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| pitti | Good morning | 04:34 |
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| BigWhale | Good Morning all. | 08:52 |
| BigWhale | Who do I bug about pygobject? :) | 08:53 |
| BigWhale | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692515 | 08:53 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Differentiate Python created GType enum names to avoid registration problems" [Normal,New] | 08:53 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, hey, you want to talk to pitti, he's the gobject master ;-) | 08:56 |
| seb128 | gobject->pygobject | 08:57 |
| BigWhale | pitti, open hailing frequencies! :)) | 08:57 |
| pitti | hey BigWhale, ça va? | 08:58 |
| BigWhale | pitti, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692515 | 08:59 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Differentiate Python created GType enum names to avoid registration problems" [Normal,New] | 08:59 |
| BigWhale | pitti, right now gstreamer in python is broken in Raring. | 08:59 |
| pitti | BigWhale: J'ai vu ce bug, mais je n'ai pas le temps cette semaine | 08:59 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, do you speak french? ;-) | 09:00 |
| pitti | BigWhale: it was fixed upstream in gstreamer, wasn't it? if that blocks you, please feel free to backport this? | 09:00 |
| pitti | BigWhale: oh, sorry! somehow I misremembered you being French | 09:00 |
| BigWhale | ... :> | 09:01 |
| BigWhale | unfortunately no... :) | 09:01 |
| pitti | BigWhale: it's seb128's fault | 09:02 |
| BigWhale | pitti, there will be no updates from upstream to Raring? This isn't blocking just me, but everyone. | 09:02 |
| pitti | BigWhale: since he became tech lead, it's the official desktop team language | 09:02 |
| pitti | BigWhale: oh, I'm fairly sure there will be another upstream release in time for raring | 09:03 |
| pitti | BigWhale: there will surely be one for pygobject, and I'll deal with this next week after the sprint | 09:03 |
| BigWhale | pitti, ok, cool. This, looks quite serious to me (unless I'm the only one using gstreamer in python). :) | 09:05 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, you are the only one using gstreamer in python... | 09:07 |
| seb128 | or one of the few ones | 09:07 |
| BigWhale | seb128, makes sense ... I'm usually stuck with: 'nobody did this before' ... :)) | 09:07 |
| seb128 | BigWhale, if you can find the commit in gstreamer that fixes it we can backport it | 09:07 |
| pitti | seb128: well, once sessioninstaller finally gets ported away from sessioninstaller he won't be any more :) | 09:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, sessioninstaller porterd away from itself, isn't that going to loop? :p | 09:08 |
| pitti | BigWhale, seb128: I think it's http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/commit/?id=d2b03a45371900e3100209b5fa4d3412b23aef94 | 09:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 09:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, ^ is there any chance you could look at that and see if it fixes https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692515 (I see that you commented on the bug)? ;-) | 09:10 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Differentiate Python created GType enum names to avoid registration problems" [Normal,New] | 09:10 |
| Laney | morning ;-) | 09:10 |
| BigWhale | pitti, seb128 there was a reference to some other bug that supposedly fixed this ... | 09:17 |
| BigWhale | Oh, pitti found it .. | 09:18 |
| Laney | I got it | 09:18 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, how are you? | 09:19 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning evryone | 09:19 |
| Laney | good thanks! | 09:19 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, Laney | 09:19 |
| Laney | hey chrisccoulson | 09:20 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? | 09:20 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, good thanks. just eating some toast :) | 09:20 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you> | 09:20 |
| chrisccoulson | ? | 09:20 |
| seb128 | I'm good thanks | 09:20 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, toast with eggs and beans? aka english breakfast? ;-) | 09:21 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, i wish :) | 09:21 |
| chrisccoulson | toast with honey | 09:21 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i'd prefer the eggs (and bacon, and sausage, and hash browns) | 09:21 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, i really need to get a new bulb for my desk lamp. it's too dark in here | 09:24 |
| chrisccoulson | especially now the weather has turned grey and miserable again | 09:24 |
| BigWhale | Stop talking about food! I'm up since 4am and had no breakfast yet ... :> | 09:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hah, 4am is the time i went to bed ;) | 09:41 |
| Laney | yeah that patch seems to make kazam able to record screencasts again | 09:44 |
| Laney | I can't watch them back using totem for some reason though, and the colours are messed up in vlc | 09:45 |
| lufie | hi, es sieht so aus als hätte ich meinen ubuntu desktop getötet, mit dem versuch gnome 3.7 und gtk+3 zu installieren. | 09:46 |
| lufie | hat jemand eine idee wie ich das wieder hinbekomme ? | 09:46 |
| Laney | h264/mp4 works best | 09:46 |
| lufie | sry ;-) english again | 09:47 |
| lufie | it seems, that i have killed my ubuntu 12.10 desktop whit an gnome 3.7 installation and a gtk+3 / libgtk-3 | 09:48 |
| lufie | any idea how i can restore this to default ? | 09:49 |
| lufie | currently i've got some gtk errors when i start some programms | 09:50 |
| BigWhale | Laney, well, I'll take care about reproduction later... and check if anything is wrong with recording in that matter. | 10:03 |
| Laney | righto. I uploaded the fix anyways so you should get it down the tubes in due course | 10:04 |
| BigWhale | Great! Thanks! | 10:07 |
| BigWhale | The amount of beers I'll have to buy to various at UDS people is quickly rising ... | 10:08 |
| BigWhale | :)) | 10:08 |
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| seb128 | Laney, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-onscreen-keyboard-review btw ;-) | 12:38 |
| Laney | seb128: heh, I just looked at ones linked from the topic :P | 12:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, I dropped the workitem on the other spec and reassigned the one on this one to you | 12:39 |
| Laney | ok then | 12:39 |
| seb128 | Laney, I've added it to the topic spec depends so it will show up there, sorry about that | 12:40 |
| Laney | oh I see, that's how they work | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | Laney, lovely ! maliit !! | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | even though onboard really really improved since UDS | 12:45 |
| seb128 | yeah, onboard upstream is doing a great job | 12:45 |
| seb128 | shame it's written in python | 12:45 |
| ogra_ | well, you dont really notice the python anymore speed wise | 12:45 |
| Laney | I'd still use onboard for now ;-) | 12:46 |
| Laney | no arrows/modifier keys in maliit | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | ugh | 12:46 |
| Laney | I do seem to be a bit more accurate / faster in it though | 12:48 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey, looking to team workitems, wdyt about postponing overlay scrollbars and evo importer from your WIs? | 12:48 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, sure, i don't have a problem with that | 12:49 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, done! ;-) | 12:49 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 12:49 |
| seb128 | yw ;-) | 12:50 |
| seb128 | bah, dist-upgrade on my nexus "bricked" it | 12:57 |
| seb128 | e.g I get a blank screen instead of X | 12:57 |
| ogra_ | seb128, upgraded from what ? quantal ? | 12:59 |
| seb128 | raring 2 weeks old to raring | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | i didnt have any issues with yesterdays upgrade | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | let me try | 12:59 |
| * ogra_ twiddles thumbs waiting for apt-get update ... | 13:00 | |
| ogra_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585822/ | 13:01 |
| * ogra_ hits yes | 13:01 | |
| seb128 | ogra_, my Xorg.0.log has lines like "[ 50.919] (WW) TEGRA(0): LVDS-1: Error querying display modes: No such device." | 13:05 |
| ogra_ | normal | 13:05 |
| seb128 | ok | 13:05 |
| seb128 | well the system is running | 13:05 |
| seb128 | I can ssh to it | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | weird | 13:06 |
| seb128 | it's connected to the network | 13:06 |
| seb128 | I just have nothing rendered on screen | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | we changed the screen rotation defaults | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | but that shouldnt affect the display, only the input until the new kernel is in | 13:06 |
| * ogra_ reboots, lets see | 13:07 | |
| ogra_ | seb128, no issues here but i'm using the new kernel already ... though that only has a dropped patch in the touchscreen code | 13:08 |
| ogra_ | shouldnt affect the display at all | 13:08 |
| * ogra_ tries something | 13:09 | |
| ogra_ | hmm, no, i thought it could be the rotated console clashing with X un-rotated, but that starts fine here as well | 13:11 |
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| ogra_ | sebi cant reproduce it :/ | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | oh, he is gone | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | seb128, can't reproduce it here :/ | 13:18 |
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| seb128 | ogra_, sorry, I was talking to dholbach, need to restart my session and I will keep looking into that | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | seb128, ok, my system surely isnt ,much default anymore atm since everyone gives me fixes to test, but i cant really reproduce it | 13:38 |
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| seb128 | ogra_, that's the xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585925/ | 13:51 |
| seb128 | ogra_, is there any way to boot the previous kernel? | 13:51 |
| seb128 | ogra_, sorry, I rebooted the wrong device, meant to reboot the nexus... | 14:00 |
| seb128 | ogra_, did you see my question about booting old kernel? | 14:00 |
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| jbicha | cyphermox: I was looking at eds and the remaining diff we have with Debian is the symbolic functions filtering & having libeds depend on eds-common, should those be forwarded to Debian? | 16:10 |
| cyphermox | symbolic functions filtering? | 16:11 |
| cyphermox | I'm going to tentatively say yes | 16:11 |
| jbicha | it's in debian/rules | 16:12 |
| jbicha | it compiles fine without so I wasn't sure what it was for | 16:12 |
| seb128 | hey everybody | 16:30 |
| seb128 | it's meeting time | 16:30 |
| attente | hi | 16:31 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, qengho, chrisccoulson, Laney, kenvandine, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, robru, tkamppeter, attente: hey, it's meeting time! | 16:31 |
| chrisccoulson | yo | 16:31 |
| seb128 | -Sweetshark (holidays) | 16:31 |
| cyphermox | yo | 16:31 |
| robru | seb128, good morning! | 16:32 |
| Laney | ahoy | 16:32 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2013-01-29 | 16:32 |
| * kenvandine waves | 16:32 | |
| seb128 | I hope everybody is doing good | 16:32 |
| robru | seb128, just wiping the sleep from my eyes ;-) | 16:32 |
| seb128 | current focus is nexus/mobile work, I hope a good bunch of you have work around that in their update ;-) | 16:33 |
| seb128 | let's get started | 16:33 |
| seb128 | robru, hehe, how early is it for you? 8:30am? | 16:33 |
| seb128 | qengho, hey | 16:33 |
| qengho | Yo. | 16:33 |
| robru | seb128, yep, 8:30 AM, which I know doesn't sound too early for most people but I normally like to wake up at 10 or 11 ;-) | 16:33 |
| qengho | [desktop-r-chromiumbrowser-improvements] | 16:33 |
| qengho | - Cr v24 is this " close to being released for stable Ubuntus. #webapps is verifying their patches. | 16:33 |
| qengho | - Slow progress on getting ARM (and therefore Raring) working. scheat crashed last week. | 16:33 |
| qengho | - Dogfooding ARM otherwise. | 16:33 |
| qengho | EOF | 16:33 |
| seb128 | still fighting arm then... good luck with that, let me know if there is anything you would need on | 16:34 |
| seb128 | I'm sure we can find some people to give you an hand if you struggle too much with it | 16:35 |
| seb128 | qengho, thanks | 16:35 |
| qengho | seb128: I would like another machine, since scheat is dead. That's one thing that would help. | 16:35 |
| chrisccoulson | i could probably help out there | 16:35 |
| chrisccoulson | or at least, could try ;) | 16:35 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, that would be great if you could | 16:36 |
| qengho | thanks! | 16:36 |
| seb128 | qengho, do we have any other porter box? you have a pandaboard/nexus, I guess those are not enough for what you need? | 16:36 |
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| qengho | seb128: I have a panda, but haven't had much luck in getting it running. Gave it 2 hours. Trying not to spend much time on it. | 16:37 |
| seb128 | ok | 16:38 |
| seb128 | qengho, let's sort the arm access issue out after the meeting | 16:38 |
| robru | qengho, I am also having troubles getting the pandaboard running. I can't seem to find the right image to boot it... | 16:38 |
| seb128 | qengho, thanks | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | my panda gets extremely hot when I build firefox on it. i can't imagine what it's like building chromium ;) | 16:38 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | for me: | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | - Worked on a partner update | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | - Thunderbird beta updated to 19.0 | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | - Been debugging some Thunderbird memory leaks | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | - Been tracking down an event handling bug in the current Firefox beta (events going to the wrong content) | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | - Tracked down some test failures that weren't occurring in local builds (thanks dh_scour/cdbs for messing up the test suites SVG's!) | 16:38 |
| chrisccoulson | also hoping to start doing N7/mobile work once i've got rid of current high-priority items ;) | 16:39 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, lol at dh_scour, iz pitti's fault for optimizing that for us? ;-) | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 16:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks; looking forward having you helping on the mobile work! | 16:40 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey | 16:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it took me a while to figure out why the test wouldn't fail locally :) | 16:40 |
| Laney | Thought/worked a bit on the default (l-s) fontconfig configuration last week. Called for testing on planet (test packages in ppa:laney/language-selector but none of you are ja/zh so don't bother ;-)). Turned 27 on Sunday (seeking walking stick). Worked a bit on enabling the gtk wayland backend. Had to iterate a couple of times but that's in now to please some sections of the community. Updated nexus 7. Won an easy 4M by killing ... | 16:40 |
| Laney | ... goa by default (the underlying bug is still there though). Now looking at maliit packaging with Quintasan. Should upload that to D & U tomorrow. | 16:40 |
| Laney | \0 | 16:40 |
| mterry | Laney, have you picked a grave plot yet? | 16:41 |
| Laney | I'm getting blasted into the sun | 16:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, lot of nice work, including memory saving on the default image, I like it! ;-) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 16:42 |
| Laney | np | 16:42 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 16:42 |
| kenvandine | * Reducing memory usage of friends-service by creating a light weight service in vala that hosts the Dee.SharedModel. This provides a significant memory reduction, on the order of 11x | 16:42 |
| kenvandine | * Finished up dual builds for qt4/qt5 for UOA | 16:42 |
| kenvandine | /EOF | 16:42 |
| mterry | kenvandine, 11x! nice | 16:43 |
| seb128 | \o/ | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | oh, and working on the dee-qt bindings dual build packages too | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | /DONE | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | mterry, thx :) | 16:43 |
| kenvandine | python with dee... not efficient :/ | 16:43 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, great stuff, thanks | 16:43 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, hey | 16:44 |
| mlankhorst | removed 1 line of code today, testing reverse prime stuff | 16:44 |
| mlankhorst | eg intel driving nvidia display | 16:44 |
| robru | mterry, seb128: and that 11x is on top of the 4x improvement that I already did by fixing memory leaks ;-) | 16:44 |
| mterry | :) | 16:44 |
| mlankhorst | lts-stack landed in -updates | 16:45 |
| mlankhorst | looking good, blobs still need to land | 16:45 |
| seb128 | robru, you guys play the "let's add some bugs we can fix later to look good" right? ;-) | 16:45 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, great to see the lts backport stuff getting in place, good work! | 16:46 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, thanks | 16:46 |
| mlankhorst | np :) | 16:46 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | hey! | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | - Finished up dbusmenu/indicator-session fixes for tests; so they now build daily | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | - I think we managed to get one daily build of libappindicator, but then tests are broken again, needs work | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | - Fixed bluetooth on the nexus -- wasn't getting the firmware downloaded in Raring, that's fixed via an upload of the uploader app (now in queue) that also ships a proper upstart job to push the firmware. | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | - MM catching and mangling tty of the nexus connected to a computer: fixed. | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | - Looking at why the getty for ttyGS0 is causing so many wakeups on the nexus | 16:46 |
| cyphermox | EOF | 16:46 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, yeah for bluetooth on the nexus! | 16:47 |
| cyphermox | yeah, it's about time! :D | 16:47 |
| cyphermox | works great now, that's what I use almost all the time | 16:48 |
| cyphermox | just make sure the firmware tool doesn't die, but it shouldn't | 16:48 |
| tkamppeter | cyphermox, then one can use BT keyboard and mouse and carries less cables on the go! | 16:48 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, it seems like dbusmenu didn't autoland in raring yet, do you know why (since you mentioned you got the tests fixed) | 16:48 |
| cyphermox | tkamppeter: yp! | 16:48 |
| cyphermox | seb128: no, and it's interesting because it's all blue | 16:49 |
| cyphermox | I wonder if didrocks maybe forgot to reactivate it | 16:49 |
| seb128 | could be, and he's not here this week | 16:49 |
| cyphermox | (in doubt, blame on the absent) | 16:49 |
| cyphermox | I'll look | 16:49 |
| seb128 | so if neither you mterry know, we should probably wait for him to be back | 16:49 |
| cyphermox | ok | 16:49 |
| ricotz | hello desktopers :) | 16:49 |
| seb128 | (asking because chrisccoulson fixed a leak in dbusmenu recently, would be good to have it landing in raring) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey (meeting ongoing) | 16:50 |
| cyphermox | indeed | 16:50 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks | 16:50 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 16:50 |
| chrisccoulson | there's another waiting review too | 16:50 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: link, I'll review :) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you should chase tedg and charles_ for review ;-) | 16:50 |
| seb128 | or cyphermox ;-) | 16:50 |
| mterry | - Revamped Software Updater a bit | 16:50 |
| mterry | - ubuntu-release-upgrader SRU for quantal | 16:50 |
| mterry | - Updated duplicity to 0.6.21 | 16:50 |
| mterry | - Updated workrave to work in Unity! | 16:50 |
| mterry | - Postponed non-mobile workitems | 16:50 |
| mterry | - Filed branch to reduce 30MB lightdm memory to ~4MB | 16:50 |
| mterry | - Nexus7 testing | 16:51 |
| mterry | - Investigating reports of indicator-appmenu leaks | 16:51 |
| mterry | - If we have known-work-to-do, I could lend a hand | 16:51 |
| mterry | EOF | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/libdbusmenu/lp1104136/+merge/144733 | 16:51 |
| seb128 | mterry, there is always known-work-to-do | 16:51 |
| mterry | seb128, I figured you'd perk up at that :) | 16:51 |
| seb128 | mterry, like restore nautilus' desktop menu/hud integration that got broken/dropped in the 3.6 update | 16:51 |
| seb128 | mterry, you know me :p | 16:52 |
| mterry | seb128, oh that's still todo? I can look into that | 16:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, anyway, feel free to ping me after the meeting, I can bounce some "known todo" so you can see if one suits you ;-) | 16:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, it is, that would be great | 16:52 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 16:52 |
| seb128 | robru, hey | 16:52 |
| robru | hey hey | 16:52 |
| robru | * Continuing to work on firming up libfriends API. | 16:53 |
| robru | * Finished inlining mardy's code.google packages. | 16:53 |
| robru | * Reviewed some deja-dup patches for mterry. | 16:53 |
| robru | * Learning Vala ;-) | 16:53 |
| robru | * Still haven't gotten my pandaboard working but I am using the N7 for testing things. | 16:53 |
| Laney | N7 is a better buildd anyway :P | 16:53 |
| robru | eof | 16:53 |
| seb128 | robru, qengho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsIW7EF103A btw | 16:54 |
| ogra_ | Laney, really depends if your build needs disk IO or not | 16:54 |
| seb128 | that was an hangout explained how to get the panda running | 16:54 |
| seb128 | you should watch it ;-) | 16:54 |
| robru | seb128, ok, will do, thanks | 16:54 |
| seb128 | I'm sure ogra_ can also help you if you run into specific issues | 16:54 |
| seb128 | robru, thanks | 16:54 |
| qengho | seb128: thanks. | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | definitely :) | 16:55 |
| seb128 | attente, hey | 16:55 |
| robru | seb128, I got the installer to install at one point, but the installed system wouldn't boot after that. not sure where I went wrong | 16:55 |
| ogra_ | and there is #ubuntu-arm for arm support as well | 16:55 |
| attente | seb128, hey | 16:55 |
| attente | the module now works with gtk 2, welcome anyone to try it ppa:attente/unity-gtk-module | 16:55 |
| attente | minor issue with inkscape (menu items are missing labels) | 16:55 |
| attente | making a workaround for this, but other than that can start taking on other work | 16:55 |
| attente | EOF | 16:55 |
| seb128 | great | 16:55 |
| qengho | ogra_: I am IO-bound, I'm sure. Panda is better than N7? | 16:56 |
| seb128 | did anyone play with that yet? I wanted to try it before the meeting but got sidetracked, I will install the ppa directly after the meeting | 16:56 |
| qengho | I have class-10 SDHC attached to panda | 16:56 |
| Laney | I wouldn't know how to play with it | 16:56 |
| attente | seb128, i'm not sure if anyone's tried it | 16:56 |
| xnox | attach a usb external hdd. | 16:56 |
| attente | except for larsu | 16:56 |
| xnox | all sd-cards suck compared to spinny disks or real ssd | 16:57 |
| Laney | a quick mail with testing instructions would be good | 16:57 |
| qengho | xnox: thanks. | 16:57 |
| attente | Laney: sure | 16:57 |
| Laney | ♥ | 16:57 |
| ogra_ | qengho, a USB 3.0 disk will give you faster IO than the MMC in the nexus7 | 16:57 |
| seb128 | attente, inkscape seems to be a bit of a weird case, there is e.g bug #775702 open about it having issues with dbusmenu | 16:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 775702 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "Some menu icons missing in Inkscape since upgrade to 11.04" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775702 | 16:57 |
| qengho | Laney: Compose-<-3? | 16:57 |
| Laney | correct | 16:57 |
| qengho | Nice. | 16:58 |
| seb128 | attente, good idea, if you feel like getting extra testing, maybe drop an email on ubuntu-desktop@l.u.c about it | 16:58 |
| seb128 | attente, thanks | 16:58 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | Worked on a third size of printing stack for mobile: After the full desktop stack (which we had all the time) and the super-mini-1-MB stack (cups-daemon, cups-browsed, libcups2) I am thinking about a third, intermediate stack. | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | The super-mini stack requires a remote CUPS server to provide the printers, direct network printing is not possible. | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | The intermediate stack will have some filters to generate common formats like PDF, PostScript, PCL-XL, PWG Raster, JPEG and with an extended cups-browsed it will make IPP printers of the local network available automatically in a driverless fashion (no printer-model-specific data/software in the printing stack). | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | It is more or less like the iPhone, where AirPrint printers are automatically available, without printer setup tool. | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | This will work mainly with IPP Everywhere printers which will start hitting the market this year, but also with some legacy devices which accept PDF, PostScript, or PCL-XL. | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | For the desktop the classic printer-driver-based method will stay available. | 16:58 |
| tkamppeter | I have also looked into the changes to be done so that printer driver auto download also works with the GNOME printer setup tool and also organized the transfer of a color laser printer from larsu to Marek Kasik, upstream developer of GNOME's print dialog and GNOME's printer setup tool. | 16:59 |
| tkamppeter | EOF | 16:59 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, ok, great, thanks | 16:59 |
| seb128 | me: I've been looking at the nexus memory usage, e.g https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Smem-2013-01-16 | 17:00 |
| seb128 | reviewing blueprints/workitems, adding some to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-reduced-power-ram from the issues/work identified | 17:00 |
| seb128 | that's it | 17:01 |
| seb128 | questions? comments? | 17:01 |
| attente | seb128: any work items i could take a look at? | 17:01 |
| seb128 | attente, maybe look to the spec I just pointed | 17:02 |
| seb128 | anything that is in state TODO is probably free to grab | 17:02 |
| seb128 | just ping whoever is assigned to the item to check before starting to not conflict | 17:03 |
| attente | ok, sure, thanks | 17:03 |
| seb128 | is there any type of work you would prefer? low level? ui? profiling? memory usage issues? | 17:03 |
| ricotz | seb128, hi, did you notice reports mentioning "Unable to find default local directory monitor type" lately? | 17:06 |
| seb128 | ok, no comment it seems | 17:06 |
| seb128 | </end of meeting> | 17:06 |
| seb128 | thanks everybody | 17:06 |
| seb128 | ricotz, hey, none no | 17:07 |
| ricotz | seb128, hmm, i see | 17:07 |
| seb128 | jbicha, e-d-s run into runtime issue/gtype issue if build with bsymbolic, we need to keep that on Ubuntu, maybe we can forward a patch to debian that dpkg-vendor check if it's Ubuntu and modify the ldflags then | 17:14 |
| jbicha | seb128: maybe it would be fine for Debian too? | 17:16 |
| tkamppeter | cyphermox, when will the Bluetooth fix show up on the N7? | 17:16 |
| seb128 | jbicha, like, just not needed in Debian, they don't have bsymbolic-function in their default compiler flags | 17:17 |
| lool | seb128: gnome-power-manager doesn't seem to use consolekit anymore; do you mind if I drop the dep? | 17:35 |
| lool | I guess I should do that in Debian | 17:36 |
| seb128 | lool, feel free, g-p-m isn't do much anymore nowadays, it's mostly the ui which gives you details about your devices/their batteries and some stats | 17:37 |
| seb128 | isn't doing* | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | yeah,. it went on a lethal diet over the years | 17:38 |
| seb128 | attente, thanks for the email, what about posting to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop ? or you don't feel like ready for feedback from more people yet? | 17:44 |
| attente | seb128, i could maybe after i get this issue worked out with inkscape | 17:45 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:46 |
| attente | i'm sure there are enough issues with it for me to work through in the mean time :) | 17:46 |
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| cyphermox | tkamppeter: it's in the raring queue, will take the time to be reviewed by archive admins | 17:59 |
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| mterry | attente, heyo. unity-gtk-module is for 13.04, right? | 18:11 |
| attente | mterry: hey, yep | 18:11 |
| attente | guess i should've mentioned that... | 18:12 |
| mterry | attente, no, I assumed. I just wanted to double-check. I might have a patch for it, to add support for exporting GtkMenuButtons if GtkMenuBar isn't found (i.e. nautilus and other GNOME 3.x apps) | 18:13 |
| attente | mterry, oh cool | 18:14 |
| mterry | attente, haven't started yet, but I may hit you up with questions if I hit one | 18:15 |
| mterry | hit a question that is :) | 18:15 |
| attente | ah, ok :) | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | w00t, nailed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835044 | 18:32 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 835044 in Widget: Gtk "Firefox 19.0b+ on Linux (Windows OK) selects wrong row in XUL tree in level="parent" panel" [Normal,New] | 18:32 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well done ;-) | 18:34 |
| mterry | tedg, is there an existing dbus API that I could export menus too, that would show up in hud? (but not appmenu proper or anything) | 18:36 |
| tedg | mterry, No, there's the webapps stuff which is a bit different, but it's not generalized. | 18:36 |
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| seb128 | re | 18:51 |
| seb128 | attente, sooooo | 18:51 |
| seb128 | attente, you broke my chromium menus! | 18:51 |
| attente | seb128, sorry! | 18:52 |
| seb128 | attente, lol, don't worry, just testing your ppa ... seems to work fine, out of chromium which became menu-less | 18:52 |
| seb128 | works fine including firefox/libreoffice | 18:53 |
| seb128 | which is quite good ;-) | 18:53 |
| attente | seb128, good thing i didn't email ubuntu-desktop... | 18:53 |
| seb128 | I'm sure chromium does something weird | 18:53 |
| attente | i'll check it out | 18:53 |
| seb128 | attente, well, people reading tech mailing list and optin for a ppa are usually people who like some actions, they are not users who will be screwed | 18:54 |
| chrisccoulson | 7,492kB/s, oh yeah | 18:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, tell me that the "," is a decimal separator and not a thousand one :p | 18:56 |
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| chrisccoulson | seb128, no, it's not a decimal separator ;) | 18:56 |
| seb128 | not fair :p | 18:57 |
| seb128 | I'm not even sure my wifi card handle that rate :p | 18:57 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 18:58 |
| chrisccoulson | attente, does the new unity-gtk-module require the menubar to be visible in the window in order for it to be exported to the panel? | 18:59 |
| attente | chrisccoulson, yes | 19:00 |
| chrisccoulson | attente, ah, there's the issue with chromium then :) | 19:01 |
| chrisccoulson | the menubar is hidden, so it just doesn't have one outside of unity | 19:01 |
| chrisccoulson | they just embed a hidden menubar for unity, and appmenu-gtk didn't care whether it was visible or not | 19:01 |
| attente | oh.. | 19:02 |
| attente | maybe we should all just use firefox :p | 19:03 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 19:03 |
| chrisccoulson | attente, yes, that's fine with me ;) | 19:03 |
| seb128 | attente, there is something weird with shotwell (we had bugs in the old dbusmenu world with shotwell at the start as well) | 19:03 |
| chrisccoulson | attente, as long as you don't report bugs :P | 19:03 |
| seb128 | attente, if you double click on a photo in your library, is the "file" menu normal? it only has an "activate" item there | 19:04 |
| seb128 | on that note, time for dinner, I will keep playing with that later | 19:04 |
| seb128 | bbiab | 19:04 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i see how the new module works now. i guess hijacking the realize call isn't going to work for chrome | 19:04 |
| attente | seb128, the menus seem fine to me, but i don't have any photos imported yet | 19:04 |
| attente | seb128, ah, i see it | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder if hijacking realize has any effect on firefox when it is showing its own menubar | 19:06 |
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| chrisccoulson | seeing as it creates a hidden window with a menubar in order to get style info | 19:06 |
| attente | firefox exports its menu over dbus directly right? | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | attente, yeah. but it creates an offscreen window with various widgets in it to extract theme info | 19:07 |
| attente | oh, interesting | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | attente, yeah, i bet that breaks theming when not running inside unity, as the widget doesn't have style data until it's realized, does it? | 19:09 |
| chrisccoulson | i should install this package and test it :) | 19:10 |
| bryce | cyphermox, heya, there's a couple WI's of yours on the desktop-r-arm-input-sensor-drivers blueprint. I'm guessing you've already done the investigations, but can you update me on the status of them when you get a moment? | 19:14 |
| cyphermox | bryce: I got bluetooth to work | 19:25 |
| cyphermox | haven't got much time to look into the NFC and GPS -- I was hoping to pass those back to you, or work on it at the sprint | 19:25 |
| cyphermox | seems like both might need the help of that broadcom patcher anyway, so nothing's lost | 19:26 |
| cyphermox | the libraries for nfc don't support the pn544 chip afaict | 19:26 |
| cyphermox | so it's pretty much custom android work for this, but I did find some code with potential | 19:26 |
| cyphermox | as for GPS, it would probably just be a matter of testing with gpsd, it just might work | 19:27 |
| bryce | cyphermox, yeah we should chat with alex at the sprint | 19:27 |
| bryce | cyphermox, thanks. If you can jot any notes down into the whiteboard that'll help us jog our memories at the sprint. | 19:28 |
| cyphermox | whiteboard? | 19:28 |
| bryce | cyphermox, the whiteboard on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-arm-input-sensor-drivers | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | ah yeah | 19:30 |
| bryce | (people have been jotting their findings there, so seems like the right place to capture these notes) | 19:30 |
| dobey | xnox: ping. i thought you looked at my patch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/859600 ? did you not sponsor it? no comments on the bug and don't see a new version in ubuntu | 19:32 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 859600 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Precise) "Please convert gnome-keyring to multiarch" [High,In progress] | 19:32 |
| xnox | dobey: yes, i looked / reviewed it. but no, I did not sponsor it. | 19:34 |
| xnox | dobey: i was hoping for slangasek or stockachu to comment on it, as they previously tried to tackle it and hit some troubles with it. | 19:35 |
| xnox | dobey: can you ping them, as they do not appear to be on #-desktop, but should be on #-devel | 19:35 |
| dobey | oh, ok | 19:35 |
| bryce | thanks cyphermox | 19:44 |
| cyphermox | bryce: hmm, looks like there has been text truncated | 19:44 |
| cyphermox | heh nevermind | 19:45 |
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| robru | attente, just installed unity-gtk-module. I'll be sure to bitch at you when my laptop implodes ;-) | 20:35 |
| attente | robru: looking forward to it :) | 20:36 |
| robru | attente, do I have to restart applications, or does it take effect right away? | 20:36 |
| attente | ah, i forgot to mention that.. yeah, it requires a log-out | 20:37 |
| robru | oh, ok. not ready to log out just yet. in the middle of some stuff ;-) | 20:37 |
| robru | but soon I'll begin testing this. | 20:37 |
| attente | thanks :) | 20:37 |
| robru | yw | 20:37 |
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| qengho | robru: I think I solved my problem with making the panda image. | 21:37 |
| qengho | robru: what was your problem with Panda? | 21:37 |
| robru | qengho, well, I wasn't sure if I had the right installation media. tried a few different ones; most wouldn't even boot, but the one that did boot, installed ok, but then the installation wouldn't boot | 21:40 |
| qengho | robru: ah. Hrmpth. | 21:40 |
| robru | qengho, yeah, no idea. I'm gonna look at it again in a few minutes here. just cleaning up some loose ends | 21:47 |
| qengho | Er, now raring-desktop-armhf+omap4.img is 22MB. That doesn't seem right. | 22:06 |
| Laney | the dailies are (were) busted atm | 22:07 |
| Laney | (armhf ones) | 22:07 |
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| qengho | Laney: yesterday's is closer to the right size. Maybe it's okay. | 22:08 |
| qengho | Laney: Is there a known good image online? quantal release, perhaps? | 22:08 |
| mlankhorst | precise ones? :-) | 22:09 |
| Laney | quantal should work, yeah | 22:10 |
| Laney | or if you wait until tomorrow raring ought to be fixed again | 22:10 |
| Laney | if you believe IS, that is. | 22:10 |
| ogra_ | well, i havent seen any builds come out yet | 22:12 |
| mlankhorst | is bluetooth fixed on nexus 7 yet? | 22:12 |
| ogra_ | even though the builder is up again since a while already | 22:13 |
| Laney | want to try a respin? | 22:13 |
| ogra_ | mlankhorst, the fix sits in the NEW queue | 22:13 |
| ogra_ | needs a review | 22:13 |
| ogra_ | (the brcm-patchram package) | 22:14 |
| mlankhorst | I'm on raring :( | 22:14 |
| ogra_ | i'm talking about raring | 22:15 |
| ogra_ | quantal was a demo and is dead | 22:15 |
| ogra_ | Laney, well, the build i started at 16:00 UTC is still active, though i dont see it running at all on cadejo | 22:16 |
| Laney | "quality" | 22:17 |
| Laney | time for your twice-daily #is poke :-) | 22:17 |
| ogra_ | heh | 22:20 |
| robru | qengho, yeah, a few days ago when I was trying this, all I could find were these 22MB raring images. The one I mentioned that installed ok but then wouldn't boot was a quantal image. | 22:21 |
| ogra_ | well, first i killed the processes on nusakan, cadejo is still reachable | 22:21 |
| Laney | yeah, it was before, wasn't it? Just doing nothing because the FS was read only | 22:21 |
| ogra_ | well, i couldnt reach it at all | 22:22 |
| ogra_ | now i can at least get to it via w3m | 22:22 |
| ogra_ | before it seemed to be hung hard | 22:22 |
| Laney | I thought I could lftp to it before, but I may be wrong | 22:23 |
| Laney | either way, sad panda is sad | 22:23 |
| ogra_ | sigh | 22:23 |
| ogra_ | well, its 23:23 here | 22:23 |
| ogra_ | i surely wont hunt down iss now | 22:24 |
| Laney | yeah, I imagine it's a tomorrow morning task :P | 22:24 |
| robru | qengho, when do you EOD? I'm gonna step out for a quick break but when I get back I'm gonna try to boot up my pandaboard again. trying yesterday's raring image that's >600MB | 22:38 |
| robru | is that the one you used? | 22:38 |
| qengho | robru: I'm out soon. I'm trying the quantal server image first to make sure it's okay. | 22:39 |
| qengho | ubuntu-12.10-server-armhf+omap.img.zsync | 22:40 |
| qengho | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.10/release/ubuntu-12.10-server-armhf+omap.img.zsync | 22:40 |
| robru | qengho, k, thanks. I'll play with it a bit in the coming hours and then maybe we can touch base tomorrow. | 22:42 |
| qengho | robru: ack. Zzz. | 22:45 |
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| robru | attente, ok, have rebooted. haven't noticed any issues yet, but I also haven't used any of the apps you mentioned had known issues. | 23:29 |
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