[06:29] 22:15:38 < ali1234> i'm serious btw. they have download links for "portable media devices" which is what get-iplayer fetches [06:30] ali1234: only by default. most people tend to get the HD streams via rtmpdump (or similar) which aren't the same as those 'mobile' files [07:47] mornin everyone [08:28] morning [08:52] morning dudes and dudettes [08:52] how goes things? [09:03] Snow gone: UK back to normal! [09:05] popey: None here now, the rain melted it all! [09:05] \o/ freesat hd now working on my Raspberry Pi :D [09:31] Morning all [09:32] kvarley: excellent, using xbmc? [09:32] Happy Monday, folks! :-D [09:36] morning everyone ! [09:36] Hello michelle_ ! How nice to see you again :) [09:36] morning knightwi1e :) === knightwi1e is now known as knightwise [10:15] hi guys, does anyone know of a good solution for easily scanning around 1000 photos? i have a scanner but scanning whole A4 page and cropping is tedious [10:16] get someone else to do it? [10:16] ~13p each [10:17] i notice there's a agfa photo scanner ~33 [10:18] popey, where for 13p? i';m seeing £75 for 1000 photos [10:18] http://www.iphotoscanning.co.uk/photo-scanning-service-1/scan-my-photographs/high-quality-photo-scanning.html [10:18] first hit from google, I'm sure shopping around yeilds better results [10:19] argh, maths fail 13p is more than 7.5p [10:20] good morning everyone. [10:23] morning.. one cheese and bacon toastie later on ... [10:23] yummy, [10:24] mayo too ! [10:24] brobostigon: Morning.. [10:24] morning [10:24] The weather is set to get alot worse BTW... [10:29] solarcloud_3srcn: the weather looks like it will be fine here, except for some patches of rain. [10:32] I found funny this morning, set for rain and wind today and temp around 5-10 degrees but on the way to work there were gritters on the roads?!?!? [10:33] what does everyone else do for scanning 100s of family photosthen? [10:33] Scan them and crop them, I just do it when I have some time [10:33] Over a few weeks/months [10:34] I put them on multiple cd's/ dvd's. [10:34] morn guys [10:34] hi there. [10:35] having a cron issue; 30 10 * * * . cd /opt/systems/chefbackup && knife exec chef_server_backup.rb results in cron failure: /bin/sh 1: .: cd: not found [10:36] what's the . for? [10:36] you can't 'source' cd, it's a shell built-in command [10:36] i just want it to run ' knife exec chef_server_backup ' from the /opt/systems/chefbackup folder [10:36] remove the . [10:37] kk [10:37] balls, now getting ERROR: ArgumentError: cannot sign the request without a client name [10:37] so the script fails [10:38] i need to load an environment I guess [10:38] when I run the command manually it runs ok... [10:39] when things run from cron they generally have next to no environment variables set [10:39] etc [10:40] ok - so how would you set the needed variables? [10:41] I would put the whole command into a shell script and call that from cron [10:41] then you can set what you like inside the script [10:42] +1 [10:42] hmm [10:42] i just need cron to load root's bash_profile env [10:44] i just need cron to load root's bash_profile env [10:44] oops apologies [10:47] would * 10 * * * . /root/.bash_profile && cd /opt/systems/chefbackup && knife exec chef_server_backup.rb [10:48] wow, just running apt-get update and it hit a load figure of 42 on my eeepc, [10:48] load my env from roots bash_profile? [10:48] lol brobostigon [10:48] bubu: it isnt funny, i am not lieing. [10:49] bubu: get replace that first * with a minute! [10:49] otherwise it runs every minute between 10 and 11 [10:49] ja the time was just an example [10:49] bubu: I'd move the bits you need into /root/.profile instead [10:50] I think that should work, at least... [10:51] mgdm why .profile out of interest? [10:56] bash_profile seems to have worked ok [10:56] there's .profile, .bash_profile and .bashrc which all run at different times [10:56] I forget which, though [11:04] Morning all [11:26] czajkowski: prod, morning you scary cow'd backdrop feeling person you ;) [11:27] ello [11:29] czajkowski: it took me ages to figure out that it was hippos teeth in a cows mouth :D tis a funny backdrop though [11:29] :) [11:42] Ello peeps :) [11:43] bigcalm: How do [11:44] davmor2: 2h 43m into holiday and I'm bored [11:44] Might play some HL in a bit [11:44] holiday! [11:44] Forgot that I had booked a week off to mirror Hayley's week off [11:45] bigcalm: Muhahahahaha that'll teach you! [11:46] * bigcalm looks at new SSD for his new machine [11:47] I was considering that yesterday, I wonder what the sweet-spot is for price vs capacity right now [11:48] Do I take Corey Goldberg's word that I'd have to do a fresh install rather than being able to move my current SSD over? [11:48] who? [11:48] popey: yeah, that's what I thought [11:49] I would probably just use clonezilla. [11:49] https://plus.google.com/u/1/113834766641843352499/posts/cRKKn5PhDsR [11:49] I used dd last time I moved HDs, but if I do get an SSD I'm just doing a clean install [11:54] popey: works for canonical in QA for U1 [11:54] bigcalm: drop the ssd in see what happen [12:08] davmor2: that's what I was thinking. But I'd like to have things ready to a degree [12:10] bigcalm: it shouldn't have an issue with new hardware the only thing a fresh install will really do is ensure nothing dies a death and if binary drivers have been previously installed that are different ie old box is Ati new box is nvidia etc [12:11] davmor2: thankfully it's nVidia in old and new. But I understand the point [12:11] I might leave this ssd in this machine as a backup [12:11] * popey hugs SSD [12:13] The new machine comes with a 1TB HDD. Shame it won't be used [12:15] desktop? [12:16] http://www.dell.com/uk/p/alienware-x51/pd?oc=d00and49&model_id=alienware-x51 [12:16] gosh [12:16] why is the 1TB not used? [12:17] stick it in a USB3 caddy? [12:17] use it for backups etc [12:18] That is a sensible idea [13:25] I have several spare drives, I seem to buy a new external caddy every couple months for various reasons [13:26] I made a point of getting one that supports eSATA this time, so accessing it should be nice and quick. === GentileBen is now known as SirCrispinTheJew [14:13] dwatkins, I had real issues with external caddies for a while [14:13] dwatkins, I think the power electronics on a lot of them are cheap and they fail [14:14] dwatkins, Also had drives fail due to physical shock ; since I went SSD both these problems have ended because they're shockproof and low-power [14:15] ah yes [14:16] I'm really liking my current caddy which has a 2.5" docking bay but also works externally [14:18] eSATA or USB [14:19] This one isn't as nice http://www.scan.co.uk/products/icybox-ib-266stusd-b-black-hdd-case-usb2-esata-for-25-sata-hard-drive-inc-35-docking-station [14:51] O.o my electric oven just went nuts and started spewing out smoke at about the same rate as a typical fog machine [14:55] which is the nice one, awilkins? [14:56] Can't see it anymore, it's a Silverstone [14:56] ah yes, good stuff [14:56] I just bought their 5.25" slot loading aluminium bay cover [14:57] This one : http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=932&num=1 [15:19] cool ta [16:27] AlanBell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1107866 look familiar ☺ [16:27] Ubuntu bug 1107866 in unity (Ubuntu) "Show window list when right clicking an icon in launcher - enables quick window switching" [Wishlist,Triaged] [16:36] is anyone getting 503 on sabdfl's blog? [16:36] popey: the reply to it sounds familiar too [16:36] how does one become a member of the design team? [16:36] maybe if we could get enough sensible people onto it, unity could be fixed? [16:37] can anyone think of a reason why I can't switch monitors until I get below the 5th icon down on the dash? [16:38] ooh, ooh, me, me I've just thought of why [16:38] different screen sizes - doh! [16:38] I'll go back to sleep now ;) [16:38] popey: that patch is gonna be cool :) [16:40] ali1234: ask jnick_tait ☺ [16:41] what does "ayatana design" team actually produce? [16:41] they have no blueprints and nothing in bzr [16:41] shouldn't there be a design document somewhere? [16:42] or is being an impenetrable roadblock to progress their only purpose? [16:42] its a method to allow the design team to track stuff [16:42] to work around the bug management in launchpad [16:43] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/design/upstream.html [16:43] powers that [16:44] so what does it mean when a bug is "fix commited" in ayatana design? [16:44] what is the fix commited to exactly? [16:45] presumably committed to the next release? :s [16:46] but ayatana design doesn't release anything [16:46] it is still marked as wishlist in unity [16:46] sorry, triaged [16:48] it's for managing their workflow [16:48] to indicate that design have signed off on bugs [16:50] holy... I just noticed one of my bugs in on the design bugs for ubuntu page [16:51] that's because it is auto generated [16:51] oh right [16:51] nice to see my bug is high priority though [16:51] it's the one where unity captures the superkey when you're using a vm or vnc [16:51] which is terribly frustrating [16:53] just disable super and alt in unity config [16:53] in ccsm [16:53] it's not like they do anything useful [16:53] ... [16:53] except open the dash [16:53] which I do all the time [16:53] but I don't want to open the dash in a vm or vnc [16:54] who even opens the dash? [16:54] i do, all the time [16:54] me too [16:54] well, when I open apps [16:54] there's no reason to do so [16:54] it's much more efficient to launch apps from a terminal window [16:54] it's the quickets way to open apps [16:54] nah [16:54] because terminal windows are open all the time [16:54] then you just pin them [16:55] I don't want to have to open a terminal window for every app I want to run [16:55] i find it faster to use dash [16:55] then you don't ever have to wait three seconds for the dash to open and then futz around in an annoying mess of amazon junk :) [16:55] super, ge, enter, \o/ gedit [16:55] [16:55] also: super -> text is less keystrokes than ctrl+alt+t -> text [16:55] popey: I use alt+f2 [16:55] also end up with terminals kicking around [16:55] that too [16:56] who doesn't have terminals open? [16:56] i have one [16:56] the one I am typing at you in [16:56] one is more than enough [16:56] popey: because I don't think "super" looks in original language (English) descriptions, only in localised ones [16:56] popey, I am surprised to see that www.ubuntu.com has no ipv6 support [16:56] I am not. [16:56] popey, surely you should be trend setting? [16:57] you == canonical [16:57] ;) [16:57] file a bug [16:57] popey :) [16:57] ideally I think people would like to see ipv6 repos, and I'm certain I've been a bug about that [16:58] but surely ipv6 can access the ipv4 address space? [16:58] bug 995137 [16:58] which means it's only cosumer ISPs that desperately need to make sure their ipv6 is up to snuff [16:58] bug 995137 in ubuntu-website-content "Add IPv6 support to sites" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995137 [17:01] bug 1108055 [17:01] bug 1108055 in Ubuntu "ubuntu.com has no ipv6 support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1108055 [17:13] daubers: was it you who once called 999 on the tv licencing guy who let himself into your flat...? [17:24] mgdm: Yup [17:24] mgdm: you mean 0118 999 881 999 119 725...3? [17:25] http://conversation.which.co.uk/technology/google-privacy-lawsuit-apple-safari-cookie-tracking-iphone-ipad-olswang/ [17:25] daubers: well played. I just got remindedof that earlier [17:26] mgdm: They don't like the question "How come the police need a warrent but you don't?" [17:26] heh [17:27] geez, why would he do that? surely his job isn't worth getting thrown in gaol for tresspassing for [17:27] * mgdm makes notes [17:27] gord: This was in halls [17:27] gord: Remember according to many, students aren't important and have no rights [17:28] they've tried to come in my house before because i don't have a licence, i've said no and they said okay [17:29] when I was in halls the enforcement was done by a janitor, who had the keys anyway, and would let themselves in and have a nose about and leave a note [17:29] there's a few bugs open for canonical sites not having ipv6; bug 241305 is 2008 [17:29] bug 241305 in Ubuntu Website "security.ubuntu.com not accessible in IPv6 (AAAA record missing in the DNS)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241305 [17:30] gord: They get grumpy with me every time. Specially when I send letters back to them asking them to prove to me that I recieve broadcast after recieving their threatening letters [17:30] ask them to use a detector van [17:30] :p [17:31] oooh home time! [17:31] tricorders and quantum fluctiations prove it! [17:31] i wish i had a business where i was allowed to send out really threatening letters to people to pay up or face fines [17:31] * daubers goes home [17:31] gord: take up patent trolling [17:32] or, become an actual troll under a bridge! === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [18:04] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21237254 [18:08] blimey [18:08] We'll get a King William IV (most likely) [18:09] can't see our queenie doing that [18:10] popey: did you need to enable a PPA for MTP to work properly? Or is it in today's Raring updates? [18:12] popey: I think she will but for Charles to turn it down and it move to William and Kate :) The are being groomed [18:12] davmor2: That will just lead to confusion though [18:12] "King William" "Which one?" [18:12] raring works [18:12] MartijnVdS: The numbers at the end will give it away [18:13] popey: what do you mean raring works? [18:13] 18:10:37 < MartijnVdS> popey: did you need to enable a PPA for MTP to work properly? Or is it in today's Raring updates? [18:15] popey: hm, ok.. doesn't seem to work for my GNexus [18:15] ah [18:15] I needed to reboot ;) [18:15] probably some old gvfsd lingering [18:22] Hm.. that made my my workspaces disappear too === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [19:29] ...What possessed me to try a real-time game of Singularity? Well, it should keep me occasionally-occupied for the next N years, I suppose. === funkyHat_ is now known as funkyHat [19:53] MartijnVdS: did it work post reboot? [20:24] davmor2: yes but rhythmbox doesn't transcode flac -> mp3 :( [20:25] davmor2: it also picks up too many files (like the "Turn left" prompts from Google Navigation) [20:27] great, Chrome is confused again [20:57] Went to sleep with the heating on ..... woke up 2 hours later and thought I had died !! [21:05] solarcloud_3srcn: understandable, it is quite warm in hell === SirCrispinTheJew is now known as RaycisCharles [21:56] hi all. quick question, how do i launch programs with unity? like ones which i know are in bin but don't have a .desktop file [21:59] like in crunchbang you can use dmenu or the quick launcher [22:00] ubuntu-uk told me. alt+f2. thanks === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte