/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/02/01/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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yofel_morning08:47
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shadeslayerhi yofel08:53
phoenix_firebrdyofel: morning09:03
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: hi09:03
shadeslayerhey09:03
yofelhi09:04
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shadeslayeryofel: any ideas if cronjobs running in a schroot are persistent?09:31
shadeslayeractually, nvm09:34
yofel4.10.0 is done building for quantal in ninjas09:45
phoenix_firebrdnice09:50
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phoenix_firebrdyofel: did we finish before suse?09:51
yofelno idea, packages won't be public before the 6th anywa09:51
yofely09:51
phoenix_firebrdyofel: why not?09:51
yofelI don't particulary watch how fast the others are09:51
yofelphoenix_firebrd: kde 4.10.0 release is Feb. 6th09:52
yofelhttp://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.10_Release_Schedule09:52
phoenix_firebrdyofel: in that case can you put the news in planet kde before suse?09:52
yofelwe'll write the news when we're done. If that's before suse, good. If not not many will care09:53
phoenix_firebrdyofel: done means?09:53
yofeldone as in, packages published to the official PPA's and official KDE announcement out09:54
phoenix_firebrdyofel: can it be done before suse?09:55
yofelprobably? I have no idea when they do their release announcement09:55
phoenix_firebrdyofel: everytime i see they are the first one to break the news09:56
yofelwell, maybe they have someone that just sits there waiting for the kde announcement to publish theirs09:56
phoenix_firebrdyofel: It will be nice to see kubuntu do that09:56
yofelnot all of us are online all of the time09:57
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i can do that09:57
yofelwell, we've gotten a lot faster since we started scripting the packaging already09:57
phoenix_firebrdyofel: lets get some market share'09:57
phoenix_firebrdi like to hear "Kubuntu is the distro that releases the update first"09:58
* yofel would prever quality over speed, but we do have a few days left10:01
yofelanyway, we need Q/A first10:01
phoenix_firebrdyofel:  i am going to update now and test10:01
phoenix_firebrdfor quantal10:01
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phoenix_firebrdyofel: do you want me to test any sepcific app?10:03
phoenix_firebrd*specific10:03
yofelphoenix_firebrd: not really, general Q/A is needed really10:09
yofelwe should look up the list of bugs fixed for 4.10.0 too10:10
yofelbut I forgot what the bugzilla query for that is10:10
shadeslayermmm10:10
* yofel hits freenode around with a throut10:12
* shadeslayer rejoices 10:12
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phoenix_firebrdbrb need to restart11:08
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: want to do something?11:21
shadeslayerbtw I'm going to go ahead and upload precise as well11:22
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ya11:23
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i can test quantal stuff11:24
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: ok, so, we have daily builds of KDE Telepathy11:24
shadeslayernah, this is something new11:24
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds 11:24
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok11:24
shadeslayerlaunchpad allows us to pull git repos from projects.kde.org and make daily packages11:24
shadeslayerhttps://code.launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/telepathy-kde/ktp-desktop-applets11:25
shadeslayeris not packaged11:25
shadeslayeralot of the KDE telepathy code was moved around and this repo created11:25
shadeslayerso you get to package something new :)11:25
phoenix_firebrdok11:25
phoenix_firebrdnice11:25
phoenix_firebrdpull-lp-source ktp-desktop-applets raring will do?11:26
shadeslayerhave a go at it, look at the packaging branches here : https://code.launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde11:26
shadeslayerno11:26
shadeslayerbecause ktp-desktop-applets is new11:26
phoenix_firebrdbzr branch?11:26
shadeslayernope11:26
shadeslayernothing11:26
shadeslayerzilch11:26
phoenix_firebrddownload the tar?11:26
shadeslayerit's a brand new source11:26
phoenix_firebrdok11:26
shadeslayeryeah, download tar / clone git / whatever11:26
phoenix_firebrdi will make a deb11:26
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: thanks11:26
shadeslayernp11:27
shadeslayerhave a go at it, put up your packaging somewhere so I can have a look11:27
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: my ppa?11:28
shadeslayernah just push up a bzr branch11:28
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok11:28
shadeslayerwith the debian folder in it11:28
phoenix_firebrd:)11:28
shadeslayeruse packaging hints from ktp-presence-applet11:29
shadeslayerthat was dropped11:29
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok11:29
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is this a casual jor or a priority one?11:29
phoenix_firebrd*job11:29
shadeslayerwell ... not exactly priority11:29
shadeslayerwould be nice to have11:30
phoenix_firebrdok11:30
shadeslayeror I'll do it tomorrow11:30
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i will finish tonight11:30
phoenix_firebrdbefore tonight11:30
shadeslayerno hurries :)11:30
phoenix_firebrdok11:30
yofelshadeslayer: kde for precise? feel free to if there's space11:54
yofelshadeslayer: where to though?11:54
shadeslayeryofel: I've asked for more space11:54
yofelah11:54
shadeslayerin the meanwhile I'll prepare the packages11:54
shadeslayerhm, I think I'll just file a question11:54
yofelok, I'll switch the status page11:54
yofelswitched11:54
shadeslayeryofel: will 5 more GB's do?11:55
yofelyeah11:56
yofelshadeslayer: you'll have to copy a lot of stuff over from beta though before uploading11:56
shadeslayer:(11:56
yofelesp. the newer pkg-kde-tools11:56
shadeslayerhttps://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/22075311:58
shadeslayerwhat was that browser that had XREFER support?12:06
shadeslayerw3 somthing12:07
yofelw3m12:07
jussi!info w3m12:07
shadeslayerthx12:07
ubottuw3m (source: w3m): WWW browsable pager with excellent tables/frames support. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.3-8 (quantal), package size 1120 kB, installed size 2156 kB12:07
shadeslayerI wiped my server last night12:08
shadeslayerso stuff is missing12:08
jussishadeslayer: well done... :P12:08
shadeslayer;)12:08
yofelok, now to fix the version number handling in the backport script12:08
yofelshadeslayer: if you're backporting from raring a few packages will have messed up changelog entries ^12:09
yofellike 4 or 512:09
shadeslayeroh, I was going to backport from quantal12:09
shadeslayerisn't that how it should be?12:09
yofelah, that'll be fine then12:09
yofelwell, not really, but it won't matter currently I believe12:10
yofelactually, right now that's a better idea12:10
shadeslayer:D12:10
yofelquantal only has one hook anyway that's run for precise as well12:10
shadeslayerwhaaa12:12
shadeslayeryofel: were are them keys stored12:13
yofelwhat keys o.O?12:13
shadeslayerthe lp auth key12:13
yofelno idea, python-keyring on my server is utterly broken12:14
shadeslayerheh12:14
yofelgives json errors12:14
yofel(IIRC)12:14
shadeslayerah wel12:14
shadeslayerI'll do it again12:14
shadeslayerlynx was still installed 12:14
shadeslayerand stupid blinky cursor12:15
shadeslayercan't get rid of it12:15
jussihit insert? :P12:15
jussibtw, anyone know how to fix ruby crap when I accidentally did "sudo gems ...." which apparently breaks things...12:16
jussinot supposed to use sudo with gems...12:16
shadeslayermmm12:18
shadeslayeryofel: can I unlock the keyring for a longer duration of time12:18
yofelyou're asking the wrong guy12:19
shadeslayerheh12:19
shadeslayer*blink*12:19
shadeslayeryofel: 12:20
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/662474/12:20
yofelist that the whole trace?12:21
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/662480/12:21
shadeslayerjussi: insert doesn't remove blinky cursor :(12:22
yofelthe only thing I could think of is that %7E isn't correctly replaced12:22
yofelbut that shouldn't usually happen...12:22
shadeslayerhmm12:23
shadeslayerlemme check12:23
shadeslayerjust as I suspected12:23
shadeslayerno dpkg-source :P12:23
yofellol12:23
yofelwhat was it, apt-get install packaging-dev ?12:23
shadeslayerI just install ubuntu-dev-tools12:23
shadeslayerwe haz more space12:24
shadeslayeryofel: care to copy over binaries12:24
yofelcan do12:24
yofelnow let's see what we need...12:25
yofelneed to rebuild qextserialport because launchpad is being stupid, but otherwise we should be ready I think: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=20012:39
shadeslayerW: kalgebra source: missing-field-in-dep5-copyright copyright (paragraph at line 25)12:41
yofelshadeslayer: hard to say what to do with a file that has no copyright...12:44
shadeslayerlol12:44
yofelnot sure why that makes it BSD then though, would't that be public domain?12:45
yofel*wouldn't12:45
shadeslayerkde-runtime is kaput12:51
yofelhow so?12:51
shadeslayerI can't copy from konsole :(12:52
shadeslayerbecause of blinking12:52
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shadeslayerhm, know of any small keyring manager like kwallemanager?12:56
shadeslayeryofel: can you double check if https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+files/declarative-plasmoids_4.10-0ubuntu1~ppa1.dsc can me made arch all13:00
shadeslayerI don't see anything that would need arch any13:00
yofelshadeslayer: 'make' does nothing, so I guess it can13:13
shadeslayercool13:13
shadeslayerRiddell: I've uploaded declarative-plasmoids to the kubuntu active ppa13:15
shadeslayerneeds reviewing and uploading13:15
smartboyhwHello13:50
shadeslayeryofel: anything interesting in yesterdays sessions>13:59
yofelshadeslayer: I didn't really get to read anything yersterday14:05
shadeslayerheh14:05
shadeslayerI just browsed over the ubuntu image creation bits14:05
shadeslayerunfortunately that just touches on about 20-30% of how it's done14:05
BluesKajHI all14:05
smartboyhwHello14:06
yofelhi folks14:06
shadeslayerno talk about seeds, no talk about germinate, nothing about live-build config options :(14:06
yofelhow boring14:07
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is ktp-common-internals daily build latest available?14:08
shadeslayer:D14:08
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: yes14:08
shadeslayersee the PPA14:08
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: how can i use that with the pbuilder?14:08
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/daily-builds14:08
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: did you install the ninja hooks?14:08
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: no14:08
shadeslayerwell ... install them :P14:08
yofelphoenix_firebrd: you did14:09
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: can you guide me?14:09
yofelor at least I told you to14:09
phoenix_firebrdyofel: you did?14:09
yofelthe ~/.pbuilder-hooks stuff14:09
shadeslayeryofel: ^ can you help him? I have like a bazillion things going on :P14:09
phoenix_firebrdyofel: let me check14:09
smartboyhwyofel, help me too please:D14:09
yofelwhere's that stupid wiki page again...14:09
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i am inside the .pbuilder-hooks dir and i can see some files there14:11
smartboyhwphoenix_firebrd, you're better than me, I don't even have that dir14:12
phoenix_firebrdsmartboyhw: yofel helped me14:12
BluesKajis this some kind of competition ? 14:13
phoenix_firebrdsmartboyhw: truely i forgot how i got that folder14:13
smartboyhwBluesKaj, no. 14:13
phoenix_firebrdsmartboyhw: i saw that you have built a package for the upcoming release, congrats14:14
yofelok, now I have a minute...14:14
phoenix_firebrdyofel: help14:14
yofelphoenix_firebrd: why would you use that ppa in pbuilder?14:14
shadeslayeryofel: ktp-desktop-applets needs git ktp-common-internals14:14
smartboyhwphoenix_firebrd, thanks:D14:14
shadeslayerwhich is only available from that ppa14:15
phoenix_firebrdyofel: need a updated version of ktp-common-internals14:15
yofelshadeslayer, phoenix_firebrd: in *that* case, I just login with --save-after-login and edit the sources.list inside14:15
shadeslayerheh14:15
shadeslayeryofel: I find it easier to just do everything after it fails and then copy over the debian folder14:15
yofelwell, works too, I don't like fiddling with the build too much14:16
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so you want me to add the daily build repo to the pbuilder with the save after login option?14:16
* shadeslayer is still waiting for debsign14:16
yofelsmartboyhw: for the hooks: "bzr co lp:~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks ~/.pbuilder-hooks"14:17
yofelsmartboyhw: and add HOOKDIR="$HOME/.pbuilder-hooks" to your .pbuilderrc14:17
yofelthey make life a bit easier14:17
yofeldisable the apt hooks if you're low on bandwidth14:17
yofel(with chmod -x)14:18
yofelphoenix_firebrd: well, that's how I do it14:18
phoenix_firebrdyofel: do i have to create a base image for a new project?14:18
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yofelphoenix_firebrd: you could probably add a hook script that installs software-properties-common and runs add-apt-repository too14:19
yofelbut I just manage that by hand14:19
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i will go by your way14:19
yofelphoenix_firebrd: well, if you want to keep them apart yes, in which case you'll have to change the naming of the image14:20
yofelnot sure how to do that with pbuilder-dist14:20
yofelphoenix_firebrd: my pbuilderrc again: http://paste.kde.org/662588/ - the BASETGZ handling is the relevant part. My build command later looks like "sudo -E dist=r pro=ninja pbuilder build ..."14:24
yofelsmartboyhw: ^ that rc is a bit overkill complex, but maybe you'll find something useful14:25
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QuintasanDarkwing: I'm going to try send your tshirt, sorry it takes so long14:25
* Quintasan is dumb and forgetful14:25
smartboyhwyofel, oh ok14:25
phoenix_firebrdyofel: what is this  pro=ninja?14:26
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: I guess it's shot for profile14:27
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: ok14:27
* rgreening pokes Quintasan14:27
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: Note people round here usually have two pbuilders for each release14:27
Quintasanrgreening: Hi14:27
rgreeningsup dude14:27
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: oh14:27
shadeslayeryeah, the second one is called a PPA xD14:28
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: so when we are creating we can give a profile name? 14:28
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: We usually have one clean pbuilder and one with ninjas ppa enabled so you can testbuild latest kde there without going through the hassle of logging in pbuilder, making changes, building and reverting them again.14:28
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: you can though it's usually not needed14:29
Quintasansince with this pbuilderrc you can invoke stuff like14:29
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: how can i add a ppa to my current pbuilder14:29
Quintasansudo -E DIST=raring ARCH=i386 pbuilder create and you will get a basetgz file called raring-i386.tgz14:29
yofelphoenix_firebrd: http://paste.kde.org/662588/ line 68 handles that, if I say "dist=r pro=ninja" it would look for a raring-ninja-amd64-base.tgz and use that14:29
phoenix_firebrdyofel: ok i will try that'14:30
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: log into the pbuilder, add the ppa to sources.list and save the changes14:30
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: one would do it via pbuilder login --save-after-login14:30
yofelphoenix_firebrd: that is what /var/cache/pbuilder/ looks like here ^^ http://paste.kde.org/66261214:30
Quintasanrgreening: Nothing much, started uni and now I have some free time to I'm trying to sort out overdue things on my todo14:31
Quintasanlike sending Darkwing his tshirt14:31
rgreeningQuintasan: cool. I've been afk for quite a while. work took over my life there for a while14:31
rgreeninglooking to get back to packaging :)14:32
phoenix_firebrdyofel: can i clone my current profile?14:32
Quintasanhah, lot's of things to do this cycle14:32
phoenix_firebrdyofel: pbuilder's14:32
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: you can just copy the tgz file I believe14:32
yofelphoenix_firebrd: define clone, if you mean make a copy of the base image sure, just use cp14:32
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: yofel ok14:33
yofelprobably faster than making a competely new one14:33
yofelactually that'll be definitely much faster14:33
Quintasanyofel: You did tell him what those tgzs actually are?14:33
shadeslayer4.10 going up for precise14:33
yofelQuintasan: not really, one of the bazillion things I forgot14:33
shadeslayerall done14:33
* shadeslayer braces for 142 emails14:34
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: See, those tgz files are actually base systems tar gzipped (think the whole directory structure under /)14:34
jussishadeslayer: I can sign you up to a few spam lists if you want :P :P 14:34
shadeslayererm, no thx14:35
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yeah:D14:35
shadeslayerI'm subscribed to way too many email lists14:35
Quintasanjussi: I kind of think you would kill shadeslayer's connection14:35
jussihaha14:35
shadeslayerQuintasan: hah, nope, I have a 2 Mbps line now14:35
yofelQuintasan: it's not that bad these days14:35
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: pbuilder just unpacks those, chroots into them, copies the files to build there and starts the whole building procedure then14:35
shadeslayerso a sane amount of bandwidth14:35
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: thats right14:35
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: but there should be a proper way to do these things right?14:36
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: to do what?14:36
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: using a ppa inside pbuilder14:36
Quintasanyeah14:36
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: like pbuilder clone base base-ninja14:37
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: usually you want to have at least one clean (ie. NO changes) pbuilder for each release14:37
yofelphoenix_firebrd: there an OTHERMIRROR setting for that14:37
yofeloh, for that14:37
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: Not really, just copy the tgz14:37
Quintasanrename it appropriately and you're done14:37
yofelnot really, you just run pbuilder create a few times. Copying the tar is faster14:37
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: done copying and renaming14:37
Quintasansay I have precise.tgz and I want to have another pbuilder for ninja stuff so I copy it over to precise-ninja.tgz14:38
Quintasanphoenix_firebrd: By ninja we mean the stuff involved with packaging newest KDE releases14:38
phoenix_firebrdQuintasan: ok14:38
smartboyhwAnyone will be online on 20th Feb, 12:00 UTC?14:41
Quintasansmartboyhw: Presumably I will.14:43
Quintasansmartboyhw: LOOONG way to 20th :P14:43
smartboyhwlol14:43
shadeslayerQuintasan: how go the exams14:43
QuintasanI bombed logic but I have second try at it14:44
smartboyhwapplying for Ubuntu membership at that time...14:44
Quintasanshadeslayer: Physics exam is on 4th but I get C for just coming there xD14:44
shadeslayerheh14:44
Quintasanmaliit is done faster thanks to Laney14:46
QuintasanHe will sync it when it gets accepted in Debian and we need testers14:46
Quintasansmartboyhw: not that I worked with you but if you send any examples of your work my way I can say a good word or two there :P14:47
smartboyhwQuintasan, eh? I got 8 testimonials at my wiki already14:47
smartboyhwAnd it is very difficult to SHOW my work14:47
Quintasansmartboyhw: You're good to go then :P14:47
smartboyhwI mainly do Quality Assurance:P14:47
QuintasanWait.14:48
smartboyhw?14:48
* Quintasan grabs smartboyhw for Kubuntu14:48
smartboyhwlol14:48
QuintasanI don't think you are going anywhere my friend14:48
Quintasan:P14:48
smartboyhw!?14:48
QuintasanQA GET!14:48
smartboyhwQuintasan, you mean sudo apt-get install python-autopilot ??? (LOL)14:49
smartboyhwkajongg 4.10.0 failed in precise14:49
Quintasanimplying I know how to use and implying I have time to learn it14:49
smartboyhwDependency problems:P14:50
yofelsmartboyhw: the stuff on http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.0_precise.html will mostly auto-resolve itself when the packages get auto-retried14:57
smartboyhwyofel, yeah I know:D14:57
yofeloh14:57
yofelpykde14:57
yofelnot again14:57
smartboyhwyofel, where?14:58
* yofel wonders if he forgot something14:58
yofelsmartboyhw: kajongg14:58
yofeloh14:58
yofelI forgot soprano -.-14:58
yofelbrrr14:58
smartboyhw-.-14:58
yofelcopied14:59
smartboyhwyofel, kate failed really because of python-kde4 I think14:59
yofelthey're failing because pykde isn't installable with old soprano15:00
yofelthey'll need manual retries once soprano is published15:00
smartboyhwoK15:00
yofelphoenix_firebrd, smartboyhw: did anyone point you guys to the automation stuff yet? 15:02
yofelhttps://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+junk/kubuntu-automation15:02
yofelthat's the actual KDE SC packaging scripting15:03
smartboyhwyofel, nobody:P15:03
smartboyhwyofel, oh wow!:D15:03
* smartboyhw immediately pulls it15:03
phoenix_firebrdyofel: no15:03
yofelthat status page is generated by kubuntu-ppa-build-status15:03
smartboyhwYes sir15:05
yofelhm, how do I extract "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1" from "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1~foobar~bar" using bash15:05
yofelor rather "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1" from "package (4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1~foobar~bar) release; urgency=low"15:06
yofel${line##*(} will give "4:4.10.0~foo-0ubuntu1~foobar~bar) release; urgency=low", but then I'm stuck15:07
smartboyhwyofel, soprano should be successfully built15:11
yofelah yeah, it's published15:11
yofel(I copyied the binaries from the beta ppa)15:11
smartboyhwLOL15:12
yofel*copied15:12
yofelshadeslayer: something went wrong: kalzium: Dependency wait: libboost-python1.49-dev15:13
shadeslayermmm15:13
yofelwe do have -e 's/libboost-python1.49-dev/libboost-python1.48-dev/g' \15:14
shadeslayerah shoot15:14
shadeslayerI did not have the latest checkout of bzr15:14
shadeslayer:|15:14
yofel...15:14
shadeslayerwe should add it to the script15:15
shadeslayerbzr pull before doing anything15:15
yofelyeah15:15
yofelwant to fix it manually or regenerate with ppa2?15:15
shadeslayerjust regenerate with ppa2 :P15:16
yofellatter is probably easier depending on how much is missing15:16
shadeslayeryeah15:16
shadeslayerhm, I don't see an option to specify what number should be appended to ~ppa15:17
yofelwell, not supported >.>15:17
shadeslayerheh15:17
shadeslayeryofel: although15:17
shadeslayerwe could be clever15:18
shadeslayerand use -V 12.04.115:18
shadeslayer:P15:18
shadeslayersince 12.04.1 is approaching15:18
yofeloh right, you didn't use that15:18
shadeslayeryeah15:18
shadeslayerhuzzah15:18
yofelshadeslayer: er... it's 12.04.2 that's approaching btw15:18
phoenix_firebrdpbuilder warns about untrusted packages and displays option, but exits the build session15:18
yofelphoenix_firebrd: ah wait15:18
shadeslayeroh ...okay15:18
yofelphoenix_firebrd: ALLOWUNTRUSTED=yes15:19
phoenix_firebrdi have added the keys15:19
yofelif you have the keys that's weird15:19
phoenix_firebrdin pbuilderrc?15:19
yofelyep15:19
phoenix_firebrdok15:19
phoenix_firebrdktp-desktop-applets build success15:27
shadeslayerRiddell: there's a nexus team meeting in about 30 minutes15:27
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: awesome, throw the packaging up somewhere15:27
yofelshadeslayer: added a --build option, as in ~ppa$build15:27
yofeldefaults to 115:27
shadeslayerawesome15:27
shadeslayerI'm cleaning my nepomuk database :P15:27
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i haven't updated other stuff like copyright etc15:29
shadeslayerthat's fine for a first review15:29
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok15:29
shadeslayerhuh15:31
shadeslayeryofel: W: kde4libs source: binary-nmu-debian-revision-in-source 4:4.10.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.2~ppa115:31
yofelyeah, ignoreit15:32
shadeslayer:)15:32
shadeslayerjust mentioned it because I didn't see when using 12.0415:33
yofelit's not like we have binNMU's anyway15:33
yofeltrue, but I didn't bother looking the explenation up15:33
shadeslayerI think I read somewhere that it has 3 '.' lintian thinks it's a binNMU15:34
shadeslayer"or has a Debian revision containing three parts"15:34
yofelah15:34
yofellol, kdelibs is FTBFS because soprano was too old ^^15:35
shadeslayerheh15:35
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/kubuntu-packaging/ktp-desktop-applets15:36
shadeslayerempty?15:37
shadeslayerdid you add and then commit?15:37
yofeland push?15:37
shadeslayerwell .. I thought that would be implied :P15:37
phoenix_firebrdsorry15:37
phoenix_firebrdforgot to commit15:37
phoenix_firebrdcheck now15:39
smartboyhwGood bye.15:39
shadeslayeryeah15:40
shadeslayerso15:40
phoenix_firebrdunwanted stuff added15:40
shadeslayeryou seemed to have pushed the entire git repo15:40
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: did you read the ktp-presence-applet packaging?15:41
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ya why?15:41
shadeslayerbecause15:42
shadeslayerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/telepathy-kde/ktp-presence-applet-ubuntu/view/head:/debian/rules vs http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~murthy/kubuntu-packaging/ktp-desktop-applets/view/head:/debian/rules15:42
shadeslayerhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~murthy/kubuntu-packaging/ktp-desktop-applets/view/head:/debian/control < please add a description15:42
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shadeslayeryou also have some README.* cruft15:43
shadeslayerempty file : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~murthy/kubuntu-packaging/ktp-desktop-applets/view/head:/debian/docs15:43
phoenix_firebrdremoved the git stuff and 2 other unwanted files15:44
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phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: removed the docs, any other unwanted stuff?15:48
shadeslayerI'll have a look in a minute15:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok i will push it15:50
shadeslayerpush it where?15:50
yofelphoenix_firebrd: don't forget the dh options in rules15:53
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: in my branch15:54
shadeslayerack15:54
phoenix_firebrdyofel: dh options?15:54
yofelsee the other rules shadeslayer pointed to15:54
shadeslayerwill have a look once I get steam to work :P15:54
yofelshadeslayer: raring?15:54
shadeslayeryeah15:54
shadeslayerI can't remember my login details xD15:54
yofelSTEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam15:55
yofeloh15:55
shadeslayeryeah15:55
yofelthat's another problem then :P15:55
shadeslayerhttps://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/113915:55
phoenix_firebrdyofel: its a work in progress15:56
yofelsure15:56
phoenix_firebrdyofel: shadeslayer want to review it initially 15:56
yofelI just wanted to remind you as it seemed like you forgot it15:57
shadeslayerhmm15:58
shadeslayerSNA seems slightly jerky15:58
phoenix_firebrdyofel: the current version in the beta ppa of libktpcommoninternalsprivate-dev is 0.5.2, but it builds with v0.5.2+ in the ninjas ppa, so should i have to put the version requirent as >0.5.2  ?15:58
dragotinhi, I am the upstream maintainer of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/kraft15:59
dragotinand I wonder if there is a way to have that same package for Ubuntu 12.10 and maybe 12.0415:59
dragotinits rather new in launchpad16:00
phoenix_firebrdyofel: 0.5.2 < 0.5.2+git20130201+r281-7~raring1   ?16:00
yofelphoenix_firebrd: right16:02
yofeldragotin: you mean the raring package (0.50) for the other 2 releases?16:02
dragotinyofel: yes16:02
phoenix_firebrdyofel: so "libktpcommoninternalsprivate-dev (> 0.5.2)" right?16:02
dragotinyofel: people ask me where they can install kraft from16:03
dragotinyofel: and I wonder if there is another way than doing a ppa16:03
yofelphoenix_firebrd: >>, > is deprecated (I just need to remember where that's documented)16:03
yofeldragotin: there is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports16:03
yofelI need to go, someone else can probably help you with filing a backport request16:05
* yofel makes his way home16:05
shadeslayerdragotin: would you be willing to QA the packages?16:09
dragotinshadeslayer: sure16:09
shadeslayerfor both 12.04 and 12.1016:09
shadeslayeralright, give me a couple of minutes16:09
dragotinshadeslayer: ah, you pushed it to raring as well, right?16:11
shadeslayeryep16:11
phoenix_firebrdwhose name i should put in debian/copyright, Files: debian/* . The standard version that i am using is 3.9.3 16:11
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: yours16:11
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: :)16:11
dragotinshadeslayer: thanks btw :-)16:12
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: according to 3.9.3 this is not required right?16:12
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: not required?16:12
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i mean the standars16:12
shadeslayerdragotin: np, as long as someone QA's the package I can backport it16:12
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: clause 12.5 of 3.9.3 says that "debian/copyright is no longer required to list the Debian maintainers involved in the creation of the package (although note that the requirement to list copyright information is unchanged)."16:14
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: is there a bot to check this from here?16:14
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: sounds fine 16:16
shadeslayeryou can skip the copyright for debian/*16:17
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok16:17
shadeslayerdragotin: uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra16:20
dragotinshadeslayer: great, thanks!16:20
shadeslayerwill take a while to build and be available16:21
shadeslayersince I just spammed the buildd's with KDE16:21
shadeslayerand I'll be spamming them *again*16:21
shadeslayersteam, y u no send verification code :(16:23
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: are you sure you pushed16:24
shadeslayeroh 16:24
shadeslayernvm16:25
phoenix_firebrdok16:25
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: the src folder contains files with gpl2+ and lgpl with 2 diff authors how can i put that in the copyright file?16:26
shadeslayerread up on the dep5 format16:26
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: should i have to mention by each file?16:26
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok16:26
shadeslayerhttp://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/16:26
shadeslayerhah, my password was right, my login name was wrong16:31
ricktimmisStruggling with apt-get sources, Riddell: set me a task to write a script to grab a packages dependancy list, and then get all the sources and do a uscan. The problem is that apt-get source is returning some sources, but also GIt, Svn, Bzr repos for a bunch of others. Also uscan doesn't seem to produce anything if a package file doesn't have a Watch file. I think I might be drowning on this one16:42
shadeslayerricktimmis: break it down into small steps16:43
shadeslayerthat's what I've personally discovered when automating things with bash16:43
shadeslayeryofel: btw any ideas what STEAM_RUNTIME is?16:44
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: awake?16:56
shadeslayerbarely16:56
shadeslayerI'll go to sleep as soon as debsign is done16:57
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: the copyright file for ktp-desktop-applets http://paste.kde.org/663116/ the source field has to be updated yet16:57
shadeslayerline 5?16:58
shadeslayerand you can combine 2 authors16:58
shadeslayerso you can do: Files: contact/*16:59
shadeslayerCopyright: Year1 Author1 <Email1>16:59
shadeslayer         Year2 Author2 <Email2>16:59
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: line 5 is exactly present in the ktp-presence-applet and i will make the contact licenses field merges17:00
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: when i am merging like what you said what should i put in the license field17:02
shadeslayeractually17:02
shadeslayermerge by license17:02
shadeslayerso all of the GPL-2+ code licensing should go together17:02
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: so the files field comma seperated?17:03
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: list?17:03
shadeslayerlist17:03
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok17:03
shadeslayerso Files : foo/*17:03
shadeslayerbar/*17:03
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phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/663134/17:07
shadeslayerclose, not there yet17:07
shadeslayerthe 2  contact/* will represent the same set of files17:08
shadeslayerso you need to explicitly list the files17:08
shadeslayerso you could do : contact/foo.*17:08
shadeslayerand contact/bar.*17:08
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok17:08
apacheloggereh17:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: ?17:11
apacheloggerRiddell: can we put AG Alex on moderation until he learns to selectively quote17:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: he's probably at FOSDEM17:11
apacheloggerah, getting wasted17:11
apacheloggerstupid fosdem17:12
shadeslayerbut I agree17:12
shadeslayerokay, kde sc 4.10 for precise take 217:12
apacheloggeroh, he also sent the same reply three times17:13
apacheloggerOo17:13
apacheloggeryeah, so that makes me even more unwilling to read the bikeshed17:13
shadeslayerheh yeah17:13
apachelogger> because I'm not a developer and I can't help with it17:14
apacheloggerthat's fun though17:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: people converted the thread into a bikeshed :|17:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: sorry I cannot read, please call me on skype and tell me17:14
shadeslayerheh17:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: nono, it was wa bikeshed to begin with17:14
apacheloggerin fact all thraeds except for Riddell's tablet request is a bikeshed right now17:15
shadeslayer0.o17:15
shadeslayerdefine 'all'17:15
apacheloggerhow to identify a bikeshed: everyone has ever so great ideas and nothing happens17:15
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/663152/17:16
shadeslayerthe difference being I'll actually implement them17:16
shadeslayeror atleast try to17:17
shadeslayerwhat17:17
phoenix_firebrdthats the dir contents17:17
shadeslayerand?17:17
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: do you want me to list individual files?17:17
shadeslayerlol, oxygen icons uploading at 100 Mbps17:18
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: throught your isp?17:18
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: kind of, you can conver both contact-wrapper.h and contact-wrapper.cpp with contact-wrapper.*17:18
shadeslayerphoenix_firebrd: heh no17:18
shadeslayerrinse and repeat for files belonging to a certain license17:19
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: that i can do, even then i have to list the 4 files17:19
shadeslayerwhich 4 files?17:19
shadeslayerthe qml ones?17:19
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i mean 5 , the 5 cpps17:20
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer:  1.*, 2.* ... 5.*17:20
shadeslayererm, like I said, you can reduce it to half17:20
shadeslayerbut yes17:20
shadeslayeryou will have to do that17:20
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok17:20
apacheloggershadeslayer: I wouldn't know what the current ideas are as the your thread went OT like 3 times or something17:21
shadeslayerheh17:21
shadeslayerI didn't bother replying to the OT ideas17:21
apacheloggerso if the latest idea is to put the installer in the favorites you can just as well make firefox the default17:21
shadeslayeryep17:21
apacheloggerbecause that is basically saying "if you don't like our excellent kde sofwtare, here's another thing"17:22
shadeslayerthe excellent kde software you talk about isn't so excellent when browsing sites17:22
apacheloggerin particular the reason we did not put it there to begin with and why we did not make it a generic browser installer is because we simply wanted people who already know firefox as a brand toget easy access to it17:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: yeah, so change to firefox :P17:23
shadeslayernot enough visibility17:23
shadeslayeratleast imho17:23
shadeslayerapachelogger: would you expect people to search for more stuff, or just go to firefox.org since that's what they're accustomed to17:24
shadeslayerand when they land on ff.org ... surprise surprise, no binaries17:24
yofelmake the package manager more visible, you can find everyone there17:24
yofelback when it was put under "computer" I wanted to file a bug because I didn't see it17:25
yofelnow *I* know it's there17:25
yofels/everyone/everything/17:25
kubotuyofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"17:25
yofeltoo much coffee17:25
shadeslayerIt took me 3 months to find Quassel17:25
shadeslayerand then another 3 months after that I was told about krunner17:25
apacheloggerregular folks look at the menu17:26
apachelogger...searching for games :P17:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: if the ML is any indication to go by, regular people now scare the hell out of me17:28
yofelregular users always demand something, get used to it17:29
apacheloggerregular people do not join mailing lists17:29
yofelgood point17:29
shadeslayerthank god17:29
* shadeslayer finds the bit about having 2 panels hilarious17:29
apacheloggerwhat yofel called regular users there is the omgworldwillendcomputerisnotworkingright community17:29
apacheloggerthe rest of the world knows that computers are shit and deal with it :P17:29
shadeslayerlol17:30
apacheloggershadeslayer: Change in AptUrl-Kde to not depend on software-properties-kde17:35
apacheloggerwhat do we think about that?17:35
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yofelas long as it still works after that +1 for that change17:35
apacheloggeralthough IIRC we decided to kill apturl or osmethign17:35
shadeslayeryeah17:35
apacheloggerwhere's JT17:36
apacheloggerhe will know17:36
shadeslayerI have no idea why apturl still survives when we don't use it at all 17:36
apacheloggerwell17:36
apacheloggerubuntu uses it or something :P17:36
apacheloggerplus a lot of support sites do17:36
apacheloggere.g.I know the german ubuntu wiki is using apturls to some extend17:37
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/663158/17:37
shadeslayermake sure everything is lintian clean, push to bzr, I'll have a look on Monday :)17:38
davmor2shadeslayer: is it not the thing that triggers if you goto apps.ubuntu.com to share an app with someone?17:38
shadeslayeris it?17:39
shadeslayerI have no idea17:39
apacheloggerI am reaosonable certain it is17:39
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ok17:39
shadeslayerit's just that Kubuntu doesn't use it anywhere17:39
apacheloggerno clue if that works on kubuntu though17:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: it's not something we'd want to use anyway17:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: maybe if you have extras.ubuntu.com enabled?17:39
apacheloggerit's a community thing17:39
davmor2shadeslayer: well now you know one place it can17:39
shadeslayer:)17:40
shadeslayerso we can't kill it with fire then17:40
yofeluse the fire to kill python217:41
shadeslayernah, python2 is not vulnerable to fire17:41
yofels/fire/napalm/17:41
kubotuyofel meant: "use the napalm to kill python2"17:41
shadeslayerI'm going to use javascript to kill python217:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: we can17:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: oh?17:43
apacheloggershadeslayer: I think the idea was to move its functionality to muon17:43
shadeslayerah17:44
shadeslayerso ... blocking on JT then17:44
apacheloggerand ubuntusoftwarething respectively17:44
apacheloggershadeslayer: well, at least I think that is what we concluded17:44
shadeslayerbtw did jockey get deprecated in ubuntu yet?17:44
shadeslayeror is that still WIP and will land next cycle?17:44
phoenix_firebrdtime17:45
phoenix_firebrd~time17:45
kubotuAsia - Kolkata - Fri Feb 01 23:15 IST17:45
shadeslayerwow17:46
shadeslayerbugs.webkit.org has a patch sanity bot17:47
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: i have pushed the copyright file in my branch after checking with lintian 17:47
shadeslayerawesome17:47
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer:  ty17:48
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: anything else for today?17:48
shadeslayernot really :)17:49
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: I have learned some nice stuff today17:49
shadeslayer:)17:50
phoenix_firebrdshadeslayer: ty, good night17:51
shadeslayernight :)17:51
shadeslayernight everyone18:00
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yofelhm...21:15
* yofel wonders if he messed the kde-runtime hook up...21:16
yofelah no, shadeslayer didn't upload the new kde-runtime for some reason o.O21:18
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