fwereadejam, ping06:51
jamhi fwereade06:51
fwereadejam, I need to talk with you about constraints at some point06:52
fwereadejam, I'm probably still a bit too tired to do so usefully today06:52
jamfwereade: np. You're in EU time now, right?06:53
fwereadejam, but I would be most grateful if you would think briefly about what was painful so we can have a productive chat tomorrow06:53
fwereadejam, yeah06:53
fwereadejam, my rough recollection is that juju-supplied defaults are bad, and the provider should be supplying those itself; this sounds sane, but if there's anything else I'll want to know :)06:55
fwereaderogpeppe, ping07:07
fwereadeTheMue, heyhey07:29
TheMuefwereade: Good morning, William. Had a good travel back?07:31
fwereadeTheMue, yeah, not bad07:31
fwereadeTheMue, frankfurt airport seems to have become nicer somehow07:32
fwereadeTheMue, maybe it's just that I was there at 5am on sunday and it seemed like nobody else was :)07:32
TheMuefwereade: Hehe, yeah, a special time.07:32
TheMuefwereade: A few days agon, on Monday, FRA was alost closed due to snow.07:34
fwereadeTheMue, yeah, LHR and JFK were also both snowy, I was pretty lucky with all my travel tbh07:35
rogpeppefwereade: pong07:44
fwereaderogpeppe, heyhey07:44
rogpeppemorning all!07:44
fwereadelater guys, might be around off and on but don't count on it, basically calling today a swap day07:52
TheMuere, back from dentist.08:58
TheMueHmm, somehow my editor dislikes me this morning. Package management for extensions like e.g. for Go fails.09:28
jamdimitern: if you see mgz around, let him know I might be a little bit late for our 1:109:49
dimiternjam: sure09:49
dimiternmgz: jam asked me to tell you he'll be a bit late for the 1:110:01
mgzdimitern: thanks10:03
jamhi mramm, I'm chatting with mgz right now, but when we're done, I'd love to finally catch up with you10:54
mrammjam: sounds good.10:56
jammramm: poke. I'm on mumble if you are11:25
mrammI am11:26
TheMueso, back12:04
TheMueniemeyer: Hiya12:04
TheMueniemeyer: Nice idea, the statistics for baby feeding. ;)12:05
niemeyerTheMue: Cheers :)12:07
mgzcore guys, can someone look at my one-line change and confirm it's correct? <https://codereview.appspot.com/7233046/>12:30
TheMuemgz: You've got a +1.12:34
fwereademgz, hell, sorry about that... we should probably have a trivial test on every package to stop things like this from happening12:38
fwereademorning niemeyer12:38
fwereade(not actually working today)12:39
mgzfwereade: yeah, I'd like commands to have some "does --help" work thing, but haven't worked out a neat version of the python idiom for that yet12:39
niemeyerfwereade: yo12:40
fwereademgz, good idea12:40
fwereadeniemeyer, how's it going?12:40
niemeyerfwereade: Good, will start the week having a look at goamz12:40
fwereadeniemeyer, excellent12:40
rogpeppe fwereade: i've got a patch for gotest which complains if this happens14:25
fwereaderogpeppe, sweet14:26
rogpeppefwereade: unfortunately i seem to remember it wasn't acceptable14:27
fwereaderogpeppe, haha, ok14:28
fwereaderogpeppe, go build ./... && go test ./... :-/14:28
rogpeppefwereade: isn't it working?14:29
fwereaderogpeppe, I expect it is now, but it wasn't14:29
rogpeppefwereade: BTW i've got a workaround script for the fact that you can't do  go test -c ./...14:29
TheMuefwereade: How about the still open idea of having a CI server?14:30
rogpeppefwereade: ah, that must've been your Conn changes. don't you always run go test ./... before submitting?14:31
fwereaderogpeppe, ofc I do14:31
fwereaderogpeppe, that doesn't help with the packages without tests ;p14:31
rogpeppefwereade: ha14:31
TheMuefwereade: hehe14:31
rogpeppefwereade: i think go test should at least try to compile the package even if has no tests14:32
fwereadeTheMue, +1 on that, not sure when I'm going to get around to it though14:32
fwereaderogpeppe, agreed14:32
rogpeppefwereade: i'll raise an issue14:32
fwereadeTheMue, wasn't davecheney working on that a while ago?14:32
fwereaderogpeppe, cool14:32
TheMuefwereade: dunno if already working, but imho thinking about it.14:33
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niemeyermramm: Do you know if the consistency call is rolling today?17:30
mrammniemeyer: I believe that it is not17:39
niemeyermramm: Cool17:39
rogpeppejust run first tentative benchmark of rpc server, just for sanity check, and i get about 4000 requests a second (or 2000 rpc when round-tripping to mongo). i *think* that should be ok.17:56
rogpeppes/2000 rpc/2000 rps/ :-)17:56
TheMuerogpeppe: Sounds nice.17:58
rogpeppeTheMue: that's not fantastic really - it's an upper bound on how many requests we can expect to serve per second from a single api server instance.18:00
rogpeppeTheMue: but i think we probably have some possibilities for optimisation18:00
TheMuerogpeppe: I think it's ok as it is your first approach and e'thing runs on only one machine (calling and processing).18:11
rogpeppeTheMue: yeah, but that means it's actually faster than it will be in real life, i think (we're doing almost no processing). we'll see.18:12
TheMuerogpeppe: I'm optimistic that you may tune it a but.18:14
rogpeppeTheMue: we actually have the possibility of using a different protocol for agents (we could maybe use gob, for example)18:15
rogpeppeTheMue: and that could be quite a bit more efficient than websockets+json, i think18:16
rogpeppeTheMue: so we do have leeway18:16
TheMuerogpeppe: gob may be nice as the volume is smaller. but how about clients in different langs then?18:18
rogpeppeTheMue: all our agents are written in the same language :-)18:18
TheMuerogpeppe: thankfully you don't use xml. :P18:18
TheMuerogpeppe: the api is only inteded between the agents and the server? thought of the html client too.18:19
niemeyerInteresting content-type to find in a test case..18:19
rogpeppeTheMue: we could use a different protocol for agents vs html clients18:19
rogpeppeniemeyer: ha18:19
TheMuerogpeppe: ah, ic, that's in that case pretty nice.18:19
niemeyerI almost don't want to fix it :-)18:19
rogpeppeniemeyer: lol18:20
TheMueniemeyer: :)18:20
rogpepperight, all tests passing, time to call it a night18:33
rogpeppeg'night all18:33
rogpeppeniemeyer: happy goamz sprinting!18:34
niemeyerrogpeppe: Cheers18:34
TheMuebye roger18:34
niemeyerrogpeppe: Have a good time there18:34
rogpeppeniemeyer: and you18:34
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