| === jackyalcine_ is now known as jalcine | ||
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yes | 05:06 |
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| shadeslayer | I rage quit last night, got too annoyed :P | 05:07 |
| shadeslayer | next UDS in Oakland, CA | 05:08 |
| ScottK | I'm as excited about going there again as I was the first time. | 05:35 |
| shadeslayer | I'm guessing that code for "Not alot" | 05:40 |
| shadeslayer | *thats | 05:40 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 05:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | hello everyone | 06:31 |
| shadeslayer | hi phoenix_firebrd | 06:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: good morning | 06:32 |
| shadeslayer | good morning to you as well :) | 06:32 |
| shadeslayer | who can test some precise stuff? | 06:38 |
| shadeslayer | X fails on precise when using qemu :( | 06:39 |
| shadeslayer | and bug 1093220 needs verification | 06:39 |
| ubottu | bug 1093220 in transmission (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] Fix transmission-qt to open magnet links from a browser" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093220 | 06:39 |
| Noskcaj | ScottK, bug 1066225 has a new comment for you | 09:12 |
| ubottu | bug 1066225 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt home folder needs to be checkbox not radio button" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066225 | 09:12 |
| shadeslayer | does it make sense to encrypt the home folder and have autologin enabled? | 09:29 |
| shadeslayer | I mean, the entire point of having encrypted data is that if someone gains physical access to your machine your data is safe ( assuming they cannot crack the key ) | 09:30 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: in that case using kwallet is also vulnerable | 09:33 |
| shadeslayer | not exactly, your kwallet password is not associated with your login password | 09:33 |
| * shadeslayer uses crazy levels of encryption | 09:34 | |
| shadeslayer | I have full disk encryption as well as /home encryption setup | 09:35 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: ya, thats right, but why kwallet manager doesnt seek password when kwallet was opened previously for other use | 09:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: I dont encrypt my disk , because i am afraid i may not be able to recover data in case of a filesystem error | 09:36 |
| shadeslayer | yep, that's a huge issue | 09:37 |
| shadeslayer | which is why, unencrypted backups | 09:37 |
| shadeslayer | which travel with me :P | 09:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: thats a vulnerability :) | 09:37 |
| shadeslayer | I know :) | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | the biggest risk is my ssh and gpg keys, which do not have a backup | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | primarily because I have no good way to back them up | 09:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: "donot ask password" for screen locker is not working? | 09:38 |
| shadeslayer | whut | 09:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: is the new screen locker working for you? | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | ctrl-alt-l locks the screen | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | that's about all I tested | 09:41 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: does it ask for the password everytime? | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | well | 09:41 |
| shadeslayer | that's intended behaviour | 09:42 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: no | 09:42 |
| shadeslayer | I specifically asked it to lock the screen, so it should ask my password | 09:42 |
| shadeslayer | what else would it do | 09:42 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: "the option require password after" is disabled for me and it asks for the password after i immediately try to unlock | 09:43 |
| phoenix_firebrd | let me confirm it one more time | 09:43 |
| shadeslayer | where is this option? 0..o | 09:44 |
| yofel_ | screensaver | 09:44 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| phoenix_firebrd | screen locker | 09:44 |
| yofel | oh, they renamed the menu | 09:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: inside display and monitor settings | 09:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: i am using 12.10 | 09:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: hi | 09:45 |
| yofel | hey | 09:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: today 4.10 sc tagging? | 09:46 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: anyway, I did notice there was somthing funky about that menu | 09:46 |
| shadeslayer | I have no idea where this kcm is | 09:46 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: menu? | 09:46 |
| shadeslayer | give me the kcm module name | 09:46 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: no idea, but it's in the display settings | 09:46 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: can the see the display and monitor settings? | 09:46 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: well, that was the screensaver kcm before | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | this ? http://i.imgur.com/BHRRto0.png | 09:47 |
| yofel | right | 09:47 |
| yofel | disable the 2nd checkbox | 09:47 |
| yofel | I think it has no effect | 09:47 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: thats it | 09:47 |
| yofel | or at least it doesn't work reliably | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | funny thing | 09:47 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: the second options is the one i am talking about | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | click "Screen Saver" | 09:47 |
| yofel | but I know they fixed a bunch of locker issues recently | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | and the monitor turns blue | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | click "Simple locker" and it stays blue | 09:48 |
| yofel | true o.O | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | heheh | 09:48 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-cvs-announce/2013/000105.html | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | iirc tagging freeze is in effect no? | 09:48 |
| yofel | so work starts tomorrow | 09:48 |
| yofel | I'll fire the cronjob up later for the stats | 09:49 |
| yofel | it is | 09:49 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: but who cares about it? | 09:49 |
| shadeslayer | well | 09:49 |
| shadeslayer | tsdegos got pissed when I merged to okular extractor | 09:49 |
| shadeslayer | so I'm not going to piss him off again :P | 09:49 |
| shadeslayer | I'll just file a bug | 09:49 |
| yofel | heh | 09:49 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 09:50 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: In case my project is using automake i wont be needing to add rules for clean, build and install in debian/rules right? | 09:56 |
| yofel | ok wait, I'll elaborate on that | 09:56 |
| yofel | you know how gnu make works? (roughly?) | 09:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: cmake configures with the make files and make buuilds the project with that | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | what was the Product for the screenlocker again :| | 09:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | :) | 09:57 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: kscreensaver I believe | 09:57 |
| shadeslayer | thx | 09:58 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: ok, so let's talk about make first | 09:58 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 09:58 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: make is originally meant for building source code. It's usefullness comes from being able to determine what files have changed and only rebuilding what needs to be built | 09:58 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 09:59 |
| yofel | it does that by defining make "targets" that have dependencies and commands that are needed to build it | 09:59 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: wait | 09:59 |
| phoenix_firebrd | targets is key waord? | 09:59 |
| phoenix_firebrd | targets is key word? | 10:00 |
| yofel | no | 10:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: the output? | 10:00 |
| yofel | a target is something like: | 10:00 |
| yofel | targetname: dep | 10:00 |
| yofel | commandlist | 10:00 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: give me an example | 10:00 |
| shadeslayer | done, kde bug 314122 | 10:01 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 314122 in locker "Monitor is not turned 'off'" [Normal,Confirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314122 | 10:01 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: http://paste.kde.org/659828 | 10:01 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: so to build the "build" target, the configure target has to be finished | 10:02 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 10:02 |
| yofel | now, the reason I run "touch" there, is because usually the targets are the filenames of the source you want to build | 10:03 |
| yofel | so if a file changes, it's target and all targets that depend on it will run | 10:03 |
| yofel | that's how make works... roughly | 10:03 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: doubt | 10:03 |
| yofel | hm? | 10:03 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: if you say that this is the label that points to build "build:" then what does this do "DEB_MAKE_BUILD_TARGET:" ? | 10:05 |
| yofel | what's DEB_MAKE_BUILD_TARGET? | 10:05 |
| yofel | just going by make syntax, DEB_MAKE_BUILD_TARGET would be the name of the target | 10:05 |
| yofel | i.e. the name would literally be "DEB_MAKE_BUILD_TARGET" | 10:06 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: can you pulll-lp tomboy-blogposter | 10:06 |
| yofel | oh, :=, that's a variable definition, but we'll come to that ^ example in a bit | 10:07 |
| yofel | now back to rules | 10:07 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok' | 10:07 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 10:08 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: http://pike.psu.edu/dongwon/pro/grannies.pdf | 10:08 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: o.O (I'll read it later...) | 10:08 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: in US too? | 10:09 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: it's a worldwide phenomenon | 10:09 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ha ha ha | 10:09 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: so, as making deb packages is a slighly complex process, we have a program called debhelper with perl scripts called dh_* that does most of the work for us | 10:09 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:09 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: back in dh 6 and early 7 days, a rules file would look like this: http://paste.kde.org/659858 | 10:10 |
| * shadeslayer is scared to click that link | 10:10 | |
| yofel | which is gnu make taken too perfection | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | oh heh | 10:10 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: it's a clean rules file, nothing scary ;) | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | btw you should show him a cdbs file | 10:10 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that's next | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 10:10 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: as his example above uses that :P | 10:10 |
| shadeslayer | I joined just as cdbs was dying | 10:11 |
| shadeslayer | trolololol | 10:11 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: so, as you can see it's not really the most easiest, not the most readable way of doing it | 10:11 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: + you had to be very careful to not mistake the sequencing | 10:11 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: to help with that people went and wrote supplementary build systems, like cdbs | 10:11 |
| phoenix_firebrd | came across that | 10:12 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: if you look at your tomboy rules, you'll see that it has include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/... | 10:12 |
| yofel | so it uses cdbs | 10:12 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: your sync is bad : https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyside/1.1.2-1 | 10:12 |
| phoenix_firebrd | wait, checking | 10:12 |
| shadeslayer | makes pyside completely disappear for some reason | 10:12 |
| yofel | the advantage: the sequencing is done in the build system, and you just have to set some configuration variables like DEB_MAKE_BUILD_TARGET | 10:12 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: which makes rules a lot simpler as you can see | 10:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:14 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: where to specify the type of build system/version i am using | 10:14 |
| yofel | by "include"-ing the buildsystem makefile you want to use | 10:15 |
| yofel | now, next | 10:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:15 |
| yofel | since debhelper 7.0.51 or whatever, debhelper got it's own auto-sequencer called "dh", which is what's most people use today | 10:16 |
| jussi | argh | 10:16 |
| phoenix_firebrd | those are perl scripts right? | 10:17 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ^ | 10:17 |
| yofel | ah wait, a bit of clarification | 10:17 |
| jussi | consistent LO crashing, and calligra screws up the formatting :( | 10:17 |
| yofel | even cdbs used those scripts | 10:17 |
| yofel | it's just the content of the makefile that you saw above ^ | 10:17 |
| yofel | that was moved to the build system, so you don't need to write the build: install: etc. targets | 10:18 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:18 |
| yofel | debhelper provided the dh_install, dh_auto_configure, and whatever else scripts | 10:18 |
| yofel | and it does today too | 10:18 |
| yofel | with dh7, we gained a "dh" script, which does the sequencing of the rules file inside debhelper | 10:19 |
| yofel | so most rules file's today look like this: http://paste.kde.org/659864 | 10:19 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: so if i am not using cdbs i dont need install: build: .. in rules ? | 10:19 |
| yofel | if you use cdbs you don't need it | 10:19 |
| yofel | the long rules example I showed above was a dh6 example without any build system | 10:19 |
| yofel | tomboy uses a cdbs file | 10:20 |
| yofel | http://paste.kde.org/659864 is modern dh7 style | 10:20 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: the version 0.4.4 changed to automake so the rules have to be updated , probably the cdbs have to be removed | 10:20 |
| yofel | not really, cdbs and automake are 2 different thigns | 10:20 |
| yofel | for now I'm not going to talk about autotools | 10:21 |
| yofel | back to dh7 | 10:21 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: this is the min that has to be in the rules file for the new type http://paste.kde.org/659864 ? | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ objcopy:debian/firefox/usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so[.debug_info]: Memory exhausted | 10:21 |
| shadeslayer | I guess I'll just upload it to the PPA and fix | 10:22 |
| yofel | yes, unless you need adjustments for the package, that alone will already work | 10:22 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:22 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: so, as you saw in the dh6 example, rules was a long list of dh_* commands | 10:22 |
| yofel | in dh7, "dh" runs those commands, so we don't need to write them ourselves | 10:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: dh6= http://paste.kde.org/659858/ ? | 10:23 |
| yofel | yes | 10:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:23 |
| yofel | now, if we need to tell one of those commands that we need to do something different | 10:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: overriding ? | 10:23 |
| yofel | like, dh_clean needs to remove a few more files | 10:23 |
| yofel | we'll override the command right | 10:24 |
| yofel | like this: http://paste.kde.org/659870 | 10:24 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: who decides what to be put in ch_clean, the original maintainer or the packager? | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | yay | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | I have more bandwidth now | 10:25 |
| yofel | that essentially replaces the "dh_auto_clean" command in dh, with the list of commands inside the override target | 10:25 |
| shadeslayer | 2 Mbps | 10:25 |
| phoenix_firebrd | *dh_clean | 10:25 |
| yofel | (that's why you're calling dh_auto_clean there too) | 10:25 |
| * shadeslayer downloads shank | 10:25 | |
| yofel | an empty override_dh_auto_clean: target would simply disable dh_auto_clean | 10:26 |
| yofel | (we often do that for dh_auto_test ;) ) | 10:26 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:26 |
| phoenix_firebrd | junk is a user variable? | 10:26 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: any packager that works on the package may change the rules file as needed | 10:26 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: well, it's something, maybe the program makefile creates it. but dh_auto_clean has a fixed pattern that it deletes | 10:27 |
| yofel | so if you need to remove anything else you need to tell it to | 10:27 |
| phoenix_firebrd | junk is a keyword? | 10:28 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: for packaging, you're free to change what you want, but if the package has a maintainer that's not you, do talk to that person/team whether your changes are fine and ask for a review | 10:28 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: no, junk is a filename, this is literally "rm junk" in your shell | 10:28 |
| yofel | inside a make target you define simply shell commands | 10:28 |
| phoenix_firebrd | oh ok | 10:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:29 |
| yofel | type dh_<tab><tab> in your shell, you'll see all of the debhelper stuff | 10:29 |
| yofel | as those are simply exectuable perl scripts | 10:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | checking | 10:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | got a list | 10:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | nice | 10:29 |
| yofel | ok, so that's the basics of rules that you see today, dh6 style is deprecated. If you don't need anything else use the simple dh7 style | 10:30 |
| phoenix_firebrd | so it is necessary to specify the debhelper version >=7 right? | 10:30 |
| yofel | if you still need something special that dh7 can't do, or is hard to use for, you another buildsystem | 10:30 |
| yofel | for example our KDE SC packages use the "dhmk" build system from pkg-kde-tools | 10:31 |
| phoenix_firebrd | what is script-kiddy? | 10:31 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: that, and you'll need to put the version of debhelper your packaging works with into debian/compat | 10:31 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: wait | 10:32 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: it's a script for translations stuff | 10:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 10:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 10:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | what is debian/source/format for? | 10:33 |
| shadeslayer | read the manual :P | 10:33 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 10:33 |
| phoenix_firebrd | just this once, where can i specify the quilt version tghat i am using? | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | you don't specify a quilt version | 10:34 |
| shadeslayer | quilt is version agnostic? | 10:34 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: the tutor said something about that yesterday | 10:35 |
| phoenix_firebrd | let me check | 10:35 |
| shadeslayer | can you grab me a quote? | 10:35 |
| yofel | er, you don't need to do that these days usually | 10:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | thats it ,its the debian/source/format | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | ahhh | 10:36 |
| yofel | there is one release that needs a manual quilt dep for 3.0 quilt and where lintian throws a warning if the version is missing | 10:36 |
| shadeslayer | okay so there are 2 formats, native and quilt | 10:36 |
| * yofel passes the micro to shadeslayer | 10:36 | |
| yofel | need to do something else for a while | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | the format file is to specify which format dh will use | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | micro? :P | 10:37 |
| yofel | keyboard | 10:37 |
| phoenix_firebrd | format of? | 10:37 |
| yofel | voice, whatever :P | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | micro keyboard? | 10:37 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 10:37 |
| yofel | lol | 10:37 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: format of source package | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | phoenix_firebrd: format of the source package | 10:39 |
| yofel | anyway, dpkg-source manpage explains all formats too. (ignore 2.0, that's not used) | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 10:39 |
| shadeslayer | "Also known as wig&pen." | 10:40 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 10:40 |
| jussi | So we are all aware the kde dalogs induce a nice LO crash? or was it only on 4.9.4 ? | 10:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: are you working form a desktop or a laptop? | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | laptop | 10:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | shadeslayer: ok | 10:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: does your pbuilder check for updates everytime? | 10:47 |
| yofel | yes | 10:47 |
| yofel | if you're really low on bandwidth you can disable that | 10:48 |
| yofel | remove the executable bit from the 2 apt hooks | 10:48 |
| yofel | but then remember to keep your raring pbuilder updated | 10:48 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: sure | 10:48 |
| apachelogger | yofel: do we have a kcm that is python3? | 10:49 |
| yofel | no idea, we couldn't really test that witout a working kcm backend... | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | lol? | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | python3 randomfile.py | 10:50 |
| apachelogger | ? | 10:50 |
| yofel | if nobody ported one, then no | 10:50 |
| yofel | I tried myself on synaptiks, but that didn't go too well | 10:51 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | yofel: got time to recompile pykde? | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | on which system did I work on the broken kcm Oo | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | my workstation does not even have pykde > 4.9 | 11:17 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello world, I just received an update for jockey, and I was just curious, what's new in it? I think I remember seeing in the kubuntu devel mail list that jockey is to be replaced by something else. Is that true? If yes, how's that going? | 11:20 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna ^^ | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/659936/ | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | I'd first run that by someone who cares, the global interpreter lock thing makes no sense to me | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | though that patch definitelyw orks | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | found the right VM again | 11:22 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I'll try that once I'm at home, here I'm on quantal | 11:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | one sugestion: can it be implemented in the Kmenu, on the bottom right, next to the kubuntu logo to also say the kubuntu version? it would be a lot easier for new users to figure this out | 11:37 |
| vassie | Riddell: good morning | 11:38 |
| vassie | Riddell: been thinking about the cantata "not is users group" message, personally i think it should stay, being in that group does have it benefits, however if you don't want/need to be in it, tick the box and hide the message | 11:40 |
| Riddell | hi vassie, ok you're the packager :) | 11:41 |
| vassie | Riddell: :) | 11:41 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: yes I'd be interested in something like that but probably not somewhere as intrusive as the kmenu | 11:42 |
| Riddell | vassie: did you look at a watch file? | 11:42 |
| vassie | Riddell: still not sure what to do with the watch file | 11:42 |
| Riddell | make one that points at the download page | 11:42 |
| vassie | and put it where? | 11:42 |
| vassie | is there an example of one i can use? | 11:43 |
| Riddell | vassie: I suggested owncloud | 11:43 |
| vassie | from the deb? | 11:44 |
| Riddell | apt-get source owncloud | 11:44 |
| vassie | ok, got it, do i need to modify it and rebuild my package? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | just a random suggestion though, you might want to look at a package which is hosted on google code | 11:46 |
| Riddell | modity it and test it :) | 11:46 |
| vassie | http://code.google.com/p/cantata/downloads/list | 11:47 |
| vassie | is there an example i can use? | 11:47 |
| Riddell | that looks like a good page | 11:47 |
| Riddell | try modifying the owncloud one | 11:48 |
| BluesKaj | Hey all | 11:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: on the bottom of the Kmenu, right where the User's full name and host name is, | 11:50 |
| vassie | http://pastebin.com/J57bM94a | 11:51 |
| Riddell | golly that looks complex | 11:53 |
| Riddell | vassie: tested it? | 11:53 |
| vassie | copy one from a program that was hosted on good code | 11:53 |
| vassie | how do i test? | 11:54 |
| Riddell | put it in a copy of the package sources and run uscan | 11:55 |
| vassie | k, need to power on my vm, might be on my desktop at home actually, this might take a while | 11:56 |
| Riddell | vassie: you can ask me for an ec2 if that helps | 11:56 |
| vassie | thanks, but will i have to build my package from scratch? | 11:57 |
| Riddell | vassie: you don't have to build anything, you just need the package source (which you can download from your PPA on launchpad) | 11:57 |
| BluesKaj | vassie, I have Cantata running ok , just have to configure mpd to startup at boot | 11:58 |
| vassie | got my source, added my current key to my ppa | 11:59 |
| vassie | ran uscan, nothing came back | 12:08 |
| Riddell | vassie: I get "uscan ERROR: debian/watch version number is unrecognised; skipping watchfile" | 12:10 |
| Riddell | so it doesn't like that one | 12:10 |
| vassie | change version=1 to version=3 | 12:10 |
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| vassie | BluesKaj: i add "mpd" to ~/.xprofile so it starts on login | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer | oh grrr | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: how do I make some code execute once a page has been loaded in ubiquity? | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | i.e. once the event loop is running | 12:20 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: i'm not sure what you mean. | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | well | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | in order to get the devices Phonon needs an event loop running | 12:21 |
| Riddell | vassie: try kmediafactory maybe | 12:22 |
| vassie | i did, that is where i got it from | 12:23 |
| vassie | i changed 1 to 3 and i don't get an error now | 12:24 |
| Riddell | vassie: if you run uscan --verbose does it say useful things? | 12:24 |
| vassie | Newest version on remote site is 0.9.2, local version is 0.9.2 | 12:25 |
| Riddell | groovy | 12:25 |
| Riddell | vassie: so are we ready to upload? | 12:25 |
| vassie | i'm happy with it | 12:26 |
| vassie | :) | 12:26 |
| vassie | quantal and raring? | 12:26 |
| Riddell | just raring | 12:26 |
| Riddell | point me at the files to upload | 12:26 |
| vassie | can it be backported? | 12:26 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: right, but when event loop is running, that means python code is not executed sequentially any more, only callbacks are called..... | 12:27 |
| Riddell | yes, we can either put it into kubuntu-ppa/backports or once its in raring go through the proccess for the ubunut backports | 12:27 |
| vassie | Do you need my new cantata_0.9.2-0ubuntu3~ubuntu12.10~ppa1.debian.tar.gz? | 12:27 |
| vassie | and raring package? | 12:27 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: so in your __init__ or in your prepare funtions you need to setup callbacks that phonon will call if it finds or doesn't find a camera. | 12:27 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 12:28 |
| Riddell | vassie: yep | 12:29 |
| vassie | Riddell: ok, i need to sign them as i rebuilt my tar.gz, plus i need my raring VM, which is at home | 12:29 |
| Riddell | vassie: no you don't | 12:30 |
| Riddell | I need to sign them when I upload them, you don't have permission to upload to the ubuntu archive so your signature won't do anything | 12:30 |
| Riddell | vassie: just point me at what needs uploading | 12:30 |
| vassie | both packages are on my ppa https://launchpad.net/~vassie/+archive/ppa | 12:31 |
| vassie | watch file http://pastebin.com/J57bM94a (change version=1 to version=3) | 12:32 |
| Riddell | vassie: 0.9.2-0ubuntu3~ppa2 ? | 12:32 |
| vassie | i can't download my raring package right now as i am on quantal | 12:32 |
| Riddell | you can download whatever you like, this is free software :) | 12:33 |
| vassie | that is my raring package, minus the watch file | 12:33 |
| Riddell | http://ppa.launchpad.net/vassie/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/c/cantata/ wget is your friend :) | 12:33 |
| Riddell | I got it now | 12:33 |
| Riddell | vassie: uploaded! | 12:36 |
| Riddell | it should appear at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue soon | 12:36 |
| vassie | :) | 12:36 |
| vassie | sweet | 12:37 |
| Riddell | vassie: and now you need to wait for an archive admin to accept it, happens the first time you load anything | 12:37 |
| vassie | Riddell: awesome, i'll sit tight | 12:37 |
| Riddell | vassie: in the mean time there's plenty more to do, rekonq, libmtp etc :) | 12:38 |
| vassie | Riddell: will the quantal package go to ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports? | 12:38 |
| Riddell | also 4.10 is being tagged tonight so that's the big one | 12:38 |
| Riddell | vassie: yeah can do, point me at what to upload there | 12:38 |
| vassie | Riddell: https://www.box.com/s/6bnjtzqkvvm6lhmdavvk | 12:40 |
| Riddell | vassie: uploaded! | 12:44 |
| vassie | :) | 12:44 |
| vassie | thank you | 12:44 |
| vassie | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=cantata | 12:46 |
| Riddell | vassie: I just rejected it cos I noticed the control file needed some tidying | 12:46 |
| Riddell | vassie: I've reuploaded with the tidying | 12:46 |
| vassie | oh, ok | 12:46 |
| Riddell | you hadn't give na description and it needed word warp on the long description | 12:47 |
| vassie | oh right, sorry | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: is the event loop running when plugin_get_current_page is called? | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | or is it run right after plugin_get_current_page ? | 12:58 |
| * apachelogger pokes shadeslayer with a long stick | 13:02 | |
| shadeslayer | ? | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | it does not matter | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | change line order and suddenly you have no eventloop where you had one before | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | use the qevent functions | 13:03 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: look into run_main_loop / quit_main_loop. We stop mainloop between the pages, when we start mainloop again, you don't have any flow control at all. You are just hoping that an event/signal/handler is triggered by Qt and possible calls your callbacks. | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | aha | 13:05 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: and you still didn't tell us what you are trying to achieve that brought you down the rabbit hole of main loops. | 13:05 |
| xnox | what are you trying to achieve? "I need to know X, I decided i can check it using Y and hence...." tells us the full story. maybe your first assumption is wrong..... | 13:05 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: Phonon needs event loops so that I can query for the video camera device list | 13:06 |
| xnox | and why do you need to query for the video camera device list? | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | to create a MediaSource? | 13:06 |
| xnox | (in gtk, widgets have on_realise callback, such that you can piggy back on to that to run some code when widgets are painted/actually created) | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | hm | 13:07 |
| xnox | shadeslayer: this has nothing to do with ubiquity, but rather python & qt. | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | right | 13:07 |
| * xnox doesn't do any python-qt work | 13:07 | |
| shadeslayer | hm | 13:08 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: hi! | 13:09 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you want to be an elite packager? | 13:09 |
| Riddell | oh well | 13:11 |
| vassie | Riddell: what happens when 0.9.3 is out? | 13:13 |
| Riddell | vassie: then you package it :) | 13:13 |
| vassie | Riddell: :) | 13:14 |
| BluesKaj | vassie, ok managed to fix the mpd startup problem. I ran sudo update-rc.d mpd enable , then updated rc.d . It connects to localhost | 13:15 |
| vassie | BluesKaj: great, everything working now? | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | yup . seems so , vassie , altho I haven;t tried the networking options and won't until my laptop is returned | 13:16 |
| vassie | BluesKaj: i store my music in ~/Music and use pulse | 13:17 |
| BluesKaj | yes I use pulse as well , I made a link to my music files on the external hdd to /var/lib/mpd/music/ | 13:20 |
| BluesKaj | vassie,^ | 13:20 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you want to be an elite packager? | 13:24 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, yeah:) | 13:24 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: got bored of Ubuntu Studio and want to do kubuntu? | 13:27 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, not exactly. Normally I do testing in Ubuntu Studio. I want to be involved in packaging, and that Kubuntu seems to have more opportunities for that. | 13:28 |
| Riddell | always welcomed :) | 13:28 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: want a simple task to start off with? | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, yep | 13:28 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: rekonq could do with an update | 13:28 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, ok | 13:29 |
| Riddell | yay :) | 13:29 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, so I just branch the main ~ubuntu-branches branch right?> | 13:30 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you can do use the UDD branches but I tihnk it's easier to just go apt-get source rekonq | 13:32 |
| Riddell | rekonq's packaging isn't in bzr | 13:32 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, oh no:P | 13:32 |
| Riddell | hi rgreening, how's the province? | 13:33 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: I'm assuming you've done this sort of thing before, have you? | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, yes (but I use UDD branches :P) | 13:34 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: well feel free to use them | 13:34 |
| Riddell | they're just too complex for me (and I used to develop on bzr and UDD :) | 13:34 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, lol | 13:34 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: let me know if you need any help | 13:38 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, ok:) | 13:38 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: pyside is somewhat broken and the sync was a (it turned out) unfounded hope to make thing better, but it certainly didn't make things worse. | 13:40 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: well ... idk what happened but in raring I can't install python3-pyside | 13:40 |
| ScottK | IIRC there's no binaries. | 13:41 |
| shadeslayer | but -release has binaries? | 13:41 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyside/1.1.1-3 | 13:41 |
| BluesKaj | rekonq still suffers from javascript problems , some game sites are freeezing | 13:43 |
| Riddell | best hope smartboyhw does this update | 13:44 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, halfway:) | 13:44 |
| apachelogger | xnox: how can one get the stdout output from a plugin? | 13:45 |
| xnox | it's in /var/log/installer/debug isn't it? | 13:45 |
| xnox | or syslog | 13:45 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: you're looking at uibiquity too? | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, help. I can't build the package since kdelibs5-dev has a dependency of libphonon-dev, but then libphonon-dev has a dependency of libphonon4 | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw | libphonon-dev : Depends: libphonon4 (= 4:4.7.0really4.6.0-0ubuntu2) but 4:4.7.0really4.6.0-0ubuntu2+nopulse1 is to be installed | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | xnox: found it, thx | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw | I don't think I have ppa's with this. | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: yeah -.- | 13:50 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: pastebin apt-cache policy libphonon-dev | 13:51 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: pastebin apt-cache policy libphonon4 | 13:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what are you looking at? | 13:51 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589659/ | 13:52 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you've installed that +nopulse1 version from somewhere | 13:53 |
| Riddell | a PPA you no longer use | 13:53 |
| Riddell | from KXStudio-Team Artwork and Metas owned by KXStudio Team says launchpad | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: same thing as shadeslayer | 13:54 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: wget the .deb from launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ | 13:54 |
| Riddell | and dpkg --install it | 13:55 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, ok (/me suddenly hates KXStudio) | 13:56 |
| Riddell | hmm, developer membership board elections | 13:58 |
| Riddell | ScottK: who do I want to vote for? | 13:58 |
| jussi | haha | 13:59 |
| ScottK | Who's running? | 13:59 |
| jussi | ScottK: is like the "brains trust" :D | 13:59 |
| ScottK | Apparently there's a mail I didn't get. | 13:59 |
| ScottK | I mean I know I'm running. | 13:59 |
| ScottK | Just not who else. | 13:59 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bdrung, coolbhavi, cody-somervile, xnox, laney, scottk, stgraber | 13:59 |
| ScottK | Some difficult choices there. | 14:00 |
| Riddell | scottk gets points for being a kuubntu homey, xnox for being friendly enough to hang around with us kubuntu homeys, stgraber for being french, laney for being a canoeist | 14:02 |
| Riddell | I don't think I know enough about the others to say what they get points for | 14:02 |
| xnox | I'm guessing coolbhavi, ScottK and I are the ones contesting against previously serving members of the developer membership board. | 14:04 |
| jussi | how many are needed? | 14:04 |
| ScottK | 4 | 14:04 |
| xnox | 4 are expiring. | 14:04 |
| ScottK | I finally got the mail. | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, good now I'm test-building the package:) | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, done. https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/ubuntu/raring/rekonq/new-version-2.1-0ubuntu1/+merge/145611 | 14:11 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: you're elite! | 14:13 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :) | 14:13 |
| Riddell | but that's a horrible diff, UDD fail :( | 14:16 |
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| Riddell | smartboyhw: you've tested it locally and it al runs fine? | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, should be.:) | 14:18 |
| smartboyhw | If it doesn't, then just ping me and I'll fix it:) | 14:19 |
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| smartboyhw | Sorry Riddell internet went haywire:) | 14:26 |
| jackyalcine | hey can have I have someone review this merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~jackyalcine/ubuntu/raring/telepathy-logger-qt/raring/+merge/145560 | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | Here comes jalcine:) | 14:30 |
| jackyalcine | hey smartboyhw | 14:35 |
| Riddell | hi jackyalcine | 14:40 |
| Riddell | will do that in a bit | 14:40 |
| snele | shadeslayer: you did great job with backporting 4.10 to precise. everything work well. thank you | 14:40 |
| jackyalcine | Riddell: thanks | 14:41 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: so have you built and run it locally? | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | snele: me and yofel :) | 14:43 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: what needs those cmake files? | 14:43 |
| snele | shadeslayer: yofel: you did great job with backporting 4.10 to precise. everything works well. thank you guys. you rock! | 14:44 |
| snele | :))) | 14:44 |
| jackyalcine | Riddell: anyone trying to build KDE IM from source. | 14:44 |
| jackyalcine | if telepathy-logger-qt was a part of kde-telepathy, I wouldn't have bothered | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | it is? | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | it's released as a part of kde-telepathy | 14:45 |
| Riddell | it's a separate source | 14:45 |
| jackyalcine | yup | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | well sure | 14:46 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, the app works | 14:46 |
| smartboyhw | More amazingly, it works in xfce (LOL) | 14:46 |
| shadeslayer | ahhh okay | 14:46 |
| jackyalcine | it makes me wonder, how does it build in bbuild without those CMake files? | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, jackyalcine told me to bzrignore the .pc files. | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | Should I upload a new -0ubuntu2 version then? | 14:47 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: I've updated the changelog to make it clearer "Fix .install file to provide valid CMake development files" | 14:47 |
| jackyalcine | you shouldn't have to, smartboyhw | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | jackyalcine, oh ok | 14:47 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: I'm ignoring them too | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, :) | 14:48 |
| jackyalcine | unless you ignored them specifically in that repository. | 14:48 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: you also want to become an elite kubuntu packager? | 14:48 |
| jackyalcine | Riddell: thanks, I did this at like 3:00 AM here in New York | 14:48 |
| jackyalcine | haven't slept until I got a response :) | 14:48 |
| jackyalcine | Riddell: I'd love to :D | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | jackyalcine, join the game with me:) | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | jackyalcine: because nothing deps on libtelepathy-logger-qt4-dev | 14:48 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: rekonq uploaded, welcome to the world of elite kubuntu packagers | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, wow!! :D | 14:49 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: telepathy-logger-qt, welcome to the world of elite kubuntu packagers | 14:49 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: telepathy-logger-qt uploaded, welcome to the world of elite kubuntu packagers | 14:49 |
| jackyalcine | haha thank you! | 14:49 |
| jackyalcine | shadeslayer: not yet, at least. | 14:49 |
| * jackyalcine is going to have fun. | 14:50 | |
| * smartboyhw is going to have fun too | 14:50 | |
| Riddell | we have more things needing an update for anyone interested, ktorrent and libmtp come to mind | 14:50 |
| jackyalcine | for raring? | 14:51 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: yep | 14:51 |
| jackyalcine | smartboyhw: you're looking at libmtp or ktorrent? | 14:54 |
| ScottK | ktorrent also has a libktorrent update that goes with it. | 14:55 |
| ScottK | See Debian experimental. | 14:55 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: take your pick I think | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | jackyalcine, your pick:P | 14:59 |
| jackyalcine | ScottK: I'd have to peek at the upstream packaging for ktorrent before making any changes? | 15:02 |
| Riddell | jackyalcine: you should always check debian first for updates | 15:03 |
| Riddell | ktorrent is just a sync I think so check they have the newer version and file a sync bug | 15:03 |
| * smartboyhw feels happy that at least the amd64 and i386 builds for rekonq is built successfully | 15:03 | |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, I think libmtp is also a sync bug..... | 15:04 |
| smartboyhw | Riddell, the newest version is already there in Raring, no need for libmtp updates I think | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | so updating/upgrading will bring the fixes into rekonq ? | 15:05 |
| BluesKaj | on raring | 15:06 |
| Riddell | smartboyhw: mm, then you might want to ask shadeslayer what he was on about when he asked :) | 15:07 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: well, 2.1 at least has a fixed history. I think they fixed plenty of other things too | 15:07 |
| BluesKaj | yofel, let's hope the javascipt troubles were addressed | 15:10 |
| BluesKaj | nope , rekonq still freezes on some online game sites , stops loading after 15 secs or so | 15:13 |
| BluesKaj | then the javascript error pops up after a min or so | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | BluesKaj, you mean the 2.1 version? | 15:15 |
| BluesKaj | oops nope the 2.0 , smartboyhw | 15:17 |
| smartboyhw | BluesKaj, LOL | 15:17 |
| smartboyhw | BluesKaj, activate -proposed and you should be able to upgrade (unless you are using -armhf) | 15:17 |
| shadeslayer | no no no | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | enabling proposed is a bad idea :P | 15:20 |
| BluesKaj | I was about to ask that question shadeslayer .;..had probs with it before | 15:20 |
| smartboyhw | shadeslayer, what about libmtp? The newest version is there already;P | 15:21 |
| shadeslayer | smartboyhw: right, but in general it'd be a good idea to have a look at the commits because for eg. my HTC One X is not supported from the last released version | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | but it works from git | 15:22 |
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| phoenix_firebrd | ~time | 16:52 |
| kubotu | Asia - Kolkata - Wed Jan 30 22:22 IST | 16:52 |
| Riddell | you clock is half an hour out :) | 16:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | you mean half an hour slow? | 17:05 |
| yofel | more like it's weird that you guys have an half an hour difference in your clock | 17:07 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ~time | 17:07 |
| kubotu | Asia - Kolkata - Wed Jan 30 22:37 IST | 17:07 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: the time is correct, i can't understand what you mean | 17:08 |
| yofel | it's :38 in india, but :08 here | 17:08 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ya the timezone is +5:30 | 17:08 |
| Riddell | which is unusual | 17:09 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 17:10 |
| tsimpson | timezones are weird | 17:10 |
| phoenix_firebrd | I should take a look at the map | 17:10 |
| shadeslayer | tsimpson: no people are weird | 17:10 |
| tsimpson | shadeslayer: people came up with timezones, so it only makes sense then | 17:11 |
| shadeslayer | just saying that timezones are not inherently weird | 17:11 |
| tsimpson | they are because they seem to be randomly placed | 17:12 |
| phoenix_firebrd | I am getting this error | 17:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | error CS0246: The type or namespace name `Gtk' could not be found. Are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference? | 17:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | Try using -pkg:gtk-sharp | 17:13 |
| phoenix_firebrd | I will paste the file in question | 17:14 |
| phoenix_firebrd | http://paste.kde.org/660698/ | 17:14 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: I'll agree that people are weird, but not because they invented timezones, but because they invented DST | 17:14 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | okay I have no idea why DST even exists | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | but it allowed me to sleep one more hour at UDS | 17:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: agreed | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | so yay | 17:15 |
| phoenix_firebrd | partial error log -> http://paste.kde.org/660704/ | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | bah, this rebase is screwed up | 17:15 |
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| phoenix_firebrd | i am trying to build tomboy-blogposter | 17:16 |
| Riddell | yofel: thanks for getting ready :) | 17:16 |
| yofel | sure | 17:16 |
| phoenix_firebrd | this is my current control file ->http://paste.kde.org/660710/ | 17:16 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: try adding gtk-sharp2 to build-deps? I really know nothing about mono though | 17:19 |
| yofel | so this is just guessing | 17:20 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: tried that | 17:20 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: check the line with this "-pkg:tomboy-addins" | 17:21 |
| yofel | phoenix_firebrd: do you have the full buildlog? | 17:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: since the error log states that i shoud try to add "-pkg:gtk-sharp2" i added it to the configure.am where the "-pkg:tomboy-addins" is added but its not getting reflected in the build process as you can see the parameter is missing | 17:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | thats configure.ac | 17:23 |
| phoenix_firebrd | sorry its not configure.ac | 17:24 |
| yofel | try -pkg:gtk-sharp-2.0 | 17:24 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: makefile.in is created by makefile.am right? | 17:26 |
| yofel | uh, I think yes, it's been over a year since I last touched autotools | 17:26 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: I have to search were i can insert this param | 17:27 |
| phoenix_firebrd | gotit | 17:27 |
| phoenix_firebrd | this is the makefile.am in the source dir ->http://paste.kde.org/660728/ | 17:28 |
| phoenix_firebrd | i had already added "-pkg:gtk-sharp" before, you want to replace that with the one you said? | 17:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | if so why didn't it get reflected in the log? | 17:29 |
| phoenix_firebrd | the current package name is gtk-shark2 | 17:30 |
| phoenix_firebrd | the current package name is gtk-sharp2 | 17:30 |
| yofel | the pkg-config file is name gtk-sharp-2.0 though | 17:31 |
| yofel | that's what gmcs is looking for | 17:31 |
| phoenix_firebrd | pkg-config ? | 17:31 |
| yofel | !info pkg-config | 17:32 |
| ubottu | pkg-config (source: pkg-config): manage compile and link flags for libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 0.26-1ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 39 kB, installed size 128 kB | 17:32 |
| phoenix_firebrd | checking | 17:33 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok i will try with "gtk-sharp-2.0" | 17:33 |
| yofel | meh | 17:33 |
| yofel | I added it in Makefile.in, but now it fails with | 17:34 |
| yofel | ../../src/AuthenticationTypes.cs(44,41): error CS0433: The imported type `System.Web.HttpUtility' is defined multiple times | 17:34 |
| yofel | you should find someone familiar with mono and autotools in #ubuntu-motu | 17:34 |
| yofel | that's really not our field of expertise | 17:34 |
| yofel | (oh, if you ever want to package our mono bindings, that's like totally adavnced expert insanity stuff, but we would be very happy) | 17:35 |
| yofel | so far everyone gave up | 17:35 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: I am thinking that if i pass through this, i may suceed in any upcoming mono dep packages | 17:36 |
| phoenix_firebrd | packaging is very interesting | 17:38 |
| yofel | try to get something of your work into the archive though ;) | 17:38 |
| phoenix_firebrd | I feel if i keep packaging for a year i may end up knowing atleast 30% of the source on ubuntu | 17:39 |
| phoenix_firebrd | :) | 17:39 |
| ScottK | Then by the end of the second year, you'll have touched 50% and forgotten half of it. | 17:42 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: So since it seems there is an error in the source , shall i drop trying to build it? | 17:43 |
| yofel | well, you'll at least have to ask someone else how that works | 17:43 |
| yofel | I can't build that either though, so maybe it is just a bug in the buildsystem | 17:44 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: shall i take a look at it tomorrow? | 17:44 |
| yofel | feel free to, but you'll have to find someone else for help | 17:45 |
| yofel | as I said, someone in #ubuntu-motu might know what to do here | 17:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ScottK: i can try for 100% :) | 17:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 17:45 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: Is there a list that shows the packages by deps for example mono, java, python etc | 17:46 |
| yofel | I don't know, you could look at the package section, but that's not always correct | 17:47 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 17:48 |
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| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: just to confirm , day after tomorrow kde 4.10 sc is tagged right? | 17:49 |
| yofel | officially, it's today at 23:59 UTC | 17:49 |
| yofel | so we should have the tars by tomorrow | 17:49 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: so you will be working throught the night? | 17:51 |
| yofel | no | 17:51 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: in that case will it be ok if i be here tomorrow 12 pm my time? | 17:52 |
| yofel | sure, you won't be able to help much anyway except watching as you don't have sufficient permissions yet to work on KDE | 17:53 |
| yofel | for that you'll have to convince Riddell that you're on ninja level first | 17:53 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ya, when will the process start, in your time | 17:53 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: yours is +4:30 am i right? | 17:54 |
| yofel | I'm GMT+1 | 17:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 17:54 |
| yofel | but it depends when tsdgeos finished building the tars and then the first ninja to see the tars will get to work | 17:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ya, when will the process start? | 17:54 |
| phoenix_firebrd | ok | 17:55 |
| * rgreening yawns | 17:55 | |
| yofel | as most of the initial process is scripted there's nothing fancy in the beginning anyway ^^ | 17:55 |
| yofel | you can watch the build progress at the page linked in the topic | 17:55 |
| phoenix_firebrd | we can beat suse this time? | 17:56 |
| phoenix_firebrd | are they using cluster for building? | 17:56 |
| yofel | That's impossible to predict, but as we have a week we should at least be done in time | 17:57 |
| yofel | dunno, but we're building in parallel on launchpad too, it just takes a while | 17:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | soon this will happen | 17:57 |
| yofel | and might need some manual work | 17:57 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ok | 17:58 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: I will be here at 7: 30 am your time | 17:58 |
| yofel | I'll tell you more tomorrow, for today I'll finally go home... | 17:58 |
| yofel | I at least an hour later, but the others will be around | 17:59 |
| phoenix_firebrd | yofel: ya. good night, see you tomorrow | 17:59 |
| yofel | 'night | 18:01 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: is the raring status page up in anticipation of a release? | 18:29 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: topic... | 18:45 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: er, yeah | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 18:45 |
| * yofel read s/the/a/ | 18:45 | |
| shadeslayer | I'm off to sleep I am | 18:46 |
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| yofel | apachelogger: s/ifdef/ifndef/ and systemsettings at least doesn't crash anymore trying to open language-selector-kde | 20:41 |
| yofel | progress | 20:41 |
| Noskcaj | ScottK, have you had a look at bug 1066225 with the screenshot? | 20:42 |
| ubottu | bug 1066225 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt home folder needs to be checkbox not radio button" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1066225 | 20:42 |
| yofel | hm, now it did crash | 20:43 |
| yofel | but with this: http://paste.kde.org/660866 | 20:43 |
| yofel | with some more symbols: http://paste.kde.org/660878 | 20:46 |
| yofel | apachelogger: I'll upload this for now http://paste.kde.org/660878 | 20:47 |
| yofel | hm, now I can't reproduce that crash. Old lib in memory I guess | 20:51 |
| yofel | ok, it did now - when closing system settings (sometimes) | 20:52 |
| yofel | that's synaptiks I guess looking at bug 1098288 | 20:55 |
| ubottu | bug 1098288 in synaptiks (Ubuntu) "Remove package "synaptiks" from apt (upstream project is abandoned)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098288 | 20:55 |
| yofel | (that bug is a great example of how launchpad can make a bug unreadable btw.) | 21:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Can you look at what went wrong with the fix for 1066225? | 21:42 |
| ScottK | Noskcaj: I hadn't. Thanks. | 21:42 |
| apachelogger | review please https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc | 21:59 |
| yofel | ScottK: that .ui file doesn't render really well in qtdesigner here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/user_design.png | 22:00 |
| ScottK | Hmm. | 22:01 |
| * ScottK looks harder at Riddell. | 22:01 | |
| apachelogger | looks like the size hinting of the grid there is broken | 22:01 |
| yofel | maybe because you removed the layout? | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | (assuming it is a grid ^^) | 22:01 |
| yofel | the ui file *had* <layout class="QGridLayout" name="gridLayout_8"> | 22:01 |
| apachelogger | well, one can work without grids | 22:02 |
| yofel | well, now the radio buttons are simply inside a qwidget, whose preferred size here is 10 | 22:05 |
| yofel | *preferred height | 22:06 |
| yofel | wtf? | 22:10 |
| yofel | Lay out > Lay out in a Grid; press ctrl+Z; -> it looks righ | 22:10 |
| yofel | t | 22:10 |
| apachelogger | designer files are a flipping mess | 22:11 |
| yofel | well, considering that widget already has fixed content widget sizes, setting a minimum Size wouldn't hurt I guess | 22:14 |
| yofel | feels like the wrong way to fix it though | 22:14 |
| apachelogger | depending on what the widget contains it may also be wrong | 22:15 |
| yofel | 2 radio buttons and one indented checkbox | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | does it contain text? | 22:15 |
| yofel | apachelogger: that's how it was intended: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/user_design1.png | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | yah, minimumsize is wrong though | 22:16 |
| apachelogger | as text labels have no fixed minimumsize | 22:16 |
| yofel | well, they do have set sizes in the ui file though | 22:17 |
| yofel | http://paste.kde.org/660974 | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | yeah its to make sure the uis coming out of designer are as broken as possible | 22:17 |
| apachelogger | I reckon it should be a grid though | 22:18 |
| yofel | well, it was a grid, but how do you do the indenting? (except by adding a fixed spacer) | 22:18 |
| apachelogger | also to get perfect visual results regardless of the qt style/fontsize you'd want to have a radio underneith the other radio that is hidden | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | that's how you'd grid | 22:19 |
| yofel | o.O | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | (*) require the might login | 22:19 |
| apachelogger | ( ) [x] decrypt the awesome home | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | of course the second radio would be invis | 22:20 |
| yofel | hm, that kind of makes sense | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | the other option is to detach the text from the radio | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | i.e. (*) is the radio and 'require the might login' is a secondary label | 22:21 |
| apachelogger | (of course then you need to manually wire the stateness between those | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | also an option though | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | so you get | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | (*) | require the mighty login | 22:22 |
| apachelogger | | [x] decrypt the awesome home | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | | representing a vertical layout border | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | oh and a third option that woudl be entirely code based ... you create a radiobutton without text, get it's size hint and set that as width&height of a spaceritem that is left of the checkbox | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | i.e. you have a temporary radio button that is not really used but that dictates what size the spacer needs to be | 22:25 |
| yofel | well, the hidden, button seems to work, except that you need to hide it in the code | 22:27 |
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