| darkxst | ricotz, have you had any problems with monitor not going in to power saving/sleep? | 09:33 |
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| darkxst | only works when I force dpms with xset ;( | 09:33 |
| ricotz | darkxst, seems not happening here too, just the "screensaver" turns on | 11:40 |
| darkxst | ricotz, yeh, i have tried 3 different nvidia blobs and without xorg-edgers, nothing fixes it | 15:27 |
| darkxst | wonder if its a bug in g-s-d | 15:27 |
| ricotz | darkxst, yes, this is for sure g-s-d/g-c-c | 15:29 |
| darkxst | ricotz, I guess I will investigate further tomorrow, there have been a heap of patches to the g-s-d power module, the last few weeks | 15:40 |
| ricotz | darkxst, this is a problem with a runtime dependency on systemd | 15:41 |
| darkxst | hmm ok | 15:48 |
| ivanovnegro | hi guys, if i want to beta test a bit i guess i have to upgrade from an installed 12.10 as there are no images of 13.04 yet? i ask bc i do not run 12.10 :) | 18:12 |
| atrus | ricotz: do you know if there's a path forward for ubuntu + systemd (even if mainstream ubuntu doesn't use it)? | 18:14 |
| jbicha | atrus: the Ubuntu Foundations team doesn't want systemd in the Ubuntu repositories at this time, I suppose people could start a PPA if they want | 18:35 |
| jbicha | ivanovnegro: you're welcome to try building your own image, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/+junk/iso-build-script | 18:39 |
| ivanovnegro | thanks jbicha | 18:41 |
| ivanovnegro | i am a debian guy, so did not found info but i see the home page is in work | 18:41 |
| ivanovnegro | special things for the new release? | 18:55 |
| ivanovnegro | looks fine so far what was included in 12.10 | 18:55 |
| ivanovnegro | vanilla, like that | 18:55 |
| jbicha | ivanovnegro: we're using Ubuntu Software Center & Software Updater instead of the gpk tools by default in 13.04 | 19:06 |
| ivanovnegro | thanks, saw it right now, seems, good, package kit is meh :) | 19:06 |
| jbicha | and gnome-panel is no longer included by default | 19:06 |
| ivanovnegro | will use only apt anyway | 19:06 |
| ivanovnegro | no need for the panel | 19:07 |
| ivanovnegro | here :) | 19:07 |
| jbicha | we may use firefox instead of epiphany by default but I wanted to see how that would affect .iso size first | 19:07 |
| ivanovnegro | also good ;) | 19:07 |
| ivanovnegro | nice nice | 19:07 |
| jbicha | there's a similar question about libreoffice instead of abiword/gnumeric but I'm less sure about that | 19:08 |
| ivanovnegro | so far, nice plans i have to say | 19:09 |
| ivanovnegro | sure, i use libre | 19:09 |
| ivanovnegro | shell runs nicely on my old intel lappy | 19:09 |
| ivanovnegro | but still 3.4 on sid | 19:09 |
| jbicha | both 12.10 and 13.04 use 3.6 (although 3.6 is a bit more complete in 13.04) | 19:10 |
| ivanovnegro | that is the thing, 12.10 would be already an improvement for me :) | 19:10 |
| jbicha | getting wheezy out the door is important of course | 19:11 |
| ivanovnegro | i know | 19:12 |
| ivanovnegro | but gnome on sid is sometimes tough for me | 19:12 |
| jbicha | perhaps 3.8 will show up in unstable this spring instead of trying to push 3.6 there | 19:12 |
| ivanovnegro | wow | 19:13 |
| ivanovnegro | wait, you are in gnome debian, right? | 19:13 |
| jbicha | that's not official, just a guess because wheezy still looks a month away and it might be easier to skip a transition | 19:14 |
| jbicha | yes I help merge some of the Ubuntu stuff to Debian | 19:15 |
| ivanovnegro | ok ok | 19:15 |
| ivanovnegro | nice to talk to you and thanks for the info | 19:16 |
| ivanovnegro | will play a bit with the remix | 19:16 |
| ivanovnegro | i like what i see | 19:16 |
| ivanovnegro | off to go outside | 19:17 |
| * ivanovnegro is away: Away | 19:19 | |
| darkxst | ricotz, jbicha, my monitor power saving issues are fixed in g-s-d master, can we put a snapshot somewhere | 20:53 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hmm, let's see | 21:08 |
| ricotz | darkxst, will push it to ricotz/staging | 21:18 |
| darkxst | ok | 21:18 |
| ricotz | luckily it "only" needs newer gnome-desktop | 21:19 |
| jbicha | darkxst: I think we would want a git snapshot of gnome-control-center then as it's good to keep those 2 in sync | 21:19 |
| darkxst | jbicha, yes true | 21:20 |
| jbicha | g-c-c has a few more dependencies, I wasn't sure how to package the libwacom update | 21:20 |
| ricotz | jbicha, libwacom should be up2date now | 21:20 |
| jbicha | we could revert the libwacom changes until we figure that out though... | 21:20 |
| ricotz | was there an even newer release already? | 21:21 |
| jbicha | oops I meant colord | 21:22 |
| jbicha | I knew it was one of those panels I don't use ;) | 21:22 |
| ricotz | i see | 21:24 |
| jbicha | I should ping RAOF about it | 21:25 |
| ricotz | yeah, please do if there is a new release | 21:26 |
| ricotz | Requested 'colord >= 0.1.27' but version of colord is 0.1.23 | 21:26 |
| ricotz | ;) | 21:26 |
| jbicha | yeah 0.1.28 is the latest, maybe the problem was I needed a newer colord-gtk which is already fixed, I'll try building it again | 21:28 |
| jbicha | ok it was that the patches didn't apply cleanly and I didn't know how to handle it | 21:41 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell was the last to touch it so maybe he can fix it | 21:41 |
| ricotz | jbicha, looks like a greater packaging change | 22:05 |
| ricotz | but you can disable all packages | 22:05 |
| jbicha | sure we can build w/o the patches for now for the PPA but it would be nice to just get the new version into raring directly | 22:06 |
| ricotz | jbicha, what i am saying is the patches are obsolete or upstreamed | 22:06 |
| ricotz | but you will need a libcolord-common package | 22:07 |
| ricotz | for the new files | 22:07 |
| ricotz | usr/share/colord/* | 22:07 |
| ricotz | usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.freedesktop.ColorHelper.gschema.xml | 22:07 |
| ricotz | and one new header usr/include/colord-1/colord-session/cd-session.h | 22:08 |
| ricotz | jbicha, i guess i can push that package to staging too | 22:14 |
| jbicha | ricotz: sure go for it | 22:18 |
| jbicha | I wasn't sure about whether Ubuntu wanted those sane patches but whatever | 22:18 |
| ricotz | jbicha, will be here https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/staging/+packages | 22:20 |
| ricotz | gnome-desktop3 dropped a symbol so there might be another soname bump, or they just going to ignore it while this symbols wasnt suppose to be exported at all | 22:22 |
| ricotz | jbicha, i won't upload g-c-c, i don't have time and some patches needs a refresh | 22:33 |
| ricotz | darkxst, so does it work? | 22:37 |
| darkxst | oh its built already? I will test | 22:38 |
| ricotz | ;) | 22:38 |
| ricotz | no g-c-c though | 22:38 |
| r4y | Wasn't there a Ubuntu 12.04 of this version?, and if so is it a Long Term release? | 22:46 |
| r4y | And is there a torrent for it? | 22:47 |
| r4y | http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/home/ | 22:48 |
| r4y | See it says 12.04 | 22:48 |
| darkxst | ricotz, yeh works | 22:49 |
| darkxst | r4y, that was a different project | 22:49 |
| r4y | Ah, sorry I didn't know | 22:49 |
| r4y | Thank youfor the help | 22:49 |
| jbicha | ricotz: ok I'll look at that tonight, thanks | 22:50 |
| ricotz | darkxst, good | 22:51 |
| darkxst | r4y, gnome-shell should work fine on the normal ubuntu 12.04 | 22:51 |
| ricotz | jbicha, alright | 22:51 |
| ricotz | jbicha, will put a tarball here http://people.ubuntu.com/~ricotz/g-c-c | 22:52 |
| r4y | You mean the Ubuntu 12.04 with nity that has installable gnome-shell?, because I didn't like it | 22:52 |
| darkxst | r4y, yes | 22:53 |
| darkxst | r4y, change theme to 'Adwaita' | 22:53 |
| r4y | LOL, I am running Ubuntu 10.04 right now | 22:53 |
| r4y | http://imagebin.org/244727 | 22:55 |
| r4y | Nothing special but that's my current setup I like | 22:56 |
| darkxst | r4y, I guess you might like the new classic mode that is coming then in g-s 3.8 http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/ | 22:58 |
| r4y | I should bookmark just in case TY for the link | 22:59 |
| jbicha | derivatives often opt out of LTS-length support | 23:00 |
| r4y | What about that command?, I mean is it usable in the normal Ubuntu 12.04? | 23:02 |
| r4y | Or? | 23:02 |
| darkxst | r4y, no | 23:03 |
| r4y | OK, so I would use the Ubuntu GNOME Shell Remix for this then? | 23:04 |
| r4y | Wait a minute | 23:05 |
| r4y | you said this is a different project | 23:05 |
| r4y | is this project without the word shell? | 23:05 |
| darkxst | yeh | 23:06 |
| r4y | I don't understand the difference though | 23:06 |
| darkxst | but classic mode is very new and still under development, if you are the type that sticks to LTS releases, then its probably best to wait | 23:07 |
| r4y | When you say wait, do you mean for normal Ubuntu 14.04 when it is released? or? | 23:08 |
| r4y | I am sorry, lol | 23:08 |
| r4y | OK< wait for classic to get better, not for Ubuntu 14 I am guessing | 23:10 |
| darkxst | r4y, yes atleast wait for gnome-shell 3.8 release | 23:10 |
| r4y | Ah, TY | 23:10 |
| r4y | I think I understand now, thank you very much for the help | 23:13 |
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