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aeon-ltdsaltmiser: openbox can look great00:00
saltmisernamesJay please00:00
k1l_Joe: if winXP is slow better go for Lubuntu00:00
saltmiseraeon-ltd, it can, I'm talking out of the box00:00
JoeIf I like Xubunutu and wish to continue my knowledge on the Linux OS, I will install a VM on my Windows Computer and run Ubunutu in that00:00
C4zz1dy21 f florida asl00:00
C4zz1dylol00:00
JoeButchered that haha00:00
k1l_!ot | namesJay C4zz1dy saltmiser00:00
ubottunamesJay C4zz1dy saltmiser: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:00
saltmiserJoe, learning Ubuntu is not learning Linux00:00
Joe*Xubuntu00:00
aeon-ltdsaltmiser: customization is part of learning,.00:00
JoeDoes that sound like a reasonable route to take?00:00
C4zz1dy^Yes00:00
aeon-ltdyes00:00
saltmiserJoe, Xubuntu all the way. Avoid real ubuntu at all costs imo00:01
saltmiseravoid lubuntu in my opinion, as well.00:01
saltmiseras far as a complete desktop environment goes, it is not00:01
JoeHmm so if I am to avoid Ubuntu, when I wish to install a VM on my Windows, which OS should I install?00:01
saltmiserwell stay with Xubuntu00:01
namesJaySeriously am lookin to pass an hr before i hit the gym...which channel has lotta women above 30 ?lol00:02
saltmiserbut if you want to learn Linux (and not Ubuntu) you'll have to start playing with the real toys, like Arch, FreeBSD and gentoo00:02
JoeSo the VM is not necesarry?00:02
k1l_saltmiser: xubuntu is a big desktop. when winxp is slow its not a pleasure to use xfce at all00:02
saltmiserVM is not necessary00:02
aeon-ltdsaltmiser: i wouldn't choose DEs for 'lightness', they pull in more dependencies than necessary00:02
JoeOkay I will just run Xubuntu on an old tower for now. It is likely I will be back! Thank you for all the assistance!00:02
k1l_namesJay: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support please00:02
C4zz1dynamesJay..what made you think #ubuntu would be lotta women above 3000:02
saltmiserlmfao00:03
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C4zz1dyGood luck Joe!00:03
saltmiserk1l_, idk I run XFCE on my Pentium 300:03
saltmiserworks great00:03
saltmiser512mb ram00:03
namesJayI dont know..took a chance besides someone said there are lotta women here00:04
namesJayLol00:04
saltmiserI think you got played like a mofo00:04
saltmiserso where can I have some serious discussion on virtualbox vs vmware00:05
saltmiserconsidering both these platforms run on ubuntu, here might be ag ood place00:05
saltmiserI have a lot I want to vent about00:05
jarray52Has anyone used USB monitors with Ubuntu?00:05
saltmiserusb what?00:05
escott!ot | saltmiser00:05
ubottusaltmiser: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:05
k1l_saltmiser: #ubuntu-discuss maybe?00:05
namesJayOk thanks00:06
C4zz1dybrb guys!00:08
MrKittyHi, what command do I run to start the GUI?00:10
craigbass1976I followed these directions to fix someone's borked upgrade (they tried going to 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday) and I think it tok, but now 'm stuck at initramfs.00:10
k1l_MrKitty: start the dm like "lightdm"00:10
MrKittyThank you :300:10
MrKittyIt worked00:10
MrKitty:D00:10
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Matriks404anyone tested cs beta for linux?00:17
aeon-ltdMatriks404: csgo? are they even running a test?00:20
nikowzlist00:21
ClientAliveI googled "dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04" and I'm seeing what looks like a lot of challenges with this. Is there any advice before I make a decision about this? Truth is: I would prefer an LTS version but I would also prefer ubuntu as UEFI boot. Am I correct in assuming 12.10 is UEFI but 12.04 is not? Any advice what my best option is?00:21
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craigbass1976ClientAlive, I've had pretty good luck since dapper sticking withthe LTS versions.00:23
ClientAlivecraigbass1976: thx for the input man00:23
craigbass1976ClientAlive, but I'd already quit dual booting by then, so I'm only half helpful I guess00:23
icewhackrTrying to get Ubuntu for Intel i73820 x64.  Download sez for AMD64.  Is this OK to use?  Or another Intel64 download  . . . ?00:23
ClientAliveI wonder if I can somehow have my cake and eat it too? (ie: uefi and lts in the same release of ubuntu)00:23
escottClientAlive, disable secure boot. make sure you are booting your isntall media in efi mode.00:24
aeon-ltdicewhackr: that just means it's 64bit00:24
k1l_icewhackr: its called amd64 but its for intel and amd00:24
escottClientAlive, and you shouldnt have any major issues with 12.04 and uefi provided you disable secure boot00:25
escottClientAlive, if it picks the wrong bootloader you can just chroot in and install grub-efi00:25
icewhackrOK - Thnx - don't worry about the AMD name & just use on Intel as well.00:25
craigbass1976ClientAlive, down the road (after 14.2 maybe?  Anyone chime in) I don't think there will be the current LTS and "slightly less stable but still way better than Windows" scenario anymore.00:26
ClientAliveescott: cool. But now, about the time 12.04 came out I tried a uefi install on my desktop machine and it-was-a-horrrrorrrr-show. I ended up having to install in bios boot to get a working install. Have those issue been worked out? What can I expect when I try to do a uefi ubuntu install nowadays? Anything to watch out for?00:26
escottClientAlive, why was it a horror show00:27
craigbass1976I followed these directions to fix someone's borked upgrade (they tried going to 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday) and I think it tok, but now 'm stuck at initramfs.  I have already been in the fs (just regular mounting from a livecd and chroot fom teh cd) and so I don't think it's a bad drive.  Also, there's no ntfs partition involved elsewhere on the drive.00:27
ClientAliveescott: It has been so long ago now that I don't recall the details (though I probalby have some scraps of paper around here with notes on them). All I rember is it was feeling very frustrated, not being able to get it to install correctly (or at all), spending a lot of time (as in a couple weeks) reaching out for help, and ultimately not being able to do it.00:28
escottClientAlive, well efi is your only option if you want to dual boot00:29
escottso i would just go ahead and get started00:29
escottcraigbass1976, "these directions" what directions?00:30
craigbass1976escott, oops.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158109900:30
ClientAliveescott: (or anyone) - If I could have my DREAM UBUNTU - the cat's meaw - it would boot using boot stub where it just directly boots the kernel as an efi image. What do you think about that? Is it doable? How costly would that be (time, frustration level, etc)?00:31
escottcraigbass1976, well if you are in the initramfs then grub is working00:31
escottClientAlive, absolutely doable. i believe it requires a patched kernel. i dont believe those patches are in ubuntu kernel00:32
escottClientAlive, and honestly i think it will never be a particularly popular way of booting the system. people like the menus, people like the shim support for secure boot, and im wary of putting the kernel on a fat partition00:32
ClientAliveescott: so what is the basic outline of doing something like that? (my guess? - fresh install of ubuntu desktop, then ?????)00:33
escottClientAlive, you would be compiling your own kernel and directly placing it into the efi partition. i can't say more about how its done as I dont know much about it00:33
ClientAliveescott: I had not considered that notion before (putting the kernel on a fat partition). What, and defragging?00:34
ClientAliveescott: I see  :)00:34
craigbass1976escott, I figured.  But how to folks normally get past initramfs when it's not bad drive or ntfs related?  I'm about to go down this path: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1877789&page=200:34
Nerkshankplease help http://pastebin.com/8ehSwXGW00:35
escottcraigbass1976, it should give you some indication of why you are in the initramfs00:36
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escottcraigbass1976, check /proc/cmdline to see what you told the kernel the root filesystem was and see if you can find that filesystem with blkid00:37
Nerkshankhttp://pastebin.com/8ehSwXGW need help upgrading00:38
Nerkshankanyone?00:38
D-coyNerkshank, m4v he know00:39
Nerkshankm4vn yt?00:40
zygopteraNerkshank >> that looks straightforward00:40
Nerkshanknot to me lol...00:40
Nerkshankm4v, u there?00:40
zygopteraNerkshank >> use apt-cdrom instead of apt-get update00:41
Nerkshankso do i need to install it to a cdrom and just cant update?00:41
zygopteraNerkshank >> it thinks it's on cdrom already and that it could use it if you used the apt-cdrom command00:43
Nerkshankbut no cdrom is installed00:43
zygopteraNerkshank >> you have no optical drive of any kind?00:44
escottNerkshank, did you modify any files in /etc/apt prior to this00:45
Nerkshankyes i do but the cd doesnt have the 12.xx update on it do i need to add a new repositry or something?00:45
Nerkshankno this is fresh install00:45
Nerkshanktrying to do software update and it keeps failing00:46
zygopteraNerkshank >> was there a disc in the drive when you attempted to update?00:46
Nerkshankno00:46
zygopteraNerkshank >> for some reason it is trying to do an update from disc00:47
k1l_comment the cd-repo in the sources.list?00:48
k1l_or disable it in the gui.00:48
zygopteraNerkshank >> It might be just as simple to burn a disc with the update00:48
Nerkshankya... ill try resarting maybe00:49
InFlamesanyone ever seen a weird issue where your desktop environment seems duplicated? say in cinnamon my applet bar is there 6 times?00:49
Nerkshankmint sucks00:49
InFlamesit's in ubuntu00:49
k1l_Nerkshank: just take a look int the settings if the cd-rom is checked as an update ressource00:49
InFlamesbut it did it with any de00:49
zygopteraNerkshank >> you are using mint?00:49
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k1l_InFlames: for cinnamon support see the mint support since it is not in the ubuntu repos:00:50
k1l_!mint | InFlames00:50
ubottuInFlames: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org00:50
InFlamesi don't need cinnamon support00:50
InFlamesthe issue was xorg00:50
InFlamesi am simply stating the de was cinnamon, that issue is now fixed00:50
InFlamesbut to fix it i deleted my xorg.conf (i have a backup) and restarted x00:51
LiThiuME3Anyone here have experience with Symlink ?00:51
InFlamesnow xorg.conf never came back?00:51
zygopteraMint's packages sound yummy00:51
k1l_InFlames: the xorg.conf is not needed00:51
craigbass1976escott, a way around  this whole thing would be if I could dump out some mysql databases somehow from a livecd.  Ever heard of anyone doing that?00:51
InFlamesi assumed that00:51
k1l_InFlames: if no xorg.conf is there it uses autodetect00:51
InFlamesmy issue is really with setting up dual monitors00:51
escottcraigbass1976, sure. just get the mysql client packages installed in the livecd00:51
InFlamesright now it can see both, but they only work when mirrored00:52
InFlamesif i try to separate them and hit apply, it errors00:52
InFlamesi can show you a few of the errors if you like00:52
craigbass1976escott, and then choot?00:52
howl`part00:52
howl`part00:52
escottcraigbass1976, sure if the system is functional you could chroot thats even easier00:53
aeon-ltdhowl`: uhh '/'?00:53
zygopteraInFlames >> the minute you mentioned mint, you lost most chance of getting your question answered here00:53
escottLiThiuME3, ?00:53
Nerkshankzygoptera, xubuntu00:53
craigbass1976escott, are you saying I could chroot to /mnt (if I mount the existing install there) and run mysql without doing anything else?00:54
InFlameszygoptera, i never mentioned mint, only cinnamon00:54
escottcraigbass1976, if you have working binaries and the same machine architecture yes00:54
zygopteraInFlames >> same thing00:54
InFlamesagree to disagree00:54
InFlamesanyhow, the issue is really with multiple monitors00:55
InFlamesit was just a weird occurance00:55
InFlameswondered what causes it00:55
zygopteraInFlames >> sauing cinnamon gave people the idea you were using mint00:55
InFlamesi understand that00:55
InFlamesand don't really see that as a problem00:55
InFlamesi'm here for help, not a flame war00:56
InFlamesi simply prefer cinnamon over unity00:56
InFlamesalthough a combination of the two would be my favorite00:56
InFlamesyou don't happen to know a way i could use a launcher on the left like unity has outside of unity, do you?00:57
zygopteraInFlames >> then say you are using cinnamon in ubuntu a few times and maybe the other people heard will help you00:57
k1l_InFlames: when you are using cinnamon you should really ask the mint support, since most people here dont know what is going on and what issue is not produced by the cinnamon desktop00:57
strawman-qcls00:57
InFlamesmy question wasn't related to cinnamon, i shouldn't have mentioned it00:57
secleinteerhi, is there an up-to-date ppa for eclipse? all i could find was one with v3.400:58
InFlamesmy issue is with multiple monitors and detecting the resolutions00:58
InFlamesi will even switch to unity if that helps solve it right now00:58
k1l_InFlames: when it comes to display multimonitor the desktop used is an important factor00:58
InFlamesthe gpu is a radeon hd 545000:58
k1l_smth can work for unity and fail for cinnamon or other way around.00:58
InFlameswell i can switch to unity and we can see if it's solvable there00:59
InFlamesi am fine with whatever makes it easy00:59
zygopteraInFlames >> you are trying to detect the monitor's supported resilutions?00:59
InFlamesyes00:59
InFlamesi get some strange errors about min and max sizes when i try to apply settings00:59
InFlamesvia the settings window in ubuntu00:59
zygopteraInFlames >> maybe if you manually specify a resolution, and hope you are right?01:00
InFlamesmanually via xorg.conf?01:00
zygopterayes01:00
InFlamesthat has been a nightmare01:01
InFlamesi suppose i could put only the monitor's resolution setting in there and try?01:01
InFlameswould that work?01:01
InFlamesi mean would x accept that01:01
zygopterausually01:01
InFlamesi'll switch desktops, try that and come back01:02
virusuyhowdy y'all01:10
Busiim looking for someone who might be able to help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1578521/ im running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on a hosted dedicated server and can't seems to find a fix for it.01:10
escottBusi, what are the permissions on /etc/sudoer01:11
escotts01:11
jribBusi: was it always like this?01:11
Busiescott im kinda noobie to ubuntu and in general shell access, so how is it i see the permissions?01:11
Busino it happen within the last hour.01:12
jribBusi: ls -l /etc/sudoers01:12
jribBusi: well what were you doing before it happened?01:12
Busi4 -r--r----- 1 root root 750 Jan 27 19:44 /etc/sudoers01:13
Busicreated a new user account.01:13
jribBusi: what's the "4"?01:13
Busino idea, it was in the output of ls -l /etc/sudoers01:14
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Busiohh or not forget the 4 :)01:14
escottBusi, did you create that user in your current session01:14
escottBusi, if so can you paste your history01:15
Busino, in a other session.01:15
escottBusi, can you verify you are a member of sudo or admin in "groups"01:15
escottBusi, although that should give a different error01:15
Busiwith groups command it only outputs root01:16
Busiand with "groups root" it gives me root : root01:16
jribBusi: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo01:16
Busi-rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 71288 May 31 2012 /usr/bin/sudo01:16
escottBusi, why would you sudo when you are already root01:16
escottBusi, "whoami" and "id"01:17
Busiand the /usr/bin/sudo is in red, im more and less new to shell access01:17
escottBusi, red because it is setuid01:17
Busiwhoami is root and guid, gid and groups are 0(root)01:17
escottBusi, well the error is strange but you are root01:18
escottso no need to sudo01:18
jribBusi: ls -ld / /etc01:18
jribyes, error is weird...01:18
Busidrwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Jan 25 19:30 /01:18
Busidrwx------ 110 root root 4096 Jan 27 19:36 /etc01:18
JoeIf I were to boot from a USB with the iso of Ubuntu, it offers me an option to test and not install Ubuntu, correct?01:19
escottJoe, yes01:19
jribescott: the permissions on /etc seem a bit odd but I still don't see why sudo would throw that error01:19
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kantlivelongany idea why mdraid boots with /dev/md/0 then switches to /dev/md0??01:20
Guest29151I'm stuck at an initramfs prompt.  Nothing that I know of is wrong with the drive, and I don't see any solutions so far on the forums.  I'm currently booted to a 12.04 xubuntu livecd, but the system is regular ubuntu01:20
jribBusi: pastebin output of « mount » just for fun01:21
kantlivelongGuest29151: it gives no info?01:21
Busi« mount » or « mount » just for fun ?01:21
Guest29151not that I know of.  (intramfs)  I'm going to try fsck just in case, but was wondering what else anyone thought.01:22
jribBusi: "mount" without the quotes01:22
kantlivelongGuest29151: try fsck first01:22
kantlivelongGuest29151: check logs as well01:22
escottjrib, yes /etc has to be 755 otherwise the user cannot read passwd01:22
Busihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1578553/01:23
jribBusi: is there a reason /etc has strange permissions?01:24
Businot that i know of, didn't change it01:24
jribBusi: are you even able to login as another user?01:25
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AdieWOOOOOOOO INCEST!01:25
alexhairymanYEAH01:26
* Adie high fives01:26
* alexhairyman five highs01:26
genoobiehey all'01:27
AdieSup bbgrl01:27
genoobiedoes ubuntu have a text install?01:27
jribgenoobie: there's minimal install and server install that you can use01:27
jribgenoobie: what ubuntu version were you thinking of installing?01:28
Busijrib nope, can't seems to be able to login with an other user.01:28
genoobiewell I am in the process of install lubuntu - alternate01:28
jribBusi: I suggest changing the permissions on /etc back to theird default with « chmod 755 /etc ».  You don't remember running any chmod commands?01:29
Busithe only chmod i have done is 750 on www folder "cmod 750 /var/www"01:30
Busichmod*01:30
Busibut have done chmod 755 /etc now.01:31
jribBusi: what was the sudo command you were trying when you got the error you pastebinned?01:31
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Busia simple sudo adduser01:32
jribBusi: ok try that again01:32
Busiokay that works now. wow thanks a lot01:32
Guest29151kantlivelong, gah... fsck /dev/sda2 gives me fsck: fsck.linux_raid_member: not found      fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.linux_raid_member for /dev/sda201:32
agrestringeregot a quick question, is there a way to reduce the amount of video memory that Compiz uses, are there quality settings?01:33
kantlivelongGuest29151: what partition type is it01:33
Guest29151kantlivelong, ext401:34
kantlivelongGuest29151: try fsck.ext4 /dev/sda201:34
carlom61anyone with 12.10+Nvidia Prop drivers installed &no issues with unity?01:36
Guest29151kantlivelong, mucha bettah.  /dev/sda2: clean, 357751/9281536 files, 17706947/37109232 blocks      So what could be giving me the initramfs grief?01:37
zygopteracarlom61, there must be someone in the world, but if they had no problem they are less likely to come here to say it01:37
kantlivelongGuest29151: anything in /var/log/messages?01:37
wjtaylor_I can't click on desktop icons or icons in nautilus (icon and compact view don't work. List view allows me to click though.)01:38
lwizardlokay my nephew had a problem with updating his system today and decided to hard power off the system and now his system won't boot. this is what it shows http://wizardsarcade.com/ComputerScreen.jpg01:39
zygopteracarlom61 >> there is no rule saying you must use unity if it is causing you problems, there are other options01:39
carlom61I know but I got stuck with forums and guides and still when I install drivers from NVIDIA I get unity disappear01:39
Guest29151The last date of messages was 1-13.  Thismake's no sense, as I thought the fellw who owns this box just hosed it yesterday...01:39
carlom61zygoptera>I know but what if I wanna install NVIDIA drivers without breaking anything?01:40
zygopteracarlom61 >> there is xfce (xubuntu) kde (kubuntu) lubuntu (lxde)01:40
Nerkshanklater bitches01:40
Nerkshankoh i got question: doe xubuntu support compiz01:41
zygopteraxfce does load compiz01:41
carlom61nm01:41
lwizardlanyone know what it will take to fix the system? I told him to try the recovery mode and then drop to shell and run the commcand it gives. but it errors and says read only file system01:41
AdieWOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST!01:42
kc5fwk_can anyone advise me on how to get streaming video to work?  I tried installing flash.  I either did it wrong or it did not work?01:43
mfilipeis there any software for Ubuntu to birthday reminder?01:43
zygopteralwizardl >> boot the live cd and run fsck from there01:43
lwizardlk01:43
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zygopteralwizardl >> it is very likely the hard power off corrupted the filesystem01:44
lwizardlthat was what i thought. he said it was stuck on doing the update on libc.bin if i remember correctly01:45
zygopteralwizardl >> most likely there were a few hundred files still open when it lost power01:45
kc5fwk_I am having trouble getting flash related video to work.  can anyone help with this, please?01:47
lwizardlk i'll try that when he gets here and if that don't fix i'll be back01:47
aeon-ltdif i clone the entire disk (/dev/sda to /dev/sdb) will i need to copy the mbr over, or will it take everything over to the new disk?01:47
aposkc5fwk_,  install totoem and make sure you have totem and flash browser plugin?01:47
kc5fwk_I am a noob with Linux, help please01:48
aposaeon-ltd,  it depends on what you use to clone it with01:48
zygopteraaeon-ltd >> if you use dd to clone it all, you will get the mbr01:48
escottaeon-ltd, that will bring over the mbr, but that may or may not be bootable01:48
kc5fwk_ok where can I get these programs, please?01:48
bloodriverhello! just a general command and question.  is it me or has the last two version of ubuntu seem a bit unstable?  i keep getting 'internal errors' and the odd freeze every couple of days.  some are easily identified and corrected but why?01:49
john38Anybody know a good program for converting mpg to wmv files01:49
aeon-ltdescott: more specific on the bootable part please?01:49
zygopteraaeon-ltd >> if you start at sector and go to the end, you will get the partition table and it should be bootable01:49
aeon-ltdzygoptera: ok01:49
zygopteraat sector 101:50
zygopterathough dd calls sector 1 sector zero01:50
efktjohn38: mencoder or one of it's frontends01:50
aposkc5fwk_,  go to your launcher menu and open the terminal -> type "sudo apt-get install adobe-flash && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin && sudo apt-get install totem" (without the quotes)01:51
aeon-ltdzygoptera: will i need to do this from a live environment or is it safe to just boot into the existing install, log in as root and start dd-ing?01:51
john38efkt, how do you run it?01:51
zygopteraaeon-ltd >> you must use the live cd. linux can not be running when you copy it, or the copy will think it was not shut down properly01:51
aeon-ltdzygoptera: ok01:52
kc5fwk_thank you apos VERY much.  I truely appreciate the response.01:52
aposaeon-ltd,  check out http://redobackup.org/01:52
aeon-ltdapos: sounds like clonezilla01:53
aposkc5fwk_,  paste that long command into a terminal and you should be good to go01:53
aeon-ltdthanks for the replies people01:53
efktjohn38: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MEncoder should get you started. Please consult the mencoder wiki for specifics. It's a very versatile program so it has a lot of options01:53
john38efkt, thanks01:54
zygopteraaeon-ltd >> I've cloned linuix system disks many times with dd01:54
zygopteraaeon-ltd >> Though I use scsi, which may or may not make a difference01:54
kc5fwk_apos I did as you suggested and it can't find adobe flash.  I thought I installed it.  I'll try to get it.  thank you01:55
escottaeon-ltd, just that it may or may not be bootable depending on where grub is looking and how the boot setup is configured01:55
aposthen remove that part of the command. totem is the most important part01:55
escottaeon-ltd, if you are doing a cross-disk boot for instance...01:55
aeon-ltdescott: ahh ok ,then i assume i'll need to modify the boot line to the right /dev/sdx01:56
bloodriver hello! just a general command and question.  is it me or has the last two version of ubuntu seem a bit unstable?  i keep getting 'internal errors' and the odd freeze every couple of days.  anyone else?01:57
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shawnHey01:57
apos12.10 had a few issues at first, systems are running great, nothing to complain about01:58
shawnIs the the support chat?01:58
aposyes this is ubuntu support01:58
DmnchildIs it possible to change the software raid to 0 after its already been set to 1? For some reason every time I install an OS on OVH.com manager, it keeps pushing 1, even if I manually choose 0.01:58
piranahapos nope this is i heart bacon dot com :P01:58
escottDmnchild, no01:58
aposdoes your raid controller support raid0?01:58
shawnIm having problems with my hard drive if someone can help please01:58
DmnchildGrr. thanks. ticket time, find out why they are pushing that heh01:58
DmnchildIt gives me the option so guessing so. Though, it is saying its soft raid, not hardware based01:59
DmnchildGuessing LVM or whatever that on people use is, not sure.01:59
bloodriverthen it's me?  10.10 was a great, but since 12.04 the internal error pop-up are too frequent...I more up to 12.10 hoping to avoid them...but the popups are as common.  i have fixed some.02:01
escottbloodriver, what desktop are you using02:01
bloodriverwas were the issues...and where (url) can i go02:01
bloodriver12.1002:01
bloodrivergnome02:02
shawnLinux says 2.0TB file system but when I try and install something it says im out of space02:02
escottbloodriver, gnome not unity?02:02
bloodrivergnome never unity02:02
bloodriver:P02:02
escottbloodriver, try plain debian, their gnome is cleaner02:03
escottshawn, what is the output of "df -h"02:03
shawnim sorry im a noob at this. how do i find that out?02:03
satanxxanyone one can telll me if there is a hardwaremanage for xubuntu?02:03
escottshawn, open a terminal. type "df -h" and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com02:03
bloodriverlike debian...but now that i have set up 12.10 i'll hang in...but just thought i'd quiz the crowd and see if i was doing sumin' wrong02:04
cubwhat video card works best with unity02:04
shawni typed "df -h" said command not found02:05
apossounds like a bad upgrade bloodriver. have you tried a clean install?02:05
aposdid you remove the quotes?02:05
shawnYes i did02:05
escottshawn, dont02:05
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shawnstill says the samething02:06
john38efkt, do you happen to know the output format for wmv eg....-ovc lavc but for wmv?02:06
bloodrivernot lazy...just more back from Opensuse (very nice) but wanted easier access to Netfilx, Spotify, etc.    All my installs are clean.02:06
escottbloodriver, for netlfix try windows02:07
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escottshawn, can you copy paste the full terminal session or send a screenshot02:08
escott!paste | shawn02:08
ubottushawn: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:08
plwertI just filled out a pdf form with evince, and saved it to ~/foo.pdf. Opening it in evince shows the data that I put in, but opening it in acrobat reader only shows an empty form. What gives?02:08
shawnshawn@shawn-desktop:~$ df-h02:08
shawndf-h: command not found02:08
shawnshawn@shawn-desktop:~$ df-h paste.ubuntu.com02:08
shawndf-h: command not found02:08
shawnshawn@shawn-desktop:~$ "df -h"02:08
shawndf -h: command not found02:08
FloodBot1shawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:08
karpuragauramphantom02:08
shawnshawn@shawn-desktop:~$ "df -h" paste.ubuntu.com02:08
escottshawn, sp a ces areim port ant02:08
escottshawn, "df -h"02:08
bloodrivernot complain, per se, but if Debian has a 'cleaner' gnome, maybe i'll just knock out the errors as they come.  Dual boot w/Win7...but I'm on Linux more often...02:09
kc5fwk_apos, I believe I have to update my Linux and Firefox.  I'll have to read up and figure that out.  Thank you for the help.02:09
k1l_bloodriver: the errors appear because the setting was changed to display every error and ask to report it02:09
bloodriverohh!02:09
plwertlooks like I'm not the only one who's had his tax forms mangled by evince: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+bug/89732202:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 897322 in poppler (Ubuntu Precise) "PDF saved forms are not compatible with Adobe Reader" [High,Triaged]02:09
jwrigley_hey, having trouble installing ubuntu... parted/gparted won't recognize my partition table02:09
k1l_bloodriver: so the errors just appear nowadays. its not that they got more02:09
shawni am using space lol02:09
efktjohn38: something akin to this: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-convert-avi-to-wmv-by-mencoder - But some more googling might be required :)02:10
bloodriverwell then, i'm an avid supporter02:10
bloodriver:)02:10
jwrigley_I've pasted it here: http://pastebin.com/tV5BMpHc02:10
karpuragauramHello02:10
bloodriverthat makes sense...thanks for the heads up guys!02:11
bloodriveri can sleep now02:11
escottshawn, no you aren't you did "df-h" and "df-h paste.ubuntu.com" then you did ""df -h"" with the quotes included02:11
escottshawn, so do the 4th variant you havent yet done02:11
escottwith the space without the quotes02:12
shawnshawn@shawn-desktop:~$ df -h02:12
shawnFilesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on02:12
shawn/dev/sda1        62G   50G  8.6G  86% /02:12
shawnudev            5.9G  4.0K  5.9G   1% /dev02:12
shawntmpfs           2.4G  960K  2.4G   1% /run02:12
FloodBot1shawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:12
shawnnone            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock02:12
escottshawn, please listen to the bot and use paste.ubuntu.com02:12
shawnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1578656/ here it is02:13
kc5fwk_can anyone direct me to a current version of Ubuntu, please?02:13
escottshawn, i dont see any 2TB filesystem anwhere02:13
escottanywhere02:13
escottkc5fwk_, http://www.ubuntu.com02:14
kc5fwk_TYVM escott02:15
fathttp://leaguerpgifts.com/ref/?id=itz70xm4nb02:15
shawnhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1578659/02:16
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escottshawn, the space on /dev/sdb1 isn't going to help you if you have to install programs02:17
shawnSo how do i fix this issue i wanna be able to use most of the 2TB to download and install games and such02:18
escottshawn, that disk is mounted to /media/UUID programs you install put files in /usr02:18
escottshawn, you can use baobob to identify where you are using disk space and try to mount some of those folders onto the other disk02:18
escottshawn, for instance you might have /usr/share/games on another disk or /home on another disk02:19
escott!home | shawn02:19
ubottushawn: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving02:19
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shawnso if i use the usr folder in the 2.0 TB filesystem it will allow me to use that 1TB that is availiable?02:20
escottshawn, you cannot put /usr on another disk02:20
wonderlessgirlcan anyone help me, nobodys been able to get anywhere for 5 days, every tim i install ubuntu and try to install anything or update or anything i get a read only file system error, 5 days and nobodys been ble to help, we have ruled out hardware faults, and dont just say ubuntu isnt for you02:20
shawnI just wanna be able to use the full 2TB i don't really care about moving stuff02:21
dw-mic issue.. can record in audacity by selecting the hw input. when i load pavucontrol i see the levels of the input moving up and down for a short time then it stops moving.  nothing can be heard through pulseaudio, i.e. skype.. ideas ?02:21
wonderlessgirlehh,,02:21
wonderlessgirlgoogle it02:22
wonderlessgirlwhy would you ask here without googling it02:22
escottwonderlessgirl, please don't tell people to "google it"02:22
k1lwonderlessgirl: do you have this issue right now?02:22
wonderlessgirlwell thats a very easy thing to find with google02:22
wonderlessgirlyes kil, my old beloved friend, i do02:22
wonderlessgirlim on the live usb02:22
zygopterawonderlessgirl >> you deserve better than ubuntu02:22
waveformeeyyooo02:23
wonderlessgirlwhat is that supposed to mean02:23
waveformsoo looks like the freezing and kernel panics were related to Ram power settings02:23
zygopterawonderlessgirl >> ubuntu is problems for most of the people attempting to use it02:23
shawnso how do i fix it? sorry im so confused02:23
krywkHi guys, I'm having a bit of a problem with One Late Night.02:24
escott!home | shawn follow this for $HOME02:24
ubottushawn follow this for $HOME: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving02:24
wonderlessgirland nobody can help me get it to work02:24
zygopterawonderlessgirl >> that's because it's heavily flawed02:24
GalaxorI am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 from a usb cdrom drive.  When I bootup from the cd using legacy bios, it boots up just fine.  When I bootup using uefi, I get an unadorned grub screen and when I boot, it goes to a black screen and doesn't attempt to read anything from the CD.02:24
wonderlessgirlwhat  should i used then02:24
escottshawn, if there are other folders you would like to do the same thing for please ask in channel first to make sure it is a folder you can safely move to another disk02:24
GalaxorI need to boot to uefi in order to install onto my 3TB drive.02:24
GalaxorI also tried editing the grub boot line and adding nomodeset.  No luck.  Same behavior.02:25
wonderlessgirluse the usb drive then x)02:25
aposescott,  why can you not put /usr on a diff disk? i've got an edubuntu 12.04.1 box that has 10gb /, 20 gb /usr and 30gb /home and it runs beatifully for a druon900 w/ 640 RAM02:25
elkyzygoptera, why are you here?02:25
escottwonderlessgirl, since you claim to know an answer to dw-'s problem could you please tell him the answer02:25
shawndon't really need to move it just would like to know how i can use the other 1tb that is availiable02:25
escottapos, its not supported. run "ldd /bin | grep usr" to see why02:25
k1lwonderlessgirl: so you use a live system?02:25
zygopterawonderlessgirl >> debian is less torublesome, and it is what ubuntu was based on02:25
k1lzygoptera: stop that, please02:26
krywkI'm trying to play it on Fantastic video settings (All on maximum, SSAo, Use Halo, etc.) and in 1600x900. Thing is, the game is awfully slow. Now, you might be thinking 'his PC is not capable of running it in max', let me tell you I can run Crysis 2 ON LINUX through WineHQ at Maximum, with no lags whatsoever. Now, I've opened gnome-system-monitor and found out the game isn't even using half of the CPU power.02:26
krywkAny help?02:26
wonderlessgirldw-02:26
wonderlessgirl* texla (~ray@h222.203.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #ubuntu02:26
wonderlessgirl<shawn> I just wanna be able to use the full 2TB i don't really care about moving stuff02:26
wonderlessgirl<dw-> mic issue.. can record in audacity by selecting the hw input. when i load pavucontr02:26
FloodBot1wonderlessgirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:26
wonderlessgirlops02:26
shawnYeah02:26
wonderlessgirldw- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/audacity-records-for-a-half-second-then-stops-723221/02:26
dw-audacity works fine02:27
dw-pulseaudio dont02:27
wonderlessgirloh02:27
krywkIt happened to me once02:27
wonderlessgirllet me rephrase my google seach then02:27
krywkI just kept trying.02:27
krywk:T02:27
krywkSooooo...02:27
dw-yea i changed the config and now the inputs are all gone02:27
dw-guess need ar eboot02:27
krywkAny help for my problem? :T02:27
cubwhat video card works best with unity02:28
cubanyone?02:28
wonderlessgirlmaybe this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118066902:28
dw-i will see what a reboot does02:28
wonderlessgirlreally..?02:28
wonderlessgirlhe didnt try rebooting?02:29
cubwonderlessgirl, are u adorable?02:29
shawnalso why is it saying its used 842gbs when i haven't even dowloaded anything02:29
wonderlessgirlim an adorable feisty bitch02:29
cubwonderlessgirl, my kinda girl <302:29
wonderlessgirlgo away now :)02:29
elkycub, this is a tech support channel, not a dating service02:29
wonderlessgirlcan anyone help me, nobodys been able to get anywhere for 5 days, every tim i install ubuntu and try to install anything or update or anything i get a read only file system error, 5 days and nobodys been ble to help, we have ruled out hardware faults, and dont just say ubuntu isnt for you02:30
cubelky i work for canonical, i think i know that02:30
krywkwonderlessgirl, try formatting the drive? :T02:30
wonderlessgirlfuck you, ive formatted like 9 billion times now02:30
k1lwonderlessgirl: again: is this issue on a usb-live-system?02:30
wonderlessgirlliterally all day yeserday i was reinstalling for peopel02:30
cubwonderlessgirl, quit using profanity, it is not allowed in here.02:30
ajeffcoformatting isn't the same as nuking the drive and starting over02:31
krywkk1l, what if it is? I've been experiencing problems with that.02:31
shawnScrew it i guess im gonna reinstall02:31
wonderlessgirlwhqat?02:31
k1lwonderlessgirl: stop that language. its not appropriate here02:31
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krywkI mean, USB filesystems.02:31
wonderlessgirlits and issue after i install, like i said02:31
wonderlessgirlfrom a usb , and ive changed usb, and redownloaded ubuntu02:31
wonderlessgirli even tryed linux mint and had the same issues02:31
nirivenI loves WebGL :) http://hcmaslov.d-real.sci-nnov.ru/public/mp3/Offspring/Offspring%20'Amazed'.mp302:31
k1lwonderlessgirl: so is this problem on a live-system or on a real install?02:31
nirivenshit..02:31
wonderlessgirlcan you not read? ive told you twice, after i install i have issues02:32
krywkk1l, I'm having problems with a pendrive turning into read-only once in a while :T02:32
cubwonderlessgirl, you have been trying to install from USB, what about DVD?02:32
wonderlessgirli have no dvds02:32
cubokay, and you "burned" this image to the USB yourself?02:32
k1lok, so can you give us some logs? like dmesg? maybe its a faulty hdd. or make sure your partitions are not running out of space02:33
krywkk1l, she said it's right after a fresh install, so I don't really think it's a space problem :T02:33
cubperhaps redownloading it, check the checksum of the file before burning it again, and then try reinstalling. If that doesn't work then you might need to get a hold of a DVD burner.02:33
wonderlessgirli have a 250 gb ssd, no partitions, i give it 16 gigs of swap wich is stupid but one of you guys said to,02:33
waveformhmm02:33
cubyeah you don't need that much swap wonderlessgirl  :)02:34
krywkI'm just gonna repost my problem02:34
wonderlessgirli never once said burned, so if your teasing be about that then your retarded because i said used a usb02:34
satanxxso.... i got a nvidia gtx660m... i cant find correct drivers any suggestion?02:34
cubYou have to put the image on a USB somehow, unless you bought it pre-loaded you have to put it on the USB and then get your machine to boot from it.02:34
subb1hi guys02:34
krywk I'm trying to play One Late Night on Fantastic video settings (All on maximum, SSAo, Use Halo, etc.) and in 1600x900. Thing is, the game is awfully slow. Now, you might be thinking 'his PC is not capable of running it in max', let me tell you I can run Crysis 2 ON LINUX through WineHQ at Maximum, with no lags whatsoever. Now, I've opened gnome-system-monitor and found out the game isn't even using half of the CPU power.02:34
k1lwonderlessgirl: like i told: logs could help to investigate the issue. out of the blue there could be several issues02:34
wonderlessgirli dont know how to get logs ok02:35
cubBottom line is wonderlessgirl , if the image used on the USB has faults, it could cause those issues.02:35
satanxxso.... i got a nvidia gtx660m... i cant find correct drivers any suggestion?02:35
wonderlessgirlwell ive downloaded it 3 times and checked it every time, ive changed usb and everything02:35
krywksatanxx: Applications > System > System Config > Additional Drivers > NVIDIA (current-updates version)02:35
wonderlessgirlyou guys are morons, andd you all do this, you decide its one thing i know its not and then you just keep hammering that one idea and tring nothing else02:36
cublol wonderlessgirl , i've never expierenced your issues period02:36
wonderlessgirlboth of yous are just saying its the usbs fault, i have no money or id use windows because this is shit, im not buying dvds,02:36
cuband i've installed multiple linux distros on different machines of different stats.02:36
krywkwonderlessgirl, you came here asking for help but your manners are not the ones indicating you're actually trying to be helpful for us to actually be able to help you.02:36
krywkOh well02:37
krywkshe's gone02:37
krywk:T02:37
cubi think they are a troll02:37
krywkAnyone got a solution to my problem? :I02:37
listerMaybe a bot02:37
krywkDidn't look like it02:37
krywkMaybe just a troll.02:37
k1lwell, lets move on :)02:38
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krywkI really need help with this game :T02:38
OerHeksno, Bianca/wonderlessgirl was here yesterday, but we still don't know what the problem is, we do not get enough detals.02:38
krywkAnd yet again she's back?02:39
krywkListen up wonderlessgirl_, if you think the people here can't help you, then go ask somewhere else.02:39
k1l!language > wonderlessgirl_02:40
ubottuwonderlessgirl_, please see my private message02:40
wonderlessgirl_kick me for language? all anyone ever says here is its probably your usb's fault or check your md5, omfg ive been having issues for 5 days now you think i havent heard it 50 billion times?02:40
listerA shop offers to my a NOTEBOOK MSI CR460 ubuntu preinstalled, but it is not certified, what can i wait for?02:40
krywkThen go ask for help somewhere else if you're not finding anything here.02:40
krywkTry the forums, there's more to support than an IRC chat.02:41
wonderlessgirl_no02:41
wonderlessgirl_im not waiting for a forum repsonse,02:41
satanxxkrywk, its not letting me change drivers02:41
k1lwonderlessgirl_: you are ban evading. join #ubuntu-ops if you want to speak about that ban.02:42
wonderlessgirl_this is the 21st centrury,   the only thing slower than getitng support through a forum, is pen and paper02:42
tripelbI have QN old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. I also have some not partition that came with the dell, for recovery? I just want everything proper.02:42
krywksatanxx, do you have superuser permissions?02:42
escottthanks k1l02:42
cubthat's so annoying...02:42
satanxxi do but DIDNT OPEN a su02:42
satanxxCAPS02:42
apos usb is the most likely issue. if thts not it then you should log the startup and shutdown sequence to see if the computer is not properly shutting down. i dont own a hard drive, i use only usb. and i can tell you it sounds like a usb issue. try changing filesystems, perhapse02:43
cubi've never had that problem installing any linux distro02:43
cuband i've installed it on all kinds of machines02:43
krywkThen I don't see why it's not letting you change drivers.02:43
cubold and new02:43
krywk:T02:43
gilbI just installed Ubuntu and selected encryption with the installer- how do I set the password now?02:43
krywkSelect the driver, click Install. Does it let you do that?02:43
krywkOr, well, 'Activate'.02:44
listerA shop offers to me a NOTEBOOK MSI CR460 ubuntu preinstalled, but it is not certified, what can i wait for?02:44
krywkI'll repeat my problem once again, and then, if I don't get an answer, I'll search somewhere else. :T02:45
krywk I'm trying to play it on Fantastic video settings (All on maximum, SSAo, Use Halo, etc.) and in 1600x900. Thing is, the game is awfully slow. Now, you might be thinking 'his PC is not capable of running it in max', let me tell you I can run Crysis 2 ON LINUX through WineHQ at Maximum, with no lags whatsoever. Now, I've opened gnome-system-monitor and found out the game isn't even using half of the CPU power.02:45
krywk(And by IT i mean One Late Night)02:45
krywkAny suggestions?02:46
k1lkrywk: the game isrunning in wine?02:47
listerA shop offers to me a NOTEBOOK MSI CR460 ubuntu preinstalled, but it is not certified, what can i wait for?02:47
listerplease02:47
Seven_Six_Twolister, what do you mean by "what can I wait for"02:47
krywkk1l, no, the game was made in Unity 4.0, and I downloaded a native linux version.02:47
texlaUbuntu-12.04.1 additional drivers nvidia (current driver) which version is this driver ??02:48
Seven_Six_Twokrywk, there's a linux version of Unity? I thought that was windows only02:48
k1lkrywk: hmm. i dont know the game. i would try to ask the game community/devs, too02:48
krywkSeven_Six_Two, no, it's just the game that has a Linux version, Unity 4.0 implemented 'Export Linux binary' tool. The development kit in itself hasn't been ported.02:49
listerSeven_Six_Two: Well, Does wireless work?02:49
krywkk1l, I might try asking the devs, I just thought I could get some help here. :T02:49
iIlL10Oo libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.22-0ubuntu1) but 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed02:49
Seven_Six_Twolister, I don't know, and that's not what I saw you asking. What's the chipset that it uses?02:49
k1lkrywk: i dont know if there is a general ubuntu problem in that caase or if its a game-problem02:49
Seven_Six_Twolister, if it comes with ubuntu preinstalled, it's likely that the wireless works02:50
listerSeven_Six_Two: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR460.html#?div=Specification02:50
krywkk1l, Well, I didn't get this problem at all with other native Linux games. I might try it out with 'No Heroes' once it's out (Linux port, also Unity). If the problem is present there, then it might be Unity game issues.02:50
cubokay what graphics card works best with Unity??02:51
krywkI might as well try the windows version under WINE, since Unity games run wonderfully under WINE.02:51
cubim using an intel integrated chip and have 1gb of ram, and it's a little slow02:51
listerSeven_Six_Two: I cannot prove the notebook before to pay for it!02:51
iIlL10Oo libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.22-0ubuntu1) but 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is  installed02:51
escottcub, intel is very well supported but the fact that you only have 1gb of ram suggests your system is just underpowered in general02:52
genoobiehey all02:52
genoobiejust finished installing "lubuntu"02:52
cubescott, i can upgrade to 4gb (the max supported) but will this actually help the speed at which unity runs?02:52
genoobiebut the login screen is all screwed up02:52
Seven_Six_Twolister, so the shop will sell it to you, but won't let you return it if it's not working? Tell the shop to stuff it.02:52
genoobiethe first page "lubuntu" logo is OK02:53
cublike for example.... the Window preview is slower on this machine than it was on my desktop using the LiveCd02:53
Seven_Six_Twolister, buy from somewhere else.02:53
escottcub, im guessing no. if they sold a system with only 1gb of ram then it was either very old or a netbook which is never going to be blazingly fast02:53
genoobiebut where you get the login screen is all blocked / illegible02:53
listerThere is cheapest02:53
genoobiemust be an "X" problem02:53
genoobiesuggestions on how to fix?02:53
k1lgenoobie: install the videocard driver? what card is it? which driver using so far?02:53
cubwell my machine is old, like i said i can upgrade the ram from 1gb to 4gb, but that is the max supported02:54
cubi cannot install more than 4gb on this pos02:54
Seven_Six_Twolister, so what? You send me $100 and I'll send you a computer.02:54
genoobiekll no way to know just yet02:54
genoobieI just logged in from memory02:54
genoobienot sure how to get a terminal screen when the video is all effed02:54
genoobieany suggestions?02:54
Seven_Six_Twolister, you get what you pay for, and a shop that won't take back something that doesn't work, doesn't deserve your money. Spend a little bit more and get something that's not chaff.02:54
k1lgenoobie: with crtl+alt+f1 you can switch to a terminal and with crtl+alt+f7 you can switch back02:55
genoobieokay cool!02:55
genoobieit's giving errors on the tty02:55
listerSeven_Six_Two: Well, where do you live?02:55
genoobieurgh02:55
Seven_Six_Twolister, and don't think I don't know what it means to not be able to afford it. There's a reason that I'm using a 6 year old pc right now.02:55
genoobieBuffer I/O error device fd0, sector 002:56
Seven_Six_Twolister, Canada, so it's not like I can say there aren't lots of shops.02:56
listerSeven_Six_Two: so do I02:56
genoobieBuffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 002:56
lister I'm using a 6 year old pc right now.02:56
genoobieend_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 002:57
genoobiebad hdd?02:57
Seven_Six_TwoI would suggest buying from a reputable online retailer if there aren't any other shops that you can go to.02:57
krywkIs this the full error, genoobie? Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 002:57
krywkOh, yes it is.02:57
genoobieyes02:58
Seven_Six_Twolister, sorry...I'll have to end this line, as this is an Ubuntu support channel.02:58
genoobiekrywk, bad hdd?02:58
krywkgenoobie, I still don't know, I'm searching about it02:58
Seven_Six_Twolister, I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic as well02:58
genoobiehrm, let me restart02:58
krywkLooks like the system is trying to mount a floppy disk.02:59
krywk:I02:59
Seven_Six_Twokrywk, edit your fstab and comment out the floppy entry02:59
krywkNo, I mean, genoobie's problem02:59
krywklol02:59
InFlamesanyone know if SubSection is a valid section name in xorg.conf?02:59
genoobieurgh, okay02:59
texlaUbuntu-12.04.1 additional drivers nvidia (current driver) which version is this driver ??02:59
iIlL10Oo libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.22-0ubuntu1) but 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is  installed02:59
escottgenoobie, fd0 would usually be floppy disk 003:00
Seven_Six_TwoInFlames, I can't say for sure, but in all my time, I've never seen it.03:00
genoobieokay, cool03:00
listerSeven_Six_Two: Ok, no problem, thanks a lot.03:00
genoobieso I am back at the grub03:00
InFlamesSeven_Six_Two, it was for setting the VirtualScreen size03:00
genoobieshould I try to boot to a "recovery" kernel?03:00
krywktexla, should be 3.0403:00
genoobieor recovery mode?03:00
InFlamesSubSection "Display"03:00
InFlames                Virtual 4480 268003:00
InFlames        EndSubSection03:00
InFlameslike that03:00
FloodBot1InFlames: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:00
InFlamesoops03:01
genoobieor should I do a command line to get an X-enviro?03:01
xbmcexit03:01
xbmcquit03:01
genoobiehrm03:02
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, I'm sorry to ask, but what is your problem? I'd like to help!03:02
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, awesome!03:02
genoobieokay, so I just installed lubuntu03:02
genoobiethe splash screen comes up fine\03:02
genoobiebut then the login screen is completely borked03:03
genoobieprobably a bad X11 setting03:03
genoobieplus it's trying to mount a floppy03:03
kc5fwk_does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to mail a copy on disc?  I'm not seeing a link on the website.  I'm probably looking right at it though ..... lol03:03
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, ok, can you alt+ctrl_F1 for a terminal?03:03
bashinateI have a question, when logging into splash screen it immediately takes me back,  mysql is failing to start i see03:03
bashinaterestarting xorg has not helped03:03
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, don't worry about the floppy. I'll show you the fix.03:03
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, yes, but I am back at grub thinking there is a command line option that might help with "X" and fd003:04
genoobieshould I just boot to ubuntu?03:04
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, no, boot normally, and ctrl+alt+f1 and then log in.03:04
DmnchildIs there a better way to edit user accounts than the system settings? it seems I created a user, but possibly allocated a small amount of /home space to this user when i want them to have no limitations.03:04
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, tell me when you're ready.03:04
genoobieokay03:05
genoobiebooting03:05
Seven_Six_TwoDmnchild, you both share the /home space03:05
genoobiethere seems to be some kind of batch thing in the beginning that is looking for a floppy03:05
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, don't worry about it.03:05
DmnchildHm, mebbe its a setting elsewhere for the program limiting that user account.03:05
gilbI just installed Ubuntu and selected encryption with the installer- how do I set the password now?03:06
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, I am logged in03:06
Dmnchild /home has 2tb03:06
genoobieit stopped trying to mount the floppy03:06
escottgilb, its the user password03:06
genoobiebut login screen is borked03:06
gilbescott, thank you03:06
escottgenoobie, some motherboards send weird stuff wrt to floppys you can blacklist the module03:06
gilbis there any way to verify that my disk is in fact encrypted?03:06
escottgilb, encrypted home is different from encrypted disk03:07
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, ok, at the terminal, type (without quotes) "sudo apt-get install gdm". it will prompt for your password, and then ask you to choose a display manager. choose gdm and tell me what the other choices are.03:07
genoobieescott, that's a bit out of my league at the moment03:07
escottgilb, but your ciphertext is stored in ~/.Private03:07
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bashinatewould mysql not starting have anything to do with being re-directed to splash screen at login ?03:08
genoobiedo I want to continue?03:08
genoobieno choices listed03:08
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, yes03:08
gilbescott, thank you again03:08
krywkHuh?03:08
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, what's the basic idea here03:08
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, that's just asking because apt selected other packages to install as well. They're probably dependencies.03:09
genoobieyes03:09
krywkIt looks like 'One Late Night' requires an i5 to run at Beautiful-Fantastic03:09
krywkI have an i303:09
krywk:T03:09
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, changing the default display manager. That's what gives the login screen.03:09
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genoobiegdm is an option and lightdm is an option03:09
omfgwhyive got a strange ubuntu issue03:09
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, since yours looks corrupted, changing to another one is a good first step.03:09
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, choose gdm03:09
genoobieokay03:09
omfgwhyit appears that apt has a hardcoded ip address for us.archive.ubuntu.com03:09
krywkActually no03:10
krywkno.03:10
krywkLightdm is better.03:10
krywkGDM usually gives problems with newly created users.03:10
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, does the display manager only handle the intro screen?03:10
genoobieugh03:10
krywkYou can change it later though03:10
krywkSo if you're experiencing these kind of problems, don't worry03:10
Seven_Six_Twokrywk, oh? and can you fix a corruption from the terminal? You've been here long enough to suggest something genius.03:10
genoobieso the dm became corrupted (or at least that's the premise)?03:11
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, yes, and you can change it at will.03:11
genoobieokay03:11
genoobieback at $03:11
genoobierestart?03:11
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, no. "sudo service gdm restart"03:11
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, and see if you get to a good login screen03:11
krywkSeven_Six_Two, actually you CAN change from GDM to LightDM from terminal03:11
krywkNot sure how though, but you can.03:11
genoobienah03:11
genoobieequally borked03:12
genoobie:)03:12
genoobieugh03:12
Seven_Six_Twokrywk, I know. that's what we just did.03:12
genoobieuh oh03:12
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, can you define "borked" without saying "broken"?03:12
genoobieso is ctrl-alt-f103:12
krywkWait, so he's been using LightDM the whole time?03:12
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, what do you see?03:12
genoobiehold a sec03:12
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, can you do ctrl+alt+F2?03:13
genoobiehow do I switch out of terminal screen again?03:13
krywkI'm gonna try and run this game on Good03:13
Seven_Six_Twothe gui is ctrl+alt+F703:13
genoobieyeah but now the tty screen looks funny03:13
genoobieokay03:13
qiyongis lxr dropped?03:13
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, terminals are from F1...F603:13
qiyonghow to find dropped pkgs?03:13
genoobieif I go to ctrl+alt+F703:13
genoobiethere are four stripes03:13
genoobieblue field03:13
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, ok, what kind of video do you have?03:14
genoobiewhitish blockiness on them03:14
genoobies3 savage I think03:14
genoobiewhopping 8mb sgram03:14
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, thinkpad?03:14
genoobieyep03:15
genoobieolder t2103:15
genoobienow you are going to tell me it's not supported :)03:15
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, can you get to a terminal again?03:15
uplinxAnyone know about running 2x dual head cards for a total of 4 monitors?03:16
genoobieyes03:16
genoobiebut its all weird now03:16
krywkWell it's not my PC's issue since it runs slowly even on Fastest.03:16
genoobieback at terminal03:16
genoobienow what03:16
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, please prepend with my nickname. It makes it easier to see messages that are for me. Most clients will autocomplete a nickname if you hit tab after a few letters.03:16
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, you got it03:16
qiyonghow to find dropped pkgs?03:16
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-s3"03:17
pingupinguhello guys03:17
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, sorry...put "savage" instead of "s3"03:17
krywkNow that I remember, Thinkpad computers DO have problems with Ubuntu. Not sure why though03:17
pingupinguwhats is the preferred backup solution?03:17
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, I am rebooting because I could not read the tty03:18
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, ok.03:18
krywkI might be talking out of my butt though, so I'm not sure03:18
genoobiekrywk, if you are you could put that on youtube and make money...03:18
krywkYep, definitely talking out of my butt.03:19
genoobieokay, urgh03:19
krywkAnyways03:19
krywkI have... ANOTHER problem.03:19
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, alread installed03:20
krywkWhenever I use an pendrive on Ubuntu, after some time it turns into read-only03:20
genoobie0 to remove and 128 not upgraded03:20
krywkwhat do I do about it?03:20
krywk:I03:20
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escottkrywk, don't use a pendrive... hardware like that is not meant for long term use03:20
tripelbI have QN old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. I also have some not partition that came with the dell, for recovery? I just want everything proper.  Please help.03:20
krywkescott, I mean, in normal ubuntu use, not for installing or anything like that, just to transfer files from one PC to another03:21
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, can you paste the output of "lspci -v" to pastebin.com and paste a link to it here please?03:21
genoobiehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/184089/lubuntu-12-04-on-an-ibm-thinkpad-t2103:21
genoobiewhat does this mean...03:21
escottkrywk, still the same can be said... its cheap lower power, fragile form factor03:22
escottkrywk, make sure you aren't pulling it before it completely umounts03:22
genoobieum, not really sure how to do this without a graphical interface03:22
tripelbI have an old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled windows after a problem that led to a grub recovery> prompt. and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. I also have some not partition that came with the dell, for recovery? I 03:22
krywkescott, it's a Kingstom DT-102, 4 GB03:22
genoobieSeven_Six_Two,  um, not really sure how to do this without a graphical interface03:22
krywkI don't think it's a low-end pendrive at all03:22
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, how to downgrade your mesalib? I wouldn't try it...03:23
krywkescott, also, I make sure to remove it in safe mode before pulling it out03:23
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, so I have to go back to an older version of lubuntu03:23
genoobiethat's fine03:23
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, that's what I get from reading that bit of help03:24
escottkrywk, im not saying it has anything to do with low-end or high-end03:24
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, if you've got a few minutes, I'll take a quick break and have a think. An older version would be the easiest03:24
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, you're standing at the edge of a rabbit hole.03:24
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, that's what that seems to imply though correct...although that person is obviously able to make it work03:24
genoobiejust poor video performance.03:24
genoobieI suppose I could just run XP03:25
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, although to be honest, this kind of issue is how I learned about linux.03:25
escottkrywk, im saying its a market where the price point is for a disposable product... so they aren't making industrial strength flash drives. if it gets your pictures from one computer to the next call it a victory. if it doesn't reformat and try again03:25
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, yeah, it'03:25
genoobieI was able to run xubuntu and it loaded up OK03:25
genoobielet me try lubuntu 1103:26
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, it's looks like it's possible, but probably not if you have to get personal help on irc.03:26
genoobie:)03:26
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, sorry. not that it's impossible, but for me to guide you through it would be a lot more difficult than downloading an older version and sticking with that.03:26
krywk:I03:26
genoobieI think 11 has the 3.x kernel though03:26
krywkAlso I just made a port for Pesadelo for Linux03:26
krywkJust copied over a few files from One Late Night03:27
krywk:T03:27
genoobiexubuntu was fine, just super slow03:27
genoobiemaybe I should try to slim down xubuntu03:27
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, that's related to the 3d driver (hardware acceleration) but the mesalib is for software acceleration.03:27
genoobiesomehow that version 12.10 worked...now I am perplexed03:27
genoobiebut xubuntu - lubuntu should've installed the same.03:28
genoobiegranted I went with an alternate install on the lubuntu03:28
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, 12.10 worked for you?03:28
genoobieand xubuntu I used the graphical install03:28
genoobieyes03:28
listerI'm going to the bed...03:28
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, then go back to that!03:28
genoobienite lister03:28
genoobieyes, but the problem was xubuntu was prohibitively slow03:29
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, you can strip it down once it's working03:29
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, are you going to be around a while?03:29
genoobienot really sure how to "strip it down"03:29
genoobie:)03:29
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, oh yes. I'm up late tonight. I have to finish reading Tigana.03:29
listerbye03:29
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, stopping stuff that is running that you don't need03:30
genoobieokay I will be back after I install xubuntu, again, for the umpteenth time :)03:30
krywkI wonder if I can do the same for other Unity games03:30
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, have you considered DSL or Puppy?03:30
genoobiepuppy was ok03:30
genoobiepkgman in puppy was a bit rough03:31
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, I can imagine!03:31
genoobieiirc the sound didn't work either03:31
genoobieonly went up to the 2.x kernels03:31
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, I have a legal copy of 98SE if you're interested.03:32
genoobiehaha03:32
genoobieI can't even remember how to use that OS03:32
genoobieI wonder if chrome would even work on that...03:33
genoobieto be honest, xp works OK, just not great03:33
genoobiethought I could get better performance with *nix03:33
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, you can, but part of it depends on you...03:33
genoobieheh...puppy has a new distro...03:34
Seven_Six_Twobiab03:34
genoobiemaybe I'll try puppy03:34
genoobiewhat's the difference between slackware compatible and precise-pangolin compatible...03:35
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, slackware is a totally different beast03:35
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, it doesn't use apt03:36
genoobieokay I will skip it for now03:36
genoobieugh03:36
genoobieyeah, I don't want to mess with figuring out dependencies, etc.03:36
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, I wasn't making a qualitative observation though. Slackware is very good, and known to be very stable.03:36
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, any suggestion on which puppy distro might be best?03:36
xangua!ot03:37
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:37
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, debian is also another good choice. very stable, uses apt.03:37
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, so what was wrong with xubuntu?03:37
genoobieI mean it is slow03:37
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, nothing. But there are lots of choices, and each has its advantages.03:37
genoobiehrm, puppy was the fastest one I have used to date03:38
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, it's designed for very lightweight machines. but xangua is right, and we should go to offtopic to discuss further03:39
genoobieSeven_Six_Two, I don't want to take all your time03:39
Seven_Six_Twogenoobie, don't worry. I'll let you know when I'm too busy. There's a reason I run multi-head03:40
genoobieokay, so I have two options,03:40
genoobiepuppylinux or try to slim down xubuntu03:40
genoobieI don't know that the latest release of puppy works either03:41
douloihello, just lurking to try and learn something, don't mind me.03:43
douloiclear03:44
C-S-BHow can my laptop route ipv6, when all I have done is install gogoc on my server?03:45
ThorbinatorHi, how do I run multiple instances of VMware?03:46
Thorbinatorthis is using VMware player, trying to guest win7 and server 2008 on ubuntu 12.10 host03:47
Seven_Six_TwoThorbinator, you want to start multiple virtual machines, or instances of vmware? They aren't the same03:48
Thorbinatorpreferably multiple VMs03:48
Seven_Six_TwoThorbinator, to be honest, I've never tried, but I would assume that you just start another one from the control panel in the manner that you started the first one.03:49
floppyearsn00b question, how can I remove/add items from the left hand sidebar?03:49
uplinxif i'm running 2 video cards and 4 monitors, is there any special configuration i have to do or does it run out of the box?03:50
douloifloppyears: from the left sidebar of what?03:50
floppyearsdouloi: the default launcher icons in the left hand side of the ubuntu desktop.03:51
cgkadesfloppyears: right click, lock to launcher?03:51
NickHello!!03:51
cfhowlettNick, greetings03:51
l0lh4rdhi03:51
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cubso no one had any video card suggestions03:51
cublol03:51
l0lh4rdnope03:51
floppyearsdouloi: cgkades thanks. I guess I was doing the right click wrong. This is a macbook and I expected the right click to be ctrl+click instead03:51
IveBeenBitI'm new to Ubuntu and the OSS world. Can anyone explain to me how Canonical makes money?03:51
Guest78490I'm having some trouble with a bluetooth dongle on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone here lend me a hand?03:51
cfhowlettIveBeenBit, please take this discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks03:52
Seven_Six_Twouplinx, I think you'd need special configuration. I'd like to know too, as I'm running dual and would like to go to 3 or 4 without buying matrox gear.03:52
cgkadesfloppyears: how does it run on your mac? did you dual-boot?03:52
Marcin_IveBeenBit: if you are new in ubuntu and oss world learn them not ask question how to make money :)03:52
uplinxSeven_Six_Two: thanks for the information, i'll keep working on my google fu on this one03:53
uplinxSeven_Six_Two: I'm looking to run with 4 heads.03:53
floppyearscgkades: I wiped the hard drive and installed ubuntu 12.10 using the installer dvd. This is an old mackboo pro. It's not super fast, but it doesn't lag too bad.03:53
Guest78490Can you make Ubuntu recognize a bluetooth dongle booting from CD?03:53
l0lh4rdany good ebooks for learning linux03:53
IveBeenBitcfhowlett, Sorry...I will go to that channel and ask.03:53
cfhowlettIveBeenBit, no worries and welcome to ubuntu.03:53
cgkadesfloppyears: ah ok, cool. i have an old mac book. not sure if i want to install ubuntu, or keep it running os x and make it an itunes server03:54
IveBeenBitl0lh4rd, I found The Ubuntu Beginner's Guide to be pretty good by Jonathan Moeller. It's like 5 bucks on Amazon. I'm new myself.03:54
floppyearscgkades: yeah, I might do that with an old mac mini that I have around. Is it pretty hard to setup an itunes server?03:54
l0lh4rdthanks03:55
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cgkadesfloppyears: by itunes server, i just mean, leave itunes running, and access all my ripped dvd's from my apple tv03:55
floppyearsah03:55
cfhowlettl0lh4rd, there is the free Ubuntu Pocket Guide version 1.103:55
floppyearswhere can I find the setting to turn off the eye candy in ubuntu and make it run as fast as possible?03:56
douloithanks for the book tip, I just bought it03:56
bravisSo Ubuntu does not have glib by default?03:56
floppyearsI know I can switch to a different wm and have it run fast, but want to try ubuntu de first.03:56
pakHi All,Can anyone please suggest me at application for spped test of PCIe03:56
DreadNaughtAm I allowed to freely ask a question in here? I'm new03:56
mikodoApparmor from app called Armorforge. Should Firefox be set for enforce-mode. I have no router, just connect to a modem for one computer?03:57
l0lh4rdnew here as well03:57
bravisso does anyone here use IRSSI?03:58
cfhowlettfloppyears, light DE would be lxde or xfce03:58
cgkadesbravis: sometimes. i use weechat mostly though03:58
cfhowlettDreadNaught, please ask you support questions03:58
WACOMaltHi, I opened a file in nano, not realising I needed sudo to save it. When I try to save it naturally says permission denied. is there any way to get into sudo now so I dont lose my changes? or do I have to save elsewhere and then move/chown the file back to the original location?03:58
DreadNaughtI need some advice on using Ubuntu in an internet cafe?03:58
cfhowlettWACOMalt, sudo on the fly ... no.03:59
braviscopy past after sudo @WAC03:59
cfhowlettDreadNaught, ask03:59
KaedalusExcuse me, may I ask for support too?04:00
cfhowlettKaedalus, please ask04:00
cfhowlett!details04:00
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."04:00
bravismm weechat will look into it i got use to irssi and need glib to compile it but glib is not part of ubuntu04:00
KaedalusSo, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 from CD.  I'm trying to use a USB Bluetooth Dongle. It is recognized as a USB device, but not as a bluetooth adapter.04:01
cgkadesbravis: why dont you apt-get install irssi?04:01
KaedalusIt uses BlueSoleil on Windows.04:01
KaedalusWhat can I do to make it work?04:01
Seven_Six_TwoKaedalus, have you installed the bluez packages?04:01
KaedalusYes. Also two more bluetooth packages (Blueman and Bluewho)04:02
KaedalusI tried resetting the bluetooth services through the terminal, to no effect.04:02
bravishmmm cause that would make sense...04:02
cfhowlettKaedalus, running from CD?  perhaps if you actually install ubuntu ...04:03
cgkadesbravis: lol04:03
Bon-changuys, may i ask for some link to online privacy with ubuntu articles?04:03
bravislol i am tired dont know why i was trying to compile it04:03
KaedalusThat's my problem. I only wanted to do a quick use of a program which is Ubuntu only04:03
cfhowlettBon-chan, please take this query to #ubuntu-offtopic as this is the support channel.  Thanks.04:03
mikodoXubuntu 12.04 No router, just modem connect to one computer.  Apparmor from app called Armorforge. Should Firefox be set for enforce mode or complain mode? Anyone know?04:03
KaedalusUsing it only once, because the Ubuntu PC is not home.04:04
Bon-chancfhowlett, sorry and thanks!04:04
cfhowlettKaedalus, OK quick fix; install virtualbox, install ubuntu there and run it.04:04
KaedalusOk, will do that.04:04
KaedalusI though it wouldn't work with bluetooth.04:04
cfhowlettKaedalus, good luck04:04
KaedalusThanks for the help!!04:04
cgkadesbravis: setting up the dependent libraries sucks. thats why i love package management04:05
bravismaybe a cigar will help the thought process...04:05
bravisits installed04:05
cgkadesbravis: or a beer :)04:05
bravisthat is what my mindset is04:05
* cfhowlett ubuntu prefers homebrewed pale ale ...04:06
bravisused to do way too much compiling04:06
braviskinda nice to have pkg managers04:06
cgkadesbravis: you should look into weechat. it's pretty sweet. you can split up the terminal to multple windows04:06
bravis bbiab smokin..04:06
bravis@cgkades i will04:06
mikodoWell, Armorforge I will leave Firefox and Thunderbird on enforce mode until told differently. Thanks! Bye04:07
C-S-Bradvd is advertising an ipv6 network on my server04:15
C-S-BHow do I make ufw block the incoming connections04:16
cfhowlett!ops04:16
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!04:16
cfhowlettraddvd04:16
IdleOnecfhowlett: ?04:16
cfhowlettradvd advertising through ipv6?  sorry if I mis-called you ...04:17
WACOMaltthanks bravis04:17
marienzthat's what radvd is for :)04:17
cfhowlettIdleOne, as reported by C-S-B04:17
Picicfhowlett: its a program.. on their computer.04:17
* cfhowlett oh hell. really?04:17
bravislove copy its your friend04:17
WACOMaltI need to add something to crontab to run every hour. what would the first 4 parts of that be? I totally do not understand crontab...04:17
IdleOnehehe, no worries04:17
* cfhowlett nuclear facebomb to the table.04:17
cfhowlettIdleOne, sorry.04:18
FlannelWACOMalt: Your crontab? or the root one?04:18
WACOMaltI'm ... not sure.04:18
FlannelWACOMalt: what are you trying to run hourly?04:18
* cfhowlett I find my ignorance ... appalling04:18
WACOMaltan rsnapshot backup04:18
WACOMaltalso daily and weekly04:18
C-S-Bdid i just confuse everyone?04:19
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WACOMalt0 */24 * * * /usr/local/bin/rsnapshot hourly04:19
WACOMaltlook right?04:19
cfhowlettC-S-B,  probably only me ...04:19
lolcatWhat does 'shred /dev/sdb' do?04:19
Flannellolcat: secure deletion of everything on that drive.04:20
lolcatFlannel: how secure?04:20
PiciWACOMalt: you don't need */24.  Just 0 * * * * /do/whatever04:20
xrsC-S-B, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo04:21
Flannellolcat: uh, depends on your options.  You can see man shred about all the goodies, but it will write various patterns, and then optionally all zeros.04:21
bravisok noob q of the moment where do installed apps go? did apt-get install on a prog and cant find it in the apps...04:21
PiciWACOMalt: Thing of the crontab as filter that you'd put against a clock. whenever it matches, it runs.04:21
C-S-Bxrs, I was hoping to do it using UFW commands rather iptables directly.04:21
lolcatFlannel: Oh, I thougth it was some sort of speed-deletion.04:22
bashinateso when I login at splash screen I am automatically re-directed to splash screen04:22
Flannellolcat: Nope, it takes a while.04:22
cfhowlettbravis, try in terminal; locate program04:22
bashinateanyone seen this ?04:22
xrschains and tables is how i was trained sorry04:22
Rayall see that04:22
lolcatFlannel: 500GB through USB will be slow, rigth?04:22
Flannellolcat: I mean, you can ask it to do fewer passes, which will speed things up.04:22
C-S-Bxrs, the tunnel endpoint, my server, is firewalled ok.04:22
WACOMaltso */24 means....04:23
C-S-Bbut It is advertising another subnet /64 to my clients04:23
bravisoh figured there was a new shortcut04:23
Flannellolcat: yeah.  Probably leave that running overnight.  Apparently the default is 3 passes of patterns.04:23
WACOMaltevery hour ... if the hour is a 24?04:23
PiciWACOMalt: */24 doesn't really make sense for a field that would normally match agains't any hour.04:23
lolcatFlannel: Ooh, it was fairly quick on my 80gb drive, but I guess it has to be done, I am encrypting the drive04:24
Flannellolcat: If you're encrypting, aren't you going to populate it with random data anyway?04:24
xrsbravis, "/sbin", "/usr" in a few places and "/home/$you"04:24
bashinatewhy would splash screen re-direct upon login ? i've tried re-installing lightdm, deleted my home profile, created a new user, and still nada04:25
lolcatFlannel: yes, but I want to be sure the original content is truley gone04:25
PiciWACOMalt: even then */24 would mean every 24 hours. Which isn't what you want.04:26
bashinatealso tried recovery cd and starting fail safe graphical environment04:27
Rayredirect..? where to..?04:28
bashinateback to splash screen04:29
Raysplash screen..?04:29
bashinatelogin screen04:31
bashinatehttp://i.stack.imgur.com/ozp9p.png04:31
Raythats im waiting for :D04:31
edward_jj04:32
edward_jjjjjj04:32
Raywait a minute04:33
edward_..04:33
cfhowlettedward_, you have a question?04:33
edward_no04:34
doctorpepperdoes anyone know  where  i can get the live stream for LCA2013 ?04:34
Raybashinate : is it about ~/.Xauthority..? try to delete it04:34
bashinatehmmm k, checking04:34
Raybashinate : and then you just go to TTY1 and restart lightdm04:35
Rayctrl +alt + f1, login, next type  sudo service lightdm restart04:36
NegressCountyI am addressing gry's answer about Laman.  The River Laman isn't in historical records because Lehi named it after his oldest son while passing it when he took his family out into the wilderness by the red sea before taking the voyage to the Americas04:37
NegressCountyThe fact that the Laman River isn't on any map isn't proof that the Book of Mormon was supposedly a fabrication.04:37
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NegressCountyNephi specifically mentions in his account that it was a temporary encampment04:37
cfhowlett!ot|NegressCounty,  you're in the wrong channel sir/madam04:38
ubottuNegressCounty,  you're in the wrong channel sir/madam: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:38
NegressCountyand they soon after went to the America's04:38
NegressCountyso it isn't like there would be an official naming of such by those left behind in that land04:38
Raynot here.. NegressCounty04:38
bashinateRay: still same :(04:38
NegressCountyyou see the record of this was found on buried tablets04:38
cfhowlettNegressCounty, this is not the channel you're looking for..04:38
NegressCountyrevealed to Joseph Smith by the Angel Moroni04:38
chamunksI need to allow scp to acces sudo without a password04:38
NegressCountyIf you read Nephi I well you can see the context04:38
NegressCountygry  are you there?04:38
cfhowlettNegressCounty, stop please.04:38
Raybashinate : going think another solution now04:39
cfhowlettNegressCounty, wrong channel ...04:39
bashinatecool, thx04:39
Ray#ubuntu04:39
NegressCountyanyhow.. anybody else who has any questions about such scripture can email me04:39
Raysure04:39
NegressCountyor I can refer you to another bishop04:39
Raybut its #ubuntu04:39
chamunksI cant get around needing to use winscp or filezilla for some of the developers I need someone who knows how to disable password logins in a secure way via just scp04:39
cfhowlettNegressCounty, again, you are in the WRONG CHANNEL04:39
NegressCountybut everything in the Book of Mormon can be proven04:39
NegressCountybe sure of that gry04:39
Raybashinate : did it..?04:40
NegressCountywhat was that for?04:40
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chamunksI know its possible I just dont know how to do it or hwat to look for I am here though  http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/sudo.man.html04:40
NegressCountyone of your members asked me a question about this here the other day04:40
cfhowlett!ot>NegressCounty,04:40
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FlannelNegressCounty: This is a channel for Ubuntu technical support, religious discussions are offtopic here, please take it elsewhere.04:40
bashinateray: did what ? its still borked04:40
Linebecklinkhu04:41
Linebecklinkhi04:41
cfhowlettLinebecklink, greetings04:41
Raybashinate : try sudo rm ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority in the TTY104:41
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bashinatek04:42
bashinateray: nope04:43
Raybashinate : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199310404:43
WACOMaltI am new to crontab, and am trying to schedule hourly,daily, and weekly backups. can anyone please ook at my crontab file and tell me if this makes sense? http://pastie.org/pastes/5893931/text04:44
C-S-BI have UFW blocking incoming ipv6 now but I cant get outbound connections to work. Can anyone help? I have outbound enabled.04:44
PiciWACOMalt: sure, except there is no 24th hour. its 0-2304:45
Raybashinate : some solution just take out the probs on some computers :/ it's a Bug04:45
WACOMaltPici, ah derp :D so 0 would be midnight04:45
PiciWACOMalt: yep04:45
Raybashinate : Dont know exactly what number the bug is.04:45
chamunksDoes anyone have any idea how that I could do this?  Seems they want me to add sudo -s into the scp/shell info on winscp but it wont connecct to the ubuntu host04:46
PiciWACOMalt: everything else looks fine.  I'd just check `man 5 crontab` to see which day of the week is 0, I can't recall off the top of my head.04:46
bashinateray: thats what I was afraid of04:46
bashinateyeah i had tried creating another user and guest already04:46
bashinateand nada04:46
WACOMalt0 is sunday04:47
bashinategonna check the logs04:47
Raybashinate : many users finally re-install the ubuntu04:47
bashinateof course this is my media server, and finally have everything configured how i want :(04:47
Rayits easy, but need a cup of coffee and wafers to do that~04:48
Raybashinate : yep its hurt to reinstall, why you dont try to install another DE like Gnome3..???04:53
Raybashinate : so when you login, choose gnome3 instead of ubuntu & ubuntu 2d04:54
bashinatei've tried all of them04:54
bashinatenone work04:54
WACOMalt(warning, opinion coming) install Cinnamon Ui and be happy.04:54
bashinatehaha, i've actually been wanting to try it04:55
Rayyou've just have been trolled by a bug, probably~04:55
Raywhy you dont?04:56
chamunksI feel like this channel is too busy sometimes to get help04:56
WACOMaltI love it. its like if Gnome 2 had kept being developed and improved along that path. None of that touch UI, overly-simplified stuff.04:56
chamunksIs there a decent visudo line I can add that will allow me to scp into my box without a password04:56
bashinatei'm gonna re-install, looks like only option at this point04:56
bashinatechamunks: you can setup ssh keys04:57
bashinateand then you can scp without a passwd04:57
somsipchamunks: set up SSH key access. If you have a valid key for the machine you're connecting to, it will use it without prompting (if there is no password on the key)04:58
chamunksbashinate, Holy hell thank you very much.04:58
chamunksbashinate, I've been /bin/bash'ing my head against my desk for hours trying to figure this out.04:58
bashinatessh-keygen -t rsa04:58
bashinatethat will create the public / private key pair04:58
chamunksbashinate, and I can install that ssh keypair into the root user then via sudo>?04:59
chamunkswould that let this be possible?04:59
bashinateyou can login with ssh keys as root if thats what your asking ?05:00
bashinateor whatever other user you want05:00
chamunksbashinate, yes because I need the webdev to have access to the webroot and he can only connect via filezilla/winscp05:00
bashinateyeah thats fine05:00
somsipchamunks: you are going to allow someone else root access to your server?05:00
chamunkssomsip, this is just a testing box05:01
bashinatehaha05:01
chamunkssomsip, I'd rather be more fined grained with the controll access but i dont really know any other ways right now.05:01
somsipchamunks: you really would be better setting up safe permissions, but it's up to you05:01
bashinateyeah somsip is right, but thats your choice05:01
somsipchamunks: at the least, you could just add the dev user to www-data group so you keep him in /var/www05:02
chamunkssomsip, I've been having nothing but nightmares getting the perms working I gave up at one point to see if chmod 777 would work but then it was just messing with me anyways and still giving me perm denied responses.05:02
bashinatei would never give a developer root, you can just create a user account for them and they can still login with ssh keys05:02
chamunkssomsip, I couldnt find the name of that damn group earlier anywhere www-data ok I'll use that access control method in the main server.05:02
chamunksbashinate, well I have added him as that I tried that and even installed the webroot of his vhost inside his /home/05:03
somsipchamunks: from long, slow experience, it is well worth while learning about how to use permissions before you start doing things like this. It is a process of learning, but it's vital on servers open to others05:03
bashinate777 on a server is just asking to get owned05:03
bashinateits the lucky number05:03
lasindiHi all, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my HP Pavilion g7. When I select "Try Ubuntu" or "Install" or "Check Disc for Errors" I just get a black screen. I saw online it might be due to my Radeon graphics card, but when I press Ctrl Alt F1 nothing happens. I did try entering the GRUB command environment, and it told me I could press Ctrl X to boot, but that doesn't work (the alternate key (don't remember what it was) does work). So I'm not sure if my C05:03
lasinditrl key doesn't work in GRUB for some reason, or where I can go from here.05:03
chamunkssomsip, yeah im usually fine with this method its just tonight im throwing my hands up because this server isnt that important its just meant to essentially be testing anyway05:04
chamunksbashinate, oh god I know very much about 777 :P05:04
somsipchamunks: I understand. Just trying to offer advice, but take it as it's needed right now.05:04
chamunksbashinate, I was just trying to see if my system was just screwing with me or not and obviously its trolling .05:04
cublasindi, maybe try reburning the CD?05:04
chamunkssomsip, sorry I'm just happy to be close to a glueey solution for now :P05:04
cubcould be a bad burn... i would think if should still run if you were presented with the menu, the "check disc for errors" should run.05:05
somsipchamunks: no worries05:05
cubas it doesnt boot into any graphical mode for that05:05
folorncould someone point me in the right direction of a good web camera application besides cheese ...it just don't seem to wanna ever load, so any recommendations would be most helpful please.05:06
HowdyDoodyI am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"05:07
patriotpie!give folorn g camorama05:07
* LaRock gives folorn a rugby ball05:07
ubottupatriotpie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:07
DmnchildHow does one stop a process that does not want to be stopped? For lack of finding the correct command for it, I tried to kill via processes, and it still won't let me (rtorrent)05:07
patriotpiegoogle.com/?q=camorama05:08
bashinatefolorn: vlc can capture webcam05:08
seeqwellhttps://paterva.com/web6/community/maltego/ is it just me or is this a bad site to enter?05:08
seeqwellmaltego05:08
asilhouetteDmnchild: did you try killall05:09
bashinatekillall the things05:09
asilhouette!killall05:09
folornany ideas on what i could get ...anyone?05:10
DmnchildWhat would correct usage be of killall?05:10
somsipDmnchild: man killall05:11
seeqwellanyone?  check it is it just me? https://paterva.com/web6/community/maltego/05:11
somsipseeqwell: use http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/05:11
zygopteraDmnchild; a system shutdown will kill all processes that can be killed05:11
DmnchildWell, I'm trying to edit a file and I can not, so assuming its being locked by the program it pertains to.05:12
seeqwellim not talking about being down somsip I'm talking about a cert issue05:12
somsipseeqwell: you're asking people to check a possibly compromised site for you? Think about this for a moment...05:12
seeqwellI didn't say enter the site05:13
lasindicub, I'll give it a shot. I'm going to run an md5sum on the DVD05:13
bashinateseeqwell: yes, it has a warning05:13
seeqwellim asking is it me or does everyone else see that its a bad site could be my proxy yanno05:13
cubyes that would be a good idea05:13
seeqwellok bashinate thanks05:13
cubsometimes it's just a bad burn, had this happen a few times05:13
bashinatenow stop phishing :)05:13
cfhowlettdownforeveryoneorjustme.com is a useful site ...05:13
cubwhen in doubt, use a new DVD (preferably something not rw) and try aain05:13
asilhouetteDmnchild: may be the file needs sudo to edit05:14
bashinatedmnchild: how are you trying to edit the file ?05:14
Dmnchildtextedit via guy losin. currently as the root.05:15
Dmnchilderm damn auto corrent05:15
Dmnchildgui login05:15
bashinateas long as your running it was root that should be fine05:16
asilhouettecan you paste the command you are trying Dmnchild05:16
blindingdawnIs there anyway to address more than one bluetooth HCI at the same time?05:16
folornhmm so no ideas?05:16
DmnchildHm, think I got it to work. didn't kick back an error with sudo nano in terminal05:17
DmnchildYep worked. I need to just learn more of all the commands so i can keep to the SSH login instead of remote desktop ;p05:19
tokieso, i'm new to ubuntu, what are some things i will need to know?05:22
cfhowletttokie, *gently* How to ask a question to get specific information?05:23
zygopteratokie >> that ubuntu has built-in spyware05:23
tokiei'm using backbox 305:24
cfhowletttokie, not supported here.  sorry.05:24
DWSRWhat's the easiest way to remove all but the most recent version of the kernel?05:24
cfhowlettDWSR, I think you can do that in the software center ...05:25
DWSRcfhowlett: No Unity.05:25
cfhowlettDWSR, USS doesn't require unity ...05:25
DWSRcfhowlett: What I meant was, no GUI.05:26
DWSRI have no X.05:26
cfhowlettDWSR, what desktop environment are you using?05:26
DWSRI'm not.05:26
TheLordOfTimeDWSR, command line?05:26
DWSRTheLordOfTime: Yes.05:26
TheLordOfTimecfhowlett, ^05:26
tokiewhy is it not supported here?05:26
kouriinuis there a chat room i can get help with wine or playonlinux ?05:26
TheLordOfTimeDWSR, you'd need to get a list of what kernels you have installed firstly.05:26
TheLordOfTimeDWSR, i don't know the command offhand to do that in the command line05:26
DWSRkouriinu: Wine has an IRC channel.05:26
TheLordOfTimeDWSR, once you have that list, you can sudo apt-get remove [packages]05:27
somsipDWSR: dpkg --get_selections | grep linux05:27
somsip*--get-selections05:27
kouriinuis it #wine?05:27
TheLordOfTimejust don't remove the latest kernel packages ;)05:27
DWSRsomsip: That's to just get a list of kernels?05:27
somsipDWSR: source and headers and kernels. The often come in sets05:27
kouriinuor does anyone know how to get to the wine channel05:28
zykotick9kouriinu: /join #winehq05:28
somsipDWSR: then uname -r, and remove any taht aren't the same. With care :)05:28
DWSRI have a kernel that's older than the latest installed on my system.05:29
DWSRherp05:29
kouriinuthere is no one in there05:29
DWSRs/have/am using/05:29
kouriinuis there a place with someone in it05:29
DWSRkouriinu: http://www.winehq.org/irc05:30
DWSRkouriinu: There is definitely people in there at the moment.05:30
somsipDWSR: law of diminishing returns. If you don't need to remove it, it's not doing any harm. Otherwise just sudo apt-get remove linux-image-{package number}05:30
DWSRsomsip: Freeing up disk space.05:30
kouriinui will do my best to get in there05:31
malkauns;;ticker05:31
somsipDWSR: if you're that low on space, you may need to do more. sudo apt-get clean can often give a big immediate and safe freeing up of space05:32
DWSRsomsip: Already working on it.05:32
speedhai05:33
somsipDWSR: locales too05:33
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DWSRyea05:33
speedi am havving a problem with gnome05:33
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DWSRIt's a server, so I'm planning to strip everything down to essentials.05:33
DWSRany other kernels?05:33
Guest94090oops05:33
somsipDWSR: you know what you've got on there...05:33
DWSRsomsip: Are there any other kernels in the repos with different tunings?05:34
somsipDWSR: have you brought the server up to date before you start doing all of this?05:34
DWSRsomsip: Yes./05:34
DWSRdid dist-upgrade.05:34
Guest94090did i say gnome, i ment to say grub05:34
somsipDWSR: so you should have the most up to date kernel. *Should*05:34
Guest94090grub isnt showing windows 7 for me05:34
DWSRsomsip: Meh, haven't restarted the server yet.05:35
DWSRSo probalby just waiting for that05:35
Guest94090nevermind05:36
Guest94090i found what to do05:36
Guest94090i feel dumb bow05:36
Guest94090now*05:36
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shivhey05:37
gnomefreakhi05:38
gnomefreaknice and quiet in here tonight05:39
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kouriinuyeah no i cant get into the winehq irc05:44
DWSRThen you're doing something wrong.05:45
DWSRIt works just fine.05:45
IveBeenBitCan anyone tell me how to rig it so the screen scrolls faster when I use the mouse wheel?05:47
bravis /plugins05:47
kouriinumy server comes up with an error05:48
xrsIveBeenBit,  go into launcher -> settings -> settings manager -> Mouse and touchpad (make sure your adjusting the correct mouse)05:49
kouriinunope05:49
kouriinuif i could id show you a screen shot05:49
doanHello, does anyone know a way to keep the aspect ratio in my games ? I wanna play in a fullscreen mode with a resolution of 800x600 and a 4:3 aspect ratio. But the only was I succeed to run the game in fullscreen  it's with the native resolution of my WIDESCREEN monitor.05:49
kouriinuit says no one is in here05:49
kouriinuso i dont know whats wrong05:49
doanrunning with 304.51 nVidia proprietary driver05:49
IveBeenBitxrs, Thanks, but there is no setting there for the mouse wheel. Maybe I need a new driver?05:49
somsipkouriinu: Channel #winehq created Sun Nov 26 13:42:43 200605:50
kouriinui know i have tried typing that in i am using mibbit05:50
kouriinuwhen i click on it it makes me choose mibbit and i click on it and it comes up and it says 1 person05:50
somsipkouriinu: what you're asking is not ubuntu related and I have no idea what mibbit is. And I don't want to know.05:51
asilhouettei'm having alot of FC's on my software center relating to xbin/aptd. any help?05:52
tripelbProblem: i want a dualboot of windows and ubuntu, actually lubuntu. --- I have an old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled windows after a problem that led to a grub recovery> prompt. and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. 05:56
DWSRIs server and desktop kernel the same still?05:56
somsipDWSR: yes05:57
tripelbProblem: i want a dualboot of windows and ubuntu, actually lubuntu. --- I have an old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled windows after a problem that led to a grub recovery> prompt. and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. 05:57
DWSRWhat flavours of the ubuntu kernel are there? I see generic and lowlatency.05:57
Ben64!patience | tripelb05:57
ubottutripelb: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:57
tripelbCorrected.05:57
osirisx11hi all, how can i start an openvpn connection after my wifi connects?05:58
tripelbThanks Ben. I saw an error I needed to fix.05:58
tripelbBen64 from tripelb4405:59
Ben64tripelb: you posted the same thing twice05:59
xrstripelb,  i already told you what to do. use a live disk to boot the machine and remove the ubuntu partition and resize the windows partition with gparted. then use a windows disk to boot the machine and run windows boot repair06:03
xrstripelb,  http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/startup-repair06:05
KaedalusHello.06:07
KaedalusIs anyone there?06:07
xrsyes06:07
KaedalusI'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on VirtualBox, trying to use GIMX to emulate my Sixaxis on my PS306:08
KaedalusThe host is a Windows 7 64-bit computer. I'm trying to make the virtual machine use the bluetooth dongle.06:08
xrsyup. you have more money than i do sorry.   all i can do is google for you06:09
xrsdo you have bluman installed?06:09
|nv|s|b|elol06:09
KaedalusOh, I just have one question...06:09
KaedalusOn the top bar06:09
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KaedalusIt shows the bluetooth symbol - and it says it's turned on. You can turn it on and off there, by the dropdown menu, but if you access the actual Bluetooth Configuration, it is always OFF and can't be turned ON.06:10
KaedalusI can't find anything like that around - I may be a terrible googler though. x_x''06:10
asilhouetteanybody help with Software Center FCs06:11
xrswell lets open a terminal window and type "lsusb -v"06:11
xrsthat should tell us what chipset the bluetooth is, then we can google that06:12
asilhouetteSoftware center doesn't open at all. it just pops up lots of submit error messages06:12
ThorbinatorSeven_Six_Two: thanks for the help earlier, turns out I need more ram06:12
Kaedalusxrs, did it. That's... quite a lot of info.06:13
xrsasilhouette,  open a terminal window and run sudo apt-get remove software-center06:13
KaedalusI made it visible already, and it is listed under the connected USB devices, and on the top it says06:13
KaedalusOops.06:13
KaedalusWrong paste.06:13
xrs!paste | Kaedalus06:14
ubottuKaedalus: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:14
asilhouettexrs i did a reinstall didn't work, update-manager is broken too06:14
KaedalusShould I post it all?06:14
xrsif you cant tell what the chipset is, yeah paste it to pastebin and ill have a look06:14
asilhouettegoing to try synaptics complete removal and see how it goes06:15
xrsasilhouette,  do you have backups?06:15
asilhouettebackups of?06:16
stevo_steam ported counter strike 1.6 to linux for anybody that is interested :)06:16
Kaedalushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1579068/06:16
xrsyour important data06:16
asilhouettei'm just going to remove software center, is that going to mess with the data06:16
asilhouettedid you mean the software installed list06:17
asilhouettesynaptic will have that won't it?06:17
doanstevo_, trying to run the game in 4:3 ratio resolution on a widescreen but I cant06:18
doanstevo_, can you ?06:18
Ben64why would you want black bars on the sides06:18
stevo_@doan , not sure i'll have to give it a try , i'm currently running it in window mode06:18
xrsKaedalus,  my bad, the -v switch was unnessesary. lets run just lsusb without the -v06:19
KaedalusOkay.06:19
cfhowlettstevo_, sadly, steam beta won't see my internet connection, so non-usable06:20
Kaedalusxrs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1579072/ There you go06:20
doanstevo_, in windowed mode it works. Try it with fullscreen mode please06:22
xrsKaedalus,  this is what i have found out so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/99275706:27
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ubottuUbuntu bug 992757 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth Adapter not recognized (precise)" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:27
xrsyou should add yourself to the list of ppl affected06:27
KaedalusOh boy...06:28
xrsdealextreme claims it works out of the box06:28
KaedalusI see...06:28
KaedalusThanks for the help.06:28
KaedalusAs it worked on LinuxMint, I thought it'd work on Ubuntu, heh.06:29
Ben64but its a vm06:29
KaedalusI tried some things before moving to a VM.06:29
xrsyeah changing back over to mint would probably be cheaper than buying a new bluetooth dongle06:30
dr_willisWeird that a BT dongle dosent work on the same kernel on differnt disrtos.06:30
dr_willisUnless theres just some patch thats working its way down the line06:30
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KaedalusThanks again guys.06:31
KaedalusI guess I'll rent the game for another day - no time to download and set mint up now.06:31
KaedalusThank you very much for your help!!06:31
xrsnp06:31
KaedalusGood night to y'all. (:06:31
xrsgnight'06:32
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STSwmhello06:33
dr_willisjello06:33
folornhmm06:48
folornive got my screen recorder working but cheese still wont work anyone up for helping some?06:48
waqarrhello06:50
zxzhi06:51
waqarrneed a help about ubuntu06:51
cfhowlettwaqarr, greetings06:51
waqarranybody support me06:51
cfhowlettwaqarr, ask with details06:51
waqarri have a samsung galaxy s2 i want to install ubuntu phone in my samsung i like this OS06:52
dr_willisfrom what ive seen.. if a webcam dont work with cheese.. it tends to be totally unsupported by linux. But theres always new kernel updates that may add support later.06:52
dr_williswaqarr:  last i looked theres no official ubuntu-phone os to install.06:52
cfhowlett!phone|waqarr,06:52
ubottuwaqarr,: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone06:52
dr_williswaqarr:  just those vm/chroot/vnc things in teh market place06:52
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cfhowlettwaqarr, an ISO for phone is supposedly coming out next month.  check in the #ubuntu-phone forum06:53
waqarris there any posibility to install ubuntu phone into my phone.06:53
waqarrjust for testing06:53
dr_williswaqarr:  last i looked theres no official ubuntu-phone os to install.  yet06:53
dr_willisso thats a NO at this time06:53
zxzthere is no official relise06:53
waqarrwhen it will release for public...06:53
waqarr?06:54
cfhowlettwaqarr, ask in the other channel!  #ubuntu-phone06:54
dr_williswe DONT know06:54
zxzwe are waiting..06:54
dr_willisand i imagine when its released it will be for VERY specific phones at the start06:54
tripelbxrs: thanks06:54
kostkonfolorn, try guvcview06:55
cfhowlettdr_jesus, exactomundo!06:55
zxzirc chat is very cool06:55
zxzlearn new things06:55
tripelbDo you know how I can connect with the ubuntu-on-the-nexus-7 community? Because I am not going to do it till I get plugged in.06:56
dr_willisi really cant see much need for me for  the ubuntu phone. ;) all i do all day on my phone is IRC.06:56
cfhowlettzxz, have you a specific support question?06:56
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xrsyour be the digital master in no time06:56
zxzno06:56
xrs!ot06:56
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:56
dr_willistripelb:  they hang in #ubuntu-arm i belive06:56
cfhowletttripelb, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation06:56
tripelbzxz: welcome to IRC chat at freenode,. Outside of here lurk sexbots and evil wars and endless boring conversations. Of course YMMV.06:57
zxztripelb: :D :D06:57
tripelbThanks dr_willis I figured you might know.06:58
tripelbcfhowlett: will do.06:58
dr_willisBeen tempted to get a Nexus7.. but just hard to justify one for playing with Ubuntu on it. ;) Plus the kids will take it from me.06:58
tripelbNext step, root.06:59
zxzis there any possible way to get this chat for sybian07:00
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kostkonzxz, offtopic question. but, yes, there are irc clients for symbian, just google.07:01
zxzkostkon: tnx07:01
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zxzis it possible to run ubuntu with 198mb ram ?07:03
cfhowlettzxz, don't think so.  I think 500 m is the minimum requireement07:03
dr_williszxz:  perhaps lubuntu may work.. but it would be tight07:04
zxzactually i tried and it load the X but only..07:04
dr_willisand getting any real work done. would  be painfull07:04
zxzand doesnt respond07:04
zxzpff my cat07:05
zxzis there any way to write camera driver on ubuntu ?07:06
kostkonzxz, if you know c and know or willing to learn how to write linux device drivers, then yes07:08
xrsit is possible to run with 198 ram if you have swap space, the computer will be swapping at all times and it will be unbearably slow, but yes it will boot and yes it will run apps07:08
zxzi know asembly so07:08
zxzwhere is driver placed ?07:08
JammoBlammoC:\pagefile.sys07:09
xrsnot helpful07:09
zxzwhat ?07:09
CapneonHi07:10
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dr_willisI belive most all of the webcam drivers for linux are written by a small group of people (2-3?)  Its aparently not a trivial thing. ;)07:12
zxzmhm07:12
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thurstonGood day. I am running 12.10; each time I log back into my laptop I find that I always have to re-authenticate my wifi settings. Is there anyway to do this once and to have these stored?07:25
zykotick9thurston: are you using autologin?07:25
thurstonzykotick9: No. I prefer to always type my password07:26
zykotick9thurston: odd.  sorry don't know then.07:27
thurstonzykotick9: Thanks buddy!07:28
dr_willisit definatly rembers here on 12.1007:29
dr_willisYou havent disabled the gnome-keyring?07:29
dr_willisI seem to recall a check box or setting in network manager also for 'allow users, or all users' or somthing like that also.07:29
cfhowlettdr_willis, I think that's a user permission setting07:31
misterehello.. i need the help about file sharing07:31
mistereanyone help me07:31
aeon-ltd!ask07:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:31
dr_willisyea. ive never had to mess with it. it defaintly rembers and auto connects to my wireless network on power up.  user dosent even need to login here.07:31
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dr_willismistere:  give us some details and see who can help07:32
misterewhen i sharing files between both ubuntu 12.04 a password section show. i enter password again and again but the password show again and again07:32
dr_willisshareing how exactly.07:33
misterefile sharing07:33
dr_willisand if you are using samba, you did give the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'  ?07:33
anthony__i need help putting a making a07:33
misterefile sharing between laptop and pc07:33
anthony__sory. hit enter too soon07:33
dr_willis'file shareing' can be done a dozen ways.. ;)07:33
misteredr_willis, when i enter this command then show error"Failed to add entry for user **"07:34
dr_willismistere:  what command did you use exactly?07:35
anthony__i need help making a bootable usb with ubuntu 11.10 on it. i am using my brothers windows laptop. i used the pendrive linux program that ubuntus website said too. t my computer just wont boot it07:35
dr_willisanthony__:  the pendrivelinux site has a dozen differnt tools you could try.  test the pendrive out on  other pcs if you can. it may be a pc issue. not a pendrive issue07:36
misteresudo smbpasswd -a user07:36
dr_willismistere:  you DID use the proper username?07:36
misteredr_willis, yes07:36
aeon-ltdanthony__: check if the BIOS supports usb boot aswell07:36
dr_willisNo idea then. unless you got some goofy users07:36
anthony__i only have this laptop. and only for tonight. ill try out t07:36
mistereanthony__, check the boot sequnce07:37
misteredr_willis, now what is the problem?07:38
anthony__well i booted from a usb before. i made that bootable by using the usb creator on ubuntu . it worked ok but im missing drivers on my ubuntu now. i thin its cause i did a downgrade from 12.10. 12.10 didnt work well on my computer because my  video card wasnt goood enough07:39
dr_willismistere:  no idea. try making a guest share and see if it works. I normally just set up home shares for the users via editing the smb.conf file. you should be able to set a samba password however.07:39
cfhowlettanthony__, what do you have installed now?07:39
dr_willisIve never seen the failed to add entry... error07:39
BillyZanehi07:40
dr_willisfor a Ubuntu to Ubuntu shareing. you could set up sshfs also. or if you want to get fancy. setup nfs.07:40
cfhowlettBillyZane, greetings07:40
dr_willisthe samba logs in /var/log/ may give a clue why the shares are failing also07:40
BillyZanehi cfhowlett07:41
BillyZanehow's it going dr_jesus07:41
BillyZaneerr dr_willis07:41
anthony__right now i hve 11.10 on it. but i think im missing drivers because i cant onnect to the interet and i cant mount a usb. so im going to try installing it again but it not working well on the POS laptop07:41
misteredr_willis, thanks i'll try myself07:41
dr_willisThey really need to smarten up Tab Completion on irc clients to put the  nicks in order of who last chatted. ;)07:41
cfhowlettanthony__, 11.10 has only  a few months of life left.  Why not install the 12.04 Long Term Support version?07:41
MayazcherquoiHey guys. What would be the best Ubuntu version for a computer newbie migrating from Windows? 12.04, or would the newer featureset in 12.10 be ideal? Keep in mind that it has nVidia hardware on it.07:42
BillyZaneI have a question... i'm trying to install software that I have on a .iso file. I managed to mount the .iso file, but when i go in to the directory and type install , i get the error07:42
mistereanyone tell me how i install and config the XEN for virtualtion in Ubuntu07:42
mistere?07:42
dr_willis!xen07:43
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen07:43
anthony__because 11.10 was my favorite. wat hppens when the support runs out though. does it just not get any more updates or does it "die"07:43
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dr_willis!eol07:43
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:43
dr_willisit goes EOL. ;)07:43
Mayazcherquoidr_willis: You seem knowledgeable. Care to answer my query? :)07:44
ClientAliveis there some plan for ubuntu to support secure boot? Is it supported in 12.04 now?07:44
dr_willis!11.1007:44
cfhowlettanthony__, zombie OS might be one way to picture it.07:44
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/111007:44
cfhowlett!uefi|ClientAlive,07:44
ubottuClientAlive,: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:44
dr_willis!oneriric07:44
cfhowlett!oneric07:45
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/111007:45
ClientAlivecool. thx07:45
dr_willisfactoids dont say when it goes EOL. ;)07:45
Mayazcherquoi:-/07:45
anthony__well ill probably go with 12.04 then. 11.10 and 12.04 were pretty similar. so i gues ill go with the lts of that. i still have the problem of booting it to my computer from my usb tho. lol07:45
dr_willisMayazcherquoi:  depends on your needs. - you want latest stuff go latest.. you want long term support go LTS07:45
Mayazcherquoidr_willis: I am trying to think from a usability stand point.07:46
cfhowlettanthony__, 12.04 will boot from USB but there are options ... PXE for one07:46
dr_willisMayazcherquoi:  i doubt if it will matter much07:46
MayazcherquoiWill a newbie-computer user, one that does not use social networks, benefit from an upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04?07:46
anthony__what do u mean?07:46
Mayazcherquoianthony__: PXE boot == network boot.07:47
dr_willisMayazcherquoi:  newer software and updated features in what you do use..07:47
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, IMHO, no.07:47
Mayazcherquoicfhowlett: Okay. Thank you.07:47
kostkonMayazcherquoi, not really. go with 12.04. 5 years of support.07:47
dr_willisso it depends on what you DO. not what you 'dont do'07:47
anthony__o. well my omputer wont connect to my network. so thats probly outts the questiin lol07:47
MayazcherquoiI have also read that trouble is encountered whilst trying to install nVidia drivers in 12.10. Is this also the case for 12.04?07:47
kostkonMayazcherquoi, ?07:48
dr_willisMayazcherquoi:  it can depend on the exact nvidia chipset07:48
dr_willisi have very few issues with nvidia on any of the last 5+ releases07:48
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, not much difference between Nvidia on 12.04 and 12.1007:48
Mayazcherquoidr_willis: Browse the web, look at YouTube, edit word documents.07:48
dr_willisMayazcherquoi:  libreoffice will be newer in 12.10 if thats imporntant to you07:48
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi,  or you can install libreoffice in 12.0407:49
aeon-ltdis there a ubuntu rolling release version?07:49
Mayazcherquoidr_willis: Okay. From your expert opinion, if you were in position, which direction would you go (Latest stable, or LTS)?07:49
dr_willisaeon-ltd:  no there is not.07:49
cfhowlettaeon-ltd, no.07:49
Mayazcherquoiaeon-ltd: No.07:49
dr_willisMayazcherquoi:  i never stick with LTS. i dont see much point in it for a home user.07:49
aeon-ltdseems it would benefit those who don't like large changes to their distro07:49
MayazcherquoiOkay. Thank you.07:50
cfhowlettaeon-ltd, then they should just use LTS07:50
dr_willisaeon-ltd:  and be a detriment when you update and some app stops working.. till the next weeks updates.. ;)07:50
MayazcherquoiWould it be possible to somehow tune Ubuntu to use the latest PPA for software such as LibreOffice, and say Firefox?07:51
BillyZanedr_willis: why do i have to type ./install to run the install file?07:51
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, sure07:51
cfhowlett!ppa|Mayazcherquoi, sure07:51
ubottuMayazcherquoi, sure: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:51
Mayazcherquoicfhowlett: Would I have to change the PPA to another, or later version?07:51
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, You mean after upgrading to a new ubuntu?07:52
MayazcherquoiNo. Whilst in 12.0407:52
MayazcherquoiInstead of only getting security fixes07:52
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, you can add ppa and as those ppa's get updated, you can update them as well.07:53
meghacan some ome highligh me ?07:53
MayazcherquoiOkay, cheers.07:53
Mayazcherquoi:)07:53
Mayazcherquoicfhowlett: Oh, hang on. One last question.07:53
helmut_hi07:53
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, go ahead07:53
MayazcherquoiI read that 12.10 ships with a nicer GRUB interface. Any way to get this backported to 12.04?07:53
Mayazcherquoi(I am just thinking for simplicity sake)07:54
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, enable backports in your software center and it might come down.  or you can manually/carefully edit your grub interface07:54
mizzHello PPL on IRC07:54
Mayazcherquoicfhowlett: Okay, ta.07:54
awisepilotI am having problem ssh to a new KVM I setup with a static IP07:54
Mayazcherquoicfhowlett: Ta :-)07:54
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, although for an interface that you'll view for only a few seconds per use ...07:55
cfhowlettmizz, greetings.07:55
Mayazcherquoicfhowlett: I dunno. I'm just thinking in case an accident happens, and whatnot.07:55
awisepilotHow do I SSH to a new KVM guest?07:55
cfhowlettMayazcherquoi, noted07:55
ClientAliveok, deleting the partitions and starting fresh sounded like a good way to go for me. I did that. Can anyone recommend a new partition layout? Do I need more than one massive formatted space considering Ubuntu to be installed after this too?07:56
awisepilotvirst list --all shows it running07:56
cfhowlettClientAlive, depends on your arrangement.  Ubuntu only on this machine?07:56
curseorangei just deleted like 40gb of stuff... but when i look at my available space it hasnt changed, any ideas?07:56
saju_mCould you please check this and suggest a solution http://dpaste.com/894987/07:56
ClientAliveI want a dual boot system with this win 8 pro and Ubuntu 12.04 desktop07:56
cfhowlettClientAlive, ah.  I've got to bail out.  Have no experience with win8 but it seems not to play well with others ...07:57
xrssaju_m,  what is your desired outcome?07:57
awisepilotAnyone familar with KVM guest on 12.04 server?07:57
ClientAliveI guess what I'm thinking about is the efi partition but don't know much about how that works (if it's separate unto itself or not)07:57
BillyZanei'm trying to install software on ubuntu from an iso. I want to install it to /usr/local/MATLAB/R2012b/ , however, it says permission denied to create folder. I created the folder with mkdir manually, so the foldiers exist, but I still get a permission error. What should I do to give it super user access?07:57
ClientAlivedo I need to create a separate efi partition?07:58
mistereanyone?07:58
mistereanyone tell me how i install and config the XEN for virtualtion in Ubuntu?07:58
awisepilotDoesnt appear anyone knows VM07:59
saju_m<xrs> I waht to check proxy server authentication without browser07:59
awisepilotI have a problem with VM using KVM07:59
curseorangei just deleted like 40gb of stuff... but when i look at my available space it hasnt changed, any ideas?07:59
awisepilotvirst, qemu07:59
cfhowlettcurseorange, empty your trash07:59
awisepilotits in your trash07:59
curseorangemy trash is empty cfhowlett07:59
awisepilottry temp files08:00
curseorangewheres that?08:00
mizzwipe your free space08:00
cfhowlettcurseorange, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove08:00
saju_m<xrs> I tried $ squidclient -h 192.168.1.6 -u saju -w saju08:00
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saju_m<xrs> but getting error ,   <p>The following error was encountered while trying to retrieve the URL: <a href="saju">saju</a></p>08:00
zykotick9awisepilot: are you sure your static ip is valid/working?  is it in the same network as your host?  by default i'd guess your kvm is using NAT.08:01
mistereawisepilot, use "sudo apt-get purge filename "08:01
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misteresaju_m, use <a href="#">saju</a>08:02
saju_m<mistere> i can't edit that08:03
saju_m<mistere> see http://dpaste.com/895029/08:04
awisepilotzykotick9 - br0 is 192.168.2.178, bcast 192.168.2.255, net 192.168.2.0, mask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.2.1, eth0 is physical interface, guest kvm is vnet0, virbr0 is 192.168.122.108:04
dr_willisBillyZane:  to write to system directories you will need to run the installer as root via sudo08:05
zykotick9awisepilot: wow, that looks pretty valid.  are you sure network-manager isn't messing with things?  does your eth0 have an ip currently (it shouldn't btw)?08:05
dr_willisBillyZane:  it may be safer to let the user install it in their own home directory08:05
NewUser_how can i know my ipv6 range?08:08
zykotick9awisepilot: oh, how are you starting your vm?  try with sudo.08:08
awisepilotHere is my vmbuilder script - http://pastebin.com/phEG9x6t08:09
zykotick9awisepilot: i've never used vmbuilder before... and don't visit pastebin.com.  so best of luck.08:10
levowhat's the most fancy style?08:11
levognome, xfce ,  unity?08:11
levoor any other one/08:11
levofancy desktop08:11
cfhowlettlevo, style?  you mean desktop environment?08:11
levoyes08:11
cfhowlettlevo all are adaptable and customizable.  Install them on your box for free and see08:12
cfhowlettlevo, and don't forget lxde08:12
levohow is it?08:12
cfhowlettlevo, sudo apt-get install lxde08:13
levoif i install it , can i use my previous desktop as well?08:13
xrsxfce is better08:13
xrsyes08:13
levoi'm looking for a pretty one08:13
cfhowlettlevo, yes.  when you logout you can choose which to use08:13
levounity isn't flexible08:13
levoi'm using 12.0408:14
xrskde has the most eye candy. xfce is the best08:14
levowhat's the benefits of xfce ? and its difference with lxde?08:14
xrskinda like mac vs windows08:15
awisepilotDoes anyone know how to troubleshoot vmbuilder kvm that will not ssh to the new created running guest?08:15
cfhowlettlevo, dude.  Just install and try them out for yourself and/or please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic08:15
levook08:15
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levothanx08:15
cfhowlettlevhttp://travel.cnn.com/okinawa-restaurant-order-508481?hpt=hp_bn608:15
cfhowlett.o, thank you08:15
aeon-ltdlevo: a lot, xfce has a whole different set of apps, lxde is just openbox and lxpanel with some applications08:15
* cfhowlett errr, please ignore that pasted link in the corner ...08:15
aeon-ltd...08:16
awisepilotIs there a different channel for ubuntu virtual machine issues?08:16
gnomefreakawisepilot: no not that i am aware of08:17
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gnomefreakawisepilot: just ask your question and if someone can answer it they will08:17
awisepilotI guess it must be a bad night.  I cann't find anyone that can help with my question.08:17
awisepilotI'll try one more time.08:18
cfhowlettawisepilot, volunteers are we.  not all knowing experts08:18
awisepilotYes, I know and I appreciate the fact this is here.08:19
aeon-ltdawisepilot: if you haven't got any help for the last few days, just post on the forum. better than waiting here08:19
cfhowlettawisepilot, check the forums as well and maybe even #ubuntu-server08:19
awisepilotLet me try posting to the forum.08:20
saju_mI tried with diff options:  $ squidclient -h 192.168.1.6 -p 3128 -u saju -w saju http://www.python.org08:23
saju_mit giving error Sorry, you are not currently allowed to request http://www.python.org/ from this cache until you have authenticated yourself.08:23
saju_msee http://dpaste.com/895135/08:23
RAcEBOTi forgot the wireless password for my router so i ran a  wirelesspasswordviewer program and the  password show up as "abc899823dae3289489de8293982aa832923a" : why is it showing like this08:26
cfhowlettRAcEBOT, not an ubuntu question.  sorry08:27
aeon-ltdhash08:27
kristian-aalborgcheers08:27
cfhowlettkristian-aalborg, greetings08:27
xrsRAcEBOT,  https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/08:28
RAcEBOTwrs that website does not help me08:28
kristian-aalborgI just had a scare... My box booted and performed a disk check... which is okay, of course... but THEN it rebooted and gave me a text grub08:28
cfhowlettkristian-aalborg, and ... ?08:28
kristian-aalborgI just started the usual flavor, and it booted as usual (but a bit slower)08:28
xrsRAcEBOT,  no but the ISO you download from there has everything you've been asking for and more all night. you would have had this done by now had you tried it.08:29
aeon-ltdRAcEBOT: the easiest way, would be to just plug into your router with eth then go to it's ip and look it up08:29
kristian-aalborgthe machine should not reboot after a disk check!08:29
cfhowlettkristian-aalborg, NO reboot at all?08:29
kristian-aalborgcfhowlett, it should just resume the boot after the check, I believe?08:30
cfhowlettkristian-aalborg, that is the normal behavior..  If not, do a hard reboot08:30
red82wow, big channel08:31
kristian-aalborgcfhowlett, ah, I'm relieved now08:31
yellabs-r2ah i already found the answer ..08:31
yellabs-r2:P08:31
dr_willisactually ive seen 3000+ on here on release day08:32
kristian-aalborgI forgot that... I was thinking my box was in trouble08:32
kristian-aalborgOVER THREE THOUSAND08:32
gnomefreakno just lots of people in a room that is about 8' by 8'08:32
yellabs-r2and how many people use the internet ?08:32
yellabs-r2a bit more.. LOL08:32
dr_willisyellabs-r2:  its all cats...08:32
yellabs-r2and mouse08:33
yellabs-r2:)08:33
dogearsJust did a clean install with 12.10 but my old /home will not logon. Just returns to the login screen?08:33
cfhowlettdogears, no error message?08:34
dr_willisdogears:  try the console login08:34
dogearsdr_willis: can login by the console08:34
dr_willistry cleaning out some of your old settings. and check ownership of the .xauthority file (i think thats the name)08:34
dogearscfhowlett: no error message. a flash of text in the top corner then back to the login page08:35
dogearsdr_willis: I had a problem with NX server prior to killing the old install and have not been able to logon since.08:36
Salman18Hello everyone08:37
dogearsdr_willis: Can I just delete any reference to NX server?08:37
dr_willisyou could make a new user - see if eveyrthing works with them08:37
cfhowlettSalman18, greetings08:37
dr_willisIve never used nx. so no idea on that.08:37
Salman18Greetings08:37
dogearsdr_willis: Will start removing old settings and se if I can get in. Thanks08:38
keelGlol was that even  your suggestion dr_willis?08:39
Salman18How can I register08:39
dr_willis!register08:40
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode08:40
Salman18What can I type08:41
dr_willis type /join #freenode08:42
dr_willisand they will help you08:42
Salman18Ok08:42
dr_willisor read the url above and follow directions. ;)08:42
sarujihello, quick question or rather a problem, ubuntu software center comes up as a white page, nothing on it....08:43
sarujiany ideas for a resolve08:43
sarujithank you08:43
Salman18Done register08:43
dr_willistry a  update and upgrade via the command line. and restart softeare center perhaps saruji  it may  straighten it out08:44
Salman18This is channel for which08:44
Ademandist-upgrade -ing from 10.04 to 12.04, I don't consider it particularly promising that a dialog popped up where every character was an empty square (not even the kind of square where it has the character code in it...)08:44
cfhowlettSalman18, this channel for ubuntu08:44
sarujidr_willis, what command do i use?  just sudo apt-get update?08:44
Ademanat least the machine I'm upgrading is no longer my main machine...08:44
dr_willissaruji:  yes. then sudo apt-get upgrade08:44
cfhowlettAdeman, better to download the iso via torrent and do a clean install ... IMHO08:45
Salman18Ubunt mean?08:45
Salman18For computers08:45
Ademancfhowlett: yeah, I keep being bitten by bad dist upgrades, but I keep doing it :-/08:45
cfhowlett!ubuntu|Salman18,08:45
ubottuSalman18,: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com08:45
zykotick9Ademan: that's not what dist-upgrade does...  see "/msg ubottu dist-upgrade" for details on what it actually is08:45
cfhowlettAdeman, switch to LTS only and do clean dist upgrades only every 2 years ...08:46
Salman18!ok08:46
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)08:46
Ademanzykotick9: not literally doing apt-get dist-upgrade, using the update-manager08:46
Salman18😂08:46
Salman18Any problem please tell me08:46
Ademancfhowlett: that's exactly what I'm doing, 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS hehe08:46
Salman18Mouse problem key problem please tell me08:47
cfhowlettAdeman, OK.  well, then, torrent away, make a usb and upgrade that distro!08:47
dr_willisSalman18:  give more details as to what you mwan.08:47
sarujidr_willis, did that now getting error "cd pandora && chmod +x setup.sh && ./setup.sh"08:48
Salman18My age 15 my name Salman08:48
Ademanzykotick9: btw you know you can !whatever > user to have ubottu PM people, right?08:48
dr_willissaruji:  Huh?   what does updateing the system have to do with Pandora?08:48
Salman18Windows 808:49
cfhowlettSalman18, this channel is for #ubuntu ... not windows08:49
ikoniaSalman18: do you have an issue/question about Ubuntu Linux ?08:49
Salman18ikonia: Yes08:49
sarujidr_willis, not sure, but i did this "cd pandora && chmod +x setup.sh && ./setup.sh" trying to install a pandora plugin for rythmbox08:50
ikoniaSalman18: then please ask the question08:50
Salman18ikonia: Ok08:50
Salman18ikonia: ?08:51
Salman18ikonia: Please give me chat room08:51
ikoniaSalman18: please ask your question, you are in the ubuntu chat room08:51
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folornhow do i downgrade the file priveleges on a certain folder ?08:51
Abhijitfolorn, chmod08:52
dr_willis!permissions | folorn08:52
Salman18Bÿé im leave08:52
ubottufolorn: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions08:52
Salman18I don't what this is going on08:52
BollsaqKdenlive crashes every time I click render. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10. Tried updating, ininstalling and reinstalling, no dice. Any suggestions?08:53
dr_willisBollsaq:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages08:53
Guest69964I would like counsel on how to help someone who has Windows Vista.  I have Ubuntu 12.10.  She has checked the option to accept help08:53
Ademandoes ubottu have a factoid for "if your native language is X go to #ubuntu-X etc..."08:53
Guest69964I would like to do that online08:53
cfhowlettAdeman, not that I've seen ...08:54
ikoniaAdeman: yes08:54
ikoniaAdeman: eg: french,08:54
Bollsaqdr_willis: Segmentation fault (core dumped)08:54
ikonia!fr | Ademan08:54
ubottuAdeman: Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.08:54
Ademanikonia: Sorry, I meant a generic one, !primary-language or something, that could direct people elsewhere when there seems to be a significant language barrier here08:55
cfhowlett!kdenlive|Bollsaq,08:55
cfhowlettBollsaq, ask in #kdenlive08:56
Bollsaqcfhowlett: don't you think that was the first place I asked???08:56
Ademanbasically an abridged version of !fr !de !cn etc compressed into one factoid08:56
cfhowlettBollsaq, hey, uh, bollsaq?  attitude ...08:56
Ademanso you don't have to figure out what somebody's native language is before picking the factoid08:56
cfhowlettBollsaq, you asked for help, I suggested a resource since no other help was offered ...08:57
lhavelundAdeman: Unnecessary. Additionally, this conversation is offtopic for this channel.08:57
Bollsaqcfhowlett: I had the impression you were giving me attitude, but thought the question here also was ok because its a slow chat atm08:57
xwalkDoes anyone have any experience getting the Logitech C525 to function properly with Ubuntu 12.04?08:58
cfhowlettBollsaq, ok.  no worries.  Also, maybe a kdenlive user in #ubuntustudio might be able to help out.08:58
Ademanlhavelund: I disagree, as if there's an insurmountable language barrier, then communicating to them "what's your native language" is difficult in and of itself. As for the off-topicness here, I'll drop it beyond this comment.08:59
nuxninjahi08:59
cfhowlettnuxninja, greetings08:59
Bollsaqcfhowlett: ok thanks09:00
cfhowlettBollsaq, I asked in #ubuntustudio but no response.  sorry09:00
Bollsaqcfhowlett: I think I'm gonna run a live session and save the files to where they're currently at and save the project file also and try again. if it works I'll just reinstall.09:01
Bollsaqcfhowlett: it would probably be faster that way anyhow.09:01
cfhowlettBollsaq, save early, save often.  dropbox or ubuntuone ... just in case ...09:02
sagacihow does one create a wallpaper folder that rotates wallpapers automatically? There is a default setting that rotates the included wallpapers, but no options for user-created folders09:02
nuxninjacfhowlett, matey cheers09:02
Bollsaqcfhowlett: I'm seeing if I can save the files to the same usb the live iso is on.09:03
dr_willissagaci:  there used to be a .xml file i recall that defined how they got rotated. i saw a script/tool ages ago on either omgubuntu or webupd8 that would generate such a .xml for you for a directory of images.09:04
dr_willissagaci:  or just use some wallpaper changer app09:04
dr_willishttp://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/create-wallpaper-slideshow-with-xml.html09:06
qasimi can't play blue ray videos please anyone help how to get through this problem09:07
jtruckshas anyone gotten courier-authdaemon + cyrus saslauthd to work with postfix on 12.04?09:07
nuxninjaqasim what gpu card u using........are u using vlc09:07
cfhowlettqasim, have you installed restricted-extras?09:08
hax0rWGMBnice one09:08
dr_willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD09:09
codephobichi09:12
cfhowlettcodephobic, greetings09:12
codephobichi cfhowlett09:13
nuxninjahi codephobic09:14
codephobicI'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and I have an AMD/ATI Radeon HD 3000 on-board gfx chip. Is it possible to get the desktop cube working with this card? I read that the proprietary Catalyst driver (12.6), isn't compatible with the current X-Server and most articles seem to just advice waiting for AMD to do something in the future...09:15
codephobichi nuxninja09:15
nuxninjahmmmmmmmmmmm09:16
nuxninjacodephobic but have you tried the amdccc 12.609:17
codephobicnuxninja, to be honest, I've stayed away from testing it out as I have had a few horrible issues with on-board gfx and proprietary drivers in linux (both debian squeeze and previous ubuntu had issues with my old nvidia drivers)09:19
ls89codephobic: They released catalyst 13.1 already.09:19
codephobicls89, I was just at the AMD website, checked for the latest driver for my Radeon HD3000 series and it was 12.609:19
sagacidr_willis, thanks for the tip09:19
ls89codephobic: 13.1 is working with the current X-server from 12.10, but it currently fails to switch to the integrated card. So, you have to stick with the dedicated then.09:20
nuxninjacodephobic nvidia has more problems than AMD on linux...i have been using amdccc for 4 years now.....no problems whatsoever.09:20
nuxninja13.1 is not recommended for Radeon 3000 only 12.6 is sagaci09:21
codephobicnuxninja, I experienced some of those problems first hand, when I had to install the proprietary drivers to get access to Compiz in Debian and Ubuntu09:21
ls89Oh, just read HD3000  thought the intel one.09:21
nuxninjacodephobic try it .... try and install amdccc 12.6..09:21
codephobicnuxninja, do you see any notable improvement in graphics speed and do you get the 3D cube stuff?09:22
ls89But the 13.1 is been released as legacy driver, too.09:22
nuxninjaim using Radeon 6790 with 13.1 ......rock solid. codephobic09:22
codephobicnuxninja, yes but AMD's Catalyst is supposed to work okay with 5000 series and up09:23
nuxninjatesting 650Ti with 310.19......works nicely but the usual black and white screens on compiz shift-switcher09:23
codephobicthe problem is particular to the "legacy" devices of the 2000-4000 series09:23
ixio2guys whats the best way to get the AMD drivers installed, I have an A8 APU I also need sound to go out via HDMI. I have, in the past had issues with sound using FGLRX, I have had success with AMD propietry beta drivers, but they have a watermark/overlay.. its been a few months and this is my first 12.10 installation so looking for advise09:23
nuxninjaNo AMDccc 12.6 is for Radeon 300009:24
nuxninjaixio2 same thing install amdccc 13.1 from amd.com website09:24
nuxninjahdmi only works with amdccc09:24
nuxninjacodephobic you have problems and so do i with 12.10 then try use 12.04 its rock solid09:25
codephobicnuxninja, that's what seems to be the advice ... go back to 12.04 :(09:25
ClientAliveI'm begging an ubuntu install to make it a dual boot win 8/Ubuntu 12.04 system. At the "installation type" prompt (with the ubuntu install) it tells me: "This computer currently has no detected operating systems..." But win 8 is on here. What do I do?09:26
qasimplease help me....i want  to play blue ray ripped MKV videos...but all i get choppy resolution and broken frames09:26
codephobicoh well, I'm going to have to have patience... either that or I'll buy a new graphics card :D09:26
ClientAlive*beginning*09:26
dr_willisqasim:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD09:26
nuxninjacodephobic Radeon 3000 is pretty old but very strong for compiz ...09:27
dr_willisClientAlive:  desktop or laptop?09:27
ClientAlivenew lappy09:27
SPYGAMEi've downloaded chrome .tar.gz 64 bit package from the site, how do i install it ?09:27
nuxninjaif you must then wait for HD885009:27
qasimdr_willis, i have already gone through that forum ...but couldnot find solution to my problem09:27
dr_willisClientAlive:  eww.. worse case scenerio ;)09:27
ClientAlivedr_willis: really?09:27
ClientAliveha ha09:27
nuxninjaqasim what graphics are u using09:27
dr_willisqasim:  you may wan tto check at askubuntu.com09:27
dr_willisClientAlive:   new cutting edge hardware.. new cuttine edge os that came out after 12.04 was released... :) Yes09:28
ixio2nuxninja: do I click on "latest beta driver" I dont see anything else linux related on their site ?09:28
dr_willisClientAlive:  its possible 12.10 or 13.04 may be smarter. but i dont plan on buying a laptop with win8 any time soon09:28
SPYGAMEdr_willis, i've downloaded chrome .tar.gz 64 bit package from the site, how do i install it ?09:28
ClientAlivedr_willis: hmm... Well I'm familiar with partitioning and all that but I don't want to whipe out the win 8 partition if it isn't recognized.09:28
dr_willisClientAlive:  gotten where when i do buy a laptop. i buy a  new HD for it just for linux. ;)09:28
dr_willisClientAlive:  then i clone or put the original hd somewhere safe. ;)09:29
nuxninjaNO ixio2 download for APU .....check website correctly it will guide you09:29
qasimnuxninja, im using standard xubuntu 12.10 graphics, though my graphics card is nvedia ge force 6400 but im not using its driver09:29
ClientAlivedr_willis: I see.09:29
codephobicClientAlive, I find that if grub doesn't locate an OS at install time, I can still work it either by using Windows bootloader or by updating grub using "apt-get install grub2; update-grub"09:29
dr_willisClientAlive:  last laptop i had.. suprised me.. it had spots for 2 hds ;)09:29
ixio2nuxninja "embedded graphics" ?09:29
dr_willisit also weighed like 16 lbs.. ;)09:29
ClientAlivedr_willis: mine does09:30
ClientAlivedr_willis:  well I don't really want a non lts relase so I'd like to find a soln09:30
nuxninjaqasim download from nvidia.com graphics for linux09:30
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codephobicnuxninja, sadly that "rock-solid" is only good for previous Ubuntu versions09:30
nuxninjacodephobic correct\09:30
dr_willisClientAlive:  try a gparted cd and see wht it says about the hd.09:30
qasimnuxninja, unfortunately i id that too on my previous xubuntu OS but it dint resolve the problem09:30
prihciao09:30
dr_willisClientAlive:  be sure you got restore media made for windows09:30
prih!list09:30
ubottuprih: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».09:30
qasimdid that**09:30
ClientAlivecan I somehow find out the measure of the existing partitions, tell this step in ubu to have me manually partition, then make it start the partitions after that measured distance?09:30
dr_willisprih:  do you list every channel you join? WHy?09:31
ClientAlivedr_willis: this sounds like a painfully long journey I'm in for09:31
ikoniaClientAlive: please try to rephrase your question09:31
nuxninjasee howto install nvidia proprietary drivers on google search or askubuntu.com  ....you will have to install something like nvidia-swat.....check09:31
dr_willisClientAlive:  ;)  and on a new windows laptop - i find their 'make restore disk' apps seem to take 3+ hrs to make a 3 dvd set....09:32
ixio2man I dont get this.. of all the dropdowns the only one that sounds close to an APU is "embedded graphics", the  A8 has a AMD HD 5670.. this does not appear in the sub-menu after choosing embedded09:32
dr_willisClientAlive:  i would see what gparted says about your windows 8 setup.  the LTS version may never get the  updated kernel for full support of new laptops.. they are getting rather complex these days. ;)09:32
ClientAlivedr_willis: After selecting the option that lets me manually partition, I am seeing my existing partitions. I just want to be certain what I'm looking at before I go too far.09:33
qasimnuxninja, no i mean i had successfully installed nvedea graphics card and i changed my graphics settings from xserver to nvedea but it dint resolve the problem09:33
qasiminstalled nvedea graphics card driver*09:33
ixio2perhaps the A8 is not classed as an APU ?09:33
nuxninjaixio2 dekstop graphics-apu-follow ahead ;)09:33
dr_willisClientAlive:  you may want to ask in #windows what the partions are for. MS  and vendors have been dong weird stuff with disk partions in recent years09:33
ClientAlivedr_willis: I see my efi partition and a partition it calls sda1 (which I think is where win 8 is).09:33
ClientAlivedr_willis: good idea09:33
nuxninjadid you install something like swat qasim09:34
dr_willisbetween the special boot partion windows likes now.. and the efi partions.. i barely know what they all do.09:34
qasimim not sure09:34
qasimi dont know  what that is09:34
ixio2thanks nuxninja, depending on what page you access it from APU does or does not appear in the desktop list09:35
ixio2but found it now09:35
nuxninjait installs the proprietary drivers which disables the kernel driver .....then after that you have to install nvidia driver from site.....google search qasim09:35
ixio2:)09:35
ClientAlivedr_willis: I can tell what 3 of the partitions are and it's expected it would be that (looks right). But there is a sda3 where it says "unknown" in the "used" column of the partition editor. 134 mb with no file format listed.09:36
* nuxninja drags ixio2 by the collar and throws him out09:36
qasimnuxninja, if you mean it helps installing the nvidea driver...then i did that i had to uninstall kernal driver i lost my display than i ran nvidea driver commands to install and set ...the driver was working properly09:36
dr_willisClientAlive:  may be a special boot partion. would be my guess09:36
qasimnuxninja, and it did disable the kernal(X server ) driver09:37
Jay2001Hi all09:37
nuxninjaNO qasim no need to install ....there is no uninstall procedure09:37
nuxninjasorry qasim i mean nothing to uninstall09:37
qasimnuxninja, oh okay ..i better google what swat is09:38
codephobicI've got another question as well. I setup some custom keyboard shortcut keys (WinKey+Ctrl + 0-9) and I want to be able to export/import the shortcuts ... where/how do I find them on the system?09:38
Jay2001I has a question. I am having trouble getting Wi-Fi to work on a desktop. I have tried 2 adaptors (one USB, one PCI) with no luck and have upgraded the OS from 11.10 to 12.10 with still no success. Can anyone recomend a good PCI card I can go and buy that will just slot in, be detected and work with minimum (read 'no') effort.09:39
nuxninjanvidia swat....or better 'how to install nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu' --google search qasim09:39
qasimnuxninja, btw i mean i had to terminate the already running process when i said i uninstalled the kernal driver ..sorry09:39
precyFuck you ubuntu09:39
precy:P09:39
qasimnuxninja, olrite thanks let me google it09:39
dr_willisJay2001:  i tend to hit amazon.com and check their user reviews.. i picked up 3 differnt USB wifi dongles that work in ubuntu and linux with no hassles09:39
precyawsome ubuntu09:40
precy:D09:40
ixio2you guys know what the pre-reqs are to install the AMD propiertry driver ?09:41
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xrsi havent been able to get the amd drivers working since 12.1009:42
Jay2001dr_willis: The issue there is that the USB adaptor I tried was listed as working but the manufacturer had changed chipset without changing model number so it no longer worked even though reviews said it did.09:43
nuxninjaixio2 from terminal : sudo  bash <amdccc 13.1...............>.xh09:43
ixio2nuxninja: I did ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run09:44
nuxninjaHallo DrManhattan how's the city doin?? :)09:44
ixio2is this not the right file ?09:44
dr_willisJay2001:  seen that happen in the past with modems also.  of course i picked up 3-4 diffent usb dongles for under  $15 each. ;) one was $5 off amazon. so far they have all been plug and play on ubuntu. and even worked on some of my Linux based media players. an added bonus09:44
nuxninjalike i said above ixio2.....use bash09:44
ixio2I thoguth I was using bash lol09:45
dr_willisixio2:  if the file is not executable you do  'bash foo.run'  perhaps09:45
ixio2ok I did sudo bash ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run with the same result "Onoe or more tools required for instgallation cannot be found on the systme"09:45
dr_willisixio2:  or sh foo.run        or chmod +x foo.run   then ./foo.run09:45
ShapeShifter499Hi09:45
ixio2I already chmod +x the file09:45
nuxninjaqasim are you there  i got site to install http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-driver-31014-on-ubuntu.html09:46
dr_willisNice.. it dosent say wht tools. ;)09:46
keelGAlfa networks are cheap and uses drivers which work OOB iirc09:46
cricidociao a tutti09:46
cricidoragazzi come demone di posta che uso per ubuntu?09:46
nuxninjawhich 32 bit or 64 bit ixio209:46
ShapeShifter499Vmware is looking for the kernel header files and I have then installed its just vmware can't find them, where do the kernel header files get installed to?09:47
ShapeShifter499*them09:47
Ben64Jay2001: www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=5338 or http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=807209:47
cfhowlett!it|cricido,09:47
ubottucricido,: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)09:47
cricidoi msorry09:47
nuxninjaixio2 remove ./09:48
cricidoi have a question zimbra open souce  is free?09:48
nuxninjahi dhruvasagar09:48
ShapeShifter499I have ubuntu 12.10 64 bit installed09:49
nuxninjaShapeShifter499 search for vmware patch for ubuntu for  correct installation09:50
Jay2001Ben64: I'll keep that one in mind, thanks. A little irritating that the use UPS though since I am in the UK and I object to paying $32 to ship $25 in product!09:50
cfhowlettcricido, seems to be free.  check www.zimbra.com09:50
cricidook09:51
cfhowlettcricido, http://zimbraopensource.com/09:51
cricido:)09:51
ixio2nuxninja same result with or without the ./09:53
nuxninjawhat error ixio209:53
minashi. At the top bar of my screen, some small rectangles appear and disappear rapidly: http://i46.tinypic.com/2zokh2g.png  Any idea how this can be fixed?09:54
Ben64Jay2001: oh uk09:54
ixio2nuxninja: its ok linux-headers is a dependency installed that and now its working09:54
nuxninjasee ixio2 its all weeny problems09:55
ixio2theres no readme, no FAQ.. its pretty bad09:55
nuxninjaNvidia is worse ixio209:55
ixio2with nvidia I just had to open the "propietry drivers" dialogue and tell it yeah ok I accept09:56
ixio2and it worked09:56
nuxninjano ixio2 that's for older drivers ....newer ones it hell09:57
ShapeShifter499nuxninja: what does the patch fix?  The issue where vmware can't find the kernel header files?09:57
ixio2oh.. been a while since I used nvidia09:57
nuxninjathen ShapeShifter499 install kernel-headers ....i had problem with workstation 9 and got fixed by vmware-patch09:57
ShapeShifter499I have them installed I just need to point vmware to their location which I don't know09:58
nuxninjaok09:58
ShapeShifter499Goes back to my original question, where are the kernel header files installed to?09:59
ikoniaShapeShifter499: /usr/share normally10:01
smartypants2013hi, can anyone recommend a good tool for monitoring web server bandwidth/traffic10:02
Shine1a10:03
keelGsmartypants2013: I guess you could use something like nagios - or are you after something textbased? In that case Smokeping and iPerf might be what you are looking for10:05
keelGsmartypants2013: however iperf and smokeping are more tools for measuring the network10:05
Shine1hei10:06
cfhowlettShine1, greetings10:07
Shine1cfhowlett hi10:08
ShapeShifter499ikonia: thank you10:10
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ShapeShifter499Found the kernel headers10:10
dogearsHow do I install the Nvidia driver on 12.10?10:12
martin___!nvidia | dogears10:12
ubottudogears: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto10:12
dogearsThanks10:13
savita-bhabhidogears  http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-driver-31014-on-ubuntu.html10:13
HyperiantMy power button does nothing when pressed, but powers down when I hold it; it seems that the system isn't receiving input from it10:13
HyperiantRather, that Ubuntu isn't reading my presses10:14
fdfHi, there is any boot cd will auto increase  / ext4 none lvm  partition like Gparted just without user interference? (for vmware disk resize) thanks10:14
ClientAliveSo if I do a windows / ubuntu dial boot, what are some options for formatting storage partition?10:15
ClientAliventfs sucks and windows won't read ext10:16
ClientAlivewhat are my options?10:16
koegsexFat or FAT3210:16
ClientAlivekoegs: never heard of exFat. is that something new? Some kinda lingo?10:17
savita-bhabhiFAT32 works well10:17
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koegsFAT32 is limited to <4GB Files10:18
ClientAlivecan I use a samba share with ext filsystem and just connect the share in windblows10:18
ClientAlive?10:18
ClientAlivelinux matters, windoze is forced on my by my school10:19
HyperiantClientAlive: Why don't you just partition part of the drive NTFS and the other ext?10:19
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nuxninjaClientAlive lucky me no school10:20
ClientAliveHyperiant: wasted space10:20
ClientAlivenuxninja: ha ha10:20
nuxninjatry samba-swat10:20
ClientAlivemaybe I shoud be running windows in a vm (like someone else strongly suggested)10:21
ClientAliveidk10:21
ClientAlivethen you have performance issue10:21
HyperiantClientAlive: What is it that you want to accomplish?10:21
Guido1Hello, i would like to ad a plugin to rhythembox, but i don't know how10:21
ClientAlivewell dual boot win 8/ ubuntu 12.04 and all storage space ext4 would be nice10:22
cfhowlettGuido1, see #rhythmbox or projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/10:22
ClientAlivebut stupid windows will have to have some kind of storage eventually (probably sooner than later)10:22
HyperiantClientAlive: Then it's not wasted space to partition the drive10:22
Guido1cfhowlett: there seams no one to be online :-(10:23
makarahi. I set some jobs to run later when CPU load was down. Now I just want them to run no matter what. What command?10:23
ClientAliveI know, all my options suck10:23
ClientAliveI have to think about this10:23
cfhowlett!cron|makara,10:23
ubottumakara,: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto10:23
Guido1ubottu: perhaps crone could help me too10:24
ubottuGuido1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:24
nuxninjaGuido1 i dont use Rythmbox :P soree10:24
Guido1ubottu: can i start a playlist with it a a specific time?10:24
ubottuGuido1: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:24
HyperiantHow do you fix a power button not doing anything when pressed in 12.10?10:25
cfhowlettGuido1, pretty sure there must be a way feed a playlist to rhythmbox via terminal.  Find that and configure cron accordingly10:25
makaraHyperiant: sounds like a joke :)10:25
nuxninjaROFLMFAO10:26
Hyperiantmakara: Holding the power button turns off the computer.  Pressing it is supposed to bring up a prompt.  It doesn't.10:26
ClientAlivewhat is vnc like - performance wise?  (I could run a windows vm on my desktop, which has a lot more resources, and vnce into it - maybe)10:26
ClientAlive*vnc*10:26
cfhowlettClientAlive, if you only need occasional windows, consider installing a virtualbox10:27
Guido1nuxninja: perhaps you can help me anyway as i have to untar the plugin and to put it into a special folder - gnome2/rhythembox/plugins but i don't know where to find it and how to untar it at the place. i found one place and there untar doesent work10:27
nuxninja!ubotto  | vnc10:27
cfhowlett!vnc10:27
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX10:27
Hyperiantmakara: More accurately, I can turn off the laptop using the power button, but only because holding it down actually cuts power to the computer.  Ubuntu doesn't react at all when I press it.10:27
nuxninjause nautilus Guido110:27
nuxninjanautilus10:28
ClientAlivecfhowlett: This is the sutuation (occasional as you say). I would prefer not to run a vm on the lappy as it's resources are, well, not limited but 'more limited'10:28
ClientAliveso I wonder what vnc is like since I've never used it. Does it lag?10:28
HyperiantClientAlive: Again, what is it you're trying to accomplish?10:28
HyperiantClientAlive: In terms of usability10:29
ClientAliveI'm trying to determine the truly best option for my needs10:29
nuxninjaits lhi sooraj10:29
HyperiantClientAlive: And what are your needs?10:29
nuxninjahi sooraj10:29
ClientAliveHyperiant: yeah, Is it like native performance?10:29
cfhowlettClientAlive, tunneling into another machine is always slower than running from that machine natively ...10:29
ClientAliveI use linux (Ubuntu, specifically). My uni requires us to do some projects in a windows environment.10:30
Guido1nuxninja: do you have any idea where the folder is located? (gnome2/rhythembox/plugins)10:30
HyperiantIt would be slower than running it from a live CD and using persistence on a flash drive10:30
ClientAlivecfhowlett: I see. Like nocieable? Like mouse pointers freezing and shit?10:30
prihirc://irc.uragano.org/SunShiNe10:30
ClientAliveI see10:30
nuxninjano idea Guido1 .....10:30
cfhowlettClientAlive, haven't used it enough to be able to say...10:31
smartypants2013thanks keelG10:31
makaraHyperiant, http://askubuntu.com/questions/66723/how-do-i-modify-the-power-options10:31
nuxninjabut Guido1 type in terminal: whereis rythmbox10:31
ClientAlivealrighty then. I'll have to chew on this for a while10:31
ClientAlivethx fellas10:31
Hyperiantmakara: I don't want an immediate shutdown from a button press, I want a prompt; it's the opposite problem that this guy is having10:32
Hyperiantmakara: Except in my case, Ubuntu isn't reading my power button presses at all10:32
pranavhow to prevent ubuntu from loading CD-Drivers ?10:33
nuxninjapranav ??10:33
pranavnuxninja: ok, how to disable cd rom in ubuntu ?10:34
nuxninjaunmount it10:34
nuxninjaumount /media/cdrom etc etc10:35
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pranavnuxninja: i've no cd-rom inserted10:35
nuxninjaso what reason for disabling cdrom ?? serves no purpose if no is present10:35
Nodgicis there a way to access my Ubuntu partition from Windows?10:36
nuxninjano cd is present10:36
KayAteChefNodgic: ext3 driver10:36
KayAteCheffor windows10:36
KayAteChefgoogleetc10:36
Nodgicaha10:36
Nodgicthanks10:36
KayAteChefprobably better off usign a virtual machine and samba10:37
nuxninjapranav if there is no cd then the drive is just in zombie state or even dead ....it wont conflict with anything10:38
marttimorning'10:38
pranavnuxninja: mv  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cdrom/cdrom.ko /root10:38
pranavis it a decent solution ?10:38
nuxninjawhy!!10:38
nuxninjaNO ways!!???10:39
nuxninjacdrom driver never conflicts with anything unless you have 2 drives10:40
KayAteChefwhy are you even trying to nuke your cdrom drivers?10:41
pranavwhenever i wake my ubuntu from sleep state. it shakes the whole laptop with a 'glich' sound10:42
ClientAliveI've made my decision. How big should an efi partition be for an ubuntu only system?10:42
HyperiantMeh, not much in the way of help :<10:42
nuxninja....?? hmmm10:42
hillaryi have a problem when i run 'sudo apt-get upgrade"10:43
iceroot!details | hillary10:43
ubottuhillary: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:43
dogearsCan I delete the main user and then recreate a new admin user with the original name?10:43
nuxninjathen pranav can you remove the bay...it must be hot pluggable wit 2 screws10:43
hillarythe problem is "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"10:43
icerootdogears: why you want that?10:43
hillaryubuntu 12.0410:43
iceroothillary: please paste the full output10:44
iceroot!paste | hillary10:44
ubottuhillary: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:44
bonohillary: try "sudo apt-get update" first10:44
dogearsiceroot: Because i have problems with the home directory and a clean install hasnt fixed it.10:44
HyperiantLubuntu channel is utterly and completely unresponsive but I still need help.  Anybody familiar with the distro?10:44
pranavnuxninja: what ? u mean the hardware. no man i need an easy fix. something, that i could enable easily10:45
mac_12hi to everyone10:45
icerootdogears: what kind of problem?10:45
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makaraHyperiant: install gconf-tools and run gconf-editor10:46
dogearsThere are problems with missing icons and bad logins etc. Something bad is wrong for the past week and I have tried to rebuild with the original home dir. but the problem still is there10:46
makaraHyperiant: you didn't look through the thread10:46
nuxninjayes pranav i mean hardware.....then keep bay empty with no cd....problem solved .....the clicking sound is maybe from hdd or cd drive head moving10:46
hillarySetting up install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu2) ...10:47
hillary/etc/environment: line 2: :/opt/mono-2.11/bin: No such file or directory10:47
hillarydpkg: error processing install-info (--configure):10:47
hillary subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 110:47
hillaryNo apport report written because MaxReports is reached already10:47
hillary                                                              Errors were encountered while processing:10:47
FloodBot1hillary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:47
hillary install-info10:47
icerootdogears: when you create a new user its working?10:47
makarain gconf-editor navigate to org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power and set your default button-power action to interactive10:47
nuxninjahi megha10:47
dogearsiceroot: Yes the new user I created was a standard user and all is working.10:47
trap24nuxninja: yes its empty. i know that is the head just waking up to move or sth. but what can i do to fix it. it shakes. i need a smooth system :P10:48
zvacethillary: sudo dpkg --configure -a10:48
trap24never seen so in windows10:48
nuxninjasorry no easy fix trap2410:48
iceroothillary: you are installing packages from the repo? because /opt/mono does not sound like something from the repos10:48
Hyperiantmakara: I'm running Lubuntu, though; will that still work in LXDE?10:48
nuxninjaremove bay only option trap2410:48
trap24nuxninja: are you joking ?10:48
makaraHyperiant: no harm in trying10:49
marttiw00t 3.8.0 ... I'm not used to have so recent stuff on this distro10:49
nuxninjano trap24 if it is under warranty cant help you but no warranty its unmountable10:49
dogearsiceroot: The original admin user has the problems and I cant find the problems so I figure a clean user with the same name.10:49
icerootdogears: more important would be the same uid10:50
trap24do we not have choice to load the drivers, i know cdrom is a very basic driver and loads using bios. but then again, we might have some ways to disable it for ubuntu session :D10:50
icerootdogears: unix systems are only working with UIDs, the username itself is not important10:50
nuxninjatrap24 from bios yes try there!!10:50
CoffeecocoI have a question in relation to ulimit -n10:50
* washuu_de is away: Away10:51
martti!ask10:51
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:51
jrib!away > washuu_de10:51
ubottuwashuu_de, please see my private message10:51
Coffeecocoi guess i was preparing you all :P10:51
Coffeecocobrace your self!10:51
dogearsiceroot: Does the user ID refer to the original admin user?10:51
trap24nuxninja: i think i told you that. so, next time what would you do to disable a webcam or sth like that. usb or a hardware. you would unpin them ??10:51
marttiCoffeecoco: great. now I get bored.10:51
trap24i don't want to move the driver file either10:52
nuxninjatrap24 your problem is of physical noise webcam has no RELATION whatsoever..10:52
CoffeecocoI am aware of how a server / service is effected by ulimit -n and resources, I wish to know when you enable routing/forwarding, does the act of routing/forwarding have any effect with ulimit -n resources?10:52
marttiCoffeecoco: hmm, those stacks aren't associated with a user or process, so, no10:53
zykes- /j amobil10:53
icerootdogears: you can for example move the .dirs to another place and relogin with your admin-user10:53
Coffeecocomartti thanks i assume so much thank you for clearing that10:54
mac_12does anyone have idea if "1265 hard disk sectors damaged" have effects on the speed of my UBUNTU 12.0410:54
mac_12now it appears very slow10:54
CoffeecocoI datre say that "NAT" would take up resources though10:54
Coffeecocodare*10:54
dogearsiceroot: All the hidden directories?10:54
hillaryi have pasted the output of sudo apt-get upgrade10:54
marttiCoffeecoco: network load balancing can be done, but just in other ways than with ulimit.10:55
icerootdogears: thats what i would do to see what the problem is and if it will fix the issue10:55
icerootdogears: then i would restore the important ones (mozilla, wine and so on)10:55
trap24nuxninja: so, do you know hard fix ? (u said no easy fix except unpinning the drive from board )10:55
Coffeecocomartti i guess i wasnt going too deep into load balancing, just basic network address translation, i have a feeling that NAT would take up resources, is that a bit more clear?10:56
dogearsiceroot: I will give it a go Thanks10:56
nuxninjasorry cant help trap24.10:56
trap24nuxninja: ok10:56
samir06salut10:56
marttiCoffeecoco: depending on the traffic, you'd see a few % of kernel load... I don't think it'll matter, unless you're really in between the lines10:57
zvacethillary: where it is?10:58
Coffeecocofair call,10:58
donnieHello. I need a slight bit of assistance. I'm on Xubuntu. and when I type in sudo gedit nothing comes up. What can I replace gedit with?10:58
zvacethillary: your pastebin10:58
zvacetdonnie: leafpad10:58
samir06Hello. I need a slight bit of assistance. I'm on Xubuntu. and when I type in sudo gedit nothing comes up. What can I replace gedit with?10:58
donniezvacet so it would be sudo leafpad then the command?10:59
dr_willisdonnie:  use gksudo for gui apps.. and see if gedit is installed. or install any of a dozen other text editors.. I perfer geany. ;)10:59
zvacetdonnie: yes,because leafpad is text editor in xfce10:59
marttisamir06: what about your question. are you the same guy as donnie10:59
dr_willissamir06:  sudo apt-get install gedit    or i think xubuntu uses leafpad? im not sure10:59
dr_willis!info leafpad11:00
ubottuleafpad (source: leafpad): GTK+ based simple text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.18.1-3 (quantal), package size 106 kB, installed size 709 kB11:00
dr_willisHmm. leafpad is tiny11:00
martti!xauthority11:00
martti!xauth11:00
marttithe bot is not helpful.11:00
dr_willisif you learn the factoids....11:00
dr_willis!fish11:00
marttihow to retreive an url w/information about xauthority through the bot?11:01
donnieThank you. I'm doing a replacement in a file to make chrome faster :D11:02
donnieand it worked11:02
dr_willisthere may not be any martti11:02
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dr_willis!bot11:02
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots11:02
dogearsiceroot: Solved the problem. Thanks for your help.11:02
mac_12\quit11:05
mac_12\exit11:05
dr_willistry a /11:06
marttiirc likes slashes...11:06
Noctiferhi mh since my upgrade to 12.10 nautilus can't copy files to certain usb drives (permissions are granted) even if copying using the console works without problems11:06
Noctiferam i missing some kind of package?11:06
jribNoctifer: have you restarted nautilus?11:07
dr_willisso you can as a user  'cp filename /media/username/theflashdrive'  but  you cant just drag/drop a file into /media/username/theflashdrive ?11:07
marttithat usually depends on the mounting method, unless you're blindly trusting some kind of *kit. I don't know about that, never really used it.11:07
hillaryhillary@hillary-ESPRIMO-Mobile:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade11:07
hillary[sudo] password for hillary:11:07
hillaryReading package lists... Done11:07
hillaryBuilding dependency tree11:07
hillaryReading state information... Done11:07
FloodBot1hillary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:07
hillaryThe following packages have been kept back:11:07
Noctiferfor instance mkdir works without problems from console, creating folder using nautilus fails saying the device is write protected11:07
Noctiferdr_willis: exactly11:07
dr_willishillary:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:07
dr_willisNoctifer:  that is unusual. as a test. see if the guest account. or a newly made user has the same issue11:08
dr_willisNoctifer:  these are vfat/ntfs filesystems on the flash drive correct?11:08
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Noctiferdr_willis: happens both with ext3 formatted and vendor formatted ones11:09
Noctiferdr_willis: both worked just right before the upgrade11:09
dr_willisNoctifer:  for ext3 you Must set the proper ownership.. but you  allready knowthat. :) since it worked befor...11:09
jribNoctifer: restart nautilus and see if the issue persists11:10
Noctifermh11:10
Noctiferk11:10
Noctiferreboot11:10
jribNoctifer: no.11:10
jrib...11:10
dr_willisYea. and if it does have issues.. test with other users.11:10
Noctiferwhat "no" :D11:10
Noctiferwhat "no" :D11:10
Noctifershould i  reboot now or not?11:10
blkrdoubuntu wont shutdown what is happening ?11:10
dr_willisno need to reboot.11:11
jribNoctifer: I mean don't reboot.  Just restart nautilus11:11
dr_willisjust log out/back in11:11
jribNoctifer: try this first: pkill -HUP nautilus11:11
dr_willisi wonder if it could be mounted twice... with differnt permissions.11:11
jribthere must be some bug in nautilus.  Someone had the same issue a while ago.  We debugged so much about permissions and mount options and it turned out nautilus just wasn't picking up the permissions until it was restarted for some reason.  Even hitting "reload" in nautilus wouldn't work11:12
blkrdoubuntu 11.10 wont shutdown from unity gui after upgrde...11:12
dr_willisblkrdo:  if you logout to the login screen.. and shutdown from there. does it work?11:13
hillaryi have pasted the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:13
hillary"11:13
blkrdono..11:13
dr_willis!pastebin | hillary11:13
ubottuhillary: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:13
jribhillary: did you pastebin the output like ubottu said to?11:13
blkrdodr_willis: no11:13
dr_willis!11.1011:13
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/111011:14
hillaryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/158053311:14
Noctiferwell works ....11:14
NoctiferCRAP AND I FORMATTED THE STICK FOR NOTHING11:14
jribhillary: /etc/environment: line 2: :/opt/mono-2.11/bin: No such file or directory11:14
hillaryyes11:14
hillarywhat do i do?11:15
Noctiferwell ... thanks ><11:15
jribNoctifer: there's some sort of weird bug in nautilus where it won't detect changes in permissions even when you press reload (you should try pressing reload in nautilus and verifying it isn't enough).  Probably a good idea to check for a bug in bugs.ubuntu.com and either watch it or create one if it doesn't exist11:15
jribgah11:15
dr_willis!info install-info11:16
ubottuinstall-info (source: texinfo): Manage installed documentation in info format. In component main, is standard. Version 4.13a.dfsg.1-10ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 50 kB, installed size 217 kB11:16
jribhillary: probably a good idea to take care of "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" too.11:16
jribhillary: what is your second line in /etc/environment?11:16
admin0hi .. in ubuntu, where is the default iptables rules saved ? in which file ?11:17
albertociao11:18
jribadmin0: there are no default iptables rules afaik11:18
dr_willisif you say !list im going to send you torrent files... ;)11:18
jribadmin0: what do you want to accomplish?11:18
admin0hmm... please ignore my question :)11:18
Ben64dr_willis: you made him sad11:18
dr_willisBen64:  that was... amuseing..11:19
jribhe didn't want dr_willis torrents11:19
dr_willisand here i was looking for somthing from legaltorrents.org ;)11:19
hillaryi seem not to be getting it correct. how do i check the line11:19
Ben64just send 12.04 torrent11:19
jribhillary: head /etc/environment11:19
admin0apparently i mistook the iptables rules from one application and thought it was the default .11:19
dr_willisBen64:  nah.. a 6.06  torrent would be funnier11:20
Ben64i've never understood the "ciao, !list" stuff11:20
TomyLaptopit's a warez thing11:21
TomyLaptopsupposedly11:21
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Ben64No, I get !list. I was on irc 15 years ago too :)  I just don't get why Italy hasn't gotten the memo11:22
rax-If I create a template from a VM with SSH key pair set up, when I launch the new VM from the template, will I be able to connect using the public key from the template vm?11:23
hillaryam defeated11:23
rax-i.e. - create key pair, give a server the public key and verify it connects as expected. Create new VM from the machine that houses the private key and connect from the server containing the public key from the VM used for the template?11:25
rax-I could just try it but I'm just hoping for a quick answer11:25
dr_willisBen64:  aparently they cant handle torrents..11:26
dr_willishillary:  a simple command like 'head /etc/enviroment' and looking at line 2 has you defeated?11:26
hillaryhead: cannot open `/etc/enviroment' for reading: No such file or directory11:27
cfhowlettBen64, no warty warthog torrent available?11:27
hbwoahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OMG OMG11:27
hba chat for UBUNTU11:27
hbwoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh11:28
hbLOOK AT THIS11:28
cfhowletthb, stop11:28
FloodBot1hb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:28
hbwoah!!!!!!!!!!11:28
dr_willishb:  what?  and now everyone has you on ignore11:28
Ben64that was short lived11:28
hbhey11:29
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dr_willisHello11:30
dr_willisbe right back11:32
Coffeecocoguys i have a little guide in front of me11:35
Coffeecocoand there suggesting ubuntu 11.0411:35
Coffeecocothink he means 12.4 ?11:35
cfhowlettCoffeecoco, old guide ?11:35
Coffeecocoerr 12.0411:35
cfhowlettCoffeecoco, 12.04 is latest Long Term Support version ...11:35
Coffeecococfhowlett its one of them ones that " suppoted working tested on "11:35
Coffeecocomy question is11:36
Coffeecoco11.04 is not valid11:36
pat__Is there still a "One Fell Swoop" command for installing a lamp server? ^lamp-server or something like that.11:36
Coffeecocoor exist ??11:36
Ben64!lamp | pat__11:36
ubottupat__: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.11:36
ThinkT510Coffeecoco: 11.04 is no longer supported11:36
Coffeecococan anyone confirm there was a realease of ubuntu that is 11.04 ?11:36
Coffeecoco^ that is my question11:36
ThinkT510Coffeecoco: yes, there was, it is no longer supported11:37
Coffeecocoty11:37
Coffeecocoi dont care if its supported11:37
pat__Coffeecoco, wasn't that natty?11:37
ThinkT510!11.04 | Coffeecoco11:37
ubottuCoffeecoco: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on October 28, 2012. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.11:37
Coffeecocodont give a hoot11:37
zoozhi people11:37
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zoozhow do I disable a service to start on boot?11:39
pat__Ben64, Found one of them -- installing taskel then running it lets you do it quickly.  There was another though that I remember...11:39
pat__zooz, what service?11:39
zoozpat__, any, let's say a service called "foobar"11:39
MonkeyDustzooz  is this useful http://upstart.ubuntu.com/11:40
dr_willisthat upstart cookbook doc site is worth reading.. ;)11:40
pat__zooz, what they said.  I waslooking for a GUI but I'm not familiar enough yet with unity.11:42
jribzooz: depends on whether the service's init script is an upstart script (resides in /etc/init) or is still an old-style sys-v init script (resides in /etc/init.d)11:42
dr_willisive seen no gui upstart manager tools11:42
dogearsI cant shutdown my 12.10 computer?11:42
dr_willisdogears:  a rather common apci/powersaveing/bios/kernel quirk/bug sadly.11:43
MonkeyDustdogears  what happens when you try and did it work before?11:43
dogearsWhat has changed from 12.0411:43
dr_willisa new kernel for one thing dogears11:43
zoozno, not GUI, I am talking about the server edition and let's say my service is an upstart service11:43
dr_williszooz:  and you want to do what exactly with it11:44
dogearsMonkeydust: it was perfect till I just did the last upgrade11:44
zoozdr_willis, I want my 'foobar' service not to start on boot11:44
dr_williszooz:  upstart cookbook mentions 3 differnt ways to disable it...11:44
MonkeyDustdogears  plenty reviews, here's one http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/ubuntu-12-10-review-linux-users-biggest-ever-super-test11:44
dr_williszooz:  easiest.. rename the foobar.conf to be foobar.dontrun in /etc/init/11:44
dogearsdr_willis: The latest was just installed11:45
Guido1hello, is there a alarmcloc out there which can play a playlist or a rhythmbox plugin for that?11:45
jribzooz: using manual overrides as described in the cookbook is better imo since it still allows you to use upstart to manage the service later (like if you want to start it manually after boot)11:46
zoozright, I see, I thought there was a command or something (ubuntu seems so immature when coming from real distributions like fedora or centos)11:47
zoozyet I am amazed how many people use it11:47
MonkeyDustzooz  please don't start11:47
zoozI will not11:47
dr_williszooz:  wait till everyone changes to that systemd stuff... you will get totally stupified then11:47
zoozdr_willis, I love systemd, been using it for some time now11:48
dr_willisamazing thing about upstart.. its been in use for several realeases now.. and not a lot of people have even noticed the switch from sysv.11:48
dr_willisbut i imagine its days are numbered.11:48
zoozdr_willis, is ubuntu going to switch to systemd?11:48
dr_williszooz:  the rumor mill says yes.. eventually..11:49
daze:/11:49
zoozah, great11:49
dazewhy is systemd good?11:49
dr_willisdont hold your breath for it to be soon.11:49
zoozsure11:49
dr_willis the init system is an amazingly complex topic daze  once you start getting into it.. upstart fixs some of the problems.. systemd fixs a lot of them also.. in a radically differnt way. ;)11:49
dr_willisI barely understood half the reasons or issues with   init systems till i started reading up on the rather dry topic. ;)11:50
dazeyeah, I read somewhere that systemd is a betrayal of unix principles and such11:50
Noriandir hi. i'm having problems accessing my apache server through my external IP. I have it working for some time now and had no problems until today... =/11:50
zoozdr_willis, could you answer another question for me please? I don't get the point of being interrupted when installing packages, for instance installing mysql prompts me to enter root password and such11:50
hillaryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1580753/11:51
dr_williszooz:  never really worried about it. ;)  package managament - another very complex topic. :)11:51
ThinkT510zooz: using the package management should always prompt for your users password11:51
zoozThinkT510, I am not talking about sudo password11:51
MonkeyDustthat's called 'security'11:51
kiwi65745I think what zooz means is the mysql password11:52
dr_willisI thought all those questions got asked at the end of the package session,  where their c pkg config scripts were getting ran11:52
dr_willisso its  a post-install question actually11:52
zoozright dr_willis11:52
kiwi65745even i've faced this issue. It asks for the password during the installation of any software using apt-get11:52
dr_williscomplex packages may need input.. thats just life.11:52
dr_willisor else ya got to go back then redo that command to configure them afterwards.. (i forget the command)11:53
zoozI have been using RPM-based packages for years and have never been prompted or interrupted during any package install11:53
dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  (ugh!) ;)11:53
zoozI think there is a way to turn this off11:53
zoozwhich is great11:53
dr_willisso how do you set the myswl password then.11:53
kiwi65745dr_willis why does mysql need authentication everytime i want to install ANOTHER software?11:54
dr_willismysql asks for the mysql Root users password on install i recall11:54
dogearsdr_willis: Do we wait for the fix? This was rebooting following the latest upgrade.11:54
kiwi65745yes, and then it asks you to authenticate the same everytime you install something else. I've faced this on debian as well.11:54
lydadr_willis: debconf-set-selections is what you want to look at.11:55
lydadebconf-set-selections << EOF11:55
lydamysql-server-5.1 mysql-server/root_password password $MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD11:55
lydamysql-server-5.1 mysql-server/root_password_again password $MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD11:55
lydaEOF11:55
dr_willisI dont really do mysql :) so  i doubt if i have it installed on any of my systems11:55
dogearsdr_willis: This was the latest upgrade.11:55
ClientAliveearlier today someone gage me an aptitude command to install packages from a file. I lost it. Does anyone know what that is again?11:56
lydaif you'd like to see what selections your packages currently use, debconf-get-selections11:56
dr_willisdogears:  and the next kernel update might fix it.. check the bug reports perhaps.11:56
ClientAlive*gave*11:56
dr_willis!clone > ClientAlive11:56
ubottuClientAlive, please see my private message11:56
dr_willisbe carefull with aptitude. ;)11:56
dr_willistheres other ways to install from a file list also.11:56
ClientAlivedr_willis: that's it. thx11:57
MonkeyDustClientAlive  here's how I do it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1580797/11:58
Noriandircan anyone help me with my problem said above?11:59
ubuntuck sdsgdg11:59
MonkeyDustNoriandir  it's easier if you simply repeated the question, in one line11:59
Noriandirhere it is: i'm having problems accessing my apache server through my external IP. I have it working for some time now and had no problems until today... =/12:00
MonkeyDustNoriandir  ubuntu server? if yes: they have their own channel   #ubuntu-server12:01
damian_^hi, i installed plasma active via software center but im only getting the kde plasma desktop, not the tablet version. what package do i need (maybe a dummy package) or do i need to add a ppa or something?12:01
ClientAlivedr_willis: uhh. bash is telling me aptitude command not found. I looked and looked again and it is spelled right and in the correct case12:01
Noriandirnow i've realised that my ssh access is having problems too. so its accessing the external ip and not the apache server only12:01
NoriandirMonkeyDust, no, its not ubuntu server12:01
dr_willisClientAlive:  apti<tab>  perhaps.12:01
dr_willisClientAlive:  i never use the command these days12:01
arcskywhere do i find correct  source to my apt/source.list ?  squeeze/sid12:02
ClientAliveI see12:02
dr_willisClientAlive:  you did install aptitude?12:02
icerootarcsky: #debian12:02
dr_willisarcsky:  ubuntu dosent use squeeze/sid12:02
ClientAlivedr_willis: shows me a list of possiblities. aptitude is not in the list12:03
ClientAliveam I missing some things?12:03
icerootClientAlive: dpkg -l aptitude12:03
dr_willisClientAlive:  you did install aptitude?.... its NOT installed by default...12:03
arcskydr_willis: how can i see what i run ?12:03
icerootClientAlive: what is the output12:03
icerootarcsky: cat /etc/issue12:03
dr_willis!version | arcsky12:03
ubottuarcsky: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »12:03
ClientAliveI didn't know I had to12:03
arcskydr_willis: Ubuntu 10.10 maverick12:04
ClientAliveman this thing is fast as hell!12:04
dr_willisarcsky:  may be time to upgrade12:04
dr_willis!10.1012:04
ubottuUbuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.12:04
MonkeyDustarcsky  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:05
arcskydo i must reboot after upgrade?12:05
damian_^hi, i installed plasma active via software center but im only getting the kde plasma desktop, not the tablet version. what package do i need (maybe a dummy package) or do i need to add a ppa or something?12:05
dr_willisa release upgrade-- will wnt a reboot yes12:05
mvki would like to change a launcher icon, (a program im running, and pinned to the unity launcher)12:05
icerootClientAlive: you could also use "for a in $(< filename); do apt-get install "&a"; done12:05
MonkeyDustarcsky  a fresh innstall is fastest, easiest and cleanest12:05
dr_willisarcsky:  for that old a install.. a clean nstall may be a better idea12:05
mvkwhere do i start, i googled my *** off, i cant find it!12:05
arcskyits a server with good uptime12:06
arcskydont want to reboot :p12:06
icerootarcsky: a server?12:06
arcskyyes12:06
arcskylab server12:06
dr_willismvk:  take an existing  .desktop file and copy it.. and change it12:06
dr_willismvk:  ie: copy gedit.desktop and  edit it how you want12:06
icerootarcsky: a server running 10.10 which is EOL and does not get a reboot to install the newest kernel-fixes and so on?12:06
icerootarcsky: i hope its not a public server12:07
captinemvk have u tried "main menu".  not it seems to allow you to select an icon12:07
arcskyircnode0: public yes12:07
icerootarcsky: ......12:07
ClientAliveiceroot: wow, I wish I understood bash script that well  :)12:07
icerootarcsky: please dont do something like that, its full of security issues12:07
arcskyiceroot: ok can i do apt-get distupgrade ?12:08
icerootarcsky: please dont host public servers if you dont know what you are doing12:08
icerootarcsky: dist-upgrade is not installing a newer ubuntu version12:08
iceroot!eol | arcsky12:08
ubottuarcsky: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades12:08
icerootarcsky: last link12:08
MonkeyDustarcsky  upgrading from 10.10 would take forever, clean install is faster12:09
icerootMonkeyDust: its not faster12:09
mvkcapri, where can i find main menu?12:09
mvkdr_willis, in what directory would that be?12:10
dr_willisafter my last upgrade from a .4 to a .10 took 5 hrs... i found clean installs faster. ;)12:10
icerootMonkeyDust: you have to backup, you have to see what packages are not anymore in 12.04, you have to reconfigure things (which is done by postinsts in the upgrade process) and so on12:10
dr_willismvk:  learn to use the 'locate' command12:10
ftruzziHi, I want to install ubuntu, but for some reason BIOS is not booting from CD-ROM or USB, so I will make SYSLINUX to boot to the ubuntu ISO in my Download folder, there is any command to append to the boot process so that the ISO is copyed completely to RAM?12:10
dr_willismvk:  locate  filename12:11
icerootarcsky: but please do some reading about ubuntu or ask a unix-admin but please dont host public servers and say "i dont want to destroy my uptime with a reboot for security fixes"12:11
MonkeyDustarcsky  upgrade or fresh install, a lot of work to be done12:11
icerootarcsky: that is the reason for open-spamrelays, warez-ftp server and so on12:11
arcskyhehe of course its not hacked12:13
dr_willisyea.. sure its not..12:13
arcskybut will do a fresh install12:14
icerootarcsky: and you are sure because?12:14
icerootarcsky: i bet your system has this "debian ssl bug" and you did not create new ssl-certs12:15
icerootimo 10.10 was still affected by this bug12:15
ftruzziHi, I want to install ubuntu, but for some reason BIOS is not booting from CD-ROM or USB, so I will make SYSLINUX to boot to the ubuntu ISO in my Download folder, there is any command to append to the boot process so that the ISO is copyed completely to RAM?12:16
ClientAliveI think I need to make sure I have the repos installed that are on that other machine. What's that file location and the command to install a repo on the other machine?12:16
hillaryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1580931/12:16
qasimhi... does anyone nuxninja?... he was here like 4 or 5 hours ago....12:17
Ben64qasim: Jan 28 2013 03:45:23 *nuxninja (~corenot@27.4.112.94) has left #ubuntu ("Ex-Chat")12:19
qasimBen64,  thx for informing... i just wanted to let him know the link that he gave worked..... i dont login here often but its a sort of obligation on me to tell the outcome...12:21
ThinkT510!yay | qasim12:21
ubottuqasim: Glad you made it! :-)12:21
Ben64qasim: well thats not really the best way to install nvidia12:21
Ben64but if it worked it worked12:21
qasimBen64,  i dont know but my boats are floating :P so yay12:22
Ben64it might break during an upgrade12:22
qasimactually i dint istall nvidea from there :P12:23
Ben64you said you did12:23
qasimi just installed xorg edgers :P12:23
ClientAliveisn't there some file that shows what repositories are installed?12:23
qasimBen64, i said the link that he gave me worked12:23
Ben64qasim: the link said to download and run a file12:24
Ben64the file gets nvidia drivers from the website and runs it that way12:24
Ben64ClientAlive: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*12:24
qasimafter adding the ppa i just updated it...it installed updates of 100 mbs and now its working12:24
Ben64you didn't do the other steps?12:24
qasimnopes12:25
ClientAliveBen64: yup. thx12:25
Ben64qasim: and you're definitely using nvidia driver?12:25
qasimno i think im still using xorg12:25
qasimlet me confirm12:25
ThinkT510qasim: beware of upgrading that system in the future, ppas are notorious for package breakages12:25
Ben64yeah not sure why someone would recommend that method12:26
Ben64the normal ubuntu repository has nvidia 310 driver12:26
qasimThinkT510, thx for the heads up...i would keep in mind12:26
hillaryhow do i locate " 1 not fully installed or remove" package in ubuntu 12.0412:26
qasimBen64,  actually i had installed the nvidea normal way but it dint work12:27
ThinkT510hillary: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade?12:27
qasimBen64,  how to check if its x server or nvidea running currently on  my OS?12:28
Ben64qasim: what is the output of "sudo lshw -c video | grep -i driver"12:28
qasimlet me check Ben6412:29
ThinkT510qasim: if you have a gui then X server is running, nvidia is just the graphics driver12:29
qasimokay12:29
ThinkT510qasim: if you want to see what is in use lsmod will show you the kernel modules loaded12:30
qasimBen64,  configuration: driver=nouveau latency=012:30
Ben64then you're not using nvidia12:31
ThinkT510qasim: then you are using the open source nouveau driver12:31
qasimkool12:31
Ben64you don't want to use nvidia?12:31
qasimThinkT510 and Ben64  i was right i dint install the nvidea actually;p12:31
ThinkT510qasim: why did you install the edgers ppa then?12:31
qasimnah Ben64  not at all12:31
Ben64then why did you ask about it ...12:32
qasimits beeeeeeeeeen so very hard for me to resolve this effing blu ray problem12:32
qasimlolll12:32
ThinkT510qasim: what does bluray have to do with xorg?12:33
lapdisWhat is the easiest way to make a process keep running when I log out of the system?12:33
Ben64lapdis: screen12:33
qasimThinkT510,  i was unable to play blue ray format videos properly12:33
hillarysudo apt-get update is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581052/"12:33
qasimnux asked me to install nvidea12:33
qasimand he gave me the link12:34
qasimfrom there i just installed xorg edgers12:34
qasimand updated the system12:34
ThinkT510qasim: and you are not running nvidia, you are running nouveau, so why are you using xorg-edgers if you don't plan on using nvidia?12:34
qasimThinkT510, i know i wont be making any sense but snce im using this linux..wonders happen12:35
qasimlol12:35
ThinkT510qasim: what was wrong with the previous xorg so that you needed xorg-edgers?12:35
hillarysudo apt-get update is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581052/"12:36
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qasimvideos were choppy12:36
qasimand the frames were broken12:36
EaglemanHow can i find out my WAN ip address from the terminal?12:36
qasimThinkT510,  but now all sort of videos  are working properly12:36
ThinkT510qasim: ok12:37
Ben64Eagleman: you could query a server and have it report back to you12:37
ThinkT510Eagleman: iwconfig12:37
qasimim sorry i dont understand technical jargons much ThinkT510 .....but my issue is resolved12:37
hillaryfor upgrade is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581080/12:37
qasimThinkT510, i am just here to tell the outcome maybe it would help you experts to help others12:38
dnjksandhi12:38
MonkeyDusthillary  and the outcome of sudo apt-get update ?12:38
keelG Eagleman: try this wget http://checkip.dyndns.org/ -q -O - |grep -Eo '\<[[:digit:]]{1,3}(\.[[:digit:]]{1,3}){3}\>'12:39
EaglemanWow thanks KeelG12:39
dnjksandhello12:40
cfhowlettdnjksand, greetigns12:41
dnjksandhave  you tired the new ubuntu ?12:42
MonkeyDustdnjksand  yes, as this is the ubuntu channel12:43
hillaryfor update is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581082/12:43
dnjksandhow do it work with amd ati gfx cards ?12:44
histo!ati | dnjksand12:44
MonkeyDusthillary  no, type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel12:44
ubottudnjksand: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto12:44
dnjksandare the amd gfx drivers still shit and nvidia the king ?12:45
hillarysudo apt-get update|http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581082/12:46
historlol you are just posting the same link12:46
hillarysudo apt-get upgrade|http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581080/12:46
MonkeyDusthillary  no, type "sudo apt-get update|pastebinit", without the quotes, and paste the url here in the channel12:46
* histo ohmy12:47
hillarysudo apt-get update|pastebinit,http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581082/12:48
hillaryit that ok?12:48
wasanzyhello12:48
ikthey wasanzy12:48
wasanzyam getting so many failed error when I run apt-get update :http://paste.scsys.co.uk/22612412:49
hillary sudo apt-get upgrade|pastebinit,http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581080/12:49
histohillary: No it's not okay12:49
wasanzyI did apt-get update --fix-missing  but the problem not solved12:50
histohillary: in a terminal type in            sudo apt-get update | pastebinit12:50
histohillary: then copy the link that it gives you and paste it here.12:50
ThinkT510!who | hillary12:51
ubottuhillary: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)12:51
histowasanzy: what is the output of cat /etc/issue12:51
MonkeyDusthillary  open a terminal and there you type "sudo apt-get update|pastebinit" -- you then get a URL -- paste that URL here12:51
* histo senses some trolling12:51
wasanzyhisto: buntu 10.10 \n \l12:51
ThinkT510wasanzy: 10.10 is no longer supported12:52
hillary ok ok understood12:52
histowasanzy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades12:52
histowasanzy: when 10.10 went end of life the repos went down.12:53
wasanzyok12:53
wasanzybut I think that is a bad thing12:53
ThinkT510wasanzy: the support periods are clearly defined12:54
histo!release | wasanzy12:54
ubottuwasanzy: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases12:54
histowasanzy: So they should support ever version ever made?12:54
histowasanzy: sorry every version ever made?  That would be rather difficult12:54
histowasanzy: if you want longer term support stick to LTS releases like 10.04 or 12.04 etc...12:55
test4hi guys12:56
test4i have a problem with ubuntu on acer aspire laptop...12:56
histo!details | test412:56
ubottutest4: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:56
test4Keyboard buttons wont work unless i hold them down, when i press one time it only makes sound.12:56
wasanzyso now I have to upgrade?12:57
histotest4: Does this happen in every application?12:57
test4histo terminal and keyboard settings test area.12:58
MonkeyDustwasanzy  yes12:58
cfhowlettwasanzy, only if you want updates12:58
test4and in menu i press buttons it makes sound..12:58
test4so yes histo12:58
ThinkT510wasanzy: a fresh install would be best12:58
histowasanzy: You don't have to do anything12:58
cfhowlettwasanzy, the distro will continue to work but ...12:58
wasanzythe problem first came when I was trying to install php: apt-get install php512:59
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wasanzyis not really about update12:59
MonkeyDustwasanzy  newer version is adviced, but not requiered - you simply won't get any upates12:59
ThinkT510wasanzy: then use a supported release12:59
histowasanzy: you can move your home to a sperate partition. And then just reinstall /  and all your settings and stuff would be saved12:59
test4histo:  its my friends laptop he just showed me the problem.. i dno what has he done.. i hear it just happened.. is it possible something is physicaly wrong with the keyboard? or.. some butons12:59
histo!seperatehome | wasanzy12:59
histo!separatehome | wasanzy12:59
ubottuwasanzy: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving12:59
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wasanzyok, thank you13:00
histotest4: No because it's reading the key presses if it's playing sounds on press events13:00
histotest4: xev might shed some light on what's going on13:00
hillaryThinkT510, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581229/13:01
_Rocky_evince pdf typesetting is bad. some characters seem to touch others or overlap. the same pdf looks good when I open it in adobe reader on windows13:01
histo_Rocky_: Try a different pdf reader in linux then13:01
MonkeyDust!pdf | _Rocky_13:02
ubottu_Rocky_: The Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source)13:02
bogi-_Rocky_,  maybe problem is in used fonts in document...13:03
histotest4: or try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and testing keyboard in cli.  Or you can boot in single user mode and check kb also. Maybe it's just a probelm with a setting in X.  If it still works in cli or su then I would start checking in his home .gconf or some settings files.13:03
histotest4: You could create another user and confirm that it's only his user experiencing the issue.13:03
MrokiiDoes anybody know why I get the following error message in weechat (possibly in other apps as well, don't know): dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-6qIqQMHf2j:13:04
ThinkT510hillary: wow, thats a lot of ppas13:04
MrokiiConnection refused13:04
MonkeyDusthillary  what ThinkT510 says: the PPAs are most probably the wrong-doers13:05
test4histo13:06
test4ctrl alt f113:07
test4it works there13:07
hillaryThinkT510:  what do i do13:07
ThinkT510hillary: get rid of them13:07
bogi-Does somebody know to fix problems with pydoc -k(ubuntu 12.04) ???I got traceback error when search ?13:07
ThinkT510!ppa-purge | hillary13:07
ubottuhillary: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html13:07
test4histo so how can i fix it?13:08
histotest4: okay so now try and eliminate it being a setting. Create  new user and test i there.13:08
ThinkT510hillary: i don't use ppas and discourage their use, they are likely the cause of 99% of all dependency issues13:08
wasanzyis 11.04 forever supported?13:08
cfhowlettThinkT510, what you said13:08
ThinkT510wasanzy: no13:08
cfhowlettwasanzy, no ubuntu is supported forever13:09
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cfhowlett!lts|wasanzy,13:09
ubottuwasanzy,: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)13:09
bogi-cfhowlett, please dont troll13:09
hillaryThinkT510: let me try follow your steps to remove them13:09
cfhowlettbogi-, what are you talking about?13:09
ixio2anyone with an AMD A8 APU know which audio output to use for HDMI ??13:09
ThinkT510wasanzy: are you just afraid of using unity? you don't have to use unity, there are other choices13:09
bogi-cfhowlett, ...abou supporting particular version till end of world13:10
cfhowlettwasanzy, if you want to use an ubuntu with a long support window, install LTS only13:10
test4histo login screen password i have to hold buttons down for them to work, so are you sure creating new user would maybe work`?13:10
bogi-cfhowlett, :D13:10
wasanzyok, I have to approval from my boss to upgrade the server now13:10
histotest4: no then it's a problem in X13:10
cfhowlettbogi-, read the message.  I said NO distro is supported forever in direct response to that question.13:10
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histotest4: make sure he didn't do anything goofy in his /etc/X11/xorg.conf13:10
bogi-cfhowlett, blah...sry dude my bad13:11
cfhowlettbogi-, np13:11
wasanzyis 11.04 still in support? I want to upgrade to that version13:11
ThinkT510wasanzy: no13:11
test4histo im not sure hes computer skills are even near to the knowing about the conf files13:11
ThinkT510!topic | wasanzy13:11
ubottuwasanzy: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic13:11
cfhowlettwasanzy, 11.04 is no longer supported.  current LTS is 12.0413:11
wasanzywhich ok13:12
histotest4: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup  && sudo restart lightdb13:12
histotest4: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup  && sudo restart lightdm13:12
histosorry typo in first line13:12
cfhowlettwasanzy, sorry, what?  I'd recommend LTS but that's just me.  I don't like upgrading every 6 months, and LTS now has 5 years of desktop and server support13:13
test4histo i didnt do that yet but another user indeed works. and seems like i was on locked computer password before. so i could log in very nicely now..13:15
sara_ubuntuhi boys one Q, my sda2 linux installation doesn't show in grub , plz help  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/        , grub-update doesn't help13:15
histowasanzy: I run LTS and don't jump every 6 months13:15
histowasanzy: I usually just jump LTS to LTS when .1 comes out13:15
histotest4: Okay so then there is a setting issue for his user.13:15
test4histo and how do i fix?13:16
mvk is there an app, or settings panel where i can manage my unity shortcuts/launcher shortcuts?13:16
* FlowRiser is away: Napping13:16
ThinkT510mvk: just drag and drop what you want13:16
mvk(copying and editing .desktop files a non reasonable solution to me..)13:16
wasanzyok, do you suggest I run "do-release-upgrade" or there is more to it?13:16
Guest85548sorry to interupt, but how do i go about getting help?13:17
ThinkT510wasanzy: clean install a supported version13:17
histotest4: How badly does he want his customizations that's he's made?13:17
sara_ubuntu histo can any1 guide me how to troubleshoot  : sda2 linux installation not show in grub , phttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/  , grub-update doesn't help13:17
cfhowlettwasanzy, clean install is your best option.13:17
sara_ubuntu histo can any1 guide me how to troubleshoot  : sda2 linux installation not show in grub , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/  , grub-update doesn't help13:17
test4histo im sure he could do without it.. if theres no other simple way to fix it.13:17
histowasanzy: I would move your home to separate partition then do a clean install of /13:17
wasanzyI only have ssh access to the server being hosted some where else13:17
_Rocky_wasanzy: +1 for clean install after data backup. upgrade might cause problems13:18
histowasanzy: oh boy13:18
histowasanzy: Why haven't you updated it?13:18
Matt__Running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS from USB and running installation and I keep getting stuck on "Where are you?" after it says it's finished copying files. The progress bar goes away and the cursor goes to the round loading one and it sticks here indefinately. Any solutions?13:18
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histowasanzy: Also why are you running 10.10 on a server instead of 10.04 or 12.04?13:19
sara_ubuntuMatt__ have u tried with "try without installing" does it work on ur hardware?13:19
antonio_does anyone know how to install adobe air on 12.10?13:19
histo!alternate | Matt__13:19
ubottuMatt__: The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD13:19
histoMatt__: I would check your cd for errors13:19
wasanzyhisto: I don't manage that server and it was just now that I was ask to install php and mysql before I realized the version13:19
test4so histo what shall i do?13:20
Matt__It has worked before on the same USB install and I've also reinstalled on the USB. And yes, I've run it on the same PC just recently but i had to format. (Installing alongside Windows 7 btw but it doesn't want to work on any of my 3 HDDs)13:20
wasanzyI don't know if it is a server version or desktop though, but it looks like there are some other applications on it13:20
ThinkT510wasanzy: you should chastise whoever did manage that server13:20
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wasanzyThinkT510: you are right, but right now I don't even knows who manages it may be my boss but well he only said, install php and mysql13:21
Guest29043*** I'm trying to start fresh with Ubuntu, but don't know how to wipe HDD clean. Can someone help?13:21
Matt__And I'm also on 'try without install', I have the install running in the background trying again but it stuck so I came here13:21
wasanzyso what option do I have left?13:21
cfhowlettGuest29043, just format the hdd when you install13:21
Guest29043i installed it using the web sintaller13:22
Guest29043i didnt see an option.. i missed it?13:22
cfhowlettGuest29043, web installer?  in ubuntu?13:22
histotest4: I don't know of a simple way perhaps someone else will?  But I would start ls -h  in his home and moving some of the .gnomexxxx directories to .gnomeback and .gconf etc...13:22
wasanzyand how do I check if the machine is actually running ubuntu server version? command I mean13:22
_Rocky_Guest29043: You will have an option called "Use entire hard disk" or something like that13:22
histotest4: I would start with .gconf13:22
histowasanzy: uname -a13:22
wasanzyoh right13:22
cfhowlettGuest29043, you mean the wubi/windows installer?13:23
wasanzyLinux accounts 2.6.35.4-rscloud #8 SMP Mon Sep 20 15:54:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:23
Guest29043yup13:23
wasanzyI think is a cloud server13:23
Guest29043so go back to windows and 'use entire disk'?13:23
cfhowlettGuest29043, fyi, wubi is designed for testing ubuntu, not long term installation.  If you want windows and ubuntu, I'd urge you to consider virtualbox or dual booting.13:24
MonkeyDustwasanzy  lsb_release -sd <-- does it say "server" ?13:24
test4histo i got it..near clock program was running where i can set universal access settings or something. dno what it is in english exactly.13:24
Guest29043k, i have a portable drive, i can use that instead of a usb stick right?13:24
wasanzyUbuntu 10.1013:25
Matt__Guest29043: You could install it to a USB drive and choose 'Erase everything and install' in the installation13:25
wasanzyit didn't say server13:25
histotest4: Oh yeah disability settings duh sorry I dind't htink of that.13:25
cfhowlettwasanzy, yes but you'll have to be careful with configuration13:25
test4histo there was an option about pressing key have to hold it long to accept the key or something.. system is not in english..13:25
histoGuest29043: yes they are the same13:25
Guest29043boom, thanks everyone13:25
test4histo thanks for help anyways :)13:25
wasanzyin this case what option do I have in terms of upgrading?13:25
histotest4: np13:25
histowasanzy: Who is administering the server?13:26
butch128I was (attempting) to install the latest Nvidia binary drivers.  Now logging into my machine as my main account (butch) just flickers and goes back to the original login screen.  Logging in as my Guest account works fine though.... Any idea what I can check?13:26
histowasanzy: locally13:26
wasanzyI don't really know13:26
cfhowlettwasanzy, again, clean install to a supported version is your best bet ...13:26
histowasanzy: okay well if you had to hard reset the system how would you accomplish that?13:26
keelGbutch128: have you checked syslog?13:26
ThinkT510wasanzy: then you need to find out and get physical access to it13:27
butch128keelG - i will now, thanks13:27
wasanzywhat is the physical access for? I mean what is the person suppose to do? clean install?13:27
ThinkT510wasanzy: to clean install yes13:28
wasanzyok, let me discuss with my boss and see13:28
histowasanzy: That's your best option you can try to upgrade but it's going to break and you will lose connection anyways.13:29
histowasanzy: actually I don't even thing you can try to upgrade I belive 11.04 is EOL too let me check13:29
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Matt__So does anyone know why the Ubuntu 12.04.1 install keeps getting stuck after "Where are you?" and 'Almost done copying files' ?13:29
butch128Jan 28 01:55:42 ubuntu-desktop gnome-session[3796]: WARNING: Session 'ubuntu' runnable check failed: Exited with code 113:29
butch128could that be it?13:29
cfhowlettwasanzy, 11.04 is EOL.  You're options are quite limited ...13:30
histoMatt__: yes I would check the USB for errors13:30
sara_ubuntucan any1 guide me how to troubleshoot  : sda2 linux installation not show in grub , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/  , grub-update doesn't help13:31
histoMatt__: can you hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console while it's stuck?13:31
histo!grub2 | sara_ubuntu13:31
ubottusara_ubuntu: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)13:31
wasanzythe server I learn is a cloud server at Rackspace13:31
Matt__histo: Yes, I can use Ctrl+Alt+F113:32
ThinkT510sara_ubuntu: while it might not help you i just wanted to say you might need to consider upgrading your 10.04 install, desktop support runs out in april13:32
sara_ubuntuthanks histo let me check13:32
histoMatt__: hit ctrl+alt+f413:32
wasanzyso I guess you understand my situation now? at this point, I guess I only need to upgrade13:32
wasanzyrunning a command13:32
nicestAdieWOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST13:33
Matt__histo: Ok13:33
sara_ubuntuthanks ThinkT510 but i just want to be able to boot into it ... i just need some guidence how to add manually an os in grub213:33
histoMatt__: any errors there?13:33
ThinkT510wasanzy: that will be a royal headache13:33
cfhowlettwasanzy, not like your system will spontaneously crash or anything but for any kind of support or to access updated features, yes an upgrade is required.13:33
C-S-BSince setting up ipv6, my static ipv4 address keeps renewing to a different IP to static assignment in network manager13:33
Chilixspa13:33
Matt__histo: No, just 'Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS' and *Documentation13:33
Chilix!Spanish13:34
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.13:34
wasanzyThinkT510: yes I agree with you but I don't have any other option left13:34
histoMatt__: ctrl+alt+F7 will get you back to GUI  can you use keyboard keys to navigate the options?13:34
wasanzycfhowlett: yes upgrade is what I want to do, what how to go about it is my question now, just ssh access to the server13:34
cfhowlettwasanzy, take your time and access the resources at #ubuntu-server13:34
Matt__histo: Ctrl+Alt+F1 says something about 'Asking for cache data failed' a few times13:35
cfhowlettwasanzy, there is the PXE network install method but I have never done so can't advise13:35
wasanzywhat will "do-release-upgrade"  upgrade to at this time?13:35
icerootwasanzy: depending on your settings13:36
Matt__histo: I'm using Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to GUI, and yes, I'm using my keyboard and mouse here, but on the install window, it's just the O loading cursor13:36
icerootwasanzy: nothing, to the next stable release, to the next lts-release13:36
icerootwasanzy: to the next lts is only working when you are on an older lts13:36
_Rocky_wasanzy: Can you create a new empty partition?13:36
histoMatt__: did you select a timezone?13:36
wasanzyiceroot: what settings do I need? and where do I set it?13:37
_Rocky_wasanzy: If you can, you can do a fresh install on that partition, configure all your programs and boot into that13:37
wasanzy_Rocky_: No13:37
hillary_ThinkT510: how do i locate the ppa13:37
Matt__histo: It gets stuck right after selecting a time zone. The loading bar at the bottom goes away after 'Almost done copying files' and it gets stuck indefinately13:37
Matt__histo:I've left it there for hours and no progress13:38
ThinkT510hillary_: i don't use ppas so i can't help you sorry13:38
wasanzy_Rocky_: I can't create partition, what I only want right now is to be able to install mysql and php for them13:38
MonkeyDusthillary_  system settings, sources, other software13:38
antonio_does anyone know how to install adobe air on 12.10?13:39
hillary_MonkeyDust: ok let me try13:39
lapdiswhat is the best text-editor to use in a terminal if I am more used to notepad than vim?13:39
cfhowlettwasanzy, can I suggest something?  download the LTS 12.04, create a boot USB, reboot and go into the USB and figure out your stuff.  Then duplicate your configs and install on your actual machine13:40
ThinkT510cfhowlett: its a rackspace cloud server13:40
histoMatt__: Well what is the caching error?  Also maybe look around /tmp for an install log. I'm not sure where they are saving it now.13:40
cfhowlettThinkT510, errr, disregard my suggestions13:40
wasanzyok13:40
_Rocky_lapdis: I suggest emacs. small learning curve involved but it pays off really well.13:41
wasanzythis is really killing my brain13:41
cfhowlettwasanzy, it's solvable, man.  Just not easy.13:41
wasanzycfhowlett: ok, but I don't know what settings I need before running the command : do-release-upgrade13:42
wasanzyand lsb_release -sd didn't see it is a server version too13:42
Matt__histo: I'm not sure, it just says that followed by 'assuming drive cache: Write through'13:42
wasanzydidn't say I mean13:42
BluesKajHi folks13:43
_Rocky_lapdis: infact, I am chatting with you through emacs :)13:44
histoMatt__: I would look for an install log. Or ask here.  What version of ubuntu are you installing by the way?13:44
antonio_does anyone know how to install adobe air on 12.10?13:44
hillary_MonkeyDust: After removing all the ppa i run update?13:44
wasanzyany more suggestion?13:44
lapdis:O13:44
Matt__histo: 12.04.1 LTS, and how do I find an insall log?13:44
histoMatt__: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/ch06s01.html13:45
daniel_mum@13:45
ThinkT510lapdis: nano is a simple terminal text-editor13:45
MonkeyDusthillary_  update and reboot to make sure13:45
Matt__histo: Oh sorry, it's 12.04.1 LTS x6413:45
histoMatt__: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/graphical.html13:46
hillary_MonkeyDust: ok Thanks will inform you the results13:46
wasanzyEeeesh, do-release-upgrade is not even installed on the machine13:48
_Rocky_antonio_: download air installer .bin from adobe website and run it as super user13:48
antonio__Rocky_: its a 32 bit version..I'm on 6413:49
wasanzyhello apt-get upgrade on upgraded some of the software but not the OS13:51
cfhowlettwasanzy, upgrade is not release-update13:52
wasanzyhelp me then because am lost13:52
histowasanzy: You can't upgrade the software they repos you are trying to upgrade from are no longer online.13:53
histowasanzy: hence it's end of life13:53
wasanzyI though do-release-upgrade should have come with the distro by default but is not13:53
Pici!eolupgrades13:53
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:53
histoPici: we've tried explaining that already13:53
MonkeyDustwasanzy   start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes13:53
Picihisto: ah13:53
Picihisto: just passing through ;)13:54
histoahh13:54
cfhowlettwasanzy, trying to send you a cheat sheet ...13:54
histowasanzy: we've all offered numerous suggestions on how to solve your problem. Please stop asking13:54
wasanzyhisto: I understand but the problem is not solved13:55
mrrrrhello :)13:56
mrrrri wonder how i can block/turn off the wifi hardware13:56
histowasanzy: Yes because you refuse to accept the truth.13:57
histowasanzy: YOU CAN"T UPGRADE FROM 10.1013:57
histomrrrr: is this on a laptop?13:57
mrrrryes13:57
aim__hai13:58
MonkeyDustwasanzy  you'll have to do a fresh install, or tell the maintainer to do it13:58
mrrrrfn+f2 isnt working13:58
histomrrrr: look around for a hardware switch or function key combination. Most laptops have them. is one way13:58
histomrrrr: look in your bios to disable it.  Or you can blacklist the driver it's using.13:59
mrrrrhisto: no switches, and function key aint working14:00
mrrrrk will look in bios brb14:00
domiewhat about rfkill14:00
histodomie: there are many ways of doing it.14:01
zseczesc wszustkim14:04
cfhowlettzse, english???14:04
kostkon!pl | zse14:04
ubottuzse: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.14:04
arooni-mobilei have a thinkpad t420; i want to charge my usb devices when ubuntu is in susspend mode.  ubuntu versoin 12.10. ..... ideas?14:05
mrrrrhey i turned it off in bios so now i cant find it in the tray, the light is still on tho14:06
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histomrrrr: rfkill14:08
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mrrrrk14:09
worej goście14:10
Pici!pl | wor14:10
ubottuwor: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.14:10
wornapewno !!14:10
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hillaryMonkeyDust: i have reboot and now saying update available 2.4mb14:16
wasanzyhisto: ok thank you14:18
wasanzybut why can't I upgrade from 10.10?14:18
ThinkT510wasanzy: because it is eol, the repos were repurposed14:19
xkerneldoes gnome-panel uses GTk3 ?14:19
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MonkeyDustwasanzy  because it's no LTS and the version following 10.10 is also no longer available14:19
wasanzyok14:19
PiciTechnically you should be able to use old-releases, but you're not going to have a good time doing that14:20
nicestAdieWOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST14:20
MonkeyDustnicestAdie  are you a bot?14:22
GadgetGood Morning! Is anyone home?14:26
worhi14:27
_Rocky_yup Gadget and wor, what bothers you?14:28
GadgetMorning wor. I have the strangest graphical issue on my  dell 630 laptop with 12.1014:28
nicestAdie>:/14:28
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wornot good14:29
GadgetThe "Dash home" button causes a graphical error jacking up the entire screen.14:29
GadgetIt only seems to happen when I click that button but everything else works right as rain. Has anyone else heard about anything regarding this?14:30
wornot good14:30
ThinkT510!screenshot | Gadget14:30
ubottuGadget: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.14:30
stef1aI'm wondering why lines 18 and 19 here don't result in the word "test" being echo'd over and over again, and what the proper syntax is for setting the string of a return value of a function to an array cell: http://pastebin.com/x2Fx2weK14:30
ThinkT510stef1a: might get a better response in #bash14:31
stef1aThinkT510: thanks; will head over there.14:31
HowdyDoodyI am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"14:33
GadgetHave to drive my wife to work. I'll post a SS when i get back. Thanks!14:33
Matt__histo: You still here?14:34
ubuntu_demonhey. I have a problem with an upgrade to ubuntu 12.0414:35
ubuntu_demonI pressed alt-tab during the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. Now I see my background but nothing else.  When I left for work this morning my disk was still working so I left it on.14:35
intr0x80I'm trying to get Grub2 to send its input/output to a serial port.  Does anyone have experience with this?  I have set GRUB_TERMINAL="serial" and have GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND="serial..." in /etc/default/grub, but it still does not work. Any ideas?14:36
ubuntu_demonIs there a way to get the focus back to the upgrade process ?  I am able to go to a ctrl-alt-f1 and type commands.  I would rather not do a reboot.14:36
MonkeyDustubuntu_demon  try alt-tab agzin14:36
MonkeyDustagain*14:36
woruhjuhhjuhuj14:36
ubuntu_demonMonkeyDust should alt-tab work in Ubuntu 12.04 ?14:36
worfuck me now14:37
MonkeyDustubuntu_demon  go ahead and try14:37
ubuntu_demonI will when I get back home tonight\14:37
ubuntu_demoni made this thread to describe my problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210962814:38
wordobrze14:38
ubuntu_demonI found multiple people who have had the same problem14:38
Matt__yes, Alt+Tab works in 12.0414:38
mrrrru guys know a good way to check for activity on my network14:38
ActionParsnipmrrrr: ntop14:38
ActionParsnipmrrrr: or wireshark14:38
ubuntu_demonWould there be any other way to get back to the upgrade window if alt-tab doesnt work ?14:39
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: drag the others out of the way, maybe.14:39
mrrrraction ty14:39
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: if you hold ALT, you can drag from any point on the application windows14:40
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: I don't see any other windows. I only see my empty background. no butons/files/icons or whatever14:40
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: so the installer window has vanished?14:41
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: everything has vanished14:41
dr_willissounds like it krashed14:41
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: is this in an installed OS?14:41
Matt__http://imagebin.org/244534 Does anyone know how to fix this freeze-up in 12.04.1 LTS x64 installation?14:41
beowulf2any good games out their for linux? i'm looking for something simple and addictive, like a small racing game or something like Worms (PC)14:41
ActionParsnipbeowulf2: super tux kart14:42
ActionParsnipbeowulf2: urban terror14:42
thomas____Can anybody help me please?14:42
ActionParsnipbeowulf2: frozen bubble14:42
thomas____I'm running a GTX 660 Ti and can't get it to work14:42
ActionParsnipbeowulf2: there is a worms clone with hedgehogs and penguins, i forget its name14:42
thomas____I have already tried downloading from other ppas (x-edgers and x-swat)14:43
ThinkT510beowulf2: warmux or hedgewars14:43
thomas____jockey isn't working either14:43
ActionParsnipthomas____: does your CPU use sandy or ivy bridge?14:43
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: this is during an upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to Ubuntu 12.04 using the graphical update manager tool14:43
thomas____AMD Phenom14:43
ActionParsnipthomas____: tried:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; sudo nvidia-xconfig    then rebooting?14:43
thomas____tried that a million times14:44
thomas____with different nvidia-currents installed14:44
thomas____nvidia-xconfig doesn't give an error tho14:44
ActionParsnipthomas____: have you read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues?14:44
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: I have descibed the entire situation here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1247841014:44
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: if you reboot, does it help?14:46
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: I don't want to reboot ... it's in the middle of upgrading14:46
danman1453i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 yesterday, I cant access my network share (access denied), and it wont load to the gui. It starts, but then backs out to a boot screen with something about a battery check?14:46
danman1453can i get some help with this?14:47
dr_willisdanman1453:  thats proberly just the last message befor it fails..  not a clue as to why its failinbg14:47
thomas____http://pastebin.com/GX0FRw2u14:47
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: if there is absolutely no way to get back to my upgrade window I will go to control+alt+f1 and try to finish the upgrade manually before rebooting14:47
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: not sure dude, I always clean install so have no idea about upgrade issues14:47
dr_willisdanman1453:  login to the console if you can . test with startx - see if it loads14:47
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: could run ccsm (I assume you are using compiz) and enable the ring switcher, may help#14:47
danman1453if i ctrl-alt-f1, i can login and start startx14:47
danman1453startx loads fine.14:48
danman1453sorta.... a lot of my options seem to have changed.14:48
danman1453My load time to access /meda/FreeAgent\ Drive has gone WAY up14:48
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: but you do know about unity key combinations ... unity is new for me ... I have always used Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.1014:48
ActionParsnipthomas____: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a14:49
ActionParsnipubuntu_demon: know about...in what way?14:49
thomas____Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l14:49
thomas____Linux Wiedijk-Ubuntu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:49
danman1453dr_willis, as a side note, if i access another network share hosted on that pc, a folder on the main hd, i can access it fine.14:50
ubuntu_demonActionParsnip: maybe you know some keycombinations which might get me my window back :)\14:50
ubuntu_demon:)14:50
ActionParsnipthomas____: did you try with an xorg.conf file. Seems the monitor probing is failing '(WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting14:50
danman1453just not the external hd14:50
danman1453I can pastebin my bootlog if it would help dr_willis14:51
thomas____ActionParsnip: And how can I make one14:51
thomas____using nvidia-xconfig?14:51
ActionParsnipthomas____: sudo nvidia-xconfig     makes one14:52
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thomas____I ran that already a thousand times14:52
dr_willisthen you should have a thousand of them ;)14:52
ActionParsnipthomas____: you can then run:  gksudo nvidia-settings    and set the res and refresh to something14:52
thomas____nvidia-settings says I(m not using the nvidia driver14:53
danman1453dr_willis, I also discovered I cant change permissions as sudo for my external usb hd.14:55
thomas____ActionParsnip: any more ideas?14:55
danman1453using chmod a+wxr /media/FreeAgent\ Drive, it appears to finish, but there are no changes14:56
ActionParsnipthomas____: i can give you mine, it may help. when the driver gets loaded, you can start tweaking14:57
dagerikdan: -a is nit all14:57
thomas____ActionParsnip: yo14:57
thomas____toops14:57
thomas____oops14:57
thomas____goddamn14:58
thomas____I meant: ActionParsnip: you can always try14:58
ActionParsnipthomas____: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf14:58
thomas____hmm14:59
thomas____'nvidia' isn't even mentioned14:59
dr_willisdanman1453:  what filesystgem is it?14:59
jhutchins_wk.14:59
danman1453ntfs i think.14:59
danman1453its a 1.5tb drive14:59
dr_willisdanman1453:   you dont chown/chmod ntfs/cfat14:59
dr_williscfat14:59
danman1453ok?15:00
danman1453is the ntfs access broken after my upgrade?15:00
dr_willissee if root user can access it and write to it15:00
dr_willisor mount it by hand with the ntfs-3g command15:00
danman1453i can cd into it with no problems from ssh as su15:01
jhutchins_wkdanman1453: You set the permissions in the fstab entry that defines the mount.15:01
GadgetTest15:01
ThinkT510!test | Gadget15:02
ubottuGadget: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )15:02
danman1453i just checked, i can make new directories on it too.15:02
danman1453fstab?15:02
ThinkT510!fstab | danman145315:02
ubottudanman1453: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions15:02
dr_willisso its mounted and working. ;)15:03
* dr_willis frogets what the original problem was..15:03
danman1453as superuser, yes15:03
danman1453there is no entry for it in /etc/fstab15:03
dr_willisits automounted by the fuse/udev stuff.15:03
danman1453ok15:04
danman1453so why are the permissions screwed after the update?15:04
danman1453does it have something to do with the broken boot sequence?15:04
GadgetGood Morning. I was here earlier and I was having a graphical issue whenever I click the "dash home" button on the upper right hand corner of my desktop. I've uploaded a screenshot here: http://postimage.org/image/4t3jo6cnb/ would anyone know why this might be happening?15:05
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GadgetI googled it earlier and tried to find a solution but didn't come up with any answers. I'm running 32bit 12.10 fully updated.15:06
GadgetOn a fresh install on a Dell Latitude D63015:07
GadgetOtherwise all system operations are performing correctly- only when i click that button do i receive a graphical issue.15:07
sgtkilljoyGadget: vid card? drivers installed?15:08
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GadgetUnder driver it says "unknown" should i go to the Dell website and download the latest drivers for the laptop?15:09
danman1453dr_willis, ok, i have determined it is in fact ntfs using blkid. I am looking over the fstab page you posted to add it to the fstab options.15:09
sgtkilljoyGadget: no, my i pm u?15:09
sgtkilljoymay*15:09
danman1453The fstab page says that external "flash" drive are usually mounted by gnome15:09
GadgetSure! Thanks for the help.15:10
danman1453but can be mounted in fstab15:10
GadgetHow do i make my text red?15:10
GadgetSorry- never use IRC.15:10
icerootdanman1453: what "gnome" is doinig (its not gnome) is mounting the device when the user is loggeg in and the device is only mounted for that user15:10
icerootdanman1453: with fstab you are mounting something at boot for everyone and dont need a graphical login first15:11
icerootGadget: there is no reason to use colored text here15:12
danman1453dr_willis, do i have to reboot to reload the fstab entries?15:13
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danman1453also, what is the -3g tag on ntfs-3g do?15:14
mrrrrgood firewall for linux?15:14
icerootmrrrr: iptables15:16
iceroot!ufw | mrrrr15:16
ubottumrrrr: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.15:16
icerootdanman1453: Third Generation Read/Write NTFS Driver15:16
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icerootdanman1453: also see "man ntfs-3g"15:16
danman1453ok15:17
danman1453hang on..... its rebooting.15:17
Guest23204anyone on who can help me,i have a prob with the amd fglrx drivers15:17
Guest23204can't seem to install it15:17
Guest23204apt-get can't find it15:17
danman1453fyi, the server is headless in the basement.15:17
iceroot!ati | Guest2320415:17
ubottuGuest23204: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto15:17
danman1453so, most of what i do is over ssh15:17
nibbler...if i only had ONE problem with my ati... >:-(15:17
nibbleranyway - ssh -R, how can i make the tunnel bind to 0.0.0.0 or any public IP instead of lo/127.0.0.1 on the target server of the ssh connection?15:18
Guest23204can anyone tell me is there a channel only for graphic probs15:18
Guest23204?15:18
luvs-lightw8Guest23204: Have you looked for "Additional Drivers" ?15:19
Ginger26nope15:19
tqrsthas anyone else had issues with the dropbox daemon silently dying for no apparent reason? "dropbox start" gets it back up for a while, but this sometimes results in data loss because of sync issues.15:19
Guest23204yep15:19
MonkeyDustGuest23204  it's faster to just ask here and wait15:19
Guest23204something is not right with the linux itself15:19
Guest23204can't even find hal for some reason15:19
luvs-lightw8what're you looking for hal for?15:19
MonkeyDust!hal | Guest2320415:20
ubottuGuest23204: hal is in the process of being deprecated.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_abstraction_layer for more info.15:20
icerootGuest23204: hal is not used anymore15:20
ThinkT510Guest23204: hal has been depreciated for years15:20
marttiwhat, seriously that thing is still around?15:20
Guest23204i mean the HArdware Manager15:20
icerootGuest23204: GNU/Linux is using udev now15:20
BluesKajtqrst, do you have dropboxd script setup in startup settings ?15:20
MonkeyDustGuest23204  better start from the beginning, what have you tried and what went wrong?15:21
tqrstBluesKaj: no, but I've had the daemon die while still logged in15:21
Guest23204Ok so i tried to get the fglrx drivers for my Ati Radeon HD 575015:22
tqrstBluesKaj: annoyingly enough, there doesn't seem to be any logs anywhere15:22
Guest23204but it failed15:22
Guest23204can't find them15:22
Guest23204so i downloaded them manually from ubuntus site15:23
Guest23204from the how to15:23
Guest23204failed again,says it can't find the driver15:23
MonkeyDustGuest23204  don't hit enter too often, keep it in one line15:23
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marttiunelievable people still do that...15:24
Guest23204sorry,getting carried away a bit,anyway i tried with the software sources15:24
marttiGuest23204: what software sources, what error message, what driver did you put where?15:24
sgtkilljoyGuest22700: ur card is no longer surrported by fglrx15:25
marttihmm, interesting. watching you handle this could help me with a similar problem.15:26
Guest23204it can see my graphic card,and i selected the fglrx driver,so it says 1 proprietary driver in use15:26
danman1453dr_willis, boot sequence still fails after battery check. i suspect it is graphics related... I changed video cards for just that reason for 11.0415:26
danman1453is there an error log somewhere i can see to check what is failing where?15:27
josenetoMy microsoft Lifecam is not working in any video chat aplications like skype or even cheese15:27
Guest23204but when i go to details,it still says unknown driver in graphics,and my graphic card would not work15:27
MonkeyDust!webcam > joseneto15:27
ubottujoseneto, please see my private message15:27
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josenetoubottu, how do i do that ?15:27
ubottujoseneto: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:28
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jtateI'm trying to build pytest for precise.  I've branched it locally, and run uupdate to bump the version to the latest 2.3.4 (from 2.3.2), but bzr doesn't know about the directory created by uupdate, so refuses to builddeb.  What's the step that I'm missing?15:29
jackinackerThank you for helping! Updating the graphical drivers is exactly what I neeeded.15:30
jackinackerNow working as intended.15:30
Guest23204ok i will restart the pc,i might have done something right after all,see ya in a minute :D15:31
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erle-why is middle mouse button pasting again?15:34
erle-how do i stop it from that?15:34
erle-it wasnt a while ago15:34
erle-ubuntu 12.10 here15:34
ThinkT510erle-: that is a xorg feature, anything you highlight gets pasted on middle-click15:35
danman1453where are the start on login scripts located?15:35
erle-ThinkT510, i know, but ubuntu had it deactivated in previous versions15:35
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parvesh-babuhi15:37
zykotick9erle-: i think you must be mistaken.  i don't think ubuntu would disable Xorg's paste...15:38
ThinkT510zykotick9 +115:38
marttierle-: try gpointing-device-settings maybe15:39
josenetoMy microsoft Lifecam is not working in any video chat aplications like skype or even cheese15:41
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Tera_Giga_MegSI tried installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit, but when I get to this15:42
Tera_Giga_MegSand hit forward I get taken to a prompt where it says "No root file system is defined." I don't even get to any part about partitioning, and there is nothing for me to choose or select from15:42
josenetoMy microsoft Lifecam is not working in any video chat aplications like skype or even cheese15:43
MonkeyDust!repeat | joseneto15:43
ubottujoseneto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/15:43
marttijoseneto: do something about it.15:43
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josenetoim trying but i dont know what to do15:44
PokemonAcerhello15:44
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Tera_Giga_MegShttp://askubuntu.com/questions/135705/no-root-file-system-is-defined-error-during-installation  got my answer thanks15:45
APEMAYA_ciao15:45
APEMAYA_!list15:45
ubottuAPEMAYA_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:45
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BluesKajtqrst, Alt+F2 then gnome-session-properties , see if the dropboxd  ( daemon ) is in the list15:47
josenetomartti: what can i do to solve the problem15:47
tqrstBluesKaj: yep15:47
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marttijoseneto: type lsusb, if it's connected on usb... then try finding out the necessary steps if it's listed15:48
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PokemonAcerHey, did you know that if you use wubi from the discs you can send of for, you CANNOT install it with windows15:49
BluesKajtqrst, do you have the icon in your panel at startup? and if so is there no indicator when it disconnects ?15:49
PokemonAcerYou have to download the wubi installer from ubuntu.com15:49
tqrstBluesKaj: there's a gray dropbox icon in the panel, which I've never seen in any other colour than plain gray15:49
|nv|s|b|elol, using wubi is like towing a mack truck with a volkswagon15:50
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FlowRiser!hi15:50
josenetomartti: tis the output Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub15:50
josenetoBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:50
josenetoBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub15:50
josenetoBus 001 Device 020: ID 045e:0772 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam Studio15:50
josenetoBus 001 Device 004: ID 192f:0616 Avago Technologies, Pte.15:50
FloodBot1joseneto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:50
FlowRiserhi15:50
josenetosorry15:50
tqrstBluesKaj: and "startup" is a bit of a weird concept to me, as I rarely if ever log out15:50
marttijoseneto: do you see it?15:50
PokemonAcerI actually  have 3 Ubuntu CD's I got for free15:51
josenetoyes15:51
josenetomarttu yes15:51
marttiI guess it has device id 20 because you kept connecting and disconnecting it. smart idea.15:51
josenetomartti: but i dont know what to do from there15:51
PokemonAcerwait, I just looked at Ubuntu Server download, It actually sais that 12.04 will be supported longer than 12.10 WTF???15:52
escott!lts | PokemonAcer15:52
ubottuPokemonAcer: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)15:52
marttijoseneto: https://www.google.ch/search?q=045e%3A0772+cam+driver+on+linux "appears to work"15:52
BluesKajtqrst, hmm, that's wrong , run , dropbox status..  in the terminal15:52
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tqrstBluesKaj: says it's running15:52
tqrstBluesKaj: (well, "Idle", but syncing works etc)15:53
MonkeyDustPokemonAcer  and mind your language15:53
PokemonAcerSorry15:53
craigbass1976I don't know what the proper term is, may ungroup.  Is there a way to ungroup windows so that I can alt+tab quickly through multiple instances of the same app ?15:53
PokemonAcerBut, for example when the new Ubuntu Comes out, 12.10 will be a LTS?15:53
BluesKajtqrst, dropbox start ..what happens ?15:54
MonkeyDustPokemonAcer  no, 14.04 will be the next LTS15:54
tqrstBluesKaj: "To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url:"15:54
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PokemonAcerAaah15:54
PokemonAcerakso, about my language, ill do stars next time15:54
tqrstBluesKaj: "dropbox stop" gives "Dropbox daemon stopped", then if I start again, I get "Starting dropbox...done!"15:55
BluesKajtq did you go thru the link process/wizard after installing dropbox15:55
BluesKajtqrst, ^15:55
tqrstBluesKaj: yes15:55
tqrstand dropbox *is* running15:55
tqrstit just dies once in a while15:55
tqrsteverything else works fine15:56
BluesKajtqrst, it looks like the startup script isn't starting in your panel altho your install seems ok ...strange15:56
tyler_dI just updated jdk and as a result cannot get skype to run15:58
tyler_derrors are http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1582484/15:59
tqrstBluesKaj: I don't understand what startup scripts have to do with a machine that's been up for 45 days15:59
Ghost1227I'm getting a "required virtual size does not fit available size" error when trying to use dual monitors. This configuration has always worked before under older versions of Ubuntu as well as older, and current, versions of other distros. Any thoughts on what has changed?15:59
tqrstBluesKaj: I sent dropbox an email - maybe they'll have ideas16:00
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tellytubbyhi guys16:01
BluesKajtqrst, maybe a reboot once in while will reload some updated config files , seems a lot of apps need a reboot lately16:01
rumpelhello. I can't unmount my thumbdrive (ntfs partition). Lsof/fuser/dmesg shows nothing. Did sync, still no luck. Any ideas?16:01
danman1453my lightdm greeter on boot is failing according to lightdm.log16:02
BluesKajthe uptime pi**ing contest deosn't mean much anymore , tqrst16:02
MonkeyDustrumpel  type sudo blkid, with the thumbdrive plugged in, do you see it16:03
danman1453would that cause my boot screen to hand at checking battery status?16:03
rumpelMonkeyDust, I do. It's mounted properly.16:03
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MonkeyDustrumpel  misread it, you can't UNmount, sorry, try fuser -m [mount point]16:04
zykotick9BluesKaj: you're right, it's all about uptime % ;)16:04
rumpelMonkeyDust, nothing. I also tried lsof. Nothing shows up (also used sudo).16:05
BluesKajzykotick9, I could care less about uptime ...I shut down almost every night16:05
MonkeyDustrumpel  and umout -f ?         (force)16:08
MonkeyDustrumpel  and umount -f ?         (force)16:08
josenetomartti didnt work, couldnt find anything helpfull16:08
Pici*umount16:08
rumpelMonkeyDust, still says that device is busy and unmounting is not possible.16:08
MonkeyDustrumpel  busy doing what, does it say? play music that's on it, for example?16:09
rumpelMonkeyDust, I wonder in which state the system will leave the filesystem if I shut down and not even using root permissions seems to allow unmounting it properly. :/16:10
rumpelMonkeyDust, that would probably show up using lsof/fuser i guess. Nothing seems to use the thumbdrive actually.16:10
bipulI am unable to connect Network Adaptor (Bridged) in my ubuntu 12.04.16:12
NvveenHi all, I'm having a very annoying problem. When I try to log into my account, unity doesn't load the panels, so my screen stays blank. Gnome 2 and cinnamon still work though. Anyone that can help me?16:17
NvveenFailing that, could someone then tell me how to reset Unity16:17
Nvveen?16:18
joseneto martti didnt work, couldnt find anything helpfull16:18
escottNvveen, dont use unity myself but i always thought it was unity --reset16:18
Nvveenescott, that's deprecated (gives me an error), and using dconf reset doesn't do anything either16:19
NvveenI also tried apt-get install --reinstall unity-common unity unity-2d but that doesn't have an effect either16:19
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dapacaIs that channel suporting also ubuntu studio16:20
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MonkeyDustdapaca  #ubuntustudio16:21
NvveenAlso,when I opened the compiz config manager ccsm in Gnome, the Unity plugin wasn't enabled. Enabling it and the dependencies didn't work though16:21
NvveenAnyone?16:24
habstinatI tried to install Ubuntu (or rather, Edubuntu) via Wubi but it failed. Here is the logfile: <http://paste.ubuntu.com/1582651/> What could be causing it to fail? How can it be fixed?16:24
danman1453stupid upgrades..... >:O16:25
NvveenOh yeah, after a few minutes of the blank screen a 'system program problem detected' message pops up, and if I report the error, it says /usr/bin/Xorg is the culprit, but the Xorg log files don't say anything16:26
beowulf26 “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.16:27
beowulf22 “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.16:27
beowulf2oop16:27
beowulf2s16:27
FloodBot1beowulf2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:27
beowulf2wrong paste16:27
cozI have seen bug reports on the screen flickering with nouveau as well as nvidia on 12.04,, has anyone come up with solutions?16:28
omen__Hello16:29
katsumebliskcoz: I've only had screen flickering on the kernel used in 12.04 with nouveau. Proprietary drivers fixes it. Also, the kernel in 12.10 fixed it for me too.16:30
katsumebliskcoz: nouveau in 12.10's kernel^^16:30
danman1453my lightdm x-0-greeter.log says permission denied to /var/lib/lightdm/.xauthority   ..... there is no .Xauthority in that folder?16:30
cozkatsumeblisk,  interesting, the kernel updates on 12.04 here have made it worse.. and I have clean installed several times with the same results :(16:30
katsumebliskcoz: What GPU? I have a GTX 560 Ti.16:31
cozkatsumeblisk,  7600gt16:31
danman1453nvm16:31
cozkatsumeblisk,  I dont like 12.10 much16:31
craigbass1976https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/989272  Has anyone seen a way to address this, other than switching off to XFCE?16:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 989272 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher groups windows of the same application" [Undecided,Invalid]16:31
omen__Any one have any info on putting java on 12.04 ubuntu server 32-bit? the ways i have found cause a error ValueError: cannot convert float NaN to integer16:32
cozkatsumeblisk,  thanks for the info thoughm :)16:32
cozthough16:32
cozomen__,  are you using the ppa for oracle java 8 ?16:33
tomemozokHi all the guy with the driver problems here.I have a bigger problem now.ubuntu starts without the launch bar on the left,and a lot of strange lines are appearing on screen.i did manage to install the proprietary drivers,but can't do anything else now.What to do now?can anyone help me?16:33
omen__im rather new to ubuntu server the command i used was sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java16:34
coztomemozok, nvidia?16:34
tomemozokP.s. I am on my phone now,since smuxi can't br opened from my terminal for some reason...might go slow with typing16:34
tomemozokNope ati16:34
coztomemozok,  I definitly cant help,, I have always been an nvidia guy sorry, I know others here have much more expertise with ati than I do16:35
tomemozokSpecifically Ati radeon HD 5750 with fglrx installed now.16:35
studdugieHello. Apport keeps pop up and complaining the evolution data server is crashing. Since I don't use evolution for anything I uninstalled it which also uninstalls (w/o warning me first) the clock panel applet. Is there a way to keep the clock panel applet and remove evolution?16:35
cozomen__,  did you then do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:35
cozomen__,  then  sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer16:36
omen__trying now16:37
dapacathak yuo <MonkeyDust> I go there but hence ubuntu studio is running on sweat ubuntu community. I would like to thank you all about this awesome piece of software and Mr Linus to make it available for everybody. It is my first day on linux and I hope that is just a beginning of it. So all the best to everybody and I hope to learn it and share it16:37
cozomen__,  depending on internet speed, the installation can take from 45 seconds to several minutes16:38
icerooti am getting tar: .: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: Operation not permitted  on a directory with rwxrwxrwx (tar will be run as others), why am i getting that error when tar is trying to extract files? others have rwx.16:38
cozomen__,  fios about 45 seconds16:38
escotticeroot, who will own the files extracted by tar16:39
icerootescott: a user which is known on the system but is not the owner/group16:40
NvveenWell, reinstalling the nvidia drivers didn't work, still no panels in Unity. Anyone able to help me?16:40
escotticeroot, but not the user who is doing the untarring?16:40
tomemozokAnyone knoes any channel for graphic problems?? Maybie i'll have more luck there...16:40
icerootescott: yes the user hwich is executing tar16:40
icerootescott: the user will own the files but he is in "others"16:40
ploverI am having a very odd problem with the Ubuntu Studio desktop which I'm not even quite sure how to describe. When I boot, a previous session is being restored. However, the desktop is mostly nonfunctional.  No windows have a top title bar, and many of them have their menu bar glued into the desktop taskbar.  So far I haven't even been able to get a terminal window that I can use, but Firefox is running well enough that I can be here v16:40
escotticeroot, so "." is owned by alice:alice with permissions 777 and the files created by tar are owned by bob:bob who wants to change it to 755 but cannot16:41
escottice, and the tar instance is running as bob:bob16:41
icerootescott: correct16:41
icerootescott: yes16:41
escotticeroot, and this is a standard POSIX compliant filesystem (ie not FAT/NTFS)16:42
icerootescott: and if i get unix-permissions correct i am allowed because others have rwx16:42
icerootescott: ext216:42
mathihey16:42
escotticeroot, weird. if you touch a file and then chmod it does that work16:42
icerootescott: yes thats working fine, also a chmod 777 foobar is working fine but not the tar-command, also utime is failing because tar is unable to modify the time but that can be fixed with -m16:43
CanDostu55slm16:43
cozcant you do   sudo chown -R username  nameof file ?16:43
lukasz__is in GNOME CLASSIC option to search programs (key "win") like in Unity ?16:44
omen__coz thank you vvery much it seems to be installing with no errors16:44
cozomen__,  excellent16:44
xangualukasz__: no16:44
cozlukasz__,  I think you may have to install gnome-search-tool   if I understand correctly16:45
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ert3goHello, my wifi keeps connecting and disconnecting at regular intervals.This has been going on since quite a while.Any solution?16:45
icerootescott: as it seems rwx on others is not enough. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1582827/16:46
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NvveenCan anyone please help me with my Unity problem where my panels aren't appearing16:46
Nvveen?16:46
icerootescott: that is a default debian system and the same on ubuntu, so as it seems i get unix file permissions wrong16:46
escotticeroot, chowning is different16:47
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escotticeroot, if i could chown anything then i could take ownership of a file, change the contents (its mine now) and then give it back16:47
escottchown always has to be initiated by the owner or by root16:47
escotticeroot, in this case though there shouldn't be any chowning going on. tar should create the file with bob as the owner16:48
omen__coz  java -version java version "1.8.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b73) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.0-b14, mixed mode) Thank you again16:48
cozomen__,  no problem16:48
Rienzilla1/w 1316:49
icerootescott: tar --no-same-owner16:49
icerootescott: the users have different uids.... and tar is trying to do a chown for that user with the same name but a different uid16:49
awisepilotHello - I was wondering if anyone on today is familar with troublshooting connecting to a KVM guest.16:49
DoWhileGeekwhen I open a terminal window theres no icon in the taskbar. Is there a fix for this?16:49
objectlogichi16:49
escotticeroot, i thought you said that bob was unpacking an archive with contents that will be owned by bob16:49
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icerootescott: tared with bob uid 1000, untaring with bob uid 100116:50
icerootescott: and tar is trying to change it to uid 1000 because thats stored in the files16:50
escotticeroot, lol... then they aren't both bob16:50
icerootescott: with -no-same-owner tar is using bob 100116:50
escottbut yes that will fail16:50
icerootescott: different systems16:50
objectlogicabhören16:50
awisepilotI built the VM with vmbuilder16:51
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icerootescott: tar on the source - scp - untar16:51
escotticeroot, i suggest you get your uid/usernames aligned to avoid this mess in the future16:51
jribbob uid 0 reporting in16:51
icerootescott: tell that our sysadmins :)16:51
jribiceroot, escott: if you extract as bob though shouldn't he end up as the owner (on the system he is extracting on)?16:52
jribor... are we trying to do something else? :P16:53
objectlogicja16:53
objectlogichallo varnessa16:53
objectlogicxp16:53
ploverIs it ok to repost my problem if no one has responded after a few minutes? I'm not really sure how this all works16:54
icerootjrib: in this case tar is trying to use the permissions from the tar-file and not from the person which is starting the untar-process16:54
objectlogicdas ist gut16:54
icerootjrib: dont know why i thought default would be the user which is executing tar16:54
llutz!de | objectlogic stop random comments please16:54
ubottuobjectlogic stop random comments please: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!16:54
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escottjrib, no he is trying to preserve uid's that don't match across different systems16:55
objectlogicyes16:55
jribescott: I see.  Let me read up16:55
objectlogichello16:55
escotticeroot, who has root on this system?16:55
alimjWir verstehen nur Bahnhof :: We only understand English language16:55
icerootescott: not me16:55
escotticeroot, so some sysadmin just dumped ubuntu on here not thinking to create the users in the same order16:56
MonkeyDustobjectlogic  type /join #ubuntu-de16:56
icerootescott: the target is an old machine not part of the samba-domain16:56
jribiceroot: why do you need to preserve the uid?16:56
icerootjrib: i dont need it16:56
icerootjrib: but as it seems tar is trying to do it as default16:57
objectlogichello yes16:57
escotticeroot, still not an excuse. i would suggest waterboarding as a solution to your current problems or just pull their fingernails off16:57
objectlogichello16:57
llutzobjectlogic: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?16:57
icerootjrib: -no-same-owner is working fine and the new uid is 1001 without that its trying to use 100016:57
escotticeroot, but you have to tell tar to extract as the local uid not the specified uid16:57
icerootescott: yes and i thought that would be the default16:57
NvveenIs there a Unity irc channel?16:57
iceroot!alis | Nvveen16:58
ubottuNvveen: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*16:58
jribiceroot: are you using sudo or something?16:58
icerootjrib: no16:58
mathiI installed vsftpd, it seems that I can connect through SFTP. Now I would like to have root permissions, because I need to change configuration files in /etc/asterisk16:58
icerootjrib: tar mxfvz foo.tgz   executing as uid 1001 and the tgz contains files from uid 100016:58
jribiceroot: --no-same-owner is default unless it's done by superuser16:58
mathianyone ?16:59
rasp_pieHi. I have installed the OS (Ubuntu 12.04) of my NAS on an USB stick. But the stick is quite old and slow and it started to show file system errors. I would like to avoid re-installing the whole Ubuntu with all the configurations I made and instead just copy (dd) the whole stick to a new one. The question here is: This will probably copy the file system errors too, wouldn't it? Is there a...16:59
rasp_pie...way to be sure I have a healthy system after copying it?16:59
alimjmathi: Why don't you use OpenSSH instead? You can change it via shell16:59
llutzmathi: sftp is openssh, not vsftpd (ftps)16:59
icerootjrib: related to the manpage yes16:59
icerootjrib: but without that option its failing, with that options its working16:59
jribiceroot: what's 'm' do?16:59
ploverI am having a very odd problem with the Ubuntu Studio desktop which I'm not even quite sure how to describe. When I boot, a previous session is being restored. However, the desktop is mostly nonfunctional.  No windows have a top title bar, and many of them have their menu bar glued into the desktop taskbar.  So far I haven't even been able to get a terminal window that I can use. I can't get rid of the session by rebooting.16:59
icerootjrib: doesnt modify the utime16:59
alimjlluz: Agree with you...16:59
mathillutz, I have a openssh server on my server, i can access my server with puTTy, now how do I transfer files ?16:59
llutzmathi: use winscp17:00
alimjmathi: Or use FileZilla17:00
Flannelmathi: Use your favorite GUI FTP client, connect via SFTP, using your ssh login/pass.17:00
icerootjrib: its the same as --touch, so its creating the file as it would be greatetd right now and is not using the old mtime from the files from the source17:00
mathiFlannel, that's what I am trying to do, but my user has no root permission ? usually I do "sudo" on putty, but how to have root permissions through my FTP client ?17:01
alimjmathi: Do not forget that you should use root username and pass to be able to upload files to /etc17:01
jribiceroot: I don't know, works ok here (I tar file owned by  userA, then extract as userB with (tar xf file.tar) and userB is the owner. The system you're extracting on is ubuntu?17:01
mathialimj, I use Ubuntu, seems I have no root user17:01
qwhello al help me please: how to disable message update/upgrade from system?17:01
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qwall*17:01
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llutzyou cannot ssh/sftp as root, since the root account is locked17:01
alimjmathi: You can enable root17:01
icerootjrib: 10.0417:01
bashinateubuntu does not have a root user by default17:01
mathialimj, where can I do that ??17:01
Tosthi..ubuntu noob here..how do I create docs in the etc/apt/sources.lidt.d directory using the File System GUI?  When I right-click to create the doc I see it's greyed out17:01
escottalimj, there is no root passwd17:01
alimjmathi: You can enable it but it is dangerous17:01
iceroot!info tar lucid17:02
ubottutar (source: tar): GNU version of the tar archiving utility. In component main, is required. Version 1.22-2ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 335 kB, installed size 2368 kB17:02
alimjmathi: sudo passwd root17:02
llutzand it's a really bad idea to allow root access via ssh/sftp17:02
mathialimj, but I need to to upload files in /etc/asterisk, right ? there is no alternatives17:02
Flannelmathi: You won't.  You'll have your user's permissions.  If you want to do admin things you'll need to set up root to (S)FTP, which isn't entirely a good idea.  Why not just modify the config files from within ssh?17:02
alimjmathi: It is dangerous --- be careful17:02
escottmathi, dont enable the root account. upload the files to your user account, ssh over and then sudo cp them to /etc17:02
alimjmathi: sudo passwd root  ----> enables root account17:02
alimjescott: Agree with you17:02
jribiceroot: well the man page in 10.04 doesn't have the same "(default for ordinary users)" clause that it seems to have now with --no-same-owner.  Maybe behavior was different then.  Is there an issue with just passing --no-same-owner?17:02
escottalimj, please dont tell people in channel how to do that17:02
MonkeyDustmathi  and if you have to ask how to do it, then better don't do it17:03
icerootjrib: i guess i will debug that later, i will reconnect to the system and will have a look what "tar --version" will tell me on that system17:03
icerootjrib: maybe the rebuild tar from another source (non-gnu-version)17:03
BlackCyberчто это17:03
icerootjrib: no there is no issue to use it17:03
fedorhi there, is there in u12.04 any ad blocker PROGRAM (not extension) for browsing?17:03
BlackCyberWho Russian?17:03
icerootjrib: now i know what to do :) but when i first startet it, i did not understand what is wrong with it17:04
fedorI am17:04
escott!ru | BlackCyber17:04
ubottuBlackCyber: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:04
mathiprivet17:04
icerootjrib: on my 12.04 is running with without that option, on 10.04 as it seems tar is different17:04
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jribiceroot: I see17:04
fedorprivet, zdes' nel'zya pisat' malenkie repliki17:04
icerootjrib: so it was not complete my fault :) because i was testing with 12.0417:05
icerootescott: jrib thanks for the support17:05
bak-againlol guise im bak17:05
fedorso the question i asked remains to be answered . Is there any ad-blocking program available for U12-04?17:05
bak-againi <3 mods17:06
bak-againmods are gods17:06
PokemonAcerhey17:06
fedorhey pokemon, what's up17:06
PokemonAcernot mucg17:06
PokemonAcermuch*17:06
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jhutchins_wkfedor: Are you aware of any such programs for other versions of Linux?17:06
alimjfedor: Use no-script plugin for FireFox + Enable play on click in Firefox17:06
PokemonAcerwaiting for iphone to be done, and am installing Ubuntu side-by-side with XP17:07
fedorthe thing is i use chromium and ad-blockers doesn't work there17:07
MonkeyDustfedor  they do here17:07
dandamanhi all, i just bought a new hard drive and i want to take an image of my current hd(which has my ubuntu install on it) to put on the new one. Is there a tool that comes with ubuntu(I'm on 10.04 LTS) or one that you guys can recommend?17:07
xanguafedor: yes they do17:07
fedorfor firefox it's working , but not for chromium :(17:07
ert3goHello,my wifi is having some issues.It connects and disconnects intermittently.Any help?17:07
alimjfedor: You can activate "Play on click" in Chromium17:07
PokemonAcerhey, does anyone know (OTHER THAN NDISWRAPPER) anything that will let me use a Wifi device made for windows, work with ubuntu? I dont have ethernet17:07
alimjfedor: That will kill Flash ads17:08
kunji...gnome-system-monitor is leaking memory, so is a conky script (because the writer does not understand Cairo), and maybe Xorg is leaking as well, and maybe flash but then again it just bloats whether it's leaking or not, so it's hard to tell.  The script I've fixed before, just need to dig out my fixed version and I guess I should get in touch with the original writer so the one on gnome-look can be fixed.  I guess I'm wondering if anyone 17:08
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fedoralimj: nah, i want the same functionality as in windows chrome17:08
kunjijrib: Thanks again for the help last time with stopping that screen saver, it's been working great since.  ^_^17:09
jribkunji: cool17:09
fedoras far as i understand it, there are some issues for chromium, and they are incorrigible17:09
escottfedor, there are some iptables based blacklists which would certainly block ads in chrome17:09
alimjFedor: Then why don't you install Google Chrome from Google's official repositories?17:09
fedor<alimj> i can do that?17:09
alimjFedor: I already have both Google Chrome and Chromium17:10
fedorthat's most revealing to me so far :)17:10
dandamanbueller? anyone? bueller?17:10
alimjfedor: They will have their independent history + bookmark + .... (unless you sync)17:10
fedorso i can uninstall ugly chromium, hooray17:10
alimjfedor: Keep it. It is useful...17:11
fedoralimj, i cannot see why will it be useful17:11
HowdyDoodyI am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"17:11
MonkeyDustfedor  sudo apt-get purge chromium-browser17:11
andrew_Hi there, i have a usb DAC which isn't getting recognized as a digital out device (just analog stereo).  Any ideas how I can debug this?17:12
alimjfedor: I use it since I do website programming. I need one browser in logged in mode and one in anonymous mode17:12
MudboyDoes anyone know if a recent apache update changed the say the FollowSymLinks works?17:12
jribHowdyDoody: sudo usually sanitizes the environment (see "man sudo")17:12
fedoralimj, still i cannot understand your point. If you have chrom installed what impedes you to use chrome's anonymous state?17:13
escottHowdyDoody, you may have some crazy interactions between gksudo and env. try putting the env after the gksudo17:13
kunjifedor: that he can't be be the user and an anonymous entity at the same time in the web app17:14
alimjfedor: I develop websites. WHile developing websites, you should log on to that site in admin mode. In the meantime, it is necessary to see the changes from others perspective.17:14
escottdandaman, you can just sudo cat /dev/sda | tee /dev/sdb &>/dev/null17:14
escottdandaman, alternately look at dd or ddrescue17:15
fedori see now your point17:15
dandamanescott: that simple eh?17:15
alimjandrew: What is your DAC? Blackmagic-design? Avid?17:15
qhartmanescott, what's the point of the tee in that command, seems extraneous.17:15
escottdandaman, i would always just reinstall, but if the disks are appropriately similar17:15
escottqhartman, what other way would work?17:15
dandamanescott: they arent, but i have settings that i want to preserve17:16
dr_willisqhartman:  sudo rights dont apply to redirection without the tee17:16
zykotick9qhartman: sudo doesn't pass through redirects17:16
qhartmanah, there ya go17:16
HowdyDoodyescott: I thought I had tried that at least 3 different time.  Why not a 4th.   Wierd:  4th times a charm.   It works.   Not the way the examples shows, but I'm good to use it now.  THanks!17:16
andrew_How can I force pulseaudio to use IEC958 out for a device?  It's not showing up in sound settings, but does with aplay -L17:16
dandamangoing from a 5200 rpm 60gb hard drive from like 7 years ago to a 128gb 6gb/s solid state drive17:17
dandamanso stoked17:17
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escottdandaman, i realize i did leave off a second sudo on the tee command17:19
dandamanim jut gonna use clonezilla17:19
escottdandaman, do NOT use clonezilla17:19
dandamanorly?17:19
dr_willisescott:  i thought it looked weird17:19
escottdandaman, its an awful idea to be doign that17:19
kunjiHmm, maybe I should file a bug report?  gnome-system-monitor's RAM usage ballooned to 2.1 GB in 6 days.  Does anyone know what would be an expected amount for Xorg to use on a standard Unity install?  Mine at 1.9 GB right now.17:19
escottdandaman, you are going to mark the entire disk as dirty in the SSD firmware17:19
escottdandaman, and then have to trim it all out again17:19
jhutchins_wkescott: What's wrong with clonezilla?17:19
atlefsorry17:20
escottjhutchins_wk, nothing wrong with clonezilla. just low level copy in general to an SSD. i didnt realize dandaman was using an SSD17:20
Nasserhi17:20
dandamanescott: so plug in the ssd, boot up, then type in sudo cat /dev/sd<original HD ID> | sudo tee /dev/sd<new HD ID> &>/dev/null17:20
dandamanthen set my bios to default to the ssd as the boot device?17:21
dr_williskunji:  xorg itself is using 8% of my 512mb here.. but this is on a raspberry pi. ;)17:21
escottdandaman, you are better off partitioning and then copying files with a command like "sudo cp -aRx / /media/ssd_disk17:21
jhutchins_wkdandaman: You're not booting to the original device are you?17:21
escottdandaman, i would not do that either17:21
dandamanjhutchins_wk: i am17:21
escottdandaman, i would not do any low level copy to the SSD17:21
jhutchins_wkdandaman: Not a good idea.17:21
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jhutchins_wkdandaman: You need to boot to a different medium - livd CD or USB.17:22
dandamanok, i can handle that17:22
dandamanbrb real quick17:22
jhutchins_wkdandaman: THat will also avoid trying to copy pseudo filesystems like /dev and /proc17:22
kunjidr_willis: Hmm, yeah, I've got a pi, they're nice, mine isn't connected at the moment though.  Right, I'm thinking almost 2 Gigs is too much, but I'm not sure if other things run under that and are included or if that number is just Xorg itself.  I'm thinking it's leaking, maybe I'll leave it another day and check again.17:23
dr_williskunji:  all through beta for 12.10 i had issues where xorg or compiz or somthing would go crazy and lagg the whole system. id restart the X server it would be great for a while... then it would happen again. but i never saw it using lots of ram.. just lots of cpu. ;)17:24
kunjijhutchins_wk: What's he trying to move?17:24
jhutchins_wkescott: A filesystem is a filesystem, but I certainly wouldn't use cat.  Partclone or dd should be fine.17:25
MichaelPWhat is nomodeset command in kernel of boot menu.. for radeon ?17:25
escottdandaman, boot the livecd. partition the new disk.  mount the old disk to /media/old_disk and the new ssd to /media/new_disk then sudo cp -aR /media/old_disk /media/new_disk. then chroot in and reinstall grub17:25
jhutchins_wkkunji: I think he's moving a debian install to a new disk.17:25
kunjidr_willis: Hmm, I do see a fair amount of cpu at times, but with 4 cores it doesn't seem to slow things down too badly and goes away after a while.17:25
dr_willisMichaelP:  nomodeset works for all the gpus.17:25
escottjhutchins_wk, there is no difference between dd and cat. and a filesystem is a filesystem, but an SSD disk is not a normal hard disk17:25
jhutchins_wkescott: I wouldn't use cp either, I'd use rsync.  Much more robust.17:25
dandamana lot of opinions here :( what do i dew?17:26
MichaelPdr_willis, i know but different distro's do it different17:26
jhutchins_wkescott: An ssd presents itself as the same kind of device as a regular disk.  The differences are not exposed to the OS.17:26
dr_willis!nomodeset17:26
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:26
kunjijhutchins_wk: Hmm, I think my preferred tool would be ddrescue then, does just copying the files work out for that?  If so, then rsync is the tool for the job after formatting with say gparted.17:26
escottjhutchins_wk, he is going to mark all the sectors dirty17:27
jhutchins_wkdandaman: I would probably go with a file-level tool like rsync.17:27
escottjhutchins_wk, he also probably has an ext2 or ext3 partition that could be moved up to ext4 with extents17:27
dandamanmy original hd is an ext417:27
jhutchins_wkdandaman: If the partitions are going to be identical, then using clonezilla is a good idea - it gives you the live CD and it doesn't waste time copying blank space.17:27
escottdandaman, you will degrade the performance of you SSD by doing a low level copy to the disk17:27
Nasserany suggestions for live widgets pals?17:28
alimjdandaman: I second escott...17:28
dandamanok, so i need to rsync the files17:28
jhutchins_wkI would not recommend using ext4 unless you have a specific need for it.17:28
dandamangot it17:28
dandamanjhutchins_wk: what should i make my new ssd then?17:28
dandamanext3?17:28
alimjdandaman: Please do not forget to set the boot partition active...17:28
dandamanalimj: how do i do that?17:29
jhutchins_wkdandaman: rsync -av /input /output - no need for compression (z) since you're not going through any transport.17:29
jhutchins_wkdandaman: Yeah, I'd use ext3.17:29
alimjdandaman: With fdisk or gparted17:29
alimjdandaman: ext3 should be OK. You will not require too much journaling....17:29
dandamangod damn i dont know how to reinstall grub either :(17:30
atlef!grub17:30
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:30
kunjiHmm, what's with the bias against ext4?17:30
escottdandaman, you will want the following mount options for an SSD noatime,nodiratime,discard17:30
alimjkunji: He is using SSD not HDD17:30
escottalimj, you can use ext4 without journaling17:31
alimjescott: I also love backward compatibility :P17:31
kunjialimj: Right, mind explaining though?  Or citing?  You can even use HDD without journaling, is your point just that because the writes are fast that you shouldn't bother with journaling?17:32
jhutchins_wkWhy would you not use journaling on a modern system?17:32
escottkunji, the idea is that it amplifies the number of writes17:32
alimjkunji: Writing too much information to SSDs will age them. There is a limit for that.17:32
jhutchins_wkescott: Actually, the opposite is true, journalling reduces writes.17:33
dr_willisi still have to wonder at how long the lifespan of these sdds are....17:33
escottjhutchins_wk, i didnt say i agreed with it17:33
escottdandaman, welcome to the world of cutting edge technology. a lot of these decisions will depend on how long you expect your SSD to last17:33
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jhutchins_wkalimj: That situation has changed drastically in the last few years, current ssds are much less susceptible to degradation.17:34
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escottdandaman, i view SSD as a rather disposable product... if it lasts for 2 years then ill be 2 years closer to being able to buy a robust and well functioning SSD17:34
dandamanescott: :(17:34
kunjiI would expect that their lifetimes are not all that different from HDDs.17:34
alimjjhutchins_wk: Almost agree with you...17:34
dr_willisevery thing is disosable these days...17:34
kunjiescott: I've already had one last 2 years17:34
dandamankunji: shorter but more predictable17:34
jhutchins_wkdandaman: I would treat it like a normal disk.  Make sure you have good backups; if you're interested in optimizing it research the actual hardware you have - don't go by advice on devices that came out two or three years ago.17:35
alimjdandaman: You should not be too much worried. Just partition the SSD similar to HDD, then format using ext3. finally use rsync or cp to copy files & update grub17:35
escottdandaman, i think you will find general agreement on (a) not doing a low level copy (b) setting noatime,nodiratime,discard beyond that to things like journaling vs other filesystems... i dont know17:35
dandamanalimj: how do i update grub?17:36
escott!grub | dandaman17:36
ubottudandaman: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:36
dandaman2nd link right?17:36
escottdandaman, follow the chroot set of instructions (you will already have the disk mounted in the livecd)17:36
kunjidandaman: yeah17:36
jhutchins_wkdanhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub17:36
alimjdandaman: It is very important to do it with a liveCD/DVD or USB17:37
dandamanescott: which set of instr?17:37
dandamanalimj: will do17:37
escottdandaman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot ignore the bit about mdadm17:37
escottdandaman, you will also have to fix up the /etc/fstab because its a new partition with new UUIDs17:37
kunjialimj: Why would that be important?17:37
dandamanall useful info17:38
dandamanty17:38
alimjkunji: It is already explained that we want to avoid pseudo files17:38
escottkunji, cannot get a clean snapshot read of a running filesystem. less important since he is not doing a low level copy17:38
escottalimj, those can be avoided with cp -aRx17:38
kunjialimj: Sorry, I thought you were referring to the Grub part17:38
escottdandaman, the livecd is somewhat optional but i would do it anyways17:39
alimjescott: yes, but if he has /home (or /dev) on another partition17:39
escottalimj, which would not be traversed by "-x"17:39
riegersni have xchat entry in my ubuntu messaging indicator menu, i've uninstalled xchat-indicator, but its still in the list. how can I remove it?17:40
alimjescott: I agree but it would be more clear to do it with a live Boot medium. /sda1 -> /sdb1 - /sda2 -> /sdb2 ....17:40
dandamanwell once my ssd arrives in the mail later tonight ill be on here begging for help when everything goes to shit17:40
phrozen-plHello17:41
alimjescott: Should we mention fstab or not?17:41
escottalimj, dandaman does have to adjust the fstab but i mentioned it already17:42
trismriegersn: is this 12.10?17:42
alimjescott: OK17:42
riegersntrism, yes17:42
kunjiriegersn: Hmm, did you uninstall it with sudo apt-get remove <package> or sudo apt-get purge <package>?  If it was the first, then you might try doing the second instead, if that doesn't work then you'll need to find where that menu is configured and change it by hand, unfortunately I don't know where that is...17:42
DarkSimI killed grub on 12.04 help17:42
riegersnkunji, i did purge actually17:42
phrozen-plI have a question about apache + mod_fcgid for python. I have a configuration similar for centos but still having an error premature end of scripts django.fcgi. I installed flup and etc packages but in centos I had to set enforce 0 for selinux which  made a problems.... but in ubuntu I have a problem all the time ...17:43
trismriegersn: ahh, in 12.10, an item won't be removed from the messaging menu until an up unregisters it or the .desktop file disappears...in this case xchat-indicator only ships the shared lib so when you remove it, I imagine it used the xchat .desktop file17:43
trismriegersn: might try removing/reinstalling xchat17:43
kunjitrism: what do you mean by an "up"?17:44
trismkunji: meant app sorry17:44
root__fg17:44
DarkSimI only get grub rescue17:44
Tr3v0rlj17:44
riegersntrism, that worked. thanks!17:45
escottDarkSim, boot the livecd. download and run the bootinfoscript from sourceforge. paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com17:45
DarkSimescott: paste.ubuntu.com/1583045/17:50
designbybeck__when using nano, I got a lil' edit happy editing a long css file. There isn't a way to "roll back" undo? revert back to? by chance?17:50
escottDarkSim, there is no partition 7. Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector17:51
escott    1 of the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and17:51
escott    looks in partition 7 for /boot/burg.17:51
designbybeck__DarkSim: when pasting in weblinks please put in the http:// so that it is easier to click on a link and launch it17:51
DarkSimSorry...typed by hand17:51
designbybeck__gotcha17:51
escottDarkSim, typed what by hand?17:51
DarkSimThe link17:52
escottDarkSim, ok the URL.17:52
escottDarkSim, in any case you need to reinstall grub. its not correct its looking at the wrong partition number17:52
escott!grub | DarkSim17:52
ubottuDarkSim: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)17:52
wjtaylor_What's the best software for automatically fixing mp3 metadata?17:52
Niteshhi17:54
DarkSimBah...I'll just wipe the OS all together17:54
DarkSimBrb17:54
Niteshany girl there ?17:54
atlefwjtaylor, EasyTAG is one17:54
hrundi_bakshihi nitesh17:54
josesierragnome-shell process is chewing up ram like crazy.  It's up to 221.6mb.  If I pull up Chrome (another memory hog) it chews up 80% of my available ram.  Is this normal...?17:54
hrundi_bakshihi Nitesh17:54
Niteshkahase ho tum ?17:55
heywoodtrying to monitor a process that occasionally runs away and pegs the CPU. am i better off running a watchdog script with a while / sleep loop in the background, or making it a one-off and running it from cron?17:55
hrundi_bakshitry #bakchodi Nitesh17:56
milindI have two VM's running ssh in the same host, I want to be able to ssh between the VM's. I am currently running NAT on both but cant seem to ssh, do I need a bridged connection or internal network connection to achieve this? I am using Virtual Box btw17:56
hrundi_bakshihi milind17:56
escottheywood, there are watchdog functionalities in the kernel. you can throttle the process or kill it if it gets away17:57
dr_willismilind:  what vm are you using?17:57
escottmilind, a NAT will be opaque to computers on the WAN side of the NAT17:57
Niteshtumako kya hua ?17:57
dr_willismilind:  ahh vbox. - it has settings for networking that put them all on the same ip as the local lan17:57
kunjimilind: I think it depends what sort of connection is set up for them in the VM, i.e. is it already bridged etc...17:57
hrundi_bakshikuch nahi Nitesh but try #bakchodi for all harami's17:58
dr_willismilind:  if your host is 192.168.1.100  the vbox machines can have an ip of 192.168.1.101 and so forth. if you set it right17:58
Niteshhi....17:58
heywoodescott: what i want to do is kill and restart (via sudo, BTW) when the CPU load exceeds some threshold. is there a kernel watchdog that can do that?17:58
dr_willismilind:  theres like 3 options for networking.  one does it this way where they all appear on the lan.17:58
JuJuBeeI just installed ubuntu 12.10 from USB to an HP Compaq 8300 and it won't boot from the HD.  Same installer on another HP COmpaq 8300 worked fine.  Suggestions?17:58
Niteshtumara naam kya he ?17:59
keelGjosesierra: I use the unity shell, however 220mb doesn't sound too crazy - and I don't know what your total amount of memory is. But my ff quickly takes up a few 100mbs as well :)17:59
jhutchins_wkJuJuBee: What happens when you try to boot?17:59
escottheywood, try cpulimit17:59
hrundi_bakshiNitesh see pvt message17:59
heywoodJuJuBee: can you boot from a liveCD (or the USB), mount the HD, and verify that the install is actually there on the HD?18:00
Niteshhaa..18:00
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JuJuBeeheywood: let me check...18:01
JuJuBeeheywood: seems to be all there18:02
ioriai run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed gnome also) and  i cannot open file url in gnome- terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please18:02
heywoodescott: looking at manpage now. says it handles runaway processes by "by sending it SIGSTOP and SIGCONT signals". is that equivalent to killall -HUP followed by a restart?18:03
JuJuBeejhutchins_wk: I also have an  ltsp server running so the machine seems to skip the HD and go to PXE boot.  I checked the bios and have the hd before netboot and even tried using boot menu to select Sata 0.  I get no errors, just goes to PXE18:03
escottheywood, no18:03
escottheywood, thats like ctrl-z; fg in the shell18:03
escottheywood, but you might be able to get it to send a different signal18:04
heywoodJuJuBee: try booting and getting to the BIOS config, before grub (pre-boot kernel selector) comes up. usually it's something like holding F1 down during boot.18:04
heywoodJuJuBee: in there, look for a menu that specifies boot order. check that order to make sure it's sane.18:05
JuJuBeeheywood: already looked at boot menu18:05
JuJuBeefine18:05
heywoodescott: ok, i'll have to apt-get the source for it and hack away at that. thanks for the pointer.18:05
heywoodJuJuBee: ok, so if the boot menu is sane, what happens when you remove the USB install stick and reboot?18:05
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JuJuBeeheywood: it ends up booting to PXE18:06
ikoniaJuJuBee: you will find grub installed to the usb, rather than the hard disk18:06
JuJuBeeLike it cannot find a bootable HS18:06
ikoniaJuJuBee: that is the most common reason for the situation you are in18:06
JuJuBeeikonia: Ah, let me check that  possibility  I forgot that was an issue18:07
ikonia /dev/sda will be your usb disk and I'd bet grub went to that disk18:07
morfeo_81hi there18:10
dspohnhey18:10
morfeo_81Is it possibile to install python notebook n ubuntu 11.04...?If no How can Upgrade to 12 without loss data?18:11
ioriai run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx18:12
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JuJuBeeikonia: what is best way to fix grub?18:13
jhutchins_wkJuJuBee: Sounds like grub got installed to the partition instead of the MBR.18:13
zero_coderhey, is there any way to check who is using more data in wifi network?18:13
jhutchins_wkJuJuBee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub18:13
hillaryi have problem with updating in  ubuntu 12.0418:15
jhutchins_wkzero_coder: I think the only way to do that would be through the capabilities of the wireless router, and most home gear wouldn't be able to.18:15
zero_coder:P18:15
zero_coderis there any way to monitor ?18:16
Niteshhi....i am nitesh 2118:16
hillary i have problem with updating in  ubuntu 12.04  any help?18:16
newbie_to_ubuntuI have a question about the linker in gcc ... which chat room should I go to in order to get some help with a tough linker problem18:16
pleadHas anyone noticed no black people use Ubuntu?18:18
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hillaryplead: am black kenyan and am using18:19
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pleadhillary: really?18:20
hillaryplead: yes!!!18:20
pleadcool18:20
pleadWhy do you use Ubuntu?18:20
craigbass1976Someone mentioned talika here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366088&highlight=ungroup  But I don't see anything in the repos when searching.18:20
Mitesh123hi18:21
Mitesh123is there any girl18:21
hillaryplead:have posted a problem please help18:21
dspohnlol @ Mitesh12318:21
hillaryPlead: ubuntu is ultimate to me unlike...18:22
dspohnwhat are you trying Hillary?18:22
kunjiplead: Hmm, interesting you should mention that, maybe it's just something in the U.S. most of the black people I know personally tend to use Xubuntu, but I'm sure there are many that use the standard variant.18:22
hillarydspohn: to updte available updates18:23
pleadkunji: okay18:23
pleadlol18:23
kunjiJuJuBee: There are various ways to fix grub, which one is best would depend on the situation.18:23
JuJuBeekunji:  just used the boot-repair app18:24
JuJuBeeSeems to have fixed fine18:24
hillarydspohn: my system shows available updates but when i run i get an error"http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583104/"18:24
kunjiJuJuBee: sounds good to me ^_^18:25
iceroothillary: please paste the output of "cat /etc/environment" to pastebin18:26
zykotick9hillary: /opt/mono... eh.18:27
iceroot!paste | hillary18:27
ubottuhillary: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.18:27
jhutchins_wkiceroot: That seems a little redundant since her error is in a pastebin already.18:27
ioriai run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx18:28
hillaryzykotick9: yap that is the thing help18:28
icerootjhutchins_wk: and can you tell me what is in line 2 of /etc/environment which is causing the error?18:28
zykotick9hillary: anything installed in /opt is a non-ubuntu package.  and mono is a cancer.  good luck.  don't reply to me further.18:28
kunjiiceroot: I think he meant the part about informing how to pastebin, was maybe a bit pedantic.18:28
icerootkunji: ah ok18:29
hillaryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1583137/18:29
iceroothillary: that is not what i was asking for18:29
iceroothillary: please paste the output of "cat /etc/environment" to pastebin18:29
jhutchins_wkhillary: It looks like the configuration script for the mono package didn't suceed, and that's causing the apt system to hang.  I think I would try removing mono, possibly just using dpkg instead of one of the wrappers, then do aptitude -f install to see if it recovers.18:30
zykotick9jhutchins_wk: i highly doubt a "package" installed to /opt18:30
icerootjhutchins_wk: its not a package-problem18:30
icerootjhutchins_wk: its a problem in /etc/environment18:31
ddosantoshello, first time around18:31
hillaryiceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583152/18:31
icerootjhutchins_wk: there is some mono config and the package which dpkg is trying to configure is parsing /etc/environment18:31
ddosantosif I may...is this the correct place to ask doubts?18:31
DarkSimWhen installing Ubuntu I choose logical type of partition, right?18:31
jhutchins_wkiceroot: I shall entrust hillary to your superior knowledge of mono - thanks.18:31
iceroothillary: gksudo gedit /etc/environment    and then remove the line with :/opt/mono-2.11/bin18:32
kunjiddosantos: I don't know, what do you mean by doubts?18:32
jhutchins_wkddosantos: This is a place to ask questions regarding ubuntu support.18:32
icerootjhutchins_wk:  its knowlegde of "she executed a PATH command wrong or edited /etc/environment" by hand. its nothing mono specific18:32
ddosantoswell, I was trying to mount an external HD so I can share it with samba18:32
ddosantosI edited /etc/fstab but it does not mount where I told it18:33
kunjiDarkSim: Doesn't have to be logical, but I would typically.18:33
iceroothillary: just remove the line, save the file and everything should be fine18:33
DarkSimI keep forgetting the settings :P18:33
TostI'm trying to use this command to create a file and add contents to it > "echo "The text you want added to a new file" >> the_file_name" but I keep getting 'permission denied' and I don't know why.  Any advice you can offer a linux noob?18:33
hillaryiceroot: i have removed18:33
kunjiddosantos: Does it mount someplace else?18:33
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Paste the fstab to  http://paste.ubuntu.com18:33
ddosantosyeah, it actually does18:33
DarkSimLogical, beginning of space and / mount18:33
ddosantospaste.ubuntu.com, got it18:34
iceroothillary: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       the upgrade should be working now18:34
jhutchins_wkDarkSim: Usually you only need a logical partition if you go beyond four partitions.18:34
jhutchins_wkDarkSim In which case you go three physical, one extended, and the rest logical (which are within the extended).18:35
ddosantosyou can have a look at it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583169/18:35
escottTost, who owns "the_file_name"18:35
kunjiDarkSim: Logical is the type of partition, there are two kinds, Logical and Physical.  You get 4 physical ones (unless using GPT), if you need more partitions than that, then you have to use logical ones.18:35
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Does /media/externo exist?18:36
ddosantosyes it does18:36
ddosantosI also set the permisions to 777 just in case18:36
kunjiDarkSim: That type being different from the other field that is often called type (the filesystem type), which is what sort of thing the partition will be used for, aka filesystem type, like swap, ext4, etc..18:36
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Where does the device mount instead?18:36
iceroothillary: working?18:37
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Guest85069novo por aki18:37
Tostescott, I'm not sure what you mean but I'm just trying to create a file and name it..18:37
jhutchins_wk!es | Guest8506918:37
ubottuGuest85069: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:37
kunjiddosantos: Have you rebooted?  Or are you testing with the mount command?  Is the drive still listed in mtab?18:38
escottTost, if the file already exists someone else may own it and you might not be able to write to it. if its not your directory you might not be able to create files18:38
zykotick9Tost: fyi (not directly related to your permission issue but) > is redirect to file, while >> is append to file.18:38
escott!permissions | Tost18:38
ubottuTost: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions18:38
ddosantosyes I tried a reboot a while ago18:38
ddosantosI am not using the mount command as it mounts itself alone18:39
ddosantoswhen switched on18:39
hillaryIceroot: a minute i will let you know.18:39
zykotick9Tost: fyi#2 and easy way to create a file is "touch filename"18:39
kunjiddosantos: Just checking, because sometimes people test after making the change in fstab by using mount -a I think it is to mount everything listed in the fstab.18:40
jhutchins_wkddosantos: You do not have the auto command in fstab, therefore it will not mount at boot as a part of the normal filesystem.  It is probably being mounted by udev/fuse.  You should doublecheck the UUID.18:40
lolcatWhat is the ubuntu repo for chrome, and how do I add it? My browers is stone dead18:40
ddosantoswhat do you mean with doublecheck? do you there might be any typo¿18:40
ddosantosdo you think*18:40
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Yes, it's possible.18:40
Tostthank you for the replies! ubottu, I will check the site..also, why can't I create files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory within the file system GUI?18:40
icerootTost: because the directory belongs to root18:41
jhutchins_wkddosantos: mount -a or mount /media/externo should mount it properly.18:41
zykotick9Tost: anything outside of /home and /tmp are going to require elevated (ie root) permission probably.18:41
icerootTost: and you are not root, so you are not allowed to write in that directory18:41
ioriai run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx18:41
Tosticeroot, is there a way I can override it or something to be able to use the GUI to create files in there?18:41
PhonequerHow to read dependencies of a package?18:41
ddosantosshould I umount /media/Iomega\ HDD before?18:42
kunjijhutchins_wk: Hmm?  What is this auto command?18:42
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Actually, my mistake, the drive should mount at boot.18:42
ddosantosyes, I saw a message at boot18:42
zykotick9Phonequer: "apt-cache depends foo" or "apt-cache rdepends foo" for the reverse version18:42
ddosantosI hit S to ommit18:42
jhutchins_wkkunji: Different systems don't default to auto.  Ubuntu defaults and uses noauto for override.18:42
ddosantosbecause the hard drive was off at that moment18:42
ddosantosthen when switched on I hoped it would mount at /media/externo18:43
ddosantosbut it didn't18:43
kunjijhutchins_wk: ah, I see, I'll need to keep that in mind.18:43
Phonequerzykotick9: thanks18:43
icerootTost: why you need to put files in that directory?18:43
josesierrakeelG: total amount of memory is only 3GB (max 4GB, it's an older system, lol).  But if you're telling me that kind of mem usage is normal, I'll definitely take your word for it!  Thank you (again!!!)18:43
icerootTost: normally you will manage your repos using the software-center18:43
kunjiddosantos: Hmm, check again that the UUID is right, that the drive is NTFS, and that /media/externo exists with the correct permissions.  I'm not sure what else to look at, I've never actually had a problem with fstab.18:44
icerootjosesierra: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/18:44
Grandpa_smasherim haveing wifi problems AR9485 aetheros, cant resolve servers 1/2 the time... is this driver or dns issue that can be fixed?18:44
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ddosantoskunji: ok, thanks, I will18:45
hillaryiceroot: the result of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade18:45
hillary"is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583192/18:45
kunjiGrandpa_smasher: Could be either I suppose, have you tried using other dns servers yet?18:45
Grandpa_smasherhave not18:45
Angelaciao18:45
ddosantosthe output of fdisk -l tells me that that the device is in /dev/sdf118:45
ddosantosand blkid of /dev/sdf1 is the one I posted18:46
iceroothillary: everything fine and your system is updated successfully with the latest security fixes18:46
ddosantos/dev/sdf1: LABEL="Iomega HDD" UUID="D27431CF7431B6D7" TYPE="ntfs"18:47
kunjiddosantos: Oh, hmm, actually are there supposed to be quotes around the UUID?  I think it's not supposed to.18:47
Grandpa_smasherkunji, how do i go about changing dns?18:47
hillaryiceroot: yes yes yes. I have confirmed!!!!! Thank you so much(Asante Sana)18:47
Tosticeroot, I'm trying to install OpenNMS on this ubuntu box and it's a requirement..see here Configure APT- "Adding a Repository" section  http://www.opennms.org/wiki/Installation:Debian18:47
iceroothillary: you are welcome18:47
ddosantosaren't they? The other partition with ntfs is being correctly mounted at /media/partiwin18:47
kunjiddosantos: In mine I do not have quotes around them, and you don't for your first 2 partitions.18:48
icerootTost: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list18:48
icerootTost: edit that file with the repos you need18:48
icerootTost: no need to create files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/18:48
Tosticeroot, ok, i was just following the directions but I'll do what you say..18:48
icerootTost: and please remeber, such repos are not supported here, we only support installations with official ubuntu repos18:48
ddosantoskunji: I will try without them, but it makes me doubt as the sda1 is being mounted at /media/partiwin as expected, and that line does have quotes18:49
kunjiddosantos: Also I have no - in utf-8, I have utf8.  Maybe the parser is breaking on that right before the last drive?  Try changing those 2 things and give it a go18:49
icerootTost: and dont!!!! put in the squeeze parts18:49
icerootTost: at "installing the jdk"18:49
icerootTost: never put debian repos inside ubuntu18:49
Tosticeroot; forgive my ignoerance but what's a repo? and where would I go for help with such repos?18:49
iceroot!repo | Tost18:49
ubottuTost: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories18:49
Tex_Nick!dns | Grandpa_smasher18:50
ubottuGrandpa_smasher: To set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/dns.html18:50
kunjiddosantos: hmm, also the utf part is lowercase in mine, I'll post what mine looks like real quick for you.18:50
ddosantoskunji: thank you for the help, that could be, but then why would the first partition be correctly mounted?18:50
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Quotes don't matter, I have both formats and it works either way.18:50
icerootTost: something like that is supported nowhere18:50
icerootTost:  deb http://debian.opennms.org stable main18:51
iceroot deb-src http://debian.opennms.org stable main18:51
kunjiddosantos: If the parser is breaking on the utf portion it will already have the right info for the UUID and mount point of the 1st one and mount it fine, it just may not have the correct locale18:51
icerootTost: that are the only two lines which should be added to that file (still not supported) there other lines with squeeze and so on will break your system 100%18:51
kunjiddosantos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583223/18:52
zykotick9iceroot: i'd think testing or unstable would be a lot closer to any currently supported ubuntu version then squeeze (10.04 based).  Tost18:52
JuJuBeeikonia: SO I used the stick to reinstall on another computer and on boot it set the internal HD to sda and the usb stick to sdb.  So grub was set to the correct location.  Rebooted and got grub rescue18:52
kunjiddosantos: It's worth a shot, can't hurt to try it18:52
icerootzykotick9: i bet it will still break the system18:52
zykotick9iceroot: agreed!18:52
kunjiTex_Nick: Thanks for helping Grandpa_smasher, I was preoccupied18:53
icerootzykotick9: multiarch, systemd, udev, dbus, libc6 dependency-issues and so on18:53
ddosantoskunji: sure, I will do that. Can you please tell me if all your three mounted devices are external or internal?18:53
icerootzykotick9: all the nice thinks which will happen by mixing repos :)18:53
ddosantosthat could have something to do18:53
zykotick9iceroot: ;)18:53
kunjiddosantos: internal, but it shouldn't matter.18:53
Tex_Nickkunji : np ... good to see you :-)18:53
ddosantosas in my case, one of them is internal (the one which mounts ok) and the other one external18:53
icerootzykotick9: but without sid there is no real fun .)18:54
ddosantosanyway I am going to remove the - and let's see18:54
zykotick9iceroot: 'cause when it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces ;)18:54
kunjiddosantos: Hmm, you think it might be some sort of usb issue?  It's possible, I did have one drive in the past that didn't work because it wasn't getting enough power right at boot.18:54
icerootzykotick9: :)18:55
Grandpa_smasherno problem kunji getting bind9 now18:55
ddosantoswhat I was thinking is that maybe it tried to mount it at boot, but it couldn't, then failed with the system running18:55
kunjiTex_Nick: I got that screen thing resolved eventually with jrib's help, I posted it here for someone that was having the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074264&page=2  turns out Flash had nothing to do with it.18:56
icerootzykotick9: for a real dependency fight you need a newer libc6. everything else is boring and can be fixed with alot of effort18:56
icerootzykotick9: but libc6 errors....18:56
jhutchins_wkddosantos: ntfs-3g is correct according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions18:57
Grandpa_smashergod bind9 no is too complicated 4 me18:57
Tex_Nickkunji : great to hear that ... jrib is good ... & thanks for the link, i'll make a note of it for future reference :-)\18:57
ddosantosjhutchins_wk: yes, locale=es_ES.UTF-8 should also be18:58
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Oh, I see, he was talking about utf8.  See the system generated entries without the -18:58
orudieHi. How can I burn .iso to a usb disk ?18:58
lazer!usb18:59
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:59
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Those are codepages though, not localles.18:59
kunjiGrandpa_smasher: Umm, sorry, wait up, bind9?  Isn't that overkill?  Maybe that wasn't the right link to be looking at.18:59
jhutchins_wkddosantos: So does partwin mount correctly?18:59
ddosantosjhutchins_wk: actually it does19:00
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jhutchins_wkddosantos: Then the format of the fstab entry is correct and should work for either one.19:01
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jhutchins_wkddosantos: What happens when you try mount /media/externo?19:01
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ddosantosmay fstab be in conflict with some other file that makes the drive mount on its own?19:01
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Not quite the way it works.19:02
orudieno, I want to burn an iso in ubuntu19:02
Guest1649hi19:02
jhutchins_wkddosantos: If your fstab entry is broken, other mechanisms will mount the drive.19:02
orudieI already have ubuntu 12.04 installed. I downloaded an .iso file and now I need to burn it to a USB (not as data). Any help ?19:02
kunjiGrandpa_smasher: Open up the network manager and pick the connection you're using, click edit, go to IPv4 (or 6 if you're using it already) and you should see a field for entering additional DNS servers.19:02
jhutchins_wkorudie: The instructions for installing from a usb drive will tell you how to "burn" it.19:03
Grandpa_smasherya its blank, what should i enter19:03
qhartmanorudie, the easiest way would be to mount the iso and then just copy them like you would any other files19:03
ddosantosum, that's weird19:03
Guest1649use untebootin19:03
Kroachdoes zenity --list --checklist/--radiolist have an item limit?19:03
ddosantosit actually mounts the drive typing mount /media/externo19:03
jhutchins_wkqhartman: That won't create a bootable drive.19:03
zykotick9qhartman: if it's a bootable iso, i highly doubt your method would work.19:03
Grandpa_smashersudo apt-get install unetbootin19:04
Guest1649will some body tell what is full form of GRUB19:04
ddosantosthanks you all for your time19:04
Grandpa_smasherGuest1649,  full form?19:04
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Then it _shoud_ automount if you connect it after boot, but because the iomega has replaceable cartridges it might not.19:04
qhartmanjhutchins_wk, zykotick9 - he never said that's what he needed to do, just that he had an iso and that he wanted to "burn" to usb.19:04
kunjiGrandpa_smasher: Well, whatever other dns server you want to use OpenDNS maintains several, but you would need to look them up, I don't remember them.  Google maintains an easy one to remember 8.8.8.819:04
ddosantosyes, it automounts, but in another path19:05
jhutchins_wkddosantos: I think the next thing to check is seeing if it mounts properly if it's powered up at boot.19:05
Grandpa_smasherty kunji ill try the google one19:05
ddosantosthat was my idea, yes19:05
ddosantosI don't know why I didn't think of that before19:05
jhutchins_wkqhartman: Do you have an objection to using the method used for install isos?19:05
KroachGuest1649: you mean what the shortcut stands for? GRand Unified Bootloader19:06
Niteshany girl here.....16-2219:06
jhutchins_wkddosantos: Your method _should_ work - it works for USB drives I have in order to define permissions for the mounts, but the iomega, well, rules are different.19:07
kunjiGrandpa_smasher: Actually though I think it will still try the other one first, as it is primary and so it still may be slow.  You might need to set up a static ip to force it to use only the dns entries you set (I believe it grabs others through DHCP).19:07
ddosantosjhutchins_wk: thanks for the support, I will make some tests. I think I will set the settings to noauto and mount it manually when needed, as I don't it need it to be always there19:07
ddosantosdon't need it*19:07
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BookwormserHello, how do you disable tftp service?19:07
Niteshany girl here.....16-2219:07
jhutchins_wkddosantos: You might experiment with blkid on the drive without a cartridge vs with one.19:08
mdahello19:08
jhutchins_wkBookwormser: How did you enable it?19:08
qhartmanjhutchins_wk, not neccesarily. Depends on what the person is trying to do exactly. If they are trying to a make a bootable USB from a bootable ISO, it makes sense. If they just need the files on the drive, it's overly complicated and requires that anythingalready on the drive be lost.19:08
Bookwormserjhutchins_wk: Not sure. It came up on an audit.19:08
DJonesNitesh: Wrong channel for dating19:08
ddosantosI don't know what's a cartridge19:08
mdahello - i just installed ubuntu on an usb with universal usb installer i did  NOT choose persistant file size - does uvuntu save data on my usb if i browse or use skype !? ty19:08
ddosantosI'm googling it19:09
jhutchins_wkBookwormser: No way to find out who enabled it & why?19:09
jhutchins_wkBookwormser: It's not trivial to set up, so they must've had a good reason.19:09
kunjiNitesh: This is not a dating chat, stop being an asshole.19:09
Bookwormserjhutchins_wk: I can ask around. It shouldn't be enabled though, as this is just a historical data server.19:09
tqrstBluesKaj: uptime pissing contest? What? I was just asking why you were focusing on "startup scripts" given that I haven't "Started up" in forever.19:09
qhartmanjhutchins_wk, if they just need the stuff from the image on the USB disk, then mounting / copying is the most expedient method to get it.19:09
ddosantosthanks again, see you another time. Bye19:09
jhutchins_wkBookwormser: Off the top of my head /etc/init.d/tftpd stop should turn it off, then use update-rc.conf to prevent it from auto-starting.19:09
mdaanyone  ?19:10
mdahello - i just installed ubuntu on an usb with universal usb installer i did  NOT choose persistant file size - does uvuntu save data on my usb if i browse or use skype !? ty19:10
Bookwormserjhutchins_wk: Thanks, I will check it out.19:10
kunjimda: I believe not, you could just check though, since you've already installed it19:10
mdaty but how can i check ?19:10
jhutchins_wkBookwormser: tftp is mostly used for PXE - booting from the network.  It's sometimes used to transfer files to embedded devices (programming a router).19:11
kunjimda: Umm, I mean just literally check the places you think it might be saved and see if it is.  I think you will not find any though.  For instance, you could bookmark a page, reboot, and see if there is a bookmark.19:12
Bookwormserjhutchins_wk: Excellent, thank you. I got it squared away now.19:12
jhutchins_wkxlnt19:13
pushcxI'm running 12.10 and trying to get Nautilus to forget the password to an afp share I told it to 'remember always'. Everything I can find says it should be in seahorse, but zero of my network share passwords are in there. Where else should I look?19:16
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treesI desperately need help repairing my GRUB2 setup, its stuck in repair mode19:19
treesand Im kindof lost on how to fix it19:19
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number9I installed ubuntu 12.04 via the alternate install disk with lvm and full encryption onto a 320GB hard drive. When I go into thunar it tells me that I have only 80GB free, and it lists a 320GB hard drive that is unmountable as a 'removable drive' is this normal?19:20
niallobroinI'm trying to install opendkim and opendkim-tools on precise, but there's a version conflict. opendkim-tools : Breaks: opendkim (< 2.5.2+dfsg-2~) but 2.5.2+dfsg-1ubuntu3 is to be installed  Should I file a launchpad bug?19:21
hillaryi installed winff in ubuntu 12.04 and it used to work but it is no longer doing any conversion. Any problem?19:22
alimjnumber9: I also use LVM with encryption... What you say is not normal!19:22
number9alimj: that's what I thought. When I go in in gparted things look semi normal though, a small boot partition and then an extended encrypted partition for the rest of the disk.19:23
alimjYou should have everything else on that encrypted partition (including swap)19:24
alimjnumber9: My setup is 32gb for root, 4gb for swap and the rest for /home19:24
alimjnumber9: Plus one small un-encrypted 2gb partition for /boot19:26
number9alimj: thanks for your help, I might try a reinstall?19:26
alimjnumber9: Not necessarily.19:27
alimjnumber9: Please note that the system shows LVM2 partition and it can not mount it19:27
ns-nazrii have problem! i have smartphone neo L, when i connect usb in my linux, it is not working, what happen?19:28
number9alimj: well that's the weird thing is that it does mount because there is only that one partition, and so that is where my /home /swap and whatever are! But a harddrive shows up on my desktop that is 320GB that is unmountable19:29
alimjnumber9: That 320GB is the main LVM2 container. You should take care about the partitions within the LVM219:30
ns-nazribut i see not have smartphone computer19:30
alimjnumber9: Please wait a second, I am looking into my notes to send you a useful URL19:30
alimjnumber9: after creating the LVM, use something like these commands: lvcreate -n swap -L 8G vg19:31
hillaryany problem with my winff ubuntu 12.0419:32
PhonequerIf I have libboost-filesystem1.50-dev installed, does it automatically provide libboost-filesystem-dev? The same for 1.49 ?19:32
alimjnumber9: lvcreate -n home -l 100%FREE vg19:32
alimjnumber9: Please take note of -l 100%FREE19:32
alimjnumber9: Then you can: mkswap  /dev/mapper/vg-swap19:32
alimjnumber9: ... and: mkfs.ext4 -L home /dev/mapper/vg-home19:33
simpleuserHello there. Did someone try to configure Kobo after buying it, on Ubuntu ? I followed this tuto : http://nicofonk.fr/index.php?article9/installer-kobo-desktop-sur-debian-ou-ubuntu19:33
alimjnumber9: Actually I created a separate lv for root (/)19:34
simpleuserBut now when i launch "Kobo" in terminal i get this : "/usr/local/Kobo/Kobo: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.44: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"19:34
cicciolist19:34
simpleuserAny idea ?19:34
alimjnumber9: before creating /home I did: lvcreate -n root -L 32G vg19:34
alimjnumber9: However, you can have both /home and / on the same partition19:35
alimjnumber9: Or better to say, on the same logical volume...19:35
number9alimj: Thanks! I'll look into that. Is there a simple way to look into that without changing my configuration? Also will suspend (risky from a privacy standpoint, but convenient) and hibernate work?19:36
alimjyes19:36
alimjnumber9: One moment...19:36
xkernelis there a calender application that integrates with the desktop to give alerts on schedules?19:37
simpleuserAnyone ?19:37
alimjnumber9: lvextend, lvdisplay19:37
alimjnumber9: The first command should be able to extend a logical volume to the entire available space on volume group19:37
alimjnumber9: The first command is really useful. It displays the currently status19:38
alimjnumber9: Also lvscan19:39
number9alimj: thanks again, a bunch! I was not making progress in google alone. I'll try these things out and return if I have others! you're the best!19:39
semarjthey guys, i got a new ubuntu install, it seemed to install ok and even  booted once. However now when i boot I get the black screen/blinking cursor forever. Most solutions involv changing grub...I cant even get grub to come up (holding shift does nothing) going back to the livecd (usb key) i can mount and explore the filesystem..19:39
alimjnumber9: Home it helps.19:39
semarjt(12.04)19:39
alimjnumber9: I will be going. Others will help19:40
dufaHello! I have recieved a bootable dvd and would like to verify that the burned iso is actually the right one. I know what the md5 of the iso should be, but I am unceirtan as to how to verify the burned cd. Any help?19:40
alimjdufa: Check md5 of the DVD19:41
alimjdufa: use md5sum /dev/sr019:41
alimjdufa: /dev/sr0 should be replaced with your DVD drive address19:42
dufaalimj: the dvd is in /dev/sr0, should md5sum /dev/sr0 return the the correct sum?19:42
alimjdufa: YES19:42
dufaalimj: well, I thought so, but it doesn't19:42
alimjdufa: As soon as you execute the command, DVD starts spinning fast and reads the entire DVD19:43
alimjdufa: Then the DVD is not same as ISO19:43
mimirhi, i have a ASUS ROG G75VW laptop with AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (ath9k driver) and wireless n does;t work at all. won't see any n networks...19:43
dufaalimj: ok, it seems it isn't, just wanted to make sure as i didn't burn it myself, thanks19:44
alimjdufa: Anytime19:44
mimirconnection is stable on 2.4Ghz, but it's slow... :(19:44
mimircan i do anything to enable n?19:44
alimjOK, Bye guys - Time to sleep. zZz zZz19:44
jhutchins_wk!ath9k19:45
mimir!ath9k19:45
AmacidiaHey everyone. I have several DVD's that store some tar/gz files. No matter what disc I use, I'm always getting "Error splicing file: input/output error". Any ideas?19:45
mimirlooks like the bot doesn't know anything about ath9k19:46
AmacidiaI'm trying to copy the files off the dvd onto the local drive.19:46
jhutchins_wkmimir: You need the ath9k_htc driver + firmware.19:46
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mimirjhutchins_wk: cool, let me look into that19:47
mimirjhutchins_wk: thanks :)