[00:00] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: openbox can look great
[00:00] <saltmiser> namesJay please
[00:00] <k1l_> Joe: if winXP is slow better go for Lubuntu
[00:00] <saltmiser> aeon-ltd, it can, I'm talking out of the box
[00:00] <Joe> If I like Xubunutu and wish to continue my knowledge on the Linux OS, I will install a VM on my Windows Computer and run Ubunutu in that
[00:00] <C4zz1dy> 21 f florida asl
[00:00] <C4zz1dy> lol
[00:00] <Joe> Butchered that haha
[00:00] <k1l_> !ot | namesJay C4zz1dy saltmiser
[00:00] <saltmiser> Joe, learning Ubuntu is not learning Linux
[00:00] <Joe> *Xubuntu
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: customization is part of learning,.
[00:00] <Joe> Does that sound like a reasonable route to take?
[00:00] <C4zz1dy> ^Yes
[00:00] <aeon-ltd> yes
[00:01] <saltmiser> Joe, Xubuntu all the way. Avoid real ubuntu at all costs imo
[00:01] <saltmiser> avoid lubuntu in my opinion, as well.
[00:01] <saltmiser> as far as a complete desktop environment goes, it is not
[00:01] <Joe> Hmm so if I am to avoid Ubuntu, when I wish to install a VM on my Windows, which OS should I install?
[00:01] <saltmiser> well stay with Xubuntu
[00:02] <namesJay> Seriously am lookin to pass an hr before i hit the gym...which channel has lotta women above 30 ?lol
[00:02] <saltmiser> but if you want to learn Linux (and not Ubuntu) you'll have to start playing with the real toys, like Arch, FreeBSD and gentoo
[00:02] <Joe> So the VM is not necesarry?
[00:02] <k1l_> saltmiser: xubuntu is a big desktop. when winxp is slow its not a pleasure to use xfce at all
[00:02] <saltmiser> VM is not necessary
[00:02] <aeon-ltd> saltmiser: i wouldn't choose DEs for 'lightness', they pull in more dependencies than necessary
[00:02] <Joe> Okay I will just run Xubuntu on an old tower for now. It is likely I will be back! Thank you for all the assistance!
[00:02] <k1l_> namesJay: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support please
[00:02] <C4zz1dy> namesJay..what made you think #ubuntu would be lotta women above 30
[00:03] <saltmiser> lmfao
[00:03] <C4zz1dy> Good luck Joe!
[00:03] <saltmiser> k1l_, idk I run XFCE on my Pentium 3
[00:03] <saltmiser> works great
[00:03] <saltmiser> 512mb ram
[00:04] <namesJay> I dont know..took a chance besides someone said there are lotta women here
[00:04] <namesJay> Lol
[00:04] <saltmiser> I think you got played like a mofo
[00:05] <saltmiser> so where can I have some serious discussion on virtualbox vs vmware
[00:05] <saltmiser> considering both these platforms run on ubuntu, here might be ag ood place
[00:05] <saltmiser> I have a lot I want to vent about
[00:05] <jarray52> Has anyone used USB monitors with Ubuntu?
[00:05] <saltmiser> usb what?
[00:05] <escott> !ot | saltmiser
[00:05] <k1l_> saltmiser: #ubuntu-discuss maybe?
[00:06] <namesJay> Ok thanks
[00:08] <C4zz1dy> brb guys!
[00:10] <MrKitty> Hi, what command do I run to start the GUI?
[00:10] <craigbass1976> I followed these directions to fix someone's borked upgrade (they tried going to 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday) and I think it tok, but now 'm stuck at initramfs.
[00:10] <k1l_> MrKitty: start the dm like "lightdm"
[00:10] <MrKitty> Thank you :3
[00:10] <MrKitty> It worked
[00:10] <MrKitty> :D
[00:17] <Matriks404> anyone tested cs beta for linux?
[00:20] <aeon-ltd> Matriks404: csgo? are they even running a test?
[00:21] <nikowz> list
[00:21] <ClientAlive> I googled "dual boot windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04" and I'm seeing what looks like a lot of challenges with this. Is there any advice before I make a decision about this? Truth is: I would prefer an LTS version but I would also prefer ubuntu as UEFI boot. Am I correct in assuming 12.10 is UEFI but 12.04 is not? Any advice what my best option is?
[00:23] <craigbass1976> ClientAlive, I've had pretty good luck since dapper sticking withthe LTS versions.
[00:23] <ClientAlive> craigbass1976: thx for the input man
[00:23] <craigbass1976> ClientAlive, but I'd already quit dual booting by then, so I'm only half helpful I guess
[00:23] <icewhackr> Trying to get Ubuntu for Intel i73820 x64.  Download sez for AMD64.  Is this OK to use?  Or another Intel64 download  . . . ?
[00:23] <ClientAlive> I wonder if I can somehow have my cake and eat it too? (ie: uefi and lts in the same release of ubuntu)
[00:24] <escott> ClientAlive, disable secure boot. make sure you are booting your isntall media in efi mode.
[00:24] <aeon-ltd> icewhackr: that just means it's 64bit
[00:24] <k1l_> icewhackr: its called amd64 but its for intel and amd
[00:25] <escott> ClientAlive, and you shouldnt have any major issues with 12.04 and uefi provided you disable secure boot
[00:25] <escott> ClientAlive, if it picks the wrong bootloader you can just chroot in and install grub-efi
[00:25] <icewhackr> OK - Thnx - don't worry about the AMD name & just use on Intel as well.
[00:26] <craigbass1976> ClientAlive, down the road (after 14.2 maybe?  Anyone chime in) I don't think there will be the current LTS and "slightly less stable but still way better than Windows" scenario anymore.
[00:26] <ClientAlive> escott: cool. But now, about the time 12.04 came out I tried a uefi install on my desktop machine and it-was-a-horrrrorrrr-show. I ended up having to install in bios boot to get a working install. Have those issue been worked out? What can I expect when I try to do a uefi ubuntu install nowadays? Anything to watch out for?
[00:27] <escott> ClientAlive, why was it a horror show
[00:27] <craigbass1976> I followed these directions to fix someone's borked upgrade (they tried going to 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday) and I think it tok, but now 'm stuck at initramfs.  I have already been in the fs (just regular mounting from a livecd and chroot fom teh cd) and so I don't think it's a bad drive.  Also, there's no ntfs partition involved elsewhere on the drive.
[00:28] <ClientAlive> escott: It has been so long ago now that I don't recall the details (though I probalby have some scraps of paper around here with notes on them). All I rember is it was feeling very frustrated, not being able to get it to install correctly (or at all), spending a lot of time (as in a couple weeks) reaching out for help, and ultimately not being able to do it.
[00:29] <escott> ClientAlive, well efi is your only option if you want to dual boot
[00:29] <escott> so i would just go ahead and get started
[00:30] <escott> craigbass1976, "these directions" what directions?
[00:30] <craigbass1976> escott, oops.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[00:31] <ClientAlive> escott: (or anyone) - If I could have my DREAM UBUNTU - the cat's meaw - it would boot using boot stub where it just directly boots the kernel as an efi image. What do you think about that? Is it doable? How costly would that be (time, frustration level, etc)?
[00:31] <escott> craigbass1976, well if you are in the initramfs then grub is working
[00:32] <escott> ClientAlive, absolutely doable. i believe it requires a patched kernel. i dont believe those patches are in ubuntu kernel
[00:32] <escott> ClientAlive, and honestly i think it will never be a particularly popular way of booting the system. people like the menus, people like the shim support for secure boot, and im wary of putting the kernel on a fat partition
[00:33] <ClientAlive> escott: so what is the basic outline of doing something like that? (my guess? - fresh install of ubuntu desktop, then ?????)
[00:33] <escott> ClientAlive, you would be compiling your own kernel and directly placing it into the efi partition. i can't say more about how its done as I dont know much about it
[00:34] <ClientAlive> escott: I had not considered that notion before (putting the kernel on a fat partition). What, and defragging?
[00:34] <ClientAlive> escott: I see  :)
[00:34] <craigbass1976> escott, I figured.  But how to folks normally get past initramfs when it's not bad drive or ntfs related?  I'm about to go down this path: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1877789&page=2
[00:35] <Nerkshank> please help http://pastebin.com/8ehSwXGW
[00:36] <escott> craigbass1976, it should give you some indication of why you are in the initramfs
[00:37] <escott> craigbass1976, check /proc/cmdline to see what you told the kernel the root filesystem was and see if you can find that filesystem with blkid
[00:38] <Nerkshank> http://pastebin.com/8ehSwXGW need help upgrading
[00:38] <Nerkshank> anyone?
[00:39] <D-coy> Nerkshank, m4v he know
[00:40] <Nerkshank> m4vn yt?
[00:40] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> that looks straightforward
[00:40] <Nerkshank> not to me lol...
[00:40] <Nerkshank> m4v, u there?
[00:41] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> use apt-cdrom instead of apt-get update
[00:41] <Nerkshank> so do i need to install it to a cdrom and just cant update?
[00:43] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> it thinks it's on cdrom already and that it could use it if you used the apt-cdrom command
[00:43] <Nerkshank> but no cdrom is installed
[00:44] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> you have no optical drive of any kind?
[00:45] <escott> Nerkshank, did you modify any files in /etc/apt prior to this
[00:45] <Nerkshank> yes i do but the cd doesnt have the 12.xx update on it do i need to add a new repositry or something?
[00:45] <Nerkshank> no this is fresh install
[00:46] <Nerkshank> trying to do software update and it keeps failing
[00:46] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> was there a disc in the drive when you attempted to update?
[00:46] <Nerkshank> no
[00:47] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> for some reason it is trying to do an update from disc
[00:48] <k1l_> comment the cd-repo in the sources.list?
[00:48] <k1l_> or disable it in the gui.
[00:48] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> It might be just as simple to burn a disc with the update
[00:49] <Nerkshank> ya... ill try resarting maybe
[00:49] <InFlames> anyone ever seen a weird issue where your desktop environment seems duplicated? say in cinnamon my applet bar is there 6 times?
[00:49] <Nerkshank> mint sucks
[00:49] <InFlames> it's in ubuntu
[00:49] <k1l_> Nerkshank: just take a look int the settings if the cd-rom is checked as an update ressource
[00:49] <InFlames> but it did it with any de
[00:49] <zygoptera> Nerkshank >> you are using mint?
[00:50] <k1l_> InFlames: for cinnamon support see the mint support since it is not in the ubuntu repos:
[00:50] <k1l_> !mint | InFlames
[00:50] <InFlames> i don't need cinnamon support
[00:50] <InFlames> the issue was xorg
[00:50] <InFlames> i am simply stating the de was cinnamon, that issue is now fixed
[00:51] <InFlames> but to fix it i deleted my xorg.conf (i have a backup) and restarted x
[00:51] <LiThiuME3> Anyone here have experience with Symlink ?
[00:51] <InFlames> now xorg.conf never came back?
[00:51] <zygoptera> Mint's packages sound yummy
[00:51] <k1l_> InFlames: the xorg.conf is not needed
[00:51] <craigbass1976> escott, a way around  this whole thing would be if I could dump out some mysql databases somehow from a livecd.  Ever heard of anyone doing that?
[00:51] <InFlames> i assumed that
[00:51] <k1l_> InFlames: if no xorg.conf is there it uses autodetect
[00:51] <InFlames> my issue is really with setting up dual monitors
[00:51] <escott> craigbass1976, sure. just get the mysql client packages installed in the livecd
[00:52] <InFlames> right now it can see both, but they only work when mirrored
[00:52] <InFlames> if i try to separate them and hit apply, it errors
[00:52] <InFlames> i can show you a few of the errors if you like
[00:52] <craigbass1976> escott, and then choot?
[00:52] <howl`> part
[00:52] <howl`> part
[00:53] <escott> craigbass1976, sure if the system is functional you could chroot thats even easier
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> howl`: uhh '/'?
[00:53] <zygoptera> InFlames >> the minute you mentioned mint, you lost most chance of getting your question answered here
[00:53] <escott> LiThiuME3, ?
[00:53] <Nerkshank> zygoptera, xubuntu
[00:54] <craigbass1976> escott, are you saying I could chroot to /mnt (if I mount the existing install there) and run mysql without doing anything else?
[00:54] <InFlames> zygoptera, i never mentioned mint, only cinnamon
[00:54] <escott> craigbass1976, if you have working binaries and the same machine architecture yes
[00:54] <zygoptera> InFlames >> same thing
[00:54] <InFlames> agree to disagree
[00:55] <InFlames> anyhow, the issue is really with multiple monitors
[00:55] <InFlames> it was just a weird occurance
[00:55] <InFlames> wondered what causes it
[00:55] <zygoptera> InFlames >> sauing cinnamon gave people the idea you were using mint
[00:55] <InFlames> i understand that
[00:55] <InFlames> and don't really see that as a problem
[00:56] <InFlames> i'm here for help, not a flame war
[00:56] <InFlames> i simply prefer cinnamon over unity
[00:56] <InFlames> although a combination of the two would be my favorite
[00:57] <InFlames> you don't happen to know a way i could use a launcher on the left like unity has outside of unity, do you?
[00:57] <zygoptera> InFlames >> then say you are using cinnamon in ubuntu a few times and maybe the other people heard will help you
[00:57] <k1l_> InFlames: when you are using cinnamon you should really ask the mint support, since most people here dont know what is going on and what issue is not produced by the cinnamon desktop
[00:57] <strawman-q> cls
[00:57] <InFlames> my question wasn't related to cinnamon, i shouldn't have mentioned it
[00:58] <secleinteer> hi, is there an up-to-date ppa for eclipse? all i could find was one with v3.4
[00:58] <InFlames> my issue is with multiple monitors and detecting the resolutions
[00:58] <InFlames> i will even switch to unity if that helps solve it right now
[00:58] <k1l_> InFlames: when it comes to display multimonitor the desktop used is an important factor
[00:58] <InFlames> the gpu is a radeon hd 5450
[00:58] <k1l_> smth can work for unity and fail for cinnamon or other way around.
[00:59] <InFlames> well i can switch to unity and we can see if it's solvable there
[00:59] <InFlames> i am fine with whatever makes it easy
[00:59] <zygoptera> InFlames >> you are trying to detect the monitor's supported resilutions?
[00:59] <InFlames> yes
[00:59] <InFlames> i get some strange errors about min and max sizes when i try to apply settings
[00:59] <InFlames> via the settings window in ubuntu
[01:00] <zygoptera> InFlames >> maybe if you manually specify a resolution, and hope you are right?
[01:00] <InFlames> manually via xorg.conf?
[01:00] <zygoptera> yes
[01:01] <InFlames> that has been a nightmare
[01:01] <InFlames> i suppose i could put only the monitor's resolution setting in there and try?
[01:01] <InFlames> would that work?
[01:01] <InFlames> i mean would x accept that
[01:01] <zygoptera> usually
[01:02] <InFlames> i'll switch desktops, try that and come back
[01:10] <virusuy> howdy y'all
[01:10] <Busi> im looking for someone who might be able to help me with http://paste.ubuntu.com/1578521/ im running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS on a hosted dedicated server and can't seems to find a fix for it.
[01:11] <escott> Busi, what are the permissions on /etc/sudoer
[01:11] <escott> s
[01:11] <jrib> Busi: was it always like this?
[01:11] <Busi> escott im kinda noobie to ubuntu and in general shell access, so how is it i see the permissions?
[01:12] <Busi> no it happen within the last hour.
[01:12] <jrib> Busi: ls -l /etc/sudoers
[01:12] <jrib> Busi: well what were you doing before it happened?
[01:13] <Busi> 4 -r--r----- 1 root root 750 Jan 27 19:44 /etc/sudoers
[01:13] <Busi> created a new user account.
[01:13] <jrib> Busi: what's the "4"?
[01:14] <Busi> no idea, it was in the output of ls -l /etc/sudoers
[01:14] <Busi> ohh or not forget the 4 :)
[01:14] <escott> Busi, did you create that user in your current session
[01:15] <escott> Busi, if so can you paste your history
[01:15] <Busi> no, in a other session.
[01:15] <escott> Busi, can you verify you are a member of sudo or admin in "groups"
[01:15] <escott> Busi, although that should give a different error
[01:16] <Busi> with groups command it only outputs root
[01:16] <Busi> and with "groups root" it gives me root : root
[01:16] <jrib> Busi: ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[01:16] <Busi> -rwsr-xr-x 2 root root 71288 May 31 2012 /usr/bin/sudo
[01:16] <escott> Busi, why would you sudo when you are already root
[01:17] <escott> Busi, "whoami" and "id"
[01:17] <Busi> and the /usr/bin/sudo is in red, im more and less new to shell access
[01:17] <escott> Busi, red because it is setuid
[01:17] <Busi> whoami is root and guid, gid and groups are 0(root)
[01:18] <escott> Busi, well the error is strange but you are root
[01:18] <escott> so no need to sudo
[01:18] <jrib> Busi: ls -ld / /etc
[01:18] <jrib> yes, error is weird...
[01:18] <Busi> drwxr-xr-x 23 root root 4096 Jan 25 19:30 /
[01:18] <Busi> drwx------ 110 root root 4096 Jan 27 19:36 /etc
[01:19] <Joe> If I were to boot from a USB with the iso of Ubuntu, it offers me an option to test and not install Ubuntu, correct?
[01:19] <escott> Joe, yes
[01:19] <jrib> escott: the permissions on /etc seem a bit odd but I still don't see why sudo would throw that error
[01:20] <kantlivelong> any idea why mdraid boots with /dev/md/0 then switches to /dev/md0??
[01:20] <Guest29151> I'm stuck at an initramfs prompt.  Nothing that I know of is wrong with the drive, and I don't see any solutions so far on the forums.  I'm currently booted to a 12.04 xubuntu livecd, but the system is regular ubuntu
[01:21] <jrib> Busi: pastebin output of « mount » just for fun
[01:21] <kantlivelong> Guest29151: it gives no info?
[01:21] <Busi> « mount » or « mount » just for fun ?
[01:22] <Guest29151> not that I know of.  (intramfs)  I'm going to try fsck just in case, but was wondering what else anyone thought.
[01:22] <jrib> Busi: "mount" without the quotes
[01:22] <kantlivelong> Guest29151: try fsck first
[01:22] <kantlivelong> Guest29151: check logs as well
[01:22] <escott> jrib, yes /etc has to be 755 otherwise the user cannot read passwd
[01:23] <Busi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1578553/
[01:24] <jrib> Busi: is there a reason /etc has strange permissions?
[01:24] <Busi> not that i know of, didn't change it
[01:25] <jrib> Busi: are you even able to login as another user?
[01:25] <Adie> WOOOOOOOO INCEST!
[01:26] <alexhairyman> YEAH
[01:26]  * Adie high fives
[01:26]  * alexhairyman five highs
[01:27] <genoobie> hey all'
[01:27] <Adie> Sup bbgrl
[01:27] <genoobie> does ubuntu have a text install?
[01:27] <jrib> genoobie: there's minimal install and server install that you can use
[01:28] <jrib> genoobie: what ubuntu version were you thinking of installing?
[01:28] <Busi> jrib nope, can't seems to be able to login with an other user.
[01:28] <genoobie> well I am in the process of install lubuntu - alternate
[01:29] <jrib> Busi: I suggest changing the permissions on /etc back to theird default with « chmod 755 /etc ».  You don't remember running any chmod commands?
[01:30] <Busi> the only chmod i have done is 750 on www folder "cmod 750 /var/www"
[01:30] <Busi> chmod*
[01:31] <Busi> but have done chmod 755 /etc now.
[01:31] <jrib> Busi: what was the sudo command you were trying when you got the error you pastebinned?
[01:32] <Busi> a simple sudo adduser
[01:32] <jrib> Busi: ok try that again
[01:32] <Busi> okay that works now. wow thanks a lot
[01:32] <Guest29151> kantlivelong, gah... fsck /dev/sda2 gives me fsck: fsck.linux_raid_member: not found      fsck: error 2 while executing fsck.linux_raid_member for /dev/sda2
[01:33] <agrestringere> got a quick question, is there a way to reduce the amount of video memory that Compiz uses, are there quality settings?
[01:33] <kantlivelong> Guest29151: what partition type is it
[01:34] <Guest29151> kantlivelong, ext4
[01:34] <kantlivelong> Guest29151: try fsck.ext4 /dev/sda2
[01:36] <carlom61> anyone with 12.10+Nvidia Prop drivers installed &no issues with unity?
[01:37] <Guest29151> kantlivelong, mucha bettah.  /dev/sda2: clean, 357751/9281536 files, 17706947/37109232 blocks      So what could be giving me the initramfs grief?
[01:37] <zygoptera> carlom61, there must be someone in the world, but if they had no problem they are less likely to come here to say it
[01:37] <kantlivelong> Guest29151: anything in /var/log/messages?
[01:38] <wjtaylor_> I can't click on desktop icons or icons in nautilus (icon and compact view don't work. List view allows me to click though.)
[01:39] <lwizardl> okay my nephew had a problem with updating his system today and decided to hard power off the system and now his system won't boot. this is what it shows http://wizardsarcade.com/ComputerScreen.jpg
[01:39] <zygoptera> carlom61 >> there is no rule saying you must use unity if it is causing you problems, there are other options
[01:39] <carlom61> I know but I got stuck with forums and guides and still when I install drivers from NVIDIA I get unity disappear
[01:39] <Guest29151> The last date of messages was 1-13.  Thismake's no sense, as I thought the fellw who owns this box just hosed it yesterday...
[01:40] <carlom61> zygoptera>I know but what if I wanna install NVIDIA drivers without breaking anything?
[01:40] <zygoptera> carlom61 >> there is xfce (xubuntu) kde (kubuntu) lubuntu (lxde)
[01:40] <Nerkshank> later bitches
[01:41] <Nerkshank> oh i got question: doe xubuntu support compiz
[01:41] <zygoptera> xfce does load compiz
[01:41] <carlom61> nm
[01:41] <lwizardl> anyone know what it will take to fix the system? I told him to try the recovery mode and then drop to shell and run the commcand it gives. but it errors and says read only file system
[01:42] <Adie> WOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST!
[01:43] <kc5fwk_> can anyone advise me on how to get streaming video to work?  I tried installing flash.  I either did it wrong or it did not work?
[01:43] <mfilipe> is there any software for Ubuntu to birthday reminder?
[01:43] <zygoptera> lwizardl >> boot the live cd and run fsck from there
[01:43] <lwizardl> k
[01:44] <zygoptera> lwizardl >> it is very likely the hard power off corrupted the filesystem
[01:45] <lwizardl> that was what i thought. he said it was stuck on doing the update on libc.bin if i remember correctly
[01:45] <zygoptera> lwizardl >> most likely there were a few hundred files still open when it lost power
[01:47] <kc5fwk_> I am having trouble getting flash related video to work.  can anyone help with this, please?
[01:47] <lwizardl> k i'll try that when he gets here and if that don't fix i'll be back
[01:47] <aeon-ltd> if i clone the entire disk (/dev/sda to /dev/sdb) will i need to copy the mbr over, or will it take everything over to the new disk?
[01:47] <apos> kc5fwk_,  install totoem and make sure you have totem and flash browser plugin?
[01:48] <kc5fwk_> I am a noob with Linux, help please
[01:48] <apos> aeon-ltd,  it depends on what you use to clone it with
[01:48] <zygoptera> aeon-ltd >> if you use dd to clone it all, you will get the mbr
[01:48] <escott> aeon-ltd, that will bring over the mbr, but that may or may not be bootable
[01:48] <kc5fwk_> ok where can I get these programs, please?
[01:49] <bloodriver> hello! just a general command and question.  is it me or has the last two version of ubuntu seem a bit unstable?  i keep getting 'internal errors' and the odd freeze every couple of days.  some are easily identified and corrected but why?
[01:49] <john38> Anybody know a good program for converting mpg to wmv files
[01:49] <aeon-ltd> escott: more specific on the bootable part please?
[01:49] <zygoptera> aeon-ltd >> if you start at sector and go to the end, you will get the partition table and it should be bootable
[01:49] <aeon-ltd> zygoptera: ok
[01:50] <zygoptera> at sector 1
[01:50] <zygoptera> though dd calls sector 1 sector zero
[01:50] <efkt> john38: mencoder or one of it's frontends
[01:51] <apos> kc5fwk_,  go to your launcher menu and open the terminal -> type "sudo apt-get install adobe-flash && sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin && sudo apt-get install totem" (without the quotes)
[01:51] <aeon-ltd> zygoptera: will i need to do this from a live environment or is it safe to just boot into the existing install, log in as root and start dd-ing?
[01:51] <john38> efkt, how do you run it?
[01:51] <zygoptera> aeon-ltd >> you must use the live cd. linux can not be running when you copy it, or the copy will think it was not shut down properly
[01:52] <aeon-ltd> zygoptera: ok
[01:52] <kc5fwk_> thank you apos VERY much.  I truely appreciate the response.
[01:52] <apos> aeon-ltd,  check out http://redobackup.org/
[01:53] <aeon-ltd> apos: sounds like clonezilla
[01:53] <apos> kc5fwk_,  paste that long command into a terminal and you should be good to go
[01:53] <aeon-ltd> thanks for the replies people
[01:53] <efkt> john38: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MEncoder should get you started. Please consult the mencoder wiki for specifics. It's a very versatile program so it has a lot of options
[01:54] <john38> efkt, thanks
[01:54] <zygoptera> aeon-ltd >> I've cloned linuix system disks many times with dd
[01:54] <zygoptera> aeon-ltd >> Though I use scsi, which may or may not make a difference
[01:55] <kc5fwk_> apos I did as you suggested and it can't find adobe flash.  I thought I installed it.  I'll try to get it.  thank you
[01:55] <escott> aeon-ltd, just that it may or may not be bootable depending on where grub is looking and how the boot setup is configured
[01:55] <apos> then remove that part of the command. totem is the most important part
[01:55] <escott> aeon-ltd, if you are doing a cross-disk boot for instance...
[01:56] <aeon-ltd> escott: ahh ok ,then i assume i'll need to modify the boot line to the right /dev/sdx
[01:57] <bloodriver>  hello! just a general command and question.  is it me or has the last two version of ubuntu seem a bit unstable?  i keep getting 'internal errors' and the odd freeze every couple of days.  anyone else?
[01:57] <shawn> Hey
[01:58] <apos> 12.10 had a few issues at first, systems are running great, nothing to complain about
[01:58] <shawn> Is the the support chat?
[01:58] <apos> yes this is ubuntu support
[01:58] <Dmnchild> Is it possible to change the software raid to 0 after its already been set to 1? For some reason every time I install an OS on OVH.com manager, it keeps pushing 1, even if I manually choose 0.
[01:58] <piranah> apos nope this is i heart bacon dot com :P
[01:58] <escott> Dmnchild, no
[01:58] <apos> does your raid controller support raid0?
[01:58] <shawn> Im having problems with my hard drive if someone can help please
[01:58] <Dmnchild> Grr. thanks. ticket time, find out why they are pushing that heh
[01:59] <Dmnchild> It gives me the option so guessing so. Though, it is saying its soft raid, not hardware based
[01:59] <Dmnchild> Guessing LVM or whatever that on people use is, not sure.
[02:01] <bloodriver> then it's me?  10.10 was a great, but since 12.04 the internal error pop-up are too frequent...I more up to 12.10 hoping to avoid them...but the popups are as common.  i have fixed some.
[02:01] <escott> bloodriver, what desktop are you using
[02:01] <bloodriver> was were the issues...and where (url) can i go
[02:01] <bloodriver> 12.10
[02:02] <bloodriver> gnome
[02:02] <shawn> Linux says 2.0TB file system but when I try and install something it says im out of space
[02:02] <escott> bloodriver, gnome not unity?
[02:02] <bloodriver> gnome never unity
[02:02] <bloodriver> :P
[02:03] <escott> bloodriver, try plain debian, their gnome is cleaner
[02:03] <escott> shawn, what is the output of "df -h"
[02:03] <shawn> im sorry im a noob at this. how do i find that out?
[02:03] <satanxx> anyone one can telll me if there is a hardwaremanage for xubuntu?
[02:03] <escott> shawn, open a terminal. type "df -h" and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <bloodriver> like debian...but now that i have set up 12.10 i'll hang in...but just thought i'd quiz the crowd and see if i was doing sumin' wrong
[02:04] <cub> what video card works best with unity
[02:05] <shawn> i typed "df -h" said command not found
[02:05] <apos> sounds like a bad upgrade bloodriver. have you tried a clean install?
[02:05] <apos> did you remove the quotes?
[02:05] <shawn> Yes i did
[02:05] <escott> shawn, dont
[02:06] <shawn> still says the samething
[02:06] <john38> efkt, do you happen to know the output format for wmv eg....-ovc lavc but for wmv?
[02:06] <bloodriver> not lazy...just more back from Opensuse (very nice) but wanted easier access to Netfilx, Spotify, etc.    All my installs are clean.
[02:07] <escott> bloodriver, for netlfix try windows
[02:08] <escott> shawn, can you copy paste the full terminal session or send a screenshot
[02:08] <escott> !paste | shawn
[02:08] <plwert> I just filled out a pdf form with evince, and saved it to ~/foo.pdf. Opening it in evince shows the data that I put in, but opening it in acrobat reader only shows an empty form. What gives?
[02:08] <shawn> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ df-h
[02:08] <shawn> df-h: command not found
[02:08] <shawn> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ df-h paste.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <shawn> df-h: command not found
[02:08] <shawn> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ "df -h"
[02:08] <shawn> df -h: command not found
[02:08] <FloodBot1> shawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:08] <karpuragauram> phantom
[02:08] <shawn> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ "df -h" paste.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <escott> shawn, sp a ces areim port ant
[02:08] <escott> shawn, "df -h"
[02:09] <bloodriver> not complain, per se, but if Debian has a 'cleaner' gnome, maybe i'll just knock out the errors as they come.  Dual boot w/Win7...but I'm on Linux more often...
[02:09] <kc5fwk_> apos, I believe I have to update my Linux and Firefox.  I'll have to read up and figure that out.  Thank you for the help.
[02:09] <k1l_> bloodriver: the errors appear because the setting was changed to display every error and ask to report it
[02:09] <bloodriver> ohh!
[02:09] <plwert> looks like I'm not the only one who's had his tax forms mangled by evince: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/poppler/+bug/897322
[02:09] <jwrigley_> hey, having trouble installing ubuntu... parted/gparted won't recognize my partition table
[02:09] <k1l_> bloodriver: so the errors just appear nowadays. its not that they got more
[02:09] <shawn> i am using space lol
[02:10] <efkt> john38: something akin to this: http://www.howforge.com/how-to-convert-avi-to-wmv-by-mencoder - But some more googling might be required :)
[02:10] <bloodriver> well then, i'm an avid supporter
[02:10] <bloodriver> :)
[02:10] <jwrigley_> I've pasted it here: http://pastebin.com/tV5BMpHc
[02:10] <karpuragauram> Hello
[02:11] <bloodriver> that makes sense...thanks for the heads up guys!
[02:11] <bloodriver> i can sleep now
[02:11] <escott> shawn, no you aren't you did "df-h" and "df-h paste.ubuntu.com" then you did ""df -h"" with the quotes included
[02:11] <escott> shawn, so do the 4th variant you havent yet done
[02:12] <escott> with the space without the quotes
[02:12] <shawn> shawn@shawn-desktop:~$ df -h
[02:12] <shawn> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[02:12] <shawn> /dev/sda1        62G   50G  8.6G  86% /
[02:12] <shawn> udev            5.9G  4.0K  5.9G   1% /dev
[02:12] <shawn> tmpfs           2.4G  960K  2.4G   1% /run
[02:12] <FloodBot1> shawn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:12] <shawn> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[02:12] <escott> shawn, please listen to the bot and use paste.ubuntu.com
[02:13] <shawn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1578656/ here it is
[02:13] <kc5fwk_> can anyone direct me to a current version of Ubuntu, please?
[02:13] <escott> shawn, i dont see any 2TB filesystem anwhere
[02:13] <escott> anywhere
[02:14] <escott> kc5fwk_, http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <kc5fwk_> TYVM escott
[02:15] <fat> http://leaguerpgifts.com/ref/?id=itz70xm4nb
[02:16] <shawn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1578659/
[02:17] <escott> shawn, the space on /dev/sdb1 isn't going to help you if you have to install programs
[02:18] <shawn> So how do i fix this issue i wanna be able to use most of the 2TB to download and install games and such
[02:18] <escott> shawn, that disk is mounted to /media/UUID programs you install put files in /usr
[02:18] <escott> shawn, you can use baobob to identify where you are using disk space and try to mount some of those folders onto the other disk
[02:19] <escott> shawn, for instance you might have /usr/share/games on another disk or /home on another disk
[02:19] <escott> !home | shawn
[02:20] <shawn> so if i use the usr folder in the 2.0 TB filesystem it will allow me to use that 1TB that is availiable?
[02:20] <escott> shawn, you cannot put /usr on another disk
[02:20] <wonderlessgirl> can anyone help me, nobodys been able to get anywhere for 5 days, every tim i install ubuntu and try to install anything or update or anything i get a read only file system error, 5 days and nobodys been ble to help, we have ruled out hardware faults, and dont just say ubuntu isnt for you
[02:21] <shawn> I just wanna be able to use the full 2TB i don't really care about moving stuff
[02:21] <dw-> mic issue.. can record in audacity by selecting the hw input. when i load pavucontrol i see the levels of the input moving up and down for a short time then it stops moving.  nothing can be heard through pulseaudio, i.e. skype.. ideas ?
[02:21] <wonderlessgirl> ehh,,
[02:22] <wonderlessgirl> google it
[02:22] <wonderlessgirl> why would you ask here without googling it
[02:22] <escott> wonderlessgirl, please don't tell people to "google it"
[02:22] <k1l> wonderlessgirl: do you have this issue right now?
[02:22] <wonderlessgirl> well thats a very easy thing to find with google
[02:22] <wonderlessgirl> yes kil, my old beloved friend, i do
[02:22] <wonderlessgirl> im on the live usb
[02:22] <zygoptera> wonderlessgirl >> you deserve better than ubuntu
[02:23] <waveform> eeyyooo
[02:23] <wonderlessgirl> what is that supposed to mean
[02:23] <waveform> soo looks like the freezing and kernel panics were related to Ram power settings
[02:23] <zygoptera> wonderlessgirl >> ubuntu is problems for most of the people attempting to use it
[02:23] <shawn> so how do i fix it? sorry im so confused
[02:24] <krywk> Hi guys, I'm having a bit of a problem with One Late Night.
[02:24] <escott> !home | shawn follow this for $HOME
[02:24] <wonderlessgirl> and nobody can help me get it to work
[02:24] <zygoptera> wonderlessgirl >> that's because it's heavily flawed
[02:24] <Galaxor> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 from a usb cdrom drive.  When I bootup from the cd using legacy bios, it boots up just fine.  When I bootup using uefi, I get an unadorned grub screen and when I boot, it goes to a black screen and doesn't attempt to read anything from the CD.
[02:24] <wonderlessgirl> what  should i used then
[02:24] <escott> shawn, if there are other folders you would like to do the same thing for please ask in channel first to make sure it is a folder you can safely move to another disk
[02:24] <Galaxor> I need to boot to uefi in order to install onto my 3TB drive.
[02:25] <Galaxor> I also tried editing the grub boot line and adding nomodeset.  No luck.  Same behavior.
[02:25] <wonderlessgirl> use the usb drive then x)
[02:25] <apos> escott,  why can you not put /usr on a diff disk? i've got an edubuntu 12.04.1 box that has 10gb /, 20 gb /usr and 30gb /home and it runs beatifully for a druon900 w/ 640 RAM
[02:25] <elky> zygoptera, why are you here?
[02:25] <escott> wonderlessgirl, since you claim to know an answer to dw-'s problem could you please tell him the answer
[02:25] <shawn> don't really need to move it just would like to know how i can use the other 1tb that is availiable
[02:25] <escott> apos, its not supported. run "ldd /bin | grep usr" to see why
[02:25] <k1l> wonderlessgirl: so you use a live system?
[02:25] <zygoptera> wonderlessgirl >> debian is less torublesome, and it is what ubuntu was based on
[02:26] <k1l> zygoptera: stop that, please
[02:26] <krywk> I'm trying to play it on Fantastic video settings (All on maximum, SSAo, Use Halo, etc.) and in 1600x900. Thing is, the game is awfully slow. Now, you might be thinking 'his PC is not capable of running it in max', let me tell you I can run Crysis 2 ON LINUX through WineHQ at Maximum, with no lags whatsoever. Now, I've opened gnome-system-monitor and found out the game isn't even using half of the CPU power.
[02:26] <krywk> Any help?
[02:26] <wonderlessgirl> dw-
[02:26] <wonderlessgirl> * texla (~ray@h222.203.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #ubuntu
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 mic issue.. can record in audacity by selecting the hw input. when i load pavucontr
[02:26] <FloodBot1> wonderlessgirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:26] <wonderlessgirl> ops
[02:26] <shawn> Yeah
[02:26] <wonderlessgirl> dw- http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/audacity-records-for-a-half-second-then-stops-723221/
[02:27] <dw-> audacity works fine
[02:27] <dw-> pulseaudio dont
[02:27] <wonderlessgirl> oh
[02:27] <krywk> It happened to me once
[02:27] <wonderlessgirl> let me rephrase my google seach then
[02:27] <krywk> I just kept trying.
[02:27] <krywk> :T
[02:27] <krywk> Sooooo...
[02:27] <dw-> yea i changed the config and now the inputs are all gone
[02:27] <dw-> guess need ar eboot
[02:27] <krywk> Any help for my problem? :T
[02:28] <cub> what video card works best with unity
[02:28] <cub> anyone?
[02:28] <wonderlessgirl> maybe this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1180669
[02:28] <dw-> i will see what a reboot does
[02:28] <wonderlessgirl> really..?
[02:29] <wonderlessgirl> he didnt try rebooting?
[02:29] <cub> wonderlessgirl, are u adorable?
[02:29] <shawn> also why is it saying its used 842gbs when i haven't even dowloaded anything
[02:29] <wonderlessgirl> im an adorable feisty bitch
[02:29] <cub> wonderlessgirl, my kinda girl <3
[02:29] <wonderlessgirl> go away now :)
[02:29] <elky> cub, this is a tech support channel, not a dating service
[02:30] <wonderlessgirl> can anyone help me, nobodys been able to get anywhere for 5 days, every tim i install ubuntu and try to install anything or update or anything i get a read only file system error, 5 days and nobodys been ble to help, we have ruled out hardware faults, and dont just say ubuntu isnt for you
[02:30] <cub> elky i work for canonical, i think i know that
[02:30] <krywk> wonderlessgirl, try formatting the drive? :T
[02:30] <wonderlessgirl> fuck you, ive formatted like 9 billion times now
[02:30] <k1l> wonderlessgirl: again: is this issue on a usb-live-system?
[02:30] <wonderlessgirl> literally all day yeserday i was reinstalling for peopel
[02:30] <cub> wonderlessgirl, quit using profanity, it is not allowed in here.
[02:31] <ajeffco> formatting isn't the same as nuking the drive and starting over
[02:31] <krywk> k1l, what if it is? I've been experiencing problems with that.
[02:31] <shawn> Screw it i guess im gonna reinstall
[02:31] <wonderlessgirl> whqat?
[02:31] <k1l> wonderlessgirl: stop that language. its not appropriate here
[02:31] <krywk> I mean, USB filesystems.
[02:31] <wonderlessgirl> its and issue after i install, like i said
[02:31] <wonderlessgirl> from a usb , and ive changed usb, and redownloaded ubuntu
[02:31] <wonderlessgirl> i even tryed linux mint and had the same issues
[02:31] <niriven> I loves WebGL :) http://hcmaslov.d-real.sci-nnov.ru/public/mp3/Offspring/Offspring%20'Amazed'.mp3
[02:31] <k1l> wonderlessgirl: so is this problem on a live-system or on a real install?
[02:31] <niriven> shit..
[02:32] <wonderlessgirl> can you not read? ive told you twice, after i install i have issues
[02:32] <krywk> k1l, I'm having problems with a pendrive turning into read-only once in a while :T
[02:32] <cub> wonderlessgirl, you have been trying to install from USB, what about DVD?
[02:32] <wonderlessgirl> i have no dvds
[02:32] <cub> okay, and you "burned" this image to the USB yourself?
[02:33] <k1l> ok, so can you give us some logs? like dmesg? maybe its a faulty hdd. or make sure your partitions are not running out of space
[02:33] <krywk> k1l, she said it's right after a fresh install, so I don't really think it's a space problem :T
[02:33] <cub> perhaps redownloading it, check the checksum of the file before burning it again, and then try reinstalling. If that doesn't work then you might need to get a hold of a DVD burner.
[02:33] <wonderlessgirl> i have a 250 gb ssd, no partitions, i give it 16 gigs of swap wich is stupid but one of you guys said to,
[02:33] <waveform> hmm
[02:34] <cub> yeah you don't need that much swap wonderlessgirl  :)
[02:34] <krywk> I'm just gonna repost my problem
[02:34] <wonderlessgirl> i never once said burned, so if your teasing be about that then your retarded because i said used a usb
[02:34] <satanxx> so.... i got a nvidia gtx660m... i cant find correct drivers any suggestion?
[02:34] <cub> You have to put the image on a USB somehow, unless you bought it pre-loaded you have to put it on the USB and then get your machine to boot from it.
[02:34] <subb1> hi guys
[02:34] <krywk>  I'm trying to play One Late Night on Fantastic video settings (All on maximum, SSAo, Use Halo, etc.) and in 1600x900. Thing is, the game is awfully slow. Now, you might be thinking 'his PC is not capable of running it in max', let me tell you I can run Crysis 2 ON LINUX through WineHQ at Maximum, with no lags whatsoever. Now, I've opened gnome-system-monitor and found out the game isn't even using half of the CPU power.
[02:34] <k1l> wonderlessgirl: like i told: logs could help to investigate the issue. out of the blue there could be several issues
[02:35] <wonderlessgirl> i dont know how to get logs ok
[02:35] <cub> Bottom line is wonderlessgirl , if the image used on the USB has faults, it could cause those issues.
[02:35] <satanxx> so.... i got a nvidia gtx660m... i cant find correct drivers any suggestion?
[02:35] <wonderlessgirl> well ive downloaded it 3 times and checked it every time, ive changed usb and everything
[02:35] <krywk> satanxx: Applications > System > System Config > Additional Drivers > NVIDIA (current-updates version)
[02:36] <wonderlessgirl> you guys are morons, andd you all do this, you decide its one thing i know its not and then you just keep hammering that one idea and tring nothing else
[02:36] <cub> lol wonderlessgirl , i've never expierenced your issues period
[02:36] <wonderlessgirl> both of yous are just saying its the usbs fault, i have no money or id use windows because this is shit, im not buying dvds,
[02:36] <cub> and i've installed multiple linux distros on different machines of different stats.
[02:36] <krywk> wonderlessgirl, you came here asking for help but your manners are not the ones indicating you're actually trying to be helpful for us to actually be able to help you.
[02:37] <krywk> Oh well
[02:37] <krywk> she's gone
[02:37] <krywk> :T
[02:37] <cub> i think they are a troll
[02:37] <krywk> Anyone got a solution to my problem? :I
[02:37] <lister> Maybe a bot
[02:37] <krywk> Didn't look like it
[02:37] <krywk> Maybe just a troll.
[02:38] <k1l> well, lets move on :)
[02:38] <krywk> I really need help with this game :T
[02:38] <OerHeks> no, Bianca/wonderlessgirl was here yesterday, but we still don't know what the problem is, we do not get enough detals.
[02:39] <krywk> And yet again she's back?
[02:39] <krywk> Listen up wonderlessgirl_, if you think the people here can't help you, then go ask somewhere else.
[02:40] <k1l> !language > wonderlessgirl_
[02:40] <wonderlessgirl_> kick me for language? all anyone ever says here is its probably your usb's fault or check your md5, omfg ive been having issues for 5 days now you think i havent heard it 50 billion times?
[02:40] <lister> A shop offers to my a NOTEBOOK MSI CR460 ubuntu preinstalled, but it is not certified, what can i wait for?
[02:40] <krywk> Then go ask for help somewhere else if you're not finding anything here.
[02:41] <krywk> Try the forums, there's more to support than an IRC chat.
[02:41] <wonderlessgirl_> no
[02:41] <wonderlessgirl_> im not waiting for a forum repsonse,
[02:41] <satanxx> krywk, its not letting me change drivers
[02:42] <k1l> wonderlessgirl_: you are ban evading. join #ubuntu-ops if you want to speak about that ban.
[02:42] <wonderlessgirl_> this is the 21st centrury,   the only thing slower than getitng support through a forum, is pen and paper
[02:42] <tripelb> I have QN old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. I also have some not partition that came with the dell, for recovery? I just want everything proper.
[02:42] <krywk> satanxx, do you have superuser permissions?
[02:42] <escott> thanks k1l
[02:42] <cub> that's so annoying...
[02:42] <satanxx> i do but DIDNT OPEN a su
[02:42] <satanxx> CAPS
[02:43] <apos>  usb is the most likely issue. if thts not it then you should log the startup and shutdown sequence to see if the computer is not properly shutting down. i dont own a hard drive, i use only usb. and i can tell you it sounds like a usb issue. try changing filesystems, perhapse
[02:43] <cub> i've never had that problem installing any linux distro
[02:43] <cub> and i've installed it on all kinds of machines
[02:43] <krywk> Then I don't see why it's not letting you change drivers.
[02:43] <cub> old and new
[02:43] <krywk> :T
[02:43] <gilb> I just installed Ubuntu and selected encryption with the installer- how do I set the password now?
[02:43] <krywk> Select the driver, click Install. Does it let you do that?
[02:44] <krywk> Or, well, 'Activate'.
[02:44] <lister> A shop offers to me a NOTEBOOK MSI CR460 ubuntu preinstalled, but it is not certified, what can i wait for?
[02:45] <krywk> I'll repeat my problem once again, and then, if I don't get an answer, I'll search somewhere else. :T
[02:45] <krywk>  I'm trying to play it on Fantastic video settings (All on maximum, SSAo, Use Halo, etc.) and in 1600x900. Thing is, the game is awfully slow. Now, you might be thinking 'his PC is not capable of running it in max', let me tell you I can run Crysis 2 ON LINUX through WineHQ at Maximum, with no lags whatsoever. Now, I've opened gnome-system-monitor and found out the game isn't even using half of the CPU power.
[02:45] <krywk> (And by IT i mean One Late Night)
[02:46] <krywk> Any suggestions?
[02:47] <k1l> krywk: the game isrunning in wine?
[02:47] <lister> A shop offers to me a NOTEBOOK MSI CR460 ubuntu preinstalled, but it is not certified, what can i wait for?
[02:47] <lister> please
[02:47] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, what do you mean by "what can I wait for"
[02:47] <krywk> k1l, no, the game was made in Unity 4.0, and I downloaded a native linux version.
[02:48] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04.1 additional drivers nvidia (current driver) which version is this driver ??
[02:48] <Seven_Six_Two> krywk, there's a linux version of Unity? I thought that was windows only
[02:48] <k1l> krywk: hmm. i dont know the game. i would try to ask the game community/devs, too
[02:49] <krywk> Seven_Six_Two, no, it's just the game that has a Linux version, Unity 4.0 implemented 'Export Linux binary' tool. The development kit in itself hasn't been ported.
[02:49] <lister> Seven_Six_Two: Well, Does wireless work?
[02:49] <krywk> k1l, I might try asking the devs, I just thought I could get some help here. :T
[02:49] <iIlL10Oo>  libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.22-0ubuntu1) but 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is to be installed
[02:49] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, I don't know, and that's not what I saw you asking. What's the chipset that it uses?
[02:49] <k1l> krywk: i dont know if there is a general ubuntu problem in that caase or if its a game-problem
[02:50] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, if it comes with ubuntu preinstalled, it's likely that the wireless works
[02:50] <lister> Seven_Six_Two: http://www.msi.com/product/nb/CR460.html#?div=Specification
[02:50] <krywk> k1l, Well, I didn't get this problem at all with other native Linux games. I might try it out with 'No Heroes' once it's out (Linux port, also Unity). If the problem is present there, then it might be Unity game issues.
[02:51] <cub> okay what graphics card works best with Unity??
[02:51] <krywk> I might as well try the windows version under WINE, since Unity games run wonderfully under WINE.
[02:51] <cub> im using an intel integrated chip and have 1gb of ram, and it's a little slow
[02:51] <lister> Seven_Six_Two: I cannot prove the notebook before to pay for it!
[02:51] <iIlL10Oo>  libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.22-0ubuntu1) but 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is  installed
[02:52] <escott> cub, intel is very well supported but the fact that you only have 1gb of ram suggests your system is just underpowered in general
[02:52] <genoobie> hey all
[02:52] <genoobie> just finished installing "lubuntu"
[02:52] <cub> escott, i can upgrade to 4gb (the max supported) but will this actually help the speed at which unity runs?
[02:52] <genoobie> but the login screen is all screwed up
[02:52] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, so the shop will sell it to you, but won't let you return it if it's not working? Tell the shop to stuff it.
[02:53] <genoobie> the first page "lubuntu" logo is OK
[02:53] <cub> like for example.... the Window preview is slower on this machine than it was on my desktop using the LiveCd
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, buy from somewhere else.
[02:53] <escott> cub, im guessing no. if they sold a system with only 1gb of ram then it was either very old or a netbook which is never going to be blazingly fast
[02:53] <genoobie> but where you get the login screen is all blocked / illegible
[02:53] <lister> There is cheapest
[02:53] <genoobie> must be an "X" problem
[02:53] <genoobie> suggestions on how to fix?
[02:53] <k1l> genoobie: install the videocard driver? what card is it? which driver using so far?
[02:54] <cub> well my machine is old, like i said i can upgrade the ram from 1gb to 4gb, but that is the max supported
[02:54] <cub> i cannot install more than 4gb on this pos
[02:54] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, so what? You send me $100 and I'll send you a computer.
[02:54] <genoobie> kll no way to know just yet
[02:54] <genoobie> I just logged in from memory
[02:54] <genoobie> not sure how to get a terminal screen when the video is all effed
[02:54] <genoobie> any suggestions?
[02:54] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, you get what you pay for, and a shop that won't take back something that doesn't work, doesn't deserve your money. Spend a little bit more and get something that's not chaff.
[02:55] <k1l> genoobie: with crtl+alt+f1 you can switch to a terminal and with crtl+alt+f7 you can switch back
[02:55] <genoobie> okay cool!
[02:55] <genoobie> it's giving errors on the tty
[02:55] <lister> Seven_Six_Two: Well, where do you live?
[02:55] <genoobie> urgh
[02:55] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, and don't think I don't know what it means to not be able to afford it. There's a reason that I'm using a 6 year old pc right now.
[02:56] <genoobie> Buffer I/O error device fd0, sector 0
[02:56] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, Canada, so it's not like I can say there aren't lots of shops.
[02:56] <lister> Seven_Six_Two: so do I
[02:56] <genoobie> Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[02:56] <lister>  I'm using a 6 year old pc right now.
[02:57] <genoobie> end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[02:57] <genoobie> bad hdd?
[02:57] <Seven_Six_Two> I would suggest buying from a reputable online retailer if there aren't any other shops that you can go to.
[02:57] <krywk> Is this the full error, genoobie? Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0
[02:57] <krywk> Oh, yes it is.
[02:58] <genoobie> yes
[02:58] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, sorry...I'll have to end this line, as this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[02:58] <genoobie> krywk, bad hdd?
[02:58] <krywk> genoobie, I still don't know, I'm searching about it
[02:58] <Seven_Six_Two> lister, I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[02:58] <genoobie> hrm, let me restart
[02:59] <krywk> Looks like the system is trying to mount a floppy disk.
[02:59] <krywk> :I
[02:59] <Seven_Six_Two> krywk, edit your fstab and comment out the floppy entry
[02:59] <krywk> No, I mean, genoobie's problem
[02:59] <krywk> lol
[02:59] <InFlames> anyone know if SubSection is a valid section name in xorg.conf?
[02:59] <genoobie> urgh, okay
[02:59] <texla> Ubuntu-12.04.1 additional drivers nvidia (current driver) which version is this driver ??
[02:59] <iIlL10Oo>  libmysqlclient-dev : Depends: libmysqlclient18 (= 5.5.22-0ubuntu1) but 5.5.29-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is  installed
[03:00] <escott> genoobie, fd0 would usually be floppy disk 0
[03:00] <Seven_Six_Two> InFlames, I can't say for sure, but in all my time, I've never seen it.
[03:00] <genoobie> okay, cool
[03:00] <lister> Seven_Six_Two: Ok, no problem, thanks a lot.
[03:00] <genoobie> so I am back at the grub
[03:00] <InFlames> Seven_Six_Two, it was for setting the VirtualScreen size
[03:00] <genoobie> should I try to boot to a "recovery" kernel?
[03:00] <krywk> texla, should be 3.04
[03:00] <genoobie> or recovery mode?
[03:00] <InFlames> SubSection "Display"
[03:00] <InFlames>                 Virtual 4480 2680
[03:00] <InFlames>         EndSubSection
[03:00] <InFlames> like that
[03:00] <FloodBot1> InFlames: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <InFlames> oops
[03:01] <genoobie> or should I do a command line to get an X-enviro?
[03:01] <xbmc> exit
[03:01] <xbmc> quit
[03:02] <genoobie> hrm
[03:02] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, I'm sorry to ask, but what is your problem? I'd like to help!
[03:02] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, awesome!
[03:02] <genoobie> okay, so I just installed lubuntu
[03:02] <genoobie> the splash screen comes up fine\
[03:03] <genoobie> but then the login screen is completely borked
[03:03] <genoobie> probably a bad X11 setting
[03:03] <genoobie> plus it's trying to mount a floppy
[03:03] <kc5fwk_> does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to mail a copy on disc?  I'm not seeing a link on the website.  I'm probably looking right at it though ..... lol
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, ok, can you alt+ctrl_F1 for a terminal?
[03:03] <bashinate> I have a question, when logging into splash screen it immediately takes me back,  mysql is failing to start i see
[03:03] <bashinate> restarting xorg has not helped
[03:03] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, don't worry about the floppy. I'll show you the fix.
[03:04] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, yes, but I am back at grub thinking there is a command line option that might help with "X" and fd0
[03:04] <genoobie> should I just boot to ubuntu?
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, no, boot normally, and ctrl+alt+f1 and then log in.
[03:04] <Dmnchild> Is there a better way to edit user accounts than the system settings? it seems I created a user, but possibly allocated a small amount of /home space to this user when i want them to have no limitations.
[03:04] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, tell me when you're ready.
[03:05] <genoobie> okay
[03:05] <genoobie> booting
[03:05] <Seven_Six_Two> Dmnchild, you both share the /home space
[03:05] <genoobie> there seems to be some kind of batch thing in the beginning that is looking for a floppy
[03:05] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, don't worry about it.
[03:05] <Dmnchild> Hm, mebbe its a setting elsewhere for the program limiting that user account.
[03:06] <gilb> I just installed Ubuntu and selected encryption with the installer- how do I set the password now?
[03:06] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, I am logged in
[03:06] <Dmnchild>  /home has 2tb
[03:06] <genoobie> it stopped trying to mount the floppy
[03:06] <escott> gilb, its the user password
[03:06] <genoobie> but login screen is borked
[03:06] <gilb> escott, thank you
[03:06] <escott> genoobie, some motherboards send weird stuff wrt to floppys you can blacklist the module
[03:06] <gilb> is there any way to verify that my disk is in fact encrypted?
[03:07] <escott> gilb, encrypted home is different from encrypted disk
[03:07] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, ok, at the terminal, type (without quotes) "sudo apt-get install gdm". it will prompt for your password, and then ask you to choose a display manager. choose gdm and tell me what the other choices are.
[03:07] <genoobie> escott, that's a bit out of my league at the moment
[03:07] <escott> gilb, but your ciphertext is stored in ~/.Private
[03:08] <bashinate> would mysql not starting have anything to do with being re-directed to splash screen at login ?
[03:08] <genoobie> do I want to continue?
[03:08] <genoobie> no choices listed
[03:08] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, yes
[03:08] <gilb> escott, thank you again
[03:08] <krywk> Huh?
[03:08] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, what's the basic idea here
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, that's just asking because apt selected other packages to install as well. They're probably dependencies.
[03:09] <genoobie> yes
[03:09] <krywk> It looks like 'One Late Night' requires an i5 to run at Beautiful-Fantastic
[03:09] <krywk> I have an i3
[03:09] <krywk> :T
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, changing the default display manager. That's what gives the login screen.
[03:09] <genoobie> gdm is an option and lightdm is an option
[03:09] <omfgwhy> ive got a strange ubuntu issue
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, since yours looks corrupted, changing to another one is a good first step.
[03:09] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, choose gdm
[03:09] <genoobie> okay
[03:09] <omfgwhy> it appears that apt has a hardcoded ip address for us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <krywk> Actually no
[03:10] <krywk> no.
[03:10] <krywk> Lightdm is better.
[03:10] <krywk> GDM usually gives problems with newly created users.
[03:10] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, does the display manager only handle the intro screen?
[03:10] <genoobie> ugh
[03:10] <krywk> You can change it later though
[03:10] <krywk> So if you're experiencing these kind of problems, don't worry
[03:10] <Seven_Six_Two> krywk, oh? and can you fix a corruption from the terminal? You've been here long enough to suggest something genius.
[03:11] <genoobie> so the dm became corrupted (or at least that's the premise)?
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, yes, and you can change it at will.
[03:11] <genoobie> okay
[03:11] <genoobie> back at $
[03:11] <genoobie> restart?
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, no. "sudo service gdm restart"
[03:11] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, and see if you get to a good login screen
[03:11] <krywk> Seven_Six_Two, actually you CAN change from GDM to LightDM from terminal
[03:11] <krywk> Not sure how though, but you can.
[03:11] <genoobie> nah
[03:12] <genoobie> equally borked
[03:12] <genoobie> :)
[03:12] <genoobie> ugh
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> krywk, I know. that's what we just did.
[03:12] <genoobie> uh oh
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, can you define "borked" without saying "broken"?
[03:12] <genoobie> so is ctrl-alt-f1
[03:12] <krywk> Wait, so he's been using LightDM the whole time?
[03:12] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, what do you see?
[03:12] <genoobie> hold a sec
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, can you do ctrl+alt+F2?
[03:13] <genoobie> how do I switch out of terminal screen again?
[03:13] <krywk> I'm gonna try and run this game on Good
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> the gui is ctrl+alt+F7
[03:13] <genoobie> yeah but now the tty screen looks funny
[03:13] <genoobie> okay
[03:13] <qiyong> is lxr dropped?
[03:13] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, terminals are from F1...F6
[03:13] <qiyong> how to find dropped pkgs?
[03:13] <genoobie> if I go to ctrl+alt+F7
[03:13] <genoobie> there are four stripes
[03:13] <genoobie> blue field
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, ok, what kind of video do you have?
[03:14] <genoobie> whitish blockiness on them
[03:14] <genoobie> s3 savage I think
[03:14] <genoobie> whopping 8mb sgram
[03:14] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, thinkpad?
[03:15] <genoobie> yep
[03:15] <genoobie> older t21
[03:15] <genoobie> now you are going to tell me it's not supported :)
[03:15] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, can you get to a terminal again?
[03:16] <uplinx> Anyone know about running 2x dual head cards for a total of 4 monitors?
[03:16] <genoobie> yes
[03:16] <genoobie> but its all weird now
[03:16] <krywk> Well it's not my PC's issue since it runs slowly even on Fastest.
[03:16] <genoobie> back at terminal
[03:16] <genoobie> now what
[03:16] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, please prepend with my nickname. It makes it easier to see messages that are for me. Most clients will autocomplete a nickname if you hit tab after a few letters.
[03:16] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, you got it
[03:16] <qiyong> how to find dropped pkgs?
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-s3"
[03:17] <pingupingu> hello guys
[03:17] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, sorry...put "savage" instead of "s3"
[03:17] <krywk> Now that I remember, Thinkpad computers DO have problems with Ubuntu. Not sure why though
[03:17] <pingupingu> whats is the preferred backup solution?
[03:18] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, I am rebooting because I could not read the tty
[03:18] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, ok.
[03:18] <krywk> I might be talking out of my butt though, so I'm not sure
[03:18] <genoobie> krywk, if you are you could put that on youtube and make money...
[03:19] <krywk> Yep, definitely talking out of my butt.
[03:19] <genoobie> okay, urgh
[03:19] <krywk> Anyways
[03:19] <krywk> I have... ANOTHER problem.
[03:20] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, alread installed
[03:20] <krywk> Whenever I use an pendrive on Ubuntu, after some time it turns into read-only
[03:20] <genoobie> 0 to remove and 128 not upgraded
[03:20] <krywk> what do I do about it?
[03:20] <krywk> :I
[03:20] <escott> krywk, don't use a pendrive... hardware like that is not meant for long term use
[03:20] <tripelb> I have QN old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. I also have some not partition that came with the dell, for recovery? I just want everything proper.  Please help.
[03:21] <krywk> escott, I mean, in normal ubuntu use, not for installing or anything like that, just to transfer files from one PC to another
[03:21] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, can you paste the output of "lspci -v" to pastebin.com and paste a link to it here please?
[03:21] <genoobie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/184089/lubuntu-12-04-on-an-ibm-thinkpad-t21
[03:21] <genoobie> what does this mean...
[03:22] <escott> krywk, still the same can be said... its cheap lower power, fragile form factor
[03:22] <escott> krywk, make sure you aren't pulling it before it completely umounts
[03:22] <genoobie> um, not really sure how to do this without a graphical interface
[03:22] <tripelb> I have an old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled windows after a problem that led to a grub recovery> prompt. and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. I also have some not partition that came with the dell, for recovery? I 
[03:22] <krywk> escott, it's a Kingstom DT-102, 4 GB
[03:22] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two,  um, not really sure how to do this without a graphical interface
[03:22] <krywk> I don't think it's a low-end pendrive at all
[03:23] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, how to downgrade your mesalib? I wouldn't try it...
[03:23] <krywk> escott, also, I make sure to remove it in safe mode before pulling it out
[03:23] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, so I have to go back to an older version of lubuntu
[03:23] <genoobie> that's fine
[03:24] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, that's what I get from reading that bit of help
[03:24] <escott> krywk, im not saying it has anything to do with low-end or high-end
[03:24] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, if you've got a few minutes, I'll take a quick break and have a think. An older version would be the easiest
[03:24] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, you're standing at the edge of a rabbit hole.
[03:24] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, that's what that seems to imply though correct...although that person is obviously able to make it work
[03:24] <genoobie> just poor video performance.
[03:25] <genoobie> I suppose I could just run XP
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, although to be honest, this kind of issue is how I learned about linux.
[03:25] <escott> krywk, im saying its a market where the price point is for a disposable product... so they aren't making industrial strength flash drives. if it gets your pictures from one computer to the next call it a victory. if it doesn't reformat and try again
[03:25] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, yeah, it'
[03:25] <genoobie> I was able to run xubuntu and it loaded up OK
[03:26] <genoobie> let me try lubuntu 11
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, it's looks like it's possible, but probably not if you have to get personal help on irc.
[03:26] <genoobie> :)
[03:26] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, sorry. not that it's impossible, but for me to guide you through it would be a lot more difficult than downloading an older version and sticking with that.
[03:26] <krywk> :I
[03:26] <genoobie> I think 11 has the 3.x kernel though
[03:26] <krywk> Also I just made a port for Pesadelo for Linux
[03:27] <krywk> Just copied over a few files from One Late Night
[03:27] <krywk> :T
[03:27] <genoobie> xubuntu was fine, just super slow
[03:27] <genoobie> maybe I should try to slim down xubuntu
[03:27] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, that's related to the 3d driver (hardware acceleration) but the mesalib is for software acceleration.
[03:27] <genoobie> somehow that version 12.10 worked...now I am perplexed
[03:28] <genoobie> but xubuntu - lubuntu should've installed the same.
[03:28] <genoobie> granted I went with an alternate install on the lubuntu
[03:28] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, 12.10 worked for you?
[03:28] <genoobie> and xubuntu I used the graphical install
[03:28] <genoobie> yes
[03:28] <lister> I'm going to the bed...
[03:28] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, then go back to that!
[03:28] <genoobie> nite lister
[03:29] <genoobie> yes, but the problem was xubuntu was prohibitively slow
[03:29] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, you can strip it down once it's working
[03:29] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, are you going to be around a while?
[03:29] <genoobie> not really sure how to "strip it down"
[03:29] <genoobie> :)
[03:29] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, oh yes. I'm up late tonight. I have to finish reading Tigana.
[03:29] <lister> bye
[03:30] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, stopping stuff that is running that you don't need
[03:30] <genoobie> okay I will be back after I install xubuntu, again, for the umpteenth time :)
[03:30] <krywk> I wonder if I can do the same for other Unity games
[03:30] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, have you considered DSL or Puppy?
[03:30] <genoobie> puppy was ok
[03:31] <genoobie> pkgman in puppy was a bit rough
[03:31] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, I can imagine!
[03:31] <genoobie> iirc the sound didn't work either
[03:31] <genoobie> only went up to the 2.x kernels
[03:32] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, I have a legal copy of 98SE if you're interested.
[03:32] <genoobie> haha
[03:32] <genoobie> I can't even remember how to use that OS
[03:33] <genoobie> I wonder if chrome would even work on that...
[03:33] <genoobie> to be honest, xp works OK, just not great
[03:33] <genoobie> thought I could get better performance with *nix
[03:33] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, you can, but part of it depends on you...
[03:34] <genoobie> heh...puppy has a new distro...
[03:34] <Seven_Six_Two> biab
[03:34] <genoobie> maybe I'll try puppy
[03:35] <genoobie> what's the difference between slackware compatible and precise-pangolin compatible...
[03:35] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, slackware is a totally different beast
[03:36] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, it doesn't use apt
[03:36] <genoobie> okay I will skip it for now
[03:36] <genoobie> ugh
[03:36] <genoobie> yeah, I don't want to mess with figuring out dependencies, etc.
[03:36] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, I wasn't making a qualitative observation though. Slackware is very good, and known to be very stable.
[03:36] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, any suggestion on which puppy distro might be best?
[03:37] <xangua> !ot
[03:37] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, debian is also another good choice. very stable, uses apt.
[03:37] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, so what was wrong with xubuntu?
[03:37] <genoobie> I mean it is slow
[03:37] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, nothing. But there are lots of choices, and each has its advantages.
[03:38] <genoobie> hrm, puppy was the fastest one I have used to date
[03:39] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, it's designed for very lightweight machines. but xangua is right, and we should go to offtopic to discuss further
[03:39] <genoobie> Seven_Six_Two, I don't want to take all your time
[03:40] <Seven_Six_Two> genoobie, don't worry. I'll let you know when I'm too busy. There's a reason I run multi-head
[03:40] <genoobie> okay, so I have two options,
[03:40] <genoobie> puppylinux or try to slim down xubuntu
[03:41] <genoobie> I don't know that the latest release of puppy works either
[03:43] <douloi> hello, just lurking to try and learn something, don't mind me.
[03:44] <douloi> clear
[03:45] <C-S-B> How can my laptop route ipv6, when all I have done is install gogoc on my server?
[03:46] <Thorbinator> Hi, how do I run multiple instances of VMware?
[03:47] <Thorbinator> this is using VMware player, trying to guest win7 and server 2008 on ubuntu 12.10 host
[03:48] <Seven_Six_Two> Thorbinator, you want to start multiple virtual machines, or instances of vmware? They aren't the same
[03:48] <Thorbinator> preferably multiple VMs
[03:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Thorbinator, to be honest, I've never tried, but I would assume that you just start another one from the control panel in the manner that you started the first one.
[03:49] <floppyears> n00b question, how can I remove/add items from the left hand sidebar?
[03:50] <uplinx> if i'm running 2 video cards and 4 monitors, is there any special configuration i have to do or does it run out of the box?
[03:50] <douloi> floppyears: from the left sidebar of what?
[03:51] <floppyears> douloi: the default launcher icons in the left hand side of the ubuntu desktop.
[03:51] <cgkades> floppyears: right click, lock to launcher?
[03:51] <Nick> Hello!!
[03:51] <cfhowlett> Nick, greetings
[03:51] <l0lh4rd> hi
[03:51] <cub> so no one had any video card suggestions
[03:51] <cub> lol
[03:51] <l0lh4rd> nope
[03:51] <floppyears> douloi: cgkades thanks. I guess I was doing the right click wrong. This is a macbook and I expected the right click to be ctrl+click instead
[03:51] <IveBeenBit> I'm new to Ubuntu and the OSS world. Can anyone explain to me how Canonical makes money?
[03:51] <Guest78490> I'm having some trouble with a bluetooth dongle on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone here lend me a hand?
[03:52] <cfhowlett> IveBeenBit, please take this discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks
[03:52] <Seven_Six_Two> uplinx, I think you'd need special configuration. I'd like to know too, as I'm running dual and would like to go to 3 or 4 without buying matrox gear.
[03:52] <cgkades> floppyears: how does it run on your mac? did you dual-boot?
[03:52] <Marcin_> IveBeenBit: if you are new in ubuntu and oss world learn them not ask question how to make money :)
[03:53] <uplinx> Seven_Six_Two: thanks for the information, i'll keep working on my google fu on this one
[03:53] <uplinx> Seven_Six_Two: I'm looking to run with 4 heads.
[03:53] <floppyears> cgkades: I wiped the hard drive and installed ubuntu 12.10 using the installer dvd. This is an old mackboo pro. It's not super fast, but it doesn't lag too bad.
[03:53] <Guest78490> Can you make Ubuntu recognize a bluetooth dongle booting from CD?
[03:53] <l0lh4rd> any good ebooks for learning linux
[03:53] <IveBeenBit> cfhowlett, Sorry...I will go to that channel and ask.
[03:53] <cfhowlett> IveBeenBit, no worries and welcome to ubuntu.
[03:54] <cgkades> floppyears: ah ok, cool. i have an old mac book. not sure if i want to install ubuntu, or keep it running os x and make it an itunes server
[03:54] <IveBeenBit> l0lh4rd, I found The Ubuntu Beginner's Guide to be pretty good by Jonathan Moeller. It's like 5 bucks on Amazon. I'm new myself.
[03:54] <floppyears> cgkades: yeah, I might do that with an old mac mini that I have around. Is it pretty hard to setup an itunes server?
[03:55] <l0lh4rd> thanks
[03:55] <cgkades> floppyears: by itunes server, i just mean, leave itunes running, and access all my ripped dvd's from my apple tv
[03:55] <floppyears> ah
[03:55] <cfhowlett> l0lh4rd, there is the free Ubuntu Pocket Guide version 1.1
[03:56] <floppyears> where can I find the setting to turn off the eye candy in ubuntu and make it run as fast as possible?
[03:56] <douloi> thanks for the book tip, I just bought it
[03:56] <bravis> So Ubuntu does not have glib by default?
[03:56] <floppyears> I know I can switch to a different wm and have it run fast, but want to try ubuntu de first.
[03:56] <pak> Hi All,Can anyone please suggest me at application for spped test of PCIe
[03:56] <DreadNaught> Am I allowed to freely ask a question in here? I'm new
[03:57] <mikodo> Apparmor from app called Armorforge. Should Firefox be set for enforce-mode. I have no router, just connect to a modem for one computer?
[03:57] <l0lh4rd> new here as well
[03:58] <bravis> so does anyone here use IRSSI?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> floppyears, light DE would be lxde or xfce
[03:58] <cgkades> bravis: sometimes. i use weechat mostly though
[03:58] <cfhowlett> DreadNaught, please ask you support questions
[03:58] <WACOMalt> Hi, I opened a file in nano, not realising I needed sudo to save it. When I try to save it naturally says permission denied. is there any way to get into sudo now so I dont lose my changes? or do I have to save elsewhere and then move/chown the file back to the original location?
[03:58] <DreadNaught> I need some advice on using Ubuntu in an internet cafe?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> WACOMalt, sudo on the fly ... no.
[03:59] <bravis> copy past after sudo @WAC
[03:59] <cfhowlett> DreadNaught, ask
[04:00] <Kaedalus> Excuse me, may I ask for support too?
[04:00] <cfhowlett> Kaedalus, please ask
[04:00] <cfhowlett> !details
[04:00] <bravis> mm weechat will look into it i got use to irssi and need glib to compile it but glib is not part of ubuntu
[04:01] <Kaedalus> So, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 from CD.  I'm trying to use a USB Bluetooth Dongle. It is recognized as a USB device, but not as a bluetooth adapter.
[04:01] <cgkades> bravis: why dont you apt-get install irssi?
[04:01] <Kaedalus> It uses BlueSoleil on Windows.
[04:01] <Kaedalus> What can I do to make it work?
[04:01] <Seven_Six_Two> Kaedalus, have you installed the bluez packages?
[04:02] <Kaedalus> Yes. Also two more bluetooth packages (Blueman and Bluewho)
[04:02] <Kaedalus> I tried resetting the bluetooth services through the terminal, to no effect.
[04:02] <bravis> hmmm cause that would make sense...
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Kaedalus, running from CD?  perhaps if you actually install ubuntu ...
[04:03] <cgkades> bravis: lol
[04:03] <Bon-chan> guys, may i ask for some link to online privacy with ubuntu articles?
[04:03] <bravis> lol i am tired dont know why i was trying to compile it
[04:03] <Kaedalus> That's my problem. I only wanted to do a quick use of a program which is Ubuntu only
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Bon-chan, please take this query to #ubuntu-offtopic as this is the support channel.  Thanks.
[04:03] <mikodo> Xubuntu 12.04 No router, just modem connect to one computer.  Apparmor from app called Armorforge. Should Firefox be set for enforce mode or complain mode? Anyone know?
[04:04] <Kaedalus> Using it only once, because the Ubuntu PC is not home.
[04:04] <Bon-chan> cfhowlett, sorry and thanks!
[04:04] <cfhowlett> Kaedalus, OK quick fix; install virtualbox, install ubuntu there and run it.
[04:04] <Kaedalus> Ok, will do that.
[04:04] <Kaedalus> I though it wouldn't work with bluetooth.
[04:04] <cfhowlett> Kaedalus, good luck
[04:04] <Kaedalus> Thanks for the help!!
[04:05] <cgkades> bravis: setting up the dependent libraries sucks. thats why i love package management
[04:05] <bravis> maybe a cigar will help the thought process...
[04:05] <bravis> its installed
[04:05] <cgkades> bravis: or a beer :)
[04:05] <bravis> that is what my mindset is
[04:06]  * cfhowlett ubuntu prefers homebrewed pale ale ...
[04:06] <bravis> used to do way too much compiling
[04:06] <bravis> kinda nice to have pkg managers
[04:06] <cgkades> bravis: you should look into weechat. it's pretty sweet. you can split up the terminal to multple windows
[04:06] <bravis>  bbiab smokin..
[04:06] <bravis> @cgkades i will
[04:07] <mikodo> Well, Armorforge I will leave Firefox and Thunderbird on enforce mode until told differently. Thanks! Bye
[04:15] <C-S-B> radvd is advertising an ipv6 network on my server
[04:16] <C-S-B> How do I make ufw block the incoming connections
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !ops
[04:16] <cfhowlett> raddvd
[04:16] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: ?
[04:17] <cfhowlett> radvd advertising through ipv6?  sorry if I mis-called you ...
[04:17] <WACOMalt> thanks bravis
[04:17] <marienz> that's what radvd is for :)
[04:17] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, as reported by C-S-B
[04:17] <Pici> cfhowlett: its a program.. on their computer.
[04:17]  * cfhowlett oh hell.  really?
[04:17] <bravis> love copy its your friend
[04:17] <WACOMalt> I need to add something to crontab to run every hour. what would the first 4 parts of that be? I totally do not understand crontab...
[04:17] <IdleOne> hehe, no worries
[04:17]  * cfhowlett nuclear facebomb to the table.
[04:18] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, sorry.
[04:18] <Flannel> WACOMalt: Your crontab? or the root one?
[04:18] <WACOMalt> I'm ... not sure.
[04:18] <Flannel> WACOMalt: what are you trying to run hourly?
[04:18]  * cfhowlett I find my ignorance ... appalling
[04:18] <WACOMalt> an rsnapshot backup
[04:18] <WACOMalt> also daily and weekly
[04:19] <C-S-B> did i just confuse everyone?
[04:19] <WACOMalt> 0 */24 * * * /usr/local/bin/rsnapshot hourly
[04:19] <WACOMalt> look right?
[04:19] <cfhowlett> C-S-B,  probably only me ...
[04:19] <lolcat> What does 'shred /dev/sdb' do?
[04:20] <Flannel> lolcat: secure deletion of everything on that drive.
[04:20] <lolcat> Flannel: how secure?
[04:20] <Pici> WACOMalt: you don't need */24.  Just 0 * * * * /do/whatever
[04:21] <xrs> C-S-B, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[04:21] <Flannel> lolcat: uh, depends on your options.  You can see man shred about all the goodies, but it will write various patterns, and then optionally all zeros.
[04:21] <bravis> ok noob q of the moment where do installed apps go? did apt-get install on a prog and cant find it in the apps...
[04:21] <Pici> WACOMalt: Thing of the crontab as filter that you'd put against a clock. whenever it matches, it runs.
[04:21] <C-S-B> xrs, I was hoping to do it using UFW commands rather iptables directly.
[04:22] <lolcat> Flannel: Oh, I thougth it was some sort of speed-deletion.
[04:22] <bashinate> so when I login at splash screen I am automatically re-directed to splash screen
[04:22] <Flannel> lolcat: Nope, it takes a while.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> bravis, try in terminal; locate program
[04:22] <bashinate> anyone seen this ?
[04:22] <xrs> chains and tables is how i was trained sorry
[04:22] <Ray> all see that
[04:22] <lolcat> Flannel: 500GB through USB will be slow, rigth?
[04:22] <Flannel> lolcat: I mean, you can ask it to do fewer passes, which will speed things up.
[04:22] <C-S-B> xrs, the tunnel endpoint, my server, is firewalled ok.
[04:23] <WACOMalt> so */24 means....
[04:23] <C-S-B> but It is advertising another subnet /64 to my clients
[04:23] <bravis> oh figured there was a new shortcut
[04:23] <Flannel> lolcat: yeah.  Probably leave that running overnight.  Apparently the default is 3 passes of patterns.
[04:23] <WACOMalt> every hour ... if the hour is a 24?
[04:23] <Pici> WACOMalt: */24 doesn't really make sense for a field that would normally match agains't any hour.
[04:24] <lolcat> Flannel: Ooh, it was fairly quick on my 80gb drive, but I guess it has to be done, I am encrypting the drive
[04:24] <Flannel> lolcat: If you're encrypting, aren't you going to populate it with random data anyway?
[04:24] <xrs> bravis, "/sbin", "/usr" in a few places and "/home/$you"
[04:25] <bashinate> why would splash screen re-direct upon login ? i've tried re-installing lightdm, deleted my home profile, created a new user, and still nada
[04:25] <lolcat> Flannel: yes, but I want to be sure the original content is truley gone
[04:26] <Pici> WACOMalt: even then */24 would mean every 24 hours. Which isn't what you want.
[04:27] <bashinate> also tried recovery cd and starting fail safe graphical environment
[04:28] <Ray> redirect..? where to..?
[04:29] <bashinate> back to splash screen
[04:29] <Ray> splash screen..?
[04:31] <bashinate> login screen
[04:31] <bashinate> http://i.stack.imgur.com/ozp9p.png
[04:31] <Ray> thats im waiting for :D
[04:32] <edward_> jj
[04:32] <edward_> jjjjjj
[04:33] <Ray> wait a minute
[04:33] <edward_> ..
[04:33] <cfhowlett> edward_, you have a question?
[04:34] <edward_> no
[04:34] <doctorpepper> does anyone know  where  i can get the live stream for LCA2013 ?
[04:34] <Ray> bashinate : is it about ~/.Xauthority..? try to delete it
[04:34] <bashinate> hmmm k, checking
[04:35] <Ray> bashinate : and then you just go to TTY1 and restart lightdm
[04:36] <Ray> ctrl +alt + f1, login, next type  sudo service lightdm restart
[04:37] <NegressCounty> I am addressing gry's answer about Laman.  The River Laman isn't in historical records because Lehi named it after his oldest son while passing it when he took his family out into the wilderness by the red sea before taking the voyage to the Americas
[04:37] <NegressCounty> The fact that the Laman River isn't on any map isn't proof that the Book of Mormon was supposedly a fabrication.
[04:37] <NegressCounty> Nephi specifically mentions in his account that it was a temporary encampment
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !ot|NegressCounty,  you're in the wrong channel sir/madam
[04:38] <NegressCounty> and they soon after went to the America's
[04:38] <NegressCounty> so it isn't like there would be an official naming of such by those left behind in that land
[04:38] <Ray> not here.. NegressCounty
[04:38] <bashinate> Ray: still same :(
[04:38] <NegressCounty> you see the record of this was found on buried tablets
[04:38] <cfhowlett> NegressCounty, this is not the channel you're looking for..
[04:38] <NegressCounty> revealed to Joseph Smith by the Angel Moroni
[04:38] <chamunks> I need to allow scp to acces sudo without a password
[04:38] <NegressCounty> If you read Nephi I well you can see the context
[04:38] <NegressCounty> gry  are you there?
[04:38] <cfhowlett> NegressCounty, stop please.
[04:39] <Ray> bashinate : going think another solution now
[04:39] <cfhowlett> NegressCounty, wrong channel ...
[04:39] <bashinate> cool, thx
[04:39] <Ray> #ubuntu
[04:39] <NegressCounty> anyhow.. anybody else who has any questions about such scripture can email me
[04:39] <Ray> sure
[04:39] <NegressCounty> or I can refer you to another bishop
[04:39] <Ray> but its #ubuntu
[04:39] <chamunks> I cant get around needing to use winscp or filezilla for some of the developers I need someone who knows how to disable password logins in a secure way via just scp
[04:39] <cfhowlett> NegressCounty, again, you are in the WRONG CHANNEL
[04:39] <NegressCounty> but everything in the Book of Mormon can be proven
[04:39] <NegressCounty> be sure of that gry
[04:40] <Ray> bashinate : did it..?
[04:40] <NegressCounty> what was that for?
[04:40] <chamunks> I know its possible I just dont know how to do it or hwat to look for I am here though  http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/sudo.man.html
[04:40] <NegressCounty> one of your members asked me a question about this here the other day
[04:40] <cfhowlett> !ot>NegressCounty,
[04:40] <Flannel> NegressCounty: This is a channel for Ubuntu technical support, religious discussions are offtopic here, please take it elsewhere.
[04:40] <bashinate> ray: did what ? its still borked
[04:41] <Linebecklink> hu
[04:41] <Linebecklink> hi
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Linebecklink, greetings
[04:41] <Ray> bashinate : try sudo rm ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority in the TTY1
[04:42] <bashinate> k
[04:43] <bashinate> ray: nope
[04:43] <Ray> bashinate : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1993104
[04:44] <WACOMalt> I am new to crontab, and am trying to schedule hourly,daily, and weekly backups. can anyone please ook at my crontab file and tell me if this makes sense? http://pastie.org/pastes/5893931/text
[04:44] <C-S-B> I have UFW blocking incoming ipv6 now but I cant get outbound connections to work. Can anyone help? I have outbound enabled.
[04:45] <Pici> WACOMalt: sure, except there is no 24th hour. its 0-23
[04:45] <Ray> bashinate : some solution just take out the probs on some computers :/ it's a Bug
[04:45] <WACOMalt> Pici, ah derp :D so 0 would be midnight
[04:45] <Pici> WACOMalt: yep
[04:45] <Ray> bashinate : Dont know exactly what number the bug is.
[04:46] <chamunks> Does anyone have any idea how that I could do this?  Seems they want me to add sudo -s into the scp/shell info on winscp but it wont connecct to the ubuntu host
[04:46] <Pici> WACOMalt: everything else looks fine.  I'd just check `man 5 crontab` to see which day of the week is 0, I can't recall off the top of my head.
[04:46] <bashinate> ray: thats what I was afraid of
[04:46] <bashinate> yeah i had tried creating another user and guest already
[04:46] <bashinate> and nada
[04:47] <WACOMalt> 0 is sunday
[04:47] <bashinate> gonna check the logs
[04:47] <Ray> bashinate : many users finally re-install the ubuntu
[04:47] <bashinate> of course this is my media server, and finally have everything configured how i want :(
[04:48] <Ray> its easy, but need a cup of coffee and wafers to do that~
[04:53] <Ray> bashinate : yep its hurt to reinstall, why you dont try to install another DE like Gnome3..???
[04:54] <Ray> bashinate : so when you login, choose gnome3 instead of ubuntu & ubuntu 2d
[04:54] <bashinate> i've tried all of them
[04:54] <bashinate> none work
[04:54] <WACOMalt> (warning, opinion coming) install Cinnamon Ui and be happy.
[04:55] <bashinate> haha, i've actually been wanting to try it
[04:55] <Ray> you've just have been trolled by a bug, probably~
[04:56] <Ray> why you dont?
[04:56] <chamunks> I feel like this channel is too busy sometimes to get help
[04:56] <WACOMalt> I love it. its like if Gnome 2 had kept being developed and improved along that path. None of that touch UI, overly-simplified stuff.
[04:56] <chamunks> Is there a decent visudo line I can add that will allow me to scp into my box without a password
[04:56] <bashinate> i'm gonna re-install, looks like only option at this point
[04:57] <bashinate> chamunks: you can setup ssh keys
[04:57] <bashinate> and then you can scp without a passwd
[04:58] <somsip> chamunks: set up SSH key access. If you have a valid key for the machine you're connecting to, it will use it without prompting (if there is no password on the key)
[04:58] <chamunks> bashinate, Holy hell thank you very much.
[04:58] <chamunks> bashinate, I've been /bin/bash'ing my head against my desk for hours trying to figure this out.
[04:58] <bashinate> ssh-keygen -t rsa
[04:58] <bashinate> that will create the public / private key pair
[04:59] <chamunks> bashinate, and I can install that ssh keypair into the root user then via sudo>?
[04:59] <chamunks> would that let this be possible?
[05:00] <bashinate> you can login with ssh keys as root if thats what your asking ?
[05:00] <bashinate> or whatever other user you want
[05:00] <chamunks> bashinate, yes because I need the webdev to have access to the webroot and he can only connect via filezilla/winscp
[05:00] <bashinate> yeah thats fine
[05:00] <somsip> chamunks: you are going to allow someone else root access to your server?
[05:01] <chamunks> somsip, this is just a testing box
[05:01] <bashinate> haha
[05:01] <chamunks> somsip, I'd rather be more fined grained with the controll access but i dont really know any other ways right now.
[05:01] <somsip> chamunks: you really would be better setting up safe permissions, but it's up to you
[05:01] <bashinate> yeah somsip is right, but thats your choice
[05:02] <somsip> chamunks: at the least, you could just add the dev user to www-data group so you keep him in /var/www
[05:02] <chamunks> somsip, I've been having nothing but nightmares getting the perms working I gave up at one point to see if chmod 777 would work but then it was just messing with me anyways and still giving me perm denied responses.
[05:02] <bashinate> i would never give a developer root, you can just create a user account for them and they can still login with ssh keys
[05:02] <chamunks> somsip, I couldnt find the name of that damn group earlier anywhere www-data ok I'll use that access control method in the main server.
[05:03] <chamunks> bashinate, well I have added him as that I tried that and even installed the webroot of his vhost inside his /home/
[05:03] <somsip> chamunks: from long, slow experience, it is well worth while learning about how to use permissions before you start doing things like this. It is a process of learning, but it's vital on servers open to others
[05:03] <bashinate> 777 on a server is just asking to get owned
[05:03] <bashinate> its the lucky number
[05:03] <lasindi> Hi all, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 on my HP Pavilion g7. When I select "Try Ubuntu" or "Install" or "Check Disc for Errors" I just get a black screen. I saw online it might be due to my Radeon graphics card, but when I press Ctrl Alt F1 nothing happens. I did try entering the GRUB command environment, and it told me I could press Ctrl X to boot, but that doesn't work (the alternate key (don't remember what it was) does work). So I'm not sure if my C
[05:03] <lasindi> trl key doesn't work in GRUB for some reason, or where I can go from here.
[05:04] <chamunks> somsip, yeah im usually fine with this method its just tonight im throwing my hands up because this server isnt that important its just meant to essentially be testing anyway
[05:04] <chamunks> bashinate, oh god I know very much about 777 :P
[05:04] <somsip> chamunks: I understand. Just trying to offer advice, but take it as it's needed right now.
[05:04] <chamunks> bashinate, I was just trying to see if my system was just screwing with me or not and obviously its trolling .
[05:04] <cub> lasindi, maybe try reburning the CD?
[05:04] <chamunks> somsip, sorry I'm just happy to be close to a glueey solution for now :P
[05:05] <cub> could be a bad burn... i would think if should still run if you were presented with the menu, the "check disc for errors" should run.
[05:05] <somsip> chamunks: no worries
[05:05] <cub> as it doesnt boot into any graphical mode for that
[05:06] <folorn> could someone point me in the right direction of a good web camera application besides cheese ...it just don't seem to wanna ever load, so any recommendations would be most helpful please.
[05:07] <HowdyDoody> I am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"
[05:07] <patriotpie> !give folorn g camorama
[05:07]  * LaRock gives folorn a rugby ball
[05:07] <Dmnchild> How does one stop a process that does not want to be stopped? For lack of finding the correct command for it, I tried to kill via processes, and it still won't let me (rtorrent)
[05:08] <patriotpie> google.com/?q=camorama
[05:08] <bashinate> folorn: vlc can capture webcam
[05:08] <seeqwell> https://paterva.com/web6/community/maltego/ is it just me or is this a bad site to enter?
[05:08] <seeqwell> maltego
[05:09] <asilhouette> Dmnchild: did you try killall
[05:09] <bashinate> killall the things
[05:09] <asilhouette> !killall
[05:10] <folorn> any ideas on what i could get ...anyone?
[05:10] <Dmnchild> What would correct usage be of killall?
[05:11] <somsip> Dmnchild: man killall
[05:11] <seeqwell> anyone?  check it is it just me? https://paterva.com/web6/community/maltego/
[05:11] <somsip> seeqwell: use http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[05:11] <zygoptera> Dmnchild; a system shutdown will kill all processes that can be killed
[05:12] <Dmnchild> Well, I'm trying to edit a file and I can not, so assuming its being locked by the program it pertains to.
[05:12] <seeqwell> im not talking about being down somsip I'm talking about a cert issue
[05:12] <somsip> seeqwell: you're asking people to check a possibly compromised site for you? Think about this for a moment...
[05:13] <seeqwell> I didn't say enter the site
[05:13] <lasindi> cub, I'll give it a shot. I'm going to run an md5sum on the DVD
[05:13] <bashinate> seeqwell: yes, it has a warning
[05:13] <seeqwell> im asking is it me or does everyone else see that its a bad site could be my proxy yanno
[05:13] <cub> yes that would be a good idea
[05:13] <seeqwell> ok bashinate thanks
[05:13] <cub> sometimes it's just a bad burn, had this happen a few times
[05:13] <bashinate> now stop phishing :)
[05:13] <cfhowlett> downforeveryoneorjustme.com is a useful site ...
[05:13] <cub> when in doubt, use a new DVD (preferably something not rw) and try aain
[05:14] <asilhouette> Dmnchild: may be the file needs sudo to edit
[05:14] <bashinate> dmnchild: how are you trying to edit the file ?
[05:15] <Dmnchild> textedit via guy losin. currently as the root.
[05:15] <Dmnchild> erm damn auto corrent
[05:15] <Dmnchild> gui login
[05:16] <bashinate> as long as your running it was root that should be fine
[05:16] <asilhouette> can you paste the command you are trying Dmnchild
[05:16] <blindingdawn> Is there anyway to address more than one bluetooth HCI at the same time?
[05:16] <folorn> hmm so no ideas?
[05:17] <Dmnchild> Hm, think I got it to work. didn't kick back an error with sudo nano in terminal
[05:19] <Dmnchild> Yep worked. I need to just learn more of all the commands so i can keep to the SSH login instead of remote desktop ;p
[05:22] <tokie> so, i'm new to ubuntu, what are some things i will need to know?
[05:23] <cfhowlett> tokie, *gently* How to ask a question to get specific information?
[05:23] <zygoptera> tokie >> that ubuntu has built-in spyware
[05:24] <tokie> i'm using backbox 3
[05:24] <cfhowlett> tokie, not supported here.  sorry.
[05:24] <DWSR> What's the easiest way to remove all but the most recent version of the kernel?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> DWSR, I think you can do that in the software center ...
[05:25] <DWSR> cfhowlett: No Unity.
[05:25] <cfhowlett> DWSR, USS doesn't require unity ...
[05:26] <DWSR> cfhowlett: What I meant was, no GUI.
[05:26] <DWSR> I have no X.
[05:26] <cfhowlett> DWSR, what desktop environment are you using?
[05:26] <DWSR> I'm not.
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> DWSR, command line?
[05:26] <DWSR> TheLordOfTime: Yes.
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> cfhowlett, ^
[05:26] <tokie> why is it not supported here?
[05:26] <kouriinu> is there a chat room i can get help with wine or playonlinux ?
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> DWSR, you'd need to get a list of what kernels you have installed firstly.
[05:26] <TheLordOfTime> DWSR, i don't know the command offhand to do that in the command line
[05:26] <DWSR> kouriinu: Wine has an IRC channel.
[05:27] <TheLordOfTime> DWSR, once you have that list, you can sudo apt-get remove [packages]
[05:27] <somsip> DWSR: dpkg --get_selections | grep linux
[05:27] <somsip> *--get-selections
[05:27] <kouriinu> is it #wine?
[05:27] <TheLordOfTime> just don't remove the latest kernel packages ;)
[05:27] <DWSR> somsip: That's to just get a list of kernels?
[05:27] <somsip> DWSR: source and headers and kernels. The often come in sets
[05:28] <kouriinu> or does anyone know how to get to the wine channel
[05:28] <zykotick9> kouriinu: /join #winehq
[05:28] <somsip> DWSR: then uname -r, and remove any taht aren't the same. With care :)
[05:29] <DWSR> I have a kernel that's older than the latest installed on my system.
[05:29] <DWSR> herp
[05:29] <kouriinu> there is no one in there
[05:29] <DWSR> s/have/am using/
[05:29] <kouriinu> is there a place with someone in it
[05:30] <DWSR> kouriinu: http://www.winehq.org/irc
[05:30] <DWSR> kouriinu: There is definitely people in there at the moment.
[05:30] <somsip> DWSR: law of diminishing returns. If you don't need to remove it, it's not doing any harm. Otherwise just sudo apt-get remove linux-image-{package number}
[05:30] <DWSR> somsip: Freeing up disk space.
[05:31] <kouriinu> i will do my best to get in there
[05:31] <malkauns> ;;ticker
[05:32] <somsip> DWSR: if you're that low on space, you may need to do more. sudo apt-get clean can often give a big immediate and safe freeing up of space
[05:32] <DWSR> somsip: Already working on it.
[05:33] <speed> hai
[05:33] <somsip> DWSR: locales too
[05:33] <DWSR> yea
[05:33] <speed> i am havving a problem with gnome
[05:33] <DWSR> It's a server, so I'm planning to strip everything down to essentials.
[05:33] <DWSR> any other kernels?
[05:33] <Guest94090> oops
[05:33] <somsip> DWSR: you know what you've got on there...
[05:34] <DWSR> somsip: Are there any other kernels in the repos with different tunings?
[05:34] <somsip> DWSR: have you brought the server up to date before you start doing all of this?
[05:34] <DWSR> somsip: Yes./
[05:34] <DWSR> did dist-upgrade.
[05:34] <Guest94090> did i say gnome, i ment to say grub
[05:34] <somsip> DWSR: so you should have the most up to date kernel. *Should*
[05:34] <Guest94090> grub isnt showing windows 7 for me
[05:35] <DWSR> somsip: Meh, haven't restarted the server yet.
[05:35] <DWSR> So probalby just waiting for that
[05:36] <Guest94090> nevermind
[05:36] <Guest94090> i found what to do
[05:36] <Guest94090> i feel dumb bow
[05:36] <Guest94090> now*
[05:37] <shiv> hey
[05:38] <gnomefreak> hi
[05:39] <gnomefreak> nice and quiet in here tonight
[05:44] <kouriinu> yeah no i cant get into the winehq irc
[05:45] <DWSR> Then you're doing something wrong.
[05:45] <DWSR> It works just fine.
[05:47] <IveBeenBit> Can anyone tell me how to rig it so the screen scrolls faster when I use the mouse wheel?
[05:47] <bravis>  /plugins
[05:48] <kouriinu> my server comes up with an error
[05:49] <xrs> IveBeenBit,  go into launcher -> settings -> settings manager -> Mouse and touchpad (make sure your adjusting the correct mouse)
[05:49] <kouriinu> nope
[05:49] <kouriinu> if i could id show you a screen shot
[05:49] <doan> Hello, does anyone know a way to keep the aspect ratio in my games ? I wanna play in a fullscreen mode with a resolution of 800x600 and a 4:3 aspect ratio. But the only was I succeed to run the game in fullscreen  it's with the native resolution of my WIDESCREEN monitor.
[05:49] <kouriinu> it says no one is in here
[05:49] <kouriinu> so i dont know whats wrong
[05:49] <doan> running with 304.51 nVidia proprietary driver
[05:49] <IveBeenBit> xrs, Thanks, but there is no setting there for the mouse wheel. Maybe I need a new driver?
[05:50] <somsip> kouriinu: Channel #winehq created Sun Nov 26 13:42:43 2006
[05:50] <kouriinu> i know i have tried typing that in i am using mibbit
[05:50] <kouriinu> when i click on it it makes me choose mibbit and i click on it and it comes up and it says 1 person
[05:51] <somsip> kouriinu: what you're asking is not ubuntu related and I have no idea what mibbit is. And I don't want to know.
[05:52] <asilhouette> i'm having alot of FC's on my software center relating to xbin/aptd. any help?
[05:56] <tripelb> Problem: i want a dualboot of windows and ubuntu, actually lubuntu. --- I have an old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled windows after a problem that led to a grub recovery> prompt. and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. 
[05:56] <DWSR> Is server and desktop kernel the same still?
[05:57] <somsip> DWSR: yes
[05:57] <tripelb> Problem: i want a dualboot of windows and ubuntu, actually lubuntu. --- I have an old dell and a windows disk for xp that says for computers that already have windows so I reinstalled windows after a problem that led to a grub recovery> prompt. and it looks like it worked BUT... It left the Ubuntu partition and now the Ubuntu disk LiveCD cannot see any operating systems on the disk.  At first it just booted into windows. Now I get a choice. 
[05:57] <DWSR> What flavours of the ubuntu kernel are there? I see generic and lowlatency.
[05:57] <Ben64> !patience | tripelb
[05:57] <tripelb> Corrected.
[05:58] <osirisx11> hi all, how can i start an openvpn connection after my wifi connects?
[05:58] <tripelb> Thanks Ben. I saw an error I needed to fix.
[05:59] <tripelb> Ben64 from tripelb44
[05:59] <Ben64> tripelb: you posted the same thing twice
[06:03] <xrs> tripelb,  i already told you what to do. use a live disk to boot the machine and remove the ubuntu partition and resize the windows partition with gparted. then use a windows disk to boot the machine and run windows boot repair
[06:05] <xrs> tripelb,  http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/startup-repair
[06:07] <Kaedalus> Hello.
[06:07] <Kaedalus> Is anyone there?
[06:07] <xrs> yes
[06:08] <Kaedalus> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on VirtualBox, trying to use GIMX to emulate my Sixaxis on my PS3
[06:08] <Kaedalus> The host is a Windows 7 64-bit computer. I'm trying to make the virtual machine use the bluetooth dongle.
[06:09] <xrs> yup. you have more money than i do sorry.   all i can do is google for you
[06:09] <xrs> do you have bluman installed?
[06:09] <|nv|s|b|e> lol
[06:09] <Kaedalus> Oh, I just have one question...
[06:09] <Kaedalus> On the top bar
[06:10] <Kaedalus> It shows the bluetooth symbol - and it says it's turned on. You can turn it on and off there, by the dropdown menu, but if you access the actual Bluetooth Configuration, it is always OFF and can't be turned ON.
[06:10] <Kaedalus> I can't find anything like that around - I may be a terrible googler though. x_x''
[06:11] <asilhouette> anybody help with Software Center FCs
[06:11] <xrs> well lets open a terminal window and type "lsusb -v"
[06:12] <xrs> that should tell us what chipset the bluetooth is, then we can google that
[06:12] <asilhouette> Software center doesn't open at all. it just pops up lots of submit error messages
[06:12] <Thorbinator> Seven_Six_Two: thanks for the help earlier, turns out I need more ram
[06:13] <Kaedalus> xrs, did it. That's... quite a lot of info.
[06:13] <xrs> asilhouette,  open a terminal window and run sudo apt-get remove software-center
[06:13] <Kaedalus> I made it visible already, and it is listed under the connected USB devices, and on the top it says
[06:13] <Kaedalus> Oops.
[06:13] <Kaedalus> Wrong paste.
[06:14] <xrs> !paste | Kaedalus
[06:14] <asilhouette> xrs i did a reinstall didn't work, update-manager is broken too
[06:14] <Kaedalus> Should I post it all?
[06:14] <xrs> if you cant tell what the chipset is, yeah paste it to pastebin and ill have a look
[06:15] <asilhouette> going to try synaptics complete removal and see how it goes
[06:15] <xrs> asilhouette,  do you have backups?
[06:16] <asilhouette> backups of?
[06:16] <stevo_> steam ported counter strike 1.6 to linux for anybody that is interested :)
[06:16] <Kaedalus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1579068/
[06:16] <xrs> your important data
[06:16] <asilhouette> i'm just going to remove software center, is that going to mess with the data
[06:17] <asilhouette> did you mean the software installed list
[06:17] <asilhouette> synaptic will have that won't it?
[06:18] <doan> stevo_, trying to run the game in 4:3 ratio resolution on a widescreen but I cant
[06:18] <doan> stevo_, can you ?
[06:18] <Ben64> why would you want black bars on the sides
[06:18] <stevo_> @doan , not sure i'll have to give it a try , i'm currently running it in window mode
[06:19] <xrs> Kaedalus,  my bad, the -v switch was unnessesary. lets run just lsusb without the -v
[06:19] <Kaedalus> Okay.
[06:20] <cfhowlett> stevo_, sadly, steam beta won't see my internet connection, so non-usable
[06:20] <Kaedalus> xrs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1579072/ There you go
[06:22] <doan> stevo_, in windowed mode it works. Try it with fullscreen mode please
[06:27] <xrs> Kaedalus,  this is what i have found out so far: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/992757
[06:27] <xrs> you should add yourself to the list of ppl affected
[06:28] <Kaedalus> Oh boy...
[06:28] <xrs> dealextreme claims it works out of the box
[06:28] <Kaedalus> I see...
[06:28] <Kaedalus> Thanks for the help.
[06:29] <Kaedalus> As it worked on LinuxMint, I thought it'd work on Ubuntu, heh.
[06:29] <Ben64> but its a vm
[06:29] <Kaedalus> I tried some things before moving to a VM.
[06:30] <xrs> yeah changing back over to mint would probably be cheaper than buying a new bluetooth dongle
[06:30] <dr_willis> Weird that a BT dongle dosent work on the same kernel on differnt disrtos.
[06:30] <dr_willis> Unless theres just some patch thats working its way down the line
[06:31] <Kaedalus> Thanks again guys.
[06:31] <Kaedalus> I guess I'll rent the game for another day - no time to download and set mint up now.
[06:31] <Kaedalus> Thank you very much for your help!!
[06:31] <xrs> np
[06:31] <Kaedalus> Good night to y'all. (:
[06:32] <xrs> gnight'
[06:33] <STSwm> hello
[06:33] <dr_willis> jello
[06:48] <folorn> hmm
[06:48] <folorn> ive got my screen recorder working but cheese still wont work anyone up for helping some?
[06:50] <waqarr> hello
[06:51] <zxz> hi
[06:51] <waqarr> need a help about ubuntu
[06:51] <cfhowlett> waqarr, greetings
[06:51] <waqarr> anybody support me
[06:51] <cfhowlett> waqarr, ask with details
[06:52] <waqarr> i have a samsung galaxy s2 i want to install ubuntu phone in my samsung i like this OS
[06:52] <dr_willis> from what ive seen.. if a webcam dont work with cheese.. it tends to be totally unsupported by linux. But theres always new kernel updates that may add support later.
[06:52] <dr_willis> waqarr:  last i looked theres no official ubuntu-phone os to install.
[06:52] <cfhowlett> !phone|waqarr,
[06:52] <dr_willis> waqarr:  just those vm/chroot/vnc things in teh market place
[06:53] <cfhowlett> waqarr, an ISO for phone is supposedly coming out next month.  check in the #ubuntu-phone forum
[06:53] <waqarr> is there any posibility to install ubuntu phone into my phone.
[06:53] <waqarr> just for testing
[06:53] <dr_willis> waqarr:  last i looked theres no official ubuntu-phone os to install.  yet
[06:53] <dr_willis> so thats a NO at this time
[06:53] <zxz> there is no official relise
[06:53] <waqarr> when it will release for public...
[06:54] <waqarr> ?
[06:54] <cfhowlett> waqarr, ask in the other channel!  #ubuntu-phone
[06:54] <dr_willis> we DONT know
[06:54] <zxz> we are waiting..
[06:54] <dr_willis> and i imagine when its released it will be for VERY specific phones at the start
[06:54] <tripelb> xrs: thanks
[06:55] <kostkon> folorn, try guvcview
[06:55] <cfhowlett> dr_jesus, exactomundo!
[06:55] <zxz> irc chat is very cool
[06:55] <zxz> learn new things
[06:56] <tripelb> Do you know how I can connect with the ubuntu-on-the-nexus-7 community? Because I am not going to do it till I get plugged in.
[06:56] <dr_willis> i really cant see much need for me for  the ubuntu phone. ;) all i do all day on my phone is IRC.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> zxz, have you a specific support question?
[06:56] <xrs> your be the digital master in no time
[06:56] <zxz> no
[06:56] <xrs> !ot
[06:56] <dr_willis> tripelb:  they hang in #ubuntu-arm i belive
[06:56] <cfhowlett> tripelb, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[06:57] <tripelb> zxz: welcome to IRC chat at freenode,. Outside of here lurk sexbots and evil wars and endless boring conversations. Of course YMMV.
[06:57] <zxz> tripelb: :D :D
[06:58] <tripelb> Thanks dr_willis I figured you might know.
[06:58] <tripelb> cfhowlett: will do.
[06:58] <dr_willis> Been tempted to get a Nexus7.. but just hard to justify one for playing with Ubuntu on it. ;) Plus the kids will take it from me.
[06:59] <tripelb> Next step, root.
[07:00] <zxz> is there any possible way to get this chat for sybian
[07:01] <kostkon> zxz, offtopic question. but, yes, there are irc clients for symbian, just google.
[07:01] <zxz> kostkon: tnx
[07:03] <zxz> is it possible to run ubuntu with 198mb ram ?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> zxz, don't think so.  I think 500 m is the minimum requireement
[07:04] <dr_willis> zxz:  perhaps lubuntu may work.. but it would be tight
[07:04] <zxz> actually i tried and it load the X but only..
[07:04] <dr_willis> and getting any real work done. would  be painfull
[07:04] <zxz> and doesnt respond
[07:05] <zxz> pff my cat
[07:06] <zxz> is there any way to write camera driver on ubuntu ?
[07:08] <kostkon> zxz, if you know c and know or willing to learn how to write linux device drivers, then yes
[07:08] <xrs> it is possible to run with 198 ram if you have swap space, the computer will be swapping at all times and it will be unbearably slow, but yes it will boot and yes it will run apps
[07:08] <zxz> i know asembly so
[07:08] <zxz> where is driver placed ?
[07:09] <JammoBlammo> C:\pagefile.sys
[07:09] <xrs> not helpful
[07:09] <zxz> what ?
[07:10] <Capneon> Hi
[07:12] <dr_willis> I belive most all of the webcam drivers for linux are written by a small group of people (2-3?)  Its aparently not a trivial thing. ;)
[07:12] <zxz> mhm
[07:25] <thurston> Good day. I am running 12.10; each time I log back into my laptop I find that I always have to re-authenticate my wifi settings. Is there anyway to do this once and to have these stored?
[07:25] <zykotick9> thurston: are you using autologin?
[07:26] <thurston> zykotick9: No. I prefer to always type my password
[07:27] <zykotick9> thurston: odd.  sorry don't know then.
[07:28] <thurston> zykotick9: Thanks buddy!
[07:29] <dr_willis> it definatly rembers here on 12.10
[07:29] <dr_willis> You havent disabled the gnome-keyring?
[07:29] <dr_willis> I seem to recall a check box or setting in network manager also for 'allow users, or all users' or somthing like that also.
[07:31] <cfhowlett> dr_willis, I think that's a user permission setting
[07:31] <mistere> hello.. i need the help about file sharing
[07:31] <mistere> anyone help me
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> !ask
[07:31] <dr_willis> yea. ive never had to mess with it. it defaintly rembers and auto connects to my wireless network on power up.  user dosent even need to login here.
[07:32] <dr_willis> mistere:  give us some details and see who can help
[07:32] <mistere> when i sharing files between both ubuntu 12.04 a password section show. i enter password again and again but the password show again and again
[07:33] <dr_willis> shareing how exactly.
[07:33] <mistere> file sharing
[07:33] <dr_willis> and if you are using samba, you did give the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'  ?
[07:33] <anthony__> i need help putting a making a
[07:33] <mistere> file sharing between laptop and pc
[07:33] <anthony__> sory. hit enter too soon
[07:33] <dr_willis> 'file shareing' can be done a dozen ways.. ;)
[07:34] <mistere> dr_willis, when i enter this command then show error"Failed to add entry for user **"
[07:35] <dr_willis> mistere:  what command did you use exactly?
[07:35] <anthony__> i need help making a bootable usb with ubuntu 11.10 on it. i am using my brothers windows laptop. i used the pendrive linux program that ubuntus website said too. t my computer just wont boot it
[07:36] <dr_willis> anthony__:  the pendrivelinux site has a dozen differnt tools you could try.  test the pendrive out on  other pcs if you can. it may be a pc issue. not a pendrive issue
[07:36] <mistere> sudo smbpasswd -a user
[07:36] <dr_willis> mistere:  you DID use the proper username?
[07:36] <mistere> dr_willis, yes
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> anthony__: check if the BIOS supports usb boot aswell
[07:36] <dr_willis> No idea then. unless you got some goofy users
[07:36] <anthony__> i only have this laptop. and only for tonight. ill try out t
[07:37] <mistere> anthony__, check the boot sequnce
[07:38] <mistere> dr_willis, now what is the problem?
[07:39] <anthony__> well i booted from a usb before. i made that bootable by using the usb creator on ubuntu . it worked ok but im missing drivers on my ubuntu now. i thin its cause i did a downgrade from 12.10. 12.10 didnt work well on my computer because my  video card wasnt goood enough
[07:39] <dr_willis> mistere:  no idea. try making a guest share and see if it works. I normally just set up home shares for the users via editing the smb.conf file. you should be able to set a samba password however.
[07:39] <cfhowlett> anthony__, what do you have installed now?
[07:39] <dr_willis> Ive never seen the failed to add entry... error
[07:40] <BillyZane> hi
[07:40] <dr_willis> for a Ubuntu to Ubuntu shareing. you could set up sshfs also. or if you want to get fancy. setup nfs.
[07:40] <cfhowlett> BillyZane, greetings
[07:40] <dr_willis> the samba logs in /var/log/ may give a clue why the shares are failing also
[07:41] <BillyZane> hi cfhowlett
[07:41] <BillyZane> how's it going dr_jesus
[07:41] <BillyZane> err dr_willis
[07:41] <anthony__> right now i hve 11.10 on it. but i think im missing drivers because i cant onnect to the interet and i cant mount a usb. so im going to try installing it again but it not working well on the POS laptop
[07:41] <mistere> dr_willis, thanks i'll try myself
[07:41] <dr_willis> They really need to smarten up Tab Completion on irc clients to put the  nicks in order of who last chatted. ;)
[07:41] <cfhowlett> anthony__, 11.10 has only  a few months of life left.  Why not install the 12.04 Long Term Support version?
[07:42] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. What would be the best Ubuntu version for a computer newbie migrating from Windows? 12.04, or would the newer featureset in 12.10 be ideal? Keep in mind that it has nVidia hardware on it.
[07:42] <BillyZane> I have a question... i'm trying to install software that I have on a .iso file. I managed to mount the .iso file, but when i go in to the directory and type install , i get the error
[07:42] <mistere> anyone tell me how i install and config the XEN for virtualtion in Ubuntu
[07:42] <mistere> ?
[07:43] <dr_willis> !xen
[07:43] <anthony__> because 11.10 was my favorite. wat hppens when the support runs out though. does it just not get any more updates or does it "die"
[07:43] <dr_willis> !eol
[07:43] <dr_willis> it goes EOL. ;)
[07:44] <Mayazcherquoi> dr_willis: You seem knowledgeable. Care to answer my query? :)
[07:44] <ClientAlive> is there some plan for ubuntu to support secure boot? Is it supported in 12.04 now?
[07:44] <dr_willis> !11.10
[07:44] <cfhowlett> anthony__, zombie OS might be one way to picture it.
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !uefi|ClientAlive,
[07:44] <dr_willis> !oneriric
[07:45] <cfhowlett> !oneric
[07:45] <ClientAlive> cool. thx
[07:45] <dr_willis> factoids dont say when it goes EOL. ;)
[07:45] <Mayazcherquoi> :-/
[07:45] <anthony__> well ill probably go with 12.04 then. 11.10 and 12.04 were pretty similar. so i gues ill go with the lts of that. i still have the problem of booting it to my computer from my usb tho. lol
[07:45] <dr_willis> Mayazcherquoi:  depends on your needs. - you want latest stuff go latest.. you want long term support go LTS
[07:46] <Mayazcherquoi> dr_willis: I am trying to think from a usability stand point.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> anthony__, 12.04 will boot from USB but there are options ... PXE for one
[07:46] <dr_willis> Mayazcherquoi:  i doubt if it will matter much
[07:46] <Mayazcherquoi> Will a newbie-computer user, one that does not use social networks, benefit from an upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04?
[07:46] <anthony__> what do u mean?
[07:47] <Mayazcherquoi> anthony__: PXE boot == network boot.
[07:47] <dr_willis> Mayazcherquoi:  newer software and updated features in what you do use..
[07:47] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, IMHO, no.
[07:47] <Mayazcherquoi> cfhowlett: Okay. Thank you.
[07:47] <kostkon> Mayazcherquoi, not really. go with 12.04. 5 years of support.
[07:47] <dr_willis> so it depends on what you DO. not what you 'dont do'
[07:47] <anthony__> o. well my omputer wont connect to my network. so thats probly outts the questiin lol
[07:47] <Mayazcherquoi> I have also read that trouble is encountered whilst trying to install nVidia drivers in 12.10. Is this also the case for 12.04?
[07:48] <kostkon> Mayazcherquoi, ?
[07:48] <dr_willis> Mayazcherquoi:  it can depend on the exact nvidia chipset
[07:48] <dr_willis> i have very few issues with nvidia on any of the last 5+ releases
[07:48] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, not much difference between Nvidia on 12.04 and 12.10
[07:48] <Mayazcherquoi> dr_willis: Browse the web, look at YouTube, edit word documents.
[07:48] <dr_willis> Mayazcherquoi:  libreoffice will be newer in 12.10 if thats imporntant to you
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi,  or you can install libreoffice in 12.04
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> is there a ubuntu rolling release version?
[07:49] <Mayazcherquoi> dr_willis: Okay. From your expert opinion, if you were in position, which direction would you go (Latest stable, or LTS)?
[07:49] <dr_willis> aeon-ltd:  no there is not.
[07:49] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, no.
[07:49] <Mayazcherquoi> aeon-ltd: No.
[07:49] <dr_willis> Mayazcherquoi:  i never stick with LTS. i dont see much point in it for a home user.
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> seems it would benefit those who don't like large changes to their distro
[07:50] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay. Thank you.
[07:50] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, then they should just use LTS
[07:50] <dr_willis> aeon-ltd:  and be a detriment when you update and some app stops working.. till the next weeks updates.. ;)
[07:51] <Mayazcherquoi> Would it be possible to somehow tune Ubuntu to use the latest PPA for software such as LibreOffice, and say Firefox?
[07:51] <BillyZane> dr_willis: why do i have to type ./install to run the install file?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, sure
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !ppa|Mayazcherquoi, sure
[07:51] <Mayazcherquoi> cfhowlett: Would I have to change the PPA to another, or later version?
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, You mean after upgrading to a new ubuntu?
[07:52] <Mayazcherquoi> No. Whilst in 12.04
[07:52] <Mayazcherquoi> Instead of only getting security fixes
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, you can add ppa and as those ppa's get updated, you can update them as well.
[07:53] <megha> can some ome highligh me ?
[07:53] <Mayazcherquoi> Okay, cheers.
[07:53] <Mayazcherquoi> :)
[07:53] <Mayazcherquoi> cfhowlett: Oh, hang on. One last question.
[07:53] <helmut_> hi
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, go ahead
[07:53] <Mayazcherquoi> I read that 12.10 ships with a nicer GRUB interface. Any way to get this backported to 12.04?
[07:54] <Mayazcherquoi> (I am just thinking for simplicity sake)
[07:54] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, enable backports in your software center and it might come down.  or you can manually/carefully edit your grub interface
[07:54] <mizz> Hello PPL on IRC
[07:54] <Mayazcherquoi> cfhowlett: Okay, ta.
[07:54] <awisepilot> I am having problem ssh to a new KVM I setup with a static IP
[07:54] <Mayazcherquoi> cfhowlett: Ta :-)
[07:55] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, although for an interface that you'll view for only a few seconds per use ...
[07:55] <cfhowlett> mizz, greetings.
[07:55] <Mayazcherquoi> cfhowlett: I dunno. I'm just thinking in case an accident happens, and whatnot.
[07:55] <awisepilot> How do I SSH to a new KVM guest?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> Mayazcherquoi, noted
[07:56] <ClientAlive> ok, deleting the partitions and starting fresh sounded like a good way to go for me. I did that. Can anyone recommend a new partition layout? Do I need more than one massive formatted space considering Ubuntu to be installed after this too?
[07:56] <awisepilot> virst list --all shows it running
[07:56] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, depends on your arrangement.  Ubuntu only on this machine?
[07:56] <curseorange> i just deleted like 40gb of stuff... but when i look at my available space it hasnt changed, any ideas?
[07:56] <saju_m> Could you please check this and suggest a solution http://dpaste.com/894987/
[07:56] <ClientAlive> I want a dual boot system with this win 8 pro and Ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[07:57] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, ah.  I've got to bail out.  Have no experience with win8 but it seems not to play well with others ...
[07:57] <xrs> saju_m,  what is your desired outcome?
[07:57] <awisepilot> Anyone familar with KVM guest on 12.04 server?
[07:57] <ClientAlive> I guess what I'm thinking about is the efi partition but don't know much about how that works (if it's separate unto itself or not)
[07:57] <BillyZane> i'm trying to install software on ubuntu from an iso. I want to install it to /usr/local/MATLAB/R2012b/ , however, it says permission denied to create folder. I created the folder with mkdir manually, so the foldiers exist, but I still get a permission error. What should I do to give it super user access?
[07:58] <ClientAlive> do I need to create a separate efi partition?
[07:58] <mistere> anyone?
[07:58] <mistere> anyone tell me how i install and config the XEN for virtualtion in Ubuntu?
[07:59] <awisepilot> Doesnt appear anyone knows VM
 I waht to check proxy server authentication without browser
[07:59] <awisepilot> I have a problem with VM using KVM
[07:59] <curseorange> i just deleted like 40gb of stuff... but when i look at my available space it hasnt changed, any ideas?
[07:59] <awisepilot> virst, qemu
[07:59] <cfhowlett> curseorange, empty your trash
[07:59] <awisepilot> its in your trash
[07:59] <curseorange> my trash is empty cfhowlett
[08:00] <awisepilot> try temp files
[08:00] <curseorange> wheres that?
[08:00] <mizz> wipe your free space
[08:00] <cfhowlett> curseorange, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
 I tried $ squidclient -h 192.168.1.6 -u saju -w saju
 but getting error ,   <p>The following error was encountered while trying to retrieve the URL: <a href="saju">saju</a></p>
[08:01] <zykotick9> awisepilot: are you sure your static ip is valid/working?  is it in the same network as your host?  by default i'd guess your kvm is using NAT.
[08:01] <mistere> awisepilot, use "sudo apt-get purge filename "
[08:02] <mistere> saju_m, use <a href="#">saju</a>
 i can't edit that
 see http://dpaste.com/895029/
[08:04] <awisepilot> zykotick9 - br0 is 192.168.2.178, bcast 192.168.2.255, net 192.168.2.0, mask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.2.1, eth0 is physical interface, guest kvm is vnet0, virbr0 is 192.168.122.1
[08:05] <dr_willis> BillyZane:  to write to system directories you will need to run the installer as root via sudo
[08:05] <zykotick9> awisepilot: wow, that looks pretty valid.  are you sure network-manager isn't messing with things?  does your eth0 have an ip currently (it shouldn't btw)?
[08:05] <dr_willis> BillyZane:  it may be safer to let the user install it in their own home directory
[08:08] <NewUser_> how can i know my ipv6 range?
[08:08] <zykotick9> awisepilot: oh, how are you starting your vm?  try with sudo.
[08:09] <awisepilot> Here is my vmbuilder script - http://pastebin.com/phEG9x6t
[08:10] <zykotick9> awisepilot: i've never used vmbuilder before... and don't visit pastebin.com.  so best of luck.
[08:11] <levo> what's the most fancy style?
[08:11] <levo> gnome, xfce ,  unity?
[08:11] <levo> or any other one/
[08:11] <levo> fancy desktop
[08:11] <cfhowlett> levo, style?  you mean desktop environment?
[08:11] <levo> yes
[08:12] <cfhowlett> levo all are adaptable and customizable.  Install them on your box for free and see
[08:12] <cfhowlett> levo, and don't forget lxde
[08:12] <levo> how is it?
[08:13] <cfhowlett> levo, sudo apt-get install lxde
[08:13] <levo> if i install it , can i use my previous desktop as well?
[08:13] <xrs> xfce is better
[08:13] <xrs> yes
[08:13] <levo> i'm looking for a pretty one
[08:13] <cfhowlett> levo, yes.  when you logout you can choose which to use
[08:13] <levo> unity isn't flexible
[08:14] <levo> i'm using 12.04
[08:14] <xrs> kde has the most eye candy. xfce is the best
[08:14] <levo> what's the benefits of xfce ? and its difference with lxde?
[08:15] <xrs> kinda like mac vs windows
[08:15] <awisepilot> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot vmbuilder kvm that will not ssh to the new created running guest?
[08:15] <cfhowlett> levo, dude.  Just install and try them out for yourself and/or please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:15] <levo> ok
[08:15] <levo> thanx
[08:15] <cfhowlett> levhttp://travel.cnn.com/okinawa-restaurant-order-508481?hpt=hp_bn6
[08:15] <cfhowlett> .o, thank you
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> levo: a lot, xfce has a whole different set of apps, lxde is just openbox and lxpanel with some applications
[08:15]  * cfhowlett errr, please ignore that pasted link in the corner ...
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> ...
[08:16] <awisepilot> Is there a different channel for ubuntu virtual machine issues?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> awisepilot: no not that i am aware of
[08:17] <gnomefreak> awisepilot: just ask your question and if someone can answer it they will
[08:17] <awisepilot> I guess it must be a bad night.  I cann't find anyone that can help with my question.
[08:18] <awisepilot> I'll try one more time.
[08:18] <cfhowlett> awisepilot, volunteers are we.  not all knowing experts
[08:19] <awisepilot> Yes, I know and I appreciate the fact this is here.
[08:19] <aeon-ltd> awisepilot: if you haven't got any help for the last few days, just post on the forum. better than waiting here
[08:19] <cfhowlett> awisepilot, check the forums as well and maybe even #ubuntu-server
[08:20] <awisepilot> Let me try posting to the forum.
[08:23] <saju_m> I tried with diff options:  $ squidclient -h 192.168.1.6 -p 3128 -u saju -w saju http://www.python.org
[08:23] <saju_m> it giving error Sorry, you are not currently allowed to request http://www.python.org/ from this cache until you have authenticated yourself.
[08:23] <saju_m> see http://dpaste.com/895135/
[08:26] <RAcEBOT> i forgot the wireless password for my router so i ran a  wirelesspasswordviewer program and the  password show up as "abc899823dae3289489de8293982aa832923a" : why is it showing like this
[08:27] <cfhowlett> RAcEBOT, not an ubuntu question.  sorry
[08:27] <aeon-ltd> hash
[08:27] <kristian-aalborg> cheers
[08:27] <cfhowlett> kristian-aalborg, greetings
[08:28] <xrs> RAcEBOT,  https://www.trustedsec.com/downloads/social-engineer-toolkit/
[08:28] <RAcEBOT> wrs that website does not help me
[08:28] <kristian-aalborg> I just had a scare... My box booted and performed a disk check... which is okay, of course... but THEN it rebooted and gave me a text grub
[08:28] <cfhowlett> kristian-aalborg, and ... ?
[08:28] <kristian-aalborg> I just started the usual flavor, and it booted as usual (but a bit slower)
[08:29] <xrs> RAcEBOT,  no but the ISO you download from there has everything you've been asking for and more all night. you would have had this done by now had you tried it.
[08:29] <aeon-ltd> RAcEBOT: the easiest way, would be to just plug into your router with eth then go to it's ip and look it up
[08:29] <kristian-aalborg> the machine should not reboot after a disk check!
[08:29] <cfhowlett> kristian-aalborg, NO reboot at all?
[08:30] <kristian-aalborg> cfhowlett, it should just resume the boot after the check, I believe?
[08:30] <cfhowlett> kristian-aalborg, that is the normal behavior..  If not, do a hard reboot
[08:31] <red82> wow, big channel
[08:31] <kristian-aalborg> cfhowlett, ah, I'm relieved now
[08:31] <yellabs-r2> ah i already found the answer ..
[08:31] <yellabs-r2> :P
[08:32] <dr_willis> actually ive seen 3000+ on here on release day
[08:32] <kristian-aalborg> I forgot that... I was thinking my box was in trouble
[08:32] <kristian-aalborg> OVER THREE THOUSAND
[08:32] <gnomefreak> no just lots of people in a room that is about 8' by 8'
[08:32] <yellabs-r2> and how many people use the internet ?
[08:32] <yellabs-r2> a bit more.. LOL
[08:32] <dr_willis> yellabs-r2:  its all cats...
[08:33] <yellabs-r2> and mouse
[08:33] <yellabs-r2> :)
[08:33] <dogears> Just did a clean install with 12.10 but my old /home will not logon. Just returns to the login screen?
[08:34] <cfhowlett> dogears, no error message?
[08:34] <dr_willis> dogears:  try the console login
[08:34] <dogears> dr_willis: can login by the console
[08:34] <dr_willis> try cleaning out some of your old settings. and check ownership of the .xauthority file (i think thats the name)
[08:35] <dogears> cfhowlett: no error message. a flash of text in the top corner then back to the login page
[08:36] <dogears> dr_willis: I had a problem with NX server prior to killing the old install and have not been able to logon since.
[08:37] <Salman18> Hello everyone
[08:37] <dogears> dr_willis: Can I just delete any reference to NX server?
[08:37] <dr_willis> you could make a new user - see if eveyrthing works with them
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Salman18, greetings
[08:37] <dr_willis> Ive never used nx. so no idea on that.
[08:37] <Salman18> Greetings
[08:38] <dogears> dr_willis: Will start removing old settings and se if I can get in. Thanks
[08:39] <keelG> lol was that even  your suggestion dr_willis?
[08:39] <Salman18> How can I register
[08:40] <dr_willis> !register
[08:41] <Salman18> What can I type
[08:42] <dr_willis>  type /join #freenode
[08:42] <dr_willis> and they will help you
[08:42] <Salman18> Ok
[08:42] <dr_willis> or read the url above and follow directions. ;)
[08:43] <saruji> hello, quick question or rather a problem, ubuntu software center comes up as a white page, nothing on it....
[08:43] <saruji> any ideas for a resolve
[08:43] <saruji> thank you
[08:43] <Salman18> Done register
[08:44] <dr_willis> try a  update and upgrade via the command line. and restart softeare center perhaps saruji  it may  straighten it out
[08:44] <Salman18> This is channel for which
[08:44] <Ademan> dist-upgrade -ing from 10.04 to 12.04, I don't consider it particularly promising that a dialog popped up where every character was an empty square (not even the kind of square where it has the character code in it...)
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Salman18, this channel for ubuntu
[08:44] <saruji> dr_willis, what command do i use?  just sudo apt-get update?
[08:44] <Ademan> at least the machine I'm upgrading is no longer my main machine...
[08:44] <dr_willis> saruji:  yes. then sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:45] <cfhowlett> Ademan, better to download the iso via torrent and do a clean install ... IMHO
[08:45] <Salman18> Ubunt mean?
[08:45] <Salman18> For computers
[08:45] <Ademan> cfhowlett: yeah, I keep being bitten by bad dist upgrades, but I keep doing it :-/
[08:45] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu|Salman18,
[08:45] <zykotick9> Ademan: that's not what dist-upgrade does...  see "/msg ubottu dist-upgrade" for details on what it actually is
[08:46] <cfhowlett> Ademan, switch to LTS only and do clean dist upgrades only every 2 years ...
[08:46] <Salman18> !ok
[08:46] <Ademan> zykotick9: not literally doing apt-get dist-upgrade, using the update-manager
[08:46] <Salman18> 😂
[08:46] <Salman18> Any problem please tell me
[08:46] <Ademan> cfhowlett: that's exactly what I'm doing, 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS hehe
[08:47] <Salman18> Mouse problem key problem please tell me
[08:47] <cfhowlett> Ademan, OK.  well, then, torrent away, make a usb and upgrade that distro!
[08:47] <dr_willis> Salman18:  give more details as to what you mwan.
[08:48] <saruji> dr_willis, did that now getting error "cd pandora && chmod +x setup.sh && ./setup.sh"
[08:48] <Salman18> My age 15 my name Salman
[08:48] <Ademan> zykotick9: btw you know you can !whatever > user to have ubottu PM people, right?
[08:48] <dr_willis> saruji:  Huh?   what does updateing the system have to do with Pandora?
[08:49] <Salman18> Windows 8
[08:49] <cfhowlett> Salman18, this channel is for #ubuntu ... not windows
[08:49] <ikonia> Salman18: do you have an issue/question about Ubuntu Linux ?
[08:49] <Salman18> ikonia: Yes
[08:50] <saruji> dr_willis, not sure, but i did this "cd pandora && chmod +x setup.sh && ./setup.sh" trying to install a pandora plugin for rythmbox
[08:50] <ikonia> Salman18: then please ask the question
[08:50] <Salman18> ikonia: Ok
[08:51] <Salman18> ikonia: ?
[08:51] <Salman18> ikonia: Please give me chat room
[08:51] <ikonia> Salman18: please ask your question, you are in the ubuntu chat room
[08:51] <folorn> how do i downgrade the file priveleges on a certain folder ?
[08:52] <Abhijit> folorn, chmod
[08:52] <dr_willis> !permissions | folorn
[08:52] <Salman18> Bÿé im leave
[08:52] <Salman18> I don't what this is going on
[08:53] <Bollsaq> Kdenlive crashes every time I click render. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10. Tried updating, ininstalling and reinstalling, no dice. Any suggestions?
[08:53] <dr_willis> Bollsaq:  run it from a terminal. look for error messages
[08:53] <Guest69964> I would like counsel on how to help someone who has Windows Vista.  I have Ubuntu 12.10.  She has checked the option to accept help
[08:53] <Ademan> does ubottu have a factoid for "if your native language is X go to #ubuntu-X etc..."
[08:53] <Guest69964> I would like to do that online
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Ademan, not that I've seen ...
[08:54] <ikonia> Ademan: yes
[08:54] <ikonia> Ademan: eg: french,
[08:54] <Bollsaq> dr_willis: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:54] <ikonia> !fr | Ademan
[08:55] <Ademan> ikonia: Sorry, I meant a generic one, !primary-language or something, that could direct people elsewhere when there seems to be a significant language barrier here
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !kdenlive|Bollsaq,
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Bollsaq, ask in #kdenlive
[08:56] <Bollsaq> cfhowlett: don't you think that was the first place I asked???
[08:56] <Ademan> basically an abridged version of !fr !de !cn etc compressed into one factoid
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Bollsaq, hey, uh, bollsaq?  attitude ...
[08:56] <Ademan> so you don't have to figure out what somebody's native language is before picking the factoid
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Bollsaq, you asked for help, I suggested a resource since no other help was offered ...
[08:57] <lhavelund> Ademan: Unnecessary. Additionally, this conversation is offtopic for this channel.
[08:57] <Bollsaq> cfhowlett: I had the impression you were giving me attitude, but thought the question here also was ok because its a slow chat atm
[08:58] <xwalk> Does anyone have any experience getting the Logitech C525 to function properly with Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Bollsaq, ok.  no worries.  Also, maybe a kdenlive user in #ubuntustudio might be able to help out.
[08:59] <Ademan> lhavelund: I disagree, as if there's an insurmountable language barrier, then communicating to them "what's your native language" is difficult in and of itself. As for the off-topicness here, I'll drop it beyond this comment.
[08:59] <nuxninja> hi
[08:59] <cfhowlett> nuxninja, greetings
[09:00] <Bollsaq> cfhowlett: ok thanks
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Bollsaq, I asked in #ubuntustudio but no response.  sorry
[09:01] <Bollsaq> cfhowlett: I think I'm gonna run a live session and save the files to where they're currently at and save the project file also and try again. if it works I'll just reinstall.
[09:01] <Bollsaq> cfhowlett: it would probably be faster that way anyhow.
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Bollsaq, save early, save often.  dropbox or ubuntuone ... just in case ...
[09:02] <sagaci> how does one create a wallpaper folder that rotates wallpapers automatically? There is a default setting that rotates the included wallpapers, but no options for user-created folders
[09:02] <nuxninja> cfhowlett, matey cheers
[09:03] <Bollsaq> cfhowlett: I'm seeing if I can save the files to the same usb the live iso is on.
[09:04] <dr_willis> sagaci:  there used to be a .xml file i recall that defined how they got rotated. i saw a script/tool ages ago on either omgubuntu or webupd8 that would generate such a .xml for you for a directory of images.
[09:04] <dr_willis> sagaci:  or just use some wallpaper changer app
[09:06] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/create-wallpaper-slideshow-with-xml.html
[09:07] <qasim> i can't play blue ray videos please anyone help how to get through this problem
[09:07] <jtrucks> has anyone gotten courier-authdaemon + cyrus saslauthd to work with postfix on 12.04?
[09:07] <nuxninja> qasim what gpu card u using........are u using vlc
[09:08] <cfhowlett> qasim, have you installed restricted-extras?
[09:08] <hax0rWGMB> nice one
[09:09] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[09:12] <codephobic> hi
[09:12] <cfhowlett> codephobic, greetings
[09:13] <codephobic> hi cfhowlett
[09:14] <nuxninja> hi codephobic
[09:15] <codephobic> I'm using Ubuntu 12.10 and I have an AMD/ATI Radeon HD 3000 on-board gfx chip. Is it possible to get the desktop cube working with this card? I read that the proprietary Catalyst driver (12.6), isn't compatible with the current X-Server and most articles seem to just advice waiting for AMD to do something in the future...
[09:15] <codephobic> hi nuxninja
[09:16] <nuxninja> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[09:17] <nuxninja> codephobic but have you tried the amdccc 12.6
[09:19] <codephobic> nuxninja, to be honest, I've stayed away from testing it out as I have had a few horrible issues with on-board gfx and proprietary drivers in linux (both debian squeeze and previous ubuntu had issues with my old nvidia drivers)
[09:19] <ls89> codephobic: They released catalyst 13.1 already.
[09:19] <codephobic> ls89, I was just at the AMD website, checked for the latest driver for my Radeon HD3000 series and it was 12.6
[09:19] <sagaci> dr_willis, thanks for the tip
[09:20] <ls89> codephobic: 13.1 is working with the current X-server from 12.10, but it currently fails to switch to the integrated card. So, you have to stick with the dedicated then.
[09:20] <nuxninja> codephobic nvidia has more problems than AMD on linux...i have been using amdccc for 4 years now.....no problems whatsoever.
[09:21] <nuxninja> 13.1 is not recommended for Radeon 3000 only 12.6 is sagaci
[09:21] <codephobic> nuxninja, I experienced some of those problems first hand, when I had to install the proprietary drivers to get access to Compiz in Debian and Ubuntu
[09:21] <ls89> Oh, just read HD3000  thought the intel one.
[09:21] <nuxninja> codephobic try it .... try and install amdccc 12.6..
[09:22] <codephobic> nuxninja, do you see any notable improvement in graphics speed and do you get the 3D cube stuff?
[09:22] <ls89> But the 13.1 is been released as legacy driver, too.
[09:22] <nuxninja> im using Radeon 6790 with 13.1 ......rock solid. codephobic
[09:23] <codephobic> nuxninja, yes but AMD's Catalyst is supposed to work okay with 5000 series and up
[09:23] <nuxninja> testing 650Ti with 310.19......works nicely but the usual black and white screens on compiz shift-switcher
[09:23] <codephobic> the problem is particular to the "legacy" devices of the 2000-4000 series
[09:23] <ixio2> guys whats the best way to get the AMD drivers installed, I have an A8 APU I also need sound to go out via HDMI. I have, in the past had issues with sound using FGLRX, I have had success with AMD propietry beta drivers, but they have a watermark/overlay.. its been a few months and this is my first 12.10 installation so looking for advise
[09:24] <nuxninja> No AMDccc 12.6 is for Radeon 3000
[09:24] <nuxninja> ixio2 same thing install amdccc 13.1 from amd.com website
[09:24] <nuxninja> hdmi only works with amdccc
[09:25] <nuxninja> codephobic you have problems and so do i with 12.10 then try use 12.04 its rock solid
[09:25] <codephobic> nuxninja, that's what seems to be the advice ... go back to 12.04 :(
[09:26] <ClientAlive> I'm begging an ubuntu install to make it a dual boot win 8/Ubuntu 12.04 system. At the "installation type" prompt (with the ubuntu install) it tells me: "This computer currently has no detected operating systems..." But win 8 is on here. What do I do?
[09:26] <qasim> please help me....i want  to play blue ray ripped MKV videos...but all i get choppy resolution and broken frames
[09:26] <codephobic> oh well, I'm going to have to have patience... either that or I'll buy a new graphics card :D
[09:26] <ClientAlive> *beginning*
[09:26] <dr_willis> qasim:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[09:27] <nuxninja> codephobic Radeon 3000 is pretty old but very strong for compiz ...
[09:27] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  desktop or laptop?
[09:27] <ClientAlive> new lappy
[09:27] <SPYGAME> i've downloaded chrome .tar.gz 64 bit package from the site, how do i install it ?
[09:27] <nuxninja> if you must then wait for HD8850
[09:27] <qasim> dr_willis, i have already gone through that forum ...but couldnot find solution to my problem
[09:27] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  eww.. worse case scenerio ;)
[09:27] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: really?
[09:27] <ClientAlive> ha ha
[09:27] <nuxninja> qasim what graphics are u using
[09:27] <dr_willis> qasim:  you may wan tto check at askubuntu.com
[09:28] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:   new cutting edge hardware.. new cuttine edge os that came out after 12.04 was released... :) Yes
[09:28] <ixio2> nuxninja: do I click on "latest beta driver" I dont see anything else linux related on their site ?
[09:28] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  its possible 12.10 or 13.04 may be smarter. but i dont plan on buying a laptop with win8 any time soon
[09:28] <SPYGAME> dr_willis, i've downloaded chrome .tar.gz 64 bit package from the site, how do i install it ?
[09:28] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: hmm... Well I'm familiar with partitioning and all that but I don't want to whipe out the win 8 partition if it isn't recognized.
[09:28] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  gotten where when i do buy a laptop. i buy a  new HD for it just for linux. ;)
[09:29] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  then i clone or put the original hd somewhere safe. ;)
[09:29] <nuxninja> NO ixio2 download for APU .....check website correctly it will guide you
[09:29] <qasim> nuxninja, im using standard xubuntu 12.10 graphics, though my graphics card is nvedia ge force 6400 but im not using its driver
[09:29] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I see.
[09:29] <codephobic> ClientAlive, I find that if grub doesn't locate an OS at install time, I can still work it either by using Windows bootloader or by updating grub using "apt-get install grub2; update-grub"
[09:29] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  last laptop i had.. suprised me.. it had spots for 2 hds ;)
[09:29] <ixio2> nuxninja "embedded graphics" ?
[09:29] <dr_willis> it also weighed like 16 lbs.. ;)
[09:30] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: mine does
[09:30] <ClientAlive> dr_willis:  well I don't really want a non lts relase so I'd like to find a soln
[09:30] <nuxninja> qasim download from nvidia.com graphics for linux
[09:30] <codephobic> nuxninja, sadly that "rock-solid" is only good for previous Ubuntu versions
[09:30] <nuxninja> codephobic correct\
[09:30] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  try a gparted cd and see wht it says about the hd.
[09:30] <qasim> nuxninja, unfortunately i id that too on my previous xubuntu OS but it dint resolve the problem
[09:30] <prih> ciao
[09:30] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  be sure you got restore media made for windows
[09:30] <prih> !list
[09:30] <qasim> did that**
[09:30] <ClientAlive> can I somehow find out the measure of the existing partitions, tell this step in ubu to have me manually partition, then make it start the partitions after that measured distance?
[09:31] <dr_willis> prih:  do you list every channel you join? WHy?
[09:31] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: this sounds like a painfully long journey I'm in for
[09:31] <ikonia> ClientAlive: please try to rephrase your question
[09:31] <nuxninja> see howto install nvidia proprietary drivers on google search or askubuntu.com  ....you will have to install something like nvidia-swat.....check
[09:32] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  ;)  and on a new windows laptop - i find their 'make restore disk' apps seem to take 3+ hrs to make a 3 dvd set....
[09:32] <ixio2> man I dont get this.. of all the dropdowns the only one that sounds close to an APU is "embedded graphics", the  A8 has a AMD HD 5670.. this does not appear in the sub-menu after choosing embedded
[09:32] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  i would see what gparted says about your windows 8 setup.  the LTS version may never get the  updated kernel for full support of new laptops.. they are getting rather complex these days. ;)
[09:33] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: After selecting the option that lets me manually partition, I am seeing my existing partitions. I just want to be certain what I'm looking at before I go too far.
[09:33] <qasim> nuxninja, no i mean i had successfully installed nvedea graphics card and i changed my graphics settings from xserver to nvedea but it dint resolve the problem
[09:33] <qasim> installed nvedea graphics card driver*
[09:33] <ixio2> perhaps the A8 is not classed as an APU ?
[09:33] <nuxninja> ixio2 dekstop graphics-apu-follow ahead ;)
[09:33] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  you may want to ask in #windows what the partions are for. MS  and vendors have been dong weird stuff with disk partions in recent years
[09:33] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I see my efi partition and a partition it calls sda1 (which I think is where win 8 is).
[09:33] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: good idea
[09:34] <nuxninja> did you install something like swat qasim
[09:34] <dr_willis> between the special boot partion windows likes now.. and the efi partions.. i barely know what they all do.
[09:34] <qasim> im not sure
[09:34] <qasim> i dont know  what that is
[09:35] <ixio2> thanks nuxninja, depending on what page you access it from APU does or does not appear in the desktop list
[09:35] <ixio2> but found it now
[09:35] <nuxninja> it installs the proprietary drivers which disables the kernel driver .....then after that you have to install nvidia driver from site.....google search qasim
[09:35] <ixio2> :)
[09:36] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I can tell what 3 of the partitions are and it's expected it would be that (looks right). But there is a sda3 where it says "unknown" in the "used" column of the partition editor. 134 mb with no file format listed.
[09:36]  * nuxninja  drags ixio2 by the collar and throws him out
[09:36] <qasim> nuxninja, if you mean it helps installing the nvidea driver...then i did that i had to uninstall kernal driver i lost my display than i ran nvidea driver commands to install and set ...the driver was working properly
[09:36] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  may be a special boot partion. would be my guess
[09:37] <qasim> nuxninja, and it did disable the kernal(X server ) driver
[09:37] <Jay2001> Hi all
[09:37] <nuxninja> NO qasim no need to install ....there is no uninstall procedure
[09:37] <nuxninja> sorry qasim i mean nothing to uninstall
[09:38] <qasim> nuxninja, oh okay ..i better google what swat is
[09:38] <codephobic> I've got another question as well. I setup some custom keyboard shortcut keys (WinKey+Ctrl + 0-9) and I want to be able to export/import the shortcuts ... where/how do I find them on the system?
[09:39] <Jay2001> I has a question. I am having trouble getting Wi-Fi to work on a desktop. I have tried 2 adaptors (one USB, one PCI) with no luck and have upgraded the OS from 11.10 to 12.10 with still no success. Can anyone recomend a good PCI card I can go and buy that will just slot in, be detected and work with minimum (read 'no') effort.
[09:39] <nuxninja> nvidia swat....or better 'how to install nvidia proprietary drivers on ubuntu' --google search qasim
[09:39] <qasim> nuxninja, btw i mean i had to terminate the already running process when i said i uninstalled the kernal driver ..sorry
[09:39] <precy> Fuck you ubuntu
[09:39] <precy> :P
[09:39] <qasim> nuxninja, olrite thanks let me google it
[09:39] <dr_willis> Jay2001:  i tend to hit amazon.com and check their user reviews.. i picked up 3 differnt USB wifi dongles that work in ubuntu and linux with no hassles
[09:40] <precy> awsome ubuntu
[09:40] <precy> :D
[09:41] <ixio2> you guys know what the pre-reqs are to install the AMD propiertry driver ?
[09:42] <xrs> i havent been able to get the amd drivers working since 12.10
[09:43] <Jay2001> dr_willis: The issue there is that the USB adaptor I tried was listed as working but the manufacturer had changed chipset without changing model number so it no longer worked even though reviews said it did.
[09:43] <nuxninja> ixio2 from terminal : sudo  bash <amdccc 13.1...............>.xh
[09:44] <ixio2> nuxninja: I did ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run
[09:44] <nuxninja> Hallo DrManhattan how's the city doin?? :)
[09:44] <ixio2> is this not the right file ?
[09:44] <dr_willis> Jay2001:  seen that happen in the past with modems also.  of course i picked up 3-4 diffent usb dongles for under  $15 each. ;) one was $5 off amazon. so far they have all been plug and play on ubuntu. and even worked on some of my Linux based media players. an added bonus
[09:44] <nuxninja> like i said above ixio2.....use bash
[09:45] <ixio2> I thoguth I was using bash lol
[09:45] <dr_willis> ixio2:  if the file is not executable you do  'bash foo.run'  perhaps
[09:45] <ixio2> ok I did sudo bash ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-linux-x86.x86_64.run with the same result "Onoe or more tools required for instgallation cannot be found on the systme"
[09:45] <dr_willis> ixio2:  or sh foo.run        or chmod +x foo.run   then ./foo.run
[09:45] <ShapeShifter499> Hi
[09:45] <ixio2> I already chmod +x the file
[09:46] <nuxninja> qasim are you there  i got site to install http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-driver-31014-on-ubuntu.html
[09:46] <dr_willis> Nice.. it dosent say wht tools. ;)
[09:46] <keelG> Alfa networks are cheap and uses drivers which work OOB iirc
[09:46] <cricido> ciao a tutti
[09:46] <cricido> ragazzi come demone di posta che uso per ubuntu?
[09:46] <nuxninja> which 32 bit or 64 bit ixio2
[09:47] <ShapeShifter499> Vmware is looking for the kernel header files and I have then installed its just vmware can't find them, where do the kernel header files get installed to?
[09:47] <ShapeShifter499> *them
[09:47] <Ben64> Jay2001: www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=5338 or http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=8072
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !it|cricido,
[09:47] <cricido> i msorry
[09:48] <nuxninja> ixio2 remove ./
[09:48] <cricido> i have a question zimbra open souce  is free?
[09:48] <nuxninja> hi dhruvasagar
[09:49] <ShapeShifter499> I have ubuntu 12.10 64 bit installed
[09:50] <nuxninja> ShapeShifter499 search for vmware patch for ubuntu for  correct installation
[09:50] <Jay2001> Ben64: I'll keep that one in mind, thanks. A little irritating that the use UPS though since I am in the UK and I object to paying $32 to ship $25 in product!
[09:50] <cfhowlett> cricido, seems to be free.  check www.zimbra.com
[09:51] <cricido> ok
[09:51] <cfhowlett> cricido, http://zimbraopensource.com/
[09:51] <cricido> :)
[09:53] <ixio2> nuxninja same result with or without the ./
[09:53] <nuxninja> what error ixio2
[09:54] <minas> hi. At the top bar of my screen, some small rectangles appear and disappear rapidly: http://i46.tinypic.com/2zokh2g.png  Any idea how this can be fixed?
[09:54] <Ben64> Jay2001: oh uk
[09:54] <ixio2> nuxninja: its ok linux-headers is a dependency installed that and now its working
[09:55] <nuxninja> see ixio2 its all weeny problems
[09:55] <ixio2> theres no readme, no FAQ.. its pretty bad
[09:55] <nuxninja> Nvidia is worse ixio2
[09:56] <ixio2> with nvidia I just had to open the "propietry drivers" dialogue and tell it yeah ok I accept
[09:56] <ixio2> and it worked
[09:57] <nuxninja> no ixio2 that's for older drivers ....newer ones it hell
[09:57] <ShapeShifter499> nuxninja: what does the patch fix?  The issue where vmware can't find the kernel header files?
[09:57] <ixio2> oh.. been a while since I used nvidia
[09:57] <nuxninja> then ShapeShifter499 install kernel-headers ....i had problem with workstation 9 and got fixed by vmware-patch
[09:58] <ShapeShifter499> I have them installed I just need to point vmware to their location which I don't know
[09:58] <nuxninja> ok
[09:59] <ShapeShifter499> Goes back to my original question, where are the kernel header files installed to?
[10:01] <ikonia> ShapeShifter499: /usr/share normally
[10:02] <smartypants2013> hi, can anyone recommend a good tool for monitoring web server bandwidth/traffic
[10:03] <Shine1> a
[10:05] <keelG> smartypants2013: I guess you could use something like nagios - or are you after something textbased? In that case Smokeping and iPerf might be what you are looking for
[10:05] <keelG> smartypants2013: however iperf and smokeping are more tools for measuring the network
[10:06] <Shine1> hei
[10:07] <cfhowlett> Shine1, greetings
[10:08] <Shine1> cfhowlett hi
[10:10] <ShapeShifter499> ikonia: thank you
[10:10] <ShapeShifter499> Found the kernel headers
[10:12] <dogears> How do I install the Nvidia driver on 12.10?
[10:12] <martin___> !nvidia | dogears
[10:13] <dogears> Thanks
[10:13] <savita-bhabhi> dogears  http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-driver-31014-on-ubuntu.html
[10:13] <Hyperiant> My power button does nothing when pressed, but powers down when I hold it; it seems that the system isn't receiving input from it
[10:14] <Hyperiant> Rather, that Ubuntu isn't reading my presses
[10:14] <fdf> Hi, there is any boot cd will auto increase  / ext4 none lvm  partition like Gparted just without user interference? (for vmware disk resize) thanks
[10:15] <ClientAlive> So if I do a windows / ubuntu dial boot, what are some options for formatting storage partition?
[10:16] <ClientAlive> ntfs sucks and windows won't read ext
[10:16] <ClientAlive> what are my options?
[10:16] <koegs> exFat or FAT32
[10:17] <ClientAlive> koegs: never heard of exFat. is that something new? Some kinda lingo?
[10:17] <savita-bhabhi> FAT32 works well
[10:18] <koegs> FAT32 is limited to <4GB Files
[10:18] <ClientAlive> can I use a samba share with ext filsystem and just connect the share in windblows
[10:18] <ClientAlive> ?
[10:19] <ClientAlive> linux matters, windoze is forced on my by my school
[10:19] <Hyperiant> ClientAlive: Why don't you just partition part of the drive NTFS and the other ext?
[10:20] <nuxninja> ClientAlive lucky me no school
[10:20] <ClientAlive> Hyperiant: wasted space
[10:20] <ClientAlive> nuxninja: ha ha
[10:20] <nuxninja> try samba-swat
[10:21] <ClientAlive> maybe I shoud be running windows in a vm (like someone else strongly suggested)
[10:21] <ClientAlive> idk
[10:21] <ClientAlive> then you have performance issue
[10:21] <Hyperiant> ClientAlive: What is it that you want to accomplish?
[10:21] <Guido1> Hello, i would like to ad a plugin to rhythembox, but i don't know how
[10:22] <ClientAlive> well dual boot win 8/ ubuntu 12.04 and all storage space ext4 would be nice
[10:22] <cfhowlett> Guido1, see #rhythmbox or projects.gnome.org/rhythmbox/
[10:22] <ClientAlive> but stupid windows will have to have some kind of storage eventually (probably sooner than later)
[10:22] <Hyperiant> ClientAlive: Then it's not wasted space to partition the drive
[10:23] <Guido1> cfhowlett: there seams no one to be online :-(
[10:23] <makara> hi. I set some jobs to run later when CPU load was down. Now I just want them to run no matter what. What command?
[10:23] <ClientAlive> I know, all my options suck
[10:23] <ClientAlive> I have to think about this
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !cron|makara,
[10:24] <Guido1> ubottu: perhaps crone could help me too
[10:24] <nuxninja> Guido1 i dont use Rythmbox :P soree
[10:24] <Guido1> ubottu: can i start a playlist with it a a specific time?
[10:25] <Hyperiant> How do you fix a power button not doing anything when pressed in 12.10?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Guido1, pretty sure there must be a way feed a playlist to rhythmbox via terminal.  Find that and configure cron accordingly
[10:25] <makara> Hyperiant: sounds like a joke :)
[10:26] <nuxninja> ROFLMFAO
[10:26] <Hyperiant> makara: Holding the power button turns off the computer.  Pressing it is supposed to bring up a prompt.  It doesn't.
[10:26] <ClientAlive> what is vnc like - performance wise?  (I could run a windows vm on my desktop, which has a lot more resources, and vnce into it - maybe)
[10:26] <ClientAlive> *vnc*
[10:27] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, if you only need occasional windows, consider installing a virtualbox
[10:27] <Guido1> nuxninja: perhaps you can help me anyway as i have to untar the plugin and to put it into a special folder - gnome2/rhythembox/plugins but i don't know where to find it and how to untar it at the place. i found one place and there untar doesent work
[10:27] <nuxninja> !ubotto  | vnc
[10:27] <cfhowlett> !vnc
[10:27] <Hyperiant> makara: More accurately, I can turn off the laptop using the power button, but only because holding it down actually cuts power to the computer.  Ubuntu doesn't react at all when I press it.
[10:27] <nuxninja> use nautilus Guido1
[10:28] <nuxninja> nautilus
[10:28] <ClientAlive> cfhowlett: This is the sutuation (occasional as you say). I would prefer not to run a vm on the lappy as it's resources are, well, not limited but 'more limited'
[10:28] <ClientAlive> so I wonder what vnc is like since I've never used it. Does it lag?
[10:28] <Hyperiant> ClientAlive: Again, what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[10:29] <Hyperiant> ClientAlive: In terms of usability
[10:29] <ClientAlive> I'm trying to determine the truly best option for my needs
[10:29] <nuxninja> its lhi sooraj
[10:29] <Hyperiant> ClientAlive: And what are your needs?
[10:29] <nuxninja> hi sooraj
[10:29] <ClientAlive> Hyperiant: yeah, Is it like native performance?
[10:29] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, tunneling into another machine is always slower than running from that machine natively ...
[10:30] <ClientAlive> I use linux (Ubuntu, specifically). My uni requires us to do some projects in a windows environment.
[10:30] <Guido1> nuxninja: do you have any idea where the folder is located? (gnome2/rhythembox/plugins)
[10:30] <Hyperiant> It would be slower than running it from a live CD and using persistence on a flash drive
[10:30] <ClientAlive> cfhowlett: I see. Like nocieable? Like mouse pointers freezing and shit?
[10:30] <prih> irc://irc.uragano.org/SunShiNe
[10:30] <ClientAlive> I see
[10:30] <nuxninja> no idea Guido1 .....
[10:31] <cfhowlett> ClientAlive, haven't used it enough to be able to say...
[10:31] <smartypants2013> thanks keelG
[10:31] <makara> Hyperiant, http://askubuntu.com/questions/66723/how-do-i-modify-the-power-options
[10:31] <nuxninja> but Guido1 type in terminal: whereis rythmbox
[10:31] <ClientAlive> alrighty then. I'll have to chew on this for a while
[10:31] <ClientAlive> thx fellas
[10:32] <Hyperiant> makara: I don't want an immediate shutdown from a button press, I want a prompt; it's the opposite problem that this guy is having
[10:32] <Hyperiant> makara: Except in my case, Ubuntu isn't reading my power button presses at all
[10:33] <pranav> how to prevent ubuntu from loading CD-Drivers ?
[10:33] <nuxninja> pranav ??
[10:34] <pranav> nuxninja: ok, how to disable cd rom in ubuntu ?
[10:34] <nuxninja> unmount it
[10:35] <nuxninja> umount /media/cdrom etc etc
[10:35] <pranav> nuxninja: i've no cd-rom inserted
[10:35] <nuxninja> so what reason for disabling cdrom ?? serves no purpose if no is present
[10:36] <Nodgic> is there a way to access my Ubuntu partition from Windows?
[10:36] <nuxninja> no cd is present
[10:36] <KayAteChef> Nodgic: ext3 driver
[10:36] <KayAteChef> for windows
[10:36] <KayAteChef> googleetc
[10:36] <Nodgic> aha
[10:36] <Nodgic> thanks
[10:37] <KayAteChef> probably better off usign a virtual machine and samba
[10:38] <nuxninja> pranav if there is no cd then the drive is just in zombie state or even dead ....it wont conflict with anything
[10:38] <martti> morning'
[10:38] <pranav> nuxninja: mv  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/cdrom/cdrom.ko /root
[10:38] <pranav> is it a decent solution ?
[10:38] <nuxninja> why!!
[10:39] <nuxninja> NO ways!!???
[10:40] <nuxninja> cdrom driver never conflicts with anything unless you have 2 drives
[10:41] <KayAteChef> why are you even trying to nuke your cdrom drivers?
[10:42] <pranav> whenever i wake my ubuntu from sleep state. it shakes the whole laptop with a 'glich' sound
[10:42] <ClientAlive> I've made my decision. How big should an efi partition be for an ubuntu only system?
[10:42] <Hyperiant> Meh, not much in the way of help :<
[10:42] <nuxninja> ....?? hmmm
[10:43] <hillary> i have a problem when i run 'sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:43] <iceroot> !details | hillary
[10:43] <dogears> Can I delete the main user and then recreate a new admin user with the original name?
[10:43] <nuxninja> then pranav can you remove the bay...it must be hot pluggable wit 2 screws
[10:43] <hillary> the problem is "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[10:43] <iceroot> dogears: why you want that?
[10:43] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[10:44] <iceroot> hillary: please paste the full output
[10:44] <iceroot> !paste | hillary
[10:44] <bono> hillary: try "sudo apt-get update" first
[10:44] <dogears> iceroot: Because i have problems with the home directory and a clean install hasnt fixed it.
[10:44] <Hyperiant> Lubuntu channel is utterly and completely unresponsive but I still need help.  Anybody familiar with the distro?
[10:45] <pranav> nuxninja: what ? u mean the hardware. no man i need an easy fix. something, that i could enable easily
[10:45] <mac_12> hi to everyone
[10:45] <iceroot> dogears: what kind of problem?
[10:46] <makara> Hyperiant: install gconf-tools and run gconf-editor
[10:46] <dogears> There are problems with missing icons and bad logins etc. Something bad is wrong for the past week and I have tried to rebuild with the original home dir. but the problem still is there
[10:46] <makara> Hyperiant: you didn't look through the thread
[10:46] <nuxninja> yes pranav i mean hardware.....then keep bay empty with no cd....problem solved .....the clicking sound is maybe from hdd or cd drive head moving
[10:47] <hillary> Setting up install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-8ubuntu2) ...
[10:47] <hillary> /etc/environment: line 2: :/opt/mono-2.11/bin: No such file or directory
[10:47] <hillary> dpkg: error processing install-info (--configure):
[10:47] <hillary>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:47] <hillary> No apport report written because MaxReports is reached already
[10:47] <hillary>                                                               Errors were encountered while processing:
[10:47] <FloodBot1> hillary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:47] <hillary>  install-info
[10:47] <iceroot> dogears: when you create a new user its working?
[10:47] <makara> in gconf-editor navigate to org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power and set your default button-power action to interactive
[10:47] <nuxninja> hi megha
[10:47] <dogears> iceroot: Yes the new user I created was a standard user and all is working.
[10:48] <trap24> nuxninja: yes its empty. i know that is the head just waking up to move or sth. but what can i do to fix it. it shakes. i need a smooth system :P
[10:48] <zvacet> hillary: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:48] <trap24> never seen so in windows
[10:48] <nuxninja> sorry no easy fix trap24
[10:48] <iceroot> hillary: you are installing packages from the repo? because /opt/mono does not sound like something from the repos
[10:48] <Hyperiant> makara: I'm running Lubuntu, though; will that still work in LXDE?
[10:48] <nuxninja> remove bay only option trap24
[10:48] <trap24> nuxninja: are you joking ?
[10:49] <makara> Hyperiant: no harm in trying
[10:49] <martti> w00t 3.8.0 ... I'm not used to have so recent stuff on this distro
[10:49] <nuxninja> no trap24 if it is under warranty cant help you but no warranty its unmountable
[10:49] <dogears> iceroot: The original admin user has the problems and I cant find the problems so I figure a clean user with the same name.
[10:50] <iceroot> dogears: more important would be the same uid
[10:50] <trap24> do we not have choice to load the drivers, i know cdrom is a very basic driver and loads using bios. but then again, we might have some ways to disable it for ubuntu session :D
[10:50] <iceroot> dogears: unix systems are only working with UIDs, the username itself is not important
[10:50] <nuxninja> trap24 from bios yes try there!!
[10:50] <Coffeecoco> I have a question in relation to ulimit -n
[10:51]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[10:51] <martti> !ask
[10:51] <jrib> !away > washuu_de
[10:51] <Coffeecoco> i guess i was preparing you all :P
[10:51] <Coffeecoco> brace your self!
[10:51] <dogears> iceroot: Does the user ID refer to the original admin user?
[10:51] <trap24> nuxninja: i think i told you that. so, next time what would you do to disable a webcam or sth like that. usb or a hardware. you would unpin them ??
[10:51] <martti> Coffeecoco: great. now I get bored.
[10:52] <trap24> i don't want to move the driver file either
[10:52] <nuxninja> trap24 your problem is of physical noise webcam has no RELATION whatsoever..
[10:52] <Coffeecoco> I am aware of how a server / service is effected by ulimit -n and resources, I wish to know when you enable routing/forwarding, does the act of routing/forwarding have any effect with ulimit -n resources?
[10:53] <martti> Coffeecoco: hmm, those stacks aren't associated with a user or process, so, no
[10:53] <zykes->  /j amobil
[10:53] <iceroot> dogears: you can for example move the .dirs to another place and relogin with your admin-user
[10:54] <Coffeecoco> martti thanks i assume so much thank you for clearing that
[10:54] <mac_12> does anyone have idea if "1265 hard disk sectors damaged" have effects on the speed of my UBUNTU 12.04
[10:54] <mac_12> now it appears very slow
[10:54] <Coffeecoco> I datre say that "NAT" would take up resources though
[10:54] <Coffeecoco> dare*
[10:54] <dogears> iceroot: All the hidden directories?
[10:54] <hillary> i have pasted the output of sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:55] <martti> Coffeecoco: network load balancing can be done, but just in other ways than with ulimit.
[10:55] <iceroot> dogears: thats what i would do to see what the problem is and if it will fix the issue
[10:55] <iceroot> dogears: then i would restore the important ones (mozilla, wine and so on)
[10:55] <trap24> nuxninja: so, do you know hard fix ? (u said no easy fix except unpinning the drive from board )
[10:56] <Coffeecoco> martti i guess i wasnt going too deep into load balancing, just basic network address translation, i have a feeling that NAT would take up resources, is that a bit more clear?
[10:56] <dogears> iceroot: I will give it a go Thanks
[10:56] <nuxninja> sorry cant help trap24.
[10:56] <trap24> nuxninja: ok
[10:56] <samir06> salut
[10:57] <martti> Coffeecoco: depending on the traffic, you'd see a few % of kernel load... I don't think it'll matter, unless you're really in between the lines
[10:58] <zvacet> hillary: where it is?
[10:58] <Coffeecoco> fair call,
[10:58] <donnie> Hello. I need a slight bit of assistance. I'm on Xubuntu. and when I type in sudo gedit nothing comes up. What can I replace gedit with?
[10:58] <zvacet> hillary: your pastebin
[10:58] <zvacet> donnie: leafpad
[10:58] <samir06> Hello. I need a slight bit of assistance. I'm on Xubuntu. and when I type in sudo gedit nothing comes up. What can I replace gedit with?
[10:59] <donnie> zvacet so it would be sudo leafpad then the command?
[10:59] <dr_willis> donnie:  use gksudo for gui apps.. and see if gedit is installed. or install any of a dozen other text editors.. I perfer geany. ;)
[10:59] <zvacet> donnie: yes,because leafpad is text editor in xfce
[10:59] <martti> samir06: what about your question. are you the same guy as donnie
[10:59] <dr_willis> samir06:  sudo apt-get install gedit    or i think xubuntu uses leafpad? im not sure
[11:00] <dr_willis> !info leafpad
[11:00] <dr_willis> Hmm. leafpad is tiny
[11:00] <martti> !xauthority
[11:00] <martti> !xauth
[11:00] <martti> the bot is not helpful.
[11:00] <dr_willis> if you learn the factoids....
[11:00] <dr_willis> !fish
[11:01] <martti> how to retreive an url w/information about xauthority through the bot?
[11:02] <donnie> Thank you. I'm doing a replacement in a file to make chrome faster :D
[11:02] <donnie> and it worked
[11:02] <dr_willis> there may not be any martti
[11:02]  * washuu_de is away: AFK
[11:02] <dr_willis> !bot
[11:02] <dogears> iceroot: Solved the problem. Thanks for your help.
[11:05] <mac_12> \quit
[11:05] <mac_12> \exit
[11:06] <dr_willis> try a /
[11:06] <martti> irc likes slashes...
[11:06] <Noctifer> hi mh since my upgrade to 12.10 nautilus can't copy files to certain usb drives (permissions are granted) even if copying using the console works without problems
[11:06] <Noctifer> am i missing some kind of package?
[11:07] <jrib> Noctifer: have you restarted nautilus?
[11:07] <dr_willis> so you can as a user  'cp filename /media/username/theflashdrive'  but  you cant just drag/drop a file into /media/username/theflashdrive ?
[11:07] <martti> that usually depends on the mounting method, unless you're blindly trusting some kind of *kit. I don't know about that, never really used it.
[11:07] <hillary> hillary@hillary-ESPRIMO-Mobile:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:07] <hillary> [sudo] password for hillary:
[11:07] <hillary> Reading package lists... Done
[11:07] <hillary> Building dependency tree
[11:07] <hillary> Reading state information... Done
[11:07] <FloodBot1> hillary: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <hillary> The following packages have been kept back:
[11:07] <Noctifer> for instance mkdir works without problems from console, creating folder using nautilus fails saying the device is write protected
[11:07] <Noctifer> dr_willis: exactly
[11:07] <dr_willis> hillary:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:08] <dr_willis> Noctifer:  that is unusual. as a test. see if the guest account. or a newly made user has the same issue
[11:08] <dr_willis> Noctifer:  these are vfat/ntfs filesystems on the flash drive correct?
[11:09] <Noctifer> dr_willis: happens both with ext3 formatted and vendor formatted ones
[11:09] <Noctifer> dr_willis: both worked just right before the upgrade
[11:09] <dr_willis> Noctifer:  for ext3 you Must set the proper ownership.. but you  allready knowthat. :) since it worked befor...
[11:10] <jrib> Noctifer: restart nautilus and see if the issue persists
[11:10] <Noctifer> mh
[11:10] <Noctifer> k
[11:10] <Noctifer> reboot
[11:10] <jrib> Noctifer: no.
[11:10] <jrib> ...
[11:10] <dr_willis> Yea. and if it does have issues.. test with other users.
[11:10] <Noctifer> what "no" :D
[11:10] <Noctifer> what "no" :D
[11:10] <Noctifer> should i  reboot now or not?
[11:10] <blkrdo> ubuntu wont shutdown what is happening ?
[11:11] <dr_willis> no need to reboot.
[11:11] <jrib> Noctifer: I mean don't reboot.  Just restart nautilus
[11:11] <dr_willis> just log out/back in
[11:11] <jrib> Noctifer: try this first: pkill -HUP nautilus
[11:11] <dr_willis> i wonder if it could be mounted twice... with differnt permissions.
[11:12] <jrib> there must be some bug in nautilus.  Someone had the same issue a while ago.  We debugged so much about permissions and mount options and it turned out nautilus just wasn't picking up the permissions until it was restarted for some reason.  Even hitting "reload" in nautilus wouldn't work
[11:12] <blkrdo> ubuntu 11.10 wont shutdown from unity gui after upgrde...
[11:13] <dr_willis> blkrdo:  if you logout to the login screen.. and shutdown from there. does it work?
[11:13] <hillary> i have pasted the output of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:13] <hillary> "
[11:13] <blkrdo> no..
[11:13] <dr_willis> !pastebin | hillary
[11:13] <jrib> hillary: did you pastebin the output like ubottu said to?
[11:13] <blkrdo> dr_willis: no
[11:13] <dr_willis> !11.10
[11:14] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1580533
[11:14] <Noctifer> well works ....
[11:14] <Noctifer> CRAP AND I FORMATTED THE STICK FOR NOTHING
[11:14] <jrib> hillary: /etc/environment: line 2: :/opt/mono-2.11/bin: No such file or directory
[11:14] <hillary> yes
[11:15] <hillary> what do i do?
[11:15] <Noctifer> well ... thanks ><
[11:15] <jrib> Noctifer: there's some sort of weird bug in nautilus where it won't detect changes in permissions even when you press reload (you should try pressing reload in nautilus and verifying it isn't enough).  Probably a good idea to check for a bug in bugs.ubuntu.com and either watch it or create one if it doesn't exist
[11:15] <jrib> gah
[11:16] <dr_willis> !info install-info
[11:16] <jrib> hillary: probably a good idea to take care of "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" too.
[11:16] <jrib> hillary: what is your second line in /etc/environment?
[11:17] <admin0> hi .. in ubuntu, where is the default iptables rules saved ? in which file ?
[11:18] <alberto> ciao
[11:18] <jrib> admin0: there are no default iptables rules afaik
[11:18] <dr_willis> if you say !list im going to send you torrent files... ;)
[11:18] <jrib> admin0: what do you want to accomplish?
[11:18] <admin0> hmm... please ignore my question :)
[11:18] <Ben64> dr_willis: you made him sad
[11:19] <dr_willis> Ben64:  that was... amuseing..
[11:19] <jrib> he didn't want dr_willis torrents
[11:19] <dr_willis> and here i was looking for somthing from legaltorrents.org ;)
[11:19] <hillary> i seem not to be getting it correct. how do i check the line
[11:19] <Ben64> just send 12.04 torrent
[11:19] <jrib> hillary: head /etc/environment
[11:19] <admin0> apparently i mistook the iptables rules from one application and thought it was the default .
[11:20] <dr_willis> Ben64:  nah.. a 6.06  torrent would be funnier
[11:20] <Ben64> i've never understood the "ciao, !list" stuff
[11:21] <TomyLaptop> it's a warez thing
[11:21] <TomyLaptop> supposedly
[11:22] <Ben64> No, I get !list. I was on irc 15 years ago too :)  I just don't get why Italy hasn't gotten the memo
[11:23] <rax-> If I create a template from a VM with SSH key pair set up, when I launch the new VM from the template, will I be able to connect using the public key from the template vm?
[11:23] <hillary> am defeated
[11:25] <rax-> i.e. - create key pair, give a server the public key and verify it connects as expected. Create new VM from the machine that houses the private key and connect from the server containing the public key from the VM used for the template?
[11:25] <rax-> I could just try it but I'm just hoping for a quick answer
[11:26] <dr_willis> Ben64:  aparently they cant handle torrents..
[11:26] <dr_willis> hillary:  a simple command like 'head /etc/enviroment' and looking at line 2 has you defeated?
[11:27] <hillary> head: cannot open `/etc/enviroment' for reading: No such file or directory
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Ben64, no warty warthog torrent available?
[11:27] <hb> woahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh OMG OMG
[11:27] <hb> a chat for UBUNTU
[11:28] <hb> woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[11:28] <hb> LOOK AT THIS
[11:28] <cfhowlett> hb, stop
[11:28] <FloodBot1> hb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:28] <hb> woah!!!!!!!!!!
[11:28] <dr_willis> hb:  what?  and now everyone has you on ignore
[11:28] <Ben64> that was short lived
[11:29] <hb> hey
[11:30] <dr_willis> Hello
[11:32] <dr_willis> be right back
[11:35] <Coffeecoco> guys i have a little guide in front of me
[11:35] <Coffeecoco> and there suggesting ubuntu 11.04
[11:35] <Coffeecoco> think he means 12.4 ?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Coffeecoco, old guide ?
[11:35] <Coffeecoco> err 12.04
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Coffeecoco, 12.04 is latest Long Term Support version ...
[11:35] <Coffeecoco> cfhowlett its one of them ones that " suppoted working tested on "
[11:36] <Coffeecoco> my question is
[11:36] <Coffeecoco> 11.04 is not valid
[11:36] <pat__> Is there still a "One Fell Swoop" command for installing a lamp server? ^lamp-server or something like that.
[11:36] <Coffeecoco> or exist ??
[11:36] <Ben64> !lamp | pat__
[11:36] <ThinkT510> Coffeecoco: 11.04 is no longer supported
[11:36] <Coffeecoco> can anyone confirm there was a realease of ubuntu that is 11.04 ?
[11:36] <Coffeecoco> ^ that is my question
[11:37] <ThinkT510> Coffeecoco: yes, there was, it is no longer supported
[11:37] <Coffeecoco> ty
[11:37] <Coffeecoco> i dont care if its supported
[11:37] <pat__> Coffeecoco, wasn't that natty?
[11:37] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | Coffeecoco
[11:37] <Coffeecoco> dont give a hoot
[11:37] <zooz> hi people
[11:39] <zooz> how do I disable a service to start on boot?
[11:39] <pat__> Ben64, Found one of them -- installing taskel then running it lets you do it quickly.  There was another though that I remember...
[11:39] <pat__> zooz, what service?
[11:39] <zooz> pat__, any, let's say a service called "foobar"
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> zooz  is this useful http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:40] <dr_willis> that upstart cookbook doc site is worth reading.. ;)
[11:42] <pat__> zooz, what they said.  I waslooking for a GUI but I'm not familiar enough yet with unity.
[11:42] <jrib> zooz: depends on whether the service's init script is an upstart script (resides in /etc/init) or is still an old-style sys-v init script (resides in /etc/init.d)
[11:42] <dr_willis> ive seen no gui upstart manager tools
[11:42] <dogears> I cant shutdown my 12.10 computer?
[11:43] <dr_willis> dogears:  a rather common apci/powersaveing/bios/kernel quirk/bug sadly.
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> dogears  what happens when you try and did it work before?
[11:43] <dogears> What has changed from 12.04
[11:43] <dr_willis> a new kernel for one thing dogears
[11:43] <zooz> no, not GUI, I am talking about the server edition and let's say my service is an upstart service
[11:44] <dr_willis> zooz:  and you want to do what exactly with it
[11:44] <dogears> Monkeydust: it was perfect till I just did the last upgrade
[11:44] <zooz> dr_willis, I want my 'foobar' service not to start on boot
[11:44] <dr_willis> zooz:  upstart cookbook mentions 3 differnt ways to disable it...
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> dogears  plenty reviews, here's one http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/ubuntu-12-10-review-linux-users-biggest-ever-super-test
[11:44] <dr_willis> zooz:  easiest.. rename the foobar.conf to be foobar.dontrun in /etc/init/
[11:45] <dogears> dr_willis: The latest was just installed
[11:45] <Guido1> hello, is there a alarmcloc out there which can play a playlist or a rhythmbox plugin for that?
[11:46] <jrib> zooz: using manual overrides as described in the cookbook is better imo since it still allows you to use upstart to manage the service later (like if you want to start it manually after boot)
[11:47] <zooz> right, I see, I thought there was a command or something (ubuntu seems so immature when coming from real distributions like fedora or centos)
[11:47] <zooz> yet I am amazed how many people use it
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> zooz  please don't start
[11:47] <zooz> I will not
[11:47] <dr_willis> zooz:  wait till everyone changes to that systemd stuff... you will get totally stupified then
[11:48] <zooz> dr_willis, I love systemd, been using it for some time now
[11:48] <dr_willis> amazing thing about upstart.. its been in use for several realeases now.. and not a lot of people have even noticed the switch from sysv.
[11:48] <dr_willis> but i imagine its days are numbered.
[11:48] <zooz> dr_willis, is ubuntu going to switch to systemd?
[11:49] <dr_willis> zooz:  the rumor mill says yes.. eventually..
[11:49] <daze> :/
[11:49] <zooz> ah, great
[11:49] <daze> why is systemd good?
[11:49] <dr_willis> dont hold your breath for it to be soon.
[11:49] <zooz> sure
[11:49] <dr_willis>  the init system is an amazingly complex topic daze  once you start getting into it.. upstart fixs some of the problems.. systemd fixs a lot of them also.. in a radically differnt way. ;)
[11:50] <dr_willis> I barely understood half the reasons or issues with   init systems till i started reading up on the rather dry topic. ;)
[11:50] <daze> yeah, I read somewhere that systemd is a betrayal of unix principles and such
[11:50] <Noriandir>  hi. i'm having problems accessing my apache server through my external IP. I have it working for some time now and had no problems until today... =/
[11:50] <zooz> dr_willis, could you answer another question for me please? I don't get the point of being interrupted when installing packages, for instance installing mysql prompts me to enter root password and such
[11:51] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1580753/
[11:51] <dr_willis> zooz:  never really worried about it. ;)  package managament - another very complex topic. :)
[11:51] <ThinkT510> zooz: using the package management should always prompt for your users password
[11:51] <zooz> ThinkT510, I am not talking about sudo password
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> that's called 'security'
[11:52] <kiwi65745> I think what zooz means is the mysql password
[11:52] <dr_willis> I thought all those questions got asked at the end of the package session,  where their c pkg config scripts were getting ran
[11:52] <dr_willis> so its  a post-install question actually
[11:52] <zooz> right dr_willis
[11:52] <kiwi65745> even i've faced this issue. It asks for the password during the installation of any software using apt-get
[11:52] <dr_willis> complex packages may need input.. thats just life.
[11:53] <dr_willis> or else ya got to go back then redo that command to configure them afterwards.. (i forget the command)
[11:53] <zooz> I have been using RPM-based packages for years and have never been prompted or interrupted during any package install
[11:53] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  (ugh!) ;)
[11:53] <zooz> I think there is a way to turn this off
[11:53] <zooz> which is great
[11:53] <dr_willis> so how do you set the myswl password then.
[11:54] <kiwi65745> dr_willis why does mysql need authentication everytime i want to install ANOTHER software?
[11:54] <dr_willis> mysql asks for the mysql Root users password on install i recall
[11:54] <dogears> dr_willis: Do we wait for the fix? This was rebooting following the latest upgrade.
[11:54] <kiwi65745> yes, and then it asks you to authenticate the same everytime you install something else. I've faced this on debian as well.
[11:55] <lyda> dr_willis: debconf-set-selections is what you want to look at.
[11:55] <lyda> debconf-set-selections << EOF
[11:55] <lyda> mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server/root_password password $MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD
[11:55] <lyda> mysql-server-5.1 mysql-server/root_password_again password $MYSQL_ROOT_PASSWORD
[11:55] <lyda> EOF
[11:55] <dr_willis> I dont really do mysql :) so  i doubt if i have it installed on any of my systems
[11:55] <dogears> dr_willis: This was the latest upgrade.
[11:56] <ClientAlive> earlier today someone gage me an aptitude command to install packages from a file. I lost it. Does anyone know what that is again?
[11:56] <lyda> if you'd like to see what selections your packages currently use, debconf-get-selections
[11:56] <dr_willis> dogears:  and the next kernel update might fix it.. check the bug reports perhaps.
[11:56] <ClientAlive> *gave*
[11:56] <dr_willis> !clone > ClientAlive
[11:56] <dr_willis> be carefull with aptitude. ;)
[11:56] <dr_willis> theres other ways to install from a file list also.
[11:57] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: that's it. thx
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  here's how I do it http://paste.ubuntu.com/1580797/
[11:59] <Noriandir> can anyone help me with my problem said above?
[11:59] <ubuntu> ck sdsgdg
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> Noriandir  it's easier if you simply repeated the question, in one line
[12:00] <Noriandir> here it is: i'm having problems accessing my apache server through my external IP. I have it working for some time now and had no problems until today... =/
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> Noriandir  ubuntu server? if yes: they have their own channel   #ubuntu-server
[12:01] <damian_^> hi, i installed plasma active via software center but im only getting the kde plasma desktop, not the tablet version. what package do i need (maybe a dummy package) or do i need to add a ppa or something?
[12:01] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: uhh. bash is telling me aptitude command not found. I looked and looked again and it is spelled right and in the correct case
[12:01] <Noriandir> now i've realised that my ssh access is having problems too. so its accessing the external ip and not the apache server only
[12:01] <Noriandir> MonkeyDust, no, its not ubuntu server
[12:01] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  apti<tab>  perhaps.
[12:01] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  i never use the command these days
[12:02] <arcsky> where do i find correct  source to my apt/source.list ?  squeeze/sid
[12:02] <ClientAlive> I see
[12:02] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  you did install aptitude?
[12:02] <iceroot> arcsky: #debian
[12:02] <dr_willis> arcsky:  ubuntu dosent use squeeze/sid
[12:03] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: shows me a list of possiblities. aptitude is not in the list
[12:03] <ClientAlive> am I missing some things?
[12:03] <iceroot> ClientAlive: dpkg -l aptitude
[12:03] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  you did install aptitude?.... its NOT installed by default...
[12:03] <arcsky> dr_willis: how can i see what i run ?
[12:03] <iceroot> ClientAlive: what is the output
[12:03] <iceroot> arcsky: cat /etc/issue
[12:03] <dr_willis> !version | arcsky
[12:03] <ClientAlive> I didn't know I had to
[12:04] <arcsky> dr_willis: Ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[12:04] <ClientAlive> man this thing is fast as hell!
[12:04] <dr_willis> arcsky:  may be time to upgrade
[12:04] <dr_willis> !10.10
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> arcsky  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:05] <arcsky> do i must reboot after upgrade?
[12:05] <damian_^> hi, i installed plasma active via software center but im only getting the kde plasma desktop, not the tablet version. what package do i need (maybe a dummy package) or do i need to add a ppa or something?
[12:05] <dr_willis> a release upgrade-- will wnt a reboot yes
[12:05] <mvk> i would like to change a launcher icon, (a program im running, and pinned to the unity launcher)
[12:05] <iceroot> ClientAlive: you could also use "for a in $(< filename); do apt-get install "&a"; done
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> arcsky  a fresh innstall is fastest, easiest and cleanest
[12:05] <dr_willis> arcsky:  for that old a install.. a clean nstall may be a better idea
[12:05] <mvk> where do i start, i googled my *** off, i cant find it!
[12:06] <arcsky> its a server with good uptime
[12:06] <arcsky> dont want to reboot :p
[12:06] <iceroot> arcsky: a server?
[12:06] <arcsky> yes
[12:06] <arcsky> lab server
[12:06] <dr_willis> mvk:  take an existing  .desktop file and copy it.. and change it
[12:06] <dr_willis> mvk:  ie: copy gedit.desktop and  edit it how you want
[12:06] <iceroot> arcsky: a server running 10.10 which is EOL and does not get a reboot to install the newest kernel-fixes and so on?
[12:07] <iceroot> arcsky: i hope its not a public server
[12:07] <captine> mvk have u tried "main menu".  not it seems to allow you to select an icon
[12:07] <arcsky> ircnode0: public yes
[12:07] <iceroot> arcsky: ......
[12:07] <ClientAlive> iceroot: wow, I wish I understood bash script that well  :)
[12:07] <iceroot> arcsky: please dont do something like that, its full of security issues
[12:08] <arcsky> iceroot: ok can i do apt-get distupgrade ?
[12:08] <iceroot> arcsky: please dont host public servers if you dont know what you are doing
[12:08] <iceroot> arcsky: dist-upgrade is not installing a newer ubuntu version
[12:08] <iceroot> !eol | arcsky
[12:08] <iceroot> arcsky: last link
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> arcsky  upgrading from 10.10 would take forever, clean install is faster
[12:09] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: its not faster
[12:09] <mvk> capri, where can i find main menu?
[12:10] <mvk> dr_willis, in what directory would that be?
[12:10] <dr_willis> after my last upgrade from a .4 to a .10 took 5 hrs... i found clean installs faster. ;)
[12:10] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: you have to backup, you have to see what packages are not anymore in 12.04, you have to reconfigure things (which is done by postinsts in the upgrade process) and so on
[12:10] <dr_willis> mvk:  learn to use the 'locate' command
[12:10] <ftruzzi> Hi, I want to install ubuntu, but for some reason BIOS is not booting from CD-ROM or USB, so I will make SYSLINUX to boot to the ubuntu ISO in my Download folder, there is any command to append to the boot process so that the ISO is copyed completely to RAM?
[12:11] <dr_willis> mvk:  locate  filename
[12:11] <iceroot> arcsky: but please do some reading about ubuntu or ask a unix-admin but please dont host public servers and say "i dont want to destroy my uptime with a reboot for security fixes"
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> arcsky  upgrade or fresh install, a lot of work to be done
[12:11] <iceroot> arcsky: that is the reason for open-spamrelays, warez-ftp server and so on
[12:13] <arcsky> hehe of course its not hacked
[12:13] <dr_willis> yea.. sure its not..
[12:14] <arcsky> but will do a fresh install
[12:14] <iceroot> arcsky: and you are sure because?
[12:15] <iceroot> arcsky: i bet your system has this "debian ssl bug" and you did not create new ssl-certs
[12:15] <iceroot> imo 10.10 was still affected by this bug
[12:16] <ftruzzi> Hi, I want to install ubuntu, but for some reason BIOS is not booting from CD-ROM or USB, so I will make SYSLINUX to boot to the ubuntu ISO in my Download folder, there is any command to append to the boot process so that the ISO is copyed completely to RAM?
[12:16] <ClientAlive> I think I need to make sure I have the repos installed that are on that other machine. What's that file location and the command to install a repo on the other machine?
[12:16] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1580931/
[12:17] <qasim> hi... does anyone nuxninja?... he was here like 4 or 5 hours ago....
[12:19] <Ben64> qasim: Jan 28 2013 03:45:23 *	nuxninja (~corenot@27.4.112.94) has left #ubuntu ("Ex-Chat")
[12:21] <qasim> Ben64,  thx for informing... i just wanted to let him know the link that he gave worked..... i dont login here often but its a sort of obligation on me to tell the outcome...
[12:21] <ThinkT510> !yay | qasim
[12:21] <Ben64> qasim: well thats not really the best way to install nvidia
[12:21] <Ben64> but if it worked it worked
[12:22] <qasim> Ben64,  i dont know but my boats are floating :P so yay
[12:22] <Ben64> it might break during an upgrade
[12:23] <qasim> actually i dint istall nvidea from there :P
[12:23] <Ben64> you said you did
[12:23] <qasim> i just installed xorg edgers :P
[12:23] <ClientAlive> isn't there some file that shows what repositories are installed?
[12:23] <qasim> Ben64, i said the link that he gave me worked
[12:24] <Ben64> qasim: the link said to download and run a file
[12:24] <Ben64> the file gets nvidia drivers from the website and runs it that way
[12:24] <Ben64> ClientAlive: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[12:24] <qasim> after adding the ppa i just updated it...it installed updates of 100 mbs and now its working
[12:24] <Ben64> you didn't do the other steps?
[12:25] <qasim> nopes
[12:25] <ClientAlive> Ben64: yup. thx
[12:25] <Ben64> qasim: and you're definitely using nvidia driver?
[12:25] <qasim> no i think im still using xorg
[12:25] <qasim> let me confirm
[12:25] <ThinkT510> qasim: beware of upgrading that system in the future, ppas are notorious for package breakages
[12:26] <Ben64> yeah not sure why someone would recommend that method
[12:26] <Ben64> the normal ubuntu repository has nvidia 310 driver
[12:26] <qasim> ThinkT510, thx for the heads up...i would keep in mind
[12:26] <hillary> how do i locate " 1 not fully installed or remove" package in ubuntu 12.04
[12:27] <qasim> Ben64,  actually i had installed the nvidea normal way but it dint work
[12:27] <ThinkT510> hillary: what is the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade?
[12:28] <qasim> Ben64,  how to check if its x server or nvidea running currently on  my OS?
[12:28] <Ben64> qasim: what is the output of "sudo lshw -c video | grep -i driver"
[12:29] <qasim> let me check Ben64
[12:29] <ThinkT510> qasim: if you have a gui then X server is running, nvidia is just the graphics driver
[12:29] <qasim> okay
[12:30] <ThinkT510> qasim: if you want to see what is in use lsmod will show you the kernel modules loaded
[12:30] <qasim> Ben64,  configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[12:31] <Ben64> then you're not using nvidia
[12:31] <ThinkT510> qasim: then you are using the open source nouveau driver
[12:31] <qasim> kool
[12:31] <Ben64> you don't want to use nvidia?
[12:31] <qasim> ThinkT510 and Ben64  i was right i dint install the nvidea actually;p
[12:31] <ThinkT510> qasim: why did you install the edgers ppa then?
[12:31] <qasim> nah Ben64  not at all
[12:32] <Ben64> then why did you ask about it ...
[12:32] <qasim> its beeeeeeeeeen so very hard for me to resolve this effing blu ray problem
[12:32] <qasim> lolll
[12:33] <ThinkT510> qasim: what does bluray have to do with xorg?
[12:33] <lapdis> What is the easiest way to make a process keep running when I log out of the system?
[12:33] <Ben64> lapdis: screen
[12:33] <qasim> ThinkT510,  i was unable to play blue ray format videos properly
[12:33] <hillary> sudo apt-get update is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581052/"
[12:33] <qasim> nux asked me to install nvidea
[12:34] <qasim> and he gave me the link
[12:34] <qasim> from there i just installed xorg edgers
[12:34] <qasim> and updated the system
[12:34] <ThinkT510> qasim: and you are not running nvidia, you are running nouveau, so why are you using xorg-edgers if you don't plan on using nvidia?
[12:35] <qasim> ThinkT510, i know i wont be making any sense but snce im using this linux..wonders happen
[12:35] <qasim> lol
[12:35] <ThinkT510> qasim: what was wrong with the previous xorg so that you needed xorg-edgers?
[12:36] <hillary> sudo apt-get update is "http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581052/"
[12:36] <qasim> videos were choppy
[12:36] <qasim> and the frames were broken
[12:36] <Eagleman> How can i find out my WAN ip address from the terminal?
[12:36] <qasim> ThinkT510,  but now all sort of videos  are working properly
[12:37] <ThinkT510> qasim: ok
[12:37] <Ben64> Eagleman: you could query a server and have it report back to you
[12:37] <ThinkT510> Eagleman: iwconfig
[12:37] <qasim> im sorry i dont understand technical jargons much ThinkT510 .....but my issue is resolved
[12:37] <hillary> for upgrade is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581080/
[12:38] <qasim> ThinkT510, i am just here to tell the outcome maybe it would help you experts to help others
[12:38] <dnjksand> hi
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> hillary  and the outcome of sudo apt-get update ?
[12:39] <keelG>  Eagleman: try this wget http://checkip.dyndns.org/ -q -O - |grep -Eo '\<[[:digit:]]{1,3}(\.[[:digit:]]{1,3}){3}\>'
[12:39] <Eagleman> Wow thanks KeelG
[12:40] <dnjksand> hello
[12:41] <cfhowlett> dnjksand, greetigns
[12:42] <dnjksand> have  you tired the new ubuntu ?
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> dnjksand  yes, as this is the ubuntu channel
[12:43] <hillary> for update is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581082/
[12:44] <dnjksand> how do it work with amd ati gfx cards ?
[12:44] <histo> !ati | dnjksand
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> hillary  no, type sudo apt-get update|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[12:45] <dnjksand> are the amd gfx drivers still shit and nvidia the king ?
[12:46] <hillary> sudo apt-get update|http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581082/
[12:46] <histo> rlol you are just posting the same link
[12:46] <hillary> sudo apt-get upgrade|http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581080/
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> hillary  no, type "sudo apt-get update|pastebinit", without the quotes, and paste the url here in the channel
[12:47]  * histo ohmy
[12:48] <hillary> sudo apt-get update|pastebinit,http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581082/
[12:48] <hillary> it that ok?
[12:48] <wasanzy> hello
[12:48] <ikt> hey wasanzy
[12:49] <wasanzy> am getting so many failed error when I run apt-get update :http://paste.scsys.co.uk/226124
[12:49] <hillary>  sudo apt-get upgrade|pastebinit,http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581080/
[12:49] <histo> hillary: No it's not okay
[12:50] <wasanzy> I did apt-get update --fix-missing  but the problem not solved
[12:50] <histo> hillary: in a terminal type in            sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[12:50] <histo> hillary: then copy the link that it gives you and paste it here.
[12:51] <ThinkT510> !who | hillary
[12:51] <histo> wasanzy: what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> hillary  open a terminal and there you type "sudo apt-get update|pastebinit" -- you then get a URL -- paste that URL here
[12:51]  * histo senses some trolling
[12:51] <wasanzy> histo: buntu 10.10 \n \l
[12:52] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: 10.10 is no longer supported
[12:52] <hillary>  ok ok understood
[12:52] <histo> wasanzy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[12:53] <histo> wasanzy: when 10.10 went end of life the repos went down.
[12:53] <wasanzy> ok
[12:53] <wasanzy> but I think that is a bad thing
[12:54] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: the support periods are clearly defined
[12:54] <histo> !release | wasanzy
[12:54] <histo> wasanzy: So they should support ever version ever made?
[12:54] <histo> wasanzy: sorry every version ever made?  That would be rather difficult
[12:55] <histo> wasanzy: if you want longer term support stick to LTS releases like 10.04 or 12.04 etc...
[12:56] <test4> hi guys
[12:56] <test4> i have a problem with ubuntu on acer aspire laptop...
[12:56] <histo> !details | test4
[12:56] <test4> Keyboard buttons wont work unless i hold them down, when i press one time it only makes sound.
[12:57] <wasanzy> so now I have to upgrade?
[12:57] <histo> test4: Does this happen in every application?
[12:58] <test4> histo terminal and keyboard settings test area.
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  yes
[12:58] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, only if you want updates
[12:58] <test4> and in menu i press buttons it makes sound..
[12:58] <test4> so yes histo
[12:58] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: a fresh install would be best
[12:58] <histo> wasanzy: You don't have to do anything
[12:58] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, the distro will continue to work but ...
[12:59] <wasanzy> the problem first came when I was trying to install php: apt-get install php5
[12:59] <wasanzy> is not really about update
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  newer version is adviced, but not requiered - you simply won't get any upates
[12:59] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: then use a supported release
[12:59] <histo> wasanzy: you can move your home to a sperate partition. And then just reinstall /  and all your settings and stuff would be saved
[12:59] <test4> histo:  its my friends laptop he just showed me the problem.. i dno what has he done.. i hear it just happened.. is it possible something is physicaly wrong with the keyboard? or.. some butons
[12:59] <histo> !seperatehome | wasanzy
[12:59] <histo> !separatehome | wasanzy
[13:00] <wasanzy> ok, thank you
[13:00] <histo> test4: No because it's reading the key presses if it's playing sounds on press events
[13:00] <histo> test4: xev might shed some light on what's going on
[13:01] <hillary> ThinkT510, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1581229/
[13:01] <_Rocky_> evince pdf typesetting is bad. some characters seem to touch others or overlap. the same pdf looks good when I open it in adobe reader on windows
[13:01] <histo> _Rocky_: Try a different pdf reader in linux then
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> !pdf | _Rocky_
[13:03] <bogi-> _Rocky_,  maybe problem is in used fonts in document...
[13:03] <histo> test4: or try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and testing keyboard in cli.  Or you can boot in single user mode and check kb also. Maybe it's just a probelm with a setting in X.  If it still works in cli or su then I would start checking in his home .gconf or some settings files.
[13:03] <histo> test4: You could create another user and confirm that it's only his user experiencing the issue.
[13:04] <Mrokii> Does anybody know why I get the following error message in weechat (possibly in other apps as well, don't know): dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-6qIqQMHf2j:
[13:04] <ThinkT510> hillary: wow, thats a lot of ppas
[13:04] <Mrokii> Connection refused
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> hillary  what ThinkT510 says: the PPAs are most probably the wrong-doers
[13:06] <test4> histo
[13:07] <test4> ctrl alt f1
[13:07] <test4> it works there
[13:07] <hillary> ThinkT510:  what do i do
[13:07] <ThinkT510> hillary: get rid of them
[13:07] <bogi-> Does somebody know to fix problems with pydoc -k(ubuntu 12.04) ???I got traceback error when search ?
[13:07] <ThinkT510> !ppa-purge | hillary
[13:08] <test4> histo so how can i fix it?
[13:08] <histo> test4: okay so now try and eliminate it being a setting. Create  new user and test i there.
[13:08] <ThinkT510> hillary: i don't use ppas and discourage their use, they are likely the cause of 99% of all dependency issues
[13:08] <wasanzy> is 11.04 forever supported?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> ThinkT510, what you said
[13:08] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: no
[13:09] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, no ubuntu is supported forever
[13:09] <cfhowlett> !lts|wasanzy,
[13:09] <bogi-> cfhowlett, please dont troll
[13:09] <hillary> ThinkT510: let me try follow your steps to remove them
[13:09] <cfhowlett> bogi-, what are you talking about?
[13:09] <ixio2> anyone with an AMD A8 APU know which audio output to use for HDMI ??
[13:09] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: are you just afraid of using unity? you don't have to use unity, there are other choices
[13:10] <bogi-> cfhowlett, ...abou supporting particular version till end of world
[13:10] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, if you want to use an ubuntu with a long support window, install LTS only
[13:10] <test4> histo login screen password i have to hold buttons down for them to work, so are you sure creating new user would maybe work`?
[13:10] <bogi-> cfhowlett, :D
[13:10] <wasanzy> ok, I have to approval from my boss to upgrade the server now
[13:10] <histo> test4: no then it's a problem in X
[13:10] <cfhowlett> bogi-, read the message.  I said NO distro is supported forever in direct response to that question.
[13:10] <histo> test4: make sure he didn't do anything goofy in his /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:11] <bogi-> cfhowlett, blah...sry dude my bad
[13:11] <cfhowlett> bogi-, np
[13:11] <wasanzy> is 11.04 still in support? I want to upgrade to that version
[13:11] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: no
[13:11] <test4> histo im not sure hes computer skills are even near to the knowing about the conf files
[13:11] <ThinkT510> !topic | wasanzy
[13:11] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, 11.04 is no longer supported.  current LTS is 12.04
[13:12] <wasanzy> which ok
[13:12] <histo> test4: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup  && sudo restart lightdb
[13:12] <histo> test4: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup  && sudo restart lightdm
[13:12] <histo> sorry typo in first line
[13:13] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, sorry, what?  I'd recommend LTS but that's just me.  I don't like upgrading every 6 months, and LTS now has 5 years of desktop and server support
[13:15] <test4> histo i didnt do that yet but another user indeed works. and seems like i was on locked computer password before. so i could log in very nicely now..
[13:15] <sara_ubuntu> hi boys one Q, my sda2 linux installation doesn't show in grub , plz help  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/        , grub-update doesn't help
[13:15] <histo> wasanzy: I run LTS and don't jump every 6 months
[13:15] <histo> wasanzy: I usually just jump LTS to LTS when .1 comes out
[13:15] <histo> test4: Okay so then there is a setting issue for his user.
[13:16] <test4> histo and how do i fix?
[13:16] <mvk>  is there an app, or settings panel where i can manage my unity shortcuts/launcher shortcuts?
[13:16]  * FlowRiser is away: Napping
[13:16] <ThinkT510> mvk: just drag and drop what you want
[13:16] <mvk> (copying and editing .desktop files a non reasonable solution to me..)
[13:16] <wasanzy> ok, do you suggest I run "do-release-upgrade" or there is more to it?
[13:17] <Guest85548> sorry to interupt, but how do i go about getting help?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: clean install a supported version
[13:17] <histo> test4: How badly does he want his customizations that's he's made?
[13:17] <sara_ubuntu>  histo can any1 guide me how to troubleshoot  : sda2 linux installation not show in grub , phttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/  , grub-update doesn't help
[13:17] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, clean install is your best option.
[13:17] <sara_ubuntu>  histo can any1 guide me how to troubleshoot  : sda2 linux installation not show in grub , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/  , grub-update doesn't help
[13:17] <test4> histo im sure he could do without it.. if theres no other simple way to fix it.
[13:17] <histo> wasanzy: I would move your home to separate partition then do a clean install of /
[13:17] <wasanzy> I only have ssh access to the server being hosted some where else
[13:18] <_Rocky_> wasanzy: +1 for clean install after data backup. upgrade might cause problems
[13:18] <histo> wasanzy: oh boy
[13:18] <histo> wasanzy: Why haven't you updated it?
[13:18] <Matt__> Running Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS from USB and running installation and I keep getting stuck on "Where are you?" after it says it's finished copying files. The progress bar goes away and the cursor goes to the round loading one and it sticks here indefinately. Any solutions?
[13:19] <histo> wasanzy: Also why are you running 10.10 on a server instead of 10.04 or 12.04?
[13:19] <sara_ubuntu> Matt__ have u tried with "try without installing" does it work on ur hardware?
[13:19] <antonio_> does anyone know how to install adobe air on 12.10?
[13:19] <histo> !alternate | Matt__
[13:19] <histo> Matt__: I would check your cd for errors
[13:19] <wasanzy> histo: I don't manage that server and it was just now that I was ask to install php and mysql before I realized the version
[13:20] <test4> so histo what shall i do?
[13:20] <Matt__> It has worked before on the same USB install and I've also reinstalled on the USB. And yes, I've run it on the same PC just recently but i had to format. (Installing alongside Windows 7 btw but it doesn't want to work on any of my 3 HDDs)
[13:20] <wasanzy> I don't know if it is a server version or desktop though, but it looks like there are some other applications on it
[13:20] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: you should chastise whoever did manage that server
[13:21] <wasanzy> ThinkT510: you are right, but right now I don't even knows who manages it may be my boss but well he only said, install php and mysql
[13:21] <Guest29043> *** I'm trying to start fresh with Ubuntu, but don't know how to wipe HDD clean. Can someone help?
[13:21] <Matt__> And I'm also on 'try without install', I have the install running in the background trying again but it stuck so I came here
[13:21] <wasanzy> so what option do I have left?
[13:21] <cfhowlett> Guest29043, just format the hdd when you install
[13:22] <Guest29043> i installed it using the web sintaller
[13:22] <Guest29043> i didnt see an option.. i missed it?
[13:22] <cfhowlett> Guest29043, web installer?  in ubuntu?
[13:22] <histo> test4: I don't know of a simple way perhaps someone else will?  But I would start ls -h  in his home and moving some of the .gnomexxxx directories to .gnomeback and .gconf etc...
[13:22] <wasanzy> and how do I check if the machine is actually running ubuntu server version? command I mean
[13:22] <_Rocky_> Guest29043: You will have an option called "Use entire hard disk" or something like that
[13:22] <histo> test4: I would start with .gconf
[13:22] <histo> wasanzy: uname -a
[13:22] <wasanzy> oh right
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Guest29043, you mean the wubi/windows installer?
[13:23] <wasanzy> Linux accounts 2.6.35.4-rscloud #8 SMP Mon Sep 20 15:54:33 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:23] <Guest29043> yup
[13:23] <wasanzy> I think is a cloud server
[13:23] <Guest29043> so go back to windows and 'use entire disk'?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> Guest29043, fyi, wubi is designed for testing ubuntu, not long term installation.  If you want windows and ubuntu, I'd urge you to consider virtualbox or dual booting.
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  lsb_release -sd <-- does it say "server" ?
[13:24] <test4> histo i got it..near clock program was running where i can set universal access settings or something. dno what it is in english exactly.
[13:24] <Guest29043> k, i have a portable drive, i can use that instead of a usb stick right?
[13:25] <wasanzy> Ubuntu 10.10
[13:25] <Matt__> Guest29043: You could install it to a USB drive and choose 'Erase everything and install' in the installation
[13:25] <wasanzy> it didn't say server
[13:25] <histo> test4: Oh yeah disability settings duh sorry I dind't htink of that.
[13:25] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, yes but you'll have to be careful with configuration
[13:25] <test4> histo there was an option about pressing key have to hold it long to accept the key or something.. system is not in english..
[13:25] <histo> Guest29043: yes they are the same
[13:25] <Guest29043> boom, thanks everyone
[13:25] <test4> histo thanks for help anyways :)
[13:25] <wasanzy> in this case what option do I have in terms of upgrading?
[13:25] <histo> test4: np
[13:26] <histo> wasanzy: Who is administering the server?
[13:26] <butch128> I was (attempting) to install the latest Nvidia binary drivers.  Now logging into my machine as my main account (butch) just flickers and goes back to the original login screen.  Logging in as my Guest account works fine though.... Any idea what I can check?
[13:26] <histo> wasanzy: locally
[13:26] <wasanzy> I don't really know
[13:26] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, again, clean install to a supported version is your best bet ...
[13:26] <histo> wasanzy: okay well if you had to hard reset the system how would you accomplish that?
[13:26] <keelG> butch128: have you checked syslog?
[13:27] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: then you need to find out and get physical access to it
[13:27] <butch128> keelG - i will now, thanks
[13:27] <wasanzy> what is the physical access for? I mean what is the person suppose to do? clean install?
[13:28] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: to clean install yes
[13:28] <wasanzy> ok, let me discuss with my boss and see
[13:29] <histo> wasanzy: That's your best option you can try to upgrade but it's going to break and you will lose connection anyways.
[13:29] <histo> wasanzy: actually I don't even thing you can try to upgrade I belive 11.04 is EOL too let me check
[13:29] <Matt__> So does anyone know why the Ubuntu 12.04.1 install keeps getting stuck after "Where are you?" and 'Almost done copying files' ?
[13:29] <butch128> Jan 28 01:55:42 ubuntu-desktop gnome-session[3796]: WARNING: Session 'ubuntu' runnable check failed: Exited with code 1
[13:29] <butch128> could that be it?
[13:30] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, 11.04 is EOL.  You're options are quite limited ...
[13:30] <histo> Matt__: yes I would check the USB for errors
[13:31] <sara_ubuntu> can any1 guide me how to troubleshoot  : sda2 linux installation not show in grub , http://paste.ubuntu.com/1569356/  , grub-update doesn't help
[13:31] <histo> Matt__: can you hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console while it's stuck?
[13:31] <histo> !grub2 | sara_ubuntu
[13:31] <wasanzy> the server I learn is a cloud server at Rackspace
[13:32] <Matt__> histo: Yes, I can use Ctrl+Alt+F1
[13:32] <ThinkT510> sara_ubuntu: while it might not help you i just wanted to say you might need to consider upgrading your 10.04 install, desktop support runs out in april
[13:32] <sara_ubuntu> thanks histo let me check
[13:32] <histo> Matt__: hit ctrl+alt+f4
[13:32] <wasanzy> so I guess you understand my situation now? at this point, I guess I only need to upgrade
[13:32] <wasanzy> running a command
[13:33] <nicestAdie> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST
[13:33] <Matt__> histo: Ok
[13:33] <sara_ubuntu> thanks ThinkT510 but i just want to be able to boot into it ... i just need some guidence how to add manually an os in grub2
[13:33] <histo> Matt__: any errors there?
[13:33] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: that will be a royal headache
[13:33] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, not like your system will spontaneously crash or anything but for any kind of support or to access updated features, yes an upgrade is required.
[13:33] <C-S-B> Since setting up ipv6, my static ipv4 address keeps renewing to a different IP to static assignment in network manager
[13:33] <Chilix> spa
[13:33] <Matt__> histo: No, just 'Welcome to Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS' and *Documentation
[13:34] <Chilix> !Spanish
[13:34] <wasanzy> ThinkT510: yes I agree with you but I don't have any other option left
[13:34] <histo> Matt__: ctrl+alt+F7 will get you back to GUI  can you use keyboard keys to navigate the options?
[13:34] <wasanzy> cfhowlett: yes upgrade is what I want to do, what how to go about it is my question now, just ssh access to the server
[13:34] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, take your time and access the resources at #ubuntu-server
[13:35] <Matt__> histo: Ctrl+Alt+F1 says something about 'Asking for cache data failed' a few times
[13:35] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, there is the PXE network install method but I have never done so can't advise
[13:35] <wasanzy> what will "do-release-upgrade"  upgrade to at this time?
[13:36] <iceroot> wasanzy: depending on your settings
[13:36] <Matt__> histo: I'm using Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to GUI, and yes, I'm using my keyboard and mouse here, but on the install window, it's just the O loading cursor
[13:36] <iceroot> wasanzy: nothing, to the next stable release, to the next lts-release
[13:36] <iceroot> wasanzy: to the next lts is only working when you are on an older lts
[13:36] <_Rocky_> wasanzy: Can you create a new empty partition?
[13:36] <histo> Matt__: did you select a timezone?
[13:37] <wasanzy> iceroot: what settings do I need? and where do I set it?
[13:37] <_Rocky_> wasanzy: If you can, you can do a fresh install on that partition, configure all your programs and boot into that
[13:37] <wasanzy> _Rocky_: No
[13:37] <hillary_> ThinkT510: how do i locate the ppa
[13:37] <Matt__> histo: It gets stuck right after selecting a time zone. The loading bar at the bottom goes away after 'Almost done copying files' and it gets stuck indefinately
[13:38] <Matt__> histo:I've left it there for hours and no progress
[13:38] <ThinkT510> hillary_: i don't use ppas so i can't help you sorry
[13:38] <wasanzy> _Rocky_: I can't create partition, what I only want right now is to be able to install mysql and php for them
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  system settings, sources, other software
[13:39] <antonio_> does anyone know how to install adobe air on 12.10?
[13:39] <hillary_> MonkeyDust: ok let me try
[13:39] <lapdis> what is the best text-editor to use in a terminal if I am more used to notepad than vim?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, can I suggest something?  download the LTS 12.04, create a boot USB, reboot and go into the USB and figure out your stuff.  Then duplicate your configs and install on your actual machine
[13:40] <ThinkT510> cfhowlett: its a rackspace cloud server
[13:40] <histo> Matt__: Well what is the caching error?  Also maybe look around /tmp for an install log. I'm not sure where they are saving it now.
[13:40] <cfhowlett> ThinkT510, errr, disregard my suggestions
[13:40] <wasanzy> ok
[13:41] <_Rocky_> lapdis: I suggest emacs. small learning curve involved but it pays off really well.
[13:41] <wasanzy> this is really killing my brain
[13:41] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, it's solvable, man.  Just not easy.
[13:42] <wasanzy> cfhowlett: ok, but I don't know what settings I need before running the command : do-release-upgrade
[13:42] <wasanzy> and lsb_release -sd didn't see it is a server version too
[13:42] <Matt__> histo: I'm not sure, it just says that followed by 'assuming drive cache: Write through'
[13:42] <wasanzy> didn't say I mean
[13:43] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:44] <_Rocky_> lapdis: infact, I am chatting with you through emacs :)
[13:44] <histo> Matt__: I would look for an install log. Or ask here.  What version of ubuntu are you installing by the way?
[13:44] <antonio_> does anyone know how to install adobe air on 12.10?
[13:44] <hillary_> MonkeyDust: After removing all the ppa i run update?
[13:44] <wasanzy> any more suggestion?
[13:44] <lapdis> :O
[13:44] <Matt__> histo: 12.04.1 LTS, and how do I find an insall log?
[13:45] <histo> Matt__: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/ch06s01.html
[13:45] <daniel_mum> @
[13:45] <ThinkT510> lapdis: nano is a simple terminal text-editor
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  update and reboot to make sure
[13:45] <Matt__> histo: Oh sorry, it's 12.04.1 LTS x64
[13:46] <histo> Matt__: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/graphical.html
[13:46] <hillary_> MonkeyDust: ok Thanks will inform you the results
[13:48] <wasanzy> Eeeesh, do-release-upgrade is not even installed on the machine
[13:48] <_Rocky_> antonio_: download air installer .bin from adobe website and run it as super user
[13:49] <antonio_> _Rocky_: its a 32 bit version..I'm on 64
[13:51] <wasanzy> hello apt-get upgrade on upgraded some of the software but not the OS
[13:52] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, upgrade is not release-update
[13:52] <wasanzy> help me then because am lost
[13:53] <histo> wasanzy: You can't upgrade the software they repos you are trying to upgrade from are no longer online.
[13:53] <histo> wasanzy: hence it's end of life
[13:53] <wasanzy> I though do-release-upgrade should have come with the distro by default but is not
[13:53] <Pici> !eolupgrades
[13:53] <histo> Pici: we've tried explaining that already
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy   start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[13:53] <Pici> histo: ah
[13:54] <Pici> histo: just passing through ;)
[13:54] <histo> ahh
[13:54] <cfhowlett> wasanzy, trying to send you a cheat sheet ...
[13:54] <histo> wasanzy: we've all offered numerous suggestions on how to solve your problem. Please stop asking
[13:55] <wasanzy> histo: I understand but the problem is not solved
[13:56] <mrrrr> hello :)
[13:56] <mrrrr> i wonder how i can block/turn off the wifi hardware
[13:57] <histo> wasanzy: Yes because you refuse to accept the truth.
[13:57] <histo> wasanzy: YOU CAN"T UPGRADE FROM 10.10
[13:57] <histo> mrrrr: is this on a laptop?
[13:57] <mrrrr> yes
[13:58] <aim__> hai
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  you'll have to do a fresh install, or tell the maintainer to do it
[13:58] <mrrrr> fn+f2 isnt working
[13:58] <histo> mrrrr: look around for a hardware switch or function key combination. Most laptops have them. is one way
[13:59] <histo> mrrrr: look in your bios to disable it.  Or you can blacklist the driver it's using.
[14:00] <mrrrr> histo: no switches, and function key aint working
[14:00] <mrrrr> k will look in bios brb
[14:00] <domie> what about rfkill
[14:01] <histo> domie: there are many ways of doing it.
[14:04] <zse> czesc wszustkim
[14:04] <cfhowlett> zse, english???
[14:04] <kostkon> !pl | zse
[14:05] <arooni-mobile> i have a thinkpad t420; i want to charge my usb devices when ubuntu is in susspend mode.  ubuntu versoin 12.10. ..... ideas?
[14:06] <mrrrr> hey i turned it off in bios so now i cant find it in the tray, the light is still on tho
[14:08] <histo> mrrrr: rfkill
[14:09] <mrrrr> k
[14:10] <wor> ej goście
[14:10] <Pici> !pl | wor
[14:10] <wor> napewno !!
[14:16] <hillary> MonkeyDust: i have reboot and now saying update available 2.4mb
[14:18] <wasanzy> histo: ok thank you
[14:18] <wasanzy> but why can't I upgrade from 10.10?
[14:19] <ThinkT510> wasanzy: because it is eol, the repos were repurposed
[14:19] <xkernel> does gnome-panel uses GTk3 ?
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> wasanzy  because it's no LTS and the version following 10.10 is also no longer available
[14:19] <wasanzy> ok
[14:20] <Pici> Technically you should be able to use old-releases, but you're not going to have a good time doing that
[14:20] <nicestAdie> WOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> nicestAdie  are you a bot?
[14:26] <Gadget> Good Morning! Is anyone home?
[14:27] <wor> hi
[14:28] <_Rocky_> yup Gadget and wor, what bothers you?
[14:28] <Gadget> Morning wor. I have the strangest graphical issue on my  dell 630 laptop with 12.10
[14:28] <nicestAdie> >:/
[14:29] <wor> not good
[14:29] <Gadget> The "Dash home" button causes a graphical error jacking up the entire screen.
[14:30] <Gadget> It only seems to happen when I click that button but everything else works right as rain. Has anyone else heard about anything regarding this?
[14:30] <wor> not good
[14:30] <ThinkT510> !screenshot | Gadget
[14:30] <stef1a> I'm wondering why lines 18 and 19 here don't result in the word "test" being echo'd over and over again, and what the proper syntax is for setting the string of a return value of a function to an array cell: http://pastebin.com/x2Fx2weK
[14:31] <ThinkT510> stef1a: might get a better response in #bash
[14:31] <stef1a> ThinkT510: thanks; will head over there.
[14:33] <HowdyDoody> I am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"
[14:33] <Gadget> Have to drive my wife to work. I'll post a SS when i get back. Thanks!
[14:34] <Matt__> histo: You still here?
[14:35] <ubuntu_demon> hey. I have a problem with an upgrade to ubuntu 12.04
[14:35] <ubuntu_demon> I pressed alt-tab during the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. Now I see my background but nothing else.  When I left for work this morning my disk was still working so I left it on.
[14:36] <intr0x80> I'm trying to get Grub2 to send its input/output to a serial port.  Does anyone have experience with this?  I have set GRUB_TERMINAL="serial" and have GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND="serial..." in /etc/default/grub, but it still does not work. Any ideas?
[14:36] <ubuntu_demon> Is there a way to get the focus back to the upgrade process ?  I am able to go to a ctrl-alt-f1 and type commands.  I would rather not do a reboot.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_demon  try alt-tab agzin
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> again*
[14:36] <wor> uhjuhhjuhuj
[14:36] <ubuntu_demon> MonkeyDust should alt-tab work in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[14:37] <wor> fuck me now
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu_demon  go ahead and try
[14:37] <ubuntu_demon> I will when I get back home tonight\
[14:38] <ubuntu_demon> i made this thread to describe my problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2109628
[14:38] <wor> dobrze
[14:38] <ubuntu_demon> I found multiple people who have had the same problem
[14:38] <Matt__> yes, Alt+Tab works in 12.04
[14:38] <mrrrr> u guys know a good way to check for activity on my network
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> mrrrr: ntop
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> mrrrr: or wireshark
[14:39] <ubuntu_demon> Would there be any other way to get back to the upgrade window if alt-tab doesnt work ?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: drag the others out of the way, maybe.
[14:39] <mrrrr> action ty
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: if you hold ALT, you can drag from any point on the application windows
[14:40] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: I don't see any other windows. I only see my empty background. no butons/files/icons or whatever
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: so the installer window has vanished?
[14:41] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: everything has vanished
[14:41] <dr_willis> sounds like it krashed
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: is this in an installed OS?
[14:41] <Matt__> http://imagebin.org/244534 Does anyone know how to fix this freeze-up in 12.04.1 LTS x64 installation?
[14:41] <beowulf2> any good games out their for linux? i'm looking for something simple and addictive, like a small racing game or something like Worms (PC)
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> beowulf2: super tux kart
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> beowulf2: urban terror
[14:42] <thomas____> Can anybody help me please?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> beowulf2: frozen bubble
[14:42] <thomas____> I'm running a GTX 660 Ti and can't get it to work
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> beowulf2: there is a worms clone with hedgehogs and penguins, i forget its name
[14:43] <thomas____> I have already tried downloading from other ppas (x-edgers and x-swat)
[14:43] <ThinkT510> beowulf2: warmux or hedgewars
[14:43] <thomas____> jockey isn't working either
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: does your CPU use sandy or ivy bridge?
[14:43] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: this is during an upgrade from Ubuntu 11.10 to Ubuntu 12.04 using the graphical update manager tool
[14:43] <thomas____> AMD Phenom
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: tried:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current; sudo nvidia-xconfig    then rebooting?
[14:44] <thomas____> tried that a million times
[14:44] <thomas____> with different nvidia-currents installed
[14:44] <thomas____> nvidia-xconfig doesn't give an error tho
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: have you read through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues?
[14:44] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: I have descibed the entire situation here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12478410
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: if you reboot, does it help?
[14:46] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: I don't want to reboot ... it's in the middle of upgrading
[14:46] <danman1453> i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 yesterday, I cant access my network share (access denied), and it wont load to the gui. It starts, but then backs out to a boot screen with something about a battery check?
[14:47] <danman1453> can i get some help with this?
[14:47] <dr_willis> danman1453:  thats proberly just the last message befor it fails..  not a clue as to why its failinbg
[14:47] <thomas____> http://pastebin.com/GX0FRw2u
[14:47] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: if there is absolutely no way to get back to my upgrade window I will go to control+alt+f1 and try to finish the upgrade manually before rebooting
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: not sure dude, I always clean install so have no idea about upgrade issues
[14:47] <dr_willis> danman1453:  login to the console if you can . test with startx - see if it loads
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: could run ccsm (I assume you are using compiz) and enable the ring switcher, may help#
[14:47] <danman1453> if i ctrl-alt-f1, i can login and start startx
[14:48] <danman1453> startx loads fine.
[14:48] <danman1453> sorta.... a lot of my options seem to have changed.
[14:48] <danman1453> My load time to access /meda/FreeAgent\ Drive has gone WAY up
[14:48] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: but you do know about unity key combinations ... unity is new for me ... I have always used Ubuntu 10.04 and Ubuntu 10.10
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_demon: know about...in what way?
[14:49] <thomas____> Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[14:49] <thomas____> Linux Wiedijk-Ubuntu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:31:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:50] <danman1453> dr_willis, as a side note, if i access another network share hosted on that pc, a folder on the main hd, i can access it fine.
[14:50] <ubuntu_demon> ActionParsnip: maybe you know some keycombinations which might get me my window back :)\
[14:50] <ubuntu_demon> :)
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: did you try with an xorg.conf file. Seems the monitor probing is failing '(WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[14:50] <danman1453> just not the external hd
[14:51] <danman1453> I can pastebin my bootlog if it would help dr_willis
[14:51] <thomas____> ActionParsnip: And how can I make one
[14:51] <thomas____> using nvidia-xconfig?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: sudo nvidia-xconfig     makes one
[14:52] <thomas____> I ran that already a thousand times
[14:52] <dr_willis> then you should have a thousand of them ;)
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: you can then run:  gksudo nvidia-settings    and set the res and refresh to something
[14:53] <thomas____> nvidia-settings says I(m not using the nvidia driver
[14:55] <danman1453> dr_willis, I also discovered I cant change permissions as sudo for my external usb hd.
[14:55] <thomas____> ActionParsnip: any more ideas?
[14:56] <danman1453> using chmod a+wxr /media/FreeAgent\ Drive, it appears to finish, but there are no changes
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: i can give you mine, it may help. when the driver gets loaded, you can start tweaking
[14:57] <dagerik> dan: -a is nit all
[14:57] <thomas____> ActionParsnip: yo
[14:57] <thomas____> toops
[14:57] <thomas____> oops
[14:58] <thomas____> goddamn
[14:58] <thomas____> I meant: ActionParsnip: you can always try
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> thomas____: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/xorg.conf
[14:59] <thomas____> hmm
[14:59] <thomas____> 'nvidia' isn't even mentioned
[14:59] <dr_willis> danman1453:  what filesystgem is it?
[14:59] <jhutchins_wk> .
[14:59] <danman1453> ntfs i think.
[14:59] <danman1453> its a 1.5tb drive
[14:59] <dr_willis> danman1453:   you dont chown/chmod ntfs/cfat
[14:59] <dr_willis> cfat
[15:00] <danman1453> ok?
[15:00] <danman1453> is the ntfs access broken after my upgrade?
[15:00] <dr_willis> see if root user can access it and write to it
[15:00] <dr_willis> or mount it by hand with the ntfs-3g command
[15:01] <danman1453> i can cd into it with no problems from ssh as su
[15:01] <jhutchins_wk> danman1453: You set the permissions in the fstab entry that defines the mount.
[15:01] <Gadget> Test
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !test | Gadget
[15:02] <danman1453> i just checked, i can make new directories on it too.
[15:02] <danman1453> fstab?
[15:02] <ThinkT510> !fstab | danman1453
[15:03] <dr_willis> so its mounted and working. ;)
[15:03]  * dr_willis frogets what the original problem was..
[15:03] <danman1453> as superuser, yes
[15:03] <danman1453> there is no entry for it in /etc/fstab
[15:03] <dr_willis> its automounted by the fuse/udev stuff.
[15:04] <danman1453> ok
[15:04] <danman1453> so why are the permissions screwed after the update?
[15:04] <danman1453> does it have something to do with the broken boot sequence?
[15:05] <Gadget> Good Morning. I was here earlier and I was having a graphical issue whenever I click the "dash home" button on the upper right hand corner of my desktop. I've uploaded a screenshot here: http://postimage.org/image/4t3jo6cnb/ would anyone know why this might be happening?
[15:06] <Gadget> I googled it earlier and tried to find a solution but didn't come up with any answers. I'm running 32bit 12.10 fully updated.
[15:07] <Gadget> On a fresh install on a Dell Latitude D630
[15:07] <Gadget> Otherwise all system operations are performing correctly- only when i click that button do i receive a graphical issue.
[15:08] <sgtkilljoy> Gadget: vid card? drivers installed?
[15:09] <Gadget> Under driver it says "unknown" should i go to the Dell website and download the latest drivers for the laptop?
[15:09] <danman1453> dr_willis, ok, i have determined it is in fact ntfs using blkid. I am looking over the fstab page you posted to add it to the fstab options.
[15:09] <sgtkilljoy> Gadget: no, my i pm u?
[15:09] <sgtkilljoy> may*
[15:09] <danman1453> The fstab page says that external "flash" drive are usually mounted by gnome
[15:10] <Gadget> Sure! Thanks for the help.
[15:10] <danman1453> but can be mounted in fstab
[15:10] <Gadget> How do i make my text red?
[15:10] <Gadget> Sorry- never use IRC.
[15:10] <iceroot> danman1453: what "gnome" is doinig (its not gnome) is mounting the device when the user is loggeg in and the device is only mounted for that user
[15:11] <iceroot> danman1453: with fstab you are mounting something at boot for everyone and dont need a graphical login first
[15:12] <iceroot> Gadget: there is no reason to use colored text here
[15:13] <danman1453> dr_willis, do i have to reboot to reload the fstab entries?
[15:14] <danman1453> also, what is the -3g tag on ntfs-3g do?
[15:14] <mrrrr> good firewall for linux?
[15:16] <iceroot> mrrrr: iptables
[15:16] <iceroot> !ufw | mrrrr
[15:16] <iceroot> danman1453: Third Generation Read/Write NTFS Driver
[15:16] <iceroot> danman1453: also see "man ntfs-3g"
[15:17] <danman1453> ok
[15:17] <danman1453> hang on..... its rebooting.
[15:17] <Guest23204> anyone on who can help me,i have a prob with the amd fglrx drivers
[15:17] <Guest23204> can't seem to install it
[15:17] <Guest23204> apt-get can't find it
[15:17] <danman1453> fyi, the server is headless in the basement.
[15:17] <iceroot> !ati | Guest23204
[15:17] <danman1453> so, most of what i do is over ssh
[15:17] <nibbler> ...if i only had ONE problem with my ati... >:-(
[15:18] <nibbler> anyway - ssh -R, how can i make the tunnel bind to 0.0.0.0 or any public IP instead of lo/127.0.0.1 on the target server of the ssh connection?
[15:18] <Guest23204> can anyone tell me is there a channel only for graphic probs
[15:18] <Guest23204> ?
[15:19] <luvs-lightw8> Guest23204: Have you looked for "Additional Drivers" ?
[15:19] <Ginger26> nope
[15:19] <tqrst> has anyone else had issues with the dropbox daemon silently dying for no apparent reason? "dropbox start" gets it back up for a while, but this sometimes results in data loss because of sync issues.
[15:19] <Guest23204> yep
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest23204  it's faster to just ask here and wait
[15:19] <Guest23204> something is not right with the linux itself
[15:19] <Guest23204> can't even find hal for some reason
[15:19] <luvs-lightw8> what're you looking for hal for?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> !hal | Guest23204
[15:20] <iceroot> Guest23204: hal is not used anymore
[15:20] <ThinkT510> Guest23204: hal has been depreciated for years
[15:20] <martti> what, seriously that thing is still around?
[15:20] <Guest23204> i mean the HArdware Manager
[15:20] <iceroot> Guest23204: GNU/Linux is using udev now
[15:20] <BluesKaj> tqrst, do you have dropboxd script setup in startup settings ?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest23204  better start from the beginning, what have you tried and what went wrong?
[15:21] <tqrst> BluesKaj: no, but I've had the daemon die while still logged in
[15:22] <Guest23204> Ok so i tried to get the fglrx drivers for my Ati Radeon HD 5750
[15:22] <tqrst> BluesKaj: annoyingly enough, there doesn't seem to be any logs anywhere
[15:22] <Guest23204> but it failed
[15:22] <Guest23204> can't find them
[15:23] <Guest23204> so i downloaded them manually from ubuntus site
[15:23] <Guest23204> from the how to
[15:23] <Guest23204> failed again,says it can't find the driver
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Guest23204  don't hit enter too often, keep it in one line
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[15:24] <martti> unelievable people still do that...
[15:24] <Guest23204> sorry,getting carried away a bit,anyway i tried with the software sources
[15:24] <martti> Guest23204: what software sources, what error message, what driver did you put where?
[15:25] <sgtkilljoy> Guest22700: ur card is no longer surrported by fglrx
[15:26] <martti> hmm, interesting. watching you handle this could help me with a similar problem.
[15:26] <Guest23204> it can see my graphic card,and i selected the fglrx driver,so it says 1 proprietary driver in use
[15:26] <danman1453> dr_willis, boot sequence still fails after battery check. i suspect it is graphics related... I changed video cards for just that reason for 11.04
[15:27] <danman1453> is there an error log somewhere i can see to check what is failing where?
[15:27] <joseneto> My microsoft Lifecam is not working in any video chat aplications like skype or even cheese
[15:27] <Guest23204> but when i go to details,it still says unknown driver in graphics,and my graphic card would not work
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> !webcam > joseneto
[15:27] <joseneto> ubottu, how do i do that ?
[15:29] <jtate> I'm trying to build pytest for precise.  I've branched it locally, and run uupdate to bump the version to the latest 2.3.4 (from 2.3.2), but bzr doesn't know about the directory created by uupdate, so refuses to builddeb.  What's the step that I'm missing?
[15:30] <jackinacker> Thank you for helping! Updating the graphical drivers is exactly what I neeeded.
[15:30] <jackinacker> Now working as intended.
[15:31] <Guest23204> ok i will restart the pc,i might have done something right after all,see ya in a minute :D
[15:34] <erle-> why is middle mouse button pasting again?
[15:34] <erle-> how do i stop it from that?
[15:34] <erle-> it wasnt a while ago
[15:34] <erle-> ubuntu 12.10 here
[15:35] <ThinkT510> erle-: that is a xorg feature, anything you highlight gets pasted on middle-click
[15:35] <danman1453> where are the start on login scripts located?
[15:35] <erle-> ThinkT510, i know, but ubuntu had it deactivated in previous versions
[15:37] <parvesh-babu> hi
[15:38] <zykotick9> erle-: i think you must be mistaken.  i don't think ubuntu would disable Xorg's paste...
[15:38] <ThinkT510> zykotick9 +1
[15:39] <martti> erle-: try gpointing-device-settings maybe
[15:41] <joseneto> My microsoft Lifecam is not working in any video chat aplications like skype or even cheese
[15:42] <Tera_Giga_MegS> I tried installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 32 bit, but when I get to this
[15:42] <Tera_Giga_MegS> and hit forward I get taken to a prompt where it says "No root file system is defined." I don't even get to any part about partitioning, and there is nothing for me to choose or select from
[15:43] <joseneto> My microsoft Lifecam is not working in any video chat aplications like skype or even cheese
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | joseneto
[15:43] <martti> joseneto: do something about it.
[15:44] <joseneto> im trying but i dont know what to do
[15:44] <PokemonAcer> hello
[15:45] <Tera_Giga_MegS> http://askubuntu.com/questions/135705/no-root-file-system-is-defined-error-during-installation  got my answer thanks
[15:45] <APEMAYA_> ciao
[15:45] <APEMAYA_> !list
[15:47] <BluesKaj> tqrst, Alt+F2 then gnome-session-properties , see if the dropboxd  ( daemon ) is in the list
[15:47] <joseneto> martti: what can i do to solve the problem
[15:47] <tqrst> BluesKaj: yep
[15:48] <martti> joseneto: type lsusb, if it's connected on usb... then try finding out the necessary steps if it's listed
[15:49] <PokemonAcer> Hey, did you know that if you use wubi from the discs you can send of for, you CANNOT install it with windows
[15:49] <BluesKaj> tqrst, do you have the icon in your panel at startup? and if so is there no indicator when it disconnects ?
[15:49] <PokemonAcer> You have to download the wubi installer from ubuntu.com
[15:49] <tqrst> BluesKaj: there's a gray dropbox icon in the panel, which I've never seen in any other colour than plain gray
[15:50] <|nv|s|b|e> lol, using wubi is like towing a mack truck with a volkswagon
[15:50] <FlowRiser> !hi
[15:50] <joseneto> martti: tis the output Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[15:50] <joseneto> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:50] <joseneto> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[15:50] <joseneto> Bus 001 Device 020: ID 045e:0772 Microsoft Corp. LifeCam Studio
[15:50] <joseneto> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 192f:0616 Avago Technologies, Pte.
[15:50] <FloodBot1> joseneto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <FlowRiser> hi
[15:50] <joseneto> sorry
[15:50] <tqrst> BluesKaj: and "startup" is a bit of a weird concept to me, as I rarely if ever log out
[15:50] <martti> joseneto: do you see it?
[15:51] <PokemonAcer> I actually  have 3 Ubuntu CD's I got for free
[15:51] <joseneto> yes
[15:51] <joseneto> marttu yes
[15:51] <martti> I guess it has device id 20 because you kept connecting and disconnecting it. smart idea.
[15:51] <joseneto> martti: but i dont know what to do from there
[15:52] <PokemonAcer> wait, I just looked at Ubuntu Server download, It actually sais that 12.04 will be supported longer than 12.10 WTF???
[15:52] <escott> !lts | PokemonAcer
[15:52] <martti> joseneto: https://www.google.ch/search?q=045e%3A0772+cam+driver+on+linux "appears to work"
[15:52] <BluesKaj> tqrst, hmm, that's wrong , run , dropbox status..  in the terminal
[15:52] <tqrst> BluesKaj: says it's running
[15:53] <tqrst> BluesKaj: (well, "Idle", but syncing works etc)
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> PokemonAcer  and mind your language
[15:53] <PokemonAcer> Sorry
[15:53] <craigbass1976> I don't know what the proper term is, may ungroup.  Is there a way to ungroup windows so that I can alt+tab quickly through multiple instances of the same app ?
[15:53] <PokemonAcer> But, for example when the new Ubuntu Comes out, 12.10 will be a LTS?
[15:54] <BluesKaj> tqrst, dropbox start ..what happens ?
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> PokemonAcer  no, 14.04 will be the next LTS
[15:54] <tqrst> BluesKaj: "To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url:"
[15:54] <PokemonAcer> Aaah
[15:54] <PokemonAcer> akso, about my language, ill do stars next time
[15:55] <tqrst> BluesKaj: "dropbox stop" gives "Dropbox daemon stopped", then if I start again, I get "Starting dropbox...done!"
[15:55] <BluesKaj> tq did you go thru the link process/wizard after installing dropbox
[15:55] <BluesKaj> tqrst, ^
[15:55] <tqrst> BluesKaj: yes
[15:55] <tqrst> and dropbox *is* running
[15:55] <tqrst> it just dies once in a while
[15:56] <tqrst> everything else works fine
[15:56] <BluesKaj> tqrst, it looks like the startup script isn't starting in your panel altho your install seems ok ...strange
[15:58] <tyler_d> I just updated jdk and as a result cannot get skype to run
[15:59] <tyler_d> errors are http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1582484/
[15:59] <tqrst> BluesKaj: I don't understand what startup scripts have to do with a machine that's been up for 45 days
[15:59] <Ghost1227> I'm getting a "required virtual size does not fit available size" error when trying to use dual monitors. This configuration has always worked before under older versions of Ubuntu as well as older, and current, versions of other distros. Any thoughts on what has changed?
[16:00] <tqrst> BluesKaj: I sent dropbox an email - maybe they'll have ideas
[16:01] <tellytubby> hi guys
[16:01] <BluesKaj> tqrst, maybe a reboot once in while will reload some updated config files , seems a lot of apps need a reboot lately
[16:01] <rumpel> hello. I can't unmount my thumbdrive (ntfs partition). Lsof/fuser/dmesg shows nothing. Did sync, still no luck. Any ideas?
[16:02] <danman1453> my lightdm greeter on boot is failing according to lightdm.log
[16:02] <BluesKaj> the uptime pi**ing contest deosn't mean much anymore , tqrst
[16:03] <MonkeyDust> rumpel  type sudo blkid, with the thumbdrive plugged in, do you see it
[16:03] <danman1453> would that cause my boot screen to hand at checking battery status?
[16:03] <rumpel> MonkeyDust, I do. It's mounted properly.
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> rumpel  misread it, you can't UNmount, sorry, try fuser -m [mount point]
[16:04] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: you're right, it's all about uptime % ;)
[16:05] <rumpel> MonkeyDust, nothing. I also tried lsof. Nothing shows up (also used sudo).
[16:05] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, I could care less about uptime ...I shut down almost every night
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> rumpel  and umout -f ?         (force)
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> rumpel  and umount -f ?         (force)
[16:08] <joseneto> martti didnt work, couldnt find anything helpfull
[16:08] <Pici> *umount
[16:08] <rumpel> MonkeyDust, still says that device is busy and unmounting is not possible.
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> rumpel  busy doing what, does it say? play music that's on it, for example?
[16:10] <rumpel> MonkeyDust, I wonder in which state the system will leave the filesystem if I shut down and not even using root permissions seems to allow unmounting it properly. :/
[16:10] <rumpel> MonkeyDust, that would probably show up using lsof/fuser i guess. Nothing seems to use the thumbdrive actually.
[16:12] <bipul> I am unable to connect Network Adaptor (Bridged) in my ubuntu 12.04.
[16:17] <Nvveen> Hi all, I'm having a very annoying problem. When I try to log into my account, unity doesn't load the panels, so my screen stays blank. Gnome 2 and cinnamon still work though. Anyone that can help me?
[16:17] <Nvveen> Failing that, could someone then tell me how to reset Unity
[16:18] <Nvveen> ?
[16:18] <joseneto>  martti didnt work, couldnt find anything helpfull
[16:18] <escott> Nvveen, dont use unity myself but i always thought it was unity --reset
[16:19] <Nvveen> escott, that's deprecated (gives me an error), and using dconf reset doesn't do anything either
[16:19] <Nvveen> I also tried apt-get install --reinstall unity-common unity unity-2d but that doesn't have an effect either
[16:20] <dapaca> Is that channel suporting also ubuntu studio
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> dapaca  #ubuntustudio
[16:21] <Nvveen> Also,when I opened the compiz config manager ccsm in Gnome, the Unity plugin wasn't enabled. Enabling it and the dependencies didn't work though
[16:24] <Nvveen> Anyone?
[16:24] <habstinat> I tried to install Ubuntu (or rather, Edubuntu) via Wubi but it failed. Here is the logfile: <http://paste.ubuntu.com/1582651/> What could be causing it to fail? How can it be fixed?
[16:25] <danman1453> stupid upgrades..... >:O
[16:26] <Nvveen> Oh yeah, after a few minutes of the blank screen a 'system program problem detected' message pops up, and if I report the error, it says /usr/bin/Xorg is the culprit, but the Xorg log files don't say anything
[16:27] <beowulf2> 6 “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven.
[16:27] <beowulf2> 2 “Thus, when you give to the needy, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.
[16:27] <beowulf2> oop
[16:27] <beowulf2> s
[16:27] <FloodBot1> beowulf2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:27] <beowulf2> wrong paste
[16:28] <coz> I have seen bug reports on the screen flickering with nouveau as well as nvidia on 12.04,, has anyone come up with solutions?
[16:29] <omen__> Hello
[16:30] <katsumeblisk> coz: I've only had screen flickering on the kernel used in 12.04 with nouveau. Proprietary drivers fixes it. Also, the kernel in 12.10 fixed it for me too.
[16:30] <katsumeblisk> coz: nouveau in 12.10's kernel^^
[16:30] <danman1453> my lightdm x-0-greeter.log says permission denied to /var/lib/lightdm/.xauthority   ..... there is no .Xauthority in that folder?
[16:30] <coz> katsumeblisk,  interesting, the kernel updates on 12.04 here have made it worse.. and I have clean installed several times with the same results :(
[16:31] <katsumeblisk> coz: What GPU? I have a GTX 560 Ti.
[16:31] <coz> katsumeblisk,  7600gt
[16:31] <danman1453> nvm
[16:31] <coz> katsumeblisk,  I dont like 12.10 much
[16:31] <craigbass1976> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/989272  Has anyone seen a way to address this, other than switching off to XFCE?
[16:32] <omen__> Any one have any info on putting java on 12.04 ubuntu server 32-bit? the ways i have found cause a error ValueError: cannot convert float NaN to integer
[16:32] <coz> katsumeblisk,  thanks for the info thoughm :)
[16:32] <coz> though
[16:33] <coz> omen__,  are you using the ppa for oracle java 8 ?
[16:33] <tomemozok> Hi all the guy with the driver problems here.I have a bigger problem now.ubuntu starts without the launch bar on the left,and a lot of strange lines are appearing on screen.i did manage to install the proprietary drivers,but can't do anything else now.What to do now?can anyone help me?
[16:34] <omen__> im rather new to ubuntu server the command i used was sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[16:34] <coz> tomemozok, nvidia?
[16:34] <tomemozok> P.s. I am on my phone now,since smuxi can't br opened from my terminal for some reason...might go slow with typing
[16:34] <tomemozok> Nope ati
[16:35] <coz> tomemozok,  I definitly cant help,, I have always been an nvidia guy sorry, I know others here have much more expertise with ati than I do
[16:35] <tomemozok> Specifically Ati radeon HD 5750 with fglrx installed now.
[16:35] <studdugie> Hello. Apport keeps pop up and complaining the evolution data server is crashing. Since I don't use evolution for anything I uninstalled it which also uninstalls (w/o warning me first) the clock panel applet. Is there a way to keep the clock panel applet and remove evolution?
[16:35] <coz> omen__,  did you then do   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:36] <coz> omen__,  then  sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[16:37] <omen__> trying now
[16:37] <dapaca> thak yuo <MonkeyDust> I go there but hence ubuntu studio is running on sweat ubuntu community. I would like to thank you all about this awesome piece of software and Mr Linus to make it available for everybody. It is my first day on linux and I hope that is just a beginning of it. So all the best to everybody and I hope to learn it and share it
[16:38] <coz> omen__,  depending on internet speed, the installation can take from 45 seconds to several minutes
[16:38] <iceroot> i am getting tar: .: Cannot change mode to rwxr-xr-x: Operation not permitted  on a directory with rwxrwxrwx (tar will be run as others), why am i getting that error when tar is trying to extract files? others have rwx.
[16:38] <coz> omen__,  fios about 45 seconds
[16:39] <escott> iceroot, who will own the files extracted by tar
[16:40] <iceroot> escott: a user which is known on the system but is not the owner/group
[16:40] <Nvveen> Well, reinstalling the nvidia drivers didn't work, still no panels in Unity. Anyone able to help me?
[16:40] <escott> iceroot, but not the user who is doing the untarring?
[16:40] <tomemozok> Anyone knoes any channel for graphic problems?? Maybie i'll have more luck there...
[16:40] <iceroot> escott: yes the user hwich is executing tar
[16:40] <iceroot> escott: the user will own the files but he is in "others"
[16:40] <plover> I am having a very odd problem with the Ubuntu Studio desktop which I'm not even quite sure how to describe. When I boot, a previous session is being restored. However, the desktop is mostly nonfunctional.  No windows have a top title bar, and many of them have their menu bar glued into the desktop taskbar.  So far I haven't even been able to get a terminal window that I can use, but Firefox is running well enough that I can be here v
[16:41] <escott> iceroot, so "." is owned by alice:alice with permissions 777 and the files created by tar are owned by bob:bob who wants to change it to 755 but cannot
[16:41] <escott> ice, and the tar instance is running as bob:bob
[16:41] <iceroot> escott: correct
[16:41] <iceroot> escott: yes
[16:42] <escott> iceroot, and this is a standard POSIX compliant filesystem (ie not FAT/NTFS)
[16:42] <iceroot> escott: and if i get unix-permissions correct i am allowed because others have rwx
[16:42] <iceroot> escott: ext2
[16:42] <mathi> hey
[16:42] <escott> iceroot, weird. if you touch a file and then chmod it does that work
[16:43] <iceroot> escott: yes thats working fine, also a chmod 777 foobar is working fine but not the tar-command, also utime is failing because tar is unable to modify the time but that can be fixed with -m
[16:43] <CanDostu55> slm
[16:43] <coz> cant you do   sudo chown -R username  nameof file ?
[16:44] <lukasz__> is in GNOME CLASSIC option to search programs (key "win") like in Unity ?
[16:44] <omen__> coz thank you vvery much it seems to be installing with no errors
[16:44] <coz> omen__,  excellent
[16:44] <xangua> lukasz__: no
[16:45] <coz> lukasz__,  I think you may have to install gnome-search-tool   if I understand correctly
[16:45] <ert3go> Hello, my wifi keeps connecting and disconnecting at regular intervals.This has been going on since quite a while.Any solution?
[16:46] <iceroot> escott: as it seems rwx on others is not enough. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1582827/
[16:46] <Nvveen> Can anyone please help me with my Unity problem where my panels aren't appearing
[16:46] <Nvveen> ?
[16:46] <iceroot> escott: that is a default debian system and the same on ubuntu, so as it seems i get unix file permissions wrong
[16:47] <escott> iceroot, chowning is different
[16:47] <escott> iceroot, if i could chown anything then i could take ownership of a file, change the contents (its mine now) and then give it back
[16:47] <escott> chown always has to be initiated by the owner or by root
[16:48] <escott> iceroot, in this case though there shouldn't be any chowning going on. tar should create the file with bob as the owner
[16:48] <omen__> coz  java -version java version "1.8.0-ea" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0-ea-b73) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 25.0-b14, mixed mode) Thank you again
[16:48] <coz> omen__,  no problem
[16:49] <Rienzilla> 1/w 13
[16:49] <iceroot> escott: tar --no-same-owner
[16:49] <iceroot> escott: the users have different uids.... and tar is trying to do a chown for that user with the same name but a different uid
[16:49] <awisepilot> Hello - I was wondering if anyone on today is familar with troublshooting connecting to a KVM guest.
[16:49] <DoWhileGeek> when I open a terminal window theres no icon in the taskbar. Is there a fix for this?
[16:49] <objectlogic> hi
[16:49] <escott> iceroot, i thought you said that bob was unpacking an archive with contents that will be owned by bob
[16:50] <iceroot> escott: tared with bob uid 1000, untaring with bob uid 1001
[16:50] <iceroot> escott: and tar is trying to change it to uid 1000 because thats stored in the files
[16:50] <escott> iceroot, lol... then they aren't both bob
[16:50] <iceroot> escott: with -no-same-owner tar is using bob 1001
[16:50] <escott> but yes that will fail
[16:50] <iceroot> escott: different systems
[16:50] <objectlogic> abhören
[16:51] <awisepilot> I built the VM with vmbuilder
[16:51] <iceroot> escott: tar on the source - scp - untar
[16:51] <escott> iceroot, i suggest you get your uid/usernames aligned to avoid this mess in the future
[16:51] <jrib> bob uid 0 reporting in
[16:51] <iceroot> escott: tell that our sysadmins :)
[16:52] <jrib> iceroot, escott: if you extract as bob though shouldn't he end up as the owner (on the system he is extracting on)?
[16:53] <jrib> or... are we trying to do something else? :P
[16:53] <objectlogic> ja
[16:53] <objectlogic> hallo varnessa
[16:53] <objectlogic> xp
[16:54] <plover> Is it ok to repost my problem if no one has responded after a few minutes? I'm not really sure how this all works
[16:54] <iceroot> jrib: in this case tar is trying to use the permissions from the tar-file and not from the person which is starting the untar-process
[16:54] <objectlogic> das ist gut
[16:54] <iceroot> jrib: dont know why i thought default would be the user which is executing tar
[16:54] <llutz> !de | objectlogic stop random comments please
[16:54] <iceroot> !de | objectlogic
[16:55] <escott> jrib, no he is trying to preserve uid's that don't match across different systems
[16:55] <objectlogic> yes
[16:55] <jrib> escott: I see.  Let me read up
[16:55] <objectlogic> hello
[16:55] <escott> iceroot, who has root on this system?
[16:55] <alimj> Wir verstehen nur Bahnhof :: We only understand English language
[16:55] <iceroot> escott: not me
[16:56] <escott> iceroot, so some sysadmin just dumped ubuntu on here not thinking to create the users in the same order
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> objectlogic  type /join #ubuntu-de
[16:56] <iceroot> escott: the target is an old machine not part of the samba-domain
[16:56] <jrib> iceroot: why do you need to preserve the uid?
[16:56] <iceroot> jrib: i dont need it
[16:57] <iceroot> jrib: but as it seems tar is trying to do it as default
[16:57] <objectlogic> hello yes
[16:57] <escott> iceroot, still not an excuse. i would suggest waterboarding as a solution to your current problems or just pull their fingernails off
[16:57] <objectlogic> hello
[16:57] <llutz> objectlogic: Do you have any ubuntu support related question?
[16:57] <iceroot> jrib: -no-same-owner is working fine and the new uid is 1001 without that its trying to use 1000
[16:57] <escott> iceroot, but you have to tell tar to extract as the local uid not the specified uid
[16:57] <iceroot> escott: yes and i thought that would be the default
[16:57] <Nvveen> Is there a Unity irc channel?
[16:58] <iceroot> !alis | Nvveen
[16:58] <jrib> iceroot: are you using sudo or something?
[16:58] <iceroot> jrib: no
[16:58] <mathi> I installed vsftpd, it seems that I can connect through SFTP. Now I would like to have root permissions, because I need to change configuration files in /etc/asterisk
[16:58] <iceroot> jrib: tar mxfvz foo.tgz   executing as uid 1001 and the tgz contains files from uid 1000
[16:58] <jrib> iceroot: --no-same-owner is default unless it's done by superuser
[16:59] <mathi> anyone ?
[16:59] <rasp_pie> Hi. I have installed the OS (Ubuntu 12.04) of my NAS on an USB stick. But the stick is quite old and slow and it started to show file system errors. I would like to avoid re-installing the whole Ubuntu with all the configurations I made and instead just copy (dd) the whole stick to a new one. The question here is: This will probably copy the file system errors too, wouldn't it? Is there a...
[16:59] <rasp_pie> ...way to be sure I have a healthy system after copying it?
[16:59] <alimj> mathi: Why don't you use OpenSSH instead? You can change it via shell
[16:59] <llutz> mathi: sftp is openssh, not vsftpd (ftps)
[16:59] <iceroot> jrib: related to the manpage yes
[16:59] <iceroot> jrib: but without that option its failing, with that options its working
[16:59] <jrib> iceroot: what's 'm' do?
[16:59] <plover> I am having a very odd problem with the Ubuntu Studio desktop which I'm not even quite sure how to describe. When I boot, a previous session is being restored. However, the desktop is mostly nonfunctional.  No windows have a top title bar, and many of them have their menu bar glued into the desktop taskbar.  So far I haven't even been able to get a terminal window that I can use. I can't get rid of the session by rebooting.
[16:59] <iceroot> jrib: doesnt modify the utime
[16:59] <alimj> lluz: Agree with you...
[16:59] <mathi> llutz, I have a openssh server on my server, i can access my server with puTTy, now how do I transfer files ?
[17:00] <llutz> mathi: use winscp
[17:00] <alimj> mathi: Or use FileZilla
[17:00] <Flannel> mathi: Use your favorite GUI FTP client, connect via SFTP, using your ssh login/pass.
[17:00] <iceroot> jrib: its the same as --touch, so its creating the file as it would be greatetd right now and is not using the old mtime from the files from the source
[17:01] <mathi> Flannel, that's what I am trying to do, but my user has no root permission ? usually I do "sudo" on putty, but how to have root permissions through my FTP client ?
[17:01] <alimj> mathi: Do not forget that you should use root username and pass to be able to upload files to /etc
[17:01] <jrib> iceroot: I don't know, works ok here (I tar file owned by  userA, then extract as userB with (tar xf file.tar) and userB is the owner. The system you're extracting on is ubuntu?
[17:01] <mathi> alimj, I use Ubuntu, seems I have no root user
[17:01] <qw> hello al help me please: how to disable message update/upgrade from system?
[17:01] <qw> all*
[17:01] <llutz> you cannot ssh/sftp as root, since the root account is locked
[17:01] <alimj> mathi: You can enable root
[17:01] <iceroot> jrib: 10.04
[17:01] <bashinate> ubuntu does not have a root user by default
[17:01] <mathi> alimj, where can I do that ??
[17:01] <Tost> hi..ubuntu noob here..how do I create docs in the etc/apt/sources.lidt.d directory using the File System GUI?  When I right-click to create the doc I see it's greyed out
[17:01] <escott> alimj, there is no root passwd
[17:01] <alimj> mathi: You can enable it but it is dangerous
[17:02] <iceroot> !info tar lucid
[17:02] <alimj> mathi: sudo passwd root
[17:02] <llutz> and it's a really bad idea to allow root access via ssh/sftp
[17:02] <mathi> alimj, but I need to to upload files in /etc/asterisk, right ? there is no alternatives
[17:02] <Flannel> mathi: You won't.  You'll have your user's permissions.  If you want to do admin things you'll need to set up root to (S)FTP, which isn't entirely a good idea.  Why not just modify the config files from within ssh?
[17:02] <alimj> mathi: It is dangerous --- be careful
[17:02] <escott> mathi, dont enable the root account. upload the files to your user account, ssh over and then sudo cp them to /etc
[17:02] <alimj> mathi: sudo passwd root  ----> enables root account
[17:02] <alimj> escott: Agree with you
[17:02] <jrib> iceroot: well the man page in 10.04 doesn't have the same "(default for ordinary users)" clause that it seems to have now with --no-same-owner.  Maybe behavior was different then.  Is there an issue with just passing --no-same-owner?
[17:02] <escott> alimj, please dont tell people in channel how to do that
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> mathi  and if you have to ask how to do it, then better don't do it
[17:03] <iceroot> jrib: i guess i will debug that later, i will reconnect to the system and will have a look what "tar --version" will tell me on that system
[17:03] <iceroot> jrib: maybe the rebuild tar from another source (non-gnu-version)
[17:03] <BlackCyber> что это
[17:03] <iceroot> jrib: no there is no issue to use it
[17:03] <fedor> hi there, is there in u12.04 any ad blocker PROGRAM (not extension) for browsing?
[17:03] <BlackCyber> Who Russian?
[17:04] <iceroot> jrib: now i know what to do :) but when i first startet it, i did not understand what is wrong with it
[17:04] <fedor> I am
[17:04] <escott> !ru | BlackCyber
[17:04] <mathi> privet
[17:04] <iceroot> jrib: on my 12.04 is running with without that option, on 10.04 as it seems tar is different
[17:04] <jrib> iceroot: I see
[17:04] <fedor> privet, zdes' nel'zya pisat' malenkie repliki
[17:05] <iceroot> jrib: so it was not complete my fault :) because i was testing with 12.04
[17:05] <iceroot> escott: jrib thanks for the support
[17:05] <bak-again> lol guise im bak
[17:05] <fedor> so the question i asked remains to be answered . Is there any ad-blocking program available for U12-04?
[17:06] <bak-again> i <3 mods
[17:06] <bak-again> mods are gods
[17:06] <PokemonAcer> hey
[17:06] <fedor> hey pokemon, what's up
[17:06] <PokemonAcer> not mucg
[17:06] <PokemonAcer> much*
[17:06] <jhutchins_wk> fedor: Are you aware of any such programs for other versions of Linux?
[17:06] <alimj> fedor: Use no-script plugin for FireFox + Enable play on click in Firefox
[17:07] <PokemonAcer> waiting for iphone to be done, and am installing Ubuntu side-by-side with XP
[17:07] <fedor> the thing is i use chromium and ad-blockers doesn't work there
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> fedor  they do here
[17:07] <dandaman> hi all, i just bought a new hard drive and i want to take an image of my current hd(which has my ubuntu install on it) to put on the new one. Is there a tool that comes with ubuntu(I'm on 10.04 LTS) or one that you guys can recommend?
[17:07] <xangua> fedor: yes they do
[17:07] <fedor> for firefox it's working , but not for chromium :(
[17:07] <ert3go> Hello,my wifi is having some issues.It connects and disconnects intermittently.Any help?
[17:07] <alimj> fedor: You can activate "Play on click" in Chromium
[17:07] <PokemonAcer> hey, does anyone know (OTHER THAN NDISWRAPPER) anything that will let me use a Wifi device made for windows, work with ubuntu? I dont have ethernet
[17:08] <alimj> fedor: That will kill Flash ads
[17:08] <kunji> ...gnome-system-monitor is leaking memory, so is a conky script (because the writer does not understand Cairo), and maybe Xorg is leaking as well, and maybe flash but then again it just bloats whether it's leaking or not, so it's hard to tell.  The script I've fixed before, just need to dig out my fixed version and I guess I should get in touch with the original writer so the one on gnome-look can be fixed.  I guess I'm wondering if anyone 
[17:08] <fedor> alimj: nah, i want the same functionality as in windows chrome
[17:09] <kunji> jrib: Thanks again for the help last time with stopping that screen saver, it's been working great since.  ^_^
[17:09] <jrib> kunji: cool
[17:09] <fedor> as far as i understand it, there are some issues for chromium, and they are incorrigible
[17:09] <escott> fedor, there are some iptables based blacklists which would certainly block ads in chrome
[17:09] <alimj> Fedor: Then why don't you install Google Chrome from Google's official repositories?
 i can do that?
[17:10] <alimj> Fedor: I already have both Google Chrome and Chromium
[17:10] <fedor> that's most revealing to me so far :)
[17:10] <dandaman> bueller? anyone? bueller?
[17:10] <alimj> fedor: They will have their independent history + bookmark + .... (unless you sync)
[17:10] <fedor> so i can uninstall ugly chromium, hooray
[17:11] <alimj> fedor: Keep it. It is useful...
[17:11] <fedor> alimj, i cannot see why will it be useful
[17:11] <HowdyDoody> I am trying to modify a desktop icon to also add an environment variable before executing the program to call.  It seems to ignore the env settting.  Do I have some bad syntax here ?  -->Exec=/usr/bin/env PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/virtualbox/:/usr/lib/virtualbox/sdk/bindings/xpcom/python/ gksudo python "/opt/GNS3/gns3"
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> fedor  sudo apt-get purge chromium-browser
[17:12] <andrew_> Hi there, i have a usb DAC which isn't getting recognized as a digital out device (just analog stereo).  Any ideas how I can debug this?
[17:12] <alimj> fedor: I use it since I do website programming. I need one browser in logged in mode and one in anonymous mode
[17:12] <Mudboy> Does anyone know if a recent apache update changed the say the FollowSymLinks works?
[17:12] <jrib> HowdyDoody: sudo usually sanitizes the environment (see "man sudo")
[17:13] <fedor> alimj, still i cannot understand your point. If you have chrom installed what impedes you to use chrome's anonymous state?
[17:13] <escott> HowdyDoody, you may have some crazy interactions between gksudo and env. try putting the env after the gksudo
[17:14] <kunji> fedor: that he can't be be the user and an anonymous entity at the same time in the web app
[17:14] <alimj> fedor: I develop websites. WHile developing websites, you should log on to that site in admin mode. In the meantime, it is necessary to see the changes from others perspective.
[17:14] <escott> dandaman, you can just sudo cat /dev/sda | tee /dev/sdb &>/dev/null
[17:15] <escott> dandaman, alternately look at dd or ddrescue
[17:15] <fedor> i see now your point
[17:15] <dandaman> escott: that simple eh?
[17:15] <alimj> andrew: What is your DAC? Blackmagic-design? Avid?
[17:15] <qhartman> escott, what's the point of the tee in that command, seems extraneous.
[17:15] <escott> dandaman, i would always just reinstall, but if the disks are appropriately similar
[17:15] <escott> qhartman, what other way would work?
[17:16] <dandaman> escott: they arent, but i have settings that i want to preserve
[17:16] <dr_willis> qhartman:  sudo rights dont apply to redirection without the tee
[17:16] <zykotick9> qhartman: sudo doesn't pass through redirects
[17:16] <qhartman> ah, there ya go
[17:16] <HowdyDoody> escott: I thought I had tried that at least 3 different time.  Why not a 4th.   Wierd:  4th times a charm.   It works.   Not the way the examples shows, but I'm good to use it now.  THanks!
[17:16] <andrew_> How can I force pulseaudio to use IEC958 out for a device?  It's not showing up in sound settings, but does with aplay -L
[17:17] <dandaman> going from a 5200 rpm 60gb hard drive from like 7 years ago to a 128gb 6gb/s solid state drive
[17:17] <dandaman> so stoked
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, i realize i did leave off a second sudo on the tee command
[17:19] <dandaman> im jut gonna use clonezilla
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, do NOT use clonezilla
[17:19] <dandaman> orly?
[17:19] <dr_willis> escott:  i thought it looked weird
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, its an awful idea to be doign that
[17:19] <kunji> Hmm, maybe I should file a bug report?  gnome-system-monitor's RAM usage ballooned to 2.1 GB in 6 days.  Does anyone know what would be an expected amount for Xorg to use on a standard Unity install?  Mine at 1.9 GB right now.
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, you are going to mark the entire disk as dirty in the SSD firmware
[17:19] <escott> dandaman, and then have to trim it all out again
[17:19] <jhutchins_wk> escott: What's wrong with clonezilla?
[17:20] <atlef> sorry
[17:20] <escott> jhutchins_wk, nothing wrong with clonezilla. just low level copy in general to an SSD. i didnt realize dandaman was using an SSD
[17:20] <Nasser> hi
[17:20] <dandaman> escott: so plug in the ssd, boot up, then type in sudo cat /dev/sd<original HD ID> | sudo tee /dev/sd<new HD ID> &>/dev/null
[17:21] <dandaman> then set my bios to default to the ssd as the boot device?
[17:21] <dr_willis> kunji:  xorg itself is using 8% of my 512mb here.. but this is on a raspberry pi. ;)
[17:21] <escott> dandaman, you are better off partitioning and then copying files with a command like "sudo cp -aRx / /media/ssd_disk
[17:21] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: You're not booting to the original device are you?
[17:21] <escott> dandaman, i would not do that either
[17:21] <dandaman> jhutchins_wk: i am
[17:21] <escott> dandaman, i would not do any low level copy to the SSD
[17:21] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: Not a good idea.
[17:22] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: You need to boot to a different medium - livd CD or USB.
[17:22] <dandaman> ok, i can handle that
[17:22] <dandaman> brb real quick
[17:22] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: THat will also avoid trying to copy pseudo filesystems like /dev and /proc
[17:23] <kunji> dr_willis: Hmm, yeah, I've got a pi, they're nice, mine isn't connected at the moment though.  Right, I'm thinking almost 2 Gigs is too much, but I'm not sure if other things run under that and are included or if that number is just Xorg itself.  I'm thinking it's leaking, maybe I'll leave it another day and check again.
[17:24] <dr_willis> kunji:  all through beta for 12.10 i had issues where xorg or compiz or somthing would go crazy and lagg the whole system. id restart the X server it would be great for a while... then it would happen again. but i never saw it using lots of ram.. just lots of cpu. ;)
[17:24] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: What's he trying to move?
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> escott: A filesystem is a filesystem, but I certainly wouldn't use cat.  Partclone or dd should be fine.
[17:25] <MichaelP> What is nomodeset command in kernel of boot menu.. for radeon ?
[17:25] <escott> dandaman, boot the livecd. partition the new disk.  mount the old disk to /media/old_disk and the new ssd to /media/new_disk then sudo cp -aR /media/old_disk /media/new_disk. then chroot in and reinstall grub
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> kunji: I think he's moving a debian install to a new disk.
[17:25] <kunji> dr_willis: Hmm, I do see a fair amount of cpu at times, but with 4 cores it doesn't seem to slow things down too badly and goes away after a while.
[17:25] <dr_willis> MichaelP:  nomodeset works for all the gpus.
[17:25] <escott> jhutchins_wk, there is no difference between dd and cat. and a filesystem is a filesystem, but an SSD disk is not a normal hard disk
[17:25] <jhutchins_wk> escott: I wouldn't use cp either, I'd use rsync.  Much more robust.
[17:26] <dandaman> a lot of opinions here :( what do i dew?
[17:26] <MichaelP> dr_willis, i know but different distro's do it different
[17:26] <jhutchins_wk> escott: An ssd presents itself as the same kind of device as a regular disk.  The differences are not exposed to the OS.
[17:26] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[17:26] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: Hmm, I think my preferred tool would be ddrescue then, does just copying the files work out for that?  If so, then rsync is the tool for the job after formatting with say gparted.
[17:27] <escott> jhutchins_wk, he is going to mark all the sectors dirty
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: I would probably go with a file-level tool like rsync.
[17:27] <escott> jhutchins_wk, he also probably has an ext2 or ext3 partition that could be moved up to ext4 with extents
[17:27] <dandaman> my original hd is an ext4
[17:27] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: If the partitions are going to be identical, then using clonezilla is a good idea - it gives you the live CD and it doesn't waste time copying blank space.
[17:27] <escott> dandaman, you will degrade the performance of you SSD by doing a low level copy to the disk
[17:28] <Nasser> any suggestions for live widgets pals?
[17:28] <alimj> dandaman: I second escott...
[17:28] <dandaman> ok, so i need to rsync the files
[17:28] <jhutchins_wk> I would not recommend using ext4 unless you have a specific need for it.
[17:28] <dandaman> got it
[17:28] <dandaman> jhutchins_wk: what should i make my new ssd then?
[17:28] <dandaman> ext3?
[17:28] <alimj> dandaman: Please do not forget to set the boot partition active...
[17:29] <dandaman> alimj: how do i do that?
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: rsync -av /input /output - no need for compression (z) since you're not going through any transport.
[17:29] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: Yeah, I'd use ext3.
[17:29] <alimj> dandaman: With fdisk or gparted
[17:29] <alimj> dandaman: ext3 should be OK. You will not require too much journaling....
[17:30] <dandaman> god damn i dont know how to reinstall grub either :(
[17:30] <atlef> !grub
[17:30] <kunji> Hmm, what's with the bias against ext4?
[17:30] <escott> dandaman, you will want the following mount options for an SSD noatime,nodiratime,discard
[17:30] <alimj> kunji: He is using SSD not HDD
[17:31] <escott> alimj, you can use ext4 without journaling
[17:31] <alimj> escott: I also love backward compatibility :P
[17:32] <kunji> alimj: Right, mind explaining though?  Or citing?  You can even use HDD without journaling, is your point just that because the writes are fast that you shouldn't bother with journaling?
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> Why would you not use journaling on a modern system?
[17:32] <escott> kunji, the idea is that it amplifies the number of writes
[17:32] <alimj> kunji: Writing too much information to SSDs will age them. There is a limit for that.
[17:33] <jhutchins_wk> escott: Actually, the opposite is true, journalling reduces writes.
[17:33] <dr_willis> i still have to wonder at how long the lifespan of these sdds are....
[17:33] <escott> jhutchins_wk, i didnt say i agreed with it
[17:33] <escott> dandaman, welcome to the world of cutting edge technology. a lot of these decisions will depend on how long you expect your SSD to last
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> alimj: That situation has changed drastically in the last few years, current ssds are much less susceptible to degradation.
[17:34] <escott> dandaman, i view SSD as a rather disposable product... if it lasts for 2 years then ill be 2 years closer to being able to buy a robust and well functioning SSD
[17:34] <dandaman> escott: :(
[17:34] <kunji> I would expect that their lifetimes are not all that different from HDDs.
[17:34] <alimj> jhutchins_wk: Almost agree with you...
[17:34] <dr_willis> every thing is disosable these days...
[17:34] <kunji> escott: I've already had one last 2 years
[17:34] <dandaman> kunji: shorter but more predictable
[17:35] <jhutchins_wk> dandaman: I would treat it like a normal disk.  Make sure you have good backups; if you're interested in optimizing it research the actual hardware you have - don't go by advice on devices that came out two or three years ago.
[17:35] <alimj> dandaman: You should not be too much worried. Just partition the SSD similar to HDD, then format using ext3. finally use rsync or cp to copy files & update grub
[17:35] <escott> dandaman, i think you will find general agreement on (a) not doing a low level copy (b) setting noatime,nodiratime,discard beyond that to things like journaling vs other filesystems... i dont know
[17:36] <dandaman> alimj: how do i update grub?
[17:36] <escott> !grub | dandaman
[17:36] <dandaman> 2nd link right?
[17:36] <escott> dandaman, follow the chroot set of instructions (you will already have the disk mounted in the livecd)
[17:36] <kunji> dandaman: yeah
[17:36] <jhutchins_wk> danhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[17:37] <alimj> dandaman: It is very important to do it with a liveCD/DVD or USB
[17:37] <dandaman> escott: which set of instr?
[17:37] <dandaman> alimj: will do
[17:37] <escott> dandaman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot ignore the bit about mdadm
[17:37] <escott> dandaman, you will also have to fix up the /etc/fstab because its a new partition with new UUIDs
[17:37] <kunji> alimj: Why would that be important?
[17:38] <dandaman> all useful info
[17:38] <dandaman> ty
[17:38] <alimj> kunji: It is already explained that we want to avoid pseudo files
[17:38] <escott> kunji, cannot get a clean snapshot read of a running filesystem. less important since he is not doing a low level copy
[17:38] <escott> alimj, those can be avoided with cp -aRx
[17:38] <kunji> alimj: Sorry, I thought you were referring to the Grub part
[17:39] <escott> dandaman, the livecd is somewhat optional but i would do it anyways
[17:39] <alimj> escott: yes, but if he has /home (or /dev) on another partition
[17:39] <escott> alimj, which would not be traversed by "-x"
[17:40] <riegersn> i have xchat entry in my ubuntu messaging indicator menu, i've uninstalled xchat-indicator, but its still in the list. how can I remove it?
[17:40] <alimj> escott: I agree but it would be more clear to do it with a live Boot medium. /sda1 -> /sdb1 - /sda2 -> /sdb2 ....
[17:40] <dandaman> well once my ssd arrives in the mail later tonight ill be on here begging for help when everything goes to shit
[17:41] <phrozen-pl> Hello
[17:41] <alimj> escott: Should we mention fstab or not?
[17:42] <escott> alimj, dandaman does have to adjust the fstab but i mentioned it already
[17:42] <trism> riegersn: is this 12.10?
[17:42] <alimj> escott: OK
[17:42] <riegersn> trism, yes
[17:42] <kunji> riegersn: Hmm, did you uninstall it with sudo apt-get remove <package> or sudo apt-get purge <package>?  If it was the first, then you might try doing the second instead, if that doesn't work then you'll need to find where that menu is configured and change it by hand, unfortunately I don't know where that is...
[17:42] <DarkSim> I killed grub on 12.04 help
[17:42] <riegersn> kunji, i did purge actually
[17:43] <phrozen-pl> I have a question about apache + mod_fcgid for python. I have a configuration similar for centos but still having an error premature end of scripts django.fcgi. I installed flup and etc packages but in centos I had to set enforce 0 for selinux which  made a problems.... but in ubuntu I have a problem all the time ...
[17:43] <trism> riegersn: ahh, in 12.10, an item won't be removed from the messaging menu until an up unregisters it or the .desktop file disappears...in this case xchat-indicator only ships the shared lib so when you remove it, I imagine it used the xchat .desktop file
[17:43] <trism> riegersn: might try removing/reinstalling xchat
[17:44] <kunji> trism: what do you mean by an "up"?
[17:44] <trism> kunji: meant app sorry
[17:44] <root__> fg
[17:44] <DarkSim> I only get grub rescue
[17:44] <Tr3v0r> lj
[17:45] <riegersn> trism, that worked. thanks!
[17:45] <escott> DarkSim, boot the livecd. download and run the bootinfoscript from sourceforge. paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[17:50] <DarkSim> escott: paste.ubuntu.com/1583045/
[17:50] <designbybeck__> when using nano, I got a lil' edit happy editing a long css file. There isn't a way to "roll back" undo? revert back to? by chance?
[17:51] <escott> DarkSim, there is no partition 7. Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector
[17:51] <escott>     1 of the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and
[17:51] <escott>     looks in partition 7 for /boot/burg.
[17:51] <designbybeck__> DarkSim: when pasting in weblinks please put in the http:// so that it is easier to click on a link and launch it
[17:51] <DarkSim> Sorry...typed by hand
[17:51] <designbybeck__> gotcha
[17:51] <escott> DarkSim, typed what by hand?
[17:52] <DarkSim> The link
[17:52] <escott> DarkSim, ok the URL.
[17:52] <escott> DarkSim, in any case you need to reinstall grub. its not correct its looking at the wrong partition number
[17:52] <escott> !grub | DarkSim
[17:52] <wjtaylor_> What's the best software for automatically fixing mp3 metadata?
[17:54] <Nitesh> hi
[17:54] <DarkSim> Bah...I'll just wipe the OS all together
[17:54] <DarkSim> Brb
[17:54] <Nitesh> any girl there ?
[17:54] <atlef> wjtaylor, EasyTAG is one
[17:54] <hrundi_bakshi> hi nitesh
[17:54] <josesierra> gnome-shell process is chewing up ram like crazy.  It's up to 221.6mb.  If I pull up Chrome (another memory hog) it chews up 80% of my available ram.  Is this normal...?
[17:54] <hrundi_bakshi> hi Nitesh
[17:55] <Nitesh> kahase ho tum ?
[17:55] <heywood> trying to monitor a process that occasionally runs away and pegs the CPU. am i better off running a watchdog script with a while / sleep loop in the background, or making it a one-off and running it from cron?
[17:56] <hrundi_bakshi> try #bakchodi Nitesh
[17:56] <milind> I have two VM's running ssh in the same host, I want to be able to ssh between the VM's. I am currently running NAT on both but cant seem to ssh, do I need a bridged connection or internal network connection to achieve this? I am using Virtual Box btw
[17:56] <hrundi_bakshi> hi milind
[17:57] <escott> heywood, there are watchdog functionalities in the kernel. you can throttle the process or kill it if it gets away
[17:57] <dr_willis> milind:  what vm are you using?
[17:57] <escott> milind, a NAT will be opaque to computers on the WAN side of the NAT
[17:57] <Nitesh> tumako kya hua ?
[17:57] <dr_willis> milind:  ahh vbox. - it has settings for networking that put them all on the same ip as the local lan
[17:57] <kunji> milind: I think it depends what sort of connection is set up for them in the VM, i.e. is it already bridged etc...
[17:58] <hrundi_bakshi> kuch nahi Nitesh but try #bakchodi for all harami's
[17:58] <dr_willis> milind:  if your host is 192.168.1.100  the vbox machines can have an ip of 192.168.1.101 and so forth. if you set it right
[17:58] <Nitesh> hi....
[17:58] <heywood> escott: what i want to do is kill and restart (via sudo, BTW) when the CPU load exceeds some threshold. is there a kernel watchdog that can do that?
[17:58] <dr_willis> milind:  theres like 3 options for networking.  one does it this way where they all appear on the lan.
[17:58] <JuJuBee> I just installed ubuntu 12.10 from USB to an HP Compaq 8300 and it won't boot from the HD.  Same installer on another HP COmpaq 8300 worked fine.  Suggestions?
[17:59] <Nitesh> tumara naam kya he ?
[17:59] <keelG> josesierra: I use the unity shell, however 220mb doesn't sound too crazy - and I don't know what your total amount of memory is. But my ff quickly takes up a few 100mbs as well :)
[17:59] <jhutchins_wk> JuJuBee: What happens when you try to boot?
[17:59] <escott> heywood, try cpulimit
[17:59] <hrundi_bakshi> Nitesh see pvt message
[18:00] <heywood> JuJuBee: can you boot from a liveCD (or the USB), mount the HD, and verify that the install is actually there on the HD?
[18:00] <Nitesh> haa..
[18:01] <JuJuBee> heywood: let me check...
[18:02] <JuJuBee> heywood: seems to be all there
[18:02] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed gnome also) and  i cannot open file url in gnome- terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please
[18:03] <heywood> escott: looking at manpage now. says it handles runaway processes by "by sending it SIGSTOP and SIGCONT signals". is that equivalent to killall -HUP followed by a restart?
[18:03] <JuJuBee> jhutchins_wk: I also have an  ltsp server running so the machine seems to skip the HD and go to PXE boot.  I checked the bios and have the hd before netboot and even tried using boot menu to select Sata 0.  I get no errors, just goes to PXE
[18:03] <escott> heywood, no
[18:03] <escott> heywood, thats like ctrl-z; fg in the shell
[18:04] <escott> heywood, but you might be able to get it to send a different signal
[18:04] <heywood> JuJuBee: try booting and getting to the BIOS config, before grub (pre-boot kernel selector) comes up. usually it's something like holding F1 down during boot.
[18:05] <heywood> JuJuBee: in there, look for a menu that specifies boot order. check that order to make sure it's sane.
[18:05] <JuJuBee> heywood: already looked at boot menu
[18:05] <JuJuBee> fine
[18:05] <heywood> escott: ok, i'll have to apt-get the source for it and hack away at that. thanks for the pointer.
[18:05] <heywood> JuJuBee: ok, so if the boot menu is sane, what happens when you remove the USB install stick and reboot?
[18:06] <JuJuBee> heywood: it ends up booting to PXE
[18:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: you will find grub installed to the usb, rather than the hard disk
[18:06] <JuJuBee> Like it cannot find a bootable HS
[18:06] <ikonia> JuJuBee: that is the most common reason for the situation you are in
[18:07] <JuJuBee> ikonia: Ah, let me check that  possibility  I forgot that was an issue
[18:07] <ikonia>  /dev/sda will be your usb disk and I'd bet grub went to that disk
[18:10] <morfeo_81> hi there
[18:10] <dspohn> hey
[18:11] <morfeo_81> Is it possibile to install python notebook n ubuntu 11.04...?If no How can Upgrade to 12 without loss data?
[18:12] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx
[18:13] <JuJuBee> ikonia: what is best way to fix grub?
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> JuJuBee: Sounds like grub got installed to the partition instead of the MBR.
[18:13] <zero_coder> hey, is there any way to check who is using more data in wifi network?
[18:13] <jhutchins_wk> JuJuBee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[18:15] <hillary> i have problem with updating in  ubuntu 12.04
[18:15] <jhutchins_wk> zero_coder: I think the only way to do that would be through the capabilities of the wireless router, and most home gear wouldn't be able to.
[18:15] <zero_coder> :P
[18:16] <zero_coder> is there any way to monitor ?
[18:16] <Nitesh> hi....i am nitesh 21
[18:16] <hillary>  i have problem with updating in  ubuntu 12.04  any help?
[18:16] <newbie_to_ubuntu> I have a question about the linker in gcc ... which chat room should I go to in order to get some help with a tough linker problem
[18:18] <plead> Has anyone noticed no black people use Ubuntu?
[18:19] <hillary> plead: am black kenyan and am using
[18:20] <plead> hillary: really?
[18:20] <hillary> plead: yes!!!
[18:20] <plead> cool
[18:20] <plead> Why do you use Ubuntu?
[18:20] <craigbass1976> Someone mentioned talika here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1366088&highlight=ungroup  But I don't see anything in the repos when searching.
[18:21] <Mitesh123> hi
[18:21] <Mitesh123> is there any girl
[18:21] <hillary> plead:have posted a problem please help
[18:21] <dspohn> lol @ Mitesh123
[18:22] <hillary> Plead: ubuntu is ultimate to me unlike...
[18:22] <dspohn> what are you trying Hillary?
[18:22] <kunji> plead: Hmm, interesting you should mention that, maybe it's just something in the U.S. most of the black people I know personally tend to use Xubuntu, but I'm sure there are many that use the standard variant.
[18:23] <hillary> dspohn: to updte available updates
[18:23] <plead> kunji: okay
[18:23] <plead> lol
[18:23] <kunji> JuJuBee: There are various ways to fix grub, which one is best would depend on the situation.
[18:24] <JuJuBee> kunji:  just used the boot-repair app
[18:24] <JuJuBee> Seems to have fixed fine
[18:24] <hillary> dspohn: my system shows available updates but when i run i get an error"http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583104/"
[18:25] <kunji> JuJuBee: sounds good to me ^_^
[18:26] <iceroot> hillary: please paste the output of "cat /etc/environment" to pastebin
[18:27] <zykotick9> hillary: /opt/mono... eh.
[18:27] <iceroot> !paste | hillary
[18:27] <jhutchins_wk> iceroot: That seems a little redundant since her error is in a pastebin already.
[18:28] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx
[18:28] <hillary> zykotick9: yap that is the thing help
[18:28] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: and can you tell me what is in line 2 of /etc/environment which is causing the error?
[18:28] <zykotick9> hillary: anything installed in /opt is a non-ubuntu package.  and mono is a cancer.  good luck.  don't reply to me further.
[18:28] <kunji> iceroot: I think he meant the part about informing how to pastebin, was maybe a bit pedantic.
[18:29] <iceroot> kunji: ah ok
[18:29] <hillary> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583137/
[18:29] <iceroot> hillary: that is not what i was asking for
[18:29] <iceroot> hillary: please paste the output of "cat /etc/environment" to pastebin
[18:30] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: It looks like the configuration script for the mono package didn't suceed, and that's causing the apt system to hang.  I think I would try removing mono, possibly just using dpkg instead of one of the wrappers, then do aptitude -f install to see if it recovers.
[18:30] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i highly doubt a "package" installed to /opt
[18:30] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: its not a package-problem
[18:31] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: its a problem in /etc/environment
[18:31] <ddosantos> hello, first time around
[18:31] <hillary> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583152/
[18:31] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk: there is some mono config and the package which dpkg is trying to configure is parsing /etc/environment
[18:31] <ddosantos> if I may...is this the correct place to ask doubts?
[18:31] <DarkSim> When installing Ubuntu I choose logical type of partition, right?
[18:31] <jhutchins_wk> iceroot: I shall entrust hillary to your superior knowledge of mono - thanks.
[18:32] <iceroot> hillary: gksudo gedit /etc/environment    and then remove the line with :/opt/mono-2.11/bin
[18:32] <kunji> ddosantos: I don't know, what do you mean by doubts?
[18:32] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: This is a place to ask questions regarding ubuntu support.
[18:32] <iceroot> jhutchins_wk:  its knowlegde of "she executed a PATH command wrong or edited /etc/environment" by hand. its nothing mono specific
[18:32] <ddosantos> well, I was trying to mount an external HD so I can share it with samba
[18:33] <ddosantos> I edited /etc/fstab but it does not mount where I told it
[18:33] <kunji> DarkSim: Doesn't have to be logical, but I would typically.
[18:33] <iceroot> hillary: just remove the line, save the file and everything should be fine
[18:33] <DarkSim> I keep forgetting the settings :P
[18:33] <Tost> I'm trying to use this command to create a file and add contents to it > "echo "The text you want added to a new file" >> the_file_name" but I keep getting 'permission denied' and I don't know why.  Any advice you can offer a linux noob?
[18:33] <hillary> iceroot: i have removed
[18:33] <kunji> ddosantos: Does it mount someplace else?
[18:33] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Paste the fstab to  http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:33] <ddosantos> yeah, it actually does
[18:33] <DarkSim> Logical, beginning of space and / mount
[18:34] <ddosantos> paste.ubuntu.com, got it
[18:34] <iceroot> hillary: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       the upgrade should be working now
[18:34] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSim: Usually you only need a logical partition if you go beyond four partitions.
[18:35] <jhutchins_wk> DarkSim In which case you go three physical, one extended, and the rest logical (which are within the extended).
[18:35] <ddosantos> you can have a look at it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583169/
[18:35] <escott> Tost, who owns "the_file_name"
[18:35] <kunji> DarkSim: Logical is the type of partition, there are two kinds, Logical and Physical.  You get 4 physical ones (unless using GPT), if you need more partitions than that, then you have to use logical ones.
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Does /media/externo exist?
[18:36] <ddosantos> yes it does
[18:36] <ddosantos> I also set the permisions to 777 just in case
[18:36] <kunji> DarkSim: That type being different from the other field that is often called type (the filesystem type), which is what sort of thing the partition will be used for, aka filesystem type, like swap, ext4, etc..
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Where does the device mount instead?
[18:37] <iceroot> hillary: working?
[18:37] <Guest85069> novo por aki
[18:37] <Tost> escott, I'm not sure what you mean but I'm just trying to create a file and name it..
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> !es | Guest85069
[18:38] <kunji> ddosantos: Have you rebooted?  Or are you testing with the mount command?  Is the drive still listed in mtab?
[18:38] <escott> Tost, if the file already exists someone else may own it and you might not be able to write to it. if its not your directory you might not be able to create files
[18:38] <zykotick9> Tost: fyi (not directly related to your permission issue but) > is redirect to file, while >> is append to file.
[18:38] <escott> !permissions | Tost
[18:38] <ddosantos> yes I tried a reboot a while ago
[18:39] <ddosantos> I am not using the mount command as it mounts itself alone
[18:39] <ddosantos> when switched on
[18:39] <hillary> Iceroot: a minute i will let you know.
[18:39] <zykotick9> Tost: fyi#2 and easy way to create a file is "touch filename"
[18:40] <kunji> ddosantos: Just checking, because sometimes people test after making the change in fstab by using mount -a I think it is to mount everything listed in the fstab.
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: You do not have the auto command in fstab, therefore it will not mount at boot as a part of the normal filesystem.  It is probably being mounted by udev/fuse.  You should doublecheck the UUID.
[18:40] <lolcat> What is the ubuntu repo for chrome, and how do I add it? My browers is stone dead
[18:40] <ddosantos> what do you mean with doublecheck? do you there might be any typo¿
[18:40] <ddosantos> do you think*
[18:40] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Yes, it's possible.
[18:40] <Tost> thank you for the replies! ubottu, I will check the site..also, why can't I create files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory within the file system GUI?
[18:41] <iceroot> Tost: because the directory belongs to root
[18:41] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: mount -a or mount /media/externo should mount it properly.
[18:41] <zykotick9> Tost: anything outside of /home and /tmp are going to require elevated (ie root) permission probably.
[18:41] <iceroot> Tost: and you are not root, so you are not allowed to write in that directory
[18:41] <ioria> i run lubuntu 12.04 (but installed also gnome) and  i cannot open file url in gnome-terminal (URL=file:///), but i can in gnome session. help please. tx
[18:41] <Tost> iceroot, is there a way I can override it or something to be able to use the GUI to create files in there?
[18:41] <Phonequer> How to read dependencies of a package?
[18:42] <ddosantos> should I umount /media/Iomega\ HDD before?
[18:42] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: Hmm?  What is this auto command?
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Actually, my mistake, the drive should mount at boot.
[18:42] <ddosantos> yes, I saw a message at boot
[18:42] <zykotick9> Phonequer: "apt-cache depends foo" or "apt-cache rdepends foo" for the reverse version
[18:42] <ddosantos> I hit S to ommit
[18:42] <jhutchins_wk> kunji: Different systems don't default to auto.  Ubuntu defaults and uses noauto for override.
[18:42] <ddosantos> because the hard drive was off at that moment
[18:43] <ddosantos> then when switched on I hoped it would mount at /media/externo
[18:43] <ddosantos> but it didn't
[18:43] <kunji> jhutchins_wk: ah, I see, I'll need to keep that in mind.
[18:43] <Phonequer> zykotick9: thanks
[18:43] <iceroot> Tost: why you need to put files in that directory?
[18:43] <josesierra> keelG: total amount of memory is only 3GB (max 4GB, it's an older system, lol).  But if you're telling me that kind of mem usage is normal, I'll definitely take your word for it!  Thank you (again!!!)
[18:43] <iceroot> Tost: normally you will manage your repos using the software-center
[18:44] <kunji> ddosantos: Hmm, check again that the UUID is right, that the drive is NTFS, and that /media/externo exists with the correct permissions.  I'm not sure what else to look at, I've never actually had a problem with fstab.
[18:44] <iceroot> josesierra: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[18:44] <Grandpa_smasher> im haveing wifi problems AR9485 aetheros, cant resolve servers 1/2 the time... is this driver or dns issue that can be fixed?
[18:45] <ddosantos> kunji: ok, thanks, I will
[18:45] <hillary> iceroot: the result of "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:45] <hillary> "is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583192/
[18:45] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Could be either I suppose, have you tried using other dns servers yet?
[18:45] <Grandpa_smasher> have not
[18:45] <Angela> ciao
[18:45] <ddosantos> the output of fdisk -l tells me that that the device is in /dev/sdf1
[18:46] <ddosantos> and blkid of /dev/sdf1 is the one I posted
[18:46] <iceroot> hillary: everything fine and your system is updated successfully with the latest security fixes
[18:47] <ddosantos> /dev/sdf1: LABEL="Iomega HDD" UUID="D27431CF7431B6D7" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:47] <kunji> ddosantos: Oh, hmm, actually are there supposed to be quotes around the UUID?  I think it's not supposed to.
[18:47] <Grandpa_smasher> kunji, how do i go about changing dns?
[18:47] <hillary> iceroot: yes yes yes. I have confirmed!!!!! Thank you so much(Asante Sana)
[18:47] <Tost> iceroot, I'm trying to install OpenNMS on this ubuntu box and it's a requirement..see here Configure APT- "Adding a Repository" section  http://www.opennms.org/wiki/Installation:Debian
[18:47] <iceroot> hillary: you are welcome
[18:47] <ddosantos> aren't they? The other partition with ntfs is being correctly mounted at /media/partiwin
[18:48] <kunji> ddosantos: In mine I do not have quotes around them, and you don't for your first 2 partitions.
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: edit that file with the repos you need
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: no need to create files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:48] <Tost> iceroot, ok, i was just following the directions but I'll do what you say..
[18:48] <iceroot> Tost: and please remeber, such repos are not supported here, we only support installations with official ubuntu repos
[18:49] <ddosantos> kunji: I will try without them, but it makes me doubt as the sda1 is being mounted at /media/partiwin as expected, and that line does have quotes
[18:49] <kunji> ddosantos: Also I have no - in utf-8, I have utf8.  Maybe the parser is breaking on that right before the last drive?  Try changing those 2 things and give it a go
[18:49] <iceroot> Tost: and dont!!!! put in the squeeze parts
[18:49] <iceroot> Tost: at "installing the jdk"
[18:49] <iceroot> Tost: never put debian repos inside ubuntu
[18:49] <Tost> iceroot; forgive my ignoerance but what's a repo? and where would I go for help with such repos?
[18:49] <iceroot> !repo | Tost
[18:50] <Tex_Nick> !dns | Grandpa_smasher
[18:50] <kunji> ddosantos: hmm, also the utf part is lowercase in mine, I'll post what mine looks like real quick for you.
[18:50] <ddosantos> kunji: thank you for the help, that could be, but then why would the first partition be correctly mounted?
[18:50] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Quotes don't matter, I have both formats and it works either way.
[18:50] <iceroot> Tost: something like that is supported nowhere
[18:51] <iceroot> Tost:  deb http://debian.opennms.org stable main
[18:51] <iceroot>  deb-src http://debian.opennms.org stable main
[18:51] <kunji> ddosantos: If the parser is breaking on the utf portion it will already have the right info for the UUID and mount point of the 1st one and mount it fine, it just may not have the correct locale
[18:51] <iceroot> Tost: that are the only two lines which should be added to that file (still not supported) there other lines with squeeze and so on will break your system 100%
[18:52] <kunji> ddosantos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583223/
[18:52] <zykotick9> iceroot: i'd think testing or unstable would be a lot closer to any currently supported ubuntu version then squeeze (10.04 based).  Tost
[18:52] <JuJuBee> ikonia: SO I used the stick to reinstall on another computer and on boot it set the internal HD to sda and the usb stick to sdb.  So grub was set to the correct location.  Rebooted and got grub rescue
[18:52] <kunji> ddosantos: It's worth a shot, can't hurt to try it
[18:52] <iceroot> zykotick9: i bet it will still break the system
[18:52] <zykotick9> iceroot: agreed!
[18:53] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Thanks for helping Grandpa_smasher, I was preoccupied
[18:53] <iceroot> zykotick9: multiarch, systemd, udev, dbus, libc6 dependency-issues and so on
[18:53] <ddosantos> kunji: sure, I will do that. Can you please tell me if all your three mounted devices are external or internal?
[18:53] <iceroot> zykotick9: all the nice thinks which will happen by mixing repos :)
[18:53] <ddosantos> that could have something to do
[18:53] <zykotick9> iceroot: ;)
[18:53] <kunji> ddosantos: internal, but it shouldn't matter.
[18:53] <Tex_Nick> kunji : np ... good to see you :-)
[18:53] <ddosantos> as in my case, one of them is internal (the one which mounts ok) and the other one external
[18:54] <iceroot> zykotick9: but without sid there is no real fun .)
[18:54] <ddosantos> anyway I am going to remove the - and let's see
[18:54] <zykotick9> iceroot: 'cause when it breaks, you get to keep all the pieces ;)
[18:54] <kunji> ddosantos: Hmm, you think it might be some sort of usb issue?  It's possible, I did have one drive in the past that didn't work because it wasn't getting enough power right at boot.
[18:55] <iceroot> zykotick9: :)
[18:55] <Grandpa_smasher> no problem kunji getting bind9 now
[18:55] <ddosantos> what I was thinking is that maybe it tried to mount it at boot, but it couldn't, then failed with the system running
[18:56] <kunji> Tex_Nick: I got that screen thing resolved eventually with jrib's help, I posted it here for someone that was having the same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2074264&page=2  turns out Flash had nothing to do with it.
[18:56] <iceroot> zykotick9: for a real dependency fight you need a newer libc6. everything else is boring and can be fixed with alot of effort
[18:56] <iceroot> zykotick9: but libc6 errors....
[18:57] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: ntfs-3g is correct according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[18:57] <Grandpa_smasher> god bind9 no is too complicated 4 me
[18:57] <Tex_Nick> kunji : great to hear that ... jrib is good ... & thanks for the link, i'll make a note of it for future reference :-)\
[18:58] <ddosantos> jhutchins_wk: yes, locale=es_ES.UTF-8 should also be
[18:58] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Oh, I see, he was talking about utf8.  See the system generated entries without the -
[18:58] <orudie> Hi. How can I burn .iso to a usb disk ?
[18:59] <lazer> !usb
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Those are codepages though, not localles.
[18:59] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Umm, sorry, wait up, bind9?  Isn't that overkill?  Maybe that wasn't the right link to be looking at.
[18:59] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: So does partwin mount correctly?
[19:00] <ddosantos> jhutchins_wk: actually it does
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Then the format of the fstab entry is correct and should work for either one.
[19:01] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: What happens when you try mount /media/externo?
[19:01] <ddosantos> may fstab be in conflict with some other file that makes the drive mount on its own?
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Not quite the way it works.
[19:02] <orudie> no, I want to burn an iso in ubuntu
[19:02] <Guest1649> hi
[19:02] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: If your fstab entry is broken, other mechanisms will mount the drive.
[19:02] <orudie> I already have ubuntu 12.04 installed. I downloaded an .iso file and now I need to burn it to a USB (not as data). Any help ?
[19:02] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Open up the network manager and pick the connection you're using, click edit, go to IPv4 (or 6 if you're using it already) and you should see a field for entering additional DNS servers.
[19:03] <jhutchins_wk> orudie: The instructions for installing from a usb drive will tell you how to "burn" it.
[19:03] <Grandpa_smasher> ya its blank, what should i enter
[19:03] <qhartman> orudie, the easiest way would be to mount the iso and then just copy them like you would any other files
[19:03] <ddosantos> um, that's weird
[19:03] <Guest1649> use untebootin
[19:03] <Kroach> does zenity --list --checklist/--radiolist have an item limit?
[19:03] <ddosantos> it actually mounts the drive typing mount /media/externo
[19:03] <jhutchins_wk> qhartman: That won't create a bootable drive.
[19:03] <zykotick9> qhartman: if it's a bootable iso, i highly doubt your method would work.
[19:04] <Grandpa_smasher> sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[19:04] <Guest1649> will some body tell what is full form of GRUB
[19:04] <ddosantos> thanks you all for your time
[19:04] <Grandpa_smasher> Guest1649,  full form?
[19:04] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Then it _shoud_ automount if you connect it after boot, but because the iomega has replaceable cartridges it might not.
[19:04] <qhartman> jhutchins_wk, zykotick9 - he never said that's what he needed to do, just that he had an iso and that he wanted to "burn" to usb.
[19:04] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Well, whatever other dns server you want to use OpenDNS maintains several, but you would need to look them up, I don't remember them.  Google maintains an easy one to remember 8.8.8.8
[19:05] <ddosantos> yes, it automounts, but in another path
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: I think the next thing to check is seeing if it mounts properly if it's powered up at boot.
[19:05] <Grandpa_smasher> ty kunji ill try the google one
[19:05] <ddosantos> that was my idea, yes
[19:05] <ddosantos> I don't know why I didn't think of that before
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> qhartman: Do you have an objection to using the method used for install isos?
[19:06] <Kroach> Guest1649: you mean what the shortcut stands for? GRand Unified Bootloader
[19:06] <Nitesh> any girl here.....16-22
[19:07] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: Your method _should_ work - it works for USB drives I have in order to define permissions for the mounts, but the iomega, well, rules are different.
[19:07] <kunji> Grandpa_smasher: Actually though I think it will still try the other one first, as it is primary and so it still may be slow.  You might need to set up a static ip to force it to use only the dns entries you set (I believe it grabs others through DHCP).
[19:07] <ddosantos> jhutchins_wk: thanks for the support, I will make some tests. I think I will set the settings to noauto and mount it manually when needed, as I don't it need it to be always there
[19:07] <ddosantos> don't need it*
[19:07] <Bookwormser> Hello, how do you disable tftp service?
[19:07] <Nitesh> any girl here.....16-22
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> ddosantos: You might experiment with blkid on the drive without a cartridge vs with one.
[19:08] <mda> hello
[19:08] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: How did you enable it?
[19:08] <qhartman> jhutchins_wk, not neccesarily. Depends on what the person is trying to do exactly. If they are trying to a make a bootable USB from a bootable ISO, it makes sense. If they just need the files on the drive, it's overly complicated and requires that anythingalready on the drive be lost.
[19:08] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: Not sure. It came up on an audit.
[19:08] <DJones> Nitesh: Wrong channel for dating
[19:08] <ddosantos> I don't know what's a cartridge
[19:08] <mda> hello - i just installed ubuntu on an usb with universal usb installer i did  NOT choose persistant file size - does uvuntu save data on my usb if i browse or use skype !? ty
[19:09] <ddosantos> I'm googling it
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: No way to find out who enabled it & why?
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: It's not trivial to set up, so they must've had a good reason.
[19:09] <kunji> Nitesh: This is not a dating chat, stop being an asshole.
[19:09] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: I can ask around. It shouldn't be enabled though, as this is just a historical data server.
[19:09] <tqrst> BluesKaj: uptime pissing contest? What? I was just asking why you were focusing on "startup scripts" given that I haven't "Started up" in forever.
[19:09] <qhartman> jhutchins_wk, if they just need the stuff from the image on the USB disk, then mounting / copying is the most expedient method to get it.
[19:09] <ddosantos> thanks again, see you another time. Bye
[19:09] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: Off the top of my head /etc/init.d/tftpd stop should turn it off, then use update-rc.conf to prevent it from auto-starting.
[19:10] <mda> anyone  ?
[19:10] <mda> hello - i just installed ubuntu on an usb with universal usb installer i did  NOT choose persistant file size - does uvuntu save data on my usb if i browse or use skype !? ty
[19:10] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: Thanks, I will check it out.
[19:10] <kunji> mda: I believe not, you could just check though, since you've already installed it
[19:10] <mda> ty but how can i check ?
[19:11] <jhutchins_wk> Bookwormser: tftp is mostly used for PXE - booting from the network.  It's sometimes used to transfer files to embedded devices (programming a router).
[19:12] <kunji> mda: Umm, I mean just literally check the places you think it might be saved and see if it is.  I think you will not find any though.  For instance, you could bookmark a page, reboot, and see if there is a bookmark.
[19:12] <Bookwormser> jhutchins_wk: Excellent, thank you. I got it squared away now.
[19:13] <jhutchins_wk> xlnt
[19:16] <pushcx> I'm running 12.10 and trying to get Nautilus to forget the password to an afp share I told it to 'remember always'. Everything I can find says it should be in seahorse, but zero of my network share passwords are in there. Where else should I look?
[19:19] <trees> I desperately need help repairing my GRUB2 setup, its stuck in repair mode
[19:19] <trees> and Im kindof lost on how to fix it
[19:20] <number9> I installed ubuntu 12.04 via the alternate install disk with lvm and full encryption onto a 320GB hard drive. When I go into thunar it tells me that I have only 80GB free, and it lists a 320GB hard drive that is unmountable as a 'removable drive' is this normal?
[19:21] <niallobroin> I'm trying to install opendkim and opendkim-tools on precise, but there's a version conflict. opendkim-tools : Breaks: opendkim (< 2.5.2+dfsg-2~) but 2.5.2+dfsg-1ubuntu3 is to be installed  Should I file a launchpad bug?
[19:22] <hillary> i installed winff in ubuntu 12.04 and it used to work but it is no longer doing any conversion. Any problem?
[19:22] <alimj> number9: I also use LVM with encryption... What you say is not normal!
[19:23] <number9> alimj: that's what I thought. When I go in in gparted things look semi normal though, a small boot partition and then an extended encrypted partition for the rest of the disk.
[19:24] <alimj> You should have everything else on that encrypted partition (including swap)
[19:24] <alimj> number9: My setup is 32gb for root, 4gb for swap and the rest for /home
[19:26] <alimj> number9: Plus one small un-encrypted 2gb partition for /boot
[19:26] <number9> alimj: thanks for your help, I might try a reinstall?
[19:27] <alimj> number9: Not necessarily.
[19:27] <alimj> number9: Please note that the system shows LVM2 partition and it can not mount it
[19:28] <ns-nazri> i have problem! i have smartphone neo L, when i connect usb in my linux, it is not working, what happen?
[19:29] <number9> alimj: well that's the weird thing is that it does mount because there is only that one partition, and so that is where my /home /swap and whatever are! But a harddrive shows up on my desktop that is 320GB that is unmountable
[19:30] <alimj> number9: That 320GB is the main LVM2 container. You should take care about the partitions within the LVM2
[19:30] <ns-nazri> but i see not have smartphone computer
[19:30] <alimj> number9: Please wait a second, I am looking into my notes to send you a useful URL
[19:31] <alimj> number9: after creating the LVM, use something like these commands: lvcreate -n swap -L 8G vg
[19:32] <hillary> any problem with my winff ubuntu 12.04
[19:32] <Phonequer> If I have libboost-filesystem1.50-dev installed, does it automatically provide libboost-filesystem-dev? The same for 1.49 ?
[19:32] <alimj> number9: lvcreate -n home -l 100%FREE vg
[19:32] <alimj> number9: Please take note of -l 100%FREE
[19:32] <alimj> number9: Then you can: mkswap  /dev/mapper/vg-swap
[19:33] <alimj> number9: ... and: mkfs.ext4 -L home /dev/mapper/vg-home
[19:33] <simpleuser> Hello there. Did someone try to configure Kobo after buying it, on Ubuntu ? I followed this tuto : http://nicofonk.fr/index.php?article9/installer-kobo-desktop-sur-debian-ou-ubuntu
[19:34] <alimj> number9: Actually I created a separate lv for root (/)
[19:34] <simpleuser> But now when i launch "Kobo" in terminal i get this : "/usr/local/Kobo/Kobo: error while loading shared libraries: libicuuc.so.44: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[19:34] <ciccio> list
[19:34] <simpleuser> Any idea ?
[19:34] <alimj> number9: before creating /home I did: lvcreate -n root -L 32G vg
[19:35] <alimj> number9: However, you can have both /home and / on the same partition
[19:35] <alimj> number9: Or better to say, on the same logical volume...
[19:36] <number9> alimj: Thanks! I'll look into that. Is there a simple way to look into that without changing my configuration? Also will suspend (risky from a privacy standpoint, but convenient) and hibernate work?
[19:36] <alimj> yes
[19:36] <alimj> number9: One moment...
[19:37] <xkernel> is there a calender application that integrates with the desktop to give alerts on schedules?
[19:37] <simpleuser> Anyone ?
[19:37] <alimj> number9: lvextend, lvdisplay
[19:37] <alimj> number9: The first command should be able to extend a logical volume to the entire available space on volume group
[19:38] <alimj> number9: The first command is really useful. It displays the currently status
[19:39] <alimj> number9: Also lvscan
[19:39] <number9> alimj: thanks again, a bunch! I was not making progress in google alone. I'll try these things out and return if I have others! you're the best!
[19:39] <semarjt> hey guys, i got a new ubuntu install, it seemed to install ok and even  booted once. However now when i boot I get the black screen/blinking cursor forever. Most solutions involv changing grub...I cant even get grub to come up (holding shift does nothing) going back to the livecd (usb key) i can mount and explore the filesystem..
[19:39] <alimj> number9: Home it helps.
[19:39] <semarjt> (12.04)
[19:40] <alimj> number9: I will be going. Others will help
[19:40] <dufa> Hello! I have recieved a bootable dvd and would like to verify that the burned iso is actually the right one. I know what the md5 of the iso should be, but I am unceirtan as to how to verify the burned cd. Any help?
[19:41] <alimj> dufa: Check md5 of the DVD
[19:41] <alimj> dufa: use md5sum /dev/sr0
[19:42] <alimj> dufa: /dev/sr0 should be replaced with your DVD drive address
[19:42] <dufa> alimj: the dvd is in /dev/sr0, should md5sum /dev/sr0 return the the correct sum?
[19:42] <alimj> dufa: YES
[19:42] <dufa> alimj: well, I thought so, but it doesn't
[19:43] <alimj> dufa: As soon as you execute the command, DVD starts spinning fast and reads the entire DVD
[19:43] <alimj> dufa: Then the DVD is not same as ISO
[19:43] <mimir> hi, i have a ASUS ROG G75VW laptop with AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (ath9k driver) and wireless n does;t work at all. won't see any n networks...
[19:44] <dufa> alimj: ok, it seems it isn't, just wanted to make sure as i didn't burn it myself, thanks
[19:44] <alimj> dufa: Anytime
[19:44] <mimir> connection is stable on 2.4Ghz, but it's slow... :(
[19:44] <mimir> can i do anything to enable n?
[19:44] <alimj> OK, Bye guys - Time to sleep. zZz zZz
[19:45] <jhutchins_wk> !ath9k
[19:45] <mimir> !ath9k
[19:45] <Amacidia> Hey everyone. I have several DVD's that store some tar/gz files. No matter what disc I use, I'm always getting "Error splicing file: input/output error". Any ideas?
[19:46] <mimir> looks like the bot doesn't know anything about ath9k
[19:46] <Amacidia> I'm trying to copy the files off the dvd onto the local drive.
[19:46] <jhutchins_wk> mimir: You need the ath9k_htc driver + firmware.
[19:47] <mimir> jhutchins_wk: cool, let me look into that
[19:47] <mimir> jhutchins_wk: thanks :)
[19:48] <hillary> iceroot: still there?
[19:50] <hillary> Am preparing for RHCE exam  in 4 months any body with study resources to help me?
[19:51] <SocialEvil> guys if i want to open a program in a terminal, how can i open it but when i close the terminal, the program to continue to work ?
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: #rhel
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  use screen
[19:51] <mimir> jhutchins_wk: hm looks like my device isnt' in the supported devices list: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc/devices
[19:51] <dspohn> didn't work hillary?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  type screen, then enter, then the program
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> SocialEvil: Then detach the session.
[19:52] <hillary> dspohn: iceroot helped and now it perfect! Thank you good people
[19:53] <dspohn> hillary, I saw that.. good job
[19:53] <hillary> jhutchins_wk: Redhat certified engineer exams
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> SocialEvil  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[19:54] <zykotick9> SocialEvil: i'm a long time screen user, but recently switched to tmux... just something to consider
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: THe people in rhel may know of some resources.  Be aware that because RedHat is in the buisiness of making money by selling those resources they're harder to find free than similar material for Ubuntu.
[19:54] <SocialEvil> thank you guys
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> hillary: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/ is useful
[19:54] <hillary> xchat people are really encouraging
[19:55] <dspohn> irssi user here
[19:55] <folorn> anyone know a good web cam application besides cheese that WORKS?
[19:55] <hillary> jhutchins_wk: your advice to me?
[19:56] <folorn> cheese just trys to load then quits out so i dont know what to do ...could anyone help?
[19:56] <folorn> i need it for pictures and taking videos
[19:56] <hillary> jhutchins_wk: am open source fun and wish to promote linux in kenya
[19:59] <folorn> nobody got any ideas then?
[20:00] <thechef> Is nvidia 310 going to land in Ubuntu LTS any soon as non-experimental?
[20:01] <thechef> I think on NVIDIAs side it's a non-experimental release - does the integration to LTS make problems?
[20:01] <iceroot> thechef: it will never be there normally
[20:02] <iceroot> thechef: there will be no major-updates within an ubuntu-release, only security-fixes
[20:02] <thechef> iceroot: what is then the difference between current and current-updates?
[20:03] <iceroot> thechef: you mean "precise" and "precise-updates" for example?
[20:03] <hany> can you help me?
[20:03] <thechef> iceroot: no, specifically in the case of nvidia: nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates (at least I think that's the name of the packages)
[20:03] <iceroot> thechef: dont know
[20:04] <hany> i want install package c++
[20:04] <Alocer> iceroot: in additional drivers.
[20:05] <thechef> iceroot: well it says in jockey or "additional drivers" that nvidia-current-updates contains "Nachträgliche Aktualisierung" which translated to english means "updates which were made available after". If I understand correctly this means that it contains drivers which were made available AFTER the release of Ubuntu LTS - so I expect it to contain 310 sooner or later..
[20:06] <iceroot> thechef: yes, sounds like nvidia is patching there package with newer stuff
[20:06] <tacotruck123> I have a usb drive that is showing it is write protected in windows...when I launch gparted and try to format it...it gives me input output error. Any ideas?
[20:07] <iceroot> thechef: the packages maintained by ubuntu will not hit major updates (there are a few exceptions)
[20:07] <Alocer> iceroot: 310 is experimental i think
[20:08] <thechef> iceroot: I'd guess the nvidia drivers would be such an exception, just like other kernel stuff (such as kernel backports)
[20:10] <iceroot> thechef: its up to nvidia, ubuntu is not maintaining the nvidia package
[20:11] <Alocer> iceroot: what about the tests ?
[20:11] <Alocer> iceroot: will Ubuntu test the packages?
[20:11] <Wug> Would anyone by any chance know a command I could use to force reconfigure chromium-browser and all of its dependencies?
[20:11] <iceroot> Alocer: as i said, its all up to nvidia
[20:12] <iceroot> Wug: sudo dpkg --reconfigure packagename  should work
[20:12] <Ashe`> hi, I'm having some issue: trying to use llvm 3.3 (which I built and then statically linked against), however it seems like libLLVM-3.1.so is used by OpenGL (from the look of it) and the two don't really play along: http://pastebin.com/mgJuARmq
[20:13] <Ashe`> (that's without installing the llvm-dev package, by the way)
[20:13] <Wug> iceroot: that doesnt reconfigure dependencies
[20:14] <ciccia> ciao
[20:14] <Wug> I can't view a specific webpage, I get a nonsensical error
[20:14] <Wug> I'm convinced its a broken dependency somewhere because reinstalling it didnt fix it and other browsers (and the same browser on other computers) work fine
[20:14] <Alocer> Wug: look in ~/.config maybe there is sth to change or delete there
[20:15] <ciccia> list
[20:15] <ThinkT510> Wug: sure its not an extension you installed?
[20:15] <Wug> It used to work and suddenly stopped, and no amount of flushing settings has worked
[20:16] <Wug> I haven't installed any extensions
[20:16] <Alocer> Wug: e.g. www.yahoo.com, you can ping it but cant browse it with chromium or firefox ?
[20:17] <Wug> its https://cs.rit.edu
[20:17] <Wug> I can see it fine without https and from firefox
[20:17] <Wug> only chrome doesn't work, gives error 2
[20:17] <Wug> (Unknown Error)
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> Wug: Look for a .chromium folder in your homedir.  Rename or delete.
[20:18] <ThinkT510> Wug: The site's security certificate is not trusted! < thats what i get
[20:18] <Wug> yeah, its self signed
[20:18] <Wug> I dont even get the warning page
[20:19] <Wug> renaming ~/.config/chromium did not fix it (but it cleared all of my history, settings, and extensions)
[20:20] <Wug> my one extension which I guess I did have (installed for months, has never caused issues before, likely unrelated)
[20:20] <Alocer> Wug: so if you hadn't added the security certificate then it should give you error. am i right ?
[20:20] <Wug> it should warn me that the certificate is self signed, but it doesnt
[20:20] <Wug> I get absolutely nothing
[20:20] <ThinkT510> Wug: i thought you said you haven't installed any extensions
[20:20] <Wug> ThinkT510: I thought so too, but I had one
[20:20] <Wug> its unrelated.
[20:21] <ThinkT510> Wug: are you sure?
[20:21] <Wug> renaming ~/.config/chromium removed it and problem persists
[20:22] <drokita> Has anyone else had an upgrade of Ubuntu 12.04 to kernel 3.6.6 break their video and display?
[20:22] <ThinkT510> drokita: kernel upgrades can't be supported here
[20:22] <Alocer> Wug: i m thinking the problem is caused by the website. maybe your firefox is using cache to view the website
[20:22] <djzn> j #archlinux
[20:23] <drokita> ThinkT510: ok... is there a better forum for that?
[20:23] <Wug> Alocer: documents there are updated frequently, I've made absolutely sure that the problem is exclusive to chromium
[20:23] <Alocer> :-?
[20:24] <Wug> if you were to accept the invalid (self signed) cert you'd be able to see everything there
[20:24] <Alocer> correct
[20:25] <ThinkT510> Wug: and you are using the chromium from the repo?
[20:25] <Brewster> ok so I have really ruined my computer
[20:25] <Wug> ThinkT510: chromium-browser, Version 23.0.1271.97 Ubuntu 12.04 (23.0.1271.97-0ubuntu0.12.04.1)
[20:25] <Salastil> Does anyone know of a way to launch xchat at startup that allows it to be closed to the desktop? When have it autostarted it closes and the process can't be reclaimed. However when I close it and restart the program it works just fine. Is there a command I can set in the boot sequence to do this?
[20:26] <millennia> Brewster | aww, what happened?
[20:27] <Brewster> Basically I went to update my graphics drivers and now nothing works. I set up ubuntu so that my home folder is encrypted. How would I back that up and restore it?
[20:27] <Wug> Brewster: if you hit ctrl+alt+F1 do you get a shell?
[20:27] <Wug> if you do you can fix things from there
[20:28] <drokita> What forum does one go to discuss Ubuntu kernel upgrade problems
[20:28] <drokita> ?
[20:28] <shock_one> drokita, try askubuntu
[20:28] <Brewster> it goes to a terminal log in but after like 15 seconds the monitor loses signal and everything freezes
[20:28] <drokita> shock_one: thanks!
[20:29] <millennia> Brewster | you could back up it's data in encrypted form, but there might be no way to restore it from another Os install
[20:29] <Brewster> I have that key that it gave me when it was encrypted
[20:30] <Wug> Brewster: try a different monitor.  The terminal should more or less always work and does not require graphics drivers to work.  I've had monitors that didn't like to display the ttys for long
[20:30] <Wug> they'd flicker back and forth between showing it and "signal out of band"
[20:30] <millennia> Brewster | ok. then maybe you could
[20:31] <Brewster> I guess this was for the better... I was planning on backing everything up and then installing windows for gaming and then ubuntu on top of it for a while now
[20:32] <Wug> Brewster: chances are you could boot to single user mode or something and fix the drivers
[20:33] <Wug> you could probably also boot it and ssh into it
[20:33] <Wug> borked graphics shouldnt stop ssh from working
[20:35] <millennia> Brewster | Is you graphics/monitor setup anything special or just a standard one video card and one monitor?
[20:36] <sobotka> hi there
[20:36] <sobotka> need some advice, anybody care to help?
[20:37] <qhartman> don't ask to ask, just ask, and if someone is willing / able to help, they will.
[20:37] <DJones> sobotka Without details, nobody will know whether they can help
[20:37] <sobotka> i have a 10.10 ubuntu netbook remix
[20:37] <sobotka> on my netbook
[20:38] <bekks> sobotka: 10.10 isnt supported anymore.
[20:38] <Wug> just ask anyway
[20:38] <sobotka> i know. so i think it's time to get rid of it
[20:38] <sobotka> what do you suggest i should do: upgrade 11.04 then 11.10 or clean install
[20:38] <Brewster> millennia: one video card 2 monitors
[20:38] <millennia> sobotka | you see, if it was 10.04 it would still be supported :)
[20:38] <sobotka> yea i know
[20:39] <Brewster> oh ssh
[20:39] <millennia> sobotka | always go for the clean install
[20:39] <Brewster> didn't think of that
[20:39] <OerHeks> sobotka, my choice would be do a clean install
[20:40] <millennia> Brewster | does it work with just one monitor? connected?
[20:40] <Brewster> sure
[20:40] <sobotka> of course, clean install seams right, but it's more painful for me: usb boot out of the question
[20:40] <Brewster> I can turn one off and it works just fine
[20:40] <sobotka> *seems
[20:40] <sobotka> so is it really nasty to try to double upgrade?
[20:41] <millennia> Brewster | that narrows down your problem. The drivers are ok and don't need to be reinstalled. You just need to configure them for dual monitors
[20:41] <Brewster> le sigh
[20:42] <belgianguy> at this point, if I get a VPS, am I better off with 12.10 or 12.04 LTS?
[20:42] <bekks> belgianguy: 12.04
[20:42] <belgianguy> for a server I'd opt for 12.04 LTS
[20:42] <Brewster> but I know the drivers don't work now. Apparently 310 doesn
[20:42] <belgianguy> bekks: ah, k :)
[20:42] <millennia> sobotka | even one upgrade is a game of russian rouletter with 3 bullets
[20:42] <bcuraboy> hi guys..i've managed to install Pear Linux in dual boot with win8.but after i've installed the nvidia driver from the additional drivers aplicattion,when i rebooted the system it appears only a black screen with the command line..what should i do?
[20:42] <Brewster> t support nvidia 7x cards
[20:42] <ThinkT510> millennia: you don't need a pipe to send a message
[20:43] <Brewster> probably didn't use the right words but I know this driver wasn't written for my graphics card
[20:43] <sobotka> millennia: i've upgraded several times before with no problems whatsoever, but never attempted a double upgrade
[20:43] <millennia> Brewster ++ if it wasn't the right driver, it wouldn't work in single monitor mode either
[20:44] <Brewster> exactly
[20:44] <Brewster> I still see the terminal login
[20:44] <Brewster> no fancy gui's
[20:44] <Brewster> just text
[20:45] <Wug> ThinkT510: update.  I receive the following message on stdout when I attempt to visit the page: [16496:16523:0128/153851:ERROR:cert_verify_proc_nss.cc(760)] CERT_PKIXVerifyCert for www.cs.rit.edu failed err=-8016
[20:45] <theseus> here is a weird one,  minimizing Thunderbird logs me out of ubuntu 12.04.  Can anyone relate and solve?
[20:46] <millennia> Brewster := what was your video card and which driver are you using?
[20:46] <sobotka> so i guess there's no more "ubuntu netbook remix". anybody know how 12.04 works on netbooks?
[20:46] <Brewster> I believe it was geforce 7950
[20:47] <Brewster> and I had attempted to update to 310
[20:47] <Brewster> the official ones
[20:47] <millennia> Brewster := you men the proprietary official drivers?
[20:47] <Brewster> yes
[20:47] <red82> www-docs is the ubuntu equivalent of the apache user in fedora ?
[20:50] <bekks> red82: No. www-data is the apache-user in Ubuntu.
[20:50] <red82> bekks: right, data.  my bad.
[20:50] <red82> ty
[20:51] <millennia> Brewster | which version were you using before the upgrade to 310?
[20:52] <BrianV_> Hello folks :), Who is willing to help me with a -minor- crontab issue?
[20:52] <Brewster> some variation of 304
[20:53] <millennia> Brewster | and it worked ok with dual monitors?
[20:53] <Brewster> yes
[20:53] <Wug> hey, I fixed it
[20:53] <Wug> I had an old certificate stored for it
[20:54] <Wug> some sort of buggy behavior was happening and the error it was giving me was bogus
[20:54] <Wug> but removing the old certificate and restarting the browser fixed it.
[20:55] <millennia> Brewster | would it be a poison pill to revert back to 304?
[20:55] <Brewster> absolutely not
[20:55] <jrib> BrianV_: just give your details in your question
[20:55] <millennia> Brewster | I'm guessing that would be the best remedy then
[20:56] <Brewster> but I have tried that
[20:56] <Brewster> uninstalling the nvidia experimental and then installing nvidia-current-updates
[20:56] <Brewster> I have even tried the manual installation from the nvidia site
[20:56] <Brewster> no luck there
[20:57] <BrianV_> jrib: I have a ubuntu 12.04 LTS server running, but when I create a crontab entry with crontab -e nothing happens. i.e: the given task is not running. No errors in the cron.log
[20:57] <millennia> Brewster | so you completed all that but it's still broken? :(
[20:57] <jrib> BrianV_: do you have a final newline in your crontab?
[20:57] <Brewster> yes
[20:58] <BrianV_> jrib: what do you mean with final newline?
[20:58] <jrib> BrianV_: an empty line at the bottom of your file
[20:58] <BrianV_> jrib: yes I have. Since 'nano' adds it automatically.
[20:58] <Aknot> Anyone know how i can add intergalactic fm stations to radio tray? Their stations can be only dled from facebook page but radio tray requires url. https://www.facebook.com/IntergalacticFM/app_297412757023541
[20:59] <jrib> BrianV_: pastebin your crontab
[21:00] <BrianV_> jrib: SHELL=/bin/bash
[21:00] <BrianV_> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[21:00] <BrianV_> # m h dom mon dow user  command
[21:00] <BrianV_> */5 * * * * nobody /usr/bin/php /home/vs320/domains/bvprod.com/public_html/support/api/cron.php
[21:00] <jrib> BrianV_: use a pastebin
[21:02] <millennia> Brewster | apparently you are mot the only victim of this exact same bug
[21:03] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583620/plain/
[21:03] <Eagleman> Is it possible to shutdown an interface when a specific quota is reached?
[21:03] <Brewster> I know
[21:04] <Brewster> I took out my hard drive in an attempt to recover my home folder but that didn't work
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  sounds like you need a  #bash script to that end
[21:04] <Brewster> I have a hard drive to usb adaptor
[21:04] <millennia> Brewster | I can't find anyone who solved it short of a complete reinstall
[21:04] <Brewster> but anyway I put my drive back in and now my whole computer doesn't work
[21:04] <jrib> BrianV_: you said you used crontab -e?
[21:05] <BrianV_> jrib: yes
[21:05] <Brewster> so I will be back later when I disassemble and reassemble my computer
[21:05] <Eagleman> MonkeyDust, they send me right back to ubuntu
[21:05] <Brewster> but millennia: thanks for your help :)
[21:05] <jrib> Brewster: this file does not have the proper format for a user's crontab.  It looks more like /etc/crontab
[21:05] <Brewster> um
[21:05] <Brewster> what
[21:05] <jrib> Brewster: sorry.
[21:05] <Brewster> I'll just go
[21:06] <jrib> BrianV_: this file does not have the proper format for a user's crontab.  It looks more like /etc/crontab
[21:06] <chris_> I've installed ubuntu on a laptop and it is not detecting the wireless card.  When the Live CD booted up first the additional hardware box came up and said that it detected a wireless device whose drivers needed activating, but now it's not coming up.   What steps do I have to take to get the drivers working on this installed ubuntu?
[21:06] <mvk> [ 2400.445633] CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 317)
[21:06] <BrianV_> jrib: but it should work right? or am I wrong?
[21:06] <jrib> BrianV_: no, it won't work.
[21:06] <mvk> on my macbook air, with 12.10  -  3.5.0.22 kernel
[21:07] <jrib> BrianV_: get rid of the user column
[21:07] <mvk> why does this happen!?
[21:07] <chrisc__> How do I mount an nfs directory to a directory /logs if there are active processes writing data to the directory? Would I need to init to a different level or maybe kill the processes, rename the folder to save current data, then mount the nfs to /logs, then restart? Would this work?
[21:07] <millennia> mvk | cpus can get hot without power management
[21:08] <BrianV_> jrib: so I have to remove the username "nobody" from the line?
[21:08] <jrib> BrianV_: sure
[21:08] <mvk> millennia, its a macbook, i expect there is power management
[21:08] <JuJuBee> I need to boot a computer from usb stick and copy the contents of HD to a server.  How do I do that and retain ownership and permissions?  rsync -azvv set ownership to the remote user account...
[21:08] <mvk> on this intel I5 system
[21:09] <millennia> mvk | I don't know about macbooks, but pc power management is at least partly controlled by the OS
[21:09] <mvk> millennia, should be the same with macbook
[21:09] <chris_> Hello. I've installed ubuntu on a laptop and it is not detecting the wireless card.  When the Live CD booted up first the additional hardware box came up and said that it detected a wireless device whose drivers needed activating, but now it's not coming up.   What steps do I have to take to get the drivers working on this installed ubuntu?
[21:09] <OerHeks> mvk maybe you need fancontrol > https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=quantal from this mactel ppa
[21:10] <ThinkT510> chris_: lspci
[21:10] <millennia> chris_ | what kindof wireless is it? builtin or usb?
[21:10] <bekks> JuJuBee: Use "--numeric-ids" with rsync.
[21:10] <ThinkT510> chris_: i'm guessing its going to be a broadcom
[21:10] <chris_> ThinkT510: built in
[21:10] <BrianV_> jrib: I added * * * * * echo "Cron Worked $(date)" >> /tmp/cronworked.txt to the cron. Let's see if it works.
[21:10] <chris_> ThinkT510: yes broadcom was displayed in the addtional drivers on the livecd
[21:11] <ThinkT510> !b43 | chris_
[21:11] <chris_> ThinkT510: thanks
[21:11] <mvk> OerHeks, good point, i havent heard the fan yet!
[21:11] <cortexman> when i install open-vm-tools in a virtual machine it says "not starting as we're not running in a vm"
[21:12] <cortexman> (this is quantal)
[21:12] <chris_> ThinkT510: it's a BCM4312
[21:13] <millennia> chris_ | your only option then is to install "ndis-wrapper" and use the windows driver
[21:13] <JuJuBee> bekks: that's fine, but when using cli from live usb, the user is ubuntu (id 999) but the HD is mostly owned by root (id 0)...  Trying to make a template for ltsp client
[21:13] <jhutchins_wk> cortexman: Probably a vmware issue, make sure you have the latest/matching version for the host.
[21:13] <BrianV_> jrib: nothing happens.. cronworked.txt is still empty (read 0 lines)
[21:13] <bekks> JuJuBee: Then use sudo
[21:14] <jrib> BrianV_: the file  got created ?
[21:15] <BrianV_> manually yes.. i did a touch cronworked.txt in the /tmp dir.
[21:15] <Styler2go> Hello Guys, how can i pack multiple dirs into one tar?
[21:15] <BrianV_> jrib: manually yes.. i did a touch cronworked.txt in the /tmp dir.
[21:15] <jrib> BrianV_: what user are you doing this as?
[21:15] <BrianV_> jrib: currently as root
[21:16] <jrib> BrianV_: output of « crontab -l »?
[21:16] <theadmin> Styler2go: tar cf something.tar d1 d2 d3
[21:16] <chris_> millennia: what about the b43 open source driver?
[21:16] <theadmin> Styler2go: For compression, use either "tar czf something.tar.gz d1 d2 d3" or "tar cjf something.tar.bz2 d1 d2 d3"
[21:16] <Styler2go> is this the best way to make a comlete backup? tar the dirs etc, home and var?
[21:16] <jrib> !backup | Styler2go
[21:17] <JuJuBee> bekks: sudo rsync -azvv / remoteuser@remote.ip:/path/to/destination ??
[21:17] <bekks> JuJuBee: sudo rsync -azvv --numeric-ids ...
[21:17] <millennia> chris_ | try it
[21:17] <JuJuBee> Ah, ok
[21:18] <chris_> millennia: which is easiest to install and get running?
[21:18] <BrianV_> jrib: the output is my crontab file.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583666/plain/
[21:18] <Styler2go> tar cf backup.tar /etc /var /home  error:   tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[21:18] <theadmin> Styler2go: That's acceptable.
[21:18] <Styler2go> oh
[21:19] <Styler2go> so.. it worked? :D
[21:19] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep cron
[21:19] <Wug> ThinkT510: in case you were curious, its because the CA is signed with md5, which provokes the error 8016 response (SEC_ERROR_CERT_SIGNATURE_ALGORITHM_DISABLED) for which support is apparently buggy
[21:19] <theadmin> Styler2go: Well, if it's finished and you're back to the prompt, then yes. But the problem is it will never finish if you're doing this on the same system you're  currently working on.
[21:19] <Styler2go> aaah i got it...
[21:19] <theadmin> Styler2go: Because the directories will keep changing, it wil keep updating them, etc
[21:19] <Wug> because of buggy support it gets propagated as unknown error
[21:19] <BrianV_> jrib: root     26219 27101  0  2012 pts/8    00:00:00 grep --color=auto cron (with cron in red)
[21:19] <ThinkT510> Wug: glad you figured it out
[21:20] <Wug> I need to go yell at the cs department apparently
[21:20] <jrib> BrianV_: so cron isn't running....  How did you install ubuntu?
[21:20] <JuJuBee> bekks: same thing happens
[21:20] <millennia> chris_ | that's a good question. They both aren't effortless. But the open source b43 drivers don't work for a lot of cards, so you might end up using ndiswrapper anyways
[21:20] <chris_> millennia: ok you've made my mind up.
[21:20] <bizhanMona> HI I have observed a strange behavior, when I install ubuntu on any of my system later on if I want to install RHEL/Fedora after successful installation I get grub failure, and system stops at grub rescue prompt,not sure why? Thx
[21:20] <Styler2go> so my command will never end?
[21:21] <BrianV_> jrib: I did not installed ubuntu myself. My friend installed it for me.
[21:21] <jrib> BrianV_: apt-cache  policy cron
[21:22] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583677/
[21:23] <jrib> BrianV_: sudo service cron status
[21:24] <BrianV_> jrib: cron stop/waiting
[21:24] <jrib> BrianV_: sudo service cron start
[21:25] <BrianV_> jrib: cron start/running (I tried this before tho.. Let's see if it will work)
[21:25] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep cron
[21:25] <BrianV_> jrib: still same message, root     18002 27101  0  2012 pts/8    00:00:00 grep --color=auto cron (with cron in red)
[21:25] <jrib> BrianV_: so cron didn't start...
[21:26] <BrianV_> jrib: service cron status
[21:26] <BrianV_> cron start/running
[21:26] <jrib> BrianV_: you're sure the only line of output for ps -ef | grep cron was the one you pasted?
[21:27] <BrianV_> jrib: yes 100% sure
[21:27] <jrib> BrianV_: what happens when you run cron directly with « sudo cron »?
[21:27] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:27] <shadow98> how do i find out what the mount path is
[21:28] <BrianV_> jrib: cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 26055: Resource temporarily unavailable
[21:28] <jrib> BrianV_: cat /var/run/crond.pid
[21:28] <MrSassyPants> in ubuntu, what's the way to remove/add stuff from /etc/init.d/ to the individual runlevels ?
[21:29] <BrianV_> jrib: but it does put a new line in cronworked.txt!
[21:29] <BrianV_> jrib: your command's output is: 26055
[21:29] <jrib> MrSassyPants: sysv-rc-conf  but a lot of services won't be in /etc/init.d nowadays as they've been converted to upstart scripts (see upstart cookbook about manual overrides)
[21:30] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep 26055     shows cron now?
[21:31] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583703/
[21:31] <drhead> Hi, my OS is not showing anything past grub except weird graphical artifacts.  I managed to get it to boot to a command line by editing the grub commands, but I need a GUI and xorg.conf has been deprecated since I last used Linux and I don't know how to force VESA drivers to load.  Could someone tell me the quick way to do that?
[21:31] <paoloumali> is it by design that i cannot edit etc files over sftp? even with default cloud user?
[21:31] <jrib> BrianV_: well cron is running now for whatever reason.  I would reboot and see if cron is coming up when you boot
[21:32] <BrianV_> jrib: i will reboot. hold on.
[21:32] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:33] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | drhead
[21:33] <ThinkT510> drhead: also, if you make a xorg.conf it will be obeyed
[21:33] <Adie__> WOOOOOOOOOOOO INCEST
[21:34] <kunji> paoloumali: cloud user?  You mean you're using an Ubuntu machine up in someone else's cloud?  Then maybe, it all depends on what they allowed users to do in their ssh configuration... also in /etc/  So it is possible by design, but I don't know if they've chosen to restrict that or not.
[21:34] <paoloumali> kunji, im testing out azure
[21:35] <BrianV_> jrib: I have rebooted
[21:35] <jrib> BrianV_: ps -ef | grep -i cron    returns?
[21:35] <User23> does any one know how to fix amd proprietary drivers for ubuntu 12.10, all i can see is just the background i can bring up terminal.
[21:35] <paoloumali> I'm just wondering, im using sftp, and still can't edit etc apache2 files. is this linux by design that admins should do it with sudo?
[21:35] <BrianV_> jrib: root     27320 18557  0  2012 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i cron
[21:36] <jrib> BrianV_: cat /var/run/crond.pid
[21:36] <drhead> so after I use nomodeset, it'll default to vesa and from there I can either actually update ubuntu for the first time in years or maybe even install proprietary nvidia drivers?
[21:36] <BrianV_> jrib: returns: 26055
[21:36] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:36] <kunji> paoloumali:Oh, yeah, I thought you were trying with sudo and it wasn't working for you (that can be configured to restrict access particularly over ssh).
[21:36] <jrib> BrianV_: presumably that's just the old one?  But check: ps -ef | grep 26055
[21:36] <ThinkT510> drhead: years? what version of ubuntu do you have?
[21:37] <BrianV_> jrib: root     31600 18557  0  2012 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 26055
[21:37] <User23> does any one know how to fix amd proprietary drivers for ubuntu 12.10, all i can see is just the background i can bring up terminal. Thanks!
[21:37] <ThinkT510> drhead: nomodeset just disables kernel mode setting, some drivers can act funny with it on
[21:37] <paoloumali> kunji, i have no issue with sudo and working with vi too. just need confirmation as i just realized right now, this is really how linux is. to secure server, most will deactivate password and just use ssh keys?
[21:38] <User23> can any one point me to a fix? please :D
[21:38] <jrib> BrianV_: « cat /etc/init/cron.conf* »    output on pastebin
[21:38] <drhead> ThinkT510: 11.10 on this one, but its just a copy I installed while troubleshooting some problems on this pc.  I haven't actively used Linux for about four years.
[21:39] <kunji> paoloumali: That is used in the case where you need to automate tasks between servers, but you should use a password in conjunction with keys for the best security.
[21:39] <jrib> BrianV_: do you have any other services not starting?
[21:39] <paoloumali> also, since will use this to host mainly a site, is it proper to create a user, and then use his home directory as location for the web files instead of the var/www?
[21:39] <BrianV_> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583722/
[21:39] <jrib> BrianV_: why is it all commented?
[21:39] <paoloumali> kunji, I will use them both then. but what happens if i lost my key, there will be no way anymore to access my server right?
[21:40] <BrianV_> jrib: yes after a reboot I have to start apache2 and mysql manually
[21:40] <ikonia> BrianV_: how about telling us what you've really done
[21:40] <ikonia> your config file is all commented out
[21:40] <ikonia> that doesn't happen on it's own
[21:40] <BrianV_> jrib: I don't know, I have not installed my server.
[21:40] <paoloumali> kunji, i'm on another thread and someone commented about using sftp. is there any security issue with sftp?
[21:40] <jrib> BrianV_: you should discuss these things with the person that installed it... cron isn't starting because its init file is all comments
[21:41] <BrianV_> jrib: ok, but is there a way we can fix this now? or do I have to ask my friend who installed my server?
[21:41] <User23> amd driver fix one ubuntu 12.10? anyone
[21:42] <jrib> BrianV_: you can remove one column of comments from the file
[21:42] <ikonia> User23: problem description, worthless...anyone
[21:42] <kunji> paoloumali: Hmm, not really, come to think of it, that might be a home directory already (for the user apache runs as), but I'm not sure as I don't have apache installed on this machine at the moment.  I wouldn't do it though.  If you lose the key you will not have remote access to the server, someone with physical access could restore access to you, so it would probably involve talking to azure tech support, but you could get access back. 
[21:42] <BrianV_> jrib: which column should I remove?
[21:42] <jrib> BrianV_: the first one
[21:43] <jrib> BrianV_: just the '#' but if there are two '##' then just make it '#'
[21:43] <ikonia> I'd find out why it's disabled before re-enabling it
[21:43] <paoloumali> kunji, awesome! I think I need to read a book on ubuntu web hosting security. do you have any recommendation?
[21:44] <BrianV_> jrib: something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583736/
[21:44] <jrib> BrianV_: yes, but pay mind to ikonia's advice
[21:45] <kunji> paoloumali: I don't have any books for it, I usually just google extensively.  This is a pretty good site though: http://www.cyberciti.biz/  Also Ubuntu has some very good documentation for server, both official and community.
[21:45] <shadow98> if i use file connect to server and connect to web dav server..how do i access that via  command line
[21:46] <alessandro_> hi
[21:46] <paoloumali> kunji, thanks. I need to master this hosting stuff as I will offer a web builder service
[21:46] <BrianV_> jrib: well if I may guess, my friend did not pay attention to cronjob. But if it ain't comment out by default, I will ask him first.
[21:47] <CyberGlitch> Anyone have luck with getting serial console working with a preseed file on 12.10?
[21:47] <ikonia> BrianV_: pay attention to crontab ??? he clearly did as he's taken the time to learn how to disable it cleanly
[21:47] <ikonia> BrianV_: it looks like it's you who's not paid attention by trying incorrect synatax in your crontab file
[21:48] <CyberGlitch> I can get it to work after the fact but I am unsure how to do it with an answer file
[21:48] <BrianV_> jrib: I will ask him first, before enable it again.
[21:48] <jrib> BrianV_: ok
[21:48] <BrianV_> ikonia: I am no ubuntu guru, I just did what my friend told me to do to activate a cronjob.
[21:51] <BrianV_> jrib: thanks for your time. I will hook up with my friend for further assistance :)
[21:51] <alexwaters> why does nothing happen when i do this: sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst 23.234.23.123 -p tcp --dport 3434 -j DNAT --to-destination 278.33.32.123:22
[21:54] <mario__> hello
[21:54] <mario__> I have a problem with ubuntu 12.10, I think it does not recognize well the i3 processor .... I have a partition with windows 7 and ubuntu .... windows 7 is a splinter while ubuntu is slow ... takes 2 to 3 seconds and then opens the programs .... goes like a pentium 4 ....
[21:57] <skinofstars> hi all. quick question, how do i launch programs with unity? like ones which i know are in bin but don't have a .desktop file
[21:58] <jhutchins_wk> mario__: Given the commonality of the i3, I doubt your problem is processor related.
[21:59] <theadmin> skinofstars: alt+f2, type binary name
[21:59] <jhutchins_wk> mario__: Have you checked the I/O usage?  RAM saturation?  Swap?  System loaad?
[21:59] <skinofstars> theadmin: alt+f2! brilliant! thanks!!
[22:00] <mario__> jhutchins_wk no ...how do you?
[22:01] <newwen> screw up
[22:01] <newwen> sorry
[22:01] <mario__> Intel® Core™ i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz × 4
[22:01] <jhutchins_wk> mario__: start with top to see what processes might be hogging CPU, how much ram the system sees, and whether the amount of swap used is changing.
[22:02] <newwen> skinofstars, keep the start (win) button pressed for a cheatsheet of shorcuts
[22:05] <mario__> lshw
[22:05] <mario__>      *-cpu
[22:05] <mario__>           description: CPU
[22:05] <mario__>           product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz
[22:05] <mario__>           vendor: Intel Corp.
[22:05] <mario__>           physical id: 1f
[22:05] <FloodBot1> mario__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <theadmin> mario__: We get that you have a Core i3, why don't you do what people tell you to do instead?
[22:06] <mario__> 800Mhz because ?
[22:07] <mario__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1583794/
[22:07] <mario__> because 800 mhz ?
[22:10] <technologic> help
[22:10] <theadmin> mario__: That's current frequency.
[22:10] <theadmin> mario__: It's normal for the processor not to be working on full speed when it's unnecessary.
[22:10] <toshiba> ola
[22:11] <theadmin> Now "size" is definetly one weird name for that
[22:11] <toshiba> sou novo no ubuntu
[22:11] <jetter> yo guys, have little linux problem anyone can help?
[22:11] <theadmin> jetter: Just ask the question
[22:11] <technologic> help me
[22:11] <angs> how can I see the list of device ID for wlan0, wlan1, etc. interfaces?
[22:12] <jetter> Concept: i want to build web server env. linux + lighttpd + mysql + v8 javascript enginge on fastcgi
[22:12] <theadmin> jetter: Okay... Sounds fine to me, I suppose
[22:13] <jetter> its a longer question, i prefer priv, any linux master minds? ;)
[22:13] <mario__> theadmin thanks
[22:13] <theadmin> jetter: According to the channel rules, you should ask the question directly in the channel, so that everyone can help.
[22:13] <jetter> theadmin: got a minute?
[22:13] <jetter> ok i see
[22:14] <theadmin> jetter: I have time but I'm sleepy and doubt I can help sanely right now :D
[22:14] <theadmin> Is rox still in the repos? Can't find it...
[22:15] <gregeng> \exit
[22:17] <jetter> So i want ssjs and i want v8 to do it. V8 has open source and ready examples of standalone version. But it has no libraries like mysql, cache, etc. So i was wondering if I can use batch scripts that could be executed by this standalone v8. Is it possible and worth my time? :)
[22:18] <jetter> sorry for my english
[22:18] <histo> jetter: What is your native language?
[22:19] <makerbreakr> hi, I have a geforce 9500 GT, with nvidia drivers installed
[22:19] <jetter> histo: polish
[22:19] <makerbreakr> xrandr -q says, I cant not get above 1360x768
[22:19] <histo> !pl | jetter
[22:19] <makerbreakr> what am i missing?
[22:19] <histo> makerbreakr: does your monitor support higher resolutions?
[22:20] <makerbreakr> yes, its a TV
[22:20] <makerbreakr> that does 1920x1080
[22:20] <belgianguy> hm, ssh-copy-id is throwing an error on my server after I succesfully uploaded my public key
[22:20] <histo> makerbreakr: Why do you think it does 1920x1080?
[22:20] <makerbreakr> the documentation
[22:20] <belgianguy> I get the ERROR: No identities found, and also don't seem to have an .ssh folder in my home dir
[22:20] <histo> makerbreakr: how are you connected to the tv?
[22:20] <makerbreakr> its a brand new samsung
[22:20] <belgianguy> but I do have an OpenSSH server running, as I'm connected to it atm
[22:20] <makerbreakr> DVI
[22:21] <tbruff13> can someone help me please
[22:21] <makerbreakr> DVI to VGA
[22:21] <tbruff13> I cannot get libreoffice base to open ms access files or even save in them
[22:21] <makerbreakr> rather
[22:21] <tbruff13> why
[22:21] <tbruff13> it does not even do the 2003 ones
[22:21] <histo> makerbreakr: hrm... You can try specifying modes in your xorg.conf or using nvidia settings app
[22:21] <makerbreakr> libreoffice doesnt suppor access does it?
[22:21] <makerbreakr> histo, I have tried that
[22:22] <makerbreakr> cvt 1920 1080, got the mode line etc
[22:22] <tbruff13> makerbreakr, it is called libreoffice base
[22:22] <makerbreakr> it doesnt want to go above it
[22:22] <tbruff13> and it is supposed to
[22:22] <makerbreakr> ah, nice, I will have to look at it
[22:22] <escott> !enter | tbruff13
[22:23] <escott> belgianguy, anything preventing you from making the ~/.ssh directory
[22:23] <jetter> I am using english.. I think i do. ;) So any keyboard masters? My concept: ssjs v8 on fastcgi with lighttpd.
[22:23] <k1l> tbruff13: access files ar only supported under windows iirc
[22:23] <belgianguy> escott: no, but I wasn't sure whether that would be autocreated by a package
[22:23] <belgianguy> or whether one can just add that folder
[22:24] <escott> belgianguy, nothing in $HOME is auto created unless it is part of /etc/skel
[22:24] <belgianguy> escott: now I created the .ssh dir, but when I execute my ssh-copy-id, it still fails with that error
[22:24] <ross`> how long can a gpart recovery take on a 750gb drive with 7 total partitions, lvm inside extended fourth partition
[22:25] <ross`> not 7 real partitions, not lvm virtuals
[22:25] <escott> belgianguy, is it complaining that you dont have an id_rsa on the computer you are running ssh-copy-id from
[22:25] <ross`> *note* 7 real partitions, not lvm virtuals9~
[22:25] <belgianguy> escott: oh, am I not supposed to run it from the remote machine? I ssh'ed into it after using scp to upload my public key
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> ross`  sounds too specific, best way would be to try and find out
[22:26] <ross`> MonkeyDust: i am trying, i want to know when i can consider this dead
[22:26] <ross`> i.e. 3 hours vs waiting 13 hours
[22:26] <ozzloy> byobu stopped showing the status line for me.  how do i get it back?
[22:26] <ross`> i want to know when it isn't gonna work by
[22:26] <belgianguy> escott: I could generate another keypair on the remote machine
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> ozzloy  F9
[22:26] <ozzloy> i want a list of windows, the current window hilited, that sort of thing. just like before
[22:27] <escott> belgianguy, all it does is scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa user@remote:~/tempfile; followed by cat ~/tempfile ~/.ssh/auth_keys on the remote server
[22:27] <escott> ross`, what is "recovery"
[22:27] <ross`> escott: it is refinding partition bounds
[22:27] <ross`> because somehow it got off by like 8kb
[22:27] <robertzaccour> Anyone else aware of a Kdenlive bug? I thought it may be my system but the bug still there on live iso boot. Whenever I click render it crashes.
[22:27] <ross`> but idk how to do it manually so
[22:28] <ross`> i'm using gpart to auto do it
[22:28] <robertzaccour> so its definitely Ubuntu specific bug.
[22:28] <robertzaccour> But the question is, could it be distro specific?
[22:28] <robertzaccour> I mean distro version.
[22:28] <belgianguy> escott: isn't that the private key? the tutorial I'm following uploads the public key (.pub)
[22:28] <ozzloy> MonkeyDust, i'm gonna need a bit more help than that
[22:28] <escott> ross`, should take only as long as it would to read the entire disk
[22:28] <escott> belgianguy, yeah the pub
[22:29] <ozzloy> MonkeyDust, i don't see a setting there for toggling the status line entirely
[22:29] <belgianguy> escott: I did that, but now I don't get what your cat statement does
[22:29] <ross`> escott: is there a reading harddrive calculator with given harddrive speed, cpu, ram, options?
[22:29] <belgianguy> that file doesn't exist yet here
[22:29] <escott> belgianguy, all it does is scp ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub user@remote:~/tempfile; followed by cat ~/tempfile > ~/.ssh/auth_keys on the remote server
[22:30] <escott> belgianguy, sorry im reading other things and only half paying attention.
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: 1) create keypair on local machine. 2) copy public key to remote machine and append to authorized_keys file.  (This can be done by ssh-copy-id.)
[22:30] <belgianguy> escott, jhutchins_wk: It's the ssh-copy-id that refuses to work
[22:30] <ross`> belgianguy: i'm bored, please tell me what you are trying to do and i will write a shell script to do it
[22:30] <belgianguy> the other steps worked
[22:30] <escott> belgianguy, im just not clear on what machine you are seeing the error message
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> escott: does ssh-copy-id create the remote directory?
[22:30] <belgianguy> escott: on the remote machine
[22:30] <belgianguy> I ssh'ed into it
[22:30] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: That would appear to be because you skipped step 1.
[22:30] <ross`> belgianguy: just use scp and cat >>
[22:31] <escott> belgianguy, you dont run ssh-copy-id on the remote machine
[22:31] <atlef> !grub
[22:31] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: I did generate a keypair with a password
[22:31] <escott> belgianguy, it copies the local key to the remote machine and is run on the local machine
[22:31] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: You also don't run ssh-keygen on the remote machine.
[22:31] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: I ran ssh-keygen on my local machine
[22:31] <escott> unless you are flipping the meaning of local and remote on us
[22:31] <belgianguy> and uploaded the .pub through scp
[22:31] <belgianguy> I'm not
[22:31] <escott> belgianguy, then you dont need copy-id
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: Now run ssh-copy-id on the local machine with the remote user@machine as the target.
[22:32] <ross`> belgianguy: did you cat >> into known_hosts?
[22:32] <ross`> er
[22:32] <ross`> authorized_hosts2 i think
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> ross`: authorized_keys
[22:32] <ross`> yea
[22:32] <ross`> thats it
[22:32] <ross`> i'm going from memory
[22:32] <escott> belgianguy, if you already copied the pub file you can cat your.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and change the permissions
[22:32] <FloodBot1> ross`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:32] <ross`> belgianguy: listen to escott , that is what i suggest
[22:32] <jhutchins_wk> escott: Shouldn't realy need to change permissions...
[22:32] <ross`> don't use the fancy tools, keep is simple, this way you understand what it is doing and why.
[22:33] <escott> jhutchins_wk, no they have to be locked down from the default
[22:33] <ross`> RSA will error if your permissions are public
[22:33] <ross`> i believe
[22:34] <jhutchins_wk> ross`: I guess it depends on the mask.
[22:35] <BlackyShape> ciao
[22:37] <paoloumali> l /etc/profile runs when user has logged in? so changing umask is by appending it to that file?
[22:37] <escott> paoloumali, that would be a global change
[22:37] <jhutchins_wk> Are there any other programs to "burn" bootable USB sticks on Windows besides unetbootin?
[22:38] <bencc> is it possible to use libvirt-sandbox on ubuntu? I couldn't find a deb package, only rpm
[22:42] <tsinnema> has anyone had success in getting sound in java (sun jre) working via padsp?
[22:42] <belgianguy> great, seems you need to chmod .ssh to 700
[22:42] <belgianguy> locked myself out of my server
[22:42] <belgianguy> yay
[22:42] <robertzaccour> I have a Kdenlive issue here, thinking maybe someone here might be able to help.
[22:42] <robertzaccour> Every time I click render, it crashes. I tried it in a live iso session, crashes. From what I can tell its an Ubuntu issue, but could it possibly be a distro version issue? Perhaps if I tried it in the current LTS it might not happen?
[22:42] <chris_> So I tried linux (ubuntu) for the first time in ages and it doesn't work with my broadcom wireless device and I've spent loads of time trying to get it going with no luck.  I give up.
[22:43] <atlef> !b43
[22:43] <iggy_> Hello all :)
[22:43] <belgianguy> I was following a YouTube tutorial, but the clown presenting it didn't care to warn that he forgot chmod as well
[22:44] <chris_> atlef: yes ive followed those horrible instructions with no luck
[22:44] <iggy_> I have a problem installing RatPoison, it's not listed in the available WM in logging screen, where can I find the configuration file to edit ?
[22:44] <atlef> chris_, ok, sorry
[22:44] <belgianguy> he casually mentions that you have to do that, or you'll lock yourself out
[22:44] <belgianguy> after he saves and logs out
[22:44] <escott> belgianguy, so log back in and change the permissions
[22:45] <chris_> atlef: don't be, thanks for trying
[22:45] <belgianguy> escott: I edited sshd_config per the tutorial, allowing only key match login
[22:45] <belgianguy> eg no password
[22:46] <chris_> There should be a single script that gets wireless devices working.  It wouldn't've thought it be that hard.
[22:46] <escott> belgianguy, well that was silly
[22:46] <atlef> chris_, what exactly went wrong?
[22:46] <belgianguy> escott: I find the tutorial silly for not mentioning it
[22:46] <belgianguy> escott: the good news is that this is my test setup
[22:46] <belgianguy> and that the server is upstairs
[22:46] <belgianguy> so I can "intervene" here
[22:47] <escott> belgianguy, you should always leave an active connection while you verify that the login method works
[22:47] <belgianguy> escott: good to know, just in another terminal?
[22:48] <escott> belgianguy, its like leaving someone inside the house while you check that the lock works
[22:49] <escott> belgianguy, do it for anything that has the potential to lock you out (like never mess with /etc/sudoers without first opening a sudo -i terminal to keep open)
[22:49] <escott> belgianguy, don't fiddle with your group membership unless you have a sudo -i terminal open. just keep your foot in the door while you play with the lock
[22:50] <malkauns> why do keyboard shortcuts not work at all in 12.10?
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: What DE?
[22:51] <malkauns> Unity
[22:51] <chris_> atlef: well I first started to install the ndis-wrapper following the instructions, but then at the end I find out that my specific broadcom isn't on the ndiswrapper list of supported devices, so that was a waste of time.    Then I followed these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access but when I restarted my machine, nothing was detected and there was nothing in the additional driv
[22:51] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: They should work. I'm running a fresh install. Did you accidentally change them in System Settings?
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: The installer does it's best to get wifi working.  THat's the "single script".  For outlying cards that don't work properly without special steps there isn't one consistent method that gets all of them working.
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Some brains required.
[22:52] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, nope, i too am running on a fresh install, i changed the window close shortkey to ctrl +` but it doesn't work
[22:53] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: You didn't say that. I thought you were referring to the Unity shorcuts.
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Broadcom isn't very linux friendly.  Because they're so common, developers have done a pretty good job of reverse-engineering them and have gotten many working - but Broadcom keeps breaking them.
[22:53] <belgianguy> escott: smart that, learned something important
[22:53] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: I just tried that and it works. You sure it was set?
[22:53] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, no, i meant keyboard shortcuts from the config that pops up when u search for "keyboard" in the unity launcher
[22:53] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: If you want to pretend that knowledge of something so esoteric as getting broadband drivers working constitutes "brains" then that's fine
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Also, Broadcom licenses their designs to other manufacturers who often implement them badly.
[22:54] <katsumeblisk> malkauns: I set the close window shortcut to Ctrl + ` and it worked.
[22:54] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, mm weird!! :(
[22:54] <malkauns> katsumeblisk, doesn't work at all for me
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: could you do an lspci -nn and get me the eight character PCI ID of the card?
[22:54] <sect0r> is there away to just restart x?
[22:54] <malkauns> any idea why anyone??
[22:54] <sect0r> join #metasploit
[22:54] <belgianguy> argh, changed the permissions to 700 but it still won't let me connect to the remote machine
[22:55] <belgianguy> Agent admitted failure to sign using the key
[22:55] <belgianguy> Permission denied (publickey)
[22:55] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: 14e4:4315
[22:56] <escott> belgianguy, you must be the only person to be able to modify files and folders from auth_keys up to the first root owned directory
[22:56] <escott> belgianguy, so that includes auth_keys file, .ssh and ~
[22:57] <belgianguy> escott: not sure here, do I need to execute additional chmod commands? :/
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Hm.  Should work with the ssb or wl modules.
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Should not require ndiswrapper or dkms or even firmware.
[22:58] <belgianguy> my file is called authorized_keys instead of auth_keys, does that matter?
[22:59] <escott> belgianguy, chmod g-w,o-w ~ ~/.ssh ~/.ssh/*
[22:59] <escott> belgianguy, its the long form of the name i just dont like typing that many characters
[22:59] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: it's strange how in Live CD mode the Additional Drivers dialogue appeared and knew about the broadcom, but now there is no sign of it.
[23:00] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: It's confirmed to work with Debian Stable, 2.6.26
[23:00] <belgianguy> escott: thanks, going to try that now :)
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> belgianguy: That is the correct name for the file.  Must be as expected by ssh/sshd.
[23:01] <chris_> jhutchins_wk: Debian 6?
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> chris_: Yes, you would expect it to just work.
[23:02] <ClientAlive> When generating ssh shared keys to connect two computers, do you have to do it on both computers for it to work? I had this set up on my old laptop but now need to set it up on this one.
[23:04] <escott> ClientAlive, there are a lot of keys involved in ssh what keys do you mean?
[23:06] <ClientAlive> escott: The way I had it set up before was so all I have to do to connect (in either direction) is type ssh <hostname>  (in the form of the text hostname you see on your command line).
[23:06] <away> ClientAlive, yes, both
[23:06] <away> just use ssh-copy-id on both machines and you should be good to go
[23:06] <escott> ClientAlive, if that is what you want then sure
[23:06] <ClientAlive> so do i have to delete the keys that are on the one computer so I can start fresh?
[23:07] <away> just use ssh-copy-id, it appends the new key(s) to the end of ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[23:07] <macswell> System kernel panics ~1-2 seconds after unplugging ac-power (switching to battery). Any ideas on how I may resolve this?
[23:07] <ClientAlive> or just edit some file to have the correct ip address to this computer?
[23:07] <belgianguy> jhutchins_wk: so what was the correct spelling?
[23:08] <escott> ClientAlive, you put the pub key on machines you want to access with a given identity. so A has id_rsa and is equal or higher security than B, C, D so you put the id_rsa.pub from A onto B,C,D to give A access to B,C,D
[23:08] <hierro59> join #ubuntostudio
[23:08] <root> boy23y
[23:08] <tsinnema> what should be my java setup if i want sound from java to work with pulseaudio?
[23:10] <ClientAlive> I see. So it sounds thus to me: Call computer A the computer with the existing keys and call computer B the new computer with no keys. Then simply put the existing files from computer A onto computer  B. Then generate keys on Computer A. Then move the newly created files from Computer A to computer B. Done.
[23:10] <ClientAlive> is that the correct algorithm?
[23:10] <escott> ClientAlive, no A already has keys, why would you generate keys on A if A already has keys
[23:11] <ClientAlive> perhaps I got the letters confused. Good greif to me!
[23:11] <escott> ClientAlive, A has an id_rsa so you can ssh-copy-id user@B to give A access to B
[23:11] <escott> ClientAlive, if you consider A and B to be the same level of security and should be compromised equally
[23:11] <escott> ClientAlive, then ssh-keygen on B, and ssh-copy-id user@A from B
[23:11] <Guest74674> boy23
[23:12] <ClientAlive> they both computers belong to me. I want to allow root access on both and have same level security on both. Just not familiar wtih this process.
[23:12] <ClientAlive> escott: yes, that makes sense. That's what I was trying to describe. thank you.
[23:13]  * washuu_de is away: Away
[23:14] <angel> hola
[23:15] <Tex_Nick> !es | angel
[23:16] <BLZbubba> how well does ubuntu handle booting over iscsi with a NIC BIOS (as opposed to a proper HBA)?
[23:16] <BLZbubba> centos is of course lame compare to ubuntu but they do have a nice iscsi boot option
[23:17] <escott> BLZbubba, it should not matter provided the bootloader supports it. you might check #grub
[23:17] <wingman182> I'm trying to attempt to install 12.10 to a blank machine without access to a thumb drive or a blank RW. I can pull the HDD and install what ever I need to it and then swap. Is it possible?
[23:19] <belgianguy> hmm, still no cigar
[23:19] <belgianguy> perhaps I need to name my keys file authorized_keys2 ?
[23:19] <Bon-chan> good alternative for dreamweaver under ubuntu?
[23:19] <wingman182> I tried doing it once using the windows installer, but the MBR was too screwed up to work in the new system
[23:20] <escott> belgianguy, that shouldn't matter. can you post your auth_keys file to paste.ubuntu.com as well as the output of ls -ld . .ssh; and ls -l .ssh
[23:20] <wingman182> is it possible to write a MBR of a secondary disk and make it think its primary? So that when it gets deployed to a new system, it boots straight from it?
[23:21] <belgianguy> escott: the server upstairs doesn't have a gui, is there a cli option to upload files to paste.ubuntu.com ?
[23:21] <zykotick9> !pastebinit | belgianguy
[23:21] <escott> wingman182, mbr references are local to the disk unless you are cross booting from with /boot on another disk
[23:22] <bsmith093> is quantal out yet of is it still beta?
[23:22] <wingman182> ok I'm assuming then that it didn't actually write anything to the MBR when I installed it, rather it changed the boot of the primary drive. How can I get it to install GRUB to the secondary?
[23:23] <k1l> bsmith093: 12.10 is released. raring 13.04 is in develoopment now
[23:23] <bsmith093> k thx upgradig from presice
[23:23] <belgianguy> escott: will you be around tomorrow? I have to be pretty silent as the rest of the family is asleep here :/
[23:24] <escott> belgianguy, probably not
[23:25] <elfranne> after wake up from sleep the left click is dead any idea how to restart the mouse module ?
[23:26] <belgianguy> escott: okay, thanks for the help, still :)
[23:27] <Furai> I'm now following this guide to get full gnome 3 on my desktop. Is it any good? http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[23:27] <wingman182> maybe if I rephrase things...... I want to install unbuntu to a different system taking advantage of a hotswap drive bay on my windows machine. Install Ubuntu to the drive, and then place it in the new system. Any suggestions?
[23:27] <belgianguy> I guess I'll roll back my changes in the morning and go hunt for a better tutorial, and will initialize communications with the original poster, notifying him of the fact that he has the intellect of a fruit fly
[23:28] <escott> wingman182, it should work fine
[23:28] <wingman182> it does until I put it into the new machine
[23:28] <wingman182> but it doesn't boot
[23:28] <belgianguy> also, my keyboard upstairs is noisy, and doesn't even react if you don't ram the keys
[23:28] <Tex_Nick> wingman182 : have you looked at ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[23:29] <wingman182> thats precisely what I used to install it the first time
[23:29] <wingman182> but switching it to the new system and it will not boot
[23:31] <escott> wingman182, look at the bootinfoscript it should tell you what you need to know
[23:32] <arndale> When I installed ubuntu I chose not to install the 3rd party media additions because I had no net access.  Is there a way to do it now that I have net access?
[23:32] <wingman182> escott ok thanks I'll check that out
[23:33] <Sna4x8> Is there an ubuntu client for OpenVPN Connect?  I use standard OpenVPN all the time, but I can't find a client for OpenVPN connect online or in the repos.
[23:33] <_helios_> Hey can anyone here help me with a Connection timed out issue with SSH,  Everything is configured properly on the server side I think the client side has an early timeout or something.
[23:34] <macswell> System kernel panics ~1-2 seconds after unplugging ac-power (switching to battery). Any ideas on how I may resolve this? [Running Ubuntu 12.04 x64]
[23:35] <dns53> _helios_ it times out after a while? if you are using something like putty you should set an option to send keep alive packets
[23:36] <_helios_> dns53: what is happening is when I ssh user@address it says Connection Timed out,  however when I was where the machine is located everything worked fine.
[23:36] <esph> Which directories would it be adviseable to put under my 24GB mSATA SSD, and which on my HDD?
[23:36] <_helios_> dns53: I don't think the client is giving the server enough time to respond.
[23:37] <esph> (/home will obviously go on the HDD)
[23:37] <chaz68> Anybody running Ajaxplorer here?
[23:38] <chaz68> On Ubuntu 12.04 desktop system...
[23:38] <_helios_> dns53: is there anything I can do with the client side so that it doesn't time out?  Otherwise I have to wait until I get home to change the ssh server config.
[23:38] <escott> esph, depends on what your goals are
[23:38] <daywalker2012> hi
[23:39] <Uber_Geek> ello
[23:39] <esph> escott: basically just to utilize teh faster storage as much as possible
[23:39] <esph> the*
[23:39] <daywalker2012> i`ve got a problem - should is use openjdk 6 or 7?
[23:39] <escott> esph, then limit your total data usage to less than 24GB
[23:40] <daywalker2012> with xubuntu 12.04 - on an old computer :)
[23:41] <dns53> _helios_ timing out connecting probably means that it is not open, have you tried running nmap to confirm that the port you are using for ssh is open?
[23:41] <_helios_> dns53: I think the problem might be that my system went into standby at the house forgot to change the settings.
[23:42] <esph> gotta love the ever-snarky denizens of irc-land
[23:42] <dns53> _helios_ that is highly likely
[23:42] <_helios_> dns53: how would i run nmap on a remote host?
[23:43] <escott> esph, you are going to have to prioritize and to prioritize you need to state meaningful goals
[23:44] <escott> esph, do you want a faster boot? do you have a favorite game you want to open faster? do you want your sql server to be faster?
[23:44] <esph> escott: If you can give me some examples of meaningful goals, that would help. All I basically know is that the SSD is faster, and that putting some things there will improve performance
[23:45] <randypopabawa> Hey all. Anyone else tried loading Ubuntu on a Samsung NP35 series?
[23:45] <daywalker2012> hmm
[23:46] <esph> escott: Ok, well, most programs are in /usr, right? So I'll put that there. What kind of performance gains would I see if i put /etc there, or /var there?
[23:46] <daywalker2012> ok  - thx for help :(
[23:46] <randypopabawa> I've heard mixed reviews about AMD-A6's and Linux is why I ask.
[23:46] <escott> esph, programs may start faster
[23:47] <daywalker2012> i can  `t reach the ww seites in this way
[23:47] <escott> esph, also having /usr on a different disk is not a support configuration
[23:47] <escott> esph, you can have / on a disk or /usr/share/games for instance but not /usr in general
[23:47] <escott> esph, if you "ldd /sbin | grep usr" you will see that there are binaries in sbin that will break without /us
[23:48] <esph> escott: but /ect and /var can be on a different disk?
[23:48] <esph> etc*
[23:48] <escott> esph, /etc has to be on the same disk as / otherwise you cant find /etc/fstab
[23:48] <esph> ok
[23:48] <escott> esph, /var can be on a different disk
[23:48] <esph> just /var
[23:48] <esph> So I'll put / on the SSD, and possibly /var
[23:49] <esph> what goes in /var (besides logs)
[23:49] <escott> esph, /var, /home, /opt are the most common directories to find on other partitions
[23:49] <escott> esph, lots and mail spools and other stuff that changes a lot. i think "var" means "varies"
[23:49] <esph> ok
[23:50] <Tex_Nick> randypopabawa : i'm running 12.10 on an AMD A6-3500 APU ... it's a custom built box though ... no problems here
[23:50] <escott> esph, so putting that on an SSD will make some of those applications faster but will burn out the SSD faster
[23:50] <esph> right
[23:50] <escott> esph, depends on if those are performance sensitive to you or not
[23:50] <esph> opt also has binaries, right?
[23:50] <randypopabawa> Hm.
[23:50] <escott> esph, opt is usually empty
[23:50] <esph> oh
[23:50] <randypopabawa> I want to spec my new laptop as an audio production workstation.
[23:51] <escott> esph, anyways i have to run but figure out what programs you want to be faster first and let that guide your decision
[23:51] <esph> escott: ok, thanks
[23:51] <kaiblocks> I feel like an idiot
[23:51] <kaiblocks> I deleted my apt lock and not sure how to fix that
[23:52] <escott> !aptlock
[23:52] <pcfreak30> can anyone help out
[23:52] <kaiblocks> yeah, that's what happened. But instead of doing that I removed the lock.
[23:53] <_helios_> dns53: I did the nmap and it shows that 22/tcp filtered ssh
[23:53] <danielboston26> i updated ubuntu 12.10 now when i log back in the desktop is a blank screen
[23:53] <pcfreak30> i just got a keyboard replacement
[23:53] <danielboston26> and when i open a program it launches but nothing shows
[23:53] <danielboston26> any idea's?
[23:53] <pcfreak30> and the whole layout is out of wack
[23:54] <pcfreak30> im on acessibility keyboard atm
[23:54] <pcfreak30> us keyboard layout
[23:54] <dns53> _helios_ so you would have your adsl router open and forwarding to a computer that is not on
[23:55] <_helios_> dns53: k thanks man,  I can't believe I forgot to keep it from going idle.
[23:55] <danielboston26> can someone help me?
[23:55] <pcfreak30> any way to reconfigure the keyboard input?
[23:55] <danielboston26> i updated ubuntu 12.10 now when i log back in the desktop is a blank screen
[23:55] <danielboston26> and when i open a program it launches but nothing shows
[23:56] <pcfreak30> its hell totype like this
[23:57] <kaiblocks> what if the ubotto advice doesn't work?
[23:57] <danielboston26> i need help please
[23:57] <earspliT_> clear
[23:58] <kaiblocks> strange
[23:59] <danielboston26> can anyone help me or no?
[23:59] <kaiblocks> When I use the command sudo dpkg --configure -a, I get an error regarding failure to set up qmail. I was messing around and trying to install rn and had some system difficulties in the process.
[23:59] <danielboston26> I'm gonna take that non response as a no