l_> Joe: go with Lubuntu or Xubuntu
[23:58] <saltmiser> you only need those if you live breath and sleep unix
[23:58] <k1l_> Joe: Lubuntu is for slower hardware.
[23:58] <C4zz1dy> I meant the ones u advised for him
[23:58] <C4zz1dy> like eaaaarlier
[23:58] <saltmiser> C4zz1dy, like xubuntu? yeah
[23:59] <C4zz1dy> yep ^^
[23:59] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Joe
[23:59] <aeon-ltd> ok, lets solve this with a vote, i vote lubuntu.
[23:59] <saltmiser> I vote xubuntu
[23:59] <TheLordOfTime> aeon-ltd, lets not.
[23:59] <crumychrome> i'm a previous windows user - i just installed ubuntu 12.4 onto my chromebook c710....
[23:59] <C4zz1dy> Xubuntu
[23:59] <TheLordOfTime> !poll | aeon-ltd
[23:59] <saltmiser> lubuntu will give the man a bad impression of what Linux GUI's can provide to the user who wants a simple experience
[23:59] <saltmiser> Lubuntu is too simple
[23:59] <saltmiser> and doesn't look that great either
[23:59] <Joe> that is exactly my feeling :p I just wanna test it out because I started up Windows XP on it and it's terribly slow, I will be installing Xubunutu on it soon and learning the very basic of a Linux operatin system on it
[23:59] <namesJay> 30 m here ...any lady wanna chat?