[00:00] <OerHeks> gskellig, maybe you want to checkout the #bumblebee channel too
[00:00] <Celso> gskellig, stick with bumblebee because with vgaswitcheroo, i can't alternate from intel to ati.
[00:00] <xius> is there anyone around that can help me install 12.04 onto my mac? I'm experiencing some issues I haven't seen in any tute.
[00:00] <gskellig> Celso, I'm confused, isn't that the point? That you can switch back and forth
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Do you understand what happened now?
[00:01] <pamela> hi can eny one know program "gnome disk utility" ? I have install it but i cant see my hardrives there
[00:01] <blunted> Xius ask away no idea if help can be given
[00:02] <Celso> gskellig, well, it is but hybrid graphics on linux is curently problematic. in theory, vgaswitcheroo should work but for now, i didnt found yet a solution.
[00:02] <xius> when I ran the installer, it encountered an error when installing grub, so I decided to restart my mac holding "alt" so I could boot into OS X again
[00:03] <xius> except, the only disk it showed availible to load was "Windows" which I had not seen before
[00:03] <blunted> Gskellig, this doesn't work right windows yet and its nvidia.  I wish you the new of uck
[00:03] <jhutchins_wk> xius: Try thatl refit may have mistaken it.
[00:03] <xius> rEFIt didn't even load.
[00:03] <gskellig> I'm not really interested in the "hybrid" as much as I am just being able to switch between one or another
[00:04] <gskellig> I don't mind doing it manually, I want my laptop on the integrated graphcis 90% of the time anyway
[00:04] <Celso> gskellig, for me, to be able to use intell i need to use sleep 6 comand on /rc.local file  but if i dont use that command, i am not able to switch it
[00:04] <gskellig> ah gotcha
[00:04] <L3top> gskellig: I assume you are on an ati hybrid?
[00:04] <roasted> Well that's fun. I have my server running with two mirrored drives via mdadm. To test a fault, I powered it off, unhooked one drive, and booted up. I said y to boot degraded and things worked fine on a single drive. So, I powered back off, plugged in the other hdd, powered up, and now it's booting up degraded each and every single flipping time. Nice.
[00:05] <gskellig> no L3top nvidia
[00:05] <daftykins> roasted: sounds epic
[00:05] <gskellig> Nvidia GT218M
[00:05] <roasted> it pretty much is
[00:05] <roasted> never hadt his happen before
[00:05] <Celso> gskellig : yes, ati 5000 series+ intel hd3000
[00:05] <L3top> gskellig: you want bumblebee
[00:05] <blunted> Xius are you doing a dual boot or standard load
[00:05] <Celso> gskellig : but mst of time i use intel.
[00:06] <xius> both produce the same result
[00:06] <L3top> no
[00:06] <Celso> gskellig : by the way, did the brightness link worked?
[00:06] <xius> "Missing operating system"
[00:06] <gmulak_> Is anyone here going to SCaLe 11x?  So Calif Linux Expo at the LAX Hilton?  Here? http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x
[00:06] <L3top> I am
[00:06] <gskellig> Celso, I'm waiting for a minute because I read that installing a different nvidia driver might work
[00:06] <L3top> re SCaLe
[00:06] <gskellig> going to try that first then try your link. It's bookmarked =P
[00:06] <Celso> oh ok
[00:06] <Celso> no problem
[00:06] <gmulak_> L3top:  cool - I will be at the Ubuntu booth
[00:07] <daftykins> roasted: never used it if i'm honest, but are there any status utils you can try to see if it's even trying? or something to run to 'provoke' it?
[00:07] <L3top> gskellig: there is only one solution worth seeking with nvidia hybrid... bumblebee
[00:07] <L3top> gmulak_: I will be there under LinuxMCE
[00:07] <roasted> daftykins: I have no idea. I ran cat /proc/mdstat and I can see it thinks /dev/sdc is missing. However, blkid shows sdb and sdc are there and active.
[00:07] <Celso> true L3top
[00:07] <blunted> Xius what error on installing grub
[00:07] <gmulak_> L3top:  What is LinuxMCE?
[00:08] <L3top> !linuxmce
[00:08] <xius> just said it couldn't install on the selected drive
[00:08] <L3top> lol
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Blind mice Linux
[00:08] <histo> L3top: What makes you think every sector was overwritten by windows?
[00:08] <L3top> gmulak_: linuxmce.org
[00:08] <histo> L3top: specifically anything in the ubuntu partition was overwritten by windows for that matter
[00:08] <gmulak_> L3top:  let me check it out....
[00:08] <blunted> I assume normal MBR install
[00:08] <Celso> gskellig : for more info check this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[00:08] <L3top> histo it isn't an issue of sector overwrite exactly... if you would like to discuss this in depth hit ubuntu-offtopic...
[00:09] <Celso> gskellig : in the middle of the page you will see about nvidia cards
[00:09] <histo> L3top: are you going to join?
[00:09] <daftykins> roasted: how frustrating. i'm glad i run with hardware controllers at times :>
[00:10] <roasted> daftykins: one hardware controller was all it took to jump that ship bro :D
[00:10] <daftykins> haha
[00:10] <roasted> daftykins: I've had boards fry and taken my mdadm RAID'd drives into a completely different system, installed mdadm, and had my array running on totally different hardware.
[00:10] <daftykins> i've had a few 3wares
[00:10] <daftykins> liked 'em all
[00:10] <L3top> No histo... I am not. Nor are you going to provide a source. Your position is, however, off topic.
[00:10] <histo> L3top: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_carving
[00:10] <histo> L3top: NOTICE THE ABSENSE OF FILESYSTEM PART
[00:10] <daftykins> roasted: that's pretty good
[00:10] <gmulak_> L3top:  That is sooo cool  Mobile computing.  I have to check that out.
[00:12] <Celso> ok. time to go. bb all
[00:12] <L3top> gmulak_: it is beyond the scope of ubuntu support to explain what we are. You are free to /join #linuxmce for a discussion on what we are.
[00:12] <histo> L3top: Also from what Sara describing what happened. She didn't even overwrite any of the vfiles on the ubuntu partition. That data was most likely untouched on the drive.  The partion was deleted it was dual partitioned at the half way point of the disk.  Then windows created a parttion and installed to the begining of the desk where it was originally. Not even touching the second half of the disk
[00:13] <L3top> histo... this is a support channel... you can come complain at me in #linuxmce too.
[00:13] <L3top> I AM there.
[00:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Wow I wish I were an admin here.
[00:13] <gmulak_> L3top:  I think I get it, thanks.  I will join it later - thank you.
[00:13] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: inorite
[00:13] <histo> L3top: I'm not complaining. I'm just trying to help you understand so you can stop telling people that their files are gone when they are infact not.
[00:13] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: though kicking never helped anything ;)
[00:14] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: There are admins here.
[00:14] <gmulak_> L3top:  Have to run erands now. bback later....
[00:14] <SonikkuAmerica> I know.
[00:14] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I'm using the netflix for Ubuntu app and WINE tells me to install Mono and Gecko, it's best if I install the package for my distro, what packages should in install??
[00:14] <pamela> mageia
[00:14] <L3top> I await your link to show how to recover an ext4 partition overwritten by a factory restore of windows. I know how to read.
[00:14] <L3top> until that happens... this is an off topic discussion
[00:14] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77: that netflix thing pulls them all in as needed
[00:15] <L3top> and I dont have time for off topic
[00:15] <histo> L3top: She didn't want to recover the parttion just the files
[00:15] <L3top> source
[00:15] <Sara_> ok im back i was frozen can you send me a messege america..
[00:15] <L3top> again... this is not what this channel is for
[00:15] <histo> I already explained that the partition was gone but the files aren't.
[00:15] <L3top> you win
[00:15] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis, so...I don't have to do anything?
[00:15] <L3top> better?
[00:15] <frowni> Is there anyway to remove unity ?
[00:15] <L3top> Off topic
[00:15] <frowni> I cant get used to it
[00:16] <L3top> !nounity
[00:16] <histo> frowni: you can uninstall it. Or just switch de's
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> frowni: [ sudo apt-get {remove | purge} unity ]
[00:16] <Sara_> Im back send me a message please
[00:16] <dr_willis> JokesOnYou77: i dident have to
[00:16] <histo> Sara_: A message about?
[00:17] <L3top> fix her histo.
[00:17] <JokesOnYou77> dr_willis, well ok then.  Thanks you :)
[00:17] <L3top> I will await your success
[00:17] <L3top> You cannot use the word because.
[00:18] <histo> Sara_: Are the files that were on your ubuntu partition worth the time to attempt to recover? ex: jpgs oo docs etc....
[00:18] <daftykins> SonikkuAmerica: are you catching the messages from Sara_ above?
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> daftykins, I did.
[00:18] <daftykins> ok :)
[00:19] <L3top> histo... why would her arbitrary evaluation of worth matter? Sounds like backing down from the challenge to me.
[00:19] <gmulak_> frowni:  Yes there is, but I don't remember the command.  Even better, it goes back to Gnome!  It's slick.
[00:19] <Brewster> is there a suggestion box of some sort for ubuntu?
[00:19] <L3top> I should probably log off this chan. I am off topic
[00:19] <gmulak_> frowni:  sonikkuamerica has it I think
[00:19] <histo> L3top: because scanning the unallocated space on her drive will take overnight most likely
[00:19] <SonikkuAmerica> frowni: [ sudo apt-get {remove | purge} unity ]
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> There it is again.
[00:20] <histo> L3top: if the files are trivial to her she maynot wan't to waste the time.
[00:20] <OerHeks> Brewster, http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[00:20] <Brewster> ty
[00:20] <L3top> This is off topic histo. I am feeding at this point. Ignore me.
[00:20] <frowni> i did it SonikkuAmerica  :) thank you. now installing gnome-shell
[00:20] <daftykins> histo: i'm partly amused you're still on this but mostly horrified.
[00:20] <roasted> Question - is it a bad idea to have an ext file system on your hard disks BEFORE you add them to a mdadm array?
[00:20] <histo> daftykins: Sara just asked for a message? I'll ignore her if you want.
[00:21] <daftykins> histo: is it one of those - i need to go to bed but WAIT! Someone is WRONG on the INTERNET! moments?
[00:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh hallowed Internet. :P
[00:21] <magma> hi, I just want to allow ssh connections to my machines through key authentications. How can I do that, disable passwords?
[00:21] <histo> daftykins: well I know i'm right and I hate for someone to lose files that are important to them.
[00:22] <daftykins> histo: roger that.
[00:22] <histo> Sara_: Did you boot off of the live cd?  Also do you have an external drive we can recover files to.
[00:23] <hplc> talking of live cd, how well does "hirens boot cd" do in comparison to other distros?
[00:23] <magma> How can I disable authentications with password to my machine via ssh?
[00:23] <OerHeks> hplc hirens boot cd is illegal
[00:24] <histo> hplc: not really a distro but a group of tools I thought.
[00:24] <hplc> OerHeks, it is? :s
[00:24] <Hamtechperson> Hey, can someone help me with installing Wine?
[00:24] <roasted> That's the first I ever heard of this.
[00:24] <OerHeks> hplc use UBcd instead, it has all the tools too
[00:24] <histo> magma: edit the /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[00:24] <Ben64> magma: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/530
[00:24] <histo> Hamtechperson: sudo apt-get remove wine
[00:24] <hplc> OerHeks, thanks
[00:24] <magma> thanks
[00:25] <Ben64> histo: that does not install wine...
[00:25] <histo> Hamtechperson: sorry installing thought you typed uninstalling
[00:25] <histo> lol
[00:25] <histo> Hamtechperson: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:25] <gmulak_> bb for now
[00:25]  * histo eyes are blurred with rage.  jk L3top
[00:25] <SonikkuAmerica> Heck, use UBCD
[00:25] <histo> heath: What is it that you want to accomplish with HBCD?
[00:25] <Hamtechperson> Ok, any repositories to add?
[00:26] <histo> hplc: like what is your goal with it?
[00:26] <Ben64> Hamtechperson: you could add the wine ppa, find it at winehq.org
[00:26] <histo> !info wine | Hamtechperson
[00:26] <histo> Hamtechperson: just make sure universe is enabled
[00:26] <hplc> histo, just came to mind that i often find it useful to have a toolset on cd just in case i really need them
[00:26] <Drumroll> I'm having a hell of a time
[00:27] <Ben64> hplc: offtopic, but i use TRK a lot
[00:27] <histo> hplc: well having a ubuntu cd bootable is pretty usable. You can install any tool in the repos and use it to fix.
[00:27] <Hamtechperson> Quantal is 12.10?
[00:27] <Drumroll> How do I download a package and all of its dependencies onto a USB?
[00:27] <Drumroll> I've been googling it for a while
[00:27] <histo> !releases > Hamtechperson
[00:27] <Drumroll> keryx did not work for me
[00:27] <OerHeks> !offline
[00:28] <Drumroll> thank you ubottu
[00:28] <OerHeks> Drumroll, i would choose apt-on-cd
[00:28] <Drumroll> is that appropriate for just a single package and its dependencies?
[00:28] <histo> Drumroll: apt-get with the -d option will download only
[00:28] <Drumroll> I was under the impression that apt-on-cd would install a lot of packages
[00:28] <Drumroll> someone said you have to do it from a clean install
[00:28] <Hamtechperson> I'll need a precise version.
[00:29] <histo> Hamtechperson: precise is 12.04
[00:29] <Hamtechperson> That's what I have.
[00:29] <histo> Hamtechperson: okay then why do you need it still?
[00:29] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll need a precise version... O.o
[00:30] <Hamtechperson> I was late to the 12.04 party, wanted the LTS.
[00:30] <histo> Hamtechperson: did you just say that's what you have?
[00:30] <histo> Hamtechperson: You aren't making any sense.
[00:31] <L3top> Hamtechperson: can you please provide an actual support problem? In enough detail on one line, that will provide me understanding enough to help you?
[00:31] <SonikkuAmerica> !circles
[00:32] <histo> When will then be now?
[00:32] <Hamtechperson> Best way to install Wine on 12.04.1.
[00:32] <histo> Hamtechperson: sudo apt-get install wine
[00:32] <L3top> +1 histo
[00:33] <Hamtechperson> Ok.
[00:33] <histo> Hamtechperson: Oh I see you got confused by the response from ubottu. Yeah ignore that. quantal part. I was just showing you that wine was in universe
[00:33] <histo> !info wine precise | Hamtechperson
[00:33] <histo> Hamtechperson: Is that better?
[00:33] <Hamtechperson> Yeah, that was what had thrown me.
[00:34] <memand> Is there something in bash that represents any integer?
[00:34] <Ben64> Hamtechperson: and newer versions are available with a ppa
[00:34] <Hamtechperson> PPA?
[00:34] <escott> i cant get gdb to attach to a process. I have changed the value of /proc/sys/kernel/yama/ptrace_scope to 0 and have tried running sudo gdb ./myprogram. neither works
[00:34] <Ben64> !ppa | Hamtechperson
[00:34] <histo> !ppa | Hamtechperson I would only use them if the default doesn't work
[00:35] <dr_willis> memand:  i thought bash only did ints..  but you may want to douvbke check in #bash  i haventg scripted in bash in ages
[00:36] <Hamtechperson> Hash bash?
[00:36]  * SonikkuAmerica facepalms
[00:36] <dr_willis> Hamtechperson:  irc basics.... channel names start with a #
[00:37] <escott> ahh nevermind
[00:37] <memand> thanks :)
[00:37] <Hamtechperson> I know. It's just how things read. It was slightly humorous.
[00:40] <UlyssesGa> Hi there!  Repeat question from earlier today (I had to step away).  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).
[00:40] <UlyssesGa> If Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.
[00:43] <dr_willis> ive seen systems (bios's) that swap hds around. so that whatever hd boots.. becomes sda.  that would mean when you boot the win8 drive directly its sda. but when grub boots it from the 2nd hd.. it would become sdb..  that might confuse windows..   (not sire if this IS the issue. but ive seen that issue)
[00:46] <phoenixsampras> hellowzor
[00:49] <OerHeks> dr_willis, should UlyssesGa set boot on the 2nd drive and run update-grub to change the windows entry /
[00:49] <OerHeks> ?
[00:50] <dr_willis> OerHeks:  he could try.
[00:50] <dr_willis> but hes allready ran update-grub to get grub on the hd.. i dont think the entry will change
[00:53] <dr_willis> bbl
[00:53] <UlyssesGa> Yes - I did run update-grub.  Further details- I was running Win7/Ubuntu but then upgraded to Win8.  Win7/Ubuntu (in the configuration noted above) functioned OK.
[00:54] <_porque> Hello world!
[00:55] <david_> hello all
[00:56] <UlyssesGa> here's the link to the boot-repair output - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591745/
[00:56] <aaas> i have a headless server and I have this annyong problem that periodically the computer does not reboot because grub no longer countsdown...anyone experience this before..I've had this problem for the last several versions  a grub-update sometimes fixes it but I have no idea why it does this periodically
[00:57] <david_> I want to intstall ubuntu on my machine. My machine has two hard drives. onw with mint and one with windows. Whitch install option should I pick so that I can still launch into windows to linux depending on the drive
[00:57] <david_> ?
[00:57] <_porque> I have this code: https://github.com/gerep/opengit/blob/master/.opengit I want to be able to accept options when calling it, like opengit -m file.dat
[00:57] <_porque> can someone please tell me how?
[00:57] <david_> 'I hvae that set up this way now with linux mint
[00:57] <david_> works fine
[00:58] <david_> in other words dual booting but with seperate drives. Just want to know the right install option to pick, ef "install alongside " ect.......
[00:59] <UlyssesGa> bbl...
[01:00] <david_> in other words dual booting but with seperate drives. Just want to know the right install option to pick, eg "install alongside " ect.......
[01:00] <roasted> hello friends. Any mdadm experts? I tried to "test" my array by powering it off, unplugging a drive, booting up, powering off, plugging it back in, and booting up again. But it comes up each and every time as degraded. I expected that it would slide back into working mode but the 2nd drive isn't cooperating. Thoughts?
[01:03] <somsip> _porque: you would be best adding an issue to github repo, or asking in #bash if you want advice on coding in bash script
[01:03] <tripelb> I can't understand the grub2 tutorial. I would like someone to help me. PC machine. LiveCD cannot find any OS's. Grub can but....
[01:04] <vish> Hi
[01:05] <vish> I am unable to find the enable wireless option in my system..
[01:05] <vish> I tried to install wicd... But it dint go through..
[01:05] <tripelb> Fish it's on by default.
[01:06] <vish> Not in my case :(
[01:06] <tripelb> Vish it is on at startup, by default. If all works it just connects.
[01:07] <vish> I installed ubuntu on my new laptop it worked fine.. When i installed on my old laptop it is giving this prob..
[01:07] <roasted> tripelb: I've used this guide in the past, for what it's worth - http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[01:07] <tripelb> Vish I am suggesting that the problem is not in the turning the wireless on- sofgware on off switch.
[01:08] <tripelb> Roasted, will look. I was stumped at grub rescue (and no one here responded) and do not know how it got what looks like npbetter. OK looking at link.
[01:09] <roasted> tripelb: I never bothered with grub once I hit the grub rescue menu. I always restored via liveUSB/liveCD like that link suggests.
[01:16] <xxiao> is there a way to list all ubuntu server release packages?
[01:16] <Revaski> Hello, I have a problem with running Ubuntu(12.10 &12.04) on my PC(AMD Athlon 64 x2 2.5GHz; Asus M2N4-SLI; 2GB RAM). It always freezes and forces me to reboot the PC.
[01:24] <Miebster> When I plug in my iphone 5 into my macbook pro retina 10,1 with ubuntu 12.10, I get a modal dialog box that says "unable to mount iphone" the okay button doesn't work, the close button doens't work, there is no window title.  Any thoughts on what this is or how to fix it?
[01:25] <god> hello
[01:26] <jbas> Hi
[01:26] <jbas> I am trying to understand what is happening with the Skype for Linux
[01:27] <Guest97420> i was wondering if there is any good programs to run that will help videos buffer faster and play better
[01:27] <jbas> I just installed and after 5 min, shutdown
[01:27] <somsip> jbas: how did you install?
[01:28] <jbas> I just downloaded from skype web site
[01:28] <histo> jbas: dunno you'd have to ask them.
[01:28] <somsip> jbas: maybe best to use the version in the repos if you're having problems. I think you have to enable the partners repo list
[01:28] <histo> jbas: see if you can file a bug or something.
[01:29] <jbas> Sorry, but I am new in Linux
[01:29] <nathan_> can anyone help me with wifi drivers for my W530?
[01:29] <jbas> What is Repo List?
[01:29] <Guest97420> i have plash aid and download helper, can anyone tell me if there is something that will make videos buffer faster?
[01:29] <somsip> jbas: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[01:29] <Guest97420> *flash
[01:29] <jbas> 12.04 LTS
[01:30] <tylerwoodward> Is it safe to remove everything in Not Installed (residual config) or would it mess something up?
[01:30] <somsip> jbas: 32 or 64 bit?
[01:30] <jbas> 64
[01:31] <somsip> jbas: remove the downloaded version you installed and follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-skype-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[01:31] <joshts> hello
[01:32] <phoenixsampras> skype is easy, ive just installed 10 mins ago
[01:32] <joshts> i have a question
[01:32] <phoenixsampras> download it from skype.com, dpkg -i skype.deb
[01:32] <phoenixsampras> apt-get -f install
[01:32] <arbit30719> Hi every one
[01:33] <graves> guys
[01:33] <graves> huge problem
[01:33] <graves> my pc
[01:33] <graves> (1.9 ghz, 4 gigs ram)
[01:33] <graves> won't run MC on xubuntu
[01:33] <arbit30719> I have face some problem deploying juju with MAAS
[01:33] <FloodBot1> graves: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:33] <phoenixsampras> got Windows ?
[01:33] <graves> (minecraft)
[01:33] <arbit30719> the detail is shown in http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[01:33] <graves> mc gets five frames
[01:33] <phoenixsampras> omg... another Minecraft lad
[01:33] <graves> it got 50 on vista
[01:33] <joshts> i am trying to get videos to buffer faster, is there something i can do to help?
[01:33] <graves> pheonix, get over yourself
[01:33] <somsip> !enter | graves
[01:33] <jbas> SOMSIP. Thank you very much. I will try
[01:33] <graves> !enter
[01:33] <graves> ?
[01:34] <graves> I need help
[01:34] <phoenixsampras> maybe in #minecraftfans ?
[01:34] <graves> when mc crashes, it leaves this hs_err_pid1843.log:
[01:34] <somsip> jbas: there are reported problems with skype sometimes, but highly recommended to start with the ubuntu package rather than the deb. YMMV for other users
[01:34] <arbit30719> can somebody help me ?
[01:34] <jbas> Great.! Thank you very much
[01:35] <jbas> Bye Folks and thank you!
[01:35]  * rootpt is away: bbl
[01:36] <phoenixsampras> the skype .deb worked fine for me by years
[01:36] <somsip> phoenixsampras: As I said, YMMV for other users
[01:36] <joshts> does anyone have any tips on how to speed up buffering time?
[01:36] <phoenixsampras> YMMV? you moda ..... ?
[01:37] <somsip> phoenixsampras: Your Mileage May Vary. It means it's not always the same for everyone and it's intended to prevent people popping up saying 'But it worked/didn't work for me'
[01:37] <phoenixsampras> oh i see
[01:38] <arbit30719> Hello guys
[01:40] <bashnoob> Can someone here point me to a good guide for booting a Live session of Ubuntu (or any linux distro really) from a USB drive on a Macbook running OSX 10.8 (Mountain Lion)?
[01:41] <bashnoob> ah hell im in unreg arent I?
[01:41] <bashnoob> Stupid macbook not knowing my reg handle.
[01:41] <dcope> anyone running 12.04 on a carbon x1? curious as to driver support and battery life.
[01:41] <dcope> i'm about ready to unload my macbook air
[01:42] <NotIronic> I've noticed when I do an ls -l some of the permissions end with an @ or a + what do those mean?
[01:42] <dcope> NotIronic: + for executable
[01:43] <NotIronic> you could have an executable directory in Linux?
[01:43] <dcope> sorry, brainfart
[01:44] <NotIronic> dcope:  no prob.. here's a sample of what I see:  drwxr-xr-x@
[01:45] <janderson91z> hey guys, could i possibly get some help?
[01:45] <janderson91z> i have an amd 4850 and want to install the catalyst 13.1 drivers for legacy cards so i can download steam and play tf2. is version in jockey 13.1?
[01:46] <NotIronic> ah, looks like it's specifically for my version -- thanks anyway
[01:47] <phoenixsampras> what version?
[01:47] <janderson91z> i'm on 12.04
[01:48] <arbit30719> can some body help me solve juju and MAAS problem
[01:48] <arbit30719> I have also posted on ask ubuntu
[01:49] <arbit30719> http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[01:51] <Guest34347> hello, I am trying to get youtube videos fired up but get a message 'could not load shockwave player'. I installed ubuntu-restricted extras, but no luck. Also, I get this message when I do an update on my computer: http://pastebin.com/RWw9KHFT
[01:51] <NotIronic> phoenixsampras: I'm using Mac OS X and Ubuntu 12.04 (VM).. I saw this is OS X
[01:52] <NotIronic> forgot which box I was working on for a second there since I've been using SSH between the systems
[01:52] <phoenixsampras> NotIronic: ok
[01:53] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, what browser are you using?
[01:53] <Guest34347> chrome
[01:53] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Chrome
[01:54] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, where does the message pop up?  In a message bar at the top of the window?
[01:55] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Yep, just below the addy bar
[01:55] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, I know this one seems obvious, but have you tried restarting the browser?
[01:55] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, I restarted the whole freaken 'puter
[01:56] <_helios_> ubuntu has got to be the coolest OS ever.
[01:56] <Guest34347> what about this issue: http://pastebin.com/RWw9KHFT
[01:57] <bravis> oi
[01:57] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, do you have Flash Player installed?
[01:57] <Guest34347> I did run apt-get update, the same issue pops up
[01:57] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Does ubuntu-restricted-extras not do that?
[01:58] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, Adding restricted-extras to your sources allows you to download additional packages not supported by connonical, it doesn't automatically install anything for you thoguh
[01:59] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, Open up the software center and search for Adobe Flash
[01:59] <arbit30719> can some body help me solve juju and MAAS problem : I have also posted on ask ubuntu  http://askubuntu.com/questions/249350/juju-cannot-deploy-services-with-maas
[02:00] <LikePuzzle> My ubuntu 10.04 is without sound.. Any device? Is KDE!
[02:00] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, you need to install Adobe Flash plugin
[02:01] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, What do you make of this? http://pastebin.com/RWw9KHFT
[02:01] <josesierra> hi guys.  So, I'm trying to install Sublime text editor right...?  I can get the app running, but how do I get the app into my gnome menus..?  Am I even in the right channel to ask this question?
[02:01] <josesierra> (I'm using gnome shell)
[02:02] <nomodeset> I've tried to install ktechlab, but when I run ./configure I have: hecking for KDE... configure: error:
[02:02] <nomodeset> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
[02:02] <nomodeset> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[02:02] <penguinman> josesierra, look into alacarte
[02:03] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, you have duplicate entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:03] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:03] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, do you want to fix it using the software center or manually with the terminal?  I haven't used Lubuntu in a log time so I don't know what else is available to you
[02:04] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, Command line, baby
[02:04] <Miebster> I tried to update my boot loader, grub asks me what to boot, I select ubuntu, and then just a blank purple screen.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591988/
[02:05] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, open up a terminal and enter: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  (no quotes)
[02:05] <LikePuzzle> How can I fix a sound problem in the ubuntu 10.04?
[02:06] <dr_willis> !alsa
[02:06] <nomodeset> !mint
[02:06] <nomodeset> !irc
[02:06] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, that will bring up the file that lists all of the software repositories available to your system in a terminal-based text editor called nano
[02:07] <JokesOnYou77> Guest343
[02:08] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, The lines that start with a # are commented out and not read by apt. All you should have to do is comment out those duplicate lines.  If they're not there is one other place to look as well, but it's unlikely
[02:08] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, http://pastebin.com/LH5q0wSY
[02:10] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, unless you're not finished installing your system or you always run with the disk in for some reason you should comment out both of the lines with the cdrom
[02:15] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, I just installed flash through the synaptic thingy, should I do a reboot?
[02:15] <NewUbu> Good evening all
[02:15] <Guest34347> JokesOnYou77, according to the command line I already have adobe flash plugin
[02:15] <NewUbu> can someone tell me how to turn off the hover click
[02:16] <Guest34347> latest and greatest
[02:16] <NewUbu> i think the kids somehow turned it on and it is driving me crazy
[02:16] <Guest34347> "could not load shockwave flash" wtf?
[02:17] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, you shouldn't have to reboot.  Windows makes you reboot all the darn time because it has to make changes to protected system files and such, unless you're changing drivers you rarely have to reboot in ubuntu
[02:17] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, what do you mean according to the command line?
[02:18] <JokesOnYou77> Guest34347, restart chrome and then in a new tab go to chrome://plugins
[02:18] <NewUbu> Good evening all
[02:19] <NewUbu> can someone tell me how to turn off the hover click
[02:19] <NewUbu> i think the kids somehow turned it on and it is driving me crazy
[02:20] <NewUbu> Good evening all
[02:20] <NewUbu> can someone tell me how to turn off the hover click
[02:20] <NewUbu> i think the kids somehow turned it on and it is driving me crazy
[02:20] <LikePuzzle> NewUbu, What is your machine?
[02:20] <NewUbu> ubuntu 10.12
[02:20] <NewUbu> the latest one
[02:21] <LikePuzzle> 12.10? Just search for keypad and change the configurations!
[02:22] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  In 11.10  Disable mouse hover function of Oneiric Oeclot .  On the top right of your desktop, click on your name  Click “System settings”  Click “Universal access”  Click “Pointing and clicking” tab  Set “Hover click” to “OFF”
[02:22] <NewUbu> yes. 12.10
[02:23] <ChaozHenchman> I'm using a Sabrent usb-snd8 sound box
[02:23] <rob___> is there a way to easily purge the entire ubuntu-desktop in 12.10 in favor of another DE?
[02:23] <LikePuzzle> NewUbu.. More detail the fella post upthere!
[02:23] <ChaozHenchman> but the headphone jack for it doesn't seem to work
[02:23] <NewUbu> got it.
[02:23] <dr_willis> !purekde
[02:23] <rob___> thanks ubottu
[02:23] <NewUbu> thanks gmulak1
[02:23] <ChaozHenchman> the sound just plays out the laptop speakers
[02:24] <NewUbu> and <LikePuzzle>
[02:24] <dr_willis> not sure how acutate those guides are for 12.10 rob___
[02:24] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Do you have your name in the top right hand corner?
[02:24] <NewUbu> no but i went to the system setting
[02:25] <NewUbu> I have 12.10
[02:25] <NewUbu> it does not have the name in the top right
[02:25] <NewUbu> but in the bar on the left I have system settings
[02:25] <NewUbu> the rest was similar to what you said
[02:26] <gmulak1> newUbu:  Are you running Unity desktop or Gnome?
[02:26] <_porque> is someone here thats a boss in bash scripting?
[02:26] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:26] <dr_willis> _porque:  people in #bash are
[02:27] <LikePuzzle> NewBu, The name is optional. You can access the seetings clicking on the wheel on the corner top left of screen!
[02:27] <_porque> dr_willis, thanks ;)
[02:27] <NewUbu> dono... how can i check that
[02:27] <pertinate> Could I get some help mapping a mouse key to another mouse key using xbindkeys?
[02:28] <gmulak1> Do you have a little gear in the top right hand corner of your computer screen?
[02:28] <dr_willis> yea - top RIGHT = a system menu ;)
[02:29] <gmulak1> NewBu:  Look for the system menu.  You can even type it into search
[02:29] <NewUbu> yes
[02:29] <pertinate> Could I get some help mapping a mouse key to another mouse key using xbindkeys?
[02:30] <dr_willis> pertinate:  what have you done so far with it?
[02:30] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Did you find systems settings?
[02:31] <bravis> woot
[02:31] <pertinate> dr_willis: I have the code down, I just don't know how to call the middle mouse clicking function when I press the extra key on my mouse.
[02:32] <NewUbu> ye
[02:32] <NewUbu> yes
[02:32] <NewUbu> but in the bar on the left
[02:32] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Yes what?  If you found system settings than click universal access
[02:34] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Doesn't really matter where, it could be placed differently in dif desktops.  Find system settings, OK?
[02:34] <tripelb> roasted u here. reporting ba k how it got stuck.
[02:35] <NewUbu> done
[02:35] <NewUbu> ten
[02:35] <NewUbu> then
[02:35] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  You got it?
[02:35] <sipelaut> how to empaty full hdd
[02:35] <pertinate> :/
[02:37] <NewUbu> are you helping me fix the hover click problem?
[02:37] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  I am trying NewUbu.  Did you find the system settings menu?
[02:38] <NewUbu> I fixed it with your initial comment
[02:38] <Seven_Six_Two> I took my laptop apart and replaced the video cable. Now my wifi is blocked and I can't remember how to unsoftblock it
[02:38] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  You are good!  thanks.
[02:38] <folorn> does anyone got time to help me resolve this error please  ive got something running in the software center but the process is refusing to quit any ideas how to kill it?
[02:38] <NewUbu> i though you wanted to know what distro <I was using
[02:39] <NewUbu> i asked how can i find that out
[02:39] <folorn> because ive tried reboots shutdowns nothing seems to kill it
[02:39] <NewUbu> :)
[02:39] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  No problem.  I thought you were stuck.  lol
[02:39] <NewUbu> but still thanks for the help
[02:39] <NewUbu> highly appreciate it
[02:39] <jerry_l> hello room
[02:40] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  No prob.  Are you going to SCaLE?  So. California Linux Expo on Feb 22?
[02:40] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, what process? it might be a child of another process, so the parent is restarting it
[02:40] <tripelb>  roken ubuntu installer soea not see any paeritions. i am now lookins at >sudo  fdisk
[02:40] <folorn> its stuck on applying changes !!
[02:41] <NewUbu> unfortunately can't... just started a new program at Uni
[02:41] <NewUbu> in toronto
[02:41] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  I understand.  It looks like it's going to be good.  I am going to be at the Ubuntu booth.
[02:42] <NewUbu> wish i could make it
[02:42] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:42] <folorn> any ideas seven_six_two
[02:43] <folorn> any ideas then seven_six_two?
[02:43] <gmulak1> NewUbu:  Perhaps next year.  Always in Feb.
[02:43] <phoenixsampras> RocketLauncher: use chrome?
[02:44] <NewUbu> will keep that in mind
[02:44] <NewUbu> thanks again
[02:44] <jerry_l> i want to set up ubuntu 10 as a media server for a bunch of xp computers. " http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157324 " asus rock, amd-e240, sata3, ddr3, 1gbLom, $60.00
[02:44] <tripelb> Broken install: ubuntu installer does not see any partitions. i am now lookins at >sudo  fdisk -l then > sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt  Which said that 'LVM2_member is an unknown filesystem type
[02:44] <RocketLauncher> phoenixsampras: >Using Chrome
[02:44] <jerry_l> i have 4 2TB HDs
[02:44] <RocketLauncher> nope
[02:45] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, ubuntu 10.04 I presume?
[02:45] <jerry_l> longterm 10?
[02:45] <phoenixsampras> thats a lot of pr0n
[02:45] <jerry_l> :) porn
[02:45] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, 10.04 is LTS
[02:45] <designbybeck__> I'm not saying I'm Lazy!... I'm just wondering how I can login to the other ubuntu machine acrsso the room that is plugged into the same router I'm on wifi with? If i wanted to browse or use it's files and such?
[02:45] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, FYI latest LTS is 12.04 ...
[02:45] <RocketLauncher> jerry_l: as a porn expert, how do you feel about implants
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !ot
[02:46] <jerry_l> ...
[02:46] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, oh you were installing something?
[02:46] <RocketLauncher> cfhowlett: Autism
[02:46] <RocketLauncher> i'll ask my question then
[02:46] <tripelb> i have been on this over a week.
[02:46] <RocketLauncher> I sudo apt-get remove libgtk-3.0 by mistake. It messed up LightDM so I had to reinstall that and gtk3. Firefox's menu text is now broken http://i.imgur.com/1lnoPd2.png
[02:46] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, I don't know why it would be stuck. You said that it's like that after a reboot too?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, I think the VNC function would do that ...
[02:47] <designbybeck__> cfhowlett:  so I just setup VNC on both machines?
[02:47] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, yes.  One to "dial out" and one to "accept call".  Forgive the imprecise verbiage, but you get the concept?
[02:48] <jerry_l> i have to go to home depot for a big shelf. any comments about ubuntu 10 or 12 as a better headless media server for a bunch of XP machines?
[02:48] <jerry_l> i will read when i get back. AFK.
[02:48] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, 12.04
[02:48] <cfhowlett> jerry_l, but also post this query is #ubuntu-server
[02:48] <jerry_l> my girl says hers are all natural and very nice. :)
[02:49] <jerry_l> ubuntu-server cool will go.
[02:49] <gmulak1> :-)
[02:49] <jerry_l> afk
[02:49] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, vinagre comes with all ubuntu version if I'm not mistaken ...
[02:50] <designbybeck__> never herad of it cfhowlett.... I'll look into it. Thank you
[02:50] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, that
[02:50] <cfhowlett> designbybeck_, that's the VNC launcher
[02:51] <folorn> ya seven i dunno what to do its locking me out of the Var folder so i can't even update stuff
[02:53] <phoenixsampras> is there a chat for ubuntu server?
[02:53] <cfhowlett> phoenixsampras, ironically enough #ubuntu-server  :)
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> phoenixsampras, #ubuntu-server
[02:53] <phoenixsampras> thanks
[02:54] <phoenixsampras> im so bored
[02:54] <hatake> hy how to fix this  chroot . /bin/bash = groups : cannot find name for group ID 19
[02:54] <hatake> can help my
[02:54] <Seven_Six_Two> folorn, can you see the software center window on the screen? what's the process called?
[02:54] <tripelb> i need help. i have the web page, follow instructions and got stuck. problem is a Broken install: ubuntu installer does not see any partitions. i am now lookins at >sudo  fdisk -l then > sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt  Which said that 'LVM2_member' is an unknown filesystem type
[02:54] <phoenixsampras> brasero is hung...
[02:55] <phoenixsampras> wont let me burn again
[02:55] <tripelb> lvm was invoked in error
[02:55] <cfhowlett> tripelb, can you see that lvm partition?
[02:55] <folorn> its called applying changes while doing so it crashed plus ive got quite afew broken packages dunno how to repair them as well
[02:56] <cfhowlett> tripelb, start over, delete the lvm and install as normal
[02:56] <phoenixsampras> help Brasero aint responding
[02:56] <tripelb> this has been over a week, grub-human please emerge for me.
[02:57] <phoenixsampras> stupid brasero
[02:57] <ChaozHenchman> how do you install sound drivers in ubuntu 12.10?
[02:57] <tripelb> cfhowlett: how do o do that? gparyed cannot see anything. fdisk can (so sorry for ignorance)
[02:57] <phoenixsampras> alsamixer/.
[02:57] <phoenixsampras> ?
[02:57] <cfhowlett> ChaozHenchman, you mean for a hardware device?  sound card?  what?
[02:58] <ChaozHenchman> sabrent usb-snd8
[02:58] <folorn> so i take it no idea then seven_six_two?
[02:58] <ChaozHenchman> usb soundbox
[02:58] <folorn> think anyone else could help with killing a process please ?
[02:58] <cfhowlett> tripelb, if this an ubuntu only machine?  restart your installation, wipe/format the hdd and then install.
[02:59] <cfhowlett> folorn, kill -9 process
[03:01] <folorn> thanks cfhowlett lemme see if it works
[03:02] <tripelb> i have a windiws partition too. cfhowlett ans an nt recovery. i
[03:02] <cfhowlett> folorn, kill -9 PID   (process identification number)
[03:02] <gskellig> Can someone help me get nvidia drivers working
[03:02] <folorn> how can i view the process's again?
[03:02] <tripelb> cfhowlett: reading man fdisk
[03:02] <gskellig> they are not showing up in additional drivers
[03:02] <cfhowlett> tripelb, OK.  reboot the installation media, delete that LVM partition
[03:03] <folorn> how ya list all of the process's running?
[03:03] <ulkesh> folorn: ps -ef
[03:04] <folorn> thanks ulkesh
[03:04] <ulkesh> np
[03:05] <mikehaas763> Hello. I noticed in Win 7 when using keyboard shortcuts to align a window to say the right half of my screen, if I keep doing it will move to my other monitor (I have dual screen). Is there a similar functionality in Ubuntu?
[03:05] <tripelb> how? cfhowlett gparted sees no partitions at all. i just checked.
[03:05] <mikehaas763> I guess any kind of keyboard shortcut to move a window to my other monitor would be awesome
[03:08] <folorn> here's a vpaste of the processes running on the box atm any ideas then which i should kill?
[03:08] <folorn> http://vpaste.net/RcUpD
[03:09] <ulkesh> folorn: what's stuck again?
[03:10] <cfhowlett> ulkesh, updates ... see the bottom of the image
[03:10] <gizmobay> df -h will tell me my temp size?
[03:10] <gizmobay> tmp
[03:10] <ulkesh> cfhowlett: good call :)
[03:10] <somsip> gizmobay: du -h /tmp
[03:11] <ulkesh> folorn: update-notifier (4141) or python /usr/lib/software-properties/softwa (4962) would be my guess
[03:11] <folorn> ya its stuck in like the updateing part wont let access to my updater
[03:12] <folorn> i kinda was thinking the same 1sec
[03:12] <gizmobay> ls -al what is the units for the file size? Kb or MB?
[03:12] <ulkesh> folorn: i sometimes see the updater look like it's stuck, but actually it's simply wanting some input on the "command line" of it (where you expand the details of what's going on)
[03:12] <ulkesh> folorn: usually during the configuration phase of some update/new install of an app
[03:13] <tripelb> dear cfhowlett i have deleted it. when man was no help i googled ...
[03:13] <cfhowlett> tripelb, fingers crossed
[03:14] <folorn> ya it liked asked for my pw but then lagged and quit out during it
[03:14] <tripelb> cf now gparted still sees no partitions at all
[03:14] <fresno> waz going on room
[03:14] <cfhowlett> cfhowlett, not even your windows parts?
[03:14] <tripelb> cfhowlett:  now gparted still sees no partitions at all
[03:15] <fresno> windows 7 suxs
[03:15] <ulkesh> folorn: also look at this one:  root      4155  4037  0 20:26 pts/6    00:00:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 14 --configure -
[03:15] <TheLordOfTime> can anyone think of a reason that generating an 8192-bit SSH key would be practical?
[03:15] <folorn> well wtf
[03:15] <tripelb> cfhowlett: no means no. i refreshed devices.
[03:15] <folorn> yes that was one as  well it was giving a error before the install
[03:15] <RocketLauncher> It looks like i have NO FONTS. I can select them but it shows no preview and it doesnt work. Profont is the only font that works and that's probably because I manually installed it myself.. how do i get everything back
[03:16] <fresno> zorin is good liunxs
[03:16] <Drumroll> i want to make a live USB for my brand new PC build
[03:16] <ulkesh> TheLordOfTime: to require a computer a gazillion years of something to do by trying to brute-force crack it? :)
[03:16] <tripelb> cfhowlett: for a while i was stuck in grub rescue, then i reinstalled windows xp and afterwards got a choice at boot.. but nada from gparted
[03:17] <folorn> finally got it
[03:17] <Drumroll> checked it ahead of time for compatibility drivers-wise, but got rev 1.1 with new network card
[03:17] <ulkesh> folorn: sweet, which one?
[03:17] <folorn> thanks you guys ..any ideas how to repair
[03:17] <folorn> that dkg deal
[03:17] <Drumroll> My network card is not supported by the kernel, but there is a package.
[03:17] <Drumroll> Anyway to create the USB with that package installed. so that the netowkr will work??
[03:17] <tripelb> Fresno  xp
[03:18] <fresno> boot usb stick
[03:18] <folorn> ulkesh now it will update again lol woot thanks alot
[03:18] <TheLordOfTime> ulkesh:  heh
[03:18] <codepython7771> how do i test the speed of my network using a ssh login? Both incoming and outgoing? Is there a tool to do this?
[03:18] <ulkesh> folorn: oh sweet, i hope it stays happy!
[03:18] <fresno> to make boot usb stick
[03:18] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  what kind of package?
[03:19] <Drumroll> package: linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-precise-generic
[03:19] <tripelb> cfhowlett: i need to switch debices brb
[03:19] <fresno> brb
[03:19] <Drumroll> + dependencies
[03:19] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  and its in the repos?
[03:19] <fresno> rbr
[03:20] <zykotick9> codepython7771: test or monitor?  bmon is a terminal network monitor.  no idea on "test".
[03:20] <Drumroll> dr_willis: yes its in the repo
[03:20] <Drumroll> would install with apt-get install package_name
[03:20] <Drumroll> BUT without network, that's not an option
[03:20] <Drumroll> I would like to download updates as I install as well
[03:20] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  issues ive seen with live  usbs are that if you apt-get install kernel and drivers.. they may not get used by the live setupo
[03:20] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  a full install would let you install them however.
[03:21] <dr_willis> but a full instal on usb.. wont let you install to other systems
[03:21] <Drumroll> Ok so I should install first, then download the packages onto USB later and install them manually
[03:21] <Drumroll> i dont want to install ON usb, just from
[03:21] <Drumroll> I was hoping to install the drivers with the OS
[03:21] <cfhowlett> Drumroll, use the DVD iso, install THEN update
[03:21] <fresno> UNetbootin
[03:21] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  and that woul dbe a live usb.. and from what ive seen.. you dont  just install new kerneles/drivers on a live usb and expect them to work.
[03:22] <Drumroll> got it
[03:22] <fresno> ok
[03:22] <tripelb> Flannel I have partitions I do not want to overwrite
[03:22] <fresno> ok
[03:22] <Flannel> tripelb: So, you don't know which ones they are then? or what?
[03:22] <dr_willis> ive had issues in the past with live-usbs where you insstall for example a newer kernel. or nvidia drivers.. well they get stored in the persistant save file.. but the system cant boot from them
[03:22] <fresno> do u got a windowz t
[03:23] <fresno> do u got windos 7
[03:23] <cfhowlett> fresno, think he said he's got XP  :)
[03:23] <dr_willis> you may need to remaster your own live setup
[03:23] <fresno> do u got windos 7
[03:24] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  or do a full install to a 8gb usb. install what you need.. then clone the usb to the hd of the system you want to install on.   ;)
[03:24] <folorn> is there anyway to check and see if your wireless driver is up to date?
[03:25] <fresno> are u new to liunxs
[03:25] <cfhowlett> folorn, if it works?  Also, enable backports will capture, well, backports.
[03:25] <dr_willis> !backport
[03:26] <xorox90__> is there any default log(connection ip, time .. etc) on ubuntu? should I install additional program?
[03:26] <Drumroll> dr_willis : can I do a full install to USB using unetbootin? or different method?
[03:26] <dr_willis> !u | fresno
[03:26] <tripelb> cfhowlett: I have to mount something to update grub  it says. Since I have no idea I am going to try to fix grub. I am a bit in the dark. There's a web page roasted suggested..   http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html
[03:26] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  that wouldent be a full install..
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !grub|tripelb,
[03:27] <tripelb> That's where I was when we started
[03:27] <cfhowlett> tripelb, OK.  Take you time.  I had multiple grub headaches when I was triple booting ubuntu/windows/osx but it can be done.
[03:28] <Drumroll> dr_willis would I need ... two usbs, or a usb and a DVD?
[03:28] <tripelb> cfhowlett: been there no help. That's when roasted came in some hours ago. Took me a while to read the page and see what applied, sadly it didn't.
[03:28] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  yep.. one to install from to a usb...
[03:28] <fresno>   do u got windoes 7
[03:28] <dr_willis> fresno:  do you  have an actual ubuntu support question?
[03:29] <fresno> usb boot program
[03:29] <fresno> n
[03:29] <cfhowlett> tripelb, Assume that your windows and ubuntu are actually installed.  Just need to configure grub correctly.  I made the mistake of reinstalling multiple times.  Ultimately, it was  an easily fixed grub issue
[03:29] <fresno> windos 7 usb boot
[03:29] <tripelb> cfhowlett: roasted it is my fault. I said install and didn't realize that *I* had to make a swap partition. I was trying to replace an Ubuntu partition and if messed me up.
[03:29] <janderson91z> can someone tell me how to open the catalyst control center? i have the drivers installed and working, but i don't see the icons in 12.04 and when i type in the terminal "gksudo amdcccle" nothing happens
[03:30] <fresno> if u all need help hit me up
[03:31] <dr_willis> fresno:  im not sure anyone has  unstood anything you have said in the last half hour.
[03:31] <tripelb> cfhowlett: windows is installed. Ubuntu is not. In fact there is no longer a partition there. NT is installed. I used that to run a dell "check your hardware" way back over a week ago when I was given this old underpowered computer.
[03:32] <tripelb> I booted to that partition
[03:32] <cfhowlett> tripelb, old computer?  OK.  Try this.  Stop with the ubuntu and install lubuntu or xubuntu.  Both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.
[03:33] <folorn> is there a way to do that ?
[03:34] <fresno> zliunxs is good
[03:36] <dr_willis> folorn:  do what? ive missed somthing.
[03:36] <cfhowlett> tripelb, had a thought: if this machine has NT, then I assume it was configured as a server, which would explain why it defaulted to the LVM, i.e. server, partitioning scheme.  Start over, wipe all the buntu partitions, leave the windows partitions in place.
[03:37] <Drumroll> is a swap partition always necessary?
[03:37] <Drumroll> If I understand correctly, swap partition comes into use when ram is maxed out. What if you have 16GB ? Can you go without?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> Drumroll, only if you want to be able to suspend/hibernate
[03:38] <dr_willis> Drumroll:  i got no swap on my desktop box
[03:38] <dr_willis> 8gb ram.. just hope you dont run out of ram ;)
[03:38] <zykotick9> Drumroll: wap CAN be used when ram is maxed, but it's used more often to move non-used stuff out of physical memory.  with 16GB you can certainly get away without swap, but it will be slightly slower (see "/msg ubottu swap" for more details)
[03:39] <janderson91z> can someone help me get the amd catalyst control center to open?
[03:40] <Coded1> I'm running a FX-6100 @ 3.2GHz, Vertex 3 120GB SSD, 16GB PC1600 system on 13.04.  Why is software centre so slow?  I click to install one app and it greys out the window for about 40s and remains unresponsive for another 30s.  Clicking to install subsequent packages takes even longer.
[03:40] <dr_willis> try running it as  user janderson91z ? if theres no error messages..  not a lot we can really debug.. guess you coud run the debugger    gdb on it as it runs
[03:40] <tripelb> cfhowlett: I may have misspoken, not a server. Reading more on the web, I just did  >lsb-l /Dev/disk/by-label
[03:40] <tripelb> Noooo
[03:41] <dr_willis> Coded1:   13.04 in #uubntu+1    -- its in testing... so expect issues
[03:41] <dr_willis>   #ubuntu+1
[03:41] <janderson91z> run it as user as in just type in amdcccle in the terminal?
[03:41] <janderson91z> says command not found
[03:41] <janderson91z> is that not what it's called? amdcccle
[03:41] <dr_willis> janderson91z:  i  have no idea what its called
[03:41] <dr_willis>  try amd<tab>
[03:42] <cfhowlett> tripelb, noted.  still if this box was running NT, I'd say x/l/ubuntu are the way to go ...
[03:42] <Coded1> dr_willis: the release you run has no such problems?
[03:42] <dr_willis> Coded1:  never really noticed it being slow.. i tend to use the cli tools...
[03:44] <janderson91z> well
[03:44] <Coded1> same here but mostly because it's faster than the gui, which on a decently quick system that I'm using kinda sucks
[03:44] <janderson91z> in synaptic it says i have fglrx-amdcccle installed
[03:44] <janderson91z> so i tried running it with that name
[03:44] <janderson91z> and same story, nothing happened. sorry, i'm new to actually using the terminal lol
[03:44] <dr_willis> janderson91z:  check the  'properties' of tghe package. and see what path it has to what files
[03:45] <Coded1> janderson91z: the command is 'amdcccle'
[03:45] <janderson91z> it says command not found
[03:46] <janderson91z> here are the file locations
[03:46] <janderson91z> http://pastebin.com/Xma4Ldw9
[03:46] <Coded1> should be in /usr/share/ati/amdcccle
[03:46] <Coded1> or /usr/bin/amdcccle
[03:46] <proto> trying to use a bootable usb to install ubuntu on my laptop, reformatted the HDD and now it says 'Image failed to verify with *ACCESS DENIED*. Press any key to continue. and then powers off when I press a key
[03:47] <Drumroll> is there any reason not to use LVM ?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> proto, image?  iso image?  presumably you verified the iso integrity with md5sum??
[03:48] <proto> cfhowlett how do I do that?
[03:48] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|proto,
[03:49] <Coded1> proto: check the permissions of the image.  Is it owned by your user?
[03:49] <proto> cfhowlett, I can't even get to terminal
[03:50] <proto> Coded1, I'm not sure, I used Universal USB Installer, is there a way I can check that on my windows desktop?
[03:51] <janderson91z> well i found out it's located in /usr/share/ati and i am in that directory
[03:51] <proto> Looking through BIOS, does AHCI affect it? BIOS tells how it affects windows installations, but not linux
[03:51] <janderson91z> however when i type in amdcccle it says command not found, yet the file is clearly there when i type LS
[03:51] <tripelb> cfhowlett: I may have misspoken, not a server. And I clicked LVM by accident.  Reading more on the web, I just did  >lsb-l /Dev/disk/by-label  And my result shoed only 3 things now, not the 5 disk shows. They are, backup ..../sda4 which disk callsHPFS/NTFS/exFAT  And DellUtility..../sda1 Which fdisk calls the same.  And Ubuntu\x2012\x20LTS\x20i386   .../sr0 (sic)  which could be swap.  Meanwhile, XP is on /Dev/sda3 which fdisk callsW95 Ext'd
[03:52] <tripelb> cfhowlett: that was a bear to type
[03:52] <Coded1> proto: my bad if it's during the install then it's not your windows computer (not likely).  Try booting off the usb key and select verify image (or what ever the closest option is)
[03:52] <proto> cfhowlett, Coded1, I have a windows 8 laptop, and it looks like bios had some secure boot setting enabled, disabled that, rebooting now
[03:52] <cfhowlett> tripelb, no doubt.
[03:52] <tripelb> Random NOTE
[03:53] <cfhowlett> proto, proceed carefully.  secure boot weirdness ...
[03:53] <proto> cfhowlett, Coded1, secure boot was the problem, looking at desktop now.
[03:53] <proto> thanks for the help =D
[03:53] <Coded1> proto: ya that's likely it.  After the format it will try to install a GPT / MBR.  Secure boot will thwart that
[03:53] <cfhowlett> proto, smile son.  Have a beer.
[03:53] <proto> I'll have a glass of milk, going to bed now. =D
[03:54] <Coded1> better yet send some money to the "buy Coded1 beer foundation"
[03:54] <proto> rofl
[03:54] <Coded1> it goes to a good cause
[03:54] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Coded1
[03:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Hate to say it but...
[03:54] <Coded1> ouch
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Legalism: Gets me through the day!
[03:55] <Coded1> !ot|SonikkuAmerica
[03:55] <Coded1> ;)
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[03:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey Maxx__!
[03:56] <Maxx__> Ummm Hey.
[03:57] <folorn> anyone know how to repair broken packages from the terminal?
[03:57] <Coded1> janderson91z: can you run the file from the directory?
[03:57] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: Try [ sudo apt-get install -f ]
[03:58] <hexacode> anyone know the opposite of modprobe -r  ?   i need to remove a module but then ill need to put it back...anyone know how to? also, does modprobe -r only remove the module until next reboot, or permanently?
[03:58] <Maxx__> Is anyone having trouble logging into ubuntu?  I did updates today, and now cannot get past the login screen
[03:58] <penguinman> hexacode, just modprobe by itself
[03:59] <hexacode> thanks
[03:59] <janderson91z> coded: that's what i was doing
[04:00] <folorn> okay 1sec sonikkuamerica
[04:00] <tripelb> cfhowlett: now reading http://www.rodsbooks.com/missing-parts/
[04:00] <dartos> Can anyone tell me why I keep getting this IO error "INPUT OUTPUT ERROR ON READ /DEV/SDA" when I try to run sudo dpkg --configure -a. It is not a bad HDD I have run many MANY SMART tests and they all come back okay. Any ideas?
[04:00] <Coded1> janderson91z: what happens?
[04:02] <Coded1> dartos: can you pastebin your dmesg?
[04:02] <zykotick9> dartos: file system corruption possibly?  have you tried fscking it?
[04:02] <Coded1> dartos: is it a SSD?
[04:02] <dartos> I am not amazing with linux so bear with me. What is dmesg and no I don't know how to fschk :$
[04:02] <folorn> sonikkuamerica you wouldn't happen to know if theres a way to see if  a wireless driver is up to date?
[04:02] <dartos> no it's a HDD with a windows and ubuntu partition
[04:02] <janderson91z> coded1: actually i just went into that directory in nautiluls and all i see is files named 'amdcccle_cs.qm and such
[04:02] <dartos> the windows partition works fine
[04:03] <Coded1> dartos: run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit" paste the url here
[04:03] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: AFAIK drivers are updated via the package system.
[04:03] <dartos> oh dmesg is a command :D okydokey
[04:04] <janderson91z> Coded1: ok, i found the correct directory with the two legit amd catalyst control center icons. when i click on either (regular or administrative) it says Details: Failed to execute child process "amdcccle" (No such file or directory)
[04:05] <dartos> the dmesg was larger than 500 kbs -_-
[04:05] <coolspot> How do I make a WiFi hotspot in 12.04 using WPA, not WEP?
[04:05] <folorn> k
[04:05] <dartos> Coded1: it was too big for pastebing :(
[04:05] <tripelb> cfhowlett: that's too old sends me to fdisk, so I looked at man parted and going -l tells me --- can't have overlapping partitions. Oh I made the Ubuntu and the swap. I could have done it wrong. This is the first bit of meaning I see.
[04:06] <tripelb> Anyone here repartitoned with parted ? I seem to have overlapping partitions.
[04:06] <dartos> Coded1: it is basically this error over and over again http://pastebin.com/yKTNQQqT
[04:07] <SonikkuAmerica> tripelb: Why parted... as opposed to gparted?
[04:07] <tripelb> Is /xev/sr0 where grub goes?
[04:08] <dartos> zykotick9: I am runnin fsck on /dev/sda .. it's says superblock invalid
[04:09] <lauratika> how can i check the ink levels?
[04:09] <dartos> lauratika: thats more of a driver thing than an ubuntu thing. What printer do you have?
[04:09] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica: gparted sees no partitions. That's the problem. fdisk does but is not for large partitions. Hence parted.
[04:10] <Coded1> dartos: can you paste the output of 'smartctl --all /dev/sda'
[04:10] <Coded1> smartctl --all /dev/sda | pastebinit
[04:10] <dartos> Coded1: it's not installed... I can't use apt-get because of the whole dpkg thing
[04:10] <dartos> But I ran smart tests with the disk utility and they all came back OK
[04:11] <coolspot> Why is WPA hotspot/adhoc disabled in 12.04?
[04:11] <Coded1> dartos: are you running a laptop?
[04:11] <dartos> Coded1: nope
[04:12] <dartos> Coded1: I had fedora running on here before but I decided to swtich.. more stable updates
[04:12] <dartos> Coded1: or so I thought -_- I remember 11.04 worked fine
[04:12] <Coded1> dartos: not sure if this will help but in your bios try to enable AHCI and disable any power saving options
[04:12] <tripelb> Should fdisk be listing /dev/sd0 ? Because it is not.   <-- basic idea need to clarify
[04:13] <dartos> AH
[04:13] <dartos> all of the sudden it found windows 7??
[04:13] <Coded1> dartos: apparently there was a problem with some distros where the HDD was parked too quick
[04:13] <dartos> Coded1: parked?
[04:14] <Coded1> dartos: power saving features will tell the drive to stop spinning and bring the needle to rest (park).  If that happens when the kernel isn't expecting it you get ... errors ;)
[04:14] <dartos> Coded1: I'll check if that's on during reboot
[04:14] <dartos> But I don't think it is
[04:14] <kerf> test
[04:15] <kerf> screen -d
[04:15] <kerf> woops
[04:15] <dartos> Coded1: NOW I can install the nvidia drivers and have a whole other mess to clean up -_-
[04:15] <dartos> I'll be back after reboot
[04:15] <Coded1> dartos: good luck
[04:16] <tripelb> SonikkuAmerica:  I need to retire for the night. I thank you for your attention. NN
[04:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Okie-dokie.
[04:18] <Drumroll> How do I install these packages offline?
[04:18] <Drumroll> How do I resolve the dependencies I mean
[04:19] <Drumroll> For example: how do I resolve this message: "Dependency is not satisfiable: linux-headers-3.5.0.22"
[04:19] <Drumroll> sorry linux-headers-3.5.0-22
[04:19] <Drumroll> how do I fix that
[04:20] <Coded1> Drumroll: can you download that package on a different computer?
[04:20] <Drumroll> Coded1: yes
[04:21] <Coded1> Drumroll: download it and install it with "dpkg -i linux-headers-..."
[04:21] <dartos> Coded1: Okay so I don't have that option but apparently if I just want the error goes away for that process... idk
[04:21] <Drumroll> Coded1 thanks, I will hop on linux and brb
[04:22] <Coded1> Drumroll: actually wait
[04:22] <Drumroll> ok
[04:22] <dartos> Coded1: but do you, by chance, know how to install the nvidia drivers? I tried installing linux-source and linux-headers-generic then the nvidia-current-updates package but nothing seems to work
[04:22] <g0rs> Does anybody use gedit ? Can you please include line numbers feature in the editor in next version of gedit?
[04:22] <laurus> How do I connect a Nexus 7 running Ubuntu to my Ubuntu computer via USB cable?
[04:22] <Coded1> Drumroll: try installing the package with "apt-get install --simulate packagename"
[04:23] <Coded1> dartos: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:23] <dartos> Coded1: 12.10.
[04:23] <zykotick9> g0rs: gedit has line numbering already?
[04:23] <dartos> Coded1: I hearded after I installed it about the nvidia drivers problem -_-
[04:23] <dartos> Coded1: sorry for saying hearded... I feel stupid
[04:23] <Coded1> lol np
[04:24] <dartos> It has been a long day of trying to get drivers working
[04:24] <dartos> I love these IRCs though the people are so helpful :D case in point Coded1
[04:24] <Coded1> dartos: when you say it doesn't seem to work what do you mean?
[04:24] <Drumroll> I am trying to install my atheros 8161 network drivers, linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic_3.5.0-18.2_amd64.deb is what I found suggested via google, but couldn't find that package. Found linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic_3.5.0-22.28_amd64.deb | "apt-get install --simulate linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-3.5.0-18-generic_3.5.0-22.28_amd64.deb"??
[04:24] <dartos> Coded1: low resolution and unity no loading
[04:24] <Coded1> the "buy beer for coded1 foundation" is always open :)
[04:24] <dartos> Coded1: actually in my last try it didn't look like X loaded at all
[04:24] <Coded1> lol
[04:25] <dartos> lol
[04:25] <dartos> I have the "feed my hungry wallet" trust
[04:25] <Coded1> always a good thing to have
[04:25] <Drumroll> I will be right back
[04:25] <dartos> Coded1: if only problems == money
[04:26] <dartos> Coded1: but back to topic. Do you happen to know what to do? Does  that x-swat repo actually work or... idk
[04:26] <kunji> dartos: They do, they just need to be other people's problems :P
[04:26] <dartos> kunji: lol... thats true... but then money is spend solving your own problem
[04:27] <Coded1> sudo apt-get install --simulate build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-headers-`uname -r`
[04:27] <dartos> kunji: plus you always end up having more problems than others... but with a smaller apartment... makes no sense...
[04:27] <lauratika> dartos: sorry... didnt read your. is a epson nx130... it works fine is just to chek ink levels
[04:27] <dartos> Coded1: ill give it a shot
[04:28] <Tdog676> how do i download a c complier for ubuntu?
[04:28] <dartos> lauratika: check epson's site to see if they have drivers for linux
[04:28] <Coded1> dartos: sorry that was for someone else
[04:28] <dartos> Tdog676: sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:28] <dartos> Coded1: oh okat :(
[04:28] <Tdog676> tks dartos
[04:28] <dartos> Tdog676: np
[04:28] <kunji> dartos: I thought gcc was included?  just not g++?
[04:28] <dartos> Tdog676: I think that also gives you a debugger
[04:28] <dartos> kunji: It wasn't in fedora... idk if it is here
[04:29] <Coded1> dartos: try "sudo lsmod | grep nvidia"
[04:29] <dartos> Coded1: nothing
[04:29] <dartos> btw what is the difference between su and sudo?
[04:29] <Coded1> dartos: try "sudo lsmod | grep nouveau"
[04:30] <dartos> Coded1: yeah things... I know thats the driver i'm on now. It works fine... just not for steam :(
[04:30] <kunji> dartos: I have it, and I know I haven't installed it
[04:30] <dartos> kunji: have what?
[04:30] <kunji> dartos: gcc
[04:31] <Coded1> dartos: k, try "sudo apt-get remove --purge nouveau"
[04:31] <dartos> kunji: ah... I like gcc when I have an IDE to go with it
[04:31] <dartos> Coded1: WHY? that is the only thing keeping my video alive
[04:31] <Coded1> dartos: lol, that's also keeping your nvidia drivers from loading... try "apt-get install jockey-gtk"
[04:32] <kunji> dartos: I actually don't know of any C or C++ IDE that I like, I do like some syntax highlighting though, so I usually use gedit.
[04:32] <dartos> kunji: codeblocks is nice
[04:32] <dartos> kunji: small and functional
[04:32] <dartos> kunji: also someone started maintaining devc++ again... i never liked it though... then there is emacs :D
[04:32] <dartos> Coded1: no package nouveau
[04:33] <kunji> dartos: yuck, yuck, and yuck, to each his own though.
[04:33] <dartos> kunji: i have become dependent on auto-complete
[04:33] <Coded1> dartos: did you install 'jockey-gtk' ?
[04:33] <dartos> kunji: I havn't really used C++ for much besides Qt as of late. I have been loving haxe and monogame... I usually only make games though
[04:33] <dartos> Coded1: downloading
[04:34] <Coded1> k
[04:34] <dartos> Coded1: actually I tried jockey on another intall of 12.10 (this is the 3rd one) and it failed at the driver install
[04:34] <Techeavy> Has anyone installed ubuntu 13?
[04:34] <dartos> Coded1: and from what I have seen it failed on all 12.10...
[04:34] <laurus> How do I connect a Nexus 7 running Ubuntu to my Ubuntu computer via USB cable?
[04:34] <dartos> Coded1: but I'll try again if you want
[04:35] <zykotick9> !13.04 | Techeavy
[04:35] <kunji> Techeavy: Future releases are not supported here.  I would tell you the room where they are... but I forgot the name of it.
[04:35] <becom33> is there a way to link in android to keep a log of the installed applications in my machine and reinstall them automatically after I reinstall ubuntu ?
[04:35] <becom33> like in android *
[04:35] <dartos> Coded1: I installed it.. but when I run jockey-gtk it doesn't run... strange
[04:35] <kunji> Techeavy: Oh, nvm, zykotick9's got it covered :P
[04:36] <zykotick9> !clone | becom33
[04:36] <becom33> !automate
[04:37] <threex5> could someone explain to me how there could be broken repositories in synaptic that don't appear in sources.list?
[04:37] <gskellig> I was trying to fix my nvidia drivers, and now when I login I just get a desktop and a mouse. Unity/gnome are gone
[04:37] <gskellig> I can get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 though
[04:38] <dartos> Coded1: it doesn't look like jockey is going to work... should I install the additional drivers thing from the software center>
[04:38] <Coded1> dartos: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/10/to-do-list-after-new-installation-of.html
[04:38] <Techeavy> Ok thanks guys.
[04:38] <Coded1> dartos: ya they stopped using jockey apparently
[04:38] <Maxx__> I can't even get a desktop
[04:41] <fas> What would cause my server to not log me in as myself when loggin in via ssh?
[04:41] <dartos> Coded1: they have a built in jockey now 0.o
[04:41] <dartos> sir you are amazing
[04:41] <fas> After a reboot, I log in via ssh
[04:41] <gskellig> aha! i fixed it
[04:41] <gskellig> still have nvidia problem though
[04:41] <gskellig> can anyone help me with bumblebee?
[04:41] <dartos> Coded1: applying changes... lets see if this fixes it
[04:41] <fas> But I still need to 'su user' to my user to get my user
[04:43] <sulit> heloo
[04:43] <sulit> hello
[04:43] <sulit> everyone
[04:43] <dartos> I am going to try restarting lightdm... for teh lulz
[04:43] <sulit> o,yeah
[04:43] <dartos> 80% sure thats a bad idea
[04:43] <Maxx__> Hello
[04:43] <sulit> I want to use it
[04:45] <Coded1> dartos: your best off rebooting
[04:45] <Maxx__> I'm using 12.04 and cannot get past the login screen.
[04:45] <dartos> Coded1: yeah i see that
[04:45] <Coded1> proprietary drivers are fickle beasts
[04:45] <fas> Maxx__: what's it saying is wrong?
[04:45] <dartos> Maxx__: did you type in your password?
[04:45] <Maxx__> Yes, I did.
[04:45] <dartos> Maxx__: was it the right one?
[04:46] <dartos> Maxx__: you are not giving us much to work with here... sorry
[04:46] <dartos> Coded1: X didn't start
[04:46] <Maxx__> Yes.  When I tried typing the wrong one, it simply highlighted the box and allowed me to re-enter the password. When I enter the right one, it goes off the login screen for a second then comes right back
[04:47] <kunji> fas: Have you checked that all is as it should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?  Also you can run ssh more verbosely to figure out exactly what is happening.
[04:47] <dartos> Coded1: I need to manually startx... and it doesn't look like unity is starting either
[04:47] <fas> kunji: thanks for answering, I just looked at it and nothing seems different
[04:47] <dartos> -_- if conical keeps messing ubuntu up like this people will never switch
[04:48] <fas> kunji: when I log in via ssh, it asks for my username, then I give it and I have the pubkey auth. Then I get a terminal but it's not normal
[04:48] <fas> I use oh-my-zsh but I just get normal zsh
[04:48] <fas> Also, cd brings me to what seems like a guest acount's hime
[04:48] <Coded1> check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  look for device
[04:48] <fas> kunji: does that make sense?
[04:49] <Coded1> dartos: you should see a "Driver" listing under "Device"
[04:49] <fas> Then, I type 'su myuser' and I get oh-my-zsh back and cd brings me to the right directory
[04:49] <dartos> Coded1: okay ill check
[04:49] <dartos> Coded1: no xorg.conf
[04:50] <kunji> fas: Hmm, I think I know what you're saying, but it's not behavior I've ever seen before.  Maybe the BASH environment is wrong?
[04:50] <dartos> just xorg.conf.failsafe
[04:50] <dartos> and that says the driver is not vesa
[04:50] <dartos> now*
[04:50] <Coded1> dartos: cool, try "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:51] <Coded1> then "startx"
[04:51] <dartos> okay
[04:51] <ThePhoenix> Looking for a good media converter… Anyone have any suggestions?
[04:51] <ThePhoenix> I tried ConvertMe!, but… didn't install properly
[04:51] <fas> kunji: how can I check?
[04:51] <giggazilla> Anyone familiar with having a drive fail in raid 5 using intel ich9 and replacing.... it rebuilt both the array's, but my 2tb is showing as no data.
[04:51] <disco-eel> 'Evening
[04:51] <fas> I have my user set up to use zsh through /etc/passwd
[04:52] <dartos> Coded1: random reboot?
[04:52] <Coded1> ThePhoenix: check out "gstreamer gui" on google
[04:52] <kunji> ThePhoenix: ffmpeg, vlc, mplayer, though the later two may use ffmpeg underneath, not sure.  ffmpeg will take some learning to use correctly, but it's by far the most powerful media converter I've seen.
[04:52] <giggazilla> I was able to boot into initramfs and run some dmraid commands to see the mappers still listed under /dev
[04:52] <ThePhoenix> Didn't know vlc did converting as well as playing
[04:52] <Coded1> dartos: what command made it reboot?
[04:52] <giggazilla> Plus blkid returns the path to all the partitions I had defined previously
[04:52] <ThePhoenix> will check out those various suggestions, thanks
[04:53] <dartos> Coded1: it just kinda did... but it was a normal reboot so...
[04:53] <Coded1> dartos: see what happens when it comes back up
[04:53] <kunji> fas: I'm not sure, I don't mess with mine, sorry I couldn't be more help.  I would recommend running the ssh daemon with -v or whatever it is for verbose, maybe -vvv?  Then it will give you a lot more output and there may be some indication in all of that of what is happening.
[04:53] <dartos> Coded1: x didn't start by itself
[04:53] <dartos> I started X and still see no unity
[04:54] <fas> kunji: I'm accessing it via putty
[04:54] <dartos> Coded1: nvidia's xorg is still there
[04:54] <fas> is that something I set on the server side?
[04:54] <disco-eel> did you look at the lightdm logfile yet?
[04:54] <dartos> Coded1: oh yay system problem detected -_-
[04:54] <disco-eel> theres always juicy stuff in there
[04:55] <dartos> I am looking at the details... and something with Xorg...
[04:55] <Maxx__> Gotta love those system problem detected(s)
[04:55] <dartos> Maxx__: ikr
[04:55] <disco-eel> Its samba giving me mine
[04:55] <Coded1> dartos: pastebin
[04:55] <giggazilla> Anyone?
[04:55] <dartos> Coded1: idk if I can...
[04:55] <Coded1> dartos: which nvidia card do you have?
[04:56] <disco-eel> I havent checked why casue im lazy
[04:56] <dartos> Coded1: GTX 560Ti
[04:56] <dartos> Coded1: crysis 2 edition ;)
[04:56] <kunji> fas: That's fine, yeah, you would set it on the server side.  I don't want to accidentally lock you out of your server, but i think something like sudo service ssh stop && sudo service ssh start -v  will run both commands and then you can just connect again, you should confirm that with someone else before trying it though.  I'm not sure about the -v when calling it through upstart.
[04:57] <Coded1> dartos: do you see anything with "EE" in the error log?
[04:57] <dartos> Was there ever an ubuntu version Linaro?
[04:57] <fas> thanks for your help
[04:57] <fas> I'll look into that
[04:57] <fas> I have physical access if anything goes haywire anyways
[04:57] <dartos> Coded1: where would I look?
[04:58] <dartos> Coded1: it is like a whole system log
[04:58] <disco-eel> Why do I hear sometimes that modprobe.conf is depreciated? The man page doesn't seem to say so
[04:58] <dartos> Coded1: the actual error was
[04:58] <Maxx__> Well. I guess I will tackle my problem anew tomorrow.  Thanks everyone.
[04:58] <fas> kunji: odd. I didn't get kicked out of my connection
[04:59] <fas> is it ssh or ssh server? or openssh?
[04:59] <disco-eel> where should I be configuring my modules?
[04:59] <fas> It told me it stopped and restarted
[04:59] <Coded1> dartos: can you try "dmesg | pastebinit && cat /etc/var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit"?
[04:59] <dartos> Coded1: It's too big
[04:59] <dartos> wait I have an idea... let me try something
[05:01] <kunji> fas: Actually it should be that smooth if all is well.  ssh-server should be the package for openssh I think.  I'm not sure about the -v when running it as a daemon though, using the debug modes is probably better, this should help: http://fixunix.com/mandrake/122505-run-sshd-debugging-mode.html
[05:03] <giggazilla> Ok, well I guess the first step is to boot from the ubuntu livecd
[05:03] <dartos> Coded1: I don't thiknk trying the experimental ones is a good idea...
[05:04] <dartos> btw does anyone know if you can get an ubuntu thinkpad in the USA?
[05:05] <disco-eel> sure, why not?
[05:05] <fas> kunji: it appears it's logging me in as root
[05:05] <dartos> disco-eel: no I mean buy one with ubuntu already on it
[05:05] <disco-eel> right
[05:06] <Coded1> I've personally used the 310 drivers and they work pretty good, It may be a good idea however to try one of the other drivers first and switch
[05:06] <disco-eel> hmm
[05:06] <fas> kunji: which is odd since that's disallowed in my confg
[05:06] <dartos> disco-eel: they sell those in the UK but I don't see any on their US site
[05:06] <dartos> Coded1: okay
[05:06] <disco-eel> best to call I say
[05:06] <dartos> Coded1: trying the nvidia-current instead of nvidia-current-updates
[05:06] <kunji> fas: That's not good at all, I thought that wasn't allowed in the default sshd_config, ... that could be really bad then.
[05:06] <dartos> disco-eel: probably... but that means interactions with... humans....
[05:06] <chriys> my server won't work even in local. The server is running and error.log shows this caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[05:06] <chriys> .[00:06:20] <chriys> and also child process 24148 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM
[05:06] <disco-eel> you will get handed off a bunch but if your persistent Id think
[05:07]  * dartos makes a face of disgust 
[05:07] <disco-eel> yeah I understand
[05:07] <coolspot> So no solution to make a WiFi hotspot with WPA in 12.04?
[05:07] <chriys> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1661802/apache-server-keeps-crashing-caught-sigterm-shutting-downmy server won't work even in local. The server is running and error.log shows this caught SIGTERM, shutting down  and also child process 24148 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM*
[05:07] <kunji> coolspot: That is highly dependent on your hardware as far as I know
[05:08] <Coded1> dartos: what happened?
[05:08] <coolspot> kunji: Worked in previous releases, so hardware is not at fault.
[05:08] <dartos> Coded1: same thing
[05:08] <kunji> coolspot: It should work then, maybe you're using a different driver or something?
[05:08] <dartos> Coded1: going to try the 310 i guess...
[05:08] <chriys> :x sorry guys little mistake here is the message: my server won't work even in local. The server is running and error.log shows this caught SIGTERM, shutting down  and also child process 24148 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM
[05:09] <trkmstrwggy> whats up guys
[05:09] <fas> kunji, https://gist.github.com/4680390
[05:09] <coolspot> kunji: No, just vanilla. WPA and related are greyed out for whatever reason, same in other distros based on 12.04.
[05:09] <dartos> Coded1: they need to really work on linux GPU support....
[05:09] <dartos> Coded1: do you have the default kernal?
[05:09] <disco-eel> I was never a fan of the phone deal until this strange day..I had to call Micro**t for my w box
[05:09] <kunji> coolspot: Where are you looking to see this WPA option?
[05:09] <RigidWig> anyone know what this is all about: http://pastebin.com/zxREG1Xa ??
[05:10] <disco-eel> I was shocked...
[05:10] <drumroll> I need help installing a package containing network drivers on my computer that has no internet
[05:10] <drumroll> I'm not having much luck with google
[05:11] <disco-eel> usb key?
[05:11] <drumroll> do I need apt-offline installed on the destination pc?
[05:11] <drumroll> I do have a USB key
[05:11] <disco-eel> did you find your chipset yet?
[05:11] <drumroll> just not sure how to get packages onto it, including dependencies, and then install them on dest. pc
[05:11] <drumroll> My chipset is atheros 8161
[05:11] <Coded1> dartos: I'm running 13.04 I have 3.8.0-2-generic
[05:11] <fas> kunji, the end of that file is from today
[05:11] <drumroll> I found a package with the driver but it said "dependency is not satisfiable"
[05:12] <dartos> Coded1: is 13.04 more stable then 12.10... I have had NOTHING but problems with 12.10... these damn drivers
[05:12] <drumroll> "dependency is not satisfiable: linux-image-3.5.0-18-generic
[05:12] <coolspot> kunji: "Create New Wireless Network", and "nm-connection-editor" and wherever. Do you have such hardware and if so could you see if they are greyed out for you too?
[05:12] <disco-eel> hmm
[05:12] <dartos> I am thinking of just reinstaling 12.04...
[05:12] <drumroll> would 13.04 have the drivers I need?
[05:13] <drumroll> I didn't realize there was a 13.04 already
[05:13] <Coded1> dartos: not a chance buddy.  I'm having stuff crash all day long.  Luckily I have an SSD :)  It makes the error reporting much faster
[05:13] <dartos> Coded1: ug...
[05:13] <Coded1> just upgrading crashes things
[05:13] <fas> kunji: specifically line 2000+
[05:13] <Coded1> dartos: sometimes it makes it easier installing from scratch and following the step by steps right from the start
[05:13] <dartos> Coded1: if only i could curse in this channel.... I am really mad right now... it didn;t work... again
[05:14] <dartos> Coded1: that would be litterally the 12 time I did that
[05:14] <dartos> today....
[05:14] <adamshumpisxxx> Is anyone available to help me with an Xbox 360 wired controller issue?
[05:14] <disco-eel> was it alx?
[05:14] <dartos> Coded1: wait... WAIT
[05:15] <kunji> coolspot: I think my card is a different one, just to be clear you mean in the Security dropdown menu?  WPA & WPA2 Personal and WPA & WPA2 Enterprise are both options for me.
[05:15] <freestylesno> im trying to figure out what i need to do to dual boot on a laptop that came with win8
[05:15] <Coded1> drumroll: try "sudo apt-get install --simulate build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-headers-`uname -r`" and download all the packages separately
[05:16] <dartos> Coded1: IT SEEMS to be working... unity started up and the 310 driver is still selected in software sources
[05:16] <dartos> I am going to run a benchmark to check
[05:16] <coolspot> kunji: Yes, "Wireless Security", as you can see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171914/sharing-wireless-connection-with-other-pcs-and-phones
[05:16] <Coded1> drumroll: http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller
[05:16] <drumroll> Coded1 couldn't make those instructions work
[05:16] <bravis> why is Gstreamer not in ubuntu?
[05:17] <adamshumpisxxx> If anyone can weigh in on this issue I would appreciate it:
[05:17] <adamshumpisxxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2110717
[05:17] <juniour> hi
[05:17] <Coded1>  drumroll; what happens?
[05:17] <coolspot> kunji: And others are having the same issue with different hardware, and I'm also testing on two different machines. http://askubuntu.com/questions/142379/unable-to-use-wpa-security-when-using-laptop-as-hotspot-with-an-intel-3945abg
[05:17] <drumroll> the irony of instructions to download a network driver...
[05:17] <dartos> Coded1: if this is working... I will buy you a beer :D
[05:17] <disco-eel> im seeing something that says you ought to blacklist the atl1c mod too
[05:18] <disco-eel> drumroll check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/105607/how-do-i-get-an-atheros-ar8131-ethernet-card-working
[05:18] <Coded1> dartos: your success is a gift on its own buddy
[05:18] <disco-eel> did you already look at that?
[05:18] <kunji> coolspot: Hmm, those aren't grayed out for me.  That's not how I usually create a hotspot though myself, I usually use a much more manual method.  I never had much success with those actually working through the GUI, despite that all the options are available.
[05:18] <dartos> Coded1: well lets see i didn't run the benchmark yet...
[05:18] <coolspot> kunji: You're on 12.04, right? Not 12.10.
[05:20] <kunji> fas: It looks like it changes your identity after checking the blacklist?  Check if you're on the blacklist, also do confirm that sshd_config has root login disabled, just so that is absolutely for sure.
[05:20] <Coded1> dartos: well unity loading is a good sign
[05:20] <juniour> coolspt ubuntu provide wep for hotspot
[05:20] <TheLordOfTime> anyone know of anything like landscape, but absolutely free, so i can manage an entire net of systems?
[05:20] <dartos> that it is
[05:20] <kunji> coolspot: It is working on a 12.04 machine and two 12.10 machines here.
[05:20] <fas> kunji: it has it disabled
[05:20] <coolspot> juniour: Yes, WEP is available but not WPA* which used to be available.
[05:21] <drumroll> it's not that those instructions don't work
[05:21] <kunji> TheLordOfTime: Umm, I don't know what landscape does, but Nagios is a good way to do some server monitoring.
[05:21] <drumroll> it's just that the destination pc does not have internet
[05:21] <drumroll> I'm downloading network driver packages
[05:21] <giggazilla> How can you tell the live cd to stop trying to locate harddisks and just load the live cd?
[05:21] <coolspot> kunji: Just to make sure, you're trying hotspot/adhoc and not regular connection?
[05:21] <juniour> coolspot i never seen wpa
[05:21] <TheLordOfTime> kunji:  i'm aware of nagios for montioring, but i need remote management as well... perhaps i should just ask in -server :/
[05:21] <fas> kunji: also, I don't have anything blacklisted.
[05:21] <juniour> coolspot when i turned hotspot its wep ony
[05:21] <drumroll> So I need to get the packages from "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.4-precise-generic
[05:22] <drumroll> and put them via usb to another pc
[05:22] <giggazilla> Is there a certain key I can press or something?
[05:22] <coolspot> juniour: Yes, older versions had it available, which is what I want. Which is why I'm trying to figure out why it's disabled and how to enable it again.
[05:22] <disco-eel> yeah
[05:23] <dartos> Coded1: the haven benchmark is beautiful
[05:23] <Coded1> dartos: congrats
[05:23] <dartos> Coded1: especially at 60 FPS
[05:23] <disco-eel> that page was just one of the things that came up
[05:23] <drumroll> where does apt-get install --download-only put the packages?
[05:23] <adamshumpisxxx> Does anyone know how to configure the Xbox 360 controller driver dead zone?
[05:23] <dartos> Coded1: sir... I can't thank you enough
[05:23] <Coded1> dartos: no problems buddy have at er
[05:24] <juniour> ohhh
[05:24] <dartos> Coded1: ...just...just...thank so much
[05:24] <kunji> coolspot: Ah, I see what you mean now, I still have WPA & WPA2 Personal though, The Enterprise one is grayed out though, as is LEAP and Dynamic WEP.  Anyway, is it actually important that this be reproduce on my system?  Especially considering that we don't have the same hardware...
[05:24]  * dartos bursts into tears
[05:24] <dr_willis> drumroll:  /var/cache/apt/ perhaps - or whever the resst of the .deb gets cached at
[05:24] <Coded1> lol now don't get too sentimental I'm gonna cry too
[05:25] <dartos> lol
[05:25] <dartos> Coded1: you don't understand what this means
[05:25] <juniour> kunji i dont think its hardware issue
[05:25] <coolspot> kunji: Well, others are having the same issue with hardware I don't have. What WiFi cards do you have? And you don't have to enable any hotspot, just check if the things are greyed out or not, which they are for me and others.
[05:25] <Dr_Physicist> Can I install Ubuntu 12.10 QQ by side of two others OS and later change the size of them with, for example: Gparted?
[05:25] <dartos> I can move all my game development to linux now :D no more windows :D
[05:25] <giggazilla> Anyone?
[05:26] <disco-eel> does anyone understand what I mean about the modules?
[05:26] <juniour> kunji the same hard ware provide wep.wpa * in windows os but in ubuntu it provides wep ony
[05:26] <Coded1> dartos: you're not gonna propose are you, I don't think I can handle that
[05:26] <Coded1> lol
[05:26] <dr_willis> giggazilla:  in not sure we are clear on the question.
[05:26] <juniour> so  i think its not the hard ware issue
[05:26] <disco-eel> oh ok
[05:26] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis, Can I install Ubuntu 12.10 QQ by side of two others OS and later change the size of them with, for example: Gparted?
[05:27] <dr_willis> Dr_Physicist:  yes
[05:27] <dartos> Coded1: lol no... btw how would I know if upgrading to the next release of ubuntu would break this
[05:27] <dartos> Coded1: should I just wait and look up forums and stuff?
[05:27] <disco-eel> well Im just a bit confused on where I should pass options for my modules
[05:27] <kunji> coolspot: Right I did check, my card is an Atheros AR9300.  You could try using hostapd for this, it's what I usually use for this kind of thing, this could help getting started with it: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-setting-wireless-access-point/
[05:27] <disco-eel> modprobe.conf?
[05:28] <Coded1> dartos: wait it out buddy, next release they want to start with Wayland
[05:28] <Coded1> I can smell the borked boxen already
[05:28] <dartos> Coded1: wayland?
[05:28] <disco-eel> ls /etc/modprobe.d/
[05:28] <disco-eel> oops
[05:28] <kunji> Coded1: Wayland... well, we'll see how that actually goes over.
[05:28] <Coded1> dartos: it's a sweet idea, check it out on youtube
[05:29] <Coded1> think of a 3D game where all the surfaces are your desktop
[05:29] <kunji> Coded1: Did they ever find a way to reincorporate network transparency?
[05:29] <adamshumpisxxx> Does anyone know how to configure the Xbox 360 controller driver dead zone?
[05:29] <drumroll> dr_willis thank you that is where the packages downloaded
[05:29] <Coded1> kunji: network transparency?
[05:30] <dartos> Coded1: it looks like compiz...
[05:30] <coolspot> kunji: I also have "AR9300", which is a generic name for these models, the specific card I have is AR9382, you might have the same or AR9380, I think. So you're not using any other software to have WPA available as an option for hotspot?
[05:30] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis: Thank you for the answer. Just one more thing. Does not any kind of problem?
[05:31] <dr_willis> Dr_Physicist:  theres alwyas potential for problems..
[05:31] <fas> kunji: I think I figured it out
[05:31] <kunji> Coded1: Well, that's just the thing right, X is actually a server and can send to clients, it lets us do neat things like using the -X option with ssh.  Also it lets you do things like run many end terminals on the same server, whatever they're calling that these days.
[05:32] <kunji> fas: What did you find?  I've been looking at the log, but I haven't figured anything out yet T.T
[05:32] <Coded1> kunji: ahh you mean wayland remote "X" sessions
[05:32] <giggazilla> dr_willis: the live cd hangs and when I esc out of the graphic it keeps trying to discover /dev/sda...b... etc
[05:32] <fas> kunji: I installed xwindows the other day, when logging in via ssh and if I do 'cd' and then 'ls' I get a .desktop file and a README
[05:32] <kunji> Coded1: So they did end up doing it?
[05:32] <Coded1> I think that's going to turn into a VNC kinda thing
[05:33] <chriys> it'S alright i found solution -_-'
[05:33] <chriys> ethernet cable was unplugged
[05:33] <fas> the README says something like, this directory has been unmounted for your safety, use the gui to click the .desktop file or type in *some command*
[05:33] <Coded1> kunji: Wayland basically replaces X
[05:34] <chriys> does somebody can test this website and tell me if it works please http://regroupementjeunesseenaction.com/
[05:34] <chriys> i'm verifying if it works outside of my local network
[05:34] <adamshumpisxxx> That website does not work.
[05:34] <kunji> Coded1: I know, but those functions of X were originally planned to be scrapped in wayland because of difficulties doing it with Wayland's very different architecture.  It's been some time since I looked at the project though, they may have changed their minds.
[05:34] <Coded1> kunji: you could always run X as headless and still have remotes
[05:35] <disco-eel> so for instance, if I want to add support for more loop devices, I set "loop options loop max_loop=64"
[05:35] <threex5> is there a particular version of ubuntu that works better in gnome fallback mode? I'm running 12.10 and it's a little buggy
[05:35] <kunji> Coded1: You mean side by side with wayland?  Hmm, we'll have to see if they play nice, but I would expect some contention between them.
[05:36] <threex5> i would be willing to downgrade if it was worth it.
[05:36] <kunji> threex5: You mean using gnome-panel?
[05:36] <threex5> correct
[05:36] <dr_willis> threex5:  gnome-fallback mode is scheduled for eventual  removal.. but it may have gotten a stay of execution for a few more releases
[05:36] <fas> kunji: does that infor help?
[05:37] <Coded1> kunji: I doubt there will be many issues, they are so different now that they probably won't even notice eachother
[05:37] <cyberman_> ls
[05:37] <giggazilla> dr_willis:  I'm wondering if it's messing up with the chipset raid array I have
[05:37] <dr_willis> threex5:  if you like the old skool type desktop. you may want to check out Lubuntu
[05:37] <threex5> dr_willis, I know. this is causing me anxiety.
[05:37] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis: Yes. Where can I find a tutorial to up the partitions for start of installation?
[05:37] <dr_willis> threex5:  gnome2 is dead... time to move on
[05:37] <threex5> I might try lubuntu again. I really, really like gnome 2 though
[05:37] <adamshumpisxxx> That website does not work.
[05:37] <threex5> no!
[05:37] <dr_willis> gnome2 has had issues for ages....  people just overlooked them
[05:38] <chriys> adamshumpisxxx seriously ? this is weird
[05:38] <dr_willis> Dr_Physicist:  i just use a gparted live cd normally
[05:38] <threex5> I don't understand why I have to move on from software that works exactly the way I like it, that I've already mastered
[05:38] <adamshumpisxxx> Yes. Seriously.
[05:38] <kunji> fas: Hmm, it doesn't help me, someone else probably would know more than I do though.
[05:38] <threex5> So frustrating. Mate is buggy too
[05:38] <adamshumpisxxx> I would say if you love GNOME2 then use MATE.
[05:38] <dr_willis> threex5:  the gnome devs gave many reasons for moveing  away from gnome2
[05:38] <chriys> can you try to add the www admshumpisxxx
[05:38] <chriys> what is mate ?
[05:38] <coolspot> kunji: Could you provide a quick screenshot of the available WPA options regarding hotspot/adhoc that you see?
[05:39] <threex5> mate is a fork of gnome 2
[05:39] <adamshumpisxxx> But the big problem I have with it is the "Shut Down..." option under System is missing for me.
[05:39]  * dr_willis finds the desktop hes using really dosent matter much....
[05:39] <adamshumpisxxx> The website does not work even with the "www" in front of it.
[05:40] <Edve> adamshumpisxxx: try to reinstall the GUI
[05:40] <adamshumpisxxx> I already did. I even reinstalled the DM.
[05:40] <giggazilla> dr_willis:  I will try the live cd without dmraid enabled and see what happens.
[05:40] <adamshumpisxxx> Nothing works.
[05:40] <Coded1> dartos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FjuPn7MXMs
[05:40] <Edve> hmm
[05:40] <dr_willis> giggazilla:   i dont use raid. so no idea how it affects thingss
[05:40] <adamshumpisxxx> If you want to check out my issue I can send you my current thread link in UBuntu Forums.
[05:40] <Edve> how you shut down the computer since ?
[05:41] <Dr_Physicist> dr_willis: Thank you.
[05:41] <Edve> Yeah send it up though
[05:41] <adamshumpisxxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2109915
[05:41] <adamshumpisxxx> I use "sudo shotdown -P now".
[05:41] <adamshumpisxxx> Or "sudo reboot".
[05:41] <chriys> i'm lost my webserver won't work -_-
[05:42] <kunji> coolspot: My memory is failing me, what site is it for posting images again?
[05:43] <chriys> i can access to my webserver from local but not from outside somebody has a solution ?
[05:43] <coolspot> kunji: ompldr.org for example
[05:43] <adamshumpisxxx> Check your DNS setup.
[05:43] <dr_willis> chriys:  soiunds like router is not port forwarding
[05:43] <adamshumpisxxx> And make sure your router allows a connection from the outside.
[05:44] <chriys> i can even access it using mydomain.com
[05:44] <adamshumpisxxx> Try SSHing from your cell phone.
[05:44] <kunji> coolspot: http://ompldr.org/vaGFpOQ/Screenshot%20from%202013-01-31%2000:40:28.png
[05:44] <chriys> adamshumpisxxx how to SSHing ?
[05:44] <adamshumpisxxx> You don't know how to SSH?
[05:44] <adamshumpisxxx> Uh oh...
[05:44] <Edve> hmm
[05:44] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:45] <adamshumpisxxx> What do you think Edve?
[05:45] <drumroll> so im trying to run a script
[05:45] <Edve> hmm you did use which repo ?
[05:45] <chriys> i know it but never did from a cellphone. I'm using iphone 3g
[05:45] <coolspot> kunji: And in the "Wireless" tab "Mode" is set to"Ad-hoc" instead of "Infrastructure"?
[05:45] <drumroll> "./driver-select alx" -> PERMISSION DENIED
[05:45] <drumroll> "sudo ./driver-select alx" -> command not found
[05:45] <adamshumpisxxx> Check your PM Edve.
[05:45] <drumroll> help?
[05:45] <kunji> coolspot: Yeah, with infrastructure nothing is grayed out.
[05:46] <jbud> drumroll: sudo su
[05:46] <dr_willis> dont use sudo su.....
[05:46] <dr_willis> sudo -s  or sudo -i will work
[05:46] <coolspot> kunji: Hmm, ok. Thanks. How did you get it available? You must've done something..
[05:47] <dr_willis> drumroll:  get a root shell  via 'sudo -i' and try the script again
[05:47] <kunji> coolspot: I wouldn't worry about my system being different though, it's not a fresh install, it's using hostapd and various other things, something might have been installed as a dependency.. who know, I really wouldn't sweat it.  I really couldn't tell you how, this is the first time I looked at it on this system, because as I said, I usually do that with hostapd and dnsmasq and iptables.. in the terminal.
[05:48] <drumroll> dr_willis: still getting permission denied
[05:48] <coolspot> kunji: And that's from the 12.04 system?
[05:48] <kunji> coolspot: yeah
[05:48] <dr_willis> drumroll:  it is an executable scrit/file?
[05:48] <drumroll> yes
[05:48] <coolspot> kunji: Ok, I'll have to dig deeper then. Thanks.
[05:48] <drumroll> -bash: ./scripts/driver-select: Permissoin denied
[05:49] <drumroll> I've got a # prompt
[05:49] <kunji> coolspot: No problem, but if you know that it works in 12.10, upgrading might be the way to go, or there are ways to install the newer packages on 12.04.
[05:50] <dr_willis> drumroll:  what does ls -l say about the ./scriptss/driver-select file       what does the 'file' command say abvout it also
[05:51] <adamshumpisxxx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2110717
[05:52] <drumroll> -rw-r--r-- 1 aaron aaron 11736 jul 3 2012 ./scripts/driver-select
[05:52] <coolspot> kunji: Well, I'm not looking to use Ubuntu actually, I'm just checking on the issue as it appears on distros based on Ubuntu. I will soon use Trisquel 6.0 (100% fully free), which is 12.04, and LTS obviously, so.. yeah. I'll have to try newer packages and hostapd and so on. :/
[05:52] <drumroll> ./scripts/driver-select: a /usr/bin/env bash script, ASCII text executable
[05:54] <drumroll> dr_willis got thanks
[05:54] <drumroll> chmod 777
[05:54] <kunji> coolspot: Actually, the kernel handles this, no?  This might be the machine I installed the newer kernel on, in which case that might be precisely the difference that is important between 12.04 and 12.10.  I see this bug report here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=818214  That is for the 3.3 kernel, it might have been broken in 3.2 as well (I think 12.04 uses 3.2 by default).  Maybe it's fixed in the 3.5 kernel (I think what 12
[05:54] <drumroll> how do I chmod every file in a folder
[05:54] <dr_willis> drumroll:  ;) guess it wasent executable eh...
[05:54] <drumroll> nope it wasn't
[05:55] <drumroll> I thought I chmod'd it already, but I did something wrong
[05:55] <dr_willis> drumroll:  best to not go wild with chmod
[05:55] <coolspot> kunji: You got cut off at "(I think what 12".
[05:55] <drumroll> i haven't gotten a handle of chmod yet
[05:55] <drumroll> I only know 777
[05:55] <dr_willis> !permissions
[05:55] <drumroll> makes things work
[05:55] <dr_willis> drumroll:  and forgetg about 777 you RARELY ever want to use 777
[05:55] <kunji> coolspot: at the end?  Maybe it's fixed in the 3.5 kernel (I think what 12.10 is using).
[05:55] <coolspot> kunji: And yes, I was looking at that bug report earlier..
[05:56] <drumroll> 766?
[05:56] <dr_willis> !permissions | drumroll
[05:56] <dr_willis> learn about them ;)
[05:56] <kunji> coolspot: If that is what the problem is, then the packages aren't going to make a difference and messing with them will just be a waste of time.
[05:57] <jbud> drumroll: u means user, a means anyone, r means owner/root ;; r means read, w means write, x means execute ;; chmod ua+rw file    means user and anyone has read and write abilities for file
[05:57] <coolspot> kunji: What version of Linux did you install? It's not so nice for this to appear in the LTS release..
[05:59] <kunji> coolspot: I did install 12.04, but I'm not using that kernel anymore.  That kernel did not play nice with any of my wireless devices, they would hang and broadcast, effectively jamming the entire wireless band.  It was not pleasant.
[06:00] <drumroll> make worked woo
[06:00] <coolspot> kunji: So, what version of Linux did you install on that 12.04 machine to get WPA available?
[06:01] <fas> Anyone know how to uninstall x? Or at least stop it from logging me into X when logging in via ssh?
[06:01] <dr_willis> !text | fas
[06:01] <kunji> coolspot: I'm using 3.5.0-22 at the moment, the same as what 12.10 is using, the only reason I did that instead of just upgrading to 12.10 was as a learning experience really.
[06:01] <fas> dr_willis: that's not what I want
[06:01] <dr_willis> i dont see how  logging in via ssh.. logs you into X
[06:01] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, is there a way to set a more specific location for gnome weather?
[06:02] <drumroll_itworke> WOO IM ONLINE
[06:02] <dr_willis> fas:  the you should give more details..
[06:02] <fas> dr_willis: after installing x I get problems logging in via ssh
[06:02] <dr_willis> fas:  problems  such as ?
[06:02] <fas> dr_willis: It logs me in as my user but typing 'cd' doesn't bring me to my home
[06:02] <drumroll_itworke> thanks dr_willis jbud Coded1
[06:02] <coolspot> kunji: Ah, ok. So 12.04 is borked with regards to this. Sad thing on LTS. Well, cheers for the help.
[06:02] <kunji> dr_willis: His .bashrc maybe?  I could be completely off track though
[06:02] <drumroll_itworke> brand new build complete
[06:02] <fas> I then have to do 'su myuser' and then 'cd' to get to my home
[06:03] <Coded1> drumroll_itworke: congrats buddy
[06:03] <giggazilla> Is there a way to limit dmesg output from the initramfs prompt?  less and more aren't available
[06:03] <drumrolll> thanks Coded1
[06:03] <kunji> coolspot: anytime, yeah, I've actually found 12.10 to work out much better for me in pretty much every regard.
[06:03] <drumrolll> it was a pain
[06:03] <fas> dr_willis: after logging in via ssh I don't get my home, I get a .desktop file and a README, which both look like they pertain to X
[06:03] <drumrolll> I buckled and bought windows for this build too, just for games
[06:03] <drumrolll> windows won't even install
[06:03] <drumrolll> Linux: 1 Windows: 0
[06:03] <fas> dr_willis: does that make sense?
[06:04] <dr_willis> fas  youa re using an encrypted home.. so it makes sence...
[06:04] <dr_willis> its not unencrypting the home when you sssh in
[06:04] <fas> How do I get it to do that when sshing in?
[06:04] <dr_willis> and what is IN the readme?
[06:04] <dr_willis> I dont use encrypted home.. so no idea...
[06:04] <seeqwell> uptime tells me I have 4 users in my system and I only have one terminal open which one is for me, one is auto assigned to root.  What are the other two and how to I kill the pid please?
[06:04] <fas> It wasn't like this prior to a recent reboot
[06:05] <dr_willis> you may want to check on askubuntu.com for ssh and encrypted home issues
[06:05] <coolspot> kunji: I was looking to use Trisquel 6.0 (Ubuntu 12.04) as a server, also doing this hotspot, so I'd want WPA obviously. But doesn't seem to be the solution. Unless I just use a router on the ethernet port and let that do the wireless bit, but I'd prefer not to do that.
[06:06] <fas> dr_willis: I think I figured it out
[06:06] <fas> thanks for your help
[06:07] <drumroll> how do I update from os
[06:07] <drumroll> from *terminal
[06:07] <kunji> coolspot: It still might work with hostapd, seems like it did for this person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1835274
[06:07] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get update
[06:07] <drumroll> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" ?
[06:07] <dr_willis> drumroll:  yes...
[06:07] <billytwowilly> why trisquel?
[06:07] <Coded1> drumroll: yup
[06:07] <drumroll> thx
[06:07] <fas> kunji, dr_willis, prior to reboot I had logged in physically (at my desk) as my user thus whenever sshing in it was already unencrypted. Then after a reboot I didn't log back in so I need to unencrypt home every time I log in.
[06:08] <giggazilla> Looks like I have grep at least so that's plus
[06:08] <coolspot> kunji: That's not regarding 12.04 though?
[06:09] <dr_willis> fas:  makes sence to me.. I dont se emuch point in using encrypted home on my desktop machines
[06:09] <fas> dr_willis: it's a server
[06:09] <fas> but yeah, I did it just for fun
[06:09] <fas> didn't know of any downsides
[06:09] <dr_willis> seen LOTS of people with encrypted issues in here.
[06:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:10] <kunji> coolspot: Ah, you're right, my bad.  Not sure why I thought it was.
[06:10] <fas> haha good, not just me
[06:10] <dr_willis> unless its on a laptop and you have critical stuff you dont want to get stolen.
[06:10] <dr_willis> i dont see much point.
[06:10] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:10] <fas> dr_willis: unfortunately it's a pain to stop home encryption
[06:12] <aaron_> uh what do I do if I get a general protection fault
[06:12] <aaron_> screen turns black, scrolling white text
[06:15] <drumroll_> what causes general protection fault
[06:17] <coolspot> kunji: How about this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1046918
[06:19] <hillary> I have a window popup when starting libreoffice "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc"
[06:19]  * momo_ test
[06:19] <gnomefreak> test cnfirmed
[06:19] <hillary> When i click ok it start working well
[06:20] <hillary> what could be the issue here
[06:20] <hillary> It reads generalinput/output error
[06:22] <hillary> Any help?
[06:23] <hillary> I have a window popup when starting libreoffice "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc"
[06:23] <hillary> I have a window popup when starting libreoffice "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli"
[06:23] <hillary> ubuntu 12.04
[06:25] <kunji> coolspot: Hmm, that looks good, but as they say, they need the kernel changes, otherwise it will actually be creating an unsecured network.  That probably means the option on my 12.04 install actually creates an unsecured network though -_- good thing I wasn't using it.
[06:27] <coolspot> kunji: Yeah, dang it :/
[06:32] <fsvehla> Even though I have set /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to prompt=Lts, I get “New release '12.10' available.” on login. Is that normal?
[06:33] <aeon-ltd> fsvehla: try lower case 'l'?
[06:34] <somsip> book_list_for_tag (probably)
[06:34] <somsip> ooops
[06:34] <fsvehla> aeon-ltd: Ooh
[06:35] <fsvehla> aeon-ltd: Good catch, but that wasn’t it.
[06:35] <xrs> go into the software sorces and adjust there
[06:35] <xrs> tell it you only want lts notifications
[06:37] <greenmang0> !eol
[06:38] <pen9u1n> is it safe to remove a partition with parted, and add it again, and the partition still mount able?
[06:38] <xrs> sure but any data on the partition will be gone
[06:38] <pen9u1n> why? I will do nothing on that area
[06:38] <vbgunz> anyone here pretty familiar with the quirks of ssh? I have a private key that can log into a host over lan without a problem *but* using the exact same key, going over the internet through the public ip, connects to the same exact RSA verified host but my private key does not get accepted and neither does my password.
[06:38] <pen9u1n> actually i want to resize a part
[06:38] <aeon-ltd> pen9u1n: if you are mounting it like /dev/sdx/ and the x is the same
[06:39] <vbgunz> none of these problems exist if I connect over lan, but over the internet, the key fails and so does the password
[06:39] <vbgunz> does anyone know what I can look into for fixing this?
[06:40] <xrs> could be your router is not forwarding
[06:40] <aeon-ltd> vbgunz: if you have a firewall restriction that only allows connections over lan that could be it
[06:40] <xrs> have you set up port forwarding for SSH on the router? no firewall restrictions that conflict?
[06:41] <vbgunz> it is and should be forwarding, I connect to the same RSA host, it checks the private key and fails then prompts for a password and that fails too
[06:43] <RiXtEr> How can I remove a directory when there is so many files in it I can't even do a ls in it? (I have done rm -fr /path/to/directory, but it ran for about 10 hours, any my cpu load was cruising about 8 )
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: how did you get so many files>
[06:43] <aeon-ltd> ?
[06:43] <RiXtEr> I think a bug in another program.
[06:44] <hillary> anybody with a remedy to my problem?
[06:44] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: if the progam's running then it could be generating faster than you can rm
[06:44] <xrs> vbgunz,  there is also #ssh and #openssh
[06:44] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, hrm, I doubt it, but I will give it a shot.
[06:45] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: if it is, try booting to a livecd then managing the files there
[06:45] <RiXtEr> well, I can end the program, but it doesn't seem that is the issue.
[06:45] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, I ran rm with the program down for about 10 mins and the folder size never changes
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> RiXtEr: do you own all the files?
[06:46] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, the problem is I don't even know how many files are in this folder, but most are 0k
[06:46] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, running this as root.
[06:46] <aeon-ltd> ah
[06:46] <RiXtEr> aeon-ltd, the only reason I noticed it at all, is that I ran out of inodes.
[06:47] <xrs> have you tried the verbose switch to see what its doing?
[06:48] <RiXtEr> xrs, it looks to be working...
[06:50] <xrs> well i cant think of anything becides cloneine the drive but ignoreing that dir, then format n restore
[06:50] <kwerk> becides?
[06:50] <xrs> i should sleep
[06:50] <RiXtEr> xrs, I didn't know if anyone had a clever dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/directory command.
[06:52] <litropy> Hi, all - I'm running stock 12.04; I have no sound. I guess I'd like to start with pulling my soundcard info, which I need help with, and also seeing if it's properly active, which I also need help with. But, if you guys have a better idea, I'm all ears.
[06:52] <litropy> This is the first time I've tested sound on this box, btw.
[06:52] <CHIex> hello, I am choosing Linux distribution.. I am new Linux user, is UBUNTU user friendly?  is it hard to install software?
[06:52] <litropy> Although it's been operating fine in all other respects for months.
[06:53] <cfhowlett> CHIex, yes it's user friendly.  software install is easy.
[06:53] <kunji> RiXtEr: dd can't ignore just a file, it doesn't have a concept of filesystems, only of block level devices.
[06:53] <litropy> CHIex, Ubuntu is just about the friendliest linux distro you'll find.
[06:53] <abdullah> hello
[06:53] <RiXtEr> kunji, I know, I was just hopeful ;)
[06:53] <kunji> CHIex: what litropy said, and installing most software is very easy
[06:54] <cfhowlett> abdullah, greetings
[06:54] <abdullah> is there a good beginners for mono ?
[06:54] <kunji> RiXtEr: Are you just trying to get rid of the folder?
[06:54] <RiXtEr> kunji, yep
[06:55] <abdullah> cfhowlett thank you
[06:55] <RiXtEr> kunji, I have had rm -fr /path/to/folder running for about 10 hours, and ls -alhd reports the same size as 10 hours ago, 473 mb
[06:55] <cfhowlett> abdullah, what's your ubuntu question??
[06:55] <RiXtEr> err... 443 mb
[06:56] <litropy> CHIex, you're also in just the right place, for here is where your questions will be answered most effectively. You can count on this channel being active nearly 24 hours a day, into the foreseeable future.
[06:57] <abdullah> sorry it is my mistake :) i loged in both mono and ubuntu chanel sory for that guys
[06:57] <litropy> CHIex, just keep in mind, your questions may not be answered immediately. Case in point: my sound question up there.
[06:57] <RiXtEr> litropy, first check, double check, and check again if the card is just muted, then from a terminal run lspci (assuming its a pci card) and look for your sound card, then hop on google and see what module it uses and check to see if its loaded with lsmod
[06:57] <cfhowlett> abdullah, no worries
[06:57] <litropy> Yay, RiXtEr. Reading and executing.
[06:58] <kunji> RiXtEr: That's really strange, I thought that would have deleted in seconds.
[06:59] <RiXtEr> kunji, what I can tell you is I was at 100% inode usage (df -i) and now I am at 11%
[06:59] <RiXtEr> /dev/sda1            16138240 1679125 14459115   11% /
[07:00] <RiXtEr> kunji, and if what I read was right, 1 file takes 1 inode, so I cleared 14459115 files already.
[07:01] <RiXtEr> kunji, and gaining...
[07:01] <RiXtEr> 14466615 in just the amount of time we talked..
[07:01] <kunji> RiXtEr: Hmm, I don't know what to think of that, I've never seen something like that.  I guess I've heard of an attack or two designed to fill a disk, but I've never seen it happen.
[07:02] <RiXtEr> kunji, this is either a samba or cups bug, its a print spooler directory.
[07:02] <RiXtEr> kunji, which I know some of the samba devs personally, so I will hit them up first.
[07:02] <RiXtEr> (I know just last week they revamped a lot of the printing code)
[07:04] <kunji> RiXtEr: Isn't the print spool a notorious attack vector on windows?  Or am I getting mixed up with something else?  It certainly could be a bug, not something I've seen before, but yeah, those could certainly be involved, the devs will know much more than I do ^_^
[07:04] <RiXtEr> kunji, by my math, if I have killed of 90% in 10 hours, then the next 10% should only take maybe 1 more hour ;)
[07:04] <kunji> RiXtEr: When it gets down to 5% it will trigger a regen :P
[07:05] <RiXtEr> kunji, not funny.
[07:05] <RiXtEr> ;)
[07:05] <RiXtEr> Thanks for the help guys, I am out.
[07:12] <CHIex> what would be the minimum advised computer requirements to be able to open a lot of videos in UBUNTU?
[07:13] <CHIex> I mean YOUTUBE and similar...
[07:13] <CHIex> a lot of tabs open in browser
[07:13] <chriys> does someone can try this website and tell me if it works. Im verifying if its accessible from outsite thanks http://regroupementjeunesseenaction.com
[07:14] <cfhowlett> CHIex, minimum advice is just don't.  YT is a known resource hog in ANY system.
[07:14] <rypervenche> chriys: En dehors de quoi ?
[07:14] <kunji> CHIex:...flash... umm, I don't know about minimum, I don't have anything in between a 1.6 dual core and a 3.2 quad core.  The 1.6 is not really up to handling a lot of flash videos.
[07:14] <cfhowlett> CHIex, grab the firefox extension to download those videos for offline viewing
[07:14] <DR01D-Engineer> is anyone else getting weird pms?
[07:14] <rypervenche> DR01D-Engineer: Yep.
[07:15] <CHIex> well its mostly illegal to download videos, isnt it?
[07:15] <chriys> rypervenche j'essaie de voir s'il est accessible hors de mon réseau local parce que je peux y accéder moi. Je l'ai placé sur le port 8080 parce que le 80 est bloqué
[07:15] <cfhowlett> CHIex, mostly no
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !fr|chriys,
[07:15] <kunji> DR01D-Engineer: Yeah, not sure how to report that, they all want people to joing the calculus and philosophy channel...
[07:15] <rypervenche> chriys: Let's chat is PM
[07:15] <rypervenche> in*
[07:15] <CHIex> on youtube is allowed to download videos?
[07:16] <chriys> ok thanks. sorry for french
[07:16] <DR01D-Engineer> yeh
[07:16] <cfhowlett> CHIex, see vimeo.  Download option right on the page.  Also see mininova for free movie downloads
[07:17] <kunji> CHIex: I'm not sure about the youtube terms of service, but the youtube-dl package will download youtube videos, just remember to update it using the method in the program after installing it, the version in the repos is old.
[07:17] <rooty_> hey!!!
[07:17] <rooty_> whats up
[07:19] <purplerain> my Ubuntu sometimes failed to boot, what should i look at?
[07:19] <cfhowlett> CHIex, there are LOTS of free movies, videos and such available legally.
[07:19] <cfhowlett> purplerain, not enough info ...
[07:20] <kunji> cfhowlett: I think he's asking what info to gather, but yeah a better description of the failure would be good.
[07:21] <pnkbst> how do I run other window managers in ubuntu 12.10?  the old way of apt-get installing, rebooting and selecting the new wm at login doesn't seem to be an option anymore
[07:21] <purplerain> cfhowlett: idk what info i should provide, it just failed to boot after BIOS screen
[07:21] <cfhowlett> purplerain, could be hardware or software.  Are you dualbooting?  Is it only ubuntu failing to boot?   Is there any other off-key behavior you've noticed?
[07:21] <kunji> purplerain: a good first place to check is /var/log/syslog, also /var/log/xorg.0.log
[07:21] <cfhowlett> purplerain, did it free altogether or what?
[07:22] <kunji> purplerain: After bios screen, but before GRUB2?
[07:22] <cfhowlett> *freeze**
[07:22] <purplerain> kunji: after GRUB2
[07:23] <kunji> purplerain: Mmmk, does the OS start to load, if so, then I would expect some useful info in the syslog
[07:24] <kunji> purplerain: Unfortunately I'm no expert, but post the syslog and any xorg logs in /var/log and it will help others to help you.
[07:25] <kunji> purplerain: Also maybe dmesg and the kernel log, though I think problems there are less common.
[07:26] <timfrost> chriys: what are you trying to test? I can resolve your IP, but HTTP to it is blocked
[07:27] <chriys> yeah i know i just need my website to work
[07:27] <chriys> using different port
[07:27] <hillary> how do empty tmp folder in ubuntu 12.04
[07:27] <savagecroc> how do i set a path for a system user in ubuntu?
[07:27] <savagecroc> permantly that is
[07:27] <kunji> hillary: You can just delete the stuff in it like any other folder, also it is cleared on a reboot.
[07:27] <savagecroc> and is there someway i can set it for all the system users
[07:28] <savagecroc> add to /etc/environment or /etc/profile?   also i need it to work for multiple shells
[07:28] <hillary> kunji, ok. how about removing junks from my system 12.04?
[07:29] <kunji> hillary: What sort of junk?  apt-get clean comes to mind.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> hillary, apt-get clean && apt-get autoremove
[07:30] <eric_> Hey
[07:30] <purplerain> kunji: the OS doesnt start i guess, i dont use the plymouth so it just the _ that keeps blinking
[07:30] <cfhowlett> eric_, greetigns
[07:31] <eric_> Can I ask if anyone knows when we can get Ubuntu on our phones?
[07:31] <kunji> hillary: be careful with autoremove, just make sure to read anything it wants to remove and verify that you actually want to remove it.  But it's typically safe
[07:31] <cfhowlett> !phone|eric_,
[07:32] <hillary> kunji, when i start libreoffice i get a pop which says
[07:32] <hillary> kunji, "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli"
[07:32] <timfrost> chriys: I suspect that you need to talk to your ISP (videotron?) - it is possible that they may be blocking all traffic not initiated by you. A dynamic DNS service might work (dyndns.com or the like) if protocol blocks aren't the issue
[07:33] <kunji> hillary: I saw you mention that earlier, I don't know anything about it, otherwise I would have tried to help then.
[07:33] <CHIex> UBUNTU has some special IRC rooms for begginers?
[07:33] <chriys> ok i see. thanks for advie timfrost
[07:33] <hillary> what could have coused that?
[07:34] <kunji> hillary: Maybe it will be easier to find someone that knows by going directly to the libreoffice support?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> hillary, run your updates.  If that fails, you might need to sudo apt-get install libreoffice --reinstall
[07:35] <cfhowlett> hillary, and libreoffice support is highly recommended as this might not be an ubuntu glitch
[07:35] <hillary> cfhowlett, what caused this  "Error loading BASIC of document  file:///home/hillary/.config/libreoffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli" when i start libre office
[07:37] <hillary> cfhowlett, could you be having there link?
[07:38] <CHIex> do you have any IRC channels for begginers?
[07:39] <vijay_> hi,  ':is not a valid identifier  error in terminal.  pls is not a valid identifier help on this....
[07:39] <kostkon> !irc | CHIex
[07:40] <kunji> hillary: I don't know and I don't think he does either.  From the error, well, the document might be gone, corrupted, or misformatted, or it could be a bug with how libreoffice parses the file, there are a lot of possibilities.  Try the channel #libreoffice
[07:40] <Ububegin> I have a video file in ogv format and a few audio files in wav format.. I want to add them together so that I can place the audio files at certain segments in the video file.. Any ubuntu sw capable for this ?
[07:41] <kunji> CHIex: Beginner can ask questions here, that's not a problem.
[07:43] <kunji> Ububegin: Maybe Audacity?
[07:45] <Ububegin> kunji: now i am trying openshot.. I will try audacity ... tks.. :)
[07:46] <PatrickC> i have the ubuntu mini iso, and just flashed it to my usb drive
[07:46] <PatrickC> but it says "ERROR: No configuration file found"
[07:46] <PatrickC> and i am just at a boot prompt
[07:46] <subdesign> hi any quick help with "No system traya detected on this system" error?
[07:46] <subdesign> -a
[07:54] <subdesign> can I reach Startup applications from command line?
[07:55] <phoenixsampras> is there something i can do to improve the Unity performance? ive already have nvidia drivers..... its a bit better, but its lame compared to fedora for example..... help plz
[07:56] <sgo11> join #rsync
[07:56] <kunji> subdesign: yes... but I forget how T.T, some googling will probably turn it up pretty easily.
[07:57] <subdesign> yes meantime got it
[07:57] <kunji> subdesign: ^_^
[07:57] <subdesign> then where i found the startup prog. settings?
[07:58] <subdesign> i need to modify the hp settings to work with my task bar
[07:59] <kunji> subdesign: hp?  task bar?
[07:59] <kunji> !details | subdesign
[07:59] <subdesign> ok this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101828/no-system-tray-detected-on-this-system
[08:02] <subdesign> can find the path of autostart apps
[08:03] <WhiteRook> Anyone have experience dualbooting Ubuntu and WIN 8 AND/OR running it in VirtualBox?
[08:04] <fas> WhiteRook: both
[08:04] <fas> Successfully
[08:04] <hillary> when i click on libreoffice writer it opens terminal window. whats up?
[08:04] <fas> I'm on Win8 right now with 12.04 desktop on another partition
[08:05] <kunji> subdesign: Does this help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74031/startup-applications-missing-from-system-settings-screen-where-can-i-find-it  ?  Also it sounds like an update fixed that problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/335662  Have you tried updating?  Your problem might be with a different application?
[08:05] <gnomefreak> anyone remember the command to adjust update alternatives?
[08:05] <WhiteRook> I am trying to avoid losing my current install of Win8 (dont have files to reinstall programs) but dont know whether I would be better off dual booting or using VM to run Ubuntu
[08:05] <dysun> Hi all. I installed GNS3 from source doing the make/make install. i was wondering how I can figure out where the program is located
[08:05] <kunji> WhiteRook: Yes indeed, though not using gpt if that's what your setup is.
[08:06] <subdesign> kunji, i installed yesterday latest hp driver, and have the prob so..
[08:06] <fas> dysun: most likely in that directory
[08:06] <fas> idk GNS3 though
[08:06] <fas> just a guess
[08:06] <opalepatrick> I keep moaning about this. unity 12.10 64bit - Every boot up, the hud and launcher are behind all the startup programmes or any that I open. Have logout/in to fix. Any clues what may cause this?
[08:06] <fas> if you didn't add it to your bin/ you won't beable to just call it from command line
[08:06] <hillary> kunji, Help me my ubuntu 12.04 messing me up. when i click libreoffice writer it opens terminal window instead
[08:07] <kunji> WhiteRook: I like to dualboot for the better performance, but you would need to be careful doing the formatting.  A virtual machines is the most fool proof way to keep windows running as normal.
[08:07] <fas> Wubi is pretty good, but kinda slow
[08:07] <fas> Dual booting is pretty sure-fire
[08:08]  * gnomefreak cant reproduce that issue hillary  sorry not much help
[08:08] <dysun> fas: Is there a way to find it? It's been a while since installed the thing. If I do the apt-get install GNS3, it runs an older version f GNS3. I wanted a newer version so i compiled it all from source. If i have the apt-get install instance of GNS3 and i run gns3, it runs the older one, but if I remove it, ti'll run the one i compiled.
[08:08] <fas> If you make a backup of win8 first you should be safe
[08:08] <subdesign> kunji, the bug you pasted, comment #10, where to find this code line?
[08:08] <kunji> fas: Wubi isn't really slow, Wubi installs are also not virtual machines.
[08:09] <fas> kunji: my experience has been noticeably slower, but better than VM
[08:09] <fas> wubi is sightly better at keeping win8 in tact though compared to dual booting
[08:09] <WhiteRook> I want to go ahead and repartition now just in case, any suggestions on how much space on my primary HDD to allocate for use in the event I dual boot? Including swap and any other partitions i may need, total size?
[08:09] <fas> dysun: sorry, someone else might know
[08:09] <phoenixsampras> what is wubi?
[08:10] <fas> WhiteRook: how much physical ram
[08:10] <WhiteRook> Wubi is a loader for windows systems i think
[08:10] <somsip> !wubi | phoenixsampras
[08:10] <hillary> i should embark on serious reading of ubuntu linux. where are the best easy to learn materials
[08:10] <WhiteRook> 8GB physical
[08:10] <dysun> fas: ok. the question i guess is really more about where software packages go
[08:10] <fas> hillary: the main site
[08:10] <dysun> fas: thanks though
[08:10] <kunji> fas: Yeah, that's what I mean, it is somewhat slower than a native install, but I find it vastly faster than in a virtual machine, but that's probably less noticeable on systems where you can devote more resources to the VM.
[08:10] <fas> kunji: yup. I still prefer dual boot to Wubi though
[08:10] <hillary> fas, link
[08:11] <fas> ubuntu.com
[08:11] <phoenixsampras> oh thanks!!
[08:11] <fas> There is a LOT of documentation
[08:11] <somsip> hillary: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/an-absolute-ubuntu-beginners-guide.html
[08:11] <fas> WhiteRook: you probably don't need much swap
[08:11] <fas> how big of a hdd
[08:11] <fas> and how much do you have used by win8?
[08:11] <WhiteRook> 1TB
[08:12] <WhiteRook> i have 150GB used
[08:12] <hillary> somsip, Thanks
[08:12] <fas> I'd give 8gb swap (even though it's still overkill
[08:12] <fas> Then at least 30gb for the main partition since you can afford
[08:12] <fas> But of course, you can use as much as you want
[08:12] <dysun> fas: nvm i figured it out. /usr/local/src is where i put the source. /usr/local/bin is where the 'gns3' command is found
[08:13] <fas> Personally I have a 512gb ssd and have it split down the middle
[08:13] <kunji> WhiteRook: You only really need a root partition (/) and the swap partition (/swap), I would make swap the size of your RAM unless you have a lot.  / I would probably drop between 100 and 200 gigs on if my drive is that size, but you could install with as little as 5... I would use a minimum of 30
[08:13] <WhiteRook> Yeah i was thinking of freeing up about 100GB as unalocated (to be divided on partitions for ubuntu, swap, and another OS)
[08:13] <fas> dysun: I figured it'd be there, but I wasn't confident. :)
[08:14] <fas> If you're going to do a third, I would have more than 100
[08:14] <fas> You don't want to keep on repartitioning to prevent screwing something up
[08:14] <kunji> subdesign: You say you installed the latest driver?  Maybe put back the old one, I'm guess this new driver wasn't in the repos was it?
[08:14] <fas> WhiteRook: I mean, you don't want to keep on resizing partitions
[08:14] <subdesign> kunji, no
[08:14] <fas> I'd suggest taking at least 150gb from your win8
[08:15] <subdesign> i downloaded the latest deb package
[08:15] <fas> then split that into ubuntu and leave some unallocated for your third
[08:15] <kunji> WhiteRook: Yeah, better not to keep resizing if you don't need to, though personally I've never had gparted screw up, it's better not to chance it.
[08:15] <fas> Easier to add unallocated to already existing partitions then resizing existing ones with data
[08:15] <fas> I've never had gparted screw up either, but yeah, it has been known to happen
[08:16] <WhiteRook> no i just plan on leaving some of the 100 as unalocated for 3rd i meant
[08:16] <fas> That's why backing up is always a good idea
[08:16] <fas> WhiteRook: if you think 100 is enough for two whole OSs.
[08:16] <fas> You Do have a 1tb drive. ;)
[08:16] <fas> Up to you of course. 100 will be fine for 2 *nix OSs
[08:16] <kunji> WhiteRook: A heads up, windows likes to complain when it gets resized and will insist on checking the filesystem, sometimes it gets in a bad sort of loop where it checks it on every boot, so try really hard to not resize the windows partition
[08:18] <kunji> Mmk... I need to sleep, only 2 hours last night and it's 3:18 A.M. where I am.
[08:18] <fas> Thanks for earlier kunji
[08:18] <fas> ah balls
[08:18] <WhiteRook> If i were to free up 500GB as unalocated, once I format a partition for ubuntu, would i have issues adding some of the unalocated remaining space to windows parittion if needed? the partitions have to be adjacent dont they?
[08:19] <fas> WhiteRook: probabl not too much of a problem, but windows does complain a bit when resized either direction
[08:19] <fas> Just make sure to back up win8 before doing anything
[08:19] <WhiteRook> haha yeah
[08:21] <WhiteRook> any favorite bootloaders out there that work well for anyone with multi mixed OSs (not all nix OSs)?
[08:21] <fas> I'm running server 12.04, what is the best way to set up a vm? I'm looking at setting up a vm of metasploitable so there won't be any graphics on the VM
[08:21] <fas> WhiteRook: grub is awesome
[08:22] <fas> Should find win8 automatically too
[08:22] <WhiteRook> used grub once awhile back, liked it - didnt know if it has issues on win 8 though
[08:22] <fas> Nope, it's solid
[08:22] <fas> It's what I use
[08:22] <somsip> !info svfb | fas
[08:22] <somsip> !info Xvfb | fas
[08:22] <fas> Besides, grub just points to windows' own bootloader
[08:22] <somsip> !info xvfb | fas
[08:23] <fas> somsip: thanks
[08:23] <fas> I'll check it out
[08:23] <fas> I heard of bochs but it sounded like a poor solution
[08:23] <somsip> fas: I use this with a CI server so it may be similar for VMs. I think i've seen search results for VM on a headless server before too
[08:23] <fas> hmm. Ok
[08:24] <iceroot> fas: i am using xen for my headless vms on a server
[08:25] <fas> iceroot: how does xen work?
[08:25] <fas> Is it run in X?
[08:25] <iceroot> !xen | fas
[08:25] <iceroot> fas: no
[08:25] <fas> that sounds pretty good then
[08:26] <iceroot> fas: its directly in the kernel (you need a xen-kernel)
[08:26] <fas> iceroot: thanks
[08:26] <iceroot> hm, no xen-kernel in 12.04?
[08:27] <iceroot> !info xen-hypervisor-amd64
[08:27] <subdesign> if I installed drivers this way - http://bit.ly/14ye5ac - how can I remove it?
[08:27] <fas> I think everyone past 11.04 has xen-kernel
[08:28] <iceroot> !info xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64 precise
[08:28] <iceroot> fas: you could also have a look at kvm
[08:29] <iceroot> !kvm | fas
[08:29] <fas> god damn it
[08:29] <iceroot> fas: seems like ubuntu os prefering kvm and not xen
[08:29] <fas> just installed xen
[08:29] <fas> lol
[08:31] <iceroot> fas: i am running fine here with xen, so xen is not a bad option but as it seems kvm is the current vm-tech (kernel based) which is getting more support/updates
[08:31] <fas> alright
[08:31] <fas> any way I can roll back this aptitude install?
[08:32] <bono> it's simply the fastest virtualization sw out there
[08:32] <iceroot> fas: apt-get remove packagename
[08:32] <fas> thanks
[08:32] <dr_willis> best to not use aptitude these days.
[08:32] <fas> does that take care of dependencies it installed?
[08:32] <iceroot> !aptitude | fas
[08:32] <iceroot> dr_willis: btw the bug is fixed in 12.10
[08:32] <iceroot> fas: yes
[08:32] <fas> iceroot: thanks
[08:32] <Tensibai> Hi
[08:32] <WhiteRook> ok wtf is 686 architecture
[08:33] <iceroot> fas: but for the dependencies you have to run "sudo apt-get autoremove" after
[08:33] <iceroot> WhiteRook: 32bit
[08:33] <iceroot> WhiteRook: i686
[08:33] <Tensibai> I'm looking for specs about partman in preseed files
[08:33] <iceroot> WhiteRook: also known as x86
[08:34] <Tensibai> If someone has a pointer on what the 3 numbers does exactly within expert-recipe it would really help me
[08:34] <WhiteRook> i just got an error stating my x64 ISO for ubunto wont run but i am running an intel i7 3630 quad core 64 bit
[08:34] <iceroot> WhiteRook: and what error exactly?
[08:35] <WhiteRook> i was trying to get ubuntu up on a test in VM and it said only i686 was detected
[08:35] <WhiteRook> CPU virtualization maybe?
[08:35] <WhiteRook> no direct paging access?
[08:35] <iceroot> WhiteRook: you did not enable VT-X in virtualbox
[08:35] <iceroot> WhiteRook: or vmware
[08:36] <iceroot> WhiteRook: or vt-x is not enabled in the bios
[08:36] <WhiteRook> yeah i disabled it because i got a conflict when i tried it first
[08:36] <iceroot> WhiteRook: and how should amd64 work when you disable vt-x?
[08:36] <fas> iceroot: does xen run if my cpu desn't support hardware virtualization?
[08:36] <iceroot> WhiteRook: vt-x is the reason why amd64 is working in vms
[08:36] <iceroot> fas: yes
[08:36] <WhiteRook> yeah i know im tired and not thinking lol
[08:36] <fas> kvm doesn
[08:36] <fas> t
[08:37] <fas> so I guess I'll be going with xen. :P
[08:37] <iceroot> fas: what cpu do you have?
[08:37] <fas> amd, it's old
[08:37] <fas> idk specifics off top of my head
[08:37] <fas> dual core
[08:37] <iceroot> fas: you could have a look at "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[08:38] <iceroot> fas: but i dont know how it is named on amd cpus, on intel its "vt-x"
[08:38] <iceroot> fas: hm, if that is missing, i dont know if your system can run xen
[08:39] <WhiteRook> intel core i7 should have vt-x
[08:39] <fas> no vt_x and it actually IS intel
[08:39] <iceroot> fas: the manpage is saying its working without vt-x
[08:39] <fas> cool
[08:40] <WhiteRook> when enabling vt-x in VM it tells me its locked (BIOS i assume?)
[08:40] <subdesign> dr_willis, how to uninstall an app installed this way: http://bit.ly/14ye5ac ?
[08:40] <iceroot> WhiteRook: maybe
[08:40] <iceroot> WhiteRook: have a look at the bios
[08:42] <dr_willis> subdesign:  rerun the .run thing and see if it has an uninstaller
[08:42] <subdesign> thx
[08:43] <dr_willis> whatever.run --help      may give some info also
[08:46] <fig> is dell still making ubuntu laptops?
[08:47] <subdesign> dr_willis, meantime found offical uninstall commands
[08:47] <dr_willis> it pays to read the docs. ;)
[08:47] <reiligha> Hi. I'm messing around in an attempt to learn linux, and I'm having trouble with echo. When I echo a - protocol it just echos all the things (IE <echo -e /a Alert!> returns <-e /a Alert!>, annoyingly)
[08:48] <reiligha> Er, sorry, it returns /a Alert!, not the -e
[08:48] <dr_willis> reiligha:  /a is supposed to do a beep? thats normaly disabled by a  a lot of disrtos who blacklist the pcspker module
[08:49] <reiligha> Oh, I didn't know that, I thought I was doing it wrong. I'll try some other /stuff. Thanks!
[08:49] <dr_willis> ive never noticed tbe -e option to echo. ;)
[08:50] <reiligha> dr_willis I'm not sure if it's supposed to beep or what, the manual just says that it does an alert. I was curious as to what that means.
[08:50] <reiligha> dr_willis Also, the manual is very wrong about what typing <echo --help> will do.
[08:50] <dr_willis> no idea.. id skip it and move to the nect chapter.  the book may be outdated.. o
[08:51] <reiligha> dr_willis I'm just doing <man echo>
[08:51] <dr_willis> i thought echo was a bash builtin.
[08:51] <reiligha> I'm pretty sure it is, based on the other stuff I'm reading.
[08:52] <reiligha> But I'm pretty newbie so I'm likely to be wrong and break my stuff.
[08:52] <dr_willis> manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/echo.1.html
[08:52] <hexy> Hey, anyone know of a stable desktop automation utility? I tried autokey but it keeps crashing.
[08:52] <dr_willis> see the 'note:'  -
[08:53] <dr_willis> bash  has its own echo builtin i think.
[08:53] <dr_willis> #bash channel may be able to tell you more.
[08:54] <reiligha> dr_willis Thank you.
[08:55] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/27355/how-do-i-get-help-for-echo-or-other-bash-commands
[08:55] <dr_willis> bash does have a echo builtin
[08:56] <hexy> Anyone know of a stable desktop automation utility? I tried autokey but it keeps crashing.
[08:57] <dr_willis> !info autokey
[08:58] <dr_willis> hexy:  what are you trying to do exaxtly?
[08:58] <iceroot> hexy: i am using "xdotool" maybe there is also a gui for it. its coming directly from the x-server
[08:58] <hexy> !autokey-gtk
[08:59] <dr_willis> !info autokey-gtk
[08:59] <hexy> Lol, yeah I forgot the info
[08:59] <BillyZane2> hi dr_willis!
[08:59] <BillyZane2> u are my hero, you know that?
[09:00] <hexy> dr_willis:  I am trying to download this huge list of videos which takes a few minutes per download and I don't want to sit and to it manually
[09:00] <hexy> iceroot: Will check that, thanks.
[09:01] <WhiteRook> so BIOS had vt x disabled - how ridiculous
[09:01] <WhiteRook> now i have to re mount the ISO on my virtual drive
[09:01] <iceroot> WhiteRook: :) its the same on my dell notebook, disbaled by default :(
[09:02] <WhiteRook> or maybe not
[09:03] <WhiteRook> had to set 3 second boot delay just to have a chance to enter bios
[09:06] <odt> hey, is there a known issue with cifs mounts on raring with 3.8 kernel?
[09:07] <odt> Jan 31 10:56:43 server kernel: [ 7755.524033] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[09:07] <somsip> !13.04 | odt
[09:07] <odt> thanks
[09:10] <Guest64524> cant get wifi drivers in a wubi install, any thoughts?
[09:10] <WhiteRook> wow - ubuntu is flying on this new system even in a VM
[09:11] <WhiteRook> you should be able to
[09:11] <Guest64524> no tethering option either
[09:12] <WhiteRook> wlan card model?
[09:13] <Guest64524> broadcom
[09:14] <Guest64524> whoops dell wireless
[09:14] <WhiteRook> OS currently running?
[09:16] <Guest64524> think i may have solved it
[09:18] <Guest64524> can i install ubuntus sta driver without net
[09:20] <subdesign> im totally lost. have no toolbar and launcher..
[09:29] <danske> anyone use redshift?
[09:30] <llutz> !anyone | danske
[09:31] <danske> !anyone
[09:31] <danske> !details
[09:31] <danske> !gq
[09:31] <danske> !poll
[09:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> please pm the bot and do it there
[09:31] <adamlis> W
[09:32] <adamlis> Is this a valid command? rsync --dry-run -pav backup-lokal@adress.se:/var/www/site.se/application/xx/ /media/backup/xx/
[09:32] <adamlis> would htat work with dry run?
[09:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> -n is the same as --dry-run I think
[09:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> i'd try it and see what it says
[09:32] <adamlis> but did I put the syntax on the right place RaTTuS|BIG ?
[09:32] <llutz> adamlis: -a  includes -p, it should run
[09:33] <adamlis> llutz: I want it to dry-run
[09:33] <llutz> adamlis: rsync -nav ...
[09:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes it will dry run though I tend to use -van to check and -va to tell me whats it doing
[09:34] <adamlis> llutz: rsync -pav backup-lokal@dxxr.se:/var/www/xxs.se/application/orders/ /media/backup/orders/
[09:37] <adamlis> llutz: I mean rsync -nav backup-lokal@dxxr.se:/var/www/xxs.se/application/orders/ /media/backup/orders/
[09:37] <adamlis> copied the wrong thing
[10:01] <yunfan> hi, i just got a chromebook(the 245USD one), someone said i can install a ubuntu-core-armhf on it , and then add those softwares that i need, i have downloaded it, but how can i install that tarball?
[10:02] <somsip> yunfan: this link but it implies this is still alpha http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/arm-chrubuntu-1204-alpha-1-now.html
[10:04] <Italyne> Hello
[10:05] <yunfan> somsip: well, that's what i talk about
[10:06] <Italyne> I have some question about John The Ripper install , can any help me?
[10:07] <chaz68> OK... setting up 12.10 server in VM with bridging in VMware.... Been playing with the network settings.  Have local ping but no Internet... What am I forgetting about..?
[10:08] <fedor> hi there, when i installed u12.04 on my drives i used 7 gb for root 3 gb for swap(bcz i have 3gb Ram) and 100 for other files. approx 90 gb of space for files is available. However i cannot watch movies where buffering is needed for example files of more than 600Mb in size. What can i do to make my PC utilize space i spared for files (100gb)?
[10:08] <yunfan> somsip: somsip what i need is offline install
[10:11] <Italyne> I have some question about John The Ripper install , can any help me?
[10:12] <fedor> i guess it is not the right time for questions. So many people online and no one answers. Am i beein' selfish?
[10:13] <Italyne> :)
[10:13] <Italyne> true
[10:13] <Italyne> I read and watch a lot of tut's how to install it .. but still doesnt work
[10:14] <iceroot> fedor: i dont get what you really want to ask
[10:14] <iceroot> timfrost: and in your "question" i cant find usefull details
[10:14] <iceroot> timfrost: wrong nick
[10:14] <iceroot> Italyne: see above
[10:15] <fedor> hi there, when i installed u12.04 on my drives i used 7 gb for root 3 gb for swap(bcz i have 3gb Ram) and 100 for other files. approx 90 gb of space for files is available. However i cannot watch movies where buffering is needed for example files of more than 600Mb in size. What can i do to make my PC utilize space i spared for files (100gb)?
[10:15] <iceroot> fedor: i still dont get what you want
[10:15] <iceroot> fedor: you can repeat your question 10 times
[10:16] <iceroot> fedor: you are talking about partition layout and asking why your movies cant be watched
[10:17] <chaz68> This fixed my problem:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/71159/network-manager-says-device-not-managed
[10:17] <fedor> u see, when u want to watch movies online browser needs to buffer what u want to see. What i mean is that cpu is buffering video saving chunks to be watched in the root. My rootspace is limited. When the limit is reached i can no more watch it
[10:17] <Italyne> iceroot,  what you mean see above ?  Where above ?
[10:17] <chaz68> fedor:  I would tell you to make a much bigger drive than 7GB for your OS install if you are using 12.04...
[10:18] <chaz68> of course that's the easy answer...
[10:18] <fedor> no kiddin' there.
[10:18] <iceroot> Italyne: directly above, i just picked up the wrong name
[10:18] <Italyne> okey..
[10:18] <Italyne> I must wait for answer :D
[10:19] <iceroot> Italyne: there is no real question from you
[10:19] <iceroot> Italyne: just this "does anyone"... and that is not a real question so everyone here is ignoring something like that
[10:19] <chaz68> fedor:  do you have any network resources to try a net boot...?
[10:19] <Italyne> iceroot,  ok then my question will be :
[10:19] <sire> ubuntu 12.04 why cant windows exe sapi5  voices be installed on ubuntu?
[10:19] <fedor> i was advised to use 7gb of space for root, and that was given for 10.** version in the manual which i downed from the russian support site
[10:20] <Italyne> How to fix john the ripper on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[10:20] <iceroot> !details | Italyne
[10:20] <fedor> i am a newbie in u12.04. I only recently found out that middle button can be used to paste the highlighted text
[10:23] <kektal> I'm going crazy with my wlan asking for password whenever I just want to connect to wifi someone please help me
[10:26] <Italyne> I have problem with John The Ripper, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. When I try to decrypt some hash I get output answer: No password hashes loaded (see FAQ)..but I do everything correctly. So can any help me ?
[10:27] <Italyne> iceroot,  what you think for my question now :)
[10:27] <WhiteRookUbuntuV> ***testing XChat on Ubuntu running as guest in VM
[10:27] <Jojo_> hello guys, can someone tell me or show me how name an IP address?
[10:27] <Italyne> Jojo_,  go to url :  whatismyip.com
[10:28] <somsip> !test | WhiteRookUbuntuV
[10:28] <Italyne> Jojo_,  mailto:Jojo@121.54.58.136
[10:28] <somsip> Jojo_: you want to map a domain to an IP?
[10:29] <molqr> after a sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop .... the ability to maximize/minimize windows is lost... the menu which appears after hitting Alt-Space is not coming any more ....   can i restart the window manager? will it affect the already running programs that use X?
[10:30] <Jojo_> somsip, no, actually naming an IP address like 192.168.1.1(mydomain.com)
[10:30] <dr_willis> molqr:  tey 'unity --replace &' in a terminal?
[10:30] <Jojo_> somsip, when i look up in browser, it only looks up the name of the IP
[10:30] <Italyne> I have problem with John The Ripper, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. When I try to decrypt some hash I get output answer: No password hashes loaded (see FAQ)..but I do everything correctly. So can any help me ?
[10:30] <molqr> dr_willis: much obliged.
[10:31] <molqr> will it kill the current X programs? i m running a simulation that i dont' want to lose
[10:31] <dr_willis> molqr:  then use exit in the terminal. weirrd that networking caused that.
[10:31] <Jojo_> does someone know how to name an IP address?
[10:31] <kektal> networkmanager asking for root password whenever I just want to connect to wifi or any other network, how do I stop that? org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.settings.modify.system
[10:31] <Jojo_> does someone know how to name an IP address?
[10:31] <dr_willis> molqr:  it shouldent
[10:31] <molqr> dr_willis: great!
[10:31] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  clarify what you mean
[10:32] <Italyne> Jojo_,  url :   no-ip.com   good luck
[10:32] <hXm> i have ubuntu configured with utf8, but modifing files with nano it looks as nano is not using utf8
[10:32] <hXm> where can i check this?
[10:33] <Jojo_> dr_willis, our teacher instructed to install DNS and now he wants us to give NAMES to IP ADDRESSES..
[10:33] <llutz> Jojo_: "he wants us "  not us
[10:33] <Italyne> Jojo_,  are you stuped or you cant read? go to fucking no-ip.com  url , and choice your free
[10:33] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  so you need to edit  your dns server configs.. this is a homework assignment?
[10:33] <Tm_T> Italyne: please watch your language and attitude
[10:34] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  so on a local lan. you have your own custom dns server for the local lan> and you want local lan pcs to have a name you can lookup via the dns server?
[10:34] <Italyne> Tm_T,  why?  Couse  you answer only at stuped question's?
[10:35] <hXm> is no-ip still for free?
[10:35] <karu_> I just got ubuntu and I have no idea what I'm doing
[10:35] <dr_willis> !manual | karu_
[10:35] <Jojo_> Italyne, im not talking to you , sorry for being rude!
[10:35] <Adeeb> HI -- How can I block a specific app from my computer --- linuxdc++ to be specific?
[10:35] <Italyne> hXm yes its is :)
[10:35] <Tm_T> Italyne: because our rules says so, so please
[10:35] <karu_> ty
[10:36] <Jojo_> dr_w
[10:36] <Jojo_> dr_willis, something like that sir :)
[10:36] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  so it sounds like you need to learn how to configure your dns server
[10:36] <karu_> how do I connect to another irc server
[10:36] <Jojo_> dr_willis, yes sir
[10:36] <dr_willis> karu_:  depends on your irc client
[10:36] <Italyne> Tm_T,  in my country only the sheeps follow rules. So be good sheep and answer my question? Mr.Skilled Hacker.
[10:36] <karu_> I got smuxi
[10:37] <dr_willis> most support a /server or /connect command
[10:37] <AppleJuice> Adeeb, Is it a program you wish to remove from your computer?
[10:37] <Tm_T> Italyne: if you like to continue discussion about how this channel is run, please join #ubuntu-ops but while you're on ubuntu channels you are expected to follow our rules
[10:37] <karu_> so I just type that followed by the server i want to join
[10:37] <dr_willis> karu_:  try it and see  yes...
[10:37] <dr_willis>    /server servername
[10:38] <karu_> ok ty
[10:38] <Jojo_> dr_willis, i have installed the DNS, now how can I configure it? can you help me please?
[10:38] <dr_willis> Jojo_:  configuring dns is the kind of thing theres  large BOOKS written about... its not a trivial thing.. and if this is your homework.. sounds like you n eed to go read the docs for dns.
[10:39] <Adeeb> AppleJuice : I've already removed it. The problem however is that i can re-install it, it's a distraction for me so I was wondering whether it is possible to block it for an amount of time from my computer
[10:39] <dr_willis> Adeeb:  you are trying to keep yourself from using it?
[10:39] <Adeeb> dr_willis : precisely!
[10:39] <dr_willis> Adeeb:  you do realize how strange that sounds?
[10:40] <bilel> Hi, I've installed ubuntu last week and I can't get windows + ubuntu to be bootable on my machine, on the first install, it defaulted to windows, I've then run boot repair, this time grub screen was there, but windows not bootable (only ubuntu) because of "secure boot", I've disabled it from BIOS, and ran boot repair again, and now it defaults to windows again, I don't see grub screen, what...
[10:40] <bilel> ...can I do?
[10:40] <AppleJuice> Adeeb, Joke rating: 9 out of 10 smilies.
[10:40] <Adeeb> I'm trying to fight an addiction
[10:41] <dr_willis> hang in irc all day.... thats a better addiction
[10:42] <Adeeb> I was thinking of writing a python script or smthing for doing what I need, the problem is that I will know how to stop it
[10:43] <AppleJuice> Hmmm... yes... thats tricky.
[10:44] <llutz> Adeeb: create an sudo-account for one of us, remove yourself from sudo/admin group, ask everytime you want to install/do stuff here, problem solved. ;)
[10:45] <Jojo_> dr_willis, oh, ok...thanks..highschool work sure is tough
[10:45] <dr_willis> thats why its called home work....
[10:45] <Adeeb> lltz : lol, very funny!
[10:46] <Jojo_> seat work
[10:46] <Jojo_> were doing it only on lab session in school
[10:46]  * dr_willis just tossed out  an old Book on using DNS/bind
[10:47] <llutz> Jojo_: if you already installed a dns-server, you know its name. so you start reading the man-pages/documentation for it.
[10:50] <molqr> dr_willis: thanks that worked out great. but now nm-applet won't start ... it is complaining that it can't connect to d-bus ... ... if i restart dbus will it restart X? just want to preserve my currnetly running X programs
[10:50] <dr_willis> molqr:  then i would wait a while till they are all done doing stuff then just log out/back in
[10:51] <molqr> dr_willis: ok. thanks.
[10:52] <dr_willis> you stopped networking.. so why do you nwed network manager...   ;-)
[11:05] <reiligha> When I attempt to use sudo from my standard account, it says "This incident will be reported." But when I log into my admin account, I can't figure how to determine where it's been reported too. Where do those kind of reports go?
[11:06] <tsimpson> reiligha: /var/log/auth.log
[11:06] <reiligha> tsimpson: Thank you.
[11:14] <groundnuty> hey, anuone here has asus MB and boots in uefi mode?
[11:16] <jimmy_lo> Hi all, I am building webkit, but it shows the message
[11:16] <jimmy_lo> configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0) were not met: Requested 'gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0' but version of GTK+ is 3.0.8
[11:17] <jimmy_lo> I use "sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev", but it tells me that libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version.
[11:18] <jimmy_lo> How to upgrade gtk+-3.0 to 3.4.0?
[11:18] <Ben64> what version of ubuntu
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:25] <[twisti]> hello, im following this article: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/08/19/how-to-install-and-configure-dropbox-on-ubuntu-server-12-04-lts/ after step "Start the dropbox and check it’s status:" i get this error "dropbox: unrecognized service". is the article wrong ? im pretty sure i followed everything correctly
[11:27] <spirit_> 请问有中国人吗。。
[11:29] <BluesKaj> !cn | spirit_
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> sigh....   k well i totaly did a number on my system
[11:30] <l057c0d3r> but i have to say... im rather happy with the outcome
[11:31] <l057c0d3r> started with a base lubuntu system..  installed gnome..  changed session to gnome/openbox.  and then run cairo-dock to replace gnome's taskbars ext..  yet keep the gnome classic application menu :-)  and i'm very happy with this setup
[11:32] <l057c0d3r> fixed the issue i was having with the messaging system in cairo-dock as well..
[11:32] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: curiosity asks for a screenshot
[11:33] <l057c0d3r> its not completely finished yet.. but i could hook you up...
[11:33] <l057c0d3r> do me a fav  wait like ten seconds and nick alert me again.. i want to see something..  just switched over from xchat to xchat-gnome..  to add it to the messaging menu.. want to see if it works like i think
[11:34] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: ok
[11:34] <inhies> is it possible to have a ppa on launchpad that will give the user 64 bit or 32 bit versinos of my package depending on their architecure automatically?
[11:35] <l057c0d3r> oh now that is soooo cool....
[11:35] <iceroot> inhies: sure
[11:35] <iceroot> inhies: that is the default
[11:35] <inhies> iceroot: cool, im just getting started so i assume one of the guides somewhere will tell me how to do that
[11:35] <inhies> just wanted to check
[11:35] <l057c0d3r> to bad i cant close it to the messaging menu like empathy...  if i close it it closes xchat..  and even if xchat is open if i click on it in the messaging menu it opens a new instance..  but not a big issue
[11:36] <iceroot> inhies: there is nothing special to do
[11:36] <iceroot> inhies: its all provided in the source-package which will tell if it is "all" or not, if it is not all, the buildsystem will create the amd64 and i386 version
[11:37] <l057c0d3r> k well i will take that screenshot and upload it for you really fast
[11:37] <iceroot> inhies: and apt-get/aptitude and so on will fetch the correct architectue version
[11:37] <inhies> iceroot: will my package be distributed as source or wtih a binary? it's written in Golang so i was hoping to provide users with my ppa detail and then they can just isntall the binary
[11:41] <jorik_> как  зарегистрироватся на руи убунту?
[11:41] <ThinkT510> !ru | jorik_
[11:42] <skorpio> hello, how can i install latest gnome-shell under 12.04?
[11:43] <ThinkT510> skorpio: you don't
[11:43] <skorpio> no way?
[11:43] <Ben64> !latest
[11:43] <Adeeb> Is it possible to block a dc hub address using SelfControl in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:43] <ThinkT510> skorpio: you can but it isn't supported
[11:44] <skorpio> ThinkT510: will it ever be?
[11:44] <ThinkT510> skorpio: no
[11:44] <Ben64> uh, pretty sure gnome-shell is in the repositories
[11:44] <Ben64> !info gnome-shell
[11:45] <ThinkT510> Ben64: it is, but he is asking for the latest on 12.04
[11:45] <l057c0d3r> so what is a good website to upload this screenshot to'
[11:45] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: imagebin.org
[11:45] <skorpio> ubottu: thank you
[11:46] <Aknot> I have ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop, what happens if i dont upgrade it? Can i only get programs which are years old?
[11:46] <Ben64> Aknot: no security updates, leaves you potentially open to attack
[11:46] <ThinkT510> Aknot: its not supported anymore
[11:48] <Aknot> But can i get for instance latest firefox from repositories?
[11:48] <l057c0d3r> here you go http://imagebin.org/244917
[11:48] <ThinkT510> Aknot: the repos are no longer available so no
[11:49] <ThinkT510> l057c0d3r: that does look nice
[11:49] <l057c0d3r> and remember..  this is just setup with a tiny bit of work to it..  its no where near complete.. its my start for moving away from the new gnome and unity..  and having something that just works better then lxde
[11:49] <Ben64> Aknot: you should really update, it's not going to get any better
[11:50] <Aknot> <l057c0d3r that looks wonderful, if i install latest ubuntu then gnome how can i get it to look like that?
[11:50] <l057c0d3r> i started off by installing lubuntu..  then from there installed gnome and cairo-dock.
[11:51] <l057c0d3r> then on the login screen..  select gnome/openbox for the session....
[11:51] <roasted> Question - when working with mdadm, is it bad practice to have a file system on your hard drives before adding them to the raid array? I had ext4 on both of my drives before mirroring them, but they seem to work fine (in fact I'm not even sure I set them as a raid f0 or whatever prior, but still the array is running now)
[11:51] <l057c0d3r> after that..  you will have to make cairo-dock autostart with that session..  but for first time to get the cairo-dock to show up...  press ctl-alt-t and type cairo-dock &
[11:52] <Aknot> <l057c0d3r do i also need openbox?
[11:53] <l057c0d3r> openbox comes with lubuntu....  since its an lxde/openbox session by default
[11:53] <l057c0d3r> i believe if you are using ubuntu instead of lubuntu.. you can just install gnome and cairo-dock.. and from the session menu there should be a cario-dock/gnome session as well
[11:54] <CyL> Hi, I'm readind online about setting up a ubuntu box (12.04 LTS) as a LAMP server, and there is this article on how to do it using tasksel, however it is outdated (written for 10.04). I'd like to know if this is still a safe and easy approach.
[11:54] <l057c0d3r> my main reason for using gnome over lxde for this setup.. was the fact the gnome menu is better....  just works better then the lxde menu...
[11:55] <l057c0d3r> Aknot, and you can do a lot more with it then i have in this picture.... this is almost a base install setup...
[11:55] <chuxxsss> Hi all
[11:56] <l057c0d3r> well i'll probably be back in a min.. going to log off and check a few things..  make sure everything is working like i think it is
[11:56] <nazmulwanted> hi to all
[11:58] <judgen> Sorry to ask what might be a stupid question. I know that Unity depends on gnome bits and pieces. But what parts of unity warrants the dependency of Qt?
[11:59] <judgen> Do not get me wrong, i do not mind having Qt, quite the opposite. But why can not the entirety of unity been done in one toolkit?
[12:00] <FlowRiser> judgen, kde is done in qt; Whereas unity+compiz support qt, but don't actually depend on it.
[12:00] <nep1x> hi buddies! which is for you a good RSS/Atom reader for ubuntu?
[12:00] <FlowRiser> judgen, if you want a Qt Desktop, get kubuntu
[12:00] <judgen> nep1x: but if you install unity package it also pulls in Qt?
[12:01] <FlowRiser> judgen, what distro do you have ?
[12:01] <judgen> precise
[12:01] <FlowRiser> judgen, might be it does so for the unity-2d which is done in Qt
[12:01] <opalepatrick> anyone else see unity dash and launcher under/behind startup programmes etc? Need to logout and back to get it to act normally
[12:01] <FlowRiser> it is unsupported as of 12.10
[12:01] <judgen> so it is all gtk now?
[12:02] <FlowRiser> judgen, i'm not sure actually, might be so, but i hear they are looking into something else :D
[12:04] <kostkon> judgen, it isn't realistic to expect the whole desktop to be written in one toolkit. Anyway, it's just the qt deps you have on your system and not the KDE ones. There are a lot of qt apps. Just try to avoid installing KDE apps, there aren't many anyway, and you should be fine?
[12:04] <kostkon> judgen, e.g. the U1 client is a qt app.
[12:04] <judgen> ok
[12:06] <jimmy_lo> I use ubuntu 11.04, I am building webkit, but it shows the messag: configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0) were not met: Requested 'gtk+-3.0 >= 3.4.0' but version of GTK+ is 3.0.8. I use "sudo apt-get install libgtk-3-dev", but it tells me that libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version.
[12:06] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: 11.04 is no longer supported
[12:07] <jimmy_lo> So I have to manually download and build it
[12:07] <Ben64> no, you need to upgrade
[12:07] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: to get support you need to be using a supported release
[12:07] <jrib> jimmy_lo: no, you should upgrade your ubuntu version to a supported one (12.04 or 12.10)
[12:08] <jimmy_lo> You mean upgrade ubuntu to 11.10 or higher
[12:08] <jimmy_lo> 12.04
[12:08] <Ben64> support for 11.04 ended in October 2012, so you haven't gotten any security updates since then
[12:08] <jrib> jimmy_lo: yes, though 11.10 will only have support until april, so I'd suggest going to at least 12.04 at this point
[12:08] <jimmy_lo> OMG, I didn't notice that
[12:08] <bilel> Hi, I've installed ubuntu last week and I can't get windows + ubuntu to be bootable on my machine, on the first install, it defaulted to windows, I've then run boot repair, this time grub screen was there, but windows not bootable (only ubuntu) because of "secure boot", I've disabled it from BIOS, and ran boot repair again, and now it defaults to windows again, I don't see grub screen, what...
[12:08] <bilel> ...can I do?
[12:08] <Ben64> if you don't like updating, go to 12.04, you only need to upgrade every 2 years with LTS
[12:08] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: the support schedules are clear
[12:09] <jimmy_lo> OK, thank you all
[12:10] <jimmy_lo> Wait a minute, so that's why it tells me that libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version.
[12:11] <jimmy_lo> so apt-get won't get anything new?
[12:11] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: 11.04 is from april 2011, it was likely the newest back then, the repos obviously have older software if you are using an older release
[12:11] <jimmy_lo> ;(
[12:20] <myrmidette> hello, what is a good way to transfer a single large file between two linux boxes on an unreliable connection?
[12:20] <Ben64> rsync
[12:21] <myrmidette> I tried that and it starts over if it gets interrupted :(
[12:21] <myrmidette> perhaps I was using it wrong?
[12:22] <ericus> Hey! I'm trying to set up a PPTP-VPN server, anyone with experience in doing that?
[12:24] <ericus> The connection to my VPN from my android device fails. "Initiation...", "Timeout"
[12:24] <ericus> Any log files I should have a look at?
[12:27] <TakeItEZ> ericus: sudo grep -ri pptpd /var/log/
[12:27] <CyL> Hi, I'm readind online about setting up a ubuntu box (12.04 LTS) as a LAMP server, and there is this article on how to do it using tasksel, however it is outdated (written for 10.04). I'd like to know if this is still a safe and easy approach.
[12:27] <heshanh> how do i point to another hard drive in ubuntu, it gives me the location as /media/Apps and Data/
[12:27] <ericus> Thanks TakeItEZ!
[12:27] <heshanh> but i need to use it in apache config. what do i replace the space with
[12:28] <TakeItEZ> ericus: and btw, pptp-vpn is highly insecure, you should try to use something more modern/safe (openvpn)
[12:28] <ThinkT510> heshanh: can you put it in ""
[12:28] <CyL> herton: /media/'Apps and Data'/ or /media/Apps\ and\ Data/
[12:28] <heshanh> ah
[12:28] <heshanh> thanks guys
[12:28] <thc-scripting> Hello, there are anyone can help me to write in english? (i'm italian)
[12:28] <ericus> TakeItEZ, yes I know about the insecurity, but my android phone does not allow OpenVPN
[12:28] <CyL> oops
[12:28] <ericus> IPSec is fine though
[12:29] <thc-scripting> i have translate my website in english , but i'm not sure it is corrected
[12:29] <CyL> heshanh: /media/'Apps and Data'/ or /media/Apps\ and\ Data/
[12:29] <ericus> Is that better?
[12:29] <TakeItEZ> ericus: gingerbread? update to ICS, no need for root to use openvpn anymore
[12:29] <ericus> TakeItEZ, ICS
[12:29] <GaboXandre> thc-scripting: maybe I can check the translation
[12:29] <TakeItEZ> ericus: check the playstore, there is a non-root app for android >4.0
[12:29] <iceroot> !ot | thc-scripting
[12:29] <heshanh> DocumentRoot /media/'Apps and Data'/www ?
[12:29] <Gabri> Hi, I have just recently installed ubuntu in my laptop, the fan of my computer is always working.
[12:29] <iceroot> thc-scripting: try ##english or something like that
[12:30] <thc-scripting> GaboXandre can i contact you on private?
[12:30] <ericus> TakeItEZ, oh thanks, I didn't know that
[12:30] <thc-scripting> in private*
[12:30] <TakeItEZ> ericus: "Openvpn for Android" it is
[12:30] <GaboXandre> thc-scripting: go ahead
[12:30] <Gabri> Is there anyway to optimize the ubuntu?
[12:30] <iceroot> Gabri: optimize for what?
[12:31] <Gabri> iceroot: The fan is always working
[12:31] <Gabri> although the system is in normal condition
[12:31] <iceroot> Gabri: a fan is never stopping when the system is running
[12:32] <Gabri> iceroot: I know, but it is running in full speed now
[12:32] <Gabri> iceroot: before it was not like this. (in windows era)
[12:32] <heshanh> DocumentRoot /media/'Apps and Data'/www  gives me DocumentRoot takes one argument, Root directory of the document tree
[12:32] <heshanh> Action 'configtest' failed.
[12:33] <iceroot> heshanh: /media/\ Apps\ and\ Data/www
[12:33] <Gabri> iceroot: Do you know what should I do?
[12:34] <iceroot> heshanh: but try to use normal path names instead of something like that
[12:34] <iceroot> Gabri: what is lm-sensors telling about the head?
[12:34] <Gabri> iceroot:
[12:34] <Gabri> let me see
[12:34] <heshanh> whats hte normal pather? is there  an easier way of pointing to a hard drive?
[12:34] <heshanh> path*
[12:34] <Gabri> iceroot: Should install any package?
[12:35] <Gabri> iceroot: it does not know this command
[12:35] <iceroot> Gabri: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors && sudo sensors-detect
[12:35] <iceroot> Gabri: after that you can see the fan info, heat and so on with "sensors"
[12:36] <iceroot> heshanh: its normal to avoid blanks in filenames
[12:36] <iceroot> heshanh: will always bring trouble
[12:36] <heshanh> so... rename the hard disk?
[12:37] <CyL> heshanh: You aslso could have it mounted on a mountpoint that does not have spaces in it. Ubuntu is probably using you harddrive label as th mounting point
[12:37] <iceroot> heshanh: or just quote it correctly
[12:37] <heshanh> yep, its use the label i have on windows
[12:37] <iceroot> heshanh:  i gave you an example
[12:37] <iceroot> heshanh: /media/\ Apps\ and\ Data/www
[12:37] <thc-scripting> GabrieleV sei italiano?
[12:38] <ThinkT510> !it | thc-scripting
[12:38] <heshanh> crap, i unmounted them from the left side bar and now i cant find them
[12:38] <thc-scripting> lool
[12:40] <Aknot> Anyone here use the ubuntu gnome remix? is it buggy?
[12:41] <jpds> Aknot: All software has bugs.
[12:41] <heshanh>  /media/\ Apps\ and\ Data/www does not work either
[12:41] <Aknot> jpds but compared to jsut installing ubuntu and then gnome shell from repos
[12:41] <arcsky> how do i make a user to root permissons?
[12:41] <iceroot> !sudo | arcsky
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh: is the drive mounted at the moment?
[12:42] <ThinkT510> heshanh: is there meant to be a space before apps?
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh: what is the output of "ls -all /media/"
[12:42] <iceroot> !paste | heshanh
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh:  ah yes it should be /media/Apps\ and\ Data/www
[12:42] <iceroot> heshanh: just replace every space with "\ "
[12:43] <iceroot> heshanh: or quote the complete line "/media/foo bar/www"
[12:47] <heshanh> ok quoting hte fille path worked :D thanks
[12:47] <ericus> any cool ideas on machines to run in virtualbox?
[12:48] <ThinkT510> ericus: haiku, helenos, minix
[12:49] <jimmy_lo> Hi
[12:50] <k1l_> ericus: since this is a ubuntu support channel: ubuntu ;p
[12:50] <jimmy_lo> I type command: sudo apt-get install cairo. It shows: E: Unable to locate package cairo
[12:50] <fidel> ericus: this is more or less a support-channel - n ot brainstorming ;)
[12:50] <jimmy_lo> I use ubuntu 11.04
[12:50] <fidel> !info cairo
[12:50] <k1l_> !eol | jimmy_lo
[12:50] <fidel> jimmy_lo: thinking aboutthe cairo dock thing or what in particular?
[12:50] <ericus> sorry :P
[12:50] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: if you are still on 11.04 we already told you it isn't supported anymore, the repositories do not exist anymore
[12:51] <jimmy_lo> OMG, everything is gone.
[12:52] <compdoc> I think the files still exist for 11.04, but they arent updated anymore
[12:52] <heshanh> is there way to check which apache is running? link the location of. i think i have more than one installed
[12:54] <erupter> Hi. Problem: I need to give two users write access to a folder on a machine, and have it propagated via NFS. Currently the original owner of the folder obviously has write access. The other user, has correctly mounted the NFS but has only read access.
[12:54] <heshanh> because even after i kill apache2 i can still view localhost
[12:54] <k1l_> compdoc: that is mentioned in the wiki articles. but recommended is to go to an supported release anyway
[12:54] <fidel> heshanh: you might start with: apt-cache policy apache2 - which will tell you the installed version via apt & the available in apt
[12:54] <erupter> I tried following some tutorials about adding users to groups and changing properties, but so far I only managed to eliminate read access not grant write access to the other user.
[12:55] <ThinkT510> jimmy_lo: any reason why you haven't got a supported release (please don't say you miss gnome2 or dislike unity)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> jimmy_lo, http://www.warpconduit.net/2011/07/31/apt-repository-for-old-ubuntu-releases/
[12:56] <heshanh> this is what i got from apt-cache http://pastie.org/5985678
[12:57] <heshanh> i also cant add files to the /var/www folder. i was going to do a phpinfo and see if it shows me anypaths for apache and php. but cant create any files
[12:57] <fidel> heshanh: do you understand the output?
[12:57] <heshanh> not really, if i'd have to guess theres 2 apache versions?
[12:59] <jhutchins_wk> heshanh: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[12:59] <heshanh> 12.04
[13:03] <fidel> heshanh: the output tells you that: you have the latest version. thats one info
[13:04] <bizhanMona> HI does ubuntu  support "hald" daemon? thx
[13:04] <fidel> if you havent heavily messed around and limited yourself on using apt only to install software - its highly unlikely that you have > 1 apapche version installed
[13:04] <fidel> heshanh: my next test would be stopping apache via: sudo service apache2 stop - and then check the running processes
[13:04] <jhutchins_wk> heshanh: Apache2 has been current since 2000.  1.3 is still available, but very few distributions release it.
[13:05] <jhutchins_wk> heshanh: If you have shut it down correctly, and ps ax does not show it running, you may have installed something else like ngenix
[13:05] <fidel> yep
[13:05] <Guest24813> Hi, Does anybody know why the fan rotates too fast when the system is normal condition?
[13:06] <heshanh> ok now its dead!
[13:06] <heshanh> i did /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, but that didnt work
[13:07] <TakeItEZ> !upstart | heshanh apache is an upstart-job
[13:07] <compdoc> heshanh, is there a files named apache2 in /etc/init.d/ ?
[13:07] <compdoc> *file
[13:07] <Guest24813> Hi, Does anybody know why the fan rotates too fast when the system is normal condition?
[13:08] <heshanh> thers a folder....
[13:08] <heshanh> im sure there are all noob questions. this is my first day on ubuntu.
[13:09] <compdoc> there is a file named /etc/init.d/apache2  - my bad
[13:09] <Ben64> heshanh: "service apache2 start" or "service apache2 stop"
[13:10] <heshanh> what exactly does etc stands for?
[13:10] <heshanh> and /var
[13:10] <heshanh> var -> variables?
[13:11] <TakeItEZ> heshanh: "etc ~ etcetera" historical "all other data" now "configs for most things"
[13:11] <TakeItEZ> heshanh: var ~ variable data
[13:11] <jimmy_lo> ThinkT510, I am going to upgrading ubuntu tomorrow. Thank you for help.
[13:11] <ThinkT510> !fhs | heshanh
[13:12] <heshanh> i see...
[13:12] <modris> i test ubuntu server 12.04 with ssd + hdd, and lvm snapshoots.
[13:13] <heshanh> also.. why cant i save any files i open inside /etc or /var. do i have to also do sudo gedit path? or is there way to open with sudo from the gui ?
[13:13] <ThinkT510> !gksudo | heshanh
[13:14] <TakeItEZ> heshanh: a user shouldn't write anywhere except hist $HOME and /tmp, all other locations need sudo/gksudo (root-rights)
[13:14] <TakeItEZ> s/hist/his/
[13:14] <modris> i'm newbie at lvm, Q: is possible create vg with ssd and hdd pv that hdd has full snapshoot from ssd for example after every 10min and if ssd crash at all i can get all back?
[13:15] <a_c_m> Hi, over the last few days several servers have had their disks go into "Read-only file system" mode
[13:15] <heshanh> oh man thank u so much. thats gona save so much time
[13:15] <a_c_m> any idea why this might happen?
[13:16] <ThinkT510> a_c_m: how old are the disks?
[13:16] <a_c_m> and a way to fix it (reboot does, but these are production boxes and i don't want to see this happen again)
[13:16] <a_c_m> ThinkT510: its a cloud system
[13:16] <Brittany> Trying to get a third party playstation controller working with ubuntu.. it's labelled 'snakebyte' and is a wired controller. anybody have any good ideas? There doesn't seem to be any specific support.
[13:16] <compdoc> a_c_m, a problem with the disk. open the disk utility and look at the drives health and SMART
[13:16] <a_c_m> so not sure
[13:16] <a_c_m> compdoc: its a cloud vps - so isn't a physical disk
[13:16] <mojtaba> Hi, I have recently installed ubuntu 12.10 and the fan of the laptop is going to be exploded. Does anybody know what should I do?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> a_c_m: it is a physical disk, its just under somebody elses control
[13:17] <compdoc> a_c_m, switching to read-only is an option in /etc/fstab
[13:17] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Take cover?
[13:17] <compdoc> a_c_m, maybe disable it
[13:17] <mojtaba> jhutchins_wk: what do you mean?
[13:18] <usr13> mojtaba: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/hardware/C/laptops.html
[13:18] <modris> i'm newbie at lvm, Q: is possible create vg with ssd and hdd pv that hdd has full snapshoot from ssd for example after every 10min and if ssd crash at all i can restore new ssd data back? link to explain may help
[13:19] <usr13> mojtaba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[13:19] <jhutchins_wk> a_c_m: That's a known problem with virtual systems.  The disk goes read-only when an error is encountered so that it won't be damaged by trying to write to it.
[13:19] <mojtaba> usr13: That does not contain the issue.
[13:19] <jhutchins_wk> a_c_m: You should be able to remount it rw.
[13:20] <usr13> mojtaba: What is your issue?
[13:20] <jhutchins_wk> a_c_m: We just run a monitoring program that detects when that happens so we can correct it.
[13:20] <a_c_m> jhutchins_wk: thanks, i'm opening a support ticket with the host now
[13:20] <mojtaba> usr13: first, the fan is rotating in full speed, and the battery life is short.
[13:20] <mojtaba> :)
[13:20] <usr13> mojtaba: Look at BIOS settings.
[13:21] <mojtaba> usr13: what should I look for?
[13:21] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Do you have cpufreq installed? If not install it and read the docs, it should help you throttle the system back.
[13:22] <mojtaba> jhutchins_wk: Actually, I did not have this problem in windows; I do not know why in linux this has happned!
[13:22] <usr13> mojtaba: The two links I gave you have information related to your issue, I suggest you follow those links and see.
[13:22] <mojtaba> usr13: I will. Thanks
[13:22] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Windows fails in different ways than linux does.
[13:23] <mojtaba> jhutchins_wk: could you please explain more?
[13:23] <jhutchins_wk> mojtaba: Follow the links usr13 gave you, that should explain.
[13:26] <a_c_m> thanks jhutchins_wk :)
[13:26] <a_c_m> jhutchins_wk++
[13:26] <mojtaba> usr13: sorry, but where is system in unity?
[13:27] <mmgc84> My Secret Maryo Chronicles ISNOT working on Xubuntu 1210 x(
[13:28] <madaramost> hi
[13:28] <madaramost> anyone
[13:28] <madaramost> ?
[13:29] <k1l_> !ask | madaramost
[13:30] <mmgc84> !patience
[13:30] <ThinkT510> !msgthebot | mmgc84
[13:33] <madaramost> ok I have prob wiht ubuntu/ment whene I open & work  just a few mins it spot to working
[13:34] <ThinkT510> madaramost: mint isn't supported here
[13:34] <madaramost> ok generally QU
[13:35] <k1l_> !mint | madaramost
[13:35] <k1l_> since mints uses other drivers and other desktops please see their support
[13:35] <madaramost> what about ubuntu?
[13:36] <madaramost> I have 12.10lts
[13:36] <k1l_> madaramost: can you pastebin a "lsb_release -a"?
[13:36] <ThinkT510> madaramost: 12.10 is not lts
[13:38] <usr13> mojtaba  /sys/devices/system/
[13:38] <madaramost> yeah sorry it is not
[13:38] <madaramost> 12.04
[13:39] <kracekumar> I installed squid3 and followed https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/squid.html, when I telnet to particular 3128 Get connection refused
[13:40] <kracekumar> !ubottu
[13:42] <yogeshwaran> hi
[13:42] <zykotick9> Brittany: when you plug the gamepad in, do you get a /dev/input/js0 appearing?
[13:42] <yogeshwaran> i need help installing ubuntu on a windows 8 laptop
[13:43] <yogeshwaran> anyonw there ?
[13:43] <yogeshwaran> hi all  !!
[13:43] <TakeItEZ> kracekumar: check "sudo lsof -i :3128",   does it listen at all?
[13:44] <fidel> !ask | yogeshwaran
[13:44] <yogeshwaran> @fidel | How to install ubuntu on a UEFI enabled laptop woth win 8 ?
[13:45] <yogeshwaran> @ubottu : ok :-)
[13:45] <fidel> yogeshwaran: first of all - ask the channel as long as it is a general thing. second:
[13:45] <fidel> !details | yogeshwaran
[13:45] <fidel> what have you tried/where is the problem....
[13:46] <kracekumar> TakeItEZ, No output , but quid3 start/pre-start, process 7805
[13:46] <kracekumar> but ps aux | grep 7805 doesn't show the process
[13:46] <TakeItEZ> kracekumar: check logs (sudo grep -ri squid /var/log/) for errors
[13:46] <yogeshwaran> I'm scared that I will lose my windows..i've read some horror stories of ppl who lost windows 8 after installing ubuntu.
[13:47] <yogeshwaran> are there any special precautions i need to take
[13:47] <szx> the manpages for getsockopt/setsockopt don't list available options, is this an Ubuntu issue?
[13:47] <pokkerface> ubuntu 12.10 unity 6.2 , how to show windows of the app when hovering over the icon in the launcher???
[13:47] <ThinkT510> !uefi | yogeshwaran
[13:47] <fidel> yogeshwaran: i havent tried dual-setup with win8 myself so far - best regarding fighting your fear is 'run a backup' before you start freeing space for ubuntu & continue to install it
[13:48] <kracekumar> TakeItEZ, /var/log/kern.log:Jan 31 14:47:49 aadukalam kernel: [6593385.319082] init: squ
[13:48] <kracekumar> id3 main process (8059) terminated with status 127
[13:48] <kracekumar> /var/log/kern.log:Jan 31 14:47:49 aadukalam kernel: [6593385.319107] init: squ
[13:48] <kracekumar> id3 main process ended, respawning
[13:49] <yogeshwaran> Ok ..thanks guys .. I'll check out the link and also take a backup before attempting anything adventurous
[13:49] <pokkerface> ubuntu 12.10 unity 6.2 , how to show windows of the app when hovering over the icon in the launcher???
[13:49] <compdoc> yogeshwaran, remove the hdd containing windows, pop in an ssd or laptop drive, and install linux. easy
[13:49] <fidel> !repeat | pokkerface
[13:50] <TakeItEZ> kracekumar: sounds like it fails to start, check configs again and try. sorry i don't know much about squid, so i can't really help you
[13:50] <yogeshwaran> @compdoc : i already have 32 gb of SSD in my laptop
[13:50] <kracekumar> TakeItEZ, Thanks
[13:53] <foolsh> kracekumar: make sure the cache directory exists and is initialized.  An easy way to do this is to install Webmin and look under the squid section there
[13:53] <TakeItEZ> !webmin
[13:53] <kracekumar> foolsh, any other alternates for squid, does varnish help ?
[13:54] <expert_> hey guys how to kill a not responding program?
[13:54] <TakeItEZ> bot, wake up
[13:54] <TakeItEZ> expert_: pkill progname
[13:54] <zykotick9> expert_: you've got choices: kill, killall, xkill (and others)
[13:55] <foolsh> kracekumar: I've only ever used squid
[13:55] <kracekumar> foolsh, ok
[13:55] <expert_> thanks guys
[13:56] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! i attached 2 monitor on my graphics board. now i see same thing on both display. howto set the extend, not cloned mode?
[13:56] <OrgMental> MoL0ToV, what version of windows are you using?
[13:57] <MoL0ToV> ubuntu 12.10
[13:57] <MoL0ToV> sorry, xubuntu
[13:57] <OrgMental> ops, wrong window :)
[13:57] <MoL0ToV> so xfce
[13:58] <Husar> Hi, i trying to connect my Nikon camera as MassStorage,  and get "hub 6-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" (it was working 2weeks ago :() - fix from google do not work - any suggestions?
[13:58] <OrgMental> http://askubuntu.com/questions/91221/how-to-tell-xubuntu-not-to-clone-but-to-expand-the-laptop-display-to-the-externa
[13:59] <MoL0ToV> tnx
[13:59] <shadow98> http://pastebin.com/RDd94n0q
[14:00] <juragan3> yo
[14:02] <ggherdov> Hi all. a couple of questions: (1) what is the Desktop Environment closest to Gnome 2 I can have on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS ? (2) What is the cleanest way to unstall Unity and replace it with said desktop environment?
[14:02] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: xfce is great, don't remove unity
[14:03] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: also gnome3 has a fallback mode
[14:04] <mahem1> #kabbadi-in-canada
[14:04] <ggherdov> ThinkT510: xfce isn't close enough to Gnome 2 for me. What I need more than everything is the upper panel, with system monitors for RAM, network, disk, system load. And Unity cannot run on my system: it's a virtualbox with very limited RAM and no graphic acceleration
[14:05] <shadow98> http://pastebin.com/tKqBTi2d
[14:05] <nuxninja> ggherdov
[14:05] <ggherdov> nuxninja: yes
[14:05] <nuxninja> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[14:05] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: i'm saying don't remove unity if it is already installed, it will leave a mess, i'm not saying you must use unity
[14:05] <Ben64> ggherdov: gnome fallback mode then, install gnome-panel and it should bring in everything you need for it
[14:06] <ggherdov> ThinkT510: understood. nuxninja , Ben64: thanks
[14:06] <ThinkT510> ggherdov: there are good plugins for xfce panels too
[14:06] <Ben64> not good enough, i wanted the same as ggherdov
[14:06] <ggherdov> ThinkT510: will check that, thankyou for the heads up
[14:07] <Ben64> theres no other panel that matches the cpu and ram system monitors
[14:07] <nuxninja> Ben64 agree you read my mid
[14:07] <nuxninja> mind
[14:08] <ggherdov> Ben64: The amount of memory leaks in my code that I debugged with those monitors, without even firing up valgrind... :-)
[14:10] <shadow98> rsync -n /home/brian/Desktop/ /run/user/bria
[14:10] <shadow98> n/gvfs/dav:host=www.box.com,ssl=true,user=briant97%40yahoo.com,prefix=%2Fdav/Desktop/
[14:10] <shadow98> skipping directory .
[14:10] <FloodBot1> shadow98: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <shadow98> i tried floodbot
[14:10] <shadow98> anybody have any ideas on why it would skip that directory
[14:10] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: use rsynx -nx
[14:11] <shadow98> TakeItEZ: same thing
[14:11] <shadow98> skipping directory
[14:11] <shadow98> that directory does not exist on the other end yet
[14:11] <shadow98> so not sure why it is skipping
[14:12] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: .gvfs (gnome virtual filesystem) is very special. do you want it being included?
[14:13] <shadow98> yeah that is where my webdav folder is located
[14:13] <shadow98> that is the only path i know to it
[14:18] <shadow98> TakeItEZ: any ideas?
[14:18] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: sry no
[14:19] <TakeItEZ> shadow98: i'm not using gnome, but isn't the real path ~/.gvfs? "ls -la ~/.gvfs/"
[14:21] <vimerrrrrrr> hi, anyone help me. my ubuntu 12.04 has to wait for network configuration for 2 minutes when boot up.
[14:22] <shadow98> /home/brian/.gvfs/: No such file or directory
[14:22] <iceroot> vimerrrrrrr: because you have setup something in /etc/network/interfaces and you are not controlling it with network-manager
[14:22] <shadow98> turn slow network boot off
[14:22] <shadow98> :)
[14:23] <vimerrrrrrr> iceroot, no it only has lo in interface
[14:23] <vimerrrrrrr> i tried the var/run link way, i left only lo in interface, and delete dbus files, no avail
[14:25] <shadow98> TakeItEZ: http://pastebin.com/RASBQapf
[14:25] <shadow98> check that out
[14:26] <RollinV2> i need a simple app for monitoring download and uploads over periods of time (a day to a month).. any suggestions? can be command line or gui based. thanks.
[14:27] <vimerrrrrrr> sorry but where is slow network boot conf?
[14:27] <GTAXL-iPod> RollinV2: use vnstat
[14:31] <persona24> Hey, I can't get the rm -rF/* command to work (and yes, I know what that command does). I'm running it as root. I don't understand why it won't work
[14:32] <martin___> persona24: What error message do you get ?
[14:32] <persona24> rm: invalid option -- 'F'
[14:32] <persona24> Try `rm --help' for more information.
[14:32] <TakeItEZ> persona24: man rm
[14:33] <GTAXL-iPod> I would'nt do that if I were you...
[14:33] <TakeItEZ> persona24: hint: linux systems are case sensitive
[14:33] <GTAXL-iPod> sudo rm -rf /
[14:33] <AppleJuice> Dont do it!!!
[14:33] <persona24> TakeItEZ: I tried it with a lowercase F and it still did nothing
[14:34] <k1l> persona24: see the manpage and read about preserve root. besides i dont see a issue for that command
[14:34] <TakeItEZ> persona24: f /     add a space
[14:34] <k1l> TakeItEZ: its perserve root in ubuntu
[14:34] <persona24> Alright, I'll try that command, if I don't comment back you know it worked haha
[14:35] <masoudd> masochism
[14:36] <vimerrrrrrr> hi, please anybody help with the boot up problem.
[14:36] <GTAXL-iPod> error is?
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> boot without full network configuration
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> I need to wait for 2 minutes every time
[14:37] <GTAXL-iPod> ahhhh
[14:37] <GTAXL-iPod> is it the desktop version?
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> yes! 12.04 lys
[14:37] <vimerrrrrrr> lts
[14:38] <GTAXL-iPod> are you using wifi?
[14:38] <vimerrrrrrr> no wired
[14:38] <GTAXL-iPod> hm
[14:38] <jhutchins_wk> vimerrrrrrr: How did you set up your networking?
[14:38] <vimerrrrrrr> lo only
[14:39] <vimerrrrrrr> no eth0 and wlan0 in interface
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> lo only is loopback
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> ok
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> so the computer has wlan?
[14:39] <GTAXL-iPod> so it has a wifi adapter
[14:40] <vimerrrrrrr> any other configurations that I miss?  I hard blocked my wifi on my computer
[14:40] <GTAXL-iPod> maybe disable the wifi adapter, and only use wired might speed the loading time up
[14:40] <GTAXL-iPod> vimerrrrrrr: the network thing shows on mine too
[14:41] <jhutchins_wk> vimerrrrrrr: What did you use to configure your networking?
 im not sure what u mean  Im newbie in ubuntu
[14:41] <miebster_atwork> I'm using kubuntu 12.10, I am seeing a warning every time I source bashrc, the warning is from a line that is included with the install ( I didn't add it) http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:42] <jhutchins_wk> vimerrrrrrr: What did you do to set up the network?
[14:42] <vimerrrrrrr> actually it seems i never have configured my networking since installation
[14:43] <vimerrrrrrr> jhutchins_wk: I havnt done any thing to my networking so far
[14:43] <Triups> One of my nics has a 50% chance of coming up as p33p2.  the other 50% of the time it comes up as rename3.  How do I stabilize this?
[14:44] <LadyNikon> wow lots of freenode spam today huh
[14:45] <ska> I just upgraded 12.04 and the microphone is no longer shows up.. Can I fix this on the commandline?
[14:46] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 starts in 14 minutes in #ubuntu-classrom
[14:47] <martin___> U
[14:47] <ska> USB device is missing.
[14:49] <martin___> If I need to find a directory but exclude /home, how do I do that easiest ? :)
[14:51] <TakeItEZ> martin___: find / -type d -not -iname '/home*' -name 'findme'
[14:51] <miebster_atwork> Something is wrong with my .bashrc file, it came this way when I installed the OS (kubuntu 12.10) http://paste.ubuntu.com/1593254/
[14:51] <vimerrrrrrr> any one using 12.04 LTS? do you have the 2-minute boot up problem?
[14:51] <martin___> Great, thx TakeItEZ :)
[14:53] <charis> Hi, today is the release of 12.04.2?
[14:54] <compdoc> charis, cool - hadnt heard that
[14:55] <k1l> charis: no
[14:55] <k1l> see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[14:56] <norris900> can anyone explain this command to me, sorry im a noob "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
[14:58] <djBuss> Hey guys, I can use apt-cache showpkg php5-cli to see which packages i can install but how do I install the specific package?
[14:59] <charis> sudo apt-get install php5-cli
[14:59] <djBuss> charis, but it won't install the package I selected
[15:00] <vimerrrrrrr> i love ubuntu! but the 2 minute boot up is going to kill me !!!! help ! anyone!!!!!!
[15:00] <djBuss> Provides:
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.1 - phpapi-20100525
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.4.6-1ubuntu1 - phpapi-20100525
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.5 - phpapi-20090626
[15:00] <djBuss> 5.3.10-1ubuntu3 - phpapi-20090626
[15:00] <FloodBot1> djBuss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <jrib> charis: apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION    but it's unusual to want to do that.  You should explain what you are trynig to do
[15:00] <jrib> djBuss: erm, that was for you ^
[15:01] <charis> When did the release slipped to February 14th?
[15:01] <djBuss> jrib, Yes, I want to have php5.3 on ubuntu 12.10
[15:01] <RollinV2> GTAXL-iPod, vnstat is perfect. thanks!
[15:01] <charis> last time i checked it was set for today
[15:01] <jrib> charis: what?
[15:01] <charis> is it because of the uefi patches?
[15:01] <jrib> charis: what release are you talking about?
[15:01] <k1l> charis: last time i checked in decembre it was 14.02.2013
[15:02] <charis> 12.04.2
[15:02] <djBuss> jrib, is it ok if I just want to have php 5.3 ?
[15:02] <apm1> i had a compositioning crash on 12.04 unity
[15:02] <charis> probably i am mistaken then :/
[15:02] <charis> sorry about that
[15:02] <jrib> djBuss: as long as you're sure security patches are being provided for it, I guess so.
[15:03] <GTAXL-iPod> np :)
[15:03] <djBuss> I'm not sure actually :d but thanks for the PACKAGE= tip
[15:05] <djBuss> jrib, should it work like this sudo apt-get install PACKAGE=5.3.10-1ubuntu3 php5-gd
[15:05] <djBuss> ?
[15:06] <Telespielstube> Hi, since I updated to ubuntu 12.04 my computer freezes every now and then.
[15:06] <jrib> djBuss: replace PACKAGE with the package name and VERSION with the version
[15:06] <djBuss> ohhhhhh right
[15:08] <djBuss> jrib, it worked thanks you
[15:11] <helmut_> hi
[15:14] <tfo> lol
[15:15] <yeehi> Does anybody know a good fitness program? For example calories eaten, burned, suggestions for different weight machines - that sort of thing...?
[15:17] <_helios_> I installed lm-sensors on my desktop to check the temp and for a PCI it's showing 6873.0C I know that has to be wrong because that would be hot enough to melt through the ground lmao
[15:18] <compdoc>  lm-sensors doesnt work with everything
[15:18] <compdoc> *every chipset
[15:18] <_helios_> compdoc: well it registers most of them correct just that one PCI it doesn't..lol
[15:19] <jhutchins_wk> _helios_: You can manually correct that.
[15:19] <_helios_> jhutchins_wk: how?
[15:21] <aminb> has anyone gotten MTP to work on 12.04?
[15:22] <fidel> !info mtp
[15:22] <aminb> I've tried EACH AND EVERY solution I could find on the net, but it doesn't work at all! :(
[15:22] <aminb> I even installed the latest version of libmtp which is libmtp1.1.5 but no use..
[15:23] <fidel> what 'mtp' are you talking about?
[15:23] <fidel> !details > aminb
[15:23] <fidel> ups - havent seen your line above sorry
[15:24] <aminb> mtp as in the protocol that android uses to transfer files
[15:24] <_helios_> jhutchins_wk: here is the http://pastebin.com/VqXtSPbv display I get how would I manualy correct this?
[15:25] <aminb> does any one have any solutions?
[15:25] <jhutchins_wk> _helios_: The documentation for lmsensors describes how the data is interpreted and explains how to alter a particular sensor's configuration.
[15:25] <theseus> anyone know why I always have to start lightdm manually when I boot into ubuntu?
[15:25] <_helios_> And where can I find the documentation for lmsensors?
[15:26] <roasted> Excluding fdisk, how would one change a partition type via terminal?
[15:26] <jhutchins_wk> aminb: Is mtp the "camera" protocol or the "mass storage"?
[15:26] <zykotick9> theseus: "sudo service lightdm start" perhaps?
[15:26] <jhutchins_wk> roasted: cfdisk.
[15:27] <theseus> zykotick9:  correct I have to do that every time I turn on my machine
[15:27] <frownface> Good morning.  Is this a good place to come for help?  Somehow, I lost ability to connect to my wireless router.  Though, I am able to connect to my cellphone tether via wireless just fine.
[15:27] <frownface> I'm confused.
[15:27] <theseus> zykotick9:  it should just start automatically
[15:27] <jhutchins_wk> theseus: Use update-rc.d, rcconf, or chkconfig to set it to start automatically.
[15:27] <zykotick9> theseus: oh, you need to add it to startup, i see.  sorry, i have no idea.
[15:28] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: none of those are upstart related... theseus
[15:28] <Tecan> is there anything to make usb/ip easier ?
[15:28] <frownface> Anyone?
[15:28] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: do you have an opinion on how that differs from sfdisk?
[15:28] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: They all work with upstart.
[15:28] <frownface> I wish I could set a beacon.
[15:28] <frownface> :)
[15:28] <frownface> LOOK, A GRAIL SHAPED BEACON
[15:28] <aminb> jhutchins_wk: well, android 4.x doesn't support mass storage any more and as far as I know, it only has the camera mode.
[15:31] <kostkon> aminb, MTP is not a camera mode, PTP is.
[15:31] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: upstart still determines what will start by the symlinkx in rc.<default>d, which are managed by those programs.
[15:32] <_helios_> jhutchins_wk: I've looked through the Documentation of lm-sensors not finding any information how to alter the output.
[15:32] <jorik_nk> как регатся?
[15:32] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i'm a big fan of rcconf (on d) but i'm not sure i'd want to use it on ubuntu... you're probably right.
[15:32] <aminb> kostcon: actually I'm not quite sure :/ when I connect my phone to my pc, in USB options settings in the phone there are two options. It is set on the first one. I don't have it handy right now to check again. I know i have to use mtp but i couldn't get it to work
[15:32] <KxTwo> Hey guys, is it still the consensus to get 12.04 instead of 12.10?
[15:33] <aminb> kostkon: actually I'm not quite sure :/ when I connect my phone to my pc, in USB options settings in the phone there are two options. It is set on the first one. I don't have it handy right now to check again. I know i have to use mtp but i couldn't get it to work
[15:33] <jhutchins_wk> roasted: It has a c in front of it instead of an s.  I always use fdisk 'cause that's what I learned in DOS 2.x
[15:34] <aminb> any ideas people? i seriously need to get this file transfer thing working :(
[15:35] <kostkon> aminb, UMS and MTP probably
[15:35] <kostkon> aminb, or PTP and MTP, but let me give you a link
[15:35] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: fdisk doesn't fly with GPT. And now that I did more digging on sfdisk, sfdisk isn't made for GPT either. I'm reading into cfdisk now.
[15:35] <jhutchins_wk> aminb: I guess I'm still on 4.1.1 - works great for me.
[15:36] <jhutchins_wk> roasted: Ah, for gpt you need parted.
[15:36] <aminb> kostkon: yeah sure. waiting
[15:36] <kostkon> aminb, you could try this: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[15:36] <aminb> jhutchins_wk: but how did you get it to work?
[15:36] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: I looked into parted many times, but I never understood exactly how I would change the partition type.
[15:37] <jhutchins_wk> aminb: literally just plugged the phone into the PC.  It was so simple I was sure something must be wrong, but it just worked.
[15:37] <aminb> jhutchins_wk: you're so lucky then :)
[15:37] <aminb> kostkon: thanks. I'm gonna give this one a try. I'll let you know
[15:37] <kostkon> aminb, ok
[15:38] <roasted> jhutchins_wk: I assume I'm just doing it wrong. I keep getting invalid token when I try to set the partition type.
[15:39] <zykotick9> roasted: if you have access to a GUI, gparted makes creating a GPT partition "fairly" straightforward (i've never done it with parted, i really do need to learn that program)
[15:39] <roasted> zykotick9: I know GParted is such a win. I'm trying to learn the CLI equivalent since I work with headless servers from time to time.
[15:40] <zykotick9> roasted: i hear ya.  prior to gpt, i was all fdisk... now i'm "stuck" with replying on a GUI program :(..
[15:40] <BluesKaj> what's the command to find which repos contains a certain package ?
[15:40] <zykotick9> s/replying/relying/
[15:41] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: "apt-cache policy foo" then look at the url is one method
[15:41] <roasted> zykotick9: Realistically speaking, I'll likely just boot to a LiveUSB session and set the partitions up there. Then fire up the server and assemble the RAID via ssh over terminal.
[15:41] <roasted> zykotick9: but that doesn't take away from my desire to, at the very least, learn the CLI equivalent.
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dpkg -l doesn't  list all
[15:42] <BluesKaj> ok zykotick9 thanks
[15:42] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: sorry, i may have misunderstood your question
[15:44] <BluesKaj> no , zykotick9 that command works :)
[15:45] <BluesKaj> zykotick9, , i should have remembered , but my memory leaves gaps over time
[15:46] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: oh how i wish i could remember half of what i've forgotten ;)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> it's a bummer at my age ..I'll add that to my cli-commands text file
[15:48] <Viral> can someone help me get the tty1-6 working?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> heh , it's already there , I didn't think it was listed
[15:48] <Viral> or, get them to show up on my screen
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt +f1-6
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Viral, ^
[15:49] <Viral> yeah, I know how to get to them. but nothing displays. however I can still login and type in commands
[15:49] <aminb> kostkon: thanks! it DID work!! however, it didn't work with rhythmbox. Isn't there a solution for that? :/ or a better way to sync music?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> nothing is suppoed to display except the login prompt
[15:50] <BluesKaj> Viral,^
[15:50] <Viral> I know that?
[15:50] <Viral> literally nothing shows
[15:50] <zykotick9> Viral: did they ever work?  are you using nvidia/ati?  did you try to change the resolution?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> so you don't see the  prompt
[15:51] <kostkon> aminb, nice. hmm, strange. in rhythmbox try the menu option Music → Scan Removable Media
[15:51] <Viral> zykotick9,  yes they worked before I installed nvidia display drivers
[15:51] <zykotick9> Viral: from nvidia.com?
[15:51] <Viral> zykotick9, correct
[15:51] <kostkon> aminb, to force it to do a new scan
[15:51] <zykotick9> Viral: good luck then.  don't reply to me futher.
[15:52] <Viral> 0/2 for useful help. great!!
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Viral, didn't the additional drivers work ?
[15:52] <aminb> kostkon: will give it a try. I'll be back and i'll msg you
[15:52] <kostkon> aminb, k
[15:54] <angs> is there any tool on ubuntu to transfer a file via serial connection, something like scp?
[15:55] <jim8888> im having trouble getting a listing of my partitions in MiB... does somebody know a command to do this?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> jim8888, sudo fdisk -l
[15:56] <BluesKaj> jim8888, or df -h
[15:56] <jim8888> BluesKaj: unfortunately that only shows me sectors or cylinders
[15:56] <compdoc> df -h
[15:56] <jim8888> BluesKaj: and i dont have the disks mounted so df -h does not help...
[15:57] <compdoc> gparted?
[15:57] <compdoc> parted?
[15:57] <jim8888> compdoc: and gparted lists them in sectors and GiB - no MiB!!
[15:57] <jim8888> compdoc: parted only has MB - not MiB ...
[15:58] <jim8888> its very frustrating
[15:58] <compdoc> how about disk utility? thats about the only one left
[15:58] <BluesKaj> jim8888, do your drives show up in nautilus places
[15:58] <roasted> Can someone explain alignment to me? I'm not sure I understand what it means, exactly. Let's say we'
[15:58] <compdoc> well, Im sure there are others you could install
[15:59] <roasted> Can someone explain alignment to me? I'm not sure I understand what it means, exactly. Let's say we're working with a 3TB hard drive. How important is alignment? I keep reading about starting off at sector 2048 or something, etc....
[15:59] <snaker> i am trying to install wireless samsung printer drivers in ubuntu. how do i do that?
[15:59] <snaker> 90% of the threads i find are shit
[15:59] <snaker> i have a CD
[15:59] <compdoc> roasted, larger drives use small 4k sectors, and if the partition isnt created at the right place, performance suffers
[15:59] <BluesKaj> isn't there a partition manager on gnome/unity ?
[16:00] <snaker> it has a .jar file in it
[16:00] <snaker> i cant run it
[16:00] <jim8888> yep just tried the built in ubuntu disk / partition managers but no joy...
[16:00] <roasted> compdoc: so it matters where the partition STARTS, not ends?
[16:00] <UbuntuNewbie> try gparted
[16:00] <compdoc> roasted, if you use a modern program like gparted to create the parttion, it will be correct
[16:01] <zykotick9> roasted: i didn't actually think alignment was such a big issue with HDs (though it was more a SSD issue?) but i could be wrong.  you might want to consult http://wiki.debian.org/SSDoptimization which discusses alignment and links to some youtube video explaining it.
[16:01] <roasted> compdoc: I ask this because I'm setting up a software array. I want to set my drives to have 100MB remaining. I was messing with gdisk and it asks me at the beginning where I want to start. So I select accordingly. But when it asks about ending, I have NO idea. I wasn't sure if the entire drive should be in specific intervals or what.
[16:01] <compdoc> roasted, I dont think it matters where it ends, but it might matter where 2nd or 3rd partitions on the same drive start
[16:01] <compdoc> I always use one large partition
[16:01] <roasted> perhaps I should stop with this CLI obsession and just use GParted. :/
[16:02] <compdoc> gparted is best
[16:02] <roasted> the documentation of a lot of these CLI tools is often half baked, whereas GParted is just kind of an instant winner.
[16:02] <snaker> i am trying to install wireless samsung printer drivers in ubuntu. how do i do that? i have the CD with the drivers, but not a single tutorial thread guide worked.
[16:02] <gmulak1> Snaker:  What is the Samsung, a printer?
[16:02] <compdoc> fdisk is too old
[16:02] <snaker> gmulak1: multi function printer
[16:02] <roasted> right - I was using gdisk
[16:02] <snaker> gmulak1: scanner printer etc
[16:02] <snaker> gmulak1: works perfectly on windows 7
[16:03] <gmulak1> Snaker:  Those can be hard.  Is the wireless working?  Properly?
[16:03] <snaker> gmulak1: yes, under win7 it is. its connected through the switch
[16:04] <snaker> theres a .jar file in the cd
[16:04] <snaker> but there are no threads that help
[16:05] <BluesKaj> jim8888, gparted should list the size of each disk/partition , unless they're encrypted ?
[16:05] <snaker> all threads say reinstall java blablabla etc etc
[16:05] <snaker> and then open it with java
[16:05] <snaker> does
[16:05] <snaker> not
[16:05] <snaker> work
[16:05] <FloodBot1> snaker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <gmulak1> Snaker:  But under Ubuntu?  You have to get the wireless working properly under Ubuntu first, I believe.  I have my Shuttle wired.  I was going to try NDIS wrapper next.
[16:06] <gmulak1> Snaker:  Have a call.  I have to go - sorry.  Someone will help you
[16:06] <ubuntu__> niil
[16:06] <ubuntu__> hello
[16:06] <snaker> gmulak1: oh, thanks. i ll try to fix it like that then have a nice day
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ...BBL
[16:09] <sabhain> anyone here using multiple monitors on 12.04?
[16:09] <Raj2013> jazzy
[16:09] <lemos> eai
[16:09] <lemos> hi
[16:09] <Raj2013> hello
[16:10] <Raj2013> lemos!
[16:11] <lemos_> do you like the ubuntu distro ?
[16:11] <karu_> Hey anyone know where linux drivers for intel gma 4500m is
[16:11] <karu_> I have to use nomodeset so that it doesnt boot to black
[16:12] <lemos_> run the additional drivers
[16:12] <lemos_> the drivers for intel
[16:12] <karu_> where
[16:12] <karu_> I'm new to this
[16:12] <roasted> as far as I know Intel's GPU drivers are open sourced, and therefore included within Linux without the need of going to Additional Drivers... whcih is normally the place to go for non-open source drivers, like Nvidia, AMD, etc....
[16:12] <lemos_> it's a app
[16:13] <lemos_> go in software center
[16:13] <roasted> Although the 4500 sticks out in my mind for some reason. I wonder if there was a bug resulting in that GPU to present a black screen.
[16:13] <roasted> You don't need to go to software center.
[16:13] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:13] <karu_> My friends tell me it's in the kernel
[16:13] <lemos_> and search
[16:13] <karu_> but it keeps booting to black screen
[16:13] <roasted> Additional Drivers is its own application within Ubuntu, outside of the software center.
[16:13] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:13] <karu_> unless I put in "nomodeset"
[16:13] <roasted> karu_: yes, Intel drivers are open source. Open source software is oten included into Linux (the kernel) by default.
[16:14] <lemos_> all the people here,is using the Ubuntu ?
[16:14] <karu_> Dunno what's going on
[16:14] <roasted> karu_: in short: There is, as far as I know, no reason to look for external drivers for Intel GPU's because they're already included by default.
[16:14] <karu_> Then why does it boot to a black screen
[16:14] <roasted> karu_: it booting to a black screen doesn't mean you don't have the driver, it just means there's an issue somewhere... maybe a bug? It's hard to say.
[16:15] <roasted> karu_: but you have the driver installed because you have the kernel installed because the kernel is part of the entire Linux system.....
[16:15] <roasted> karu_: so there are no additional drivers to get with the Intel GPU you have.
[16:15] <karu_> Well it says I'm using some veza graphics driver
[16:15] <roasted> I'm not sure. I've never had an issue with Intel so I can't really comment too much further. I just know you won't find any Intel drivers within Ubuntu Software Center or Additional Drivers.
[16:15] <karu_> This laptop resolution is 1366x768 or something like that
[16:16] <karu_> but it only goes upto 1280x720 in the graphics option
[16:16] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:16] <roasted> karu_: at the very least, I'd post on UbuntuForums.org (search fi rst, maybe somebody already found the answer) and let it stew for a bit to see what results you find.
[16:16] <karu_> Ok
[16:16] <roasted> karu_: sorry I can't help further, but I have almost 5,000 posts on the forums. IT's amazing how much help I've received over the years. It's why I keep coming back.
[16:18] <jhutchins_wk> karu_: Which kernel are you using?
[16:18] <karu_> ubuntu lts I think
[16:18] <karu_> not too sure  on what kernel means
[16:18] <karu_> 12.04
[16:19] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:19] <zykotick9> karu_: "uname -r" in a terminal will show your kernel version
[16:19] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> karu_: uname -r will give you the kernel revision.
[16:20] <karu_> ok
[16:21] <karu_> 3.2.0-36-generic
[16:21] <varunv> #vrtroopers
[16:21] <ignerous> anyone help
[16:21] <ignerous> anyone help
[16:21] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:22] <jhutchins_wk> !repeat | ignerous
[16:22] <karu_> hutchins have you got anything
[16:23] <karu_> if not thanks for helping anyway
[16:23] <jhutchins_wk> karu_: You could check  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[16:24] <karu_> whats that for
[16:26] <karu_> What do I do with this page?
[16:28] <ignerous> can anyone?
[16:28] <Catbuntu> Hi
[16:28] <Catbuntu> One question.
[16:28] <Catbuntu> I've installed Cinnamon and then I setted Nemo to be the default archive manager.
[16:28] <darkfrog> how do I save settings to ufw?
[16:28] <Catbuntu> Now I setted Nautilus as the default archive manager again, with the xdg commands, but Nemo still handles the desktop.
[16:28] <Catbuntu> How can I set Nautilus to handle it instead of Nemo?
[16:29] <darkfrog> I've added allow for some things but how do I make sure they will be re-applied at reboot?
[16:29] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10
[16:29] <Catbuntu> Oh, I fixed it.
[16:29] <Catbuntu> I just had to disable it on Gnome tweak tool and then enable it again.
[16:29] <Catbuntu> :)
[16:31] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10  pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:31] <ignerous> can anyone?
[16:34] <ShaneO> Hi guys could someone assist me with a PEM pass phrase error... I created a self signed cert for using my VMWare WSX... when I try to go to the address the terminal asks me to enter the pem passphrase but it will not take any input... when i eneter the pass and hit enter it just says "command not found" any suggestions on how to resolve this
[16:35] <ignerous> how to customize the clock applet in ubuntu 12.10  pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:36] <sabhain> ignerous: what do you want to customize?
[16:37] <isi> Im quite the linux noob here, but ive got myself a mediabox with ubuntu and xbmc installed and xbmc freeze at exit, ive googled it and apparently the issue is i have to downgrade libgl-7.10.3 to libgl-7.10.2, and havnt figured out how I do that, anybody got any suggestions?
[16:38] <morgium> hello!
[16:39] <morgium> im using spamassassin+postfix on ubuntu 10.04LTS, every 3 hours i get a mail containing "config: path "/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001" is inaccessible: Permission denied config: path "/var/lib/spamassassin/3.003001/languages" is inaccessible: Permission denied", sent by user amavis. now my question: as which user is the command run? i chowned the /var/lib/spamassassin to amavis, no solution
[16:42] <ignerous> sabhain: something like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/how-to-customize-the-clock-applet-in-ubuntu
[16:42] <jcamfield> Greetings all - I've managed to completely disable my touchpad (Alps, was getting ID'd as a PS/2 only).  I've tried restoring the original psmouse.ko, but even post-reboot am having no luck.  Help?
[16:42] <jcamfield> (Ubuntu 12.10, 64bit, Dell Lat e6430, was following http://resalxh.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/ubuntu-12-04-lts-x64-the-next-step-getting-touchpad-working/ , and then the psmouse-dkms option
[16:43] <sabhain> ignerous: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/how-to-add-other-timezones-to-ubuntus-clock-applet
[16:43] <ignerous> sabhain: have you looked at the link?
[16:44] <invariant> Can anyone tell me how to get Skype working under Ubuntu? It segfaults and it displays: bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused.
[16:44] <sabhain> ignerous: that's for an older version, I think it's the gnome2 clock.  You probably need to be looking at something newer
[16:45] <ignerous> sabhain: can it be customised like the previous?
[16:46] <sabhain> ignerous: what have you tried?
[16:46] <dartos> How can I get Rythmbox to import all the music in my music folder?
[16:47] <ignerous> sabhain: no because i am not habituated with the codes
[16:48] <sabhain> ignerous: what specifically do you want to customize?
[16:48] <jongbergs> !topic
[16:48] <ignerous> sabhain: only the clock applet it really looks good
[16:49] <madaramost> ubuntu just stop of working I dont have any idea plzz help
[16:49] <ignerous> sabhain: can you help me?
[16:49] <lkzone> hi
[16:49] <lkzone> somebody can help this one
[16:49] <lkzone> http://bpaste.net/show/TxZby4wCUB5moEBCE1lE/
[16:49] <sabhain> ignerous: I don't know how to if you don't tell me what you want to change
[16:51] <lkzone> http://bpaste.net/show/TxZby4wCUB5moEBCE1lE/      how i fix IT ?
[16:51] <ignerous> sabhain: i want to make date over time and to decrease the font size like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Top-Expanded-Edge-Panel_015-copy.png
[16:52] <Catbuntu> hmm
[16:52] <Catbuntu> Nautilus is crashing and it stops managing the desktop when it crashes.
[16:54] <sabhain> ignerous: I see.  I'm not sure how that is done.  I'd recommend posting it over at ubuntu forums, with the link you provided.  The link you provided is for a different clock applet, not the current applet I believe
[16:55] <sabhain> ignerous: but make sure you specifically ask about the font size, and the stacking of the date.  It will help you get your answer.  "customizing the clock applet" could mean dozens of things.
[16:56] <madaramost> how I fix it
[16:59] <rexwin_> what linux software available to play embedded video on linux system installed as VPS?
[16:59] <marko-_-> I have an USB flash here which contains some files a friend asked me to retreive. The USB seems to be working fine (light turns on and everything). I can see it in /dev under sdb and mount tells me it's mounted on /mnt but there are no files and it doesn't really look mounted... what should i do? I force mounted it. When i try to mount it normally it says mount: block device /dev/sdb is write-protected, mounting read-only mount: you must specify the
[16:59] <marko-_-> filesystem type
[17:01] <daniele> http://xdcc_CANCEL_X1359651609
[17:02] <rexwin_> what linux software available to play embedded video on LAMP server?
[17:03] <rexwin_> can i install software to play video?
[17:04] <zykotick9> marko-_-: sdb is a device, not a partition.  you might want to try testdisk/photorec to recover partitions/files.
[17:07] <lkzone> http://bpaste.net/show/TxZby4wCUB5moEBCE1lE/      dbus error or qt-dbuss error somebody help
[17:07] <jrtappers> Is there a way to keep two X sessions running at once?
[17:08] <zykotick9> jrtappers: "keep"?  you can run 2 Xorg sessions at teh same time, BUT shouldn't be the same user!
[17:08] <jrtappers> zykotick9,  I can get them running, but changing with ctrl+alt+f8/7 pauses the other
[17:09] <zykotick9> jrtappers: sound you mean?  how can you tell it's paused?
[17:09] <jrtappers> zykotick9, I have 3 screens, 2 off integrated, 1 off internal, the drivers don't work together so two x sessions is needed
[17:10] <jrtappers> zykotick9, If I go from f7 to f8 then it blanks f7, but the other way leaves them both on, with f8 frozen
[17:10] <zykotick9> jrtappers: oh, i gotcha.  i was thinking 2 Xorgs on one monitor.  sorry, i have no experience with separate X.
[17:11] <jrtappers> zykotick9, I have that working, its just the pausing thats annoying, any ideas?
[17:11] <zykotick9> jrtappers: sorry, no idea... good luck.
[17:12] <jrtappers> zykotick9, Thanks, I have been trying to fix this for a while, but I feel close to the solution now, any ideas where to ask?
[17:13] <zykotick9> jrtappers: you mean other tehn here?  not really... you could try ##linux perhaps.
[17:13] <jrtappers> zykotick9, thanks, il try there
[17:13] <ignerous> sabhain: ok can you help me
[17:14] <ignerous> sabhain: do you know how to do this
[17:14] <jose106> how do I know what shell I'm using from the terminal?
[17:14] <lucis> Hey guys, im pretty now to network adminstration, and am studying atm. I managed with rsyslog to store my log files from local0 into my mysql database. now based on facility i can see what he maps. but is there a file somewhere that tells me what applications map to local0, and where i can add remove applications that log to local0?
[17:15] <zykotick9> jose106: "echo $SHELL"
[17:15] <xangua> ignerous: you did read that is for gnome2 right¿
[17:15] <andre> !list
[17:17] <lucis> as far as i understand it now, daemons log the log files to a certain local file. can i see a list of which daemons map to which locals?
[17:17] <jose106> zykotick9, that gave me /bin/bash
[17:17] <zykotick9> jose106: that's you shell!
[17:18] <zykotick9> jose106: use "echo $TERM" to find what terminal you are using.
[17:18] <jose106> xterm
[17:19] <gmulak1> jose106:   # echo $SHELL
[17:19] <jose106> zykotick9, my bad, I meant desktop environment
[17:19] <zykotick9> jose106: don't know... good luck.
[17:22] <xrs> my sound has stopped working.
[17:22] <xrs> all the mixers are turned up
[17:23] <maicon> olá
[17:23] <lucis> ill try to rephrase myself. if in rsyslog.conf i define local0 => ommysql, it stores data in my mysql. local0 is user defined. well, i simply want to know what that local0 contains, where to find any info on it, what it is.
[17:23] <gmulak1> jose106:  I am not quite sure myself.  I think it is just like winsoz.  It's sort of how it looks.  Try this:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/65083/what-different-desktop-environments-and-shells-are-available
[17:24] <maicon> can you help me?
[17:24] <xrs> what is the issue
[17:24] <Refefer> What's a safe way to unmount a usb sound card?  currently whenever I pull it out, it causes a kernel panic
[17:25] <jose106> gmulak1, I'll check it out. Thanks
[17:25] <invariant> How can I configure my microphone?
[17:25] <ignerous> xangua: no it is for unity
[17:25] <zykotick9> jose106: i'm not sure this is gonna work, but you can try "sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager" just don't change anything.
[17:25] <ignerous> sabhain: do you know how to do this
[17:26] <gmulak1> jose106:  No problem.  Let us know if that helps.  Are you going to SCaLE?  So. Calif Linux Expo in LA of Feb 22-24?
[17:26] <jrtappers> Is there a known problem with the AMD beta drivers causing blanking? 7770
[17:26] <xangua> ignerous: it is not
[17:27] <aminb> hey guys, can anybody please help with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/249922/not-returning-focus-to-previously-focused-window
[17:27] <ignerous> sabhain: can it be done for unity?
[17:27] <jose106> gmdeux_, No. I'd love too. Maybe next year
[17:28] <ignerous> sabhain: no code for this customisation? :(
[17:28] <UlyssesGa> Hi there!  Repeat question from yesterday.  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).
[17:28] <UlyssesGa> If Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.
[17:28] <gmulak1> jose106:  SCaLE is always in LA and always February.  It's very informative.  BTW askubuntu.com is also a help.  Come back though!
[17:29] <jose106> gmdeux_, Thanks
[17:29] <UlyssesGa> I was running Win7/Ubuntu but then upgraded to Win8.  Win7/Ubuntu (in the configuration noted above) functioned OK.  I ran update-grub
[17:29] <trism> ignerous: it works if you use gnome classic, so it isn't an indicator-datetime bug, it's an issue with how unity sends widgets, not really fixable without some considerable changes to the unity code
[17:29] <UlyssesGa> here's the boot-repair data: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591745/
[17:29] <ignerous> trism: welcome back
[17:29] <ignerous> trism: :)
[17:30] <barfod> is there a recommended way to set up a debootstrap install ? I am having trouble getting /etc/fstab , grub etc correct
[17:31] <barfod> like an official walkthrough or something , would be nice. tons of crappy articles written on it
[17:31] <gmulak1> trism:  I like a lot of features of Unity.  I function better in gnome though.  I will say, when I changed back to gnome I missed a lot of stuff in Unity.
[17:32] <aminb> anybody? please? :/
[17:34] <nicobn> what is the best way to redirect a local port to a vm in ubuntu ?
[17:34] <PrincessLuna> Is it possible to install Ubuntu on one partition / and have both /var and /home on a different (but common) partition?
[17:35] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: i don't think so.  you'd need /var and /home to be on separate partitions, so you can mount them properly.
[17:36] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: perhaps you could link them... but i wouldn't recommend it.
[17:37] <PrincessLuna> If I am installing Ubuntu on a tiny SSD and a large HDD, what should I keep in the HDD to save space apart from /home and /var ... I was thinking of installing in a 5gb ssd partition
[17:38] <ignerous> trism: the "\n" works but the the font size cannot be decreased
[17:38] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: good luck with that.  5GB really isn't enough space for / (for ubuntu anyways)
[17:39] <isi> how to downgrade libgl-7.10.3 to libgl-7.10.2?
[17:39] <PrincessLuna> zykotick9: Well, not the whole Ubuntu, ubuntu minimal with light kde and what I need
[17:39] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: "light kde" that's funny.  best of luck.
[17:40] <PrincessLuna> zykotick9: Well I have 24GB of SSD space I would love to try to squeeze in Ubuntu and Windows 8 in it. The high capacity ssd's are insanely expensive!
[17:40] <kdsmain> I know there's a LDAP channel, but nobody seems to be awake in it, so forgive me for asking, but with OpenLDAP, is the /etc/ldapscripts/ldapscripts.passwd really just supposed to say "secret"?
[17:41] <Plebeu> hi
[17:41] <zykotick9> PrincessLuna: you said the majic word - i won't see your posts further.  good luck to you.
[17:41] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: No specific knowledge, but "secret" is often used as a placeholder for an actual password.
[17:42] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: Have you checked /usr/share/doc/openldap/README.Debian?
[17:42] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: Not yet, just the ldapadd man page
[17:43] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: I don't seem to have such a directory in /usr/share/doc
[17:47] <bradlee> thank god for teh google
[17:47] <bradlee> whoops
[17:49] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: Look for something similar - pretty much every package drops a folder there.
[17:49] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>
[17:50] <Thetawaves_> has anybody reported problems with linux-image-3.5.0-22-generic for amd64?
[17:50] <jhutchins_wk> kdsmain: Failing that, I'd look for ldap docs on the ubunutu web page - and obviously it's not going to be .Debian (D'Oh!)
[17:51] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: I see, yeah there are a couple of ldap-related folders in /usr/share/doc. Regardless, I got a different error by changing the /etc/ldapscripts/ldapscripts.passwd from secret to the actual password. So at least it's not an authentication error! Whee...
[17:52] <kdsmain> jhutchins_wk: Thanks for the pointer
[17:52] <rvgate> Last night i've closed the lid of my laptop running ubuntu... Now i open it again and the only thing i see is a "_" in the top left on a black screen... Key combinations dont work, not even the power button.. it just sits there doing absolutely nothing.. what am i doing wrong ?
[17:54] <root-_Plebeu> eae
[17:54] <root-_Plebeu> alguem do brasil ae
[17:59] <TheGrey> a quick wifi question: it seems that all my wifi traffic is stuck at 500 KiB/s...I'm currently torrenting a file and if I open a webpage streaming video, my torrent speed drops. In my conky network stat; the 500 KiB/s remains equilibrium...Whereas on Speedtest my reported speed is 5-6 Mbit/s. Can anyone explain/help me?
[18:00] <jrib> TheGrey: bits vs. Bytes perhaps?
[18:01] <nanashiRei> o/ everyone. Quite new to using a non windows system for work and i've googled my fingers bleeding. Is there a way to really disable the password prompt or increase the cache time?
[18:01] <nanashiRei> tbh, it's worth then back in Vista days :(
[18:01] <jrib> nanashiRei: yes, but what are you doing that requires you to enter the password so often?  It seems unusual
[18:02] <nanashiRei> Just the fact that i do have to enter it again after login into my account which is not automatic makes it a hassle in my eyes.
[18:03] <jrib> nanashiRei: well again, what are you doing that you're being asked for a password?
[18:04] <nanashiRei> And and i'm a fan ob shell scripts that i can click to enable and disable my development environment, so these require a password. I got rid of the shell prompt with the usual NOPASSWD: sudo thing
[18:05] <nanashiRei> And i kinda answesered the question you ask with the fact that i'm new to this kind of environment. So i am trying all kinds of software packages
[18:05] <nanashiRei> and ... there is 5 Minutes, ofc, between installs.
[18:05] <nanashiRei> It's interrupting my workflow pretty badly :<
[18:07] <nanashiRei> i see how disabling woud be a security risk if i had ssh installed or someone would ever gain access to that notebook, but that's not going to happen since it's mounted to my desktop :x
[18:07] <jrib> nanashiRei: you can keep a terminal around with "sudo -i", that will give a you shell where you can install things and such.  You can disable the password altogether with NOPASSWD in sudoers as you mention, but I wouldn't advise it. You could also increase the cache time... IMO you'll run out of things to install soon enough :)
[18:08] <nanashiRei> But, isn't this kinda backwards, i like ubuntu, no question. But Windows 7 and Windows 8 even are less annoying in that aspect :/
[18:09] <Zeid> hi guys
[18:09] <nanashiRei> Still there is nothign better then linux to administrate other linux systems :D
[18:09] <nanashiRei> ing*
[18:09] <Zeid> i'm a newbie in ubuntu and i have a couple of questions
[18:09] <jrib> nanashiRei: backwards in what way?  It shouldn't be necessary to do administrative tasks every 10 minutes so that it gets annoying
[18:09] <XtremeWiz> Zeid: Like?
[18:10] <Zeid> i want to install ubuntu but my pc is conected to a plasma tv
[18:10] <kvothetech> Zeid: which prevents installation why
[18:10] <nanashiRei> jrib: i'm used to dealing with Servers. And by default i enter them with a SSH Key... so there is 1 prompt per system startup (Pagent) and that's it :x
[18:11] <kanikilu> nanashi
[18:11] <jrib> nanashiRei: presumably you'd still enter the password when you sudo?
[18:11] <Zeid> so what about the drivers cuz i tried once to install it and when the installation begins it gives NO SIGNAL
[18:11] <nanashiRei> In general i don't even make use of sudo.
[18:12] <nanashiRei> other than elevating me to root with it.
[18:12] <Zeid> so i cant see whats going on!!
[18:12] <nanashiRei> Zeid, finish the installation. And don't use hardware from 1999 :D
[18:13] <nanashiRei> j/k after installation there is non-opensource drivers at your disposal
[18:13] <jrib> nanashiRei: that's fine.  You can do that if you are in the situation where you need to do a series of things as superuser (with "sudo -i").
[18:14] <Zeid> cool so the installation process will go smooth?! right!
[18:14] <ExxKA> Hey guys, I am using apt-get to install nodejs, but I can only select between version 0.6.12 and 0.8.18, but on launchpad I see version 0.6.19 and that is the usual version. How do I go about getting it?
[18:14] <nanashiRei> that brings me to the question, can i not just start my session with sudo? \o/
[18:14] <nanashiRei> ExxKA: install from git.
[18:14] <nanashiRei> really.
[18:15] <jrib> ExxKA: what ubuntu version?
[18:15] <jrib> nanashiRei: that would be *bad*.  You don't want to run things as superuser unless you have to
[18:15] <ExxKA> nanashiRei, I would prefer apt-get if that is possible, because I am using chef for the installation
[18:15] <ExxKA> jrib, 12.04 LTS
[18:16] <nanashiRei> chef... reminds me of scalarizer horror -_-
[18:16] <Zeid> and i have another questions regarding sat card skystar 2 will it work ?!
[18:17] <jrib> ExxKA: link to launchpad?
[18:18] <barfod> \o -.    ---->    \o>-.     ---->      \_-.
[18:18] <jrib> ExxKA: I see 0.6.19 in quantal, but not precise.  That's probably what you are seeing
[18:18] <nanashiRei> launchpad... i was like (O_O) when i saw "ssh-import-id"
[18:18] <drangeo> Hello, I am having issues with intel ivy bridge and ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[18:19] <ExxKA> jrib, Thanks for taking an interest. What is the difference between quantal and precise?
[18:19] <nanashiRei> don't do ssh-import-id nanashi-rei if you don't want me lirking around :D
[18:19] <jrib> ExxKA: precise is the codename for 12.04 and quantal is the codename for 12.10
[18:19] <Zeid> skystar 2 anyone can help?
[18:19] <ExxKA> Well.. I suppose what I wanted to say is, is quantal the standard version?
[18:19] <ExxKA> Right
[18:20] <jrib> ExxKA: 12.04 is the latest LTS release, 12.10 is the latest release
[18:20] <ExxKA> That is unlucky
[18:20] <drangeo> Can anyone help me with 12.04 and intel ivy bridge? I get GPU hung errors, and the screen freezes
[18:20] <ExxKA> So I will have to build it from source?
[18:20] <Zeid> skystar 2 anyone can help?
[18:21] <nanashiRei> ExxKA: it's easy. There is git-hook solutions for this :)
[18:21] <ncsquid22> Zeid: whats the problem?
[18:21] <Zeid> will it work on ubntu?
[18:22] <jrib> ExxKA: you can look for a ppa, look into backporting it (either request or do it yourself), or you can upgrade to 12.10 :)
[18:22] <jrib> !backport | ExxKA
[18:24] <OerHeks> Zeid, wiki says it should work >> http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TechniSat_SkyStar_2_TV_PCI_/_Sky2PC_PCI
[18:25] <threex5> Hi could someone explain to me why my clipboard is so unreliable? It seems like when I copy something, image or text, It doesn't replace what's already in the clipboard half the time and I have to copy it 2 or 3 times to make it work.
[18:26] <jrib> threex5: perhaps you close the application before you paste?  You may want to look into a clipboard manager
[18:26] <Guest3920> hello
[18:26] <threex5> huh
[18:27] <threex5> ok does that uninstall ubuntu's built in clipboard manager?
[18:27] <jrib> threex5: does it have one by default?
[18:27] <threex5> ubuntu's documentation says that clipboard persistence is a known bug. they recommend parcellite
[18:27] <Guest3920> bye
[18:28] <Zeid> OerHeks, cheers
[18:28] <jrib> threex5: sure, that's a good one
[18:28] <threex5> I mean I assume if ubuntu can copy/paste, there's a built in clipboard manager by default. Should I remove that?
[18:29] <jrib> threex5: nah, the apps are responsible for what's in the clipboard, that's why if you copy something, close the app, then try to paste somewhere else, you won't get anything
[18:30] <jrib> threex5: parcellite does some nice things.  You can sync your two clipboards, you can make actions, you get a history.  It's probably worth it if you use your clipboard a lot
[18:30] <threex5> ok i'll try parcellite. do you think it's nicer than glipper?
[18:30] <jrib> threex5: I don't know.  Try both in turn and see which you like
[18:30] <kanikilu> threex5: not sure if it applies, but when I copy some text (for example), then before pasting, do something like click-and-drag a file in nautilus to move it, the previous copied text is gone
[18:30] <kanikilu> ...is there any pattern like that for you, or just random?
[18:31] <ExxKA> Thank you all, I will look into backports
[18:31] <threex5> kanikilu, good to know. I haven't noticed that specifically, but I'll keep that in mind
[18:32] <isi> how to downgrade libgl-7.10.3 to libgl-7.10.2? apparently that will solve the xbmc freeze on exit "bug"...
[18:36] <jhutchins_wk> !downgrade
[18:37] <jhutchins_wk> isi: I think that's meant to apply to a whole-system downgrade.  Not sure if there's a package downgrade capability like with yum.
[18:37] <isi> isee..
[18:38] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, how do I check what sound driver is currently installed?
[18:38] <jrtappers> How do I change between a propietary driver and an open source driver easily?
[18:39] <adamk> You remove the proprietary one and reboot.
[18:40] <jrtappers> adamk, Is there a way to switch between them? Xorg.conf or some other way?
[18:40] <solars> hey, is there an ubuntu installer download that fits a cdrom? 700mb
[18:40] <jrtappers> adamk, I need prop. for games and open for using multiple screens
[18:40] <adamk> jrtappers: The proprietary drivers install a kernel module and overwrite the open source OpenGL library and GLX extension.
[18:41] <adamk> So, really, there is no easy way to switch between them, certainly not without a reboot and replacing those pieces.
[18:41] <OerHeks> solars, minimal iso > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[18:41] <jrtappers> Ok
[18:43] <JokesOnYou77> How do I check what sound driver is currently installed?
[18:43] <gmulak1> rvgate:  I have had this happen in diff OS (espesially windoz) when it goes into sleep mode which is not playing well with the OS on wakeup.  It is usually a driver issue.  Search on that in google.  Let us know if that helps
[18:45] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, what is your problem
[18:45] <JokesOnYou77> I'd like to install alsa drivers from the realtek site but I want to know what's currently installed first
[18:46] <BiPolah> I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 minimal in a VM using WMWare Player on Windows 7. I'm running the network in bridged mode, and when I spin up the VM my newtork connection in Windows 7 fails. Could anybody help me with this?
[18:46] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[18:46] <gmulak1> rvgate:  Does what I said help your issue with nothing on the laptop?
[18:46] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, you are having sound problems?
[18:47] <monst> hello
[18:47] <gmulak1> Guess not!  :-)
[18:47] <gmulak1> monst:  hello
[18:47] <monst> have a question about an ubuntu issue
[18:48] <kostkon> !ask | monst
[18:48] <monst> my error is "glance-common : Depends: python-glance (= 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0) but 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1.1~cloud0 is to be installed"
[18:48] <kostkon> :P
[18:48] <monst> it says to run apt-get -f install to fix
[18:48] <monst> when I run that it wants to upgrade glance
[18:48] <monst> I DO NOT want to upgrade Glance
[18:48] <monst> how can I get rid of the error without upgrading?
[18:48] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I hear crackling and noise when there is no sound playing.  I'd like to get rid of that.  Installing new sound drivers fixed the same problem in my windows install
[18:49] <cvsdave> Is  Ubuntu documentation at https://help.ubuntu.com/community commonly out of date?
[18:50] <gmulak1> monst:  I do not know, sorry.   Just put it out there and try askubuntu.org.  Search for an answer there if no response here--sorry
[18:50] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, check the output of:  aplay -l
[18:51] <gmulak1> monst:  just state the question again, all at once....
[18:51] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I got devices, no driver info
[18:52] <cvsdave> Is there a better channel for documentation questions?
[18:52] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, what kind of info do you want exactly?
[18:52] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, the current sound driver version on my system
[18:54] <IOmegaZ> hi
[18:54] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, hmm
[18:54] <dvz-> lo there
[18:54] <t0th_-> hi
[18:54] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[18:57] <snaker> http://i.imgur.com/a9MB50f.jpg
[18:57] <snaker> hi
[18:57] <snaker> oops
[18:57] <snaker> wrong channel nvm
[18:57] <FloodBot1> snaker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:58] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, is it a realtek or an intel card?
[18:58] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, is't integrated, but I'm pretty sure it's realtek
[18:59] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, do you want ot give the output of aplay -l
[19:00] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, if you would like to give it
[19:00] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, you can paste it at paste.ubuntu.com
[19:01] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1593863/ I see what you mean.  It does say intel
[19:03] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, right. so, it could be the classic power save problem: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-tip-how-to-fix-crackling-noise-on-hda-audio-cards-in-ubuntu-9-10.html or this here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/PositionReporting. you could try both. start with the former
[19:05] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, Cool, thank you.  I'll take a look and try and get back to you after reboot (as I'm guessing cconfig changes won't take effect til after reboot)
[19:05] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, ok. yes, reboot after applying the changes
[19:07] <yva> hi are there some default limits in the amount of ram and cpu ubuntu allows apache and mysql to use?
[19:07] <flintser>  http://paste.ubuntu.comhttp://i.imgur.com/a9MB50f.jpg
[19:07] <ericus> Does anyone have link to a good guide for setting up a OpenVPN server on Ubuntu Server?
[19:10] <foolove> I am having difficulty getting my bluetooth headset to work
[19:10] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, alsa-base.config makes no mention of power-save anywhere and I don't think it's the second option as the problem isn't with playback with with static noise
[19:10] <foolove> it seems to pair but when i go to sound preferences it says waiting for sound
[19:10] <CyL> How do I find out what packages are installed for a given server 'task'?
[19:11] <foolove> waiting for sound system to respond
[19:11] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, hmm
[19:12] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, ok. you could try adjusting your volume levels, muting anything you don't need etc.
[19:12] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I really would just like to see my current driver version
[19:12] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, using alsamixer.
[19:12] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, I'm just going to install the realtek driver and see if it works
[19:13] <kostkon> JokesOnYou77, as you wish
[19:15] <flintser> what do i need to do in order to see angle brackets around nicks in irssi. i use screen and irssi through ssh with putty on windows 7
[19:17] <esph> flintser: that'd be something you set up through irssi's config or with scripting
[19:17] <CyL> How do I find out what packages are installed for a given server 'task'?
[19:18] <sianhulo> hey guys, I need help with vmware, I installed it and I'm trying to strat it up but it says that kernel generic module is missing(it's not), what to do?
[19:18] <jrib> CyL: read /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc probably
[19:18] <poq> Is any software for web page monitoring for changes?
[19:19] <CyL> jrib: Well, already tried that files but it actually only holds the tasks descriptions
[19:19] <flintser> esph, ok thanks, i see brackets in other ssh clients so maybe it is a problem with putty after all...
[19:20] <jrib> CyL: doesn't "Key" describe the packages?
[19:20] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[19:20] <CyL> jrib: Sorry, I don't get you
[19:20] <jrib> CyL: what task do you want to know about?
[19:21] <zykotick9> CyL: does ubuntu use task-* packages?
[19:21] <JokesOnYou77> kostkon, $ cat /proc/asound/version
[19:22] <CyL> jrib: lamp-server
[19:22] <CyL> zykotick9: I'm not sure what are you talking about.
[19:22] <zykotick9> CyL: like task-web-server
[19:22] <zykotick9> !info task-web-server
[19:22] <Guest30124> HI! voyager 12.10?
[19:22] <zykotick9> CyL: guess not.  too bad.
[19:22] <CyL> zykotick9: You have to run tasksel
[19:23] <sianhulo> nobody have tried to install vmware?
[19:23] <zykotick9> CyL: upstream has those packages, guess ubuntu removes them :(
[19:23] <jrib> CyL: ah, well "Key" lists the essential packages.  Then you must query your packages to see which have the appropriate task field apparently
[19:24] <CyL> jrib: you mean doing a search on packages descriptions/titles for the key "lamp-server"?
[19:24] <jrib> CyL: example: aptitude search '~tlamp-server'
[19:24] <jrib> CyL: there are special fields apparently for tasks
[19:25] <CyL> jrib: Sure, that's what I was talking about. Thanks for the info.
[19:25] <esph> flintser: looks like it could be a color limitation like this: http://bugs.irssi.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=666
[19:26] <CyL> jrib: BTW last time I have used a Debian based distro, I had to stick either with apt-get or aptitude, there is still such obligation?
[19:26] <esph> flintser: in which case, changing some colors in your putty client might fix it
[19:26] <cvsdave> are there alternative channels for support?
[19:27] <jrib> !support | cvsdave
[19:27] <SonikkuAmerica> CyL: Depends.
[19:27] <jrib> cvsdave: usually a project will have its own channel
[19:27] <CyL> SonikkuAmerica: On what?
[19:27] <SonikkuAmerica> CyL: You can install yum
[19:28] <cvsdave> ubottu:  isn;t this channel #ubuntu?  Then the answer is no?
[19:28] <jrib> SonikkuAmerica: install yum?
[19:28] <CyL> SonikkuAmerica: Why would I install a redhat tool on a debian based distro?
[19:28] <jrib> cvsdave: what do you need help with?
[19:28] <cvsdave> Using 11.10 -looking for wifi documentation; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin seems to be far out of date.  Is more currect available?
[19:28] <SonikkuAmerica> jrib, CyL: You're asking me? I'm telling you it's possible. But why bother.
[19:28] <jrib> !wifi | cvsdave
[19:29] <CyL> SonikkuAmerica: Have you read my question to jrib?
[19:29] <SonikkuAmerica> CyL: Yes
[19:29] <jrib> CyL: can I ask why you asked your question by the way?
[19:29] <zykotick9> CyL: stick with apt-get is safest option in ubuntu.  but aptitude should work, and using one or the other "shouldn't" matter.
[19:30] <cvsdave> ubottu thanks!
[19:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, aptitude has Easter eggs.
[19:30] <nronksr> What is the easiest way to see a grub menu (without rebooting) after adding additional kernels to set the GRUB_DEFAULT option to the desired kernel?
[19:30] <CyL> jrib: I haven't been working with debian/ubuntu for a long time, I find it sometimes easier to use apt related tools, and others aptitude, I was just afraid that would mess up with my package base the way it used to
[19:31] <kaushal> Hi
[19:31] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: so does apt-get, try "apt-get moo" sudo not required
[19:31] <kaushal> Any GUI to ping multiple servers or hosts?
[19:31] <kaushal> available on Ubuntu
[19:31] <kaushal> similar to http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/multiple_ping_tool.html
[19:31] <jrib> CyL: just don't use tasksel to remove tasks.  You can actually use apt-get to intall tasks with something like: apt-get install lamp-server^   (actually I'm not sure if the ^ should be a prefix or suffix)
[19:32] <SonikkuAmerica> zykotick9, did you use the v-switches
[19:32] <jrib> CyL: also, I am reading documentation now and you can use "tasksel --task-packages lamp-server" to list packages
[19:32] <CyL> jrib: I don't want to install a lamp task, I'm going to run the webserver on a computer and the database server on the other. I'd just like to see what are the relevant packages for the webserver.
[19:32] <kunji> jrib: suffix, just like your example.
[19:33] <CyL> jrib: Thanks very much, I'm sorry for not getting that info from the manual.
[19:34] <jrib> CyL: no problem, this way I learned about it too :)
[19:34] <gmulak1> L3top - please see private message - thanks
[19:34] <kunji> CyL: Well, it depends, the web server itself is just Apache, though you could use other ones instead, like Nginx.  But then if you want PHP, then you'll also need PHP, or if you want PERL, etc...
[19:35] <jrib> CyL: if you "/msg ubottu lamp" he gives you wiki link where the packages are listed explicitly as well
[19:35] <flintser> esph: i changed some colors and it helped, thanks :)
[19:35] <CyL> kunji: Yes, I just want to avois installing mysqlserver on the webserver
[19:35] <kunji> CyL: Then you would install just the database, say MySQL or MariaDB on the other.
[19:35] <noobile> hi can anyone help me with an upstart script?
[19:36] <SonikkuAmerica> !upstart
[19:36] <kunji> CyL: It' not the installing part that's obnoxious when doing something like this, it's usually the part where you need to configure the webserver and database to talk to each other.
[19:36] <kunji> *It's
[19:36] <CyL> kunji: I believe this wouldn't have much difference if I was using a complete local lamp stack, is that right?
[19:37] <CyL> kunji: I'm asking because running the database on the other machine would relief me from the burden of maintaining it
[19:38] <kunji> CyL: I think it's not bad for MySQL, it was quite a pain for me configuring my intance of Apache to communicate with an Oracle database.
[19:38] <kunji> CyL: On a remote machine
[19:38] <CyL> kunji: Sure, thanks for your advice anyway
[19:40] <kunji> CyL: This looks applicable: http://library.linode.com/databases/mysql/standalone-mysql-server
[19:41] <CyL> kunji: Oh, it certainly is, thanks.
[19:46] <thoonai_> hi mi nick is blocked :(
[19:47] <anonymous_> e..
[19:47] <kunji> thoonai_: issues with your nick are handled in #freenode
[19:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !e
[19:48] <anonymous_> bye
[19:48] <Roganis> plop !
[19:48] <Roganis> woops wrong chat
[19:48] <thoonai_> kunji: yeah :) thx. you dont know by chance which programm I can use for converting the output of scanimage to jpg?
[19:49] <kunji> thoonai_: What format is the output of that?
[19:50] <thoonai_> kunji: its some raw data
[19:51] <kunji> thoonai_: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_scanimage.htm looks like you can output as a tiff
[19:52] <moon`> I installed ubuntu on a laptop 2-3 days ago and I seem to sporadically loose keyboard functionality, is this a known issue?
[19:52] <johnnyfireworks> hi
[19:52] <moon`> The only thing that allows it to start working again is reboot
[19:54] <thoonai_> kunji: now Ive to com from tiff to jpeg ...
[19:54] <kunji> thoonai_: GIMP can convert the tiff file, or imagemagick will as well.  GIMP might be able to handle the PNM formats, but that's a big might.
[19:54] <oliverp> How do I get a list of available wireless networks? I've tried "iwlist" and that works - but its way too much information. Is it possible to get a simpler list of networks?
[19:55] <johnnyfireworks> anyone know about giving a usb wired mouse to work vb (virtualbox)? it micosofts standard one.
[19:56] <musetux> Greetings All, Minor issue I was looking for some guidance on. It would seem i've somehow removed my (only) user in my 12.04 setup from all the system groups, including sudoers. any one have anyidea how to re-instantiate those privllages? Thanks for any help!
[19:56] <zykotick9> musetux: let me guess, you used usermod to try and add a user to a group?
[19:57] <musetux> great quess!  or im a uber tool!
[19:57] <sianhulo> someone uses vmware?I cant start it up, says that there is no kernel generic module
[19:57] <zykotick9> musetux: using usermod needs a "-a" to append, or you loose all other groups.  in future, using useradd is a lot safer.
[19:58] <thoonai_> kunji: thx :D
[19:58] <adamk> sianhulo: If vmware is looking for one of it's kernel modules, and can't find it, it should ask you if it can install the module.
[19:58] <musetux> thanks zykotick9, I was rushing, should have read the man oage
[20:00] <lesshaste> how do I do this? Copy prog/init/lm_sensors.init to /etc/init.d/lm_sensors
[20:00] <lesshaste> where is this prog?
[20:00] <nat> anybody i, Belgium ??
[20:00] <nat> Belgium ?
[20:01] <johnnyfireworks> sianhulo,  state your question with your pc secs and your program specs. to avoid future 21 question game. and in the end you less likly not to get it fixed,because someone gave up.
[20:01] <sianhulo> adamk, I have the module installed, vmware itself suggest to find another location in the case it is somewhere else or isntall it myself
[20:01] <adamk> I have never heard of that before.  Please show the *exact* message you are receiving.
[20:02] <sianhulo> adamk, well, wait a while because I cant' copy it, I think it would be better to take a screenshot
[20:03] <musetux> zykotick9: would you say; time for a re-install?
[20:04] <sianhulo> johnnyfireworks, i think the only relevat information about this subject is that I have ubutnu 12.10 and kernel 3.7.0-7
[20:04] <kunji> musetux: No, boot from a live cd and chroot, add a new user.
[20:05] <musetux> kunji:  Thank you. I'll give that a go
[20:05] <zykotick9> musetux: no.  just boot recovery and add your user back to the required groups (sorry i don't use ubuntu, so don't know what groups you need)
[20:05] <kunji>  musetux: Or rather, you just removed your user from all the groups right?  So add the groups back rather than making a new user.
[20:06] <flintser> why not rescue and adduser?
[20:07] <musetux> zykotick9: thanks that's not to bad idea, like that one too/
[20:07] <kunji> musetux: I don't know if it's all the groups you'll need, or if you need all of these ones, but for reference my user if part of his own group (The same as the user name), adm, cdrom, sudo, plugdev, lpadmin, and sambashare
[20:07] <kunji> *is not if
[20:08] <kunji> flintser: Hmm, rescue should also work I think.  We don't really want to adduser because it would leave his old user hanging, but he could remove the old user first and then add one with the same name.
[20:08] <lesshaste> what's a nice graphical app to show cpu temp etc
[20:09] <kunji> lesshaste: Conky, you can write whatever lua + Cairo script you want if you want fancier graphics than the defaults.
[20:10] <sianhulo> I'm trying to start vmware but it says that the generic kernel module wasn't found, is there a way to fix this?
[20:10] <musetux> flintser: Thank you very much for the suggestion, i may try that do to impaitents  of redownloading the .iso for a liveCD
[20:11] <kunji> lesshaste: sudo apt-get install conky  Then cp /etc/conky/conky.conf ~/.conkyrc   Or you can write your own .conkyrc, the options are further explained in the man page.
[20:11] <lesshaste> thanks
[20:12] <musetux> flintser, kunji, zykotick9: Thank you so much for all your help, imma get cracking on this!!
[20:12] <kunji> lesshaste: You may need lmsensors or something for the temps
[20:13] <flintser> musetux: http://serverfault.com/questions/11488/what-are-the-default-groups-assigned-to-the-first-user-in-ubuntu-server i think that info is update enough fot you to work with if you dont want to make a new user
[20:19] <reiligha> Hi folks. I was running rkhunter and got this message in my logs after a warning on the check for hidden files and directories: Warning: Hidden file found: /etc/.fstab.swp: Vim swap file, version 7.3
[20:19] <reiligha> I saw a couple other warnings but google told me those were false positives and that everything looks normal.
[20:20] <jrib> reiligha: just seems like you didn't close vim properly after editing /etc/fstab
[20:20] <monst> seems there is a unresovable dependancy for Glance on the Ubuntu repo.
[20:20] <monst> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EJgE3TBa
[20:21] <reiligha> jrib That's probably the case. I couldn't get the :recover command to work as described by vim
[20:21] <jrib> reiligha: #vim might help more
[20:21] <jrib> monst: "~cloud0"? what repository is this from?
[20:22] <reiligha> jrib Thank you!
[20:22] <nb-ben> has anyone ever tried installing gfarm on ubuntu-server ?
[20:23] <reiligha> !cookie
[20:24] <monst> jrib, deb     http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise-proposed/folsom main
[20:26] <jrib> monst: have you tried not using -proposed?  Instead using -updates as in http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/cloud-archive-instructions ?
[20:26] <flintser> monst: couldnt you just download those packages and install them manually?
[20:27] <monst> jrib I tried updates
[20:27] <jrib> monst: and?
[20:27] <monst> same error
[20:27] <monst> I might already be in a jacked state
[20:27] <jrib> monst: pastebin command after "apt-get update" and "apt-cache policy PACKAGES" for the packages in question please
[20:27] <monst> ok
[20:28] <Kinglet> hello guys, how can i do in terminal via tor? for example ssh
[20:30] <monst> jrib, http://paste.openstack.org/raw/30061/
[20:31] <monst> btw at the moment precise-updates and precise-proposed are identical
[20:32] <jrib> monst: 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1.1 installed ok on quantal for what it's worth.  Is it ok to remove the packages temporarily?  If so, does that even work? :)
[20:33] <Kinglet> hello guys, how can i do in terminal via tor? for example ssh
[20:33] <jrib> monst: oh I should say, python-glance installed ok but it seems like your issue is with glance, glance-api, glance-registry, and glance-common
[20:34] <monst> correct
[20:34] <monst> do I need to remove a package?
[20:35] <jrib> monst: let's remove glance-common, glance-api, glance-registry, and glance for now and then install glance-common directly and see if there are issues
[20:36] <monst> I cant remove them since they are running, I need to do some distastor recovery work before I can turn them down
[20:36] <jrib> monst: hmm
[20:36] <monst> this dependency mishap broke my system pretty good =(
[20:37] <jrib> monst: is it clear it's a dependency issue?
[20:38] <flintser> monst: did you try to manually install broken packages? i had to do that once before everything worked out
[20:38] <jrib> yes, I was going to suggest "apt-get install glance-common glance-api glance-registry glance" if you can't remove them.  There are new versions available anyway
[20:39] <Maxwell> Anyone else having trouble logging into 12.04 after updating?
[20:39] <jrib> Maxwell: probably you :)  Can you say what issue you are having?
[20:40] <Maxwell> Probably me is right.  All it does is blink off the login screen, then right back to it.
[20:40] <jrib> Maxwell: pastebin ~/.xsession-errors
[20:40] <Maxwell> Alright, let me try that.
[20:44] <Maxwell> What would be the proper syntax?  I'm getting command errors.
[20:45] <jrib> Maxwell: pastebinit ~USERNAME/.xsession-errors
[20:45] <Maxwell> Thank you, I'll try that
[20:46] <jiffe98> there still no way to play bluray on linux?
[20:47] <jiffe98> without ripping it first
[20:52] <sdistefano> hi ; I need help setting up my sound card
[20:52] <sdistefano> I can't get it to output SPDIF
[20:52] <sdistefano> and speaker-test -D iec958 gets me Channels count (1) not available for playbacks: Invalid argument
[20:53] <kunji> jiffe98: Huh, come to think of it, I've never tried playing one... don't even have a blu-ray drive.  I'm pretty sure that I heard it works though.  Maybe you need some stuff from the medibuntu repos?  It would be good if you let people know what you've tried so far.  This seems to be one way: http://vlc-bluray.whoknowsmy.name/
[20:53] <kunji> jiffe98: Found it through this post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/140080/playing-blu-ray-using-vlc
[20:55] <kunji> jiffe98: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/releases/2.0.4.html If you read the input and devices section they say they don't ship aacs and bc+drm libs and keys for legal reasons, that first site basically covers getting them
[20:57] <Maxwell> Pasteninit said it was an empty file.
[20:58] <tim> anybody have any idea why torrent files will not download anymore while using ubuntu but will with windows and also Linux booted from a cd
[20:58] <tim> ?
[20:59] <tim> been this way for months
[21:00] <shbk> hello, does anyone know whether it's possible to look content of /usr/share/misc/magic.mgc in the  understood form?  I need know what magic number it uses for detecting files  for program in c++ (which is supposed to work in windows too, and I wouldn't like to use library)
[21:00] <kunji> tim: I don't know, but more details would help others to help you.  What torrent programs are you using, can you find any logs or error messages that may be related?  Paste all the data you can find and link it.
[21:01] <ahhdem> hi, I'm having a problem.. I'm migrating some hosts from 10.10 to 12.04 and noticing some -select- bash builtins will not work with 'sudo -u user -i "cd /opt/something && ls" '   -- this previously worked on 10.10.  pushd also does not work, but strangely, umask does.
[21:02] <ahhdem> I've been reading the changelog between sudo 1.7.2 and 1.8.3 but not finding anything indicative of a default behavior change.. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[21:02] <Static465> need help with bash script, anyone ?
[21:02] <IOmegaZ> hi
[21:02] <root-_Plebeu> alguem ai e do brasil ?
[21:02] <kunji> !details | Static465
[21:03] <onefix_work> Static465: What is the problem?
[21:03] <IOmegaZ> i got a quick question
[21:03] <designbybeck__> on a flash site, it wants me to click ok to accept for video/mic but it will not let me click on it in Linux
[21:03] <kunji> !ask | IOmegaZ
[21:03] <TUplink> im so cunfused with this    initramfs-tools : Depends: initramfs-tools-bin (< 0.99ubuntu13.1~) but 0.99ubuntu13.1 is to be installed
[21:04] <onefix_work> Static465: http://pastebin.com/ if you can put the script on PasteBin, it will make it easier to debug.
[21:04] <IOmegaZ> when i try to to install ubuntu with ubuntu installer i get an error occurred list index out of range
[21:04] <Static465> onefix_work: i have a script which is called by: ./script.sh foo, later on i use a command which also uses $1: wc -c recovery.img | awk '{print $1}
[21:05] <Static465> onefix_work: so the $1 gets mixed up.
[21:05] <Threepwood> IOmegaZ: sounds like a python error :)
[21:05] <onefix_work> Did you remember to use the end quote?
[21:06] <Static465> onefix_work: yeah
[21:06] <onefix_work> Static465: Also, try this : wc -c recovery.img | awk '{print \$1}'
[21:06] <IOmegaZ> what shall i do?
[21:06] <Static465> onefix_work: $1 is already occupied by foo, so the awk command fails.
[21:07] <TUplink> can i delete /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin?
[21:07] <IOmegaZ> what shall i do?
[21:07] <onefix_work> Static465: Problem is that the $1 shouldn't be a problem...the braces should tell it not to treat it as a string.
[21:08] <Threepwood> IOmegaZ: is it this one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1192669
[21:08] <onefix_work> Static465: You might also want to try adding "-F" to the awk command
[21:09] <Static465> onefix_work: gonna try it, bb in a couple of mins ..
[21:09] <onefix_work> Static465: The biggest question is does the command you are trying to run work outside of your script?
[21:17] <morfeo_81> hi there!
[21:17] <Static465> onefix_work: awk: unexpected token, printf: invalid number
[21:17] <djzn> anyone using LVM here ?
[21:17] <morfeo_81> how can add the path to enviroment...?
[21:17] <thoonai> scanimage outout in tiff doesnt work
[21:18] <morfeo_81> how can add the path to enviroment...? It is better to put in enviroment  file or in profile
[21:19] <Static465> onefix_work: http://pastebin.com/y6c0L7jS
[21:19] <jrib> morfeo_81: use ~/.profile (if you need some scripting logic) or ~/.pam_environment
[21:20] <morfeo_81> jrib, thanks so how can set more path  in onw
[21:20] <jrib> morfeo_81: what do you want to add?
[21:21] <morfeo_81> jrib, I need to give a path on /opt/software/
[21:21] <Static465> does anyone know how to circumvent the $1 in the awk/printf command: http://pastebin.com/y6c0L7jS
[21:22] <morfeo_81> jrib, I have different bin for  each program so I need to set for 5 programs
[21:22] <jrib> morfeo_81: there's an example in ~/.profile though you may want to consider just symlinking those 5 programs to some existing component in your path
[21:23] <thoonai> scanimage doesnt work
[21:24] <morfeo_81> jrib, could you please explain me how can I do the second part..you mean ln -s?
[21:24] <jrib> morfeo_81: yes, I mean ln -s TARGET NAME
[21:24] <[ent]> how do i set a whole directory as non read only
[21:24] <[ent]> in ubuntu
[21:25] <kunji> thoonai: I'm testing right now
[21:26] <[ent]> chmod doesn't do it
[21:26] <zykotick9> [ent]: actually chmod can do it...
[21:26] <[ent]> how?
[21:26] <kunji> thoonai: Works for me: scanimage -d hpaio:/usb/Photosmart_C4200_series?serial=CN799MF0ZS04VP --format tiff > tiffScan
[21:26] <thoonai> kunji: thanks
[21:27] <aarndt> hi
[21:27] <jrib> [ent]: what directory?
[21:27] <kunji> thoonai: You device will be different of course though, but you know that, as you had it working for PNM I think.
[21:27] <kunji> *Your
[21:27] <[ent]> jrib any directory
[21:28] <wellywu> Does anyone here use Rookcifer's Novell AppArmor profiles for X-Chat and Pidgin? Do they work for you?
[21:28] <jrib> [ent]: you should say which directory.  Since if you use chmod inappropriately on the wrong directory you can end up with a broken install
[21:28] <morfeo_81> where I can found  boostlib >= 1.38.0... library?
[21:28] <zykotick9> jrib: +1
[21:29] <kunji> Actually chmod might not be able to (in the case where the filesystem is NTFS for instance)
[21:29] <xrs> having an odd issue: when downloading files specified to save to my external hard drive, the files appear to go to the drive; they are there if i view it in thunar, but if i unplug the drive, the files are not on it, the file are instead located in /media/$user/$drive (where they would have been if the drive was connected)
[21:30] <Linux_Alien> Hi, I am installing ubuntu 12.10 on a compaq presario laptop. The live system works 100% but when trying to install to drive, the install just sits doing nothing at "creating user....."it's been creating the user now for about 3 hours :( Any idea's?
[21:30] <zykotick9> kunji: good point.
[21:30] <jrib> kunji: what if you suid bash? /me runs
[21:31] <monst__> jrib: sorry home internet went out
[21:31] <monst__> at the office now
[21:32] <jrib> monst__: any change?
[21:32] <monst__> still the same
[21:32] <MacroMan> I've just installed 12.04 and put on gnome, but I'm missing any VPN options from the network widget. Any idea how I can get them?
[21:33] <jrib> monst__: I was going to suggest "apt-get install glance-common glance-api glance-registry glance" if you can't remove them.  There are new versions available anyway.  Also, is it clear it's a dependency issue as the root cause?
[21:33] <kunji> jrib: /me runs?  It's been too long since I've really dealt with permissions, I've forgotten anything complicated.
[21:33] <jrib> kunji: may I pm?
[21:33] <kunji> jrib: sure
[21:34] <Kinglet> hello guys, how can i ssh via tor in my terminal?
[21:34] <Kinglet> i cannot set proxy for my terminal
[21:34] <monst__> jrib: according the rackspace guys its a dependecy issue
[21:34] <Kinglet> how should i do?
[21:34] <monst__> they seemed to think the repo was amiss
[21:35] <monst__> http://paste.openstack.org/raw/30072/
[21:35] <Kinglet> hello guys, how can i ssh via tor in my terminal?
[21:35] <Kinglet> i cannot set proxy for my terminal
[21:35] <Kinglet> how should i do?
[21:36] <MacroMan> Kinglet, Be patient, this isn't a instant answer service. No one is paid here.
[21:36] <morfeo_81> !cufflink
[21:36] <Kinglet> MacroMan, i know, ok
[21:36] <jrib> monst__: oh, glance-common depends on python-glance (= 2012.2.1-0ubuntu1~cloud0) but you have the later version installed (2012.2.1-0ubuntu1.1~cloud0).  Uh, can you put up « apt-cache policy glance-common python-glance »?  I closed your previous paste
[21:37] <monst__> sure
[21:37] <jrib> Kinglet: no idea if the docs discuss it, but you can check them out while you wait (see ubottu's message)
[21:37] <jrib> !tor | Kinglet
[21:38] <Kinglet> jrib, tor is installed in my machine, i want to ssh via tor from console
[21:38] <monst__> jrib: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/30073/
[21:39] <jrib> Kinglet: I understand.  I don't know how to do that, but you can browse the docs at that link while you wait for an answer
[21:39] <kunji> Kinglet: My second google result: http://www.howtoforge.com/anonymous-ssh-sessions-with-tor
[21:40] <jrib> monst__: hmm, why doesn't apt grab the 1.1 of glance-common...
[21:40] <monst__> can I do that manually?
[21:40] <Kinglet> jrib, ok thanx man
[21:40] <magdy> I need to talk to some one interested in Java Programming system design and Algorithms
[21:41] <jrib> monst__: it might be trying to configure the old one before upgrading?  What versions were last working?  And are you in a position to just remove them and reinstall them at this point?
[21:42] <monst__> lets say I was able to kill this machine
[21:42] <monst__> what commands would you suggest
[21:42] <schultza> !lines
[21:42] <BluesKaj> magdy,I would tell you to  join #java, but apparently you must be invited first ., perhaps #freenode can tell you how
[21:42] <monst__> I am still doing some backups
[21:43] <schultza> !multiple
[21:43] <Star_Light> hello I want a command ... especially I want the version of find command in order to look for a c source file in etc directory..... I pushed find /etc -name "*.c" -print but I take some strange output with files like http://ideone.com/oDr4CG chatsscripts fro example is .c source file?
[21:43] <schultza> what is the site if your are going to post multiple line responses for use in irc?
[21:43] <Star_Light> for*
[21:43] <monst__> jrib: yeah I can blow this thing away noe
[21:43] <monst__> now
[21:43] <magdy> Thanks a lot
[21:43] <aLeSD> hi all
[21:43] <zykotick9> !paste | schultza
[21:43] <RollinV2> schultza, paste.ubuntu.com
[21:44] <jrib> monst__: well let's wait for the backups to finish. But the easiest thing to do would be to just remove all 4 of those packages: sudo apt-get remove glance-common glance-api  glance-registry glance    . Let's see if that works first
[21:44] <aLeSD> I installed nvidia drivers .. but the screen now is 3 times little
[21:44] <monst__> jrib: they are finished
[21:44] <aLeSD> and multiplied 3 times
[21:44] <jrib> monst__: alright, see if apt will let you remove those packages
[21:44] <monst__> kk
[21:45] <aLeSD> someone knows how to solve the problem ?
[21:45] <Kinglet> kunji, yes i've seen that, but theres no ~/.ssh/config
[21:47] <kunji> Kinglet: Ah, create it then mkdir ~/.ssh  touch ~/.ssh/config  I think it should be in the path ssh looks at.  Otherwise I think you can place those in /etc/ssh/sshd_config but that is for all users.
[21:48] <kunji> Kinglet: Also are you sure you don't have it?  Check with ls -la  as .ssh will be a hidden file.
[21:48] <Kinglet> kunji, yes i'm sure!
[21:48] <Kinglet> kunji, i did
[21:48] <jrib> Kinglet: you've never used ssh before on the machine?
[21:48] <Kinglet> kunji, i'll touch, thanx, i'm trying that way
[21:49] <Kinglet> jrib, yea i managed my servers via ssh at my ubuntu box :)
[21:53] <monst__> jrib: it resolved
[21:53] <jrib> monst__: cool
[21:53] <monst__> after removed those packages and reinstalling
[21:53] <monst__> appreciate your help
[21:53] <jrib> monst__: I don't know why python-glance got installed at a later version before the rest of the things.  If you want, maybe you could try to replicate and file a bug
[21:54] <Kinglet> jrib, kunji kinglet@blackbox:$ ssh root@x.x.x.x -p 22022
[21:54] <Kinglet> Bad owner or permissions on /home/kinglet/.ssh/config
[21:55] <nwp> is anyone here successfully running ubuntu 12.10 on a 2012 model (6,1 or 6,2) mac mini? wifi I have no problem with, network will be a pain but possible, the thing that looks like being the killer is video problem.
[21:55] <kunji> Kinglet: From the man page:      ~/.ssh/config
[21:55] <kunji>              This is the per-user configuration file.  The format of this file is described above.  This file is used by the SSH client.  Because of the potential for abuse, this file must have strict permissions:
[21:55] <kunji>              read/write for the user, and not accessible by others.  It may be group-writable provided that the group in question contains only the user.
[21:55] <Kinglet> kunji, jrib i created the config file in ~/.ssh and put these in it Host *
[21:55] <Kinglet> CheckHostIP no
[21:55] <Kinglet> Compression yes
[21:55] <Kinglet> Protocol 2
[21:55] <Kinglet> ProxyCommand connect -4 -S localhost:9050 $(tor-resolve %h localhost:9050) %p
[21:56] <FloodBot1> Kinglet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:56] <kunji> Kinglet: Read man ssh_config
[21:57] <nwp> and if not a mac mini, anyone else with 3rd gen intel hd 4000 graphics got it working right?
[21:57] <jrib> Kinglet: ls -ld ~/.ssh{,/config}
[21:57] <Kinglet> kunji, yes! i changed the perms to 644, i think it's ok now
[21:59] <Kinglet> kunji, thanx man, it's ok! i'm connecting to ssh via tor now. the problem was for permissions :)
[22:00] <Kinglet> kunji, jrib solved. thanx guys :)
[22:00] <kunji> Kinglet: glad it worked out ^_^
[22:00] <Slynux> hi, i need delete a mysql server
[22:00] <monst__> jrib: will do
[22:01] <Slynux> could yo please help me?
[22:02] <zappie> hi :)
[22:03] <kunji> Slynux: Are you sure?  You might want to consider the words delete and server in your question.  Maybe you mean to uninstall mysql, or do delete one database from mysql?
[22:03] <kunji> *to
[22:04] <Slynux> i delete the folders by error and now i can't uninstall the mysql server
[22:04] <zappie> kunji: is there a channel on this massive server where i can talk to london ppl? :)
[22:05] <flintser> zappie: try #london
[22:05] <Slynux> i need purge mysql in my server
[22:05] <kunji> Slynux: try installing again, then uninstalling
[22:05] <zappie> thx flintser :)
[22:05] <kunji> !cookie | flintser
[22:05] <Slynux> i try that but show me a dependences conflict
[22:06] <flintser> zappie: it seems that it is invite only though :D
[22:06] <zappie> there are invites only to #london
[22:06] <zappie> y  :P
[22:07] <kunji> Slynux: Hmm, pastebin the error, I don't know what I'm doing with dependencies but it will help for some else that does to help you.
[22:07] <zappie> flintser: and you can help me with that? ;)
[22:07] <Slynux> errors to process mysql-server and mysql-server5.5
[22:07] <flintser> zappie: ircnet has 33 users at #london, try there ^^
[22:07] <Pici> !uk
[22:08] <setient> anyone here ever use ubuntu powerpc?
[22:08] <setient> i am going to be trying it
[22:08] <kunji> T.T they get the good English there!?!?!  You guys might not see me again :P
[22:09] <kunji> setient: Yes, good luck brace yourself.  You will likely encounter obscure problems and they won't be the ones I encountered, T.T
[22:09] <setient> kunji: i am used to linux/unix on non x86.
[22:09] <setient> it is an ibook clamshell g3
[22:09] <setient> 466 mhz of awesome
[22:10] <zappie> flintser: ok... you have a name?... from one operator on #london? i may need one..... to connect ;)
[22:10] <petersaints> I'm getting this error "libv4l2: error turning on stream: Protocol error" with my webcam
[22:10] <kunji> Setient: Oh, maybe they will be the same then, let me know how it goes, if all went smoothly I may dig mine out again.
[22:10] <petersaints> any idea how to fix it?
[22:10] <setient> kunji: i am going to use this as my only laptop methinks
[22:11] <flintser> why'd you want ubuntu on mac
[22:11] <setient> why not?
[22:11] <setient> i mean i could put netbsd/freebsd/openbsd on it
[22:11] <setient> or gentoo or debian
[22:12] <kunji> flintser: I've got Arch on mine at the moment
[22:12] <setient> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Official_Install_Guide_on_a_PowerPC OH
[22:12] <setient> i could do that
[22:12] <flintser> dunno, i just like the OSX. i'd install it to my pc if i could
[22:13] <flintser> zappie: if you use irssi try /connect irc.cc.tut.fi and after that /j #london
[22:13] <flintser> i dont know other ircnet servers
[22:13] <kunji> flintser: I rather dislike OSX... and pretty much everything Apple this laptop being pretty much my only exception.
[22:16] <flintser> i have a place in my heart for apple :) i really don't know why. they are so expensive and can't do much. still i like the feel of them. and osx.
[22:17] <flintser> i just want the osx basically...
[22:17] <setient> man
[22:17] <setient> i can't even get it to boot.
[22:17] <setient> osx is so bad.
[22:17] <setient> i hate it
[22:17] <kunji> flintser: You're over 30 aren't you?  They used be quite a different company.
[22:17] <setient> i also miss non x86 laptops
[22:17] <setient> or desktops
[22:19] <flintser> nope. im 18.
[22:20] <nwp> flintser: if you must know, it's because the ubuntu bit is non-negotiable and I value small, quiet, reasonably priced, solid hardware. Seems they've messed up with the "reliable" on this model, but...
[22:20] <kunji> flintser: Hmm, then I guess I don't understand your stance on Apple at all then, oh well. :P
[22:21] <nwp> and I can't get an intense pc here at the moment, although it may be an option soon
[22:21] <nwp> still intel hd graphics 4000 though, hence the second question
[22:21] <setient> kunji: i have some sparc laptops too.
[22:21] <setient> i am awesome.
[22:23] <flintser> nwp: actually i'd really like a raspberry pi for that use... small, quiet, reasonably priced, dunno about reliability though.
[22:23] <nwp> flintser: although if you have any other suggestions for something that meets that description that doesn't involve Apple, I'm all ears. I have yet to see it though. Pi not fast enough.
[22:23] <nwp> It's for a desktop, and I need to be able to run VMs on it.
[22:24] <flintser> lenovo t420
[22:24] <nwp> Which is one reason my old 24" iMac is going out the door (4G RAM max). Also the HDD is failing.
[22:24] <flintser> i can recommend that one for sure
[22:24] <DrGrov> Good evening everyone. I am having some weird issues on 12.04. I am running Google Chrome and watched some web content via Flash and I get thrown out to the login screen once in a while. Has happened now for 1 time / day for the past few days. Any ideas what might be causing it?
[22:24] <nwp> flintser: don't want a laptop
[22:24] <tremby> hi. i've got my friend to try out Ubuntu. he has a PDF which needs javascript and Evince can't do that. i tried on acroread on my own machine and it works, so i'm trying to take him through installing it with software center. it won't show up in searches, so i've made sure he has switched on "Canonical Partners". on mine it appears, on his it still does not. i can't find how to force an apt-get update through software centre. any idea?
[22:25] <DrGrov> Could it be connected with my xorg.conf configuration and nVidia GPU? I forced 1920x1080 resolution as a modeline in xorg.conf and have not had any issues until now this past week.
[22:25] <jrib> tremby: do you know the package name?
[22:25] <tremby> jrib: yes, it's acroread
[22:26] <jrib> tremby: what's the output of « apt-cache policy acroread » on your machine?
[22:26] <tremby> mine or his
[22:26] <jrib> tremby: yours :)
[22:26] <tremby> http://sprunge.us/THEI
[22:27] <jrib> tremby: « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy acroread »   on your friend's machine
[22:27] <flintser> nwp: http://www.tinygreenpc.com/fit-pc/intense-pc.aspx i have no experience nor can i say anything about it, but maybe that meets yout needs :)
[22:28] <tremby> jrib: ah but on my other machine i get http://sprunge.us/aCaL
[22:28] <tremby> jrib: no, the whole point is that i don't want him to see the command line. i want to do this with software center
[22:28] <DrGrov> Brb
[22:28] <tremby> otherwise i'd just install it with apt-get for him
[22:28] <jrib> tremby: just to debug the issue
[22:29] <WBF> Hello everyone! I have a problem with network manager. I tried to install a network driver but it isn't working and when I say modprobe -l it doesn't list the module I Installed.
[22:29] <jrib> tremby: instead of apt-get update, you can use refresh or whatever it is in software center
[22:29] <nwp> flintser: as I said, can't get it yet but may be an option soon. still hd4000 graphics though, so want to know whether people are having good results with them at all, not just on mini 6,1/6,2
[22:29] <chaos_plague> hi first time using irssi how do i turn off user join/leave channel
[22:29] <jrib> !quietirssi | chaos_plague
[22:29] <chaos_plague> thank you
[22:30] <nwp> flintser: btw see compulab.co.il for more on intense pc etc.
[22:30] <jrib> tremby: because it's not clear whether the package is just not available to your friend or it is but software center is choosing not to show it
[22:30] <nwp> they do seem to be the only people doing what everyone and their dog *ought* to be doing.
[22:30] <flintser> tremby: is foxit reader in ubuntu repos?
[22:30] <WBF> How do I make freenode webchat avoid join/part/quit channel in this #ubuntu channel?
[22:30] <tremby> jrib: let's debug on my other machine, where i believe i'm seeing the same thing as him
[22:30] <tremby> so my second sprunge above
[22:31] <jrib> tremby: so you don't see acroread in software center?
[22:31] <tremby> nope
[22:31] <jrib> tremby: how about in synaptic?
[22:31] <jbwiv> windows 8 has a nice view in Task Manager where you can see a process's resource usage over time. Makes it easy to see what is abusing resources at certain points...not necessarily just at the moment (like top or the regular Task Manager does). Are there any utilities like this for linux? one that I can run and check back on in an hour and see what processes were most impactful over that time? tia
[22:31] <tremby> flintser: doesn't look like it
[22:31] <jrib> tremby: I think software-center doesn't show certain packages for whatever reason
[22:31] <tremby> jrib: thing is, on my laptop i do see it
[22:32] <jrib> tremby: could be because it is already installed
[22:32] <tremby> and see in the output of the command you gave me the 500 messages
[22:32] <tremby> 500 is a server error
[22:32] <jrib> tremby: you mean in your paste?
[22:32] <tremby> i've uninstalled it on my laptop and it does still appear in software centre
[22:32] <tremby> yes i mean in the paste
[22:32] <jrib> tremby: that's normal, that's the priority
[22:32] <DrGrov> Is there any troubleshooting I can do for this Google Chrome issue?
[22:32] <thinklinux> hello
[22:32] <tremby> oh, i thought it was an error code
[22:32] <tremby> ok
[22:33] <tremby> i've 99% sure it's just because apt-get update hasn't run
[22:33] <tremby> how do i tell software center to do that?
[22:33] <tremby> or does that apt-cache policy line tell you that's not the issue
[22:34] <flintser> nwp: now that i look at it i might buy intense-pc for home media center + running irssi and ftp servers
[22:34] <PingIT> Hi just got a fast question here, i can se my wtmp gets a little big, wood it be safe to ln -s /dev/null /var/log/wtmp the file?
[22:34] <flintser> never knew those existed before
[22:34] <thinklinux> anyone ever experienced this, was surfing the web and suddenly shows a black screen (in fullscreen) with a bunch of text scrolling down really fast...had to end up a doing a hard reboot..(ubuntu 12.10)
[22:35] <jrib> tremby: correct, but if you want to you can go to software-sources in the edit menu and probably just toggle something
[22:35] <chaos_plague> my terminal window only shows messages in the currect screen it clears any messages that i must scroll up to see is there a way to change that?
[22:35] <JosthynPower> alguien habla español
[22:35] <tremby> jrib: i've tried that, toggled various sources off and on and i never get an offer to update and it still isn't showing in searches
[22:35] <jrib> tremby: does it show up in synaptic ok?
[22:35] <tremby> but i do aptitude search acroread and there it is
[22:36] <tremby> i didn't install synaptic yet, i'll do that now
[22:36] <thoonai> kunji: yuo are great.
[22:36] <WBF> thinklinux: was there 2 penguins? an ubuntu symbol? what was there on the top of the screen? the only time I experince that is when I boot my custom linux pc.
[22:36] <jrib> tremby: not every package is displayed in software-center I think (like dev libraries).  I don't know too much about that
[22:36] <thoonai> kunji: thx. I somehow overread the --format tiif flag
[22:37] <flintser> tremby why dont you want to use terminal
[22:37] <WBF> I'm having an issue too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1594755/
[22:37] <tremby> jrib: like i said, it is now displayed even though it is not installed on my laptop
[22:37] <jrib> tremby: but it was once installed
[22:37] <flintser> i can see acroread too
[22:37] <flintser> never used
[22:37] <WBF> and at the end it says invalid module format.
[22:37] <tremby> flintser: because i want my friend who is trying out ubuntu for the first time to never see the command line if at all possible, which it ought to be
[22:38] <flintser> he's going to see it eventually :)
[22:39] <chaos_plague> exit
[22:39] <tremby> jrib: ok, in synaptic it appears
[22:39] <tremby> then i closed software centre and opened it again and now it appears in software centre
[22:39] <tremby> maybe synaptic forced an update
[22:39] <tremby> apt-cache policy line is identical
[22:40] <jrib> tremby: weird
[22:40] <flintser> but you can install acroreader now?
[22:41] <tremby> it appears in the software center so i assume so. it's totally retarded that it wasn't showing up before. i think it must be a bug, it's not updating after sources are changed
[22:41] <tremby> another retarded thing is that if i search "adobe reader" it doesn't appear in the results, but i search "acroread" and it does, even though its title is "Adobe Reader"
[22:42] <zathras_laptop> apt-get is telling me The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[22:42] <flintser> you could've just download foxit reader, it has .deb installers downloadable
[22:42] <zathras_laptop>  libapache2-mod-wsgi : Depends: libpython2.7 (>= 2.7) but it is not going to be installed
[22:42] <zathras_laptop> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:43] <zathras_laptop> any ideas how i can fix that? i sort of need mod-wsgi
[22:43] <tremby> flintser: that's also something i don't want to put him through. i want him to be able to install the stuff he needs from software centre. that's its purpose after all
[22:43] <jrib> zathras_laptop: sudo apt-get update, then try again.  If it still fails, pastebin « apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-wsgi libpython2.7 »
[22:44] <jrib> tremby: you should probably file a bug at least about the search (if software center isn't searching titles)
[22:45] <tremby> yeah
[22:45] <flintser> mine finds adobe reader if i try it
[22:45] <zathras_laptop> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1594833/
[22:45] <tremby> flintser: yours is updated
[22:45] <tremby> so the issue, i think, is that after adding a new source it gave no option to update
[22:46] <jrib> zathras_laptop: we may have to do a lot of pastebinning... output of: sudo apt-get install libpython2.7
[22:46] <cschneid> Does anybody have a good guide on locking down a web server? Jails & configs & similar
[22:47] <flintser> if i add a repo through software center it shows up
[22:47] <zathras_laptop> jrib, now pastebin won't let me paste....
[22:47] <zathras_laptop> libpython2.7 : Depends: python2.7 (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu3.1) but 2.7.3-1+lucid1 is to be installed
[22:47] <zathras_laptop> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:47] <jrib> zathras_laptop: there are hundreds of pastebins
[22:47] <flintser> just tried that with vsftpd with writable chroot -repo
[22:47] <zathras_laptop> jrib, think those are the lines that matter?
[22:47] <jrib> zathras_laptop: yes, we are getting close.  What is the output of « apt-cache policy python2.7 »
[22:48] <setient> kunji: its booting
[22:48] <setient> i am going to install 12.10 i think
[22:48] <setient> its only got 320 megs of ram :(
[22:51] <zathras_laptop> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1594878/
[22:52] <jrib> zathras_laptop: the issue is you have this installed: 2.7.3-1+lucid1
[22:52] <jrib> zathras_laptop: it is not from the standard repositories it seems
[22:52] <zathras_laptop> jrib, hmm, ok, so can i remove it?
[22:53] <jrib> zathras_laptop: removing python would probably break a lot of things.  You can try to downgrade but make sure you have backups just in case
[22:53] <zathras_laptop> jrib, that's what i feared
[22:53] <zathras_laptop> how do i downgrade?
[22:56] <alcuadrado> If I create my own live-cd version of ubuntu, can I make it mount all partitions in the available disks automatically?
[22:58] <iceroot> alcuadrado: that should be the default
[22:58] <alcuadrado> great iceroot! thanks
[22:58] <iceroot> alcuadrado: ubuntu is mounting all partitions by default here on my system
[22:59] <kunji> setient: I was gone for dinner, SPARC, nice ^_^, and booting is good too.
[23:00] <setient> kunji: i am going to install it later.  i am at work
[23:01] <kunji> iceroot: Mine does not mount all partitions by default.
[23:01] <setient> i thin i want to setup a netboot server and od it that way
[23:01] <jrib> zathras_laptop: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION
[23:01] <kunji> setient: mmk, well, I leave this running a lot even when I'm not here so you'll probably be able to find me again.
[23:01] <setient> hotness.
[23:02] <iceroot> kunji: from the same hdd?
[23:02] <iceroot> kunji: even nautilus is showing all of my partitons (ext4, ntfs, fat)
[23:03] <kunji> iceroot: nautilus shows all my partitions, but only / and /swap were mounted by default on my install, I added 3 others to fstab myself.
[23:04] <MacroMan_afn> Just installed Ubuntu 12.04 and switched to gnome, but I don't have any VPN options in the network manager applet or network settings. How can I set open a VPN connection?
[23:05] <MacroMan_afn> I have options for wired and wireless settings like normal, but nothing about VPN. I've googled, but can't find anything relavent.
[23:07] <Triups> ubuntu 12.10: One of my nics has a 50% chance of coming up as p33p2.  the other 50% of the time it comes up as rename3.  How do I stabilize this?
[23:09] <BluPhenix316> i have a problem but i'm not sure which channel i should ask, I have ubuntu 12.10 64bit installed and currently updated, i did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and it gets to update-initramfs and just hangs there
[23:09] <BluPhenix316> is this a #ubuntu problem or a #kubuntu problem?
[23:09] <iceroot> Triups: hm, it should always have the same name  the name is defined in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  and related to the mac address
[23:09] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: ubuntu
[23:09] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: but building a new initramfs takes some time
[23:10] <backbox> Trying out a new distro (Backbox) and I can't load jockey (either -gtk or -text). Getting this error: ImportError: No module named xml.parsers.expat
[23:10] <kunji> MacroMan_afn: Umm, the ones for OpenVPN you mean right?  I don't use gnome, so I couldn't really say, maybe try their channel, or #openvpn Also I think there's a way to do it on the command line without bothering with plugins.
[23:10] <backbox> Also, jockey is a terrible name for a program when it won't start. Makes searching through google full of horses :/
[23:10] <flintser> iceroot: mounting isnt the same as them showing up in nautilus
[23:10] <flintser> they mount when you click them
[23:10] <Doomhammer> hi, i'm trying to connect to my network with the ubuntu livecd and it won't do it - ive tried the same cable & port with another machine, and i get a dhcp lease just fine, but not on this one - i have a realtek rtl8111/8168b
[23:10] <flintser> rtl8111/8168b
[23:10] <flintser> sorry :)
[23:10] <Doomhammer> flintser: ?
[23:10] <WBF> Doomhammer: I have the same issue as you on my ARM pc. I tried and tried to get the RTL8xxx driver to work but nothing.
[23:10] <flintser> Doomhammer: i used click copying accidentally
[23:10] <Doomhammer> oh heh
[23:10] <agsel> how to change keyboard shortcuts?
[23:10] <Triups> iceroot, thats the weird thing...I reboot and you flip the coin.  When it loads up as rename3 it has to do the 60second timeout during booting
[23:10] <WBF> Doomhammer: mine is a 8192CU driver
[23:11] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: i understand that but 30 minutes to a hour is a long time, i am running a i7, quadcore with hyperthreading and 8gigs of ram, and its never taken longer than a minute
[23:11] <BluPhenix316> i tried update-initramfs -u -v and it gets to this line: Adding module /lib/modules/3.5.0-23-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_kms_helper.ko
[23:11] <BluPhenix316>  and just stalls there
[23:11] <flintser> Doomhammer: does it even recognize your card?
[23:11] <Triups> iceroot, the p33p* and rename* do not show up there
[23:12] <Triups> iceroot, Ill try manually entering them
[23:13] <iceroot> Triups: there should be something like SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="24:b6:fd:fc:97:5f", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"
[23:13] <Triups> iceroot, there is a bunch of them to match the nics.  but the nics p33p1, p33p2 do not show up there
[23:13] <iceroot> Triups: what should that be? vmware? xen?
[23:14] <iceroot> Triups: are you using something like that?
[23:14] <Doomhammer> flintser: yeah, it shows up in ifconfig, and networkmanager tries to get a dhcp lease
[23:14] <Triups> nope...I read thats how linux now names nics.  based on pci slot and port
[23:14] <Doomhammer> it "appears" to work, except i never get an ip address
[23:14] <Triups> iceroot, supposedly p33p1 means pci 33 port 1
[23:15] <iceroot> Triups: ah ok
[23:15] <flintser> Doomhammer: can you use static ip?
[23:15] <Doomhammer> flintser: i tried that, still doesn't work
[23:16] <Triups> iceroot, the problem comes that it doesn't always rename the nic properly to p33p2
[23:16] <Triups> iceroot, the file you mentioned does not mention anythign about these nics and sounds like it is auto-generated...has me a bit worried on how to rename the KERNEL parameter specifically
[23:17] <flintser> Doomhammer: so you can't get any connection? do you use a router or what?
[23:17] <iceroot> Triups: i would just create a new line and replace the mac address and a name you want for it
[23:17] <Doomhammer> flintser: uh, i'm at an office, i really don't know what they have going on
[23:18] <Doomhammer> flintser: i verified that plugging a different pc in with the same port/cable gets a dhcp lease just fine, though
[23:18] <Triups> iceroot, but the kernel parameter...what do I set that to?  the examples show "eth*" but I don't think this nic ever starts out as eth*
[23:19] <flintser> Doomhammer: problem might exist on the other end
[23:19] <iceroot> Triups: you can even put "foobar" in it
[23:19] <iceroot> Triups: its just a string
[23:19] <iceroot> Triups: which is related to the mac address
[23:19] <iceroot> Triups: imo
[23:19] <iceroot> Triups: so eth1 for example would be fine
[23:20] <flintser> check your gateway on the other computer and try ro ping that?
[23:20] <flintser> i mean check the gw and then plug ubuntu back in and try pinging
[23:22] <Triups> iceroot, I was thinking that string meant what the kernel was calling it and name is what you set it to....Ill try it out
[23:22] <Doomhammer> flintser: check the gateway in what way? other machines have an internet connection so the gateway is working apparently
[23:22] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: i found out what is causing update-initramfs to hang, but not sure how to fix it
[23:23] <iceroot> Triups: that string is telling the kernel how to name it
[23:23] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: update-initramfs hangs when doing modprobe --set-version=3.5.0-23-generic --ignore-install --quiet --show-depends i915
[23:23] <iceroot> Triups: so the name "eth0" comes from that file and the kernel is using that name then
[23:23] <iceroot> Triups: the kernel does not use eth0 before
[23:23] <iceroot> Triups: the kernel is asking udev what name should be used, so udev is generating that wil
[23:23] <iceroot> Triups: and you can call it "myfunnynic0" for example
[23:24] <flintser> Doomhammer: gateway ip address. if theyre windows 7 go to network and sharing center -> change adapter settings -> right click your connection -> status -> details
[23:24] <flintser> i mean the working computers
[23:24] <Doomhammer> flintser: my gateway is 10.10.10.1, and setting that statically doesn't seem to help anything
[23:25] <iceroot> !info linux-image-generic
[23:25] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: there is no kernek 3.5.0-23 in the ubuntu repos
[23:25] <iceroot> kernel
[23:25] <lucis> hey all, simple question. does anybody has a good analyze script for the auth.log file? . i would like to draw every host connection (failed or not) with the ip, and then run a whois on it.
[23:25] <lucis> have*
[23:25] <Triups> iceroot, I think udev might be th eone responsible for calling my nic p33p2 and rename3.  so i wonder if setting eth* will work at all...but a reboot will tell me
[23:25] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: really? i just got it today
[23:25] <flintser> if you can ping 10.10.10.1 on your ubuntu machine it means the problem is most likely at the other end
[23:26] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: i always do a sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it was in the repos i have
[23:26] <BluPhenix316> hmmm
[23:26] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: what is the output of "apt-cache policy linux-image-generic"
[23:26] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: upgrade is never installing a new kernel
[23:26] <flintser> you can try dhcpd -k at ubuntu terminal and see what it says
[23:26] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: just dist-upgrade is installing new kernels
[23:26] <BluPhenix316> linux-image-generic:
[23:26] <BluPhenix316>   Installed: 3.5.0.23.29
[23:26] <BluPhenix316>   Candidate: 3.5.0.23.29
[23:26] <BluPhenix316>   Version table:
[23:26] <BluPhenix316>  *** 3.5.0.23.29 0
[23:26] <FloodBot1> BluPhenix316: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: the lines after are interesting, please use pastebin
[23:28] <BluPhenix316> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1595129/
[23:28] <flintser> Doomhammer: or just dhcpd
[23:28] <Doomhammer> flintser: i don't have dhcpd - you mean dhclient?
[23:29] <IOmegaZ> when i try to to install ubuntu with ubuntu installer i get an error occurred list index out of range
[23:29] <flintser> oh sorry
[23:29] <flintser> Doomhammer: that
[23:30] <joey___> Does anybody know how to get GLSL 1.5 or higher working on Intel HD4000 on Ubuntu?
[23:30] <flintser> i must go now, bus comes and cant miss that :) sorry
[23:31] <BluPhenix316> do I have a bad kernel or something installed?
[23:31] <BluPhenix316> I was trying to keep up with all of this, but now this is going beyond my knowledge hehe
[23:31] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: no, everything fine, ubottu is just showing a wrong text
[23:32] <BluPhenix316> well i still can't figure out my update-initramfs problem
[23:32] <BluPhenix316> maybe i should reboot and then try again?
[23:32] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: dont reboot
[23:32] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: the newest kernel will probably not boot
[23:33] <BluPhenix316> if i do a sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and then apt-get autoremove will it remove the newly installed packages and return to where i was before?
[23:33] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: no
[23:33] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: but the kubuntu-desktop package is not the reason for the kernel-update
[23:33] <BluPhenix316> yeah but i've rebooted since the kernel update
[23:34] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: i would cancel the upgrade and run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" after that i would have a look if "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc" is holding any packagenames, if not i would reboot
[23:34] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: and when the reboot fails select an older kernel from the grub-menu and not the 3.5.0-23
[23:34] <BluPhenix316> and everything was working fine, that kernel update was earlier today
[23:38] <WBF> can someone help me? my 8192CU drivers aren't working.
[23:38] <WBF> can someone help me? *raises red flag*
[23:39] <BluPhenix316> dpkg --configure -a just tries to run update-initramfs again, and the output of the other command is initramfs-tools
[23:39] <BluPhenix316> it keeps hanging on: 21159 pts/0    S+     0:00 modprobe --set-version=3.5.0-23-generic --ignore-install --quiet --show-depends i915
[23:39] <BluPhenix316> but i've put i915 in the modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:39] <BluPhenix316> i don't have intel gfx card
[23:39] <BluPhenix316> i have a nvidia 660 GTX
[23:39] <dorohoro> hi there
[23:39] <WBF> hello dorohoro
[23:40] <stefanct> hi, anyone familiar with umountfs and fstab-decode around? i am hunting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/1103416
[23:40] <IOmegaZ> when i try to to install ubuntu with ubuntu installer i get an error occurred list index out of range
[23:43] <dorohoro> can i make mu Music folder(from home folder) to be simblic link to some other folder?
[23:44] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: adding i915 to blacklist.conf fixed it, and update-initramfs completed in just seconds
[23:44] <BluPhenix316> i'm in kde now
[23:44] <kunji> MacroMan_afn: This might be useful: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1199439
[23:44] <BluPhenix316> for some reason the i915 modules doesn't agree with my system
[23:45] <kunji> dorohoro: I don't see why not
[23:45] <PingIT> is there some way to turn of b-w-utmp files in ubuntu?
[23:45] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: hm strange i am using that module without problem here on 12.04
[23:45] <dorohoro> so how
[23:45] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: but good to hear you could fix it
[23:45] <dorohoro> without deleting
[23:45] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: i'm using 12.10
[23:45] <iceroot> BluPhenix316: ah ok
[23:45] <dorohoro> existing
[23:45] <mojtaba> Hi, I have ubuntu 12.10 and would like to install Nadia Cinnamon on it. Does anybody know what should I do? Is it possible?
[23:46] <k1l_> !mint | mojtaba
[23:47] <k1l_> mojtaba: that belongs to their support. so please ask the mint guys.
[23:50] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: i'm debating on going back to 12.04 though
[23:50] <BluPhenix316> iceroot: only reason i went with 12.10 is because this is a uefi system, and 12.10's installer had fixed a lot of issues 12.04 had with uefi
[23:50] <kunji> dorohoro: what is existing that you don't want to delete?
[23:50] <WBF> can someone help me? my 8192CU drivers aren't working. MORE DETAIL: It's a netgear that isn't working in ubuntu even with modprobe because modprobe comes up with an error on my custom linux box.
[23:50] <kunji> WBF: Custom linux box?  This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[23:50] <WBF> kunji:  it is running ubuntu
[23:50] <WBF> kunji: it is called custom because it's running on ARMHF
[23:50] <kunji> WBF: Ah, ok, sounded like you were doing linux from scratch or something
[23:51] <dorohoro> original folder Music from home folder
[23:51] <dorohoro> so icons stay same
[23:51] <dorohoro> etc
[23:52] <WBF> mojtaba: say sudo apt-get install cinnamon or sudo apt-get install  lxde for a lightweight desktop like mint :D
[23:52] <dorohoro> just to make him poin on some other folder
[23:52] <mojtaba> WBF: Thanks
[23:53] <kunji> dorohoro: oh, hmm I think the only difference between Music and other folders is the icon, I'm not sure how that icon is assigned.
[23:54] <dorohoro> can i somehow mount folder on folder or something like that
[23:54] <dorohoro> i did this once in windows wista when i had it
[23:55] <mojtaba> Why ubuntu is better than mint?
[23:57] <WBF> mojtaba: their kind of equal; as in they have most of the same packages. it's your choice but I am trying to guide you.
[23:57] <kunji> dorohoro: I think the icon might not be a property of the folder, that is, I think it is handled purely in the outside apps, like nautilus, so I think just deleting Music and creating a symlink should do what you want, but there is a small chance it won't.  Maybe just move Music, (mv Music MusicBackup) and then create the symlink, so you can delete the symlink and put back music if it doesn't work the way you hoped.
[23:58] <phoenixsampras> hellow!
[23:58] <dorohoro> ok th
[23:58] <dorohoro> i will try something
[23:59] <kunji> dorohoro: Or actually I can try it out, I'm not picky about the icon so it's fine if it breaks it for me and I can let you know