=== marc_ is now known as Guest48651 === pete_ is now known as Guest52606 === nb__ is now known as Guest65539 === Guest65539 is now known as nbhat === nbhat is now known as Nbhat === EagleScreen is now known as Guest68724 === rafael is now known as Guest18012 [04:23] hey techdude === pete_ is now known as Guest70337 === ubuntu is now known as Guest54945 === vivid1 is now known as vivid [07:23] i need help with software updates not able to download from getdeb [07:27] am i in the wrong channel , can someone help me please [07:28] Eroskzn: Well getdeb is a third party repo, so [07:29] sorry i'm new to this [07:29] where must i check or ask for help [08:02] Just how different is Kubuntu from Ubuntu? [08:02] ubuntu uses unity, kubuntu uses kde [08:03] kde is the logical system while unity is marketed towards apple fanatics and other fashionable consumers [08:03] Well [08:04] I dislike the move from Gnome [08:04] and the last time I was ingrained in the environment it used Gnome [08:04] gnome was very good before they moved to gnome shell [08:04] I like the windows-type UI Kubuntu appears to use, I'm concerned with compatability with some ubuntu apps [08:05] Im very.. uninitiated.. well not so much, but enough to have to ask questions [08:05] there is a kde "version" for every ubuntu program [08:05] or kde program for gtk program i should say [08:05] so i suggest always install kde variant [08:05] And I think there are ways to install a gtk program, as long as you have the dependancies met right? [08:06] You can run gtk programs in a kde environment. I think. [08:06] Without having a GTK desktop [08:06] Is this correct? [08:06] yes you can install them fine but they might look worse because they dont match the theme and they dont integrate to system tray etc aswell as qt (kde) programs [08:07] Oh, Kde programs are all build with Qt? [08:07] yes [08:07] I dont mind [08:07] just as long as I can still use the programs [08:07] Depends on how you have them installed. I don't know if any post-install modifications are made by distros to improve the look and feel of GTK apps [08:07] as far as I know using (K)ubuntu [08:07] it's pretty smooth sailing for me [08:08] Yea, I'll try it out then [08:08] Thanks for your opinions. [08:08] senjai which gtk programs do u mean specifically? im sure we can find u kde replacement [08:08] Music player, starts with C [08:08] that I'm worried about [08:08] though I think I customized my build a lot [08:08] Clementine? [08:08] Streams radio from lasst.fm and such [08:08] clementine? [08:08] Clementine [08:08] yea [08:08] clementine is kde :D [08:08] Mind slow tonight. [08:08] and i use it [08:08] I think it's originally built in Qt [08:08] its wonderful [08:08] so KDE should be able to display it well [08:08] Sorry for asking the silly questions then [08:08] lol [08:09] np :P [08:09] somehow it doesn't work on mine, but I might need to look back at why I can't [08:09] because sometimes these problems can be very specific per person... [08:09] amarok is fine for me but might be a tad too heavy :P [08:09] hence why I depend on audacious a lot [08:09] flamereaper how come clementine doesnt work?? [08:09] Aknot: on mine? [08:10] I can't remember [08:10] what error it threw out on the terminal last time I tried [08:10] did u try reinstall? [08:10] I did, but that didn't seem to help [08:10] well it was quite sometime ago and I'm currently settling on Amarok and/or Audacious for music players [08:10] try minirok, its amarok without all the crap [08:10] Tried, but somehow I didn't like it :P [08:10] okok [08:11] Virtual box kicked me off :/ === Senjai_ is now known as Senjai [08:11] Aknot: guess can't really persuade someone who's comfortable with what they have even though there are better options eh :P [08:11] true true [08:11] Last question, is there any downside to installing via Wubi [08:12] just a tad bit slower of a system, from my personal trials. [08:12] ive never tried wubi [08:12] why not just do proper install? [08:12] tried and despaired when there's a new distro release [08:12] i mean if u like kde that is [08:12] and the migration from Wubi to a full partition is quite a work out [08:12] Yea [08:13] Thats my proble FlameReaper-PC [08:13] Im uninstalling the wubi [08:13] because its slow as crap [08:13] I had Ubuntu 12.04 [08:13] Senjai: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [08:13] senjai just do proper kubuntu install :D [08:13] cleared it to install kbuntu 12.10 [08:13] Ugh, gotta find a usb drive [08:13] or an old ipod.. [08:13] Senjai: Here's a tip - back-up your home folder [08:13] Why? [08:13] and when you do a partition install [08:14] just unload them into the new home folder [08:14] yea, i wanted fresh of fresh of fresh though. Make sure none of the old issues come over. [08:14] I have all my important stuff backed up into windows [08:14] Via mount -t ntfs... etc [08:14] because most apps you use will have their configurations kept into that home folder [08:14] Oh thats fine, [08:14] well it's fine if you want a fresh restart though [08:14] I'd like to start fresh [08:15] I think I might consider that [08:15] Fresh start? [08:15] and keep only documents produced from the old partition [08:15] Senjai: Yes [08:15] I only kept files [08:15] configurations can hurt you, in my experience [08:15] Yes [08:15] especially if your current install can't mirror the previous ones [08:16] it wont [08:16] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Wubi) --> Kubuntu 12.10 (partitioned) [08:16] It would be.. iffy [08:16] yea [08:16] then having to go through and purge one by one as issues arise would be.. annoying [08:16] lol [08:16] well it won't hurt to keep some specific configs though [08:16] Are the repos the same as ubuntus [08:16] it is [08:17] i always do fresh install [08:17] most hassle free [08:17] well kubuntu is basically a KDE Ubuntu [08:17] so things are as simple as that [08:17] its just a matter of DEs [08:18] right, I guess I'll want to try a cross compilation now [08:18] hello world [08:18] good morning :D [08:18] hello ovidiu-florin and good... afternoon :D [08:19] what's the discution topic ? [08:19] :D [08:20] My noobiness [08:20] Not even sure how much i remember about linux operation [08:20] gotta learn bash and the file system all over again [08:21] Senjai: have you tried using windows? [08:21] ovidiu-florin, sorry? [08:21] (^ not a recommendation ) [08:22] I thought you might have used windows or something, that being the cause you forgot these [08:22] I use windows now. [08:22] I was a hobbiest programmer some years back [08:22] but its been a while [08:22] Had to use windows for school, and work [08:23] I use everything that I can get my hands on, either by handover or self-obtaining [08:24] so far my life with usage has been revolving around Windows and (K)Ubuntu, with a little bit of Mac [08:24] as a user, I must say, I really like working with Ubuntu a lot [08:24] I've managed to switch completly to kubuntu [08:25] haven't used windows in more than 5 years [08:25] Windows for a lot of things is a given, but some specific tasks I can only do in (K)Ubuntu because... it's hell of a lot easy :P [08:25] I use it a little bit now for cross compiling [08:25] I will never ever use a mac [08:25] but nothing more [08:25] ovidiu-florin, you obviously dont work in finance [08:25] ll [08:26] lol [08:26] I'm about to attempt a cross-compile of the gimp-painters [08:26] of the 2.7 alpha branch [08:26] I work in stock marchet [08:26] Senjai: ^ [08:26] really? Where [08:26] What do you do [08:26] Romania [08:27] right now implementing the FIX protocol with Qt [08:27] via the QuickFix engine with a custom framework on top [08:28] What exchange do you work with in Romania? [08:28] I know nothing about that country [08:28] lol [08:29] we have a relationship with a company in chicago [08:30] kind of partners [08:31] just asked simmilar on #kde, how would kubuntu perform on a tablet? [08:31] or touch screen ultrabook? [08:32] doesnt kde have some "mode" made for tablets and touchscreen [08:32] yes it does [08:32] but Kubuntu should also have Plasma Notebook [08:33] from what someone from #kde told me [08:33] how do I activate/use that? [08:33] also has* [08:36] system settings -> workspace behavior -> workspace [08:40] away: whooooaaaa [08:45] pacino === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [08:53] oh boy http://i.imgur.com/QJE2D1Q.png :( [08:53] 6 hours for upgrade to 13.04 [09:03] did 13.04 come out already? [09:03] 13.04 stands for April, 2013. [09:05] lol i never realised that they were dates :D [09:10] Aknot: I think it came out allready, or atleast a beta or something [09:11] one of the ubuntu devs said that ubuntu might become rolling release after 14.04 [09:13]

but Kubuntu should also have Plasma Notebook [09:13] you mean plasma-netbook [09:14] just sudo apt-get plasma-netbook. can't remember what's the package name in apt [09:14] but I think it's that [09:15] FlameReaper-PC: what are you answering to? [09:15] ovidiu-florin: about your question about the Plasma Notebook (Netbook actually) UI [09:15] away told me how to activate it, and I did [09:15] my reaction was whoooooaaaa [09:15] I really think that with touchscreen keyboard integration [09:16] and a few tweaks to it [09:16] it's allready installed by default [09:16] it can really be used for a touchscreen environment [09:16] I hope so [09:16] I really liked that, though I'm defaulting to the desktop appearance [09:16] rather than netbook [09:16] using the netbook UI was fun though [09:17] wow, my college's connection when trying to use git is pretty horrible [09:17] guess downloading movies is all that my college's network is good for :P [09:18] I plan to purchase a windows 8 tabled [09:18] erase windows 8 [09:18] and put kubuntu on it [09:18] opinions? [09:18] I don't know how it works though for Win8 [09:18] best get an x86 tab [09:18] because if you get an ARM tab [09:18] intel atom? [09:18] yes [09:19] also with a Win8 tab [09:19] I'd like to anticipate that the process of wiping Win8 out of it isn't as easy as we'd like to think [09:20] not necessarily this one but something like it: http://www.emag.ro/tableta-asus-memo-cu-procesor-intel-174-atom-dual-core-z2760-1-6ghz-10-1-2gb-ddr2-64gb-wi-fi-bluetooth-4-0-microsoft-windows-8-white-me400c-1a013w/pd/E1LMNBBBM/?ref=nl&zone=box_43&unit=0.5&id=1027&emag_click_id=07ff0c8f621a6293c61e5614167950f0&ref=afs [09:20] I had some small tearing on videos and on youtube videos. So i uninstalled ati fglrx drivers to see if its because of that. Now when i move windows they are extremely laggy and i still have tearing [09:20] if its anything like Acer's Iconia w700/w701 tabs then I guess the difficulties is as hard as installing (K)Ubuntu on a regular netbook [09:21] ovidiu-florin: that looks good, and doesn't seem to have any possible difficulties you might have when trying to install [09:21] but I suppose you might want to do some self-study whether you can even try booting a live USB/SD card session on it [09:22] it's like a netbook without a keyboard and with touchscreen [09:46] hi [09:48] can any one please help me to resolve an issue with packages? I am not able to install any thing by apt-get command in kubuntu 12.04 LTS. I am getting error as : "E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." [09:52] mahesh_: You have broken packages to fix this run: "sudo apt-get -f install" from a terminal if this doesn't work see the first answer from this thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141370/how-to-fix-a-broken-package-when-apt-get-install-f-does-not-work [09:56] @ : Thanks === casso_ is now known as casso [10:10] I messed up my login screen, I deleted a theme and did not set a new one... now I can't log in. [10:11] I get this message Can not open /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/steampunk [10:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585157/ [10:13] I am getting this error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585157/ can ny one help me out in this? [10:14] mahesh_: Have you tried what I told you? [10:18] Hello [10:18] I messed up my login screen, I deleted a theme and did not set a new one... now I can't log in. Anyone have an idea [10:18] I get this message Can not open /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/steampunk [10:19] I get the following message when opening a pdf file: okular: cannot connect to X server [10:19] : I follow your path but not able to find out the exact command, here in my case what should replace " path-to-the-deb-file" [10:19] robtygart: This page might have some ideas that coukd help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/517803 [10:19] Ubuntu bug 517803 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm fails to start: "/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ethais cannot be opened"" [High,Fix released] [10:19] in want to install gedit [10:19] elliria: Thanks [10:20] robtygart: I hope it works. :) [10:21] mahesh_: Ah my error, seems that was the wrong page. Did you update your package list prior to installing gedit? [10:22] yep [10:22] how can I enter recovery mode? [10:22] I can't login [10:22] or even see the login screen [10:23] mahesh_: Try sudo dpkg --configure -a [10:23] ok [10:23] robtygart: If you hold shift during grub you can select te recovery mode, it is probably under Advanced Options. [10:23] no grub [10:24] I only have one partition [10:24] robtygart: You do have grub, even if you have 1 partition. [10:25] !grub [10:25] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [10:25] : I just tried it and found below [10:25] Errors were encountered while processing: [10:25] libwvstreams4.6-extras [10:25] wvdial [10:25] libuniconf4.6 [10:25] gnome-ppp [10:25] mahesh_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:25] Oh ok [10:26] please have a look : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585269/ [10:26] mahesh_: Have you tried installing the dependencies manually? [10:26] yep [10:26] Package: libwvstreams4.6-extras [10:26] Error: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [10:26] Package: libuniconf4.6 [10:26] Error: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [10:26] Package: wvdial [10:27] lordievader: did not work [10:27] robtygart: Unless something has changed since I last had my hands on a real computer, you should be able to hit the Esc key over and iver during boot to bring up the GRUB menu. [10:27] shift [10:27] robtygart: Btw what happens when you get to your failed login screen and press ctrl+alt+F1? [10:28] over and over, sorry for the typo. [10:28] lordievader: nothing [10:29] Its asking for a login screen it does not have [10:29] I have SSH access [10:29] mahesh_: It seems to me that all of those packages depend on wvdial, and that one depends on libwvstrams4.6-extras... but that one also complains about something,.. [10:29] But I can't add any folders [10:30] robtygart: Hmm if you cannot get to a tty then the recovery mode is the only option... I could have sworn it was shift during boot to get to the grub menu. === pete_ is now known as Guest5508 [10:30] Where to I press it att [10:30] at* [10:31] What screen [10:31] Last I tried, it was Esc. [10:31] robtygart: After the bios. Simply hold it and see if you get the grub menu. [10:31] elliria: Could be both ;) [10:31] nothing [10:31] Trying again [10:31] robtygart: I press it again and again until it works. :) [10:32] got it [10:32] robtygart: Great boot into the recovery mode, probably under Advanced Options. [10:33] lordievader: Possibly. (: I haven't been able to play with Kubuntu in half a year. [10:33] What option? [10:33] !recovery [10:33] To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system" [10:34] Hmm, that is not what I wanted. [10:34] lordievader: I am on the recovery menu, [10:34] resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub....... [10:34] robtygart: elliria gave you a link some time ago, follow that I suppose. [10:36] I don't understand what part of his link I am to look at? [10:36] It has some suggestions - the best appeared to be a way of booting with no theme at all. I get the impression from your error message that Kubuntu still thinks there's a theme. [10:36] <--- girl (: [10:37] robtygart: If the kdm config file can be found it can be adjusted to a existing theme, however I have no idea where kdm keeps its config files... [10:38] This was the part I figured could work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/517803/comments/10 [10:38] Ubuntu bug 517803 in kdebase-workspace (Ubuntu) "kdm fails to start: "/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/themes/ethais cannot be opened"" [High,Fix released] [10:45] lordievader: I fixed it [10:46] Puppy Linux ROCKS!!!! [10:46] I loaded puppy Linux and renamed a file. === aaron is now known as Guest99270 [10:47] robtygart: Good thinking! (: [10:47] You know you could've done the same from the recovery mode ;) [10:47] But it's a good alternative :) [10:48] : I was disconnected. Can you please help me? [10:48] lordievader: yah but I could not figure out how [10:49] its 3AM its too late. [10:49] robtygart: Ah, that explains it :P [10:50] mahesh_: A conclusion I made earlier: It seems to me that all of those packages depend on wvdial, and that one depends on libwvstrams4.6-extras... but that one also complains about something,.. [10:50] mahesh_: What comes to mind it that they might be in a repo that is not by default enabled. [10:51] ok, so what will be the solution on this? [10:51] I am nopt able to install any thing due to this... [10:52] mahesh_: Can you pastebin the file: /etc/apt/sources.list ? === durden is now known as Durden [10:54] : Do I need to run it in terminal? === Durden is now known as Durden_nq [10:54] mahesh_: Yes copy the output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin. [10:55] ok [10:55] done [10:56] mahesh_: Could you send me the link ;) [10:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585473/ [10:56] here it is [10:57] Did mahesh_ try sudo apt-get install -f [10:57] : Already tried mate but not wroking :( [10:58] mahesh_: Doesn't seem like there is a repo missing/deactivated. [10:58] Darn. [10:58] elliria: Uhu... [10:58] ok.. [10:58] mahesh_: Try "sudo dpkg -r gedit; sudo apt-get -f install" [10:59] ok [10:59] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [11:00] Do you want me to provide full screen print? [11:00] mahesh_: Yes please. [11:00] ok [11:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585503/ [11:04] mahesh_: Does it give the message "no installed package" for: "sudo dpkg -r libwvstreams4.6-extras libwvstreams4.6-extras wvdial gnome-ppp" [11:05] I think this one worked [11:06] mahesh_: Now what happens when you run sudo apt-get install -f, it should not do anything... === durden is now known as kobolt_qa [11:06] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585539/ [11:06] plese have alook [11:07] Is it worked? [11:07] mahesh_: Looks good, run the "sudo apt-get -f install" again, should not do anything... [11:08] ok [11:09] just tried : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585554/ [11:09] : Looks like it is fixing now [11:09] ;) [11:09] mahesh_: Well it installed the package. Be sure to update before installing gedit again. [11:10] sudo apt-get update [11:10] right? [11:10] sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [11:11] ok [11:14] it is asking me to press Y or N : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585584/ [11:14] Do I suppose to proceed? with Y [11:15] mahesh_: There is a kernel update in it, ever had trouble updating your kernel? If not you can procede. [11:15] ok... [11:15] it is running now [11:16] : I think this is fix now, all credit goes to you. I really appreciate your help! [11:17] mahesh_: No problem, glad I could be of service. [11:17] I would like to keep in touch with you, do you have FB account so that I can be in touch with you? [11:17] mahesh_: I'm usually on here. [11:18] mahesh_: I'm also on #kubuntu-offtopic for offtopic topics. [11:18] with same alias? [11:18] mahesh_: Yes. [11:18] ok [11:19] you are from ? [11:19] !OT [11:19] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [11:20] I am not getting it? !OT? [11:20] mahesh_: Joint the offtopic channel for those kind of conversations ;) [11:20] ok, sure. [11:20] Anyways thanks again === FabianB is now known as Guest15435 === pete_ is now known as Guest75700 [12:56] * wakeup is using a ZTE-BLADE running Android 2.3.5 (GRJ22) [12:56] * wakeup is using a ZTE-BLADE running Android 2.3.5 (GRJ22) [12:57] http://i.imgur.com/ohz7ox2.png look at the top right corner, the maximize/minimize/exit buttons have an awkward spacing [12:57] why is that, and how can I fix it? [12:57] this happens in every application, not only dolphin [13:09] away: You can edit window decorations [13:09] yeah, I just found the option [13:09] thanks though [13:09] away: ok :) === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest71366 [13:13] Hi all === paolo is now known as faLUCE === ed__ is now known as ed346765 [13:25] people, I planning a ssd upgrade (probably samsung pro 840) for my laptop, is there anything I need to know, any problems or issues, I probably do a fresh install of kubuntu + multiboot of win7, any thoughts on this? thanks [13:35] ed346765: Research how you can decrease the number of read/writes to the disk. [13:40] lordievade: isnt that the feature of the drive (all new drives?) === FabianB is now known as Guest78576 [13:42] ed346765: Drive might cache, but still the OS decides how many times it will read/write to disk. === Guest78576 is now known as Bomb3rman === Bomb3rman is now known as FabianBu [13:46] İ just upgraded my kde veersion to 4.9.8 rc2 but now it shows the kickoff menu transparent [13:46] İ mean the first line [13:46] I created a bug report on ppa bugs on launvhpad [13:47] Has anyone experienced this? [13:47] This makes text unreadable [13:56] wakeup: could you show a screen capture? [14:00]