[00:26] hi i'm trying to watch a movie on dragon player [00:26] it's slow and choppy [00:26] i'm on an imac g5 2.0ghz powerpc single core ati radeon 9600pro 128mb with 1.4gb ram [00:27] use VLC [00:27] thanks [00:28] it's the best video player on Linux [00:28] +1 [00:28] why isn't it shipped with all distros then, why is dragon player the default? [00:28] if you have problems with it, then you have a serious problem ;) [00:29] probably a question of licenses [00:29] I thnk VLC uses a bunch of proprietary libraries [00:30] ok === pete_ is now known as Guest6149 [00:33] ok so i think i installed it [00:33] but i can't find it [00:34] locate vlc [00:34] that whill show the path to it. [00:34] how? [00:34] In your terminal [00:35] should be in Menu -> Multimedia too [00:35] In your terminal, type: locate vlc [00:36] thanks [00:36] but it isn't in multimedia [00:40] if it's installed, it will run from a terminal type vlc or as Obsidian1723 says you can locate the location and then use the full path. Another command you can use is the which command.... therefore you would type which vlc that will also show you where the vlc program was installed [00:41] o_o [00:42] all "locate vlc" does is show me a .desktop file [00:42] kako_: it's normal that a freshly installed program doesn't show up in the menus. It'll be there at next login [00:43] if it's installed, it will run from a terminal type vlc or as Obsidian1723 says you can locate the location and then use the full path. Another command you can use is the which command.... therefore you would type which vlc that will also show you where the vlc program was installed [00:43] i don't think it was all the way installed though [00:43] it should start from a terminal though, or the start-up box thingy that I always forget the name [00:43] cause it seems to be just that one .desktop file [00:44] if you are only seeing the desktop file when using the locate command then more than likely the install was broken. try uninstalling and then reinstalling again [00:45] ok [00:45] should you not updatedb for locate to find it? [00:45] though it should start using the command "vlc" [00:45] can try that but that should have been updated on install [00:46] missing menu item.....sounds broken imho [00:48] If VLC is still borning up, reconfigure it. [00:49] sudo dpkg-reconfigure vlc [00:49] if that fails, reinstall. [00:49] sudo apt-get install --reinstall vlc [00:59] kako gave up I guess [01:08] it was broken [01:08] the installer got the core [01:08] and the libraries [01:08] but that was it [01:10] kako_: so does it work now? [01:10] you sending that message froze it but yea [01:11] Hello, crowd. [01:11] Darkwing: We meet again. lol [01:12] I'm trying to install Firefox from the installer on Kubuntu, but I'm getting an error: [01:12] The package "firefox-kde-support" has not been found among your software sources. Therefore, it cannot be installed. [01:15] have your tried installing the vanilla firefox? [01:15] .... huh? [01:15] by apt-get doesn't list firefox-kde-support either [01:15] my* === pete_ is now known as Guest32925 [01:16] just use apt-get and installe the package "firefox" [01:16] -e [01:16] .... Apparently it's an 'https' link, and I can't navigate to it. -_- [01:17] what is? [01:17] I decided to navigate to Mozilla's site to download Firefox that way, and it pops up as a secured address. [01:17] ah, probably not a good idea [01:17] just use the repos [01:18] My connection through my phone won't allow me to download it that way. [01:18] why not? [01:18] It's a free app. lol [01:19] Try wget [01:19] E: Unable to locate package firefox-kde-support [01:19] ok so now it just seems to be pixely and slow and really shitty [01:19] the video [01:19] you're trying to install firefox on your phone trough an app on kde? [01:19] kako, watch your language. [01:19] sorry about that [01:20] No, KimLaroux, I get my internet to my laptop through my phone, with a free app. [01:20] kako_: maybe the video has a bad quality to start with? [01:20] I'm trying to install Firefox on my laptop, and it's not allowing me to download it. [01:20] so it's not a Kubuntu problem [01:20] KimLaroux: it was much faster on dragon for some reason but i can't figure out why [01:22] KimLaroux: maybe it's a graphics issue? as in driver stuff [01:22] LINKSWORD2: you may have to setup apt-get to use a proxy [01:23] .... I'm confused. [01:23] kako_: maybe vlc isn't configured properly [01:23] KimLaroux: how would i configure it? [01:23] tools > preferences [01:24] there's a gazilions settings in there [01:25] kako_, you said you have imac g5 with ati radeon 9600pro, is there a graphics driver available ? [01:25] supposedly [01:25] though from what i can find online [01:25] it's already installed [01:25] but i don't know [01:27] Tools > System > additional Drivers [01:27] aka jockey [01:28] KimLaroux: I need the repo command for firefox. [01:28] sudo apt-get install firefox [01:28] OerHeks: I see that everywhere but i have no idea what that means. the path stuff... [01:29] it's the K menu [01:29] kickoff? [01:29] yeah [01:29] E: Package 'firefox' has no installation candidate [01:29] in this context [01:30] ummm there [01:30] Will somebody please slap this repo directory? lol [01:30] is no tools for starters [01:30] Systems [01:30] in the classic menu [01:31] ok so i loaded it up [01:31] then i get a window saying jockey crashed [01:31] dude [01:31] your system is being a real pain tonight [01:32] you don't say === Jikan is now known as Jikai [01:32] lol [01:32] believe me on mac os x it was worse [01:32] things would crash [01:32] left and right [01:32] which after 5 trips to the apple store i said screw it i'm getting linux [01:33] lol [01:33] Linux isn't better [01:33] seriously [01:33] yea it kinda is, there's help! [01:33] I have stuff crashing left, right, down, up and center [01:33] hahaha i suppose so [01:33] If you know how to use it right, Linux *IS* better. [01:33] Unfortunately, there's more than a handful of misfits in the world. [01:34] yup [01:34] You have limited power to "use it right" when the problem comes from upstream [01:34] lol [01:34] if there's a bug, there's a bug [01:34] * LINKSWORD2 *Evil Grin.* [01:34] the best you can do is report it [01:36] well on my dell latitude d610 with mint kde none of this happened, but i had to retire that cause the graphics card melted due to a small fan forgetting that it needed to run [01:37] so if i' [01:37] Ouch. [01:37] i'm correct pastebin is where we all put the stuff for this kinda stuff [01:37] it's the bin where we paste [01:37] so not to flood here [01:38] paste.kde.org too [01:38] ok [01:38] why does kde get it's own pastebin? [01:38] Right? lol [01:39] kako_: there's a PPA for Firefox.. also, it has had major memory leaks since 2.0, I switched to Chromium, works great. [01:39] well for any and all who can read error reports, i give you something fundementally short: http://paste.kde.org/657860/ [01:39] but I also have a D610 running :Linux Mint 12 KDE, works fine. 2GB of RAM in it though. [01:39] Speaking of Chromium, I need the repo command for that, too. [01:40] mine was 2.5 and i'm working on replacing the graphics card in it [01:40] sudo add-apt-respository ppa:blah-blah-blah [01:40] segfault, who would have thought [01:40] those things are built like tanks [01:40] *head-desk* [01:40] yeah, not quite a Toughbook, but they are solid. [01:41] I remember being a support-tech for the D-610's. Pretty solid, alright. [01:41] Firefox has nice extensions, but the memory sucking isn't worth it. I';ve seen FF expand up to 4GB RAM on a Win box. [01:41] well i got vlc to run smoothly, can anyone guess what the new issue is? [01:42] I rarely use my laptop, so someday I'll replace it with a 8GB faster 3-something CPU setup running Kubuntu 12.04 or whatever the LTS is, or maybe I'll just go Debian. [01:42] what's the new issue? [01:43] it freezed on 1 frame then keeps adding over and over and over [01:43] VLC? [01:43] yea [01:43] i'm starting to wonder if the imac g5 was built for anything other than images [01:43] man, your system is seriously messed up [01:44] I think you must have som e sort of hardware issue. I can understand wireless being flakey on Linuxd, but VLC is 10+ years old, it's rock solid. [01:44] i know, it's horrendous! :D [01:44] iMac? [01:44] yup [01:44] Hold on... let me get my .45 out. I have 13 fixes for it. [01:45] You are trying to modify a Ferrari... That's not going to work very well. [01:45] imac g5: 2ghz powerpc single core. 1.5 gb ram. ati radeon 9600 128mb. and 233gb harddrive [01:45] Yeah, dump the Mac. [01:45] I'll take it.... [01:45] sure, what've you got? [01:46] I build custom desktops. =) [01:46] I have a few towers around here... If you're in MN, you can have one [01:46] i'm in me [01:46] ME xD [01:46] still [01:46] Nice state actually... [01:46] I like Maine/. [01:46] it's freezing [01:46] Last one I built was an ASUS Z77 with an i3 dual-core Turbo. [01:46] Yeah [01:46] oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [01:47] i want [01:47] Ivy Bridge. [01:47] LINKSWORD2: Building isn't worth the cost these days for most people unless it's a media server, high end gaming machine or server, or you just want top notch parts. [01:47] Customer wanted the best board & processor possible, but asked me to put in a 160GB SATA. lol [01:47] I remember the days when a 16 megabyte RAM SIMM was $600 [01:48] Obsidian1723: I remember those days.... *shudders.* [01:48] Everyone built then and upgrades as much as they could. Your average system was $2,000 back then, so figure about $4,000 in todays money. [01:48] Right? [01:48] i remember when the macintosh came out! [01:48] kilobytes of ram, xD [01:48] *Faints.* I'm not that old! LOL [01:48] don't have to be [01:48] LINKSWORD2: I need to dial into the BBS at 14.4k and use Z-Modem to download Disk 11 of Windows95a :) [01:48] i'm only 17 and i know enough about computers to fix most things [01:49] *Head-desk.* [01:49] i wouldn't use linux if i risked blowing up a machine [01:49] I'm a 24-year old IT tech. [01:49] which i've seen done before with someone editing theMAC address xD [01:49] kako_: When I started computing, Apple was 2 years old, Microsoft 3, Windows didn't exist for 7 years, and the web n0ot for 12. DNS didn't exist for 8 more years. [01:49] * LINKSWORD2 *Evil Grin.* [01:49] I started out on Unix back in 1978 [01:50] fun [01:50] Up until 1986, the 9 NAPs all ran off of a single T-1 line. [01:50] *Craps self.* [01:50] No DNS until then either. [01:50] i wish i'd been around when a 13 inch was considered big [01:50] ROFL! [01:50] then i'd be making money by now with my skills [01:50] .... *Mind drops into the gutter.* [01:50] I used a 110 baud modem with an accoustic coupler and a rotary phone you had to put the handset into the modem coupler. [01:51] xD yes! [01:51] Help! My mind has a dirty mind and it refuses to be cleaned! [01:51] Scrrrrrrrrrrrrech! SHHHHHHHHHH boing boing ka shhhhhhhhhhhhht [01:51] good old days [01:51] 5.24" flopies, zip disks, syquest disks uin 40 or 88 meg.... [01:51] 5.25 [01:51] .... Right? lol [01:51] 3.5" disks [01:52] I remember those. [01:52] Obsidian1723: how old are you, if you don't mind me asking? [01:52] Kim, are you hitting on us again? :P [01:52] I'm 45, started in 78 when I was 12, so 35+ years in the game now? [01:52] * KimLaroux nods. [01:52] In March, I'll be 46. [01:52] THIS is why linux is better than windows or mac, the community is fun! [01:52] kako_: Agreed. [01:52] Man, the Internet is so young [01:52] Not to mention, I got tired of all the over-priced crap. [01:53] Kim.... Your turn. :P [01:53] yup [01:53] 24 [01:53] You guys are all spoiled. I didn't have the web, forums, etc to go for help to. No IRC until 1988... I had computer clubs, BBSes, and just had to figure shyte out myself. heheh [01:53] * LINKSWORD2 *Evil Grin.* [01:53] IRC was born the same year I was =D [01:53] Now Im just old, lazy and jaded. gdet off my lawn channel dadcum it *shakes cane* [01:53] IRC is a lot of fun. [01:53] It is. [01:54] I learned java by playing around with a ide [01:54] I ran a small IRC network for awhile, had a BBS before that. [01:54] .... Obsidian, don't make me slap you with my new-age anti-geezer swatter. lol [01:54] xD [01:54] LINKSWORD2: Wait... you'll slap me? For FREE? Normall Mistress Vanity charges me $50 for that. [01:54] hahah [01:54] :D [01:54] LMAO~!!! [01:55] You need to change Mistress [01:55] yeah [01:55] I can give you phone numbers, if you want ;) [01:55] Ok.. old skool here... Anyone ever use Undernet back in the 90s? [01:55] Ah, yeah. [01:55] undernet? [01:55] that's new to me [01:55] remember when Wildthan /killed 15k users? [01:55] I used Undernet in 2003, does it count? [01:55] I was young, back then. *Slaps self.* [01:55] WildThang [01:56] Back whejn X and W were around. He did something funky with @UWorld and killed a ton of users. [01:56] I don't remember half the commands in IRC.... [01:56] '03???? Yer new here!! [01:56] :D [01:57] LINKSWORD2: When I ran my IRC network I had an mIRC bot I wrote connect to a IRC server and I used to issue raw commands for fun [01:57] And it's already a decade [01:57] Nice. [01:57] :NICKSERV PRIVMSG LINKSWORD2: Hey there :) -- would make NickServ message you. [01:57] lol [01:57] Sounds like fun. [01:57] I'd make NickServ kill opers on their b-day. [01:58] lol [01:58] :NICKSERV KILL LINKSWORD2: Happy Birthday!! [01:58] Just like that [01:58] LOL [01:58] Hehe. [01:58] I could sniff messages, all sorts of stuff. Logged it all. [01:58] Like Wireshark for IRC. [01:59] i kinda hate to be "that guy" but i did come here looking for some help and i'm wondering if deinterlacing could help speed up my fps and stuff [01:59] Unlike the last time I popped into this room, I'm running Oneric... [01:59] You guys are evil [01:59] BOFH baby!! [01:59] And it appears to be possible for me to upgrade to Precise. [01:59] sure, just format [01:59] LINKSWORD2: do the clean install. UpDATES are of, but upGRADES are always messy. [02:00] .... I'm a little dubious. The last time I tried to upgrade, it crashed. [02:00] I always format [02:00] .... I'd like to do a clean, but don't have a DVD available. [02:00] thre are like 9-12 options [02:00] distupgrades are just ugly [02:00] why not use read writes [02:00] LINKSWORD2: I thought you were going directly from Maverick to Precise? [02:00] .... Because I don't have them. -_- [02:00] LINKSWORD2: give me and adress I'll mail you one [02:01] Frog, it crashed during upgrade. [02:01] LINKSWORD2: telnet bofh.jeffballard.us 666 2>/dev/null |grep --color -o "Your excuse is:.*$" [02:01] I have a truckload and never use them [02:01] I had to re-install. [02:01] .... Yeah, how'd you know that, Obsidian1723? [02:01] LINKSWORD2: Lovely. What a nuisance. [02:01] I am evil? [02:01] .... Where's my Geezer-Swatter? [02:01] Love the random stuff it spits out. [02:02] You sure, Kim? [02:02] telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl [02:02] Or are you hitting on me? :P [02:02] even more geeky [02:02] Obsidian1723: *Facepalm.* [02:03] LINKSWORD2: I think you're feeling lonely [02:03] no not blinkenlight [02:03] s [02:03] * LINKSWORD2 *Evil Grin.* [02:03] that's starwars [02:03] kako_: Good luck on getting it to work on the Mac.It's not an Intel proc in there, and You cvan't go beyond 10.4 I think? for Mac OS X on that CPU. [02:03] lol [02:03] aren't macs using intel now? [02:03] KimLaroux: Maybe. =P [02:03] You are basically trying to install Linux on a real oddball, like an Amiga. [02:03] .... Yeah, they should be. [02:04] Realize too, 386 support is no more for the Linux kernel. [02:04] kimlaroux the more modern ones are [02:04] but this isn't modern [02:04] kako_: print cat /proc/cpuinfo [02:04] .... And that, is why you fail. [02:04] this is back when 128mb dedicated was top of the line [02:04] yeah [02:04] ..... OMFG [02:04] Ah [02:04] Fail [02:04] and ibm still made something other than servers [02:04] I thought it was a recent machine [02:04] it's a powerpc [02:04] .... *Snickers.* [02:04] so no [02:04] Basically if you want it to work, take a month off of work, compile LFS or Gentoo and pray. [02:04] imac is [02:05] LINKSWORD2: could you please stfu? [02:05] nah [02:05] .... What's your problem? [02:05] you [02:05] i'll just use it as a storage pc [02:05] Jeez, I didn't do anything to you. [02:05] That works. [02:05] and large display for irc [02:05] what a waste of a display [02:05] Yeah, I gotta back LINKSWORD2on this one. I haven't seen him be out of line at all. [02:06] maybe i can get an adapter and use it as a vga monitor [02:06] Maybe. [02:06] At some point the hardware is just too damn old. [02:06] yea [02:06] What's the display type, kako? [02:06] That's where my .45 comes into play. [02:06] I've laid waste to a few PCs that way. [02:06] .... That's usually when I start running, Obsidian1723... [02:06] heheheheh [02:06] the 20' 16:10 full hd display on my imac [02:07] but why waste bullets [02:07] 13-round mags x 12 mags, but it only takes 1 mag and it's a goner anyway. [02:07] why not just slam on them with your fist [02:07] Nice. So how would you adapt it to VGA? Isn't it built-in? [02:07] kako_: fun? [02:07] .... that'll work. :P [02:07] .... Wow. Huge list of update/upgrade packages in Muon. [02:08] well i did end up breaking the keyboard of a 500mhz ibook g3 by typing on it so yea that should do anythng [02:08] and yea the display is built in [02:08] .... Ouch? lol [02:08] but i'm thinking there has to be something that can convert it [02:08] ya use muon? [02:08] to be a monitor [02:08] .... BTW, I honestly wouldn't mind someone sending me a CD or DVD of Precise. [02:08] sure thing [02:08] what bit size [02:08] what distro [02:08] Muon comes default with Oneric. That's what I've been able to get working. [02:09] i have 10000s of dvds [02:09] try this... paste into .bash_aliases and save it, then source .bashrc to reload it, then just type sall and enter in aa terminal to do the string of commands. alias sall='sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get --yes -q --force-yes update && sudo youtube-dl -U && sudo apt-get check -y && sudo apt-get --yes -q --force-yes upgrade && sudo apt-get --yes -q --force-yes dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove -y && sudo apt-get clean -y && sudo [02:09] apt-get check -y' [02:09] all rws [02:09] I've got a 64-bit capable system, but prefer 32-bit distro's. [02:09] Holy crap, Obsidian1723.... [02:09] No need for muon. [02:09] kde i presume is your flavor of choice [02:09] If you want to be lazy, set a crontab :D [02:09] yeah [02:09] for DE anyway [02:09] Kubuntu 11.04, currently. 32-bit software. [02:10] 1q2.04.1LTS 64bit here, 16GB RAM. [02:10] I think I'm running KDE 4.1?.... (unsure) [02:10] so you'll want 32 bit kubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 [02:10] 4.9.4 here [02:11] LINKSWORD2: I have a lot of custom aliases and do other things like make my prompt turn a different color when at root. [02:11] I prefer the LTS versions. Not impressed with the minor changes between xx.04 and .10. [02:11] Yeah, the non LTS are less stable. [02:11] I think they're marked as STS's, (Short-Term Support) ?? [02:11] 6 months [02:11] i've never used non lts cause i usually install for the long term [02:12] supposedly at 14.04 LTS will go away and Ubuntu will become a rolling distro. [02:12] LINKSWORD2: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/914191/install-script/bash_aliases [02:12] Last I vchecked, I have something like 250 custom aliases? [02:12] what happened to 13.04 and 13.10? [02:12] When I use an STS, it's because it's the version I have available to me, and I upgrade to the nearest LTS pretty much immediately. [02:12] nt out yet [02:13] The 1st # is the year, the 2nd # is the month [02:13] .... WTF? Holy.... [02:13] then why bring up 14.04? [02:13] Obsidian1723: Mind explaining that link's contents? [02:13] So 13.10 is 20(13) October (10th month) [02:13] Just my aliases. You were shicked at the sall one. [02:14] * LINKSWORD2 *Head-desk.* [02:14] I brought up 14.04 to say that eventually there won't be a non-LTS and LTS, it will all be rolling, like CentOS is. [02:14] Haven't seen anything about that. [02:15]