/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/01/31/#kubuntu-devel.txt

shadeslayermorning04:22
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phoenix_firebrdgood morning everyone05:47
shadeslayerhi phoenix_firebrd :)05:48
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: hi05:48
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: so, I have a small task for you05:48
shadeslayerW: kdiamond source: syntax-error-in-dep5-copyright line 33: Duplicate field license.05:48
shadeslayerfix this ^05:48
phoenix_firebrdok05:49
shadeslayerthat's a lintian warning and is googlable05:49
phoenix_firebrdok05:49
shadeslayermore specifically the syntax-error-in-dep5-copyright bit05:49
shadeslayeronce you're done, here's another one : E: kfloppy source: malformed-override Override of dbg-package-missing-depends for kdeutils (expecting kfloppy) at line 105:50
phoenix_firebrdis the kde 4.10 sc tars ready?05:50
shadeslayeryup, I'm running the script right now05:50
shadeslayershould take another 30-40 minutes05:51
phoenix_firebrdok05:51
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: btw lintian.debian.org will also list packages that have a similar lintian error05:52
shadeslayerso if the package also exists there, you can ignore it05:52
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: pull-lp-source gives me kdiamond 4.9.98 you want this or 4.1005:54
shadeslayeruse that for now05:54
shadeslayeror rather05:54
phoenix_firebrdok05:54
shadeslayerdo you have kubuntu-dev-tools installed?05:54
phoenix_firebrdshall i finish my breakfast in 10 min?05:54
shadeslayersure05:54
phoenix_firebrdok05:55
shadeslayerinstall kubuntu-dev-tools once you're done and run kbzr branch kdiamond05:55
shadeslayerin there, you'll find the latest packaging05:55
phoenix_firebrdi have done that already05:57
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: Can i edit the copyright file?06:16
shadeslayersure06:19
phoenix_firebrdbrb06:30
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok i soved the copyright issue for kdiamond what should i do06:39
phoenix_firebrdchecking kfloppy06:40
shadeslayerinstall kubuntu-dev-tools , kbzr branch kdiamond , patch the copyright file and propose a merge on lp06:40
phoenix_firebrdok06:41
shadeslayersee https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdiamond06:41
phoenix_firebrdwhat should be the version and release name i should specify in the change log?06:43
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ^06:43
shadeslayerdon't06:43
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: just edit debian/copyright06:44
phoenix_firebrdok06:45
shadeslayerkdeplasma-addons: bzr unclean or out of sync06:51
shadeslayerwot06:51
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: done06:57
shadeslayercool :)06:58
phoenix_firebrdare you going to merge it noe?06:58
shadeslayerin a bit06:58
shadeslayerI want to push 4.10 branches first06:58
phoenix_firebrdok06:58
phoenix_firebrdchecking kfloppy06:59
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: there is a mistakle06:59
shadeslayerfix it :)07:00
phoenix_firebrdi have put "changelog" instead of "copyright" in changelog07:00
shadeslayererm07:02
shadeslayercan not add an entry to the changelog?07:02
shadeslayer*can you 07:03
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: corrected the change log and summited for merge07:07
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: can you drop the changelog entry?07:10
shadeslayernot required07:10
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: but yofel told me to mention anything that is changed07:11
shadeslayeryes, anything major07:12
shadeslayerthat's a trivial change07:12
shadeslayercan be skipped07:12
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok if you say so07:12
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phoenix_firebrddebuild succeeds for kfloppy 4.9.9807:19
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ^07:19
shadeslayerlook at the lintian output07:20
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phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ya i can see that, i have come across that yesterday07:21
phoenix_firebrdchecking for a solution07:21
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: but thats a warning right?07:22
shadeslayeryup07:22
Quintasanmfw shadeslayer is tutoring someone07:22
shadeslayerheh07:22
QuintasanGod07:23
QuintasanGotta take a look at maliit-frameworks07:23
Quintasanduh07:23
shadeslayererm07:23
Quintasan wat07:23
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: you have diff markers now07:23
yofel_morning07:23
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shadeslayerhi yofel07:24
yofelbad shadeslayer not putting changes in changelog :P07:24
yofelanyway07:24
phoenix_firebrdyofel: morning07:24
shadeslayerit's a trivial change! :P07:24
yofelyeah, vm07:24
yofel*nvm07:24
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: without that debuild gives me error07:25
yofelre that copyright issue: do the buildlogs have the lintian output in them?07:25
shadeslayeryofel: I think so07:25
shadeslayerand I'm thinking the same thing you are07:25
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i solved the tomboy-blogsposter error07:27
phoenix_firebrdyofel: but i am not able to put the config  in place07:28
yofelshadeslayer: good :D - I'll try to write a check for it later07:28
shadeslayerokay, the buildd's don't have it07:29
shadeslayerthe official ones07:30
Quintasan☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭☭07:31
jussihah07:31
Quintasanutf-8 ftw07:31
jussigood morning ladies and gents07:31
Quintasanwat07:31
Quintasanjussi07:31
Quintasanwatwatwat07:31
yofelshadeslayer: hm, missing DH_VERBOSE?07:31
Quintasanshadeslayer: look who is here07:32
jussiQuintasan: which part didnt you understand? :D07:32
shadeslayermmm07:32
* jussi hides07:32
yofelod dh_lintian doesn't do a full check07:32
Quintasanjussi: I totally failed to comprehend the part where you show up on irc07:32
Quintasan:P07:32
yofel*or07:32
yofelah, that's something else07:32
shadeslayeryofel: build logs show dh_lintian being run, but no output07:33
Quintasanjussi: don't hide on me, go to work!07:33
Quintasan:P07:33
yofelshadeslayer: yeah, but that's because it's just for copying the override files07:34
yofelso that's ok07:34
shadeslayerhm07:34
shadeslayerlet's wait for kdiamond to build07:35
yofelhttp://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.9.98_raring.html - I can't find anything in the logs07:35
shadeslayeryeah07:37
shadeslayergosh, kdeartwork is huge07:38
yofelyou don't say ;P07:40
shadeslayerhehe07:40
yofelkde-wallpapers is the new kdeartwork07:41
yofeland they don't seem to remove stuff from artwork anymore :/07:41
shadeslayerpoor dpkg07:49
shadeslayertrying to install shank which is a 2GB deb07:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer:  i can't understand the clauses 9.1.1, 9.1.4, 9.5, 10.7.4, 11.8 in the standards version 3.9.3. I have checked and updated the rest07:51
yofelnote: we don't really care about the policy version usually07:52
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok07:53
yofelthe ubuntu-policy is still at 3.8.2, so that's all we really need to comply with07:53
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok07:53
yofelknowing the policy is good though ;)07:53
yofelas we do try to follow it, we just rarely update that number07:53
phoenix_firebrdyofel: it seems that the package is upto the standards, sahall i bump the standards version?07:54
shadeslayerplease don't bump standards07:54
shadeslayerunnecessary diff07:54
shadeslayerfrom debian that is07:54
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: why did you ask me to take a look at the lintian error?07:55
shadeslayerbecause it needs fixing?07:55
shadeslayerwithout bumping the standards version07:56
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: why not?07:56
yofel^07:56
shadeslayerbecause it makes merging from debian easier07:56
yofelwell, merging 4.10 will be fun anyway - if debian ever gets to package it in time for us07:56
yofellag -.-07:56
shadeslayerwhy do you want to bump the standards version?07:57
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok in that case the package is updated to the new standards and i wont bump the version number so the lintian warning will remain , whats next?07:57
* yofel wonders if importing debian git packaging into bzr and merging that would work07:58
yofelprobably not07:58
shadeslayerwat07:58
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: next?07:58
yofelshadeslayer: nvm, me. I haven't had enough coffee yet :P07:58
yofelshadeslayer: hm, stuck at uploading kdeartwork?08:01
shadeslayeryofel: heh, yes kdiamond_4.10.0-0ubuntu1\~ubuntu13.04\~ppa1.dsc       08:01
shadeslayererm08:01
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: after updating the package standards, what should i do?08:01
yofelheh, ok08:01
shadeslayeryou shouldn't update standards!!08:01
shadeslayeryofel: http://i.imgur.com/IOF1XRz.png08:02
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: then what should i do with the lintian error?08:02
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: fix it? :P08:02
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: how?08:02
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: "W: kfloppy source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.2 (current is 3.9.3)"08:02
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: thats the error08:02
shadeslayerwhut08:03
shadeslayernot that one08:03
shadeslayerthe other oen08:03
shadeslayer*one08:03
shadeslayerE: kfloppy source: malformed-override Override of dbg-package-missing-depends for kdeutils (expecting kfloppy) at line 108:03
shadeslayerapparently we were talking about 2 different errors altogether :P08:03
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: you can ignore that warning08:03
phoenix_firebrdshit08:04
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i will look at the other one08:04
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i can see the error that you pointed in the debuild log http://paste.kde.org/661100/08:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: *i can't08:07
shadeslayerO_O08:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: version is 4.9.9808:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: am i wrong or what?08:08
shadeslayerlemme check08:08
shadeslayeryes08:08
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ??08:09
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/661106/08:09
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: may be this happens with v4.1008:10
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: how can i get the 4.10 tar?08:10
shadeslayermmm08:11
shadeslayeryou'll have to request access08:11
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: shall i try with the master?08:11
shadeslayerno08:11
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok08:11
shadeslayerwho has admin access to ninjas?08:12
phoenix_firebrdyofel: 08:12
shadeslayerRiddell and apachelogger 08:12
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: btw can you branch the packaging from bzr and use that?08:13
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: for kfloppy?08:13
shadeslayeryes08:13
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok\08:13
yofelphoenix_firebrd: about that error, just bzr rm the override file. kfloppy has no dbg package08:18
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok08:18
phoenix_firebrdyofel: when i builddeb kfloppy  am getting this error "apt could not find the needed tarball.08:20
phoenix_firebrd"08:20
yofelyeah, because you don't have the 4.10 one :/08:20
yofelor are you building 4.9.98?08:21
yofelin that case you would be missing a deb-src line08:21
phoenix_firebrdyofel: when i bzr branch kfloppy what would i get?08:21
yofel4.10, nvm08:22
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so ?08:22
yofelwait08:22
phoenix_firebrdok08:22
yofelphoenix_firebrd: pm08:24
shadeslayeryofel: stuck on uploading kdeartwork :|08:25
shadeslayer  Uploading kdeartwork_4.10.0.orig.tar.xz: 140132k/140133k08:25
yofelheh08:25
yofelo.O08:25
yofelwait and hope :/08:25
shadeslayeryeag08:33
shadeslayer:S08:37
shadeslayerI'll upload kdeartwork and oxygen separately08:38
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: I am not getting the error that you pointed for kfloppy 4.10 . here is the builddeb log http://paste.kde.org/661184/08:45
soeegood morning08:45
shadeslayerhm08:46
shadeslayerlintian too old?08:46
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: what version of lintian are you running?08:46
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: 2.5.10.208:47
shadeslayercan you check with 2.5.11?08:47
* yofel as looking at the lintian changelog08:48
yofelwth is       - license-problem-json-evil08:48
shadeslayerlol08:48
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is there a ppa for it?08:48
shadeslayerhmm08:48
yofelphoenix_firebrd: try just pulling the deb from raring08:49
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: just grab the lintian deb from raring?08:49
phoenix_firebrdok08:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: yofel there is no amd64 build08:51
shadeslayerbecause it's an arch any package08:52
shadeslayeror was it arch all08:52
yofelall08:52
shadeslayerright08:52
shadeslayerI get confused easily between those two, always have to look it up 08:52
* yofel suggests s/all/indep/ -.-08:52
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: standards 3.9.3 has an update for that08:52
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: update for what?08:53
yofelthen again, all makes some sense syntactically08:53
shadeslayerright08:53
shadeslayeryofel: it makes sense if you also know about any08:53
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: directions for using all or any for the arch08:53
shadeslayerokay, and?08:53
shadeslayernew symbols in kdelibs? :(08:54
phoenix_firebrdi am getting that error now08:55
phoenix_firebrdas yofel said i am going to remove the override files08:56
shadeslayerwait what08:56
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer:  "about that error, just bzr rm the override file. kfloppy has no dbg package"08:58
shadeslayerI don't see a override file08:59
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: me too08:59
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i am going to check for the configs08:59
shadeslayerahh nvm08:59
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: drop debian/source/lintian-overrides09:00
phoenix_firebrdright09:00
shadeslayerwho's up for packaging ktp-desktop-applets?09:01
yofelyou :P09:03
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: should i push to my branch and request a merge?09:03
yofelor phoenix_firebrd09:03
shadeslayeryep09:03
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok09:03
phoenix_firebrdyofel: sure09:04
shadeslayerI'm working on kde bits today09:04
yofelphoenix_firebrd: just push to your branch and post the branch URL09:04
shadeslayerthe sc bits09:04
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ya, just now i did for kdiamond09:04
yofelmerge requests are just too much paperwork if we're already on IRC09:05
shadeslayerheh09:06
shadeslayersometimes it's good to know the paperwork works ;)09:06
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i am following what you taught me09:06
yofelyeah, I did teach him how to do it09:06
yofelphoenix_firebrd: sure, but it's not really needed if we're already talking here. Merge requests make sense for complex reviews and when the reviewer isn't at hand09:07
yofelwth09:08
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok. here is the link https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/kubuntu-packaging/kfloppy-4.10.009:09
yofel"Not attempting to fix packaging branch ancestry, missing pristine tar data for version 4.9.98."09:09
phoenix_firebrdwhats that error?09:09
yofelno idea, first time I see it09:09
phoenix_firebrdyofel: which package?09:10
yofelphoenix_firebrd: http://paste.kde.org/66119609:10
yofela) please don't add empty changelog entries09:10
phoenix_firebrdomg09:11
yofelb) that doesn't look like the right fix09:11
phoenix_firebrdmy head is getting heated09:11
yofellol, calm down, no harm done09:11
yofelthat's why we're doing the reviews09:11
yofelI think the problem here is that there's a missing empty line missing between the 2 copyright sections09:12
yofels/missing//09:12
kubotuyofel meant: "I think the problem here is that there's a  empty line missing between the 2 copyright sections"09:12
yofelthat's invalid syntax09:12
yofelsee http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/09:13
phoenix_firebrdwhom should i follow you or shadeslayer09:13
* yofel reads backlog09:13
yofelhe didn't tell you *how* to fix it09:14
yofeland you didn't fix it right09:14
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i uploaded with a changelog, asked me to remove it09:14
yofelthe reason lintian complains about a duplicate field, is because each chunk in the copyright file is seperated by an empty line09:14
yofelas the line is missing both license declarations belong to the same paragraph, which is invalid09:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: thats ok09:15
yofelphoenix_firebrd: hm, the changelog was still there though09:15
yofeldid you forget to push maybe?09:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: should i meantion the copyright file change in the changelog?09:16
yofelprobably not worth it09:16
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so  i don't have to update the change log now right?09:17
yofelor it would be an entry like "* Fix <lintian_error_name>"09:17
yofelphoenix_firebrd: this is really all that should be needed for kdiamond: http://paste.kde.org/66120209:17
phoenix_firebrdi will be back in 2 mins09:17
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i am back09:21
phoenix_firebrdyofel: can we take this step by step09:21
yofelhm, kfloppy:09:23
yofel- -- Rohan Garg <rohangarg@kubuntu.org>  Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:18:16 +053009:23
yofel+ -- Prasad Murthy <phoenix_firebrd@yahoo.com>  Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:18:16 +053009:23
yofelyou changed the dch behaviour? (just curious)09:24
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ya09:24
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so that debuild will sign09:24
yofelaaaaah09:24
yofelwait, I have a workaround for that09:24
phoenix_firebrdyofel: -us -uc?09:25
yofelno09:25
yofelin ~/.devscripts put: DEBSIGN_KEYID=2EC0A9FF, except with your keyid instead of mine09:25
yofelthat'll force it to use your key and ignore the changelog entry09:25
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok09:26
yofelit's meant as a kind of safety measure, as you can always -us -uc and run debsing after that09:26
yofelbut I find it mostly annoying09:26
yofelbut back to the review: please don't *commit* such a change, as it's just unnecessary noise when reviewing09:27
yofelit's not wrong, and once you have commit permissions feel free to commit that, but for reviews it's just noise09:27
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok09:28
shadeslayerheh09:28
shadeslayerI just aliased debsign to debsign -kkey09:29
yofelwell, that works too09:29
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: can you give me the syntax?09:29
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: I put alias debsign='debsign -kF2672094' in my zshrc09:30
* shadeslayer rages at dput09:30
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i have updated the ~/.devscripts , now going to look at the copyright file09:32
yofelphoenix_firebrd: about the copyright file: a dep5 copyright file has roughly the same syntax as a control file regarding spaces and empty lines09:37
yofelthe current one violates that09:37
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i can see that its missing an empty line09:37
yofelexactly09:37
phoenix_firebrdyofel: but it says it detects duplicate field?09:38
yofelyeah, because the current paragraph has 2 License: fields (thanks to the missing line)09:38
phoenix_firebrdyofel: oh09:38
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok i will update and upload09:38
yofelthose are 2 paragraphs glued together causing a double definition09:39
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok09:39
Riddellmorning09:49
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: MORNING09:49
phoenix_firebrdoops09:50
apacheloggeryo Riddell09:50
yofelmoin09:50
apacheloggerstill needs a review: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc 09:50
* apachelogger pokes shadeslayer09:50
Riddellooh 142 new tars09:50
Riddellsheytan: you're onto them?09:51
shadeslayerif you meant me, then yes09:51
shadeslayeralmost done09:51
Riddelltab completion fail09:51
shadeslayerstill need to upload kdeplasma-addons, oxygen-icons, kde-wallpapers, and kdeartwork09:52
Riddellshadeslayer: you've got the bandwidth for that?09:55
shadeslayerI don't think so :P09:55
shadeslayeryou're welcome to take over those 4 if you want09:55
shadeslayerkdeplasma-addons need fixing in bzr firsst09:56
sheytanRiddell on what?09:56
phoenix_firebrdyofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/kubuntu-packaging/kdiamond-4.10.009:58
Riddellsheytan: sorry I ment shadeslayer 09:59
Riddellshadeslayer: ok I'll get onto them10:00
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: thanks, merging that in10:01
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: ty10:01
shadeslayernew kdepim tarball as well btw10:01
yofelshadeslayer: I'm on that10:02
shadeslayerawesome10:02
shadeslayerI'll step out for a bit then10:02
sheytanno problem. Happens to few ppl :D10:05
yofelshadeslayer: when are you going to upload the rest?10:05
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=raring&batch=200 shows plenty as missing10:05
shadeslayeryofel: already being uploaded10:05
yofelah ok then10:06
shadeslayerit's uploading kstars at the moment10:06
yofelmost of that'll be fast, I mostly want the libs up10:06
shadeslayeryep10:07
shadeslayerit's weird though, I've been throttled to about 512Kbps for uploads10:08
Riddellyou should have asked for an ec210:14
* yofel wipes the old precise packages from ninjas to free some space up10:17
shadeslayerRiddell: too much of a hassle to setup and then everything downloaded at a good rate of 2 Mbps10:21
apacheloggermake it a charm10:23
apachelogger\o/10:23
* apachelogger is using words he does not understand now10:23
shadeslayerheh10:23
Riddellactually I went to the cloud dev room at the last uds and tried to do that and it wasn't possible10:23
Riddellseems copying a gpg key to a ec2 is too complex or something10:23
shadeslayer0.o10:24
shadeslayeryou're kidding right?10:24
apacheloggereh10:24
apacheloggerRiddell: remotesign10:24
apacheloggeralso I doubt the key is the only thing you need10:24
Riddellyeah we got stuck in a few places10:24
Riddelljuju is surprisingly complex just to do what a simple bash script can easily do10:25
apacheloggerwell10:25
apacheloggerformalizing always comes at a price ^^10:25
Riddellyes and there will be reasons for that complexity, it's just a shame that it's complex even for a juju developer10:26
shadeslayerok everything is up10:36
Riddellwhat to do about l10n?10:38
Riddelljust throw it up on release day? or faff around with putting in a PPA and probably running out of space10:39
shadeslayerjust throw it up on release day, fix as needed10:39
=== JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine
yofelvHanda: nepomuk-core commit c65f9cad breaks ABI of libnepomukcore4: http://paste.kde.org/66131611:12
* yofel -> lunch11:13
BluesKajHiyas all11:20
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: hi11:23
BluesKajhi phoenix_firebrd11:24
Riddellshadeslayer: hmm you probably did sensible, uploading from an ec2 to launchpad seems to be uber slow11:29
shadeslayerheh11:30
shadeslayeruse my server?11:30
yofelyou could've used mine...11:35
yofelthen again, that was starved for bandwidth too earlier11:36
phoenix_firebrdyofel: tomboy-blogposter builds11:39
vHandayofel: Removing a private function breaks ABI?11:47
vHandaare you sure?11:47
yofelis that Private?11:48
yofelif it is then nevermind, but it doesn't obviously look private to me11:48
apacheloggervHanda: removing a private function always breaks ABI11:50
apacheloggerthe impact of it depends on other factors though (for example whether the class/function is virtual)11:50
Riddellyou can "remove private non-virtual functions if they are not called by any inline functions (and have never been). " says http://techbase.kde.org/Policies/Binary_Compatibility_Issues_With_C++11:51
Riddellthat one is a "private Q_SLOTS:"11:52
Riddellso that's fine I think11:52
apacheloggerit still breaks the ABI, it is however a binary compatible change11:52
Riddellis it ABI if it's a bit of the interface you can't use?11:53
apachelogger(the restrictedness of when it is a ok to remove a private is why one should generally avoid having privates)11:53
apacheloggerRiddell: you can use it11:53
apacheloggerABI is really no philosophical topic :)11:55
Riddellhmm11:55
apacheloggerBC is to some extent ^^11:55
Riddellanyway yofel you'll handle that?11:55
apacheloggerRiddell: on the library level there is no difference between private and public11:55
apacheloggerso I could link to the privates all the same11:55
Riddell'#define private public' is evil!11:56
yofelyeah, as soon as apachelogger is finished explaining...11:56
apacheloggeractually let me speed this up11:56
vHandayofel: Do you want me to add the private slot again?11:56
apacheloggerwhenever a binary interface disappears the change breaks ABI :P11:56
apacheloggerwhether that binary interface was from a private or not does not matter in that regard11:56
apachelogger</storymode>11:57
RiddellvHanda: no it's fine11:57
vHandayofel: I'll have to run it by the release team11:57
vHandaoh11:57
Riddellapachelogger is just confusing matters!11:57
yofelok, he did manage to confuse me at least11:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: how so? aren't privates not supposed to be exposed in the symbols file?11:58
Riddellyes the symbol has gone, no nothing uses it, so there's no problem11:58
apachelogger:(11:58
apacheloggerRiddell: it's a library11:58
apacheloggerthe statement nothing uses it is simply wrong11:58
yofelso what would use it?11:58
apacheloggeranything can use it so we must assume something uses it11:58
yofeloutside of the library11:58
shadeslayerbut if it's private, how can something use it?11:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: #define private public11:59
apachelogger#include <yourlib.h>11:59
shadeslayerbah11:59
shadeslayerif you do that11:59
shadeslayerthen that11:59
apacheloggerFoo foo; foo.yourprivates();11:59
shadeslayerthen that's just shit 11:59
shadeslayerand evil11:59
vHandaapachelogger: That's a neat trick. I didn't know you could do that!11:59
yofelI'm fairly certain we don't support *that*11:59
apacheloggerit does not matter!11:59
apacheloggerwhen talking about ABI any time you retract an interface it is breaking ABI11:59
apacheloggerwhen talking about BC if you decided to link against a private then that is your fault12:00
RiddellvHanda: now you're just winding us up!12:00
yofelI think we can conclude that this is BC and go on with our lives12:00
Riddellyofel++12:00
shadeslayer*nod*12:01
yofelvHanda: so, sorry for the more or less false alarm12:01
vHandauhm, okay. I'm still preparing a patch just in case someone else objects.12:01
vHandaThe tarballs aren't going to get re-spun until monday12:02
vHandaso we have till then to decide if this should be fixed.12:02
vHandahttp://paste.kde.org/66137012:03
apacheloggervHanda: btw, not sure if kde wants to use it but there is Q_PRIVATE_SLOT12:04
apacheloggerit allows you to pass the slot call to the d ptr12:06
apacheloggerand it expands to nothing in c++ so you end up having no symbol for the slot as the slot is entirely handled via the qmetaobject 12:06
Riddelluseful note: ec2's in ireland upload to launchpad much faster than those in the US12:08
shadeslayerRiddell: isn't LP based out of the UK12:19
shadeslayerlike, hosted somewhere in the UK12:19
Riddellyes, london12:19
RiddellI remember persia saying he would never use UDD because bzr takes many days to do a checkout from launchpad12:20
Riddellfor him in japan12:20
Riddellhowever ec2s are more expensive in ireland, despite being in a tax haven12:21
* yofel times checking out kde-worspace just for fun12:22
yofelhm, ~70MB in about a minute, not as bad as I feared12:24
Riddellbah my addition of QextSerialPort to marble didn't get pushed12:42
Riddellah yofel is on the case, good good12:44
phoenix_firebrdbbl12:51
smartboyhwGood evening12:54
Riddellhi smartboyhw 12:54
smartboyhwHi Riddell 12:54
Riddell4.10.0 being packaged12:54
Riddellhttp://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas12:54
smartboyhwRiddell, that is good:)12:55
shadeslayerRiddell: hm, odd, I thought S3 was *cheaper* in Ireland12:55
shadeslayerwhich was one of the reasons we chose the instance to be in Ireland12:55
shadeslayeras for bzr, it's painfully slow :(12:56
yofelweird bug of the day: bug 111136412:57
ubottubug 1111364 in Kubuntu PPA "Dophin crashes when copying files on KDE 4.10 RC3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111136412:57
yofelquantal-only12:57
smartboyhwRiddell, you want me to update ktorrent? new version out (4.3.1)12:58
yofelthen there is bug 1107692 which is quantal-only too, happens only with the digikam-rc and I don't get what the issue is12:58
ubottubug 1107692 in Kubuntu PPA "digikam crashes after loading" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/110769212:58
Riddellsmartboyhw: yes please12:58
smartboyhwRiddell, well request sync bug then:p12:58
yofeldon't forget about libktorrent12:58
smartboyhwDon't know that it is maintained by Debian side12:59
yofel libktorrent | 1.3.1-1         | experimental      | source12:59
BluesKajsystem settings crashes when opening user management12:59
smartboyhwHow do you request syncs?12:59
yofelBluesKaj: still?12:59
yofelBluesKaj: and with what backtrace?12:59
yofel(I'm not surprised that it doesn't work, but it shouldn't *crash*)13:00
BluesKajok yofel . I was mistaken , noe I get the "orphaned module " message 13:01
BluesKajnow13:01
yofelah ok, then it crashed once to reload the lib13:01
smartboyhwRiddell, I think it will be up to the sponsors to do the actual syncing of ktorrent....So probably it will be difficult for me to do it13:01
BluesKajwell , yofel I still don't have access 13:03
yofelBluesKaj: that's because the userconfig module doesn't work with python3. 13:04
yofelthat'll be the next thing to do13:04
BluesKajok , thanks yofel13:04
yofelwhich reminds me...13:05
Riddellsmartboyhw: I can do that if you file the bugs13:06
smartboyhwRiddell, ok:)13:06
yofelScottK: any ideas about this: http://paste.kde.org/661502 - that's caused by ki18n() when using python313:14
yofelki18n("Sebastian Kügler".encode('utf-8')) works, but we can hardly do that for all utf-8 strings13:16
smartboyhwRiddell, can't seem to find whether ktorrent is in Debian experimental main or non-free or anything else....13:18
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yofelsmartboyhw: it's in experimental http://paste.kde.org/66158013:19
=== Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__
smartboyhwyofel, experimental I know, but is it main or non-free?13:19
Riddellsmartboyhw: packages.debian.org is your friend13:20
smartboyhwThe Sync wiki page says I need to include that...13:20
smartboyhwRiddell, searching through packages.debian.org and I still can't find it...13:20
Riddellif it doesn't say anything it'll be in main13:20
smartboyhwRiddell, main then13:20
yofelScottK: note that the utf-8 issue above is python3.2, I'll try it later with 3.313:23
smartboyhwRiddell, Bug 111145213:23
ubottubug 1111452 in Ubuntu "Please sync ktorrent 4.3.1-1 from Debian experimental main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111145213:23
=== smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw
smartboyhwRiddell, bug 111145813:36
ubottubug 1111458 in libktorrent (Ubuntu) "Please sync libktorrent 1.3.1-1 from Debian experimental main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/111145813:36
=== Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw
ScottKyofel: That might be different in 3.3.13:45
RiddellScottK: bug 1066225 refixed13:48
ubottubug 1066225 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt home folder needs to be checkbox not radio button" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106622513:48
ScottKRiddell: Excellent.  Thanks.13:48
smartboyhwRiddell, so nothing for me to "play" with now?13:53
Riddellsmartboyhw: check what needs done on 4.10 http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.0_raring.html13:54
smartboyhwRiddell, I do see some build failures...13:54
smartboyhwNo access to build logs though...13:54
yofelthose should just be archive skew I belive (libkdeedu related)13:54
Riddellsmartboyhw: oh I'll put you in the team13:56
smartboyhwRiddell, ooh?13:56
Riddellwe're not precious about it :)   it's only hidden because upstream wants it hidden until release 13:57
yofelRiddell: mind adding phonix_firebird too unless you think he needs more time? I'll tell him what not to do later then13:57
Riddellyofel: what's his username?13:57
yofel~murthy13:57
smartboyhwRiddell, ok13:58
smartboyhwthx13:58
Riddellvoila13:58
yofelthanks :)13:58
smartboyhwlibkmajjongglib-dev failed...13:58
yofelarchive skew, just retry the build13:59
yofelhm, having a link to the build from the status page would be nice...13:59
smartboyhwWeird, why is ksnakeduel i386 showing a failure, when the logs said it is perfectly built?14:01
yofelsmartboyhw: list-missing should be empty14:02
yofelbut in this case the output looks weird14:02
smartboyhwLots of .png and .desktop files14:02
yofelwth14:03
yofelah no, makes sense14:04
yofelsmartboyhw: a transitional package was added which is only built on i386 as it's arch "all", but nobody added an install file for ksnakeduel14:04
smartboyhwyofel, oh should I add one?14:05
yofelso the package needs ksnakeduel.install with "usr/*" in it14:05
yofelsmartboyhw: yeah, but please do so in bzr as well14:05
smartboyhwyofel, OK14:05
smartboyhwyofel, where is the branch?14:06
yofelsmartboyhw: usually it's best to add it in bzr and generate the package from there14:06
yofelsmartboyhw: do you have kubuntu-dev-tools installed?14:06
yofelthen it's just 'kbzr co ksnakeduel"14:06
* smartboyhw finds himself a total idiot today14:06
yofelhey, everyone was new at some point ;P14:07
yofel*sigh*14:09
* yofel goes fixing kolabxml properly14:09
smartboyhwWhy I couldn't install the ppa for kubuntu-dev-tools?14:09
smartboyhwCannot access PPA (https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~bulldog98/+archive/kubuntu-dev-tool) to get PPA information, please check your internet connection.14:10
smartboyhw*sigh* use the manual method then14:10
yofelthat's weird o.O14:13
smartboyhwyofel, anyway got it now, syncing14:14
smartboyhwyofel, added. Which place should I upload the branch to?14:20
yofelif you're not a kubuntu-member yet, put it in lp:~<your_id>/kubuntu-packaging/ksnakeduel-4.10 or so14:21
yofelthen give me the url14:21
smartboyhwyofel, error14:22
smartboyhwbzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(chroot-75337488:///~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ksnakeduel/.bzr/branch/lock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport 14:22
smartboyhw!?14:23
yofelah, run 'bzr unbind' first. Checkout binds commit to the original launchpad location14:23
yofelforgot about that. Next time use 'kbzr branch <pkg>'14:24
smartboyhwOK14:24
yofeleither that ^ or launchpad doesn't know you or your ssh key14:24
smartboyhwyofel, https://code.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/kubuntu-packaging/ksnakeduel-4.10/14:25
yofelsmartboyhw: please add something to the changelog too, just run 'dch' in the branch dir and it'll add you to the current entry14:26
yofelsmartboyhw: ah wait14:27
smartboyhw!?14:27
smartboyhwAlmost added it:P14:27
yofelnevermind, the entry is already there (see 4.9.98), Riddell just didn't actually add the file to bzr...14:27
smartboyhwyofel, :O14:28
yofelwell, happens14:28
yofelmerged14:29
smartboyhwyofel, thx14:29
yofelsmartboyhw: now update the packagin in the PPA so it gets a clean status14:29
yofel*package14:29
smartboyhwyofel, so I bzr builddeb -S and upload it to PPA?14:30
smartboyhwOr anything?14:30
yofelfirst add ~ubuntu13.04~ppa2 to the version, change UNRELEASED to raring, then upload after bzr builddeb -S -- -sd14:30
yofelbut don't commit those changes14:30
smartboyhwyofel: OK14:31
smartboyhwyofel, when you mean commit you mean locally?14:34
yofelyeah, bzr builddeb will use uncomitted changes14:34
yofelok, with new libkolabxml kdepim-runtime will only need a simple retry in a bit14:35
smartboyhwyofel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1593234/14:36
yofelaaah14:38
yofelok14:38
yofelgive me a minute14:38
yofelyou need a deb-src line for the PPA14:38
smartboyhwyofel, I have14:38
smartboyhwyofel, you mean for the ninja ppa?14:38
yofelright14:39
smartboyhwk14:39
yofelsmartboyhw: go to your launchpad page, click on "View your private PPA subscriptions", there beside ninjas, click on view14:40
yofelthat will have the apt lines with your PPA password14:40
smartboyhwyofel, thanks14:40
yofelinstall apt-transport-https before adding that14:41
yofelafter that apt-get update and bzr will be happy14:41
yofeloh, it's almost dev week time14:47
yofelshadeslayer: ^14:47
shadeslayerah thanks for reminding me14:47
smartboyhwyofel, uploaded to PPA14:50
yofel\o/14:50
smartboyhw\o/14:50
shadeslayeryofel: iirc they had automated testing sessions at UDS14:57
shadeslayerUTAH or sth like that14:57
yofelah, all I remember is that they have a jenkins instance for some things14:57
shadeslayerCanonical also has an automated testing lab14:57
shadeslayerthought that's mostly private afaik14:58
* yofel grumbles something about chroot problems15:20
yofelhi phoenix_firebrd15:20
phoenix_firebrdyofel: HI15:21
phoenix_firebrdoops15:21
phoenix_firebrdcapslock is on15:21
yofelphoenix_firebrd: you got promoted while you were away: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa15:21
phoenix_firebrdnice15:21
phoenix_firebrdthank you very much15:21
yofelso now you can actually see https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=raring&batch=20015:22
yofeland open the build logs on http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.0_raring.html15:22
phoenix_firebrdchecking15:22
shadeslayeronly with FF though15:22
yofellol15:23
shadeslayerwith chrom{e,ium} you can't open the build logs15:23
phoenix_firebrdwhy so?15:23
shadeslayerI have FF installed just so that I can look at the build logs15:23
shadeslayerbug in LP / Chrome15:23
shadeslayernot sure which15:23
yofelsmartboyhw, phoenix_firebrd: one thing about ~kubuntu-ninjas membership: it also grants you upload rights to kubuntu-ppa/*, please be careful there15:23
phoenix_firebrdomg15:23
phoenix_firebrdsure15:23
phoenix_firebrddo i get a email id too?15:24
yofelno, that's for kubuntu members15:24
phoenix_firebrdok15:24
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i not touch the kubuntu-ppa until you find me fit15:25
phoenix_firebrdyofel: *i will not15:25
shadeslayeryofel: question time btw15:25
phoenix_firebrdyofel: are you free now?15:26
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: what time do you go to bed?15:26
yofelnot too much, but a quick question's ok15:26
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: I don't think shadeslayer goes to bed15:26
smartboyhwyofel, ok15:26
shadeslayer:P15:26
phoenix_firebrdwow15:26
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so thats why the nick?15:27
shadeslayerit's quite random actually, anything between 10 PM to 5 AM15:27
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: my sleep cycle was like yours 1 month before, just had it reset15:27
shadeslayerheh15:27
Riddell+ [laney] get maliit in the archive: DONE15:28
Riddellooh, well done Quintasan 15:28
shadeslayermy sleep cycle changes every 2 weeks15:28
yofelwhat15:28
yofel\o/15:28
yofelQuintasan++15:28
shadeslayernice :)15:28
Riddellvery generous of Quintasan to let laney take all the credit15:28
shadeslayerso now we have a keyboard , but no declarative-plasmoids 15:28
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i was observing the actives in this channel from the morning, I can't figure out the procedure of tagging 15:29
yofelphoenix_firebrd: tagging is meant as "create git tags in KDE svn/git and spin tarballs from that"15:29
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: mine shifts 1 hr everyday, delayed sleep syndrome15:29
* shadeslayer looks that up15:29
yofelphoenix_firebrd: the kde-release-team folks do that, we just get the tars after that15:30
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ya, thats right15:30
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so did the tars are available for packaging?15:31
yofelphoenix_firebrd: the 4.10.0 release is a week away, till then the release team may re-spin some tarballs if some bugfixes need to get in15:31
yofelpretty much15:31
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok15:31
yofelactually, kdepim got recreated today for that reaosn15:31
yofel*reason15:31
phoenix_firebrdyofel: the argument about the ABI?15:31
yofelthat's why you'll find kdepim 4.10.0a in the ppa as that's the only way for us to update it15:31
yofelno, that was something different15:32
phoenix_firebrdyofel: if i am not mistaken the pim stuff is always problematic?15:32
shadeslayerheh no15:33
yofelwell, a bit15:33
yofelshadeslayer: seems we disagree :P15:33
shadeslayerdepends on what you call problematic :P15:33
yofelbut maybe i just have a trauma from uploading kdepim 4.715:33
shadeslayerI call it unusable xD15:33
yofellol15:33
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i mostly see a known issue that saying about pim stuff15:33
shadeslayerI simply cannot import all of my email into KMail15:33
yofelwell, it's not that bad, it just doesn't scale15:33
shadeslayerright, it doesn't scale15:34
shadeslayerit'll just take a batshit amount of time to import my email 15:34
yofelphoenix_firebrd: with respinning tars I mean this btw. http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2013-January/006809.html15:34
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i like kdepim15:34
yofeloh right, talking about mailing lists15:34
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: my first patch was for akonadi backup15:35
yofelthere's 2 that are relevant here: release-team@kde.org, which is mostly not interesting for us, but public. Then there's kde-packager@kde.org which is relevant to us but private to packagers15:35
yofelwe need to get you added to the 2nd one eventually15:35
yofelsame with smartboyhw15:35
shadeslayeractually the release team does get cc'd for the tars right?15:35
shadeslayerkde-packagers is mostly irrelevant from what I gathered at Akademy15:36
yofelyeah, tsdgeos always sends the mails to packager, release-team, and qa15:36
yofelit does feel a bit deprecated lately...15:36
shadeslayerit does have the odd interesting discussion ;)15:36
shadeslayers/odd/occassional/15:36
phoenix_firebrdyofel:should i join this now ? kde-packager@kde.org15:36
kubotushadeslayer meant: "it does have the occassional interesting discussion ;)"15:37
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: you'll have to open a sysadmin bug report15:37
shadeslayerand ask Riddell to ack it15:37
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: am i qualified?15:37
shadeslayerqualified for what? reading emails? idk you tell me :D15:38
yofelrelease-team has more fun discussions lately15:38
yofelhttp://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2013-January/date.html15:38
phoenix_firebrd:D15:38
phoenix_firebrdso which one should i join now?15:39
shadeslayerboth15:39
phoenix_firebrdyofel: I have successfully built the tomboy-blogposter, can you check my build log?15:39
yofelthen release-team will be enough for now15:39
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok15:40
yofelbug Riddell about packagers sometime15:40
yofelphoenix_firebrd: as I said, I don't know enough about mono packages to QA that15:40
shadeslayer#ubuntu-motu15:40
shadeslayerthat channel probably has mono ninjas lurking in every corner15:41
phoenix_firebrdyofel: no just the common errors15:41
yofelnot now then, maybe I'll have some time later15:41
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: its just that i am not confident enough to assume that i have suceeded in building this 15:42
phoenix_firebrdyofel: thats ok15:42
phoenix_firebrdyofel: if its not a problem can i put it in my ppa?15:42
shadeslayerwell15:43
shadeslayerthere's #ubuntu-packaging15:43
phoenix_firebrdwhat for?15:43
yofelphoenix_firebrd: sure, but if you already want a review you might as well get someone competent to do it15:43
shadeslayerit's a channel specifically for people starting out with packaging15:43
yofels/starting out//15:44
kubotuyofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"15:44
smartboyhwyofel, oh what did I miss?15:44
shadeslayeryofel: people with packaging? :D15:44
phoenix_firebrdyofel: more like a patient one15:44
yofelerr... yeah :D15:44
yofelsmartboyhw: the mailing lists you might care about if you plan to work on kde sc releases15:45
smartboyhwyofel, ok15:45
phoenix_firebrdyofel:  shadeslayer . tomboy-blogposter log http://paste.kde.org/661886/15:47
phoenix_firebrd"Compilation succeeded - 2 warning(s)" does that mean i have a binary?15:48
shadeslayerlooks fine15:48
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer:  wow15:48
shadeslayerbut don't take my word for it15:48
yofelthe build worked, whether the package works I don't know15:49
shadeslayerthat ^15:49
* yofel broke libkolabxml15:49
yofelbah15:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i have been repeatedly bulding this from 2 days, atleast it build now, i will check it deeply further15:49
shadeslayerkewl15:50
phoenix_firebrdyofel: what did you do?15:50
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: kewl , the hindi word?15:50
yofelI made it libkolabxml-dev depend on the libs that its cmake config file wants. But libcurl4 has more than just the gnutls variant15:50
yofelwhich causes conflicts15:51
shadeslayerkewl is a hindi word? drat15:51
yofelphoenix_firebrd: causing https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/4261395/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.kdepim-runtime_4%3A4.10.0-0ubuntu1%7Eubuntu13.04%7Eppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:51
shadeslayerI need to stop using that word, urban dictionary has a definition for it :|15:51
shadeslayer... and it's not pretty15:52
phoenix_firebrdyofel: getting a 40415:52
yofelthen you don't use firefox :D15:52
phoenix_firebrdyofel: chromium15:52
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/426139415:52
phoenix_firebrdyofel: let me check with ff15:52
shadeslayerlike I said15:53
* yofel uploaded a fix in the meantime15:53
shadeslayereverything except rekonq and FF fails15:53
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ha ha ha15:53
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: the urban dictionary 15:53
shadeslayer:P15:54
smartboyhwyofel, suscribed to release-team15:54
smartboyhwgood night everyone!15:54
phoenix_firebrdgoing to register for the mailing list15:58
phoenix_firebrdyofel:  this one kde-packager@kde.org  or this one release-team@kde.org ?16:00
phoenix_firebrdI saw Riddell uds 2012 interview and i am very inspired16:01
yofelwell, both16:02
yofelpackagers would be enough for your purposes I guess16:02
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok16:02
shadeslayerfor the former you need to open a sysadmin bug report16:02
yofelbut some people don't make a distinction there16:03
shadeslayerand ask Riddell to vet it16:03
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: ooh where is that?16:04
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: youtube16:04
phoenix_firebrdr^16:04
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: ^16:04
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: I feel like you have become a celeb for some of us16:04
shadeslayerheh, I was sitting a couple of feet from Riddell when he gave that interview16:05
shadeslayerRiddell: you haven't seen it yet? :P16:05
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: awesome16:05
Riddellfor any fans, I'll be signing copies of my autobiography at FOSDEM this weekend http://open-advice.org/16:06
shadeslayerlol16:06
yofel:D16:06
BluesKaj...BBL16:06
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: with a gpg key?16:06
Riddellyeah less wrist strain that way :)16:07
phoenix_firebrdfor the pdf16:07
RiddellBlizzzek: you guys coming to fosdem?16:08
phoenix_firebrdthe most inspiring was how people came forward to contribute to kubuntu and how the team handles them16:08
BlizzzekRiddell: at least Frank and Björn will be there16:08
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phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: I have applied for the kde-packagers mailing list, will it get accepted eventually?16:37
shadeslayerdid you open a bug report on bugs.kde.org16:37
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: no without that?16:37
shadeslayernope then16:37
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: why so?16:37
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is this an elite list?16:38
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: historically that's how it works16:39
shadeslayerhttps://bugs.kde.org/enter_sysadmin_request.cgi?component=packager16:39
shadeslayersince the tarballs are only released to a certain subset of packagers16:39
shadeslayererm16:39
shadeslayers/packagers/people16:39
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: filed a request16:44
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: you probably have to subscribe Riddell to it too16:44
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: cc ?16:44
shadeslayeryep16:44
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: forgot that let me update it16:45
shadeslayeridk what email address he uses for bugzilla 16:45
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: googling16:45
shadeslayerhuh?16:45
shadeslayerwhy not just ask him?16:45
Riddelljr@jriddell .org16:46
phoenix_firebrdok16:46
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phoenix_firebrd"CC: jr@jriddell .org did not match anything"16:48
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Riddellwithout the space16:48
phoenix_firebrdright16:48
phoenix_firebrddone16:49
phoenix_firebrdI have subscribed to kde-packager@kde.org and release-team@kde.org, the first one is awaiting for approval 16:51
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phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: the control file contails "XSBC-Original-Maintainer" but the dsc file contains "Original-Maintainer" and I am getting a warning during building that the later is an unknown variable. I am thinking that its because of the improper updating from cdbs. any idea why?17:03
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phoenix_firebrdRiddell: did libmtp, rekonq and ktorrent got packaged?17:19
yofelktorrent and rekonq are done17:19
phoenix_firebrdyofel: shall i try libmtp?17:20
Riddellphoenix_firebrd: you can see if there's anything to package there I'm not sure there is17:22
yofelphoenix_firebrd: you could, that's shadeslayer's expertise I believe17:22
phoenix_firebrdRiddell: sorry , i just saw your mail now, i am getting accustomed to the work flow  17:22
yofelphoenix_firebrd: and as Riddell says, the packaging notepad linked in the topic points to the packaging todo's17:23
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok17:23
yofelif you find something in the wild that needs to be done add it there17:23
yofelnow if apachelogger would fix kubotu that would be great...17:24
yofelapachelogger: if my change doesn't work at all just throw it out and hardcode a login_with() that works for you...17:24
yofelkubotu: plugins17:25
yofel~help plugins17:25
kubotuno help for topic plugins17:25
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: are you packaging libmtp?17:26
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phoenix_firebrdgood night everyone17:58
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yofelScottK: do we need these?19:44
yofel-./usr/bin/pykdeuic4-2.719:44
yofel-./usr/bin/pykdeuic4-3.319:44
yofelor is the generic pykdeuic4 enough19:44
ScottKyofel: We should have them.20:16
yofelok20:20
Riddellyofel: I think we do have them already but under a different path.  i think.  check that22:06
yofelI didn't find them in the pykde4 install files22:07
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apacheloggerJontheEchidna: pingy22:49
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: pong22:49
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: it appears to me the qapt codec installer is misbehaving22:49
apacheloggerremove gst fluendo and ugly, then try to play mp3 in amarok ... it will install -ugly properly but claim there was an error22:50
apacheloggerPHONON-GST BEGIN: void Phonon::Gstreamer::MediaObject::setError(const QString&, Phonon::ErrorType) 22:50
apacheloggerPHONON-GST   "User aborted codec installation" 22:50
JontheEchidnahmm22:50
apacheloggeras per https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=314191 I suspect shadeslayer has the same problem22:51
ubottuKDE bug 314191 in general "Test F-A003: MP3 Codec Failure fails" [Normal,Confirmed]22:51
apacheloggeri.e. since the installer reports abortion the registry is not actually reloaded before retrying to play, thus asking to install for a second time but this time around -fluendo22:51
apacheloggerhttps://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa/+files/mangonel_0.1~git20130130-0ubuntu1.dsc still needs a review22:55
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yofelooooops23:24
yofelmy backport version parser doesn't play well with Riddell forgetting to add ~ppa to the version ^^23:24
yofelkdeplasma-addons (4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low~ubuntu12.10~ppa1) quantal; urgency=low23:24
yofelis the result23:25
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yofelRiddell: would it work better for you if we committed the version *with* ~ppa1 to bzr and adjusted the scripts to remove that before uploading to the archive?23:26
yofelbecause hell breaks loose if the ppa has something with simply "ubuntu1"23:27
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* yofel will try to fix the backport script again tomorrow23:28
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: fixed23:28
JontheEchidnathx for the report23:29
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: thank you23:30
JontheEchidnathe worker was setting the transaction status to "finished" before setting the exit code, so when the gst helper checked, the exit code was still ExitUnfinished, the default value23:30
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* yofel gave 4.10.0 a short run on raring, no obvious issues23:44
yofelmore testing tomorrow23:44
* yofel is off to bed, good night23:44
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