| Noskcaj | just found a bug in 12.10, at least xubuntu amd64. when you make a program open in half the screen by dragging it to the top, pressing the maximise button maxes the top part of the window go above the screen | 06:25 |
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| Noskcaj | ping to anyone here | 08:17 |
| jibel | good morning | 08:30 |
| Noskcaj | evening jibel | 08:31 |
| pitti | jibel: bonjour! | 08:31 |
| jibel | Hey pitti Noskcaj | 08:31 |
| pitti | jibel: FYI, I fixed the hanging xvfb and lost processes on rabisu this morning, so https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/JHBuild%20Gnome/ is getting blue again | 08:31 |
| Noskcaj | are either of you guys able to run a daily install for me? | 08:32 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:32 |
| pitti | jibel: I just "damaged" all checksums in the data file, that ought to trigger a complete rebuild, right? | 08:33 |
| jibel | pitti, ah, good. I killed some stalled dbus processes yesterday evening, I'll need to add a proper cleanup after the runs | 08:33 |
| jibel | pitti, yes, it will | 08:33 |
| pitti | jibel: they all failed with "Xvfb: failed to start" because of the lingering Xvfb process | 08:33 |
| Noskcaj | bug 1087409, please confirm outside of Vbox | 08:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1087409 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "*buntu dailys take 3 minutes to get to the next screen if install mp3 is selected." [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087409 | 08:34 |
| jibel | pitti, yes, that's pretty common, about once a week | 08:34 |
| pitti | Noskcaj: there's not much to debug there, it's pretty clear what happens AFAIK | 08:34 |
| pitti | Noskcaj: same effect when you install it on a laptop with a broadcom wifi | 08:34 |
| pitti | there's a missing progress report UI from ubiquity | 08:35 |
| Noskcaj | pitti, my issue is it only appears with the mp3 selected | 08:35 |
| pitti | Noskcaj: yes, that will trigger the "install additional/non-free drivers" functionality | 08:36 |
| pitti | the VB driver is not really non-free, but it's an UI design compromise | 08:36 |
| Noskcaj | ok, just realised my fault, nvm | 08:36 |
| pitti | Noskcaj: well, not "your fault" really, it really does sit there for a while doing nothing | 08:36 |
| jibel | Noskcaj, lack of feedback is a UI bug IMO | 08:37 |
| pitti | Noskcaj: I'm just saying that this is "triaged" | 08:37 |
| * pitti adjusts | 08:37 | |
| pitti | Noskcaj: bug updated | 08:38 |
| Noskcaj | ok, ty | 08:38 |
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| pitti | jibel: we don't run libo upstream tests for raring any more, do we? | 10:31 |
| pitti | https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/search/?q=libreoffice | 10:31 |
| pitti | and all of the four have a last build in November | 10:31 |
| pitti | jibel: or has that been entirely replaced with the bibisect stuff? | 10:31 |
| jibel | pitti, bibisect does't replace it and it's lower priority because they are run as part of the build in the PPA. | 10:34 |
| jibel | pitti, and I didn't have time to activate daily builds for raring yet | 10:35 |
| pitti | jibel: ah, ok; thanks for the heads-up! | 10:35 |
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| dholbach | pitti, is http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test all we need to point a potential test case reviewer at? or do you feel we should add something there? or on a separate page on the wiki maybe? | 11:52 |
| pitti | hey dholbach | 12:16 |
| pitti | dholbach: that's the operational bits indeed; if that fails, it's definitively not ready yet, so it's a really good check | 12:16 |
| pitti | dholbach: it should also be "sensible" in the context of the package, of course (but that's true with anything you sponsor of course) | 12:17 |
| dholbach | pitti, perfect, thanks | 12:23 |
| dholbach | pitti, could you imagine doing a quick hangout to talk people through a test or two - we could do it in an "interview" format - we could do it earlier on Friday and then point people to the youtube link later on | 12:31 |
| pitti | dholbach: sure, let's try that | 12:38 |
| dholbach | pitti, shall we pick a time already? | 12:38 |
| pitti | dholbach: I have a dentist appointment at 10:30; so earlier, or after 11:15 | 12:38 |
| dholbach | will you be able to talk after the appointment? :) | 12:39 |
| pitti | yeah, it's no big deal :) | 12:39 |
| dholbach | then let's do it afterwards - you might be more relaxed then :-P | 12:39 |
| pitti | I shall point out that hangouts are still working exceptionally bad, though | 12:40 |
| dholbach | ok | 12:40 |
| pitti | so we might need to move to IRC | 12:40 |
| dholbach | we can try it and if it fails, I can try to do it | 12:40 |
| dholbach | or that | 12:40 |
| dholbach | I would be a very poor substitute for TEH PITTI :) | 12:41 |
| pitti | well, so are hangouts :) | 12:41 |
| pitti | there's nothign I can point to :) | 12:41 |
| dholbach | :-) | 12:41 |
| pitti | that was much easier IRL at UDS | 12:41 |
| dholbach | yeah :) | 12:42 |
| pitti | dholbach: hey, can we try a hangout now? I'll try on my mobile | 12:42 |
| dholbach | sure | 12:42 |
| dholbach | let me invite you - just a sec | 12:42 |
| pitti | dholbach: ah, already invited you | 12:43 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 12:43 |
| pitti | dholbach: can't hear you | 12:44 |
| dholbach | greyback, did I see it correctly - you live in Berlin? :) | 13:25 |
| greyback | dholbach: correct | 13:45 |
| greyback | dholbach: I moved there about 3 months ago | 13:45 |
| dholbach | greyback, very nice - I had no idea :) | 13:45 |
| cprofitt | morning everyone | 14:11 |
| roadmr | hello! | 14:12 |
| cprofitt | how is your day going roadmr ? | 14:12 |
| roadmr | cprofitt: fine so far :) yours? | 14:12 |
| cprofitt | It is going well for a first day back to work from being ill | 14:14 |
| cprofitt | lots of catching up to do | 14:14 |
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| cprofitt | balloons: ping | 14:33 |
| cprofitt | or anyone else really | 14:33 |
| cprofitt | any advice on how to best schedule a meeting for a team that appears to be equally split by a 5-6 hour time difference? | 14:33 |
| cprofitt | I am using a doodle poll right now... | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | cprofitt, you mean on Ubuntu Friendly uh? | 14:34 |
| cprofitt | smartboyhw: yeah | 14:34 |
| cprofitt | trying to get UF to have some regular meetings | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | cprofitt, so if it has a 5-6 hour differece, set the later one at it's local time 16:00, and set the earlier one 10:00 | 14:35 |
| cprofitt | the one I am working on now is really just an initial meeting, but I truly believe some form of regular meeting keeps teams on-track | 14:35 |
| cprofitt | I was really looking to have one meeting not two different ones, but I guess having two could work | 14:36 |
| cprofitt | I had not considered that | 14:36 |
| smartboyhw | cprofitt, how would it work? | 14:36 |
| cprofitt | on the poll I put two early evening GMT times and two early evening UTC times | 14:36 |
| cprofitt | I do not know... I thought that was what your suggestion was | 14:36 |
| cprofitt | smartboyhw: I assume you were not talking about having two different meetings, but how to list the options on Doodle? | 14:38 |
| smartboyhw | cprofitt, I never used doodle:P | 14:39 |
| cprofitt | ah. | 14:41 |
| cprofitt | Doodle is just a poll system for trying to find the optimal meeting time | 14:41 |
| cprofitt | lets people vote on which time(s) they can meet. | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw | cprofitt, just ask the guys who are interested in this first... | 14:41 |
| cprofitt | yep, that is what has been done. | 14:42 |
| cprofitt | just struggling with the idea of cutting half the team out of a meeting | 14:42 |
| cprofitt | the first set of responses only resulted in less than half the interested folks being able participate at any one time | 14:43 |
| cprofitt | perhaps setting up an asychronous system would work better, but I have not used too many of those. | 14:43 |
| cprofitt | most of those are most 'task' oriented and not discussion | 14:44 |
| cprofitt | phillw: ping you around? | 14:44 |
| phillw | cprofitt: indeed i am :) | 14:44 |
| cprofitt | thanks for voting so quickly in the poll | 14:45 |
| phillw | saves me forgetting to vote :) | 14:45 |
| cprofitt | you have any good ideas on how to ensure we get input from everyone despite the 5-6 hour time split in the team? | 14:45 |
| phillw | as you have the EP set up, it is a case of reminding people to put ideas on to it. | 14:47 |
| cprofitt | EP? | 14:48 |
| phillw | ether pad http://pad.ubuntu.com/sClb0uH2g8 | 14:48 |
| cprofitt | ah, yes | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, hmm getting a new life at packaging now:) | 14:48 |
| phillw | you have a suggestion already from me :) | 14:49 |
| cprofitt | thanks Phillw | 14:49 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: great :) Have you decided on a time for your session? | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, as you reminded me now, I will set it at 19th Feb 13:00 UTC | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | Final date:) | 14:49 |
| phillw | can you edit the wiki page and let Lyz know :) | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, ok | 14:50 |
| phillw | you may want to add to the wiki page that people will need an iso ! | 14:51 |
| cprofitt | phillw: was that directed towards me? | 14:52 |
| cprofitt | the wiki page and lyz? | 14:52 |
| cprofitt | UWN? | 14:52 |
| cprofitt | I do think the wiki page needs editing, but was not sure if it should be tackled before some things had been ironed out | 14:53 |
| phillw | cprofitt: no, sorry, it was for smartboyhw | 14:56 |
| phillw | finally nailed down the last -classroom time & date on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom | 14:57 |
| cprofitt | phillw: ok | 15:03 |
| cprofitt | good, glad you got classroom filled | 15:03 |
| cprofitt | sorry that with everything going on I could not do a session | 15:03 |
| phillw | cprofitt: a classroom can be done at any time. Just give the classroom people a poke whenever UF wants to hold one. They're a great way to get noticed :) | 15:11 |
| smartboyhw | phillw, thx | 15:12 |
| cprofitt | phillw: yep, thanks | 15:47 |
| cprofitt | wow... I never realized that the UK got so little snow | 15:51 |
| balloons | thomi, you about yet | 17:29 |
| balloons | ? | 17:29 |
| thomi | balloons: I am now | 17:41 |
| thomi | *yawn* | 17:41 |
| thomi | balloons: what's up? | 17:42 |
| balloons | well, shoot.. I didn't say anything in here, but thomi and I just hosted an autopilot session for udw | 19:05 |
| thomi | haha | 19:10 |
| TLoT | how thoroughly has the 12.04.1 ISO been tested? | 20:09 |
| TLoT | for installation? | 20:09 |
| TLoT | ??? | 20:13 |
| balloons | TLoT, prior to release we did a full workup | 20:16 |
| TLoT | to what extent? | 20:17 |
| TLoT | because https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/220961 seems to be occurring on this system | 20:17 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 220961 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] ubiquity crashes instead of notifying the user of not enough disk space" [High,Triaged] | 20:17 |
| TLoT | brand new 750GB drive | 20:17 |
| TLoT | (apport triggered that) | 20:17 |
| TLoT | i'm trying a reinstall to see whether the partition schema i set up is the cause | 20:18 |
| balloons | hmm | 20:18 |
| TLoT | (shouldn't be!) | 20:18 |
| balloons | do you have logs from the install? | 20:18 |
| TLoT | none that i can share | 20:18 |
| TLoT | i'm not willing to divulge my information unless bugcontrol decides to wake up and answer my quesiton in -bugs | 20:18 |
| TLoT | (the logs would contain password data) | 20:19 |
| balloons | TLoT -- no, it won't have that personal data in it | 20:19 |
| balloons | you can see what's in the logs anyways | 20:19 |
| TLoT | balloons: the debug logs that apport were collecting said that it would have it | 20:19 |
| balloons | and you should/could check | 20:19 |
| TLoT | so unless apport is LYING | 20:19 |
| balloons | but you didn't get that far did you? I mean to the user install | 20:20 |
| balloons | username choice | 20:20 |
| TLoT | good question | 20:20 |
| TLoT | it said "installing system" | 20:20 |
| TLoT | and then went boom | 20:20 |
| balloons | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingUbiquity | 20:20 |
| TLoT | no time, i have to head out to a meeting | 20:20 |
| TLoT | if it errors out again i'll be back | 20:21 |
| * TLoT will remain connected in lurkmode | 20:21 | |
| balloons | TLoT, ok -- the logs are deifnitely helpful in this case | 20:21 |
| TLoT | balloons: and you'll know if i get back, there'll be me raging at the computer. | 20:21 |
| TLoT | whatever log(s) existed are likely being overwritten as we speak | 20:21 |
| TLoT | it could very well have just been the partition setup i had | 20:21 |
| balloons | kk | 20:21 |
| TLoT | but we'll see | 20:21 |
| * TLoT told it to not update as it goes, so... | 20:22 | |
| * TLoT runs off | 20:22 | |
| TLoT | okay, that's... interesting | 20:24 |
| TLoT | it seems to have resolved itself? | 20:24 |
| TLoT | so... creating 3 partitions is too hard for it? | 20:24 |
| TLoT | HUH? | 20:24 |
| * TLoT shrugs | 20:24 | |
| TLoT | back later | 20:24 |
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| epikvision | Hello ubuntu quality! I am installing raring into my desktop and something is wrong. | 22:24 |
| epikvision | Hopefully, this is the right place to ask. First of all, i just installed raring straight from a daily image amd64. But after reboot, I see a blue screen called Memtest86. | 22:26 |
| balloons | epikvision, is the disc still in the system? | 22:27 |
| balloons | memtest86 is an option from the iso | 22:27 |
| epikvision | No, it rebooted straight to memtest without the disc. | 22:28 |
| epikvision | Now i see an exploding list of red and errors piling in mounds. | 22:29 |
| epikvision | balloons It passed up to 46%. | 22:29 |
| balloons | epikvision, very odd | 22:30 |
| balloons | did you install to your physical machine? | 22:30 |
| balloons | you don't even get a boot menu? | 22:30 |
| epikvision | Yes, although installation was perfect, it passed the intel boot splash screen, but it didnt make it to login screen. | 22:33 |
| * epikvision waves at balloons. | 22:47 | |
| balloons | so epikvision I hope that takes care of your issues ;-) | 23:18 |
| balloons | glad you got raring going on your laptop | 23:18 |
| epikvision | balloons I hope so too. I remember installing a daily build a while back, and i encountered the same error. | 23:19 |
| epikvision | balloons, its ok! Multitasking can bring up some inevitable bumps. | 23:21 |
| balloons | :-) | 23:21 |
| epikvision | Ok i filed it. LP #1110875 | 23:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1110875 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "After installation, raring build boots to memtest " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1110875 | 23:25 |
| xnox | /o\ | 23:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | o.o | 23:26 |
| TheLordOfTime | balloons, you may want to make a note somewhere that ubiquity may need to be beaten with a hammer - creating more than 2 partitions using the manual partitioner breaks things. | 23:27 |
| TheLordOfTime | which is what caused the initial implodification | 23:27 |
| epikvision | I know, it's strange. | 23:27 |
| epikvision | thanks balloons for the reporting walkthrough! | 23:31 |
| balloons | TheLordOfTime, heh, back eh? | 23:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | balloons, with a working system yes., | 23:32 |
| balloons | xnox is here, or hiding.. not sure.. but there is etheir a bug, or an explaination | 23:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | indeed | 23:33 |
| balloons | we should settle it | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | can you wait about 10 minutes?/ | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | i am recovering data to incorporate for a reboot... | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | so... | 23:33 |
| * TheLordOfTime is rebooting inot the new working system | 23:33 | |
| TheLordOfTime | s/inot/into/ | 23:33 |
| xnox | i'm looking at the logs from epikvision's bug and I'm not seeing anything strange happening in the syslog yet... | 23:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | and we're back :P | 23:55 |
| TheLordOfTime | xnox: do you know of any bugs in ubiquity or otherwise which would cause the installer to say "insufficient space" during installation? perhaps if i have "Update software during installation" selected? | 23:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | balloons: ^ | 23:56 |
| xnox | for example - if you have more ram than disk-space we incorrectly create massive swap and only 2GB '/' which is not enough to complete the install. | 23:58 |
| xnox | or otherwise passed the "have sufficient space check" but created '/' of 2GB | 23:59 |
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