=== toddc is now known as toddc2 [18:12] I am almos done installing Ubuntu on N7 [18:12] I might actually use this tablet now lol [18:12] any bad issues to expect? [18:20] There's no touch UI. [18:20] huh [18:20] it just booted for the first time and teh screen all jacked up [18:20] Make that two issues then. [18:20] touch screen working [18:21] down to one again [18:21] It works, there's just no touch-optimized UI. [18:21] one and a half [18:21] oh [18:21] Run updates. Hopefully they fixed something. :) [18:21] you dont run it anymore? [18:22] I don't run Ubuntu on a tablet. Because there's no touch UI. [18:22] If I wanted to be furious at an user interface I could install Windows 8. :) [18:22] lolol [18:22] (Which is actually awesome on a touchscreen.) [18:28] Desktop just loaded! [18:28] everything looks ood [18:28] This is sounding like a seriously slow boot. [18:29] lol [18:30] wifi suspends when screen is off =( [18:34] You're probably not surfing the interblags when the screen's off anyway. [18:34] it's pretty neat hving unity on the tablet [18:34] keyboard is much better [18:35] than android [18:35] Torikun: 12.10 or 13.04? [18:35] looks liek 13.04 [18:35] the point of the tablet version isn't end user use :) it's a developer version so they can make improvements to the UI [18:36] lol [18:36] I think they're shooting for usable-by-muggles for 14.04 [18:36] oh [18:36] what version do you ahve installed pleia2 [18:36] I don't [18:36] played with them at UDS a couple months back though [18:36] o [18:37] Unity being focused on touch-screens was a slander invented by people who didn't like it in 11.04, and it hasn't become less untrue since. [18:37] (I don't have a tablet of any kind) [18:37] pleia2: I got to play with a Nexus 7 yesterday. It was nice. :) [18:37] nhaines: but so small! if I do make the tablet plunge it'll probably be the 10 [18:37] Tablets are over rated [18:38] I would be happier with a macbook air lol [18:38] pleia2: the 10's probably the way to go. As nice as the 7 inch was, the 10 must be luxurious. [18:38] but really I'm quite happy with phone+netbook for on the go stuff still [18:38] pleia2: me too. But the idea of Ubuntu everywhere makes me happy. I love Android on my phone but I'm not convinced tablet-wise. [18:38] I can't do on screen keyboards and most of my work and fun needs a keyboard [18:38] so I could get a tablet and carry a keyboard and... well at that point I have a netbook again [18:39] you need a macbook air [18:39] lol [18:39] I really don't [18:39] problem solved [18:39] my ultrabook is similar to the macbook air, but has a useful operating system on it [18:39] but it's too big to put in my purse (my netbook fits) [18:39] ajh [18:40] pleia2: onscreen keyboards make me want to punch a kitten. The Android 4.2 keyboard is a nice alternative to Swype however! [18:40] yeah [18:40] word [18:40] nhaines: I tried the swypey keyboards, do not grok [18:40] pleia2: it's like touch typing with your thumb. :) [18:40] I just tether to my netbook when I need to type more than a sentence :) [18:40] lol [18:41] or say "they can wait until I get home" [18:43] lol desktop locked up I gotta wait until the battery dies now lol [19:07] nhaines: it was horrible uninstalling it [19:12] Torikun: uninstalling Ubuntu or Android? [19:12] YokoZar: heya. :) [19:12] Uninstalling Ubuntu [19:12] going back to android [19:13] i was hoping it would be somewhat usable [19:14] It should have been. [19:14] nope [19:14] Just slow. [19:14] oh very slow [19:14] and keyboard would not appear when needed [19:14] and unity screen would be locked and you can not close it [19:14] *application screen [19:15] 4 CPU's in the n7 and it runs so slow [19:17] and keyboard on unity too small [19:33] nhaines: got a raspberry pi? [19:34] Torikun:I really want one but have absolutely no use for one. [19:35] haha I understand that [19:36] Torikun: didn't stop me from buying bitcoin, but eh... :) [19:36] lolololololol [19:36] How is bit coin doing [19:37] heh, jyo had a backpack full of 'em at a global jam event, that's how I ended up with one (it sits next to my desktop and runs an irc bot that does nothing) [19:37] lol [19:37] re: I wanted one but still have absolutely no use for one [19:37] http://www.linux-toys.com that's what I did with them [19:37] Title: [Linux-toys.com | .....another techy Linux blog.] [19:37] it's great for an irc bouncer pleia2 [19:38] I don't use bouncers [19:38] I run screen+irssi on my VPS [19:38] lol that's not as efficient [19:38] I guess it depends on what you're doing :) [19:38] lol yeah [19:38] with bouncers, you can use any client app [19:39] any client app that has support for over 100 channels, sure! [19:39] most suck at it though [19:39] oh [19:40] performance is terrible on the pi [19:40] Torikun: bitcoin hit $20 overnight after fighting it for three days and is now worth $21.35. [19:40] ah [19:41] I've made a couple dollars and the sooner people accept it and just buy my trade orders at bitfloor I'll have another half a dollar. :) [19:41] nhaines: w00t, early retirement! [19:42] :) [19:42] you guys play with yacy? [19:42] * Torikun did not mean to sound sexist there lol [19:43] pleia2: haha. Well, it's fun and then once I get a tiny bit I push it to bitzino.com where I can lose it in the slickest HTML5 Blackjack interface you've ever seen. ;) [19:44] nhaines: haha, we'll that's something :) [19:45] pleia2: it even runs on my Nintendo 3DS browser! [19:45] Note: this is the worst way to play blackjack. [19:45] lol [19:59] email: Plz.. i need enter to the group to learn with the users, im new in ubuntu dev and i need some experiencie... [19:59] me: What exactly are you talking about or asking me to do? [19:59] email: I need a group to start to develop for ubuntu but i dont know how start, and i need the code [19:59] http://sitedown.co/amazoncom [19:59] amazon is down =( [19:59] Title: [Amazon.com Site Down Reports] [20:00] prolly using ec2 [20:00] lol [20:01] YokoZar: you're on the CC, the membership board folks should be replying to that email [20:01] (I'm sure they already have) [20:01] pleia2: It was sent to me personally, I have no idea what he's talking about [20:01] YokoZar: are you sure it didn't come from LP? (I got one too) [20:02] footer: "using the "Contact this team's admins" link on the Ubuntu Members team page" [20:02] Ahh you're right [20:02] I get messages like this a lot though [20:02] personally [20:02] not launchpad [20:03] half are people asking me to send them Wine [20:03] I see them come through fairly often through launchpad, I get some personally too , people are funny :) [20:03] The other half something blog related [20:03] it's sweet that they want to contribute, but there are about 40 million documented ways to start, so if you can't even figure that out... :( [20:04] I think many of them are low-english IT students in places like India who heard they need to do something Ubuntu related, stumbled upon the website, and then ask me to send them it [20:04] yeah [20:14] YokoZar: i needz wine plz if u culd send me cuz i hate windowz but i need it anywa but cant pay so plz send me thx [20:23] YokoZar: I need wine please, it's been a rough week :) [21:30] Does the universe explode if you deluser root? [21:31] there's only one way to find out! [22:55] Someone just linked to this on reddit. I had it posted on my cubicle wall at one point: http://xkcd.com/963/ [22:55] Title: [xkcd: X11] [23:09] Am I in the correct place for Southern Calif loco team? Especially related to SCaLE? [23:10] gmulak: yes, except the team is statewide. Welcome. [23:12] nhaines: Nathan? [23:13] gmulak: yes. [23:13] By convention, anyway. ;) [23:13] It's George Mulak from the Lake Forest Ubuntu hour. Sure have missed all the people there [23:14] Of course. :) Glad you made your way here via IRC! [23:17] nhaines: Mostly because of your contribution of help at the Ubuntu hour. You were so patient with everyone. A great example of colaboration [23:18] gmulak: it was a great way to meet up with others and discuss whatever interesting problems they'd come across. I should get over to Panera again soon. [23:18] nhaines: should I also join #scal and #scale-chat since I am going to be there? [23:19] nhaines: Now that I have changed jobs I could go again. I would apreciate it. [23:19] nahines: Panera was very kind to us, let us stay awhile and the food was great also. [23:27] gmulak: since about half of everyone bought *something*, I don't think they were too put out. Lots of people use it for book clubs and study groups and so on. :) [23:28] gmulak: #scale-chat is another IRC network, and it's really more for planning. Also it's pretty quiet. [23:29] nhaines: Yup, Panera was like a coffee shop atmosphere with great food. I better log onto #scale-chat then, cause I will be at the Ubuntu booth.... [23:31] I should sign up to be at the Ubuntu booth. Looks like I'll be able to make it after all. [23:32] nahaines: Great news - see you there. [23:33] gmulak: great. :) [23:36] what does this mean? I am the only one in the chat room. (3:33:52 PM) mode (+ns ) by hitchcock.freenode.net Not active? [23:40] This is in the #scale-chat room..... [23:40] gmulak: it means that you're not on the right network. SCALE hosts their rooms at irc.oftc.net. [23:40] What IRC client are you using? [23:41] nhains: Pidgin [23:42] nhaines: they are not on irc.freenode.net? [23:43] gmulak: nope. [23:44] nhaines: OK, thanks. [23:44] I strongly recommend the console application irssi. But use pidgin if it's more convenient. :) [23:44] znc! [23:44] oh, nhaines haven't seen your name in here for a while [23:45] Quassel is nice... [23:45] philipballew: this server's been up for 343 days. :) [23:45] note to self: I should probably reboot the server. [23:46] nhaines, I see your putting this server to good use finally :) [23:46] * philipballew runs and hides [23:46] nhaines: OK, thanks. I am using it at work on my windoz machine. I was using it because it was cross-platform. [23:47] philipballew: Hello-it's George Mulak [23:47] gmulak: That's a good reason! I actually just have a couple VPSes and ssh into my screen session. [23:47] oh hey gmulak [23:47] hope all is well [23:48] nhaines: OK, what is VPSes? I know ssh is secure shell... [23:49] phillipballew: Yep. I just ordered my new orange Ubuntu cap for the booth... :-) [23:49] gmulak: it's a virtual private server. Instead of buying a computer and paying rent, I just pay for a VM in someone else's colocated server. :) [23:50] nhaines: Oh yes, I remember you showing me that. One of the things that made me consider chat... [23:50] In fact, I went with prgmr.com who were at SCALE like two years ago. I am just checking out chunkhost.com as well. [23:50] gmulak, oh wow. Im gonna wear some shirts I have from uds, and ill bring some other shirts from to [23:51] gmulak: you're welcome to have a shell account on one of my servers for a bit to try it out. [23:51] phillipballew: I didn't have enough money to order CD's Only working part time. [23:52] gmulak, Were gonna get official cd's in the mail to hand out so it should be good [23:52] I have like 50 official cd's Ill bring as well [23:52] nhaines: Wow, that is your usual kindness for sure. Perhaps at Panera again, you can show me how sometime? [23:52] and someone might brink some blank ones to burn in case [23:52] I'll bring my remaining DVDs (they're not CDs anymore) with me as well. [23:53] phillipballew: OK, thanks. Can I buy a XXLarge shirt off of you? [23:54] gmulak: all you have to do is shoot me an email. I'll send you a username and password that you can change when you first log in and then you run 'byobu', then 'irssi', and then you can just type '/connect Ubuntu' and then '/join #ubuntu-us-ca' [23:54] gmulak, I do not think I have any xx. Olny mediums. The Juju talk might have some shirts you can snag [23:55] phillipballew: Yes, I was going to bring some CD's and my HDD with distro's on it. Although I can't find lubuntu distro [23:55] nhaines: gmulak - at - hotmail dot com [23:56] gmulak, just come and answer questions in a professional manner and that should be just fine. :) No need to do more. [23:57] phillipballew: Can only afford a few labels however [23:57] phillipballew: Just don't kick me out if I don't know enough answers! :-) Please! [23:58] gmulak, I can go over some basic questions you'll get on Friday, or anything you do not want to answer just send them to me. [23:59] phillipballew: Great, thanks. Sometimes the best way to learn is to dive in. I would like enough knowledge to start an ubuntu hr like nhaines showed me.