[10:57] <elbuntu> Hi Guys, I would like to help Ubuntu with testing pre-releases, apps etc... I am an Ubuntu user and develop web apps and also know JAVA, C++ & Gambas. How  do I get started?
[10:57] <jussi> !contribute | elbuntu
[10:59] <elbuntu> Thanks guys, I'll check the links out. :)
[16:01]  * slangasek waves
[16:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
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[16:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:02] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek ogra cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[16:02] <slangasek> bdmurray jodh ogra stgraber stokachu barry ev doko slangasek xnox cjwatson
[16:03] <bdmurray> Blueprints:
[16:03] <bdmurray> I was working on create and update a BucketSystems column family to keep track of unique systems in a bucket: TODO
[16:04] <bdmurray> and
[16:04] <bdmurray> Import developer to package and developer to team mappings and filter the default view on errors.ubuntu.com to problems the developer and their team are responsible for: TODO
[16:04] <bdmurray> there is a now a user view at errors.ubuntu.com which is part of that
[16:04] <bdmurray> I completed the following:
[16:04] <bdmurray> move stable release notes from archiveadmin page and put it in another page and link to it from the archiveadmin page and the SRU page: DONE
[16:05] <bdmurray> update SRU team documentation to mention that the security team should be pinged for any copies to the -security pocket: DONE
[16:05] <bdmurray> document pinging the SRU team member of the day in #ubuntu-release to escalate SRUs: DONE
[16:05] <bdmurray> other work:
[16:05] <bdmurray> irc discussion with evan regarding errors user parameter
[16:05] <bdmurray> setup of errors in an lxc environment linked to production cassandra
[16:05] <bdmurray> debugged user view on errors.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <bdmurray> setup rpdb2 on lxc versions of errors
[16:05] <bdmurray> added rpdb2 information to w.u.c/ErrorTracker/Deployment
[16:05] <bdmurray> sorted out issue with user parameter only working with one source package
[16:05] <bdmurray> landed fix for bug 1103156 regarding user parameter
[16:05] <bdmurray> uploaded software-center to raring fixing bug 1095823
[16:06] <bdmurray> uploaded software-center fix for bug 1095823 to P and Q
[16:06] <bdmurray> tested and uploaded fix for bug 1077113
[16:06] <bdmurray> testing fix for bug 1098235 regarding update-notifier and gksu
[16:06] <bdmurray> merge proposal for apport adding a policykit policy to allow pkexec to use apport-gtk
[16:06] <bdmurray> Q SRU verification of bug 1077253 regarding apport
[16:06] <bdmurray> updated w.u.c/StableReleaseUpdates per blueprints
[16:06] <bdmurray> research into functionality provided by update-notifier
[16:06] <bdmurray> documentation of update-notifier changes at w.u.c./UpdateNotifier
[16:06] <bdmurray> reported usb-creator bug 1108327 regaring ubuntu folder
[16:06] <bdmurray> done
[16:06] <jodh> * blueprints
[16:06] <jodh>   - foundations-r-upstart-roadmap: NOPROGRESS
[16:06] <jodh>   - foundations-r-arm-ubiquity: NOPROGRESS
[16:06] <jodh>   - foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements
[16:06] <jodh>     - merged lp:~stgraber/upstart/upstart-make-event-bridge-usable.
[16:06] <jodh>     - wrote lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/add-session-file.
[16:06] <jodh>     - wrote lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/remove-basic-user-sessions.
[16:06] <jodh>     - further investigations into session shutdown.
[16:06] <jodh>     - finished lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/initctl-list-sessions.
[16:07] <jodh>     - finished tests + doc for lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/setenv+getenv.
[16:07] <jodh>     - good progress on lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/event-prefixes.
[16:07] <jodh>     - branch updates based on review feedback.
[16:07] <jodh> œ
[16:07] <jodh>  
[16:07] <ogra_> done:
[16:07] <ogra_>  * ambient light support script added to nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * set up cpufreq configuration for the interactive governor used on the nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * hunting IS to get the livefs builder working again
[16:07] <ogra_>  * lots and lots of testing of fixes from others for the nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * enable usbnet alongside with teh serial gadget driver on teh nexus7 so serial over USB as well as direct TCP/IP via teh usb cable work now
[16:07] <ogra_>  * tested the new BT implementation on the nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * dropped all hardcoded screen rotation bits from nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * fix up a lot of teh gsettings overrides on nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * roughly looked into GPS on the nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_> todo:
[16:07] <ogra_>  * port nx7 images to xz compression (blocked on missing livefs builder)
[16:07] <ogra_>  * discuss livefs builder situation with infinity (carried over from last week, blocked on builder)
[16:07] <ogra_>  * fix plymouth vs console-setup racing somehow (likely needs cjwatson advice) to allow initrd-less booting
[16:07] <ogra_>  * port update-notifier to pkexec to fix onboard vs gksu issues
[16:07] <ogra_>  * add lux script for making the ambient light sensor work on the nexus7
[16:07] <ogra_>  * holding a UDW talk about the ubuntu image build infrastructure tomorrow and will likely bother cjwatson or infinity with a review of notes for the talk
[16:08] <slangasek> ogra_: I saw the RT has been updated; is the livefs builder working again today?
[16:08] <ogra_> yep
[16:08] <slangasek> ok, good
[16:08] <stgraber> ogra_: are you done?
[16:08] <ogra_> they got it working yesterday biut nobody noticed the stale lockfile
[16:09] <ogra_> infinity then saved us :)
[16:09] <ogra_> done
[16:09] <stgraber> Feature work:
[16:09] <stgraber>  - Upstart (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements)
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Session socket branch was merged
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Event bridge fixes branch was merged
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Planning the next steps (jobs, packaging, landing).
[16:09] <stgraber>  - Container (BLUEPRINT: servercloud-r-lxc)
[16:09] <stgraber>   - MIR: Updated libseccomp to run the test suite and asked for final ack from the MIR team.
[16:09] <bdmurray> ogra_: I'm almost done with the porting of update-notifier to pkexec
[16:09] <stgraber>   - MIR: Poked the MIR team about lxc.
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Code reviews.
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Planning 0.9~alpha3.
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Discussed plan for container/security/lxc micro-conference at LPC2013
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Fixed auto-upgrade-testing to work properly with LXC, now giving the same results as KVM but 2-3 times faster.
[16:09]  * ogra_ hugs bdmurray 
[16:09] <stgraber>  - Networking (BLUEPRINT: foundations-r-networking)
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Some apparmor fixes for the upcoming infiniband support
[16:09] <stgraber> Other work:
[16:09] <stgraber>  - Installer
[16:09] <stgraber>   - SRUed fix for casper bug 984276
[16:09] <stgraber>  - Networking
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Updated ofono in raring to latest upstream.
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Tested ofono with all the modems I had around.
[16:09] <stgraber>   - Started implementing a new ofono backed for NetworkManager. Now capable of listing the modems and properties, not quite connecting yet though.
[16:10] <stgraber> TODO:
[16:10] <stgraber>  - Try to finish any LXC feature work for this cycle (1 item left).
[16:10] <stgraber>  - Prepare some upstart user session debs with all our patches and the initial Xsession scripts and upstart jobs.
[16:10] <stgraber> (DONE)
[16:12] <slangasek> stokachu: around?  anything you want to report?
[16:12] <stokachu> oh sorry
[16:13] <stokachu> bug: 1103541, being reviewed
[16:13] <stokachu> bug: 1103644, has a new MP for review
[16:13] <stokachu> bug: 1023069, further investigation still seems to  point to a corrupt repo, will have further confirmation this week
[16:13] <stokachu> bug: 1077095, finished verification for Quantal
[16:13] <stokachu> done
[16:13] <barry> stokachu: i'll take another look at that mp later today
[16:13] <stokachu> barry: cool thanks man, hopefully got it sorted out for you
[16:14] <barry> you definitely picked a fun one :)
[16:14] <stokachu> hah and here i was hoping it was a low hanging fruit
[16:15] <slangasek> barry: your turn
[16:15] <barry> bug 1094823; bug 1103192; bug 1102875; bug 1110470
[16:16] <barry> reviewed/sponsored lp:~dobey/ubuntu/raring/twisted/fix-pygtkcompat
[16:16] <barry> reviewed/sponsored lp:~mitya57/ubuntu/raring/python3-defaults/resync
[16:16] <barry> experimented a bit with pybuild
[16:16] <barry> blueprint workitem for community-r-packaging-guide
[16:16] <barry> cx_Freeze 4.3.1 into raring
[16:16] <barry> blueprint workitem: investigating freezing of s-c for startup time improvement
[16:16] <barry> dmb meeting
[16:16] <barry> patch piloting (see previous report)
[16:16] <barry> foundations-r-python-oauth3: upstream released 0.3.5, now packaged in raring, which should unblock the 4 inprogress bugs.
[16:17] <barry> foundations-r-python-version: no further progress
[16:17] <barry> foundations-r-python33: DONE
[16:17] <barry> done
[16:17] <barry> (hmm, that first bug doesn't seem right)
[16:17] <ev> - My branch to group error reports that should not disturb the user with the
[16:17] <ev>   next one that should is ready for review:
[16:17] <ev>   https://code.launchpad.net/~ev/apport/grouped_reports/+merge/144591
[16:17] <ev> - Helping jjo get the error tracker infrastructure deployed to stagingstack \o/
[16:17] <barry> it was a s-c bug
[16:17] <ev> - Chat with James Troup on whether it makes sense to rework the retracers to
[16:17] <ev>   use EBS rather than ephemeral storage. EBS on OpenStack was *much* faster in
[16:17] <ev>   his tests, but he felt that using it now would be premature optimisation. We
[16:17] <ev>   can always scale out more retracers.
[16:17] <ev>   - Took an action to bolt gnuoy's script to clear the caches on 80% disk usage
[16:17] <ev>     to the prodstack infrastructure.
[16:17] <ev>   We also agreed that we can run the secondary single-node Cassandra cluster on
[16:17] <ev>   prodstack. This if you don't recall will be used for backup (both failover
[16:17] <ev>   and saving state) and non-write Hadoop jobs.
[16:18] <ev> - Dug deeper into d3.js over the weekend, refactoring a lot of the code I wrote
[16:18] <ev>   to create the average errors per calendar day graph. I'm trying to fix the
[16:18] <ev>   milestone and date overlap problem while making the full graph easier to
[16:18] <ev>   read.
[16:18] <ev> - Sprinting.
[16:18] <ev>   - Trying to bring whoopsie's memory usage down to a more acceptable level. I
[16:18] <ev>     replaced the Dbus-based NetworkManager calls with libnm calls, this getting
[16:18] <ev>     rid of a hard to track memory leak in our usage of GVariant. GVariant has
[16:18] <ev>     proven really difficult to get right since we started writing whoopsie.
[16:18] <ev>   - Plugged a few memory leaks discovered with valgrind.
[16:18] <ev>   - Built out tests to run whoopsie for 15 seconds under valgrind, then run the
[16:18] <ev>     entire test suite under valgrind. This means we run the suite twice, but I
[16:18] <ev>     think that's a reasonable compromise for being able to run tests using the
[16:18] <ev>     normal GLib memory allocator.
[16:18] <ev>   - Somehow memory usage has increased quite dramatically with all these
[16:18] <ev>     changes, so I'm bisecting.
[16:18] <ev>   - Started to look into reducing the number of wakeups in whoopsie. The big
[16:18] <ev>     cause of this at the moment is GNetworkMonitor, which we use to track
[16:18] <doko> slangasek just notes he doesn't have any irc connection at the moment
[16:18] <ev>     changes to the network state:
[16:18] <ev>     http://developer.gnome.org/gio/2.32/GNetworkMonitor.html#GNetworkMonitor-network-changed
[16:18] <ev> Blueprints have mostly remained unchanged this week with the sprint. I've taken
[16:18] <ev> on one additional workitem so far to reduce whoopsie's memory usage. Let me
[16:18] <ev> know if there's anything else I personally should be looking at. I'm keen on
[16:18] <ev> seeing how performant apport is on the Nexus 7 just as soon as I can figure out
[16:18] <ev> this VPN nonsense.
[16:18] <ev> (done!)
[16:18] <doko> done! or !done?
[16:19] <slangasek> unless I've fallen off the network suddenly :)
[16:19] <slangasek> why yes, I sure have
[16:19] <xnox> slangasek: you are back? =)
[16:19] <doko> - backported python3 cross build patches to 2.7, and the packaging. 2.7 is now able to cross-build
[16:19] <doko> - updated the python3.3 packaging to cross build
[16:19] <doko> - get cross build fixes upstream into 3.3 and trunk
[16:19] <doko> - cross-build python*-stdlib-extensions
[16:19] <doko> - cross-build zope.interface (as a proof of concept that cross-building simple packages using distutils/
[16:19] <doko> setuptools does work. See http://wiki.debian.org/Python/MultiArch for the details
[16:19] <doko> - TODO: fix dh_python* to rename to host names, not build names
[16:19] <doko> (done)
[16:21] <cjwatson> cross-build zope.interface> oh, *well done*
[16:22] <barry> doko: i may want to cross build cxfreeze, so i'll come to you if i have questions ;)
[16:24] <ev> doko: haha, just noticed that :)
[16:26] <cjwatson> slangasek: still back?
[16:26] <cjwatson> xnox: maybe you should go ahead
[16:26] <slangasek> ev: +1 on reducing whoopsie's memory usage & wakeups :)
[16:26] <cjwatson> aha
[16:26] <xnox> ..
[16:26] <xnox> Blueprints:
[16:26] <xnox> foundations-r-dh-apparmortemplate: Got reply from jamie, currently
[16:26] <xnox> it's not been worked on on the desktop side, hence will probably be postponed.
[16:26] <xnox> foundations-r-arm-usb-creator-fastboot-support:
[16:26] <xnox> complete from usb-creator side, uploaded with nexus7 support into
[16:26] <xnox> raring. Not sure if we will change the way we publish images.
[16:26] <xnox> * porting usb-creator to udisks2 api to drop udisks1 from the CD
[16:26] <xnox>   (udisks2 api is significantly different)
[16:26] <xnox> * Fixed bug #656009
[16:27] <xnox> * Looking into other powertop wakeups
[16:27] <xnox> * Giving a quick demo "Fixing packages to cross-build" for Developer week tomorrow
[16:27] <xnox> * Going to FOSDEM on friday.
[16:27] <xnox> * Reviewed ubiquity branches from ~kylix, got legal ok to merge them.
[16:27] <ev> slangasek: excellent, I was worried about how wanted that would be
[16:27] <xnox> * fix a crash in software-center bug #1105021 while trying to verify
[16:27] <xnox>   app-install-data-partner quantal sru
[16:27] <xnox> ..
[16:27] <cjwatson> No blueprint progress to speak of this week, mainly due to sprinting.  Still awaiting review on LP change for foundations-r-phased-updates (I've just poked the maintenance squad about it).
[16:27] <xnox> (and that still didn't get uploaded into the archive... maybe I should upload it as well.)
[16:27] <cjwatson> Merged about half of our remaining grub2 delta back to Debian, and working on ideas for merging some of the rest, as the size of our delta has been a pain; not uploaded yet.
[16:28] <cjwatson> 12.04.2 prep: uploaded base-files, sent status mail, promotions to -updates including the X.org enablement stack, continuing reviews
[16:28] <cjwatson> Nexus 7 sprint:
[16:28] <cjwatson>  - Fixed valgrind to not strip vgpreload* on ARM so you don't need valgrind-dbg, and applied patch to implement VCVT.F64.[SU]32 instructions.
[16:28] <cjwatson>  - Fixed memory leaks in upower.
[16:28] <cjwatson>  - Tracked down some of update-notifier's memory use (and probably others) to incorrect timestamps created by installer bug; filed bug report which has been fixed.
[16:28] <cjwatson>  - Mailed ubuntu-devel about some strategies and tools for attacking memory leaks.
[16:28] <cjwatson>  - Further work on update-notifier, trying to find more memory inefficiencies since I think its use is unreasonable.  I'm going to need to tidy up some more before I can see the real problems.
[16:28] <cjwatson> ..
[16:29]  * ogra_ notices that sadly updating the icon cache still levaes me with 620M for an idling desktop
[16:29] <ogra_> (according to htop)
[16:29] <slangasek>  * nexus7 sprinting: reviewing upstart branches so that we can enable user sessions
[16:29] <slangasek>  * systemd packaging
[16:29] <slangasek>  * SRU processing for 12.04.2
[16:29] <slangasek>  * BP status:
[16:29] <slangasek>   * foundations-r-secure-boot: in progress
[16:30] <slangasek>   * foundations-r-session-management: systemd packaging in progress
[16:30] <slangasek>   * foundations-r-improve-cross-compilation: stalled; will look at this next month
[16:30] <slangasek>   * foundations-r-opt-installation: no progress to report; will start on this next month
[16:30] <slangasek> (done)
[16:30] <slangasek> any questions?
[16:30] <ev> cjwatson: hmm, I wonder if we should have something approaching a common valgrind suppressions file for these glib/gtk based applications
[16:31] <kyleN> dholbach, Hi. How can I attend/discover achiang's UDW session g+ hangout in 30 minutes?
[16:31] <cjwatson> heh, achiang asked that too
[16:31] <cjwatson> I think most of those are not really suppressable - the bulk are reference cycles and such
[16:32] <cjwatson> but I guess you mean singletons
[16:32] <ev> cjwatson: yeah, did you get anywhere with refdbg, by the way? It looks fairly dead upstream.
[16:32] <ev> yeah, there are a few things here and there
[16:32] <dholbach> kyleN, http://ubuntuonair.com
[16:32] <cjwatson> I actually think it'd be better to finish pushing gtk up the hill such that you can actually free those properly on exit - there've been a few upstream bugs about it over the years and general consensus that we should
[16:33] <ev> excellent. I'm all for that
[16:33] <cjwatson> ev: refdbg> next on the list - it does at least still build (you need libglib2.0-0-refdbg)
[16:33] <ev> it's a shame that there's no such thing for the gvariant case, but oh well
[16:33] <cjwatson> no which thing?
[16:34] <ev> refdbg
[16:34] <cjwatson> ah, didn't realise it didn't handle gvariants
[16:34] <ev> I don't *think* it does, but don't quote me
[16:35] <cjwatson> Maybe it's not enough of a GTye
[16:35] <cjwatson> *GType
[16:35] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[16:35] <slangasek> bdmurray: not sure if there's anything this week since we're all mobiling?
[16:36] <ev> I thought it was more that gvariant lives off in its own excessively-optimised little world and that http://developer.gnome.org/gobject/stable/tools-refdb.html wouldn't work
[16:36] <slangasek> (not to be confused with moblining)
[16:36] <ev> but I haven't dug deep enough - I just ended up throwing in a convincing enough struct to check the refcounts manually
[16:36] <bdmurray> slangasek: I have not seen anything other than the carry over bug 1093819 from last week.  What is the next step there?
[16:36] <ogra_> something like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-nexus7 ?
[16:36] <ogra_> :)
[16:38] <slangasek> bdmurray: next step is to look at the build system for the wubi image and figure out if something is removing the file
[16:40] <slangasek> bdmurray: as I noted in the bug log, dpkg's postinst should work unconditionally on initial install
[16:41] <slangasek> bdmurray: can you carry that investigation forward, since you've been looking at it so far?
[16:41] <bdmurray> slangasek: looking at the build system?
[16:42] <slangasek> bdmurray: yes
[16:42] <bdmurray> slangasek: sure
[16:42] <slangasek> cheers
[16:42] <slangasek> bdmurray:
[16:42] <slangasek> oops, sorry
[16:42] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Mobile sprint
[16:43] <slangasek> anybody want to say anything wrt the sprint that hasn't already been said?
[16:43] <slangasek> it sounds like things are going well
[16:43] <slangasek> we should have the desktop running in 640k of memory on the n7 by the end of the week, right? :)
[16:44]  * barry is having a flashback to 1981
[16:44] <cjwatson> It's certainly making me go through some truly elderly code
[16:45] <xnox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/raring-targets well are we at the second marker yet? with desktop + firefox + thunderbird under 1GB of RAM or not ?
[16:46] <cjwatson> Mm, it'd be nice to have those table cells coloured with assessments
[16:46] <slangasek> hmm, not sure
[16:46] <ogra_> ugh, thunderbird
[16:46] <cjwatson> I feel that I have very little idea of how much overall progress we're considered to have made
[16:46] <cjwatson> And how much remains
[16:46] <xnox> ogra_: it's not entirely clear if it's thunderbird or email webapp
[16:47] <slangasek> the web browser can take up 1GB on its own, so
[16:47] <ogra_> i hope its not thunderbird
[16:47] <ev> relax guys, I'm sure it's mutt
[16:47] <xnox> =)))))))
[16:47] <ogra_> with QML overlay ?
[16:47] <xnox> emacs what else does one need =)
[16:47] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:47] <slangasek> ;P
[16:48] <ogra_> heh
[16:48] <ev> I'm 29.
[16:48] <barry> xnox: emacs under 1gb?  not mine! :)
[16:48] <ev> ONE GOOD YEAR LEFT! :-P
[16:48] <ogra_> yeah, its over after that, let me tell you
[16:48] <ev> :D
[16:48] <jodh> ev: you'd better buy more tyres!
[16:48] <slangasek> ev: congrats :)
[16:48] <ogra_> its starts with your hair ... then your teeth ... and then the rest falls off
[16:48] <ev> cheers
[16:49] <xnox> ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ ░H░A░P░P░Y░ (¯''•.¸*♥♥♥* ¸.•''¯) ░B░I░R░T░H░D░A░Y░ ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♫♪
[16:49] <ev> g'aw
[16:49] <ogra_> but you grow a lot new stuff right above the hips though
[16:49] <slangasek> xnox: is that the royalty-free version? :)
[16:49] <ev> hahaha, this has suddenly taken a turn for the graphic
[16:49] <cjwatson> happy birthday :)
[16:49] <ev> thanks!
[16:49] <slangasek> yes, I have several teeth right above my hips now
[16:49] <xnox> slangasek: it's irc equiv. of singing the song =)
[16:49] <ogra_> happy b-day yeah :)
[16:49] <slangasek> they don't tell you that in the brochure
[16:49] <ev> might want to get that looked at
[16:49] <stgraber> happy birthday ev!
[16:49] <ev> thanks!
[16:49] <ogra_> LOL
[16:49] <cjwatson> Nexus 7 competitive analysis: http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/29/3929110/surface-pro-disk-space-windows-8
[16:49] <cjwatson> ;-)
[16:50] <ev> hah!
[16:51] <slangasek> wow
[16:51] <ogra_> hey but at least it can run for 4h on battery !
[16:51] <barry> i'm sure they won't possibly get sued over that
[16:51] <xnox>  /o\
[16:52] <xnox> well I remember shaving off 7GB by stripping architectures off fat-binaries and languages translations from mac os x install...
[16:53] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:53] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Jan 30 16:53:11 2013 UTC.
[16:53] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-01-30-16.01.moin.txt
[16:53] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-01-30-16.01.html
[16:53] <slangasek> thanks everyone :)
[16:53] <barry> thanks!
[16:53] <stgraber> thanks!
[16:53] <ogra_> thanks !
[16:53] <xnox> cheers ;-)
[16:53] <jodh> thanks
[16:54] <ev> thanks!