| saltmiser | alright people | 00:20 |
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| saltmiser | is ubuntu phone open source or not | 00:20 |
| saltmiser | can I download the source code and build it for my phone? | 00:20 |
| k1l_ | see /topic | 00:21 |
| saltmiser | right | 00:21 |
| saltmiser | so | 00:22 |
| saltmiser | do we really think libreoffice is going to look correct on my 5 inch screen phone | 00:22 |
| saltmiser | and I don't mean initially but I mean ever..unless there is some way to automagically re-deal with the menus, I don't see it working out :/ | 00:22 |
| saltmiser | I'm not trolling, I realy like the idea of putting my own OS on the phone and ubuntu-phone is a step in the direction | 00:22 |
| k1l_ | ubuntu-phone is not a regular desktop, you know that? | 00:23 |
| saltmiser | guess not, I didn't know what else to expect | 00:23 |
| saltmiser | I can't just apt-get install whatever I want? | 00:23 |
| k1l_ | just see the informations mentioned in the site that is linked in the topic :) | 00:24 |
| saltmiser | lol ok sorry | 00:24 |
| saltmiser | a QML display hmm? | 00:25 |
| xsacha | saltmiser: great thing with qml is you can just make a different qml file for a different UI and load them depending on form factor detected (eg. ubuntu phone) if you wish | 00:47 |
| xsacha | all the actual code can be shared | 00:47 |
| saltmiser | so, firefox for example | 00:47 |
| saltmiser | has 3 QML's | 00:48 |
| saltmiser | 1 for docked | 00:48 |
| saltmiser | 1 for horizontal and 1 for verticle? | 00:48 |
| xsacha | horizontal and vertical would go in the same qml | 00:48 |
| saltmiser | or many for those in big screen and small screen | 00:48 |
| xsacha | well firefox doesn't even use Qt so it's a bad example | 00:48 |
| xsacha | big screen/small screen/horizontal/vertical/docked can all be in the same QML though | 00:49 |
| saltmiser | oh wow this is all with QT4? | 00:49 |
| xsacha | you'd just want a different layout for different form factors like phones | 00:49 |
| xsacha | or TVs | 00:49 |
| saltmiser | I can't find any information on what libraries and stuff all this ubuntu phone stuff is planning to use | 00:49 |
| saltmiser | like things that mobile developers would be interested in | 00:49 |
| xsacha | Qt can handle resolution-independence quite well. the problem is the UI needs to be suited to mobiles | 00:49 |
| saltmiser | right | 00:50 |
| xsacha | saltmiser: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ | 00:50 |
| xsacha | check out #1 for what libraries you need | 00:50 |
| saltmiser | ok so, when you write an app this way, can it run on normal ubuntu machines and the phones/ | 00:53 |
| saltmiser | I can definitely see this giving android a run for it's money | 00:56 |
| saltmiser | no more Java? | 00:56 |
| saltmiser | that's almost a good and bad thing | 00:56 |
| saltmiser | bad because all that cool stuff we had written for the JVM we can't use anymore | 00:56 |
| saltmiser | but good because it probably existed for C in the first place, and porting it to Dalvik specifically was annoying | 00:56 |
| Theorbo | Well, I've left Maemo/MeeGo/Harmattan/Mer/Nemo lot behind and now my sights are set on Ubuntu Phone | 01:26 |
| Theorbo | I hope it does not disappoint. | 01:26 |
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| * alec wants him an ubuntu phone | 03:24 | |
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| waqarr | hello everybody | 06:54 |
| waqarr | anybody here to help me about ubuntu phone | 06:54 |
| jussi | waqarr: just ask... | 06:55 |
| Guest95147 | what would you like to know? | 06:55 |
| waqarr | i want to install ubuntu phone in my samsung galaxy s2 | 06:55 |
| waqarr | how can i find the ubuntu phone img for my samsung phone | 06:56 |
| jussi | waqarr: there isnt one yet. | 06:56 |
| waqarr | when it will release for public? | 06:57 |
| Guest95147 | may be the end of february. | 06:58 |
| waqarr | is the any development version to download for testing and for developing apps for this | 07:02 |
| waqarr | ? | 07:05 |
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| Andy80 | bzoltan1, ping | 12:46 |
| Andy80 | bzoltan1, I'm ready if we want to start earlier :) | 12:46 |
| bzoltan1 | Andy80: good idea | 12:47 |
| dpm | hi bzoltan1, I don't know if you've seen it, but here's an interesting post from aquarius re: designing resolution-independent apps with the toolkit: https://plus.google.com/u/0/108243663090085262773/posts/CsJsMsvQKbv | 15:41 |
| Robbilie | nice one! | 15:43 |
| Robbilie | i think canonical should already release the source of these amazing rings, that would have spared me a lot of time xD | 15:44 |
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| dpm | Robbilie, we'll be releasing the code very soon, don't worry :) | 15:54 |
| wfire | I am still having trouble getting Qt Creator to even see the ubuntu components :( | 16:00 |
| wfire | seems like the same old fights again | 16:00 |
| wfire | from trying to get crap to work with Nokia | 16:00 |
| Robbilie | dpm wanna see smthng? or did you follow our earlier conversations? :) | 16:09 |
| Robbilie | dpm, http://jsfiddle.net/Robbilie/7CbDn/36/show/ | 16:20 |
| dpm | Robbilie, it looks pretty awesome, but could you give me a bit of context? I did not follow the previous conversation | 16:33 |
| Robbilie | well its just that i cant wait for ubu-phone so i did me a little web version myself <3 | 16:34 |
| ubuntubhoy | https://plus.google.com/u/0/100275307499530023476/posts/S9Y7k6Zd4wN - Cyanogen talks Ubuntu Phone | 16:34 |
| bzoltan1 | dpm: Cool, is not it :) | 16:34 |
| Robbilie | bzoltan1, what do you mean? | 16:34 |
| bzoltan1 | Robbilie: The resolution independence demo | 16:34 |
| Robbilie | mine?! | 16:35 |
| bzoltan1 | Robbilie: I have seen your stuff too and that is amazing work as well :) | 16:36 |
| Robbilie | ah now i now what you meant bzoltan1 xD that one is nice too :P | 16:36 |
| Robbilie | and thanks ;) | 16:36 |
| bzoltan1 | Robbilie: After we have released the QML toolkit I had time to think about how to extend the same visual concept and user experience to html5 apps. Your work is truly inspiring! | 16:38 |
| bzoltan1 | mhall119^ | 16:38 |
| Robbilie | bzoltan1, : when i started webdesign, i used to use jquery and ui toolkits and such... but then i moved over to only jquery and my own ui, not really responsive and jquery, well it had some nice features but when i looked at the loading time of my website i was so shoked that i stopped using it | 16:39 |
| mhall119 | bzoltan1: ? | 16:40 |
| Robbilie | now i completly used pure js and then i found out about responsive design :D | 16:40 |
| Robbilie | my true love <3 xD | 16:40 |
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| luvs-lightw8 | responsive design? | 17:24 |
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| luvs-lightw8 | ahh, nvm. | 17:26 |
| Robbilie | luvs-lightw8, what do you think bout responsive design? :D | 17:28 |
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| shaneo1 | is anyone thinking of working on a navigation app like google maps ....? | 19:56 |
| Robbilie | well there will be maps so why choose smthn different? | 19:58 |
| shaneo1 | im just asking as I work in the corparate business sector and always on the road, navigation is essential to me | 20:00 |
| Robbilie | well do you think having a "not default os" on your business phone a good idea... | 20:01 |
| Robbilie | ? | 20:01 |
| shaneo1 | what would you suggest then? | 20:03 |
| Robbilie | using a second phone for testing or at least to check out if the functionality is daily drivable :) | 20:03 |
| shaneo1 | thats what im getting at yes. | 20:04 |
| Robbilie | just to ensure that you dont get a fail in a situation you couldnt afford it, like you said ;) | 20:05 |
| shaneo1 | oh nevermind, forget I even asked. | 20:05 |
| Amey | Hi | 20:32 |
| Amey | I have a question regarding ubuntu-phone. Has cannonical released any security model papers or white papers revolving ubuntu phone. I want to contribute from early start stage regarding in ubuntu phone data protection model.. but I am not sure where should I start. | 20:33 |
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| slick4 | hi all! | 21:20 |
| slick4 | hey one question | 21:23 |
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