[00:00] <Frozenthia> : (
[00:00] <SalMi> Any hackers here ?! :/
[00:00] <histo> gmachine_24: Grub doesn't remain if you install windows.  It installs it's bootloader to the mbr
[00:00] <gmachine_24> histo, not in my experience.
[00:00] <ESphynx> millennia: lolz
[00:00] <gmachine_24> histo, Grub remains.
[00:00] <SalMi> HELLLLO
[00:00] <Frozenthia> Is Kubuntu a forbidden topic? I need help. : S
[00:00] <histo> gmachine_24: sure in windows fdisk /mbr   would write it's bootloader.  Or whatever they are using now. fixmbr I think
[00:00] <SalMi> ;D
[00:00] <sevensixtwo> SalMi, do you expect people to raise their hand?
[00:00] <ESphynx> It's installing :P
[00:01] <histo> gmachine_24: fixmbr c:   from a windows cd will overwrite it.
[00:01] <SalMi> just messing around duude :P\
[00:01] <SalMi> hmmm
[00:01] <histo> gmachine_24: However I would write zero's to the drive. People like me could recover your old files even after you loaded windows if you don't
[00:01] <Frozenthia> Well, thanks for the help. >_>
[00:01] <gmachine_24> SalMi this is not 4chan. Do you have an Ubuntu question or problem?
[00:02] <SalMi> Yah
[00:02] <gmachine_24> histo, yes, I know. I overwrite all drives. Just trying something new.
[00:02] <sam555> hello all!
[00:02] <SalMi> How do u change ur background :$
[00:02] <histo> lol
[00:02] <gmachine_24> SalMi, do you mean desktop?
[00:02] <SalMi> Yah .. desktop background
[00:02] <gmachine_24> sam555, questions and problems, please.
[00:02] <SalMi> How ..
[00:02] <sam555> I want to change a password that is very similar to the one I just entered, but it won't let me.  How do I get past this?
[00:02] <lucas_> Hello friends, I am having difficulty using some symbols in Ubuntu.Example: ¬ or §
[00:03] <gmachine_24> SalMi, preferences>desktop settings or right click on the desktop
[00:03] <SalMi> SHIT NO !!!
[00:03] <SalMi> :P
[00:03] <FloodBot1> SalMi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <gmachine_24> language please
[00:03] <barrett> man this channel is usually packed...
[00:03] <SalMi> Sorry :P
[00:04] <SalMi> Waz just messing around guys ..
[00:04] <SalMi> Btw
[00:04] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[00:04] <gmachine_24> sam555, you want to change an existing password to a new one?
[00:04] <SalMi> is the Ubuntu for android phone has the same as the Ubuntu phone operating system ?
[00:04] <SalMi> :$
[00:05] <histo> !phone | SalMi
[00:05] <mernilio> why havent i been here before? you all seem like a nice bunch! :-)
[00:05] <ESphynx> this is awesome. love how changing compiz settings render my desktop unusable
[00:05] <SalMi> Ohhh .. THANKS DUUDE :D
[00:05] <gmachine_24> guys, come on, questions and problems. this is not a social chat room.
[00:05] <barrett> can anyone help me figure out why my mdadm raid5 isn't coming on line?
[00:05] <gmachine_24> !offtopic or whatever
[00:06] <mernilio> sorry! ;-)
[00:06] <w0rm-_x> gmachine_24, it is both
[00:06] <gmachine_24> ubottu, it never occurred to me.
[00:06] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, thinking of getting rid of it, too buggy
[00:06] <lucas_> Hello friends, I have some difficulty for using some symbols in Ubuntu. For example: ¬ or §. How to configure the keyboard correctly for that?
[00:06] <ESphynx> w0rm-_x: Unity? it's the worst
[00:06] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, compiz
[00:07] <ESphynx> well compiz was OK until Unity came along :P
[00:08] <SalMi> I think unity is a gr8 interface :P
[00:08] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, I don't know if the existence of both would create a conflict, only started to have problems when setting Compiz up..
[00:09] <ESphynx> w0rm-_x: hmm compiz normally comes with ubuntu/unity does it not?
[00:09] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, no
[00:09] <ESphynx> It does for me?
[00:09] <SalMi> well its not buggy here .. I have an i5 intel quad core processor, 8 gb ram and Radeon 6570
[00:09] <SalMi> Works gr8 for me .. not buggy at all
[00:09] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, that's weird
[00:09] <w0rm-_x> SalMi, which one?
[00:10] <SalMi> Wht do u mean which one ? :P Unity .. sorry for my english :/
[00:10] <w0rm-_x> I'm thinking of shutting the whole Ubuntu thing off and switch to Debian
[00:10] <_lucas_br_> Hello friends, I have some difficulty for using some symbols in Ubuntu. For example: ¬ or §. How to configure the keyboard correctly for that?
[00:11] <SalMi> Guys can someone answer that lucas guy he has been asking the same question for like 15 minutes ...
[00:11] <andros> exit
[00:11] <barrett> where is everyone?
[00:12] <histo> !patience _lucas_br_ SalMi
[00:12] <w0rm-_x> _lucas_br_, what do you mean by difficulty?
[00:12] <histo> !patience | _lucas_br_ SalMi
[00:12] <gmachine_24> barrett, everyone as in . . . .
[00:12] <_lucas_br_> Okay...
[00:12] <w0rm-_x> !patience | histo
[00:12] <SalMi> can i swear here ?! :P
[00:13] <Pici> no
[00:13] <histo> w0rm-_x: I don't think you will be pleased with debian. If you want ot take a break for awhile and try something completely different check out Arch
[00:13] <sam555> gmachine_24: I won't to change the password to something very similar to the previous password, but it won't let me because its too similar.  How do I bypass this?
[00:13] <histo> !botabuse | w0rm-_x
[00:13] <w0rm-_x> histo, why what's wrong with Debian?
[00:13] <histo> sam555: where are you trying to change this password?
[00:14] <_lucas_br_> w0rm-_x I need to configure the keyboard for these symbols work, and I can not.
[00:14] <histo> _lucas_br_: can you use alt codes?
[00:15] <histo> _lucas_br_: under keyboard > layout > layout options > compose key   I believe is what you are looking for
[00:15] <ESphynx> ok xubuntu just isn't working
[00:15] <ESphynx> I get this same red backgrond as with unity :S with no dock or anything
[00:16] <ESphynx> still looks like compilz/unity is running :|
[00:16] <w0rm-_x> histo, I don't want something different, just something that is better and has less problems.
[00:16] <sam555> histo: I'm trying to change the password from within the user account.  How would I do it from root?
[00:16] <histo> w0rm-_x: What sort of problems are you having?
[00:16] <blbrown_win3> With ubuntu12.10 when the top window bar is hidden from view, how can I move the window (say with gimp)
[00:16] <Seven_Six_Two> ESphynx, can you open a terminal and type     metacity --replace &
[00:16] <gmachine_24> sam555, http://www.ehow.com/how_5938222_change-password-ubuntu.html
[00:16] <histo> sam555: Change who's passwd?
[00:17] <histo> sam555: you could passwd sam555    in a terminal if sam555 is your username
[00:17] <histo> sam555: if you are logged in as that user just passwd
[00:17] <sam555> histo: I'm changing another admin within the OS.
[00:17] <blbrown_win3> nevermind I went to single window mode
[00:17] <_lucas_br_> histo: Ok
[00:17] <histo> sam555: sudo passwd otherusername
[00:17] <sam555> histo: i used that command, however, it would not let me change it because it was too similar, but I need to make it this particular password.
[00:17] <ESphynx> Seven_Six_Two I couldnt open anything, but in the console I could start xfce...
[00:18] <histo> sam555: can you please pastebin the error you are receiving
[00:18] <w0rm-_x> histo, I keep getting messages stating that there was a problem with the system and keep reporting them without a respond, also Ubuntu gets stuck when shutting it down while the other OSs does not
[00:18] <ESphynx> Where can I configure to run an xfce session instead?
[00:18] <sam555> it worked histo!!!
[00:18] <barrett> gmachine_24, sorry, i'm frustrated because usually its packed in here and my raid array... is not assembling, and i'm panicking and nobody seems to have any advice
[00:18] <histo> sam555: I don't know where you were thinking it was too similiar that should not be an issue
[00:19] <sam555> histo: thanks much.  It was the sudo passwd otherusername that worked
[00:19] <sam555> histo: when I did just passwd, it would give me that error
[00:19] <sam555> thanks for the save
[00:19] <histo> sam555: What error? I've never seen that.
[00:19] <ESphynx> well metacity looks like a nice WM
[00:19] <sam555> histo: it was saying "password too similar"
[00:19] <sam555> something like that
[00:20] <histo> sam555: ahh yeah it does
[00:20] <usr13> ESphynx: There is startxfce4 lightdm etc.  Depends on how you want to start it.
[00:20] <ESphynx> (Yay I got performance back!)
[00:20] <usr13> ESphynx: From the console, startxfce4
[00:21] <ESphynx> the desktop is in a poor state, but once I'm in and metacity and xfce4-session is started everything is good
[00:21] <ESphynx> I was going nuts over the sluggish interface earlier
[00:21] <ESphynx> hope things work better out of the box in VirtualBox for 13.04!!
[00:21] <usr13> ESphynx: What sluggish interface was that?
[00:21] <ESphynx> usr13: that was the default Quantal installed in VirtualBox
[00:22] <usr13> ESphynx: Oh, ok.
[00:22] <ESphynx> Precise worked much much much better.
[00:22] <histo> ESphynx: any reason you need 12.10?
[00:22] <ESphynx> histo Yes I'm trying to test/fix problems for Quantal
[00:23] <ham1> :q
[00:23] <ham1> :q
[00:30] <shufflebot> I have a noob-ish ubuntu permissions problem. https://gist.github.com/9b9246c46ff26f6b2b90 <-- why
[00:31] <Pici> shufflebot: directories need to be executable for them to be traversed into
[00:31] <Ben64> shufflebot: you should really use sudo instead of running around as root
[00:33] <apos> ^^
[00:33] <genoobie> hey all
[00:33] <genoobie> looking for a stripped down distro that runs lightweight for a PIII 800MHz, and 384MB ram (laptop)
[00:33] <apos> xubuntu
[00:33] <shufflebot> Ben64: sudo -i dude ;p
[00:33] <genoobie> apos, xubuntu is a bit laggy...
[00:34] <apos> because you have 384 ram.
[00:34] <KI4RO> Is there a way to tell the software center onto which drive to install software?
[00:34] <Ben64> shufflebot: but then you used su
[00:34] <genoobie> right, but I was thinking just plain old, twm and a simplified de
[00:34] <histo> Pici: in his example puppet is x for user puppet
[00:34] <Pici> histo: but git is in the puppet group.
[00:34] <genoobie> I am running puppylinux and I'm not entirely unhappy with it
[00:34] <apos> your going to have to either use a very old distro from that era, or add a lil more ram
[00:35] <histo> Pici: ahh
[00:35] <genoobie> so apos if I bumped it up to 512MB (max) xubuntu might work nicely?
[00:35] <histo> shufflebot: puppet folder is only x for the user not the g
[00:35] <Ben64> genoobie: you could try lubuntu too
[00:36] <Ben64> not sure which is lighter
[00:36] <genoobie> ben64, I did but the video detect was borked....
[00:36] <genoobie> lubuntu
[00:36] <apos> genoobie,  yes. also it would be a good idea to adjust the "swappiness" so it wont use swap untill it absolutely has to
[00:36] <shufflebot> Ben64: yeah because I'm switching users
[00:36] <apos> lubuntu has more artwork
[00:36] <genoobie> apos more artwork than xubuntu?
[00:36] <apos> yes
[00:37] <genoobie> hmm...I have lubuntu installed on another laptop and it seems reasonable
[00:37] <genoobie> but that laptop is a dual core 1gb
[00:37] <genoobie> anyhow, apos, lubuntu, xubuntu anything more streamlined DE?
[00:37] <histo> Ben64: su = switch user
[00:37] <Ben64> histo: i know...
[00:38] <genoobie> okay, so suppose I go with lubuntu, I have a *nix that has some drivers
[00:38] <apos> no dm and just run in terminal?
[00:38] <apos> lubuntu is fine. just adjust the swapiness
[00:38] <genoobie> should I get a printout of vendors (lspci) before I install lubuntu so the drivers work ok?
[00:39] <apos> if xubuntu works, im sure lubuntu will work
[00:39] <genoobie> yeah, xubuntu didn't quite work b/c of b43 legacy driver for wireless
[00:40] <apos> remove any and all unessesary startup apps and adjust the swapiness.
[00:40] <genoobie> so apos last thing
[00:40] <genoobie> 12.10?
[00:40] <usr13> genoobie: What does a DE have to do with a WiFi driver?
[00:40] <genoobie> usr13, shouldn't have anything to do with it, but one *ntu install worked, the other didn't
[00:40] <genoobie> all same params
[00:41] <genoobie> md5s ok
[00:41] <apos> 12.10 is working fine for me. just make sure your keeping up with the updates as always
[00:41] <genoobie> okay, good enough
[00:41] <genoobie> I could use the graphical installer but it wants lots of mem
[00:41] <genoobie> planning to bump up ram to 512
[00:41] <usr13> genoobie: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:42] <genoobie> tx usr13
[00:42] <genoobie> okay, I am off to install!
[00:42] <genoobie> tx and gnite!
[00:45] <histo> apos: there are lighter options than lxde btw.
[00:45] <apos> i would never recommend lxde to begin with
[00:46] <histo> apos: were'nt you guys talking about lubuntu? that's lxde
[00:46] <apos> i told him to use xfce
[00:46] <apos> he wanted lubuntu
[00:47] <unsobill> guys
[00:47] <unsobill> where to drill if I to change my default telnet client
[00:47] <unsobill> ubuntu 12.4
[00:47] <apos> drill?
[00:47] <unsobill> basically i got web-interface that should start telnet windows
[00:48] <unsobill> but it just doesnt open telnet promt ...
[00:48] <unsobill> plz hurry guys :(
[00:48] <apos> use gksudo instead?
[00:49] <unsobill_> gksudo for what ?
[00:49] <histo> unsobill: I don't think you want to change your default telnet app. To do so you would update-alternatives --config telnet
[00:50] <histo> unsobill_: ^^ Although this doesn't sound like your issue
[00:50] <unsobill_> its basically a web form thats calling this command : telnet://xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:2000
[00:51] <dharrison> hi how can i find out how much swap space i have from terminal
[00:51] <unsobill_> on windows associations works and telnet window opens up
[00:51] <unsobill_> df -h ?
[00:51] <Ben64> dharrison: free -m
[00:51] <unsobill_> free -m :D right
[00:52] <histo> unsobill_: Okay well that's browser dependant
[00:52] <ItsMe__> My wireless driver doesn't work on Ubuntu 12.10,  Notebook is HP g6-2206et, what can I do ?
[00:52] <unsobill_> histo...
[00:52] <histo> unsobill_: unsobill_ ...
[00:52] <unsobill_> i need something :D plz help
[00:52] <unsobill_> u suggest using different browser ?
[00:53] <histo> !details would help. | unsobill_
[00:53] <Ben64> unsobill: just open a terminal and type "telnet 1.2.3.4"
[00:53] <histo> !dtailes | unsobill_  This would help.
[00:53] <unsobill_> ben telnet works
[00:53] <unsobill_> trying firefox
[00:53] <Ben64> unsobill: then use telnet
[00:53] <histo> !details | unsobill_  This would help.
[00:53] <unsobill_> i was running it under chrome
[00:53] <histo> unsobill_: In windows or linux?
[00:53] <unsobill_> ubuntu
[00:54] <unsobill_> nothing - same result on firefox as chrome
[00:54] <unsobill_> terminal window not being activated
[00:54] <unsobill_> arfgh
[00:54] <unsobill_> i can open terminal and easily telnet but command from browser doesnt work
[00:54] <histo> unsobill_: What webform?
[00:54] <unsobill_> u want tv ?
[00:55] <unsobill_> its basically lab farm
[00:55] <unsobill_> that has lots of devices to telnet to
[00:55] <unsobill_> u pick one - click open console to it and voila - terminal opens up with telnet connection to it
[00:55] <unsobill_> thats how it is on windows :(
[00:55] <histo> unsobill_: yeah with internet explorer maybe
[00:55] <unsobill_> nah with firefox and chrome
[00:56] <unsobill_> i suspect i has to do with this command :
[00:56] <unsobill_> telnet://xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx
[00:56] <unsobill_> basically ubuntu has no idea what to do with association "telnet://"
[00:56] <unsobill_> tghats my uneducated guess
[00:56] <histo> unsobill_: It's not that ubuntu doesn't but the browsers don't
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> unsobill, correction: the browsers don't know the connection.
[00:57] <unsobill_> should browser ask OS about associations then...
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> unsobill, ubuntu doesn't dictate a browser's interpretation of URL prefixes (telnet://, IRC:// etc.(
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> at least not afaikl
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> file associations, maybe.  prefix associations, don't think so.
[00:58] <unsobill_> awesome then i need to manually use my gnome connection manager to manually telnet to 30 devices
[00:58] <histo> unsobill_: Have you thought about installing an extension in chrome or firefox?
[00:58] <unsobill_> hmm
[00:58] <unsobill_> perhaps may work
[00:58] <histo> unsobill_: here's one froma  quick google search http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Google-Chrome-Extensions/Telnet-77530.shtml  Althought I would just look int he play store.
[00:59] <histo> unsobill_: also you could add hostnames for each ip.. Then just telnet whateverhostname   in a terminal
[00:59] <unsobill_> i guess i just use terminal manager if nothing else would work fine
[01:00] <unsobill_> no time for drilling
[01:00] <histo> unsobill_: I would look for an extension.
[01:00] <unsobill_> im on ubuntu - no luxury of simplicity :D
[01:00] <histo> unsobill_: would take less than a few minutes.
[01:00] <unsobill_> i installed it
[01:00] <unsobill_> its like 2x2 black box
[01:00] <unsobill_> :D
[01:00] <unsobill_> running in webform
[01:01] <histo> unsobill_: I recomended searching googles extensions. That was just he first one I saw on some 3rd party site.
[01:01] <unsobill_> i just stick to gnome connection manager and will wrrite script to telnet to 30 devices and open 30 windows there...
[01:01] <massey_> Hey, so a while ago I installed skype and while apt-get told me the installation failed the program worked fine. However, now when I try to use apt-get I'm told that certain packages conflict with one another and to run `apt-get -f install` to fix the problem
[01:01] <kitten_mittens> guyss
[01:01] <unsobill_> weird really that theres no way to associate prefix like that
[01:01] <massey_> This is what happens when I run said command http://pastebin.com/6WGFnT6B
[01:01] <unsobill_> in windows u can...
[01:01] <unsobill_> anyway
[01:01] <massey_> any ideas how to fix my package manager?
[01:01] <histo> unsobill_: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-extensions/telnet
[01:01] <kitten_mittens> its been over a week now and i havent been able to get ubuntu to work on my laptop or pc
[01:02] <histo> unsobill_: In windows you get viruses and adware also
[01:02] <unsobill_> true :D
[01:02] <unsobill_> anyway histo i insalled that one
[01:02] <unsobill_> its fine
[01:02] <kitten_mittens> i thought it was working fine of my pc, i just updated and now im stuck on the purple ubuntu screen
[01:02] <Ben64> i dunno, i clicked a telnet link in firefox and it asked me what to do with it
[01:02] <unsobill_> see
[01:02] <unsobill_> i had that too
[01:02] <kitten_mittens> like its frozen...
[01:02] <unsobill_> but then i press save settings whaever
[01:02] <unsobill_> BEN does it open telnet window in terminal ?
[01:03] <unsobill_> i guess my settings saved now how do i reset ?
[01:03] <kitten_mittens> can anyone help me?
[01:03] <unsobill_> reinstall chrome
[01:03] <unsobill_> kitten whats up
[01:03] <unsobill_> kitten burn ubuntu cd with speed of 4
[01:03] <unsobill_> or less
[01:03] <kitten_mittens> i did
[01:04] <kitten_mittens> i also did usb
[01:04] <unsobill_> get disk
[01:04] <unsobill_> that works
[01:04] <Ben64> !enter | unsobill_
[01:04] <unsobill_> harddrive issues perhaps or some driver
[01:04] <kitten_mittens> ut was working all last night untill just dow i updated
[01:04] <histo> kitten_mittens: can you ctrl+akt+F1-F6 and get to a tty?
[01:04] <unsobill_> when u boot do u have different options to load different kernet ?
[01:04] <unsobill_> anyway Ben can u answer ?
[01:04] <Ben64> firefox prefrences
[01:04] <kitten_mittens> no its completely frozen before ubuntu starts
[01:04] <histo> kitten_mittens: ctrl+alt+F1 through F6
[01:05] <unsobill_> in firefox after starting telnet did it worked ?
[01:05] <kitten_mittens> as in.. caps lock wont even turn the capslock light on
[01:05] <histo> kitten_mittens: it's locked up. Boot the computer and hold the shift key before the purple screen.  You should get a grub menu
[01:05] <unsobill_> ben thats it probably firefox settings
[01:05] <unsobill_> let me look applications
[01:06] <unsobill_> ben !!!!
[01:06] <unsobill_> telnet - use KtelnetService (default)
[01:06] <unsobill_> what should i cahnge that to ?
[01:06] <unsobill_> how to find out current default terminal ?
[01:06] <kitten_mittens> its not working
[01:06] <Ben64> i dunno, ask google
[01:06] <unsobill_> arfh :P
[01:06] <Ben64> nobody uses telnet anymore
[01:07] <unsobill_> poop
[01:07] <unsobill_> master
[01:07] <histo> unsobill_: update-alternatives --get-selections
[01:07] <unsobill_> thnx histo
[01:07] <kitten_mittens> *cries*
[01:07] <histo> unsobill_: You can see all your defaults
[01:07] <histo> kitten_mittens: Why cry did you boot to a grub menu yet?
[01:07] <kitten_mittens> it wont work
[01:07] <Ben64> it will
[01:08] <unsobill_> histo, update-alternatives --get-selections
[01:08] <kitten_mittens> it wont
[01:08] <histo> kitten_mittens: What won't work?
[01:08] <unsobill_> oops
[01:08] <kitten_mittens> it just goes streight to the purple screen
[01:08] <unsobill_> histo, telnet auto /usr/bin/telnet.netkit
[01:08] <Ben64> then you need to press shift earlier/more
[01:09] <kitten_mittens> ok it worked.. i went rapid fire on both
[01:09] <histo> unsobill_: yes that's fine
[01:09] <unsobill_> oka ywhats KtelnetService
[01:09] <histo> kitten_mittens: okay do you have more than one option for kernel?
[01:09] <unsobill_> i got that as promt - how can i change it to something that will work lol
[01:09] <histo> kitten_mittens: you can try booting an older one.
[01:09] <kitten_mittens> i dont know what a kennel is but i have ubuntu advanced options for ubuntu and system settup
[01:10] <histo> kitten_mittens: can you take a picture of the screen and paste it?
[01:10] <unsobill_> histo I want to select open with Terminal but its not there...
[01:10] <histo> !paste | kitten_mittens
[01:11] <kitten_mittens> i have no camera
[01:11] <histo> unsobill_: I have no idea what you are talking about.  Just please use a addon for firefox or an extension in chrome.  There are many. That functionality is not built into linux versions of those browsers aparently.
[01:11] <histo> kitten_mittens: cell phone w/ camera?
[01:12] <Ben64> unsobill: you should really google your problem, solution is the first link
[01:12] <histo> Ben64: You may want to tell him what you searched for?
[01:12] <kitten_mittens> theres only 3 options, 'ubuntu', 'advanced options for ubuntu' and 'system settup'
[01:13] <Ben64> "ubuntu open telnet url"
[01:13] <histo> lol
[01:13] <kitten_mittens> and e to edit commands and c for command line
[01:13] <Ben64> its not rocket surgery
[01:13] <histo> kitten_mittens: hold on one second i'm checking something on that.
[01:13] <Guest80061> Hi, I have a question about installing Ubuntu on USB w/ persistent file.  When you're doing updates/saving to folders under home folder/etc. does ubuntu automatically save it to the persistent file(casper-rw)?
[01:13] <histo> kitten_mittens: also what version of ubuntu did you install
[01:13] <kitten_mittens> 12.10
[01:13] <histo> Guest80061: yes
[01:14] <Ben64> did 12.10 change the grub menu?
[01:14] <Guest80061> Another question: How can I get my main hard drive to mount when it won't?
[01:15] <histo> kitten_mittens: do you not see something like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JkW4rtv2kGA/T2iNGdO6MLI/AAAAAAAADUY/0NlBNgwJJgQ/s1600/GRUB2-boot-menu.png
[01:15] <histo> Ben64: man friggen 12.10
[01:15] <Ben64> Guest80061: what do you mean "when it won't"
[01:15] <kitten_mittens> yeah but differnt options
[01:15] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[01:15] <mangdood> What ways are there of changing GNOME 3 settings? I haven't installed it but I'd like to be able to change settings to my preference
[01:15] <histo> kitten_mittens: ahh they changed that in 12.10 select advanced options
[01:16] <kitten_mittens> and my grub is version 2.00-7ubuntu11
[01:16] <Guest80061> When I right click on it from the home folder and click mount I get an error message "unable to mount volume"
[01:16] <ElixirVitae> I was wondering whether setting up a new system from minimal CD and adding packages or deleting certain packages from a normal install have difference.
[01:16] <ElixirVitae> Does it?
[01:16] <histo> kitten_mittens: under advanced options you should be able to select an older kernel version
[01:16] <histo> ElixirVitae: yes gets rid of a lot of bloat
[01:17] <kitten_mittens> ok, theres versions 3.5.0-22 and 3.5.0-17 and both have a recovery option too
[01:17] <histo> ElixirVitae: you can completely customize what's installed
[01:17] <histo> kitten_mittens: slect 3.5.0-17  non-recovery
[01:17] <histo> kitten_mittens: see if the system boots without errors
[01:18] <kitten_mittens> it froze
[01:18] <ElixirVitae> Can't I get rid of the said bloat after install by hunting them down via synaptic?
[01:18] <kitten_mittens> it says loading linux 3.5.0-17-generic... then under it says loading initial ramdisk ... and its frozen
[01:19] <ElixirVitae> I meant normal install, btw.
[01:19] <histo> ElixirVitae: Yeah I guess just a longer way of doing it.
[01:20] <histo> ElixirVitae: like if you are going to just install ubuntu-desktop from a minimal install then there is no difference.
[01:20] <ElixirVitae> I wonder whether they will be more or less equivalent.
[01:20] <histo> ElixirVitae: if you are going to start with a cli system and work up then there would be. I'm sure you'd miss a bunch of stuff going backwards.
[01:20] <ElixirVitae> I sure won't install ubuntu-desktop :)
[01:21] <histo> ElixirVitae: Like what are you trying to accomplish in total?
[01:21] <ElixirVitae> Another question, do configs change between 32 and 64 bit systems?
[01:22] <histo> ElixirVitae: no
[01:22] <ElixirVitae> I want to get a leaner system, and learn more in the process, but wonder whether the hassle would be worth it.
[01:22] <ElixirVitae> If it doesn't give me much benefit, I'd rather install normal and delete some parts.
[01:22] <azbyin> hi all.. How do i ensure that *all* logged in users are able to read/write to a usb disk i have just plugged in?
[01:22] <kitten_mittens> :(
[01:23] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, how do I start an ssh session and then background it?  (And then bring it back to foreground and/or end it when I want to get rid of it)
[01:23] <histo> ElixirVitae: You could always create a virtual machine and install a minimals system and work up.. Ex: install xorg  then whatever de you wanted.  You don't have to use a login manager for instance or you can pick a lighter one.
[01:23] <histo> kitten_mittens: what did it still lock up?
[01:23] <kitten_mittens> it says loading linux 3.5.0-17-generic... then under it says loading initial ramdisk ... and its frozen
[01:23] <histo> kitten_mittens: okay time to try recovery mode
[01:23] <ElixirVitae> Great, I should test it in VM, that way I can check whether my configs carry over seamlessly as well.
[01:24] <kitten_mittens> mm im just googling it first to see why its happening
[01:24] <ElixirVitae> Thanks histo, much appreciated.
[01:24] <histo> JokesOnYou77: ctlr+z    will dump you back to a prompt then type bg   to background
[01:24] <somsip> JokesOnYou77: use something like screen or tmux, if I understand what you need correctly
[01:24] <kitten_mittens> but my nets going super slow, wont load the pages -_-
[01:24] <histo> JokesOnYou77: fg will bring it back to fore ground.
[01:25] <histo> kitten_mittens: could be many things. Bad hardware or software... We hve to test.
[01:25] <kitten_mittens> its not hardware, i have a nevery expensive motherboard that tells me whenever somethings wrong hardware wise
[01:26] <JokesOnYou77> histo, ctrl+z doesn't seem to work with an ssh session
[01:27] <histo> kitten_mittens: I wouldn't rule it out. Since you are experiencing these wierd issues.  But you need to try booting to recovery mode.  It should dump you at a terminal.  Then we can see if all the updates installed properly.
[01:27] <histo> JokesOnYou77: hold up let me try
[01:27] <kitten_mittens> ok
[01:28] <histo> JokesOnYou77: I would use screen then.
[01:28] <histo> JokesOnYou77: I didn't even think that it would forward the ctrl+z to the remote session
[01:28] <histo> duh
[01:29] <histo> JokesOnYou77: if you want to use jobs ie ctrl+z you have to ~ then Ctrl+z
[01:29] <JokesOnYou77> histo, I figured it out.  I can just use & and then fg the job number it gives when I want to get it back :)
[01:30] <histo> JokesOnYou77: ~ is the escape character
[01:30] <histo> JokesOnYou77: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42365/how-do-i-background-an-ssh-session/42367#42367
[01:30] <histo> JokesOnYou77: although you still should checkout screen much more powerfull.
[01:30] <Ben64> yes, screen
[01:31] <JokesOnYou77> histo, thanks.  Yeah, my solution didn't quite seem to work, I could get the ssh session back just with fg but then something funky happened with the prompt
[01:32] <JokesOnYou77> And yes, I realize that screen is generally better but I'm using my GUI atm, and I don't like multiple gui terminal windows running AND screen
[01:32] <histo> JokesOnYou77: when you bring it back hit enter for the screen to redraw. But ~ then ctrl+z works here for me
[01:32] <kitten_mittens> histo im in the recovery menu, now what
[01:32] <histo> JokesOnYou77: What I use is screen on the remote machine.   So I can disconnect the ssh session. Then if I want to come back I just ssh back in and reattach the screen starting where I left off.
[01:33] <histo> kitten_mittens: No under Advanced options for Ubuntu boot one of the (reocover mode) kernels
[01:34] <unsobill> OH GOD FINALLY
[01:34] <unsobill> PUTTY SAVED ME
[01:34] <FloodBot1> unsobill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <kitten_mittens> histo i did, it have me a recovery menu
[01:34] <unsobill> spent 1 hour trying to get firefox to associate telnet or ssh links under ubuntu
[01:34] <unsobill> fuking hell
[01:34] <unsobill> putty FTW
[01:34] <JokesOnYou77> histo, ahhh yes, I see what you mean.  I'm actually starting an ssh session with a dynamically forwarded port to the remot host so I can use it as a SOCKS proxy from browsing on my local host.  I don't have anything to really DO on the remote machine, I just need the tunnel open
[01:35] <histo> JokesOnYou77: then use -N so you don't get a prompt
[01:35] <histo> kitten_mittens: what are your options?
[01:36] <kitten_mittens> resume normal boot, clean, dpkg, grub, network, root, system summery
[01:36] <kitten_mittens> im guessing root? it says drop to root shell promt
[01:36] <JokesOnYou77> histo, perfect! ty :)
[01:36] <histo> kitten_mittens: How is this computer connected to network?
[01:36] <kitten_mittens> wireless
[01:37] <histo> kitten_mittens: is there a netroot option?
[01:37] <JokesOnYou77> histo, w8, but that doesn't give me back my local prompt :/
[01:37] <ekristen> are their any web based repo management tools?
[01:37] <kitten_mittens> no
[01:37] <ekristen> also is there any way to run a repo mirror but be able to approve/disapprove packages before allowing servers to download them?
[01:37] <histo> kitten_mittens: what's under network?  Can you configure your network card. And then drop to root shell that would be the goal here. Sorry it's been awhile since i've been in there.
[01:38] <kitten_mittens> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/fixsudoprecise03.jpg
[01:38] <ekristen> I'm looking to run several ubuntu servers internally in a production env, and want to control which packages get advertised for update
[01:38] <histo> kitten_mittens: yeah enable networking and setup your network
[01:39] <kitten_mittens> im confused -_-
[01:39] <histo> kitten_mittens: kitten_mittens use the up and down arrows and hilight network then press enter
[01:40] <kitten_mittens> i did it and it sayd clean, 205505/14581760 files, 3429860/58320640 blocks
[01:40] <kitten_mittens> and it just stoppderscoreed, i have a flashing un
[01:40] <histo> kitten_mittens: What when you clicked networking?
[01:40] <kitten_mittens> yeah
[01:40] <GoGetOperated> Hey
[01:41] <kitten_mittens> i just have a flashing underscore
[01:41] <GoGetOperated> ./Go~Get\.
[01:41] <histo> kitten_mittens: Do you still have a cd lying around that you can boot to?  It would be a lot easier than walking you through configuring a network in command line if you just booted that and we repaired from there.
[01:41] <kitten_mittens> ok, i dont have cd i have usb for my pc
[01:42] <histo> kitten_mittens: or usb. I can't remember what you staid you installed from?
[01:42] <kitten_mittens> because it has no cdrom
[01:42] <histo> kitten_mittens: yeah boot to the usb drive you installed from.
[01:42] <Brewski> I'm looking for a QR barcode scanner solution for Ubuntu. We're looking to scan QR codes into a web form instead of manually typing them, so a "keyboard wedge" would be preferred (like credit card readers).
[01:42] <GoGetOperated> What ar you trying to do
[01:42] <Brewski> I know the software is there, is there hardware compatibility for any USB scanners yet?
[01:42] <kitten_mittens> done histo
[01:43] <GoGetOperated> There is a thing called Google look for ith there
[01:43] <histo> kitten_mittens: I have to go but basically you are going to try. Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[01:43] <kitten_mittens> ok..
[01:43] <histo> Brewski: Barcode scanners are just detected as keyboards most should work with linux.
[01:44] <NewUbun> hello
[01:44] <Brewski> Sweet! I'll have to buy one and test
[01:44] <Brewski> thx
[01:44] <NewUbun> need some help
[01:44] <kitten_mittens> error, invalid enviroment blook, press any key to continue?
[01:44] <histo> Brewski: like you can scan barcodes into a text document
[01:44] <histo> kitten_mittens: what where?
[01:45] <kitten_mittens> OMFG THIS IS STUPID
[01:45] <histo> kitten_mittens: I really recomend doing a memtest.  Or I suspect your original iso you downloaded was corrupt.
[01:45] <NewUbun> yesterday i installed openproject from sourceforge but it is not workin.. I tried again today and got this msg
[01:45] <histo> kitten_mittens: but I have to go.
[01:45] <kitten_mittens> MY bios goes so fasgt its literally impossible to load the boot menu thing, or open the bios
[01:45] <kitten_mittens> ok thank you
[01:45] <histo> kitten_mittens: perhaps someone else can help.
[01:46] <histo> kitten_mittens: hit the shift key and get the grub menu again and run a memtest
[01:49] <NewUbun> "your java vendor is "oracle corporation". to run OpenProj, you nee dthe sun java iplementation. The auto-detect java runtime used is "java". If you hae a newer version, you can anually cane it by editing the "Java_exe" property in te auto-detection file, "$HOME/.openproj/run.conf" Otherwise, to force auto-detection again you can remove "$Home/.openproj/run.conf"
[01:49] <NewUbun> can someone help
[01:49] <NewUbun> I am new to ubuntu
[01:50] <NewUbun> anyone
[01:50] <NewUbun> ..............
[01:50] <konam> Audacious is incredibly slow to start (a full 20 seconds) after I try to play songs with it be it from the "open with" menu from nautilus or simply starting it through the dash. I don't know why this is, does somebody else experience this? My machine is decent (dell inspiron 14z N411z), and my ubuntu version 12.10
[01:51] <cainus> can anyone tell me the magic behind ln -s and why it never wants to work for me?  isn't it just `ln -s /real/path /pretend/path`  ?
[01:51] <NewUbun> anyone...
[01:52] <NewUbun> I a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java
[01:52] <solrac> how do you open firefox in terminal mode
[01:52] <jrib> cainus: sure.
[01:52] <matt> hello my name is matt
[01:52] <NewUbun> can someone help
[01:53] <Guest33132> i need some help
[01:53] <kitten_mittens> can someone help me
[01:53] <solrac> help how do you open firefox in terminal mode
[01:53] <jrib> cainus: so do you have a specific example you are having trouble with?
[01:54] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <kitten_mittens> but how do i find out what my hard drive is
[01:54] <NewUbun> write firefox and press enter
[01:54] <cainus> jrib: yeah, but it'll just be some different paths from what I pasted
[01:54] <kitten_mittens> anyone?
[01:55] <NewUbun> is there anyone here that can help
[01:55] <cainus> jrib: sudo ln -s build-couchdb/build/etc/logrotate.d/couchdb /etc/logrotate.d/couchdb
[01:55] <cainus> NewUbun: just ask your question
[01:55] <jrib> cainus: you're giving a relative path, make sure that that makes sense relative to the target
[01:55] <Guest33132> im trying to burn an image iso of the newest ubuntu from a windows pc to use as a bootable new installation on my hp laptop that is having issues with windows. i installed a version of ubuntu i had from 2011 on the laptop and it worked except it is out of date and cannot be upgraded. so like i said i downloaded and am trying to burn the iso using nero 9 on a windows pc to then use to boot and install the 12 ubuntu on my laptop any
[01:56] <cainus> jrib: it only makes sense relative to my cwd... should I just give absolute paths?
[01:56] <jrib> cainus: you can use absolute paths if you want, yes
[01:57] <kitten_mittens> i feel as if im asking a pretty simple question
[01:57] <cainus> jrib: ahhh okay... so what does it do with the path?  writes it into the symbolic link?
[01:57] <cainus> jrib: so my relative paths wouldn't wortk
[01:57] <Guest33132> any help?
[01:58] <jrib> cainus: you can use relative paths, but they have to be relative to /etc/logrotate.d/couchdb, not your cwd
[01:58] <solrac> how do you open firefox in terminal mode
[01:58] <solrac> help
[01:58] <NewUbun> write firefox and press enter
[01:58] <solrac> no display
[01:58] <cainus> jrib: ha alright... thanks :)  I've been wondering for years wth I've been doing wrong :)
[01:58] <OerHeks> Guest33132, newest ubuntu 12.10 needs a DVD+r
[01:59] <cainus> solrac: firefox doesn't run in terminal mode
[01:59] <Guest33132> so just burn the iso image to a dvdr?
[01:59] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:59] <kitten_mittens> but how do i find out what my hard drive is
[01:59] <OerHeks> Guest33132, yes, or use a usb stick if your pc can boot from it.
[01:59] <NewUbun> help plz
[02:00] <Guest33132> i just dont have a stick handy but thanks ill try that and get back thanks.
[02:00] <Justin_jtb7rmv> hi buddy get you to ssh in and set my unrealircd server up?
[02:00] <NewUbun> I a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java
[02:00] <kitten_mittens> omg i wanna hit someone..
[02:00] <Justin_jtb7rmv> hi all get you to ssh in and set my unrealircd server up?
[02:01] <NewUbun> help plz
[02:01] <NewUbun> I a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java versions
[02:01] <kitten_mittens> nobody helps newubun
[02:01] <NewUbun> nope
[02:01] <ItsMe__> :D
[02:01] <ItsMe__> what kind of help ?
[02:01] <ItsMe__> just ask :p
[02:01] <kitten_mittens> i have like 300 times :)
[02:01] <NewUbun> linux mint wa much better in this regard
[02:01] <OerHeks> kitten_mittens, fdisk -l should tell your drives
[02:01] <ItsMe__> and no one helps me too :p
[02:02] <NewUbun> "your java vendor is "oracle corporation". to run OpenProj, you nee dthe sun java iplementation. The auto-detect java runtime used is "java". If you hae a newer version, you can anually cane it by editing the "Java_exe" property in te auto-detection file, "$HOME/.openproj/run.conf" Otherwise, to force auto-detection again you can remove "$Home/.openproj/run.conf"
[02:02] <NewUbun> i installed open proj an it wont run
[02:02] <OerHeks> openproject and closed oracle java .. i guess you need openJDK
[02:03] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:03] <kitten_mittens> but when i do choot /dev/sda it says not a directory
[02:04] <gmachine_24> Hello again. I am booted from a live 12.04 LTS USB flash drive and I need to overwrite the hard on this laptop; I am doing to use "dd" and I know the CLI command to overwrite the drive with zeros or randomly . . . but I want to know how to overwrite the drive multiple times. Thanks.
[02:04] <solrac> so you can open a browser onli in graphic mode?
[02:04] <gmachine_24> *hard drive
[02:04] <gmachine_24> and 'going to use'
[02:05] <kitten_mittens> whys it so impossible to get help
[02:05] <NewUbun> anyone
[02:06] <kitten_mittens> i guess nobodys helping today
[02:06] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  how have u tried to install ? Did u tried this http://bit.ly/9VxNou ?
[02:06] <NewUbun> i really want to start typing in CAP
[02:06] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, I don't know. what happens when you do $sudo fdisk -l?
[02:06] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, forgive me if you have answered this already. I just got here.
[02:06] <kitten_mittens> it lists my /dev/sda drive
[02:07] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, well, ............. can you post the result in pastebin? It lists details........ and those are important
[02:07] <NewUbun> ItsMe: i downloaded it, changed it to .deb and installed it
[02:07] <NewUbun> but looks like it has a problem with my Java
[02:07] <kitten_mittens> the problem is when i turn on my pc, it freezes, so we tryed a differnt kennal thing in grub and it just locks up at loading initial ramdisk
[02:08] <NewUbun> how do i fix tat
[02:08] <ItsMe__> did u changet what to .deb ?
[02:08] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:08] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, did you try a command prompt and then do a filecheck?
[02:08] <kitten_mittens> i dont know how to do that
[02:09] <NewUbun> I changed the folder from rpm to deb
[02:09] <NewUbun> the zip folder i had downloaded was in rpm
[02:09] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, well............ if you get to the Grub splash screen . . . you can choose (usually) to go to a command line... there should be that option for every kernel version you have on your drive
[02:10] <kitten_mittens> yeah we tryed that
[02:10] <kitten_mittens> well we tryed a differnt kernal thing
[02:10] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, if not, if you have a live USB boot drive - or even a cd - you can boot into the live version and then to a file check from a terminal
[02:11] <kitten_mittens> thts what im doing now
[02:11] <NewUbun> its_me... you here?
[02:11] <NewUbun> anyone????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[02:11] <ItsMe__> I'm searching NewUbun
[02:11] <gmachine_24> *do a file check from a terminal as in $cntrl+atl+t and then $sudo e2fsck -ef /dev/sda or whatever
[02:11] <NewUbun> ok
[02:12] <gmachine_24> NewUbun - how did you change the folder?
[02:12] <gmachine_24> patience! | NewUbun
[02:12] <gmachine_24> er
[02:12] <gmachine_24> !patience | NewUbun
[02:12] <NewUbun> let me check the command i used
[02:12] <somsip> !patience | NewUbun
[02:12] <kittenmittenz> gmachine_24 http://pastebin.com/NWveRCAm
[02:12] <NewUbun> i am new to all this
[02:12] <gmachine_24> somsip, thank you :)
[02:14] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, did you just change your user name?
[02:14] <loren> I am looking for help with Archive Manager.  What channel is most likely to help?
[02:15] <kittenmittenz> no this is my pc on the live usb, the other is on my laptop, the  key on my pc keyboar oesnt work so i have to use a macro on my game pa which is annoying so i was using the laptop
[02:15] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, well, the instructions you received before don't make sense to me. Your /dev/sda drive is not formatted or partitioned so you can't mount it anywhere.
[02:15] <kittenmittenz> nooo\
[02:15] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, no what
[02:15] <gmachine_24> or nooo\ what?
[02:16] <ItsMe__> NewUbun, go to your home folder than open .openproj/run.conf
[02:16] <kitten_mittens> my sda drive is my sda drive..a s in.. its where i was running ubuntu just fine yesterday until i updated and restarted then couldnt turn back on
[02:16] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, well it looks like it's shot.
[02:16] <kitten_mittens> :(
[02:16] <kitten_mittens> how do i check my hard drive for errors
[02:16] <ItsMe__> then change the line that is 'JAVA_OPTS="-Xms128m -Xmx768m" ' to 'JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.vendor=Sun -Xms128m -Xmx768m" '
[02:16] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, the bare drive?
[02:17] <kittenmittenz> yeah, its an ss
[02:17] <kitten_mittens> its an ssd
[02:17] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, $sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda
[02:17] <ItsMe__> it runs on my ubuntu now NewUbun  :)
[02:17] <gmachine_24> you need to do the -c 2x
[02:17] <gmachine_24> it is a quick check
[02:18] <gmachine_24> although..................
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> it keeps saying that it is in use
[02:18] <gmachine_24> yeah. can you umount it?
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> /dev/sda is in use.
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> i presse the little eject button?
[02:18] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, as in $sudo umount /dev/sda
[02:19] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  hey have u did it ?
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> umount: /dev/sda: not mounted
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> /dev/sda is in use.
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[02:19] <FloodBot1> kittenmittenz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, I think you probably have to use dd.
[02:20] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, I think you probably have to use "dd", the command, that is.
[02:20] <kitten_mittens> whats the dd?
[02:20] <NewUbun> nope
[02:20] <ItsMe__> nope what :D
[02:20] <gmachine_24> hang on. let me check this. are you ready to accept you might not get your data back off that drive?
[02:20] <kittenmittenz> that is okay, i only got it working yesteray
[02:20] <NewUbun> i could not find the answer and dono how to fix the problemm
[02:21] <Guest33132> burnt the iso to dvd and it still wants to just boot to my old ubuntu release that is out of date....need help...
[02:21] <ItsMe__> NewUbun, just try it man, it works. resource : http://bit.ly/T7KjW4
[02:22] <ItsMe__> could u open the /home/.openproj/run.conf  file ?
[02:22] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, then why not just reinstall Ubuntu?
[02:22] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, it seems much easier
[02:23] <ItsMe__> when you're your home folder press "ctrl+h" to see the hidden folders , NewUbun
[02:23] <kittenmittenz> because ive been trying to get it working for the past week an it wornt i keep getting errors, the image is fine i check the m5 an ive ownloae it like 10 times now
[02:23] <subb1> Hi guys.
[02:23] <ItsMe__> then open the .openproj folder and run.conf file and change the line, NewUbun  m'kay ? :)
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> like graphics rivers errors, rea onl6 file system errors, now this error
[02:24] <gmachine_24> the gpt listed in your fdisk output is, I guess, a shortcut or abbreviation for GUID - which is partition information of some sort I'm not up on
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> noboy can help me :/
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> i wante ubuntu, i also tye linux mint, it int work either
[02:24] <subb1> I'm trying to remove CUPS from Lucid. But ubuntu-desktop is also among the list of packages that will be removed. How to prevent that being removed and remove cups only?
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> i guess ill go back to winows, thanks anyway
[02:25] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, hang on. if you're willing to wipe the drive ........ you can try the dd command. hang tight.
[02:26] <ItsMe__> windows is bad man, you can't learn anything with that :D just follow the instructions of gmachine_24  :)
[02:26] <Guest33132> any help?
[02:26] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  ????
[02:26] <ItsMe__> any help about what Guest33132 ?
[02:27] <bravis> l
[02:28] <pertinate_> I need some help, if you guys don't mind. :o
[02:28] <ItsMe__> ok
[02:28] <ItsMe__> :)
[02:28] <Guest33132> i just burnt the newest iso of ubuntu to a dvd to install it into my lapotop and it still wants to load up with my old ubuntu the i had a dvd for that is unsupported now. and the boot option is set to boot from dvd.
[02:28] <pertinate_> I'm in need of enabling my two extra buttons on my mouse: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/d/comfort-mouse-4500 this is the mouse I'm using.
[02:29] <Hamled> so I'm trying to configure a machine with two ethernet interfaces, both with static IPs. When I do an ifup -a it brings up both interfaces and sets a route for default using one interface, but I want it to use the other instead. I've added such a statement to the correct interface in /etc/network/interfaces but it's still just using the other  interface
[02:30] <Hamled> how can I figure out what is causing it to setup a route for default on one of the interfaces automatically?
[02:30] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ok, try this
[02:31] <Guest33132> ?
[02:31] <kittenmittenz> ok
[02:31] <ItsMe__> Guest33132,  did u checked md5 ? And are u sure you wrote the iso correctly ? I think u can't see boot menu from dvd ?
[02:31] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ok, try  $sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda
[02:32] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ok, try  if you cannot do that, you might have to install the program e2fsprogs as in $sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs
[02:32] <Guest33132> im saying i changed the boot menu in the pc to boot from dvd first. would md5 been when burning or?
[02:33] <kittenmittenz> Checking blocks 0 to 250059095
[02:33] <kittenmittenz> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test):
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[02:33] <kittenmittenz> its not oing anything though..
[02:33] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, yes, that is the one
[02:34] <gmachine_24> do you just have a blinking curser?
[02:34] <ItsMe__> Guest33132,  u must use md5checksum programs to check iso file , search on google "ubuntu md5 check".
[02:34] <gmachine_24> cursor
[02:34] <akar1m> hello guys
[02:34] <kittenmittenz> ya
[02:34] <akar1m> I want tou extend my screen
[02:34] <NewUbun> ItsMe__u ehre
[02:34] <akar1m> I am using ATI VGA card
[02:34] <ItsMe__> If it's correct, u should have burned iso file wrongly i guess.
[02:34] <akar1m> how can I do that ?
[02:35] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  yeah but i must go :)
[02:35] <ItsMe__> did u try it ?
[02:35] <akar1m> in windows ctrl+p and click extend option
[02:35] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, at the end of the terminal line $ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ or on a blank line?
[02:35] <NewUbun> sorry guys I was trying to copy the nae
[02:35] <NewUbun> name
[02:35] <kittenmittenz> blank?
[02:35] <akar1m> I am using my laptop's screen as a second display
[02:35] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, if it says it's checking then it's checking
[02:35] <kittenmittenz> after rea onlytest: it just has a squar box
[02:35] <akar1m> I got HDMI output
[02:36] <NewUbun> yes but how do i  get to the file... I tried in terminal but could not find the .openproj file
[02:36] <evansch0> i need some help o.o
[02:36] <ItsMe__> don't use terminal, go to your home folder and press "ctrl+h"  then search ".openproj" folder and open the "run.conf" file, NewUbun
[02:37] <evansch0> i need to find out how to connect a device like a usb as a drive like c:\ or D:\
[02:37] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, it is checking. also, when you boot from a live install on a usb drive or cd/dvd there is a choice to do a hard drive check
[02:38] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, that is one of your options.
[02:38] <NewUbun> i used the cd / then cd home and then cd newubun but after that when i tried ls i did not get any file by the name .openproj
[02:38] <kittenmittenz> ill o that next
[02:39] <NewUbun> ok
[02:39] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, and............ if you don't like any of those......... you can do $sudo touch /forcefsck which will force the computer to do a hard drive check on your next reboot
[02:39] <evansch0> so does anyone know how to connect a usb as a main drive
[02:39] <gmachine_24> evansch0, as in you want to boot from it or what
[02:39] <NewUbun> found it
[02:39] <NewUbun> 1 sec
[02:39] <ItsMe__> ok
[02:40] <evansch0> no i want it to be used instead of my hard drive
[02:40] <usr13> evansch0: You mean to set a static mount point?
[02:40] <evansch0> no idea
[02:40] <evansch0> :/
[02:40] <gmachine_24> evansch0, is your os going to be on this drive?
[02:40] <usr13> evansch0: You want to move your /home/directory to it?
[02:40] <evansch0> yes
[02:40] <evansch0> i think
[02:40] <gmachine_24> lol
[02:40] <gmachine_24> yes, to which question
[02:41] <gmachine_24> or both
[02:41] <NewUbun> should i cane it to ""-Djava.vendor = Sun-Xms128m-Xmx768m"
[02:41] <NewUbun> or just Sun-Xms....
[02:41] <evansch0> ok first let me tell you some background on my laptop
[02:41] <evansch0> its an hp 4410t
[02:41] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, depending on your cpu speed and etc. that disk check will take awhile
[02:41] <ItsMe__> -Djava.vendor = Sun-Xms128m-Xmx768m" , it must be this
[02:42] <evansch0> 2 gb on the hard drive xD
[02:42] <usr13> evansch0: For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[02:42] <kittenmittenz> i have an 8core 3.5 ghz?
[02:42] <NewUbun> ok
[02:42] <evansch0> i have 2 ghz
[02:43] <evansch0> the whole hard drive space is basically just the graphical ram
[02:43] <usr13> evansch0: Do you have a portion of your /home/directory that is very large?  Like /home/evansch0/videos  or /home/evansch0/music ?
[02:43] <ugtarmas> apt-get install yum
[02:44] <ItsMe__> ugtarmas,  lol :D
[02:44] <evansch0> and i want to use my sata drive and my usb drive
[02:44] <evansch0> together\
[02:44] <usr13> evansch0: It would be easier to just create a mount point for a particular subdirectory.
[02:44] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  any result
[02:44] <ItsMe__> ?
[02:44] <evansch0> and i do that how
[02:44] <kittenmittenz> i wish it ha a progress bar
[02:45] <usr13> evansch0: Well, you can, (use the sata and usb drive together), I'm just trying to determine the best way.
[02:45] <Dmnchild> Hey all, can someone help me understand setquota? I am trying to set a users diskspace to 100gb. see the usage help, but still not working for me.
[02:45] <NewUbun> noting i did not get the msg again but the program did not start either
[02:45] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, well........ if you want to see if it's running do $cntrl+alt+t to open a terminal, type $top at the command line and the process should be listed at the top, using most of the cpu
[02:46] <usr13> evansch0: You have to create a mount point for it and then, (if you're going use your /home/dir for it), move /home/evansch0 to it.
[02:46] <evansch0> mount point?
[02:46] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, not most of the cpu, but it will be the process using the most
[02:46] <gmachine_24> cpu cycles
[02:46] <NewUbun> is there a way to uninstall open proj and reinstall it
[02:46] <usr13> evansch0: yes mount point.
[02:46] <NewUbun> to see if tere is a problem there
[02:46] <evansch0> what is a mount point
[02:47] <ItsMe__> new ubun i guess u didn't change correctlye.  JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.vendor=Sun -Xms128m -Xmx768m"
[02:47] <ItsMe__> it must be like this
[02:47] <usr13> evansch0: a mount point is just a directory where files are stored.  /home/evansch0  if it is on another drive is called a "mount point".
[02:47] <evansch0> well i dont have ubuntu installed yet
[02:47] <ItsMe__> can u copy the line that u changed ?
[02:47] <NewUbun> ok let mme try again.. i will copy paste what you typed here
[02:47] <evansch0> that is why i need to use then together
[02:47] <evansch0> *them
[02:48] <usr13> evansch0: But this new location must have an entry for it in the /etc/fstab file. We can show you how.
[02:48] <evansch0> where can you show me
[02:49] <usr13> evansch0: Oh, you havent' done the install yet.  Well, just have the drive plugged in when you do the installed, and designate it as the mount point for /home
[02:49] <NewUbun> thanks it worked this time
[02:49] <NewUbun> thatnks alot
[02:49] <ItsMe__> you're welcome :) I must go, have a nice day :)
[02:49] <usr13> *install*  not installed
[02:49] <evansch0> then i guess i should change the boot device
[02:49] <NewUbun> Thank you Its_Me__
[02:50] <usr13> evansch0: Change the boot device?
[02:50] <NewUbun> you too
[02:50] <usr13> evansch0: No, we're not talking about the boot device here.
[02:50] <evansch0> yes the boot device right now boot device is usb then optical drive then so on
[02:50] <aLeSD> hi all
[02:51] <aLeSD> which is the best fs to format a 1TB external disk ?
[02:51] <usr13> evansch0: So you are NOW saying that you want to do the entire Ubuntu install on the USB device?
[02:51] <evansch0> i should change it from usb to optical drive xD
[02:51] <evansch0> no both devices if possible
[02:51] <usr13> evansch0: (That's ok, we just need to know what it is you really want to do.)
[02:51] <usr13> evansch0: You dan do it on both devices, yes.
[02:51] <evansch0> brb
[02:52] <evansch0> <------ AFK
[02:52] <usr13> evansch0: The larger partition should be /home
[02:52] <kdns_> aLeSD: For what purpose? Probably ext3 or ext4
[02:53] <loren> Need help with file roller
[02:53] <usr13> evansch0: Recommended sizes:  8G swap, 30G /  and the rest, (or what ever you want to use of the USB drive), for /home
[02:54] <aLeSD> kdns_ storage ... and sometime share wit no linux boxes
[02:54] <losticeberg> My network card is not working at all. in ubutu 12.04
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: What network card is it?
[02:55] <gmachine_24> loren, as in what specifically?
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: lspci |pastebinit
[02:55] <bencc> how much memory does a minimum install of ubuntu server needs?
[02:55] <losticeberg> it in a dell inspion 6000
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: and send us resulting URL
[02:55] <losticeberg> ive tryed two diffrent ones
[02:55] <evansch0> im thinking of getting a external hard drive  320 to 500 gigs
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: What does ifconfig say?
[02:55] <loren> Trying to connect File Roller 3.4.1 for Gnome to a Windows share.
[02:55] <evansch0> how would i use that device
[02:56] <gmachine_24> losticeberg, can you do a $sudo lspci as usr13 says?
[02:56] <usr13> !paste |losticeberg
[02:56] <Ray> hello, anyone know how to use *.run.gz file??
[02:57] <usr13> losticeberg: Does  ifconfig   show a section for eth0  or  eth1 ?
[02:57] <arp-> hello
[02:58] <usr13> Ray: .gz indicates a compressed file.  see man gunzip
[02:58] <losticeberg> no it dos not even show i have wireless with 12.10
[02:58] <Dmnchild> Anyone able to help me with the setquota command for limiting a specific users /home/?
[02:58] <kittenmittenz> taking forevvver
[02:58] <usr13> losticeberg: So, one card is wireless and one is ethernet?
[02:58] <arp-> How is the binary name of ATI Catalyst control panel?
[02:58] <loren> Yes
[02:58] <Ben64> Ray: what is it, by the way
[02:58] <losticeberg> on 12.04 its a firmware not setup
[02:59] <usr13> losticeberg: what is firmware?
[02:59] <losticeberg> on 12.04 thats what it ses about my wireless card
[02:59] <usr13> losticeberg: Open a terminal window, type   lspci   hit Enter and see what it says about the wireless card.  Show us that line here.
[03:00] <evansch0> so usr if i use a external hard drive would i be able to boot from that
[03:00] <losticeberg> yes one ethernet
[03:00] <Chriys> i'm going to reinstall postfix what config do i need to send email throught my isp smtp server
[03:00] <evansch0> usr13: if i use a external hard drive would i be able to boot from that
[03:00] <usr13> losticeberg: Is the ethernet card working?
[03:00] <usr13> evansch0: Yes, if your computer will boot to it.
[03:00] <losticeberg> not sure no way to hook up to test
[03:01] <evansch0> usr13: i think it will since it booted from a usb one before
[03:01] <usr13> evansch0: If your computer is capable of booting to USB, then yes, you can do the complete Ubuntu install on it.
[03:01] <usr13> evansch0: How big is it?
[03:01] <gmachine_24> losticeberg, for example, $sudo lspci has this as my bottom line "03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)"
[03:01] <loren> loren@loren-laptop:~$ sudo lspci
[03:01] <loren> [sudo] password for loren:
[03:01] <loren> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[03:01] <loren> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
[03:01] <loren> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[03:01] <FloodBot1> loren: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <loren> 00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
[03:01] <gmachine_24>  
[03:01] <evansch0> usr13: how big is what?
[03:01] <usr13> !paste | loren
[03:02] <usr13> loren: lspci | pastebinit   #And post resulting URL here.
[03:02] <gmachine_24> loren, do you know how to use the terminal and the command line?
[03:03] <usr13> losticeberg:  Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:03] <arp-> I need the binary name of ATI Catalyst GUI , can help me?
[03:04] <evansch0> usr13: what were you reffering to when you said "how big is it?"
[03:04] <usr13> evansch0: Your USB drive.
[03:04] <evansch0> usr13: oh well its only 4 gb xD
[03:04] <dr_willis> arp-: it's   amdccc  or somthing like that
[03:05] <usr13> evansch0: That's pretty small.  A normal Ubuntu install will not fit on 4G
[03:05] <loren> I ran the command in terminal and then tried to paste the display in this message line, resulting in a FloodBot.
[03:05] <evansch0> usr13 well it was only the boot up usb
[03:05] <usr13> !minimal | evansch0
[03:05] <gmachine_24> loten, so use pastebin
[03:05] <gmachine_24> *loren
[03:05] <misterswag_> how to update to frodo with using the webupd8 ppa?
[03:06] <kittenmittenz> i have a question..
[03:06] <kittenmittenz> are we human?.. or are we dancer?
[03:06] <evansch0> i also am using a boot up dvd now 700 mb
[03:06] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ..............out with it
[03:06] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, we are devo
[03:06] <kittenmittenz> lol
[03:06] <usr13> kittenmittenz: Well, if it's about Ubuntu, you've come to the right place.  If not....well.
[03:07] <usr13> kittenmittenz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <kittenmittenz> sorry... i have the killers - human stuck in my head
[03:07] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, I am running $dd on my hard drive and it is using >60% of the CPU
[03:07] <usr13> evansch0: You do not have a USB drive that is bigger than 4G?
[03:07] <kittenmittenz> naw, gmachine_24 is helping me im just waiting for a stupi check thingie
[03:07] <usr13> evansch0: How big is your sata drive?
[03:08] <evansch0> usr13: what is the ubuntu live user username and password because i cant get back on
[03:08] <kittenmittenz> it says 2.6%
[03:08] <evansch0> usr13: its only 2 gb
[03:08] <filantropus> Hi there
[03:08] <evansch0> xD
[03:08] <filantropus> I have another Pc
[03:08] <usr13> evansch0: That is small!
[03:08] <filantropus> in that one
[03:08] <gmachine_24> evansch0, there is no username or password
[03:08] <kittenmittenz> an compiz is using 22- %
[03:08] <filantropus> i have this msg: "machine check exception"
[03:08] <evansch0> then why does it keep asking for one?
[03:08] <kittenmittenz> 210%
[03:08] <usr13> kittenmittenz: so...?
[03:09] <filantropus> after it, the pc goes down.
[03:09] <usr13> kittenmittenz: Do you have a question?
[03:09] <filantropus> can someone help me?
[03:09] <kittenmittenz> well.. thats more % than i have..
[03:09] <gmachine_24> evansch0, I do not know
[03:09] <evansch0> :/
[03:09] <evansch0> thats weird xD
[03:09] <OerHeks> filantropus, "machine check exception" sounds like a hardwarefailure
[03:09] <usr13> filantropus: Ask a question, if someone knows the answer they will say so.
[03:10] <ahmedipa> I have problem with network manager
[03:10] <ahmedipa> gnome
[03:10] <filantropus> and how can i know what kind of hardware fail is?
[03:10] <usr13> ahmedipa: What problem?
[03:10] <ahmedipa> I removed it by mistake
[03:10] <usr13> filantropus: "fail"?
[03:10] <usr13> ahmedipa: You can re-install it.
[03:10] <filantropus> yes.
[03:10] <gmachine_24> mce result when cpu determines there is a hardware error
[03:10] <usr13> ahmedipa:  Are you connected to the internet right now?
[03:11] <evansch0> usr13, gmachine_24, thank you for your help :D
[03:11] <filantropus> my pc says:
[03:11] <ahmedipa> usr13: how
[03:11] <OerHeks> filantropus, depends on what bios maker, short-long beeps can tell
[03:11] <filantropus> "machine check exception"
[03:11] <usr13> ahmedipa: If so,  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[03:11] <ahmedipa> usr13: yes by usb
[03:11] <usr13> ahmedipa: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[03:11] <gmachine_24> evansch0, anytime
[03:11] <evansch0> See yah everyone :D
[03:12] <kittenmittenz> whats that site where i can put text
[03:12] <evansch0> thanks usr13 :/
[03:12] <usr13> !paste | kittenmittenz
[03:12] <ahmedipa> usr13: but in ubuntu no internet I have
[03:12] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <usr13> ahmedipa: Why not?
[03:12] <ahmedipa> usr13: may be by package I can do it
[03:12] <loren> Need help sending terminal output.  I tried http:// pastebinit but did not see URL.
[03:12] <kittenmittenz> http://pastebin.com/e3WQ0Xz3
[03:13] <usr13> ahmedipa: Do you have a network cable plugged into your router?  Or are you using wireless?
[03:13] <kittenmittenz> is that ba gmachine?
[03:13] <gmachine_24> I've never seen anything use 211% of the cpu
[03:13] <kittenmittenz> lol
[03:13] <ahmedipa> usr13: I am using wireless by using my usb live
[03:13] <gmachine_24> that would seem impossible
[03:14] <gmachine_24> and the xorg cpu use is high
[03:14] <usr13> ahmedipa: iwconfig   #Tell us the name of the adapter.
[03:14] <OerHeks> 211%/400% 4-core
[03:14] <kittenmittenz> cpu isnt hot so.. i ont think its overclocking it
[03:14] <usr13> ahmedipa: Is it wlan0  ?   Or.... ____________?
[03:14] <gmachine_24> OerHeks, ahhhhhhhhh. thank you.
[03:14] <kittenmittenz> ohh.. i have an 8core
[03:14] <OerHeks>  1 zombie
[03:15] <ahmedipa> usr13: it is iwconfig
[03:15] <gmachine_24> Don't get personal.
[03:15] <ahmedipa> sorry
[03:15] <ahmedipa> wlan0
[03:15] <kittenmittenz> personal?
[03:15] <usr13> ahmedipa: Open a terminal, type   iwconfig  Hit Enter.  See what it says.  (Tell  us the name of the wireless device, something like wlan0 ).
[03:15] <gmachine_24> nevermind. a bad joke. :)
[03:15] <ahmedipa> yes it is wlan0
[03:16] <kittenmittenz> ammit, youtube stoppe working.. i hate live usb
[03:16] <ahmedipa> usr13: it is wlan0
[03:16] <usr13> ahmedipa: Ok,  do you know the essid of your wireless router?  If not, do   iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:16] <usr13> ahmedipa: What is the essid? ____________?
[03:17] <st0b> Hey guys. I'm a long time 10.04 user migrating to 12.04. I've had a lot of trouble on a fresh install of 12.04 with my wireless connection slowing to a halt. I've even used different NIC's with the same result
[03:17] <st0b> I've never had any issue similar in 10.04
[03:17] <ahmedipa> usr13: do you mean my network yes I know
[03:18] <usr13> ahmedipa: Yes, network name
[03:18] <ahmedipa> usr13: I found the name of ESSID:
[03:19] <usr13> ahmedipa: network name =  ESSID
[03:19] <ahmedipa> usr13: yeb
[03:19] <usr13> ahmedipa: Does your wireless router use encryption?
[03:19] <ahmedipa> yes
[03:19] <loren> First time on XChat.  How do I send output from terminal to this channel?
[03:19] <ahmedipa> usr13: yes
[03:19] <usr13> ahmedipa: What type? WEP?
[03:20] <ahmedipa> usr13: I don't remember
[03:20] <st0b> loren, post in pastebin and then the link here
[03:20] <usr13> ahmedipa: Ok, can't help you.  YOu will need to get an ethernet cable long enough to reach the router and just plug it in.
[03:21] <ahmedipa> aha
[03:21] <usr13> ahmedipa: Or, login to the router and temporarily turn off encryption.
[03:21] <ahmedipa> usr13: sounds good
[03:22] <usr13> ahmedipa: If you have another computer that has an active connection to the router, you should be able to login to it and turn off encryption.
[03:22] <bencc> can I use selinux in ubuntu?
[03:22] <usr13> ahmedipa: Let us know when you have that done.
[03:23] <usr13> bencc: Yes
[03:23] <billytwowilly> can somebody point me to a repository with php 5.4.11 in it for quantal? the one I was using for precise doesn't have quantal packages and google has been no help...
[03:23] <usr13> bencc: sudo apt-get install selinux
[03:23] <OerHeks> !selinux
[03:23] <ahmedipa> I will back because I have another prplm
[03:24] <usr13> OerHeks: Thanks.
[03:24] <OerHeks> disable appamor first, i think
[03:24] <bencc> OerHeks: so it's not a good idea to use it?
[03:24] <mehwork> how can i iterate through gnome-terminal tabs with my keyboard?
[03:25] <bencc> OerHeks: I mean, if it's a security feature and it's not officially supported
[03:25] <usr13> bencc: As OerHeks points out, you are better off to use AppArmor, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[03:25] <st0b> I've been seeking help for my wifi dying after extended use. Restarting the network service seems to remedy the situation temporarily. I experience this on a fresh 12.04 install with multiple wireless NICs
[03:25] <ahmedipa> usr13:I will restart within 10 minute I think I will finish before
[03:26] <usr13> ahmedipa: Do you now have encryption turned off?
[03:26] <OerHeks> bencc,  i have no experience with selinux/ubuntu, i think it is a design choice
[03:27] <malkauns> in 12.10 how do i get empathy to remember my yahoo contacts?
[03:27] <kittenmittenz> i have a 250gb Vertex 4 SSD, is there compatibility issues with it on ubuntu?
[03:27] <mehwork> it seems weird to make security features something that can be disabled
[03:27] <usr13> malkauns: Aren't they on your yahoo web based interface?
[03:28] <usr13> malkauns: Or are you using a PC based email client?  If so, which one?
[03:28] <malkauns> usr13, yea but when i rename a contact in empathy it should remember it
[03:28] <mehwork> it's like giving someone a hard hat but not making them wear it
[03:29] <usr13> malkauns: You have a set of contacts in empathy?
[03:29] <malkauns> usr13, i'm using empathy which is a standalone Multi-IM client for linux
[03:29] <malkauns> usr13, yes
[03:29] <malkauns> usr13, but when i restart empathy it doesn't remember what i renamed my yahoo contacts to
[03:29] <usr13> malkauns: I do not know if mpathy will automatically upload new contact information to Yahoo, but I do not think it does.
[03:31] <usr13> malkauns: I figure it's better to just use the web-based email server.
[03:31] <usr13> malkauns: ... that way, you are not restricted to only using your home PC for email.
[03:32] <malkauns> usr13, erm, not the ideal solution when i use facebook-chat, google-talk and aim
[03:32] <Evansch0> hi
[03:33] <usr13> malkauns: I always thought that was what tabs were for.  (in the browser).
[03:33] <malkauns> usr13, i am aware the pro's and cons or using a web based interface but the problem is Empathy should remember the aliases i set
[03:33] <usr13> malkauns: Maybe it does, I dono
[03:34] <s5fs> Hey, if I've got a service that it started by dbus, and I kill it with 'kill', how do I re-start it? Is there  like a dbus-service-start or whatever?
[03:34] <loren> Finally figured out how to use pastbin.  My URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587756/
[03:35] <usr13> malkauns: http://library.gnome.org/users/empathy/stable/
[03:36] <usr13> s5fs: What service is it?
[03:37] <Evansch0> :3
[03:37] <Evansch0> sup everyone
[03:37] <usr13> s5fs: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[03:38] <Guest84410> hey Evansch0
[03:39] <Evansch0> hi
[03:39] <Evansch0> ???
[03:39] <usr13> loren: So it is the wireless that is not working?
[03:40] <Evansch0> sooo......
[03:40] <iManassah> lol, just sayin hi
[03:40] <Evansch0> :P
[03:40] <iManassah> not much going on here
[03:40] <usr13> loren: lsmod |grep iwl   #Tell us what that says.
[03:40] <iManassah> been here for like an hour dicking around
[03:40] <DERP> lol
[03:40] <ahmedipa> hi
[03:41] <ahmedipa> I solve first problem
[03:41] <ahmedipa> but I have second problem
[03:41] <Evansch0> mwahaha
[03:41] <ahmedipa> Wireless disconnects with ubuntu  12.04LTS
[03:41] <ahmedipa> this problem starts today
[03:41] <iManassah> anyone play with yamas?
[03:41] <usr13> loren: If   lsmod |grep iwl  returns nothing, do this:   sudo modprobe iwl3945
[03:41] <ahmedipa> usr13: back
[03:41] <iManassah> mitm for ubuntu
[03:41] <Evansch0> so i have 12.04 lts and im trying to figure out the password and username if the account times out
[03:42] <ahmedipa> thank you for helping me about the first problem
[03:42] <usr13> ahmedipa: Do you now have encryption turned off?
[03:42] <ahmedipa> usr13: my main problem wireless
[03:42] <iManassah> Evans...when your machine first boots up, choose to boot with recovery mode, or something like that
[03:42] <loren> Places in the archive manager does not show the windows share file, so I cannot direct the output to my home server.  Nautilus has no trouble locating the file and allowing me to read and write.
[03:42] <Evansch0> how
[03:42] <ahmedipa> how can I check this
[03:42] <iManassah> Evans:  that will take you to a root prompt, then just passwd (user) to change password
[03:43] <Evansch0> i dont have ubuntu installed
[03:43] <usr13> ahmedipa: Did you log into the router and turn encryption off?
[03:43] <Evansch0> xD
[03:43] <ahmedipa> usr13: I used wired
[03:43] <iManassah> what do you have Evans
[03:43] <Evansch0> a boot up disk
[03:43] <usr13> ahmedipa:  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[03:43] <ahmedipa> usr13: wired instead of wireless
[03:43] <Evansch0> for ubuntu 12.04 lts
[03:44] <iManassah> a boot up disk?
[03:44] <Evansch0> dvd
[03:44] <usr13> ahmedipa: Open a terminal, type:   sudo apt-get install network-manager   Hit Enter.
[03:44] <ahmedipa> usr13: I did it
[03:44] <iManassah> Evans:   can't timeout unless its installed i believe...
[03:44] <usr13> ahmedipa: Good.
[03:44] <Evansch0> lol well it did xD
[03:44] <DigitalPhil> good evening... can anyone help with fancontrol on a gateway laptop? My fan runs at idle...pwmconfig detects no sensors...and the sensors command gives me an accurate (HOT!!!) temperature readout
[03:45] <usr13> ahmedipa: When you reboot, you should see the network-manager applet again.
[03:45] <iManassah> ggggggggggggg
[03:45] <iManassah> sorry cat just walked across my keyboard
[03:45] <Evansch0> lol
[03:45] <loren> neither command returned anything
[03:45] <ahmedipa> usr13: I saw that it tries to find network but after that it says disconnect
[03:45] <iManassah> hmmm whats it say when you login?
[03:45] <DigitalPhil> iManassah: meow.
[03:45] <Evansch0> no login xD
[03:46] <Evansch0> DigitalPhil: nice xD
[03:46] <usr13> !fan | DigitalPhil
[03:46] <antonio_> I'm trying to access a folder called Market Samurai in terminal...what syntax should I use?
[03:46] <ahmedipa> usr13: I can use internet by my mobile whereas I can't in my laptop
[03:46] <iManassah> lol...thanks ya'll
[03:47] <iManassah> just says "no login"
[03:47] <usr13> ahmedipa: Why not?
[03:47] <iManassah> ?
[03:47] <dr_willis> antonio_:  cd 'folder name'
[03:47] <usr13> ahmedipa: What is your native language?
[03:47] <vileman> Chinese
[03:47] <ahmedipa> usr13: I surprise
[03:47] <ahmedipa> usr13: arabic
[03:47] <antonio_> dr_willis: tried that
[03:47] <iManassah> Evansch0:  can you log in as root?
[03:47] <dr_willis> antonio_:  or cd   folder<tabkey> to auto complete the name
[03:48] <antonio_> ha
[03:48] <antonio_> ah
[03:48] <spetsnoz> is ext4 a full 64-bit file system? this part of the ext4 wiki seems to be saying otherwise https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Bigger_File_System_and_File_Sizes
[03:48] <Evansch0> no
[03:48] <antonio_> bash: cd: Market: No such file or directory
[03:48] <usr13> ahmedipa: FYI:   #ubuntu-arabic
[03:48] <iManassah> Evansch0:  does it even give you a login screen?
[03:48] <antonio_> dr_willis: don't I need to put a / in between the two words?
[03:48] <dr_willis> antonio_:  you have several folders called market whatever ?
[03:49] <antonio_> nope
[03:49] <antonio_> should it be cd Market\ Samurai ?
[03:49] <dr_willis> antonio_:  tab completion shoudl add it automatically...
[03:49] <antonio_> didn't
[03:49] <dr_willis> antonio_:  try it and see...
[03:49] <antonio_> haha
[03:49] <antonio_> I'm an idiot
[03:49] <dr_willis> cd "dir with spaces" whould work also
[03:49] <dr_willis> stop using spaces in file and dir names = best answer
[03:50] <antonio_> forgot I was already in the folder...
[03:50] <ahmedipa> usr13: may I show you screen shot ?
[03:50] <usr13> ahmedipa: Sure, pastebinit
[03:51] <usr13> !paste | ahmedipa
[03:51] <ahmedipa> I see what you mean
[03:52] <usr13> antonio_: pwd is your friend
[03:53] <DigitalPhil> usr13:  that url from the bot returned a blank page.
[03:53] <ahmedipa> usr13: http://imagebin.org/244765
[03:53] <usr13> dr_willis: Good advice.  It is a bad idea to make file names or directory names that have spaces.  Very confusing.
[03:53] <ahmedipa> usr13: this is the screen shot
[03:53] <usr13> DigitalPhil: What URL?
[03:54] <DigitalPhil> [22:46:22] <usr13> !fan | DigitalPhil
[03:54] <usr13> ahmedipa: There you go.  It's working.
[03:54] <ahmedipa> usr13: this application try to find network but it tell me disconnected
[03:54] <ahmedipa> I used wired not wireless
[03:54] <usr13> ahmedipa: Click up there where the up and down arrows are.
[03:55] <DigitalPhil> usr13: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html is the url the bot spit out, that url returns blank in three browsers.
[03:56] <ahmedipa> usr13:although I select my network and I type password, it search for network but it tell me disconnected
[03:56] <ahmedipa> usr13: may be because I updated a lot
[03:58] <antonio_> usr13: huh what is pwd
[03:58] <antonio_> ?
[03:58] <zygoptera> antonio_ | pwd is a command that tells you what directory you are in
[03:58] <antonio_> ah
[03:59] <usr13> ahmedipa: Are you sure the passphrase is correct?
[03:59] <ahmedipa>  yes, if incorrect it will tell me
[04:00] <usr13> ahmedipa: If you can login to the router from another PC, you can either see what the password is, or change it.
[04:00] <antonio_> argh
[04:00] <loren> loren@loren-laptop:~$ sudo lsmod | grep iwl
[04:00] <loren> iwl3945                73145  0
[04:00] <loren> iwl_legacy             71187  1 iwl3945
[04:00] <loren> mac80211              436493  2 iwl3945,iwl_legacy
[04:00] <loren> cfg80211              178877  3 iwl3945,iwl_legacy,mac80211
[04:00] <FloodBot1> loren: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <usr13> !paste | loren
[04:01] <usr13> loren: iwconfig | pastebinit
[04:01] <ahmedipa> I am checking
[04:01] <usr13> loren: Open a terminal and type   iwconfig | pastebinit  Hit Enter and send resulting URL [here]
[04:03] <antonio_> I'm getting so damn frustrated
[04:03] <antonio_> I'm trying to install Market Samurai - its an adobe air application...
[04:03] <loren> pastebinit command not found
[04:03] <antonio_> I tried updating it from root a few minutes ago and the entire program was deleted!
[04:04] <ahmedipa> I changed one mistake
[04:04] <ahmedipa> I will reboot and I will see what will happened I think same problem
[04:04] <ahmedipa> happen
[04:05] <usr13> loren: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:05] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, I am running an ubuntu server minus desktop on low memory. Just wondering if anyone has a good resource on what can be safely trimmed from the system to get a very small footprint
[04:05] <TheLordOfTime> d1rkp1tt, how low are we talking for memory?
[04:05] <usr13> loren: http://imagebin.org/244767
[04:05] <antonio_> when I try to install marketsamurai.air an xterm window opens up...and its not accepting my root password...dr_willis: any ideas?
[04:06] <loren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587871/
[04:06] <zygoptera> ubuntu doesn't by default have a root password
[04:06] <slipp3d> so here is a wondering ... I have xubuntu installed and working fine .. .but any time I load up a site that has flash on it the computer locks up and the computer is completely unresponsive ... I have to hold the power button down to get it to let go ... any thoughts on that .....
[04:06] <usr13> antonio_: Use user password
[04:06] <antonio_> "this application requires administrative rights to run"
[04:07] <antonio_> usr13: its not working
[04:07] <slipp3d> I have tried different browsers ... but it does not matter ...
[04:07] <usr13> antonio_: what application is it?
[04:07] <zygoptera> slipp3d | flash itself is pretty buggy
[04:07] <antonio_> market samurai...
[04:07] <antonio_> its an adobe air application
[04:08] <blunted> Fdisk and parted cannot seem to find sda. However it is there and has 1&2 mounted, no raid no lvm
[04:08] <slipp3d> zygoptera, I realize that ... but that does not explain why it was working and now it does not
[04:08] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Ubuntu Server is already pretty thin. It doesn't come with a whole lot of extra stuff by default. But if you want, you can add anything from the repos...
[04:09] <antonio_> usr13: see this picture  the black window at the top is asking for my password
[04:09] <poz> hi
[04:09] <antonio_> http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/con_movies/Screenshotfrom2013-01-29180713_zpse83f7774.png
[04:09] <antonio_> the problem is that its not accepting my password
[04:09] <d1rkp1tt> rob_b ... thanks. It was pretty good out of the box, until i did an apt-get upgrade
[04:09] <zygoptera> slipp3d | did you update your flash?
[04:10] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p the upgrade increased the footprint a bit
[04:10] <blunted> Where do disk and parted look for disk info?
[04:10] <slipp3d> zygoptera, installed from the software center
[04:10] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Shouldn't have though... upgrades simply replace older versions...
[04:10] <slipp3d> so i would guess that is the most current
[04:10] <antonio_> got it..I had to run sudo /usr/bin/Adobe\ AIR\ Application\ Installer
[04:10] <dr_willis> antonio_: run it as root.. better idea  dont use air at all...
[04:11] <zygoptera> slipp3d | was it  previous version that was working right?
[04:11] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: That's not to say that the newer versions aren't sometimes a little bigger... but not usually significantly.
[04:11] <antonio_> dr_willis: I have to run air for this program..no way around it
[04:11] <dr_willis> id find a differnt program then
[04:11] <slipp3d> 12.04 was working ... 12.10 is broken
[04:11] <antonio_> dr_willis: its the industry standard
[04:11] <dr_willis> air is basically dead on linuxx
[04:11] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p thanks
[04:11] <linux34892> I have no sound in Ubuntu 12.10 and alsamixer says cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, i tried installing alsa and pulseaudio from the repos... still no sound, soundcard is NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[04:11] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: The difference in *most* cases should be negligable...
[04:11] <zygoptera> slipp3d | that's true
[04:11] <antonio_> Thats what drives me nuts about linux... "find a different program"
[04:12] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Is your system dipping into swap?
[04:12] <dr_willis> antonio_:  adobe ahs killed air on linux.  it may fail to work at any time. no security updates and so forth
[04:12] <usr13> antonio_: I don't know about samurai  How did you install it?
[04:12] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: If not, then there's no need to worry...
[04:12] <usr13> antonio_: Is this it? > http://www.madirish.net/188 <
[04:12] <dr_willis> adobe is great at screwing things up..
[04:13] <antonio_> nope usr13: www.marketsamurai.com
[04:13] <slipp3d> so i guess i'm stuck not using flash at all ... or down grade to 10.04
[04:13] <zygoptera> slipp3d | I thought you said 12.04 worked?
[04:13] <dr_willis> slipp3d:  i ten to use flash downloader extensions, or flash-replacer extsnioons taht play videos in vlc
[04:14] <dr_willis> slipp3d:  but flash is working for me on 12.10  64bit with my nvidia cards
[04:14] <usr13> antonio_: What file did you download? (Can you give us the filename?
[04:14] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: ...but if you're hitting swap, then you might want to look into ways to avoid it.
[04:14] <slipp3d> 12.04 is what I meant to type ...
[04:15] <usr13> antonio_: Does it offer install packages for different distros?
[04:15] <zygoptera> slipp3d | 12.04 isn't so bad, it will be supported much longer
[04:15] <d1rkp1tt> its not yet... but its brand new and I havent loaded it up
[04:15] <d1rkp1tt> Just thinking, it hasnt got much for what I want to do
[04:16] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Just keep an eye on it.  Also, make sure you understand memory management in Linux before you assume that your system is RAM hungry. Remember, unused RAM is wasted ram! :)
[04:16] <antonio_> usr13: nope
[04:16] <slipp3d> dr_willis, i'm running that on an intel based laptop
[04:16] <antonio_> I've got it working for now
[04:16] <usr13> antonio_: See my PM
[04:16] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p 77mb spare, isnt a lot
[04:17] <usr13> antonio_: ok good.
[04:17] <slipp3d> zygoptera, is 12.04 getting the newest version of xfce? or is it stuck on the older versions?
[04:17] <dr_willis> !latest
[04:17] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Again, make sure you understand how much *spare* RAM your system actually has!
[04:17] <zygoptera> slipp3d | I believe you can still get the newest xfce
[04:18] <vileman> who know why i couldn't find firefox in awesome except use shell
[04:18] <slipp3d> i'll have to look into that zygoptera that might be an option
[04:18] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: buffers, cache, etc...
[04:18] <cfhowlett> slipp3d, installing xfce is easy ...
[04:18] <zygoptera> slipp3d | but you can't downgrade back to 12.04, you have to reinstall
[04:18] <d1rkp1tt> Yeah I am reading from top and free-m
[04:19] <slipp3d> right ... i'm not worried about it ... just didn't want to backup and reinstall agin ...
[04:19] <slipp3d> +a
[04:19] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Linux memory management is misleading to the uninformed... (not saying that you are, just saying...)
[04:19] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p its ok... Im no expert
[04:19] <slipp3d> brb ...
[04:21] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Just keep an eye on swap and if you start digging into it and the value stadily increases, then you are indeed exhausting your physical RAM and then you'd want to address it.
[04:21] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p Thanks.
[04:21] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Until then, just enjoy your Ubuntu Server! :)
[04:21] <linux34892> I have no sound in Ubuntu 12.10 and alsamixer says cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, i tried installing alsa and pulseaudio from the repos... still no sound, soundcard is NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[04:21] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: welcome
[04:22] <zygoptera> linux34892 | does alsaconf detect any sound devices?
[04:22] <usr13> d1rkp1tt: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html
[04:23] <linux34892> zygoptera: apt-cache search alsaconf
[04:23] <linux34892> zygoptera: no program found matching that; sudo lspci -v shows a soundcard
[04:23] <usr13> linux34892: What version of Ubuntu did you install?  lsb_release -a
[04:23] <zygoptera> linux34892 | hhm. alsaconf usually comes with alsa
[04:24] <d1rkp1tt> usr13, thanks for that
[04:24] <linux34892> zygoptera: just got it working with sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[04:24] <zygoptera> ok
[04:24] <usr13> d1rkp1tt: NP
[04:25] <usr13> linux34892: Good.
[04:25] <linux34892> usr13: Description:	Ubuntu 12.10
[04:25] <usr13> linux34892: Did you do minimal install?
[04:25] <xrs> how to install tty font when fontforge is installed?
[04:25] <usr13> linux34892: (I'm wondering why alsa and pulseaudio was not installed.
[04:25] <Ben64> usr13: i was thinking the same thing
[04:26] <usr13> xrs: What?
[04:27] <xrs> google says just double lick the font and click install, but it opens in fontforge and i dont see an "install" button
[04:27] <zygoptera> xrs | are you sure it isn't already installed?
[04:27] <usr13> xrs: man fontforge
[04:28] <xrs> its a custom font that didnt come with ubuntu
[04:28] <Ben64> xrs: you have to open it with "font viewer"
[04:28] <usr13> xrs: http://font.ubuntu.com/
[04:29] <xrs> ...
[04:30] <wolftune> anybody know how to access DVDs over a network where a mac is the device with the DVD (and set to sharing)?
[04:30] <nyRednek> question, when building a custom livecd image, what needs to be removed to remove the "install" option?
[04:30] <wolftune> I can't seem to get it to show on my Ubuntu system
[04:30] <xrs> Wolfpack,  do you have samba installed?
[04:30] <wolftune> yes I installed samba
[04:31] <usr13> xrs: See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts  (ttf-mscorefonts-installer)
[04:31] <wolftune> under smb: workgroup I see the mac, but then it times out when I open it
[04:32] <usr13> wolftune: An Apple computer?
[04:32] <wolftune> the Linux computer is not Apple, the Apple is what I'm trying to access
[04:32] <wolftune> I did not install samba specifically on the Apple
[04:32] <Ben64> can you access it with anything else
[04:33] <Ben64> seems like its an apple problem
[04:33] <wolftune> I can use remote desktop and control the Apple that way
[04:33] <genoobie> hey all
[04:33] <wolftune> hi
[04:33] <cfhowlett> genoobie, greetings
[04:33] <genoobie> I just finished installing lubuntu
[04:34] <genoobie> but the video is a bit screwed up
[04:34] <genoobie> at the login if i hit ctrl+alt+f1
[04:34] <genoobie> I get a text / cli
[04:34] <genoobie> and I can loging
[04:34] <genoobie> login
[04:34] <genoobie> not sure how to fix my video tho
[04:35] <Ben64> genoobie: don't use enter as punctuation. how is the video screwed up? can you post a picture? what video card does the computer have?
[04:36] <genoobie> well it's got some form of S3 / Savage
[04:36] <genoobie> It's hard to describe the video screw-up
[04:36] <genoobie> it certainly cannot display correctly
[04:36] <genoobie> the machine says it has 133 pkgs to be updates
[04:37] <Ben64> give us a picture. and you don't need to use so many lines, use commas or periods or something
[04:37] <cfhowlett> genoobie, for a fresh install on first update, that's about right
[04:37] <thoonai> does ping send thing on other pipes as stdout? and how I detect them?
[04:37] <genoobie> okay, I will try not to use enter as a form of punctuation. Sorry.  I can't quite get a picture online.
[04:37] <loren> usr13 did you get my paste?
[04:37] <Ben64> genoobie: you don't have a cell phone with a camera, or a camera?
[04:38] <genoobie> okay, let me see if I can make that happen...
[04:38] <Tecan> http://pastebin.com/DBaeBSVs
[04:38] <Tecan> howcome i get this
[04:38] <thoonai> does ping send thing on other pipes as stdout? and how I detect them?
[04:39] <RocketLauncher> How can I get Gnome's keyboard shortcuts to work with another window manager? I don't want to fiddle with xbindkeys....
[04:39] <kunji> thoonai: Umm, you mean when someone pings your ip?
[04:39] <TheLordOfTime> Tecan, the 404s are because those PPAs likely don't support the relese you're on (thereby there's nothing to find there, hence 404)
[04:39] <Tecan> ya but how do i delete them
[04:39] <TheLordOfTime> Tecan, as for the getdeb one, i think they're down, but if they aren't its a sign you can't get there
[04:40] <usr13> loren: I don't know.   Send the URL again.
[04:40] <TheLordOfTime> Tecan, remove the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that correspond to the PPAs
[04:40] <TheLordOfTime> s/entries/files/
[04:40] <Tecan> TY
[04:40] <loren> I'll pick up the problem tomorrow. Need to quit.
[04:41] <usr13> loren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587756/ ?
[04:41] <thoonai> kunji: I want to call some programms with a python subprocess, so I called ping and read stdout, but just the general stuff and the summeray appeared on stdout, the rest (steps in between) doesnt
[04:41] <kunji> RocketLauncher: I'm not sure if you can, I don't know how that interacts too well though, maybe your other window manager supports assigning them it's own way?
[04:41] <red82> I am trying to optimize the performance of a magento installation on an ubuntu server.  can anyone suggest a good link for me to read?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> red82, this would be a good question for #ubuntu-server
[04:42] <RocketLauncher> kunji: i'm using dwm, my window manager doesn't handle any of that
[04:42] <red82> ty
[04:42] <RocketLauncher> I just wonder if there's daemon or something i can start
[04:42] <kunji> thoonai: That's interesting... because when I ping I see everything getting printed on stdout, you can check on the command line, e.g. ping google.com
[04:43] <kunji> thoonai: Are you using some non-standard implementation of ping?
[04:43] <gayle> exit
[04:44] <genoobie> Ben64 are you still here? This is what the login screen looks like the login screen looks like this....http://postimage.org/image/76g39fvnl/7648fc50/
[04:44] <thoonai> kunji: the original one from ubuntu, nothing changed
[04:44] <thoonai> if I call it in the terminal I get all output too
[04:45] <kunji> RocketLauncher: Well, I guess you wanted minimalism then, I guess you got it :P  Hmm, reading the wiki page for dwm it sounds like there should be a way from how the dmenu section reads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwm
[04:46] <kunji> thoonai: here's an example of my ping, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588100/  You're sure yours doesn't do that?
[04:49] <Tristan128> what kernel version is 12.04 using?
[04:50] <kunji> thoonai: Oh, sorry missed that post, so on terminal you get it all, exactly how are you calling it then?  Shell script called from python?  Directly from python?  It would be good if you pastebin the relevant bit of code.
[04:52] <kunji> Tristan128: There is a chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[04:53] <xrs> okay check this. i can manually install the font into my home dir, but this does not address the root cause of why i am here. i am here because the directions on how to install a font using the GUI do not apply because i have fontforge installed. double clicking on the font opens the font in fontforge and not whatever the ubuntu default is, so can you tell me the name of the package that ubuntu is supposed to be using by default?
[04:53] <makara> hi. I'm (12.04) trying to install the latest Evolution (3.2.3 > 3.4.3). I added ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 and did update, upgrade and install evolution. But it's still 3.2.3?
[04:53] <makara> its so buggy, its a schlepp to use
[04:54] <xrs> you ran sudo apt-get update first?
[04:54] <Tecan> me ?
[04:54] <xrs> @ makara,
[04:54] <djdos> Failed to open a session for the virtual machine ubuntu.  VT-x features locked or unavailable in MSR. (VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED).  Result Code: E_FAIL (0x80004005) Component: Console Interface: IConsole {db7ab4ca-2a3f-4183-9243-c1208da92392}
[04:54] <kunji> makara: Why are you trying to use  a newer one....
[04:54] <djdos> whats this for
[04:55] <djdos> ?
[04:55] <ESphynx> Somehow after ditching Unity for XFCE I get nice screensavers =) i think that's the nicest part :P
[04:55] <djdos> whats this error message ?
[04:55] <xrs> djdos,  are you trying to run a virtual machine?
[04:55] <kunji> ESphynx: You can get them in Unity as well, they're just not installed by default.
[04:55] <makara> xrs, yes, I did update
[04:55] <djdos> yes
[04:55] <Rakko> Hi all. Some of you may recall I was complaining about high-latency scrolling in my Ubuntu VM, when using my Mac's trackpad. Well, I just plugged in my mouse, and it has the same problem.
[04:56] <bluebeat09> hello!. i been trying to fix mi wifi connection for weeks now and nothingg--( wifi disconnects frequently) i have: AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[04:56] <makara> kunji, less bugs
[04:56] <bluebeat09> pleasee help!
[04:56] <ESphynx> kunji I just like nice defaults :P
[04:56] <xrs> makara,  open you software sources and try enableing backports and proposed updates
[04:56] <djdos> whats the prob
[04:56] <Rakko> I've been able to pinpoint its behavior a little more: one "click" of the scroll wheel scrolls a very small distance, maybe one line. A more vigorous motion of the wheel scrolls by the "normal" (to my standards) amounts.
[04:56] <Rakko> How do I get the initial scroll increment to not be tiny?
[04:56] <kunji> djdos: Did you read this one yet?  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=128668
[04:57] <makara> bluebeat09, what version ubuntu?
[04:57] <bluebeat09> makara: 12.10
[04:57] <kunji> ESphynx: Yeah, me too, just seemed like replacing the whole environment was a bigger jump than installing a few packages.  ^_^
[04:58] <kunji> makara: Umm, do you know for sure the new one is less buggy?  I just  don't use it at all myself.
[04:58] <makara> bluebeat09, the latest usually sorts that out. Guess not in your case. Linux been struggling with wifi cards for years
[04:59] <makara> kunji, http://askubuntu.com/questions/167475/evolution-3-4-3-on-12-04
[04:59] <kittenmittenz> wheres the offtopic channel
[04:59] <bluebeat09> makara, new linux user over here... but i figure there is something i can do to make it more stable
[05:00] <thoonai> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588124/
[05:00] <djdos> ii disabled it
[05:00] <thoonai> kittenmittenz: huh?
[05:01] <djdos> then it told me you hve to enable it
[05:01] <kittenmittenz> huh?
[05:01] <djdos> thats the solution
[05:02] <kunji> makara: Oh, you have it working, nice ^_^
[05:04] <poz> man, is it ever a hassle to get tor to work on x chat
[05:04] <makara> bluebeat09, do you have 'pre-released updates' on? make sure you get the latest updates
[05:04] <thoonai> kunji: there?
[05:05] <kunji> thoonai: Yeah, umm is the readline mayhaps getting just the last line?
[05:08] <digitalphiltv> !fan
[05:08] <thoonai> kunji: dont know but now it works
[05:08] <kittenmittens> why is it every time i set up my pc, then update it crases and nothing works?
[05:08] <thoonai> kunji: *shrugs* thanks
[05:08] <thoonai> :)
[05:08] <kittenmittens> should i be updating first?
[05:09] <digitalphiltv> ke5pcv-away, de n9td have a good evening
[05:09] <kunji> thoonai: Hmm, I'm starting to wonder if ping is buggy, at least my results seem to be inconsistent with it at the moment.
[05:10] <UndisclosedServe> (don't mean to spam just checking to see if the irc client im using connected properly)
[05:10] <thoonai> kunji: that would be extremely hilarious since ping is from the 1930s
[05:11] <thoonai> kunji: ok its not, but I think ping was the first programm after the invention of tcp/ip
[05:11] <kunji> thoonai: For instance I don't get the summary when I pipe ping http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588137/  Also I'm having another weird issue:  I've noticed something perplexing T.T, any thoughts on this issue would be appreciated.  I can ping from my desktop to my router 0% packet loss, and from my router to google 0% packet loss, but from my desktop to google I get 10-15% packet loss.  This is over > 30 pings each test and I can reproduce it on re
[05:11] <kunji> thoonai: I hope ping is ok though ^_^
[05:11] <digitalphiltv> alrighty... I am still having fan issues...and the url from the bot's !fan command which someone tried to get me to run earlier, leads me to a blank page. I'm running k10temp sensors trying to get lm-sensors' fancontrol script to run my fan because at the moment the fan is IDLING and my laptop is running VERY HOT... any ideas out there? thanks!
[05:12] <thoonai> kunji: may I ask you where do you live ^^?
[05:12] <xrs> okay found the solution. my system was missing the package "gnome-font-viewer"
[05:12] <kunji> thoonai: How specifically :P  Michigan.
[05:13] <thoonai> in soviet russia packet losses you
[05:13] <digitalphiltv> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[05:13]  * digitalphiltv is about ready to shoot pwmconfig
[05:13] <thoonai> kunji: you shouldn't have packet loss there ^^
[05:14] <kunji> xrs: Oh... that is for installing fonts?  I thought it was just for viewing them... I've always just installed them on the cmd so I didn't know the answer to GUI questions about it or I would have helped :P
[05:14] <kunji> thoonai: I know right, especially because it's ping A -> B ok, ping B -> C ok, ping A -> C ERROR
[05:15] <thoonai>  dont know, ethernet is voodoo, nothing to worry about
[05:15] <thoonai> its like hf
[05:17] <Rakko> I find mouse scrolling in modern Ubuntu annoying: one "click" of the scroll wheel scrolls a very small distance, maybe one line. A more vigorous motion of the wheel scrolls by the "normal" (to my standards) amounts. How can I make scrolling always jump a decent (and preferably consistent) amount?
[05:18] <Rakko> I don't remember it being like this in 10.10
[05:18] <thoonai> kunji: thx and I'll quit here and get some stuff working :)
[05:18] <thoonai> cu around
[05:20] <kunji> Rakko: I remember seeing a setting for how many lines it should scroll somewhere.. I can't seem to find it right now though.
[05:24] <Rakko> kunji: hmm.
[05:24] <OpheliaPandide> I need help with wifi upon installing 12.10 onto my mac 10.7
[05:24] <Rakko> actually maybe it's just firefox that is lame in this regard
[05:25] <OpheliaPandide> I have tried a lot of different things and found none to work
[05:25] <OpheliaPandide> I have to use a usb
[05:25] <kunji> Rakko: Oh, I'm pretty sure I can find the firefox setting for that, I'm pretty sure they use their own
[05:25] <Rakko> of course. firefox ftw
[05:25] <kittenmittens> can someone tell e why my laptop and pc both die after i update them
[05:26] <OpheliaPandide> does anyone have any ideas as to the wifi problem??
[05:26] <kunji> Rakko: Well, they have a lot of setting you can play with, type about:config in the address bar, press enter, tell them you'll be careful and search for mousewheel
[05:26] <kunji> *settings
[05:26] <kittenmittens> opheliapandide, have you looked in aditional drivers to see if theres a wifi driver to activate
[05:26] <Rakko> kunji: ok. I turned off "smooth scrolling" and that helped!
[05:27] <kunji> Rakko: nice ^_^
[05:27] <Rakko> but the Mac trackpad support is still laggy-feeling. oh well
[05:27] <Rakko> I'm hopefully gonna ditch this laptop soon
[05:27] <OpheliaPandide> I looked in software sources --> additional drivers
[05:27] <kittenmittens> anyone???
[05:27] <IveBeenBit> I am trying to learn the concepts behind mounting and unmounting. I go to the launcher and type "disks" which is an app that lets you see the drives attached to the system. It says my flashdrive mount point is /mnt/usb-SanDisk_Cruiser... is the mount point. Why is /mnt empty though when I ls -l /mnt?
[05:27] <OpheliaPandide> but no driver
[05:28] <kittenmittens> agh
[05:28] <kittenmittens> i need a ubuntu genious
[05:28] <kittenmittens> or a ubuntu doctor
[05:28] <Rakko> i.e. I have to move my two fingers almost halfway across the trackpad before scrolling even starts. makes everything feel very slow
[05:28] <Rakko> kittenmittens: "die"?
[05:29] <kittenmittens> well on my laptop i get filesyst em is readonly, and on pc it freezes at the startup
[05:29] <kittenmittens> sooo...
[05:29] <kittenmittens> both happen after upadting, so i dont
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> I tried sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common b43-fwcutter
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> ... from
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> http://blog.projectz.me/2012/10/21/setting-up-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-macbook-pro/
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> Getting Wifi on Ubuntu 12.10 needs manual install
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> How to:
[05:29] <FloodBot1> OpheliaPandide: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> from
[05:29] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Umm... never heard of this disks command.  I think it might be looking at cached default mount points done by the automounting?  I think what you should read on is the mount command, umount, the mtab file, and the fstab file.
[05:31] <Rakko> kittenmittens: ouch. have you asked on askubuntu or a mailing list?
[05:31] <kittenmittens> no
[05:31] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Also for getting general info about your disks read about fdisk, parted, and blkid, also maybe hdparm
[05:31] <IveBeenBit> kunji, "Disks" is a graphical app that came with Ubuntu 12.10 check it out. It reminds me of gparted. Also, thanks for the tips.
[05:31] <kittenmittens> ive been trying to get it to work on both for over a week
[05:31] <kittenmittens> dove every possible harware test, windows works flawlessly, not ubuntu
[05:32] <IveBeenBit> kunji, that's too much info for me right now as I'm still too noobish. I will be happy when I can mount and unmount USBs and IMG files from the terminal. :-)
[05:34] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Hmm, do you know the package name?  I don't have a package called disks.  Maybe udisks, or gnome-disk-utility?
[05:34] <kittenmittens> so am i doomed to windows?
[05:34] <kunji> IveBeenBit: mount is the one you want for mount the USBs, and umount to unmount them.  IMG files I forget the command for, it involves a loopback device gimme a sec to look it up.
[05:35] <IveBeenBit> kunji, This is the homepage from the "about" menu. I think it is just called "disks." https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks
[05:35] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Ah, both the packages I mentioned seem to be what it is (read the part under Status)
[05:37] <kunji> IveBeenBit: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2747/ubuntu_how_to_mount_unmount_iso_files/ Hmm, I think it's pretty much the same process for .img as well
[05:37] <np8> Hi! I'm having a problem with my wireless network. On ubuntu 12.04 it is dropping me from the internet. After it has dropped me, it tries to reconnect, asks the password and tries to reconnect forever. I tried disabling->enabling the wireless funtionality (the "flying mode") but it doesn't help. Is here anyone who can read the crash reports (i have it as 9 png's on google drive).
[05:37] <IveBeenBit> kunji, Thanks! Adding it to my reading list now!
[05:37] <kittenmittens> i feel like background noise
[05:39] <antonio_> I'm getting a bunch of errors when I first start ubuntu 12.10 up
[05:39] <ubuntuuser> hello people. having trouble with wifi. lspci shows atheros ar9285. rfkill list shows hardblocked: yes. Side switch on the network has been toggled on/off multiple times. fn+f5 showing wifi signal has been toggled multiple times. nothing. this used to work on live usb on boot. now it doesn't. any help will be appreciated.
[05:39] <antonio_> is there a terminal command I can run to find out what the hell is going on?
[05:40] <antonio_> anyone?
[05:40] <sockswithsandals> Hello
[05:41] <ubuntuuser> lshw -class network still shows *-network DISABLED.
[05:41] <ice-> .
[05:41] <sockswithsandals> Is there a way to get the oldschool verbose boot with the little tux in the upper left corner?
[05:41] <np8> ubuntuuser: I'm having almost the same problem.. my crash report is here: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B-msgBr6cWoATmQxVzBuS1VpYjA/edit .. anyone know what I can do? Rebooting helps, though.
[05:41] <antonio_> I'm so over ubuntu
[05:41] <antonio_> nothing is working
[05:41] <antonio_> I can't open pdfs
[05:41] <ubuntuuser> np8: mine doesn't work with rebooting. doesn't work at all. using wired currently.
[05:42] <ice-> anyone knows if there's an IRC channel for picuntu? http://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/wiki/PicUntu
[05:42] <kittenmittens> how do i make ubuntu work
[05:42] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: you're trying to open pdf file using what?
[05:42] <sockswithsandals> antonio_: Why not?
[05:42] <antonio_> document viewer
[05:42] <antonio_> doesn't open them
[05:42] <sockswithsandals> WHat does it say?
[05:42] <antonio_> nothing
[05:42] <antonio_> it doesn't do anything
[05:42] <kunji> kittenmittens: It's because no one here at the moment knows the answer and you've been spamming a bit.  Typically you should just ask your question and then be patient because if someone knows they will help.  If your question is long or you have lots of supporting data (logs, screenshots, etc..) you should pastebin them and post the link with your question.  You should probably not ask the question again for at least 15 minutes, otherwise 
[05:42] <ubuntuuser> sockswithsandals: the tux logo was part of the free kernel settings. so suppose you'll have to recompile the kernel unless that has changed lately.
[05:42] <sockswithsandals> try opening it in the terminal, antonio_
[05:43] <gh403> Grub2 recommends that it not be installed to a partition's boot sector.  Yet Ubuntu seems to do this if you ask it, during the installation.  Is this an issue in practice?
[05:43] <dr_willis> gh403:  if you tell it to install to sda1 yes it can... but normally it would go on sda
[05:43] <kittenmittens> -_-
[05:43] <gh403> dr_willis:
[05:43] <dr_willis> gh403:  some people want to chainload grub
[05:44] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: it doesn't open any pdfs or just the one you've tried. some pdfs tend to be huge and take a while to open. others tends to be empty.
[05:44] <antonio_> I'm also getting a lot of all pdfs
[05:45] <gh403> Yeah, I want to, dr_willis.  But Grub doesn't like that.  See the blue box in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Install_to_Partition_or_Partitionless_Disk
[05:45] <antonio_> also I'm getting a lot of "system program problem detected...do you want to report the problem now"
[05:46] <antonio_> is there any way to find out what is broken on my system?
[05:47] <Rabblerouser> I just messed up my Wubi install. :S
[05:48] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: is this a livecd or a properly installed system? system program problem sounds a little serious.
[05:48] <Rabblerouser> Was trying to get graphics drivers on, but.. erm... when I restarted, I had no.. no Unity. No bar at the top when logging in, no sidebar. Just a wallpaper.
[05:49] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  what video card?
[05:49] <antonio_> ubuntuuser: its installed
[05:49] <Rabblerouser> I rightclicked to go to appearance settings, then backed out to see it wasn't running under "Unknown" but "VESA RV(something)"
[05:49] <Rabblerouser> ATI Radeon HD 4670
[05:50] <dr_willis> and how did you install the drivers Rabblerouser ?
[05:50] <antonio_> brb
[05:51] <Rabblerouser> Well, I kinda.. forgot there were updates in the background, so I went to looking for guidance online (sorta newbie) The tries in Terminal were blocked because apparently something else was looking at the process?
[05:51] <Rabblerouser> I'll just reinstall the Wubi thing
[05:52] <Rabblerouser> At least I think they USED to call it Wubi.
[05:52] <dr_willis> better to avoid wubi
[05:52] <Rabblerouser> How so, dr_willis?
[05:52] <dr_willis> its fragile, flakey, crashy, and slower then a full install
[05:53] <antonio_> ubuntu 12.10 is starting to get very annoying
[05:53] <Rabblerouser> I did notice it was incredibly slower than the LiveUSB.. I chocked that up to not having a proper graphics driver installed yet
[05:54] <antonio_> 10.04 worked fine...and I stupidly updated
[05:54] <antonio_> I'm getting a ton of crashes
[05:54] <dr_willis> !10,04
[05:54] <antonio_> for example just now
[05:54] <Dorito> PENIS
[05:54] <dr_willis> !10.04
[05:54] <antonio_> "the application photo lens for unity has closed unexpectdly"
[05:54] <Dorito> (sorry)
[05:54] <dr_willis> 10.04 will be eol soon
[05:55] <dr_willis> for desktop at least
[05:55] <antonio_> frick..I can't even open a damn pdf
[05:55] <Rabblerouser> Any idea when a 13.xx LTS might release? :3 And what it might bring?
[05:55] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  the version # is the date... year/month
[05:55] <dr_willis> of reelease
[05:56] <Rabblerouser> Aaaah. Gotcha.
[05:56] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have articals on whats going to be new in 13.04
[05:56] <antonio_> when I try to open a pdf with xpdf term spits this out
[05:56] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/txFNHTjs
[05:56] <Rabblerouser> Should note again, I'm a linux newbie, but really wish it well. :) Even if it confounds me sometimes
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> I love penis so much
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> Penises are so nice
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> and soft
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> well
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> sometimes hard
[05:58] <FloodBot1> M4dN3ss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <Dorito> rarely
[05:58] <antonio_> Looks like the ghost of Steve Jobs is here hating on Linux ;)
[05:59] <Rabblerouser> D: Purge him
[05:59] <dr_willis> antonio_:  core dumps can be very haard to trouble shoot for beginners.. and even experienced  coders.
[05:59] <Dorito> M4dN3ss: omg me too
[05:59] <Dorito> but not really, only mine
[06:00] <antonio_> dr_willis: is there any kind of program I can run silently to find out what the hell is going on???
[06:00] <antonio_> or a term command to fix this crap?
[06:00] <kittenmittens> how do i make ubuntu work
[06:01] <dr_willis> antonio_:   if you ahve a lot of apps core duming. it could be some memory issues.. or other very complex problems that are going to be hard to track down
[06:01] <antonio_> I'm so over ubuntu right now
[06:01] <kittenmittens> lol.. mine wont even start
[06:01] <Rabblerouser> How much of an overhead does Unity ahve?
[06:01] <M4dN3ss> kittenmittens, your penis wont start?
[06:01] <M4dN3ss> that's so weird
[06:01] <M4dN3ss> my penis is always ready to go
[06:01] <dr_willis> I have very few issues with 12.10 on my systeems
[06:03] <Dmnchild_> Anyone familiar with setquota? having a hard time trying to limit a users allocated space to 100gb
[06:03] <Dorito> ubuntu 13.0 will have always-on penis support M4dN3ss
[06:03] <Ben64> antonio_: try evince
[06:04] <neodragon> OK so I am updating my daughters edubuntu 12.04  laptop and the first thing I noticed was it kept hanging when it got to updating initramfs, no errors, it just hung there. I eventually just killed the updater and tried running 'sudo update-initramfs -vvv -u' in a terminal and it keeps hanging again once it gets to 'Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' I have found nothing online so
[06:04] <kittenmittens> i dont have a penis
[06:04] <kittenmittens> when can i try 13.0?
[06:04] <antonio_> ben64: whats that?
[06:04] <Ben64> antonio_: pdf viewer
[06:05] <Ben64> !info evince
[06:06] <Ben64> kittenmittens: 13.04 is in alpha, support and discussion in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <antonio_> ben64: no pdf viewers are working
[06:06] <Ben64> try it and pastebin the result?
[06:09] <antonio_> ben64: no pdf viewers are working
[06:10] <dr_willis> antonio_:  a bigger question is - are other apps crashing the same way
[06:10] <Ben64> yeah i saw that last time you said it
[06:10] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade-from-1
[06:10] <scary_one> hey guys... Ubuntu noob here I have a Intel GMA 3150 video card, and I've tried to install XF86-Video-Intel and now my ubuntu boots into low-graphics mode heres my X.org log http://pastebin.com/uJtSmqaz
[06:10] <ubuntuuser> rebooting....
[06:11] <dr_willis> scary_one:  intel drivers re included.. wht did you install exctly? and from where?
[06:13] <scary_one> dr_willis xf86-video-intel - 2.20.12 from 01.org
[06:13] <scary_one> and all the packages it requested
[06:13] <dr_willis> 01.org ? who are they?
[06:14] <scary_one> intel open source technology center
[06:14] <scary_one> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[06:14] <gormanator> hey everyone....im kinda new to ubuntu, and trying to get multitouch to work...with limited success, can anyone here point me in the right direction?
[06:15] <gormanator> I can do two finger scrolling...I tried to install touchegg...but nothing happened
[06:15] <dr_willis> scary_one:  you really need to be seeing their forum and support site - since its not  stuff from the ubuntu repositories
[06:15] <gormanator> I was just wondering if anyone here had any experience with getting multitouch to work
[06:15] <gormanator> and if they would help me out...if not no worries
[06:16] <scary_one> dr_willis tried to get help from them :) they directed my here :D
[06:16] <dr_willis> scary_one:  that would be a good sign to not use their stuff...
[06:16] <dr_willis> most people use the xswat ppa's for updateing X stuff.
[06:16] <dr_willis> ive never heard of anyone in here mention 01.org
[06:17] <scary_one> its intel linux site
[06:18] <kunji> dr_willis: Isn't all the stuff on their site already in Ubuntu?  Why repackage it.. weird.
[06:19] <dr_willis> xswat has newer updates not in the official repos
[06:19] <dr_willis> no idea what 01.org is doing ;)
[06:19] <dr_willis> unless its where the xswat guys get the updated patches and code from
[06:19] <neodragon> OK so I am updating my daughters edubuntu 12.04  laptop and the first thing I noticed was it kept hanging when it got to updating initramfs, no errors, it just hung there. I eventually just killed the updater and tried running 'sudo update-initramfs -vvv -u' in a terminal and it keeps hanging again once it gets to 'Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' I have found nothing online so
[06:20] <kunji> scary_one: I think when they referred you here they meant for you to use the versions in the Ubuntu repos, my best guess is that they package it like that for people that are using distros without their own facilities.
[06:23] <scary_one> any ideas how to fix it?
[06:23] <juliano_> join//
[06:23] <Ben64> scary_one: undo whatever you did
[06:24] <Rabblerouser> What is "mint" btw?
[06:24] <Ben64> !mint | Rabblerouser
[06:24] <Ben64> Rabblerouser: ok thats not really descriptive. its based on ubuntu but uses a different DE and other stuff
[06:24] <Rabblerouser> Domo arigato, Mr. ubottu
[06:24] <scary_one> i think it will be easier and quikcer to reinstall
[06:24] <Ben64> scary_one: could be
[06:24] <scary_one> :)
[06:25] <kunji> scary_one: Could be if you just installed.  Maybe just removing the package an installing from the Ubuntu repos would work.
[06:25] <kunji> *and
[06:27] <neodragon> can anyone help me with a initramfs update that just hangs, no errors, nothing, it just hangs and never completes and now after I killed that process it won't let me use synaptic or apt-get either, it says another process is running
[06:29] <kunji> That 01.org logo looks a lot like the nepomuk one.  They seem legit except that the intel logo is nowhere to be found, there is a copyright notice at the bottom of the page.  Maybe their lack of branding is supposed to make them seem more open source friendly... or to distance the rest of the company from it, who knows...
[06:30] <kittenmittens> is it possible that ubuntu 13.04 will run better on my pc than 12.10, im aving alot of issues with 12.10
[06:36] <xrs> your welcome to try out the latest builds and proposed updates
[06:37] <vvoid> I went through a crypto nightmare, but I could restore my data thanks to all of your good work. Thanks. Btw: never let your ecryptfs mounts run out of space
[06:37] <xrs> or try out an older version that is still supported
[06:37] <xrs> thanks vvoid
[06:38] <vvoid> I used to be more one of the rtfm guys, but there are times when one is in need of good community work
[06:40] <neodragon> ok so even though I see multiple posts online about ubuntu 12.04 hanging in the middle of updating initramfs, no one in here either has any idea about how to fix it or cares to help is that it?
[06:42] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, or nobody's around who can help.
[06:42] <Ububegin> W: Failed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found .... Which repository shld i change to now ?
[06:42] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, at least in here, that could be the case.
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, hangs are hard to debug - so if there's "no solution" you need patience
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> !10.10 | Ububegin
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> Ububegin, solution is to upgrade to a supported release (at least 11.10)
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> (although i suggest 12.04 since 11.10 EOLs in april)
[06:44] <Ububegin> TheLordOfTime: This is a legacy machine... Isnt there any archives to still cont'd apt-get -ing
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> Ububegin, not with 10.10.
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> !eol | Ububegin
[06:45] <xrs> neodragon,  have you tried turning on verbose=yes in /etc/default/rcS and logging the startup?
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> Ububegin, you can try using old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead in your apt repos/mirrors
[06:46] <TheLordOfTime> but those aren't supported, keep that in mind
[06:46] <TheLordOfTime> since 10.10's EOL it gets *no* security updates and *no* other updates
[06:46] <neodragon> xrs: its not the startup/boot that is the problem, it boots just fine, it is the updating of initramfs that hangs and it keeps hanging on '/lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' for some reason, but it gives no errors
[06:47] <lud> i need help on ARM image
[06:48] <neodragon> xrs: or rather it hangs when it gets to adding that module during the update
[06:48] <scaris> hm
[06:48] <scaris> changed my default display manager to gdm
[06:49] <scary_one> now i'm stuck at ubuntu load screen
[06:50] <scary_one> the dot's are channging colors buut nothing else happens
[06:50] <lud> i want to install ubuntu ARM image to an m960 android tablet
[06:55] <xrs> neodragon,  first thing i would try is removing that package, updateing, then put it back on
[06:55] <xrs> driver*
[07:00] <xrs> aww i found an answer for him but he left
[07:01] <kittenmittens> i need answers
[07:02] <xrs> to what? im sorry all i see is your question about 13.04
[07:02] <kittenmittens> dont worry :) nobodys been able to help me all week
[07:03] <xrs> to that i say you are free to roll back to an older version of ubuntu, or try out the latest builds and proposed updates
[07:03] <kittenmittens> ive tryed 12.04 12.10 and im about to try 13.04
[07:04] <Ben64> kittenmittens: give more info. just saying "i need help" or "it doesn't work" does not help
[07:04] <red82> xrs: you were just too slow for neodragon
[07:04] <red82> shame really
[07:06] <kittenmittens> well i dont know whats wrong, after installing i update and everything breaks every time, its always differnt, ether my filesystem goes read only and nobody can fix that for a week, or like now it just wont boot
[07:06] <xrs> lol i know who you are
[07:06] <xrs> what filesystem are you using?
[07:07] <kittenmittens> its not my hardware, redownloaded ubuntu countless times, checked md5 every time, tryed cd and usb, and having the same issues on 2 comouters
[07:07] <kittenmittens> me? ive tryed both ext3 and 4
[07:07] <kittenmittens> no difference
[07:08] <xrs> how long does the clean install take?
[07:08] <kittenmittens> like 10 minutes?
[07:08] <xrs> hmm
[07:08] <xrs> if it was a USB issue it would take a lot longer than that.
[07:08] <kittenmittens> all my hardware is fine
[07:09] <kittenmittens> ive checked literally 50 billion times now, everyone keeps blaming my hardware or the iso
[07:09] <xrs> well i had similar problems and my problem was the thumbdrives. i had to buy new ones
[07:09] <kittenmittens> i tryed cd too
[07:09] <kittenmittens> and 2 thumb drives
[07:09] <kittenmittens> nothing is broke n
[07:09] <xrs> next the problems i was having had to do with udisks. it didnt have proper support for ext2
[07:09] <kepler> install it in a VM on the computer you're on now, if you do everything the same and it works, then it is hardware
[07:10] <kittenmittens> its not the hardware
[07:10] <kepler> well millions of other people are using the same ISOs, so it isn't ubuntu
[07:10] <kepler> it may not be faulty hardware, it may just be unsupported hardware
[07:10] <xrs> kittenmittens,  its a good idea.   when troubleshooting computers you gotta tinker and rule out all possibilities, find out what works (and i dont mean just hardware) and what doesnt
[07:11] <kittenmittens> mhmm.. my brand new computer that has a readout screen of every tiny issue that could possibly happen, on the motherboard hasnt found anything
[07:11] <kittenmittens> ive doe checks and tests people ahve told me to do for days
[07:11] <xrs> so currently it is not booting, can you see anything on the screen?
[07:11] <kittenmittens> ive ruled out hardware
[07:11] <xrs> can you watch the startup process?
[07:11] <kepler> what computer is it? do other operating systems work?
[07:12] <kittenmittens> it goes purple and we tryed a differnt kernal and it gets stuck at initializing ramdisks? or something
[07:12] <kittenmittens> windows works flawlessly
[07:12] <kepler> do you have a link to the hardware in it?
[07:13] <kittenmittens> its an 8core amd 3+ at 3.5 ghz, on an asus crosshair vformula z motherboard, with 16 gigs of ddr3 1866mhz ram at 10 - 10 - 10 -24 clocks, on 2 sticks. i have a 250 gb vortex 4 sata 3 ssd
[07:13] <xrs> kittenmittens,  there is some good info here: http://blog.tridgell.net/?p=57
[07:13] <kittenmittens> and an msi 7950 -_-
[07:14] <kepler> ok, in bios do you have the hd stuff set to ahci, ide passthrough, anything?
[07:14] <kittenmittens> ill check
[07:15] <kittenmittens> the post is so fast you gotta use a button on the motherboard to get to it.. its anoying
[07:15] <kepler> uefi stuff can be weird too
[07:16] <xrs> yeah hardware ment for win8 boots way too fast
[07:16] <kittenmittens> um
[07:16] <kittenmittens> i dont know how to do that on my bios.. theres litterlally thousands of options
[07:17] <kittenmittens> oh i found it
[07:17] <xrs> im sure there was a manual printed
[07:17] <kittenmittens> on chip sata channel is enabled, and they are all set to ahci
[07:17] <kittenmittens> and sata esp is disabled ona ll the ports, i dont know what that means
[07:17] <xrs> bookmark that page i gave ya so u can check it l8r
[07:18] <JustinW> yo
[07:18] <kittenmittens> i cant, i have no stable os atm
[07:18] <xrs> no persistence file?
[07:18] <kittenmittens> so can anyone help me?
[07:18] <JustinW> what is a good tool for automatic file replication between servers?
[07:18] <JustinW> ubuntu linux.
[07:18] <kepler> what other options are there for the ahci?
[07:18] <xrs> yeah that page i gave you has some useful info
[07:19] <kittenmittens> ide and raid
[07:19] <kepler> throw it on ide and see how it goes
[07:20] <kittenmittens> wont that make it slower
[07:20] <kepler> no
[07:20] <kepler> it is still a 3 or 6g sata port, it just pretends it is ide
[07:20] <kittenmittens> locked up on purple screen again
[07:20] <xrs> JustinW, http://sourceforge.net/projects/synchronicity/?source=directory
[07:21] <kepler> what do you see prior to that purple screen?
[07:21] <xrs> kittenmittens,  do you have persistence?
[07:21] <kittenmittens> nothing
[07:21] <kittenmittens> i dont know what that is xrs
[07:21] <kepler> no post, grub, nothing?
[07:21] <kittenmittens> i can get grub if i spam shift like a maniake sometimes
[07:22] <xrs> are you running from a live USB, if you were to save a file to it would it still be there next time you booted? why cant you look at that page
[07:22] <kittenmittens> and i never see post
[07:22] <Sara> hey, I m using dualboot win 7 ubuntu 12.04. needed to reinstall win 7. used bootrepair recomended option and now my win is working but grub is not
[07:22] <Sara> I don't see any option to log in ubuntu
[07:22] <kepler> and you get through the entire install successfully, and it asks you to reboot, then does this?
[07:22] <Ben64> !grub | Sara
[07:23] <kittenmittens> no, it works fine and lovingly
[07:23] <Sara> thanks ben
[07:23] <kittenmittens> untill i update, or install graphics drivers, or sometimes randomly after a restart
[07:24] <kepler> ok, so when you update, are you using the provided opensource drivers, or proprietary?
[07:24] <Sara> but it is just saying to use boot repair
[07:24] <Sara> I already used bootrepair
[07:24] <greek> Hi how do I check whether my system is 32 or 64 bit? Thanks.
[07:24] <kittenmittens> tryed both
[07:24] <Sara> my win is working
[07:24] <kepler> greek, uname -a
[07:24] <greek> kepler thanks
[07:25] <kepler> kittenmittens, then it is something else. try doing only software updates, without drivers. see if those work
[07:25] <kittenmittens> kelper is a space teliscoe that found alot of planets
[07:25] <kepler> is that machine on right now? if you hit ctrl+alt+f3, does it go to a console?
[07:25] <kittenmittens> ok.. on 12.10 or 13.04?
[07:26] <kittenmittens> no its completly frozen
[07:26] <kepler> numlock doesn't go off and on if you hit it?
[07:26] <kittenmittens> no
[07:27] <kittenmittens> so want me to install 13.04 or 12.10?
[07:27] <kepler> well, you're right, does't seem like hardware.
[07:27] <Ben64> why not 12.04?
[07:27] <kepler> id go with 12.10
[07:28] <tahitipetey> How would I get my *public* IPv6 address from within the terminal? (I'm ssh'd into an instance remotely, no GUI/browsers to visit sites like my-ip6.com). If it makes any difference, it's an Amazon EC2 instance.
[07:28] <xrs> that page i linked describes your exact problem and how it was fixed. did you ever look at it?
[07:29] <Ben64> tahitipetey: ifconfig
[07:29] <kepler> tahitipetey, netstat -ie
[07:29] <genoobie> hey all
[07:29] <genoobie> questions about video here
[07:30] <genoobie> I have a crappy video card
[07:30] <genoobie> an lubuntu install that doesn't quite work and an xubuntu live that gives me video
[07:30] <genoobie> here's the thing
[07:30] <FloodBot1> genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <kittenmittens> whats the oem installl do
[07:31] <xrs> its for OEMs who have their own configs and answer files
[07:32] <genoobie> I was hoping to use the video information from the live CD to somehow help lubuntu get started.  When I boot lubuntu, the splash screen is OK, but the screen for lightdm looks goofed.  When I go the the xubuntu livecd, there's obviously no dm
[07:32] <JustinW> is this IRC for ubuntu server (ubuntu linux on servers)?
[07:32] <JustinW> or mainly the os lol
[07:32] <Ben64> ubuntu support
[07:32] <xrs> #ubuntu-server
[07:33] <genoobie> so the wm/de screen is just fine.  any tips on how to get the lubuntu jumpstarted?  I was going to try and bypass the dm, with an ~/.xinitrc
[07:33] <genoobie> but I don't have rw access to the drive or the permissions are funny...
[07:33] <tahitipetey> Ben64 & kepler: Ah, right, since IPv6 addresses are global, what's on ifconfig would be the global address! Jeez, why didn't I realize that earlier, hah.
[07:33] <genoobie> any suggestions?
[07:34] <Ben64> tahitipetey: not exactly, but since its a server there isn't going to be an internal address/nat stuff going on
[07:34] <Ben64> genoobie: when you're installing it should ask you about logging in automatically
[07:34] <p4> #jogja
[07:34] <tahitipetey> Ben64: EC2 servers *are* behind NAT. It's IPv4 address on ifconfig is not the global address.
[07:34] <genoobie> ben64, no, sadly it didn't
[07:34] <kepler> the ipv6 should be global
[07:34] <Ben64> tahitipetey: really? weird
[07:34] <kepler> unless you have an fe80:: or something
[07:35] <genoobie> my guess is that will fix the problem
[07:35] <genoobie> but I'm not sure how to make that happen
[07:35] <tahitipetey> kepler: Ouch... I do. Or rather, the server does have a fe80::... address :(
[07:35] <Ben64> genoobie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1472113
[07:35] <kepler> that is link local then
[07:36] <kepler> is it fe80:<mac address>:<other stuff> ?
[07:36] <genoobie> Ben64, I'll try that, thanks!
[07:37] <anan_> Hi, just reconnected to screen and prompt changed to 'user@host:(unreachable)/$' - pwd doesn't return home eitheir, or anything for that matter
[07:37] <Sara> I faild to repair my grub2 need help
[07:37] <Ben64> tahitipetey: you could use a website that tells you your public address then
[07:37] <genoobie> Ben64, does it use lxdm or lightdm
[07:37] <Ben64> genoobie: might be lightdm, not sure
[07:38] <genoobie> eff, I'll edit every dm file
[07:38] <Sara> grub rescue is usefull before using bootrepair. I already have my win I
[07:38] <p4> hi
[07:38] <p4> i need help
[07:39] <Sara> reinstalled windows 7 and repaired using recommended option now win works but I cannot log in ubuntu anymore
[07:39] <Sara> can somone walk with me through it?
[07:39] <Ben64> Sara: what didn't work when you tried to fix grub
[07:39] <xrs> !boot-repair
[07:39] <kittenmittens> yeah windows bootloader messes up ubuntus and looads before it
[07:40] <Sara> I cannot see the page that says file not found > rescure grub
[07:40] <kittenmittens> thats why you always install llinux after windows, unless you wanna be mucking around
[07:40] <xrs> sara, you will need to boot the computer using a live CD or DVD
[07:41] <kittenmittens> or usb
[07:41] <Sara> Im in live cd
[07:41] <Sara> live usb actually
[07:41] <xrs> you have boot-repair installed?
[07:41] <Ben64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:41] <Ben64> start at 2nd option
[07:41] <seeqwell> grub-rescue-pc - GRUB bootable rescue images, version 2 (PC/BIOS version) Sara
[07:42] <Sara> that would be great if we could repair it just with ubuntu live usb not by makeing another bootable usb
[07:43] <Ben64> you can
[07:43] <Sara> Ben64 can you tell me how
[07:43] <Sara> ?
[07:43] <Ben64> i just pasted the link
[07:43] <tripelb> Re if I receivers/adaptors. Here's the list from MonoPrice http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&cp_id=10501 --doew anyone know if any of these is k own to work with Ubuntu?   Not a long list, 3 cards, one g and 3 n. And 2 more N's at double speed 300 Mps
[07:43] <kittenmittens> im updating, so we will see..
[07:44] <kepler> skipping drivers?
[07:44] <Ben64> tripelb: read the comments on them
[07:44] <kittenmittens> yeah
[07:44] <kepler> tahitipetey, http://mellowd.co.uk/ccie/?p=1363 has some info on the ipv6 ranges if you're interested.
[07:44] <Sara> I saw the link its using different methods to repair grub i don't know which is mine
[07:44] <tahitipetey> kepler: Thanks! I'll read through that :)
[07:44] <kittenmittens> whats is ipv6 for?
[07:45] <kittenmittens> THINGS ONLY USE IPV6?
[07:45] <kepler> increase IP address space
[07:45] <Ben64> Sara: i said start at 2nd option
[07:45] <kepler> right now we're on ipv4
[07:45] <kittenmittens> caps*
[07:45] <kepler> which was actually an experiment that just got out of hand
[07:45] <kittenmittens> why do we need more space
[07:45] <kepler> we're out of ipv4 addresses, actually
[07:45] <kittenmittens> really?
[07:45] <xrs> its like running out of telephone numbers and having to add extra digits
[07:45] <kepler> well, they have all been assigned. i think due to poor planning, we only actually use like 15% of them
[07:46] <kittenmittens> but not everything accepts ipv6 adresses
[07:46] <Ben64> pretty much everything does now, but this is offtopic
[07:46] <kepler> i think everything does now
[07:46] <kittenmittens> are we talking about isp provided adresses? /exchange
[07:46] <kepler> yes
[07:46] <kittenmittens> hm
[07:46] <tahitipetey> kittenmittens: All ISP's are IPv6 complaint. Since June a few years back...
[07:47] <kepler> if you want to knwo more, we can go to off topic, or you can PM me, Ben64 is right, this isn't the place for that talk
[07:47] <kittenmittens> ive never really nudged into external ip's
[07:47] <tahitipetey> Oh, I shouldn't say "All". Certainly the North American/European ones. Can't vouch for some backwater ISP in some developing nation...
[07:48] <kittenmittens> learning is fun :) thank god for the collective human knowledge being at my fingertips
[07:48] <anan_> Hi, anyone know why terminal prompt says 'user@host:(unreachable)/$' after reconnecting with a detached screen?
[07:49] <Sara> is it possible to write grub commands without logging off ubuntu?
[07:49] <Ben64> anan_: do you have encryption on the drive or the home directory?
[07:49] <Sara> terminal does not accept it
[07:49] <Ben64> Sara: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[07:50] <genoobie> Ugh, Ben64 that didn't work...
[07:50] <anan_> Ben64: I don't think so, it might be nothing as it only occured after calling on screen using it's pid
[07:50] <genoobie> it must be the mode of the monitor
[07:50] <genoobie> any way to change that from cli?
[07:51] <anan_> Ben64: only pwd doesn't return anything anymore :P
[07:52] <genoobie> the splash screens look great
[07:52] <Sara> my grub location and grub options are gray (not available)
[07:52] <genoobie> the only thing that I can think is that the installer was a text installer
[07:53] <thechef> Is nvidia-current-updates in 12.04 not pointing to 310, because 1) it never will in 12.04, 2) nvidia doesn't declare 310 as stable-enough for LTS systems 3) still in testing 4) because 304 is still supported and for >304 version to appear in LTS 304 must first come to EOL 5) other?
[07:55] <kittenmittens> thechef, is this who wants to be a millionair?
[07:55] <woo> exit
[07:55] <woo> sry* :p
[07:55] <woo> laters
[07:55] <kittenmittens> compiz crashed while its installing the updates
[07:56] <thechef> kittenmittens: almost - but if you win doesn't depend on if you're correct - If I don't like the answer you're out :-)
[07:56] <kittenmittens> :o
[07:57] <alumno19> Hola
[07:58] <xrs> ** (gnome-font-viewer:14048): WARNING **: Install failed: can't find any configured user font directory.
[07:58] <xrs> what file do i need to edit to fix that?
[07:58] <alumno19> vamos locoooo
[07:58] <kittenmittens> ok it updated ok
[07:58] <xrs> !sp
[07:59] <kittenmittens> compiz keeps crashing though
[07:59] <alumno20> alumno 19 me suena yu nombre
[07:59] <linocisco> is there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?
[07:59] <alumno19> y a mi el tuyo locooo
[07:59] <kittenmittens> kepler?
[07:59] <kepler> kittenmittens, can you disable it?
[07:59] <kepler> did it say why it was crashing?
[08:00] <kittenmittens> yeah
[08:00] <Ben64> kittenmittens: sounds like you have a .... hardware problem
[08:00] <kittenmittens> because its doing software rendering reather than hardware rendering
[08:00] <juniour> hi guys how to format write procted usb drives or sd card
[08:00] <juniour> plz help
[08:00] <kittenmittens> thats what it says
[08:00] <kepler> go into settings and change it from xrandr or whatever to the other option
[08:00] <Ben64> kittenmittens: then start up in Ubuntu 2D
[08:00] <aeon-ltd> juniour: if there's a hardware tab switch it to writable first...
[08:00] <xrs> alumno20,  try #ubuntu-es
[08:01] <linocisco> is there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?
[08:01] <kittenmittens> mmh
[08:01] <kittenmittens> what are the best amd drivers
[08:01] <juniour> aeon-ltd explain plz
[08:01] <juniour> wt hard ware tab its sd card
[08:01] <helmut_> hi
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> juniour: sometimes they have a tab that switches it from writable to read only
[08:02] <xrs> some SD cards have a lock. an actual lock you can slide
[08:02] <xrs> like the old floppy disks
[08:02] <juniour> no nothing like that
[08:02] <Ben64> almost every sd card has one
[08:02] <juniour> it a micro sd card of 2gb
[08:02] <kepler> kittenmittens, try sudo apt-get install fglrx
[08:02] <kepler> that is what i use for my workstation
[08:02] <juniour> it write procted
[08:03] <juniour> how will i remove
[08:03] <linocisco> is there any Nagio like free software for infrastructure monitoring?
[08:03] <juniour> or formate the sd card
[08:03] <Ben64> !repeat | linocisco
[08:03] <basso> hello, my laptop has 20gb of ram, how can i make the system use more for my benefit?
[08:03] <juniour> aeon-ltd any idea
[08:03] <basso> i have disabled swap
[08:03] <juniour> basso use 64 bit machine
[08:03] <kepler> basso, http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> basso: swappiness=0
[08:04] <Ben64> juniour: really you should check the card for a switch. especially if you have it in an adapter
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> !swappiness
[08:04] <kittenmittens> it says invalid operation fglrx
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> basso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[08:05] <xrs> basso,  check out tip #10 http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html
[08:05] <kepler> sudo apt-get install fglrx ??
[08:05] <kepler> did you get install in there
[08:05] <xrs> he has no swap. changing the swappiness isnt going to do anything
[08:05] <kittenmittens> ah that worked
[08:05] <juniour> hee thanks all i got it :)
[08:06] <xrs> instead i directed him to move the /tmp dir to RAM
[08:06] <basso> aeon-ltd: but I don't have a swap partion on my computer
[08:06] <juniour> basso use 64 bit operating system
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> i've no experience with them, but would a ramdisk be worth the effort
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> ?
[08:06] <xrs> yes
[08:06] <linocisco> ok
[08:06] <basso> juniour: i am using a 64bit operatingsystem :)
[08:06] <basso> thinkpad master race
[08:06] <Ben64> i have /tmp on ram, and i only have 8GB
[08:06] <Sara> ben64  what does it mean:   root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/sda4/ mnt mount: mount point mnt does not exist
[08:06] <Ben64> Sara: what are you doing?!
[08:06] <kingbeast> linocisco: pm!!
[08:07] <aeon-ltd> Sara: that's not the right syntax
[08:07] <Ben64> Sara: i've given you this link 4 times now, this is much easier than anything you're trying to do. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:07] <juniour> basso then you will be able to use most of the ram, except some of it will be restricted for hardware
[08:07] <Sara> I installed win 7 and i used recommended option in bootrepair win came back not ubuntu
[08:08] <Sara> the rest is according http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxZRjjPjic8
[08:08] <juniour> Sara fix mbr
[08:08] <xrs> sara seriously. what are you doing. Ben64  gave you very simple way to fix it
[08:09] <Hanmac_> i hope someone could help me i have a crititcal vhost problem ... i try to access vhost1 with addr "xyz.local" but for some reason it trys to redirect me to "abc.local" with was an old vhost ... and i dont know how to deactivate this ... ("abc.local" is removed from all etc/hosts files ... )
[08:09] <Sara> Ok i didnot understand that . he gave me boot repair link
[08:09] <basso> there, i have moved /tmp to ram
[08:09] <Sara> and grub location and grub options are gray
[08:09] <Ben64> basso: you could also move firefox cache to /tmp
[08:09] <kepler> Hanmac_, try " sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart "
[08:10] <xrs> sara copy and paste this into the terminal window: ﻿sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[08:10] <kittenmittens> ok that instaled and im rebooting now
[08:10] <Sara> already have boot repair installed on usb
[08:10] <kepler> Hanmac_, if that doesn't work " sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start "
[08:10] <kepler> kittenmittens, good luck
[08:10] <Sara> tell me the rest please
[08:11] <xrs> open it
[08:11] <Sara> its open
[08:11] <kittenmittens> ya, this is what happened last time, i have no desktop now, no unity or anything just a blank desktop
[08:11] <linocisco> I want network monitoring tool like PRTG but should be free of charge
[08:12] <adamshumpisxxx> Anyone online who's knowledgeable with MATE?
[08:12] <Sara> xrs whats next please
[08:12] <kittenmittens> i can right click and changed desktop background adn get back to settingd from there..
[08:12] <Ben64> adamshumpisxxx: we don't support mate here
[08:12] <xrs> im installing boot repair so i can walk you through it. be warned my system is probably the slowest in this room
[08:12] <adamshumpisxxx> Well, it's MATE on Ubuntu 12.10 Netboot. Does that make a difference?
[08:12] <genoobie> okay Ben64
[08:13] <Ben64> adamshumpisxxx: nope, sorry
[08:13] <genoobie> so I changed those lines in lightdm.conf
[08:13] <genoobie> no change
[08:13] <kepler> kittenmittens, hit atl+f2 and amdcccle
[08:13] <kepler> or if you can open a terminale
[08:13] <genoobie> this sucks.
[08:13] <Hanmac_> kepler the first one does not exist on my system, the second one does, but it seems that it does not have any afffect ... moment i restart firefox
[08:13] <adamshumpisxxx> Would anyone be able to point me to an IRC server / channel that will help me?
[08:13] <kepler> sudo amdcccle
[08:13] <kittenmittens> ?
[08:13] <genoobie> I'm downloading the lubuntu desktop install
[08:13] <kittenmittens> ctrl alt t?
[08:13] <genoobie> maybe that will fix the problem
[08:14] <Sara> xrs- you there?
[08:14] <kepler> Hanmac_, not sure then. you're using the dns name and not the IP?
[08:14] <linocisco> I want network monitoring tool like PRTG but should be free of charge and full version
[08:14] <xrs> sara: im installing boot repair so i can walk you through it. be warned my system is probably the slowest in this room
[08:14] <kepler> kittenmittens, whatever opens it. im on kubuntu, so i dont know the gnome/unity shortcuts
[08:14] <Sara> ok thanks xrs
[08:15] <kittenmittens> a whole bunch of error:bad request messages in therminal
[08:15] <shortstraw8_> Sara,  What steps did you do?
[08:15] <kittenmittens> then the amd catalyst ppopped up
[08:15] <Sara> just installed bootrepair
[08:15] <Sara> now waiting for the rest
[08:15] <kepler> do you have multiple monitors?
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> adamshumpisxxx mate is default on mint right?
[08:15] <Ben64> Sara: click "recommended repair"
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> adamshumpisxxx: ask there, but don't mention you're running ubuntu
[08:16] <adamshumpisxxx> I'm not sure. I don't run Mint or have ever been interested in it.
[08:16] <adamshumpisxxx> Ah, OK. Thanks. Would you be able to link me?
[08:16] <shortstraw8_> Sara,  If you follow the rest of the steps on the ubuntu help it works fine.
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> ##mint
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> wait thats wrong
[08:16] <Sara> I have done that it recovered my win 7. you sure i need to use that again?
[08:16] <kittenmittens> what do i do now
[08:16] <kepler> kittenmittens, do you have multiple monitors?
[08:17] <adamshumpisxxx> Thanks aeon-ltd.
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> adamshumpisxxx: #linuxmint
[08:17] <Sara> I really don't like to remove my win again
[08:17] <adamshumpisxxx> Thanks...leaving now to ask.
[08:18] <xrs> you re-installed widows? are you sure win7 didnt erase your ubuntu?
[08:18] <kittenmittens> no it thought i had no monitors so i changed that now im rebooting
[08:18] <kepler> that's weird
[08:18] <Sara> I recovered mbr but not grub now I cannot install grub
[08:19] <kittenmittens> nope.. blank again
[08:19] <Ben64> Sara: Click "Recommended Repair" and do whatever it says
[08:19] <kepler> can you right click like last time?
[08:19] <Super_Dog> hey peeps.  just had a running out of disk space error.  couldn't figure out.  unmounted big server mount in fstab and all is well now.  could it be there are so many file on the mount that it is indexing them or something on my local disk....?
[08:19] <kittenmittens> ya]\
[08:19] <kepler> pop open that amdcccle again
[08:19] <Ben64> kittenmittens: do you like unity?
[08:20] <kittenmittens> ya
[08:20] <xrs> your hardware may be good, but are you sure its compatible?
[08:20] <kepler> im not sure what it is doing, but unity doesn't like it.
[08:20] <Ben64> kittenmittens: because you could use Unity 2D in 12.04
[08:20] <kittenmittens> mmh
[08:20] <Ben64> 12.10 got rid of the 2D version
[08:21] <bencc> can I install debian packages on ubuntu? which debian version to use for which ubuntu version?
[08:21] <Super_Dog> Vmware gave me a warning about trying to upgrade 12.04 to the 12.10 in my VM...
[08:21] <kittenmittens> it ndid my settings
[08:21] <kittenmittens> it wont save my option to have a monitor..
[08:22] <kepler> did you do sudo amdcccle ?
[08:22] <Super_Dog> *.deb files - double click and let software center or gdebi install...
[08:22] <xrs> ubuntu is debian, just tweaked. you can install .deb files with ubuntu software center
[08:22] <Aladeen> hello
[08:22] <kepler> i do sudo -i, too used to being root. forget to sudo all the time
[08:22] <Ben64> xrs, bencc: that is very much not recommended
[08:23] <xrs> k. i've personally never had a problem EVER
[08:23] <bencc> Ben64:  here it says that I can use the debian selinux packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[08:23] <xrs> but thats just me
[08:23] <kittenmittens> now what
[08:23] <Ben64> its not good to packages for different distros
[08:23] <kepler> hit display manager
[08:23] <xrs> aww then whats alien for?  :P
[08:23] <kepler> what is your resolution and desktop area?
[08:23] <kittenmittens> sudo amdcccle again?
[08:23] <kepler> yeah
[08:23] <kepler> it should be in there
[08:23] <kittenmittens> 1920 1080
[08:24] <Super_Dog> Anybody here using their ubuntu in VMware 9.X?
[08:24] <kepler> if you put your mouse on the left side to pull up the unity bar or whatever, does it just not show up?
[08:25] <kittenmittens> no
[08:25] <kittenmittens> it wont save my settings
[08:25] <kittenmittens> getting lots of errors in the terminal from amdcccle
[08:26] <kepler> can you use paste.ubuntu.com and throw some in there?
[08:27] <Aladeen> someone have information about AladeeNUX ?
[08:28] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/u3UBC6JV
[08:28] <kunji> kittenmittens: I have no idea if it is related or not, but isn't amdccle graphical, so you should be using gksudo not sudo.
[08:29] <xrs> i havent gotten amd drivers working since 12.10
[08:29] <kepler> i dont think those are critical. just x whining
[08:30] <kepler> kittenmittens, on 12.10, right?
[08:30] <kittenmittens> ye)ah
[08:30] <kittenmittens> no errors this time
[08:30] <kepler> what is the output of fglrxinfo ?
[08:31] <chamoda> test
[08:31] <kepler> passed
[08:31] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/s01pfVyn <this is what happened after i saved my settings though
[08:32] <kepler> well at least it was a little considerate: [xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
[08:32] <kunji> kepler: just curious, what's the expected output for that on a good system (i.e. things working normally)?  I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589050/
[08:32] <kepler> that looks like mine
[08:33] <kepler> i imagine if it doesn't work, it won't have display info/driver info there
[08:33] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/bprTsBjN
[08:33] <kittenmittens> brb dinner
[08:33] <kepler> like that ^^
[08:34] <kunji> kepler: Hmm, well, I guess that's good then, I think my system is working fine.
[08:34] <litropy> So, I have a spare box. It's not great - it's got a 1.2 gHz processor. I already have a server. Already have a gaming comp (wouldn't be good for it anyway). I'm looking for ideas as to what to do with it.
[08:34] <kunji> litropy: super powered router?
[08:34] <kepler> haha, i think mine is too. hasn't done anything i didn't want it to yet.
[08:34] <kepler> litropy, www.pfsense.org
[08:35] <xrs> ^^
[08:35] <xrs> whatever happened to smoothwall?
[08:35] <kunji> kepler: Mine does seem a little slow, but I am running 3 monitors on an A10.. so I think that would be expected.
[08:35] <xrs> sorry rong room
[08:35] <litropy> kunji, what would it run? you're talking about using the wifi card? What advantages would it provide over my DIR-655?
[08:36] <kunji> litropy: No idea, I'm not familiar with a DIR-655 :P
[08:36] <litropy> kunji, it's jsut a nice home router https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dlink.com%2Fproducts%2F%3Fpid%3D530&ei=hdsIUezYLubl0gHZxYG4Aw&usg=AFQjCNGBp5FopgPMO8an6BOHVAVEVEN51A&sig2=dKpqwMoIeemRW-2Qc201QA&bvm=bv.41642243,d.dmQ
[08:36] <litropy> whoops
[08:36] <litropy> http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/routers/dir-655-wireless-n-gigabit-router
[08:37] <litropy> kepler, seems like you have the same idea as kunji
[08:37] <xrs> you would get better control over the firewall and its policies, and reduce network traffix by using it as a proxy
[08:37] <xrs> you could also turn that box into a snort based intrusion detection system
[08:38] <kepler> litropy, i picked up http://goo.gl/DXJnB and run pfsense on it, disabled dhcp on my wireless router to make it an AP
[08:38] <kunji> litropy: Yeah, he was linking one way to do it.  Hmm, your own VPN would be one extra at least.
[08:38] <xrs> if you have a lot of computers, you could turn it into a proxy /  update server
[08:38] <kepler> litropy, advantage = more fun/learn?
[08:38] <kepler> i do have ipsec setup, so i vpn in from my phone and have full access to my network
[08:39] <kunji> kepler: That looks like a nice little system, yeah, it's nice being able to access my UPnP server from anywhere ^_^
[08:40] <kepler> small, quiet, and more than enough to serve me internet for the next 10 years or whatever
[08:40] <litropy> xrs, there's nothing wrond with running pfsense alongside snort on the same box, right?
[08:40] <kunji> Unfortunately I don't have the bandwidth up to stream my 1080p video though.
[08:40] <kepler> unless google fiber comes to me and they go over 1gbps, that'll hold me over
[08:40] <zayantay> hey guys
[08:40] <kunji> litropy: Yeah, that's fine
[08:40] <kepler> litropy, you can install snort as a package in pfsense
[08:41] <zayantay> helloo?
[08:41] <xrs> i've never done it but it would be better to have them seperated. checks and balences n whatnot
[08:41] <hillary_> I install eclipse via ubuntu software center but when i start i get " An error has occurred. See the log file
[08:41] <hillary_> /usr/lib/eclipse/configuration/1359535247587.log."
[08:41] <litropy> sweet, kepler
[08:41] <zayantay> any body here
[08:41] <kunji> !ask | zayantay
[08:41] <hillary_> i had purge the eclipse juno i install by hand
[08:41] <hillary_> could it be there are some remains?
[08:42] <zayantay> where can i find help for penetration testing. please tell me a channel or ?
[08:42] <kunji> Hmm, not sure if that's exactly what I wanted the bot to say... I keep forgetting the calls, was there a more appropriate one?
[08:42] <hillary_> how can i get rid of them?
[08:42] <xrs> #backtrack
[08:42] <xrs> @ zayantay
[08:42] <zayantay> thanks but is there a channel for backbox ?
[08:42] <xrs> theres like 15 security rooms in freenode
[08:43] <Hanmac_> kepler i found the cupit ... its the VM (the server) when the VM is down, FF says cant find "xyz.local" but when the VM is up, it says cant find "abc.local" ... i removed everything from the hosts, the vhost is disabled too, i tryed all methods for dns-cleaning but it does still happening :(
[08:43] <zayantay> ok thanks ill check that out :)
[08:43] <kunji> zayantay: Probably... but you want to do pentesting when you can't even find that yourself?  .... script kiddies....
[08:43] <xrs> knowledge is power...
[08:43] <zayantay> sry man
[08:43] <xrs> just so long as ur pen testing your own equipment
[08:44] <zayantay> im new to linux
[08:44] <zayantay> in a way
[08:44] <zayantay> i tried mint for a while though
[08:44] <xrs> im new to linux n ive been using it since the 90s  :P
[08:44] <zayantay> cool
[08:44] <kepler> Hanmac_, i think im not understanding the whole problem. you have a vm host that has two VMs on it that only are accessible while the other is down?
[08:45] <kunji> xrs: That's why I don't like pointing people places for pen testing... it's usually not their own equipment, 9 times out of 10 it's someone looking to break wireless passwords to get free wifi -_-
[08:45] <hillary_> ubuntu 12.04
[08:46] <Hanmac_> kepler its one VM with two vhosts ... (now only one active vhost) ... and i act access this vhost because it try to redirect to an non-existing vhost
[08:46] <kurisutian> Hi there! Can anyone help me getting convirt to work? I wanted to set up a web managed kvm server but somehow convirt won't work. Packages are installed but after that it refuses to work....
[08:47] <kepler> Hamled, i'm not sure :/ sorry
[08:47] <litropy> xrs, kunji, zayantay, Ya. And in that case, it's worth mentioning that doing so is a felony in the US.
[08:47] <litropy> US at least ...
[08:48] <xrs> Yeah just ask Aaron Swartz
[08:48] <litropy> Not to be *that guy*
[08:48] <kittenmittens> back
[08:48] <hillary_> any help?
[08:49] <kepler> kittenmittens, that last paste shows that the driver isn't working for whatever reason
[08:49] <kittenmittens> so what should i do
[08:49] <genoobie> paly
[08:49] <genoobie> okay
[08:49] <kepler> kittenmittens, do " sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx " to get rid of the driver
[08:49] <kunji> litropy: indeed
[08:49] <kepler> hopefully it boots up like it did
[08:49] <genoobie>  I mean I am done with *nix on  this older machine
[08:49] <apish> I know that I use "rsync -avz -e ssh /home/ramesh/ ramesh@192.168.200.10:/backup/ramesh/" in order to sync local folder to remote folder.. but what if i want to sync remote folder to local?
[08:49] <genoobie> xp runs fine
[08:49] <genoobie> done
[08:50] <genoobie> nite all
[08:50] <FloodBot1> genoobie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <kittenmittens> ook :) rebooting
[08:51] <litropy> apish, ssh to the remote and then rsync?
[08:52] <kepler> kittenmittens, after you boot back up, get a terminal again and try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-drivers-fglrx
[08:54] <xrs> well that explains why my video never worked after 12.10... i hate amd
[08:55] <kepler> im an intel/nvidia guy myself, but have to use work provided hardware at work, with intel/ati
[08:57] <xrs> wow boot-repair is still installing.... using this computer is like running a dumb terminal over 56k
[09:00] <kittenmittens> hm..
[09:02] <kepler> any luck?
[09:06] <kittenmittens> um.. i got an error, let me just quickly do the dishes
[09:06] <nastro82_86C4> Ciau :D
[09:07] <cfhowlett> kittenmittens, sudo apt-clean dishes -f
[09:08] <gnomefreak> dishes?
[09:08] <kepler> reminds me of: http://xkcd.com/149/
[09:09] <xrs> lmao
[09:09] <cfhowlett> kepler, that was my first exposure to linux command around the time I first tried ubuntu...
[09:09] <gnomefreak> lol i like that
[09:10] <fedor> is there in ubuntu12 utility for taking photos via webcam?
[09:10] <cfhowlett> fedor, cheese and guvcview
[09:10] <fedor> thanx
[09:10] <cfhowlett> no problem
[09:20] <kittenmittens> back
[09:21] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/sXcAPj35
[09:23] <bobweaver> Unknown Paste ID!
[09:23] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/sXcAPj3S
[09:23] <kittenmittens> my bad
[09:25] <kittenmittens> googling it only found me someone elses paistbin with the same thing lol
[09:26] <kittenmittens> its like im doomed to never have ubuntu
[09:28] <kittenmittens> whys it so quiet now
[09:28] <spider_> hello
[09:28] <kittenmittens> hello
[09:29] <spider_> whats up bro my name is spider
[09:29] <kittenmittens> im no bro >_>
[09:30] <kittenmittens> my name is bianca
[09:30] <kittenmittens> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fP4emqw7O4
[09:31] <kittenmittens> #ubuntuofftopic
[09:33] <kittenmittens> any ubuntu nerds here who are formiliar with ati graphics
[09:33] <litropy> I wish. What are you trying to do again?
[09:33] <arunkumar413> what happens to the hard link file if the original file is moved to a different location
[09:33] <kittenmittens> install graphics drivers
[09:34] <kepler> sorry, was off doing work (dozed off)
[09:34] <litropy> kittenmittens, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:34] <kittenmittens> JEEEEZ
[09:34] <kittenmittens> pastebin.com/sXcAPj3S
[09:35] <litropy> .run? Never seen that before.
[09:35] <litropy> kittenmittens, check out my link
[09:35] <kepler> it is just a script to do the installs
[09:36] <kittenmittens> thats what the website says to do, ill try yours
[09:36] <kepler> looks like that one is the same as the fglrx we tried before, but adding using sudo amdconfig --initial
[09:36] <kepler> which may be what fixes it
[09:36] <kepler> we have a weird setup out here, so i did my own xorg.conf
[09:37] <fefrerf> Hi
[09:37] <kepler> the second part is what you were just doing, with the .run
[09:39] <Super_Dog> Does mounting large external servers with lots of files take up resources locally on Ubuntu desktop?  I notice larger disk usage on my main Ubuntu drive when I fstab mount my network drives...
[09:39] <jnhghy> Hi, I have some issues with document viewer and pdf printing: when I view some pdf they look ok but in printing and in print preview the colors are inverted. any help is appriciated
[09:40] <fefrerf> Hi
[09:40] <fefrerf> Anyone have ubuntu for androids?
[09:41] <Super_Dog> There's supposed to be an Ubuntu phone coming out.  Might have to get one of those..
[09:41] <brontosaurusrex> what would i use from cli for rtf to utf8 txt conversion?
[09:42] <amoma> brontosaurusrex, $ pyton
[09:42] <somsip> !info iconv | brontosaurusrex
[09:42] <somsip> brontosaurusrex: man iconv and see if it helps
[09:43] <brontosaurusrex> isnt iconv only for charset conversions?
[09:43] <kittenmittens> after all that do i continue to step 3 or am i done then?
[09:43] <llutz> brontosaurusrex: "iconv - Convert encoding of given files from one encoding to another"
[09:44] <kittenmittens> nevermind -_-
[09:44] <kittenmittens> same issue, no unity or anything
[09:46] <fefrerf> hello
[09:46] <NetFlamBorg> Hi fefrerf
[09:46] <fefrerf> :-)
[09:47] <NegressCounty> I wish I could shit into somebody's mouth
[09:51] <fefrerf> What is SliTaz?
[09:51] <NetFlamBorg> SliTaz GNU/Linux is a Micro-Linux Distribution created by Christophe Lincoln and is now maintained by several contributors.
[09:51] <bilel> Hi, a cron sent me mails because a cron task failed, but now each time I connect with ssh, I got a message saying "you have new mails" , and then I do "cat /var/mail/username" and I can see it's the same old mail, how can I flag it as read?
[09:52] <llutz> bilel: "mail" "1" "d"
[09:52] <somsip> bilel: run 'mail'
[09:52] <fefrerf> Thx NetFlamBorg
[09:52] <NetFlamBorg> fefrerf Convert encoding of given files from one
[09:53] <fefrerf> I like my Wifi!
[09:54] <fefrerf> My wifi is very goooood!
[09:54] <fefrerf> wifi?
[09:55] <AppleJuice> Yeah, do you have a wifi? I have two.
[09:55] <fefrerf> :-)
[09:55] <NetFlamBorg> For help with Wifi, please read: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-easy first. If that doesn't work then read: http://doc.slitaz.org/en:guides:wifi-hard
[09:56] <kepler> kittenmittens, i think that card just isn't well supported by their driver :/
[09:56] <kittenmittens> :(
[09:57] <kittenmittens> so no linux?
[09:57] <kepler> :/
[09:57] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg thx! But its a joke!
[09:57] <NetFlamBorg> Goooood!
[09:58] <bilel> somsip: each time I run "mail" it tells me I have new message
[09:59] <kepler> kittenmittens, try step 3 -- installing upstream drivers directly from AMD's website ?
[09:59] <kittenmittens> ill do that next
[09:59] <bilel> anyway I'll try to google linux mail in order to see how I should read them properly instead of "cat /var/mail/username"
[09:59] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg who are you?
[09:59] <NetFlamBorg> Might have to get one of those
[09:59] <NetFlamBorg> Androids?
[09:59] <llutz> bilel: "mail" "1" "d"
[09:59] <somsip> bilel: read tge message, and delete it. Like llutz said
[10:00] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg are you a weirdo?
[10:00] <NetFlamBorg> SliTaz?
[10:00] <kepler> bilel, sudo apt-get install alpine
[10:00] <fefrerf> wtf?
[10:01] <llutz> kepler: there is no need to install additional software if "mail" command is present just to remove a system-mail
[10:01] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg wtf!
[10:01] <NetFlamBorg> Goooood!
[10:01] <kepler> but but but pine :(
[10:01] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg fuck off!
[10:02] <somsip> !language | fefrerf
[10:02] <fefrerf> ok ok
[10:02] <bilel> llutz: ok it seems I can delete them one by one with your commands, but is it possible to clear everything? there are some old unread mails too
[10:02] <NetFlamBorg> Help is appriciated
[10:03] <llutz> bilel: "d :o"
[10:03] <fefrerf> i like trains
[10:04] <NetFlamBorg> Kittenmittens, I think that card just isn't well supported by their driver :/
[10:04] <somsip> !ot | fefrerf
[10:04] <kittenmittens> would aa driver fromt his site be better? http://phoronix.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?43-Open-Source-AMD-Linux
[10:04] <fefrerf> ok ok
[10:04] <bilel> llutz: thanks it worked!
[10:04] <NetFlamBorg> Wifi!
[10:04] <kepler> kittenmittens, i would use the amd sanctioned one
[10:05] <fefrerf> NetFlamBorg you are really helpful :-)
[10:05] <kittenmittens> what do you mean?
[10:05] <NetFlamBorg> Who are you a weirdo?
[10:05] <kepler> download it from AMD's site
[10:06] <fefrerf> you are a weirdo netflamborg
[10:06] <NetFlamBorg> Who are you a weirdo?
[10:06] <daniel_mum> a
[10:06] <fefrerf> stop netflamborg
[10:06] <NetFlamBorg> fefrerf: mail 1 d
[10:07] <fefrerf> NetFlamborg, send me mail to testborg@gmail.com!
[10:07] <llutz> !ot | fefrerf NetFlamBorg stop your nonsense here please
[10:07] <NetFlamBorg> Encoding to another
[10:07] <NetFlamBorg> There is no need to install additional software if mail command
[10:08] <jnhghy> Hi, I have some issues with document viewer and pdf printing: when I view some pdf they look ok but in printing and in print preview the colors are inverted. any help is appriciated
[10:08] <NetFlamBorg> Who are you a weirdo jnhghy
[10:08] <jnhghy> how*
[10:10] <MonkeyDust> NetFlamBorg  is a bot
[10:10] <NetFlamBorg> Help is appriciated
[10:11] <fefrerf> MonkeyDust? NetFlamBorg is a bot?
[10:11] <NetFlamBorg> Help is appriciated
[10:12] <llutz> !ops | NetFlamBorg sort of bot, spam, junk, troll
[10:12] <gnomefreak> are we sure he is a bot?
[10:12] <NetFlamBorg> Thx! But its a joke
[10:12] <gnomefreak> llutz: im here already
[10:12] <jpds> NetFlamBorg: Hello.
[10:12] <NetFlamBorg> Hi jpds
[10:12] <gnomefreak> not a bot good
[10:12] <NetFlamBorg> A bot?
[10:12] <Tm_T> NetFlamBorg: please don't use this channel for your personal amusement, see channel topic
[10:13] <NetFlamBorg> Tm_T: please don't use this channel for your personal amusement, see
[10:13] <gnomefreak> NetFlamBorg: join #ubuntu-offtopic for non support convo
[10:13] <gnomefreak> damnit
[10:13] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:13] <elky> bots not allowed in their either, really
[10:13] <litropy> Awe - just as I was typing up the turing test.
[10:13] <elky> there*
[10:14] <gnomefreak> he wasnt a bot afaict
[10:14] <dr_willis> just  a lame troll?
[10:14] <llutz> gnomefreak: then is was a troll, spammer, idiot, whatever,  spamming this channel
[10:14] <elky> gnomefreak, parroting people isn't really a down thing in -ot either :P
[10:14] <Tm_T> no point discussing this here
[10:14] <gnomefreak> yep thats the feeling i got
[10:14] <gnomefreak> elky: true but it is better than in here
[10:14] <anadia> Need help with Huawei usb modem, please
[10:16] <anadia> Need help with Huawei E220 usb modem, please
[10:16] <dr_willis> that a 3g modem? dialup modem? or what exactly
[10:16] <Tm_T> anadia: please elaborate what help you do need (:
[10:18] <anadia> dr_willis, Tm_T its a 3g modem. I would like to use it to connect the internet
[10:18] <litropy> anadia, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei/E220
[10:18] <dr_willis> ;) i cant really think of any other use for them... so.. you plug it in.. you go to network manager icon at the top right...
[10:19] <litropy> anadia, mind you that's a dialup howto
[10:19] <xkernel> is there a channel for Ubuntu dev support?
[10:19] <litropy> xkernel, try #ubuntu+1
[10:20] <dr_willis> i thibk theres #ubuntu-motu
[10:20] <anadia> dr_willis I am on Linux Lite. I know this is Ubuntu channel. But Linux Lite is using Ubuntu 12.04
[10:20] <Tm_T> anadia: that's not Ubuntu
[10:20] <dr_willis> anadia:  ubuntu ahs a nice network manager tool.... look for it i guess...
[10:20] <xkernel> litropy, not the beta support I mean for code development
[10:20] <anadia> ok, then sorry i bothered you guys
[10:21] <litropy> anadia, what kernel are you using?
[10:21] <spacecowboy29> Hey all ! Is this is the right place to ask questions about bazaar or do I go to #ubuntu-motu ?
[10:22] <mablae> Hi there
[10:22] <mablae> I am getting strange typing errors in Xmind
[10:22] <mablae> Typing "a" in a node selects all Text... ? !
[10:22] <mablae> Very strange...
[10:23] <mablae> No hotkeys are activated... ?!
[10:23] <mablae> Just NUM
[10:23] <anadia> litropy 3.2.0-32
[10:23] <TimmyTT> I've got a problem with my floppy..
[10:23] <litropy> E220 is supported natively by Linux Kernel 2.6.20-rc2 or higher. It should just ... work.
[10:24] <hillary_> eclipse cannot start in my ubuntu 12.04. I get an error "An error has occurred. See the log file
[10:24] <hillary_> /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359541343404.log."
[10:24] <vileman_0x43> awesome is so cool
[10:24] <litropy> hillary_, we can't see the logs located locally on your computer.
[10:24] <TimmyTT> The wife says its too....floppy.
[10:25] <hillary_> litropy,  how do i go about then to solve it please
[10:25] <mablae> WTF floppy?
[10:26] <mablae> hillary_, pastie the log to paste.org for a start
[10:26] <litropy> hillary_ $cat /home/hillary/.eclipse/org.eclipse.platform_3.7.0_155965261/configuration/1359541343404.log
[10:26] <abowas> What¨s wrong with these commands? I want them to run after eachother "mkdir /home/newuser/ ; mkdir .ssh"
[10:27] <litropy> hillary_, then copy the output and paste it to https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpaste.ubuntu.com%2F&ei=OfUIUe_3Hafy0QG3m4HIBg&usg=AFQjCNFz-jtIul_Dxhji62ThvMzL6pcvUg&sig2=RVmAtJbd6Dv8ZgcFZ2q6qQ&bvm=bv.41642243,d.dmQ
[10:27] <litropy> whoops
[10:27] <litropy> hillary_ then paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:28] <spacecowboy29> A question, I have an error in bazaar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589248/,  Corkscrew is referred as Corksrew, so I'm guessing a typo, but not sure where to modify it...
[10:30] <bartzy> Hey
[10:30] <bartzy> if I use 12.10 , and PHP version there is X for example
[10:30] <bartzy> for example 5.4.6
[10:30] <bartzy> and then PHP releases PHP 5.5
[10:30] <bartzy> the repo will update to php 5.5 ?
[10:30] <dr_willis> !latest
[10:30] <bartzy> Or will stay at 5.4.6 forever, with just security patches (like debian) ?
[10:30] <dr_willis> bartzy:  possible, but not likely
[10:31] <bartzy> So exactly like debian stable /
[10:31] <bartzy> Same policy give or take ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> theres backports and ppas if yoiu need newer
[10:31] <bartzy> Cool.
[10:31] <bartzy> And this is the same for all ubuntu releases ?
[10:31] <bartzy> 12.04, 12.10, 13.04 ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> yes
[10:31] <bartzy> Or there is a "Testing" version where the packages update , like debian wheezy/sid ?
[10:31] <dr_willis> bartzy:  no 'testing'
[10:32] <Ray> Hello, im trying to install TrueCombat Elite on ubuntu 12.04, when i extract/install it from Term, it is looking for Wolfenstein, is wolfenstein needed..???
[10:32] <bobweaver> bartzy,  not really there are pure "Ubuntu developers"  that both do Ubuntu patchs and also debian or just Ubuntu thus sometimes thing make it into Ubuntu stuff but that is not looked up to that much
[10:32] <bobweaver> bartzy,  what is stoping you from installing "what you want to use ? "
[10:32] <bartzy> dr_willis: So how packages getting upgraded in major versions ? i.e. php5.4 to php 5.5 ? Just in new releases, i.e. 13.04 to 13.10 ?
[10:32] <shomon> where can I get help with soap web services? sorry if that's OT here...
[10:32] <dr_willis> bartzy:  you got it.
[10:33] <litropy> bobweaver, I think he's trying to get a grasp of how Ubuntu manages their packages.
[10:33] <bobweaver> ahh
[10:33] <dr_willis> every 6 mo  stuff gets updated.. in most cases
[10:33] <alimj> Sorry if this is a dumb but however I could change GIMP interface language?
[10:33] <bobweaver> unless there is a security patch or something big is needed. correct
[10:33] <dr_willis> but even then - it may not be the absolute latest
[10:33] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  about 6 months behind ?
[10:34] <alimj> I mean How could I change GIMP interface language?
[10:34] <dr_willis> i never worry about the vversions. ;)
[10:34] <litropy> dr_willis, so packages will never get upgradd to newer versions if I keep the same Ubunu release?
[10:34] <litropy> upgraded*
[10:34] <dr_willis> !latest
[10:34] <blunted> Newest upstart produces odd error with HDD devices, what's the proper way of reporting it?
[10:34] <litropy> Sorry for the typos peeps - I'm tired.
[10:34] <Ray> Hello, im trying to install TrueCombat Elite on ubuntu 12.04, when i extract/install it from Term, it is looking for Wolfenstein, is wolfenstein needed..???
[10:34] <bobweaver> alimj,  you can change the language for all programs under gnome-control-center -> language's
[10:35] <dr_willis> normally only security updates get  updated topackage.. some times secirity fixs get ported back to older packages
[10:35] <Ben64> Ray: doesn't seem like an ubuntu issue, ask the truecombat people?
[10:35] <litropy> dr_willis, thx
[10:35] <bartzy> dr_willis: So what is the difference between the main repository, and the security repository ?
[10:35] <Ray> Ben64 : Probably
[10:35] <litropy> Alrighty. Goodnight, peeps.
[10:36] <dr_willis> bartzy:  no idea. i rarely worry about such things
[10:36] <bartzy> ok, thanks. Anyone knows why there is a security repo and a main repo ?
[10:37] <bobweaver> bartzy,  main is the "main"  security is push from CVT's
[10:37] <bobweaver> like if there is a report bartzy  of some CVE then fixs can go to that also kernel fixs and stuff like that
[10:38] <bobweaver> kinda
[10:38] <bobweaver> bartzy if you like things like that Today is part of Ubuntu Developers week in #ubuntu-classroom
[10:40] <MoL0ToV> there are a guide to make a ubuntu network with shared net fs and centralized user auth on login?
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> if there are one, i put in a basket windows network.
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> 200 pc in a school
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> with win xp/7
[10:41] <blunted> Main upstart pushed back and broke no initramfs loads, who do I tell since its not Ubuntu kernel config?
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> i want to place ubuntu with centralized user auth
[10:41] <MoL0ToV> and login
[10:43] <SAngeli> I need help with permissions. I run ubuntu server. /var/www has this security "drwxr-xr-x  2 root root". I need with another username (being allowed to do so) to be able to wrx to this path (-R). what should I do? I wish not to alter native permissions. Can this new username be like root? if so how to? or can I add this user to the root group?
[10:43] <Ben64> SAngeli: you should look into vhosts
[10:44] <dr_willis> SAngeli:  i think you add them to the www group.. but i  alwo thought www should be owned by the  www group.   but i am only rembering what otheers have said iin here in the past
[10:48] <GoodHand_> Hi
[10:48] <SAngeli> ok
[10:48] <SAngeli> dr_willis, I see. Let me see
[10:48] <GoodHand_> Hi GeniusBrain
[10:49] <GoodHand_> I have problem with add app to left bar! (sublime text 2)
[10:49] <SAngeli> dr_willis, what I need is to create a SAMBA share to /var/www and be able to rwx from another PC.
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> GoodHand_: what is the issue?
[10:50] <GoodHand_> How to do it!
[10:50] <SAngeli> dr_willis, also the gruup name is root root as listed above.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> GoodHand_: do you have the app installed?
[10:51] <dr_willis> root.root for owning www seems odd..  but i dont manage web servers ;)
[10:51] <Ben64> SAngeli: sounds very insecure. you should really look into a better system. ssh/scp/rsync and vhosts
[10:51] <GeniusBrain> Ben64
[10:51] <GoodHand_> ActionParsnip: yeah
[10:51] <GeniusBrain> GoodHand_: do you have the app installed?
[10:52] <SAngeli> Ben64, is local to my network and is for development only. I need to see this as a file folder inside my PC. I do not wish to ftp or similar
[10:52] <SAngeli> moreover it is only on the /www  so not much security issue.
[10:52] <SAngeli> this is only for the web server for developing websites locally
[10:52] <dr_willis> i bet samba will screw with ownership anbd permissions greatly... while  ssh/scp/stp wont...
[10:52] <GoodHand_> GeniusBrain: yeeeeah
[10:52] <GeniusBrain> GoodHand_: what is the issue?
[10:53] <GoodHand_> GeniusBrain: How to add app in python to left bar
[10:53] <GeniusBrain> Need to see this as a file folder inside my PC
[10:53] <Ben64> by PC you mean windows?
[10:53] <hillary_> Hello, when i run update i get'
[10:58] <SAngeli> Ben yes
[10:58] <SAngeli> Ben64, Yes, Windows 7
[10:58] <GoodHand_> GeniusBrain: Bye!
[10:58] <GeniusBrain> GoodHand_: do you have the app installed?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> GoodHand_: run the app, when it shows in the Unity launcher, right click it and select to lock it.
[10:59] <GeniusBrain> Problem with add app in python to left bar
[10:59] <Ben64> you could set /var/www to 777 and/or change owner, then have it shared with samba with no permissions
[10:59] <GeniusBrain> Moreover it is only on the /www so not much security issue
[11:00] <raven_> ive got an issue.. i have a laptop and pc, and i need to install windows on my pc but it has no dvd drive, and my usb is only 2 gigs.. is it possible to use a harddrive as like a usb?
[11:00] <Ben64> GeniusBrain: why do you keep repeating what people say
[11:00] <GeniusBrain> Mean windows?
[11:00] <GeniusBrain> Ben64: do you keep repeating what people say
[11:00] <Ben64> GeniusBrain: stop
[11:00] <GeniusBrain> Ben64: yeah
[11:01] <SAngeli> Ben64, no change owner. I could change group but is there a way I can add a user to root group? I ask this because if I am correct when I list /var/www I get drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  which tells me that the owner is "root" but also that the group is "root". Am I right?
[11:01] <Ben64> SAngeli: why not change owner?
[11:01] <fig> use Wubi, you can install Ubuntu with no DVD over your Windows installation
[11:01] <SAngeli> Ben64, because I do not know if this would have any impact on Apache running. Also, I have a differne case too. So
[11:02] <lombardo> SAngeli: change group doing this: chown sangeli.users /var/www/file
[11:02] <Ben64> SAngeli: it wouldn't affect apache
[11:02] <SAngeli> I wish to know if I can add sangeli to root group or similar
[11:02] <SAngeli> can I do so?
[11:02] <Ben64> you cannot
[11:02] <GeniusBrain> SAngeli: do you have the app installed?
[11:02] <SAngeli> So, my last resort is to access the share as root
[11:02] <SAngeli> I can do so, right?
[11:02] <Ben64> no
[11:02] <GeniusBrain> You can install Ubuntu with no DVD over your Windows installation
[11:03] <SAngeli> :-(
[11:03] <Ben64> i've already given you a solution
[11:03] <GeniusBrain> Possible to use a harddrive as like
[11:03] <lombardo> SAngeli: root group is wheel... if you want to add sangeli to wheel group, i think you need to do: usermod -g wheel sangeli
[11:03] <SAngeli> Ben64, here is another example: I wish to rwx on /var/log. I cannot go around the system and start changing ownership like I wish.
[11:04] <fig> The nice thing about using Wubi is you can access your Windows files as if they're in just another file
[11:04] <SAngeli> lombardo, thanks
[11:04] <SAngeli> I will try
[11:04] <fig> folder*
[11:04] <SAngeli> lombardo, it does not exist as group
[11:05] <Ben64> SAngeli: i've already given you a solution....
[11:05] <GeniusBrain> Like a usb?
[11:05] <SAngeli> Ben64, Ok, I get it.
[11:05] <lombardo> SAngeli: you sure?  look in /etc/groups .. is no wheel?
[11:05] <Ben64> lombardo: not on ubuntu/debian
[11:05] <GeniusBrain> Does not exist as group
[11:05] <lombardo> SAngeli: cat /etc/group
[11:05] <SAngeli> lombardo, I was unable to find it.
[11:05] <lombardo> oh i see
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> fig: you can do that in a regular install
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> Shows in the Unity launcher, right?
[11:06] <SAngeli> lombardo, cat /etc/group | grep wheel
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> fig: accessing windows partitions isn't unique to wubi installs
[11:06] <hillary_> Hello, when i run update i get " http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589308/" any where i have messed my system?
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> SAngeli wheel sangeli
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> Hi hillary_
[11:06] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: are you an op?
[11:06] <hillary_> hi
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: i'm not, just a member
[11:06] <fig> I know, but it's really fast
[11:06] <lombardo> SAngeli: well then add your user to root group
[11:06] <GeniusBrain> I can do so, right click it and select to lock
[11:06] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: darn, this bot is annoying, and nobody is here
[11:07] <GeniusBrain> Pc, and I need to see this as a file folder inside my PC
[11:07] <SAngeli> lombardo, which is the root group? is it admin?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: have you used:  !ops
[11:07] <hillary_> GeniusBrain,  hi
[11:07] <lombardo> SAngeli: root group is also called root
[11:07] <Ben64> i'm in #ubuntu-ops
[11:07] <GeniusBrain> hillary_: root group or similar
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> fig: what is fast?
[11:07] <hillary_> GeniusBrain, similar
[11:07] <GeniusBrain> hillary_: you sure? look in /etc/groups
[11:07] <fig> using Wubi rather than checking another harddrive partition
[11:08] <Ben64> hillary_: ignore GeniusBrain
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> Ben64: How to do it!
[11:08] <BrixSat> Morning
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> fig: its not really fast, a true install will be faster as it doesn't get affected by the shortcomings in NTFS
[11:08] <fig> you can browse videos for instance quickly
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> Share as root
[11:08] <lombardo> GeniusBrain is just pasting other peoples lines as answers to random people
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> Me see this as a file folder inside my PC
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> fig: you can do that in a non-wubi install
[11:08] <lombardo> GeniusBrain: right?
[11:08] <hillary_> Ben64, help
[11:08] <GeniusBrain> I need to install windows on my pc but it has no dvd drive, and I need
[11:08] <Ben64> hillary_: whats your issue?
[11:08] <fig> it isyou just hate windows
[11:09] <fig> I think
[11:09] <Ben64> !ops | GeniusBrain
[11:09] <fig> because I have tried both
[11:09] <GeniusBrain> Python to left bar! sublime text 2
[11:09] <GeniusBrain> I have problem with add app to left bar! sublime text 2
[11:09] <hillary_> Ben64, when i run update i get " http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589308/" any where i have messed my system?
[11:09] <GeniusBrain> Inside my PC
[11:09] <lombardo> Ben64: he is a bot, posting random lines it sees in channel... kick it out
[11:10] <Ben64> lombardo: I would if I could
[11:10] <lombardo> !ops GeniusBrain
[11:10] <hillary_> Ben64,  you got it?
[11:10] <lombardo> !op GeniusBrain
[11:10] <lombardo> !op
[11:11] <Ben64> hillary_: well the error says it all. you have a duplicate source
[11:11] <hillary_> Ben64,  yes how can i correct it please
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> fig: no, I just understand how NTFS degrades over time, this affects the wubi disk file directly
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> fig: Journalised file systems do not degrade nearly as much so is a much better option in that sense
[11:12] <Ben64> hillary_: open the software center, go to Edit and Software Sources, and uncheck the one that is duplicate
[11:12] <phoenixsampras> hello, ubuntu is crashing in my laptop
[11:12] <GeniusBrain> Hi phoenixsampras
[11:12] <lombardo> hillary_: it says you have duplicate entries in your sources.list... i would look in that file.. it is at /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:12] <lombardo> hillary_: just comment it out if there is a duplicate there
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> fig: the ONLY good thing about Wubi imho is that the host partition is mapped automagically for you, otherwise the fact that wubi is so fragile makes it not suitable for long term use
[11:12] <GeniusBrain> I do so?
[11:12] <GeniusBrain> I have a duplicate there
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> fig: and fixing it is far from easy via liveCD (mount ntfs, loop mount wubi file etc).
[11:13] <GeniusBrain> Journalised file systems do not degrade nearly as much so is a duplicate source
[11:13] <BrixSat> how do i know if my ubuntu is hardware acelerated?
[11:14] <lombardo> !troll GeniusBrain
[11:14] <Ben64> lombardo: you gotta use a | to direct a trigger towards someone
[11:14] <Myrtti> lombardo: yes, we are aware you are alarmed about something. that's enough for now
[11:14] <Myrtti> lombardo: the ops are aware
[11:15] <GeniusBrain> We are aware
[11:15] <Firetux> hi
[11:15] <Firetux> hi RajneshSiwal1
[11:17] <RajneshSiwal1> Hi , Is there anyone to help me with Zentyal ?
[11:17] <BrixSat> how do i view if my pc is vga hardware acelerated?
[11:17] <Super_Dog> I need help with Zentyal...
[11:17] <Super_Dog> :-)
[11:17] <Ben64> BrixSat: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[11:17] <RajneshSiwal1> :)
[11:17] <RajneshSiwal1> OK. Whats your question ?
[11:17] <BrixSat> ben64 yes :)
[11:17] <Super_Dog> I'm a Zentyal retard....  but what's your question...
[11:17] <awisepilot> Hi, is any familar with Kernal Virtual Machine (KVM)?  I am having a problem connecting to a VM after I created it.
[11:18] <RajneshSiwal1> I need to migrate from OpenLDAP to Zentyal
[11:18] <RajneshSiwal1> There are some additional schemas that we have added to it
[11:18] <RajneshSiwal1> It includes samba, Password Policy and sudoers
[11:19] <Super_Dog> woww....  out of my league there.  I just got lucky and figured out how to make my little Atom server blades run some file sharing LAN server on Zentyal...
[11:19] <Super_Dog> That's about all I'm doing with Zentyal right now...
[11:19] <RajneshSiwal1> You should use it as an AD (PDC) it supports even GPOs
[11:20] <Super_Dog> what's a GPO?
[11:20] <RajneshSiwal1> Integrating both Linux and Windows Environment
[11:20] <lombardo> Super_Dog: it is GPU spelled wrong
[11:20] <RajneshSiwal1> GPO: Group Policies implementation in Windows Environment
[11:20] <RajneshSiwal1> As in Active Directory
[11:20] <Super_Dog> Did you lose the "O" somewhere?
[11:21] <Super_Dog> I see the "G" and the "P"...
[11:21] <lombardo> Group Policies Omplementation
[11:21] <awisepilot> Can anyone help with KVM?
[11:21] <Super_Dog> lombardo making me wet my pants dude...
[11:21] <musca> awisepilot: yes, in #kvm
[11:22] <awisepilot> musca, I create a successful guest with vmbuilder, but I can not connect to it.  The bridging looks right.
[11:23] <Super_Dog> honestly, I think I just got lucky setting up my Zentyal server...  The web interface and the $90 book are hairier than hell for me...
[11:23] <Super_Dog> I'm running the older version still - V 2.27....
[11:24] <RajneshSiwal1> ok
[11:24] <Super_Dog> Too scared to upgrade....  If it ain't broke - don't fix it right...
[11:24] <RajneshSiwal1> For Samba4 I created a Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WKMtFyyxGI
[11:24] <lombardo> brazilian dancers?
[11:24] <Ben64> !ot | everyone
[11:24] <Super_Dog> You really think that Samba4 in Zentyal is going to work out of the box...?
[11:24] <Super_Dog> I have my doubts on that one...
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> I have tested it for basic functionality and works finr
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> http://www.youtube.com/user/rsiwal
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> We have some more videos in Linux on it.
[11:25] <RajneshSiwal1> May be they can help you out
[11:25] <Ben64> seriously, if you would like to talk to each other about zentyal, take it somewhere else, this channel is for ubuntu support only
[11:25] <awisepilot> Muska could you help me figure this KVM guest connection problem out?
[11:25] <musca> awisepilot: bridging "looks right"?
[11:26] <Hanmac_> kepler i found the culpit and it has nothing todo with dns ... it was the stupid magento shit ... :/
[11:26] <awisepilot> yes
[11:26] <RajneshSiwal1> My mistake
[11:26] <awisepilot> I can show you my netstat -n and ifconfig files
[11:26] <Super_Dog> Zentyal is ubuntu isn't it?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> awisepilot musca wrong channel
[11:27] <musca> awisepilot: #kvm
[11:27] <awisepilot> what do you mean wrong channel
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> Super_Dog  if zentyal were the same as ubuntu, it would be called ubuntu
[11:30] <Super_Dog> OK.  -  I guess the command "lsb_release -a" must be lying to me then.  It says Ubuntu 10.04 on my Zentyal server terminal...
[11:31] <dr_willis> !zentyal
[11:31] <dr_willis> zentyl is a program not an os
[11:32] <Ben64> dr_willis: its both
[11:33] <jnhghy> does anybody know how to install adobe acrobat reader in ubuntu 12.04 64bit? I tried adding the ppa also downloading the .bin, .deb, .rpm from the adobe site all had issues. anybody has a solution that want's to share?
[11:33] <hillary_> dr_willis, hi, Kindly assist me with a command that will allow me to write into a root folder
[11:33] <ronin_1977> hi
[11:34] <Ben64> jnhghy: do you really need adobe's? ubuntu comes with a pdf reader by default
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: mark the .bin file as executable and run it using sudo
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> hillary_: do you use a GUI OS?
[11:35] <ronin_1977> i need some information about video converter in linux
[11:35] <hillary_> dr_willis,  i want to alter a file in /etc/apt/sourcelist.txt ubuntu 12.04 is my os yes
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hillary_: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sourcelist.txt
[11:35] <jnhghy> Ben64: I can't use evince because with some of my pdf's when I try to print I get inverted colors (even in print preview)
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: use terminal, lots easier
[11:36] <ronin_1977> i have ubuntu 12.10 , and download i little program called soun converter , but this program not work very well
[11:36] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: I made the .bin file executable and tried to run it but I get error message "No such file or directory"
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: then you need to change directory to where the file is held
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: you will also need to prefix the file with ./  as pwd is not in $PATH
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: so use:  sudo ./Acrobat.bin    or whatever the file name is
[11:37] <ronin_1977> soundconverter dont convert all files in the list . His stopped in the middle of task
[11:37] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: I did, then I typed only a few letters of the name of the pack and then hit "tab" and it founded the file .... so I'm giving the right command in the right place but still get the error, yes with ./ in front :)
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: try using absolute path. Eg:  sudo /home/$USER/filename.bin
[11:38] <Super_Dog> jinghy:  I installed from Medibuntu repository  quite easily...    http://www.medibuntu.org/
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: I assume you used:  chown +x /home/$USER/filename.bin    to mark executable
[11:39] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: I ended up thinking it's an issue with the program running on 64bit is this not plausible?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: possibly, i've not used acrobat reader, let me see
[11:39] <Super_Dog> Just downloaded the font package and it gave me reader, too...
[11:39] <jnhghy> ActionParsnip: thanks for the time, I'll try with absolute path.... if that won't work I'll try Super_dog solution. Thanks both...
[11:40] <Super_Dog> May not be the latest and greatest at medibuntu but it worked for me....
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> jnhghy: http://www.lorenzobettini.it/2012/11/install-adobe-reader-in-ubuntu-12-10-quantal-quetzal-64bit/
[11:42] <hillary_> ActionParsnip: Thank you my issue is solved by gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <lutik> ;ffljfdo
[11:46] <embat> wassup
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:50] <jithu> hii
[11:50] <snql> what
[11:51] <jithu> anyone know how to get gui of huawei datacard in ubuntu?
[11:51] <jithu> anyone know how to get gui of huawei datacard in ubuntu?
[11:52] <jithu> hu kunjo
[11:52] <jithu> kunji
[11:52] <mathi> hi
[11:52] <jithu> hi
[11:53] <mathi> I try to find my wireless configs
[11:53] <mathi> I opened /etc/network/interfaces
[11:53] <fenbox> hello world
[11:53] <mathi> but there I don't see any SSID, WPA password, etc.
[11:53] <mathi> where can I find the settings ?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> fenbox, greetings
[11:53] <mathi> I do have internet with wireless, but I don't know where the authentication parameters are stored
[11:54] <hillary_> i want to get rid of all the eclipse in my system then install a new. How do i go a bout
[11:54] <donza> mathi: /etc/wpa_supplicant?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  sudo apt-get purge eclipse;sudo apt-get autoremove -- also remove config files (in ~/.config or so)
[11:57] <ziyadb> hey guys, quick question.
[11:57] <ziyadb> I run sudo su postgres then get prompted for that account's password. What is the password?
[11:57] <mathi> donza, I have sh scripts there
[11:57] <hillary_> MonkeyDust, how do i remove  ~/.config
[11:58] <mathi> donza, where is the config to change SSID ?
[11:58] <mathi> or WPA pasword :/
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  mind: the folder inside ~/.config -- like you would remove any other folder
[11:59] <mathi> nobody knows where the wireles configs are ?
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> hillary_  in GUI: ctrl-h to show hidden folders
[12:02] <shomon> mathi: do you have an icon showing a wireless connection on the top of the screen?
[12:03] <mathi> shomon, i don't have a screen now ...
[12:03] <mathi> shomon, I have only a CLI
[12:03] <shomon> I think it's network-manager in /etc/init.d
[12:04] <mathi> shomon, this is a script and I don't see my network ID and other settings
[12:04] <mathi> shomon, when I do iwconfig I see all the settings... but where are they ???
[12:05] <mathi> :-(
[12:07] <calwig> where is the #kmail chan?
[12:08] <coz_> hey guys, up until 12.04 I used  python -c "import gtk; gtk.recent_manager_get_default().purge_items()"  to delete recent documents, it doesnt seem to work on 12.10..any revisions to that  action?
[12:09] <away> calwig, maybe try #kontact ?
[12:09] <calwig> away,  just about did :)
[12:12] <Diegosnat> hi guys, what kind of solution ubuntu uses to automount external hd????
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> Diegosnat  /etc/fstab
[12:12] <jpds> Diegosnat: udisks
[12:13] <jpds> MonkeyDust: No.
[12:13] <Diegosnat> jpds, cheers
[12:13] <kostkon_> coz_, try from gi.repository import Gtk,  Gtk.rece... etc
[12:13] <Diegosnat> jpds, where is the config file?
[12:17] <zayan> guys
[12:17] <zayan> :?
[12:18] <zayan> helloo?
[12:18] <ProfessorBacon> hi
[12:18] <zayan> do you know how to use honeypot ?
[12:19] <zayan> heloo?
[12:22] <keyproblem> Is it stupid to create a user named backup in Ubuntu?
[12:23] <geek4ever> !aptitude
[12:24] <geek4ever> !smart
[12:24] <cfhowlett> keyproblem, if you have to ask ...
[12:25] <keyproblem> cfhowlett: I was wondering if perhaps something already used that name.. :(
[12:26] <keyproblem> cfhowlett: guess I could create anotehr user!
[12:27] <jnhghy> I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access
[12:28] <np8> Hi! I just updated to Ubuntu 12.10. Now i have some problems to connect to the internet (I'm here via different pc). How can I see that is my wifi-card broken, or is it just a settings problem? I can see my wifi's (My schools and my phone's shared wifi), but after I have connected to one, I cannot get to any website. Please, can somebody help me?
[12:29] <jnhghy> I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access
[12:34] <away> jnhghy, sudo apt-get install network-manager ?
[12:34] <jnhghy> is there a way to download "network-manager" package and save it on a memory stick? and install it after that?
[12:34] <jnhghy> away: I have no internet connection
[12:35] <away> oh, right
[12:35] <away> you can use apt-get download network-manager on another computer
[12:38] <jnhghy> away:thanks that should work for network-manager :)
[12:39] <iceroot> jnhghy: you have no network because you dont have network-amanger or no network because of no cable?
[12:39] <jnhghy> iceroot: I was trying to install some dependencies and ended up submiting "sudo apt-get install libexpat1:i386" this started a process that automatically removed a lot of software from my ubuntu 12.04 including network-manager ubuntu software al the list goes on. my question: How can I install network manager? I will install the rest manually (I have the list) but need network access
[12:39] <iceroot> jnhghy: i guess that means "because i dont have network manager"
[12:39] <iceroot> jnhghy: you can configure your network via cli
[12:40] <bartzy> kernel compilation - Is that a good test for CPU benchmarking ?
[12:41] <jnhghy> iceroot: it might also mean that I got a lot of things uninstall and I'm not sure if network manager will fix the network connection: I tried eth0 up and got error reading the port. at this point I hope installing network-manager will fix this. how can I use cli?
[12:42] <cardpuncher> Hi, does anyone have the release date of Ubuntu 12.04.2? I read it was tomorrow but also that it was scheduled for like February 14th so I don't know.
[12:44] <away> cardpuncher, launchpad says it's expected in 11 hours
[12:45] <freakynl> hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 server on a pre-existing hardware
[12:46] <freakynl> it has several md raid sets, 12 disks in total, I only want to recreate the OS partitions on the first 2 disks
[12:46] <cardpuncher> away: Yes, I definitely need the alx driver it will contain so I hope that 11 hours are true. But then, <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule> says two more weeks.
[12:46] <freakynl> The problem is, it doesn't show sda in the partition toolie
[12:46] <freakynl> I can see it on the cli, but since that has no fdisk/cfdisk/gdisk/parted I can't do much there either
[12:46] <cfhowlett> freakynl, this might a question better suited to #ubuntu-server
[12:54] <keyproblem> Trying private key ---.ssh/id.dsa .. why won't it use my RSA key?? :/(
[12:55] <iceroot> keyproblem: what command exactly is using your dsa instead of rsa key?
[12:56] <keyproblem> iceroot: tried connecting with -vvv and it never said that if offered "rsa" only "dsa"
[12:56] <jpds> keyproblem: ssh -i .ssh/id_rsa
[12:58] <keyproblem> jpds: that didnt work either.. will try to create dsa key instead iceroot
[12:59] <jpds> keyproblem: Did you actually give it the full path to the RSA key file?
[12:59] <keyproblem> jpds: yup
[13:08] <histo> keyproblem: What are you tryinkg to do?
[13:10] <GoodHand_> Guten tag!
[13:11] <histo> !de | GoodHand_
[13:11] <GoodHand_> Ja Ja!
[13:11] <GoodHand_> Ich liebe Ubuntu de!
[13:11] <GoodHand_> German!
[13:11] <GoodHand_> German!
[13:12] <ioria> Hi. I run lubuntu 12.04 and  i cannot open file url (URL=file:///) in gnome-terminal.  any help ? thanks
[13:12] <GoodHand_> ubottu !help
[13:12] <drakonmane> guten tag
[13:12] <histo> ioria: You can't use links like that in gnome terminal
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !de
[13:12] <GoodHand_> !de
[13:12] <histo> !botabuse > GoodHand_
[13:13] <GoodHand_> ok
[13:13] <drakonmane> I want to speak germen
[13:13] <ioria> histo: I also installed gnome and in gnome i can :+
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> drakonmane  type /join #ubuntu-de
[13:13] <histo> ioria: can you explain a little more perhaps I don't understand what you are doing.
[13:14] <GoodHand_> Hi all!
[13:14] <histo> GoodHand_: Do you have a ubuntu related question?
[13:14] <ioria> histo: ok, sorry. i open gnome-terminal and a file with an url inside (ex. URL=file:///home/ioria/hello) and it opens with gedit
[13:15] <GoodHand_> Yes
[13:15] <GoodHand_> How to add Sublime text 2 (python app) to left bar
[13:15] <histo> ioria: How are you "opening" the file with a url in it?
[13:15] <ioria> histo: but in lubuntu nothing happens
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> GoodHand_  type /join #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:16] <jnhghy> I have a hdd that has ubuntu 12.04 with a lot of software that got removed(including network-manager) at this point I have that hdd in this computer that also has ubuntu 12.04. at this point I see 2 options: 1 I download and copy the missing packages and try to install them after I put the hdd back in it's computer or I reinstall the os-that brings me to a new question: if I reinstall the os can I simply copy paste the current profile? will it use the exi
[13:16] <jnhghy> sting config files? or is this out of the question?
[13:16] <GoodHand_> thx
[13:16] <ioria> histo: you create a file with inside written: URL=file:///home/user/filename
[13:17] <histo> jnhghy: Why not just copy everything with rsync? Or dd
[13:17] <blackshirt> hello, what is the website http://packages.ubuntu.com written with ?
[13:17] <jnhghy> histo: copying everything? what do you mean?
[13:18] <histo> jnhghy: Your question doesn't really makse sense.  Do you have two hdd's or one?  Are you trying to transfer data?
[13:19] <histo> blackshirt: looks like html to me
[13:19] <kunji> histo: ioria is referring to what is shown in the Location bar in Nautilus I think.  Hmm, I've never tried reaching something that way on the command line.
[13:20] <kunji> histo: Well, there's something like that syntax for Browse Network, I don't remember seeing it anywhere else though
[13:20] <ioria> kunji: no wait.... :-(  i'd like to open a file url in gnome terminal but i can't in lubuntu... but i CAN in gnome... why that ?
[13:20] <jnhghy> I'm very sorry if my question doesn't make sens, I'll try elaborate. I said I have a hdd with issues (I removed a lot of softwares from it) at this point that hdd is a slave in a nother computer(the computer I am using now) the data was not affected but I need a solution to fix the os on the hdd that has issues if the best way is to reinstall then I need also a solution to copy the config/customization files with apropriate rights....
[13:20] <histo> jnhghy: I don't know how else to say that for it to make sense.  Copying all your data.
[13:21] <histo> kunji: yeah smb://server  in nautilus
[13:21] <histo> ioria: and how do you open said file in terminal?
[13:21] <histo> jnhghy: rsync <<
[13:22] <histo> jnhghy: and What sort of issues do you mean?
[13:22] <kunji> ioria: That's just it, I don't know what you mean by a file url... files don't have urls, except I think for files on the network rather than on your machine.  Just what file are you trying to access?
[13:22] <jnhghy> histo: you told me a solutin then you ask me what I mean? does it make sens?
[13:22] <ioria> histo: if you write in gnome-terminal "URL=file:///home/user/filename" and you move your mouse over it it's highlighted
[13:22] <histo> Am I crazy or is everyone in here not making sense right now?
[13:22] <histo> jnhghy: rsync can copy your configs
[13:23] <kunji> histo: you're not crazy, I'm as confused as you are
[13:23] <histo> jnhghy: I originally thought you wanted to copy your entire drive. So I was saying you could use rsync or dd
[13:23] <blackshirt> histo: where i can get the source code for it ? is it freely available ?
[13:23] <ioria> histo: and right click you can choose "open link"
[13:23] <jnhghy> histo: thanks for this info, and the new os will use those config files? I need to use the same username? or how will it tell?
[13:23] <histo> blackshirt: right click view source
[13:24] <ioria> histo: and the file opens
[13:24] <kunji> ioria: The highlighting means nothing significant, I think it's just picking up on the syntax with : and // and thinking it's an http url.
[13:24] <histo> ioria: Okay well you can't right click on a file in gnome-terminal . So maybe you mean nautilus file browser.
[13:24] <usr13> histo: You're not crazy
[13:24] <ioria> histo: uffi ....
[13:25] <histo> ioria: uffi?
[13:25] <histo> wth
[13:25] <Ben64> actually, gnome-terminal does parse links and lets you click them
[13:25] <ioria> histo: it's a distress call :-)
[13:25] <usr13> Ben64: Yea, but it just copies the text; Right?
[13:25] <histo> Ben64: how is he even seeing the link if it's in a file in a terminal. He still hasn't explained that.
[13:25] <ioria> Ben64: thank you :-)
[13:26] <ioria> Ben64: you're my man
[13:26] <kunji> histo: You're not crazy yet, but by the end of today... :P
[13:26] <Kartagis> has anybody been experiencing an excessive system load when Chrome is running (not chromium)?
[13:26] <Ben64> usr13: nope; histo: it's not a file, he meant the link just in the terminal
[13:26] <kunji> histo: umm, maybe in a man page?  But I think it would be to a website not a file.
[13:26] <histo> Kartagis: chrome is a memory hog
[13:26] <PioneerAxon> Hey all, I recently started experiencing a new problem with the wireless hotspot. :/
[13:26] <histo> kunji: what?
[13:27] <Kartagis> histo: should I go back to chromium? it's flash-buggy
[13:27] <PioneerAxon> The machines can only connect when I have the network open (no security).
[13:27] <histo> Kartagis: chromium should have the same behavior
[13:28] <Kartagis> histo: so only option left for me is ff?
[13:28] <Jpmh> Kartagis: yes - chrome is horrible if you do not have a boatload of memory
[13:28] <PioneerAxon> One is running Ubuntu 12.10 (with intel 5100 chip) and another on 12.04 (with bcmw 4313).
[13:28] <Kartagis> Jpmh: 2gb
[13:28] <Jpmh> Kartagis: midori seems very low profile
[13:28] <histo> Kartagis: that's plenty of memory. There are lighter browsers though if that is your concern
[13:29] <kunji> histo: Well, for instance if you do man ls and scroll down to the Reporting Bugs section, there are urls to websites.  That's just about the only place I can think of where you would see urls in the terminal.  Well, or in web dev stuff.
[13:29] <usr13> If we want to [regularly] access a samba share on another [Linux] PC, it's probably easiest to set it up as an nfs share, and you can mount it on the local [Linux] PC as /home/user/samba-share or something like that.
[13:29] <Jpmh> Kartagis: 2gb with unity is probably not enough
[13:29] <Kartagis> Jpmh: cairo-dock
[13:30] <Jpmh> Kartagis: what?
[13:30] <ioria> Ben64: i can open 'URL=http:///www.google.com' but i can't open 'URL=file:///home/ioria/myfile' in lubuntu. But in gnome i can... do you know something about that ? please
[13:31] <PioneerAxon> Anyone?
[13:31] <kunji> ioria: Yeah, it parses links, I said that already, but files are not "links" per se.  So is it a link, or a file?  Can you screenshot this for us and paste it?
[13:31] <usr13> .... that's the way I'd do it....  Because there is nothing wrong with having a samba share also set up as an nfs share.  It's very convenient, (especially if you want to access it and manipulate the files via CLI.)
[13:31] <histo> PioneerAxon: How are you trying to connect when security is enabled?
[13:31] <Kartagis> Jpmh: I'm using cairo-dock
[13:31] <Ben64> ioria: use gnome? or don't use weird file links in a terminal
[13:31] <PioneerAxon> histo: Just as I normally did, host the hotspot on the first machine (12.10) and then connect with second (12.04)
[13:32] <ioria> Ben64: come again , plese ?
[13:32] <histo> PioneerAxon: You mean an ad hoc network?
[13:32] <Ben64> ioria: use gnome? or don't use weird file links in a terminal
[13:32] <Jpmh> Kartagis: never tried it
[13:32] <PioneerAxon> histo: I had the networks working a day back.. Then suddenly it won't connect, so I had tried different things, and found out that the only problem is with security.. :/
[13:33] <ioria> Ben64: i'm on lubuntu, but installed also gnome (in another session) and the link it's a link to a text file
[13:33] <PioneerAxon> histo: Yeah ad-hoc. Hosted by hotspot on 12.10
[13:33] <Ben64> ioria: why are you using links like that in a terminal? theres no good reason for it
[13:33] <xiaoy> Which is the ubuntu equivalent for  perl-Net-SSLeay.i686 perl-IO-Socket-SSL pkgs?
[13:33] <kunji> ioria: Is there a reason for wanting to use that format?  Why not just use the path to the file?
[13:34] <valentina> Olá.?
[13:34] <kunji> ioria: Or what's wrong with using a symlink?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> xiaoy  what is it supposed to do?
[13:34] <xiaoy> Mongolski, SSL auth
[13:35] <xiaoy> Mongolski, http://blog.lowkey.net.my/tag/authentication-not-supported-by-the-remote-smtp-server/
[13:35] <xiaoy> Mongolski, i've got the same problem with sendEmail
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> xiaoy  ubuntu server? if yes, they have their own channel #ubuntu-server
[13:35] <ioria> Ben64: you know that Lubuntu has not recent files menu so i parsed with xbel_parse the recently-used.xbel file and so i got all the files i used ... but i want be able to open them immediatly and in gnome i can but not in lubuntu
[13:36] <xiaoy> MonkeyDust, tkz going ;)
[13:36] <nico__> jpasion: -rw-rw-r-- 1 nico nico 9578 Jan 24 15:41 ./doc/html/customcompleter.html
[13:36] <nico__> -rw-rw-r-- 1 nico nico 9657 Jan 30 14:33 ./doc/qtcore/customcompleter.html
[13:37] <ioria> Ben64: the output of recently-used.xbel file is formed by links .... and i want to be able to open them
[13:37] <PioneerAxon> histo: This happened after I tried and failed to set up the hostapd network on the 12.10 machine.. I have reverted everything I ever did for that..
[13:37] <Ben64> ioria: then use gnome
[13:37] <ioria> Ben64: very smart answer :P
[13:38] <Ben64> well yeah, if lxde doesn't do what you want and gnome does, why try to force a square peg into a round hole
[13:38] <ioria> Ben64: gnome already has a recent file menu :)
[13:38] <Ben64> problem solved!
[13:38] <kunji> Ben64: Because the other peg is a triangle?
[13:39] <ioria> Ben64:    :-(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[13:39] <histo> !ics | PioneerAxon
[13:39] <usr13> ioria: thunar is nice too, actually, I like it better.
[13:39] <Ben64> ioria: of course, if you already have a script going to print file locations,  you could take it one step further and put them all in one folder as symlinks and view them graphically
[13:40] <ioria> Ben64:    ^o^
[13:42] <histo> ioria: it most likely doesn't work because pcmanfm is the default file manager in lxde
[13:42] <histo> ioria: as apposed to nautilus
[13:42] <PioneerAxon> histo: I am already using the network manager method.. I just can't connect if I set up a password.. This works fine with open network... It used to work before a day.. Strange...
[13:42] <usr13> I set thunar to View as Detailed List and toggle Name up or down and Date Modified up or down.
[13:42] <ioria> histo: i think you're right
[13:42] <ioria> histo: so ?
[13:43] <histo> ioria: So change the default file manager to nautilus
[13:43] <ioria> histo: i have to change the file manager ?
[13:43] <usr13> ioria: Or try thunar
[13:43] <ioria> histo: i used thunar in xfce
[13:43] <usr13> ioria: YOu can use it in lxde as well, if you want to.
[13:44] <ioria> usr13: i'll try that thanx
[13:45] <histo> ioria: got to LXDE menu > Accessories > File Manager   and right click properties. In the command window type nautilus
[13:46] <xkernel> how to backup the whole keystore?
[13:49] <usr13> xkernel: man keystore
[13:51] <xkernel> usr13, there is no keystore app, I mean the seahorse
[13:55] <rsavu> hello all. trying to start a script with upstart but the service is always starting (giving it a pid) and when typing status, it says it is not running. here is the script: http://pastebin.ca/2308924
[13:55] <nyRednek> as i was asking yesterday, which package is the installer?
[13:55] <usr13> xkernel: man keytool
[13:55] <usr13> xkernel: sorry for typo
[13:55] <MyMom> Hi
[13:56] <MyMom> When i can get new ubuntu for androids?
[13:56] <l057c0d3r> PioneerAxon, i had to set up connections manually for wifi with passwords for some reason with lubuntu.. for some reason there were permission errors when trying to use the connection menu that drops down from the lxde taskbar
[13:56] <usr13> nyRednek: installer for what?
[13:57] <Chiko> trying to remember a program that lets you connect to a ubuntu instance sort of like mstsc/rdp for windows
[13:58] <Chiko> ah nvm tightvnc
[13:59] <histo>  │                          | wifi with
[13:59] <histo> Chiko: rdesktop
[13:59] <usr13> nyRednek: Can you rephrase your question and add more detail?
[13:59] <histo> Chiko: is for windows. vino or tightvnc for vnc connections in linux
[14:00] <usr13> l057c0d3r: lxde  uses lxnm for network manager which is not fully functional, but you can install network-manager and use that.
[14:00] <histo> usr13: or wicd
[14:01] <usr13> l057c0d3r: Yes, as histo points out, there is also wicd
[14:01] <histo> usr13: nvm
[14:01] <nyRednek> usr13, i'm attempting to make a custom livecd without an "install" option
[14:01] <nyRednek> usr13, so which package would i remove from the cd?
[14:01] <l057c0d3r> usr13, i just no it worked better on the live cd then it did after being installed to the system.. i found a workaround and it works just fine for me now though..  but thanks for the advice.. i'll keep them options in mind
[14:01] <usr13> l057c0d3r: wicd may be your best choice while in lxde
[14:02] <usr13> l057c0d3r: Ok
[14:02] <lolmaus> I've installed a fresh Ubuntu 12.04 Server, and SSH won't let me in. Says "Software caused connection abort". Whyyy?
[14:02] <MichaelP> How do i configure audio for HDMI audio ? i opened kmix.. audio setup.. message poped up saying hdmi audio has been removed
[14:03] <Chiko> histo: how do i get the ubuntu server to accept connections for tightvnc? i set it up a while ago but i think i had to run something first
[14:03] <Chiko> cant remember the command
[14:03] <lolmaus> Also "Connection refused". :(
[14:04] <musca> lolmaus: ssh has a -v option for better messages
[14:04] <nyRednek> lolcat, is sshd running?
[14:04] <nyRednek> lolmaus, even
[14:05] <Chiko> crisis averted
[14:05] <lolmaus> musca, i'm connecting from Windows via Putty.
[14:06] <circle> How do I make WINE not insert itself as the default option for openeing a bunch of files (like text files, when I double click them it now opens them with notepad)
[14:07] <SAngeli> is there a difference for the password between an Admin user and the root user? Is there such a root password or account under ubuntu server? I ask this as when I changed the password for the user when I typed sudo -s I had to use the same user password. Can comeone please explain?
[14:07] <usr13> nyRednek: I dono, is it apt-install?
[14:07] <histo> Chiko: Did you install tightvnc server?
[14:07] <nyRednek> usr13, not sure
[14:08] <martin___> SAngeli: There is no root in Server either iirc
[14:08] <nyRednek> usr13, fwiw, i would be happy with an install with minimal GUI
[14:08] <histo> !root | SAngeli
[14:08] <SAngeli> I am just reading an article on this. Thank you histo
[14:09] <lolmaus> musca, "ssh -v localhost" works locally
[14:10] <nyRednek> lolmaus, might be a firewall issue
[14:10] <alcir> hi
[14:11] <alcir> what about showexec for vfat formatted disk?
[14:11] <alcir> there is an easy way to allow all files to be set executables?
[14:11] <alcir> I googled a bit
[14:11] <alcir> but solution offered are not so good...
[14:12] <usr13> nyRednek: install_cd ?
[14:12] <lolmaus> nyRednek, not using any on each end
[14:12] <nyRednek> usr13, researching, will tell you when i know
[14:13] <usr13> nyRednek: or cdromsomething-or-other.   like  cdrominstall?
[14:14] <usr13> nyRednek: I know that the alternate CD has cdromupgrade   so....?
[14:14] <usr13> nyRednek: Google doesn't seem to be much help on this...
[14:15] <nyRednek> usr13, booting into a livecd to see
[14:15] <hick12> hi everybody :) could I ask a quick question about the Ubuntu Windows Installer? Basically I just downloaded it on my laptop and installed it expecting the Windows bootloaders to come up when booting. Instead it jumps right into Ubuntu. Is there a way to get it to boot into the bootloader or do I have to restore the old master boot sector effectively prohibiting me from booting into Ubuntu?
[14:16] <usr13> nyRednek: Yea, just right click on the install icon and see what it says in properties.
[14:16] <usr13> ... should give the command name...
[14:17] <usr13> and test it from terminal.  And then see where it is.  which cdrominstall  or something....
[14:17] <usr13> but the command name is more than likely the app name as well, (I would suppose).
[14:17] <dw-> hick12: should be easy to add windows to your boot loader for selection
[14:18] <dw-> hick12: but i forget how. :P
[14:18] <hick12> reassuring at least^^
[14:19] <lolmaus> Okay, it was the router's firewall to blame.
[14:19] <nyRednek> usr13, forgot that i don't have virtualbox on this system
[14:19] <nyRednek> usr13, will tell you soon
[14:20] <zayan> hi
[14:21] <zayan> heloooo
[14:22] <sdwii> hick12: try this "sudo update-grub"
[14:25] <XATRIX> Hi guys, how can i configure FQDN ?
[14:25] <XATRIX> if i issue #hostname - it gives me "web-course", if i do hostname -f  it gives me back - "localhost" ?
[14:25] <XATRIX> My sendmail delays its transfer localhost sendmail[5556]: My unqualified host name (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry
[14:30] <lolmaus> How do i find out which network adapter (eth0, eth1) corresponds to which device model (nVidia, Marvell)?
[14:32] <dv-> lolmaus: dmesg | grep eth
[14:33] <nyRednek> usr13, it's ubiquity
[14:33] <lolmaus> dv-, no model name ther
[14:34] <dw-> model is in lsusb but no MAC addr some other ID :S
[14:35] <lolmaus> dw-, how do i determine which is which?
[14:38] <dholbach> Day 2 of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek starts in 22 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[14:38] <dw-> lolmaus: cant figure it out.. unplug one :P
[14:38] <orb> hi, napster.
[14:38] <BrixSat> what is the command line to access the aditional driver auto installer?
[14:39] <joelish> I am trying to connect to my server with RSA key but without success.. can anyone please look here? http://pastebin.com/adFPMUcH
[14:39] <nyRednek> usr13, you get that or did i lose connection before it got out?
[14:39] <biff_tannen> #factory_girl
[14:39] <napster> hi orb
[14:39] <biff_tannen> oops disregard that
[14:40] <IdleOne> BrixSat: gksudo jockey-gtk , or jockey-kde
[14:41] <BrixSat> IdleOne:  sudo: jockey-gtk: command not found (but it is installed)
[14:42] <IdleOne> BrixSat: hmm, not sure what to say.
[14:43] <BrixSat> IdleOne:  the package was merged to installer but it still exists in the repo altought does nothing!
[14:43] <blami> hi, what's the difference between xubuntu and ubuntu? Do I understand correctly it is still same distro but different default desktop and set of packages installed (so installing xfce desktop into ubuntu will turn it into what xubuntu is as well)
[14:44] <IdleOne> blami: correct
[14:44] <nyRednek> blami, close
[14:44] <IdleOne> BrixSat: sorry but I am at a loss
[14:44] <nyRednek> blami, xubuntu also has different office packages, etc
[14:44] <IdleOne> blami: actually, installing xubuntu-desktop to be precise
[14:44] <dw-> BrixSat: i see a similar bug reported.. what are you doing
[14:45] <blami> nyRednek, IdleOne thanks :)
[14:45] <BrixSat> dw-:  i want to see if my graphic card is installed cause some programs are laggy in vga, like the xbmc . how can i do that?
[14:45] <y2j> how do i isntall xampp-linux-1.8.1.tar.gz
[14:46] <y2j> or tar.gz in general
[14:46] <y2j> the script is in there but how do i know if its installe
[14:46] <dw-> BrixSat: click name -> system settings -> additional drivers ?
[14:46] <BrixSat> y2j:  you have to uncompress and read the README
[14:46] <Pici> y2j: You should use the LAMP stack in our repositories instead of a third parrt package like that.,
[14:46] <Pici> y2j: We will not troubleshoot XAMPP installs here.
[14:46] <ThinkT510> !xampp | y2j
[14:46] <BrixSat> dw-:  the aditional driver is not there
[14:46] <nyRednek> blami, but the same repositories, same base system, same system...just different package options
[14:46] <dw-> brianbgrp: apt-get install nvidia-current ? :)
[14:46] <dw-> wups
[14:47] <BrixSat> dw-:  this is an intel (00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[14:47] <BrixSat> )
[14:47] <y2j> thats long may as well stick to wamp on windows
[14:48] <BrixSat> y2j:  what is the point to install wamp or xampp in linux? why not apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server
[14:50] <blami> nyRednek: i like it is done this way, no diversity and easy transition :)
[14:50] <mathi> hey
[14:51] <mathi> when I start my computer, sometimes I get a menu with blackground, to chose generic, recovery mode, etc.
[14:51] <OTI> hello, i upgraded 12.04 to 12.10 and now my internet connection refuses to work. the top right icon says i'm online but i can't open any pages with browser nor ping via terminal
[14:51] <OTI> wired connection, now wlan
[14:51] <mathi> as I didn't have any screen, i couldn't chose, I would like my computer to chose the first entry always
[14:51] <OTI> not wlan, sorry
[14:52] <nyRednek> blami: whatever works
[14:52] <mathi> like on windows, when it prompts how to start the computer (normal mode, recovery, ...) there is a timer
[14:52] <mathi> I need the same thing
[14:52] <ThinkT510> mathi: it should already do that by default
[14:53] <ThinkT510> !grub | mathi
[14:53] <mathi> ThinkT510: unfortunately it was waiting forever for a keyboard entry
[14:54] <y2j> i have a spare hard drive any uses for it?
[14:54] <mathi> ThinkT510: how is this screen namede so that I can google ,?
[14:54] <mathi> *called
[14:55] <ThinkT510> mathi: i just gave you the link to the grub docs on the ubuntu wiki
[14:55] <mathi> thank you
[14:55] <histo> mathi: if you have a look in the /etc/default/grub  file you can set the timeout
[14:56] <histo> mathi: it's the grub boot menu
[14:56] <y2j> ok i have 64gb ssd for ubutnu, 256 for winodws 8 64bit enterprise and another 1tb for some winodws 8 progarms im going to add 2 3tb hard drives in raid
[14:56] <y2j> how do i tranfer all of the 1tb stuff to one of the 3tb hard drives so i can take the 1tb out and all the prgrams will work on the 3tb
[14:56] <y2j> then raid the 3tb with the other 3tb
[14:57] <jhutchins_wk> y2j: Build the raid first.
[14:57] <mathi> histo: in grub file I have "GRUB_TIMEOUT=10", but i promess you it was waiting forever and it wasnt showing any time counter
[14:57] <y2j> jhutchins_wk: When i install the 2 3tb i dont want it to break the mbr
[14:57] <y2j> it always does
[14:57] <histo> y2j: rsync -av source destination
[14:58] <y2j> ok build the raid
[14:58] <histo> mathi: change it and make sure you update-grub
[14:58] <nils_> mathi: it could be that grub recorded some sort of failure, which will cause it to not use a timeout
[14:58] <y2j> how about moving the 1tb data to the 3tb hd?
[14:58] <mathi> nils_:  how do I force it to use the timeout *in any case*
[14:58] <y2j> as the 1tb is f: drive the new 3tb has to become f otherwise windows registry will not open the files on the 3tb?
[14:59] <dw-> easier questions, plz
[14:59] <y2j> i use the 1tb for programs that dont need speed, so the 256ssd has some breathing room
[14:59] <nils_> mathi: I just read up on that very problem today, it should be sufficient to set GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT  in /etc/default/grub then do update-grub
[15:00] <Guest32263> I can't get the icedtea plugin to work properly, does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:01] <Guest32263> upon loading it always asks to "run this time" or "update plug-in"
[15:01] <mathi> thznks trying to reboot
[15:02] <funky1> hi all:)
[15:03] <funky1> got a question about ubuntu for mobile phones, will it be able to run normal linux applications or special apps need to be developed for it?
[15:03] <funky1> does anyone know this?
[15:03] <OTI> help with internet connection?
[15:03] <ThinkT510> !phone | funky1
[15:03] <funky1> ah thanks thinkt510 :)
[15:09] <l057c0d3r> hmm ok so i installed cairo dock. on lubuntu and the messenger thing is telling me i need the messenger service installed...  according to the docks in comes already installed on ubuntu.. but im taking it since lubuntu is light weight.. it is left out
[15:10] <l057c0d3r> so the question is.. what is the name of the message menu / messenger service used by ubuntu / unity so i could install :-)
[15:11] <mike160> hi can anyone help me out installing justcloud on ubuntu 10.4
[15:11] <mike160> i keep getting
[15:11] <mike160> •elena-IK• Unable to locate package JustCloud_32.deb
[15:11] <mike160> •elena-IK• Couldn't find any package by regex 'JustCloud_32.deb'
[15:12] <histo> ))))))))))))) │[10:12] [6] [irc/freenode] 2:#ubuntu(+CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged){1822}* [Act: 5:##linux]
[15:12] <histo>  │[10:12] [6] [irc/freenode] 2:#ubuntu(+CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged){1822}* [Act: 5:##linux]
[15:12] <histo> Sorry
[15:12] <histo> stupid touchpad
[15:12] <llutz> mike160: how do you try to install that? sudo dpkg -i  JustCloud_32.deb
[15:12] <FloodBot1> histo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <mike160> llutz i have the file download it on my computer
[15:14] <llutz> mike160: so use: sudo dpkg -i  JustCloud_32.deb               change into the directory containing the file before, or add the path to the deb
[15:14] <heywood> dumb bash question... i want to define alias foo="echo args: $0, $1, $2, $#, bar". but the command "foo arg1 arg2 arg3" gives me "args: -bash, , , 0, bar arg1 arg2 arg3" ... what am i missing?
[15:14] <Pici> heywood: Probably that you'd get a better answer asking in #bash
[15:15] <heywood> Pici: ah, thanks -- didn't see that channel. cheers.
[15:15] <zilkomaa> im depressed
[15:15] <llutz> heywood: you want functions not aliases when using optional parameters
[15:15] <zilkomaa> linux is so useless..
[15:15] <mike160> llutz ok thanks will try this
[15:15] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: not the best way to get help...
[15:16] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, Yeah i know
[15:16] <l057c0d3r> so any one..  know what package to install to get the messaging menu service ?
[15:17] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: perhaps you should state your issue?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  "the messaging menu service"?
[15:17] <l057c0d3r> yeah the messaging service
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  what messaging service do you have in mind?
[15:18] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, Hard to get radeon drivers working properly and in windows it is working so easy..
[15:18] <mike160> llutz i tryed sudo dpkg -i JustCloud_32.deb now am geting
[15:18] <freakynl> I'm getting a black screen after grub with 12.10 server. Any ideas? Adding nomodeset in grub (with e editing) doesn't make any difference :(. Is there anything else? I'd like to see the kernel booting
[15:18] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, 3D i mean
[15:19] <mike160> (Reading database ... 147579 files and directories currently installed.)
[15:19] <mike160> Preparing to replace justcloud 3.3.0.13 (using JustCloud_32.deb) ...
[15:19] <mike160> Unpacking replacement justcloud ...
[15:19] <mike160> Setting up justcloud (3.3.0.13) ...
[15:19] <mike160> dpkg: error processing justcloud (--install):
[15:19] <FloodBot1> mike160: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:19] <mike160> subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[15:19] <mike160> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:19] <l057c0d3r> u know the envelope on unity... allows you to go offline / available / shows messages received from instant messengers
[15:19] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: i'm using the open source radeon drivers out of the box, sorry i can't help
[15:19] <l057c0d3r> that service is required for the cairo dock message system to work...  im on lubuntu not ubuntu.. so that service is not installed
[15:19] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, Ok, you fine with those?
[15:20] <histo> MonkeyDust: I think he means the notifier
[15:20] <Allan_> guys. is this the right kernel module for an ati sound device? http://pastebin.com/fi4TF9gK
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> l057c0d3r  histo  i missed the cairo and lubuntu part
[15:20] <l057c0d3r> i installed gir1.2-messagingmenu-1.0 but im thinking that was either not right.. or i have to start it.. which if starting it is the case i have no idea how
[15:21] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: no problems whatsoever
[15:21] <ozcanesen> apt-get can't find python-xlib on raring, any idea why?
[15:21] <histo> l057c0d3r: What error are you getting with cairo-dock?
[15:21] <OTI> hello, i upgraded 12.04 to 12.10 and now my internet connection refuses to work. the top right icon says i'm online but i can't open any pages with browser nor ping via terminal. (wired connection)
[15:21] <l057c0d3r> the messaging service did not reply..  please make sure it is installed correctly
[15:22] <l057c0d3r> and in there docks. it said that it is already installed in ubuntu.. i thought that maybe it was just missing on lubuntu.. and i could simply install it
[15:22] <l057c0d3r> err doc's
[15:22] <l057c0d3r> but no clue what i'm supposed to install
[15:22] <histo> l057c0d3r: No dependancies should be pulled if you installed cairo-dock from software center.
[15:22] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, You play bluray (.mkv) movies without no problems?
[15:23] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: never tried
[15:23] <njd002> heeeeey good morning!
[15:23] <compdoc> heeeeey isnt here
[15:23] <l057c0d3r> basicly im trying to install ubuntu/unity messsaging system on lubuntu..  just dont know what packages to install
[15:23] <dw-> OTI: are you running ubuntu on virtualbox
[15:24] <OTI> no, normal desktop
[15:24] <zilkomaa> ThinkT510, What u do with ubuntu then? just hangin?
[15:24] <njd002> so silly question...again.. :P does ubuntu acknowledge TPM and if i create bare metal image into qcow2 that is tpm encrypted i cannot pass tpm through libvirt to the vm can i ?
[15:25] <OTI> dw-:  tried to connect my computer with a phone, that didn't work either
[15:25] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: music, movies, browsing, chat, printing
[15:25] <l057c0d3r> ThinkT510, don't forget games :-P  ryzome runs great..  realms online..  diablo II with wine
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> zilkomaa  ubuntu has some more features than just playing bluray
[15:26] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: not much of a gamer sorry
[15:26] <njd001> be right back...
[15:26] <histo> l057c0d3r: How did you install cairo-dock?
[15:27] <l057c0d3r> through the software center
[15:27] <threex5> Is there a way to get nautilus preferences back on gnome fallback?
[15:27] <threex5> I like to be able to single-click folders, instead of double-click
[15:27] <histo> l057c0d3r: then you should have everything needed to run cairo-dock
[15:27] <mstenta> I'm looking for recommendations for a decent Ultrabook that works with Ubuntu… any thoughts out there? :-)
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> threex5  edit
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> threex5  edit, preferences, behaviour
[15:28] <zilkomaa> MonkeyDust, Like what vs other platforms?
[15:28] <histo> l057c0d3r: maybe ask in #cairo-dock  They may be able to explain the error.
[15:28] <zilkomaa> MonkeyDust, and i dont mean hacking
[15:28] <threex5> ah, excellent
[15:28] <threex5> thanks so much
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> zilkomaa  pc's can be used for several different things, each uses the programs he needs or likes
[15:29] <dw-> OTI: system settings -> Network is Airplane mode on?  Not sure that works for wired connects...
[15:29] <zilkomaa> MonkeyDust, yeah sure with slower pc's linux is fine..
[15:29] <threex5> MonkeyDust (and whomever), do you know how to enable shadows/compositing in metacity, in gnome fallback? I read that if you don't want to use compositing, you can still use shadows in gnome classic (no effects).
[15:30] <OTI> dw, where do you find that one?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> threex5  no, i don't like/use eyecandy very much
[15:30] <l057c0d3r> zilkomaa..  i haven't touched windows in such a long time....   i can do all i need from linux.. including games/steam/netflix(which dosn't work perfectly but meh)
[15:31] <dw-> OTI: toolbar username > system settings > Network
[15:31] <l057c0d3r> zilkomaa, and this is not a slow pc.. it is a very nice computer....
[15:31] <OTI> dw, Network found but airplane?  :O
[15:32] <Allan_> guys. is this the right kernel module for an ati sound device? http://pastebin.com/fi4TF9gK
[15:32] <OTI> dw, i have two options, wired and network proxy
[15:32] <dw-> OTI: its at the top
[15:32] <zilkomaa> l057c0d3r, heh ok games run smooth ?
[15:33] <dw-> OTI: prob wireless only :P
[15:33] <histo> !ati | zilkomaa
[15:33] <dw-> OTI: maybe a driver :(
[15:33] <l057c0d3r> i play skyrim.. just fine..
[15:33] <phoenixsampras> why using exfat makes the computer slow ?!????
[15:34] <OTI> dw, yep maybe for wireless because no airplane found
[15:34] <njd001> back :)
[15:34] <phoenixsampras> How to disable Compiz???
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  unity is a compiz plugin
[15:35] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: if you are on unity it would be a bad idea to disable compiz
[15:36] <nyRednek> ok, i'm having an issue getting afterstep to appear in the lightdm menu
[15:36] <histo> ThinkT510: does unity2d use compiz?  Ofcourse he would only be able to do that in 12.04
[15:36] <ThinkT510> histo: no, it uses metacity
[15:36] <dw-> OTI: ping 8.8.8.8 works /
[15:37] <dw-> OTI: could be dns
[15:37] <phoenixsampras> oh shit... then i dont want Unity... i want gnome
[15:37] <phoenixsampras> how to install decent gnome? i dont need effects or other stuff
[15:37] <ozette> I've reached the point to where my windows e.g. "File", "Edit", "View" et al show empty boxes, how can I get them to show their options again
[15:37] <OTI> dw, yes that ping 8.8.8.8 works for some reason
[15:37] <dw-> OTI: dns servers are messed up
[15:38] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, or lubuntu??  lxde is amazing
[15:38] <OTI> what's dns
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> domain name service
[15:38] <dw-> OTI: they convert hostname.com to IP for connection
[15:38] <histo> phoenixsampras: what version of uubntu are you using?
[15:38] <OTI> so is this problem in my end or someone's else?
[15:39] <dw-> OTI: so host google.com will fail etc
[15:39] <phoenixsampras> histo: 12
[15:39] <phoenixsampras> l057c0d3r: damn.. that means i need to reinstall?
[15:39] <phoenixsampras> this unity stuff is crap, where is gnome?
[15:40] <dw-> OTI: its your config or router/ISP
[15:40] <OTI> i have this computer and the problem one in same router, and this one's connection works fine
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  install some other DE, logout, select DE, login
[15:40] <ThinkT510> !gnome2 | phoenixsampras
[15:40] <l057c0d3r> unity is not bad.. just a little more resource hungry... there is a unity2d option
[15:40] <histo> nyRednek: Isn't afterstep dead?
[15:40] <phoenixsampras> oh cool, where is that unity2d ?
[15:40] <l057c0d3r> at login screen you can choose to use it instead..
[15:40] <histo> phoenixsampras: 12 what?
[15:40] <histo> phoenixsampras: cat /etc/issue
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  12.04 or 12.10
[15:41] <phoenixsampras> where it says?
[15:42] <dw-> OTI: some report sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/backup.resolv.conf fixes it
[15:42] <phoenixsampras> ubuntu 12.10
[15:42] <phoenixsampras> ive loged out, but i cant find a menu where to chose unity 2d ?
[15:43] <l057c0d3r> bah.. was reading online and it sais here that it was removed from 12.10
[15:43] <histo> phoenixsampras: yeah it's not availibel on 12.10
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  maybe you have to install it first
[15:43] <phoenixsampras> oh dammit
[15:43] <phoenixsampras> how to install it?
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> and mind your language
[15:43] <l057c0d3r> and that unity now uses llvmpipe for people that do not have enough resources to run unity..  which would make unity run like unity2d did
[15:43] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: you don't install unity2d on 12.10
[15:44] <zilkomaa> i love win7
[15:44] <l057c0d3r> so one unity for everyone now
[15:44] <phoenixsampras> omg... then how i can get a decent gnome?
[15:44] <zilkomaa> and subutex
[15:44] <zilkomaa> and ssd drivers
[15:44] <zilkomaa> and ssd drives
[15:45] <histo> phoenixsampras: well there is gnome shell and gnome mate  ?
[15:45] <histo> zilkomaa: please join #windows then
[15:45] <zilkomaa> ima geek and have no friends or girlfriends whatsoever
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> zilkomaa: want a cookie?
[15:45] <phoenixsampras> sudo apt-get install full-gnome3-experience
[15:45] <ThinkT510> zilkomaa: poor dude, but this is ubuntu support
[15:45] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, check this page out
[15:45] <l057c0d3r> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> !info full-gnome3-experience
[15:45] <DJones> zilkomaa: Thats your business, the channel is only interested in Ubuntu support
[15:46] <l057c0d3r> sudo apt-get install lxde
[15:46] <l057c0d3r> :-)
[15:46] <zilkomaa> sudo apt-get working gpu-drivers
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: could just install openbox and ditch the desktop environment all together
[15:46] <ahungry> hi all, I have a server running the old ubuntu 7.04, at this moment a reinstall of a current distro isn't possible, however due to an rsync issue I need to upgrade rsync to any version over 3.0.7, I see lucid lynx has that version
[15:46] <ahungry> how would I go about installing a versino of rsync from a newer distro on an older one
[15:46] <histo> !gnome3 | phoenixsampras
[15:46] <phoenixsampras> ouch...
[15:46] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, yeah....  but he was asking for gnome 2 so i figured he wanted a taskbar
[15:47] <ThinkT510> ahungry: you don't
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> ahungry: Gutsy is EOL, plese upgrade to a newer release
[15:47] <phoenixsampras> omg...
[15:47] <ThinkT510> ahungry: get a supported release
[15:47] <histo> phoenixsampras: What?
[15:47] <phoenixsampras> so i dont have unity2d, nor gnome3....
[15:47] <l057c0d3r> and zilkomaa my ati drivers work fine
[15:47] <l057c0d3r> and have catalyst control center on here as well
[15:47] <phoenixsampras> i just want the old fashion gnome
[15:47] <histo> !ati > zilkomaa
[15:47] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: gnome2 is dead, move on
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: then install gnome-panel, log off and log in to the new session
[15:47] <histo> !mate | phoenixsampras
[15:47] <l057c0d3r> no you can get gnome 3
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> phoenixsampras  getting used to unity is faster than shouting and complaining for hours on end
[15:48] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: my favourite is xfce
[15:48] <phoenixsampras> well i like unity... just is hell SLOW.... unusable
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: I suggest xfce if you like the 2 panel desktop style
[15:48] <zilkomaa> jb
[15:48] <zilkomaa> ubottu, thnx
[15:48] <histo> !notunity | phoenixsampras
[15:48] <phoenixsampras> how to install nvidia drives?
[15:48] <zilkomaa> bot
[15:49] <histo> !nvidia > phoenixsampras
[15:49] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, have youj installed graphics drivers?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: if its a switchable GPU, you need bumblebee
[15:49] <histo> phoenixsampras: it could be slow because your not using nvidia propriatary drivers.
[15:49] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: is a laptop
[15:49] <phoenixsampras> core i7 vaio
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: if your CPU has a sandy/ivy bridge, then its switchable
[15:50] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, heh now you lost me too :-p
[15:50] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: how to know if its sandy?
[15:50] <histo> l057c0d3r: some laptops can switch between the sandy bridge display and nvidia to save power.
[15:51] <phoenixsampras> oh, then i suppose is switchable
[15:51] <l057c0d3r> oh
[15:51] <phoenixsampras> however, where is restricted drivers are available. ?
[15:51] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: under software sources
[15:51] <histo> l057c0d3r: It's the most useless thing I've ever seen. They should just make a low power consuming nvidia card for laptops.
[15:51] <histo> phoenixsampras: in the settings
[15:52] <l057c0d3r> histo, but but.. i play games on my lappy :-p let it pull power... i need the resources lol
[15:52] <phoenixsampras> all the docs seems outdated
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: what is the full model of the system?
[15:52] <histo> phoenixsampras: What docs?
[15:52] <l057c0d3r> phoenixsampras, go to software center..  click properties / settings...  click software sources tab..
[15:52] <histo> l057c0d3r: doesn't need to do that for nvidia drivers.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: you can also check with:  sudo lshw -C display     if you see an Intel GPU too, then its switchable
[15:52] <ThinkT510> phoenixsampras: ubuntu isn't that great at keeping the wiki up to date
[15:53] <histo> ThinkT510: the comunity isn't that great you mean.
[15:53] <ThinkT510> histo: indeed
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> ThinkT510: its a wiki, so YOU can update it if you wish
[15:53] <phoenixsampras> product: GT216 [GeForce GT 330M]
[15:53] <phoenixsampras> No Intel on sight
[15:54] <histo> ThinkT510: this page is less than a month old https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: cool, no problem then :)
[15:54] <histo> ThinkT510: that's the link I sent him.
[15:54] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: im installing NVIDIA Xorg driver... tested
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     reboot to test
[15:54] <OTI> if i ping 74.125.143.94 i get response back but however ping www.google.fi doesn't work. that ip is for www.google.fi. does this tell something?
[15:55] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: okis, cancelling last action
[15:55] <ikonia> OTI: your dns is not working
[15:55] <l057c0d3r> heh..  well on this lappy.. i had to install pulseaudio in lubuntu.. to get sound working :-/
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> OTI  it means it's a DNS issue
[15:55] <histo> OTI: yes your DNS is not working
[15:55] <dw-> OTI: check the private msg.. try at prompt: sudo mv /etc/resolv.conf /etc/backup.resolv.conf
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: i see that quite a lot, very weird
[15:55] <llutz> dw-: that will break dns completly
[15:55] <threex5> so i read that gnome classic is going to be phased out. for those of you who refuse to use unity, what do you plan to do?
[15:56] <phoenixsampras> ActionParsnip: E: Unable to locate package nvidia-current
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> OTI: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[15:56] <histo> OTI: can you please tell us what is in /etc/resolv.conf  for nameservers
[15:56] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, i think it had something to do with the hdmi port exts..
[15:56] <ikonia> OTI: ignore what dw- said
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: sudo apt-get update
[15:56] <l057c0d3r> err ext...  and alsa wanting to use it and not the speakers on the lappy...
[15:56] <ikonia> name servers are 127.01.1.
[15:56] <ikonia> ubuntu uses dnamasq now by default
[15:56] <ThinkT510> threex5: do you have a support issue?
[15:56] <dw-> multiple people say it works @ http://tinyurl.com/cud6ec2
[15:56] <l057c0d3r> and alsamixer would not let me switch to the other device...  didn't even show it in the list
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: even in F6?
[15:57] <l057c0d3r> yep
[15:57] <ikonia> dw-: dw- blindly doing it is bad
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> OTI: use the command I gave and get fully updated, may help
[15:57] <vlt> Hello. I want to trigger a script by an email arriving. Any idea how to solve this? What tools does Ubuntu offer for such a task?
[15:58] <threex5> ThinkT510, I guess not.
[15:58] <threex5> nevermind
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vlt: which email client?
[15:58] <ikonia> vlt: you'll need your MTA to do that, or your delivery agent to do it
[15:58] <histo> ikonia: How is dnsmasq configured then?
[15:58] <ikonia> histo: it's very annoying
[15:58] <phoenixsampras> quantal is the god of cows for mexicans?
[15:58] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, i take that back.... it would show the generic and the hdmi.. but no matter what i did.. unmute increase levels.. no sound came out
[15:59] <histo> ikonia: isn't resolvconfd  used still?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: funky, its not a massive overhead which is a bonus
[15:59] <ikonia> histo: it points all your requests via librsolver to 127.0.1.1, then runs dnsmasq on that local address
[15:59] <ikonia> histo: that I don't know without looking
[15:59] <dw-> OTI: youll get it soon :) later
[15:59] <histo> ikonia: yeah resolvconf  is still installed
[16:00] <ikonia> histo: still used though
[16:00] <histo> ikonia: you can still specify nameservers in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> OTI: does my command help?
[16:00] <ikonia> histo: mega
[16:00] <l057c0d3r> ActionParsnip, yeah.. i love lubuntu..  but it has tons of glitches with it..  network manager error... (simple workaround) sound error (simple workaround)..  now this messenger service.....  but oh well..  easier then my gentoo/fluxbox setup i use on my desktop to maintain though
[16:00] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Completely undefined. If possible I would like a non GUI solution. Is there a cli email client that can hold a connection to an IMAP account and instantly react (like Thunderbird does)?
[16:00] <histo> ikonia: mega?
[16:00] <threex5> actually, I do have a question: In gnome, alt+right-click used to resize windows but it doesn't work in gnome fallback. is there a way to bring this back
[16:00] <threex5> ?
[16:00] <ikonia> histo: "great"
[16:01] <histo> l057c0d3r: /j #lubuntu
[16:01] <threex5> also it would be nice to program other key commands but this isn't in preferences anymore
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> vlt: there is gmail watcher (similar for generic emails) and you can tell it to run a command and make a noise on new emails
[16:01] <vlt> ActionParsnip: Sounds great
[16:01] <histo> vlt: mutt
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> histo:  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head is generated (cat the file)
[16:02] <histo> vlt: although what do you mean by instantly react?
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: No it isn't
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: That's the head of the /etc/resolv.conf  file
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> histo: cat the file, you'll see
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> histo: cat  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: No it's not
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: how do you think that message gets at the head of /etc/resolv.conf
[16:02] <histo> ActionParsnip: from that file
[16:03] <xangua> threex5: don't you mean alt+middle button¿
[16:03] <OTI> histo, cat /etc/resolv.conf gives nameserver 8.8.8.8
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1589964/
[16:03] <histo> OTI: now ping google.fi
[16:03] <histo> ActionParsnip: Perhaps you don't understand.
[16:03] <threex5> xangua, thank you. In mate it was right click
[16:03] <vlt> histo: Thunderbird, for example, shows me the “new mail” popup in the very moment a new email arrives on the server.
[16:03] <llutz> ActionParsnip: that is the part being copied into /etc/resolv.conf
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> histo: the file is made, you can edit the base file without issue
[16:03] <threex5> i thought it was the case in gnome 2 as well. it seems that some key bindings have changed subtly
[16:03] <OTI> ActionParsnip: that echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null didn't do anything, nothing visual at least
[16:04] <histo> ActionParsnip: No you're not getting it
[16:04] <BluesKaj> histo, cat works here shows the nameservers, domain and search
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> OTI: it doesn't, that's why I used /dev/null :)
[16:04] <llutz> ActionParsnip: you can edit all those files without issues, they will be copied and build "/etc/resolv.conf"
[16:04] <histo> ActionParsnip: the resolvconf  package generates the /etc/resolv.conf from the head and base
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> OTI: you can now run:   sudo apt-get update    and be ok
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> histo: llutz: I see, I'd leave the header alone, the base is much neater
[16:05] <OTI> histo, ping www.google.fi works but no pages open
[16:05] <histo> ActionParsnip: The head is just a commented message
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> OTI: can you get updates now?
[16:05] <histo> OTI: ping doesn't open pages
[16:05] <llutz> ActionParsnip: to override networkmanager you'll have to edit head, not base, to get your entries first
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> histo: gotcha
[16:05] <l057c0d3r> hmm i was thinking about droping xcompmgr and installing compiz.. but wouldnt that replace openbox?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: yes as both are window managers
[16:06] <l057c0d3r> thats what i thought
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> l057c0d3r: you can run just compiz on its own
[16:06] <histo> ActionParsnip: after editing you also have to restart resolvconf
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> histo: true
[16:06] <OTI> histo, ActionParsnip, thanks after that sudo apt-get update network is back, thank you :)
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> OTI: yay
[16:07] <histo> OTI: although I fear your dns is only fixed temporarily
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> OTI: get fully updated then reboot, the edit to resolv.conf is not permanent but the updates may make it ok
[16:08] <OTI> ActionParsnip: get fully updated? means check latest update via software update or what?
[16:08] <Blacklite_> hello
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> OTI: just run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:09] <nullby7e> how its working video ati 5xxx with ubuntu 12.10?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> OTI: software centre is too slow for my tastes :)
[16:09] <nullby7e> about video drivers
[16:09] <Blacklite_> I'm a quite advanced linux user (2years with various distros) and I'd like to give back to the community by offering advice to Linux Newbies, where should I go?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> nullby7e: should be ok, 12.10 hates 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[16:10] <DJones> !contribute | Blacklite_
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: http://askubuntu.com   (if memory serves)
[16:10] <Blacklite_> I didn't necessarily mean with ubuntu
[16:10] <Chaorain> Hey, I'm getting an error, "Dependency not satisfiable: libc6 (>= 2.15)" im on Ubuntu 10.04 and can't upgrade because my computer is ancient. I have libc6 version 2.11.1-0 installed. is there an easy way to fix this?
[16:11] <Blacklite_> although that is where most newbies go.
[16:11] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: why 12.10 when i install manual drivers by nvidia.com GUI shows nothing I mean only wallpaper becouse 650ti geforce not works well with default drivers in 12.10
[16:11] <Tribaal> hi all, does 13.04 xstart break from other testers?
[16:11] <xangua> !13.04 | Tribaal
[16:11] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: when i startx with manual driver it shows only wallpaper nothing other
[16:11] <Blacklite_> Chaorain: compile libc6 from source
[16:11] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: the same and with new custom build kernel
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> nullby7e: try installing xfce4 package, then log in to the xfce session
[16:12] <nullby7e> ActionParsnip: ok what about kernel?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nullby7e: we can't support home compiled kernels
[16:13] <nullby7e> ok
[16:13] <MarkShuttleworth> MY NAME IS MARK SHUTTLEWORTH
[16:13] <MarkShuttleworth> AND I AM YOUR GOD
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> caps
[16:13] <MarkShuttleworth> I AM FULLY IN SUPPORT OF AMAZON ADS
[16:13] <DJones> MarkShuttleworth: sTOP TROLLING
[16:13] <MarkShuttleworth> AND I AM ALSO A HOMOSEXUAL
[16:13] <nullby7e> hahahaaha
[16:14] <kostkon> ...
[16:14] <OTI> ActionParsnip: after sudo apt-get update && upgrade && dist-upgrade && reboot network is doing fine, thank you
[16:16] <Rabblerouser> So I installed the ATI Catalyst official Linux drivers for my GPU... but now it seems to want to default to nothing but 4:3 resoluitons
[16:17] <Rabblerouser> Anyone able to helps?
[16:17] <threex5> How do i edit or create custom keybindings in gnome fallback?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> OTI: even after a reboot?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: what is the GPU and which release?
[16:18] <Rabblerouser> Ubuntu 12.10 and ATI Radeon HD 4670
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: the Xorg in 12.10 doesn't run well on 4xxx ATi GPUs.
[16:18] <Rabblerouser> It also seems to make Unity not work
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: there is a legacy PPA you can use
[16:20] <Rabblerouser> I take it this is soemthign that won't be fixed in later Ubuntus.
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[16:20] <Blacklite_> I want to create a bare-bones system for playing minecraft on as fast as possible, what programs would you guys suggest?
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Rabblerouser: use the Tomasz Makarewicz PPA
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: ubuntu minimal, fluxbox, wicd, slim
[16:21] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: I like the way you think
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: if you use a wired link, you won't even need wicd
[16:21] <Blacklite_> It's offline.
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: then you won't need it if there is no network access needed
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: then grab java from the java ppa and you are off
[16:22] <Rabblerouser> I'm just curious if in sometime in the future, I would have to use the terminal to get this driver working right.
[16:22] <Blacklite_> that's pretty simple.
[16:22] <Blacklite_> is there a tool I can use for building a custom ubuntu iso?
[16:23] <Blacklite_> inb4 uck
[16:23] <OTI> ActionParsnip: yes even after reboot
[16:24] <u_OL> tornadoes coming, wish me luck lol.  bbl hopefully ;D
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> OTI: good, then its fixed fixed
[16:24] <OTI> :)
[16:25] <threex5> a lot of preferences are missing. For instance, how do I add a printer now? Is there a way I can get basic preferences back in gnome fallback?
[16:25] <Rabblerouser> There is a temp fix if you have seperate wms installed, though, when you ahve the graphics issues. :D
[16:25] <sunguoyao> jion in then out
[16:25] <Psycho_Mantis> Hey everybody
[16:26] <xangua> threex5: i see the printer settings in unity and in system center
[16:26] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: that was so helpful that I almost cried.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: its fun to make your own. I just use minimal and build up (after removing the pre-release bloat I usually have)
[16:27] <threex5> system settings. I see. thank you
[16:27] <Blacklite_> yeah bloatware sucks
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> geeks... ;)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: there's just a lot of stuff in a default OS which I don't use. I'm using xpud more and more these days
[16:28] <Blacklite_> xpud?
[16:28] <Blacklite_> sorry for my ignorance, I'm usually a slackware user
[16:29] <ross`> what does ubuntu use for flash?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: a very quick to boot limited OS. Pretty much just a browser and a torrent client
[16:29] <ross`> is there a package for it?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ross`: there are options
[16:29] <ross`> ActionParsnip: i want whatever is similar to debian flashplugin-nonfree
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> ross`: you can install ubuntu-restricted-extras and get flash
[16:29] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: nice
[16:30] <Blacklite_> ross: also you could install flashplugin-installer and it's quicker
[16:30] <ross`> do i need to add universe to apt
[16:30] <ross`> or anything
[16:30] <Blacklite_> no
[16:30] <ross`> i'm using liveusb, my harddrive crashed
[16:30] <mimir> hi, i have a weird problem with my logitech unify mouse... after i restart i have to remove the unify dongle from the USB3 port and reinsert several times before mouse works... any ideas?
[16:30] <ross`> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-installer
[16:30] <ross`> yes i did apt-get update
[16:31] <Blacklite_> ross: then do apt-get upgrade
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> !flash | ross`
[16:31] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: those are never useful
[16:31] <mimir> ross`: you want to install flash ?
[16:32] <ross`> yea, nonfree
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> I just install Chrome, all is well.
[16:32] <ross`> or what debian considers flashplugin-nonfree, whatever is the closest to that
[16:32] <Blacklite_> how do I copy the isolinux bootloader binary? where is it?
[16:32] <mimir> ross`: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-native-64bit-flash-player-11-on-linux.html i've done a tutorial a while ago... but these days it just works for me...
[16:32] <Blacklite_> flashplugin-installer
[16:32] <threex5> When I try to install a printer, I get "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall"
[16:32] <mimir> ross`: you might have to find the latest download URLs
[16:33] <ross`> Blacklite_: that doesn't exist in default apt sources
[16:33] <Blacklite_> ross: ?
[16:33] <ozcanesen> my Gtk app is transparent in 12.04 but not transparent in =>12.10, anybody wants to help me?
[16:33] <threex5> I tried to run system-config-printer from a terminal but command wasn't found
[16:33] <ross`> apt-get install or apt-cache search says there is no flashplugin-installer
[16:33] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: you use Chrome and DDG... odd. </ot>
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah, change the search engine in settings and off you go
[16:34] <loren> Channel list (freenode) hangs.  Will not scroll list.
[16:34] <Blacklite_> ross: that's because it's a metapackage
[16:34] <Blacklite_> *derp
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> ross`: the restricted-extras will install flash for you
[16:34] <Rabblerouser> Bah.. how do I remove the proprietary AMD driver? it apparently isn't located in /usr/share/fglrx
[16:34] <ross`> ActionParsnip: how do i install restricted extras from cli
[16:34] <ross`> unity is giving me a heart attac
[16:34] <ross`> attack
[16:37] <threex5> nevermind I ran it again and it worked
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> ross`: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:38] <ross`> you guys needed to tell me to add multiverse...
[16:38] <Rabblerouser> Nm. Found it. It wasn't in /usr/share/fglrx, it was in /usr/share/fglrx/ati
[16:38] <ross`> i asked if i needed to change my apt sources, and you said no
[16:39] <Rabblerouser> Or not
[16:40] <MK``> how do I flush my DNS cache on ubuntu?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> MK``  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html
[16:41] <^chris> >2012++
[16:41] <^chris> >using ubuntu
[16:41] <MK``> thanks
[16:41] <^chris> no problem
[16:41] <loren> Runnng File Roller 3.4.1 in Ubuntu 12.04.  Want to send archive file to Samba file.  The file displays in Nautilus, but can't see as a destination in Archive Manager.  Need help.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> MK``  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127169
[16:42] <memand1> MK``: flush dns cache ubuntu
[16:42] <memand1> MK``: http://bit.ly/14rUkjA
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> ross`: I never replied to the question personally, wasn't aware it was needed either. Sorry
[16:43] <MK``> memand1 we're not all antisocial :P
[16:43] <ross`> ActionParsnip: not blaming you, i expect this level of gui on support from ubuntu.
[16:43] <memand1> MK``: I know, but come on ;)
[16:43] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: those links are hilarious.  to "flush cache" you need to restart a daemon that isn't installed by default...  i don't think that really makes sense, do you?
[16:43] <MK``> yeah really
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> memand1  please do not use that link here, it's rude
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> ross`: not unreasonable
[16:43] <MK``> Just trying to get pidgin to work again X)
[16:44] <DJones> !google > memand1
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> MK``: I love pidgin
[16:44] <ross`> ActionParsnip: personally i prefer the cli for package installation, so i asked the proper question which source do i need. The answer which the GUI told me was multiverse.
[16:44] <memand1> Ok, I'm soooory :(
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ross`: yeah the reply when stuff needs extra sources isn't great, although the package-not-found reply for available packages is pretty coolio
[16:44] <piglit> what is a good program to Anallise where your disk space is going ?
[16:45] <ross`> ActionParsnip: yea, but it didn't have a suggestion for this particular package
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> GitNick: seacrch in dash for disk analyser
[16:45] <ross`> it just said didn't exist
[16:45] <DJones> piglit: Disk usage analyser
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ross`: d'oh
[16:45] <ross`> thank you for your help tho
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ross`: I try, thanks for being cool
[16:45] <piglit> ok thanks
[16:45] <zykotick9> piglit: from terminal, ncdu is kinda handy
[16:45] <ross`> ActionParsnip:
[16:46] <ross`> oops
[16:46] <ross`> afk
[16:46] <MK``> apparently this works: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean
[16:47] <phoenixsampras1> hi?
[16:47] <phoenixsampras1> jezz ubuntu mirros kinda slow
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: tried a different source?
[16:49] <zerm> Hey. My freshly set-up system keeps crashing/freezing/rebooting. I'd like to figure out the cause for this, so
[16:49] <zerm> how can i enable kernel debugging? i do not want automatic reboot. i want a kernel debugger console or whatever
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> zerm: I suggest you test RAM using Memtest86+ from Grub as a starting point#
[16:50] <zerm> if linux/ubuntu kills a process (happened before because heavy swapping), does it log this action somewhere?
[16:50] <hilo> hello I've got a remote Ubuntu Desktop headless system which I access with VNC. The resolution on the remote DT is 800x600 and I cannot get it to go higher making many programs unusable. Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher on a headless Ubuntu Desktop (32 bit 10.04)
[16:50] <phoenixsampras1> apt-get upgrade-distro aint working
[16:50] <zerm> ActionParsnip, I suspect the heavy I/O I am doing with a SAS controller/network that this might cause the problem
[16:51] <zykotick9> zerm: a process could die (check it's logs) but the kernel isn't going to "kill" anything unless you ask it too.
[16:51] <uplinx> phoenixsampras1, apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:51] <phoenixsampras1> uplinx: thanks!
[16:51] <uplinx> phoenixsampras1, np
[16:52] <zerm> zykotick9, that's what i thought. but that's not happening. e.g. i had a python process where I had a bug causing severe memory consumption. after 5 minutes swapping, the process miriculously terminated without any notice. maybe that's python's behavior, though
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: if you read the man page rather than trying to guess commands, you'll win
[16:53] <zykotick9> zerm: that's not the kernel killing it...
[16:53] <phoenixsampras1> i need to develop 2 more eyes
[16:53] <zerm> right now my load went up to 9, which cpu was aroun .3 -- that might be fine because it does a lot i/o waiting. but suddenly, the whole computer froze, and then rebooted itself
[16:53] <zerm> s/which/with
[16:53] <wjtaylor_> where is the window manager settings in 12.04?   I want to enable roll-up. (Gnome classic)
[16:54] <threex5> is there a key command in gnome to pop open a nautilus window?
[16:54] <zerm> zykotick9, ok, might be python itself then. thanks.
[16:54] <zerm> but i definitely do not want an automatic reboot, for no reason, never. who did this to me?
[16:56] <Kurukuru> test
[16:57] <Kurukuru> Are there any distros which use usplash by default? I want to install Ubuntu on an EEEPC 904HD I have but I don't like Plymouth and I have a Usplash theme I want to use
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> !info usplash
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Kurukuru: why do you care so much, its a boot splash....
[16:58] <Kurukuru> Just a customisation freak
[16:58] <piglit> is virtualbox still the firtual machine to use or is it a other one at this time?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> threex5: you could use compiz to run the command when you press a shortcut combo
[16:58] <fogobogo> piglit: depends on what you want/need
[16:58] <memand> zerm: If you have some python code that goes into a infinite loop that eats memory and the interpreter for some reasson does not catch that it is an unhealty loop if can cause the system to freeze, and I guess in some casses reboot (on my system it just logged out)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> piglit: what is 'firtual'?
[16:59] <piglit> fogobo: well first of all i need a easy install as i dont have much time
[16:59] <piglit> i need to test some labview things in XP
[16:59] <piglit> and it would be great if i could use usb
[16:59] <zerm> memand, well. i think i have fixed that issue with the python script. still, it should never ever reboot my machine
[16:59] <fogobogo> then try vbox
[17:00] <piglit> but if it takes too much time i can do without usb
[17:00] <lorddelta> respectfully...what is the issue with python-aptdaemon?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> piglit  I have XP in virtualbox, runs nice
[17:00] <memand> zerm: I agree...
[17:00] <piglit> fogobogo: vbox ?= virtualbox?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> piglit: the vbox from the vbox repo has usb access
[17:00] <lorddelta> A bunch of packages were complaining about it this morning; I just ended up building the package I wanted to and installing it manually...
[17:00] <fogobogo> piglit: yes
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> piglit: yes vbox = virtualbox
[17:00] <lorddelta> No problems so far.
[17:00] <piglit> ok thanks you guys are great
[17:00] <zerm> nothing in /var/log/kernel.log -- just a (super fast, at least) reboot
[17:01] <piglit> I can also import virtual machines i have from vmware ?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> piglit  vmdk yes, import
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> piglit: i'd ask in #vmware, I'd imagine so
[17:02] <zerm> humm "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#2 stuck for 21s! [Xorg:1183]" what is that?!
[17:03] <luvs-lightw8> I have a Toshiba Satellite A305D and the media touch keys do not work. This has not been an issue with other flavors of linux. I'm on peppermint. Any ideas?
[17:03] <phoenixsampras1> WTh is doing dist-upgrade... taking hours
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> luvs-lightw8  peppermint is not supported here
[17:03] <luvs-lightw8> Ok
[17:03] <luvs-lightw8> Thanks.
[17:04] <phoenixsampras1> its upgrading python and libreoffice.... again and again
[17:11] <blaamann_b570> Is there a way I can see the crash report that is sent when Firefox crashes for me and the error send dialog appear asking me if I would send the crash report or not?
[17:13] <memand> zerm: Can I ask what you where trying to do in python to cause the crash?
[17:14] <zerm> basically just backup over network share to a SAS-connected tape drive
[17:14] <lonewulf85> Hello everyone I have a question about VMware player.
[17:14] <zerm> computing hashes on the fly, there was my first bug (loaded files fully to memory first). but that's fixed and as long as the backup-source can keep up with the speed, it works just fine
[17:15] <zerm> the panics seem to be related to the BUG soft - lock CPU#2 stall
[17:15] <lonewulf85> I am wondering if I could run XP or Vista in it and have the silerlight capacity?
[17:15] <mibofra_smart> hi :)
[17:15] <zerm> i mean, that looks like a panic. i'm not so super linux expert, i expected some big "PANIC" in a log
[17:16] <zerm> still, it reboots and does not dump the core. i wish i could prevent that
[17:16] <zerm> best would be to drop into kdb or whatever
[17:16] <zerm> is there a sysctl or something?
[17:16] <memand> zerm: I'm not 100% sure what that BUG means, but it does not sound too good
[17:17] <zerm> according to google, there was a bug in the linux kernel 3 years ago with that symtop/error message
[17:17] <zerm> but that's about it
[17:17] <lonewulf85> I am taking a PC class and for one site testout.com I need silverlight I was hoping I could run a VM as a work around.
[17:18] <zerm> could be related to APIC, I read, which makes sense as my interrupts get high and stuff. that SAS controller seams shitty as well
[17:18] <jorik_> рус есть?
[17:18] <ThinkT510> lonewulf85: yes, that would work
[17:18] <memand> Well the Xorg 1183 msg might yield some more info
[17:19] <lonewulf85> ThinkT510: Thank you I was hoping I could I was just unsure as I have never done a Windows guest OS before.
[17:20] <memand> zerm: Are you sure that your computer actually rebooted, I mean did it show the bios boot screen and evertything?
[17:20] <zerm> uptime told me
[17:21] <zerm> ssh connection dropped, i reconnected, uptime is low, all my previously running processes are gone
[17:21] <zerm> didnt want to walk all the stairs up to the computer, but been told that it presents the login screen
[17:21] <zerm> so guess it rebooted
[17:22] <jorik_> чат на рус какой?
[17:22] <memand> I can't find anything yet on that Xorg error, but it sounds like the x server crashed
[17:22] <memand> !ru | jorik_
[17:22] <mibofra_smart> After today upadate , I can't start lightdm . If try with lightdm-session , the error this time is : "x-session-manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_registry_interface
[17:22] <mibofra_smart> what should I do ?
[17:23] <xinglenick> hi, all
[17:24] <mibofra_smart> P.S. the terminal is running ubuntu RR dev branch
[17:24] <ThinkT510> !13.04 | mibofra_smart
[17:25] <xinglenick> I use ubuntu 12.04, How can I find out the file which the env LC_LANGUAGE is set?
[17:25] <zerm> so, sysctl kernel.panic controls after how many second it reboots after a panic. which somebody set to 0 which sucks
[17:25] <mibofra_smart> ThinkT510: you're right :)
[17:25] <belgianguy> I'm trying to create a cronjob, but am getting mails from my server that the permission was denied
[17:25] <belgianguy> /bin/sh: 1: /home/public_html/mysite.com/public/cron/run.php: Permission denied
[17:26] <belgianguy> does that mean the php file needs to be chmoded or that this should be sudo cronjob?
[17:27] <memand> belgianguy: The file needs to be executable for anyone to execute it ;)
[17:27] <teefs> I am getting a weird...thing happening when I try to install haskell-mode, and after it is 'installed' it is broken.  I have tried cleaning the package and reinstalling, I don't know what else to try atm.  Any suggestions?  here is a log of the apt output...you can see the weird garbled crap: https://pastee.org/uf8jj
[17:27] <belgianguy> memand: ah, I'll check that, I had to turn them off as I was getting a mail every minute
[17:27] <xinglenick> generally, how to find out the file which a env variable is set?
[17:28] <memand> belgianguy: chmod +x file.php
[17:28] <memand> zerm: I'm still having a hard time believing that it actually rebooted
[17:28] <jrib> xinglenick: in general, with much frustration :)  What are you looking for?
[17:29] <belgianguy> thanks memand
[17:29] <zerm> memand, yeah, can't help. it did. possibly that f*cking SAS controller because i had similar experiences on a different set-up before (but attributed it to some other reasons back then..)
[17:31] <zerm> will try with noapic boot flag
[17:31] <zerm> and strict panicing
[17:31] <memand> zerm: does this happen often?
[17:31] <zerm> wish me luck, will physically go to the box
[17:31] <memand> lol
[17:31] <xinglenick> my LC_LANGUAGE was changed, and I want to know why it was  changed
[17:32] <zerm> memand, yeah pretty much. that's gonna be the backup managing machine, which makes it ver... delicate
[17:32] <teefs> should I ask in emacs?  it says the package is maintained by ubuntu
[17:33] <memand> zerm: HAve you considered getting another motherboard for that machine then?
[17:33] <jrib> teefs: did you check for bugs on the package at http://bugs.ubuntu.com?
[17:34] <teefs> jrib: I couldn't find any like that
[17:34] <teefs> it's not saying it failed to install, it just spits out crap when it installs
[17:34] <teefs> and then if I load a .hs file, it does not parse correctly and that same stuff is in the minibuffer
[17:35] <jrib> teefs: what same stuff?  lines 28-31?
[17:36] <teefs> jrib: yes
[17:36] <memand> xinglenick: Can you give some more details?
[17:37] <hilo> hello I've got a remote Ubuntu Desktop headless system which I access with VNC. The resolution on the remote DT is 800x600 and I cannot get it to go higher making many programs unusable. Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher on a headless Ubuntu Desktop (32 bit 10.04)
[17:37] <jrib> teefs: read haskell-site-file.el and see if anything looks weird?
[17:39] <z_erm> memand, i'm not sure that it's related to the machine at all. more the SAS controller or tape drive, i guess. Had some (but only some) unexplainable reboots quite a while ago when using a completely different machine
[17:40] <z_erm> now i've set all kernel.panic* sysctls to debugging values, disabled apic, rebooted. let's see. backup will take about 1-2 hours until crash/freeze
[17:41] <xinglenick> memand: i set LC_LANGUAGE to en_US in /etc/default/locale file and ran update-locale, then reboot and login, but i still found the LC_LANGUAGE is set to zh_CN:en_US:en
[17:41] <z_erm> (i wonder how often i can write to the same tape until it wears out :D)
[17:42]  * washuu_de is back (gone 42:28:46)
[17:42] <z_erm> out for dinner until next panic :) thanks guys and have a nice.. whatever you're having right now
[17:42] <guide_X> I have 11.04 and it won't update, i'm not sure how to fix it
[17:43] <ThinkT510> guide_X: 11.04 is no longer supported
[17:43] <guide_X> this is the endless loop it is in as well
[17:43] <guide_X> it says it needs to update and isn't supported, but then can't update
[17:43] <guide_X> is it not possible to update it or?
[17:44] <ThinkT510> guide_X: why didn't you upgrade to a newer release when it was supported?
[17:44] <teefs> jrib: I can't find anything, and ironically, haskell-site-file.el is parsed fine by emacs elisp mode :)
[17:44] <teefs> really weird
[17:44] <xangua> guide_X: open update manager and upgrade to 11.10
[17:44] <guide_X> I did not build it and have only started using it recently, it is a sort of dev/staging server
[17:45] <guide_X> thats when it cannot update
[17:45] <guide_X> it says the program closed unexpectedly
[17:45] <jrib> teefs: you might try redownloading the deb (delete what you have in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ) and installing that to see if it makes a difference.  Might also check the various files for the package in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ .  And finally, you might checkout debsums.  I'm not really sure what's going on :)
[17:46] <teefs> jrib: okay thanks for suggestions.  I'll try those
[17:46] <guide_X> jeez it was only april 2011 when it was released
[17:47] <Castial> well question for anyone using Ubuntu-Gnome, I cant choose Gnome 2d from the login screen, how do I enable it for usage?
[17:47] <guide_X> so isn't there something I can do? it's an important machine
[17:47] <Castial> google seems to be useless here
[17:47] <memand> xangua: Try running locale -a
[17:48] <memand> and check to see that the locale you want is listed there
[17:48] <guest123> hi
[17:48] <xangua> memand: sure, when i know what are you talking about ;)
[17:49] <xinglenick> memand: does it possible to find where LC_LANGUAGE is set ?
[17:49] <ExxKA> Hey guys. Do you know how I can remove all the records in the resolv.conf file, using resolvconf?
[17:49] <memand> xangua: sorry wrong guy :P
[17:49] <Castial> why does it have to be so hard to enable gnome 2d shell
[17:49] <memand> xinglenick: : Try running locale -a
[17:49] <Castial> can I please get some help
[17:49] <memand> and check to see that the locale you want is listed there
[17:51] <guest123> ExxKA, what is resolvconf
[17:52] <ExxKA> guest123, it is a script for editing /etc/resolv.conf with deals with DNS settings
[17:52] <pan__> Hi, how do I change the permission of mounts in /media/$user so that everyone can access them?
[17:52] <ExxKA> pan__, look at your mount settings
[17:53] <pan__> ExxKA: it happens automatically
[17:53] <pan__> nautilus automount
[17:53] <ExxKA> pan__, yes but the access rights and filesystem type is still configured in a mount setting file. I am not a regular ubuntu user, but check fstab
[17:53] <ExxKA> /etc/fstab
[17:54] <pan__> ExxKA: it's not in fstab because it's mounted at runtime
[17:54] <pan__> it's a usb stick
[17:54] <Blacklite_> is ActionParsnip still here?
[17:57] <ExxKA> pan__, I don't know then
[17:58] <jasunto> anyone have nvidia sli experience with ubuntu?
[17:58] <itry> Good Evening! When I do "cryptsetup remove x" it seems to return before it actually freed up x. So the rest of my script fails. Is there a way to make "cryptsetup remove" blocking or some other way to wait until it really finished?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> itry  what code/language?
[18:01] <itry> MonkeyDust: bash
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> itry  maybe the people in #bash can help better
[18:02] <phoenixsampras> hellowzor
[18:02] <phoenixsampras> ok, seems Nvidia drivers worked
[18:03] <itry> MonkeyDust: i can try. but its not really a bash question.
[18:04] <phoenixsampras> a.. are you there?
[18:04] <phoenixsampras> it s was a bro with the name A.....
[18:05] <threex5> is it still possible to set window buttons in gnome fallback? i went to configuration editor > apps > metacity > general > button_layout and tried to change the buttons but nothing happened, even when I logged out and back in.
[18:05] <phoenixsampras> wow 1846 people sleeping
[18:05] <LuizAngioletti> Where do I get reliable information about disks, partitions and fs's?
[18:08] <phoenixsampras> how to autostart apps, when i login?
[18:08] <phoenixsampras> aloha?
[18:08] <contrapunctus> phoenixsampras
[18:09] <phoenixsampras> contrapunctus: hi, how to autostart apps when i login?
[18:09] <LuizAngioletti> phoenixsampras: there is an utility on the dashboard
[18:09] <phoenixsampras> LuizAngioletti: what is the name?
[18:10] <LuizAngioletti> phoenixsampras: I think is something like "session apps"... my system isn't in English, so...
[18:10] <contrapunctus> Not sure for Ubuntu but we have a Session and Startup option under Menu > Settings > Settings Manager in Xubuntu/UbuntuStudio
[18:10] <phoenixsampras> Startup Apps!!!
[18:10] <phoenixsampras> LuizAngioletti: thank you!!
[18:10] <LuizAngioletti> phoenixsampras: there you go. =)
[18:10] <Blacklite_> i'm making an ubuntu remix from scratch. it includes openbox, tint2 and conky (not very creative, i Know,) and it's going to be meant for running Minecraft almost exclusively.  what programs would you suggest?
[18:11] <LuizAngioletti> Blacklite_: I'd suggest *not* minecraft. It sucks the life out of you... =P
[18:11] <Blacklite_> that's not helpful;
[18:11] <LuizAngioletti> Blacklite_: It wasn't meant to be. There is this thing called humor, you know?
[18:11] <boze> lol
[18:11] <Blacklite_> i understand
[18:12] <phoenixsampras> aint Minecraft for skinheads?
[18:12] <Blacklite_> it's just not funny
[18:12] <LuizAngioletti> Blacklite_: sorry then.
[18:12] <contrapunctus> Can someone please tell me how I may select and connect to a network from the CLI?
[18:12] <Blacklite_> it's quite alright.
[18:12] <Blacklite_> wifi-menu
[18:12] <Blacklite_> or ifup <interface>
[18:12] <Blacklite_> the interface is usually eth0
[18:12] <contrapunctus> wifi-menu command not found, Blacklite_
[18:13] <Blacklite_> for ethernet.
[18:13] <nuf0xx_> or wlan0
[18:13] <contrapunctus> I'm using mobile broadband...
[18:13] <Blacklite_> oh. srry, I was thinking about arch
[18:13] <Blacklite_> try ifup wlan0
[18:14] <uplinx> anyone have any luck getting curlftpfs to automount with write privileges for normal users?
[18:14] <contrapunctus> ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[18:14] <nuf0xx_> contrapunctus: see the output of "lspci | grep Network"
[18:14] <jrib> contrapunctus: nmcli
[18:14] <Blacklite_> jrib: good call
[18:14] <nuf0xx_> also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[18:15] <contrapunctus> nuf0xx_ - lspci | grep Network 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[18:15] <Blacklite_> I have the same one!!!
[18:15] <Blacklite_> brothers!!!!
[18:15] <nuf0xx_> contrapunctus: now iwconfig
[18:17] <phoenixsampras> Jezzz, UBUNTU is slo SLOW, when copying 114 Gb
[18:17] <contrapunctus> nuf0xx_ why do we need that?
[18:17] <slashrun> Hello all, could someone tell me if ubuntu supports SSD hard drives out of the box.  Will I have to reconfigure it in someway to keep the drive from being prematurely worn out like I have to do in some cases on windows.
[18:17] <phoenixsampras> how to decrease the CPU priority on file copying?
[18:17] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, ?? dont be such noob
[18:18] <contrapunctus> jrib's suggestion works. nmcli con to see your connection's UUID
[18:18] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: sorry, im new with ubuntu 12.10
[18:18] <contrapunctus> nmcli con up uuid <uuid> or nmcli con up id <name> connects
[18:18] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, np...sry to be roode..just comming from ql channel
[18:19] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, u tried with simple mv command..try man mv
[18:19] <phoenixsampras> ql? quick lunch?
[18:19] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: well im moving using nautilus i think
[18:19] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, no from quake :/
[18:19] <nuf0xx_> just making sure you card is configured
[18:20] <threex5> found it! In dconf-editor > org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences
[18:20] <lorddelta> Apart from the aptdaemon thing, I must say I'm happy with how stable this system has become since sticking to LTS release.
[18:20] <kzolotarov> greetings!
[18:20] <foma> I just did an apt-get on nmcli and it wasn't found, where can I get it?
[18:20] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, 114 gb is big chunk...try to get familiar with cli with all big operation's
[18:21] <phoenixsampras> alright
[18:21] <phoenixsampras> cancelling the noob nautilis
[18:21] <lorddelta> Perhaps I should be asking in dev channel about the aptdaemon issue?
[18:21] <indieross> slashrun, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[18:22] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, no it is not noob...just the graphical way is sometimes slow...but major concerns is speed of your dist
[18:22] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, disk^^^
[18:22] <foma> What is this COD? calling people noobs?
[18:23] <drag0nius> how to change www-data user's umask?
[18:23] <drag0nius> i want to give group all permissions
[18:23] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: ok did the MV stuff... waiting
[18:23] <bogi-> foma, i apoliggating for that
[18:24] <bogi-> foma, uh misspelled word...
[18:25] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, u get move that once in a year...
[18:25] <slashrun> indieross: This is exactly what I needed, thank you for your help.
[18:28] <ignerous> how to customize panel clock applet date over time in ubuntu 12.10?
[18:28] <loren> Can't send archive file to Samba file
[18:28] <teefs> jrib: I found some strange ctl chars in the el files that I didn't see before, I removed them...is there a way to get these recompiled and installed without apt overwriting them?
[18:30] <elijah> How do I find out the current version of Netbeans available in Ubuntu's repo? I am on 7.1.1 and 7.2 is available but I cannot get it through updates.
[18:30] <tripelb> Grub is not right. Now knows there are two systems on HD, but not about the third. And LiveCD cannot see any OS's on the HD. On boot I have the choice of windows or ububtu. The ububtu says incomplete install. How do I proceed?
[18:30] <jrib> teefs: did you check if they are like that in a newly downloaded package?
[18:30] <trism> ignerous: you want a custom datetime format in the clock indicator? you can configure that in dconf-editor, com/canonical/indicator/datetime custom-time-format, and setting time-format to custom
[18:31]  * tripelb changes nick to help me**3
[18:31] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, did u move file's?
[18:31] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: slowly.... seems its moving
[18:32] <ignerous> trism: i want like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/how-to-customize-the-clock-applet-in-ubuntu
[18:32] <elijah> How can I find out if I installed Netbeans via apt-get vs a manual install?
[18:32] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, ok..just leave it to finish it...it wont stuck..
[18:32] <phoenixsampras> unable to remove target: Is a directory
[18:33] <trism> ignerous: oh interesting, hadn't seen that, hmm, let me take a look
[18:33] <neuron> can anyone help me out with
[18:33] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[18:34] <neuron> ubuntu 12.04
[18:34] <neuron> desktop
[18:34] <trism> ignerous: it would be the same method I describe above, just with that code, but I do not know if it strips tags now, it might
[18:34] <tripelb> elijah: guessing, use uparrow on terminal for command history.
[18:34] <elijah> tripelb: I installed it a year ago, I don't think my command history goes back that far ;)
[18:34] <neuron> hello
[18:34] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[18:35] <trism> ignerous: yeah it seems to escape tags so that probably won't work anymore without modifying the source code
[18:35] <ignerous> trism: please can you do it
[18:35] <phoenixsampras> installing virtualbox...
[18:35] <neuron> great
[18:35] <phoenixsampras> coz kvm aint that good
[18:35] <neuron> can anyone help me out
[18:36] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[18:36] <neuron> installing atheros driver
[18:36] <neuron> ethernet driver
[18:36] <tripelb> Neurondid you check your LiveCD, as in check the disk integrity at the first text screen. You get it by pressing enter at the first Ubuntu screen with the tinyn stuff below (I call it filmstrip=man in circle)
[18:36] <compdoc> kvm is excellent
[18:36] <neuron> ok
[18:37] <neuron> how does that hep me
[18:37] <neuron> help*
[18:37] <compdoc> just not for local graphics
[18:37] <DJones> !patience | neuron
[18:37] <neuron> sorry for that
[18:37] <keith_> For what reason would a package be available in Debian sid but removed in Quantal? I though Quantal was based on sid?
[18:37] <phoenixsampras> kvm was crashing...
[18:37] <tripelb> neuron: ask all on one line please, I have this situations, am using this Ubuntu, get this, want this... Capiche?
[18:38] <neuron> ok will not make that mistake again
[18:38] <phoenixsampras> help me now!!
[18:38] <phoenixsampras> lol
[18:39] <tripelb> neuron: also ie you are talking to one person, we star the line with their nick so theey can see it in a busy chat. No blame, we all start as beginners.
[18:39] <tripelb> !ask | neuron
[18:39] <ignerous> trism: are you doing it??
[18:39] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, ??
[18:40] <neuron> tripleb : thanks,  now i am checking it first  by live CD and let you guys know
[18:40] <tripelb> neuron: for instance I asked my question about grub and I am waiting.
[18:41] <njd001> missed something
[18:41] <njd001> i'll be bach
[18:41] <keith_> For what reason would a package be available in Debian sid but removed in Quantal? I though Quantal was based on sid?
[18:41] <trism> ignerous: I am looking
[18:43] <phoenixsampras> I have a problem... i get "Ubuntu has encountered a error... report??" every 10 mins
[18:43] <phoenixsampras> internal error
[18:47] <LuizAngioletti> When using 'ldd' I get two different outputs. One has arrows and points to an address (like /lib/foo) and the other shows something like a hex code.
[18:47] <LuizAngioletti> What does the hex code stands for? What does it mean?
[18:48] <Solskogen> Hi! I want to install the 32bit version of libsdl-dev onto my 64bit ubuntu, is that possible with apt?
[18:49] <jrib> Solskogen: yes, you can do that using multiarch
[18:50] <jrib> Solskogen: what version of ubuntu?
[18:50] <Solskogen> jrib: 12.10
[18:50] <bogi-> jrib, TY ...i thought that some stuff i must compile by myself
[18:51] <BrilliantMind> To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track, is acceptable let the partition configuration to the system itself?
[18:51] <Solskogen> jrib: apt-get install libsdl-1.2:i386 will remove a WHOLE lot of stuff - so that is not an option
[18:51] <jrib> Solskogen: umm, what would it remove exactly?
[18:51] <kaserelsanam> good night
[18:51] <BrilliantMind> Greetings! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track, is acceptable let the partition configuration to the system itself?
[18:51] <jrib> Solskogen: and why do you need this 32bit version by the way?
[18:52] <kaserelsanam>  E: Unable to locate package udev-extra
[18:52] <Solskogen> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590417/
[18:52] <uplinx> basic question, does anyone know how to add to your places in nautilus?
[18:52] <Solskogen> jrib: I have an application that I want to compile for both 32bits ubuntu, and 64bits ubuntu. without the need of setting up an additional build machine.
[18:52] <jrib> Solskogen: use pbuilder for that
[18:53] <Solskogen> jrib: that is an additional build machine.
[18:54] <kaserelsanam> how to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well
[18:55] <jrib> Solskogen: if you don't wish to use pbuild or similar, then you will have to figure out why apt wants to remove those packages when you install libsd1.2-dev:i386
[18:55] <evgeniy> Привет Всем
[18:55] <Solskogen> jrib: that's why I'm here :-)
[18:55] <zistor> Привет!
[18:56] <jrib> Solskogen: you can specify the packages it wants to remove explicitly on the install line and apt should be more informative
[18:56] <kaserelsanam> how to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well
[18:57] <ignerous> trism: have you got it?
[18:58] <bogi-> did someone have tips with work with broadcom wifi cards...I cant control wifi well with nm-applet and wierd thing that when searching free AP use a lot of system resources
[18:58] <BrilliantMind> Greetings! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?
[18:58] <kaserelsanam> how to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well
[18:58] <jrib> Solskogen: since libsdl1.2-dev seems to conflic with libsdl-dev my guess would be you have libsdl-dev installed
[18:58] <Solskogen> jrib: well, I want to have them both :-)
[18:58] <jpitts> what would the best way of switching from virtual vmware 12.10 to physical?
[18:59] <BrilliantMind> Anybody can answer this: To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?
[18:59] <jrib> Solskogen: what ubuntu version is this?
[18:59] <foma> lynx
[19:00] <foma> oops wrong window :)
[19:00] <Solskogen> guess I have to setup a 32bit vm :(
[19:00] <BrilliantMind> Guys??? Please!! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?
[19:02] <jrib> Solskogen: what happened when you included the packages to be removed in the install line?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> BrilliantMind  yes, the live cd can do the partitioning, no problem
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> BrilliantMind  is it a ubuntu cd or a backtrack cd? if it's backtrack, type /join #backtrack-linux
[19:03] <ignerous> trism: have you got it?
[19:03] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, thank you for the answer. Ubuntu LiveCD.
[19:04] <tripelb> Grub. Rebuilding grub. Help. Asking for days now. Better change to be the SQUEAKY WHEEL!
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub | tripelb
[19:07] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, Can I move the space bar to let little or bigger, right?
[19:08] <Tecan> anyone else have dvd rom issues sometimes ?
[19:08] <Tecan> my 2 sata drives just stop reading disks after a while
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> BrilliantMind  if you have free space, yes
[19:08] <Tecan> i try ejecting them from nautilus and it sometimes works
[19:08] <bogi-> Tecan, Me too but my dvd is been dearty :D
[19:08] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, Can I move the space bar to let little or bigger, right
[19:09] <bogi-> Tecan, After cleaning work as usual
[19:09] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, Thank you.
[19:10] <local> Where to put bash script for init/startup/.desktop in ubuntu  12.04? I am trying to mess around with an ip address forwarder.
[19:10] <local> in particular trying to forward external ip to my gmail account.
[19:11] <sweettea> Hi guys, long time centos user here. Pondering migration to ubuntu server. Can anyone advise on 12.04 vs 12.10?
[19:11] <sweettea> The primary use will be as a virtd host on amd abu dhabi procs
[19:11] <chriys> how to verify opened port on my network and the one that my ISP blocked ?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> sweettea  #ubuntu-server -- 12.04 has longer support (lts)
[19:11] <compdoc> sweettea, ive tried both and prefer 12.04
[19:11] <jrib> sweettea: 12.04 = support for 5 years, 12.10 = support for 18 months (from release) but has newer software
[19:12] <sweettea> compdoc: on server? I am sorry I should have specified
[19:13] <sweettea> I have joined that channel and asked there
[19:14] <bogi-> sweettea, compdoc, +1 for 12.04 but +10 to stay on centOS
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> Tecan: I can't rip more than 2-3 CD's in a row.  The drive gets hot and stops working.
[19:15] <sweettea> why stay? the virtd binaries are very old
[19:15] <sweettea> its the only reason I am moving to ubuntu
[19:15] <compdoc> bogi-, sweettea, centos is ok, but I switched to Ubuntu from centos and will not go back
[19:15] <bogi-> jhutchins_wk, you need a pro burner then
[19:15] <jhutchins_wk> bogi-: Or maybe just a better location in the case.
[19:16] <sweettea> guys, were talking about servers right
[19:16] <sweettea> ofc I use ubuntu on my laptop
[19:16] <bogi-> jhutchins_wk, yy maybe that too
[19:16] <local> chriys: nmap -PN localhost  ???   or are you talking about your router?
[19:16] <sweettea> my main concern is security
[19:16] <tripelb> jhutchins_wk: thanks. That's what I've been looking for if I didn't already find that in search for_ grub rescue and grub recovery
[19:17] <jrib> sweettea: yes, support includes security updates
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> sweettea: The only real reason to use Centos is to be compatible with RHEL.
[19:18] <neuron> tripelb: I did not find any solution to my problem. Ethernet is not working. I tried to install it from AR8151 package with no success . It says autoconf.h not found
[19:18] <chriys> local: i'm using postfix and the port 25 seems to be blocked by my ISP that's why i can't send email outside of the localnetwork and i'm wondering how to verify the opened one it order to make my postfix listening to it
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> tripelb: Did you get it fixed?
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> neuron: That should be supported by the internal atl1c driver since kernel 2.6.32
[19:21] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: Port 25 is for _inbound_ mail.
[19:21] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: If they block it outbound how are you supposed to use their mailsevers?
[19:22] <chriys> my server won't send or receive
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> Do you use their mailserver?
[19:23] <chriys> jhutchins_wk: i asked this question to myself, by i was told that the port is block and work only with known host wich i found weird
[19:23] <chriys> no i have installed postfix on my ubuntu server
[19:24] <local> chriys: port forward.
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: I realize that that's what you're trying to do, but what do you do for mail now?
[19:24] <chriys> local: on my router? already did
[19:24] <chriys> jhutchins_wk what do you mean
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: Presumably you have some sort of external email account already?
[19:26] <chriys> yes i have
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, what protocols does it use on what ports?
[19:28] <EvanCarroll> ...
[19:28] <EvanCarroll> swappermall swappermall_ swappermall__ swappermall___ swappermall____ a bit excessive, eh? perhaps an IRC proxy would help you out?
[19:32] <friendy> Oh, May I invoke a Linux/Ubuntu Guru to help a windows users, whom cannot return to the realms of Bill n Gates, to help me with a task?
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> EvanCarroll: Or irssi + scren.
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> !ask
[19:33] <chriys> jhutchins i use imap on port 993 with ssl
[19:33] <friendy> My question is quite simple. I am installing Hamachi to my linux machine, I previously attempted to use it in Virtualbox and run the game in Linux, but it has failed, so I am trying to install it to Linux. I have found two-three ways, using ARU, sysvinit, which confuses me being three files, the other from Logmein, but I cannot install lsb. I am using an older version of Ubuntu, but I require the heavenly help of the Guru's of Linux 
[19:33] <friendy> lol
[19:34] <chriys> jhutchins_wk: i use imap on port 993 with ssl
[19:34] <EvanCarroll> friendy: that's not a clear question and it's very apologetic, so you need help isntalling lsb, or Hamachi (which I do not know about)
[19:35] <EvanCarroll> lsb should be in ubuntu-minimal or something to that affect.
[19:35] <keith_> I have a macbook dual booting OSX and Ubuntu. I haven't used OSX in months and would like to remove it. Can I do this safely without any ill effects? I'm concerned if I clear that partition, it will really screw rEFIt up
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> friendy  is that a windows game?
[19:35] <friendy> I have a few files.
[19:36] <friendy> I did within the magical terminal ./install.sh, but it is saying it won't work.
[19:36] <friendy> And I have no clue how to get the sysvinit way to work.
[19:36] <friendy> Yes Monkey, I am trying to get a windows game to work via Hamachi, multiplayer.
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> friendy  in wine, then?
[19:37] <friendy> Yes. The game works perfectly, merely the producers of that game made horrible multiplayer that works perfectly in Ham.
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> friendy  have you asked in #winehq ?
[19:38] <friendy> The Hamachi version, there exists a Linux version of that. It's not the game, its the linux version of Hamachi, which I am having problems installing. One said I needed lsb, but it looks like its on. Another said you can do it a different way, but when I click it, the terminal comes up and dissapears so fast.
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> friendy  i read here, the linux version is beta, so perhaps buggy
[19:40] <friendy> Slightly buggy. I merely request help in getting it installed via the beta-buggy version, or the other way (Another person compiled something or this or that, supposed to be easier to install, because of problems with lsb, and an add on he made later had a gui version).
[19:40] <keith_> I have a macbook dual booting OSX and Ubuntu. I haven't used OSX in months and would like to remove it. Can I do this safely without any ill effects? I'm concerned if I clear that partition, it will really screw rEFIt up
[19:41] <garnet> keith_: Just out of curiosity, what exactly in Ubuntu is better than in OS X?
[19:41] <friendy> If you could help me at all Monkey in figuring out why it won't work, and how to get it to work, it be appreciated.
[19:42] <local> anyone no where to put bash scripts that run on startup?
[19:42] <local> know^
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> friendy  no, i'm not a gamer and not familiar with windows
[19:43] <Lartza> What apt command would show me what package forced an install of another
[19:43] <friendy> But it's not with a windows program, but its with getting something installed, dealing with the terminal and ./install.sh and scripts, not with windows or windows games.
[19:43] <keith_> garnet: Package management. I used to use MacPorts when I was on OSX, but I find that the Debian repos are much larger, and in particular contained a package that I needed and couldn't get to compile on my own. Other than that, the two are not so different
[19:43] <Lartza> Dependency
[19:43] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I upgraded to 12.10 and installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now when I log into a gnome session my graphics settings are all messed up and I have to reapply all of my NVidia settings
[19:43] <phy1729> keith_: I'd put rEFIt on it's own partition then whipe the Mac one perhaps leaving the recovery behind just in case
[19:44] <friendy> Can you at least help me resolve this error when I use the .Deb file? ---Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb-core (>= 3.0) ----
[19:44] <keith_> garnet: Additionally, my next computer will not be a MacBook, and another computer I have is also not made by apple
[19:44] <EvanCarroll> friendy: does Hamachi run under wine? or is it a native linux app?
[19:44] <kvothetech> friendy: install lsb-core version greater than or equal to 3.0
[19:44] <keith_> phy1729: Can I then expand the partition that Ubuntu is on without destroying any other data?
[19:44] <phy1729> depends on the filesystem
[19:45] <friendy> Both. I'm trying to install the linux version. It was made into a native app.
[19:45] <kvothetech> keith_: depends on your hdd filesystem free space in other partitions etc
[19:45] <garnet> keith_: Ubuntu uses ext4. It's easily and safely expandable from LiveCD (USB)
[19:45] <Lartza> apt-cache rdepends package lists all and not only what's installed...
[19:45] <friendy> Kvothetech, where do I install the ones greater or equal? I've found so many links, and when I opend up systenamtic and typed in lsb, everything that was in there was installed.
[19:46] <keith_> kvothetech, garnet, phy1729: thank you all
[19:46] <garnet> I think you can just delete your OS X partition from LiveCD (USB) and expand Ubuntu to fill it up. rEFIt being a EFI boot manager shouldn't become broken
[19:46] <Lartza> For example I have plymouth, libavformat etc installed and I want to know why
[19:46] <kvothetech> friendy: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12905365/lsb-core_3.2-4ubuntu1_i386.deb is the 386 version...
[19:47] <kvothetech> friendy: if you're on a 64 bit install there's probably another one for you but...it's not hard to find.
[19:47] <TLoT> what partition type does /boot need to be, if i make a separate boot sector?
[19:47] <TLoT> s/sector/partition/
[19:47] <friendy> Thank You. And no, not 64. 32 Maverick :).
[19:48] <friendy> Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36)
[19:48] <keith_> garnet: Yes, but the rEFIt stuff is on the OSX partition in /efi
[19:48] <friendy> That just popped up.
[19:48] <TLoT> friendy: are you using Maverick?
[19:48] <friendy> Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36) ---Yeah, I am.
[19:48] <kvothetech> TLoT: depends on your bootloader but usually first 1024 sectors and ext2/3/4 are common...
[19:48] <TLoT> !maverick | friendy
[19:48] <TLoT> just as an FYI
[19:48] <TLoT> kvothetech: okay, i am doing a clean install on a bare drive
[19:48] <TLoT> kvothetech: so first partition, about 100 megs, ext4?
[19:48] <friendy> Does this mean you can not or will not help me now :(?
[19:49] <kvothetech> TLoT: that's more than enough space but yeah....
[19:49] <TLoT> friendy: it means that solving your solution is a bit more tricky
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> kvothetech: gparted can expand partitions if there is available space.  You need to make a backup any time you're messing with partitions though, and it's actually faster once you've made the backup to just repartition & restore.
[19:49] <TLoT> kvothetech: 50MB sufficient?
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> friendy  you're asking for help with a beta system nobody has ever heard of on a ubuntu version that is no longer supported
[19:49] <garnet> keith_: It's a problem then. Anyway, it you are set on deleting OS X why you need rEFIt? You can just install GRUB from LiveCD (USB) on your hdd.
[19:49] <TLoT> friendy: also what MonkeyDust said
[19:49] <kvothetech> friendy: just find the packages with the versions it wants and install them.
[19:50] <friendy> I don't understand? I keep getting dependency stuff, like Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36)  when I followed the link to the lsb and tried installing it.
[19:50] <kvothetech> TLoT: yeah 50mb is fine...mines 20
[19:50] <andai> My computer won't boot. I had a similar problem before. It says there's no disk space, when I deleted stuff it worked fine. This time it continues to say there is no available disk space even when I delete stuff. I tried to check the filesystem but it keeps telling me it's still mounted (when I try to unmount it it tells me it's not mounted)
[19:50] <TLoT> kvothetech: i like keeping a tad extra space, i'll leave it at 50 then :P
[19:51] <TLoT> kvothetech: i used to do this in my sleep, but it was all ext3, since ext4 seems to be the standard nowadays... :P
[19:51] <friendy> As I literally have no clue what packages to which version it wants, it just wants lsb. I got that dependency error when tryin to install that, so...Mhm.
[19:51] <kvothetech> TLoT: yeah cant wait for the few bugs in btrfs to be fixed.
[19:51] <TLoT> friendy: i would suggest upgrading to a more supported release - 10.10
[19:51] <Jpmh> I want to install ubuntu side-by-side with Windoze on a new compaq - problem is that compaq have set 4 partitions (at least I believe this is the problem) and so I have nowhere to install ubuntu - I need an idiots guide on how to expand/change the limit so ubuntu will install
[19:51] <Catbuntu> What happens if I use an unsupported Ubuntu version?
[19:51] <TLoT> 's no longer updated
[19:51] <Catbuntu> For example 10.10
[19:51] <TLoT> Catbuntu: no security updates, repo issues, newer software FTBFS in it...
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:51] <TLoT> etc.
[19:51] <kvothetech> friendly it tells you what version of what it wants when it errors..
[19:52] <Catbuntu> But could I still install thingies from the repos?
[19:52] <andai> concisely: system won't boot, disk claims to be full, remains full when large files deleted, can't check it because it's "mounted", even though I unmount it
[19:52] <TLoT> Catbuntu: only old security-hole-riddled things
[19:52] <TLoT> !eol | Catbuntu
[19:52] <keith_> garnet: Ahh I thought I need it anyway
[19:52] <Catbuntu> thanks
[19:52] <TLoT> Catbuntu: you can use the 'oldreleases' repositories, but...
[19:52] <TLoT> Catbuntu: i strongly advise you use asupported softwrae
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Need to boot to a different disk.
[19:52] <tigran> How can I move the min/max/close buttons to the left side in Unity/12.10? Or is this theme specific and not configurable?
[19:52] <kvothetech> friendy: linux is  a lot like bsd in that the core packages and stuff need to be versioned around each other so it all works stabley...
[19:52] <Catbuntu> yep
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Rescue disk
[19:53] <Catbuntu> I don't really like Unity.
[19:53] <garnet> keith_: My personal advice is simply not to waste your time and stick to OS X.
[19:53] <friendy> I am using Maverick...
[19:53] <kvothetech> Catbuntu: so don't use it.
[19:53] <Catbuntu> And nothing is lovely as Gnome 2 :(
[19:53] <andai> jhutchins_wk: It's a laptop. I have no different disk. Should I install ubuntu to a USB stick?
[19:53] <friendy> i would upgrade, but I got no USB or CD to use, unless they're is a third way.
[19:53] <Catbuntu> I'm using Cinnamon now
[19:53]  * jhutchins_wk goes to the web to look up Maveric...
[19:53] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Yes, that should work.
[19:54] <kvothetech> friendy: you can update from a previous version just do dist-upgrade...or change the repo's do an update then upgrade...
[19:54] <andai> jhutchins_wk: When I have that set up, how do I fix it?
[19:54] <friendy> Well, I kinda would. But when I did Sudo apt-get update n the stuff
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> andai: It's possible you have run out of inodes (df -i would show you).
[19:54] <kvothetech> friendy: note that second way you may want to do 1 release updateat a time and test what broke fix it then do it again...
[19:54] <friendy> IT just, kinda, said failed to fetch files
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: The problem would appear to be that the package you're trying to install is not compatible with that older version of Ubuntu.
[19:54] <Catbuntu> Which is the more Gnome2-like desktop environment?
[19:54] <Catbuntu> (not MATE)
[19:54] <friendy> I see.
[19:55] <friendy> If I upgrade, it won't screw up my system, will it?
[19:55] <andai> jhutchins_wk: I'll check
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: There's always that chance <grin>.
[19:55] <Lartza> Why is apt-get listing me crazy unmet dependencies? Like libkatepartinterfaces4, which I do not have? Trying to remove plymouth
[19:55] <kvothetech> friendy: usually it breaks a few things here and there but nothing unfixable
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: Don't go directly from 10.10 to 12.10 though, step through each version.
[19:55] <friendy> Alright. I'll try upgrading then. Do I use the terminal or the GUI update tool? OR does not matter?
[19:55] <kvothetech> Catbuntu: gnome3 in the old view mode
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> !upgrade
[19:55] <kvothetech> friendy: i use the terminal....but you can use whatever you want.
[19:56] <friendy> Alright, how do I go to each step without a total skip to 12.10? OR does it do it for me, going by through each step?
[19:56] <Catbuntu> kvothetech, that worked fine on 12.04.
[19:56] <andai> jhutchins_wk: 3% IUSE
[19:56] <kvothetech> friendy: when you do the update it'll tell you.
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: You need to do each step.  Basically you change the sources.list to the next version name, update, upgrade, repeat.
[19:56] <andai> jhutchins_wk: interestingly, they all return the same number ( cause they're on the same drive? )
[19:56] <Catbuntu> But on 12.10, when I click the window name on the window list, it just gets... highlighted?
[19:56] <Catbuntu> Using the Ambiance and Radiance themes.
[19:57] <friendy> Upgrade to 10.04 then.
[19:57] <Catbuntu> I think it's related to its new thingies and murrine engine.
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> friendy  upgrading to each following version would take forever
[19:57] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: warning, ubuntu doesn't use source.list to update to a new version!  friendy
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> MonkeyDust: it's not safe to jump major versions.
[19:57] <kvothetech> MonkeyDust: eh you don't have to but it doesn't take that much extra time and that way he can fix what broke in each update as he goes along
[19:57] <Catbuntu> Well, I'll see
[19:57] <Catbuntu> Bye
[19:58] <friendy> I got good net, though...Alright, I'm about to use the GUI tool to upgrade. Can I keep Skype/Games/Browser up while updating, or close everything, and do I go from version to version.
[19:58] <kvothetech> MonkeyDust: and he's not stuck with 100 bugs at once.
[19:58] <friendy> And restart after each update?
[19:58] <kvothetech> friendy: you don't have to.
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: Yes.  Please do read those guides before you start though..
[19:58] <friendy> Guides?
[19:59] <friendy> I thought it was as simple as pressing a button, and it's all upgraded n nice ?
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> kvothetech: Need to keep the system in sync with the kernel.
[19:59] <friendy> syn with kernel? Confused...
[19:59] <andai> jhutchins_wk: I tried to e2fsck the drive, it says device does not exist
[19:59] <andai> D:
[19:59] <kvothetech> jhutchins_wk: you don't have to restart to use a new kernel...eassiest method maybe but you don't have to.
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> andai: fdisk -l
[19:59] <friendy> Alright, upgradin now :)
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> andai: maybe it's called something else when booted to the USB>
[20:00] <andai> jhutchins_wk: cannot open /proc/partitions
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> kvothetech: Hot patching a kernel is not usually within the average users's ability.
[20:00] <andai> jhutchins_wk: i'm not on USB yet, i'm trying to find it
[20:00] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: andai you need to use "sudo fdisk -l" to see anything.  sidenote "sudo parted -l" has better support.
[20:01] <tigran> How can I move the min/max/close buttons to the left side in Unity/12.10? Or is this theme specific and not configurable?
[20:01] <andai> zykotick9: thanks
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Yeah, you do need to boot to the USB.
[20:02] <andai> zykotick9: parted -l, no output. parted, "error: no device found"
[20:02] <andai> Yeah, i'm screwed
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: Yeah, I always forget sudo.
[20:02] <andai> can i use an ancient ubuntu cd
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: fdisk is quick and easy (and what I remember).
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> andai: What filesystem?
[20:03] <escott> andai, are you in a chroot?
[20:03] <mir_> hi
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> escott: He's on a corrupted system.
[20:04] <UlyssesGa> Hi there!  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).
[20:04] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i hear you!  i feel like i've "grown up" with fdisk.  for a laugh, read "man fdisk" on a debian system, and the "BUGS" section at the very bottom - VERY informative, including "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things", and suggests using fdisk as a last resort.
[20:04] <escott> jhutchins_wk, but that shouldnt prevent a file like /proc/partitions from existing
[20:05] <zink> hi all, simple question, but when I find downloads on launchpad, can I apt-get install them or do I have to download them and install manually?
[20:05] <andai> escott: I don't know the meaning of the word
[20:05] <andai> jhutchins_wk: ext4
[20:06] <andai> I found a 512mb usb stick. Looks like I'm using DSL
[20:06] <escott> andai, is anything listed with ls /proc?
[20:07] <andai> escott: lemmecheck
[20:07] <andai> escott: no
[20:07] <UlyssesGa> If Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.
[20:07] <escott> andai, can you paste the output of "mount"
[20:08] <escott> andai, in particular i want to know if proc is mounted on /proc and sysfs on /sys and udev on /dev
[20:09] <TLoT> what evil is this?  "The installer crashed!"
[20:09] <TLoT> in LTS! o.o
[20:09] <andai> escott: Yes, all of those
[20:10] <escott> andai, if proc is mounted on /proc then something should be listed in /proc
[20:10] <andai> escott: Yeah, well, as previously mentioned, nothing is behaving as expected :P
[20:12] <escott> andai, you are going to have to dig through dmesg to figure out what is going on
[20:12] <andai> escott: I haven't used linux in years, now I remember why :D
[20:13] <andai> escott: although I'm pretty sure the laptop's hard drive is just dying
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> andai: escott means well, but the first thing to do is to boot to some other media and check the disk.
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> andai: The problem with "really old debian" is that it may not support ext4
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> andai: or you said really old ubuntu - same deal.
[20:15] <andai> jhutchins_wk: Oh you just reminded me where I moved them, thank you :D
[20:15] <jhutchins_wk> andai: You don't have another system that you can use to download a newer rescue disk?
[20:15] <JonEdney> Is there a graphical way to monitor resource usage such as RAM, on Ubuntu Destkop?
[20:15] <andai> jhutchins_wk: I could mount it in Virtualbox and then install it to USB, but that would still have to be DSL or puppy cause it's a tiny USB
[20:16] <malkauns> JonEdney, ksysguard
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> andai: No cds?
[20:16] <sakkemo> Hi, would this be sensible for HDD+SSD setup? SSD: / and /home, HDD: swap (for hibernate), /home subfolders (Downloads, Videos etc.), which would be mounted in /home.
[20:16] <andai> jhutchins_wk: let me see if i can find the old ubuntu CDs
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> JonEdney: ksysguard for kde, there are a bunch of different monitors.
[20:17] <JonEdney> Ty for the recommendation, malkauns
[20:17] <malkauns> np
[20:18] <CT1> Hi. Using Chrome with the pepper flash plugin.  With the adobe plugin I could find the "(deleted)" video streams using "lsof | grep Flash" for example.  With the pepper api it seems I need root to lsof and therefore open said files in /proc/$pid$/fd/ (which now belong to root.)  That's all fine if I wan't to wait for the stream to fully buffer then cp and chown, my problem is I use it for audio sync.  I run vlc /proc/pid/fd/x and watch while it b
[20:18] <andai> jhutchins_wk: you helped me find a DVD with some music my friend burned for me a few years ago. Thank you!
[20:18] <jrib> JonEdney: gnome-system-monitor
[20:19] <andai> does ubuntu still send people install CDs?
[20:19] <andai> :D
[20:20] <andai> jhutchins_wk: ok i found 7.04 I'll see if it runs :D
[20:20] <xangua> andai: only if you buy them
[20:21] <andai> xangua: They used to be free, though, right?
[20:21] <andai> Oh... So I'm booting 7.04... but ext4 was released in 2008, right?
[20:21] <andai> can I upgrade the package I need to check the drive from the live-CD, like into RAM?
[20:22] <xangua> andai: yeah...free for you, not for them :P you always had the option to buy them
[20:24] <andai> I guess they stopped shipping them when demand grew exponentially? :D
[20:24] <andai> ohh that was only in late 2011
[20:24] <eXcAliBuR> i'm trying to set a static ip the way I always have before editing the interfaces file, however it won't bring up the interface, using the latest ubuntu server
[20:25] <andai> jhutchins_wk: oh god, the liveCD can't boot either, X fails to start
[20:25] <andai> jhutchins_wk: that was the first/main problem, I noticed the thing with the drive later
[20:26] <andai> it might just be that the graphics card didn't exist when this live CD was created?
[20:26] <andai> :/
[20:28] <CT1> Should I ask my question in vlc, chrome, chromium, some kernel switches, adobe.... support instead? I don't know where to start (after trying to google keywords I thought would lead me on the right path)
[20:30] <CT1> Perhaps a better question... Where can I read up on how an app launched as "me" can spawn processes that are owned by root?
[20:31] <CT1> *by "me"
[20:31] <jrib> CT1: why...?
[20:31] <skorpio> is it possible to install vlc 2.0 under lucid?
[20:32] <jrib> !info vlc lucid
[20:32] <CT1> jrib: Did you see my original Q? should I pm you?
[20:32] <jrib> skorpio: I would be surprised if you couldn't find a ppa for it
[20:32] <jrib> CT1: just repeat it here
[20:33] <CT1> Hi. Using Chrome with the pepper flash plugin.  With the adobe plugin I could find the "(deleted)" video streams using "lsof | grep Flash" for example.  With the pepper api it seems I need root to lsof and therefore open said files in /proc/pid/fd/ (which now belong to root.)  That's all fine if I want to wait for the stream to fully buffer then cp and chown, my problem is I use it for audio sync.  I run vlc /proc/pid/fd/x and watch while it buff
[20:33] <skorpio> jrib: that seams to be the problem.. those i found dont contain 2.0
[20:34] <droidboi> I am trying to get the XMonad window manager to work
[20:34] <droidboi> Sadly, on re-lgin I still get gnome
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> CT1  i guess the people in #ubuntustudio are more familiar with that sort of issues
[20:35] <jrib> droidboi: install xmonad, select xmonad from the session list at the login screen
[20:36] <droidboi> jrib: I pretty much did all that
[20:36] <jrib> droidboi: what did you select at the login screen?
[20:36] <jrib> CT1: can't you cp as your user?
[20:37] <droidboi> jrib: actually, I am running Mint 11 - and I make the Window Manager selection using the Login Admin Tool
[20:37] <CT1> MonkeyDust: Perhaps.  Just that there are far more people here. New users or not, there's always been an almost 100% success rate in here for me (from "noob" to mild enthusiast)
[20:37] <jrib> skorpio: is there a reason you don't just upgrade to precise (12.04) since lucid will be unsupported by april anyway?  I also don't see a lucid ppa for vlc 2.  It could be that the dependencies are not satisfied for it (guess)
[20:37] <jrib> !mint | droidboi
[20:38] <bipul> http://pastebin.com/9diCpsHU Any one know why i am getting this warning.
[20:39] <skorpio> jrib: yea i dont like gnome3 yet
[20:39] <eXcAliBuR> hahaha i found my error
[20:39] <jrib> skorpio: you can use gnome fallback (or classic; I forget what it's name).  You can also try lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[20:39] <droidboi> jrib: OK, Thx
[20:40] <eXcAliBuR> I tried giving an ip of 256
[20:40] <eXcAliBuR> :P
[20:40] <CT1> jrib: I can, but only as root (when using googles' pepper flash) With adobe "old" flash plugin the /proc/pid/fd/* files are belong to us.  As I said, I can find where the locally stored flash video is stored with pepper, but can't directly launch vlc to play it while it buff's.
[20:41] <jrib> CT1: what are the permissions on it?
[20:41] <skorpio> jrib: yea i was thinking about xubuntu but actually just need a quick sollution to play .smil videos...
[20:42] <jrib> skorpio: I don't know what those are, but maybe try mplayer
[20:43] <CT1> the PID is my user, but even doing an lsof -p PID  doesn't show the (deleted) files.  I need to sudo lsof.  I can't even cd to the /proc/PID/fd directory as me.  All my files are belong to root (forgive the second reference to "all your base")
[20:45] <jpitts> anyone else having startup issues with dropbox and 12.10?
[20:48] <kingbeast> good day everyone
[20:50] <kingbeast> was there a net-split or something?
[20:50] <CT1> I'm not completely stuck (I can simply disable googles' pepper flash in about:plugins and use adobe, which I CAN then see the (deleted) files in /proc/pid/fd and use them without privilege elevation) I'm simply curious about how the pepper plugin can command such power over me.  Also adobe will not be upgrading for linux, only security patches will be handed our way.  I wanted to adopt googles pepper flash early with that in mind, yet still keep 
[20:51] <coz_> does anyone have solutions for the screen flickering in 12.04 and 12.10 with nouveau each time an application is opened and closed? I have pretty   much exhausted online bug reports etc
[20:51] <jorgp> anyone else having startup issues with dropbox and 12.10?
[20:53] <jrib> CT1: yeah, I don't know.  Seems strange
[20:54] <three18ti> how can I split really long host names in the named config file?  I'm running into this issue http://razzed.com/2009/03/05/dkim-txt-records-in-dns-exceeding-255-characters/ except in my case, it's really long host names
[20:56] <markovh> any screenshot software out there that'll let me drag a box around the screen to take a screenshot of that?
[20:56] <Mind_> I have a HP 1TB AMD 3800 with Radeon and I am a little confuse about what torrent choose: AMD64 or i86. Who can tell me this?
[20:57] <kingbeast> Mind_: how much Ram do you have in it?
[20:57] <Mind_> kingbeast, 6GB and I have sure that my system is 64bit..
[20:57] <Ben64> then choose 64
[20:57] <kingbeast> Mind_: get the amd64
[20:58] <Mind_> Thank you guys..
[20:58] <kingbeast> np Mind_
[20:59] <markovh> nvm btw, shutter seems to be what i'm looking for
[20:59] <CT1> jrib: It's a daunting task when you don't grok at least some of the layers (or how it's layered for that matter) of a GNU/Linux system.  Is it a kernel thing? I had the same frustration getting an IR controller to work:  Where does X fit, where the kernel, is it a gnome thing... etc...  Thankfully it's all becoming easier for us "enthusiasts" but is it therefore becoming that oh so much more complex when things "break"? rhetorical question of cou
[21:00] <xzased> does anyone know if I can check to protocol (static or dhcp) from the ip or ifconfig command?
[21:03] <Mind_> One more thing. I am now bootted with livecd 12.04 and i have back track in dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10 crashed. If a take the live cd and try use to burn the download i will can or not?
[21:03] <Mind_> One more thing. I am now bootted with livecd 12.04 and i have back track in dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10 crashed. If I remove the live cd and try use to burn the download i will can or not?
[21:05] <kingbeast> Mind_: idk I have never tried it that way
[21:08] <kittenmittens> mm hello ::)
[21:08] <Mind_> kingbeast, I do not know if have the possibility of still "trying" the ubuntu and remove the live cd to use my DVD driver to create the image to boot!
[21:08] <kittenmittens> in the middle of reinstalling windows, no luck with ubuntu
[21:09] <kingbeast> Mind_: I believe it will tell you to reinsert the boot disk
[21:09] <kittenmittens> is there a program i can use to creat an iso of a disk?
[21:10] <kittenmittens> anyone?
[21:10] <genoobie> okay
[21:10] <genoobie> I give up
[21:11] <kittenmittens> what are you giving up on geniibie
[21:11] <genoobie> kittenmittens, I am trying to install lubuntu
[21:11] <kittenmittens> mm?
[21:11] <genoobie> brb sorry
[21:13] <Mind_> kingbeast: Probably! I tried in the backtrack but I still cannot. the image is created in dvd and does not boot! I do not know what happened.
[21:15] <kingbeast> Mind_: use another computer to download it if you have access to another one.
[21:15] <bekks> Mind_: Did you burn the image or did you create a new data dvd with the image file as its content?
[21:16] <kittenmittens> i need a program that will let me make an iso of a disk please
[21:16] <bekks> kittenmittens: dd
[21:16] <kittenmittens> ?
[21:17] <bekks> kittenmittens: The program name is "dd".
[21:17] <bekks> kittenmittens: Using dd, you can create an iso image when having a cd/dvd disk.
[21:18] <Mind_> bekks: I know that have to choose, but, the program maybe do not make the content.. Did not show this in menu and in nowhere!
[21:18] <Mind_> kingbeast: I do not!
[21:18] <bekks> Mind_: So which program did you use?
[21:20] <genoobie> kittenmittens, sorry I had a family thing for a min
[21:20] <genoobie> well the basic idea is this
[21:20] <genoobie> 12.10 lubuntu install fails to recog vga hardware
[21:20] <genoobie> xubuntu livecd 12.04 works OK
[21:20] <genoobie> so what gives?
[21:20] <Mind_> bekks: The name is: CD and DVD CREATOR. the icon of the program is a little pen drive. I have it in back track KDE.
[21:20] <nomodeset> Are ther any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04?
[21:21] <genoobie> kittenmittens, that's the issue
[21:21] <bekks> Mind_: I never used backtrack, sorry. I guess there is some "Help" or "About" menu entry when starting that application.
[21:21] <nomodeset> sure!
[21:22] <nomodeset> Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04?
[21:23] <Billybeagle> so im having sftp problems connecting to my ubuntu 12.04 server.          I had it all set up yesterday with a sftponly user and uploaded my site. Now im getting can not connect to host in dreamweaver. however my primary root user account can connect to host.
[21:23] <Mind_> bekks: Do not have this there! I will try again and see. Thank you for the support!
[21:23] <nomodeset> Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please
[21:26] <Seven_Six_Two> what is the envelope called that holds social stuff in unity?
[21:26] <erinem1> Alguém fala Português BRasil aqui ?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[21:28] <trism> Seven_Six_Two: indicator-messages
[21:28] <Seven_Six_Two> trism, thanks
[21:28] <kittenmittens> oh ffs
[21:28] <Mind_> kengbeast: I removed the LiveCD and is working normally! Weird? Maybe.. LOL
[21:28] <kittenmittens> nothings working
[21:28] <nomodeset> Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please
[21:29] <kittenmittens> litterally not a single program to make a fucking iso either
[21:29] <h00k> kittenmittens: please keep the language appropriate
[21:30] <nomodeset> kittenmittens: please keep the language appropriate
[21:30] <kittenmittens> im just failing to see how ubuntu is better than windows in anyway
[21:31] <Mind_> erinem: Eu falo.. And you.. Do not speak in english dumbass?
[21:31] <Mind_> LOL
[21:31] <nomodeset> Mind_: please keep the language appropriate
[21:31] <mojtaba> Hi
[21:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I had removed empathy when I first upgraded to 12.10 because it kept crashing. I've just reinstalled it, but it's not included in indicator menu. Is there another package that I should install? I don't see empathy-indicator
[21:31] <nomodeset> kittenmittens: and easier
[21:31] <Mind_> nomodeset: Sorry!
[21:32] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[21:32] <ironhalik> Seven_Six_Two: I think you need to run it at least once from the dash
[21:32] <Seven_Six_Two> ironhalik, it's running now
[21:32] <_helios_> kittenmittens: Ubuntu is 100x better than Windows for many reasons probably to many to list in this channel.
[21:32] <nomodeset> _helios_: I agree
[21:32] <kittenmittens> im jsut not seeing it.. because windows is more stable.. has infinitly more support hardware wise and software..
[21:33] <Seven_Six_Two> ironhalik, only gwibber and thunderbird are listed in indicator menu. maybe I have to log out?
[21:33] <ironhalik> Seven_Six_Two: should get autoadded to messeging menu after first run. If it did not, I'm clueless
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> kittenmittens  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[21:33] <nomodeset> kittenmittens: But this is not windows, is hardware support
[21:33] <ironhalik> Seven_Six_Two: you can always try
[21:33] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[21:33] <kittenmittens> windows will start after you install it no matter what, if you install with a clean cd
[21:33] <h00k> kittenmittens: you can use Brasero to create an image of a CD
[21:33] <kittenmittens> no i cant
[21:33] <llutz> !ot  stop that stupid "X is better than Y", OS-Fanboy discussion in offtopic please
[21:34] <h00k> kittenmittens: are you getting some sort of error when you try?
[21:34] <kittenmittens> brasero wants me to make the image file im writing to to be bigger..
[21:34] <nomodeset> llutz: Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please
[21:35] <h00k> kittenmittens: to be bigger than what?
[21:35] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[21:35] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do?
[21:35] <kittenmittens> i dont know
[21:35] <nomodeset> mojtaba: shotdown your machine
[21:35] <mojtaba> register | nomodeset
[21:36] <kittenmittens> just another illogical bug with ubuntu, im installing windows on my pc now, i just need an iso of my drivers disk
[21:36] <mojtaba> !register | nomodeset
[21:36] <kittenmittens> i tryed ubunut ofor over a week, tryed to get it install that is, without messing up and and killing itself
[21:36] <jolaren> trying to find information on however it's dangerous to name a user backup. If perhaps the system already uses this name?
[21:36] <h00k> kittenmittens: I've used Brasero, click "Disc Copy," enter a filename you want it to save to, and it will create an ISO of the disc
[21:36] <nomodeset> ubottu: Why?
[21:37] <kittenmittens> ubottu care to dance?
[21:37] <kittenmittens> ubottu: care to dance?
[21:37] <h00k> Please do not abuse the bot
[21:37] <kittenmittens> im not
[21:37] <llutz> jolaren: at least debian has a user/group named backup
[21:37] <gskellig> The brightness keys do not change the brightness on my laptop with ubuntu 12.10. Fresh install
[21:37] <gskellig> the OSD comes up and goes up and down but the brightness does not change
[21:37] <kittenmittens> ubottu: i hate you i hate you i hate you!
[21:37] <nomodeset> gskellig: drivers
[21:38] <h00k> ubottu: tell kittenmittens about msgthebot
[21:38] <gskellig> nomodeset I haven't been able to find any for it.. Google search at least comes up with nothing
[21:38] <nomodeset> gskellig: you hace to install "Additional Drivers" pack
[21:38] <gskellig> oh alright
[21:38] <gskellig> one sec
[21:38] <llutz> jolaren: getent group backup ; getent passwd backup               to check
[21:38] <jolaren> llutz: hmm.. but when i wrote adduser backup it didn't prompt for errors.. but i had to run passwd after adduser
[21:39] <nomodeset> gskellig: Yeah, i found a forum wich sais that it is no longer in gnome 3
[21:39] <jolaren> llutz: backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh
[21:39] <gskellig> where can I get to the additional drivers?
[21:40] <nomodeset> gskellig: Software center
[21:40] <gskellig> not used to unity
[21:40] <jolaren> llutz: so the group existz in ubuntu,,
[21:40] <przemek> hello do you know
[21:40] <przemek> drac dell default login
[21:40] <przemek> and passworD?
[21:40] <jolaren> llutz: if i added a password to that user on the server.. would it cause thinks that controls the backup to fail?
[21:40] <llutz> jolaren: thats a user you pasted
[21:41] <Mind_> I need open the Download path from livecd and i do not have permission. How can I open it?
[21:41] <jolaren> llutz: oh, so ubuntu has a user named backup
[21:41] <nomodeset> gskellig: Search "Additional drivers" at the software center
[21:42] <llutz> jolaren: the command above should have given you 2 lines output, 1st is a group, 2nd the user
[21:42] <ironhalik> my TP x220 running ubuntu is drawing ~20W of power for some reason
[21:42] <ironhalik> at idle/low load
[21:42] <gskellig> doesnt show up nomodeset
[21:42] <jolaren> llutz: both equals "backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh
[21:43] <nomodeset> run in a terminal "sudo aptitude update"
[21:43] <gskellig> but "ubuntu-drivers-common" is already installed (and updated)
[21:43] <nomodeset> or "sudo apt-get-update"
[21:43] <jolaren> llutz: im afraid that i might have broken some services by setting a password to "backup" user
[21:43] <llutz> jolaren: thats odd, a group shouldn't have a homedir/shell set
[21:43] <nomodeset> gskellig: it does not matter
[21:44] <jolaren> llutz: do you think that's a possability? ^
[21:44] <llutz> jolaren: i'm not sure, but i wonder why you havent got any error/warning when creating the (existing) user
[21:44] <gskellig> still nothing
[21:44] <nomodeset> llutz: it is really extrange
[21:45] <gskellig> ah got it
[21:45] <nomodeset> gskellig: what happend?
[21:46] <gskellig> apt-get was installed not aptitude
[21:46] <gskellig> installed aptitude and updated and it showed up in software center
[21:46] <llutz> !aptitude | gskellig
[21:46] <nomodeset> gskellig: "Addi.. Drivers"?
[21:47] <gskellig> yeah I know what aptitude is -_- lol thanks llutz
[21:47] <nomodeset> ubottu: Are you a bot?
[21:47] <Narel> Hi
[21:47] <gskellig> its installing now, thanks guys
[21:47] <Mind_> I need open the Download path from livecd and i do not have permission. How can I open it?
[21:47] <Narel> I've some problems to build gnash with vaapi support
[21:47] <nomodeset> llutz: you have to pay me!
[21:47] <nomodeset> gskellig: you have to pay me!
[21:48] <llutz> gskellig: if you would have read ubottus msg, you would have seen that its not an explanation of aptitude, its a warning you should be aware of
[21:48] <Narel> I have all dependencies I think, configure is correct but there is an error in make
[21:48] <nomodeset> gskellig: X)
[21:49] <llutz> jolaren: i don't think it breaks things, you just have to be aware of the fact, that the user "backup" is able to login now
[21:49] <nomodeset> ubottu: oh my god
[21:49] <Narel> Hihttp://pastebin.com/Rnwp3j8A
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> nomodeset  stop being funny
[21:49] <llutz> MonkeyDust: where do you see the troll being funny?
[21:49] <Narel> http://pastebin.com/Rnwp3j8A sorry
[21:50] <nomodeset> MonkeyDust: Is OSS not a joke?
[21:50] <Mind_> MonkeyDust: I need open the Download path from livecd and I do not have permission. How can I open it?
[21:50] <nomodeset> llutz: pfff
[21:51] <Narel> Anybody has a solution
[21:51] <Narel> ?
[21:52] <washuu_de> ubottu: tell washuu_de about msgthebot
[21:52] <h00k> Narel: I would talk to the maintainers of gnash and check their documentation
[21:54] <nomodeset> Mind_: You can't!
[21:54] <Narel> yes h00k beacause I want to obtain hardware accel with gnash, I think it's solving hardware accel in all GPUs
[21:55] <Narel> for all GPUs
[21:55] <xubuntu06> hi
[21:56] <xubuntu06> I have an atheros wireless chip which will not un
[21:56] <nomodeset> Mind_: You have to use a live cd
[21:56] <xubuntu06> The Atheros chipset will not run
[21:56] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590886/
[21:57] <fishcooker> i cant change my resolution screen
[21:57] <nomodeset> xubuntu06: is ther any linux driver for it?
[21:57] <fishcooker> is there any solution
[21:57] <xubuntu06> @nomodeset do you want me to post the output of lspci
[21:57] <hplc> nomodeset, isnt there kldload ath?
[21:58] <nomodeset> xubuntu06: you don't have to
[21:59] <nomodeset> fishcooker: there is no enough information
[21:59] <xubuntu06> Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter
[21:59] <fishcooker> what kind of information nomodeset
[21:59] <nomodeset> fishcooker: the problem is ambiguos
[22:00] <xubuntu06> @nomodeset the chip is Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter
[22:00] <fishcooker> i can't change resolution for my box
[22:00] <fishcooker> so i tell you all that my chip is nvidia
[22:01] <fishcooker> because after i can't  change the resolution
[22:01] <fishcooker> it directs to nvdia x server setting
[22:01] <nomodeset> fishcooker: have you installed the propietary driver?
[22:01] <fishcooker> i've installed from apt
[22:01] <nomodeset> fishcooker: You have to run nvidia config
[22:02] <nomodeset> xubuntu06: Install "Additional drivers" from software center
[22:03] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590907/
[22:03] <phoenixsampras> ive been using Fedora, since now than im using Ubuntu, and ive noticed UNITY is SLOW as hell, even i installed nvidia drivers..... still slow... what can i do to improve performance?
[22:03] <fishcooker> there is no nvidia-config nomodeset
[22:03] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[22:03] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do?
[22:03] <nomodeset> nvidia-settings as root
[22:03] <nomodeset> mojtaba: recently
[22:04] <mojtaba> nomodeset: ??
[22:04] <xubuntu06> @nomodeset why in ubuntu 12.04 the wireless works and in xubuntu it's being  a pain
[22:05] <nomodeset> mojtaba: Do you have installed any additional pack?
[22:05] <_helios_> xubuntu06: did you switch from 32bit to 64bit?
[22:05] <mojtaba> nomodeset: no
[22:05] <nomodeset> mojtaba: Well it is really estrange?
[22:06] <mojtaba> nomodeset: The fan is always working.
[22:06] <mojtaba> I do not know why!
[22:06] <MarkShuttleworth> I HAVE RETURNED
[22:07] <Wulf> Hello!
[22:07] <Wulf> how can I automatically install usb printers?
[22:07] <MarkShuttleworth> try looking at some amazon ads
[22:07] <Wulf> so the user only needs to plug it in and click "print"
[22:07] <MarkShuttleworth> im mark shuttleworth, i know how to do this
[22:08] <mojtaba> I am using ubuntu 12.10 64x.
[22:08] <fishcooker> nomodeset: there are 3 resolution option
[22:08] <nomodeset> mojtaba: it is normal, but run "gnome-system-monitor" and check your cpu's load
[22:08] <MarkShuttleworth> Wulf: moar amazon ads is a good place to start
[22:08] <mojtaba> nomodeset: Thank you
[22:08] <fishcooker> auto; 640x; 320x
[22:08] <fishcooker> no 1024x*
[22:08] <nomodeset> fishcooker: it sucks
[22:08] <Wulf> MarkShuttleworth: but Pinky, how will this solve my problem?
[22:08] <fishcooker> LoL
[22:08] <mojtaba> nomodeset: even when not under load, the fan is working with full spead.
[22:08] <_helios_> lol
[22:09] <MarkShuttleworth> amazon ads are what ubuntu is all about now
[22:09] <fishcooker> but thankyou nomodeset
[22:09] <fishcooker> you are the best
[22:09] <xangua> !ops | MarkShuttleworth
[22:09] <nomodeset> mojtaba: I think that you don't have to worry about that, check the temperature of your laptop
[22:10] <MarkShuttleworth> halp
[22:10] <nomodeset> fishcooker: I'm not
[22:11] <fishcooker> yes, you have tried to solve our problem here
[22:11] <fishcooker> :-)
[22:12] <fishcooker> keep up the good job
[22:13] <nomodeset> fishcooker: Try with "sudo nvidia-settings"
[22:13] <mojtaba> nomodeset: It uses battery very much and also the fan is over loaded comparing windows, unfortunately.
[22:14] <fishcooker> yes i have
[22:15] <andai> jhutchins_wk: OK finally got a live CD working, doing a check on the partition
[22:15] <fishcooker> that's why i told you the option of resolution beber
[22:15] <fishcooker> *before
[22:15] <nomodeset> mojtaba: Well, it passed to me when I have not installed propietary drivers, but the cpu load was full
[22:16] <mojtaba> nomodeset: I have installed propietary drivers
[22:16] <nomodeset> mojtaba: estranger
[22:16] <mojtaba> !
[22:17] <Akuma> hello, where can I find open vpn client logs?
[22:20] <nomodeset> fishcooker: go to nvidia website and download linux drivers
[22:21] <fishcooker> ok thanks for the follow up .. yes i will
[22:22] <Ben64> don't use the drivers from the website, there are perfectly good ones in the standard ubuntu repository
[22:24] <Woozie> hello, i have the problem with nvidia proprietary drivers on 3.x kernel, i wrote everything on the nvidia forums, can I post a link?
[22:24] <nomodeset> Ben64: there is an option
[22:24] <nomodeset> Woozie: no
[22:25] <nomodeset> :-)
[22:25] <fishcooker> btw nomodeset how about the
[22:25] <nomodeset> fishcooker: what?
[22:26] <fishcooker> the old package
[22:26] <fishcooker> from apt-get install
[22:26] <fishcooker> should i remvoe it first
[22:27] <nomodeset> fishcooker: nvidia installer will do
[22:27]  * mojtaba help please
[22:27] <Woozie> the problem is that everything works fine, but on 2.6 kernel - on 3.x i have an error "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error)", in kern.log nvidia spits out the "nvrm: failed to copy vbios to system memory" errors. Every single Google result with this error is connected to Bumblebee, but i don't have Optimus on my laptop.
[22:28] <Woozie> My hardware is: Lenovo IdeaPad Y550 with GeForce GT240M
[22:28] <fishcooker> which version n model installer for mine
[22:28] <fishcooker> ?
[22:29] <fishcooker> it's built up gpu on the board
[22:29] <nomodeset> fishcooker: ah
[22:29] <Woozie> i can send xorg logs, kern.log and xorg.conf (unfortunately from Fedora, but i installed Ubuntu firstly and the problem was the same) right now
[22:30] <Ubuntu> Can anybody help me?
[22:30] <fishcooker> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[22:30] <fishcooker> on my lshw
[22:30] <nomodeset> fishcooker: it is
[22:30] <Woozie> i am fighting with this for three months, wrote on askubuntu, nvidia and mint forums and nothing
[22:30] <nomodeset> Woozie: it is hard
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: What have you been fighting with?
[22:31] <nomodeset> Woozie: give us the forums links
[22:31] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: with my problem, i wrote about this just after You connected
[22:31] <Woozie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/197040/nvidia-proprietary-driver-logging-me-to-console-instead-of-gui
[22:31] <Woozie> https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/528489/geforce-mobile-gpus/linux-gt240m-versus-3-x-kernel-fight-failed-to-copy-vbios-to-system-memory-/
[22:32] <Woozie> and wait a sec, i'll just find that mint forums post
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: OK, this is such a common issue. What have you done already?
[22:32] <Guest80282> Why the fan is working full loaded?
[22:32] <Guest80282> New installed, ubuntu 12.10 64x
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest80282, could you rephrase that? That was a little hard to understand.
[22:33] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: have done the nouveau blacklisting/removal, installing different nvidia drivers (from the ubuntu repo, from that edgers repo and from nvidia site)
[22:33] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: i was experimenting with ACPI and IOMMU kernel flags
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Have you been able to activate them via jocket?
[22:33] <Guest80282> SonikkuAmerica: I have installed newly the ubuntu 12.10 64x and when nothing is running the fan is always running fully loaded.
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> *jockey?
[22:34] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: I don't know what do you mean
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest80282, so your computer's fan is going overtime while nothing is running.
[22:34] <Guest80282> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[22:35] <nomodeset> Guest80282: the same problem of mojtaba
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest80282, sounds like a hardware issue. Tell me a little about the machine you're trying to run it on.
[22:35] <Guest80282> SonikkuAmerica: Dell Studio 1555
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie, After installing a third-party driver (repo or otherwise), you needto activate it via "Additional Drivers" or type [ sudo jockey ] in a terminal.
[22:36] <nomodeset> Guest80282: You're mojtaba
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> *need to
[22:37] <nomodeset> jockey-kde
[22:37] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: Hmm, i didn't tried that. Wait a second, i'll log in on IRC from phone and reboot into 3.x.
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Or jockey-gtk or just jockey
[22:37] <nomodeset> Woozie: Wow
[22:38] <folorn> I'm having a problem if anyone has time to help me with it: i need to repair my packages but forgot how any help would be great.. :)
[22:39] <nomodeset> folorn: type "man apt-get" and read it
[22:40] <folorn> thanks nomodeset
[22:47] <cookiesandjuice> Hi, is anyone there?
[22:47] <nkzz978> yep
[22:47] <cookiesandjuice> lol hey
[22:47] <taz1232> yea im still here
[22:47] <SQLWorld> Waaasssup
[22:47] <cookiesandjuice> uh, i'm an ubuntu newbie, and i'm having issues trying to use my wifi
[22:48] <cookiesandjuice> do you guys think you could help me?
[22:48] <Woozie> At last, logged in.
[22:49] <cookiesandjuice> Uh, hello?
[22:49] <taz1232> just say whats the problem
[22:49] <SQLWorld> What version of Unbuntu are you using? Cookies
[22:50] <mrsudoer> Welp, it was a lot easier installing ubuntu than installing fedora...
[22:50] <zooz> is there a way to prevent a service from starting after package installation?
[22:51] <cookiesandjuice> I can't connect to wifi - I've tried to enable the proprietary driver for my wireless card, but nothing happens
[22:53] <nomodeset> Press the wireless button
[22:53] <nomodeset> Help me please: "su: Authentication failure"
[22:53] <L3top> cookiesandjuice: lspci -nn | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless|802)'
[22:54] <SQLWorld> does anybody talk on this thing? im new to this.
[22:55] <cookiesandjuice> lol, yeah, i'm new too. they're here.
[22:56] <Ramtron> Hi
[22:56] <SQLWorld> :CookiesandJuice: what version of unbuntu are you using??
[22:56] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: Why are you using su?
[22:56] <Ramtron> My harddrive died recently... So I used my old one, but couldn't install windows 7 because it had no drivers. Luckily I had a Ubuntu 12.04 disc laying around. Does anyone know how to get all my drivers back? Preferably on Windows 7........
[22:57] <nomodeset> SonikkuAmerica: I want to change to my root status
[22:57] <nomodeset> Ramtron: You can call to microsoft
[22:58] <Ramtron> Why would I do that?
[22:58] <L3top> Ramtron: typically one would go to the websites of the hardware and download the drivers for the specific models.
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: use [ sudo -i ]
[22:58] <Ramtron> I can't, I can't install Windows 7 at all without drivers
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: Then you can mess with your machine as much as you want
[22:58] <Ramtron> I can use Ubuntu of course, but I'd prefer not to since I can't use Skype for school on here
[22:58] <Ben64> !skype | Ramtron
[22:59] <L3top> Ramtron: the point is... this is not an ubuntu question... it is a windows question. Getting your windows OS going is not within the scope of this channel
[22:59] <nomodeset> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, or [sudo -s] but why su doesnot run
[22:59] <Ben64> !root | nomodeset
[22:59] <Ramtron> I know :( but I need help I know you guys have the ability to do that
[22:59] <Ben64> Ramtron: try ##windows
[22:59] <Ramtron> And I know I can USE Skype, but my webcam was built in my laptop updise down so it's annoying
[22:59] <rypervenche> LOL
[23:00] <rypervenche> nomodeset: You CAN set a root password if you really want, but by default there is none.
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> Ramtron: I haven't had a Windows machine since 2003 or 2004.
[23:01] <L3top> Ramtron: I am afraid you need another channel. Let's pretend you made widgets. Your widget competition is largely incompetent, but largely popular. Does it become your burden to support your competition's widgets?
[23:01] <nomodeset> rypervenche: There s more protection without password: a pradox!
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> Ramtron: You can probably get the drivers, and possibly a restore disk, from your hardware manufacturer.
[23:01] <nomodeset> rypervenche: How can i do it?
[23:01] <Ramtron> I have a restore disc but there's no drivers on it
[23:01] <Ramtron> apparently
[23:01] <Ben64> nomodeset: it is not recommended, you should just use sudo
[23:02] <L3top> Ramtron: That does not affect the position here. /join ##windows
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: The [ su ] command doesn't work unless you set a password for the user "root."
[23:02] <zoom> good evening
[23:02] <nomodeset> Ben64: yeah, yeah! but how can i do it?
[23:02] <Ben64> nomodeset: by using sudo
[23:02] <Woozie> nomodeset: sudo passwd root
[23:02] <Ramtron> Can you please just help, instead? It's very important, no one's answering there
[23:02] <rypervenche> nomodeset: You can do "sudo -i" to get the same thing done. Otherwise, you can change it by doing "sudo passwd root"
[23:02] <Ben64> Ramtron: no
[23:02] <L3top> Ramtron: that is kind of the point.
[23:02] <L3top> Would they field your linux questions?
[23:02] <Ramtron> People are doing illegal shit all over the world, and you kids are afraid to break rules in a damn IRC chat
[23:03] <Ramtron> grow up
[23:03] <Ramtron> No one cares. You're not getting paid
[23:03] <nomodeset> SonikkuAmerica: Ben64: rypervenche: Thanks a lot guys
[23:03] <Ben64> you come into an ubuntu chat for windows support, how about you grow up
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !civil
[23:03] <L3top> Ramtron: nor are they in ##windows...
[23:03] <nomodeset> Ramtron: thanks for your advice
[23:03] <Ramtron> Well, grow up regardless. See ya
[23:04] <zoom> hmm... makes me want to walk into an apple store to get an android app installed ;-)
[23:04] <rypervenche> L3top: Sounds like you need a better operating system
[23:04] <L3top> Ramtron: I have so many heartbeats in my chest. I will not field your paid product support for free.
[23:04] <rypervenche> errr
[23:04] <L3top> !ot
[23:04] <rypervenche> wrong person ;;
[23:05] <nomodeset> rypervenche: how can i call to ubottu
[23:05] <nomodeset> ?
[23:05] <rypervenche> nomodeset: /query ubottu
[23:06] <nomodeset> rypervenche: thanks
[23:06] <zoom> anyone up for some powermanagement / "it wont standby/sleep/hibertnate at all" issues?
[23:06] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, it'll take some time, need to install Ubuntu
[23:06] <Ben64> zoom: usually the answer to that is "don't sleep/standby/hibernate"
[23:06] <tigran> If someone is running unity, can you confirm something for, please. Using keyboard shortcuts to lower volume, lower your volume all the way until the bar doesn't show anymore. Then press lower volume one more time, does the bar show full now?
[23:07] <tigran> Also, which package handles that so I can take a look at the source
[23:08] <zoom> its a laptop on xubuntu quantal
[23:08] <zoom> and before you send me to #xubuntu, a ubuntu lts live disk behaved the same
[23:08] <noobe> I run Windows and Linux in vmware player. Something happen and i cant "paste" from one machine to another. I can paste from windows to my host OS.
[23:08] <noobe> How to fix that ?
[23:09] <Sara> needed to reinstall my win 7 used boot repair to boot into windows again. it erased grub2 now don't know how to recover ubuntu. please don't give me boot repair link need more help
[23:09] <nomodeset> tigran: Using keyboard shortcuts to lower volume, lower your volume all the way until the bar doesn't show anymore. not the other
[23:09] <nomodeset> Sara: google it please
[23:09] <nomodeset> Sara: that is a well known issue
[23:10] <tigran> nomodeset: I'm not sure what you're saying
[23:10] <Sara> I did it gives boot repair link
[23:10] <Celso> People, When i open software center, isn't suposed to use de icon that already is on the bar and not opening another? or when open, it uses another icon?
[23:10] <Ben64> !google | nomodeset
[23:10] <Sara> I fail to follow the procedure in boot repair link it says the partition does not exist
[23:10] <Ben64> Sara: we've been over this many many times. use boot repair and give the pastebin link at the end
[23:10] <zoom> hmm... i think ive come to the wrong neighbourhood... random people, random questions flying about
[23:11] <nomodeset> Ben64: ubottu: oki
[23:11] <Sara> http://pastebin.com/8ttDbTV6
[23:11] <Sara> paste bin link after using boot repair
[23:12] <Sara> it loged in windows again like i have done nothing
[23:12] <Ben64> Sara: the problem appears to be that you do not have ubuntu installed
[23:12] <nomodeset> Sara: You have to run a live cd
[23:12] <Sara> Im in live cd . i used live usb to use boot repair
[23:13] <cookiesandjuice> I've enabled my Broadcom BCM4311 driver, but nothing happens - Ubuntu doesn't scan for a wireless connection. Any suggestions?
[23:13] <fabio123> i know there is a way to boot into ubuntu from vhd virtual hdd
[23:13] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[23:13] <nomodeset> Sara:
[23:13] <nomodeset> Sara: http://pastebin.com/8ttDbTV6
[23:13] <Sara> I had ubuntu running for long time  ben
[23:13] <Ben64> Sara: windows must have erased it
[23:14] <fabio123> but it isnt free vboot
[23:14] <nomodeset> Ben64: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo chroot /mnt
[23:14] <nomodeset> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[23:14] <nomodeset> update-grub2
[23:14] <FloodBot1> nomodeset: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <Sara> It happens again and again why
[23:14] <Sara> i cannot erase all my files in ubuntu everytime i install windows
[23:14] <Ben64> Sara: when you repaired windows or whatever you did, it erased the partition(s) for ubuntu
[23:15] <Ben64> Sara: how many times do you need to install windows?
[23:15] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Note that you need to install grub to the device such as /dev/sda, not a partition like /dev/sda1
[23:15] <fabio123> http://www.vmlite.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51&Itemid=148
[23:15] <Sara> then tell me how to do it for next time cause its 5th time im asking same question in this forume
[23:15] <nomodeset> Sara: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591059/
[23:15] <Ben64> Sara: do what
[23:16] <nomodeset> Sara: please be polite
[23:16] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: The recommended method is to install windows first, then install Ubuntu.  This will allow Ubuntu's grub to manage booting to either windows or ubuntu.
[23:16] <tigran> nomodeset: were you asking me what I meant by that?
[23:16] <nomodeset> tigran: no, i do it and i have seen the same,
[23:17] <tigran> ok, seems like a bug huh
[23:17] <nomodeset> tigran: wait but no the other:
[23:17] <Sara> Im polite why? did i say sth?
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We're not entirely clear on what you actually did.  What did you do that made ubuntu stop working?
[23:17] <tigran> nomodeset: whenever you lower the volume when volume is 0, the bar stays empty for you?
[23:18] <nomodeset> tigran: you got it
[23:18] <tigran> which version of ubuntu are you using
[23:18] <nomodeset> 12.10
[23:18] <tigran> hmm, I'm on mint 14 which is ubuntu 12.10
[23:18] <Sara> during installation of windows it asks to restart to contiue . after the first restart it fails to come back to installation process.
[23:19] <Ben64> !mint | tigran
[23:19] <L3top> !mint | tigran
[23:19] <L3top> !mint > tigran
[23:19] <tigran> anyone else want to redirect me to that? :)
[23:19] <nomodeset> L3top: Ben64: it is not about mit
[23:19] <Sara> I loged in usb live and installed boot repair recommended setting
[23:19] <L3top> !mint
[23:19] <Netbus> Sara: what error messages?
[23:19] <Sara> and thats it nothing else
[23:19] <Sara> grub rescue>
[23:20] <Ben64> Sara: windows works now, right?
[23:20] <nomodeset> Ben64: L3top: it is not about mid at all
[23:20] <L3top> doesn't matter what one thinks it is about. Mint is unsupported here.
[23:20] <Sara> yeap
[23:20] <Sara> not ubuntu
[23:20] <Ben64> Sara: then install ubuntu, and everything will work
[23:20] <tigran> I lied, im on ubuntu 12.10
[23:20] <nomodeset> L3top: it is not about mint, is about a bug in ubuntu 1210
[23:20] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We're having to guess what you did, that's not very helpful/
[23:20] <Sara> and my ubuntu files is gone after installing it again
[23:20] <supster> Does anyone see any issues with this Upstart job? Are there any improvements to make? https://gist.github.com/4678285
[23:21] <Sara> I said all i did Idid nothign more
[23:21] <L3top> Could very well be. File a bug. However I am not wasting my time supporting an unsupported OS
[23:21] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Unless you have a seperate partition that's going to happen every time.
[23:21] <Sara> I have a seperate partition
[23:21] <Sara> ext 4
[23:21] <Ben64> Sara: just install ubuntu
[23:21] <Ben64> you currently do not have an ext4 partition
[23:21] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Is the partition still there?
[23:21] <tigran> do you know which package manages the displaying of the volume level when changing it via keyboard?
[23:22] <Ben64> tigran: we cannot support mint here, sorry
[23:22] <Sara> ben I have done that last ime it erases my files in ubuntu i should begin from scrach
[23:22] <L3top> Sara, if you install windows AFTER *buntu on its own partition... you will have to update grub
[23:22] <tigran> Ben64: that's awesome, im not asking a question about mint
[23:22] <Sara> I can see the partions in windows
[23:22] <Ben64> Sara: installing ubuntu doesn't erase files in ubuntu
[23:22] <Kurukuru> for some reason, I can't access PPA for super-boot-manager
[23:22] <k1l> tigran: last time. when using mint please use the mint support since they handle things differently
[23:22] <Sara> how l3top
[23:22] <Ben64> Sara: especially when you don't have ubuntu installed
[23:22] <Celso> curently, i think windows dont see ext4 partitions
[23:23] <Kurukuru> 'pleasecheck your internet connection'
[23:23] <L3top> Sara... windows cannot recognize a linux partition... how specifically do you "see" it
[23:23] <Kurukuru> internet is working fine
[23:23] <Sara> well then I install it differently . cause it did
[23:23] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: As long as you don't install Windows to the same partition as Ubuntu it won't erase your files, but it will overwrite grub.
[23:23] <Sara> right click on computer and manage
[23:23] <notonmint> In Ubuntu 12.10, which package manages the displaying of the volume level when changing it via keyboard, if anyone happens to know.
[23:23] <Celso> i doubt
[23:23] <L3top> Sara: Windows does not understand linux... linux understands windows. If you want to install both... install windows first, then linux.
[23:23] <Ben64> notonmint: stop playing games, we can't help you
[23:24] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: It sounds like when you installed Windows you formated the ext4 partition.
[23:24] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: That means it's not ext4 any more.
[23:24] <L3top> Sara: going the other direction requires doing things which are time consuming.
[23:24] <Sara> when you have them both installed and you want to reinstall windows. how are you going to manage that L3top
[23:25] <Ben64> lolseriously: don't make me drive to pomona
[23:25] <Sara> ext4 still there
[23:25] <lolseriously> damn you scary
[23:25] <Sara> windows cannot format in ext 4
[23:25] <lolseriously> but seriously, no need to kick me..
[23:25] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Ok, if it's still there then you can boot to a rescue disk and restore grub.
[23:25] <lolseriously> I'm not asking about mint here
[23:25] <Celso> Sara, in wich OS you are?
[23:25] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, are you alive?
[23:25] <L3top> you reinstall windows on the recognized partition, then boot to a live disk... then chroot the install after binding a lot, then updating grub...
[23:25] <L3top> Sara: ^
[23:26] <Sara> ubuntu 12.04 -windows 7 dual boot
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Of course I'm alive. Et tu, Brute? ::dies::
[23:26] <nomodeset> L3top: Windows does not understand linux -> Windows does not want linux
[23:26] <Drumroll> windows doesn't understand windows
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Anyway, you're stuck in a console, right?
[23:26] <Celso> Sara, curently, you are using the ubuntu? Now?
[23:26] <L3top> Regardless of cause... their bootloader is not created to accept linux... so you must boot to windows via a linux boot loader
[23:26] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You appear to be in Calgary.  What is your native language?
[23:26] <Sara> from live usb celso
[23:27] <Woozie> Alright, just installed nvidia-current and rebooting
[23:27] <Sara> vancouver Persian why?
[23:27] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We're having a little trouble understanding you, but we'll try harder.
[23:27] <L3top> Sarah... don't answer personal questions. One moment...
[23:27] <gmulak_> Hello  I am sure it is an oft asked question - but - I don't know the answer and could use some help.  What Ubuntu distro will work best on an Atom Dual core processor with 1GB memory?
[23:28] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, yep, logged to console
[23:28] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: I was hoping we might find a native language channel, but not for Persian.
[23:28] <Celso> Sara, in ubuntu, open the computer folder and what do you see?
[23:28] <Sara> ok L3top you right
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> gmulak_: Just about anything, I'll bet. What's the speed of your Atom?
[23:28] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Is there a reason you can't install grub from the console as has been suggested above?
[23:28] <histo> gmulak_: I'd run something like lubuntu or xubuntu
[23:28] <Ramtron> I give up. I have no drivers, how do I get them back on 12.04?
[23:28] <histo> gmulak_: lubuntu being the lightest
[23:28] <gmulak_> sonikkuamerica - I am not sure.  I knew you were going to ask...  :-(
[23:29] <jhutchins_wk> gmulak_: No reason not to run ubuntu on that.
[23:29] <gmulak_> histo - the latest distro?  Which is?
[23:29] <L3top> I wasn't attempting to evaluate your reasons jhutchins_wk... just suggesting personal information is not ever necessary... I understand the language question... and a valid one... just... I dunno sayin.
[23:29] <Kurukuru> for some reason, I can't access PPA for super-boot-manager - anyone know why?
[23:29] <histo> gmulak_: All of the variations aare current.  What sort of GPU do you have in that box?
[23:29] <jhutchins_wk> Ramtron: Drivers for what?
[23:29] <gmulak_> histo - I have not heard of lubuntu   --  I am going to take it to SCALE
[23:29] <Celso> By the way, when i open software center, isn't suposed to use de icon that already is on the bar and not opening another? or when open, it uses another icon?
[23:30] <Ramtron> Literally everything
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Type [ sudo jockey ] in the console and tell me what happens.
[23:30] <nomodeset> jhutchins_wk: windows
[23:30] <histo> gmulak_: What type of video card is it?
[23:30] <k1l> Kurukuru: the ppa is down? they have no packages for your release?
[23:30] <Sara> 640 GB hard disk acer- 640 harddisk system reserved- file system. celso
[23:30] <gmulak_> histo - the GPU is not very powerful.  Not a lot of graphic power
[23:30] <histo> gmulak_: take it to SCALE?
[23:30] <histo> gmulak_: What kind is it? Do you know?
[23:30] <Kurukuru> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager
[23:30] <Sara> files system is supposed to contain all my files but it does not
[23:30] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, sudo jockey-gtk spitted the runtime error
[23:31] <Kurukuru> gives me an internet connection message
[23:31] <k1l> Kurukuru: pastebin the messages please
[23:31] <gmulak_> histo - It's on a mini itx board I want to say a D2500?  Does that sound right?
[23:31] <Ben64> Sara: you currently do not have ubuntu installed on your computer, if you would like to dual boot, you need to install ubuntu
[23:31] <Celso> sara, isn't seperated in more partitions?
[23:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Right. [ sudo jockey ] alone should give you a text-based version of the program.
[23:31] <histo> gmulak_: Doesn't really sound right.  Is it intel based or nvidia?
[23:32] <gmulak_> histo - Intel based
[23:32] <histo> gmulak_: Like i've seen atom boards with nvidia ion chips
[23:32] <xius> so I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.
[23:32] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: no such co
[23:32] <Sara> what do you mean seperated? ubuntu and windows are in diferent partitions
[23:32] <gmulak_> histo - no, I do know that much, it is intel based
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: OK, try [ sudo startx ]
[23:32] <histo> gmulak_: Let's put it this way it will run ubuntu.   Your issue is going to be ram consumption.  You could try to mitigate the issue by using a 32bit version
[23:32] <Sara> 300gb win 300gb ubuntu
[23:32] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, no such command
[23:33] <histo> gmulak_: Or go with a lighter variant of ubuntu like xubuntu or lubuntu
[23:33] <Brewster> Ok so a while ago I attemted to update my nvidia drivers not knowing my graphics card was supported. The update succeeded but I was left with a terminal log in screen. I wiped everything and reinstalled ubuntu but now I can't keep anything on for more than 10 minutes or my graphics card sizzles and I lose the display. If I turn everything off and wait a bit everything works fine for
[23:33] <Brewster> another 10 minutes. Does anyone have a clue as to how I might fix this?
[23:33] <gmulak_> histo - OK.  I don't think I can add ram.  I know xubuntu - what is lubuntu?
[23:33] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, NVIDIA input/output error
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> I have a ? of my own: Is it possible to change the behavior of Ctrl+Alt+Delete in the GUI?
[23:33] <Woozie> same as always
[23:33] <Celso> Sara, now enter on that 300 gb ubuntu partition and tell me what is inside.
[23:34] <histo> gmulak_: lubuntu is lxde based
[23:34] <Brewster> on top of that I would like to ask: Does nvidia have problems with ubuntu or does ubuntu have problems with nvidia?
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Hmmm...
[23:34] <gmulak_> OK - cool  Thank you very much!
[23:34] <daftykins> Brewster: so since you reinstalled, what driver are you using?
[23:34] <nomodeset> where can i enable transparencies ?
[23:35] <Brewster> oh wasn't*
[23:35] <Celso> Sara, but i would advise you to grab a live cd or usb and to reinstall the ubuntu again
[23:35] <Brewster> daftykins: well I switched back to the drivers that I previously had nvidia-current-updates
[23:35] <daftykins> Brewster: do you know your card?
[23:35] <Sara> cannot mount it celso it does not find ubuntu partions anymore
[23:36] <Ben64> Brewster: do you have dual gpu? like intel and nvidia
[23:36] <Kurukuru> k1l, http://pastebin.ca/2309094
[23:36] <histo> gmulak_: just make sure you use 32bit version with that little ram.  Also what is SCALE?
[23:36] <Celso> it only says 600gb?
[23:36] <Brewster> daftykins: geforce 7950... I didn't get the memo that they stopped making linux drivers for geforce 7
[23:36] <xius> so I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.
[23:36] <Brewster> and that is the only graphics card on the computer
[23:36] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, any ideas?
[23:37] <k1l> Kurukuru: check the url that is mentioned in that errormsg
[23:37] <k1l> Kurukuru: the ppa seems gone
[23:37] <Ben64> Brewster: you need to use a 304.xx driver for that
[23:37] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Is there a reason you can't install grub from the console as has been suggested above?
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: I've never used the NVIDIA drivers; I've been confident with Nouveau.
[23:37] <Kurukuru> k1l: So what are my options?
[23:37] <Brewster> I know
[23:37] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk: there is no ubuntu installed on the computer
[23:37] <Sara> where is it suggested?
[23:38] <daftykins> brb
[23:38] <Brewster> I was using the 304.xx driver before all this nonsense happened
[23:38] <L3top> Sara: load an ubuntu live disk... once loaded, please pastebin the output of mount
[23:38] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk, Sara: installing grub won't help without installing ubuntu first
[23:38] <k1l> Kurukuru: make sure you typed that ppa right
[23:38] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, Nouveau causes an complete PC hangup on my laptop.
[23:38] <Ben64> Sara: ~~~Install Ubuntu~~~
[23:38] <Celso> Ben64 is right. he already realized that much more sooner than me. lol
[23:38] <L3top> Sara: better yet fdisk -l
[23:38] <Sara> tell me how to recover files after installing ubuntu?
[23:38] <Ben64> Sara: \\\Install Ubuntu///
[23:39] <L3top> recover what files Sara?
[23:39] <histo> Sara: Wait recover what files?
[23:39] <Kurukuru> k1l: looks fine to me
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: I would switch my distro to something else then. Maybe Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[23:39] <histo> !details | Sara
[23:39] <Sara> files that i had on my ubuntu before reinstalling windows and messing up with ubuntu
[23:40] <k1l> Kurukuru: remove the // at the beginning
[23:40] <Ben64> Sara: they're gone
[23:40] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, this problem is affecting every single 3.x kernel Linux distro.
[23:40] <histo> Ben64: No their not
[23:40] <histo> Sara: did you repartition when you installed windows?
[23:40] <Ben64> histo: they're* and yes they are. there is no ext4 partition remaining
[23:40] <nomodeset> exit
[23:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Really.
[23:40] <jhutchins_wk> Ben64: There seems to be disagreement.  She had it installed, then she installed Windows.  Windows won't overwrite Ubuntu unless you try really hard.
[23:40] <Kurukuru> k1l: whoops yeah, just caught that.. thanks
[23:40] <L3top> Sara: unless you overwrote the partition... they are NOT gone... you simply cannot boot to Ubuntu to access and use them. You need to boot to an Ubuntu LIVE disk... then type sudo fdisk -l... and I can tell you what is what.
[23:40] <histo> Ben64: So the files are still there
[23:40] <Sara> I repartioned when i installed ubuntu in dual boot with win 7
[23:40] <Garr255> anyone selling btc for bank deposit right now?
[23:41] <nomodeset> quit
[23:41] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, i am currently using MEPIS 11 on 2.6 kernel, but I really need 3.x D;
[23:41] <Sara> ubuntu was on sda 4
[23:41] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk: there was a pastebin with fdisk -l and a bunch of other good stuff, ubuntu is most definitely not installed
[23:41] <Sara> its gone anyway im going to reinstall it again
[23:41] <histo> Sara: STOP
[23:41] <L3top> Sara... becuase WINDOWS does not see it... does not mean it is gone
[23:41] <Celso> people, but how the heck she on ubuntu live usb cant access the 300 gb? it says cant mout
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Are you using Ubuntu Server?
[23:41] <L3top> PLEASE BOOT TO UBUNTU LIVE DISK
[23:41] <histo> Sara: You can still recover your files using photorec
[23:41] <Ben64> oh my god you guys
[23:41] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: She's reportedly on some rescue USB.
[23:41] <Sara> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[23:41] <Ben64> there is no ext4 partition
[23:42] <histo> Ben64: Will you please stop giving bad advice. You can use data recovery tools to save her files.
[23:42] <Sara> nothing happend L3top
[23:42] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, no, currenty using 12.04 LTS desktop
[23:42] <L3top> Sara: sudo fdisk -l
[23:42] <histo> Ben64: Doens't matter if the partition is there or not
[23:42] <L3top> fdisk does not work without root priv
[23:42] <Ben64> histo: ok fine, you do it then
[23:42] <Sara> http://pastebin.com/2qvyLpFU
[23:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: So going to Ubuntu 12.10 causes your NVIDIA card to go bonkers.
[23:42] <Guest1093> @seek alastair reynolds
[23:43] <histo> Sara: Please listen to me. Boot a ubuntu live cd imediately.  Install the testdisk package.  Use photorec to scan the drive and recover your files.     If they are that necessary. If you can deal with losing them then it's not worh the time.
[23:44] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, no, i wanted to say that I was trying to use 12.04. Only distros that fully works are these with 2.6 kernel
[23:44] <L3top> Sara, it appears as though you have chunked your linux install.
[23:44] <L3top> histo: if it was an ext4 partition... I find your advice unusable...
[23:44] <jhutchins_wk> histo: Does it occur to you to wonder how the files got erased?
[23:44] <histo> L3top: IT IS NOT
[23:44] <histo> you people really need to understand data recovery tools.
[23:45] <Sara> why i do that eveytime install windows. I did exactly what was written on boot repair page
[23:45] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: It does not appear that she has a valid ubuntu partition.
[23:45] <L3top> Sara: it has to do with the options you select for the windows install
[23:45] <L3top> Correct jhutchins_wk
[23:45] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: Check the pastebin.
[23:46] <Sara> all recommended option ididnot change anything
[23:46] <L3top> histo... I am familiar. actual recovery on ext3+ is... a time vampire... and never works. In my experience.
[23:46] <histo> Sara: if you told windows to use the entire disk this would have happened. Also windows overwrote the mbr.
[23:46] <histo> L3top: if you scna a drive sector by sector for headers of a file it doesn't really matter.  You're not understanding.
[23:46] <jhutchins_wk> histo: Note that there are two NTFS partitions.  That's not standard.
[23:47] <Celso> Sara, with 2 partitions, one for windows (ntfs) and other for ubuntu (ext4), when reinstalling windows, you only need to choose ntfs partition. never touch on the ext4 partition.
[23:47] <histo> jhutchins_wk: windows 7 uses a boot partition
[23:47] <Sara> windows does not ask about partition its preload
[23:47] <L3top> histo: the partition is gone. recovering an ext4 after a windows partition... is a thing of legend.
[23:47] <histo> L3top: No it's not.
[23:47] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Are you using a Windows install disk or are you using a system restore disk from the manufacturer?
[23:48] <L3top> histo: source.
[23:48] <jhutchins_wk> histo: MSCE here, I agree with L3top
[23:48] <histo> L3top: I should clarify. You are talking about recovering the partition.  That will be an issue. But carving files out is not.
[23:48] <daftykins> MCSE too? :)
[23:48] <Brewster> so...
[23:48] <histo> L3top: since she asked how do i recover my files. I was explaining how.
[23:48] <Sara> no disk . its preload on my computer I boot into windows installation using alt+F#
[23:48] <Brewster> any words of advice?
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> daftykins: And dyslexic to boot!
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> Bingo.
[23:49] <daftykins> jhutchins_wk: :)
[23:49] <L3top> histo, the files were wiped by a windows install... the partition is no longer there... this is not a recovery issue anymore imo.
[23:49] <Sara> and yes its from manufacturer
[23:49] <histo> Sara: Yeah that will blow out any partitions you previously created. They usually work by disk image
[23:49] <Celso> problem is detected XD
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: That restore process is what's killing ubuntu - it's putting the disk back the way it was when you got it.
[23:49] <histo> L3top: You are missinformed.  Only some of the files have been replaced.
[23:50] <Sara> yeah i just need to know how to prevent it for next time
[23:50] <histo> L3top: mostlike the files for the linux system not /home
[23:50] <L3top> THE PARTITION TABLE IS...
[23:50] <L3top> sigh
[23:50] <L3top> histo: source.
[23:50] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You should be able to reinstall Ubuntu, but if you run that restore again it will be gone again.
[23:50] <histo> L3top: WHO CARES ABOUT THE PARTITION TABLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FILES
[23:50] <Ben64> everyone, relax
[23:50] <L3top> histo: soruce
[23:50] <L3top> source*
[23:50] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You need some other way to restore Windows if you need to do it and keep Ubuntu.
[23:50] <Ben64> histo: recovery is a dubious proposition at best
[23:51] <histo> Ben64: L3top I will bet you both 1k that I can recover files from that drive.
[23:51] <Celso> Ben64, I have beer, eurodance music, so, more relaxed than this is impossible :P
[23:51] <jhutchins_wk> histo: The Windows restore wrote over the Ubuntu partition.
[23:51] <Ben64> even if some files still remain, they're likely to be fragmented and unusable
[23:51] <daftykins> A lot of you right now are making the person asking the question suffer by enduring your little domestic rant. Go and walk around for a while to calm down and let someone else take over so you're no longer letting your personality get in the way.
[23:51] <histo> jhutchins_wk: Yeap I know.
[23:51] <Sara> wll im trying testtdisk for now
[23:51] <jhutchins_wk> histo: No point in attempting recovery at this point.
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Here, let me step in.
[23:52] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: testdisk is not going to help.
[23:52] <histo> Ben64: L3top jhutchins_wk This is what I do for a living but go ahead and missinform people.
[23:52] <histo> jhutchins_wk: but photorec will
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> What's the deal here?
[23:52] <L3top> histo: source. (ps you are not a source)
[23:52] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Let me explain again:  The restore process os what killed Ubuntu.  Ubuntu isn't there any more.
[23:52] <Ben64> histo: i'm not misinforming anyone
[23:52] <histo> L3top: google file carving
[23:52] <histo> This is not some new technology.
[23:52] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You can re-install Ubuntu, but if you restore Windows it will destroy Ubuntu again.
[23:53] <histo> Windows merely overwrote some of the disk. Most likely the first part where windows was already installed
[23:53] <Woozie> !google | histo
[23:53] <L3top> histo: to ask for a source, cannot be adequetely fulfilled by asking me to find your source.
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> What is this talk of destroying Ubuntu?
[23:53] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Windows system restore.
[23:53] <xius> so I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk, that won't destroy Ubuntu.
[23:53] <histo> I really dont' care belive what you want to believe. If you are too lazy to google data carving I really can't help. I don't have the time or the patience to argue with you all anymore.
[23:53] <frowni> Can someone help me with slowing the mouse a bit :)
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, in this case at least, it restores the original partitions and reimages them.
[23:54] <histo> !info scalpel | L3top jhutchins_wk Ben64
[23:54] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, Sara restored Windows fron recovery partition
[23:54] <frowni> Mouse settings are at the lowest speed already, but it's still fast.
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Like a factory image?
[23:54] <histo> !info testdisk | L3top jhutchins_wk Ben64
[23:54] <histo> Hey also includes photorec in the testdisk package.
[23:54] <Sara> so how can i install windows without erasing ubuntu partions?
[23:54] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: yes, a factory recovery cd/dvd
[23:54] <histo> I have to go for a bit.
[23:54] <histo> brb
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> histo: Please stop.  Unless she had personal data on the system it's much smarter to just reinstall.
[23:54] <Ben64> Sara: why do you need to install windows so often?
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> Ben64: because Windows.
[23:55] <Sara> I got a virus this time
[23:55] <Ben64> windows 7 isn't as bad about stuff like that anymore
[23:55] <gmulak_> histo:  SCALe is Southern California Linux Expo - Here:  http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x
[23:55] <Sara> and my autocad stoped working
[23:55] <Ben64> Sara: you should use antivirus software in windows :)
[23:55] <blunted> Is it a bug if a package pushback breaks my hosting companies kernel config? I think there is a bug here but not sure
[23:55] <Celso> frowni, wireless mouse?
[23:55] <Sara> I do avast
[23:55] <gskellig> brightness buttons still not working on my laptop. Anybody have ideas? ubuntu 12.10, asus UL30vt laptop
[23:55] <daftykins> Sara: do you download illegal stuff on it all the time or something?
[23:56] <Woozie> Formatting a HDD isn't a way to delete viruses
[23:56] <gskellig> the OSD goes up and down but the brightness stays the same
[23:56] <Sara> nope.
[23:56] <frowni> Celso, nope, wired
[23:56] <frowni> Celso, wired hp mouse
[23:56] <Sara> dafty what kind of question is that
[23:56] <frowni> celso, plain simple one :P
[23:56] <daftykins> a genuine one
[23:56] <Celso> gskelling, your graphics card?
[23:56] <Celso> ok frowni, wait a minute
[23:56] <daftykins> Sara: i just don't see win7 getting affected that often
[23:56] <gskellig> GT218M and also intel HD1000
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Sara: See my message query.
[23:57] <Celso> ok frowni, see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/133611/how-do-i-slow-down-my-wireless-mouse?rq=1
[23:57] <Celso> wich one you are using gskellig?
[23:57] <L3top> histo... familiar... packages are not sources. I do forensic data recovery. I use helix primarily. I am familiar with carving. You are unable to provide a "how to" sort of source... because there isn't one, once ext4 is overwritten by windows. We are in different animal territory.
[23:58] <gskellig> celso well, I want to use both. With bumblebee (nvidia optimus for linux)
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Since the windows restore is always going to kill Ubuntu (unless you put ubuntu on a seperate drive), you need an alternative method like a good image backup - easy to do from Ubuntu.
[23:58] <gskellig> but by default use the intel one
[23:58] <L3top> It CAN be done... but... you need equipment and time and skill... at this point... this is not sound advice... and I do not accept at face value, you have it.
[23:58] <Celso> ok. i am not very familiar with the bumblebee stuff but try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123604/how-do-i-make-screen-dimming-work-in-ubuntu-12-04-beta-2
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: I would recommend using avg instead of avast for anti-virus.  The windows system protection stuff is pretty good too.
[23:58] <Celso> i curently use vgaswitcheroo.
[23:59] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, thanks for help, got to go and crowl Internet for fixes, bye :]
[23:59] <blunted> Optimus on Linux, yayayaya thank you sara
[23:59] <Celso> frowni, did it worked?
[23:59] <gskellig> is vgaswitcheroo updated recently?
[23:59] <gskellig> I'm up for anything to be honest
[23:59] <gskellig> as long as its easy to use