| === Makyo is now known as Makyo|out | ||
| benji | gary_poster: ...and we're back | 13:50 |
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| gary_poster | benji, none the worse for wear? any idea what went wrong? | 13:51 |
| benji | my machine wasn't aknowleging that any USB devices exist; lots of things are usb, like WiFi and keyboards and other important things | 13:51 |
| gary_poster | frankban, did you have plans as to what PPA to use for the haproxy? I was thinking a juju-gui PPA might be good fwiw | 13:52 |
| gary_poster | benji, so what did you do? Did you have to perform the Sacred Rite of Beseeching the USB Gods to Intervene, involving bananas and chocolate sauce? | 13:53 |
| benji | I think it was yesterday's update that got me. After connecting an ethernet cable directly into my cable modem I was able to get a kernel update and it was happy after that. | 13:53 |
| benji | And what you said. | 13:53 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 13:53 |
| gary_poster | cool | 13:53 |
| benji | mmm, that makes me think of the fried banannas in the Thai place in Fredericksburg | 13:54 |
| gary_poster | heh | 13:54 |
| gary_poster | teknico, submitted code review of your branch; trying it out now in practice | 13:55 |
| frankban | gary_poster: I am testing with my own PPA. IIRC, in launchpad is quite easy to move a package from one PPA to another. +1 on juju-gui PPA | 14:07 |
| gary_poster | cool frankban, sounds good | 14:07 |
| teknico | gary_poster, thanks for the reviews and the comments. I implemented your suggestions and proposed again | 15:03 |
| gary_poster | great teknico. would you like a follow-up? | 15:03 |
| teknico | gary_poster, yes, thanks | 15:05 |
| teknico | gary_poster, as far as linking the code docs from the project ones goes, I feel I'm missing something simple | 15:05 |
| gary_poster | teknico, ack. I'm guessing simple links like ../../../ don't work. Even if they did, they are fragile. I suppose we could also make a symlink from the yuidocs to within the html output, as part of the doc makefile? | 15:06 |
| teknico | gary_poster, yes, I guess going up the dir tree would be fragile, but I can't even come up with a syntax for it :-) | 15:07 |
| gary_poster | heh | 15:07 |
| teknico | gary_poster, on the other hand, the symlink is the simple thing that I was missing :-) | 15:07 |
| gary_poster | :-) cool | 15:07 |
| teknico | gary_poster, uhm, no, not really. how do I express "current dir" with a file:// URL? is it even possible? | 15:12 |
| bac | benji: when you were investigating saucelabs did you encounter any mention of capybara as an abstraction above the web drivers? | 15:12 |
| benji | bac: nope, what does it do? | 15:13 |
| gary_poster | teknico IME you are already in the file:// namespace, so relative links work great | 15:13 |
| teknico | without protocol qualifier? ok, I'll try it | 15:13 |
| bac | benji: it is a more abstract way to express the tests rather than using the web driver. i just watched the 'retrofitting an existing web app with selenium' talk and he was really in favor of it. | 15:14 |
| bac | benji: i can't tell if it is too ruby-centric, though. | 15:14 |
| bac | benji: actually it is called "Better Late Than Never: Integrating Selenium After The Fact" | 15:14 |
| benji | bac: I'm looking for info about it now. If it requires a language other than a real programming language to describe the tests, I would be very skeptical. | 15:15 |
| benji | I'll take a look. | 15:15 |
| bac | benji: it is pretty unreal | 15:17 |
| benji | Capybara appears to be Ruby-only. | 15:19 |
| teknico | with "py" in the name?!? appropriation! mistification! sacrilege! | 15:19 |
| benji | all my future python projects will include references to precious stones in order to confuse rubyists | 15:20 |
| teknico | that'll teach them ;-) | 15:21 |
| === Makyo|out is now known as Makyo | ||
| frankban | gary_poster: do you have a minute, after the call, for a quick hangout? | 15:29 |
| gary_poster | frankban, y | 15:29 |
| frankban | gary_poster: thanks | 15:30 |
| gary_poster | bac benji bcsaller1 hazmat frankban Makyo teknico goodspud call now :-P | 15:30 |
| * hazmat plays hangout ping-pong | 15:35 | |
| benji | grr, my two factor auth is screwed up again | 15:43 |
| gary_poster | teknico, juju-ui? | 15:51 |
| teknico | gary_poster, yep | 15:51 |
| gary_poster | bac, juju-ui? | 16:04 |
| gary_poster | teknico, don't hate me for abusing your poor code review :-D | 16:58 |
| gary_poster | which is to say, sorry | 16:58 |
| teknico | gary_poster, no worries :-) | 16:59 |
| Makyo | Better to ask forgiveness, etc. :) | 16:59 |
| gary_poster | :-) exactly Makyo, thank you teknico | 17:00 |
| gary_poster | didn't work :-/ | 17:30 |
| gary_poster | no dkim from rietveld, despite google connections, unfortunately | 17:31 |
| gary_poster | if we had it, it would work | 17:31 |
| gary_poster | but no biggie | 17:31 |
| * gary_poster goes to lunch | 17:31 | |
| teknico | gary_poster, landing my branch, could not use the symlink but had to go for the fragile link solution | 17:56 |
| teknico | gary_poster, also changed the Makefile doc targets and added a few, I remain awaiting the flames ;-P | 17:57 |
| gary_poster | teknico, heh, ok thanks. have a good evening | 18:16 |
| benji | does anyone that is around know how long the charm usually takes to start? | 18:28 |
| benji | it finally started, so I guess the answer is "five minutes longer than you are willing to wait" | 18:35 |
| gary_poster | benji how long did it take you? My experience is 10-15 minutes IIRC | 18:38 |
| benji | gary_poster: that's in the range, I was pretty bored waiting so I don't know for sure | 18:40 |
| gary_poster | :-) k | 18:41 |
| gary_poster | benji, would you agree that it would be a valuable task to teach the charm how to start and expose the test server? | 18:50 |
| gary_poster | Then we would be able to write a selenium test against that, to run unit tests on different browsers | 18:51 |
| benji | gary_poster: yep (we may do something else in addition, of course; but having an easy way to say "oh, run the unit tests too" would be a big win) | 18:51 |
| gary_poster | cool | 18:51 |
| gary_poster | Makyo, if you are looking for something to do at some point let me know. I have something that would be probably fast for you, and less so for others | 19:17 |
| Makyo | gary_poster, Alright. Halfway done with #1099921. | 19:18 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1099921: Dragging services fails intermittently <juju-gui:Triaged> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/1099921 > | 19:18 |
| gary_poster | Awesome Makyo! | 19:18 |
| benji | bac: I am trying to remember how we got around SSH's fingerprint verification prompts from Juju. Was the best we came up with setting UserKnownHostsFile and StrictHostKeyChecking in .ssh/config? | 21:44 |
| bac | benji: i thought we just used the appropriate command line switch to tell it to leave us alone. | 21:44 |
| bac | benji: a quick look at the buildbot charm should show, no? | 21:45 |
| benji | bac: if we are directly using SSH that works, but this is Juju envoking SSH on our behalf | 21:45 |
| benji | bac: good idea | 21:45 |
| bac | oh yeas | 21:45 |
| * Makyo dogwalk. | 21:50 | |
| benji | bac: I haven't attained enlightenment. (but I have been reminded how many moving parts that project had) | 21:57 |
| bac | amazing, huh | 21:57 |
| hazmat | benji, that's one way.. | 22:05 |
| hazmat | benji, it was actually in juju for a little while before people freaked out about the security implications ;-) | 22:05 |
| hazmat | so now everyone does it individually.. and blindly says yes.. which is not really an improvement | 22:06 |
| hazmat | gojuju ends up doing tls with certs to avoid this fwiw | 22:06 |
| hazmat | ie, they pass the server cert down via user data, its an insecure channel.. but its effectively the only proc against the pristine image. | 22:07 |
| hazmat | digression | 22:07 |
| benji | I could have sworn we found a better way, but I can't remember/find it now. Maybe it will come to me later. | 22:07 |
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