mhall119jcastro: does Rackspace have something like S3?02:01
mhall119nvm, found Cloud Files02:11
dholbachgood morning07:23
JoseeAntonioRhey dholbach! will you be having your devel hangout today?08:19
JoseeAntonioRoops, just noticed the away msg, no worries then08:34
dholbachdpm, do you have time for a call?10:51
dpmdholbach, sure10:56
AlanBellaquarius: can you fix it so that smartscopes returns valid json please?11:43
AlanBellit returns several lines, each of which is valid json, but the page as a whole isn't parseable11:44
AlanBelloh, then again this would appear to be intentional chunking11:47
aquariusAlanBell, oi, stop poking the unfinished API ;)12:09
aquariusit's not done yet :)12:09
aquariusAlanBell, well, you are welcome to poke it, but it's not done yet, and it might go away, etc, etc12:10
aquariusAlanBell, also, as you have correctly divined, each line is valid json. Bear in mind that the response may arrive in parts with delays: we'll return stuff as soon as we get it, so the dash can display it as soon as it gets it. If the whole response was valid JSON, then you could not do that, because you have to wait until the whole response is in to parse it. Hence, the response is a sequence of valid-JSON12:11
aquarius chunks,.12:11
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aquariusJSON is not amenable to being streamingly parsed.12:11
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aquariusu1db uses the same approach: JSON chunks.12:11
AlanBellthanks aquarius12:14
dholbachaquarius, ready for later on? :)12:15
aquariusdholbach, yep :)12:15
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JoseeAntonioRdholbach: hey, if you want more audience you can post it to the fridge, or give me a link and I'll work on it14:41
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, ah, that'd be cool - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Hackfest is the page with all the details14:42
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: is it fine if I get https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-January/036401.html ?14:44
JoseeAntonioRor that's intended for another type of audience?14:44
dholbachsure, or http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/2013/01/automated-testing-hackfest-2/14:45
dholbachany of the  two14:45
* dholbach rounds up UDW audience14:45
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, mind MCing again? ;-)14:49
JoseeAntonioRnope, no worries14:49
* JoseeAntonioR goes to the paste14:50
dholbachit's "day 3" today, but that should be it :)14:50
* dholbach rushes out and takes the dog for a walk - brb14:50
* dholbach hugs JoseeAntonioR14:50
dholbachthank YOU14:50
* JoseeAntonioR hugs dholbach back :)14:50
dholbachyou're doing a fantastic job14:50
JoseeAntonioRyou owe me a hug in May!14:51
jcastropopey: hey15:41
jcastropopey: tldr; I'm asking the forums moderators if they also want to moderate G+15:42
JoseeAntonioRdholbach: ping15:51
JoseeAntonioRaquarius: are you the same as sil on IRC?15:53
JoseeAntonioRaquarius: and are you giving a session in UDW in a while?15:53
aquariusI'm up in 7 minutes, right?15:53
JoseeAntonioRcjohnston: if you're around, can we get a !c in classbot, please?15:55
cjohnstonJoseeAntonioR: did that fix it?15:56
JoseeAntonioRI hope so15:56
cjohnstonyou hope so? there wasn't a problem?15:57
cjohnstonor did something in the calendar change15:57
JoseeAntonioRyes, we had sil instead of aquarius, I changed it and you fetched it15:58
JoseeAntonioRwe can't see the result until the actual time15:58
aquariusyeah, soz :)15:58
cjohnstonjust lookin for context16:00
JoseeAntonioRand worked! :)16:01
dholbachJoseeAntonioR, thanks!16:10
JoseeAntonioRnp :)16:10
dholbachjcastro, did we pick a UGJ date?16:18
jcastroI am not sure16:18
dholbachI thought we said something about "around beta"16:18
dholbachbut it wasn't on our calendar16:18
dholbachand I couldn't find it elsewhere16:18
dholbachdoes anyone else know?16:20
jcastroit's usually right around beta16:22
jcastrothe weekend after isn't it?16:22
dholbachI don't know16:26
dholbachballoons, when do you want a world of testers to be available in the beta timeframe? after beta freeze? after beta release?16:29
dholbachbeta 1? 2?16:29
dholbachwhich weekend would be the best?16:29
* balloons goes to look at schedule16:29
pleia2balloons: when we discussed this earlier in the cycle, I proposed feb 22-24 based on testing things, but I changed my mind since that's the same weekend as SCaLE11x so I'll be out of town ;)16:31
jcastropleia2: agreed16:32
pleia2jcastro: will you be there?16:32
jcastroand I have a full plate at scale so I wouldn't be able to like run an event on top of the other stuff16:32
balloonswhat about right before feature freeze?16:32
pleia2jcastro: doing a talk at ubucon?16:32
jcastroat pgday on the friday16:32
jcastrobut I can stop by ubucon16:32
pleia2I'm doing a "cloud stuff on ubuntu" talk16:33
jcastroI am doing some server UI testing too for the juju gui16:33
balloonssay the week of the 25th feb, or following week in march16:33
pleia2will have to pick your brain closer to the day ;)16:33
balloons1 month from now essentially16:33
jcastrooh cool, mine is only a lightning talk at pgday, maybe I can switch back and forth16:33
pleia2balloons: it tends to be friday-sunday16:33
balloonsyes, lol.. so mar 1-316:34
pleia2sounds good to me16:34
balloonsit's just before feature freeze.. things should hopefully be ok.. there's always rushing16:34
dholbachor pretty broken :)16:35
pleia2last ugj was the day after beta1, so everyone saved up breaking things until that friday ;) I showed up at the jam with a pile of isos whose installer crashed on launch (it went into livecd though)16:36
pleia2gave me a nice example of "this is a bug!"16:36
jcastroyeah that was always a problem for me16:37
balloonslol -- indeed16:37
jcastro"I hope no one brought the ISO from 2 days ago, here's one from 1 hour ago."16:37
balloonsbut after featurefreeze will be worse, trust me16:37
balloonsso it's first march weekend or the third march weekend immho16:37
jcastrocome to think about it16:38
jcastroa modern "bug day" would be more about writing tests than manually sorting bugs, right?16:38
dholbachwe have an automated testing hackfest tomorrow16:39
dholbachand will have another one this cycle16:39
dholbachthe earlier we get more test cases the better16:39
dholbachbut of course we wouldn't say no to new tests if they come around UGJ time :)16:39
jcastroyeah I am just thinking outloud, why have manual bug days when you can have more testing hackfests?16:39
jcastrobut whatever, I am ok with any day, I'll either be SCaLEing or not, either way, I'll be working on ubuntu. :)16:40
dholbachit depends on your skillset - not everybody can do stuff like http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html#the-actual-tests16:40
jcastropleia2: I am going to be doing usertesting of the juju gui if you have any sysadmin friends that want to check it out and go through the tests.16:40
balloonsindeed.. and manual tests do need to be run also :-)16:40
jcastroit'll be like "deploy samba" and then you try to do that and then you tell me what you hate, and so on16:41
pleia2jcastro: tomorrow?16:41
pleia2or scale?16:41
jcastrothey're going to provide me with like working wireframes or something like that16:42
jcastrowith ideas on how to do foo, bar, baz16:42
jcastroand I just need to get feedback from real people on what they like/hate/meh.16:42
snap-lQuick q: who would I contact about some thoughts on deprecating the team reports?16:44
snap-lat least the wiki team reports?16:44
snap-lI've found our team reports are essentially copies of what we put into the loco directory16:44
snap-lwith a few added links for pictures and other text16:45
snap-l(blog posts, mostly)16:45
jcastrodid someone say removing junk from the wiki?16:45
snap-lI believe I did16:45
jcastrojet me a mail and I'll bring it up with jono, he's on holiday for the rest of the week, so I can bring it up tuesdayish?16:46
snap-lOK, I'll "jet" that. ;)16:46
jcastroalso, the new stereo is awesome16:47
jcastrothe extra 25 watts really makes a difference16:47
snap-ljcastro: Very cool. I'll have to come over for an audition. ;)16:47
jcastroper channel I mean16:47
jcastroyeah so like, it has this microphone that you put where you sit16:47
jcastroand then they tell you "turn the knobs to this, then hit the button"16:47
czajkowskisnap-l: the loco council uses the team reports16:47
czajkowskito review teams16:47
jcastroand it just autotunes all the speakers and the sub16:47
czajkowskiso please do keep them16:47
czajkowskiand don't delete :)16:47
jcastrono boomy bass either, it's all tight and awesome sounding16:48
snap-lczajkowski: I'm not going to delete, but I find it's "one more thing" I have to remember.16:48
czajkowskidelegate :)16:48
snap-lAnd frankly, it's not something I look forward to completing.16:48
snap-lczajkowski: Tried that.16:48
jcastrosomething worth doing, asking IS for the analytics data on the team report pages.16:49
jcastroif it's lower than the amount of work being put into it, there's your answer.16:49
snap-lczajkowski: If I could change the process to allow for the past events / meetings links to have the same weight as a team report, that would make me happy16:49
snap-lBecause as it stands, they're copy / paste.16:50
czajkowskisnap-l: bugs open about this already16:50
czajkowskijust not evenough developers to make it happen16:50
czajkowskiand no point in usuing analytics unfortunately as not every teams does it16:50
czajkowskibut it's the first thing loco council looks at tbh16:50
snap-lThis would be a great way to promote the directory, then.16:50
czajkowskiyup it wpould16:51
czajkowskiadn again a bug is open about it16:51
czajkowskiand people have looked for more developers to help out, can't just be daker always doing the work16:51
snap-lWhat's the next action to help make it happen?16:51
czajkowskia developer to work on the bug16:51
snap-lWhat's the bug number?16:51
czajkowskiI dont know it off hand16:51
snap-lI'll [redacted] look at PHP code if I can make it happen.16:52
czajkowskiif you search the LTP16:52
dakerwhat ?16:52
snap-lhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+bug/605651 ?16:52
ubot2Ubuntu bug 605651 in LoCo Team Portal "Merge in Loco Reports into loco.ubuntu.com" [High,Triaged]16:52
dakerah i see16:53
czajkowskidaker: just saying you cant be the one to do all the development16:53
snap-lI'm not sure how this bug relates to the wiki team reports16:53
czajkowskianyways I need to work out why my wifi driver refuses to connect to this wifi router whe on this network and I need to kill it and restart the driver every single time16:54
snap-lThis looks more like data about the loco in the report, not about monthly activity.16:55
snap-lex. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MichiganTeam/TeamReports/16:55
dholbachdaker, is there a list of high priority things on the LTP right now? or what's going to happen next? :)17:12
dholbachdaker, we didn't talk about the LTP in a long time :)17:12
dakerdholbach: a new version on the way17:23
dholbachdaker, nice17:24
dakerdaker: i am just waiting for IS17:24
dholbachdaker, is it https://launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+milestone/0.3.11?17:25
dholbachHOLY COW!17:25
dholbachyou've been busy17:26
dakerdholbach: ya now LTP works with django 1.317:26
dakerthanks to cjohnston17:26
cjohnstondholbach: you may want to prod IS17:27
dholbachwe should probably all take turns in prodding ;-)17:27
dholbachI call it a day - see you all tomorrow my friends! :)17:51
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