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| elbuntu | Hi Guys, I would like to help Ubuntu with testing pre-releases, apps etc... I am an Ubuntu user and develop web apps and also know JAVA, C++ & Gambas. How do I get started? | 10:57 |
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| jussi | !contribute | elbuntu | 10:57 |
| ubottu | elbuntu: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu | 10:57 |
| elbuntu | Thanks guys, I'll check the links out. :) | 10:59 |
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| * slangasek waves | 16:01 | |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 16:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Jan 30 16:01:51 2013 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:01 |
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| slangasek | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 16:02 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| slangasek | $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu) | 16:02 |
| slangasek | bdmurray jodh ogra stgraber stokachu barry ev doko slangasek xnox cjwatson | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | Blueprints: | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | I was working on create and update a BucketSystems column family to keep track of unique systems in a bucket: TODO | 16:03 |
| bdmurray | and | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | Import developer to package and developer to team mappings and filter the default view on errors.ubuntu.com to problems the developer and their team are responsible for: TODO | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | there is a now a user view at errors.ubuntu.com which is part of that | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | I completed the following: | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | move stable release notes from archiveadmin page and put it in another page and link to it from the archiveadmin page and the SRU page: DONE | 16:04 |
| bdmurray | update SRU team documentation to mention that the security team should be pinged for any copies to the -security pocket: DONE | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | document pinging the SRU team member of the day in #ubuntu-release to escalate SRUs: DONE | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | other work: | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | irc discussion with evan regarding errors user parameter | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | setup of errors in an lxc environment linked to production cassandra | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | debugged user view on errors.ubuntu.com | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | setup rpdb2 on lxc versions of errors | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | added rpdb2 information to w.u.c/ErrorTracker/Deployment | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | sorted out issue with user parameter only working with one source package | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | landed fix for bug 1103156 regarding user parameter | 16:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1103156 in Errors "not possible to use user parameter on front page of errors" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103156 | 16:05 |
| bdmurray | uploaded software-center to raring fixing bug 1095823 | 16:05 |
| ubottu | bug 1095823 in software-center (Ubuntu Quantal) "Incorrect path for oem descriptor" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095823 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | uploaded software-center fix for bug 1095823 to P and Q | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | tested and uploaded fix for bug 1077113 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1077113 in apt-clone (Ubuntu) "do-release-upgrade crashes if any directories exist in /etc/apt/sources.list.d" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077113 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | testing fix for bug 1098235 regarding update-notifier and gksu | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | merge proposal for apport adding a policykit policy to allow pkexec to use apport-gtk | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1098235 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "On screen Keybord non responsive for "Report problem" due to update-notifier using gksu" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1098235 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | Q SRU verification of bug 1077253 regarding apport | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1077253 in apport (Ubuntu Quantal) "possible for ExecutableTimestamp to not be for the binary in ExecutablePath" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077253 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | updated w.u.c/StableReleaseUpdates per blueprints | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | research into functionality provided by update-notifier | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | documentation of update-notifier changes at w.u.c./UpdateNotifier | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | reported usb-creator bug 1108327 regaring ubuntu folder | 16:06 |
| ubottu | bug 1108327 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "ubuntu folder not created on a disk made by usb-creator" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1108327 | 16:06 |
| bdmurray | done | 16:06 |
| jodh | * blueprints | 16:06 |
| jodh | - foundations-r-upstart-roadmap: NOPROGRESS | 16:06 |
| jodh | - foundations-r-arm-ubiquity: NOPROGRESS | 16:06 |
| jodh | - foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements | 16:06 |
| jodh | - merged lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-make-event-bridge-usable. | 16:06 |
| jodh | - wrote lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/add-session-file. | 16:06 |
| jodh | - wrote lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/remove-basic-user-sessions. | 16:06 |
| jodh | - further investigations into session shutdown. | 16:06 |
| jodh | - finished lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/initctl-list-sessions. | 16:06 |
| jodh | - finished tests + doc for lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/setenv+getenv. | 16:07 |
| jodh | - good progress on lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/event-prefixes. | 16:07 |
| jodh | - branch updates based on review feedback. | 16:07 |
| jodh | œ | 16:07 |
| jodh | 16:07 | |
| ogra_ | done: | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * ambient light support script added to nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * set up cpufreq configuration for the interactive governor used on the nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * hunting IS to get the livefs builder working again | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * lots and lots of testing of fixes from others for the nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * enable usbnet alongside with teh serial gadget driver on teh nexus7 so serial over USB as well as direct TCP/IP via teh usb cable work now | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * tested the new BT implementation on the nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * dropped all hardcoded screen rotation bits from nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * fix up a lot of teh gsettings overrides on nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * roughly looked into GPS on the nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | todo: | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * port nx7 images to xz compression (blocked on missing livefs builder) | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * discuss livefs builder situation with infinity (carried over from last week, blocked on builder) | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * fix plymouth vs console-setup racing somehow (likely needs cjwatson advice) to allow initrd-less booting | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * port update-notifier to pkexec to fix onboard vs gksu issues | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * add lux script for making the ambient light sensor work on the nexus7 | 16:07 |
| ogra_ | * holding a UDW talk about the ubuntu image build infrastructure tomorrow and will likely bother cjwatson or infinity with a review of notes for the talk | 16:07 |
| slangasek | ogra_: I saw the RT has been updated; is the livefs builder working again today? | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | yep | 16:08 |
| slangasek | ok, good | 16:08 |
| stgraber | ogra_: are you done? | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | they got it working yesterday biut nobody noticed the stale lockfile | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | infinity then saved us :) | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | done | 16:09 |
| stgraber | Feature work: | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Upstart (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements) | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Session socket branch was merged | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Event bridge fixes branch was merged | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Planning the next steps (jobs, packaging, landing). | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Container (BLUEPRINT: servercloud-r-lxc) | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - MIR: Updated libseccomp to run the test suite and asked for final ack from the MIR team. | 16:09 |
| bdmurray | ogra_: I'm almost done with the porting of update-notifier to pkexec | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - MIR: Poked the MIR team about lxc. | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Code reviews. | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Planning 0.9~alpha3. | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Discussed plan for container/security/lxc micro-conference at LPC2013 | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Fixed auto-upgrade-testing to work properly with LXC, now giving the same results as KVM but 2-3 times faster. | 16:09 |
| * ogra_ hugs bdmurray | 16:09 | |
| stgraber | - Networking (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-networking) | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Some apparmor fixes for the upcoming infiniband support | 16:09 |
| stgraber | Other work: | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Installer | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - SRUed fix for casper bug 984276 | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Networking | 16:09 |
| ubottu | bug 984276 in casper (Ubuntu Precise) "installing casper on a non live system causes update-initramfs to fail" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984276 | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Updated ofono in raring to latest upstream. | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Tested ofono with all the modems I had around. | 16:09 |
| stgraber | - Started implementing a new ofono backed for NetworkManager. Now capable of listing the modems and properties, not quite connecting yet though. | 16:09 |
| stgraber | TODO: | 16:10 |
| stgraber | - Try to finish any LXC feature work for this cycle (1 item left). | 16:10 |
| stgraber | - Prepare some upstart user session debs with all our patches and the initial Xsession scripts and upstart jobs. | 16:10 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 16:10 |
| slangasek | stokachu: around? anything you want to report? | 16:12 |
| stokachu | oh sorry | 16:12 |
| stokachu | bug: 1103541, being reviewed | 16:13 |
| stokachu | bug: 1103644, has a new MP for review | 16:13 |
| stokachu | bug: 1023069, further investigation still seems to point to a corrupt repo, will have further confirmation this week | 16:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1103541 in aptitude (Ubuntu) "Please merge aptitude 0.6.8.2-1(main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103541 | 16:13 |
| stokachu | bug: 1077095, finished verification for Quantal | 16:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1103644 in python-tz (Ubuntu) "Please merge python-tz 2012c-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103644 | 16:13 |
| stokachu | done | 16:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1023069 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Packages was corrupt" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1023069 | 16:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1077095 in appmenu-gtk (Ubuntu Quantal) "Please blacklist "IBM Notes"" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1077095 | 16:13 |
| barry | stokachu: i'll take another look at that mp later today | 16:13 |
| stokachu | barry: cool thanks man, hopefully got it sorted out for you | 16:13 |
| barry | you definitely picked a fun one :) | 16:14 |
| stokachu | hah and here i was hoping it was a low hanging fruit | 16:14 |
| slangasek | barry: your turn | 16:15 |
| barry | bug 1094823; bug 1103192; bug 1102875; bug 1110470 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1094823 in libnet-ssh2-perl (Ubuntu) "Merge libnet-ssh2-perl 0.46-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1094823 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1103192 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "oneconf-query crashed with AttributeError in /usr/bin/oneconf-query: 'GNUTranslations' object has no attribute 'ugettext'" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103192 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1102875 in oneconf (Ubuntu) "DEP8 test failed with output on stderr" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1102875 | 16:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1110470 in software-center (Ubuntu) "--measure-startup-time fails with missing import" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1110470 | 16:15 |
| barry | reviewed/sponsored lp:~dobey/ubuntu/raring/twisted/fix-pygtkcompat | 16:16 |
| barry | reviewed/sponsored lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/raring/python3-defaults/resync | 16:16 |
| barry | experimented a bit with pybuild | 16:16 |
| barry | blueprint workitem for community-r-packaging-guide | 16:16 |
| barry | cx_Freeze 4.3.1 into raring | 16:16 |
| barry | blueprint workitem: investigating freezing of s-c for startup time improvement | 16:16 |
| barry | dmb meeting | 16:16 |
| barry | patch piloting (see previous report) | 16:16 |
| barry | foundations-r-python-oauth3: upstream released 0.3.5, now packaged in raring, which should unblock the 4 inprogress bugs. | 16:16 |
| barry | foundations-r-python-version: no further progress | 16:17 |
| barry | foundations-r-python33: DONE | 16:17 |
| barry | done | 16:17 |
| barry | (hmm, that first bug doesn't seem right) | 16:17 |
| ev | - My branch to group error reports that should not disturb the user with the | 16:17 |
| ev | next one that should is ready for review: | 16:17 |
| ev | https://code.launchpad.net/~ev/apport/grouped_reports/+merge/144591 | 16:17 |
| ev | - Helping jjo get the error tracker infrastructure deployed to stagingstack \o/ | 16:17 |
| barry | it was a s-c bug | 16:17 |
| ev | - Chat with James Troup on whether it makes sense to rework the retracers to | 16:17 |
| ev | use EBS rather than ephemeral storage. EBS on OpenStack was *much* faster in | 16:17 |
| ev | his tests, but he felt that using it now would be premature optimisation. We | 16:17 |
| ev | can always scale out more retracers. | 16:17 |
| ev | - Took an action to bolt gnuoy's script to clear the caches on 80% disk usage | 16:17 |
| ev | to the prodstack infrastructure. | 16:17 |
| ev | We also agreed that we can run the secondary single-node Cassandra cluster on | 16:17 |
| ev | prodstack. This if you don't recall will be used for backup (both failover | 16:17 |
| ev | and saving state) and non-write Hadoop jobs. | 16:17 |
| ev | - Dug deeper into d3.js over the weekend, refactoring a lot of the code I wrote | 16:18 |
| ev | to create the average errors per calendar day graph. I'm trying to fix the | 16:18 |
| ev | milestone and date overlap problem while making the full graph easier to | 16:18 |
| ev | read. | 16:18 |
| ev | - Sprinting. | 16:18 |
| ev | - Trying to bring whoopsie's memory usage down to a more acceptable level. I | 16:18 |
| ev | replaced the Dbus-based NetworkManager calls with libnm calls, this getting | 16:18 |
| ev | rid of a hard to track memory leak in our usage of GVariant. GVariant has | 16:18 |
| ev | proven really difficult to get right since we started writing whoopsie. | 16:18 |
| ev | - Plugged a few memory leaks discovered with valgrind. | 16:18 |
| ev | - Built out tests to run whoopsie for 15 seconds under valgrind, then run the | 16:18 |
| ev | entire test suite under valgrind. This means we run the suite twice, but I | 16:18 |
| ev | think that's a reasonable compromise for being able to run tests using the | 16:18 |
| ev | normal GLib memory allocator. | 16:18 |
| ev | - Somehow memory usage has increased quite dramatically with all these | 16:18 |
| ev | changes, so I'm bisecting. | 16:18 |
| ev | - Started to look into reducing the number of wakeups in whoopsie. The big | 16:18 |
| ev | cause of this at the moment is GNetworkMonitor, which we use to track | 16:18 |
| doko | slangasek just notes he doesn't have any irc connection at the moment | 16:18 |
| ev | changes to the network state: | 16:18 |
| ev | http://developer.gnome.org/gio/2.32/GNetworkMonitor.html#GNetworkMonitor-network-changed | 16:18 |
| ev | Blueprints have mostly remained unchanged this week with the sprint. I've taken | 16:18 |
| ev | on one additional workitem so far to reduce whoopsie's memory usage. Let me | 16:18 |
| ev | know if there's anything else I personally should be looking at. I'm keen on | 16:18 |
| ev | seeing how performant apport is on the Nexus 7 just as soon as I can figure out | 16:18 |
| ev | this VPN nonsense. | 16:18 |
| ev | (done!) | 16:18 |
| doko | done! or !done? | 16:18 |
| slangasek | unless I've fallen off the network suddenly :) | 16:19 |
| slangasek | why yes, I sure have | 16:19 |
| xnox | slangasek: you are back? =) | 16:19 |
| doko | - backported python3 cross build patches to 2.7, and the packaging. 2.7 is now able to cross-build | 16:19 |
| doko | - updated the python3.3 packaging to cross build | 16:19 |
| doko | - get cross build fixes upstream into 3.3 and trunk | 16:19 |
| doko | - cross-build python*-stdlib-extensions | 16:19 |
| doko | - cross-build zope.interface (as a proof of concept that cross-building simple packages using distutils/ | 16:19 |
| doko | setuptools does work. See http://wiki.debian.org/Python/MultiArch for the details | 16:19 |
| doko | - TODO: fix dh_python* to rename to host names, not build names | 16:19 |
| doko | (done) | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | cross-build zope.interface> oh, *well done* | 16:21 |
| barry | doko: i may want to cross build cxfreeze, so i'll come to you if i have questions ;) | 16:22 |
| ev | doko: haha, just noticed that :) | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: still back? | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | xnox: maybe you should go ahead | 16:26 |
| slangasek | ev: +1 on reducing whoopsie's memory usage & wakeups :) | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | aha | 16:26 |
| xnox | .. | 16:26 |
| xnox | Blueprints: | 16:26 |
| xnox | foundations-r-dh-apparmortemplate: Got reply from jamie, currently | 16:26 |
| xnox | it's not been worked on on the desktop side, hence will probably be postponed. | 16:26 |
| xnox | foundations-r-arm-usb-creator-fastboot-support: | 16:26 |
| xnox | complete from usb-creator side, uploaded with nexus7 support into | 16:26 |
| xnox | raring. Not sure if we will change the way we publish images. | 16:26 |
| xnox | * porting usb-creator to udisks2 api to drop udisks1 from the CD | 16:26 |
| xnox | (udisks2 api is significantly different) | 16:26 |
| xnox | * Fixed bug #656009 | 16:26 |
| ubottu | bug 656009 in usbmuxd (Ubuntu Quantal) "/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-afc-volume-monitor kills polar bears" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656009 | 16:26 |
| xnox | * Looking into other powertop wakeups | 16:27 |
| xnox | * Giving a quick demo "Fixing packages to cross-build" for Developer week tomorrow | 16:27 |
| xnox | * Going to FOSDEM on friday. | 16:27 |
| xnox | * Reviewed ubiquity branches from ~kylix, got legal ok to merge them. | 16:27 |
| ev | slangasek: excellent, I was worried about how wanted that would be | 16:27 |
| xnox | * fix a crash in software-center bug #1105021 while trying to verify | 16:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1095117 in Ubuntu Software Center "duplicate for #1105021 update-software-center-channels crashed with NameError in trigger_axi_update_and_wait(): global name 'GLib' is not defined" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095117 | 16:27 |
| xnox | app-install-data-partner quantal sru | 16:27 |
| xnox | .. | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | No blueprint progress to speak of this week, mainly due to sprinting. Still awaiting review on LP change for foundations-r-phased-updates (I've just poked the maintenance squad about it). | 16:27 |
| xnox | (and that still didn't get uploaded into the archive... maybe I should upload it as well.) | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | Merged about half of our remaining grub2 delta back to Debian, and working on ideas for merging some of the rest, as the size of our delta has been a pain; not uploaded yet. | 16:27 |
| cjwatson | 12.04.2 prep: uploaded base-files, sent status mail, promotions to -updates including the X.org enablement stack, continuing reviews | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | Nexus 7 sprint: | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed valgrind to not strip vgpreload* on ARM so you don't need valgrind-dbg, and applied patch to implement VCVT.F64.[SU]32 instructions. | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed memory leaks in upower. | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | - Tracked down some of update-notifier's memory use (and probably others) to incorrect timestamps created by installer bug; filed bug report which has been fixed. | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | - Mailed ubuntu-devel about some strategies and tools for attacking memory leaks. | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | - Further work on update-notifier, trying to find more memory inefficiencies since I think its use is unreasonable. I'm going to need to tidy up some more before I can see the real problems. | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | .. | 16:28 |
| * ogra_ notices that sadly updating the icon cache still levaes me with 620M for an idling desktop | 16:29 | |
| ogra_ | (according to htop) | 16:29 |
| slangasek | * nexus7 sprinting: reviewing upstart branches so that we can enable user sessions | 16:29 |
| slangasek | * systemd packaging | 16:29 |
| slangasek | * SRU processing for 12.04.2 | 16:29 |
| slangasek | * BP status: | 16:29 |
| slangasek | * foundations-r-secure-boot: in progress | 16:29 |
| slangasek | * foundations-r-session-management: systemd packaging in progress | 16:30 |
| slangasek | * foundations-r-improve-cross-compilation: stalled; will look at this next month | 16:30 |
| slangasek | * foundations-r-opt-installation: no progress to report; will start on this next month | 16:30 |
| slangasek | (done) | 16:30 |
| slangasek | any questions? | 16:30 |
| ev | cjwatson: hmm, I wonder if we should have something approaching a common valgrind suppressions file for these glib/gtk based applications | 16:30 |
| kyleN | dholbach, Hi. How can I attend/discover achiang's UDW session g+ hangout in 30 minutes? | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | heh, achiang asked that too | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | I think most of those are not really suppressable - the bulk are reference cycles and such | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | but I guess you mean singletons | 16:32 |
| ev | cjwatson: yeah, did you get anywhere with refdbg, by the way? It looks fairly dead upstream. | 16:32 |
| ev | yeah, there are a few things here and there | 16:32 |
| dholbach | kyleN, http://ubuntuonair.com | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | I actually think it'd be better to finish pushing gtk up the hill such that you can actually free those properly on exit - there've been a few upstream bugs about it over the years and general consensus that we should | 16:32 |
| ev | excellent. I'm all for that | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | ev: refdbg> next on the list - it does at least still build (you need libglib2.0-0-refdbg) | 16:33 |
| ev | it's a shame that there's no such thing for the gvariant case, but oh well | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | no which thing? | 16:33 |
| ev | refdbg | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | ah, didn't realise it didn't handle gvariants | 16:34 |
| ev | I don't *think* it does, but don't quote me | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | Maybe it's not enough of a GTye | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | *GType | 16:35 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Bugs | 16:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Bugs | ||
| slangasek | bdmurray: not sure if there's anything this week since we're all mobiling? | 16:35 |
| ev | I thought it was more that gvariant lives off in its own excessively-optimised little world and that http://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/tools-refdb.html wouldn't work | 16:36 |
| slangasek | (not to be confused with moblining) | 16:36 |
| ev | but I haven't dug deep enough - I just ended up throwing in a convincing enough struct to check the refcounts manually | 16:36 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: I have not seen anything other than the carry over bug 1093819 from last week. What is the next step there? | 16:36 |
| ogra_ | something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7 ? | 16:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1093819 in Wubi "Wubi installed 12.10 amd64 without configuring i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1093819 | 16:36 |
| ogra_ | :) | 16:36 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: next step is to look at the build system for the wubi image and figure out if something is removing the file | 16:38 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: as I noted in the bug log, dpkg's postinst should work unconditionally on initial install | 16:40 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: can you carry that investigation forward, since you've been looking at it so far? | 16:41 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: looking at the build system? | 16:41 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: yes | 16:42 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: sure | 16:42 |
| slangasek | cheers | 16:42 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: | 16:42 |
| slangasek | oops, sorry | 16:42 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Mobile sprint | 16:42 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Mobile sprint | ||
| slangasek | anybody want to say anything wrt the sprint that hasn't already been said? | 16:43 |
| slangasek | it sounds like things are going well | 16:43 |
| slangasek | we should have the desktop running in 640k of memory on the n7 by the end of the week, right? :) | 16:43 |
| * barry is having a flashback to 1981 | 16:44 | |
| cjwatson | It's certainly making me go through some truly elderly code | 16:44 |
| xnox | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/raring-targets well are we at the second marker yet? with desktop + firefox + thunderbird under 1GB of RAM or not ? | 16:45 |
| cjwatson | Mm, it'd be nice to have those table cells coloured with assessments | 16:46 |
| slangasek | hmm, not sure | 16:46 |
| ogra_ | ugh, thunderbird | 16:46 |
| cjwatson | I feel that I have very little idea of how much overall progress we're considered to have made | 16:46 |
| cjwatson | And how much remains | 16:46 |
| xnox | ogra_: it's not entirely clear if it's thunderbird or email webapp | 16:46 |
| slangasek | the web browser can take up 1GB on its own, so | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | i hope its not thunderbird | 16:47 |
| ev | relax guys, I'm sure it's mutt | 16:47 |
| xnox | =))))))) | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | with QML overlay ? | 16:47 |
| xnox | emacs what else does one need =) | 16:47 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| slangasek | ;P | 16:47 |
| ogra_ | heh | 16:48 |
| ev | I'm 29. | 16:48 |
| barry | xnox: emacs under 1gb? not mine! :) | 16:48 |
| ev | ONE GOOD YEAR LEFT! :-P | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | yeah, its over after that, let me tell you | 16:48 |
| ev | :D | 16:48 |
| jodh | ev: you'd better buy more tyres! | 16:48 |
| slangasek | ev: congrats :) | 16:48 |
| ogra_ | its starts with your hair ... then your teeth ... and then the rest falls off | 16:48 |
| ev | cheers | 16:48 |
| xnox | ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ ░H░A░P░P░Y░ (¯''•.¸*♥♥♥* ¸.•''¯) ░B░I░R░T░H░D░A░Y░ ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♫♪ | 16:49 |
| ev | g'aw | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | but you grow a lot new stuff right above the hips though | 16:49 |
| slangasek | xnox: is that the royalty-free version? :) | 16:49 |
| ev | hahaha, this has suddenly taken a turn for the graphic | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | happy birthday :) | 16:49 |
| ev | thanks! | 16:49 |
| slangasek | yes, I have several teeth right above my hips now | 16:49 |
| xnox | slangasek: it's irc equiv. of singing the song =) | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | happy b-day yeah :) | 16:49 |
| slangasek | they don't tell you that in the brochure | 16:49 |
| ev | might want to get that looked at | 16:49 |
| stgraber | happy birthday ev! | 16:49 |
| ev | thanks! | 16:49 |
| ogra_ | LOL | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | Nexus 7 competitive analysis: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/29/3929110/surface-pro-disk-space-windows-8 | 16:49 |
| cjwatson | ;-) | 16:49 |
| ev | hah! | 16:50 |
| slangasek | wow | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | hey but at least it can run for 4h on battery ! | 16:51 |
| barry | i'm sure they won't possibly get sued over that | 16:51 |
| xnox | /o\ | 16:51 |
| xnox | well I remember shaving off 7GB by stripping architectures off fat-binaries and languages translations from mac os x install... | 16:52 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Jan 30 16:53:11 2013 UTC. | 16:53 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-01-30-16.01.moin.txt | 16:53 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-01-30-16.01.html | 16:53 |
| slangasek | thanks everyone :) | 16:53 |
| barry | thanks! | 16:53 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 16:53 |
| ogra_ | thanks ! | 16:53 |
| xnox | cheers ;-) | 16:53 |
| jodh | thanks | 16:53 |
| ev | thanks! | 16:54 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| === solarcloud_3srcn is now known as solarcloud | ||
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