=== m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [04:34] Good morning [08:52] Good Morning all. [08:53] Who do I bug about pygobject? :) [08:53] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692515 [08:53] Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Differentiate Python created GType enum names to avoid registration problems" [Normal,New] [08:56] BigWhale, hey, you want to talk to pitti, he's the gobject master ;-) [08:57] gobject->pygobject [08:57] pitti, open hailing frequencies! :)) [08:58] hey BigWhale, ça va? [08:59] pitti, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692515 [08:59] Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Differentiate Python created GType enum names to avoid registration problems" [Normal,New] [08:59] pitti, right now gstreamer in python is broken in Raring. [08:59] BigWhale: J'ai vu ce bug, mais je n'ai pas le temps cette semaine [09:00] BigWhale, do you speak french? ;-) [09:00] BigWhale: it was fixed upstream in gstreamer, wasn't it? if that blocks you, please feel free to backport this? [09:00] BigWhale: oh, sorry! somehow I misremembered you being French [09:01] ... :> [09:01] unfortunately no... :) [09:02] BigWhale: it's seb128's fault [09:02] pitti, there will be no updates from upstream to Raring? This isn't blocking just me, but everyone. [09:02] BigWhale: since he became tech lead, it's the official desktop team language [09:03] BigWhale: oh, I'm fairly sure there will be another upstream release in time for raring [09:03] BigWhale: there will surely be one for pygobject, and I'll deal with this next week after the sprint [09:05] pitti, ok, cool. This, looks quite serious to me (unless I'm the only one using gstreamer in python). :) [09:07] BigWhale, you are the only one using gstreamer in python... [09:07] or one of the few ones [09:07] seb128, makes sense ... I'm usually stuck with: 'nobody did this before' ... :)) [09:07] BigWhale, if you can find the commit in gstreamer that fixes it we can backport it [09:08] seb128: well, once sessioninstaller finally gets ported away from sessioninstaller he won't be any more :) [09:08] pitti, sessioninstaller porterd away from itself, isn't that going to loop? :p [09:09] BigWhale, seb128: I think it's http://cgit.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gstreamer/commit/?id=d2b03a45371900e3100209b5fa4d3412b23aef94 [09:09] pitti, danke [09:10] Laney, ^ is there any chance you could look at that and see if it fixes https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692515 (I see that you commented on the bug)? ;-) [09:10] Gnome bug 692515 in introspection "Differentiate Python created GType enum names to avoid registration problems" [Normal,New] [09:10] morning ;-) [09:17] pitti, seb128 there was a reference to some other bug that supposedly fixed this ... [09:18] Oh, pitti found it .. [09:18] I got it [09:19] Laney, hey, how are you? [09:19] good morning evryone [09:19] good thanks! [09:19] hi seb128, Laney [09:20] hey chrisccoulson [09:20] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? [09:20] seb128, yeah, good thanks. just eating some toast :) [09:20] how are you> [09:20] ? [09:20] I'm good thanks [09:21] chrisccoulson, toast with eggs and beans? aka english breakfast? ;-) [09:21] hah, i wish :) [09:21] toast with honey [09:21] i think i'd prefer the eggs (and bacon, and sausage, and hash browns) [09:24] hmmm, i really need to get a new bulb for my desk lamp. it's too dark in here [09:24] especially now the weather has turned grey and miserable again [09:37] Stop talking about food! I'm up since 4am and had no breakfast yet ... :> [09:41] hah, 4am is the time i went to bed ;) [09:44] yeah that patch seems to make kazam able to record screencasts again [09:45] I can't watch them back using totem for some reason though, and the colours are messed up in vlc [09:46] hi, es sieht so aus als hätte ich meinen ubuntu desktop getötet, mit dem versuch gnome 3.7 und gtk+3 zu installieren. [09:46] hat jemand eine idee wie ich das wieder hinbekomme ? [09:46] h264/mp4 works best [09:47] sry ;-) english again [09:48] it seems, that i have killed my ubuntu 12.10 desktop whit an gnome 3.7 installation and a gtk+3 / libgtk-3 [09:49] any idea how i can restore this to default ? [09:50] currently i've got some gtk errors when i start some programms [10:03] Laney, well, I'll take care about reproduction later... and check if anything is wrong with recording in that matter. [10:04] righto. I uploaded the fix anyways so you should get it down the tubes in due course [10:07] Great! Thanks! [10:08] The amount of beers I'll have to buy to various at UDS people is quickly rising ... [10:08] :)) === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr_ === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === jhernandez is now known as jhernandez|lunch === mpt_ is now known as mpt [12:38] Laney, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-onscreen-keyboard-review btw ;-) [12:39] seb128: heh, I just looked at ones linked from the topic :P [12:39] Laney, I dropped the workitem on the other spec and reassigned the one on this one to you [12:39] ok then [12:40] Laney, I've added it to the topic spec depends so it will show up there, sorry about that [12:41] oh I see, that's how they work [12:44] Laney, lovely ! maliit !! [12:45] even though onboard really really improved since UDS [12:45] yeah, onboard upstream is doing a great job [12:45] shame it's written in python [12:45] well, you dont really notice the python anymore speed wise [12:46] I'd still use onboard for now ;-) [12:46] no arrows/modifier keys in maliit [12:46] ugh [12:48] I do seem to be a bit more accurate / faster in it though [12:48] chrisccoulson, hey, looking to team workitems, wdyt about postponing overlay scrollbars and evo importer from your WIs? [12:49] seb128, sure, i don't have a problem with that [12:49] chrisccoulson, done! ;-) [12:49] thanks [12:50] yw ;-) [12:57] bah, dist-upgrade on my nexus "bricked" it [12:57] e.g I get a blank screen instead of X [12:59] seb128, upgraded from what ? quantal ? [12:59] raring 2 weeks old to raring [12:59] i didnt have any issues with yesterdays upgrade [12:59] let me try [13:00] * ogra_ twiddles thumbs waiting for apt-get update ... [13:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585822/ [13:01] * ogra_ hits yes [13:05] ogra_, my Xorg.0.log has lines like "[ 50.919] (WW) TEGRA(0): LVDS-1: Error querying display modes: No such device." [13:05] normal [13:05] ok [13:05] well the system is running [13:06] I can ssh to it [13:06] weird [13:06] it's connected to the network [13:06] I just have nothing rendered on screen [13:06] we changed the screen rotation defaults [13:06] but that shouldnt affect the display, only the input until the new kernel is in [13:07] * ogra_ reboots, lets see [13:08] seb128, no issues here but i'm using the new kernel already ... though that only has a dropped patch in the touchscreen code [13:08] shouldnt affect the display at all [13:09] * ogra_ tries something [13:11] hmm, no, i thought it could be the rotated console clashing with X un-rotated, but that starts fine here as well === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [13:18] sebi cant reproduce it :/ [13:18] oh, he is gone [13:18] seb128, can't reproduce it here :/ === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [13:37] ogra_, sorry, I was talking to dholbach, need to restart my session and I will keep looking into that [13:38] seb128, ok, my system surely isnt ,much default anymore atm since everyone gives me fixes to test, but i cant really reproduce it === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === jhernandez|lunch is now known as jhernandez [13:51] ogra_, that's the xorg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1585925/ [13:51] ogra_, is there any way to boot the previous kernel? [14:00] ogra_, sorry, I rebooted the wrong device, meant to reboot the nexus... [14:00] ogra_, did you see my question about booting old kernel? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === francisco is now known as Guest38765 === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [16:10] cyphermox: I was looking at eds and the remaining diff we have with Debian is the symbolic functions filtering & having libeds depend on eds-common, should those be forwarded to Debian? [16:11] symbolic functions filtering? [16:11] I'm going to tentatively say yes [16:12] it's in debian/rules [16:12] it compiles fine without so I wasn't sure what it was for [16:30] hey everybody [16:30] it's meeting time [16:31] hi [16:31] Sweetshark, qengho, chrisccoulson, Laney, kenvandine, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, robru, tkamppeter, attente: hey, it's meeting time! [16:31] yo [16:31] -Sweetshark (holidays) [16:31] yo [16:32] seb128, good morning! [16:32] ahoy [16:32] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2013-01-29 [16:32] * kenvandine waves [16:32] I hope everybody is doing good [16:32] seb128, just wiping the sleep from my eyes ;-) [16:33] current focus is nexus/mobile work, I hope a good bunch of you have work around that in their update ;-) [16:33] let's get started [16:33] robru, hehe, how early is it for you? 8:30am? [16:33] qengho, hey [16:33] Yo. [16:33] seb128, yep, 8:30 AM, which I know doesn't sound too early for most people but I normally like to wake up at 10 or 11 ;-) [16:33] [desktop-r-chromiumbrowser-improvements] [16:33] - Cr v24 is this " close to being released for stable Ubuntus. #webapps is verifying their patches. [16:33] - Slow progress on getting ARM (and therefore Raring) working. scheat crashed last week. [16:33] - Dogfooding ARM otherwise. [16:33] EOF [16:34] still fighting arm then... good luck with that, let me know if there is anything you would need on [16:35] I'm sure we can find some people to give you an hand if you struggle too much with it [16:35] qengho, thanks [16:35] seb128: I would like another machine, since scheat is dead. That's one thing that would help. [16:35] i could probably help out there [16:35] or at least, could try ;) [16:36] chrisccoulson, that would be great if you could [16:36] thanks! [16:36] qengho, do we have any other porter box? you have a pandaboard/nexus, I guess those are not enough for what you need? === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [16:37] seb128: I have a panda, but haven't had much luck in getting it running. Gave it 2 hours. Trying not to spend much time on it. [16:38] ok [16:38] qengho, let's sort the arm access issue out after the meeting [16:38] qengho, I am also having troubles getting the pandaboard running. I can't seem to find the right image to boot it... [16:38] qengho, thanks [16:38] my panda gets extremely hot when I build firefox on it. i can't imagine what it's like building chromium ;) [16:38] chrisccoulson, hey [16:38] for me: [16:38] - Worked on a partner update [16:38] - Thunderbird beta updated to 19.0 [16:38] - Been debugging some Thunderbird memory leaks [16:38] - Been tracking down an event handling bug in the current Firefox beta (events going to the wrong content) [16:38] - Tracked down some test failures that weren't occurring in local builds (thanks dh_scour/cdbs for messing up the test suites SVG's!) [16:39] also hoping to start doing N7/mobile work once i've got rid of current high-priority items ;) [16:40] chrisccoulson, lol at dh_scour, iz pitti's fault for optimizing that for us? ;-) [16:40] heh [16:40] chrisccoulson, thanks; looking forward having you helping on the mobile work! [16:40] Laney, hey [16:40] it took me a while to figure out why the test wouldn't fail locally :) [16:40] Thought/worked a bit on the default (l-s) fontconfig configuration last week. Called for testing on planet (test packages in ppa:laney/language-selector but none of you are ja/zh so don't bother ;-)). Turned 27 on Sunday (seeking walking stick). Worked a bit on enabling the gtk wayland backend. Had to iterate a couple of times but that's in now to please some sections of the community. Updated nexus 7. Won an easy 4M by killing ... [16:40] ... goa by default (the underlying bug is still there though). Now looking at maliit packaging with Quintasan. Should upload that to D & U tomorrow. [16:40] \0 [16:41] Laney, have you picked a grave plot yet? [16:41] I'm getting blasted into the sun [16:42] Laney, lot of nice work, including memory saving on the default image, I like it! ;-) [16:42] Laney, thanks [16:42] np [16:42] kenvandine, hey [16:42] * Reducing memory usage of friends-service by creating a light weight service in vala that hosts the Dee.SharedModel. This provides a significant memory reduction, on the order of 11x [16:42] * Finished up dual builds for qt4/qt5 for UOA [16:42] /EOF [16:43] kenvandine, 11x! nice [16:43] \o/ [16:43] oh, and working on the dee-qt bindings dual build packages too [16:43] /DONE [16:43] mterry, thx :) [16:43] python with dee... not efficient :/ [16:43] kenvandine, great stuff, thanks [16:44] mlankhorst, hey [16:44] removed 1 line of code today, testing reverse prime stuff [16:44] eg intel driving nvidia display [16:44] mterry, seb128: and that 11x is on top of the 4x improvement that I already did by fixing memory leaks ;-) [16:44] :) [16:45] lts-stack landed in -updates [16:45] looking good, blobs still need to land [16:45] robru, you guys play the "let's add some bugs we can fix later to look good" right? ;-) [16:46] mlankhorst, great to see the lts backport stuff getting in place, good work! [16:46] mlankhorst, thanks [16:46] np :) [16:46] cyphermox, hey [16:46] hey! [16:46] - Finished up dbusmenu/indicator-session fixes for tests; so they now build daily [16:46] - I think we managed to get one daily build of libappindicator, but then tests are broken again, needs work [16:46] - Fixed bluetooth on the nexus -- wasn't getting the firmware downloaded in Raring, that's fixed via an upload of the uploader app (now in queue) that also ships a proper upstart job to push the firmware. [16:46] - MM catching and mangling tty of the nexus connected to a computer: fixed. [16:46] - Looking at why the getty for ttyGS0 is causing so many wakeups on the nexus [16:46] EOF [16:47] cyphermox, yeah for bluetooth on the nexus! [16:47] yeah, it's about time! :D [16:48] works great now, that's what I use almost all the time [16:48] just make sure the firmware tool doesn't die, but it shouldn't [16:48] cyphermox, then one can use BT keyboard and mouse and carries less cables on the go! [16:48] cyphermox, it seems like dbusmenu didn't autoland in raring yet, do you know why (since you mentioned you got the tests fixed) [16:48] tkamppeter: yp! [16:49] seb128: no, and it's interesting because it's all blue [16:49] I wonder if didrocks maybe forgot to reactivate it [16:49] could be, and he's not here this week [16:49] (in doubt, blame on the absent) [16:49] I'll look [16:49] so if neither you mterry know, we should probably wait for him to be back [16:49] ok [16:49] hello desktopers :) [16:50] (asking because chrisccoulson fixed a leak in dbusmenu recently, would be good to have it landing in raring) [16:50] ricotz, hey (meeting ongoing) [16:50] indeed [16:50] cyphermox, thanks [16:50] mterry, hey [16:50] there's another waiting review too [16:50] chrisccoulson: link, I'll review :) [16:50] chrisccoulson, you should chase tedg and charles_ for review ;-) [16:50] or cyphermox ;-) [16:50] - Revamped Software Updater a bit [16:50] - ubuntu-release-upgrader SRU for quantal [16:50] - Updated duplicity to 0.6.21 [16:50] - Updated workrave to work in Unity! [16:50] - Postponed non-mobile workitems [16:50] - Filed branch to reduce 30MB lightdm memory to ~4MB [16:51] - Nexus7 testing [16:51] - Investigating reports of indicator-appmenu leaks [16:51] - If we have known-work-to-do, I could lend a hand [16:51] EOF [16:51] cyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/libdbusmenu/lp1104136/+merge/144733 [16:51] mterry, there is always known-work-to-do [16:51] seb128, I figured you'd perk up at that :) [16:51] mterry, like restore nautilus' desktop menu/hud integration that got broken/dropped in the 3.6 update [16:52] mterry, you know me :p [16:52] seb128, oh that's still todo? I can look into that [16:52] mterry, anyway, feel free to ping me after the meeting, I can bounce some "known todo" so you can see if one suits you ;-) [16:52] mterry, it is, that would be great [16:52] mterry, thanks [16:52] robru, hey [16:52] hey hey [16:53] * Continuing to work on firming up libfriends API. [16:53] * Finished inlining mardy's code.google packages. [16:53] * Reviewed some deja-dup patches for mterry. [16:53] * Learning Vala ;-) [16:53] * Still haven't gotten my pandaboard working but I am using the N7 for testing things. [16:53] N7 is a better buildd anyway :P [16:53] eof [16:54] robru, qengho: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsIW7EF103A btw [16:54] Laney, really depends if your build needs disk IO or not [16:54] that was an hangout explained how to get the panda running [16:54] you should watch it ;-) [16:54] seb128, ok, will do, thanks [16:54] I'm sure ogra_ can also help you if you run into specific issues [16:54] robru, thanks [16:55] seb128: thanks. [16:55] definitely :) [16:55] attente, hey [16:55] seb128, I got the installer to install at one point, but the installed system wouldn't boot after that. not sure where I went wrong [16:55] and there is #ubuntu-arm for arm support as well [16:55] seb128, hey [16:55] the module now works with gtk 2, welcome anyone to try it ppa:attente/unity-gtk-module [16:55] minor issue with inkscape (menu items are missing labels) [16:55] making a workaround for this, but other than that can start taking on other work [16:55] EOF [16:55] great [16:56] ogra_: I am IO-bound, I'm sure. Panda is better than N7? [16:56] did anyone play with that yet? I wanted to try it before the meeting but got sidetracked, I will install the ppa directly after the meeting [16:56] I have class-10 SDHC attached to panda [16:56] I wouldn't know how to play with it [16:56] seb128, i'm not sure if anyone's tried it [16:56] attach a usb external hdd. [16:56] except for larsu [16:57] all sd-cards suck compared to spinny disks or real ssd [16:57] a quick mail with testing instructions would be good [16:57] xnox: thanks. [16:57] Laney: sure [16:57] ♥ [16:57] qengho, a USB 3.0 disk will give you faster IO than the MMC in the nexus7 [16:57] attente, inkscape seems to be a bit of a weird case, there is e.g bug #775702 open about it having issues with dbusmenu [16:57] Launchpad bug 775702 in inkscape (Ubuntu) "Some menu icons missing in Inkscape since upgrade to 11.04" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/775702 [16:57] Laney: Compose-<-3? [16:57] correct [16:58] Nice. [16:58] attente, good idea, if you feel like getting extra testing, maybe drop an email on ubuntu-desktop@l.u.c about it [16:58] attente, thanks [16:58] tkamppeter, hey [16:58] Worked on a third size of printing stack for mobile: After the full desktop stack (which we had all the time) and the super-mini-1-MB stack (cups-daemon, cups-browsed, libcups2) I am thinking about a third, intermediate stack. [16:58] The super-mini stack requires a remote CUPS server to provide the printers, direct network printing is not possible. [16:58] The intermediate stack will have some filters to generate common formats like PDF, PostScript, PCL-XL, PWG Raster, JPEG and with an extended cups-browsed it will make IPP printers of the local network available automatically in a driverless fashion (no printer-model-specific data/software in the printing stack). [16:58] It is more or less like the iPhone, where AirPrint printers are automatically available, without printer setup tool. [16:58] This will work mainly with IPP Everywhere printers which will start hitting the market this year, but also with some legacy devices which accept PDF, PostScript, or PCL-XL. [16:58] For the desktop the classic printer-driver-based method will stay available. [16:59] I have also looked into the changes to be done so that printer driver auto download also works with the GNOME printer setup tool and also organized the transfer of a color laser printer from larsu to Marek Kasik, upstream developer of GNOME's print dialog and GNOME's printer setup tool. [16:59] EOF [16:59] tkamppeter, ok, great, thanks [17:00] me: I've been looking at the nexus memory usage, e.g https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Smem-2013-01-16 [17:00] reviewing blueprints/workitems, adding some to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-reduced-power-ram from the issues/work identified [17:01] that's it [17:01] questions? comments? [17:01] seb128: any work items i could take a look at? [17:02] attente, maybe look to the spec I just pointed [17:02] anything that is in state TODO is probably free to grab [17:03] just ping whoever is assigned to the item to check before starting to not conflict [17:03] ok, sure, thanks [17:03] is there any type of work you would prefer? low level? ui? profiling? memory usage issues? [17:06] seb128, hi, did you notice reports mentioning "Unable to find default local directory monitor type" lately? [17:06] ok, no comment it seems [17:06] [17:06] thanks everybody [17:07] ricotz, hey, none no [17:07] seb128, hmm, i see [17:14] jbicha, e-d-s run into runtime issue/gtype issue if build with bsymbolic, we need to keep that on Ubuntu, maybe we can forward a patch to debian that dpkg-vendor check if it's Ubuntu and modify the ldflags then [17:16] seb128: maybe it would be fine for Debian too? [17:16] cyphermox, when will the Bluetooth fix show up on the N7? [17:17] jbicha, like, just not needed in Debian, they don't have bsymbolic-function in their default compiler flags [17:35] seb128: gnome-power-manager doesn't seem to use consolekit anymore; do you mind if I drop the dep? [17:36] I guess I should do that in Debian [17:37] lool, feel free, g-p-m isn't do much anymore nowadays, it's mostly the ui which gives you details about your devices/their batteries and some stats [17:37] isn't doing* [17:38] yeah,. it went on a lethal diet over the years [17:44] attente, thanks for the email, what about posting to https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop ? or you don't feel like ready for feedback from more people yet? [17:45] seb128, i could maybe after i get this issue worked out with inkscape [17:46] ok [17:46] i'm sure there are enough issues with it for me to work through in the mean time :) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [17:59] tkamppeter: it's in the raring queue, will take the time to be reviewed by archive admins === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:11] attente, heyo. unity-gtk-module is for 13.04, right? [18:11] mterry: hey, yep [18:12] guess i should've mentioned that... [18:13] attente, no, I assumed. I just wanted to double-check. I might have a patch for it, to add support for exporting GtkMenuButtons if GtkMenuBar isn't found (i.e. nautilus and other GNOME 3.x apps) [18:14] mterry, oh cool [18:15] attente, haven't started yet, but I may hit you up with questions if I hit one [18:15] hit a question that is :) [18:15] ah, ok :) [18:32] w00t, nailed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=835044 [18:32] Mozilla bug 835044 in Widget: Gtk "Firefox 19.0b+ on Linux (Windows OK) selects wrong row in XUL tree in level="parent" panel" [Normal,New] === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [18:34] chrisccoulson, well done ;-) [18:36] tedg, is there an existing dbus API that I could export menus too, that would show up in hud? (but not appmenu proper or anything) [18:36] mterry, No, there's the webapps stuff which is a bit different, but it's not generalized. === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [18:51] re [18:51] attente, sooooo [18:51] attente, you broke my chromium menus! [18:52] seb128, sorry! [18:52] attente, lol, don't worry, just testing your ppa ... seems to work fine, out of chromium which became menu-less [18:53] works fine including firefox/libreoffice [18:53] which is quite good ;-) [18:53] seb128, good thing i didn't email ubuntu-desktop... [18:53] I'm sure chromium does something weird [18:53] i'll check it out [18:54] attente, well, people reading tech mailing list and optin for a ppa are usually people who like some actions, they are not users who will be screwed [18:55] 7,492kB/s, oh yeah [18:56] chrisccoulson, tell me that the "," is a decimal separator and not a thousand one :p === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [18:56] seb128, no, it's not a decimal separator ;) [18:57] not fair :p [18:57] I'm not even sure my wifi card handle that rate :p [18:58] heh :) [18:59] attente, does the new unity-gtk-module require the menubar to be visible in the window in order for it to be exported to the panel? [19:00] chrisccoulson, yes [19:01] attente, ah, there's the issue with chromium then :) [19:01] the menubar is hidden, so it just doesn't have one outside of unity [19:01] they just embed a hidden menubar for unity, and appmenu-gtk didn't care whether it was visible or not [19:02] oh.. [19:03] maybe we should all just use firefox :p [19:03] ;-) [19:03] attente, yes, that's fine with me ;) [19:03] attente, there is something weird with shotwell (we had bugs in the old dbusmenu world with shotwell at the start as well) [19:03] attente, as long as you don't report bugs :P [19:04] attente, if you double click on a photo in your library, is the "file" menu normal? it only has an "activate" item there [19:04] on that note, time for dinner, I will keep playing with that later [19:04] bbiab [19:04] oh, i see how the new module works now. i guess hijacking the realize call isn't going to work for chrome [19:04] seb128, the menus seem fine to me, but i don't have any photos imported yet [19:05] seb128, ah, i see it [19:06] i wonder if hijacking realize has any effect on firefox when it is showing its own menubar === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [19:06] seeing as it creates a hidden window with a menubar in order to get style info [19:06] firefox exports its menu over dbus directly right? [19:07] attente, yeah. but it creates an offscreen window with various widgets in it to extract theme info [19:07] oh, interesting [19:09] attente, yeah, i bet that breaks theming when not running inside unity, as the widget doesn't have style data until it's realized, does it? [19:10] i should install this package and test it :) [19:14] cyphermox, heya, there's a couple WI's of yours on the desktop-r-arm-input-sensor-drivers blueprint. I'm guessing you've already done the investigations, but can you update me on the status of them when you get a moment? [19:25] bryce: I got bluetooth to work [19:25] haven't got much time to look into the NFC and GPS -- I was hoping to pass those back to you, or work on it at the sprint [19:26]