=== yuki-onna_ is now known as yuki-onna [00:59] l === dale is now known as luckyphuq [20:38] hey guys, having a problem with one of my frontends... its remote has disappeared [20:38] i have tried removing the remote through mcc, which removed lirc [20:39] then added it again, which reinstalled lirc, and i choose auto button mappings [20:39] i then tried irw with lird running and stopped, which shows no remote activity [20:40] irw /dev/lirc0 throws an error connect: connection refused [20:40] any ideas what i should try next? [20:40] James2: what kind of remote [20:41] and have you upgraded the system lately? (from one version of ubuntu to another)? [20:41] mce usb remote [20:41] and yes was updated earlier using apt-get, but apparantly it wasnt working before that [20:41] but was just an update of 12.04 0.26 [20:41] a load of stuff was held back [20:42] a few versions ago lirc was replaced with an in kernel option for generic mce remotes [20:42] if you didn't upgrade from an older version you shouldn't be hitting that though [20:43] I;d look at what is being held back, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get them [20:43] ok i was upsing apt-get upgrade earlier [20:44] dist-upgrade gives a whole different list of updates [20:54] ok backend is rebooting after a dist upgrade and new kernel [20:54] will do the frontend with a problem in a mo [21:30] ok frontend is now fully up to date on 12.04 and 0.26 [21:30] lirc is not installed, and i still have no remote.. what to do? [21:34] James2: I'd configure your remote via mythbuntu-control-centre [21:34] which will install lirc [21:35] ok its installing atm [21:38] ok all done via mcc, and still no remote [21:43] irw still shows 0 activity from the reciever [21:56] any clues? [22:06] James2: lsmod |grep mceusb [22:06] run that [22:07] mceusb 18143 0 [22:07] rc_core 26412 13 ir_lirc_codec,ir_mce_kbd_decoder,ir_sony_decoder,ir_jvc_decoder,ir_rc6_decoder,rc_imon_pad,ir_rc5_decoder,imon,ir_nec_decoder,rc_rc6_mce,mceusb [22:08] actually I'm seeing that on one of my boxes too, hmmm [22:08] I was expecting to not get a hit [22:09] you have the same issue, its just dead remote, light on reciever flashes, but irw doesnt show up any input [22:09] (for any remote) [22:09] if so let me know how you fix yours :P [22:11] James2: sudo apt-get install evtest [22:12] mine is fine, but I supect you might have the kernel grabbing your keystrokes and not lirc [22:12] in which case you don't really need lirc [22:19] incidentally i have 2 boxes, this frontend, and its backend/frontend upstairs [22:19] same configs, same remotes, etc [22:19] the one upstairs is fine [22:20] and change to no additional remote in mcc so it removes lirc? [22:21] and reboot? and? [22:22] well use evtest to verify first [22:22] James2: same IR receiver on both [22:23] James2: I'm a little confused here, I thought that the in kernel lirc only worked for the generics and that the official ones were not used with that [22:23] slightly different versions [22:23] but I seem to have both the old lirc driver and the in kernel one on my system [22:23] yeah both of mine were using lirc afaik [22:23] superm1 played with the in kernel stuff for the official ones lately, so I'm hoping he can shed some light on it [22:23] the frontend also has an lcd panel [22:25] James2: gotta head home, I'll check back in later tonight [22:25] James2: you can read up about lirc's devinput [22:25] if it is using the in kernel driver then you can use devinput to access it in lirc [22:25] but I think you don't really need lirc in that event as long as the remote matches up to what you want mythtv to see [22:25] if you need a translation in between then you still need lirc [22:26] well the crucial thing is having the same button mappings on both remotes [22:26] so for instance if you wanted up on the remote to send the letter d to mythtv [22:26] in case customer decides to walk between rooms holding one :P [22:27] well in theory as long as the remote is seen by both then your lirc configuration can be differnt [22:27] ok heading out, good luck [22:45] James2: did you isolate whether this was caused by the kernel update? [22:45] try booting into an older kernel? [22:53] it stopped working before the kernel update [22:54] i can see the reciever, but i cant see where (if anywhere) it is sending notifications [22:55] this machine also has a [22:55] ID 15c2:0038 SoundGraph Inc. GD01 MX LCD Display/IR Receiver [22:56] if i could configure that reciever with the mce_usb remote that would be wicked [22:56] and just do away with the mce_usb reciever [22:59] do you know if that device is able to receive rc6 remote protocol? [22:59] good to know it wasn't busted by the kernel update though [23:00] i think the imon actually can receive rc6 according to http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2012-August/338196.html [23:00] so you probably could do away with the mceusb receiver and do it all through imon [23:03] yeah im just looking into that [23:03] would be nicer to lose the reciever