[05:11] morning all! [05:45] hi Tonberry jrgns [05:45] hello [05:49] morning [05:50] hi plustwo [05:51] hi oom Kilos [06:25] hi Kilos, all [06:37] yo Superhuman you well? [06:38] plustwo, how did you get quickly? [06:39] i cant seem to get it here from the link they gave [06:44] Kilos: apt-get install [06:45] Kilos: aptitude search quickly [06:46] whew its massive [06:46] then aptitude install quickly [06:46] ty plustwo will get it when new data goes in tommorrow [06:46] tomorrow [06:46] you can also do; aptitude show quickly [06:46] lotsa dependancies [06:47] dankie man [06:47] np [06:47] no wonder it does so much. it ties in everywhere [06:48] will try to get some simpler tuts [06:48] ill get it in the morning [06:48] what are tuts? [06:48] hehe [06:48] tutorials [06:49] i meant^^ [06:49] oh my [06:50] i struggle with all these abreviations. they dont sit vas innie kop [06:50] môre inetpro [06:52] Kilos, awesome [06:52] good [06:57] hi timkeller maiatoday [07:22] hi sakhi zeref [07:32] Hi Kilos === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [07:47] hi SmilyBorg [07:47] Hey there === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [08:17] * staticrat waves hello [08:17] hi staticrat [08:17] hey kilos, how you doing? [08:17] staticrat: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell staticrat evo> http://terokarvinen.com/2012/ms-exchange-email-calendar-with-evolution" 17 hours, 32 minutes and 44 seconds ago [08:17] good ty [08:18] so maaz is a bot [08:18] yip a clever one [08:18] ok humour me [08:18] how do I use maaz? [08:18] you type in his nick first then what you need him to do [08:19] start with help [08:19] maaz help [08:19] staticrat: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [08:19] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [08:20] maaz help me with 6700*67 [08:20] staticrat: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [08:20] lol [08:20] whats 6700*67 [08:21] lol [08:21] calculations [08:21] would i then rather ask: Maaz help me with calculations 6700 * 67 [08:21] then ask him help me with calculations [08:21] lol [08:22] leave the numbers off [08:22] * staticrat is learning to use a bot [08:22] maaz help me with calculations [08:22] staticrat: I use the following features for calculations: base, base64, bc, calc, distance, google, hash, ipcalc, nickometer, oeis and random [08:22] Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. [08:22] one needs to learn what commands etc he accepts and how [08:23] maaz how do I use looking things up [08:23] staticrat: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [08:23] maaz how do I use [08:23] staticrat: Please be more specific. I don't know if you mean auth, dict or help [08:23] im not getting it [08:24] Maaz, help me withdistance [08:24] Kilos: Sorry... [08:24] ai [08:24] Maaz, help me with distance [08:24] Kilos: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [08:24] you see [08:24] Maaz, how do i use distance [08:24] Kilos: Returns the distance between two places. You can use it like this: [08:24] distance [in ] between and [08:24] place search for [08:25] maaz, how do i use calc [08:25] staticrat: Returns the anwser to mathematical expressions. Uses Python syntax and semantics (i.e. radians). You can use it like this: [08:25] calc [08:25] [08:25] maaz, calc 6700 * 67 [08:25] staticrat: 448900 [08:25] one needs to get things right with him. [08:25] yeah [08:26] ok it is now beginning to sink in [08:26] or you could just say [08:26] Maaz: 6700 * 67 [08:26] tumbleweed: 448900 [08:26] Maaz, distance in kilometres pretoria to capetown [08:26] Kilos: Huh? [08:26] ai [08:26] Kilos: "between" [08:26] lol kilos [08:26] ah ty tumbleweed [08:27] also to -> and [08:27] hi tumbleweed [08:27] hi [08:27] anyway tumbleweed i have some feedback on deb-delta server for us. must it be so masive [08:27] so asking maaz to google something, would require what? [08:27] I will have to think about a strategy to implement this for ubuntu. My main concern is the hdd space it will require, approximately 620GB. [08:27] Kilos: I'm afraid I know very little about deb-delta [08:28] Kilos: I suggest playing with it to find out [08:28] i cant find anyone to ask either. even went to debian lists but thats no easy [08:28] ok will keep looking ty [08:28] maaz help [08:28] staticrat: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [08:28] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [08:29] maaz, help me with looking things up [08:29] staticrat: I use the following features for looking things up: apt-file, aptitude, bash, bible, dict, distance, dns, factoid, feeds, fml, fortune, google, help, imdb, lastfm, lotto, mac, man, microblog, mlia, oeis, ports, rfc, seen, tfln, tinyurl, tld, translate, tvshow, unicode, weather and youtube [08:29] Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. [08:29] thats why i wanted the dev teams. to try find out who does that package [08:29] maaz, how do I use google [08:29] staticrat: Retrieves results from Google and Google Calculator. You can use it like this: [08:29] google[.] [for] [08:29] googlefight [for] and [08:29] gcalc [08:29] gdefine [08:29] but i forgot [08:30] maaz, google fastest recorded broadband speed [08:30] staticrat: "75-year-old pensioner has fastest broadband | News | TechRadar" http://www.techradar.com/us/news/video/hd-dvd/television/hdtv/broadband/internet/web/home-cinema/high-definition/75-year-old-pensioner-has-fastest-broadband-131117 :: "'World's fastest broadband' trials successfully produces speeds 240 ..." [08:30] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2018640/Worlds-fastest-broadband-trials-successfully-produces-speeds-240-times-better-Britis… [08:31] lol he gives the links then you go see for yourself [08:31] cool I kinda like this bot, could be very useful [08:32] it would be cool to have such a bot in your HUD [08:32] he is just a bit long in the tooth. you can use mine on ##kilos [08:33] she should greet you when you get there [08:33] aw killed him [08:34] lo [08:35] hi Squirm [08:36] staticrat, are you using xchat yet? [08:36] yip [08:36] whole new learning curve for me this week [08:36] loce it [08:36] *love [08:37] to join other freenode channels you type in /j #channel [08:37] you will see it open on the left of your window [08:37] how do I set xchat to open this channel by default [08:37] ok [08:37] listen carefully [08:37] lol [08:37] ok [08:37] :) [08:38] i gotta work through it with you [08:38] ok then [08:38] click on xchat at the top left and go network list [08:39] ok [08:39] enter name etc. dont click skip network [08:39] scroll down to freenode [08:39] tick on it then on edit [08:40] ok [08:40] in favourite channels type in #ubuntu-za [08:40] if you want my channel too then ,##kilos [08:41] ok [08:41] you can add lotsa channels that way. dont forget the , [08:41] then close and join [08:41] or click the ... to add as well [08:41] thats for other servers [08:42] ok going to test this brb [08:42] k [08:42] cool [08:43] you see. xchat rocks [08:43] well that sorts that out thx Kilos [08:43] you can sort it to alert you when nick said [08:43] yw [08:44] so your bot works the same as maaz [08:45] same bot just a later version done by tumbleweed [08:45] they are in the repos [08:45] ibid [08:46] oh was wondering yesterday what ibid was used for [09:09] staticrat, you can sudo aptitude install glipper to put a clipboard on the top bar that remembers the links and stuff you use [09:09] this is like a overflow of knowledge [09:10] lol [09:10] something weird is happening inmy brain\ [09:12] last day of course :/ [09:12] it's actually quite nice [09:14] you gonna crack it Squirm ? [09:14] you gotta write exam? [09:25] Maaz, lpi manual [09:25] http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual [09:25] staticrat, ^^ [09:26] thx this site was booked marked before it opened lol [09:26] lol [09:46] ohi [09:48] hey superfly [09:50] good morning Kilos [09:50] oh and hi everyone else as well [09:50] * Kilos waves to the pro [09:50] late again as usual [09:51] hi inetpro [09:51] ai! [09:53] haha [09:54] * staticrat is currently stuffing his face with ice cream and therefore unable to use the keyboard [09:55] inetpro: lo [10:24] inetpro, did you see what the bloem varsity said the size of the deb-delta server must be? [10:24] whew [10:28] * staticrat thinks ice cream is the next best thing to toast [10:28] lol [10:28] Kilos: no [10:29] I will have to think about a strategy to implement this for ubuntu. My main concern is the hdd space it will require, approximately 620GB. [10:29] thats feedback from them [10:29] ai! [10:29] i dunno how it can be that big [10:30] haha [10:30] Kilos: of course it will have to be big [10:30] all the ubuntus together arent so much [10:30] ja? [10:31] well i think each repo is about 80g [10:31] isnt it [10:31] Kilos: ask Symmetria, he will tell you about size of mirrors [10:31] i think he is hiding [10:31] hehe [10:32] Kilos: and it will constantly have to be updated as things change as well [10:32] i think i can do that if i get to ssh to it [10:32] ai! [10:32] or Symmetria will have to [10:33] nee man, die goed word ge-automate [10:34] more feedback [10:34] spam coming [10:34] It is the size of the the current ubuntu repo which is rsynced to mirror.ufs.ac.za. debdelta uses deb-mirror to mirror the repo, any updates are flagged and then diffed. This leaves me with two choices: [10:34] 1) Use rsync and setup debdelta to mirror ubuntu a second time and include the deltas. [10:34] 2) Switch from rsync to debdelta for ubuntu. I favour rsync for mirroring especially for the larger repos, so I am not keen on doing this. [10:34] There is no LVM or btrfs to do snapshotting, which leaves me with less options. Like I said, I need to think about this maybe there is another, better, way. [10:39] * Kilos holds thumbs [10:40] im not sure if it must host both the ununtu and debdelta servers there or if they can be synced from the existing one [10:41] but it it works it will save us tons on data costs and upgrade speeds [10:42] inetpro, ^^ [10:44] Kilos: this is perhaps a debate that guys should have at #ubuntu-mirrors [10:45] "There's a team working on improving user experiences every day, making Ubuntu available to you." [10:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors [10:46] they shouldn't do this in isolation [10:46] Kilos: yes, you will need a full mirror to generate debdeltas [10:48] i dont know enough to go debate it man. they will thin where does this guy come from [10:48] ty tumbleweed [10:50] Kilos: well I like your persistence regarding the matter [10:51] lol im trying to save data man [10:55] whew [10:59] we need a 1TB drive just for us [10:59] Symmetria, donate [11:11] Kilos: 1TB is actually not that much any more these days [12:34] got my midmar mile entry sms now [12:34] turns out I'm blue cap(2nd group) [12:34] I haven't trained and I haven't done the mile in 2/3 years [12:36] hmm... me wonders if its static rat or stati crat [12:38] lol [12:38] funy [12:39] static rat [12:40] lol [12:41] cant even remember where I got the name from but it has stuck with me for the last 5 years or so [12:45] * Kilos worries about peeps that call themselves rats [12:45] * Kilos hides [12:46] remember i spread disease [12:46] lol [12:47] * staticrat gives evil laugh [12:47] * Kilos calls the cats [12:47] * staticrat takes steroids and calls the kittens [12:48] hehe [12:48] study man [12:49] dude learning is fun, pitty I only discovered that fact after school [12:49] thats a common thing with kids [12:50] ya I would say it is cause of another reason ... i got distracted [12:50] im not a dude. dudes dress funny [12:50] ai girls [12:51] ai [12:52] Maaz, seen magespawn [12:52] Kilos: magespawn was last seen 21 hours, 44 minutes and 10 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-01-30 07:08:02 PST], and has been online on freenode since 2013-01-29 06:39:47 PST [12:52] poaching rhino again === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [12:52] hi Trixar_za [12:53] Hey Kilos [12:53] we got another ubuntu convert [12:53] took 13 years to wake up [12:53] thats not true [12:54] rofl [12:54] its more like 12 years and 11 months [12:54] lol [12:54] ah sorry [12:54] hmmmmm [12:54] hi hmmmmer [12:55] where you been zeref [12:55] * staticrat waves hello to everyone [12:55] busy busy bust learning web frameworks. [12:55] ah [12:56] have got some free time....hence hmmmmm [12:56] There are some non-Ubuntu users in this channel. Hell, I know of some that are strict Windows supporters :P [12:57] where?? [12:57] shoot em [12:57] linux users welcome [12:58] I forget their nicknames because it was so long ago. Maybe they converted the last few years :P [12:58] hehe [12:58] I don't mind Windows supporters, but just don't try converting me back :P [12:58] or they just lurk in shame [12:59] hows things with studies [12:59] any luck [12:59] Squirm asked his lecturer about places that may do Red Hat courses in Cape Town [13:00] He gave me the names, LSD seems promising [13:00] nice [13:00] Still have to find the right Smart Source and CTU courses sites if they still exist :P [13:10] Bleh [13:10] SmartSource now only caters to business development and motivation [13:11] and CTU is now a Microsoft certification drone [13:11] ai [13:11] LSD is the only one remaining [13:12] It's really sad [13:14] You know in America this would be easy. You'd have LUG meetings all over the place and at every university of note with lectures by noted Linux royalty [13:14] But no, here we're slaves to the Windows Partnership program - the same program that has bankrupted COUNTRIES [13:14] Idiots [13:16] * Squirm prods Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [13:17] or not [13:17] I did not realize there was such hate for MS [13:18] its not hate [13:18] its worse [13:18] lol [13:18] hate is for a neighbours dog that barks all night [13:19] the deepest pits of hell is reserved for windows users..... [13:19] hahaha [13:19] * staticrat thinks he going to end up there [13:20] ok I have a excuse for using windows [13:20] Gaming [13:22] my notebook is now running linux but my pc will stay with windows....aint ready to give up playing CIV5 === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [13:33] No, I don't hate Windows users [13:33] I hate Microsoft programs [13:33] As in training or advertising programs, not software :P [13:33] ah [13:34] just needed clarity, thought you might axe me or something since I am still a windows user [13:35] Damn, I missed it :( [13:35] The training course was on the 7th [13:35] Also ouch, R13k with the exam - but it's worth it [13:35] 13,6k to be exact [13:36] Btw Thanks Squirm [13:38] anyway Trix [13:38] doing cifs shares [13:39] I think I'll contact LSD to find out if they're doing any courses before September again, otherwise I'm screwed for half a year :P [13:40] Btw staticrat: FreeCiv [13:40] :P [13:43] Perspective Employer: "So how did you get your RHCE", Trixar_za: "Through LSD" [13:44] Yeah, I can see how that can be a problem [13:44] lol [13:47] I saw that but it not as good as CIV5 [13:48] The Tilesets make it pretty good [13:48] and I don't know, I found the first CIV fun even with it's crappy graphics [13:48] Note, I played the first one around the time the 4th one came out [13:48] :P [13:48] lol [13:49] <3 Dosbox [13:49] i got the gods and kings expansion and love to start my own religion [13:49] funny as hell when ghandi wants to join urkism [13:50] dosbox is cool, used to play transport tycoon using dosbox [13:51] anyway my time is up. I have allot of reading material to keep me busy tonight hopefully by tomorrow i will be some what better at linux [13:51] * staticrat says good afternoon, good evening and good night [13:52] There is another one, but I prefer not to mention it [13:52] :P [13:52] It uses Java [13:52] FreeCol [13:52] :P === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [14:33] anyway, bbl. almost done with this course [17:16] Evening all [17:16] evening~ [17:16] wb magespawn [17:16] hi Cantide [17:16] Kilos o/ [17:17] Hey hey, whats up y'all? [17:17] same old same old. where you been? poaching again? [17:18] Yup all day today [17:18] and yesterday? [17:18] you been away a while [17:19] I was here yesterday, i think? [17:19] oh my [17:20] Pretty sure but only in the morning. [17:20] maybe i was away. i forget [17:20] tried xfce here [17:20] sucks [17:22] maybe ill stay with unity and kde [17:25] xfce sucks? 'o' [17:25] can't say i've heard that before [17:25] ya doesnt even show nm [17:25] i like to see my connection [17:26] ah [17:26] surely there is a way around that.. [17:26] but maybe more trouble than you're prepared for :p [17:26] but it was only 9m download so will look at it again sometime [17:26] haha [17:26] nice :D [17:30] I have used it before, i enjoyed the lightness [17:30] yeah, i'm sure i'd like that, too [17:31] although my current PC handles unity perfectly well [17:31] maybe its just the diffs. one needs to look for stuff in other places [17:31] new things manfoozle me [17:32] yeah, any new interface takes some getting used to [17:32] hi timkeller [17:32] i hated Unity for quite a while :p [17:32] hi timkeller :p [17:32] yeah unity actually grows on you [17:33] you get used to the dash and extra clicking to open stuff [17:33] i don't use the dash too much [17:34] i do to open synaptic and mahjong and freecell [17:35] I am getting used to KDE [17:35] kde is lekker hey magespawn [17:35] only it dont bloep [17:36] Kilos: no [17:37] ? [17:37] kde does bloep [17:37] bell.ogg? [17:37] please redefine that and say it doesn't bloep with the same sound as Unity [17:37] Kilos bit of a learning curve [17:38] s/redefine/rephrase/ [17:38] man the sound "bloep" is bell.ogg [17:38] not pew or some feeble sound [17:39] ai! [17:39] ai! ek sukkel [17:39] lol [17:39] i need to hear bloep inna kitchen when cooking and washing dishes [17:45] Kilos: go find any sound on the intertubes and change it to your preference [17:45] no [17:45] i like bloep in the right place [17:46] so just put it there and forget it [17:46] you wanna argue again. whew [17:46] ai! [17:46] you had a hard day? [17:46] rofl [17:46] * inetpro don't like hearing that KDE is bad for no reason [17:47] sigh [17:47] inetpro, ^^ 19.38 [17:48] pein [17:49] 31/01 19:38:07 s/redefine/rephrase/ [17:49] pyn [17:49] sigh [17:49] ok magespawn kde doesnt bloep with the same lovely loud sound as gnome [17:50] forgive me for not being a master of languages inetpro [17:50] lol [17:50] so [17:51] when we gonna get the greeter here?? [17:51] Kilos: sjoe, jou been lekker lank nou? [17:51] yo zeref [17:51] watter been [17:53] inetpro, ^^6 [17:53] answer! [17:54] lol [17:54] Kilos: ok sorry oom [17:54] lol [17:54] sal nie weer nie [17:54] you twit [17:55] answer that question man [17:55] ai! [17:55] Kilos: what question? [17:55] Kilos> when we gonna get the greeter here?? [17:55] ai! [17:55] ^^ means look up 6 lines [17:55] that was 5 up not six [17:56] oh ya sorry [17:56] :-) [17:56] sjoe [17:56] so answer it man [17:57] Kilos: we'll probably see an upgraded Maaz when ibid is officially released next [17:57] * inetpro bbl [17:57] lol skelm [17:58] yo cocooncrash all good there? [17:58] you well? [17:58] Kilos: Yup, doing well [17:59] good [18:00] hey not_found you sneaked in so silently [18:08] Fancy silent in chat [18:08] lol [18:09] we got sucks help for ##kilos magespawn [18:09] learning linux [18:28] hi there kbmonkey [18:28] hi hi [18:29] whats news? [18:30] hmm.. lets see [18:30] hehe [18:30] heard of a movie about jobbs being released [18:30] and wozniak thought it doesnt depict him too 'accurately'. lol [18:31] no man hows life in durbs treating you [18:31] and i'm drinking peach juice [18:31] yellow peach? [18:31] looks like a storm is coming [18:31] reason? [18:32] medical reasons [18:32] because its purejoy :P [18:32] lol thats good enough [18:32] tropica peach? [18:48] night guys. sleep tight. [18:48] awe, darn :p [18:48] Maaz, tell kilos on freenode, goodnight! [18:48] kbmonkey: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [18:52] Night all [19:02] Maaz: tell kilos goeie nag oom [19:02] inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [19:02] good night magespawn [19:03] good idea, and good night all :] [19:07] ai! [19:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBirGakU9ME If you want to be blown away by South African music. [19:15] it's only 9pm, you need to get to at least 10pm before it starts getting close to "late" [19:15] it's really worth a listen to [19:19] Squirm: also a local guy (I know him personally) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9AaCbnOisU [19:20] I play squash with her mother [19:20] * Squirm listens [19:23] superfly: they're pretty good. I don't think small, local artists actually get the exposure they deserve [19:26] Squirm: Shaun Jacobs will be live on Jacaranda FM tomorrow morning at 10:30 [19:27] dunno if you can get that radio station (being in Cape Town, it's out of range for me ;-) ) [19:27] I'm in jhb till Sunday [19:28] will have a listen