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CIGRHey anybody even talk in this chat haha.01:23
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mcmura92ciao02:31
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wolftuneanyone know how to access a dvd that is on a mac running on my network? I can set the mac to share it, but how do I access it in KDE?04:15
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robtygartwolftune: open dolphin, on the left of the screen you should see a bar with folders click the network icon. ,04:44
robtygartohh he quit.04:44
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RabblerouserHey, I'm new to Ubuntu.. and Linux as a whole. Was hoping I could get some help.06:03
contrast!ask06:04
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:04
contrast:)06:04
RabblerouserI was just thinking.. (and it's many questons), what sort of overhead does Unity on Ubuntu have and is Kubuntu faster in that respect? Do Ubuntu apps work in Kubuntu? And is there a place I can go to sort of get a "test drive" of the layout?06:07
contrastRabblerouser: Send me a PM so we don't flood the channel.06:10
Rabblerouser:S Not sure how to in this IRC client.. oh well.. Actually, I think someone else in a game channel might help me, though. Thanks and sorry for the bother.06:12
shadeslayerheh06:28
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone06:31
contrastGreetings, phoenix_firebrd06:37
phoenix_firebrdcontrast: hi06:40
AknotWhen i set computer to sleep it asks for password after coming back, how can i set it to automatically login? Ive set autologin this user but it only works if i reboot07:18
deavelleyehave you tried searching trough the power options?07:19
deavelleyespecifically screen savers and other such related options?07:19
shadeslayerit's under Advanced Settings > "Lock on Resume"07:20
deavelleyehello there guys & girls. wondering if anyone of you could help me, i've been having a small issue with steam over wine, specifically the fonts. whatever i do, i can't find a solution, tried googling it... still nothing using the guidelines they offer .  I would greatly appreciate if anyone of you guys could spare some time to have a chat about it07:20
shadeslayerinstall the native steam client?07:20
deavelleyei have07:20
deavelleyeif you mean the linux one07:20
shadeslayeryes07:20
deavelleyebut as i mentioned i would like to install the windows one07:21
shadeslayerwhy?07:21
deavelleyeseeing as i would enjoy playing win games07:21
deavelleyeor are they compatible using the linux client?07:21
shadeslayerI see, #wine maybe could help?07:21
shadeslayerno they are not07:21
deavelleyethat's what i thought07:21
shadeslayeryou only get games that have been ported to linux07:21
deavelleyethanks for the heads up07:21
deavelleyei'll go check it out07:21
shadeslayerfor some definition of ported07:21
deavelleyeok so #wine => invite only07:22
deavelleyethat's a shame07:22
shadeslayererrr07:22
shadeslayersec07:22
deavelleyekk07:22
shadeslayer#winehq07:23
shadeslayerdeavelleye: http://www.winehq.org/irc07:23
deavelleyeright07:23
deavelleyeshould've thought of that07:23
deavelleyelol07:23
deavelleyethanks man07:23
shadeslayer:)07:23
shadeslayernp07:23
deavelleyethey're all sleepy!07:26
deavelleyeahaha no wonder at 8 am ...07:26
hateballhmmm, isnt there something in winetricks to install fonts I wonder...07:27
hateballbeen many years since I used steam in wine, granted07:27
shadeslayeranyone here got a precise install?07:29
shadeslayerdeavelleye: what do you want to know? :)07:32
deavelleyewinetricks does not install fonts, as i can recall , i've already tried to wget them , but it doesn't install them already07:32
deavelleyeVPN slayer07:32
deavelleyeVPN07:33
deavelleyehow does it work on linux07:33
shadeslayerdepends on the kind of VPN you want to connect to07:33
deavelleyesay, for example hamachi07:33
deavelleyepretty basic progam07:33
shadeslayerbasically network manager has various VPN plugins07:33
shadeslayerand you have to install the plugin corresponding to the VPN you want to connect to07:33
shadeslayerI don't know alot about VPN's though07:34
deavelleyecan i create a vpn network between win and linux?07:34
shadeslayerI have no idea :P07:34
shadeslayer!vpn07:34
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN07:34
deavelleyethanks :D07:34
deavelleyeuhm right. well that aside . what do i have to know about protection on kubuntu. rootwise and such?07:35
deavelleyeis it, in your opinion, changing Su pw a bad idea? does it imply that many risks?07:36
deavelleyei've been reading a lot about it07:36
deavelleyeopinions vary07:36
shadeslayerout of the box it's pretty secure07:37
shadeslayerjust set a good password and enable ufw07:37
deavelleyefirst time hearing about ufw07:37
deavelleyenice07:37
deavelleyeoh right, now that i think about it07:38
shadeslayer!ufw07:38
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist.07:38
deavelleyei've tried associating .APt protocol to firefox. exactly like they tell you to do it07:39
shadeslayerhm, iirc that should work out of the box no?07:39
deavelleyeit should07:40
deavelleyebut it doesn't...07:40
shadeslayerit does for me : libkfbapi.07:40
shadeslayererm07:40
deavelleyestill getting the .apt protocol association error07:40
shadeslayerdo you have apturl-kde installed?07:40
deavelleyelemme check07:40
shadeslayerand what url are you passing?07:41
deavelleyei don't have the url atm , but i recall trying to open a wine .apt link07:42
shadeslayer0.o07:42
deavelleyeand yes i got apturl-kde installed07:42
deavelleye...07:42
shadeslayernever heard of .apt links07:42
shadeslayerit's usually something like this : apt://firefox07:42
deavelleyethat's what i'm talking about07:42
shadeslayerso if you click on that ^ it'll install firefox07:42
deavelleyei just missexplained myself07:43
shadeslayer:)07:43
deavelleyeright07:43
deavelleyeso07:43
deavelleyeit works here07:43
deavelleyebut not from firefox07:43
deavelleye...07:43
FloodBotK1deavelleye: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:43
shadeslayerodd, works fine for me07:43
shadeslayerbut then again, I'm on raring07:43
deavelleyetried creating new strings and bolean values to make it work. but it still doesn't ching07:43
deavelleyeraring?07:44
shadeslayeryes, the next release, 13.0407:44
contrastdeavelleye: You might consider installing firefox and firefox-kde from here - https://launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/firefox-kde . That's always taken care of any weird Firefox/KDE issues for me.07:44
deavelleyethanks contrast!07:44
contrastdeavelleye: If you can point me to a page that has apt:// links on it, I can make sure they're working in Firefox for me.07:45
deavelleyeuhm llemme see07:45
shadeslayeractually those packages have a different set of patches, nothing to do with apt url handling07:45
shadeslayernote to self, I should update those packages, seems like there was an update07:46
contrastdeavelleye: No problem. Just note that the version in that PPA is usually a little behind the official packages, so if you want to make sure Firefox is always installed from there (thus keeping KDE integration working)...07:46
shadeslayeror you could always poke me07:47
deavelleyei see07:47
deavelleyebut now i can't find the link i was talking about !!! annoying07:47
contrastdeavelleye: ...you'll want to add this to /etc/apt/preferences: http://pastebin.com/gDS0GU0q (just make a new file if it's not already there).07:49
thechefIs nvidia-current-updates in 12.04 not pointing to 310, because 1) it never will in 12.04, 2) nvidia doesn't declare 310 as stable-enough for LTS systems 3) still in testing 4) because 304 is still supported and for >304 version to appear in LTS 304 must first come to EOL 5) other?07:50
deavelleyeit feels like xmass with all of you guys around07:50
deavelleyespeaking of which, why are there 2 versions of nvidia experimental drivers on jokey?07:52
thechefI wanted to ask in #ubuntu, sorry07:52
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AknotIs there a way to change the colours on ktorrent? I hate the bright light green and orange09:30
shadeslayerAknot: specifically for ktorrent? nope09:35
Aknotthat sucks09:36
Aknotit burns my eyes09:36
shadeslayerask the ktorrent guys to tone it down ? :D09:36
shadeslayer#ktorrent I think09:36
shadeslayeror better yet, poke their ML09:36
jMCgHello happy people o/~09:37
Aknotthey have 6 users in their channel09:37
jMCgI just installed the latest Kubuntu (amd64) from DVD ISO (actually: USB stick) on my laptop, and it's not booting. I'm getting a GRUB error that it cannot find i386-something.mod09:38
shadeslayerAknot: s/users/developers/09:39
shadeslayerhm09:39
shadeslayerjMCg: are you sure the laptop is not i386 only09:39
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shadeslayerand it'd be nice ot have the full error09:40
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sbivolI see PySide is missing from Raring. known issue?09:49
jMCgshadeslayer: fairly certain. For instance: I was able to boot and run the LiveISO of Kubuntu amd64. Also, because I've been ALWAYS running amd64 distros on it09:49
shadeslayerokay09:50
shadeslayersbivol: lemme check09:50
jMCgThat, along with hints such as "lm" in /proc/cpuinfo flags. Etc.. all give off the vibe of, yes, this is, indeed a 64bit system.09:51
sbivolshadeslayer: the package name is „python3-pyside”. Last night I installed it on Quantal09:52
shadeslayeryou are correct09:52
shadeslayeruse PyQt4 for now?09:53
shadeslayer*blink*09:53
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyside/1.1.2-109:53
sbivolshadeslayer: yeah, no problem with that, just that the docs for PySide are easier to understand for me09:53
shadeslayerheh how true09:53
shadeslayernot to mention PyQt4 has loads of missing stuff09:53
shadeslayersbivol: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pyside/1.1.1-309:54
shadeslayeryofel: ^ any ideas why apt just ignores that?09:55
sbivolshadeslayer: I'm confused. the packages have been built, but why are they missing from the list...09:55
shadeslayereven rmadison09:55
shadeslayersbivol: you and me both09:55
shadeslayerlet me check publishing history09:56
shadeslayerseems fine10:01
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sbivolshadeslayer: I'm contemplating to simply pull the packages with wget, install with dpkg and call it a day10:06
shadeslayersure, you could do that10:07
mparilloAnybody notice a change in the default fonts. I applied updates last night via Muon to both 12.10 and 13.04 daily builds, and my fonts look different.10:16
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sbivolshadeslayer: python3-pyside.qtxml depends on python3 (<< 3.3), but python 3.3.0-2ubuntu8 is in Raring... something's not ok10:20
shadeslayerhm10:21
shadeslayermparillo: not that I know of10:21
shadeslayersbivol: I've asked ScottK to have a look10:21
shadeslayersince he did the sync10:21
sbivolshadeslayer: I'll try to apply a bit of --force to dpkg in the meantime10:22
shadeslayernooooo10:22
* sbivol blinks10:22
shadeslayerit's entirely possible that dpkg will trash your system if you do that10:23
mparilloshadeslayer: Thank you. If you do notice something after you apply updates, could you post it here or on the -devel IRC channel? Alas in my new day job it is harder for me to be active there, but I try to read the logs from home.10:23
shadeslayermparillo: well all I can say for raring is that kubuntu didn't upload anything to change the font settings10:24
shadeslayermaybe the ubuntu folk uploaded a new fonts package?10:24
sbivolmparillo: I also install all updates, but nochanges to fonts on both Quantal and Raring10:24
mparillosbivol: I agree, and I did not notice anything unusual in my system settings, but for some reason the fonts look a bit lighter and more spread-out.10:29
sbivolmparillo: system settings -> application appearance -> fonts -> Use antialiasing -> Enabled -> Configure ->  Slight10:30
sbivolchoose either Slight or any other value that looks best on your monitor10:31
mparillosbivol:  Thank you. I used to do that on Open SuSE, but I have always taken the Kubuntu defaults.10:32
mparilloKubuntu FTW.10:32
mparilloI just had an idea...I can fire up my Xubuntu VM tonight, wait for updates and see if anything changes there also.10:34
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jMCgOkay, this is an EFI laptop, and, wow, really: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting I have to step through this?10:53
shadeslayerjMCg: I'm afraid I have no idea wrt to your issue10:58
shadeslayeroh10:58
shadeslayerer10:58
shadeslayerjMCg: is it a MBP??10:58
shadeslayerjMCg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI10:59
shadeslayerand I think I know why that error pops up10:59
jMCgshadeslayer: nah. Samsung 9x30a11:01
shadeslayerI see11:02
shadeslayer*possibly* the DVD doesn't have the signed bootloaders11:02
shadeslayercan you try the Kubuntu amd64 standard iso, failing that, the ubuntu amd64 ISO?11:02
shadeslayerI know for certain that the amd64 ubuntu ISO works with efi11:03
shadeslayerthe Kubuntu one is suppossed to work11:03
shadeslayereverything else, no idea11:03
invariantjMCg, newer is not always better, so it appears.11:03
shadeslayerwell since EFI is the future, it's good to have some testing done11:05
shadeslayerjMCg: note that only raring and quantal ISO's have signed bootloaders11:05
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jMCgThe future kinda feels like 1998, when you have to grub-fiddle after a "successful" installation.11:14
ovidiu-florinhello world, I just received an update for jockey, and I was just curious, what's new in it? I think I remember seeing in the kubuntu devel mail list that jockey is to be replaced by something else. Is that true? If yes, how's that going?11:20
sbivolafter refreshing the sources list, Muon 1.9.65 does not find any packages when using the search bar. known bug?11:26
ovidiu-florinmy kubuntu is 12.04 with backports11:28
delomozz#radiostudent11:42
delomozzsry11:42
BluesKajHey all11:49
ovidiu-florinhello BluesKaj11:51
BluesKajhey ovidiu-florin11:52
jMCgAWEsome.12:12
jMCgGuided LVM setup wiped all my data.12:12
jMCgBut at least it boots now.12:12
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MichaelPHow do i configure audio for HDMI audio.. i opened kmix.. audio setup.. message poped up saying hdmi audio has been removed14:01
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BluesKajMichaelP, systemsettings>multimedia>phonon>device preferences , check the devices availble in the list and test them for audio14:03
BluesKajmost likely there will be one like hidefintion audio controller (hdmi)14:04
MichaelPBluesKaj: Everything is going to my laptop speakers.. Not thru my hdmi... But with youtube or vlc.. im getting nothing.. and i have everything set to hdmi14:06
BluesKajif it the test sound is audible then move to the top...hdmi is for a device like your tv that can accept hdmi audio/video , there won't be any sound from the speakers14:07
MichaelPeverything is set to the hdmi... i had a message saying hdmi audio was removed14:08
BluesKajconnect an hdmi cable from yoiur laptop to a tv/monitor14:09
MichaelPmy cable is pluged in...14:09
BluesKajor audio/video home theater receiver14:09
MichaelPonly have 1 cable14:10
BluesKajwhat is the hdmi cable from your laptop connected to?14:11
MichaelPtv14:11
MichaelPthen run out of rca on tv to stereo14:12
BluesKajno ,  connect the audio line out directly to the stereo , rca input\14:14
BluesKajlaptop to stereo14:15
MichaelPthis is how i have always had it hooked up... it's kde erorr14:15
MichaelPi run sndconfig not found14:16
BluesKajalways doesn't mean it's correct14:17
MichaelPit's not in my hook up.. its in kde14:17
BluesKajit's in your connection setup in pavucontrol14:18
BluesKajinstall pavucontrol , if you don't have it..you can setup your hdmi outputs there14:19
BluesKaj!pavucontrol14:20
BluesKaj!info pavucontrol14:21
ubottupavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (quantal), package size 140 kB, installed size 953 kB14:21
MichaelPthat did nothing14:21
BluesKajwhat did nothing14:21
MichaelPpavucontrol14:22
BluesKajoutput settings ?14:22
sbivolMichaelP: what video card do you have?14:24
MichaelPidt..14:24
BluesKajand what sound card14:25
MichaelPi just said IDT14:25
MichaelPhow do i gove output14:26
MichaelPI never had this problem befor14:26
* sbivol has no idea what IDT is14:26
MichaelPIDT Integrated Device Technology14:28
MichaelPwhat hp uses with the beats audio14:29
sbivolMichaelP: what chipset is it? nVidia? AMD? Intel?14:29
MichaelPamd14:29
BluesKajwhat does alsamixer say about the audio chip14:30
mandoguitMichaelP:   might want to install the following as it takes all the guess work out of identifying cards etc   http://code.google.com/p/inxi/14:31
dragoniousgood morning Kubuntu users14:31
dragoniousI have ubuntu server 12.04 installed with the Kubuntu desktop and I wondering how to give a user access to only the 2 folders in www that he needs access to14:32
MichaelPbrb going to do a reboot14:33
dragoniousno helpfull folks on this morning14:35
dragonious?14:35
tsimpsondragonious: change the group of the directory to a group both users are in, or create such a group14:36
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tsimpsons/both/all/14:37
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Blacklist angel16:10
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AknotKtorrent downloads magnet torrents to different location than the one ive set out17:47
AknotHOw can i change that17:47
jMCgHow do I make kwallet start an ssh-agent?18:29
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jMCgigalic    1672  1636 TS   19 19:43 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startkde18:48
jMCgIt's started, but kwallet's not asking me for a password for a password of my keys.18:52
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WalzmynAll of the sudden I'm getting error messages from Kontact which I can't trace and plasma-desktop has started randomly shutting down and i have to manually restart - is there a log or something where I can trace down what's causing these?21:46
contrastWalzmyn: You *might* find something useful in ~/.xsession-errors, but I wouldn't hold my breath. What kind of error messages is Kontact giving you?21:53
WalzmynI don't remember until it gives me another one, but it's very non-specific. I don't even know which module is causing the error21:54
Walzmyncontrast: i had added two new calenders and thought they were the problem. But deleting them didn't make the messages go away.21:54
contrastWalzmyn: Which version of KDE are you using?21:55
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Walzmyncontrast: 9.522:12
Walzmyncontrast: err, 4.9.522:12
contrastWalzmyn: You could try upgrading to the 4.10 release candidate - sudo add-apt-repository -y ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:14
Walzmyncontrast: meh, not really interested in being on a release candidate. I'll wait for it to go all official22:15
contrastWalzmyn: Understandable... The only other thing I could suggest, in lieu of any useful error messages, is starting with a clean KDE/Akonadi setup (moving ~/.kde*, ~/.local/share/akonadi and ~/.config/akonadi to a backup location so you can more them back in case it doesn't work).22:18
Walzmyncontrast: well, I'm hoping the next time it throws the error I won't be in desperate need of the computer and can google whatever it says.22:19
Walzmyncontrast: i do find it interesting that the plasma-desktop shutdowns started at the same time as the kontact errors22:19
TorchWalzmyn: might be the calendar trying to load stuff and crashing22:21
contrastWalzmyn: That could be relevant, but it could just be because the Digital Clock widget uses Akonadi.22:21
WalzmynMore: I just realized my desktop effects are not working and they won't enable when I try to either22:23
contrastWalzmyn: What brand video card are you using?22:24
WalzmynATI Radeon22:25
L3topWalzmyn: lsb_release -sc22:30
WalzmynL3top: huh?22:31
L3topin a terminal... please type lsb_release -sc22:31
L3topand paste the result here22:31
L3topor reproduce if it is easier.22:31
L3topalso: lspci -nn | grep VGA22:32
adociao a tutti.. c'è un modo per velocizzare il pc? ho ubuntu.. tipo pensavo un deframmenta.. o simile?22:33
Walzmynprecise22:33
L3topk... and the second?22:33
L3topIf you are reproducing... I want the numbers22:34
WalzmynL3top: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts PRO [ATI Radeon HD 6800 Series] [1002:6739]22:34
L3topbrilliant.... now apt-cache policy fglrx | grep stall22:34
WalzmynL3top: none22:35
L3topWalzmyn: the native radeon driver, while free which I love, is one of the few I install the proprietary driver.22:36
L3top*instead of22:36
L3topIf I were you, I would sudo apt-get install fglrx22:36
L3topand exit your desktop, and re-enter.22:36
Walzmynso I'm not running on the propreitary driver? I installed it. L3top22:36
L3topthe proprietary driver is fglrx22:37
WalzmynL3top: yeah, when I built the comtpuer the first thing I did was install the proprietary driver22:37
L3topNot sure what has occurred... however it is not installed currently22:38
Walzmyn*grumble*22:38
L3topapt-cache policy fglrx   will show the candidate, and the installed version... which is none22:38
Walzmynwhat's the difference between the FGLRX driver and the FGLRX (post-release updates) dirver?22:39
L3topfglrx-updates is the "bleeding edge" driver made into the repo... it is still not likely ever the most current... but fglrx is stable. For fun, apt-cache policy fglrx-updates | grep stall22:41
L3topFor your GPU I would just roll with the stable driver... unless I encountered a problem22:41
WalzmynL3top: i'm trying to remember, but it seems like I did and had to change to the updates driver. Been a bit, this is the kinda thing I do once and forget22:43
L3toplinux GPU/audio is the focus of what I do. I would not expect you to find any gain in the updated driver for a 6xxx series chipset.22:43
L3topagain... to see... apt-cache policy fglrx-updates | grep stall22:43
WalzmynOh there's nothing installed, i'm looking at the gui gizmo22:44
L3topthe power of the darkside is in the terminal22:45
L3topopen a cli...22:46
L3topNow witness the firepower of this fully ARMED and OPERATIONAL battle station!22:46
WalzmynI know, but while I was trying to follow you around the man page to see what "policy" did, I pulled his up really fast22:46
L3topFeel free to ask what things do. Not that a stranger should be trusted, but I will happily explain.22:47
L3topIf I told you something terrible, someone in chan would alert you.22:47
Walzmyn*shrug* that's what man pages are for :)22:47
WalzmynL3top: thanks for the help. I'ma move toward supper now.22:49
L3toppreaching to the choir... normally you have to pull teeth to get folks to read the man... you will find no argument here22:49
L3topenjoy22:49
L3top!bcm43xx23:05
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx23:05

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