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Frozenthia: (00:00
SalMiAny hackers here ?! :/00:00
histogmachine_24: Grub doesn't remain if you install windows.  It installs it's bootloader to the mbr00:00
gmachine_24histo, not in my experience.00:00
ESphynxmillennia: lolz00:00
gmachine_24histo, Grub remains.00:00
SalMiHELLLLO00:00
FrozenthiaIs Kubuntu a forbidden topic? I need help. : S00:00
histogmachine_24: sure in windows fdisk /mbr   would write it's bootloader.  Or whatever they are using now. fixmbr I think00:00
SalMi;D00:00
sevensixtwoSalMi, do you expect people to raise their hand?00:00
ESphynxIt's installing :P00:00
histogmachine_24: fixmbr c:   from a windows cd will overwrite it.00:01
SalMijust messing around duude :P\00:01
SalMihmmm00:01
histogmachine_24: However I would write zero's to the drive. People like me could recover your old files even after you loaded windows if you don't00:01
FrozenthiaWell, thanks for the help. >_>00:01
gmachine_24SalMi this is not 4chan. Do you have an Ubuntu question or problem?00:01
SalMiYah00:02
gmachine_24histo, yes, I know. I overwrite all drives. Just trying something new.00:02
sam555hello all!00:02
SalMiHow do u change ur background :$00:02
histolol00:02
gmachine_24SalMi, do you mean desktop?00:02
SalMiYah .. desktop background00:02
gmachine_24sam555, questions and problems, please.00:02
SalMiHow ..00:02
sam555I want to change a password that is very similar to the one I just entered, but it won't let me.  How do I get past this?00:02
lucas_Hello friends, I am having difficulty using some symbols in Ubuntu.Example: ¬ or §00:02
gmachine_24SalMi, preferences>desktop settings or right click on the desktop00:03
SalMiSHIT NO !!!00:03
SalMi:P00:03
FloodBot1SalMi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.00:03
gmachine_24language please00:03
barrettman this channel is usually packed...00:03
SalMiSorry :P00:03
SalMiWaz just messing around guys ..00:04
SalMiBtw00:04
mernilioHi all! :-)00:04
gmachine_24sam555, you want to change an existing password to a new one?00:04
SalMiis the Ubuntu for android phone has the same as the Ubuntu phone operating system ?00:04
SalMi:$00:04
histo!phone | SalMi00:05
ubottuSalMi: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone00:05
merniliowhy havent i been here before? you all seem like a nice bunch! :-)00:05
ESphynxthis is awesome. love how changing compiz settings render my desktop unusable00:05
SalMiOhhh .. THANKS DUUDE :D00:05
gmachine_24guys, come on, questions and problems. this is not a social chat room.00:05
barrettcan anyone help me figure out why my mdadm raid5 isn't coming on line?00:05
gmachine_24!offtopic or whatever00:05
ubottugmachine_24: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:05
merniliosorry! ;-)00:06
w0rm-_xgmachine_24, it is both00:06
gmachine_24ubottu, it never occurred to me.00:06
ubottugmachine_24: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:06
w0rm-_xESphynx, thinking of getting rid of it, too buggy00:06
lucas_Hello friends, I have some difficulty for using some symbols in Ubuntu. For example: ¬ or §. How to configure the keyboard correctly for that?00:06
ESphynxw0rm-_x: Unity? it's the worst00:06
w0rm-_xESphynx, compiz00:06
ESphynxwell compiz was OK until Unity came along :P00:07
SalMiI think unity is a gr8 interface :P00:08
w0rm-_xESphynx, I don't know if the existence of both would create a conflict, only started to have problems when setting Compiz up..00:08
ESphynxw0rm-_x: hmm compiz normally comes with ubuntu/unity does it not?00:09
w0rm-_xESphynx, no00:09
ESphynxIt does for me?00:09
SalMiwell its not buggy here .. I have an i5 intel quad core processor, 8 gb ram and Radeon 657000:09
SalMiWorks gr8 for me .. not buggy at all00:09
w0rm-_xESphynx, that's weird00:09
w0rm-_xSalMi, which one?00:09
SalMiWht do u mean which one ? :P Unity .. sorry for my english :/00:10
w0rm-_xI'm thinking of shutting the whole Ubuntu thing off and switch to Debian00:10
_lucas_br_Hello friends, I have some difficulty for using some symbols in Ubuntu. For example: ¬ or §. How to configure the keyboard correctly for that?00:10
SalMiGuys can someone answer that lucas guy he has been asking the same question for like 15 minutes ...00:11
androsexit00:11
barrettwhere is everyone?00:11
histo!patience _lucas_br_ SalMi00:12
ubottuhisto: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:12
w0rm-_x_lucas_br_, what do you mean by difficulty?00:12
histo!patience | _lucas_br_ SalMi00:12
ubottu_lucas_br_ SalMi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:12
gmachine_24barrett, everyone as in . . . .00:12
_lucas_br_Okay...00:12
w0rm-_x!patience | histo00:12
ubottuhisto: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/00:12
SalMican i swear here ?! :P00:12
Picino00:13
histow0rm-_x: I don't think you will be pleased with debian. If you want ot take a break for awhile and try something completely different check out Arch00:13
sam555gmachine_24: I won't to change the password to something very similar to the previous password, but it won't let me because its too similar.  How do I bypass this?00:13
histo!botabuse | w0rm-_x00:13
ubottuw0rm-_x: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".00:13
w0rm-_xhisto, why what's wrong with Debian?00:13
histosam555: where are you trying to change this password?00:13
_lucas_br_w0rm-_x I need to configure the keyboard for these symbols work, and I can not.00:14
histo_lucas_br_: can you use alt codes?00:14
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histo_lucas_br_: under keyboard > layout > layout options > compose key   I believe is what you are looking for00:15
ESphynxok xubuntu just isn't working00:15
ESphynxI get this same red backgrond as with unity :S with no dock or anything00:15
ESphynxstill looks like compilz/unity is running :|00:16
w0rm-_xhisto, I don't want something different, just something that is better and has less problems.00:16
sam555histo: I'm trying to change the password from within the user account.  How would I do it from root?00:16
histow0rm-_x: What sort of problems are you having?00:16
blbrown_win3With ubuntu12.10 when the top window bar is hidden from view, how can I move the window (say with gimp)00:16
Seven_Six_TwoESphynx, can you open a terminal and type     metacity --replace &00:16
gmachine_24sam555, http://www.ehow.com/how_5938222_change-password-ubuntu.html00:16
histosam555: Change who's passwd?00:16
histosam555: you could passwd sam555    in a terminal if sam555 is your username00:17
histosam555: if you are logged in as that user just passwd00:17
sam555histo: I'm changing another admin within the OS.00:17
blbrown_win3nevermind I went to single window mode00:17
_lucas_br_histo: Ok00:17
histosam555: sudo passwd otherusername00:17
sam555histo: i used that command, however, it would not let me change it because it was too similar, but I need to make it this particular password.00:17
ESphynxSeven_Six_Two I couldnt open anything, but in the console I could start xfce...00:17
histosam555: can you please pastebin the error you are receiving00:18
w0rm-_xhisto, I keep getting messages stating that there was a problem with the system and keep reporting them without a respond, also Ubuntu gets stuck when shutting it down while the other OSs does not00:18
ESphynxWhere can I configure to run an xfce session instead?00:18
sam555it worked histo!!!00:18
barrettgmachine_24, sorry, i'm frustrated because usually its packed in here and my raid array... is not assembling, and i'm panicking and nobody seems to have any advice00:18
histosam555: I don't know where you were thinking it was too similiar that should not be an issue00:18
sam555histo: thanks much.  It was the sudo passwd otherusername that worked00:19
sam555histo: when I did just passwd, it would give me that error00:19
sam555thanks for the save00:19
histosam555: What error? I've never seen that.00:19
ESphynxwell metacity looks like a nice WM00:19
sam555histo: it was saying "password too similar"00:19
sam555something like that00:19
histosam555: ahh yeah it does00:20
usr13ESphynx: There is startxfce4 lightdm etc.  Depends on how you want to start it.00:20
ESphynx(Yay I got performance back!)00:20
usr13ESphynx: From the console, startxfce400:20
ESphynxthe desktop is in a poor state, but once I'm in and metacity and xfce4-session is started everything is good00:21
ESphynxI was going nuts over the sluggish interface earlier00:21
ESphynxhope things work better out of the box in VirtualBox for 13.04!!00:21
usr13ESphynx: What sluggish interface was that?00:21
ESphynxusr13: that was the default Quantal installed in VirtualBox00:21
usr13ESphynx: Oh, ok.00:22
ESphynxPrecise worked much much much better.00:22
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histoESphynx: any reason you need 12.10?00:22
ESphynxhisto Yes I'm trying to test/fix problems for Quantal00:22
ham1:q00:23
ham1:q00:23
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shufflebotI have a noob-ish ubuntu permissions problem. https://gist.github.com/9b9246c46ff26f6b2b90 <-- why00:30
Picishufflebot: directories need to be executable for them to be traversed into00:31
Ben64shufflebot: you should really use sudo instead of running around as root00:31
apos^^00:33
genoobiehey all00:33
genoobielooking for a stripped down distro that runs lightweight for a PIII 800MHz, and 384MB ram (laptop)00:33
aposxubuntu00:33
shufflebotBen64: sudo -i dude ;p00:33
genoobieapos, xubuntu is a bit laggy...00:33
aposbecause you have 384 ram.00:34
KI4ROIs there a way to tell the software center onto which drive to install software?00:34
Ben64shufflebot: but then you used su00:34
genoobieright, but I was thinking just plain old, twm and a simplified de00:34
histoPici: in his example puppet is x for user puppet00:34
Picihisto: but git is in the puppet group.00:34
genoobieI am running puppylinux and I'm not entirely unhappy with it00:34
aposyour going to have to either use a very old distro from that era, or add a lil more ram00:34
histoPici: ahh00:35
genoobieso apos if I bumped it up to 512MB (max) xubuntu might work nicely?00:35
histoshufflebot: puppet folder is only x for the user not the g00:35
Ben64genoobie: you could try lubuntu too00:35
Ben64not sure which is lighter00:36
genoobieben64, I did but the video detect was borked....00:36
genoobielubuntu00:36
aposgenoobie,  yes. also it would be a good idea to adjust the "swappiness" so it wont use swap untill it absolutely has to00:36
shufflebotBen64: yeah because I'm switching users00:36
aposlubuntu has more artwork00:36
genoobieapos more artwork than xubuntu?00:36
aposyes00:36
genoobiehmm...I have lubuntu installed on another laptop and it seems reasonable00:37
genoobiebut that laptop is a dual core 1gb00:37
genoobieanyhow, apos, lubuntu, xubuntu anything more streamlined DE?00:37
histoBen64: su = switch user00:37
Ben64histo: i know...00:37
genoobieokay, so suppose I go with lubuntu, I have a *nix that has some drivers00:38
aposno dm and just run in terminal?00:38
aposlubuntu is fine. just adjust the swapiness00:38
genoobieshould I get a printout of vendors (lspci) before I install lubuntu so the drivers work ok?00:38
aposif xubuntu works, im sure lubuntu will work00:39
genoobieyeah, xubuntu didn't quite work b/c of b43 legacy driver for wireless00:39
aposremove any and all unessesary startup apps and adjust the swapiness.00:40
genoobieso apos last thing00:40
genoobie12.10?00:40
usr13genoobie: What does a DE have to do with a WiFi driver?00:40
genoobieusr13, shouldn't have anything to do with it, but one *ntu install worked, the other didn't00:40
genoobieall same params00:40
genoobiemd5s ok00:41
apos12.10 is working fine for me. just make sure your keeping up with the updates as always00:41
genoobieokay, good enough00:41
genoobieI could use the graphical installer but it wants lots of mem00:41
genoobieplanning to bump up ram to 51200:41
usr13genoobie: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx00:41
genoobietx usr1300:42
genoobieokay, I am off to install!00:42
genoobietx and gnite!00:42
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histoapos: there are lighter options than lxde btw.00:45
aposi would never recommend lxde to begin with00:45
histoapos: were'nt you guys talking about lubuntu? that's lxde00:46
aposi told him to use xfce00:46
aposhe wanted lubuntu00:46
unsobillguys00:47
unsobillwhere to drill if I to change my default telnet client00:47
unsobillubuntu 12.400:47
aposdrill?00:47
unsobillbasically i got web-interface that should start telnet windows00:47
unsobillbut it just doesnt open telnet promt ...00:48
unsobillplz hurry guys :(00:48
aposuse gksudo instead?00:48
unsobill_gksudo for what ?00:49
histounsobill: I don't think you want to change your default telnet app. To do so you would update-alternatives --config telnet00:49
histounsobill_: ^^ Although this doesn't sound like your issue00:50
unsobill_its basically a web form thats calling this command : telnet://xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:200000:50
dharrisonhi how can i find out how much swap space i have from terminal00:51
unsobill_on windows associations works and telnet window opens up00:51
unsobill_df -h ?00:51
Ben64dharrison: free -m00:51
unsobill_free -m :D right00:51
histounsobill_: Okay well that's browser dependant00:52
ItsMe__My wireless driver doesn't work on Ubuntu 12.10,  Notebook is HP g6-2206et, what can I do ?00:52
unsobill_histo...00:52
histounsobill_: unsobill_ ...00:52
unsobill_i need something :D plz help00:52
unsobill_u suggest using different browser ?00:52
histo!details would help. | unsobill_00:53
ubottuhisto: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)00:53
Ben64unsobill: just open a terminal and type "telnet 1.2.3.4"00:53
histo!dtailes | unsobill_  This would help.00:53
unsobill_ben telnet works00:53
unsobill_trying firefox00:53
Ben64unsobill: then use telnet00:53
histo!details | unsobill_  This would help.00:53
ubottuunsobill_  This would help.: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."00:53
unsobill_i was running it under chrome00:53
histounsobill_: In windows or linux?00:53
unsobill_ubuntu00:53
unsobill_nothing - same result on firefox as chrome00:54
unsobill_terminal window not being activated00:54
unsobill_arfgh00:54
unsobill_i can open terminal and easily telnet but command from browser doesnt work00:54
histounsobill_: What webform?00:54
unsobill_u want tv ?00:54
unsobill_its basically lab farm00:55
unsobill_that has lots of devices to telnet to00:55
unsobill_u pick one - click open console to it and voila - terminal opens up with telnet connection to it00:55
unsobill_thats how it is on windows :(00:55
histounsobill_: yeah with internet explorer maybe00:55
unsobill_nah with firefox and chrome00:55
unsobill_i suspect i has to do with this command :00:56
unsobill_telnet://xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx00:56
unsobill_basically ubuntu has no idea what to do with association "telnet://"00:56
unsobill_tghats my uneducated guess00:56
histounsobill_: It's not that ubuntu doesn't but the browsers don't00:56
TheLordOfTimeunsobill, correction: the browsers don't know the connection.00:57
unsobill_should browser ask OS about associations then...00:57
TheLordOfTimeunsobill, ubuntu doesn't dictate a browser's interpretation of URL prefixes (telnet://, IRC:// etc.(00:57
TheLordOfTimeat least not afaikl00:57
TheLordOfTimefile associations, maybe.  prefix associations, don't think so.00:57
unsobill_awesome then i need to manually use my gnome connection manager to manually telnet to 30 devices00:58
histounsobill_: Have you thought about installing an extension in chrome or firefox?00:58
unsobill_hmm00:58
unsobill_perhaps may work00:58
histounsobill_: here's one froma  quick google search http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Google-Chrome-Extensions/Telnet-77530.shtml  Althought I would just look int he play store.00:58
histounsobill_: also you could add hostnames for each ip.. Then just telnet whateverhostname   in a terminal00:59
unsobill_i guess i just use terminal manager if nothing else would work fine00:59
unsobill_no time for drilling01:00
histounsobill_: I would look for an extension.01:00
unsobill_im on ubuntu - no luxury of simplicity :D01:00
histounsobill_: would take less than a few minutes.01:00
unsobill_i installed it01:00
unsobill_its like 2x2 black box01:00
unsobill_:D01:00
unsobill_running in webform01:00
histounsobill_: I recomended searching googles extensions. That was just he first one I saw on some 3rd party site.01:01
unsobill_i just stick to gnome connection manager and will wrrite script to telnet to 30 devices and open 30 windows there...01:01
massey_Hey, so a while ago I installed skype and while apt-get told me the installation failed the program worked fine. However, now when I try to use apt-get I'm told that certain packages conflict with one another and to run `apt-get -f install` to fix the problem01:01
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kitten_mittensguyss01:01
unsobill_weird really that theres no way to associate prefix like that01:01
massey_This is what happens when I run said command http://pastebin.com/6WGFnT6B01:01
unsobill_in windows u can...01:01
unsobill_anyway01:01
massey_any ideas how to fix my package manager?01:01
histounsobill_: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-extensions/telnet01:01
kitten_mittensits been over a week now and i havent been able to get ubuntu to work on my laptop or pc01:01
histounsobill_: In windows you get viruses and adware also01:02
unsobill_true :D01:02
unsobill_anyway histo i insalled that one01:02
unsobill_its fine01:02
kitten_mittensi thought it was working fine of my pc, i just updated and now im stuck on the purple ubuntu screen01:02
Ben64i dunno, i clicked a telnet link in firefox and it asked me what to do with it01:02
unsobill_see01:02
unsobill_i had that too01:02
kitten_mittenslike its frozen...01:02
unsobill_but then i press save settings whaever01:02
unsobill_BEN does it open telnet window in terminal ?01:02
unsobill_i guess my settings saved now how do i reset ?01:03
kitten_mittenscan anyone help me?01:03
unsobill_reinstall chrome01:03
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unsobill_kitten whats up01:03
unsobill_kitten burn ubuntu cd with speed of 401:03
unsobill_or less01:03
kitten_mittensi did01:03
kitten_mittensi also did usb01:04
unsobill_get disk01:04
unsobill_that works01:04
Ben64!enter | unsobill_01:04
ubottuunsobill_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:04
unsobill_harddrive issues perhaps or some driver01:04
kitten_mittensut was working all last night untill just dow i updated01:04
histokitten_mittens: can you ctrl+akt+F1-F6 and get to a tty?01:04
unsobill_when u boot do u have different options to load different kernet ?01:04
unsobill_anyway Ben can u answer ?01:04
Ben64firefox prefrences01:04
kitten_mittensno its completely frozen before ubuntu starts01:04
histokitten_mittens: ctrl+alt+F1 through F601:04
unsobill_in firefox after starting telnet did it worked ?01:05
kitten_mittensas in.. caps lock wont even turn the capslock light on01:05
histokitten_mittens: it's locked up. Boot the computer and hold the shift key before the purple screen.  You should get a grub menu01:05
unsobill_ben thats it probably firefox settings01:05
unsobill_let me look applications01:05
unsobill_ben !!!!01:06
unsobill_telnet - use KtelnetService (default)01:06
unsobill_what should i cahnge that to ?01:06
unsobill_how to find out current default terminal ?01:06
kitten_mittensits not working01:06
Ben64i dunno, ask google01:06
unsobill_arfh :P01:06
Ben64nobody uses telnet anymore01:06
unsobill_poop01:07
unsobill_master01:07
histounsobill_: update-alternatives --get-selections01:07
unsobill_thnx histo01:07
kitten_mittens*cries*01:07
histounsobill_: You can see all your defaults01:07
histokitten_mittens: Why cry did you boot to a grub menu yet?01:07
kitten_mittensit wont work01:07
Ben64it will01:07
unsobill_histo, update-alternatives --get-selections01:08
kitten_mittensit wont01:08
histokitten_mittens: What won't work?01:08
unsobill_oops01:08
kitten_mittensit just goes streight to the purple screen01:08
unsobill_histo, telnet auto /usr/bin/telnet.netkit01:08
Ben64then you need to press shift earlier/more01:08
kitten_mittensok it worked.. i went rapid fire on both01:09
histounsobill_: yes that's fine01:09
unsobill_oka ywhats KtelnetService01:09
histokitten_mittens: okay do you have more than one option for kernel?01:09
unsobill_i got that as promt - how can i change it to something that will work lol01:09
histokitten_mittens: you can try booting an older one.01:09
kitten_mittensi dont know what a kennel is but i have ubuntu advanced options for ubuntu and system settup01:09
histokitten_mittens: can you take a picture of the screen and paste it?01:10
unsobill_histo I want to select open with Terminal but its not there...01:10
histo!paste | kitten_mittens01:10
ubottukitten_mittens: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:10
kitten_mittensi have no camera01:11
histounsobill_: I have no idea what you are talking about.  Just please use a addon for firefox or an extension in chrome.  There are many. That functionality is not built into linux versions of those browsers aparently.01:11
histokitten_mittens: cell phone w/ camera?01:11
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Ben64unsobill: you should really google your problem, solution is the first link01:12
histoBen64: You may want to tell him what you searched for?01:12
kitten_mittenstheres only 3 options, 'ubuntu', 'advanced options for ubuntu' and 'system settup'01:12
Ben64"ubuntu open telnet url"01:13
histolol01:13
kitten_mittensand e to edit commands and c for command line01:13
Ben64its not rocket surgery01:13
histokitten_mittens: hold on one second i'm checking something on that.01:13
Guest80061Hi, I have a question about installing Ubuntu on USB w/ persistent file.  When you're doing updates/saving to folders under home folder/etc. does ubuntu automatically save it to the persistent file(casper-rw)?01:13
histokitten_mittens: also what version of ubuntu did you install01:13
kitten_mittens12.1001:13
histoGuest80061: yes01:13
Ben64did 12.10 change the grub menu?01:14
Guest80061Another question: How can I get my main hard drive to mount when it won't?01:14
histokitten_mittens: do you not see something like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JkW4rtv2kGA/T2iNGdO6MLI/AAAAAAAADUY/0NlBNgwJJgQ/s1600/GRUB2-boot-menu.png01:15
histoBen64: man friggen 12.1001:15
Ben64Guest80061: what do you mean "when it won't"01:15
kitten_mittensyeah but differnt options01:15
ElixirVitaeHi~01:15
mangdoodWhat ways are there of changing GNOME 3 settings? I haven't installed it but I'd like to be able to change settings to my preference01:15
histokitten_mittens: ahh they changed that in 12.10 select advanced options01:15
kitten_mittensand my grub is version 2.00-7ubuntu1101:16
Guest80061When I right click on it from the home folder and click mount I get an error message "unable to mount volume"01:16
ElixirVitaeI was wondering whether setting up a new system from minimal CD and adding packages or deleting certain packages from a normal install have difference.01:16
ElixirVitaeDoes it?01:16
histokitten_mittens: under advanced options you should be able to select an older kernel version01:16
histoElixirVitae: yes gets rid of a lot of bloat01:16
kitten_mittensok, theres versions 3.5.0-22 and 3.5.0-17 and both have a recovery option too01:17
histoElixirVitae: you can completely customize what's installed01:17
histokitten_mittens: slect 3.5.0-17  non-recovery01:17
histokitten_mittens: see if the system boots without errors01:17
kitten_mittensit froze01:18
ElixirVitaeCan't I get rid of the said bloat after install by hunting them down via synaptic?01:18
kitten_mittensit says loading linux 3.5.0-17-generic... then under it says loading initial ramdisk ... and its frozen01:18
ElixirVitaeI meant normal install, btw.01:19
histoElixirVitae: Yeah I guess just a longer way of doing it.01:19
histoElixirVitae: like if you are going to just install ubuntu-desktop from a minimal install then there is no difference.01:20
ElixirVitaeI wonder whether they will be more or less equivalent.01:20
histoElixirVitae: if you are going to start with a cli system and work up then there would be. I'm sure you'd miss a bunch of stuff going backwards.01:20
ElixirVitaeI sure won't install ubuntu-desktop :)01:20
histoElixirVitae: Like what are you trying to accomplish in total?01:21
ElixirVitaeAnother question, do configs change between 32 and 64 bit systems?01:21
histoElixirVitae: no01:22
ElixirVitaeI want to get a leaner system, and learn more in the process, but wonder whether the hassle would be worth it.01:22
ElixirVitaeIf it doesn't give me much benefit, I'd rather install normal and delete some parts.01:22
azbyinhi all.. How do i ensure that *all* logged in users are able to read/write to a usb disk i have just plugged in?01:22
kitten_mittens:(01:22
JokesOnYou77Hi all, how do I start an ssh session and then background it?  (And then bring it back to foreground and/or end it when I want to get rid of it)01:23
histoElixirVitae: You could always create a virtual machine and install a minimals system and work up.. Ex: install xorg  then whatever de you wanted.  You don't have to use a login manager for instance or you can pick a lighter one.01:23
histokitten_mittens: what did it still lock up?01:23
kitten_mittensit says loading linux 3.5.0-17-generic... then under it says loading initial ramdisk ... and its frozen01:23
histokitten_mittens: okay time to try recovery mode01:23
ElixirVitaeGreat, I should test it in VM, that way I can check whether my configs carry over seamlessly as well.01:23
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kitten_mittensmm im just googling it first to see why its happening01:24
ElixirVitaeThanks histo, much appreciated.01:24
histoJokesOnYou77: ctlr+z    will dump you back to a prompt then type bg   to background01:24
somsipJokesOnYou77: use something like screen or tmux, if I understand what you need correctly01:24
kitten_mittensbut my nets going super slow, wont load the pages -_-01:24
histoJokesOnYou77: fg will bring it back to fore ground.01:24
histokitten_mittens: could be many things. Bad hardware or software... We hve to test.01:25
kitten_mittensits not hardware, i have a nevery expensive motherboard that tells me whenever somethings wrong hardware wise01:25
JokesOnYou77histo, ctrl+z doesn't seem to work with an ssh session01:26
histokitten_mittens: I wouldn't rule it out. Since you are experiencing these wierd issues.  But you need to try booting to recovery mode.  It should dump you at a terminal.  Then we can see if all the updates installed properly.01:27
histoJokesOnYou77: hold up let me try01:27
kitten_mittensok01:27
histoJokesOnYou77: I would use screen then.01:28
histoJokesOnYou77: I didn't even think that it would forward the ctrl+z to the remote session01:28
histoduh01:28
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histoJokesOnYou77: if you want to use jobs ie ctrl+z you have to ~ then Ctrl+z01:29
JokesOnYou77histo, I figured it out.  I can just use & and then fg the job number it gives when I want to get it back :)01:29
histoJokesOnYou77: ~ is the escape character01:30
histoJokesOnYou77: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42365/how-do-i-background-an-ssh-session/42367#4236701:30
histoJokesOnYou77: although you still should checkout screen much more powerfull.01:30
Ben64yes, screen01:30
JokesOnYou77histo, thanks.  Yeah, my solution didn't quite seem to work, I could get the ssh session back just with fg but then something funky happened with the prompt01:31
JokesOnYou77And yes, I realize that screen is generally better but I'm using my GUI atm, and I don't like multiple gui terminal windows running AND screen01:32
histoJokesOnYou77: when you bring it back hit enter for the screen to redraw. But ~ then ctrl+z works here for me01:32
kitten_mittenshisto im in the recovery menu, now what01:32
histoJokesOnYou77: What I use is screen on the remote machine.   So I can disconnect the ssh session. Then if I want to come back I just ssh back in and reattach the screen starting where I left off.01:32
histokitten_mittens: No under Advanced options for Ubuntu boot one of the (reocover mode) kernels01:33
unsobillOH GOD FINALLY01:34
unsobillPUTTY SAVED ME01:34
FloodBot1unsobill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:34
kitten_mittenshisto i did, it have me a recovery menu01:34
unsobillspent 1 hour trying to get firefox to associate telnet or ssh links under ubuntu01:34
unsobillfuking hell01:34
unsobillputty FTW01:34
JokesOnYou77histo, ahhh yes, I see what you mean.  I'm actually starting an ssh session with a dynamically forwarded port to the remot host so I can use it as a SOCKS proxy from browsing on my local host.  I don't have anything to really DO on the remote machine, I just need the tunnel open01:34
histoJokesOnYou77: then use -N so you don't get a prompt01:35
histokitten_mittens: what are your options?01:35
kitten_mittensresume normal boot, clean, dpkg, grub, network, root, system summery01:36
kitten_mittensim guessing root? it says drop to root shell promt01:36
JokesOnYou77histo, perfect! ty :)01:36
histokitten_mittens: How is this computer connected to network?01:36
kitten_mittenswireless01:36
histokitten_mittens: is there a netroot option?01:37
JokesOnYou77histo, w8, but that doesn't give me back my local prompt :/01:37
ekristenare their any web based repo management tools?01:37
kitten_mittensno01:37
ekristenalso is there any way to run a repo mirror but be able to approve/disapprove packages before allowing servers to download them?01:37
histokitten_mittens: what's under network?  Can you configure your network card. And then drop to root shell that would be the goal here. Sorry it's been awhile since i've been in there.01:37
kitten_mittenshttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/fixsudoprecise03.jpg01:38
ekristenI'm looking to run several ubuntu servers internally in a production env, and want to control which packages get advertised for update01:38
histokitten_mittens: yeah enable networking and setup your network01:38
kitten_mittensim confused -_-01:39
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histokitten_mittens: kitten_mittens use the up and down arrows and hilight network then press enter01:39
kitten_mittensi did it and it sayd clean, 205505/14581760 files, 3429860/58320640 blocks01:40
kitten_mittensand it just stoppderscoreed, i have a flashing un01:40
histokitten_mittens: What when you clicked networking?01:40
kitten_mittensyeah01:40
GoGetOperatedHey01:40
kitten_mittensi just have a flashing underscore01:41
GoGetOperated./Go~Get\.01:41
histokitten_mittens: Do you still have a cd lying around that you can boot to?  It would be a lot easier than walking you through configuring a network in command line if you just booted that and we repaired from there.01:41
kitten_mittensok, i dont have cd i have usb for my pc01:41
histokitten_mittens: or usb. I can't remember what you staid you installed from?01:42
kitten_mittensbecause it has no cdrom01:42
histokitten_mittens: yeah boot to the usb drive you installed from.01:42
BrewskiI'm looking for a QR barcode scanner solution for Ubuntu. We're looking to scan QR codes into a web form instead of manually typing them, so a "keyboard wedge" would be preferred (like credit card readers).01:42
GoGetOperatedWhat ar you trying to do01:42
BrewskiI know the software is there, is there hardware compatibility for any USB scanners yet?01:42
kitten_mittensdone histo01:42
GoGetOperatedThere is a thing called Google look for ith there01:43
histokitten_mittens: I have to go but basically you are going to try. Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.01:43
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kitten_mittensok..01:43
histoBrewski: Barcode scanners are just detected as keyboards most should work with linux.01:43
NewUbunhello01:44
BrewskiSweet! I'll have to buy one and test01:44
Brewskithx01:44
NewUbunneed some help01:44
kitten_mittenserror, invalid enviroment blook, press any key to continue?01:44
histoBrewski: like you can scan barcodes into a text document01:44
histokitten_mittens: what where?01:44
kitten_mittensOMFG THIS IS STUPID01:45
histokitten_mittens: I really recomend doing a memtest.  Or I suspect your original iso you downloaded was corrupt.01:45
NewUbunyesterday i installed openproject from sourceforge but it is not workin.. I tried again today and got this msg01:45
histokitten_mittens: but I have to go.01:45
kitten_mittensMY bios goes so fasgt its literally impossible to load the boot menu thing, or open the bios01:45
kitten_mittensok thank you01:45
histokitten_mittens: perhaps someone else can help.01:45
histokitten_mittens: hit the shift key and get the grub menu again and run a memtest01:46
NewUbun"your java vendor is "oracle corporation". to run OpenProj, you nee dthe sun java iplementation. The auto-detect java runtime used is "java". If you hae a newer version, you can anually cane it by editing the "Java_exe" property in te auto-detection file, "$HOME/.openproj/run.conf" Otherwise, to force auto-detection again you can remove "$Home/.openproj/run.conf"01:49
NewUbuncan someone help01:49
NewUbunI am new to ubuntu01:49
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NewUbunanyone01:50
NewUbun..............01:50
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konamAudacious is incredibly slow to start (a full 20 seconds) after I try to play songs with it be it from the "open with" menu from nautilus or simply starting it through the dash. I don't know why this is, does somebody else experience this? My machine is decent (dell inspiron 14z N411z), and my ubuntu version 12.1001:50
cainuscan anyone tell me the magic behind ln -s and why it never wants to work for me?  isn't it just `ln -s /real/path /pretend/path`  ?01:51
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NewUbunanyone...01:51
NewUbunI a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java01:52
solrachow do you open firefox in terminal mode01:52
jribcainus: sure.01:52
matthello my name is matt01:52
NewUbuncan someone help01:52
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Guest33132i need some help01:53
kitten_mittenscan someone help me01:53
solrachelp how do you open firefox in terminal mode01:53
jribcainus: so do you have a specific example you are having trouble with?01:53
kitten_mittensi got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:54
kitten_mittensbut how do i find out what my hard drive is01:54
NewUbunwrite firefox and press enter01:54
cainusjrib: yeah, but it'll just be some different paths from what I pasted01:54
kitten_mittensanyone?01:54
NewUbunis there anyone here that can help01:55
cainusjrib: sudo ln -s build-couchdb/build/etc/logrotate.d/couchdb /etc/logrotate.d/couchdb01:55
cainusNewUbun: just ask your question01:55
jribcainus: you're giving a relative path, make sure that that makes sense relative to the target01:55
Guest33132im trying to burn an image iso of the newest ubuntu from a windows pc to use as a bootable new installation on my hp laptop that is having issues with windows. i installed a version of ubuntu i had from 2011 on the laptop and it worked except it is out of date and cannot be upgraded. so like i said i downloaded and am trying to burn the iso using nero 9 on a windows pc to then use to boot and install the 12 ubuntu on my laptop any01:55
cainusjrib: it only makes sense relative to my cwd... should I just give absolute paths?01:56
jribcainus: you can use absolute paths if you want, yes01:56
kitten_mittensi feel as if im asking a pretty simple question01:57
cainusjrib: ahhh okay... so what does it do with the path?  writes it into the symbolic link?01:57
cainusjrib: so my relative paths wouldn't wortk01:57
Guest33132any help?01:57
jribcainus: you can use relative paths, but they have to be relative to /etc/logrotate.d/couchdb, not your cwd01:58
solrachow do you open firefox in terminal mode01:58
solrachelp01:58
NewUbunwrite firefox and press enter01:58
solracno display01:58
cainusjrib: ha alright... thanks :)  I've been wondering for years wth I've been doing wrong :)01:58
OerHeksGuest33132, newest ubuntu 12.10 needs a DVD+r01:58
cainussolrac: firefox doesn't run in terminal mode01:59
Guest33132so just burn the iso image to a dvdr?01:59
kitten_mittensi got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:59
kitten_mittensbut how do i find out what my hard drive is01:59
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OerHeksGuest33132, yes, or use a usb stick if your pc can boot from it.01:59
NewUbunhelp plz01:59
Guest33132i just dont have a stick handy but thanks ill try that and get back thanks.02:00
Justin_jtb7rmvhi buddy get you to ssh in and set my unrealircd server up?02:00
NewUbunI a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java02:00
kitten_mittensomg i wanna hit someone..02:00
Justin_jtb7rmvhi all get you to ssh in and set my unrealircd server up?02:00
NewUbunhelp plz02:01
NewUbunI a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java versions02:01
kitten_mittensnobody helps newubun02:01
NewUbunnope02:01
ItsMe__:D02:01
ItsMe__what kind of help ?02:01
ItsMe__just ask :p02:01
kitten_mittensi have like 300 times :)02:01
NewUbunlinux mint wa much better in this regard02:01
OerHekskitten_mittens, fdisk -l should tell your drives02:01
ItsMe__and no one helps me too :p02:01
NewUbun"your java vendor is "oracle corporation". to run OpenProj, you nee dthe sun java iplementation. The auto-detect java runtime used is "java". If you hae a newer version, you can anually cane it by editing the "Java_exe" property in te auto-detection file, "$HOME/.openproj/run.conf" Otherwise, to force auto-detection again you can remove "$Home/.openproj/run.conf"02:02
NewUbuni installed open proj an it wont run02:02
OerHeksopenproject and closed oracle java .. i guess you need openJDK02:02
kitten_mittensi got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:03
kitten_mittensbut when i do choot /dev/sda it says not a directory02:03
gmachine_24Hello again. I am booted from a live 12.04 LTS USB flash drive and I need to overwrite the hard on this laptop; I am doing to use "dd" and I know the CLI command to overwrite the drive with zeros or randomly . . . but I want to know how to overwrite the drive multiple times. Thanks.02:04
solracso you can open a browser onli in graphic mode?02:04
gmachine_24*hard drive02:04
gmachine_24and 'going to use'02:04
kitten_mittenswhys it so impossible to get help02:05
NewUbunanyone02:05
kitten_mittensi guess nobodys helping today02:06
ItsMe__NewUbun,  how have u tried to install ? Did u tried this http://bit.ly/9VxNou ?02:06
NewUbuni really want to start typing in CAP02:06
gmachine_24kitten_mittens, I don't know. what happens when you do $sudo fdisk -l?02:06
gmachine_24kitten_mittens, forgive me if you have answered this already. I just got here.02:06
kitten_mittensit lists my /dev/sda drive02:06
gmachine_24kitten_mittens, well, ............. can you post the result in pastebin? It lists details........ and those are important02:07
NewUbunItsMe: i downloaded it, changed it to .deb and installed it02:07
NewUbunbut looks like it has a problem with my Java02:07
kitten_mittensthe problem is when i turn on my pc, it freezes, so we tryed a differnt kennal thing in grub and it just locks up at loading initial ramdisk02:07
NewUbunhow do i fix tat02:08
ItsMe__did u changet what to .deb ?02:08
kitten_mittensi got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:08
gmachine_24kitten_mittens, did you try a command prompt and then do a filecheck?02:08
kitten_mittensi dont know how to do that02:08
NewUbunI changed the folder from rpm to deb02:09
NewUbunthe zip folder i had downloaded was in rpm02:09
gmachine_24kitten_mittens, well............ if you get to the Grub splash screen . . . you can choose (usually) to go to a command line... there should be that option for every kernel version you have on your drive02:09
kitten_mittensyeah we tryed that02:10
kitten_mittenswell we tryed a differnt kernal thing02:10
gmachine_24kitten_mittens, if not, if you have a live USB boot drive - or even a cd - you can boot into the live version and then to a file check from a terminal02:10
kitten_mittensthts what im doing now02:11
NewUbunits_me... you here?02:11
NewUbunanyone????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????02:11
ItsMe__I'm searching NewUbun02:11
gmachine_24*do a file check from a terminal as in $cntrl+atl+t and then $sudo e2fsck -ef /dev/sda or whatever02:11
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NewUbunok02:11
gmachine_24NewUbun - how did you change the folder?02:12
gmachine_24patience! | NewUbun02:12
gmachine_24er02:12
gmachine_24!patience | NewUbun02:12
NewUbunlet me check the command i used02:12
somsip!patience | NewUbun02:12
ubottuNewUbun: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/02:12
kittenmittenzgmachine_24 http://pastebin.com/NWveRCAm02:12
NewUbuni am new to all this02:12
gmachine_24somsip, thank you :)02:12
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, did you just change your user name?02:14
lorenI am looking for help with Archive Manager.  What channel is most likely to help?02:14
kittenmittenzno this is my pc on the live usb, the other is on my laptop, the  key on my pc keyboar oesnt work so i have to use a macro on my game pa which is annoying so i was using the laptop02:15
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, well, the instructions you received before don't make sense to me. Your /dev/sda drive is not formatted or partitioned so you can't mount it anywhere.02:15
kittenmittenznooo\02:15
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, no what02:15
gmachine_24or nooo\ what?02:15
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ItsMe__NewUbun, go to your home folder than open .openproj/run.conf02:16
kitten_mittensmy sda drive is my sda drive..a s in.. its where i was running ubuntu just fine yesterday until i updated and restarted then couldnt turn back on02:16
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, well it looks like it's shot.02:16
kitten_mittens:(02:16
kitten_mittenshow do i check my hard drive for errors02:16
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ItsMe__then change the line that is 'JAVA_OPTS="-Xms128m -Xmx768m" ' to 'JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.vendor=Sun -Xms128m -Xmx768m" '02:16
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, the bare drive?02:16
kittenmittenzyeah, its an ss02:17
kitten_mittensits an ssd02:17
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, $sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda02:17
ItsMe__it runs on my ubuntu now NewUbun  :)02:17
gmachine_24you need to do the -c 2x02:17
gmachine_24it is a quick check02:17
gmachine_24although..................02:18
kittenmittenzit keeps saying that it is in use02:18
gmachine_24yeah. can you umount it?02:18
kittenmittenzubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda02:18
kittenmittenze2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)02:18
kittenmittenz/dev/sda is in use.02:18
kittenmittenze2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.02:18
kittenmittenzi presse the little eject button?02:18
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, as in $sudo umount /dev/sda02:18
ItsMe__NewUbun,  hey have u did it ?02:19
kittenmittenzubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda02:19
kittenmittenzumount: /dev/sda: not mounted02:19
kittenmittenzubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda02:19
kittenmittenze2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)02:19
kittenmittenz/dev/sda is in use.02:19
kittenmittenze2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.02:19
FloodBot1kittenmittenz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:19
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, I think you probably have to use dd.02:19
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, I think you probably have to use "dd", the command, that is.02:20
kitten_mittenswhats the dd?02:20
NewUbunnope02:20
ItsMe__nope what :D02:20
gmachine_24hang on. let me check this. are you ready to accept you might not get your data back off that drive?02:20
kittenmittenzthat is okay, i only got it working yesteray02:20
NewUbuni could not find the answer and dono how to fix the problemm02:20
Guest33132burnt the iso to dvd and it still wants to just boot to my old ubuntu release that is out of date....need help...02:21
ItsMe__NewUbun, just try it man, it works. resource : http://bit.ly/T7KjW402:21
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ItsMe__could u open the /home/.openproj/run.conf  file ?02:22
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, then why not just reinstall Ubuntu?02:22
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, it seems much easier02:22
ItsMe__when you're your home folder press "ctrl+h" to see the hidden folders , NewUbun02:23
kittenmittenzbecause ive been trying to get it working for the past week an it wornt i keep getting errors, the image is fine i check the m5 an ive ownloae it like 10 times now02:23
subb1Hi guys.02:23
ItsMe__then open the .openproj folder and run.conf file and change the line, NewUbun  m'kay ? :)02:23
kittenmittenzlike graphics rivers errors, rea onl6 file system errors, now this error02:24
gmachine_24the gpt listed in your fdisk output is, I guess, a shortcut or abbreviation for GUID - which is partition information of some sort I'm not up on02:24
kittenmittenznoboy can help me :/02:24
kittenmittenzi wante ubuntu, i also tye linux mint, it int work either02:24
subb1I'm trying to remove CUPS from Lucid. But ubuntu-desktop is also among the list of packages that will be removed. How to prevent that being removed and remove cups only?02:24
kittenmittenzi guess ill go back to winows, thanks anyway02:24
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, hang on. if you're willing to wipe the drive ........ you can try the dd command. hang tight.02:25
ItsMe__windows is bad man, you can't learn anything with that :D just follow the instructions of gmachine_24  :)02:26
Guest33132any help?02:26
ItsMe__NewUbun,  ????02:26
ItsMe__any help about what Guest33132 ?02:26
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bravisl02:27
pertinate_I need some help, if you guys don't mind. :o02:28
ItsMe__ok02:28
ItsMe__:)02:28
Guest33132i just burnt the newest iso of ubuntu to a dvd to install it into my lapotop and it still wants to load up with my old ubuntu the i had a dvd for that is unsupported now. and the boot option is set to boot from dvd.02:28
pertinate_I'm in need of enabling my two extra buttons on my mouse: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/d/comfort-mouse-4500 this is the mouse I'm using.02:28
Hamledso I'm trying to configure a machine with two ethernet interfaces, both with static IPs. When I do an ifup -a it brings up both interfaces and sets a route for default using one interface, but I want it to use the other instead. I've added such a statement to the correct interface in /etc/network/interfaces but it's still just using the other  interface02:29
Hamledhow can I figure out what is causing it to setup a route for default on one of the interfaces automatically?02:30
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, ok, try this02:30
Guest33132?02:31
kittenmittenzok02:31
ItsMe__Guest33132,  did u checked md5 ? And are u sure you wrote the iso correctly ? I think u can't see boot menu from dvd ?02:31
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, ok, try  $sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda02:31
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, ok, try  if you cannot do that, you might have to install the program e2fsprogs as in $sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs02:32
Guest33132im saying i changed the boot menu in the pc to boot from dvd first. would md5 been when burning or?02:32
kittenmittenzChecking blocks 0 to 25005909502:33
kittenmittenzChecking for bad blocks (read-only test):02:33
NewUbun<Its_me> u here02:33
kittenmittenzits not oing anything though..02:33
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, yes, that is the one02:33
gmachine_24do you just have a blinking curser?02:34
ItsMe__Guest33132,  u must use md5checksum programs to check iso file , search on google "ubuntu md5 check".02:34
gmachine_24cursor02:34
akar1mhello guys02:34
kittenmittenzya02:34
akar1mI want tou extend my screen02:34
NewUbunItsMe__u ehre02:34
akar1mI am using ATI VGA card02:34
ItsMe__If it's correct, u should have burned iso file wrongly i guess.02:34
akar1mhow can I do that ?02:34
ItsMe__NewUbun,  yeah but i must go :)02:35
ItsMe__did u try it ?02:35
akar1min windows ctrl+p and click extend option02:35
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, at the end of the terminal line $ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ or on a blank line?02:35
NewUbunsorry guys I was trying to copy the nae02:35
NewUbunname02:35
kittenmittenzblank?02:35
akar1mI am using my laptop's screen as a second display02:35
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, if it says it's checking then it's checking02:35
kittenmittenzafter rea onlytest: it just has a squar box02:35
akar1mI got HDMI output02:35
NewUbunyes but how do i  get to the file... I tried in terminal but could not find the .openproj file02:36
evansch0i need some help o.o02:36
ItsMe__don't use terminal, go to your home folder and press "ctrl+h"  then search ".openproj" folder and open the "run.conf" file, NewUbun02:36
evansch0i need to find out how to connect a device like a usb as a drive like c:\ or D:\02:37
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, it is checking. also, when you boot from a live install on a usb drive or cd/dvd there is a choice to do a hard drive check02:37
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, that is one of your options.02:38
NewUbuni used the cd / then cd home and then cd newubun but after that when i tried ls i did not get any file by the name .openproj02:38
kittenmittenzill o that next02:38
NewUbunok02:39
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, and............ if you don't like any of those......... you can do $sudo touch /forcefsck which will force the computer to do a hard drive check on your next reboot02:39
evansch0so does anyone know how to connect a usb as a main drive02:39
gmachine_24evansch0, as in you want to boot from it or what02:39
NewUbunfound it02:39
NewUbun1 sec02:39
ItsMe__ok02:39
evansch0no i want it to be used instead of my hard drive02:40
usr13evansch0: You mean to set a static mount point?02:40
evansch0no idea02:40
evansch0:/02:40
gmachine_24evansch0, is your os going to be on this drive?02:40
usr13evansch0: You want to move your /home/directory to it?02:40
evansch0yes02:40
evansch0i think02:40
gmachine_24lol02:40
gmachine_24yes, to which question02:40
gmachine_24or both02:41
NewUbunshould i cane it to ""-Djava.vendor = Sun-Xms128m-Xmx768m"02:41
NewUbunor just Sun-Xms....02:41
evansch0ok first let me tell you some background on my laptop02:41
evansch0its an hp 4410t02:41
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, depending on your cpu speed and etc. that disk check will take awhile02:41
ItsMe__-Djava.vendor = Sun-Xms128m-Xmx768m" , it must be this02:41
evansch02 gb on the hard drive xD02:42
usr13evansch0: For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving02:42
kittenmittenzi have an 8core 3.5 ghz?02:42
NewUbunok02:42
evansch0i have 2 ghz02:42
evansch0the whole hard drive space is basically just the graphical ram02:43
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usr13evansch0: Do you have a portion of your /home/directory that is very large?  Like /home/evansch0/videos  or /home/evansch0/music ?02:43
ugtarmasapt-get install yum02:43
ItsMe__ugtarmas,  lol :D02:44
evansch0and i want to use my sata drive and my usb drive02:44
evansch0together\02:44
usr13evansch0: It would be easier to just create a mount point for a particular subdirectory.02:44
ItsMe__NewUbun,  any result02:44
ItsMe__?02:44
evansch0and i do that how02:44
kittenmittenzi wish it ha a progress bar02:44
usr13evansch0: Well, you can, (use the sata and usb drive together), I'm just trying to determine the best way.02:45
DmnchildHey all, can someone help me understand setquota? I am trying to set a users diskspace to 100gb. see the usage help, but still not working for me.02:45
NewUbunnoting i did not get the msg again but the program did not start either02:45
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, well........ if you want to see if it's running do $cntrl+alt+t to open a terminal, type $top at the command line and the process should be listed at the top, using most of the cpu02:45
usr13evansch0: You have to create a mount point for it and then, (if you're going use your /home/dir for it), move /home/evansch0 to it.02:46
evansch0mount point?02:46
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, not most of the cpu, but it will be the process using the most02:46
gmachine_24cpu cycles02:46
NewUbunis there a way to uninstall open proj and reinstall it02:46
usr13evansch0: yes mount point.02:46
NewUbunto see if tere is a problem there02:46
evansch0what is a mount point02:46
ItsMe__new ubun i guess u didn't change correctlye.  JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.vendor=Sun -Xms128m -Xmx768m"02:47
ItsMe__it must be like this02:47
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usr13evansch0: a mount point is just a directory where files are stored.  /home/evansch0  if it is on another drive is called a "mount point".02:47
evansch0well i dont have ubuntu installed yet02:47
ItsMe__can u copy the line that u changed ?02:47
NewUbunok let mme try again.. i will copy paste what you typed here02:47
evansch0that is why i need to use then together02:47
evansch0*them02:47
usr13evansch0: But this new location must have an entry for it in the /etc/fstab file. We can show you how.02:48
evansch0where can you show me02:48
usr13evansch0: Oh, you havent' done the install yet.  Well, just have the drive plugged in when you do the installed, and designate it as the mount point for /home02:49
NewUbunthanks it worked this time02:49
NewUbunthatnks alot02:49
ItsMe__you're welcome :) I must go, have a nice day :)02:49
usr13*install*  not installed02:49
evansch0then i guess i should change the boot device02:49
NewUbunThank you Its_Me__02:49
usr13evansch0: Change the boot device?02:50
NewUbunyou too02:50
usr13evansch0: No, we're not talking about the boot device here.02:50
evansch0yes the boot device right now boot device is usb then optical drive then so on02:50
aLeSDhi all02:50
aLeSDwhich is the best fs to format a 1TB external disk ?02:51
usr13evansch0: So you are NOW saying that you want to do the entire Ubuntu install on the USB device?02:51
evansch0i should change it from usb to optical drive xD02:51
evansch0no both devices if possible02:51
usr13evansch0: (That's ok, we just need to know what it is you really want to do.)02:51
usr13evansch0: You dan do it on both devices, yes.02:51
evansch0brb02:51
evansch0<------ AFK02:52
usr13evansch0: The larger partition should be /home02:52
kdns_aLeSD: For what purpose? Probably ext3 or ext402:52
lorenNeed help with file roller02:53
usr13evansch0: Recommended sizes:  8G swap, 30G /  and the rest, (or what ever you want to use of the USB drive), for /home02:53
aLeSDkdns_ storage ... and sometime share wit no linux boxes02:54
losticebergMy network card is not working at all. in ubutu 12.0402:54
usr13losticeberg: What network card is it?02:55
gmachine_24loren, as in what specifically?02:55
usr13losticeberg: lspci |pastebinit02:55
bencchow much memory does a minimum install of ubuntu server needs?02:55
losticebergit in a dell inspion 600002:55
usr13losticeberg: and send us resulting URL02:55
losticebergive tryed two diffrent ones02:55
evansch0im thinking of getting a external hard drive  320 to 500 gigs02:55
usr13losticeberg: What does ifconfig say?02:55
lorenTrying to connect File Roller 3.4.1 for Gnome to a Windows share.02:55
evansch0how would i use that device02:55
gmachine_24losticeberg, can you do a $sudo lspci as usr13 says?02:56
usr13!paste |losticeberg02:56
ubottulosticeberg: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.02:56
Rayhello, anyone know how to use *.run.gz file??02:56
usr13losticeberg: Does  ifconfig   show a section for eth0  or  eth1 ?02:57
arp-hello02:57
usr13Ray: .gz indicates a compressed file.  see man gunzip02:58
losticebergno it dos not even show i have wireless with 12.1002:58
DmnchildAnyone able to help me with the setquota command for limiting a specific users /home/?02:58
kittenmittenztaking forevvver02:58
usr13losticeberg: So, one card is wireless and one is ethernet?02:58
arp-How is the binary name of ATI Catalyst control panel?02:58
lorenYes02:58
Ben64Ray: what is it, by the way02:58
losticebergon 12.04 its a firmware not setup02:58
usr13losticeberg: what is firmware?02:59
losticebergon 12.04 thats what it ses about my wireless card02:59
usr13losticeberg: Open a terminal window, type   lspci   hit Enter and see what it says about the wireless card.  Show us that line here.02:59
evansch0so usr if i use a external hard drive would i be able to boot from that03:00
losticebergyes one ethernet03:00
Chriysi'm going to reinstall postfix what config do i need to send email throught my isp smtp server03:00
evansch0usr13: if i use a external hard drive would i be able to boot from that03:00
usr13losticeberg: Is the ethernet card working?03:00
usr13evansch0: Yes, if your computer will boot to it.03:00
losticebergnot sure no way to hook up to test03:00
evansch0usr13: i think it will since it booted from a usb one before03:01
usr13evansch0: If your computer is capable of booting to USB, then yes, you can do the complete Ubuntu install on it.03:01
usr13evansch0: How big is it?03:01
gmachine_24losticeberg, for example, $sudo lspci has this as my bottom line "03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)"03:01
lorenloren@loren-laptop:~$ sudo lspci03:01
loren[sudo] password for loren:03:01
loren00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)03:01
loren00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)03:01
loren00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)03:01
FloodBot1loren: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:01
loren00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)03:01
gmachine_24 03:01
evansch0usr13: how big is what?03:01
usr13!paste | loren03:01
ubottuloren: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:01
usr13loren: lspci | pastebinit   #And post resulting URL here.03:02
gmachine_24loren, do you know how to use the terminal and the command line?03:02
usr13losticeberg:  Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx03:03
arp-I need the binary name of ATI Catalyst GUI , can help me?03:03
evansch0usr13: what were you reffering to when you said "how big is it?"03:04
usr13evansch0: Your USB drive.03:04
evansch0usr13: oh well its only 4 gb xD03:04
dr_willisarp-: it's   amdccc  or somthing like that03:04
usr13evansch0: That's pretty small.  A normal Ubuntu install will not fit on 4G03:05
lorenI ran the command in terminal and then tried to paste the display in this message line, resulting in a FloodBot.03:05
evansch0usr13 well it was only the boot up usb03:05
usr13!minimal | evansch003:05
ubottuevansch0: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD03:05
gmachine_24loten, so use pastebin03:05
gmachine_24*loren03:05
misterswag_how to update to frodo with using the webupd8 ppa?03:05
kittenmittenzi have a question..03:06
kittenmittenzare we human?.. or are we dancer?03:06
evansch0i also am using a boot up dvd now 700 mb03:06
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, ..............out with it03:06
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, we are devo03:06
kittenmittenzlol03:06
usr13kittenmittenz: Well, if it's about Ubuntu, you've come to the right place.  If not....well.03:06
usr13kittenmittenz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic03:07
kittenmittenzsorry... i have the killers - human stuck in my head03:07
gmachine_24kittenmittenz, I am running $dd on my hard drive and it is using >60% of the CPU03:07
usr13evansch0: You do not have a USB drive that is bigger than 4G?03:07
kittenmittenznaw, gmachine_24 is helping me im just waiting for a stupi check thingie03:07
usr13evansch0: How big is your sata drive?03:07
evansch0usr13: what is the ubuntu live user username and password because i cant get back on03:08
kittenmittenzit says 2.6%03:08
evansch0usr13: its only 2 gb03:08
filantropusHi there03:08
evansch0xD03:08
filantropusI have another Pc03:08
usr13evansch0: That is small!03:08
filantropusin that one03:08
gmachine_24evansch0, there is no username or password03:08
kittenmittenzan compiz is using 22- %03:08
filantropusi have this msg: "machine check exception"03:08
evansch0then why does it keep asking for one?03:08
kittenmittenz210%03:08
usr13kittenmittenz: so...?03:08
filantropusafter it, the pc goes down.03:09
usr13kittenmittenz: Do you have a question?03:09
filantropuscan someone help me?03:09
kittenmittenzwell.. thats more % than i have..03:09
gmachine_24evansch0, I do not know03:09
evansch0:/03:09
evansch0thats weird xD03:09
OerHeksfilantropus, "machine check exception" sounds like a hardwarefailure03:09
usr13filantropus: Ask a question, if someone knows the answer they will say so.03:09
ahmedipaI have problem with network manager03:10
ahmedipagnome03:10
filantropusand how can i know what kind of hardware fail is?03:10
usr13ahmedipa: What problem?03:10
ahmedipaI removed it by mistake03:10
usr13filantropus: "fail"?03:10
usr13ahmedipa: You can re-install it.03:10
filantropusyes.03:10
gmachine_24mce result when cpu determines there is a hardware error03:10
usr13ahmedipa:  Are you connected to the internet right now?03:10
evansch0usr13, gmachine_24, thank you for your help :D03:11
filantropusmy pc says:03:11
ahmedipausr13: how03:11
OerHeksfilantropus, depends on what bios maker, short-long beeps can tell03:11
filantropus"machine check exception"03:11
usr13ahmedipa: If so,  sudo apt-get install network-manager03:11
ahmedipausr13: yes by usb03:11
usr13ahmedipa: sudo apt-get install network-manager03:11
gmachine_24evansch0, anytime03:11
evansch0See yah everyone :D03:11
kittenmittenzwhats that site where i can put text03:12
evansch0thanks usr13 :/03:12
usr13!paste | kittenmittenz03:12
ubottukittenmittenz: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:12
ahmedipausr13: but in ubuntu no internet I have03:12
gmachine_24http://paste.ubuntu.com03:12
usr13ahmedipa: Why not?03:12
ahmedipausr13: may be by package I can do it03:12
lorenNeed help sending terminal output.  I tried http:// pastebinit but did not see URL.03:12
kittenmittenzhttp://pastebin.com/e3WQ0Xz303:12
usr13ahmedipa: Do you have a network cable plugged into your router?  Or are you using wireless?03:13
kittenmittenzis that ba gmachine?03:13
gmachine_24I've never seen anything use 211% of the cpu03:13
kittenmittenzlol03:13
ahmedipausr13: I am using wireless by using my usb live03:13
gmachine_24that would seem impossible03:13
gmachine_24and the xorg cpu use is high03:14
usr13ahmedipa: iwconfig   #Tell us the name of the adapter.03:14
OerHeks211%/400% 4-core03:14
kittenmittenzcpu isnt hot so.. i ont think its overclocking it03:14
usr13ahmedipa: Is it wlan0  ?   Or.... ____________?03:14
gmachine_24OerHeks, ahhhhhhhhh. thank you.03:14
kittenmittenzohh.. i have an 8core03:14
OerHeks 1 zombie03:14
ahmedipausr13: it is iwconfig03:15
gmachine_24Don't get personal.03:15
ahmedipasorry03:15
ahmedipawlan003:15
kittenmittenzpersonal?03:15
usr13ahmedipa: Open a terminal, type   iwconfig  Hit Enter.  See what it says.  (Tell  us the name of the wireless device, something like wlan0 ).03:15
gmachine_24nevermind. a bad joke. :)03:15
ahmedipayes it is wlan003:15
kittenmittenzammit, youtube stoppe working.. i hate live usb03:16
ahmedipausr13: it is wlan003:16
usr13ahmedipa: Ok,  do you know the essid of your wireless router?  If not, do   iwlist wlan0 scan03:16
usr13ahmedipa: What is the essid? ____________?03:16
st0bHey guys. I'm a long time 10.04 user migrating to 12.04. I've had a lot of trouble on a fresh install of 12.04 with my wireless connection slowing to a halt. I've even used different NIC's with the same result03:17
st0bI've never had any issue similar in 10.0403:17
ahmedipausr13: do you mean my network yes I know03:17
usr13ahmedipa: Yes, network name03:18
ahmedipausr13: I found the name of ESSID:03:18
usr13ahmedipa: network name =  ESSID03:19
ahmedipausr13: yeb03:19
usr13ahmedipa: Does your wireless router use encryption?03:19
ahmedipayes03:19
lorenFirst time on XChat.  How do I send output from terminal to this channel?03:19
ahmedipausr13: yes03:19
usr13ahmedipa: What type? WEP?03:19
ahmedipausr13: I don't remember03:20
st0bloren, post in pastebin and then the link here03:20
usr13ahmedipa: Ok, can't help you.  YOu will need to get an ethernet cable long enough to reach the router and just plug it in.03:20
ahmedipaaha03:21
usr13ahmedipa: Or, login to the router and temporarily turn off encryption.03:21
ahmedipausr13: sounds good03:21
usr13ahmedipa: If you have another computer that has an active connection to the router, you should be able to login to it and turn off encryption.03:22
bencccan I use selinux in ubuntu?03:22
usr13ahmedipa: Let us know when you have that done.03:22
usr13bencc: Yes03:23
billytwowillycan somebody point me to a repository with php 5.4.11 in it for quantal? the one I was using for precise doesn't have quantal packages and google has been no help...03:23
usr13bencc: sudo apt-get install selinux03:23
OerHeks!selinux03:23
ubottuSELinux is available on Ubuntu, but not officially supported. Ubuntu uses another security framework by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor03:23
ahmedipaI will back because I have another prplm03:23
usr13OerHeks: Thanks.03:24
OerHeksdisable appamor first, i think03:24
benccOerHeks: so it's not a good idea to use it?03:24
mehworkhow can i iterate through gnome-terminal tabs with my keyboard?03:24
benccOerHeks: I mean, if it's a security feature and it's not officially supported03:25
usr13bencc: As OerHeks points out, you are better off to use AppArmor, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor03:25
st0bI've been seeking help for my wifi dying after extended use. Restarting the network service seems to remedy the situation temporarily. I experience this on a fresh 12.04 install with multiple wireless NICs03:25
ahmedipausr13:I will restart within 10 minute I think I will finish before03:25
usr13ahmedipa: Do you now have encryption turned off?03:26
OerHeksbencc,  i have no experience with selinux/ubuntu, i think it is a design choice03:26
malkaunsin 12.10 how do i get empathy to remember my yahoo contacts?03:27
kittenmittenzi have a 250gb Vertex 4 SSD, is there compatibility issues with it on ubuntu?03:27
mehworkit seems weird to make security features something that can be disabled03:27
usr13malkauns: Aren't they on your yahoo web based interface?03:27
usr13malkauns: Or are you using a PC based email client?  If so, which one?03:28
malkaunsusr13, yea but when i rename a contact in empathy it should remember it03:28
mehworkit's like giving someone a hard hat but not making them wear it03:28
usr13malkauns: You have a set of contacts in empathy?03:29
malkaunsusr13, i'm using empathy which is a standalone Multi-IM client for linux03:29
malkaunsusr13, yes03:29
malkaunsusr13, but when i restart empathy it doesn't remember what i renamed my yahoo contacts to03:29
usr13malkauns: I do not know if mpathy will automatically upload new contact information to Yahoo, but I do not think it does.03:29
usr13malkauns: I figure it's better to just use the web-based email server.03:31
usr13malkauns: ... that way, you are not restricted to only using your home PC for email.03:31
malkaunsusr13, erm, not the ideal solution when i use facebook-chat, google-talk and aim03:32
Evansch0hi03:32
usr13malkauns: I always thought that was what tabs were for.  (in the browser).03:33
malkaunsusr13, i am aware the pro's and cons or using a web based interface but the problem is Empathy should remember the aliases i set03:33
usr13malkauns: Maybe it does, I dono03:33
s5fsHey, if I've got a service that it started by dbus, and I kill it with 'kill', how do I re-start it? Is there  like a dbus-service-start or whatever?03:34
lorenFinally figured out how to use pastbin.  My URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587756/03:34
usr13malkauns: http://library.gnome.org/users/empathy/stable/03:35
usr13s5fs: What service is it?03:36
Evansch0:303:37
Evansch0sup everyone03:37
usr13s5fs: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus03:37
Guest84410hey Evansch003:38
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Evansch0hi03:39
Evansch0???03:39
usr13loren: So it is the wireless that is not working?03:39
Evansch0sooo......03:40
iManassahlol, just sayin hi03:40
Evansch0:P03:40
iManassahnot much going on here03:40
=== Evansch0 is now known as DERP
usr13loren: lsmod |grep iwl   #Tell us what that says.03:40
iManassahbeen here for like an hour dicking around03:40
DERPlol03:40
ahmedipahi03:40
ahmedipaI solve first problem03:41
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ahmedipabut I have second problem03:41
Evansch0mwahaha03:41
ahmedipaWireless disconnects with ubuntu  12.04LTS03:41
ahmedipathis problem starts today03:41
iManassahanyone play with yamas?03:41
usr13loren: If   lsmod |grep iwl  returns nothing, do this:   sudo modprobe iwl394503:41
ahmedipausr13: back03:41
iManassahmitm for ubuntu03:41
Evansch0so i have 12.04 lts and im trying to figure out the password and username if the account times out03:41
ahmedipathank you for helping me about the first problem03:42
usr13ahmedipa: Do you now have encryption turned off?03:42
ahmedipausr13: my main problem wireless03:42
iManassahEvans...when your machine first boots up, choose to boot with recovery mode, or something like that03:42
lorenPlaces in the archive manager does not show the windows share file, so I cannot direct the output to my home server.  Nautilus has no trouble locating the file and allowing me to read and write.03:42
Evansch0how03:42
ahmedipahow can I check this03:42
iManassahEvans:  that will take you to a root prompt, then just passwd (user) to change password03:42
Evansch0i dont have ubuntu installed03:43
usr13ahmedipa: Did you log into the router and turn encryption off?03:43
Evansch0xD03:43
ahmedipausr13: I used wired03:43
iManassahwhat do you have Evans03:43
Evansch0a boot up disk03:43
usr13ahmedipa:  sudo apt-get install network-manager03:43
ahmedipausr13: wired instead of wireless03:43
Evansch0for ubuntu 12.04 lts03:43
iManassaha boot up disk?03:44
Evansch0dvd03:44
usr13ahmedipa: Open a terminal, type:   sudo apt-get install network-manager   Hit Enter.03:44
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ahmedipausr13: I did it03:44
iManassahEvans:   can't timeout unless its installed i believe...03:44
usr13ahmedipa: Good.03:44
Evansch0lol well it did xD03:44
DigitalPhilgood evening... can anyone help with fancontrol on a gateway laptop? My fan runs at idle...pwmconfig detects no sensors...and the sensors command gives me an accurate (HOT!!!) temperature readout03:44
usr13ahmedipa: When you reboot, you should see the network-manager applet again.03:45
iManassahggggggggggggg03:45
iManassahsorry cat just walked across my keyboard03:45
Evansch0lol03:45
lorenneither command returned anything03:45
ahmedipausr13: I saw that it tries to find network but after that it says disconnect03:45
iManassahhmmm whats it say when you login?03:45
DigitalPhiliManassah: meow.03:45
Evansch0no login xD03:45
Evansch0DigitalPhil: nice xD03:46
usr13!fan | DigitalPhil03:46
ubottuDigitalPhil: fan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html03:46
antonio_I'm trying to access a folder called Market Samurai in terminal...what syntax should I use?03:46
ahmedipausr13: I can use internet by my mobile whereas I can't in my laptop03:46
iManassahlol...thanks ya'll03:46
iManassahjust says "no login"03:47
usr13ahmedipa: Why not?03:47
iManassah?03:47
dr_willisantonio_:  cd 'folder name'03:47
usr13ahmedipa: What is your native language?03:47
vilemanChinese03:47
ahmedipausr13: I surprise03:47
ahmedipausr13: arabic03:47
antonio_dr_willis: tried that03:47
iManassahEvansch0:  can you log in as root?03:47
dr_willisantonio_:  or cd   folder<tabkey> to auto complete the name03:47
antonio_ha03:48
antonio_ah03:48
spetsnozis ext4 a full 64-bit file system? this part of the ext4 wiki seems to be saying otherwise https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Bigger_File_System_and_File_Sizes03:48
Evansch0no03:48
antonio_bash: cd: Market: No such file or directory03:48
usr13ahmedipa: FYI:   #ubuntu-arabic03:48
iManassahEvansch0:  does it even give you a login screen?03:48
antonio_dr_willis: don't I need to put a / in between the two words?03:48
dr_willisantonio_:  you have several folders called market whatever ?03:48
antonio_nope03:49
antonio_should it be cd Market\ Samurai ?03:49
dr_willisantonio_:  tab completion shoudl add it automatically...03:49
antonio_didn't03:49
dr_willisantonio_:  try it and see...03:49
antonio_haha03:49
antonio_I'm an idiot03:49
dr_williscd "dir with spaces" whould work also03:49
dr_willisstop using spaces in file and dir names = best answer03:49
antonio_forgot I was already in the folder...03:50
ahmedipausr13: may I show you screen shot ?03:50
usr13ahmedipa: Sure, pastebinit03:50
usr13!paste | ahmedipa03:51
ubottuahmedipa: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:51
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ahmedipaI see what you mean03:51
usr13antonio_: pwd is your friend03:52
DigitalPhilusr13:  that url from the bot returned a blank page.03:53
ahmedipausr13: http://imagebin.org/24476503:53
usr13dr_willis: Good advice.  It is a bad idea to make file names or directory names that have spaces.  Very confusing.03:53
ahmedipausr13: this is the screen shot03:53
usr13DigitalPhil: What URL?03:53
DigitalPhil[22:46:22] <usr13> !fan | DigitalPhil03:54
usr13ahmedipa: There you go.  It's working.03:54
ahmedipausr13: this application try to find network but it tell me disconnected03:54
ahmedipaI used wired not wireless03:54
usr13ahmedipa: Click up there where the up and down arrows are.03:54
DigitalPhilusr13: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html is the url the bot spit out, that url returns blank in three browsers.03:55
ahmedipausr13:although I select my network and I type password, it search for network but it tell me disconnected03:56
ahmedipausr13: may be because I updated a lot03:56
antonio_usr13: huh what is pwd03:58
antonio_?03:58
zygopteraantonio_ | pwd is a command that tells you what directory you are in03:58
antonio_ah03:58
usr13ahmedipa: Are you sure the passphrase is correct?03:59
ahmedipa yes, if incorrect it will tell me03:59
usr13ahmedipa: If you can login to the router from another PC, you can either see what the password is, or change it.04:00
antonio_argh04:00
lorenloren@loren-laptop:~$ sudo lsmod | grep iwl04:00
loreniwl3945                73145  004:00
loreniwl_legacy             71187  1 iwl394504:00
lorenmac80211              436493  2 iwl3945,iwl_legacy04:00
lorencfg80211              178877  3 iwl3945,iwl_legacy,mac8021104:00
FloodBot1loren: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.04:00
usr13!paste | loren04:00
ubottuloren: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.04:00
usr13loren: iwconfig | pastebinit04:01
ahmedipaI am checking04:01
usr13loren: Open a terminal and type   iwconfig | pastebinit  Hit Enter and send resulting URL [here]04:01
antonio_I'm getting so damn frustrated04:03
antonio_I'm trying to install Market Samurai - its an adobe air application...04:03
lorenpastebinit command not found04:03
antonio_I tried updating it from root a few minutes ago and the entire program was deleted!04:03
ahmedipaI changed one mistake04:04
ahmedipaI will reboot and I will see what will happened I think same problem04:04
ahmedipahappen04:04
usr13loren: sudo apt-get install pastebinit04:05
d1rkp1ttHi all, I am running an ubuntu server minus desktop on low memory. Just wondering if anyone has a good resource on what can be safely trimmed from the system to get a very small footprint04:05
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TheLordOfTimed1rkp1tt, how low are we talking for memory?04:05
usr13loren: http://imagebin.org/24476704:05
antonio_when I try to install marketsamurai.air an xterm window opens up...and its not accepting my root password...dr_willis: any ideas?04:05
lorenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1587871/04:06
zygopteraubuntu doesn't by default have a root password04:06
slipp3dso here is a wondering ... I have xubuntu installed and working fine .. .but any time I load up a site that has flash on it the computer locks up and the computer is completely unresponsive ... I have to hold the power button down to get it to let go ... any thoughts on that .....04:06
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usr13antonio_: Use user password04:06
antonio_"this application requires administrative rights to run"04:06
antonio_usr13: its not working04:07
slipp3dI have tried different browsers ... but it does not matter ...04:07
usr13antonio_: what application is it?04:07
zygopteraslipp3d | flash itself is pretty buggy04:07
antonio_market samurai...04:07
antonio_its an adobe air application04:07
bluntedFdisk and parted cannot seem to find sda. However it is there and has 1&2 mounted, no raid no lvm04:08
slipp3dzygoptera, I realize that ... but that does not explain why it was working and now it does not04:08
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Ubuntu Server is already pretty thin. It doesn't come with a whole lot of extra stuff by default. But if you want, you can add anything from the repos...04:08
antonio_usr13: see this picture  the black window at the top is asking for my password04:09
pozhi04:09
antonio_http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/con_movies/Screenshotfrom2013-01-29180713_zpse83f7774.png04:09
antonio_the problem is that its not accepting my password04:09
d1rkp1ttrob_b ... thanks. It was pretty good out of the box, until i did an apt-get upgrade04:09
zygopteraslipp3d | did you update your flash?04:09
d1rkp1ttrob_p the upgrade increased the footprint a bit04:10
bluntedWhere do disk and parted look for disk info?04:10
slipp3dzygoptera, installed from the software center04:10
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Shouldn't have though... upgrades simply replace older versions...04:10
slipp3dso i would guess that is the most current04:10
antonio_got it..I had to run sudo /usr/bin/Adobe\ AIR\ Application\ Installer04:10
dr_willisantonio_: run it as root.. better idea  dont use air at all...04:10
zygopteraslipp3d | was it  previous version that was working right?04:11
rob_pd1rkp1tt: That's not to say that the newer versions aren't sometimes a little bigger... but not usually significantly.04:11
antonio_dr_willis: I have to run air for this program..no way around it04:11
dr_willisid find a differnt program then04:11
slipp3d12.04 was working ... 12.10 is broken04:11
antonio_dr_willis: its the industry standard04:11
dr_willisair is basically dead on linuxx04:11
d1rkp1ttrob_p thanks04:11
linux34892I have no sound in Ubuntu 12.10 and alsamixer says cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, i tried installing alsa and pulseaudio from the repos... still no sound, soundcard is NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)04:11
rob_pd1rkp1tt: The difference in *most* cases should be negligable...04:11
zygopteraslipp3d | that's true04:11
antonio_Thats what drives me nuts about linux... "find a different program"04:11
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Is your system dipping into swap?04:12
dr_willisantonio_:  adobe ahs killed air on linux.  it may fail to work at any time. no security updates and so forth04:12
usr13antonio_: I don't know about samurai  How did you install it?04:12
rob_pd1rkp1tt: If not, then there's no need to worry...04:12
usr13antonio_: Is this it? > http://www.madirish.net/188 <04:12
dr_willisadobe is great at screwing things up..04:12
antonio_nope usr13: www.marketsamurai.com04:13
slipp3dso i guess i'm stuck not using flash at all ... or down grade to 10.0404:13
zygopteraslipp3d | I thought you said 12.04 worked?04:13
dr_willisslipp3d:  i ten to use flash downloader extensions, or flash-replacer extsnioons taht play videos in vlc04:13
dr_willisslipp3d:  but flash is working for me on 12.10  64bit with my nvidia cards04:14
usr13antonio_: What file did you download? (Can you give us the filename?04:14
rob_pd1rkp1tt: ...but if you're hitting swap, then you might want to look into ways to avoid it.04:14
slipp3d12.04 is what I meant to type ...04:14
usr13antonio_: Does it offer install packages for different distros?04:15
zygopteraslipp3d | 12.04 isn't so bad, it will be supported much longer04:15
d1rkp1ttits not yet... but its brand new and I havent loaded it up04:15
d1rkp1ttJust thinking, it hasnt got much for what I want to do04:15
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Just keep an eye on it.  Also, make sure you understand memory management in Linux before you assume that your system is RAM hungry. Remember, unused RAM is wasted ram! :)04:16
antonio_usr13: nope04:16
slipp3ddr_willis, i'm running that on an intel based laptop04:16
antonio_I've got it working for now04:16
usr13antonio_: See my PM04:16
d1rkp1ttrob_p 77mb spare, isnt a lot04:16
usr13antonio_: ok good.04:17
slipp3dzygoptera, is 12.04 getting the newest version of xfce? or is it stuck on the older versions?04:17
dr_willis!latest04:17
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:17
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Again, make sure you understand how much *spare* RAM your system actually has!04:17
zygopteraslipp3d | I believe you can still get the newest xfce04:17
vilemanwho know why i couldn't find firefox in awesome except use shell04:18
slipp3di'll have to look into that zygoptera that might be an option04:18
rob_pd1rkp1tt: buffers, cache, etc...04:18
cfhowlettslipp3d, installing xfce is easy ...04:18
zygopteraslipp3d | but you can't downgrade back to 12.04, you have to reinstall04:18
d1rkp1ttYeah I am reading from top and free-m04:18
slipp3dright ... i'm not worried about it ... just didn't want to backup and reinstall agin ...04:19
slipp3d+a04:19
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Linux memory management is misleading to the uninformed... (not saying that you are, just saying...)04:19
d1rkp1ttrob_p its ok... Im no expert04:19
slipp3dbrb ...04:19
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Just keep an eye on swap and if you start digging into it and the value stadily increases, then you are indeed exhausting your physical RAM and then you'd want to address it.04:21
d1rkp1ttrob_p Thanks.04:21
rob_pd1rkp1tt: Until then, just enjoy your Ubuntu Server! :)04:21
linux34892I have no sound in Ubuntu 12.10 and alsamixer says cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, i tried installing alsa and pulseaudio from the repos... still no sound, soundcard is NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)04:21
rob_pd1rkp1tt: welcome04:21
zygopteralinux34892 | does alsaconf detect any sound devices?04:22
usr13d1rkp1tt: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html04:22
linux34892zygoptera: apt-cache search alsaconf04:23
linux34892zygoptera: no program found matching that; sudo lspci -v shows a soundcard04:23
usr13linux34892: What version of Ubuntu did you install?  lsb_release -a04:23
zygopteralinux34892 | hhm. alsaconf usually comes with alsa04:23
d1rkp1ttusr13, thanks for that04:24
linux34892zygoptera: just got it working with sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel04:24
zygopteraok04:24
usr13d1rkp1tt: NP04:24
usr13linux34892: Good.04:25
linux34892usr13: Description:Ubuntu 12.1004:25
usr13linux34892: Did you do minimal install?04:25
xrshow to install tty font when fontforge is installed?04:25
usr13linux34892: (I'm wondering why alsa and pulseaudio was not installed.04:25
Ben64usr13: i was thinking the same thing04:25
usr13xrs: What?04:26
xrsgoogle says just double lick the font and click install, but it opens in fontforge and i dont see an "install" button04:27
zygopteraxrs | are you sure it isn't already installed?04:27
usr13xrs: man fontforge04:27
xrsits a custom font that didnt come with ubuntu04:28
Ben64xrs: you have to open it with "font viewer"04:28
usr13xrs: http://font.ubuntu.com/04:28
xrs...04:29
wolftuneanybody know how to access DVDs over a network where a mac is the device with the DVD (and set to sharing)?04:30
nyRednekquestion, when building a custom livecd image, what needs to be removed to remove the "install" option?04:30
wolftuneI can't seem to get it to show on my Ubuntu system04:30
xrsWolfpack,  do you have samba installed?04:30
wolftuneyes I installed samba04:30
usr13xrs: See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts  (ttf-mscorefonts-installer)04:31
wolftuneunder smb: workgroup I see the mac, but then it times out when I open it04:31
usr13wolftune: An Apple computer?04:32
wolftunethe Linux computer is not Apple, the Apple is what I'm trying to access04:32
wolftuneI did not install samba specifically on the Apple04:32
Ben64can you access it with anything else04:32
Ben64seems like its an apple problem04:33
wolftuneI can use remote desktop and control the Apple that way04:33
genoobiehey all04:33
wolftunehi04:33
cfhowlettgenoobie, greetings04:33
genoobieI just finished installing lubuntu04:33
genoobiebut the video is a bit screwed up04:34
genoobieat the login if i hit ctrl+alt+f104:34
genoobieI get a text / cli04:34
genoobieand I can loging04:34
genoobielogin04:34
genoobienot sure how to fix my video tho04:34
Ben64genoobie: don't use enter as punctuation. how is the video screwed up? can you post a picture? what video card does the computer have?04:35
genoobiewell it's got some form of S3 / Savage04:36
genoobieIt's hard to describe the video screw-up04:36
genoobieit certainly cannot display correctly04:36
genoobiethe machine says it has 133 pkgs to be updates04:36
Ben64give us a picture. and you don't need to use so many lines, use commas or periods or something04:37
cfhowlettgenoobie, for a fresh install on first update, that's about right04:37
thoonaidoes ping send thing on other pipes as stdout? and how I detect them?04:37
genoobieokay, I will try not to use enter as a form of punctuation. Sorry.  I can't quite get a picture online.04:37
lorenusr13 did you get my paste?04:37
Ben64genoobie: you don't have a cell phone with a camera, or a camera?04:37
genoobieokay, let me see if I can make that happen...04:38
Tecanhttp://pastebin.com/DBaeBSVs04:38
Tecanhowcome i get this04:38
thoonaidoes ping send thing on other pipes as stdout? and how I detect them?04:38
RocketLauncherHow can I get Gnome's keyboard shortcuts to work with another window manager? I don't want to fiddle with xbindkeys....04:39
kunjithoonai: Umm, you mean when someone pings your ip?04:39
TheLordOfTimeTecan, the 404s are because those PPAs likely don't support the relese you're on (thereby there's nothing to find there, hence 404)04:39
Tecanya but how do i delete them04:39
TheLordOfTimeTecan, as for the getdeb one, i think they're down, but if they aren't its a sign you can't get there04:39
usr13loren: I don't know.   Send the URL again.04:40
TheLordOfTimeTecan, remove the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that correspond to the PPAs04:40
TheLordOfTimes/entries/files/04:40
TecanTY04:40
lorenI'll pick up the problem tomorrow. Need to quit.04:40
usr13loren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587756/ ?04:41
thoonaikunji: I want to call some programms with a python subprocess, so I called ping and read stdout, but just the general stuff and the summeray appeared on stdout, the rest (steps in between) doesnt04:41
kunjiRocketLauncher: I'm not sure if you can, I don't know how that interacts too well though, maybe your other window manager supports assigning them it's own way?04:41
red82I am trying to optimize the performance of a magento installation on an ubuntu server.  can anyone suggest a good link for me to read?04:41
cfhowlettred82, this would be a good question for #ubuntu-server04:42
RocketLauncherkunji: i'm using dwm, my window manager doesn't handle any of that04:42
red82ty04:42
RocketLauncherI just wonder if there's daemon or something i can start04:42
kunjithoonai: That's interesting... because when I ping I see everything getting printed on stdout, you can check on the command line, e.g. ping google.com04:42
kunjithoonai: Are you using some non-standard implementation of ping?04:43
gayleexit04:43
genoobieBen64 are you still here? This is what the login screen looks like the login screen looks like this....http://postimage.org/image/76g39fvnl/7648fc50/04:44
thoonaikunji: the original one from ubuntu, nothing changed04:44
thoonaiif I call it in the terminal I get all output too04:44
kunjiRocketLauncher: Well, I guess you wanted minimalism then, I guess you got it :P  Hmm, reading the wiki page for dwm it sounds like there should be a way from how the dmenu section reads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwm04:45
kunjithoonai: here's an example of my ping, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588100/  You're sure yours doesn't do that?04:46
Tristan128what kernel version is 12.04 using?04:49
kunjithoonai: Oh, sorry missed that post, so on terminal you get it all, exactly how are you calling it then?  Shell script called from python?  Directly from python?  It would be good if you pastebin the relevant bit of code.04:50
kunjiTristan128: There is a chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases04:52
xrsokay check this. i can manually install the font into my home dir, but this does not address the root cause of why i am here. i am here because the directions on how to install a font using the GUI do not apply because i have fontforge installed. double clicking on the font opens the font in fontforge and not whatever the ubuntu default is, so can you tell me the name of the package that ubuntu is supposed to be using by default?04:53
makarahi. I'm (12.04) trying to install the latest Evolution (3.2.3 > 3.4.3). I added ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 and did update, upgrade and install evolution. But it's still 3.2.3?04:53
makaraits so buggy, its a schlepp to use04:53
xrsyou ran sudo apt-get update first?04:54
Tecanme ?04:54
xrs@ makara,04:54
djdosFailed to open a session for the virtual machine ubuntu.  VT-x features locked or unavailable in MSR. (VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED).  Result Code: E_FAIL (0x80004005) Component: Console Interface: IConsole {db7ab4ca-2a3f-4183-9243-c1208da92392}04:54
kunjimakara: Why are you trying to use  a newer one....04:54
djdoswhats this for04:54
djdos?04:55
ESphynxSomehow after ditching Unity for XFCE I get nice screensavers =) i think that's the nicest part :P04:55
djdoswhats this error message ?04:55
xrsdjdos,  are you trying to run a virtual machine?04:55
kunjiESphynx: You can get them in Unity as well, they're just not installed by default.04:55
makaraxrs, yes, I did update04:55
djdosyes04:55
RakkoHi all. Some of you may recall I was complaining about high-latency scrolling in my Ubuntu VM, when using my Mac's trackpad. Well, I just plugged in my mouse, and it has the same problem.04:55
bluebeat09hello!. i been trying to fix mi wifi connection for weeks now and nothingg--( wifi disconnects frequently) i have: AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)04:56
makarakunji, less bugs04:56
bluebeat09pleasee help!04:56
ESphynxkunji I just like nice defaults :P04:56
xrsmakara,  open you software sources and try enableing backports and proposed updates04:56
djdoswhats the prob04:56
RakkoI've been able to pinpoint its behavior a little more: one "click" of the scroll wheel scrolls a very small distance, maybe one line. A more vigorous motion of the wheel scrolls by the "normal" (to my standards) amounts.04:56
RakkoHow do I get the initial scroll increment to not be tiny?04:56
kunjidjdos: Did you read this one yet?  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=12866804:56
makarabluebeat09, what version ubuntu?04:57
bluebeat09makara: 12.1004:57
kunjiESphynx: Yeah, me too, just seemed like replacing the whole environment was a bigger jump than installing a few packages.  ^_^04:57
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kunjimakara: Umm, do you know for sure the new one is less buggy?  I just  don't use it at all myself.04:58
makarabluebeat09, the latest usually sorts that out. Guess not in your case. Linux been struggling with wifi cards for years04:58
makarakunji, http://askubuntu.com/questions/167475/evolution-3-4-3-on-12-0404:59
kittenmittenzwheres the offtopic channel04:59
bluebeat09makara, new linux user over here... but i figure there is something i can do to make it more stable04:59
thoonaikunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588124/05:00
djdosii disabled it05:00
thoonaikittenmittenz: huh?05:00
djdosthen it told me you hve to enable it05:01
kittenmittenzhuh?05:01
djdosthats the solution05:01
kunjimakara: Oh, you have it working, nice ^_^05:02
pozman, is it ever a hassle to get tor to work on x chat05:04
makarabluebeat09, do you have 'pre-released updates' on? make sure you get the latest updates05:04
thoonaikunji: there?05:04
kunjithoonai: Yeah, umm is the readline mayhaps getting just the last line?05:05
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digitalphiltv!fan05:08
ubottufan is Control the fan  on/off  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html05:08
thoonaikunji: dont know but now it works05:08
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kittenmittenswhy is it every time i set up my pc, then update it crases and nothing works?05:08
thoonaikunji: *shrugs* thanks05:08
thoonai:)05:08
kittenmittensshould i be updating first?05:08
digitalphiltvke5pcv-away, de n9td have a good evening05:09
kunjithoonai: Hmm, I'm starting to wonder if ping is buggy, at least my results seem to be inconsistent with it at the moment.05:09
UndisclosedServe(don't mean to spam just checking to see if the irc client im using connected properly)05:10
thoonaikunji: that would be extremely hilarious since ping is from the 1930s05:10
thoonaikunji: ok its not, but I think ping was the first programm after the invention of tcp/ip05:11
kunjithoonai: For instance I don't get the summary when I pipe ping http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588137/  Also I'm having another weird issue:  I've noticed something perplexing T.T, any thoughts on this issue would be appreciated.  I can ping from my desktop to my router 0% packet loss, and from my router to google 0% packet loss, but from my desktop to google I get 10-15% packet loss.  This is over > 30 pings each test and I can reproduce it on re05:11
kunjithoonai: I hope ping is ok though ^_^05:11
digitalphiltvalrighty... I am still having fan issues...and the url from the bot's !fan command which someone tried to get me to run earlier, leads me to a blank page. I'm running k10temp sensors trying to get lm-sensors' fancontrol script to run my fan because at the moment the fan is IDLING and my laptop is running VERY HOT... any ideas out there? thanks!05:11
thoonaikunji: may I ask you where do you live ^^?05:12
xrsokay found the solution. my system was missing the package "gnome-font-viewer"05:12
kunjithoonai: How specifically :P  Michigan.05:12
thoonaiin soviet russia packet losses you05:13
digitalphiltv/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed05:13
* digitalphiltv is about ready to shoot pwmconfig05:13
thoonaikunji: you shouldn't have packet loss there ^^05:13
kunjixrs: Oh... that is for installing fonts?  I thought it was just for viewing them... I've always just installed them on the cmd so I didn't know the answer to GUI questions about it or I would have helped :P05:14
kunjithoonai: I know right, especially because it's ping A -> B ok, ping B -> C ok, ping A -> C ERROR05:14
thoonai dont know, ethernet is voodoo, nothing to worry about05:15
thoonaiits like hf05:15
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RakkoI find mouse scrolling in modern Ubuntu annoying: one "click" of the scroll wheel scrolls a very small distance, maybe one line. A more vigorous motion of the wheel scrolls by the "normal" (to my standards) amounts. How can I make scrolling always jump a decent (and preferably consistent) amount?05:17
RakkoI don't remember it being like this in 10.1005:18
thoonaikunji: thx and I'll quit here and get some stuff working :)05:18
thoonaicu around05:18
kunjiRakko: I remember seeing a setting for how many lines it should scroll somewhere.. I can't seem to find it right now though.05:20
Rakkokunji: hmm.05:24
OpheliaPandideI need help with wifi upon installing 12.10 onto my mac 10.705:24
Rakkoactually maybe it's just firefox that is lame in this regard05:24
OpheliaPandideI have tried a lot of different things and found none to work05:25
OpheliaPandideI have to use a usb05:25
kunjiRakko: Oh, I'm pretty sure I can find the firefox setting for that, I'm pretty sure they use their own05:25
Rakkoof course. firefox ftw05:25
kittenmittenscan someone tell e why my laptop and pc both die after i update them05:25
OpheliaPandidedoes anyone have any ideas as to the wifi problem??05:26
kunjiRakko: Well, they have a lot of setting you can play with, type about:config in the address bar, press enter, tell them you'll be careful and search for mousewheel05:26
kunji*settings05:26
kittenmittensopheliapandide, have you looked in aditional drivers to see if theres a wifi driver to activate05:26
Rakkokunji: ok. I turned off "smooth scrolling" and that helped!05:26
kunjiRakko: nice ^_^05:27
Rakkobut the Mac trackpad support is still laggy-feeling. oh well05:27
RakkoI'm hopefully gonna ditch this laptop soon05:27
OpheliaPandideI looked in software sources --> additional drivers05:27
kittenmittensanyone???05:27
IveBeenBitI am trying to learn the concepts behind mounting and unmounting. I go to the launcher and type "disks" which is an app that lets you see the drives attached to the system. It says my flashdrive mount point is /mnt/usb-SanDisk_Cruiser... is the mount point. Why is /mnt empty though when I ls -l /mnt?05:27
OpheliaPandidebut no driver05:27
kittenmittensagh05:28
kittenmittensi need a ubuntu genious05:28
kittenmittensor a ubuntu doctor05:28
Rakkoi.e. I have to move my two fingers almost halfway across the trackpad before scrolling even starts. makes everything feel very slow05:28
Rakkokittenmittens: "die"?05:28
kittenmittenswell on my laptop i get filesyst em is readonly, and on pc it freezes at the startup05:29
kittenmittenssooo...05:29
kittenmittensboth happen after upadting, so i dont05:29
OpheliaPandideI tried sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common b43-fwcutter05:29
OpheliaPandide... from05:29
OpheliaPandidehttp://blog.projectz.me/2012/10/21/setting-up-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-macbook-pro/05:29
OpheliaPandideGetting Wifi on Ubuntu 12.10 needs manual install05:29
OpheliaPandideHow to:05:29
FloodBot1OpheliaPandide: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:29
OpheliaPandidefrom05:29
kunjiIveBeenBit: Umm... never heard of this disks command.  I think it might be looking at cached default mount points done by the automounting?  I think what you should read on is the mount command, umount, the mtab file, and the fstab file.05:29
Rakkokittenmittens: ouch. have you asked on askubuntu or a mailing list?05:31
kittenmittensno05:31
kunjiIveBeenBit: Also for getting general info about your disks read about fdisk, parted, and blkid, also maybe hdparm05:31
IveBeenBitkunji, "Disks" is a graphical app that came with Ubuntu 12.10 check it out. It reminds me of gparted. Also, thanks for the tips.05:31
kittenmittensive been trying to get it to work on both for over a week05:31
kittenmittensdove every possible harware test, windows works flawlessly, not ubuntu05:31
IveBeenBitkunji, that's too much info for me right now as I'm still too noobish. I will be happy when I can mount and unmount USBs and IMG files from the terminal. :-)05:32
kunjiIveBeenBit: Hmm, do you know the package name?  I don't have a package called disks.  Maybe udisks, or gnome-disk-utility?05:34
kittenmittensso am i doomed to windows?05:34
kunjiIveBeenBit: mount is the one you want for mount the USBs, and umount to unmount them.  IMG files I forget the command for, it involves a loopback device gimme a sec to look it up.05:34
IveBeenBitkunji, This is the homepage from the "about" menu. I think it is just called "disks." https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks05:35
kunjiIveBeenBit: Ah, both the packages I mentioned seem to be what it is (read the part under Status)05:35
kunjiIveBeenBit: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2747/ubuntu_how_to_mount_unmount_iso_files/ Hmm, I think it's pretty much the same process for .img as well05:37
np8Hi! I'm having a problem with my wireless network. On ubuntu 12.04 it is dropping me from the internet. After it has dropped me, it tries to reconnect, asks the password and tries to reconnect forever. I tried disabling->enabling the wireless funtionality (the "flying mode") but it doesn't help. Is here anyone who can read the crash reports (i have it as 9 png's on google drive).05:37
IveBeenBitkunji, Thanks! Adding it to my reading list now!05:37
kittenmittensi feel like background noise05:37
antonio_I'm getting a bunch of errors when I first start ubuntu 12.10 up05:39
ubuntuuserhello people. having trouble with wifi. lspci shows atheros ar9285. rfkill list shows hardblocked: yes. Side switch on the network has been toggled on/off multiple times. fn+f5 showing wifi signal has been toggled multiple times. nothing. this used to work on live usb on boot. now it doesn't. any help will be appreciated.05:39
antonio_is there a terminal command I can run to find out what the hell is going on?05:39
antonio_anyone?05:40
sockswithsandalsHello05:40
ubuntuuserlshw -class network still shows *-network DISABLED.05:41
ice-.05:41
sockswithsandalsIs there a way to get the oldschool verbose boot with the little tux in the upper left corner?05:41
np8ubuntuuser: I'm having almost the same problem.. my crash report is here: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B-msgBr6cWoATmQxVzBuS1VpYjA/edit .. anyone know what I can do? Rebooting helps, though.05:41
antonio_I'm so over ubuntu05:41
antonio_nothing is working05:41
antonio_I can't open pdfs05:41
ubuntuusernp8: mine doesn't work with rebooting. doesn't work at all. using wired currently.05:41
ice-anyone knows if there's an IRC channel for picuntu? http://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/wiki/PicUntu05:42
kittenmittenshow do i make ubuntu work05:42
ubuntuuserantonio_: you're trying to open pdf file using what?05:42
sockswithsandalsantonio_: Why not?05:42
antonio_document viewer05:42
antonio_doesn't open them05:42
sockswithsandalsWHat does it say?05:42
antonio_nothing05:42
antonio_it doesn't do anything05:42
kunjikittenmittens: It's because no one here at the moment knows the answer and you've been spamming a bit.  Typically you should just ask your question and then be patient because if someone knows they will help.  If your question is long or you have lots of supporting data (logs, screenshots, etc..) you should pastebin them and post the link with your question.  You should probably not ask the question again for at least 15 minutes, otherwise 05:42
ubuntuusersockswithsandals: the tux logo was part of the free kernel settings. so suppose you'll have to recompile the kernel unless that has changed lately.05:42
sockswithsandalstry opening it in the terminal, antonio_05:42
gh403Grub2 recommends that it not be installed to a partition's boot sector.  Yet Ubuntu seems to do this if you ask it, during the installation.  Is this an issue in practice?05:43
dr_willisgh403:  if you tell it to install to sda1 yes it can... but normally it would go on sda05:43
kittenmittens-_-05:43
gh403dr_willis:05:43
dr_willisgh403:  some people want to chainload grub05:43
ubuntuuserantonio_: it doesn't open any pdfs or just the one you've tried. some pdfs tend to be huge and take a while to open. others tends to be empty.05:44
antonio_I'm also getting a lot of all pdfs05:44
gh403Yeah, I want to, dr_willis.  But Grub doesn't like that.  See the blue box in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Install_to_Partition_or_Partitionless_Disk05:45
antonio_also I'm getting a lot of "system program problem detected...do you want to report the problem now"05:45
antonio_is there any way to find out what is broken on my system?05:46
RabblerouserI just messed up my Wubi install. :S05:47
ubuntuuserantonio_: is this a livecd or a properly installed system? system program problem sounds a little serious.05:48
RabblerouserWas trying to get graphics drivers on, but.. erm... when I restarted, I had no.. no Unity. No bar at the top when logging in, no sidebar. Just a wallpaper.05:48
dr_willisRabblerouser:  what video card?05:49
antonio_ubuntuuser: its installed05:49
RabblerouserI rightclicked to go to appearance settings, then backed out to see it wasn't running under "Unknown" but "VESA RV(something)"05:49
RabblerouserATI Radeon HD 467005:49
dr_willisand how did you install the drivers Rabblerouser ?05:50
antonio_brb05:50
RabblerouserWell, I kinda.. forgot there were updates in the background, so I went to looking for guidance online (sorta newbie) The tries in Terminal were blocked because apparently something else was looking at the process?05:51
RabblerouserI'll just reinstall the Wubi thing05:51
RabblerouserAt least I think they USED to call it Wubi.05:52
dr_willisbetter to avoid wubi05:52
RabblerouserHow so, dr_willis?05:52
dr_willisits fragile, flakey, crashy, and slower then a full install05:52
antonio_ubuntu 12.10 is starting to get very annoying05:53
RabblerouserI did notice it was incredibly slower than the LiveUSB.. I chocked that up to not having a proper graphics driver installed yet05:53
antonio_10.04 worked fine...and I stupidly updated05:54
antonio_I'm getting a ton of crashes05:54
dr_willis!10,0405:54
antonio_for example just now05:54
DoritoPENIS05:54
dr_willis!10.0405:54
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)05:54
antonio_"the application photo lens for unity has closed unexpectdly"05:54
Dorito(sorry)05:54
dr_willis10.04 will be eol soon05:54
dr_willisfor desktop at least05:55
antonio_frick..I can't even open a damn pdf05:55
RabblerouserAny idea when a 13.xx LTS might release? :3 And what it might bring?05:55
dr_willisRabblerouser:  the version # is the date... year/month05:55
dr_willisof reelease05:55
RabblerouserAaaah. Gotcha.05:56
dr_willisRabblerouser:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have articals on whats going to be new in 13.0405:56
antonio_when I try to open a pdf with xpdf term spits this out05:56
antonio_http://pastebin.com/txFNHTjs05:56
RabblerouserShould note again, I'm a linux newbie, but really wish it well. :) Even if it confounds me sometimes05:56
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M4dN3ssI love penis so much05:58
M4dN3ssPenises are so nice05:58
M4dN3ssand soft05:58
M4dN3sswell05:58
M4dN3sssometimes hard05:58
FloodBot1M4dN3ss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:58
Doritorarely05:58
antonio_Looks like the ghost of Steve Jobs is here hating on Linux ;)05:58
RabblerouserD: Purge him05:59
dr_willisantonio_:  core dumps can be very haard to trouble shoot for beginners.. and even experienced  coders.05:59
DoritoM4dN3ss: omg me too05:59
Doritobut not really, only mine05:59
antonio_dr_willis: is there any kind of program I can run silently to find out what the hell is going on???06:00
antonio_or a term command to fix this crap?06:00
kittenmittenshow do i make ubuntu work06:00
dr_willisantonio_:   if you ahve a lot of apps core duming. it could be some memory issues.. or other very complex problems that are going to be hard to track down06:01
antonio_I'm so over ubuntu right now06:01
kittenmittenslol.. mine wont even start06:01
RabblerouserHow much of an overhead does Unity ahve?06:01
M4dN3sskittenmittens, your penis wont start?06:01
M4dN3ssthat's so weird06:01
M4dN3ssmy penis is always ready to go06:01
dr_willisI have very few issues with 12.10 on my systeems06:01
Dmnchild_Anyone familiar with setquota? having a hard time trying to limit a users allocated space to 100gb06:03
Doritoubuntu 13.0 will have always-on penis support M4dN3ss06:03
Ben64antonio_: try evince06:03
neodragonOK so I am updating my daughters edubuntu 12.04  laptop and the first thing I noticed was it kept hanging when it got to updating initramfs, no errors, it just hung there. I eventually just killed the updater and tried running 'sudo update-initramfs -vvv -u' in a terminal and it keeps hanging again once it gets to 'Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' I have found nothing online so06:04
kittenmittensi dont have a penis06:04
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kittenmittenswhen can i try 13.0?06:04
antonio_ben64: whats that?06:04
Ben64antonio_: pdf viewer06:04
Ben64!info evince06:05
ubottuevince (source: evince): Document (PostScript, PDF) viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.0-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 222 kB, installed size 1137 kB06:05
Ben64kittenmittens: 13.04 is in alpha, support and discussion in #ubuntu+106:06
antonio_ben64: no pdf viewers are working06:06
Ben64try it and pastebin the result?06:06
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antonio_ben64: no pdf viewers are working06:09
dr_willisantonio_:  a bigger question is - are other apps crashing the same way06:10
Ben64yeah i saw that last time you said it06:10
ubuntuuserantonio_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade-from-106:10
scary_onehey guys... Ubuntu noob here I have a Intel GMA 3150 video card, and I've tried to install XF86-Video-Intel and now my ubuntu boots into low-graphics mode heres my X.org log http://pastebin.com/uJtSmqaz06:10
ubuntuuserrebooting....06:10
dr_willisscary_one:  intel drivers re included.. wht did you install exctly? and from where?06:11
scary_onedr_willis xf86-video-intel - 2.20.12 from 01.org06:13
scary_oneand all the packages it requested06:13
dr_willis01.org ? who are they?06:13
scary_oneintel open source technology center06:14
scary_onehttps://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads06:14
gormanatorhey everyone....im kinda new to ubuntu, and trying to get multitouch to work...with limited success, can anyone here point me in the right direction?06:14
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gormanatorI can do two finger scrolling...I tried to install touchegg...but nothing happened06:15
dr_willisscary_one:  you really need to be seeing their forum and support site - since its not  stuff from the ubuntu repositories06:15
gormanatorI was just wondering if anyone here had any experience with getting multitouch to work06:15
gormanatorand if they would help me out...if not no worries06:15
scary_onedr_willis tried to get help from them :) they directed my here :D06:16
dr_willisscary_one:  that would be a good sign to not use their stuff...06:16
dr_willismost people use the xswat ppa's for updateing X stuff.06:16
dr_willisive never heard of anyone in here mention 01.org06:16
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scary_oneits intel linux site06:17
kunjidr_willis: Isn't all the stuff on their site already in Ubuntu?  Why repackage it.. weird.06:18
dr_willisxswat has newer updates not in the official repos06:19
dr_willisno idea what 01.org is doing ;)06:19
dr_willisunless its where the xswat guys get the updated patches and code from06:19
neodragonOK so I am updating my daughters edubuntu 12.04  laptop and the first thing I noticed was it kept hanging when it got to updating initramfs, no errors, it just hung there. I eventually just killed the updater and tried running 'sudo update-initramfs -vvv -u' in a terminal and it keeps hanging again once it gets to 'Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' I have found nothing online so06:19
kunjiscary_one: I think when they referred you here they meant for you to use the versions in the Ubuntu repos, my best guess is that they package it like that for people that are using distros without their own facilities.06:20
scary_oneany ideas how to fix it?06:23
juliano_join//06:23
Ben64scary_one: undo whatever you did06:23
RabblerouserWhat is "mint" btw?06:24
Ben64!mint | Rabblerouser06:24
ubottuRabblerouser: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org06:24
Ben64Rabblerouser: ok thats not really descriptive. its based on ubuntu but uses a different DE and other stuff06:24
RabblerouserDomo arigato, Mr. ubottu06:24
scary_onei think it will be easier and quikcer to reinstall06:24
Ben64scary_one: could be06:24
scary_one:)06:24
kunjiscary_one: Could be if you just installed.  Maybe just removing the package an installing from the Ubuntu repos would work.06:25
kunji*and06:25
neodragoncan anyone help me with a initramfs update that just hangs, no errors, nothing, it just hangs and never completes and now after I killed that process it won't let me use synaptic or apt-get either, it says another process is running06:27
kunjiThat 01.org logo looks a lot like the nepomuk one.  They seem legit except that the intel logo is nowhere to be found, there is a copyright notice at the bottom of the page.  Maybe their lack of branding is supposed to make them seem more open source friendly... or to distance the rest of the company from it, who knows...06:29
kittenmittensis it possible that ubuntu 13.04 will run better on my pc than 12.10, im aving alot of issues with 12.1006:30
xrsyour welcome to try out the latest builds and proposed updates06:36
vvoidI went through a crypto nightmare, but I could restore my data thanks to all of your good work. Thanks. Btw: never let your ecryptfs mounts run out of space06:37
xrsor try out an older version that is still supported06:37
xrsthanks vvoid06:37
vvoidI used to be more one of the rtfm guys, but there are times when one is in need of good community work06:38
neodragonok so even though I see multiple posts online about ubuntu 12.04 hanging in the middle of updating initramfs, no one in here either has any idea about how to fix it or cares to help is that it?06:40
TheLordOfTimeneodragon, or nobody's around who can help.06:42
UbubeginW: Failed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found .... Which repository shld i change to now ?06:42
TheLordOfTimeneodragon, at least in here, that could be the case.06:42
TheLordOfTimeneodragon, hangs are hard to debug - so if there's "no solution" you need patience06:43
TheLordOfTime!10.10 | Ububegin06:43
ubottuUbubegin: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.06:43
TheLordOfTimeUbubegin, solution is to upgrade to a supported release (at least 11.10)06:43
TheLordOfTime(although i suggest 12.04 since 11.10 EOLs in april)06:43
UbubeginTheLordOfTime: This is a legacy machine... Isnt there any archives to still cont'd apt-get -ing06:44
TheLordOfTimeUbubegin, not with 10.10.06:45
TheLordOfTime!eol | Ububegin06:45
ubottuUbubegin: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:45
xrsneodragon,  have you tried turning on verbose=yes in /etc/default/rcS and logging the startup?06:45
TheLordOfTimeUbubegin, you can try using old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead in your apt repos/mirrors06:45
TheLordOfTimebut those aren't supported, keep that in mind06:46
TheLordOfTimesince 10.10's EOL it gets *no* security updates and *no* other updates06:46
neodragonxrs: its not the startup/boot that is the problem, it boots just fine, it is the updating of initramfs that hangs and it keeps hanging on '/lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' for some reason, but it gives no errors06:46
ludi need help on ARM image06:47
neodragonxrs: or rather it hangs when it gets to adding that module during the update06:48
scarishm06:48
scarischanged my default display manager to gdm06:48
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scary_onenow i'm stuck at ubuntu load screen06:49
scary_onethe dot's are channging colors buut nothing else happens06:50
ludi want to install ubuntu ARM image to an m960 android tablet06:50
xrsneodragon,  first thing i would try is removing that package, updateing, then put it back on06:55
xrsdriver*06:55
xrsaww i found an answer for him but he left07:00
kittenmittensi need answers07:01
xrsto what? im sorry all i see is your question about 13.0407:02
kittenmittensdont worry :) nobodys been able to help me all week07:02
xrsto that i say you are free to roll back to an older version of ubuntu, or try out the latest builds and proposed updates07:03
kittenmittensive tryed 12.04 12.10 and im about to try 13.0407:03
Ben64kittenmittens: give more info. just saying "i need help" or "it doesn't work" does not help07:04
red82xrs: you were just too slow for neodragon07:04
red82shame really07:04
kittenmittenswell i dont know whats wrong, after installing i update and everything breaks every time, its always differnt, ether my filesystem goes read only and nobody can fix that for a week, or like now it just wont boot07:06
xrslol i know who you are07:06
xrswhat filesystem are you using?07:06
kittenmittensits not my hardware, redownloaded ubuntu countless times, checked md5 every time, tryed cd and usb, and having the same issues on 2 comouters07:07
kittenmittensme? ive tryed both ext3 and 407:07
kittenmittensno difference07:07
xrshow long does the clean install take?07:08
kittenmittenslike 10 minutes?07:08
xrshmm07:08
xrsif it was a USB issue it would take a lot longer than that.07:08
kittenmittensall my hardware is fine07:08
kittenmittensive checked literally 50 billion times now, everyone keeps blaming my hardware or the iso07:09
xrswell i had similar problems and my problem was the thumbdrives. i had to buy new ones07:09
kittenmittensi tryed cd too07:09
kittenmittensand 2 thumb drives07:09
kittenmittensnothing is broke n07:09
xrsnext the problems i was having had to do with udisks. it didnt have proper support for ext207:09
keplerinstall it in a VM on the computer you're on now, if you do everything the same and it works, then it is hardware07:09
kittenmittensits not the hardware07:10
keplerwell millions of other people are using the same ISOs, so it isn't ubuntu07:10
keplerit may not be faulty hardware, it may just be unsupported hardware07:10
xrskittenmittens,  its a good idea.   when troubleshooting computers you gotta tinker and rule out all possibilities, find out what works (and i dont mean just hardware) and what doesnt07:10
kittenmittensmhmm.. my brand new computer that has a readout screen of every tiny issue that could possibly happen, on the motherboard hasnt found anything07:11
kittenmittensive doe checks and tests people ahve told me to do for days07:11
xrsso currently it is not booting, can you see anything on the screen?07:11
kittenmittensive ruled out hardware07:11
xrscan you watch the startup process?07:11
keplerwhat computer is it? do other operating systems work?07:11
kittenmittensit goes purple and we tryed a differnt kernal and it gets stuck at initializing ramdisks? or something07:12
kittenmittenswindows works flawlessly07:12
keplerdo you have a link to the hardware in it?07:12
kittenmittensits an 8core amd 3+ at 3.5 ghz, on an asus crosshair vformula z motherboard, with 16 gigs of ddr3 1866mhz ram at 10 - 10 - 10 -24 clocks, on 2 sticks. i have a 250 gb vortex 4 sata 3 ssd07:13
xrskittenmittens,  there is some good info here: http://blog.tridgell.net/?p=5707:13
kittenmittensand an msi 7950 -_-07:13
keplerok, in bios do you have the hd stuff set to ahci, ide passthrough, anything?07:14
kittenmittensill check07:14
kittenmittensthe post is so fast you gotta use a button on the motherboard to get to it.. its anoying07:15
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kepleruefi stuff can be weird too07:15
xrsyeah hardware ment for win8 boots way too fast07:16
kittenmittensum07:16
kittenmittensi dont know how to do that on my bios.. theres litterlally thousands of options07:16
kittenmittensoh i found it07:17
xrsim sure there was a manual printed07:17
kittenmittenson chip sata channel is enabled, and they are all set to ahci07:17
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kittenmittensand sata esp is disabled ona ll the ports, i dont know what that means07:17
xrsbookmark that page i gave ya so u can check it l8r07:17
JustinWyo07:18
kittenmittensi cant, i have no stable os atm07:18
xrsno persistence file?07:18
kittenmittensso can anyone help me?07:18
JustinWwhat is a good tool for automatic file replication between servers?07:18
JustinWubuntu linux.07:18
keplerwhat other options are there for the ahci?07:18
xrsyeah that page i gave you has some useful info07:18
kittenmittenside and raid07:19
keplerthrow it on ide and see how it goes07:19
kittenmittenswont that make it slower07:20
keplerno07:20
keplerit is still a 3 or 6g sata port, it just pretends it is ide07:20
kittenmittenslocked up on purple screen again07:20
xrsJustinW, http://sourceforge.net/projects/synchronicity/?source=directory07:20
keplerwhat do you see prior to that purple screen?07:21
xrskittenmittens,  do you have persistence?07:21
kittenmittensnothing07:21
kittenmittensi dont know what that is xrs07:21
keplerno post, grub, nothing?07:21
kittenmittensi can get grub if i spam shift like a maniake sometimes07:21
xrsare you running from a live USB, if you were to save a file to it would it still be there next time you booted? why cant you look at that page07:22
kittenmittensand i never see post07:22
Sarahey, I m using dualboot win 7 ubuntu 12.04. needed to reinstall win 7. used bootrepair recomended option and now my win is working but grub is not07:22
SaraI don't see any option to log in ubuntu07:22
keplerand you get through the entire install successfully, and it asks you to reboot, then does this?07:22
Ben64!grub | Sara07:22
ubottuSara: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)07:22
kittenmittensno, it works fine and lovingly07:23
Sarathanks ben07:23
kittenmittensuntill i update, or install graphics drivers, or sometimes randomly after a restart07:23
keplerok, so when you update, are you using the provided opensource drivers, or proprietary?07:24
Sarabut it is just saying to use boot repair07:24
SaraI already used bootrepair07:24
greekHi how do I check whether my system is 32 or 64 bit? Thanks.07:24
kittenmittenstryed both07:24
Saramy win is working07:24
keplergreek, uname -a07:24
greekkepler thanks07:24
keplerkittenmittens, then it is something else. try doing only software updates, without drivers. see if those work07:25
kittenmittenskelper is a space teliscoe that found alot of planets07:25
kepleris that machine on right now? if you hit ctrl+alt+f3, does it go to a console?07:25
kittenmittensok.. on 12.10 or 13.04?07:25
kittenmittensno its completly frozen07:26
keplernumlock doesn't go off and on if you hit it?07:26
kittenmittensno07:26
kittenmittensso want me to install 13.04 or 12.10?07:27
keplerwell, you're right, does't seem like hardware.07:27
Ben64why not 12.04?07:27
keplerid go with 12.1007:27
tahitipeteyHow would I get my *public* IPv6 address from within the terminal? (I'm ssh'd into an instance remotely, no GUI/browsers to visit sites like my-ip6.com). If it makes any difference, it's an Amazon EC2 instance.07:28
xrsthat page i linked describes your exact problem and how it was fixed. did you ever look at it?07:28
Ben64tahitipetey: ifconfig07:29
keplertahitipetey, netstat -ie07:29
genoobiehey all07:29
genoobiequestions about video here07:29
genoobieI have a crappy video card07:30
genoobiean lubuntu install that doesn't quite work and an xubuntu live that gives me video07:30
genoobiehere's the thing07:30
FloodBot1genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:30
kittenmittenswhats the oem installl do07:31
xrsits for OEMs who have their own configs and answer files07:31
genoobieI was hoping to use the video information from the live CD to somehow help lubuntu get started.  When I boot lubuntu, the splash screen is OK, but the screen for lightdm looks goofed.  When I go the the xubuntu livecd, there's obviously no dm07:32
JustinWis this IRC for ubuntu server (ubuntu linux on servers)?07:32
JustinWor mainly the os lol07:32
Ben64ubuntu support07:32
xrs#ubuntu-server07:32
genoobieso the wm/de screen is just fine.  any tips on how to get the lubuntu jumpstarted?  I was going to try and bypass the dm, with an ~/.xinitrc07:33
genoobiebut I don't have rw access to the drive or the permissions are funny...07:33
tahitipeteyBen64 & kepler: Ah, right, since IPv6 addresses are global, what's on ifconfig would be the global address! Jeez, why didn't I realize that earlier, hah.07:33
genoobieany suggestions?07:33
Ben64tahitipetey: not exactly, but since its a server there isn't going to be an internal address/nat stuff going on07:34
Ben64genoobie: when you're installing it should ask you about logging in automatically07:34
p4#jogja07:34
tahitipeteyBen64: EC2 servers *are* behind NAT. It's IPv4 address on ifconfig is not the global address.07:34
genoobieben64, no, sadly it didn't07:34
keplerthe ipv6 should be global07:34
Ben64tahitipetey: really? weird07:34
keplerunless you have an fe80:: or something07:34
genoobiemy guess is that will fix the problem07:35
genoobiebut I'm not sure how to make that happen07:35
tahitipeteykepler: Ouch... I do. Or rather, the server does have a fe80::... address :(07:35
Ben64genoobie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=147211307:35
keplerthat is link local then07:35
kepleris it fe80:<mac address>:<other stuff> ?07:36
genoobieBen64, I'll try that, thanks!07:36
anan_Hi, just reconnected to screen and prompt changed to 'user@host:(unreachable)/$' - pwd doesn't return home eitheir, or anything for that matter07:37
SaraI faild to repair my grub2 need help07:37
Ben64tahitipetey: you could use a website that tells you your public address then07:37
genoobieBen64, does it use lxdm or lightdm07:37
Ben64genoobie: might be lightdm, not sure07:37
genoobieeff, I'll edit every dm file07:38
Saragrub rescue is usefull before using bootrepair. I already have my win I07:38
p4hi07:38
p4i need help07:38
Sarareinstalled windows 7 and repaired using recommended option now win works but I cannot log in ubuntu anymore07:39
Saracan somone walk with me through it?07:39
Ben64Sara: what didn't work when you tried to fix grub07:39
xrs!boot-repair07:39
kittenmittensyeah windows bootloader messes up ubuntus and looads before it07:39
SaraI cannot see the page that says file not found > rescure grub07:40
kittenmittensthats why you always install llinux after windows, unless you wanna be mucking around07:40
xrssara, you will need to boot the computer using a live CD or DVD07:40
kittenmittensor usb07:41
SaraIm in live cd07:41
Saralive usb actually07:41
xrsyou have boot-repair installed?07:41
Ben64https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair07:41
Ben64start at 2nd option07:41
seeqwellgrub-rescue-pc - GRUB bootable rescue images, version 2 (PC/BIOS version) Sara07:41
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Sarathat would be great if we could repair it just with ubuntu live usb not by makeing another bootable usb07:42
Ben64you can07:43
SaraBen64 can you tell me how07:43
Sara?07:43
Ben64i just pasted the link07:43
tripelbRe if I receivers/adaptors. Here's the list from MonoPrice http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10501 --doew anyone know if any of these is k own to work with Ubuntu?   Not a long list, 3 cards, one g and 3 n. And 2 more N's at double speed 300 Mps07:43
kittenmittensim updating, so we will see..07:43
keplerskipping drivers?07:44
Ben64tripelb: read the comments on them07:44
kittenmittensyeah07:44
keplertahitipetey, http://mellowd.co.uk/ccie/?p=1363 has some info on the ipv6 ranges if you're interested.07:44
SaraI saw the link its using different methods to repair grub i don't know which is mine07:44
tahitipeteykepler: Thanks! I'll read through that :)07:44
kittenmittenswhats is ipv6 for?07:44
kittenmittensTHINGS ONLY USE IPV6?07:45
keplerincrease IP address space07:45
Ben64Sara: i said start at 2nd option07:45
keplerright now we're on ipv407:45
kittenmittenscaps*07:45
keplerwhich was actually an experiment that just got out of hand07:45
kittenmittenswhy do we need more space07:45
keplerwe're out of ipv4 addresses, actually07:45
kittenmittensreally?07:45
xrsits like running out of telephone numbers and having to add extra digits07:45
keplerwell, they have all been assigned. i think due to poor planning, we only actually use like 15% of them07:45
kittenmittensbut not everything accepts ipv6 adresses07:46
Ben64pretty much everything does now, but this is offtopic07:46
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kepleri think everything does now07:46
kittenmittensare we talking about isp provided adresses? /exchange07:46
kepleryes07:46
kittenmittenshm07:46
tahitipeteykittenmittens: All ISP's are IPv6 complaint. Since June a few years back...07:46
keplerif you want to knwo more, we can go to off topic, or you can PM me, Ben64 is right, this isn't the place for that talk07:47
kittenmittensive never really nudged into external ip's07:47
tahitipeteyOh, I shouldn't say "All". Certainly the North American/European ones. Can't vouch for some backwater ISP in some developing nation...07:47
kittenmittenslearning is fun :) thank god for the collective human knowledge being at my fingertips07:48
anan_Hi, anyone know why terminal prompt says 'user@host:(unreachable)/$' after reconnecting with a detached screen?07:48
Sarais it possible to write grub commands without logging off ubuntu?07:49
Ben64anan_: do you have encryption on the drive or the home directory?07:49
Saraterminal does not accept it07:49
Ben64Sara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair07:49
genoobieUgh, Ben64 that didn't work...07:50
anan_Ben64: I don't think so, it might be nothing as it only occured after calling on screen using it's pid07:50
genoobieit must be the mode of the monitor07:50
genoobieany way to change that from cli?07:50
anan_Ben64: only pwd doesn't return anything anymore :P07:51
genoobiethe splash screens look great07:52
Saramy grub location and grub options are gray (not available)07:52
genoobiethe only thing that I can think is that the installer was a text installer07:52
thechefIs nvidia-current-updates in 12.04 not pointing to 310, because 1) it never will in 12.04, 2) nvidia doesn't declare 310 as stable-enough for LTS systems 3) still in testing 4) because 304 is still supported and for >304 version to appear in LTS 304 must first come to EOL 5) other?07:53
kittenmittensthechef, is this who wants to be a millionair?07:55
wooexit07:55
woosry* :p07:55
woolaters07:55
kittenmittenscompiz crashed while its installing the updates07:55
thechefkittenmittens: almost - but if you win doesn't depend on if you're correct - If I don't like the answer you're out :-)07:56
kittenmittens:o07:56
alumno19Hola07:57
xrs** (gnome-font-viewer:14048): WARNING **: Install failed: can't find any configured user font directory.07:58
xrswhat file do i need to edit to fix that?07:58
alumno19vamos locoooo07:58
kittenmittensok it updated ok07:58
xrs!sp07:58
kittenmittenscompiz keeps crashing though07:59
alumno20alumno 19 me suena yu nombre07:59
linociscois there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?07:59
alumno19y a mi el tuyo locooo07:59
kittenmittenskepler?07:59
keplerkittenmittens, can you disable it?07:59
keplerdid it say why it was crashing?07:59
kittenmittensyeah08:00
Ben64kittenmittens: sounds like you have a .... hardware problem08:00
kittenmittensbecause its doing software rendering reather than hardware rendering08:00
juniourhi guys how to format write procted usb drives or sd card08:00
juniourplz help08:00
kittenmittensthats what it says08:00
keplergo into settings and change it from xrandr or whatever to the other option08:00
Ben64kittenmittens: then start up in Ubuntu 2D08:00
aeon-ltdjuniour: if there's a hardware tab switch it to writable first...08:00
xrsalumno20,  try #ubuntu-es08:00
linociscois there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?08:01
kittenmittensmmh08:01
kittenmittenswhat are the best amd drivers08:01
juniouraeon-ltd explain plz08:01
juniourwt hard ware tab its sd card08:01
helmut_hi08:01
aeon-ltdjuniour: sometimes they have a tab that switches it from writable to read only08:02
xrssome SD cards have a lock. an actual lock you can slide08:02
xrslike the old floppy disks08:02
juniourno nothing like that08:02
Ben64almost every sd card has one08:02
juniourit a micro sd card of 2gb08:02
keplerkittenmittens, try sudo apt-get install fglrx08:02
keplerthat is what i use for my workstation08:02
juniourit write procted08:02
juniourhow will i remove08:03
linociscois there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?08:03
juniouror formate the sd card08:03
Ben64!repeat | linocisco08:03
ubottulinocisco: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:03
bassohello, my laptop has 20gb of ram, how can i make the system use more for my benefit?08:03
juniouraeon-ltd any idea08:03
bassoi have disabled swap08:03
juniourbasso use 64 bit machine08:03
keplerbasso, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/08:03
aeon-ltdbasso: swappiness=008:03
Ben64juniour: really you should check the card for a switch. especially if you have it in an adapter08:04
aeon-ltd!swappiness08:04
kittenmittensit says invalid operation fglrx08:04
aeon-ltdbasso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F08:04
xrsbasso,  check out tip #10 http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html08:05
keplersudo apt-get install fglrx ??08:05
keplerdid you get install in there08:05
xrshe has no swap. changing the swappiness isnt going to do anything08:05
kittenmittensah that worked08:05
juniourhee thanks all i got it :)08:05
xrsinstead i directed him to move the /tmp dir to RAM08:06
bassoaeon-ltd: but I don't have a swap partion on my computer08:06
juniourbasso use 64 bit operating system08:06
aeon-ltdi've no experience with them, but would a ramdisk be worth the effort08:06
aeon-ltd?08:06
xrsyes08:06
linociscook08:06
bassojuniour: i am using a 64bit operatingsystem :)08:06
bassothinkpad master race08:06
Ben64i have /tmp on ram, and i only have 8GB08:06
Saraben64  what does it mean:   root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/sda4/ mnt mount: mount point mnt does not exist08:06
Ben64Sara: what are you doing?!08:06
kingbeastlinocisco: pm!!08:06
aeon-ltdSara: that's not the right syntax08:07
Ben64Sara: i've given you this link 4 times now, this is much easier than anything you're trying to do. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair08:07
juniourbasso then you will be able to use most of the ram, except some of it will be restricted for hardware08:07
SaraI installed win 7 and i used recommended option in bootrepair win came back not ubuntu08:07
Sarathe rest is according http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZRjjPjic808:08
juniourSara fix mbr08:08
xrssara seriously. what are you doing. Ben64  gave you very simple way to fix it08:08
Hanmac_i hope someone could help me i have a crititcal vhost problem ... i try to access vhost1 with addr "xyz.local" but for some reason it trys to redirect me to "abc.local" with was an old vhost ... and i dont know how to deactivate this ... ("abc.local" is removed from all etc/hosts files ... )08:09
SaraOk i didnot understand that . he gave me boot repair link08:09
bassothere, i have moved /tmp to ram08:09
Saraand grub location and grub options are gray08:09
Ben64basso: you could also move firefox cache to /tmp08:09
keplerHanmac_, try " sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart "08:09
xrssara copy and paste this into the terminal window: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair08:10
kittenmittensok that instaled and im rebooting now08:10
Saraalready have boot repair installed on usb08:10
keplerHanmac_, if that doesn't work " sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start "08:10
keplerkittenmittens, good luck08:10
Saratell me the rest please08:10
xrsopen it08:11
Saraits open08:11
kittenmittensya, this is what happened last time, i have no desktop now, no unity or anything just a blank desktop08:11
linociscoI want network monitoring tool like PRTG but should be free of charge08:11
adamshumpisxxxAnyone online who's knowledgeable with MATE?08:12
Saraxrs whats next please08:12
kittenmittensi can right click and changed desktop background adn get back to settingd from there..08:12
Ben64adamshumpisxxx: we don't support mate here08:12
xrsim installing boot repair so i can walk you through it. be warned my system is probably the slowest in this room08:12
adamshumpisxxxWell, it's MATE on Ubuntu 12.10 Netboot. Does that make a difference?08:12
genoobieokay Ben6408:12
Ben64adamshumpisxxx: nope, sorry08:13
genoobieso I changed those lines in lightdm.conf08:13
genoobieno change08:13
keplerkittenmittens, hit atl+f2 and amdcccle08:13
kepleror if you can open a terminale08:13
genoobiethis sucks.08:13
Hanmac_kepler the first one does not exist on my system, the second one does, but it seems that it does not have any afffect ... moment i restart firefox08:13
adamshumpisxxxWould anyone be able to point me to an IRC server / channel that will help me?08:13
keplersudo amdcccle08:13
kittenmittens?08:13
genoobieI'm downloading the lubuntu desktop install08:13
kittenmittensctrl alt t?08:13
genoobiemaybe that will fix the problem08:13
Saraxrs- you there?08:14
keplerHanmac_, not sure then. you're using the dns name and not the IP?08:14
linociscoI want network monitoring tool like PRTG but should be free of charge and full version08:14
xrssara: im installing boot repair so i can walk you through it. be warned my system is probably the slowest in this room08:14
keplerkittenmittens, whatever opens it. im on kubuntu, so i dont know the gnome/unity shortcuts08:14
Saraok thanks xrs08:14
kittenmittensa whole bunch of error:bad request messages in therminal08:15
shortstraw8_Sara,  What steps did you do?08:15
kittenmittensthen the amd catalyst ppopped up08:15
Sarajust installed bootrepair08:15
Saranow waiting for the rest08:15
keplerdo you have multiple monitors?08:15
aeon-ltdadamshumpisxxx mate is default on mint right?08:15
Ben64Sara: click "recommended repair"08:15
aeon-ltdadamshumpisxxx: ask there, but don't mention you're running ubuntu08:16
adamshumpisxxxI'm not sure. I don't run Mint or have ever been interested in it.08:16
adamshumpisxxxAh, OK. Thanks. Would you be able to link me?08:16
shortstraw8_Sara,  If you follow the rest of the steps on the ubuntu help it works fine.08:16
aeon-ltd##mint08:16
aeon-ltdwait thats wrong08:16
SaraI have done that it recovered my win 7. you sure i need to use that again?08:16
kittenmittenswhat do i do now08:16
keplerkittenmittens, do you have multiple monitors?08:16
adamshumpisxxxThanks aeon-ltd.08:17
aeon-ltdadamshumpisxxx: #linuxmint08:17
SaraI really don't like to remove my win again08:17
adamshumpisxxxThanks...leaving now to ask.08:17
xrsyou re-installed widows? are you sure win7 didnt erase your ubuntu?08:18
kittenmittensno it thought i had no monitors so i changed that now im rebooting08:18
keplerthat's weird08:18
SaraI recovered mbr but not grub now I cannot install grub08:18
kittenmittensnope.. blank again08:19
Ben64Sara: Click "Recommended Repair" and do whatever it says08:19
keplercan you right click like last time?08:19
Super_Doghey peeps.  just had a running out of disk space error.  couldn't figure out.  unmounted big server mount in fstab and all is well now.  could it be there are so many file on the mount that it is indexing them or something on my local disk....?08:19
kittenmittensya]\08:19
keplerpop open that amdcccle again08:19
Ben64kittenmittens: do you like unity?08:19
kittenmittensya08:20
xrsyour hardware may be good, but are you sure its compatible?08:20
keplerim not sure what it is doing, but unity doesn't like it.08:20
Ben64kittenmittens: because you could use Unity 2D in 12.0408:20
kittenmittensmmh08:20
Ben6412.10 got rid of the 2D version08:20
bencccan I install debian packages on ubuntu? which debian version to use for which ubuntu version?08:21
Super_DogVmware gave me a warning about trying to upgrade 12.04 to the 12.10 in my VM...08:21
kittenmittensit ndid my settings08:21
kittenmittensit wont save my option to have a monitor..08:21
keplerdid you do sudo amdcccle ?08:22
Super_Dog*.deb files - double click and let software center or gdebi install...08:22
xrsubuntu is debian, just tweaked. you can install .deb files with ubuntu software center08:22
Aladeenhello08:22
kepleri do sudo -i, too used to being root. forget to sudo all the time08:22
Ben64xrs, bencc: that is very much not recommended08:22
xrsk. i've personally never had a problem EVER08:23
benccBen64:  here it says that I can use the debian selinux packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux08:23
xrsbut thats just me08:23
kittenmittensnow what08:23
Ben64its not good to packages for different distros08:23
keplerhit display manager08:23
xrsaww then whats alien for?  :P08:23
keplerwhat is your resolution and desktop area?08:23
kittenmittenssudo amdcccle again?08:23
kepleryeah08:23
keplerit should be in there08:23
kittenmittens1920 108008:23
Super_DogAnybody here using their ubuntu in VMware 9.X?08:24
keplerif you put your mouse on the left side to pull up the unity bar or whatever, does it just not show up?08:24
kittenmittensno08:25
kittenmittensit wont save my settings08:25
kittenmittensgetting lots of errors in the terminal from amdcccle08:25
keplercan you use paste.ubuntu.com and throw some in there?08:26
Aladeensomeone have information about AladeeNUX ?08:27
kittenmittenspastebin.com/u3UBC6JV08:28
kunjikittenmittens: I have no idea if it is related or not, but isn't amdccle graphical, so you should be using gksudo not sudo.08:28
xrsi havent gotten amd drivers working since 12.1008:29
kepleri dont think those are critical. just x whining08:29
keplerkittenmittens, on 12.10, right?08:30
kittenmittensye)ah08:30
kittenmittensno errors this time08:30
keplerwhat is the output of fglrxinfo ?08:30
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chamodatest08:31
keplerpassed08:31
kittenmittenspastebin.com/s01pfVyn <this is what happened after i saved my settings though08:31
keplerwell at least it was a little considerate: [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.08:32
kunjikepler: just curious, what's the expected output for that on a good system (i.e. things working normally)?  I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589050/08:32
keplerthat looks like mine08:32
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kepleri imagine if it doesn't work, it won't have display info/driver info there08:33
kittenmittenspastebin.com/bprTsBjN08:33
kittenmittensbrb dinner08:33
keplerlike that ^^08:33
kunjikepler: Hmm, well, I guess that's good then, I think my system is working fine.08:34
litropySo, I have a spare box. It's not great - it's got a 1.2 gHz processor. I already have a server. Already have a gaming comp (wouldn't be good for it anyway). I'm looking for ideas as to what to do with it.08:34
kunjilitropy: super powered router?08:34
keplerhaha, i think mine is too. hasn't done anything i didn't want it to yet.08:34
keplerlitropy, www.pfsense.org08:34
xrs^^08:35
xrswhatever happened to smoothwall?08:35
kunjikepler: Mine does seem a little slow, but I am running 3 monitors on an A10.. so I think that would be expected.08:35
xrssorry rong room08:35
litropykunji, what would it run? you're talking about using the wifi card? What advantages would it provide over my DIR-655?08:35
kunjilitropy: No idea, I'm not familiar with a DIR-655 :P08:36
litropykunji, it's jsut a nice home router https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dlink.com%2Fproducts%2F%3Fpid%3D530&ei=hdsIUezYLubl0gHZxYG4Aw&usg=AFQjCNGBp5FopgPMO8an6BOHVAVEVEN51A&sig2=dKpqwMoIeemRW-2Qc201QA&bvm=bv.41642243,d.dmQ08:36
litropywhoops08:36
litropyhttp://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dir-655-wireless-n-gigabit-router08:36
litropykepler, seems like you have the same idea as kunji08:37
xrsyou would get better control over the firewall and its policies, and reduce network traffix by using it as a proxy08:37
xrsyou could also turn that box into a snort based intrusion detection system08:37
keplerlitropy, i picked up http://goo.gl/DXJnB and run pfsense on it, disabled dhcp on my wireless router to make it an AP08:38
kunjilitropy: Yeah, he was linking one way to do it.  Hmm, your own VPN would be one extra at least.08:38
xrsif you have a lot of computers, you could turn it into a proxy /  update server08:38
keplerlitropy, advantage = more fun/learn?08:38
kepleri do have ipsec setup, so i vpn in from my phone and have full access to my network08:38
kunjikepler: That looks like a nice little system, yeah, it's nice being able to access my UPnP server from anywhere ^_^08:39
keplersmall, quiet, and more than enough to serve me internet for the next 10 years or whatever08:40
litropyxrs, there's nothing wrond with running pfsense alongside snort on the same box, right?08:40
kunjiUnfortunately I don't have the bandwidth up to stream my 1080p video though.08:40
keplerunless google fiber comes to me and they go over 1gbps, that'll hold me over08:40
zayantayhey guys08:40
kunjilitropy: Yeah, that's fine08:40
keplerlitropy, you can install snort as a package in pfsense08:40
zayantayhelloo?08:41
xrsi've never done it but it would be better to have them seperated. checks and balences n whatnot08:41
hillary_I install eclipse via ubuntu software center but when i start i get " An error has occurred. See the log file08:41
hillary_/usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/1359535247587.log."08:41
litropysweet, kepler08:41
zayantayany body here08:41
kunji!ask | zayantay08:41
ubottuzayantay: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience08:41
hillary_i had purge the eclipse juno i install by hand08:41
hillary_could it be there are some remains?08:41
zayantaywhere can i find help for penetration testing. please tell me a channel or ?08:42
kunjiHmm, not sure if that's exactly what I wanted the bot to say... I keep forgetting the calls, was there a more appropriate one?08:42
hillary_how can i get rid of them?08:42
xrs#backtrack08:42
xrs@ zayantay08:42
zayantaythanks but is there a channel for backbox ?08:42
xrstheres like 15 security rooms in freenode08:42
Hanmac_kepler i found the cupit ... its the VM (the server) when the VM is down, FF says cant find "xyz.local" but when the VM is up, it says cant find "abc.local" ... i removed everything from the hosts, the vhost is disabled too, i tryed all methods for dns-cleaning but it does still happening :(08:43
zayantayok thanks ill check that out :)08:43
kunjizayantay: Probably... but you want to do pentesting when you can't even find that yourself?  .... script kiddies....08:43
xrsknowledge is power...08:43
zayantaysry man08:43
xrsjust so long as ur pen testing your own equipment08:43
zayantayim new to linux08:44
zayantayin a way08:44
zayantayi tried mint for a while though08:44
xrsim new to linux n ive been using it since the 90s  :P08:44
zayantaycool08:44
keplerHanmac_, i think im not understanding the whole problem. you have a vm host that has two VMs on it that only are accessible while the other is down?08:44
kunjixrs: That's why I don't like pointing people places for pen testing... it's usually not their own equipment, 9 times out of 10 it's someone looking to break wireless passwords to get free wifi -_-08:45
hillary_ubuntu 12.0408:45
Hanmac_kepler its one VM with two vhosts ... (now only one active vhost) ... and i act access this vhost because it try to redirect to an non-existing vhost08:46
kurisutianHi there! Can anyone help me getting convirt to work? I wanted to set up a web managed kvm server but somehow convirt won't work. Packages are installed but after that it refuses to work....08:46
keplerHamled, i'm not sure :/ sorry08:47
litropyxrs, kunji, zayantay, Ya. And in that case, it's worth mentioning that doing so is a felony in the US.08:47
litropyUS at least ...08:47
xrsYeah just ask Aaron Swartz08:48
litropyNot to be *that guy*08:48
kittenmittensback08:48
hillary_any help?08:48
keplerkittenmittens, that last paste shows that the driver isn't working for whatever reason08:49
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kittenmittensso what should i do08:49
genoobiepaly08:49
genoobieokay08:49
keplerkittenmittens, do " sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx " to get rid of the driver08:49
kunjilitropy: indeed08:49
keplerhopefully it boots up like it did08:49
genoobie I mean I am done with *nix on  this older machine08:49
apishI know that I use "rsync -avz -e ssh /home/ramesh/ ramesh@192.168.200.10:/backup/ramesh/" in order to sync local folder to remote folder.. but what if i want to sync remote folder to local?08:49
genoobiexp runs fine08:49
genoobiedone08:49
genoobienite all08:50
FloodBot1genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:50
kittenmittensook :) rebooting08:50
litropyapish, ssh to the remote and then rsync?08:51
keplerkittenmittens, after you boot back up, get a terminal again and try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx08:52
xrswell that explains why my video never worked after 12.10... i hate amd08:54
keplerim an intel/nvidia guy myself, but have to use work provided hardware at work, with intel/ati08:55
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xrswow boot-repair is still installing.... using this computer is like running a dumb terminal over 56k08:57
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kittenmittenshm..09:00
keplerany luck?09:02
kittenmittensum.. i got an error, let me just quickly do the dishes09:06
nastro82_86C4Ciau :D09:06
cfhowlettkittenmittens, sudo apt-clean dishes -f09:07
gnomefreakdishes?09:08
keplerreminds me of: http://xkcd.com/149/09:08
xrslmao09:09
cfhowlettkepler, that was my first exposure to linux command around the time I first tried ubuntu...09:09
gnomefreaklol i like that09:09
fedoris there in ubuntu12 utility for taking photos via webcam?09:10
cfhowlettfedor, cheese and guvcview09:10
fedorthanx09:10
cfhowlettno problem09:10
kittenmittensback09:20
kittenmittenspastebin.com/sXcAPj3509:21
bobweaverUnknown Paste ID!09:23
kittenmittenspastebin.com/sXcAPj3S09:23
kittenmittensmy bad09:23
kittenmittensgoogling it only found me someone elses paistbin with the same thing lol09:25
kittenmittensits like im doomed to never have ubuntu09:26
kittenmittenswhys it so quiet now09:28
spider_hello09:28
kittenmittenshello09:28
spider_whats up bro my name is spider09:29
kittenmittensim no bro >_>09:29
kittenmittensmy name is bianca09:30
kittenmittenshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fP4emqw7O409:30
kittenmittens#ubuntuofftopic09:31
kittenmittensany ubuntu nerds here who are formiliar with ati graphics09:33
litropyI wish. What are you trying to do again?09:33
arunkumar413what happens to the hard link file if the original file is moved to a different location09:33
kittenmittensinstall graphics drivers09:33
keplersorry, was off doing work (dozed off)09:34
litropykittenmittens, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:34
kittenmittensJEEEEZ09:34
kittenmittenspastebin.com/sXcAPj3S09:34
litropy.run? Never seen that before.09:35
litropykittenmittens, check out my link09:35
keplerit is just a script to do the installs09:35
kittenmittensthats what the website says to do, ill try yours09:36
keplerlooks like that one is the same as the fglrx we tried before, but adding using sudo amdconfig --initial09:36
keplerwhich may be what fixes it09:36
keplerwe have a weird setup out here, so i did my own xorg.conf09:36
fefrerfHi09:37
keplerthe second part is what you were just doing, with the .run09:37
Super_DogDoes mounting large external servers with lots of files take up resources locally on Ubuntu desktop?  I notice larger disk usage on my main Ubuntu drive when I fstab mount my network drives...09:39
jnhghyHi, I have some issues with document viewer and pdf printing: when I view some pdf they look ok but in printing and in print preview the colors are inverted. any help is appriciated09:39
fefrerfHi09:40
fefrerfAnyone have ubuntu for androids?09:40
Super_DogThere's supposed to be an Ubuntu phone coming out.  Might have to get one of those..09:41
brontosaurusrexwhat would i use from cli for rtf to utf8 txt conversion?09:41
amomabrontosaurusrex, $ pyton09:42
somsip!info iconv | brontosaurusrex09:42
ubottubrontosaurusrex: Package iconv does not exist in quantal09:42
somsipbrontosaurusrex: man iconv and see if it helps09:42
brontosaurusrexisnt iconv only for charset conversions?09:43
kittenmittensafter all that do i continue to step 3 or am i done then?09:43
llutzbrontosaurusrex: "iconv - Convert encoding of given files from one encoding to another"09:43
kittenmittensnevermind -_-09:44
kittenmittenssame issue, no unity or anything09:44
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fefrerfhello09:46
NetFlamBorgHi fefrerf09:46
fefrerf:-)09:46
NegressCountyI wish I could shit into somebody's mouth09:47
fefrerfWhat is SliTaz?09:51
NetFlamBorgSliTaz GNU/Linux is a Micro-Linux Distribution created by Christophe Lincoln and is now maintained by several contributors.09:51
bilelHi, a cron sent me mails because a cron task failed, but now each time I connect with ssh, I got a message saying "you have new mails" , and then I do "cat /var/mail/username" and I can see it's the same old mail, how can I flag it as read?09:51
llutzbilel: "mail" "1" "d"09:52
somsipbilel: run 'mail'09:52
fefrerfThx NetFlamBorg09:52
NetFlamBorgfefrerf Convert encoding of given files from one09:52
fefrerfI like my Wifi!09:53
fefrerfMy wifi is very goooood!09:54
fefrerfwifi?09:54
AppleJuiceYeah, do you have a wifi? I have two.09:55
fefrerf:-)09:55
NetFlamBorgFor help with Wifi, please read: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-easy first. If that doesn't work then read: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-hard09:55
keplerkittenmittens, i think that card just isn't well supported by their driver :/09:56
kittenmittens:(09:56
kittenmittensso no linux?09:57
kepler:/09:57
fefrerfNetFlamBorg thx! But its a joke!09:57
NetFlamBorgGoooood!09:57
bilelsomsip: each time I run "mail" it tells me I have new message09:58
keplerkittenmittens, try step 3 -- installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website ?09:59
kittenmittensill do that next09:59
bilelanyway I'll try to google linux mail in order to see how I should read them properly instead of "cat /var/mail/username"09:59
fefrerfNetFlamBorg who are you?09:59
NetFlamBorgMight have to get one of those09:59
NetFlamBorgAndroids?09:59
llutzbilel: "mail" "1" "d"09:59
somsipbilel: read tge message, and delete it. Like llutz said09:59
fefrerfNetFlamBorg are you a weirdo?10:00
NetFlamBorgSliTaz?10:00
keplerbilel, sudo apt-get install alpine10:00
fefrerfwtf?10:00
llutzkepler: there is no need to install additional software if "mail" command is present just to remove a system-mail10:01
fefrerfNetFlamBorg wtf!10:01
NetFlamBorgGoooood!10:01
keplerbut but but pine :(10:01
fefrerfNetFlamBorg fuck off!10:01
somsip!language | fefrerf10:02
ubottufefrerf: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.10:02
fefrerfok ok10:02
bilelllutz: ok it seems I can delete them one by one with your commands, but is it possible to clear everything? there are some old unread mails too10:02
NetFlamBorgHelp is appriciated10:02
llutzbilel: "d :o"10:03
fefrerfi like trains10:03
NetFlamBorgKittenmittens, I think that card just isn't well supported by their driver :/10:04
somsip!ot | fefrerf10:04
ubottufefrerf: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:04
kittenmittenswould aa driver fromt his site be better? http://phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?43-Open-Source-AMD-Linux10:04
fefrerfok ok10:04
bilelllutz: thanks it worked!10:04
NetFlamBorgWifi!10:04
keplerkittenmittens, i would use the amd sanctioned one10:04
fefrerfNetFlamBorg you are really helpful :-)10:05
kittenmittenswhat do you mean?10:05
NetFlamBorgWho are you a weirdo?10:05
keplerdownload it from AMD's site10:05
fefrerfyou are a weirdo netflamborg10:06
NetFlamBorgWho are you a weirdo?10:06
daniel_muma10:06
fefrerfstop netflamborg10:06
NetFlamBorgfefrerf: mail 1 d10:06
fefrerfNetFlamborg, send me mail to testborg@gmail.com!10:07
llutz!ot | fefrerf NetFlamBorg stop your nonsense here please10:07
NetFlamBorgEncoding to another10:07
ubottufefrerf NetFlamBorg stop your nonsense here please: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!10:07
NetFlamBorgThere is no need to install additional software if mail command10:07
jnhghyHi, I have some issues with document viewer and pdf printing: when I view some pdf they look ok but in printing and in print preview the colors are inverted. any help is appriciated10:08
NetFlamBorgWho are you a weirdo jnhghy10:08
jnhghyhow*10:08
MonkeyDustNetFlamBorg  is a bot10:10
NetFlamBorgHelp is appriciated10:10
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fefrerfMonkeyDust? NetFlamBorg is a bot?10:11
NetFlamBorgHelp is appriciated10:11
llutz!ops | NetFlamBorg sort of bot, spam, junk, troll10:12
ubottuNetFlamBorg sort of bot, spam, junk, troll: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!10:12
gnomefreakare we sure he is a bot?10:12
NetFlamBorgThx! But its a joke10:12
gnomefreakllutz: im here already10:12
jpdsNetFlamBorg: Hello.10:12
NetFlamBorgHi jpds10:12
gnomefreaknot a bot good10:12
NetFlamBorgA bot?10:12
Tm_TNetFlamBorg: please don't use this channel for your personal amusement, see channel topic10:12
NetFlamBorgTm_T: please don't use this channel for your personal amusement, see10:13
gnomefreakNetFlamBorg: join #ubuntu-offtopic for non support convo10:13
gnomefreakdamnit10:13
dr_willis;)10:13
elkybots not allowed in their either, really10:13
litropyAwe - just as I was typing up the turing test.10:13
elkythere*10:13
gnomefreakhe wasnt a bot afaict10:14
dr_willisjust  a lame troll?10:14
llutzgnomefreak: then is was a troll, spammer, idiot, whatever,  spamming this channel10:14
elkygnomefreak, parroting people isn't really a down thing in -ot either :P10:14
Tm_Tno point discussing this here10:14
gnomefreakyep thats the feeling i got10:14
gnomefreakelky: true but it is better than in here10:14
anadiaNeed help with Huawei usb modem, please10:14
anadiaNeed help with Huawei E220 usb modem, please10:16
dr_willisthat a 3g modem? dialup modem? or what exactly10:16
Tm_Tanadia: please elaborate what help you do need (:10:16
anadiadr_willis, Tm_T its a 3g modem. I would like to use it to connect the internet10:18
litropyanadia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei/E22010:18
dr_willis;) i cant really think of any other use for them... so.. you plug it in.. you go to network manager icon at the top right...10:18
litropyanadia, mind you that's a dialup howto10:19
xkernelis there a channel for Ubuntu dev support?10:19
litropyxkernel, try #ubuntu+110:19
dr_willisi thibk theres #ubuntu-motu10:20
anadiadr_willis I am on Linux Lite. I know this is Ubuntu channel. But Linux Lite is using Ubuntu 12.0410:20
Tm_Tanadia: that's not Ubuntu10:20
dr_willisanadia:  ubuntu ahs a nice network manager tool.... look for it i guess...10:20
xkernellitropy, not the beta support I mean for code development10:20
anadiaok, then sorry i bothered you guys10:20
litropyanadia, what kernel are you using?10:21
spacecowboy29Hey all ! Is this is the right place to ask questions about bazaar or do I go to #ubuntu-motu ?10:21
mablaeHi there10:22
mablaeI am getting strange typing errors in Xmind10:22
mablaeTyping "a" in a node selects all Text... ? !10:22
mablaeVery strange...10:22
mablaeNo hotkeys are activated... ?!10:23
mablaeJust NUM10:23
anadialitropy 3.2.0-3210:23
TimmyTTI've got a problem with my floppy..10:23
litropyE220 is supported natively by Linux Kernel 2.6.20-rc2 or higher. It should just ... work.10:23
hillary_eclipse cannot start in my ubuntu 12.04. I get an error "An error has occurred. See the log file10:24
hillary_/home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359541343404.log."10:24
vileman_0x43awesome is so cool10:24
litropyhillary_, we can't see the logs located locally on your computer.10:24
TimmyTTThe wife says its too....floppy.10:24
hillary_litropy,  how do i go about then to solve it please10:25
mablaeWTF floppy?10:25
mablaehillary_, pastie the log to paste.org for a start10:26
litropyhillary_ $cat /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359541343404.log10:26
abowasWhat¨s wrong with these commands? I want them to run after eachother "mkdir /home/newuser/ ; mkdir .ssh"10:26
litropyhillary_, then copy the output and paste it to https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaste.ubuntu.com%2F&ei=OfUIUe_3Hafy0QG3m4HIBg&usg=AFQjCNFz-jtIul_Dxhji62ThvMzL6pcvUg&sig2=RVmAtJbd6Dv8ZgcFZ2q6qQ&bvm=bv.41642243,d.dmQ10:27
litropywhoops10:27
litropyhillary_ then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/10:27
spacecowboy29A question, I have an error in bazaar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589248/,  Corkscrew is referred as Corksrew, so I'm guessing a typo, but not sure where to modify it...10:28
bartzyHey10:30
bartzyif I use 12.10 , and PHP version there is X for example10:30
bartzyfor example 5.4.610:30
bartzyand then PHP releases PHP 5.510:30
bartzythe repo will update to php 5.5 ?10:30
dr_willis!latest10:30
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.10:30
bartzyOr will stay at 5.4.6 forever, with just security patches (like debian) ?10:30
dr_willisbartzy:  possible, but not likely10:30
bartzySo exactly like debian stable /10:31
bartzySame policy give or take ?10:31
dr_willistheres backports and ppas if yoiu need newer10:31
bartzyCool.10:31
bartzyAnd this is the same for all ubuntu releases ?10:31
bartzy12.04, 12.10, 13.04 ?10:31
dr_willisyes10:31
bartzyOr there is a "Testing" version where the packages update , like debian wheezy/sid ?10:31
dr_willisbartzy:  no 'testing'10:31
RayHello, im trying to install TrueCombat Elite on ubuntu 12.04, when i extract/install it from Term, it is looking for Wolfenstein, is wolfenstein needed..???10:32
bobweaverbartzy,  not really there are pure "Ubuntu developers"  that both do Ubuntu patchs and also debian or just Ubuntu thus sometimes thing make it into Ubuntu stuff but that is not looked up to that much10:32
bobweaverbartzy,  what is stoping you from installing "what you want to use ? "10:32
bartzydr_willis: So how packages getting upgraded in major versions ? i.e. php5.4 to php 5.5 ? Just in new releases, i.e. 13.04 to 13.10 ?10:32
shomonwhere can I get help with soap web services? sorry if that's OT here...10:32
dr_willisbartzy:  you got it.10:32
litropybobweaver, I think he's trying to get a grasp of how Ubuntu manages their packages.10:33
bobweaverahh10:33
dr_willisevery 6 mo  stuff gets updated.. in most cases10:33
alimjSorry if this is a dumb but however I could change GIMP interface language?10:33
bobweaverunless there is a security patch or something big is needed. correct10:33
dr_willisbut even then - it may not be the absolute latest10:33
bobweaverdr_willis,  about 6 months behind ?10:33
alimjI mean How could I change GIMP interface language?10:34
dr_willisi never worry about the vversions. ;)10:34
litropydr_willis, so packages will never get upgradd to newer versions if I keep the same Ubunu release?10:34
litropyupgraded*10:34
dr_willis!latest10:34
bluntedNewest upstart produces odd error with HDD devices, what's the proper way of reporting it?10:34
litropySorry for the typos peeps - I'm tired.10:34
RayHello, im trying to install TrueCombat Elite on ubuntu 12.04, when i extract/install it from Term, it is looking for Wolfenstein, is wolfenstein needed..???10:34
bobweaveralimj,  you can change the language for all programs under gnome-control-center -> language's10:34
dr_willisnormally only security updates get  updated topackage.. some times secirity fixs get ported back to older packages10:35
Ben64Ray: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, ask the truecombat people?10:35
litropydr_willis, thx10:35
bartzydr_willis: So what is the difference between the main repository, and the security repository ?10:35
RayBen64 : Probably10:35
litropyAlrighty. Goodnight, peeps.10:35
dr_willisbartzy:  no idea. i rarely worry about such things10:36
bartzyok, thanks. Anyone knows why there is a security repo and a main repo ?10:36
bobweaverbartzy,  main is the "main"  security is push from CVT's10:37
bobweaverlike if there is a report bartzy  of some CVE then fixs can go to that also kernel fixs and stuff like that10:37
bobweaverkinda10:38
bobweaverbartzy if you like things like that Today is part of Ubuntu Developers week in #ubuntu-classroom10:38
MoL0ToVthere are a guide to make a ubuntu network with shared net fs and centralized user auth on login?10:40
MoL0ToVif there are one, i put in a basket windows network.10:41
MoL0ToV200 pc in a school10:41
MoL0ToVwith win xp/710:41
bluntedMain upstart pushed back and broke no initramfs loads, who do I tell since its not Ubuntu kernel config?10:41
MoL0ToVi want to place ubuntu with centralized user auth10:41
MoL0ToVand login10:41
SAngeliI need help with permissions. I run ubuntu server. /var/www has this security "drwxr-xr-x  2 root root". I need with another username (being allowed to do so) to be able to wrx to this path (-R). what should I do? I wish not to alter native permissions. Can this new username be like root? if so how to? or can I add this user to the root group?10:43
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Ben64SAngeli: you should look into vhosts10:43
dr_willisSAngeli:  i think you add them to the www group.. but i  alwo thought www should be owned by the  www group.   but i am only rembering what otheers have said iin here in the past10:44
GoodHand_Hi10:48
SAngeliok10:48
SAngelidr_willis, I see. Let me see10:48
GoodHand_Hi GeniusBrain10:48
GoodHand_I have problem with add app to left bar! (sublime text 2)10:49
SAngelidr_willis, what I need is to create a SAMBA share to /var/www and be able to rwx from another PC.10:49
ActionParsnipGoodHand_: what is the issue?10:49
GoodHand_How to do it!10:50
SAngelidr_willis, also the gruup name is root root as listed above.10:50
ActionParsnipGoodHand_: do you have the app installed?10:50
dr_willisroot.root for owning www seems odd..  but i dont manage web servers ;)10:51
Ben64SAngeli: sounds very insecure. you should really look into a better system. ssh/scp/rsync and vhosts10:51
GeniusBrainBen6410:51
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GoodHand_ActionParsnip: yeah10:51
GeniusBrainGoodHand_: do you have the app installed?10:51
SAngeliBen64, is local to my network and is for development only. I need to see this as a file folder inside my PC. I do not wish to ftp or similar10:52
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SAngelimoreover it is only on the /www  so not much security issue.10:52
SAngelithis is only for the web server for developing websites locally10:52
dr_willisi bet samba will screw with ownership anbd permissions greatly... while  ssh/scp/stp wont...10:52
GoodHand_GeniusBrain: yeeeeah10:52
GeniusBrainGoodHand_: what is the issue?10:52
GoodHand_GeniusBrain: How to add app in python to left bar10:53
GeniusBrainNeed to see this as a file folder inside my PC10:53
Ben64by PC you mean windows?10:53
hillary_Hello, when i run update i get'10:53
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SAngeliBen yes10:58
SAngeliBen64, Yes, Windows 710:58
GoodHand_GeniusBrain: Bye!10:58
GeniusBrainGoodHand_: do you have the app installed?10:58
ActionParsnipGoodHand_: run the app, when it shows in the Unity launcher, right click it and select to lock it.10:59
GeniusBrainProblem with add app in python to left bar10:59
Ben64you could set /var/www to 777 and/or change owner, then have it shared with samba with no permissions10:59
GeniusBrainMoreover it is only on the /www so not much security issue10:59
raven_ive got an issue.. i have a laptop and pc, and i need to install windows on my pc but it has no dvd drive, and my usb is only 2 gigs.. is it possible to use a harddrive as like a usb?11:00
Ben64GeniusBrain: why do you keep repeating what people say11:00
GeniusBrainMean windows?11:00
GeniusBrainBen64: do you keep repeating what people say11:00
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Ben64GeniusBrain: stop11:00
GeniusBrainBen64: yeah11:00
SAngeliBen64, no change owner. I could change group but is there a way I can add a user to root group? I ask this because if I am correct when I list /var/www I get drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  which tells me that the owner is "root" but also that the group is "root". Am I right?11:01
Ben64SAngeli: why not change owner?11:01
figuse Wubi, you can install Ubuntu with no DVD over your Windows installation11:01
SAngeliBen64, because I do not know if this would have any impact on Apache running. Also, I have a differne case too. So11:01
lombardoSAngeli: change group doing this: chown sangeli.users /var/www/file11:02
Ben64SAngeli: it wouldn't affect apache11:02
SAngeliI wish to know if I can add sangeli to root group or similar11:02
SAngelican I do so?11:02
Ben64you cannot11:02
GeniusBrainSAngeli: do you have the app installed?11:02
SAngeliSo, my last resort is to access the share as root11:02
SAngeliI can do so, right?11:02
Ben64no11:02
GeniusBrainYou can install Ubuntu with no DVD over your Windows installation11:02
SAngeli:-(11:03
Ben64i've already given you a solution11:03
GeniusBrainPossible to use a harddrive as like11:03
lombardoSAngeli: root group is wheel... if you want to add sangeli to wheel group, i think you need to do: usermod -g wheel sangeli11:03
SAngeliBen64, here is another example: I wish to rwx on /var/log. I cannot go around the system and start changing ownership like I wish.11:03
figThe nice thing about using Wubi is you can access your Windows files as if they're in just another file11:04
SAngelilombardo, thanks11:04
SAngeliI will try11:04
figfolder*11:04
SAngelilombardo, it does not exist as group11:04
Ben64SAngeli: i've already given you a solution....11:05
GeniusBrainLike a usb?11:05
SAngeliBen64, Ok, I get it.11:05
lombardoSAngeli: you sure?  look in /etc/groups .. is no wheel?11:05
Ben64lombardo: not on ubuntu/debian11:05
GeniusBrainDoes not exist as group11:05
lombardoSAngeli: cat /etc/group11:05
SAngelilombardo, I was unable to find it.11:05
lombardooh i see11:05
ActionParsnipfig: you can do that in a regular install11:05
GeniusBrainShows in the Unity launcher, right?11:06
SAngelilombardo, cat /etc/group | grep wheel11:06
ActionParsnipfig: accessing windows partitions isn't unique to wubi installs11:06
hillary_Hello, when i run update i get " http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589308/" any where i have messed my system?11:06
GeniusBrainSAngeli wheel sangeli11:06
GeniusBrainHi hillary_11:06
Ben64ActionParsnip: are you an op?11:06
hillary_hi11:06
ActionParsnipBen64: i'm not, just a member11:06
figI know, but it's really fast11:06
lombardoSAngeli: well then add your user to root group11:06
GeniusBrainI can do so, right click it and select to lock11:06
Ben64ActionParsnip: darn, this bot is annoying, and nobody is here11:06
GeniusBrainPc, and I need to see this as a file folder inside my PC11:07
SAngelilombardo, which is the root group? is it admin?11:07
ActionParsnipBen64: have you used:  !ops11:07
hillary_GeniusBrain,  hi11:07
lombardoSAngeli: root group is also called root11:07
Ben64i'm in #ubuntu-ops11:07
GeniusBrainhillary_: root group or similar11:07
ActionParsnipfig: what is fast?11:07
hillary_GeniusBrain, similar11:07
GeniusBrainhillary_: you sure? look in /etc/groups11:07
figusing Wubi rather than checking another harddrive partition11:07
Ben64hillary_: ignore GeniusBrain11:08
GeniusBrainBen64: How to do it!11:08
BrixSatMorning11:08
ActionParsnipfig: its not really fast, a true install will be faster as it doesn't get affected by the shortcomings in NTFS11:08
figyou can browse videos for instance quickly11:08
GeniusBrainShare as root11:08
lombardoGeniusBrain is just pasting other peoples lines as answers to random people11:08
GeniusBrainMe see this as a file folder inside my PC11:08
ActionParsnipfig: you can do that in a non-wubi install11:08
lombardoGeniusBrain: right?11:08
hillary_Ben64, help11:08
GeniusBrainI need to install windows on my pc but it has no dvd drive, and I need11:08
Ben64hillary_: whats your issue?11:08
figit isyou just hate windows11:08
figI think11:09
Ben64!ops | GeniusBrain11:09
ubottuGeniusBrain: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!11:09
figbecause I have tried both11:09
GeniusBrainPython to left bar! sublime text 211:09
GeniusBrainI have problem with add app to left bar! sublime text 211:09
hillary_Ben64, when i run update i get " http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589308/" any where i have messed my system?11:09
GeniusBrainInside my PC11:09
lombardoBen64: he is a bot, posting random lines it sees in channel... kick it out11:09
Ben64lombardo: I would if I could11:10
lombardo!ops GeniusBrain11:10
hillary_Ben64,  you got it?11:10
lombardo!op GeniusBrain11:10
lombardo!op11:10
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!11:10
Ben64hillary_: well the error says it all. you have a duplicate source11:11
hillary_Ben64,  yes how can i correct it please11:11
ActionParsnipfig: no, I just understand how NTFS degrades over time, this affects the wubi disk file directly11:11
ActionParsnipfig: Journalised file systems do not degrade nearly as much so is a much better option in that sense11:12
Ben64hillary_: open the software center, go to Edit and Software Sources, and uncheck the one that is duplicate11:12
phoenixsamprashello, ubuntu is crashing in my laptop11:12
GeniusBrainHi phoenixsampras11:12
lombardohillary_: it says you have duplicate entries in your sources.list... i would look in that file.. it is at /etc/apt/sources.list11:12
lombardohillary_: just comment it out if there is a duplicate there11:12
ActionParsnipfig: the ONLY good thing about Wubi imho is that the host partition is mapped automagically for you, otherwise the fact that wubi is so fragile makes it not suitable for long term use11:12
GeniusBrainI do so?11:12
GeniusBrainI have a duplicate there11:12
ActionParsnipfig: and fixing it is far from easy via liveCD (mount ntfs, loop mount wubi file etc).11:13
GeniusBrainJournalised file systems do not degrade nearly as much so is a duplicate source11:13
BrixSathow do i know if my ubuntu is hardware acelerated?11:13
lombardo!troll GeniusBrain11:14
Ben64lombardo: you gotta use a | to direct a trigger towards someone11:14
Myrttilombardo: yes, we are aware you are alarmed about something. that's enough for now11:14
Myrttilombardo: the ops are aware11:14
GeniusBrainWe are aware11:15
Firetuxhi11:15
Firetuxhi RajneshSiwal111:15
RajneshSiwal1Hi , Is there anyone to help me with Zentyal ?11:17
BrixSathow do i view if my pc is vga hardware acelerated?11:17
Super_DogI need help with Zentyal...11:17
Super_Dog:-)11:17
Ben64BrixSat: glxinfo | grep -i direct11:17
RajneshSiwal1:)11:17
RajneshSiwal1OK. Whats your question ?11:17
BrixSatben64 yes :)11:17
Super_DogI'm a Zentyal retard....  but what's your question...11:17
awisepilotHi, is any familar with Kernal Virtual Machine (KVM)?  I am having a problem connecting to a VM after I created it.11:17
RajneshSiwal1I need to migrate from OpenLDAP to Zentyal11:18
RajneshSiwal1There are some additional schemas that we have added to it11:18
RajneshSiwal1It includes samba, Password Policy and sudoers11:18
Super_Dogwoww....  out of my league there.  I just got lucky and figured out how to make my little Atom server blades run some file sharing LAN server on Zentyal...11:19
Super_DogThat's about all I'm doing with Zentyal right now...11:19
RajneshSiwal1You should use it as an AD (PDC) it supports even GPOs11:19
Super_Dogwhat's a GPO?11:20
RajneshSiwal1Integrating both Linux and Windows Environment11:20
lombardoSuper_Dog: it is GPU spelled wrong11:20
RajneshSiwal1GPO: Group Policies implementation in Windows Environment11:20
RajneshSiwal1As in Active Directory11:20
Super_DogDid you lose the "O" somewhere?11:20
Super_DogI see the "G" and the "P"...11:21
lombardoGroup Policies Omplementation11:21
awisepilotCan anyone help with KVM?11:21
Super_Doglombardo making me wet my pants dude...11:21
muscaawisepilot: yes, in #kvm11:21
awisepilotmusca, I create a successful guest with vmbuilder, but I can not connect to it.  The bridging looks right.11:22
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Super_Doghonestly, I think I just got lucky setting up my Zentyal server...  The web interface and the $90 book are hairier than hell for me...11:23
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Super_DogI'm running the older version still - V 2.27....11:23
RajneshSiwal1ok11:24
Super_DogToo scared to upgrade....  If it ain't broke - don't fix it right...11:24
RajneshSiwal1For Samba4 I created a Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKMtFyyxGI11:24
lombardobrazilian dancers?11:24
Ben64!ot | everyone11:24
ubottueveryone: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:24
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Super_DogYou really think that Samba4 in Zentyal is going to work out of the box...?11:24
Super_DogI have my doubts on that one...11:24
RajneshSiwal1I have tested it for basic functionality and works finr11:25
RajneshSiwal1http://www.youtube.com/user/rsiwal11:25
RajneshSiwal1We have some more videos in Linux on it.11:25
RajneshSiwal1May be they can help you out11:25
Ben64seriously, if you would like to talk to each other about zentyal, take it somewhere else, this channel is for ubuntu support only11:25
awisepilotMuska could you help me figure this KVM guest connection problem out?11:25
muscaawisepilot: bridging "looks right"?11:25
Hanmac_kepler i found the culpit and it has nothing todo with dns ... it was the stupid magento shit ... :/11:26
awisepilotyes11:26
RajneshSiwal1My mistake11:26
awisepilotI can show you my netstat -n and ifconfig files11:26
Super_DogZentyal is ubuntu isn't it?11:26
MonkeyDustawisepilot musca wrong channel11:26
muscaawisepilot: #kvm11:27
awisepilotwhat do you mean wrong channel11:27
MonkeyDustSuper_Dog  if zentyal were the same as ubuntu, it would be called ubuntu11:27
Super_DogOK.  -  I guess the command "lsb_release -a" must be lying to me then.  It says Ubuntu 10.04 on my Zentyal server terminal...11:30
dr_willis!zentyal11:31
ubottuzentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).11:31
dr_williszentyl is a program not an os11:31
Ben64dr_willis: its both11:32
jnhghydoes anybody know how to install adobe acrobat reader in ubuntu 12.04 64bit? I tried adding the ppa also downloading the .bin, .deb, .rpm from the adobe site all had issues. anybody has a solution that want's to share?11:33
hillary_dr_willis, hi, Kindly assist me with a command that will allow me to write into a root folder11:33
ronin_1977hi11:33
Ben64jnhghy: do you really need adobe's? ubuntu comes with a pdf reader by default11:34
ActionParsnipjnhghy: mark the .bin file as executable and run it using sudo11:34
ActionParsniphillary_: do you use a GUI OS?11:34
ronin_1977i need some information about video converter in linux11:35
hillary_dr_willis,  i want to alter a file in /etc/apt/sourcelist.txt ubuntu 12.04 is my os yes11:35
ActionParsniphillary_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sourcelist.txt11:35
jnhghyBen64: I can't use evince because with some of my pdf's when I try to print I get inverted colors (even in print preview)11:35
ActionParsnipjnhghy: use terminal, lots easier11:36
ronin_1977i have ubuntu 12.10 , and download i little program called soun converter , but this program not work very well11:36
jnhghyActionParsnip: I made the .bin file executable and tried to run it but I get error message "No such file or directory"11:36
ActionParsnipjnhghy: then you need to change directory to where the file is held11:36
ActionParsnipjnhghy: you will also need to prefix the file with ./  as pwd is not in $PATH11:36
ActionParsnipjnhghy: so use:  sudo ./Acrobat.bin    or whatever the file name is11:37
ronin_1977soundconverter dont convert all files in the list . His stopped in the middle of task11:37
jnhghyActionParsnip: I did, then I typed only a few letters of the name of the pack and then hit "tab" and it founded the file .... so I'm giving the right command in the right place but still get the error, yes with ./ in front :)11:37
ActionParsnipjnhghy: try using absolute path. Eg:  sudo /home/$USER/filename.bin11:38
Super_Dogjinghy:  I installed from Medibuntu repository  quite easily...    http://www.medibuntu.org/11:38
ActionParsnipjnhghy: I assume you used:  chown +x /home/$USER/filename.bin    to mark executable11:39
jnhghyActionParsnip: I ended up thinking it's an issue with the program running on 64bit is this not plausible?11:39
ActionParsnipjnhghy: possibly, i've not used acrobat reader, let me see11:39
Super_DogJust downloaded the font package and it gave me reader, too...11:39
jnhghyActionParsnip: thanks for the time, I'll try with absolute path.... if that won't work I'll try Super_dog solution. Thanks both...11:39
Super_DogMay not be the latest and greatest at medibuntu but it worked for me....11:40
ActionParsnipjnhghy: http://www.lorenzobettini.it/2012/11/install-adobe-reader-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-64bit/11:40
hillary_ActionParsnip: Thank you my issue is solved by gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:42
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lutik;ffljfdo11:44
embatwassup11:46
BluesKajHey all11:50
jithuhii11:50
snqlwhat11:50
jithuanyone know how to get gui of huawei datacard in ubuntu?11:51
jithuanyone know how to get gui of huawei datacard in ubuntu?11:51
jithuhu kunjo11:52
jithukunji11:52
mathihi11:52
jithuhi11:52
mathiI try to find my wireless configs11:53
mathiI opened /etc/network/interfaces11:53
fenboxhello world11:53
mathibut there I don't see any SSID, WPA password, etc.11:53
mathiwhere can I find the settings ?11:53
cfhowlettfenbox, greetings11:53
mathiI do have internet with wireless, but I don't know where the authentication parameters are stored11:53
hillary_i want to get rid of all the eclipse in my system then install a new. How do i go a bout11:54
donzamathi: /etc/wpa_supplicant?11:54
MonkeyDusthillary_  sudo apt-get purge eclipse;sudo apt-get autoremove -- also remove config files (in ~/.config or so)11:55
ziyadbhey guys, quick question.11:57
ziyadbI run sudo su postgres then get prompted for that account's password. What is the password?11:57
mathidonza, I have sh scripts there11:57
hillary_MonkeyDust, how do i remove  ~/.config11:57
mathidonza, where is the config to change SSID ?11:58
mathior WPA pasword :/11:58
MonkeyDusthillary_  mind: the folder inside ~/.config -- like you would remove any other folder11:59
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mathinobody knows where the wireles configs are ?11:59
MonkeyDusthillary_  in GUI: ctrl-h to show hidden folders12:00
shomonmathi: do you have an icon showing a wireless connection on the top of the screen?12:02
mathishomon, i don't have a screen now ...12:03
mathishomon, I have only a CLI12:03
shomonI think it's network-manager in /etc/init.d12:03
mathishomon, this is a script and I don't see my network ID and other settings12:04
mathishomon, when I do iwconfig I see all the settings... but where are they ???12:04
mathi:-(12:05
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calwigwhere is the #kmail chan?12:07
coz_hey guys, up until 12.04 I used  python -c "import gtk; gtk.recent_manager_get_default().purge_items()"  to delete recent documents, it doesnt seem to work on 12.10..any revisions to that  action?12:08
awaycalwig, maybe try #kontact ?12:09
calwigaway,  just about did :)12:09
Diegosnathi guys, what kind of solution ubuntu uses to automount external hd????12:12
MonkeyDustDiegosnat  /etc/fstab12:12
jpdsDiegosnat: udisks12:12
jpdsMonkeyDust: No.12:13
Diegosnatjpds, cheers12:13
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kostkon_coz_, try from gi.repository import Gtk,  Gtk.rece... etc12:13
Diegosnatjpds, where is the config file?12:13
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zayanguys12:17
zayan:?12:17
zayanhelloo?12:18
ProfessorBaconhi12:18
zayando you know how to use honeypot ?12:18
zayanheloo?12:19
keyproblemIs it stupid to create a user named backup in Ubuntu?12:22
geek4ever!aptitude12:23
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.12:23
geek4ever!smart12:24
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cfhowlettkeyproblem, if you have to ask ...12:24
keyproblemcfhowlett: I was wondering if perhaps something already used that name.. :(12:25
keyproblemcfhowlett: guess I could create anotehr user!12:26
jnhghyI was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access12:27
np8Hi! I just updated to Ubuntu 12.10. Now i have some problems to connect to the internet (I'm here via different pc). How can I see that is my wifi-card broken, or is it just a settings problem? I can see my wifi's (My schools and my phone's shared wifi), but after I have connected to one, I cannot get to any website. Please, can somebody help me?12:28
jnhghyI was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access12:29
awayjnhghy, sudo apt-get install network-manager ?12:34
jnhghyis there a way to download "network-manager" package and save it on a memory stick? and install it after that?12:34
jnhghyaway: I have no internet connection12:34
awayoh, right12:35
awayyou can use apt-get download network-manager on another computer12:35
jnhghyaway:thanks that should work for network-manager :)12:38
icerootjnhghy: you have no network because you dont have network-amanger or no network because of no cable?12:39
jnhghyiceroot: I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access12:39
icerootjnhghy: i guess that means "because i dont have network manager"12:39
icerootjnhghy: you can configure your network via cli12:39
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bartzykernel compilation - Is that a good test for CPU benchmarking ?12:40
jnhghyiceroot: it might also mean that I got a lot of things uninstall and I'm not sure if network manager will fix the network connection: I tried eth0 up and got error reading the port. at this point I hope installing network-manager will fix this. how can I use cli?12:41
cardpuncherHi, does anyone have the release date of Ubuntu 12.04.2? I read it was tomorrow but also that it was scheduled for like February 14th so I don't know.12:42
awaycardpuncher, launchpad says it's expected in 11 hours12:44
freakynlhi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 server on a pre-existing hardware12:45
freakynlit has several md raid sets, 12 disks in total, I only want to recreate the OS partitions on the first 2 disks12:46
cardpuncheraway: Yes, I definitely need the alx driver it will contain so I hope that 11 hours are true. But then, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule> says two more weeks.12:46
freakynlThe problem is, it doesn't show sda in the partition toolie12:46
freakynlI can see it on the cli, but since that has no fdisk/cfdisk/gdisk/parted I can't do much there either12:46
cfhowlettfreakynl, this might a question better suited to #ubuntu-server12:46
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keyproblemTrying private key ---.ssh/id.dsa .. why won't it use my RSA key?? :/(12:54
icerootkeyproblem: what command exactly is using your dsa instead of rsa key?12:55
keyproblemiceroot: tried connecting with -vvv and it never said that if offered "rsa" only "dsa"12:56
jpdskeyproblem: ssh -i .ssh/id_rsa12:56
keyproblemjpds: that didnt work either.. will try to create dsa key instead iceroot12:58
jpdskeyproblem: Did you actually give it the full path to the RSA key file?12:59
keyproblemjpds: yup12:59
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histokeyproblem: What are you tryinkg to do?13:08
GoodHand_Guten tag!13:10
histo!de | GoodHand_13:11
ubottuGoodHand_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!13:11
GoodHand_Ja Ja!13:11
GoodHand_Ich liebe Ubuntu de!13:11
GoodHand_German!13:11
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ioriaHi. I run lubuntu 12.04 and  i cannot open file url (URL=file:///) in gnome-terminal.  any help ? thanks13:12
GoodHand_ubottu !help13:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:12
drakonmaneguten tag13:12
histoioria: You can't use links like that in gnome terminal13:12
MonkeyDust!de13:12
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!13:12
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ubottuGoodHand_, please see my private message13:12
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drakonmaneI want to speak germen13:13
ioriahisto: I also installed gnome and in gnome i can :+13:13
MonkeyDustdrakonmane  type /join #ubuntu-de13:13
histoioria: can you explain a little more perhaps I don't understand what you are doing.13:13
GoodHand_Hi all!13:14
histoGoodHand_: Do you have a ubuntu related question?13:14
ioriahisto: ok, sorry. i open gnome-terminal and a file with an url inside (ex. URL=file:///home/ioria/hello) and it opens with gedit13:14
GoodHand_Yes13:15
GoodHand_How to add Sublime text 2 (python app) to left bar13:15
histoioria: How are you "opening" the file with a url in it?13:15
ioriahisto: but in lubuntu nothing happens13:15
MonkeyDustGoodHand_  type /join #ubuntu-app-devel13:15
jnhghyI have a hdd that has ubuntu 12.04 with a lot of software that got removed(including network-manager) at this point I have that hdd in this computer that also has ubuntu 12.04. at this point I see 2 options: 1 I download and copy the missing packages and try to install them after I put the hdd back in it's computer or I reinstall the os-that brings me to a new question: if I reinstall the os can I simply copy paste the current profile? will it use the exi13:16
jnhghysting config files? or is this out of the question?13:16
GoodHand_thx13:16
ioriahisto: you create a file with inside written: URL=file:///home/user/filename13:16
histojnhghy: Why not just copy everything with rsync? Or dd13:17
blackshirthello, what is the website http://packages.ubuntu.com written with ?13:17
jnhghyhisto: copying everything? what do you mean?13:17
histojnhghy: Your question doesn't really makse sense.  Do you have two hdd's or one?  Are you trying to transfer data?13:18
histoblackshirt: looks like html to me13:19
kunjihisto: ioria is referring to what is shown in the Location bar in Nautilus I think.  Hmm, I've never tried reaching something that way on the command line.13:19
kunjihisto: Well, there's something like that syntax for Browse Network, I don't remember seeing it anywhere else though13:20
ioriakunji: no wait.... :-(  i'd like to open a file url in gnome terminal but i can't in lubuntu... but i CAN in gnome... why that ?13:20
jnhghyI'm very sorry if my question doesn't make sens, I'll try elaborate. I said I have a hdd with issues (I removed a lot of softwares from it) at this point that hdd is a slave in a nother computer(the computer I am using now) the data was not affected but I need a solution to fix the os on the hdd that has issues if the best way is to reinstall then I need also a solution to copy the config/customization files with apropriate rights....13:20
histojnhghy: I don't know how else to say that for it to make sense.  Copying all your data.13:20
histokunji: yeah smb://server  in nautilus13:21
histoioria: and how do you open said file in terminal?13:21
histojnhghy: rsync <<13:21
histojnhghy: and What sort of issues do you mean?13:22
kunjiioria: That's just it, I don't know what you mean by a file url... files don't have urls, except I think for files on the network rather than on your machine.  Just what file are you trying to access?13:22
jnhghyhisto: you told me a solutin then you ask me what I mean? does it make sens?13:22
ioriahisto: if you write in gnome-terminal "URL=file:///home/user/filename" and you move your mouse over it it's highlighted13:22
histoAm I crazy or is everyone in here not making sense right now?13:22
histojnhghy: rsync can copy your configs13:22
kunjihisto: you're not crazy, I'm as confused as you are13:23
histojnhghy: I originally thought you wanted to copy your entire drive. So I was saying you could use rsync or dd13:23
blackshirthisto: where i can get the source code for it ? is it freely available ?13:23
ioriahisto: and right click you can choose "open link"13:23
jnhghyhisto: thanks for this info, and the new os will use those config files? I need to use the same username? or how will it tell?13:23
histoblackshirt: right click view source13:23
ioriahisto: and the file opens13:24
kunjiioria: The highlighting means nothing significant, I think it's just picking up on the syntax with : and // and thinking it's an http url.13:24
histoioria: Okay well you can't right click on a file in gnome-terminal . So maybe you mean nautilus file browser.13:24
usr13histo: You're not crazy13:24
ioriahisto: uffi ....13:24
histoioria: uffi?13:25
histowth13:25
Ben64actually, gnome-terminal does parse links and lets you click them13:25
ioriahisto: it's a distress call :-)13:25
usr13Ben64: Yea, but it just copies the text; Right?13:25
histoBen64: how is he even seeing the link if it's in a file in a terminal. He still hasn't explained that.13:25
ioriaBen64: thank you :-)13:25
ioriaBen64: you're my man13:26
kunjihisto: You're not crazy yet, but by the end of today... :P13:26
Kartagishas anybody been experiencing an excessive system load when Chrome is running (not chromium)?13:26
Ben64usr13: nope; histo: it's not a file, he meant the link just in the terminal13:26
kunjihisto: umm, maybe in a man page?  But I think it would be to a website not a file.13:26
histoKartagis: chrome is a memory hog13:26
PioneerAxonHey all, I recently started experiencing a new problem with the wireless hotspot. :/13:26
histokunji: what?13:26
Kartagishisto: should I go back to chromium? it's flash-buggy13:27
PioneerAxonThe machines can only connect when I have the network open (no security).13:27
histoKartagis: chromium should have the same behavior13:27
Kartagishisto: so only option left for me is ff?13:28
JpmhKartagis: yes - chrome is horrible if you do not have a boatload of memory13:28
PioneerAxonOne is running Ubuntu 12.10 (with intel 5100 chip) and another on 12.04 (with bcmw 4313).13:28
KartagisJpmh: 2gb13:28
JpmhKartagis: midori seems very low profile13:28
histoKartagis: that's plenty of memory. There are lighter browsers though if that is your concern13:28
kunjihisto: Well, for instance if you do man ls and scroll down to the Reporting Bugs section, there are urls to websites.  That's just about the only place I can think of where you would see urls in the terminal.  Well, or in web dev stuff.13:29
usr13If we want to [regularly] access a samba share on another [Linux] PC, it's probably easiest to set it up as an nfs share, and you can mount it on the local [Linux] PC as /home/user/samba-share or something like that.13:29
JpmhKartagis: 2gb with unity is probably not enough13:29
KartagisJpmh: cairo-dock13:29
JpmhKartagis: what?13:30
ioriaBen64: i can open 'URL=http:///www.google.com' but i can't open 'URL=file:///home/ioria/myfile' in lubuntu. But in gnome i can... do you know something about that ? please13:30
PioneerAxonAnyone?13:31
kunjiioria: Yeah, it parses links, I said that already, but files are not "links" per se.  So is it a link, or a file?  Can you screenshot this for us and paste it?13:31
usr13.... that's the way I'd do it....  Because there is nothing wrong with having a samba share also set up as an nfs share.  It's very convenient, (especially if you want to access it and manipulate the files via CLI.)13:31
histoPioneerAxon: How are you trying to connect when security is enabled?13:31
KartagisJpmh: I'm using cairo-dock13:31
Ben64ioria: use gnome? or don't use weird file links in a terminal13:31
PioneerAxonhisto: Just as I normally did, host the hotspot on the first machine (12.10) and then connect with second (12.04)13:31
ioriaBen64: come again , plese ?13:32
histoPioneerAxon: You mean an ad hoc network?13:32
Ben64ioria: use gnome? or don't use weird file links in a terminal13:32
JpmhKartagis: never tried it13:32
PioneerAxonhisto: I had the networks working a day back.. Then suddenly it won't connect, so I had tried different things, and found out that the only problem is with security.. :/13:32
ioriaBen64: i'm on lubuntu, but installed also gnome (in another session) and the link it's a link to a text file13:33
PioneerAxonhisto: Yeah ad-hoc. Hosted by hotspot on 12.1013:33
Ben64ioria: why are you using links like that in a terminal? theres no good reason for it13:33
xiaoyWhich is the ubuntu equivalent for  perl-Net-SSLeay.i686 perl-IO-Socket-SSL pkgs?13:33
kunjiioria: Is there a reason for wanting to use that format?  Why not just use the path to the file?13:33
valentinaOlá.?13:34
kunjiioria: Or what's wrong with using a symlink?13:34
MonkeyDustxiaoy  what is it supposed to do?13:34
xiaoyMongolski, SSL auth13:34
xiaoyMongolski, http://blog.lowkey.net.my/tag/authentication-not-supported-by-the-remote-smtp-server/13:35
xiaoyMongolski, i've got the same problem with sendEmail13:35
MonkeyDustxiaoy  ubuntu server? if yes, they have their own channel #ubuntu-server13:35
ioriaBen64: you know that Lubuntu has not recent files menu so i parsed with xbel_parse the recently-used.xbel file and so i got all the files i used ... but i want be able to open them immediatly and in gnome i can but not in lubuntu13:35
xiaoyMonkeyDust, tkz going ;)13:36
nico__jpasion: -rw-rw-r-- 1 nico nico 9578 Jan 24 15:41 ./doc/html/customcompleter.html13:36
nico__-rw-rw-r-- 1 nico nico 9657 Jan 30 14:33 ./doc/qtcore/customcompleter.html13:36
ioriaBen64: the output of recently-used.xbel file is formed by links .... and i want to be able to open them13:37
PioneerAxonhisto: This happened after I tried and failed to set up the hostapd network on the 12.10 machine.. I have reverted everything I ever did for that..13:37
Ben64ioria: then use gnome13:37
ioriaBen64: very smart answer :P13:37
Ben64well yeah, if lxde doesn't do what you want and gnome does, why try to force a square peg into a round hole13:38
ioriaBen64: gnome already has a recent file menu :)13:38
Ben64problem solved!13:38
kunjiBen64: Because the other peg is a triangle?13:38
ioriaBen64:    :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((13:39
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histo!ics | PioneerAxon13:39
ubottuPioneerAxon: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing13:39
usr13ioria: thunar is nice too, actually, I like it better.13:39
Ben64ioria: of course, if you already have a script going to print file locations,  you could take it one step further and put them all in one folder as symlinks and view them graphically13:39
ioriaBen64:    ^o^13:40
histoioria: it most likely doesn't work because pcmanfm is the default file manager in lxde13:42
histoioria: as apposed to nautilus13:42
PioneerAxonhisto: I am already using the network manager method.. I just can't connect if I set up a password.. This works fine with open network... It used to work before a day.. Strange...13:42
usr13I set thunar to View as Detailed List and toggle Name up or down and Date Modified up or down.13:42
ioriahisto: i think you're right13:42
ioriahisto: so ?13:42
histoioria: So change the default file manager to nautilus13:43
ioriahisto: i have to change the file manager ?13:43
usr13ioria: Or try thunar13:43
ioriahisto: i used thunar in xfce13:43
usr13ioria: YOu can use it in lxde as well, if you want to.13:43
ioriausr13: i'll try that thanx13:44
histoioria: got to LXDE menu > Accessories > File Manager   and right click properties. In the command window type nautilus13:45
xkernelhow to backup the whole keystore?13:46
usr13xkernel: man keystore13:49
xkernelusr13, there is no keystore app, I mean the seahorse13:51
rsavuhello all. trying to start a script with upstart but the service is always starting (giving it a pid) and when typing status, it says it is not running. here is the script: http://pastebin.ca/230892413:55
nyRednekas i was asking yesterday, which package is the installer?13:55
usr13xkernel: man keytool13:55
usr13xkernel: sorry for typo13:55
MyMomHi13:55
MyMomWhen i can get new ubuntu for androids?13:56
l057c0d3rPioneerAxon, i had to set up connections manually for wifi with passwords for some reason with lubuntu.. for some reason there were permission errors when trying to use the connection menu that drops down from the lxde taskbar13:56
usr13nyRednek: installer for what?13:56
Chikotrying to remember a program that lets you connect to a ubuntu instance sort of like mstsc/rdp for windows13:57
Chikoah nvm tightvnc13:58
histo │                          | wifi with13:59
histoChiko: rdesktop13:59
usr13nyRednek: Can you rephrase your question and add more detail?13:59
histoChiko: is for windows. vino or tightvnc for vnc connections in linux13:59
usr13l057c0d3r: lxde  uses lxnm for network manager which is not fully functional, but you can install network-manager and use that.14:00
histousr13: or wicd14:00
usr13l057c0d3r: Yes, as histo points out, there is also wicd14:01
histousr13: nvm14:01
nyRednekusr13, i'm attempting to make a custom livecd without an "install" option14:01
nyRednekusr13, so which package would i remove from the cd?14:01
l057c0d3rusr13, i just no it worked better on the live cd then it did after being installed to the system.. i found a workaround and it works just fine for me now though..  but thanks for the advice.. i'll keep them options in mind14:01
usr13l057c0d3r: wicd may be your best choice while in lxde14:01
usr13l057c0d3r: Ok14:02
lolmausI've installed a fresh Ubuntu 12.04 Server, and SSH won't let me in. Says "Software caused connection abort". Whyyy?14:02
MichaelPHow do i configure audio for HDMI audio ? i opened kmix.. audio setup.. message poped up saying hdmi audio has been removed14:02
Chikohisto: how do i get the ubuntu server to accept connections for tightvnc? i set it up a while ago but i think i had to run something first14:03
Chikocant remember the command14:03
lolmausAlso "Connection refused". :(14:03
muscalolmaus: ssh has a -v option for better messages14:04
nyRedneklolcat, is sshd running?14:04
nyRedneklolmaus, even14:04
Chikocrisis averted14:05
lolmausmusca, i'm connecting from Windows via Putty.14:05
circleHow do I make WINE not insert itself as the default option for openeing a bunch of files (like text files, when I double click them it now opens them with notepad)14:06
SAngeliis there a difference for the password between an Admin user and the root user? Is there such a root password or account under ubuntu server? I ask this as when I changed the password for the user when I typed sudo -s I had to use the same user password. Can comeone please explain?14:07
usr13nyRednek: I dono, is it apt-install?14:07
histoChiko: Did you install tightvnc server?14:07
nyRednekusr13, not sure14:07
martin___SAngeli: There is no root in Server either iirc14:08
nyRednekusr13, fwiw, i would be happy with an install with minimal GUI14:08
histo!root | SAngeli14:08
ubottuSAngeli: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo14:08
SAngeliI am just reading an article on this. Thank you histo14:08
lolmausmusca, "ssh -v localhost" works locally14:09
nyRedneklolmaus, might be a firewall issue14:10
alcirhi14:10
alcirwhat about showexec for vfat formatted disk?14:11
alcirthere is an easy way to allow all files to be set executables?14:11
alcirI googled a bit14:11
alcirbut solution offered are not so good...14:11
usr13nyRednek: install_cd ?14:12
lolmausnyRednek, not using any on each end14:12
nyRednekusr13, researching, will tell you when i know14:12
usr13nyRednek: or cdromsomething-or-other.   like  cdrominstall?14:13
usr13nyRednek: I know that the alternate CD has cdromupgrade   so....?14:14
usr13nyRednek: Google doesn't seem to be much help on this...14:14
nyRednekusr13, booting into a livecd to see14:15
hick12hi everybody :) could I ask a quick question about the Ubuntu Windows Installer? Basically I just downloaded it on my laptop and installed it expecting the Windows bootloaders to come up when booting. Instead it jumps right into Ubuntu. Is there a way to get it to boot into the bootloader or do I have to restore the old master boot sector effectively prohibiting me from booting into Ubuntu?14:15
usr13nyRednek: Yea, just right click on the install icon and see what it says in properties.14:16
usr13... should give the command name...14:16
usr13and test it from terminal.  And then see where it is.  which cdrominstall  or something....14:17
usr13but the command name is more than likely the app name as well, (I would suppose).14:17
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dw-hick12: should be easy to add windows to your boot loader for selection14:17
dw-hick12: but i forget how. :P14:18
hick12reassuring at least^^14:18
lolmausOkay, it was the router's firewall to blame.14:19
nyRednekusr13, forgot that i don't have virtualbox on this system14:19
nyRednekusr13, will tell you soon14:19
zayanhi14:20
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zayanheloooo14:21
sdwiihick12: try this "sudo update-grub"14:22
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XATRIXHi guys, how can i configure FQDN ?14:25
XATRIXif i issue #hostname - it gives me "web-course", if i do hostname -f  it gives me back - "localhost" ?14:25
XATRIXMy sendmail delays its transfer localhost sendmail[5556]: My unqualified host name (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry14:25
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lolmausHow do i find out which network adapter (eth0, eth1) corresponds to which device model (nVidia, Marvell)?14:30
dv-lolmaus: dmesg | grep eth14:32
nyRednekusr13, it's ubiquity14:33
lolmausdv-, no model name ther14:33
dw-model is in lsusb but no MAC addr some other ID :S14:34
lolmausdw-, how do i determine which is which?14:35
dholbachDay 2 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starts in 22 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom14:38
dw-lolmaus: cant figure it out.. unplug one :P14:38
orbhi, napster.14:38
BrixSatwhat is the command line to access the aditional driver auto installer?14:38
joelishI am trying to connect to my server with RSA key but without success.. can anyone please look here? http://pastebin.com/adFPMUcH14:39
nyRednekusr13, you get that or did i lose connection before it got out?14:39
biff_tannen#factory_girl14:39
napsterhi orb14:39
biff_tannenoops disregard that14:39
IdleOneBrixSat: gksudo jockey-gtk , or jockey-kde14:40
BrixSatIdleOne:  sudo: jockey-gtk: command not found (but it is installed)14:41
IdleOneBrixSat: hmm, not sure what to say.14:42
BrixSatIdleOne:  the package was merged to installer but it still exists in the repo altought does nothing!14:43
blamihi, what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu? Do I understand correctly it is still same distro but different default desktop and set of packages installed (so installing xfce desktop into ubuntu will turn it into what xubuntu is as well)14:43
IdleOneblami: correct14:44
nyRednekblami, close14:44
IdleOneBrixSat: sorry but I am at a loss14:44
nyRednekblami, xubuntu also has different office packages, etc14:44
IdleOneblami: actually, installing xubuntu-desktop to be precise14:44
dw-BrixSat: i see a similar bug reported.. what are you doing14:44
blaminyRednek, IdleOne thanks :)14:45
BrixSatdw-:  i want to see if my graphic card is installed cause some programs are laggy in vga, like the xbmc . how can i do that?14:45
y2jhow do i isntall xampp-linux-1.8.1.tar.gz14:45
y2jor tar.gz in general14:46
y2jthe script is in there but how do i know if its installe14:46
dw-BrixSat: click name -> system settings -> additional drivers ?14:46
BrixSaty2j:  you have to uncompress and read the README14:46
Piciy2j: You should use the LAMP stack in our repositories instead of a third parrt package like that.,14:46
Piciy2j: We will not troubleshoot XAMPP installs here.14:46
ThinkT510!xampp | y2j14:46
ubottuy2j: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.14:46
BrixSatdw-:  the aditional driver is not there14:46
nyRednekblami, but the same repositories, same base system, same system...just different package options14:46
dw-brianbgrp: apt-get install nvidia-current ? :)14:46
dw-wups14:46
BrixSatdw-:  this is an intel (00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)14:47
BrixSat)14:47
y2jthats long may as well stick to wamp on windows14:47
BrixSaty2j:  what is the point to install wamp or xampp in linux? why not apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server14:48
blaminyRednek: i like it is done this way, no diversity and easy transition :)14:50
mathihey14:50
mathiwhen I start my computer, sometimes I get a menu with blackground, to chose generic, recovery mode, etc.14:51
OTIhello, i upgraded 12.04 to 12.10 and now my internet connection refuses to work. the top right icon says i'm online but i can't open any pages with browser nor ping via terminal14:51
OTIwired connection, now wlan14:51
mathias I didn't have any screen, i couldn't chose, I would like my computer to chose the first entry always14:51
OTInot wlan, sorry14:51
nyRednekblami: whatever works14:52
mathilike on windows, when it prompts how to start the computer (normal mode, recovery, ...) there is a timer14:52
mathiI need the same thing14:52
ThinkT510mathi: it should already do that by default14:52
ThinkT510!grub | mathi14:53
ubottumathi: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)14:53
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mathiThinkT510: unfortunately it was waiting forever for a keyboard entry14:53
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y2ji have a spare hard drive any uses for it?14:54
mathiThinkT510: how is this screen namede so that I can google ,?14:54
mathi*called14:54
ThinkT510mathi: i just gave you the link to the grub docs on the ubuntu wiki14:55
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mathithank you14:55
histomathi: if you have a look in the /etc/default/grub  file you can set the timeout14:55
histomathi: it's the grub boot menu14:56
y2jok i have 64gb ssd for ubutnu, 256 for winodws 8 64bit enterprise and another 1tb for some winodws 8 progarms im going to add 2 3tb hard drives in raid14:56
y2jhow do i tranfer all of the 1tb stuff to one of the 3tb hard drives so i can take the 1tb out and all the prgrams will work on the 3tb14:56
y2jthen raid the 3tb with the other 3tb14:56
jhutchins_wky2j: Build the raid first.14:57
mathihisto: in grub file I have "GRUB_TIMEOUT=10", but i promess you it was waiting forever and it wasnt showing any time counter14:57
y2jjhutchins_wk: When i install the 2 3tb i dont want it to break the mbr14:57
y2jit always does14:57
histoy2j: rsync -av source destination14:57
y2jok build the raid14:58
histomathi: change it and make sure you update-grub14:58
nils_mathi: it could be that grub recorded some sort of failure, which will cause it to not use a timeout14:58
y2jhow about moving the 1tb data to the 3tb hd?14:58
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mathinils_:  how do I force it to use the timeout *in any case*14:58
y2jas the 1tb is f: drive the new 3tb has to become f otherwise windows registry will not open the files on the 3tb?14:58
dw-easier questions, plz14:59
y2ji use the 1tb for programs that dont need speed, so the 256ssd has some breathing room14:59
nils_mathi: I just read up on that very problem today, it should be sufficient to set GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT  in /etc/default/grub then do update-grub14:59
Guest32263I can't get the icedtea plugin to work properly, does anyone know how to fix this?15:00
Guest32263upon loading it always asks to "run this time" or "update plug-in"15:01
mathithznks trying to reboot15:01
funky1hi all:)15:02
funky1got a question about ubuntu for mobile phones, will it be able to run normal linux applications or special apps need to be developed for it?15:03
funky1does anyone know this?15:03
OTIhelp with internet connection?15:03
ThinkT510!phone | funky115:03
ubottufunky1: Ubuntu for phone has been announced, see http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone to find out more and to sign up for progress updates. Discussion is in #ubuntu-phone15:03
funky1ah thanks thinkt510 :)15:03
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l057c0d3rhmm ok so i installed cairo dock. on lubuntu and the messenger thing is telling me i need the messenger service installed...  according to the docks in comes already installed on ubuntu.. but im taking it since lubuntu is light weight.. it is left out15:09
l057c0d3rso the question is.. what is the name of the message menu / messenger service used by ubuntu / unity so i could install :-)15:10
mike160hi can anyone help me out installing justcloud on ubuntu 10.415:11
mike160i keep getting15:11
mike160•elena-IK• Unable to locate package JustCloud_32.deb15:11
mike160•elena-IK• Couldn't find any package by regex 'JustCloud_32.deb'15:11
histo))))))))))))) │[10:12] [6] [irc/freenode] 2:#ubuntu(+CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged){1822}* [Act: 5:##linux]15:12
histo │[10:12] [6] [irc/freenode] 2:#ubuntu(+CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged){1822}* [Act: 5:##linux]15:12
histoSorry15:12
histostupid touchpad15:12
llutzmike160: how do you try to install that? sudo dpkg -i  JustCloud_32.deb15:12
FloodBot1histo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:12
mike160llutz i have the file download it on my computer15:13
llutzmike160: so use: sudo dpkg -i  JustCloud_32.deb               change into the directory containing the file before, or add the path to the deb15:14
heywooddumb bash question... i want to define alias foo="echo args: $0, $1, $2, $#, bar". but the command "foo arg1 arg2 arg3" gives me "args: -bash, , , 0, bar arg1 arg2 arg3" ... what am i missing?15:14
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Piciheywood: Probably that you'd get a better answer asking in #bash15:14
heywoodPici: ah, thanks -- didn't see that channel. cheers.15:15
zilkomaaim depressed15:15
llutzheywood: you want functions not aliases when using optional parameters15:15
zilkomaalinux is so useless..15:15
mike160llutz ok thanks will try this15:15
ThinkT510zilkomaa: not the best way to get help...15:15
zilkomaaThinkT510, Yeah i know15:16
l057c0d3rso any one..  know what package to install to get the messaging menu service ?15:16
ThinkT510zilkomaa: perhaps you should state your issue?15:17
MonkeyDustl057c0d3r  "the messaging menu service"?15:17
l057c0d3ryeah the messaging service15:17
MonkeyDustl057c0d3r  what messaging service do you have in mind?15:18
zilkomaaThinkT510, Hard to get radeon drivers working properly and in windows it is working so easy..15:18
mike160llutz i tryed sudo dpkg -i JustCloud_32.deb now am geting15:18
freakynlI'm getting a black screen after grub with 12.10 server. Any ideas? Adding nomodeset in grub (with e editing) doesn't make any difference :(. Is there anything else? I'd like to see the kernel booting15:18
zilkomaaThinkT510, 3D i mean15:18
mike160(Reading database ... 147579 files and directories currently installed.)15:19
mike160Preparing to replace justcloud 3.3.0.13 (using JustCloud_32.deb) ...15:19
mike160Unpacking replacement justcloud ...15:19
mike160Setting up justcloud (3.3.0.13) ...15:19
mike160dpkg: error processing justcloud (--install):15:19
FloodBot1mike160: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:19
mike160subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 12715:19
mike160Errors were encountered while processing:15:19
l057c0d3ru know the envelope on unity... allows you to go offline / available / shows messages received from instant messengers15:19
ThinkT510zilkomaa: i'm using the open source radeon drivers out of the box, sorry i can't help15:19
l057c0d3rthat service is required for the cairo dock message system to work...  im on lubuntu not ubuntu.. so that service is not installed15:19
zilkomaaThinkT510, Ok, you fine with those?15:19
histoMonkeyDust: I think he means the notifier15:20
Allan_guys. is this the right kernel module for an ati sound device? http://pastebin.com/fi4TF9gK15:20
MonkeyDustl057c0d3r  histo  i missed the cairo and lubuntu part15:20
l057c0d3ri installed gir1.2-messagingmenu-1.0 but im thinking that was either not right.. or i have to start it.. which if starting it is the case i have no idea how15:20
ThinkT510zilkomaa: no problems whatsoever15:21
ozcanesenapt-get can't find python-xlib on raring, any idea why?15:21
histol057c0d3r: What error are you getting with cairo-dock?15:21
OTIhello, i upgraded 12.04 to 12.10 and now my internet connection refuses to work. the top right icon says i'm online but i can't open any pages with browser nor ping via terminal. (wired connection)15:21
l057c0d3rthe messaging service did not reply..  please make sure it is installed correctly15:21
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l057c0d3rand in there docks. it said that it is already installed in ubuntu.. i thought that maybe it was just missing on lubuntu.. and i could simply install it15:22
l057c0d3rerr doc's15:22
l057c0d3rbut no clue what i'm supposed to install15:22
histol057c0d3r: No dependancies should be pulled if you installed cairo-dock from software center.15:22
zilkomaaThinkT510, You play bluray (.mkv) movies without no problems?15:22
ThinkT510zilkomaa: never tried15:23
njd002heeeeey good morning!15:23
compdocheeeeey isnt here15:23
l057c0d3rbasicly im trying to install ubuntu/unity messsaging system on lubuntu..  just dont know what packages to install15:23
dw-OTI: are you running ubuntu on virtualbox15:23
OTIno, normal desktop15:24
zilkomaaThinkT510, What u do with ubuntu then? just hangin?15:24
njd002so silly question...again.. :P does ubuntu acknowledge TPM and if i create bare metal image into qcow2 that is tpm encrypted i cannot pass tpm through libvirt to the vm can i ?15:24
OTIdw-:  tried to connect my computer with a phone, that didn't work either15:25
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ThinkT510zilkomaa: music, movies, browsing, chat, printing15:25
l057c0d3rThinkT510, don't forget games :-P  ryzome runs great..  realms online..  diablo II with wine15:25
MonkeyDustzilkomaa  ubuntu has some more features than just playing bluray15:25
ThinkT510l057c0d3r: not much of a gamer sorry15:26
njd001be right back...15:26
histol057c0d3r: How did you install cairo-dock?15:26
l057c0d3rthrough the software center15:27
threex5Is there a way to get nautilus preferences back on gnome fallback?15:27
threex5I like to be able to single-click folders, instead of double-click15:27
histol057c0d3r: then you should have everything needed to run cairo-dock15:27
mstentaI'm looking for recommendations for a decent Ultrabook that works with Ubuntu… any thoughts out there? :-)15:27
MonkeyDustthreex5  edit15:27
MonkeyDustthreex5  edit, preferences, behaviour15:28
zilkomaaMonkeyDust, Like what vs other platforms?15:28
histol057c0d3r: maybe ask in #cairo-dock  They may be able to explain the error.15:28
zilkomaaMonkeyDust, and i dont mean hacking15:28
threex5ah, excellent15:28
threex5thanks so much15:28
MonkeyDustzilkomaa  pc's can be used for several different things, each uses the programs he needs or likes15:28
dw-OTI: system settings -> Network is Airplane mode on?  Not sure that works for wired connects...15:29
zilkomaaMonkeyDust, yeah sure with slower pc's linux is fine..15:29
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threex5MonkeyDust (and whomever), do you know how to enable shadows/compositing in metacity, in gnome fallback? I read that if you don't want to use compositing, you can still use shadows in gnome classic (no effects).15:29
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OTIdw, where do you find that one?15:30
MonkeyDustthreex5  no, i don't like/use eyecandy very much15:30
l057c0d3rzilkomaa..  i haven't touched windows in such a long time....   i can do all i need from linux.. including games/steam/netflix(which dosn't work perfectly but meh)15:30
dw-OTI: toolbar username > system settings > Network15:31
l057c0d3rzilkomaa, and this is not a slow pc.. it is a very nice computer....15:31
OTIdw, Network found but airplane?  :O15:31
Allan_guys. is this the right kernel module for an ati sound device? http://pastebin.com/fi4TF9gK15:32
OTIdw, i have two options, wired and network proxy15:32
dw-OTI: its at the top15:32
zilkomaal057c0d3r, heh ok games run smooth ?15:32
dw-OTI: prob wireless only :P15:33
histo!ati | zilkomaa15:33
ubottuzilkomaa: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto15:33
dw-OTI: maybe a driver :(15:33
l057c0d3ri play skyrim.. just fine..15:33
phoenixsampraswhy using exfat makes the computer slow ?!????15:33
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OTIdw, yep maybe for wireless because no airplane found15:34
njd001back :)15:34
phoenixsamprasHow to disable Compiz???15:34
MonkeyDustphoenixsampras  unity is a compiz plugin15:35
ThinkT510phoenixsampras: if you are on unity it would be a bad idea to disable compiz15:35
nyRednekok, i'm having an issue getting afterstep to appear in the lightdm menu15:36
histoThinkT510: does unity2d use compiz?  Ofcourse he would only be able to do that in 12.0415:36
ThinkT510histo: no, it uses metacity15:36
dw-OTI: ping 8.8.8.8 works /15:36
dw-OTI: could be dns15:37
phoenixsamprasoh shit... then i dont want Unity... i want gnome15:37
phoenixsamprashow to install decent gnome? i dont need effects or other stuff15:37
ozetteI've reached the point to where my windows e.g. "File", "Edit", "View" et al show empty boxes, how can I get them to show their options again15:37
OTIdw, yes that ping 8.8.8.8 works for some reason15:37
dw-OTI: dns servers are messed up15:37
l057c0d3rphoenixsampras, or lubuntu??  lxde is amazing15:38
OTIwhat's dns15:38
MonkeyDustdomain name service15:38
dw-OTI: they convert hostname.com to IP for connection15:38
histophoenixsampras: what version of uubntu are you using?15:38
OTIso is this problem in my end or someone's else?15:38
dw-OTI: so host google.com will fail etc15:39
phoenixsamprashisto: 1215:39
phoenixsamprasl057c0d3r: damn.. that means i need to reinstall?15:39
phoenixsamprasthis unity stuff is crap, where is gnome?15:39
dw-OTI: its your config or router/ISP15:40
OTIi have this computer and the problem one in same router, and this one's connection works fine15:40
MonkeyDustphoenixsampras  install some other DE, logout, select DE, login15:40
ThinkT510!gnome2 | phoenixsampras15:40
ubottuphoenixsampras: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot). See !notunity for an alternative desktop experience.15:40
l057c0d3runity is not bad.. just a little more resource hungry... there is a unity2d option15:40
histonyRednek: Isn't afterstep dead?15:40
phoenixsamprasoh cool, where is that unity2d ?15:40
l057c0d3rat login screen you can choose to use it instead..15:40
histophoenixsampras: 12 what?15:40
histophoenixsampras: cat /etc/issue15:40
MonkeyDustphoenixsampras  12.04 or 12.1015:40
phoenixsampraswhere it says?15:41
dw-OTI: some report sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/backup.resolv.conf fixes it15:42
phoenixsamprasubuntu 12.1015:42
phoenixsamprasive loged out, but i cant find a menu where to chose unity 2d ?15:42
l057c0d3rbah.. was reading online and it sais here that it was removed from 12.1015:43
histophoenixsampras: yeah it's not availibel on 12.1015:43
MonkeyDustphoenixsampras  maybe you have to install it first15:43
phoenixsamprasoh dammit15:43
phoenixsamprashow to install it?15:43
MonkeyDustand mind your language15:43
l057c0d3rand that unity now uses llvmpipe for people that do not have enough resources to run unity..  which would make unity run like unity2d did15:43
ThinkT510phoenixsampras: you don't install unity2d on 12.1015:43
zilkomaai love win715:44
l057c0d3rso one unity for everyone now15:44
phoenixsamprasomg... then how i can get a decent gnome?15:44
zilkomaaand subutex15:44
zilkomaaand ssd drivers15:44
zilkomaaand ssd drives15:44
histophoenixsampras: well there is gnome shell and gnome mate  ?15:45
histozilkomaa: please join #windows then15:45
zilkomaaima geek and have no friends or girlfriends whatsoever15:45
ActionParsnipzilkomaa: want a cookie?15:45
phoenixsamprassudo apt-get install full-gnome3-experience15:45
ThinkT510zilkomaa: poor dude, but this is ubuntu support15:45
l057c0d3rphoenixsampras, check this page out15:45
l057c0d3rhttp://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu15:45
ActionParsnip!info full-gnome3-experience15:45
ubottuPackage full-gnome3-experience does not exist in quantal15:45
DJoneszilkomaa: Thats your business, the channel is only interested in Ubuntu support15:45
l057c0d3rsudo apt-get install lxde15:46
l057c0d3r:-)15:46
zilkomaasudo apt-get working gpu-drivers15:46
ActionParsnipl057c0d3r: could just install openbox and ditch the desktop environment all together15:46
ahungryhi all, I have a server running the old ubuntu 7.04, at this moment a reinstall of a current distro isn't possible, however due to an rsync issue I need to upgrade rsync to any version over 3.0.7, I see lucid lynx has that version15:46
ahungryhow would I go about installing a versino of rsync from a newer distro on an older one15:46
histo!gnome3 | phoenixsampras15:46
ubottuphoenixsampras: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based.  To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources.15:46
phoenixsamprasouch...15:46
l057c0d3rActionParsnip, yeah....  but he was asking for gnome 2 so i figured he wanted a taskbar15:46
ThinkT510ahungry: you don't15:47
ActionParsnipahungry: Gutsy is EOL, plese upgrade to a newer release15:47
phoenixsamprasomg...15:47
ThinkT510ahungry: get a supported release15:47
histophoenixsampras: What?15:47
phoenixsamprasso i dont have unity2d, nor gnome3....15:47
l057c0d3rand zilkomaa my ati drivers work fine15:47
l057c0d3rand have catalyst control center on here as well15:47
phoenixsamprasi just want the old fashion gnome15:47
histo!ati > zilkomaa15:47
ubottuzilkomaa, please see my private message15:47
ThinkT510phoenixsampras: gnome2 is dead, move on15:47
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: then install gnome-panel, log off and log in to the new session15:47
histo!mate | phoenixsampras15:47
l057c0d3rno you can get gnome 315:47
MonkeyDustphoenixsampras  getting used to unity is faster than shouting and complaining for hours on end15:48
ThinkT510phoenixsampras: my favourite is xfce15:48
phoenixsampraswell i like unity... just is hell SLOW.... unusable15:48
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: I suggest xfce if you like the 2 panel desktop style15:48
zilkomaajb15:48
zilkomaaubottu, thnx15:48
histo!notunity | phoenixsampras15:48
ubottuphoenixsampras: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic15:48
phoenixsamprashow to install nvidia drives?15:48
zilkomaabot15:48
histo!nvidia > phoenixsampras15:49
ubottuphoenixsampras, please see my private message15:49
l057c0d3rphoenixsampras, have youj installed graphics drivers?15:49
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: if its a switchable GPU, you need bumblebee15:49
histophoenixsampras: it could be slow because your not using nvidia propriatary drivers.15:49
phoenixsamprasActionParsnip: is a laptop15:49
phoenixsamprascore i7 vaio15:49
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: if your CPU has a sandy/ivy bridge, then its switchable15:49
l057c0d3rActionParsnip, heh now you lost me too :-p15:50
phoenixsamprasActionParsnip: how to know if its sandy?15:50
histol057c0d3r: some laptops can switch between the sandy bridge display and nvidia to save power.15:50
phoenixsamprasoh, then i suppose is switchable15:51
l057c0d3roh15:51
phoenixsamprashowever, where is restricted drivers are available. ?15:51
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ThinkT510phoenixsampras: under software sources15:51
histol057c0d3r: It's the most useless thing I've ever seen. They should just make a low power consuming nvidia card for laptops.15:51
histophoenixsampras: in the settings15:51
l057c0d3rhisto, but but.. i play games on my lappy :-p let it pull power... i need the resources lol15:52
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phoenixsamprasall the docs seems outdated15:52
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: what is the full model of the system?15:52
histophoenixsampras: What docs?15:52
l057c0d3rphoenixsampras, go to software center..  click properties / settings...  click software sources tab..15:52
histol057c0d3r: doesn't need to do that for nvidia drivers.15:52
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: you can also check with:  sudo lshw -C display     if you see an Intel GPU too, then its switchable15:52
ThinkT510phoenixsampras: ubuntu isn't that great at keeping the wiki up to date15:52
histoThinkT510: the comunity isn't that great you mean.15:53
ThinkT510histo: indeed15:53
ActionParsnipThinkT510: its a wiki, so YOU can update it if you wish15:53
phoenixsamprasproduct: GT216 [GeForce GT 330M]15:53
phoenixsamprasNo Intel on sight15:53
histoThinkT510: this page is less than a month old https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia15:54
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: cool, no problem then :)15:54
histoThinkT510: that's the link I sent him.15:54
phoenixsamprasActionParsnip: im installing NVIDIA Xorg driver... tested15:54
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     reboot to test15:54
OTIif i ping 74.125.143.94 i get response back but however ping www.google.fi doesn't work. that ip is for www.google.fi. does this tell something?15:54
phoenixsamprasActionParsnip: okis, cancelling last action15:55
ikoniaOTI: your dns is not working15:55
l057c0d3rheh..  well on this lappy.. i had to install pulseaudio in lubuntu.. to get sound working :-/15:55
MonkeyDustOTI  it means it's a DNS issue15:55
histoOTI: yes your DNS is not working15:55
dw-OTI: check the private msg.. try at prompt: sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/backup.resolv.conf15:55
ActionParsnipl057c0d3r: i see that quite a lot, very weird15:55
llutzdw-: that will break dns completly15:55
threex5so i read that gnome classic is going to be phased out. for those of you who refuse to use unity, what do you plan to do?15:55
phoenixsamprasActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current15:56
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ActionParsnipOTI: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null15:56
histoOTI: can you please tell us what is in /etc/resolv.conf  for nameservers15:56
l057c0d3rActionParsnip, i think it had something to do with the hdmi port exts..15:56
ikoniaOTI: ignore what dw- said15:56
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras: sudo apt-get update15:56
l057c0d3rerr ext...  and alsa wanting to use it and not the speakers on the lappy...15:56
ikonianame servers are 127.01.1.15:56
ikoniaubuntu uses dnamasq now by default15:56
ThinkT510threex5: do you have a support issue?15:56
dw-multiple people say it works @ http://tinyurl.com/cud6ec215:56
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l057c0d3rand alsamixer would not let me switch to the other device...  didn't even show it in the list15:56
ActionParsnipl057c0d3r: even in F6?15:57
l057c0d3ryep15:57
ikoniadw-: dw- blindly doing it is bad15:57
ActionParsnipOTI: use the command I gave and get fully updated, may help15:57
vltHello. I want to trigger a script by an email arriving. Any idea how to solve this? What tools does Ubuntu offer for such a task?15:57
threex5ThinkT510, I guess not.15:58
threex5nevermind15:58
ActionParsnipvlt: which email client?15:58
ikoniavlt: you'll need your MTA to do that, or your delivery agent to do it15:58
histoikonia: How is dnsmasq configured then?15:58
ikoniahisto: it's very annoying15:58
phoenixsamprasquantal is the god of cows for mexicans?15:58
l057c0d3rActionParsnip, i take that back.... it would show the generic and the hdmi.. but no matter what i did.. unmute increase levels.. no sound came out15:58
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histoikonia: isn't resolvconfd  used still?15:59
ActionParsnipl057c0d3r: funky, its not a massive overhead which is a bonus15:59
ikoniahisto: it points all your requests via librsolver to 127.0.1.1, then runs dnsmasq on that local address15:59
ikoniahisto: that I don't know without looking15:59
dw-OTI: youll get it soon :) later15:59
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histoikonia: yeah resolvconf  is still installed15:59
ikoniahisto: still used though16:00
histoikonia: you can still specify nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head16:00
ActionParsnipOTI: does my command help?16:00
ikoniahisto: mega16:00
l057c0d3rActionParsnip, yeah.. i love lubuntu..  but it has tons of glitches with it..  network manager error... (simple workaround) sound error (simple workaround)..  now this messenger service.....  but oh well..  easier then my gentoo/fluxbox setup i use on my desktop to maintain though16:00
vltActionParsnip: Completely undefined. If possible I would like a non GUI solution. Is there a cli email client that can hold a connection to an IMAP account and instantly react (like Thunderbird does)?16:00
histoikonia: mega?16:00
threex5actually, I do have a question: In gnome, alt+right-click used to resize windows but it doesn't work in gnome fallback. is there a way to bring this back16:00
threex5?16:00
ikoniahisto: "great"16:00
histol057c0d3r: /j #lubuntu16:01
threex5also it would be nice to program other key commands but this isn't in preferences anymore16:01
ActionParsnipvlt: there is gmail watcher (similar for generic emails) and you can tell it to run a command and make a noise on new emails16:01
vltActionParsnip: Sounds great16:01
histovlt: mutt16:01
ActionParsniphisto:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is generated (cat the file)16:02
histovlt: although what do you mean by instantly react?16:02
histoActionParsnip: No it isn't16:02
histoActionParsnip: That's the head of the /etc/resolv.conf  file16:02
ActionParsniphisto: cat the file, you'll see16:02
ActionParsniphisto: cat  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head16:02
histoActionParsnip: No it's not16:02
histoActionParsnip: how do you think that message gets at the head of /etc/resolv.conf16:02
histoActionParsnip: from that file16:02
xanguathreex5: don't you mean alt+middle button¿16:03
OTIhisto, cat /etc/resolv.conf gives nameserver 8.8.8.816:03
ActionParsniphisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589964/16:03
histoOTI: now ping google.fi16:03
histoActionParsnip: Perhaps you don't understand.16:03
threex5xangua, thank you. In mate it was right click16:03
vlthisto: Thunderbird, for example, shows me the “new mail” popup in the very moment a new email arrives on the server.16:03
llutzActionParsnip: that is the part being copied into /etc/resolv.conf16:03
ActionParsniphisto: the file is made, you can edit the base file without issue16:03
threex5i thought it was the case in gnome 2 as well. it seems that some key bindings have changed subtly16:03
OTIActionParsnip: that echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null didn't do anything, nothing visual at least16:03
histoActionParsnip: No you're not getting it16:04
BluesKajhisto, cat works here shows the nameservers, domain and search16:04
ActionParsnipOTI: it doesn't, that's why I used /dev/null :)16:04
llutzActionParsnip: you can edit all those files without issues, they will be copied and build "/etc/resolv.conf"16:04
histoActionParsnip: the resolvconf  package generates the /etc/resolv.conf from the head and base16:04
ActionParsnipOTI: you can now run:   sudo apt-get update    and be ok16:04
ActionParsniphisto: llutz: I see, I'd leave the header alone, the base is much neater16:04
OTIhisto, ping www.google.fi works but no pages open16:05
histoActionParsnip: The head is just a commented message16:05
ActionParsnipOTI: can you get updates now?16:05
histoOTI: ping doesn't open pages16:05
llutzActionParsnip: to override networkmanager you'll have to edit head, not base, to get your entries first16:05
ActionParsniphisto: gotcha16:05
l057c0d3rhmm i was thinking about droping xcompmgr and installing compiz.. but wouldnt that replace openbox?16:05
ActionParsnipl057c0d3r: yes as both are window managers16:06
l057c0d3rthats what i thought16:06
ActionParsnipl057c0d3r: you can run just compiz on its own16:06
histoActionParsnip: after editing you also have to restart resolvconf16:06
ActionParsniphisto: true16:06
OTIhisto, ActionParsnip, thanks after that sudo apt-get update network is back, thank you :)16:06
ActionParsnipOTI: yay16:06
histoOTI: although I fear your dns is only fixed temporarily16:07
ActionParsnipOTI: get fully updated then reboot, the edit to resolv.conf is not permanent but the updates may make it ok16:07
OTIActionParsnip: get fully updated? means check latest update via software update or what?16:08
Blacklite_hello16:08
ActionParsnipOTI: just run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:09
nullby7ehow its working video ati 5xxx with ubuntu 12.10?16:09
ActionParsnipOTI: software centre is too slow for my tastes :)16:09
nullby7eabout video drivers16:09
Blacklite_I'm a quite advanced linux user (2years with various distros) and I'd like to give back to the community by offering advice to Linux Newbies, where should I go?16:09
ActionParsnipnullby7e: should be ok, 12.10 hates 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx16:09
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu16:10
DJones!contribute | Blacklite_16:10
ubottuBlacklite_: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu16:10
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: http://askubuntu.com   (if memory serves)16:10
Blacklite_I didn't necessarily mean with ubuntu16:10
ChaorainHey, I'm getting an error, "Dependency not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.15)" im on Ubuntu 10.04 and can't upgrade because my computer is ancient. I have libc6 version 2.11.1-0 installed. is there an easy way to fix this?16:10
Blacklite_although that is where most newbies go.16:11
nullby7eActionParsnip: why 12.10 when i install manual drivers by nvidia.com GUI shows nothing I mean only wallpaper becouse 650ti geforce not works well with default drivers in 12.1016:11
Tribaalhi all, does 13.04 xstart break from other testers?16:11
xangua!13.04 | Tribaal16:11
ubottuTribaal: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+116:11
nullby7eActionParsnip: when i startx with manual driver it shows only wallpaper nothing other16:11
Blacklite_Chaorain: compile libc6 from source16:11
nullby7eActionParsnip: the same and with new custom build kernel16:11
ActionParsnipnullby7e: try installing xfce4 package, then log in to the xfce session16:11
nullby7eActionParsnip: ok what about kernel?16:12
ActionParsnipnullby7e: we can't support home compiled kernels16:12
nullby7eok16:13
MarkShuttleworthMY NAME IS MARK SHUTTLEWORTH16:13
MarkShuttleworthAND I AM YOUR GOD16:13
MonkeyDustcaps16:13
MarkShuttleworthI AM FULLY IN SUPPORT OF AMAZON ADS16:13
DJonesMarkShuttleworth: sTOP TROLLING16:13
MarkShuttleworthAND I AM ALSO A HOMOSEXUAL16:13
nullby7ehahahaaha16:13
kostkon...16:14
OTIActionParsnip: after sudo apt-get update && upgrade && dist-upgrade && reboot network is doing fine, thank you16:14
RabblerouserSo I installed the ATI Catalyst official Linux drivers for my GPU... but now it seems to want to default to nothing but 4:3 resoluitons16:16
RabblerouserAnyone able to helps?16:17
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threex5How do i edit or create custom keybindings in gnome fallback?16:17
ActionParsnipOTI: even after a reboot?16:17
ActionParsnipRabblerouser: what is the GPU and which release?16:18
RabblerouserUbuntu 12.10 and ATI Radeon HD 467016:18
ActionParsnipRabblerouser: the Xorg in 12.10 doesn't run well on 4xxx ATi GPUs.16:18
RabblerouserIt also seems to make Unity not work16:18
ActionParsnipRabblerouser: there is a legacy PPA you can use16:18
RabblerouserI take it this is soemthign that won't be fixed in later Ubuntus.16:20
ActionParsnipRabblerouser: http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/16:20
Blacklite_I want to create a bare-bones system for playing minecraft on as fast as possible, what programs would you guys suggest?16:20
ActionParsnipRabblerouser: use the Tomasz Makarewicz PPA16:20
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: ubuntu minimal, fluxbox, wicd, slim16:20
Blacklite_ActionParsnip: I like the way you think16:21
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: if you use a wired link, you won't even need wicd16:21
Blacklite_It's offline.16:21
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: then you won't need it if there is no network access needed16:22
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: then grab java from the java ppa and you are off16:22
RabblerouserI'm just curious if in sometime in the future, I would have to use the terminal to get this driver working right.16:22
Blacklite_that's pretty simple.16:22
Blacklite_is there a tool I can use for building a custom ubuntu iso?16:22
Blacklite_inb4 uck16:23
OTIActionParsnip: yes even after reboot16:23
u_OLtornadoes coming, wish me luck lol.  bbl hopefully ;D16:24
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch16:24
ActionParsnipOTI: good, then its fixed fixed16:24
OTI:)16:24
threex5a lot of preferences are missing. For instance, how do I add a printer now? Is there a way I can get basic preferences back in gnome fallback?16:25
RabblerouserThere is a temp fix if you have seperate wms installed, though, when you ahve the graphics issues. :D16:25
sunguoyaojion in then out16:25
Psycho_MantisHey everybody16:25
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xanguathreex5: i see the printer settings in unity and in system center16:26
Blacklite_ActionParsnip: that was so helpful that I almost cried.16:26
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: its fun to make your own. I just use minimal and build up (after removing the pre-release bloat I usually have)16:27
threex5system settings. I see. thank you16:27
Blacklite_yeah bloatware sucks16:27
MonkeyDustgeeks... ;)16:28
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: there's just a lot of stuff in a default OS which I don't use. I'm using xpud more and more these days16:28
Blacklite_xpud?16:28
Blacklite_sorry for my ignorance, I'm usually a slackware user16:28
ross`what does ubuntu use for flash?16:29
ActionParsnipBlacklite_: a very quick to boot limited OS. Pretty much just a browser and a torrent client16:29
ross`is there a package for it?16:29
ActionParsnipross`: there are options16:29
ross`ActionParsnip: i want whatever is similar to debian flashplugin-nonfree16:29
ActionParsnipross`: you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get flash16:29
Blacklite_ActionParsnip: nice16:29
Blacklite_ross: also you could install flashplugin-installer and it's quicker16:30
ross`do i need to add universe to apt16:30
ross`or anything16:30
Blacklite_no16:30
ross`i'm using liveusb, my harddrive crashed16:30
mimirhi, i have a weird problem with my logitech unify mouse... after i restart i have to remove the unify dongle from the USB3 port and reinsert several times before mouse works... any ideas?16:30
ross`E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-installer16:30
ross`yes i did apt-get update16:30
Blacklite_ross: then do apt-get upgrade16:31
ActionParsnip!flash | ross`16:31
ubottuross`: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash16:31
Blacklite_ActionParsnip: those are never useful16:31
mimirross`: you want to install flash ?16:31
ross`yea, nonfree16:32
ActionParsnipI just install Chrome, all is well.16:32
ross`or what debian considers flashplugin-nonfree, whatever is the closest to that16:32
Blacklite_how do I copy the isolinux bootloader binary? where is it?16:32
mimirross`: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-native-64bit-flash-player-11-on-linux.html i've done a tutorial a while ago... but these days it just works for me...16:32
Blacklite_flashplugin-installer16:32
threex5When I try to install a printer, I get "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall"16:32
mimirross`: you might have to find the latest download URLs16:32
ross`Blacklite_: that doesn't exist in default apt sources16:33
Blacklite_ross: ?16:33
ozcanesenmy Gtk app is transparent in 12.04 but not transparent in =>12.10, anybody wants to help me?16:33
threex5I tried to run system-config-printer from a terminal but command wasn't found16:33
ross`apt-get install or apt-cache search says there is no flashplugin-installer16:33
zykotick9ActionParsnip: you use Chrome and DDG... odd. </ot>16:33
ActionParsnipzykotick9: yeah, change the search engine in settings and off you go16:34
lorenChannel list (freenode) hangs.  Will not scroll list.16:34
Blacklite_ross: that's because it's a metapackage16:34
Blacklite_*derp16:34
ActionParsnipross`: the restricted-extras will install flash for you16:34
RabblerouserBah.. how do I remove the proprietary AMD driver? it apparently isn't located in /usr/share/fglrx16:34
ross`ActionParsnip: how do i install restricted extras from cli16:34
ross`unity is giving me a heart attac16:34
ross`attack16:34
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threex5nevermind I ran it again and it worked16:37
ActionParsnipross`: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras16:37
ross`you guys needed to tell me to add multiverse...16:38
RabblerouserNm. Found it. It wasn't in /usr/share/fglrx, it was in /usr/share/fglrx/ati16:38
ross`i asked if i needed to change my apt sources, and you said no16:38
RabblerouserOr not16:39
MK``how do I flush my DNS cache on ubuntu?16:40
MonkeyDustMK``  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html16:41
^chris>2012++16:41
^chris>using ubuntu16:41
MK``thanks16:41
^chrisno problem16:41
lorenRunnng File Roller 3.4.1 in Ubuntu 12.04.  Want to send archive file to Samba file.  The file displays in Nautilus, but can't see as a destination in Archive Manager.  Need help.16:41
MonkeyDustMK``  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112716916:42
memand1MK``: flush dns cache ubuntu16:42
memand1MK``: http://bit.ly/14rUkjA16:42
ActionParsnipross`: I never replied to the question personally, wasn't aware it was needed either. Sorry16:42
MK``memand1 we're not all antisocial :P16:43
ross`ActionParsnip: not blaming you, i expect this level of gui on support from ubuntu.16:43
memand1MK``: I know, but come on ;)16:43
zykotick9MonkeyDust: those links are hilarious.  to "flush cache" you need to restart a daemon that isn't installed by default...  i don't think that really makes sense, do you?16:43
MK``yeah really16:43
MonkeyDustmemand1  please do not use that link here, it's rude16:43
ActionParsnipross`: not unreasonable16:43
MK``Just trying to get pidgin to work again X)16:43
DJones!google > memand116:44
ubottumemand1, please see my private message16:44
ActionParsnipMK``: I love pidgin16:44
ross`ActionParsnip: personally i prefer the cli for package installation, so i asked the proper question which source do i need. The answer which the GUI told me was multiverse.16:44
memand1Ok, I'm soooory :(16:44
ActionParsnipross`: yeah the reply when stuff needs extra sources isn't great, although the package-not-found reply for available packages is pretty coolio16:44
piglitwhat is a good program to Anallise where your disk space is going ?16:44
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ross`ActionParsnip: yea, but it didn't have a suggestion for this particular package16:45
ActionParsnipGitNick: seacrch in dash for disk analyser16:45
ross`it just said didn't exist16:45
DJonespiglit: Disk usage analyser16:45
ActionParsnipross`: d'oh16:45
ross`thank you for your help tho16:45
ActionParsnipross`: I try, thanks for being cool16:45
piglitok thanks16:45
zykotick9piglit: from terminal, ncdu is kinda handy16:45
ross`ActionParsnip:16:45
ross`oops16:46
ross`afk16:46
MK``apparently this works: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean16:46
phoenixsampras1hi?16:47
phoenixsampras1jezz ubuntu mirros kinda slow16:47
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras1: tried a different source?16:48
zermHey. My freshly set-up system keeps crashing/freezing/rebooting. I'd like to figure out the cause for this, so16:49
zermhow can i enable kernel debugging? i do not want automatic reboot. i want a kernel debugger console or whatever16:49
ActionParsnipzerm: I suggest you test RAM using Memtest86+ from Grub as a starting point#16:49
zermif linux/ubuntu kills a process (happened before because heavy swapping), does it log this action somewhere?16:50
hilohello I've got a remote Ubuntu Desktop headless system which I access with VNC. The resolution on the remote DT is 800x600 and I cannot get it to go higher making many programs unusable. Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher on a headless Ubuntu Desktop (32 bit 10.04)16:50
phoenixsampras1apt-get upgrade-distro aint working16:50
zermActionParsnip, I suspect the heavy I/O I am doing with a SAS controller/network that this might cause the problem16:50
zykotick9zerm: a process could die (check it's logs) but the kernel isn't going to "kill" anything unless you ask it too.16:51
uplinxphoenixsampras1, apt-get dist-upgrade16:51
phoenixsampras1uplinx: thanks!16:51
uplinxphoenixsampras1, np16:51
zermzykotick9, that's what i thought. but that's not happening. e.g. i had a python process where I had a bug causing severe memory consumption. after 5 minutes swapping, the process miriculously terminated without any notice. maybe that's python's behavior, though16:52
ActionParsnipphoenixsampras1: if you read the man page rather than trying to guess commands, you'll win16:52
zykotick9zerm: that's not the kernel killing it...16:53
phoenixsampras1i need to develop 2 more eyes16:53
zermright now my load went up to 9, which cpu was aroun .3 -- that might be fine because it does a lot i/o waiting. but suddenly, the whole computer froze, and then rebooted itself16:53
zerms/which/with16:53
wjtaylor_where is the window manager settings in 12.04?   I want to enable roll-up. (Gnome classic)16:53
threex5is there a key command in gnome to pop open a nautilus window?16:54
zermzykotick9, ok, might be python itself then. thanks.16:54
zermbut i definitely do not want an automatic reboot, for no reason, never. who did this to me?16:54
Kurukurutest16:56
KurukuruAre there any distros which use usplash by default? I want to install Ubuntu on an EEEPC 904HD I have but I don't like Plymouth and I have a Usplash theme I want to use16:57
ActionParsnip!info usplash16:57
ubottuPackage usplash does not exist in quantal16:57
ActionParsnipKurukuru: why do you care so much, its a boot splash....16:58
KurukuruJust a customisation freak16:58
piglitis virtualbox still the firtual machine to use or is it a other one at this time?16:58
ActionParsnipthreex5: you could use compiz to run the command when you press a shortcut combo16:58
fogobogopiglit: depends on what you want/need16:58
memandzerm: If you have some python code that goes into a infinite loop that eats memory and the interpreter for some reasson does not catch that it is an unhealty loop if can cause the system to freeze, and I guess in some casses reboot (on my system it just logged out)16:58
ActionParsnippiglit: what is 'firtual'?16:58
piglitfogobo: well first of all i need a easy install as i dont have much time16:59
pigliti need to test some labview things in XP16:59
piglitand it would be great if i could use usb16:59
zermmemand, well. i think i have fixed that issue with the python script. still, it should never ever reboot my machine16:59
fogobogothen try vbox16:59
piglitbut if it takes too much time i can do without usb17:00
lorddeltarespectfully...what is the issue with python-aptdaemon?17:00
MonkeyDustpiglit  I have XP in virtualbox, runs nice17:00
memandzerm: I agree...17:00
piglitfogobogo: vbox ?= virtualbox?17:00
ActionParsnippiglit: the vbox from the vbox repo has usb access17:00
lorddeltaA bunch of packages were complaining about it this morning; I just ended up building the package I wanted to and installing it manually...17:00
fogobogopiglit: yes17:00
ActionParsnippiglit: yes vbox = virtualbox17:00
lorddeltaNo problems so far.17:00
piglitok thanks you guys are great17:00
zermnothing in /var/log/kernel.log -- just a (super fast, at least) reboot17:00
piglitI can also import virtual machines i have from vmware ?17:01
MonkeyDustpiglit  vmdk yes, import17:01
ActionParsnippiglit: i'd ask in #vmware, I'd imagine so17:01
zermhumm "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#2 stuck for 21s! [Xorg:1183]" what is that?!17:02
luvs-lightw8I have a Toshiba Satellite A305D and the media touch keys do not work. This has not been an issue with other flavors of linux. I'm on peppermint. Any ideas?17:03
phoenixsampras1WTh is doing dist-upgrade... taking hours17:03
MonkeyDustluvs-lightw8  peppermint is not supported here17:03
luvs-lightw8Ok17:03
luvs-lightw8Thanks.17:03
phoenixsampras1its upgrading python and libreoffice.... again and again17:04
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blaamann_b570Is there a way I can see the crash report that is sent when Firefox crashes for me and the error send dialog appear asking me if I would send the crash report or not?17:11
memandzerm: Can I ask what you where trying to do in python to cause the crash?17:13
zermbasically just backup over network share to a SAS-connected tape drive17:14
lonewulf85Hello everyone I have a question about VMware player.17:14
zermcomputing hashes on the fly, there was my first bug (loaded files fully to memory first). but that's fixed and as long as the backup-source can keep up with the speed, it works just fine17:14
zermthe panics seem to be related to the BUG soft - lock CPU#2 stall17:15
lonewulf85I am wondering if I could run XP or Vista in it and have the silerlight capacity?17:15
mibofra_smarthi :)17:15
zermi mean, that looks like a panic. i'm not so super linux expert, i expected some big "PANIC" in a log17:15
zermstill, it reboots and does not dump the core. i wish i could prevent that17:16
zermbest would be to drop into kdb or whatever17:16
zermis there a sysctl or something?17:16
memandzerm: I'm not 100% sure what that BUG means, but it does not sound too good17:16
zermaccording to google, there was a bug in the linux kernel 3 years ago with that symtop/error message17:17
zermbut that's about it17:17
lonewulf85I am taking a PC class and for one site testout.com I need silverlight I was hoping I could run a VM as a work around.17:17
zermcould be related to APIC, I read, which makes sense as my interrupts get high and stuff. that SAS controller seams shitty as well17:18
jorik_рус есть?17:18
ThinkT510lonewulf85: yes, that would work17:18
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memandWell the Xorg 1183 msg might yield some more info17:18
lonewulf85ThinkT510: Thank you I was hoping I could I was just unsure as I have never done a Windows guest OS before.17:19
memandzerm: Are you sure that your computer actually rebooted, I mean did it show the bios boot screen and evertything?17:20
zermuptime told me17:20
zermssh connection dropped, i reconnected, uptime is low, all my previously running processes are gone17:21
zermdidnt want to walk all the stairs up to the computer, but been told that it presents the login screen17:21
zermso guess it rebooted17:21
jorik_чат на рус какой?17:22
memandI can't find anything yet on that Xorg error, but it sounds like the x server crashed17:22
memand!ru | jorik_17:22
ubottujorik_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.17:22
mibofra_smartAfter today upadate , I can't start lightdm . If try with lightdm-session , the error this time is : "x-session-manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_registry_interface17:22
mibofra_smartwhat should I do ?17:22
xinglenickhi, all17:23
mibofra_smartP.S. the terminal is running ubuntu RR dev branch17:24
ThinkT510!13.04 | mibofra_smart17:24
ubottumibofra_smart: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+117:24
xinglenickI use ubuntu 12.04, How can I find out the file which the env LC_LANGUAGE is set?17:25
zermso, sysctl kernel.panic controls after how many second it reboots after a panic. which somebody set to 0 which sucks17:25
mibofra_smartThinkT510: you're right :)17:25
belgianguyI'm trying to create a cronjob, but am getting mails from my server that the permission was denied17:25
belgianguy/bin/sh: 1: /home/public_html/mysite.com/public/cron/run.php: Permission denied17:25
belgianguydoes that mean the php file needs to be chmoded or that this should be sudo cronjob?17:26
memandbelgianguy: The file needs to be executable for anyone to execute it ;)17:27
teefsI am getting a weird...thing happening when I try to install haskell-mode, and after it is 'installed' it is broken.  I have tried cleaning the package and reinstalling, I don't know what else to try atm.  Any suggestions?  here is a log of the apt output...you can see the weird garbled crap: https://pastee.org/uf8jj17:27
belgianguymemand: ah, I'll check that, I had to turn them off as I was getting a mail every minute17:27
xinglenickgenerally, how to find out the file which a env variable is set?17:27
memandbelgianguy: chmod +x file.php17:28
memandzerm: I'm still having a hard time believing that it actually rebooted17:28
jribxinglenick: in general, with much frustration :)  What are you looking for?17:28
belgianguythanks memand17:29
zermmemand, yeah, can't help. it did. possibly that f*cking SAS controller because i had similar experiences on a different set-up before (but attributed it to some other reasons back then..)17:29
zermwill try with noapic boot flag17:31
zermand strict panicing17:31
memandzerm: does this happen often?17:31
zermwish me luck, will physically go to the box17:31
memandlol17:31
xinglenickmy LC_LANGUAGE was changed, and I want to know why it was  changed17:31
zermmemand, yeah pretty much. that's gonna be the backup managing machine, which makes it ver... delicate17:32
teefsshould I ask in emacs?  it says the package is maintained by ubuntu17:32
memandzerm: HAve you considered getting another motherboard for that machine then?17:33
jribteefs: did you check for bugs on the package at http://bugs.ubuntu.com?17:33
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teefsjrib: I couldn't find any like that17:34
teefsit's not saying it failed to install, it just spits out crap when it installs17:34
teefsand then if I load a .hs file, it does not parse correctly and that same stuff is in the minibuffer17:34
jribteefs: what same stuff?  lines 28-31?17:35
teefsjrib: yes17:36
memandxinglenick: Can you give some more details?17:36
hilohello I've got a remote Ubuntu Desktop headless system which I access with VNC. The resolution on the remote DT is 800x600 and I cannot get it to go higher making many programs unusable. Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher on a headless Ubuntu Desktop (32 bit 10.04)17:37
jribteefs: read haskell-site-file.el and see if anything looks weird?17:37
z_ermmemand, i'm not sure that it's related to the machine at all. more the SAS controller or tape drive, i guess. Had some (but only some) unexplainable reboots quite a while ago when using a completely different machine17:39
z_ermnow i've set all kernel.panic* sysctls to debugging values, disabled apic, rebooted. let's see. backup will take about 1-2 hours until crash/freeze17:40
xinglenickmemand: i set LC_LANGUAGE to en_US in /etc/default/locale file and ran update-locale, then reboot and login, but i still found the LC_LANGUAGE is set to zh_CN:en_US:en17:41
z_erm(i wonder how often i can write to the same tape until it wears out :D)17:41
* washuu_de is back (gone 42:28:46)17:42
z_ermout for dinner until next panic :) thanks guys and have a nice.. whatever you're having right now17:42
guide_XI have 11.04 and it won't update, i'm not sure how to fix it17:42
ThinkT510guide_X: 11.04 is no longer supported17:43
guide_Xthis is the endless loop it is in as well17:43
guide_Xit says it needs to update and isn't supported, but then can't update17:43
guide_Xis it not possible to update it or?17:43
ThinkT510guide_X: why didn't you upgrade to a newer release when it was supported?17:44
teefsjrib: I can't find anything, and ironically, haskell-site-file.el is parsed fine by emacs elisp mode :)17:44
teefsreally weird17:44
xanguaguide_X: open update manager and upgrade to 11.1017:44
guide_XI did not build it and have only started using it recently, it is a sort of dev/staging server17:44
guide_Xthats when it cannot update17:45
guide_Xit says the program closed unexpectedly17:45
jribteefs: you might try redownloading the deb (delete what you have in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ) and installing that to see if it makes a difference.  Might also check the various files for the package in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ .  And finally, you might checkout debsums.  I'm not really sure what's going on :)17:45
teefsjrib: okay thanks for suggestions.  I'll try those17:46
guide_Xjeez it was only april 2011 when it was released17:46
Castialwell question for anyone using Ubuntu-Gnome, I cant choose Gnome 2d from the login screen, how do I enable it for usage?17:47
guide_Xso isn't there something I can do? it's an important machine17:47
Castialgoogle seems to be useless here17:47
memandxangua: Try running locale -a17:47
memandand check to see that the locale you want is listed there17:48
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guest123hi17:48
xanguamemand: sure, when i know what are you talking about ;)17:48
xinglenickmemand: does it possible to find where LC_LANGUAGE is set ?17:49
ExxKAHey guys. Do you know how I can remove all the records in the resolv.conf file, using resolvconf?17:49
memandxangua: sorry wrong guy :P17:49
Castialwhy does it have to be so hard to enable gnome 2d shell17:49
memandxinglenick: : Try running locale -a17:49
Castialcan I please get some help17:49
memandand check to see that the locale you want is listed there17:49
guest123ExxKA, what is resolvconf17:51
ExxKAguest123, it is a script for editing /etc/resolv.conf with deals with DNS settings17:52
pan__Hi, how do I change the permission of mounts in /media/$user so that everyone can access them?17:52
ExxKApan__, look at your mount settings17:52
pan__ExxKA: it happens automatically17:53
pan__nautilus automount17:53
ExxKApan__, yes but the access rights and filesystem type is still configured in a mount setting file. I am not a regular ubuntu user, but check fstab17:53
ExxKA/etc/fstab17:53
pan__ExxKA: it's not in fstab because it's mounted at runtime17:54
pan__it's a usb stick17:54
Blacklite_is ActionParsnip still here?17:54
ExxKApan__, I don't know then17:57
jasuntoanyone have nvidia sli experience with ubuntu?17:58
itryGood Evening! When I do "cryptsetup remove x" it seems to return before it actually freed up x. So the rest of my script fails. Is there a way to make "cryptsetup remove" blocking or some other way to wait until it really finished?17:58
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MonkeyDustitry  what code/language?18:00
itryMonkeyDust: bash18:01
MonkeyDustitry  maybe the people in #bash can help better18:02
phoenixsamprashellowzor18:02
phoenixsamprasok, seems Nvidia drivers worked18:02
itryMonkeyDust: i can try. but its not really a bash question.18:03
phoenixsamprasa.. are you there?18:04
phoenixsamprasit s was a bro with the name A.....18:04
threex5is it still possible to set window buttons in gnome fallback? i went to configuration editor > apps > metacity > general > button_layout and tried to change the buttons but nothing happened, even when I logged out and back in.18:05
phoenixsampraswow 1846 people sleeping18:05
LuizAngiolettiWhere do I get reliable information about disks, partitions and fs's?18:05
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phoenixsamprashow to autostart apps, when i login?18:08
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phoenixsamprasaloha?18:08
contrapunctusphoenixsampras18:08
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phoenixsamprascontrapunctus: hi, how to autostart apps when i login?18:09
LuizAngiolettiphoenixsampras: there is an utility on the dashboard18:09
phoenixsamprasLuizAngioletti: what is the name?18:09
LuizAngiolettiphoenixsampras: I think is something like "session apps"... my system isn't in English, so...18:10
contrapunctusNot sure for Ubuntu but we have a Session and Startup option under Menu > Settings > Settings Manager in Xubuntu/UbuntuStudio18:10
phoenixsamprasStartup Apps!!!18:10
phoenixsamprasLuizAngioletti: thank you!!18:10
LuizAngiolettiphoenixsampras: there you go. =)18:10
Blacklite_i'm making an ubuntu remix from scratch. it includes openbox, tint2 and conky (not very creative, i Know,) and it's going to be meant for running Minecraft almost exclusively.  what programs would you suggest?18:10
LuizAngiolettiBlacklite_: I'd suggest *not* minecraft. It sucks the life out of you... =P18:11
Blacklite_that's not helpful;18:11
LuizAngiolettiBlacklite_: It wasn't meant to be. There is this thing called humor, you know?18:11
bozelol18:11
Blacklite_i understand18:11
phoenixsamprasaint Minecraft for skinheads?18:12
Blacklite_it's just not funny18:12
LuizAngiolettiBlacklite_: sorry then.18:12
contrapunctusCan someone please tell me how I may select and connect to a network from the CLI?18:12
Blacklite_it's quite alright.18:12
Blacklite_wifi-menu18:12
Blacklite_or ifup <interface>18:12
Blacklite_the interface is usually eth018:12
contrapunctuswifi-menu command not found, Blacklite_18:12
Blacklite_for ethernet.18:13
nuf0xx_or wlan018:13
contrapunctusI'm using mobile broadband...18:13
Blacklite_oh. srry, I was thinking about arch18:13
Blacklite_try ifup wlan018:13
uplinxanyone have any luck getting curlftpfs to automount with write privileges for normal users?18:14
contrapunctusifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: Permission denied18:14
nuf0xx_contrapunctus: see the output of "lspci | grep Network"18:14
jribcontrapunctus: nmcli18:14
Blacklite_jrib: good call18:14
nuf0xx_also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo18:14
contrapunctusnuf0xx_ - lspci | grep Network 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)18:15
Blacklite_I have the same one!!!18:15
Blacklite_brothers!!!!18:15
nuf0xx_contrapunctus: now iwconfig18:15
phoenixsamprasJezzz, UBUNTU is slo SLOW, when copying 114 Gb18:17
contrapunctusnuf0xx_ why do we need that?18:17
slashrunHello all, could someone tell me if ubuntu supports SSD hard drives out of the box.  Will I have to reconfigure it in someway to keep the drive from being prematurely worn out like I have to do in some cases on windows.18:17
phoenixsamprashow to decrease the CPU priority on file copying?18:17
bogi-phoenixsampras, ?? dont be such noob18:17
contrapunctusjrib's suggestion works. nmcli con to see your connection's UUID18:18
phoenixsamprasbogi-: sorry, im new with ubuntu 12.1018:18
contrapunctusnmcli con up uuid <uuid> or nmcli con up id <name> connects18:18
bogi-phoenixsampras, np...sry to be roode..just comming from ql channel18:18
bogi-phoenixsampras, u tried with simple mv command..try man mv18:19
phoenixsamprasql? quick lunch?18:19
phoenixsamprasbogi-: well im moving using nautilus i think18:19
bogi-phoenixsampras, no from quake :/18:19
nuf0xx_just making sure you card is configured18:19
threex5found it! In dconf-editor > org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences18:20
lorddeltaApart from the aptdaemon thing, I must say I'm happy with how stable this system has become since sticking to LTS release.18:20
kzolotarovgreetings!18:20
fomaI just did an apt-get on nmcli and it wasn't found, where can I get it?18:20
bogi-phoenixsampras, 114 gb is big chunk...try to get familiar with cli with all big operation's18:20
phoenixsamprasalright18:21
phoenixsamprascancelling the noob nautilis18:21
lorddeltaPerhaps I should be asking in dev channel about the aptdaemon issue?18:21
indierossslashrun, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html18:21
bogi-phoenixsampras, no it is not noob...just the graphical way is sometimes slow...but major concerns is speed of your dist18:22
bogi-phoenixsampras, disk^^^18:22
fomaWhat is this COD? calling people noobs?18:22
drag0niushow to change www-data user's umask?18:23
drag0niusi want to give group all permissions18:23
phoenixsamprasbogi-: ok did the MV stuff... waiting18:23
bogi-foma, i apoliggating for that18:23
bogi-foma, uh misspelled word...18:24
bogi-phoenixsampras, u get move that once in a year...18:25
slashrunindieross: This is exactly what I needed, thank you for your help.18:25
igneroushow to customize panel clock applet date over time in ubuntu 12.10?18:28
lorenCan't send archive file to Samba file18:28
teefsjrib: I found some strange ctl chars in the el files that I didn't see before, I removed them...is there a way to get these recompiled and installed without apt overwriting them?18:28
elijahHow do I find out the current version of Netbeans available in Ubuntu's repo? I am on 7.1.1 and 7.2 is available but I cannot get it through updates.18:30
tripelbGrub is not right. Now knows there are two systems on HD, but not about the third. And LiveCD cannot see any OS's on the HD. On boot I have the choice of windows or ububtu. The ububtu says incomplete install. How do I proceed?18:30
jribteefs: did you check if they are like that in a newly downloaded package?18:30
trismignerous: you want a custom datetime format in the clock indicator? you can configure that in dconf-editor, com/canonical/indicator/datetime custom-time-format, and setting time-format to custom18:30
* tripelb changes nick to help me**318:31
bogi-phoenixsampras, did u move file's?18:31
phoenixsamprasbogi-: slowly.... seems its moving18:31
igneroustrism: i want like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/how-to-customize-the-clock-applet-in-ubuntu18:32
elijahHow can I find out if I installed Netbeans via apt-get vs a manual install?18:32
bogi-phoenixsampras, ok..just leave it to finish it...it wont stuck..18:32
phoenixsamprasunable to remove target: Is a directory18:32
trismignerous: oh interesting, hadn't seen that, hmm, let me take a look18:33
neuroncan anyone help me out with18:33
neuron Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h18:33
neuronubuntu 12.0418:34
neurondesktop18:34
trismignerous: it would be the same method I describe above, just with that code, but I do not know if it strips tags now, it might18:34
tripelbelijah: guessing, use uparrow on terminal for command history.18:34
elijahtripelb: I installed it a year ago, I don't think my command history goes back that far ;)18:34
neuronhello18:34
neuron Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h18:34
trismignerous: yeah it seems to escape tags so that probably won't work anymore without modifying the source code18:35
igneroustrism: please can you do it18:35
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phoenixsamprasinstalling virtualbox...18:35
neurongreat18:35
phoenixsamprascoz kvm aint that good18:35
neuroncan anyone help me out18:35
neuron Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h18:36
neuroninstalling atheros driver18:36
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neuronethernet driver18:36
tripelbNeurondid you check your LiveCD, as in check the disk integrity at the first text screen. You get it by pressing enter at the first Ubuntu screen with the tinyn stuff below (I call it filmstrip=man in circle)18:36
compdockvm is excellent18:36
neuronok18:36
neuronhow does that hep me18:37
neuronhelp*18:37
compdocjust not for local graphics18:37
DJones!patience | neuron18:37
ubottuneuron: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/18:37
neuronsorry for that18:37
keith_For what reason would a package be available in Debian sid but removed in Quantal? I though Quantal was based on sid?18:37
phoenixsampraskvm was crashing...18:37
tripelbneuron: ask all on one line please, I have this situations, am using this Ubuntu, get this, want this... Capiche?18:37
neuronok will not make that mistake again18:38
phoenixsamprashelp me now!!18:38
phoenixsampraslol18:38
tripelbneuron: also ie you are talking to one person, we star the line with their nick so theey can see it in a busy chat. No blame, we all start as beginners.18:39
tripelb!ask | neuron18:39
ubottuneuron: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:39
igneroustrism: are you doing it??18:39
bogi-phoenixsampras, ??18:39
neurontripleb : thanks,  now i am checking it first  by live CD and let you guys know18:40
tripelbneuron: for instance I asked my question about grub and I am waiting.18:40
njd001missed something18:41
njd001i'll be bach18:41
keith_For what reason would a package be available in Debian sid but removed in Quantal? I though Quantal was based on sid?18:41
trismignerous: I am looking18:41
phoenixsamprasI have a problem... i get "Ubuntu has encountered a error... report??" every 10 mins18:43
phoenixsamprasinternal error18:43
LuizAngiolettiWhen using 'ldd' I get two different outputs. One has arrows and points to an address (like /lib/foo) and the other shows something like a hex code.18:47
LuizAngiolettiWhat does the hex code stands for? What does it mean?18:47
SolskogenHi! I want to install the 32bit version of libsdl-dev onto my 64bit ubuntu, is that possible with apt?18:48
jribSolskogen: yes, you can do that using multiarch18:49
jribSolskogen: what version of ubuntu?18:50
Solskogenjrib: 12.1018:50
bogi-jrib, TY ...i thought that some stuff i must compile by myself18:50
BrilliantMindTo install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track, is acceptable let the partition configuration to the system itself?18:51
Solskogenjrib: apt-get install libsdl-1.2:i386 will remove a WHOLE lot of stuff - so that is not an option18:51
jribSolskogen: umm, what would it remove exactly?18:51
kaserelsanamgood night18:51
BrilliantMindGreetings! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track, is acceptable let the partition configuration to the system itself?18:51
jribSolskogen: and why do you need this 32bit version by the way?18:51
kaserelsanam E: Unable to locate package udev-extra18:52
Solskogenjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590417/18:52
uplinxbasic question, does anyone know how to add to your places in nautilus?18:52
Solskogenjrib: I have an application that I want to compile for both 32bits ubuntu, and 64bits ubuntu. without the need of setting up an additional build machine.18:52
jribSolskogen: use pbuilder for that18:52
Solskogenjrib: that is an additional build machine.18:53
kaserelsanamhow to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well18:54
jribSolskogen: if you don't wish to use pbuild or similar, then you will have to figure out why apt wants to remove those packages when you install libsd1.2-dev:i38618:55
evgeniyПривет Всем18:55
Solskogenjrib: that's why I'm here :-)18:55
zistorПривет!18:55
jribSolskogen: you can specify the packages it wants to remove explicitly on the install line and apt should be more informative18:56
kaserelsanamhow to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well18:56
igneroustrism: have you got it?18:57
bogi-did someone have tips with work with broadcom wifi cards...I cant control wifi well with nm-applet and wierd thing that when searching free AP use a lot of system resources18:58
BrilliantMindGreetings! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?18:58
kaserelsanamhow to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well18:58
jribSolskogen: since libsdl1.2-dev seems to conflic with libsdl-dev my guess would be you have libsdl-dev installed18:58
Solskogenjrib: well, I want to have them both :-)18:58
jpittswhat would the best way of switching from virtual vmware 12.10 to physical?18:58
BrilliantMindAnybody can answer this: To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?18:59
jribSolskogen: what ubuntu version is this?18:59
fomalynx18:59
fomaoops wrong window :)19:00
Solskogenguess I have to setup a 32bit vm :(19:00
BrilliantMindGuys??? Please!! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?19:00
jribSolskogen: what happened when you included the packages to be removed in the install line?19:02
MonkeyDustBrilliantMind  yes, the live cd can do the partitioning, no problem19:02
MonkeyDustBrilliantMind  is it a ubuntu cd or a backtrack cd? if it's backtrack, type /join #backtrack-linux19:03
igneroustrism: have you got it?19:03
BrilliantMindMonkeyDust, thank you for the answer. Ubuntu LiveCD.19:03
tripelbGrub. Rebuilding grub. Help. Asking for days now. Better change to be the SQUEAKY WHEEL!19:04
jhutchins_wk!fixgrub | tripelb19:05
ubottutripelb: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)19:05
BrilliantMindMonkeyDust, Can I move the space bar to let little or bigger, right?19:07
Tecananyone else have dvd rom issues sometimes ?19:08
Tecanmy 2 sata drives just stop reading disks after a while19:08
MonkeyDustBrilliantMind  if you have free space, yes19:08
Tecani try ejecting them from nautilus and it sometimes works19:08
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bogi-Tecan, Me too but my dvd is been dearty :D19:08
BrilliantMindMonkeyDust, Can I move the space bar to let little or bigger, right19:08
bogi-Tecan, After cleaning work as usual19:09
BrilliantMindMonkeyDust, Thank you.19:09
localWhere to put bash script for init/startup/.desktop in ubuntu  12.04? I am trying to mess around with an ip address forwarder.19:10
localin particular trying to forward external ip to my gmail account.19:10
sweetteaHi guys, long time centos user here. Pondering migration to ubuntu server. Can anyone advise on 12.04 vs 12.10?19:11
sweetteaThe primary use will be as a virtd host on amd abu dhabi procs19:11
chriyshow to verify opened port on my network and the one that my ISP blocked ?19:11
MonkeyDustsweettea  #ubuntu-server -- 12.04 has longer support (lts)19:11
compdocsweettea, ive tried both and prefer 12.0419:11
jribsweettea: 12.04 = support for 5 years, 12.10 = support for 18 months (from release) but has newer software19:11
sweetteacompdoc: on server? I am sorry I should have specified19:12
sweetteaI have joined that channel and asked there19:13
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bogi-sweettea, compdoc, +1 for 12.04 but +10 to stay on centOS19:14
jhutchins_wkTecan: I can't rip more than 2-3 CD's in a row.  The drive gets hot and stops working.19:14
sweetteawhy stay? the virtd binaries are very old19:15
sweetteaits the only reason I am moving to ubuntu19:15
compdocbogi-, sweettea, centos is ok, but I switched to Ubuntu from centos and will not go back19:15
bogi-jhutchins_wk, you need a pro burner then19:15
jhutchins_wkbogi-: Or maybe just a better location in the case.19:15
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sweetteaguys, were talking about servers right19:16
sweetteaofc I use ubuntu on my laptop19:16
bogi-jhutchins_wk, yy maybe that too19:16
localchriys: nmap -PN localhost  ???   or are you talking about your router?19:16
sweetteamy main concern is security19:16
tripelbjhutchins_wk: thanks. That's what I've been looking for if I didn't already find that in search for_ grub rescue and grub recovery19:16
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jribsweettea: yes, support includes security updates19:17
jhutchins_wksweettea: The only real reason to use Centos is to be compatible with RHEL.19:18
neurontripelb: I did not find any solution to my problem. Ethernet is not working. I tried to install it from AR8151 package with no success . It says autoconf.h not found19:18
chriyslocal: i'm using postfix and the port 25 seems to be blocked by my ISP that's why i can't send email outside of the localnetwork and i'm wondering how to verify the opened one it order to make my postfix listening to it19:18
jhutchins_wktripelb: Did you get it fixed?19:18
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jhutchins_wkneuron: That should be supported by the internal atl1c driver since kernel 2.6.3219:20
jhutchins_wkchriys: Port 25 is for _inbound_ mail.19:21
jhutchins_wkchriys: If they block it outbound how are you supposed to use their mailsevers?19:21
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chriysmy server won't send or receive19:22
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jhutchins_wkDo you use their mailserver?19:23
chriysjhutchins_wk: i asked this question to myself, by i was told that the port is block and work only with known host wich i found weird19:23
chriysno i have installed postfix on my ubuntu server19:23
localchriys: port forward.19:24
jhutchins_wkchriys: I realize that that's what you're trying to do, but what do you do for mail now?19:24
chriyslocal: on my router? already did19:24
chriysjhutchins_wk what do you mean19:24
jhutchins_wkchriys: Presumably you have some sort of external email account already?19:25
chriysyes i have19:26
jhutchins_wkOk, what protocols does it use on what ports?19:26
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EvanCarroll...19:28
EvanCarrollswappermall swappermall_ swappermall__ swappermall___ swappermall____ a bit excessive, eh? perhaps an IRC proxy would help you out?19:28
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friendyOh, May I invoke a Linux/Ubuntu Guru to help a windows users, whom cannot return to the realms of Bill n Gates, to help me with a task?19:32
jhutchins_wkEvanCarroll: Or irssi + scren.19:32
jhutchins_wk!ask19:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:32
chriysjhutchins i use imap on port 993 with ssl19:33
friendyMy question is quite simple. I am installing Hamachi to my linux machine, I previously attempted to use it in Virtualbox and run the game in Linux, but it has failed, so I am trying to install it to Linux. I have found two-three ways, using ARU, sysvinit, which confuses me being three files, the other from Logmein, but I cannot install lsb. I am using an older version of Ubuntu, but I require the heavenly help of the Guru's of Linux 19:33
friendylol19:33
chriysjhutchins_wk: i use imap on port 993 with ssl19:34
EvanCarrollfriendy: that's not a clear question and it's very apologetic, so you need help isntalling lsb, or Hamachi (which I do not know about)19:34
EvanCarrolllsb should be in ubuntu-minimal or something to that affect.19:35
keith_I have a macbook dual booting OSX and Ubuntu. I haven't used OSX in months and would like to remove it. Can I do this safely without any ill effects? I'm concerned if I clear that partition, it will really screw rEFIt up19:35
MonkeyDustfriendy  is that a windows game?19:35
friendyI have a few files.19:35
friendyI did within the magical terminal ./install.sh, but it is saying it won't work.19:36
friendyAnd I have no clue how to get the sysvinit way to work.19:36
friendyYes Monkey, I am trying to get a windows game to work via Hamachi, multiplayer.19:36
MonkeyDustfriendy  in wine, then?19:36
friendyYes. The game works perfectly, merely the producers of that game made horrible multiplayer that works perfectly in Ham.19:37
MonkeyDustfriendy  have you asked in #winehq ?19:37
friendyThe Hamachi version, there exists a Linux version of that. It's not the game, its the linux version of Hamachi, which I am having problems installing. One said I needed lsb, but it looks like its on. Another said you can do it a different way, but when I click it, the terminal comes up and dissapears so fast.19:38
MonkeyDustfriendy  i read here, the linux version is beta, so perhaps buggy19:39
friendySlightly buggy. I merely request help in getting it installed via the beta-buggy version, or the other way (Another person compiled something or this or that, supposed to be easier to install, because of problems with lsb, and an add on he made later had a gui version).19:40
keith_I have a macbook dual booting OSX and Ubuntu. I haven't used OSX in months and would like to remove it. Can I do this safely without any ill effects? I'm concerned if I clear that partition, it will really screw rEFIt up19:40
garnetkeith_: Just out of curiosity, what exactly in Ubuntu is better than in OS X?19:41
friendyIf you could help me at all Monkey in figuring out why it won't work, and how to get it to work, it be appreciated.19:41
localanyone no where to put bash scripts that run on startup?19:42
localknow^19:42
MonkeyDustfriendy  no, i'm not a gamer and not familiar with windows19:42
LartzaWhat apt command would show me what package forced an install of another19:43
friendyBut it's not with a windows program, but its with getting something installed, dealing with the terminal and ./install.sh and scripts, not with windows or windows games.19:43
keith_garnet: Package management. I used to use MacPorts when I was on OSX, but I find that the Debian repos are much larger, and in particular contained a package that I needed and couldn't get to compile on my own. Other than that, the two are not so different19:43
LartzaDependency19:43
JokesOnYou77Hi all, I upgraded to 12.10 and installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now when I log into a gnome session my graphics settings are all messed up and I have to reapply all of my NVidia settings19:43
phy1729keith_: I'd put rEFIt on it's own partition then whipe the Mac one perhaps leaving the recovery behind just in case19:43
friendyCan you at least help me resolve this error when I use the .Deb file? ---Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb-core (>= 3.0) ----19:44
keith_garnet: Additionally, my next computer will not be a MacBook, and another computer I have is also not made by apple19:44
EvanCarrollfriendy: does Hamachi run under wine? or is it a native linux app?19:44
kvothetechfriendy: install lsb-core version greater than or equal to 3.019:44
keith_phy1729: Can I then expand the partition that Ubuntu is on without destroying any other data?19:44
phy1729depends on the filesystem19:44
friendyBoth. I'm trying to install the linux version. It was made into a native app.19:45
kvothetechkeith_: depends on your hdd filesystem free space in other partitions etc19:45
garnetkeith_: Ubuntu uses ext4. It's easily and safely expandable from LiveCD (USB)19:45
Lartzaapt-cache rdepends package lists all and not only what's installed...19:45
friendyKvothetech, where do I install the ones greater or equal? I've found so many links, and when I opend up systenamtic and typed in lsb, everything that was in there was installed.19:45
keith_kvothetech, garnet, phy1729: thank you all19:46
garnetI think you can just delete your OS X partition from LiveCD (USB) and expand Ubuntu to fill it up. rEFIt being a EFI boot manager shouldn't become broken19:46
LartzaFor example I have plymouth, libavformat etc installed and I want to know why19:46
kvothetechfriendy: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12905365/lsb-core_3.2-4ubuntu1_i386.deb is the 386 version...19:46
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kvothetechfriendy: if you're on a 64 bit install there's probably another one for you but...it's not hard to find.19:47
TLoTwhat partition type does /boot need to be, if i make a separate boot sector?19:47
TLoTs/sector/partition/19:47
friendyThank You. And no, not 64. 32 Maverick :).19:47
friendyDependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36)19:48
keith_garnet: Yes, but the rEFIt stuff is on the OSX partition in /efi19:48
friendyThat just popped up.19:48
TLoTfriendy: are you using Maverick?19:48
friendyDependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36) ---Yeah, I am.19:48
kvothetechTLoT: depends on your bootloader but usually first 1024 sectors and ext2/3/4 are common...19:48
TLoT!maverick | friendy19:48
ubottufriendy: Ubuntu 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) was the thirteenth release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 10th, 2012, see http://ubottu.com/y/maverick for details.19:48
TLoTjust as an FYI19:48
TLoTkvothetech: okay, i am doing a clean install on a bare drive19:48
TLoTkvothetech: so first partition, about 100 megs, ext4?19:48
friendyDoes this mean you can not or will not help me now :(?19:48
kvothetechTLoT: that's more than enough space but yeah....19:49
TLoTfriendy: it means that solving your solution is a bit more tricky19:49
jhutchins_wkkvothetech: gparted can expand partitions if there is available space.  You need to make a backup any time you're messing with partitions though, and it's actually faster once you've made the backup to just repartition & restore.19:49
TLoTkvothetech: 50MB sufficient?19:49
MonkeyDustfriendy  you're asking for help with a beta system nobody has ever heard of on a ubuntu version that is no longer supported19:49
garnetkeith_: It's a problem then. Anyway, it you are set on deleting OS X why you need rEFIt? You can just install GRUB from LiveCD (USB) on your hdd.19:49
TLoTfriendy: also what MonkeyDust said19:49
kvothetechfriendy: just find the packages with the versions it wants and install them.19:49
friendyI don't understand? I keep getting dependency stuff, like Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36)  when I followed the link to the lsb and tried installing it.19:50
kvothetechTLoT: yeah 50mb is fine...mines 2019:50
andaiMy computer won't boot. I had a similar problem before. It says there's no disk space, when I deleted stuff it worked fine. This time it continues to say there is no available disk space even when I delete stuff. I tried to check the filesystem but it keeps telling me it's still mounted (when I try to unmount it it tells me it's not mounted)19:50
TLoTkvothetech: i like keeping a tad extra space, i'll leave it at 50 then :P19:50
TLoTkvothetech: i used to do this in my sleep, but it was all ext3, since ext4 seems to be the standard nowadays... :P19:51
friendyAs I literally have no clue what packages to which version it wants, it just wants lsb. I got that dependency error when tryin to install that, so...Mhm.19:51
kvothetechTLoT: yeah cant wait for the few bugs in btrfs to be fixed.19:51
TLoTfriendy: i would suggest upgrading to a more supported release - 10.1019:51
JpmhI want to install ubuntu side-by-side with Windoze on a new compaq - problem is that compaq have set 4 partitions (at least I believe this is the problem) and so I have nowhere to install ubuntu - I need an idiots guide on how to expand/change the limit so ubuntu will install19:51
CatbuntuWhat happens if I use an unsupported Ubuntu version?19:51
TLoT's no longer updated19:51
CatbuntuFor example 10.1019:51
TLoTCatbuntu: no security updates, repo issues, newer software FTBFS in it...19:51
jhutchins_wkfriendy: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?19:51
TLoTetc.19:51
kvothetechfriendly it tells you what version of what it wants when it errors..19:51
CatbuntuBut could I still install thingies from the repos?19:52
andaiconcisely: system won't boot, disk claims to be full, remains full when large files deleted, can't check it because it's "mounted", even though I unmount it19:52
TLoTCatbuntu: only old security-hole-riddled things19:52
TLoT!eol | Catbuntu19:52
ubottuCatbuntu: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:52
keith_garnet: Ahh I thought I need it anyway19:52
Catbuntuthanks19:52
TLoTCatbuntu: you can use the 'oldreleases' repositories, but...19:52
TLoTCatbuntu: i strongly advise you use asupported softwrae19:52
jhutchins_wkandai: Need to boot to a different disk.19:52
tigranHow can I move the min/max/close buttons to the left side in Unity/12.10? Or is this theme specific and not configurable?19:52
kvothetechfriendy: linux is  a lot like bsd in that the core packages and stuff need to be versioned around each other so it all works stabley...19:52
Catbuntuyep19:52
jhutchins_wkandai: Rescue disk19:52
CatbuntuI don't really like Unity.19:53
garnetkeith_: My personal advice is simply not to waste your time and stick to OS X.19:53
friendyI am using Maverick...19:53
kvothetechCatbuntu: so don't use it.19:53
CatbuntuAnd nothing is lovely as Gnome 2 :(19:53
andaijhutchins_wk: It's a laptop. I have no different disk. Should I install ubuntu to a USB stick?19:53
friendyi would upgrade, but I got no USB or CD to use, unless they're is a third way.19:53
CatbuntuI'm using Cinnamon now19:53
* jhutchins_wk goes to the web to look up Maveric...19:53
jhutchins_wkandai: Yes, that should work.19:53
kvothetechfriendy: you can update from a previous version just do dist-upgrade...or change the repo's do an update then upgrade...19:54
andaijhutchins_wk: When I have that set up, how do I fix it?19:54
friendyWell, I kinda would. But when I did Sudo apt-get update n the stuff19:54
jhutchins_wkandai: It's possible you have run out of inodes (df -i would show you).19:54
kvothetechfriendy: note that second way you may want to do 1 release updateat a time and test what broke fix it then do it again...19:54
friendyIT just, kinda, said failed to fetch files19:54
jhutchins_wkfriendy: The problem would appear to be that the package you're trying to install is not compatible with that older version of Ubuntu.19:54
CatbuntuWhich is the more Gnome2-like desktop environment?19:54
Catbuntu(not MATE)19:54
friendyI see.19:54
friendyIf I upgrade, it won't screw up my system, will it?19:55
andaijhutchins_wk: I'll check19:55
jhutchins_wkfriendy: There's always that chance <grin>.19:55
LartzaWhy is apt-get listing me crazy unmet dependencies? Like libkatepartinterfaces4, which I do not have? Trying to remove plymouth19:55
kvothetechfriendy: usually it breaks a few things here and there but nothing unfixable19:55
jhutchins_wkfriendy: Don't go directly from 10.10 to 12.10 though, step through each version.19:55
friendyAlright. I'll try upgrading then. Do I use the terminal or the GUI update tool? OR does not matter?19:55
kvothetechCatbuntu: gnome3 in the old view mode19:55
jhutchins_wk!upgrade19:55
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade19:55
kvothetechfriendy: i use the terminal....but you can use whatever you want.19:55
friendyAlright, how do I go to each step without a total skip to 12.10? OR does it do it for me, going by through each step?19:56
Catbuntukvothetech, that worked fine on 12.04.19:56
andaijhutchins_wk: 3% IUSE19:56
kvothetechfriendy: when you do the update it'll tell you.19:56
jhutchins_wkfriendy: You need to do each step.  Basically you change the sources.list to the next version name, update, upgrade, repeat.19:56
andaijhutchins_wk: interestingly, they all return the same number ( cause they're on the same drive? )19:56
CatbuntuBut on 12.10, when I click the window name on the window list, it just gets... highlighted?19:56
CatbuntuUsing the Ambiance and Radiance themes.19:56
friendyUpgrade to 10.04 then.19:57
CatbuntuI think it's related to its new thingies and murrine engine.19:57
MonkeyDustfriendy  upgrading to each following version would take forever19:57
zykotick9jhutchins_wk: warning, ubuntu doesn't use source.list to update to a new version!  friendy19:57
jhutchins_wkMonkeyDust: it's not safe to jump major versions.19:57
kvothetechMonkeyDust: eh you don't have to but it doesn't take that much extra time and that way he can fix what broke in each update as he goes along19:57
CatbuntuWell, I'll see19:57
CatbuntuBye19:57
friendyI got good net, though...Alright, I'm about to use the GUI tool to upgrade. Can I keep Skype/Games/Browser up while updating, or close everything, and do I go from version to version.19:58
kvothetechMonkeyDust: and he's not stuck with 100 bugs at once.19:58
friendyAnd restart after each update?19:58
kvothetechfriendy: you don't have to.19:58
jhutchins_wkfriendy: Yes.  Please do read those guides before you start though..19:58
friendyGuides?19:58
friendyI thought it was as simple as pressing a button, and it's all upgraded n nice ?19:59
jhutchins_wkkvothetech: Need to keep the system in sync with the kernel.19:59
friendysyn with kernel? Confused...19:59
andaijhutchins_wk: I tried to e2fsck the drive, it says device does not exist19:59
andaiD:19:59
kvothetechjhutchins_wk: you don't have to restart to use a new kernel...eassiest method maybe but you don't have to.19:59
jhutchins_wkandai: fdisk -l19:59
friendyAlright, upgradin now :)19:59
jhutchins_wkandai: maybe it's called something else when booted to the USB>19:59
andaijhutchins_wk: cannot open /proc/partitions20:00
jhutchins_wkkvothetech: Hot patching a kernel is not usually within the average users's ability.20:00
andaijhutchins_wk: i'm not on USB yet, i'm trying to find it20:00
zykotick9jhutchins_wk: andai you need to use "sudo fdisk -l" to see anything.  sidenote "sudo parted -l" has better support.20:00
tigranHow can I move the min/max/close buttons to the left side in Unity/12.10? Or is this theme specific and not configurable?20:01
andaizykotick9: thanks20:01
jhutchins_wkandai: Yeah, you do need to boot to the USB.20:02
andaizykotick9: parted -l, no output. parted, "error: no device found"20:02
andaiYeah, i'm screwed20:02
jhutchins_wkzykotick9: Yeah, I always forget sudo.20:02
andaican i use an ancient ubuntu cd20:02
jhutchins_wkzykotick9: fdisk is quick and easy (and what I remember).20:02
jhutchins_wkandai: What filesystem?20:02
escottandai, are you in a chroot?20:03
mir_hi20:03
jhutchins_wkescott: He's on a corrupted system.20:04
UlyssesGaHi there!  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).20:04
zykotick9jhutchins_wk: i hear you!  i feel like i've "grown up" with fdisk.  for a laugh, read "man fdisk" on a debian system, and the "BUGS" section at the very bottom - VERY informative, including "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things", and suggests using fdisk as a last resort.20:04
escottjhutchins_wk, but that shouldnt prevent a file like /proc/partitions from existing20:04
zinkhi all, simple question, but when I find downloads on launchpad, can I apt-get install them or do I have to download them and install manually?20:05
andaiescott: I don't know the meaning of the word20:05
andaijhutchins_wk: ext420:05
andaiI found a 512mb usb stick. Looks like I'm using DSL20:06
escottandai, is anything listed with ls /proc?20:06
andaiescott: lemmecheck20:07
andaiescott: no20:07
UlyssesGaIf Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.20:07
escottandai, can you paste the output of "mount"20:07
escottandai, in particular i want to know if proc is mounted on /proc and sysfs on /sys and udev on /dev20:08
TLoTwhat evil is this?  "The installer crashed!"20:09
TLoTin LTS! o.o20:09
andaiescott: Yes, all of those20:09
escottandai, if proc is mounted on /proc then something should be listed in /proc20:10
andaiescott: Yeah, well, as previously mentioned, nothing is behaving as expected :P20:10
escottandai, you are going to have to dig through dmesg to figure out what is going on20:12
andaiescott: I haven't used linux in years, now I remember why :D20:12
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andaiescott: although I'm pretty sure the laptop's hard drive is just dying20:13
jhutchins_wkandai: escott means well, but the first thing to do is to boot to some other media and check the disk.20:14
jhutchins_wkandai: The problem with "really old debian" is that it may not support ext420:14
jhutchins_wkandai: or you said really old ubuntu - same deal.20:14
andaijhutchins_wk: Oh you just reminded me where I moved them, thank you :D20:15
jhutchins_wkandai: You don't have another system that you can use to download a newer rescue disk?20:15
JonEdneyIs there a graphical way to monitor resource usage such as RAM, on Ubuntu Destkop?20:15
andaijhutchins_wk: I could mount it in Virtualbox and then install it to USB, but that would still have to be DSL or puppy cause it's a tiny USB20:15
malkaunsJonEdney, ksysguard20:16
jhutchins_wkandai: No cds?20:16
sakkemoHi, would this be sensible for HDD+SSD setup? SSD: / and /home, HDD: swap (for hibernate), /home subfolders (Downloads, Videos etc.), which would be mounted in /home.20:16
andaijhutchins_wk: let me see if i can find the old ubuntu CDs20:16
jhutchins_wkJonEdney: ksysguard for kde, there are a bunch of different monitors.20:17
JonEdneyTy for the recommendation, malkauns20:17
malkaunsnp20:17
CT1Hi. Using Chrome with the pepper flash plugin.  With the adobe plugin I could find the "(deleted)" video streams using "lsof | grep Flash" for example.  With the pepper api it seems I need root to lsof and therefore open said files in /proc/$pid$/fd/ (which now belong to root.)  That's all fine if I wan't to wait for the stream to fully buffer then cp and chown, my problem is I use it for audio sync.  I run vlc /proc/pid/fd/x and watch while it b20:18
andaijhutchins_wk: you helped me find a DVD with some music my friend burned for me a few years ago. Thank you!20:18
jribJonEdney: gnome-system-monitor20:18
andaidoes ubuntu still send people install CDs?20:19
andai:D20:19
andaijhutchins_wk: ok i found 7.04 I'll see if it runs :D20:20
xanguaandai: only if you buy them20:20
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andaixangua: They used to be free, though, right?20:21
andaiOh... So I'm booting 7.04... but ext4 was released in 2008, right?20:21
andaican I upgrade the package I need to check the drive from the live-CD, like into RAM?20:21
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xanguaandai: yeah...free for you, not for them :P you always had the option to buy them20:22
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andaiI guess they stopped shipping them when demand grew exponentially? :D20:24
andaiohh that was only in late 201120:24
eXcAliBuRi'm trying to set a static ip the way I always have before editing the interfaces file, however it won't bring up the interface, using the latest ubuntu server20:24
andaijhutchins_wk: oh god, the liveCD can't boot either, X fails to start20:25
andaijhutchins_wk: that was the first/main problem, I noticed the thing with the drive later20:25
andaiit might just be that the graphics card didn't exist when this live CD was created?20:26
andai:/20:26
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CT1Should I ask my question in vlc, chrome, chromium, some kernel switches, adobe.... support instead? I don't know where to start (after trying to google keywords I thought would lead me on the right path)20:28
CT1Perhaps a better question... Where can I read up on how an app launched as "me" can spawn processes that are owned by root?20:30
CT1*by "me"20:31
jribCT1: why...?20:31
skorpiois it possible to install vlc 2.0 under lucid?20:31
jrib!info vlc lucid20:32
ubottuvlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1ubuntu1.8 (lucid), package size 1598 kB, installed size 3792 kB20:32
CT1jrib: Did you see my original Q? should I pm you?20:32
jribskorpio: I would be surprised if you couldn't find a ppa for it20:32
jribCT1: just repeat it here20:32
CT1Hi. Using Chrome with the pepper flash plugin.  With the adobe plugin I could find the "(deleted)" video streams using "lsof | grep Flash" for example.  With the pepper api it seems I need root to lsof and therefore open said files in /proc/pid/fd/ (which now belong to root.)  That's all fine if I want to wait for the stream to fully buffer then cp and chown, my problem is I use it for audio sync.  I run vlc /proc/pid/fd/x and watch while it buff20:33
skorpiojrib: that seams to be the problem.. those i found dont contain 2.020:33
droidboiI am trying to get the XMonad window manager to work20:34
droidboiSadly, on re-lgin I still get gnome20:34
MonkeyDustCT1  i guess the people in #ubuntustudio are more familiar with that sort of issues20:34
jribdroidboi: install xmonad, select xmonad from the session list at the login screen20:35
droidboijrib: I pretty much did all that20:36
jribdroidboi: what did you select at the login screen?20:36
jribCT1: can't you cp as your user?20:36
droidboijrib: actually, I am running Mint 11 - and I make the Window Manager selection using the Login Admin Tool20:37
CT1MonkeyDust: Perhaps.  Just that there are far more people here. New users or not, there's always been an almost 100% success rate in here for me (from "noob" to mild enthusiast)20:37
jribskorpio: is there a reason you don't just upgrade to precise (12.04) since lucid will be unsupported by april anyway?  I also don't see a lucid ppa for vlc 2.  It could be that the dependencies are not satisfied for it (guess)20:37
jrib!mint | droidboi20:37
ubottudroidboi: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org20:37
bipulhttp://pastebin.com/9diCpsHU Any one know why i am getting this warning.20:38
skorpiojrib: yea i dont like gnome3 yet20:39
eXcAliBuRhahaha i found my error20:39
jribskorpio: you can use gnome fallback (or classic; I forget what it's name).  You can also try lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop20:39
droidboijrib: OK, Thx20:39
eXcAliBuRI tried giving an ip of 25620:40
eXcAliBuR:P20:40
CT1jrib: I can, but only as root (when using googles' pepper flash) With adobe "old" flash plugin the /proc/pid/fd/* files are belong to us.  As I said, I can find where the locally stored flash video is stored with pepper, but can't directly launch vlc to play it while it buff's.20:40
jribCT1: what are the permissions on it?20:41
skorpiojrib: yea i was thinking about xubuntu but actually just need a quick sollution to play .smil videos...20:41
jribskorpio: I don't know what those are, but maybe try mplayer20:42
CT1the PID is my user, but even doing an lsof -p PID  doesn't show the (deleted) files.  I need to sudo lsof.  I can't even cd to the /proc/PID/fd directory as me.  All my files are belong to root (forgive the second reference to "all your base")20:43
jpittsanyone else having startup issues with dropbox and 12.10?20:45
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kingbeastgood day everyone20:48
kingbeastwas there a net-split or something?20:50
CT1I'm not completely stuck (I can simply disable googles' pepper flash in about:plugins and use adobe, which I CAN then see the (deleted) files in /proc/pid/fd and use them without privilege elevation) I'm simply curious about how the pepper plugin can command such power over me.  Also adobe will not be upgrading for linux, only security patches will be handed our way.  I wanted to adopt googles pepper flash early with that in mind, yet still keep 20:50
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coz_does anyone have solutions for the screen flickering in 12.04 and 12.10 with nouveau each time an application is opened and closed? I have pretty   much exhausted online bug reports etc20:51
jorgpanyone else having startup issues with dropbox and 12.10?20:51
jribCT1: yeah, I don't know.  Seems strange20:53
three18tihow can I split really long host names in the named config file?  I'm running into this issue http://razzed.com/2009/03/05/dkim-txt-records-in-dns-exceeding-255-characters/ except in my case, it's really long host names20:54
markovhany screenshot software out there that'll let me drag a box around the screen to take a screenshot of that?20:56
Mind_I have a HP 1TB AMD 3800 with Radeon and I am a little confuse about what torrent choose: AMD64 or i86. Who can tell me this?20:56
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kingbeastMind_: how much Ram do you have in it?20:57
Mind_kingbeast, 6GB and I have sure that my system is 64bit..20:57
Ben64then choose 6420:57
kingbeastMind_: get the amd6420:57
Mind_Thank you guys..20:58
kingbeastnp Mind_20:58
markovhnvm btw, shutter seems to be what i'm looking for20:59
CT1jrib: It's a daunting task when you don't grok at least some of the layers (or how it's layered for that matter) of a GNU/Linux system.  Is it a kernel thing? I had the same frustration getting an IR controller to work:  Where does X fit, where the kernel, is it a gnome thing... etc...  Thankfully it's all becoming easier for us "enthusiasts" but is it therefore becoming that oh so much more complex when things "break"? rhetorical question of cou20:59
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xzaseddoes anyone know if I can check to protocol (static or dhcp) from the ip or ifconfig command?21:00
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Mind_One more thing. I am now bootted with livecd 12.04 and i have back track in dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10 crashed. If a take the live cd and try use to burn the download i will can or not?21:03
Mind_One more thing. I am now bootted with livecd 12.04 and i have back track in dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10 crashed. If I remove the live cd and try use to burn the download i will can or not?21:03
kingbeastMind_: idk I have never tried it that way21:05
kittenmittensmm hello ::)21:08
Mind_kingbeast, I do not know if have the possibility of still "trying" the ubuntu and remove the live cd to use my DVD driver to create the image to boot!21:08
kittenmittensin the middle of reinstalling windows, no luck with ubuntu21:08
kingbeastMind_: I believe it will tell you to reinsert the boot disk21:09
kittenmittensis there a program i can use to creat an iso of a disk?21:09
kittenmittensanyone?21:10
genoobieokay21:10
genoobieI give up21:10
kittenmittenswhat are you giving up on geniibie21:11
genoobiekittenmittens, I am trying to install lubuntu21:11
kittenmittensmm?21:11
genoobiebrb sorry21:11
Mind_kingbeast: Probably! I tried in the backtrack but I still cannot. the image is created in dvd and does not boot! I do not know what happened.21:13
kingbeastMind_: use another computer to download it if you have access to another one.21:15
bekksMind_: Did you burn the image or did you create a new data dvd with the image file as its content?21:15
kittenmittensi need a program that will let me make an iso of a disk please21:16
bekkskittenmittens: dd21:16
kittenmittens?21:16
bekkskittenmittens: The program name is "dd".21:17
bekkskittenmittens: Using dd, you can create an iso image when having a cd/dvd disk.21:17
Mind_bekks: I know that have to choose, but, the program maybe do not make the content.. Did not show this in menu and in nowhere!21:18
Mind_kingbeast: I do not!21:18
bekksMind_: So which program did you use?21:18
genoobiekittenmittens, sorry I had a family thing for a min21:20
genoobiewell the basic idea is this21:20
genoobie12.10 lubuntu install fails to recog vga hardware21:20
genoobiexubuntu livecd 12.04 works OK21:20
genoobieso what gives?21:20
Mind_bekks: The name is: CD and DVD CREATOR. the icon of the program is a little pen drive. I have it in back track KDE.21:20
nomodesetAre ther any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04?21:20
genoobiekittenmittens, that's the issue21:21
bekksMind_: I never used backtrack, sorry. I guess there is some "Help" or "About" menu entry when starting that application.21:21
nomodesetsure!21:21
nomodesetAre there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04?21:22
Billybeagleso im having sftp problems connecting to my ubuntu 12.04 server.          I had it all set up yesterday with a sftponly user and uploaded my site. Now im getting can not connect to host in dreamweaver. however my primary root user account can connect to host.21:23
Mind_bekks: Do not have this there! I will try again and see. Thank you for the support!21:23
nomodesetAre there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please21:23
Seven_Six_Twowhat is the envelope called that holds social stuff in unity?21:26
erinem1Alguém fala Português BRasil aqui ?21:26
MonkeyDust!pt21:27
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.21:27
trismSeven_Six_Two: indicator-messages21:28
Seven_Six_Twotrism, thanks21:28
kittenmittensoh ffs21:28
Mind_kengbeast: I removed the LiveCD and is working normally! Weird? Maybe.. LOL21:28
kittenmittensnothings working21:28
nomodesetAre there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please21:28
kittenmittenslitterally not a single program to make a fucking iso either21:29
h00kkittenmittens: please keep the language appropriate21:29
nomodesetkittenmittens: please keep the language appropriate21:30
kittenmittensim just failing to see how ubuntu is better than windows in anyway21:30
Mind_erinem: Eu falo.. And you.. Do not speak in english dumbass?21:31
Mind_LOL21:31
nomodesetMind_: please keep the language appropriate21:31
mojtabaHi21:31
Seven_Six_TwoI had removed empathy when I first upgraded to 12.10 because it kept crashing. I've just reinstalled it, but it's not included in indicator menu. Is there another package that I should install? I don't see empathy-indicator21:31
nomodesetkittenmittens: and easier21:31
Mind_nomodeset: Sorry!21:31
mojtabaI have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working21:32
ironhalikSeven_Six_Two: I think you need to run it at least once from the dash21:32
Seven_Six_Twoironhalik, it's running now21:32
_helios_kittenmittens: Ubuntu is 100x better than Windows for many reasons probably to many to list in this channel.21:32
nomodeset_helios_: I agree21:32
kittenmittensim jsut not seeing it.. because windows is more stable.. has infinitly more support hardware wise and software..21:32
Seven_Six_Twoironhalik, only gwibber and thunderbird are listed in indicator menu. maybe I have to log out?21:33
ironhalikSeven_Six_Two: should get autoadded to messeging menu after first run. If it did not, I'm clueless21:33
MonkeyDustkittenmittens  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/21:33
nomodesetkittenmittens: But this is not windows, is hardware support21:33
ironhalikSeven_Six_Two: you can always try21:33
mojtabaI have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working21:33
kittenmittenswindows will start after you install it no matter what, if you install with a clean cd21:33
h00kkittenmittens: you can use Brasero to create an image of a CD21:33
kittenmittensno i cant21:33
llutz!ot  stop that stupid "X is better than Y", OS-Fanboy discussion in offtopic please21:33
h00kkittenmittens: are you getting some sort of error when you try?21:34
kittenmittensbrasero wants me to make the image file im writing to to be bigger..21:34
nomodesetllutz: Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please21:34
h00kkittenmittens: to be bigger than what?21:35
mojtabaI have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working21:35
mojtabaDo you know what should I do?21:35
kittenmittensi dont know21:35
nomodesetmojtaba: shotdown your machine21:35
mojtabaregister | nomodeset21:35
kittenmittensjust another illogical bug with ubuntu, im installing windows on my pc now, i just need an iso of my drivers disk21:36
mojtaba!register | nomodeset21:36
ubottunomodeset: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode21:36
kittenmittensi tryed ubunut ofor over a week, tryed to get it install that is, without messing up and and killing itself21:36
jolarentrying to find information on however it's dangerous to name a user backup. If perhaps the system already uses this name?21:36
h00kkittenmittens: I've used Brasero, click "Disc Copy," enter a filename you want it to save to, and it will create an ISO of the disc21:36
nomodesetubottu: Why?21:36
ubottunomodeset: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:36
kittenmittensubottu care to dance?21:37
ubottukittenmittens: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:37
kittenmittensubottu: care to dance?21:37
ubottukittenmittens: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:37
h00kPlease do not abuse the bot21:37
kittenmittensim not21:37
llutzjolaren: at least debian has a user/group named backup21:37
gskelligThe brightness keys do not change the brightness on my laptop with ubuntu 12.10. Fresh install21:37
gskelligthe OSD comes up and goes up and down but the brightness does not change21:37
kittenmittensubottu: i hate you i hate you i hate you!21:37
ubottukittenmittens: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:37
nomodesetgskellig: drivers21:37
h00kubottu: tell kittenmittens about msgthebot21:38
ubottukittenmittens, please see my private message21:38
gskellignomodeset I haven't been able to find any for it.. Google search at least comes up with nothing21:38
nomodesetgskellig: you hace to install "Additional Drivers" pack21:38
gskelligoh alright21:38
gskelligone sec21:38
llutzjolaren: getent group backup ; getent passwd backup               to check21:38
jolarenllutz: hmm.. but when i wrote adduser backup it didn't prompt for errors.. but i had to run passwd after adduser21:38
nomodesetgskellig: Yeah, i found a forum wich sais that it is no longer in gnome 321:39
jolarenllutz: backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh21:39
gskelligwhere can I get to the additional drivers?21:39
nomodesetgskellig: Software center21:40
gskellignot used to unity21:40
jolarenllutz: so the group existz in ubuntu,,21:40
przemekhello do you know21:40
przemekdrac dell default login21:40
przemekand passworD?21:40
jolarenllutz: if i added a password to that user on the server.. would it cause thinks that controls the backup to fail?21:40
llutzjolaren: thats a user you pasted21:40
Mind_I need open the Download path from livecd and i do not have permission. How can I open it?21:41
jolarenllutz: oh, so ubuntu has a user named backup21:41
nomodesetgskellig: Search "Additional drivers" at the software center21:41
llutzjolaren: the command above should have given you 2 lines output, 1st is a group, 2nd the user21:42
ironhalikmy TP x220 running ubuntu is drawing ~20W of power for some reason21:42
ironhalikat idle/low load21:42
gskelligdoesnt show up nomodeset21:42
jolarenllutz: both equals "backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh21:42
nomodesetrun in a terminal "sudo aptitude update"21:43
gskelligbut "ubuntu-drivers-common" is already installed (and updated)21:43
nomodesetor "sudo apt-get-update"21:43
jolarenllutz: im afraid that i might have broken some services by setting a password to "backup" user21:43
llutzjolaren: thats odd, a group shouldn't have a homedir/shell set21:43
nomodesetgskellig: it does not matter21:43
jolarenllutz: do you think that's a possability? ^21:44
llutzjolaren: i'm not sure, but i wonder why you havent got any error/warning when creating the (existing) user21:44
gskelligstill nothing21:44
nomodesetllutz: it is really extrange21:44
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gskelligah got it21:45
nomodesetgskellig: what happend?21:45
gskelligapt-get was installed not aptitude21:46
gskelliginstalled aptitude and updated and it showed up in software center21:46
llutz!aptitude | gskellig21:46
ubottugskellig: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.21:46
nomodesetgskellig: "Addi.. Drivers"?21:46
gskelligyeah I know what aptitude is -_- lol thanks llutz21:47
nomodesetubottu: Are you a bot?21:47
ubottunomodeset: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:47
NarelHi21:47
gskelligits installing now, thanks guys21:47
Mind_I need open the Download path from livecd and i do not have permission. How can I open it?21:47
NarelI've some problems to build gnash with vaapi support21:47
nomodesetllutz: you have to pay me!21:47
nomodesetgskellig: you have to pay me!21:47
llutzgskellig: if you would have read ubottus msg, you would have seen that its not an explanation of aptitude, its a warning you should be aware of21:48
NarelI have all dependencies I think, configure is correct but there is an error in make21:48
nomodesetgskellig: X)21:48
llutzjolaren: i don't think it breaks things, you just have to be aware of the fact, that the user "backup" is able to login now21:49
nomodesetubottu: oh my god21:49
ubottunomodeset: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:49
NarelHihttp://pastebin.com/Rnwp3j8A21:49
MonkeyDustnomodeset  stop being funny21:49
llutzMonkeyDust: where do you see the troll being funny?21:49
Narelhttp://pastebin.com/Rnwp3j8A sorry21:49
nomodesetMonkeyDust: Is OSS not a joke?21:50
Mind_MonkeyDust: I need open the Download path from livecd and I do not have permission. How can I open it?21:50
nomodesetllutz: pfff21:50
NarelAnybody has a solution21:51
Narel?21:51
washuu_deubottu: tell washuu_de about msgthebot21:52
ubottuwashuu_de, please see my private message21:52
h00kNarel: I would talk to the maintainers of gnash and check their documentation21:52
nomodesetMind_: You can't!21:54
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Narelyes h00k beacause I want to obtain hardware accel with gnash, I think it's solving hardware accel in all GPUs21:54
Narelfor all GPUs21:55
xubuntu06hi21:55
xubuntu06I have an atheros wireless chip which will not un21:56
nomodesetMind_: You have to use a live cd21:56
xubuntu06The Atheros chipset will not run21:56
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1590886/21:56
fishcookeri cant change my resolution screen21:57
nomodesetxubuntu06: is ther any linux driver for it?21:57
fishcookeris there any solution21:57
xubuntu06@nomodeset do you want me to post the output of lspci21:57
hplcnomodeset, isnt there kldload ath?21:57
nomodesetxubuntu06: you don't have to21:58
nomodesetfishcooker: there is no enough information21:59
xubuntu06Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter21:59
fishcookerwhat kind of information nomodeset21:59
nomodesetfishcooker: the problem is ambiguos21:59
xubuntu06@nomodeset the chip is Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter22:00
fishcookeri can't change resolution for my box22:00
fishcookerso i tell you all that my chip is nvidia22:00
fishcookerbecause after i can't  change the resolution22:01
fishcookerit directs to nvdia x server setting22:01
nomodesetfishcooker: have you installed the propietary driver?22:01
fishcookeri've installed from apt22:01
nomodesetfishcooker: You have to run nvidia config22:01
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nomodesetxubuntu06: Install "Additional drivers" from software center22:02
fishcookerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1590907/22:03
phoenixsamprasive been using Fedora, since now than im using Ubuntu, and ive noticed UNITY is SLOW as hell, even i installed nvidia drivers..... still slow... what can i do to improve performance?22:03
fishcookerthere is no nvidia-config nomodeset22:03
mojtabaI have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working22:03
mojtabaDo you know what should I do?22:03
nomodesetnvidia-settings as root22:03
nomodesetmojtaba: recently22:03
mojtabanomodeset: ??22:04
xubuntu06@nomodeset why in ubuntu 12.04 the wireless works and in xubuntu it's being  a pain22:04
nomodesetmojtaba: Do you have installed any additional pack?22:05
_helios_xubuntu06: did you switch from 32bit to 64bit?22:05
mojtabanomodeset: no22:05
nomodesetmojtaba: Well it is really estrange?22:05
mojtabanomodeset: The fan is always working.22:06
mojtabaI do not know why!22:06
MarkShuttleworthI HAVE RETURNED22:06
WulfHello!22:07
Wulfhow can I automatically install usb printers?22:07
MarkShuttleworthtry looking at some amazon ads22:07
Wulfso the user only needs to plug it in and click "print"22:07
MarkShuttleworthim mark shuttleworth, i know how to do this22:07
mojtabaI am using ubuntu 12.10 64x.22:08
fishcookernomodeset: there are 3 resolution option22:08
nomodesetmojtaba: it is normal, but run "gnome-system-monitor" and check your cpu's load22:08
MarkShuttleworthWulf: moar amazon ads is a good place to start22:08
mojtabanomodeset: Thank you22:08
fishcookerauto; 640x; 320x22:08
fishcookerno 1024x*22:08
nomodesetfishcooker: it sucks22:08
WulfMarkShuttleworth: but Pinky, how will this solve my problem?22:08
fishcookerLoL22:08
mojtabanomodeset: even when not under load, the fan is working with full spead.22:08
_helios_lol22:08
MarkShuttleworthamazon ads are what ubuntu is all about now22:09
fishcookerbut thankyou nomodeset22:09
fishcookeryou are the best22:09
xangua!ops | MarkShuttleworth22:09
ubottuMarkShuttleworth: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler or Jordan_U, DJones!22:09
nomodesetmojtaba: I think that you don't have to worry about that, check the temperature of your laptop22:09
MarkShuttleworthhalp22:10
nomodesetfishcooker: I'm not22:10
fishcookeryes, you have tried to solve our problem here22:11
fishcooker:-)22:11
fishcookerkeep up the good job22:12
nomodesetfishcooker: Try with "sudo nvidia-settings"22:13
mojtabanomodeset: It uses battery very much and also the fan is over loaded comparing windows, unfortunately.22:13
fishcookeryes i have22:14
andaijhutchins_wk: OK finally got a live CD working, doing a check on the partition22:15
fishcookerthat's why i told you the option of resolution beber22:15
fishcooker*before22:15
nomodesetmojtaba: Well, it passed to me when I have not installed propietary drivers, but the cpu load was full22:15
mojtabanomodeset: I have installed propietary drivers22:16
nomodesetmojtaba: estranger22:16
mojtaba!22:16
Akumahello, where can I find open vpn client logs?22:17
nomodesetfishcooker: go to nvidia website and download linux drivers22:20
fishcookerok thanks for the follow up .. yes i will22:21
Ben64don't use the drivers from the website, there are perfectly good ones in the standard ubuntu repository22:22
Wooziehello, i have the problem with nvidia proprietary drivers on 3.x kernel, i wrote everything on the nvidia forums, can I post a link?22:24
nomodesetBen64: there is an option22:24
nomodesetWoozie: no22:24
nomodeset:-)22:25
fishcookerbtw nomodeset how about the22:25
nomodesetfishcooker: what?22:25
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fishcookerthe old package22:26
fishcookerfrom apt-get install22:26
fishcookershould i remvoe it first22:26
nomodesetfishcooker: nvidia installer will do22:27
* mojtaba help please22:27
Wooziethe problem is that everything works fine, but on 2.6 kernel - on 3.x i have an error "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error)", in kern.log nvidia spits out the "nvrm: failed to copy vbios to system memory" errors. Every single Google result with this error is connected to Bumblebee, but i don't have Optimus on my laptop.22:27
WoozieMy hardware is: Lenovo IdeaPad Y550 with GeForce GT240M22:28
fishcookerwhich version n model installer for mine22:28
fishcooker?22:28
fishcookerit's built up gpu on the board22:29
nomodesetfishcooker: ah22:29
Wooziei can send xorg logs, kern.log and xorg.conf (unfortunately from Fedora, but i installed Ubuntu firstly and the problem was the same) right now22:29
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UbuntuCan anybody help me?22:30
fishcookerGeForce 6150SE nForce 43022:30
fishcookeron my lshw22:30
nomodesetfishcooker: it is22:30
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Wooziei am fighting with this for three months, wrote on askubuntu, nvidia and mint forums and nothing22:30
nomodesetWoozie: it is hard22:30
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: What have you been fighting with?22:30
nomodesetWoozie: give us the forums links22:31
WoozieSonikkuAmerica: with my problem, i wrote about this just after You connected22:31
Wooziehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/197040/nvidia-proprietary-driver-logging-me-to-console-instead-of-gui22:31
Wooziehttps://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/528489/geforce-mobile-gpus/linux-gt240m-versus-3-x-kernel-fight-failed-to-copy-vbios-to-system-memory-/22:31
Woozieand wait a sec, i'll just find that mint forums post22:32
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: OK, this is such a common issue. What have you done already?22:32
Guest80282Why the fan is working full loaded?22:32
Guest80282New installed, ubuntu 12.10 64x22:32
SonikkuAmericaGuest80282, could you rephrase that? That was a little hard to understand.22:33
WoozieSonikkuAmerica: have done the nouveau blacklisting/removal, installing different nvidia drivers (from the ubuntu repo, from that edgers repo and from nvidia site)22:33
WoozieSonikkuAmerica: i was experimenting with ACPI and IOMMU kernel flags22:33
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Have you been able to activate them via jocket?22:33
Guest80282SonikkuAmerica: I have installed newly the ubuntu 12.10 64x and when nothing is running the fan is always running fully loaded.22:33
SonikkuAmerica*jockey?22:34
WoozieSonikkuAmerica: I don't know what do you mean22:34
SonikkuAmericaGuest80282, so your computer's fan is going overtime while nothing is running.22:34
Guest80282SonikkuAmerica: yes22:34
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nomodesetGuest80282: the same problem of mojtaba22:35
SonikkuAmericaGuest80282, sounds like a hardware issue. Tell me a little about the machine you're trying to run it on.22:35
Guest80282SonikkuAmerica: Dell Studio 155522:35
SonikkuAmericaWoozie, After installing a third-party driver (repo or otherwise), you needto activate it via "Additional Drivers" or type [ sudo jockey ] in a terminal.22:36
nomodesetGuest80282: You're mojtaba22:36
SonikkuAmerica*need to22:36
nomodesetjockey-kde22:37
WoozieSonikkuAmerica: Hmm, i didn't tried that. Wait a second, i'll log in on IRC from phone and reboot into 3.x.22:37
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SonikkuAmericaOr jockey-gtk or just jockey22:37
nomodesetWoozie: Wow22:37
folornI'm having a problem if anyone has time to help me with it: i need to repair my packages but forgot how any help would be great.. :)22:38
nomodesetfolorn: type "man apt-get" and read it22:39
folornthanks nomodeset22:40
cookiesandjuiceHi, is anyone there?22:47
nkzz978yep22:47
cookiesandjuicelol hey22:47
taz1232yea im still here22:47
SQLWorldWaaasssup22:47
cookiesandjuiceuh, i'm an ubuntu newbie, and i'm having issues trying to use my wifi22:47
cookiesandjuicedo you guys think you could help me?22:48
WoozieAt last, logged in.22:48
cookiesandjuiceUh, hello?22:49
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taz1232just say whats the problem22:49
SQLWorldWhat version of Unbuntu are you using? Cookies22:49
mrsudoerWelp, it was a lot easier installing ubuntu than installing fedora...22:50
zoozis there a way to prevent a service from starting after package installation?22:50
cookiesandjuiceI can't connect to wifi - I've tried to enable the proprietary driver for my wireless card, but nothing happens22:51
nomodesetPress the wireless button22:53
nomodesetHelp me please: "su: Authentication failure"22:53
L3topcookiesandjuice: lspci -nn | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless|802)'22:53
SQLWorlddoes anybody talk on this thing? im new to this.22:54
cookiesandjuicelol, yeah, i'm new too. they're here.22:55
RamtronHi22:56
SQLWorld:CookiesandJuice: what version of unbuntu are you using??22:56
SonikkuAmericanomodeset: Why are you using su?22:56
RamtronMy harddrive died recently... So I used my old one, but couldn't install windows 7 because it had no drivers. Luckily I had a Ubuntu 12.04 disc laying around. Does anyone know how to get all my drivers back? Preferably on Windows 7........22:56
nomodesetSonikkuAmerica: I want to change to my root status22:57
nomodesetRamtron: You can call to microsoft22:57
RamtronWhy would I do that?22:58
L3topRamtron: typically one would go to the websites of the hardware and download the drivers for the specific models.22:58
SonikkuAmericanomodeset: use [ sudo -i ]22:58
RamtronI can't, I can't install Windows 7 at all without drivers22:58
SonikkuAmericanomodeset: Then you can mess with your machine as much as you want22:58
RamtronI can use Ubuntu of course, but I'd prefer not to since I can't use Skype for school on here22:58
Ben64!skype | Ramtron22:58
ubottuRamtron: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga22:59
L3topRamtron: the point is... this is not an ubuntu question... it is a windows question. Getting your windows OS going is not within the scope of this channel22:59
nomodesetSonikkuAmerica: Yeah, or [sudo -s] but why su doesnot run22:59
Ben64!root | nomodeset22:59
ubottunomodeset: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo22:59
RamtronI know :( but I need help I know you guys have the ability to do that22:59
Ben64Ramtron: try ##windows22:59
RamtronAnd I know I can USE Skype, but my webcam was built in my laptop updise down so it's annoying22:59
rypervencheLOL22:59
rypervenchenomodeset: You CAN set a root password if you really want, but by default there is none.23:00
jhutchins_wkRamtron: I haven't had a Windows machine since 2003 or 2004.23:01
L3topRamtron: I am afraid you need another channel. Let's pretend you made widgets. Your widget competition is largely incompetent, but largely popular. Does it become your burden to support your competition's widgets?23:01
nomodesetrypervenche: There s more protection without password: a pradox!23:01
jhutchins_wkRamtron: You can probably get the drivers, and possibly a restore disk, from your hardware manufacturer.23:01
nomodesetrypervenche: How can i do it?23:01
RamtronI have a restore disc but there's no drivers on it23:01
Ramtronapparently23:01
Ben64nomodeset: it is not recommended, you should just use sudo23:01
L3topRamtron: That does not affect the position here. /join ##windows23:02
SonikkuAmericanomodeset: The [ su ] command doesn't work unless you set a password for the user "root."23:02
zoomgood evening23:02
nomodesetBen64: yeah, yeah! but how can i do it?23:02
Ben64nomodeset: by using sudo23:02
Woozienomodeset: sudo passwd root23:02
RamtronCan you please just help, instead? It's very important, no one's answering there23:02
rypervenchenomodeset: You can do "sudo -i" to get the same thing done. Otherwise, you can change it by doing "sudo passwd root"23:02
Ben64Ramtron: no23:02
L3topRamtron: that is kind of the point.23:02
L3topWould they field your linux questions?23:02
RamtronPeople are doing illegal shit all over the world, and you kids are afraid to break rules in a damn IRC chat23:02
Ramtrongrow up23:03
RamtronNo one cares. You're not getting paid23:03
nomodesetSonikkuAmerica: Ben64: rypervenche: Thanks a lot guys23:03
Ben64you come into an ubuntu chat for windows support, how about you grow up23:03
SonikkuAmerica!civil23:03
L3topRamtron: nor are they in ##windows...23:03
nomodesetRamtron: thanks for your advice23:03
RamtronWell, grow up regardless. See ya23:03
zoomhmm... makes me want to walk into an apple store to get an android app installed ;-)23:04
rypervencheL3top: Sounds like you need a better operating system23:04
L3topRamtron: I have so many heartbeats in my chest. I will not field your paid product support for free.23:04
rypervencheerrr23:04
L3top!ot23:04
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!23:04
rypervenchewrong person ;;23:04
nomodesetrypervenche: how can i call to ubottu23:05
nomodeset?23:05
rypervenchenomodeset: /query ubottu23:05
nomodesetrypervenche: thanks23:06
zoomanyone up for some powermanagement / "it wont standby/sleep/hibertnate at all" issues?23:06
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, it'll take some time, need to install Ubuntu23:06
Ben64zoom: usually the answer to that is "don't sleep/standby/hibernate"23:06
tigranIf someone is running unity, can you confirm something for, please. Using keyboard shortcuts to lower volume, lower your volume all the way until the bar doesn't show anymore. Then press lower volume one more time, does the bar show full now?23:06
tigranAlso, which package handles that so I can take a look at the source23:07
zoomits a laptop on xubuntu quantal23:08
zoomand before you send me to #xubuntu, a ubuntu lts live disk behaved the same23:08
noobeI run Windows and Linux in vmware player. Something happen and i cant "paste" from one machine to another. I can paste from windows to my host OS.23:08
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noobeHow to fix that ?23:08
Saraneeded to reinstall my win 7 used boot repair to boot into windows again. it erased grub2 now don't know how to recover ubuntu. please don't give me boot repair link need more help23:09
nomodesettigran: Using keyboard shortcuts to lower volume, lower your volume all the way until the bar doesn't show anymore. not the other23:09
nomodesetSara: google it please23:09
nomodesetSara: that is a well known issue23:09
tigrannomodeset: I'm not sure what you're saying23:10
SaraI did it gives boot repair link23:10
CelsoPeople, When i open software center, isn't suposed to use de icon that already is on the bar and not opening another? or when open, it uses another icon?23:10
Ben64!google | nomodeset23:10
ubottunomodeset: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.23:10
SaraI fail to follow the procedure in boot repair link it says the partition does not exist23:10
Ben64Sara: we've been over this many many times. use boot repair and give the pastebin link at the end23:10
zoomhmm... i think ive come to the wrong neighbourhood... random people, random questions flying about23:10
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nomodesetBen64: ubottu: oki23:11
Sarahttp://pastebin.com/8ttDbTV623:11
Sarapaste bin link after using boot repair23:11
Sarait loged in windows again like i have done nothing23:12
Ben64Sara: the problem appears to be that you do not have ubuntu installed23:12
nomodesetSara: You have to run a live cd23:12
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SaraIm in live cd . i used live usb to use boot repair23:12
cookiesandjuiceI've enabled my Broadcom BCM4311 driver, but nothing happens - Ubuntu doesn't scan for a wireless connection. Any suggestions?23:13
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fabio123i know there is a way to boot into ubuntu from vhd virtual hdd23:13
jhutchins_wk!fixgrub23:13
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)23:13
nomodesetSara:23:13
nomodesetSara: http://pastebin.com/8ttDbTV623:13
SaraI had ubuntu running for long time  ben23:13
Ben64Sara: windows must have erased it23:13
fabio123but it isnt free vboot23:14
nomodesetBen64: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt23:14
nomodesetsudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev23:14
nomodesetsudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc23:14
nomodesetsudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys23:14
nomodesetsudo chroot /mnt23:14
nomodesetgrub-install --recheck /dev/sda23:14
nomodesetupdate-grub223:14
FloodBot1nomodeset: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:14
SaraIt happens again and again why23:14
Sarai cannot erase all my files in ubuntu everytime i install windows23:14
Ben64Sara: when you repaired windows or whatever you did, it erased the partition(s) for ubuntu23:14
Ben64Sara: how many times do you need to install windows?23:15
jhutchins_wkSara: Note that you need to install grub to the device such as /dev/sda, not a partition like /dev/sda123:15
fabio123http://www.vmlite.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51&Itemid=14823:15
Sarathen tell me how to do it for next time cause its 5th time im asking same question in this forume23:15
nomodesetSara: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591059/23:15
Ben64Sara: do what23:15
nomodesetSara: please be polite23:16
jhutchins_wkSara: The recommended method is to install windows first, then install Ubuntu.  This will allow Ubuntu's grub to manage booting to either windows or ubuntu.23:16
tigrannomodeset: were you asking me what I meant by that?23:16
nomodesettigran: no, i do it and i have seen the same,23:16
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tigranok, seems like a bug huh23:17
nomodesettigran: wait but no the other:23:17
SaraIm polite why? did i say sth?23:17
jhutchins_wkSara: We23:17
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jhutchins_wkSara: We're not entirely clear on what you actually did.  What did you do that made ubuntu stop working?23:17
tigrannomodeset: whenever you lower the volume when volume is 0, the bar stays empty for you?23:17
nomodesettigran: you got it23:18
tigranwhich version of ubuntu are you using23:18
nomodeset12.1023:18
tigranhmm, I'm on mint 14 which is ubuntu 12.1023:18
Saraduring installation of windows it asks to restart to contiue . after the first restart it fails to come back to installation process.23:18
Ben64!mint | tigran23:19
ubottutigran: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org23:19
L3top!mint | tigran23:19
L3top!mint > tigran23:19
ubottutigran, please see my private message23:19
tigrananyone else want to redirect me to that? :)23:19
nomodesetL3top: Ben64: it is not about mit23:19
SaraI loged in usb live and installed boot repair recommended setting23:19
L3top!mint23:19
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org23:19
NetbusSara: what error messages?23:19
Saraand thats it nothing else23:19
Saragrub rescue>23:19
Ben64Sara: windows works now, right?23:20
nomodesetBen64: L3top: it is not about mid at all23:20
L3topdoesn't matter what one thinks it is about. Mint is unsupported here.23:20
Sarayeap23:20
Saranot ubuntu23:20
Ben64Sara: then install ubuntu, and everything will work23:20
tigranI lied, im on ubuntu 12.1023:20
nomodesetL3top: it is not about mint, is about a bug in ubuntu 121023:20
jhutchins_wkSara: We're having to guess what you did, that's not very helpful/23:20
Saraand my ubuntu files is gone after installing it again23:20
supsterDoes anyone see any issues with this Upstart job? Are there any improvements to make? https://gist.github.com/467828523:20
SaraI said all i did Idid nothign more23:21
L3topCould very well be. File a bug. However I am not wasting my time supporting an unsupported OS23:21
jhutchins_wkSara: Unless you have a seperate partition that's going to happen every time.23:21
SaraI have a seperate partition23:21
Saraext 423:21
Ben64Sara: just install ubuntu23:21
Ben64you currently do not have an ext4 partition23:21
jhutchins_wkSara: Is the partition still there?23:21
tigrando you know which package manages the displaying of the volume level when changing it via keyboard?23:21
Ben64tigran: we cannot support mint here, sorry23:22
Saraben I have done that last ime it erases my files in ubuntu i should begin from scrach23:22
L3topSara, if you install windows AFTER *buntu on its own partition... you will have to update grub23:22
tigranBen64: that's awesome, im not asking a question about mint23:22
SaraI can see the partions in windows23:22
Ben64Sara: installing ubuntu doesn't erase files in ubuntu23:22
Kurukurufor some reason, I can't access PPA for super-boot-manager23:22
k1ltigran: last time. when using mint please use the mint support since they handle things differently23:22
Sarahow l3top23:22
Ben64Sara: especially when you don't have ubuntu installed23:22
Celsocurently, i think windows dont see ext4 partitions23:22
Kurukuru'pleasecheck your internet connection'23:23
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L3topSara... windows cannot recognize a linux partition... how specifically do you "see" it23:23
Kurukuruinternet is working fine23:23
Sarawell then I install it differently . cause it did23:23
jhutchins_wkSara: As long as you don't install Windows to the same partition as Ubuntu it won't erase your files, but it will overwrite grub.23:23
Sararight click on computer and manage23:23
notonmintIn Ubuntu 12.10, which package manages the displaying of the volume level when changing it via keyboard, if anyone happens to know.23:23
Celsoi doubt23:23
L3topSara: Windows does not understand linux... linux understands windows. If you want to install both... install windows first, then linux.23:23
Ben64notonmint: stop playing games, we can't help you23:23
jhutchins_wkSara: It sounds like when you installed Windows you formated the ext4 partition.23:24
jhutchins_wkSara: That means it's not ext4 any more.23:24
L3topSara: going the other direction requires doing things which are time consuming.23:24
Sarawhen you have them both installed and you want to reinstall windows. how are you going to manage that L3top23:24
Ben64lolseriously: don't make me drive to pomona23:25
Saraext4 still there23:25
lolseriouslydamn you scary23:25
Sarawindows cannot format in ext 423:25
lolseriouslybut seriously, no need to kick me..23:25
jhutchins_wkSara: Ok, if it's still there then you can boot to a rescue disk and restore grub.23:25
lolseriouslyI'm not asking about mint here23:25
CelsoSara, in wich OS you are?23:25
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, are you alive?23:25
L3topyou reinstall windows on the recognized partition, then boot to a live disk... then chroot the install after binding a lot, then updating grub...23:25
L3topSara: ^23:25
Saraubuntu 12.04 -windows 7 dual boot23:26
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Of course I'm alive. Et tu, Brute? ::dies::23:26
nomodesetL3top: Windows does not understand linux -> Windows does not want linux23:26
Drumrollwindows doesn't understand windows23:26
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Anyway, you're stuck in a console, right?23:26
CelsoSara, curently, you are using the ubuntu? Now?23:26
L3topRegardless of cause... their bootloader is not created to accept linux... so you must boot to windows via a linux boot loader23:26
jhutchins_wkSara: You appear to be in Calgary.  What is your native language?23:26
Sarafrom live usb celso23:26
WoozieAlright, just installed nvidia-current and rebooting23:27
Saravancouver Persian why?23:27
jhutchins_wkSara: We're having a little trouble understanding you, but we'll try harder.23:27
L3topSarah... don't answer personal questions. One moment...23:27
gmulak_Hello  I am sure it is an oft asked question - but - I don't know the answer and could use some help.  What Ubuntu distro will work best on an Atom Dual core processor with 1GB memory?23:27
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, yep, logged to console23:28
jhutchins_wkL3top: I was hoping we might find a native language channel, but not for Persian.23:28
CelsoSara, in ubuntu, open the computer folder and what do you see?23:28
Saraok L3top you right23:28
SonikkuAmericagmulak_: Just about anything, I'll bet. What's the speed of your Atom?23:28
jhutchins_wkSara: Is there a reason you can't install grub from the console as has been suggested above?23:28
histogmulak_: I'd run something like lubuntu or xubuntu23:28
RamtronI give up. I have no drivers, how do I get them back on 12.04?23:28
histogmulak_: lubuntu being the lightest23:28
gmulak_sonikkuamerica - I am not sure.  I knew you were going to ask...  :-(23:28
jhutchins_wkgmulak_: No reason not to run ubuntu on that.23:29
gmulak_histo - the latest distro?  Which is?23:29
L3topI wasn't attempting to evaluate your reasons jhutchins_wk... just suggesting personal information is not ever necessary... I understand the language question... and a valid one... just... I dunno sayin.23:29
Kurukurufor some reason, I can't access PPA for super-boot-manager - anyone know why?23:29
histogmulak_: All of the variations aare current.  What sort of GPU do you have in that box?23:29
jhutchins_wkRamtron: Drivers for what?23:29
gmulak_histo - I have not heard of lubuntu   --  I am going to take it to SCALE23:29
CelsoBy the way, when i open software center, isn't suposed to use de icon that already is on the bar and not opening another? or when open, it uses another icon?23:29
RamtronLiterally everything23:30
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Type [ sudo jockey ] in the console and tell me what happens.23:30
nomodesetjhutchins_wk: windows23:30
histogmulak_: What type of video card is it?23:30
k1lKurukuru: the ppa is down? they have no packages for your release?23:30
Sara640 GB hard disk acer- 640 harddisk system reserved- file system. celso23:30
gmulak_histo - the GPU is not very powerful.  Not a lot of graphic power23:30
histogmulak_: take it to SCALE?23:30
histogmulak_: What kind is it? Do you know?23:30
Kurukurusudo add-apt-repository ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager23:30
Sarafiles system is supposed to contain all my files but it does not23:30
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, sudo jockey-gtk spitted the runtime error23:30
Kurukurugives me an internet connection message23:31
k1lKurukuru: pastebin the messages please23:31
gmulak_histo - It's on a mini itx board I want to say a D2500?  Does that sound right?23:31
Ben64Sara: you currently do not have ubuntu installed on your computer, if you would like to dual boot, you need to install ubuntu23:31
Celsosara, isn't seperated in more partitions?23:31
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Right. [ sudo jockey ] alone should give you a text-based version of the program.23:31
histogmulak_: Doesn't really sound right.  Is it intel based or nvidia?23:31
gmulak_histo - Intel based23:32
histogmulak_: Like i've seen atom boards with nvidia ion chips23:32
xiusso I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.23:32
WoozieSonikkuAmerica: no such co23:32
Sarawhat do you mean seperated? ubuntu and windows are in diferent partitions23:32
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gmulak_histo - no, I do know that much, it is intel based23:32
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: OK, try [ sudo startx ]23:32
histogmulak_: Let's put it this way it will run ubuntu.   Your issue is going to be ram consumption.  You could try to mitigate the issue by using a 32bit version23:32
Sara300gb win 300gb ubuntu23:32
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, no such command23:32
histogmulak_: Or go with a lighter variant of ubuntu like xubuntu or lubuntu23:33
BrewsterOk so a while ago I attemted to update my nvidia drivers not knowing my graphics card was supported. The update succeeded but I was left with a terminal log in screen. I wiped everything and reinstalled ubuntu but now I can't keep anything on for more than 10 minutes or my graphics card sizzles and I lose the display. If I turn everything off and wait a bit everything works fine for23:33
Brewsteranother 10 minutes. Does anyone have a clue as to how I might fix this?23:33
gmulak_histo - OK.  I don't think I can add ram.  I know xubuntu - what is lubuntu?23:33
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WoozieSonikkuAmerica, NVIDIA input/output error23:33
SonikkuAmericaI have a ? of my own: Is it possible to change the behavior of Ctrl+Alt+Delete in the GUI?23:33
Wooziesame as always23:33
CelsoSara, now enter on that 300 gb ubuntu partition and tell me what is inside.23:33
histogmulak_: lubuntu is lxde based23:34
Brewsteron top of that I would like to ask: Does nvidia have problems with ubuntu or does ubuntu have problems with nvidia?23:34
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Hmmm...23:34
gmulak_OK - cool  Thank you very much!23:34
daftykinsBrewster: so since you reinstalled, what driver are you using?23:34
nomodesetwhere can i enable transparencies ?23:34
Brewsteroh wasn't*23:35
CelsoSara, but i would advise you to grab a live cd or usb and to reinstall the ubuntu again23:35
Brewsterdaftykins: well I switched back to the drivers that I previously had nvidia-current-updates23:35
daftykinsBrewster: do you know your card?23:35
Saracannot mount it celso it does not find ubuntu partions anymore23:35
Ben64Brewster: do you have dual gpu? like intel and nvidia23:36
Kurukuruk1l, http://pastebin.ca/230909423:36
histogmulak_: just make sure you use 32bit version with that little ram.  Also what is SCALE?23:36
Celsoit only says 600gb?23:36
Brewsterdaftykins: geforce 7950... I didn't get the memo that they stopped making linux drivers for geforce 723:36
xiusso I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.23:36
Brewsterand that is the only graphics card on the computer23:36
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, any ideas?23:36
k1lKurukuru: check the url that is mentioned in that errormsg23:37
k1lKurukuru: the ppa seems gone23:37
Ben64Brewster: you need to use a 304.xx driver for that23:37
jhutchins_wkSara: Is there a reason you can't install grub from the console as has been suggested above?23:37
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: I've never used the NVIDIA drivers; I've been confident with Nouveau.23:37
Kurukuruk1l: So what are my options?23:37
BrewsterI know23:37
Ben64jhutchins_wk: there is no ubuntu installed on the computer23:37
Sarawhere is it suggested?23:37
daftykinsbrb23:38
BrewsterI was using the 304.xx driver before all this nonsense happened23:38
L3topSara: load an ubuntu live disk... once loaded, please pastebin the output of mount23:38
Ben64jhutchins_wk, Sara: installing grub won't help without installing ubuntu first23:38
k1lKurukuru: make sure you typed that ppa right23:38
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, Nouveau causes an complete PC hangup on my laptop.23:38
Ben64Sara: ~~~Install Ubuntu~~~23:38
CelsoBen64 is right. he already realized that much more sooner than me. lol23:38
L3topSara: better yet fdisk -l23:38
Saratell me how to recover files after installing ubuntu?23:38
Ben64Sara: \\\Install Ubuntu///23:38
L3toprecover what files Sara?23:39
histoSara: Wait recover what files?23:39
Kurukuruk1l: looks fine to me23:39
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: I would switch my distro to something else then. Maybe Lubuntu or Xubuntu.23:39
histo!details | Sara23:39
ubottuSara: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:39
Sarafiles that i had on my ubuntu before reinstalling windows and messing up with ubuntu23:39
k1lKurukuru: remove the // at the beginning23:40
Ben64Sara: they're gone23:40
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, this problem is affecting every single 3.x kernel Linux distro.23:40
histoBen64: No their not23:40
histoSara: did you repartition when you installed windows?23:40
Ben64histo: they're* and yes they are. there is no ext4 partition remaining23:40
nomodesetexit23:40
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Really.23:40
jhutchins_wkBen64: There seems to be disagreement.  She had it installed, then she installed Windows.  Windows won't overwrite Ubuntu unless you try really hard.23:40
Kurukuruk1l: whoops yeah, just caught that.. thanks23:40
L3topSara: unless you overwrote the partition... they are NOT gone... you simply cannot boot to Ubuntu to access and use them. You need to boot to an Ubuntu LIVE disk... then type sudo fdisk -l... and I can tell you what is what.23:40
histoBen64: So the files are still there23:40
SaraI repartioned when i installed ubuntu in dual boot with win 723:40
Garr255anyone selling btc for bank deposit right now?23:40
nomodesetquit23:41
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, i am currently using MEPIS 11 on 2.6 kernel, but I really need 3.x D;23:41
Saraubuntu was on sda 423:41
Ben64jhutchins_wk: there was a pastebin with fdisk -l and a bunch of other good stuff, ubuntu is most definitely not installed23:41
Saraits gone anyway im going to reinstall it again23:41
histoSara: STOP23:41
L3topSara... becuase WINDOWS does not see it... does not mean it is gone23:41
Celsopeople, but how the heck she on ubuntu live usb cant access the 300 gb? it says cant mout23:41
SonikkuAmericaWoozie: Are you using Ubuntu Server?23:41
L3topPLEASE BOOT TO UBUNTU LIVE DISK23:41
histoSara: You can still recover your files using photorec23:41
Ben64oh my god you guys23:41
jhutchins_wkL3top: She's reportedly on some rescue USB.23:41
Saraubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$23:41
Ben64there is no ext4 partition23:41
histoBen64: Will you please stop giving bad advice. You can use data recovery tools to save her files.23:42
Saranothing happend L3top23:42
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, no, currenty using 12.04 LTS desktop23:42
L3topSara: sudo fdisk -l23:42
histoBen64: Doens't matter if the partition is there or not23:42
L3topfdisk does not work without root priv23:42
Ben64histo: ok fine, you do it then23:42
Sarahttp://pastebin.com/2qvyLpFU23:42
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SonikkuAmericaWoozie: So going to Ubuntu 12.10 causes your NVIDIA card to go bonkers.23:42
Guest1093@seek alastair reynolds23:42
histoSara: Please listen to me. Boot a ubuntu live cd imediately.  Install the testdisk package.  Use photorec to scan the drive and recover your files.     If they are that necessary. If you can deal with losing them then it's not worh the time.23:43
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, no, i wanted to say that I was trying to use 12.04. Only distros that fully works are these with 2.6 kernel23:44
L3topSara, it appears as though you have chunked your linux install.23:44
L3tophisto: if it was an ext4 partition... I find your advice unusable...23:44
jhutchins_wkhisto: Does it occur to you to wonder how the files got erased?23:44
histoL3top: IT IS NOT23:44
histoyou people really need to understand data recovery tools.23:44
Sarawhy i do that eveytime install windows. I did exactly what was written on boot repair page23:45
jhutchins_wkL3top: It does not appear that she has a valid ubuntu partition.23:45
L3topSara: it has to do with the options you select for the windows install23:45
L3topCorrect jhutchins_wk23:45
jhutchins_wkL3top: Check the pastebin.23:45
Saraall recommended option ididnot change anything23:46
L3tophisto... I am familiar. actual recovery on ext3+ is... a time vampire... and never works. In my experience.23:46
histoSara: if you told windows to use the entire disk this would have happened. Also windows overwrote the mbr.23:46
histoL3top: if you scna a drive sector by sector for headers of a file it doesn't really matter.  You're not understanding.23:46
jhutchins_wkhisto: Note that there are two NTFS partitions.  That's not standard.23:46
CelsoSara, with 2 partitions, one for windows (ntfs) and other for ubuntu (ext4), when reinstalling windows, you only need to choose ntfs partition. never touch on the ext4 partition.23:47
histojhutchins_wk: windows 7 uses a boot partition23:47
Sarawindows does not ask about partition its preload23:47
L3tophisto: the partition is gone. recovering an ext4 after a windows partition... is a thing of legend.23:47
histoL3top: No it's not.23:47
jhutchins_wkSara: Are you using a Windows install disk or are you using a system restore disk from the manufacturer?23:47
L3tophisto: source.23:48
jhutchins_wkhisto: MSCE here, I agree with L3top23:48
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histoL3top: I should clarify. You are talking about recovering the partition.  That will be an issue. But carving files out is not.23:48
daftykinsMCSE too? :)23:48
Brewsterso...23:48
histoL3top: since she asked how do i recover my files. I was explaining how.23:48
Sarano disk . its preload on my computer I boot into windows installation using alt+F#23:48
Brewsterany words of advice?23:48
jhutchins_wkdaftykins: And dyslexic to boot!23:49
jhutchins_wkBingo.23:49
daftykinsjhutchins_wk: :)23:49
L3tophisto, the files were wiped by a windows install... the partition is no longer there... this is not a recovery issue anymore imo.23:49
Saraand yes its from manufacturer23:49
histoSara: Yeah that will blow out any partitions you previously created. They usually work by disk image23:49
Celsoproblem is detected XD23:49
jhutchins_wkSara: That restore process is what's killing ubuntu - it's putting the disk back the way it was when you got it.23:49
histoL3top: You are missinformed.  Only some of the files have been replaced.23:49
Sarayeah i just need to know how to prevent it for next time23:50
histoL3top: mostlike the files for the linux system not /home23:50
L3topTHE PARTITION TABLE IS...23:50
L3topsigh23:50
L3tophisto: source.23:50
jhutchins_wkSara: You should be able to reinstall Ubuntu, but if you run that restore again it will be gone again.23:50
histoL3top: WHO CARES ABOUT THE PARTITION TABLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FILES23:50
Ben64everyone, relax23:50
L3tophisto: soruce23:50
L3topsource*23:50
jhutchins_wkSara: You need some other way to restore Windows if you need to do it and keep Ubuntu.23:50
Ben64histo: recovery is a dubious proposition at best23:50
histoBen64: L3top I will bet you both 1k that I can recover files from that drive.23:51
CelsoBen64, I have beer, eurodance music, so, more relaxed than this is impossible :P23:51
jhutchins_wkhisto: The Windows restore wrote over the Ubuntu partition.23:51
Ben64even if some files still remain, they're likely to be fragmented and unusable23:51
daftykinsA lot of you right now are making the person asking the question suffer by enduring your little domestic rant. Go and walk around for a while to calm down and let someone else take over so you're no longer letting your personality get in the way.23:51
histojhutchins_wk: Yeap I know.23:51
Sarawll im trying testtdisk for now23:51
jhutchins_wkhisto: No point in attempting recovery at this point.23:51
SonikkuAmericaHere, let me step in.23:52
jhutchins_wkSara: testdisk is not going to help.23:52
histoBen64: L3top jhutchins_wk This is what I do for a living but go ahead and missinform people.23:52
histojhutchins_wk: but photorec will23:52
SonikkuAmericaWhat's the deal here?23:52
L3tophisto: source. (ps you are not a source)23:52
jhutchins_wkSara: Let me explain again:  The restore process os what killed Ubuntu.  Ubuntu isn't there any more.23:52
Ben64histo: i'm not misinforming anyone23:52
histoL3top: google file carving23:52
histoThis is not some new technology.23:52
jhutchins_wkSara: You can re-install Ubuntu, but if you restore Windows it will destroy Ubuntu again.23:52
histoWindows merely overwrote some of the disk. Most likely the first part where windows was already installed23:53
Woozie!google | histo23:53
ubottuhisto: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.23:53
L3tophisto: to ask for a source, cannot be adequetely fulfilled by asking me to find your source.23:53
SonikkuAmericaWhat is this talk of destroying Ubuntu?23:53
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jhutchins_wkSonikkuAmerica: Windows system restore.23:53
xiusso I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.23:53
SonikkuAmericajhutchins_wk, that won't destroy Ubuntu.23:53
histoI really dont' care belive what you want to believe. If you are too lazy to google data carving I really can't help. I don't have the time or the patience to argue with you all anymore.23:53
frowniCan someone help me with slowing the mouse a bit :)23:53
jhutchins_wkSonikkuAmerica: Yes, in this case at least, it restores the original partitions and reimages them.23:54
histo!info scalpel | L3top jhutchins_wk Ben6423:54
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, Sara restored Windows fron recovery partition23:54
ubottuL3top jhutchins_wk Ben64: scalpel (source: scalpel): A Frugal, High Performance File Carver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.60-1build1 (quantal), package size 33 kB, installed size 115 kB23:54
frowniMouse settings are at the lowest speed already, but it's still fast.23:54
SonikkuAmericaLike a factory image?23:54
histo!info testdisk | L3top jhutchins_wk Ben6423:54
ubottuL3top jhutchins_wk Ben64: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.13-1ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 516 kB, installed size 1201 kB23:54
histoHey also includes photorec in the testdisk package.23:54
Saraso how can i install windows without erasing ubuntu partions?23:54
Ben64SonikkuAmerica: yes, a factory recovery cd/dvd23:54
histoI have to go for a bit.23:54
histobrb23:54
SonikkuAmericaOh.23:54
jhutchins_wkhisto: Please stop.  Unless she had personal data on the system it's much smarter to just reinstall.23:54
Ben64Sara: why do you need to install windows so often?23:54
jhutchins_wkBen64: because Windows.23:55
SaraI got a virus this time23:55
Ben64windows 7 isn't as bad about stuff like that anymore23:55
gmulak_histo:  SCALe is Southern California Linux Expo - Here:  http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x23:55
Saraand my autocad stoped working23:55
Ben64Sara: you should use antivirus software in windows :)23:55
bluntedIs it a bug if a package pushback breaks my hosting companies kernel config? I think there is a bug here but not sure23:55
Celsofrowni, wireless mouse?23:55
SaraI do avast23:55
gskelligbrightness buttons still not working on my laptop. Anybody have ideas? ubuntu 12.10, asus UL30vt laptop23:55
daftykinsSara: do you download illegal stuff on it all the time or something?23:55
WoozieFormatting a HDD isn't a way to delete viruses23:56
gskelligthe OSD goes up and down but the brightness stays the same23:56
Saranope.23:56
frowniCelso, nope, wired23:56
frowniCelso, wired hp mouse23:56
Saradafty what kind of question is that23:56
frownicelso, plain simple one :P23:56
daftykinsa genuine one23:56
Celsogskelling, your graphics card?23:56
Celsook frowni, wait a minute23:56
daftykinsSara: i just don't see win7 getting affected that often23:56
gskelligGT218M and also intel HD100023:56
SonikkuAmericaSara: See my message query.23:56
Celsook frowni, see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/133611/how-do-i-slow-down-my-wireless-mouse?rq=123:57
Celsowich one you are using gskellig?23:57
L3tophisto... familiar... packages are not sources. I do forensic data recovery. I use helix primarily. I am familiar with carving. You are unable to provide a "how to" sort of source... because there isn't one, once ext4 is overwritten by windows. We are in different animal territory.23:57
gskelligcelso well, I want to use both. With bumblebee (nvidia optimus for linux)23:58
jhutchins_wkSara: Since the windows restore is always going to kill Ubuntu (unless you put ubuntu on a seperate drive), you need an alternative method like a good image backup - easy to do from Ubuntu.23:58
gskelligbut by default use the intel one23:58
L3topIt CAN be done... but... you need equipment and time and skill... at this point... this is not sound advice... and I do not accept at face value, you have it.23:58
Celsook. i am not very familiar with the bumblebee stuff but try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123604/how-do-i-make-screen-dimming-work-in-ubuntu-12-04-beta-223:58
jhutchins_wkSara: I would recommend using avg instead of avast for anti-virus.  The windows system protection stuff is pretty good too.23:58
Celsoi curently use vgaswitcheroo.23:58
WoozieSonikkuAmerica, thanks for help, got to go and crowl Internet for fixes, bye :]23:59
bluntedOptimus on Linux, yayayaya thank you sara23:59
Celsofrowni, did it worked?23:59
gskelligis vgaswitcheroo updated recently?23:59
gskelligI'm up for anything to be honest23:59
gskelligas long as its easy to use23:59

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